* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES [00:00:01] AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS JOY MCGEE AND I AM THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT THREE ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF SAN ANTONIO, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. I'D LIKE TO DO A [Roll Call] ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT SUMMER GRADE HOUSE, DISTRICT ONE , DISTRICT FOUR, ANNIE GIBBONS, DISTRICT NINE, JOHN BUSTAMONTE, DISTRICT FIVE, FRANCINE ROMERO, DISTRICT EIGHT, GAIL MCDANIEL, MAYOR ROB SIPES, DISTRICT SEVEN. UM, IS THERE A QUORUM PRESENT? WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY. THANK YOU. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALL ALLEGIANCE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INVISIBLE. PRIOR TO OUR MEETING BEGINNING, UM, STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE. SO BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THE REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING. YOU WILL BE CALLED IN ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU WILL HEAR THIS WHEN THERE ARE 30 SECONDS LEFT, YOU WILL HEAR ANOTHER BEEP AND WE WILL INFORM YOU THAT YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT, ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, WE WILL, UM, PROCEED NOW WITH THE, UM, HEARING. UM, IF SOMEONE COULD PLEASE, UM, GO OVER, UM, ANY CASES THAT HAVE BEEN POSTPONED, WITHDRAWN, OR PULLED. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, ITEM NUMBER ONE HAS BEEN POSTPONED TODAY. THIS IS CASE ENDING 1 6 1 AT 1 3 8 HERMITAGE COURT. THIS CASE WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. THANK YOU. ALSO, ITEM NUMBER 12 WILL BE ON A COMBINED HEARING TWO AGENDA, UH, FOR A RECUSAL AND THE FOLLOWING ITEMS HAVE BEEN PULLED DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL ITEM NUMBER THREE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, ITEM NUMBER 10, AND ITEM NUMBER 11 AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 12 WILL BE ON A SECOND COMBINED HEARING FOR A RECUSAL. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO, UM, THE FIRST PART OF OUR COMBINED HEARING, PLEASE. ALSO, WE ARE PULLING DOWN ITEM NUMBER 15 TO INDIVIDUAL. ALL RIGHT, THESE ARE THE [Items 6, 8, 9, 13, 14 & 17] ITEMS FOR COMBINED HEARING. ONE. ITEM NUMBER SIX TO REZONE FROM R FIVE M L O D THREE, MLR ONE TO C ONE M L O D THREE ML R ONE. LOCATED AT 2036 SOUTH WW WHITE ROAD. [00:05:01] THERE WERE 20 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM COMANCHE COMMUNITY OR JUPE MANOR. NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, THERE ZONE FROM C THREE NA, M L O D TWO A H O D TO C TWO M O D TWO A H O D LOCATED AT 75 76 COLLIBRA ROAD. THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM PIPER'S MEADOW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER NINE, TO REZONE FROM MF 33 TO C TWO LOCATED AT ONE 15 NALINE AVENUE. ALL OVERLAYS WILL REMAIN THE SAME ON THIS ITEM, 18 NOTICES WERE MAILED, ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM MANKEY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. NUMBER 13, TO REZONE FROM R SIX AND CD FIVE A H O D TO R SIX CD AND CD FIVE A H O D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AT 8 27 WEST HOLLYWOOD AVENUE. THERE WERE 35 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION AND BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 14 TO REZONE FROM C THREE AND C THREE, GC TWO TO MF 25 AND MF 25 GC TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED IN THE 1700 BLOCK OF NORTH ELLISON DRIVE, THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 17, TO REZONE FROM R THREE CD, A H O D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND C TWO AND A A H O D TO I D Z ONE A H O D WITH THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT NINE 10, AND NINE 18 SOUTH PINE STREET. THERE WERE 34 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE THAT SIGNED IN TO SPEAK IN FAVOR FOR ITEM NUMBER 13. OKAY. UM, SO FOR ITEM 13, UM, WEST HOLLYWOOD, UM, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, YOU CAN, UM, CALL THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. MARK SPIELMAN AND LUCY ELLER, MARK SPIELMAN, 900 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE. UH, BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UH, DEAR DISTRICT ONE ZONING COMMISSIONER, SUMMER GREATHOUSE BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS VOTED TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR R SIX Z D N C D FIVE A H O D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AT 8 27 WEST HOLLYWOOD. THE APPLICANT, MR. RICHARD PEACOCK, HAS WORKED WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THROUGH THE LONG PROCESS OF A RENOVATION OF CHRIS MAD'S RESTAURANT. WE HAVE APPRECIATED HIS COOPERATION IN MOVING THE RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY AT 8 31 WEST HOLLYWOOD INSTEAD OF DEMOLISHING IT AND HIS APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE OF THE PROPERTY OF 8 27 HOLLYWOOD INSTEAD OF, UH, UH, OFFICE DESIGNATION. IT HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND WE CONGRATULATE MR. PEACOCK AS HE COMPLETES HIS PROJECT. SINCERELY, BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS LUCY, ER, I'M A MEMBER OF BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I COULDN'T FIND MY LETTER, SO I DECIDED TO COME IN PERSON. , I AM FULL SUPPORT. MR. RICHARD C**K HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS HELP. I I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THE TRACKS WHERE THEY DELIVER THE HAMBURG STATE, AND IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE. AND MY MESSAGE IS VERY SHORT. I DON'T THREE MINUTES. I HAVE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 45 YEARS. STAY ADDRESS, SAME PHONE NUMBER, SAME NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M IN FULL SUPPORT AS FAR AS IT'S INVOLVED CHILDREN. THIS IS THE REASON I'M HERE 'CAUSE I WORK WITH CHILDREN IN THE STREETS. AND I'M HERE AGAIN TO REPEAT WHAT MR. MARK HAS ALREADY MENTIONED, [00:10:01] AND LORD, TOGETHER, TOGETHER WE CAN SUCCEED. AND THIS IS WHY I AM HERE TO GIVE FULL SUPPORT AGAIN TO THE REZONING CHANGES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND YOU HAVE A BLESSED DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, THE, UM, CASES HAVE BEEN HEARD. IS THERE A MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IN REFERENCE TO CASE ITEM NUMBERS 6 8 9 13, 14, AND 17. BE APPROVED. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HEAD? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE FIVE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH. YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. MADAM CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THE NEXT, UM, COMBINED HEARING ITEM, PLEASE. UM, FOR THE RECORD, LET IT SHOW THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS, UH, LEAVING THE ROOM, UM, DUE TO RECUSAL. ITEM NUMBER 12 [12. 19-6418 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700165 (Council District 8): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3NA MLOD-1 MLR-2" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District to "C-2 MLOD-1 MLR-2" Commercial Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District on Lot 1A and Lot 128, NCB 14890, located in the 5800 Block of UTSA Boulevard. Staff recommends Approval. (Mirko Maravi, Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] IS ON COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE NA TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED IN THE 5,800 BLOCK OF U T S A BOULEVARD. THERE WERE 12 NOTICES MAILED THERE. NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MADAM CHAIR. UM, IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE TO RECOMMEND? OOPS. THE MATTER . ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. YOU'RE OKAY. MOTION THEN. OKAY. I'LL JUST ELBOW MY WAY IN. UH, I I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER 12. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. UH, ROLL CALL. CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER HEAD? YES. MADAM CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. UM, IN LIGHT OF, UH, THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUAL HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UM, FOR OUR, UM, INDIVIDUAL HEARING, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UM, THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, TO BE, UH, UM, ADJUSTED TO TWO MINUTES PER, UH, SPEAKER MICHAEL PEPE, PLANNER DEVELOPMENT [11. 19-6471 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700164 (Council District 8): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MSAO-1 MLOD-1 MLR-1" Residential Single-Family Camp Bullis Military Sound Attenuation Overlay Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District to "MF-18 MSAO-1 MLOD-1 MLR-1" Limited Density Multi-Family Camp Bullis Military Sound Attenuation Overlay Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District on 18.66 acres out of NCB 18333, located at 7580 Luskey Boulevard. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2019-11600044) (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@SanAntonio.gov, Development Services Department)] SERVICES, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 11, LOCATED AT 7 5 8 0. LUKI IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM R SIX TO MF 1822. NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. NONE WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR. TWO WERE RETURNED IN OPPOSITION. FRIENDS OF SAN ANTONIO NATURAL AREAS WAS NOTIFIED BUT HAS NOT RESPONDED. STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN IONS TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ROB KILLEN, 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. I'M ALSO JOINED, UH, TODAY BY DAVID PARKERSON, WHO IS THE DEVELOPER. AND I'LL, UH, ASK DAVID TO COME UP. I'LL SAY A FEW BRIEF WORDS ABOUT THE ZONING, ASK DAVID REALLY TO TALK ABOUT THE SITE PLAN. UH, I WANNA THANK STAFF FOR THEIR REVIEW OF THIS AND, UH, APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR INDULGENCE. I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW FOLKS WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITY INTEREST AND WE'VE GOT A, A BRIEF PRESENTATION. AND SO THE PROPERTY IS, UH, NORTH CAMP OLIS, FRONTON BABCOCK, AND IS, UH, WEST OF IH 10. GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHERE IT'S AT. COMING IN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, YOU CAN SEE HERMAN ROAD, UH, LUKI AND BABCOCK, IF YOU KNOW THAT AREA. AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER IN, UH, SHOWING THE PROPERTY. SO WE HAVE 43 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED, UH, [00:15:01] SINGLE FAMILY, R SIX. NOW THE DENSITY FOR R SIX WILL ALLOW FOR UP TO 301 HOUSES TO BE BUILT BASED ON THIS ACREAGE. ALL OF THIS HAS GOT A LOT OF TOPA, SO THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD ACTUALLY BUILD 300 HOUSES. YOU GOT STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, DRAINAGE, AND THEN JUST SOME STEEP HILLS. AND SO YOU COULD PROBABLY REALISTICALLY BUILD A MAX OF 200 HOUSES HERE. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE GENERALLY, UH, LAID OUT WITH HOUSES. THIS IS, THERE WE GO. UH, USING A LASER FORM. THIS IS THE EXISTING, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR. THIS IS CALLED THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE. THIS AREA OVER HERE, THIS IS WHAT COULD BE DEVELOPED AS CURRENTLY ZONED IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, AS YOU SAW IN THE ARROW. BUT THIS OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE IS EXISTING. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS, WE GOT SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, UH, COMMERCIAL ZONING, SOME MULTI-FAMILY ZONING. SO YOU'VE GOT A MIXED MIXTURE OF ZONING DISTRICTS ALREADY OUT HERE. SO, UH, WE THOUGHT THE ZONING WAS APPROPRIATE. UH, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, MF 18, WHICH IS THE LEAST INTENSE MULTI-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT, AS YOU ALL KNOW. UH, WE WANNA DEVELOP, UH, 300 UNITS. SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S OVER 40 ACRES. WE'RE ONLY GONNA DEVELOP 18, WHICH MEANS OVER 24 ACRES WOULD BE LEFT UNDEVELOPED. WE'D PUT IN A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. IF THE ZONING IS APPROVED, OF COURSE WE'D PUT IN A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WHICH MEANS THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD REMAIN UNDEVELOPED. SO THIS IS HOW THE SITE, UH, LAYS OUT. THIS IS, YEAH, YOU'VE GOT BABCOCK DOWN HERE, BABCOCK AND LUKI KIND OF COMING IN HERE. THIS IS, UH, KIND OF GOING UP THE HILL AND YOU'LL SEE A SUPERIMPOSED AREA IN A SECOND. UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT HERE. WHAT YOU'LL SEE OVER HERE IN, UH, DAVID, WHEN HE GETS UP, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS NOT DEVELOPED YET. THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT THIS IS WITHIN THE PROPERTY AREA. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, THE BUILDINGS WOULD LAY OUT ON THE SITE. SO THIS AREA OF THE SOUTH, RIGHT HERE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, THIS WOULD ALL BE IN CONSERVATION EASEMENT, AS WOULD THIS AREA. IN ADDITION TO THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS HERE AND HERE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TREES AND LANDSCAPING AND GREEN SPACE MIXED IN AMONG THE BUILDINGS. SO IT'S ACTUALLY SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE 24 ACRES OF JUST THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT. IN TERMS OF OVERALL GREEN SPACE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALWAYS COMES UP WITH MULTIFAMILY, I THINK ALL THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT, UH, A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T INTUITIVELY GET THAT. AND THAT IS THAT MULTIFAMILY HAS A LOWER TRAFFIC IMPACT PER UNIT THAN, UH, SINGLE FAMILY. THIS GOES TO SHOW YOU IF 200 HOUSES WERE BUILT OUT THERE, YOU HAVE ABOUT NEARLY 1900 DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS AS OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED APARTMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT 1600, UH, DAILY TRIPS. SO IT'S ACTUALLY A REDUCTION OF POTENTIAL TRAFFIC. UH, OPEN SPACE, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT. UH, THIS PROJECT WILL BE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH BOTH THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE, THE BOTH MOST CURRENT VERSIONS OF THOSE ORDINANCE. SO WE'RE DOING THAT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE ALREADY ARE DOING WITH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT. AGAIN, THIS IS HOW IT LAYS OUT, UH, A LOT OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. SO WE'VE BEEN ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY. UH, FIRST MEETING WAS WITH THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE BOARD ON JUNE 17TH, THEN A GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON JULY 22ND, AND THEN ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON AUGUST 8TH. THE MEETING ON AUGUST 8TH WAS PARTICULARLY, UH, WELL ATTENDED. AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WITH ALL OF THIS ENGAGEMENT, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND THAT'S HOW THE SITE PLAN HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME. SO DAVID, WHO'S THE DEVELOPER, AND HE IS ALSO AN ENGINEER, HE'S BEST POSITIONED TO EXPLAIN THE VARIOUS ITERATIONS OF DAVID. DAVID'S JUST GONNA TAKE A FEW SECONDS, JUST TALK ABOUT THE ITERATIONS OF SITE PLAN. I MIGHT QUEUE IT UP FOR YOU. YEAH, THANKS. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAD STARTED OUT WITH, UH, THE SITE PLAN YOU SEE UP, UH, ON THE SCREEN. AND THAT ONE, UM, WAS A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE SINGLE FAMILY. THIS WAS FOR THE FIRST MEETING THAT WE HAD HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE GOT SOME VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON SOME IDEAS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY IN BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE SINGLE FAMILY THERE TO, UH, ACT AS ADDITIONAL BUFFER FROM THAT MEETING. SO WE CAME UP WITH A SECONDARY SITE PLAN, UM, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE. UH, SO THIS WAS THE NEXT ITERATION, CREATING SOME SINGLE FAMILY LOTS IN BETWEEN WHICH THIS, THESE TWO ROADS GO UP THE HILL AND CONVERGE UP A HILL. SO THESE LOTS ARE ALSO UP THE HILL, UH, A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE, THE EXISTING HOMES HERE, WHICH CREATES A, A VISUAL BUFFER TO THE FUTURE BUILDINGS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY. MOST OF THIS SITE GOES DOWNHILL THIS DIRECTION. SO THE THREE THAT ARE CLOSEST TO THE SINGLE FAMILY WOULD BE THE, THE HIGHER ONES. AND THEY ARE AT A LEVEL COMMENSURATE WITH THIS ENTIRE AREA. BUT THESE HOMES HELP TO BLOCK FUTURE VIEWS, UM, WHICH WAS A GOOD IDEA TO ADD TO THIS SECOND ITERATION. UM, THE NEXT ITERATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING, UH, [00:20:01] WAS TO ACTUALLY INCREASE, UH, SETBACKS A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE DID WHAT WE COULD TO GET THROUGH THIS GREEN SPACE HERE. UH, AND ACTUALLY REMOVED ONE BUILDING AND PUSHED THE NEXT ONE DOWN THE FURTHER DOWN THE HILL. UH, FOR THE VIEWS, UH, FOR THESE EXISTING HOMES HERE, THERE'S A, A GREEN SPACE DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOW RIGHT HERE. SO WE INCREASED THIS BY TWICE THE, UH, TO 300 FEET. UH, THIS ONE IS APPROXIMATELY TWO 70 FROM THE, FROM THE NEAREST EXISTING HOME. AND, UH, THE REST OF COURSE GO DOWN THE HILL. THE PURPOSE OF OF, UH, TYING IN DOWN HERE WAS AN INDEPENDENT ACCESS SO THAT THE FUTURE MULTIFAMILY DID NOT TRAVEL THROUGH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH WE THOUGHT WAS A GOOD PLANNING IDEA. UH, THE, THE, UH, THE STRANGE LAYOUT OF THE ZONING HERE IS BECAUSE WE REALLY TRIED TO MAX OUT WHAT WENT INTO THE GREEN SPACES RATHER THAN JUST KIND OF CREATING A BIG BOX OF MULTI-FAMILY ZONED AREA. THAT WAY IT'S, UH, EASILY MORE EASILY RESTRICTED FOR FUTURE, UH, FOR THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. THE INTENTION DOWN IN BABCOCK WAS A, UH, LEFT HAND TURN LANE AND A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE, SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY DOWN THE STREET ON BABCOCK. THAT IS ABOUT 2000 FEET AWAY. UH, OF COURSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO WIDEN THE ROAD SOMEWHAT AND THEN WE'LL LANDSCAPE THE ENTRY THERE. UH, WE, AS WE SAW ON THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE THINK THAT, UH, WITH AN ADDED INTERSECTION HERE, IT WILL ACTUALLY CALM SOME OF THE TRAFFIC AS FOLKS GET USED TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S TURN LANES COMING JUST AS THEY DO WITH THE EXISTING, UH, MULTI-FAMILY AROUND IT. SO ELSE WE HAVE, UH, THE, UH, CUL-DE-SAC IS WHAT WE MENTIONED, UH, BEING CONSTRUCTED UP THE HILL OF HAYES HILL AND RIO RIDGE TO ADD THOSE SIX LOTS. UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS THROUGH THE EXISTING STREET OF, UH, RIO RIDGE. IN THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, THERE'S ALREADY A ROADWAY BUILT INTO OUR MULTI-FAMILY TRACT. SO WE WOULD UTILIZE THAT ONLY FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS AND PUT A NOX BOX AT THAT LOCATION SO THERE'S NO EXIT, NO ENTRY FOR THE MULTIFAMILY USERS INTO THAT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH REDUCES DRASTICALLY THE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, THE DEVELOPMENT, OF COURSE, IS PART OF CROWN RIDGE AND WOULD CONTINUE TO PAY ASSESSMENTS, UH, AS A MULTIFAMILY USE ACCORDING TO THE STANDARDS SET BY, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF CROWN RICH. THIS IS THE CURRENT SITE PLAN, AGAIN, OVER THE AERIAL. WE, MOST OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COURSES ON AREAS THAT WERE GRADED PREVIOUSLY, UH, ACCORDING TO DIFFERENT PROJECTS, SET YEARS AND YEARS BACK. SO MOST OF THE BUILDINGS WILL STAY ON THOSE AREAS THAT WERE ALREADY GRADED. AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT ALL WE'VE GOT TODAY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. UM, IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK GABRIEL FERNANDEZ, FOLLOWED BY JENNY SW. ALRIGHT, HELLO, UH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY VOICE TODAY. I'M, MY NAME'S GABRIEL FERNANDEZ. I'M A NEW RESIDENT OF HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE. AND, UH, IN REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US, I JUST WANTED, UH, TO BRING AWARENESS THAT IN, IN THE PRESENTATION WE JUST SAW, UM, THE ELEVATION I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT TO CONSIDER HERE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED YET. UM, SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT WE HAVE A BALLOON TEST TO ADEQUATELY UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE BUILDINGS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THEY WERE PUT THERE. UM, AND SO HERE'S A THREE D UH, LANDSCAPE, UH, VIEW. UH, JUST TO ZOOM IN, THIS IS WHAT WE JUST SAW FROM THE SIDE. AND SO AT THE CORNER OF LUKI AND REAL RIDGE ON THE LEFT, WE HAVE ABOUT AN 1,180 FOOT ELEVATION. UM, AND THEN AT THE PRO PROPOSED ZONING AREA AT THE TOP, THERE'S UH, 1,350 FEET APPROXIMATE ELEVATION. SO THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF 170 FEET. UM, AND UM, AND THESE ARE GOING OFF OF, UM, THE LAND USE. SO YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP LEFT, THE FI UH, FINISHED FLOOR PLAN IS 1349, UM, THERE AT THE TOP. AND, UH, HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW, UH, FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO, UH, AN EXISTING HOUSE, A ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED ZONING IS, THE FINISHED FLOOR PLAN IS 1,315 FEET. UM, THE NEW PROPERTIES WOULD BE AT, UH, 1349, APPROXIMATELY AS A A FINISHED FLOOR PLAN, UM, WITH THE TOP OF 1,384 FEET. AND THEN THIS IS FROM THE VIEW AT REAL RIDGE AT LANO LEDGE. UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP WHERE THE ARROW IS, THE BOTTOM OF THAT, UH, FINISHED FLOOR IS ABOVE WHERE THE TOP OF THE BUILDINGS ARE VERY CLOSE BY. UM, SO THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE, ANOTHER 35 FEET ABOVE THAT TO CONSIDER. UM, AND SO I THINK, UM, A BALLOON TEST, UH, SHOULD BE PUT IN PLACE SO THAT WE HAVE [00:25:01] MORE INFORMATION SO THAT EVERYONE CAN MAKE THE PROPER DECISION HERE. UM, IT IS QUITE ELEVATED. UH, THIS IS ANOTHER, UM, VIEW, UM, ZOOMED IN JUST FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE. THE, THE CORNER HOUSE HERE, UH, THE FINISHED FLOOR PLAN, UH, FINISHED FLOOR LEVEL IS 1322. UM, SO THE TOP OF THIS BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY AT THE BOTTOM OF WHAT THE MULTIFAMILY WOULD BE. I'M HEARD MICROPHONES. OUR MICROPHONES ARE GOING IN AND OUT. SO THAT'S TWO MINUTES. OKAY. AND, UH, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT 175 RESIDENTS HAVE ALSO VOICED THAT THEY'RE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AS THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME IS JENNY SWILLEY AND I WORK WITH THE, UH, H O A BOARD OF CROWN RIDGE WITH LANDSCAPING. AND, UH, I KNOW THAT AS APARTMENTS HAVE BEEN BUILT OUT WHERE WE ARE, WE'VE HAD A TERRIBLE TIME TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE TRASH. ANYONE WHO TRAVELS ON BABCOCK SEES THE NASTY, NASTY TRASH AND THEN THE MOWERS COME AND MOW OVER IT. AND SO I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT, AND THE TRAFFIC THAT WE AS CROWN RIDGE WILL ALSO ENCOUNTER ON LUKI AND ON CAMP BULLIS AND TRYING TO CLEAN UP ALL OF THAT TRASH THAT IS FLUNG OUT BY RESIDENTS, WHETHER THEY BE, UH, HOMEOWNERS OR APARTMENT DWELLERS. IF YOU START DOWN AT BABCOCK IN 1604, YOU HAVE TETRO, WHICH IS A HUGE COMPLEX FOR STUDENTS. ONCE YOU PASS THAT, YOU ENCOUNTER, UH, CHASE HILL, WHICH IS HUGE. IT'S PROBABLY FOUR OR 500 UNITS, IT'S REALLY LARGE. UH, THEN THERE IS SOME GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. AND ONCE YOU GET TO, UH, CAMP WHERE CAMP BULLIS DEAD ENDS INTO BABCOCK, THERE ARE SEVERAL APARTMENT COMPLEXES THERE. YOU RUN INTO ANOTHER ONE, UH, CALLED THE VIEW, WHICH IS ALREADY IN CROWN RIDGE AND IS RATHER A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, AS WELL AS ANOTHER ONE, THE VIEW, UH, 30 SECONDS VISTA RIDGE. MY POINT BEING, IF YOU TAKE THAT WHOLE AREA, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF APARTMENTS AND, UH, I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH RESIDENTS, HOMEOWNERS ARE STAKEHOLDERS. WE TAKE CARE OF OUR PROPERTY. RESIDENTS OF APARTMENTS MAY OR MAY NOT. MOST OF US BOUGHT THERE BECAUSE IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL TRINITY THAT WAS THE MASTER PLAN. AND MANY OF US LOOKED AT THE MASTER PLAN BEFORE WE MADE OUR DECISIONS. SO AT THIS POINT TIME, THANK YOU SHANE ABERNATHY, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT LINZ. I FEEL A LITTLE INADEQUATE 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A SLIDESHOW PRESENTATION. HOWEVER, I AM A RESIDENT OF THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE AND I BOUGHT A HOUSE, WHICH IS BY FAR MY BIGGEST INVESTMENT. UM, SO I OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING APARTMENTS FOR THE SHEER FACT THAT WE'RE ALREADY SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS. AND WHO'S TO SAY, AND JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND. WE'LL CALL IT 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, IF I DECIDE TO SELL MY HOUSE, I'M SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS. WHO AM I SELLING TO? AND ARE THEY ACTUALLY APARTMENTS OR ARE THEY LONG-TERM STAY HOTELS, MOTELS, COMMERCIALS, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE SITES? SO IT'S, IT'S A CONCERN OF MINE AS BEING A HOMEOWNER THAT IT WILL DEVALUE HOME PROPERTY VALUES. SO I WANT TO REITERATE, THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMEOWNERS OPPOSE THIS. I CAN'T SAY EVERYONE DOES, 'CAUSE I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, BUT FOR THE MAJORITY, I THINK THEY FEEL MUCH LIKE I DO. THANKS. THANK YOU. ROBERT LENTZ, FOLLOWED BY OSCAR CASTILLO. HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S ROBERT LENTZ. UM, I'M UP HERE. I LIVE ON REAL RIDGE 1-881-ONE-REAL RIDGE. UM, I'M HERE TO GO AGAINST THE APARTMENTS. I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT THE LAND REZONE. I PURCHASED MY HOUSE ON REAL RIDGE IN 2013 WITH THE ASPECT OF BEING SOLD ON THE CONCEPT AT THE BEHIND ME WAS A GREEN BELT. AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE PICTURE, THAT'S NOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. [00:30:01] AND IT'S BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER DID A POOR JOB OF REALLY BUILDING OUT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY REZONED THAT PROPERTY WITH THE BIGGER CROWN RIDGE, H O A, NOT THE HEIGHTS. SO WE ENDED UP BUYING INTO THE COMMUNITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE DID PAY PREMIUMS FOR THOSE LOTS. THERE'S ACTUALLY OPEN LEGAL SUIT ON THAT AT THE MOMENT FOR FALSE ADVERTISEMENT. AND THEY ENDED UP BUILDING APARTMENTS, RIGHT? AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS SAME JOURNEY AGAIN. THESE GUYS OVER HERE, I KNOW THEY'RE HERE TO MAKE MONEY AND THEY'RE HERE TO RUN A BUSINESS, BUT NOBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ONCE THE APARTMENT'S THERE, THE, UH, H O A HAS DONE A POOR JOB OF REALLY COMMUNICATING ALL THIS ACTIVITY WAS GOING ON AT THE BEGINNING. UM, UNLESS YOU'RE ON FACEBOOK OR SOMETHING. SO NOBODY REALLY WAS AT THE BEGINNING MEETINGS. NOBODY'S ADVISING THEM ON HOW TO MOVE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. NOBODY WANTS THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT'S GONNA CREATE A LOT MORE NOISE POPULATION. UM, I'M DEALING WITH IT. I HEAR PEOPLE OUT THERE, DOGS BARKING ALL THE TIME. MY CAR WAS BROKEN INTO TWO WEEKS AGO. UM, THESE ARE THINGS WHEN YOU BUY A HALF A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE, YOU DIDN'T BUY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEING SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS. AND THAT'S 100% WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. UM, AND I JUST THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT OTHER HOUSES TO PURCHASE. I HAVE RENTAL HOMES AS WELL. THE, IF YOU LOOK IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS, 30 SECONDS, THERE IS NO OTHER $500,000 HOMES IN THE FIVE MILE RADIUS THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE BRAND NEW. WE SHOULD BUILD ON THE COMMUNITY OF THE DREAM OF HAVING KIDS AND CHILDREN AND PEOPLE BUILDING INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO CONTINUE GROWING OUT THE POPULATION IN THE WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, SERVES THE SINGLE FAMILY UNIT. SO I'M AGAINST IT. DON'T LET THEM FOOL YOU. NOBODY WANTS THE APARTMENTS. EVERYBODY'S 100% AGAINST IT. IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO HAVE A LAWYER REPRESENT US, WE WOULD PLEASE DON'T PASS IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND IF, WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. OSCAR CASTILLO, FOLLOWED BY GILBERTO GONZALEZ. HELLO, MY NAME IS OSCAR CASTILLO. I'M AT 1-890-SIX-REAL RIDGE, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, UH, FROM THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT. AND I AM AGAINST. AND, UH, ABOUT STRAIGHT. I DIDN'T BRING NOTHING. UH, I DIDN'T PREPARE MYSELF. IT WAS KIND OF, KIND OF, UH, AT THE LAST MINUTE. BUT, UM, RIGHT NOW THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS GOING THROUGH A, UH, UH, ANOTHER, ANOTHER ELECTION FOR THE YEAR. AND SO WE'RE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASKING, UH, AGAINST, AND ALSO, IF NOT THEN TO DELAY, UH, FOR US TO GATHER TIME. UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS FROM THE OWNERS IN THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE ARE NEGATIVE, ARE NEGATIVE. I DIDN'T HEAR A SINGLE VOICE FOUR DURING THE MEETINGS OVER, UH, AT OUR, UH, CITY COUNCIL AT THE LIBRARY. SO, UM, WITH THAT, UH, JUST RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL NATURAL. AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE FOR, UH, MAJORITY OR FOR RESIDENTIAL, UH, ONLY. AND, UH, WE'VE SEEN A PATTERN OF DEVELOPERS, UH, IN THE BAD SITUATION. THERE'S, THERE, THERE'S IN THE HEIGHT, THE HEIGHTS OF CROWNS ALONE, THERE'S ONE GOING ON. THERE'S, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT. THE, TO ME, IN MY MY OPINION, NOT IT, IT'S, UH, FROM ANOTHER DEVELOPER. THEY'VE, UH, COMMITTED FRAUD THROUGH THEIR E P A USING A, UH, A SURVEY FOR, UH, BIOLOGICAL, UH, FOR THE, THE TREES AND, AND UH, AND UH, AND THE, AND THE SPECIES IN THE AREA. AND SO WE HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE WITH THE DEVELOPER AS, AS ROBERT SAID, AND SO THERE'S A PATTERN GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE, WE, THINGS NEED TO GET HANDLED ON TOP OF THAT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IN MY OPINION, DOES NOT SUPPORT, UH, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW ON BABCOCK BECAUSE IT'S A TWO LANE, IT'S A TWO-LANE ROAD AND IT GOES ALL THE, THE TRAFFIC GOES ALL THE WAY TO 1604. THAT'S YOUR TWO MINUTES, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GILBERTO GONZALEZ, FOLLOWED BY BIANCA ZAPATA. HELLO, MY NAME IS GILBERT GONZALEZ. I LIVE IN 7 7 0 2 HAY HILL. I THINK THAT IF A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A CITY IS WORTH LIVING IN, THEN YOU SHOULD TAKE PRIDE IN THAT CITY OR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, OR THAT'S WHY WE MOVED HERE FROM VICTORIA, TEXAS ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO. IT WAS AUGUST AS THEIR RETIRED VETERAN. I'M PROUD TO BE SAN ANTONIO 'CAUSE ALL OF Y'ALL ARE HERE ALSO. SO, UH, ONE OF THE BIG BIGGEST CONCERNS WHEN BUYING A HOME OR ANYTHING IS AN, IS A, AN INVESTMENT. INVESTMENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO GO UP IN VALUE WHEN AN APARTMENT, ESPECIALLY YOUR APARTMENTS WHO ARE GONNA HAVE PROBABLY SECTION EIGHT HOUSING, THOSE VALUES ARE GONNA GO DOWN. THOSE INVESTMENTS [00:35:01] ARE GONNA GO DOWN. AND AS A GRANDFATHER, MY, I WOULD THINK THAT WHEN WE FIRST MOVED HERE, WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT HOUSE AS AN INVESTMENT FOR OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN. BUT, AND THEY COME OVER AND THEY THINK THAT WHEN THEY LOVE SAN ANTONIO AS MUCH AS IF NOT MORE THAN YOU DO, AND THEY ENJOY EVERYTHING HERE IN SAN FROM THE RESTAURANTS TO JUST THE PEOPLE. AND AS A RETIRED VETERAN, WE ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN MANY THINGS THAT VETERANS ARE CONCERNED WITH. AND ALSO IT'S IMPORTANT ONCE AGAIN TO REALIZE THAT A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THAT SCREEN IS NOT WHAT'S ACTUALLY THERE. THEY'RE, YOU'RE BEING FED OR PUSHED DOWN OUR THROATS THAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A GREEN BELT AND THAT GREEN BELT PROPERTY, THERE'S, YOU CAN'T GROW NOTHING IN IT. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE NOT PUTTING ANY APARTMENTS OR ANYTHING ON THERE. IT'S TOO STEEP. AND EVERYTHING THERE ON TOP OF THAT HILL, EVERY TOP, EVERYTHING ON TOP OF, UH, CROWN RIDGE AND HE OF CROWN RIDGE IS ROCK. YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA POUND AND DEEP DEEPEN TO GET IN THERE. SO THIS GREEN BELT THING IS JUST BSS YOU CAN'T GROW NOTHING IN, THERE'S NONE. THEY'RE NOT DOING US A FAVOR BY SAYING WE ARE GIVING YOU THIS GREEN BELT. IT'S NOT. UM, THAT'S YOUR TIME, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU . THANK YOU. YCA ZAPATA FOLLOWED BY ANTHONY SERRANO. HI, UM, MY NAME IS BIANCA SAPA. I LIVE AT 1 8 8 2 7 RIO RIDGE. WE PURCHASED OUR HOME IN EARLY JUNE, MOVED IN. EVERYTHING'S BEEN GREAT. UM, WE MOVED THERE BECAUSE WE FELL IN LOVE WITH THE VIEW. I HAVE CHILDREN TO RAISE, THEY GET TO GO TO BRANDEIS. IT'S AN AMAZING SCHOOL. AND THEY ALSO GO TO GARCIA GREAT SCHOOLS IN NORTHSIDE. UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, I WORK FOR THE COUNTY. AND SO, UH, WITH THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO BE IN A SAFE COMMUNITY FOR MY CHILDREN AND FOR MYSELF. UM, MOVING IN, I OVERLOOKED THE ALREADY THREE EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN OUR AREA, THE MARQUEE AT CROWN RIDGE. THE VIEW AT CROWN RIDGE AND THE RETREAT AT CROSS MOUNTAIN, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC TO BEGIN WITH THERE. UM, SOMETIMES IF THERE'S A CAR ACCIDENT, THE TRAFFIC CAN GET BACKED UP, DOWN BABCOCK, ALL THE WAY GETTING TOWARDS CHASE HILL BOULEVARD. IT'S VERY INCONVENIENT FOR THE RESIDENTS AND GOING OUT OF OUR WAY TO AVOID THAT TRAFFIC IS NOT NECESSARY. UM, MY FIRST INTERACTION WITH MY H O A AND THE DEVELOPERS, I CAME BACK VERY FRUSTRATED AND UPSET. UM, THE DEVELOPERS PRESENTED THE ABSOLUTE BEST CASE SCENARIO AND DEVELOPING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, I'M SURE IT'LL BE VERY EXPENSIVE, I'M SURE IT'LL BE VERY BEAUTIFUL AND THERE'LL BE A LOT OF AMENITIES THERE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS. BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM THE VIEW OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ALREADY LIVE THERE. THE BACK OF MY APARTMENTS, THE BACK OF MY HOUSE, I CAN SEE A LITTLE SMIDGE OF ONE OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND I OVERLOOK THAT. AND WE PAID ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT 30 SECONDS. UM, THE TRAFFIC, THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY, UM, ALL OF THAT GO. LEAVING THE MEETING. I FOUND OUT THAT THE AREA WHERE I LIVED, THERE WAS SOME CAVED IN AREAS THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES UNDERNEATH THE GROUND. THEY FILLED THAT IN WITH CEMENT. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WAS SOME RETAINING WALL ISSUES. SO I'M SURE WITH THESE BIG BEAUTIFUL APARTMENTS, SO BE RETAINING WALLS. AND THAT CONCERNS ME, GIVEN THAT THE APARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE ABOVE ME AND I LIVE RIGHT BELOW WHERE THIS APARTMENT WOULD BE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANTHONY SERRANO, FOLLOWED BY ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ. HI, MY NAME IS ANTHONY SERRANO. I LIVE IN 18 8 1 4 EDWARDS EDGE. UM, I JUST WANNA START BY SAYING THAT THE APARTMENT THAT THE LADY WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE IMMEDIATE THREE APARTMENTS RIGHT NEXT TO OUR COMMUNITY, THEY, BETWEEN THE THREE OF 'EM, THERE'S 300 EMPTY APARTMENTS. UM, THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE IN THAT HILL, THEY'RE ABOUT 300 UNITS. THAT RIGHT THERE SHOULD DISQUALIFY THEM TO BUILD BRAND NEW APARTMENTS. UM, THERE ARE IN TOTAL OF EIGHT TO NINE APARTMENTS, THAT'S NOT EVEN COUNTING THE ONES THEY'RE BUILDING LESS THAN A MILE DOWN BEHIND LARA. UM, THEY ARE A TOTAL OF 500 EMPTY APARTMENTS. UM, AGAIN, THERE'S NO NEED FOR A BRAND NEW APARTMENT. UM, WHEN I MOVED TO THIS COMMUNITY, I OVERLOOKED ALSO THE THREE APARTMENTS. THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. UM, IF SOMEBODY WOULD'VE TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE GONNA BUILD A BRAND NEW APARTMENT LESS THAN A YEAR OF ME BUYING THIS HOUSE, I WOULD TOTALLY NOT BUY THAT HOME. I WOULD'VE LOOKED SOMEWHERE ELSE. UM, AND YEAH, I WILL NOT TAKE ANY MORE TIME. AGAIN, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALEJANDRO [00:40:01] GONZALEZ. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ. I LIVE AT 1 8 8 2 3 REAL RIDGE. AND, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO STATE MY OPPOSITION, MY VEHEMENT OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING OF THIS AREA OF SAN ANTONIO. UH, WE BOUGHT OUR HOME APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS AGO. WE WERE TOLD THE FOLLOWING, WE WERE TOLD THAT YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL BACKYARD WITH AN INCREDIBLE VIEW. JUST KIND OF THINK THAT A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. YOU WERE TOLD THIS IS GONNA BE A, AN INCREDIBLE GREEN SPACE AND UH, WHENEVER THE DEVELOPER DEVELOPS UP ON THE BLUFFS UP ABOVE YOU, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME REALLY, REALLY NICE HIGH-END HOMES. THAT'S WHAT YOUR FUTURE LOOKS LIKE. AND SO MY WIFE AND I DECIDED, HEY, THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL. LET'S BUILD OUR HOME HERE. LET'S PUT A POOL IN. LET'S REALLY MAKE THIS OUR RETIREMENT, UH, HOME. AND SO FAST FORWARD FIVE YEARS LATER, WE NOW HAVE THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX TO OUR IMMEDIATE LEFT BELOW US THAT PROVI HAS PROVIDED US INCREDIBLE NOISE POLLUTION, UH, AWESOME LIGHT POLLUTION. AND WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING THE APARTMENTS, THEY GAVE US A LOT OF, A LOT OF, UH, AERATED GRAVEL ALL OVER TO THE POINT WHERE WE COULDN'T KEEP OUR BACKYARD CLEAN AND OUR POOL CLEAN FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 30 SECONDS. AND SO NOW WE'RE TOLD, OH, BY THE WAY, NOW WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE HIGH-END HOMES THAT WE PROMISED YOU THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THERE. 'CAUSE WE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT, OKAY, MAYBE WE CAN LIKE MOVE AND GET, GO BUY ONE OF THOSE HIGH-END HOMES. NOW, NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE APARTMENTS ABOUT NOT ONLY ABOVE US, BUT ABOUT THREE AND A HALF STORIES ABOVE US AS WELL. SO I HOPE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND MY SITUATION AND I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR SITUATION AS WELL. BUT I HOPE YOU CAN APPRECIATE WHERE I'M COMING FROM. I TOTALLY OPPOSE THIS REZONING OF THIS AREA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT. UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO HAVE TIME, UM, FOR REBUTTAL? GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, JUST TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS AND THEN WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE. UH, WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE OPPOSED, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE STAYED THEIR POSITION. WE'VE HEARD, WE'VE HEARD THINGS. IT'S, IT'S TRAFFIC, IT'S PROPERTY VALUES AND IT'S CRIME. THE, THE THINGS WE TYPICALLY HEAR IN OPPOSITION TO, UH, ZONING CASES. WELL, WITH THE CRIME, THERE ARE NO STUDIES THAT SHOW THERE'S GONNA BE AN INCREASE IN CRIME. IT'S BASED ON THE GENERAL ASSUMPTION. DEPARTMENT DWELLERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO, YOU KNOW, BRING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHICH JUST HASN'T BEEN SHOWN TO BE THE CASE. IN HIGH-END, UH, DEVELOPMENTS IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC WE'VE DEMONSTRATED IT'S ACTUALLY IS A REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC OVER WHAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THE SITE AS SINGLE FAMILY. AND THEN FINALLY, ON PROPERTY VALUES. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, STUDIES, A GREAT STUDY OUT OF HARVARD FROM FEW YEARS BACK THAT SHOWS THAT, UH, APARTMENTS NOT ONLY DO NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON NEARBY SINGLE FAMILY, BUT THEN IN SOME CASES BY STABILIZING THE MARKET HAS A ACTUALLY AN INCREASED VALUE FOR NEARBY SINGLE FAMILY. SO I KNOW PEOPLE SEE THAT THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T LIKE IT, THEY DON'T WANT IT. THEY SAY THERE'RE ALREADY TWO APARTMENTS, BUT TOO MANY APARTMENTS. BUT QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS DEMAND, UH, WHERE WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE CITY TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES SO THAT FOLKS CAN AFFORD TO LIVE WHERE THEY WANT TO LIVE. AND SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, YOUR INDULGENCE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS CASE. AND LIKE I SAID, MYSELF AND DAVE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. OKAY, ROB, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I, I WANNA APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY. THIS CASE GOT OR, OR NOT, MAYBE YOU'RE HAPPY THIS CASE GOT MOVED UP 'CAUSE I HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY. SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR ANOTHER CASE, IT'S MY FAULT THAT YOU'RE SITTING HERE. UM, THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WHO WOULD HOLD THAT CONSERVATION EASEMENT? WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO HOLD IT. OKAY. YOU'RE NOT PLANNING TO JUST HOLD IT YOUR, YOUR CLIENT WITHOUT BE. WE WOULD LIKE A THIRD PARTY TO HOLD IT SO THAT WAY IT'S, UH, SAFE FOR TIME AND MEMORIAL. CAN YOU, UM, PUT UP THE CURRENT SITE PLAN AND, AND JUST EXPLAIN TO US THE HEIGHT OF THE VARIOUS BUILDINGS? DAVID? QUESTION, CERTAINLY. THE, UH, DO WE HAVE THAT? GOT IT. OKAY. [00:45:01] THE ACTUAL LATEST BACK, RIGHT. THIS WILL WORK. UM, SO THE ELEVATION OF THIS BUILDING, THIS BUILDING AND THIS BUILDING REALLY, REALLY ONLY THE TWO OF THESE ARE THE HIGHER BUILDINGS. THIS BUILDING, THAT BUILDING THAT BUILDING WOULD SAY BE THE NEXT TIER, IF YOU WILL. AND THEN THE, THE REST IS REALLY DOWN THE HILL. UH, THIS IS THE CREST OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE. THE PURPOSE OF ADDING THESE HOMES, AS STATED BEFORE, WAS TO GET THE TOPS OF THESE HOUSES COMMENSURATE TO THE TOPS OF THESE BUILDINGS. THEY'RE STILL BELOW IT, BUT NOT BY MUCH A FEW FEET. UM, THE, IN FACT WE'LL BE MILLING THIS DOWN SOME TO REDUCE THAT EVEN FURTHER. A FEW FEET. THIS, UH, UH, THE, THE HOUSES BEING THAT HIGH WILL HELP BLOCK VIEWS HERE. NOW THIS ONE IS ACROSS THAT AS MENTIONED, MORE OF A, A RAVINE, BUT THERE'S 300 FEET THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE. SOME OF THE APARTMENTS THAT WERE REFERRED TO EARLIER, I BELIEVE ARE DOWN HERE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF HOUSES. AND WE'LL BE UP TO 300 FEET SEPARATED FOR AS A RESULT OF VARIOUS MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, FOR EACH BUILDING. CAN YOU JUST SAY HOW MANY STORES? YES, CERTAINLY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE, UH, SOME OF THESE WILL BE THREE FOUR SPLIT WHERE THERE'S A LITTLE MORE TOPO BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THE BUILDING PAD TO STAY JUST WHERE THE BUILDING IS. UH, A THREE STORY BUILDING WILL BE 35 FEET. A THREE FOUR FROM AVERAGE WILL BE A FEW FEET HIGHER THAN THAT. THE ONES AT THE TOP WILL BE 35 FEET, THREE STORY THREE ON BOTH THE UP AND DOWN. SO IT'S NOT A THREE FOUR SPLIT HERE. THESE ARE JUST STRAIGHT UP THREE STORY 35 FOOT, WHICH IS THE SAME MAX HEIGHT FOR R SIX. SO ANY HOMES HERE THAT WOULD GO ACROSS THE PROJECT HERE WOULD HAVE THE SAME ABILITY FOR 35 FEET. THERE'LL JUST BE LESS OF THEM IN MORE COMPACT LOCATION. OKAY. SO FOR SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ON RIO RIDGE OR EDWARDS EDGE OR HAYES HILL AND THEY'RE LOOKING OVER IN THAT DIRECTION AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY Y'ALL DIDN'T DO THE BALLOON TEST 'CAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS TRYING TO PUSH THAT REAL HARD AT THE MEETING. UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT WILL THEY SEE? 'CAUSE WE'RE HEARING FROM THEM THAT THEY'RE GONNA SEE APARTMENT BUILDINGS KIND OF LOOMING OVER THEIR HOUSE. BUT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WILL THEY SEE? THEY WILL SEE FROM THIS INTERSECTION, THERE'S 1, 2, 3, 4 HOUSES GOING UP THE HILL. THEY'LL BE THE SAME STYLE, SAME BUILD, SAME CRAFT AS THE OTHER HOMES. THEY'LL BE 35 FEET HIGH, TWO STORY OR 30 FEET HIGH, PROBABLY CLOSER TO IT. TWO STORY WITH A ROOFTOP, UH, THAT IS A FEW FEET BELOW THESE. SO THEY'LL SEE THESE HOMES IF STANDING IN THE INTERSECTION. IF YOU CRANE YOUR NECK BETWEEN TWO HOUSES, THERE'S 10 FEET OF SEPARATION, WILL YOU SEE SOMETHING? IT'S POTENTIAL, UH, FOR SURE. THE HOMES DOWN HERE DRIVING UP THE HILL. UH, AS YOU GET INTO A, AS YOU'RE IN HERE, UH, IN A GAUNTLET OF HOMES IF YOU WILL, YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING BUT THE, THE HOMES THERE AND THEY'RE VERY NICE HOMES AND IT'S A GOOD VIEW. AS YOU GET A LITTLE FURTHER UP, IT GETS CLEAR AT THIS LOCATION, THEN YOU WOULD GET A GLIMPSE, UH, OF THESE HERE EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT, UH, BUILDINGS LOOMING OVER THE TOP OF THEM. THE ONLY TWO THAT ARE, THAT ARE HIGHER THAN THE HOMES HERE ARE THESE TWO BY ABOUT 20 TO 25 FEET. AGAIN, THESE HOMES WILL HELP BREAK THAT. AND THEN THE 300 FOOT SETBACK HERE, UH, HELPS AS FAR AS VIEW THIS DIRECTION AND THEN WE WILL END UP DOING LANDSCAPING AND SO FORTH HERE. OKAY. I'M SORRY. THE PUBLIC HEARING'S OVER, UM, WHEN WE FIRST MET ON THIS PROJECT, YOU WERE ASKING FOR HOW MANY UNITS AND I'M, I'M NOT APPROXIMATELY 340, SO SO YOU WERE AT THREE 40 AND YOU BROUGHT IT DOWN. YES, A LITTLE. OKAY. TO 300. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, SO I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE OTHERS. ALRIGHT, UM, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES, PLEASE. UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, SOMEONE UH, MENTIONED EARLIER, SECTION EIGHT OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WILL THERE BE ANY AFFORDABILITY ON THIS PROJECT? THERE WILL NOT DUE TO THE LOCATION IN NORTHWEST SAN ANTONIO IN THIS PARTICULAR COST. SO NO, IT WILL BE MARKET, WHAT WE CALL MARKET RATE. GREAT. AND UM, SECOND QUESTION. AND SO YOU GUYS HAVE DONE MARKET STUDIES ON THAT 'CAUSE THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, ABSORPTION AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S 500 VACANT APARTMENT IN THAT AREA. YOU GUYS HAVE PERFORMED YOUR MARKET STUDY AND YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS, IT CAN BE SUPPORTED THERE. YEAH, WE DO. I THINK HE MENTIONED 300 AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM. UH, BUT APARTMENT NEW APARTMENTS DO TAKE SOME TIME TO LEASE UP. UH, WE DO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS AREA CAN SUPPORT THESE AND, AND IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE AREA FOR SURE. OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, COULD YOU, UM, ADDRESS THE NOISE AND UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE [00:50:01] IS MAYBE THE BUILDING DUST THAT MIGHT COME UP, BUT COULD YOU ADDRESS SOMEONE, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS MENTIONED THE NOISE AND ALL. CERTAINLY, UH, THE NOISE. UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT NOISE PARTICULARLY WE'RE SPEAKING OF OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL NOISE IN GENERAL OF PEOPLE BEING OUTSIDE AND DOING THINGS. BUT THE, THE BUILDINGS SET BACK OF UP TO 300 FEET, UH, CERTAINLY HELPS ANY ISSUE WITH THAT. AS FAR AS THE DUST AND SO FORTH DURING CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE ALWAYS REQUIRED TO HAVE WATER TRUCKS ON SITE AND KEEP, THINK, KEEP THE DUST DOWN, UH, AS BEST AND, AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUILT THERE WILL TAKE A MUCH LONGER TIME TO BUILD OUT, UH, IF, IF IT GOES THAT DIRECTION INSTEAD WITH SOMEONE ELSE. UH, AND DUST WOULD BE THE SAME ISSUE IN THAT, IN THAT SITUATION. BUILDING TIMELINE, UH, WE USUALLY CAN GET THESE, UH, DONE IN ABOUT 18 MONTHS TO TWO, TWO YEARS TOTAL, INCLUDING ENTITLEMENTS. UM, THESE APARTMENTS ARE UNDER AN H O A OR IS THAT AN EXISTING H O A OR YOU'RE ESTABLISHING A DIFFERENT H O A? NO, THIS IS, UH, THE, UH, CROWN RIDGE MASTER PLAN INCLUDED THIS OVERALL PROPERTY, THIS ONE AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY. UH, WE, YOU KNOW, YEARS BACK WERE INVOLVED IN SETTING UP THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE, H O A AS A A SIT AS A SUB, UH, H O A TO THE MASTER, H O A AS THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED. UH, SO THE, UH, WOULD, THIS WOULD BE UNDER THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE, H O A AS WELL AS THE CROWN RIDGE, H O A, UH, AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEES AS WELL. SO WHICH H O A DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND DO YOU, ARE THEY PREPARED FOR THE COST, THE VOLUNTEER, WHATEVER FOR THAT CONSERVATION EASEMENT? UH, WE MET WITH THE BOARD OF, I WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD BE CROWN RIDGE ITSELF. 'CAUSE CROWN RIDGE ACTS MORE LIKE A MASTER OVER THE, OVER ALL OF THE PROPERTIES OUT THERE. UH, AND THEY WERE NOT OPPOSED WHATSOEVER TO IT. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA THAT, THAT, AS YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THAT. BUT THAT WAS THE INITIAL RESPONSE. I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN ANYBODY'S MOUTH. OKAY. JUST ONE MORE QUESTION THEN. UH, SOMEONE MENTIONED THE CAVES. HAD YOU COME ACROSS ANY CAVES AND HAVE YOU, UM, ELIMINATED THOSE CAVES? WE HAVE NOT COME ACROSS ANY CAVES. THERE'S CARS FEATURES THAT GENERALLY EXIST THROUGHOUT NORTHWEST SAN ANTONIO IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS AND DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS SOMETIMES DO COME ACROSS THEM AND I HAVE COME ACROSS THEM ON OTHER PROJECTS. THERE'S A T C E Q AND A US FISH WILDLIFE SERVICE PROTOCOL THAT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED. IF THAT DOES OCCUR AND WE HAVE DONE THAT IN OTHER PLACES HAVE NOT COME ACROSS ANYTHING HERE. AND I, I GUESS I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. UM, THE TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE 25 FEET, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAT ARE COMING UP TO THOSE HOUSES, ARE YOU WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THREE OR FOUR STORY? THEY WERE FOUR STORY AND THEY WERE REDUCED TO THREE AND FURTHER SETBACK AS WELL. WE'VE REALLY PUSHED THIS PRETTY FAR AS FAR AS WE CAN, SO WE REDUCED IT TO A TWO STORY. WE WOULD ELIMINATE THAT 25 FEET. IT WOULD NOT ELIMINATE IT, IT WOULD REDUCE THE TOPS OF THOSE BUILDINGS BELOW THE PROPOSED SIX HOMES THAT WE HAVE HERE. UM, BUT WE'RE, IT, IT, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE MUCH FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE CUL-DE-SAC. YOU, YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT FOUR HOUSES ON A CUL-DE-SAC, WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE A THREE STORY OR TWO STORY. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? JUST FOLLOWING UP, UH, ON MY COLLEAGUE'S QUESTION, WHY, WHY WASN'T THE BALLOON TEST DONE? UH, WE CAN, WE HAD NOT, UH, HAD THE TIME TO GET IT DONE. WILL YOU COMMIT TO DOING THE BALLOON TEST BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL? CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY WE CAN DO THAT. UM, I I AM JUST, LET'S SEE. SO YOU REDUCED IT FROM 340 TO 300 UNITS? YES MA'AM. SO YOU REDUCED DENSITY, UM, SEE THAT YOU'RE OFFERING TO, YOU'RE OFFERING TO PAY FOR FINISHING OUT THE CUL-DE-SAC IN THIS SUMMER? WE, WE WOULD. AND THE, AND IT'S KIND OF A TWOFOLD, IS TO ADD THESE HOMES HERE AS A BUFFER. CORRECT. WHICH RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE A PHOTO OF THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY MUCH A NUISANCE AREA. IT'S A, IT'S KIND OF A MESS. IT'S GOT KNOCKED DOWN FENCES AND BOULDERS AND THINGS SITTING THERE. SO IT WOULD BE A COMPLETION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A TERMINUS IF YOU WILL. OKAY. AND MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOU'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD THOSE RESIDENTIAL HOMES TOO? YES MA'AM. YES MA'AM. WE WOULD DO IT AT THE SAME TIME AND WE WOULD BUILD THEM TO THE EXACT SAME QUALITY LEVEL AND CONTROL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WOULD BE A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PART OF THE H O IN, IN THE, I'M SORRY, THOSE AREAS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE REZONING REQUEST FROM MULTIFAMILY. RIGHT? YEP. UM, SO WITH THE BUFFER THEN, BETWEEN THOSE NEW RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND THE UM, THE TWO BUILDINGS, WOULD YOU COMMIT TO DOING MAYBE SOME EXTRA LANDSCAPE BUFFERING [00:55:01] TO HELP MASK WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE BETWEEN, I I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY GET SOME TREES PLANTED THERE ON THE SIDES OF THOSE TWO BUILDINGS. YES. AND THAT'S A LARGER BUFFER THAN IS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY. OKAY. UH, AND TELL ME AGAIN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CALMING AT THE BOTTOM. I I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE DESCRIBING EARLIER. NOT, NOT TRAFFIC CALMING SO MUCH AS THIS IS A LONG STRETCH HERE AND WITH THE I 10 CONSTRUCTION DURING RUSH HOUR, THERE'S A FEW EXTRA CARS GOING THROUGH THE SORT OF THE WAY, THE WAY AROUND IF YOU WILL, I 10 BLOCKAGE AND SO FORTH. SO, UH, AS FOLKS GET USED TO THE FACT THAT THERE WILL BE A RIGHT TURN LANE AND A LEFT TURN LANE IN, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THERE IS THE INTERSECTION OF LUKI WHEN PEOPLE COME AROUND THAT CORNER THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, THEY SEE THAT AND THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A TURN COMING AND SO IT JUST, IT, IT HELPS TO SLOW THINGS DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT AND THERE'S PLENTY OF SIGHT DISTANCE. OF COURSE FOR THE INTERSECTION YOU'LL HAVE A DE CELL OR AN AXLE LANE. YES MA'AM. UH, A RIGHT TURN LANE D CELL AND A LEFT TURN LANE D CELL. OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES QUESTION EITHER FOR STAFF OR FOR THE APPLICANT AND THAT, UH, IS IN REGARDS TO GRANDFATHERING AND THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE. UM, IS THIS PROPERTY AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, DOES IT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE? GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, ROB KILLING 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET. SO THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE, UH, CROWN RIDGE OF TEXAS PRELIMINARY OVERALL AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS A MASTER PLAN FOR THE, I DON'T WANNA GET TOO DEEP INTO VESTED RIGHTS 'CAUSE WE'LL SPEND THE LAST NEXT, YOU KNOW, TWO HOURS ON THIS. BUT, BUT JUST GENERALLY, UH, WITHOUT HAVING SOUGHT A RIGHTS DETERMINATION FROM THE CITY FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROBABLY BE GRANDFATHERED FROM TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE OR AT LEAST SOME ITERATION OF IT. I WHAT I'M SAYING IN MY PRESENTATION, MY PERSONAL PRESENTATION IS THAT APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IS A CHANGE IN PROJECT, WHICH MEANS WE ARE WAIVING ANY RIGHTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE GRANDFATHERED, UH, FROM THE TREE PRESERVATION OR SOIL LANDSCAPE OR IS THAT, THAT IS THE ANSWER. I WAS THINKING YOU WOULD GIVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, SO, UM, ONE OF THE UM, PERSONS WHO SPOKE MENTIONED THAT THE, UH, COMPOSITION WHERE THE GREEN BELT IS WOULD NOT, UM, BE POSSIBLE TO BE GREEN BECAUSE IT WAS ROCK. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? UM, NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE INTENT OF THE COMMENT WAS. IT, IT'S A TREE. EVERYTHING WITHIN THE TWO GREEN SPACES WOULD REMAIN UNTOUCHED IS CURRENTLY SET. UH, AND THEN MUCH OF IT IS TREES, SOME OF IT IS IS GOT SOME GR UH, GRASS AND WEEDS OVER ROCK, YOU KNOW, NORTHWEST SAN ANTONIO. OH, OKAY. UH, THE, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT WE COULD GET ORDER IN THE AUDIENCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. UM, ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, ONE CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF. UM, DO WE HAVE A POSITION FROM CROWN RIDGE OF TEXAS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION? NO, WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING BACK FROM THEM, NO THANK YOU NOR THE NATURAL AREAS. AND COULD WE GET, UM, COULD WE SORT OF PAN BACK ON THIS A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE AND PERHAPS EVEN TO ACROSS LUKI TO THE HIGH SCHOOL? I'LL SAY A FEW THINGS. UH, WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, UM, I UNDERSTAND HOW THE NEIGHBORS FEEL. UM, BUT I, I DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND I'M GONNA HAVE SEVERAL REASONS WHY THAT I DO. UM, THE BIGGEST ONE FOR ME IS GOING FROM 43 ACRES TO JUST OVER 18 ACRES. I THINK IT'S RESPONSIBLE IN A LOT OF WAYS. I THINK IT BRINGS US SOME HOUSING THAT I DO THINK WE STILL NEED IN THE AREA, BUT IT USES UP A LOT LESS NATURAL SPACE IN TERMS OF THE HEAT ISLAND. UH, IN TERMS OF PROTECTING THE NATURAL ECOSYSTEM, IT IS REALLY HARD TO IGNORE, UM, THE BENEFIT OF GOING FROM 43 ACRES TO 18 ACRES. AND ROB KILLEN JUST WENT ON THE RECORD [01:00:01] AS SAYING THEY WOULD NOT BE ASKING FOR VESTING. SO THEY NOW HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE CURRENT TREE AND LANDSCAPE ORDINANCES, UH, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT. UM, TRAFFIC IS BAD OUT HERE. IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE, BUT ACCORDING TO THE TRAFFIC COUNT AND WE HAVE TO GO WITH THAT, IT IS MARGINALLY BETTER TO GO WITH THESE MULTIFAMILY INSTEAD OF THE SINGLE FAMILY. I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES, UM, WITH HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE AND, AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THIS. WHEN I USED TO WORK WITH FRIENDS OF FRIEDRICH PARK AND THESE HOMES WERE BUILT, PEOPLE WERE SO ANGRY EVERYBODY WAS CALLING THE COUNCIL OFFICE, EVERYBODY WAS CALLING THE CITY NATURAL AREAS. PEOPLE WERE SO ANGRY THAT THESE HOMES AT HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE, CROWN RIDGE WERE BEING BUILT BECAUSE THEY LOOMED OVER EVERYBODY ELSE AND BECAUSE THEY RUINED THE SCENERY FOR EVERYBODY AND BECAUSE THEY RUINED THE SCENERY AT CROWN RIDGE CANYON. AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW MAYBE YOU WERE TOLD THAT THAT WOULD ALWAYS BE A GREEN BELT NEXT TO YOU HEAR THAT A LOT, UM, THAT JUST, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING SOMEBODY COULD'VE PROMISED. AND SO I WANTED TO, TO PAN BACK ON THIS A LITTLE BIT AND, AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT EVERYTHING TO THE RIGHT OF HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE IS CROWN RIDGE, CANYON NATURAL AREA. SO WHEN YOU SEE WHAT'S TO THE RIGHT OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT WHERE, WHERE THESE FOLKS LIVE ON, ON EDWARDS IN HAYES HILL, THAT'S ALL A CITY NATURAL AREA. ALL THE WAY TO WHERE YOU SEE THOSE HOUSES COME UP AGAIN ON THE RIGHT OFF OF STRAUSS AND FIESTA GRANDE AND THOSE HOUSES, THAT'S A CITY NATURAL AREA. IT WILL NEVER BE DEVELOPED ACROSS THE STREET ON LUTKEY AND THAT BIG GREEN AREA BEHIND LUTKEY THERE, THAT'S ALL LUTHERAN HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S A SMALL BUILDING AND LOTS AND LOTS OF ATHLETIC FIELDS THAT WILL REMAIN GREEN FOR A LONG TIME. SO I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO THE COMMISSION TO SEE. I I MEAN WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON'T SEE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE AS BEING SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS. THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG NATURAL AREA OUT THERE AND IT WILL BE IN PERPETUITY 'CAUSE IT WAS BUILT WITH PROP THREE FUNDS. UM, I I THINK MAYBE THERE IS MORE TO DO WITH A BALLOON TEST AND THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY, UM, DEAL WITH THE HEIGHT A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT I MEAN, I'LL JUST BE FRANK, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT NOT TO SEE ROOFTOPS FROM THEIR HOUSE. UM, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THAT THE TOP TOPOGRAPHY IS OUT IN THIS AREA. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE OTHER ROOFTOPS, UM, AND THE LACK OF $500,000 HOMES. UM, I DON'T, I DON'T ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF $500,000 HOMES IN THIS AREA OUT HERE. I'M NOT SURE WE NEED A WHOLE LOT MORE. UM, OH, THE OTHER BIG THING, UH, THE ROAD, THIS IS A, THIS IS A HUGE FACTOR FOR ME AND I BELIEVE FOR, FOR DISTRICT EIGHT IN GENERAL, UH, THEY WILL BE PUTTING IN A SEPARATE ROAD, UH, TO THE MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEX OFF OF BABCOCK, WHICH TAKES THE ENTRY AND EXIT OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BOTH DURING CONSTRUCTION AND AFTERWARDS. OTHERWISE, IF THIS IS BUILT WITH THE CURRENT SINGLE FAMILY, IT'S GOING TO GO UP THROUGH THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE AND THE TRAFFIC ON LUTKEY IS ALREADY REALLY, REALLY BAD. UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER BIG REASON FOR ME THAT, UM, THE ROAD WOULD GO RIGHT DOWN TO BABCOCK, WHICH AGAIN, ISN'T GREAT, BUT IT, I REALLY BELIEVE TRAFFIC WOULD BE MUCH WORSE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY. AND, AND I'VE HEARD SOME NEIGHBORS SAY THAT, UH, WELL, THEY COULD BUILD THE SEPARATE ROAD FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO WHY DON'T THEY JUST DO THAT? WELL, THEY COULD, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, UH, THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO THAT. THAT'S REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE. THAT'S, IT'S ONLY GONNA HAPPEN, UH, IF THEY PUT IN THIS MULTI-FAMILY BECAUSE JUST DON'T DO THINGS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO. UM, SO, UM, LIKE TO HEAR OTHER COMMENTS. UM, BUT I AM READY. OH, ONE LAST THING THOUGH. THIS HAS, THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT HAS TO BE HELD BY SOMEBODY. UH, IT CAN'T JUST BE THE DEVELOPER'S PROMISE TO THEMSELF. DO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN. UM, BUT OTHERWISE, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. UM, SO FOR CASE I, UH, COMMEND APPROVAL FOR CASE NUMBER 11, SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES FIRST PLEASE. I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. AND THE MAIN REASON IS, IS BECAUSE OF THE, THE LAND THAT WILL BE TAKEN [01:05:01] OUT OF CIRCULATION, SO TO SPEAK. UM, I ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH MY COMMISSIONER IN THAT I BELIEVE THAT IF IT REMAINED AS RESIDENTIAL, AS, UM, AS CURRENTLY AS THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE TREES THAT THAT WOULD BE LEVELED, UM, BECAUSE THEY CAN, UM, AND SO, NO, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT, SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED. ALRIGHT, WELL, I, SORRY. YOU DON'T DISAGREE, I'M SURE. NO. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. UM, NO, BUT, UH, AGAIN, THE, THE, UH, THE PRESERVATION OF THE UNTOUCHED LAND IS, IS WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT, I THINK, UH, FOR, UH, SWAYING MY VOTE. THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. I TOO. UM, I FEEL THE FRUSTRATION OF THE HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE DEVELOPER TO WANNA MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. UM, AS A REALTOR, I UNDERSTAND NOT WANTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN YOUR BACKYARD OR BLOCKING YOUR VIEW. UM, I ALSO DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT IT CONTINUALLY DEVALUES YOUR HOME. THERE MAY BE SOME, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE LONGER WAIT ON THE MARKET FOR SOMEONE TO FIND THAT HOUSE, BUT I BELIEVE EVENTUALLY THOSE HOMES WILL SELL. UM, I LIKE THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO PROTECT SOME OF THE LAND AND, AND ARGUING THE TOPOGRAPHY OR NOT. I KNOW THAT SOME FLOOD ZONES HAVE BEEN MIRACULOUSLY RESTORED SO THAT HOUSES COULD BE BUILT ON IT. SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TRYING TO PROTECT A LITTLE MORE OF THAT ACREAGE, UH, AS A, AS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN THE PROCESS. I WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOPER TO REVISIT THE HEIGHT ON THOSE TWO BUILDINGS AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT PROBABLY LOWERING THAT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. MAYBE THAT'S, YOU TAKE OFF ANOTHER STORY THERE AND YOU MOVE THAT DOWN THE HILL TO ANOTHER ONE THAT CAN SUPPORT THAT EXTRA LEVEL. UM, I LIKE THAT YOU'VE CARVED OUT YOUR OWN, UM, ROAD DOWN TO BABCOCK. I DO KNOW THAT AREA. I HAVE BEEN UP THERE FOR WHEN I WAS WITH THE COUNCILMAN FOR PREVIOUS COMPLAINTS FROM THE ASSOCIATION ON TRASH AND PEOPLE CAMPING ON THAT PROPERTY OUT THERE. SO THIS IS A STEP FORWARD INTO MAYBE PROVIDING A LITTLE MORE SECURITY TO THE AREA RATHER THAN WHAT'S THERE NOW, JUST AS A NATURAL AREA WITH ANYONE CAMPING OUT THERE, THROWING TRASH, WHATEVER THERE, I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF AT THAT TIME. UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DIDN'T BOTHER TO REPLY THOUGH, THAT LIVE ON THAT ROAD, THAT BACK TO THIS AREA, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU THE NEXT TIME YOU GET A NOTICE THAT YOU FILL THAT OUT IN OPPOSITION AND SEND IT TO STAFF. 'CAUSE OTHERWISE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, UH, THAT WE CAN POINT TO ON SCREEN THAT SAYS ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE, ARE WITHIN 200 FEET, WHO ARE THE MOST CLOSELY IMPACTED WILL, UM, WE CAN HEAR THEIR VOICE. NOW, THAT DOESN'T SAY THE REST OF YOUR VOICES DON'T COUNT, BUT THAT'S TO SAY THE ONES THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED SHOULD BE THE ONES THAT DEFINITELY PULL THOSE CARDS OUT AND SEND THEM BACK. DO THAT WHEN YOU GET YOUR NEXT NOTICE FROM WHEN THIS ITEM GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. THAT WAY THE COUNCILMAN CAN UNDERSTAND, UH, HOW THAT MAY OR MAY NOT IMPACT YOU. UM, I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS, UH, PARTICULAR CASE, BUT I WILL LISTEN TO THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. I I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY 'CAUSE I THINK I SAID IT IN A CONFUSING WAY, THAT AS IS, WITHOUT THE ZONING CHANGE, UH, THEY WOULD BE VESTED FROM THE CURRENT TREE AND LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE. THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, AS FRANKLY WAS DONE WITH THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RICH. UM, IF IN FACT THEY GET THE ZONING CHANGE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. ROB KILLEN HAD GONE ON THE RECORD OF SAYING HE WILL NOT EVEN ASK FOR VESTED RIGHTS. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE, BY THE CURRENT STRICT TREE ORDINANCE AND LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE. UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT DISCUSSION COM, UM, I TOO WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. UM, WHILE I CAN DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME CONCERNS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE CONCERNS WITH DEVELOPMENT OF ANY KIND, UM, JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE ARE UNKNOWNS. UM, BUT I DO AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE AND RESPONSIBLE WAY TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY. THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO GO ON RECORD AND WILL NOT BE SEEKING BESTED RIGHTS AS WELL AS, UM, THE FACT THAT THEY WILL BE, UH, KEEPING PART OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY IN ITS NATURAL STATE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY GOING FORWARD TO, UM, PREVENT URBAN SPRAWL TO, UM, THINK ABOUT DEVELOPING IN A MORE GREEN WAY. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS SAN ANTONIO'S EXPERIENCING RECORD GROWTH. [01:10:03] THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY COMMISSIONER, UH, GIBBONS? I, I JUST WANNA THANK COMMISSIONER RAMER FOR, UM, HER EXPLANATION. VERY WELL DONE. AND I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT I ALSO WANNA THANK THE NEIGHBORS FOR YOU COMING OUT. IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HEAR YOUR CONCERNS, NOT JUST FOR US AS COMMISSIONERS, BUT TO THE DEVELOPER AS WELL. UM, LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, I WOULD AGREE. THE TWO BUILDINGS. I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE, UM, A LITTLE LESS IN HEIGHT. UM, I UNDERSTAND HOW DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AND YOU HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE AND BE FLUID WITH IT. THERE'LL BE MORE ON THE WAY. UM, I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S 60 YEARS OLD AND WHEN IT WAS BUILT THERE WAS COW PATS, I MEAN COW PASTURES AROUND. AND NOW I HAVE RETAIL AND APARTMENTS ALL AROUND US. BUT YOU, YOU LEARN TO GET ALONG. YOU LEARN TO WORK AT YOUR COMMUNITY AND MAKE IT THE BEST POSSIBLE PLACE FOR YOU TO ALL LIVE IN THAT HARMONY. UM, I GUESS I SAID THAT 'CAUSE I'M IN HARMONY HILLS. IT COMES NATURAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UM, IF THERE'S OTHER, UH, OKAY. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL YES. TO, UM, ADD ON TO COMMISSIONER ROMERO. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET WITH THE DEVELOPER AND EITHER THE CROWN RIDGE MASTER ASSOCIATION OR YOUR OWN ASSOCIATION AND HAMMER OUT SOME KIND OF CONCESSIONS AND, UH, GET THAT EASEMENT INTO PLACE. GET ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT THE, THE DEVELOPER'S WILLING TO DO. YOU NEED TO GET THAT IN WRITING SO IT CAN BE ENFORCED BECAUSE ONCE WE PASS THE ZONING, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ENFORCE ANY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE DISCUSSED TODAY. IT WOULD BE UP TO THE ASSOCIATION TO ENFORCE ANYTHING THAT'S AGREED UPON BETWEEN THE PARTIES. ONE COMMISSIONER ROMERO, CAN I JUST HAVE STAFF, UM, LET US KNOW WHEN, UH, THIS GOES TO COUNCIL. OCTOBER 3RD IS WHEN IT'S SCHEDULED. OCTOBER 3RD. OKAY. SO WE DO HAVE A LONG TIME BEFORE THAT AND YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE BEEN CLEAR ABOUT THINGS YOU NEED TO TALK TO. OH, SORRY. I APOLOGIZE. IT'S ACTUALLY SEPTEMBER 19TH THAT IT'S SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 19TH. OKAY. LITTLE LESS TIME. UM, SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, YOU WILL HAVE TIME TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, LATA IS HERE FROM DISTRICT EIGHT OFFICE, AND I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA BE ON THAT AND GET THAT CONSERVATION EASEMENT, UM, PINNED DOWN. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, WE'RE READY FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR APPROVAL. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER HEAD. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE. AYE. MADAM CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER TWO, [2 19-6442 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700169 ERZD (Council District 9): A request for a change in zoning from "QD CD S MSAO-1 MLOD-1 MLR-1 AHOD ERZD " Quarry Camp Bullis Military Sound Attenuation Overlay Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay Edwards Recharge Zone District with a Specific Use Authorization for a Quarry and Conditional Use for Blasting and “MXD MLOD-1 MLR-1 MSAO-1 AHOD ERZD” Mixed Use Camp Bullis Military Sound Attenuation Overlay Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay Edwards Recharge Zone District to "MXD MLOD-1 MLR-1 MSAO-1 AHOD ERZD" Mixed Use Camp Bullis Military Sound Attenuation Overlay Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay Edwards Recharge Zone District on 279.745 acres out of NCB 17701, generally located at 4939 North Loop 1604 West. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA2019-11600046) (Patricia Franco, Planner (210) 207-5876, patricia.franco@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department).] PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. PATRICIA FRANCO ZONING GENERALLY, I'M SORRY, I HAD A HALLS GENERALLY, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 49 39 NORTH LOOP 1604 WEST ITEM TWO IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM QD M X D TO M X D 10. NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. ONE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THE SATO CREEK CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF ANY LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE EAST OR TO THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE SAS REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE SAS REPRESENTATIVE? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. UH, MIKE BARR WITH THE RESOURCE PROTECTION DIVISION AND THE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM. I'M HERE TO PRESENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ZONING CASE Z 20 19 1 0 7 0 0 1 6 9. [01:15:02] UH, THIS IS A PROPOSED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON NORTHWEST, UH, MILITARY HIGHWAY. THE TRACT IS CLASSIFIED AS CATEGORY ONE PROPERTY, UH, AND IS LOCATED WITHIN AN ABANDONED ROCK QUARRY. UH, NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES ARE LOCATED ON THE SITE. UH, PATE DAWSON DID A GEOLOGIC ASSESSMENT IN NOVEMBER OF 2018. UM, A WATER POLLUTION ABATEMENT PLAN WAS SUBMITTED ALSO WHEN THE GEOLOGIC ASSESSMENT WAS DONE IN 2018. AND THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE OVERALL ROGERS RANCH MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN CLAUSE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT BASED ON THE PROVISIONS WITHIN THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIS REPORT. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES. CAROLINE MCDONALD WITH BROWN ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PECAN SUITE 1360 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. COULD YOU GO TO THE M X D SITE PLAN PLEASE? SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, UH, WE BROUGHT A ZONING CASE BACK IN 2016 FOR THE ENTIRE 440 ACRE QUARRY, UH, LOCATED UP ON NORTHWEST MILITARY DRIVE. UH, WE ENDED UP LIMITING THE REZONING TO THE SOUTHERN HALF AT A LATER DATE FOR APPROXIMATELY 220 ACRES. SO WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY REQUESTING A REZONING OF THE NORTHERN HALF. IT'S CURRENTLY QD AND WE ARE REQUESTING AN M X D WITH USES PERMITTED IN R FOUR, R SIX, AND C TWO R. IT IS, UH, CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT WAS REZONED TWO YEARS AGO AND WITH THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THERE IS AN ASSOCIATED PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO. OKAY. UM, OKAY. THAT'S UP. . COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. UH, CAROLINE, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAS. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. UM, CAROLINE, UH, SO WE'VE DONE THIS PROJECT BELOW. IT'S GONE THROUGH A LOT OF EYES IN DIFFERENT WAYS. COULD YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT, DID YOU DO A TIA AND WHAT THAT TIA THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS HAD SAID? YES. SO THIS WILL BE A SLIGHT UPTICK IN TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT IS A QUARRY. RIGHT NOW THERE'S SEVERAL 18 WHEELERS GOING UP AND DOWN NORTHWEST MILITARY, UH, HIGHWAY. HOWEVER, OUR CLIENT HAS, YOU KNOW, BEEN DEVELOPING ROGERS RANCH FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS AND HAS BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH J B S A, UM, BECAUSE AN UPTICK IN TRAFFIC ON THIS ROAD WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON, UH, CAMP BULLIS. SO, UH, T I A WAS DONE AND THERE WILL BE, UH, TWO POINTS OF ACCESS HERE. I CAN GET THIS TO WORK. UH, THE MAJOR ACCESS POINT WILL COME OUT ONTO NORTHWEST, UH, MILITARY HIGHWAY. THERE IS A LOOP THAT LOOPS DOWN TO COME DOWN LIKE THIS. AND THEN THERE IS AN AC OR MAYBE ACCESS POINT RIGHT HERE. UM, SO J B S A FOUND THERE WAS NO ADVERSE IMPACT, UH, AS TO THEIR OPERATIONS. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. UM, YOU HAVE AN R FOUR AND R SIX, UM, AND THE R SIX IS GOING TO BE UP ALONGSIDE OR PARALLEL, I GUESS WITH THE SATO CREEK TRAIL. COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? YEAH, SO THE, AS STATED BEFORE, THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE MOST OF ROGER'S RANCH AND PART OF THAT, UH, WAS A DEDICATION OF AROUND 40 TO 50 ACRES FOR THE SATO CREEK TRAIL THAT WILL COME UP LIKE THIS LOOP AROUND AND THEN MAKE A CONNECTION. UM, SO THE R SIX WILL BE ALONG THE RIM OF THE QUARRY, UH, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH CONSISTENT WITH HOW THEY DEVELOPED, UH, THE ALAMO QUARRY AS WELL. UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. UM, COMMISSIONER SIPES. THANK THIS. THIS IS A CURIOSITY QUESTION, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT. AND THAT IS, UM, [01:20:01] SAW, STATED THERE WAS NO, UM, SENSITIVE FEATURES. THANK YOU. BUT MY QUESTION IS, AS FAR AS A STORM WATER DRAINAGE, IS THAT ALL GONNA BE HANDLED, IS ALL PIPED OUT SOMEHOW? THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA REMAIN ON SITE. SO THERE WILL BE, UH, A, THERE IS A W P A P, BUT THERE WILL BE A, A LARGE DETENTION POND UP HERE ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, OF THE QUARRY WHERE IT WILL HOLD AND RETAIN A LOT OF THAT WATER. AND THEN IT WILL, IT WILL TRICKLE OUT. GREAT. UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, SO THEN I'LL TURN IT BACK TO COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. SO, YOU KNOW, AS A LAND SURVEYOR, WE LOOK AT LAND IN ALL KINDS OF WAYS, UM, FOR A LONG TIME. AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN ART FORM TO ME TO SEE, UM, SOMETHING LIKE A QUARRY BECOME A RESIDENCE, A NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ABANDONED WILL NOW BE ON THE TAX ROLL. AND I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING TOO. UM, SO FOR CASE NUMBER TWO, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ANY DISCUSSION? UH, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. UM, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. UM, WE'RE READY FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER HEAD? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? YES. MADAM CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSES. GOOD AFTERNOON. MICHAEL PEPE [3. 19-6494 (Continued from 08/20/19) ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700140 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "O-2 AHOD" High Rise Office Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lots 29-31, the south 116 feet of Lot 14, Lot 15, and Lot 16, Block 9, NCB 2947, located at 3201 South Gevers Street. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA2019-11600049) (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] PLANNERS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THIS IS ITEM THREE, LOCATED AT 3 2 0 1. SOUTH AVERS IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM OH TWO TO C TWO 50. NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION. THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS NOTIFIED BUT HAS NOT RESPONDED. STAFF HAS NOT FOUND ADVERSE, LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPING PATTERN IN THIS SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M CYNTHIA PUENTE AND THE ADDRESS IS 32 0 1 SOUTH GS UM, HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE COME TO AN AGREEMENT. UH, I BELIEVE ONE OR TWO ARE HERE TO, TO SPEAK ON THIS TODAY. PARDON ME? DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT NOW TOO? FOR THE, IN WHAT IT IS THAT I'M REQUESTING? I'M SORRY. UM, FOR THE NA PROGRAM, I DID, I DID PRESENT AN AMENDMENT TO THEM. UM, A STATEMENT BASICALLY GUARANTEEING THAT MYSELF OR MY HEIRS WERE NOT IN INTENDING TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND WE DON'T INTEND TO DO ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE NOT, UH, COMFORTABLE WITH. WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING THE RESTRICTIONS THEY WOULD LIKE US TO PUT IN. AND I'M IN, I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M SORRY. UM, DID YOU WANNA MAKE A FORMAL CHANGE FOR THE, UH, TO SEE TWO NA TO TAG THE NA ONTO THE YES. OKAY. DOES SHE HAVE TO SAY THAT OR IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. OKAY. WONDERFUL. OKAY, WELL IF YOU'LL STICK AROUND. WE'LL, OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. UM, ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK CLINTON BLOOMBERG? I AM CLINTON BLOOMBERG, 9 0 1 VANDERBILT, UH, THAT'S SEVERAL HUNDRED YARDS AWAY FROM THIS LOCATION. I HAVE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ALL MY LIFE. I'M 79 YEARS OF AGE. UH, THIS HAS GONE FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, GRADUALLY DEVELOPING, UH, THAT CORRIDOR ON DEAVERS IS PRESENTLY DEVELOPING INTO A BUSINESS TYPE OF THING. I'M A MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION AND INITIALLY EVERY PERSON [01:25:01] I TALKED TO WAS AGAINST THIS, UH, I WAS AGAINST IT. ALSO, AT THE LAST MEETING, I SPOKE UP AGAINST THIS ISSUE. I'VE GOT A LETTER WITH ME AND, AND, AND I'VE BEEN WITH STAFF MEMBERS OF THE CITY, UH, OF DISTRICT THREE AND ALSO THE, UH, APPLICANT. AND I'M, I'M IN AN AGREEMENT NOW WITH THE AMENDMENTS AND I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GONNA BE DOCUMENTED, BUT THERE'S AN, A WRITTEN AGREEMENT THAT I, I WILL AGREE TO. SO I'LL WITHDRAW THE OPPOSITION THAT I HAD AT THE LAST MEETING. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THAT SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. OKAY. UM, MS. PUENTE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY OR YOU'RE GOOD? OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, SO WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP FOR, UM, QUESTIONS. UH, NOW, UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET MY COMMISSIONERS, UH, START. THIS IS ACTUALLY A DISTRICT THREE CASE. UM, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. UM, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, UM, WE IN FACT DID HAVE A MEETING ON, UH, SATURDAY, UM, WITH THE APPLICANT. AND, UM, I THINK IT WAS AT LEAST PROBABLY SEVEN TO NINE, UH, A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBERS. THEN I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING ON, ON YOUR THREE DAY WEEKEND . AND WE ALSO HAD, UM, WE APPRECIATE, UH, STAFF MS. CATHERINE HERNANDEZ SACRIFICING HER WEEKEND AND ALSO, UH, CHRIS VIA, UH, COUNCILWOMAN VIA GRANT'S OFFICE, UM, AS WELL WHO HELPED COORDINATE THAT MEETING. AND SO I BELIEVE THAT, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK, UM, HARD AND, UM, I BELIEVE EVERYTHING SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE TIED UP AND BY THE TIME WE GET TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR CASE, UH, FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. UM, THANK YOU AS AMENDED. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, UM, APPROVAL WITH THE AMENDMENT OF NA AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HEAD? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. MADAM CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO WORKED HARD . I MARK AVI PLANNER [4. 19-6417 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700145 CD (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from “I-1 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD” General Industrial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to “C-1 CD MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD” Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for Motor Vehicle Sales (Full Service) on Lot 11 and 12, Block 6, NCB 3163, located at 2234 and 2238 South Laredo Street. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Plan Amendment PA2019-11600039) (Mirko Maravi, Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS CASE, UH, NUMBER C DASH 20 19 1 0 7 0 0 1 4 5 CD LOCATED AT 22 34 22 38 SOUTH LAREDO STREET. REQUEST CHANGE OF ZONING TO FROM I TWO, UH, HAVE INDUSTRIAL TO C ONE WITH CD LIKE COMMERCIAL WITH SPECIFIC, UH, SPECIFIC USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES. 34 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS. 11. RETURN IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION. CALLING GARDEN'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. NO RESPONSE FROM THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND FIVE OTHER NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS IN SUPPORT STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO ZONING CHANGE. THE PROPOSED ZONING, UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USE IS NOT SUITABLE FOR MID-BLOCK NOR PREDOMINANTLY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? IS RAMIREZ AND I'M IN REPRESENTATION OF MY DAD, JUAN RAMIREZ. UM, I BELIEVE THE ADDRESS IS 2234 AND 2238. UM, SOUTH LAREDO. UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THIS, UM, OH, THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW. , UH, OKAY, GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER BUS MATE. YEAH, AND, AND JUST FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S EDIFICATION, UM, IT TURNS OUT THAT THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL LOTS THAT ARE, THAT DO NOT FACE SOUTH LAREDO DIRECTLY, BUT SHOULD BE PART OF THIS PROJECT. AND SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE THEM THERE JUST DIRECTLY BEHIND, UH, ON, AND I CAN'T READ THAT FAR. I NEED TO GET NEW GLASSES, GENE STREET. UM, AND SO THOSE TWO PARCELS RIGHT BEHIND THE TWO PARCELS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COVERED TODAY, I THINK NEED TO BE PART OF [01:30:01] THIS PROJECT. I THINK STAFF AGREES WITH THAT. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, WE'RE POSTPONING THIS MATTER TODAY. UM, THANK YOU. OKAY. OH, YOU CAN SIT. UM, SO, UM, SO WE'RE GONNA OFFICIALLY MAKE THAT A, DOES THAT HAVE TO BE A MOTION? NO MA'AM. THERE'S NO MOTION. IF IT'S POSTPONED, THAT'S FINE. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO INDICATE THAT THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND ARE HERE. SO IT'S AT THE PLEASURE OF, OF THE CHAIR IF YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN. OKAY. SO, UM, LET ME JUST REITERATE THAT FOR THE AUDIENCE, THIS CASE HAS BEEN POSTPONED, BUT IF THERE IS SOMEONE WHO WOULD STILL LIKE TO SPEAK, THEY ARE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO DO SO. SO, UM, DID YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THEIR NAMES? KEN BROWN, FOLLOWED BY DEBORAH MCCLEARY AND THEN MARK GROSS. OH, I'M SORRY. I'M LOOKING AT NUMBER FIVE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM FOUR. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, , I BELIEVE WE'RE ON, UH, FOR CASE NUMBER FIVE, THE 90 10 TESORO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MICHAEL PEPPY PLANNER [5. 19-6473 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700146 (Council District 10): A request for a change in zoning from “I-1 AHOD” General Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to “L AHOD” Light Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 14, Block 4, NCB 12574, located at 9010 Tesoro Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@SanAntonio.gov, Development Services Department)] DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THIS IS ITEM FIVE, LOCATED AT 90 10. TESORO IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM I ONE TWO L EIGHT. NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. NONE WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR. TWO WERE RETURNED IN OPPOSITION. THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ASSOCIATION STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KEVIN. I'M THE OWNER OF 90 10 TESERO DRIVE. UM, I BELIEVE THIS IS AN I ONE, SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT A L AND I'M TRYING TO OPEN A CAR DEALERSHIP. UH, THAT WOULD BE MY SECOND LOCATION. I DO HAVE ANOTHER CAR DEALERSHIP THAT I OWN. THE REASON WE CHOSE THAT LOCATION IS BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO THE AIRPORT. WE SELL A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE LUXURY TO OUT OF A STATE. SO THEY FLY IN AND IT'S PRETTY CLOSER. AND, UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE DID THAT. AND, UM, UH, I DID TALK TO, UM, CONS, COUNCILMAN ABOUT THE SITUATION AND EVERYTHING. WE AGREED ON THE TERMS OF HOW HE WANTS IT DONE, HOW THE BUILDING SHOULD BE, HOW THE FENCE LIGHTING SIGNS, EVERYTHING. AND SO WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT. HOWEVER, IT SEEMS LIKE MY NEIGHBORS BEHIND ME ARE NOT HAPPY. AND THE REASON IS THEY'RE U THEY ARE USING MY EASEMENT. LIKE THEY MADE AN EASEMENT FOR THEMSELVES THROUGH THE PROPERTY. SO THEY HAVE A SURVEY SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO SUPPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IN THE TITLE COMMITMENT, NOTHING. SO THERE'S UNRECORDED AGREEMENT THEY HAVE, AND I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A COURT ISSUE. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CONCERNED. AND IF YOU LOOK AT MY PLAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN FORWARD TO, WELL THIS IS GONNA BE THE CAR DEALERSHIP RIGHT HERE. IT'S VERY NARROW. THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO OVER THERE. JUST PARKED CARS. AND THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO LOT 13, LOT 14 HAS ENTRANCE FROM BROADWAY. THEY, THEY'RE SEPARATE, BUT IT'S OPEN. SO THEY'RE USING THIS ENTRANCE TO GO TO THEIR BUILDING. AND WE ARE RIGHT HERE. SO WHAT I DID ON THE PLAN, I JUST LEFT THIS OPEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. I'M NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING WITH IT. IT'S JUST OPEN. AND WE HAVE CUSTOMER PARKING RIGHT HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN PARK RIGHT HERE AND WE'RE GONNA PARK THE CARS ON THIS SIDE. SO IT'S GONNA BE A SMALLER QUALITY DEALERSHIP. IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE BUY HERE, PAY HERE, JUNK CARS KIND OF THING. UH, SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS. AND SO WE'RE JUST GONNA LEAVE IT OPEN. IT'S NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS IN THE BACK. UH, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M, UNFORTUNATELY I'M NOT GONNA GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO IT. IT, BUT I'M GONNA LET THEM USE IT. THAT'S REALLY ALL. IT'S UM, [01:35:01] SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS. SYLVIA, YOU'LL STAY NEARBY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. AND EVIDENTLY WE HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. FIRST PERSON I HAVE IS KEN BROWN. MY NAME IS KEN BROWN, ONE 12 EAST PECAN SUITE 1360. UH, VERY RECENTLY REPRESENT, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, TO THE BEHIND THE DEALERSHIP. UM, I THINK THERE IS QUITE A QUESTION AS TO, THERE IS NO RECORDED EASEMENT, BUT WE BELIEVE THERE IS A PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK, WE WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT. UH, HE SAYS HE HE'LL GIVE US ACCESS, BUT HE IS NOT GONNA GIVE US THE RIGHTS TO DO IT, WHICH MEANS WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS UNLESS WE HAVE THE RIGHT. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK SOMETHING OUT AND, AND PUT IT IN WRITING INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING A SORT OF A HANDSHAKE OR A VERBAL AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN USE THE PROPERTY. WE BELIEVE WE HAVE THE RIGHT ALREADY. IT'S AN INGRESS EGRESS ISSUE. UH, I THINK THAT WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT IN TWO WEEKS. SO WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING A TWO WEEK, UH, CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT PERSON IS DEBORAH MCCLARY, FOX LEVI MCCLEARY ENTERPRISES ON WHEN I SIGNED IN, I MISTAKENLY PUT MY HOME ADDRESS. BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 89 34 AND 89 38 BROADWAY. AND I'M OPPOSED TO THE ZONING CHANGE. IT WILL AFFECT OUR BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PROPERTY. WE'RE ADJACENT TO THIS, DIRECTLY ADJACENT, AND IT WILL, THEY WILL HAVE PEOPLE TESTING CARS COMING THROUGH, DISTURBING OUR CUSTOMER. THE CUSTOMERS ARE THE PEOPLE WE LEASE TO AND IT'LL BE, IT, IT WILL NOT BE GOOD. ALSO, WILL YOU PLEASE CHECK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE AGAINST IT? I KNOW THREE THAT WERE AGAINST IT. NORMA JEAN LOVINGS SENT IN AND AGAINST BY EMAIL. KENNETH SUGARMAN WITH RIGHT WAY, WHO IS AT, UH, 90, UH, 10, I THINK BROADWAY. IT'S JUST OUT ACROSS TO SORO. AND THEN, UM, MARK GROSSMAN ALSO IS OPPOSED. AND WE ALL, ALL THREE OF THOSE ENTITIES VOTED AGAINST. AND, UH, MR. SUGARMAN AT RIGHT WAY DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, UH, ANY UH, MAIL FROM Y'ALL CONCERNING THIS. THANK YOU AND MARK GROSS. HI, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S MARK GROSS. I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 9 0 1 8 TESORO, UH, DIRECTLY BEHIND, UH, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY 25 YEARS AGO. I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY 25 YEARS AGO. I HAVE A SURVEY THAT SHOWS THE, A VOLUME IN PAGE OF A RECORDED EASEMENT, WHICH NEVER GOT RECORDED. TITLE COMPANY'S MISSED IT, I GUESS TRYING TO WORK OUT SOMETHING WITH THE NEW OWNER. UM, BUT, UH, IT'S A 40 FOOT LOT WITH A 17 FOOT EASEMENT ON IT. I, HE'S GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME USING THAT TO SELL CARS. IF I TAKE UP 40 FEET OF THE EASEMENT, UM, LIKE MR. BROWN SAID, WE'RE JUST ASKING TO FOR SOME TIME TO WORK OUT A DEAL. UM, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL THAT'S SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. OKAY. UM, IF I COULD HAVE, UM, THE APPLICANT BACK, UM, FOR A REBUTTAL. OKAY, SO, UM, JUST TO MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR, YOU KNOW, UM, IF YOU GO FROM I ONE TO L YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THE STUFF IN I ONE THAT YOU DON'T WANT THERE, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE IF I CANNOT USE IT MYSELF, I HAVE TO RENT IT. SO I RENT IT. FOR EXAMPLE, IT COULD BE GRAVEL AND DIRT CELLS. YOU KNOW, I ONE, SO I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. BUT IF I HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST LEAVE THE PROPERTY THERE WITHOUT NO USE AND THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION. OR I CAN JUST MAKE IT A WHOLESALE LOT DOING THE SAME THING. PARK CARS, OFFICE DEALERS ARE GONNA COME LOOK AT IT. IT'S NOT TO THE PUBLIC. AND I CAN USE IT AS A STORAGE. I'M NOT REALLY SELLING IT. SO IT'S A WHOLESALE LOT. I CAN DO IT AS IN THE I ONE, UH, BUT I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT. I WANNA BE THERE MYSELF, MAKE SURE THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IS TAKEN CARE OF. NEIGHBORS ARE HAPPY AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBOR IN THE BACK, I SAT DOWN WITH HIM TWO TIMES. EVERY TIME WE TRIED TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT, HE SAYS HE WILL CALL ME. NEVER DOES. [01:40:01] SO I, I, I'M TRYING TO WORK IT OUT WITH HIM. SO I TOLD HIM, JUST BUY IT OR, YOU KNOW, LET'S AGREE ON THE EASEMENT, WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS. MY INTENTION IS NOT TO BLOCK THEM FROM THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY PROBLEM. I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING OVER THERE. I CANNOT JUST LEAVE IT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN USING IT FOR 25 YEARS. SO, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID THAT, THAT'S THE COURT ISSUE MATTER. IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT THE ZONING. THAT'S WHY WE SEPARATED THE TWO, TWO SIDES. ONE SIDE, WE JUST PARK CUSTOMERS IN OFFICE, ONE SIDE, WE JUST PARK THE CARS. SIMPLE AS THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT ANYTHING FOR HIM TO GO TO THE BACK, YOU KNOW, UNLESS HE WANTS TO JUST GO TO THE COURT AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I'M, I'M, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. SO I'M WILLING TO SIT DOWN AGAIN AND IF SEE THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING 'CAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER SOMETHING 'CAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS. AND SO ONCE THIS PASSES OR NOT PASSES ON NOTE, THEN WE GO WITH THE COUNCILMAN AND THEN WE DECIDE OVER THERE. SO, UM, UM, BUT I'M WILLING TO MAKE THEM HAPPY, WHOEVER, YOU KNOW, IS OPPOSED TO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, IN THE ABSENCE OF A DISTRICT 10, UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, PLEASE, UM, APPLICANT, PLEASE. SO AS WE DON'T HAVE A DISTRICT 10 REPRESENTATIVE TODAY, UM, IT'S JUST, SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION MOVING FORWARD. THERE ARE SOME MAYBE HICCUPS POSSIBLY TO WORK PAST. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THEY MAY HAVE RETAINED THE SERVICES OF BROWN AND ORTIZ. SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO JUST HAVE A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE, HOPEFULLY IRON OUT THESE ISSUES AND THEN YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD? YEAH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT. BUT THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU DON'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT, IT STILL DOESN'T MATTER. THIS IS MY PROPERTY, MY RIGHT AND EVERYTHING. IF HE IS NOT AGREEING TO THIS, OH, HE HAS TO TAKE IT TO THE COURT, HAS SOMETHING SAID THAT'S SEPARATE, I'M WILLING TO WAIT ANOTHER TWO WEEKS. BUT IF WE DON'T GET TO AN AGREEMENT AND WHAT'S THE POINT? YOU KNOW, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO GET TO AN AGREEMENT AND WHETHER HE SAYS YES OR NO, OR I SAY YES OR NO, DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. I'M NOT GONNA GIVE THEM JUST THE RIGHT TO DO IT. I'M LETTING THEM USING IT, BUT I'M NOT GONNA JUST PUT IT IN WRITING. THIS IS YOURS BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN USING IT FOR 25 YEARS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY RIGHTS, BUT LET 'EM USE IT. THAT'S REALLY ALL IT'S, AND IF THEY WANT TO AGREE OTHERWISE BY THE PROPERTY OR PAY ME SOMETHING FOR THE EASEMENT OR WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS, I'M WILLING TO DO IT. NOT A PROBLEM. EITHER WAY, IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT THE BUSINESS OR THEIR BUSINESS TO THE WAY I PLANNED IT. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA BE A HUGE CAR DEALERSHIP, IT'S LIKE 15, 20 CARS OVER THERE. OKAY. SO, BUT YOU'RE WILLING TO ALLOW FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, TRY TO WORK IT OUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO. YES. OKAY, GREAT. UM, I CAN OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY WANTS TO ASK QUESTIONS. SURE. ALRIGHT. SO, UM, IS THERE ANYONE, ANY COMMISSIONERS ON THE LEFT WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ON MY RIGHT? QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER SIPES, A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS PROPERTY ON, ON BEAR COUNTY ON B C AD, IT'S, IT SAYS THAT IT'S A NON BUILDABLE LOT. DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? SO WHAT PART OF WHAT OUR REVIEW INCLUDED WAS A LITTLE BIT INTO THE PLATING HISTORY OF IT. AND SO I BELIEVE WHAT YOU MIGHT BE SEEING WHEN YOU SEE NON BUILDABLE LOT IS A FORMER FRAGMENTED PORTION OF THAT WHOLE LOT. IT, UM, IT PREVIOUSLY WAS SPLIT INTO TWO. UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHY, IF IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS ACCESS OR, OR NOT, OR IF IT WAS JUST SOLD SEPARATELY AT ONE POINT IT WAS, IT, IT WAS TWO LOTS. AND SPEAKING WITH PLATTING FOLKS HERE, NOW THAT IS UNITED UNDER ONE OWNER, IT SHOULD BE BUILDABLE FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT. AND, BUT THEY SAID THAT MOST LIKELY IT WAS CONSIDERED UNBUILDABLE BECAUSE IT WAS SPLIT INTO TWO, BUT NOW IT'S REUNITED. SO THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, UM, STAFF, CAN I HAVE THE NEXT COMMISSIONER DATE FOR THE NEXT MEETING? IT'S THE 17TH, SEPTEMBER 17TH. OKAY. I AM GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM FIVE TO SEPTEMBER 17TH. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, TO CONTINUE THE CASE TILL SEPTEMBER 17TH [01:45:01] AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. ALL RIGHT. UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? YES. COMMISSIONER HEAD? YES. MADAM CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSES. GOOD AFTERNOON [7. 19-6463 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700159 (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "RM-4 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Mixed Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District on the east 35 feet of Lot 19 and the west 30.4 feet of Lot 20, Block 41, NCB 9601, located at 2543 Cincinnati Avenue, 2545 Cincinnati Avenue, 2547 Cincinnati Avenue, and 2549 Cincinnati Avenue. Staff recommends Denial. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] COMMISSIONERS. MERCEDES REVA, SENIOR PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 2 9 7 9. LOCATED AT 2 5 4 3 2 5 4 5 2 5 4 7 AND 2 5 4 9 CINCINNATI AVENUE. AS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM R FOUR TO RMM 4 29 NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET TO ARE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THE UNIVERSITY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA AS IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CAUSE CROWDING AND INCREASED DENSITY, WHICH IS UNCHARACTERISTIC OF THIS ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. MAY I HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES. MY NAME IS JERRY ARRADONDO AND I RESIDE AT 29 0 2, UH, HILLCREST 7 8 2 0 1. I'M HERE TO, UH, PRESENT, UH, THE CASE FOR THE APPLICANT. UH, AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS ME ALSO. SO, AND I'VE OWNED THESE PROPERTIES FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS IN THE PAST. TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, I'VE BEEN ON THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOR ST. MARY'S UNIVERSITY AND IN TRYING TO TIE ST. MARY'S UNIVERSITY INTO WOODLAWN LAKE AND HAVE A CORRIDOR IN BETWEEN, THE CITY AND US HAVE WORKED TOGETHER OVER THE YEARS TO TAKE THE STREETS AND START PAVING 'EM AND, AND BUILDING UP THE STREETS. ST. MARY'S UNIVERSITY, WE SPENT OVER $5 MILLION IN JUST LANDSCAPING ALONE FENCING IT AND ALLOWING THE NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE ABLE TO USE OUR FACILITIES AT ST. MARY'S, INCLUDING BEING ABLE TO GO TO BASEBALL GAMES AND BASKETBALL GAMES AT NO CHARGE WHATSOEVER. AND SO THIS INVOLVEMENT THAT I'VE HAD WITH ST. MARY'S, AND OF COURSE I ALSO AM A GRADUATE OF CENTRAL CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL AND ST. MARY'S UNIVERSITY. IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, THE ONE THING THAT IS REALLY CONSISTENT HERE IS CINCINNATI STREET ITSELF IS, FOR THE MOST PART, MULTI-FAMILY. WHEN YOU GET BEHIND CINCINNATI INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN YOU GET INTO SINGLE-FAMILY. I HAVE OWNED AND, AND I DO OWN SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN THE SINGLE FAMILY AREA. I ALSO OWN PROPERTIES ON CINCINNATI STREET, WHICH ARE THE DUPLEXES. WHAT WE HAVEN'T HAD IN, UH, ON CINCINNATI OR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE MOST PART, IS NEW CONSTRUCTION. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION WILL START AND WE HOPE TO HAVE A DOMINO THEORY WORK WHERE PEOPLE START CLEANING UP THEIR, THEIR PROPERTIES, ESPECIALLY TO GO DOWN CINCINNATI. THERE'S A BUNCH OF PROPERTIES, UM, THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP AND FIXED UP. AND WE HOPE TO GET THAT STARTED NOW. WE ALSO MET WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND, UH, THE, THE, OUR MEETINGS WERE HELD AT THE, UH, COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE AND FROM, AS A RESULT OF THE, THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD, AND I SAY MEETINGS MULTIPLE, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AS A UNANIMOUS VOTE. I HAVE, UH, TO HAND TO Y'ALL A LETTER OF S A LETTER OF SUPPORT. SO THERE, THERE'S A LETTER OF SUPPORT WITH, UM, AND ACTUALLY THERE'S BEEN NO OPPOSITION WHATSOEVER FROM, FROM ANYONE, UH, ON THIS. IN ADDITION TO THE LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE ALSO HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE, UH, [01:50:01] PRESIDENT OF ST. MARY'S UNIVERSITY, WHICH WE MET WITH HIM AND HIS STAFF. AND AGAIN, THAT, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU A COPY OF. ITS SO, UH, WITH THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT WE'VE PUT INTO WORKING, UH, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, UH, SOME GOOD NEW HOUSING, MULTI-FAMILY ALONG CINCINNATI STREET. AGAIN, THAT BEING BLESS YOU, THAT BEING ON THE MAIN CORRIDOR CONNECTING ST. MARY'S UNIVERSITY OVER TO WOODLAWN LAKE. AND SINCE WE OWN SEVERAL PROPERTIES, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ALSO AND SINGLE FAMILY MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT THAT CANNOT AFFORD TO GET A MORTGAGE. SO WE HAVE OUR OWN MORTGAGE COMPANY AND WE DO PROVIDE LOANS FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET, GET A MORTGAGE ALSO. SO WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IS MULTIFAMILY. WE'RE ALSO VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IS SINGLE FAMILY. AND SO EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT FROM THE, UH, STAFF, IT, UH, IT SAYS THAT THE, UH, AREAS PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH IS TRUE, BUT NOT ON CINCINNATI. IT'S TRUE BEYOND CINCINNATI, BUT NOT ON CINCINNATI. AND SO, UM, IT ALSO SAYS IN THE REPORT THAT IT, UH, IS NOT ADVERSELY GONNA AFFECT THE AREA. SO WITH THAT, I ASK FOR YOUR, UH, APPROVAL FOR OUR ZONING CASE TODAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ANYWAY, ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER SIPES QUESTION FOR STAFF AND THAT IS, UM, UNFORTUNATELY MY ZONING MAP ONLINE IS LOCKING UP, SO I CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER FOR THIS. IS THERE, UM, EXAMPLES OF OTHER RMM FOUR IN THE AREA NOT DIRECTLY ADJACENT? SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN, THERE ISN'T ANY RMM. THERE'S THAT ONE RM FOUR AT 2 6 0 7 CINCINNATI, BUT NOT ON THAT BLOCK PHASE. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS PROPERTY BENEFITS FROM THE B TWO R FOUR CONVERSION, WHICH IS WHY IT HAS DUPLEXES ON IT NOW. OKAY. THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION, BUT THANK YOU. UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? MEYER, WRIGHT? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER LEFT. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER SIPES. ALRIGHT, UM, I'M GONNA RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH STAFF ON THIS ONE. UM, AND I, I KNOW, UM, THE WAY, AND, AND I'M GONNA EXPLAIN WHY. UM, I LIVE RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THIS AREA. UM, AND, UH, MY SON ATTENDED SUMMER SCHOOL THINGS AT, UH, FOR U T S A AT ST. MARY'S, WHICH I KNOW SOUNDS WEIRD, BUT THAT'S JUST HOW IT WORKED. UM, AND THE LOCATION OF THESE HOMES WITH THAT LITTLE ARC, I KNOW STAFF WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, PARKING TRAFFIC DENSITY. I FEEL THAT THAT LITTLE CURVE ACTUALLY MAKES IT A REALLY GOOD LOCATION FOR MORE THAN, UH, A DUPLEX. UM, IF THIS WAS DOWN THE STREET A LITTLE BIT MORE WHERE IT WAS NOT SEPARATED IN A WAY, UM, I I WOULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH STAFF. UM, BUT FOR THE CASE, FOR CASE NUMBER SEVEN AND MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. SECOND. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? WELL, I THINK IT'S ALSO A GOOD LOCATION AND I WOULD AGREE. COMMISSIONER SIPES, UM, FOR THE DUPLEXES, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING OVER THERE. I MEAN, PEOPLE REALLY LIKE LIVING IN THESE SMALL NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT IS DENSITY TO ONE IS NOT TO ANOTHER. UM, IT'S COMMUNITY, ISN'T IT? IT'S, IT'S, THEY HAVE A FAMILY ELEMENT THAT I'M ALMOST JEALOUS OF SOMETIMES DOWN IN THESE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS. SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT INTO THAT AND I WILL SUPPORT THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. [01:55:02] UM, I ALSO WANNA SUPPORT THIS MOTION AND SAY THANK YOU. UM, I WENT TO ST. MARY'S LAW SCHOOL AND I LIVE IN MONTE VISTA, SO I SPENT THREE YEARS DRIVING DOWN CINCINNATI, UM, TO GET THERE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THAT, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BENEFIT GREATLY FROM SOME NEW CONSTRUCTION AND ALSO KIND OF CREATING WHAT, WHAT TRULY IS A GATEWAY, UM, TO CONNECT THE CITY AS WELL AS THE UNIVERSITY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER HEAD? AYE. MADAM CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. UM, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND I BELIEVE WE WILL BE DOWN, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO WHEN WE, UH, RETURN, I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS, UH, MEETING BACK INTO SESSION AT THREE 10. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. THIS [10. 19-6470 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700163 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "I-1 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" General Industrial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and "C-2 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District on all of Block 1, NCB 2310, located at 1726 West Commerce Street. Statt recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@SanAntonio.gov, Development Services Department)] IS MICHAEL PEPPY PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM 10, LOCATED AT 7 26 WEST COMMERCE IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM C TWO TO AND I ONE TO C 2 32 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR. ONE WAS RETURNED IN OPPOSITION. THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION WAS NOTIFIED BUT HAS NOT RESPONDED. THE PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS NOTIFIED BUT HAS NOT RESPONDED. STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATIONS TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, BUCK BENSON, 7 4 5 EAST MULBERRY, SUITE FIVE 50 FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, AS STAFF INDICATED THERE WAS A PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAS FILED A, UH, LETTER IN OPPOSITION TO THE CASE. I MET WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER BEFORE THE MEETING AND WOULD LIKE SOME TIME TO VISIT WITH THAT OWNER TO SEE IF WE CAN ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE OF THE MATTER. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE JOSEPH CARON, I THINK IT IS. AND JENNIFER NAGER. AFTERNOON. JOSEPH CARON, 2215 WEST SALINAS. UM, I AM A RESIDENT OF THE PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN. UH, I AM ALSO THE, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, BUT I'M SPEAKING ON MY OWN BEHALF AND NOT FOR THE WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. UH, FOR MANY YEARS. UH, THE CITY COUNCIL, DISTRICT FIVE, AND THE WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. OTHER GROUPS HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT ON IN THE WEST SIDE. UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED RIGHT ON THE, UH, COMMERCE STREET, BUENA VISTAS STREET CORRIDOR. UM, IT IS, AS EVERYBODY HAS HEARD A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE HISTORIC GATEWAY TO THE WEST SIDE. UH, WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING ON AT U T S A, THE WEST SIDE CREEKS PROJECTS, UH, COMMERCE STREET BRIDGE THAT IS FUNDED AND IT'S GONNA BE, UH, WORKED ON HERE VERY QUICKLY. I REALLY FEEL LIKE THE GATEWAY TO THE WEST SIDE NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL HELP IN, IN DEVELOPING, UM, BUSINESSES THAT HAVE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THAT AREA. RESIDENTIAL, UM, SMALL COMMERCIAL, UH, SOMETHING THAT WOULD ACTIVATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ARTS DISTRICT COMING IN THERE. ARTS ACTIVITIES, UH, IT'S REALLY KIND OF COMING TO ITS OWN AND REALLY FEEL THAT, UM, THE, UH, THE ZONING HERE IS MAYBE NOT AS APPROPRIATE. MAYBE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. UM, SMALL BUSINESSES. UM, I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH ZONING, BUT THE I D Z, UH, INFILL DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE. OR, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COMMERCIAL, WHICH, UH, IS MORE, UM, I GUESS CONDUCIVE TO SMALLER BUSINESSES AND NOT ANYTHING COMMERCIAL COFFEE SHOP. WE'VE GOT A COFFEE SHOP THERE RIGHT NOW. MAYBE A, A DONUT SHOP, A SMALL CAFE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD, UH, REALLY HELP TO ACTIVATE THIS ONE BLOCK THERE, WHICH IS ON THE CREEKS, WHICH IS, UH, NEAR WAREHOUSE FIVE. THERE'S SOME HISTORIC BUILDINGS THERE. IT'S, UM, THIS PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT BECAUSE IT IS IN SUCH A PRIME LOCATION TO BE, AGAIN, A, [02:00:01] A CORNERSTONE IN THE, UH, THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT. UH, I'M SORRY, THE, THE HISTORIC, UM, GATEWAY TO THE WEST SIDE. UH, SO I'M JUST ASKING TO RECONSIDER, UH, ZONING OPPORTUNITIES, UH, OTHER THAN WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JENNIFER. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I'M JENNIFER NAGER. I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE WAREHOUSE FIVE AT 1333 BUENA VISTA ACROSS THE STREET AND ALSO THE CONTRERAS HISTORIC ICE HOUSE AT 1617 COMMERCE STREET. UM, AT W FIVE WAREHOUSE FIVE, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 20 TENANTS COMPRISED OF YOUNG, CREATIVE ARTISTIC ENTREPRENEURS THAT ARE VERY DEDICATED TO A MORE POSITIVE GROWTH ON THE WEST SIDE, AS WELL AS THE OWNERS. ALSO, WE HAVE HIGH HOPES FOR CONTINUED ARTISTIC GROWTH AS ITS ORIGINAL CULTURE OF THE WEST SIDE HAS, HAS SHOWN THROUGHOUT HISTORY. ADDITIONALLY, MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THIS IS THE ACTUAL SITE OF THE HISTORIC BATTLE OF ALZA, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BATTLES SURROUNDING THE ALAMO. THIS AREA SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE HISTORICALLY RESPONSIBLE AND PRESERVE THIS AND PROMOTED IN THIS WAY. THE CONTRERAS IS ALL SO HISTORIC, WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE RECREATED BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL WEST SIDE CULTURAL HERITAGE OF HOSTING NOT ONLY EXISTING WEST SIDE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO THOSE EXPLORING AND LEARNING THE INCREDIBLE CULTURE HISTORICALLY AND CURRENTLY ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH WE HOPE WILL COME FROM ALL OF THE, UM, CREEK EXPANSION IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS DEDICATED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TOWARD. UM, FOR THE ALLAN CREEK. UH, WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS WILL ALSO PROMOTE TOURISM INTO THIS AREA AS IT CONNECTS THESE WALKWAYS TO THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER. ALSO, WITH 10,000 ADDITIONAL STUDENTS COMING TO U T SS A DOWNTOWN AND NO PLACE TO HOUSE THESE PEOPLE, WE WOULD THINK ZONING. UH, WE WOULD LIKE ZONING TO BE SOMETHING MORE CONDUCIVE TO THOSE STUDENTS, UM, THAT WOULD ATTRACT AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO EXPLORE AND EXPERIENCE THE WEST SIDE CULTURE IN ITS ORIGINAL HERITAGE. NOT AN AUTO ZONE, WHICH COULD BE FOUND IN ANY CORNER, NOT SOMETHING CONSIDERED TO BE THE GATEWAY OF THE WEST SIDE, WHICH THIS AREA HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY REFERRED TO. UH, WE CONSIDER THIS A LOT TO BE EXTREMELY PIVOTAL TOWARDS SPRINGBOARDING, FURTHER BUSINESS GROWTH AND INTEREST IN THIS INCREDIBLE CULTURE THAT WILL EXIST ON THE WEST SIDE. IF WE THAT STILL EXIST ON THE WEST SIDE, IF WE DON'T FEEL A DOWNGRADE IN ZONING, NOR AN AUTO ZONE WILL PROPAGATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THAT SIGN IN TO SPEAK. UH, MR. BENSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH, I, I I HAD REACHED OUT TO THE PRO PROSPECT HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO THE ONE EMAIL ADDRESS I HAD. UM, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T EVEN, OKAY, I'M SORRY. UM, ANYWAY, SO I HAD YES MA'AM, LIKE, SO LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH THESE FOLKS. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. ALRIGHT. GIVEN THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE AND GIVEN HOPEFULLY, UM, GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY, HOPEFULLY THERE CAN BE SOME DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT THE BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY IS, WHAT THE PROPER ZONING IS. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE. UM, YOU LIKE ME TO DO THAT NOW? ALRIGHT, I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS CASE TO THE, UH, SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING IN TWO WEEKS. SECOND. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE AS WELL AS A SECOND. UM, QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. OKAY. QUESTION OR DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER HEAD? YES. MADAM CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSES. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS [15. 19-6445 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700170 CD (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-4 CD AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for four (4) dwelling units on Lot 22, Block 14, NCB 8098, located at 502 Shadwell Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Patricia Franco, Planner (210) 207-5876, patricia.franco@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] LOCATED AT 5 0 2 CHADWELL DRIVE. ITEM 15 AS A REQUEST TO CHANGE ZONING FROM R FOUR [02:05:01] TO R FOUR CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS. 22 NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, FIVE IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE EXISTING R FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BASED ZONING IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED CD ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF ADEN ADDITIONAL DENSITY IN THE AREA WHICH APPEARS APPROPRIATE ON THIS CORNER. LOT STAFF FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YEAH, I'M RYAN ANO, THE OWNER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF 5 0 2 CHADWELL. UM, I HAD APPROACHED THE DONALDSON H O A AND DID NOT GET A REPLY AND HAVE BECOME AWARE IN THE LAST DAY OR TWO THAT A SECOND H O A IS APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE. A REPRESENTATIVE DISCUSSED IN THE HALLWAY THAT IT'D BE BEST DO A CONTINUATION SO THAT I MAY SPEAK WITH THEM AND TRY TO RESOLVE YOU. ANY CONCERNS? OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? GEORGE DELLA GARZA? GEORGE DELLA GARZA. I'M AT, UH, 4 4 3 CHE WHEEL DRIVE, ALTHOUGH ACROSS THE STREET FOR 40 YEARS AND WE WERE JUST HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW I'M ACTUALLY WITH THE JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT I BECAME AWARE OF THIS, UM, THIS MONTH, THIS LAST MONTH. AND, UH, WE'RE, FRANKLY, WE'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTENSITY. IT'S KIND OF A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION. SO WHAT I'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE OWNER IS THAT PERHAPS WE MEET WITH THE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, UM, SHORTLY HAVE THE CONTINUANCE AND IN TWO WEEKS COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THAT OKAY? ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, ANYBODY ELSE? NO MA'AM. COMMISSIONER SIPES? I'LL BE RECOMMENDING A CONTINUANCE AS WELL, BUT, UM, I'LL LET MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ASK ANY QUESTIONS IF THEY HAVE THEM. OH, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, TO STAFF? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION. COULD, COULD YOU ELABORATE MORE ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY THIS MEETS ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN? ARE THIS LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE THAT'S BEEN CARVED UP FOR OTHER HOUSING UNITS INSIDE OF IT? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOU MEAN BY ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. WELL, WE DON'T GO INSIDE THE HOME, UM, BUT IT, IT'S ON THE OUTSIDE, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT IT, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY IN 19, UH, 48 WHEN IT WAS BUILT, UH, IN THE B DISTRICT BY RIDE IT COULD HAVE BEEN A DUPLEX. AND ALSO TO CHIME IN, UH, THERE'S A MIX OF ZONING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY. UH, SO ADDITIONAL DENSITY IS SORT OF THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. I GUESS I'M ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS CASE ALSO HAD CONDOMINIUMS IN THE AREA, BUT YOU WANTED TO, YOU RECOMMENDED THE STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL ON THAT. SO, UH, FOR US, THE SIZE OF THE LOT ON THE PREVIOUS CASE, UM, UH, CREATED A CONCERN FOR US TO ESTABLISH TWO MORE UNITS ON EACH. UM, IN THIS CASE, UH, OUR, OUR ISSUE IS THAT THIS IS AT AN INTERSECTION OF A MINOR ARTERIAL TYPE A AND A LOCAL STREET. UH, SO ADDITIONAL DENSITY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THAT INTERSECTION. UM, IT ARE THEY CURRENTLY, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE MULTI UNITS OPERATING ALREADY WITHIN THIS HOUSE. I WOULD LIKE TO LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THAT. I ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY IN 2015. AT THAT TIME IT WAS A FOUR UNIT, UH, APARTMENT, UH, BUILDING. UM, I HAVE A LETTER HERE FROM THE REALTOR, YOU KNOW, SAYING, YEAH, IT'S R FOUR BUT IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, JUST IT'LL BE GRANDFATHERED IN. SO GIVEN THAT ASSURANCE, I WENT AHEAD AND MADE THE ACQUISITION. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR BACK, HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN A FOUR UNIT, UH, BUILDING, BUT CERTAINLY PRIOR TO MY [02:10:01] PURCHASING IT. SO THE FOUR UNITS ARE ALL CONTAINED IN THIS ONE BUILDING? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS. UM, IF THERE'S, UM, NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER SIPES. ALRIGHT. FOR ITEM NUMBER 15, I AM RECOMMENDING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH. 17TH MEETING. SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ANY DISCUSSIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? UH, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. OKAY. ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER HEAD? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. AYE. MADAM CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 16, [16. 19-6420 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700186 CD (Council District 6): A request for a change in zoning from “C-3 GC-2 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD” General Commercial Highway 151 Gateway Corridor Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to “C-3 CD GC-2 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD” General Commercial Highway 151 Gateway Corridor Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for Animal and Pet Services (outdoor boarding, runs, pens or paddocks permitted) on 1.577 acres on NCB 17643, located in the 1200 Block of Richland Hills Drive. Staff recommends Denial, with an Alternate recommendation. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2019-11600060) (Mirko Maravi, Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] UH, ZONING KZ 20 19 1 0 7 0 0 180 6 ON THE 1200 BLOCK OF RICHMOND HILLS DRIVE TO TO REQUEST TO CHANGE ZONING FROM C THREE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C THREE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR OUTDOOR ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES. HEAD NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. ONE IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION. NO RESPONSE FROM TARA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND JOINT BASE. SAN ANTONIO CONCURRED WITH THE APPLICATION STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOOD LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING EXCHANGE REQUEST. THE OPPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. UH, THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL INTENSITY USE IS NOT SUITABLE FOR, IS ONLY SUITABLE FOR INTERSECTIONS OF EXPRESSWAYS AND MAJOR ARTERIALS WITH THE UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? CAROLINE MCDONALD WITH BROWN ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PECAN HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. I BELIEVE, UH, STAFF DID OFFER UP AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO CD, UH, INSTEAD OF C THREE C D D. SO I DID WALK, WITHDRAW THE PLAN AMENDMENT LAST WEEK AND AM WILLING TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE C TWO CD. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IN THE ITEM OF THE FACT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A DISTRICT SIX SIX COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, PLEASE, UM, QUESTION FOR APPLICANT. COULD YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND? YES, OF COURSE. UH, I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT, UH, WHO WAS A DEVELOPER WHO, UH, DEVELOPS, UH, FOR PET SUITES. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID IN ZONING APPLICATION FOR THEM ABOUT A YEAR AGO. UM, IN DISTRICT ONE. THEY'RE LOCATED, UH, RIGHT OFF FOUR 10. UH, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE SITE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED. SO, UM, PET SUITES IS A PET RESORT WITH GROOMING, UH, BOARDING, UH, DAYCARE FOR CATS AND DOGS. SO, UH, THEY'RE PRIMARILY INSIDE BUT WITH WHERE THERE ARE PLAY AREAS AND BOARDING AREAS. BUT, UH, THEIR BUSINESS MODEL DOES, UM, REQUIRE AN OUTSIDE AREA, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE. UM, ON THE SITE PLAN IT'S JUST UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, SO THEY'RE ESTABLISHED IN LOUISIANA, EAST TEXAS. THERE'S ONE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, BUT IT'S A GREAT PLACE. I TAKE MY DOG, BUT , THEY DO NEED THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE OUTSIDE AREA. THANK YOU. OKAY. WITH THAT I WILL, UM, OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES. SURE. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YEAH, JUST A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF STILL KIND OF OPEN SPACE THAT, UM, ISN'T SHOWN. ARE YOU? I SEE THERE'S THREE PROPOSED PLAY YARDS RIGHT THERE OR WHAT? OPEN SPACE THREE PROPOSED PLAY PLAY YARDS. MM-HMM. KIND OF AT THE BOTTOM. YEAH. BUT THEN IT APPEARS TO THE LEFT OF THAT, THAT THERE IS SOME UNUSED SPACE THERE. ARE YOU GUYS PLANNING ON PUTTING ADDITIONAL PLAY YARDS IN THAT AREA? N NO MA'AM. UH, WE ARE LIMITED TO WHAT WE ARE IDENTIFYING, UH, HERE AS THE OPEN SPACE AREA, [02:15:01] THAT MIGHT JUST BE, YOU KNOW, A WALKWAY OF SOME SORT TO GET THE PETS OUTSIDE TO THAT AREA. OKAY. SO QUESTION FOR STAFF THEN. SO ARE THEY TIED TO WHAT'S HERE ON THE SITE PLAN? SO THEN THERE'S NO GOING IN AND ADDING ADDITIONAL, THERE MAY BE MINOR AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, UH, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IF ANYTHING, UH, KICKS INTO A MAJOR, IT REQUIRES A REZONING. BUT THE SITE PLAN IS WHAT IS USED THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UM, CAROLYN, IS IT CAROLYN OR CAROLINE? CAROLINE. OKAY. THAT'S PRETTY, UM, WHERE THE PENS ARE, UH, THE OUTDOOR PENS ARE THOSE BACKING UP TO THE HOUSING, THE HOUSES THAT I SEE. UH, SORRY, COULD YOU GO TO AN AERIAL PHOTO? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ONE ZOOMED OUT. UH, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO. THE HOUSING IS UP HERE AND, UM, TO THE WEST, NORTHWEST AND, UM, WOO. , WE GOTTA TRAVEL WAYS HERE. YEAH, HERE WE GO. SO THAT'S THAT BINGO HALL THAT JUST GOT BUILT WHERE OUR LOT IS RIGHT HERE, ROUGHLY. AND SO THE OUTDOOR AREA WILL BE FACING WHAT I THINK IS INGRAM ROAD. OKAY. THAT MAKES MORE SENSE THAN GOOGLE MAPS DID FOR ME. UM, SO, UH, I MEAN, IS THE CONCERN THE PUPPIES AND THE DOGGIES BARKING AND WHAT'S FROM STAFF OR WE, THE ORIGINAL, UH, I THINK THE CONCERN FROM STAFF, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF, WAS JUST THAT THE UNDERLYING LAND USE PLAN WASN'T, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT C THREE ZONING. IT'S A GENERAL URBAN OR REGIONAL CENTER. UM, AND THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING WEST SECTOR PLAN. UM, SO THAT IS THEIR WHY. THEY RECOMMENDED THEIR ALTERNATE, UH, DISTRICT, WHICH ALLOWS US TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND SO, UH, THE SELLER AND THE APPLICANT DID WORK TOGETHER AND AGREE TO, UH, CHANGE IT TO THE C TWO CD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. OKAY. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 16 AS AMENDED SECOND. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL WITH AMENDMENT AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. OKAY. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. ALRIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER HEAD AND MADAM CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, SO THAT, UM, CONCLUDES THE, UM, ZONING CASE HEARING, UM, FOR OUR MEETING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYONE WHO'S STILL IN ATTENDANCE. UH, WE ARE NOW ON TO OUR, [18 19-6553 Consideration and Approval of the August 20, 2019 Zoning Commission Minutes] UH, APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 20TH, 2019 MINUTES. UM, COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY, UH, CORRECTIONS? YES, ON ITEM 15, I BELIEVE, UM, IT, IT, IT'S, IT STATES THAT, UM, BASICALLY IT WAS A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL AND I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE OPPOSED. OKAY. SO, UM, I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND, UM, CHECK THAT. WHAT, UNLESS, UNLESS I LOOKED AT THE WRONG ADDRESS. UH, WE DID CATCH THAT. SO, UM, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT, UH, AMENDED. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES. ANYONE ELSE? SIPES? ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. IF, UM, THERE'S NO, UH, OBJECTIONS, UM, THE MINUTES, UM, WILL BE, UH, CORRECTED AND UH, THE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED AS CORRECTED. OKAY. UM, IS THERE [Director's Report: Status of Appointments] AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, UM, OTHER THAN WHAT WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT SESSION? UM, THE STATUS OF THE APPOINTMENTS, WE HAVE SOME NEW APPOINTMENTS COMING, UM, SINCE THEY WERE ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE SCHEDULED FOR THIS THURSDAY, BUT THE COUNCIL MEETING WAS RESCHEDULED, [02:20:01] SO I BELIEVE THEY'RE GONNA BE PUSHED TO THE NEXT MEETING NEXT WEEK. AND THEN, UM, IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE MAY HAVE SOME NEW APPOINTEES AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 17TH. OKAY. GREAT. WELL, UM, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR WONDERFUL SERVICE. I PRAY THAT YOU HAVE A SUCCESSFUL AND PRODUCTIVE REST OF YOUR WEEK, AND I WILL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 3:34 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.