* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT PLEASE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. THE TIME IS 1 0 2. I'D LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UH, MARCO BARROS, DISTRICT NINE, JOHN BUSTAMONTE, DISTRICT FIVE VO ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT. DANIEL KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WITT. UH, DISTRICT 10 TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO. JANELLE CHASE MAYOR'S OFFICE. GEORGE INA DISTRICT THREE. EDDIE REYES, DISTRICT FOUR DISTRICT SIX STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT. HEY, QUORUM IS PRESENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 1111 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRES PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND A PROPERTY AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION IN ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING. YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU WILL BE INFORMED WHEN THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND MUST YIELD THAT TIME. WHEN THE PERSON GOES TO THE PODIUM, THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, [Zoning Items  ] THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS FOR TODAY? WE DO NOT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, IF WE COULD GO OVER THE LIST OF THE ITEMS ON THE COMBINED AGENDA. ITEMS FOR CONSENT ARE ITEMS 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, AND 18. COMMISSIONERS. ANY OF THESE ITEMS ON THE COMBINED CONSENT AGENDA YOU WOULD WISH TO POOL TO INDIVIDUAL LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. UM, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THE COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TATTOO PARLOR WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ADDED. UM, DAYS OF OPERATION WOULD BE MONDAY THROUGH SAT SATURDAY. CLOSED ON SUNDAY HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD BE 12 NOON TO 10:00 PM AND THE REAR DOORS WILL BE CLOSED DURING BUSINESS HOURS LOCATED AT 65 63 BABCOCK ROAD. 23 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. AND THE TANGLEWOOD RESIDENT RESIDENTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT FOR THE CONDITIONS. ITEM NUMBER SIX, IT IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO C3 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THIS UNCHANGED. LOCATED AT 4 2 7 WEST NACOMA [00:05:01] STREET. 13. NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO. OPPOSED, THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED ONE IN OPPOSITION. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING LO FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN UNCHANGED. LOCATED AT AT 8 3 8 KBRA ROAD. 36. NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE WEST END HOPE IN ACTION. MARTINEZ CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THE SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE AND MF 33. TWO C3 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 10 25 NO GTOS ROAD AND 2 0 1 POWELL STREET. 33 NOTICES WERE SENT. THREE. RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO. OPPOSED COLLINS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO MF 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT ONE 18 WEST LUBBOCK STREET. 20. NOTICES WERE SENT. FOUR. RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO. OPPOSED. COLLINS GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TWO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2 9 2 2 EAST HOUSTON STREET. 32 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO. OPPOSED UH, NO RESPONSE FROM JEFFERSON HEIGHTS AND HARVARD PLACED EAST LAWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION HALL AND MEETING FACILITIES LOCATED AT TEN THREE NINETEEN EBNER ROAD. 16. NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED OAKLAND ESTATE'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE RIOT COMMONS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO CD WITH A CONDITION CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO PAINT AND BODY REPAIR WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE OF VEHICLES AND PARTS PERMITTED BY TOTALLY SCREENED FROM VIEW OF ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND PUBLIC ROAD ROADWAYS TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN. ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1241 SOUTH WW WHITE ROAD. 19. NOTICES SENT THREE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM DEL CREST AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED THREE IN FAVOR. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM RM FOUR TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2 3 0 SOUTH MONUMENTAL 11 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN, I'M SORRY, 11. 11 IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. 13 IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND ZERO OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET NO RESPONSE FROM DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO MXD WITH A MIXED MAXIMUM DENSITY OF A HUNDRED UNITS PER ACRE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 46 21 RIMAN ROAD. 23 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MANUFACTURED HOMES, OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES, SERVICE AND STORAGE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 4,000 BLOCK OF BINS ENGLEMAN ROAD. SIX NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSE. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS 14 AND 15. VOICEMAILS FOR ITEM 14 AND SPEAKERS FOR ITEM 15. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE. FRANKLIN 4 8 1 1. DALE CHRIS, D-E-L-L-C-E-T DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO ZERO MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 232-7484. I AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT OF DALE CREST AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I AM IN AGREEMENT UH, WITH UH, CASE NUMBER Z 2 24 1 0 7 0 0 2 6 7 [00:10:04] CD I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, UH, WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. YES, THIS IS JOHNNY DIXON CALLING FROM JET LOW AUTO SALES, UH, ON LOCATED AT 1131 SOUTH WW WHITE ROAD. UH, I WAS CALLING TO SAY I WAS IN FAVOR OF, UH, REZONING, UH, JAIME MUFFLER AND TIRE AUTO TIRE SHOP AT 1241 SOUTH WW ROAD 7 8 2 2 0. UH, BECAUSE, UH, JAIME HAS BEEN THERE FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS OR SO AND, UH, HE'S A, UH, RESPECTABLE GUY AND, AND AND THEY DO GREAT WORK UP THERE AND HE IS ABLE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR SO LONG THAT UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF, UH, WHATEVER REZO AND PROCESS, UH, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH UP THERE. SO, UH, THAT'S ALL. I JUST WANTED TO CALL. I WAS IN FAVOR, BUT REZONING TIRE BUFFALO SHOCK AND UH, IF YOU NEED ANY, ANYTHING FROM ME, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 417-3916. THANK YOU WILLIAMS. AND I'M CALLING FROM SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. ADDRESS IS 4 4 11 LAKEWOOD DRIVE, UM, WHICH IS SAN ANTONIO. ZIP CODE IS 7 8 2 2 1 AND I'M CALLING TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, HIGH MEANS THE AUTO REPAIR SHOP DOES NOT GET REZONED. I PREFER THEM TO STAY HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAS BEEN HERE FOR 15 YEARS. SO THEY HELP MANY PEOPLE AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB AT A VERY LOW PRICE. SO PLEASE DO NOT REZONE THEM IF YOU COULD, UM, LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I CAN DO IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE, THEY, THEY REMAIN IN THIS LOCATION. THANK YOU AND YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY. HELLO, MY NAME IS ROBIN DAVIS. ADDRESS 4 4 1 4 JAMESTOWN. I'M CALLING ABOUT THE REZONING. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AREA IS REZONED AND EQUIPPED BECAUSE ONE OF THE BUSINESSES I UTILIZE A LOT IS HIGH NEEDS AUTOMOTIVE. THEY'RE ON W WHITE ROAD. I HAVE LITERALLY TAKEN ALL OF MY VEHICLES THERE OVER THE YEARS. UM, MY OWN VEHICLE, MY FAMILY'S VEHICLES, LITERALLY ALL OF US, I GO THERE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE HONEST. I CAN TRUST THEM AND THE PRICES ARE MORE THAN REASONABLE. SO REGARDS TO REZONING, I WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK OUT IN FAVOR OF THAT AS IT BENEFITS THAT BUSINESS AND OTHERS IN THE AREA AS WELL. BUT AS MUCH AS I USE JAIME, SO I HAD TO CALL YOU GUYS. SO MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 275-6865. THANK YOU. AND SO THAT'S IT FOR VOICEMAILS ON ITEM NUMBER 14 AND THEN WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS FOR ITEM 15. FIRST WE HAVE MR. ALAN NEFF TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. MARTHA BANDA. CAN WE TURN THE MICROPHONE ON PLEASE? SORRY ABOUT THAT. I'LL START OVER. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ALAN NEFF. MY ADDRESS IS 1315 WYOMING. THAT'S MY RESIDENCE. I'M ALSO THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT TWO 30 SOUTH. MONUMENTAL, UH, I APPRECIATE THE SPORT EVERYBODY'S GIVEN. UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS UM, ZONING CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE A GOOD THING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GARDENING ON THIS LOT SINCE 2008. SO THIS WILL FORMALIZE IT AND ALLOW SARAH, MY FRIEND AND NEIGHBOR TO DO THE BUSINESS THE RIGHT WAY. BE ABLE TO SELL THE PRODUCE FROM THE LAND. IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. UH, WE'VE BEEN BLOCK WALKING AND WE RECEIVE 26 UH, VOICES OF SUPPORT AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION. I THINK IF WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO GET TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON, THEY ALL WOULD'VE SAID YES. SO REALLY THIS COMMUNITY IS ENTIRELY IN SUPPORT AND IN A LOT OF WAYS THIS PROJECT IS FOR THAT COMMUNITY TO HAVE AMENITIES THAT DON'T EXIST WITHIN OUR CURRENT FOOD DESERT. UM, I GUESS THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. I'LL KEEP IT REAL LIGHT. I APPRECIATE THE SERVICE ALL OF YOU PROVIDE TO THE CITY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THAT'S IT FOR SPEAKERS. ALRIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE COMBINED AGENDA? MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, ITEM NUMBER SIX. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, [00:15:01] ITEM NUMBER NINE. ITEM NUMBER 10. ITEM NUMBER 12. ITEM NUMBER 13. ITEM NUMBER 14 AS AMENDED. ITEM NUMBER 15, NUMBER 16 AND NUMBER 18. AND MR. CHAIR? YEAH. UH, COMMISSIONER MONT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. ITEM NUMBER FIVE WITH CONDITIONS AS STATED ON THE RECORD. FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ACCEPTED. ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. MR. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS FIVE FIVE WITH THE CONDITIONS AS STATED ON THE RECORD. UH, 6 7 9 10 12 13 14 WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN. 15, 16, AND 18. MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS LOOKING LEFT. SEEING NONE. LOOKING RIGHT IN SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WIT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES. FIVE WITH CONDITIONS AND 14 IS AMENDED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THOSE ITEMS WILL BE NOW, WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING ON TO CITY COUNCIL AND YOU ARE FREE TO ENJOY THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON. SO THANK YOU. ARE WE GONNA HAVE ANYBODY LEFT? WE'RE ALREADY OUT THE DOOR. ? NO. ALRIGHT. UH, WE WILL NOW BE MOVING ON TO OUR FIRST CONTINUANCE HEARING THE ITEMS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE DECEMBER 17TH, 2024 MEETING. ARE ITEMS NUMBER 2, 4, 11 AND 17. WAIT, SAY THAT, SAY THAT AGAIN. ITEMS 2, 4, 11 AND 17. OKAY, SO TWO WAS ORIGINALLY YES. REQUESTING THE FIVE WEEK. OKAY. I THINK, I THINK I GOT IT. ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? WE DO NOT. ALRIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO THE DECEMBER 17TH HEARING ITEMS NUMBER 2, 4 11 AND 17. SECOND. THAT MOTION? ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEMS 2, 4, 11 AND 17 TO THE DECEMBER 17TH MEETING. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARDOS. ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE. LOOKING RIGHT AND SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER BARDOS? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSMAN. AYE. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER PLEASE? YES. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. ITEMS PASS FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND CONTINUANCE HEARING PLEASE. WE DO HAVE AN ITEM REQUESTING A FIVE WEEK CONTINUANCE TO OUR JANUARY 7TH, 2025 MEETING. UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ITEM? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE. ITEM NUMBER THREE TO THE JANUARY 7TH, 2025 HEARING. ALRIGHT, IS THERE A CON? I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. SO THERE'S A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER THREE TO THE JANUARY 7TH MEETING. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS. ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT. SEEING NONE. LOOKING RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY. AYE. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER TIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER TSET? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. [00:20:01] CHAIR SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WE WILL SEE YOU IN A COUPLE WEEKS OR NEXT YEAR. ALRIGHT, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING AND I BELIEVE ITEM NUMBER ONE IS, FIRST UP IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS LOCATED AT 9 4 6 NORTH 1604 WEST, GOING FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A TATTOO PARLOR SLASH STUDIO WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICE. UH, THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES THAT WERE SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND NO RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A TATTOO PARLOR IS ALSO APPROPRIATE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE TO ESTABLISH A TATTOO PARLOR IN A UNIT WITHIN AN EXISTING CHOPPING CENTER. THE SURROUNDING AREA IS COMPRISED OF OTHER COMMERCIAL USES AND ZONES, MAKING THE PROPOSAL CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS PRESENT IN THE AREA. ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN REQUIRED FOR CONDITIONAL USE AND ANY DEVIATION FROM THE APPROVED DOCUMENT COULD POTENTIALLY WARRANT ADDITIONAL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SAWS IS PRESENT TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE'D HAVE THE SAS REPORT PLEASE. OKAY. MIKE LAN WITH SAS AQUIFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION. WE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED AT 9 46 NORTH LOOP 1604, UH, WEST, ALLOWING FOR A TATTOO PARLOR ON 0.1225 ACRES. THE SITE IS, IS LOCATED IN AN EXISTING RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER WITH A BUSINESS SUITES. THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE WILL OCCUPY AN EXISTING 5,355 SQUARE FOOT SUITE AND WILL NOT INCREASE NOR ADD TO THE EXISTING AND PREVIOUS COVER. NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES NOR FLOODPLAIN WERE DOCUMENTED ON SITE. WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE SAS REPORT TO INCLUDE THE CONTINUED MAINTENANCE FOR AN ONSITE WATER QUALITY BASIN. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE CONTROL OR, OH, THERE IT'S OKAY. YOU GOT IT? YEAH. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE SUITE TWO 50 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER AND APPLICANT. UM, THANK YOU MIKE WITH SAS, UM, FOR THEIR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS REQUEST. UM, I WILL BE VERY, VERY BRIEF TODAY. UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING RETAIL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN CANYON CREEK ALONG 1604 JUST EAST OF BLANCO. UM, WE ARE REQUESTING A REZONING OF JUST LITTLE OVER 5,300 SQUARE FEET. UM, THIS IS THE EXISTING SUITE 100. IT WAS FORMERLY A NAVY FEDERAL CREDIT UNION. UM, CURRENTLY UNOCCUPIED, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT, IT'S THIS WESTERN PIECE OUTLINED IN YELLOW, UM, FOR A TATTOO STUDIO WITHIN THE EXISTING SUITE. UM, THE PROPERTY IS ZONE Z TWO, SO IT IS JUST A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE TATTOO PARLOR SHOP. UM, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN. UM, AND THIS IS OUR SITE PLAN. AGAIN, 5,300 SQUARE FEET EXISTING RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER. UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT. THIS IS A, WHAT CASE IS WHO? THIS IS A DISTRICT NINE CASE. ALRIGHT. SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER BARDOS? YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS. I'M, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM ONE IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS. WHAT IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXISTING DRIVE THROUGH ANYWAY, I'M SORRY, . ALRIGHT. UH, QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'M NOT GONNA ASK MS. WEISLER TO COME UP FOR QUESTIONS. , SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER BARDOS FOR A MOTION. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UH, IT IS A PROPER ZONING. UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS SAAL APPROVES AND UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER ONE. THANK YOU. AND I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM ONE BY COMMISSIONER BARROS WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER IS LOOKING LEFT. SEEING NONE. LOOKING RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER [00:25:01] WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER OSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER WIT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR S SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. SO ITEM FOUR WAS CONTINUED. SO WE ARE ON ITEM EIGHT, I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA HAVE STAFF'S REPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS LOCATED AT 2 1 4 6 AUSTIN HIGHWAY. GOING FROM C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C3 S GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A SPECIFIED FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 10 NOTICES SENT OUT FOR IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND NO RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THE EXISTING C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C3 S DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A SPECIFIED FINANCIAL INSTITUTION IS ALSO NOT APPROPRIATE. THOUGH THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. C3 EXCEEDS THE INTENSITY SUGGESTED FOR THE AREA WITHIN THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WITHIN VICINITY LAND USE PLAN. ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAS BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT AREAS OF SATURATION REGARDING THE REQUEST REQUESTED USE ALONG THE CORRIDOR. THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION PROCESS, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WAS ADOPTED TO HELP ADDRESS THAT CONCERN THROUGHOUT THE CITY. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. THE APPLICANT AND THE REPRESENTATIVE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. HELLO, I'M CHRISTINA LENISE. I AM WITH IF YOU'RE A CONSULTING, I AM THE, UH, APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE TO PRESENT HIS CASE AND GO OVER HIS CASE WITH YOU GUYS. UM, HE'S HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. HE IF, HOWEVER I CHOOSE, UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET REZONED FOR SPECIFIC USE FOR A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION FOR HIS SUITE ONLY. UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T WANT TO GO DOWN TO A LOWER DESIGNATION FOR IN THE EVENT THAT THIS BUSINESS DECIDES TO MOVE OUT AND GROW AFTER THEIR LEASE. UH, HE DOESN'T WANNA LOSE HIS CURRENT ZONING RIGHT NOW WHILE IT IS A C3, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR HIS BUSINESS TYPE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? MR. SANDAGE, YOU HAD SIGNED UP IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK. NO, THAT WAS JUST, I, I ERRONEOUSLY SIGNED UP. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR QUESTIONS. UH, I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UM, ACTUALLY TAKE THAT BACK. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. UH, UH, STAFF REMIND US WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THIS, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT WAS AT PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, THE PLAN AMENDMENT. THEY REQUESTED REGIONAL CENTER OR REGIONAL COMMERCIAL TO STICK WITH, UH, THE C3 BASED ZONING AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD RECOMMENDED DENIAL. OKAY, THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. UM, I'LL OPEN UP TO MY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS BEFORE A DISCUSSION AND A MOTION. ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, JUST WHAT KIND OF, CAN YOU GIMME A MORE INFORMATION, WHAT KIND OF FINANCIAL INSTITUTION YOU'RE PLANNING TO OPEN HERE? UH, IT WOULD PROVIDE, UM, FINANCING FOR FOLKS. THE BANK HAS TURNED THEIR BACK ON IN THE EVENT THAT SOMEONE'S, UH, CAR BREAKS DOWN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT COULD COME TO ME FOR AN INSTALLMENT LOAN, UH, AND UH, GET BACK ON THEIR FEET. DOES IS IT A PRIVATE BUSINESS OR IS IT A FRANCHISE OR? IT'S A PRIVATE BUSINESS. OKAY. IT'S JUST ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. NONE COMMERS ON MY RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER UH, REYES, UH, QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. DID YOU ALL FIND ANY INCREASE IN TRIPS OR PARKING OR ACCESS, ANY ISSUES WITH INCREASE, UM, BY CHANGING THE, THE ZONING? NO SIR. THE SITE CONDITIONS ARE THE SAME. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. IS THIS YOUR ONLY LOCATION OR ARE THERE OTHER LOCATIONS? THIS IS THE ONLY LOCATION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, AND THEN REAL QUICK IF I CAN JUST REITERATE SURE. I KNOW WE ALL REITERATE. SURE. I KNOW Y'ALL DID BRING UP THE, UH, PLAN DENIAL. I KNOW COMMISSION WAS KIND OF SPLIT ON THAT DECISION AFTER WE WERE, UM, PRESENTED THE CASE. OF COURSE, THE REASON THEY HAD MOVED FORWARD WITH THE DENIAL IS BECAUSE THE BIG BOX DESIGNATION THAT WE WERE REQUESTING ON THE ENTIRE PARCEL, IT'S WE'RE JUST REZONING HIS ONE SPECIFIC SUITE [00:30:01] AND NOT CHANGING THE WHOLE ENTIRETY OF IT. I BELIEVE, I'M NOT SURE IF THE SITE PLAN IS WITHIN THIS PRESENTATION. I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE IT ON YASA AS WELL. UM, IT'S OF COURSE THE ZONING CHANGE AND THE PLAN PLAN AMENDMENT IS ONLY FOR HIS SPECIFIC SITE USE. UM, I THINK THEY WERE KIND OF SPLIT ON THAT AT PLANNING JUST BECAUSE OF THE SIZE. AND OF COURSE WHAT WE NEED IS SO THAT, UM, THE CURRENT OWNER DOESN'T HAVE TO DROP DOWN IN THEIR ZONING, UM, DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, AS FAR AS THE DENIAL, THE STAFF FRONT DENIAL TODAY IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THE AREA TO BE SATURATED WITH THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS. UM, AFTER FURTHER INVESTIGATION, I KNOW THAT WAS A PLAN SET FORTH YEARS AGO WHEN PAYDAY LOANS AND ALL THOSE TYPE OF LOANS WERE VERY APPARENT IN THE AREA OR THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, IN HIS SPECIFIC ZIP ZIP CODE AND IN HIS VICINITY THERE IS ONLY TWO OTHER LOAN PAYDAY LOAN PLACES LIKE THAT. AND HIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A PAYDAY LOAN UH, LOCATION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, FINAL ROUND FOR QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE, AM I RIGHT? UH OH, NOW WE'VE GOT MORE, OH, I'M SORRY. SORRY. UH, COMMISSIONER CHASE. UM, IF THIS IS NOT A PAYDAY LOAN SITUATION, WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU OFFERING? WHAT'S YOUR FINANCING? UM, IT, IT WOULD BE UNDER, UH, WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED PAYDAY LOANS, SAME DAY LOANS AS, UH, YOU KNOW, PREFERRED NOMENCLATURE NOW. BUT, UH, UM, MOSTLY I WOULD BE OFFERING INSTALLMENT LOANS AND UM, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS PEOPLE GET BACK ON THEIR FEET IN HARD TIMES. SO I THINK WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SAY IS MORE OF LIKE A SUN LOAN, MERIT FINANCE, THOSE TYPE OF OFFICES FOR THE AREA AND NOT, UH, ACTUAL QUICK TURNAROUND. I THINK THEY'RE, HIS TERMS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE PAYDAY LOANS FOR THAT AREA. I HAVE LOWER, LOWER RATES. I MEAN, NOT SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER, BUT LOWER THAN MOST OF THE LARGER PLACES. I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MATTERS TO YOU , IS THAT GOOD QUESTION? YEAH. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, SO IF I'M UNDERSTAND, THIS WOULD BE APPROVED IF THEY DROPPED DOWN TO C TWO, IS THAT WHAT WHAT I'M HEARING? UH, NO SIR, NOT NECESSARILY. UM, IT'S STILL A SPECIFIED FINANCIAL INSTITUTION AND SO, UM, JUST BASED ON THE HISTORY AND THE AREA AND THE SATURATION, WE WOULD JUST NOT RECOMMEND IT. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON ANOTHER LEVEL, HAD THEY GONE C TWO CD, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THEY WOULD BE PROCEEDING TO YOU GUYS WITH A C TWO CD ONLY. SO THERE'S NO ZONING CLASSIFICATION ALLOWS THIS WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF SPECIFIC APPROVAL. CORRECT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN S FOR A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE BECAUSE AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, THOSE PARTICULAR USES WHERE A COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY FELT THERE NEEDED TO BE AN EXTRA LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF USE. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THAT'S ONE OF THOSE USES. IF, IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT A PARAGRAPH LONG, BUT I CAN READ THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A SPECIFIED FINANCIAL INSTITUTION IS. PLEASE DO. LOGAN. UH, IT IS DEFINED IN THE UDC AS ANY BUSINESS WHOSE PRIMARY FUNCTION IS TO LEND MONEY ON A TEMPORARY BASIS WHEREIN SUCH LOANS ARE SECURED BY A POST DATED CHECK, PAYCHECK, ANTICIPATED TAX REFUND, VEHICLE TITLE OR TAX LIEN PROPERTY, OR TO CASH CHECKS AND OTHER NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS FOR A FEE SERVICE CHARGE OR OTHER CONSIDERATION OR TO PROVIDE FUNDS ON A DEFERRED DEPOSIT BASIS. A SPECIFIED FINANCIAL INSTITUTION MAY OFFER WALK-IN SERVICE OR MAY SERVE CLIENTS VIA THE INTERNET OR TELEPHONE. THE TERM SPECIFIED FINANCIAL INSTITUTION INCLUDES WITHOUT LIMITATION, THE FOLLOWING USES CHECK CASHING FACILITIES AS WELL AS AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE PAYDAY LOANS, VEHICLE TITLE LOANS, REFUND ANTICIPATION LOANS OR TAX LIEN LOANS. AND THEN THE LAST TWO SENTENCES ARE, THIS TERM SHALL NOT INCLUDE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE REGULATED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF BANKING, THE TEXAS CREDIT UNION DEPARTMENT, OR NATIONAL CREDIT UNION ASSOCIATION. AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY FURTHER THIS TERM SHALL ALSO NOT INCLUDE PLACES THAT SELL CONSUMER GOODS OR THAT PREPARE TAXES. IF I MIGHT ADD TO THAT, THAT CAST THE RATHER WIDE NET OVER A GROUP OF, UH, LIKE THE 3 52 BUSINESS CODE WHERE IT, UH, IT NARROWS DOWN INTO FOLKS THAT DO SPECIFIC PIECES OF WHAT HE WAS DESCRIBING. FOR EXAMPLE, TAX REFUND LOANS. [00:35:01] I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. A TITLE LOAN WOULD FOLLOW IN MY PREVIEW, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT OFFERING THAT AND I HAVE NOT BEEN LICENSED FOR THAT. I'VE BEEN LICENSED TO DO INSTALLMENT LOANS AND SAME DAY LOANS. AND SOME OF THOSE ARE BASED ON, UH, PERSONAL CHECKS, BUT, UH, THE MAJORITY AND THE VA, I MEAN, 99% OF THEM ARE GONNA BE BASED ON BANK ACCOUNT HISTORY AND UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE EMPLOYED. I DON'T WANT TO LEND TO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT. IT WOULDN'T BE A, THAT'S NOT A WINNING BUSINESS PLAN. AND SO I'M REALLY TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE GET BACK ON THEIR FEET. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER WIT, THAT WAS THE, THE EXTENT OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT THAT ANSWERED IT. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, YOU HAD A QUESTION? I THOUGHT I DID. UM, SO BRIEFLY THOUGH, TO GET BACK TO IT, SO IF THEY HAD REQUESTED C TWO S, THERE WOULD BE NO REQUIREMENT FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT AND IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? WITH FIELD NOTES? YES, SIR. MM-HMM. WITH FIELD NOTES. OKAY. UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE SATURATION ANALYSIS PERFORMED BY THE STAFF, UH, WAS THAT FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE ONGOING OR WAS IT LIMITED TO THE ZONING? UH, FOR THE S DO YOU KNOW? UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT BUSINESSES ONGOING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. DID, DID YOU FIND THAT THERE WERE MORE THAN THE TWO IN THE, IN THE ZIP CODE THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION? I DIDN'T CLARIFY A ZIP CODE. I REALLY WAS JUST LOOKING ALONG THE CORRIDOR. OKAY. FOR AUSTIN HIGHWAY. SO WHAT PORTION OF THE CORRIDOR? I MEAN, AUSTIN HIGHWAY IS, GOES SOME DISTANCE. IT IS PRETTY LONG, SO IT WAS GOING PRETTY FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. UM, I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN THE MEASUREMENTS THAT I HAD, LIKE, OKAY. WHERE, WHERE'D YOU START? DO YOU HAVE I STARTED FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER. OKAY. SO YOU STARTED UP BROADWAY AND WENT ALL THE WAY TO FOUR 10? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, THE, THE TWO THAT WERE, SIR, THANK YOU. I HAD A SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR THEM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE. COMMISSIONER ON UP. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY? UM, I WAS GONNA JUST SAY THAT THE TWO WERE FROM THE, UH, THE CAB REGISTRY WITH THE CITY. SO THE CITY REQUIRES REGISTRATION FOR BUSINESSES OF MY TYPE. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO IN THE ZIP CODE THAT ARE REGISTERED IN, UM, WITH THE CITY. AND THERE'S UM, THERE'S 35,000 PEOPLE LISTED IN THE SAME ZIP CODE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE IS THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS. SO BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE MOTION. INDEED. UH, SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF UNIQUE, UH, CIRCUMSTANCES ABOUT THIS CASE. UM, AND IT IS, IT IS A CLOSER CALL. UM, WHILE THERE IS NOT OPPOSITION FROM THE IMMEDIATE BUSINESS NEIGHBORS IN THIS CASE, UM, IT HAS BEEN QUITE CONSISTENT OVER THE PLANNING PROCESSES IN DISTRICT TWO, UM, IN RECENT YEARS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE COMMUNITY AS DESIRING BUSINESSES THAT MAKE DISTRICT TWO A PLACE TO GO TO RATHER THAN PASS THROUGH. UM, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION WITH ME FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, KNOW THAT I WILL ALMOST ALWAYS PULL, UM, EVEN WHEN THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, THOSE TYPE OF USES DOWN FOR A CLOSER LOOK, UH, BECAUSE IT HAS INHIBITED CORD OR A REDEVELOPMENT. UM, I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT HERE IS GOOD, UM, AND THAT YOU'RE A LICENSED AND ACCREDITED BUSINESS. HOWEVER, UM, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE SITUATION WITH HOW THE STEP UP IN ZONING WOULD HAPPEN, UM, AND THE PLAN COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, WHICH I THINK OTHER COMMISSIONERS WOULD AGREE, IS QUITE UNIQUE, UM, ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS. UM, THE, THE WILL OF THE COMMUNITY IS CLEAR HERE THAT THIS IS NOT, UM, A PREFERRED TYPE OF BUSINESS AND I DON'T THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. SO I'LL BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL. IS THERE A SECOND? LOOKING I'LL SECOND. OH, COMMISSIONER OSA WITH THE SECOND. ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. ALRIGHT. UM, I DO WANNA REITERATE WHAT COMMISSIONER WATSON SAID THAT YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT TO CAST ANY ASPERSION ON THE APPLICANT. IT SEEMS LIKE THE INTENT HERE IS GOOD. UM, I DO FIND THIS TO BE A VERY CLOSE CASE GIVEN THE EXISTING C3 USAGE. UM, THE PLAN AMENDMENT WEIGHS, BUT PRIMARILY, YOU KNOW, IT'S COMMISSIONER WATSON AND DISTRICT TWO. UH, WHAT I WOULD'VE DONE IN THIS CASE MAY NOT BE ON POINT. UM, BUT GIVEN THE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER WATSON, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSION ON MY LEFT. IF, IF [00:40:01] I CAN ENTERED WELL, I'M SORRY, WE'RE, WE'RE DONE WITH A, A COMMENT PORTION. UM, CO UH, SORRY. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER OSA, JUST ONE FOR THE APPLICANT. JUST REMEMBER THIS IS, UH, WHEN THEY CHANGE THE ZONING, IT GOES WITH THE LAND. I KNOW YOU MADE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS WHERE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT DOING THAT, BUT IF IT'S REZONED FOR THAT AND YOU SELL LATER AND OR MOVE OUT AND SOMEONE DOES THAT, SOMEONE ELSE COULD DO THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE LONG PARAGRAPH. UM, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE FOR TAX, YOU DON'T NEED A LICENSE TO DO TAXES, YOU KNOW, JUST GO GET A P 10 AND YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. PUT THE CHINO OUT. SO THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, REMEMBER WE'RE RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE CITY COUNCIL, SO DEFINITELY CONTACT CITY COUNCIL 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE ONES GONNA MAKE THE DECISION YET. YAY. A THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, FINAL COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER'S. ON MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT, UH, MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMM UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. SECOND BY, IT WAS COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, I BELIEVE. CORRECT? YES. ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? NO. COMMISSIONER WITS? UM, NO. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU. UM, I BELIEVE OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 19. IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. BRONTE FERER ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 19 IS LOCATED AT 26 0 7 WAVERLY AVENUE, GOING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS. ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. THERE ARE 33 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. AND UNIVERSITY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED R FOUR CD, UM, FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA. THEY PROPOSED OUR FOUR CD PRESERVES, A SINGLE FAMILY BASED ZONING DISTRICT PER PERMITS, AN INCREASED DENSITY OF FOUR DWELLING UNITS ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS UNCHARACTERISTIC OF THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY USES IN THE AREA. STAFF'S ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION TO CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LIMITS THE REQUEST BUT ALLOWS FOR DENSITY THAT IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED A DUPLEX BY RIGHT, WHICH ALIGNS WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THE PROPOSED REZONING SUPPORTS THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES ADDITIONAL HOUSING FOR THE GROWING SAN ANTONIO POPULATION AT ALL INCOME LEVELS. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, PLEASE. HI THERE, I'M, UH, HECTOR ACOSTA. THIS IS MY WIFE FOR, FOR LINDA. UH, LET'S SEE. HISTORY'S IMPORTANT ON THIS ONE. UM, WE WERE MARRIED IN 1970 JUST AFTER GRADUATING FROM ST. MARY'S RIGHT UP THE ROAD FROM THIS PROPERTY. UH, AND, UH, UH, I, I WENT ON TO FLY AND, AND DO THAT FOR THE AIR FORCE AND, UM, COMBAT AND VIETNAM, ALL THAT STUFF, UH, REQUIRED AFTER 28 AND A HALF YEARS. FORMER POWI ONLY SPENT A LITTLE TIME DOING THAT, SO IT'S NOT A BIG THAT BIG A DEAL, BUT SHE, SHE WAS WITH ME THROUGH ALL OF THAT. UM, WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH MY AIR FORCE CAREER BEFORE I RETIRED FROM THE AIR FORCE IN 98. IN 83 WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AS IS AS A FOURPLEX. AND WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ZONING. UH, IT WAS AS IS WE PURCHASED IT, WE'VE RENTED IT AND USED IT AS A, AS A, AS A RENTAL PROPERTY AS A FOURPLEX FOR NEARLY FOUR DECADES. UH, WE'RE JUST NOW RETIRED. AND SO WE SAT DOWN AND WE SAID, LOOK, WE'RE GETTING LOTS OF OFFERS ON THE PHONE TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY. UH, BUT WE SAY, WELL, IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE KIND OF HAVE, ARE VESTED IN AND WE, IT NEEDED A LOT OF REPAIRS. SO WE SAID, OKAY, NO, WE'RE GONNA INVEST. WE TOOK RETIREMENT MONEY AND WE INVESTED, WE STARTED OUT WITH A BUDGET. WE'VE EXCEEDED THAT BY ABOUT 40% AND WE'VE BEEN PUTTING MONEY INTO IT, UH, TO GET IT TO KIND OF THE WAY IT LOOKS NOW, WHICH IS, UH, UH, SORT OF A, WE HOPE A GYM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, UH, BY THE WAY, THE IMPROVEMENT OF WHAT IT WAS, IT'S SIGNIFICANT. THERE'S A, THERE'S A PRIOR PICTURE IN THE STACK, UH, ANYWAY, YEAH, IT'S GONNA COME A LONG WAY, BUT WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE IT SAFER, [00:45:01] UH, MUCH MORE LIVABLE, UH, REALLY TRY TO FOCUS OR SOMETHING FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PLACE TO STAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ABOUT ITS USE. I MEAN, FOR FOUR DECADES IT'S BEEN A FOURPLEX AND WE'VE USED IT THAT WAY. UH, THE STAFF APPROPRIATELY I THINK SAW THAT, WELL THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL ZONE AREA. UH, BUT WE WENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEY BASICALLY TOLD US THEIR CONCERNS. WE ANSWERED ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS, THEY WERE SATISFIED WITH OUR ANSWERS AND THEY SUPPORTED IT UNSOLICITED. WE HAD A, A LADY WHO WAS PART OF THAT ACTIVITY COME UP AND ACTUALLY TAKE THE TIME TO WRITE A LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT'S IN THE STACK, UH, THAT'S THERE. UM, AND SHE LIVES VERY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. UH, WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY COMPLAINTS. UM, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER. UH, WE ANTICIPATED SOME OF THE CONCERNS, FOR EXAMPLE, PARKING. WE PUT IN A CONCRETE DRIVEWAY AND A PARKING PAD IN THE BACK ANTICIPATING ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. AND SO NO ONE ELSE HAS A PARKING LOT IN THE BACK. UH, BUT WE DID THAT BECAUSE IT IS A FOURPLEX. UM, ANYWAY, WE'VE, WE'RE SO FAR IN THE IDEA OF BEING A DUPLEX, WE'D HAVE TO TEAR DOWN TO MAKE IT A DUPLEX BECAUSE THE BACK TWO UNITS ARE STANDING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S NO WALLS BETWEEN THEM AND THE STUFF IN THE FRONT. SO, I DUNNO IF THERE'S A PICTURE. IF YOU COULD SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE. OH, I'M SORRY MA'AM. IF YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK, CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE, CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE? THANK YOU. I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PICTURE, BUT IN THE BACK, UH, THE STAIRWAY TO THE, THE APARTMENT, UH, AT, AT, AT THE TOP, THE STAIRWAY THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED, WHAT USED TO BE THERE AND WHAT WAS CONSTRUCTED. I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE NIGHT AND DAY. IT LOOKS LIKE FORD KNOX . ANYWAY, SHE'S, SHE'S VERY PROUD OF OUR STAIRS. ANYWAY, UM, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS. I KNOW, UH, MR. SIPES, YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE DISTRICT SEVEN. UH, THE, WE'VE GOT A VERY GOOD RECEPTION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEY DID. THEY, THEY ASKED US WHAT, WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO, HOW, HOW WE GONNA SELL, UH, YOU KNOW, CREDIT REPORTS, ALL THAT KINDA STUFF. THEY'RE CONCERNING THE QUALITY OF THE RENTERS. THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA BE ALL OVER THAT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. WE, WE, WE ARE SO FAR IN, UH, IT WOULD COST US AT LEAST AS MUCH AS WE'VE INVESTED NOW TO TRY AND MAKE IT USABLE, UH, AS JUST A DUPLEX. UM, AND LIKE I SAY, 40 YEARS IN IT'S, WE, WE DIDN'T PLAN THIS. UH, AND WE ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE ZONING BUSINESS. UH, ONE, WE WERE GETTING ADDITIONAL PERMITS TO GO INSIDE AND DO SOME MORE OF THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO FINISH THE WORK. SO WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF HALFWAY THROUGH THIS. ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? UM, WE DID HAVE A VOICEMAIL, BUT IT WAS MR. ACOSTA WHO HAD CALLED US, SO, ALRIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO IT COMES TO ME TO ASK QUESTIONS FIRST. SO, UM, YOU ANSWERED MY FIRST QUESTION THAT WAS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE, OF THE, UM, OF THE, THE PROPERTY. UM, BECAUSE I'M NOSY, OF COURSE I LOOK TO MAKE SURE IT'S LIKE, OH, SO Y'ALL HAVE OWNED THIS A LONG TIME AND I VERIFIED THAT. UM, THE OTHER QUESTION IS ON, ON UTILITY METER. HOW MANY ME? OKAY. OKAY. THERE, THERE, THERE'S AN ISSUE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO, UM, ONE OF THE METERS WAS REMOVED 'CAUSE WE WERE STARTING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOME OF OUR RENTERS AND ONE OF THEM DID A BRIDGE BETWEEN ONE AND THE OTHER. SO CPS REMOVED ONE OF THE METERS. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT WAS APPROPRIATE ACTION. WE WERE NEVER INFORMED. MY, MY PROPERTY MANAGER NEVER TOLD ME THAT THAT HAD HAPPENED AND I NEVER CAUGHT IT. 'CAUSE I DON'T GO AROUND THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHEN I GO TO VISIT THE PLACE. OKAY. SO, UH, YES, ONE OF THE METERS WAS TAKEN OUT. WE'VE BEEN IN THE PROCESS, WE'VE DONE ALL THE ELECTRICAL NECESSARY TO REPLACE ALL FOUR. YOU REPLACE THAT ONE METER. SO WE'VE GOT FOUR ONE FOR EACH UNIT, UH, YOU KNOW, OPERATING THERE. THE CPS IS WAITING FOR US TO HAVE THE RESTRICTION ON PERMITS LIFTED SO THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND FINISH THAT. OKAY. SO, SO ORIGINALLY, SO THERE, THERE WERE FOUR METERS? THERE WERE FOUR METERS THERE? YES. FOUR. AND THEN OF COURSE ONE WAS TAKEN OUT, THEN THERE WAS, THE PLAN IS TO PUT, TO HAVE THE FOURTH ONE BACK. OKAY. UM, AND BY THE WAY, WE ACTUALLY UPGRADED WHEN WE MET WITH THE, IF YOU COULD GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC. SORRY. SHE CAN'T, IT'S OKAY. WE ACTUALLY MET WITH THE ELECTRICIAN. UH, HE, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE CONDITION OF THE METERS, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, PUT A LITTLE MORE MONEY INTO IT, YOU KNOW YOU'RE [00:50:01] GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA UPGRADE THIS AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT A MUCH BETTER, YOU KNOW, FUNCTIONING FOR THE, FOR THE UNIT. YEAH. BASICALLY WE GOT IT UP TO, UP TO CODE AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO WE, SO WE ACTUALLY UPGRADED AND SPENT THE ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THAT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. LET ME SEE IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I THINK I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS, SEE IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS. FIRST. COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. ANY QUESTIONS? NO ONE'S EVEN LOOKING AT, OH, THERE COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. IT WAS JUST A QUESTION FOR STAFF. WHAT WAS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ALTERNATIVE? FOR THEM, IT'S A ALTERNATIVE OF TWO UNITS. OH, GOTCHA. WHICH IS OKAY. RIGHT. UM, WHICH JUST MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM. OKAY, THANK YOU. THEY HAVE THE, THEY HAVE THE B TWO R FOUR CONVERSION, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO DUPLEX, UM, BY, RIGHT. SO. OKAY. THANK YOU CHRISTIE. ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER WIT, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? OH, I'M JUST LOOKING AT YOUR OLD PICTURES. SO ORIGINALLY YOU WERE JUST A DIRT DRIVEWAY? YES. AND YES, IT WAS, IT WAS AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD GET TOO MUCH WATER AND WE WOULD HAVE THEM PUT IN GRAVEL AND THAT GOT, WOULD KICK GET KICKED OUT. SO NOW WE, WE WENT WITH CONCRETE ALL THE WAY DOWN AND THE ACROSS AND IT'S SURPRISED US HOW MUCH THAT COST. OKAY. AND STAFF ON THE, UH, IF WE ARE TO OVER TO YOUR DENIAL AND GIVE THIS TO THEM, UH, FOR FOUR UNITS, DO THEY HAVE TO GET A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION OR YOU ADD SOMETHING, YOU JUST AMEND THE NO, THEY, UH, IF YOU GO WITH STAFF'S ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, THEN THEY CAN ONLY DO TWO UNITS. IF YOU GO WITH THE REQUEST AS THEY HAVE PRESENTED IT FOR THE FOUR UNITS, IT PROCEEDS FORWARD THAT WAY. ALRIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, I THINK STAFF ALREADY ANSWERED THE QUESTION BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIT IT AGAIN. SO, UM, AS IT IS, THEY WOULD HAVE A DUPLEX BY RIGHT, DESPITE THE FACT THAT BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSION, NOT BECAUSE OF THE BASE ZONING. WELL, THE BASE ZONING FROM ALLOWS IT BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSION. YES. . ALRIGHT, FAIR ENOUGH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT, WHAT THAT, WHERE THAT CAME FROM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE. COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? NONE. ALRIGHT. I I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND, UM, CAN I SAY ONE LAST THING? UH, OKAY, SURE. ONE LAST THING. I, I JUST, AND I, I'M SURE THAT YOUR MEMORIES ARE GREAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE FOURPLEX HAS BEEN THERE AND HAS FUNCTION AS A FOURPLEX FOR OVER FOUR DECADES. THAT, THAT'S IT? YES. UM, ALL RIGHT. THIS IS, THIS IS, I WILL, I WILL FREELY ADMIT THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HARD CASE. AND, AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK AND 99% OF THE TIME, IF, IF, IF THERE'S IN, IN A SINGLE FAMILY, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IF IT, IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK, THAT'S, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE CHOICE OF WORDS, BUT, YOU KNOW, A, A, A, A GREATER INCREASE OF DENSITY. UM, I REALLY HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THAT. HOWEVER, UM, I RECOGNIZE THAT Y'ALL DID MEET WITH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I RECEIVED THEIR LETTER OF SUPPORT. I READ THROUGH IT AND, AND, AND OF COURSE DISCUSSING IT WITH, UH, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN STAFF. UM, YOU KNOW, HEARING THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CHANGES MY OPINION SOMEWHAT. UM, IF Y'ALL HAD BOUGHT THIS HOUSE LAST YEAR, AND I KNOW THIS GOES AGAINST A TON OF STUFF WHERE I SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THINGS LIKE THAT SHOULDN'T MATTER. UM, BUT BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A FOURPLEX AND, AND I, IN FACT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION CONFIRMED THAT, UM, IT'S BEEN A FOURPLEX FOR DECADES, UM, AND YOU ARE LONGTIME OWNERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR DECADES, UM, THEN THIS WILL BE THE 1% TIME WHERE I WILL [00:55:01] ACTUALLY MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY ME WITH A SECOND BY, WAS THAT YOU COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. OKAY. DIS DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ON, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, COLONEL ACOSTA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE FIRST. SURE. UM, UH, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THAT SERVICE IS APPRECIATED, BUT FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT, UH, CHAIR S SIPES INDICATED, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION, UM, YOU KNOW, LIVING IN AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL, WHERE WE DO HAVE LONG-TERM MISSING MIDDLE FOURPLEXES. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SIPES THAT NORMALLY I WOULD NOT WANNA SEE A FOURPLEX IN, UH, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE BLOCK. BUT THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE ARE IN FACT THESE EXISTING USES. UH, TO GET RID OF THEM IS TO REDUCE HOUSING STOCK. AND SO FOR THAT REASON AS WELL AS THE REASONS NOTED BY COMMISSIONER SIPES, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? OTHER COMMERS ON MY LEFT? NOT, WAS THAT YOU COMMISSIONER BOTTLES? WERE YOU RAISING? OKAY, I'M, I'M ALSO GONNA SUPPORT THIS. I THINK IT'S A HUGE, UH, IMPROVEMENT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TOO, SO CONGRATULATIONS. IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. YEAH. THANK YOU. YOU ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER CHASE. I'M ALSO SUPPORTING THIS, UM, WITH IT BEING SO CLOSE TO THE UNIVERSITY. UM, I'VE HAD A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT WENT THERE AND THEY ALWAYS THOUGHT OF IT AS A COMMUTER SCHOOL, SO I'M HOPING THAT AS WE INCREASE SOME DENSITY A LITTLE BIT, WE'LL GET SOME STUDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UM, IT WON'T BE SEEN AS JUST A COMMUTER SCHOOL ANYMORE. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE LIKE A FIVE MINUTE WALK. YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE SORORITY HOUSE THAT WAS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? THE STREET? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. BETTY. ALL RIGHT. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY WE'VE, ALRIGHT. SORRY NOT TO GO INTO IT. WE BOTH LIVE CLOSE TO Y'ALL IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING. UM, ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA. UH, I'LL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THIS, NOT JUST 'CAUSE MY WIFE'S A ST. MARY'S ALUM, BUT, UM, I, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. OTHER COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST A LITTLE GIDDY BECAUSE OUR LAST MEETING LASTED UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND, AND, AND SO THIS IS KIND OF UNUSUAL FOR US TO BE THIS CLOSE TO THE END OF A MEETING. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT. UH, MOTION. I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT. OH. OH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THEM ADD BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SEE IT ON HERE. UM, A NOTATION ABOUT SIX PARKING SPACES. THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE SIX PARKING SPACES. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE MAY HAVE TO EXPAND THE PAD. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 'CAUSE IT'S A NARROW STREET. UM, OKAY. SO THE, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY ME WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. KELLUM. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. CHAIR SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER OSA? YES. COMMISSIONER REYES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITSON? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I [Approval of Minutes  ] GUESS THE FINAL ITEM IS MINUTES. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE, TO THE MINUTES? COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE? UH, YEAH. CHAIR SIPES. I NOTICED A, THERE WAS A MISSPELLING OF SEEDED, UH, AS IN SEEDING FOR THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF CHAMPIONSHIPS, WHICH TEXAS SHOULD WIN. UM, INSTEAD OF SEEDED AS IN GIVE UP. CEDE. UH, I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN CORRECTED ALREADY. UH, OKAY. JUST THAT CHANGE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS NOTED. ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS OR FOOTBALL COMMENTS? ? UM, SEEING NONE ON MY LEFT, LEFT, NONE ON MY RIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. A, UH, WITH THAT CORRECTION OBJECTION. ALRIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED OR AMENDED, UM, BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. HEARING NONE. ALRIGHT, GREAT. [Director’s Report  ] IS THERE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? THERE IS. OH. OH, WHAT, WHAT NEXT YEAR SCHEDULE. RIGHT. IT'S ACTUALLY A SURPRISE. SO [01:00:01] SURPRISE. UM, BE PREPARED TO BE HERE AT NOON FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN HAVE A CHRISTMAS FEAST. YES. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ARE Y'ALL DOING THE SAME FOR PLANNING COMMISSION? NO. AWESOME. THAT'S EVEN BETTER. EVEN BETTER. EVEN BETTER. QUESTION FOR STAFF, PLEASE. WOULD THERE BE A FESTIVUS POLL AVAILABLE? ? SURE. YEAH. JUST FOR THE REST OF US. UM, ALL RIGHT. AND THAT WAS IT. DIRECT. ALRIGHT, SO THE TIME IS 2 0 2 AND IS IT REALLY JUST 2 0 2 ? IT'S ALL RIGHT. AND THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURN. THANK YOU ALL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.