Sep 11, 2019 Intergovernmental Relations Committee on 2019-09-11 10:00 AM

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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRA.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

COUNCIL MEMBER CABELLO.

HEDA.

COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL.

COUNCIL CHAIRMAN, PALS CHAIRMAN.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY.

UH, WELCOME TO OUR I G R COMMITTEE, UH, OF, UH, SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2019.

I, UH, AM

[1. 19-6832 Approval of the minutes from the February 20, 2019 meeting of the Intergovernmental Relations Committee.]

COUNCILWOMAN VERAN.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? HUH? YOU WANNA APPROVE IN THE MINUTES? UH, YEAH.

LET'S SAY I MAKE A MOTION.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES HEARING? NO OPPOSITION.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

UH, WE'VE

[2. 19-6845 Briefing and possible action on federal and state firearm proposals [Jeff Coyle, Director, Government & Public Affairs]]

CHAIR.

CHAIR? YES, MA'AM.

UM, COULD, COULD WE, COULD YOU LEAD US IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR, UH, THE 18 YEARS? THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.

UH, IT'S, UM, WE'RE GOING TO OBSERVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE LIVES LOST, UH, DURING THE NINE 11 MASSACRES.

UH, IF YOU ALL JOIN ME IN STANDING AND, UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

JEFF.

OKAY.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

MEMBERS, GOOD MORNING.

UH, JEFF COYLE WITH THE GOVERNMENT PUBLIC AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT.

WE HAD A, THE CONVERSATION AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THE, UH, GUN REFORMS. UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DEVELOPMENTS SENT SINCE THEN.

SO WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE THINGS STOOD AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL ON THIS ISSUE.

WE'VE, WE'VE SORT OF PULLED THIS ITEM OUT OF THE, UH, BROADER STATE AND FEDERAL UPDATES THAT FOLLOW, UH, BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF IT AND THE INTEREST BY THE COUNCIL, UH, IN, IN THIS ISSUE.

UH, SO, UH, AS I BELIEVE YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT WERE PASSED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, UH, EARLY IN THE YEAR BY, UH, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

UH, THE FIRST WAS HR EIGHT, WHICH WAS A BIPARTISAN BACKGROUND CHECKS ACT OF 2019.

IT ESSENTIALLY BROADENS THE FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK SYSTEM TO INCLUDE MANY PRIVATE SALES, UH, BETWEEN PERSONS WHO ARE NOT LICENSED, UH, FIREARMS SALESPEOPLE.

UH, THE BILL PASSED LARGELY ALONG PARTY LINES TWO 40 TO ONE 90, UH, FROM OUR DELEGATION, CONGRESSMAN CASTRO QUAY, OUR DOGGETT AND HERD ALL VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT WITH CONGRESSMAN ROY VOTING AGAINST IT.

UH, THE SECOND PIECE OF LEGISLATION PASSED THE NEXT DAY ON FEBRUARY 28TH, 2019, WAS HR 1112.

THE ENHANCED BACKGROUNDS CHECK.

THIS ESSENTIALLY EXPANDS THE AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, THAT AN ENTITY HAS TO CONDUCT.

GOVERNMENT ENTITY HAS TO CONDUCT THE BACKGROUND CHECK FROM THREE DAYS TO 10 DAYS.

AND IT ELIMINATES A RULE, A CURRENT RULE, THAT IF THAT BACKGROUND CHECK IS NOT COMPLETED WITHIN THOSE THREE DAYS, UH, THE, THE, UH, CHECK IS AUTOMATICALLY CLEARED.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE, THE SALE IS PERMITTED TO GO THROUGH.

SO THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR AN OPPORTUNITY IF A BACKGROUND CHECK IS NOT COMPLETED IN THE PERIOD OF TIME REQUIRED, UH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD STILL HOLD UP THE SALE UNTIL, UH, IT IS, IT ALSO WAS A GENERALLY PARTY LINE VOTE IN THE HOUSE.

UM, ALMOST THE SAME, UH, BREAKDOWN WITH CASTRO CUELLAR AND DOGGETT VOTING IN FAVOR OF IT HEARD AND ROY, UH, VOTING AGAINST IT.

SO THAT'S IN THE, UM, HOUSE.

UH, BOTH PIECES OF LEGISLATION MOVED OVER TO THE SENATE AND THERE WERE URGES.

UH, THERE WERE REQUESTS FROM HOUSE LEADERSHIP FOR THE SENATE TO ACT THIS SUMMER.

UH, GIVEN THE EVENTS OF THIS SUMMER, UH, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

THE, THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER DID NOT CALL THE SENATE BACK.

THEY JUST RESUMED, UH, FROM THEIR SUMMER RECESS THIS PAST WEEK.

UH, AND WE'RE WAITING AND WATCHING TO SEE WHETHER THERE ARE ANY DEVELOPMENTS.

IT'S BECOME, AS, AS YOU UNDERSTAND, WELL, A VERY PARTISAN ISSUE.

AND IT APPEARS TO BE A, A STANDOFF BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND SENATE IN TERMS OF, UH, THOSE TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION.

UM, I'M GONNA PAUSE FOR A SECOND TO FOLLOW UP ON AN ITEM THAT, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS AMENDING OUR FEDERAL PROGRAM CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE ACTIONS THE COUNCIL HAS TAKEN RECENTLY.

NUMBER ONE, UH, THE LANGUAGE YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU RELATED TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS, UH, ALREADY IN OUR FEDERAL PROGRAM.

IT IS UNDER, UH, OUR LEGISLATIVE ISSUES CATEGORY, WHERE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE NOT OUR DESIGNATED TOP PRIORITIES, BUT NONETHELESS, IMPORTANT ISSUES, UH,

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AT THE LAST MEETING, WE HAVE, UH, MOVED THAT UP TO OUR PRIORITY ITEMS. SO THE SAME DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LANGUAGE SUPPORT FOR PROGRAMS AND FUNDING AND EDUCATION, UH, WOULD, WOULD MOVE TO OUR PRIORITIES WHERE IT WOULD JOIN MILITARY PROTECTION.

HOUSING AVIATION, AND TRANSPORTATION BECOME OUR, OUR FIFTH PRIORITY.

THE SECOND ITEM, UH, RELATED TO FIREARM SAFETY, IS NOT CURRENTLY IN OUR FEDERAL PROGRAM AT ALL.

OF COURSE, THE COUNCIL, AS A, AS A FULL BODY, HAS PASSED THE, UH, RESOLUTION ASKING THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO, TO ACT ON, UH, GUN REFORM.

AND SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT, AND FORMALLY ADDING THE LANGUAGE TO OUR FEDERAL PROGRAM.

SO, FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION, WE WOULD RECOMMEND ACTION BY, UH, THIS BODY TO APPROVE THOSE CHANGES AND MOVE IT FORWARD TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

UH, AT THE STATE LEVEL.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF, OF CALLS FOR THE GOVERNOR TO CALL A SPECIAL SESSION TO ADDRESS, UH, GUN REFORMS. HE HAS RESISTED DOING THAT TO THIS POINT.

UH, WHAT HE HAS DONE IS CREATE A, UH, UH, TWO, UH, TA, ONE TASK FORCE AND ONE COMMISSION, UH, A DOMESTIC TERRORISM TASK FORCE, UH, FOCUSED ON, UH, ANALYZING EMERGING THREATS AND, AND HOW, UH, ENTITIES, INTERGOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES CAN BETTER COLLABORATE TO IDENTIFY AND PREVENT THEM.

UH, THE TEXAS SAFETY COMMISSION WAS CREATED TO, UH, ROOT OUT, UH, DOMESTIC TERRORISM AND ADDRESS THE LINK OF MENTAL HEALTH AND GUN VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

UM, THE, THE DOMESTIC TERRORISM TASK FORCE HAS MET ONCE SO FAR ON AUGUST 30TH, THE COMMISSION HAS MET TWICE.

THOSE HAVE LARGELY BEEN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

THERE WAS AN OPEN, UH, INTRODUCTION, UH, WITH THE GOVERNOR, AND THEN, UH, WHICH WAS BROADCAST AND LIVE STREAMED.

UH, AND THEN THEY WENT INTO PRIVATE MEETINGS.

THEY'RE NOT LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEES PER SE.

THERE ARE MEMBERS, LEGISLATIVE MEMBERS INVOLVED, BUT THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF, UH, EXPERTS IN THE FIELD INVOLVED.

AND SO, UH, TO DATE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS AT THOSE INITIAL MEETINGS.

UH, MEANWHILE, THE GOVERNOR JUST LAST WEEK ISSUED A SERIES OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS, UH, TO, IN HIS WORDS, HELP PREVENT FURTHER MASS SHOOTINGS BY ENHANCING REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND ENSURING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE PUBLIC HAVE THE TRAINING TOOLS AND RESOURCES THEY NEED TO RESPOND TO SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY.

THE BULK OF THOSE EXECUTIVE ORDERS WERE FOCUSED ON SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORTS, A A STANDARDIZED SET OF QUESTIONS THAT D P S WOULD ASK WHEN SOMEONE CALLS TO REPORT SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY.

UH, SOME CLEAR GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF, UH, HOW AND WHEN, UH, LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, A, A AGENCIES SHOULD SUBMIT SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORTS, UH, WAYS TO BETTER INFORM SCHOOLS, UH, ON HOW TO IDENTIFY ISSUES AND, AND, AND FILE THOSE REPORTS.

UH, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, UH, A REQUIREMENT THAT ANY COUNTY, BECAUSE COUNTIES HANDLE, UH, THE JUDICIAL SIDE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, UH, ANY GRANTS THAT COME FROM, UH, THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, TWO COUNTIES, WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE COUNTY REPORT AT LEAST 90% OF CONVICTIONS WITHIN SEVEN DAYS TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEM, UH, AT D P S.

UH, SO THOSE ARE EXECUTIVE ORDERS DIRECTED DOWN, UH, TO THE STATE AGENCY BY THE GOVERNOR THIS WEEK.

UH, LAST WEEK ON THE LEGISLATIVE FRONT, UH, THE HOUSE AND SENATE HAVE ESTABLISHED COMMITTEES TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE.

UH, THE HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE ON MASS VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND COMMUNITY SAFETY INCLUDES, UH, FROM OUR DELEGATION REPRESENTATIVE BARBARA GERVIN HAWKINS, JD PRAZA IS HERE FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE'S OFFICE, UH, AND WE'LL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH, WITH THEIR OFFICE TO PROVIDE ANY SUPPORT THEY NEED AS THEY LOOK AT LEGISLATIVE FIXES.

AND THEN THE SENATE COMMITTEE, UH, INCLUDES FROM OUR DELEGATION, UH, SENATOR DONNA CAMPBELL.

UH, AND THAT IS THE, THE ONLY, THOSE ARE THE ONLY REPRESENTATIVES FROM, FROM HERE.

UH, AS A REMINDER, YOU ALL, UH, AS A, AS A FULL COUNCIL BODY, PASSED A RESOLUTION AUGUST 15TH, CALLING FOR ACTION AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL.

UH, THAT RESOLUTION DIRECTED THE CITY MANAGER TO SEND A LETTER AND THE RESOLUTION TO A NUMBER OF OUR, UH, STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS, SPECIFICALLY THE GOVERNOR, LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, UH, OUR FULL BEXAR COUNTY DELEGATIONS AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL, UH, THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, AND ALL TEXAS CITIES WITH A POPULATION GREATER THAN 500,000.

WE HAVE SINCE DONE THAT.

THE MANAGER HAS SENT THAT LETTER, AND THEY'VE ALL RECEIVED THAT.

AND WE'RE CONTINUING THE DIALOGUE ABOUT THE INTEREST, UH, FROM THIS BODY, UH, TO SEE ACTION.

AND FINALLY, I'LL, UH, I'LL, I'LL END WITH A REMINDER THAT, UH, WE ARE LARGELY LIMITED BY BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL LAW, UH, IN, IN TERMS OF MOST MEANINGFUL REFORMS AROUND THE ISSUE OF FIREARMS. UH, SPECIFICALLY, LAW PREVENTS CITIES FROM ADOPTING REGULATIONS THAT RELATE TO THE

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AND THIS PAST SESSION THAT PREEMPTION WAS BROADENED THROUGH HOUSE BILL 32 31 TO ADD THE POSSESSION, WEARING, CARRYING STORAGE AND COMMERCE OF FIREARMS AND MUNITION.

SO, OBVIOUSLY, SOLUTIONS AT THE LOCAL LI UH, LEVEL ARE LIMITED AND, AND SOMEWHAT AROUND THE, THE EDGES OF, UH, THE CENTRAL ISSUES RELATED TO GUN VIOLENCE AND GUN REFORM.

AND SO I KNOW THE CHIEF IS HERE, OUR, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS HERE, UH, WHO'S CLOSELY INVOLVED.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, JEFF.

UM, I'LL, UH, INVITE QUESTIONS FROM MY FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS IF THEY'VE GOT ANY.

SO WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN VIE.

THANK YOU.

UM, JEFF, ON THE LOCAL LIMITATIONS AND ALL OF THOSE, UM, NEW PROHIBITIONS, I GUESS THAT WERE ADDED IN SEPTEMBER, CORRECT? SEPTEMBER ONE, THE CARRYING AND WEARING THE RIGHT.

CORRECT.

THE, UH, THE, UH, PREEMPTIONS OF OUR AUTHORITY.

CORRECT.

THE PREEMPTIONS.

SO I'M TRYING TO, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND THE SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MEAN BY SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN, UM, I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEAR, IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A MAN WALKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AT NIGHT WITH WEARING HIS, HIS GUN, UH, JUST OPEN CARRY AND PEOPLE WERE SCARED BY IT.

UM, SO THAT THEN YOU'RE TELLING ME IS LEGAL AND PEOPLE CAN CALL IN, BUT NOTHING CAN HAPPEN.

WELL, LET ME, LET ME ASK THE CHIEF TO COME UP, IF YOU WOULD, BUT I'LL SAY JUST GENERALLY WHAT, WHAT ESSENTIALLY THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS ATTEMPT TO DO IS CREATE SOME STANDARDIZATION AROUND WHAT IS SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY AND THE REPORTING OF IT.

SO I THINK IT'S INTENDED TO DEFINE THAT AND CREATE SOME STANDARDS FOR, UM, IDENTIFYING THAT.

SO, UH, JEFF IS CORRECT COUNSEL WHEN THERE'S, OR I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID IT, YOU OR JEFF, BUT NO, THERE, IF, IF WE GET A CALL FOR SOMEONE CARRYING A GUN, WE'LL GO CHECK IT OUT.

BUT BEYOND THAT, UNLESS THE PERSON IS VIOLATING SOME LAW, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO OR CAN DO ABOUT IT LEGALLY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND SO I THINK, AND I DON'T KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEFING.

I, I'M JUST GONNA SHARE HERE THAT I HOPE YOU CAN PASS ON TO OUR REPRESENTATIVE, UM, BARBARA GRIFFIN HAWKINS, JUST SOME CONCERNS THAT I HAVE WITH THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS, BECAUSE THEN IF WE OUTLINE WHAT LOOKS LIKE SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR, BEHAVIOR THAT SUSPECT, COULD THEY OUTLINE IT? COULD THAT POTENTIALLY BE RACIAL PROFILING AS WELL? THAT THEY CAN SAY, THIS IS DEFINED AS, AS SU SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR, IF YOU LOOK LIKE THIS, IF YOU'RE CARRYING THIS KIND OF GUN OR WHAT HAVE YOU, COULD THAT THEORETICALLY BE OUTLINED IN THESE? I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED A LEGAL OPINION OR IF I NEED, I GUESS IT WOULD ALL DEPEND ON HOW IT'S SPELLED OUT AND WHATEVER ELSE IS PUT OUT.

UM, RIGHT.

SO I THINK IT CERTAINLY COULD BE, GO AHEAD.

SO I THINK MY CONCERN ON THIS, OR THINGS THAT I THINK WE AT A LOCAL LEVEL NEED TO BE AWARE OF IS WHAT DEFINITIONS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN THROUGH THIS COMMISSION LOOKING AT IT.

WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR, I HOPE WE GIVE OUR EXPERT OR OUR PERSPECTIVE FROM THE LOCAL LEVEL OF THE IMPACTS THAT IT WOULD BE HAVING AT THE, AT FOR THE RESIDENTS, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN AND AROUND SAN ANTONIO.

DO WE HAVE THAT AVENUE TO DO THAT? THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DETAIL THAT I SAW OTHER THAN WHAT, THAN WHAT, UH, THE GOVERNOR PUT OUT.

I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.

UH, SO IT'S LACKING THE DETAIL THAT WE WOULD NEED TO KIND OF FORM AN OPINION ON THOSE THINGS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, JEFF, DID YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING? YES, I THINK THAT CHIEF'S, RIGHT.

ALL WE'VE SEEN ARE THE ORDERS AT THIS POINT.

UM, OUR LOBBY TEAM JUST WHISPERED TO ME THAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE SELECT COMMITTEES WILL BE LOOKING AT.

I MEAN, CERTAINLY THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS ARE DIRECT TO THE STATE AGENCIES MM-HMM.

, BUT THE LEGISLATIVE BODY WILL HAVE A SAY IN THAT.

AND SO OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR PROVIDING INPUT, UH, WOULD LIKELY OCCUR AT THAT LEVEL.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTION I HAVE NOW.

THANK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN.

UH, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL.

THANK YOU.

YOU, UH, THANK YOU CHAIR.

THANK YOU, JEFF.

UH, VERY THOROUGH.

UM, MEMO AND AND PRESENTATION HERE.

I JUST HAVE, UH, ONE QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THIS

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AND THERE WEREN'T ANY PARTICULAR RESTRICTIONS, UH, AROUND THOSE.

UM, HAVE YOU OR YOUR TEAM THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, ANY ACTION WE COULD TAKE AROUND THAT, OR WHETHER THAT COULD BE SOMETHING STUDIED IN THE INTERIM? WE, WE HAVE NOT, AT THIS POINT, IT'S NOT BEEN A, A DIRECTIVE, UH, IN TERMS OF OUR STATE AGENDA.

UM, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND WE COULD PROVIDE SOME INPUT.

I DON'T, I HATE TO KEEP RELYING ON THE CHIEF HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.

BUT SHORT ANSWER IS NO, FROM A, FROM A INTERGOVERNMENTAL STANDPOINT, WE HAVE NOT.

UM, WELL, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT YOU JUST CONSIDER THAT.

UM, AND THEN I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF IN TERMS OF OUR POLICE FORCE.

WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE OUR PRACTICES WHEN WE REPLACE THE, THE WEAPONS THAT WE HAVE? BY, BY CONTRACT, BY THE LABOR CONTRACT, WE, UH, GIVE AN OFFICER WHO'S RETIRED HONORABLY THEIR FIREARM ONE, AND ANYONE WHO MAY LEAVE PRIOR TO RETIRING, IF THEY WANT THEIR FIREARM, THEY HAVE TO BUY IT.

AND ONE, AND WE DON'T SELL RIFLES, WE SIMPLY SELL THE ISSUE, UH, HANDGUN THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY CARRIED.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR COUNCILWOMAN.

UH, ADRIANA ROCHA, THANK YOU, CHAIR.

AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF, WELL, A FEW QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS FOR CHIEF AND CHIEF, YOU MIGHT JUST WANNA STAY UP FOR A LITTLE BIT.

UM, SO THE ORDERS, THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT THE GOVERNOR PASSED ON SAYS WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ORDER.

AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF WE'RE READY TO IMPLEMENT, FOR INSTANCE, UM, THE REPORTING PROCESSES THAT THEY'VE, UM, ASKED FOR US TO DO.

COUNSEL, WHAT? I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE KIND OF GARBLED.

I CAN'T, OH, I'M SORRY.

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND.

ARE WE PREPARED WITHIN 30 DAYS, UH, TO EXECUTE THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT WAS SENT TO US SPECIFICALLY ON REPORTING INFORMATION ON SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY? , I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILWOMAN.

I'M SORRY.

SO, UH, PERHAPS IT'S A MICROPHONE.

THE, UH, EXECUTIVE ORDER SET OUT SOME OBLIGATIONS, UH, FOR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO REPORT UP.

RIGHT.

UM, THE QUESTION IS, IS ARE WE READY TO, AND DO WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO WROTE? SURE.

I, I'M SORRY, COUNSEL, BUT I, I JUST COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

UH, WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH DETAIL ABOUT WHERE THAT, WHERE REPORTS WOULD GO OR, OR, OR WHAT CONTENT WOULD BE IN THEM THERE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A PRETTY CROWDED FIELD OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS, UH, REPORTING THAT KIND OF INFORMATION.

AND THIS SEEMS TO MAKE THE FIELD A LITTLE BIT MORE CROWDED.

I MEAN, WE HAVE FUSION CENTER, WE HAVE F B I, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL INVOLVEMENT AND ALL THESE THINGS.

SO THIS ADDS SEEMS TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER TO THAT.

AND WITHOUT SEEING ANY OF THE DETAIL ABOUT HOW THIS WORKS, I, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW.

UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD WORK.

CAN I ADD, YEAH.

UM, I DIDN'T GO THROUGH ALL THE, I SORT OF SKIMMED AS WE WENT THROUGH, BUT LET ME READ THE FIRST TWO IF WE COULD.

THE, THE FIRST ONE IS THAT D P S, THE STATE D P S SHALL DEVELOP STANDARDIZED INTAKE QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE USED BY ALL TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO BETTER IDENTIFY WHETHER A PERSON CALLING THE AGENCY HAS INFORMATION THAT SHOULD BE REPORTED TO THE SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY NETWORK.

THE SECOND ONE IS THAT D P SS WILL DEVELOP CLEAR GUIDANCE FOR WHEN AND HOW TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES SHOULD SUBMIT THOSE REPORTS.

I SAY THAT BECAUSE THEN THE THIRD ITEM SAYS THAT THEY, THE COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL MAKE TRAINING AVAILABLE TO EDUCATE ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ON NUMBER ONE AND TWO.

AND THEY WILL CONDUCT AN EXTENSIVE PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT HOW THOSE REPORTS ARE USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND HOW THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE THEM.

SO I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS THE DIRECTION FROM THE GOVERNOR TO THE STATE AGENCY TO ACT, AND THERE WILL BE THEN A TRICKLE DOWN OF THE INFORMATION TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITHIN, UH, UH, THAT SYSTEM.

GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

'CAUSE THAT ANSWERS MY NEXT QUESTION, BECAUSE IT TALKED ABOUT THIS 60 DAYS TRAINING PERIOD.

AND MY NEXT QUESTION TO CHIEF WAS GOING TO BE, DO WE HAVE, UM, I GUESS ENOUGH TRAINING ON, OR DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME BUDGETED ON HAND TO HAVE POLICE OFFICERS ATTEND THIS? WILL THEY BE PULLED AWAY FROM OTHER DUTIES? AND I JUST WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE A PLAN OF SOME SORT OR IF WE'VE STARTED THINKING OF A PLAN.

YEAH.

HOW DOES T CLOSE TO IT? UH, AND, AND I'M AFRAID I CAN'T ANSWER THAT WITHOUT ANY FURTHER DETAIL FROM, FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ON THAT, SO, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE WHEN THAT COMES OUT, UM, HOW IT READS.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS ALSO, UM, REGARDING

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AND I KNOW THAT IT'S, UM, SO WE'RE WAITING PRACTICALLY ON MORE INFORMATION.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT INITIATIVES TO CREATE PUBLIC AWARENESS.

AND MY QUESTION IS THIS, IS THERE A NUMBER, IS THERE A STATE NUMBER WHERE PEOPLE CAN CALL TO REPORT SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITIES? PARTICULARLY, IT TALKS ABOUT IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL MASS SHOOTERS, TERRORISTIC THREATS, ET CETERA.

IS THERE A NUMBER AND DO WE PROMOTE THAT ANYWHERE? IT WOULD START OUT WITH A CALL TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DEPENDING UPON THE, THE, THE, THE URGENCY OF IT.

IT WOULD BE EITHER BE A NINE ONE ONE CALL OR A CALL TO THE REGULAR, UH, UH, 2 0 7 S A P D NUMBER.

OKAY.

SO FOLLOWING UP TO THAT, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE THE SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING CAMPAIGN.

I KNOW SOME OF THEM DO.

I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF THEM DO, BUT I WAS WONDERING, DO WE ALSO WORK WITH THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS? I THINK THEY DO A GOOD JOB OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT.

DO WE COORDINATE, LIKE WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THEY RECEIVE INFORMATION? I'M ASSUMING THEY'LL SEND IT TO, TO, BUT DOES SS A P D WORK AT ALL WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS? WE, WE COORDINATE WITH REGION 20 COUNCILWOMAN, AND MATTER OF FACT, WE HAD A, UH, I ATTENDED A MEETING, UH, JUST PRIOR TO THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR WITH REGION 20 ON SECURITY AND SAFETY ISSUES.

OKAY, GOOD.

AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION IS RELATED TO ACOG.

ACOG HAS SOME TRAINING THAT'S AVAILABLE SPECIFICALLY TO IDENTIFY MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

DO WE HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT TRAINING? ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT ACOG'S TRAINING, UM, IS COMPRISED OF? I, I'M NOT AWARE THE TRAINING COUNCILWOMAN AND I, AND I'M NOT CERTAIN IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICE OR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT POLICE BECAUSE THEY MA'AM TRAINED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SINCE I DIDN'T KNOW IF OUR TRAINING WAS COMPARABLE TO THEIR, OR WE DO OUR OWN AND WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE.

OR WE, WE DO OUR OWN, WE DO THE 40 HOUR CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING FOR, UH, FOLKS ON THE STREET THAT WE MAY, UH, ENCOUNTER WHO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, UH, AT WHATEVER LEVEL THEY MAY BE.

UH, AND OUR ENTIRE, OUR ENTIRE DEPARTMENT IS TRAINED, UH, WITH THAT, UH, 40 HOUR MEMPHIS BLOCK OF TRAINING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

UH, CHIEF, I, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

SORRY, THAT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA WAS GARBLING.

UH, I'LL WORK ON HER.

UH, I THINK IT'S THE, THE POSITION WHERE SHE'S SITTING, NOT SO MUCH COUNCILWOMAN, BUT, BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THIS TOPIC IS, UM, A VERY DIFFICULT ONE TO WRESTLE WITH.

UM, AND I CAN'T THINK OF, UM, A SMARTER AND MORE TRUSTWORTHY GUY TO HELP US THROUGH THIS THAN, THAN YOU.

UH, SO THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THANKS FOR, UH, TALKING TO US.

UH, OH.

COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA WANTS TO TRY AGAIN.

.

SORRY, CHIEF.

SO JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD, SO YOU'LL LET US KNOW, OR, OR SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO LOCALLY VERSUS WHAT IS MANDATED BY THE STATE? LIKE IN YES, MA'AM.

I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE GREAT IDEAS, BUT IF WE CAN'T IMPLEMENT THEM, I, I JUST WANT WHO DO WE RUN THOSE PAST? I GUESS IT'S MORE OF AN ED QUESTION AND HE'S STANDING.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

UM, YES.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GIVEN, UH, TWO BRIEFINGS TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ON POSSIBLE OPTIONS FOR, FOR A HANDGUN AND FIREARM ISSUES.

UM, THE LEGISLATURE WITH, UH, 32, 31 THAT SORT OF ELIMINATED SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS, THE VERY LIMITED OPTIONS WE HAD, AND THEN BROADENED WHAT WAS ESSENTIALLY PROTECTED BY STATE LAW NOW.

SO OUR PREEMPTION IS PRETTY BROAD AND ELIMINATES A LOT OF THINGS, SO, OF THINGS.

SO IT'S MOSTLY GONNA BE PROGRAM AND POLICY TYPE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO AS OPPOSED TO REGULATORY OR CODE TYPE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.

SO I THINK WE CAN VET ALL OF THOSE.

IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, CERTAINLY BRING 'EM FORWARD.

WE'LL WORK WITH THE CHIEF AND WITH YOU TO, TO COME UP WITH WHAT MIGHT BE VIABLE, AND WE'LL CERTAINLY LET YOU KNOW SOMETHING ISN'T VIABLE.

THANKS, ED.

SO, ED, UM, THANKS.

JUST, UH, TWO THINGS.

ONE, THE CHIEF WAS VERY HELPFUL, UH, RECENTLY, UH, HE AND THE SHERIFF SALAZAR AND CHIEF HOOD, AND, UH, GERALD LEWIS, THE CHIEF FROM U T S A, UH, PARTOOK IN A PANEL PRESENTATION AT ONE OF A TOWN HALL THAT WE HOSTED AT THE LIBRARY, THE CENTRAL LIBRARY.

IT WAS, UH, CHIEF, I THINK I, I THINK IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC.

AND, UH, THE ONE THING THAT I KEEP HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC IS THEY WANT THEIR CITY COUNCIL TO DO ALL SORTS OF REGULATIONS AND PROHIBITIONS ON THIS KIND OF GUN OR THAT KIND OF GUN.

AND, UM, I THINK THERE IS A GENERAL MISCONCEPTION OUT THERE AS TO WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'D APPRECIATE, AND, AND I, I'M HEARING, AND I THINK YOU'LL AGREE WITH ME, COUNCILMAN ROCHA, IS IF WE CAN GET EVEN IN JUST A, A DOCUMENT

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, UM, IF YOU CAN SHOW US SORT OF WHAT ARE THE LANES, UH, FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE STATE GOVERNMENT, AND MUNICIPALITIES, WHAT WE, WHAT EACH OF THEM CAN AND CANNOT DO MM-HMM.

BECAUSE OF PREEMPTION, UH, OR THE LIMITS, UH, PLACED ON THEM BY SECOND AMENDMENT CASE LAW.

UM, IF YOU CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT SURE.

SO THAT WE CAN THEN SHARE THAT WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS.

AND WHEN THEY SAY, WE NEED YOU TO BAN AR FIFTEENS IN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, I CAN SAY, LOOK, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO.

RIGHT.

UM, IT'S LITERALLY PREEMPTED CORRECT.

AND WE ARE PROHIBITED FROM DOING THAT.

AND WHEN WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND EDUCATE OUR CONSTITUENTS, THE MORE THEY KNOW THE, THE BETTER WE ARE ALL AT HAVING THOSE KIND OF TOUGH CONVERSATIONS.

AND SO, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GET THAT TO US? YEAH.

WE'LL, WE'LL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT, THAT SORT OF OUTLINE SET.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REGULATORY SCHEME AND THE ABILITY TO DO THINGS, IT'S THE INVERTED PYRAMID FROM LOCAL GOING UP TO FEDS.

YOU KNOW, IT, THERE'S A VERY, VERY SMALL PINPOINT THAT'S AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AND THEN IT EXPANDS UP AS YOU GO TO THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO OUTLINE THAT FOR YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANKS.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

UH,

[3. 19-6846 Update and possible action on federal legislative actions and the 116th Congress [Jeff Coyle, Director, Government & Public Affairs]]

WE DO, I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU OF THE, UH, THE TWO CHANGES TO THE FEDERAL PROGRAM.

UH, WE, YOU COULD CONSIDER IT RIGHT NOW OR AFTER THIS, BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF US FORMALLY MAKING THOSE CHANGES, WE'LL NEED YOUR APPROVAL.

OKAY.

UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, UH, WELL, LET ME FIRST JUMP INTO THIS.

THE, UH, THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR OUR MIGRANT RESOURCE CENTER, UH, WAS SUBMITTED ON FRIDAY.

AS A REMINDER, UH, THERE'S $30 MILLION THAT WAS OF, UH, MADE AVAILABLE IN THE, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET BILL THIS SUMMER.

UH, AND THOSE ARE FOR EXPENDITURES THAT, UH, EXTEND FROM, UH, JANUARY THROUGH JUNE OF THIS YEAR.

UH, WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR, UH, FOR ALL OF OUR, UH, EXPENSES AND, UM, AND SOME OF OUR PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, UH, SUBMITTED, WE SUBMIT TO THE LOCAL UNITED WAY, WHICH SERVES AS THE LOCAL, UH, BOARD, AND THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS UP TO THE NATIONAL BOARD.

UH, AS A REMINDER, 25 OF THE 30 MILLION, UH, APPROVED BY CONGRESS WAS DEDICATED TO THE FOUR BORDER STATES THAT INCLUDE TEXAS.

UH, WE ARE EXPECTING TO KNOW, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, THERE WAS A, UH, NOTICE SENT OUT THIS WEEK THAT THEY HAD EXTENDED THE DEADLINE, UH, FOR SOME ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OF THE LOCAL BOARDS.

THAT REALLY DIDN'T APPLY TO US.

UH, THAT MAY AFFECT THE TIMING A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, WE ARE EXPECTING TO KNOW, UH, SOMETHING PRETTY SHORTLY HERE.

MEANWHILE, UH, CONGRESS IS, IS DEBATING RIGHT NOW THE F Y 20 APPROPRIATIONS.

AND SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH OUR, OUR CHAMPIONS ON THIS ISSUE, WHO HAVE TO DATE, BEEN CONGRESSMAN QUAY ARE, AND SENATOR CORNYN, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS MONEY AGAIN, UH, IN THE UPCOMING FEDERAL BUDGET, HOPEFULLY MORE, UH, THAT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE TO SUBMIT, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THAT.

UM, SO THE, THE BIG ORDER OF BUSINESS NOW THAT CONGRESS IS BACK, UH, IS APPROPRIATIONS AND BACKTRACKING A LITTLE BIT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST MONTH.

UH, UH, BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS, UH, PASSED A BUDGET DEAL, UH, WHICH WAS SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT ON AUGUST 1ST.

THIS SETS THE HIGH LEVEL SPENDING.

SO THERE ARE EFFECTIVELY 12, UH, APPROPRIATIONS BILLS THAT DIVIDE UP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING.

THIS SETS THE, THE BIG NUMBER SO THAT THE, UH, HOUSE AND SENATE CAN THEN DIVIDE UP THOSE NUMBERS AMONGST THE, UH, THE 12 ENTITIES.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

THE, THE MAIN NOTE ON THIS IS THAT THERE IS, UH, THERE ARE SPENDING INCREASES, UH, FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THERE ON THE BOARD.

THE, THE LARGER GROWTH IS, UH, IS IN DEFENSE SPENDING, UH, OR NON-DEFENSE SPENDING, UH, SAW A VERY MODEST BUMP.

UH, SO THEY RETURNED ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.

UH, TECHNICALLY RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE THREE WEEKS, UH, TO PASS, UH, ALL 12 APPROPRIATIONS BILL BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR ENDS SEPTEMBER 30TH, AS YOU KNOW, WELL, THAT RARELY HAPPENS.

UH, THEY OFTEN, UH, UH, PASS A, AN TEMPORARY EXTENSION, UH, USUALLY TO SOME POINT IN MID-DECEMBER.

UH, AND, AND HOUSE LEADERSHIP IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT NOW.

IT'S UNLIKELY THEY WILL GET THROUGH ALL OF THIS BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH.

WE STAND RIGHT NOW AT 10 OF THE 12 APPROPRIATIONS BILLS HAVING BEEN PASSED FULLY BY THE HOUSE.

UH, AND NONE OF THE 12 APPROPRIATIONS BILLS HAVE BEEN PASSED BY THE SENATE.

SO THE LARGE WORK WILL BE IN THE SENATE, AND THEN OF COURSE, THEY WILL HAVE TO CONFERENCE AND RECONCILE THE DIFFERENCES.

UH, HERE ARE A FEW OF THE, THE HIGH LEVEL FUNDING PRIORITIES FOR US.

I THINK COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL, YOU'VE ASKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.

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SO, SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, ESSENTIALLY THE COLUMN ON THE LEFT IS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 19 FUNDING LEVEL.

UH, THE SECOND COLUMN IS WHAT THE PRESIDENT PROPOSED FOR NEXT YEAR.

THAT WAS DONE IN THE SPRING.

IT'S A PROPOSAL TO CONGRESS.

IT'S NOT BINDING IN ANY WAY, BUT IT IS HIS RECOMMENDATION.

UH, AND THEN, UH, THE LAST COLUMN IS WHAT THE HOUSE HAS CURRENTLY PASSED IN ITS APPROPRIATIONS BILL.

A MISSING COLUMN THERE, OF COURSE, IS WHAT THE SENATE, UH, WILL DO IN TERMS OF THOSE FUNDING LEVELS.

SO YOU SEE GENERALLY ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, THE PRESIDENT RECOMMENDING, UH, REDUCTIONS OR ELIMINATIONS OF PROGRAMS THAT MATTER TO US, UH, AND THE HOUSE REJECTING THAT.

AND, UH, PROPOSING INCREASES IN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES.

I'LL RUN DOWN WHAT THEY ARE.

UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BROWNFIELD, THAT'S FUNDING FOR ASSESSMENT AND, AND, UH, CLEANUP OF, OF, UH, POLLUTED SITES FROM FORMER INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS, C D B G AND HOME.

UH, YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF COMMUNITY, UH, FUNDING PROGRAMS FOR HOME OWNERSHIP AND FOR, UH, SIDEWALKS AND OTHER INVESTMENTS.

UH, CHOICE IS SIMILAR.

WE'VE HAD THAT ON THE EAST SIDE IN THE PROMISE ZONE, AND THERE HAVE BEEN EFFORTS TO TRY TO, UH, DUPLICATE IT ON THE WEST SIDE.

UM, COPS FUNDING IS WHAT HAS ALLOWED US TO ADD POLICE OFFICERS IN RECENT YEARS.

UH, FEDERAL GRANTS THAT HAVE, UH, FUNDED, UH, I BELIEVE 25 OFFICERS FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD THAT THEN WE PICK UP THE EXPENSE AFTER THAT.

AWA IS THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT.

WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THAT REAUTHORIZATION IS STILL PENDING.

NONETHELESS, UH, CONGRESS IS TALKING THROUGH THE FUNDING FOR THOSE PROGRAMS AS THEY EXIST TODAY.

AND THEN BUILD IS THE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, PROGRAM THAT WE, UH, WE OFTEN PURSUE.

IT'S, UH, UH, UH, PROPOSED TO SEE A SLIGHT BUMP FROM 900 MILLION TO 1 BILLION.

UH, AND BY THE WAY, ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN SHARED WITH OUR, UH, DELEGATION.

OUR FEDERAL LOBBY TEAM, WHO WAS HERE AT THE LAST MEETING, IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON THIS.

AND, AND WE'RE ESSENTIALLY IN LOCKSTEP WITH CITIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND IN WANTING TO SEE THESE FUNDING LEVELS, UH, GROW, UH, ON THE MILITARY FRONT, THERE ARE, UH, SIX, UH, FIVE PROJECTS, UH, MILCON MILITARY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE HOUSE BUDGET RIGHT NOW.

UM, YOU SEE THEM, THE, THE LIST HERE, AND JUAN CAN SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY TO THEM IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT THE, THE FIRST FIVE ARE SPECIFIC BIG TICKET ITEMS, UH, ON BASES HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

THAT SIXTH ITEM IS NOT FUNDED AT THIS POINT.

THAT IS A, UH, A GRANT PROGRAM THAT WAS, UH, AUTHORIZED, UH, LAST YEAR.

UH, SENATOR CORNYIN WAS A BIG CHAMPION FOR IT.

IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE AT THE STATE LEVEL THROUGH DAG DAG IS THE PROGRAM THAT WE APPLY EVERY YEAR FOR PROJECTS, OFF BASE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS OUTSIDE OUR MILITARY BASES THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CAN'T AND DOESN'T TYPICALLY FUND, UH, OR I SHOULD SAY, DOESN'T TYPICALLY FUND, AND IN SOME CASES CAN'T.

UH, SO THIS PROGRAM WOULD CREATE A SIMILAR POT OF MONEY FOR US TO PURSUE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

IT HAS NOT BEEN FUNDED YET, SO WE ARE PUSHING FOR THAT.

UH, AND WE HAVE A LIST OF, UH, FIVE OR SIX PROJECTS FROM J B S A THAT THEY WOULD, UH, THAT WE WOULD PURSUE FUNDING FOR, IF THAT PROGRAM IS, IS, UH, IS FUNDED.

UH, IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, WHAT WE'VE TYPICALLY DONE IS BRING PROJECTS TO YOU, UH, AS PART OF THE BUDGET TO HELP DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE OF OUR MILITARY BASES.

IN RECENT YEARS, I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WAS THE TOP REQUEST FROM J B S A, UH, ON THE MILITARY FRONT.

UH, AS YOU PROBABLY READ IN THE NEWS THIS WEEK, UH, THE, UH, PRESIDENT, UH, HAS, UH, CALLED ON, UH, A DEFERRING OF A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE PROJECTS, CAPITAL PROJECTS, ABOUT THREE AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF FUNDING TO BE DIVERTED TO FUND THE BORDER WALL PROJECT.

UH, ON THE LIST, THE ONLY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE WERE CONCERNED THERE, THERE WAS A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WERE POTENTIALLY ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK.

THE ONLY ONE THAT LANDED ON THAT LIST WAS A, UH, CAMP, UH, CAMP BULLIS DINING FACILITY, A I BELIEVE A 1930S OR FORTIES, UH, FACILITY THAT, UH, DESPERATELY NEEDS UPGRADING.

IT'S BEEN FUNDED AND APPROPRIATED AND WAS SCHEDULED FOR CONSTRUCTION.

UH, AND IT HAS BEEN DEFERRED NOW, UH, THE PENTAGON HAS ESSENTIALLY, UH, SAID, LOOK, THIS, THIS PROJECT IS NOT BEING CANCELED.

IT WAS NOT, UH, SET TO BEGIN UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

ANYWAY.

UH, SO THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, BEEN SORT OF A, UM, MILD RESPONSE TO THE ISSUE.

OUR DELEGATION IS WELL AWARE AND IS, AND IS MAKING THE ARGUMENT.

MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT, THAT, UH, WE SHOULD NOT BE TAKING FROM ALREADY FUNDED, UH, IMPORTANT MILITARY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS FOR THE BORDER WALL.

AND I'M SURE JUAN CAN ANSWER, UH, MORE IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

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AND I'LL PAUSE THERE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, JEFF.

UH, BEFORE YOU, UH, WALK AWAY, JEFF, CAN, CAN I ASK YOU, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHY IT IS THAT THE CHAMBERS ARE SO, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF THIS? IT'S A DAC, RIGHT? THE DAC, THAT DINING HALL, UH, INITIATIVE, IT SOUNDS LIKE.

WELL, IT'S JUST A DINING HALL.

WHY IS THIS SUCH A BIG DEAL? OR MAYBE, MAYBE, UH, GENERAL YOU CAN HELP US WITH THAT.

HE'S PROBABLY BEST TO TALK ABOUT.

YEAH.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, THAT'S A 1931, UH, DINING FACILITY.

AND, UH, IT'S A CONDEMNED BUILDING.

AND IF YOU EVER HAVE EATEN IN THAT DINING FACILITY, LIKE, UH, LIKE I HAVE, UH, YOU, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED TO REPLACE IT.

UH, CAMP BULLIS ITSELF TRAINS EVERY SINGLE MEDIC AND CORPSMAN, UH, THAT GOES, UH, INTO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

AND SO IT'S AN IMPORTANT TRAINING FACILITY, NOT ONLY FOR THE TRAINING THAT WE DO HERE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GROW MILITARY MISSIONS.

AND IF WE'RE TRYING TO GROW MILITARY MISSIONS, THAT WE NEED THE FACILITIES TO BE ABLE TO, UH, SUPPORT THEM.

UH, QUALITY OF LIFE HAS ALSO BEEN A BIG EMPHASIS BY THE THREE SECRETARIES OF THE, UH, OF, OF OUR SERVICES.

AND, UH, THIS IS PART OF IT.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MILITARY TRAINING AND, UH, GETTING READY FOR WHATEVER THE NATION CALLS ON THE MILITARY TO DO, UH, THIS IS CERTAINLY PART OF, OF THE, OF THE PACKAGE.

UH, I CAN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY ON WHY THE CHAMBER SUPPORT IT.

THEY SHOULD SUPPORT IT, UH, BECAUSE AS YOU WELL KNOW, UH, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO GROW OUR MISSIONS FIRST.

WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THEM HERE, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT.

BUT IF WE KEEP 'EM HERE AND SHOW THE NEXT BACKGROUND THAT, UH, WE HAVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE CHAMBERS ARE EMPHASIZING THIS.

I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

IF, IF WE, IF WE REPLACE THIS, UH, UH, IT WILL SHOW A TANGIBLE, UH, SHOW OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT IN A TANGIBLE SH UH, OF, OF, YOU KNOW, THE MILITARY GROWING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, UH, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'VE DONE SOMETHING IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DAC IS BUILT OR REBUILT OR REHABBED OR WHATEVER, IS, DOES IT EXTEND PAST LOBBYING EFFORTS, OR ARE WE AS A CITY COMMITTING ANY OTHER RESOURCES TO HELPING THEM GET THIS DONE? IT'S ON THE INSTALLATION, AND WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, SPOKEN TO OUR, AS JEFF SAID, WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION.

UH, THE, THE ISSUE, I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN, IS THAT THE MILITARY CANNOT ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF FUNDING.

THEY CAN'T ADVOCATE, UH, ON BEHALF OF THESE TYPES OF ISSUES BECAUSE THEY GET IN THAT POLITICAL HOT POTATO.

BUT WE CAN, UH, AND SO, AND WE ARE, AND SO WE'VE ADVOCATED, I DON'T KNOW, JEFF, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE WITH OUR LOBBYISTS, LOBBYISTS, BUT I'M ALSO, UH, WITH THE TEXAS, I'M, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS MILITARY AND MILITARY, UH, MAYORS, UH, ORGANIZATION.

AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO ALSO, UH, APPROACH THE 14 CITIES, BECAUSE I THINK FORT HOOD ALSO LOST, UH, A PROJECT, UH, TO ALSO, UH, LOBBY ON BEHALF, UH, OF OUR, WHAT WE'VE LOST OR HAS BEEN DEFERRED.

ONE MORE POINT HERE, DEFERRED.

THIS REALLY BROKE THE HEARTS OF THE FOLKS THAT WORK AT BOLUS AND IS NOT VERY POPULAR WITH GENERAL LINDEMAN AND THOSE FOLKS.

UH, DEFERMENT MEANS THAT WE'LL PROBABLY NEVER GET IT, HUH? I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT, UH, JUAN ASKED ALL THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE PART OF THAT STATEWIDE COALITION TO BE COMMUNICATING THE WAY WE ARE TO THEIR MEMBERS AS WELL.

MM-HMM.

, UH, I SEE, UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY HERE, OF COURSE, WHO IS ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE MILITARY TRANSFORMATION TASK FORCE.

THAT'S THE FORUM FOR WHICH THE CITY COUNTY CHAMBERS, UH, PORT ALL OF THE MILITARY INTERESTED ENTITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY REGULARLY DIALOGUE, I IMAGINE THEY'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING.

I JUST WENT AND, AND ASKED SALLY FOR A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATE ON WHERE THINGS ARE IN CONGRESS.

EFFECTIVELY, ALL OF OUR DELEGATION MEMBERS KNOW AND ARE ACTIVELY COMMUNICATING ON IT.

WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS THE SENATE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IS TELLING THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LED HOUSE, THAT YOU ALL NEED TO FIND MONEY TO BACKFILL, UH, THE, THE 3.6 BILLION THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FOR THE BORDER WALL.

AND SO WHAT THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY MEAN, YOU SAW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEFENSE AND NON-DEFENSE SPENDING ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.

WHAT IT WOULD MEAN IS NON-DEFENSE DOMESTIC PROGRAMS, UH, LOSING MONEY AT THE EXPENSE OF THESE MILITARY CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT HAVE EFFECTIVELY BEEN DEFUNDED.

SO THE HOUSE IS PUSHING BACK ON THAT.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAD LANGUAGE IN THEIR APPROPRIATIONS BILL SAYING, WE WILL NOT SPEND MILITARY

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SO THAT LANGUAGE REMAINS, THEY WOULD'VE TO REMOVE THAT AND, AND COMPLETELY BACKTRACK.

AND, AND THAT'S SORT OF THE, UH, THE CLASH THAT IS WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT BEING REQUESTED, UH, FOR THE DAC? WHAT'S, WHAT'S DAC YOU MEAN THE, THE DINING HALL? THE DINING FACILITY.

OH, OKAY.

SORRY.

I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE DINING FACILITY? IT'S 18.5 MILLION.

YEAH.

18.5, 18.5 MILLION.

HOLY COW.

WOW.

RIGHT NOW, IT FEEDS 150 PEOPLE, UH, JOINT BASE.

SAN ANTONIO HAS THE LARGEST NUMBER OF STUDENTS COMING THROUGH HERE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

SO YOU'RE GOING FROM A DINING FACILITY THAT FEEDS 150 PEOPLE, AND YOU WANNA MAKE IT UP TO IT.

IT CAN FEED, UH, UP TO 4,000 PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME AT THE SAME TIME.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT, UH, EVERY AIR FORCE RECRUIT IN THE AIR FORCE COMES THROUGH HERE.

SO YOU HAVE GRADUATING CLASSES 50 OUT OF 52 WEEKS HERE.

AND THAT'S A LOT OF, UH, YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE GOING THROUGH, UH, THAT NEED TO EAT .

OKAY.

THANKS.

GENERAL.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? YES, COUNCILWOMAN HDA.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, JEFF, GOING BACK TO THE E F S P APPLICATION, I'M CURIOUS WHAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE, UH, HAVE SPENT, AND THEN WHAT'S, WELL, I'LL STOP THERE.

I'M SORRY, SALLY.

OKAY.

CLOSELY INVOLVED.

THANK YOU.

HI, SALLY.

HI, COUNCILWOMAN.

IT'S $540,000 THAT THE CITY SUBMITTED FOR DIRECT SERVICE REIMBURSEMENTS, BUT ONLY FOR THAT PERIOD, WHICH, UM, ENDED JUNE ONE.

SO THERE WERE EXPENSES THAT THE CITY INCURRED PAST JUNE ONE FOR THIS FIRST ROUND OF THIS FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT.

WE SUBMITTED A $540,000 REQUEST.

IS THAT THE TOTAL OF AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'VE SPENT IN THAT TIME PERIOD? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

SO WE'RE REQUESTING REIMBURSEMENT FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE FUNDS THAT WE'VE EXPENDED OF THE DIRECT SERVICES THAT ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THE GRANT APPLICATION GUIDELINES? YES.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT I BELIEVE THERE'S AN OVERTIME EXPENSE THAT WE'RE NOT PERMITTED TO APPLY FOR.

BUT, BUT GENERALLY, ALL OF THE STANDARD EXPENSES, I BELIEVE THE FOOD BANK, UH, EXPENDITURES ARE ROLLED INTO OUR SUBMISSION, AND THEN CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS, UH, APPLYING ON ITS OWN FOR THEIR, UH, REIMBURSEMENT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, THE TOTAL SUBMISSION BY THE COMMUNITY IS 851,826.

THAT, WHICH INCLUDES OUR 540,000, THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE CATHOLIC CHARITIES, CORRECT.

AS A COMMUNITY, YOU SAID, RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND TRAVIS.

TRAVIS PARK.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL.

JEFF, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY'RE NOT REIMBURSING, UH, OVER TIME? UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I HAD THAT CONVERSATION ACTUALLY AT YOUR BUDGET SESSION SATURDAY MORNING WITH EDWARD FROM D H S.

I THINK PROBABLY THE, THE BELIEF IS THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING LEVELS TO STAFF IT WITHIN OUR OWN, THEN THAT'S AN EXPENSE THAT WE HAVE TO INCUR.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS A LARGE PIECE OF IT.

GENERALLY, OUR CITY STAFF STAFFING OF THE MIGRANT RESOURCE CENTER HAS BEEN DONE BY EMPLOYEES ON, UH, REGULAR WORK SCHEDULES AND SO FORTH.

BUT, UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE RATIONALE BETWEEN WHY WE CAN'T.

OKAY.

AND SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT'S NOT BEING REIMBURSED, I COULD JUST ASK HUMAN SERVICES FOR YES, AND WE, WE CAN FOLLOW UP AND SHARE IT WITH THE WHOLE COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO, UH, COUNCILWOMAN VRAN, I THINK I JUST WANT TO KNOW, UM, UNDER THE FEDERAL APPROPRIATION SLIDE NUMBER FIVE, THE AWA, UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS NOTHING IN, UH, THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL, BUT THE HOUSE F Y 20 IS 582 MILLION.

SO WHAT, WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR THAT TO, TO MOVE THROUGH? WELL, UM, THE, THE BIG THING IS THE PROGRAMS HAVE TO BE REAUTHORIZED.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO STEPS HERE.

UH, ONE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE, WELL, LET'S FORGET THE COMMITTEE'S.

CONGRESS HAS TO FIRST, OKAY.