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GOOD AFTERNOON.

IT IS 2:00 PM IF THE COMMISSIONER'S READY AND THE STAFF IS READY, THEN

[Call to Order]

I'LL CALL TODAY'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.

WILL STAFF PLEASE DO THE ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER ROHR ALLEG GREENY.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER CARILLO? HERE.

COMMISSIONER RAMOS.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER KOSTICK.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER PECK.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

OH, EXCUSE NOT.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA.

PRESENT.

QUORUM IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

IF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SPEAK NOW OR WAIT TILL YOUR INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEM IS CALLED AND SPEAK.

AT THAT TIME, REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND EACH CITIZEN WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? MAY THERE BE NONE? UH, TODAY WE HAVE TWO AGENDAS.

[Consent Agenda]

THE FIRST AGENDA IS THE COMBINED HEARING.

THE FIRST AGENDA IS THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA.

CASES THAT ARE PLACED ON THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA ARE CASES WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT, UM, REQUIRE FURTHER DETAILED DISCUSSION.

AND FINALLY, NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.

ALL CASES WILL BE READ INTO THE RECORD FOR ONE UNIFIED MOTION.

IF SOMEONE HAS SIGNED 'EM TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, THEN THAT ITEM WILL BE MOVED TO THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA.

OUR SECOND AGENDA TODAY IS THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA.

CASES THAT ARE PLACED ON THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA WILL BE DISCUSSED SEPARATELY PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKING A MOTION ON THE ITEM, WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER EIGHT AND 14 PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL.

ITEM NUMBER 18 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

UH, COMMISSIONER RAMOS WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 21 FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND WE HAVE SOMEONE TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS NUMBER 15, 18, AND 19.

AND JUST TO HELP CLARIFY, ITEM NUMBER 18, THAT WAS, UH, POSTPONED OR ACTUALLY WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED TODAY.

THERE IS SOMEONE WHO SIGNED IN TO SPEAK, UH, ON THAT ITEM.

I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THEY WERE AWARE THAT THIS ITEM WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED.

IT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.

IF YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 18, DO YOU STILL WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? OH, SHE LEFT.

OKAY.

SHE LEFT.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE THE LIST.

IT SOUNDED LIKE SOMEBODY WAS STILL GONNA SIGN IT.

YEAH, IT'S NUMBER 15.

WE'RE GOOD.

SO THE, THE ITEMS THAT YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ON INDIVIDUAL, SAME.

OKAY.

SO IT'LL BE ITEMS 8, 14, 15, AND 19 AND 21.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

18 WAS PULLED FOR, WAS WITHDRAWN.

OKAY.

ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ITEMS STILL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ANYONE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? THERE BEING NONE.

THEN BEFORE WE, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA, I SHOULD, I'M GLAD WE'RE SUPPORTING.

UM, ITEM NUMBER 22, WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE CITY CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN.

I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR OUR CITY TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PECK, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER RAMOS.

STAFF, DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER RO EGRIN? YES.

COMMISSIONER CARILLO? YES.

COMMISSIONER RAMOS.

OH, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

STAFF DIDN'T READ THAT INTO THE RECORD.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS YING MAR.

I AM PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 8 14 15, 19 21, WHICH HAVE BEEN PUT FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

ITEM 18, WHICH HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

THE BA THE BALANCE OF TODAY'S

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AGENDA WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION UNDER A SINGLE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO WE NEED TO RESTART THE VOTING OR CAN STAFF CONTINUE WHERE WE ARE? OKAY.

THE STAFF CAN CONTINUE.

THE ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER RAMOS? YES.

COMMISSIONER ICK.

YES.

COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK.

AYE.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE LUNCH.

ALRIGHT.

NEXT WE'LL HEAR ITEMS NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER 14,

[Items 8 & 14]

WHICH HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL.

IT IS 2 0 6 AND COMMISSIONER PECK HAS LEFT THE ROOM.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEMS NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER 14.

THEY'RE BOTH PLATTS AND THEY'VE BEEN PULLED FOR PURPOSE OF RECUSAL.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER RAMOS.

SECOND.

A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROHE.

STAFF, CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER ROAR EGRIN? YES.

COMMISSIONER CARILLO? YES.

COMMISSIONER RAMOS? YES.

COMMISSIONER ICK.

YES.

COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ? YES.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

YOU NOTIFY.

UH, COMMISSIONER PETS.

WELCOME CHAIR.

IF WE COULD PUT NUMBER 21 NEXT.

OKAY.

STAFF HAS TO, UH, LEAVE BY A CERTAIN TIME.

OKAY.

IT IS 2 0 7 AND COMMISSIONER PECK HAS RETURNED.

WE'LL NOW HEAR

[21. 19-6364 Resolution recommending the declaration as surplus and authorizing the sale of 12.38 acres of the decommissioned city-owned Southeast Service Center in NCB 10934 BLK LOT 45 located at 7402 S. New Braunfels Ave in Council District 3. Staff recommends approval. [Deborah Bell, Neighborhood and Housing Services, Neighborhood Improvement Bond, Senior Real Estate Specialist, (210) 207-5460, deborah.bell@sanantonio.gov]]

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21.

GOOD AFTERNOON PLANNING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS JAMIE LOLLY DAMRON.

I AM THE HOUSING BOND ADMINISTRATOR FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND OUR ITEM TODAY IS A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING, UH, TO DECLARE A SURPLUS, A 12.3 ACRE PARCEL OF LAND KNOWN AS THE DECOMMISSIONED SOUTHEAST SERVICE CENTER.

LOCATED AT 74 0 2 SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS IN SAN ANTONIO IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE.

UH, THE SOUTHEAST SERVICE CENTER IS A PARCEL OF LAND AT THE CORNER OF SOUTHEAST MILITARY AND SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS, UH, RIGHT ACROSS FROM BROOKS CITY BASE.

IT IS THE FORMER CITY OWNED SOUTHEAST SERVICE CENTER AND IT HOUSED NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, I'M SORRY, TRANSPORTATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

IT HOUSED, UH, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT AND IT ALSO HOUSED, UH, BUILDING EQUIPMENT SERVICES.

UM, ALL OF THESE THREE, UM, DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR STAFF HAVE BEEN RELOCATED FROM THE FACILITY, AND THE FACILITY HAS BEEN, UM, REMEDIATED FROM ENVIRONMENTAL RE CONCERNS.

UM, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, THIS 12, UH, 0.3 ACRE PARCEL IS NOW BEING, UH, UNDER SITE CONTROL BY THE CITY'S NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BOND PROGRAM.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BOND PROGRAM IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND PROGRAM APPROVED BY VOTERS IN MAY OF 2017.

AND WHAT WE DO WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BOND PROGRAM IS WE SEEK PROPERTY, UH, TO COMPETITIVELY R F P TO DEVELOPERS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY IS REPLANT IT INTO TWO SEPARATE PARCELS, A 9.3 ACRE TRACT AND A THREE ACRE TRACT.

THE THREE ACRE TRACT WILL BE SOLD AT A LATER DATE UPON COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE REMAINING 9.3 ACRES IS WHAT WE'LL BE USING FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

THAT DEVELOPMENT AND THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS STILL, UH, UP FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AT A LATER DATE.

WE'RE STRIVING FOR THE DATE OF OCTOBER THE THIRD, THOUGH, WE DID ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, UM, TO FIND A DEVELOPER.

UH, THIS WAS DONE IN APRIL OF, UH, APRIL OF THIS YEAR.

SUBMITTALS WERE DUE BACK TO US IN JUNE.

UM, WE DID DO A COMPETITIVE REVIEW OF THOSE PROPOSALS TO SELECT THE DEVELOPER.

UH, WITH THIS PROPERTY, WE ARE GONNA GET 292 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ON THE DEVELOPMENT USING THE IDEA OF INCOME AVERAGING.

UH, SO 292 UNITS ON THE PROPERTY WITH, UM, 34 OF THOSE AT 30% A M I NINE AT 40% A M I NINE AT 50% A M I 141 AT 60% A M I AND THE BALANCE, UM, ABOVE THE 60%, BETWEEN 60 AND 80% A M I.

UM, SO IF THIS, THIS REQUEST IS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY AND SELL THE 9.3

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ACRES TO THIS DEVELOPER FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BOND PROGRAM.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSION QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES.

COMMISSIONER RAMOS.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I WAS JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I GUESS JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BY FAR, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD, I, I BELIEVE WHAT THE INTENT WAS OF THE BOND PROGRAM IN 2017.

UM, BUT I JUST WANNA GET SOME FIGURES.

IF YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF THE CITY PAY FOR THE REMEDIATION? THE CITY'S PAID ABOUT $400,000 ALL IN FOR THE REMEDIATION OF THE SITE.

OKAY.

AND NOW THE CITY, THE AGENCY I WAS LOOKING AT, THE BACKGROUND CONTRACT, THE SELL THE BUYER WILL PAY THE CITY $485,000.

THE CITY.

YES.

WE'RE SELLING THE PROPERTY FOR $485,000.

WILL THAT GO BACK INTO THE HOUSING BOND MONIES OR WHERE, WHERE DO THOSE MONIES GO TO? THE $485,000 WILL BE GO BACK INTO A DEDICATED AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND TO FUND FUTURE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SIMILAR TO HOW WE'RE DOING THE HOUSING BOND PROGRAM.

OKAY, GREAT.

GOOD.

AND THEN ALSO, JUST FULL DISCLAIMER, THE CITY IS ALSO GONNA PROVIDE MONEY FOR A POTENTIAL GAP THAT THE FINANCIER OR WHOEVER GETS AWARDED THIS WILL, WILL HELP FILL THEIR, THEIR NEEDS, THEIR FINANCE GAP.

YES, MA'AM.

AND SO WITH, UH, OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND PROGRAM, WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT THE PROJECT, THE, THE BIDDERS, THE DEVELOPERS SUBMIT THEIR PERFORMA, THEY ARE REVIEWED BY A FORMAL UNDERWRITER WHO IS AN INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT THAT WORKS FOR US, UH, NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED.

UH, THEY LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS TRULY A GAP.

AND UPON REVIEW THAT REVIEW, WE AUTHORIZE INNER CONTRACT THROUGH CITY COUNCIL WHO CITY COUNCIL HAS ULTIMATE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE IT.

UM, WE WILL, UH, ALLOW UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT IN ELIGIBLE REIMBURSABLE COST FOR THIS PROJECT TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING A $4.2 MILLION REIMBURSABLE COST TO MAKE THIS HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT AFFORDABLE.

AND JUST ONE MORE POINT, ANOTHER GOOD POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP IN THE WORK SESSION WAS THAT CURRENTLY THIS, THE WHOLE 12 ACRE SITE IS CURRENTLY NOT ON THE PROPERTY TAX ROLLS 'CAUSE IT'S CITY SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY.

CORRECT.

AND SO A PORTION OF IT WILL BECOME ON THE PROPERTY TAX ROLLS, HOPEFULLY.

SO THE THREE ACRE PARCEL, WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO GO BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS WHEN, UH, PRIVATE DEVELOPER BUYS THAT LAND AND DEVELOPS IT INTO WHATEVER COMMERCIAL USE THEY DECIDE.

THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION, THE UPDATE.

LIKE I SAID, I THINK THIS IS A, A GREAT PROJECT.

SOMETHING THAT WAS THE GOAL OF THAT HOUSING BOND PROGRAM.

UM, I GUESS THAT'S IT.

I JUST MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON THE RESOLUTION.

OH, I'M SORRY.

ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION.

.

UM, ON THE ESSAY TOMORROW PLAN, IS IT A READY, ZONED OR PLANNED FOR MIXED USE OR, UH, FOR MULTIFAMILY? SO IT IS NOT CURRENTLY ZONED CORRECTLY FOR THE USE.

WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AFTER COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO REZONE IT.

IT'S ZONED R FOUR FOR WHATEVER REASON.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO REZONE IT TO PROBABLY MF 33.

OKAY.

AND I GUESS THAT'S JUST ANOTHER COMMENT BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS PLAN AMENDMENTS AND HOW WE'RE MAKING AMENDMENTS ON THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN.

I MEAN, SOME OF THESE PLANS WERE JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED.

I MEAN, I KNOW THE BROOKS REGIONAL PLAN WAS JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED AND THIS ENCOMPASSES THAT AREA.

AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THEY WEREN'T PROPERLY.

SO IT IS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THEIR PLAN USE, UM, FOR THIS AREA, BUT IT, I DON'T BELIEVE THE ZONING HAS BEEN CHANGED FOR THE PROPERTY AS OF YET.

SO AT THIS, IT'S IN ALIGNMENT WITH THOSE PLANNING PLANS.

OKAY.

BUT IT HASN'T BEEN REZONED OKAY.

AS OF YET.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO YES, I DO MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER RAMOS.

DO HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

FROM COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ AND STAFF DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER ROHR ALLEG GREENY.

OOPS.

COMMISSIONER CARILLO? YES.

COMMISSIONER RAMOS? YES.

COMMISSIONER ICK.

YES.

COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA, WE WILL HEAR ITEM NUMBER 15.

[15. 19-6428 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2019-11600044 (Council District 8): A request by Kaufman and Killen, representative, for approval of a Resolution to amend the North Sector Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Rural Estate Tier” to “Suburban Tier” on 18.66 acres out of NCB 18333, located at 7580 Luskey Boulevard. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2019-10700164) (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

MICHAEL PEPE, PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 15.

UM, THIS IS LOCATED AT 7 5 8 0 LUKI BOULEVARD IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM MUR STATE TIER TO SUBURBAN TIER.

UM, 22 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

NONE WERE RETURNED, RETURNED IN FAVOR.

TWO WERE RETURNED IN OPPOSITION.

FRIENDS OF SAN ANTONIO NATURAL AREAS WAS NOTIFIED BUT HAS NOT RESPONDED.

STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS

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ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR.

UM, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR REQUESTED PLAN AMENDMENT.

WE'VE GOT A, UH, BRIEF POWERPOINT.

UH, MY NAME'S ROB KILLEN, 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

I'M ALSO GONNA HAVE, UH, DAVID PARKERSON, WHO'S THE DEVELOPER AND AN ENGINEER COME UP AND SPEAK, UH, FOR JUST A, A MOMENT AS WELL.

BUT I'LL, I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME OTHER FOLKS WHO'VE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

UH, SO I'D BE HAPPY AFTER THEY'RE FINISHED MAKING THEIR COMMENTS TO COME BACK AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.

UH, SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UH, WEST OF I 10 NORTH OF CAMP FALLS ROAD AND FRONTS ON BABCOCK ROAD.

UH, A LITTLE CLOSE END.

THERE'S BABCOCK ROAD.

IT'S A SMALL ROAD CALLED LUKI, AND HERE IT IS.

YOU CAN SEE THE, THE PROPERTY, IT'S 43 ACRES.

AND SO IT'S CURRENTLY RURAL ESTATE TIER AND CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX.

SO WITH THE CURRENT R SIX ZONING, THE DENSITY FOR R SIX WILL ALLOW 301 HOUSES TO BE BUILT OVER 43 ACRES.

NOW, QUITE FRANKLY, YOU COULDN'T REALLY PUT 300 HOUSES THERE.

THERE'S STEEP TOPOGRAPHY, THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THE MOST, THE LARGEST NUMBER OF HOUSES YOU COULD GET, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 200.

SO WE COULD DEVELOP ABOUT 200 ACRES ON 43, 200 HOUSES ON 43 ACRES.

UH, BASED ON THE ZONING AND BASED ON THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP IT, THIS IS HOW IT WOULD LAY OUT IF IT WAS DEVELOPED FOR SINGLE FAMILY.

THIS IS AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CALLED HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE.

I THINK SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP SPEAKER, UH, FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS THE 43 ACRES, UH, THAT OUR CLIENT IS DEVELOPING.

THIS IS HOW IT WOULD LAY OUT WITH, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW IS RURAL STATE TIER.

WE'VE GOT SUBURBAN TIER AROUND.

SO SUBURBAN TIER IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PATTERN DEVELOPMENT OUT IN THAT AREA.

UH, SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S 43 ACRES.

OUR CLIENT ONLY WANTS TO DEVELOP 18 ACRES TO DO 300 APARTMENTS.

THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE LEFT UNDEVELOPED AND PUT IN A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

SO I THINK MOST OF YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

WHAT IT IS, IS IT'LL BE HELD BY A THIRD PARTY.

WE'RE HOPING IT'D BE CROWN RIDGE AS THE PARTY TO THE, UH, CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WHICH MEANS THIS WOULD STAY, UH, IRREVOCABLY UNDEVELOPABLE.

AND SO THIS IS HOW IT LAYS OUT.

YOU CAN SEE THIS WHITE SPACE UP HERE THAT WOULD BE IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

AND THE SPACE DOWN HERE WOULD BE IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

THESE, THIS IS HOW THE APARTMENTS WOULD LAY OUT.

AND DAVID'S GONNA COME IN.

DAVID PARKINSON'S GONNA COME UP IN AND TALK ABOUT THE VARIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE SITE PLAN, HOW THAT HAS BEEN ADJUSTED BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

HERE'S THE ACCESS POINT OUT HERE.

THIS IS BABCOCK ROAD DOWN HERE.

SO LIKE I SAID, THIS WOULD BE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AREA.

THIS WOULD BE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AREA HERE, BUT YOU'D ALSO HAVE GREEN SPACE MIXED IN, UH, AMONG THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

UH, THIS, UH, AERIAL PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT BETTER VIEW.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY HEAVILY COVERED WITH TREES.

THE AREA THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED IS ALREADY CLEARED, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF CLEARING AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

MOST OF THE AREA THAT'S NATURAL WILL STAY NATURAL.

UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, I'M SURE THIS PLANNING COMMISSION SEES ALL THE TIME WITH PROJECTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, TRAFFIC COUNT.

THAT'S ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK WE'VE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, I THINK AS MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW, MULTI-FAMILY ON A UNIT BY UNIT BASIS GENERATES SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, UH, TRAFFIC.

SO I WANNA DEMONSTRATE THAT IF THIS WERE DEVELOPED WITH THE 200 HOUSES THAT YOU COULD DO, WE WOULD GENERATE MORE TRIPS THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THE 300 APARTMENT UNITS.

AND OF COURSE, THIS IS BASED ON THE STANDARD TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, UH, MANUAL.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ACTUALLY HAS A REDUCED TRAFFIC IMPACT OVER WHAT COULD BE DONE AS CURRENTLY ENTITLED.

UH, IN ADDITION TO THE OPEN SPACE, UH, AS PART OF THE DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD PUT IN NEW LANDSCAPING.

AND THIS WOULD BE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULDN'T BE TRUE PROBABLY WITH SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH SHOULD BE VESTED OR GRANDFATHERED FROM THE CITY'S TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S ALL PART OF THE CROWN RIDGE OF TEXAS.

PRELIMINARY OVERALL AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH PREDATES OUR TREE ORDINANCE.

SO WHAT WE'LL BE DOING AS PART OF THE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IS WAIVING OUR VESTED RIGHTS.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT, UH, ZONING COMMISSION LAST WEEK.

AGAIN, CONSERVATION AREA, UH, CONSERVATION AREA, ALL IN AN EASEMENT HELD BY A THIRD PARTY.

SO IT'S IRREVOCABLE.

THIS IS THE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT.

UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN, AND WE THINK THAT OUR REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE VISION STATEMENT IN THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN.

SO IT TALKS ABOUT PRESERVING NATURAL RESOURCES, WHICH WE'RE DOING THROUGH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT,

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ENHANCING SCENIC RESOURCES, WHICH IS, AGAIN, IS THAT NATURAL AREA AND ENHANCING DIVERSE QUALITY HOUSING.

THIS WILL ADD TO THE DIVERSITY OF, OF HOUSING IN THAT AREA.

UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KNOW THERE'S STILL SOME FOLKS THAT ARE, UH, STILL OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT, BUT, UH, INITIAL MEETING BACK IN JUNE, I MEAN A FULL NEIGHBORHOOD IN JULY, AND THEN A ANOTHER MEETING WITH FULL NEIGHBORHOOD BACK IN AUGUST.

SO WE'VE HAD A GOOD LINE OF DIALOGUE.

UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF, UH, FINALIZING DRAFTING OF DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, WHICH WERE MEMORIALIZED ALL OF OUR COMMITMENTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, WENT TO ZONING LAST WEEK.

STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, REZONING, ZONING, COMMISSION, UNANIMOUS, UH, RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL.

AND STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS PLAN.

AMENDMENT REQUEST HAS GONE THROUGH, OBVIOUSLY SEVERAL LAYERS OF REVIEW.

I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW, UH, BEFORE WE OPEN UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION QUESTIONS, IS INVITE DAVID TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE, UH, ITERATIONS OF THE SITE PLAN AND SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS SPECIFIC TO THE PROJECT.

AND WE'LL KEEP A BRIEF AND THEN ANSWER QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.

DAVID, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME COMMISSIONERS THIS AFTERNOON.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

UH, SO WE DID MEET WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORS PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION ACTUALLY BEING SUBMITTED WITH THE INTENT OF GETTING SOME IDEAS FOR, UH, THE PROJECT.

UM, WE HAD A COUPLE OF GOOD SUGGESTIONS, WHICH WE CAN LOOK AT.

THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN THAT WAS LAID OUT.

UM, AFTER THAT FIRST MEETING, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE TO, UH, BUFFER BETWEEN THE EXISTING HOMES AND THE PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY.

THE ENTIRE TRACK TO THE MULTI-FAMILY STARTS AT A HIGH POINT HERE, UH, EQUIVALENT WITH THESE WHAT ARE PROPOSED LOTS HERE TO SORT OF ACT AS A TERMINUS TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AS THESE AREAS ARE UNDEVELOPED AND, AND A NUISANCE CURRENTLY.

UM, WE WOULD TURN THESE INTO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES COMMENSURATE WITH THE WAY THAT THE DESIGN AND BUILD WAS FOR THE EXISTING HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY WOULD ACT AS, UH, THEY GO UPHILL UP, UH, HAY HILL ROAD.

SO THE VIEW, UH, BETWEEN THE CUL-DE-SAC AND THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS, UH, WOULD BE PRIMARILY THESE FOUR HOUSES.

UH, AND THEN AGAIN, OVER HERE, WE WOULD BOOK IN THE EXISTING HOMES WITH TWO OTHER HOMES ACROSS RIO RIDGE AS TO, AGAIN, TO CLEAN UP THIS, THIS EXISTING, UH, PHASE LINE, IF YOU WILL.

UH, THIS, UH, EXISTING TURNOUT ROADWAY, WHICH IS INTENDED FOR SINGLE FAMILY, WOULD BE TURNED INTO A NOX BOX ONLY EMERGENCY SERVICES ENTRANCE WITH GATE.

UH, WE WOULD LANDSCAPE THIS AS WELL AS AREAS BEHIND.

UM, AND THEN, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THESE ARE THE TWO, UH, HIGHER BUILDINGS AT PAR WITH THE PROPOSED HOMES.

FROM THERE, IT GOES DOWNHILL, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE.

AND SO DOWN AND AWAY FROM THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, UH, AFTER, UH, AFTER THIS MEETING, WE HAD ANOTHER WITH FURTHER SUGGESTIONS, UH, BY WHICH WE ACTUALLY MOVED THE TWO, UH, HIGHER BUILDINGS BACK AND SH AND SHRUNK THEM IN SIZE.

AND THEN, UH, DELETED AND SHIFTED ONE OVER ON THE, THE, UH, AREA THAT'S ACROSS THIS GREEN SPACE HERE, WHICH IS A, A EXISTING CREEK IN LOW POINT FROM THESE EXISTING HOMES HERE.

SO WE SHIFTED THIS TO BE 300 FEET AWAY.

THERE'S 270 FEET FROM THE EXISTING HOME, THE CLOSEST EXISTING HOME UP ON TOP, WHICH IS THAT ONE.

AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE HERE, WHICH ARE MORE THAN 300 FROM THESE PROPOSED BUILDINGS.

SO THAT WAS THE INTENTION THROUGH THE, THE MEETINGS AND, UH, DISCUSSION.

THIS IS CURRENTLY THE SITE PLAN WHERE WE STAND NOW.

UH, IT WILL OF COURSE SHIFT AROUND A LITTLE BIT WITH BUILDINGS AND DRIVES, UH, AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE ENGINEERING.

UM, THE, UH, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, LET BACK UP FOR JUST A MOMENT.

THE, UH, ACCESS FOR ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY WOULD BE THROUGH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD TO CONSTRUCT WHATEVER IS BUILT HERE TO BUILD IT AND THEN TO SERVICE IT AS SINGLE FAMILY.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO PROPOSE THIS USE, RELOCATE THE, THE VEHICLE TRIPS AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE COMING THROUGH THE EXISTING ROADS TO A, UH, AN ACCESS OFF OF BABCOCK DEDICATED STRICTLY FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND, UH, THIS WOULD HAVE RIGHT TURN AND LEFT TURN LANES AND ADDED SAFETY ALONG BABCOCK WITH ADEQUATE SIGHT LINES.

SO THAT IS THE PROJECT WE'RE PROPOSING.

UM, I THINK WE LOOKED AT MOST EVERYTHING AND, UH, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THE UH, GREEN SPACE WE THINK IS A GREAT ADDITION TO THIS, WHICH WOULD NOT BE PRESENT OTHERWISE.

AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE SEVERAL CITIZENS SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON I NUMBER 15.

UH, LET'S GET STARTED WITH JENNY SWILLEY.

JENNY SWILLEY.

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I LIVE IN CROWN RIDGE AT 19 83, 9 WITTENBERG DRIVE.

UH, I AM AGAINST APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN THIS AREA.

WE ALREADY HAVE ONE APARTMENT BUILDING, UH, ADJOINING THAT AREA ACTUALLY.

UH, AND THEN ONE ACROSS THE STREET.

THEY MAY BE THE SAME GROUP THAT OWNS THEM, BUT THEY'RE SEPARATED BY THE STREET.

AND THEN ACROSS BABCOCK, THERE'S ANOTHER APARTMENT BUILDING.

UM, IF YOU GO NORTH ON BABCOCK, THERE'S STILL ANOTHER VERY LARGE APARTMENT BUILDING.

NOW, THE MASTER PLAN FOR CROWN RIDGE WAS FOR ALL OF THIS TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

AND, UH, MOST PEOPLE I THINK IN CROWN RIDGE PURCHASE THEIR HOMES WITH THAT IN MIND.

SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF A BETRAYAL OF OUR TRUST, ALTHOUGH I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME, BUT SEVERAL PEOPLE FEEL THAT IT IS A BETRAYAL OF THEIR TRUST.

I'VE BEEN TO THE LAST MEETING HERE, THE, THE REZONING MEETING.

AND I WAS AT THE LARGE MEETING AT I GO LIBRARY.

THERE WAS NOT ONE PERSON THERE WHO WANTED THESE APARTMENTS.

NOT ONE EXCEPT THE DEVELOPER, OF COURSE.

UM, I'M ALSO VERY CONCERNED, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOME CREEKS HERE AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DRAINAGE.

WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE WHEN CREST BELLA WAS, UH, WAS DEVELOPED, UH, WHAT LOOKED LIKE VERY GOOD DRAINAGE AND SHOULD HAVE WORKED, DIDN'T WORK, UH, DESTROYED A HILLSIDE.

UH, TWO SECTIONS OF SIDEWALK WERE ERODED AWAY.

THE CITY PAID TO REPAVE ONE AND THE DEVELOPER PAID TO REPAVE ANOTHER.

WHEN WE TALKED TO THE CITY ABOUT THIS DRAINAGE PROBLEM THAT DIDN'T WORK, THEY SAID, WELL, IT HAD ALREADY BEEN PLANNED AND THERE WAS NOTHING THAT THEY COULD DO.

SO I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GONNA GET GOING ON THIS PROJECT, AND THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH EROSION, SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH DUST.

AND I HEAR WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, BUT I KNOW ONCE IT GETS GOING, EVERYBODY THROWS UP THEIR HANDS AND SAYS, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

ENVIRONMENTAL INCLUDES NOT ONLY GREEN SPACE WITH TREES, BUT IT INCLUDES YOUR CREEKS, YOUR AIR, YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENT IS A VERY COMPLEX THING.

AND ONCE YOU GET A LOT OF EROSION AND ONCE YOU GET A LOT OF PARTICULAR MATTER IN THE AIR, IT'S UNPLEASANT FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

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THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE OSCAR CASTILLO NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND WE'VE GOT THREE MINUTES.

HELLO, MY NAME IS OSCAR CASTILLO.

I LIVE AT 1-890-SIX-RIAL RIDGE, WHICH IS, UH, PRETTY MUCH WITHIN 200 FEET OF THIS, UH, UH, PROPOSAL.

AND, UH, I'VE ALREADY WRITTEN TO THE COUNCILMAN, UH, MY COUNCILMAN TO THE OFFICE AND, UH, AND PROTEST OF THIS, UH, CHANGE.

UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF RENTERS.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY, AND WE GOT A LOT OF DIVERSITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY.

WE ARE DEALING WITH, UH, A LOT OF SU SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY.

WE'RE DEALING WITH RENTERS TAKING THEIR DOGS, UH, UP IN, UH, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, UH, WE GOT ENOUGH OF THOSE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

UM, YOU KNOW, U USING OUR LAWNS AS A, AS THEIR PUBLIC BATHROOM WITH THEIR DOGS.

SO ANOTHER THING TOO IS INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICES.

I'VE HAD TO CALL THE SS A P D SEVERAL TIMES AND IT'S TAKEN THEM UP TO 30 MINUTES, TO 30 TO 45 MINUTES TO, UH, GO IN THAT AREA.

SO, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, IN PARTICULAR IS, IS NOT PREPARED.

WE ALREADY HAVE TRAFFIC GOING, UH, GOING BACK, GETTING BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO 1604 PEOPLE COMING HOME ON BABCOCK.

THERE'S A, IT'S A TWO LANE, IT'S A TWO-LANE ROAD ON BABCOCK.

AND SO JUST TO GET TO MY HOUSE, IF I GO TO BILL MILLER'S RIGHT THERE ON, UH, 1604 AND, AND, UH, BABCOCK, IT TAKES ME ABOUT 30 MINUTES TO GET BACK HOME.

IT'S ABOUT A, ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF, TWO, TWO MILE DRIVE.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, THE STREETS AREN'T PREPARED FOR IT.

THE ELEVATION IS ANOTHER FACTOR AS WELL.

UH, WE'RE AT THE VERY TOP AND IT SLOPES DOWN AS YOU GO TO BABCOCK AND LUKI.

AND THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET.

SO, ANOTHER, UH, CONCERN AS WELL IS THESE APARTMENT

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BUILDINGS LOOKING OVER US AND JUST, IT LOOK HIDEOUS.

IT'S, THE VIEW HAS ALREADY DONE IT.

DURING THE PLAN, IT WAS ALREADY SET UP.

THEY, THEY MESSED IT UP.

THE VIEW HAS A VIEW OF MY NAT AT THEIR HOUSE.

SO JUST PREPARATION.

THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ARROWS ALREADY AND, UH, PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS, THERE'S STUFF GOING ON RIGHT NOW AT, UH, THE MANSIONS AT LATA WITH, UH, THEIR HABITAT STUDY.

AND THERE'S JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING WRONG WITH THE BUILDERS PERIOD IN THE CROWN RIDGE AREA ALONE.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S COME OUT ON THE NEWS.

THERE'S BEEN, UH, MISTAKES.

AND, UH, ANOTHER THING IS THE ELEVATION, WHICH I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT AS WELL.

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OKAY.

SO, UM, YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY AGAINST THIS.

THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AGAINST, IS DEFINITELY AGAINST THIS.

UH, WE'RE UNIFYING TOGETHER AND, AND WE'RE FIGHTING IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

AND, UH, WE GOT ELECTIONS COMING UP AND WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT PERSON SIGNED TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 15 IS GILBERT GONZALEZ.

HELLO, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU GOT THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS GILBERT GONZALEZ.

I LIVE AT 7 7 0 2 HAYES HILL AS A RETIRED VETERAN.

UH, I HAVE FACED DEATH SO MANY TIMES.

I'VE STARTED DEATH FINDING A FACE WHEN HE WALKED UP TO ME RIDING A PALE WHITE HORSE.

AND I SAID, NO, NOT TODAY.

SO AS UH, AND FOR OUR SERVICES, IT IS VERY, THERE'S A LOT OF VETERANS AND ACTIVE DUTY PERSONNEL IN HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE AND IN CROWN RIDGE.

AND EVERY TIME WE'RE TOLD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR YOUR GALLANT TREE, YOUR BRAVERY AND SACRIFICES YOU'VE DONE FOR YOUR COUNTRY, WE ALL ASK IF YOU'RE TRULY THANKFUL FOR OUR SERVICE NOT TO SLAP US IN THE FACE.

WE'RE BRINGING IN APARTMENTS WHERE IT'S GONNA LOWER OUR VALUE ON OUR APPRAISED VALUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON OUR HOMES.

UM, CONTRARY TO WHAT WE WERE WAS DID LAST MEETING AT THE ZONING COMMISSION, THERE WILL BE SECTION EIGHT HOUSING.

THAT'S, UH, IT'S A GUARANTEE YOU, YOU CAN'T, IT CANNOT BE DENIED.

IT'S A FEDERAL, A FEDERAL PRIVILEGE OR FEDERAL PRIVILEGE, OR IT IS OFFERED FEDERAL AND YOU CAN'T DENY IT.

SO THAT'S GONNA LOWER DOWN OUR VALUE OF OUR HOMES.

SO I ASK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, IF YOU REALLY, REALLY WANT TO THANK US FOR OUR SERVICE, VOTE NO AGAINST IT.

THANK YOU.

AND LAST PERSON WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 15 IS ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ.

HELLO, MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ.

I LIVE AT 1 8 8 2 3 RIO RIDGE, UH, HERE IN SANJA.

AND, UH, UH, I BELIEVE THAT I UNDERSTAND PROGRESS, AND I BELIEVE THAT I UNDERSTAND CHANGES OF HEART, CHANGES OF MINE.

AND, UH, PROGRESS AND CHANGES ARE ALL PART OF LIFE.

I MEAN, WE TOTALLY, I THINK US ALL AS HUMAN BEINGS UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I WANT YOU TO ALSO UNDERSTAND MY SITUATION AS WELL.

UH, SIX YEARS AGO, MY WIFE AND I DECIDED TO BUY, UH, A BEAUTIFUL HOME, BUILD A BEAUTIFUL HOME, AND BE RIGHT THERE AT THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE OVERLOOKING THIS VERY, VERY BEAUTIFUL SCENIC, UH, AREA.

AND ABOVE US, ABOVE US, NOT BELOW US, ABOVE US, THERE WERE SOME BEAUTIFUL, UH, BLUFFS TO MY RIGHT, UH, STRAIGHT BEHIND ME.

AND TO MY RIGHT.

AND TO MY LEFT WAS ALSO A, A LITTLE CANYON LIKE AREA.

IT'S ALL GREEN, VERY, VERY GREEN.

AND WE WERE TOLD THAT'S GONNA BE A GREEN BELT.

UH, NOTHING'S GONNA BE BUILT THERE.

AND UP ABOVE ON THE BLUFFS, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME REALLY NICE, VERY NICE HIGH-END HOMES THAT ARE GONNA BE BUILT THERE.

AND SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO.

WE BUILT A BEAUTIFUL HOME, BEAUTIFUL POOL.

AND THEN TO OUR SURPRISE, UH, THESE APARTMENTS WERE BUILT TO OUR, UH, LEFT, UH, LEFT AND IMMEDIATE LEFT.

AND, UH, AND WE HAD ABOUT A SIX MONTHS TO NINE MONTHS WORTH OF LOTS AND LOTS OF DUST POLLUTION.

WE COULDN'T SWIM.

THERE WAS SO MUCH DUST EVERYWHERE.

IT WAS ALL OVER OUR BACKYARD.

UH, AND MIND YOU, WE DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.

UH, WE WERE TOLD

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THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE A GREEN BELT.

AND SO THAT WAS, UH, STARTED TO BE BUILT.

AND THEN NOW, FAST FORWARD A YEAR LATER, AND WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF NOISE POLLUTION BECAUSE OF THOSE APARTMENTS, LIGHT POLLUTION.

UM, AND IT'S NOT THE SAME SITUATION.

SO NOW WE'RE BEING TOLD, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE APARTMENTS UP ABOVE US, ABOVE US BECAUSE THE, THE, THE LITTLE CLIFFS THAT ARE THERE, THEY'RE ABOVE MY BACKYARD.

AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A BALLOON TEST AS FAR AS WE KNOW, UH, THAT'S BEEN DONE.

ALTHOUGH I HEAR WORD FROM, FROM FACEBOOK FROM THROUGH MY WIFE THAT THERE WAS A BALLOON TEST ON FRIDAY AT 1:00 PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD THE RESULTS OF THAT.

AND SO THERE'S LOTS OF ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON WITH, UH, 30 SECONDS WITH THIS SITUATION.

UM, WHY, WHY HAS THERE NOT BEEN PUBLIC, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT THE BALLOON TEST? YOU KNOW, I WAS A NEONATOLOGIST FOR 35 YEARS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I KNOW ABOUT BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR CHILDREN, AND I FEEL THAT YOU ARE OUR ADVOCATES AS WELL.

FOR THE LITTLE GUY, THIS WHOLE SITUATION OF COMING TO YOU AND TALKING TO YOU IS INCREDIBLY OVERWHELMING AND VERY DAUNTING TO US INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS.

AND I, AND I REALLY BEG YOU THREE MINUTES TO BE OUR ADVOCATE FOR THIS KIND OF SITUATION.

WE ARE DEFINITELY, UH, AGAINST THIS PROJECT GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, SO WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 15.

NOW WE HAVE A OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AND GIVE A REBUTTAL.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR.

COMMISSIONERS.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS ROB KILLEN, 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET.

APPRECIATE ALL THE FOLKS WHO CAME OUT TO SPEAK AND HEARD THERE CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC AGAIN, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTS A REDUCED TRAFFIC IMPACT OVER SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

UH, HEARD THE QUESTION.

THE CONCERN ABOUT THE HEIGHT, UH, AS CURRENTLY ZONED THE R SIX ZONING ALLOWS FOR A, UH, HOUSE TO BE BUILT 35 FEET HEIGHT.

SO MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN R SIX, CURRENT ZONING IS 35 FEET.

AND THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS, THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE BUILT THERE.

SO YOU WOULD BE LOOKING UP AT A HOUSE OR YOU WOULD BE LOOKING UP AT AN APARTMENT.

THERE WAS NOT A BALLOON TEST LAST FRIDAY, THERE WAS A DRONE TEST, BUT SAME IDEA, RIGHT? PUT THE DRONE UP THERE AND MEASURE THE ALTITUDE.

IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER WITH A DRONE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE ACTUAL EXACT HEIGHT.

AND THAT WAS, UH, CONDUCTED WITH SOME FOLKS ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THE RESULTS TO THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MOVING FORWARD BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL.

UH, CONCERN ABOUT CRIME, UH, THERE ARE NO EVIDENCE, NO STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT MULTIFAMILY USE RINGS INCREASED CRIME.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE KIND OF, UH, COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS THAT PEOPLE LIVE IN.

APARTMENTS TEND TO BE MORE LIKELY TO ENGAGE IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES.

THIS IS MARKET RATE APARTMENTS.

UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE EXPENSIVE APARTMENTS.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY'RE GONNA BE A BUNCH OF CRIMINALS MOVING IN.

AND THEN FINALLY, A COMMENT ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT ZONING COMMISSION.

IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS WHO SAID IT'S NOT GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR, UH, PROPERTY VALUES.

IT WAS A GREAT STUDY FROM 2007, UH, FROM HARVARD UNIVERSITY THAT LOOKED AT MULTIFAMILY AND LOOKED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND COMPILED SEVERAL OTHER STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON A LOCAL LEVEL THAT TALKED ABOUT IMPACT OF PROPERTY VALUES FROM MULTIFAMILY.

IT SHOWED THAT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE THAT DECREASED PROPERTY VALUES AND IN SOME CASES, MULTIFAMILY BY STABILIZING THE MARKET AROUND THERE AND TAKING UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY AND DEVELOPING IT ACTUALLY INCREASED PROPERTY VALUE.

SO AGAIN, APPRECIATE, UH, THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, UH, BUT UH, WE THINK THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE.

AND FOR PURPOSES OF THE THE SECTOR PLAN AMENDMENT, WE THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN.

WE THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.

AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM, UH, CITIZENS TO BE HEARD AND THE APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL.

SO NOW WE GO TO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.

WE'LL START ON THE LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER ROGER MARTINEZ NOW.

NO, NO INPUT.

I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

, GO AHEAD.

UM, FIRST I WANNA THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR BEING HERE.

I KNOW HOW CHALLENGING IT IS.

JUST A WEEK OR TWO AGO I WAS ON YOUR SIDE.

UH, I WAS, I MEAN, PHYSICALLY ON YOUR SIDE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION AND I, AND IT MADE PUT MY STOMACH IN KNOTS.

AND SO, UM, I KNOW HOW CHALLENGING IT IS.

UM, AND SO I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE.

UM, I APPRECIATE THAT.

MY QUESTIONS ARE MOSTLY FOR THE, UM, DEVELOPER.

UM, YOU STATED SOME DATA THAT THE MULTI-FAMILY TRAFFIC IS ABOUT ALMOST HALF OF THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR THAT? UH, IT,

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IT MANUAL STANDARD ENGINEERING MANUAL, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ACKNOWLEDGED OKAY.

TECHNOLOGY.

SO, SO I CAN FIND THAT IN WRITING SOMEWHERE.

I JUST WANNA LOOK IT UP.

I CAN GET IT LATER, BUT YOU DO HAVE, UM, OKAY, I'LL, I'LL GET THAT.

U D C.

OKAY.

MY NEXT QUESTION RELATES TO THAT.

SO TYPICALLY IN A MULTI-FAMILY, UM, DWELLING, UH, THOSE TEND TO BE IN THE CITIES, UM, WHERE THERE'S ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

HOW CLOSE IS THIS DEVELOPMENT TO A REGIONAL CENTER OR A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION? UH, WE ARE, UH, NEARBY OTHER MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN A SIMILAR SITUATION.

AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY A MILE TO I 10 MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.

UH, BUT TO, UH, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

SO THE IDEA IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LESS TRAFFIC, BE LESS PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR CARS.

UM, WHERE ARE THEY, HOW FAR IS IT FOR THEM TO GET TO THE BUS STOP, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE REGIONAL CENTERS? I'M GONNA LET ROB FEEL THAT ONE.

THIS IS A, BY THE WAY, I, I LIVE OUT HERE.

I LIVE JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF I 10.

I LIVE OUT IN THE LEON SPRINGS AREA, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

IT'S HARD TO, HARD TO CATCH A BUS OUT IN THIS AREA.

NOW ACTUALLY, THE, THE TRAFFIC NUMBERS FROM THE IT MANUAL ARE NOT BASED ON THE IDEA THAT PE FEWER PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR CARS.

IT'S THE IDEA TO JUST HAVE FEWER PEOPLE WITH CARS PER UNIT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, A HOUSE IS GONNA HAVE TWO OR THREE CARS.

YOU HAVE A TEENAGE KID, YOUR WIFE, HUSBAND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TWO OR THREE CARS.

WHEREAS AN APARTMENT'S USUALLY ONE, ONE AND A HALF CARS IS WHAT IT AVERAGES OUT TO.

SO IT'S NOT BASED ON THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

BUT YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I LIVE OUT HERE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BUS ROUTES OUT THERE AND THEY GO UP AND DOWN BABCOCK AS WELL, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY, UH, CENTERS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S BASED ON JUST FEWER PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVING IN THE MULTI-FAMILY.

RIGHT.

UNITS PER YOU RATHER THAN ACTUAL, OKAY.

THAT'S WHY 200 HOUSES IS MORE CARS THAN 300 APARTMENTS.

YEAH.

SO THERE'S BASICALLY NO PUBLIC TR NO, WELL, THERE'S SOME PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BUT IT'S NOT A REASONABLE SOURCE OF TRANSPORT IN THE AREA.

I PUT A PLUGIN FOR VIA, THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT EXPANDING ROUTES.

THEY'RE DOING DATA ANALYTICS ALL THE TIME, LOOKING AT, UH, THE NUMBER OF RIDERS, WHERE THEY'RE GOING, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.

SO, UH, SO VIA DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB.

UH, THEY'RE JUST, AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE KINDS OF CENTERS THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY HAVE IN A MORE URBAN AREA.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, THE REGIONAL CENTER IS, HOW FAR FROM THERE? I KNOW THERE'S ONE OUT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF LARA, IS THAT RIGHT OR IS IT PRETTY FAR AWAY STILL? KAREN, DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? SORRY, SORRY.

I'M AFRAID NOT OFF TO DEFER STAFF OR SOMEONE ELSE HAS THE ANSWER TO THAT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT ACCESS.

CAN YOU CLARIFY, UM, RIGHT NOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXITS TO LISKY BOULEVARD, AND THEN THEY CAN GO EITHER WAY ON THAT TO GET TO BABCOCK OR, OR HEAD SOUTH.

UM, THE APARTMENTS, ARE THEY COMPLETELY SEPARATED SO THAT THEY COULDN'T GO FROM THE APARTMENTS TO LUKI BOULEVARD THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? OR ARE THEY, ARE THEY FORCED TO ONLY GO TO BABCOCK ROAD? SO ALL THAT TRAFFIC IS DIVERTED TO BABCOCK ROAD.

THE IDEA IS THAT ALL THE TRAFFIC WOULD GO TO BABCOCK ROAD.

WE WOULD HAVE A GATED ACCESS NOX BOX ONLY AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTION POINT THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.

AND THEN THERE, THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO EXISTING STOUTS INTO THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD STUB OUTS OF STREETS.

AND THAT IS FOR PHASE WAS INTENDED FOR PHASE TWO IN THE FUTURE, UM, WE ARE GONNA MAKE ONE OF THOSE A CUL-DE-SAC WITH LOTS AS A BUFFER TO THE HIGHER LOTS.

AND IN THE SECOND WOULD WOULD ACT ONLY AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS AND IT WOULD BE GATED LANDSCAPED AND ACCESSED ONLY BY EMERGENCY PERSONNEL.

NO CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES EVER.

NO CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC EVER.

NO RESIDENCE EVER.

WHEREAS CURRENTLY EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH THERE WITH CURRENT ZONING.

SO ALL RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENTS, AND IT LOOKED LIKE A FAIRLY LONG ROAD.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL FROM THE APARTMENTS TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND TO BABCOCK TO GET TO A STREET THAT THEY COULD EXIT.

IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A SHORTER DISTANCE FOR ROUTE THAN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S WITHIN A COUPLE OF MILES OF THE U T S A REGIONAL CENTER AREA.

THANK YOU.

ANOTHER QUESTION, , UH, EROSION WAS MENTIONED AS A POSSIBILITY.

I ASSUME EROSION STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE.

UH, ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, THE PURPOSE OF THE BUFFER IS TO, IS TO MINIMIZE THAT AS WELL.

THIS IS ON THE HILLTOP.

THE IDEA WITH MOST OF THIS PROJECT, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS THIS AREA WAS ALREADY GRADED, UH, BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER YEARS AND YEARS AGO AND LEFT IN AN EROSIVE SITUATION.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING ON THE HILLTOP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

WE'D PREFER TO BE EVEN FURTHER UP THE HILLTOP, BUT AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, THEY HAD ASKED FOR A BUFFER.

SO WE SHIFTED EVERYTHING A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE HILL.

BUT NOW IT IS ALL STILL ON A, ON A HILLTOP OR A RIDGE LINE, AND THERE'S GREEN SPACE IN BETWEEN ANY CREEKS AND SO FORTH FROM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

WHEREAS, UH, RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE MUCH CLOSER TO THOSE CREEKS AS A MATTER OF FACT.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S NOT, STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE WITH EROSION, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

JUST TO CLARIFY.

THE, THE, AND THE ENGINEERING DESIGN WILL ALSO HANDLE THAT TO, TO MINIMIZE EROSION OF ANY SORT.

MY LAST QUESTION, AND CITY CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THIS BETTER, UM, BABCOCK AND LUKI ROAD, UM, THE

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RESIDENT HAD MENTIONED WHERE HE WANTED TO GO WAS ONLY A MILE AND A HALF AND IT TOOK 30 MINUTES.

UM, WHAT'S THE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO WALK THROUGH ANY OF THIS AREA? THERE'S SIDEWALKS.

IS IT SAFE TO WALK A MILE'S? NOT VERY FAR.

WE WALK A MILE PRETTY COMMONLY DOWNTOWN.

UM, I KNOW PEOPLE TEND TO NOT, BUT THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC CONCERNS IF THERE WERE SIDEWALKS.

SO ARE THERE ANY, IS IT WALK, IS IT A WALKABLE AREA AT ALL? WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF IT IS ON A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM ON OUR FUTURE BOND PROGRAM.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANKS.

MY QUESTION IS, UH, THE DEVELOPER YES, MA'AM, WHO SPOKE IN OPPOSITION, UH, WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS LAND WHERE THE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE, WAS GOING TO BE OPEN SPACE.

THAT WAS NEVER THE CASE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY WERE TOLD BY OTHER FOLKS.

I'M NOT PRIVY TO THAT INFORMATION, BUT A MASTER PLAN HAS ALWAYS SHOWN THIS AS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY FOR THIS HALF OF THE PROJECT.

QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? JUST SOME COMMENTS.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, JUST REMINDING FOLKS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE YOU START HEARING LOTS OF ARGUMENTS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE AND RENTERS AND CRIME AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

OUR PURVIEW TODAY IS TO CONSIDER THE PLAN AMENDMENT FROM RURAL ESTATE TIER TO SUBURBAN TIER.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THAT RESPECT, UM, THOSE ISSUES AREN'T REALLY A CONSIDERATION.

HOWEVER, UM, THOSE ISSUES ARE ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE A APARTMENT COMPLEX OR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

DRAINAGE IS DRAINAGE, CONSTRUCTION, NOISE AND DUST OR CONSTRUCTION NOISE IN DUST, NO MATTER WHAT YOU'RE BUILDING IS GONNA HAPPEN.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT REALLY ISN'T A CONSIDERATION FOR US TODAY.

UM, SECOND, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE EVERYTHING ANYONE COULD EVER POSSIBLY ASK TO, UH, PROVIDE BUFFERS.

YOU'VE GOT 57% OF YOUR LAND IS GONNA BE GOING INTO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT IN OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS UNHEARD OF.

UM, YOU'RE GONNA BE SAVING A LOT OF TREES OVER WHAT COULD, WHAT IS NOT REALLY PERMITTED, BUT ALLOWED TODAY FOR A USE.

AND I THINK THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING, UM, YOU COULD DO A WHOLE LOT MORE DENSITY AND, AND HAVE A MUCH BIGGER PROJECT, BUT YOU'RE NOT, UM, AND TO ME THAT SAYS A LOT.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE COULD ASK ANYBODY COULD DO ANY MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE, THAN WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.

I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT NICE SEPARATION FROM THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, IT GOES DOWNHILL.

SO I'M, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT SEEING THE DRONE THING, THE DRONE STUDY OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK VIEWS ARE GONNA BE, UH, NOT IMPACTED SEVERELY.

UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.

UM, ONE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, ROB COMMENTED ON, YOU KNOW, THE RENTERS AND THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMMON MISNOMER THAT RENTERS ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, FUTURE CRIMINALS OR WHATEVER.

I'M A RENTER MYSELF AND, UH, EVERYONE ELSE IN MY COMMUNITY IS, AND WE'RE JUST A BUNCH OF GOOD PEOPLE, SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM EITHER.

UM, ANYWAY, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT AND, UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RAMOS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, JUST REAL QUICK, WHAT'S THAT DRONE STUDY SUPPOSED TO BE STUDYING OR WHAT IT WAS? THE, UH, THE INTENT OF THE DRONE STUDY WAS TO GO, UH, ELEVATE A DRONE TO THE TOP OF THE BUILDING FOR THE THREE BUILDINGS THAT ARE FURTHER UP THE HILL THAT WE HAD SEEN THAT WERE AT PAR WITH THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THAT AREA IN SOME OF THE EXISTING HOMES.

SO A DRONE WAS FLOWN AT THAT ELEVATION AND PICTURES TAKEN AND SO FORTH, WHICH, WHICH, UH, UH, THE ATTORNEYS HAVE, AND WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

BUT THEN THE, WHERE THE HOUSE LOCATION IS FLOW, THE SAME DRONE AGAIN, HE HAD MENTIONED THE, THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION IS THE SAME.

SO THE IDEA IS WORKED BASICALLY, WHICH WAS AN, WHICH WAS A PROPOSAL BY A RESIDENT, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHICH WAS A GREAT IDEA OF PUTTING SIX SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN BETWEEN BECAUSE THOSE HOME BUYERS WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE AND WOULD BE BUYING, KNOWING THAT IT IS MULTIFAMILY THERE, AND THAT THOSE, UH, TOPS OF THOSE PROPOSED HOUSES ACTUALLY BLOCK THE VIEW OF THE BUILDINGS FROM THE CULDESAC FROM THE INTERSECTION OF HAY HILL AND RIO RIDGE.

OKAY.

AND SO THEN THAT INFORMATION IS BEING DISSEMINATED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? CORRECT.

HOW, UH, OR SHOULD, WHEN THEY, SHOULD THEY, WHEN SHOULD THEY EXPECT RESULTS AND HOW WILL THEY, HOW WILL THEY BE MADE PUBLIC OR HOW WILL THEY NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER RAMOS.

SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WORKING ON RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.

WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE FIRST DRAFT TO THEM BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

WE'D ALSO LIKE TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION FROM THE DRONE STUDY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP BY THE END OF THE WEEK SO THEY CAN DISSEMINATE IT, UH, TO ALL ENTRUSTED FOLKS.

SO THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO GET THEM STUFF ELECTRONICALLY BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

SO WHEN IS THIS SUPPOSED TO GO TO? COUNCIL GOES OUR DATE? SEPTEMBER 19TH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

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SO ALL THAT INFORMATION WILL BE MADE PUBLIC BEFORE IT GETS TO THE COUNCIL.

OKAY.

YES, YES, MA'AM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NO QUESTION.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF.

CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THE, THE NATURE OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND WHO CONTROLS THAT? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, THAT QUESTION CAME UP AT, UH, ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL.

UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO, WHO REPRESENTS, UH, DISTRICT HS, WHO'S A ZONING COMMISSIONER FOR THIS CASE, ASKED THAT VERY QUESTION.

SHE SAID, ROB, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST CREATING A CONSERVATION EVEN THAT YOUR CLIENT CONTROLS, THAT'S GOTTA BE HELD BY SOMEONE ELSE.

AND OUR PREFERENCE IS THAT IT'S CROWN RIDGE.

IF CROWN RIDGE DOES NOT WANT, AND WE'RE GONNA OFFER THEM KIND OF RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL, IT WOULD BE GOING TO A THIRD PARTY.

SO WE AS THE DEVELOPER, PROPERTY OWNER, WOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO REVOKE IT.

SO WHAT IT DOES IS IT SAYS YOU CAN'T DEVELOP IN THAT AREA.

THE AREA REMAINS UNDISTURBED NATURAL.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WOULD BE A POTENTIAL THIRD PARTY? UH, THERE ARE GROUPS.

CROWN RIDGE IS THE, THE NATURE CONSERVANCY GROUPS LIKE THAT? YES.

OKAY.

AND CROWN RIDGE, THAT'S THE H O A THAT'S BY THE AREA, CORRECT? RIGHT, THERE'S THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE.

OKAY.

WHICH HAS THEIR OWN H O A AND THEN THERE'S THE MASTER CROWN RIDGE, H O A.

OKAY.

SO OUR THOUGHT WAS TO PRESENT IT TO CROWN RIDGE, THE MASTER, H O A.

OKAY.

SO THE H O A COULD TAKE IT, CONTROL IT, IT DO WHAT THEY WISH THEY DID, AND THEY WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PROTECTED.

IT'S NOT WHO WOULD SELECT A THIRD IF THEY DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT TO MAINTAIN IT.

FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE, WE WOULD WORK WITH CROWN RIDGE TO SELECT A THIRD PARTY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THEN IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU'RE WAIVING YOUR VESTED RIGHTS, I GUESS, BECAUSE THE, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS BEFORE THE CURRENT TREE ORDINANCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO, YEAH, THAT WAS ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO, UH, RAISED LAST WEEK.

UH, AND SHE'S VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.

SHE SERVED OBVIOUSLY ON THIS SPOT AS A PLANNING COMMISSION AND SERVED AS SERVED ON ZONING COMMISSION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

AND SHE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CROWN RIDGE OF TEXAS PRELIMINARY OVERALL AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH UNDER CHAPTER 2 45, THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHEN YOU HAVE A PERMIT, ORDINANCES ARE ADOPTED AFTER THAT PERMIT, LIKE A P O A D P, UH, DO NOT APPLY TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY UNLESS IT FALLS UNDER AN EXCEPTION.

AND SO, BASED ON PREVIOUS DETERMINATIONS BY THE CITY, THINGS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT, P O A D P, CROWN RIDGE, P O A D P, ARE VESTED FROM THE TREE ORDINANCE.

AND SO IT CURRENTLY SHOWS THE PO.

O A D P CURRENTLY SHOWS THIS PROPERTY AS SINGLE FAMILY.

SO IF IT WAS DEVELOPED AS SINGLE FAMILY, IT WOULD THEORETICALLY BE GRANDFATHERED IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED WAS EXEMPTED FROM THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.

THAT WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO'S, UH, THOUGHTS AT LEAST LAST WEEK.

SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IF WE CHANGE THE USE, WE'LL WAIVE OUR, UH, VEST RIGHTS.

WHAT I'VE ALSO DONE IS I HAVE DRAFTED IN OUR RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WHERE WE EXPLICITLY WAIVE THOSE RIGHTS AND COMPLY WITH ALL CURRENT CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ORDINANCES.

OKAY.

IS THAT, IS THAT, UM, YOU MENTIONED RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS? YES, SIR.

IS THAT PART OF THE, THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER? RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND SO WHAT KIND OF THINGS ARE, WERE YOU LOOKING AT PUTTING THOSE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS AS A RESULT OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS? SO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT DAVID TALKED ABOUT, THE BUFFER, PUTTING THOSE, CREATING THOSE, UH, CUL-DE-SAC HOUSES, UH, THE ACCESS POINT LIMITED TO BABCOCK ROAD AS OPPOSED TO GOING THROUGH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE WERE DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE FAMILY, THE WAIVING OF THE VEST OF RIGHTS PAYING, UH, H O A DUES, THOSE ARE ALL INCORPORATED IN THERE.

BUT THE BIGGEST THING, OF COURSE, IS THAT WE'LL ENTER INTO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

SO WE'LL HAVE A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS THAT REFERENCE THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

IT'S A BELT AND SUSPENDERS APPROACH.

SO IN THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, AS I HAVE DRAFTED THEM, IT SAYS THAT THOSE AREAS WILL REMAIN UNDEVELOPED AND UNDISTURBED.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL ALSO CREATE, WE'LL ALSO CREATE A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

SO WE'LL HAVE 'EM IN THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS AND WE'LL HAVE 'EM IN A SEPARATE DOCUMENT, THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

OKAY.

UM, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS AN INITIAL PLAN FOR, FOR THE LAYOUT AND THEN THEY GOT MODIFIED.

WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS INITIAL PLAN AND THE, THE CURRENT LAYOUT? INITIAL LAYOUT, UH, HAD SOMEWHERE AROUND 350.

WE REDUCED IT TO 3 25 AND THEN, UH, AT THE REQUEST OF, UH, PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, WE REDUCED IT FURTHER TO 300 HAVING DELETED A BUILDING.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE STAND CURRENTLY.

WHILE, AND WHILE I'M UP HERE, IF THAT'S OKAY, UH, I'LL MENTION BACK TO CROWN RIDGE.

THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD IS HERE AND, AND IS HAS, WE'VE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ACCEPTING THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND THEY WOULD PREFER IT THAT WAY, AND THEY DO INTEND TO DO THAT IF THIS GOES FORWARD.

OKAY.

UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF.

THERE WAS MENTIONED, I THINK THE, THE COMMUNITY MENTIONED THAT THERE'S A, THERE WAS A MASTER PLAN, UH, FOR

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THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, SHOWING I GUESS A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND WHETHER THAT BECOMES SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING OR WHETHER THAT'S, UH, MULTIFAMILY.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S CONTROLLED BY THE DEVELOPER OR IS THAT SOMETHING, ARE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE PLAN? THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN? SO MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE SUBMITTED PRETTY EARLY ON IN A DEVELOPMENT, KIND OF LAY OUT THE PHASING FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PLAT.

UH, THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT.

I WOULD HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK TO SEE WHEN THE ORIGINAL M D P WAS SUBMITTED.

OKAY.

UM, BUT AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS CONCERNED, UH, DO WE KNOW WHICH WAY, UH, 'CAUSE THIS AREA HASN'T BEEN LOOKED AT BY THE S A TOMORROW PROCESS? IS THAT CORRECT? THIS, THIS AREA IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF ANY OF THE REGIONAL CENTERS THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING PRETTY EXTENSIVELY ON.

UM, AS KATT MENTIONED, IT'S WITHIN A COUPLE MILES OF THE U T S A REGIONAL CENTER.

UH, BUT I BELIEVE THE U T S A REGIONAL CENTER, THE U T SS, A REGIONAL CENTER PLAN IS STILL PENDING CITY COUNCIL, UH, ACTION.

OKAY.

SO, BUT THIS, THIS AREA IS, IS TOO, UH, IT'S TOO NORTH TO HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN ANY OF THE REGIONAL CENTERS.

OH, OKAY.

SO, SO AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE A FUTURE, A POTENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.

I THINK, I THINK IT'S IN THE NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN THAT'S IN THE FUTURE PHASES.

OKAY.

BUT, AND, AND RIGHT NOW STAFF IS, IS BASICALLY SAYING THAT THIS CHANGE IS IN COMPLIANT WITH THAT PLAN.

IS THAT CORRECT? WITH YES.

WELL, AGAIN, THEY HAVEN'T STARTED THE WORK ON THIS, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S WITHIN THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN.

AND SO, AND IT'S ADJACENT TO OTHER SUBURBAN TIER.

SO YES, WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO BE SUBURBAN TIER IN THIS AREA.

OKAY.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY SEEMED TO MENTION WAS SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES, WHICH AS, AS STATED BEFORE IS NOT NECESSARILY OUR ISSUE, BUT WHERE DOES THAT GET REPORTED TO SO THAT, UM, TRANSPORTATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS CAN START LOOKING AT THOSE ISSUES SO THAT THEY'RE PROPERLY ADDRESSED? YEAH, SO T C I HAS A, A STORM WATER AND DRAINAGE DIVISION OF THAT DEPARTMENT, AND THEY WILL BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN REVIEWING ANY DEVELOPMENT PLANS, BOTH AT THE PLATT AND BUILDING PERMIT STAGE.

SO IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO BE APPROVED, UH, THAT DIVISION WOULD BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN REVIEWING THE PROPOSAL TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

OKAY.

AND, AND IF THERE'S COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND DOES THAT, I GUESS WITH THE, UM, STAFF ASSIGNED TO THE PROJECT, IF YOU WILL, THEY LET T C I KNOW, HEY, PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT'S, THERE'S DRAINAGE OR THERE'S RUNOFF AND ALL THESE ISSUES.

IS THAT KIND OF PART OF THE STANDARD PROCESS, THE DRAINAGE OR TRAFFIC ISSUES REVIEW? YEAH, THE DRAINAGE REVIEW HAS TO MEET CODE.

SO ONCE IT MEETS CODE, THEN THE PLATT CAN MOVE FORWARD FOR APPROVAL.

ONCE ALL OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE PLAT MEET CODE, THEN IT MOVES FORWARD.

OKAY.

SO IT JUST HAS TO MEET CODE.

AS LONG AS IT MEETS CODE, THEN IT'S GOOD.

AND THEN THERE'S THE PROCESS FOR BUILDING IT AND INSPECTIONS.

SO THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY BUILD IT TO THE PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED AS PART OF THE REVIEW AGAINST THE CODE.

OKAY.

I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WHEN WE GET, WHEN PEOPLE COME AND TELL US THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH DRAINAGE OR TRAFFIC OR SOMETHING, THERE'S A METHOD FOR THAT INFORMATION TO BE RELAYED TO T C I SO THAT THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THIS PROJECT OR THROUGH A FUTURE BOND PROJECT OR SOMEHOW ABSOLUTELY.

THAT PROCESS ALWAYS EXISTS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT, UM, A LITTLE BIT LATER, EMERGENCY SERVICES NOT BEING AS RESPONSIVE AS FIELD OF LIKE, WHERE DOES THAT GET ADDRESSED TO FIRE DEPARTMENT? SO AGAIN, EITHER WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL DISTRICT OR CALLING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES ARE ACCORDING TO, UH, THEIR RULES.

UH, BUT THAT'S AGAIN, PART OF THE ASSESSMENT EVERY YEAR THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GOES THROUGH TO DETERMINE IF THEY NEED TO ADD A FIRE STATION IN THE BUDGET.

UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS EVALUATING RESPONSE TIMES TO DETERMINE IF THEY NEED TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

SO THAT, SO THEY CAN EITHER CONTACT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR, OR POLICE DEPARTMENT OR JUST CONTACT THEIR CITY COUNCIL OFFICE AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE RESPONSE TIMES, WE SHOULD BE IN THIS AREA.

OKAY.

UM, THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE, THE SECTION EIGHT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALL THAT.

HOW DOES THAT APPLY TO DEVELOPMENT JUST FOR GENERAL PURPOSES AND HOW THAT WORKS OUT? SO SECTION EIGHT AND AFFORDABLE, UH, HOUSING ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.

OKAY.

UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS BASED ON, UH, TAX CREDIT APPROVALS USUALLY APPLY THROUGH THE STATE, THROUGH THEIR PROGRAM IN ORDER TO GET TAX CREDIT IN ORDER TO BUILD A COMPLEX.

THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES IS, UH, MARKET RATE, UH, HOUSING.

SECTION EIGHT IS A VOUCHER PROGRAM, AND THAT CAN OCCUR ANYWHERE, WHETHER IT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION NEXT DOOR, OR, UH, WHETHER IN, UH, APARTMENT UNITS.

IT'S JUST A VOUCHER PROGRAM THAT CAN OCCUR ANYWHERE.

OKAY.

SO BASICALLY THE OWNER WOULD JUST APPLY FOR THAT PROGRAM AND IF THEY END UP GETTING IT, THEN OKAY.

AND THAT'S A FEDERAL PROGRAM,

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CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND, AND ONE, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED FOR RURAL TIER, SO THEY CAN DO SINGLE FAMILY.

HOW MANY UNITS TOTAL COULD THEY DO? A SINGLE FAMILY? 300.

ONE.

301 BASED ON A DENSITY OF SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE.

43 ACRES.

OKAY.

3 0 1.

AND THEN I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS ABOUT 300 UNITS AS APARTMENTS? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THREE WE'RE CAPPING IT.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE CAP IT AT 300.

OKAY.

UH, MY QUESTIONS ARE DONE FOR NOW.

IT SOUNDS LIKE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

YES.

UH, IS THIS PROPERTY, UH, ON THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RESOURCE ZONE? NO, MA'AM.

UM, I KNOW THERE WAS COMMENTS ABOUT CRIME, AND I JUST WANNA STATE THAT, UM, WHETHER THE CRIM, THE, A CRIMINAL'S A CRIMINAL, WHETHER THEY'RE STEALING FROM THE, UH, THE CASH REGISTER OR SKIMMING OFF THE TOP AND EMBEZZLING THEIR COMPANY'S MONEY.

SO THAT BEING SAID, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION, UM, ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE UNIT.

SO, UM, SORRY, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO TRAFFIC AND THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES.

SO YOU SAID SINGLE FAMILY HOME TYPICALLY IS GONNA HAVE THE PARENTS EACH HAVE A CAR AND THE KID HAS A CAR, AND YOU'RE ASSUMING A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE.

WHAT SIZE ARE THESE APARTMENTS GONNA BE? SO, UH, WHO ARE THEY GONNA BE MARKETED TO? VARI A VARIATION OF, OF UNIT SIZES.

1, 2, 3 BEDROOMS. YOU COULD HAVE THREE CARS IN ONE OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.

SOME, BUT WE, WITH THE THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS, YOU ALWAYS HAVE A LESSER PERCENTAGE BECAUSE AS YOU GET TO LARGER UNITS, THEY'RE LESS RENTED, THEY'RE EASIER TO RENT, UH, ONE AND TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS, SO YOU HAVE MORE ONE AND TWO BEDROOM.

RIGHT.

AND, AND I, I'M GONNA GUESS A LOT OF THESE ARE GONNA BE ROOMMATE SITUATIONS.

SO RATHER THAN A, A FAMILY WITH A BABY, YOU ALSO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, TWO SINGLE ADULTS LIVING IN THE SAME PLACE WHO WILL EACH HAVE A VEHICLE.

IT'S POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU.

DO, DO YOU KNOW, UM, SO IF THIS PASSES WILL GET APARTMENTS, BUT IF IT DOESN'T, WAS THERE A CHANCE THAT YOU STILL END UP WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY LAYOUT, WHICH HAS, IS THAT THE KIND OF CHOICE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS, THAT THE COMMUNITY WHO LIVES NEXT TO IT IS LOOKING AT? UH, YOU KNOW, OUR CLIENT WANTS TO DEVELOP MULTI-FAMILY, SO OKAY.

THEY WOULD SELL IT TO SOMEONE WHO WOULD DO SINGLE FAMILY, I WOULD ASSUME, UH, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE COST LINE, THEY'RE GONNA DO SINGLE FAMILY THAT THEY'RE GONNA MAX OUT, YOU KNOW, BILL AS MANY, LOTS AS THEY CAN OUT THERE.

THEY WILL STILL HAVE, WE THINK, VESTED RIGHTS.

THEY WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO THE TREE ORDINANCE, BUT YEAH, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD JUST DO A DENSE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE IF THIS IS DENIED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, LAST QUESTION FROM ME FOR STAFF, WAS ANY OF THAT GREEN SPACE OUT THERE A PUBLIC PARK? OR IS IT ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY? IT WAS ALL PRIVATE.

PRIVATE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW, WE GET THIS IN FRONT OF US A LOT WHERE PEOPLE, THEY, THEY BUY A HOUSE, THEY LOVE THE GREEN SPACE AROUND THEM, BUT IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO AT SOME POINT THAT OWNER, UH, DEVELOPS IT AND THEN WE, WE GET WHAT WE HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE TODAY, AND PEOPLE ARE UPSET THAT, UM, THE, THE GREEN SPACE THAT THEY WERE TOLD THAT IT'S GONNA BE THERE IS NO LONGER GONNA BE THERE.

AND THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN REMEDY THAT IS BY TAKING THAT UP WITH THE DEVELOPER.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

THAT BEING SAID, IF THERE'S NO OTHER, ONE MORE QUESTION.

OH, QUICK QUESTION FOR EITHER, UH, MR. KILLEN, I THINK PROBABLY, UH, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO SOME TURN LANES.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE DECIDED UPON YOUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE JUST GOING TO NO, WE'RE DOING THE TURN LANES.

YOU'RE GONNA DO THE TURN LANES.

WE'RE DOING THE EXCEL AND DESAL LANES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

UM, WITH THAT SAID, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BACK.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER PECK.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.

THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

AND CAN STAFF DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER ROHR EGRIN? YES.

COMMISSIONER CARILLO? NO.

COMMISSIONER RAMOS? YES.

COMMISSIONER KOSTICK? YES.

COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA? WELL, I THINK I'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, SO VOTE NO ON THIS ONE.

THANK YOU.

NO.

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OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

MOTION PASSES.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 19.

[19. 19-6571 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2019-11600055 (Council District 2): A request by Brown & Ortiz, P.C., representative, for approval of a Resolution to amend the Camelot 1 Neighborhood Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Business Park” to “Medium Density Residential” on Lots 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7, Block 2, NCB 16927 and Lots 2, 3, 4, and 5, Block 3, NCB 16927, generally located west of Walzem Road and Dial Ike Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2019-10700192) (Patricia Franco, Planner (210) 207-5876, patricia.franco@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]

'CAUSE ITEM NUMBER 1518 WAS PULLED.

IT IS 3 0 6.

AND COMMISSIONER CARILLO IS, UH, ABOUT TO LEAVE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS PATRICIA FRANCO ZONING GENERALLY LOCATED WEST OF WALHAM ROAD AND DIAL, IKE DRIVE.

ITEM 19 IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE CAMELOT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FROM BUSINESS PARK TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

11 NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM BUSINESS PARK TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS REQUESTED IN ORDER TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO MF 18 LIMITED DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT, CONSISTENT WITH THE KAMALA ONE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS.

CALL FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES TO BE A LONG COLLECTORS AND RESIDENTIAL ROADWAYS.

THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE WILL SERVE AS A BUFFER BETWEEN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND MORE INTENSE LAND USES, SUCH AS COMMERCIAL STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CROWD? THE COMMISSION? HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

JAMES GRIFFIN, BRANDON ORTIZ, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN, UH, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE WE'RE, UM, JUST OFF OF WALHAM WHERE WALHAM RUNS FROM LOOP FOUR 10 AND THEN KIND OF DEAD ENDS AND STARTS TO HEAD, HEAD EAST, UM, SOUTHEAST THERE IS RIGHT WHERE CITY OF WINDCREST AND THE END OF CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND THEN YOU HAVE CONVERSA A LITTLE FURTHER.

UM, THIS WAS ACTUALLY A, IT'S A LITTLE OVER EIGHT ACRES.

IT WAS, UM, REZONED AND PLATTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO C THREE COMMERCIAL AND THEN PLATTED LOTS AS A, AS A BUSINESS PARK THAT, UH, THAT THAT NEVER REALLY TOOK OFF.

UH, NOW YOU SEE THERE'S, UM, UH, JUST TO OUR SOUTH, THERE'S A NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

UH, FOR A WHILE IT'S BEEN KIND OF VACANT LAND AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS SAN ANTONIO NEEDS, NEEDS MORE HOMES AND, AND PLACES TO LIVE, THE THE AREA IS GROWING MORE.

UH, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE IS A, A DUPLEX PROJECT.

UM, UH, 88 TOTAL UNITS.

SO 44 BUILDINGS ACROSS THE EIGHT ACRES THERE.

UH, AS FAR AS THE LAND USE, YOU CAN SEE AND YOU HEARD FROM STAFF, UH, REALLY A, A KIND OF TEXTBOOK TRANSITION BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL USES.

YOU HAVE A WALMART, UH, RIGHT THERE WHERE IT SAYS BUSINESS PARK, UH, TO OUR LEFT, UH, WALHAM, OBVIOUSLY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.

UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY, UH, JUST TO OUR SOUTH, WHERE, WHERE IT SAYS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, ON THAT MAP.

UM, SO THIS IS A KINDA MEDIUM, UH, INTENSITY, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT, UH, NICE BUFFER BETWEEN TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL AND, AND OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE HOUSING, UH, WHERE IT'S, WHERE IT'S NEEDED AND, AND DESIRED.

UM, UH, THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL.

WE, UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AS, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP.

UM, JUST MET A COUPLE, UH, FOLKS, MS. STONE AND MS. WILSON FROM, UH, KIND OF THE NEARBY AREA.

AND WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THEM ON, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT THIS, THIS AREA NEEDS, UM, TALKED ABOUT A, A LACK OF KIND OF PARKS AND, AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES IN THE AREA.

SO WE'RE GONNA, UH, WORK WITH THEM, HAVE A, HAVE A MEETING AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO, TO MAKE THIS PROJECT EVEN BETTER AND, UH, HELP BENEFIT THE AREA.

UH, BUT THAT'S REALLY IT IN A NUTSHELL.

UM, SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND, UM, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR, UH, SUPPORT OF, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT, WE'LL HAVE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD YOU.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UM, FIRST PERSONS HAVE TO SPEAK IS GWEN WILSON.

SO MY NAME IS GWEN WILSON.

I LIVE AT 5 0 9 SUN HAVEN DRIVE.

I'M WITH THE WALLS AND ROAD AREA REVITALIZATION IN ROSEVILLE HIGH SCHOOL, PT S SA.

UH, IN REGARDS TO THE LEGISLATION DETAILS ON THE PARTICULAR PROPERTY, LIKE WE'VE EXPLAINED, UM, TO THE ATTORNEY, IS THAT PARTICULAR AREA, UH, WHERE IT SITS, IT SITS IN THE CAMELOT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AREA CA THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S SEVEN OR EIGHT OTHER COMPLEXES,

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APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE IN AND OUT AND THROUGH AND AROUND THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, HOWEVER, ONLY, UM, SEEKS THE INTEREST OF THE HOMEOWNERS SO THAT THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT AND THAT ARE COMING FROM THE RENTERS, PARTICULARLY IN THE PARTICULAR AREA.

THE LOOKED IT UP TODAY AND THERE'S 69% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE 7 8 2 1 8 ZIP CODE, WHICH IS THAT AREA ARE RENTERS.

SO YOU ALREADY HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT VESTED PER SE IN THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

UH, IT'S IN NORTHEAST SCHOOL DISTRICT.

NORTHEAST IS YET TO START ANY KIND OF PLANS FOR THE PROPERTIES ALREADY BEING BUILT THERE.

THERE'S SOME HOUSES BEING BUILT A LITTLE BIT OVER FROM THAT.

AND DOWN AT THE END OF THE STREET WHERE WALHAM GOES INTO THE EISENHOWER AREA, THERE ARE MULTIPLE HOUSES GOING UP.

THE HIGH SCHOOL, ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL UP ON WALHAM IS ALREADY OVERCROWDED.

25 OF THE TEACHERS FLOAT DAILY FOR CLASS BECAUSE IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH.

SO BRINGING IN ANOTHER 88 FAMILIES OR PEOPLE, AND YOU EXPECT SOME OF 'EM TO BE FAMILIES ANYWAY, THAT'S MORE KIDS INTO THE AREA.

UM, THE GRADES IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THAT AREA, WHICH THERE ARE THREE OF THEM THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED AREN'T THE GREATEST BECAUSE THE DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT OUT INTO THE SCHOOLS THAT'S ALREADY NEEDED, UH, $20 MILLION WORTH OF PROPERTY AROUND THAT AND INCLUDING PARTS OF THAT.

UH, THAT PROPERTY WENT UNTAXED FOR 12 YEARS.

NO TAXES WERE PAID.

CITY OF WIND CREST'S NAME WAS ON IT.

NO TAXES GOT PAID, AND NOW THE PROPERTY'S BEING SOLD OFF TO DIFFERENT PLACES.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECORDS, CITY OF WINDCREST DOESN'T GET ANY OF THOSE PROPERTY PROFITS FROM THAT, THOSE SALES AT ALL.

THEY'RE GOING ELSEWHERE.

UM, AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION IN THAT AREA, THERE'S A BUS 6 32, IT RUNS ONLY ON SATURDAYS, AND IT DOES NOT COME AROUND THAT PARTICULAR AREA THROUGH THERE, RIGHT BY IT, IT GOES TO WALMART AND A COUPLE OTHER PLACES AROUND THERE, BUT THERE'S NO, THERE AREN'T BUSES THAT RUN DOWN WALLS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IN THE LAST, UH, 10, 15 YEARS, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS DONE NOTHING IN THE AREA AT ALL.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S PART OF DISTRICT TWO, TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING PAID BY THE BUSINESSES, NONE ARE COMING BACK INTO THE AREA.

SO ALREADY YOU'RE BATTLING THE SITUATION WHERE IT'S GOING DOWNHILL AND DOWNHILL FAST WITH MANY CHILDREN AND MANY SENIORS.

I THINK 65% OF THE PEOPLE ARE SENIORS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER NINE TO 14 YEAR OLDS.

UH, THAT'S ANOTHER LARGE POPULATION THAT'S 30 SECONDS.

SO, UH, AS FAR AS A RECREATION FACILITY, THE Y M C A SITS THERE ON WALLS, AND THAT'S THE ONLY ONE IN THE AREA SITS ON WALLS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO CLOSE THEIR DOORS.

THEY'VE ALREADY CLOSED THEIR POOL AND THEY'RE TRYING TO CLOSE THEIR DOORS COMPLETELY AND MOVE.

SO YOU'D BE A COMMUNITY WITHOUT ANY TYPES OF, UM, ACTIVITIES FOR ANYBODY.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY IT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING NO, THESE DON'T GIVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT UP TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK IS PATRICIA, PATRICIA SLOAN.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS PATRICIA STONE.

I RESIDE AT 74 18 COUNCIL THRONE.

UM, TO BEGIN, WE DEFINITELY PUT IT IN A NUTSHELL.

WE ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY SINCE 1992, UH, WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, MOVED TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY, BUT THEN MOVED BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY, BUT ALWAYS BEEN A COMMUNITY MEMBER THERE.

THE MAIN THING, MY MAIN CONCERN IS BEING AGAINST THIS HERE IS BECAUSE OF, UH, FORD BEING THE RENTAL.

MAYBE IF IT WAS THE BUYERS, IF IT WAS BUYERS COMING IN, IT'D BE A DIFFERENT STORY.

WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MANY PROBLEMATIC APARTMENTS, DUPLEXES THAT'S IN THE AREA THAT'S BRINGING THE COMMUNITY DOWN.

WE NEED PEOPLE COMING IN AND WORRIED ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY, BEING ABLE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT IMPROVEMENT, CONCERNED ABOUT REBUILDING, LOOKING AT OUR KIDS, LOOKING AT OUR ELDERLY.

WHAT IS THIS COMMUNITY GONNA DO FOR THEM? WE HAVE ALREADY, NOBODY'S LOOKING AT, IT'S ALREADY OVERCROWDED.

AND TO BRING IN MORE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, UH, YEAH, THESE PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.

IT'S A BRAND NEW, A BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE SOMEWHERE TO LIVE, BUT WHAT IS THERE FOR MY KID TO, UH, UH, PARTICIPATE IN WHAT IS THERE FOR MY SENIOR TO DO THERE? NOBODY'S LOOKING AT THIS.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THERE.

THAT IS FINE IF I WAS SOMEONE LOOKING INTO THIS COMMUNITY AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S A BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED.

OKAY.

HOW ARE THE SCHOOLS

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DOING? THESE SCHOOLS NEED, NEED IMPROVEMENT.

GRANTED, WE NEED MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO STEP UP.

IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SIT BACK AND COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT'S NOT GOING ON, GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT NOBODY'S STEP STEPPING UP.

WE NEED TO TAKE THESE COMMUNITIES BACK AND BRINGING IN MORE, UH, UH, DUPLEXES AND APARTMENTS WHEN WE ALREADY OVERCROWDED AND WE ALREADY HAVING THE CRIME RATES AND, AND EVERYTHING AFFECTED BY THESE APARTMENTS.

WHY DON'T WE DO SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THIS COMMUNITY? THAT'S MY MAIN THING FOR BEING TOTALLY AGAINST THIS.

UH, AS YOU TALKED ABOUT THE Y M C A, WE HAVE NOTHING THERE.

THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT, AND I WAS AFFECTED BY IT.

I'M STILL, I, I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO BE, TO HAVE TO GO TO OTHER COMMUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN STUFF WHEN, UH, I'M IN A COMMUNITY THAT, UH, I LIKE TO TAKE THIS COMMUNITY BACK.

I NEED PEOPLE TO, TO BACK US UP.

WE NEED PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP AND LET THEIR VOICES BE HEARD.

LIKE I SAID, I WAS AFFECTED BY THE Y M C A, THAT WAS THE MAIN THING THAT I ENJOYED DOING.

THAT WAS THE MAIN THING THAT WAS IN THE COMMUNITY.

NOW THAT'S BEING TAKEN AWAY.

LIKE YOU SAY, THEY TOOK AWAY THE POOL AND THEY'RE BARELY JUST TIPTOEING AWAY AND GETTING AWAY FROM THE AREA BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

SO WHEN THAT IS TAKEN AWAY, YOU GOT THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, BUT WHAT IS THERE FOR US TO ENJOY? WHO'S, WHO'S STANDING UP FOR THE KIDS, WHO'S STANDING UP FOR, UH, OUR SENIORS, BRING IN PROGRAMS, BRING IN THE PARK.

WE NEED TO GET BACK TO, BACK IN MY DAY WHEN WE WAS OUTSIDE PLAYING, WE NEED TO GET BACK TO HAVING RECREATION CENTERS, COMMUNITY EDUCATION, UH, UH, UH, COMMUNITY CENTERS.

WE NEED TO GET OUR KIDS BACK PLAYING.

WE NEED TO GET THE FAMILIES, UH, STRENGTHENING THE FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GET BACK.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT NEEDS TO BE OUR FOCUS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS POINT, THE, UM, APPLICANT IS ABLE TO PROVIDE A REBUTTAL.

UH, THANK YOU.

I'LL, I'LL BE BRIEF.

UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE, UH, ON THE SAME PAGE HERE FOR, FOR THE MOST PART.

I MEAN, WE WANNA, UH, THE FOLKS THAT ARE BUILDING THESE HOMES ARE LOCAL.

THEY'RE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

UM, DO THESE AROUND TOWN.

UH, WANNA DO THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, GOOD FOR THE AREA.

UM, SO I THINK WE CAN LEARN A LOT MORE FROM, UM, FROM THESE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TODAY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY IS, IS NEEDED HERE.

AND, AND OUR FOLKS ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO KIND OF WORK ON THOSE THINGS.

UM, GOING BACK TO THE, THE EXAMPLE OF THE, THE PARK, UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO FIT, UM, AND, AND, UH, CONSTRUCT A, A SMALL LITTLE PARK IN THIS AREA.

SO THERE IS SOMETHING NOT JUST FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY, UH, THAT CAN BE USED.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, PARK WITH THE BASKETBALL COURT OR FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME, UM, UH, A LOT TO LEARN, UH, FROM HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

UM, WE, WE'VE EXCHANGED CONTACT INFORMATION, SO WE'LL DEFINITELY BE, UH, KEEPING UP THE CONVERSATION.

UM, BUT, UH, AS, AS YOU SAW FROM THE PICTURES, UM, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN, BEEN SOME TRASH ON, ON THE PROPERTY.

IT'S UNDEVELOPED.

IT IS IN A UNIQUE SPOT, BEING WEDGED IN BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

SO FROM A, A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, AND THE, THE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT TODAY, UH, REALLY IS A PERFECT FIT.

AND AS YOU HEARD FROM FROM STAFF, THEY'RE SUPPORTING IT FOR THOSE REASONS.

UM, SO, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A QUALITY PROJECT, UH, MUCH NEEDED PRODUCT, UH, AND, AND AN APPROPRIATE AREA.

UM, AND, UH, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON, ON MAKING SURE IT'S THE BEST PROJECT POSSIBLE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, NOW WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND WE'LL HAVE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS THIS TIME WE'LL START ON THE RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER RAMOS.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, JUST A, I GUESS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE, FOR YOU , UM, AND ALSO I GUESS CITY STAFF RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE JUST PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS OR THE ONES THAT ARE DARK, THE WITH STRIPES.

WHO OWNS THE PROPERTIES OUTSIDE THOSE AREAS THAT ARE STILL C THREE? GREAT QUESTION.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN FLIP TO THE AERIAL OR, OR I CAN HAND YOU THIS, IT, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE MAPS, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE DECEIVING.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A ROAD THAT IS BUILT, UH, CONNECTING PARK CREST AND DIAL ALIKE.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S A, A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AT THE CORNER OF DIAL ALIKE AND WALHAM.

SO ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS KIND OF BROKEN UP, IT REALLY IS.

THEY'RE ALL, UH, CONTIGUOUS PARCELS THERE.

UH, AGAIN, THE ROAD, UH, THERE'S BEEN A, A ROAD FAIRLY RECENTLY BUILT THROUGH, UH, ALSO SO FOR THIS WAL AREA.

SO, SO GO AHEAD.

I'M ASKING ABOUT THE C THREES AROUND THERE.

SO THERE'S SOME PROPERTIES ALREADY

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BUILT OUT, IT LOOKS LIKE.

CORRECT.

SO YOU HAVE THE, THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S FACING WALHAM, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF PARK CREST THERE, THAT, THAT KIND OF DEAD END ROAD THERE.

UH, YOU SEE TO THE LEFT, THAT WAS A WALMART THAT WAS BUILT AND IN THE PAST 10 YEARS OKAY.

OR SO, FAIRLY NEW.

UM, YOU HAVE A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY KIND OF AT THE BOTTOM THERE, AND THEN THE AERIAL'S A LITTLE OUTDATED, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN SEE THE PLATTED LOTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT STORAGE FACILITY OF THE R FOUR SUBDIVISION.

UH, THAT'S A, A PROPERTY THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE THE, THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, ARE VACANT, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE GREAT ACCESS GOING FROM, FROM THAT WALLUM UP TO PARK CREST THROUGH THE EAST WEST WALHAM.

UM, BUT A UNIQUE PROPERTY THERE IN A SENSE THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT CONDUCIVE FOR MORE COMMERCIAL, NOT CONDUCIVE FOR TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY.

UM, AND, AND NOT A WHOLE LOT OF REALLY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS OTHER THAN, UH, THE STORAGE FACILITY THERE, JUST OFF THE SCREEN.

AND, UH, AND THAT RESIDENTIAL FURTHER TO YOUR SOUTH.

SO YOU MENTIONED THE DEVELOPER.

WHO IS THE ACTUAL DEVELOPER OF THIS, OR WHO'S THE PROPERTY OWNER? BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THEY HAVE DEVELOPED PROPERTIES ACROSS THE CITY AND VERY, I GUESS, FRIENDLY.

YEAH, THE, THE, THE COMPANY'S CALLED M C A, IT'S, IT'S TWO GUYS, UH, ANDY RODRIGUEZ AND, AND CLAY SLINKY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

UM, THEY, THEY HAVE NOT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY YET.

THEY HAVEN'T UNDER CONTRACT PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THIS.

UM, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT IS, AS YOU SAW, THE ZONE C THREE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT COMMERCIAL BUILDERS OR DEVELOPERS.

SO, UH, THEY NEED TO GET THE PROPERTIES REZONED TO ALLOW FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IN OUR PURVIEW TO, YOU KNOW, PUSH FOR THOSE AMENITIES AND KNOW WE'RE JUST DOING WHAT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION ROLE IS TOO.

BUT FOR NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY SUCH DENSITY, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF DENSITY IN THE AREA AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF AMENITIES.

I MEAN, THIS IS, I GUESS A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN VOCALIZE IT.

UM, SO IF THERE'S A CHANCE FOR YOU TO CONNECT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND MAYBE SHOW 'EM SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT M C A HAS DEVELOPED AND HOW THEY PLAN TO MAYBE INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD, THAT'D BE JUST A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THEIR VOICE IS HEARD.

SO, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S ALL I I ASK, SO THANK YOU.

NO QUESTIONS.

NO, NO QUESTIONS.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN A COMMENT.

SO LOOKING ON THE, THE GOOGLE MAP OR GOOGLE SATELLITE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE, SO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE RIGHT BY WALHAM ROAD, RIGHT? AND THEN THERE'S A BIG OPEN AREA BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND CAMELOT, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

YEAH.

SO CAMELOT'S A LOT FURTHER TO THE WEST THERE.

YEAH, IF YOU CAN ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE DO WE HAVE THE POINTER? OH, THERE YOU GO.

AREA THAT YOU'RE DEVELOPING IS RIGHT BY THOSE ROADS THERE, WALHAM AND IKE AND THAT AREA.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S A BIG GAP BETWEEN WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE THE HOUSING IS.

UH, CRAIG, YEAH, THE CAMELOT, UH, THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS OFF HERE.

UH, RIGHT HERE IS WHERE, AGAIN, THIS AERIAL'S A LITTLE OUTDATED.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ACTUALLY HOMES UP, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY CONSTRUCTION UNDERWAY, KINDA RIGHT HERE.

THAT'S A NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS IS STILL ALL, UM, UNDEVELOPED AND VACANT.

SO, UM, YEAH, YOU HAVE CAMELOT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE ESTABLISHED, UH, RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A FEW DECADES.

AND THEN THIS IS NEW HOUSING, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING ZONED R FOUR RIGHT HERE GOING UP THAT AGAIN, HADN'T, HADN'T BEEN UPDATED YET.

THANK YOU.

UM, OKAY.

AND, AND THAT'S ALL FOR YOU.

I REALLY JUST HAVE A, A COMMENT FOR THE RESIDENTS.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR, FOR BEING HERE.

AND IT, UH, WHEN I WAS ON THE HOUSING TASK FORCE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE EMPHASIZING IS THAT DEVELOPERS NEEDED TO WORK CLOSELY WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS NEEDED TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS TO ADDRESS THE POINTS THAT YOU ARE BRINGING UP.

UM, THAT'S REALLY UP TO THEM TO DO.

AND THE CORRECT POLITICAL AVENUE FOR THAT IS WORKING WITH YOUR SCHOOL BOARD TO REALLY PUSH THAT ISSUE.

IT'S A, IT'S A CONCERN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

UM, AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A, A LANDLOCKED SCHOOL AND THERE, WE'RE GONNA PUT IN 800 APARTMENT UNITS AND WE SAID, WHERE ARE THE KIDS GONNA GO? UM, SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, IT IS WORKING WITH YOUR SCHOOL BOARD TO DO THAT.

SO I'M GONNA, ALL OF THE ISSUES YOU HAVE RELATED TO THE SCHOOLS, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND, UM, GOING TO YOUR SCHOOL BOARD.

UM, AND AS FAR AS ALL THE AMENITIES, I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THE DEVELOPER WILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE WHAT ARE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD NEED.

THAT CERTAINLY WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO IMPROVING RELATIONS AND MAKING THE NEIGHBORS WELCOME IT.

IF, OH, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A PARK, UH, OR WE'RE GOING TO HELP FACILITATE A CONTRACT WITH A Y W C A OR Y M C A OR, OR ANY KIND OF ENTITY, CERTAINLY WOULD HELP.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, GOES TOWARDS A LOT OF GOODWILL.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDE WHERE WE'VE HAD THAT SITUATION AND THAT HAS MADE PEOPLE HAPPIER.

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UM, AND THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY TO THE RESIDENTS IS, UH, YOU HAVE HAD A CHANGE OF COUNCIL PEOPLE, UM, BUT THEY'RE ALSO THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO WORK TOWARDS TO BRING THOSE AMENITIES TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

UM, WE NEED, UM, DEVELOPMENT, WE NEED, WE NEED HOUSING, WE NEED DENSE HOUSING.

IT, IT'S A GOOD, REASONABLY GOOD LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S ON THE MAIN ROAD AND IT'S SORT OF SEPARATE FROM WHERE THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IS.

UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS AND I'M GONNA RECOMMEND TO, UH, SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOUR COUNCIL PERSON, UM, AS WELL AS YOUR SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE TO REALLY ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AS WELL AS HOPEFULLY THE DEVELOPER WILL WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.

NO COMMENT.

THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE, UM, WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE MY, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER STATED THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY AMENITY ISSUES THAT THE, UH, COMMUNITY SPOKE ABOUT, THEY NEED TO WORK WITH THEIR COUNCIL PEOPLE AND THE SCHOOL ISSUES THAT THEY NEED TO SPEAK WITH THEIR, UH, THE APPROPRIATE SCHOOL BOARD.

THAT'S CORRECT.

FOR THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES.

UM, AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED DURING A BUDGET PROCESS.

SO YES, WORKING WITH THEIR COUNCIL OFFICE, UM, THE STATE DOES REQUIRE US TO SEND NOTICE FOR REZONINGS TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS SO THAT WAY THEY CAN PLAN APPROPRIATELY FOR THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT THEY EXPECT BY THE TIME THAT THE HOUSING, UM, IS COMPLETED.

SO THEY WOULD BE AWARE OF IT, BUT IT IS GOOD TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TOO.

YEAH.

AND I BELIEVE CURRENTLY THIS AREA IS, IS NOT DEVELOPED.

IT'S JUST CORRECT.

IT'S A VACANCY.

IT'S ALL VACANT.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND NO VACANT LAWNS CAN CAUSE ISSUES.

UM, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE MAYBE SOME TYPES OF, UH, COMMUNITY AMENITIES THAT THEY MAY, THE COMMUNITY MAY HAVE ACCESS TO.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THOSE WERE THE MAIN CONCERNS, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

THERE BEING, UM, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS CASE? ITEM THERE BEING NONE THEN UM, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

UM, I MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER RORO EGREE AND A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PECK.

CAN STAFF DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER ROHR EGRIN? YES.

COMMISSIONER RAMOS? YES.

COMMISSIONER ICK? YES.

COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA.

SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMUNITY ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED, SO YES.

MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE THAT IS THE LAST OF THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEM, MAGENTAS, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

NEXT WE HAVE, UM, APPROVAL OF THE

[23. 19-6569 Consideration and Action on the Munutes from August 28, 2019.]

MEETING MINUTES.

SO MOVE APPROVAL.

HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER RAMOS SECOND, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER RON GREASY.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MEETING MINUTES ARE DONE.

UH, DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT OR ANY OTHER STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS OR NOTHING TODAY? STAFF ITEMS WE HAVE.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF? THERE BEING NONE.

I JUST SAY I'M REALLY GLAD WE PASSED THE, UH, CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY.

WE'RE JOINING I THINK 400 CITIES AND A HUNDRED SOMETHING 185 NATIONS I THINK IT IS.

AND THERE'S ACTUALLY PROVISIONS IN THE CHARTER TO ADDRESS EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, THERE BEING NONE, IT IS 3 29 AND ALL OF OUR AGENDA'S DONE.

SO MEETING ADJOURNED.