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COMM, EG.

COMMISSIONER CARILLO.

CARILLO.

RAMO RAMOS.

AKIM MARTINEZ.

PKI.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

OKAY.

NUMBER 18.

OKAY.

RAMOS WHEN I STARTED.

OKAY.

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COMMISSIONER RAMOS.

SAME.

COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER.

ICK.

YES.

SAME.

COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.

YES.

SAME.

COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER PECK.

AYE.

SAME CHAIRMAN GARCIA DIRECTOR, UH, PRESIDENT GARCIA MARTINEZ FEL IN SAN ANTONIO SOUTHEAST SERVICE CENTER, MILITARY SERVICE CENTER.

MANAGE THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING SERVICES.

NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BOND PROGRAM IS ON PROGRAM.

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AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESOLUTION TOMORROW.

OKAY.

MARTINEZ RAM MARTINEZ.

WHEN I STARTED THIS CO PLANNER SERVICES.

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GOOD AFTERNOON, DIRECTOR.

THANK COMMISSIONER.

THANK SO MUCH.

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OKAY.

IS ON

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IN PARTICULAR

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IS GILBERT GONZALEZ.

GONZALEZ.

OKAY.

AND HOW CROWN.

THANK YOU.

AND LAST PERSON, ALEJANDRO GON, MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO EZ.

ALEJANDRO GONZ.

YES.

SO

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A YEAR LATER.

AND WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF NOISE POLLUTION BECAUSE OF THE DEPARTMENTS LIGHT POLLUTION.

WHY HAS THERE NOT BEEN PUBLIC, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT THE BALLOON TEST? YOU KNOW, I WAS A NEONATOLOGIST FOR 35 YEARS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I KNOW ABOUT BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR CHILDREN AND I FEEL THAT YOU ARE OUR ADVOCATES AS WELL.

FOR THE LITTLE GUY, THIS WHOLE SITUATION OF COMING TO YOU AND TALKING TO YOU IS INCREDIBLY OVERWHELMING AND VERY DAUNTING TO US INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS.

AND I, AND I REALLY BEG YOU TO BE OUR ADVOCATE FOR THIS KIND OF SITUATION.

WE ARE DEFINITELY, UH, AGAINST THIS PROJECT GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, SO WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 15.

NOW WE HAVE A OP OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AND GIVE A REBUTTAL.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR.

COMMISSIONERS.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS ROB KILLEN, 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET.

APPRECIATE ALL THE FOLKS WHO CAME OUT, UH, TO SPEAK AND HEARD THEIR CONCERNS.

YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC AGAIN, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTS A REDUCED TRAFFIC IMPACT OVER SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

UH, HEARD THE QUESTION.

THE CONCERN ABOUT THE HEIGHT, UH, AS CURRENTLY ZONED THE R SIX ZONING ALLOWS FOR A, UH, HOUSE TO BE BUILT 35 FEET HEIGHT.

SO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN R SIX CURRENT ZONING IS 35 FEET.

AND THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS, THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE BUILT THERE.

SO YOU WOULD BE LOOKING UP AT A HOUSE OR YOU WOULD BE LOOKING UP AT AN APARTMENT.

THERE WAS NOT A BALLOON TEST LAST FRIDAY.

THERE WAS A DRONE TEST, BUT SAME IDEA, RIGHT? PUT THE DRONE UP THERE AND MEASURE THE ALTITUDE.

IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER WITH A DRONE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE ACTUAL EXACT HEIGHT.

AND THAT WAS, UH, CONDUCTED WITH SOME FOLKS ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THE RESULTS TO THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MOVING FORWARD BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL.

UH, CONCERN ABOUT CRIME, UH, THERE ARE NO EVIDENCE, NO STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT MULTIFAMILY USE RINGS INCREASED CRIME.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE KIND OF, UH, COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS THAT PEOPLE LIVE IN.

APARTMENTS TEND TO BE MORE LIKELY TO ENGAGE IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES.

THIS IS MARKET RATE APARTMENTS.

UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE EXPENSIVE APARTMENTS.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY'RE GONNA BE A BUNCH OF CRIMINALS MOVING IN.

AND THEN FINALLY, UH, COMMON ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT ZONING COMMISSION.

IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS WHO SAID IT'S NOT GOING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR, UH, PROPERTY VALUES.

IT WAS A GREAT STUDY FROM 2007, UH, FROM HARVARD UNIVERSITY THAT LOOKED AT MULTIFAMILY AND LOOKED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND COMPILED SEVERAL OTHER STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON A LOCAL LEVEL THAT TALKED ABOUT IMPACT OF PROPERTY VALUES FROM MULTIFAMILY.

IT SHOWED THAT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE THAT DECREASED PROPERTY VALUES AND IN SOME CASES MULTIFAMILY BY STABILIZING THE MARKET AROUND THERE AND TAKING UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY AND DEVELOPING IT ACTUALLY INCREASED PROPERTY VALUE.

SO AGAIN, APPRECIATE UH, THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

UH, BUT UH, WE THINK THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE.

AND FOR PURPOSES OF THE THE SECTOR PLAN AMENDMENT, WE THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN.

WE THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.

AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM, UH, CITIZENS TO BE HEARD AND THE APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL.

SO NOW WE GO TO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.

WE'LL START ON THE LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER ROGER MARTINEZ.

NOW NO INPUT.

I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

, GO AHEAD.

UM, FIRST I WANNA THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR BEING HERE.

I KNOW HOW CHALLENGING IT IS.

JUST A WEEK OR TWO AGO I WAS ON YOUR SIDE.

UH, I WAS, I MEAN PHYSICALLY ON YOUR SIDE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION AND I, AND IT MADE PUT MY STOMACH IN KNOTS AND SO, UM, I KNOW HOW CHALLENGING IT IS.

UM, AND SO I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE.

UM, I APPRECIATE THAT.

MY QUESTIONS ARE MOSTLY FOR THE, UM, DEVELOPER.

UM, YOU STATED SOME DATA THAT THE MULTI-FAMILY TRAFFIC IS ABOUT ALMOST HALF OF THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR THAT? UH, IT, IT MANUAL WHERE STANDARD

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ENGINEERING MANUAL CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ACKNOWLEDGED.

OKAY.

TECHNOLOGY.

SO, SO I CAN FIND THAT IN WRITING SOMEWHERE.

I JUST WANNA LOOK IT UP.

I CAN GET IT LATER, BUT YOU DO HAVE, UM, OKAY, I'LL, I'LL GET THAT.

U D C.

OKAY.

MY NEXT QUESTION RELATES TO THAT.

SO TYPICALLY IN A MULTIFAMILY, UM, DWELLING, UH, THOSE TEND TO BE IN THE CITIES, UM, WHERE THERE'S ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

HOW CLOSE IS THIS DEVELOPMENT TO A REGIONAL CENTER OR A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION? UH, WE ARE, UH, NEARBY OTHER MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN A SIMILAR SITUATION AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY A MILE TO I 10 MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.

UH, BUT TO, UH, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

SO THE IDEA IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LESS TRAFFIC, BE LESS PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR CARS.

UM, WHERE ARE THEY, HOW FAR IS IT FOR THEM TO GET TO THE BUS STOP, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE REGIONAL CENTERS? I'M GONNA LET ROB FEEL THAT ONE.

IT IS NOT, THIS IS A, BY THE WAY, I, I LIVE OUT HERE.

I LIVE JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF I 10.

I LIVE OUT IN THE LEON SPRINGS AREA, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

IT'S HARD TO, HARD TO CATCH A BUS OUT IN THIS AREA.

NO, ACTUALLY THE, THE TRAFFIC NUMBERS FROM THE IT MANUAL ARE NOT BASED ON THE IDEA THAT FEWER PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR CARS.

IT'S THE IDEA JUST HAVE FEWER PEOPLE WITH CARS PER UNIT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, A HOUSE IS GONNA HAVE TWO OR THREE CARS.

YOU HAVE A TEENAGE KID, YOUR WIFE, HUSBAND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TWO OR THREE CARS.

WHEREAS AN APARTMENT'S USUALLY ONE, ONE AND A HALF CARS IS WHAT IT AVERAGES OUT TO.

SO IT'S NOT BASED ON THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

BUT YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I LIVE OUT HERE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BUS ROUTES OUT THERE AND THEY GO UP AND DOWN BABCOCK AS WELL, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY, UH, CENTERS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S BASED ON JUST FEWER PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVING IN THE MULTI-FAMILY PER UNITS PER RATHER THAN ACTUAL.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHY 200 HOUSES IS MORE CARS THAN 300 APARTMENTS.

YEAH.

SO THERE'S BASICALLY NO PUBLIC TR NO, WELL THERE'S SOME PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BUT IT'S NOT A REASONABLE SOURCE OF TRANSPORT IN THE AREA.

I PUT A PLUGIN FOR VIA, THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT EXPANDING ROUTES.

THEY'RE DOING DATA ANALYTICS ALL THE TIME, LOOKING AT, UH, THE NUMBER OF RIDERS, WHERE THEY'RE GOING, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.

SO, UH, SO VIA DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB.

UH, THEY'RE JUST, AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE KINDS OF CENTERS THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY HAVE IN A MORE URBAN AREA.

RIGHT.

NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, UH, THE REGIONAL CENTER IS HOW FAR FROM THERE? I KNOW THERE'S ONE OUT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF LARA, IS THAT RIGHT OR IS IT PRETTY FAR AWAY STILL? YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

SORRY, SORRY.

I'M AFRAID NOT OFF TO DEFER STAFF OR SOMEONE ELSE HAS THE ANSWER TO THAT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT ACCESS.

CAN YOU CLARIFY, UM, RIGHT NOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXITS TO LUKI BOULEVARD AND THEN THEY CAN GO EITHER WAY ON THAT TO GET TO BABCOCK OR, OR HEAD SOUTH.

UH, THE APARTMENTS, ARE THEY COMPLETELY SEPARATED SO THAT THEY COULDN'T GO FROM THE APARTMENTS TO LUKI BOULEVARD THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? ARE THEY, ARE THEY FORCED TO ONLY GO TO BABCOCK ROAD? SO ALL THAT TRAFFIC IS DIVERTED TO BABCOCK ROAD.

THE IDEA IS THAT ALL THE TRAFFIC WOULD GO TO BABCOCK ROAD.

WE WOULD HAVE A GATED ACCESS NOX BOX ONLY AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTION POINT THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.

AND THEN THERE, THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO EXISTING STUB OUTS INTO THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD STU OUTS OF STREETS.

AND THAT IS FOR PHASE WAS INTENDED FOR PHASE TWO IN THE FUTURE, UM, WE ARE GONNA MAKE ONE OF THOSE A CUL-DE-SAC WITH LOTS AS A BUFFER TO THE HIGHER LOTS.

AND THEN THE SECOND WOULD WOULD ACT ONLY AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS AND IT WOULD BE GATED LANDSCAPED AND ACCESS ONLY BY EMERGENCY PERSONNEL.

NO CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES EVER.

NO CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC EVER.

NO RESIDENCE EVER.

WHEREAS CURRENTLY EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH THERE WITH CURRENT ZONING.

SO ALL RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENTS.

AND IT LOOKED LIKE A FAIRLY LONG ROAD.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL FROM THE APARTMENTS TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND TO BABCOCK TO GET TO A STREET THAT THEY COULD EXIT.

IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A SHORTER DISTANCE FOR ROUTE THAN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S WITHIN A COUPLE OF MILES OF THE U T SS A REGIONAL CENTER AREA.

THANK YOU.

ANOTHER QUESTION, UH, EROSION WAS MENTIONED AS A POSSIBILITY.

I ASSUME EROSION STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE.

UH, ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, THE PURPOSE OF THE BUFFER IS TO, IS TO MINIMIZE THAT AS WELL.

THIS IS ON THE HILLTOP.

THE IDEA WITH MOST OF THIS PROJECT, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS THIS AREA WAS ALREADY GRADED, UH, BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER YEARS AND YEARS AGO AND LEFT IN AN EROSIVE SITUATION.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING ON THE HILLTOP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

WE'D PREFER TO BE EVEN FURTHER UP THE HILLTOP, BUT AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, THEY HAD ASKED FOR A BUFFER.

SO WE SHIFTED EVERYTHING A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE HILL.

BUT NOW IT IS ALL STILL ON A, ON A HILLTOP OR A RIDGE LINE AND THERE'S GREEN SPACE IN BETWEEN ANY CREEKS AND SO FORTH FROM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

WHEREAS, UH, RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE MUCH CLOSER TO THOSE CREEKS AS A MATTER OF FACT.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S NOT, STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE WITH EROSION AS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

JUST TO CLARIFY.

THE, THE AND THE ENGINEERING DESIGN WILL ALSO HANDLE THAT TO, TO MINIMIZE EROSION OF ANY SORT.

MY LAST QUESTION, AND CITY CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THIS BETTER, UM, BABCOCK AND LUKI ROAD, UM, THE RESIDENT HAD MENTIONED WHERE

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HE WANTED TO GO WAS ONLY A MILE AND A HALF AND IT TOOK 30 MINUTES.

UM, WHAT'S THE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO WALK THROUGH ANY OF THIS AREA? THERE'S SIDEWALKS.

IS IT SAFE TO WALK A MILE'S? NOT VERY FAR.

WE WALK A MILE PRETTY COMMONLY DOWNTOWN.

UM, I KNOW PEOPLE TEND TO NOT, BUT THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC CONCERNS IF THERE WERE SIDEWALKS.

SO ARE THERE ANY, IS IT WALK, IS IT A WALKABLE AREA AT ALL? WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF IT IS ON A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM ON OUR FUTURE BOND PROGRAM.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANKS.

MY QUESTION IS OF THE DEVELOPER? YES MA'AM.

WHO SPOKE IN OPPOSITION.

UH, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS LAND WHERE THE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE WAS GOING TO BE OPEN SPACE.

THAT WAS NEVER THE CASE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY WERE TOLD BY OTHER FOLKS.

I'M NOT PRIVY TO THAT INFORMATION.

BUT A MASTER PLAN HAS ALWAYS SHOWN THIS AS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY FOR THIS HAPPEN WITH THE PROJECT SYSTEM IN ONE O.

UM, CRIMINAL, JUST SO YOU KNOW,

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ORIGINAL OF CROWN, H O A O, HEIGHTS OF CROWN EXPLICIT, UH, DAVID RESTRICTION CONSERV HAD SOMEWHERE AROUND THREE 50.

WE REDUCED IT TO 3 25 AND THEN, UH, AT REQUEST OF, UH, PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, WE REDUCED IT FURTHER TO 300 HAVING DELETED A BUILDING.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE STAND CURRENTLY.

WHILE AND WHILE I'M UP HERE, IF THAT'S OKAY, UH, I'LL MENTION BACK TO CROWN RIDGE.

THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD IS HERE AND IS AS WE'VE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ACCEPTING THE CONSERVATION SCENE AND THEY WOULD PREFER IT THAT WAY AND THEY DO IF THIS GOES FORWARD.

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UH, MAESTRO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

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OKAY.

OKAY.

WAS COMMENTS ABOUT CRIME? SI COMMISSIONER? NO.

NO.

RAMOS COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.

MARTINEZ.

SI.

YES.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA E GARCIA? HEARD JOE? NO.

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OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

JAMES DU PARK, UM, AREA IN

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AND I THOSE, UH, UM, IN PARTICULAR SLOAN.

NOTICE WHEN I START THIS

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AND I OWN, I OWN

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RE AND I CONSTRUCTION RESIDE.

THAT'S ALL FOR YOU.

I HAVE A COMMENT FROM THE,

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AND LOWER, SO MARTINEZ COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER PEC? YES.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA.