[00:00:07] YAY. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, WE CAN GET STARTED. IT'S DECEMBER 13, 2024, AND WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE MEETING AT 10:08 WITH A ROLL CALL. [Approval of Minutes  ] QUORUM. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND COUNCILWOMAN IS ON HER WAY. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 6. YOU'LL REVIEW. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. [Public Comment  ] A MOTION TO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. MOTION PASSES. WE HAVE SAN ANTONIO .>> THE SAN ANTONIO ASSOCIATION IS A NONPROFIT THAT REPRESENTS AND SERVES THE MULTIFAMILY AND RENTAL INDUSTRY. WE PROMOTE PROFESSIONALISM THROUGH EDUCATION. FOSTER COMMUNICATION AMONG OUR MEMBERS AND SUPPORT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. LAST YEAR, THE DISTRICT 2 CITY COUNCIL OFFICE REACHED OUT TO SAAA FOR AN INITIATIVE AIMED AT FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS RENTING HOMES OR PARTICIPANT APARTMENTS AND INTERESTED IN FOSTERING DOG OR CAT. WE WERE EXCITED TO BE INVOLVED AND OFFER OUR INSIGHTS ON THIS IMPORTANT PROPOSAL, WE UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS FACING SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES, INCLUDING THE CRISIS OF STRAY AND ROAMING ANIMALS. HIGH SHELTER RATES, AND THE INCREASING COST OF LIVING. OUR MEMBERS RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO SUPPORT MEMBERS WHO WANT TO FOSTER OR ADOPT A DOG AS THEY STRIVE TO PURSUE LIVES WITH A FOUR LEGGED FAMILY MEMBER. WISH TO FOSTER OR OWN A PET WHILE REMAINING COMPLIANT WITH RENTAL PROPERTY REGULATIONS. UNFORTUNATELY, RENTERS BRING PETS INTO THEIR HOME WITHOUT PERMISSION RISKING -- THIS COULD OFFER ASSISTANCE ALLOWING RESIDENTS TO CONTINUE LIVING IN HOMES WITH PET COMPANIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING [Briefing and Possible Action on  ] TOGETHER ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU MR. BALDWIN, WE'LL HEAR ITEM 2. WHICH IS BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO THE FIRE PREAD RESISTANCE. >> GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS VANESSA, I'M AN ADMINISTRATOR WITH NASD, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ANIMAL CARE SERVICES. I HAVE ASSISTANCE DIRECTOR SHANNON WITH ME. ITEM 2 IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CCR BY COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ REQUESTING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PET DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. AS BACKGROUND FOR THIS BRIEFING. THE PET DEPOSIT ASSISTANT PROGRAM CCR WAS AUTHORED BY COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ ON THE 16TH. THE CCR PROPOSED ESTABLISHMENT OF PET DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE ASSOCIATION AIMED AT REDUCING PET DEPOSIT ADOPTION FOR RENTERS. ON APRIL 17. IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE AND ASSIGNED TO THE PCDC. ON AUGUST, THE CCR WAS PRESENTED TO PCDC, ASKED FOR A TWO MONTH FOLLOW UP IN SUPPORT OF A POTENTIAL PILOT PROGRAM. THE OVERVIEW AND GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS REDUCE THE COST BURDEN OF PET ADOPTION AND FOSTERING FOR RENTERS. THE PROGRAM WOULD BE -- THE PROGRAM WOULD BE FOR INCOME ELIGIBLE RESIDENTS LIVING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS LOOKING TO ADOPT OR FOSTER A CAT OR DOG. NASD WILL PARTNER WITH NHS AND PARTNER WITH THE SAN ANTONIO PARTNER ASSOCIATION TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER HOUSING PROVIDERS, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SAN ANTONIO DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATION THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR US TODAY AND SUPPORTING THIS ITEM. SO WHAT WE HEARD, NHSD, WE WERE TASKED WITH SUBMITTING INPUT AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ALL ABOUT DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. &-@T NHSD COLLABORATED WITH THE SAN ANTONIO DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATION TO COMPILE PROPERTY INPUT REGARDING PET DEPOSIT COSTS AND HOW OFTEN FEES WERE COLLECTED. OF THE HOUSING PROVIDERS THAT WE DID RECEIVE INPUT FROM, 76% ENFORCE BREED AND WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. [00:05:05] 70% CHARGE ONE TIME PET DEPOSIT FEES, AND $300 WAS AVERAGE PET DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE. THE KEY TAKEAWAY WAS THE MAJORITY OF HOUSING PROVIDERS DID INDEED SHARE THEY WERE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN A PET DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. IN ADDITION TO THE HOUSING PROVIDER INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED, ACS HAS CONFIRMED THAT RENTERS ARE INTERESTED AND DO GO TO ACS WANTING TO ADOPT OR FOSTER AND SHARE THAT THEY HAVE SOME CHALLENGES TO FOSTERING OR ADOPTING FROM ACS DUE TO THE PET DEPOSIT FEES. WE ALSO PROVIDED -- WE ALSO SUBMITTED A RENTAL -- RENTER SURVEY AND FOUND THAT MANY ARE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING OR FOSTERING, ABOUT 72% HAVE PETS CURRENTLY, AND THEN 48% EXPERIENCED A BARRIER TO ADOPTION OR FOSTERING OF WHICH PET DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE IS NOTED AS ONE OF THEM. NHSD IS RECOMMENDING A ONE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM TO HOUSEHOLDS ADOPTING OR FOSTERING CAT OR DOG THROUGH ACS. THE BUDGET FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM WOULD BE $50,000 FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO PROVIDE AT LEAST 100 GRANTS FOR PET DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE. AFTER THE ONE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM, WE CAN REEVALUATE AND LOOK INTO EXPANDING BEYOND ACS. REGARDING ELIGIBILITY. RESIDENTS WHO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS APPLYING TO FOSTER A CAT OR DOG SEEKING PET DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE WHO SCORE A 6 OR HIGHER ON EQUITY LIST WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR PET DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE. THE ASSISTANCE MUST NOT EXCEED $500 WITH A MAXIMUM OF $1,000 FOR ALL PETS. THE REVIEW PROCESS INCLUDES ACS SHELTER STAFF CONFIRMING RESIDENTS MEET ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS BEFORE MAKING THE REFERRAL TO NHSD, AND NHSD WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE PROCESSING OF PAYMENTS MADE DIRECTLY TO THE HOUSING PROVIDERS. STAFF RECOMMENDS PCDC FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM FOR CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION OF A ONE YEAR PET DEPOSIT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTERED JOINTLY BY ACS AND NHSD, AND THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION, WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> ROCHA GARCIA: GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND NHSD AS WELL FOR DOING SOME OF THE DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS ITEM AFTER WE ASKED FOR INITIAL FEEDBACK. I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE, AGAIN, COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS HERE FROM HIS STAFF BUT I WANTED TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY OR MAYBE IF THEY COME IN A LITTLE BIT. BUT I FEEL LIKE IN SUPPORT, PETS ARE FAMILY DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC, WE SAW THAT SOCIAL ISOLATION WAS REAL FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND HOW PETS REALLY BECAME CRITICAL TO COMPANIONSHIP, AND SO THEY ALL SOUNDED LIKE MANY HOME PROVIDERS WERE INTERESTED IN THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM, WHICH TO ME, SOUNDED PROMISING, AND THE FACT THAT MOST PET DEPOSITS ARE NONREFUNDABLE WAS A PARTICULAR TO CONCERN, ESPECIALLY WHEN FAMILIES ARE MOVING AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE MOVING BY NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN; RIGHT? BECAUSE THEIR CHANGES IN JOBS AND EXPERIENCING DIFFERENT INCOME SETBACKS, ET CETERA. SO ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE OFF TO A GOOD START IN UTILIZING SPECIALLY ACS AND SEEING HOW WE CAN INCENTIVIZE ADOPTION FROM PARTICULAR FROM ACS, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY OR OFFER ABOUT THIS. AND I'LL START OFF WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE. SO COUNCILMAN, IT'S ALL YOURS. >> COURAGE: THANK YOU, CHAIR. PERSONALLY, I THINK THIS IS A MISAPPLICATION OF CITY FUNDS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $50,000 TO MAYBE HELP 100 FAMILIES HAVE A PET MOVE INTO AN APARTMENT WITH THEM. I THINK THAT WE HAVE A MUCH GREATER NEED FOR A LOT OF OTHER SERVICES TO PEOPLE THAN PAYING A PET DEPOSIT. I THINK THAT $50,000 COULD GO INTO HELPING PEOPLE JUST PAY A RENT SO THEY COULD STAY IN A HOME THEMSELVES. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT NEEDS, AND PAYING A PET DEPOSIT FOR SOMEBODY TO PUT A PET IN AN APARTMENT I DON'T THINK IS ONE OF THEM. I'D RATHER SEE $50,000 MORE GO INTO ACS. WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY 100 ANIMALS. WE'VE GOT A HUGE ANIMAL PRACTICAL. THIS IS NOT GOING TO RESOLVE ANYTHING. IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR 100 FAMILIES TO SAY WE CAN BRING OUR DOG OR CAT [00:10:04] INTO OUR APARTMENT, BUT I THINK THERE'S A GREATER NEED FOR THIS FUNDING IN MANY OTHER AREAS BESIDES THIS ONE. SO I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF IT. THANK YOU. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN PELAEZ. >> PELAEZ: SO FOR EVERYTHING I SAW IN THE PRESENTATION, IT'S GOOD, BUT THERE'S ONE MISSING PIECE, AND IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT, AND THAT IS, HAVE WE HEARD FROM ANY PEOPLE SAYING I DIDN'T ADOPT THE DOG BECAUSE THERE WAS A PET DEPOSIT. IN OTHER WORDS, ARE WE SOLVING A PROBLEM THAT WE THINK EXISTS OR THAT ACTUALLY EXISTS. >> SO ACS HAS SHARED THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE TO TURN IN ANIMALS HAVE ALSO ENCOUNTERED THE INABILITY WHEN THEY'RE MOVING FROM POINT A TO POINT B TO PAY FOR THEIR PET DEPOSIT, SO I'M NOT SURE SHANNON CAN SPEAK TO THAT AS ONE. >> YEAH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO SEE, WE SEE PEOPLE WANTING TO OR NEEDING TO SURRENDER THEIR PET BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IF THEY'RE MOVING HOMES THE NEW DEPOSIT. SO THEY'VE ADOPTED THE PET BUT THEY'RE ASKING ACS TO TAKE THE PET BACK BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE DEPOSIT. SO PREVENTING OWNER SURRENDER, SO PREVENTING ANIMALS FROM COMING BACK TO THE SHELTER AFTER THEY'VE LEFT. SO IF WE CAN CONNECT THOSE TWO THINGS AND PROVIDE THEM EDUCATION AND RESOURCES, MAKING SURE THEIR PETS ARE AWARE OF ALL OF OUR FREE VAX INFLATION SERVICES, SPAY OR NEUTER, WE COULD USED THAT. >> PELAEZ: LET ME ASK YOU THIS WAY. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SEEN THAT HAPPEN? HUNDREDS OF TIMES? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC NUMBER. WE DO SEE OWNER SURRENDERS ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND WE TRY TO CONNECT THEM TO RESOURCES. BUT WE SEE HUNDREDS OF OWNER SURRENDERS A YEAR. WE'VE GOT A SEARCH MONTH WAIT JUST TO PROCESS THAT. >> PELAEZ: I GET THAT. WE SEE HUNDREDS OF YEAR. WITHIN THAT JUNEERS IS OF HUNDREDS. COULD YOU TELL ME HOW MANY COULD BENEFIT FROM A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. >> I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER TODAY. BUT I COULD LOOK AND SEE. >> PELAEZ: YEAH. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE SAYING YES UNLESS WE'RE SOLVING A PROBLEM, AND I HAVE A -- I THINK IT'S COMING FROM THE RIGHT PLACE, THE INTENT ON THE CCR, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING THE NEEDLE, AND I'M WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE ON THIS ONE, $50,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY, ON A $4 MILLION BUDGET, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH, BUT I'D RATHER PUT THAT MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE. THANK YOU. >> AND, COUNCILMAN, I WANTED TO ADD THAT THAT IS A CHALLENGE FOR US TO UNDERSTAND, IF THAT IS A REAL EXCUSE FOR SOMEONE NOT TO ADOPT A PET, AND SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, LOOKING AT THIS KIND OF AS A PILOT SO WE CAN GATHER THAT INFORMATION, BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND SO WE'LL GATHERING THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE RETURNING A PET BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. BUT REALLY, IT'S CHALLENGING FOR US TO DETERMINE IF THAT EXCUSE IS A REAL EXCUSE, AND IF IT REALLY WILL INCREASE PET ADOPTIONS, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING AS A PILOT AS WELL. >> PELAEZ: I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I THINK THIS IS PART OF A LARGER CONVERSATION, IS THE IMPEDIMENTS TO ADOPTING JUST THE DEPOSIT, THE $300 ON AN APARTMENT OR THE IMPEDIMENTS TO ADOPTING OR KEEPING A DOG, THE FACT THAT DOGS COST MONEY EVERY MONTH; RIGHT? AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY VULNERABLE PEOPLE; RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, IF THE BIGGEST PROBLEM YOU'VE GOT TO KEEPING THE DOG IS THE DEPOSIT, YOU'VE GOT MUCH BIGGER PROBLEMS. AND I KNOW THE AUTHOR OF THE CCR JUMPED DOWN TERRY CASTILLO'S THROAT FOR SUGGESTING THIS POPULATION'S PROPS ARE BIGGER THAN THE DEPOSIT, BUT IT'S AN HONEST QUESTION, AND IT'S A QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED TO THE MOST VULNERABLE FOLKS -- FINANCIALLY VULNERABLE FOLKS IN SAN ANTONIO, IS THIS SOLVING A PROBLEM FOR THEM, OR IS THIS A COSMETIC FEEL GOOD, AND I FEEL LIKE THE CCR, WHILE COMING FROM THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE END OF THE DAY WILL MOUNT TO NOT MUCH AND I'D RATHER LEVERAGE THE MONEY IN OTHER WAYS. >> AND CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT DATA OR BREAK IT DOWN, WHEN THEY RETURN THE PET, IS IT REALLY BECAUSE THE PET DEPOSIT OR BECAUSE THE APARTMENT ISN'T ALLOWING THE BREED, SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. >> CASTILLO: I DID WANT TO SHARE, COUNCILMAN, ALSO THAT WE DID PULL A COUPLE OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE RENTERS THAT [00:15:01] SOUGHT RELOCATION ASSISTANCE. 77% SAID THEY WOULD ADOPT IF THEY HAD HELP. AND THEN 48%, JUST LIKE I MENTIONED, THEY MENTIONED A PET DEPOSIT WAS A BARRIER, WE DID TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, I KNOW THE WELLNESS; RIGHT? RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP WAS DISCUSSED IN AUGUST, AND WE DID HAVE A QUESTION OF HOW CURRENT -- IF THEIR ANIMALS ARE CURRENT, AND 72% OF THOSE DO HAVE ANIMALS SAID THEY ARE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, THEIR SHOTS AND WELLNESS OF ANIMALS AS WELL. SO THE MAJORITY OF RELOCATION APPLICANTS ARE UNDER 30% AMI, SO THEY'RE VULNERABLE, BUT YOU SPOKE TO IT. THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR ANIMALS AND FAMILY MEMBERS. SO I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT AS WELL. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. COUNCILWOMAN CAST. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU. I WANT TO BE THANKFUL FOR THE SAN ANTONIO DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATION FOR EXPLORING A PROGRAM. I RECALL A CONVERSATION WITH SHANNON SIMMS ABOUT YEAR AGO, AND THEY WERE SEEING A LOT OF SURRENDERS BECAUSE OF EVICTIONS AND WHEN I LOOK AT $50,000, I SEE THAT GOING TOWARDS RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR RELOCATION TO ENSURE AN INDIVIDUAL IS HOUSED. AND THEN WHAT MY CONSTITUENTS PROPOSED. HOW DO WE ADOPT PETS AT 0 COST OR HOW DO WE HAVE MORE OF THE BLACK FRIDAY SALES WHERE IT'S $25 ADOPTIONS, AND WHEN I LOOK AT $50,000 AND POTENTIALLY ONLY 100 GRANTS, 100 ANIMALS WITH POTENTIAL FOR GRANTS, $25 ADOPTION DAYS YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE 2,000 PETS ADOPTED AND HOW DO WE FIND FOREVER HOMES FOR PETS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING ADOPTED TWO PETS WHILE A RENTER, RIGHT, THERE'S A ROBUST PROCESS THAT ACS HAS IN WHICH YOU HAVE TO INTRODUCE YOUR PETS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMPATIBLE AND YOU'RE NOT IN THE POSITION OF SURRENDERING YOUR PET, BUT I WANT TO ENSURE WE'RE HAVING A GREATER IMPACT, AND THE OPPORTUNITY OR THE RISK OF FOLKS CAN STILL RETURN THE PET GIVES ME CONCERN WHEN OUR GOAL SHOULD BE GETTING PETS TO FOREVER HOMES AND NOT IN A POSITION BACK AT ACS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO RELOCATE THE PET. SO I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY. I DO THINK THERE WOULD BE VALUE IN THAT $50,000 GOING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW DISCOUNTED ADOPTION DAYS WITH ACS AND/OR MARKETING, I THINK THAT SHOULD STAY WITH ACS BUT NOT THE PROGRAM THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY. THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU. LAURIE WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING. >> ALWAYS LAURIE FIRST. >> WHERE WE'RE TAKING THIS FUNDING IS FROM THE HOUSINGINGS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM SO IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. >> ROCHA GARCIA: COUNCILMAN PELAEZ. >> PELAEZ: YEAH. AND IF IT'S COMING FROM THE HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, ALL THE MORE REASON TO LEAVE IT THERE TO HOUSE PEOPLE. WHAT I WOULD BE OPEN TO AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED TO TAKING THIS UP IS THE DISABLED COMMUNITY WHO IS STUCK WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE CHARGES AFTER THEY LEAVE, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION EARLIER, YOU CAN'T CHARGE A PET DEPOSIT FOR DISABLED PEOPLE FOR THEIR ANIMALS, BUT HAVING TALKED TO SOME DISABLED MEMBERS, THEY ARE CHARGED WITH THE STAINED CARPET, THE EVIDENCE OF DOGS HAVING LIVED THERE; RIGHT? AND THAT'S HARD ALSO FOR FOLKS WITH NO JOBS WHO ARE JUST LIVING WITH DISABILITY, AND SO I WOULD INVITE THIS COMMITTEE AT SOME POINT TO DISCUSS THAT. I KNOW THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE. BUT ANYWAY, TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU. >> ROCHA GARCIA: WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN -- OH VERONICA, YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. GO AHEAD. >> IF THE FUNDING IS NOT APPROVED TODAY, IT WOULD STAY IN THE HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND THROUGH OUR RELOCATION PROGRAM WE CAN STILL COVER PET DEPOSITS FOR PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THE PROGRAM, IT'LL STILL BE A RESOURCE, WE WERE JUST ASKED TO EXPLORE HAVING THAT SAME BENEFIT AVAILABLE EVEN FOR PEOPLE NOT RELOCATING DUE TO FINANCIAL BURDEN, BUT IT WOULD BE THERE AND BE A RESOURCE FOR ANYBODY WHO DOES GO THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU, AND VERONICA, WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE I HAVE A QUESTION, I UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING A PET WITHOUT PAYING A DEPOSIT IS CAUSE FOR SOME EVICTIONS IS THAT TRUE. THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD BEFORE. AND CAN WE GET NUMBERS ON THAT. >> YES. SO WE HAVE HEARD THAT IF YOU -- IF YOU HAVE AN ANIMAL AND DO NOT COVER THE PET DEPOSIT, YES, YOU WOULD BE BREAKING THE LEASE, AND WE CAN SEE WHAT DATA WE HAVE ON HOW MANY TIMES THAT'S HAPPENED. >> ROCHA GARCIA: WONDERFUL, BUT TODAY I THINK THAT -- AND [00:20:01] CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE HAVE TO TAKE THE ITEM UP AND ESSENTIALLY VOTE IT UP AS DOWN AS PRESENTED. >> YES. >> ROCHA GARCIA: OKAY. WONDERFUL. COUNCILMAN, WERE YOU GOING TO ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION. >> PELAEZ: I HAD A SUGGESTION, IF THE SIG TORIES AT THE CCR FEEL STRONGLY, THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP THEM FOR USING THE FUNDS THAT EACH CITY COUNCIL HAS TO DONATE THAT FOR A SAN ANTONIO ASSOCIATION TO ADMINISTER THAT THEMSELVES. SO I THINK THERE'S NO IMPEDIMENTS TO THAT AND IT'S THE AUTHORS OF THE CCR TELLING -- YOU KNOW, BASICALLY DEMONSTRATING HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS FOR THEM BY USING THE MONEY ALLOTTED TO THEM. THANKS. >> ROCHA GARCIA: GREAT IDEA. THANKS, COUNCILMAN. ALL RIGHT. WONDERFUL. THEN WE WILL TAKE THE VOTE RIGHT NOW. ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ONE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM, PLEASE SAY AYE. OH, SORRY. SORRY. I SKIPPED AHEAD. THERE'S NO MOTION. SO THAT'S RIGHT. SO IT'S . >> SO SHOULD THE MOTION BE TO APPROVE -- TO VOTE ON THE ITEM. >> ROCHA GARCIA: MOTION TO APPROVE BUT THEN YOU CAN DENY OR YOU CAN -- OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE NEED A MOTION ON THE TABLE. I APOLOGIZE, SO CAN WE TAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER FOR THE VOTE; RIGHT; IS THAT CORRECT? >> ALLMOTION TO DENY. COUNCILMAN PELAEZ. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO DENY. ALL RIGHT. A MOTION TO DENY AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. NO ABSTENTIONS. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 3 IS BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE RECOMMENDED UPDATE TO CHAPTER 10 BUILDING RELATED CODES AND CHAPTER 11, FIRE PREVENTION BY ADOPTING THE 2024 EDITIONS OF THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL, ICC BUILDING RELATED AND FIRE CODES WITH LOCAL AMENDMENTS. AND SO WE ARE READY. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND IT'S ALL YOURS, THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. I'M CRYSTALLOGRAPHY GONZALEZ WITH DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES. ASSISTANCE DIRECTOR. I'M HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO 2024ICC CODES AS WELL AS PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 10, BUILDING RELATED CODES, AND CHAPTER 11, FIRE PREVENTION. SO AS ANGORA VIEW. THE INTERNATION CODE COUNCIL, ICC ACCOMPLISHES THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES EVERY 3 YEARS, THESE CODES ARE UTILIZED FOR NEW AND EXISTING CONSTRUCTION, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT 9 OF THOSE CODES TODAY, AS A CITY WE WANT TO ADOPT THE LATEST AND GREATEST CODES TO ENSURE CONSTRUCTION FOLLOWS THE LATEST SAFETY STANDARDS, METHODS, AND OFFER NEW OPTIONS AND INNOVATIVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMPLIANCE. SO WE WORKED WITH THE BUILDING RELATED FIRE CODES AND APPEALS AND ADVISORY BOARD, COMMONLY KNOWN AS CONSTRUCTION BOARD, REVIEWED THE UPDATE TO THE CODE. SO THIS BOARD HEARS DECISIONS OR DETERMINATIONS MADE BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL OR FIRE OFFICIAL AND SERVES AS CAPACITY ON MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ON CODES. THIS BOARD FORMED SUBCOMMITTEES TO REVIEW EACH OF THOSE CODES, INCLUDING THE 2023 NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE. THE ELECTRICAL CODE IS REVISED EVERY 3 YEARS AND PUBLISHED . SO WHEN WE SAY THOSE CODES, IT INCLUDES THE ELECTRICAL CODE IN THOSE GENERALIZATIONS. WHAT YOU DON'T SEE HERE IS THE 2024 ENERGY CODE. SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER WE WERE HERE JUST TWO YEARS AGO PRESENTING UPDATES FOR THE 2021 CODES, AND THIS CODE REVIEW PROCESS IS AN INTENSE DISCUSSION ON TECHNICAL ISSUES. THOSE MEETINGS ARE BEST HELD IN PERSON, AND COVID DELAYED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS, SO ULTIMATELY, THE ADOPTION OF THE '21 CODES WERE DELAYED BY ALMOST 2 YEARS, AND THIS YEAR, SIGNIFICANT DELAYS WITH ICC FINALIZING AND PUBLISHING THE ENERGY CODE. WHEN WE STARTED INTERNAL REVIEW OF THE CODES EARLIER THIS YEAR, IT STILL WASN'T PUBLISHED, SO IN ORDER TO GET BACK ON TRACK WITH TYPICAL ADOPTION TIMELINE, WE MADE THE DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADOPTION OF ALL THE OTHER CODES AND TO CONTINUE TO ENFORCE THE 2021 CODE. THE CONSTRUCTION BOARD IS MADE UP OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM THESE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, AND WE WORK WITH SAN ANTONIOS AND CPS AND BEAR COUNTY AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO DISCUSS CHANGES DURING THIS PROCESS. WE STARTED THE PROCESS IN [00:25:03] AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, 2 COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND I WAS GIVING THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS, THE TIMELINE, HOW TO SUBMIT PROPOSED CHANGES AND KEEP UP TO DATE ON THE PROGRESS OF THE ADOPTION. BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, WE HELD 14 SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS. THIS IS WHERE WE DOVE INTO THE TECHNICAL CHANGES WITH THE BOARD. WE WRAPPED THAT UP WITH TWO FULL BOARD MEETINGS AND THEN FINALIZED THE PROCESS WITH TWO ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO, AGAIN, LET THE PUBLIC KNOW OF WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THOSE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS AND WHAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD BE, AND HERE WE ARE WITH YOU HERE TODAY. AS WE GET INTO THE TECHNICAL CHANGES OF THE CODE, YOU'LL SEE THERE WEREN'T A WHOLE LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, NOTHING CONTROVERSIAL IN A MIX OF NEW REQUIREMENTS AND EVEN SOME RELAXED REQUIREMENTS. SO ONE COMMON THEME YOU'LL SEE IN THE '24 CODES IS THE ADDITION OF REQUIREMENTS FOR LITHIUM ION BATTERIES OR THOSE TESTING IN RESEARCH FACILITIES, MANUFACTURING FACILITIES, STORAGE AND REPAIR GARAGES THAT WORK ON VEHICLES WITH LITHIUM ION BATTERIES. IN ADDITION, THE FIRE CODE ADDED SPRINKLER AND ALARM REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE USES. A COUPLE OF REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE REMOVED FROM THE BUILDING CODE INCLUDES THE STANDPIPES INSTALLED AT STAGES AND LOW LEVEL EXIT SIGNS FOR HOTELS. THE STANDPIPES FOR ANTIQUATED REQUIREMENT AND ALL HOTELS ARE REQUIRED TO BE SPRINKLERED SO LOW LEVEL EXIT SIGNS WERE NOT BENEFICIAL. ONE AMENDMENT BEING PROPOSED WOULD ALLOW SHADE STRUCTURED TO BE BUILT 5 FEET OF A PROPERTY LINE. SO IVC, COMMERCIAL USES, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR BUSINESSES THAT HAVE PARKING NEAR PROPERTY LINE, THEY COULD ADD SHADE STRUCTURES THERE. THE '24 FIRE CODE ALSO MODIFIED REQUIREMENTS FOR SPRINKLERS MULTIFAMILY USES THAT ALLOWED THOSE USES -- THOSE APARTMENTS TO BE BUILT UP TO 45 FEET HIGH WHILE STILL UTILIZING 13R SPRINKLER SYSTEM. SO COMMERCIAL USES, YOU HAVE A FULL 13, SO THOSE WOULD ALLOW TO GO FROM 30 FEET HIGH TO 45 FEET HIGH. THE FIRE CODE ADDED ASSISTED LIVING USES TO THE LIST OF OCCUPANCIES THAT REQUIRE LOW LEVEL FREQUENCY AWILL REMEMBER AND CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTION HAS BEEN EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ALL BUILDINGS CONTAINING A CARBON MONOXIDE SOURCE. THE CODE NOW ALLOWS FOR RELAXED REQUIREMENTS AND RELAXED REQUIREMENTS FOR SLEEPING LOFTS. THE REQUIRED AMOUNT FOR VAPOR HAS BEEN REVISED. WHICH CHANGES THE THICKNESS REQUIREMENT FOR VAPOR RETARDANT. YOU SEE THE BLACK POLICE TICK LINING INSTALLED BETWEEN THE SUB GRADE AND FOUNDATION OF NEW HOMES AND THIS WILL RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT COST DECREASE. ADDITIONAL CHANGES ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THE RESIDENTIAL CODE THAT CLARIFIED A SECONDARY DRAIN LINE -- OR AN OVERFLOW DRAIN LINE SHALL DRAIN DIRECTLY TO A LOCATION NEAR AN EGRESS DOOR. WHICH WILL PROVIDE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE HOMEOWNER TO BE AWARE THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THE 2024 EXISTING BUILDING CODE SHOWED SOME INCREASED TRAVEL STANCES FOR REMODELED BUILDINGS AND ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCES FOR STAIRWAYS WHERE IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE REDUCTION IN THE PITCH OR SLOPE OF THE STAIR. IN THE 2023 ELECTRICAL CODE, THE GFCI RECEPTACLE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN EXPANDED. CURRENTLY GFCI RECEPTACLES ARE REQUIRED NEAR SINKS, BATHROOM, WET BAR, KITCHEN, THESE RECEPTACLES ARE NOW REQUIRED THROUGHOUT THE KITCHEN AND OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE'S FOOD PREP OR COOKING GOING ON. 10-AMP BRANCH CIRCUITS WERE ADDED AS AN OPTION FOR THE 2023. SENSORS, ISSUES WITH 15-AMP BRANCH CIRCUITS BEING OVERLOADED. THE BOARD IS PROPOSING TO STRIKE OUT THE OPTION TO USE 10-AMP BRANCH CIRCUITS. OVERLOADING OF THOSE CIRCUITS IS SIGNIFICANT FIRE HAZARD. REQUIREMENT TO INSTALL SURGE PROTECTION WAS ADDED TO THE 2020 ELECTRICAL CODE, AND IT'S ALREADY REQUIRED FOR SERVICES SUPPLYING RESIDENTIAL HOME, AND THAT'S BEING EXPANDED TO OTHER SLEEPING AREAS LIKE DORM UNITS, HOTEL GUEST ROOMS, AND SLEEPING AREAS IN NURSING HOMES. [00:30:01] A COUPLE OF CHANGES TOTEMIC CAL CODE INCLUDE UPDATES FOR DIMENSIONS OF PERMANENT LADDERS AND PLACEMENT OF ROOF HATCHES WHICH MIRROR ORDINARY CARE SHA REQUIREMENTS, AND THE MECHANICAL CODE ALSO ADDED AN OPTION FOR A LOCATION OF AIR EXHAUST VENTS. EXHAUST OUTLETS ARE NOW ABLE TO TERMINATE AS LITTLE AS ONE FEET FROM AN OPERABLE WINDOW OR DOOR. THIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR MULTIFAMILY BUILDING OR ANY OTHER USE THAT HAS THAT LIMITED EXTERIOR WALL SPACE. THE 2024 PLUMBING CODE ADDED A REQUIREMENT TO INSTALL TRACER WIRE ALONG NEWLY INSTALLED PLASTIC SUER PIPE. INDUSTRY EXPERTS ON THE BOARD DID NOT AGREE THAT THE BENEFITS OF THIS TRACER WIRE WOULD OUTWEIGH THE ADDITIONAL COST FOR ALL NEW RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION CAMERA AND LOCATOR TECHNOLOGIES ARE REALLY WHAT'S USED NOW TO IDENTIFY THE LOCATION OF EXISTING SUER PIPE. ANOTHER PROPOSAL OF THE PLUMBING CODE IS EXPAND THE EXCEPTION FOR DRINK FOUNTAINS TO INCLUDE ALL USES PROVIDING WATER FREE OF CHARGE. CURRENTLY RESTAURANTS, CLINICS, DAY CARES, THAT REQUIRE WATER FREE OF CHARGE AREN'T REQUIRED TO INSTALL A DRINKING FOUNTAIN, AND THIS EXPANDS THAT EXCEPTION TO ALL USES THAT EXPAND WATER FREE OF CHARGE. A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO THE 2024 SWIMMING POOL AND SPA CODE INCLUDE THE MODIFIED RANGE OF THE COLOR OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR COMMERCIAL POOLS. SO PREVIOUSLY, THERE WERE ADDITIONAL GRAY TONES THAT WERE ALLOWED, AND THAT RANGE HAS REALLY BEEN RESTRICTED TO WHYTE OR LIGHT GRAY, WHICH ALLOWS BETTER VISIBILITY FOR ANYTHING ON THE BOTTOM OF THE POOL. A NEW SECTION WAS ADDED IN THE SWIMMING POOL CODE THAT REFERENCES A NEW STANDARD FOR ELEVATED POOLS. SO YOU'LL SEE ELEVATED POOLS ON ROOFTOPS, ROOF DECKS, WE'RE SEEING THAT MORE AND MORE, AND THIS STANDARD ADDRESSES A REQUIREMENT TO CONTAIN ANY POTENTIAL LEAKS. SO IF SALTWATER OR CHLORINATED WATER WERE TO INFILTRATE INTO THE BUILDING, IT COULD COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF THE STRUCTURE. ADDITIONAL UPDATES TO THE BUILDING CODE AMENDMENTS INCLUDE REVISED DEFINITIONS FOR THE HOME IMPROVEMENT CONTRACTOR. THIS ADDED LANGUAGE REALLY CLARIFIES THAT HOME IMPROVEMENT CONTRACTORS CAN WORK ON REMODELS UP TO 50% OF THE BUILDING. THE DEFINITION F FOR ONSIGHT AS IT PERTAINS TO ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING SUPERVISION HAS BEEN UPDATED AS WELL. SO THE STATE HAS LANGUAGE THAT REQUIRES LICENSED PLUMBERS AND ELECTRICIANS TO OVERSEE TO SUPERVISE THE WORK OF THE APPRENTICES, AND IT SAYS ON SITE. SO THIS IS OUR ATTEMPT TO CLARIFY WHAT ON SITE MEANS. FOR NEXT STEPS, WITH YOUR APPROVAL TODAY, WE PROPOSE TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY. THE MONTHS AFTER THAT WILL ALLOW TIME FOR FOR DESIGNERS TO FINALIZE PROJECTS AND DESIGN, ALLOW STAFF TRAINING TIME, AND WE ALSO CONDUCT NUMEROUS TRAININGS FOR CUSTOMERS WITH IMPLEMENTATION DATE OF APRIL 1 . SO ANY PROJECT SUBMITTED ON APRIL 1 OR AFTER WOULD BE SUBJECT TO NEW CODE REQUIREMENTS. STAFF RECOMMENDS TO MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO 2024ICC CODES FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. THANK YOU. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> ROCHA GARCIA: GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH CRYSTAL FOR THE PRESENTATION. I KNOW IT CAN BE TEDIOUS AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT PARTICIPATE IN MEETING AFTER MEETING. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON PAGE 12, ON THE PLUMBING, IT SAYS REMOVE THE OPTION TO CONDUCT TESTING OF THE DRAIN. SO IT'S NO LONGER AN OPTION, THEY HAVE TO DO IT; RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND. >> SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN REQUIRED, IT'S JUST REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR PROVIDING THE OPTION FOR THEM TO DO IT LATER IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, SO THEY HAVE TO DO THAT TESTING AT ROUGH IN OR PREPOOR THAT REALLY ALLOWS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH ANY LEAKS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES, AND IT WOULD BE EASIER AND CHEAPER TO IDENTIFY THOSE LEAKS. >> ROCHA GARCIA: OKAY. >> SO THE INSPECTION IS REQUIRED TO BE DONE AT THE ROUGH ENTER OR PREPORE. >> ROCHA GARCIA: GOT IT. OKAY. AND THEN PAGE 13, THE SWIMMING POOL AND SPA. SO CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT [00:35:03] THE BARRIERS, AND I KNOW THERE'S SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, AND THE REASON I'M INTERESTED IN THAT ONE, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO IN D10 THERE WAS A 21 + ALARM FIRE, AND SO I HAPPENED TO BE IN -- AT AN EVENT IN THE AREA, AND I SAW THE BLACK SMOKE, AND THEN I KEPT SEEING FIRE TRUCK AFTER FIRE TRUCK. SO HELP MENDS THE ME UNDERSTANDTHE BARRIERS PART,D THAT BE A REASON THAT THIS IS BEING LOOKED AT. >> I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I WAS VERY CLOSE, SO ALL OF THE BLACK SMOKE -- THESE AREAS -- IT'S LIKE THE FENCE SURROUNDING THE SWIMMING POOL OR SPA, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW YOUNG CHILDREN OR ANYBODY THAT SHOULDN'T BE IN THE POOL. SO THERE WERE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR MESH BARRIERS, THERE'S STILL STANDARDS THAT THOSE MESH BARRIERS HAVE TO COMPLY WITH, AND IT ALLOWS LIKE -- IN FLORIDA, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN PICTURES OR MAY HAVE SEEN FOR YOURSELF THE COMPLETE BARRIER AROUND THE POOL OR A COMPLETE ENCLOSURE THAT INCLUDES ENCLOSING, YOU KNOW, THE TOP AREA OF THE POOL. SO IT EXPANDED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE OPTIONS BUT DID NOT RELAX THE REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE GATES AND LOCKS, AND SUB SUBSTANTIAL BARRIER THAT WOULD STILL ELIMINATE SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE POOL FROM GETTING TO THE POOL. >> ROCHA GARCIA: OKAY. AND MAYBE AFTERWARDS WE COULD DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND SOME OF THAT. BUT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE CURRENT CHANGES. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY. BUT THAT WORKS FOR ME. ANYBODY WANT TO ADD ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND THEN COUNCILMAN PELAEZ. >> COURAGE: THANK YOU. ONE QUESTION I HAVE WAS IS ABOUT SHADE AND ALLOWING SHADE WITHIN PARKING AREAS WITHIN 5 FEET OF A PROPERTY LINE. AND I'M WONDERING, DON'T WE OFTENTIMES HAVE SETBACKS THAT ARE AGREED. WOULD THESE OVERSEE OR SUPERSEDE THE SETBACKS OR WOULD THE SETBACKS SUPERSEDE, YOU KNOW, THE SHADE THAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT HERE. >> THE SETBACKS WOULD DEFINITELY SUPERSEDE ANY BUILDING FIRE SEPARATION. USUALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL LOT ABUDDING ANOTHER COMMERCIAL LOT, THERE ARE NO SETBACKS, SO IT WOULD BE THE BUILDING POINT AT THAT POINT THAT WOULD GOVERN A BUILDING SEPARATION THOSE SETBACKS WOULD DEFINITELY WOULD DEFINITELY BE MORE STRINGENT THAN THE BUILDING SETBACKS. >> COURAGE: OKAY. BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE A 10-FOOT SHADE AREA PEAKING OVER A 6-FOOT FENCE SO. >> YEAH. COMPLIANT WITH THE SETBACKS AND FIRE SEPARATION DISTANCE COULD BE PARAMOUNT BUT ALLOW SHADE STRUCTURES UP TO 5 FEET. >> COURAGE: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU COUNCILMAN COURAGE. COUNCILMAN PELAEZ. >> PELAEZ: SO THE COLOR OF THE SWIMMING POOLS, I NEVER THOUGHT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MONITOR AND THAT WE ENFORCE. I -- JUST SET ME STRAIGHT, RIGHT, I IMAGINE THE DARK COLORS WE DON'T WANT SO NO ONE FALLS INTO THEM AT NIGHT SO THEY DON'T THINK THEY'RE WALKING ON SOMETHING SOLID. I ALSO WANT TO IMAGINE YOU DON'T WANT THE DARK COLORS SO EMERGENCY SERVICES CAN SEE A LITTLE KID FLOATING ON THE BOTTOM OF THE POOL OR NOT FLOATING; RIGHT? BUT HAVE WE ALWAYS ALLOWED LIKE CHAR TRUCE, PERRY WINKEL, SALMON, CHEDDAR. >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, SO THESE WOULD BE OPTIONS FOR A RESIDENTIAL POOL, SO THE MIDDLE SECTION THAT STARTS WITH THE BLACK ON THE BOTTOM ALL THE WAY UP TO THE WHYTE, THAT'S WHERE THE FOCUS IS ON COMMERCIAL POOLS. SO COMMERCIAL POOLS ARE DEFINITELY WHEN WE DON'T -- OR O WANT TO BE ABLE TO NOTICE VERY QUICKLY SOMETHING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POOL. >> PELAEZ: BUT THAT'S THE ONLY REASON? I MEAN ARE THERE OTHER REASONS? I'M. >> THE SWIMMING POOL CODE DOESN'T IDENTIFY THE REASONS BUT IN THE RESEARCH, YEAH, THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE TO KIND OF LIMIT -- IT WAS ONLY ALLOWED -- YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT ARROW, JUST LIKE TWO COLORS DOWN A LITTLE BIT DARKER SHADES OF GRAY, SO THE RANGE HAS JUST BEEN REDUCED TO THE WHYTE OR VERY LIGHT GRAY. >> PELAEZ: OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO GETS TO PAINT HER POOL [00:40:04] SALMON OR CHEDDAR. >> YEAH. >> PELAEZ: THE SECOND THING. AND MORE SERIOUSLY, HAVE YOU RUN THESE BY KRI KRISTISITTER FIELD. >> ABSOLUTELY. YES. AND WE HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM KRISTI THAT SUPPORTS ADOPTION OF THE CODES AND OUR HOME BUILDERS WERE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE REVIEW PROCESS. >> PELAEZ: AND DID YOU GET PUSHBACK ON ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE PRESENING US TODAY. >> NO PUSHBACK, THERE WERE LOTS OF DISCU DISCUSSIONS, BUT NOTHING THAT WAS CONTROVERSIAL, NO PUSHBACKS, WE JUST DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THIS ROUND. >> PELAEZ: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE LITHIUM BATTERIES, THAT COMPONENT AGAIN. >> SURE. SO THE CODES ARE VERY STAGNANT. YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY'RE PRINTED, THEY DON'T CHANGE AGAIN FOR THREE YEARS, SO THE CODES ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING UP TO SPEED WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY. SO WITH THE EXPANSION OF LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, JUST BEING MORE IN PRODUCTION, THOSE ARE JUST NOW BEING ADDED TO THE CODE THAT SAYS IF YOU HAVE A TESTING AND RESEARCH FACILITY, THAT'S LIKE A BUSINESS OCCUPANCY, BUT IF YOU HAVE A FACTORY MANUFACTURING THESE BATTERIES, THAT'S LIKE AN F OR A MANUFACTURING FACILITY. SO IT REALLY KIND OF PUT THOSE USES INTO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, AND THEN THE FIRE CODE ADDED THE SPRINKLER AND FIRE ALARM REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE USES, AND IDENTIFYING THAT -- YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS, THEN THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR THE LITHIUM ION BATTERIES. ANYTHING THAT'S IN ITS ORIGINAL PACKAGING IN THE STOREROOM OF A WALMART OR WALGREENS, THAT'S NOT IMPACTED BY THIS STORAGE. THE CODE DOES HAVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE STORAGE IN ORIGINAL PACKAGING. >> CASTILLO: SO THIS WOULDN'T IMPACT FACILITIES THAT DISPOSE OF THE BATTERIES. >> THIS COULD IMPACT FACILITIES THAT DISPOSE OF THEM IN THOSE LARGE QUANTITIES. THERE'S ALSO A QUANTITY LIMITATION, IF YOU EXCEED THAT QUANTITY, THEN THE SPRINKLERS KICK IN. >> CASTILLO: AND OFFLINE, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS HOW THIS MAY IMPACT A SPECIFIC INDUSTRY IN MY DISTRICT. THANK YOU. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU. I THINK COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO AND I WERE ALONG THE SAME TRAIN OF THOUGHT, BECAUSE I WAS THINKING OUTDOOR; RIGHT? SO WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR OUTDOOR OR FACILITIES THAT ARE JUST NOT COVERED. >> NO. NO. THIS IS FOR BUILDINGS. >> ROCHA GARCIA: LITERALLY. >> BUILDINGS, ENCLOSED. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE -- FOR ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION. THANK YOU. >> ROCHA GARCIA: GOT IT. >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY FIRE EVENT IS CONTAINED SO PEOPLE CAN GET OUT OF THE BUILDING. IT'S NOT THE SAME CONCERN FOR SOMETHING EXTERIOR. >> ROCHA GARCIA: I UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND WE NEED ACTION ON THIS. SO I'LL -- THERE'S A MOTION, A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ITEM 4 IS BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE RECOMMENDED UPDATE CHAPTER 6 BUILDINGS BY ADOPTING THE PROPOSED 2024 SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE BASED OFF THE 2024 INTERNATIONAL CODE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. IT'S ALL YOURS. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS AMINTOHMAS I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT 2024 SAN ANTONIO MAINTENANCE UPDATES. SO WHY DO WE HAVE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. THE MAIN REASON IS TO ENSURE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. THIS APPLIES TO EXISTING AND NEW -- I'M SORRY, EXISTING, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND AS CRYSTAL MENTIONED WE UPDATE EVERY 3 YEARS WHEN THE NEW MAINTENANCE CODE COMES OUT, WE REVIEW THAT QUICKLY AND TRY TO ADOPT IT AS SOON AS WE CAN, AGAIN, FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS. WITH PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, WE GO THROUGH THE BUILDING STANDARD BOARD, AND IT IS A QUASI JUDICIAL BOARD APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT CONSISTS OF 14 MEMBERS. WE DO SPLIT THAT INTO 2 PANEL, 7 EACH, NORMALLY, TO REVIEW ANYTHING WE HAVE. THEIR TASK IS TO REVIEW ANY APPEALS OR VIOLATIONS FOR THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, ALSO, THEY DO REVIEW [00:45:02] CASES AND ISSUE ORDERS FOR REPAIRS AND DEMOLITION OF DEDELAPIDATED STRUCTURES. THE OTHER TASK THEY DO IS REVIEW THE CODES AND CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ADOPTING NEW CODES, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID THIS GO AROUND. SO BASICALLY, WHEN WE STARTED IN SEPTEMBER BY HAVING TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND THEN WE HAD THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS, BASICALLY OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, WE HAD FIVE OF THOSE, AND THEN WE TOOK THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BUILDING STANDARD BOARD AND WENT TO THE BOARD ON DECEMBER 5, AND THEN A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS WELL JUST TO PRESENT WHAT THE OUTCOME WAS AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE AND THEN TODAY WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU. SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE BASICALLY CONSISTS OF MAXIMUM OF 6 BOARD MEMBERS FROM THE BSB. WE HAD 8 WHO VOLUNTEERED TO BE ON IT, BUT WE HAD TWO OF THEM MORE AS A STAND BY AS ALTERNATES JUST IN CASE IF WE NEED THEM, BUT THE 6 THAT SIGNED UP, THEY ATTENDED EVERY MEETING, AND KAYLA MIRANDA, SHE WAS THE CHAIR OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, AND SHE DID AN AWESOME JOB. ONE OF THE THINGS SHE DID THAT WORKED WELL WAS SHE ALLOWED THE PUBLIC TO SIT WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND DISCUSS EVERYTHING, INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM 2 MINUTES, SHE WAS LIKE, LET'S OPEN THIS UP, WE WANT THAT FEEDBACK, SO SHE DID AN AWESOME JOB. AND WE HAD TWO CITIZENS WHO ARE NOT ON THE BOARD THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH US, AND THEY WERE APPOINTED TO THIS TASK. AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THEM. THEY DID REALLY AWESOME WORK. SO WE RECEIVED 101 PRO PO SUPPOSED AMENDMENTS, 59 OF THEM FROM THE INTERNATIONAL CODE, 16 FROM STAFF, AND 26 CAME FROM EXTERNAL MEMBERS. THE END RESULT WAS FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT THEY WERE COMMENDED APPROVAL OF -- 68 WERE RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL, AND TWO OF THEM, NO ACTION WAS NEEDED. MOST OF THE CHANGES THAT WE REVIEWED. 25 RECOMMEND. SIX RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL WITH MODIFICATIONS. AND THEN FOLLOWED BY CHAPTER 3, GENERAL REQUIREMENTS AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE, 0 CHANGES OR PROPOSALS. HERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WE HAD. THE FIRST IS DEFINING LEGAL DEFENSE. IT'S A COMMON PRACTICE THAT WE DO TODAY ALREADY, SO ANY CITY EMPLOYEE SUED TO ANY WORK THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE DEFEND THEM, BUT THEN THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE ADDED THAT TO THE CODE, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO ADD IT TO OUR CODE. THE SECOND ONE, WE CALL IT ANNUAL NOTICE. SO IF WE ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO SOMEBODY AND THE CORRECT ISSUE, THAT'S GREAT, BUT WITHIN TWO YEARS, IF THEY HAVE THE SAME EXACT ISSUE, I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM A NOTICE, I CAN GO DIRECTLY TO A CITATION, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE CURRENTLY. WHEN WE REVIEWED STATE LAW, THE STATE LAW ALLOWS FOR ONE YEAR INSTEAD OF TWO YEARS, SO WE'RE MODIFYING THE CODE TO MODIFY THE STATE, SO NOW 1 YEAR INSTEAD OF 2 YEARS. THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FORMS TO BASICALLY BE MORE DETAILED AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAIL, LOCATION, BUILDING, UNIT NUMBER, AND EVEN THE VIOLATION ITSELF TO REALLY BE VERY DESCRIPTIVE TO GIVE THE VIOLATOR MORE INFORMATION TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO WORK ON. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE ADDED INTO OUR CODE. AND THEN THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE ADDED 6 NEW DEFINITIONS. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE DEFINITIONS OR THOSE ITEMS IN THE CODE, BUT FOR CLARIFICATION SO WHEN YOU READ THE CODE AND IT TALKS ABOUT FOUNDATION WALLS, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS ALWAYS DEBATE ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, SO THE INTERNATIONAL CODE ADDED THOSE DEFINITIONS TO CLARIFY WHAT THAT MEANS, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT THAT. ONE OF THE APPENDIXES IN THE CODE BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT GENERAL STAN CARDS FOR VACANT STRUCTURES. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A VACANT STRUCTURE AND IT'S NOT SECURED, THE CONTRACTORS GO OUT THERE AND PUT PLYWOOD ON DOORS OR WINDOWS TO SECURE IT, NOW THE INTERNATIONAL CODE HAS AN APPENDIX THAT TELLS YOU EXACTLY HOW TO DO. THE GOOD THING IS WHAT WE HAVE THERE IS EXACTLY WHAT TO DO. SO IT WAS NICE. THEY'RE CATCHING UP TO US. WE DO REALLY GOOD WORK IN GENERAL. A COUPLE OF LAST SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, BASICALLY, ONE OF THEM IS THE CODE IS CATCHING UP. SO NORMALLY YOU REQUIRE [00:50:06] 7-FOOT CLEARANCE -- CEILING CLEARANCE FOR, YOU KNOW, LIVING ROOMS, BEDROOMS, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IF YOU HAVE A BATHROOM, TOILET, LAUNDRY ROOM, YOU CAN GO LOWER, 6 FEET 8 INCHES AND THAT MATCHES THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE AS WELL. SO THAT'S ONE CHANGE IN THE CODE. THE LAST ONE IS REVISING THE EFFICIENCY UNIT SIZES. SO NORMALLY ONE OCCUPANT AN EFFICIENCY AS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SCARE FOOTAGE YOU NEED. IF YOU HAVE TWO OCCUPANTS, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY REDUCED THOSE AMOUNTS A LITTLE BIT, SO WE KNOW TINY HOMES ARE HAPPENING MORE AND MORE, SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR EACH OCCUPANT IS A LITTLE LOWER, SO THE INTERNATIONAL CODE DID LOWER THOSE LIMITS A LITTLE BIT, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT THAT. SO, AGAIN, NEXT STEPS -- SO TODAY WE'RE HERE BRIEFING YOU ON THOSE UPDATES, AND OUR GOAL IS TO GO TO COUNCIL IN JANUARY FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION IN APPROVAL AND AS CRYSTAL SAID WE'LL DO --F EVERYTHING WENT THROUGH AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL, WE'LL HAVE 60 TO 90 DAYS GRACE PERIOD TO HELP US TRAIN OUR STAFF, TO HELP US TRAIN THE CITIZENS TO ACTUALLY HAVE ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS AND GET BASICALLY THE EDUCATION OUT THERE. SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE. AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER LIVE SETTING CODE PRESENTATION. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE OUTSIDE OF OUR CIRCLE RECOGNIZES, BUT MIKE SHANNON WAS AWARDED LIKE THE BUILDING OFFICIAL OF THE YEAR. >> BUILDING OFFICIAL OF THE YEAR. ALTHOUGH WHEN HE GOT IT, HE WAS WITH ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, SO THAT SHOULDN'T COUNT. >> ROCHA GARCIA: SOMEBODY SHOULD PROTEST THAT. YOU'RE RIGHT. >> EXACTLY. >> ROCHA GARCIA: WELL I'M GIVING HIM A SHOUTOUT FOR LEADING THE DEPARTMENT SO THANKS FOR BEING HERE. AND THANKS FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ONCE AGAIN, I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO GO LINE BY LINE, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DID AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A ROUND OF AMENDMENTS THAT NONBSB PARTICIPANTS WERE ALSO ALLOWED TO BE INVOLVED IN, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN GENERAL, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO I'LL START OFF WITH MY COLLEAGUES WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR -- ACTUALLY, MOTION. I'M SO SORRY. I'LL NEED TO DISCUSS. SO MY APOLOGIES, I KEEP FORGETTING THAT. SO MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> ROCHA GARCIA: ALL RIGHT. NOW WE CAN CONTINUE DISCUSSION. COUNCILMAN COURAGE. GO AHEAD. >> COURAGE: I WAS LOOKING AT -- WELL, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EASEMENTS, UTILITY EASEMENTS, PROBABLY, AND ALLEYS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCING THE AVAILABILITY OF EASEMENTS TO BE PROPERLY ACCESSED, I UNDERSTAND THAT IS A PROPERTY OWNER'S OBLIGATION, IS THAT STILL CORRECT? >> IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY, THIS PICTURE IS AN ALLEY, WE CALL IT ALLEY, NOT EASEMENT, SO ALLEYS ARE REQUIRED TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITIZENS OR THE RESIDENTS. HALF OF THE ALLEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY ON THIS SIDE, AND THE OTHER HALF RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OTHERED A JAY SENT RESIDENT COURAGE AND WHAT ABOUT UTILITY EASEMENT. >> LET'S SAY THEY'RE TO A COMPANY, AT&T. CPS, ANOTHER ONE, THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT. SOME ARE FOR CITY, SOLID WASTE, THEN THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE. >> COURAGE: AND HOW DOES YOUR DEPARTMENT ENFORCE THOSE THINGS. I MEAN, IF WE GET A CALL ABOUT AN ISSUE THERE THEN WE CHECK THAT LOCATION, WE CONFIRM WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROPERTY, THAT'S STEP ONE FOR ANY CODE OFFICER, TO EITHER FIND THE LOCATION, THE ADDRESS, AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHO THE OWNER, AND THEN WE GO TO THE OWNER AND ASK THEM TO TAKE CARE OF IT, ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. >> COURAGE: SO WE DON'T GO OUT AND LOOK FOR PROBLEMS. WE WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO TELL US THEY THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM. >> WE DO OVER 65% PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS. SO OVERALL WE DO ABOUT 350,000 INSPECTIONS, I WOULD SAY ABOUT 200,000 ARE PROACTIVE. SO IF I'M A CODE OFFICER AND I'M RESPONDING TO A [00:55:04] CODE, ON THE WAY THERE I SEE OTHER THINGS, I ADDRESS THOSE THERE. SO YES WE DO PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS. >> COURAGE: OKAY. I JUST KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING ON THEIR PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH MEANS A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE DEVELOPING OVER UTILITY EADSMENTS AND I'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS THAT THE CPS TRUCK COULDN'T GET IN TO REPAIR A LINE BECAUSE THERE'S A FENCE OR STRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT BLOCKING WHAT USED TO BE THE EASEMENT. THOSE THINGS, IF THEY COME UP, HOW DOES YOUR DEPARTMENT ADDRESS THOSE. >> SURE. IF WE GET ANY COMPLAINTS LIKE THAT, AS I MENTIONED, WE GO CHECK THE LOCATION, AND WE ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION IF WE DO FIND THE VIOLATION -- IF THEY DIDN'T ENCROACH INTO THE EASEMENT, THEN THEY'RE OKAY. BUT IF WE DIDN'T, WE DO AN ISSUE OF NOTICE OF INVITATION AND WE'RE REQUIRED TO CORRECT THAT ISSUE. >> COURAGE: AND SAME WITH ALLIES LIKE THIS. >> YES, SIR. >> COURAGE: THANK YOU. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PELAEZ. >> PELAEZ: TWO THINGS, ONE, I'VE BEEN GIVEN STRICT INSTRUCTIONS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT LAURA GARZA WANTS TO SPEAK TO YOU FROM MY OFFICE SO IT'S ON THE RECORD, PLEASE PUT THAT ON THE MINUTES. THE SECOND THING IS I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS RELEVANT OR NOT TO THIS CONVERSATION BUT I THINK IT IS BASED ON WHAT I SAW. I'M GETTING WORD FROM CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, HALFWAY THROUGH WITH CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, CLOSE TO BEING DONE, AND INSPECTORS COME OUT AND SAY HERE IS A VIOLATION, HERE IS A VIOLATION, PLEASE FIX; RIGHT? AND THEY'LL FIX, INSPECTOR WILL COME OUT TO VERIFY AND SAY, TERRIFIC, AND NOW HERE ARE TWO MORE VIOLATIONS, TWO MORE VIOLATIONS, THEY'LL FIX, AND THEN THE INSPECTOR COMES OUT AND SAYS GOOD. NOW TWO MORE AND TWO MORE. IS THERE A WAY WE'RE GETTING THIS DONE AT ONCE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE DEATH BY ONE THOUSAND PAPER CUTS. >> SO A COUPLE THINGS. THIS IS PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. THIS IS FOR EXISTING. CONSTRUCTION YES WE HAVE INSPECTORS THEY GO AND INSPECT THOSE. I CAN'T SAY 100% WE DON'T COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD, BUT 99% OF THE TIME, WHEN WE DO AN INSPECTION, WE WANT TO LIST EVERYTHING WE SEE. SOMETIMES WHAT COULD HAPPEN IS WE SAY YOU NEED TO FIX THESE ITEMS WHILE THEY FIX THOSE ITEMS, THEY CREATE ANOTHER ISSUE, WE SEE THAT A LOT OF TIMES, BUT IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC LOCATION OR SPECIFIC PROJECT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. >> PELAEZ: I WILL. I THINK YOU'RE DOING GREAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU COUNCILMAN PELAEZ. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I THINK THESE ARE SENSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS. I DID HAVE TWO POINTS OF CLARIFICATION ON AMENDMENT NUMBER 2, 102.4, THE AMENDMENT ISN'T CLEAR, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHETHER THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS BEING REMOVED, THE QUOTE, HOWEVER, DEMOLITION AND REMOVAL SHOULD BE REGARDED AS REMEDY OF LAST RESORT. WILL THAT SECTION BE REMOVED. >> NO, MA'AM, THAT STAYS. YES. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN MY LAST POINT OF CLARIFICATION. ON AMENDMENT 3, 102.6, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE, DETERMINE TO ASSESS POTENTIAL. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS RECOMMENDED. DETERMINE TO ASSESS A POTENTIAL. >> ASSESS A POTENTIAL. >> CASTILLO: YES. ON 102.6. >> I CAN GET BACK TO YOU IN REGARDS TO THAT. >> CASTILLO: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR. >> ROCHA GARCIA: WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. >> ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. [Consent Agenda  ] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH HAS TWO RESOLUTIONS OF NO OBJECTION, ONE FOR EMBER STONE APARTMENT AND LAKESIDE LOFT. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. THERE'S -- GREAT. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I HAVE A QUESTION,. >> ROCHA GARCIA: ABSOLUTELY. COUNCILMAN. GO AHEAD. >> COURAGE: I LOOKED AT THESE, AND I WOULD JUST ASK IF BOTH OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS FROM THOSE DISTRICTS HAVE APPROVED THOSE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE JUST WENT THROUGH A REALLY BAD EXPERIENCE IN DISTRICT 10 WHERE WE FIND OUT AFTER THE FACT THAT THE COUNCILMEMBER ISN'T GOING TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO [01:00:01] KNOW IN THESE TWO PARTICULAR PROJECTS IF THE COUNCILMEMBERS SUPPORT THE PROJECTS BEFORE THE CITY SAYS WE'LL GO THROUGH. >> ROCHA GARCIA: I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE COUNCILMEMBERS CHANGE THEIR MINDS BECAUSE THEY WERE APPROVED INITIALLY. ONE IS IN MINE AND I SUPPORT. BUT VERONICA. >> YES. THEY'RE BOTH ZONED CORRECTLY AS WELL. >> COURAGE: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >> ROCHA GARCIA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'VE CONCLUDED OUR MEETING AT 11: * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.