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OPPORTUNITY TO[2. 19-6858 Briefing and possible action on the status report of the Traffic Analysis related to the Lower Segment of the 2017 Bond Broadway Corridor Project. [Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Razi Hosseini, Interim Director, Transportation & Capital Improvements]]
PRESENT YOU OUR BROADWAY LOWER SEGMENT OF THE BROADWAY TRAFFIC STUDY.IS A 2017 BOND PROGRAM, 42 MILLION PART OF THE BOND AND 40 MILLION M P O AND TECH START FUNDED PROJECT.
ENTIRE PROJECT IS ALMOST A HUNDRED MILLION, BUT OF COURSE I, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE 56 MILLION ALTOGETHER INCLUDING BOUND AND M P O AND TECH DOT PROJECT IS DIVIDED THREE SEGMENT, LOWER SEGMENT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, A TREE RED COLOR, WHICH IS FROM A HISTONE TO I 35.
THE EXISTING RIGHT HAVE A 72 78 FOOT WIDE AND $27 MILLION BUDGET.
FOR THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE ALREADY DESIGNED BUILD CONTRACT ON THIS PROJECT AND PROJECT IS UNDER DESIGN AT THIS TIME, UPPER SIG PHASE ONE, WHICH IT SHOWS IN BLUE.
THAT'S WE ARE IN PROCESS OF HIRING CONSULTING SELECTION.
TO DESIGN THIS PROJECT FOR US IS $27 MILLION BUDGET AND RIGHT AWAY IS INCLUDE FROM 80 TO 100 FOOT WIDE RIGHT AWAY UPPER SIGMA PHASE TWO, WHICH IS THE LAST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, IS 100 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.
THE ONLY FUNDING WE HAVE FOR THIS PROJECT AT THIS TIME HALF A MILLION DOLLAR FOR CONCEPT DESIGN OR SCHEMATIC DESIGN ONLY.
THERE'S A BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT.
RIVER NORTH STUDY WAS DONE IN 2007.
MIDTOWN MASTER PLAN WAS DONE IN 2011 BROADWAY CORRIDOR STUDY AND BUILD YOUR OWN BROADWAY WAS DONE IN 2016 AND ALSO IN 2016.
CONCEPT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF 2017 BOND PROGRAM.
WHEN WE WERE PLANNING TO PREPARE FOR 2017 BOND PROGRAM.
IN 2000 MAY OF 2017, VO APPROVED THE 2017 AND 2022 BOND PROGRAM, 850,000,180 PROJECT AND THIS PROJECT WAS ONE OF 180.
PROJECT DESIGN BUILT TEAM WAS SELECTED AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL EARLY IN 2018 AND 40% DESIGN IS A COMPLETED NAV.
THE STATEMENT BELOW IS THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE ON UH, BOND BROCHURE RECONSTRUCT BROADWAY FROM HISTON TO HILDEBRAND WITH CURBS, SIDEWALK DRIVEWAY APPROACHES, BICYCLE AMENITY, LIGHTING, DRAINAGE, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT AND APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE AVAILABLE FUNDS.
CITY FUNDING WILL BE LEVERAGED.
BROADWAY GUIDING PRINCIPLE INCLUDES HERE CREATE THREE LINE CORRIDOR ENSURE COM, COMFORTABLE SIDEWALKS PROVIDE VIABLE BICYCLE CONNECTIVITY, BALANCE NEEDS TO DESTINATION AND THROUGH TRAFFIC, PROVIDE PARKING IN CONSTRAINED SEGMENT, CELEBRATE
COMPLETE STREETS ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER, 2011.
TAKES INTO ACCOUNT ALL USER OF ALL AGES AND ABILITY.
COMPLETE DOES NOT MEANS ALL STREET MUST BE THE SAME.
THE ROADWAY FUNCTION AND LEVEL OF ALL TRAFFIC MODES IS CONSIDERED RESPECT.
LAND, LAND USE CONTEXT, AVAILABLE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE COST INTERDISCIPLINARY APPROACH THAT COMBINES ENGINEERING AND PLANNING BEST PRACTICE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS COMPLETELY STREET
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POLICY IN ORDER FOR US TO INCLUDE BIKE LANE, TRAVEL LANE, WIDER SIDEWALK LANDSCAPING L I ID IDEALLY IT REQUIRES 122 FEET WIDE RIGHT AWAY.OF COURSE ON LOWER SEGMENT ALL WE HAVE 78 FOOT, BUT THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO BE ABLE BASICALLY NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD ALL OF THE LI ALL OF THE ITEM.
WE LIKE TO INCLUDE PART OF THE ROADWAY.
TO HAVE A TRUE COMPLETE STREET, WE NEED TO HAVE 12 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, FOUR FOOT TREE LINE, SIX FOOT BIKE LANE, THREE FOOT BUFFER FOR THE BIKE LANE ON STREET PARKING, TRAVEL LANE, WIDER MEDIAN AND SO ON, WHICH IS ADDS UP FOR 122 FOOT WIDE ON LOWER SEGMENT, WHICH BETWEEN HISTO AND JOSEPH, SOUTH OF JOSEPH AND WE HAVE 78 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.
THE PROPOSED SECTION, WE ARE DESIGNING THIS PROJECT FOR 10 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, FOUR FOOT TREE LINE BUS LANE, 11 FOOT TRAVEL LANE, 10 FOOT TWO 10 FOOT AND ANOTHER BUS LANE ON STREET PARKING AND ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ON CERTAIN LOCATION.
FOUR FOOT THREE, THREE LINE AND OF COURSE 10 FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
TYPICAL STREET SCAPE SECTION LOOKS LIKE IN UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON GRAPH, WIDER SIDEWALK LANDSCAPING ON STREET PARKING AND ALSO PROVIDE US OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT OR L I D.
WHEN YOU, WE GO NORTH OF JOSEPHINE UNTIL THE FARTHER NORTH, WE HAVE A 10 FOOT RIGHT AWAY, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE CAN BE ABLE TO BUILD 11 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, FOUR FOOT WIDE, THREE LINE FIVE FOOT BIKE LANE, THREE FOOT SEPARATION AND BUS LANE AND TRAVEL LANE AND OF COURSE 12 FOOT MEDIAN AND REPEATING SAME ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
THIS IS THE ONE AS WE HAVE FROM JOSEPH HILDEBRAND, WHICH IS 100 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK.
THE QUESTION WAS WHY WE NOT INCLUDE BIKE LANE ON LOWER SECTION WE HAD LOOKED NUMBER OF THE SECTION, SEE WHAT CAN WE DO TO INCLUDE BIKE LANE ON THE LOWER PART OF THE BROADWAY.
ALSO TOP SECTION SHOWS WHAT WE ARE DESIGNING THIS ROADWAY TODAY, WHICH IS AGAIN 10 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, FOUR FOOT TREES, EIGHT FOOT PARKING, 11 FOOT FOUR BUS LANE, AND 10 FOOT FOR DRIVING LANE AND SO ON AND ON THIS ONE WE HAVE ONLY PARKING LANE ON ONE SIDE ONLY.
WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE ELIMINATE ONE OF THE TRAVEL LANE RATHER THAN HAVING FOUR TRAVEL LANE.
WHY NOT CUT ONE AND HAVE THREE LANE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING TO BE RESULT OF IT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SECTION BELOW THE SIDEWALK GETS SLIGHTLY NARROWER FROM 10 TO NINE FOOT.
OF COURSE WE HAVE A STILL FOUR FOOT, THREE LINE, FIVE FOOT BIKE LANE, EIGHT FOOT PARKING LANE, 11 FOOT FOR DRIVER LANE AND 10 FOOT AND ANOTHER 11 FOOT.
AND OF COURSE YOU SEE TWO FOOT BUFFER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE AND FIVE FOOT BIKE LANE.
THE TRADE-OFF FOR THIS ONE IS A MICRO MOBILITY LANE IS NOT PROTECTED.
THAT'S ONE TRADE-OFF SIGNIFICANT VEHICLE.
VEHICLE AND TRANSIT CONGESTION ON THE BROADWAY AND ALSO ON INTERSECTION STREETS.
AND ALSO THERE IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN MICRO MOBILITY AND DOOR ZONE.
WHEN PEOPLE IS PARK AND THEY'RE OPENING THE DOOR, THERE IS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITHIN BIS AND THE VEHICLES PARK.
THE ISSUE WAS WHY WE ARE FAVORING ONAIR PARKING.
IT IS REALLY NOT ONAIR PARKING.
THIS IS REALLY UTILITY LANE, WHICH IS PROVIDE MANY OTHER USED THAN JUST ON STREET PARKING.
IT PROVIDES DELIVERY AND RIGHT SHARE RETAIL AND VISITOR PARKING.
OF COURSE IT DOES PROVIDE PARKING ALSO.
IT PROVIDES US OPPORTUNITY TO DO PLANT MORE TREES AND OF COURSE CREATE MORE SHADE.
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US OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE ALSO LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND OF COURSE ENHANCE THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND COMFORT.WHEN YOU HAVE MORE LANDSCAPING AND TREES THEN WE LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITY.
CAN WE ELIMINATE THE UTILITY LANE? WHAT WILL HAPPEN? AGAIN, THE SECTION ON THE TOP, YOU SEE WHAT SECTION WE ARE DESIGNING TODAY.
THE SECTION BELOW SHOWS SIDEWALK GETS SIGNIFICANTLY NARROWER.
THAT'S REALLY 30% REDUCTION ON SIDEWALK.
OF COURSE WE HAVE STILL FOUR FOOT FOR THREE LINE.
WE HAVE FIVE FOOT FOR BIKE, TWO FOOT PROTECTION ZONE 11 4 4 DRIVING LANE, ANOTHER 10 FOOT AND SO ON.
AND THIS ONE IS STRAIGHT OFF IS NARROW SIDEWALK SIGNIFICANTLY NO UTILITY LANE AND CURVE BALL UP, WHICH IS PROVIDES SHORTER CROSSING THE ROADWAY ON INTERSECTIONS.
WHEN IT GETS CLOSE TO THE JOSEPHINE, JOSEPHINE REQUIRE LEFT TURN LANE.
BASICALLY ELIMINATES THE BUFFER FOR BIKE AND ALSO MAKES IT SIDEWALK MUCH, MUCH NARROWER.
THIS IS COMPLETE HISTORY SUMMARY SHOWING WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WHAT KIND EFFECT IS GOING TO HAVE ON A PEDESTRIAN BIKE, TRANSIT AND VEHICLE UPPER SECTION.
YOU REALIZE IT MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS ALL OF THOSE CIRCLE IS FULL.
THAT MEANS IT IS A HIGH LOWER BROADWAY.
THE WAY WE ARE DESIGNING AS IS IT DOES NOT MEET BICYCLE REQUIREMENT BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE PROPOSING BIKE LANE TO BE ON AVENUE B AND I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE WE ARE GETTING FUNDING FROM MIDTOWN TOURS TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT BICYCLE LANE.
ALSO, ORIGINALLY WAS A PLAN NOE REALITY BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING FUNDING TO DESIGN AND BUILD IT.
REMOVING VEHICLE LANE AND ADDING MICRO MOBILITY LANE.
OF COURSE YOU REALIZE PEDESTRIAN IS FULL BICYCLE IS HALF FULL BECAUSE IT MISSES SOME OF THE ITEM AND TRANSIT AND VEHICLE REALLY SUFFERS REMOVING UTILITY LANE AND ADDING MICRO MOBILITY LANE.
OF COURSE ALSO YOU CAN SEE THE PEDESTRIAN SUFFER SOME BICYCLE DOZEN AND TRANSIT ALSO GOES.
THE LEVEL OF SERVICE GOES DOWN AVENUE B AND NORTH ALAMO FOR BICYCLE.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SKETCH IS SHOWING HALF THE ALIGNMENT IS FOR BICYCLE IS GOING TO BE FROM HILDABRAND TO JOSEPHINE.
BIKE LANE WILL BE ON AVENUE ON BROADWAY.
WHEN IT GOES TO JOSEPHINE IT'LL GO TO AVENUE B AND WILL STAY ON AVENUE B UNTIL IT COMES UNDER HIGHWAY AND IT'LL GO BACK TO AVENUE B.
WE HAVE FUNDING TO DESIGN AND BUILD THIS PROJECT AND NORTH ALAMO IS POSSIBLE FOR FUTURE BIKE PROJECT.
THIS IS THE SECTION YOU CAN SEE THE SECTION ON THE LEFT IS EXISTING AVENUE B.
WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS ONE ONE WAY TWO, THERE'S TWO WAY, ONE WAY TO SOUTH AND IT'LL HAVE A PROTECTED TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK WITH THE WIDER SIDEWALK AND ON STREET PARKING.
AND OF COURSE TRAVEL LANE ON THIS ONE SIDEWALK WILL BE BETWEEN EIGHT TO 10 FOOT WIDE.
DEPEND ON HOW WIDE IS THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THIS IS THE SECTION IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AFTER WE DESIGN AND BUILD A PROJECT SCHEDULE FOR THIS ONE.
FUNDING IS APPROVED BY MIDTOWN THIRD LAST WEEK ACTUALLY SEPTEMBER THIR 14.
DESIGN WILL START JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR.
CONSTRUCTION WILL START JANUARY AND 2001.
CONSTRUCTION WILL FINISH IN FALL OF 2001.
ON IN SUMMARY, A STUDY CONCLUDED INSTALLATION OF BIKE LANES ON BROADWAY CAUSES VARIOUS MOBILITY
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CHALLENGES.TRAFFIC LANE REDUCTION WILL CAUSE MAJOR CONGESTION, NARROW SIDEWALK AND REDUCTION IN THE TREES.
CREATE UNSAFE CONDITION FOR TRANSIT USER AND BIKES.
STAFF RECOMMEND PROCEEDING WITH SUBMITTED 40% DESIGN THAT INCLUDE FOUR TRAFFIC LANE ON BROADWAY ON STREET PARKING, WHICH IS WILL BE USED FOR DROP OFF AND DELIVERY WIDER THREE LANE, SIDEWALK AND PROTECTED BIKE LANE ON AVENUE B FOR SAFE PEDESTRIAN AND TRANSIT USE.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE AND ALSO OUR CONSULTING FROM
THEY'RE HERE WITH US TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE FROM THEM TOO.
BEFORE WE ASK FOR THE CITIZENS.
WITH THIS PRESENTATION WE HAD SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED YOU TO GET BACK TO US ON IN THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING.
WE ASKED ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IT WAS IN THE AREA.
WE ASKED ABOUT WHAT KIND OF EXPECTATION WAS THERE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT THAT WAS OVER A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE COMING INTO THE AREA.
I KNOW EACH OF MY COLLEAGUES ASK YOU VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO GET BACK TO US ON, YOU GAVE ME THE SAME PRESENTATION YOU GAVE LAST WEEK.
WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER PRESENTATION, UM, THAT THE MAYOR HAD ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE REDUCED TO THREE LANES.
WE KNOW THAT THE CONSULTING FIRM DID LOTS OF MODELING TO GIVE US WHAT EXAMPLES WOULD HAPPEN IF WE WENT DOWN TO THREE LANES.
UM, I ASKED YOU VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
I SENT A LETTER IN WRITING ALL OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS, INCLUDING THE MAYOR, ROD, AND YOU ALL RECEIVED IT ASKING VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU PRESENTED LAST TIME AND YOU GAVE ME THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT YOU DID LAST TIME.
UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE CITIZENS HERE TO SPEAK AND I HATE TO CUT THEM OFF, BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR.
I MEAN I ROD WHAT, WHAT I'M JUST, I'M AT A LOSS.
WHAT WELL, I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS IN THIS PRESENTATION.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TAKE OUT THAT LANE OF TRAFFIC.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE ENTIRE ENVIRONMENT, LIKE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE ENVIRONMENT ON BROADWAY THAT WOULD JUSTIFY REDUCING FROM FOUR TRAVEL LANES TO THREE TRAVEL LANES.
AND THERE WERE OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I CANNOT THINK OF ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD BECAUSE I WAS NOT THE AUTHOR OF THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ASKED THEM IN THE LAST PRESENTATION.
SO DO YOU HAVE THE ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS? COUNCILWOMAN, YOU SENT US WRITTEN EIGHT QUESTION OR SO WE HAVE PREPARED ANSWER ON EVERY ONE OF THEM.
WE WERE PLANNING TO SEND YOUR OFFICE SHORTLY, RIGHT? BUT I MEAN, I GAVE YOU THOSE THREE WEEKS AGO.
DID I GAVE IT TO YOU RIGHT AFTER THE LAST PRESENTATION OR RIGHT AFTER THE MAYOR MADE A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THEM BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA WASTE TIME TODAY GOING POINT BY POINT IN THE EIGHT QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, WHICH IS WHY I SUBMITTED THEM IN WRITING.
UH, BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ANTICIPATED GROWTH IN THE AREA ABOUT, I KNOW THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ASK QUESTIONS.
WHERE ARE THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS? THIS IS JUST THE SAME THING REITERATED.
AND THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA HASH IT OUT AND HAVE THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT WE HAD LAST TIME, WHICH IS NOT WHAT I WANNA SEE IN ANOTHER MEETING.
UM, MY SUGGESTION, I MEAN, I I, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK, BUT UNLESS MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, UH, I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO CONTINUE ON WITH THIS PRESENTATION 'CAUSE YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN WHAT WE ASKED FOR.
UM, LET ME JUST OPEN IT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, JUST FOR POSTERITY,
'CAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE LAST TIME THAT TESTIFIED, UM, I'M SORRY, THAT DIDN'T TESTIFY.
THEY, UH, SPOKE ABOUT WHY IT WAS A SAFER OPTION AND I'VE SINCE RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHY.
UM, BUT IF YOU COULD, I GUESS MAYBE NEXT TIME WE PRESENT, OFFER THAT INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC, UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
YEAH, WE HAVE THOSE QUESTION ANSWERED, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO, UH, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SAFETY FOR BIKE FACILITIES,
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THERE'S A COMBINATION OF FACTORS.WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC VOLUME, POTENTIAL CONFLICT ZONES, THE WIDTH OF THE FACILITY.
UH, SO WHEN, AS RAZZI PRESENTED, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT VARIOUS OPTIONS ON BROADWAY ITSELF, UM, AVENUE B HAS MUCH MORE ROOM FOR A WIDER, MORE PROTECTIVE FACILITY.
THERE'S ABOUT A 10TH OF THE TRAFFIC VOLUME THAT YOU HAVE ON BROADWAY.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S LESS DRIVEWAYS.
SO THERE'S STILL THE INTERSECTING STREETS, UH, BUT YOU DON'T SEE THE FREQUENCY OF DRIVEWAYS THAT YOU SEE ON BROADWAY.
SO THAT'S THE, THE, THE COMBINATION OF THINGS, UH, THAT YOU LOOK AT FOR THE TERM IS KIND OF A EIGHT TO 80 FACILITY.
SO SOMETHING THAT SUITS THE YOUNG AS WELL AS THE ELDERLY.
MAY I ASK YOU TOLAR, UM, COUNCILWOMAN, LET ME ADD SOMETHING MORE.
ALSO, AVENUE B TODAY IS A TWO WAY NORTH AND SOUTH.
SINCE IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT MUCH TRAVEL, WE CAN EASILY REDUCE TO ONE, REDUCED TO ONE LANE.
GIVES US MORE ROOM TO ADD SAFER BIKE LANE.
WE COULD DO THAT ONE ON THE BROADWAY.
WE DID TRY TO HAVE A TWO LANES SOUTH AND ONE LANE NORTH.
WE HAS A SIGNIFICANT BUS TRAVEL WHEN YOU HAVE ONE LANE GOING NORTH WHEN THE BUSES STOP, END UP REALLY BLOCKING THAT ENTIRE LANE.
I, UM, WOULD YOU MIND ELABORATING MORE ON THE, THE, THE CONFLICT POINTS? I SHOULD ALSO MENTION WE HAVE JEAN DAWSON HERE WHO ACTUALLY HELPED US DO THIS STUDY AND JEAN CAN HELP US ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AS WELL.
SO COUNCILWOMAN, THE CONFLICT POINTS I WAS SPEAKING OF ARE AT INTERSECTING STREETS, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, JUST LIKE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, ALL VEHICLES HAVE TO LOOK FOR, UH, THE OPPOSING MOTION AS WELL AS ALL THE DRIVEWAYS.
SO EVERY TIME, UH, A VEHICLE, CAR, SOMEONE WALKING, UH, ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY, THERE'S A POTENTIAL CONFLICT POINT WHERE SOMEONE IN THE OPPOSING DIRECTION, UH, COULD, COULD IMPACT EACH OTHER.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE CONFLICTS I WAS SPEAKING OF.
THOSE A TRAFFIC INPUT REGARDING THE GROWTH YOU HAD ASKED US, THEY HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE MODELING, AND I LIKE THE GENE OR SOMEBODY FROM HIS OFFICE TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH, WHAT PERCENTAGE GROWTH THEY HAVE INCLUDED PART OF THEIR MODELING.
SO I, I SUSPECTED YOU DID HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, THOSE QUESTIONS.
FOR SOME REASON YOU DON'T WANNA PRESENT THEM.
YOU JUST WANNA PRESENT THE SAME THING THAT WE ALREADY, THAT WE ALREADY KNOW.
WE DON'T NEED TO DEBATE WHETHER OR NOT THE RECOMMENDED THE RECOMMENDED PROPOSAL.
WHAT WE WANTED TO HEAR WAS WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING IN THE COURT.
THERE WERE VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED, SO I DON'T WANNA REHASH THOSE.
AND WE GAVE YOU SUFFICIENT TIME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
OR IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THEM, PERHAPS YOU COULD HAVE JUST SAID, WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS TODAY.
UH, BUT I MEAN, I I DIDN'T GET THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU'D HAVEN'T HAD TIME.
UH, YOU JUST DON'T WANNA PRESENT THEM.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANNA ASK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD HAVE A WHOLE PRESENTATION FROM P DAWSON AND JEAN.
UH, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THEM.
I WAS HOPING TO SEE SOME OF THAT TODAY.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT OBVIOUSLY HERE IN THE PRESENTATION, UNFORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T PUT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE HAVE PREPARED TWO PAGE RESPONSE FOR EVERY QUESTION YOU HAD, QUESTION BY QUESTION AND RESPONSE TO THOSE QUESTION.
WE CAN PROVIDE A COPY OF THOSE, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF PRESENTATION.
YES, I KNOW THAT IS NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
UM, I JUST DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO, TO, TO START GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVEN'T IN A MONTH'S TIME PRESENTED SOMETHING SO COUNCILWOMAN, I'LL JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION ON THE GROWTH FACTOR.
SO, HISTORICALLY, UH, BROADWAY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS HAS EXPERIENCED ABOUT A 4% GROWTH RATE AND JUST PURELY LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC VOLUME.
SO IN THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE, UH, PROJECTED FOR 20 YEARS, IT WAS ABOUT A 35% GROWTH RATE OVERALL AND THE NUMBER OF TRIPS AS A RESULT OF YOUR TYPICAL GROWTH AS WELL AS A RESULT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN FORECASTED INTO A MODEL 35% OVER 20 YEARS.
SO YOU'VE ONLY AN ANTICIPATED 4% GROWTH IN 20 YEARS? NO, HISTORICALLY, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, BROADWAY ITSELF, AND MUCH OF DOWNTOWN HAS SEEN ABOUT A 4% GROWTH RATE IN TRAFFIC VOLUME.
THE FORECAST FOR 20 YEARS IN THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE FOR EACH OF THE THREE OP OPTIONS RAZZI PRESENTED WAS A 35% GROWTH RATE OVERALL FOR 30 YEARS, 20 YEARS.
THAT'S THE GROWTH IN VOLUME AS ATTRIBUTED TO THE BACKGROUND TRANSPORTATION GROWTH AS WELL AS FROM REDEVELOPMENT, 35% IN 20 YEARS.
SO HOW MUCH IS THAT A YEAR? UH, IT AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT ONE POINT A HALF PERCENT EACH YEAR.
BUT COMPACT, COMPACT DID, SO IT'S ACTUALLY EVENTUALLY THE, THE ENTIRE GROWTH RATE WILL LEVEL OFF.
SO INSTEAD OF 4% EVERY YEAR, LIKE WE'VE SEEN, IT WAS ACTUALLY A, A MORE CONSERVATIVE GROWTH RATE OF ONE POINT A HALF PERCENT.
BUT OVERALL, 20 OVER FOR 20 YEARS, IT'S 35% TOTAL INCREASE IN TRAFFIC VOLUME.
WHY WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE LESS GROWTH? WE, BECAUSE IT, THERE'S BEEN SUCH A BOOM RIGHT NOW.
WE KNOW THAT WHAT'S FORECASTED IN THE, IN THE REDEVELOPMENT WILL, WILL TAPER OFF AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN.
WE'VE SEEN THAT TRACKING DOWNWARDS, UH, TOWARDS DOWNTOWN.
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DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, ONLY BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALL TOOK OFF TIME.UM, DAVID FROST, DO YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK? IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP TO THE FRONT? MY PRESENTATION IS ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SUBJECT, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO HAVE REGISTERED FOR ITEM TWO FIRST, UH, FOR CONTINUITY SAKE, I, I WOULD NOT OBJECT TO THAT.
AND I DO SEE HERE THAT, UM, SOME OF THE, YOU DID WRITE ITEM NUMBER THREE.
UM, SO WE WILL GO AND I THINK ROBERT, YOU'RE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE AS WELL.
WHERE DID YOU GO? IF YOU'RE STILL HERE? MAYBE HE LEFT.
UM, SO HOW ABOUT BRIAN MARTIN FROM BIKE SAN ANTONIO, ARE YOU HERE? GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO TRY AND MAKE A BROADWAY A SAFER AND BETTER PLACE FOR FOLKS TO GET AROUND.
UM, I WANT TO ADDRESS EVERYBODY HERE IN THE ROOM ABOUT THE 2017 BOND PACKAGE THAT THE VOTERS VOTED ON.
AND TO BE SPECIFIC, UM, LET ME READ IT TO YOU 'CAUSE THAT MIGHT MAYBE CLARIFY SOME THINGS FOR FOLKS.
SO THE BROADWAY STREET CORRIDOR, AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS USED IN THE BOND PACKAGE, RECONSTRUCT BROADWAY FROM EAST HILDEBRAND TO HOUSTON WITH CURBS, SIDEWALKS, DRIVEWAY APPROACHES, BIKE AMENITIES, LIGHTING, DRAINAGE, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS AS APPROPRIATE AND WITHIN AVAILABLE FUNDS, UH, CITY FUNDING WILL LEVERAGE STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING.
SO WHAT I DO NOT SEE ON THAT IS PARKING PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PRIORITIZING THE PARKING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY OVER THE SAFETY OF A CYCLING COMMUNITY.
WHO'S REALLY HURTING RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DEATHS IN THIS CITY AND, UM, WE CAN DESIGN STREETS THAT ARE SAFER FOR EVERYBODY.
SO IF OUR OWN DESIGNS ARE NOT COHERENT WITH COMPLETE STREETS AND OUR VISION'S ZERO, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE HAVE A LOT OF VERY TALENTED PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO KNOW HOW TO DO THIS CORRECTLY.
BUT WHAT I SEE AND WHAT BIKE GUESTS SAY SEES IS THAT THERE'S MONEYED INTERESTS THAT DON'T WANT THESE BIKE LANES IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTIES.
UM, I THINK THIS IS REALLY SHORTSIGHTED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BUILDING A CITY THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING AND LOOKING FOR WHEN THEY'RE MOVING TO SAN ANTONIO.
WE'RE BUILDING A CITY THAT, UH, CATERS TO CARS.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A 20 20TH CENTURY MODEL THAT WE NEED TO LEAVE BEHIND BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF TALENT AND WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LOOK AT SAN ANTONIO AND THEY LOOK AT THE AMENITIES AND THE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE SUBWAYS HERE, WE DON'T HAVE A METRO, BUT WHAT WE COULD DO IS PUT A PROTECTED BIKE LANE FROM HOUSTON TO, TO HILDEBRAND THAT WOULD MOVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN A GIVEN HOUR AS A MASS TRANSIT LINE.
UM, SO, UH, ALSO WHILE I HAVE THIS MIC AND OPPORTUNITY, I'M INVITING THE WHOLE CITY COUNCIL AND OUR MAYOR RON BERG TO COME ON A RIDE ON BROADWAY WITH US ON OCTOBER 27TH.
AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE'LL HAVE ELECTRIC BIKES PROVIDED BY SWELL CYCLES AND HELMETS PROVIDED WITH THE DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THEM.
AND WE'LL HAVE THREE STOPS AT LIONS FIELD, AM MERRICK PARK AND TRAVIS PARK, SO FOLKS CAN COME OUT AND GET CIVICALLY ENGAGED WITH THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
'CAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS CAN'T MAKE IT TO MEETINGS LIKE THIS TODAY.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE AND FOR LISTENING.
BRIAN AND TINA, I KNOW YOU DIDN'T WANNA SPEAK, BUT SHE'S JUST HERE WITH THE, UM, BLACK GIRLS DO BIKE.
UH, AND THEN CHRISTINA SOCORRO.
UH, CHRISTINA, ARE YOU STILL HERE FOR, UM, GIALLO CYCLING? OKAY.
UM, SO, UH, WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE ON.
UM, I DID SUBMIT ABOUT EIGHT QUESTIONS IN WRITING TO THE STAFF.
I EXPECTED THAT THEY WOULD BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THEM TODAY.
THEY ARE PREPARED TO ANSWER THEM TODAY, BUT THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
I DIDN'T WANNA WASTE A LOT OF TIME ON ALL THOSE QUESTIONS, UM, WHICH IS WHY I SUBMITTED THEM IN ADVANCE SO THAT PERHAPS WE COULD JUST FOCUS ON ONE OR TWO, BUT SINCE THEY'RE NOT, UM, IN PART OF THE PRESENTATION TODAY, UM, ALSO THE MANY QUESTIONS THAT WE ANSWERED, UM, AT LEAST IF YOU COULD ANSWER THOSE IN WRITING, I'D ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT GROWTH IN THE AREA.
THE COUNCILWOMAN HAD SOME GROWTH, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WALKABILITY IN THE AREA.
AND SO, UM, WE'LL LOOK, EXPECT YOU GUYS TO SUBMIT THOSE IN WRITING AND WE'LL JUST MOVE ON TO, WE'LL DO ITEM
[3. 19-6932 Briefing on the Transportation Advisory Board, including an overview of the current structure and potential improvements to become more multimodal. [Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Razi Hosseini, Interim Director, Transportation & Capital Improvements]]
NUMBER FOUR.UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, BRIEFING ON THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA GIVE THAT PRE PRESENTATION,
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IF IT'S RODDY OR ART, AGAIN, ABOUT THE OVERVIEW OF THE CURRENT STRUCTURE AND POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO BECOME MORE MULTIMODAL.ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
UH, SO TODAY I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD, UM, AND POTENTIAL JUST, UH, AN OVERVIEW OF THE RECAP OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE BOARD, AND THEN POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO MAKE IT BECOME A MORE, UH, WELL-ROUNDED, MULTIMODAL, UH, TRANSPORTATION BOARD.
SO THE, THE ADVISORY BOARD WAS CREATED BACK IN THE 1980S.
UM, IT'S REALLY, ITS SOLE PURPOSE WAS TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT FOR VEHICLES FOR HIRE OR TRANSPORTATION SERVICE COMPANIES.
UM, IT, SO THE, THE WAY IT WORKS IS IT'S A SUB, IT'S A ADVISORY BOARD THAT WAS CREATED BACK IN THE EIGHTIES, UM, TO PROVIDE AN, UH, OVERSIGHT FOR TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEES AS WELL AS, UM, REALLY PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VEHICLE FOR HIRE BUSINESS TO, UH, HAVE OVERSIGHT FOR PERMITS AND RECEIVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS NOT WORKING, SORRY, I'M JUST, THIS BATTERY'S GETTING A LITTLE.
UM, IT PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY TO CONDUCT HEARINGS AND ESTABLISH TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR THE, THE VEHICLE FOR HIRE HIGHER BUSINESS.
WHEN THE BOARD WAS BACK AND CREATED, IT HAD SPECIFIC OVERSIGHT OVER THE TAXI CAB INDUSTRY, LIMOUSINES, TOUR OPERATIONS, AS WELL AS, UH, THE HORSE CARRIAGES AND TOW TRUCKS.
HOWEVER, UM, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS SINCE CONTRACTED WITH THE TOWING INDUSTRY.
SO THE BOARD NO LONGER PROVIDES OVERSIGHT OVER TOW TRUCKS.
UM, SOME NEW FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SUCH AS GROUP CYCLES, AS WELL AS PETTY CAPS.
SO NOW THOSE ARE OVERSEEN BY THE BOARD.
UM, ALTHOUGH THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD COMMITTEE DOES NOT, UM, IS NOT SPECIFIC TO THAT MEMBERSHIP, THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE COMMITTEE, YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE LIT, THE SCREEN, UH, IT'S, YOU COULD SEE IT ON THE SCREEN.
UM, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY DIVERSE IN THE MAKEUP, BUT AGAIN, SPECIFIC TO THE VEHICLE FOR HIRE.
SO THERE'S A, A MIX, A MAKEUP OF, UH, TRANSPORTATION CONSUMERS, WHICH ARE THOSE THAT DEPEND ON VEHICLE FOR HIRE SERVICES.
THERE'S ALSO, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF TAXI CAB COMPANIES, SO LARGE PROVIDERS WHICH HAVE OVER 20 VEHICLES AS WELL AS SMALL PROVIDERS, WHICH HAVE UNDER 20 VEHICLES.
THERE'S ALSO MEMBERSHIP MAKEUP OF THE TAXI DE CAB COOPERATIVES, WHICH ARE BASICALLY THE INDIVIDUAL OWNER OP OCCUPANT, UH, OPERATOR.
UH, AND THERE'S ALSO THE, THE TOURS AND THE CARRIAGES AS, AS WELL, UM, GETTING INTO SOME OF THE NON-VOTING COM COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THOSE ARE YOUR CITY DEPARTMENTS.
SO TCI AS WELL AS AVIATION AND C C D O ALL HAVE SEATS.
C V V USED TO HAVE A SEAT UNTIL IT WAS TRANSITIONED TO VISIT SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS VIA, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE, UH, MR. FROST IS HERE TO, TO SPEAK ON.
UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL VACANCIES, YOU'LL SEE THOSE NOTED WITH AN ASTERISK.
UH, SO OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, A QUORUM HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE.
UM, SO WHAT, UH, REALLY AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, UH, GIVEN THAT IT'S TRANSPORTATION HAS CHANGED A LOT SINCE THE 1980S, UM, WE WERE ASKED T C I WAS ASKED TO LOOK AT OPTIONS TO TRANSITION THIS BOARD INTO SOMETHING MORE FOCUSED ON ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
UH, WHAT WE FOUND, JUST IN LOOKING AT SOME SAMPLE AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IS THAT THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT DO HAVE SORT OF THIS WELL-ROUNDED MULTIMODAL ADVISORY BOARD, AS WELL AS SOMES WITH SPECIFIC AREAS OF OVERSIGHT.
AND I'LL JUST TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THOSE.
SO, NEW BRAUNFELS WE LOOKED AT, THEY HAVE A, AN ADVISORY BOARD.
UH, WHILE IT DOES YOUR TRADITIONAL VEHICLE FOR HIRE BUSINESS, IT'S ALSO, UH, SEEMS TO SERVE AS SORT OF A SOUNDING BOARD FOR THEIR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ON, ON THINGS SUCH AS STOP SIGN REQUESTS OR SIGNAL REQUESTS, SOMETIMES AS STAFF WILL EVALUATE THOSE, UH, AND WE CAN'T QUITE GET TO THE SAME, UH, CONCLUSION THAT OUR, OUR COMMUNITY WANTS.
AND SO MAY THE ADVISORY BOARD CAN HELP, UH, PROVIDE SOME OVERSIGHT AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT.
CAN YOU GO BACK ONE MORE? THERE WE GO.
UM, SO AUSTIN AND DENVER HAVE A WELL-ROUNDED BOARD.
THEY'RE BOTH FOCUSED ON VEHICLE FOR HIRE AS WELL AS MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION.
SO THERE IS SOME OVERSIGHT, UH, FOR VEHICLES AS WELL AS BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS.
UH, BOTH SAN JOSE AND PORTLAND HAVE SOME SPECIFIC, UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEES.
SAN JOSE IS FOR BIKES AS WELL AS PEDESTRIANS.
THEY HAVE A BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND PORTLAND HAS A, UH, BIKE, UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND THEN LASTLY, PHOENIX HAS A CITIZENS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED, UH, FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING OVERSIGHT OVER WHAT THEY CALL THEIR T 2050 TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO OUR ESSAY TOMORROW, UH, TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
IT'S THEIR LONG-TERM PLAN, AND THAT BOARD MAKES, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ON FUNDING AND VARIOUS PROGRAMS AND POLICIES.
SO CURRENTLY, AS I MENTIONED, THE ADVISORY BOARD SET UP
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IN THE 1980S, VERY SPECIFIC TO PRIVATE, FOR HIGHER TRANSPORTATION.UH, POTENTIALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE MORE OF AN ADVISORY, UH, BOARD FOCUS ON MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, WHICH WOULD COVER BOTH VEHICLES FOR HIRE AS WELL AS, UH, BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN TRANSIT DISCUSSIONS.
UM, PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO PRESENT AND ALSO GET SOME ADVOCACY AND INPUT FROM THE BOARD, UH, TO SERVE KIND OF AS A TESTING GROUND FOR, UH, GENERAL COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY INPUT.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC PROJECTS OR PROGRAMS, UM, SUBCOMMITTEES COULD BE CREATED FROM THIS OVERALL BOARD TO TACKLE THOSE SPECIFIC CHALLENGES.
SO THE, THE STAFF, THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE COULD ALSO BE CHANGED.
UH, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO INCLUDE INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS, SO THAT WOULD STILL RETAIN SOME OF THE VEHICLE FOR HIRE PROFESSIONALS, UH, BUT ALSO EXPAND THAT TO OTHER, UH, PLANNING AND ENGINEERING PROFESSIONS AS WELL TO PROVIDE A, A COMPLETE, UM, A DIVERSE GROUP THERE ON THE IN INDUSTRY PROFESSIONAL LEVEL.
WE'D ALSO WANT TO HAVE COMMUNITY ADVOCACY ON THE BOARD.
UH, THAT COULD BE THINGS FROM A BIKE OR PEDESTRIAN, UH, ADVOCACY GROUPS AS WELL AS, UH, SOME PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVING THAT REPRESENTATION.
AND THEN LASTLY, PERHAPS, UH, SOME, SOMEONE FROM THE ELDERLY COMMUNITY AS WELL, JUST TO PROVIDE MORE INPUT ON, ON GENERAL TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE CITY STAFF COMPONENT.
SO YOUR TRADITIONAL, UH, T C I, UM, AVIATION, C C D O S A P D COULD HAVE A PRESENCE, BUT THEN ALSO PER PERHAPS EXPANDING THAT TO COVER, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES POTENTIALLY, OR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DEPEND DEPENDING ON THE MAKEUP, UH, AND THE MISSION OF THAT BOARD.
SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO KIND LEVEL SET, WE'LL PROBABLY I THINK TAKE TWO OR THREE HACKS AT THIS TO COME BACK, UM, AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS ON, ON POTENTIALLY THE MAKEUP.
BUT WE FIRST WANTED JUST TO MAKE SURE THE COMMITTEE KNEW ABOUT THE ADVISORY BOARD, THE HISTORY, AND THEN GET SOME FEEDBACK TO STAFF ON, ON WHICH WAY TO GO.
AND I'LL ALSO MENTION WE HAVE FOLKS FROM SS A P D HERE AS WELL THAT CURRENTLY OVERSEE THE BOARD, UH, AND CAN HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, ART, WE DO HAVE SOME CITIZENS HERE TO SPEAK.
I COME TO YOU AS A LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD WHO SERVED IN BOTH A VOTING AND NON-VOTING, UH, CAPACITY AND IS A, UH, PREVIOUS CHAIR.
UM, I SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THE, UH, COMPOSITION AND ROLE OF THE BOARD TO BE REVISITED, AND FOR THREE PRIMARY REASONS.
ONE, UH, RIGHT NOW, AS IT'S STRUCTURED, YOU HAVE MOSTLY DESIGNATED SPOTS ON THAT BOARD, AND EACH COUNCIL PERSON HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, NOMINATE, UH, A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT IF TWO COUNCIL PEOPLE WANT TO, UH, NOMINATE THE MEMBER, A MEMBER TO REPRESENT THE LIMOUSINE INDUSTRY, FOR INSTANCE, ONLY ONE OF THEM WILL BE SELECTED.
AND VERY OFTEN THE COUNCIL PERSON WHOSE RECOMMENDATION IS NOT SELECTED DOESN'T, UH, SELECT ANYBODY AT ALL.
AND THIS RESULTS IN, UH, DIFFICULTIES KEEPING THE COMMITTEE AT FULL STRENGTH.
UH, SOMETIMES WE BARELY HAVE A QUORUM.
SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM AT ALL.
AND WHEN WE DO, THOSE PEOPLE WHO ATTEND REGULARLY HAVE KIND OF AN OUTSIDE INFLUENCE BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO OR THREE OF ONLY FIVE OR SIX RATHER THAN TWO OR THREE OF 10 IF THE ENTIRE, UH, COMMITTEE PLUS THE NON-VOTING REPRESENTATIVES WERE AT FULL STRENGTH.
UH, AND ALSO, UH, SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE NOT QUITE CERTAIN WHAT THE ROLE OF THE COMMITTEE IS, IS A PER IS A COMPLETELY ADVISORY.
DO THEY HAVE A REAL MEANINGFUL SAY? SO DO THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE A MEANINGFUL SAY? SO THAT BECOMES KIND OF UNCLEAR, AND THAT TOO CAN SOMETIMES, UH, MAKE THE COMMITTEES DELIBERATIONS MORE DIFFICULT THAN THEY NEED TO BE.
AND THIRDLY, UH, AS WAS WAS POINTED OUT, THE CONCEPT OF GROUND TRANSPORTATION, UH, INCLUDES A LOT OF TERRITORY.
IT'S NOT EASY FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN THE PAGES INCLUDE TAXIS, UH, HORSE CARRIAGES, UH, POTENTIALLY THE SCOOTERS, UH, PEDESTRIANS, UH, BUSES VIA BUSES, TOUR BUSES, A LOT OF ACTORS HERE IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, UH, RETAIL MERCHANTS, THE EMPLOYERS AND THE VISITORS WHO HAVE TO MAKE THEIR WAY AROUND DOWNTOWN.
SO THERE IS, I THINK, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO REVIEW AND REORGANIZE THE COMMITTEE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE OR HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE.
I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT, UH, CITY STAFF FROM THE GROUND TRANSPORTATION UNIT AND THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF KEEPING THE COMMITTEE INFORMED AND ON TRACK.
BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT EASY GIVEN THE OVERALL, UH, DIFFICULTIES THAT WE NOW HAVE TO FACE.
AND THAT I AND THE STAFF PRESENTATION, WERE ABLE TO OUTLINE TIME.
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ENCOURAGE, THANK YOU, THE, THE GROUP TO DELIBERATE A, UH, UH, REPLACEMENT OR AT LEAST A CHANGE IN THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS NEEDED.AND IF YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL IN ONE COMMITTEE, MAKE TWO.
UH, I'VE BEEN IN THE, UH, INDUSTRY TAX CAB INDUSTRY 39 YEARS SINCE 1980, AND BEEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
ORIGINALLY, I REMEMBER, UH, THE TAX CAB INDUSTRY USED TO VISIT COUNCIL CONSIDERABLY IN ISSUES OF PERMITS AND TRYING TO BECOME INDEPENDENTS.
WE ALL USED TO WORK FOR YELLOW CAB.
AND AFTER THE COUNCIL GOT TIRED OF US, THEY SAID, WELL, LET'S PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN DEVELOP DIALOGUE WITH CITY STAFF AND WE CAN FORMULATE SOME TYPE OF DIRECTION TO ADVISE THE COUNCIL, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE INDUSTRY NEEDS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY, AND THIS IS WHAT THE STAFF NEEDS.
AND, AND IT'S WORKED OUT WELL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UH, I KNOW THINGS, THINGS HAVE CHANGED, BUT, UH, THE TAX GAP INDUSTRY, I, I HAVE TO SAY THERE'S STILL, UH, IT IS IMPORTANT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.
I REPRESENT SMALL COMPANIES, WHICH ARE ABOUT 75 PROVIDERS, AND THEN THERE'S A, A, A YELLOW CAP, WHICH ALSO HAS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE, BUT IT HAS WORKED AS FAR AS, UH, BEING ABLE TO DIFFERENT INTERESTS TO CREATE, UH, PUT THEIR IDEAS ON THE TABLE AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT, UH, POSSIBLY THAT WE SEND TO THE COUNCIL.
IF Y'ALL WANNA EXPAND IT, WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, SO BE IT.
I KNOW THERE'S OTHER INTERESTS THAT, THAT OTHER INTERESTS IN, IN THE CITY THAT NEEDS TO, THAT NEED ALSO DISCUSSION.
I WILL, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, WHATEVER YOU CAN, UH, DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU APPOINT TO THESE, UH, COMMITTEE POSITIONS, TO WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ATTEND THE MEETINGS.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE APPOINTED AND THEN DON'T SHOW UP.
SO THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THEM BEING APPOINTED, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, UH, LIKE MR. FROST SAYS, WE DO HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE QUORUM AND, AND, UH, THAT'S A BIG, UH, PROBLEM AS FAR AS, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE APPOINTED, THEY NEED TO SHOW UP OR, OR THEY SHOULD NOT ACCEPT THE APPOINTMENT.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THAT'S ALL WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM.
LET ME JUST, UH, START BY, UM, THANKING ALL THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS IN THESE INDUSTRIES.
UM, WE KNOW THAT IT'S CHANGING AND PERHAPS WE COULD EXPAND THE OPTIONS OR I GUESS THE, WHAT THESE COMMITTEES PROVIDE, BUT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHO NEEDS TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, I, I CHAIR THE BICYCLE MOBILITY ACTION COMMITTEE THAT REPORTS TO THE M P O, AND I KNOW THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN THAT REPORTS TO THE M P O, UH, BUT WE DON'T, THEY DON'T ADVISE HERE AT THE COUNCIL.
SO WHAT, WHAT MIGHT BE THE FUTURE OF THOSE BOARDS? I KNOW JOSEPH'S HERE, HE'S, UH, OUR NEW, UM, BICYCLE MOBILITY CHAIR.
UM, JOSEPH, YOU WANNA JUST COME STAND UP HERE SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE YOU JUST, JUST STAND HERE 'CAUSE WE CAN'T SEE YOU BEHIND THAT WALL.
YEAH, SO JOSEPH IS OUR CHAIR FOR THE, UM, UH, RATHER THE STAFF FOR THE, UH, BICYCLE MOBILITY.
IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL, UM, ASK, BUT WHAT IS THE ROLE FOR THOSE KIND, FOR THAT KIND OF INPUT? SO WE GIVE INPUT TO THE N P O FOR PROJECTS, BUT NOT HERE FOR PROJECTS.
SO THE, SO THE BICYCLE MOBILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE ARE, AS YOU, AS YOU MENTIONED, SUBCOMMITTEES OF THE OVERALL M P O TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE TWO, THERE'S THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UH, BUT THOSE SERVE AS REGIONAL BOARDS TO PROVIDE, UH, INPUT FOR THE ENTIRE M P O REGION.
SO NOT JUST SPECIFIC TO CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROJECTS, WE HAVE BROUGHT PROJECTS FORWARD TO THOSE BOARDS FOR INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY IF THEY INVOLVE FEDERAL FUNDING.
UH, SO THIS BOARD WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIFIC TO CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UH, IT MAY ALSO NOT JUST BE PROJECT SPECIFIC, IT COULD BE, UH, POLICY SPECIFIC.
SO POTENTIALLY, UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING RELATED TO SA TOMORROW OR, UM, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL POLICY CHANGES, WE COULD VET THOSE OUT AT THE ADVISORY BOARD, UM, UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
UH, AND THEN IF IT HAS A REGIONAL IMPACT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE, WE WOULD VALUE THE INPUT OF THE M P O AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.
SO SIMILAR, BUT DIFFERENT AND MORE SPECIFIC TO THE CITY.
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VERY MUCH.THAT'S, UM, I KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE WE REALLY MAKE ANY DECISIONS, BUT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMITTEE? OH, GO AHEAD MELISSA.
UM, JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE BACKGROUND.
UM, THERE'S A, A LIST OF VOTING MEMBERS AND NON-VOTING MEMBERS.
THE CURRENT VOTING MEMBERS ARE THOSE SPECIFIC TO A DISTRICT? UM, SO LIKE THE TRANS, THE LARGE TAXI CAB IS SPECIFIC TO A DISTRICT.
THEY, THEY'RE EACH, UH, VOTING MEMBER IS APPOINTED BY THE DISTRICT.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO LIVE IN THAT SPECIFIC DISTRICT.
BUT THEY'RE APPOINTED BY THE DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS.
BUT, UM, I'M NOT SURE, IT'S KIND OF A WONKY QUESTION I'M ASKING, BUT, UH, IS IT LIKE IN DISTRICT SIX, DO I HAVE A DESIGNATED, UM, CRITERIA FROM MY, FROM MY APPOINTEE? DO THEY HAVE TO BE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE? OR IS IT LIKE SOMEBODY HAS TO APPOINT THE TAX ACCOUNT PERSON? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M GONNA ASK VALERIE OR GARY, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP, JUST MAKE SURE I DON'T MISSPEAK, BUT, AND THAT WAY THEY'RE HIDDEN BEHIND THE COLUMN TOO.
SO,
MY NAME IS VALERIE ESPARZA AND I'M THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES MANAGER WITH SS A P D.
I OVERSEE, UM, THE GROUND TRANSPORTATION UNIT AND THE LIAISON TO THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD.
SO WHEN A COUNCIL MEMBER MAKES A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE COMMITTEE, IT GOES THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
AND NOW WHETHER IT BE ROBERT GONZALEZ WITH A SMALL CAB COMPANY THAT IS APPOINTED BY DISTRICT FIVE, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO SAY, I LIKE ROBERT GONZALEZ TO REPRESENT THE SMALL CAB COMPANIES.
AND THEN THEY PUT THAT RECOMMENDATION FORWARD TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IF THE POSITION IS AVAILABLE, THEN IT, IT GOES THROUGH THE COUNCIL PROCESS.
SO THE PARTICULAR, I THINK THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION IS THE PARTICULAR, UH, CRITERIA.
THE PARTICULAR POSITION IS SPECIFIC TO A DISTRICT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, IT'S NOT ASSIGNED TO A DISTRICT? NO, MA'AM.
WE HAVE THE, THE SECTION OF VOTING MEMBERS THAT MAKE UP THE COMMITTEE.
AND IF A COUNCIL MEMBER HAS A CONSUMER THAT COMES AND SAYS, HEY, I WANNA SERVE ON THIS BOARD, THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE THE AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD AND, AND REC MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
SO IS IT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW OR MAYBE OF SUGGESTIONS TO CHANGE THIS, THESE, THIS LIST OR TO, I MEAN, 'CAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE OR FUTURE ADDITIONS, UM, AN ADVISORY ROLE FOR MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, DOES THAT MEAN THAT'S REPLACING ANOTHER POSITION OR WE'RE ADDING TO IT? SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE'D LIKE TO GET IS WHAT DOES THE COMMITTEE FEEL IS AN APPROPRIATE REPRESENTATION TO COVER ALL ASPECTS.
UM, WHAT IF, IF WE END UP MOVING SOMETHING FORWARD, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH FULL COUNSEL TO REVISE THE ORDINANCES THAT ARE IN PLACE.
UH, SO IT IS ON THE TABLE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
UM, THAT'S SOME OF THE INPUT WE'LL WANT TO GET AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON.
UM, UBER AND LYFT, WHERE WOULD THEY BE IN THIS LIST HERE? SO, SO TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANIES ARE ACTUALLY GOVERNED BY THE STATE.
UM, SO THERE'S A STATE STATUTE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT BACK, UH, TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AGO.
UH, SO THEY'RE GOVERNED BY THE STATE LEVEL AND, AND REALLY THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE OVERSIGHT OF THIS COMMITTEE.
SO, UM, I KNOW THAT WE, UH, I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK TO, TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE REDO THIS.
UM, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL REQUESTED THIS, I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN BEFORE HER, AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCILMAN WOMAN VERAN, WHO USED TO BE ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
BUT, UM, WE KNOW THAT FOR A LONG TIME, JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, IT WAS PRIMARILY ABOUT TAX, THE TAXI CAB INDUSTRY AND, AND THOSE KIND OF INDUSTRIES, TAXI CABS AND LIMOS.
UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TOWING WAS HEAVY, BUT I THINK THAT THE DIALOGUE FOR TRANSPORTATION IS CHANGING.
SO WE KNOW THAT IT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, UM, SINCE SOME OF THESE ISSUES ARE, IT'S NOT, THEY'RE STILL VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY, BUT FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE, UM, PERHAPS EXPANDING THEM.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S BEEN LARGELY FACILITATED BY S A P D, WHICH IS WHAT, UM, THE YOUNG LADY, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? DENISE.
UM, SHE, UH, IT WAS LARGELY UNDER S A P D, BUT PERHAPS IN A DIFFERENT SCENARIO IT MIGHT GO UNDER TRANSPORTATION.
UH, MAYBE THEY WOULD REPORT TO THIS COMMITTEE VERSUS THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN JUST HAVING DIFFERENT USERS, UH, AS PARTICIPATING MEMBERS BECAUSE LIKELY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE VOTING MEMBERS AND THE NON-VOTING MEMBERS, BUT WHAT WERE THEY VOTING ON? SO AN EXAMPLE, AND, AND I'LL ASK YOU GUYS TO JUMP IN, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF PERMITS AVAILABLE FOR TAXIS OR OTHER INDUSTRIES IS A, AN EXAMPLE OF ONE.
UM, YOU GUYS WANNA, GENERALLY THE TAB WOULD TAKE UP ISSUES, UM, WITH CHAPTER 33 AND
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ANY REVISIONS TO CHAPTER 33.UM, WHEN THE TNCS FIRST CAME INTO SAN ANTONIO, THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD DID WORK OUT, UM, AN AGREEMENT FOR THE, THE TNCS TO OPERATE HERE.
UM, WE ATTEMPTED TO INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE VEHICLE BEHIND OUR FABRIC HEARING SAN ANTONIO.
UM, RECENTLY THE INDEPENDENT OWNER OPERATOR PERMITS THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD, WAS THE BOARD FOR CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TO SEE WHAT WOULD WORK WITHIN THEIR INDUSTRY, BECAUSE WE CONSIDER ONE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
SO PRIMARILY IT WAS SURROUNDING, UM, CHAPTER 33 AND ALL OF THE REGULATIONS, UH, PERTAINING TO THAT.
BUT THEY DID VOTE AND THEN IT CAME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
OR WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE PROCESS? SO THE, THE WAY THE BOARD IS MADE UP NOW, OKAY.
UM, THE WAY THE BOARD IS CURRENTLY STRUCTURED IS THE ADVISORY BOARD ADVISES THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
THE CHIEF OF POLICE WILL THEN, UH, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
AND THEN IT WOULD GO BEFORE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY.
PUBLIC SAFETY WOULD THEN HEAR THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MOVE IT FORWARD TO B SESSION FOR DISCUSSION OR SEND IT BACK TO STAFF WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, AND THEN IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO COUNCIL AFTER B SESSION.
SO WAS THERE REGULAR VOTING, UH, THAT OCCURRED WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO GET A QUORUM, UM, AND THERE ARE ISSUES, UM, THAT ARE, ARE BEING ADDRESSED AT THAT TIME? YES.
UH, WE DO, UH, REQUEST THE SUPPORT, UH, FROM THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY REPORT ON, UM, ANY ISSUES THAT ARE GOING FORWARD TO, UH, THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
SINCE, UH, BECAUSE MANY OF OUR COMMITTEES ARE NON-VOTING AND THEN, AND THEY'RE JUST ADVISORY IN NATURE, BUT THIS ONE ACTUALLY VOTED YES.
SO THEY, THEY VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO SAY, YES, WE RECOMMEND, NO, WE DO NOT RECOMMEND, OR WE RECOMMEND WITH THESE CAVEATS.
I WONDER IF THIS IS NOT A MESSAGE ANSWER FOR THE CITY CLERK.
SO, SO WHEN, WHEN OUR, WHEN COMMITTEES MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, DO THEY VOTE? SO COUNCILWOMAN, I'LL JUST ADD, I, I THINK IF WE'RE LOOKING AT REVAMPING THE BOARD, WE, WE COULD ALTER THAT TO BE, UH, MORE OF AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WOULD BRING FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO EITHER THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE OR THE, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE FOR FORMAL ACTION.
SO, UM, IT MAY BE A VOTE OF THAT ADVISORY BOARD, BUT NOT NECESSARILY LIKE A, A BINDING VOTE.
WE WOULD BRING IT FORWARD, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS IN THE POTENTIAL CHANGE.
SO IT'S BEEN ON A WHILE SINCE I SAT ON A COMMITTEE, BUT THEY WERE ALL ADVISORY IN NATURE, SO I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION.
LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE ACTUALLY VOTE.
SO DO WE HAVE A YEAH, MY NAME IS, I'M SHAW WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ADVISORY BOARDS VOTE ON MATTERS THAT ARE BROUGHT BEFORE OR STAFF BRINGS MATTERS, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION BEFORE THE ADVISORY BOARD.
AND THEY DO VOTE, UH, BUT THEN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OR WHAT THEY APPROVE IS TAKEN, UH, BEFORE A COUNCIL COMMITTEE OR CITY COUNCIL.
WE DO VOTE IN BMAC, SO, UM, WE DO VOTE IN BMAC, BUT IT, IT, I THINK SOME ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
MOSTLY ADVISORY AND SOME ACTUALLY HAVE VOTES.
WELL YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UM, SO WE'LL JUST LOOK FORWARD TO SOME MORE FEEDBACK.
WE KNOW THAT, UM, TRANSPORTATION IS A BIG ISSUE IN OUR CITY.
UH, AND SO PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, UM, AS WE SORT OF EXPAND THE WORK THAT WE DO HERE RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION, WE KNOW THAT THIS, THIS, UH, COMMITTEE WOULD LIKELY CHANGE AS WELL.
SO, UM, WE'LL MAYBE TRY AGAIN, SEE WHERE THE PULSE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO GET, UM, OTHER MEMBERS INVOLVED AND SEE IF THAT DOESN'T HELP US GET A QUORUM.
UM, AND THEN JUST SORT OF DISCUSS ISSUES LIKE HOW WOULD THE ISSUES THEN BE BROUGHT TO THE COMMITTEE? THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, QUESTION.
COUNCIL, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS, I THINK OUR NEXT STEP IS, IS TO PUT TOGETHER A GROUP OF, OF STAKEHOLDERS, UH, 'CAUSE WE'D LIKE THEM, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF FOLKS THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN THIS, THAT ARE ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT WORK WITH THIS COMMITTEE REGULARLY.
SO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IT IS WE DO GOING FORWARD, UH, WE, WE DON'T LOSE SOMETHING.
UH, I'D ALSO LIKE FOR, YOU KNOW, TIM HAYES TO, TO BE INVOLVED, USE OUR, OUR NEW, UH, MOBILITY OFFICER, UH, POSSIBLY LOOK TO TALK TO THE ENGINEERING COMMITTEE ARCHITECT COMMUNITY AS WELL TO GET THEIR FEEDBACKS ON, ON WHAT THIS COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, COULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, AFTER HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
AND I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE, UH, TO GET YOUR INPUT AT THAT POINT.