Sep 18, 2019 Governance Committee on 2019-09-18 10:00 AM

OKAY.

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WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.

UM, TIME IS 10:20 AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

I WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER SAN DEVAL WILL NOT BE HERE.

SHE IS ILL COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT.

AND MAYOR NURENBERG HERE.

MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.

UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH

[1. Approval of the minutes from the City Council Governance Committee Meeting on August 28, 2019.]

SO MOVED THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES OF AUGUST 28TH, 2019.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM TWO.

[2. A briefing and possible action on a Council Consideration Request (CCR) from Councilman Manny Pelaez to develop options to enhance protection and security to tenants at apartment complexes surrounding university and college campuses. [María Villagómez, Deputy City Manager; William P. McManus, Chief of Police]]

MARIA, GO AHEAD.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE.

UM, ON JULY, UH, 12 OF 2019, THERE WAS A C C R, UH, SPONSORED BY COUNCILMAN MANNY ELAS ON STUDENT HOUSING SAFETY INITIATIVE.

THE C C R UH, CALLS TO DEVELOP OPTIONS TO ENHANCE PROTECTION AND SECURITY TO TENANTS AT APARTMENT COMPLEXES SURROUNDING UNI, UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

THE C C R CALLS FOR TWO, UH, PARTS.

ONE IS FOR THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COORDINATE WITH UNIVERSITY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND APARTMENT MANAGEMENT TO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, UH, IN THESE LOCATIONS.

THE SECOND COMPONENT OF THE C C R IS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO CONSIDER THE CREATION OF MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR APARTMENTS RELATED TO SECURITY CAMERAS, ARCHIVING OF VIDEO, INTERROGATE MAINTENANCE, AND LIGHTING AND PARKING LOTS.

SINCE JUNE OF 2019, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING SPECIFICALLY WITH U T S A MAIN, MAIN CAMPUS AND ALSO WITH THEIR, UH, U T S A POLICE TO DEVELOP A STRATEGY TO FOCUS ON ACHIEVING THE GOALS OF THE C C R, WHICH IS REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AROUND THIS, UH, UH, U T S A.

SO, UH, THERE'S A STRATEGY THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, UH, WORKING WITH U T S A POLICE.

ONE IS TO HAVE INTERACTION WITH PARENTS AND STUDENTS ON SPECIFIC, UH, UH, DATES DURING, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, SUCH AS, UH, MOVING DAYS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT TO EDUCATE AND BRING AWARENESS TO, AGAIN, THE PARENTS AND THE STUDENTS ABOUT SAFETY, UH, IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE CAMPUS AS WELL.

UH, THE SECOND PORTION OF THIS STRATEGY IS TO WORK WITH APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND WE'VE DONE THAT, THOSE AROUND, UH, U T S A MAIN CAMPUS, AND TO COMMUNICATE WITH APARTMENT MANAGERS TO DISCUSS PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS, UH, THAT ARE BROUGHT FORWARD BY STUDENTS AND ALSO BASED ON THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT SS A P D IS INVESTIGATING, TO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND TRAINING AND ESTABLISH CLEAR LINES OF COMMUNICATION WHEN THERE'S ACTIVITY HAPPENING AT THIS LOCATIONS.

SO THEY CAN REPORTED, UH, TO U T SS A, UH, PD AND ALSO TO SAN ANTONIO, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THE LAST COMPONENT OF THE STRATEGY IS, UH, AN ENHANCED COORDINATION BETWEEN S A P D AND U T S A P D, UH, COORDINATION AND CALL RESPONSE COORDINATION FOR, UH, FOR SS A P D TO HAVE ACCESS TO A SAFETY APPLICATION THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY U T S A WHEN STUDENTS CAN TAKE PICTURES AND RECORD, UH, SU SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY.

SO S A P D NOW HAS ACCESS TO THAT APPLICATION.

UM, ALSO COORDINATION OF AS CITIZENS ON PATROL CLASSES BETWEEN S A P D AND U T SS A PD D AND INFORMATION, UH, DATA SHARING, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR.

SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE IS TO CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY OF THE RESULTS OF THIS, UH, THREE PART STRATEGY TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

AND, UH, THAT POINT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF A POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF THE PROGRAM TO OTHER COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ACROSS THE CITY.

THAT, UH, PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION WILL BE BASED ON A CRIME ANALYSIS OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITHIN ONE MILES, UH, RADIOS OF LOCAL COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS WITH HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF CRIME AND THEN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS STRATEGY.

THE SECOND COMPONENT OF THE C C R

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SO CURRENTLY TO GIVE YOU SOME, UH, BACKGROUND, OUR BUILDING CODE INCLUDES MINIMUM LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS AND IT ALSO, UH, REQUIRES SOME, UM, MAINTENANCE ON THE FIRE CODE FOR ENTRY GATES AS LONG AS THIS ENTRY GATES ARE IN, INTO APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE PART OF THE PROPERTIES FIRE LANES.

SO THE, THE FIRE CODE REQUIRES MAINTENANCE OF THOSE GATES.

SO, UH, CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY REQUIREMENTS ON ANY OF OUR CODES CONCERNING SECURITY CAMERAS AND THE ARCH ARCHIVING A VIDEO, UH, THAT IS RECORDED THROUGH THOSE DEVICES.

OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, SINCE THE INITIATION OF THE C C R BACK IN JUNE, ENGAGED WITH THE SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AND DISCUSS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE C C R AND POTENTIAL ENHANCEMENTS.

WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS IS TO EXPAND THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP, UH, NOT ONLY THE SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, BUT ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, UH, TO DISCUSS WHETHER THEY COULD BE POTENTIAL CODE CHANGES THAT COULD PROVIDE IMPROVED PROTECTION AND SECURITY TO TENANTS AT APARTMENT COMPLEXES SURROUNDING SPECIFICALLY UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES.

AS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, ANY POTENTIAL, UH, BUILDING CODE RELATED AMENDMENTS WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND POSSIBLY INCLUDED IN THE 2020 BUILDING CODE UPDATE.

OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS PLANNING TO DO AN UPDATE AS PART OF OUR 2020 FISCAL YEAR.

SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

AND, UM, CHIEF MCMANUS AND MICHAEL SHANNON ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALONG WITH MYSELF.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARIA.

UM, I THINK COUNCILMAN PALAI IS ON HIS WAY, SO I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR TO HIM WHEN HE GETS HERE.

BUT, UH, WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, MARIA, I JUST HAVE A QUES I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS.

MY FIRST ONE IS, I KNOW THAT WE SAID WE HAVEN'T MET YET WITH THE SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.

WHAT IS THAT TIMELINE? 'CAUSE I, I'M IMAGINING WE'VE AT LEAST STARTED DISCUSSIONS OR STARTED BUILDING OUR STAKEHOLDER GROUP, OUR COMMITTEE.

SURE, I'LL TAKE THAT.

UH, COUNCILWOMAN.

SO, UM, I'VE HAD SOME INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.

WE MEET WITH THEM ON A LOT OF THINGS AS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

UM, AND, UH, WHAT THEY, THEY HAVE SEEN THIS, WE'VE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.

UH, THE, THE, OUR IDEA IS TO WORK WITH THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AND THEN START LOOKING AT WHEN WE, WHEN WE ARE IN OUR 2020 BUILDING CODE UPDATE, WHICH IS ALL OF OUR BUILDING RELATED CODES, IF THERE ARE CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO ADD AS MINIMUMS TO THESE FACILITIES, THEY'D BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT.

SO, UH, OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, WE'LL IDENTIFY WHO THAT STAKEHOLDER GROUP WOULD EXPAND TO, AND THEN START WORKING THROUGH THAT, UH, KIND OF MEETING PROCESS AND BUILDING THAT INTO OUR CODE UPDATE NEXT YEAR.

GREAT.

'CAUSE THAT WAS PART OF MY NEXT QUESTION.

I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT THAT STAKEHOLDER GROUP LOOKED LIKE AND WHO WAS PARTICIPATING.

SO, THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN I KNOW THAT THEY INDICATED INITIALLY THAT THEY, AS AN ORGANIZATION DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMPEL APARTMENT COMPLEXES TO IMPLEMENT SUBTRACTION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS A, IF THERE WOULD BE A BACKUP PLAN THEN, OR IF THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO.

I, I THINK THAT WILL ALL COME OUT OF THAT, THAT THOSE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, THEY DID, UH, THEY DID TALK ABOUT SOME INITIAL CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE, UH, BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY WILLING AND, AND ABLE TO, TO MEET WITH US AND TALK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN BE DONE AND MAYBE WHAT VERSUS WHAT CAN'T.

SO.

GREAT.

AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION, AND IT'S ACTUALLY MORE OF A COMMENT.

SO YOU ALL MENTIONED, MARIA MENTIONED THE U T S A, THE APP THAT THEY HAVE.

THAT'S JUST SUCH A GREAT INNOVATION, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THEY'RE GONNA SHARE IT EVENTUALLY WITH THE OTHER COLLEGE CAMPUSES, UM, AROUND THE CITY UNIVERSITY AND COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

WE CAN EXPLORE THAT.

UH, POSSIBILITY.

COUNCILMAN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE RIGHT NOW, THE, THE APP IS JUST FOR, UH, U T S A STUDENTS AND THEIR CAMPUSES.

GREAT.

IT'D BE GREAT IF SOME STUDENTS COULD BUILD IT AT OTHER UNIVERSITIES AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU, MARIA.

THANK YOU, MIKE.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER PAL.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE COMMENT ON THE C C R? I WOULD.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE REASON THIS CAME ABOUT WAS BECAUSE, UM, WE HAD A FEW MURDERS AROUND U T S A.

WE'VE GOT, UM, CAR BREAK-INS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, WE'VE GOT HOME INVASIONS THAT HAPPEN.

I DUNNO IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT WHERE THREE MEN SHOWED UP TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, SHOT IT UP, AND THEN RAN AWAY.

AND THEN A FEW DAYS LATER, ONE OF THOSE MEN, UM, TRIED TO ASSASSINATE ONE OF OUR, UH, POLICE OFFICERS, UH, POLICE OFFICER WAS SHOT, AND, UH, THANKFULLY MANAGED TO SHOOT BACK.

UH, WE, THE FASTER U T S A GROWS, THE MORE BAD ELEMENTS ARE ATTRACTED, UH, TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO BAD THINGS TO GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE.

AND SO WHEN WE STARTED DIVING DEEP INTO IT AND SPEAKING TO UTSA'S SECURITY, THEY COMPLAINED THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OFFSITE, UM, YOU KNOW, STUDENT HOUSING FACILITIES.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT LACK OF A RELATIONSHIP, THERE'S VERY LITTLE COORDINATION BETWEEN THEM.

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BUT ALSO PHOTOS, VIDEO, RIGHT? BETTER, LIKE I, I WROTE THE C C R AND WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT IS OUR FRIENDS AT THE APARTMENT, UH, ASSOCIATION STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND THEY SAID, LOOK, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US TOO.

WE'VE ALSO GOT KIDS WHO GO TO U T S A, WE GET IT AND WE'VE GOT AN ADDITIONAL PROBLEM.

AND THAT IS THAT SOME OF THESE OPERATORS JUST SIMPLY AREN'T OUR MEMBERS.

UM, AND WE WILL ROPE THEM IN AND WE CAN BE AGENTS OF CHANGE.

I WAS FLOORED, UM, AT THAT OFFER OF HELP, BUT EVEN MORE FLOORED WHEN MARIA AND HER TEAM CAME AND SAID, CARROT VERSUS STICK APPROACH IS PROBABLY THE BEST, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THIS INSTANCE.

AND, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN, LET'S TRY TO, YOU KNOW, USE IT A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH AS OPPOSED TO A REGULATORY APPROACH.

AND I THINK THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING.

SO I'M, I'M HOPING THAT I'LL GET YOUR SUPPORT TODAY.

UH, I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND FOR THESE KIDS.

AND ALSO, UM, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO BY, BY THESE STAKEHOLDERS.

SO THANKS, MARIA, FOR ALL YOUR HELP.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER PIAS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M INTRIGUED BY THE APP THAT WAS INTRODUCED BY THE, UH, CHIEF OUT OUT AT U T S A WHEN I WAS AT A, A MEETING JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.

AND I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, OUR CHIEF, UH, HOW DO WE SEE THAT APP AND THE INFORMATION FROM IT INTEGRATING WITH HOW WE DISPATCH PEOPLE AND DOES IT, DO YOU THINK IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT, IT MAY HAVE A BROADER IMPLICATION IN OUR COMMUNITY IN OTHER WAYS? I THINK IT COULD HAVE A BROADER IMPLICATION, BUT AS FAR AT AS FAR AS YOUR FIRST QUESTION GOES, UH, HOW WOULD IT AFFECT OUR DISPATCH? UH, THAT TYPE OF APP IS NOT SO MUCH FOR, UH, WOULDN'T REPLACE A CALL TO NINE ONE ONE, OR A CALL TO ONE ONE OR A CALL TO THE, TO THE REGULAR NUMBER.

THAT IS MORE FOR, UM, A FOLLOW UP TYPE OF, UH, UM, UM, PROBLEM.

UH, SO SOMETHING THAT THE, THE SAFE OFFICERS MIGHT HANDLE, OR, OR, UM, POSSIBLY THE, THE OFFICER IN THE, IN THE WORKS THAT DISTRICT.

SO A 3 1 1 RATHER THAN A 9 1 1, SO TO SPEAK.

SURE.

I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FOR MORE FOR OBSERVATE OBSERVING PROBLEMS IN THE, IN THE, IN THE COMPLEX OR WHEREVER IT MAY BE.

AND, AND THEN THE FOLLOWUP WOULD BE TO THE SAFE OFFICERS, UH, IN THE AREA WHO WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT IT AND WORK WITH U T S A POLICE TO ADDRESS IT.

BUT THE BROADER IMPLICATION, JUST FROM WHAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT, I, I, I THINK THE BROADER IMPLICATION IS, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, GARCIA'S COMMENT ABOUT, UH, SPREADING IT AROUND OTHER CAMPUSES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR ROD.

REMEMBER ROD, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ AND I, UH, PUT TOGETHER AN INITIATIVE TO START A UNIVERSITY DISTRICT DISCUSSION TO REALLY EXAMINE BUILDING CODES AND HOW THE CONTEXT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE UNIVERSITIES MAIN CAMPUS AND DOWNTOWN CAMPUS WERE CONTRIBUTING TO, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE ACTIVITIES AND MAYBE EVEN SOMETIMES NOT SO, UH, POSITIVE ACTIVITIES.

WHERE DID THAT DISCUSSION GO? 'CAUSE I REMEMBER WE MOVED IT INTO KIND OF THE BROADER COMMUNITY PLANNING DISCUSSIONS OF SA TOMORROW, BUT ARE, ARE BUILDING CODE, UH, ADJUSTMENTS BEING CONTEMPLATED AS IT RELATES TO UNIVERSITIES WITHIN SA TOMORROW? YOU KNOW, I MAYOR, I NEED TO GO BACK AND, AND LOOK AT, UH, IN MY NOTES TO SEE WHAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT.

I, I VAGUELY REMEMBER THE, THE CONVERSATION.

UH, OKAY.

BUT I, I'LL LOOK AT THAT AND GET BACK WITH YOU.

YEAH.

'CAUSE I, I THINK SOME OF THESE THINGS CAN DOVETAIL, UH, BECAUSE PART OF WHAT WAS WE WERE AFTER, UH, IN THAT INITIATIVE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAD POSITIVE OUTLETS AROUND THERE.

AND I KNOW THAT, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, PAL'S WORK ON THIS BECAUSE ANYONE WHO'S BEEN IN AROUND THE DISTRICT, A AREA KNOWS THE ASPEN COMPLEX HAS BEEN A, A MAGNET FOR CRIME.

AND WE GET A TON OF CALLS OUT THERE, AT LEAST WE DID YEARS AGO.

AND SO, UH, OUR WORK TO BOLSTER PUBLIC SAFETY THROUGH POLICING IS IMPORTANT, BUT ALSO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES AROUND THERE, DEVELOPMENT AROUND THERE THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE ALTERNATIVES FOR FOLKS TO HAVE A GOOD TIME, BE ENTERTAINED.

UM, SO AT ANY RATE, JUST WOULD LIKE AN, AN UPDATE ON THAT AS IT RELATES TO THIS WORK.

BUT CERTAINLY THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

SO, UM, THE UPDATE FROM COUNCIL NOW, OR FROM THE STAFF WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE NEXT.

DO YOU NEED ANY ACTION FROM US ON THIS, MARIA? UH, YES.

MAYOR, THE, THE ACTION WOULD BE, UH,

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IN THAT ANY CHANGES, IF ANY, THAT RESULT TO THE CITY CODE FROM THE CONVERSATIONS WITH DEPARTMENT COMPLEXES AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS BE BROUGHT TO THE, UH, PLANNING, UH, COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

UH, DO YOU NEED ANY, UH, ACTION ON THE PART OF THE COMMITTEE TO DO THAT, OR WE JUST MOVING FORWARD? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MO UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR I MOVE MOVING THIS FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

I MOVE, OKAY.

SECOND, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND ON, UM, MOVING ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, FOR UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

IN THE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, I'M ITEM

[3. A briefing and possible action on a Council Consideration Request (CCR) from Councilman Courage to amend Section 21-52 (a) (6) of the Local Government Code to prohibit construction during specific times when near residential properties [Roderick J. Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Michael Shannon, Director, Development Services]]

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST FROM COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE TO AMEND SECTION 21 DASH 52 SUBSECTION A SUBSECTION SIX OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TO PROHIBIT CONSTRUCTION DURING SPECIFIC TIMES WHEN NEAR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

GO AHEAD, MIKE.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AGAIN.

SO, UH, I'M HERE TO JUST TALK ABOUT A, A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST THAT WERE RECEIVED IN AUGUST, SPONSORED BY COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

AND I KNOW HE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AS WELL.

BUT, UM, THE, THE PROPOSAL IS TO HAVE US LOOK AT AND AMEND OUR CITY'S, UH, NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS IN CHAPTER 21 OF OUR CITY CODE.

AND, UH, SPECIFICALLY TO LOOK AT MODIFYING CONSTRUCTION HOURS OR THE AVAILABLE CONSTRUCTION HOURS, UM, ACTUALLY BETWEEN SEVEN AND SEVEN ON WEEKDAYS AND SEVEN TO NINE, UH, 7:00 PM TO 9:00 AM ON ON THE WEEK WEEKENDS.

UM, I THINK, UH, THIS STEMMED OUT OF SOME COMPLAINTS THAT, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION AROUND SOME RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR EVEN APARTMENT COMPLEX WAS CAUSING, YOU KNOW, SOME REALLY UNNECESSARY, UM, DISTURBANCES AT NIGHT.

OUR CURRENT NOISE CODE, UM, HAS SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT, UH, CONSTRUCTION HOURS, BUT IT REALLY FOCUSES ON DECIBEL LEVELS.

UH, AND EVEN EVEN AT A D D B A D D B A, UH, SOME OF THAT CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY CAN BE A NUISANCE.

SO, UM, THE C C R UH, INDICATES THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT CHANGING SOME OF THOSE, UH, UH, REQUIREMENTS POSSIBLY.

UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, LOOK AT ENFORCEMENT, UH, METHODS AS WELL.

SO AS THE CITY'S BUILDING OFFICIAL, IF WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION, UH, COMPANY THAT REALLY ISN'T, UH, FOLLOWING THE RULES, UH, HAVING SOME MORE ENFORCEMENT TECHNIQUES, NOT ALONG WITH SS A P D, BUT POSSIBLY THINGS LIKE PULLING THEIR PERMITS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO, UH, AS WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, UH, CERTAINLY WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS AS I KNOW THE COUNCILMAN HAS WITH SOME OF OUR CONSTRUCTION GROUPS.

UH, WE DO NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH, UH, AND WE, WE, WE PROPOSE PUTTING A TASK FORCE TOGETHER, OUR CONSTRUCTION GROUPS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, UH, AND WORK TOGETHER AS TO WHAT EFFECTIVE CODE CHANGES WE CAN MAKE TO, TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTION, UH, TO OUR NOISE ORDINANCE AND OUR CONSTRUCTION ORDINANCES.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANNA BE CAREFUL AND NOT JUST TOTALLY STOP DEVELOPMENT.

I MEAN, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR INDUSTRY AND OUR CITY, OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.

UH, SO WE THINK THERE'S A WAY TO GET THERE BY WORKING TOGETHER.

SO, UH, WE THINK THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE IDENTIFYING, UH, THE STAKEHOLDERS SIMILAR TO, UH, THE APARTMENT ONE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

WE'LL HAVE A BUNCH OF STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, I'M SURE, AND THEN BRING THIS BACK TO OUR PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.

UH, WHEN THAT'S DONE, WE EXPECT IT TO TAKE A FEW MONTHS EARLY INTO THE, THE NEXT YEAR.

AND, UM, UH, THAT'S OUR PROPOSAL.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, MIKE.

THIS WAS, UH, UH, ORIGINATED THROUGH A C C R PROPOSED BY COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE, YOU WANNA INTRODUCE THIS? YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR.

UH, AND THANK YOU MIKE.

UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THROUGH, UH, CALLS AND CONCERNS FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE, UH, FOR CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS GOING ON AT, UH, YOU KNOW, FOUR IN THE MORNING AND, UH, MIDNIGHT AT NIGHT.

UH, AND IT WAS PRIMARILY AROUND CONSTRUCTION TAKING PLACE IN, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEXES BEING BUILT NEAR RIGHT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.

IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD HEARD FROM, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE WHO SAID, WELL, YEAH, WHEN THEY DID SOME COMMERCIAL AND, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION, WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, FELT LIKE THERE WAS REALLY NOISY AT ODD HOURS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, WE DID SOME CHECKING AROUND AND WE'VE CONFIRMED WITH OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE IN OTHER DISTRICTS THAT THEY'VE HAD SIMILAR COMPLAINTS AND EXPERIENCED SOME OF THE SAME THINGS.

UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CRACKING ROCK AT TWO IN THE MORNING TO BUILD FOUNDATIONS, UH, WHICH SEEMS TO ME TO BE TOTALLY UNREASONABLE.

HOWEVER, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, MY STAFF AND I, TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BUILDING COMMUNITY AND IN OUR ORIGINAL C C R.

AND IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ALMOST ALWAYS NEEDS TO BE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE.

IF YOU'RE

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WE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT, IT'S VALUABLE EVERYWHERE.

UH, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK ON WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED ADDITIONAL LIMITATIONS ON THAT KIND OF CONSTRUCTION.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE WHO'VE COMPLAINED AND THE POLICE HAVE COME OUT AND THEY'VE MEASURED THE, THE, UH, SOUND AT THAT TIME, BUT AT THAT TIME, THEY CAME OUT, THERE WAS NO VIOLATION.

NOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA STAND AROUND FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF AND LISTEN TO SEE IF THERE IS MORE VIOLATION 15 MINUTES FROM NOW OR A HALF AN HOUR FROM NOW, OR IF THERE WAS VIOLATIONS AN HOUR BEFORE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO SIMPLY SAY, CALL, AND THEY'LL COME OUT AND THEY'LL FIND OUT IF THERE'S A VIOLATION.

UH, AND SO WE WANT TO TRY AND GET THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO PRETTY MUCH UNDERSTAND THE, THE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING AND MAKE SOME SELF ADJUSTMENT.

UH, AND SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE WAY WE MOVE FORWARD RIGHT NOW.

UH, I, I KNOW ONE AREA OF CONCERN IS, FOR EXAMPLE, LAYING CONCRETE FOUNDATIONS.

IT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE EARLY IN THE MORNING BECAUSE, UH, YOU HAVE SO MANY LOADS OF CONCRETE THAT NEEDS TO BE DELIVERED AND POURED WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE, UH, IT AFFECTS ADVERSELY THE, THE FOUNDATION WORK.

UM, AND WE WANNA LOOK AND FIND ARE THERE OTHER EXCEPTIONS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THOSE PARTICULAR EXCEPTIONS, OR THAT THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THOSE KINDS OF EXCEPTIONS FOR CERTAIN CONSTRUCTION DOWN THE LINE.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE SUCH A BROAD LIST OF EXCEPTIONS THAT IT CONTINUES THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING.

SO I THINK THAT'S OUR GOAL.

AND, UM, I, I RESPECT, UH, THE BUILDING COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO WANNA SIT DOWN WITH US AND HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FORWARD.

UM, AND SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A PROCESS.

THE HOURS WE'VE SET, UH, SEEM REASONABLE, BUT THERE CAN BE SOME FLEXIBILITY BASED ON WHAT WE FIND OUT THROUGH OUR EXAMINATION.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ.

THANK YOU.

UM, UH, MIKE, WHAT ABOUT OUR, OUR CITY, UM, OUR CITY CONTRACTORS THAT DO STREET WORK AND STUFF? WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE POLICY FOR THAT? UH, THE NOISE ORDINANCE FOR OUR CITY CONTRACTORS AND MAYBE, I THINK RAZZIES HERE, SO MAYBE HE CAN HELP ME OUT HERE.

THERE IS SOME EXCEPTIONS FOR CITY CONTRACTORS AND, AND, AND ACTUALLY WHAT'S VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT, UM, LIKE STREET WORK AND STUFF, AND WE'VE ALREADY COMMUNICATED WITH RAZZIE, IS THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, TO PUSH THAT NIGHT WORK DURING THE DAY BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THAT WORK DOES HAPPEN AT NIGHT TO EASE THE TRAFFIC ISSUES.

SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF RAZZIE YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.

UH, BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE, AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE COUNCILMAN ABOUT THIS, WE DON'T WANT THIS TO AFFECT, UH, STREET WORK AND RIGHT OF WAY WORK AND PUSH THAT TO THE DAY WHEN THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC.

SO I THINK, SO THOSE ARE TOTALLY SEPARATE ISSUES.

SO YOU COULD STILL DO SEPARATE, DO STREET WORK AT NIGHT? YES.

EVEN IF IT'S AN AREA, THAT'S WHAT OUR, THAT'S WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS.

I THINK.

UH, REI YOU WANNA CONFIRM THAT FOR ME, COUNCILWOMAN ON MAJOR ROAD, WE DID RECENTLY IN D NINE STONE YARD IS THE BEST TIME TO DO THE WORK AT NIGHT, WHICH IS REDUCE THE TRAFFIC EFFECT.

BUT WE WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR MOST OF THE TIME.

WE HAVE FULL-TIME INSPECTOR ON THE SITE TO MAKE SURE WE REDUCE THE NOISE LEVEL AS MINIMUM AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO DO AT WORK TO ELIMINATE THAT TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON THE DAYTIME.

AND THERE HASN'T BEEN PUSHBACK ON THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE NOT HEARD , STONE OAK, WE GOT VERY POSITIVE RESPONSE BECAUSE BEFORE SIX O'CLOCK RUSH HOUR START, WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND GONE FROM THE SITE.

OKAY.

I, I, UM, I JUST AM SURPRISED, UH, UM, THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

I KNOW IT'S HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I LIVE BECAUSE I LIVE ON A BUSY STREET, UM, THAT THERE WAS ROAD WORK BEING DONE.

I FOUND IT TO BE VERY DISRUPTIVE, BUT I DIDN'T COMPLAIN.

UM, BUT I'M SURPRISED TO HEAR PEOPLE DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

SO, UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THIS PARTICULAR, THAT TOTALLY SEPARATE STREET WORK WHEN IT COMES TO THIS CITY.

IT, IT MAY BE SOME INCONVENIENCE, BUT THE BENEFIT OF NOT CREATING TRAFFIC PROBLEM IS MUCH, MUCH MORE THAN CREATING SOME NOISE.

OKAY.

UM, EVEN IF IT WERE ONGOING.

'CAUSE THE SCENARIOS THAT I'M THINKING OF WERE LIKE A FEW DAYS MM-HMM.

, UH, MAYBE EVEN OVER, MAYBE IT WAS ONLY ONE NIGHT MM-HMM.

, BUT I GUESS I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT THE COMMUNITY'S NOT GONNA BE OUTRAGE IF YOU HAVE A MAJOR STREET PROJECT.

WELL, ONE THING I WANNA POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, EVEN BEFORE

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SO THEY'RE OUT THERE WEEKS IN ADVANCE OF, OF THE PROJECT EDUCATING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INFORMING 'EM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THIS STREET, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THAT STREET.

WE ARE GONNA BE THE ROUTES THAT YOU TAKE.

UH, IF THERE'S GONNA BE NIGHTTIME CONSTRUCTION, WE LET THEM KNOW.

SO I THINK THE TICKET IS, IT'S THAT ROBUST COMMUNICATION THAT TAKES PLACE PRIOR TO THE PROJECT.

OKAY.

WELL, I HAVEN'T HEARD COMPLAINTS YET.

SO IN FAIRNESS, UM, ONLY THAT I'VE WITNESSED IT, I, BECAUSE I'VE HAD SO MANY CHILDREN IN THIS TIME, UH, I OFTEN WAS UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND HEARD A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION AND SURPRISED THAT NOBODY COMPLAINED.

SO, UH, AND ALSO THE OTHER NOISE THAT WE HEAR A LOT IS THAT GARBAGE COLLECTION AND, UM, WHAT IS THERE IS THIS TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM THAT.

AND, AND I DON'T MEAN OUR CITY GARBAGE COLLECTION, THEY'RE PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT DO GARBAGE COLLECTION.

SURE.

WELL, I THINK, UH, FROM LARGE CONTAINERS, SORRY, UH, THIS PROPOSAL IS SPECIFIC TO LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION NOISE, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, PRODUCTS BEING BUILT.

SO I THINK IT IS SEPARATE, UH, WE CAN GET YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION.

UH, I CAN WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, DAVID AND GET YOU SOME OF THE RULES AND REGS FOR NOT JUST THE CITIES, BUT, BUT, UH, PRIVATE COLLECTION.

WE CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE WERE ALL, WOULD ALL BE, UH, RELEVANT.

AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE GARBAGE COLLECTION PRIVATE, SO, UH, OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN COURAGE FOR BRINGING UP THE C C R.

AND THANK YOU ALSO FOR, UM, LETTING US KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THIS AND THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULES.

I ALWAYS BELIEVE THAT THERE'S NOT ALWAYS A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH TO EVERYTHING THAT WE PROPOSE.

I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON YOUR COMMENT ABOUT, UM, POSSIBLY ENCOURAGING SELF-REGULATION BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT JUST LIKE IN THE EXAMPLE THAT COUNCILMAN PALEOS USED EARLIER ABOUT, UM, ENGAGING AND COLLABORATION IS, IS I THINK, BETTER THAN, UH, JUST STRAIGHT DOWN REGULATION FROM THE TOP DOWN.

UM, I DID HAVE A CONCERN, AND SO, AND I, MY, MY DAD WAS EMPLOYED IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS, UM, ALL OF HIS LIFE.

SO I KNOW THAT THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IS HUGE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND I KNOW THAT CONCRETE DRIVES, UM, IT TAKES A LITTLE LONG TO DRY.

AND SO THE WORKERS ARE OUT THERE IN THE HEAT WEARING THESE LONG SLEEVE SHIRTS TO PROTECT THEIR SKIN FROM ALL SORTS OF CANCERS.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONSIDER AND BE FLEXIBLE WITH SOME OF THESE WORKERS THAT ARE REALLY PART OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION IN SAN ANTONIO, BECAUSE HOW WILL IT AFFECT THEM? HOW WILL IT AFFECT THEM GETTING TO WORK? UM, I KNOW A LOT OF THEM CARPOOL RIGHT NOW.

A LOT OF 'EM DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION.

SO OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER.

AND I THOUGHT THAT I'D BRING THAT UP, UM, IN, IN, BECAUSE IT'S RELEVANT AND THE TEXAS HEAT, OF COURSE IS ALWAYS RELEVANT.

UM, I ALSO THINK THAT, UH, SIMILAR TO COUNCIL WOMAN'S POINT, UH, UH, I WAS GONNA ASK WHAT TIME DO ARE OUR CITY EMPLOYEES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE MAKING NOISE? WHAT TIME ARE THEY AUTHORIZED TO GO OUT AND DO WORK ON THE STREETS? UM, COUNCILWOMAN ONLY TIME WE WORK AT NIGHT IS THERE IS AN EMERGENCY WORK.

OTHER THAN THAT, MOST OF OUR WORK IS DONE ON DAYTIME, BUT TYPICALLY, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE DOWNTOWN OPERATIONS, OR SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEED C C D O FOLKS, UM, UH, WHAT, WHAT TIME DO THEY START WORKING OR WHAT ON THEIR CRUISES? IS IT LIKE 5:00 AM OR EVEN SOLID WASTE? WHAT TIME DO THEIR ROUTES BEGIN IN DOWNTOWN? WE DO THE SWEEPING, WHICH REALLY DOESN'T CREATE MUCH NOISE OTHER THAN JUST THE REGULAR TRAFFIC THAT'S DONE AT NIGHTTIME.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND SO LIKE THE, UM, OUR SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FOLKS, THEY ALSO DO, THEY HAVE A CERTAIN START TIME? WHAT TIME DO THE TRUCKS ROLL OUT? I, I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND 7:00 AM IS WHEN THEY, YEAH.

OKAY.

IT'S 7:00 AM OKAY, GREAT.

SO THEN I, I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WAS SOME CONSISTENCY WITH WHAT WE ALREADY DO, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE PREACH TO DO SOMETHING AND WE SHOULD BE THE FIRST TO, UM, LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.

AND THEN I JUST ALSO, I'M SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING WITH THE SAN ANTONIO BUILDERS OR, OR PERHAPS THE SAN ANTONIO MANUFACTURING ASSOCIATION.

I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO CONSIDER, THEY HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD RESEARCH AND STATS THAT I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TAKE ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT FROM OUR FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE.

AND THERE WAS ONE IMPORTANT THING THAT I THINK CAME UP, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HOPE WE WORK ON, AND THAT IS THE CITY GIVES THE COMMUNITY ADVANCED NOTICE WHEN WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING MAJOR WORK AROUND ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE STAFF GO OUT, UH, WE MAIL NOTICES OR WE REQUIRE THE CONTRACTORS DOING BUSINESS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO INFORM THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT WORK THAT'S GONNA BE GOING ON.

BUT

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THEY DON'T GO OUT VERY OFTEN AND LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON OR WHEN, OR WHAT TIMEFRAMES.

THEY MAY NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE LOUDER WORK GOING ON.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE POINTS OF DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WHEN I MET WITH SOME OF THE BUILDERS.

AND I CHALLENGED THEM TO COME UP WITH WHAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD BE SOME OF THE, UM, EXCEPTIONS AND SOME OF THE WAYS OF BETTER, UH, INCORPORATING WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING INTO THE COMMUNITIES THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING AROUND.

YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF NOISE ON, ON TUESDAY MORNING BECAUSE THEY'RE POURING CORN CONCRETE OR THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING AT NIGHT THAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE ON THURSDAY NIGHT, AND IT MAY BE A LITTLE DISRUPTIVE IF PEOPLE KNOW THAT AHEAD OF TIME, THEY'RE MORE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THAT THAN WHEN THEY JUST GET NOISE WHAT THEY NEVER EXPECTED AT ODD TIMES AND SOMETIMES VERY INCONSISTENTLY.

SO I HOPE THAT'LL BE PART OF, UH, WHAT WE PRODUCE IN THE WAY OF, UH, SOME, UH, WAYS OF DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC, UH, WHEN WE WORK WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

UM, UH, WE, UH, ARE WE LOOKING FOR, UM, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF, OR, UH, A MOTION TO ADVANCE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF, WHICH IS TO CREATE A TASK FORCE OF CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, UH, TO COMMENCE THE ACTIVITY? SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE MOTION.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

COUNCIL, WOULD THAT THEN GO TO A CITY COMMITTEE, UH, FOR FINAL ACTION? WHICH COMMITTEE WOULD THAT BE? WE WOULD RECOMMEND PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT 'CAUSE IT'S RELATED TO THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING CODES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AS WELL AS THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

BUT THANK YOU.

UH, I'LL MOVE THE, THE RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

I'LL SECOND.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR, UM, CREATION OF THE TASK FORCE, UH, TO REPORT THEN TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLANNING, UH, COMMITTEE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

[4. A briefing and possible action on a Council Consideration Request (CCR) from Councilmember Shirley Gonzales, District 5, requesting to immediately develop and implement a formal, year-round, sustained training program that focuses on innovative best practices for fully implementing the City’s Complete Streets and Vision Zero policies for all transportation and SA Tomorrow planning, projects, and programs. [Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Razi Hosseini, Interim Director, Transportation & Capital Improvements]]

DISTRICT FIVE REQUESTING TO IMMEDIATELY DEVELOP AN IMPLEMENT A FORMAL YEAR-ROUND SUSTAINED TRAINING PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES ON INNOVATIVE BEST PRACTICES FOR FULLY IMPLEMENTING THE CITY'S COMPLETE STREETS AND VISION ZERO POLICIES FOR ALL TRANSPORTATION AND SA TOMORROW PLANNING PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS. ALRIGHT, ART.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN FOR IN INITIATING THIS ITEM TO ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND SAFETY AND, AND THINGS THAT WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT.

T C I, UM, YOU, YOU OUTLINED EIGHT DIFFERENT ITEMS IN YOUR T C R AND I'M GONNA TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THOSE.

UM, REALLY THE POINT OF TODAY IS TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE FOR FUTURE DIALOGUE WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE.

UM, SO THREE OF THOSE ITEMS REALLY TOUCH ON THAT TRAINING COMPONENT.

YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, CREATING A TRAINING PROGRAM, A SUSTAINED TRAINING PROGRAM FOR INTERNAL STAFF AS WELL AS OUR CONSULTANTS, AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND SO, UH, WE HAVE STARTED THAT PROCESS.

WE REALLY VALUE THAT AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AS RESOURCES ALLOW.

SINCE 2017, UH, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FOLKS FROM NDO COME IN, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS.

THEY HOSTED AN INTERNAL TRAINING, UH, FOR CITY STAFF, AND THEN A FEW MONTHS LATER, AN EXTERNAL TRAINING FOR OUR CONSULTANTS.

WE'VE HAD FOLKS FROM F H W A COME AND RECENTLY A COUPLE VISION ZERO SYMPOSIUMS. AND THEN MOST RECENTLY THIS SUMMER, UH, WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET GIL PENALOSA COME, UH, FROM THE EIGHT TO 80 CITIES FOUNDATION AND GIVE A GREAT LECTURE ON PLANNING FOR PRE-K TO GRAY, UH, AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY VALUE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS RESOURCES ALLOW.

UM, ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS WAS TALKING ABOUT REALLY LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

AND SO THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET LAST YEAR OR LAST WEEK, UM, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT REALLY LAID THAT FOUNDATION FOR T C I, UH, MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR WITH LOOKING AT OUR BIKE MASTER PLAN, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS UPDATE THAT IN THE FORM OF A MICRO MOBILITY POLICY DOCUMENT.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE WANT TO GET THE KEY POLICY DIRECTION TO GIVE STAFF, UH, THE TOOLS TO IMPLEMENT, YOU KNOW, MICRO MOBILITY FACILITIES.

SO THAT'S THE DIALOGUE THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE AND FORTUNATELY WAS INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET THAT WAS ADOPTED LAST WEEK.

SO THAT'S ONE STEP COMING.

YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE DESIGN GUIDANCE MANUAL, WHICH REALLY SERVED AS A REFERENCE BOOK TO OTHER DESIGN CODES, AND THEN ALSO LAYS OUT THE PROCEDURES THAT T C I USES TO IMPLEMENT OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

IN 2017, YOU INITIATED C C R TO INCLUDE, UH, REFERENCES TO NATO, UH, AND THEN ALSO TO FURTHER THE ADOPTION OF COMPLETE STREETS AND VISION ZERO THROUGH THIS C C R.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STEPS WE HAVE TAKEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD.

UH, THROUGH THE, THE PREVIOUS C C R, WE WERE UNDERGOING

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SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN THERE.

AND AS WE WORK AND, UH, GET BETTER OURSELVES AS WELL AS TRAINING OUR STAFF AND, AND OTHERS AND CONSULTANTS, WE'LL CONTINUE TO PUT THAT MESSAGE FORWARD, UH, SO THAT THAT WORKS IN PROGRESS.

ONE OF THE, I THINK, MOST DIFFICULT, UH, CHALLENGES THAT, THAT YOU LAID OUT IN YOUR C C R AND I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE, IS REALLY LOOKING AT HOW DO WE MEASURE SUCCESS, DEFINING THOSE METRICS.

UM, SO T C I, WE'RE, WE'RE FOCUSED ON INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WE TEND TO THINK ABOUT THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND WE'RE PRESENTING, YOU KNOW, CENTER LINE, MILES OF STREETS OR SIDEWALKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT REALLY DEFINING THOSE METRICS ON HOW ARE WE MOVING THAT NEEDLE ON COMPLETE STREETS WITHOUT NECESSARILY RELYING ON THE, THE MILEAGE OF SOMETHING.

UH, THE MAYOR RECENTLY SAID, IT'S ABOUT THE, THE PEOPLE, NOT NECESSARILY THE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, THROUGH THE DIALOGUE WITH, UM, CREATING POLICIES IN OUR MICRO MOBILITY POLICY DOCUMENT, ALSO WORKING WITH OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY, UH, AND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WE'LL LOOK TO, TO DETERMINE WHAT ARE APPROPRIATE METRICS.

UM, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE DO HAVE, RELATION TO VISION ZERO, UH, WE WERE RECENTLY ASKED ABOUT HOW ARE WE SHOWING SUCCESS, WE'RE REALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY SUCCESS, UM, HAS SOLELY BEEN DEFINED ON THE, A REDUCTION IN, IN FATALITIES AND SEVERE CRASHES.

UH, SO THAT'S THE METRIC WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.

UM, WHAT WE CAN'T MEASURE IS THE LIVES WE'VE SAVED.

AND SO WE'LL ALSO CONTINUE TO LEARN FROM OUR OTHER VISION ZERO CITIES TO SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER METRICS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE INTEND TO LOOK AT AS WELL.

UH, AND THEN LASTLY, IT WAS REALLY ABOUT BRIEFING, UM, EITHER A B SESSION ON A QUARTERLY BASIS OR MONTHLY UPDATES TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

SO AS WE WORK TO DEFINE SOME OF THESE METRICS, T C I PRESENTS AT THOSE, UH, COMMITTEES AND, UM, QUITE FREQUENTLY.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO DO SO ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

UM, SO IN CLOSING, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE DIALOGUE.

WE RECOMMEND THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE, UH, AND WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS AND THEN, UH, MOVE F FORWARD FROM THERE.

THANK YOU.

ART, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, UH, PUT FORWARD THE C C R TO BEGIN THIS PROCESS.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND, AND SO THIS IS A JUST FURTHER EXTENSION OF THE C C R THAT I SENT IN 2017, UH, JUST TO CONTINUE THE ONGOING EFFORTS, MAKING IT MORE INSTITUTIONALIZED, UM, ASKING FOR MORE TRAINING.

WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS JUST AN ACTO CONFERENCE, UH, IN SEPTEMBER, UM, AND I HOPE SOMEBODY WENT, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME SORT OF BRIEFING ON WHAT WAS LEARNED THERE.

UH, IT WAS IN TORONTO AND I'D HOPED THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE COULD ATTEND, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A BUDGET ADOPTION, SO WE DID NOT GET TO ATTEND, BUT I KNOW I'LL BE ATTENDING THE VISION ZERO CONFERENCE IN NEW YORK IN OCTOBER.

AND I, I KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE A MEMBER THERE AS WELL, SO WE CAN LEARN FROM OTHER CITIES.

UM, I DO THINK SAN ANTONIO IS UNIQUE IN THAT WE WERE AN EARLY ADOPTER IN VISION ZERO, BUT STILL, UM, TRYING TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT ISSUE.

SO WE LOOK FOR THIS TO BE ONGOING.

UM, AND, UH, I KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS IN THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UH, BUT, UM, ASKING IN THIS CASE FOR ADDITIONAL TRAINING, UH, AND, UH, WITH OUR CONTRACTORS, DESIGNERS, UM, CITYWIDE, UH, AND SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

SO THANK YOU, UH, THANK YOU ART FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.

UH, MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ.

SO, UM, THERE IS A MOTION TO ADVANCE THE, UH, CONTINUATIONS AND UPDATES, UH, TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

UH, WAS THERE A SECOND? I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

THERE'S A MOTION TO SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

SORRY, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

UM, THANK YOU ART FOR THAT ALSO, UM, PRESENTATION.

AND SO I'M, I'M GLAD THAT THERE WAS TRAINING FOR COUNSEL, OR THERE WILL, THERE WILL BE TRAINING FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO SIGN ME UP TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

UM, THE MICRO MOBILITY POLICY DOCUMENT THAT, UM, WHEN DO YOU THINK WE WILL SEE IT? OR IS THERE A TIMELINE YET? SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2020, AND WE'LL BRING FORWARD, UH, THE PLAN WILL PROBABLY BE, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA DO IT IN CHUNKS AND WE'LL PROVIDE BRIEFINGS TO THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY COMMITTEE AS WE MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT.

UM, BECAUSE WE, CERTAINLY, THE MEAT OF IT IS A POLICY DISCUSSION, THINGS LIKE WHERE DO WE RESTRICT PARKING, UH, AND, AND ET CETERA.

SO, UH, THAT'S THE DIALOGUE WE WANT TO HAVE AND MAKE SURE STAFF IS ON THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

GREAT.

ON PAGE THREE OF THE C C R, UM, IT, IT REFERENCES AND, AND I, UM, ALSO SIGN ON TO THE C C R, BUT IT SAYS THAT IN ACTO IS NOT A DESIGN AND OPERATIONAL MANUAL.

SO WHAT WOULD BE, IN YOUR OPINION? SO, SO NATO IS A COLLECTION OF BEST PRACTICES.

OKAY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE BOOK, IT'S GREAT PICTURES.

THERE ARE SOME CRITERIA AS FAR AS MAYBE WIDTHS OF CERTAIN THINGS, BUT IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU KIND OF THE INGREDIENTS ON HOW, HOW YOU BAKE A CAKE, IF YOU WILL.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CERTAIN, UH, CURVATURES OF, UH, THE ENGINEERING COMPONENTS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN BY IT'S

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ON THE OPERATION SIDE, WE, WE FOLLOW STATE AND FEDERAL, UM, CRITERIA, THE MA MANUAL AND UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.

IT GETS KIND OF TECHNICAL, BUT, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE, THE TYPE OF DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW, UM, AS LICENSED PLANNERS AND ENGINEERS.

AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING TO UTILIZE, AND I'M, I'M GONNA BUTCHER THESE RIGHT ASH, O AND F H W A GUIDELINES AS THE PRIMARY TECHNICAL RESOURCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT IS OUR PRIMARY REFERENCE GUIDE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED.

UH, SOME FEDERAL FUNDED PROJECTS REQUIRE THAT, BUT CERTAINLY WE, YOU KNOW, OUR U D C ALREADY INCLUDES REFERENCES TO NATO, OUR DESIGN GUIDE MANUAL AS WELL.

AND SO WE, WE ARE USING AND LOOKING AT THOSE BEST PRACTICES, UM, TO KIND OF GIVE US THE DIRECTION, BUT THEN THE MEAT OF IT COMES THROUGH THE, THE FEDERAL DOCUMENTS THAT YOU MENTIONED.

AND THEN FINALLY, I'D LOVE TO SEE A COPY OF THE DESIGN GUIDANCE MANUAL FOR THE CITY.

SURE.

AND SO IF MAYBE I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT HOME FOR LIGHT READING OR SOMETHING.

OKAY.

WELL, DON'T GET CARRIED AWAY, BUT , IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE.

I CAN CERTAINLY SEND YOU A LINK OR HAVE.