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COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY AND CHAIRWOMAN SANDOVAL, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
UH, JUST A REMINDER,
UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMAN.
UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIGN UP TO OUR MAILING LIST TO RECEIVE, UH, THE AGENDA WHEN IT'S POSTED, OR ANY OTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT GETS MAILED OUT REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, PLEASE SEE MY STAFF MEMBER OVER THERE.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, TAKE A MOTION ON THE FIRST ITEM, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 30TH, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CITIZENS TO BE HEARD SIGNED UP.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH ITEM TWO, MARIA.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCILWOMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS AN ITEM FOR BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON OUR CRIME.
STATISTICS FOR THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT IS SPECIFIC, SPECIFICALLY OUR UNIFORM CRIME REPORT, UH, TRENDS AND THE EFFORTS OF THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REDUCE, UH, CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE, AND RESULTS OF OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM.
UH, THIS PRESENTATION IS VERY, UH, FOCUSED ON METRICS, AND WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE THE RESULTS OF, UH, UH, PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS THAT WE HAVE DONE ON REPEAT, UH, OFFENDERS.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, CHIEF MCMANUS.
SO SOME OF THESE, UH, LET ME INTRODUCE MY, MY TEAM HERE BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
SO, TO MY RIGHT IS MY CHIEF OF STAFF, BOBBY BLANTON, CAPTAIN BOBBY BLANTON.
TO MY LEFT IS JIM GLASS, AND HE IS THE, UH, ANALYTICS, UH, PERSON OVER AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
HE DOES ALL THE CRIME FIGURING OUT AND, AND THE NUMBERS CRUNCHING.
UH, OVER TO MY LEFT IS, UH, KAREN FOX, CAPTAIN KAREN FAS.
I THINK Y'ALL REMEMBER HER FROM OUR LAST TIME.
TOM JENKINS IS, UH, A PERSON THAT WE STOLE FROM D P S SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
HE, HE WAS THERE, UM, U C R PERSON, AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT U C R IS AS WE GET, UH, AS WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION.
BUT THAT'S ALL HE DOES FOR US.
HE COUNTS THE NUMBERS, UH, AND, AND, UH, UM, UH, SUBMITS ALL THAT U C R DATA THAT WE GATHER TO D P S FOR EVENTUAL SUBMISSION TO THE F B I.
AND IN, IN THE BACK THERE, UH, CAPTAIN MIKE MOSELEY, HE'S OVER SPECIAL CRIMES.
HE HAS HIS LIEUTENANT WITH HIM, DEAN WHITE, UM, DEPUTY CHIEF, UH, JIMMY REYES, WHO IS OVER THE, UH, THE, UH, SPECIAL CRIMES, MAJOR CRIMES AREA OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, AND, UH, LIEUTENANT JESSE SOLAME, COLONEL RICK RILEY, JIM KOPP.
AND I SEE ROGER STARING AT ME WANTING TO BE INTRODUCED.
UM, SO
SO LET ME, LET ME START OUT WITH THE, UH, WE'VE GOT TWO PRESENTATIONS TODAY.
THE FIRST ONE, I THINK IS THE CRIME METRICS.
SO LET ME, LET ME TALK ABOUT U C R U C R IS NOTHING.
AND U C R IS NOTHING MORE THAN THE PROCESS DEVELOPED BY THE F B I BACK IN 1930 FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO SUBMIT THEIR, THEIR REPORTED CRIME, UH, TO A CENTRAL COLLECTION, UM, UH, UH, PLACE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN WEST VIRGINIA.
THE U C R DIVISION OF THE, OF THE F B I IS LOCATED IN WEST VIRGINIA.
AND, UM, EVERY QUARTER POLICE DEPARTMENTS SUBMIT THEIR INFORMATION.
IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, IT'S NOT BY LAW THAT THEY SUBMIT THEM, IT'S VOLUNTARY.
BUT IF YOU DON'T SUBMIT YOUR NUMBERS, YOU PROBABLY ELIMINATE YOURSELF FROM A LOT OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD ORDINARILY MAKE AVAILABLE.
SO, U C R, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S SIMPLY THE CRIMES THAT WE REPORT TO THE F B I THROUGH D P S.
NOW, THERE ARE EIGHT OF THOSE CRIMES, AND THEY ARE TYPICALLY THE MOST SERIOUS CRIMES THAT PEOPLE REPORT.
ON THE VIOLENCE SIDE, WE GOT HOMICIDE, RAPE, ROBBERY, AND AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.
ON THE PROPERTY SIDE, WE HAVE BURGLARY, LARCENY, OR THEFT, UH, VEHICLE THEFT AND ARSON.
UM, AGAIN, EACH YEAR WE REPORT, OR EACH QUARTER, WE, WE REPORT THOSE CRIMES TO THE F B I THROUGH D
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P S, AND TOM JENKINS IS AT THE, UH, IS AT THE NERVE CENTER OF THAT REPORTING PROCESS.NOW, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THE OTHER CRIMES? UM, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM, UH, UM, FRAUD TO SIMPLE ASSAULT TO, UM, UM, UM, EMBEZZLEMENT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF CRIMES ARE ALL CONSIDERED TO BE PART TWO CRIMES.
WE DON'T REPORT THEM TO THE F B I, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BE REPORTED TO THE F B I.
AM I RIGHT ON THAT, TOM? ONLY THE ARREST, SIR.
ONLY, ACTUALLY, ONLY THE ARRESTING ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED THAT OFFENSE IS REPORTED TO THE F B I.
BUT IF SOMEONE COMMITS A, A CRIME, A PART TWO CRIME, THAT OFFENSE IS NOT REPORTED UNLESS THERE IS AN ARREST MADE IN THAT CASE.
UM, SO NBRS, YOU SEE, THERE IS A, IS AN ACRONYM FOR NATIONAL INSTANT NATIONAL, UH, UM, INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM, NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM.
SO BY, BY JANUARY OF 2021 DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WELL, AT LEAST IN TEXAS, TEXAS OR THE COUNTRY, DON COUNTRY, COUNTRY DEPARTMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO TRANSITION FROM U C R REPORTING TO BRSS REPORTING.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS, AGAIN, BRSS IS JUST AN ACRONYM FOR, UM, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE DIFFERENT WAY THAT WE'LL BE REPORTING THESE CRIMES.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF, IF A, A HOME IS BROKEN INTO, AND IN THE COURSE OF THAT BURGLARY, SOMEONE IS KILLED, THE ONLY CRIME THAT WE WILL, WE WILL REPORT TO THE F B I VIA U C R IS THE HOMICIDE.
SO THE BURGLARY DOESN'T GET REPORTED, OKAY? IT ONLY REPORTS THE MOST SERIOUS CRIME UNDER NEIGHBORS.
WE WILL REPORT UP TO 10 CRIMES IN ONE INCIDENT.
SO IF, IF SOMEONE BREAKS INTO A HOME, THEY'LL COUNT THE BURGLARY.
IF SOMEONE, UM, ASSAULTS SOMEONE INSIDE THE HOME, THEY'LL REPORT THE ASSAULT.
IF SOMEONE IS ALSO KILLED IN THAT SAME CRIME, WILL REPORT THE HOMICIDE AS WELL.
WHATEVER CRIME IS REPORTED IN THAT ONE INCIDENT, WE WILL REPORT ALL OF THOSE CRIMES TO THE F B I VIA THE NEIGHBORS SYSTEM, OKAY? AND WHAT THAT DOES IS PROVIDES FOR MORE ACCURATE REPORTING OF CRIME.
UH, IT OFFERS A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF CRIME.
AND IT ALSO, IT ALSO ENHANCES THE, THE ABILITY FOR, UH, FOR VICTIMS TO, UH, APPLY FOR CERTAIN VICTIM SERVICES.
AND, UM, UM, IT JUST GIVES US A, A BETTER PICTURE, A A BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN THESE CRIMES ARE COMMITTED.
SO, UM, U C R DATA, AND I GUESS IN THE FUTURE, BRSS DATA IS OFTEN, UM, USED AS A COMPARISON OF, OF SAFETY OR NOT BEING SO SAFE FROM ONE CITY AGAINST ANOTHER.
SO WHEN THE F B I PUTS OUT ITS, ITS ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH IS TYPICALLY SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS AFTER THE, THE PREVIOUS YEAR, FOLKS WILL LOOK AT THAT REPORT AND SAY, OH, MY GOODNESS, UH, UH, DALLAS IS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN, THAN AUSTIN OR HOUSTON IS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN SAN ANTONIO.
AND THEY CAN DO THAT FOR ANY, ANY CITY IN THE COUNTRY.
BUT THE F B I CAUTIONS YOU, CAUTIONS US NOT TO USE U C R DATA TO COMPARE CITY TO CITY AS TO HOW SAFE IT IS OR HOW DANGEROUS IT IS.
AND THE REASON THAT IS, IS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THERE'S, THERE'S CRITERIA FOR REPORTING CERTAIN CRIMES, IT'S NOT FOLLOWED THE SAME BY EVERY CITY, BY EVERY DEPARTMENT.
IF SOMEONE POINTS A GUN AT ME AND PULLS THE TRIGGER AND SHOOTS ME IN THE ARM, WHAT CRIME DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.
IF SOMEONE POINTS A GUN AT ME AND DOESN'T PULL THE TRIGGER OR PULLS THE TRIGGER AND MISSES, WHAT CRIME DO WE HAVE? WE STILL HAVE AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.
SO SOME CITIES WON'T COUNT THEM THAT WAY.
SO SOME CITIES WILL POINT, WILL, WILL SAY THAT IF THERE'S NO ONE HURT, WE'LL CALL IT A SIMPLE, A SIMPLE ASSAULT.
AND THAT DOESN'T GO AGAINST YOUR U C R NUMBERS.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE, IF I BREAK INTO
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A CAR, UH, AND DON'T STEAL ANYTHING, WHAT IS IT? IT'S A BURGLARY.IF I STEAL, IF I BREAK INTO A CAR AND STEAL SOMETHING, WHAT IS IT? IT'S A BURGLARY.
BUT SOME, SOME CITIES WON'T COUNT THAT AS A BURGLARY.
THEY MAY COUNT IT AS A CRIMINAL MISCHIEF FOR BREAKING INTO THE CAR.
SAME THING IF I BREAK INTO A HOME.
IF I BREAK THE DOOR DOWN IN YOUR HOME, WHETHER I TAKE ANYTHING OR NOT, IT'S A BURGLARY.
SOME CITIES WON'T COUNT IT AS THAT.
THEY'LL COUNT IT AS A CRIMINAL MISCHIEF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THERE ARE, AND I, I, I PRINTED OUT, OR I RESEARCHED LAST NIGHT, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, CITIES THAT HAVE GOTTEN CAUGHT, UH, REDUCING THEIR CRIME THAT WAY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, BACK IN 2009, I WON'T NAME THE CITY, BUT IT'S, IT'S IN THE, IT'S, YOU GOOGLE IT, YOU'LL FIND IT, IT'S A TEXAS CITY.
THEY REDUCED THEIR, UM, THEY REDUCED THEIR VIOLENT CRIME DRAMATICALLY BY GAMING THE NUMBERS THE SAME, THE, THE WAY I JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, THERE WAS A CITY IN, UH, IN MILWAUKEE, FOR EXAMPLE.
THEY DID THE SAME THING FOR YEARS.
THEY DOWN DOWNGRADED, UH, THEIR VIOLENT CRIME, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO, UM, UH, D P S OR THE F B I THROUGH D P S.
THEY DOWNGRADED THEIR CRIME AND DRAMATICALLY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF VIOLENT CRIMES THAT THEY WERE REPORTED.
BUT THROUGH AN AUDIT OR SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, THEY WERE, THEY WERE CAUGHT DOING THAT.
AND THAT, THAT HAPPENS AGAIN AND AGAIN ACROSS THE, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
I CAN TELL YOU WITH, WITH 100% CERTAINTY, THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE HIRED TOM JENKINS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR D P S NUMBERS WERE CORRECT WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE SENT THEM IN.
UM, AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL READ SOME OF THE CITIES OFF RIGHT HERE.
MIAMI, ATLANTA, NEW YORK, PHILLY, AND AS I MENTIONED, MILWAUKEE.
AND THEN THERE'S A CITY HERE IN TEXAS, WHICH I WON'T MENTION JUST TO BE NICE.
UM, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT VIOLENT CRIME THAT WE HAVE, WE, WE BEGAN THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE BACK IN EARLY 2017.
WE DIDN'T REALLY GET ROLLING UNTIL PROBABLY MID-FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH ON THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY PUT UP ON THE BOARD REPEATEDLY YEAR AFTER YEAR.
THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE IS COMPRISED OF STATE, LOCAL, AND FEDERAL AGENCIES.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE JUST HAD OUR MEETING YESTERDAY AT PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTERS.
UH, AND, UH, OVER THE YEARS, IT'S TYPICAL FOR, UM, A TASK FORCE TO LOSE STEAM AND FOR SOME MEMBERS TO DROP OFF.
THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE.
UH, EVERY MEMBER OF THAT TASK FORCE, UH, THAT STARTED, IS STILL THERE WITH, WITH US.
AND THEY ARE, UH, UH, CONTINUING, CONTINUING TO DO THE GREAT WORK.
AS YOU SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT, THOSE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO GO UP YEAR AFTER YEAR.
ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS VIOLENT CRIME WITHOUT, UH, UH, UH, APART FROM UH, ENFORCEMENT IS WE HAVE AN, A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM.
NOW, THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM GOES TO HIGH CRIME AREAS, AND THEY ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE ON THE STREETS WHO ARE AT, WHO ARE AT RISK FROM BECOMING VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME OR FOR AT RISK FOR, UM, UM, BEING INVOLVED IN A VIOLENT CRIME AS A PERPETRATOR.
AND THEY TALK WITH, UH, VICTIMS THEY TALK WITH, UM, UM, UH, THEY WORK WITH ADVOCACY GROUPS TO PROVIDE REFERRAL SERVICES, UH, AND INFORMATION TO VICTIMS. THEY COORDINATE SPECIAL PROJECTS LIKE BASKETBALL GAMES AND, UH, PICNICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, FOR POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS.
UH, CURRENTLY THEY WORK OUT OF HOMICIDE.
THEY ARE GONNA GOING TO BE A DIRECT REPORT TO MY OFFICE HERE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT TRANSITION HERE PRETTY SOON.
UH, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN IN, THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, ACTIVE NOW FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, I THINK, AT LEAST.
AND THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT I JUST TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE GOT, UH, ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONTACTS, THE METRICS FOR THESE CONTACTS THAT WE DO, UH, WITH THAT UNIT.
UH, VICTIMS' CONTACTS, MEETING CONTACTS, UH, SPECIAL PROJECTS, SERVICE REFERRALS, AND ON AND ON.
AND THEY'VE DONE A, THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB SINCE WE'VE PUT THEM INTO PLAY.
THIS IS A, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ANALYSIS HERE THAT, THAT, UM, I, I ASKED FOR THE STUDY TO BE DONE SOME TIME AGO.
IT, IT, IT WAS A, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, I WAS SOMEWHAT CURIOUS ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ME SAY, AND I SAY IT IN ALL THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THAT, THAT, UH,
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WHAT GETS PEOPLE INTO TROUBLE IN TERMS OF VIOLENT CRIME IS RISKY BEHAVIOR ON THE STREET.MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT, AND THERE'S EXCEPTIONS TO THIS, THIS IS NOT A, UH, THIS IS NOT A, UH, PAINTING WITH A BROAD BRUSH, BUT MOST OF THE VICTIMS, MANY OF THE VICTIMS THAT WE SEE, UH, INJURED ON THE STREET, ARE ENGAGED IN A RISKY BEHAVIOR.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF RISKY BEHAVIOR.
I THINK I DID THIS IN THE PAST HERE, BUT FOR THE NEW MEMBERS.
SO I OWE A GUY $200, AND THIS IS AN ACTUAL EXAMPLE EVENT.
I OWE A GUY $200 FOR A MOTOR SCOOTER OR A MOTORCYCLE THAT HE SOLD ME.
AND I'M STANDING ON THE CORNER WITH MY, WITH MY BOYS, AND THE GUY THAT I OWE THE MONEY TO PULLS UP IN A CAR WITH HIS BROTHERS, AND HE GETS OUTTA THE CAR, APPROACHES ME, DEMANDS THE MONEY.
THE TWO BROTHERS JUMP OUTTA THE CAR, AND THEY GET INVOLVED IN THE GUNFIGHT AS WELL.
AT THE END OF THE DAY OR THE END OF THAT EVENT, THERE WERE FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE SHOT, UM, OVER A $200 MOTORCYCLE.
A GUY DECIDES ONE NIGHT THAT HE WANTS TO BUY SOME MARIJUANA.
SO HE GOES ONLINE, SETS UP A DEAL, AND AT A TWO 30 ON A FRIDAY MORNING, DRIVES TO HOUSTON AND FREO IN THE ALLEY AND MEETS THE GUY WHO'S SUPPOSEDLY GONNA SELL HIM SOME MARIJUANA.
WELL, HE TAKES TWO OF HIS FRIENDS WITH HIM.
THE SELLER PULLS UP AND SHOOTS ALL THREE OF THEM, KILLING ONE OF THEM.
IF YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY TO WORK EVERY DAY, PICKING UP YOUR KIDS FROM SCHOOL, GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE, YOUR CHANCES OF BECOMING THE VICTIM OF A VIOLENT CRIME ARE SLIM.
BUT IT'S THE RISKY BEHAVIOR THAT GETS PEOPLE INTO TROUBLE AND, AND GETS THE VICTIMS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THAT RISKY BEHAVIOR.
UM, 50, WAS IT 67, 60 7% OF THE PEOPLE COMMITTING THE CRIME, UH, HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD.
62% OF THE VIOLENT CRIME COMMITTED BY A PERSON, 62% OF VIOLENT CRIME COMMITTED BY A PERSON WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD.
AND YOU CAN, I MEAN, YOU CAN READ IT FOR YOURSELF ON THE SLIDE, BUT, UM, I DID THAT IN ORDER TO, TO LOOK AT THIS.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THIS NOT ONLY FROM AN ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM A, UH, A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE AS WELL, TRYING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT OUTREACH WE CAN PROVIDE, WHAT SERVICES WE CAN PROVIDE TO STOP PEOPLE FROM BECOMING NOT ONLY PERPETRATORS IN THIS KIND OF CRIME, BUT VICTIMS IN THIS KIND OF CRIME AS WELL.
UH, THAT, THAT INFORMATION THAT WE USED TO COMPILE THIS.
AND, AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO, TWO GENTLEMEN WHO COMPILED THAT INFORMATION IS SITTING OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT.
UM, THAT WAS TAKEN FROM BELL COUNTY CRIMINAL RECORDS FOR, FROM A PERIOD OF 1998 UP TO 2 20 18, AS WELL AS FROM R M S FROM A PERIOD OF 2012 TO 2018.
SO WE HAVE GOOD DATA TO, TO, TO, WE HAD GOOD DATA TO COME UP WITH THESE STATISTICS ON, ON, ON OUR REPEAT OFFENDER ANALYSIS.
CITYWIDE, SINCE 2017, THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN, IN PART ONE U C R CRIMES.
UH, THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT WE STARTED THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE.
AND IN 2018, WE REALIZED A 16% DECREASE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A 20% DECREASE SINCE 2017.
AND EVERY SERVICE AREA IN THE CITY, UH, WAS, UH, WAS LOOKING AT A CRIME DECREASE.
NOW, REMEMBER WHAT I SAID ABOUT COMPARING SAFETY VERSUS DANGEROUSNESS, UH, BASED ON U C R DATA.
THIS IS U C R DATA, AND ALL IT IS, IS A REFERENCE TO HOW MANY CRIMES PER HUNDRED THOUSAND WERE COMMITTED IN 2017.
AND THAT WOULD BE PROPERTY CRIMES.
SO IT JUST LISTS A BUNCH OF CITIES, UH, WITH SAN ANTONIO WINDING UP ON THE, IN, IN ORDER, ON THE FAR RIGHT OF THE GRAPH.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A COMPARISON TO SAY THAT, UH, SAN ANTONIO WAS SAFER THAN ALBUQUERQUE BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS PROPERTY CRIMES, ALTHOUGH IT IS.
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UH, AS FAR AS U C R REPORTING GOES, THIS IS WHAT THE NUMBERS LINE UP TO LOOK LIKE.AND THE SAME THING ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT VIOLENT CRIME.
AGAIN, NOT A COMPARISON FROM, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, BUT IT'S JUST HOW THE NUMBERS, HOW, UH, HOW THE NUMBERS LINE UP IN THE U C R DATA FROM 20 17 20 EIGHTEENS DATA IS NOT OUT YET.
UM, IT'S JUST A REFERENCE POINT.
AND YOU U C R DATA, UH, FOR 2018 THAT, THAT'S BEEN REPORTED SO FAR.
THE, THE, THE, THIS IS THE PART ONE UNIFORM, PART ONE U C R CRIMES FOR 20 16, 17, 18, AND 19 YEAR TO DATE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS COMPARED TO THE OTHER, UH, THREE YEARS, WE'RE UP SLIGHTLY IN BOTH VIOLENT CRIME AND PROPERTY CRIME.
I THINK IT'S A THREE, WHAT IS IT? 3%, THREE 4%? WE'RE UP? I THINK.
SO YEAH, SOMEWHERE AROUND 3% WE'RE UP THIS YEAR.
UH, THAT NUMBER TYPICALLY, UH, IS ELEVATED AFTER THE SUMMER, AND WE, WE EXPECT TO SEE THAT NUMBER GO DOWN THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.
IT ALSO SPIKES AGAIN AROUND THE HOLIDAYS, BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE A, WE'LL SEE ANOTHER DROP AGAIN THIS YEAR.
AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION ON, UH, ON THE, UH, CRIME METRICS.
UH, MR. GLASS, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.
I DIDN'T GET YOUR TITLE THOUGH.
WAS HE, HE'S THE ANALYTICS GUY THAT'S, HE DOESN'T, THAT'S AN OFFICIAL TITLE.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'LL START WITH COUNCILWOMAN, UH, GERRAN.
AND LET ME JUST SAY, I DO LIKE THIS SETUP A LOT MORE THAN HAVING YOU AT THE, AT THE PODIUM.
UM, I THINK I, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER NINE AND GO A LITTLE MORE IN DETAIL ON THAT FOR ME.
UM, 67% OF CRIME COMMITTED BY A PERSON WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD.
UH, 62, A VIOLENT CRIME COMMITTED BY A PERSON WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD.
SO, AGAIN, JUST LIKE LAST TIME I WAS HERE ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION.
SO I THINK I NEED DEF CLARIFICATION OF DEFINITIONS OF CRIME AND VIOLENT CRIME.
SO, AND ARE WE USING THE U C R DEFINITION OF VIOLENT CRIME WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 62%? WE, YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT U C R DEFINITION OF VIOLENT CRIME.
AND SO 67% OF CRIME, WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT U C R AND WAS IT COMBINED PROPERTY ON VIOLENT? THAT, THAT'S COMBINED PROPERTY ON VIOLENT.
UM, AND 43% ARE COMMITTED BY A PERSON WITH A VIOLENT CRIMINAL RECORD.
SO CHIEF, THIS BEGS THE QUESTION FROM ME, THEN.
WHY ARE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS STILL GETTING OUT AND BEING ABLE TO DO THIS AGAIN? YEAH, I, I'M, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN CRIME GOES UP, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO POINT FINGERS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS JUST ONE, ONE PIECE OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
AND I ASKED MYSELF THE SAME QUESTION THAT YOU, DO, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE BACK OUT ON THE STREET? MATTER OF FACT, THE GUY WHO SHOT THE POLICE OFFICER, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, HE WAS OUT ON BOND FROM ANOTHER SHOOTING THAT HE DID IN JULY WHERE HE SHOT ANOTHER TEENAGER.
THIS KID WAS A TEENAGER, HE SHOT ANOTHER, WELL, HE'S AN ADULT BY LAW, BUT HE WAS A TEENAGER, 17 YEARS OLD, AND HE SHOT ANOTHER TEENAGER WHO WAS SEATED IN A CAR BACK IN JULY.
AND YET HE'S BACK OUT ON THE STREET.
AND, AND BEFORE HE SHOT THE POLICE OFFICER, HE HAD ATTEMPTED TO ROB, HE, HE HAD ATTEMPTED TO CARJACK A WOMAN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN, WITHIN THE VICINITY OF WHERE HE SHOT THE POLICE OFFICER.
THE POLICE OFFICERS GOT ON THE SCENE, THEY ATTEMPTED TO STOP HIM, AND HE IMMEDIATELY OPENED FIRE.
SO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHY IS HE ON THE STREET? UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S, EVERYBODY'S, UM, UM, ELIGIBLE TO GET BOND.
UM, THE, UM, THE DA'S OFFICE CAN ARGUE, UH, FOR HIGHER BOND OR NO BOND.
UH, BUT EVERYBODY'S ELIGIBLE FOR IT.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
THE GUY WHO THREATENED TO BLOW UP D S D A COUPLE DAYS AGO, HE WAS IN JAIL FOR A DAY AND A HALF, AND HE'S OUT ON BOND NOW, $25,000 BOND.
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IT, IT, IT, IT, UH, IT BEGS THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE ON THE STREET? SO, AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, ARE YOU ALL ALERTED? SO WHEN SOMEBODY DOES DO A THREAT TO ATTACK THE CITY AND THEY'RE OUT ON BOND, DO YOU ALL GET NOTIFIED OR DO EVEN THE VICTIMS OF THESE CRIMES, DO THEY GET NOTIFIED AS WELL THAT PEOPLE ARE OUT ON BOND? WHEN, LET ME, LET ME ANSWER THE FIRST ONE.UH, IF, UM, YESTERDAY, WHEN, WHEN I, WHEN I WAS TWO, TWO DAYS AGO WHEN I WAS NOTIFIED BY IT, MIKE SHANNON NOTIFIED ME THAT THIS PERSON HAD MADE A THREAT AGAINST D S D.
UM, WE HAD HIM UNDER ARREST, UH, LESS THAN LESS THAN A DAY LATER.
I WENT TO THE JUDGE PERSONALLY YESTERDAY, YESTERDAY MORNING, AND REQUESTED A, UM, AN ANKLE MONITOR, HOUSE ARREST, UH, RESTRICTIONS WERE GOING NEAR D S D, UH, I THINK ONE OTHER THING.
AND THEY, UH, THE, THE JUDGE TOLD ME THAT THEY WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT.
UM, AS FAR AS BEING NOTIFIED, JESSE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE, OR JEN, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS IS? IF THEY LET SOMEONE OUT ON BOND WHO WAS, UH, FOR VIOLENT, EXCUSE ME, FOR VIOLENT CRIMES, THERE'S THIS BOND SYSTEM FOR, FOR VIOLENT CRIMES.
IT'S A VICTIM NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.
SO AS LONG AS THE VICTIM HAS REQUESTED THAT THEY GET THIS INFORMATION AND THEY'RE NOTIFIED, I CAN'T SAY IF IT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE PERSON'S IN JAIL LESS THAN 24 HOURS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES TO SET IT UP.
BUT THERE IS A PROCESS TO NOTIFY VICTIMS WHEN SOMEBODY IS RELEASED FROM JAIL.
UM, I THINK THIS HAS, UH, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD GET THIS DATA, BUT EVEN IN A, IN A SMALLER AMOUNT OF TIME? 'CAUSE THIS IS, IT'S 10 YEARS FROM THE BEXAR COUNTY CRIME RECORDS, BUT CAN WE SEE, JUST IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD EXTRA GET THAT DATA? YES, COUNCILWOMAN, WE CAN.
UH, THE REASON WHY WE DID SUCH AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, WE WANTED TO SEE THERE WAS A PATTERN OF INDIVIDUALS THAT PERHAPS COMMITTED A CRIME IN 2000 AND, AND FOLLOW THAT INDIVIDUAL THROUGHOUT A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY, THE AN WE HAVE THE DATA THAT WE CAN DO THE ANALYSIS, UH, IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME AS WELL.
UM, TO ADD TO WHAT THE CHIEF MENTIONED, THIS IS RELATIVELY NEW.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ARE, UM, PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION TO, TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH THIS FORUM, THROUGH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UH, THE CHIEF AS THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION.
AND I JUST WANNA GIVE CREDIT TO, UM, RIGHT BEHIND ME.
I HAVE MATT REED AND I HAVE, UH, ALSO, UH, UH, THOMAS, WHO ARE WITH THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION, WHO ACTUALLY DIG AND TOLD THIS RECORDS AND, AND DID THE ANALYSIS.
UM, SO RELATIVELY NEW THAT WE COMPLETED THIS WITHIN THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT WE ARE GONNA BE DOING IS SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH THE OLDER AGENCIES THERE ARE WITHIN THE JUSTICE SYSTEMS. UH, AGAIN, THIS IS NEW THAT WE, WE, UM, UH, IDENTIFY SOME AREAS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE AS AGENCIES.
NOT ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS STUCK TO EACH OTHER.
SO THE POLICE SYSTEM DOESN'T NECESSARILY SPEAK TO THE MAGISTRATION SYSTEM OR TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY SYSTEM.
SO WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES OF COLLABORATION AS WE DO MORE ANALYSIS AND TRY TO COME UP WITH, UH, PREVENTATIVE PROGRAMS, UH, THAT ALL AGENCIES CAN BENEFIT FROM.
TO SPECIFICALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE'LL BE HAPPY IF, IF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BROKEN DOWN IN, IN A DIFFERENT, UH, TIMEFRAME, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.
'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S PARTICULAR, IF WE'VE SEEN A TREND EVEN, UH, MORE RECENTLY TO SEE THAT, UM, THAT INCREASE OF PERCENTAGE OR NOT, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT IF IT'S IN A MEMO FORM, UH, CHAIR, THAT WOULD BE FINE TOO.
BUT THANK YOU ALSO FOR FOLLOWING UP WITH THAT OTHER INFORMATION.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S TALKING, BECAUSE IF YOU ALL ARE DOING ALL OF THESE ARRESTS AND YOU KNOW THAT THIS PERSON HAS ALREADY DONE THIS, AND THEN ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING AND THEY'RE RIGHT BACK OUT ON THE STREET, WHAT CAN WE DO TO PROTECT ALL OF SAN ANTON SAN ANTONIANS? UM, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, MAKING SURE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR RIGHTS.
UM, AND OUR PEOPLE ARE PROTECTED BY THEIR, UH, UH, RIGHTS.
UM, THEN MY OTHER QUESTION FOR SLIDE NUMBER 10, UM, THE CITYWIDE CRIME, IT'S TALKS ABOUT PART ONE U C R 2017, 4% DECREASE 2018, 16% INCREASE.
CAN WE GET THESE SAME DATA POINTS,
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UM, OR FIND IF THERE'S AN INCREASE OR A DECREASE IN THE N I B R S, UM, PORTION? ALL OF THAT CRIME DATA COLLECTED FROM N I B R S? CAN WE GET THAT AS WELL? YES OR NO? WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T STARTED COLLECTING THEIR ON DATE.WE HAVEN'T STARTED COLLECTING THE DATA IN THE BRS FORMAT YET, SO THERE'S NO COMPARISON TO BE MADE.
SO ONCE WE TRANSITION TO THE BRSS FORMAT FOR REPORTING, THEN WE, THEN, AFTER 2021, WE CAN CON, WE CAN BEGIN TO REPORT COMPARISONS IN THE BRS METRICS YEAR TO YEAR.
AND, AND WE, AND WE WILL SEE CRIME GO UP AS WE REPORT.
IS THIS THING ON? NO, IT'S NOT.
WE'LL SEE CRIME GO UP, UM, AS WE SWITCH TO THE NIBRS SYSTEM BECAUSE WE'RE REPORTING MORE CRIMES SURE.
THAN WE TYPICALLY WOULD UNDER U C R.
AND, AND JUST, JUST FOR COMPARISON'S SAKE, WE'LL REPORT BOTH IN THAT FIRST YEAR WHEN WE START DOING NIBRS, SO WE CAN STILL HAVE THAT U C R COMPARISON.
UM, AND SO I, I GUESS I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION WITH THE U C R.
AND, UM, SO WHY DO CITIES HAVE DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS? WHY UNDER THE U C R OR THE HOW YOU WERE, UM, EXPLAINING OR DESCRIBING HOW SOME CITIES CALL THIS, THIS, AND THIS.
WHY ISN'T THERE JUST ONE STANDARD THAT MAYBE THE F B I HAD PUT TOGETHER? THERE IS, THERE ARE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE CRITERIA, THERE ARE ELEMENTS THAT, THAT EACH CRIME HAS TO MEET UHHUH
AND IF THEY MEET THAT, THOSE ELEMENTS, THEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REPORTED AS A U C R CRIME, BUT THEY'RE NOT.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S AN ATTEMPT, WELL, I WON'T SAY WHAT IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO DO, BUT WHAT THE RESULT IS THAT, THAT IT REDUCES YOUR U C R NUMBERS, WHICH MAKES YOU LOOK BETTER, I GUESS IT MAKES, IT PAINTS A DIFFERENT PICTURE OF WHAT THE CRIME, UH, STATUS IS IN YOUR YES.
BUT IF, SO, IF THEY DOWNGRADE THE CRIME OR THEY DON'T REPORT IT WITH THE U C R THROUGH THE U C R, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO ARREST SOMEONE, DO THEY ARREST THEM UNDER THAT? SAY IF IT'S, UM, IF IT'S MURDER, THEY ARREST, OR IT'S THE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE AGGRAVATED ASSAULT AND THEY ARREST THAT INDIVIDUAL AND THEN THEY TRY TO CHARGE THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT RECORDED UNDER AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, BUT THEY'RE STILL CHARGED WITH AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS OR NO, THEY'LL ARREST THEM FOR A ELECTRIC CHARGE.
FOR, I, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
NEW YORK CITY BACK WHEN, WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE WAS THERE, SOMEBODY ELSE WAS THERE.
LIKE IF, IF SOMEBODY TOOK A SHOT AT ME AND I GOT INJURED BY GLASS OR SOMETHING, UNLESS THERE WAS AN, UNLESS THE GUY WAS SHOT, THEY WEREN'T REPORTING IT AS A, AS A, UH, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.
THEY WERE REPORTING IT AS A SIMPLE ASSAULT.
AND, AND, AND THE, THE, THE CHIEF THAT CAME ALONG, THE COMMISSIONER CAME ALONG.
THE COMMISSIONER THAT CAME ALONG AFTER THIS WAS HAPPENING, REPORTED IT REPORTED.
AND THEN A GUY BY THE NAME OF KELLY, HE REPORTED THAT THE CHIEF OR THE COMMISSIONER PRIOR TO HIM WAS DOWNGRADING THESE REPORTS IN ORDER TO CUT CRIME.
ON PAPER AND, AND COUNCILWOMAN.
THE, UH, THERE'S NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THE U C R REPORTING AND THE PROSECUTION ON, ON THE DA.
SO IT'S STRICTLY FOR US LAW ENFORCEMENT TO REPORT THE CRIME AND THE ARREST OF THE OFFENDER AS A CLEARANCE OF THAT CRIME.
BUT IT DOESN'T IMPEDE OR AFFECT THAT, THAT ULTIMATE PROSECUTION OF THAT.
SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY CONNECTED IN THAT REGARD.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL THE THANK YOU FOR THIS.
IT HELPS BRING UNDERSTANDING FOR ME TOO.
COUNCILWOMAN, COUNCILWOMAN, ANDREW SULLIVAN.
UH, CHIEF, I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT DISTRICT TWO IS, IS ONE OF THE MOST INUNDATED PARTS OF THE CITY THAT, THAT SEES THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AS, AS THEY CONTINUE TO ESCALATE, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER.
BUT WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THE, UH, SPECIAL TASK UNIT AND THE, THE CRIME UNITS AND TASK FORCE.
AND WE APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHEN THEIR PRESENCE IS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE FOR YOU, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT WE'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN THE U C R, UM, AND I B R S, UM, WHEN IT COMES
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AND RELATES TO GANG ACTIVITY BEING THAT GANG ACTIVITY HAS MULTIPLE LEVELS OF CRIMES.WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, IS THAT WHERE WE'LL SEE KIND OF THE SPIKE TAKE PLACE? OR IS THIS JUST BROUGHT ACROSS THE BOARD? NO, IT'S JUST BROUGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND THEN I KNOW WE HAVE A, UM, A DART TEAM.
UH, IS, ARE THE DART RELATED INCIDENTS OR WHAT THEY RESPOND TO, IS THAT ANYWHERE IN THIS STATISTICS AND, AND THE CRIMES THAT ARE KIND OF PUT INTO THE U C R AS WELL? WELL, THERE, I MEAN, THE, THE DART, IF A DART IS INITIATED, IT'S INITIATED BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CALLS, UH, TO THE POLICE AND THE NUMBER OF CRIMES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN A PARTICULAR, UH, BUILDING OR BUSINESS.
BUT IT DOESN'T FALL INTO THIS STATISTICAL REPORT? NO, MA'AM.
UM, AND THEN I KNOW ON THE, THE ISSUE OF THE, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH STANCE FOR THE REPEAT OFFENDER ANALYSIS, UM, IS MENTAL HEALTH BEING TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT THE, THE PUBLIC HEALTH SIDE OF, OF REPEAT OFFENDERS? YES, MA'AM.
I THINK IT, I MEAN, WE, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT ALL FACETS OF THAT.
I MEAN, WE, IF WE WERE TO LEAVE ONE OUT, I THINK THE, THE, UH, THE EXERCISE WOULD BE INCOMPLETE.
AND THEN UNDER THE REPEAT OFFENDERS AS WELL, IS THERE A BREAKDOWN OF THE AGE THAT THE CRIMINAL RECORDS STARTED TO THE DATE THAT WE, WE LOOK AT THE, THE LAST OFFENSE THAT WAS, WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, UM, IS, IS THAT ANYWHERE? I, I, I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ALSO CHOSE THAT 10 YEAR WINDOW, IS 'CAUSE THAT ALLOWS SOMEBODY TO BE CHARGED WITH UP TO A 10, OR EXCUSE ME, SENTENCE WITH UP TO A 10 YEAR SENTENCE, AND THEY GET RELEASED AND RE-OFFEND.
SO THE SHORTER, UM, THE SHORTER TIME SPAN WE LOOK AT THAT, THE MORE LIKELY THE OFFENDERS IS TO STILL BE IN JAIL, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, AND I GUESS I, I'LL, I'LL JUST HAVE THIS, THIS LAST QUESTION AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO HOW DEMOGRAPHICS, THE DIS THE DISTRICT COMPOSITION, UM, THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS, IS ALL THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS COMPLETE BREAKDOWN OF ANALYSIS? I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING COUNCILWOMAN.
SO AGE, UH, RACE, WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIVING, WHAT SIDE OF TOWN THIS IS HAPPENING ON, WHAT IS THE MOST PROMINENT AREA? IS, IS ALL THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT? YES, MA'AM.
AND THEN WHEN IS THE TURNOVER, UM, GONNA HAPPEN FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM? I KNOW YOU SAID THEY'RE TRANSITIONING TO REPORT TO YOU.
THE, YOU MEAN THE CHANGE TO, TO THE REPORTING TO, UM, WHEN, WHEN ARE WE GONNA DO THAT? JUST, UH, UH, OCTOBER.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT RESULTS, I SEE THAT AS FAR AS SPECIAL PROJECTS, WE'VE GONE DOWN A LITTLE.
UM, ARE THERE ANY SPECIAL PROJECTS OR, OR ANY, UM, ACTIVITIES THAT ARE COMING SOON THAT WE CAN START GETTING OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO YOUTH AND SCHOOLS AND, AND COMMUNITIES AND CHURCHES? UH, I CAN LET YOU KNOW ON THAT, UH, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN THIS SLIDE THOUGH IS YEAR TO DATE.
BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING COMING UP ON THE, IN YOUR DISTRICT.
UH, GOOD INFORMATION PRESENTED HERE.
UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, I TOO AM UH, CONCERNED ABOUT THE REPEAT OFFENDER ANALYSIS HERE, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY Y'ALL PICKED A, A LONG TIME.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN OF YOUR GROUND ABOUT, UH, BREAKING THAT OUT INTO MORE RECENT RESULTS AND ACTUALLY SHOWING IT ON BY YOUR METRIC, KIND OF WHAT YOU'VE, WHAT YOU'VE SHOWN ON THESE OTHER TABLES, YOU KNOW, IF, IS THERE A DECREASE? IS THERE AN INCREASE, UM, SHOWING THAT, UM, OVER, OVER TIME? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE GREAT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, UM, YOU SAID YOU'RE GETTING THIS FROM BEXAR COUNTY CRIME RECORDS.
UM, HAS THE DA SEEN THESE, THESE NUMBERS? NO, WE'VE NOT SHARED 'EM WITH THE DA.
I'D, I'D LIKE TO GET THE DA TO KIND OF GET IN, IN THIS PROCESS ALSO ON REPORTING NUMBERS TO THIS COMMITTEE TO SEE IF THEY AGREE OR DISAGREE OR AGREE TO DISAGREE, WHATEVER.
UH, BUT TO GET THEM IN THE COORDINATION LINE, UM, ON INFORMATION BEING PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE.
UM, SO YEAH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
ALSO, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE OUT ON THE STREET THAT'S BEEN CONVICTED
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BEFORE AND, UM, STILL OUT THERE COMMITTING CRIMES.YOU KNOW, THIS, THAT REVOLVING DOOR CONCEPT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE I STARTED, UH, ON THE STREET.
AND IT MUCH TO MY CHAGRIN, I, I THINK IT'S ANECDOTALLY ANYWAY, I THINK IT'S GETTING WORSE.
THERE'S NOTHING MORE FRUSTRATING TO POLICE THAN WHEN YOU ARREST SOMEBODY AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, OR YOU ARREST SOMEBODY AND, AND THEIR RECORD SHOWS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A HISTORY AS LONG AS YOUR ARM, BUT THEY'RE STILL OUT ON THE STREET.
AND, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHY THIS IS SO PROBLEM.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS IS SO PROBLEMATIC.
W WE HAVE, UM, CHALLENGES WITH, WITH ROBBERIES, UH, PEOPLE BREAKING INTO CARS, UH, PEOPLE BREAKING INTO HOUSES.
AND PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET UP ONE MORNING AND DECIDE YOU'RE GONNA BREAK INTO A HOUSE.
YOU DON'T GET UP ONE MORNING AND DECIDE YOU'RE GONNA GO ROB A STORE.
THEY DO THIS FOR A LIVING, AND THEY DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
AND OUR ROBBERY UNIT, ONE THING YOU CAN BE SURE OF IT, WHEN YOU SEE A PATTERN, THEY'RE GONNA GET IT.
THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE AN ARREST.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN THEY, BUT, BUT IT, IT HAPPENS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE WHAT COUNT AGAINST OUR U C R STATS WHEN WE HAVE ROBBERY, AFTER ROBBERY, AFTER ROBBERY.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S FRUSTRATING TO SEE THE GREAT WORK THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE DOING ONLY TO HAVE THESE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, BACK RUNNING THE STREETS AGAIN AND DOING THE SAME THING.
AND THAT'S, I'M GONNA SAY THIS AGAIN BECAUSE I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, AND THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS WITH THE SITE AND RELEASE PROGRAM THERE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A RECORD OF ANYBODY UNDER THE SITE AND RELEASE.
AND THAT PATTERN OF CONTINUING TO DO THAT AND NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, YOU KNOW, SITE AND RELEASE, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT SHOW UP TO A COURT DATE.
UH, THEY, THEY MAY ESCALATE IN THEIR CRIME ACTIVITY.
SO WE WON'T EVEN HAVE THAT RECORD OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT, UH, HAVE BEEN UNDER THAT PROGRAM ACCORDING TO THE DA.
SO, I'M, I'M VERY STILL, I, I'M STILL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PROGRAM.
AND I THINK IT, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WILL ONLY ADD TO, UH, THAT CHART NUMBER NINE THAT SAYS FOLKS HAVE BEEN IN TROUBLE BEFORE MM-HMM.
BUT WITH SITE AND RELEASE, YOU WON'T HAVE THAT RECORD.
SO I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
UH, ON, UH, CHART NUMBER 11 AND 12, UH, I, I, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, CHIEF, BE CAREFUL ABOUT COMPARISONS, BUT, UM, ESPECIALLY ON CHART NUMBER 11, I, I'D LIKE TO, IF YOU SHOW THESE AGAIN TO ADD, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TEXAS CITIES IN THERE, UM, HOUSTON, DALLAS, AUSTIN MM-HMM.
YOU DO HAVE DALLAS AND, AND HOUSTON ON THERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OTHER TEXAS CITIES ON THERE AS WELL.
UM, AND WHEN YOU MAKE THAT TRANSITION TO THE NEIGHBORS, YOU SAID IN 2021 IS WHEN WE'LL START CORRECT REPORTING.
UM, DO YOU SUSPECT, YOU ALREADY SAID THAT THE, SINCE IT'S MULTIPLE CRIMES, THAT IT, IT'LL PROBABLY INCREASE.
UM, DO YOU SEE THAT, DO YOU SEE THAT LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD BETWEEN ALL THE DIFFERENT CITIES AND HOW THEY'RE REPORTING? I SEE SOME HEADS SHAKING OVER THERE.
NO, IT, IT'S, IT'LL BE THE SAME.
IT'LL BE THE SAME TYPE OF, UM, I MEAN, THEY STILL HAVE DISCRETION ON HOW THEY'RE GONNA REPORT THE CRIME.
SO, UM, I, I, AND, AND FOR YEARS, YOU KNOW, I'VE PUSHED TO, TO, I'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT DON'T COMPARE THESE, THESE CITIES.
MATTER OF FACT, IF I CAN JUST GIMME A SECOND HERE.
THIS IS DIRECTLY OFF THE, THE U C R WEBPAGE CRIME REPORTING PRACTICES OF THE CITIZEN.
WELL, THE U C R PROGRAM PROVIDES A NATIONWIDE VIEW OF CRIME BASED ON STATISTICS CONTRIBUTED BY LOCAL, COUNTY, STATE, TRIBAL, AND FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
POPULATION SIZE IS THE ONLY CORRELATE OF CRIME PRESENTED IN THIS PUBLICATION.
ALTHOUGH MANY OF THE LISTED FACTORS EQUALLY AFFECT CRIME OF A PARTICULAR AREA.
THE U C R PROGRAM MAKES NO ATTEMPT TO RELATE THEM TO THE DATA PRESENTED.
THE DATA USER IS THEREFORE CAUTIONED AGAINST COMPARING STATISTICAL DATA OF INDIVIDUAL, INDIVIDUAL REPORTING UNITS FROM CITIES, COUNTIES, METROPOLITAN AREAS, STATES, OR COLLEGES OR UNIVERSITIES SOLELY ON THE BASIS OF THEIR POPULATION COVERAGE OR THEIR STUDENT ENROLLMENT.
UNTIL THE DATA USERS EXAMINE ALL OF THE VARIABLES THAT
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AFFECT CRIME IN A TOWN, CITY, COUNTY, STATE, REGION, OR OF THE JURISDICTION, THEY CAN MAKE NO MEANINGFUL COMPARISONS.AND THAT DOESN'T EVEN MENTION THAT ABOUT THE REPORTING DIFFERENCES, ABOUT THE CRI REPORTING CRITERIA DIFFERENCES, BUT THEY'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE DEMOGRAPHY OF IT ALL.
UM, AND COUNCILMAN, REAL QUICK, IF I CAN ADD, JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK WHAT THE CHIEF'S SAYING IS, WE'RE NOT SAYING CRIME WILL INCREASE, BUT THE REPORTING IS GONNA INCREASE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA REPORT ON MORE.
IT'S GONNA BE MORE SPECIFIC DATA, WHICH RIGHT.
I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE FOND OF, YOU'D LIKE THE DATA.
SO I MEAN, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE BETTER IN THAT REGARD.
UM, SO IT MAY APPEAR AS THERE'S AN INCREASE, BUT THAT IT'S JUST SO UNDER THE U C R SUMMARY REPORTING WHERE YOU ONLY REPORT THE HIGHEST WHEN IT MAY HAVE NOT REPORTED SOME OF THOSE OTHER CRIMES PREVIOUSLY.
SO IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AN ACTUAL CRIME INCREASE, BUT IT'LL, IT'LL BE REPORTED MORE, IF THAT'S FAIR.
AND, AND I CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS, THIS IS TAKING IT TO THE NEXT STEP, THE NEIGHBORS TO, YOU KNOW, DETAIL IT OUT MORE.
AND I, I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD TAKE SOME OF THE FLEXIBILITY AWAY FROM, UM, WHOEVER TO KIND OF FUDGE THE NUMBERS AROUND, CHANGE IT AROUND, THAT KIND OF THING.
YOU WOULD THINK IT ACTUALLY WOULDN'T, IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T, THERE'S STILL THAT DISCRETION ON WHETHER TO CALL IT AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT OR A SIMPLE ASSAULT.
THERE'S STILL THAT DISCRETION.
UH, ONE OTHER CHART THAT I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE NEXT TIME WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU BRING THESE STATISTICS IN, AND AGAIN, COMPARISON CHART TO ESPECIALLY OTHER TEXAS CITIES, IS, UH, THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS PORT PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO HAVE THAT ON THERE, JUST TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, WE GOT EXCELLENT OFFICERS OUT ON THE STREETS.
THEY'RE DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB THAN THESE OTHER CITIES AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TRACKING THE ANALYSIS, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING TODAY VERSUS HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE, HOW MANY OFFICERS WE HAVE PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO THAT, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT, THAT GRAPH ADDED IN HERE AS WELL.
UM, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M GOING TO, IT'S NOT PART OF THIS, ALTHOUGH IT IS A PART OF THIS, UM, WE'RE SEEING A DRAMATIC IN INCREASE IN COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS.
AND THIS ISN'T JUST IN MY DISTRICT, THIS IS CITYWIDE, AND WE HAVE GOT TO COME UP WITH A BETTER WAY OF HANDLING THIS.
I, I DON'T KNOW, KNOW WHAT THAT BETTER WAY IS.
I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME MORE IDEAS ON HOW WE CAN CONTROL THE HOMELESS POPULATIONS.
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ENCAMPMENTS, UM, STARTING FIRES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TRASH AND THE FILTH AND EVERYTHING THAT BUILDS UP THESE ENCAMPMENTS IS REALLY, REALLY, UH, INCREASING.
AND YOU TAKE ONE ENCAMPMENT DOWN FROM HERE, THEY MOVE JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE STORY ON THIS AND, AND WE'RE, UH, OUR SAFE OFFICERS, OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, UH, TEAM THAT GOES OUT TO HELP, HELP THE, HELP THESE ENCAMPMENTS TO GET THE HELP THAT THEY NEED.
BUT, UM, WE'RE BEING INUNDATED WITH CALLS ABOUT THE HOMELESS POPULATION HERE.
AND, UH, MAYBE WE NEED A, ANOTHER SPECIAL COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING TO COME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE CAN BETTER HANDLE THIS TO GET THE HELP TO THOSE FOLKS THAT NEED IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RUN INTO SO MANY OF 'EM OUT THERE THAT DON'T WANT THE HELP, AND THEY JUST MOVE DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT AND STILL CREATE PROBLEMS WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES.
WHAT, WHAT ELSE IS THERE THAT WE CAN DO? AND MARIA, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, BUT IT WOULD SURE BE GREAT THAT WE COULD HAVE A, ANOTHER COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING TO SIT DOWN AND START FOCUSING IN ON THIS, BECAUSE, UH, I FEEL THAT IT'S GETTING WORSE AND THE, THE, THE, UH, COMPLAINTS ARE GROWING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK MARIA HAS THE ANSWERS.
SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GIVE HER THE FLOOR.
UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY LAST COMMENT.
UM, UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY, I, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IF, IF, UH, CHAIRWOMAN, UH, SANDOVAL IS OKAY WITH THIS, WE CAN BRING TO A SUBSEQUENT PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE A, A PRESENTATION TO SHOW THE INTERNAL EFFORTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ACROSS THE CITY.
UM, I'VE HEARD FROM COUNCILWOMAN VIA GRANT AND ALSO FROM YOU THAT THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT ENCAMPMENTS AND, AND YOUR DISTRICTS AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THAT BRINGS TO THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, THE FRUSTRATION FROM OUR RESIDENTS OF SEEING THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
UM, SO IF, IF THE COUNCILWOMAN, UH, IS, IS COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, OUR CHAIRWOMAN, WE CAN BEGIN THE CONVERSATION WITH BRINGING, UM,
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SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING AND, AND WE ARE HAVING INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS, HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT BETTER AND, AND SHARE THOSE, UM, UH, THOUGHTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.'CAUSE I, OUR SAFE OFFICERS UP THERE IN DISTRICT 10, THAT'S PRIMARILY WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW, IS JUST DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING, BUT THEY'RE BEING PULLED AWAY TO DEAL SPECIFICALLY FOR THE HOMELESS.
I, I, I WILL SAY THIS, UH, ON A POSITIVE NOTE THAT AS, AS CHALLENGING AS IT MAY BE, WE ARE DOING PRETTY GOOD AS A CITY, UH, WORKING WITH THE HOMELESS AND TRYING TO PROVIDE THEM THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED.
THERE WAS A DELEGATION HERE FROM INDIANAPOLIS THIS WEEK.
THERE WERE OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE FROM INDIANAPOLIS HERE LOOKING AT WHAT WE DO, UH, IN TERMS OF OUR HOMELESS.
AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY DELEGATION THAT'S BEEN HERE, UM, WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS TRYING BECAUSE, BECAUSE NATIONALLY WE'RE KNOWN AS DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THE HOMELESS.
AND IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK, UH, AT OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY, WELL EVERYWHERE, NOT JUST GOING WEST, BUT WEST, EAST, NORTH, SOUTH, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE EVEN CLOSE TO THE HANDLE ON IT THAT WE DO.
AND, AND PART OF THAT HANDLE THAT MAKES US SO GOOD AT IT, I THINK, DESPITE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE STILL HAVE WITH THE ENCAMPMENTS AND THE PANHANDLING, UH, IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE KENNY WILSON OVER AT THE, UH, THE, UH, HAVEN.
WE'VE GOT RON BROWN OVER AT THE HAVEN, AND THOSE GUYS DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
AND THEY ARE REALLY, REALLY GOOD PARTNERS OF OURS.
SO THE, THE FIRST THING WE DO WHEN WE COME ACROSS A, AN ENCAMPMENT IS WE CALL RON BROWN AND THEY'LL HAVE VANS OUT THERE TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE TO TAKE THEIR THINGS WITH THEM.
IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GO, THEY DON'T GO.
BUT, UH, WE, WE WORK VERY, VERY WELL WITH OUR HOMELESS ADVOCATES IN THE CITY HERE TO INCLUDE DHS.
AND, UH, WE HAVE A DHS, WE HAVE A GO BACK WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN VIA GOOD.
BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE BUDGET WE'RE ALLOCATING A MILLION DOLLARS IN LOOKING AT 500,000 FOR ONE AREA AND 500,000 FOR OUR HOMELESS, UH, STRATEGY, HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THAT.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE A PART OF IT.
YOU ALL THE POLICE ARE PART OF IT.
I WANT TO DEFINITELY BE A PART OF IT.
BUT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS STRATEGY, UM, CAN WE MAYBE GET AN UPDATE OF WHERE, AT THIS COMMITTEE LEVEL, WHENEVER THE STRAT, THE, THE GROUPS, THE STAKEHOLDERS COME TOGETHER, JUST GIVING US AN, UM, THESE UPDATES WHERE YOU ALL ARE AND THE, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
AND TO THE POINT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN MADE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT RESULTS.
AND I THINK, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT JUST THE DIFFERENT, UH, COFFEE WITH THE COPS AND OTHER THINGS THAT YOU DO.
SOME OF OUR, UH, SAFE OFFICERS ARE GOING DOWN, UM, ON BIKES NOW IN AND AROUND OUR AREA IN THE DISTRICT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR OFFICERS OR SAFE OFFICERS HAVE TOLD US, MARIA, THOUGH, IS THAT THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO OUTRUN DOGS THAT ARE CHASING THEM ON THEIR BIKES IN, IN THE STREET.
SO WE HAVE TO WORK ON THAT, UH, COORDINATE THAT EFFORT.
BUT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, I KNOW THE HOPE TEAM GOT MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET AS WELL.
'CAUSE THEY'RE A VERY BIG PART OF THIS.
BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE IDEAS.
SO I'M GLAD THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION IS HERE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT, 'CAUSE THIS BUDGET, MARIA, 64.3% WAS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND IN THE PAST IT USED, IT WAS 66% AND WE WENT DOWN TO 65%.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I LOOK AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, VERY SIMILAR NOW TO THE WAY I SEE OUR PUBLIC LIBRARY.
WE ASKED THEM TO DO A LOT OF CROSSOVER WORK THAT IS HAPPENING, AND IT'S IMPORTANT.
AND THEY'RE, WE HAVE TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT LOOKING AT LEAST AT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET AND SEEING DO WE INCREASE THAT PERCENTAGE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE ARE UTILIZING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THESE DIFFERENT CREATIVE AREAS.
SO I KNOW OUR POLICY FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE HAS BEEN KEEPING IT AT 66%.
BUT ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, OR, OR 64%, 65% NOW, AND I KNOW IT'S NOW BAKED INTO THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AT SOME POINT, BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN EVEN INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY, AT LEAST IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOMETHING CREATIVE IN THIS HOMELESS STRATEGY OR OTHER STRATEGIES IN THE FUTURE? I JUST WANTED
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TO PUT IT OUT THERE, IS WE'RE HAVING THIS HOMELESS STRATEGY CONVERSATION AND ALL THE WORK THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALL THE CALLS THAT WE'RE GETTING, AND WITH OUR STRONG FAMILIES INITIATIVES, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE? SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.UM, THANK YOU CHIEF FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY AND MARIA, FOR, FOR PREPARING THIS, UH, MY REQUEST HAD BEEN TO GET A, A FEEL OF THE LANDSCAPE, UH, FOR THE, THE STATUS OF CRIME IN OUR CITY.
SO YOU GAVE US A FLAVOR OF THAT.
UM, WHAT I WOULD, UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK JUST A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THE, THE U C S, SORRY, THE U C R DATA IS SUBMITTED QUARTERLY TO THE F B I.
IS THAT, UH, PROVIDED TO ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY BEFORE IT GOES TO THE F B I? NO, MA'AM.
UM, MARIA, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET, UH, JUST A MEMO WHEN THE SUBMISSION GOES THROUGH, UH, IF, IF MY COUNCIL MEMBER, IF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD, WOULD CARE TO SEE THAT, THAT REPORT AS WELL? NO.
YES, I CAN ANSWER PART OF THAT TEST.
THE REASON IT'S NOT DISTRIBUTED IS BECAUSE BY THE, BEFORE IT BECOMES, OKAY, WHAT I COULD OFFER COUNCILWOMEN IS ONCE WE GET THE GREEN LIGHT FROM D P S, IS THAT THE ORGANIZATION THAT REVIEWS THE DATA, WE WILL IMMEDIATELY, UH, PROVIDE A REPORT TO THIS COUNCIL.
IF THAT'S, IF THAT, IF YOU WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY, UH, AN OPTION.
UM, WHAT, WHAT I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO, TO SUGGEST.
AND IF THE, IF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, AGREE, WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE HAVING AN ANNUAL REPORT OF THAT TYPE OF DATA, AS WELL AS OTHER INFORMATION THAT YOU THINK COULD BE HELPFUL, UH, TO US.
UM, THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE REQUEST EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR OR WHEN I REMEMBER TO, BUT THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT REPORTS TO US.
SO YOU SAID THE 2018 ISN'T AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, UM, BUT WHEN DO YOU THINK IT'LL, AT WHAT POINT IN THE YEAR IS IT? IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IN OCTOBER.
SO MARIA, IF YOU WANNA THINK ABOUT WHEN IS THE, IF YOU WANNA WORK ON WITH THE TEAM ON WHEN IS THE BEST TIME TO PRODUCE SOMETHING, SOMETHING I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE IN THAT REPORT IS AN EXPLANATION OF THE METHODOLOGY THAT YOU HAVE OF HOW YOU CLASSIFY YOUR, UH, THE CRIMES.
LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF VARIATION FROM CITY TO CITY, BUT IT'S GOOD FOR US TO KNOW THAT WE KEEP A CONSISTENT PROTOCOL.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
SO WE CAN DO OUR YEAR TO YEAR COMPARISONS.
I THINK YEAR TO YEAR COMPARISONS WOULD BE, UH, GOOD TO SEE IN THAT REPORT.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE DO ON CASES RESOLVED.
UH, HOW MANY CASES ARE, UH, ARE OPEN, HOW MANY WE ACTUALLY CLOSED, AND, UH, AND HOW MANY WERE, WERE CLOSED IN A GOOD WAY, I GUESS, AND CLOSED BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE ANY PROGRESS ON THEM.
AND I THINK INFORMATION LIKE THIS GETS TO THE POINT THAT THE COUNCILWOMAN BROUGHT UP IS ARE WE PUTTING OUR RESOURCES WHERE THEY NEED TO BE OR DO YOU NEED MORE RESOURCES? UM, AND ALSO JUST THAT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SERVICES YOU'RE PROVIDING RIGHT NOW.
ARE WE, ARE WE ASKING TOO MUCH? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE, UH, SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT, UM, YES, IF WE, WELL, I, I PUT THAT OUT THERE.
IS ARE THERE ANY HEAD NODDINGS REGARDING AN ANNUAL REPORT? NO.
UM, UH, REGARDING THE WORK THAT, UH, MATT AND THOMAS DID ON REPEAT OFFENDERS, THAT'S PHENOMENAL.
UH, WORK, I FIND IT FASCINATING.
IT WAS ONLY ONE SLIDE IN THIS PRESENTATION, AND I'M SURE YOU COULD HAVE SPENT AN HOUR TELLING US HOW YOU DID IT AND WHAT IT MEANS.
UM, I WOULD, IF YOU HAVE THE, IF THE STAFF HAS THE TIME, MARIA, I WOULD ENCOURAGE SOME SORT OF REPORT ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY THE INFORMATION BEHIND IT THAT HELPS US USE IT IN A WAY TO, TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
OR DO YOU HAVE PLANS TO USE THAT INFORMATION SOMEHOW TO USE WE DO, WE DO, WORKING WITH DR.
BRIDGER, UHHUH
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS YET, BUT RIGHT, RIGHT.
BRIDGER WILL, I'M SURE, COME UP WITH A BRILLIANT IDEA WITH SOMETHING
UM, AND THEN JUST A, A QUICK CLARIFICATION.
YOU SAID, UH, HAD A, THERE WERE ALL IN THE SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED FOR THAT THERE WERE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF DESCRIPTIONS THAT YOU SAID SOME HAD A CRIMINAL, SOME HAD A VIOLENT CRIMINAL HISTORY.
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IF SOMEONE COULD, UH, EMAIL US LATER WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN ALL OF THOSE? I CAN'T, SORRY, I CAN'T PULL IT UP.SO YOU HAD CRIME, VIOLENT CRIME, VIOLENT CRIME COMMITTED BY PERSON WITH VIOLENT CRIMINAL RECORD.
WHEN YOU, I'LL JUST ASK ONE QUESTION.
WHEN YOU SAY CRIMINAL OR RECORD, IS THAT A CONVICTION OR IS THAT AN ARREST? WHICH ONE? WHICH WE USE MATT.
UM, DID YOU PARSE THAT OUT BETWEEN CONVICTION AND ARREST AT SOME POINT? YEAH.
YOU GUYS PROBABLY HAVE LIKE ALL THESE CROSS TABLES OR PIVOT TABLES THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS TYPE OF WORK, RIGHT.
UM, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW AND THEN, UH, ON THIS TOPIC.
UH, I DO WANNA ADD ON TO THE CONVERSATION REGARDING RESOURCES.
UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR US TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THIN YOUR MEN ARE SPREAD YOUR FORCE.
SORRY, IS, IS SPREAD, BUT ALSO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ARE OUR, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS OF OUR CONTRACT WITH THE POLICE UNION.
UM, WE WANNA UNDERSTAND THAT TOO, AND THAT HOW, HOW THAT IMPACTS OR HELPS OUR, OUR ABILITY TO, TO PROVIDE SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT THAT WILL COME UP FOR, FOR RENEGOTIATION.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO BE INFORMED ABOUT THE DETAILS OF, OF THAT.
UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NEXT MONTH.
I KNOW WE HAVE A, A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT JUST PUT IT ON THE QUEUE.
AND IN TERMS OF, OF HOMELESSNESS.
I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY MAKES A GREAT POINT THAT WE ARE SEEING THINGS TODAY THAT WE'VE NEVER SEEN IN SAN ANTONIO BEFORE AT HIGHER NUMBERS.
AND, AND, BUT I WOULD ALSO ECHO THE CHIEF.
IF YOU GO TO OTHER PLACES, IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
IT'S, UM, THERE ARE WHOLE ZIP CODES WHERE YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH WITHOUT RUNNING INTO LEVELS OF, OF ENCAMPMENTS OR, OR PEOPLE WHO, WHOSE LIVING ROOM IS BASICALLY THE SIDEWALK THAT, THAT YOU WALK THROUGH.
SO WE ARE STILL IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE THAN OTHER, THAN OTHER PLACES.
NONETHELESS, I THINK OUR COMMUNITY IS CLAMORING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND THAT'S REALLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHO WE ANSWER TO.
UM, BUT THIS IS REALLY A MULTIFACETED APPROACH, RIGHT? IT'S, UH, IT HAS TO DO WITH HEALTH, IT HAS TO DO WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
IT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, HOW WE DEVELOP OUR COMMUNITY AND IS THERE ACCESS TO, TO HOUSING.
SO I, I THINK A PRESENTATION OF THE SERVICES IS, IS GOOD, BUT I I ALSO WONDER IF THAT'S GOOD FOR A B SESSION DISCUSSION TOO, UM, AS WELL.
SO I WOULD JUST FLOAT THAT OUT THERE AND, AND LET YOU GUYS, UH, DISCUSS THAT.
UM, SO THAT HAS BEEN PLENTY OF CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR FIRST ITEM.
AND, UH, IF, IF, IF I COULD MAKE ONE CLOSING STATEMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, OUR OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE 24 7, AS Y'ALL KNOW, AND THEY'RE ARRESTING PEOPLE MORE THAN THEY'VE EVER ARRESTED THEM BEFORE.
THEY STAY, THEY'VE STAYED UP OVER THE YEARS AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE FIGHT TO KEEP THOSE NUMBERS DOWN.
UM, AND THE, THE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION ARE, ARE IN THE LEAST VERY FRUSTRATING TO US IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THOSE NUMBERS DOWN.
UM, SAN ANTONIO IS A SAFE CITY.
I I, AND I SAY THIS AT EVERY COMMUNITY MEETING, THAT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE THE VICTIM OF A VIOLENT CRIME WITH EXCEPTION, YOU ARE LIVING A RISKY LIFESTYLE.
UH, AND AGAIN, I NO, NO DISRESPECT INTENDED TO THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN ROBBED AT GUN POINTING IN STORES AND WHATNOT, BUT, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, ALL THE STREET VIOLENCE, MAJORITY OF THE STREET VIOLENCE IS, IS BECAUSE OF RISKY BEHAVIOR.
UH, SO SAN ANTONIO'S A SAFE CITY AND, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL KEEP WORKING VERY, VERY HARD TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
THANK YOU, CHIEF, AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO, WHO PROTECT US.
UM, WE, I THINK YOU DO A, A GREAT JOB, A TREMENDOUS JOB.
AND I KNOW THE PRESENTATION TODAY FOCUSES ON ALL THE THINGS THAT GO WRONG, AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
THEY'RE JUST, THEY, THEY ARE METRICS.
UM, BUT NONETHELESS, WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU, ALL OF YOUR SERVICE, AND THANKS TO THE WHOLE, UH, TEAM WHO CAME OUT TODAY.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN UPDATE ON THE NATIONAL INCIDENTS BASED REPORTING SYSTEM THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
AS YOU HEARD, UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A, UH, RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING
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THIS, UH, R M S SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IS NOTUH, SO WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS OF, UH, PROCURING THAT NEW SYSTEM.
SO THIS PRESENTATION WILL GIVE YOU, AGAIN, AN IDEA ON THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN U C R REPORTING,
UH, AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER, UH, TO CHIEF MCMANUS FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
SO AT LEAST THE BEGINNING PART OF THIS, YOU WILL HEAR THE SAME, UM, EXPLANATIONS AS YOU'VE HEARD IN IN THE LAST PRESENTATION.
UM, SO WE'RE TALKING HERE AGAIN ABOUT F B I, ABOUT N UH, U C R VERSUS NBRS.
UH, AND AGAIN, THAT, THAT CHANGE IS GONNA, IS REQUIRED BY THE F B I, UH, TO HAPPEN IN ON JANUARY 1ST, 2021.
UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING A NEW R M S SYSTEM THAT IS NBRS COMPLIANT.
IT WILL WORK IN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH NBRS.
UM, AND THE, OUR CURRENT I, UH, R M S SYSTEM IS NOT BRSS COMPLIANT.
UH, NOR DOES IT HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF BEING CHANGED INTO BEING BRS COMPLIANT.
UH, ON YOUR NEXT SLIDE, YOU SEE THOSE, UH, THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN U C R CRIMES AND THE BRS CRIMES AND JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST AS, AS A NOTE, WHEN, WHEN I GO TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS, I DON'T HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT FRAUD OR EMBEZZLEMENT OR ID THEFT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOUR, ARE YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES, UH, YOUR BURGLARIES, YOUR VEHICLE OR HOUSE, YOUR, YOUR NOISY NEIGHBORS, UH, GANGS, HANGING ON THE CORNERS, NARCOTIC SALES.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I HEAR 99% FROM FOLKS AT THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND THESE, ALL THE NEIGHBORS TYPE, UH, OFFENSES THAT WE'LL BE REPORTING, SOME OF THEM, UH, DEAL WITH THAT.
BUT, UM, YOU DON'T GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AND HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT MURDER, UH, OR, UM, UM, IT'S, IT'S THE CONSTANT CHRONIC STUFF THAT GOES ON IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU HEAR MOST ABOUT.
UM, AT, AT THIS POINT, I'M AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO KAREN AND CAPTAIN FALS.
I'LL LET HER RUN WITH IT FROM HERE.
A LOT OF THIS IS GONNA BE KIND OF, UH, A BLEED OVER FROM THE FIRST PRESENTATION.
UM, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT BUILDS UP AS TO WHY WE NEEDED TO ACQUIRE A NEW RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS THAT FEDERAL MANDATE OF NEIGHBOR'S REPORTING OF JANUARY THE FIRST OF 2021.
UH, SO OUR CURRENT U C R METHOD OF REPORTING IS THAT SUMMARY REPORTING SYSTEM THAT THE CHIEF MENTIONED, AND THOSE ARE THOSE EIGHT PART ONE CRIMES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE RIGHT THERE.
THEY'RE DIVIDED INTO THOSE TWO CATEGORIES OF VIOLENT CRIMES AND PROPERTY CRIMES.
WHEN WE TRANSITION OVER TO NEIGHBORS, UH, THEY WILL NO LONGER BE CALLED PART ONE CRIMES, BUT NOW PART A CRIMES, THERE'LL BE 23 CATEGORIES MADE UP OF 52 OFFENSES.
SO BEFORE WE HAVE EIGHT CRIMES, NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE 52 OFFENSES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE REPORTING.
UH, CURRENTLY, AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, UH, UNDER SUMMARY REPORTING THAT WE DO NOW, UH, IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE OFFENSES COMMITTED IN A SINGLE INCIDENT, WE ONLY REPORT THE HIGHEST OR THE MOST SERIOUS CRIME THAT OCCURRED WHEN WE TRANSITION TO NEIGHBORS.
IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE OFFENSES THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED WITHIN THAT SINGLE INCIDENT, WE WILL REPORT EACH OFFENSE THAT WAS COMMITTED UP TO 10 OFFENSES.
AND I KNOW THIS IS A BIT OF WHAT WE GOT IN THE LAST PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY CRITICAL TO, TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, CURRENTLY, UH, WE DON'T REPORT MUCH DETAIL ABOUT THE CRIME ITSELF, ABOUT THE VICTIM, ABOUT THE SUSPECT.
BUT WHEN WE MOVE TO NEIGHBORS, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE VERY DETAILED IN THE CRIME, THE DATE, THE TIME, THE LOCATION, PROPERTY DESCRIPTION OF WHERE THE CRIME OCCURRED, WE'RE GONNA REPORT ABOUT, UH, THE VICTIM, UM, VERY DETAILED, UM, DOWN TO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE VICTIM AND THE OFFENDER.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO REPORT SUSPECT INFORMATION WHERE WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT BEFORE, EVEN TO THE POINT OF WHETHER THE CRIME WAS ACTUALLY COMMITTED OR MERELY ATTEMPTED.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE VERY DETAILED NOW, AND OUR REPORTING, WHICH IS THE CHIEF SAYS, IS GONNA GIVE US A VERY CLEAR PICTURE, A BETTER PICTURE OF CRIME HAPPENING HERE, WHICH IS GONNA HELP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TREND, UH, TREMENDOUSLY.
AND PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO VICTIM OUTREACH, VICTIM SERVICES, WE'RE GONNA KNOW WHO OUR VICTIMS ARE, WE'RE GONNA KNOW WHERE THEY'RE BEING VICTIMIZED, WE'RE GONNA BE
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ABLE TO HELP 'EM MUCH BETTER THAN WE ARE DOING NOW.SO, UM, THAT'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN U C R AND BRS.
SO, MOVING ON, I DON'T KNOW WHY I GET TO WORK THIS THING BECAUSE I WORK TECHNOLOGY.
I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M, UM, SO HERE WE GO.
SO AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, UM, MOST AGENCIES NOW WHO HAVE TRANSITIONED ARE, UM, IT APPEARS THAT THEY'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN THE CRIME RATE, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST THE FACT THAT THEY'RE REPORTING SO MANY MORE CRIMES AND SO MUCH MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE CRIME.
SO, UM, CHIEF MENTIONED THAT EARLIER, AND SO I THINK MAYBE TOM MIGHT SPEAK TO THIS, UH, A BIT MORE.
BUT FOR THE FIRST YEAR AFTER WE MAKE THAT TRANSITION, UH, WE'RE GONNA REPORT BOTH BRS AND U C R JUST FOR CONSISTENCY AND AND COMPARISON PURPOSES.
TOM, YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING ON THAT? NO, MA'AM.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS NEW, UH, RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
AND I THINK THAT, I MENTIONED THIS WHEN WE WERE HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THAT THE NEW SYSTEM THAT WE, THE OLD SYSTEM THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON IS, UM, A BIT ARCHAIC, UH, TO SAY THE LEAST.
UM, IT, UM, DOESN'T INTERFACE WELL WITH MANY OF THE OTHER APPLICATIONS OR THE SYSTEMS THAT OUR OFFICERS USE ON A DAILY BASIS.
UM, IT DOES, IT'S NOT NIBRS COMPLIANT FOR SURE, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF BECOMING NIBRS COMPLIANT, WHICH IS WHY WE HAD TO GO OUT AND LOOK FOR A NEW NIBRS COMPLIANT SYSTEM.
SO OUR NEW SYSTEM THAT WE ARE, UM, ABOUT TO ACQUIRE IS A COMPLETELY INTEGRATED RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
UH, IT HAS A FIELD-BASED REPORTING SYSTEM, WHICH I MENTIONED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, IS WHERE THE OFFICERS, UM, ACTUALLY WRITE THEIR REPORTS.
IT HAS THE, THE RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM PORTION AND ALSO THE CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
THAT'S WHERE THE DETECTIVES MANAGE THEIR CASELOAD AND BUILD THEIR CASES.
AND THAT'S COMPLETELY INTEGRATED IN ONE SUITE, IS WHAT WE'RE THE NEW SYSTEM IS GOING TO, TO BE.
UH, IT'LL HAVE DIRECT INTERFACES WITH MANY OF OUR APPLICATIONS, MANY OF THE, UM, SYSTEMS THAT THE OFFICERS AND THE DETECTIVES USE ON A DAILY BASIS, UH, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THEY, UH, DON'T HAVE NOW.
UM, THEY'RE VERY FRUSTRATED AND A LOT OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO NOW, UH, DAY TO DAY.
AND, AND I'M GONNA KIND OF GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
IF, IF WE HAVE A SECOND, UM, I'M GONNA KINDA WALK YOU THROUGH AN INSTANCE WHERE THEY HAVE TO DO DOUBLE WORK NOW, BUT WHEN WE GO TO THE NEW SYSTEM, IT'S GONNA BE A, A MUCH BETTER EFFECTIVE WAY FOR THEM TO DO THEIR JOB.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT DIAGRAM, UM, AND YOU SEE THE BUBBLE IN THE MIDDLE WHERE IT SAYS INTEGRATED RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, JUST BELOW THAT, YOU'LL SEE A MODULE THAT READS FILE ON QUEUE.
DOES EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY SEE THAT? OKAY.
SO THAT'S OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
SO ANYTIME AN OFFICER COMES ACROSS, UH, EVIDENCE OR A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO OUR PROPERTY ROOM, UH, THEY HAVE TO LOG THAT PROPERTY IN HERE.
IT'S AN INVENTORY TRACKING SYSTEM.
SO, UM, LET, LEMME JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
SO LET'S SAY THE OFFICER CAME ACROSS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S IN POSSESSION OF STOLEN PROPERTY.
AND LET'S SAY THE INDIVIDUAL WAS INVOLVED IN A SHOPLIFTING RING.
SO THE, THE INDIVIDUAL SUSPECT HAS 20 FLAT SCREEN TVS, THAT'S KIND OF COMMON IN SAN ANTONIO FOR SHOPLIFTERS.
UH, SO THE OFFICER NOW HAS TO LOG INTO THAT SYSTEM, CURRENTLY LOG INTO THE FOLLOWING QUEUE.
AND THESE TVS ARE DIFFERENT MODELS, DIFFERENT SIZES.
SO THEY HAVE TO LOG IN EACH SEPARATE TELEVISION, 20 OF THEM.
SO, UH, ONE 50 INCH SAMSUNG FLAT SCREEN TV, THE NEXT 1, 180 INCH.
IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING, IT'S NOT.
UM, SO IT TAKES QUITE, QUITE SOME TIME.
SO, UH, AFTER THEY'RE DONE THERE, THE OFFICER WILL LOG OUTTA THAT SYSTEM AND NOW HE HAS TO WRITE HIS POLICE REPORT.
SO NOW HE HAS TO LOG IN TO HIS, UH, FIELD-BASED REPORTING SYSTEM, SEPARATE SYSTEM, AND WRITE HIS POLICE REPORT.
'CAUSE HE'S GOING BOOK HIS SUSPECT, WRITES HIS POLICE REPORT, AND GETS TO THE PROPERTY SECTION OF THAT REPORT AND HAS TO DO THE SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN.
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SAME THING THAT HE JUST TYPED IN THE FOLLOWING QUEUE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO INTERFACE BETWEEN THOSE TWO APPLICATIONS.SO NOW WITH OUR NEW INTEGRATED SYSTEM, THERE WILL BE, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT PICTURE, YOU SEE ARROWS GO IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
SO OUR NEW SYSTEM WILL HAVE A BI-DIRECTIONAL INTERFACE, WHICH REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE OFFICER TYPES THE INFORMATION TO FOLLOW A QUEUE OR HE TYPES IT INTO HIS, UM, F B R, HE CAN PUSH IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND ONLY TYPE IT ONE TIME.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE AN EFFICIENCY THAT WE GET FROM, FROM THE NEW SYSTEM.
NOT THAT YOU'RE GONNA SAY SOMETHING.
SORRY, I I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BUT, OKAY.
SO OUR NEW R M S WILL ENHANCE OUR OFFICER'S PRODUCTIVITY.
SO IT'S GONNA, THIS NEW SYSTEM IS GOING TO ENHANCE OUR PRODUCTIVITY AND ALLOW US TO INTERFACE WITH ALL THESE APPLICATIONS AND ALL THE SYSTEMS THAT OUR OFFICERS USE ON A, ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED LAST TIME, THIS NEW SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE WEB-BASED, UM, WHICH MEANS THAT, UM, UH, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE WILL BE NO DOWNTIME WHEN WE HAVE UPGRADES OR WE HAVE TO PUSH OUT UPDATES.
UH, WE'LL NEVER HAVE TO, TO BRING THE SYSTEM DOWN, UH, WHICH IS VERY POSITIVE.
WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT UPGRADE AND, UH, WE WERE DOWN FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
UM, ALSO THIS NEW SYSTEM WILL BE, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED LAST TIME, DEVICE AGNOSTIC.
WE CAN USE IT ON ANY PLATFORM THAT WE WANT, NOT JUST THE DESKTOP OR THE LAPTOP THAT WE DO.
NOW WE CAN USE IT ON A TABLET OR A MOBILE PHONE.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT, UM, THIS, THIS NEW SYSTEM THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO ACQUIRE.
SO, WELL, THIS SAYS A LITTLE BATTERY.
SO, UM, DURING THE MONTH OF AUGUST, WE CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS WITH THE VENDORS WHO, UM, UM, PUT IN FOR THE SOLICITATION FOR THE R F P.
UH, AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE, UH, HAD THE EACH VENDOR AT HEADQUARTERS FOR TWO DAYS.
EACH VENDOR GOT TWO DAYS, AND, UM, ONE DAY, UH, WAS HANDS-ON DEMONSTRATIONS.
WE BROUGHT IN OFFICERS, UH, FROM ACROSS THE CITY, UM, FROM EACH SHIFT AND THEY WERE ABLE TO, TO GET ONTO LAPTOPS AND, AND GET HANDS-ON WITH EACH, UM, PRODUCT.
AND THEY PROVIDE PROVIDED FEEDBACK FOR US, WHICH WAS VERY, VERY, UM, HELPFUL.
AND WE BROUGHT DETECTIVES IN FROM EVERY FOLLOW UP UNIT AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET ON AND, UH, GET INTO THE R M S SYSTEM, GET INTO THE CASE MANAGEMENT, AND THEY PROVIDED FEEDBACK, UM, ON EACH VENDOR, EACH PRODUCT, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL.
UM, IN THE SECOND DAY OF, OF THE VENDOR, UM, BEING AT HEADQUARTERS, UH, WAS FOR, UM, THE SCORING COMMITTEE AND THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE WHO WERE VOTING ON THE RFPS.
AND THAT SCORING COMMITTEE, OF COURSE, WAS MADE UP OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.
I T SS D, UH, SS A P D EXECUTIVES.
UH, WE HAD THREE MEMBERS FROM THE UNION ON THE SCORING COMMITTEE.
UH, SO, UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THIS AFTERNOON WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, MEETING FOR OUR FINAL SCORING MEETING AND WE'RE GONNA SELECT THE VENDOR TODAY AND THE NEW PRODUCT.
AND SO, UM, ONCE WE DO THAT, THE STEPS FORWARD WILL BE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE STATEMENT OF WORK, SS A P D IN COLLABORATION WITH I T S D.
WE'LL CREATE A STATEMENT OF WORK WITH THE VENDOR AND, UM, PROCUREMENT WILL SECURE A CONTRACT WITH THE VENDOR.
UM, ALL IN PREPARATION FOR, WE HAVE A AUDIT COMMITTEE DATE OF THE 15TH OF OCTOBER, FOLLOWED BY PRESENTATION TO THE FULL COUNSEL, I BELIEVE LATER IN OCTOBER OR MAYBE NOVEMBER.
SO I THINK WITH THAT, MS. DIED CHIEF, I THINK WITH THAT, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE PRESENTATION.
I'M ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, UH, NEW SYSTEM.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONNA HELP, UH, TREMENDOUSLY.
UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY? THANK YOU MA'AM.
UM, GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THOUGH ON SLIDE NUMBER, SLIDE NUMBER FIVE.
UM, IS, IS THIS A COMMERCIAL OFF THE SHELF SYSTEM? YES.
AND WEB-BASED, SO IT SHOULD BE EASIER TO MAINTAIN.
WHAT ABOUT WHEN WE ACTUALLY PURCHASE A SYSTEM? WILL I T S D BE GOING INTO THAT SYSTEM AND MAKING CHANGES TO IT AND UPGRADES AND, YOU KNOW, MESSING AROUND WITH THE PROGRAMS? WELL, I T S D WILL HAVE A HAND IN IT.
I CAN DEFER TO, UH, CRAIG HOPKINS, WHO'S HERE, CIO FOR, UM, I T S D.
AND I WILL JUST, UM, MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT IF I MAY.
UH, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, SO THE SYSTEM, SO WHAT WE CAN SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE WILL BE LIMITED, BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER WHAT WE CAN.
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KAREN MENTIONED, WE, WE ARE SELECTING THE VENDOR TODAY AND, UH, COMING TO AUDIT COMMITTEE ON OCTOBER 15.OUR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A FULL RECOMMENDATION EITHER OCTOBER 31ST OR THE FIRST WEEK IN NOVEMBER.
BUT WE'LL ANSWER YOUR, YOUR QUESTION.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT CAVEAT.
CRAIG, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, UNDER OUR OLD SYSTEMS, I T S D HAS GONE IN AND MADE CHANGES AND, UM, HAS CAUSED SOME ISSUES AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS WITH OUR OLD SYSTEM.
UM, IS, IS THAT GONNA CONTINUE TO HAPPEN UNDER THIS NEW SYSTEM? SO SIR, WITHOUT TALKING TO THE SPECIFICS, BECAUSE EACH VENDOR IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND WE HAVEN'T MADE THE SELECTION, THERE'S DIFFERENT ANSWERS DEPENDING ON DIFFERENT VENDORS, BUT, UM, TO YOUR POINT EXACTLY, UH, MANY OF OUR SYSTEMS IN THE CITY HAVE BEEN CUSTOMIZED BY BOTH THE USERS AND IT OVER THE YEARS, WHICH THEN MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO STAY ON AN UPGRADE PATH OR TAKE THE OUT OF THE BOX SOLUTION AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, THIS TEAM HAS AGREED, AND I COMPLETELY SUPPORT WITH.
WE ARE, WE ARE, UM, NOT, THAT IS NOT OUR PLAN FOR THIS SYSTEM GOING FORWARD.
THIS IS THEIR SYSTEM OF RECORD, UH, NO DIFFERENT THAN SS A P FOR OUR FINANCES AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO WE ARE TAKING THE APPROACH THAT WE, UH, CONFIGURE THE SYSTEM AS THE VENDOR HAS ALLOWED FOR US TO DO IT.
DEPENDING WHETHER THE SYSTEM IS IN THE CLOUD OR ON PREMISE, DIFFERENT S SCENARIOS DETERMINES HOW MUCH IT HAS TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
AND WE'LL KNOW THAT AFTER WE GO THROUGH OUR SELECTION PROCESS.
UH, ALONG WITH THAT, UM, UH, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BEING, UH, PUT IN THIS NEW SYSTEM ON MY RIDE ALONGS, IT'S VERY LABOR INTENSIVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF KEY PUNCHING AND THAT KIND OF THING, AND ACTUALLY GETTING ON, IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT, HAVING TO DRAW THE CAR, DRAW THE DIRECTIONS AND ALL THAT STUFF, IT TAKES AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO THAT.
ARE WE DOING UPGRADES TO THAT? LIKE USING PHOTOGRAPHS THAT CAN BE DOWNLOADED, THAT KIND OF THING INTO THE SYSTEM SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SO MUCH LIGHT OR EVEN VOICE RECOGNITION VERSUS TAPPING IN THE KEYS? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S A CRASH SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND, AND THAT'S A STATE SYSTEM WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ACCIDENT AND THAT WILL NOT BE PART OF THE SYSTEM NOW.
UM, BUT VOICE RECOGNITION IS SOMETHING ON THE HORIZON, UM, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN AS F AS FAST AS WE'D LIKE FOR IT TO, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING ON THE HORIZON.
UH, AND TO THE POINT ABOUT HAVING TO TYPE IN EVERYTHING ON THE KEYBOARDS, IS THAT BEING LOOKED AT? I THINK PD CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF FUNCTIONALITY BETTER IN FIELD-BASED REPORTING AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, BUT WE DO NEED TO REMEMBER THAT, UM, OFFICERS ARE USING MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS AT TIMES.
SO AS THE CAPTAIN ALLUDED TO, WE'RE GOING TO INTEGRATE MANY OF THOSE INTO THE SYSTEM.
WE DON'T, CAN'T CONTROL THE FUNCTIONALITY IN SEVERAL OF THOSE EXTERNAL SYSTEMS. WE CAN CONTROL THE INTEGRATION, BUT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN FIELD-BASED REPORTING ITSELF IS BUILT INTO THE PACKAGES WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THE MAN MANPOWER TO DO THAT, AND THEY'RE SITTING IDLE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD DOING ALL THIS STUFF TO GET IT INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND THE MORE WE CAN INCLUDE CURRENT DAY TECHNOLOGY IN THAT TO MAKE IT MORE EASILY LOADED, TO FREE THEM UP QUICKER, UM, I JUST HOPE THAT SOME OF THAT COMES INTO PLAY IN THIS SOLICITATION HERE.
AND ARE WE COMFORTABLE THAT WE'VE ALLOWED ENOUGH TIME FOR THEM TO, UM, YOU SAID THE VENDOR SELECTION IS HAPPENING TODAY, UM, AND THEN THE, THE STATEMENT OF WORK, UH, EXPLAIN THAT TO ME A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE'RE GONNA SELECT THE VENDOR AND THEN DEVELOP THE STATEMENT OF WORK ON WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING.
I, I USUALLY YOU DEVELOP THE STATEMENT OF WORK PRIOR TO SELECTING THE VENDORS.
UH, COUNCILMAN YOU ARE CORRECT.
AND THAT IS PART OF THE R F P PART OF THE PROPOSAL, WHAT THEY SUBMIT TO US.
THIS IS MORE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT A CONTRACT.
SO WHEN WE BRING THE, THE, UM, ITEM FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH IT.
SO WE HAVE TO DEVELOP THE STATEMENT, WE'LL WORK WITH THAT CONTRACT ONCE WE HAVE SELECTED A VENDOR.
BUT ALL THAT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME.
THIS IS JUST IS, IS COMING FROM THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, COMING FROM THE PROPOSAL SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.
BUT THIS FORMALIZES THAT OBLIGATION, IF YOU WILL.
UM, BUT WE FEEL SATISFIED THAT WE'VE
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GIVEN THEM ENOUGH TIME TO PUT A PREMIER PROPOSAL TOGETHER ON THIS.AND THEY'RE HAPPY ALSO THAT THEY WERE, UM, IN THEIR PROPOSALS IF THEY HAD ENOUGH TIME TO PUT THE DECENT PROPOSAL TOGETHER? WELL, AGAIN, WE, WE HAVEN'T MADE THE SELECTION.
IT'LL BE THIS AFTERNOON, BUT OKAY.
THE VENDORS WHO, UM, WHO RESPONDED TO THE SOLICITATION, THEY, THEY, THEY FELT VERY PREPARED.
WE'RE ALL DYING TO KNOW WHAT THE SYSTEM'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
JUST QUICK QUESTIONS, MARIA, I'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU.
UM, HOW, WHAT DID WE BUDGET FOR THIS R M S AGAIN? WHAT DID WE BUDGET FOR THIS? CRAIG, DO YOU KNOW? I HAVE THE NUMBER COUNCILWOMAN, I, UM, CAN YOU SAY IT OR NOT? WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING.
WELL, WHAT DID, DIDN'T WE BUDGET IT IN THE, IN THE BUDGET? YES.
IT'S PART OF THE, IT, WHAT I, THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS, UM, WE HAVE A, UH, IT BUDGET IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
SO EVERY YEAR WE HAVE ABOUT $5 MILLION.
THAT IS, UH, SET ASIDE FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE.
AND IT ALSO INCLUDES REPLACEMENT OF OUR SERVERS OR SOME OF THE MAIN INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE, OF THE CITY.
SO THAT IS EMBEDDED, THIS CONTRACT IS EMBEDDED INTO THAT.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION IN, IN IDEAL SITUATION, WHATEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHEN WOULD THIS GO LIVE? UH, WE ARE, UM, IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH ALL THE VENDORS, UH, NOVEMBER, 2020.
SO WE COULD START TESTING THE REPORTING.
AS YOU HEARD FROM THE TEAM, THE DEADLINE TO THE F B I IS, UH, JANUARY, 2021.
SO OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS, UH, READY TO GO NOVEMBER, 2020.
ARE WE GOING TO SEE THIS ONE AT, UM, A B SESSION OR WILL IT GO STRAIGHT FROM AUDIT TO, UH, COUNCIL ACTION? WE WERE, UH, PROPOSING TO GO AFTER AUDIT TO THE FULL COUNCIL AT AN A SESSION.
UNLESS THE COUNCIL, UH, WANTED TO SEE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION.
UM, THOSE WERE, THAT, THAT IS OUR, OUR PLAN RIGHT NOW.
I'LL BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HAS TO SAY, BUT THANK YOU.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MARIA.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, CAPTAIN AND FOR BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.
UM, MARIA, I WAS JUST LOOKING THROUGH, UH, THE MINUTES AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY VOTED ON THEM.
UM, AND THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUESTED LAST TIME.
HAVE THOSE BEEN PROVIDED YET? THEY WILL BE PROVIDED THIS MORNING.
I REVIEWED THEM LAST NIGHT WITH ROGER.
AND WE'RE GONNA SEND THOSE TO YOU RIGHT AFTER THIS MEETING? YES.