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GOOD MORNING.WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2019.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.
COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT.
WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL A SESSION AGENDA.
THE TIME IS 9:20 AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
FIRST WITH OUR INVOCATION AND A GUEST OF COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW, EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.
AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO START BY INTRODUCING FATHER RYAN CARSON ZAMORA, WHO SERVES AS A PASTOR OF DIVINE PROVIDENCE CATHOLIC CHURCH LOCATED IN DISTRICT FOUR.
HE'S ALSO THE DEAN OF THE SOUTHWEST URBAN DEANERY THROUGH THE ARCHDIOCESE OF SAN ANTONIO AND FORMS PART OF THE PERSONNEL BOARD COLLEGE OF CONSULTERS PRESBYTER COUNCIL CAPITAL CAMPAIGNED.
AND AS A FACULTY MEMBER OF PASTORAL EDUCATION, FATHER RYAN IS A C I C M MISSION NURSE MISSIONARY.
HE STUDIED PHILOSOPHY AT SAINT AL UNIVERSITY AND THEOLOGY IN MARY HILL SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY, WHERE HE EARNED A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PASTORAL MINISTRY.
AS PART OF HIS CULTURAL INTEGRATION TO THE UNITED STATES, HE STUDIED CLINICAL PASTORAL EDUCATION AT ALBUQUERQUE PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL.
HE WAS ORDAINED AS A PRIEST IN 2011 IN THE DIOCESE OF RALLY NORTH CAROLINA, WHERE HE SERVED FOR SIX YEARS IN TWO PARISHES.
ASIDE FROM THE PARISH MINISTRY, HE IS CURRENTLY A MEMBER OF THE SOUTHWEST INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT'S CLERGY GROUP, AND ALSO WORKS CLOSELY WITH OTHER CLERGY MEMBERS THROUGH COPS METRO.
HE HAS WORKED WITH MANY GROUPS SERVING VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING IMPOVERISHED, IMPOVERISHED CHILDREN, PRISONERS AND IMMIGRANTS.
THROUGH HIS SUPPORT, DISTRICT FOUR RESIDENTS HAVE BENEFITED FROM PARTNERSHIPS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS HOSTED AT DIVINE PROVIDENCE CATHOLIC CATHOLICS, UM, CHURCH, INCLUDING OUR ANNUAL BASSA BASH NEAR INDIAN CREEK.
FATHER RYAN ALSO CREATED THE ANNUAL RUN FOR HUMAN NEED TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THOSE IN NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
FATHER RYAN, I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW, IS ALSO ONE OF TWO MEN THAT I ALLOW TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO.
PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME FATHER RYAN.
LET US SUPPOSE FOR A MOMENT AS WE ALLOW OURSELVES TO ENTER INTO THE HIGHER PRESENCE, OUR DEAR LORD GOD, OUR DIVINE NAVIGATOR, OUR DIVINE ARCHITECT OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
WE CALL UPON YOU TO INTERCEDE FOR US AS WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE CHALLENGES OF LEADING YOUR PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW THAT IN OUR HEARTS, WE WISH THAT EVERYTHING WERE EASY AND HAS A SIMPLE SOLUTION.
HOWEVER, THE REALITY TELLS US THAT OUR EXPERIENCES ARE NOT ENOUGH TO GRASP THE WHOLE TRUTH.
SO, WITH HUMILITY, WE ASK THAT YOU AID US IN LETTING OURSELVES UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF OUR EVERY DECISION.
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WE KNOW THAT THOSE DECISIONS ARE NOT JUST WORDS, BUT AFFECT THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE WE SERVE.WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU AID US IN LETTING CONSTITUENTS UNDERSTAND THE WISDOM OF EVERY DECISION WE MAKE.
AS WE SET AN EXAMPLE OF GOING BEYOND OURSELVES OR OUR POLITICAL INTEREST.
AND LET OUR MORAL COMPASS ALWAYS BE OUR GUIDE.
MAY WE BE COMPASSIONATE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SUFFER AND DISADVANTAGE.
LASTLY, WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE MANY GOOD THINGS YOU HAVE DONE FOR OUR CITY.
MAY OUR HEARTS CONTINUE TO BE SINCERE, AND MAY WE CONTINUE TO LISTEN EVEN TO THOSE IDEAS THAT ARE NEW OR OPPOSED TO OURS.
THEY ARE SIGNS OF A HEALTHY LEADERSHIP, A HEALTHY DISCOURSE FOR THE GREATER GOOD.
LORD, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BE WITH US.
MAY WE CONTINUE TO TRUST YOUR DIVINE PROVIDENCE.
WE ASK THIS THROUGH OUR ETERNAL SAVIOR, OUR LORD.
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, FAMOUS ONE, NATIONS AND BUSINESS WORLD.
OKAY, OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS TODAY IS THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 13TH, 14TH, AND 15TH.
OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 13TH THROUGH 15TH.
ALL OF OUR ITEMS, UH, ON THE AGENDA TODAY ARE LISTED UNDER CONSENT.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS FROM WHICH THEY WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO HEAR INDIVIDUALLY.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM NUMBER 12.
I HAVE ITEMS 1425 AND 27 FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
ANY OTHERS? ALRIGHT, IF THERE ARE NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, WE DO HAVE CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UM, ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I'LL TAKE THEM NOW.
WELL, MAYOR NURNBERG, ANOTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
A FEW ITEMS WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
ITEM 21, DEALING WITH AUDITING HERE IN THIS CITY IN OUR, IN OUR FAIR CITY HERE.
APPROVING THE AUDITOR'S FISCAL YEAR 2020 ANNUAL AUDIT PLAN.
WELL, I LOOKED AT THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS ON THAT, BACKUP DOCUMENTS FOR THE AUDIT PLAN AND, UH, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THERE THAT DO NEED AUDITING.
BUT ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS GLARINGLY OMITTED WAS WHY ISN'T OUR WATER UTILITY SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM BEING AUDITED? YES, WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS PROBLEMS WITH OUR WATER UTILITY.
THE, THE, THE O THE, UH, THE, UH, RATE INCREASES, THE, UH, THE EXECUTIVES BLOATED TO SALARY, UH, UH, AND JUST, JUST OVERALL PERFORMANCE OF THE DEBT UTILITY.
WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS PROBLEMS WITH IT TO, OH, NOT TO MENTION THE VISTA RIDGE PROBLEM THERE.
BUT, UH, THAT, AND, UH, WE, I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD ADD THAT TO THE PLAN IF NOTHING ELSE ELSEWHERE ON THE AGENDA.
A FEW ITEMS WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION HERE.
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PULLED THIS.IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S A, A, UH, A CONTRACT WITH A, A CHEMICAL COMPANY TO WHEREBY WE ARE GONNA GIVE THEM YES.
GIVE THEM ALL KINDS OF GIVEAWAYS REGARDING, YES.
THERE UTILITY RATES, THERE, UTILITY RATES.
IT'S ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S IT CALLED? CARBON, UH, YEAH.
UH, CARBON FREE O CARBON FREE OPERATIONS.
SOMETHING I NOTICED IN THE BACK OF DOCUMENTS YOU MAY WANNA CONSIDER BEFORE YOU SAY YES TO THIS THING.
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET ANYTHING ON THERE.
SEE, WITHOUT BLEACHING IT OUT, MR.
WELL, YEAH, I'LL TRY THAT THERE.
WHAT DOES IT SAY? UM,
REALLY HAVING, HAVING PROBLEM, I'VE HANDED IT BACK TO ME, MR. AUDIOVISUAL MAN, IF YOU WOULD.
BASICALLY I'LL READ TO YOU WHAT IT SAYS HERE.
THE, UH, THE PLACE WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
CAPITAL AGGREGATES SEIZED OPERATIONS DUE TO AN EXPLOSION AT THE FACILITY.
AT EXPLOSION AT THE FACILITY UNRELATED TO CARBON FREE OPERATIONS.
IN, IN OCTOBER, 2016, THE CITY TERMINATED THE 2014 E 16 RIDER AGREEMENT DUE TO CAPITAL AGGREGATES CESSATION OF OPERATIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. FINGER, MAYBE YOU'D WANNA SAY NO TO THIS ONE.
I FAILED TO RECOGNIZE, UH, SOME VERY IMPORTANT GUESTS IN OUR AUDIENCE.
SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TO DO SO RIGHT NOW AND, AND, AND ASK TO PLEASE STAND, UH, SOME GUESTS FROM JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI WHO ARE HERE TODAY.
COUNCILMAN DEKE OR STAMPS IS HERE, ALONG WITH THIS TEAM, THE CITY CLERK, CHRISTIE MOORE, SHANEIKA MOSLEY FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS PAMELA PALMER FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US TODAY.
UH, COUNCILMAN STAMPS AND I MET, UH, AT THE EMBASSY IN CHINA, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IN DC UH, THE CHINESE EMBASSY IN DC SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
THEY'RE HERE TODAY TO STUDY THE WORLD'S BEST CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, UH, AND HOW WE DO OUR PASSPORT OPERATIONS AND HELP LEARN.
UM, SO THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH AND, UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ACTION HERE TODAY, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE RIGHT ALONG, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE.
UM, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO, UH, COUNCIL COMMENT ON ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT.
I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF MY OWN THOUGH, UH, OR, OR ONE MYSELF.
WE'RE APPROVING TODAY A INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE ALAMO COLLEGES, AND WE HAVE, UH, DR.
BOB MCKINLEY, AS WELL AS, UH, DR.
MIKE FLORES, CHANCELLOR OF THE ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGES DISTRICT WITH US TODAY.
JUST FOR FOLKS WHO ARE LISTENING AND WHO ARE HERE WITH US, UH, THIS IS A LONGSTANDING AGREEMENT WITH THE ALAMO COLLEGES TO PROVIDE SOME MUCH NEEDED WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR CITY.
AND JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS HERE, $70,000 BEING APPROVED THROUGH THE COSA DEVELOP DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES TRAINING FOR THE JOB SUCCESS EMPLOYMENT SKILLS PROGRAM, 94,000 FOR THE COSA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT MENTOR PROTEGE PROGRAM, 438,000 IN CHANGE FOR THE COSA CITY EMPLOYMENT TRAINING.
AND VERY IMPORTANTLY, A, A PROGRAM THAT IS A, A GOLD STANDARD NATIONWIDE THAT NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DUPLICATE YET.
AND THAT IS THE ALAMO COLLEGE'S ALAMO ACADEMIES PROGRAM.
ALL VERY VITAL WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES FOR OUR CITY OF SAN ANTONIO THAT WE CONTINUE TO BEAR FRUIT FROM.
UH, I'M ALSO PLEASED, UH, THAT THIS CITY BUDGET AND THIS I L A MAKES REAL OUR FIRST YEAR, UH, PHASE ONE INVESTMENT IN THE ALAMO PROMISE, UH, WORTH THE, UH, ADDITION OF THE $154,000 FOR, UH, THIS I L A TO BEGIN THE ALAMO PROMISE PROGRAM IN CONCERT WITH BEXAR COUNTY AND THE ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGES DISTRICT.
SO, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES, UH, THANK YOU CHANCELLOR FLORES, UH, DR.
MCKINLEY FOR BEING HERE AS WELL.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT AND LOOK FORWARD TO WONDERFUL THINGS AHEAD FOR OUR COMMITTEE WITH THIS INVESTMENT.
AND I'LL START OFF WITH A, UH, A RECOGNITION, UH, THIS MORNING.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, RECOGNIZE PROFESSOR WANDA LEE SMITH AND HER TEXAS GOVERNMENT STUDENTS WHO ARE WITH US TODAY FROM SAN ANTONIO COLLEGE.
EVERY STUDENT MUST TAKE TEXAS GOVERNMENT SIX TIMES BEFORE THE AGE OF 21, WHICH TO MANY SOUNDS LIKE CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT.
BUT TO THOSE OF US WHO ARE PART OF GOVERNMENT, SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PRIMER TO THE WORK WE DO EVERY DAY.
SERIOUSLY, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LEARN HOW YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS.
LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS THE PUREST LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT TO ME, BECAUSE IT IS CLOSER TO THE PEOPLE AND THUS QUICKER TO RESPOND FROM FILLING POTHOLES TO RESPONDING TO THE
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REQUEST FOR PAID SICK LEAVE.WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER SAN ANTONIO COLLEGE PROFESSOR WITH US TODAY.
DISTRICT SIX IS OWN CHARLIE MAZUA, A 27 YEAR VETERAN OF CITY COUNCIL'S STAFF SERVICE, WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO TEACH GOVERNMENT.
THANK YOU TO OUR DEDICATED PROFESSORS LIKE COUNCILMAN ROJA GARCIA, AND TEACHERS AT ALL LEVELS WHO POUR THEIR HEART INTO PREPARING OUR STUDENTS FOR SUCCESS.
WE APPRECIATE PROFESSOR LEE SMITH AND HER CLASS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM NUMBER 24.
IT'S THE LAVACCA RESIDENTIAL PARKING PROGRAM.
I WANT TO THANK, UH, THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALL THEIR EFFORTS, UH, LEADING UP TO THE ADOPTION, UH, LAST YEAR.
AND IF WE'RE GOING INTO THE SECOND YEAR, THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM.
UH, IT'S, IT'S PROVEN TO, TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL AND NOW, UH, SHOWING TO BE AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UH, SO I WANT TO THANK THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR, FOR ALL THEIR EFFORTS AND OF COURSE, MY CHIEF OF STAFF FOR HELPING WITH THAT PROGRAM.
I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM NUMBER 12 AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE RAINBOW HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY HERE FROM THE ASSOCIATION THIS MORNING, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, PARTICIPATED AND GOT WHAT THEY WANT AND THEY FINALLY GOT A MUCH NEEDED SOCCER FIELD AND LIGHTING AND, UM, THERE'S ALWAYS A WAITING LINE AT THIS, UH, COM IN THIS COMMUNITY AREA FOR EVERYTHING KID RELATED, SO MANY ACTIVITIES.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT THEY PARTICIPATED IN THE PROCESS AND THAT THEY WILL FINALLY SEE THEIR HARD WORK COME TO FRUITION.
SO THANK YOU ALSO TO ROD AND RAZZI AND THE TEAM FOR GETTING STARTED ON THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER GRO.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM 13.
IT'S JUST THE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT ON STINSON AIRPORT.
AND AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD UP THAT OVER A HUNDRED YEAR AIRPORT AND OPEN IT UP TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MORE ENGAGEMENT AND MORE WORK THERE.
I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE MY WELCOME TO COUNCIL MEMBER FROM UH, MISSISSIPPI.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, AND WE HOPE YOU ALL RETURN TO SAN ANTONIO IN NOVEMBER FOR THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITY CITY SUMMIT AS WELL.
I'D JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, UNDER ITEM NUMBER 16, THE, UH, VETERANS FIVE K WALK, THAT COUNCILMAN PERRY'S OFFICE IN MY OFFICE, UH, SPONSORED EARLIER.
WE WERE SO HAPPY TO SEE SO MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FROM THE VA VETERANS COMMUNITY, VETERANS FROM BOTH OUR DISTRICTS AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND, UM, I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK FORWARD TO TRYING TO CONTINUE AND SEE GROW IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT WAS A, JUST A GREAT EFFORT AND, UH, WE JUST WANTED TO, UH, THANK OUR VETERAN COMMUNITY FOR BEING SO SUPPORTIVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN.
SO I AM EXCITED TO HAVE THE COUNCILMAN FROM JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI HERE AND THE REST OF HIS COLLEAGUES AND STAFF.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNOW THAT HE IS THE PRESIDENT FOR THE NATIONAL BLACK CAUCUS OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU HERE, UM, WHEN THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE ACTUALLY COMES TO SAN ANTONIO AND LOOK FORWARD TO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO COLLABORATIVELY WITH MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT, THAT CITY TO CITY CONNECTION.
AND SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO TRULY SEEING WHAT WE CAN BUILD TOGETHER.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.
OKAY, UH, WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAY FOR 1425 AND 27.
UH, BEFORE WE GET TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, I DID WANT TO JUST MAKE NOTE FOR THE AUDIENCE, UH, WHO'S WATCHING HERE AND ELSEWHERE, UH, THAT THE COUNCIL WILL RECESS ABRUPTLY AT 10 30, UH, FOR A VERY EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH ITEM 14.
ITEM 14 IS TWO ORDINANCES ASSOCIATED WITH CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.
AND I'LL READ ITEM 14 A AT THIS TIME, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE ACQUISITION OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER CONTRIBUTE CONTRIBUTING ZONE ON A 1544.4 ACRE TRACK OF LAND, KNOWN AS THE PROVIDENCE SPRINGS RANCH LOCATED IN MEDINA COUNTY, TEXAS, FROM PATTERSON ENERGY OF TEXAS L L C AT A COST OF $3,228,484 AND 10 CENTS FROM PROPOSITION ONE OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER PROTECTION SALES TAX FUND INCLUDED
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IN FISCAL YEAR 2020 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2025, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.ITEM 14 B IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE ACQUISITION OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER CONTRIBUTING ZONE ON A 817.61 ACRE TRACK OF LAND, KNOWN AS THE LAZY KAY RANCH LOCATED IN MEDINA COUNTY, TEXAS FROM TERRON PARTNERSHIP L T D, AND THE LOWEST C JOHNSON FAMILY, G S T EXEMPTION TRUST RANDALL THOMAS JOHNSON AS TRUSTEE AS AT ACOSTA $3,528,804 FROM PROPOSITION ONE OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER PROTECTION SALES TAX FUND, INCLUDED IN FISCAL YEAR 2020 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2025.
I WANTED TO, UH, PULL THIS ITEM JUST TO HIGHLIGHT IT AS, AS WHAT WAS STATED, THIS WAS PASSED AND APPROVE BY THE VOTERS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO TO, UH, UM, TAKE A PORTION OF SALES TAX TO START PURCHASING EASEMENTS OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER.
AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZE WHERE WE'RE AT, WHERE WE'RE GOING, HOW MUCH IS LEFT, AND, UM, PUT IT OUT THERE FOR THE CITIZENS TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THEIR SALES TAX DOLLARS.
SO, UH, WITH THIS, UH, ITEM TODAY, WE'RE PROPOSING ACQUISITION OF TWO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, BOTH IN MEDINA COUNTY.
THIS WOULD INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PROTECTED LANDS OR ADD TO THAT COUNT, UH, BY 2300 ACRES AND BRING US TO JUST UNDER 160,000 ACRES, UH, OF PROTECTED LAND OVER THE AQUIFER.
SO TO DATE, UM, THE, UNDER THE CURRENT SALES TAX, WE HAVE COLLECTED $70 MILLION.
AND WITH TODAY'S ACTION, UH, WE WOULD HAVE 59 MILLION COMMITTED.
AND HOW MUCH MORE ARE WE GONNA BE, UH, COLLECTING AND TRYING TO, UM, PURCHASE EASEMENTS? SO THE, UM, THIS SALES TAX FOR THE EDWARDS AQUIFER INCLUDED IS FOR, IS $100 MILLION, 90 MILLION FOR CON OR PROPERTY RIGHTS PROTECTING AQUIFER, $10 MILLION.
WERE DESIGNATED FOR DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS.
THOSE ARE RESTRICTED TO BEAR COUNTY.
UM, AND TO DATE, WE HAVE ACTUALLY, UH, BROUGHT TO COUNCIL AND APPROVED 10 PROJECTS.
FOR THAT $10 MILLION THAT ARE EARMARKED.
OF THE 10 MILLION, THERE'S A BALANCE OF $665,000 REMAINING.
SO THE LION'S SHARE OF THAT PROGRAM IS, UH, LOOKING AT PROTECTING, UH, LAND OVER THE AQUIFER.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE SALES TAX WILL BE COLLECTED, UM, AND REACH THE CAP IN EARLY FEBRUARY, OR EXCUSE ME, FEBRUARY, 2021.
AND SO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR LAND ACQUISITION TEAM LOOKING AT INTERESTED LANDOWNERS.
SO THE RATE AT WHICH WE WOULD CONTINUE TO BRING ITEMS TO COUNCIL IS REALLY GONNA BE DETERMINED BY INTEREST FROM THOSE LANDOWNERS.
UH, WE HAVE DONE SOME THINGS VERY SPECIFICALLY HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY TO MAKE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE AWARE OF THIS.
AND SO, UH, WE HAVE SEEN SUCCESS IN THAT AS WELL.
UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO BRING AND SPEND DOWN THE DOLLARS, UM, BEYOND AND ANTICIPATED WHEN THE TAXES REACHED IN FEBRUARY, 2021.
SO YOU WOULD SEE THOSE DOLLARS CONTINUE TO BE COMMITTED BEYOND THAT POINT INTO THE LATER IN THE CALENDAR YEAR.
DO YOU EXPECT TO OBLIGATE ALL OF THAT REMAINING $90 MILLION THAT WE'RE WELL, THE FULL PROGRAM, YES.
WE HAVE A BOND WITH THE VOTERS, AND IT IS SPECIFICALLY THAT SALES TAX COLLECTION IS DEDICATED TO THAT, THAT, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO, UH, BRING ITEMS FORWARD TO PROTECT LANDS OVER THE AQUIFER UNTIL THAT IS REACHED.
BUT YES, THE ANSWER IS YES, WE, OKAY, WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT.
AND, AND, AND EXPLAIN TO ME, WHAT, WHAT DO WE REALLY GET FOR THIS, THIS EASEMENT? CAN WE GO IN AND DO SOMETHING WITH THAT PROPERTY? OR IS IT OURS OR WHAT, WHAT, HOW DID, WHAT'S THE MECHANISM AND WHAT, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION WHEN WE SIGN THESE LEASES? SO THE EASEMENT, UH, WE'RE BASICALLY SECURING PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR THESE 160,000 ACRES NEARLY.
AND THAT PREVENTS FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OVER SENSITIVE AREAS, UM, OF THE RECHARGE ZONE.
SO WHAT WE'RE BUYING BASICALLY IS ENSURING THAT WE'RE MAXIMIZING THE WATER QUANTITY AND QUALITY THAT GOES INTO THE AQUIFER.
WHEN YOU SAY PROTECTS, DEVELOP, PROTECTS FROM DEVELOPMENT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE PROPERTY? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO EACH CONSERVATION EASEMENT, UM, IS LARGELY THE SAME.
BUT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT A PROPERTY, WE DO WORK WITH THE LANDOWNERS TO DETERMINE WHAT ARE THE EXISTING NUMBER OF BUILDING, UH, BUILDING ENVELOPES OR WE CALL THEM IF THEY HAVE PLANS TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MOVE A FAMILY MEMBER ONTO THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE GONNA BUILD ANOTHER HOME.
WE TAKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO ACCOUNT AND THEN THOSE ARE
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CAPTURED IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.AND THEN BASICALLY ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY IS GONNA BE AD ADHERED TO, TO JUST THAT.
SO BEYOND THAT, UH, WE DO HAVE AN ANNUAL MONITORING REQUIREMENT SO THAT IF A LANDOWNER, UM, SAYS I'M ONLY GONNA HAVE, SAY, FIVE BUILDING ENVELOPES ON MY 2000 ACRE RANCH IN NEW VALLEY COUNTY, WE GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMMITTING AND UPHOLDING THAT END OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
UM, MAKING SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY MATERIALS ON SITE THAT THEY'RE PROPERLY STORED AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO IT REALLY DOES, UM, LIMIT TO AN EXTENT THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT OVER THE AQUIFER.
BUT EACH CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS BASED ON TERMS AGREED TO BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO IT'S NOT SAYING THEY CAN'T DEVELOP ON THAT, THAT PROPERTY.
IT'S JUST LIMITED DEVELOPMENT.
AND YOU SAID INDIVIDUALLY NEGOTIATED ON WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DEVELOP? RIGHT.
WE LOOK AT EACH CONSERVATION EASEMENT, AND A LOT OF THESE ARE, UH, HERITAGE RANCHES AND FAMILY HOMESTEADS.
AND SO, UM, THE LINE OF THAT PROPERTY CONTINUING TO STAY WITHIN THE FAMILY, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW THEY INTEND TO KEEP THAT IN THE FAMILY.
AND MY EXAMPLE, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE MOVING A RELATIVE ONTO THE PROPERTY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL CAPTURE.
BUT, UH, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO, YOU KNOW, SUBLEASE A LARGE PART OF THEIR LAND FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF IMPROPER USE, UH, AGRICULTURE USES IS ONE THAT IS PERMITTED.
BUT IF SOMEBODY HAD PLANS OF, YOU KNOW, BUILDING A, A DANCE HALL AND HOSTING WEDDINGS THERE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE KNOW UPFRONT AND THAT WE'RE TAKING THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND WHAT IF THEY SELL IT, SELL THEIR PROPERTY, UH, DO THOSE RESTRICTIONS GO ALONG WITH THAT? THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ARE IN PERPETUITY.
SO THESE 106, WELL, WITH TODAY'S ACTION IF APPROVED, UM, THESE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ARE IN PERPETUITY.
AND SO OUR COMMITMENT, OUR MONITORING REQUIREMENT IS THE SAME.
WELL, I, I WANTED TO PULL THIS AGAIN TO, UH, KIND OF GET THAT INFORMATION OUT IN THE OPEN.
AND THEN, UM, ERIC, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE, WE ACTUALLY PUT THIS ON OUR B SCHEDULE, B SESSION SCHEDULE TO GET A FULL BRIEFING SHOWING MAPS, WHAT WE'VE ACQUIRED, UM, WHAT'S LEFT OUT THERE, WHAT THE TARGET IS, AND, AND SHOWING THIS AND GETTING THIS OUT.
I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE THAT NOT, I WOULD SAY PARTICULARLY UP ON, 'CAUSE MOST OF THIS IS ON THE NORTHWEST NORTH AND A LITTLE BIT ON THE NORTHEAST.
UH, GET OUT TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS ALSO AND SHOW 'EM WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THEIR SALES TAX DOLLARS.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT OTHERWISE I'D FULLY SUPPORT THIS AND, UH, LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PROGRAM AND, AND, UH, WE'RE GETTING A GOOD RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT.
I'M, I MOVED TO, UH, APPROVE THIS ITEM.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM, UH, 20, OH, EXCUSE ME, ITEM 14.
UH, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN PERRY FOR, FOR, UH, BRINGING THIS UP.
AND, UH, I, I FEEL A LITTLE BIT REMISS IN NOT HAVING HAD A REPORT ON THIS TO, TO COMMITTEE, UM, BUT IF YOU PREFER TAKING IT TO BE SESSION, THAT'S FINE.
UM, UP UNTIL NOW, HAVE WE HAD, UH, SOME SORT OF PUBLISHED REPORT THAT WE PUT OUT REGULARLY ON THE PROGRESS? YES.
SO OF THE PROGRAM, UM, NOT, NOT RECENTLY.
UM, THE STUDIES AND REPORTS THAT WE HAVE HAVE BEEN REALLY LOOKING AT ANALYZING THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE PROGRAM, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN BRING THIS ITEM FORWARD TO SUBCOMMITTEE, LOOK FORWARD TO THE B SESSION, AND CONTINUING THAT, THAT DIALOGUE WITH COUNCIL.
AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ONE THING, AND I, I THINK THIS IS WHAT COUNCILMAN PERRY WAS GETTING AT, BUT, UM, IF, IF WE HADN'T PURCHASED THESE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, UM, WHAT TYPE OF THINGS MIGHT WE SEE ON THERE? YOU MENTIONED A DANCES HALL OR, UM, BUT I THINK THERE COULD BE MORE INTENSIVE USES, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, SOME VERY, UM, ENTICING PROPERTY FOR OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS LIKE RESORTS, WHICH COULD BE, UH, FERTILIZING INTENSIVE, THERE COULD BE PESTICIDE USE AND OTHER THINGS THAT COULD END UP IN OUR WATER SUPPLY, RIGHT? IS IS THAT THE CONCERN? THAT'S CORRECT.
BASICALLY, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT TODAY'S, UH, ITEM, THIS, THESE PROPERTIES ARE IN THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE WATERSHED AND WATER RUNOFF COMING DOWNHILL INTO THE ACTUAL RECHARGE ZONE, THIS IS, UM, HELPING PROTECT THE WATER QUALITY COMING INTO THE AQUIFER, RIGHT? WHICH IS WHAT WE, THE MAJORITY OF OUR WATER SUPPLY LOCALLY COMES FROM THE, THE AQUIFER, RIGHT? YES, I THINK SO.
SO, UM, OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
AND IN TERMS OF AGRICULTURE BEING ALLOWED, ARE THERE SPECIFIC, UH, GUIDELINES AROUND HOW THE
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AGRICULTURE'S CARRIED OUT AND WHAT'S USED? UM, GENERALLY YES.I DON'T HAVE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT, UM, WE'RE, CAN TAKE, MAKE THIS INFORMATION, INCLUDE THAT TYPE OF DETAIL IN ANY FUTURE DISCUSSION, WHETHER IT'S THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE OF FUTURE B SESSION, WE WILL HAVE THAT DETAILED INFORMATION.
BUT IT, IT STILL PROTECTS THE WATER QUALITY I IMAGINE, TOO.
AND THAT HAPPENS OFTEN, SO, UM, AND NOT BECAUSE THIS'S SOMETHING YOU SAID OR DIDN'T SAY, IT JUST, I, I NEED TO BE WALKED THROUGH THIS.
WHAT IS OUR R O I, I JUST HEARD COUNCILMAN PERRY SAY THAT OUR R O I LOOKS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, PRODUCING SOMETHING.
CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT? SURE.
SO, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISH THAT SPECIFIC, UH, PRICE POINT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEED TO DO RESEARCH AND BRING BACK TO A FU TO FUTURE PRESENTATION, BUT SPECIFICALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM LOOKS AT PROTECTING THE WATER QUANTITY AND QUALITY FOR THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, WHICH IS OUR GREATEST SUPPLY OF WATER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
SO THIS PROGRAM ENSURES THAT TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, THAT WILL WATER DEMAND, WE WILL MEET THE WATER DEMAND, AND THAT THE QUALITY OF WATER, UH, CITIZENS UTILIZE IS, UH, AT THE NECESSARY LEVEL.
WE'RE BUYING WATER RIGHTS OUT AT, OR, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OUT AT PROVIDENCE SPRINGS RANCH IN MEDINA COUNTY, AND THEN WE'RE BUYING RIGHTS AT SOMEPLACE CALLED LAZY KAY RANCH, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, THESE PROPERTIES ARE BOTH IN MEDINA COUNTY, AND I'M LOOKING AT IT, THESE ARE FAR AWAY MEDINA COUNTY.
UH, THIS ISN'T, I MEAN, ONE OF THEM IS RIGHT NEXT TO HE LOTUS, NORTHWEST OF HE LOTUS, BUT THE OTHER ONE IS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF, OF MEDINA COUNTY.
UM, AND SO I I'VE, I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AGAIN, THEY CAN DO DANCE HALLS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? IS THAT NO, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WHEN WE ENTER A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CORRECT.
ALRIGHT? AND WE WANT THEM TO CONTINUE FARMING THOUGH.
THE, WHEN WE ENTER INTO CONSERVATION EASEMENT, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE TARGETED ALREADY TAKEN TO EXISTING USE, TYPICALLY IT IS AG LAND, UM, AND JUST HOMESTEADS.
SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM, WE GO THROUGH A GEOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT.
WE TEAM UP WITH EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH THE QUANTITY OF WATER COMING INTO THE AQUIFER BASED ON THAT PARTICULAR ACQUISITION, AS WELL AS THE WATER QUANTITY IN THIS CASE, UH, THE WATER QUALITY IS HIGH TO VERY HIGH AND FOR BOTH PROPERTIES.
AND THEN THE, UH, QUANTITY, QUANTITY IS, UH, MODERATE TO HIGH, RIGHT? SO LET'S, LET'S SAY THIS FELLOW'S GROWING COTTON OR ALFALFA OR WHATEVER THE HECK PEOPLE GROW THESE DAYS, RIGHT? UM, IF THEY'RE USING ROUNDUP RIGHT, OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WEEDED KILLER, AND THEY'RE SPRAYING THAT, IS THAT THE KIND OF PROPERTY WE'RE INVESTING IN? WE TARGET PROPERTIES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE PROGRAM FOR PARTICULAR PESTICIDES THAT ARE BEING USED.
THAT IS, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND BRING AND INCLUDE IN A FUTURE BRIEFING TO THE FULL COUNCIL SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW, AND WE ARE PROTECTING THE WATER QUALITY.
A LOT OF THIS LOOKS AT SENSITIVE RECHARGE FEATURES ON SPECIFIC PROPERTIES.
SO THOSE CHARACTERISTICS ARE GONNA VARY FROM EACH ONE.
IT'S JUST NOT THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.
THE, THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU IS, ARE WE INVESTING IN PROPERTIES WHERE THEY'RE SPRAYING ROUNDUP AND OTHER CHEMICALS? I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, AND YOU'RE ASKING ME FOR MY VOTE TODAY.
UM, AND I MEAN, THAT, THAT ONE SEEMS IMPORTANT TO ME, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF I'M GONNA SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S GO SPEND THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW TO CONTINUE TO SPRAY ROUNDUP ON, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE GRANDFATHERED IN AND THEY'RE GONNA BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO DO THEIR USE.
THAT TO ME SEEMS LIKE A TREMENDOUSLY FOOLISH INVESTMENT OF MONEY FOR US TO BASICALLY GIVE A RANCHER $3 MILLION OR ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, LET'S SAY, AND SAY, HEY, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT.
KEEP, KEEP SPRAYING ROUNDUP INTO OUR AQUIFER.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I, YES, I'VE FOLLOWED THE LOGIC.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IN THIS CASE THAT THEY ARE USING ROUNDUP.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION AND THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO HAVE AT A FUTURE BRIEFING.
YOU GOT A, YOU GOT A FELLOW WHO WANTS TO PROMISE NOT TO SPRAY MORE AROUND.
GRANT, GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THE QUESTION.
UH, GRANT ELLIS IS OUR NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGER, AND WHAT HE WAS SHARING WITH ME IS WE DO HAVE A LIST OF APPROVED, UM, PESTICIDES THAT PROPERTY OWNERS CAN USE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION
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AND TO YOUR OFFICE, AND AGAIN, SHARE THAT WITH THE FULL COUNSEL.SO, SO ROUNDUP TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IS NOT ON THE LIST OF AUTHORIZED, UH, UH, PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES, BUT WE'D HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
BUT IF THEY'RE, BUT IF THEY'RE CURRENTLY, THE LIST IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING, BUT IF THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING IT, I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO USE IT, RIGHT? YES, BUT ONLY WITHIN THE, THE, THE AUTHORIZED AMOUNTS AND QUANTITIES THAT IS APPROVED BY, BY, BY FEDERAL APPLICATION STANDARDS.
AND RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THE FEDERAL APPLICATION, STANDUP STANDARDS FOR THESE CHEMICALS TO BE SPRAYED ON, YOU KNOW, UH, CROPS IS GETTING TO BE MORE AND MORE LIBERAL RIGHT.
IN FAVOR OF MONSANTO AND BAYER AND ALL THAT WHO PRODUCED THIS STUFF.
LET, LET ME ALSO QUALIFY SOME OF THIS BY SAYING THAT THE, UM, VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH WHILE HOMER WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, HE, HE MENTIONED THAT AGRICULTURAL USE IS, IS PERMITTED.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY THE CASE, BUT THESE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE HILL COUNTRY.
THESE ARE NOT MOSTLY FARMLANDS.
AND SO THE, THE, THE APPLICATION OF PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES MAY BE USED ON A LIMITED BASIS, BUT MOST OF THESE FOLKS ARE, ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY BE GRAZING SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, GOATS OR, OR LIVESTOCK.
BUT THIS IS NOT INDUSTRIAL AGRICULTURAL LAND THAT WE'RE PROTECTING, AND THAT'S FAIR.
SO DO YOU KNOW IF LAZY KAY RANCH OR PROVIDENCE RANCH HAVE ANY INDUSTRIAL FARMING, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, ARE SPRAYING ANY OF THESE THINGS ON CROPS TO, TO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I WOULD WANT TO KNOW BEFORE I VOTE.
AND, YOU KNOW, $3 MILLION OF MY CONSTITUENTS MONEY AWAY TO SOME GUY WHO DOESN'T EVEN LIVE IN BEXAR COUNTY.
UH, AND GUYS, THIS IS, AND, AND I'M, I MEAN, I'M, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
UM, AND LEMME TELL YOU WHY I'M GONNA VOTE NO ON THIS.
UM, I'VE GOT, UH, THOUSANDS OF HOMELESS PEOPLE.
I'VE GOT 22 VETERANS THAT DIE EVERY SINGLE DAY FROM SUICIDES.
I'VE GOT AN OPIOID ADDICTION PROBLEM, I'VE GOT POTHOLES, I'VE GOT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOUSING PROBLEM HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.
I'VE GOT A $2.9 BILLION BUDGET THAT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
UH, WE'VE GOT TELECOMS WHO NO LONGER WANNA PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, USING MY CONSTITUENTS, SIDEWALKS, AND ROADS, AND I JUST CAN'T BRING MYSELF TO PAY SOME RANCHER IN MEDINA, THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO SPRAY CHEMICALS INTO THE AQUIFER, EVEN IF THEY, EVEN IF THE AQUIFER, YOU KNOW, IS 70% OF OUR DRINK, YOU KNOW, OF OUR DRINKING WATER.
UM, I I, I I'M GONNA NEED MORE INFO TO, TO VOTE YES ON THIS.
AND IN FACT, I'M, I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH OF THIS MONEY OVER THE YEARS WE'VE ACTUALLY FLOOD FLITTED AWAY AND SQUANDERED ON A PROGRAM WHERE IT JUST MIGHT BE ALLOWING MORE TONS OF THIS KIND OF CHEMICAL INCIDENT.
WELL, I DON'T THINK WE'VE PONDERED ANYTHING, COUNCILMAN.
I MEAN, WE, WE MONITOR THESE PROPERTIES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT USING ANYTHING THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE USING, RIGHT? THAT THEY'RE NOT BUILDING ANYTHING THAT YOU SHOULD BE BUILDING.
SO TO SUGGEST THAT WE'RE SPENDING THIS MONEY TO ALLOW THE LANDOWNERS TO SPRAY MORE CHEMICALS AS AN INJUSTICE TO THE, TO, TO THE, SO, SO LET BE, LET ME BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.
I AM VERY SPECIFICALLY TELLING YOU THAT WE ARE PAYING PEOPLE MONEY SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST TOLD ME.
THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SPRAY THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS SPRAYED INTO THE WATER, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO DRINK ANY OF THOSE THINGS, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA PAY FOR THEM TO CONTINUE DOING IT.
AND SO YOU'RE GETTING MY NO VOTE, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR PROJECT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING I WISH SOMEBODY WOULD'VE BROUGHT TO ME BEFORE ME VOTING, YOU KNOW, ASKING ME TO VOTE FOR THREE AND A AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
OKAY, SO I'M, I'M GONNA CHIME IN HERE.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THE AQUIFER PROTECTION PROGRAM FOR 20 YEARS AT THE WILL OF THE VOTERS.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN PERHAPS THE MOST POPULAR.
UM, I, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE DONE SOMETHING FOR 20 YEARS, BUT MISTAKES CAN TAKE THAT LONG TO CONTINUE BEING MADE.
AND SO THAT RINGS HOLLOW TO ME IF WE'RE SPENDING THAT MUCH MONEY ON PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY.
UM, AND IF WE VOTED ON THIS A LONG, LONG TIME AGO, THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY BAD IDEAS THAT WERE VOTED ON A LONG TIME AGO.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S MY OBJECTION TO THIS, MAYOR.
IT'S NOT, AND FOR ALL I KNOW, IT IS A GOOD IDEA FOR ALL I KNOW, IT'S THE MOST BRILLIANT IDEA THAT WE'VE EVER COME UP WITH.
BUT YOU'D THINK THAT SOMEBODY WOULD COME TALK TO ME ABOUT IT BEFORE ASKING FOR A $3 MILLION SPEND ON SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF A COUNTY.
I, I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO ATTEND THE UPCOMING B SESSION.
WE'LL GO FURTHER INTO THE AQUIFER PROTECTION PROGRAM.
IN THE MEANTIME, UH, NOTE FOR THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM, WE HAVE PURCHASED CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON APPROXIMATELY 150,000 ACRES AND HAVE BEEN LAED FOR DOING SO BY INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITIES, I WOULD SAY, UH, AND HAS BEEN AGREED TO BY, UH, MANY, UH, ON THIS DAIS.
UH, FOR MANY DECADES, THE GREATEST EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO OUR ECONOMY, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, OUR COMMUNITY HERE IS THE
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CONTAMINATION OR SOMEHOW COMPROMISE OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER.THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN DEVELOPED BY CONSERVATIONISTS, BY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY, BY FOLKS IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY PUT IN FRONT OF VOTERS, UH, SINCE 2000 HAS DONE QUITE WELL.
AND I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE WORK THAT OUR STAFF AS WELL AS, UH, GRANT ELLIS, UH, IN PARTICULAR HAS DONE IN MONITORING THESE PROPERTIES AND COMING UP WITH AGREEMENTS THAT ARE IN PART PROTECTION OF PROPERTY RIGHTS, BUT ALSO A COMMUNITY TRUST, UH, THAT'S BEEN BUILT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD COMPROMISE THE AQUIFER, UH, BOTH IN OUR RECHARGE ZONE WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY, UH, THE RECHARGE ZONE WITHIN COMAL MEDINA, GUADALUPE, UH, AND ALSO EXTENDING INTO THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE NOW.
SO, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE GETS BRIEFED FURTHER, UH, ON THE CONDITION OF THE PROGRAM, UH, GOING FORWARD, BUT ALSO THE EASTMANS AS THEY COME UP FOR PURCHASE.
UH, AND NOTE FOR THE AGENDA, ANYTIME, UH, YOU WANT TO GET A HOLD OF HOMER OR GRANT, UH, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE NOTE THESE THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA COMING UP.
SO THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 14.
ITEM NUMBER 25 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A TICKETING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH TICKETMASTER, L L C TO PROVIDE EXCLUSIVE EVENT TICKETING SERVICES FOR THE CONVENTION AND SPORTS FACILITIES DEPARTMENT FOR A FIVE YEAR TERM WITH AN OPTION TO RENEW.
REVENUES GENERATED FROM THIS AGREEMENT WILL BE DEPOSITED INTO THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS FACILITIES FUND.
UM, AND I'LL ASK, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION AGAIN.
I THINK THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT.
GOOD MORNING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AGAIN, MY NAME'S PATRICIA MUSHOR, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND SPORTS FACILITIES.
ITEM 25 IS FOR APPROVAL OF A TICKETING SYSTEM AGREEMENT WITH TICKETMASTER FOR THE CONVENTION AND SPORTS FACILITIES.
THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT IS A FIVE-YEAR TERM WITH A FIVE-YEAR RENEWAL OPTION, AS I MENTIONED YESTERDAY.
I'M GONNA GO, UM, OVER SOME OF OUR GOALS FROM THE DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE.
WE HAD SEVERAL GOALS FOR THIS PROCESS.
FIRST, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE, UH, HAVE A SOPHISTICATED TICKETING SYSTEM THAT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF PRESENT AND EMERGENT EMERGE, UH, EMERGING TECHNOLOGY.
AND WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO, UH, PARTNER WITH A RESPONDENT WHO WOULD INVEST, DEPLOY, UH, TECHNOLOGICAL AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ON AN ONGOING BASIS TO ENSURE THAT WE MAINTAINED A STATE-OF-THE-ART SYSTEM.
SECOND, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WAS EASY AND CONVENIENT TO USE FOR NOT ONLY THE CONSUMER, BUT ALSO FOR STAFF AND ONE THAT PROVIDED THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE IN A TIMELY, EFFECTIVE, AND EFFICIENT MANNER FOR US.
WE WERE ALSO LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH A RESPONDENT WHO PROVIDED THE BEST VALUE TO OUR CONSUMERS THROUGH REASONABLE AND FLEXIBLE, UH, CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEES.
ALSO, VERY IMPORTANT WAS A SYSTEM THAT PROVIDED EXTENSIVE MARKETING RESOURCES IN ORDER TO HELP US SELL MORE TICKETS AND INCREASE ATTENDANCE AT OUR EVENTS.
AND IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, EQUALLY IMPORTANT WAS TO CONTRACT WITH A RESPONDENT WHO IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF ANTI-FRAUD MEASURES AND CAN OFFER MAXIMUM SECURITY OF ALL DATA.
IT WAS ALSO IMPORTANT, UH, TO PARTNER WITH A RESPONDENT WHO CAN PROVIDE ONSITE TECHNICAL SUPPORT TO HELP US RESOLVE ANY ISSUES THAT MIGHT OCCUR BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER AN EVENT.
AND LAST, WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PROPOSAL THAT COULD PRO PROVIDE THE BIGGEST RETURN TO THE CITY, WITH THE GOAL BEING THAT THE MORE REVENUE WE HAVE, THE MORE MONEY WE HAVE TO OFFSET OUR OPERATIONS TO ENHANCE OUR BUILDINGS, AND ALSO TO HELP US PAY OFF DEBT ON THE RECENT RENOVATIONS AT THE ALAMO DOME.
AS FAR AS THE SOLICITATION PROCESS, THE DEPARTMENT FOLLOWED THE CURRENT PROCESS.
A PRES SOLICITATION BRIEFING WAS PRESENTED TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNT ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE IN DECEMBER.
IN JANUARY, THE DEPARTMENT ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
PROPOSALS WERE DUE IN FEBRUARY.
THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE DECIDED TO INTERVIEW AND EVALUATE ALL RESPONDENTS IN APRIL.
AND A, A POST ELICITATION BRIEFING WAS PRESENTED TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE LAST MONTH ON AUGUST 30TH.
AND THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE VOTED TO MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION FOR TODAY'S AGENDA.
THE NEW CONTRACT IS SCHEDULED TO COMMENCE ON OCTOBER 1ST, PENDING YOUR ACCOUNT, PENDING YOUR APPROVAL TODAY, AS HER CONTRACT EXPIRES ON SEPTEMBER 30TH.
SO THE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED PROPOSALS FROM THREE RESPONDENTS, INCLUDING TICKETMASTER, THE TOBIN CENTER, AND SQUAD UP
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WITH REGARDS TO EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATION.TICKETMASTER RECEIVED THE HIGHEST PO POINTS FOLLOWED BY THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAD UP AND EVALUATING THE PROPOSALS.
THE COMMU COMMITTEE SAW A VAST DIFFERENT IN THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS SERVED, THE ANNUAL TICKET SOLD, AND THE ASSOCIATED REVENUE BETWEEN TICKETMASTER AND THE OTHER RESPONDENTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, TICKETMASTER HAS 43 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE COMPARED TO SIX YEARS FOR BOTH THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAT UP.
TICKETMASTER SELLS 480 MILLION TICKETS ANNUALLY COMPARED TO 250,000 BY THE TOBIN CENTER.
TICKETMASTER ALSO HAS 1.4 BILLION, BILLION ANNUAL VISITORS TO THEIR WEBSITE, COMPARED TO 1.2 MILLION TO THE TOBIN CENTER.
THE EXTENSIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT TICKETMASTER IS AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN THIS MARKET, SITS TICKETMASTER.
APART FROM THE OTHER RESPONDENTS UNDER THE PROPOSED PLAN, TICKETMASTER ALSO RECEIVED THE HIGHEST POINTS, FOLLOWED BY THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAT UP.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT SET TICKETMASTER APART FROM THE OTHER RESPONDENTS INCLUDED, THEY OFFERED THEIR OWN TICKETING SYSTEM THAT THEY OWN AND MAINTAIN SQUAD UP ALSO, UH, PROPOSED THEIR OWN TICKETING SYSTEM.
THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED A THIRD PARTY TICKETING SYSTEM SUPPORTED BY AUDIENCE VIEW, WHICH IS A WHITE LABEL COMPANY, COMPANY, AND A WHITE LABEL COMPANY, PRETTY MUCH IN THIS CASE, PROVIDES A TICKETING SYSTEM THAT THEY SELL TO OTHER COMPANIES TO REBRAND AS THEIR OWN.
THIS TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP RESULTS IN A TIERED CUSTOMER SUPPORT, WHICH COULD RESULT IN DELAYS IN SERVICE AND HINDER OUR OPERATIONS.
TICKETMASTER ALSO HAS NOT ONLY A HUGE LOCAL, BUT A GLOBAL MARKETING REACH.
AS I TOLD YOU YESTERDAY, DURING OUR MOST RECENT INTERNATIONAL SOCCER EVENT, OVER 56% OF THE ONLINE TICKETS WERE SOLD OUTSIDE OF THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET.
LOCALLY, TICKETMASTER HAS FIVE TIMES MORE SUBSCRIBERS THAN THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAD UP THE EXPOSURE RESULTS IN AN INCREASED OPPORTUNITY FOR TICKET SALES.
ADDITIONALLY, TICKETMASTER HAS BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS WITH FELT WITH THE MESSINA GROUP, ATTRACTIONS WITH SOCCER, UNITED MARKETING, WHO BROUGHT US TO THE LAST SOCCER EVENT.
AND WITH LIFE NATION, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR EVENTS WITH OVER 50% OF OUR ANNUAL ATTENDEES AT THE ALAMO DOME.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OUR TWO TENANTS, U T S A AND VALERO ALAMO BOWL, ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN AGREEMENTS WITH TICKETMASTER TO SELL SEASON TICKETS.
TICKETMASTER ALSO OFFERED THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF LOCAL, REGIONAL, AND NATIONAL ACCOUNT REPRESENTATIVES WITH 24 7 TECHNICAL SUPPORT, AND TICKETMASTER WAS THE ONLY RESPONDENT THAT WAS CERTIFIED TO PROCESS CREDIT CARDS TRANSACTIONS THROUGH THE CITY'S MERCHANT BANKING SERVICE PROVIDERS PLATFORM.
AS AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION TO OUR R F P RESPONDENTS WERE ASKED TO PROPOSE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT ENHANCEMENT FUND.
TICKETMASTER PROPOSED $50,000 PER YEAR TO BE USED CITYWIDE.
THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED A 500,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND, AND YESTERDAY I STATED THAT THE CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE USED AT THE TOBIN.
BUT AFTER THE PRESENTATION YESTERDAY, THE TOBIN CLARIFIED TO CITY MANAGEMENT THAT THIS CONTRIBUTION WOULD GO TO THE CITY.
I WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THE REVENUE DISTRIBUTION UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL IN JUST A MINUTE.
NEXT, UNDER THE ECONOMIC TERMS, UM, A COMPARISON OF THE ECONOMIC TERMS, THE PROPOSALS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
AND AGAIN, TICKET MASTER UNDER THE PRICING CATEGORY SCORE AT THE HIGHEST, UNDER, UNDER THE TICKETMASTER AGREEMENT, THE CITY WILL RECEIVE $2 MILLION PER YEAR COMPARED TO 1.5 MILLION UNDER THE TOBIN CENTER AND 173,000 THROUGH THE SQUATTED PROPOSAL.
TICKETMASTER WAS THE ONLY RESPONDENT THAT OFFERED ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES, SUCH AS A ONE-TIME 250,000 SIGN-ON BONUS, TICKETMASTER PROPOSED A 50,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE MARKETING AND TECHNOLOGY FUND.
BOTH THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAT UP PROPOSED THE MINIMUM CONTRIBUTION OF 25,000.
TOBIN PROPOSED TO USE THE FUNDS TO ADVERTISE AND PROMOTE THEIR OWN TICKETING SYSTEM AS A SOURCE FOR ADVANCE TICKETS TO ATTRACTIONS TO EVENTS AT THE VENUES.
IN RELATION TO FEES TO CUSTOMER, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.
UNDER THE TICKETMASTER AGREEMENT, FEES WILL NOT INCREASE MORE THAN 20 CENTS
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EVERY OTHER YEAR COMPARED TO THE 50 CENTS.TICKETMASTER AND SQUAT UP OFFERED SUPPLIES AT NO CHARGED AND PROPOSED ZERO STARTUP COST.
THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED 269,000 IN INITIAL EQUIPMENT PURCHASES TO BE NETTED OUT OF THE CONTRIBUTION FROM THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND, AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR DATA MIGRATION ONTO THE AUDIENCE VIEW, UH, PLATFORM AT THE CITY'S EXPENSE.
THE TOBIN CENTER ALSO PROPOSED A CHARGE OF 1 CENT PER TICKET AND 7 CENTS PER ENVELOPE.
THESE FEES EQUATE TO ABOUT $16,000 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AS COST TO THE CITY.
TICKETMASTER ALSO PROPOSED ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES SUCH AS A ONE-TIME CONTRIBUTION OF $10,000 TO ESTABLISH A BOX OFFICE AND OR TO ENHANCE THE BOX OFFICE AT THE LILA COCKRELL CENTER IN PREPARATION FOR THE BROADWAY ACROSS AMERICA'S SERIES, STARTING THERE IN 2023.
AND THEY ALSO PROPOSED A ONE-TIME ALLOWANCE OF 30,000 TO ESTABLISH REMOTE BOX OFFICE LOCATIONS AT THE ALAMO DOME.
WHENEVER WE HAVE OUR EXTENDED PERIMETER, AGAIN FOR AN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND, TICKETMASTER PROPOSED A CONTRIBUTION OF 50,000 PER YEAR TO BE USED CITYWIDE, THE TOBIN CENTER.
NOW WE KNOW PROPOSED A 500,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION NET OF THESE, UH, STARTUP EQUIPMENT COSTS TO THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT TO BE USED.
AGAIN, THIS WOULD GO TO THE CITY.
SO, UH, JUST FOR FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE REVENUE UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL STAFF AND THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE PREVIOUSLY UNDERSTOOD THAT THE 500,000 WOULD BE USED AT THE TOBIN CENTER BASED ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED ON THEIR PROPOSAL INFORMATION, UH, PRESENTED DURING THEIR PRESENTATION AND RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS REQUESTED FOR CLARIFICATION.
HOWEVER, YESTERDAY WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE INTENDING FOR THESE $500,000 TO COME TO THE CITY.
LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH HOW THE FUNDS WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED UNDER THE TICKET MASS.
UH, UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL, THE SLIDE IS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ, BUT IN YEAR ONE, YOU WILL SEE THAT, UH, THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE 1.5 MILLION.
THAT 1.5 MILLION WOULD BE REDUCED BY A HUNDRED THOUSAND, AND IT COST TO THE CITY FOR THE DATA MIGRATION TO THE AUDIENCE VIEW PLATFORM.
AND IT WOULD BE REDUCED FOR THE COST OF THE TICKET STOCK.
SO IN YEAR ONE, THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE $1.384 MILLION, YEAR TWO, 1.48, UM, AGAIN, 1.48 IN YEAR THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE.
NOW, THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, NOW, WE KNOW THAT THAT WOULD COME TO THE CITY 500, UP TO 500,000 AGAIN, BECAUSE THE 1.5 AND THE 500,000 ARE ALL BASED ON PROJECTIONS.
SO UP TO 500,000 WOULD COME TO THE CITY IN YEAR ONE, THAT 500,000 WOULD BE REDUCED BY EQUIPMENT STARTUP COSTS.
SO THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE APPROXIMATELY $231,000 TO THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND IN YEAR TWO, 500,000.
IT'S REDUCED BY ANNUAL EQUIPMENT COSTS IN YEAR FOUR, 475,000, AND IN YEAR FIVE, 400,000.
NOW, IN THEIR PROPOSAL ALSO, THE TOBIN SAID, YOU KNOW, FURTHER FUNDS, THIS IS HOW THEY WOULD DISTRIBUTE.
WE WOULD HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
THAT WOULD BE REVENUE GOING TO THE TOBIN.
BUT OF MORE EXEMPT BASED ON HISTORICAL DATA, THEY WOULD GET ABOUT 2 MILLION, $2 MILLION OF THAT.
THAT WOULD BE REDUCED, ABOUT 400,000 TO PAY FOR THE SOFTWARE COSTS.
FOR AUDIENCE VIEW, THAT WOULD NET THEM CLOSE TO 1.6 MILLION.
AND THEN FROM THAT, THEY SAID THEY WOULD DISTRIBUTE CLOSE TO 300,000 TO THE RESIDENT COMP COMPANIES, AND THE REMAINING ABOUT 800,000 WOULD GO TO FUND THE TOBIN OPERATIONS AND ALSO TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE TOBIN.
SO NEXT, IN THE OVERALL SCORING, AGAIN, WHEN WE EVALUATED THIS PROPOSAL, TICKETMASTER RECEIVED 80 POINTS COMPARED TO 60 POINTS FOR THE TOBIN CENTER, AND 36 POINTS FOR SQUAD UP DUE DILIGENCE ON ALL THREE RESPONDENTS WAS COMPLETED BY THE CITY AUDITOR, THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
AND NO MAJOR FINDINGS OR EXCEPTIONS WERE FOUND.
IT IS WORTH IT IS NOTE, UH, WORTHY
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TO NOTE THAT TICKETMASTER SCORED THE HIGHEST IN THE CATEGORIES OF EXPERIENCE, PROPOSED PLAN AND PRICE.AND IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE LAST, UH, SLIDE THAT WE SHOWED YOU, THE CITY WOULD BE RECEIVING UNDER, EVEN UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL, LESS MONEY.
WE WOULD BE RECEIVING $2 MILLION FROM THE TICKET MASTER PROPOSAL UNDER THE TOBIN DISTRIBUTION.
IT'S LESS THAN $2 MILLION A YEAR EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
AND AS I STATED YESTERDAY AT BSES, OUR GOAL WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS FOR THIS CONTRACT IS PRIMARILY ABOUT SELLING TICKETS AND MAXIMIZING THE REVENUE TO OUR FACILITIES.
WE, WHILE STILL PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL TICKETING EXPERIENCES TO OUR CUSTOMERS, WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS, UM, BUT WE WANNA ENSURE THAT THERE'S LOW TICKET FEES FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT FOR A TICKETING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH TICKETMASTER FOR A FIVE YEAR, UH, TERM THROUGH, UH, IN A FIVE YEAR RENEWAL OPTION THROUGH SEPTEMBER 20, UH, SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2029.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY, ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE, UH, SOME CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM 25.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE THING.
UH, BASED ON THE DIRECTION AND THE WE RECEIVED YESTERDAY, UH, STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT THIS ITEM BE APPROVED TODAY.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK IN ABOUT 30 DAYS WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON HOW WE WOULD ENHANCE THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.
UH, WE DID SOME WORK YESTERDAY, BUT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME TO GET THAT COMPLETED YESTERDAY.
WE'D LIKE TO VISIT WITH THE, UH, ARTS AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE MEANINGFUL FOR ARTS AND CULTURE.
SO WE PROPOSE THAT IF THIS ITEM IS APPROVED TODAY, WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITHIN ABOUT 30 DAYS OR SO, UH, WITH A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT HOW WE CAN ENHANCE THE ARTS ENTERTAINMENT FUND FROM THE REVENUE THAT THE CITY'S GONNA BE RECEIVED, THAT $2 MILLION THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING.
UH, WE'LL MOVE THROUGH, UM, CITIZEN COMMENT ON THIS NOW, AND I THINK THAT'LL LEAVE US ALL THE TIME WE HAVE, UH, BEFORE OUR RECESS.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET, UM, THAT UNDERWAY.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH COREY COWARD, FOLLOWED BY MARY DOMINGUEZ.
I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SAN ANTONIO SYMPHONY AND A NEW RESIDENT TO, UM, SAN ANTONIO.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DRAW DREW ME MOST TO THE CITY IS OUR INCREDIBLY VIBRANT ARTS AND CULTURAL CULTURAL SCENE.
AND IN THE, IN, UM, UM, IN THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE ARTS, UH, ORGANIZATIONS IN SAN ANTONIO.
I DO SEED MY TIME TO MICHAEL FRESHER.
UM, MR. COWART, UM, MICHAEL, HAVE THREE MINUTES, UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE GIVES IT.
YOU CAN'T SEED SOME OF YOUR TIME.
SO, UH, MIKE, YOU'RE GONNA BE COMING UP HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'S GONNA SEED TIME TO YOU? KATHLEEN, YOU'RE, UH, YOU'RE UP IN JUST A SECOND AS WELL.
UH, FOLLOWED BY JENNA JERNIGAN.
MY NAME IS MARY DOMINGUEZ AND I WORK IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WITH THE SAN ANTONIO SYMPHONY.
I AM ALSO HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SAN ANTONIO ARTS, AND I SEED MY TIME TO MICHAEL FI, UH, FISHER.
WHO IS SEEDING TIME TO MICHAEL FISHER.
UM, OKAY, MIKE, YOU'LL HAVE NINE MINUTES.
KATHLEEN, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU ESTEEMED TO COUNCIL.
WE, WE, UH, APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.
UH, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR PAST, PRESENT AND WE HOPE FUTURE SUPPORT.
WE DON'T TAKE ANYTHING FOR GRANTED.
WE KNOW WE'RE WORTHY, BUT WE'RE NOT ENTITLED
SO WE, WE DO THANK YOU FOR, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT, UH, I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, BUT THERE ARE SOME NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHO PROBABLY DON'T REALIZE THAT WE ARE IN EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL DISTRICT.
WE TOUCH 55,000 CHILDREN EVERY DAY, EVERY YEAR WITH OUR, OUR WONDERFUL EDUCATION PROGRAMS AND OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UH, ACTIVITIES, UH, GO IN TO GIVE, HAVE OUR WONDERFUL MUSICIANS PERFORM 120 MUSICAL ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF A YEAR.
SO, UH, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT TO ALL THE ARTS IN SAN ANTONIO.
THANK YOU, MS. VAIL, MIKE, FRESHER, MIKE, YOU'LL HAVE NINE MINUTES, AND YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY LISA ROBBINS.
GOOD MORNING, MAYOR NUREMBERG, MEMBERS OF THE SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER WALSH.
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IS MICHAEL FRESHER, I'M PRESIDENT AND C E O AT THE TOBIN CENTER, LOCATED RIGHT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD CHAIR, SAM DAWSON AND THE REST OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AS WELL AS THE TOBIN RESIDENT COMPANIES, WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY FOR THE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT THAT HAS MADE THE TOBIN CENTER SUCH AN INTERNATIONAL SUCCESS AND HAS, HAS ALLOWED IT TO BE A LEADER IN THE SAN ANTONIO ARTS COMMUNITY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY TO GET YOU UPDATED ON THE MANY EFFORTS UNDERWAY AT THE TOBIN CENTER.
I WILL BE EXCITED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE TOBIN CENTER IS CONSISTENTLY RANKED AS ONE OF THE TOP PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS IN THE WORLD.
I'LL WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE TOBIN'S EDUCATION INITIATIVES GENERATION NEXT, WHICH SERVES OVER 100,000 SAN ANTONIO STUDENTS ANNUALLY, AND IS, AND IS THE FASTEST GROWING ARTS INTEGRATION INTEGRATION PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY.
I KNOW YOU'LL BE SURPRISED TO HEAR ABOUT HOW THE TOBIN CENTER IS NOW OPERATING IN 40 MARKETS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH ITS CONCERT PROMOTION COMPANY, TOBIN ENTERTAINMENT.
THE TOBIN CENTER IS THE CITY'S LARGEST BUYER OF TALENT.
I'LL BE, I'LL BE THRILLED TO EXPLAIN TO ALL OF YOU HOW THE TOBIN CENTER'S SEVEN RESIDENT COMPANIES USE THE FACILITY 285 DAYS A YEAR, AND HOW WE AVERAGE TWO EVENTS EACH AND EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE YOUR TICKETS FOR ANDREA BELLI AT THE AT AND T CENTER IN DECEMBER.
THAT'S A TOBIN ENTERTAINMENT SHOW.
BUT TODAY I'M HERE WITH OTHERS FROM THE SAN ANTONIO ARTS COMMUNITY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE AUTOMATED TICKETING R F P.
I'M GONNA TOUCH ON A COUPLE THINGS.
UH, THE TOBIN'S TICKETING DIVISION, WHICH IS TOBY SERVICES, RESPONDED TO THE R F P TOBY SERVICES, SELLS OVER 300,000 TICKETS A YEAR TO EVENTS RIGHT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO RECENTLY, THE, UH, TOBY WAS RECOGNIZED IN 2019 AS THE INTERNATIONAL TICKETING ASSOCIATION BOX OFFICE OF THE YEAR.
THAT'S AN INTERNATIONAL AWARD THAT PROVIDES, UH, FOR, UM, RECOGNITION FOR THE QUALITY OF OUR WORK.
OUR TICKETS HAVE BEEN SOLD IN ALL ZIP CODES IN BEXAR COUNTY.
OUR TICKETS HAVE BEEN SOLD IN EVERY STATE OF THE COUNTRY AND ALL THE MAJOR CITIES IN MEXICO.
WE HAVE SOLD TICKETS ON EVERY CONTINENT IN THE WORLD OTHER THAN AFRICA AND AUSTRALIA.
I'M NOT SURE WHY, BUT WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT WHY WE'RE NOT IN AFRICA AND AUSTRALIA.
TOBY SERVICES DON'T LET ANYBODY TELL YOU DIFFERENT IS WORLDWIDE.
THE SYSTEM THAT TOBY SERVICES USES IS CALLED AUDIENCE VIEW, AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, WHICH IS A MULTINATIONAL TICKETING SYSTEM THAT OPERATES AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY.
IN THE PRESENTATION THAT, UH, JUST FINISHED, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT SOME OF THE RESULTS ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND FINANCIAL SLIDES THAT WERE PRESENTED AT THE B SESSION YESTERDAY HAVE DIFFERENT NUMBERS ON THEM TODAY, LESS THAN 24 HOURS SINCE THAT BRIEFING AND MINUTES BEFORE YOU NEED TO VOTE.
THE NUMBERS AS PRESENTED ARE ALSO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS PRESENTED IN PAGE 43 OF THE TICKETING SERVICES AGREEMENT, WHICH YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
FURTHER, ALL OF THESE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS WHAT'S PRESENTED ON THE FI, UH, CITY'S FISCAL FISCAL IMPACT FORM.
THIS HAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF NUMBERS.
THIS IS ALL VERY CONFUSING AND IT SHOULD BE CONCERNING TO THE PROCESS.
THESE DISCREPANCIES SHOULD BE RECONCILED BEFORE THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS DISCUSSION.
WHAT SHOULDN'T BE CONFUSING IS THE TRANSFORMATIVE IMPACT THAT THIS AGREEMENT COULD HAVE ON THE SAN ANTONIO ARTS COMMUNITY.
THE TICKETING SERVICES CONSIDERED UNDER THIS R F P WILL GENERATE ROUGHLY BETWEEN 1.3 AND $2 MILLION IN DIRECT REVENUES TO THE CITY.
AND THAT'S DEPENDING ON TICKET FEE LEVELS AND VOLUME, AMOUNT OF SALES.
THE TICKETING, I SHOULD SAID THAT THE RESULT, THIS RESULTS IN ABOUT $20 MILLION IN DIRECT REVENUE TO THE CITY OVER THE 10 YEARS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE, THESE DOLLARS ARE WISELY USED TO HELP, UH, FUND ONGOING FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS AT THE ALAMODOME AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THERE IS 10, ABOUT ANOTHER $20 MILLION OVER THE TERM THAT, OF THIS AGREEMENT THAT IS THE VENDOR'S PROFIT ON THIS CONTRACT.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PROPOSALS LIE.
THE CONTRACT THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING PROPOSES A CONTRIBUTE $50,000 A YEAR TO AN ARTS ENHANCEMENT FUND OVER THE LIFE OF THE CONTRACT AND RENEWAL RENEWALS.
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PROFITS GENERATED BY THE VENDOR WILL LEAVE SAN ANTONIO AND BENEFIT AN OUT-OF-STATE CORPORATION THAT'S JUST UNDER $20 MILLION THAT WILL SIMPLY LEAVE THE CITY.IN CONTRAST, TOBY SERVICES PROPOSES PROPOSAL CONTRIBUTES 500,000 PER YEAR TO THE ARTS AND ENHANCEMENT FUND.
THIS TOTALS TO $5 MILLION OVER 10 YEARS.
ADDITIONALLY, TOBY SERVICES HAS PROVIDED, HAS PROPOSED A TOBIN CENTER RESIDENT COMPANY FUND WITH JUST UNDER 300,000 IN YEAR ONE.
THIS NUMBER GROWS OVER THE TERM THAT WASN'T SHOWN TO YOU IN, IN THE, UH, WHAT YOU SAW ON THE SCREEN.
THAT NUMBER GROWS OVER THE TERM AND ALSO IS EQUAL TO ABOUT $5 MILLION FOR THE LOCAL ARTS COM COMMUNITY, UH, OVER 10 YEARS.
SO, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, IT'S $5 MILLION FOR THE ARTS FUND, $5 MILLION TO THE TOBIN RESIDENT COMPANIES WHO SURELY NEED IT.
10 MILLION TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARTS COMMUNITY VERSUS THE 500,000 IN THE PROPOSED CONTRACT.
NOW, THE REMAINING $1 MILLION A YEAR OR $10 MILLION OVER THE LIFE OF THE TERM STAYS RIGHT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AS REVENUE TO THE SOAP TOBIN CENTER.
THESE FUNDS WILL ALLOW THE TOBIN CENTER TO REMAIN WORLD-CLASS, CUTTING EDGE, AND A SELF-SUSTAINED COMMUNITY ARTS ASSET.
AS YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVE NO ONGOING FUNDING FROM THE CITY OR THE COUNTY.
SO TO BE CLEAR, IT'S 5 MILLION TO THE ARTS FUND, 5 MILLION TO THE RESIDENT COMPANIES, AND 10 MILLION TO THE TOBIN CENTER RIGHT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL DELAY THIS VOTE SO THAT A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE AGREEMENT CAN BE DONE AND TO SEE IF THIS IS REALLY THE BEST DEAL THAT CAN BE MADE FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE CONVENTION, SPORTS AND FACILITIES DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
$20 MILLION COULD BE TRANSFORMATIVE TO THE ARTS COMMUNITY IN SAN ANTONIO.
IT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO LET LEAVE SAN ANTONIO.
MS. ROBBINS, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY JEFF KARS.
GOOD MORNING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
I AM DIRECTOR OF CLIENT DEVELOPMENT FOR TICKETMASTER.
I COVER THE TEXAS MARKET AS WELL AS NEW MEXICO AND ARIZONA.
AND, UM, WE HAVE LONG ENJOYED A, A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THE STAFF, AND, UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY THE FANS OF SAN ANTONIO.
UM, FOR 20 PLUS YEARS, WE, UM, OUR REACH IS APPROXIMATELY, UM, 2 1 2 POINT MIL, 2.1 MILLION FANS, UM, IN THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET WHO ARE CONTACTING US ON A REGULAR BASIS LOOKING FOR EVENTS IN THE MARKET.
SO NOT JUST EVENTS AT THE CITY, UM, VENUES, BUT ALL AROUND SAN ANTONIO IN GENERAL.
WE HAVE, UH, 1.3 MILLION FANS IN THE MARKET WHO HAVE OPTED TO RECEIVE AN A WEEKLY EMAIL FROM US.
SO THEY'RE TELLING US THAT THEY WANT TO HEAR FROM US, US WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE ARE YOUR MARKETING.
WE'RE AN EXTENSION OF THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY VENUES, AND IT IS OUR JOB TO GROW THE, THE AUDIENCE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, SPREADING OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR REACH THAT WE, HOW WE CONTACT THE FANS, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO CULTIVATE THEM TO COME BACK TO YOUR EVENTS ON A, ON A, ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UM, WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF AFFILIATE PARTNERS TO HELP EXPAND THE REACH.
SO TRULY AS A MARKETING PARTNER, WE ARE DOING THE LEGWORK TO GO OUT THERE AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET MORE AWARENESS FOR YOUR EVENTS, FOR YOUR, AND BRING MORE FANS INTO THE CITY.
WHETHER THEY'RE SPENDING THE NIGHT AND GOING TO DIFFERENT SHOWS, THEY'RE EATING AT YOUR RESTAURANTS.
IT IS OUR JOB AS YOUR PARTNER TO DO THAT, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT SUCCESSFULLY FOR MANY YEARS.
UH, WE ARE ALSO A PARTNER WITH THE, THE TENANTS OF THE DOME IN TERMS OF THE US U T S A, UM, THE ALAMO BOWL.
WE, WE HAVE PROVIDED THEIR TICKETING SERVICES FOR MANY YEARS IN TERMS OF THE C R M, THE CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT, THE SEASON TICKET SOLUTIONS, THE SCANNING, UM, WE HAVE WORKED WITH, WE WORK WITH THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS.
SO EVERY MAJOR CITY, YOU KNOW, VENUE IN IN THE CITY IS, IS, UM, WORKING WITH TICKETMASTER AND EVERYBODY SORT OF BENEFITS FROM THAT, RIGHT? SO WE'RE BRINGING, WE'RE HELPING BRINGING ALL OF THOSE FANS TOGETHER AND, AND SHARING THAT INFORMATION TO, UH, TO ESSENTIALLY BRING MORE AUDIENCE TO, TO THE CITY VENUES.
UM, ONE OF OUR FOCUSES, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR INNOVATION, INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY IS FAN IDENTITY.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHO'S IN THE VENUE.
UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW WHO'S COMING IN, WHAT, FOR, FROM A FAN, FAN SECURITY PERSPECTIVE, JUST TO KNOW, UM, AT ANY GIVEN POINT WHO'S IN THE BU BUILDING.
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SELLING THE TICKET, IT'S ABOUT KNOWING WHO'S IN THE VENUE AND, AND WHO'S COMING.SO IF YOU NEED TO, UM, COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.
SO OVER 11 MILLION FANS HAVE DOWNLOADED OUR, OUR MOBILE APP.
SO MEANING WHEN THEY'RE COMING INTO THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET, WHAT ARE, HOW ARE THEY FINDING OUT ABOUT OUR EVENTS? THEY'RE FINDING OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING TOP-NOTCH TECHNOLOGY THAT'S HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING UP.
UH, AT THIS TIME, CITY COUNCIL WILL, UH, RECESS, UH, FOR A BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENT.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECONVENE THE MEETING.
TIME IS 11:13 AM IF YOU SEE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WITH AN EARSHOT, TELL HIM TO GET TO THE DAIS, PLEASE.
UM, AND I'LL MOVE NOW TO COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO.
UM, I PULLED THIS ITEM, UH, WELL, I PRETTY MUCH, I DESCRIBED THIS YESTERDAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS I HAVE A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL START FIRST WITH A, A COMMENT THAT, UH, WAS ASKED, OR A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED OF ME JUST A MINUTE AGO.
UM, AND IT'S LIKE, WHY, WHY IS THIS BEING CLEARED UP NOW? I SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, SO CAN I, EXCUSE ME, CAN I ASK MIKE, MIKE, FRESHER, CAN YOU COME UP FOR A SECOND? SO, AGAIN, WE SAW THAT FROM YESTERDAY TO TODAY.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CLARIFICATION AND, AND DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
AND, AND THERE'S A SLIDE, THERE WAS A SLIDE RIGHT AFTER SLIDE SIX.
IF, IF THEY, YOU ALL COULD PULL THAT UP.
'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S, THAT WASN'T PART OF WHATEVER'S IN YESTERDAY'S PRESENTATION, AND IT'S NOT IN MY, MY IPAD HERE THAT I CAN REFERENCE.
BUT I GUESS THE, THE, THE QUESTION IS WHY, HOW, WHAT'S THE CONFUSION? WHY, WHY IS IT THAT, THAT, UM, THE CITY GOT IT, GOT IT WRONG IN TERMS OF THE ALLOCATIONS? WE PROVIDED THEM NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SINCE THAT MEETING, UH, YESTERDAY.
SO THEY HAD ALL OF THE INFORMATION.
SO I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER THAT.
I DO HAVE, IF I CAN PUT THIS UP, UM, OUR SUBMITTAL, WHICH IS FORM, I THINK IT'S CALLED 15 B, AND IT IS PRETTY CLEAR ON HERE WHAT OUR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE TO THE ARTS, UH, FUND AND WHAT OUR CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM THERE AND WHAT OUR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE TO THE, UH, TOBIN CENTER RESIDENT COMPANY FUND.
CAN YOU SHOW THAT ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE? THERE? IT'S, SO, UH, CAN YOU PUSH IT KIND OF TO THE RIGHT, THE PIECE, PIECE OF PAPER TO THE RIGHT PIECE OF PAPER TO THE RIGHT.
SO I CAN SEE THE LEFT HAND COLUMNS, RIGHT.
SO RIGHT THERE AT THE BOTTOM, UH, WHERE THE, THE NUMBERS ARE, ARTS, ENTERTAINMENT, ARTS ENHANCE ENHANCEMENT FUND, 500,000, TOBIN RESIDENT SUPPORT 279,000.
AND AGAIN, I DIDN'T, I HAVEN'T PROVIDED THEM ANY MORE INFORMATION THAN THEY ALREADY HAD YESTERDAY, MIKE.
BUT THE, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IF I MIGHT, IS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THE SCORING HAS BEEN ADJUSTED NOW THAT THERE'S A REVELATION THAT OUR PRICING WAS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN THEY THOUGHT.
PATRICIA, WELL, I, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE ANSWER THAT AS WELL.
SO ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED, AGAIN THROUGH, UH, THE PROPOSAL, THROUGH THE INTERVIEW AND CLARIFICATION RESPONDENTS, THE, THE INTERPRETATION WAS THAT THAT WAS TO GO BACK TO THE TOBIN CENTER.
WOULD YOU DO THAT? THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND STAFF.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY HAD IN THEIR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, THEY HAD A DISTRIBUTION TO THE CITY, THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE TO THE CITY, AND BASICALLY DISTRIBUTION TO, UM, THE TOBIN AND THAT THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT WAS SHOWN UNDER THE DISTRIBUTION TO THE TOBIN.
SO CAN WE PULL UP THAT SLIDE THAT WAS UP BEFORE THE ONE BEF, UM, BETWEEN SIX, THAT ONE.
SO, I MEAN, HERE I'M SEEING THE TOTAL RESIDENT CO, UH, COMPANY FUND, AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT NUMBER, RIGHT? AND SO I, I GUESS, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST KIND OF ADDING TO THE CONFUSION, UM, BECAUSE WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 500,000 AND I SEE IT THERE, OR IT AND ENTER ENTERTAINMENT FUND 500,000,
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AND THEN DOWN BELOW IS TOTAL RESIDENT COMPANY FUND.IS THAT COMING OUTTA THE SAME FUND? LET ME SEE IF I CAN CLEAR THAT.
CLARIFY THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN, UM, UH, GOOD MORNING OR GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
UM, SO THE, AS PATRICIA SAID, THE COMMITTEE AND THE STAFF UNDERSTOOD BY THE PRESENTATION THAT THE 500,000 ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND WAS INTENDED TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENT COMPANIES AT THE TOBIN CENTER, THE, THE SYMPHONY, THE BALLET, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT SYMPHONY BALLET AND HOW THIS WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT THOSE ARTS, UH, ENTITIES.
SO WHEN, WHEN STAFF WAS PUTTING TOGETHER THE PRESENTATION, THE, THE, UM, IT WAS LISTED AS $500,000 WAS LISTED ON THE ECONOMIC TERMS. AND IT WAS, HAD A FOOTNOTE SAYING THIS WAS INTENDED TO GO BACK TO THE, UH, THE TOBAN CENTER IN THE FORM OF CONTRIBUTION TO THE ARTS FUNDS.
BUT CLEARLY IT'S GOING TO THE ARTS, THE, THE, THE BOTTOM TWO LINES YOU SEE THERE IS THE REVENUE THAT THE TOBAN CENTER IS KEEPING.
IT IS NOT REVENUE COMING TO THE CITY.
IT'S THEIR OWN MONEY AND HOW THEY PLAN TO USE THEIR MONEY.
AND THE REASON IT SHOWS, UH, UH, MR. FRESHER, MICHAEL DID A GOOD JOB OF COMING UP AND, AND TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, BUT, UH, THE REASON IT SHOWS 2 98 GOING STRAIGHT ACROSS IS BECAUSE THE, THAT IS BASED ON THE HISTORIC INFORMATION.
WHEN FINANCE DEPARTMENT LOOKS AT, UH, PROPOSALS AND DOES THEIR, THEIR, UH, CALCULATIONS, IT'S BASED ON THE HISTORY, NOT BASED ON PROJECTIONS.
SO NO ESCALATOR TO THAT, RIGHT? I'M SORRY.
THERE'S ALSO NOT AN ESCALATOR.
THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S, WE JUST GOT OUT, OUT OF A PRESS CONFERENCE THAT SAID 600 NEW JOBS ARE COMING INTO THE CITY.
WE'RE GROWING, AND YET THAT'S NOT GROWING AND DOING THE COMPARISON.
WE LOOK AT HISTORIC INFORMATION.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE CITY DOES IT TO LOOK AT, AT CONSERVATIVE RATHER THAN, THAN HAVE SOMEBODY, 'CAUSE SOMEBODY CAN PROJECT ONE THING AND SOMEBODY CAN PROJECT SOMETHING ELSE.
SO THAT'S THE WAY, THAT'S THE REASON THAT NUMBER IS FLAT.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE IS THAT'S NOT UNDER THE CITY'S CONTROL.
IT WOULD NEVER BE UNDER THE CITY'S CONTROL.
THEY COULD DECIDE IN YEAR ONE TO GIVE IT TO THE RESIDENTS COMPANIES.
NO, I UNDERSTAND ALL, AND YOU'RE THREE TO SOME TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
I GUESS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT WAS THAT YESTERDAY, THE COMMENT WAS MADE, THE $500,000 WAS, WAS BASICALLY THAT FUND, I'M SIMPLY POINTING OUT THAT THERE IS A RESIDENT COMPANY FUND.
IT'S THE 2 98, 2 16 AND THERE, AND THEN THE 500,000 THAT WAS QUOTED YESTERDAY, WA IS NOT WHAT WAS DESCRIBED YESTERDAY.
IT IS GOING TO THE CITY, TO THE, UH, ARTS ENTERTAINMENT FUND, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND, AND THAT, AND THAT CAME IN MIND.
I, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT TO ME, COUNCILMAN.
SO I TALKED TO MICHAEL DIRECTLY AND I SAID, WAS YOUR INTENTION TO USE THAT MONEY ONLY FOR THE RESIDENT AGENCIES AT THE TOKEN CENTER? AND HE SAID, NO, IT WAS INTENDED TO GO INTO YOUR FUND AND LET YOU USE IT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE MADE THIS CHANGE TODAY TO SHOW THAT TO BE.
I JUST WANNA SAY ONE OTHER THING IS, AFTER THE PRESENTATION, THIS IS LIMITED TO THE PRESENTATION PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, ONCE THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO ER, TO RECOMMEND THE TICKETMASTER, WE SPENT, AS YOU KNOW, MONTHS DRILLING DOWN, NEGOTIATING, UH, WITH THE TOBIN, EXCUSE ME, WITH TICKETMASTER.
THE INFORMATION WE PROVIDED WAS BASED ON THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS RECEIVED AND THE SUBMITTALS.
UM, BUT, BUT THIS IS KIND OF, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I'M GETTING AT WITH ALL THIS.
ERIC, ERIC, ERIC WANTS TO JUMP IN WITH, WITH, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, CARLOS OR PATRICIA, IF YOU'LL COVER THAT, THAT, UH, THAT LANGUAGE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE TOBIN PROPOSAL AND WALK THROUGH THAT, PLEASE.
THAT INFORMATION BASICALLY, UM, UNDER THE PROPOSAL, THAT WAS TOBIN'S RESPONSE OF HOW THE REVENUE WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED.
AND IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN THAT TABLE THAT WAS JUST UP.
AND IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT TOBY WILL ALLOCATE 50% OF ITS REVENUE, UM, TO THE AGREEMENT, TO THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, OF COURSE, LESS THE STARTUP COSTS FOR EQUIPMENT IN ANY ANNUAL EQUIPMENT COSTS, LIKE WE'VE SHOWN.
AND THAT THE BALANCE WOULD BE, UM, WOULD GO TO THE RESIDENT COMPANIES AND THE OTHER 50% OF THE REVENUE THAT THEY WOULD GET WOULD BE FOR THE OPERATIONS OF THE TOBIN CENTER AND IMPROVEMENTS AT THE TOBIN CENTER.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE REPRESENTED IN THE SPREAD IN THE TABLE AND SPREADSHEET THAT WAS JUST, UH, SHOWN BEFORE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF WHY I'M, I'M SIMPLY ASKING FOR MORE TIME TO, TO VERIFY A LOT OF THIS.
I MEAN, THIS IS A COMPLEX DEAL.
UH, IT'S NOT A FIVE YEAR DEAL.
AND AS WE HEARD, THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIVE IMPACT TO OUR ARTS COMMUNITY.
IT'S, IT'S, THIS IS NOT ABOUT PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS.
THIS IS ABOUT THE, WHAT I REMEMBER THIS BEING THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF ALL THIS.
AND, UH, WHILE I CAN AGREE THAT,
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AND I KNOW CARLOS, YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, BUT IT WAS, AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE INTENT FROM YOUR FACIL FROM FACILITIES IS, IS TO DO THE MOST FOR FACILITIES.BUT OUR JOB UP HERE IS TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE CITY.
AND AS I SAID YESTERDAY, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING THE BEST USE OF ALL OUR RESOURCES.
WE'RE DOING THAT WITH OTHER THINGS LIKE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE'RE DOING A, UH, WITH HOMELESS, WE'RE ASKING THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS.
AND I MEAN, WE SHOULDN'T BE CHATTED FOR ASKING QUESTIONS.
WE SHOULDN'T, WE SHOULDN'T BE TOLD WE GOTTA HURRY UP AND GET IT DONE.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, POINTING OUT THAT IF, IF THIS IS SO, THEN WE LOSE THIS TRANSFORMATIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR, FOR THE ARTS.
UH, AND WORST CASE, WE SIMPLY DELAYED IT TO GIVE US TIME TO, TO CHECK THIS DATA.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM GOING FROM YESTERDAY TO TODAY, AND I SAID IT WAS ABOUT 18 HOURS IN THAT PROCESS, A LOT OF NUMBERS CHANGED.
A LOT OF CLARIFICATION WAS DONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, AN ONGOING STRUGGLE FOR US ON COUNCIL IS TO, IS TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE, THE, THE BIG PICTURE ITEMS WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT AND HOW WE ARE, ARE, ARE TRULY, UM, MAKING THE BEST, BEST POSSIBLE IMPACT FOR, FOR OUR CITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, I GUESS I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UH, ANOTHER, SOME OTHER QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF, UM, THE, THE, UH, WELL, FIRST MY STATEMENT, IT WAS YESTERDAY WAS THE, YOU KNOW, LOCAL PREFERENCE.
I STILL THINK THAT THIS, THIS SEEMS TO TO NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.
I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SAID, UH, A LONG TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO COMPARE.
I'M, I DON'T, I'M NOT ASKING YOU DIRECTLY.
UM, THE, WE SAID A LONG TIME AGO IN ORDER TO COMPETE WITH THESE NATIONAL ENTITIES, AND I GET IT, UH, TICKETMASTER IS A BEHEMOTH.
UM, BUT IS THAT, IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I GUESS I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IS, IS, IS, IS IT, WHY HAVE LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS IF, UH, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA APPLY THEM IN A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ALLOWS PEOPLE TO BE A LITTLE MORE COMPETITIVE WITH WHAT WE KNOW ARE INDUSTRY POWERHOUSES? UM, SO I'M, I'M TROUBLED BY THAT.
I'M TROUBLED BY A LOT OF THE NOTIONS THAT WE'RE TECHNICALLY CORRECT, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T FEEL LIKE IT, IT MEETS THE SPIRIT OF, OF LOCAL PREFERENCE.
AND I, I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT AND ADDRESS THAT TOPIC.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE, THE R F P RESPONSES WERE DUE FE FEBRUARY 15TH, AND THE INTERVIEW INTERVIEWS WERE DONE AT THE END OF APRIL.
AND, AND WE'RE NOW HEARING ABOUT IT AND TOLD, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACT'S UP AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, AND, UH, AND SO WE'RE BEING PRESSURED BY TIME, WHICH I, I GUESS I WOULD ASK, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THAT, BUT DID ANYBODY CONTACT TICKETMASTER ABOUT A POTENTIAL EXTENSION? UH, Y YES, SIR.
COUNCILMAN, I, I DID TALK TO 'EM YESTERDAY AND SAID, IF THE, IF THE CITY WERE TO DO THAT, UH, WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO WORK WITH US? AND THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD.
UM, SO, SO WE KNOW THAT WE CAN, WE CAN WORK OUT AN, AN EXTENSION.
UM, AND, AND, UH, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT IT'S REALLY BEST TO, TO HAVE A BRIEFING AND A DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION THAT DOESN'T, IS NOT, IS NOT ABOUT POINTING FINGERS, BUT RATHER TRYING TO FIND WHAT'S THE BEST VALUE FOR A CITY GETTING DOWN TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER.
UM, I THINK IT'S NO SECRET, UH, THAT I, WE ARE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, TO SUPPORT THE ARTS IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND, AND THIS IS, THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIVE IMPACT THAT, THAT IS, UH, THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ARTS.
AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO, I JUST WANT TO TAKE MY TIME TO, TO, TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER AND ASKING FOR A WEEK, OR IN THIS CASE A WEEK AND A HALF, IS I DON'T THINK TOO MUCH TO ASK, UM, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, THAT HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY ASKING FOR, UH,
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A, YOU KNOW, THOROUGH PROCESSES, UM, THIS IS WHY I'M TROUBLED BY A BRIEFING THAT'S, UH, ONE DAY AND A VOTE THE NEXT.IT'S, IT'S JUST TROUBLING TO ME.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE ALL HAVE.
AND I, AND I WANT TO GIVE MY, MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ASK VERY, VERY SIMILAR QUESTIONS.
YOU WHAT, WHAT IS NOT NOTED? AND AT LEAST THE WAY I SEE SOME OF THIS MATH IS THAT NOW THAT WE GOT THE $500,000 CORRECTED, IT GOES TO THE CITY.
THAT'S, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY $2 MILLION TO THE CITY.
IT'S $300,000 TO THE RESIDENT COMPANIES.
THOSE RESIDENT COMPANIES ARE COMPANIES WE HELP.
SO IT IN, IN IT REALLY WILL HELP ALL OF US.
I THINK THAT'S A $2.3 MILLION JUST IN, ITS ON ITS FACE.
NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT, UH, THE CASE WAS MADE THAT, THAT ALL THE MONEY STAYS HERE, ALL OF IT.
AND, UH, AND CERTAINLY THAT IS, THAT IS CRITICAL.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD MANY TIMES HOW WE, WE, ONE OF THE MISTAKES WE MADE IS AS A CITY WAS TO KIND OF HELP PARTICIPATE WITH THE TOBIN, AND THEN SORT OF JUST BACK OFF.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS KINDA SHOWING THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR PARTNERSHIP, IF THAT'S WHAT IS THE BEST DEAL FOR THE CITY.
SO, UH, I GUESS, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS WHY I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S CRITICAL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WE'RE HEARING IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS, UH, CHANGES TO THE NUMBERS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US NOT TOO LONG AGO.
UM, SO I MOVED TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, ADDED TO THE AGENDA ITEM AS AN ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND INCLUDE A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON IN THE PRESENTATION.
ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO PROPOSE A CONTRACT EXTENSION WITH TICKETMASTER TO ENSURE CONTINUITY OF SERVICE.
COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO, WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM 25 TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE COUNCIL MEETING, UM, AS WELL AS INSTRUCTIONS FOR STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE AN EXTENSION WITH TICKETMASTER, UH, PROVIDE CONTINUATION OF SERVICES.
UH, WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH COMMENT NOW.
HELLO? SORRY, WHAT'S THAT? COUNCILMAN? I TAPPED IN WHEN PATRICIA FIRST CAME UP TO THE MICROPHONE IS SO OVER.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY, UH, YESTERDAY AND FOR THE BRIEFING THAT, UH, YOU PROVIDED TO MY OFFICE, UH, I THINK THAT WAS LAST WEEK.
UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, ALL YOUR EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WENT THROUGH AS SMOOTHLY AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I DO HAVE SOME, UH, JUST SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
I, I DO INTEND TO SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THAT.
UH, JUST SOME, SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHO'S OUR CURRENT VENDOR RIGHT NOW FOR TICKET? A MASTER TICKET MASTER.
AND WHAT'S THE CURRENT REVENUE THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN? UH, OR THE NET REVENUE TO THE CITY? ABOUT A MILLION AND AVERAGE IS ABOUT A MILLION A YEAR.
AND SO THEIR, THEIR ESTIMATES ARE AT 2 MILLION A YEAR GOING FORWARD.
CAN I IMAGINE THAT WAS PART OF THEIR PLAN THAT THEY, UH, SCORED SO HIGHLY ON? CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? YES.
UH, PREVIOUSLY UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT, IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF, UH, CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEES UNDER THE NEW CONTRACT, IT'S A SET AMOUNT PER TICKET.
SO IT'S, UM, UNDER THE OLD ONE, BASICALLY A 55%, UM, REVENUE TO US.
AND THEY WOULD TAKE 45% UNDER THE NEW ONE.
IT'S ABOUT 60% TO THE CITY, 40% TO THEM, DEPENDING ON THE TICKET TYPE.
AND WAS THAT IN THE R F P OR IS THAT THEIR PROPOSAL? THAT WAS THEIR PROPOSAL.
COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH WHAT FEES WILL, WOULD BE CHARGED, UH, ON EACH TICKET SALE AND WHAT THOSE FEES GO TO? YES.
SO WE'RE GONNA PULL UP, UM, A SLIDE WE HAD IN YESTERDAY'S PRESENTATION THAT TALKS ABOUT ONLINE CONSUMER FEES.
AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT.
ONE IS FOR, UM, A TICKET FOR A 20 TO $40 FAMILY EVENT.
BASICALLY UNDER THE TICKET MASTER PROPOSAL.
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UM, PROCESSING FEES WOULD BE $13 AND 50 CENTS.UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE $13 AND 25 CENTS.
SO UNDER THE TICKET, UH, MASTER PROPOSAL, WE WOULD GET 58% OF THAT, AND THE VENDOR WOULD GET 42 IN YEAR 10, THAT UNDER THE TICKETMASTER PROPOSAL FOR THAT SAME TICKET, THE CONSUMER WOULD PAY $14 AND 70 CENTS.
UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL, THEY WOULD PAY $15 AND 25 CENTS, AND YOU COULD SEE THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE BASICALLY RETAINED BY THE CITY AND THE VENDOR.
BUT THAT EQUATES BASICALLY ABOUT 56%, UH, FOR US AND 44 FOR, UM, TICKETMASTER UNDER THE TOBIN, WE WOULD ONLY BE GETTING A 29% RETURN, AND 71% OF THAT WOULD BE GOING TOWARDS THE TOBIN.
AND SO THE FEE IS BASICALLY JUST WHAT TICKETMASTER'S CHARGING US TO DO TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE.
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, UH, HIDDEN IN THERE.
AND IF, UH, YOU PICK IT UP AT THE BOX OFFICE, WHAT ARE THE FEES THERE? YOU DO NOT PAY ANY CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEES.
THE ONLY FEES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE TICKET ARE $5 AND 50 CENTS.
UM, OUR OWN FEES TO PAY OFF DEBT ON THE RENOVATIONS AT THE ALAMO DO, I'M SORRY.
SO I, I PAY THAT IF I BUY IT ONLINE AS WELL.
THE ONLY TIME THAT THE CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEES ARE, UM, YES, UH, ASSESSED IT WOULD BE BUYING SOMETHING ONLINE, EITHER THROUGH THEIR WEBSITE OR ONLINE MOBILE, UM, APPLICATION.
THERE'S CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEES, AND THEN THERE'S THE ALAMO DOME RENOVATION DEBT YES.
AND, UH, THE SECOND ONE IS ALWAYS ASSESSED.
AND, UH, WHEN THE ALAMO DOME OPENED, THERE WAS SOME SORT OF TRANSPORTATION FEE ON THERE.
IS THAT NO LONGER THE CASE? WE STILL HAVE IT.
IT'S, UH, 50 CENT, UH, FACILITY ACCESS, WHAT WE CALL FACILITY ACCESS FEE.
25 CENTS OF THAT COMES TO US FOR OUR OPERATING.
AND 25 CENTS GOES TO VIA FOUR EVENTS THAT ARE 10,000 OR MORE IN ATTENDANCE.
UH, SO, AND THE MONEY THAT COMES TO US FROM THAT IS ALSO USED FOR ABO DOME UPGRADES AND REPAIRS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I, I HAVE ALL THE FEES DOWN.
SO IF I BUY AN EVENT TICKET AND IT'S, UH, PRICED AT $20 IN THE END, WHAT WILL I BE PAYING FOR THAT TICKET? SO IF I BUY IT ONLINE, IF YOU BUY IT ONLINE, FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER THIS PROPOSED CONTRACT IN YEAR ONE, IN YEAR ONE, IF YOU BUY IT ONLINE FOR $20 FAMILY EVENT, YOU WOULD BE PAYING $13 AND 50 CENTS UNDER THE TICKET MASTER PROPOSAL PLUS, OR FIVE 50.
AND THEN UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE $13 AND 25 CENTS PLUS, OR FIVE 50 FEES, PLUS THE 50 CENTS OF ITS OVER 10,000.
NO, THE, THE FIVE 50 ALREADY INCLUDES THAT, THAT 50 CENTS.
SO BASICALLY THERE'S A CHARGE, UM, THE FIVE 50 IS INCLUSIVE OF THAT 50 CENTS.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH, UH, DID WE NET LAST YEAR WITH THE, OR IN THE LAST FULL FISCAL YEAR WITH TICKETMASTER? IT, I KNOW THAT THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, SO DO YOU HAVE HISTORICAL ABOUT THAT? YEAH.
DO YOU HAVE HISTORICAL DATA LIKE FROM YEAR TO YEAR, WHAT WE'RE YES, WE DO.
AND AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPE OF EVENT MIX.
IF WE HAVE BETTER QUALITY EVENTS, MORE ATTENDANCE, MORE PEOPLE COMING TO OUR EVENTS THAN THE HIGHER REVENUE FOR THAT PARTICULAR YEAR.
SO THE AVERAGE IS $1 MILLION, $1 MILLION A YEAR.
UM, AND YOU'RE CHANGING FROM 55% TO 60% GOING TO THE CITY.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO DOUBLE THE REVENUE TO THE CITY.
AGAIN, BECAUSE I JUST GAVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE MM-HMM.
THEN THE, THE BREAKOUT IS BASICALLY WE RETAIN ABOUT 66% AND THEY, AND THE VENDOR RETAINS ABOUT 34%.
SO THE HIGHER THE TICKET PRICE, THE MORE MONEY THAT WE KEEP, THE MORE THE PERCENTAGE, THE MORE THE PERCENTAGE AND, AND THE NET.
UM, SO IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE JUST THE HISTORICAL, UH, AMOUNT OF, HOW LONG HAS TICKETMASTER BEEN THE PROVIDER SINCE THE ALAMO DOME? UM, SINCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE IT OPENED SINCE 1997 OR 93? OH GOD.
UH, SO, UH, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU HAVE AVAILABLE? I'M SORRY? DO YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE, THE HISTORICAL FIGURES? YES, WE DO.
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THEM WITH ME RIGHT NOW.LET ME ASK STAFF IF THEY CAN PRODUCE SOME AND GET THOSE TO YOU.
AND, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, SO BOTH OF THE, BOTH OF, OR ALL OF THE BIDDERS PROVIDED, UH, REVENUE ESTIMATES GOING FORWARD BASED ON A SET NUMBER OF TICKET SALES.
WHAT, WHAT IS THAT ESTIMATE BASED ON HOW MANY TICKET SALES OR, OR, YOU KNOW, IS HOW'D THEY DO THAT? SO WE PROVIDED THEM BASICALLY OUR EVENT MIX AND HISTORICAL, UH, SALES PROJECTIONS.
AND THEN THEY PROJECTED THEMSELVES WHAT THEY THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE, BUT JUST TO, UH, MAKE IT A FAIR PLAYING FIELD.
UH, FINANCE BASICALLY TOOK THOSE PROJECTIONS AND BASED IT OFF OF HISTORICAL FIGURES OF HISTORICAL NUMBERS OF TICKET SALES.
AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH A 2 MILLION FOR TICKETMASTER AND THE ONE AND A HALF MILLION FOR TOBY, BECAUSE UNDER TOBY'S PRESENTATION, THEY, WHAT THEY PRESENTED TO US THAT THE CITY WOULD BE GETTING WAS 1 MILLION.
SO REALLY, OUR PROJECTIONS ARE HIGHER THAN THE PROJECTIONS THAT THEY SUBMITTED TO US.
UM, AND, OKAY, SORRY, I'M GOING THROUGH MY LIST OF QUESTIONS HERE.
UH, I GUESS I WAS SURPRISED TO ONLY SEE THREE BIDDERS.
WERE THESE THE ONLY QUALIFIED ONES THAT CAME THROUGH? THEY WERE THE ONLY, THAT WE ONLY, UH, RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS, BUT IT WAS, UM, IT WAS ADVERTISED AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY, UH, COMPANIES WERE CONTACTED, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
THERE WERE NO OTHER RESPONDENTS THAT WERE DEEMED NON-RESPONSIVE.
THESE WERE THE ONLY THREE PROPOSALS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED.
AND HOW MANY COMPANIES DO YOU ESTIMATE DO THIS TYPE OF WORK? PROBABLY OVER A DOZEN.
BUT NOT NONE OF THEM, AS YOU KNOW, TO THE SIZE OF TICKETMASTER.
UM, AND, UH, WHEN THE R F P WAS DEVELOPED, DID THAT GET, UH, THIS IS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE WERE HAVING, WELL, THAT Y'ALL WERE HAVING YESTERDAY, UM, ABOUT, UH, HIGH PROFILE CONTRACTS.
DID THAT R F P GET REVIEWED BY COUNCIL BEFORE IT WENT OUT? LIKE WAS THERE A PRESENTATION TO A COMMITTEE OR TO FULL COUNCIL BEFORE IT WENT OUT? YEAH, WE WENT BEFORE THE, UM, AUDIT, AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE IN DECEMBER.
AND, UM, WHY 10 YEARS VERSUS THREE? I MEAN, FIVE OR A SMALLER AMOUNT, LIKE WHY IS IT SUCH A LONG CONTRACT? AGAIN, IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEGOTIATED BASED ON THE TERMS THAT WERE OFFERED.
WE FELT THAT A FIVE WITH A FIVE YEAR RENEWAL, UM, BASED ON ALL OF THEIR INCENTIVES OKAY.
UM, SO THE ONLY OUTSTANDING QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, THE HISTORICAL AND, UH, I'M STILL, I'D STILL LIKE TO SEE THE MATH ON HOW THE REVENUES WILL BE DOUBLE NEXT YEAR.
IS THAT A PART OF THE, UM, PRO SUBMITTED PROPOSAL THAT I CAN SEE? DO WE HAVE THE HISTORICAL, IT'S NOT PART OF THEIR PROPOSAL AND PRIOR TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY AROUND THE NUMBERS? 'CAUSE I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL STATEMENTS THAT THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT.
UM, IN REALITY THAT'S TRUE, BUT THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR IT.
SO WHEN WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT PROJECTING THE REVENUE TO THE CITY IN ORDER TO KEEP THINGS APPLES TO APPLES AND KEEP IT EQUAL BETWEEN ALL THE RESPONDENTS, AS PATRIZIA MENTIONED, WE WILL TAKE THE HISTORICAL SALES AND THE HISTORICAL TICKET COUNTS.
AND IN THIS EXAMPLE WITH TOBY, UM, A 55% COMMISSION, WE APPLY THAT TO THE HISTORICAL SALES.
WE DO THE SAME THING WITH TICKETMASTER, SO THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UM, RESPONDENTS, UH, COMMISSIONS TO THE CITY, TICKETMASTER AND TOBY ARE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.
WE DON'T JUST TAKE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE.
AND AS PATRIZIO HAS MENTIONED, IN THIS CASE, IT ACTUALLY BENEFITED THE TOBIN BECAUSE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY SHARED WITH US WERE ABOUT 1,000,040 1000 WHEN WE APPLIED THOSE HISTORICAL PERCENTAGES.
I MEAN, THOSE HISTORICAL SALES TO THEIR COMMISSION STRUCTURE ACTUALLY CAME UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AT 1.5.
AND WE DO HAVE THAT MATH BEHIND IT TO, TO SHARE IF WE, IF WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, UM, WE MUCH, I GUESS WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, THE TICKET MASTER GOING FROM A MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE NOW TO $2 MILLION IN REVENUE IN THE, IN THE PROPOSAL.
AND THEIR STRUCTURE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE COMMISSION STRUCTURE.
WHAT THEY PROPOSED THIS YEAR WAS, UM, SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT.
BASICALLY, INSTEAD OF COMMISSION STRUCTURE, THEY, THEY BASICALLY, FOR THEIR TAKE, I GUESS THEY'RE GONNA TAKE $3 AND 25 CENTS.
ANYTHING ABOVE THAT BASED ON THE TICKETS, WOULD GO TO THE CITY.
THAT'S WHY WHEN PATRICIO IS DESCRIBING THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE CITY IS RECEIVING, IT ESCALATES OVER THE PRICE OF THE TICKETS.
SO THEY'RE GONNA TAKE A BASE FEE AND THEN ANYTHING ABOVE THAT, THAT DIFFERENTIAL WILL BE COMING TO THE CITY AS FAR AS THE TICKET FEES.
AND WHAT ARE THEY TAKING RIGHT NOW?
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55%.SO IT'S TRANSITIONING FROM A PERCENTAGE TO A SET FEE? YEAH, IT'S A DIFFERENT MODEL THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THIS YEAR.
UM, AND THAT'S GONNA RESULT IN DIFF UM, ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO THE CITY, THE HIGHER THE TICKET PRICES ARE.
I DO HAVE, UH, HISTORICAL FIGURES IF YOU WANT THEM.
2013, UM, $819,000 2014, $904,000 TWENTY FIFTEEN, EIGHT HUNDRED AND SEVENTY 7,000 2016, 650,000.
AND I'M JUST ROUNDING THIS OFF, UH, IN 20 17, 1 0.5 MILLION.
WHAT HAPPENED IN 2017? 2017? WE HAD ROYAL RUMBLE, METALLICA, WE HAD SEVERAL CONCERTS, CONCERT AND BIG AND BIG EVENTS,
SO IT, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON OUR EVENT MIX FOR THAT PARTICULAR YEAR AT 2018.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE FIGURES, BUT, UM, WE HAD A WONDERFUL EVENT, THE FINAL FOUR, BUT IT WAS, UH, SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT WAS OUT OF THIS, OUT OF THIS CONTRACT.
SO NOT NECESSARILY IT, IT WENT THROUGH ANOTHER AGREEMENT.
AND, UH, IT JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION.
SO THIS REVENUE, UM, IS IT RESTRICTED IN ANY WAY, ERIC, OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE SPENT ON THE, UM, UM, IT, IT'S COLLECTED IN, IN OUR CONVENTION AND, UH, VISITORS, UH, FUND.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT RESTRICTED, IT'S NOT AS RESTRICTIVE AS, AS HOT TAX.
UM, BUT IT IS COLLECTED IN THAT FUND.
UH, WE GENERALLY USE ALL OF THAT REVENUE, WHETHER IT'S HOT RELATED OR FACILITY RELATED.
WE USE IT FOR THE ALAMO DOME, THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, AND THOSE TYPES OF OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE ITEMS. SO IT, IT'S NOT RESTRICTED, BUT GENERALLY WE USE IT FOR THAT.
BUT IF WE DECIDED TO DIVERT IT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE, UM, CAN WE, BEN, LET ME JUST DOUBLE, DOUBLE CHECK ME ON, ON NON HOT RELATED.
WE DO NOT HAVE THAT REVENUE STREAM PLEDGED TO ANY PARTICULAR DEBT PURPOSE.
UH, WHAT WE DO IS WE MANAGE THAT FUND FROM A SEPARATE, UH, PERSPECTIVE.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE ALAMO DOME, THE CONVENTION CENTER, THAT THOSE FUNDS OVERALL CAN, ALONG WITH THE HOT TAX, CAN SUSTAIN THEMSELVES.
MEANING THAT THEY CAN OPERATE THE BUILDINGS, BUT THAT WE CAN ALSO USE IT TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'LL BE MAKING OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
UH, BUT WE HAVE, I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN SELF-SUSTAINING UNTIL NOW AND WE'VE ONLY BEEN NETTING A MILLION FROM TICKETMASTER.
BUT THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING WE HAVEN'T, UH, COME FORWARD TO BRIEF YOU ALL ON YET, AS I MENTIONED, UH, BEFORE, WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN BOTH BUILDINGS, UH, PARTICULARLY THE ALAMO DOME AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
UH, SO WE'VE GOT FAIRLY LARGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON A FINANCING PLAN FOR IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO COME FORWARD, FUND THOSE.
UM, THE OTHER THING WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO, AS WE DO THAT PLANNING, AND WE RUN THIS FUND, WE'RE RUNNING PROFORMAS GOING OUT 20 OR 30 YEARS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING IN, UM, WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD, FLEXIBILITY OR CAPACITY SO THAT YOU ALL, THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT A FUTURE EXPANSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER SOMEWHERE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
I'M SURE THAT WILL COME UP, UH, AND BE AN ISSUE TO DO THE LAST ONE IN 2012.
WE STARTED WORKING ON THAT IN 2007.
SO IT TAKES A FAIRLY LONG RUNWAY GIVEN THE SIZE OF THAT KIND OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUGGLING SEVERAL THINGS THERE.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING THE BUILDINGS UP TO DATE.
UM, BUT PATRICIA HAS SHARED WITH US A FAIRLY LONG LIST OF IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE TO BOTH FACILITIES.
AND THEN BEYOND THAT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE AS WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE, THAT WE MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING, UM, SOME FLEXIBILITY OR SOME ABILITY TO AT LEAST TRY TO ADDRESS FUTURE BIGGER CAPITAL EXPANSION PLANS.
SO OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THE FUNDS CAN SUSTAIN THEMSELVES AND THAT WE, UH, CAN MAINTAIN SOME FLEXIBILITY GOING FORWARD.
AND ARE WE GETTING SOLAR ON THE ROOF? UH, WE ARE WORKING ON REPLACING THE ROOF.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT OPTION.
THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THAT.
WE CAN PROBABLY COME BACK AND, AND TALK WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT OPTION.
CARLOS, YOU SOUND LIKE YOU, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING, COUNCILMAN, WE ARE STUDYING THAT RIGHT NOW.
THE, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ROOF WAS A INSURANCE CLAIM.
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WE ARE STUDYING WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO ABOVE AND ABOVE THAT TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO THAT IF IT'S POSSIBLE AND WHAT THE COSTS ARE.BUT THAT UNDERSCORES THE NEED FOR REVENUE IN THE FUND TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS.
COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
UM, I THINK THAT THERE OBVIOUSLY WERE SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, BITS OF INFORMATION THAT HAVE COME FORWARD SINCE YESTERDAY.
UM, MAYBE IT'S A MATTER OF INTERPRETATION.
UM, BUT I THINK ONE THING I HAVE LEARNED IN THE LAST YEAR THAT, UH, TAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO LOOK AT SOMETHING, UH, IS NOT A BAD THING.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY, UH, BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT ONCE IN A WHILE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP, UH, THAT WE THINK NEEDS A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION.
I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES, WHICH IS WHY I SECONDED THE MOTION FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, POSTPONE THE, UH, FINAL DECISION ON THIS.
AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE.
I'M NOT CONVINCED YET OF WHAT THE BEST ROUTE WOULD BE.
UH, AND SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN EXPLANATION AND A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH UNDERSTANDING.
THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO SEE US CONTINUE THIS.
I'D ENCOURAGE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, UH, VOTE TO CONTINUE THIS.
I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL, UM, I'LL START OFF WITH, IF WE ADJUST THE NUMBERS, IF YOU WILL, ON THE SCORING, UM, IT GETS US TO ABOUT 75, EVEN IF, IF WE ADDED A LOCAL PREFERENCE, FOR INSTANCE.
UM, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, I, I GUESS I HAVEN'T HEARD THIS FROM STAFF.
DOES THIS NEW REVELATION CHANGE YOUR OPINION OR IS IT AT ALL, AND I'M ASKING YOU ALL BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT YOU GUYS LIVE AND BREATHE THIS SO YOU GUYS KNOW, UM, KNOW THIS AND STUDY THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY, IF YOU WILL.
BUT, SO IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE CHANGED IT AT ALL YOUR OPINION, EVEN IF WE'RE ADJUSTING, EVEN IF WE WERE ABLE TO ADJUST THE NUMBERS OR GO BACK.
AND THEN, UM, I ALSO WANT US TO ASK, AND I KNOW THAT WE WERE THROWING THIS AROUND, I JUST WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD OF SAYING, SO YESTERDAY WHEN WE WERE ASKING, WELL, CAN, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO, UM, GO BACK AND, AND APPLY OR EARMARK, I THINK WAS THE WORD THAT WAS USED ON THE DAES, SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING SPECIFICALLY TO, TO THE ARTS FUND.
WHAT DOES THAT DO AS FAR AS OUR FINE ARTS POLICY? LIKE, DIDN'T, DIDN'T THE COUNCIL AND I DON'T THINK I WAS ON, WELL, NO, I KNOW I WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL YET WHEN THIS WAS PASSED, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A SET LIMIT ON HOW MUCH FUNDING COULD GO INTO A, I I, I'M, I'M, I'M ASSUMING CERTAIN DEPART NOT DEPARTMENTS ARE CERTAIN PROGRAMS. SO I JUST DON'T WANNA MAKE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T VIOLATE OUR OWN ORDINANCE.
AND I THOUGHT I'D ASK THAT AS WELL, COUNCILMAN.
UM, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
WE HAVE AN ARTS FUNDING POLICY THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY OF 2018 THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING UNDER A THREE YEAR PROCESS THAT SETS FORMULAIC, UH, MAXIMUMS FOR ARTS AGENCIES TO RECEIVE THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UH, OF THE HOT TAX FUNDS.
SO, UM, THAT POLICY, I WOULD, I WOULD NOT WANT TO UNDO THAT POLICY, UH, WITH SOME OTHER CHANGE EITHER BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE SECOND YEAR OF A THREE YEAR FUNDING CYCLE AND WE, WE NEED TO DO SOME ASSESSMENT OF HOW THAT POLICY WORKS, UH, AND WHAT IMPACT IT MAKES ON THE ARTS IN SAN ANTONIO.
SO WOULD ANY OF ADJUSTING ANY OF THESE NUMBERS, LIKE HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THAT POLICY? DOES IT RELATE AT ALL TO US AS A IT WOULD, IT WOULD DEPEND WHAT WAS DECIDED TO DO WITH, WITH THE FUNDS.
UH, IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHETHER THE FUNDS WERE DETERMINED TO BE PUT INTO THAT PROCESS.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF GOING DOWN THE LINE AND FOLLOWING THE SAME, IT, IT, IT WOULD MEAN THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE AGENCIES FUNDED AT A HIGHER LEVEL.
IT WOULD NOT IMPACT THE SYMPHONY.
THEY'RE ALREADY AT MAX LEVEL IN, IN CASE ANYBODY'S ASKING THAT QUESTION.
UM, BUT IF, IF IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT WAS GONNA BE USED IN A DIFFERENT MANNER, UH, AND OUTSIDE OF THAT FUNDING PROCESS, PERHAPS, UH, COULD BE DETERMINED THROUGH THE, UH, PERFORMING ARTS PLAN THAT I'LL BE DOING AS A RESULT OF THE BUDGETS AT WORK SESSIONS WHERE I SAID THAT THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA DO A PERFORMING ARTS STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, THAT'S REALLY UP IN THE AIR AND WOULD BE A POLICY DECISION FOR COUNCIL.
SO ERICA, SOMETHING HE WANTS TO ADD TO, TO THAT.
COUNCIL, I WAS JUST GONNA ADD COUNCILWOMAN THAT
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I THINK THAT'S WHAT CARLOS MEANT BY IF WE PURSUE THAT, WE PROBABLY NEED 30 DAYS IN ORDER TO COORDINATE WITH DEBBIE AND HER TEAM SO THAT WHEN WE BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE COUNCIL, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE POLICIES.AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY THEN, DEBBIE, IT SOUNDS LIKE EVEN IF WE WANTED TO SUPPORT AT A HIGHER LEVEL, LET'S SAY THE, UM, THE SYMPHONY OR SOMEONE THAT'S ALREADY AT THEIR LIMIT, WE CAN'T, UNTIL WE MAKE A CHANGE TO THAT POLICY, EVEN IF WE WANTED TO SUPPORT THIS AS, AS PROPOSED BY TOBY TODAY, UH, IT, IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO IMPACT THE ARTS FUNDING POLICY.
UH, IT COULD BE A SEPARATE POLICY FOR THOSE FUNDS.
IT WOULD JUST, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS, UH, ON HOW THAT WOULD LOOK BECAUSE THIS IS RELATIVELY A NEW CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING.
AND SO, AND I GUESS, UM, I WAS GONNA USE A POKER EXAMPLE, BUT THEN I DON'T PLACE POKER, SO THEN I FIGURED I'D STICK TO SOMETHING THAT I KIND OF KNOW.
AND SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR TO FAIL A CHILD IF, IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS AT FAULT, RIGHT? SO IF THE ADULTS DIDN'T FI DIDN'T FIX THE RUBRIC FOR THE GRADING PROCESS, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IF THE RUBRIC WAS INCORRECT IN THE FIRST PLACE, THAT WE COULD FAIL A CHILD OR THAT WE COULD PUNISH A CHILD.
UM, AND SO THAT RUBRIC OR GRADING PROCESS WOULD BE CORRECTED AND APPLY GOING FORWARD.
AND SO I WANT TO ALSO REMIND MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT ALTHOUGH THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE, YOU KNOW, TO, UM, TO PUSH THIS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO STAY FAIR TO THE PROCESS AND THAT WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW OUTSIDE INFLUENCE, ESPECIALLY, UH, IF OUR STAFF HAS ALREADY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO, UM, TO JADE THE RECOMMENDATION AT HAND.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN WE SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T TAKE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THIS IS AT JUST IN GENERAL.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE THE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELDS.
THEY HAVE MULTIPLE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THEIR AREAS, AND WE'RE MERELY PUBLIC SERVANTS.
WE'RE APPOINTED TWO YEARS AT A TIME.
WE'RE EXPECTED TO LEARN A WHOLE LOT IN A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
AND, UM, WE SHOULD HAVE NO DOUBT THAT IT'S OUR JOB TO AFFECT POLICY LEVEL DECISIONS, NOT PROCEDURAL CHANGES.
AND I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A PROCE.
I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UM, PUNISH SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE EVERYTHING THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO.
UM, AND I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING OUR, UM, OUR QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GOING BACK AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE TILL 10:00 PM PLUS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, WHAT THESE CHANGES WOULD MEAN.
AND I THINK, UH, IT STILL RESULTS IN LESS POINTS EVEN IF WE DID GO BACK AND, AND ADJUST LOCAL PREFERENCE, WHICH WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A FORMAL VOTE ON IT.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I'M STILL IN FULL SUPPORT OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.
UM, I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT FROM COUNCILWOMAN GARCIA THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UH, PROCESS ORIENTED.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT, UH, SLIDE NUMBER SEVEN THERE, UH, EVEN IF, UH, THE POINTS WERE ADJUSTED, LET'S SAY FOR THE PRICE, UH, THERE'S STILL OTHER CATEGORIES HERE THAT FAR OUTWEIGH IN THE POINT DIFFERENTIAL, IT STILL DOES NOT GET UP TO THAT POINT DIFFERENTIAL.
SO EVEN IF WE DELAY THIS, I, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WOULD GET TO A DIFFERENT ANSWER.
THE ANSWER IS RIGHT HERE ON THE SCORE SHEET.
AND I REALIZE THAT IT IS UP TO THE COUNCIL.
WE, WE CAN FOLLOW YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR VOTE AGAINST THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE IT COMES DOWN TO THE PROCESS.
WHAT ARE WE DOING TO THE PROCESS? ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO THIS, UM, THE WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT IN BY THE VENDORS AND PUTTING THESE PROPOSALS TOGETHER, AND THEY ARE COMPLICATED.
THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO PUT TOGETHER AND ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS AS CLEARLY AS THEY CAN.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THE PROCESS ON HOW YOU STRUCTURE THESE THINGS, HOW YOU EXPLAIN THEM AND HOW THEY'RE INTERPRETED.
IN FACT, THEY GET AN OP, THEY GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THIS AS WELL.
THIS WENT THROUGH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE BLIND WITHOUT ANY COMPANIES BEING LISTED ON THAT.
AND IT WENT THROUGH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THE WANTS AND DESIRES OF SUPPORTING THE TOBIN, BUT WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY ALSO.
AND JUST THIS PROPOSAL OF $2 MILLION, DO WE, YOU KNOW, SET SOMETHING ASIDE FOR THE TOBIN OUTTA THIS $2 MILLION IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE ALREADY SUPPORTING HIM ON? UM, THAT'S,
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THAT'S POSSIBLE.BUT THAT MONEY HAS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR AND PRIORITIZED ON WHAT THE REAL NEEDS ARE.
IS IT FACILITY UPGRADES, AS WAS AS BEN WAS TALKING ABOUT? OR IS IT SUPPORTING THE TOBIN OR IS IT SUPPORTING OTHER ARTS AND, UM, PROGRAMS ACROSS THE CITY? THAT IS A SEPARATE PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO DETERMINE UP HERE ON THIS COUNCIL.
SO THIS PROPOSAL, THIS PROCESS THROUGH WHICH A LOT OF MAN HOURS ARE PUT INTO BY A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, BOTH ON THE PROPOSAL SIDE AND PUTTING IT TOGETHER AND ON THE, UM, EVALUATION SIDE AND COMING UP WITH THIS SCORING MATRIX, UH, IT'S VERY CLEAR ON WHO THE, WHO THE WINNER WAS.
AND IF WE EVEN GO BACK AND AGAIN, GO BACK AND ADJUST A COUPLE OF THESE SCORES, EVEN IF YOU MAX 'EM OUT, YOU STILL CAN'T GET THERE.
AND I, I'VE SAID THIS TIME AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M A PROCESS TYPE OF GUY, AND WHEN YOU VIOLATE THAT PROCESS, YOU'RE REALLY STEPPING OUT THERE TO SHOW THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL CAN GO AROUND THE PROCESS.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT DISCOURAGES VENDORS AND CONTRACTORS FROM EVEN PUTTING IN A PROPOSAL TO THIS CITY KNOWING THAT THEY, THEY'RE A WINNER, BUT THE COUNCIL CAN TURN AROUND AND SAY, OH WAIT, WE DON'T LIKE THAT CONTRACTOR OR THAT PROPOSAL, LET'S AWARD IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE THAT IS WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY.
BUT THAT ALSO SENDS A BAD SIGNAL TO BUSINESSES ON MAKING PROPOSALS THAT GO THROUGH A FAIR PROCESS AND GETTING A WINNING BID, AND IT GETS OVERTURNED BY THIS COUNCIL.
SO I HOPE THIS COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THAT, 'CAUSE WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST ALREADY TO THE DISMAY AND DISCOURAGEMENT OF COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT PUT TOGETHER REALLY GOOD PROPOSALS.
AND EITHER WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE PROCESS OR NOT FOLLOW THE PROCESS, SEND POSITIVE SIGNALS TO INDUSTRY OR NEGATIVE SIN, UH, SIGNALS TO INDUSTRY.
SO IT'S REALLY UP TO THIS COUNCIL, I, I, FOR ONE, WANNA VOTE ON THIS TODAY AND GET IT DONE, AND LET'S GET THIS, GET THIS, UH, R F P AND WHOLE CONTRACTING PROCESSES TOGETHER AND APPROVED.
THAT'S ALL I, I HAVE TO SAY, COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, CARLOS, CAN, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW MUCH MONEY THE TOBIN GETS AND HAS RECEIVED? I, YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT NUMBERS.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TOBIN CENTER AND THE OPERATIONS OF THE TOBIN CENTER.
SO THE VOTERS IN, UH, MAY OF 2008, UM, VOTED TO APPROVE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, THE TOBIN CENTER.
UH, THE CITY FOR ITS PART CONTRIBUTED, UH, THE MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM AS WELL AS THE, UH, SS A F D, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET VALUED AT $41 MILLION.
UM, IN, UH, 2012, THE CITY APPROPRIATED $500,000 A YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS, UH, TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS OF THE TOBIN.
AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER OF, OF 2016, THE CITY APPROPRIATED $5 MILLION, UH, TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARKING FACILITY, THE PARKING GARAGE.
UH, SO ALL TOTAL ABOUT $148.5 MILLION SINCE, UH, 2008.
THAT, THAT'S MY QUESTION, MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS I JUST WANT TO, UM, POSE TO YOU.
I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THIS.
UM, TO BE CLEAR, ARE WE LOOKING AT A FIVE OR A 10 YEAR CONTRACT? IT'S A FIVE YEAR, UH, TERM WITH A FIVE YEAR RENEWAL.
SO IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, UM, AND WE HAVE THE OPTION OF EXTENDING IT ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS.
IS THAT CITY OPTION OR IS THAT THE CON UH, CITY OPTION.
I, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF POINTS MADE.
UM, SOME OF WHICH I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH, UH, THAT AREN'T IMPACTED I DON'T THINK, BY THE SELECTION OF THE VENDOR.
ONE IS THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO FIND, UM, NEW WAYS, ADDITIONAL WAYS TO SUPPORT THE ARTS COMMUNITY.
UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY, UH, THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENCE IN REVENUE.
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OF THAT FACT, WE NEED TO HEAR SOME OPTIONS ON HOW WE CAN CARVE OUT REVENUE FROM TICKETING SERVICES TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL ARTS FUNDING, UH, THROUGH OUR FORMULAS.BUT ALSO KNOWING THAT THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION ABOUT TICKETING REALLY BEGAN BECAUSE WE, UH, WELL, BECAUSE THE CONTRACT NEEDED TO BE RENEWED, BUT ALSO WE WANT TO FIND NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR LEGACY, UH, CLASSICAL ARTS, BUT ALSO, UH, THE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN GENERAL.
THE FACILITIES, UM, NEEDS SUPPORT.
THE TOBIN BEING ONE OF 'EM, IT'S NOT A CITY OWNED FACILITY, BUT OUR COMMUNITY, UH, SUPPORTS THE USE OF THE FACILITY.
SO I DON'T WANNA MAKE THE DISTINCTION THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE CITY OWNED DOESN'T MEAN THE DOLLARS FLOWING INTO THE TOBIN AREN'T IMPORTANT.
THEY'RE GONNA COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
AND, UM, IF THEY, UH, AND IF IT CAN BE PART OF A NEW REVENUE STREAM, UH, THAT WE CREATE, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ADDED BONUS.
UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION I HAVE THOUGH, WHEN LOOKING AT, AT, UH, THE, THE SCORING IS CAN THEY PERFORM, THE TICKETING SERVICE IS SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GENERATE REVENUE AND TO GET BUTTS IN SEATS TO WATCH THESE PERFORMANCES, TO, UH, BE ABLE TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR US TO POUR INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, WHETHER THAT'S SYMPHONY, THE BALLET, OR ANY NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE SUPPORT THROUGH OUR ARTS FUNDS.
SO I TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY, UM, THE SCORING.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CALLING BALLS AND STRIKES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICY IS, IS, IS BEING UPHELD, UH, BUT THAT ALSO IT'S NOT BEING UNDULY INFLUENCED.
UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT CO COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ROHA GARCIA SAID.
I DON'T AGREE THOUGH THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
UH, BUT WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ROLE HERE IS THAT WE'RE CALLING BALLS AND STRIKES.
IF THERE'S A POLICY THAT HASN'T BEEN FOLLOWED, WE NEED TO CALL IT OUT.
IF THERE IS A POLICY THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO ARTICULATE THAT MM-HMM.
BUT AS IT RELATES TO, UH, THESE TWO CONTRACTS OR THESE TWO PROPOSALS, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE WAY THE R F P IS WRITTEN, IT'S ALMOST AS IF THE RESULTS WE'RE TRYING TO COMPARE, UH, YOU KNOW, AN APPLE AND AN ORANGE.
UH, ONE IS A NON-PROFIT, ONE IS A PROFIT, UH, A FOR-PROFIT, THE NON-PROFIT IS ACTUALLY INVESTING INTO COMMUNITY ASSETS.
UH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT IN FUTURE CONTRACTS WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR ECONOMICALLY.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE DO IT UNDER THIS.
AND, AND AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, THEY, THEY FOLLOWED THE RULES.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN, UH, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT FACILITIES, THE REVENUE THAT'S NEEDED TO UPKEEP, UH, ALL THE CITY OWNED FACILITIES.
UH, BEN, IS ANY OF THIS REVENUE BONDED? UH, NO SIR.
WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT OUTSTANDING RELATED TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.
ANOTHER PR ROUGHLY $40 MILLION ASSOCIATED WITH THE ALAMO DOME.
UH, THE ALAMO DOME PIECE IS A SELF-SUPPORTING PIECE COMING OFF THE DOME.
THE CONVENTION CENTER, HALF A BILLION IS A, A, WHAT WE CALL A GENERAL APPROPRIATION PLEDGE, MEANING WE USE ANY RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY.
HAVING SAID THAT, WHAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE 2012 IS WE USE HOT TAXES AND THIS FUND TO PAY FOR THAT DEBT.
THAT DEBT WILL ASCEND OVER TIME.
IT WILL, IT WILL INCREASE EVERY YEAR BECAUSE IT'S FOLLOWING THE GROWTH IN THE, IN THE HOT TAX.
SO WHILE IT'S NOT PLEDGED DIRECTLY, WE TAKE THIS ENTIRE FUND AND ALL OF THEIR REVENUES.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE USED TO MANAGE IT.
THE COUNCIL DID IN, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2012, PASS A RESOLUTION THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WOULD MANAGE THE HOT TAX.
YOU RECALL THAT SOMETIMES WE TALK ABOUT THE HOT TAX AND WE TAKE OFF THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT AND THERE'S A NET TAX.
IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THIS PRO FORMA, HOW WE WOULD UPDATE IT EVERY YEAR.
HOW WE WOULD USE THAT TO MANAGE, TO ENSURE NOT ONLY THAT WE COULD COVER THE DEBT SERVICE, BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT TO THE FACILITIES.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO VISIT SAN ANTONIO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR ARTS AGENCIES.
SO WE MANAGE THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
THERE'S NOT A DIRECT PLEDGE, BUT WE MANAGE IT INTERNALLY TO ENSURE THAT IT'S SELF-SUSTAINING.
WELL YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, I'M LOATHED TO GET INVOLVED IN THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND AS A MAYOR.
UM, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, ERIC OR CARLOS, UM, THERE ARE OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE NOT JUST WITHIN THE STUDY'S PURVIEW, SOME OF THEM OWNED BY THE COUNTY, SOME OF 'EM OWNED BY SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND SO FORTH.
UH, WHAT'S THE TICKETING SERVICES SERVICE THAT IS CURRENTLY USED BY THE COUNTY, SUCH AS THE FREEMAN AND AT AND T CENTER? UH, I UNDERSTAND THE AT AND T CENTER SPECIFICALLY AND DOES IT FREEMAN AS WELL? BOTH, UH, USE AT USE TICKETMASTER? THEY BOTH USE TICKETMASTER? YES, SIR.
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FIELD, UH, SPURS USE TICKETMASTER AS WELL.UM, I'M GOING TO SAY THREE WORDS THAT NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR IN ASSOCIATION WITH PROCUREMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY RADIOS, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A COMPELLING REASON FOR US TO DELAY TODAY.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEING RAISED ABOUT REVENUE STREAMS THAT COULD BE CREATED IF THE R F P WAS WRITTEN DIFFERENTLY.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT WE ARE, WE GET THIS DONE.
WE, UH, EXECUTE A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, BUT WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY, UH, AS WELL AS OTHER VENUES IN THE AREA TO WRITE A U F R F P TOGETHER THAT WOULD CAPITALIZE ON THE KIND OF, UH, PROPOSAL THAT A, A SERVICE LIKE TOBY IS OFFERING.
AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO BE WRITTEN FOR TOBY, BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT ANYBODY FOR-PROFIT OR NON-PROFIT WOULD HAVE TO CREATE THAT KIND OF REVENUE OPPORTUNITY TO SER TO SERVE THE FACILITIES THAT WE OWN.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WANT TO BE VERY CERTAIN THAT IF WE DO, UH, APPROVE THE CONTRACT TODAY, UH, THAT WE ARE PUTTING ON THE RECORD THAT WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A NEW REVENUE SOURCE, UH, OUT OF THIS CONTRACT FOR OUR ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S TO THE BENEFIT OF THE FACILITIES, BUT ALSO TO THE COMPANIES AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE THEM.
UH, THE SYMPHONY, THE BALLET, THE OPERA, UH, AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF OUR CULT TO ART, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, IF WE'RE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT, THEN I'M COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD IF WE NEED TO WAIT TO INK THAT BEFORE, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AS WELL.
BUT CAN SOMEBODY SPEAK TO THAT ON ALL OF IT? ERIC? UH, MAYOR, I WAS WRITING IT DOWN.
SO, UH, WE, WE WILL, UM, WE WILL CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP WITH THE SPURS ORGANIZATION AND THE COUNTY TO DEVELOP, UH, TO, TO INITIAL HAVE THAT INITIAL CONVERSATION ABOUT POTENTIAL JOINT CONTRACTING OPPORTUNITIES WHERE, UM, REGARDLESS OF THE, UM, OF THE PROVIDER PROFIT OR NO, OR NONPROFIT, THAT IT'D BE STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT, UM, BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY, UH, LIKE YOU DESCRIBED.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT THE STAFF WORKED ON A COUPLE OF OPTIONS LAST NIGHT, UH, ABOUT TAKING SOME OF THIS ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND DIRECTING IT.
I WOULD ASK FOR ADDITIONAL TIME BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVEN'T DONE IS WE HAVEN'T COORDINATED THAT WITH ARTS AND CULTURAL AND DEBBIE SITTER.
UM, AND I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN BE BACK WITHIN 30 DAYS WITH SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT ALLOCATION ADJUSTMENT, UH, AND MOVE FORWARD, UH, IN FISCAL YEAR 2020.
UM, AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THE THE, THE TIME YOU NEED IS TO DEVELOP THE, THE ART, UM, STRATEGY WITH THE REVENUE THAT WOULD BE PRODUCED ON A CONTRACT THAT WE WOULD APPROVE TODAY? YES.
AND, AND, AND I THINK WE CAN HAVE IT HERE BY, UH, UH, OCTOBER 31ST AS A COUNCIL DATE.
SO WE'D HAVE IT BEFORE OCTOBER 31ST.
AND, AND MAYBE WE CAN, UM, WELL, OBVIOUSLY DEBBIE WILL BE AT THE TABLE, UH, IN THAT DISCUSSION, BUT, UM, IT SHOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR STRATEGY.
AND THAT'LL BRING, BE BROUGHT TO COUNSEL, FULL COUNSEL.
THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A DELAY OF THIS VOTE, UH, UNTIL THE NEXT AVAILABLE COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, IN ADDITION TO EXTENDING, UH, THE EXISTING CONTRACT WITH TICKETMASTER, UM, THAT IS NOT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THERE ISN'T A MOTION FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, SO WE'LL TAKE UP THIS MOTION FIRST.
IF THAT MOTION UH, FAILS, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION.
NOW WE'LL TAKE UP, UM, OH, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS, UH, EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT, UH, AS WELL AS THE, UM, BRINGING TO COUNCIL ON OUR FUNDING STRATEGY.
ITEM 27 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A E 16 RIDER AGREEMENT WITH CARBON FREE CHEMICALS S P E ONE L L C, AND RECOMMENDING CARBON FREE CHEMICALS S P E ONE L L C FOR PARTICIPATION
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IN C P S ENERGIES, E 16 ECONOMIC INCENTIVE RATE WRITER PROGRAM.I WANTED TO, UH, PULL THIS ITEM AND VOTE ON THIS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I SEE SOME, UH, GREAT BENEFITS FROM THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I WENT TO A GRAND OPENING AT THE TIME IT WAS CALLED SKY MINES, UH, TO EXTRACT HARMFUL EMISSIONS FROM ONE OF OUR QUARRIES CEMENT PLANTS THERE IN DISTRICT 10 CAPITAL AGGREGATES.
AND, UM, SOUNDED LIKE A GREAT IDEA, GREAT GRAND OPENING.
EVERYTHING WORKED OUT JUST AWESOME.
BUT GUESS WHAT? THEY DIDN'T MAKE, THEY DIDN'T GET ENOUGH CUSTOMERS.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME TO, TO MY ATTENTION WAS THEY COULDN'T AFFORD THE ELECTRICITY.
UH, THEY CONSUME A LOT OF ELECTRICITY TO MAKE THIS THING WORK, AND THE COMPANY WENT BANKRUPT.
WELL, ANOTHER COMPANY HAS COME IN AND, UH, UH, I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, ALEX, YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS.
I'D LIKE EVERYBODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REPLICATE ACROSS THIS WHOLE REGION BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF CEMENT PLANTS AND IT COULD ALSO APPLY TO OUR, UM, POWER PLANTS AS WELL.
SO, ALEX, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND GIVE US A QUICK PRESENTATION ON THAT.
I'LL START OFF BY PROVIDING SOME, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE COMPANY, MAYBE CARBON FREE.
LIKE THE COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED, CARBON FREE USES A PROCESS CALLED SKY MINE TO CAPTURE CHEMICALS EMITTED INTO THE AIR DURING THE CEMENT MANUFACTURING PROCESS.
CARBON FREE USES THIS PROCESS HERE LOCALLY AT CAP CAPITAL AGGREGATES THE CEMENT PLANT THAT IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT 10.
AN E 16 RIDER IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THROUGH WHICH C P S ENERGY PROVIDES A DISCOUNTED RATE WHEN A PROJECT ADDS 10 MEGAWATTS OR MORE OF DEMAND.
IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THIS DISCOUNT, PROJECTS MUST ALSO AGREE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH MAY INCLUDE JOB CREATION, CAPITAL INVESTMENT, AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT.
BACK IN 2014, THE CITY AND SCION ENTERED INTO AN E 16 AGREEMENT THROUGH WHICH SCION, UM, THE COMPANY, THE COMPANY THAT AT THAT POINT OPERATED THE SKYLINE, THEY AGREED TO CREATE 35 NEW FULL-TIME JOBS ALL PAYING OVER $50,000 ANNUALLY.
THEY AGREED TO AN INVESTMENT OF A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS LOCAL BUSINESS CONTRACTING, UM, ONCE THE PLANT WAS IN OPERATION AND A WORKFORCE TRAINING AGREEMENT WITH ALAMO COLLEGES.
UNFORTUNATELY, IN 2016, CAPITAL AGGREGATES IDLED THE PLANT, WHICH ALSO CAUSED SCION TO CEASE OPERATIONS.
THE CITY TERMINATED THE E 16 AGREEMENT AND CARBON FREE FORECLOSED ON SCION SINCE 2017.
HOWEVER, CARBON FREE HAS RESUMED SKY MINE OPERATIONS AND INCREASED ITS ENERGY DEMAND, WHICH IS WHY CARBON FREE IS NOW REQUESTING THIS E 16 RIDER AGREEMENT BASED ON CARBON FREEZE ANTICIPATED ENERGY DEMAND.
C P S ENERGY IS WILLING TO PROVIDE A 10% DISCOUNT FOR TWO YEARS.
HOWEVER, THIS COULD INCREASE IF CARBON FREE SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASES ITS DEMAND ABOVE THE 10 MEGAWATTS THAT'S PROJECTED RIGHT NOW IN RETURN, CARBON FREE HAS AGREED TO RETAIN 67 FULL-TIME JOBS, CREATE AN ADDITIONAL NINE JOBS, AND HIRE AT LEAST TWO PAID INTERNS EVERY YEAR.
CARBON FREE WOULD RECEIVE THIS BENEFIT FOR TWO YEARS.
HOWEVER, THE AGREEMENT ALSO INCLUDES A TWO YEAR RECAPTURE PROVISION SHOULD THEY FAIL TO MEET THE JOB CREATION AND INTERNSHIP REQUIREMENTS.
OVER THE FOUR YEAR TERM, THE CITY IS PROJECTED TO RECEIVE 1.1 MILLION IN C P SS REVENUE FROM THIS PROJECT, ALONG WITH APPROXIMATELY $77,000 IN SALES TAXES ASSOCIATED WITH THE JOBS THAT ARE RETAINED AND CREATED.
THE C P S FIGURE I JUST MENTIONED ALREADY DEDUCTS THE DI THE DISCOUNT TO THE COMPANY, UM, THAT THEY'LL BE RECEIVING, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $18,000 A YEAR.
MR. MARTIN KEITHLEY, THE C E O OF CARBON FREE WAS HERE EARLIER.
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AND HAD TO LEAVE, BUT HE WANTED TO SHARE HIS APPRECIATION FOR THE SUPPORT FOR HIS COMPANY HERE, UM, AND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY'RE DEPLOYING IN OUR COMMUNITY.ALEX, DO YOU HAVE ANY DETAIL ON HOW MUCH CLEANUP OF THE, UH, UH, EXHAUST AND WHAT HAVE YOU THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE PLANT? DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? WE DO HAVE SOME STATISTICS THAT THE COMPANY HAS SHARED WITH US.
AMY CONTRERAS WORKED ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING RIGHT NOW, IT CAPTURES 50,000 MEGA, UH, METRIC TONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE, WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT OF 40,000 CARS OFF THE ROAD.
SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT STORY HERE.
AND, AND AGAIN, I, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL AIR QUALITY AROUND TOWN.
AND, UH, PEOPLE ARE REALLY WANTING THIS.
SO I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND HOPE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IS, AND ALSO TO LOOK AT WHERE ELSE WE CAN PLACE THESE PLANTS AROUND OUR REGION TO FURTHER HELP WITH OUR AIR QUALITY.
SO, UH, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND SIR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THIS SECOND.
UH, ALEX, ON SLIDE SEVEN, UH, THERE'S A REVENUE SALES TAX FROM EMPLOYEE SALARIES.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN? WE USE A MODEL TO CALCULATE HOW MUCH IN SALES TAX WE COULD POTENTIALLY GAIN OR, OR ASSESS, UM, BASED ON THE, THE SALARIES, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF A PERSON'S SALARY CAN BASICALLY BE ATTRIBUTED THAT, THAT THEY'LL SPEND IN THE, IN THE CITY.
AND, UM, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, ARE ANY OF THE OTHER CEMENT PLANTS OR IS, UH, CARBON FREE LOOKING AT EXPANDING TO ANY OF THE OTHER CEMENT PLANTS IN THE AREA? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SPECIFICALLY HERE.
THEY DID ALREADY MENTION TO US EXPANSION OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING, UM, IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AND, UH, FOREIGN IN, IN JAPAN AND IN MEXICO.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THE INVESTMENT THAT THEY'VE MADE SO FAR IS ABOUT $200 MILLION.
IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE PROCESS.
SO AS THEY GROW AND EXPAND AND MAKE REVENUES, THEN THEY CAN LOOK TO FURTHER EXPAND IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND, UM, SO 50,000 MEGATONS OF C O TWO.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE DOUG HERE TOO, TO TELL US HOW THAT, UH, FACTOR, YOU KNOW, OFFSETS SOME OF OUR OWN, UH, EMISSION INVENTORY HERE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR GREENHOUSE GASES.
SO, UM, THAT WILL HELP US, I THINK, MEET OUR CARBON NEUTRALITY GOALS EVENTUALLY.
UM, SO THANK YOU COUNCILMAN PERRY FOR, FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
AND YEAH, THIS IS CERTAINLY A PRO BUSINESS, PRO ENVIRONMENT WIN-WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AMY AND ALEX FOR YOUR GREAT WORK ON THIS.
AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSCORE ON THE RECORD, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY'S GREAT WORDS ON AIR QUALITY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, UH, AND MY ENVIRONMENTAL INITIATIVES TO OUR ECONOMY AND VICE VERSA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MOVING TO APPROVE COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.
ABSOLUTELY, SIR, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 27.
AND, AND IT, IT'S A JOB STEAL TOO, SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
UM, THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS ON OUR BUSINESS PORTION FOR TODAY.
UM, DO WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER'S REPORT? YES, SIR.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT, UH, UH, COMING UP, UH, WE WILL BE HAVING NATIONAL NIGHT OUT FOR 30 YEARS.
FOR OVER 30 YEARS, NEIGHBORHOODS AND RESIDENTS FROM ACROSS ACROSS SAN ANTONIO HAVE BEEN COMING TOGETHER TO TAKE PART IN NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
UM, IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST, UH, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, UH, PROGRAMS, UM, HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.
IT'S A TESTAMENT REALLY, TO THE STRONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND OUR, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS YEAR'S EVENT, IT WILL BE ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1ST, THERE ARE OVER 500 ORGANIZATIONS AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND RESIDENTS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO TAKE PART IN, UH, THE COMMUNITY BUILDING FESTIVITIES OF THE NIGHT.
UM, WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT THE SPIRIT OF THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS EMBODIED THROUGHOUT EVERYTHING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES, BUT ALSO REALLY THROUGH THE VOLUNTEERS AND POLICING PROGRAM, WHICH PROVIDE CRITICAL ASSISTANCE TO, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I WANTED TO ENCOURAGE, UH, AND REMIND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE UPCOMING EVENT, AND IF YOU, UH, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED SIGNS, PLEASE LET MY OFFICE KNOW, OR CHIEF MCMANUS OFFICE KNOW, AND, UH, WE WILL MAKE SURE WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THAT OVER THE NEXT MONTH.
ALRIGHT, UM, OUR A SESSION NOW STANDS, UH, ADJOURNED.
WE WILL RECONVENE AT 1:00 PM 1:00 PM SHARP,
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UH, FOR OUR SPECIAL WORK SESSION ON THE PAID SICK LEAVE ORDINANCE.AND THAT'LL FOLLOW, UH, THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY OUR ZONING AGENDA AT 2:00 PM I KNOW.
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, IF YOU CAN PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE MEETING UNDERWAY.
TIME IS 3:35 PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL ZONING AGENDA.
WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS TO GET THROUGH AND MANY CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON, ON ITEMS SCHEDULED.
UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO, UH, DO OUR BEST TO, UH, GET THIS GOING EFFICIENTLY.
LET ME READ THE ITEMS THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, AND THEN I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM WHICH THEY WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEMS SCHEDULED FOR INDIVIDUALS ZONING CONSIDERATION ARE 37 A, 37 B P ONE Z, ONE Z SEVEN Z NINE Z 15, Z 22, AND Z 23.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? IF THERE ARE NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA.
THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR THOSE I READ.
UM, WE DO HAVE CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT, SO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THOSE IN ORDER AND THEN I'LL CALL THOSE NAMES.
UM, CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT ARE COMING FOR P THREE AND Z 25, Z FIVE, Z 14, Z 24.
AND JACK FINGER JACK, COME ON UP.
WELL, MAYOR BERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL, I AM THE JACK FINGER
WHENEVER THERE'S A ZONING SESSION, YOU GUYS, YOU CAN EXPECT ME TO BE AROUND AND OFFER A FEW, UH, CHOICE COMMENTS ON 'EM ANYWAY, BY THE NUMBERS.
UH, Z TWO, THIS IS IN DISTRICT ONE, MR. TINO'S DISTRICT.
I DON'T SEE HIM SITTING AT HIS SEAT ANYWHERE THERE, BUT, UH, FOR ANYONE INTERESTED, YOU'LL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT, UH, THERE IS AN ATTEMPT TO TO SHOEHORN ABOUT 10 RESIDENTIAL UNITS INTO A LITTLE LOT.
RIGHT, RIGHT THERE ON EAST EVERGREEN IN NEAR MCCULL AVENUE.
AND JUST TO SHOW YOU THE OPPOSITION TO THIS, UH, THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED TO THIS.
AND AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE SPOKE OUT AGAINST IT AT THE ZONING SESSION, THE ZONING COMMISSION SESSION, UH, RECENTLY, WHEN YOU'RE LUCKY TO GET JUST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT.
I THINK IT, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THIS, MAY WANNA SAY NO TO IT ELSEWHERE ON THE AGENDA IN, UH, MS. GONZALEZ DISTRICT, SPEAKING OF, UH, SHOEHORNING, UH, UNITS INTO A LITTLE AREA, THERE'S AN ATTEMPT TO PUT FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN A LITTLE PLACE ON EAST LA CHAPPELLE STREET.
WELL, AT LEAST ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DIDN'T LIKE IT.
THE, THE LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OPPOSED THAT.
MA MS. GONZALEZ, LIKEWISE, IN YOUR DISTRICT Z 15 IS, HAS A RED FLAG.
THE, UH, THE ZONING COMMISSION THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA TO PUT A USED CAR LOT IN THERE.
MAYBE THEY, THEY'RE BEGINNING TO THINK THAT THERE'S JUST MANY TOO MANY USED CAR LOTS AROUND.
DO, DO YOU THINK, UH, ELSEWHERE ON THIS PART OF THE AGENDA AND, UH, MR. PALAZ, YOUR DISTRICT, UH, Z 25, THERE IS AN ATTEMPT TO PUT A MULTIFAMILY, UH, UH, PROJECT IN THE AREA OF 75 80 LUKI BOULEVARD.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THAT.
THEY THINK IT'S, MAYBE IT'S JUST A BIT TOO DENSE.
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MANY AS 300 UNITS ARE BEING PLACED THERE, SIR.AND SOME NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE DIDN'T THINK THOUGHT SO LITTLE OF IT THAT AS MANY AS NINE, NINE PEOPLE SPOKE OUT AGAINST IT AT THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETING WHEN YOU, LIKE I SAY, WHEN YOU'RE LUCKY TO GET ONE OR TWO TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT.
AND, UM, MS. SANDOVAL'S DISTRICT I, ITEM NUMBER 23, THE ZONING STAFF THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD IDEA TO, TO, UH, ATTEMPT TO PUT RESIDENTIAL MIXED AREA BECAUSE OF THE ADVERSE IMPACTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. FINGER.
MR. KELLY, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY ROBERT LENTZ.
AND, UH, COUNCIL PERSONS AND STAFF APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME BRIEF PREPARED REMARKS TODAY.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE CROWN RIDGE OF TEXAS OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND OUT IN NORTHWEST SAN ANTONIO, UH, ALONG I 10 WEST, ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CARTERS IN THE UNITED STATES.
CROWN RIDGE WAS FORMED IN THE EARLY 1980S, UH, AND INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 750 HOMES, APARTMENT COMPLEXES, A SCHOOL, TWO CHURCHES, OFFICE BUILDINGS, AND RETAIL BUSINESSES.
AS I'M SURE MANY OF YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE VISITED THE REALM OR SIX FLAG FIESTA, TEXAS, OR THE SHOPS AT LOCK AND TERRA DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL.
IN THE LAST DECADE, THE GROWTHS INCLUDED A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES FROM INSIDE LOOP 1604, ALL THE WAY OUT TO LEON SPRINGS ALONG THE I 10 CORRIDOR, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF NEW COMPLEXES HAVE BEEN BUILT ALONG BABCOCK ROAD NORTH OF LOOP 1604.
CURRENTLY WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF CROWN RIDGE ARE TWO OPERATING APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITH A THIRD WELL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THESE THREE COMPLEXES TOTALED ALL TOTAL ALMOST A THOUSAND UNITS ALREADY WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES.
SO I HAVE TO BE HONEST AND SAY THAT WE'RE NOT THRILLED WITH THE IDEA OF A FOURTH APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN CROWN RIDGE.
NEVERTHELESS, THE CROWN RIDGE MASTER ASSOCIATION BOARD AND THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE JUNIOR BOARD HAVE WORKED WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER TO MITIGATE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTS IN THE HEIGHTS PORTION OF CROWN RIDGE.
WHILE SOME TECHNICALITIES REMAIN TO BE FINALIZED, WE'VE REACHED AN AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE ON THE CONDITIONS ACCEPTABLE TO US, UH, WHICH WILL PROVIDE A PHYSICAL BUFFER BETWEEN THE EXISTING HOMES AND THE APARTMENTS, AND PROVIDE FOR A NEW SEPARATE ACCESS POINT INTO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX OFF OF BABCOCK ROAD, WHICH WILL PRECLUDE THE NECESSITY OF ANY APARTMENT TRAFFIC TRAVERSING OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO UTILIZE ONLY 18 AND A HALF ACRES OF THE 43 ACRE TRACT, DEEDING THE REMAINING 24 AND A HALF ACRES OF CROWN RIDGE TWO CROWN RIDGE AS A CONSERVATION AREA TO REMAIN FOREVER UNDEVELOPED FROM JANUARY, 1995 THROUGH THE END OF 2000.
GEORGE W. BUSH WAS A POPULAR REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF TEXAS, ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES TO IMPROVE EDUCATION AND ADDRESS OTHER STATE ISSUES DURING HIS FIRST FOUR YEAR TERM.
BOB BULLOCK, A LONGTIME POWERFUL DEMOCRATIC POLITICIAN, SERVED AS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS SENATE.
I'LL SKIP DOWN REAL QUICKLY AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THINGS WORKED FOR GOVERNOR BUSH BECAUSE OF COMPROMISE, AND THEREFORE, HERE, I'M HERE TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, NEITHER THE CROWN RIDGE MASTER ASSOCIATION BOARD, NOR THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE BOARD OPPOSE THIS PROPOSED REZONING.
AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'M A COMPROMISED KIND OF GUY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. KELLY, ROBERT LENZ.
MR. LYNCH, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY FRANK CER AND I SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT I, THERE WE GO.
HOW DO I DO I DO I, HOW DO I CONTROL THIS PRESS NEXT.
UM, SO REAL QUICK, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, UH, CROWN RIDGE ASSOCIATION CAME UP HERE.
THEY, NO ONE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH HIS AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
SO IT'S BEEN A VERY LACK OF COMMUNICATION HERE.
ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU COULD SEE THAT, UH, THIS WAS THE BALLOON TEST DONE BY THE DEVELOPER.
VERY DECEIVING AND NOT ACCURATE.
ON THE LEFT IS THE REAL PHOTO THAT I TOOK, UH, WITH MY DRONE.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA IMPACT THE, THE AREA QUITE A BIT.
SAME THING WITH THE FOLLOWING ONE HERE.
UM, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE DEVELOPER DID FROM HIS DRONE FOOTAGE.
I WENT UP THERE THIS AFTERNOON.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT THOSE APARTMENTS ARE GONNA DO.
THEY'RE GONNA LOOK DIRECTLY INTO THE BACK OF ALL THOSE HOMES AND GO ALL THE WAY OVER TWO OR THREE STREETS THERE, AS YOU CAN SEE,
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WHICH WILL IMPACT THE OVERALL COMMUNITY.SO THIS ISN'T VE BEING TESTED ACCURATELY.
UM, HERE'S ANOTHER PHOTO FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE.
ON THE RIGHT THERE IS THE OTHER APARTMENTS THAT WE'RE REZONED.
AGAIN, THIS MASTER PLAN IN THIS COMMUNITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN RESIDENTIAL, BUT BECAUSE OF BAD BUSINESS AND BAD BUSINESS DEALS, THE BACKEND WAS REZONED.
AS THE COMMUNITY WAS DEVELOPED, WE ACTUALLY PAID A PREMIUM TO HAVE THE VIEW.
AND NOW THE TOP OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, AGAIN, BEING REZONED WITH PEOPLE, WORKING THE SYSTEM, WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE RULES AND THE LOOPHOLES TO BE ABLE TO PUSH THEIR AGENDA AGAINST THE RESIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LOOK A LOT MORE INTO THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IF YOU WALK UP THERE.
AND THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE BLOCKING, EVERYBODY KEEPS REFERENCING THOSE SIX HOUSES.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT THOSE SIX HOUSES 'CAUSE THEY FACE TWO OTHER HOUSES.
THE STREET OF REAL RIDGE IS THE ONES THAT'S IMPACTED THE MOST.
AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS INFORMATION IS EVERYTHING'S WRONG WITH IT.
THE BUILDER AND THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER HAD A BAD BUSINESS DEAL TWICE.
AND THE DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, KEEP TELLING YOU LIKE ALL THE REASONS WHY THE APARTMENTS, BUT NOT RESIDENTIAL.
AND IT'S NONE OF IT'S ACCURATE.
OUR H O A LAST NIGHT SHARED WITH US THAT THEY WERE GONNA SUPPORT THIS AGENDA.
NO ONE IN THE COMMUNITY KNEW ABOUT THIS.
YOU KNOW, I LOOK TO YOU GUYS TO SUPPORT US AS PEOPLE AND INDIVIDUAL IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN OUR H O A SIGNS UP TO PUT ALL THESE STIPULATIONS TO PROTECT US.
I LIVE ON REAL RIDGE WHERE THESE APARTMENTS ARE LOOKING IN.
THIS WILL BE THE SECOND TIME I'LL HAVE A SET OF APARTMENTS BEHIND ME.
I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE ARE TRULY GOING BEHIND MY BACK.
PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THE TRAFFIC DOESN'T IMPACT ANYBODY.
LISTEN, I HAVE THESE APARTMENTS BEHIND ME.
THE LIGHTS ARE IN MY HOUSE EVERY DAY.
I HEAR THE DOGS BARKING EVERY SINGLE DAY.
'CAUSE ALL THE APARTMENT DOORS FACE OUR HOUSE.
CARS FIRING UP 'CAUSE IT ECHOES THROUGH THE VALLEY 'CAUSE IT'S ON A HILL.
THIS IS COMPLETELY BEING LOOKED.
UM, AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO REALLY LOOK AT THE SITUATION AND TAKE THE TIME TO HELP US BECAUSE WE'RE CONFUSED.
PEOPLE SIGNED UP HERE, DIDN'T KNOW WHEN TO SIGN UP.
WE LOST TIME TODAY BECAUSE OF THIS.
WE NEED YOU, MANNY, TO STEP UP AND KIND OF LOOK INTO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
WE NEED A REAL BALLOON TEST, REAL FACTS, REAL THINGS LAID OUT, MAN.
FRANK SARAH, FOLLOWED BY SUNNY SINGH.
I HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.
UM, IF Y'ALL CAN BRING THAT UP FOR ME.
UH, SO GUYS, ALONG WITH WHAT ROBERTS JUST SHARED, UH, ALSO WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF ECOLOGICAL ISSUES IN THE AREA.
THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED OF.
UH, AS YOU GUYS MAY KNOW, FRIEDRICH PARK IS THE ADJACENT HILL TO, UH, WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE.
FRIEDRICH IS, UH, KNOWN AS A BIRD SANCTUARY FOR BOTH THE GOLDEN SHEIK WARBLER, UH, AND THE BLACK CAPPED VIE.
UM, RECENTLY THE MANSIONS AT, UH, LA ANDRA, UH, DID NOT FOLLOW DUE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ENDANGERED SPECIES WOULD BE CORRECTED.
THEY WENT AHEAD AND RAISED THE LAND, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT STRESS ON THOSE POPULATIONS OF ANIMALS AGAIN, UH, WHICH WOULD AGAIN HAPPEN WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW.
UH, ALSO BELOW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, A COUPLE OF HOUSES WHEN THEY WERE BEING CONSTRUCTED.
UH, WE FOUND THAT, UH, WE HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE EDWARDS AQUIFER.
UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL CAVERNS THAT OPENED UP A VERY LARGE SIZE, UH, 30 TO 44, UH, 30, EXCUSE ME, 30 TO 40 FEET DEEP AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE.
UH, SO ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S DONE ON TOP OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, WE HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN TOLD WOULD BE LIMITED TO A SMALL NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, HOMES.
UH, AND PART OF THAT WAS TO PREVENT THIS DAMAGE TO, UH, THE LOCAL ENVIRONMENT.
UM, ALSO FOLKS, THE AREA, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, BABCOCK ROAD.
THIS IS BABCOCK OLD BA UH, BABCOCK BY THE OLD WALTER GERLICH, UH, STABLES AND, UH, FOUR H COMMUNITY.
UH, THIS IS A SINGLE LANE EACH DIRECTION, ALREADY VERY TAXED, UH, PIECE OF, OF, UH, OF, UH, HIGHWAY, I'M SORRY, OF ROAD.
AND, UH, ADDING ADDITIONAL POPULATION TO THAT AREA.
THE ROADS JUST CANNOT SUPPORT IT.
UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE NEW LIGHTS PUT IN.
WE'D HAVE TO HAVE THOSE ROADS EXPANDED.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL, UH, MULTI-FAMILY UNITS PUT UP ON TOP.
ADDITIONALLY, THE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA ARE ALSO AT CAPACITY.
UH, BOTH, UH, BONNIE ELLISON AND MONROE MAY ELEMENTARIES ARE AT THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE HAVING, UH, PORTABLE BUILDINGS PUT UP TO MAKE ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL STUDENTS.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL KIDS IN THAT AREA, SO NOW WE'D HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT SPECIAL SESSION TO GET THAT, UH, UH, MANAGED AS WELL.
UH, GARCIA MIDDLE SCHOOL IN SAME AREA, ALSO OVERCROWDED, UH, IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUE.
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PLANNED, BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.UH, A LOT OF US DID PAY PREMIUM FOR NICE VIEWS.
UH, WE WERE ALWAYS TOLD THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME, UH, NICER HOMES PUT UP IN THAT AREA.
INSTEAD, WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE STORY APARTMENTS, UH, DESTROYING THE VIEW IN THE AREA.
I KNOW WE'VE ONLY GOT A COUPLE OF SECONDS LEFT.
UH, THE LAND THAT'S BEING PUT ASIDE IS GREEN SPACE GIVEN BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY IS ACTUALLY UNDEVELOPABLE.
IT IS SLOPED AT ABOUT 70 DEGREES.
UH, IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BUILD ON IT, IT'S THAT THE EXPENSE FOR THEM TO DO SO WOULD BE SO EXORBITANT THAT IT'S NOT WORTH IT.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, THIS HAS JUST RUN OFF INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD FROM, UH, FROM, UH, THE LOT THAT THEY'RE BUILDING.
I HAVE CEMENT FROM THOSE TRUCKS.
IT JUST RUNS INTO MY YARD ALREADY.
SO THAT'S, THANK YOU, MR. SERTA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. THANK YOU.
AND MANNY, YOU DON'T WANT SONNY SINGH.
MR. SINGH, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY JENNY SWILLEY.
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TO LET ME SPEAK ON THIS ONE.
I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALMOST SIX YEARS NOW.
WHILE IT WAS BUILT, I WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST FEW, UH, RESIDENTS TO MOVE INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE REASON WHY WE MOVED OVER THERE WAS THIS IS ONE OF THE PRISTINE AREA, RIGHT CLOSE TO THE CITY, WHICH WAS SPECIFICALLY BUILT FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT HOMES.
SO, ACCORDING TO YOUR MASTER PLAN, THE PHASE TWO OF HEIGHTS IS SUPPOSED TO BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND I'M ASKING YOU AS THE CITY COUNCILMEN AND CITY MAYOR, PLEASE DO NOT DEVIATE FROM YOUR OWN MASTER PLAN.
WE ARE NOT AGAINST BUILDING APARTMENTS, BUILD APARTMENTS IN THE CITY, CITY NEEDS APARTMENTS, REALLY, UH, TACKLE ITS GROWTH, BUT BUILD WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.
DON'T PUT APARTMENTS IN THE MIDDLE OF SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.
THERE ARE CLOSE TO, ACCORDING TO MY ESTIMATE, I HAVE A PICTURE ON MY PHONE, ABOUT 20 APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITHIN A THREE TO FOUR MILE A RADIUS, PROBABLY MORE THAN 10,000 UNITS.
THE MENTIONS ON LARA IS BUILDING TONS OF APARTMENTS, WHICH ARE NOT EVEN READY YET.
AND WE WANT TO BUILD MORE RIGHT NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE INVESTED FINANCIALLY, SOCIALLY, TO BE IN THAT PLACE.
I URGE MANY, I URGE YOU TO PLEASE VOTE AGAINST IT.
MS. WILLY, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY OSCAR CASTILLO.
I DO NOT LIVE IN THE HI HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE, BUT I LIVE IN CROWN RIDGE PROPER, AND I FEEL LIKE WE ARE A COMMUNITY AND I WANT TO SUPPORT MY NEIGHBORS NO MATTER WHAT AREA THEY LIVE IN.
WE ALREADY HAVE APARTMENTS, UH, IN THE AREA FROM BABCOCK TO HOWMAN, WHERE THESE APARTMENTS WILL BE BUILT.
THERE ARE 1,584 UNITS, AND THERE'S REALLY MORE.
THESE ARE THE ONLY ONES I COULD GET HOLD OF ON THE PHONE.
UH, IN CROWN RIDGE, WE HAVE TWO APARTMENTS, UH, VISTA RIDGE AND THE VIEW OF CROWN RIDGE.
THAT'S 568 APARTMENTS IN CREST BELLA, RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
WE HAVE TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES FOR 588 APARTMENTS.
WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS OF CROWN RIDGE, WE HAVE 1,653 PLUS APARTMENTS WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS.
WE HAVE FOUR CAR APARTMENT COMPLEXES AT THE RIM, FIVE AT LOCK RA SIX AT DOMINION DRIVE.
BETWEEN DOMINION DRIVE AND THE OAKS, UH, HOW MANY APARTMENTS IS ENOUGH? AND THEY ARE NOT FULL.
THEY'RE LUCKY IF THEY'RE 90% FULL, PARTICULARLY THOSE BETWEEN DOMINION DRIVE AND THE OAKS.
OKAY, I THINK THERE ARE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
WE DO HAVE SOME SLOW REACTION TIMES.
IT DEPENDS ON, OF COURSE, WHAT YOU'RE CALLING THEM FOR.
IF IT'S A MURDER OR A SHOOTING, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE PRETTY QUICK.
BUT IF IT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, SOMEBODY ON THE PROPERTY OR SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS TO BE SHOOT OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE NOT SO QUICK.
UH, VIA AND U T S A ONLY GO OUT TO CHASE HILL DRIVE.
THAT'S 2.6 MILES FROM, UH, FROM THE NEW APARTMENTS.
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BABCOCK HAS NO SIDEWALKS, NO BIKE LANES.UH, WELL, I WON'T SAY THEY HAVE NO SIDEWALKS.
THEY HAVE A FEW, BUT THEY'RE VERY SPOTTY.
AND PARTS OF BABCOCK DON'T EVEN HAVE A SHOULDER, SO THAT'S PRETTY DANGEROUS.
UH, ON THE LEFT, YOU'RE LOOKING SOUTH.
AND ON THE RIGHT, YOU'RE LOOKING, UH, SOUTH.
WHAT I REALLY WANT TO GET TO HERE IS TRASH ON BABCOCK ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
AND THE ISSUE THAT WORRIES ME THE MOST IS DRAINAGE.
SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT FOR THE LAST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, I'VE BEEN CRAZY ABOUT DRAINAGE.
THANK YOU, MS. WILLY, OSCAR CASTILLO, MR. CASTILLO, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY GABRIEL FERNANDEZ.
HELLO, MY NAME IS OSCAR CASTILLO.
I LIVE ON, UH, REAL RIDGE AT 1 8 9 0 6.
UH, THIS, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, RIGHT GONNA HAPPEN RIGHT ACROSS MY STREET, UH, STREET FROM MY HOME.
AND, UH, BASICALLY I'VE GONE DOOR TO DOOR AND GOT, UH, SIGNATURES.
I'VE GOT OVER 70 RIGHT HERE THAT ARE AGAINST THIS REZO, UH, REZONE REQUEST.
THE WHOLE COMMUNITY'S UNITED, UH, THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE.
AND WE GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE CROWN RIDGE AREA AS WELL.
AGAINST THIS, UH, WE FEEL THAT THIS, UH, PROCESS HAS BEEN RUSHED.
WITHIN 30 DAYS, THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF, UH, STUDY OR OVERSIGHT.
WE FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT MISSED.
UH, THE DEVELOPER'S ELEVATION STUDY WAS CONDUCTED WITHOUT ANYONE BEING NOTIFIED, UH, UNTIL AFTER IT WAS DONE.
AND NO INFORMATION NOR THE DETAILS HAVE BEEN SHARED TO THE OWNERS.
ALL RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN IT ALL EXCEPT FOR A FEW PHOTOS.
WE CAN'T TRANSCRIBE, WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS.
ALL RIGHT? THE BUILDING OF THE, OF THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD BE, WE WOULD INSTEAD OF, UH, THE APARTMENTS, AND WE WOULD WELCOME, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES RESIDENTS AND KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.
I MEAN, WITH THAT, THAT WOULD HELP OUT THE CITY MUCH MORE TO GIVE THE CITY MORE TIME TO DEVELOP THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS LACKING.
I'VE CALLED SS A P D BEFORE, UH, FOR, UH, SEVERAL TIMES, AND IT'S TAKEN THEM 30 TO 45 MINUTES TO RESPOND.
ONE TIME FRANK CALLED S A P D AND THE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, ARRIVED FIRST.
AND SO THERE'S NO, UH, BUS TRANSPORTATION, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.
THE SHOULDERS GET, UH, GET BLOCKED UP BY FALLEN TREES, AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR, UH, FOR THE CITY, UH, TO, TO, TO FIX THAT.
OKAY? I'VE GONE DOOR TO DOOR AND I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION AND DETAILS I CAN'T FINISH IN THE NEXT MINUTE.
BUT, UM, THE, THE SINKHOLE, THE CAVES ARE ON LION EDGE, WHERE THERE'S ONE, THERE'S DEFINITELY MORE.
THEY'VE, UH, WE HAD ONE, UH, ONE OF THE WORKERS ACTUALLY PULL OUT, UH, GO IN DOWN THERE, I WAS TOLD, AND PULL OUT A S STALAGMITE, WHICH TAKES MILLION, MILLIONS OF YEARS TO DEVELOP.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF WHAT IFS IN THAT LAND ITSELF.
THE VERY TOP IS, UH, YOU CAN'T PUT A HOUSE ON THERE.
AND, UH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BROKEN DOWN.
THERE'S A, WE, WE DO GET A LOT OF VISITORS IN THE AREA.
I KNOW, BECAUSE I HANG OUT IN FRONT AND I SEE THEM COME ALL THE TIME.
THEY HANG UP THERE, AND I DON'T MIND WHATSOEVER.
THEY CHECK OUT THE FIREWORKS FROM THE TOP OF THERE, AND THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, WE FEEL THAT IT HASN'T BEEN DONE RIGHT.
AND WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
UH, I'M ALSO, UH, RUNNING FOR H O A AND I'M EASILY GOING, I'M EASILY GONNA KNOCK THIS GUY OUT.
SO IT'S, IT'S A DONE DEAL WITH THE ELECTIONS, UH, WITH THAT.
UM, WE HAVE A POWERPOINT, BUT WE MAY HAVE TROUBLE, UM, SHARING IT ON THE SCREEN, BUT WE'LL HAVE YOU, UH, LOOK AT IT AFTERWARDS.
UM, I'M A NEW RESIDENT OF HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE AS WELL.
SO, THE, THE FIRST POINT I WANTED TO, TO RAISE IS JUST THE SUPPORT OF THE H O A.
UM, IT WAS PO POSTED LAST NIGHT IN, IN FACEBOOK, AND, AND IF WE CAN, UM, MAXIMIZE THAT SCREEN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT THE POINT OF THIS FIRST SLIDE IS THAT, UH, IT WAS CLEARLY REPRESENTED THAT, UH, SOME INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED TO THE H O A AND JUST SOME PARAPHRASING.
UH, THE DEVELOPERS INFORMED US, THE BOARD PRESIDENTS FOR EACH H O A MUST SIGN THE
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PROPOSED RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.IF THE DOCUMENT'S NOT SIGNED, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT INSIDE THE ZONING RESTRICTIONS AS LONG AS THEY GET APPROVAL TO REZONE.
UH, THE DOCUMENT RESTRICTS BOTH JOHN KELLY AND MYSELF FROM PUBLICLY OPPOSING THE PROJECT AT THE CITY MEETING.
AND IF I'M CALLED ON, I, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT IT.
I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY SUPPORT SHOWN AT THE MEETING.
SO THERE IS NO SUPPORT FROM THE H O A, FROM WHAT THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND.
UM, THE NEXT SCREEN SHOWS THE BALLOON TEST THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US.
UM, IT WAS, I, I ASKED FOR THIS REPEATEDLY, BUT I JUST RECEIVED IT THIS MORNING.
AND LIKE THE OTHER GENTLEMAN SAID, UM, THEY'RE INCONCLUSIVE AND NOT PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR DUE PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER SCREEN THAT I HAVE IS JUST SHOWING THE ELEVATIONS.
UM, I THINK IN THE MATERIALS THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS AND TO THE DECISION MAKERS, UM, THESE, THE STEEP ELEVATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN REPRESENTED.
UM, THE, THE FINISHED FLOOR OF THESE PROPOSED APARTMENTS WOULD BE AT THE CEILINGS OF THE HOUSES.
AND THE, THE MAIN POINT IS, UH, THIS IS ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL, WHERE THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF ABOUT 35 FEET.
AND WITH THE ZONING LAWS THAT WITHIN 50 FEET, UH, YOU'RE RESTRICTED TO 25 TO 35 FEET, BUT QUICKLY THEREAFTER, THE HEIGHTS CAN GET HIGHER.
AND WHAT WOULD THIS, WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING, UH, 35 FOOT CEILING ACROSS THE ENTIRE, UH, TOP OF THAT HILL, WE'LL HAVE MUCH HIGHER BUILDINGS BECAUSE THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE, UH, 35 FEET, THREE STORIES.
BUT THEN THE NEXT BUILDINGS BEHIND THAT WOULD BE FOUR STORIES.
AND SO I DON'T THINK THE FULL STORY'S BEEN REPRESENTED AS FAR AS THE ELEVATIONS OF THESE BUILDINGS, HOW THEY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN HEIGHTS AND CROWN RIDGE, AND EVEN, UH, EXTENDING OUT, UH, SEVERAL THOUSAND FEET IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND THE BALLOON TEST DOESN'T SHOW THIS.
AND SO I THINK THIS JUST NEEDS TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT SAN ANTONIO TO GROW.
WE THINK THAT THIS AREA SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL, AND WE CAN GROW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS, AS IT'S GROWN ALREADY THROUGH OUR STRONG COMMUNITY.
WE CAN HAVE A STRONGER COMMUNITY, UH, THINK ABOUT HALLOWEEN AND, AND THE GATHERINGS AND EVENTS WE CAN COME TO TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO HELP SAN ANTONIO.
AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S DONE FOR US SO FAR.
WE FEEL SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AREA.
SO I JUST PLEASE, UH, TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THIS.
MR. CARD, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY TERRY MCMANUS.
UM, I LIVE AT 7 64 EAST LOCUST, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT'S ASKED TO BE REZONED.
UH, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
UM, THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS I'M CONFUSED, IS HOW THE, THE PROJECT EVEN MADE IT THROUGH.
UM, FOR REVIEW AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, I'M TALKING WITH ALL THE ZONING STAFF AND COUNCILMAN STAFF, AND EVERYONE AGREES THAT THE APPLICATION WAS INCOMPLETE AND WAS INACCURATE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BEEN CORRECTED OR NOT, BUT WHAT YOU HAVET PRESENTED IN FRONT OF YOU, DECISIONS WERE MADE BASED UPON AN INACCURATE APPLICATION, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT MORE.
UM, ONE COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, ONE COMMISSIONER, UH, VOTED AGAINST THE PROJECT BECAUSE THEY WERE FRUSTRATED WITH THE FACT THAT THE INFORMATION SUBMITTED TO THEM WAS NOT COMPLETE AND ACCURATE, BUT ANOTHER SAID THAT, HEY, EVERYTHING ELSE SEEMS TO BE GOING THAT WAY.
SO WHY DON'T WE REZONE THIS ONE I D Z TWO.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY SECOND POINT.
WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL DENSITY ON THE STREET.
IT'S ACCOMMODATED OR DESIGNED FOR ABOUT 36 RESIDENCES.
THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BLOCK HAS ALREADY BEEN REZONED.
THERE ARE 30 SOME ODD UNITS BETWEEN TWO DEVELOPMENTS, EXCUSE ME, 35 UNITS, WHICH ARE ALREADY DOUBLING THE DENSITY OF THE STREET.
AND ONCE THE DEVELOPERS BUILD OUT THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN REZONED FOR I D Z TWO, WE'RE GONNA BE TRIPLING THE DENSITY OF THE STREET.
AND IF THE PRECEDENT THAT SAID, IF THIS IS APPROVED AND MOVES FORWARD, THEN THE, THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET COULD LEAD TO FOUR TO FIVE TIMES THE, UH, DESIGN DENSITY FOR THE STREET.
WHICH LEADS TO MY THIRD POINT.
THIS, WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THIS MUCH DENSITY.
MY STREET 700 BLOCK OF LOCUST IS WHAT'S KNOWN AS A LOCAL BEE.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, IT MEANS IT'S DESIGNED FOR THE LOWEST INTENSITY IN THE LOWEST DENSITY IN USES FOR A RESIDENTIAL STREET IN THE CITY.
ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU ABOUT 36 UNITS IF THE DENSITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING.
IF THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR MORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE ALREADY AT ABOUT A HUNDRED UNITS ON THE STREET, WE COULD BE 120, 130 UNITS DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S DEVELOPED.
THE STREET CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.
UM, I'VE HEARD THE ARGUMENT MULTIPLE TIMES THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT BUILD TOWN HOMES THAT THEY CANNOT SELL.
SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING.
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ID Z ZONING ALLOWS THEM TO CUT THE ZONING OR THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IN HALF.SO EVEN IF EACH OF THOSE UNITS PROVIDES TWO FOR THEIR THREE OR FOUR BEDROOM APARTMENTS, WHERE ARE THEIR GUESTS GOING TO PARK AT 180, LET'S JUST CALL IT CONSERVATIVELY, 80 ADDITIONAL UNITS ON THE STREET.
WE HAVE A SHORTFALL OF PROBABLY 50 ON STREET PARKING SPACES AS IF THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 20 THAT YOU COULD EVEN BUILD ON THE STREET.
UM, LASTLY, UM, I HAVE A CONCERN OF THE PRECEDENT THAT'S BEING SET.
THE APPLICANT HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT HE INTENDS TO GO DIRECTLY AFTER THIS MEETING TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS TO TRY TO GET HIGHER, UH, UH, TALLER BUILDING, UM, AND MORE DENSITY ON THE SITE.
UM, AND HE'S, UH, FILLED OUT AN APPLICATION, HAS GIVEN AN APPLICATION THAT INDICATES THAT WHICH IS IN VIOLATION OF THE ZONING THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO APPROVE.
MR. MCMANUS SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY PAUL LATIMER.
NEITHER COULD JEFFREY STROMBERG STROMBERG.
UM, A LOT OF HALF TRUTHS THERE FROM JONATHAN CARD.
JONATHAN HAS THE ONLY HOUSE ON THE STREET THAT IS AN OUTLIER.
JONATHAN HAS OFFERED TO BUY MY PROPERTY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
HE SAID HE COULD COMBINE HIS AND PUT SEVEN TOWN HOMES THERE.
NOW HE'S WORRIED ABOUT DENSITY.
UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE, UH, AND WE DID CORRECT THE APPLICATION ORIGINALLY.
ANOTHER ARCHITECT FILLED IT OUT AND ASKED FOR RIDICULOUS NUMBER OF STORIES.
UM, THAT APPLICATION LAST YEAR FELL, UH, THROUGH, I FIRED THE ARCHITECT.
AND, UH, SO WE'VE STARTED OVER AND WE DID ADJUST THE APPLICATION.
AND IT DID PASS, I THINK, WITH THREE VOTES AGAINST.
AND THE REST FOUR DISTRICT ONE, UH, LIKED THE PROPOSAL.
COUNCILMAN TREVINO'S NOT HERE.
UH, SUMMER GREATHOUSE AND ELL BROOKS AND CHRISSY MCCAIN, WHEN SHE WAS THERE, WERE FOR THE PROJECT, AND SHE SUGGESTED THE I D Z UH, TWO ZONING.
THIS PROPERTY WILL BE LESS HIGH THAN MR. CARD'S HOUSE, LESS HEIGHT THAN THE SOJO TOWN HOMES OF 30 SOMETHING, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER 20 OR SO.
UM, IT'S COMMERCIAL ON EITHER END.
THERE'S ONLY CONCLUDING MR. CARD'S HOUSE MINE, WHICH NEEDS KNOCKED DOWN.
UM, THERE'S ONLY THREE OTHER HOUSES, AND THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE HAD A CONTRACT ON IT LAST YEAR.
HE'S HOLDING OUT FOR TOP DOLLAR.
AND THEN ANOTHER PERSON IS, AND THE OTHER HOUSE IS FOR INVESTMENT.
IT'S, IT WILL BE PARKING EIGHT PARKING SPOTS, UH, ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
AND I WILL HAVE SOMETHING THAT SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, UNITS DON'T.
I WILL HAVE A DEDICATED ELEVATOR AND A STAIRWELL IN THE GALLERY.
SO IT WILL BE THREE STORIES HIGH.
WHAT HE SAID ABOUT ME GOING BACK TO ADJUSTMENT AND ASKING FOR MORE HEIGHT IS BLATANT LIE.
HE'S THE ONE, AS WE TALKED THAT SAID I COULD DO THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT THE ZONING ALLOWED.
BUT I HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING THAT.
YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP ME AT 35 FEET.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE 30 FEET PLUS A FOUR FOOT PARAPET WALL FOR THE ROOF, SO NOBODY FALLS OFF AND HIDE THE AIR CONDITIONERS.
UM, I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD JUST TREAT ME LIKE YOU DID SOJO DAVID WEEKLY UP THE STREET AND, AND THE PROJECT AT LIKE 2 25 PINE, WHERE THEY GO 35 FEET OR MORE IN THE SAME KIND OF MORE RESIDENTIAL AREA THAN WHERE I AM.
IT'S INDUS, IT WAS INDUSTRIAL.
IT'S STARTING TO BE VERY NICE RIGHT NOW.
UM, I KNOW YOU SAID PAUL LATIMER IS NOT HERE, JUST TO BE SURE.
JEFFREY STROMBERG ALSO NOT HERE.
TIM STEWART, YOU'RE, YOU'RE YIELDING YOUR TIME, MR. STEWART.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL.
IT'S AT, UH, SSA IN I 10 ACROSS FROM THE DOMINION IN COUNCILMAN PLYS DISTRICT.
UH, THIS IS A TOWN HOME PROJECT.
UH, WE STARTED WITH 72 HOMES, UH, WORKING WITH THE FRIENDS OF SAN ANTONIO NATURAL AREAS AND WITH THE COUNCILMAN PLYS OFFICE.
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THAT DOWN TO 54 HOMES.UM, IT IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
SO OUR PUD PLAN ACTUALLY SHOWS 52 UNITS OR HOMES.
UH, THE CODE ALLOWS FOR A 10% INCREASE.
SO TO, UH, PREVENT AGAINST THAT, UH, WE HAVE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WITH, UH, THE FRIENDS OF SAN ANTONIO NATURAL AREAS, UH, LIMITING THAT, UH, THE NUMBER OF HOMES TO 54.
THERE'S ALSO ABOUT A DOZEN OTHER PROTECTIONS AND RESTRICTIONS IN THERE, UH, FOR THE PARK.
UH, THESE INCLUDE USE OF NATIVE PLANTS, UH, PROHIBITING INVASIVE SPECIES, UH, RESTRICTIONS ON CATS, LIGHTING, OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, UH, VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ACROSS FROM THE PARK.
UH, AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY, A A VERY LARGE BUFFER ON THE PARK SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, I DO ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT STONEWALL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
AND, AND, UH, I'LL END WITH, UH, A THANK YOU TO THE FRIENDS OF SAN ANTONIO NATURAL AREAS AS WELL AS, UH, LAURA AND, AND EVERYBODY IN COUNCILMAN PLYS OFFICE FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS ON THIS.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, THAT'S EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON CONSENT ZONING ITEMS. UM, WE'LL TAKE COUNCIL COMMENT.
WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN ELIAS.
UH, MR. GRIFFIN, WHO JUST SPOKE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
I KNOW THAT WE ASKED YOU, UH, TO MAKE SOME SACRIFICES.
UH, I KNOW THAT OUR FRIENDS OF FRIEDRICH PARK, THERE'S SOME HARD NEGOTIATORS, UM, AND THEY CERTAINLY KNOW HOW TO TEST A PERSON'S, UM, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATION SKILLS AND YOURS WERE TESTED.
UH, BUT YOU, YOU CAME AT, UH, THE OTHER END, UH, WHICH WITH SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE IS GONNA BE A WONDERFUL PROJECT FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
AND, AND THANK YOU TO YOUR CLIENT, UH, ALSO TO BE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, UH, MEMORIALIZE THOSE COMMITMENTS IN, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.
UM, MAYOR, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT ITEM Z 25 AND P THREE.
UM, AND FOR MY COLLEAGUES, UH, WHO ARE HERE, UM, THIS IS A, A VERY SENSITIVE, UM, UH, TOPIC IN THIS ONE PART OF TOWN.
UM, FOR ALL OF YOU THAT HAVE EVER DRIVEN OUT THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, SPRAWL AND GROWTH IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF THESE, UH, GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE DEALING WITH EVERY SINGLE DAY.
IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT EASY BEING A CROWN RIDGE, UH, UH, RESIDENT THESE DAYS.
UM, AND YOU, YOU SAW SOME OF THAT PLAY OUT TODAY AT THE PODIUM.
UM, AND FOR THOSE OF THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO CAME OUT AND TOOK AN INTEREST, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
UH, MR. KELLY, UH, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE PUT IN A LOT OF WORK, UH, INTO THIS.
AND, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, MR. UH, DAVE, UH, PARKERSON AND ROB KILLEN AND AARON BLA, AND, UH, CAN I, CAN I GET DAVE PARKERSON OR, OR, AND, AND MR. KILLEN OR AARON LAY UP HERE REAL QUICK.
NOW, MR. KILLEN, UH, MR. PARKERSON, CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH THIS PROPERTY IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH A PLAN THAT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED? UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UH, COUNCIL PLY IS ROB KILLEN, 100 WEST HOUSTON STREET HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
WITH ME AS DAVID PARKERSON, WHO'S THE DEVELOPER, ALSO THE ENGINEER.
I, I WANT TO ALSO ECHO, UH, MY THANKS TO MR. UH, KELLY, UH, CROWN RIDGE OWNER ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE ASSOCIATION, PLANNING, COMMISSION, ZONING, COMMISSION, AND PARTICULAR COMMISSIONERS, ROMERO AND MCDANIEL.
I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T, UH, MENTION THEIR HELP AND SUPPORT.
UH, SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX.
THE R SIX ZONING ALLOWS FOR A DENSITY THAT WOULD PERMIT 301 HOUSES.
NOW, THE TOPOGRAPHY FOR THE SITE, YOU COULDN'T ACTUALLY BUILD 300 HOUSES THERE, BUT YOU COULD PROBABLY FIT IN ABOUT 200 HOUSES IS WHAT WE'VE CALCULATED.
200 HOUSES ON THIS 40 ACRE PROPERTY.
IT'S, UH, VESTED FROM CURRENT REGULATIONS LIKE TREE PRESERVATION LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE.
SO YOU, YOU COULD PUT A LOT OF HOUSES OUT THERE.
AND TRAFFIC STUDIES DEMONSTRATE THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT OF 200 HOUSES IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN 300 APARTMENT UNITS.
SO, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, AGAIN, THE ZONING ALLOWS FOR 300.
IT'S ABOUT 200 HOUSES YOU COULD BUILD OUT THERE.
AND THOSE CARS FOR THOSE HOUSES WOULD FLOW THROUGH THE HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE AS OPPOSED TO EMPTYING OUT ONTO BABCOCK ROAD.
MR. MR. PERON, I, I'VE LOOKED AT YOUR PROJECT, UM, I, I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY PUT A HUNDRED FIFTY, A HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE.
I, I THINK 200 IS, UM, WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY TIGHT.
BUT, UM, I, I, I GOTTA TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN TORN ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN AFRAID OF THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
UM, AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE PUT IT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BUILT THESE HOMES, MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'D HAVE TO PUNCH OUT THROUGH LUTKEY IF YOU BUILT THE HOUSES.
UH, ACTUALLY WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS, UH, HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE UNIT ONE.
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EXISTING HOMES THERE NOW HAVE PUBLIC ROADWAYS THROUGH THEM THAT SERVICE OUR HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE UNIT TWO TRACKED WITH TWO PUBLIC ROADWAY, UH, ACCESS.SO WE WOULD, ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, ALL OF THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL USE TRAFFIC FOR THE ADDITIONAL 200 HOMES WOULD TRAVEL THROUGH THE EXISTING HEIGHTS OF CROWN RIDGE UNIT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR'S, UH, APPOINTEE TO THE, UH, ZONING COMMISSION AND MY APPOINTEE TO THE ZONING COMMISSION HAVE INFORMED ME THAT Y'ALL HAVE REACHED AN AGREEMENT, UM, AND HAVE ACTUALLY NEGOTIATED COVENANTS WITH THE H O A.
AND SO I'M GONNA READ WHAT I THINK IS, IS, IS THE CASE, AND YOU TELL ME IF I GOT THIS WRONG, Y'ALL ARE DONATING A CONSERVATION AREA TO THE H O A, UM, THAT WILL BE PERMANENTLY GREEN SPACE.
UM, AND THE H O A WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THEY WANT WITH IT.
UM, AND THEY CAN ADD IT AND THEY WILL ADD IT TO THE EXISTING CROWN RIDGE CANYON, UH, RESERVE THAT THEY'VE GOT.
UM, THE EXIT FROM THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WILL BE ON BABCOCK ROAD, UM, AS OPPOSED TO PUNCHING THROUGH, UH, TO THESE PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO GENERATE LESS TRAFFIC THAN 150 200 HOMES.
UM, THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO ADHERE TO THE CURRENT TREE ORDINANCE, NOT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY, WHAT, WHAT IS IN PLACE THERE RIGHT NOW, ROB? SO, COUNSEL, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE, IN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, WE'VE AGREED TO WAIVE ANY RIGHTS.
WE HAVE IN OUR CHAPTER 2 45, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH IS A VESTED RIGHTS STATUTE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CROWN RIDGE OF TEXAS.
PRELIMINARY OVERALL AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF OUR TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.
SINCE THE PLAN SHOWS SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO CURRENT ORDINANCES, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE DON'T THINK THAT MULTIFAMILY WOULD ENJOY THOSE RIGHTS, BUT WE ARE EXPLICITLY WAIVING ANY RIGHTS WE HAVE UNDER CHAPTER 2 45.
AND THEN, MR. KELLY, UH, I KNOW YOU'RE IN THE BACK THERE.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAD ON UP HERE REAL QUICK? 'CAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE LAST PERSON I'M GONNA BOTHER WITH.
UM, WHEN YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, ON THE BOARD OF THE OTHER H O A AGREED TO THIS AND SIGNED OFF ON THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND ALL THAT, UM, YOU INFORMED YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT? YES, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS.
NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, GET AS MUCH TURNOUT AS YOU'D PREFER TO HAVE.
BUT I THINK PEOPLE HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON IT.
AND WE REALIZE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THERE'S GONNA BE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF HAVING APARTMENTS, BUT WE FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO WORK WITH A DEVELOPER TO CREATE, UH, AS LEAST AS, YOU KNOW, TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
ALRIGHT, I GOT SEVEN PEOPLE BEHIND YOU WHO ARE, UH, SHAKING THEIR HEAD NO.
UM, AND SO WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, TO ENCOURAGE YOU, MR. KELLY, IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, AFTER TODAY THAT, THAT Y'ALL GET TOGETHER WITH, WITH THOSE SEVEN FOLKS AND, AND HAVE, HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, MORE ENGAGEMENT AND, AND HAVING MORE BUY-IN AND CONSENSUS.
SURE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
I WOULD SAY THAT ALL THIS MOVED PRETTY FAST.
AND SO THAT REALLY LIMITED OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS, BUT WE WILL DO A BETTER JOB.
ALRIGHT, MY, TO MY COLLEAGUES, UM, THANK YOU FOR SITTING THROUGH THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
WE HAD A POWER PRESENTATION WITH MY PHOTO UP THERE DURING A ZONING CASE.
UH, BUT I, THIS IS A DIFFICULT ONE.
UM, THIS IS A DIFFICULT ONE FOR ME, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN, UM, A DEVELOPER AGREE TO MORE STRINGENT, UM, TREE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, UM, TO GIVE UP VALUABLE LAND.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, AGREE TO NOT PUNCH THROUGH WHERE THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO PUNCH THROUGH.
UM, AND INSTEAD DIVERT TRAFFIC.
THIS ONE'S BEEN REALLY PAINFUL FOR EVERYBODY.
MY STAFF HAS, HAS WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT.
UM, UH, MR. KILLEN, AARON BLY OR BLAY WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD ON IT.
AND SO, UH, WE, UH, UM, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, A DEAL WHICH, UH, PRODUCES EVERYBODY, UM, UNHAPPINESS IS PROBABLY THE BEST DEAL THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET.
UM, AND IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT, UH, FOLKS THAT HAVE SACRIFICED A LOT ON BOTH SIDES TO GET HERE.
AND SO WITH THAT, UH, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY KEEPING IT ON CONSENT.
UM, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY I, I KNOW THE AREA, UH, IT'S A DIFFICULT AREA.
APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORS COMING OUT.
UM, OUR PHILOSOPHY UP THERE WHEN I WAS IN YOUR SEAT, COUNCILMAN, IS THAT IF WE COULD USE THE LAW IN OUR FAVOR TO STOP THE SCRAPING OF CROWN RIDGE, THAT WAS A GOOD THING.
UM, AND SO, UH, ADHERING TO THE TREE ORDINANCE, UH, IS A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE CAN DO FOR CROWN RIDGE FOR THE MILITARY, UH, FOR EVERYTHING GOING ON ALONG I 10.
SO, UM, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA.
THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR 37, A, B P ONE, AND Z ONE Z SEVEN,
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Z NINE, Z 15, Z 22, AND Z 23.MOTION CARRIES ITEMS 37 A AND 37 B.
ITEM 37 A IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 35 OF THE SAN ANTONIO CITY CODE, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE U D C BY ADOPTING ARTICLE NINE RELATED TO THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, MILITARY PROTECTION AREA REGULATIONS FOR CAMP BULLIS AND LACKLAND.
ITEM 37 B IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND MASTER INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BEAR COUNTY TO ADD AN ADDENDUM TO ESTABLISH A DIVISION OF RESPONSIBILITIES RELATING TO ADMINISTRATION OF LAND USE CONTROLS WITHIN THE E T J M P A.
MIKE, YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? I DO, I DO.
I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LONG DAY SO FAR AND WE GET MORE BEHIND US.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO, UH, JUST GO OVER QUICKLY, UH, WHY WE'RE HERE.
THIS IS, UH, AN IMPORTANT, UM, UH, INITIATIVE, UH, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TODAY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE END OF A LONG JOURNEY TO GET HERE.
UH, IT'S CALLED THE ILL, UH, E T J MILITARY PROTECTION AREAS.
SO, UM, UH, COUNCIL, UH, THE MAYOR, UH, JUST MENTIONED IT.
THE PROTECTION OF THE MILITARY IS KEY TO WHAT WE DO AS A CITY, UH, FOR THE PAST DECADE.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CITY ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED TO HELP PROTECT THE MISSION AROUND THE MILITARY BASES.
UH, WE ARE MILITARY CITY, U S A, SO I'VE LISTED THEM UP THERE, UH, BUT THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR TO ALL.
SO WHAT HAPPENED A COUPLE YEARS AGO? UH, THIS GOES BACK TO OUR ANNEXATION.
UH, SO THIS, THE, THE, THE ANNEXATION LAWS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS CHANGED A COUPLE YEARS AGO THROUGH THE, UH, LEGISLATURE IN, UH, 2017, UH, SENATE BILL SIX.
THAT WAS THE ONE THAT SAID, IN ORDER TO ANNEX, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, UH, CERTAINLY A VOTE, UH, FOR THOSE AREAS, BUT CERTAINLY AROUND MILITARY INSTALLATIONS WE WERE OFFERED, UH, AND GIVEN EXTRA ABILITY TO PROTECT THE MILITARY MISSIONS AROUND THERE.
UH, SO WE WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO, UH, GIVE THOSE RESIDENTS AN AREA TO VOTE FOR.
ANNEXATION OR OPTION TWO IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY, UH, ALLOWING THE CITY TO IMPROVE, UH, AND IMPOSE SOME LAND USE REGULATIONS, UH, THAT ARE ATTACHED TO, UH, THE MOST RECENT LAND USE STUDY.
AGAIN, UH, THIS IS A MILITARY PROTECTION ORDINANCE.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW.
MANY OF YOU, UH, HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
UH, IN AUGUST, UH, CITY COUNCIL GAVE US DIRECTION AS A CITY TO HAVE A VOTE, UH, IN TWO AREAS, UM, FOR AROUND CAMP BOLUS, CAMP STANLEY, LACKLAND, AND THEN LACKLAND, UH, UH, AIR FORCE BASE AND MEDINA ANNEX.
IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY, UH, THOSE RESIDENTS, UH, CHOSE OPTION TWO RATHER THAN OPTION ONE.
UM, AND SO, UH, IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, WE PRESENTED TO THE B SESSION, UH, THOSE RESULTS AND A PATH MOVING FORWARD OF HOW WE WOULD GET TO HERE TODAY.
SO, JUST TO LOOK AT THE TWO AREAS, THE AREA AROUND LACKLAND, UH, IF YOU RECALL, IT'S ABOUT 20 SQUARE MILES, UH, FOR THE, THE, THE NUMBERS ARE THERE, UH, ABOUT 15,000 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, ABOUT 59% VACANT.
AND THEN THE AREA AROUND CAMP BULLIS, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, ABOUT 22, UH, SQUARE MILES.
UM, 18,000, UH, ESTIMATED POPULATION WITH ABOUT 36% OF THAT, UH, VACANT.
AND AGAIN, THE KEY AREA, THE KEY THERE IS THAT THOSE WERE SELECTED, UH, IN OUR ANNEXATION PLAN, OUR PROPOSED ANNEXATION PLAN AT THE TIME.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ANNEXATION.
SO WHAT DID WE DO OVER THE PAST EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS? UH, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH A PROCESS, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA.
WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ATTORNEYS, MILITARY, OF COURSE, BEXAR COUNTY, UM, AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
AND WE ALSO WORKED THROUGH THE SA SPEAKUP PROCESS, UH, TO, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT, UH, THIS NEW LAND USE CONTROL, UH, WOULD DO AND HOW TO MAKE IT WORK.
WE ALSO HELD FOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS OUT IN THOSE AREAS.
TWO, UM, UP IN THE LACKLAND AREA AND TWO, UH, IN THE CAMP AREA.
BOTH WERE IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, OR ALL FOUR.
UH, THERE'S JUST A TIMELINE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
UM, LET THAT GO, BUT THAT'S JUST A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE, UH, GONE THROUGH.
LAST MONTH, WE ACTUALLY PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, COMMITTEE.
THEY ASKED US TO BRING THIS TO YOU TODAY, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION.
SO, UH, JUST THIS WAS THE TIME OF, UH, UH, THE CITY.
WE WERE JUST STARTING OUR ESSAY SPEAK UP INITIATIVE.
WE DID DO, UH, A, A SURVEY THROUGH THAT ESSAY, SPEAKUP.
ONLY 44 RESPONDED, BUT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU SOME OF THE STATS OF WHAT WE SAW.
TWO THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED EITHER OWNED OR RENTED IN ONE OF THE AREAS.
THE KEY AREA, UH, ON THIS SLIDE IS, YOU'LL SEE 74% OF THE PEOPLE CONSIDER
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THE MILITARY A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, UH, PART, UH, OF, UH, SAN ANTONIO ECONOMIC FACTOR AND, AND THEIR IMPORTANCE.I THINK WE ALL KNEW THAT, BUT THAT JUST HELPS SOLIDIFY THAT.
AND THEN, UH, WHAT, WHAT ISSUES ARE IMPORTANT? WATER QUALITY DENSITY, LIGHTING, THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE ALL KNOW ARE IMPORTANT TO THE MILITARY MISSION.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR OVER A DECADE.
AND, UH, JUST SOME STATS AS TO, UH, WHO RESPONDED OUT OF THE 44, UH, MOSTLY MALES.
UH, THERE'S THE AGES, AND AGAIN, UH, MANY OF THEM WERE NOT IN COUNCIL DISTRICTS, BUT WE PUT IT UP THERE JUST AS, UH, TO BE THOROUGH.
SO, JUST TO GET BACK, UH, JUST TO REMIND YOU, WE HAVE EXISTING REGULATIONS IN THIS AREA ALL ALREADY IN OUR E T J.
WE HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE, PLATTING SIGN, ORDINANCE, MDPS, UH, WHICH IS, UH, A TOOL USED FOR, UH, THE VESTING MILITARY NOTIFICATION.
WHAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL DO IS CERTAINLY SOLIDIFY THOSE AS WELL.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE TREE ORDINANCE, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS A PROPOSAL EVERY TWO YEAR TO ELIMINATE OUR ABILITY TO EVEN HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE, ESPECIALLY IN THE E T J.
WITH THIS PROPOSED, UH, LAND USE CONTROLS IN THIS PROPOSED, UH, CODE CHANGE, WE WOULD CERTAINLY SOLIDIFY THAT, UH, MOVING FORWARD, UH, IN CASE THAT WERE EVER TO HAPPEN.
UM, AGAIN, ALL THESE REGULATIONS HAVE TO BY STATE LAW, ALIGN WITH THE, UH, THE, UH, MOST RECENT, UH, LAND USES.
CAMP OLIS, UH, WAS DONE IN 2009 AND, UH, CERTAINLY 2011.
IF AND WHEN WE UPDATE THOSE, WE'LL HAVE TO ALSO LOOK AT MAKING SURE WE STAY IN LINE WITH THAT, OUR PROPOSED REGULATIONS.
NOW, THIS IS NOT ZONING, THIS IS LAND USE CONTROL.
SO, UH, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT LAND USE CATEGORIES, WHICH GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THERE, BUT IT DOES ALLOW SOME CONTROL OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, THINGS LIKE DENSITY AND USE AND SUCH.
WE WOULD FOLLOW THE EXISTING PROCESSES FOR, UH, THOSE, UH, SOME OF THOSE ZONING, UH, PROTECTIONS OR THOSE LAND USE CONTROLS LIKE THE MILITARY LIGHTING OVERLAY DISTRICT SOUND ATTENUATION, WHERE APPROPRIATE AIRPORT HAZARD OVERLAY DISTRICT AND EDWARDS AQUIFER PROTECTION.
AND AGAIN, THE, THE KEY I THINK IN THIS SLIDE IS REVIEW AND ENFORCEMENT.
WE'VE DEVELOPED, WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH, UH, THE, THE BEAR COUNTY'S, UH, PERMITTING OFFICE, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
WE WILL WORK WITH THEM ON THESE PROJECTS TO REVIEW FOR COMPATIBILITY WITH THESE LAND USE CONTROLS.
UH, NOT SLOW DOWN ANY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, BUT ENSURE THAT THESE ARE, UM, UH, THESE ARE DONE THAT WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, UH, IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WILL, UH, WE'LL WORK WITH BEAR COUNTY TO EXECUTE, UH, TO KIND OF DEFINE THOSE ROLES, WHICH IS UPDATE OUR, UH, OUR BEAR COUNTY, UM, MASTER I L A.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE DO HAVE PENALTY ENFORCEMENTS, UH, FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, BOTH HEARD THIS.
THEY BOTH RECOMMENDED APPROVAL EACH THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, MADE, UH, SOME TWEAKS, CERTAINLY HAVING WHAT WE CALL A CERTIFICATE OF COMPATIBILITY.
THAT'S, I, I WON'T BE ISSUING A C A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THESE PROJECTS.
BUT WE WILL HAVE A, A STAMP OF APPROVAL, IF YOU WILL, THAT THESE ARE COMPLIANCE WITH THESE, UH, IMPORTANT RULES.
WE HAVE, UH, UH, DENSITY CLAUSES, WE HAVE CONTINUATION OF LAND USE, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW STATE LAW EVEN WITH THIS ON VESTING RIGHTS.
SO WE'VE BUILT ALL THAT INTO THE ORDINANCE.
UH, ZONING COMMISSION ALSO HAD A FEW, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.
UH, THE, AGAIN, UM, THEY EVEN WENT DOWN TO SOME OF THE UD U D C AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE ADDING THERE.
SO I THINK THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND HAD MANY OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR THAT.
SO, JUST TO, TO KIND OF FINISH UP, WE RECOMMEND, SO THIS IS 37 A AND B AS WAS READ.
UH, THIS IS ALSO INCLUDED WITH, UH, ITEMS P ONE AND Z ONE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE LAND USE CONTROLS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE JUST THOSE LIGHTING OVERLAYS AS SOUND ATTENUATION.
SO, UH, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS.
I KNOW THERE'S, UH, MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY, UH, HERE, UH, JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO.
UH, WE, WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND, UH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER, UH, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
WE DO HAVE A, A FEW FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM, UH, 37, AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THEM NOW.
SO, UM, I'LL CALL UP DISTINGUISHED COLONEL SAM, FIELD MAYOR NURNBERG CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS A GREAT SAN ANTONIO AFTERNOON TO YOU AND EVERYONE PRESENT HERE.
I AM COLONEL SAM FI, AND I AM THE COMMANDER OF THE FIVE OH SECOND FOR SUPPORT GROUP.
I'M ALSO THE EXECUTIVE AGENT FOR FORT SAM HOUSTON, AS WELL AS CAMP BULLIS.
AND I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF BRIGADIER GENERAL LAURA LINDERMAN, WHO IS THE COMMANDER OF THE FIVE OH SECOND AIR BASE WING AND JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO.
AND I HAVE A PREPARED STATEMENT HERE THAT I HAVE TO READ ON HER BEHALF.
DEAR MAYOR NUREMBERG AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS THE COMMANDER OF THE FIVE OH SECOND AIRBASE WING IN JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO.
I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR ALL OF THE OUTSTANDING SUPPORT IT PROVIDES TO JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO AND THE MEN AND
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WOMEN WHO WEAR THE UNIFORM.IN PARTICULAR, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY FOR ITS ONGOING EFFORTS TO PROMOTE COMPATIBLE LAND USE AROUND OUR INSTALLATION.
AND TO THAT END, WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH J B S A TO STRENGTHEN PROTECTIONS IN THE EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, MILITARY PROTECTION AREAS, THESE KINDS OF EFFORTS ARE A VITAL COMPONENT OF SUSTAINING OUR MANY CRITICAL MISSIONS.
AND JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THE CONTINUOUS SUPPORT MILITARY CITY U S A PROVIDES TO J B S A.
THE CITY'S PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO ITS UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ARE THE TYPES OF LOCAL PLANNING, ZONING, AND LAND USE CONTROLS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE RELIES ON TO PROTECT ITS INSTALLATION FROM THE ADVERSE IMPACTS OF INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT, THE THOUGHTFUL DEPLOYMENT OF LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING AUTHORITIES AROUND J B S A, INCLUDING THE PROTECTIONS SET FORTH IN THE MOST CURRENT JOINT LAND USE STUDIES ARE ESSENTIAL TOOLS TO ENSURE OUR MISSIONS ARE SUSTAINED.
J B S A FORT SAM HOUSTON IS A LINCHPIN FOR THE MAJORITY OF MEDICAL FIELD TRAINING ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.
THIS IS IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF THE AVAILABILITY OF ITS SUB INSULATION.
J B S A CAMP BULLIS FOR REALISTIC FIELD TRAINING BY STRENGTHENING THE CITY'S ABILITY TO ENSURE COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT AROUND CAMP BULLIS.
THE CITY IS PLAYING AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN ENSURING THE ONGOING CRITICAL TRAINING MISSIONS AT CAMP BULLIS, SPECIFICALLY IMPROVING ZONING CONTROLS TO LI LIMIT LIGHT POLLUTION AROUND CAMP BULLIS PROTECTS THE EXTENSIVE NIGHT TRAINING THAT GOES ON THERE.
IN ADDITION, PROTECTING TREES TO INCLUDE THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER HABITAT NEAR CAMP BULLIS REDUCES THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE REALISTIC MILITARY TRAINING.
THE E T J M P A AMENDMENTS ALSO ADDRESS SUSTAINING CHALLENGES AROUND J B S A LACHLAN AND THE ADJACENT MEDINA TRAINING.
J B S A LACHLAN IS KNOWN AS THE GATEWAY TO THE AIR FORCE BECAUSE ALL ENLISTED PERSONNEL ENTERING THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE BEGIN THEIR SERVICE TO OUR NATION AT THIS LOCATION TODAY, APPROXIMATELY 600 AIRMEN 500 WEEKS OUT OF THE YEAR GRADUATE FROM J B S A LACHLAN.
THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND SAN ANTONIO LEADERS WHO HAVE ENSURED COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF J B S A LACHLAN FOR THE LAST 75 YEARS.
WITH REGARDS TO THE MEDINA TRAINING ANNEX, OUR MISSION SYSTEMIC CONCERNS ARE FOCUSED ON CONTROLLING NEW SOURCES OF LIGHT POLLUTION TO PROTECT NIGHT TRAINING, AS WELL AS PREVENTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF LAND USES THAT WOULD BE HIGHLY SENSITIVE TO MILITARY OPERATIONAL NOISE FROM OUR SMALL ARMS TRAINING RANGES.
COLONEL FIELD, WHAT WE CAN DO IS, IS TAKE THE, UH, WRITTEN STATEMENT AND HAVE IT DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL AS WELL, IF YOU WANNA WRAP UP.
AND I WOULD JUST WRAP UP BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION THE SUPPORT, MAYOR, I'M SORRY, COLONEL, WAS MARY YIELDING TIME TO YOU? YES, SIR.
AND SIR, I WOULD JUST WRAP UP THE SAYING, THE PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE ET J M P A AROUND J B S A, LACHLAN AND MEDINA ASSIST IN COMBATING BOTH LIGHT POLLUTION AND INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS IMPORTANT MATTER, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENDURING SUPPORT TO OUR MILITARY MISSIONS AND THE SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN GOVERNMENT, CIVILIANS, RETIREES, AND VETERANS WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THIS GREAT CITY.
GREATLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND YOUR CIVIC LEADERSHIP.
ALRIGHT, MEG REYES, YOU'RE SEATING YOUR TIME.
UH, ITEM 37 AND 30 A, UM, EXCUSE ME, 37 A AND B, UM, COUNCILS MEMBER ELAS.
JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S ITEMS 37 A AND B AND THEN P ONE ALSO, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW? UH, JUST 37.
WELL, IN THAT CASE, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 37, UH, WITH AMENDMENTS TO STRIKE SECTION 35 DASH 9 1 3 SUB B SUB FIVE, SUB, UH, SIX FROM ARTICLE NINE RELATED TO FIREWORK SALES.
I'M ALL RIGHT, SECOND, SORRY, I NEED SOMEBODY TO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.
WHY IS THAT COMING TO US RIGHT NOW? UM, I BELIEVE THE, THE HE'S, UH, COUNCILMAN IS, IS, UH, UH, TAKING OUT THE FIREWORKS SALES LANGUAGE.
WE ACTUALLY INCLUDED THAT INTO THE PROCESS.
HOWEVER, IN LOOKING AT STATE LAW FOR OUR FIREWORKS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT ALLOWED TO REGULATE THAT EVEN WITH THIS LAND USE CONTROL.
SO IF, UH, YOU LOOK AT OUR FIRE CODE AND STUFF, WE'RE ALLOWED TO REGULATE INSIDE CITY LIMITS, BUT NOT IN OUR E T J.
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BE, UH, NOT ALLOWED TO BE USED THERE.SO, UM, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THE REVISIONS THAT ARE, OR THE AMENDMENTS, THAT'S BEING, THAT THE AMENDMENT THAT'S BEING MADE IS STRIKING THE FIREWORKS LANGUAGE FROM YES, THE PROPOSED, WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED IN OUR PROPOSED U D C, UH, SECTION INCLUDED SOME OF THE LANGUAGE WE TYPICALLY USE WHEN WE ANNEX PROPERTIES.
UH, BUT WE ACTUALLY CANNOT USE THAT FIREWORKS CONTROLS LANGUAGE IN ANY AREA THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE CITY OF LIMITS.
SO THAT'S A STATE FIRE, THAT'S A STATE LAW ON FIREWORKS.
UH, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY, IT WOULD, IF IT, IF IT STAYS IN, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT ANYWAY.
SO IT'S IMMATERIAL, ESSENTIALLY.
THE LANGUAGE IS JUST NOT CO COMPATIBLE WITH STATE LAW.
ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT AMENDMENT FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE LAND USE PLANS THAT COME THROUGH? NO, NO.
IN THE FUTURE, WE WON'T INCLUDE THAT IN FUTURE LAND USE.
UM, THERE IS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.
UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AND THE MILITARY AND MEG AND EVERYBODY THAT HAS BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON THIS.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, I'M A VERY STAUNCH MILITARY SUPPORTER UP HERE ON THIS COUNCIL, AND, UM, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THE ECONOMIC VALUE TO SAN ANTONIO AND THE SURROUND AND THE STATE.
THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE INDUSTRY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND EMBRACE THE MILITARY HERE AND TRY TO GROW THE MILITARY.
AND WE CAN'T DO THAT IF WE CAN'T DO THE NECESSARY TRAINING AND EQUIPPING OF OUR, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE COMING IN HERE, WHETHER THEY'RE FROM THE ARMY, AIR FORCE, NAVY, MARINES, AND A LOT OF THAT TRAINING IS GOING ON AT CAMP BULLIS AND AT MEDINA.
SO WE NEED TO JUST ALWAYS BEAR IN MIND WHAT THE MILITARY BRINGS TO THE TABLE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT OUR, UH, COINED PHRASE IS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEASURE UP AND LIVE UP TO THOSE, UH, THOSE WORDS THAT, UH, WE KEEP SAYING OVER AND OVER ABOUT THE MILITARY.
SO I, I FULLY SUPPORT THIS AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING EVEN CLOSER WITH THE MILITARY THROUGH OUR M T T F, THAT WE DISCUSS A LOT OF THESE ISSUES AND DETAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN'T DOING ANYTHING THAT MIGHT HARM OR DEGRADE FROM THE MILITARY HERE LOCALLY.
AND, UM, WE WANT TO KEEP THOSE RELATIONS ON A GOOD FOOTING AND KEEP MOVING THAT TRAIN FURTHER DOWN THE LINE ON BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL MISSIONS HERE TO SAN ANTONIO.
COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.
AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN PERRY.
I WANTED TO ECHO HIS SENTIMENTS AS WELL.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO LACKLAND IS, UH, IN, IN D FOUR, THE GATEWAY TO THE AIR FORCE.
AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO TAKE SOME TIME TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS WORKING WITH US AND LETTING US KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, UH, THE ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE, UH, PRESENTED TO YOUR, UH, AIRMEN AND WOMEN.
AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO JUST, UH, SAY THAT THIS IS MILITARY CITY U S A, I'D LOVE WORK, LOVE WORKING WITH YOU ALL, AND, UH, IT IS ALWAYS MY PRIORITY TO KEEP THE SAFETY OF OUR AIR, WOMEN AND MEN, UH, IN, AT THE TOP OF MIND.
AND, UH, MORE IMPORTANTLY TO PROVIDE REALISTIC TRAINING FOR THEM.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROSA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.
THANK YOU MAYOR, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UM, AS A VETERAN THAT ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO TRAIN AT FORT SAM, I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IT MAKES WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE LIGHTS AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DO NIGHT VISION TRAINING WITH THOSE GOGGLES.
UM, SOMETIMES THAT LIGHT CAN BE VERY, UM, INTIMIDATING WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE GOGGLES ON AND YOU CAN'T SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING IN THOSE HUMVEES.
SO I KNOW MEDICAL TRAINING AND HAVING THE TREES TO TRULY PROTECT WHEN YOU'RE DOING, UH, MASH UNITS AND TRAUMA SET UP TRULY DOES MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.
AND I AM SO THANKFUL THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO RECOGNIZES THE TRUE IMPACT THAT THE MILITARY DOES MAKE ON OUR CITY ECONOMICALLY TRAINING WISE.
AND I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING ALL THAT WE AS A CITY AND AS JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO AND AS MILITARY CITY U S A, TRULY BRINGS TO THE TABLE AS WE CONTINUE TO PRODUCE ALL OF THE SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN THAT CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA, EXCUSE ME.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.
THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 37 A AND B.
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Z ONE.ITEM P ONE IS AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE LAND USE PLAN AS A COMPONENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN OF THE CITY FOR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
MILITARY PROTECTION AREAS LOCATED WITHIN FIVE MILES OF CAMP BULLIS, CAMP STANLEY AND LACKLAND AIR FORCE BASE, LACKLAND MEDINA TRAINING ANNEX IN THE E T J ITEM NUMBER Z ONE IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING DISTRICT BOUNDARY TO EXTEND THE AIRPORT HAZARD OVERLAY DISTRICT MILITARY LIGHTING OVERLAY DISTRICT MILITARY SOUND ATTENUATION OVERLAY DISTRICT AND EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE DISTRICT TO CERTAIN PROPERTY WITHIN FIVE MILES OF CAMP BULLIS, CAMP STANLEY AND LACKLAND AIR FORCE BASE, LACKLAND MEDINA TRAINING ANNEX IN THE PROPOSED E T J MILITARY PROTECTION AREAS IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF SAN ANTONIO.
MAYOR, IF I CAN JUST ADD TO THAT, STAFF AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON THIS ITEM.
THERE WERE 25,271 NOTICES MAILED 19 IN FAVOR WERE PROVIDED IN RESPONSE AND 200 OPPOSED.
WE DO HAVE SEVERAL CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS P ONE AND Z ONE.
I'D LIKE TO USE MY BACK TO ROSA.
OKAY, MR. NUKI, YOU'RE YIELDING YOUR TIME TO ROSA.
OKAY, MA'AM, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY MIKE STEWART.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND ALL PRESENT.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, EXPRESS MY OPINION.
THAT'S WHAT THE LETTER, UH, I RECEIVED.
I JUST, UH, PROBABLY NOT GONNA USE ALL THOSE MINUTES.
I WANNA SAY THAT, UM, THERE WAS A VOTE FOR ANNEXATION, UH, AGAINST, THERE WAS A 90% AVERAGE AGAINST, UH, THERE WAS NO OPTION ON, UH, AGREEING TO THE, UH, UH, REGULATIONS, WHICH WILL BE, UH, TO SUPPORT MILITARY MISSION, WHICH WE ALL FAR, I HAVE A FAMILY IN THE MILITARY HAD AND HAVE, AND HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IT.
HOWEVER, UH, I FEEL AS A HOMEOWNER IN THE AREA UNDER THE ANNEXATION AND ALSO PRESIDENT OF MY H H I LEFT OUT, OUT, OUT OF THE DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT KIND OF FEES, WHAT FOR WHAT THEY FOR GONNA BE THE AMOUNT, HOW THEY BASED.
UM, THERE WAS A, MY ATTEMPT TO, UH, GET SOME RESPONSE ABOUT THE FIREWORKS, IF THIS GONNA AFFECT US OR NOT, BECAUSE MY HA BENEFITS FROM SOME OF IT TO SUPPORT OUR, UH, EXPENSES.
SO OVERALL, I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR IT, BUT I FEEL THE LACK OF THE, UH, COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE WHO ARE THE MOST AFFECTED ON THE JULY, UH, MEETING, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, EXPRESS MY OPINION AND NONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL WAS WILLING TO TALK WITH ME BECAUSE OF COURSE I DID NOT VOTE FOR THEM.
SO, UH, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.
THAT WAS, THAT'S KIND OF A LOOSE QUOTE, THE PROBLEM OF MY AREA.
SO MY QUESTION IS, UH, HOW CAN PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANNA TALK WITH US CAN VOTE ON IMPOSING THOSE FEES AND FINES IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION? SO, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO SUPPORT THE MILITARY MISSION YET, UH, THAT'S MY POSITION.
AND I OPPOSED TO THE WAY THE, UH, THE WHOLE PROCESS WAS CONDUCTED, LEAVING US OUT AND JUST IMPOSING ON US.
THOSE FEES ARE THE FORM OF TAXATION.
SO, AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, THIS IS AGAINST THE TEXAS LAW IMPOSED TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY OPINION.
MIKE STEWART, FOLLOWED BY GLENDA HAYNES, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU ARE TRYING TO SUBJECT ME TO SOMETHING FOR WHICH I HAVE NO REPRESENTATION.
RUMOR HAS IT THAT WE FOUGHT A REVOLUTION OVER SOMETHING SIMILAR ABOUT THIS A FEW HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
NONETHELESS, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THE SKEPTICISM, WHICH MY COMMUNITY FEELS EVERY TIME THEY GET A LETTER FROM THE CITY
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OF SAN ANTONIO.WELL, A BUNCH OF MY NEIGHBORS ASKED ME TO COME DOWN HERE AND MAKE SURE YOU ALL REALIZE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AWAY WITH TAKING OUR RIGHTS AWAY.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND OUR SKEPTICISM.
FIRST, YOU SAID IT WAS FOR BETTER SERVICES, THEN YOU SAID IT WAS FOR, FOR US TO PAY OUR FAIR SHARE.
WHEN THOSE TACTICS FAILED, YOU SAID IT WAS FOR PROTECTING THE MILITARY MISSION.
YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT FOR MY COMMUNITY, WE DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY.
QUICK SHOW OF HANDS, WHO'S READ THE JOINT LAND USE STUDY? SO NOT MANY.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE JOINT LAND USE SAID? HE SAYS IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN FOR CAMP BULLIS AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD? CLEARLY YOU CAN'T.
WELL, IT'S LIGHT POLLUTION THAT COULD IMPACT NIGHT VISION TRAINING.
NEWSFLASH, WE'RE ALREADY SUBJECT TO THE DARK SKIES ORDINANCE.
ALL MY NEIGHBORS THINK THIS IS SOME BACKHAND ATTEMPT TO RETALIATE AGAINST US FOR PULLING THE PLUG ON YOUR ANNEXATION PLANS.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE JOINT LAND USE STUDY AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE MAKING GOOD POLICY.
BY THE WAY, WE LIKE DARK SKIES, LOW DENSITY.
WE SURE DON'T WANT THE RIM IN OUR BACKYARD.
I SUGGEST YOU FOCUS ON THE IMPACTS OF THE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTH AND EAST SIDE OF CAMP BULLIS WHEN CITY STAFF SAYS THE RIM IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A COMPATIBLE LAND USE.
WE DO NOT WANT THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN OUR PART OF THE COUNTY.
WE BELIEVE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I TELL PEOPLE THAT MOST OF THE DISCUSSION IS VERY MUCH ALIGNED TO WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTS.
BUT AGAIN, MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ARE SKEPTICAL OF ANYTHING YOU SAY.
WE STRUGGLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT THESE REGULATIONS REALLY MEAN.
I KNOW IF YOU DON'T DEVELOP YOUR PROPERTY, THERE'S NO IMPACT.
BUT WHAT IF I DO? WHAT ABOUT PROTECTING PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS? LET ME ASK A COUPLE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES THAT I'D LIKE ANSWERS TO WHEN I GO BACK TO MY COMMUNITY TONIGHT.
SO THERE'S A GREEN AREA ON RALPH FAIR ROAD THAT'S AGRICULTURAL ON THE MAP THAT WE WERE PROVIDED.
LET'S SAY MY COMMUNITY WANTS TO PUT A FIRE STATION THERE.
WILL YOU LET US DO THAT? CLEARLY A FIRE STATION'S NOT AGRICULTURAL, BUT DO KEEP IN MIND, TEXAS A AND M TRAINS A LOT OF FIREFIGHTERS AND THAT'S AN AGRICULTURAL SCHOOL.
MY SECOND EXAMPLE, SAY THE LANDOWNER WANTS TO PUT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THAT APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE AREN'T AGRICULTURAL.
HE HAS THAT RIGHT TO DO THAT TODAY.
WILL HE HAVE THAT, THAT RIGHT TO DO THAT TOMORROW? THESE ARE QUESTIONS I'D LIKE ANSWERED.
YOU GUYS HAVE TO SEE WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
MY NEIGHBORS ARE VERY SKEPTICAL.
THANK YOU, MR. PLEASE GIVE US SOME ANSWERS.
MS. HAYNES, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY FRANCIS BOOKER.
YES, I LIVE IN THE, UH, CAMP BULLIS, CAMP STANLEY AREA OFF I 10 WEST.
AND I THINK EVERYONE THERE SUPPORTS THE MILITARY.
I COME FROM A LONG LINE OF, UH, MILITARY, UM, INCLUDING A SON WHO SERVED IN AFGHANISTAN.
SO WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE MILITARY.
WHAT WE DO WANNA POINT OUT IS IN THE JOINT LAND USE STUDY, THE ONLY CONCERN FOR THE CAMP BULLIS, CAMP STANLEY AREA WAS LIGHTING AND THERE'S ALREADY THE BEAR COUNTY DARK SKIES ORDINANCE, WHICH ALREADY APPLIES TO US AND WHICH WE ALREADY FOLLOW.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO NOT WANT, UM, ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS, FINES, AND FEES.
UH, AS THE LADY BEFORE ME MENTIONED, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO FOR A VOTE.
IT WAS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, PICK THE LESSER OF THE EVILS AND I THINK IT WAS 97% VOTED AGAINST ANNEXATION, BUT THERE WAS NO OTHER OPTION BUT TO VOTE FOR OPTION TWO.
AND JUST TO REMIND YOU AGAIN, UH, THE JOINT LAND USE STUDY, WHICH IS WHAT GIVES ANY LEGAL RIGHT TO IMPOSE ANY, UM, RESTRICTIONS FOR OUR AREA CAMP CAMP STANLEY, THE ONLY, UM, CONCERNED IS LIGHTING AND NOTHING ELSE.
THANK YOU MS. HAYNES, FRANCIS BOOKER.
MS. BOOKER, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY JAY RUSSELL.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR NUREMBERG AND CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES.
MY NAME'S FRANCIS BOOKER, MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE IN THE THREE TO FIVE MILE RADIUS OF CAMP BULLIS.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EACH OF YOU.
HOW MANY OF YOU OVER THE YEARS HA HAVE EVER PROTESTED YOUR TAXES? SO IF YOU HAVEN'T, YOU'RE MISSING OUT ON A VERY ENLIGHTENING EXPERIENCE, WE PROTEST OUR TAXES ANNUALLY BECAUSE THERE'S USUALLY ALWAYS AN INCREASE
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AND WE WANNA KNOW WHERE OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT.SOMETIMES THE LAND VALUE INCREASES, SOMETIMES IT'S THE IMPROVEMENT THAT INCREASES, BUT IT NEVER FALLS ANY KIND OF LOGIC AS TO HOW THE NUMBERS ARE DERIVED.
I'VE CREATED MANY A SPREADSHEET, COMPARABLE INFORMATION TO PRESENT, BUT IT'S ALWAYS TO NO AVAIL.
SO THE MAP THAT YOU SENT OUT WITH THE LETTER BASICALLY SAYS, I HAVE TWO PROBLEMS WITH THIS MAP.
IT SAYS CAMP BULLIS LAND USE CONTROLS.
AND IT LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO THE MAP IN THE J A S ON PAGE TWO DASH 31 THAT SAYS CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING.
SO IT'S VERY, VERY CLOSE TO ZONING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CALLED LAND USE CONTROLS.
THE OPTION TWO, BASICALLY IN THIS B SIX STATES THAT IT'S A THREE TO FIVE MILE RADIUS.
THIS IS JUST OUR QUADRANT, THE THREE TO FIVE MILE RADIUS.
IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE THE PLATTING OF THE THREE TO FIVE MILE RADIUS AS IT EXISTS TODAY WITH THE DENSITY.
THAT'S A LOT OF IT ALREADY IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER THING THAT BOTHERS ME ON THIS MAP, AND IT'S THIS BOX RIGHT HERE THAT SAYS, CITY COUNCIL COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MAP, WHICH INCLUDE LOWER OR HIGHER DENSITY LAND USE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THERE'S A LOT OF LOW DENSITY ON THIS MAP, BUT WHAT'S TO PREVENT ADJUSTMENTS FOR HIGH DENSITY LAND USE, LIKE EXISTS IN THE SOUTHEAST AREA, THE SO AREA AND THE SOUTHWEST AREA BY THE RIM TO ALL OF A SUDDEN BE CHANGED.
AND SINCE THIS QUADRANT IS NOT REPRESENTED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WHY AREN'T THE RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS INCLUDED TO BE PART OF THESE ADJUSTMENT DECISIONS IN THE J LUS? OUR QUADRANT WAS NEVER AN AREA OF CONCERN.
THE AREA, OUR, OUR QUADRANT IS UP HERE, THE AREA OF CONCERNS WERE ALL THE WAY AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT NEXT TO THE RIM OVER BY TIMBERWOOD PARK.
MY HUSBAND AND I CAN BE MUCH BETTER STEWARDS OF OUR LAND JUICE THAN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
I'M A RESIDENT OF WEST BEAR COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY.
COOL CREST, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
I, UH, COMMUNICATED WITH, UH, THIS GENTLEMAN JOHN STEEN, AND HE SAID TODAY WAS TO TALLY FAVOR OUR OPPOSITION.
I DON'T OPPOSE THIS, THIS, I, I THINK THESE ARE NOBLE GOALS TO REDUCE LIGHTING.
MY GIRLS LOVE TREES, SO I, I DON'T, I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY WE'RE OPPOSED TO THAT.
THE MECHANISM TO CARRY THIS OUT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY SOMEBODY OTHER THAN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
I DON'T REMEMBER EVER SEEDING AWAY MY AUTHORITY AS A BEXAR COUNTY RESIDENT TO ANYBODY IN SAN ANTONIO.
UH, I HAVE RENTAL PROPERTIES IN SAN ANTONIO.
I HAVE SEVERAL AND I ADHERE STRICTLY TO THE REGULATIONS THEY HAVE THERE.
AND I PAY TAXES AS A GOOD CITIZEN, THE 84% OPPOSITION IN OUR AREA.
AND THEN IN THE, UH, OTHER AREA, I 10 WAS 96% OPPOSITION IS A CLEAR MANDATE THAT WE CHOSE TO LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND WE CHOSE TO BE GOVERNED BY COUNTY, UH, COUNTY LAWS AND REGULATIONS.
WE ENJOY SAN ANTONIO AND THEY'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THE BINARY CHOICE THAT Y'ALL PRESENTED TO EITHER OPPOSE, ANNEXATION OR APPROVE ANNEXATION CAME WITH A CAVEAT THAT WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THESE REGULATIONS AS A MEMBER OF A A MILITARY FAMILY.
A MILITARY FAMILY, AND ALSO AS GOOD U S S A CITIZENS, I THINK ALL OF US SUPPORT THE MILITARY.
MY OWN POP TOOK A MORTAR FRAGMENT IN THE EYE OVER OVER BLAKE COUP.
SO I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY WE DON'T SUPPORT THE MILITARY.
TO BE QUITE HONEST, THIS EROSION OF OUR RIGHTS FROM THE, FROM THE, FROM THE COUNTY IS PRESENT ALSO IN OUR SA BILL, WHICH TAKES 5% AND GIVES IT TO THE SAN ANTONIO REVENUE FUND AND THE C P S ENERGY FUND, C P S
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ENERGY MONTHLY BILL ALSO TAKES 14% OF THAT AND PUTS IT STRAIGHT IN THE SAN ANTONIO REVENUE FUND.I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU CALL IT, THAT'S A SAN ANTONIO TALK TAX.
THEREBY WE'RE HAVING TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
AND AS THE LADY SPOKE WITH, WE HAVE NOBODY HERE ON THIS COUNCIL THAT CAN HELP US IDENTIFY OR TALK TO.
WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES.
SO WE'RE CAUGHT IN A CONUNDRUM.
SO I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THE, UH, SLOW EROSION, THESE THINGS ARE NOT MUTUAL EXCLUSIVE.
THE SLOW EROSION OF OUR RIGHTS AS COUNTY RESIDENTS IS OCCURRING BEFORE OUR EYES.
AND I'M WITH THE GENTLEMAN BACK HERE.
I'M NOT REAL HAPPY ABOUT IT, BUT I'M NOT HERE TO SIT THERE AND AND RAIL ABOUT IT.
YOU ALL HAVE A VERY GOOD MISSION IN MIND.
BUT AS MARCH 2ND, 1836 PROVES WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE UP OUR RIGHTS WITHOUT A FIGHT.
UM, ACTUALLY I'M INTERESTED IN THE ANSWER TO ONE OF THE GENTLEMAN'S QUESTIONS.
UH, HE'S GOT A FRIEND DOWN THE ROAD WHO OWNS A PLOT OF LAND AND YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS, IS WOULD HE BE ABLE TO, IF APPROPRIATE, UM, PUT A FIRE STATION THERE? WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT? YEAH, THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES, PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES ARE ALLOWED IN ANY OF THE LAND USE CATEGORIES.
UH, SO THAT WOULD BE A SIMPLE YES.
UM, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE P ONE WITH AMENDMENTS, UM, TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE CATEGORY FOR ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY, IN PARTICULAR PROPERTY ID 2 4 8 0 4 1 FROM RESIDENTIAL ESTATE TO NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE.
UM, AND I I'M GONNA ASK THE SAME QUESTION AGAIN.
UH, WHAT IS THAT AND WHY ARE WE DOING IT? SO THE, THIS ONE I UNDERSTAND, UM, IS A CHANGE THAT IS REQUESTED FOR A PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAD, WAS NOT AT THE TABLE WITH US WHEN WE WERE NEGOTIATING AND HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
UH, WHEN WE WERE DOING THESE THROUGH, UM, ALL THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND EVALUATING 'EM, THEY, THEY CAME TO THE TABLE AFTER WE WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED HERE WHERE CATHERINE IS IDENTIFYING ON THE MAP, UM, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE LAND USE.
AND, AND CAN YOU, UH, TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT IT, WHAT THE CITY STAFF PROPOSED IT AND WHAT IT'S BEING REQUESTED TO BE? THE PROPOSED, UM, WAS RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AND THEY'RE REQUESTING NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, WHICH IS, UM, MORE DENSE DENSITY INCREASES.
AND AND DID THAT CONVERSATION GO THROUGH JOINT BASE? THE MILITARY IS AWARE AND THEY WERE, UM, A PART OF THE CONVERSATION, I BELIEVE WHEN THE APPLICANT HAD, UH, REQUESTED THIS.
UM, NOT OPPOSED GENERAL YALA, COULD YOU? YES.
UH, ALL THE, THE REQUIREMENTS OR ALL THE REQUESTS, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT COME THROUGH, UH, JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO, AND I DON'T RECALL THEM BEING THAT PARTICULAR ONE BEING OPPOSED.
SO BASICALLY THEY, THEY DID NOTIFY US ABOUT A WEEK AGO TO LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS.
WE WOULD'VE LOOKED AT IT AND WE WOULD'VE IDENTIFIED BASED ON THE LAND USE THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE OPPOSED TO IT.
SO THEREFORE WE'RE NOT OPPOSING TO THE USE.
NOW WHAT WE'VE DONE, I, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS EVERY TIME A LANDOWNER OR DEVELOPER COMES TO US, WE HAVE GONE TO THE TABLE AND DISCUSSED POTENTIAL NEGOTIATIONS.
AND THIS, WHAT THEY WANTED WAS MORE DENSE AND THIS WAS WHAT WE AGREED TO.
AND THE STAFF PROPOSAL, OR NO SIR, A PROPERTY OWNER, A LANDOWNER, PROPOSED THIS CHANGE.
CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID AGAIN, MEG? I'M SORRY.
SO WHAT WE DID IS THE LANDOWNER PROPOSED A HIGHER DENSITY AND WE CAME BACK AND SAID, NO, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD AGREE ON.
AND SO THE AMENDMENT IS THE COMPROMISE THAT YOU YES, SIR.
WELL, IT GIVES ME EXTRAORDINARY PAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN RIGHT NOW.
UM, I'M NOT GOING TO JUMP IN FRONT OF IT IF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO OCCUR HAVE OCCURRED.
UM, BUT THIS IS ABOUT PROTECTING OUR MILITARY BASES AND PART OF THE REASON FOR DOING THIS IS THAT WE WANT TO LIMIT DENSITY.
WE'RE GONNA LIMIT DEVELOPMENT AND OVERGROWTH THAT'S ENCROACHING ONTO THE BASIS.
UM, ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE EXIST IN THE E T J ARE GREAT, UM, BUT THIS IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE MILITARY.
AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, I I SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE OPPOSED TO ANNEXATION UP THERE.
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WHAT I DON'T AGREE IS THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO LET IT HAPPEN.UM, WE MAY NOT AGREE ON THAT, MIKE, BUT I DO AGREE, OR, OR I DO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO NEEDS TO DO WHAT IT CAN AND WHAT THE LEGISLATURE PROVIDES US FOR TO PROTECT THE BASES.
AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
IF THERE IS ANOTHER, UH, UH, PROCESS BY WHICH WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE, PERHAPS AS WE'VE SUGGESTED THAT THE COUNTY THAT REPRESENTS YOU GAINS THOSE AUTHORITIES, WE WOULD BE FULL SUPPORT.
UM, BUT THIS IS NOT TO LIMIT ANYONE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.
THIS IS NOT TO LIMIT THE ABILITY FOR THE COMMUNITIES TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.
THIS IS NOT TO IMPOSE ANY TAXES.
IN FACT, THE ONLY FEES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE REGULATIONS ARE TO ENFORCE, UH, THE VERY RULES THAT WE ALL AGREE ON ARE PROTECTING OUR MILITARY INSTALLATION.
I DO WISH WE CAN, UM, THESE AMENDMENTS, WE GET TO 'EM WAY AHEAD OF TIME.
UM, BUT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT VOTE AND I I FULLY SUPPORT IT.
UH, IF THIS AMENDMENT HADN'T BEEN APPROVED, IS THERE A MECHANISM FOR A LANDOWNER TO STILL TRY AND MAKE SOME CHANGES IN THEIR LAND USE? YES, SIR.
THEY WOULD FOLLOW THE EXISTING PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY.
SO THEY WOULD, UH, SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT.
IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT WOULD COME TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
YEAH, I JUST HAVE A, A DIFFICULT TIME CARVING OUT AN EXCEPTION FOR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS.
UH, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S THIS IS.
AND I WONDER HOW MANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO MAYBE DIDN'T INDIVIDUALLY COME UP AND SAY, HEY, WE'D LIKE AN EXCEPTION, HOW THEY'RE GONNA FEEL ABOUT THIS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M INCLINED TO VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW IF THERE'S A MECHANISM THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN USE IN THE FUTURE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND ARRIVE AT, AT THEIR GOAL.
THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCILMAN OR
UM, SO I UNDERSTAND, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FOR THAT COMMENT.
AND, UH, WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, WE CERTAINLY WOULD'VE LIKED THIS THAT TO HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP EARLIER, THIS INDIVIDUAL, LIKE MANY OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS DID.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND THIS ACTUALLY PROPERTY DOES HAVE, UH, AN UNDERLYING PERMIT THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH SAWS, UH, TO EXTEND, UH, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A VESTING DOCUMENT.
SO I THINK WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES THERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY TO THAT.
BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE, WE WANTED TO ENSURE WE SET THE GROUND RULES UP VERY EARLY ON.
UM, CERTAINLY HAD THEY COME EARLIER, I THINK THEY WOULD'VE JUST BEEN PART OF THE NORMAL, UH, PROCESS AND WOULDN'T HAVE NEEDED THIS AMENDMENT.
BUT, UH, BUT WE DID LOOK AT IT AS STAFF AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE, UM, AND, AND I KNOW THE MILITARY J B SS A ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.
UH, ARE THEY, ARE THEY A VESTED PROPERTY TO SOMEWHAT ANYWAY WITH A VALID UH, PERMIT? AND THE ANSWER IS J THE ANSWER IS YES.
SO, AND I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE OBJECTING IF WE KNEW ABOUT THIS AHEAD OF TIME INSTEAD OF ON THE, I TOTALLY AGREE.
UM, SO THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS P ONE AND Z ONE AS P ONE AMENDED.
UH, SO THERE IS ONE VOTE, UH, AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT NOW.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM Z SEVEN Z SEVEN FROM C ONE TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A BAR AND OR TAVERN WITHOUT A COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK LOCATED AT TWO 17 CASABLANCA STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
12 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED.
GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE IS OPPOSED.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUATION OF THIS UNTIL OCTOBER 3RD.
UM, IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PHRASE THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT VOTE.
UH, HAVE A CONTINUATION OF THIS UNTIL, UNTIL OCTOBER 3RD FOR Z SEVEN.
UM, THERE IS A MOTION AND A IS, WAS THERE A SECOND AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM Z SEVEN TO OCTOBER 3RD, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES ITEM Z NINE Z NINE IS FROM A E TWO TO I D Z WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 6 0 3 AND 6 0 7 MONTANA STREET.
STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
38 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.
DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.
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THE, UM, APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH DENVER HEIGHTS TO COME UP WITH A BETTER COMPROMISE.SO WE ARE, UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL OCTOBER 19TH.
OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM Z NINE TO OCTOBER 17TH.
MOTION CARRIES ITEM Z 15 Z 15 FROM I ONE TO C TWO C D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO SALE VEHICLE SALES LOCATED AT 1918 WEST COMMERCE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS DENIAL.
20 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR WHEN OPPOSED.
HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DENIAL OF ITEM Z 15.
MOTION CARRIES ITEM Z 22 FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WITHOUT COVER CHARGE FOR THREE OR MORE DAYS A WEEK.
22 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED.
I MOVE TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 3RD.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS E 22 TO OCTOBER 3RD.
YES, THERE WAS A SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES ITEM Z 23 Z 23 FROM R FOUR TO R M FOUR LOCATED AT 25 43 CINCINNATI AVENUE, 25 45 CINCINNATI AVENUE, 25 47 AND 25 49 CINCINNATI AVENUE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
UNIVERSITY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO JERRY FOR STICKING IT OUT AND, UH, STAYING HERE TILL THE
UM, AND I JUST WANNA SAY WE HAD ALL THIS DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT DENSITY AND PEOPLE NOT WANTING DENSITY AND MR. AO IS ADDING TWO DUPLEXES WHERE TWO ALREADY EXIST FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WELCOMING THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT OUT OF SCALE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT STILL ALLOWS US TO USE THE RESOURCES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, THE STREETS, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY THERE TO SERVE JUST A FEW MORE PEOPLE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT THAN WE COULD HAVE OTHERWISE.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT PROJECT FORWARD AND I MOVE TO APPROVE.
HEY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM Z 23.
THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS ON OUR ZONING AGENDA TODAY.