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ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES STATEMENT, PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

WE WANNA START.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I AM THE CHAIR FOR ONE MORE TIME OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN'S ZONING COMMISSIONER.

I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.

THE TIME IS 2 0 2 WAIT, 1 0 2 ROMAN NUMERALS.

SORRY.

ALRIGHT, I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.

MARCO BARRO, DISTRICT NINE, JOHN BUSTA, DISTRICT FIVE.

DANIEL KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10.

TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO.

JANELLE CHASE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

GEORGE OSA.

DISTRICT THREE.

EDDIE RE IS DISTRICT FOUR.

KEN HUE DISTRICT SIX STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT.

YES, THE QUORUM IS PRESENT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.

THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.

YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE SEE YOUR CASE MANAGER.

STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.

PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.

PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.

FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED IN TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.

YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.

YOU WILL BE INFORMED WHEN YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.

THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH ANY OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

[Zoning Items  ]

IF WE COULD GO OVER THE LIST OF ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS PLEASE.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE POSTPONED.

OUR FIRST LOCATED AT 1316 AUSTIN STREET AND OUR SECOND ONE LOCATED AT 24 35 FREO CITY ROAD.

ALRIGHT, FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, THOSE THOSE ITEMS WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY AS, AS THEY ARE POSTPONED AND YOU WILL BE RE NOTIFIED IF OR WHEN, UM, FURTHER ACTION ON THOSE ITEMS OCCUR.

SO YOU ARE FREE TO ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL DAY OUTSIDE.

SO THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD GO OVER THE LIST OF, ON THE COMBINED HEARING, NUMBER ONE PLEASE.

ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON CONSENT ARE ITEMS SEVEN, NINE, AND 10.

ALRIGHT, ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO MOVE ONE OF THESE ITEMS DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

IF WE COULD READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 TO OFFICE 1.5 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 8 25 EAST BASSEY ROAD.

14 NOTICES WERE SENT.

FOUR RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE OAK PARK NEIGHBOR NORTHWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION.

ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 TO C TWO NA CD WITH

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A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE FLEX SPACE GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 4,400 BLOCK OF BLUE MILL ROAD.

18 NOTICES WERE SENT, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I TWO TWO L WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 39 35 NORTH PANAM EXPRESSWAY.

15 NOTICES WERE SENT.

ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND WE DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE THREE ITEMS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WELL, WITH THAT, UM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THESE THREE ITEMS. MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN, NINE AND TEN SECOND.

THAT MOTION? ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN, NINE, AND 10 A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.

ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT.

SEEING NONE.

LOOKING RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER WHITSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THOSE ITEMS WILL NOW BE PROCEEDING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO IF YOU WERE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR THOSE ITEMS, UH, YOU ARE ALSO FREE TO TO LEAVE AND ENJOY THE SUNNY WEATHER OUTSIDE.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR ONLY CONTINUANCE ITEM.

SO ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE FEBRUARY 18TH MEETING.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION FOR THESE ITEM? FOR THAT? THIS ITEM? SORRY, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO CONTINUE.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO THE FEBRUARY 18TH MEETING.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE TO THE FEBRUARY 18TH MEETING WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.

ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT.

SEEING NONE.

LOOKING RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WITS? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE WILL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.

ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING.

IT APPEARS ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE FIRST ONE UP.

IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

ALEX RATANA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS LOCATED AT 3 2 7 FAIR DRIVE GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 29 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.

NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY AND OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET, NO RESPONSE.

THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS IS NOT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED.

R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, MANY OF WHICH BENEFIT FROM THE BETA R FOUR CONVERSION, WHICH PERMITS A DUPLEX.

THE PROPOSED FOUR DWELLING UNITS WOULD INTRODUCE A DENSITY INCONSISTENT WITH THE AREA.

THE LOT SIZE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 12,300 SQUARE FEET, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY SUPPORT UP TO THREE LOTS IF SUBDIVIDED UNDER THE CURRENT R FOUR ZONING.

THUS, STAFF RECOMMENDS AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS.

THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY WHICH WOULD UTILIZE THE CURRENT STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

HI, UM, SIR , I'M THE APPLICANT.

UM, I PRESENTED LAST TIME REGARDING THE LOW INCOME ACCESSIBLE HOUSING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD ON THE SITE AS WELL, WHICH IS WHY THE FOUR WOULD HELP US.

UH, MOST OF THE POINTS THAT WERE ADDRESSED, UM, LAST TIME I WAS HERE WAS OUTREACH.

SO WE WENT AHEAD, UH,

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AND SPOKE TO SAUL RAS ON OH, REGARDING THE TOPIC HE SUGGESTED WE DO ANOTHER ROUND OF MAIL OUTS.

THIS TIME WE PUT A LITTLE DIGITAL TWIST ONTO IT.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND PROVIDED MORE CONTEXT AND ACTUALLY UPLOADED A VIDEO TO YOUTUBE EXPLAINING THE ENTIRE PROCESS THAT WE'RE PLANNING AND WHY IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT I GAVE TO YOU GUYS.

WE PUT IT UP IN A MORE PODCAST, UH, STYLE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE ALSO PROVIDED A MEDIUM FOR THEM TO GO AHEAD AND LEAVE US SOME FEEDBACK IN CASE UH, THEY HAD ANYTHING AND WE HAD NO RESPONSES TO FORWARD BACK, BUT WE DID MAIL OUT FOUR LETTERS.

UM, ADDITIONALLY ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS THE, THE PARKING WE WENT AHEAD ALSO INQUIRED ABOUT THAT THE ENGINEER ON THEY TOLD US MIGHT BE PRESENT HERE, THAT THAT WOULD BE NOT AN ISSUE AND THAT THEY WOULD ALSO AGREE WITH, UH, WITH ADDING THE, THE ADDITIONAL PARKING THERE AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND JUST TO KIND OF ON, UH, HIS COMMENT ABOUT WITH DSD ENGINEER AND TRAFFIC, WE DID SPEAK WITH, UM, ONE OF OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND THEY ARE OKAY WITH THE POTENTIAL, UH, PARKING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO IT COMES TO ME.

SO I WANT TO, UH, THANK YOU FOR, FOR REACHING OUT.

I TALKED WITH, UH, UH, THE, THE ZONING STAFF AT, AT FOR DISTRICT SEVEN AND, UH, UM, UH, SAUL WAS VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF YOUR OUTREACH, UM, MENTIONING THE PODCAST AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THAT AREA IS KIND OF DORMANT, BEEN A LITTLE DORMANT FOR A COUPLE YEARS.

UM, SO, UM, WE'VE ALSO HAD TROUBLE REACHING OUT TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ASSOCIATION.

BUT, UM, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR, UM, FOR DOING THAT.

I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SO I WILL OPEN IT UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

SO LOOKING FOR QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

NONE.

ALRIGHT, WELL, UM, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE STAFF'S RESPONSES AND, AND THEIR RATIONALE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, USUALLY I WOULD, I WOULD COMPLETELY AGREE WITH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S X AMOUNT SQUARE FOOT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, R FOUR, YOU COULD DO THREE LOTS.

THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE.

YOU, YOU KNOW, THREE.

SO RECOMMENDATION FOR THREE MAKES COMPLETE SENSE.

UM, IN THIS CASE, SINCE IT'S ON A CORNER LOT, I ALWAYS, IT, I ALWAYS END UP GIVING BONUS DENSITY, IT SEEMS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO CORNER LOTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD, I WOULD BE MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL, BUT SINCE IT'S AT THE CORNER, THERE'S ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES, UM, I THINK FOR, FOR DENSITY TO HAPPEN THERE.

SO I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR FOUR UNITS.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY ME WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON DISCUSSION, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.

UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, UM, IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF THE THREE LOT ISSUE.

UM, THE THREE LOTS WOULD GIVE YOU POTENTIALLY UP TO SIX UNITS.

AND SO FOUR STILL IS LESSER DENSITY THAN THERE.

UM, THE CORNER ISSUE RAISED BY CHAIR SIPES IS ALSO, UH, SOMETHING THAT DOES WEIGH HEAVILY WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THESE KINDS OF USES.

UM, ONE THING THAT I BROUGHT UP AT LAST MEETING, AND I STILL WANT YOU TO INQUIRE ABOUT IS MOVING THAT DRIVEWAY FROM THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THAT ENTRY SIDEWALK TO THE RIGHT.

UH, AGAIN, 'CAUSE I THINK IT MAKES IT MORE IN LINE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

MM-HMM .

UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU GO DOWN THAT STREET, YOU SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THE GARAGE REMAINS, THE DRIVEWAY STILL KIND OF IS A LITTLE BIT FARTHER FROM THE CORNER AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD THING, BUT WE'RE NOT MANDATING THAT.

BUT I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSION ON MY LEFT.

NONE.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

NONE.

AND I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I COMPLETELY FORGOT BECAUSE YES.

UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE TRAFFIC.

THE, THE PATTERN IS THAT, THAT IT'S, UM, A LOT OF THE HOMES EITHER HAD A GARAGE IN THE BACK AND SO YOU HAD THE, THE, THE, THE, THE DRIVE WAS MORE ON THE SIDE.

RIGHT? YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT RIGHT.

WHERE YOU'RE SHOWING IT LIKE THAT.

SO YES, IF

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YOU COULD MOVE IT TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT WALK, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

BUT MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ ENTERED THE BOARDROOM AT 1:09 PM OH, THANK YOU.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER OSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WHIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME'S ALDO GOMEZ, SENIOR SONY PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED AT 1 1 0 0 6 BAND DETA ROAD GOING FROM C TWO N, A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT AND R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO C ONE CD LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE FLEX SPACE.

THERE WERE 25 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ZERO IN FAVOR.

ZERO, UH, SORRY.

ZERO IN FAVOR WITHIN 200 FEET.

ZERO IN FAVOR.

OUTSIDE 200 FEET.

ONE OPPOSED? WITHIN 200 AND ZERO OPPOSED OUTSIDE.

THERE'S NO NA PRESENT IN THE AREA.

WITHIN 200 FEET, STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE ARE ZONE R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR EQUIPMENT STORAGE AND OUTSIDE STORAGE AND DISPLAY AND C TWO A AND COMMERCIAL NON ACHOLIC SALES DISTRICT.

THE EXISTING C TWO A COMMERCIAL NON ACHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IN R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED C ONE CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE, FLEX PLACE IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

THERE ARE ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE DEVELOPMENT ALONG WITH THE ANNE FRANK CONSPIRED ACADEMY WITHIN PROXIMITY, THE INTRODUCTION OF THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE WOULD PERMIT FURTHER INDUSTRIAL ENCROACHMENT ALONG A MIXED USE CORRIDOR OF RESIDENTIAL, RELATIVELY LOW INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M AL CARROLL AT TRITECH ENGINEERING.

UM, I GUESS WE'RE WORKING ON BEHALF OF ADE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL BASED ON THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING OF OUR NEIGHBORING LOTS.

UM, AS HE DID NOTE, WE'RE NEXT TO AN EQUIPMENT COMPANY AND THE ANNE FRANK SCHOOL THERE.

UM, OUR POTENTIAL TENANTS THAT WE'RE, WELL, I GUESS AIMING TO, TO TRY TO BRING IN ARE, UH, KIND MORE SCHOOL, SCHOOL BASED, UH, GYMNASTICS HVAC EQUIPMENT, UM, USES THAT WOULD, THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD ALSO HELP TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL THERE.

SO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SORRY, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT PROPOSED LAYOUT.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT.

ALRIGHT.

RIGHT.

THIS IS ALSO A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE, SO IT COMES TO ME AS WELL.

UM, CAN I ASK YOU, SO YOU WERE SHOWING ACCESS TO, UM, BEARING LANE AS WELL, CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, HAVE YOU, WHAT KIND OF OUTREACH HAVE YOU DONE TO EITHER THE, THE, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THERE OR THE, UM, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX OR TO THE DISTRICT SEVEN OFFICE? HAVE YOU GOTTEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM? UM, I KNOW OUR, OUR, OUR CLIENT DID REACH OUT AND WE HAVE, UH, COMMUNITY SUPPORT LETTERS FROM THE EQUIPMENT COMPANY NEXT TO US.

OKAY.

FROM LISA SOLAR, UM, MR. KRUEGER.

UM, AND THEN, SO WE, WE DID REACH OUT TO TO, TO THE NEIGHBORS THERE.

OKAY.

SO, ALRIGHT, THANKS.

UM, LET ME OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS.

SO COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER TSET, I THINK IT FOLLOWS ALONG THE LINES THAT YOU HAD, UH, ABOUT THE ACCESS TO THE STREET ON THE BACK.

UM, ARE THERE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ACCESS THE STREET BACK THERE?

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AND COULD Y'ALL DO THIS WITHOUT THAT ACCESS? UM, WE PROBABLY COULD.

IT, IT, I GUESS IT BECOMES A FIRE ISSUE KIND OF AT THAT POINT.

WE COULD ALWAYS MAKE IT LIKE AN EMERGENCY EXIT ENTRANCE FOR, FOR FIRE PURPOSES IF, IF NEEDED.

SO ARE YOU, ARE YOU AWARE OF THE PRO THE OTHER GROUP SUPPORTING YOU? DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE LANE BACK THERE ALSO? UM, HONESTLY, I'M, I'M NOT, NOT SURE IF THEY DO OR NOT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

THANK YOU.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON ACCESS, THAT'S AN EXISTING DRIVE OFF OF, UH, BANDERA.

YES.

YES SIR.

SO IT'LL REMAIN RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT.

NO, NO OTHER CHANGES, CORRECT.

CORRECT.

SAME LOCATION.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ON MY RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, THIS IS KIND OF A, FOR ME, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT DECISION, UM, BECAUSE I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

UM, THE, AND I KNOW THE EQUIPMENT COMPANY THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

THE LAWN EQUIPMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT, THAT, THAT BUSINESS HAS BEEN THERE FOR AT LEAST SINCE THE EIGHTIES.

UM, AND I DO TEND TO AGREE WITH, UH, CITY STAFF.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS ON BANDERA HAS BEEN TO TRY AND KEEP MORE LOW SCALE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS YOU LIMIT IT TO EMERGENCY EXIT ONLY.

UM, I JUST DON'T SEE THIS AS A GOOD FIT FOR RIGHT IN THAT AREA.

UM, AND SO I'M GONNA GO ALONG WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND MAKE A, A MOTION FOR DENIAL.

I'LL SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY ME WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.

DISCUSSION.

LOOKING LEFT.

SEEING NONE.

LOOKING RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO.

COMMISSIONER HUEY? NO.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? NO.

COMMISSIONER WHATSUP? NO.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? NO.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND I KNOW THIS IS, THIS IS USUALLY WHEN, UH, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA JUMPS IN AND SAYS, JUST A REMINDER, WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL DECISION MAKING ON, ON, ON THESE CASES.

COOL.

SO THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

RIGHT.

DID I ENTER, DID I TAKE YOUR SPOT? ALRIGHT, GOOD.

I'M PREPARING FOR WHEN I'M GONNA BE SITTING DOWN THERE.

THIS IS WHAT I'M DOING.

ALRIGHT.

UM, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE.

WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATE, OH, SORRY.

OH, SORRY.

THERE YOU GO.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 1 9 5 2 9 APPLEWHITE ROAD REQUESTING GOING FROM FR FARM AND RANCH DISTRICT TO LS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR STORAGE OUTSIDE OPEN WITH NO SCREENING REQUIRED.

THERE WERE 12 NOTICES SENT OUT.

ZERO IN FAVOR WITHIN 200 FEET.

ZERO IN FAVOR.

OUTSIDE 200 FEET.

ONE OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.

TWO OPPOSED OUTSIDE.

200 FEET.

THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTERED WITHIN 200 FEET.

STAFF DOES FIND LIKELY EVIDENCE FOR ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE FR FARM AND RANCH DISTRICT.

I ONE MIXED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

THE EXISTING FR FARM AND RANCH DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE

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PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED LS LINE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR STORAGE OUTSIDE OPEN WITH NO SCREENING CARD IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

THE PROPERTY IS ABUTTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AND HAVING NO SCREENING WITH NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR WELFARE.

ALTHOUGH THE STORAGE USE IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER, THE LOTS ARE CONSIDERABLY LARGER, RANGING FROM 21 TO 25 ACRES.

THE AREA IS DESIGNATED FOR INDUSTRIAL OR FARMING USES AND THERE IS AN EXISTING OUTDOOR STORAGE OUT WITHIN PROXIMITY.

THEREFORE, STAFFS ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PROPERTIES.

LS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR STORES OUTSIDE SCREENING FROM PUBLIC ROADS AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES REQUIRED.

SO THERE IS SCREENING FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO HELP MITIGATE THE IMPACTS.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS IS, UH, GERALDO.

CAST.

CAST.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

IF YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROPOSAL.

I'M ASKING TO, TO, UH, I'M ASKING FOR HELP TO GET MY CONTAINERS AS, UH, CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, DUMPSTERS THE, THE DUMPSTERS TO, TO, TO GET THEM AS STORAGE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

AND, UH, STICK AROUND BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO.

WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

ALRIGHT.

NO VOICEMAILS, JUST SPEAKERS? NO VOICEMAILS.

JUST SPEAKERS.

ALRIGHT.

IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH THE SPEAKERS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO ANSWER THOSE OR RESPOND TO THOSE, UH, COMMENTS AFTER, AFTER THEY SPEAK.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IF WE, IF HE WANTS TO HAVE A SEAT OH, SORRY.

SO THEN WE CAN, YES.

THANK YOU.

OUR FIRST, UH, SIGN UP TO SPEAK IS MR. NORM ROOF, AND HE IS TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. CHRISTOPHER BELOW.

IT APPEARS HE'S GONNA GIVE HIS TIME.

SO YOU'RE OH, HE'S, OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

I'M JUST CALLING IN THE ORDER.

OKAY.

SO WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? ALBERT.

ALBERT.

ALBERT ESCOBIDO.

THERE YOU GO.

ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS ALBERT ESCOVEDO.

I LIVE AT 19,409 APPLEWHITE ROAD, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO JERRY.

COST.

YOU GOT MY SLIDE.

OKAY.

THIS IS HIS NAME OF HIS DISPOSAL BUSINESS.

OKAY.

RIGHT NOW, UH, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT WE'RE DOING THIS.

THE FIRST TIME THE CITY CAME IN AND REMOVED HIM FROM THE PROPERTY.

OKAY, NOW HE'S, OKAY, NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

THESE ARE PICTURES FROM, FROM THE AREA WHERE HE LIVES RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME.

NOW HE'S, IF YOU CAN NOTICE, HE'S PUT THESE 12 FOOT WALLS UP TO, BECAUSE OF ALL THE PICTURES I'VE BEEN TAKING, SENDING TO THE CITY.

'CAUSE LITERALLY THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE.

OKAY.

SO I SEE THIS EVERY DAY GOING ON.

AND, AND NOW HE'S NOT IN THERE NOW BECAUSE NOW HE'S HIS DUMP.

HE MOVED IT OVER TO ON HIGHWAY 16, RIGHT THERE, HE'S RENTING FROM MALDONADO TRUCKING.

SO HE, HE WAS TOLD TO MOVE BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE HAD A, AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.

AND, AND, AND ON THAT AGREEMENT SAID THAT WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO START BUSINESSES DOING THIS AND THAT AND EVERYTHING.

SO I, I GOT AHOLD OF THE CITY AND SHOWED THEM THIS, WHAT HE'S DOING.

NEXT SLIDE.

THERE'S ANOTHER WALL HE PUT UP AND THAT'S WHERE HE HAD ALL THE DUMPSTERS AND TRASH AND EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THERE.

AND WHAT HE DOES IS HE PICKS IT UP, BRINGS IT IN, GOES THROUGH IT, AND RECYCLES AND YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES THOSE DUMPSTERS ARE THERE.

DUMPSTERS ARE THERE FOR WEEKS, MONTHS UNTIL HE FILLS THE ONE UP INTO THIS, YOU KNOW, TO SELL IT OR GET RID OF WHATEVER.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THIS IS ON THE PROPERTY, UH, BEHIND THAT WALL.

OKAY.

THAT HE WAS TOLD TO GET EVERYTHING OUT OF THERE.

THAT PERTAINED TO THAT BUSINESS.

FIVE YEARS LATER IT'S STILL THERE.

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HE'S GOT CRUSHERS IN THERE.

HE'S GOT ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

OKAY.

STORING THAT, THAT 18 WHEELER THING, THERE'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.

DUMPSTERS STILL IN THERE.

AND LIKE I SAID, CITY ASKED HIM TO REMOVE IT.

IT'S STILL THERE.

OKAY, NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE DUMPSTERS AND TRASH THAT'S STILL IN THERE AND, AND ON VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, UH, NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

THIS IS MATERIALS THAT HE HAS.

DUMP TRUCKS COMING IN.

DUMPING.

OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THAT MATERIAL, BUT IT COULD BE WASTE, IT COULD BE HAZARDOUS, IT COULD, YOU KNOW.

AND NEXT SLIDE.

AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR Y YOU KNOW, FOR A WHILE TOO.

NOW LOOK, WHEN IT RAINS, ALL THAT WATER IS COMING FROM THE TRASH BINS AND THE, AND, AND ALL THE DEBRIS AND THROUGH THOSE PILES OF WHATEVER THAT HAS DUMPED OVER THERE, PEOPLE CAN'T GET RID OF IT, I GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW.

AND HE HAS THEM, CHARGES THEM OR WHATEVER AND GETS RID OF IT AND DUMPS IT ON THAT PROPERTY.

YOU SEE THE WATER THERE THAT RUNS INTO MY GRAZING LAND.

YOU SEE THE TREE LINE THERE? THAT WATER GOES THROUGH THERE AND AT THE END THERE'S A POND THAT, FOR THE WATER FOR THE COWS.

SO IT GOES THROUGH THERE AND THEN FROM THERE I GUESS MAKES IT WAY TO THE MEDINA RIVER, WHICH IS NOT FAR DOWN THE ROAD.

SIR, THAT WAS YOUR TIME, SIR.

THAT'S YOUR TIME.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S IT, MR. OH, UH, MR. CHAIR.

I HAVE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

MR. CHAIR.

YES.

COULD WE AFFORD THE GENTLEMAN? UH, 30 SECONDS.

IT TOOK A LITTLE WHILE TO BRING UP THE SLIDES.

IT'S NOT LONGER, IT'S JUST A FEW MORE PICTURES.

AND IF YOU NOTICE ALL THAT WATER IS ON MY LAND.

YOU SEE ALL THE ON TOP THERE.

ALL THAT WATER RUNS THROUGH MY LAND.

AND LOOK, THIS IS OKAY.

I WENT AND TOOK PICTURES WHERE HE IS AT RIGHT NOW ON HIGHWAY 16.

NOW, I, I TOOK, I WENT AS A DAY LATE BECAUSE IF YOU SEE THE FENCE, IT'S, RIGHT NOW IT'S FULL OF DUMPSTERS ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT FENCE AND ALL THAT IS BEHIND HER.

NOW.

THERE'S NOT ONE BUSINESS.

HE'S GOT TWO BUSINESSES NOW.

HIS SON STARTED HIS BUSINESS.

SO THERE, OVER THERE THERE'S LIKE, I, THERE'S OVER 200 DUMPSTERS AND, AND HE WANTS TO PUT 'EM RIGHT THERE NEXT TO MY HOUSE, YOU KNOW? AND, AND NEXT PICTURE.

NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

THESE ARE THE FINAL TIPS AND TAKEAWAYS.

I, I CAN'T READ IT BECAUSE MY EYESIGHT AND, BUT UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.

NOW HE WANTS TO STORE 'EM.

I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING IN AND OUT.

'CAUSE HE HAS A BUSINESS AND THOSE DUMPSTERS MAKE HIS MONEY, HE SENDS 'EM OUT TO JOB SITES AND WHETHER HE'S GONNA BRING 'EM BACK SAYING HE'S STORING 'EM THERE WITH TRASH AND THEN, AND STILL WITH ALL THE MESS GOING THROUGH THEM, ALL THAT WATER THAT'S NOT COVERED OR NOTHING.

SO ALL THAT RUNOFF COMES INTO MY PROPERTY.

OKAY.

AND ALSO HE'S HAD COWS DYING ON HIS PROPERTY TOO.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

IF WE CAN HAVE THE NEXT MR. NORM ROOF.

ALRIGHT.

CHRISTOPHER BEO, YOU HAVE IMAGES TO SHOW WHAT YOU HAVE, IMAGES TO SHOW IN THE PICTURE.

YEAH, JUST THIS ONE.

AND IF YOU CAN PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE YOU BEGIN, PLEASE.

YES.

MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER BAYLOW.

I'M AN ATTORNEY FOR THE WAYNE HALE ESTATE.

I, MY ADDRESS IS 7 7 7 EAST ONTARIO BOULEVARD, SUITE THREE 20, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 8.

CAN I BEGIN THAT? YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

BEGIN.

UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COMMISSION, I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU.

UH, FORTUNATELY I BELIEVE I WAS EXCLUDED INTENTIONALLY BY THE APPLICANT.

IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE APPLEWHITE ROAD THERE.

MY CLIENT OWNS THE ALMOST 90 ACRES ON THE, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON APPLEWHITE.

AND I BELIEVE THIS REQUEST WAS INTENTIONALLY MOVED AWAY FROM MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY.

SO WE WOULD NOT GET NOTICE OF THIS HEARING.

MY CLIENT IS ADAMANTLY OBJECTING TO THIS ZONE CHANGE FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.

UM, WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST SIX OR SEVEN YEARS IN LITIGATION, PROTRACTED LITIGATION CONCERNING OUR PROPERTY.

WE HAVE NOW RESOLVED THAT LITIGATION AND THE, IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO SELL OUR PROPERTY, THE ALMOST 90 ACRES THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THAT SLIDE.

WE BELIEVE THAT PUTTING ESSENTIALLY AN INDUSTRIAL DUMP SITE ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR PROPERTY IS GONNA NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PROPERTY VALUES FOR NOT ONLY US.

WE THINK FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AROUND THERE.

I KNOW THAT THIS, UH, THIS DUMP SITE, IF IT'S ANYTHING LIKE THE SCREENSHOT THAT, UM, ALBERT SHOWED, UH, THIS COMMISSION A MOMENT AGO FROM THE HIGHWAY 16 PROJECT, UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, UH, UH, AN EYESORE AND A SERIOUS DIMINUTION IN VALUE OF PROPERTY VALUES BASED ON A DUMP SITE.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LOTS OF PROBLEMS WITH IT.

WE LEASE, WE HAVE A GRAZING LEASE ON

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OUR PROPERTY AND WE HAVE HAD THAT LEASE FOR YEARS FOR MR. TD SMITH, WHO'S HERE IS GONNA SPEAK TO YOU.

HE'S CATTLE GRAZED THAT PROPERTY AND HAVE FOR YEARS.

AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE WATER RUNOFF, WHEN IT RAINS HEAVY, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF RAIN.

BUT WHEN WE DO, UH, IT WILL RUN ACROSS THE STREET AND COME ACROSS ONTO OUR PROPERTY, UH, FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND WE BELIEVE, OR AT LEAST IN THAT AREA, WE BELIEVE THAT IF THESE ARE TOXINS IN THE, UH, DUMP SITES, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MATERIALS ARE.

HE, I THINK HE SAID IN SPANISH CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, WELL, THERE'S LOTS OF TOXIC CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS OUT THERE.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT COULD, UH, ALSO AFFECT MR. TDY SMITH'S RIGHTS AND HIS GRAZING LEASE.

SO WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THIS COURT, THIS COMMISSION TO REJECT AND DENY THIS REQUEST BASED ON THESE SERIOUS CONCERNS.

THANK YOU.

I RESERVE ANY ADDITIONAL TIME I HAVE FROM MR. UM, ROOF.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF WE COULD HAVE, UH, MR. ROOF.

AND SO MR. ROOF, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND I'LL JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT TIME IS NOT TRANSFERRED.

SO HOW ABOUT, UH, YEAH, NO, I I THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA TRANSFER THIS MR. SMITH.

IT IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PROCESS, SIR.

WE DON'T TRANSFER TIME.

YOU GET THREE MINUTES, THAT'S ALL.

WELL, THIS GUY MR. SMITH, YOU SIGNED UP MR. THEODORE SMITH.

OH, OKAY.

YOU'RE YIELDING YOUR TIME THEN.

YES.

SO HE'S YIELDING HIS FULL THREE MINUTES SO THAT I'LL GIVE MR. ROOF SIX MINUTES.

ANYTHING ELSE? JUST THOSE, UH, NO, THERE'S MORE THERE.

OKAY.

WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THIS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.

UH, MY NAME'S NORM ROOF.

I HAVE PROPERTY AT 1 9 6 3 3 APPLEWHITE ROAD THAT IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO THIS, UH, REZONING.

AND IT IS, UH, THERE'S NO BUFFER, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

AND, UH, I WANNA START LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS HIS THIRD ATTEMPT.

HE DID ILLEGALLY MOVE IN A DUMP AND HE HAS LEFT THE EQUIPMENT AT THE DUMP SITE THAT IS AGAINST WHAT THE, UM, CITY PROPOSED.

UH, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S BEEN FINED MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES UNTIL THE POINT THAT WHERE HE REMOVED HIS EQUIPMENT.

BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU IS THESE ARE THE NEW BUSINESSES OUT THERE.

THIS IS WITHIN THE FIRST MILE OF HIS PROPERTY ON APPLEWHITE ROAD.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT APPLEWHITE ROAD WHERE HE WANTS A DUMP AND SEE THE NEXT ONE PLEASE.

THE THE NEXT ONE IS MY HOME NEXT DOOR.

AND YOU CAN SEE I HAVE TWO STOCK PONDS THAT ARE DIRECTLY RUN OFF FROM HIS PROPERTY BEING HIGHER ELEVATION THAN MINE.

SO IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS ME.

OKAY, NOW THERE, THERE'S MORE.

OKAY.

THIS IS AN UNREGULATED PERMITTED DUMP, UNPERMITTED DUMP SITE THAT HE PUT IN THERE IN TWO 19.

NOW KEEP IN MIND, THEY FORCEFULLY REMOVED HIM AFTER ANNEXING HIS PROPERTY AFTER MANY, MANY, MANY VIOLATIONS.

HE FINALLY REMOVED PART OF THE EQUIPMENT AND THE, THERE'S OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT IS STILL THERE.

THERE'S DUMPSTERS THAT ARE STILL THERE AND YOU WERE NOT ALLOWED.

AND THE CITY TO GO BACK BEHIND THE TREES TO SEE WHAT HE CURRENTLY HAS IN VIOLATION WITH WHAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE.

HE'S ALREADY VIOLATING RULES.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND TOO, THAT THIS IS HIS CURRENT SITE.

THIS IS THE CURRENT SITE, AND HE'S STORING DUMPSTERS ON THERE.

AND WHETHER THEY'RE FILLED WITH MATERIALS OR NOT, THERE'S STILL WASTE IN THERE.

THERE'S LIQUIDS IN THERE.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT COULD BE IN THESE.

SO IF HE TAKES IT TO THE DUMP, WHICH HE USUALLY DOESN'T, HE COMPACTS IT ON HIS PROPERTY.

BUT IF HE DOESN'T TAKE, IF HE DOES TAKE IT TO THE DUMP, KEEP IN MIND, WHAT IF THERE WAS A BARREL OF OIL IN THERE? WHAT IF THERE WAS DIESEL IN THERE? WHAT IF THERE WAS CHEMICALS IN THERE? IT'S STILL IN THOSE DUMPSTERS.

AND THOSE CONTAINERS ARE ON A SEMI-TRUCK.

THEY'RE NOT THE DUMPSTERS YOU SEE IN THE CITY.

THESE ARE ON A SEMI-TRUCK.

HE'S GOT OVER A HUN 200 OF THESE THINGS THAT THIS GENTLEMAN MAY WANT TO STORE ON THAT PROPERTY.

SO YOU TELL ME HOW THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT YOU JUST SAW ARE GONNA THINK, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA THINK? WHAT ARE THE NEW BUSINESSES COMING IN GONNA THINK WHEN THERE'S A DUMP SITE OUT THERE? AND IT IS RIDICULOUS.

THERE'S ONE SLIDE IF YOU COULD PUT BACK ON THERE.

THE VERY FIRST ONE, THE, THE VERY FIRST SLIDE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS M AND M STRIPING.

THIS IS 350 YARDS FROM THIS PROPOSED STORAGE AREA.

THE NEXT ONE IS A BAKERY THAT YOU CAN SEE HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER VERY NICELY AND LANDSCAPED.

OKAY.

350 YARDS FROM THIS GUY'S DUMP.

I'M RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

THERE IS NO, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO,

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UH, ANYTHING BARRIER BETWEEN ME AND HIM.

IT'S HIS PROPERTY.

THIS THING'S RIGHT NEXT TO MY, MY FENCE LINE.

AND THIS IS IN THE FRONT ON APPLEWHITE ROAD WHERE ALL THESE PEOPLE DRIVING DOWN APPLEWHITE ROAD ARE GONNA SEE THAT.

AND THESE ARE CURRENT EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT HAVE JUST GONE IN.

THAT BAKERY IS NOT EVEN UP AND RUNNING YET.

THEY'RE CLOSE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA SAY WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY COME TO THE CITY AND SAY, LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? WE DID ALL OUR THINGS VERY WELL AND WE WORKED WITH THE CITY.

AND THE CITY DID A GREAT JOB IN PLANNING AS WELL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE CONTINUED.

I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND THE ONLY THING I WILL BE ABLE TO DO, IF YOU PUT THIS IN THERE, IS A SIMILAR BUSINESS.

I HAVE 25 ACRES AND I REALLY DON'T THINK THE CITY NOR I WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

BUT WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS? WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS WITH THE GUY BEHIND ME? WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS WITH A GUY ACROSS THE STREET? HOW'S HE GONNA SELL HIS PROPERTY? AND WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES ARE GONNA GO IN? YOU'RE DRIVING A STAKE INTO THE GROUND RIGHT NOW AND I THINK THAT THIS IS TOTALLY THE WRONG THING TO DO.

I STRONGLY OPPOSE IT.

AND, UH, THIS GUY I'M GONNA JUST READ, HE'S ALREADY BEEN DOING UNPERMITTED WORK.

HE'S BUILT A BUILDING ON HIS PROPERTY THAT IS NOT BEING TAXED.

IT'S NOT ON THE TAX ROLLS, IT'S NOT BEEN PERMITTED.

HE'S BUILT OTHER STRUCTURES OVER THERE.

NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN PULLED.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.

WE CAN'T GET OUT OF THE STUFF HE, HE CURRENTLY HAS ON THE PROPERTY.

AND IF YOU SAW BEHIND THE TREES, YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY, THE FIVE ACRES BEHIND THE TREES IS A DUMP EQUIPMENT AND A BIG COMPACTING MACHINE THAT'S PROBABLY 40 FEET LONG THAT COMPACTS THIS STUFF.

THIS IS ALL HIDDEN BEHIND THE TREES FROM YOU.

NOT ONLY THAT, WHAT'S HAPPENED IS WHEN YOU GUYS SENT OUT THE NOTICES, HE, YOU SENT IT OUT TO AN ADDRESS.

IT'S NOT THE ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU COULDN'T EVEN GO BACK AND SEE THAT WHAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED TWO TIMES BEFORE BECAUSE HE GAVE YOU A DIFFERENT ADDRESS.

OKAY? I WENT OUT TO HIS WEBSITE, GUESS WHAT HIS WEBSITE SAYS? WASTE REMOVAL ANYTIME, 24 HOURS A DAY.

GUESS WHAT NOW ABOUT HIS WEBSITE.

IT'S BEEN DISCONNECTED.

SO YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE WHAT THIS GUY'S DOING IN HIS BUSINESS AND HOW HE WANTS TO USE HIS STORAGE.

HE WANTS OVER 200 POSSIBLY CONTAINERS ON THAT PROPERTY SITTING IN FRONT ON APPLEWHITE ROAD.

WHETHER YOU FENCE IT OR NOT, WHETHER THEY'RE EMPTY OR THEY'RE FULL, THEY STILL HAVE MATERIALS IN THERE.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW YOU COULD EVER DUMP A 50 GALLON BARREL OF DIESEL OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THERE AND HAVE IT COME OUT WHEN HE DUMPS THESE THINGS.

AND HE DOES NOT DUMP THESE THINGS.

HE'S DOING ILLEGAL OPERATIONS ON ROUTE 16 RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S THE PICTURES.

IF YOU CAN PUT THAT BACK UP.

WHAT TIME IS IT? THE LAST PICTURE.

ALRIGHT SIR, I THINK YOUR TIME IS OKAY.

IS UP.

YEAH, THE, THE LAST PICTURE, IF YOU CAN JUST THAT PICTURE RIGHT THERE.

SURE.

OKAY.

YOU ALREADY SAW WHAT HE'S DOING? YES.

AND I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR AND I, I I'LL TELL YOU, I'M PRAYING TO GOD FOR MY PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA, THE NEW BUSINESSES IN THE CITY, THAT THIS IS NOT APPROVED IN ANY FASHION WHATSOEVER.

EMPTY FULL CONTAINERS.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND I BELIEVE, DO WE HAVE ONE MORE INDIVIDUAL SIDE DECK? NO, HE GAVE UP HIS TIME.

OH, OKAY.

SO THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC.

ALRIGHT.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT, IF HE'D WISH TO COME BACK UP WITH THE, I GUESS THE SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES AND, UH, IF YOU WANTED TO ANSWER OR MM-HMM .

RESPOND TO ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SORRY, GO AHEAD.

WHAT IS THE QUESTION? OH, WELL, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW.

HE, HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE MADE.

MY MY MY, MY REQUEST IS, IS TO PLACE MY CONTAINERS EMPTY, NO MATERIAL.

ONE OF, ONE OF, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, THE NEIGHBORS, THEY, THEY HAVE A, A COMPANY TEXAS POOLS INSIDE.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIM AND ME? NOT EVEN, NOT EVEN HIM.

NOT, NOT, NOT EVEN HIM.

THEY, THEY DON'T,

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THEY DON'T HAVE A COMPANY, UH, COMPANY RECEIVED TO THE, UH, HOUSE TRASH.

THEY BURN IT ON THE BACK.

I GOT A PICTURE.

THIS IS A TEXAS ENVIRONMENT COMMISSION.

REAL BAD.

SEE, IT'S ALBERT, THEY MAKE A, THEY MAKE A HOLE ON THE BACK TO PUT THE, TO THE HOUSE TRASH.

AND UH, ONCE IN A WHILE THEY BURN IT.

THEY, THEY, OKAY, OKAY.

I'M SORRY SIR.

HE'S, HE'S HAVING HIS, MY DEPARTMENT COME IN THREE TIMES AND THE, THE, THE, THE THIRD TIME THEY WANT, THEY WANNA AND THEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SAYS, NO, NO, THIS IS MY JOB.

THEY MOVE IT.

MAY I SPEAK? NO SIR, YOU MAY NOT.

UNLESS THE COMMISSION ADDRESSES ME.

THIS GUY.

ASK, ASK HIM.

ASK HIM, SIR.

YES.

ASK HIM FOR, FOR A GARBAGE COMPANY.

RECEIVE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN? UH, THE GARBAGE COMPANY, UH, SEE THEY DON'T HAVE IT.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OH, OKAY.

WE GOT IT.

AND, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.

SO YEAH, SO THIS IS A, WHAT'D WE SAY? THIS WAS A DISTRICT FOUR CASE OF TO YOU.

COMMISSIONER REYES.

THERE YOU ARE FOR QUESTIONS.

YES.

UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

AND THEN I'LL HAVE A QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF REALLY QUICK, SIR, CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN IF THIS IS APPROVED? WHAT, WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN ON THAT PROPERTY? NOT, NOT, I MUST, UH, ONLY PLACE MY EMPTY CONTAINERS AND WE CAN PUT A FENCE TO PRIVATE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND FOR STAFF, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE RUNOFF GOES TO THE NORTH BECAUSE THE MEDINA RIVER IS NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY.

UNLESS I'M WRONG, I'M JUST GONNA ASSUME THE RUNOFF DOES ESCAPE.

WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO CONFIRM THAT.

WE WOULD JUST LOOK AT THE CONTOUR MAP AS WELL AS YOU.

FAIR ENOUGH.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD CHAIR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER OSA, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, AVIVAS ARE, DO YOU LIVE ON THE PROPERTY? NO.

NO, NO.

AND HOW MANY ACRES IS IT? 21.3.

AND HOW MANY DUMPSTERS DO YOU PLAN TO PUT ON THERE? ONLY THE EMPTY ONES.

WHEN, UH, WHEN THE ONLY, THE EMPTY ONES.

AND HOW MANY? 20, 30, 40.

OKAY.

AND HOW OFTEN DO YOU TAKE THE DUMPSTERS TO THE DUMP? THE, THE, THE DEPENDS ON THE CUSTOMER.

WHEN THE CUSTOMER REQUESTS FOR SERVICE AFTER DUMP IT.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE NO, NO, NO, NO SERVICE FOR THAT DUMPSTER PLACE.

PLACES TO WAITING.

SO WHEN YOU PICK IT UP FROM THE CUSTOMER, YOU TAKE IT DIRECTLY TO THE DUMP, TAKE IT TO THE LANDFILL, FIRST LANDFILL, AND THEN YOU BRING IT BACK TO THE PROPERTY WHEN IT, WHEN IT'S EMPTY? YES.

THEN WHY DO WE SEE PICTURES THAT HAVE DUMPSTERS THAT ARE FULL OR HAVE ITEMS IN IT? NO, THIS IS OLD PROPERTY.

AND IT'S A MATERIAL.

NO, IT'S NOT TRASH.

IT'S ALUMINUM.

IT'S ALUMINUM.

UH, QUE ALUMINUM.

A STAINLESS STEEL ONLY FOR RECYCLING.

SO YOU DON'T, SO YOU DON'T, WHEN YOU PICK IT UP FROM THE CUSTOMER, YOU DON'T GO TO THE DUMP OR THE LANDFILL? MOST OF THE TIMES, YES.

SEE OR NO? YES.

WELL NO, YOU, YOU TOLD ME.

YOU, YOU SAID NO, YOU KEEP IT FOR ALUMINUM.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

WHEN THE DUMPSTER IS A, IS A LOT OF RECYCLING.

I TAKE IT TO RECYCLING, I'M GONNA BE HONEST.

BUT WHEN IT'S A REGULAR CONSTRUCTION, DEBRIS GO STRAIGHT TO THE LANDFILL.

WELL JUST BE CAREFUL WITHOUT .

NOW YOU'RE GONNA BE HONEST.

I MEAN, .

SO, UM, I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION.

UM, I, I'LL COME WHEN I REMEMBER THAT.

I'LL COME BACK ALL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS ON MY RIGHT? MM-HMM.

COMMISSIONS ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

OKAY.

UM, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT STEP BACK, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.

ALRIGHT.

UH, IF YOU COULD, UH, STEP BACK FOR A LITTLE BIT, WE'RE GONNA ASK QUESTIONS FOR SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, OKAY? ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER MONT, LET'S START WITH MS. MR. ESCOVEDO.

AND SIR, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ADDRESS ME.

YES SIR.

AND NO ONE ELSE? YES SIR.

ALRIGHT.

UH, AT LEAST UNTIL THEY ASK YOU QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

BUT THAT'S ONLY GONNA BE COMING FROM HERE.

I DON'T WANT ANY TALK BACK THERE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, OKAY.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR PROPERTY IS ZONED TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

WHAT ARE THE TWO ZONINGS THERE? UH, ML ONE OR M MI UH, AND AND AND FARM.

AND RANCH.

AND

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FARM AND RANCH.

YES SIR.

SO WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE MI ONE USAGE THAT YOU'RE USING ON YOUR PROPERTY? WELL, I'M A HEAVY EQUIPMENT MECHANIC.

OKAY.

AND, AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN THERE 32 YEARS, SO IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT SINCE I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, BUILT OUR HOUSE AND ALL THAT.

I, I'VE DONE EVERYTHING THE RIGHT WAY.

I'VE, I'VE, WHEN I FIRST BUILT MY HOUSE, I CALLED THE CITY TO GET PERMITS AND THIS AND THAT, AND THEY SAID I WAS BEAR COUNTY.

I DIDN'T NEED PERMITS, I COULD BUILD UNTIL MY HEART WAS CONTENT.

SO I DID.

AND AFTER I BUILT, THEN I WAS ANNEXED MY ROAD IN A HOUSE WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.

BUT I'VE GOTTEN LETTERS.

I, I, I ALWAYS, I WAS IN THE MILITARY, SIR.

I, I WAS.

AND, AND I GO BY RULES AND I TRIED.

I DO EVERYTHING THE RIGHT WAY 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE.

SO EVERYTHING I DO IS LEGIT.

AND RIGHT NOW I'M RETIRED, SO I'M GONNA HAVE A BIG TRUCK COME IN ONE DAY AND JUST GET RID OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE I'M, I WANNA SELL, IF I SELL MY PROPERTY, I WANT AS MUCH AS I CAN GET BECAUSE OF THE TOYOTA PLANT AND ALL THE STORAGE BUILDINGS BEING BUILT AND THIS AND THAT.

SO I WANT TO CLEAN UP.

SO I DO HAVE A POOL BUILDING, BUILDING BUSINESS.

IT'S NOT REALLY MINE.

IT'S, IT'S A FRIEND OF MINE AND WE WORK TOGETHER.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T DO TRASH.

I DON'T DO ANYTHING.

AND, AND I EVEN TELL THE GUYS, IF YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE THE OILS ON YOUR VEHICLES, TAKE 'EM SOMEWHERE AND HAVE IT DONE.

DON'T, I DON'T WANT IT DONE ON MY PROPERTY.

MI MR. JERRY HERE HAS CALLED SEVERAL TIMES THE POLICE, THE FIRE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UM, OH, AND JUST RECENTLY, I, SINCE HIS COWS WERE DYING, THEY CAME IN AND TOOK HALF HIS HERD AWAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS.

SO THEN I GET THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL PEOPLE COMING AND, AND THEY SAID THAT I WAS, THEY SOMEBODY CALLED THAT I WAS BURNING CHEMICALS, CHEMICAL WASTE.

AND I SAID, NO, I SAID THIS, THERE'S A PERSON THAT'S MAD AT ME AND HE'S JUST TRYING TO GET ME IN TROUBLE.

SO I SAID, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME OUT.

THEY LEFT A NOTE ON MY GATE AND I SAYS, I'M I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU THE GRAND TOUR OF MY PROPERTY.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MR. ESCOVEDO.

AND THEY CAME OUT.

ALRIGHT.

AND, AND THAT'S ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF YOUR PROPERTY, RIGHT? WE CAN SEE IT UP THERE ON THAT MAP? YES, SIR.

THAT'S, THAT'S MY HOUSE AND, AND MY LAND.

YEAH.

IF YOU WANT TO POINT IT OUT.

OH, I'M SORRY.

DON'T, DON'T LOOK AT IT.

WHAT DO I DO ? IT GOES THAT WAY.

SO SEE, OH, DO I PUSH A BUTTON? YEAH.

OH, THAT WAY.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT AT THE TOP.

IS THAT MY ROAD RIGHT THERE? I THINK THAT'S YOUR ROAD.

YEAH.

YEAH, THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT, RIGHT THERE.

AND MY HOUSE IS RIGHT HERE.

OVER HERE.

OKAY.

I, I TAKE THANK YOU.

I TAKE CARE OF MY LAND.

I HAVE, THANK YOU.

I HAVE FRUIT TREES.

I HAVE.

THANK YOU SIR.

I'M A STICKLER FOR CLEANLINESS AND NEATNESS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SIR.

AND EVERYTHING OKAY, SIR? THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UM, MR. I, I THINK IT WAS BAY, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR OH, WAYNE HALE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR.

ALRIGHT, AND SO YOUR PROPERTY IS ACROSS THE STREET? MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY IS CLIENT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

YES.

AND IT GOES FROM NEAL ROAD AND APPLEWHITE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO JUST BEFORE YOU GET TO 1604.

AND THAT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED BUSINESS PARK, CORRECT? IT IS.

OKAY.

AND IS THAT THE INTENDED USE, SHOULD SALE OCCUR? UH, OR DO YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SELL IT AS.

YES.

OKAY.

AS IS AND AS AS IT IS BUSINESS PARK DESIGNATION? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THEN, SO AGAIN, ALMOST 90 ACRES RUNNING ALONG APPLE, IT'S 89.850 ACRES.

IT'S JUST UNDER, I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE PRECISENESS, BUT, UH, , I THINK 90 WILL WORK FOR .

WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SELL PROPERTY, YOU'RE GONNA KNOW EVERYTHING .

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

I, I THINK THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

YES, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER? UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

I HEARD SOME OF THE APPLICANTS MENTIONING THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THIS CASE COMES, THAT THIS, HAS THIS CASE EVER COME TO ZONING REGARDING A CHANGE FOR LS? THERE WE'VE ONLY HAVE GOT THE ONE REASON.

SO ORIGINALLY THIS WAS GOING THROUGH A CODE VIOLATION AS THEY WERE SAYING IN BACK IN 2019.

UM, THEY DID SUBMIT FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING, UM, I BELIEVE FOR I ONE S, BUT THEN THAT'S PROBABLY, THEY HAD TO POSTPONE IT AND RESTART THAT SAME CASE FOR UM, I TWO S FOR UH, METAL RECYCLING.

AND SO THIS WAS, THAT WAS THE ONE CASE THAT WAS BACK IN LIKE 20 19, 20 20.

AND SO THIS IS TECHNICALLY THE SECOND CASE ON THIS.

SO SINCE THEN IT'S STILL BEEN DESIGNATED AS FARM LAND AND HE'S STILL USING IT AS IN, I GUESS SLIGHT INDUSTRIAL? WELL, ACCORDING TO OUR NOTICE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE CODE VIOLATIONS, LIKE THEY SAID BACK IN 20 19, 20 20, YES THERE WERE CODE VIOLATIONS.

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THEY WERE ABSOLVED OR RESOLVED.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ON COUNTER.

AND YES, IT'S BEEN FR THIS WHOLE TIME.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER MOND, I'M SO SORRY.

I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UM, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN WITH THIS.

IS THAT NECESSARY OR BINDING ON THE APPLICANT? IT IS BECAUSE IT IS A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER TSET, UM, THE M1 ZONING, WHICH IS NEXT DOOR, I THINK I'M, I WAS LOOKING AT Y'ALL'S PREVIOUS MAP.

IT SEEMED TO INDICATE THAT JUST TO THE SOUTH MM-HMM .

UH, WOULD THAT ALLOW THE USE THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT HERE? OR YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE USE THAT Y'ALL ARE PROPOSING? JUST GIMME ONE SECOND.

I CAN CHECK.

SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT ALLOWS OUTDOOR STORAGE OR LIKE UN UNSCREENED OR JUST OPEN STORAGE.

IT DOES PERMIT STORAGE OUTSIDE IF IT'S UNDER A ROOF AND SCREENED FROM THE STREETS AND ROADS FOR MI ONE, UM, BUT NOT FOR, SO MI ONE, WHICH IS MIXED INDUSTRIAL DASH ONE, UM, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT AREAS.

THERE'S THE REGULAR MI ONE AND THEN THERE'S MI ONE MINOR NODE.

AND SO MINOR NODE IS DESIGNATED AS PROPERTY THAT'S WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF AN INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES DEFINED BY OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

AND, UM, MEETING IT IS WITHIN.

AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT IT AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT WOULD BE WITHIN THE MI ONE MINOR NODE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THAT INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.

AND SO IT ANY KI THAT OUTSIDE STORAGE THAT I WAS MENTIONING ABOUT IT BEING COVERED AND SCREENED WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED JUST BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE QUARTER MILE OF A MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIR OF TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.

SO IF HE HAD M1 EXISTING ZONING, HE COULDN'T EVEN BE DOING IT RIGHT NOW.

CORRECT.

'CAUSE HE WOULD BE CONSIDERED A MINOR NODE.

YEAH.

SO ALL OF THIS ZONING AT ONE POINT WAS INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE THE TOYOTA WANTING INDUSTRIAL NEAR THEM.

SO YOU'VE GOT A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AND UM, THE, UH, PROPOSED ZONING THAT Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT DOES HAVE THE SPECIFIC USE.

SO THAT LIMITS HIS SITE PLAN.

MM-HMM .

UH, WOULD HE, HOW DO Y'ALL MONITOR IF HE'S GOT JUST EMPTY STORAGE CONTAINERS OR HE'S DUMPING THEM AND SORTING THEM THERE? DO YOU LIMIT HIM FROM DOING THAT? THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION WOULD LIMIT THAT.

IT CAN ONLY BE THE STORAGE OF THE EMPTY DUMPSTERS.

HE COULDN'T KEEP TRASH OR ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY.

AND AS FOR REGULATIONS, THAT'S WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD HAVE TO ENFORCE TO MAKE SURE THAT HE'S COMPLYING WITH WHAT IS THE ZONING AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN BY CODE ENFORCEMENT? WHAT, WHAT WOULD Y'ALL DO IF SOMEBODY'S IN VIOLATION IN THAT CASE? IF SOMEBODY'S IN VIOLATION, UM, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WOULD, UM, ISSUE VIOLATIONS WOULD, WE WOULD GO OUT TO THE SITE AND INSPECT THE SITE TO ENSURE THAT IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPROVED ZONING.

IF WE FIND THAT THERE ARE ZONING VIOLATIONS, WE WILL START TO TAKE ACTIONS ON CITATIONS.

EVENTUALLY IT'LL GO TO ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER FOR COURT AND THEN WE, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE WOULD BE TAKING IT TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD TO POTENTIALLY SHUT IT DOWN SO HE WOULD LOSE HIS ZONING OR, UH, IF HE DOESN'T HAVE THE PROPER ZONING, HE CAN'T DO THE WORK HE'S DOING ON THE SITE.

SO THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING TODAY.

OKAY.

AND JUST, JUST TO BE SPECIFIC, HE WOULDN'T LOSE ZONING.

HE HAS TO COMPLY, COMPLY, COMPLY WITHIN THE RESTRAINTS OF THE ZONING.

ALL RIGHT.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT WITH QUESTIONS? NONE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER OSA, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION? I GET JUST ONE FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO PER VIKI FER YES, MR. OR EVERYTHING WE CAN HELP YOU TRANSLATE.

SO EVERYTHING THAT THEY JUST SAID, DO YOU UNDERSTAND YEARS AGO, RIGHT? YOU'RE HAVING,

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I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT PERMIT WAS REQUIRED AT THAT TIME.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

BUT MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE, SO WHAT, WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE CITY JUST SAID WAS YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE CONTAINERS TO THAT PROPERTY WITH METAL TO SORT OUT.

IS THAT CORRECT? CITY? CORRECT.

EMPTY ONLY.

EMPTY ONLY BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET FINED, FINED? NO, NO, NO.

EMPTIES, EMPTIES, EMPTIES ONLY.

OKAY.

THIS IS MY REQUEST, NOT YOUR REQUEST.

THAT'S MY REQUEST.

MY REQUEST.

THAT'S THE CITY TELLING YOU? YEAH.

MM-HMM .

AND IF NOT, YOU HEARD WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY COULD DO, RIGHT? OKAY.

AS LONG AS YOU UNDERSTAND.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUEY, YOU HAD A QUESTION? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

I'M KIND OF FOLLOWING THE, UH, THE LINE OF QUESTIONING FROM, UM, A FELLOW COMMISSIONER HERE.

SO WITH YOUR MT CONTAINERS ON YOUR LOT, DO YOU CLEAN THEM OUT? AND IF YOU DO CLEAN THEM OUT, WHERE DO THE WASTEWATER GO? THEY ARE NOT DIRTY WHEN THEY COME HERE.

THEY'RE NOT DIRTY.

EVERYTHING IS DUMPED BEFORE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DUMPED IN A LANDFILL OR YES, IN A LANDFILL REPUBLIC AT THE PUBLIC LANDFILL.

PUBLIC AND THE BACK LANDFILL.

AND TOO AT THE PUBLIC AND THE VACANT FIELD? YEP, BOTH OF THEM.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS.

SEE NONE.

BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER REYES FOR A MOTION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

STUDYING THE FACTS OF THE CASE AND THE REPORT, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS, SEEING THAT THE INTENDED USE IS OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THIS AREA.

THIS, THIS AREA SUPPORTS FARM AND RANCH SUPPORTS, UH, BUSINESS PARK.

I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR NO, I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER REYES WITH A SECOND.

BY THAT WAS YOU, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA? CORRECT.

UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER IS ON MY RIGHT.

NONE, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.

UM, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION.

UM, I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS, UH, THAT COMMISSIONER REYES ALREADY MENTIONED.

UH, BUT ADDITIONALLY, ONE OF THE OTHER BIG CONCERNS FOR ME IS ACTUALLY THE SITE PLAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE USE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY, IS VERY INTENSE, IS, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S CLEAN, STILL LOOKS, UH, AND WOULD DETRACT FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

SO CLOSE TO APPLEWHITE ROAD DOES LEAVE ME WITH A, A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN ON TOP OF SORT OF MORE SUBSTANTIVE, UH, BUT PUTTING THAT USE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE ROAD, I THINK, UM, SEALS THE DEAL FOR ME.

AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION FOR DENIAL.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

AND THIS OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT? UH, COMMISSIONER, I DON'T EVEN MIND THE DISCUSSION.

I GUESS IT'S JUST MAYBE AGAIN, A QUESTION FOR MAYBE CITY ATTORNEYS.

LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY OR JUST THIS, DOES THIS GOES THROUGH DENIAL OR CITY COUNCIL? WHAT HAPPENS THEN TO HIM? HOW DO THEY ENFORCE THAT THESE CONTAINERS ARE REMOVED AND HOW QUICK DOES THAT PROCESS START TO, FOR THE, FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS? IF THAT'S EVEN A QUESTION I SHOULD ASK.

SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE THE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT PIECE.

UM, SO WE WOULD BE GETTING INVOLVED, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM WOULD BE GETTING INVOLVED TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS NOT STORAGE ON THAT PROPERTY.

UM, THERE IS NOT DEBRIS OR TRASH.

UM, IT IS NOT A NUISANCE PROPERTY.

SO THAT WOULD FALL ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, AND JUST TO, TO FOLLOW UP, MY ANSWER WAS GOING TO BE THAT THERE IS A CITY PROCESS ALREADY IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH THESE.

SO IT WOULD FOLLOW THE NORMAL CITY PROCESS UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF AT THIS POINT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER BARTOS, DID YOU HAVE DISCUSSION JUST TO COMMENT? UH, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE, THE DENIAL ALSO AND I AGREE WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER ANTE, SO I WILL BE, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE DENIAL.

ALRIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE DENIAL TOO, ALTHOUGH I UNDER NORMAL PROBABLY CIRCUMSTANCES IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE LOGICAL TO HAVE AN M1 THERE.

BUT, UH, WITH ALL THE ISSUES AROUND THIS, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE DENIAL.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, UM, I'LL ALSO BE SUPPORTING

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THE DENIAL.

UM, AND I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BUS BUSTA MONTE'S OBSERVATIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH MEANS YOU TAKE EXTRA CARE AND, AND TO LOOK AT IT.

AND THEN SO YOU'RE TAKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY.

AND YET THAT'S THE USE THAT'S RIGHT THERE UP AND IN CENTER UP FRONT.

AND, UM, IT JUST DOES NOT SEEM TO, TO MAKE SENSE, UM, COMPARED TO THE ADJACENT USES AND THE IN THE AREA.

SO THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER REYES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER WHITSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU.

UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, I BELIEVE IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF'S REPORT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

BRONTE FRE ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS LOCATED AT 69 0 9 NORTH LOOP 1604 EAST, GOING FROM C3 TO MF 33.

ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.

THERE ARE 15 NOTICES SENT ZERO IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE EXISTING C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF ITS EXISTING I ONE L AND C3 ZONING DISTRICTS AND WOULD INTRODUCE RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS IN BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTIES.

THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH ZONING PATTERNS THAT PROMOTE INCREMENTAL CHANGE IN INTENSITY OF LAND USES AND DISCOURAGE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS.

NEXT TO EXISTING INDUSTRIAL AND MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, PLEASE JUST GIMME ONE SECOND.

I HAVE A PRESENTATION THEY'RE GONNA LOAD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK.

I KNOW HOW WORK.

THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S IT.

LET'S SEE IF IT'LL GO INTO, LEMME DOUBLE CHECK THIS WAY.

NO SPACE? NO.

YEAH, JUST LIKE SPACE DOESN'T WORK.

ARROW.

IT'S 'CAUSE IT'S, UM, IT'S A PDF SO IT'S NOT A PROMISE TO SCROLL.

OH, WE HAVE TO DOWN, SCROLL DOWN.

DOWN.

YEAH.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I HAVE 10 MINUTES, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, YES.

YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

.

OKAY.

THAT'S NOT WORKING.

I'M TRYING TO GET THE TIME HERE.

LET ME PUT THE TIME.

OKAY.

THERE YOU GO.

YOU'RE GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, CHAIRMAN, ZONING COMMISSIONERS AND CITY STAFF.

MY NAME IS DARREN HANSEN, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT WITH AMTEC.

UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT TODAY.

UM, I PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION TO KIND OF, UH, SHARE WITH YOU KIND OF OUR, OUR VISION OF THE SITE AND THE REASONS WHY WE CHOSE THIS SITE.

UM, THIS, THIS HERE IS JUST A QUICK, UH, JUST KIND OF AGENDA, THE THINGS THAT I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH TODAY.

JUST TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE WHO AMTEC, UH, IS.

UM, WE ARE A DEVELOPMENT COMPANY THAT HAVE, THAT HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 47 YEARS.

WE, UM, EXPANDED TO TEXAS, UH, IN 2011.

SINCE THEN, WE HAVE, UM, COMPLETED 16 DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT TEXAS.

UM, THIS IS OUR FIRST DEVELOPMENT IN SAN ANTONIO.

UH, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS IN AUSTIN, HOUSTON, AND THE DALLAS, UH, METROPLEX AREA.

AND CURRENTLY, UH, FOR THIS PROPOSAL, WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST, UH, AS OUR PARTNER, THIS IS A 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROPOSAL.

UH, AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE REQUESTING THE ZONE CHANGE.

I WANNA

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JUST TO JUST TAKE A MINUTE AND JUST SHARE WITH YOU, UH, THESE ARE, UH, PICTURES OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED IN TEXAS.

UM, THE ARCHITECTURE THAT YOU CAN SEE, UM, IS, IS, IS, IS HIGH QUALITY.

UM, ALL OF OUR AMENITIES ARE HIGH QUALITY.

THE INTERIORS ARE HIGH QUALITY.

EVERYTHING WE DO IS JUST LIKE A MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT.

YOU CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN SELECTING THIS SITE.

UM, THERE'S MANY REASONS WHY WE FELT THAT THIS WAS, UM, UH, A GOOD SITE TO PROPOSE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, IT'S A GOOD LOCATION NEAR SERVICES, UH, JOBS AND AMENITIES.

UM, IN THE LOCAL AREA, THERE IS NOT A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THERE, THERE IS, UH, MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT, UH, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF AFFORDABLE.

UH, OUR, OUR PROPOSED USE IS, IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE ZONING DESIGNATIONS IN THE SAN ANTONIO, UM, TOMORROW REGIONAL CENTER PLAN.

AND I'LL SHOW THAT.

UM, WE ALSO MET WITH COUNCILMAN WHITE, UM, AND HE IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT IS IN LINE WITH THE FUTURE ZONING, UH, DESIGNATION FOR THE SITE.

UM, WE ALSO CHOSE THE SITE BECAUSE THERE'S MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS.

UM, OUR MAIN ENTRANCE, IF I COULD JUST POINT QUICKLY, IS GONNA BE OVER HERE, BUT WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXIT ALL OF THESE OTHER EXITS ON NEGA.

SO THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE SITE REALLY QUICKLY.

UM, GOING THROUGH THE, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE, THE, THESE ARE SOME, UH, SOME GUIDELINES I JUST WANNA POINT OUT QUICKLY.

THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, SPECIFIC LAND USE PLANS FOR REGIONAL CENTERS THAT SUPPORT MIXED USE WITH HIGHER DENSITIES.

AND IT ALSO ENCOURAGES AND INCENTIVIZE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A RANGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS IN AND NEAR REGIONAL CENTERS.

AND THEN GOING ON TO THE, UH, SAN ANTONIO, UM, REGIONAL PLAN THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING, UH, BEING WORKED ON, IT ACTUALLY STARTED IN 2022.

UH, THERE'S BEEN THREE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN, UH, HELD.

UM, THERE IS ONE MORE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN TWO WEEKS.

AND, AND SPEAKING WITH THE SENIOR PLANNER, UM, THEY ARE, THEY ANTICIPATE THAT THIS PARTICULAR PLAN WILL GO, UH, BEFORE COUNCIL GET ADOPTED, UH, IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.

THIS IS THE AREA OF THE PLAN.

UH, THE ROLLING OAKS MALL IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED.

THAT IS ONE OF THE AREAS IN WHICH, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, UH, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UM, REGIONAL PLAN.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS IS THE USES THAT THEY'RE, UH, THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PROPOSING.

UM, FOR THIS PLAN AND ITS ADOPTION.

ALL OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S AROUND US IS, IT WILL BE MIXED USE.

SO THIS IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER FOR US TO BE ASKING FOR A ZONE CHANGE FOR, FOR MULTIFAMILY AT THIS LOCATION.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A A SENSE, THE, THE ROLLING OAKS MALL IS, IS IT'S, IT'S QUITE OLD.

UM, AND IT IS, IT IS IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT FOR SURE.

UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE THE SITE THAT'S IN GREEN TIED UP WITH THE SELLERS, WHICH THE SELLERS ARE THE MALL.

UM, AND, UM, THIS RIGHT HERE JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LAND HERE.

UM, AND THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION WILL GIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WILL, WILL REALLY BE THE CATALYST OF CHANGE AT THIS SITE.

THIS HERE IS ALSO A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE REGIONAL PLAN.

UM, THIS SHOWS THAT, UM, THERE'S A, A MULTITUDE OF USES THAT, THAT THEY FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE, UH, BEING TOWN HOMES, SENIOR HOUSING AND MULTIFAMILY HOUSING INCLUDED WITH THE OTHER USES THAT THEY FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE.

GOING TO, UM, OUR SITE PLAN, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE PROPOSING 300 AND, UH, 80 UNITS IN TWO PHASES.

PHASE ONE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THE RED LINE, THAT'S A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE PHASES.

PHASE ONE, WE, WE CURRENTLY, UH, HAVE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO THE CITY FOR FUNDING.

UM, UH, THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN, UH, THESE ARE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS ELEVATED.

UM, THEY WILL BE ENERGY EFFICIENT AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.

UM, THE ONE THING I WANTED TO

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POINT OUT THAT WE, THAT WE FEEL IS REALLY NECESSARY IN THIS PART OF, UH, THE COMMUNITY IS WE ARE PROPOSING A LOT OF THREE IN FOUR BEDROOM UNITS.

THERE ARE VERY LITTLE FOUR BEDROOM UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SAN ANTONIO.

WE HAVE DONE IT IN OTHER AREAS AND IT'S VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT WE HAVE, UH, MANY AMENITIES, UM, THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE BRING TO OUR COMMUNITIES, UH, SWIMMING POOLS AND BARBECUE AND COURTYARDS AND PLAYGROUNDS AND DOG PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM HERE, UM, UH, TO INCORPORATE A LOT OF THOSE USES.

THE OTHER THING I I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IS, UH, NORTH, I GUESS THAT'D BE NORTHWEST OF US.

UM, THERE'S A HUGE FLOODPLAIN.

SO, UM, SO TO THE NORTH OF US, WHICH IS IN, WHICH IS CURRENTLY INDUSTRIAL, THERE IS NOT A LOT OF ROOM TO ACTUALLY BUILD INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT GOES THROUGH THERE IS SO TREMENDOUS.

IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT, IT IT WOULD BE SO EXPENSIVE TO TRY TO REDIRECT THAT WATER THAT IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT.

SO WE FEEL THAT THIS REALLY IS A REALLY GOOD BUFFER FOR THE ADJACENT USES.

THE, THE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT QUICKLY, UM, IS THAT, UH, WE, WE, WE ALSO ARE PARTNERING WITH THE YMCA, THE LOCAL YMCA FOR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS FOR THE KIDS.

WE'RE ALSO PARTNERING WITH, UM, WITH THE, UH, THE PRE-K FOUR SAN ANTONIO, WHICH ALSO OFFERS, UM, SERVICES FOR, UH, PRE-KIDS AGES THREE AND FOUR.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE PARTNERING WITH THEM AS WELL.

IN, IN ADDITION, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF JOBS IN THIS AREA AND IT REALLY, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, COULD USE SOME ADDITIONAL HOUSING ALONG WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU, UH, ON THE NEXT SLIDE HERE IS THIS IS WHAT WE CALL, UM, INCOME AVERAGING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT WE HAVE 30% A MI UNITS ALONG WITH 60 AND 70% A MI UNITS.

AND THE ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT IS IT GIVES, IT GIVES FAMILIES IN VARIOUS INCOME RANGES THE ABILITY TO LIVE HERE.

AND WHEN YOU SEE A A FOUR PERSON HOUSEHOLD, UH, IN THE 70% A MI THAT IS, THAT'S A HOUSEHOLD INCOME OF ALMOST $62,000 A YEAR.

SO IT REALLY DOES GIVE THE ABILITY FOR VARIOUS RANGES OF INCOME, WHICH WE FEEL IS, IS, IS NEEDED IN THE AREA.

AND EN LISTED BELOW, UM, ARE THE RENTS THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THE 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR BEDROOM UNITS.

AND THAT IS MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I ALSO HAVE MY CIVIL ENGINEER HERE AS WELL.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT.

ALRIGHT.

THIS IS A DISTRICT 10 CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER WHITSETT FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, I'LL MAKE IT SHORT AND SWEET.

UH, I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, NOT PICKING THE SITE NEXT TO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE, I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A, A CONTROVERSIAL WHILE BACK.

UH, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT SPOT FOR IT.

UH, AND I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHANGES COMING OUT THERE AND ALL, AND I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF AND JUST THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL.

IS IT JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT THE AREA? IS THAT PRETTY MUCH THE REASON OR IS THERE MORE DEPTH OF THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL PROPOSAL? UH, IT'S JUST THE, UM, COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES AND ZONING.

THERE'S A LOT OF L IN I ONE AS WELL AS, UM, HEAVIER, INTENSE C3 USES.

SO IT, IT'S MORE OF A REGIONAL CENTER AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS PROPOSING FOR THAT AREA.

IF IT IS MIXED USE, THAT'S A LOWER INTENSITY THAT DOESN'T EVEN GO WITH THE EXISTING USES IN THE AREA.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

GREAT QUESTION.

ALRIGHT, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HUEY, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GEARED TOWARDS LOW INCOME HOUSING.

HAVE YOU DONE AN ANALYSIS ON WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION MODES AVAILABLE FOR THOSE, UM, RESIDENTS? YEAH, ACTUALLY, UM, THERE, LET ME FIND MY NOTES HERE QUICKLY.

THERE IS A, A VIA LINK.

THIS ISN'T A VIA LINK SERVICE ZONE.

UM, AND SO THAT, UH, AND IT IS AT THE MALL.

SO FOLKS THAT WOULD LIVE HERE WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK OVER, TAKE THAT TO A, A, A LOCAL, UM,

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SPOT TO, UH, TO GET ON, UH, LOCAL TRANSIT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I HAVE NONE MYSELF.

UH, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT TO YOU FOR A MOTION? MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S, UH, APPLICATION.

SECOND FOR, UH, ZONING.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, UM, WITH A BY COMMISSIONER WIT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.

DISCUSSION.

LOOKING LEFT.

SEEING NONE.

LOOKING RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER WITS UP? YES.

COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER REYES? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE.

COMMISSIONER ORTIZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR SIPES? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

ALRIGHT, SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE DISCUSSION AND ELECTION OF ZONING COMMISSIONER COMMISSION OFFICERS FOR 2025, SO CORRECT.

AND STAFF CAN TAKE OVER FROM THIS POINT IF THAT'S HELPFUL.

THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE WORK FINE.

THANK, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN AFTER THE CHAIR IS SELECTED, IF THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND EXERCISE THEIR NEW POWERS, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL.

BUT IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO CONTINUE I CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR THE NEXT PERSON.

.

SO GOOD QUESTION.

REAL QUICK, UM, ON MINUTES, WHO WILL SIGN THE MINUTES? YOU'LL SIGN THE MINUTES 'CAUSE YOU PRESIDED OVER THIS MEETING.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU.

I WAS JUST NO PROBLEM.

JUST SAY SOMEONE LIKE ME MAYBE ALREADY SIGNED AND .

I WAS LIKE, OH NO, I'M GONNA HAVE TO CROSS IT OUT, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALRIGHT.

NO PROBLEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIR FOR THE ZONING COMMISSION? 2025.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR CHAIR SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? NOMINEE? UH, JOHN BUSANTE SECOND.

I, WE ARE JUST TAKING NOMINATIONS AT THIS TIME, SO WE'RE GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS THAT WE NEED TO ADD TO THE LIST? NO.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER WATSON, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

TWO, I'M NOT , I'M WILLING TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION AND THOSE FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER GUSTA.

THAT IS FIVE.

SO COMMISSIONER GUSTA HAS IT.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS.

WOULD YOU? THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS.

COMMISSIONER, DO YOU WANNA MOVE OVER HERE? YEAH.

SO I CAN BE CLOSING TO THE DOOR.

MOVE OVER THERE.

WE'LL PLAY MUSICAL CHAIRS.

ALRIGHT, I'LL CLEAN UP.

I'LL CLEAN UP MY WRAPPERS.

, ARE THEY THOSE THAT DIDN'T VOTE? ARE YOU ABSTAINING? IS WHAT COUNSEL'S ASKING? I'M ABSTAINING.

OKAY.

YOU ABSTAIN FROM OKAY.

I ABSTAIN.

OKAY.

JUST NEEDED THAT FOR THE RECORD.

HEY SIR, IT'S ALL YOURS.

YOU CAN, UH, WE'LL NEED, UH, NOMINATIONS NOW FOR VICE CHAIR AND FOR PRO TEMP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND, AND THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

UM, I'M BACK.

UH, ALRIGHT.

AT THIS POINT WE ARE GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE VICE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF SAN ANTONIO FOR 2025.

ANY NOMINATIONS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION FOR, UH, MS. WATSON FOR VICE CHAIR.

OKAY, LET'S SECOND THAT.

ALRIGHT.

THERE'S A NOMINATION OF MS. WATSON.

ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? LOOKING TO MY RIGHT.

LOOKING TO MY LEFT.

SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR VICE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR 2025.

RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALRIGHT.

STAFF THE OUTCOME AND THAT IS IN ABSTENTION.

AN ABSTENTION.

OKAY.

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JUST MAKING SURE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, I WON'T WAIT FOR THE STAFF.

UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON.

CONGRATULATIONS.

VICE CHAIR.

ALRIGHT, ANY NOMINATIONS AT THIS POINT FOR THE POSITION OF CHAIRMAN PRO TIM FOR THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR 2025? I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER.

WE ALRIGHT.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

THERE'S A NOMINATION OF COMMISSIONER WE AND A SECOND OR THREE.

UM, AND ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? LOOKING TO MY LEFT.

LOOKING TO MY RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER.

WE TO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN PRO TIM OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY, LET ME COUNT THOSE OUT.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S UNI UNANIMOUS? YES.

SO 11.

ALRIGHT.

UH, CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER.

WE ALRIGHT.

I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL THE OFFICERS, UH, POSITIONS WE HAVE.

UNLESS WE WANNA INVENT SOME MORE, BUT WE'LL DO THAT LATER.

AND UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AS ALWAYS.

UM, Y'ALL AS A COMMISSION MAKE THIS JOB TREMENDOUSLY EASY.

UM, AND YOU HAVE ONE MORE AND I DO HAVE, IS THERE ANY DIRECTOR'S REPORT? THERE IS NO DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

OKAY.

BUT

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YOU DO HAVE MINUTES.

I DO HAVE MINUTES.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AT THIS POINT IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? ANY AMENDMENTS? AMENDMENTS, CHANGES, REVISIONS.

LOOKING TO MY LEFT.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE.

ALRIGHT.

AT THIS POINT, UH, THE TIME IS 2 28 AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU MR. SIPES FOR YOUR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK HERE AS CHAIR.

AND CONGRATULATIONS TO A NEW, TO THE NEW APPOINTEES.