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GOOD AFTERNOON.WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL B SESSION OF SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2019.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIE GRAND HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL WILL NOT BE HERE.
WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL B SESSION AGENDA.
THE TIME IS 2:16 PM THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY, UH, STARTING WITH OUR FIRST OF THE BIANNUAL HIGH PROFILE REPORTS, UH, FOR CONTRACTS.
SO I'LL TOSS IT OVER TO ERIC WALL, STAR CITY MANAGER.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SO OUR FIRST ITEM IS A BRIEFING, A BIANNUAL FORECAST BRIEFING OF HIGH PROFILE PROCUREMENTS FROM FISCAL YEAR 2020.
UH, MANY OF YOU'LL RECALL THAT, UM, UH, THE COUNCIL ASKED US TO REVISIT, UH, THE PROCESS FOR HIGH, UM, HIGH, HIGH PROFILE CONTRACTS.
AND, UH, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS AT THE AUDIT AND CONTRACT COMMITTEE, AND PART OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE THAT TWICE A YEAR WE COME TO COUNCIL WITH A FORECAST OF WHAT THOSE HIGH PROFILE, UH, PROCUREMENTS ARE.
UM, AND AS WE GO THROUGH THEM, IT GIVES YOU, AS A BODY, A GROUP ALTOGETHER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT FORECAST AND IDENTIFY THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE BOTH PRE AND POSTS SOLICITATION BRIEFINGS AT A B SESSION, UH, RATHER THAN THROUGH THE, UH, AUDIT COMMITTEE.
UM, AND SO TROY IS GONNA WALK THROUGH THAT, UM, THAT FORECAST FOR, SO A HIGH PROFILE CONTRACT IS DEFINED AS A DISCRETIONARY SOLICITATION WITH A CONTRACT VALUE OF A MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE, HAS A HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUNITY INTEREST OR IS COMPLEX, HIGHLY COMPLEX OR TECHNICAL IN NATURE.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE LIST THAT TROY'S GONNA GO THROUGH.
ALL OF OUR PROCUREMENTS ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH AUDIT AND CON, UH, THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE PROCESS.
AND, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS RECOMMENDED APPROACH, UH, INCREASES TRANSPARENCY, GIVES YOU ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WAY IN ADVANCE OF, UH, SOMETHING B BE, UH, BEING, UH, INCLUDED ON THE A SESSION AGENDA.
UM, SO THAT TROY'S GONNA KICK US OFF ON THAT ISSUE, AND I DID WANNA SHARE, AND HE'LL PROBABLY INCLUDE IT, THERE WAS A PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION ON THIS PRESENTATION ON THE LIST THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE WITH THE AUDIT AND CONTRACT COMMITTEE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, I'M GONNA FOCUS ON PRIMARILY TWO AREAS OF MY PRESENTATION.
I'D LIKE TO FOCUS FIRST ON SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT A STAFF WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO THE HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATION PROCESS, REALLY TO INCREASE THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE COMMUNICATION AND DIALOGUE WITH CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE AWARENESS WITH THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
THE SECOND AREA I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON IS THE ACTUAL FORECAST.
UM, WE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO COME TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER A FORECAST FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, OCTOBER THROUGH MARCH.
AND THAT FORECAST WILL BE PRESENTED HERE A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
EMILY SHOULD HAVE PASSED OUT TO Y'ALL, AND Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE AT YOUR DESK A DOCUMENT.
UM, THIS DOCUMENT WILL FOLLOW THE PRESENTATION.
ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THIS DOCUMENT.
UM, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL IN HERE ONCE I START GOING THROUGH THE FORECAST THAT, UM, I PRESENT A SLIDE BEHIND THESE SLIDES.
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GONNA BE ADDITIONAL DETAIL ABOUT EACH OF THE CONTRACTS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO RUN THROUGH THE HIGH PROFILE, UM, PROCESS.THE FIRST SLIDE IS JUST A REMINDER ABOUT WHAT IS A HIGH PROFILE CONTRACT.
A HIGH PROFILE CONTRACT IS A DISCRETIONARY CONTRACT IS VALUED OVER $1 MILLION.
UM, AS A REMINDER, THE $1 MILLION IS ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE ETHICS CODE, SO THAT WILL NOT BE CHANGING.
A DISCRETIONARY CONTRACT IS JUST THAT.
IT'S A CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE DISCRETION ORDER TO MAKE CHANGES.
LOW BID CONTRACTS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PROCESS.
A LOW BID CONTRACT IS SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE AWARD IT BASED ON SPECIFICATIONS, IT'S GONNA BE AWARDED BASED ON PRICE ALONE.
THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE LOOK AT IN ADDITION TO 1 MILLION FOR THE HIGH PROFILE DEFINITION IS DOES IT GENERATE A HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUNITY INTEREST OR OTHER EXCEPTIONAL INTEREST, OR IS IT HIGHLY COMPLEX OR TECHNICAL IN NATURE OR CONTRACT TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT ARE NON-STANDARD OR COMPLEX? AS IT SATISFIES ANY ONE OF THESE AREAS, WE BRING IT INTO THE, UM, THE HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATION PROCESS.
A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS I'LL SHARE WITH YOU IS THIS DEFINITION IS REALLY WHAT ESTABLISHES ALL THE SOLICITATIONS TO BE PRESENTED THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE.
WHEN WE PRESENT TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE, WE PRESENT IN TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES SIMILAR TO TODAY, AS WE DO IN THE A SESSION, UM, AGENDA, WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL AND CONSENT ITEMS. WE PRESENT THOSE ITEMS TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY AS WELL.
TYPICALLY, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE NON-ROUTINE, THEY JUST PRETTY MUCH SATISFY THE, THE BUBBLE TO THE LEFT OF 1 MILLION OR MORE, THEN THEY WOULD BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IF THEY START MOVING INTO A HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUNITY INTEREST OR THEY'RE HIGHLY COMPLEX AND TECHNICAL IN NATURE, THEN WE HAVE CITY DEPARTMENTS COME IN AND DO AN INDIVIDUAL BRIEFING TO THE COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE DEVELOPED A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY NOW WITH THE HIGH PROFILE PROJECTS.
LOOKING BACK OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE AVERAGE ABOUT 41 SOLICITATIONS A YEAR THAT ARE ISSUED THAT MEET THAT HIGH LEVEL, UH, OR THAT HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATION DEFINITION.
AND YOU CAN SEE I JUST WENT THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL CONSENT AND LOOKING AT 19, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WERE 12 CONSENT ITEMS AND 21 INDIVIDUAL ITEMS FOR A TOTAL OF 33 SOLICITATIONS.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'D POINT OUT IS THAT ALTHOUGH THERE ARE 33 SOLICITATIONS ERIC MENTIONED A LITTLE WHILE AGO THAT WE GO THROUGH WITH A PRES SOLICITATION BRIEFING AND A POSTS SOLICITATION BRIEFING, THAT REALLY EQUATES TO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN 1966, UM, BRIEFINGS THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE.
AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, A PRES SOLICITATION BRIEFING, AND WE'LL BE RECOMMENDING THAT AS WELL AS FAR AS THE, THE B SESSION, BUT A PRES SOLICITATION BRIEFING.
THOSE INCLUDE A BACKGROUND OR A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF SCOPE, THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT, THE EVALUATION CRITERIA, THE EVALUATION POINTS, WHO IS MAKING THE EVALUATION TEAM, AND ALSO WHAT, UM, PREFERENCES ARE BEING PRI PROVIDED IN TERMS OF LOCAL VETERANS AND VEDA.
ONCE WE HAVE COMPLETED THAT PRES SOLICITATION, THEN THE R F P OR R R F Q HITS THE STREETS.
WE CONDUCT THE EVALUATION, WE RETURN BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND A POST SOLICITATION BRIEFING IN WHICH WE SHARE THE EVALUATION RESULTS AS WELL AS THE DUE DILIGENCE FROM MY DEPARTMENT AND, UM, KEVIN BARTELL'S DEPARTMENT FROM THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE.
THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES HIGHLIGHT THE, UM, CHANGES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO THE PROCESS.
FIRST OF ALL, JUST TO REITERATE, THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE DEFINITION OF A HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATION.
AS I MENTIONED, IT'S ESTABLISHED IN THE CITY ETHICS CODE AS FAR AS THE 1 MILLION.
UM, BUT OF AND BEYOND THAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER CATEGORY OR CRITERIA THAT WE ARE DESIGNING OR THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO SET GUIDELINES FOR THOSE THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED AT A B SESSION, WHICH WE ARE CALLING, UM, SELECT.
SO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THESE CRITERIA OR GUIDELINES TOGETHER, WE WENT BACK THAT HISTORICAL ON THE SLIDE THAT I JUST PRESENTED AND LOOKED FOR THOSE COMMON CHARACTERISTICS THAT THAT WOULD REALLY GENERATE A RISE TO THE LEVEL OF B SESSION TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
AND IN DOING THAT, WE CAME UP WITH THESE COMMON THEMES OR GUIDELINES THAT THOSE WOULD HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT TO $25 MILLION OR GREATER, A CONTRACT TERM OF 10 YEARS OR MORE.
A HIGH LEVEL OF POLICY OR PUBLIC SAFETY IMPLICATIONS, A HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUNITY OR STAKEHOLDER IMPACT OR INTEREST.
AND THE BOTTOM ONE IS PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT.
WE AS STAFF, WORKING THROUGH THESE CONTRACTS YEAR OVER YEAR, WE DO HAVE SOME HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE AS FAR AS, UM, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
AND WE'LL USE THAT TO BASICALLY DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT THESE SHOULD BE PRESENTED IN A B SESSION, UM, AS A SELECT, UM, HIGH PROFILE CATEGORY.
MOVING TO THE FAR RIGHT BLOCK, AS I MENTIONED, THESE WOULD BE COMING THROUGH TO YOU IN A FORECAST ON SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS THIS MONTH FOR THE OCTOBER THROUGH MARCH TIMEFRAME.
AND THEN WE'D BE COMING BACK TO YOU IN FEBRUARY WITH A VERY SIMILAR PRESENTATION.
WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS WE RECOMMEND THESE ITEMS THAT ARE SELECTED FOR B SESSION PRESENTATION, THAT THEY'D COME THROUGH Y'ALL TWICE, JUST AS WE DO WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE
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IN A PLEA PRES SOLICITATION BRIEFING BEFORE THE R F P GOES OUT ON THE STREETS.AND ALSO ONCE THE EVALUATION'S BEEN CONCLUDED, UM, AS A POST SOLICITATION BRIEFING.
SO THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA BE SELECTED FOR, UH, B SESSION IN THE FAR LEFT BLOCK, AS I MENTIONED, THEY'D BE COMING THROUGH TWICE A YEAR.
WE WOULD NOT BE RECOMMENDING THAT THESE ITEMS GO BACK THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE PRESENTATION, THAT THEY WOULD COME DIRECTLY TO B SESSION OR TO BE EFFICIENT WITH THE USE OF TIME AND TO, UM, CONCLUDING THE SOLICITATION RESPONDENT NAMES, UM, WOULD BE, WOULD BE PROVIDED AT THE B SESSION.
THIS IS A CHANGE FROM THE PAST.
WE THINK BY PROVIDING THE NAMES OF THE FIRMS THAT HAVE PROPOSED WOULD BASICALLY INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND ALSO GIVE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH STAFF AND ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
UM, WHY SPECIFIC FIRMS WERE BEING RECOMMENDED OVER OTHER FIRMS. THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE RESTRICTIONS ON COMMUNICATIONS.
UM, IF YOU RECALL THE RESTRICTIONS ON COMMUNICATIONS OR IN EFFECT FROM THE TIME THAT AN R F P IS ACTUALLY ISSUED TO THE TIME THAT IS PLACED ON AN A SESSION AGENDA.
SO WHEN WE ARE HAVING THESE B SESSION PRESENTATIONS, IT WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE DIALOGUES WITH STAFF, BUT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY TALK TO THE VENDORS OR LOBBYISTS AT THAT TIME UNTIL IT IS ACTUALLY PLACED ON A SESSION FOR COUNCIL ACTION.
THE MIDDLE BLOCK, THE HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATIONS, THOSE ARE GONNA BE THOSE ITEMS THAT, UM, ARE NOT PRESENTED AT B SESSION.
THOSE THAT SATISFY A MILLION DOLLARS OVER AND THE CRITERIA I MENTIONED BEFORE, THOSE WOULD ALSO BE GOING THROUGH THE AUDIT ACCOUNTABILITY TWICE A YEAR.
THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE HAS REQUESTED THAT WE DO NOT SHARE WITH THEM THE RESPONDENT NAMES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE PRO KEEP IT FOCUSED ON THE PROCESS FOR THE PROCUREMENT.
AND AFTER THEY HAVE SEEN THE ACTUAL OR HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THE ACTUAL PROCUREMENT, WE WOULD GO BACK TO THEM AFTER THAT, AFTER THAT COMMITTEE MEETING IN THE FORM OF A MEMORANDUM, SHARING WITH THEM THE RESPONDENT NAMES FOR THE SOLICITATIONS THEY JUST HEARD.
AND AGAIN, NO CHANGE TO RESTRICTIONS ON COMMUNICATIONS.
COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WERE TO ACTUALLY COME BACK AND PROVIDE THE INITIAL AND THE FINAL SCORE MATRICES, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT WITH THE COMMITTEE OVER THE LAST MONTH OR TWO, AND IT ACTUALLY HAS INCREASED THE TRANSPARENCY AND A LOT OF DIALOGUE WITH THE COMMITTEE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS ON THE INITIAL THAT, UM, AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE WILL SCORE THE PAPER PROPOSALS, THEY ACTUALLY SCORE THOSE PROPOSALS AND THEY HAVE A INITIAL MATRIX.
THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AFTER THAT INITIAL SCORING TO GO BACK AND DO EITHER A BEST AND FINAL OFFER TO HAVE SITE VISITS OR TO ACTUALLY CONDUCT INTERVIEWS.
AND THERE WILL BE A FINAL SCORE, MATRICE, THAT HAS DEVELOPED.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHT AND SHOW Y'ALL BOTH ON THE COUNCIL ITEMS AND AT THE COMMITTEE, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE CHANGES THAT OCCURRED BETWEEN THOSE TWO DIFFERENT EVALUATIONS.
THE LAST ITEM IS INCREASING THE STANDARD ADVERTISING PERIOD FROM 30 TO 45 DAYS.
HISTORICALLY, UM, THE, ONCE THE R F P IS RELEASED, IT'S BEEN ABOUT 30 DAY TIMELINE TO ACTUALLY THE DEADLINE FOR THE RESPONDENTS TO ACTUALLY SUBMIT THEIR PROPOSALS.
THE COMMITTEE REQUESTED US TO EXTEND THAT TO 45 DAYS TO GIVE POTENTIAL RESPONDENTS MORE TIME TO PREPARE THEIR PROPOSALS IN YOUR, I'M GONNA NOW MOVE ON TO THE ACTUAL HIGH HIGH PROFILE FORECAST.
SO IN YOUR BOOK, YOU WILL HAVE A TAB THAT IS CALLED SELECT.
BEHIND THAT SELECT TAB, YOU WILL HAVE THE SLIDE THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN AND BEHIND THAT TAB YOU WILL HAVE MORE DETAIL AS FAR AS, UM, UH, COINCIDING WITH EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT PROCUREMENTS.
SO IN LOOKING, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS I JUST DESCRIBED AND LOOKING AT ALL THE HIGH PROFILE PROCUREMENTS, THERE WERE THREE THAT WE'D BE RECOMMENDING OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THAT WE FEEL RISE TO THE LEVEL OF THOSE NEEDING TO BE OR RECOMMENDING TO BE PRESENTED TO THE FULL COUNCIL IN THE B SESSION.
THE FIRST OF WHICH IS AN AVIATION DEPARTMENT CONTRACT, OR SOLICITATION, WHICH IS TERMINAL BEEF, FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCESSIONS.
AND LOOKING AT THE DETAIL BEHIND THAT, THIS WOULD BE A CONTRACT THAT WOULD BE SEVEN YEARS AT 8.1 MILLION.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE BELIEVE HAS A HIGH COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER INTEREST.
AND BASED ON OUR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENTS, WE'D BE RECOMMENDING THAT COME TO THE FULL, FULL COUNSEL AND A B SESSION.
THE SECOND ITEM IS THE, IS, UM, THE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING FOR 2021, I MEAN 21 AND 22 THROUGH D H S, ABOUT 42.4 MILLION, AND THAT'S A BIANNUAL, THAT'S A TWO YEAR CONTRACT.
AND THEN LAST WOULD BE THROUGH T C I WOULD BE THE HEMISPHERE CIVIC PARK.
SO THESE THREE ITEMS ARE THE ITEMS, AND I'LL BE GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE CONTRACTS OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
AND AS YOU'RE REVIEWING THOSE, THESE THREE ITEMS ARE WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
AND AS I GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'LL BE SEEKING INPUT FROM YOU AS A COUNCIL IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVED UP INTO A SELECT PRESENTATION OR TO BE MOVED BACK DOWN TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.
SO WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT INPUT FROM Y'ALL TODAY.
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THROUGH TO THE NEXT TAB LABELED HIGH PROFILE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO SLIDES.THE FIRST IS GONNA BE HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATIONS THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED TO GO THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE AS AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM.
AGAIN, THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS ARE ITEMS THAT TYPICALLY, BASED ON THE DEFINITION OF A HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATION, ARE GONNA BE MORE COMPLEX IN NATURE OR HAVE COMPLEX TERMS AND CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
I WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT THERE IS PRO, THERE ARE 12 SOLICITATIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR INDIVIDUAL, UM, OUT OF SIX DEPARTMENTS, HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THEM THAT WERE, THAT ARE IN HERE.
THE AVIATION DEPARTMENT IS THE TERMINAL AB NEWS, GIFTS, RETAIL CONCESSIONS FOR C C D O, THE ZAMAR PROPERTY REDEVELOPMENT, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BOND PROGRAM.
AND AGAIN, BEHIND THIS SLIDE IS ALL THE DETAIL.
THE NEXT AREA ARE CONSENT ITEMS THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO GO THROUGH THE AUDIT ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE.
AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE, THESE ARE GONNA SATISFY THE CRI CRITERIA BEING OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT THEY REALLY DON'T RISE TO THAT LEVEL OF BEING.
UM, THEY ARE REALLY GONNA BE NON, THEY'RE REALLY GONNA BE ROUTINE ITEMS, AND WE FEEL THAT THE CONSENT BRIEFING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
AND JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THAT, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE LIST, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULD HAVE THE RADIO FREQUENCY ID SOFTWARE SUPPORT MAINTENANCE FOR THE LIBRARY, FAIRLY ROUTINE VERSUS A, FOR EXAMPLE, I T S D IS A MONKEY FOLKS MULTIFUNCTIONAL DEVICES, WHICH ARE OUR PRINTERS.
SO ALTHOUGH THEY RISE AND THEY SATISFY THAT MILLION DOLLAR CRITERIA, THEY REALLY ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT ARE VERY COMPLEX OR GENERATE A LOT OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
SO WE'D BE RECOMMENDING THAT THESE ITEMS ON THIS SCREEN GO TO THE AUDIT, AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE AS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.
THIS LAST AREA, AND THIS IS PURELY GONNA BE BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING, IT'S GONNA PURELY BE TRANSITIONAL IN NATURE.
THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS UNDER YOUR LAST TAB IN YOUR BINDER.
SO THESE ARE ITEMS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE.
THEY HAVE ALL, THEY HAVE HEARD THESE IN THE FORM OF A PRES SOLICITATION BRIEFING.
THESE ARE ALL PENDING POST SOLICITATIONS, MEANING THAT THE RFPS ARE OUT ON THE STREET OR THEY'RE CURRENTLY BEING EVALUATED.
UM, AND THEY WOULD GO BACK THROUGH THE COMMITTEE AS AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM.
THERE ARE THREE ON HERE THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IN ADDITION TO THE THREE I MENTIONED EARLIER, COMING BACK THROUGH THE B SESSION TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
THE FIRST ONE, OF COURSE, IS THE DOCKLESS VEHICLES AS A RESULT OF THE POLICY AND PUBLIC SAFETY IMPLICATIONS.
AND Y'ALL HEARD THAT AS WELL IN THE PRE.
THE SECOND WOULD BE THE CITY TOWER FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCEPTS UP THROUGH C C D O.
AND THEN THE LAST, THAT'S ACTUALLY, UM, WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA TODAY FOR THE AUTOMATED TICKETING SYSTEM, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY PATRICIA FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION THIS AFTERNOON.
THE LAST SLIDE ARE A LIST OF CONSENT ITEMS THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE GO, THAT ARE STILL IN PROGRESS AND THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO GO BACK THROUGH THE, UM, THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE.
SO IN SUMMARY, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND SO REALLY YOU HAVE THREE CATEGORIES OF, UM, HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATIONS, THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN SELECTED BASED ON THAT CRITERIA THAT WE IDENTIFIED TO GO BACK TO B SESSION, THOSE THAT ARE HIGH PROFILE IN NATURE AND WOULD BE PROPOSED AND RECOMMENDED TO GO THROUGH TO THE STAY WITH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE, AND THEN THOSE THAT ARE IN PROGRESS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS HERE WITH US IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE PROCUREMENTS IN THE LIST THAT I JUST PRESENTED.
UH, TROY, UM, WE'LL GO INTO COUNCIL, UH, QUESTION AND COMMENT AT THIS POINT.
WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY IN, IN AUDIT, UM, AND I WANT TO GO TO SLIDE FIVE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE FIVE, ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, KEY POINTS I MADE YESTERDAY IN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WAS, UM, GIVE THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE IN THAT, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT NO CHANGE TO RESTRICTION ON COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT ANDY RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO TO THE, UH, E R B TO, TO GET SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS? UH, ABSOLUTELY.
COUNCILMAN, YES, AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE THAT THE, UH, THE TIMEFRAME IN TERMS OF THE NO COMMUNICATIONS IS, IS ESTABLISHED BY THE ETHICS CODE.
AND, UH, SO THE ETHICS CODE CAN BE CHANGED, BUT USUALLY THE PROCESS FOR THAT IS TO HAVE THE, UH, ETHICS REVIEW BOARD TAKE A LOOK AT THE ISSUE, AND, UH, THEN PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
AND COUNSEL CAN THEN DETERMINE WHETHER, UH, TO TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION OR NOT.
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WITH KEVIN, UH, AND YOUR OFFICE, UH, PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA AND MAKE SURE THE E R B RECOGNIZES, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE ISSUE'S COMING FROM AND WHAT THE OBJECTIVE, UH, UH, THE COUNCIL MAY BE TRYING TO REACH IN TERMS OF PROVIDING MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF THAT, THAT TIMING.WE TALKED, WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT ANDY, TO, TO BE CLEAR, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT WAS MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT TIME TO BE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES, CORRECT? THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
I MEAN, WE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, IN FACT, KEVIN AND I SPOKE JUST BEFORE THE MEETING, WE WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR AT, AT LEAST AS I UNDERSTAND, YOUR INTENT IS NOT TO ELIMINATE IT, BUT SIMPLY TO PROVIDE MORE TIME.
AND SO WE'LL MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR WHEN WE, WHEN WE GIVE THAT BACKGROUND TO THE E R B, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME EXAMPLES OF WHERE WE'VE COMPRESSED THE TIME.
SO DEPENDING ON WHEN THAT'S PUT ON THE AGENDA, WE THEN HAVE THIS COMPRESSED PERIOD OF TIME, CORRECT? CORRECT.
IT'S, UH, DE DEPENDING ON WHEN, UH, IT'S POSTED, THAT GIVES, UH, ON, ON OCCASION A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE THAT I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
WELL, SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA PARK IT RIGHT THERE BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF RELATED TO THE NEXT ITEM.
UH, YOU KNOW, TODAY WE'RE, WE'RE BEING BRIEFED ON A COUPLE THINGS.
TOMORROW WE'RE TAKING ACTION ON, ON A, ON A ITEM.
AND I'LL, I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT.
BUT I THINK YOU CAN SEE HOW THESE TWO ARE RELATED.
AND THE FACT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO, TO HAVE THE, THE TIME TO, TO TAKE BRIEFINGS, TO ASK QUESTIONS, TO GET TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE INTENT OF THESE, UH, SOLICITATIONS ARE ALL ABOUT.
DID THE R F P, YOU KNOW, AS AN AUDIT COMMITTEE, UH, WE ONLY LOOK AT SORT OF PART OF THE PROCESS.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY LOOK AT THE ENTIRE INTENT OR A LOT OF THE STORIES BEHIND IT.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T TALK TO THE, TO THE, THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE AWARDED.
WE ONLY SEE, YOU KNOW, RESPONDENT ONE, RESPONDENT TWO, AND, UM, AND I, I THINK THIS IS THE KEY POINT I WILL MAKE IN, IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, IN, IN BOTH OF THESE, UH, PRESENTATIONS BECAUSE, UH, I THINK WE NEED TIME.
WE NEED TIME TO, TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY VOTING ON.
AND, UH, AND I, AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND, UM, COUNCILMAN, UH, ROCHA GARCIA, WERE, WERE THERE.
AND, UH, I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS COUNCILMAN, UM, ABOUT, EXTENSIVELY ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T COMPRESS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE ARE VOTING ON ITEMS. IN FACT, WE ARE BRIEFING, WE BRIEF HERE AT B SESSION, AND THEN 18 HOURS LATER WE'RE TAKING A VOTE THAT I THINK THAT'S JUST NOT, NOT, UH, NOT GOOD FOR THE PROCESS.
AND CERTAINLY I JUST WANT TO KIND OF SPEAK UP TO SPEAK TO THAT.
AND LIKE I SAID, I'LL, I'LL HAVE MORE COMMENTS REGARDING THE NEXT ITEM AS IT RELATES TO THIS AS WELL.
AND, AND MY COMMENTS WERE SIMILAR OR QUESTIONS WERE SIMILAR TO TRAVINO.
WHAT WAS THE DECISION PROCESS IN THE COMMITTEE FOR NO CHANGE TO RESTRICT COMMUNICATIONS? WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED IN CITY CODE.
AND SO BASICALLY ON, SINCE IT'S ACTUALLY CODE, THEN WE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CHANGE.
IT'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT, THAT, UM, ANDY JUST DESCRIBED, LIKE THROUGH A C C R OR AS PART OF THE CHARTER.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IT'S, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, IT'S IN THE ETHICS, UH, IT'S IN THE ETHICS CODE.
SO IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THAT, HOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS OF FOR CHANGING THAT? THE, THE, UH, THE PROCESS FOR CHANGING THE ETHICS CODE IS, UH, SOMETIMES THERE'S A GENERIC REVIEW BY THE E R B.
IN OTHER WORDS, EVERY FEW YEARS, SOMETIMES THEY TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UH, THERE ARE ISSUES, SOME SOMETIMES THAT COME UP IN WHICH THEY TAKE THESE SINGLE ISSUES AND LOOK AT IT.
BUT THE PROCESS IS, THE ISSUES PUT BEFORE THE E R B, UH, UH, THEY STUDY IT, THEY ANALYZE IT, UH, THEY THEN FORMULATE A RECOMMENDATION THAT GOES TO COUNCIL, AND THEN THE COUNCIL VOTES IS WHETHER TO CHANGE IT OR NOT.
AND I KNOW MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE HERE WAS ON THE E R B FOR MANY YEARS AND DID, UM, CREDIBLE WORK THERE.
SO MAYBE WHEN MAYBE YOU, WHEN YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK, YOU CAN, UH, I, YOU CAN RESPOND TO THAT.
BUT I GUESS THE OTHER, UH, QUESTION IS, I KNOW THAT, SO NOT SO LONG AGO WE WENT THROUGH THIS EXERCISE BECAUSE WE LIMITED THE COMMUNICATION TO THE NONPROFITS, UH, OR, OR FROM THE NONPROFITS ABOUT THEIR SOLICITATION.
SO, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE INDEPENDENT ETHICS REVIEW.
UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T REMEMBER THE PROCESS, BUT IT USED TO BE THAT THE NONPROFITS COULD APPROACH US AT ANY TIME, AND THEN WE CHANGED IT TO LIKE A YEAR BEFORE OR SOME AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO WHAT ABOUT THAT, UH, UH, IF I MAY MAYOR, UH, RESPOND TO THE COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK YOU'RE REMEMBERING COUNCILWOMAN, THE DELEGATE AGENCY EXCEPTION.
I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S A NONPROFIT, AND THAT DID GO THROUGH THE PROCESS I JUST DESCRIBED.
SO IT DID GO THROUGH THE ETHICS REVIEW? YES.
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ALL RIGHT.I DON'T REMEMBER THAT, BUT, UM, UH, I, I REMEMBER THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THE DECISION WAS MADE FAIRLY QUICKLY TO ALLOW THE NONPROFITS TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.
MAYBE WE WENT FROM SIX MONTHS TO THREE MONTHS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW, UH, IT COULD BE AN ISSUE THAT COULD BE FAIRLY QUICKLY REVIEWED BY THE ETHICS REVIEW BOARD, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT ONE ISSUE.
AS I SAID, PERIODICALLY, THEY TAKE A, A WHOLE, A HOLISTIC LOOK AT IT, UH, AND THEN OFFER RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOLISTIC CHANGES.
BUT, UH, THEY DO LOOK ON A ISSUE BY ISSUE IF, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS, WANTS THEM TO CONSIDER THAT.
UM, I, I DO THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH THESE, AND, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, IN THE COUPLE OF SCENARIOS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH PROFILE ONES THAT RELATED TO THE BARGE CONTRACT, AND THEN THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW, UH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT OF COURSE COMES TO MIND.
OH, THE AIRPORT CONCESSION THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH NOT TOO LONG AGO, THAT THERE WAS A VERY BRIEF PERIOD FROM THE TIME THAT THE RESTRICTION WAS LIFTED TILL THE TIME THAT WE COULD HAVE COMMUNICATION.
AND BECAUSE ONE OF, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COMMUNICATION WAS LIFTED ON A FRIDAY, AND THEN WE WERE GONNA VOTE THAT WEDNESDAY.
THERE WAS VERY FEW WORKING DAYS TO DISCUSS.
UM, I'M SORRY, ERIC, DID YOU WANNA RESPOND? YEAH, I WAS GONNA, JUST FOR THE, FOR THE, EVERYBODY WATCHING, AND JUST TO RE-CLARIFY, SO WHAT THE ETHICS REVIEW CODE SAYS, ETHICS CODE SAYS IS THAT ONCE AN ITEM IS POSTED FOR A SESSION, THEN THAT CONE OF SILENCE IS UP.
SO IF WE POST, WE, WE TYPICALLY POST WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
AND WHAT COUNCILMAN TNO WAS DESCRIBING IS THEN, THEN, UH, ONCE WE POST IT ON THE A SESSION ON THE ETHICS CODE, THEN THEN YOU VOTE ON IT THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY.
AND, AND I THINK WHAT, WHAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO IS ASKING, WE WE'LL BE ASKING THE E R B TO LOOK AT IS WHETHER OR NOT THAT ONE WEEK TIMEFRAME FROM WHEN WE POST WEDNESDAY NIGHT TO WHEN YOU ACTUALLY VOTE ON THURSDAY, UM, SHOULD THAT TIME BE LONGER OR LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS IN ADDITIONAL TIME? AND SO, UM, AND, AND, UH, THAT'LL BE THE ISSUE THAT'LL BE SENT BACK TO THE ETHICS REVIEW BOARD FOR THEIR INPUT.
WHAT TRIGGERS IT AS THE, A SESSION AGENDA IS THE, A SESSION AGENDA AND NOT AFTER IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY THE AUDIT COMMITTEE? WELL, IT, UH, BEFORE IT GETS ON THE AGENDA, IT'S, IT'S GONE THROUGH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE OR UNDER THIS NEW PROPOSAL, WE'LL HAVE GONE THROUGH A B SESSION.
BUT ONCE IT GOES THROUGH THOSE REVIEWS, THE ETHICS REVIEW CODE, UH, POINTS BACK TO ONCE IT'S POSTED ON THE A SESSION AGENDA, THAT'S THE TRIGGER.
AND, AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR ADDING THIS COMPONENT TO, UM, OUR AGENDA.
AND SO, I MEAN, I THINK, I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE NOT GIVEN ALL THE INFORMATION, UH, AND THEN SCRAMBLING AT THE LAST MINUTE TO ASK A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.
AND I KNOW I, FOR ONE, UH, AM VERY RESPECTFUL OF THOSE ETHICS RULES.
WE DON'T WANNA BREAK ANY OF THEM BECAUSE IT'S, UH, I THINK AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE NOT ONLY HAVE TO BE ETHICAL ALL THE TIME, WE ALSO HAVE TO GIVE THE APPEARANCE OF BEING ETHICAL.
SO WE DON'T WANNA BREAK ANY OF THE RULES.
UH, AND I KNOW THAT CERTAINLY THE PEOPLE SOLICITING, UH, DON'T WANT TO EITHER.
WE DON'T WANNA PUT ANYBODY IN JEOPARDY, AND SOMETIMES THERE'S A FINE LINE.
SO, UH, I HOPE THAT BY LIFTING THOSE COMMUNICATIONS SOONER, UM, IT THEN PREVENTS US FROM VIOLATING ANY ETHICS LAWS.
IN FACT, MAYBE THAT CAN BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
IF WE DID LIFT IT SOONER, WOULD IT, UM, THEN FREE US FROM SOME OF THESE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE? UH, EXACTLY.
COUNCILMAN, UH, THE, THE, THE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA PUT IN FRONT OF THE E R B IS, UH, THE ISSUE OF WHETHER THAT TIME PERIOD AT, AS ERIC SAID, IS BETWEEN THE TIME WE POST AND THE TIME YOU VOTE, WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE EXTENDED.
SO THE QUESTION WILL BE HOW LONG IT'S EXTENDED, WHAT'LL TRIGGER THE EXTENSION.
BUT ONE, IF THE E R B, FOR EXAMPLE, DOES COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO EXTEND IT, AND THEN THE COUNCIL VOTES TO APPROVE THAT, THEN YOU HAVE A NEW ETHICS RULE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR WHAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO IS SUGGESTING, WHICH IS THE ADDITIONAL TIME.
WELL, UM, THANK YOU, UM, VERY MUCH FOR ALL THIS.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THESE THAT ARE COMING UP, WHICH WE KNOW ARE REALLY CRITICAL.
THE, UM, AIRPORT TERMINAL, THE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING FOR OUR DELEGATE AGENCIES AND HEMISPHERE, CIVIC PARK, ALL REALLY LARGE, UM, IN TERMS OF, OF THEIR DOLLAR AMOUNTS, UM, BUT ALSO REALLY CRITICAL FOR I THINK, OUR CULTURE AS WELL, WHICH HAS BEEN, UH, ONE OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR THIS AS WELL.
OH, IF I MAY, THE ONE ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, UM, IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR POINT ON TIMELINESS, BUT THE ONE THING,
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ONE CHANGE THAT WE DID MAKE THAT I THINK GOES A LONG WAY IN TRANSPARENCY IS THAT, AS I MENTIONED, WHEN WE GO TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE, THEY'RE STILL GONNA STICK ON PROCESS.BUT AFTER THAT COMMITTEE MEETING IS OVER, WE WOULD RELEASE THOSE RESPONDENT NAMES, AND WE WOULD DO THAT TO THE FULL COUNCIL AS WELL IN THE B SESSION.
WE WILL BE DISCLOSING THOSE RESPONDENT NAMES IN THE B SESSION AS WELL.
SO I THINK ALTHOUGH YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH SOME OF THE CURRENT RESPONDENTS UNDER THE CURRENT ETHICS CODE, IT WILL STILL ALLOW YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME VISIBILITY INTO THE PROCESS AND HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH STAFF ABOUT THOSE SPECIFIC RESPONDENTS.
UH, OUR COMMITTEE, UH, UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN PLACE, AND WE AGREED WITH IT.
WE'VE DECIDED WE DON'T WANNA KNOW, UH, THE NAMES OF ANY OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED, AND UNTIL AFTER WE MAKE A DECISION AS A COMMITTEE TO RECOMMEND THIS FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL.
HOWEVER, WE, WE DID AGREE THAT ONCE THAT DECISION'S MADE, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY NECESSITY TO KEEP THAT INFORMATION, UH, A SECRET, SO TO SPEAK.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING ENOUGH TIME FOR THE COUNCIL TO DELIBERATE ON THIS AND MAYBE TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM STAFF, BUT EVEN FROM THE, UH, THE DIFFERENT VENDORS WHO MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, WE CAN ONLY RECEIVE THAT INPUT FROM THE VENDOR AFTER IT'S POSTED TO OUR A SESSION.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO START RELEASING THE NAMES OF THE VENDORS INVOLVED AFTER THE DECISION'S BEEN MADE BY OUR COMMITTEE TO RECOMMEND FORWARD, OR IF WE'RE GONNA HOLD A B SESSION, AND UPON THAT B SESSION, WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND THOSE NAMES, EXCUSE ME, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE E R B THAT THEY CONSIDER CHANGING THE, UH, THE BLACKOUT PERIOD AND, UH, END IT AS SOON AS THOSE NAMES ARE RELEASED, EITHER AFTER THE, UH, AUDIT COMMITTEE MAKES ITS DECISION, OR AFTER THE COUNCIL, HERE'S THE B SESSION.
THAT WOULD GIVE US A LOT MORE TIME BEFORE AN A SESSION TO GO AHEAD AND CONSIDER THAT KIND OF INPUT THAT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR US.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION TO THAT.
WE HAD A REPORT YESTERDAY IN OUR AUDIT COMMITTEE TO TODAY, WE'RE HAVING A B SESSION TOMORROW.
WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT'S VERY UNUSUAL, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO AVOID FROM HAPPENING, UH, ANY OTHER TIME IN THE FUTURE.
I UNDERSTAND WE'RE UP AGAINST A TIMEFRAME WHERE THIS CONTRACT EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT DONE.
UH, BUT I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO A SIMILAR TYPE OF A SITUATION AND WE GIVE OURSELVES THAT ADDITIONAL TIME.
WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, REVIEW ALL OF THE COMPONENTS THAT GO INTO THIS PROCESS BEFORE WE HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND START, UH, MAKING THE DELIBERATION.
SO OTHERWISE, I THINK THE, THE PROCESS YOU'RE RECOMMENDING AND THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS AGREED TO IS A GOOD ONE.
UH, AND I WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT, UH, COULD BE ON CONSENT, WE TELL EVERYBODY ON THE, UH, AUDIT COMMITTEE, REVIEW THIS MATERIAL AS SOON AS IT'S SENT TO YOU.
AND IF YOU FEEL SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF CONSENT AND NEEDS TO HAVE, UH, A FORMAL ADDRESS BY THE COMMITTEE, THEN ANY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
JUST AS WE DO IN OUR NORMAL COUNCIL MEETINGS.
WE CAN TAKE THINGS OFF CONSENT AND ADDRESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
SO I, I THINK THAT BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT CONSENT ITEMS BEING FAIRLY ROUTINE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OF A NATURE THAT THEY'RE REPETITIVE, THEY'RE FILLING IN FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IT'S PRETTY EASY JUST TO ABIDE BY THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE STAFF PUTS TOGETHER.
HOWEVER, WE CAN PULL ANY OF THOSE OFF CONSENT AND, AND ADDRESS 'EM INDIVIDUALLY.
SO WE STILL HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO GET INTO THE WEEDS IF WE NEED TO ON ANY ISSUE THAT COMES BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE.
ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE POINTS.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE YESTERDAY AT OUR, AT OUR AUDIT COMMITTEE, WE DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE E R B TO CONSIDER ON THEIR NEXT AGENDA THIS.
SO I JUST WANNA LET MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT WEREN'T THERE YESTERDAY KNOW THAT WE DID MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
UM, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE GET A FORECAST.
I KNOW I GOT A FORECAST AND I ASKED ALL OF MY QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL 50 PLUS ITEMS AT THAT TIME, AND I'VE ALREADY BEEN BRIEFED ON A LOT OF THEM.
SO A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS WERE RESOLVED.
SO I KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME, UM, ISSUE ABOUT THE TIMELINESS OF SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT WE DO GET A FORECAST.
SO I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO FULLY READ IT AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME.
I THINK IT WOULD HELP STAFF A LOT, BENEFIT THEM SO
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THAT THEY CAN ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME.UM, BUT THEN I DO WANNA REFER TO COUNCILWOMAN, UM, GONZALEZ'S QUESTION.
AND ON MAY 18TH, AT THE B SESSION IN 2018, I BRIEFED THE COUNCIL BECAUSE I WAS E R B CHAIR AT THE TIME ABOUT, UH, THE SPECIFICALLY MUNICIPAL CAMPAIGN FINANCE CODE AND RELATED TO NONPROFITS.
AND THERE WE WERE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION IN ITS SECTION TWO DASH 3 0 9, SECTION A CURRENTLY PROHIBITIONS RELATED TO NONPROFIT ENTITIES EXIST IN RELATION TO HIGH PROFILE CONTRACT SOLICITATIONS.
THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS SHALL NOT MAKE A CON, UH, POLITICAL CONTRIBUTION.
THEN WE GO ON TO SAY ANY OWNER OR OFFICER OF ANY ENTITY SEEKING A HIGH PROFILE CONTRACT.
BUT I THINK THAT WE ARE CONFUSING THE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE THEN A MONTH LATER, SO ON JUNE THE 12TH, 2018, COUNCILMAN COURAGE ACTUALLY ON THE DAIS BROUGHT UP A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE CHANGE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ IS REFERRING TO, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, I STEPPED UP AGAIN TO THE MIC AND I COMPLETELY BROKE OUT ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
AND I ASKED THE MAYOR FOR PERMISSION TO SPEAK AGAIN, AND I ASKED FOR THE RECORD TO FULLY REFLECT THAT THE ETHICS REVIEW BOARD HAD NOT, UH, AT ALL CONSIDERED THIS NEW CHANGE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ON THE DA.
AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND MY FELLOW COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT THE E R B CAN MAKE EVERY RECOMMENDATION THEY WANT, BUT YOU ALL, WE ALL STILL HAVE THE DECISION TO ACT ON OUR OWN.
SO EVEN IF WE GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ETHICS REVIEW BOARD, WE COULD TAKE IT, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, OR NOT.
UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THAT, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT SAME AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN TREVINO AND COUNCILMAN SHAW ISSUED A PRESS RELEASE IN SUPPORT OF OUR PROPOSED CHANGES AS WERE, UM, NOT AS AMENDED ON THE DAAS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
'CAUSE THAT WAS A VERY POINT, THAT WAS A HUGE POINT OF CONTENTION FOR THE ENTIRE ETHICS REVIEW BOARD, BECAUSE WE HAD SPENT OVER TWO YEARS OF WORK ON A LOT OF THESE THINGS.
AND FOR SOMETHING TO BE CHANGED ON THE DAIS, ON THE SPOT DISTANCE IT VERY WELL.
SO I JUST WANNA REMIND MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT IF WE'RE SENDING THIS TO THE E R B AND THEY'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATION, WE HAVE THE CHOICE TO EITHER ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION OR NOT ACCEPT IT AND MAKE AN AMENDMENT ON THE SPOT AS WAS DONE ON MAY 18TH OR ON JUNE 12TH, 2018 BY COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SECONDED THAT MOTION.
I'M SORRY, MY MEMORY'S NOT THAT GOOD.
THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN, AND FOR MAKING THE CASE FOR A FULLY INDEPENDENT AND AUTONOMOUS ETHICS REVIEW BOARD.
ONCE AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.
AND, UH, TROY, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
AND WHEN I WAS STILL ON THE, UH, AUDIT COMMITTEE, UH, WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THIS STUFF AND IT WAS BASED ON A COUPLE OF, UH, CONTRACTS THAT WE HAD ISSUES WITH, AND, YOU KNOW, DELIBERATIONS, THAT KIND OF THING.
UH, I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
UM, YEAH, IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE FLESHED OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHEN, UH, THE COMMUNICATIONS ASPECT CAN BE, UM, UM, CHANGED OR ENHANCED, IF YOU WILL.
UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER ALSO BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LIFTING THAT TOO FAR IN ADVANCE, UM, CAN CREATE ISSUES IN THEIR OWN.
UH, SO THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE REALLY CONSIDERED THOUGHTFULLY AND CAREFULLY BEFORE WE MAKE THOSE KIND OF CHANGES TO THE, TO THESE RULES.
BUT OVERALL, I'M, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE, UH, REALLY SUPPORT THAT EXTRA TIME ON THE SOLICITATION.
AS YOU KNOW, I HAMMERED Y'ALL EVERY MEETING.
LET'S GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO RESPOND TO THESE, UH, PARTICULAR COMPLICATED CONTRACTS, THE, YOU KNOW, AND GIVE THE CONTRACTORS, UH, THE RESPONDERS MORE TIME TO DELVE INTO IT, GET BETTER, UH, BETTER COSTINGS FROM SUBCONTRACTORS.
UH, THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BIG, YOU THINK OUR PROCESSES ALONG THE CONTRACTORS PROCESSES JUST AS LONG AND MORE COMPLICATED IN PUTTING PROPOSALS TOGETHER FOR THE CITY.
SO I WANNA, I WANT TO CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH TIME POSSIBLE, UH, BECAUSE IT ONLY MAKES A BETTER PROPOSAL THE MORE TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER AND LINE UP YOUR SUBCONTRACTORS AND YOUR COSTING AND ALL THAT.
SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL PUTTING THAT CHANGE IN THERE TO GIVE AT LEAST TWO MORE WEEKS ON THESE SOLICITATIONS.
UM, QUESTION ON SLIDE NUMBER TWO.
UH, YES, NUMBER TWO, SO THESE ARE THE, THIS IS THE DEFINITION.
IT SAYS HIGHLY COMPLEX OR TECHNICAL IN NATURE OR CONTRACT TERMS. UM, IN THERE, DO WE ALSO INCLUDE THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT? IT SAYS COMPLEX CONTRACT TERMS, BUT, UM, CAN WE ALSO INCLUDE, WHAT I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER IS THE LENGTH OF A
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CONTRACT AS WELL.IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR MULTI-YEAR OR SIX YEARS PLUS THREE ONE YEAR RENEWALS, OR 10 YEARS, AND THEN 10 YEAR RENEWALS, THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE INDIVIDUAL, UM, CONSIDERATION AND NOT CONSENT.
AND THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THAT'D BE SPECIFICALLY WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY, UM, LOOK AT THAT AND RECOMMEND THAT AS A HIGH PROFILE CONTRACT.
YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT FOR A HIGH PROFILE CONTACT TO THE CONTRACT, TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, AND THAT WOULD BE INDIVIDUAL JUST FOR AUDIT COMMITTEE? IT, IT COULD BE, I MEAN, AS WE GO THROUGH THE FORECAST, I MEAN, YOU WOULD SEE THE FULL FORECAST FROM THIS POINT FORWARD MM-HMM.
AND I THINK, UM, AND I KNOW PART OF THAT SLIDE, IT ALSO HAS AN ASTERISK SAYING THE LOW BID PROCUREMENTS ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE DEFINITION, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, CONVERSATIONS HERE ON THE DAIS ABOUT, UM, MAKING CHANGES ON THE DAIS TO EXPAND OR TO, UM, ADD PEOPLE ONTO CONTRACTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO COMMENT ON.
BUT, UM, TO YOUR POINT, UH, YES, I'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE TIME WHERE WE COULD TALK TO THOSE, UM, INDIVIDUALS AND NOT HAVE SUCH A QUICK TURNAROUND TIME.
I DO WANT TO AVOID DEBACLE THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A MORE TRANSPARENT PROCESS AND THAT WE HAVE THOROUGH TIME OF VETTING THESE, UM, THESE LARGE PACKAGES.
BUT JUST EVEN IF SOME THINGS HAPPEN, I KNOW EVEN ON THE DAAS, WHEN PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK ON A CONSENT ITEM HERE ON A SESSION AND THEY BRING UP AN ISSUE OR A CONCERN, YOU KNOW, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT THEY'RE, THEN IT BRINGS UP OTHER CONCERNS THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IN, IN, IN THE FUTURE WITH DIFFERENT, UM, UM, PROCUREMENT PROCESSES.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, I KNOW I ASKED T C I, UM, TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT OUR FEEDBACK OUR COUNCIL OFFICES ARE GETTING FOR CERTAIN CONTRACTORS THAT ARE DOING BIDDING.
UM, BECAUSE IT MAY NOT BE, IT MAY BE FINE FOR SOME OF INSPECTORS, BUT IT'S NOT FINE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GETTING, THAT ARE FEELING IMPACTED.
SO TO SEE HOW THAT CAN BE EMBEDDED INTO, UH, TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THEN, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE FOR THE SOLICITATIONS MOVING FORWARD.
SO, I'M SORRY, IF YOU CAN PLEASE EXPLAIN ON SLIDE NUMBER SIX.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THESE ARE GOING TO COME TO A B SESSION FOR BRIEFING? YEAH.
AS WE LOOK AT ALL THE HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATIONS OVER THE NEXT, NEXT SIX MONTHS, THESE THREE ARE THE ONES THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, FOR Y'ALL TO REVIEW IN A B SESSION.
AND THE OTHERS ARE IN AUDIT COMMITTEE THAT WILL STAY IN, INDIVIDUAL WILL WILL BE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. YEAH.
THE REMAINING, THE REMAINING HIGH PROFILE PROFILE ITEMS THAT ARE, THAT MEET THOSE CRITERIA THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT MM-HMM.
AND ON THE OTHER SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT, YOU HAVE, UM, THE CONSENT HIGH PROFILES.
TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UH, CONSENT ITEM UNDER D H S.
THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A, I BELIEVE IT'S A $500,000, UM, SOLICITATION.
THIS WOULD BE COMING BACK FOR Y'ALL FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, I BELIEVE ON OCTOBER 30TH, UM, FOR Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION IN A B SESSION TO FOCUS MORE ON THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS, BUT NOT THE PROCUREMENT.
SO IT IS COMING TO A B SESSION MORE FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT.
SO WHY WOULDN'T IT COME TO US FOR PROCUREMENT? EVEN IF WE TALK ABOUT IT, I THINK FROM A PROCUREMENT STANDPOINT, IT'S, IT'S A LOW DOLLAR VALUE.
IT'S 500,000, AND I BELIEVE IT'S FOR A, IT'S FOR A STUDY OR FOR A CONSULTANT.
SO WHEN WE COME TO YOU ON OCTOBER 30TH, WE WILL ASK YOU TO APPROVE PRIORITIES FOR FUNDING.
UM, AND THEN THAT THOSE FUNDING CONTRACTS WILL COME BACK TO YOU THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS, THROUGH A SESSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO WE FELT LIKE BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY HAVING A B SESSION PRESENTATION, YOU WERE APPROVING THE FUNDING PRIORITIES, IT WAS UNDER THE MILLION DOLLAR THRESHOLD THAT IT DID NOT QUALIFY.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA TALK ABOUT WITH THAT ONE IS WHEN WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE, THE OCTOBER 30TH MEETING, UM, I THINK, THINK I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE, UM, THE SELECTION COMMITTEE.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE IS.
ARE WE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THOSE THAT HAVE, UH, MAYBE BEEN VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR SOMETHING OF ELSE TO THAT EFFECT ARE PART OF THE, THE SELECTION OR AT LEAST THE REVIEW OF WHO WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO NOT JUST HAVE IT ON A CONSENT AGENDA, ERIC, IF YOU UNDERSTAND.
AND MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS INCORP, 'CAUSE DR.
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DO ON THAT OCTOBER 30TH OR 31ST B SESSION IS WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA WORK.AND IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ALSO LAY OUT, UH, THE INVOLVEMENT IN THE SOLICITATION, SOME OF THAT DETAIL IN THE PRESENTATION.
AND, UM, SO THESE OTHERS ARE IN PROGRESS FOR INDIVIDUAL, AND THANK YOU TO MY, UH, COLLEAGUE WHO IS, WHO IS ALSO MENTIONING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO ALSO MENTIONED THAT IF WE WANT TO PULL SOMETHING OFF OF A CONSENT ITEM OR, UM, REQUEST TO HAVE IT AT A B SESSION, THAT WE CAN HAVE JUST MORE, MORE DIALOGUE ABOUT IT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US, UM, TO HAVE.
UH, AND THEN I THINK ANYTHING WITH HOUSING, EVEN IF IT'S A LOW DOLLAR AMOUNT, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A HIGH PROFILE PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT UNDER INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IN, IN MY OPINION.
UM, SO I'D LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, THE OTHER CONSENT ITEMS THAT ARE IN PROGRESS, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE VERY, UM, VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL AND DILIGENT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE OTHER SESSION THINGS HAPPEN, AND WE END UP WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH ALL OF THESE OTHER ITEMS. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, THANKS FOR, FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
I'LL ECHO THE, UM, CONCERN ABOUT THE SHORT BLACKOUT PERIODS BEING UNCOMFORTABLY SHORT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERFECT RIGHT BLACKOUT PERIOD WOULD LOOK LIKE.
ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE ONE WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW IS, UH, AND I'M SURE THAT EVERY BLACKOUT PERIOD IS IMPERFECT.
UM, BUT I, ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE IMPERFECTION IN THIS ONE IS THAT IT, IT FEELS REALLY TIGHT.
UM, THE SECOND THING, UM, I'LL I'LL TELL YOU IS THAT, UM, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL ISN'T HERE TODAY.
SHE'S NOT FEELING VERY WELL, BUT SHE'S DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB AT TEXTING ME.
UM, AND SO I HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, UH, FOR YOU, BUT, UM, OUTTA FEAR FOR MY SAFETY, UH, I'M GONNA ASK YOU SOME OF HERS.
UM, SO SHE WRITES, I REQUEST THAT CHANGES BETWEEN ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED PROPOSALS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BE SUMMARIZED AND EXPLAINED WHEN THE RECOMMENDATION IS MADE.
UM, ALSO SHE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ALL HIGH PROFILE, UM, PRES SOLICITATION BRIEFINGS GO TO A FEW COUN, UH, A FULL COUNSEL, NOT JUST TO AUDIT.
UM, AND I THINK SHE JUST REALIZED THAT I'M READING OFF HER QUESTIONS, SO SHE STOPPED.
UH, SO, SO PLEASE TAKE THAT AND, UM, DO AS COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO.
UH, THE SECOND THING I, I DO WANT TO TELL YOU IS, AND ERIC, THIS IS REALLY FOR YOU.
UM, I, I KNOW THAT THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS YOU GUYS WORK ON IS GETTING THIS RIGHT, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY EYEBALLS ON THIS.
UM, AND PEOPLE LOOK AT IT FROM A PROCESS, PEOPLE LOOK AT IT FROM, I MEAN, EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION ABOUT THESE CONTRACTS BECAUSE THEY ARE BY NATURE HIGH PROFILE, BUT, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HIGH PROFILE, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT, BUT BECAUSE OF ALSO THE IMPORTANCE, UM, OF EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY'RE GONNA IMPACT.
I, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CRITIQUES, UH, OTHER THAN ENCOURAGEMENT.
AND THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FEELING THAT THIS WILL NEVER END.
UH, EVERY COUNCIL BEFORE US HAS PROBABLY HAD STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPERFECTIONS OF THIS PROCESS.
AND EVERY COUNCIL AFTER US, UH, WILL HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT THE IMPERFECTIONS IN THIS PROCESS.
UM, AND THAT'S BECAUSE, UH, I'VE NEVER SEEN A CITY OR ANY GOVERNMENT AGENCY OR FOR THAT MATTER, ANY PRIVATE AGENCY, UH, GET IT PERFECT.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS STRIVING FOR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY THAT YOU GUYS DO THIS.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS CONTINUING TO BE EVEN MORE AND MORE CAREFUL, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME DEGREE OF AGILITY, UM, AND FLEXIBILITY BUILT INTO THE PROCESS.
OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS WOULD BE ETERNAL AND WE WOULD HAVE MORE MEETINGS THAN THERE ARE DAYS IN THE WEEK.
UH, AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THAT HEAVY LIFTING IS ASKED OF YOU.
UM, AND I JUST APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING IT, AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T SAY THAT ENOUGH FROM THE DAAS.
AND THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, A SINCERE THANKS FOR DOING THE HARD STUFF.
COUNCIL MEMBER PALAIS, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.
I FORGOT TO DO MY, MY REQUEST.
UM, THERE'S TWO ITEMS ON THERE THAT ARE CURRENTLY HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATIONS, AND I WAS HOPING THAT YOU ALL WOULD HELP ME, UM, OR, OR CONSIDER MOVING THEM TO SELECT HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATION SO THAT WE COULD GET A FULL BRIEFING AND THAT IT'S ON THE CONTINENTAL HOTEL AND ON THE ORGANICS MATERIAL PROCESSING.
AND SO I'VE REQUESTED THAT YESTERDAY AT, I DIDN'T FORMALLY REQUEST IT AT, ADDED AN ACCOUNTABILITY.
I JUST GAVE IT TO TROY AND, UM, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT I BRING IT UP TO MY FULL COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.
BUT I THINK THOSE ARE TWO ITEMS
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THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN FRONT OF THE FULL PUBLIC.COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER GROM.
I JUST WANTED TO ADVOCATE ON THE SAME BEHALF FOR MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, TROY.
THANK YOU, UH, FOR NUMBER TWO.
UH, AND BEFORE WE TRANSITION, LET ME, LET ME JUST SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE INTEND ON HAVING THAT TYPE OF LIST HERE TWICE A YEAR AT B SESSION TO GIVE, UH, THE COUNCIL AS A GROUP, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP.
AND, AND WE DO THAT DELIBERATELY SO THAT, UM, TO COUNCILMAN PLYS POINT, UM, IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO, TO WORK AND IMPROVE UPON.
UM, WE CONTRACT FOR A LOT OF, PROVISION, A LOT OF SERVICES AND GOODS DURING THE YEAR.
AND SO BEING CONSISTENT AND, UH, BEING RELIABLE, AND AS FOLKS WHO ARE WANTING TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, THOSE STANDARDS ARE IMPORTANT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE, THE FEEDBACK ON THAT FIRST ITEM.
AND, AND ERIC AND I, I JUST, I I WILL CHIME IN.
UM, I THINK OUR STANDARD HAS TO BE TRANSPARENCY AND CONSISTENCY WITH, WITH THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
THERE'S TOO MANY BAD THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IN GOVERNMENTAL BODIES WHEN WE GET HERKY JERKY ABOUT THE WAY WE DO PROCUREMENT, AND IT OPENS THE DOOR FOR COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THOSE WHO REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO WANT CONTRACTS FROM THE PUBLIC SECTOR TO GO AWRY.
UM, AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE THAT TROY HAS TAKEN THAT CHARGE ON, UM, THAT TRANSPARENCY HAS TO BE, UH, PARAMOUNT.
WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BOARD.
SO, MAYOR, THE, UH, THE SECOND ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS A BRIEFING ON THE TICKETING SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR THE CONVENTION AND AND SPORTS FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.
SO THIS IS AN ITEM, AND PATRICIA WAS GONNA GO THROUGH THE TIMELINE.
THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS GONE THROUGH OUR, UH, STANDARD PROCESS, HAS GONE THROUGH BOTH PRES SOLICITATION AND POST SOLICITATION BRIEFINGS AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.
AND AS I WAS REVIEWING THE AGENDA, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO, A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT, UH, POTENTIALLY COULD BE HIGH PROFILE, BUT BEGAN UNDER A DIFFERENT, UH, STANDARD AND IS ON THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW.
SO YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL, YOU'LL NEVER SEE UNLESS IT'S A SERIOUS EMERGENCY, IS AN ITEM ON B SESSION WITH ACTION TOMORROW.
I DID WANT TO INCLUDE THE, TODAY, TODAY'S ITEM A BRIEFING, BECAUSE IN LIGHT OF THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE HAD, THE CONVERSATION YOU JUST HAD ABOUT HIGH PROFILE, UH, CONTRACTS TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.
UM, AND PATRICIA'S GONNA WALK THROUGH THE SOLICITATION.
THIS IS A REVENUE CONTRACT, UH, AND IS CENTERED ON CONVENIENCE AND, AND, UH, AND REVENUE FOR THE BUILDINGS.
AND, AND CERTAINLY, UH, EVENTS LIKE THE OTHER NIGHT, LIKE THE SOCCER GAME, ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE, UH, BUT ALSO FROM A, UH, A LOCAL PARTICIPATION STANDPOINT.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I'LL ADD IS THAT, UM, IT IS ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW, AND IT IS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THIS CONTRACT ENDS AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
AND SO, UM, THERE ARE, THERE IS A TIMELINESS ISSUE.
UM, I WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT, THAT, UH, EXPLANATION UPFRONT BECAUSE, UM, I'M ADDING, I'VE ASKED, I ASKED PATRICIA AND CARLOS TO ADD IT TO THIS AGENDA SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT IN A B SESSION AND NOT HAVE THE, HAVE TO RELY UPON ONLY IN A SESSION BRIEFING.
SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO, UH, TRY TO DO BETTER AT THIS AND, UH, GIVE YOU PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO, TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, PATRICIA.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M PATRICIA MUS, CANOR, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND SPORTS FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.
AS ERIC MENTIONED, I WILL BE PRESENTING A BRIEFING ON THE SOLICITATION PROCESS FOR THE AUTOMATED TICKETING SYSTEM AGREEMENT FOR THE CONVENTION AND SPORTS FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.
THE PURPOSE IS, UH, TO SELECT A QUALIFIED RESPONDENT WHO CAN PROVIDE AN AUTOMATED TICKETING SYSTEM FOR THE ALAMO DOME, THE LILA RE, AND THE CARVER COMMUNITY CULTURAL CENTER, INCLUDING THE JOE LONG THEATER AND THE LITTLE CARVER.
THE TERM OF THIS AGREEMENT IS A FIVE YEAR TERM WITH A FIVE YEAR RENEWAL OPTION.
WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, UM, FROM THE DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE, IT, WE HAD SEVERAL GOALS FOR THE SOLICITATION.
FIRST, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A SOPHISTICATED TICKETING SYSTEM THAT TAKES, THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF PRESENT AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGY.
WE ALSO WANTED TO PARTNER WITH A RESPONDENT THAT WOULD, UM, INVEST AND DEPLOY ON AN ONGOING BASIS, UM, TECHNOLOGICAL AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD MAINTAIN ON AN ONGOING BASIS A STATE-OF-THE-ART SYSTEM.
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SECOND, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WAS EASY AND CONVENIENT TO USE, NOT ONLY FOR THE CONSUMER, BUT FOR THE STAFF.AND THAT PROVIDED THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE IN A TIMELY, EFFECTIVE, AND EFFICIENT MANNER.
WE WERE ALSO LOOKING FOR A PROPOSAL THAT PROVIDES THE BEST VALUE TO THE CONSUMERS THROUGH REASONABLE AND FLEXIBLE CUSTOMER FEES.
ALSO, VERY IMPORTANT TO US WAS TO HAVE A SYSTEM THAT PROVIDED EXTENSIVE RE UH, MARKETING RESOURCES.
WHY? BECAUSE IN, BECAUSE EXTENSIVE MARKETING RESOURCES HELP US SELL MORE TICKETS AND INCREASE ATTENDANCE AT OUR EVENTS IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, EQUALLY IMPORTANT IS TO CONTRACT WITH A RESPONDENT WHO IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF ANTI-FRAUD MEASURES AND CAN OFFER MAXIMUM SECURITY OF ALL DATA.
IT WAS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO PARTNER WITH A RESPONDENT WHO CAN PROVIDE TECHNO TECHNICAL SUPPORT TO HELP US RESOLVE ANY ISSUES BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER AN EVENT.
AND LAST, WE WERE ALSO LOOKING FOR A PROPOSAL THAT PROVIDED THE BIGGEST RETURN TO THE CITY WITH A GOAL BEING THAT MORE REVENUE COULD HELP US, OFFSET OPERATIONS, CAN HELP US ENHANCE OUR FACILITIES AND HELP US PAY OFF THE DEBT THAT WE HAVE ON THE RECENT RENOVATIONS AT THE ALAMO DOME, SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS INCLUDED IN THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, WERE GETTING A ROBUST TICKETING SYSTEM THAT COULD SELL, THAT COULD PRINT, SCAN, AND DISTRIBUTE TICKETS.
AND AS I MENTIONED, AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THIS R F P WAS TO PROVIDE MAXIMUM REVENUE SHARE MODEL WITH THE CITY.
THE SYSTEM ALSO NEEDED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCESS DATA ANALYTICS, SUCH AS PROVIDE REAL-TIME SALES FIGURES, AND ALSO PROVIDE MARKETING TOOLS SUCH AS EMAIL BLAST, FULL-TIME LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES, AND ONSITE TECHNICAL SUPPORT.
DURING REGULAR AND EVENT BOX OFFICE HOURS WAS ALSO A REQUIREMENT, AND THE RESPONDENTS ALL WERE ALSO ASKED TO PROVIDE ALL EQUIPMENT AND TICKET STOCK AND PROVIDE TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES AND LICENSES.
THE SYSTEM ALSO NEEDED TO BE CERTIFIED TO PROCESS CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS THROUGH THE CITY'S MERCHANT BANKING SYSTEM PROVIDERS PLATFORM, AND BE COMPLIANT WITH THE PAYMENT CARD INDUSTRY AND SECURITY CARD, UH, SECURE AND DATA SECURITY STANDARDS.
AN ANNUAL MARKETING AND TECHNOLOGY CONTRIBUTION OF A MINIMUM OF 25,000 WAS ALSO A REQUIREMENT TO HELP US ADVERTISE AND PROMOTE EVENTS, AND ALSO TO HELP US PURCHASE ASSOCIATED TECHNOLOGY.
AND THEN AS AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION, WE ALSO ASKED RESPONDENTS TO PROPOSE A CONTRIBUTION TO AN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND THAT WOULD HELP US IN INVEST IN A, IN A WIDE RANGE OF ENTERTAINMENT, ENTERTAINMENT INITIATIVES THROUGHOUT OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY.
SO AS FAR AS THE SOLICITATION TIMELINE, WE FOLLOWED THE PROCESS NOT SHOWN ON, UH, THAT SLIDE.
IT BEGAN IN DECEMBER WITH THE PRES SOLICITATION, UH, BRIEFING.
THEN WE ISSUED PROPOSALS IN JANUARY.
PROPOSALS WERE DUE IN FEBRUARY, AND THEN THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE EVALUATED AND INTERVIEWED ALL RESPONDENTS.
IN LATE APRIL, A POST ELICITATION BRIEFING WAS PRESENTED TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE LATE LAST MONTH ON AUGUST 30TH.
AND THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO MOVE THIS, UH, FORWARD FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
TOMORROW, THIS ITEM WILL BE PRESENTED, LIKE I SAID, ON TOMORROW'S COUNCIL AGENDA.
THE NEW CONTRACT IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN ON OCTOBER 1ST, PENDING COUNCIL APPROVAL.
AS ERIC MENTIONED THIS, THE CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRES ON SEPTEMBER 30TH.
THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, CARLOS RE, MYSELF, I T S D DIRECTOR, CORRECT.
HOPKINS ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR, MELANIE KEATON, BOX OFFICE MANAGER AT THE AT AND T CENTER, ADAM MCKENZIE, UH, VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS FOR VALERO ALAMO BOWL, JULIE BAKER, AND ASSISTANT VICE PRESIDENT OF RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT FOR UT U T S A ATHLETICS DARREN DELIA.
THE EVALUATION, UH, CRITERIA CONSISTED OF 35 POINTS FOR EXPERIENCE, QUALIFICATIONS AND BACKGROUND.
30 POINTS PER PROPOSED PLAN, 20 POINTS PER PRICE, 10 POINTS PER LOCAL PREFERENCE PROGRAM, AND FIVE POINTS FOR VETERAN-OWNED SMALL BUSINESS PREFERENCE PROGRAM.
THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE EVALUATED THE EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND, AND QUALIFICATIONS, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR A TOTAL OF 65 POINTS.
AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT EVALUATED THE PRICE, THE LOCAL PREFERENCE, AND THE SMALL, AND THE VETERAN OWNED SMALL BUSINESS.
FOR THE REMAINING 35 POINTS, THE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED PROPOSALS FROM THREE RESPONDENTS, INCLUDING TICKETMASTER, THE TOBIN CENTER, AND SQUAD UP
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WITH REGARDS TO EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS.TICKETMASTER RECEIVED THE HIGHEST POINTS FOLLOWED BY THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAD UP.
IN EVALUATING THE PROPOSALS, THE COMMITTEE SAW A VAST DIFFERENCE IN THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS SERVED IN THE NUMBER OF ANNUAL TICKETS SOLD AND ASSOCIATED REVENUE, AS WELL AS THE WEBSITE TRAFFIC BETWEEN TICKETMASTER AND THE OTHER RESPONDENTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, TICKETMASTER HAS 43 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE COMPARED TO SIX YEARS FOR THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAT UP.
TICKETMASTER SELLS 480 MILLION TICKETS ANNUALLY COMPARED TO 250,000 BY THE TOBIN CENTER.
TICKETMASTER ALSO HAS 1.4 BILLION, BILLION I STRESS ANNUALLY, UH, VISITORS ANNUALLY TO THEIR WEBSITE.
AND THE DOBIN CENTER HAS 1.2 MILLION ANNUAL VISITORS.
THE EXTENSIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT TICKETMASTER IS AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN TICKETING SET TICKETMASTER.
APART FROM THE OTHER RESPONDENTS UNDER THE PROPOSED PLAN, TICKETMASTER ALSO RECEIVED THE HIGHEST POINTS, FOLLOWED BY THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAT UP.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT SET TICKETMASTER APART FROM THE OTHER RESPONDENTS INCLUDED.
UM, THEY OFFERED THEIR OWN TICKETING SYSTEM THAT THEY MAINTAINED THEIRSELVES SQUAT UP ALSO, UH, PROPOSED THEIR OWN TICKETING SYSTEM.
THE TOBIN, UH, CENTER PROPOSED A TICKETING SYSTEM THAT IS SUPPORTED BY A THIRD PARTY CALLED AUDIENCE VIEW.
AUDIENCE VIEW IS A WHITE LABEL COMPANY.
IN THIS CASE, THEY PRODUCE A TICKETING SYSTEM THAT THEY SELL TO OTHERS TO REBRAND AS THEIR AS THEIR OWN.
THIS TYPE OF PER PARTNERSHIP RESULTS IN A TIERED CUSTOMER SUPPORT, WHICH CAN LEAD TO DELAYS IN SERVICE AND HINDER OUR OPERATIONS.
TI TICKETMASTER HAS NOT ONLY A HUGE LOCAL, BUT A GLOBAL MARKETING REACH.
FOR EXAMPLE, DURING OUR, UH, MOST RECENT INTERNATIONAL SOCCER EVENT AT THE ALAMO DOME LAST WEEK, OVER 56% OF THE TICKETS, UM, THAT WERE SOLD ONLINE WERE SOLD OUTSIDE OF THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET LOCALLY.
TICKETMASTER HAS FIVE TIMES MORE THE SUB MORE SUBSCRIBERS THAN THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAT UP.
THIS EXPOSURE RESULTS IN AN INCREASED OPPORTUNITY FOR US FOR TICKET SALES.
ADDITIONALLY, TICKETMASTER HAS BUSINESS RELATIONSHIPS WITH FELD, WITH THE MESSINA GROUP, WITH LIVE NATION, WITH SOCCER, UNITED MARKETING, WHICH BROUGHT US THIS LAST SOCCER EVENT.
UM, AND, UH, WHICH HAS BASICALLY FOR THESE EVENTS, OVER 50% OF OUR ANNUAL ATTENDEES COME FROM THESE EVENTS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE ALSO THAT OUR TWO TENANTS, U T S A AND VALERO ALAMO ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN TICKETING AGREEMENTS WITH TICKETMASTER TO SELL THEIR SEASON TICKETS.
TICKETMASTER ALSO OFFERED THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF THE LOCAL, REGIONAL, AND NATIONAL ACCOUNT REPRESENTATIVES WITH 24 7 TECHNICAL SUPPORT.
AND TICKETMASTER WAS THE ONLY RESPONDENT THAT WAS CERTIFIED TO PROCESS CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS THROUGH THE CITY'S MERCHANT BANKING SERVICE PROVIDER.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION WAS THAT WE ASKED RESPONDENTS TO PROPOSE A CONTRIBUTION TO AN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.
TICKETMASTER PROPOSED $50,000 PER YEAR TO BE USED AS CITYWIDE, AND THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED $500,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TO THIS FUND TO BE USED AT THE TOBIN CENTER.
A COMPARISON OF THE ECONOMIC TERMS OF THE PROPOSALS OR AS FOLLOWS, UNDER, UNDER THE TICKETMASTER AGREEMENT, THE CITY WILL RECEIVE $2 MILLION PER YEAR COMPARED TO 1.5 MILLION UNDER THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSAL AND 173,000 THROUGH THE SQUAD UP PROPOSAL.
TICKETMASTER WAS THE ONLY RESPONDENT THAT OFFERED ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES, SUCH AS A ONE-TIME 250,000 SIGN-ON BONUS.
TICKETMASTER ALSO PROPOSED 50,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE MARKETING AND TECHNOLOGY FUND.
BOTH THE TOBIN CENTER AND SQUAT UP PROPOSED A MINIMUM THE MINIMUM CONTRIBUTION OF 25,000.
AND THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO ADVERTISE AND PROMOTE THEIR TICKETING SYSTEM AS A SOURCE OF TICKETS TO ATTRACTIONS AT THE EVENTS IN RELATION TO FEES TO THE CONSUMERS.
AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US.
UNDER THE TICKET TICKETMASTER'S AGREEMENTS, FEES WILL NOT INCREASE MORE THAN 20 CENTS EVERY OTHER YEAR.
UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL, UM, THEIR FEES WILL INCREASE 50 CENTS EVERY OTHER YEAR.
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SQUAD UP OFFERED SUPPLIES AT NO CHARGE AND PROPOSED ZERO STARTUP COSTS.THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED 269,000 IN, IN, IN INITIAL EQUIPMENT PURCHASES TO BE NETTED OUT OF THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND, AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR DATA MIGRATION, UM, UH, TO TRANSFER TO AUDIENCE VIEW PLATFORM AT THE CITY'S EXPENSE.
THE TOBIN CENTER ALSO PROPOSED A 1 CENT PER TICKET AND A 7 CENT PER ENVELOPE, UM, COST TO THE CITY.
THESE FEES EQUATE TO ABOUT $16,000 COSTS TO THE CITY.
TICKETMASTER ALSO PROPOSED OTHER ONE-TIME, UM, INCENTIVES, FOR EXAMPLE, A 10,000 ONETIME, UH, CONTRIBUTION IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THE BOX OFFICE AT THE LILA C**K ROLE THEATER, UH, TO HELP US, UH, WITH THE START OF THE BROADWAY SERIES THAT WILL START THERE IN 2023.
AND THEY ALSO PROPOSED A 30,001 TIME ALLOWANCE TO HELP US ESTABLISH REMOTE BOX OFFICE LOCATIONS AT THE ALAMO DOM WHENEVER WE HAVE AN EXTENDED PERIMETER FOR SOME BIG EVENTS.
SO, AGAIN, UM, FOR AN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, UH, FUND, TICKETMASTER PROPOSED $50,000 PER YEAR TO BE USED CITYWIDE.
UM, THE TOBIN CENTER, AGAIN PROPOSED 500,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION, UM, NET OF THE STARTUP, UH, EQUIPMENT COSTS TO BE USED AT THE TOBIN CENTER.
IN THE OVERALL SCORING, TICKETMASTER RECEIVED 80 POINTS COMPARED TO 60 POINTS FOR THE TOBIN CENTER.
AND, UM, 36 POINTS FOR SQUAT UP DUE DILIGENCE ON ALL THREE RESPONDENTS WAS COMPLETED BY THE CITY AUDITOR, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
AND NO MAJOR FINDINGS OR EXCEPTIONS WERE FOUND.
IT IS WORTH TO NOTE THAT TICKETMASTER SCORED THE HIGHEST WHEN IT CAME TO THE CATEGORIES OF EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND AND QUALIFICATIONS, PROPOSED PLAN AND PRICING.
TICKETMASTER ALSO HAS, UM, SO AT THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION, I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT OUR GOAL FOR THIS CONTRACT WAS TO SELL TICKETS AND TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE FOR OUR FACILITIES WHILE STILL PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL TICKETING EXPERIENCES FOR END USERS AND OUR CUSTOMERS.
TICKETMASTER HAS THE LARGEST MARKETING REACH OUT OF ANY OTHER ENTITY.
THIS REACH TRANSLATES TO TICKET SALES, AND ULTIMATELY IT ALSO RESULTS IN MORE REVENUE TO OUR DEPARTMENT.
SO, UM, THIS LAST INTERNATIONAL SOCCER EVENT THAT WE HAD AT THE ALAMO DOME LAST WEEK, I TOLD YOU THAT 56% OF THE TICKETS THAT WERE SOLD ONLINE WERE SOLD OUTSIDE OF THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET.
OVER 775 WERE SOLD INTERNATIONALLY.
OVER 600 WERE SOLD OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND OVER 11,000 WERE SOLD OUT OF SAN ANTONIO.
ALL OF THESE OUT OF MARKET TICKET SALES TRANSLATE TO OVERNIGHT STAYS, AND THEY BOOST OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE FOR, UM, THE METALLICA CONCERT THAT WAS HELD AT THE ALAMO DOME IN JUNE OF 2017.
AGAIN, OVER 56,000 PEOPLE, UH, THERE FOR THAT CONCERT.
AND AGAIN, 55% OF THE ONLINE TICKETS THAT WERE PURCHASED WERE PURCHASED OUTSIDE OF THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET.
OVER 80 WERE PURCHASED INTERNATIONALLY, AND CLOSE TO 10,000 WERE PURCHASED OUTSIDE OF THE STATE.
AGAIN, PEOPLE COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY TO STAY HERE AND VISIT US AS A DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE DOING, WE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED AND WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE NUMBER AND THE QUALITY OF EVENTS AT OUR FACILITIES.
WE ARE PROPOSING MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR FACILITIES OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
AND IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE DRIVE AS MUCH REVENUE AS WE CAN SO THAT WE CAN, UM, HELP INVEST IN OUR FACILITIES AND, UH, MAINTAIN OUR RELEVANCE AND COM OR COMPETITIVE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME.
OUR OVERALL SUCCESS AS A PREMIER VENUE OF SPORTING AND ENTERTAINMENT IS ALSO PREDICATED ON THE ABILITY OF OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS TO PERFORM.
AND TICKETMASTER HAS DONE THAT FOR US FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
NOT HAVING THE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY WHEN IT COMES TO TICKETING SALES AND SERVICE CAN PUT THE ALAMO DOME AND OUR OTHER FACILITIES AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE.
IN CONCLUSION, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE AUTOMATED TICKETING SYSTEM, AS HAS BEEN SAID, IT'S ON TOMORROW'S COUNCIL AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTION QUESTIONS.
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YOU FOR YOUR TIME.THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PATRICIA, FOR THE, UM, PRESENTATION.
UM, JUST SO I'M UNDERSTANDING, UH, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE.
UM, ON SLIDE NINE, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, UH, YOU HAVE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND AND TICKETMASTER'S PROPOSING A $50,000 PER YEAR CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY THAT'S OVER AND ABOVE THE REVENUE TO THE CITY, GUARANTEED IN THE CONTRACT, YES.
IT'S ABOVE THE 2 MILLION PER YEAR.
BUT THAT'S, BUT THAT'S OVER AND ABOVE THE 2 MILLION YES.
OR IS THAT INCLUSIVE IN THE 2 MILLION ABOVE.
IS THE SAME TRUE FOR THE $500,000 CONTRIBUTION THAT TOBIN CENTER IS PROPOSING TO THE CITY, THAT IT'S OVER AND ABOVE THEIR ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR GUARANTEE IN THE CONTRACT? Y YES.
UM, THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSED IN THEIR PROPOSAL, IT WAS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS TO THE CITY, BUT WE TOOK BASICALLY THEIR REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND EXTRAPOLATED THAT BASED ON HISTORICAL FIGURES, AND WE CAME UP WITH A MILLION AND A HALF.
SO THE, THE MILLION AND A HALF WAS IN ADDITION.
THE 500,000 WAS IN ADDITION TO THE ONE AND A HALF MILLION, BUT AGAIN, IT WAS PROPOSED TO STAY AT THE TOBIN CENTER.
UM, ALRIGHT, I THINK I GOT IT.
UH, NOW ARE THESE GUARANTEES IN THE CONTRACT, THE TOP LINE REVENUE TO THE CITY? THEY ARE NOT GUARANTEES WITH ANY THE PROPOSALS? NO.
WITH ANY OF THE PROPOSALS, IT WAS BASED ON HISTORICAL FIGURES.
SO BASED ON THE HISTORICAL FIGURES, YOU ARE PROJECTING, UM, UH, A A FAIRLY A LEVEL, A LEVEL, UH, REVENUE TO THE CITY.
UH, IF, I MEAN, IF YOU ADD THE 500,000 TO THE ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE TO THE CITY MM-HMM.
THAT'S, UH, YOU'RE PROJECTING FOR TICKETMASTER'S HISTORICAL SALES, IS THAT IF YOU, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? IF YOU COUNT IN THE 500,000 FOR THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT CENTER THAT WAS PROPOSED TO STAY AT THE TOBIN, IT'S ABOUT EQUITABLE.
THE FIRST YEAR UNDER THE TICKET MASTER PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 2.39 MILLION AND UNDER, UH, THE TOBIN PER, UH, PROPOSAL, IF YOU COUNT ALSO THAT 500,000 FOR THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 2,025,000.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL.
UM, THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE TO THE CITY AS PROPOSED BY TOMAN IS THE 1.5 MILLION NUMBER BASED ON WHAT THE SHARE REVENUE SHARE THAT THEY PROJECTED TO, OR THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PROVIDE TO US, MULTIPLIED BY OUR HISTORIC NUMBERS, THE 500,000 WOULD NOT COME TO THE CITY.
THE TOBIN CENTER FOR THE, FOR THE ARTS GROUPS THERE, THE 2 MILLION IN THAT FIRST COLUMN, THE 2 MILLION FROM TICKETMASTER IS ACTUALLY REVENUE TO THE CITY THAT CAN BE UTILIZED TO UPDATE OUR BUILDINGS, TO DO MAINTENANCE AND TO, AND FOR OPERATIONAL PURPOSES.
BUT I'M VIEWING TOBIN AS A CITY ASSET.
SO 500,000 OF THE TOBIN ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE REVENUE TO A CITY OWNED ASSET.
UH, IT IS NOT A CITY OWNED ASSET, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
WELL, TO A, A, A PUBLIC ASSET THAT WE, UM, WE MANAGE 500,000 WOULD ACTUALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE WE MANAGE IT EITHER, MAYOR, BUT, BUT 500,000 WOULD BE USED BY A TOKEN CENTER.
AND, AND THEN, AND THEN THE MONEY THAT THE, THE TICKET MASTER FUNDING WOULD BE UTILIZED BY THE CITY.
NOW, IF WE GO OVER TO, UM, PROCESS WISE, THIS WENT THROUGH, UM, AUDIT COMMITTEE? YES.
IT WAS, IT WENT, UH, THROUGH PRES SOLICITATION, UH, BRIEFING AND POSTS.
UH, BUT THE, THE, UH, RESPONDENTS WERE NOT DISCLOSED AT THAT POINT? THEY WERE NOT, THAT'S CORRECT.
IT WAS THE, IT WAS THE OLD PROCESS.
SO THE RESPONDENTS WERE NOT DISCLOSED.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE, THE AUDIT COMMITTEE REVIEWED PER AND POST AND THEN RECOMMENDED YOU GO TO THE COUNCIL.
UM, SO THANK YOU PATRICIA, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
AND, AND YESTERDAY WE GOT THE BRIEFING.
UM, SO, UM, I, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TELL A QUICK LITTLE STORY BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE, THE, THE ABILITY TO KNOW WHO WAS PICKED, THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY IT'S SET UP.
AND WE'RE KEEPING IT THAT WAY IN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS ABOUT SORT OF COMPRESSING THE TIME THAT FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT.
AND AS THE MAYOR WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING TO THE TOBIN CENTER, LET'S BE CLEAR WHAT'S GOING, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MONEY THAT'S GOING TO THE RESIDENT COMPANIES AT THE TOBIN
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CENTER.SO IT'S NOT, IT'S, WELL, LET ME BACK UP JANUARY 2ND, 2018, OR CELEBRATING OUR TRICENTENNIAL.
AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THAT WAS THE LAST CONCERT OF THE SYMPHONY.
THAT WAS THE LAST CONCERT ON OUR TRICENT TENAL YEAR.
AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S CRAZY.
WE'RE GONNA LOSE OUR SYMPHONY ON OUR TRICENT TENAL YEAR.
AND SO I REMEMBER SPENDING THAT SATURDAY MORNING WITH LORI HOUSTON CRUNCHING NUMBERS SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
WE STILL HAD ABOUT 380 SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT COULD CARRY THEM TO A CERTAIN POINT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY OF THAT IS THAT ESSENTIALLY THEY, THEY WERE ABLE TO FINISH OUT THE YEAR IN THE BLACK.
WITHIN THAT, WE ALSO LEARNED, HEY, WE GOTTA THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS.
RIGHT? AND THE BE AND THE BETTER WAY IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, HOW ARE WE THINKING ABOUT FUNDING OUR ARTS, UH, COMMUNITIES, UH, MORE ROBUSTLY? WHERE, WHERE CAN WE DO THIS? NOW WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HOMELESS, AND WE SHOULD HAVE YOU HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ARTS.
NOW, I THINK, PATRICIA CARLOS, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF, OF, OF MAKING THE CASE FOR, YOU KNOW, WHY THIS IS, UM, THE PICK FOR YOUR FACILITIES.
BUT I THINK OUR JOBS HERE IS TO BE THINKING ABOUT A BIGGER PICTURE, A MORE COMPLETE ONE.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS THE VALUES OF OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THROUGHOUT THAT YEAR, A AN IDEA CAME UP.
AN IDEA CAME UP WHERE, HEY, GUESS WHAT? YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHO COULD ACTUALLY HANDLE SOME OF THESE SERVICES? THE TOBIN CENTER AND THE TOBY SYSTEM.
AND SO WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS ON OUR TRISTAN SENIOR YEAR THINKING, YOU KNOW WHAT? WOW, THIS COULD BE A BIG DEAL.
AND WHEN WE, WHEN WE WERE SAYING IT'S, OH, IT'S NOT GOING TO THE CITY, IT'S GOING TO THE TOBIN CENTER.
NO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE HELPING THE SYMPHONY, WE'RE HELPING THE CITY.
IF WE'RE HELPING THE OPERA, WE'RE HELPING THE CITY.
AND SO THIS IS SOME SERIOUS DOLLARS.
AND SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT COMPRESSION, I HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
I HAD THAT MEETING YESTERDAY WITH PATRICIA.
I ALWAYS HAD A MEETING WITH MIKE FRESHER, UH, ABOUT WHAT THIS IS ALL WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WON'T GET INTO THE NUMBERS BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE NEED IS THE TIME.
I WANT EVERYBODY, MY COLLEAGUES, TO HAVE THAT MEETING BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME DISCREPANCIES HERE AND THERE'S SOME TECHNICALITIES I THINK WE CAN WORK AROUND.
NOW, FIRST OF ALL, THE FIRST TECHNICALITY, I THINK WOULD SURPRISE EVERYBODY.
THEY DID NOT GET AWARDED LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS.
WHY OVER THE FACT THAT THEY'RE A NON-PROFIT VERSUS A PROFIT, UH, STATUS.
NOW, WE WOULD AGREE THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE INTENTION OF, OF WHY WE WOULD DO LOCAL PREFERENCE, BUT GUESS WHAT, THAT'S 10 POINTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE, WE'RE NOW BEING ALSO TOLD THAT, HEY, MAN, THIS CONTRACT'S UP AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
WELL, THIS, AGAIN, THEY WERE, THESE, THESE RESPONSES WERE DUE AT FEB, FEBRUARY 15TH, INTERVIEWS APRIL IN END OF APRIL.
AND, UH, WELL, HERE'S THE TIMELINE.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, NOW HERE WE ARE WHERE THE CONTRACT BEGINS, RIGHT? ON OCTOBER, AND WE'RE SORT OF COMPRESSED IN THIS.
UM, AND OF COURSE, IN PART OF THAT, WE NEVER GOT TO TELL THAT STORY THAT I'M TELLING NOW, WHICH IS, HOW ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO, TO HELP, UH, THE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR CITY IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ALL THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO FUND ARTS ORGANIZATIONS? SOME OF THE BIGGEST ONES ARE AT THE TOBIN CENTER, AND HELPING THEM LIKE THIS HELPS DEBBIE ROCK SITTER AT THE DEPARTMENT OF ARTS AND CULTURE FUND, ALL OUR ARTS DEPARTMENT, ALL ARTS, ARTS COMMUNITIES.
AND SO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO THE CITY.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISONS THAT I GOT TO SEE, I MEAN, THERE'S JUST SOME QUESTION MARKS, AND AGAIN, MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I KNOW WHAT I'M NOT WRONG ABOUT.
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NOT WRONG ABOUT BEING COMMITTED TO, TO SUPPORTING THE ARTS, FINDING LAYERS OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN HELP US, YOU KNOW, MORE ROBUSTLY TAKE CARE OF SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN DIFFICULT YEAR AFTER YEAR.AND DO WE REALLY, ARE WE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS OR NOT? AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I KNOW IS THAT WE GOT PAST OUR TRICENTENNIAL YEAR, AND NOW, IS IT OKAY TO LOSE A SYMPHONY? NO.
AND, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT HERE'S SOME INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITIES TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
WE'RE DOING THAT, LIKE I SAID, WITH ALL THESE OTHER, UH, STRATEGIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO HAVE TIME TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
I, I, I WANT MY COLLEAGUES TO, TO BE ABLE TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS AND, AND THINK ABOUT THIS, AND NOT, NOT JUST GO FROM THIS B SESSION 18 HOURS LATER AND THEN HAVE TO VOTE TOMORROW, BECAUSE WE SOMEHOW JUST GOTTA, GOTTA GET IT DONE.
I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CAN WE NOT, CAN WE NOT GET AN EXTENSION, UH, FROM OCTOBER 1ST? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY, THE ONLY QUESTION I MAY, UM, COUNCILMAN VINO.
UM, JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT AGAIN, UM, GOING BACK TO THE GOALS OF THIS SOLICITATION, IT WAS TO HELP US SELL MORE TICKETS TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE FOR OUR
RIGHT? BUT THIS, I KNOW, I, AND I, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE LOOK, I, YES, I, THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT.
I, I AGREE WITH THAT, AND I TALKED WITH CARLOS ABOUT THIS, BUT THIS IS MY POINT.
I SPOKE WITH LORI HOUSTON ABOUT THIS.
I SPOKE WITH DEBBIE ROCK SITTER ABOUT THIS.
I KNOW I EVEN BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL TIMES IN THE, THE ARTS AND CULTURE AND HERITAGE COMMITTEE THAT WE ONCE HAD.
AND, AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE R F P.
BUT I'M BRINGING IT UP NOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE HERE.
I MEAN, I'M GIVING YOU THE HISTORY.
COUNCILMAN, YOU'RE CLEARLY NOT.
IT'S A, IT IS A COUNCIL PREROGATIVE.
UH, CERTAINLY COUNCIL COULD MAKE A MOTION TOMORROW TO, TO EXTEND IT.
IF THE COUNCIL CHOSE TO DO THAT.
THERE ARE NO AVAILABLE, UH, EXTENSIONS LEFT ON THAT CONTRACT, BUT THE COUNCIL COULD TAKE ACTION TOMORROW.
THERE ARE NO AVAILABLE EXTENSIONS.
WELL, I MEAN, AGAIN, I, I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE, WE GOT HERE LIKE THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY THAT, THAT REALLY ARE RELYING ON US TO BE THINKING ABOUT THEM ON EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, AND FINDING WAYS TO, TO HELP THEM IN DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FUNDING MECHANISM, PROVIDE REVENUES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS KIND OF CREATES A RIPPLE EFFECT THAT CAN, THAT CAN HELP US.
SO I GUESS I WOULD JUST CHALLENGE THAT.
I I WOULD, I, I WOULD DOUBLE CHECK THAT WE COULDN'T GET A, AN EXTENSION SOMEHOW TO JUST, LET'S, I'M ASKING FOR THIS TO SIMPLY NOT GO IN TOMORROW'S, UH, UH, A SESSION VOTE, BUT TO GO TO THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA FOR A VOTE SO THAT MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES CAN HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THIS MORE ROBUSTLY.
SO WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK WHAT YOU JUST SAID, CARLOS, COUNCILMAN ANDY WANTS TO CLARIFY.
SO I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, COUNCILMAN, WHAT I SAID WAS ON THE CONTRACT, THERE ARE NO AVAILABLE EXTENSIONS YOU COULD MAKE.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD MAKE A MOTION TOMORROW AND EXTEND THE CONTRACT ON IT SO WE CAN EXTEND THE ABSOLUTELY.
THE COUNCIL HAS THE POWER TO DO THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S MUCH DIFFERENT.
IT, IT, IT WILL REQUIRE THOUGH, COUNSEL, IF I MAY THE RIGHT, IT WILL, IT WILL REQUIRE THE AGREEMENT OF TICKETMASTER THOUGH.
WE CAN'T UNILATERALLY EXTEND, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
AND WHEREAS THE COUNCIL CAN ASK TO HAVE A MOTION, I, I DON'T SEE WHY THEY WOULDN'T, BUT I JUST DO NEED TO EMPHASIZE THEY WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO IT.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAYING THAT UNDER THE AGREEMENT THERE'S NO MORE AVAILABLE EXTENSIONS, BUT CERTAINLY YOU COULD DO THAT.
WELL, I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN START MAKING SOME PHONE CALLS QUICKLY.
THE, THE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, COUNCILMAN, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY, YOU RAISED A POINT ABOUT THE, UH, UH, NONPROFITS NOT BEING AVAILABLE FOR, UH, THE LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS.
UH, THAT'S BY ORDINANCE, BY ORDINANCE ADOPTED BY THE STATE.
YEAH, THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME.
BUT THAT'S, BUT WE MADE THAT ORDINANCE, RIGHT? AND, AND I'M SAYING IT'S SOMETIMES WE, I MEAN, THAT'S AGAIN, ANOTHER KEY POINT OF WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SOMETIMES REALIZE THAT THERE'S SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT GOES WITH THAT.
SO I, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AND BE ADDRESSING IN THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE INTENDED THAT LOCAL PREFERENCE TO WORK AND WHY.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I I, I WON'T, I WON'T NECESSARILY GET INTO SOME OF THE, THE DETAILS OR, OR, OR THE THINGS THAT I, THAT I HEARD THAT I THINK JUST REALLY
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PERKS MY, UH, MY EARS UP.AND, UH, I JUST, I JUST SIMPLY WANT TO ASK AS PART OF OUR PROCESS, AND PART OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY CONSISTENTLY ASKING AS I, AS WAS PRESENTED IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, WHICH IS WE SHOULDN'T BE GOING FROM A BRIEFING TO A, TO A VOTE IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS.
AND, UH, ESPECIALLY ON THINGS LIKE THIS, THAT, THAT PRESENT OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP, UH, ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, UH, IN SO MANY WAYS, THIS, THIS WILL CREATE A, A RIPPLE EFFECT THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY OR MAY NOT, UH, REALLY DEPEND ON HOW WE VOTE UP HERE.
AND I JUST, I THINK THAT IF WE TOOK AT LEAST A WEEK SO THAT MY COLLEAGUES SHOULD, IF, UM, THEY CHOOSE TO, TO DO, UH, A BRIEFING OR NOT, CAN CAN AT LEAST GET MORE INFORMATION, GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE DID THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE, WHAT THIS MEANS TO THE CITY, AND THE KIND OF IMPACT IT WILL REALLY HAVE TO THE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, UH, ALL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR CITY.
SO I'LL, I WILL BE MAKING THAT MOTION TOMORROW.
ERIC, YOU WANNA CLARIFY? I, I JUST WANTED TO, TO, UH, REITERATE THAT I'M THE ONE THAT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TODAY SO THAT YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY.
THE, THE, THE COUNCIL AS A GROUP HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
WE ARE TRANSITIONING SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE BACK TO BACK TYPE OF ISSUES.
UM, AND I, I KNEW THAT COMING IN, IT CERTAINLY ISN'T THE FAULT OF THE, THE STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN SHEPHERDING THIS, BUT I JUST THOUGHT THAT GIVEN THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU WERE GONNA HAVE ON HIGH PROFILE CONTRACTS, AND GIVEN THE, THE HIGH PROFILE OF THIS, IT MADE SENSE TO GIVE THE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION YOU'RE HAVING NOW AT B SESSION, RATHER THAN ONLY HAVING IT AT A SESSION.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT, THAT WAS MY DECISION.
AND I, I THINK IT GIVES YOU A CHANCE IN THIS INFORMAL SESSION TO HAVE THAT, UH, THAT CONVERSATION.
SO I, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW THAT THAT WAS, THAT WAS ME.
IT WASN'T A STATE FAULT, ERIC.
I, I CERTAINLY DON'T, I'M NOT, I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY.
I'M JUST SIMPLY ASKING FOR A PROCESS ALLOWS A, A BROADER PERSPECTIVE AND BROADER STORY TO BE TOLD THAT, THAT I SEE MISSING HERE.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T BLAME PATRICIA, I DON'T BLAME CARLO.
THERE'S, I MEAN, THERE'S REALLY, AT THIS POINT, THIS IS JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND SO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU ALLOW FOR, FOR LESS COMPRESSION IN, IN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK, THEN YOU ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO, TO, UH, TO EXPRESS, HEY, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THE INTENTION WAS.
THIS IS WHAT WE, WERE REALLY HOPING OUTTA THIS.
AND, AND SO I, I MEAN THIS, YOU, YOU, YOU COULD, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY WE'RE, WE'RE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS, UH, BRIEFING THAT IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T ALLOW THAT, THIS IS WHAT YOU LOSE.
AND, AND I'LL JUST RESTATE WHAT YOU SAID, ERIC, UNDER THE PREVIOUS PROCESS, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE AT ALL.
THIS WOULD BE ON THE, A SESSION.
SO WE WERE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT AS COUNCIL.
IT IS 24 HOURS LATER THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE OF THE COUNCIL, UH, ACTION THAT'S NEEDED ON THE CONTRACT WHATSOEVER.
UH, BUT THIS IS, GET USED TO IT FOLKS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS A LOT MORE OFTEN BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS WE JUST HEARD ABOUT FROM TROY, UH, JUST NOW.
BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, ERIC, WITH REGARD TO THE REVENUE PICTURE.
SO AGAIN, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, TICKETMASTER REVENUE, $2 MILLION PER YEAR REVENUE TO THE CITY, TOBIN CENTER REVENUE TO THE CITY, ONE AND A HALF MILLION.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, $500,000 IS GOING TO TOBIN CENTER RESIDENT COMPANIES, WHICH ARE OPERA, SYMPHONY, UM, BALLET.
THAT'S WHAT IS BEING PROVIDED IN THIS CONTRACT, 50,000 PER YEAR FROM TICKETMASTER TO CITY ARTS FUND.
WE ALL SUPPORT ALL THREE OF THOSE RESIDENT COMPANIES.
BUT WHAT I'M SUGGESTING FOR US TO LOOK AT IS THAT THE $500,000 THAT'S BEING, THAT'S GOING TO THE RESIDENT COMPANIES IS THREE OF A PLETHORA OF ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR, IN OUR CITY THAT ARE NOT INCLUSIVE OF JUST THE BALLET, THE OPERA, AND THE SYMPHONY.
I HAVE BEEN ROOTING FOR TOBY IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS WHEN IT BEGAN, BECAUSE IF WE DID HAVE AN AUTOMATIC REVENUE SOURCE THAT WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO THE SYMPHONY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO SEE.
BUT I'M JUST, I, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
IF THERE'S $2 MILLION OR 2 MILLION AND 50,000 GOING TO THE REVENUE OF THE CITY THROUGH TICKETMASTER, THIS COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE TO EARMARK SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO SEND THEM TO THE RESIDENT COMPANIES, TO SEND THEM TO THE ESPERANZA, TO SEND 'EM TO ANY OF THE OTHER ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF OUR CULT TWO ART EQUITABLE PROGRAMMING.
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IS NOT AN ISSUE OF REVENUE GOING TO ARTS ORGANIZATIONS.THIS IS A QUESTION OF, AS, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS AUDIT CONVERSATION, PICKING THE BEST COMPANY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES PROVIDED BRING THE BEST REVENUE TO THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO FUND ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AS A PUBLIC ENTITY.
MA, MAYOR, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
I THINK THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE DO.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS GONNA, UH, HOW, HOW THE COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT THIS UNTIL WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION, BUT, UM, AND I DO THINK THAT MAYBE WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS.
UM, AND, AND I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT CHECKING, UH, WITH OUR PARTNERS AT TICKETMASTER TO SEE IF WE CAN EXTEND THIS CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER MONTH.
BUT WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT IF ALL THINGS ARE BEING EQUAL AND WE SELECT THE COMPANY THAT'S BEST EQUIPPED TO, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE, THAT WE DO EXACTLY WHAT WAS INTENDED TO DO IN THIS PROCESS OF LOOKING FOR REVENUE THROUGH TICKETING, THAT WE, WE APPORTION SOME OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CONSISTENT REVENUE FOR OUR RESIDENT COMPANIES AND PERHAPS EVEN FOR OUR OTHER ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, WHETHER IT'S $500,000 MORE OR LESS.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.
UH, THANK YOU CARLOS AND PATRIZIA, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO HAVE, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOCAL PREFERENCE, UM, I KNOW WHEN WE SPOKE YESTERDAY, WHEN THAT CAME UP, YOU SAID IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS A THIRD PARTY, NOT JUST THE TOBIN ITSELF.
IS THAT CORRECT? CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION, PLEASE? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS, I KNOW THAT WE WERE STATING WHEN I ASKED YESTERDAY, IT WAS BECAUSE TOBIN IS USING A THIRD PARTY.
I GUESS, LET ME PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON LOCAL, LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS.
THEY CAN, THEY CAN EARN 10 POINTS IF THEY ARE CONSIDERED LOCAL, LOCAL.
A LOCAL COMPANY IS GONNA BE CONSIDERED, ONE HAS BEEN HEADQUARTERED IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR A YEAR OR MORE.
OR YOU CAN GET FIVE POINTS IF YOU HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL BUSINESS PRESENCE HERE, WHICH IS DEFINED AS A HUNDRED PEOPLE OR MORE, OR 20% OF THEIR, OF THEIR LABOR.
SO THE REASON THAT, UM, TOBIN IS NOT BEING CONSIDERED FOR LOCAL IS BASED ON THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
A NONPROFIT IS NOT CONSIDERED LOCAL AND THEREFORE WOULD NOT RECEIVE THE 10 POINTS.
SO, UM, THE NEXT QUESTION THAT WE WERE NOW IN, IN KIND OF CONVERSATION ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT REVENUE PIECE, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS, IS THE COST TO THE CITY FROM TOBIN YEARLY, OR IS THAT JUST A ONE-TIME COST TO THE CITY? HOW WOULD THAT WORK? YES.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE EQUIPMENT STARTUP COSTS, THAT'S A ONETIME THAT WOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.
THE HUNDRED THOUSAND WOULD BE A ONETIME, AND THAT WOULD BE A CITY EXPENSE.
AND THEN FOR THE TICKET STOCK, BASICALLY THAT WOULD BE AN ANNUAL COST OF ABOUT $16,000 TO US.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS 500,000, SO FOR THAT FIRST YEAR, WE'RE GONNA LOSE 269,000 OUT OF THAT MM-HMM.
AND THEN EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT, WE'LL GET THE ACTUAL 500,000 YES.
UNTIL I BELIEVE, UH, YEARS THREE AND FOUR, THERE WERE SMALL, UM, AMOUNTS.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IN YEAR, UM, THREE, ABOUT $10,000 COSTS THAT WOULD BE DEDUCTED AGAIN.
AND THEN IN YEARS THREE, UH, OR FOUR AND FIVE, AGAIN, ANOTHER YEAR, UH, THREE 25,000, AND IN YEAR, UM, UH, FIVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO AGAIN, FOR EQUIPMENT COSTS, FIRST YEAR, ABOUT 269,000, THAT WOULD BE NETTED OUT OF THE, UM, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.
AND IN YEAR FIVE, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND THEN WHEN IT LOOKED, LOOKING AT THE, THE PRESENCE WHEN IT COMES TO THE 24 7 TECHNICAL SUPPORT, TICKETMASTER, IS THAT ONSITE SUPPORT THEY'LL BE GETTING, GIVING US, COMPARED TO THE THIRD PARTY TECHNICAL SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM TOBIN? YES.
THE, THE TOBIN CENTER PROPOSAL IS A TIERED CUSTOMER SUPPORT.
THEY WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY HERE LOCALLY THAT IS TRAINED IN THE PLATFORM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PLATFORM.
THAT WOULD BE THROUGH AUDIENCE
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VIEW.SO RIGHT NOW, THE, THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE, WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS HOW THAT IS GONNA TRULY IMPACT THE ARTS CULTURE IS, IS WHAT THE BIGGEST DEBATE IS WHEN IT COMES TO LOOKING AT THAT 500,000, BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH A, A FIGURE THAT CAN BE USED FOR MORE.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOBIN AND TRULY THE LIFE OF THE SYMPHONY IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO PRESERVE.
UM, I WAS TELLING YESTERDAY HOW WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE SCHOOLS GOING TO SEE THE SYMPHONY ANYMORE.
THAT'S, IT'S ALMOST SOMETHING THAT IS FORGOTTEN OF.
AND WE TRULY NEED TO BRING THAT BACK INTO THE LIVES BECAUSE ARTISTS BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE SCHOOLS, IT'S BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE NONPROFITS AS WE SEE 'EM, CHILDREN ARE NOT BEING EXPOSED TO THOSE THINGS ANYMORE.
AND WE DO NEED TO FIND EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE CAN TO PRESERVE OUR ARTS AND CULTURE.
SO I WOULD, UM, CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES TO FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT STRETCH AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE CONTINUOUSLY HAVE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE ALAMO DOME AND AT THE CARVER.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE THAT TICKETMASTER STAYS IN PLACE UNTIL WE HAVE A FULL CONCISE DECISION ON WHERE AND WHICH DIRECTION WE WANNA GO? I KNOW THAT I SPEAK A LOT ABOUT USING OUR LOCAL RESOURCES TO TRULY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR CITY.
AND WITH TOBIN BEING ONE OF THOSE RESOURCES, I KNOW THAT THAT'S A BIG CONVERSATION THAT, THAT WE, THAT, THAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO, UM, IS SPEAKING OF HAVING.
AND SO AS WE PUSH FORWARD AND WE GET TO FINALIZE THE DECISIONS AS A COUNCIL, I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO TAKE EVERY PIECE OF THE PUZZLE AND PUT IT IN PLACE.
UM, I KNOW TICKETMASTER DOES REACH MANY, MANY MORE, UM, BUT WE CAN DO IT AS A CITY IF WE JUST PUT THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND PUT ALL OF WHAT WE CAN DO BEHIND IT AS WELL.
SO, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS CONVERSATION, I KNOW THAT WE'LL BE BACK IN TOUCH WITH MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE BEST PLATFORM THAT IS NEEDED, NOT ONLY FOR THE FACILITIES AND THE UPKEEP OF THOSE FACILITIES, BUT ALSO FOR THOSE THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING TO SAN ANTONIO TO VISIT THESE EVENTS AS WELL.
SO, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS CONVERSATION MORE, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE CAN GET TO FIND OUT HOW IT'S GONNA BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE, HOW IT'S GONNA BE MORE INFLUENTIAL IN KEEPING THOSE BIGGER DOLLARS HERE WITHIN THE CITY TO BE USED ON THAT ARTS PLATFORM.
I THINK THAT'S THE, THE VISION WE NEED TO SEE.
JUST A COMMENT ON THAT POINT ABOUT THE SYMPHONY.
WE, UH, NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ARTS AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE, UM, SEVERAL SHOWS IT'S, UM, YOUTH PROGRAMMING WHERE THE SYMPHONY WILL PLAY FOR TITLE ONE STUDENTS AT THE LIAH COCKRELL.
SO WE'VE, UM, WE'VE COORDINATED THAT THROUGH THE ARTS AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.
UH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I'M, I, YOU KNOW, I WAS CAUGHT A LITTLE OFF GUARD ALSO ABOUT THIS HAPPENING TODAY AND THEN VOTING ON IT TOMORROW.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CONTRACTS OUT THERE THAT IS FORCING US INTO THIS QUICK, QUICK, UH, TURNAROUND COMING UP? UH, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE COUNCIL ACTION DONE BEFORE THE CONTRACT RUNS OUT? I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AND MAKE SURE, BUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING.
YEAH, I'D, I'D LIKE TO GET A HEADS UP ON THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT LONG TIMELINE OF WHEN WE PUT CONTRACTS OUT AND THEN WE REVIEW IT AND, AND WE SET IT UP FOR A DATE TO HAVE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO REVIEW THESE AND THEN, UH, APPROVE 'EM AND GET 'EM, GET 'EM OUT RE-CONTRACTED.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, ARE THERE ANY OTHERS HANGING OUT THERE THAT WE'RE BUMPING UP AGAINST TIMELINES LIKE THIS, THAT, UH, UH, THAT WE DON'T GET INTO THIS SITUATION, LIKE THIS ONE HERE.
SO IF YOU COULD CHECK THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT THAT TROY CAN DO THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING, UH, UM, JUST LOOKING AT THE SCORING MATRIX, EVEN IF EVEN IF WE DID, UH, CHANGE THE ORDINANCE FOR THE LOCAL PREFERENCE TO NON-PROFITS, THAT'S 10 POINTS, IF I'M READING IT RIGHT, UM, THAT STILL WOULDN'T GET 'EM UP TO THE LEVEL OF, UH, TICKET MASTER ON HOW THEY WERE SCORED, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND, UH, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE, UM, WHY TICKET MASTER, TICKET MASTER IS SCORED SO VERY WELL BECAUSE THEY ARE INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN AND THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NATURALLY MIGRATE TO TICKETMASTER AND, AND GET GOING AFTER TICKETS, WHAT, WHATEVER THE VENUE IS.
UH, SO, UH, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE
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AS WAS STATED BEFORE, AND I SAW THAT RIGHT AWAY, ALSO, IF WE'RE GETTING $2 MILLION FROM TICKETMASTER, WE CAN DIVVY UP THAT $2 MILLION HOWEVER WE WANT TO.AND IF, UH, THE TOBIN IS HIGH ENOUGH ON THE PRIORITY LIST THAT THEY NEED A PORTION OF THAT MONEY, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE COUNCIL THAT WE COULD DO.
UM, VERSUS GOING WITH A LESS KNOWN, UH, TICKET COMPANY WITH NOT AS BIG A DISTRIBUTION AS TICKET MASTER FOR JUST TO FUND A PORTION OF THAT DIRECTLY TO THE TOBIN.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION IN DETERMINATION ABOUT THAT $2 MILLION WHERE THAT'S GONNA GO TO IN THE FUTURE.
SO YEAH, THEORETICALLY WE COULD CARVE OUT THAT PIECE OUT OF THAT ONE, UH, TO SUPPORT THE TOBIN IF, UH, WE SO DESIRE.
SO, UH, YEAH, OTHER THAN THE, YOU KNOW, BACKING THIS UP TO HAVING IT BRIEFED ONE DAY AND VOTING ON IT THE NEXT DAY, I, YOU KNOW, I, I STAND WITH THE PROCESS.
UM, Y'ALL CAME IN AND TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT.
UM, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH IT AND I'D BE READY TO VOTE FOR IT TOMORROW.
UH, AGAIN, THE NUMBER SPEAKS FOR THEMSELVES AND WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
IF THE TOBIN IS, UH, RANKED HIGH ENOUGH IN THE PRIORITY TO SUPPORT, UH, WE GOT THAT FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT WITHIN THAT $2 MILLION.
SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PATRICA.
COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, COUNCIL MEMBER GRO.
THANK YOU PATRICIA, FOR YOUR, UH, WORK AND YOUR DILIGENCE ON THIS.
AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AT A B SESSION AND NOT AT AN A SESSION.
AND WE DON'T HAVE SURPRISE THINGS COMING UP ON THE DAIS EITHER.
UM, I THINK TO MY, THE POINT OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY SAID, I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE LOCAL PREFERENCE AND THE ORDINANCE OF NONPROFITS, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD CHANGE THE GAME ON MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE, MANY OF THE PROCUREMENT, UH, PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE, IF WE ALSO INCLUDE THE NONPROFIT REALM IN THAT, AND THAT'S A LARGER CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LARGER, UM, LARGER POLICY CONVERSATION.
UM, I TOO AM VERY MUCH AT, AT EASE WITH LOOKING AT TICKETMASTER.
THE ONLY REASON I WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE MORE CONVERSATION IS TO SEE THAT NUMBER THAT WE DID, UH, HAVE ON THERE ABOUT, UM, THE 550,000 OR 500,000 AND THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.
THAT'S WHAT, UH, WHERE WE WOULD MAYBE SEE DIFFERENT MONIES OR SOMETHING.
SO LET ME LOOK AT THAT SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING, UM, SO THAT MAKES, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME.
UM, THERE'S ANOTHER, SO THE ECONOMIC TERMS, UH, SLIDE NINE.
GO THROUGH THAT ONE ONE MORE TIME FOR ME PLEASE.
SO IT'S 10,001 TIME ALLOWANCE TO HELP US ENHANCE THE BOX OFFICE AT THE LILA COCKRELL.
SO TICKET MASTER SAYS THEY WILL YES.
MOVING THAT FORWARD CONTRIBUTES, AND THE SAME THING WITH THE ALAMO DOME.
AND THEN A ONE-TIME SIGN-ON BONUS AS WELL? YES, YES.
THOSE ARE VERY GOOD NUMBERS THERE.
UM, AND TO THE POINT THAT WAS ALSO MADE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CONVERSATION DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS OF OTHER ARTS AND CULTURAL, UM, AGENCIES THAT AREN'T GETTING FUNDED AND THAT WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT AND LOOK AT FUNDING.
SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE A CONVERSATION ON THAT PORTION OF WHERE THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DOLLARS WOULD GO.
AND THEN WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT A HOLISTIC AND A COMPLETE VIEW OF THIS, WE ARE LOOKING ABOUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO SELL TICKETS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE IT EASY AND CONVENIENT FOR THE INDIVIDUALS? AND HOW ARE WE, WE KNOW WITH VISIT SAN ANTONIO, WE HAVE SOFT YEARS COMING UP.
SO IF WE CAN BRING PEOPLE, LIKE THAT DOCUMENT THAT YOU SHOWED ON METALLICA OR THE FOOTBALL GAME, THE, THE SOCCER GAME TO HAVE OVERNIGHT VISITORS THAT WILL HELP US.
AND THE WAY WE GET THAT IS IF IT'S CONVENIENT THROUGH THE INTERNET AND TECHNOLOGY.
UNFORTUNATELY, I I, WHENEVER I TRAVEL AND IF I WANNA POP UP A, A SHOW SOMEWHERE ELSE, LIKE IN, JUST RECENTLY WHEN I WAS IN NEW YORK, YOU, I USE TICKETMASTER VERY EASILY BECAUSE IT'S VERY MOBILE FRIENDLY.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, AND I SEE MICHAEL IN THE AUDIENCE TOO, UNFORTUNATELY, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT EASE WHEN I WAS TRYING TO BUY A TICKET TO GO SEE PATTON OSWALD AT THE, AT THE TOBIN.
IT WAS NOT WITH EASE AND IT WAS QUICK TURNAROUND AND IT WASN'T WITH EASE.
SO I HAD TO GO TO THE BOX OFFICE AND SEE
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IF THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE STILL AVAILABLE.AND, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO GO.
AND SO THAT WAS PART OF THE, THE CONSIDERATION WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AND THINK THROUGH WITH THAT EASE, UM, FOR EVERYONE, UH, TAKING PART OF THAT.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I WANT TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE COMPLETE STORY AS WELL, AND TO SEE THE EASE OF WHAT SANTON AND ALSO PEOPLE COMING IN FROM, UH, FLORESVILLE, HE LOTUS WHATEVER, CAN HAVE THAT EASE.
AND I THINK WE CAN GET THERE, BUT MAYBE JUST NOT AT THAT TIME, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO WORK TO THAT POINT IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU ERIC, FOR PLACING THIS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
I KNOW THAT, UM, WE HAD BEEN TRYING TO SCHEDULE A BRIEFING I KNOW A FEW WEEKS BACK, SO THANK YOU PATRICIA, ALSO FOR COMING AND TALKING TO ME WITH CARLOS YESTERDAY.
UM, AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST REMIND MY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL SHEET THAT BEN GO'S TEAM PUTS TOGETHER, LETTING US KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME HIGH PROFILE CONTRACTS COMING UP WITH DEADLINES ON THEM.
UH, WHEN I GOT THAT SHEET AND I WAS A FRESH, UM, LITERALLY JUST LIKE IN PROBABLY MY FIRST WEEK ON THE JOB, I CIRCLED ALL MY QUESTIONS AND I SENT THEM BACK TO BEN GAL'S OFFICE, AND I MET WITH TROY AND BEN AND I ASKED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS COMING UP.
SO I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO REACH OUT TO STAFF SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THESE, UM, DISCUSSIONS HERE.
AND THEN THIRD, I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT I, I, UH, THE PROCESS, UM, SO WE NOT ONLY HAD THE HIGH PROFILE REPORT, BUT WE ALSO HAD AUGUST THE 30TH AT AUDIT, UM, YESTERDAY AT AUDIT TODAY AND THEN TOMORROW.
SO I THINK THAT, UM, SESSIONS LIKE THIS HELP US.
I KNOW THAT TICKETMASTER HAS A MA UH, HAS AN APP, BUT DOES THE TOBIN CENTER HAVE AN APP? I BELIEVE IT'S THROUGH THEIR WEBSITE THAT PEOPLE GO AND PURCHASE THEIR TICKETS.
I WAS, I HAD, I WAS TRYING TO DOWNLOAD IT RIGHT NOW FOR EASE OF USE, BUT I COULDN'T FIND IT, SO I WAS JUST CHECKING ALSO, HOW MANY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE EVENT AT THE TOBIN CENTER, OR MORE SPECIFICALLY, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR CURRENT ARTS PROGRAMS THAT WE FUND AT THE CITY USE THE TOBIN CENTER? DEBBIE? SO OF OUR 47 ARTS AGENCIES, UH, EIGHT OF THEM ARE TOBIN RESIDENTS, UH, COMPANIES.
AND SO OTHERS DO USE THE TOBIN CENTER, BUT EIGHT OF THEM ARE TOBIN RESIDENT COMPANIES.
IS THERE A FEE FOR THE OTHERS? YES, THEY ALL PAY A, A FEE TO USE THE TOBIN, JUST LIKE THEY WOULD PAY FOR ANY VENUE THAT THEY, THEY NEED TO USE.
DO WE HAVE AN APPROXIMATE COMPARISON TO WHAT OTHER VENUES CHARGE VERSUS THE TOBIN? I DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, COMPARISON.
IT'S JUST ANS UH, AND IF YOU COULD JUST, JUST FOLLOW UP, I'M TRYING TO LEARN HERE AS I GO.
UM, AND THEN DO WE KNOW HOW MANY TIMES A TOBIN HAS HAD ISSUES, LIKE THEIR WEBSITE HAS BEEN DOWN OR, UM, ANYTHING, BUT LIKE I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
SO AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO LEARN, UM, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A POINT TO MY COUNSEL COLLEAGUES THAT IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT IT NOW MATTERS WHO THE CLEAR WINNER WAS, UM, UNTIL WE GOT NAMES NAMED.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE OUR MINDS WHEN THERE WAS A PROCESS ONCE WE LEARNED WHO ACTUALLY GOT AWARDED.
UH, AND SO I JUST, YEAH, I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT A POINT THAT I, I'M, I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT THAT WOULD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.
UM, I THINK THAT TICKETMASTER BRINGS A LEVEL OF BRAND EQUITY THAT MIGHT YIELD A LARGER RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR ALL OF OUR, UM, UH, FOR ALL OF OUR PRO, FOR ALL OF OUR CONCERTS OR ALL OF OUR, UM, SERVICES, IF YOU WILL.
AND THAT'S WHY, UM, I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN VIA GRANT, THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ANYWHERE, THEY JUST THINK TO GO TO TICKETMASTER.COM BECAUSE THEY'RE ASSUMING THAT THAT, SO AGAIN, THAT LEVEL OF BRAND EQUITY HAS TO YIELD SOME ADDITIONAL VALUE.
SO IF WE WILL BE MOVING IT FORWARD, WHICH I DON'T ADVOCATE FOR AN EXTENSION, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER BRAND EQUITY AS PART OF OUR COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS THAT WE DO.
UM, AND THEN IN CRUNCHING MY NUMBERS, I WAS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS WRONG, I GUESS A LITTLE BIT, SO I KNOW I, I WAS ADDING MY NUMBERS AND WAS LOOKING LIKE ABOUT TWO, 2.9 VERSUS 2.5.
UM, AND SO WITH THE TOBIN INVESTMENT, WE'D ACTUALLY GET ABOUT $1.75 MILLION.
AND SO I'LL GET SOME EXPLANATION ON THE MATH LATER, SO I'LL GET WITH YOU ALL LATER.
UM, BUT, UH, MY OTHER QUESTION WAS SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN PERRY'S, IF WE WERE AWARDED LOCAL PREFERENCE, UH, 10 POINTS, LIKE THEY, THEY WOULD STILL BE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
SO AGAIN, THAT WAS KIND OF MY CAUTIONARY TALE THAT WHY DOES IT MATTER NOW WHEN WE SEE WHO IT IS, UM, WHEN WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT THESE UP A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
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THAT WE HAVE $50,000 PER YEAR CITYWIDE BECAUSE IT CAN BRING ART SPECIFICALLY TO OTHER DISTRICTS BEYOND THE TOBAN CENTER AFFORDABLE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY.AND, UM, THIS COULD HELP WITH FOR, FOR INSTANCE, AT THE MISSION OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, RIGHT? AND SO, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MOST EXCITED ME ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.
I ALSO LIKE THE DATA COLLECTION ASPECT OF IT TO SEE WHERE, UH, FOLKS ARE COMING FROM.
SO WE CAN'T JUST KEEP CATERING TO THE SAME TYPE OF, OF, UH, OF PATRON, IF YOU WILL.
SO P N C ARENA HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF WORKING WITH TICKETMASTER, AND THEN RECENTLY THE KANSAS CITY THEATER LEAGUE ALSO USES DEMOGRAPHIC AND BEHAVIORAL PATRON DATA.
THIS HELPS BUILD OUR CASE FOR EQUITY.
AND SO E EQUITY FOR THE ARTS, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT IF WE HAVE ALL OF THIS DATA THAT TICKETMASTER ALREADY PROVIDES, WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AS AN ADDED AGAIN, UM, BENEFIT IN A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
UM, AND THEN ALSO I WANT TO, UM, ECHO, UH, COUNCILMAN OR, OR ACTUALLY I THINK IT WAS THE MAYOR THAT, UH, ASKED ABOUT EARMARKING FUNDS BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN ELAS WOULD BE HAPPY TO EARMARK FUNDS TO, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, UM, BRIDGES YOUR YEAH.
AND SO BEYOND JUST THE PROGRAMS THAT EXIST AT THE TOBIN, I CAN, IF WE DO A STUDY, CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW MANY RESIDENTS FROM DISTRICT FOUR VISIT THE TOBIN? DO WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF HOW MANY RESIDENTS FROM THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, THE TOBIN, THE TOBIN VISIT TOBIN EVENTS? SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS A PART OF OUR, UH, THE F Y 20 BUDGET.
THE DEPARTMENT OF ARTS AND CULTURE IS IMPLEMENTING A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR PERFORMING ARTS, AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH ALL THE PERFORMING ARTS VENUES, UH, THE TOBIN, THE LILA COCKLE, THE MAJESTIC THEATER, AND, AND OTHERS ALL AROUND TOWN AS WELL AS PERFORMING ARTS GROUPS TO ANALYZE ALL OF THAT DATA AND PUT IT PUT TOGETHER A PLAN.
SO WE WILL HAVE THAT, WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT YET.
'CAUSE THE NEXT QUESTION IS JUST GENERAL DEMOGRAPHICS.
I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE FOR THE TOVAN CENTER FOR ANYTHING FROM, UM, SALARY TO ETHNICITY, UM, TO YES.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER AS WELL.
UM, BUT THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS ON CYBERSECURITY SPECIFICALLY RELIABILITY.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IF THE TOBAN, I'M GONNA ASSUME, BUT MAYBE WE COULD ASK TICKET STER.
I'M SURE THEY HAVE CYBERSECURITY INSURANCE, AND SO I JUST WANT TO SEE THE COMPARABLE, UM, FOR, FOR THE, UH, FOR OUR LOCAL.
WE DEFINITELY, WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM TICKETMASTER HERE.
I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION.
BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO, UH, GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
UM, ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO SEE HOW MUCH OF THE PROGRAMMING IS DEDICATED TO CULTURAL INITIATIVES AT THE TOBIN.
UM, AND SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR ME ALSO TO CONSIDER.
UM, I ALSO WANT TO REFERENCE THAT I'VE PROPOSED THAT SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS CONSIDER, UH, PRESENTING AT THE CHIEFS OF STAFFS MEETING, UM, THAT HAPPEN WEEKLY.
SO IF YOU GUYS CAN'T GET TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH JIM GREENWOOD AND I'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR THIS, UM, BECAUSE OUR CHIEFS OF STAFF, IF WE'RE NOT AVAILABLE FOR BRIEFINGS, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO VISIT WITH THEM AND JUST, UM, YOU BASICALLY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO EVERYBODY, UH, THROUGH ONE CHIEFS OF STAFF MEETING, RIGHT? AND SO, AND YOU WOULDN'T BREAK ANY QUORUM RULES, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST, UM, GETTING SOME INFORMATION AND THEN THEY'RE PASSING IT ON TO US.
ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN TREVINO HAS MADE A, A GREAT CASE FOR LOCAL PREFERENCE.
I DO THINK THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE CONSIDER ALL OF THE FACTS, I STILL WOULD BE IN FAVOR FOR YOUR PROPOSAL TO MOVE FORWARD TOMORROW.
COUNCILMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
AND COUNCILWOMAN ROCHE IS GONNA EMBARRASS ALL US ALL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL STUDYING BEFORE WE COME TO CLASS EVERY THURSDAY.
UM, SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS.
I THOUGHT, UM, THEY WERE, UH, VERY RELEVANT.
AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE FEEDBACK, UH, ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT SHE ANSWERED, UH, AND HOPE THAT THOSE WILL BE TIMELY, UM, IN A FEW WEEKS OR SO WE COULD GET THE RESPONSES TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, I, I JUST, I, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE CONTRACT.
DOES IT HAVE TO BE EXCLUSIVE? CAN YOU, UH, UNLESS SOMEBODY ALREADY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION, I HAD TO STEP OUT FOR A MINUTE IN THE BE IN THE OPENING PART OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT COULD YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES SELLING THE SAME TICKETS? THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WERE EVALUATING, UH, KNOWING THAT ONE OF THE RESPONDENTS WAS NOT A TICKET MASTER, IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE, BUT THE TRANSFER OF INFORMATION, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAD AN AUDIENCE VIEW PLATFORM AND OUR TWO MAJOR TENANTS, THE VALERO ALAMO BOWL
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AND U T SS A HAVE TICKETING AGREEMENTS WITH, UM, WITH TICKET ASTOR, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME KIND.WHEN DO YOU TRANSFER ALL OF THE DATA? THERE'S PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE BUYING UP TO THE LAST MINUTE.
DO WE HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE AN, YOU KNOW, UM, AN EASY PROCESS WHEN PEOPLE COME IN THROUGH THE DOOR, HALF THEIR TICKET TO BE SCANNED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT ANY ISSUES WITH THAT? SO C SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUY TICKETS, I HAVEN'T, UH, BOUGHT TICKETS SORT OF OFFLINE IN A WHILE, BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN YOU WOULD BUY TICKETS FROM, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER SOURCE.
I WANNA SAY THIS IS EVEN BEFORE THE INTERNET, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ALWAYS A FRIEND WHO HAD THE TICKETS.
UM, IS THAT, HOW DOES THAT, I MEAN, THERE MUST STILL BE A SYSTEM WHERE YOU CAN BUY TICKETS FROM ANOTHER SOURCE, OR ARE THERE, ARE PEOPLE STILL BUYING TICKETS FROM TICKETMASTER AND THEN PRICING THREE TIMES OVER? SO, UM, AT THE ALAMO DOME, ABOUT 70% OF, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT ATTEND EVENTS AT THE ALAMO DOME BUY THEIR TICKETS AT THE BOX OFFICE.
AND BY DOING SO, THEY DO NOT, UH, PAY ANY CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEES RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY UNDER THIS CONTRACT, THEY DON'T PAY ANY TICKET MASTER FEES.
SO THEY GO UP TO THE BOX OFFICE.
A MAJORITY OF THEM, IN MANY OTHER VENUES, PEOPLE DO THAT AS WELL, BUT THEY ARE RESALE, UH, PLATFORMS THAT PEOPLE CAN SELL THEIR TICKETS ON.
SO, BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYWHERE THESE SYSTEMS. THERE'S, THEY'RE NOT, UM, OKAY, I THINK I UNDERSTAND HOW MAYBE THAT'S DONE.
UM, I, I SORT OF RECALL DURING SPURS GAMES SINCE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD SELL THEM SOFTWARE.
I KNOW, I'M AFRAID I'M DATING MYSELF.
I'M NOT ANSWERING, I'M NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
WE QUIZZED BOTH, UH, BOTH OF THE OTHER, UH, ALL THREE OF THE RESPONDENTS ABOUT SORT OF THE INTEROPERABILITY OF THE SYSTEMS. AND IT IS TECHNOL, TECHNOLOGICALLY, TECHNOLOGICALLY POSSIBLE TO DO THAT.
THERE'S SOME INFORMATION THAT'S GOTTA BE SHARED.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD DO THAT IN OUR BOX OFFICES TO HAVE THAT KIND OF, UH, FACILITIES WHERE DIFFERENT PEOPLE CAN SELL.
UH, IT'S ALSO A REVENUE CONTRACT, SO THE REVENUE CONTRACT BECOMES LESS ATTRACTIVE FOR SOMEBODY IF IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE.
AND THAT WAS, THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS IS, IS TO GIVE IT TO, TO 180 SO THEY CAN INVEST.
AND SO WE CAN GET A HIGHER, UH, RATE OF RETURN.
BUT I THINK TO BE FAIR, IT COULD BE DONE.
UH, YOU JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT AND WORK WITH THE ENTITIES THAT DO HAVE CONTRACTS WITH A PARTICULAR ENTITY, LIKE A TICKETMASTER, UH, OR SOMEBODY ELSE, OR EVENT BRI OR ANYONE ELSE.
YOU MENTIONED THAT 70% ARE DONE ON SITE.
UM, THAT'S A LOT OF TICKETS DONE ON SITE.
SO, UH, OF ALL THE TICKETS, THE, UH, THESE ARE ONLY FOR THESE TWO FOR CONVENTION AND SPORTS, BUT YOU MENTIONED CARVER AND A COUPLE OF OTHER FACILITIES AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ALL OF, ARE ALSO THOSE TICKETS SOLD AT 70% AT THE BOX OFFICE.
I DON'T HAVE THE PERCENTAGES FOR THE DELILAH COCKRELL AND THE CARVER.
THE 70% IS RELATED TO ALAMO DOME, UM, ATTENDEES.
UM, ALRIGHT, WELL, I, I, UH, REALLY JUST WANTED TO ASK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT PERHAPS, UM, IF THERE WAS THE POTENTIAL TO SHARE.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TOBIN'S TICKET IS A THIRD PARTY, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, THEY WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO SELL AT THE CARVER AND AT THE ALAMO DOME OR ANYTHING ELSE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THE, UH, TOBIN AND, AND WOULD THEY HAVE PRIORITY FOR THEIR OWN VENUE IN TERMS OF MARKETING? I'M NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION AGAIN.
UM, SO IF, IF, SO THE TOBIN'S PROCESSING IS A THIRD PARTY PROCESSING.
SO REALLY NOT RELATED TO THE TOBIN AT ALL IN TERMS OF, SO THEY DON'T HAVE PRIORITY FOR THEIR OWN EVENTS.
THIS WOULD OPERATE THE SAME WAY THAT THE CURRENT CONTRACT OPERATES.
WE WOULD BE ENGAGING, YOU KNOW, A TICKETING SYSTEM THAT WE WOULD HAVE AT OUR FACILITIES TO SELL TICKETS, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
I GUESS I'M, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BECAUSE I, I I, I, I GUESS IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I BOUGHT A TICKET.
UM, AND, UH, SO YOU COULD GO TO THE TOBIN SITE AND BUY A TICKET FROM THERE.
UH, AND YOU, BUT OTHERWISE, I HAVE GONE SPECIFICALLY TO BUY A TICKET FOR AN EVENT.
I HAVEN'T GONE TO TICKETMASTER AND TO SEE WHAT EVENTS ARE AVAILABLE.
SO I GUESS THIS IS WHAT I'M ASKING, UM, IF YOU KNEW YOU WERE GONNA BE IN SAN ANTONIO AND YOU JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS AVAILABLE.
UM, WOULD YOU GO TO LIKE, UH, YOU WOULD
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HAVE TO GO TO THE WEBSITE, THE ALAMO DOME WEBSITE OR THE LILA COCKRELL WEBSITE OR THE CARVER WEBSITE TO BUY A TICKET FOR AN EVENT AT THE FACILITY.BUT NOT THROUGH THAT THIRD PARTY.
NOT, BUT IF YOU WENT, IF YOU HAD, IF TICKET MASTERS ARE OR VENDOR, YOU GO TO TICKETMASTER AND SEE ALL THE EVENTS.
SO, UM, SO THIS OTHER PROCESSING CENTER THAT'S AT THE TOBIN DOESN'T HAVE ONLY TOBIN EVENTS.
AND THEN YOU CAN BUY THINGS TICKETS FROM ANOTHER PLACE.
I GUESS IT, IT, BECAUSE IT'S MARKETING, YOU GO TO A WEBSITE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE JUST TOBIN AND THEN AN ABILITY TO BUY TICKETS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
CLEARLY I'M NOT COMMUNICATING MY QUESTION VERY WELL.
I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, THE, AS FAR AS THE PROCESS, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TOBY UM, TICKETING SYSTEM, UM, ONCE YOU WOULD GO, COULD YOU GO INTO THE, UM, TOBIN CENTER WEBSITE AND WOULD IT SHOW ALL OF THE ALAMO DOME RIGHT.
EVENTS AND THE OTHER EVENTS? RIGHT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE IN THE PROCESS.
IT COULD CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN.
WELL, I JUST, I, I, OF COURSE, WE WANNA GET AS MUCH EXPOSURE AS POSSIBLE FOR ALL OF OUR EVENTS AND FOR EVERY, UM, UH, ACTIVITY IN TOWN.
SO THAT'S WHY IF A PERSON WAS VISITING AND THEY WANTED TO SEE WHAT SHOWS WERE AVAILABLE, FOR EXAMPLE, OR WHAT ENTERTAINMENT COUNCILMAN, I THINK, I THINK IN THE PRESENTATION, I THINK THEY DID SAY THAT, THAT YOU COULD GO, IF YOU WENT TO THE TOMAN CENTER, YOU WOULD SEE EVENTS AT THE TOMAN CENTER, CERTAINLY, BUT AT THE ALAMODOME AND LILA AND SO FORTH, I BELIEVE THAT WHETHER THAT WAS PRESENTED OR WE WOULD NEGOTIATE, THAT WE WOULD WANNA HAVE AS MUCH COVERAGE.
AND THEN TO BE FAIR, TOBIN CENTER WOULD WANNA DO THAT TOO.
'CAUSE THEY'D WANNA SELL TICKETS.
AND WE'RE NOT COMPETING, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE DON'T, THE, THE DOME DOESN'T COMPETE WITH THE TOBIN CENTER, RIGHT.
LILA DOESN'T COMPETE WITH THE TOBIN CENTER JUST BECAUSE OF THE CAPACITY OF EACH OF THOSE VENUES.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD'VE WOULD'VE BEEN AN ISSUE.
FOLKS ARE COMFORTABLE GOING TO THE TICKETMASTER WEBSITE TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MULTIPLE CITIES.
AND AS, UM, AS PATRICIA INDICATED ON THAT SLIDE, SHOWING METALLICA AND, AND THE, UH, AND THE SOCCER MATCH, NUMBER ONE, THEY WERE BROUGHT TO US, BROUGHT TO US, TO THE CITY BY AFFILIATES OF, OF TICKETMASTER.
ONE IS OWNED BY, ONE OWNS TICKETMASTER, THE OTHER'S AN AFFILIATE.
UH, AND MANY OF THOSE WERE OUTSIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.
SO YOU WOULD NOT KNOW NECESSARILY TO GO TO THE TOBIN CENTER OR TO THE, OR TO THE ALMO DOME TO LOOK FOR THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UH, ON SLIDE ON PAGE NINE OR SLIDE NINE, UH, AT THE TOP, WE SAY REVENUE TO THE CITY, AND WE'RE SAYING TWO, 2 MILLION PER YEAR, 1.5 MILLION PER YEAR BETWEEN THE TWO PREDOMINANT, UH, VENDORS, BUT NONE OF THAT IS GUARANTEED, THAT IS A PROJECTION.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND, UM, SO THE, FOR EXAMPLE, $50,000 THAT WE'RE ASKING OR A TICKET MASTER IS WILLING TO PROVIDE PER YEAR FOR ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, IS THAT A PROJECTION? IS THAT PENDING, OR IS THAT A GUARANTEE? THE ONLY NUMBERS THAT ARE PROJECTIONS AND BASED ON HISTORICAL FIGURES IS THE, IS THE TOP ONE THE REVENUE TO THE CITY.
THE OTHERS ARE AT GUARANTEED AMOUNTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE TICKETMASTER COLUMN, THE 250,001 TIME IS GUARANTEED, AS WELL AS THE MARKETING AND TECHNOLOGY FUND CONTRIBUTION OF 50,000.
AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL, UH, BENEFITS, THE 10,000 FOR THE LILA, THE 30,000 FOR THE ALAMO DOME REMOTE REMOTE BOX OFFICES, AS WELL AS THE 50,000 PER YEAR FOR THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.
SO HEAVEN FORBID WE HAVE AN OFF YEAR, UH, AND THEY ONLY BRING IN $1.8 MILLION.
UH, THOSE OTHER GUARANTEES, THE 50, THE 50 AND, AND THE OTHERS IN THE FIRST YEAR, THOSE WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA GET THOSE FROM TICKETMASTER.
UH, WITH TOBIN, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GET 1.8 MILLION? ARE THEY GONNA CLAIM THEIR 500,000 OFF THE TOP AND THEN WE MIGHT GET 1.3? OR IS THERE A FORMULA TO DETERMINE WHAT WE WOULD GET AND WHAT THEY WOULD KEEP FOR THE TOBIN CENTER MM-HMM.
SO, UM, FOR THE TOBIN, UH, PROPOSAL, UM, THEY SAID THAT, UM, WE WOULD GET 55% OF THE CUSTOMER FEE.
THERE'S TWO FEES UNDER THE COST.
CUSTOMER PROCESSING, THERE'S A CUSTOMER FEE, AND THERE'S A PROCESSING FEE.
THE CITY WOULD GET 55% OF THAT CUSTOMER FEE.
THE TOBIN WOULD GET 45% OF THAT CUSTOMER FEE AND ALL OF THE PROCESSING FEE.
BUT, SO DO YOU WANNA GO, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU
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DETERMINE THEY GET 500,000 PER YEAR TO THE TOBIN? WAS IT JUST 25% OF THE 2 MILLION? SO BASICALLY IT'S A PROJECTION.AGAIN, THEY'RE PROJECTING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROJECTING WHAT THAT CONVENIENCE FEE IS GONNA BE, WHAT THAT PROCESSING FEE IS GONNA BE.
THEN WE'RE DEDUCTING, UM, THE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES.
UM, THEY'RE DEDUCTING THE SOFTWARE COSTS, UM, IN ORDER TO HAVE, UM, THE SOFTWARE, BASICALLY THE SOFTWARE COSTS, THEN COMING UP WITH A NUMBER AND THAT NUMBER, THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE SPLITTING, YOU KNOW, 50, 50, 54, THE OPERATIONS OF THE TOBIN CENTER AND TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE TOBIN CENTER, THE OTHER 50, UH, PERCENT FOR THE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT TO ASSIST THE RESIDENT COMPANIES.
WELL, I GUESS I'M LOOKING BEYOND THE FIRST YEAR.
'CAUSE THOSE FEES ARE A ONE TIME FEE FOR TOBIN CENTER.
THE SECOND YEAR, THERE AREN'T THOSE ADDITIONAL FEES TO THEM.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WITH TICKETMASTER, WE GUARANTEED THOSE EXTRA MONIES EVERY YEAR.
SO, BUT, UH, AGAIN, COUNSEL, IF I COULD JUMP IN.
I, I, I BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, ARTS ENTERTAINMENT FUND WAS A FLAT $500,000.
SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH GUARANTEED THAT, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
THE, THE, THE OTHER, UH, FUNDS WERE BASED ON, ON, ON PROJECTIONS, I BELIEVE, IN A PERCENTAGE.
NOW, ALL OF IT, ALL OF IT WAS A PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING.
SO IF, IF WE HAD NO ACTIVITIES, THEN THEY WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO.
SO IF IT'S 1.8 MILLION, THEY MAY NOT GET 500,000.
THEY MAY GET 400,000 OR SOMETHING, AND WE MIGHT GET, YOU KNOW, 1.3 OR SOMETHING.
I JUST WANT TO, UH, KIND OF FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE I, I REALIZE NONE OF THIS IS GUARANTEED.
UH, AND OF COURSE IT COULD BE HIGHER.
WE COULD HAVE AN EXTREMELY GOOD YEAR, ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS, OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE LINE.
AND SO THESE NUMBERS COULD ACTUALLY BE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE THINK MIGHT BE A REASONABLE AVERAGE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
AGAIN, BASED ON HISTORICAL FIGURES, MY GOAL IS TO INCREASE OUR EVENTS AND THE QUALITY EVENTS SO THAT ULTIMATELY THAT REVENUE GOES UP AGAIN.
BUT IT DEPENDS, AGAIN, ON THE ABILITY OF OUR BUSINESS PARTNER TO PERFORM.
AND BEING THAT TICKETMASTER AS A MARKET LEADER, WE'RE HOPING WITH THAT COMBINATION, WE'RE ABLE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR REVENUE.
NOW, UH, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE 500,000 PER YEAR, WE HAVE IT LISTED AS ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FUND.
WHAT IS OUR, WHAT IS THE WORDING OF HOW THAT MONEY GOES TO THE TOBIN CENTER AND WHAT IS IT USED FOR? WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE ACTUAL WORDING IN THAT? SO, UM, AGAIN, THEY, UM, RECOMMENDED THAT UP TO 500,000 WOULD GO TO AN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT.
THE BALANCE OF THAT 50% WOULD GO TO THE RESIDENT COMPANIES, AND THE OTHER 50% WOULD GO TOWARDS THE OPERATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS MADE AT THE TOBIN CENTER.
SO THEN THEORETICALLY, IF IT'S 500,000, ABOUT 250,000 WOULD GO TO HELP SUPPORT THE EIGHT DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL, UH, VENUES THAT OPERATE OUT OF THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEY SAID.
SO WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HALF OF THAT 250,000 BEING SPLIT BETWEEN SEVEN OR EIGHT RESIDENT GROUPS OUT OF THE TOBIN CENTER EVERY YEAR.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA ALLOCATE FOR OPERA, HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA ALLOCATE FOR, UH, ANYBODY ELSE.
UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S GONNA BE UP TO THEM TO DECIDE THAT PROCESS WAS NOT IDENTIFIED.
UM, BUT THE 2 MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, IF WE GET THAT FROM TICKETMASTER, HOW IS THAT GONNA BE ALLOCATED? I'VE HEARD TALK ABOUT, WELL, MAYBE WE COULD USE SOME OF IT FOR THIS AND THAT.
WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR USING THAT $2 MILLION AS INCOME FROM, UH, FROM THIS CONTRACT? SO HISTORICALLY, ALL OF THE REVENUE THAT WE GENERATE GOES TO OFFSET OUR OPERATIONS AT OUR FACILITIES.
AND WHICH FACILITIES BENEFIT FROM THAT $2 MILLION? THEORETICALLY, IT IS THE ALAMO DOME.
UM, SO THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE ALAMO DOME ARE UNDER THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS FACILITIES FUND.
THE CARVER COMMUNITY CULTURAL CENTER IS NOT, IT IS FUNDED PRIMARILY BY THE GENERAL FUND, BUT THEY DO RECEIVE HOT DOLLARS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
BUT THIS MONEY WOULDN'T BE HOT.
IT WOULD BE WHAT GENERAL FUND THIS MONEY WOULD BASICALLY GO TOWARDS? UM, WOULD BE, YES, IT WOULD GO INTO THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS FACILITIES FUND, WHICH THE ALAMO DOME AND THE CONVENTION CENTER ARE A PART OF, BUT, BUT IT WOULD, IT'S NOT CHARACTERIZED AS HOT FUNDS COUNCILMAN.
UM, BUT WHAT OF OUR, A WHAT OF OUR FACILITIES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WOULD GET A FINANCIAL BENEFIT OR MAY GET A FINANCIAL BENEFIT FROM THAT? WHICH ONE OF OUR FACILITIES? JUST THE CONVENTION
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CENTER, JUST THE ALAMO DOME.BOTH THE ALAMO DOME AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
AND THE CONVENTION CENTER INCLUDES LILA COCKLE THEATER? YES, IT DOES.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE CARVER? THEY WOULDN'T GET ANYTHING OUT OF THIS.
THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS FACILITIES FUND.
UM, THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, THREE FACILITIES THAT PART ARE PART OF THAT AGAIN, ARE THE ALAMO DOME, THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND THE LILA KAEL.
COUNCILMAN FACILITY ISSUES FOR THE CARVER, WE WOULD, UH, TAKE ON THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, AND I RECOGNIZE THE VALUE, UH, COUNCIL, CAN I JUST ADD, GO AHEAD.
WE TALK ABOUT THE BENEFIT TO THE BUILDINGS.
WE'RE PRIMARILY TALKING ABOUT THE AOM AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
I THINK WE'D MENTIONED TO YOU AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE CAPITAL BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THE PROFORMA AND A FINANCING PLAN.
BOTH OF THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE, UH, SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE GONNA BE VISITING WITH YOU ABOUT.
SO, UH, PATRICIA MENTIONED THE REVENUES FROM THOSE BUILDINGS GO INTO THAT FUND.
WE USE THEM TO SUPPORT THE ACTIVITIES AT THE BUILDINGS, BUT ALSO TO SUPPORT MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AT THE BUILDINGS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON AND BRINGING YOU A PLAN, UH, NEXT SPRING TO ADDRESS AS MANY OF THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AS WE CAN.
SO IF WE WENT WITH THE TOBIN ISSUE, WE'D BE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS UNDERFUNDED, ACCORDING TO THESE NUMBERS, TOWARD OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR, UH, THE CONVENTION CENTER AND, AND, UH, THE, UH, ALAMODOME.
'CAUSE WE'D ONLY GET 1.5 MILLION INSTEAD OF 2 MILLION A YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS.
AND IF WE EXTENDED OVER 10 YEARS, THEN WE'D BE MISSING OUT ON $5 MILLION.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, I, I'M AN ADVOCATE, UH, FOR THE ARTS.
I, I GO, I SUPPORT, I SEND MY OWN PERSONAL MONEY THERE AND, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL DO THAT.
UH, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE BIGGEST RETURN TO THE CITY, UH, AND I REALIZE THAT, UH, TICKETMASTER, AS MUCH AS I HAVE A PROBLEM PAYING THOSE EXTRA FEES, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE MAY, UH, IS GOING TO BE A BETTER MARKETING PARTNER FOR WHAT WE HAVE THERE AND WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE THERE.
UH, TOBY IS GONNA ADVERTISE IN THE EXPRESS NEWS AND THE CURRENT AND OTHER LOCAL MEDIA, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, IF IT'S GONNA HELP US DRAW MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE COMING TO VISIT SAN ANTONIO, OR WHO MAY WANNA COME VISIT SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SEE IS GONNA BE PLAYING HERE.
SO I'D BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SHOULD THE COUNCIL DECIDE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ACT ON THIS YET AND PUT IT OFF.
BUT, UM, I'M MORE INCLINED TO JUST, UH, SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE STAFF IS MAKING RIGHT NOW ON, UH, GOING WITH THE, THE VENUE, UH, FROM THE NUMBER ONE, UH, OPERATOR.
UM, I'M OKAY WITH TICKETMASTER.
UH, AND I THINK Y'ALL DID A THOROUGH JOB VETTING THEM.
UM, HOWEVER, AND, AND ERIC, I THINK THIS IS, UH, FOR BOTH OF YOU, I THINK THIS IS WHAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO, UM, IN HIS QUICK LITTLE STORY, THAT WAS THE LONGEST QUICK LITTLE STORY EVER, BY THE WAY,
UH, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHTED, THE, THE PART THAT REALLY JUMPS OUT AT ME IS THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR US TO HAVE LONGER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT, UM, AND TO REALLY DIVE DOWN DEEP INTO THESE THINGS.
AND SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL REITERATE MY POINT, AND THAT IS, THESE BLACKOUT PERIODS ARE UNCOMFORTABLY TIGHT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE TIME BETWEEN WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT IT AND WHEN WE VOTE ON IT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IS, IS UNCOMFORTABLY TIGHT.
UM, AND, UM, I JUST WISH IT WAS LESS UNCOMFORTABLY TIGHT.
AND SO, I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY CONVERSATION ANYTIME, UH, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER HOW GRANULAR IT IS AND HOW IN THE WEEDS WE HAVE TO GET ABOUT IT.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, I'D LOVE TO DO THAT IN MY OFFICE, UH, WITH YOU GUYS.
BUT SO LONG AS WE HAVE IT, AND WE, WE GOT ENOUGH TIME.
SO THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENTS.
BUT THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HARD WORK GUYS.
UH, NO, ACTUALLY, UM, AGAIN, JUST THANK YOU ALL.
I, YOU KNOW, I WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR HERE AND WHAT I WANTED TO GIVE SOME HISTORY ABOUT HOW WE, UH, GOT TO, TO THIS POINT.
BUT I, I THINK I HEARD THAT THERE'S A WILLINGNESS FOR STAFF TO, TO EARMARK SOME OF THESE FUNDS TOWARDS ARTS.
UH, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT BEFORE, SO I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA ASK THAT AGAIN BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT WAS ASKED EARLIER, AND THE ANSWERS SEEM TO BE YES.
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UH, UH, WE WILLING TO EARMARK SOME OF THESE FUNDS TOWARDS THE ARTS COUNCILMAN, AS I INDICATED TO THE MAYOR, IT'S THE, IT'S THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE TO, TO DIRECT THE CITY ON HOW TO DO THAT AND WHAT TO DO WITH THE, WITH THE RESOURCES.SO IF I ASK FOR A RECOMMENDATION, WE, WE COULD START TO COME FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.
FOR EXAMPLE, AS COUNCILMAN COURAGE SAID, THESE ARE PROJECTIONS MM-HMM.
AND SO PERHAPS IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD TALK ABOUT MAYBE A PERCENTAGE, UH, THAT GOT YOU A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
SO AS THINGS GO UP AND DOWN, THERE'S LESS OF A, OF A REDUCTION FROM THE REVENUE THAT THE CITY'S GONNA USE FOR ITS FACILITIES.
UH, I JUST WANNA REITERATE WHAT, WHAT, UH, BEN HAS INDICATED.
WE HAVE A, A, A LARGE NUMBER OF, TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF NEEDS, UH, AT BOTH FACILITIES.
AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR ROLE IS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE GENERATE AS MUCH REVENUE AS WE CAN FOR FACILITY.
WELL, AND, AND I'D LIKE TO TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A A YEAH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT, UH, UH, FOR REASON I DON'T WANNA ARTICULATE PUBLICLY, I WOULD RECOMMEND IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE OPTIONS, COUNCILMAN, IT'LL BE A GENERIC EARMARK FOR THE, FOR THE ARTS AND NOT FOR SPECIFIC, UM, ARTS GROUPS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, BUT AGAIN, SO LET'S JUST, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU SOME MORE SURE.
UH, AFTER THIS B SESSION AND, UH, WORK WITH YOU ON WHAT WE CAN WORK OUT TOWARDS THAT.
BUT AGAIN, I, I THINK THAT THIS IS, AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST DESERVES A, A LARGER CONVERSATION AND ABOUT WHY WE, WE WERE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION.
AND I HAVE A TEXT MESSAGE FROM COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL.
I THINK SHE TRIED TO TEXT COUNCILMAN PALAIS, BUT I THINK HE BLOCKED HER.
UM, BUT COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL IS ASKING IF THERE'S AN OPTION OR IF WE COULD CONSIDER AN OPTION FOR ADDING A $1 FEE TO TICKETS TO SUPPORT THE ARTS FUNDING.
SHE'S ALSO ASKING IF, UM, IF CONSIDERATION TO LOOK AT MANDATORY SERVICE FEE VERSUS OPTIONAL FEE.
AND, AND, UH, FOR INFORMATION ON HOW MUCH $1 WOULD WOULD RAISE IN EACH OF THOSE CASES.
WE CAN GET YOU THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT, HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, THE $1 WOULD, WOULD RAISE.
I WOULD REMIND COUNCIL, UH, I THINK OUR CITY ATTORNEY WANTS TO SURE.
JUMP IN A COUNCILWOMAN, BUT, UM, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS YOU CAN ADD, BUT COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL, SHE'S NOT HERE.
I THINK WHAT FATIA WAS ABOUT TO SAY WAS THAT WE DO ALREADY HAVE $5 AND 50 CENTS PER TICKET AND, AND FOR MANY OF OUR USERS OF THE FACILITY, INCLUDING SOME THAT ARE HERE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A LOT.
UH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, $20 TICKET, UH, FOR EACH ONE OF 'EM, THAT BECOMES QUITE A, QUITE A BIT.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER GRO.
I, I THINK, UM, ALONG THAT SAME LINES, THERE WERE, UH, I THINK THE TOI AND TICKETMASTER ALREADY HAS A FEE LOCKED ONTO BOTH OF THEM FOR CERTAIN, FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
SO I, I'D BE INTERESTED JUST TO GET A LIST OF WHAT THOSE ARE.
I, I'LL, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT BACKUP SLIDE.
AND JUST, SO, UM, THE BACKUP SLIDE ON THE FEES, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEES UNDER THE DIFFERENT PROPOSAL? YES.
BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ONE THAT SAYS IT'S A PHONE INTERNET FEE, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER FEE.
UM, WELL, IN THIS PARTICULAR, THIS IS HELPFUL.
IN THIS PARTICULAR, IT'S BASICALLY THE FEES THAT WOULD BE CHARGED TO A CONSUMER BUYING AN ONLINE TICKET.
AND IT, AND WE'RE PROVIDING, UM, WHAT IT WOULD BE THE CUSTOMER PROCESSING FEE FOR A 20 TO $40 FAMILY EVENT, YEAR ONE UNDER TICKETMASTER, TOBY, AND SQUAT UP.
AND THEN IN YEAR 10 UNDER, UH, TICKETMASTER, TOBY AND SQUAT UP.
AND THEN IF YOU GO DOWN, BASICALLY IT, UM, SHOWS YOU THE FEES THAT ARE RETAINED BY THE VENDOR, THE FEES THAT WOULD BE RETAINED BY THE CITY, AND THEN THE TOTAL FEES FOR THE CUSTOMER.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YEAR ONE UNDER THE TICKET MASTER PROPOSAL, A FEE, UH, UH, PROCESSING FEE WOULD BE 1350 FOR SOMEBODY BUYING A 20 TO $40 FAMILY, UM, TICKET.
AND THEN IT WOULD BE 1325 UNDER THE TOBY AND $3 AND 51 UNDER THE SQUAT UP IN YEAR 10, THOUGH, THE FEES FOR THE CONSUMER, BECAUSE REMEMBER THEY INCREASE 20 CENTS EVERY OTHER YEAR, AND THEN THEY INCREASE 50 CENTS UNDER THE TOBIN PROPOSAL.
SO FOR THIS 20 TO $40, UH, TICKET, A FAMILY EVENT, IT WOULD BE $14 AND 70 CENTS IN YEAR 10.
AND THEN UNDER THE TOBI, UH, PROPOSAL OR TOBIN CENTER'S PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE $15 AND 25 CENTS.
AND THEN PLUS, AGAIN, OUR FEE IS ON TOP OF THAT.
AND AGAIN, THESE FEES ARE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T, DON'T HAVE TO, THEY COME TO THE BOXES
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BOX OFFICE, THEY DON'T PAY THESE PROCESSING FEES, BUT THEY DO PAY, OR FIVE 50 OF FEES THAT MOST, UH, MAJORITY OF THAT FIVE 50 IS TO GO OFF TO OFFSET THE DEBT ON THE RECENT RENOVATIONS AT THE ALAMO DO.AND ONE MORE QUESTION ON SLIDE 10, THE MATRIX, THE SCORING MATRIX, UM, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, ON C UNDER PRICE, SQUAT UP GOT 1.97, WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT? AGAIN, THEY WERE GETTING BASICALLY 10% OF THE 10% FEE THAT THEY'RE CHARGING CUSTOMERS.
SO THAT'S REVENUE TO THE CITY, RETURN TO THE CITY, 173,000 COMPARED TO 2 MILLION AND A MILLION AND A HALF.
WELL, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'VE, I'VE HAD ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I'VE GIVEN ALL MY QUESTIONS, I'VE HAD MY ANSWERS.
SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING FORWARD TOMORROW.
YEAH, JUST ONE, ONE OTHER COMMENT.
THERE WAS A THING ABOUT, UH, WELL, LET'S ADD ANOTHER DOLLAR ONTO THE TICKETS.
I, MAN, I'M TELLING YOU, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE ENOUGH ALREADY THE WAY IT IS, YOU KNOW, FOR A FAMILY TO GO OUT AND BUY THESE TICKETS, NUMBER ONE, AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT PARKING AT THE, AT THE FACILITIES, IT'S, IT'S GETTING TOO EXPENSIVE THE WAY IT IS.
SO WE'RE IN THIS PROPOSAL, WE'RE GETTING $2 MILLION BACK FOR THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MORE DO WE WANT TO GRAB FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO THESE, UH, EVENTS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO? AND I, I'M, I'M TELLING YOU, UM, WE GOT, I, I, I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN REDUCE OUR TICKET PRICES AND NOT INCREASE 'EM TO GET MORE MONEY HERE FOR THIS CITY.
SO I, I WOULD, I'D BE JUMPING UP AND DOWN IF PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO ADD, ADD PRICES OR ADD COSTS TO THE PRICE OF THESE TICKETS HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T GO TO THESE EVENTS BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD 'EM RIGHT NOW.
COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.
I'M SO GLAD THAT WE WERE CONTINUING TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAD IN MY MIND THAT I WAS ASKING YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON FINALLY PRESENTED THEMSELVES AT THIS MOMENT.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO GET TO WAS EXACTLY HOW MUCH IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR RESOURCE BRINGING IN TICKETMASTER THAT WE TRULY SEE COMING BACK BASED ON THOSE TICKET PRICES.
WHERE DO WE REALLY SEE THE BENEFIT? GOING BACK INTO THE ARTS AND FINDING THAT NUMBER AND SEEING IT COME UP RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT, TRULY MADE THE DIFFERENCE AND LETTING US KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE WILL GET THOSE NUMBERS, HOW WE WILL GET THAT MONEY INTO THE RIGHT AND THE PROPER AREAS THAT IT NEEDS TO GO.
SO THANK YOU COUNCIL COLLEAGUES FOR CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT READILY AVAILABLE FOR US TO SEE FIRSTHAND.
AND SO I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF, OF MOVING FORWARD.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PATRICIA, UH, AND STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I THINK THAT IS, UH, ALL OF THE ITEMS ON OUR BUSINESS AGENDA.
WE DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO GET TO, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, CEREMONIALS TODAY AT FIVE 30, UH, FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO THE TIME IS NOW 4:37 PM ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH.
THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WILL NOW MEET AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.087, EXCUSE ME, 0 7 1 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND TO DELIBERATE TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 REAL PROPERTY AND LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.