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[9:00 AM – Call to Order]

[00:00:06]

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR TODAY, WHICH IS FRIDAY, FEBRUARY THE 21ST, 2023, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, 25 GOING BACKWARDS.

THE HISTORICAL COMPLIANCE AND TECHNICAL ADVISORY BOARD.

AT THIS TIME, COULD WE PLEASE TAKE ROLL CALL DAVIS FLORES.

HERE.

GARCIA.

HERE.

ARD.

HERE.

SETZER.

HERE.

FULLERTON? HERE.

P*****K.

HERE.

VASQUEZ.

PRESENT.

AND SEPULVEDA.

HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM COURT.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND READ THE CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT AND THEN WE'LL DO THE ELECTION.

ALL RIGHTY.

I APOLOGIZE.

WE DO NEED OUR TRANSLATION SERVICES.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THE COMPLIANCE AND TECHNICAL ADVISORY BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

I AM JUANITA CHAIRWOMAN AND THE VICE CHAIR IS JASON VASQUEZ.

IT IS THE FUNCTION OF THE BOARD TO ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND ALL RELEVANT CITY DEPARTMENTS CONCERNING CERTAIN APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS FOR PROPERTIES IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND LANDMARKS.

IN CONSIDERING WHETHER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, THE BOARD SHALL BE GUIDED BY THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEPART DEVELOPMENT CODE AND DESIGN GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

AN APPEAL OF IN A DECISION BY AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE CAN BE FOLLOWED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION IN ANY ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA, PLEASE SIGN UP ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT SHEET.

IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO SIGN UP.

IF YOU ARE THE OWNER OR REPRESENTATIVE FOR OR A PROJECT ON THE AGENDA, YOU'LL BE CALLED ON AS THE CASE IS CALLED.

CASE REPRESENTATIVES WILL BE GIVEN NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE WITH AN ADDITIONAL TWO MINUTES TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SPEAKERS FOR THE OPPOSED TO A CASE WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES.

EACH SPEAKERS MAY ALSO SIGN UP TO YIELD THEIR TWO MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER WHO HAS SIGNED UP.

ANYONE WHO IS YIELDING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE SPEAKER IS CALLED UPON.

SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE SIGNED UP FOLLOWING PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

ANY COMMISSIONER MAY CALL UPON THE SPEAKER TO RESPOND TO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

APPROVAL BY THE BOARD DOES NOT TAKE PLACE OF ANY TYPE OF PERMITS.

PERMITS MUST BE OBTAINED FOR ALL WORK.

CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR WORK APPROVED BY THE BOARD WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU WITHIN 10 DAYS.

NO WORK OF ANY TYPE IS TO BE STARTED WITHOUT OBTAINING THE APPROPRIATE CITY PERMITS.

AFTER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HAS BEEN ISSUED BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORICAL PRESERVATION AT THIS TIME, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.

OKAY, WELL GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

UM, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS IS OUR FIRST HEARING OF THE NEW YEAR, WHICH MEANS WE WILL DO OUR ANNUAL ELECTION OF OFFICERS.

UM, SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL TAKE NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR FOR THE POSITION OF CHAIR.

MR. EDWARDS.

I'D LIKE TO, UH, RECOMMEND OR MOVE, UM, THAT OUR, UH, CURRENT CHAIR MSTA, UH, BE NOMINATED, UH, FOR CHAIR AGAIN AND MR. VASQUEZ, UH, ONCE AGAIN AS VICE CHAIR.

OKAY.

WE'LL DO VICE CHAIR NEXT.

UM, DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION OF, UH, SECOND.

OKAY.

THERE.

PERFECT.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, NOMINATIONS? OKAY.

SO ALL IN FAVOR OF CHAIRMAN SEPULVEDA EXTENDING HER TERM.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYE.

THAT WAS ALL AYES.

UM, SO NEXT ITEM IS, UH, POSITION OF VICE CHAIR.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR JASON, UH, VELA VASQUEZ TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR.

ONE MORE TIME.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

RIGHT.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

UM, AT THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE TO APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES, UH, FROM NOVEMBER 22ND, 2024.

MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 2ND, 2024 MEETING SECOND 2024.

YES, MA'AM.

YES.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

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FLORES.

AYE.

GARCIA.

AYE.

REGARD? AYE.

SETZER.

AYE.

FULLERTON.

AYE.

P*****K.

AYE.

VASQUEZ.

AYE.

AND SEPULVEDA.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM OF BUSINESS AND THAT IS APPROVAL OF THE, UH, SCHEDULE OF MEETINGS FOR THE YEAR.

UM, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE POSTED AGENDA.

UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? DO WE HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? COREY? ONE QUICK QUESTION.

ARE THEY ALL AT THE SAME TIME? SAME SCHEDULING? YES.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE THE, UH, FRIDAY FOLLOWING THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF HDRC.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SCHEDULING FOR THE 2025 YEAR.

THANK YOU.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND, THIRD MOTION FOR A FIRST AND A SECOND? ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

FLORES AYE.

GARCIA.

AYE.

BRI REGARD? AYE.

SETZER.

AYE.

FULLERTON AYE.

POLL.

AYE.

VASQUEZ.

AYE.

AND VEDA AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

MADAM CHAIR? YES.

UM, CAN I HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION? CAN THE CITY SEND OUT ANOTHER SET OF INVITES ON OUR OUTLET CALENDAR? SO THEY'RE UPDATED? YES.

THOSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT ALREADY, BUT WE'LL VERIFY.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THOSE RECURRING MEETINGS AND OUTLOOK CAN SOMETIMES GO HAYWIRE.

SO IF IT LOOKS WRONG ON YOUR END, LET US KNOW AND WE WILL JUST RESEND IT.

OKAY.

UM,

[INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION]

KAITLYN, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT THE, UM, THE SHEET, UH, THE CASE LIST UP ON THE SCREEN? THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO, UH, WE CAN DRAW OUR ATTENTION TO THE SCREEN AT THIS TIME.

UH, WE HAD FOUR ITEMS SCHEDULED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

JUST TO NOTE THAT ITEM ONE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.

UH, THEY ARE GOING TO COMPLY WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.

SO AT THIS TIME, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO.

UM, KAITLYN, IF YOU WANNA START WITH THAT.

COREY, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST? WE DO NOT.

OKAY.

WE JUST HAVE, UM, COMMENTS ON CASES ON INDIVIDUAL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE HDRC, COMPLIANCE AND TECHNICAL ADVISORY BOARD.

AGENDA CASE NUMBER 2 0 2 5 DASH 0 2 4 18 17 EAST HOUSTON STREET.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ONE, REMOVE THE EXISTING SIDING TO INCLUDE VINYL FAUX FORMED STONE AND ONE 17 WOOD SIDING.

TWO, REPLACE THE EXISTING SIDING WITH ENGINEERED WOOD SIDING.

THREE, REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING ALUMINUM WINDOWS ON PRIMARY FACADE WITH A VINYL WINDOW PRODUCT AND FOR REDUCTION OF EXISTING HISTORIC OPENINGS AND REPLACEMENT OF HISTORIC WOOD WINDOWS WITH A VINYL WINDOW.

PRODUCT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING NON HISTORIC SIDING, WHICH INCLUDES VINYL AND FAUX FORM STONE BASED ON FINDINGS A AND B TWO STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND WHOLESALE REPLACEMENT OF THE HISTORIC WOOD SIDING.

INSTEAD, FINDS THE APPLICANT SHOULD REPAIR THE EXISTING HISTORIC SIDING WITH IN KIND MATERIAL THAT MATCHES EXISTING AND PROFILE DIMENSIONS, MATERIAL AND FINISH ONE BEYOND REPAIR BASED ON FINDINGS, A AND B THREE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING ALUMINUM WINDOWS OF THE FRONT FACADE WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATION, ESSENTIALLY THAT THE APPLICANT INSTALLS FULLY WOOD OR WOOD CLOUD WINDOWS THAT MEETS STAFF STANDARD WINDOW STIPULATIONS FOR, UH, WOOD WINDOW REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT FOR STAFF.

DOES NOT RECOMMEND REDUCTION OF THE SIZE OF THE HISTORIC OPENINGS NOR REPLACEMENT OF THE HISTORIC WOOD WINDOWS.

BASED ON FINDINGS, A AND C STAFF RECOMMENDS REPAIR OF THE EXISTING HISTORIC WOOD WINDOWS OR REPLACEMENT IF DEEMED NECESSARY.

WITH THE WINDOW PRODUCT THAT MEETS STAFF STANDARD WINDOW STIPULATIONS, THE APPLICANT SHOULD SUBMIT UPDATED SPECIFICATIONS TO STAFF FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

UM, AND BEFORE I FORGET, UM, THERE IS A VOICEMAIL AS WELL AS SOME LATE MATERIALS THAT AREN'T IN YOUR FILES, BUT I WILL SHOW YOU HERE ON THE SCREEN.

AND APPLICANT, RIGO THOMAS IS HERE WITH US TODAY.

MY ADDRESS OR THE, THE ADDRESS FOR THE, FOR THE PROPERTY.

UH, WHAT'S THE ADDRESS AGAIN? 1817 EAST HOUSTON.

OKAY.

RIGO THOMAS, UH, FOR 1817 EAST HOUSTON.

NOW YOU'LL PRESENT YOUR CASE.

OH, OKAY.

UM, WELL, IN THIS PROPERTY, UM, I, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ACTUALLY WE ARE, UH, DOING A PROJECT WITH THE HISTORICAL, UH, DISTRICT AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MUCH COMPLICATION, UM, THERE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, BRING TOGETHER LIKE EVERY PUZZLES AND

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AS WE DISCUSSED WITH KAITLYN AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS PROJECT GOING.

UM, I WORK WITH MY ARCHITECT AND HE, UH, HE GIVE US LIKE A SPEC OF THE PLANE.

UM, IT'S BEEN A, LIKE A BACK AND FORTH, LIKE FOR HIM TO GUIDE US AND, AND ON CERTAIN THINGS LIKE WINDOWS AND WINDOW, FOR FACT, THE WINDOWS.

UM, IN THE BEGINNING I DID NOT WANT TO TOUCH THEM.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS AWARE OF.

I KNOW THAT I CAN GO AHEAD AND FIX THE EXISTING WINDOWS.

NOW THE PROBLEM IS WE ARE DOING A LITTLE ADDITIONS IN THE BACK, WHICH IS ABOUT LIKE A 300 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION, UM, THAT THESE ARE GONNA BE LIKE NEW WINDOWS.

UM, AND ME AND CAITLIN WE ALSO DISCUSSED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, SHE WAS ASKING ME LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, IF, IF YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, TO PROVIDE A SPEC OF THOSE WINDOWS.

AND, UM, I WENT TO SOME PLACES AND WHERE THEY, WHATEVER THEY GIVE TO ME, THEY SAID, OKAY, THIS IS LIKE WHAT THE CITY IS REQUIRING.

UM, I SUBMITTED THOSE, I THINK IT WAS THE ONE WAS PROBABLY LIKE A VINYL TYPE OF WINDOWS.

UM, BUT WE, UH, WORKING TO GET BETTER SPECIFICATION ON THE WOOD WINDOW, I BELIEVE YOU'RE ASKING ME FOR.

AND ALSO THE SIDINGS.

UH, WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE THE SIDINGS TO A WOOD TYPE OF SIDINGS JUST BECAUSE THE EXISTING ONE, LIKE, UH, MOST OF THEM ARE LIKE, UH, WAS FADED AND, AND AND BROKEN.

UM, AND UNDER THAT SIDINGS IS EXISTING WOOD SIDING.

UH, THEY JUST COVER, PUT IT OVER, UH, WOOD SIDING IN THE PAST.

AND I WAS GUESSING MAYBE WE CAN JUST DO GO STRAIGHT WOOD SIDING WITH WHATEVER THAT EXISTING UNDER THOSE, THE, WHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

AND WE HAVE A WINDOW ON THE FRONT.

UM, THIS WINDOWS WAS CHANGED BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER, UM, DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS A PROBLEM.

UH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A WOOD WINDOW AND THEY KIND OF COVER IT UP.

WE WERE NOT PLANNING TO TOUCH IT, BUT KAITLYN SAID, WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WALK WITH IT TO PUT IT UP THE STANDARD WITH THE HISTORIC AREA AND THEN, WHICH WE ARE WILLING TO DO.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR VOICEMAILS FOR THIS? YES, VOICEMAIL.

THANK YOU.

HELLO, MY NAME IS LULU FRANCOIS, CHAIRWOMAN OF THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD REVIEW COMMITTEE FROM D WHITTY HILL.

I'M CALLING IN ON CA CASE NUMBER 2025 DASH 0 2 4.

TO OFTEN WE SEE APPLICANT'S THAT WOULD HAVE REQUESTED TO DEMOLISH A HOUSE THAT IS RUN DOWN AND NEGLECTED LIKE THIS DUE TO THE TIME AND EXPENSE IT WOULD TAKE TO BRING IT BACK TO ITS STATE OF GLORY.

SO THE FIRST THING WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR TAKING ON THIS PROJECT AND RENOVATING THIS HISTORIC HOUSE.

WITH THAT SAID, WE AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD REPAIR THE EXISTING HISTORIC SIDING WITH IN KIND MATERIAL THAT MATCHES THE SIDING AND PROFILE DIMENSIONS OF MATERIAL AND FINISH.

THE ORIGINAL SIDING IS ONE 17 SIDING AND IT'S EASILY AVAILABLE TO BUY AT ANY HOME RENOVATION STORE.

WE ALSO AGREE THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD REPLACE THE EXISTING ALUMINUM WINDOWS WITH THE STIPULATION THAT HE INSTALLED FULL WOOD OR WOOD CLAD WINDOWS THAT MEET THE STAFF'S STANDARD WINDOW STIPULATIONS.

THE APPLICANT SHOULD NOT REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE HISTORIC OPENINGS OR REPLACE THE HISTORIC WOOD WINDOWS, ESPECIALLY THE BEAUTIFUL WINDOW WITH THE DECORATIVE DESIGN AT THE TOP.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARDS OR DISCUSSION.

DO WE HAVE ANY ONLINE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NONE.

THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE QUESTION.

GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

JUST TO CLARIFY, DID YOU SAY THAT UNDERNEATH THE, THE FO SIDING IS STILL THE ORIGINAL WOOD SIDING, THERE'S, UH, WOOD SIDING.

SO WOULD YOU, UM, IS YOUR INTENT TO REPAIR THAT AND REUSE IT OR TO KEEP IT? WELL, WE WERE THINKING ABOUT LIKE WE MO UM, WE PLACING THOSE EXISTING WOOD SIDING PROBABLY WITH THE NEW ONE AND TRYING TOBISH WHATEVER IT'S THERE.

UH, INSTEAD OF THOSE PLASTIC, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CALL THEM, WHATEVER, UH, VINYL THING THAT'S OVER THE WOOD.

RIGHT.

SO YOU, YOUR INTENTION IS TO REMOVE THAT, UH, BUT UNDERNEATH THAT IS STILL EXISTING WOOD SIDING THAT YOU WOULD THEN REPAIR? YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CAITLIN.

IN THE, IT LOOKS LIKE PAGE 15 OF THE PACKET, WHICH IS THE ORIGINAL WOOD SIDING THAT BECAUSE I SEE A SMALLER ONE AND THEN THERE'S SOME WIDER ONES.

UM, SURE.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE FOREGROUND OF THE PHOTO IS THE SHIPLAP THAT WOULD'VE EXISTED UNDERNEATH THE EXTERNAL, UH, OR EXTERIOR SIDING.

UM, IF

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YOU LOOK HERE TOWARD THE MIDDLE OF THE PHOTO, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE, UM, ONE 17 SIDING AND, UM, CHAIRWOMAN, MAY I OFFER A POINT OF CLARIFICATION? YES, PLEASE.

OKAY.

PART OF THE CHALLENGE THAT, UM, THIS CASE HAS FACED IS, UM, THE DRAWINGS NOT MATCHING THE SPOKEN INTENT.

SO IF YOU PLEASE NOTE HERE ON THE, UM, ELEVATIONS, THE WINDOWS ARE SHOWN AS REDUCED COMPARED TO WHAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? MY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HAD TO MAKE THE TRIP OUT TO FOR CLARIFICATION ON GUIDELINES? UM, STAFF HAS VISITED STAFF, UH, THE SITE TWICE.

THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS EMAILS AND CORRESPONDENCE ATTEMPTING TO CLARIFY WHAT IS NECESSARY.

UH, SINCE OCTOBER, AND I'M SURE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS, PROVIDED THEM ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO MEET AS CLOSE TO THE GUIDELINES AS POSSIBLE.

YES.

OKAY.

MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS CHRISTOPHER.

I HAD A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

THANK YOU.

UH, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT DID, DID STAFF OFFER AN OPINION REGARDING, UM, THE, UH, PROPOSED EDITION AND ANY ELEMENTS, UH, IN TERMS OF HOW IT ADJOINS THE EXISTING CONSTRUCTION AND, AND, AND, UH, THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPOSED, UH, EDITION? YEAH, SO THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION CAME THROUGH AS AN ADDITION, UH, WHICH WE DEEMED GENERALLY APPROPRIATE TO APPROVE AT A 10 DAY, UM, APPROVAL UNDER THE UDC.

CORRECT.

UM, HOWEVER, AS THE DRAWINGS CAME IN, THERE WERE CHANGES INDICATED THAT THEN BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR REVIEW.

UM, ONCE CTAB RULES OR MAKES A MOTION AND APPROVES, UM, WHATEVER IT IS YOU APPROVE, THAT WILL THEN DICTATE THE EXTERNAL CLADDING AND WINDOW CHOICE, ET CETERA OF THE ADDITION, WHICH WE THEN FEEL IS GENERALLY APPROPRIATE AT THAT POINT FOR 10 DAY APPROVAL.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATION? GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD, SIR.

CAITLIN, WOULD YOU MIND, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER, I GUESS, UH, EXAMPLES OF, OF THE STONE THEY'RE HOPING TO PUT BESIDES WHAT'S IN THE DRAWINGS OR SO THE STONE ALREADY EXISTS.

OKAY.

LET ME NAVIGATE TO A PHOTO FOR YOU.

YOU SEE HERE, UM, THIS WAS LIKELY SOME SORT OF MID-CENTURY.

THAT ONE'S THE FAKE ONE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

SO THE REQUEST PER THE DRAWINGS, AGAIN, WHAT'S VERBALLY EXPRESSED IS DIFFERENT FROM THE DRAWINGS, BUT THE DRAWINGS ARE, THE BINDING DOCUMENTS IS TO REMOVE THE ORIGINAL, UM, ONE 17 SIDING, WHICH INCLUDES THE VINYL AND THE FO STONE, UM, AND REPLACE WITH A SEMI UNSPECIFIED ENGINEERED WOOD PRODUCT.

UH, EXCUSE ME.

WHILE THESE ARE JUST IMAGES OF THE WINDOWS THAT THEY CURRENTLY EXIST, THERE'S THE WINDOW SPEC, UM, LP SMART SIDE WITH NO ADDITIONAL INDICATION INDICATING EXPOSURE OR ANY OF THOSE, UM, DETAILS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

HMM.

CA CAITLIN, UM, SO AFTER YOU VISITED WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, AND ALL OF THIS WAS COMMUNICATED, THE ARCHITECT STILL WANTED TO SUBMIT THESE PARTICULAR SPECS AND PLANS TO CTAP, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.

'CAUSE YOU, YOU'VE STATED TWICE THAT THE, WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED VERBALLY IS NOT WHAT'S, UH, INDICATED IN THE PLANS.

AND SO MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE THAT, UM, IT, WHERE WHERE DID THE DISCONNECT LIE? I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

SIR, CAN YOU OFFER CLARIFICATION THE QUESTION THAT WAS STATED, AND THE QUESTION WAS, WHERE WAS THE MISCOMMUNICATION ON THE REPEATED TIMES AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE HAD BETWEEN C UM, THE KATE STAFF, BETWEEN KAITLYN STAFF AND YOURSELF? SO THAT WAY YOU WOULD BE WITHIN GUIDELINES? WELL, UM, I GUESS THE, THE MISCOMMUNICATION, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION.

MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD.

UM, THE WHOLE, UM, PROCESS OF THE WAY, UM, THEY OPERATE THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS MM-HMM .

UM, WHEN, UM, I TALKED TO KAITLIN FOR THE FIRST TIME, I WAS INDICATED TO PROVIDE LIKE A, A, A, A, WHAT YOU CALL IT, LIKE A NOT A STEP PLAN, LIKE A, A SKETCH.

AND I REACH OUT TO, UH, TO MY

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ARCHITECT AND I SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO NEED THIS SKETCH TO AT LEAST HAVE AN IDEA WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE.

AND WHEN I MET WITH KAITLIN, I, I, UH, PURPOSELY AND, AND, AND, AND INDICATED ABOUT THE WINDOWS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I COULD NOT TOUCH THOSE WINDOWS.

AND I SAID, OKAY, I'M NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THOSE WINDOWS BESIDE WE REPAIR WHAT WE HAVE, HOWEVER, ON THE ADDITIONS ARE GONNA BE NEW WINDOWS.

SO, UM, AFTER THAT IT CAME BACK TO BE OKAY, WE HAVE TO SHOW LIKE A STRUCTURAL PLAN TYPE OF LIKE, UH, THE DRAINS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE AND THE ROOFTOP AND, AND THE SIDINGS.

AND THEN, UM, THERE WAS MORE THAT WAS COMING AND I WAS NOT EXPECTING ALL THAT.

I WAS JUST EXPECTING TO HAVE LIKE JUST AN IDEA ON THE PAPER OR THE SKETCH, WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, WHAT WE CAN TOUCH AND WHAT WE COULD NOT TOUCH.

HOWEVER, SIR, IT'S BEEN STATED SEVERAL TIMES THAT WHAT YOU'RE VERBALLY STATING IS NOT MATCHING THE SKETCH, THE ARCHITECTURAL SKETCH THAT YOU PROVIDED, WHICH IS THE LEGAL BINDING THAT YOU'LL HAVE ACTUALLY SIGNED, THAT YOU'RE GONNA COMPLY WITH, THAT YOU PROVIDED AND YOU HAVE NOT FOLLOWED THROUGH.

YOU CANNOT HOPE, YOU CANNOT ASSUME THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE MODIFICATIONS.

AND IT'S BEEN STATED SEVERAL TIMES THAT THAT SKETCH THAT YOU SUBMITTED IS BINDING.

YOU CAN SUBMIT AMENDMENTS WITH MODIFICATIONS, BUT YOU CANNOT DO THE WORK WITHOUT THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE DEPARTMENT.

THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD.

CORRECT.

YEAH, I UNDERSTOOD THAT PART.

THANK YOU.

THAT WAS THE ANSWER THAT WE WERE ASKING.

OKAY.

AND, AND MADAM CHAIR, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR EVERYONE HERE, UM, CAITLYN, CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT THAT FIRST WINDOW ON THE, ON THAT BAY THERE, ON THE LOWER DRAWING, THE RIGHT ELEVATION? SURE.

UM, SO YOU SEE HERE WHERE I'M KIND OF CIRCLING HERE ON THE SCREEN.

UM, I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE EXISTING OPENING CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S A PRETTY TYPICAL, UM, EACH SIDE HAS A DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE.

UM, BUT IT'S A PRETTY TYPICAL GANGED, UM, HISTORIC WINDOW CONFIGURATION AS YOU SEE HERE.

UM, SO HOW I MUST INTERPRET THIS AS STAFF IS, UM, THOUGH, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SAID WE INTEND TO REPAIR THE WINDOWS, THE DRAWINGS THAT I'VE BEEN RECEIVING FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS STILL INDICATE WHAT YOU SEE HERE WITH THE NOTATION THAT IT'S A ALUMINUM CLAD WINDOW REPLACEMENT.

YES.

GREAT, GREAT POINT.

SO THE KEYNOTE SAYS IT'S AN ALUMINUM CLAD WOOD BLOCK FRAME, HOWEVER, THE, UM, UM, SPECIFICATIONS WERE FOR, UH, VINYL WINDOWS WITH THE NAIL FIN.

AND SO IF TODAY'S, UM, ACTION INCLUDED STIPULATIONS THAT THEY FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, WE WOULD STILL REQUIRE THAT THESE DRAWINGS BE UPDATED TO MATCH THOSE SPECIFICATIONS IN ORDER TO RELEASE THE PERMITS.

ANY OTHER? THANKS FOR THE, THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

I THINK THAT ANSWERS A LOT.

ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS ONLINE? ARE WE READY TO MOVE FORWARD? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS EACH AND ALL OF THEM.

I SECOND IT.

THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

FLORES AYE.

GARCIA? AYE.

REGARD? AYE.

SETZER.

AYE.

FULLERTON? AYE.

P*****K.

AYE.

VASQUEZ? AYE.

AND AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NO, WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU.

YOU DIDN'T SAY THANK YOU.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE CA CASE NUMBER 2025 DASH 0 3 2 2 0 6 EAST SUMMIT AVENUE.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT A FOUR FOOT TALL FRONT YARD FENCE AND PEDESTRIAN GATES WITH MASONRY PILLARS, RIGHT IRON FENCING, AND A MASONRY KNEE HIGH WALL STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FRONT YARD FENCE.

CONSTRUCTION STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT RETAIN THE EXISTING FRONT YARD CONDITION.

THE APPLICANT MICHELLE CRUZ, IS HERE VIRTUALLY, AND THERE'S ONE LETTER AND ONE VOICEMAIL FOR COMMISSIONER REVIEW.

UM, BEFORE WE BEGIN, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO OFFER SOME CLARIFICATION, UM, ON OUR RECOMMENDATION.

UM, HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, THE MONA VISTA HISTORIC DISTRICT HAS NOT TYPICALLY

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HISTORICALLY FEATURED FRONT YARD FENCING, UM, AS NOTED IN THE FENCE POLICY DOCUMENT.

OKAY.

SO MS. CRUZ IS ONLINE, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE IN PERSON AS WELL.

UM, SO HOWEVER YOU WANNA SPLIT UP THE PRESENTATION, YOU CAN BOTH REPRESENT THE ITEM.

CAN, CAN I ACTUALLY GO FIRST? YES.

I DUNNO IF YOU CAN HEAR US.

NO, THIS WORKS.

I CAN, I CAN HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH.

OKAY.

WE CAN, BUT, UH, MR. RAS, HE'S GONNA COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND AND INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

OKAY? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

DO I NEED TO PUSH SOMETHING? JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

COOL.

YEAH.

HI EVERYBODY.

UH, MY NAME IS ROB BRAQUE.

I'M THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.

UM, MICHELLE IS OUR ARCHITECT.

SHE'S FAR MORE ELOQUENT THAN ME.

UH, SHE'S GONNA BE LEADING THIS WHOLE CHARGE.

I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF CONTEXT FOR OUR HOUSE.

UM, IN SHORT, WE LOVE MONTE VISTA, LIKE WE MOVED HERE FOR A REASON.

WE LOVE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

WE LOVE THAT EVERY HOUSE LOOKS, YOU KNOW, AS IT DOES.

UM, OUR GOAL, WE HAVE TWO THINGS.

ONE IS TO PRESERVE MONTE VISTA.

HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, HOW IT ACTUALLY LOOKS A BIG ONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY PARENTS IN THE ROOM, BUT, UM, MY SECOND GOAL IS TO PROTECT MY FAMILY.

SO WHEN YOU SEE THIS PRESENTATION THAT SHE'S GONNA GO THROUGH, I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WHILE THERE ARE, LIKE IN MONTE VISTA, THERE'S NOT A TON OF FENCES, OR IT MAY NOT BE THE DEFAULT.

UM, THERE ARE IN FACT A LOT OF FENCES AND A LOT OF THEM ARE IN FACT ON, UH, MCCULLOUGH AND THESE BUSY STREETS THAT YOU SEE WHERE LIKE, WE HAVE A 3-YEAR-OLD, WE HAVE AN EIGHT MONTH OLD.

UM, COLA IS VERY BUSY.

WE'RE ON A CORNER WITH BUS STOPS.

WE'RE ON A CORNER WITH IT'S, IT'S SO BUSY.

SO I'M GONNA LET MICHELLE TALK.

I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND LIKE, WE LOVE THIS DISTRICT.

WE WANT IT TO MAINTAIN THAT FEEL.

WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, BUT WE ALSO REALLY WANNA PROTECT OUR FAMILY, AND THAT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU ROB.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

MY NAME IS MICHELLE CRUZ AND I'M THE ARCHITECT HELPING THE RASC FAMILY WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE PROPOSING A FOUR FOOT, UM, FRONT INSIDE YARD FENCE IN THE MONTE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD DUE TO ONGOING SAFETY CONCERNS.

AND THIS IS, UM, I'M HERE JUST TO PRESENT SOME OF THE UNIQUE SITUATIONS OF THIS PARTICULAR LOT IN MONTE VISTA HERE IN THIS SLIDE, WE'RE JUST SHOWING THE LOCATION OF WHERE THEY ARE IN MONTE VISTA.

THEY'RE ON THE CORNER OF MCCULLOUGH AND SUMMIT ON A TRIANGLE SHAPED LOT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

HERE WE ARE INDICATING, UM, HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON THIS CORNER.

SO YOU CAN SEE IN YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED THE, UM, THE PROPERTY OUTLINE ON THE TRIANGLE SHAPED LOT.

THERE'S A STOPLIGHT.

IT IS LOCATED ON A SECONDARY AVENUE, WHICH MEANS THAT TRAFFIC IS SLIGHTLY FASTER THAN IT WOULD BE, UM, WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE INTO AND OUT OF DOWNTOWN.

IT HAS BIKE LANES, A BUS LANE, AND THERE'S A BUS STOP LOCATED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'VE BEEN KNOWN TO HAVE PEOPLE SITTING ON THEIR PORCH WAITING FOR A BUS.

UM, AND SO THIS MAKES IT A VERY PUBLIC STREET FRONT FOR THEM.

AND REALLY NO, UH, NO, NO, WHAT I WANNA SAY, LIKE A SEMI-PUBLIC SPACE FOR THEM.

IT GOES FROM PUBLIC TO PRIVATE PRETTY IMMEDIATELY.

NEXT SLIDE HERE, I'M SHOWING THAT COMING FROM DOWNTOWN, UM, THEY GET, IT IS ON A DOWNHILL SLOPE.

SO THAT STOPLIGHT IS AT THE BOTTOM OF A HILL.

SO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING UP AND THEY GET TO THE TOP OF THAT HILL AND THEY DON'T REALIZE THERE'S A STOPLIGHT, THEY'RE SLAMMING ON THE BRAKES ON AN ALREADY SLIGHTLY FASTER THAN NORMAL STREETS.

AND, AND THEN ON A DOWNHILL HILL SLOPE, PEOPLE ARE USUALLY SPEEDING PRETTY QUICKLY DOWN HERE AND YOU CAN SEE THE BUS STOP RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.

NEXT SLIDE HERE, I'M JUST SHOWING THE OPPOSITE, UM, VIEW.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT SLOPE DOWNHILL IS PRETTY STEEP.

AND AGAIN, THAT BUS STOP IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.

NEXT SLIDE HERE, I'M SHOWING THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FACES DIRECTLY ONTO MCCULLOUGH, AND THEN THAT MIDDLE IMAGE IS THE FRONT PORCH.

AND YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE THAT FRONT PORCH REALLY IS TO MCCULLOUGH.

AND I KNOW, LIKE ROB SAID, SELF AND WITH YOUNG CHILDREN, I'M LEAVING THE HOUSE WITH ALL MY THINGS.

I GOT THE DIAPER BAG AND THE FOOD AND EXTRA CHANGE OF CLOTHES, AND THEN ALL OF OF CLOTHES AND THEN ALL OF MY STUFF AND TRYING TO GET MY KIDDOS TO THE CAR.

YOU KNOW, YOU TURN AROUND FOR A SECOND TO LOCK THE DOOR AND YOU KNOW, MY KID'S CHASING A BALL AND I WOULD BE VERY NERVOUS NOT HAVING ANYTHING TO STOP THE BALL OR MY CHILD FROM RUNNING INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC.

BUT NOT ONLY THAT, THE, THE HOUSE THAT THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT FACES SUMMIT IS WHERE THEIR CARPORT

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IS.

SO THEY'RE LEAVING THE FRONT DOOR AND HAVING TO GO AROUND THE CORNER TO LOAD AND UNLOAD THEIR KIDS INTO THE VEHICLE ON A VERY BUSY CORNER.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

IN THIS SLIDE WE'RE JUST SHOWING THE INSPIRATION OF OTHER FENCES, UM, WITHIN THE MONTE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE AT THAT FOUR FOOT HIGH AND IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSES.

NEXT SLIDE.

HERE WE'RE SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THEIR HOUSE AGAIN.

AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE FOUR FOOT FENCES WITHIN THEIR HOUSE.

AND AGAIN, WE ARE NOT WITHIN THE SMALLER PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THERE IS NO SEMI-PRIVATE SPACE LIKE YOU WOULD GET WHEN YOU ARE ON THE SMALLER STREETS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WITH, UM, FENCES ALONG THE MCCULLOUGH STREET FRONT.

UM, JUST LIKE WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING.

NEXT SLIDE HERE, I'M SHOWING YOU MY TECHNICAL DRAWINGS.

UM, THE BLUE LINE, WHICH MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE IS WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING THAT FOUR FOOT FENCE.

IT'S JUST ALONG THE MCCULLOUGH AND THE SUMMIT SIDE.

AND THEN WE'RE SHOWING AN ELEVATION OF HOW THAT MAY LOOK WITH THE RAW IRON AND THE STONE, UM, PILLARS AND A LITTLE STONE WALL.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE MCCULLOUGH FACING SIDE OF THE STREETS.

AND SO I'M JUST SHOWING HERE THE ELEVATION OF THE FENCE AND HOW IT WOULD STEP DOWN ALONG WITH THAT SLOPE.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN IN THIS ONE, WE WANNA INDICATE THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY, UM, NEW MATERIALS.

THESE ARE ALL MATERIALS THAT ALREADY EXIST WITHIN, WITHIN THEIR, THEIR HOUSE EVEN.

SO THE STONE COMING, UM, INSPIRED FROM THE FIREPLACE.

AND THEN YOU SEE HERE THE RAW IRON AND THE STONE, UM, IS ANOTHER FENCE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I JUST WANNA INDICATE HERE, I I, I WANNA ARGUE THAT HAVING THAT SEMI-PUBLIC SPACE MAY ACTUALLY ALLOW THEM TO ENGAGE WITH THEIR FRONT YARD AGAIN AND THEIR FRONT PORCH AGAIN.

UM, IT'LL GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL THE SAFETY AND, AND JUST THAT WELCOMING NATURE THAT YOU WANNA GET WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING A HOME.

UM, AND IT, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT IN A, IN A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S WHY WE LIVE IN HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS IS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT FRONT PORCH LIFE AND SAY HI TO OUR NEIGHBORS.

AND RIGHT NOW, IT, IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE BIT UNUSABLE.

UM, AND I ALSO JUST WANNA SAY THAT I AM A PRESERVATIONIST AND I WOULD NOT BE HERE JEOPARDIZING MY, UM, MY REPUTATION WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND WITH OHP IF I DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS TRULY A UNIQUE SITUATION WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS OR RECORDINGS? UM, WE DO HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL.

UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND PLAY THAT NOW.

HELLO, THIS IS MICHAEL BLIN.

IT'S B-I-E-C-H-L-I-N.

MY ADDRESS IS 1 42 EAST SUMMIT AVENUE IN SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 1 2.

I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR TOMORROW, TOMORROW BEING FRIDAY.

UM, AND THIS IS WITH REGARD TO 2 0 6 EAST SUMMIT AVENUE.

UH, ONE THING REAL QUICKLY, I HAVE, UH, WORKED AS A LANDSCAPE DESIGNER AND CONTRACTOR FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS AND I HAVE WORKED ON, UH, ON A NUMBER OF HISTORICAL HOMES AND HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS TWO THINGS REGARDING THIS REQUEST BY, UH, THE, THE FOLKS AT 2 0 6 E SUMMIT.

ONE OF THEM IS CONSISTENCY AND THE OTHER IS SAFETY.

FIRST WITH REGARD CONSISTENCY, I, UH, SPEND QUITE A LOT OF TIME WALKING THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE REQUESTING THE FENCE AND UM, I HAVE SEEN THE COPIES OF THE PLAN AND THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS OF WHAT THEY HOPE TO DO.

AND I CANNOT IMAGINE ANY FENCE THAT WOULD BE MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE ARE QUITE A FEW EXAMPLES OF FENCES AND WALLS THAT ARE, IF NOT EXACTLY LIKE, EXTREMELY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE RAS ARE REQUESTING.

UH, THAT BEING STONE, A STONE BASE ON, I'M SURE A CONCRETE FOOTER WITH A WROUGHT IRON TOP.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT IS OVER ANY HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS ARE CERTAINLY

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OUT OF CHARACTER WITH WHAT I SEE THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU DO NEED TO GO MORE THAN A BLOCK OR EVEN LESS THAN A BLOCK FROM THE RA'S HOUSE TO SEE EXAMPLES OF WALLS AND FENCES THAT ARE VIRTUALLY IDENT.

SO WE HAD TO CUT IT AT TWO MINUTES, BUT IT DID CONTINUE IN SUPPORT.

OKAY.

I'LL NOW OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS.

I'LL START TO MY LEFT CLARIFICATIONS, DISCUSSIONS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY AT THIS TIME.

NONE.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I DO.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

AHEAD.

OKAY.

UM, YOU WERE SAYING THAT THERE IS ONLY THE ONE EXIT OUT OF THE HOUSE TO GET AROUND TO THE GARAGE.

IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE I SEE A, A GATE IN THAT PRIVACY FENCE.

MM-HMM.

UH, BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE CARPORT, IS THERE AN A AN ACCESS POINT THERE FROM THE HOUSE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ONLY GO THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR TO GET AROUND TO THE CAR? I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE A BACK ACCESS, UM, THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO USE, BUT I THINK THAT PRIMARILY THE FRONT DOOR IS THE ONE USED.

YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE EASIEST WAY TO GET IN IS THOSE WIDER STAIRS TO GET TO OUR FRONT DOOR.

THE OTHER OPTION IS TO GO THROUGH THAT BACK DOOR AND THEN GO THROUGH ESSENTIALLY LIKE OUR BEDROOM.

AND IT GETS KIND OF WEIRD.

IT'S NOT LIKE AN ENTRANCE, IT'S THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.

SO THIS HOUSE, THE OTHER PART OF THIS WHOLE THING AND WHY IT'S SUCH A WEIRD LOT AND IT'S A 2 0 6 EAST SUMMIT ADDRESS, BUT WE'VE LITERALLY JUST FACED MCCULLOUGH IS THIS HOUSE WAS ORIGINALLY ON TRINITY, THE, THE UNIVERSITY AND IT WAS PICKED UP AND MOVED LIKE 30 YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S A VERY WEIRD SITUATION WHERE YOUR FRONT DOOR IS NOT EVEN ON YOUR ADDRESS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

YEP.

YEAH.

MS. CRUZ, UM, DID YOU VISIT AND RUN ALL THIS BY, UM, MONTE VISTA'S ARCHITECTURAL? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR PROCESS UP TO NOW? NO, I DID NOT REALIZE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO END UP IN CTA AT ALL.

I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE IN A PRETTY EASY ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.

AND SO WE SUBMITTED, UM, DIRECTLY TO OHP AND NOW WE'RE HERE.

AND, UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UM, THE SIX FOOT SOLID SCREEN FENCE ALONG MCCULLOUGH, UH, IF, IF A PROPERTY OWNER WITH THIS KIND OF A LOT ASKED TO EXTEND THAT SOLID SCREEN FENCE ALONG MCCULLOUGH MOVING NORTH, HOW WOULD THAT GET, WOULD THAT BE ALLOWED UNDER CODE AT THIS POINT? I, SO AS MENTIONED, THE, THE ORIENTATION OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE SHAPE OF THE LOT IS, IS ADDING SOME COMPLEXITY, UM, BUT IS STAFF'S POSITION THAT WHERE THE EXISTING SIX FOOT TALL WOOD FENCE IS, UM, THE, THE POSITION OF THAT IS APPROPRIATE.

AND SO, UM, IF THE COMMISSION WERE TO MAKE A, AN, UH, A STIPULATION FOR APPROVAL TODAY WITH, UM, THE INSTALLATION OF A SIX FOOT TALL FENCE, UM, INDICATED IN THAT STIPULATION, THEN THAT COULD BE ONE OPTION MOVING FORWARD.

UH, BUT UH, ANYTHING THAT IS RELATED TO THIS CURRENT REQUEST, UM, I'M SORRY, THE, THE RELATED REQUEST RIGHT NOW IS FOR A FOUR FOOT TALL FRONT YARD FENCE AND GIVEN WHERE THEY'VE INDICATED, UH, STAFF WOULD AGREE IT WOULD BE A FRONT YARD FENCE.

YEAH, I WAS, I, YEAH, I'M NOT SUGGESTING, I JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE CODE WOULD SAY TO THAT GIVEN THIS ARTERIAL HERE MCCULLOUGH.

THE, UM, WELL, AND I'LL, I'LL ADD A MORE COMPLEX ANSWER, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S SORT OF TWO LAYERS HERE.

SO IF THIS WASN'T IN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THEY WERE JUST REQUESTING A FENCE PERMIT FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOOKS AT WHAT THE FRONT IS BASED ON THE ADDRESSING.

AND SO I THINK TECHNICALLY YES, THE MCCULLOUGH SIDE WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SIDE YARD AND SO POTENTIALLY COULD BE PRIVATE.

UM, BUT BECAUSE OF THE ADDED LAYER OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, AND THERE'S, THERE'S POLICY THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED TO THIS EFFECT, BUT THAT THE, UM, PRIVACY FENCES DO NOT SCREEN, UM, LIKE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

AND SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER LAYER TO CONSIDER.

UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT DSD WOULD CONSIDER THIS A SIDE YARD PER THE UDC.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

THANKS.

UM, DID WE HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AT ALL? YES.

UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SENT A LETTER, UM, THAT'S IN YOUR PACKETS.

UM, UH, AND THEY'RE OPPOSING THE, UM, THE REQUEST THAT'S PRESENTED WELL.

UM, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE GROUP, UM, THAT

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THE APPLICANT, UH, VISIT WITH MONTE VISTA, WITH THEIR ARCHITECT TO DISCUSS, UM, I DO THINK IT MEETS THE UNIQUE, UM, EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE THRESHOLD.

I MEAN, IT'S MY THRESHOLD, IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL THRESHOLD, BUT IN MY OPINION, UM, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS CORNER AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS CORNER IS UN NONTRADITIONAL.

SO, UH, BUT GIVEN THAT THE STEP WASN'T TAKEN TO VISIT WITH MONTE VISTA AND AT LEAST EXPLORE PLANS, I KNOW WHY THE CITY STAFF'S RE IS, IS NOT RECOMMENDING IN FAVOR.

UH, BUT I JUST THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP FOR CONSIDERATION AND IF NOT TO BELABOR THIS, UH, ITEM, BUT IF THE APPLICANT'S WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION A, C, C AND SEE WHAT KINDS OF, SEE IF ANY, UH, UH, RESOLUTION CAN BE BROUGHT FORTH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTH THE TIME TO DELAY THIS OR AT LEAST CONTINUE THIS ITEM.

BUT I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO WHATEVER MY COLLEAGUES OR STAFF THINK ABOUT THAT AND THE APPLICANT TOO, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO END, END WITH THEIR ARCHITECT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? CAN BRIAN, CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE IMAGE RIGHT NOW TO WHERE THE ACTUAL SIX FOOT FENCE IS FURTHER DOWN? 'CAUSE FOR SOME REASON IT'S NOT COMING UP ON MINE, OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T BE BOTHERING YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AT THE MOMENT I'D LIKE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSIONS WITHIN THE THE COMMISSION.

GO AHEAD MA'AM.

? YES, UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UM, SAY THAT I TOO AM FAMILIAR WITH THIS CORNER.

UM, I DRIVE BY THAT ALL THE TIME.

I USED TO WORK IN MONTE VISTA, UM, AND I MIGHT EVEN HAVE SEEN IT RIGHT AFTER THE HOUSE GOT MOVED THERE.

UM, I DROVE DOWN THIS STREET YESTERDAY AND, UM, THERE ARE, AT LEAST ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE IS THE PRECEDENT FOR FENCING.

AND I THINK THAT A CASE CAN BE MADE THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE AND THE TYPE OF FENCE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING SEEMS TO BE APPROPRIATE.

UM, SO I WOULD SAY, UM, IF THAT SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOLLOWED THAT THE APPLICANT MEET WITH MONTE VISTA TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND POTENTIALLY THEIR APPROVAL BECAUSE I THINK IN THE END THEIR OPINION COUNTS A LOT, UM, THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER APPROVING.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM CHAIR? GO AHEAD SIR.

THE QUESTION FOR STAFF, UH, CORY OR BRIAN, IF WE WERE TO DO A CONTINUANCE, WOULD THAT ALLOW THEM TIME TO MEET WITH, UH, HIS, UH, HISTORIC MONTE VISTA HISTORIC? SURE.

SO IF THE, IF THE COMMISSION WERE TO VOTE FOR A CONTINUANCE, UH, TO THE NEXT CT, A MEETING, UM, STAFF CAN WORK WITH, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT TO, UM, TO THEN DISCUSS THE PROJECT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP? SURE.

BECAUSE THERE'S AGAIN, THE PRECEDENT AND THEN, UM, OF COURSE THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS AND, UH, LIKE, UH, MY COLLEAGUE HERE, I, I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THERE, SO I KNOW THAT CORNER VERY WELL.

UM, AND IT'S THE BUSY ONE AND IF YOU WANT KIDS, IT'S PLAYING OUTSIDE AND IT, IT NEEDS SOME KIND OF PERIMETER FENCING.

BUT, UM, I'D, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO VISIT WITH THE ASSOCIATION, UH, WORK WITH THEM ON DESIGN BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS THAT I DO SEE THAT MAKE IT A LITTLE TOO, UH, MODERN FOR THE, FOR THAT CORNER.

UM, THERE'S SOME GREAT EXAMPLES.

I THINK THE ONE RIGHT THERE THAT THAT'S PICTURED, UH, JASON WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR.

I THINK, UH, I, I HEAR, I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, SO I THINK A CONTINUANCE WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE THAT WAY WE CAN ONE, MOVE FORWARD, TWO, NOT DENY IT, AND TWO, GIVE THE STAFF MAYBE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GUIDE THEM THROUGH THE CORRECT PROCEDURE.

AND AGAIN, MS. CRUZ, SHE DID A WONDERFUL JOB IN PROVIDING THE DESIGN, HOWEVER, THAT ONE STEP THAT'S OUR CONCERN IS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME, PLEASE, MADAM CHAIR.

CAN I MAKE

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ONE MORE COMMENT? ABSOLUTELY, GO AHEAD.

UH, AND THEN BRIAN, I KNOW THIS IS A, A MINOR DETAIL, BUT MINOR DETAILS ARE WHAT MAKE UP OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS, BUT IS THERE ANY PRECEDENT FOR HAVING THE MAILBOX WITHIN A, A POST LIKE THAT? UH, LIKE THE ENTRY POST? UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF.

THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S IN MORE MODERN STYLE HOMES, GATED COMMUNITIES.

I THINK IT'S PROBABLY LIKE THAT BECAUSE OF THE RELOCATION OF THE HOUSE AND THE ADDRESS FOR SUMMIT, IT'S GOTTA BE FACING SUMMIT.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION 'CAUSE IT WAS MOVED EVEN IF IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO FOR SOME REASON YOU WERE FORTUNATE 'CAUSE A LOT OF US ACTUALLY DROVE BY THAT AREA.

SO I JUST THINK AT THIS POINT WE WITHOUT DENYING THEM.

MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS CASE.

UH, UNTIL NEXT, UNTIL NEXT MONTH.

UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE DATE? ONE SECOND.

UM, MARCH 21ST.

FINE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS CASE UNTIL MARCH 21ST TO ALLOW THE RAS, IS IT RASKIN? SORRY.

UH, THE RASKINS TO WORK WITH MONTE VISTA ASSOCIATION.

UM, AND UH, REVISIT SOME OF THE THINGS, EXPLORE SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

AND UM, MADAM CHAIR, CAN I MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? YES, MA I JUST WANNA ECHO WHAT THE CHAIRWOMAN SAID TO INCLUDE IN YOUR OR IN YOUR MOTION AND STAFF FOR STAFF TO GUIDE THAT DISCUSSION.

OF COURSE.

INCLUDING, UH, WORKING WITH STAFF ON THAT TOO.

OKAY.

SO LET'S CLARIFY THE, THE MOTION SO THAT WAY WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

YEAH, IT'S A, A CONTINUANCE TO THE NEXT CT, A MEETING IN MARCH, UM, TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE APPLICANT AND THEIR DESIGNER TO MEET WITH THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION.

AND THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE DESIGN TO MAKE IT MORE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION.

WONDERFUL.

THERE'S CURRENTLY A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

I THIS I'D LIKE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE FLO.

AYE.

GARCIA AYE.

REGARD? AYE.

SETZER.

AYE.

FULLERTON.

AYE.

P*****K.

AYE.

VASQUEZ.

AYE.

AND VEDA AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND PLEASE DEFINITELY WORK WITH THE STAFF.

I KNOW BLOOD, JUST BLOOD WITH QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS HAPPY AND IN COMPLIANCE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND BRIAN CAN PROVIDE THAT CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE ASSOCIATION IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT ALREADY.

BRIAN'S GONNA START READING THE NEXT CASE INTO THE RECORD.

UM, WE HAVE ONE, UH, PERSON WHO'S HERE WHO'S A LITTLE HARD OF HEARING.

AND SO FOR THIS CASE, I JUST ASK THAT EVERYBODY SPEAK CLEARLY AND TO THE MICROPHONE SO THAT THE AUDIO COMES THROUGH.

OKAY.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR CTAP CASE NUMBER 2025 DASH 0 27 2 10 HERMINE BOULEVARD.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO ONE, INCREASE THE WIDTH OF AN EXISTING APRON DRIVEWAY.

TWO, INSTALL A NEW FRONT YARD CONCRETE DRIVEWAY, APRON APPROXIMATELY 18, UH, FEET, FIVE INCHES WIDE AND TAPERS TO 15 FEET EIGHT INCHES WIDE.

THREE, INSTALL A 15 FOOT BY EIGHT INCH WIDE BY 48 FEET LONG.

UH, GRAVEL DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT YARD.

ITEM ONE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST TO INCREASE THE WIDTH THAT THE EXISTING CONCRETE APRON BASED ON THE FINDINGS, STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEMS TWO AND THREE.

BASED ON FINDINGS, A THROUGH D STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT REMOVE THE NEW CURB CUT AND DRIVEWAY AND INSTALLED LANDSCAPING BASED ON GUIDELINES.

THE APPLICANT YOLANDA JIMENEZ IS HERE IN PERSON.

THERE ARE 22 LETTERS, A DOCUMENT WITH 51 SIGNATURES IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND SEVEN VOICEMAILS FOR COMMISSION REVIEW.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.

UM, YOLANDA, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND WALK THE COMMISSIONERS TO YOUR REQUEST AND I'LL SHOW YOUR UH, PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

UM, THERE'S ALSO 51 PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED IN THE ALMOST PART TERRACE THAT SIGNED.

AND I, WHAT I DID IS, UM, LET ME SHOW YOU THIS ONE SECOND.

SHE REALLY CAN'T HEAR, SWEETIE.

EVERYBODY'S 51 PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED YES.

51 PEOPLE IN THE ELMOS PARK TERRACE HAVE SIGNED, UM, TO APPROVE.

I WALKED AROUND, I DID SHOW THEM A COPY OF THIS, OF THAT I DID VIOLATE THE SITUATION AND THAT I DID EXTEND THE DRIVEWAY.

I DID LET THEM KNOW IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I WAS HIDING.

UM,

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I HAVE LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR, UH, MANY YEARS.

I'VE LIVED, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE NEXT SLIDE.

IF YOU COULD SHOW THE NEXT SLIDE, I'M SORRY.

UM, SO I COME BEFORE YOU GUYS TO ASK THAT.

UM, I KEEP THE, THE APRON DRIVEWAY.

UM, I HAVE LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

I'VE LIVED IN ALMOST PARK TERRACE SINCE 2011, AND I'VE LIVED ON THE OTHER STREET, WHICH WAS THE RAIN.

AND I'VE HAD MANY FLOODING ISSUES AND FOUNDATION ISSUES IN THE PAST, AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THIS.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT I HAVE PROVEN MY DEDICATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'VE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN FOR MY PREVIOUS HOME AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE MY HOME.

IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

SO THIS RIGHT THERE, IF YOU COULD SEE, THE SECOND HOUSE IS MY HOUSE.

AND IF YOU SEE THE, THE STORM WATER RUNOFF, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

SO YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE HOUSE DOES NOT FLOOD BECAUSE THE, THE STORM WATER RUN, UH, RUNOFF IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE, THE SECOND HOME.

BUT WHEN I MOVED INTO THE HOUSE, IT HAD SERIOUS FOUNDATION ISSUES AND I HAD TO HAVE THE HOUSE.

UM, I HAD AN ESTIMATE AND THEN I HAD, UM, HAD TO, HAD TO REDO THE FOUNDATION IN THIS HOME.

SO YOU WOULD THINK THAT BEING SO CLOSE TO THE WATER RUNOFF THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THAT PROBLEM, BUT I DID.

AND, UM, I WAS CONCERNED.

I FIXED THE FOUNDATION, IT COST ME A LOT OF MONEY.

AND EVEN AFTER I FIXED THE FOUNDATION, THEN, UH, PROBABLY TWO YEARS AFTER FIXING THE FOUNDATION, I WAS HAVING THE SAME ISSUE AGAIN.

CRACKS ON THE WALLS AND ON THE OUTER PART OF THE HOUSE.

SO I CONTACTED CITY COUNCIL WOMAN.

UH, AT THAT TIME IT WAS AND I'VE CONTACTED THREE DIFFERENT, UH, COUNCIL PEOPLE IN THE PAST REQUESTING FOR HELP.

AND, UM, THEY JUST KEPT TELLING ME THAT THE ROAD WAS GONNA GET FIXED AND IT WOULD BE EVENTUALLY FIXED, AND IT JUST KEPT BEING PASSED ON.

FINALLY THIS PAST YEAR, UH, CITY COUNCILWOMAN, UH, IN DISTRICT ONE WAS ABLE TO HELP.

AND THEY ACTUALLY HAD SOMEBODY WORK ON THE STREET.

THESE ARE ENGINEERS, THEY FIXED IT, BUT IT WASN'T FIXED PROPERLY.

THEY HAD TO COME BACK THREE MORE TIMES BECAUSE THE WATER WAS RUNNING INTO MY HOUSE, DEPOSITING UNDER THE HOUSE AND STAYING THERE FOR, FOR A LONG TIME.

AND I COULD EVEN SMELL MOLD.

SO I CONTACTED THE CITY COUNCILWOMAN.

THERE'S MULTIPLE EMAILS YOU COULD LOOK.

I SPOKE TO MULTIPLE ENGINEERS AND IT, IF I'M HAVING THE PROBLEM, YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE OTHER HOUSES FURTHER DOWN.

SO THEY WERE ALSO HAVING BIG ISSUES.

I TOOK PICTURES, THERE WAS PUDDLES OF WATER.

I PULLED THE WATER WHERE YOU COULDN'T WALK THROUGH THE STREET.

IT WAS PRETTY BAD.

AND ONE OF THEM IS AN ELDERLY MAN THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND, UH, TO WALK OUT AND WALK HIS DOG.

IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY UNFORTUNATE.

AND, UM, THEY CAME AND FIXED IT.

THEN THEY CAME BACK AND FIXED IT AGAIN.

IT TOOK THREE TIMES BEFORE THEY FINALLY GOT IT RIGHT ON THE FOLLOWING PICTURE.

YOU COULD SEE WHAT THEY DID.

UM, WHAT THEY DID IS THEY DID A SIDEWALK AND THEY SLANTED THE SIDEWALK INTO THE STREET TO MAKE THE WATER RUN BACK INTO THE WATER RUNOFF.

THE DRIVEWAY WAS ALSO EXTENDED AND THE COBBLESTONES WERE LIFTED TO ALLOW THE WATER TO BE FLUSHED OUT.

AND THEY ONLY DID THIS, UNFORTUNATELY TO MY HOUSE THAT THEY DID AN ACTUAL SIDEWALK.

I WISH THEY WOULD'VE DONE IT FOR THE OTHER NEIGHBORS AND THE SAME THING BECAUSE THEY WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE THE SAME ISSUE.

SO JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S AN ENGINEER, UNFORTUNATELY IT IS VERY TIME CONSUMING.

SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T GET THINGS WRONG.

SO I WAS REALLY CONCERNED.

IT TOOK ME 14 YEARS TO FINALLY GET THEM TO WORK ON THIS HOUSE.

AND, UM, WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR ANOTHER HOUSE RECENTLY, MY, UH, REALTOR KEPT POINTING OUT THE HOUSE ON TWO 10, HER MINE.

AND I LOOKED AT THE HOUSE, I SAW THAT IT HAD A LOT OF ISSUES.

IT, UM, IT HAD HAD RENTERS FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, SO I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

AND I DID LOOK AT THE FOUNDATION AND I KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE FOUNDATION ISSUES BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA HAVE SERIOUS FOUNDATION ISSUES.

AND SURE ENOUGH, WHEN I GOT THE, UH, THE INSPECTION, THEY DID LET ME KNOW THAT IT DID HAVE FOUNDATION ISSUES.

IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO IT DOES HAVE FOUNDATION ISSUES.

AS YOU COULD SEE, THIS IS THE ESTIMATE TO FIX THE FOUNDATION

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IN THE PAST 14 YEARS.

I AM A SCHOOL TEACHER.

I AM NOT AN ENGINEER.

I'VE HAD TO LEARN ABOUT WATER AND WHERE WATER GOES AND WHY, WHERE DOES, WHERE DOES IT FLOW? SO WHEN IT RAINS, I GO OUT THERE, I TAKE PICTURES, I VIDEOTAPE, I MEASURE.

AND THAT'S HOW I WAS ABLE TO FINALLY TALK TO SOMEBODY AND TALK TO THE ENGINEERS FROM THE CITY TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE WAS ISSUES.

SO ONCE AGAIN, I FIND MYSELF GOING OUT THERE MEASURING AND, UM, GETTING RAIN BOOTS AND FIGURING OUT WHAT, WHERE, WHERE THE WATER'S COMING FROM.

SO WHEN I FIRST MOVED IN THE FOLLOWING WEEK, I WALKED OUTSIDE AND THE HOUSE WAS FLOODED IN WITH WATER OUTSIDE THE SAME SITUATION, WATER, UH, COMING IN FROM THE BACK.

AND I WAS REALLY CONCERNED, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, UM, THERE WAS PULLING OF WATER IN THE SIDE OF THE HOUSES.

UM, THE WATER WAS COMING FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS FROM, UH, THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT AND THEN ALSO FROM THE FRONT.

SO THE FRONT HAD BEEN ELEVATED, SO THERE WAS TOO MUCH DIRT AND WATER WAS COMING IN.

AND UM, SO I WAS, I I TRIED TO LOOK AROUND, TOOK PICTURES, UM, CALLED PEOPLE THAT I KNEW TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WHAT COULD BE DONE.

SO THIS IS A SITUATION THAT THERE'S MORE CONCERN HERE THAN MY PREVIOUS HOUSE BECAUSE IN MY PREVIOUS HOUSE, THE, THE, THE WATER THAT WAS IN THE BACK, I COULD REROUTE TO THE ALLEY BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ALLEY.

SO I WENT OUT THERE WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND WE TRIED TO ROUTE THE WATER TO THE ALLEY.

AND WHAT HAPPENED, IT WENT INTO HER MEAN.

AND IT, IT DAMAGED SOME STUFF FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

SO WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING, WE ALL GOT TOGETHER, WENT INTO THE ALLEY, DUG SOME OF THE DIRT, AND WAS ABLE, WERE ABLE TO REROUTE SOME OF THE WATER TO MCCULLOUGH.

THIS HOUSE DOES NOT HAVE AN ALLEY.

IT WAS TAKEN OVER BY THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ON THE BACK.

SO I CAN ASK YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? I MEAN, LIFT MY HOUSE AND DROWN THE NEIGHBORS ON THE SIDE, OR MOVE THE WATER TO THE BACK AND DROWN THE PEOPLE TO THE BACK.

IF I ASK YOU WHAT IS THE BEST OPTION, I KNOW WHAT YOU PROBABLY WOULD SAY, I WOULD'VE GOTTEN PROBABLY A PERMIT AND CHECKED.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT BASED ON MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, HAVING THAT DRIVEWAY WAS REALLY ESSENTIAL.

'CAUSE IT ROUTED THE WATER TO THE DIRECTION WHERE I NEEDED IT ROUTED.

I DIDN'T WANNA HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

WE WERE PLAYING THAT GAME FOR A WHILE WHERE WE WOULD LIFT OUR PROPERTY AND THEN THE OTHER NEIGHBOR GOT DROWNED AND THAT WAS NOT RIGHT.

SO WE NEEDED TO GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE HOME INSPECTION INFORMATION THAT THEY PROVIDED.

AS YOU COULD SEE, THERE IS ISSUES, UH, TO THE FOUNDATION AND THE STRUCTURE AND THE PURE BEAMS HAVE BEEN SHIFTED.

THIS HOUSE WAS UNOCCUPIED FOR SIX MONTHS.

BEFORE THAT IT WAS JUST RENTERS.

I'M A HOMEOWNER THAT CARES FOR MY PROPERTY AND WANTS IT STANDING FOR MUCH MORE YEARS TO COME.

SO YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO PICTURES, MORE PICTURES.

AND IF YOU COULD SEE, THIS IS WHERE IT'S LANING.

UH, THEY HAD BUILT A SIDEWALK AROUND THE BACK, I GUESS TO HOLD THE WATER OFF.

AND NOW THE, THE SIDEWALKS ARE SLOPING IN AND I TOOK MEASUREMENTS OF EVERYTHING AND YOU COULD SEE THE, THE SIDEWALK AND EVERYTHING'S LEANING TOWARDS THE HOUSE.

SAME HERE IS IN THE FRONT.

IT'S IN THE FRONT, IT'S IN THE BACK.

IT'S, IT'S EVERYWHERE.

SO IT'S ON THE TWO SIDES.

SO IT IS DROWNING IN A BUNCH, A POOL OF WATER.

UM, HERE I WANTED YOU GUYS TO SEE, BECAUSE THIS IS, UM, THIS IS, UH, HOWARD AND THEN HERMINE.

AND THIS IS WHERE THE WATER RUNOFFS ARE.

SO IT'S A STORM WATER RUNOFFS.

IF THE WATER IS ABLE TO BE FUNNELED OUT, THIS IS THE CLOSEST PLACE, WHICH IS NOT TOO FAR.

AND IT'S ESSENTIAL AND IT'S PERFECT FOR WHAT CAN BE DONE.

IN THE PAST, I'VE DONE DIFFERENT THINGS AT THE HOUSE AT ON THE RAIN, I'VE, I'VE DONE THE DRY CREEK AND, UH, FRENCH DRAINS.

WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN, BUT THIS AREA, AS YOU WELL KNOW IT IS IT FLOODS.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS HA THE MORE THAT WE CAN DO, THE BETTER.

AND THIS PAST TIME THAT IT RAINED, I WAS ABLE TO SEE THAT THE WATER WAS FLOWING PROPERLY.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS NOT COMPLETED.

THE DRIVEWAY WHEN I, WE WERE TRYING TO WORK ON IT, I DID NOT GET A PERMIT.

I KNOW AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT IT WAS

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STOPPED BY THE NEIGHBORS.

SO THE NEIGHBORS CAME OUT, THEY WERE WALKING AND TALKING TO THE WORKERS, TRYING TO STOP THEM WALKING ON MY PROPERTY.

AND IT IS ON VIDEO, SO I WOULD'VE WANTED TO LOOK MORE PRESENTABLE AND FINISH THE PROJECT.

BUT WHEN THE NEIGHBORS ARE STOPPING ME, NOT ALLOWING ME TO DO WHATEVER I NEED TO DO TO PROTECT MY PROPERTY, JUST LIKE THEY'RE PROTECTING THEIR PROPERTY AND ELEVATING THE, THE PROPERTY AND PUSHING THE WATER OUT, I ALSO NEED TO PROTECT MY PROPERTY.

AND I DID A SURVEY AND THE SURVEY WAS DONE A MONTH AGO.

AND I AM WITHIN MY GUIDELINES OF MY PROPERTY LINE.

AND I, I, I'M FINE AS FAR AS I'M NOT TAKING ANYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY LINE AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DAMAGE ANYONE'S ELSE'S PROPERTY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO PROTECT MY PROPERTY AND DO THE BEST I CAN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING HERE, HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS.

IT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED OR MY INTENT.

AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE DRIVEWAY, PUSH THE WATER OUT AND NOT HAVE TO CREATE ANY MORE ISSUES WITH THE NEIGHBORS OR HAVING ANY CONFLICTS.

I JUST WANT TO PROTECT MY PROPERTY IN ANY WAY I CAN.

AND THEN THERE SHOULD BE OTHER, THE OTHER PICTURES AREN'T THERE.

SO THIS IS THE, THE STONE ROCK WALL FRONT IN THE HOUSE.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERY TIME THEY PICK UP THE TRASH, WHEN THEY DID BRUSH PICKUP, IT FALLS.

I'M A TEACHER SO I GO TO A LOT OF BASKETBALL GAMES AT FOOTBALL GAMES AND WHEN I COME HOME, I HAVE TO PICK THESE ROCKS UP EVERY DAY.

SO SOMETIMES THINGS ARE NOT NECESSARILY, THEY MAY BE PRETTY, BUT THEY'RE NOT PRACTICAL AND IT'S NOT THE BEST FOR WHAT I NEED.

I CAN PICK THEM UP RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN I'M 88 YEARS OLD, WILL I BE ABLE TO PICK THEM UP? THE SAME SITUATION WITH THE, THE FLOODING OF THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW, I CAN GO OUT THERE, SHOVEL SOME WATER OUT OR WHATEVER I CAN, BUT I, THIS IS THE HOUSE THAT I INTEND TO RETIRE AND STAY.

I WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOREVER.

I'M TRYING TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO PROTECT THAT HOME.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP TO THE MIC.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME.

AND YEAH, SO WE'LL DO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UM, I WILL CALL OUR, ON OUR IN-PERSON SPEAKERS FIRST.

UM, I HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED IN, BUT I SEE FOUR PEOPLE.

DO YOU ALL WANT TO SPEAK OR JUST THE ONES THAT SIGNED IN? IF YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE A SEAT, MA.

THANK YOU.

CAN I HAVE THE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? UM, AND WE'LL TAKE THE IN PERSON FIRST, PLEASE.

YES.

KRISTEN GRAHAM, CAN I JUST ASK A QUICK CLARIFICATION FOR, UM, SO THE, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

YOU WANT ME TO WAIT? OKAY.

AND WE'LL OPEN UP FOR, FOR THE DISCUSSION AND WE'LL GO, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

MS. GRAHAM.

HELLO.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

I HAD PLACED.

THANK YOU BETTY.

I'LL TRY TO SPEAK LOUDER FOR BETTY.

IF YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF TOO.

I'M KRISTIN GRAHAM.

I'M AT TWO 20 HERMINE, UM, ONE OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO 2 2 2 10.

I'M SORRY, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS , THAT'S WHY I PUT IN THE VOICEMAIL AND SENT THE LETTER.

UH, BUT NOW THAT I'VE HEARD, UM, MS. YOLANDA'S, UH, PLEA, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SHARE THAT YES, WE DO HAVE DRAINAGE AND RUNOFF ISSUES.

THIS IS ACCURATE.

HOWEVER, MANY OF US HAVE PLACED IN, AS SHE SAID, FRENCH DRAINS.

WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING TO MOVE THE WATER TO THE STREET.

UH, THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE SHE HAS ACTUALLY REMOVED AN AREA OF YARD THAT USED TO MAINTAIN SOME OF THAT WATER FROM GOING INTO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.

I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO HELP WITH THE WATER DRAINAGE ISSUES.

UM, YOU KNOW, REMOVING THE ROCK WALL, EVERYTHING WAS DONE VERY HAPHAZARDLY.

UM, I DIDN'T, DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WAS DONE IN A MANNER THAT, UH, GIVES, THAT WOULD PRESERVE.

AND THERE IS A DRIVEWAY THERE ALREADY.

IT WAS A FUNCTIONAL DRIVEWAY.

I FEEL THAT OTHER MEANS COULD HAVE BEEN APPROACHED POSSIBLY BY SPEAKING WITH OHP, GETTING THE NECESSARY PERMITS AND UNDERSTANDING MORE SO HOW THE WATER DOES FLOW.

UM, CUTTING A CITY CURB WITHOUT A PERMIT TEARING DOWN.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE ROCKS.

I WILL SAY THOSE ROCKS HAVE STOOD THERE AND HAVE NOT FALLEN WHEN THE THE GARBAGE HAS COME.

UM, BUT AFTER HER CREW WITH THE BOBCAT CAME OUT AND TORE OUT THE ROCK WALL, ET CETERA, IT IS NOW LOOSE.

EVERYTHING IS LOOSE.

SO THOSE ROCKS ARE FALLING NOW BECAUSE OF THAT.

UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT HERE TO BE,

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TO MAKE THIS PERSONAL.

I SIMPLY JUST, UM, WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE TO OCCUR THROUGH THE NATURAL PROCESS OF A OHP.

THANK Y'ALL, MS. BETTY ECKERT MY HAND.

SHE WANTED TO WALK.

OF COURSE.

YES.

I WANNA WALK.

YES, MA'AM.

BECAUSE I WANNA BE SURE I CAN HEAR THE COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I'M NOT HEARING IN THE AUDIENCE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

ABSOLUTELY.

SPEAKERS ARE NOT WORKING.

GOOD.

GOOD MORNING.

I AM BETTY ECKER AND I DO REPRESENT ALMOND PARK HARRIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

I AM THE PRESIDENT AND HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 1964.

I HAVE NOT HEARD OF THIS PROBLEM AT ALL.

SO WHAT, WHAT I'VE SEEN WE'RE, WE'RE OPPOSING IT BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, THE APPLICANT, WHO I DO NOT KNOW, HAS NOT, HAS NOT MADE ANY OF US AWARE OF IT AT THE ASSOCIATION.

WE HAVE NOT HAD, UH, ANY OTHER PEOPLE COMPLAINING ON HER MEAN.

SO WE, WE DEFINITELY ARE OPPOSED.

SHE DID NOT GO THROUGH THE, UH, THE APPLICANT, WHOEVER IT IS, DID NOT GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCEDURES.

SHE'S CUT A CURB, SHE DESTROYED THE FRONT YARD.

AND THIS WILL SET FORTH, UH, A TOTALLY BAD IMAGE FOR OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT.

WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THIS APPLICANT HAS NOT, WHOEVER IT IS, HAS NOT GONE THROUGH PROPER PROCEDURES.

IT WAS NEVER MENTIONED AT ANY ASSOCIATION MEETING THAT SHE OR WHOEVER AT ONE 10 WAS HER HERMINE WAS HAVING A PROBLEM.

SO FOR US TO BE AWARE OF IT, NO, WE WERE NOT.

SO I'M ASKING THAT THIS COMMITTEE DOES NOT, DOES NOT APPROVE THIS.

WE'RE IN OPPOSITION AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN HERE TODAY.

I DO HAVE A HARD TIME HEARING, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU ADDRESS IT TO ME, YOU SPEAK UP.

NORMALLY I DO ASK FOR SOME HEARING ADAPTERS IN THESE MEETINGS.

THEY'RE TERRIBLE.

SO IF YOU WILL SPEAK UP WHEN YOU, YOU CONSIDER THIS ISSUE TODAY, I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.

BUT JUST KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT I REPRESENT, AND I HAVE ALL PERMISSION TO SPEAK TODAY TO YOU, IS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I'M GONNA WALK HER.

YEAH, THE NEXT PERSON.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I SIT DOWN SO JERRY DOESN'T HAVE TO WALK ME BACK TO THE PODIUM.

THANK YOU.

COREY.

DO WE HAVE HEADPIECE FOR HER? NO.

THOSE ARE USED FOR TRANSLATION SERVICES.

AND SO THE INTERPRETERS CAN ONLY REPEAT WHAT'S COMING THROUGH SO SHE CAN'T GET A OOD.

UNDERSTOOD.

YEP.

UM, AND THEN GERALDINE PETERS.

YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PETERS.

GOOD MORNING.

I'M GERALDINE IGAS PETERS.

I LIVE IN, UH, HARMONY HILLS.

I AM A VERY INVOLVED PERSON, CARE ABOUT MY DISTRICT ONE AND, UH, NATIVE SAN ANTONIO.

AND I LIVE AT SIX 12 STRINGS DRIVE.

I AM SERVING AS A, UH, AS THE SECRETARY, UH, AND, UM, TREASURER OF THE ABNA, THE, UH, THE ALMOST PARK TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

I HAVE ORGANIZED, UH, THE, UH, UH, THE, THE OCTOBER 1ST OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, UH, THE NIGHT TO, UM, INVITE OUR, OUR SAFE OFFICERS AND, UM, OFFICERS TO HONOR THEM AND HAVE A, HAVE PARTIES AND ALSO ALL OF OUR MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, SINCE AFTER THE PANDEMIC.

SO I AM, LIKE I SAID, NATIVE SAN ANTONIO AND HAVE, UM, I DROVE BY THERE, UH, TODAY.

IT, IT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT WAS NEVER SOMETHING THAT WE WERE EVEN AWARE OF AS A BOARD THAT THIS, UM, FLOODING AND THIS ISSUE IS GOING.

WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S

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A LOT OF FLOODING AND THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, UH, OF, UH, SPRINGS THAT, THAT, UM, EVEN IN FRONT OF THE CHASE BANK, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, SPURRED UP AND DO THINGS.

SO WE, WE KNOW NATURE IS, UM, IT'S GOT A HOLD OF, UH, OF US, BUT, UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY, VERY UGLY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND THE CUTAWAY AND, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FUNCTION IS NOT OBVIOUS.

AND THE, AND THE DISGRACE OF THE, UH, OF THE UGLINESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY, UH, THAT'S WHAT WHY I'M OPPOSED TO IT.

I THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

THEN VOICEMAILS.

HELLO, MY NAME IS BRENDA BACHMAN AND I HAVE LIVED AT 2 0 4 HERMINE BOULEVARD SINCE 1999, AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, MOST OF THEM FOR THE BETTER.

WHEN I MOVED IN, MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR AT TWO 10 HERMINE BOULEVARD WAS THE DAUGHTER OF THE DEVELOPER HC STOREMAN OF ALMOST PARK TERRACE.

I'M SURE THEY'RE BOTH ROLLING OVER IN THEIR GRAVES.

I DISLIKE THE FACT THAT IT HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A DUPLEX.

MY COMMENT IS IN REFERENCE TO THE HDRC CASE 2025 DASH 0 2 7.

I ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE THE PROGRESSION OF THIS PROJECT AS THE HOMEOWNER DID NOT FOLLOW ANY RULES OR REGULATIONS SET FORTH BY THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE.

AND IN SPEAKING WITH HER, SHE CLEARLY STATED THAT IT WAS OF HER OPINION THAT IT WAS A MISTAKE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE DESIGNATED AS HISTORICAL AND DIDN'T BELIEVE IT WAS NECESSARY TO APPLY FOR PERMITS.

I REPLIED TO HER THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHE THOUGHT, THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF BEING DESIGNATED THAT HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT TO PRESERVE AND OR HOPEFULLY IMPROVE WHAT IS COMING TO OUR STEWARDSHIP FOR THE TIME THAT WE OWN IT? THIS GRAVEL PARKING PAD DOES NEITHER.

IT IS A MONSTROSITY OF AN EYESORE AND DEVALUES OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTIES.

SHE'S TURNED OVER A THIRD OF HER FRONT YARD INTO A GRAVEL LOT.

THERE ARE NO BORDERS TO DEFINE IT, WHICH MEANS THE GRAVEL'S GOING TO SPREAD EVERYWHERE AND ENCROACH ON MY PROPERTY OVER TIME, AS IT LITERALLY BUDDIES UP AGAINST MY PROPERTY LINE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MY NEIGHBORHOOD MAKE POSITIVE IMPROVEMENTS BY BEAUTIFYING EXTERIORS AND LANDSCAPES AND NOT MAKING THEM LESS APPEALING TO THE GUY.

I'M AFRAID THIS WILL SET A NEGATIVE PRECEDENT GOING FORWARD, AND IT'S NOT NE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION IN THIS MANNER.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, THANK YOU.

IT IS ANA ADDRESS IS 1 6 7 WEST MARIPOSA.

IT'S REGARDING CASE NUMBER 2 0 2 5 0 2 7.

REGARDING THE CEMENT, APRON AND GRAVEL DRIVEWAY AT 2 1 0 HERMINE.

I THINK THIS SHOULD NOT BE THERE.

IT LOOKS TERRIBLE.

IT DOES NOT FIT WITH THE GUIDELINES OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU.

CHARLOTTE.

C-H-A-R-L-O-P-P-E, JORGENSEN, J-O-R-E-E-N-S-E-N.

AND I'M CONTESTING THE, UM, THE CEMENT APRON AND GRAVEL DRIVEWAY AT 2 1 0 HER MINE, H-E-R-M-I-N-A IN ALMOST PARK TERRA.

IT DOESN'T CONFORM TO HISTORIC STANDARDS AND THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS REALLY WORRIED ABOUT IT.

SO AGAIN, THE ADDRESS IS 2 1 0 HER MINE.

AND, UM, THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS TED GRAHAM.

I LIVE AT TWO 20 HERMAN, AND THIS IS IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER 2025 DASH 0 2 7.

UH, IT'S A, UH, EXTRA, ANOTHER APRON AND GRAVEL DRIVEWAY INSTALLED AT THIS HOME.

UM, I AM A, UM, STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS BECAUSE IT WAS DONE ON A SATURDAY FOR ONE AND NOT, NO PERMITS WERE PULLED AND NO PERMISSION FROM YOU GUYS WAS ASKED FOR NO CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATION OR ANYTHING.

SECONDLY, THIS IS AN, AN ABOMINATION IN RESPECT TO THE GRAVEL DRIVEWAY.

IT'S IN THE FRONT YARD.

IT'S GONNA SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE YARD AND INTO MY NEIGHBOR'S YARD, WHICH IS NOT COOL.

WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME AND EFFORT, UH, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, MY OWN HOME.

I'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE CHANNELS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THE

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CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATION APPROVALS AND WHAT HAVE YOU TO DO ANY WORK I'VE DONE TO THE LANDSCAPING INTO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

THIS IS A EYESORE IN RESPECT TO ALSO THE ART WALK.

WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL 70 YARDS PARTICIPANT ART WALK, THE UPTOWN ART WALK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DON'T NEED CARS PARKED IN THE FRONT YARD FOR THE WHOLE CITY TO SEE AS THEY'RE INVITED TO SEE ALL THE ARTWORK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'VE BEEN A PARTICIPANT MYSELF FOR 11 YEARS AND I THINK THIS IS NOT GOOD.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND EFFORT.

UH, ALSO, UH, JUST REAL QUICK, THE DRAINAGE SITUATION THAT GRAVEL'S GONNA DRAIN DOWN, BE PUSHED DOWN WITH WATER DOWN TO THE STREET 'CAUSE OF HOW OUR HOUSES ON THIS SIDE OF THE NEW ROAD ARE HIGHER THAN THE ROAD.

SO THAT'S HOW IT'S GONNA WIND UP ALL OVER THE STREET, WHICH MY NAME IS DAVID A. MOORE, M-O-O-R-E.

MY ADDRESS IS 2 6 2 HERMINE BOULEVARD.

I'M CALLING ON CASE NUMBER 2 0 2 5 DASH 0 2 7 2 10 HERMINE BOULEVARD.

I OPPOSE ALLOWING HIM TO TAKE THESE CHANGES TO THE FRONT OF HIS HOME.

I OPPOSE THIS.

THANK YOU.

HELLO, MY NAME IS SANDRA WOODALL.

I LIVE AT, UH, ONE 18 HERMINE BOULEVARD AND I'M CALLING ABOUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE DRIVEWAY AND APRON INSTALLATION AT TWO 10 HERMINE BOULEVARD.

AND I WANT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS MODIFICATION BECAUSE THE DRIVEWAY AS IT IS NOW, IS NOT PARTICULARLY SAFE AND I REALLY THINK IT SHOULD BE REPAIRED.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER ITEM, A TREE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH, UH, THE HOMEOWNER WAS TOLD IS RIDDLED WITH TERMITES.

I SPOKE WITH THE NEIGHBOR OF THE HOMEOWNER, OH, I WOULD SAY A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN I WAS WALKING MY DOG ALONG THERE.

AND THIS PERSON SAID HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THAT TREE AND WHETHER, UH, BRANCHES FROM IT WOULD FALL ON HIS PROPERTY.

SO I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST, HAVING THE TREE EVALUATED BY THE CITY ARBORIST AND POSSIBLY REMOVED WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

AND, AND A, UH, AN ITEM THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE SAFETY OF BOTH HOMEOWNERS AND I WOULD SAY DRIVERS GOING DOWN HERMINE BOULEVARD.

'CAUSE THAT'S A BIG TREE AND IT'S GOT A LARGE CANOPY.

IF ANY OF THOSE LIMBS FALL, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, NOT GOOD FOR WHO'S EVER UNDER IT.

SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOODBYE.

THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

MADAM CHAIR, GO AHEAD.

SO, ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, I JUST WOULD LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, OR STAFF RATHER, IS RECOMMENDING, UM, NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS INCREASING THE WIDTH, BUT BUT NOT RECOMMENDING TWO AND THREE.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE TWO AND THREE DEAL WITH THE CURB CUTOUT AND THEN THE MATERIAL BEING GRAVEL.

AM I RECOUNTING THAT CORRECTLY? UH, SURE.

WE, WE CAN OFFER SOME CLARIFICATION.

SO, UM, OUR, OUR APOLOGIES, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET BOTH DRIVEWAYS, UM, A PHOTO OF BOTH DRIVEWAYS IN ONE PHOTO WITHOUT DISTORTING THE IMAGE TOO MUCH.

BUT IF YOU LOOK TO THE SCREEN NOW, ITEM ONE DIRECTLY RELATES TO THE INCREASE IN THE WIDTH THAT THE EXISTING HISTORIC DRIVEWAY.

SO THE KIND OF THESE WINGS HERE, UM, ITEM TWO AND ITEM THREE RELATE TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH I'LL SHOW A PHOTO OF NOW.

UM, SO THIS IS A SEPARATE, UH, DRIVEWAY, UH, APRON INSTALLATION.

AND SO THE ONE THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT, IT'S BEHIND THIS BRUSH PILE BACK HERE.

UM, AND SO STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THIS NEW DRIVEWAY APRON.

AND, UM, THE INSTALLATION OF THIS, UH, UH, UH, UM, PERVIOUS DRIVEWAY HERE.

SO, UM, AND IT GOES FURTHER BACK TOWARDS THE HOUSE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, MA'AM.

UM, AND I FORGET HER NAME.

YO, UH, YOLANDA HUMAN? NO, UH, THE, THE WOMAN IN RED, I, MY QUESTION WAS FOR STAFF TO CLARIFY THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

I WAS ASKING STAFF TO CLARIFY THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT'S WHAT HE WAS DOING.

OKAY.

UM, AND I'LL ADD ONE MORE CLARIFICATION.

UM, SO WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF TWO AND THREE, BUT IT SAYS, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT

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INSTALL LANDSCAPING BASED ON THE GUIDELINES.

AND SO IF THERE IS A FRENCH STRAIN, THIS IS NEW INFORMATION TO ME UNDER THE GRAVEL, THEN UM, THAT COULD COME BACK TO US AS A LANDSCAPING REQUEST.

THERE COULD STILL BE A GRAVEL AREA WITH PLANTINGS INCORPORATED TO ALLOW FOR THAT DRAINAGE.

NEXT PERSON, PLEASE.

TO MY LEFT.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF AND THEN A COUPLE FOR THE OWNER.

UM, I GUESS I'M CURIOUS, UH, THE WIDENING OF THE APRON HAS ALREADY OCCURRED, RIGHT? AND WHY, UM, WHY DO YOU FIND THAT ACCEPTABLE? UM, SO TYPICALLY IF THIS WAS A NEW DRIVEWAY, WE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A 12 FOOT CURB CUT.

SO THIS IS KIND OF WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN DID YOU GO OUT AND MEET WITH THE CLIENT ON THE PROPERTY OR THE OWNER? SO THIS CAME IN, UM, AS A 3 1 1 REPORT AS WELL AS A REPORT, UM, SENT TO STAFF.

AND SO THE, THE PHOTOS TAKEN HERE WERE, I, I TOOK THEM.

SO I WENT OUT TO SITE TO ISSUE A NOTICE OF INVESTIGATION.

UM, I HAVE NOT MET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ON SITE, HOWEVER, SO THE PHOTOS OR THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS NOT PRESENT WHEN WE ISSUED THE NOTICE OF INVESTIGATION.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN FOR THE OWNER, COULD YOU PLEASE COME UP TO THE, TO THE MIC PLEASE? UM, I THINK IN ONE OF THE COMMENTS SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT THIS IS A DUPLEX.

YES.

AND I WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT I DID NOT CONVERT IT INTO A DUPLEX.

IT WAS LONG AGO.

THE SAME THING WAS MENTIONED THAT IT, IT USED TO HAVE A GARAGE.

I DIDN'T, I I HAD BEEN THERE A MONTH, SO THIS WAS PURCHASED AS IS.

AND I, I HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THOSE MODIFICATIONS, IT WAS BEFORE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S COMING INTO PLAY RIGHT NOW IF I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

AND IS YOUR INTENTION TO USE IT AS A DUPLEX? NOT AT THIS MOMENT.

I'M, I LIVE ALONE AND I'M OKAY WITH IT.

IF ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE MY PARENTS CAN COME LIVE WITH ME OR I, ONE OF MY NEPHEWS OR NIECES THAT ARE GOING TO SCHOOL NEARBY, BUT NOT AT THIS MOMENT.

SO THEN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THIS DRIVEWAY, WHICH YOU'RE CALLING A, A RUNOFF CHANNEL MM-HMM .

YES.

COULD ACTUALLY THEN BE A DRIVEWAY IF IT'S A DUPLEX, IF IT'S USED, YES.

UM, PROBABLY IT WOULD BE FOR ME.

'CAUSE IF, IF IT'S MY PARENTS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE CLOSER TO THE, THE OTHER PROPERTY, THE OTHER UNIT, WHICH IS IN THE BACK.

BUT IT, IT WOULD SERVE A LONG TERM USE EVENTUALLY.

BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT I WANNA DO IS SAVE MY HOUSE AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO FURTHER DAMAGE.

UM, AND IT'S WORKED AT THE OTHER HOUSE ON THE RAIN AS, AS CRAZY AS IT MAY SOUND.

AND IT WAS ENGINEERS FROM THE CITY THAT DETERMINED THAT.

UM, AND ONE LAST QUESTION.

DOES THIS HOUSE HAVE A GUTTER SYSTEM ON IT? IT DOES HAVE SOME.

IT'S NOT THAT GREAT.

THAT IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS TOO.

I, I INTEND TO DO EVERYTHING ELSE.

I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS DRIVEWAY AND USE IT ALSO AS PART OF A LITTLE BIT OF A DRAINAGE AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

'CAUSE IT'S JUST GONNA BE REALLY COSTLY TO REMOVE IT AND START FROM SCRATCH.

BUT I I, MY PLAN IS TO DO EVERYTHING I DID ON THE RAIN, WHICH WAS GUTTERS, FRENCH DRAIN AND ALL OF THAT.

LIKE I MENTIONED, IT WORKED FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT THEN IT, IT DIDN'T AND THAT'S WHY I DID GET 51 SIGNATURES AND THERE'S PHONE NUMBERS ON THERE AND ADDRESSES.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO CALL THEM.

AND A LOT OF THEM ARE HAVING THE SAME ISSUE.

SO THEY UNDERSTOOD AND THEY WANT THIS APPROVED AS WELL.

AND THEN ONE FINAL CLARIFICATION.

UM, YOU ARE AWARE THAT IT'S A HISTORIC DISTRICT? YES.

AND THERE IS A PROCESS? YES.

AND I, UM, I APOLOGIZE.

I DID NOT DO THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'LL NOW MOVE TO ONLINE.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS CHRISTOPHER.

UM, A A QUESTION AND A COMMENT.

UM, I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS, I, I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ABOUT, UM, THE REMOVAL OF THE, UM, UM, THE, THE NEW CURB CUT.

DID THEY ALSO WANT THE, UM, THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE RETAINING WALL ON THE FRONT? AND THEN MY COMMENT WOULD ALSO JUST BE ALONG THE LINES OF, I'M, I'M A, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME IMAGINING HOW THIS IS GOING TO, UH, UH, FUNCTION IN TERMS OF A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.

IT'S GONNA MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.

AND I'M CONCERNED THAT THE GRAVEL WILL NOT ONLY END UP IN THE STREET, BUT, BUT, UH, ALSO EVENTUALLY IN THE STORMWATER DRAIN AND WOULD,

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UH, UNFORTUNATELY DECREASE THE CAPACITY OF THE STORMWATER.

SO IT COULD ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE TO ADDITIONAL STORMWATER, FLOODING AND, AND MAJOR EVENTS.

AND I'LL SIGN OFF THERE.

UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE WALL, IT IS NOT HISTORIC, SO THERE WOULD BE NO REQUIREMENT TO REBUILD THE WALL.

UM, AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO HISTORIC RESOURCES THAT THAT WALL WAS REDUCED.

NO VIOLATION THERE.

ARE THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS FOR ONLINE? OKAY, I'LL MOVE TO MY RIGHT.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

UM, AND JUST A CLARIFICATION.

SO I'VE SEEN THREE ADDRESSES ON SOME OF THESE SLI SLIDES.

TWO 13 WAS THE FIRST SLIDE.

I'M ASSUMING THAT SHOULD HAVE SAID TWO 10.

AND THEN THIS ONE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN SAYS 2 0 4.

THAT'S THE SECOND UNIT I GUESS, OF THE DUPLEX OR SO, UM, I, I CAN ADD SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

OKAY.

SO THE, THE APP THAT STAFF USES FOR TIMESTAMP PHOTOS, UM, USES THE GIS APPLICATION.

AND SO, UM, AT TIMES THE ADDRESSING IS SLIGHTLY OFF.

HOWEVER, UM, WE ARE ONLY DISCUSSING TWO 10, HER MINE TWO 10.

RIGHT.

UH, OKAY.

AND SO, UH, QUESTION FOR MS. JIMENEZ, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

CAN YOU COME UP AGAIN ONE MORE TIME? UM, SO THE, THE, UH, WIDENING OF THE APRON WIDTH, UM, I GUESS WHAT YOU'VE SHARED IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT FOR THE EXISTING WAS FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES, THAT AREA? THIS RIGHT HERE? YES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND SO DID, DID YOU GET OR CONSULT WITH AN ENGINEER OR SOMEONE SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE DRAINAGE? I, I SPOKE, THERE'S A LETTER FROM AN ENGINEER AND HE SAID THAT IT WOULD WORK.

UM, THAT AREA ALSO HAS A GATE THAT'S ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM.

I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT, IT SHOULD BE IN ONE OF THE PICTURES SO IT DOESN'T ALLOW WATER TO FLOW OUT.

AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION.

IT WAS TO MAKE THAT GATE.

UM, I, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S ON ONE OF THOSE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER TO ALLOW A LITTLE BIT OF WATER TO FLOW OUT.

AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE GRAVEL, THAT GRAVEL WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.

IT WAS JUST BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS KEPT COMING IN AND OUT AND, UM, TALKING TO THE, UH, WORKERS THAT THEY GOT REALLY, UH, UNCOMFORTABLE AND THEY WANTED TO LEAVE.

SO THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, AND THAT WAS THE ISSUE.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO COMPLETE IT.

AND I HAVE THAT INTENTION AND I'M WILLING TO MEET WITH THE COMMITTEE AND I'LL DO IT PROPERLY AS FAR AS REMOVING THAT GRAVEL.

BUT THAT GRAVEL WAS THERE BECAUSE THEY JUST STARTED GETTING REALLY NERVOUS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS KEPT COMING AND, AND HARASSING THEM AND ATTACKING THEM.

AND, AND I WAS JUST LIKE, THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO LEAVE.

AND I SAID, OKAY, GO AHEAD AND LEAVE.

AND THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA PUT THE GRAVEL THERE TEMPORARILY.

AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHEN THEY'RE OKAY AND THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, DON'T COME INTO YOUR PROPERTY, WE CAN COMPLETE IT PROPERLY.

BUT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO.

AND THE SAME SITUATION WITH THE TREE WHEN I WAS TRYING TO CUT THE TREE THAT HAS TERMITES, THE NEIGHBOR KEPT COMING OVER AND THE, THE WORKERS FELT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND THEY SAID THEY, THEY WOULD JUST WANTED TO LEAVE.

IF YOU SEE THE PICTURE ON THERE, ON THE APRON, UM, THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNED ABOUT, I GUESS SOME OF THE GRAVEL GOING TO HER PROPERTY.

I DID GET A SURVEY.

AND THE SURVEY, I MEAN, THEY, THEY DID EVERYTHING RIGHT.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT HER COLUMN THAT'S RIGHT THERE IS ON MY PROPERTY, AND I REALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

I'M NOT GONNA HAVE IT HER REMOVE IT BECAUSE IT IS A PRETTY COLUMN.

BUT THE SURVEYOR DID SAY THAT IT WAS ON MY PROPERTY.

SO I'M NOT GOING INTO ANY EL ANYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY, AND I'M NOT WANTING TO DAMAGE ANYBODY ELSE.

I JUST WANT TO DO WHATEVER I CAN DO TO PROTECT MY PROPERTY.

OKAY.

AND SO IN, WHEN YOU INSTALLED THE SECOND DRIVEWAY MM-HMM .

WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT SOLELY FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES OR IT IT WAS BECAUSE IT WORKED ON THE, THE HOUSE ON THE RAIN AND THE HOUSE ON THE RAIN WAS CLOSER TO THE, THE WATER, UM, THE DRAINAGE OUTAGE THAT IT COULD GO.

BUT, UM, I, IT JUST, I MEAN, I REALLY, I DON'T PARK THERE.

I DON'T, I I, I AM NOT PARKING THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT WAS THE PURPOSE.

IT DOES WORK.

AND IT WORKED ON THE RAIN BECAUSE I HAVE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES SINCE THEY FIXED IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

JUST MADAM CHAIR, CAN YOU PUT, MA'AM, CAN YOU STATE THAT AT THE PODIUM? I'M SURE IT'S GONNA BE THE QUESTION.

THERE'S A QUESTION, TAMAL.

YEAH.

I ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, TWO QUESTIONS.

I THINK THE FIR UM, MANY OF THE COMMENTS FROM, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS DEALT WITH, SORRY, SORRY.

NO, IF YOU COULD LEAVE IT ON THAT PICTURE.

THE, THE PREVIOUS ONE? UH, NO, THE, THE ONE THAT WAS THE CLOSEUP OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S EXTENDED.

YOU, YOU HAD IT UP JUST A SECOND AGO.

YEAH.

SO MANY OF THE COMMENTS DEALT WITH THE GRASS AND THE, AND THE LAWN BEING CUT OUT.

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SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, SINCE STAFF IS, IS RECOMMENDING THE WIDENING OF, OF THAT DRIVEWAY THERE, THAT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS MANY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS MOSTLY DEALT WITH THE, THE LANDSCAPING.

AM I CORRECT IN THAT? UM, SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT, UM, LIKE AS YOU HAD MENTIONED, THAT THE EXPANSION OF THIS OR THE WIDTH OF THIS DRIVEWAY, UM, BE APPROVED AS CONSTRUCTED.

UM, THE REMOVAL OF GRASS IN THESE SECTIONS WOULD NOT, UM, EXCEED, UH, ANY, UM, MINIMUM STANDARDS AS OUTLINED IN THE LANDSCAPE POLICY DOCUMENT.

SO, UM, THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF, UH, OF LANDSCAPING ON SITE.

NOW, AGAIN, AS, UH, CORY HAD MENTIONED, IF THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO RETAIN THE GRAVEL PORTION AND MAKE IT A LANDSCAPE FEATURE, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AT THAT POINT, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD APPROVE ADMINISTRATIVELY, WOULD BE THE INCORPORATION OF PLANTINGS WITHIN THE, THE GRAVEL PORTION.

UM, SO IT'S FOR THIS REQUEST FOR THE WIDENING OF THE DRIVEWAY, UM, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, BUT IT IS THE INSTALLATION OF THE, OF THE OPPOSITE DRIVEWAY IN APRON THAT WE, WE, UH, ARE NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR.

OKAY.

AND THEN THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE APPLICANT.

MM-HMM .

SO ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST FOR LONG GRAVEL DRIVEWAY.

AND I'M, I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE DRIVEWAYS, BUT ARE YOU, ONE, WAS THE REQUEST IN NUMBER THREE BY YOU TO HAVE THE ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BE GRAVEL OR THE ONE BENEATH IT IN THE PICTURE BENEATH IT TO BE GRAVEL? WHAT IS YOUR REQUEST FOR THE GRAVEL FOR, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THE ONE THAT CURRENTLY HAS GRAVEL, UH, IT, NUMBER THREE, IT SAYS INSTALL A FIVE FOOT EIGHT INCH WIDE BY FOUR FOOT LONG GRAVEL DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT YARD.

SO I'M, I'M ASKING, I'M ASKING WHAT IS THAT REQUEST? UM, I, I CAN OFFER, UM, UH, SOME CLARIFICATION.

SO THE REQUESTS ARE FOR WHAT'S CURRENTLY INSTALLED, UM, POST, UH, POST WORK.

AND SO THE GRAVEL PORTION WOULD BE WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE ON THE SCREEN NOW, IT WOULD BE CONNECTED TO THE, UM, INSTALLED DRIVEWAY APRON.

UM, AS OF NOW, THE APPLICANT HAS NOT REQUESTED ANY MODIFICATION TO THE HISTORIC, UH, DRIVEWAY.

OKAY.

SO THE, SO THE REQUEST IS TO KEEP THAT GRAVEL AS IS AND THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST IS? YES.

OKAY, GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD WANT TO DO IT CORRECT AND DO IT RIGHT TO FINISH IT.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

I HAVE QUESTIONS.

OH, YOU GO AHEAD.

GO FIRST.

ALL RIGHT.

BRIAN, I WANNA SLOW WALK THIS JUST A LITTLE.

YES.

UH, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF, UH, DIFFERENT COMPONENT THAT HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED BY, OH, SORRY.

SORRY MS. ECKER.

I WANNA SLOW WALK THIS JUST A LITTLE, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, ITEMS MENTIONED BY NEIGHBORS, BY EVERYONE ELSE.

SO STARTING WITH NUMBER ONE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY.

INCREASING THE WIDTH OF AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY, APRON, THE PICTURE WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW WITH THE TWO WINGS ON THE SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY.

THAT'S OKAY.

IS STAFF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THAT? YES.

AND THERE IS NO EX WIDENING OF THE, IS SHE REQUESTING WIDENING OF THE DRIVEWAY BEYOND THE TWO WINGS THAT WERE ADDED AT THIS TIME? THAT HAS NOT BEEN MADE A REQUEST ITEM.

OKAY.

SO THEN THIS ONE IS JUST THE TWO WINGS AND KEEPING THEM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE NEXT ONE, ITEM TWO, INSTALL A NEW FRONT YARD CONCRETE DRIVEWAY, APRON, 18 FOOT BY WIDE AND TAPERS TO 15.

UH, WHICH IS THAT RIGHT THERE.

AND THAT WAS DONE WITHOUT A C OF A? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THEN NUMBER THREE, INSTALL A 15 FOOT WIDE BY 48 INCH LONG OR FOOT A LONG DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT YARD.

WHICH AGAIN, IF YOU GO BACK IS I THINK TO THAT OTHER SLIDE.

THAT'S THAT RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

AND THOSE, THAT A SECOND DRIVEWAY, THAT ONE PICTURED WITH THE GRAVEL DRIVEWAY IS WHAT, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL ON, RIGHT? CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

THERE'S NOTHING HERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE WALL IN THE FRONT.

UM, CORRECT.

SO AT THIS TIME, THAT'S

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NOT, UH, A REQUEST ITEM.

UM, AS COREY HAD MENTIONED, THE RETAINING WALL'S NOT A HISTORIC CONDITION.

UM, OKAY.

IF THE, YOU KNOW, APPLICANT WANTED TO DO, UM, SOME LANDSCAPE MODIFICATIONS AND ESPECIALLY ANY MODIFICATIONS THAT CAN HELP WITH, UH, STORM WATER RUNOFF, SO LONG AS IT ADHERES TO GUIDELINES, UM, STAFF WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO APPROVE THOSE MODIFICATIONS ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT IT'S NOT A ITEM OF TODAY.

THANK YOU.

I JUST NEEDED TO CLARIFY ON THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT WERE TO THIS REQUEST, BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING, MS. JIMENEZ, UH, I THINK YOU MENTIONED ABOUT WANTING THE GRAVEL DRIVEWAY, BUT THEN, UH, SAYING THAT YOU WANTED TO COMPLY.

YES.

I WANTED TO COMPLETE IT CORRECTLY.

IT, IT ENDED UP BEING THAT WAY.

DO YOU WANT IT TO BE CONCRETE OR DO YOU WANT IT GRAVEL? LIKE WHAT'S IN WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT.

I MEAN, I JUST, I, 'CAUSE THIS IS SAYING HERE YOU WANTED A GRAVEL DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS YES, I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S NOT, IT'S JUST WHATEVER I CAN DO TO COMPLY, KEEP THAT.

AND IF, WHATEVER YOU FEEL THAT IT'S CORRECT OR LOOKS GREAT OR WHATEVER, I, I'M WILLING TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

AND THEN IF Y'ALL WANT CEMENT, I'LL DO THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE DONE.

AND THEN YOU HAD INSTALLED, YOU KEEP MENTIONING A HOUSE ON, IS IT THE RAIN? MM-HMM .

THAT YOU HAD DONE THE SAME THING? I DIDN'T.

IT WAS A CITY, THE, WHENEVER THEY DID THE STREET, THEY ACTUALLY, THERE WAS SO MANY ISSUES WITH WATER COMING IN AND, AND THEY REALIZED IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING.

AND IT WAS A PROJECT THAT TOOK FOREVER.

IT TOOK LIKE, I MEAN, A COUPLE MONTHS, ALMOST EIGHT MONTHS, AND THEY HAD TO KEEP GOING BACK BECAUSE THEY, THEY DIDN'T, THEY WEREN'T GETTING IT RIGHT.

IT WAS, IT DROWNING THE HOUSES.

AND THAT'S JUST OUR HOUSES.

THE HOUSE IS FURTHER DOWN.

SURE, SURE.

UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A POOL OF WATER.

OKAY.

THERE'S NO WALKING.

BUT ISN'T THE RAIN WITHIN THE HISTORIC ALSO? YES.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THEY WERE ABLE TO APPROVE THAT THERE.

WELL, THEY DID IT.

THEY, I GUESS THEY DID THE PERMITS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY EVEN GAVE ME A SIDEWALK SLANTED IT, AND IT, IT HAS WORKED.

WONDERFUL.

AND THAT'S WHY.

OKAY.

I WANT THE SAME THING FOR THIS HOUSE BECAUSE THIS IS THE HOUSE THAT I'M GONNA BE LIVING IN FOR THE REST.

I MEAN, I'M RETIRING IN THIS HOUSE, I'M NOT MOVING, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE DESPITE WHAT, WHOEVER WANTS ME TO MOVE OUT, I'M NOT MOVING OUT.

THIS IS MY HOME, OF COURSE.

UM, OKAY.

I JUST HAD TO SLOW WALK THAT BRIAN AND STAFF, UH, JUST TO GET A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE ASKS HERE.

WELL, AND CAN I ADD TO THAT? THANK YOU.

UH, LIKE, SO IS IS REQUEST NUMBER TWO, THE CEMENT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PICTURE.

AND REQUEST NUMBER THREE ABOVE THAT IS, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? REQUEST NUMBER TWO IS THE CONCRETE REQUEST.

NUMBER THREE IS THE GRAVEL.

THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU BRIAN .

AND, AND I'M GLAD WE SLOWED IT DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

HOWEVER, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE SAME THING.

WE'RE, DID THE APPLICANT REACH OUT TO THE HISTORIC SOCIETY? NO, I DID NOT.

DID THEY HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM TO GET GUIDELINES? NO.

WERE YOU PROVIDED GUIDELINES? NO.

DID YOU REQUEST GUIDELINES? NO.

I, WHEN IT WAS A HISTORICAL SOCIETY, NO.

OKAY.

BUT YET THE CITY CAME OUT TO WORK WITH YOU, RIGHT? FOR THRA? FOR FOR THE NO, FOR THE CURRENT, NO.

OKAY.

UM, AND THESE WERE DONE WITHOUT CERTIFICATE OF OF APPROPRIATE? CORRECT.

OKAY.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE ALSO GUIDELINES FOR THE FRONT OF THE HOME GUIDE, UM, STANDARDS.

IS THAT CORRECT, BRIAN? SO, UH, THE OFFICE OF THE, BECAUSE WE'RE THE RE LET ME CLARIFY THAT.

WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT LAND LANDSCAPING, WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING LANDSCAPING, WE'RE ADDRESSING THE DRIVEWAY.

WE'RE ADDRESSING WHAT WAS NOT DONE APPROPRIATELY AND THE CERTIFICATES THAT WERE NOT ACHIEVED AND THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE WILLING TO COMPLY WITH AS WELL AS FROM THE STAFF TO THE APPLICANT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO THE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ITEMS ONE, TWO, AND THREE, UM, PERIOD.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A VOTE AT THIS TIME.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS, CLARIFICATIONS.

OKAY.

MADAM CHAIR? YES, MADAM CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A, A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

I NEED A SECOND.

I SECOND.

ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

UM, MR. VASQUEZ, JUST WANNA CLARIFY, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS ARE APPROVAL OF ONE, DENIAL OF TWO AND THREE THAT IS CORRECT.

APPROVAL OF THE WINGS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE ON THE

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SITE OF THE EXISTING ORIGINAL DRIVEWAY, AND DENIAL OF THE ADDED DRIVEWAY AND THE GRAVEL, UH, WHATEVER IT IS.

ANYTHING ELSE? I, I SECOND AGAIN, QUESTION MARK.

YES, THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ROLL CABO PLEASE.

FLORES NAY GARCIA.

AYE.

BRI, REGARD? AYE.

SETZER.

AYE.

FULLERTON? AYE.

P*****K.

AYE.

VASQUEZ.

AYE.

AND S AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

MA'AM, IF YOU'LL PLEASE GO BACK AND WORK WITH, WITH STAFF AND ALSO REACH OUT TO THE HISTORIC SOCIETY PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

HAVE, NO, THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM.

SAY AGAIN SIR.

THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM.

THANK YOU.

AND I GUESS WE'RE ADJOURNED.

DO WE NEED A VOTE? NOPE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NOPE, YOU CAN CALL IT.

THANK YOU.