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GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
UH, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMONTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION IN THE SESSION.
I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
UM, MARCO BATTLES, DISTRICT NINE.
ROB SIPES, DISTRICT SEVEN, OVA ORTIZ, DISTRICT EIGHT.
DANIEL KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10.
STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT? YES, THE QUORUM IS PRESENT.
UH, WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALRIGHT, PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR MEETING, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO START, UH, EXCUSE ME.
PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PRE PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED WHEN THE TWO MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THE SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED INTO SPEAK AND MUST YIELD THAT TIME.
WHEN THE PERSON COMES UP TO THE PODIUM, THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
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POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS TODAY? WE DO NOT.UH, STAFF IF YOU WOULD JUST GO OVER THE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE COMBINED HEARING ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEMS NUMBER 1, 2, 3, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 AND 15.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WOULD ANY COMMISSIONER LIKE TO PULL ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING TO MY LEFT.
STAFF, IF WE COULD READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2310 AND 2314 SANTA MONICA STREET.
THE APPLICANT UM, I'M SORRY, 19 NOTICES WERE SENT.
OPPOSED LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION.
THE APPLICANT WANTS TO AMEND TO C ONE S LAKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION
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FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 2300 BLOCK OF SACRAMENTO STREET.
LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO TEXAS DISTRICT ONE'S RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION AND THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO AMEND TO C TWO NA FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO C TWO NA CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A FUNERAL HOME OR UNDERTAKING PARLOR WITH ALL OF RELAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 5 5 5 MORRISON BOULEVARD.
ZERO OPPOSED HARLANDALE MCCOLLUM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NEUTRAL.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C ONE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR USED AUTOMOBILE SALES TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 6 1 2 LABOR STREET.
OPPOSED LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CONVENIENT STORE WITH GASOLINE FILLING STATION AND GAS TANKS HAVING 50,000 GALLONS, 50,001 GALLONS OR MORE.
TOTAL TANK CAPACITY WITHIN 200 FEET OF A MULTIFAMILY ZONING AND USES TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 1 3 0 6 HUEBNER ROAD 49.
ZERO OPPOSED RIOT COMMONS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE ACREAGE TO 1.148 ACRES OUT OF NCB 1 5 0 1 7 ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 TO MXD WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 33 ACRES, 33 UNITS PER WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 68 32 MARBACH ROAD.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR.
THE APPLICANT IS AMENDING THE ACREAGE TO 3.03 ACRES OUT OF NCB 1 5 5 6 9 NUMBER 12.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO C TWO LOCATED AT 9 9 8 9 EBNER ROAD.
OPPOSED OAKLAND OAKLAND ESTATES AND RIOT COMMONS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM G TO RM FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 3 2 0 2 SCARSDALE STREET.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HOSPITAL TO IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR A PARKING GARAGE LOCATE, UH, WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT FOUR 10 OGDEN STREET.
TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE'S RESIDENT ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO NA TO MF 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 0 2 1 5 WEST TEJAS TRAIL.
ZERO OPPOSED RIOT COM RIOT COMMONS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION GAVE NO RESPONSE AND WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN YOU ARE READY.
UH, PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT I WROTE IT VERY LARGELY ON MY NOTEPAD.
UM, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE PLEASE COME UP.
AND YOUR ADDRESS SIR, CAN YOU TURN THE MIC ON? THREE 15.
THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE SUITE 3 0 4.
UM, MR. CHRISTENSEN, YOU'RE THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE? YES SIR.
ARE YOU AMENDING YOUR REQUEST? YES I AM.
AND YOU ARE ALSO THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO? YES I AM.
ARE YOU AMENDING THAT APP APPLICATION? YES.
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HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR ITEM NUMBER 10 PLEASE.GOOD AFTERNOON, ASHLEY FAIRMONT, 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE.
AND YOU'RE AMENDING YOUR APPLICATION WITH RESPECT TO ACREAGE, CORRECT? YES.
REDUCING THE ACRE ACREAGE TO 1.148 ACRES.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR ITEM NUMBER 11.
MATTHEW GILBERT 1 1 2 EAST PECAN.
UH, AND YOU ARE AMENDING UH, THE REQUEST FOR ITEM NUMBER 11? CORRECT.
AND WHAT IS YOUR AMENDMENT? UH, REDUCING THE ACREAGE TO 3.03 ACRES.
ALRIGHT, UH, IF WE COULD HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.
WE HAVE UH, A VOICEMAIL FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO BE PLAYED.
ALL ON BEHALF OF THE LAKA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR ITEM NUMBER 9 6 1 2 LABOR STREET FOR TUESDAY, MARCH 4TH.
THE LAKA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE PROPERTY OWNER'S REQUEST AS IT ADJUSTS ZONING TO ALIGN WITH THE USE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS CONTEXTUALLY APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION.
ALRIGHT, STAFF, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION, MR. CHAIR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER ONE AS AMENDED AND READ INTO THE RECORD AND CONFIRMED BY THE APPLICANT.
ITEM NUMBER TWO AS AMENDED AND READ INTO THE RECORD AND CONFIRMED BY THE APPLICANT ITEMS NUMBER THREE, NINE.
NUMBER 10, WITH AMENDED ACREAGE AS CONFIRMED BY THE APPLICANT.
NUMBER 11 WITH AMENDED ACREAGE AS CONFIRMED BY THE APPLICANT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL BE HAPPY TO SECOND THAT MOTION.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER WATSON, INCLUDING AMENDMENTS AS NOTED, UH, WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REBATO.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER? ON MY RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, FOR THOSE APPLICANTS WHO ARE HERE AND NEED TO GO ON YOUR WAY, UH, YOU ARE FREE TO ENJOY THE REST OF THIS RATHER WINDY DAY.
UH, YOU ARE NOW PROCEEDING TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO HANG OUT WITH US, IT'S FINE TOO, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO.
UM, ALRIGHT, WE'RE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT DOCKET, WHICH IS A CONTINUANCE HEARING TO APRIL 15TH.
UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX IS REQUESTING A SIX WEEK CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 15TH.
AND WE DO HAVE A MIX OF VOICEMAILS AND FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UM, THE FIRST MS. CI WALKER? MS. ALRIGHT, MS. WALKER AND MS. WALKER.
MS. WALKER, DID YOU, SORRY, MS. WALKER, DID YOU WANT YOUR VOICEMAIL PLAYED OR DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? OH, OKAY.
THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO CONFIRM.
UM, SO WE'LL PLAY VOICEMAILS OR WE CAN PLAY VOICEMAILS AND THEN SPEAKERS OR HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO.
UH, AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO'S LEFT A VOICEMAIL THAT WOULD PREFER THEIR VOICEMAIL TO BE PLAYED.
LET'S BEGIN WITH THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
AND JUST A REMINDER TO STAFF THAT'S TWO MINUTES EACH.
NINE ZERO NINE NORTH PINE STREET.
UM, PHONE NUMBER (404) 593-1499.
THE CASE NUMBER IN REFERENCE IS LAST TWO DIGITS 2 6 9.
UM, THIS MESSAGE IS, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
UM, I WANTED TO VOICE MY OPINION THAT, UH, AND IN DISSENT IN OPPOSITION TO THE, TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS, UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY CHANGE REQUESTS WILL BRING UNNECESSARY, UM, TRAFFIC TO THE AREA THAT IS NOT BEING ACCOMMODATED FOR.
UM, I FEEL THAT IF THESE CHANGES, YOU KNOW, IF THE OWNER WANTS TO CHANGE IT TO MORE OF
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A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THEN I BELIEVE THAT CONCESSION SHOULD BE MADE FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING.UM, SO IT'S NOT TO DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO DISRUPT THE, THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, I BELIEVE THE WAY THAT THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST IS BEING DONE AT THIS TIME IS NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION OTHER PEOPLE AND PUTTING BURDEN ON THE NEIGHBORS AND THE OWNER IS NOT TAKING, UM, RESPONSIBILITY IN PROVIDING ADEQUATE PARKING, UM, THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST WILL BRING.
UH, MS. AVIVA, THIS IS AUDREY MCNAUGHTON.
I LIVE AT 8 29 HAY STREET AND I'M CALLING IN REGARD TO A ZONING CASE.
UM, I BELIEVE THE ADDRESS IS NINE 14 NORTH PINE STREET.
AND THE ZONING, UM, OH GOSH, UH, THE ZONING CASE NUMBER IS Z 20 24 1 0 7 0 0 0 2 6 9.
I AM CALLING, UM, IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
UM, AS I SAID, I LIVE AT 8 29 HAY STREET, WHICH IS A, WITHIN THE 200, UH, FEET RANGE.
I BELIEVE THAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE, UM, THE NOTICES SENT OUT.
UM, I'M OPPOSED ON THE BASIS OF NUMBER ONE, THE LACK OF PARKING FOR THAT, UM, PARTICULAR AREA.
I DO NOT LIKE THE THOUGHT OF CARS UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
I MOVED OUT OF KING WILLIAM FOR THAT PARTICULAR REASON.
UM, PEOPLE PARKING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, UH, TRASH ON MY LAWN.
I AM HAPPY BEING IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THERE'S A SURGEON THAT LIVES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PARTICULAR, UM, ZONING REQUEST AND, UM, I'M SURE SHE NEEDS HER SLEEP.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UH, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL BLOCK.
UH, FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I THINK IT WOULD SET A PRECEDENT AND I, AGAIN, AM ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THAT PARTICULAR ZONING CHANGE.
UM, I THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN RESIDENTIAL.
MY PHONE NUMBER, UM, I WILL LEAVE SO THAT, UH, SOMEONE CAN CALL ME BACK IF THEY'D LIKE.
IT'S TWO TEN FOUR THREE NINE NINE EIGHT SEVEN ZERO.
MY NAME, MY NAME IS CINDY WALKER.
MY CELL PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 367-8128 AND I LIVE AT EIGHT 20 HAY STREET.
I'M CALLING REGARDING KV 20 24 1 0 7 0 0 0 2 6 9 FOR A REZONING REQUEST AT NINE 14 NORTH PINE STREET.
I'M CALLING NOT IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING REQUEST.
PLEASE FEEL AND CONTACT ME FREE AND CONTACT ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
JORDAN HANDLER, 6 0 1 NOLAN STREET, SAN ANTONIO.
I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 4 1 0 7 0 0 0 2 6 9 PERTAINING TO 9 1 4 NORTH PINE STREET.
IS LULU FRANCOIS CHAIR PERSON OF THE DIGNITY WITTY HILL HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD REVIEW COMMITTEE AND I'M CALLING IN ON CASE NUMBER 1 0 7 0 0 2 6 9.
THE DIGNITY HILL HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD REVIEW COMMITTEE IS IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS ZONING REQUEST.
THE INVESTOR WHO OWNS PINE 14 LLC IS REQUESTING IDV ZONING FOR TWO ITEMS. A RETAIL BEVERAGE SHOP THAT WOULD SELL COFFEE AND OR WINE AND A HOME DAY DECOR SHOP FOR CLIENTS THAT WOULD DISPLAY CERAMICS, LINENS AND OTHER HOME GOODS STAFF'S.
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE, THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SITUATED WITHIN A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
MAKING THE PROPOSED USES CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING COMMUNITY COULD NOT BE MORE INACCURATE, ALTHOUGH THERE IS IDD AND C ACROSS THE STREET AT 9 0 1 NORTH PINE.
THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HISTORICALLY SERVED THE COMMUNITY AS THE HOME OF CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL CHURCH AND THEIR OFFICES AND HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE
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FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS BEFORE IT BURNED DOWN NINE 14.NORTH PINE, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS LOCATED MIDBLOCK AND IS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSES, WHICH IS WHY THEIR CURRENT ZONING IS ALSO R FIVE, SINGLE FAMILY AND STAFF'S.
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER FIVE, THAT ADDRESSES PUBLIC POLICY TO REQUEST COMPLETELY CONFLICT WITH PUBLIC POLICY GOALS BECAUSE ONE, THE COMMUNITY IS ALREADY STABLE AND INCLUSIVE.
TWO, THE INVESTOR APPLICANTS ARE ALREADY EMPLOYED AND REZONING WILL ONLY MAKE THE WORKPLACE CONVENIENT FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND THREE, AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, THIS LOCATION IS SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSES.
WHEN THE INVESTORS STATE THEY WANT THIS LOCATION TO BE A GATHERING PLACE.
THIS IS A VAGUE DESCRIPTION THAT CAN BRING ABOUT UNINTENDED AND UNWELCOME CONSEQUE.
ADDRESS IS 1158 NORTH OLIVE STREET.
CASE NUMBER, THE LAST THREE DIGITS ARE 2 6 9.
UM, AS RESIDENT, AS A RESIDENT, UH, WITH DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF THE DAY TO DAY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I JUST WANNA VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THIS ZONING REQUEST.
MY PRIMARY CONCERN WITH THE ZONING REQUEST IS THAT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE PARKING.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
UM, WHICH WOULD MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD JUST GO OFF INTO THE STREET.
I'VE SEEN HOW CONGESTED THE STREETS GET WHEN SCHOOL GETS OUT OR WHEN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME HAS A, A SOCIAL GATHERING.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY TIGHT AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE INCONVENIENCE THAT THE RESIDENTS AND NOT TO INCLUDE EMERGENCY VEHICLES WOULD EXPERIENCE IF THE ZONING REQUESTS WERE APPROVED.
I, I JUST FORESEE A NIGHTMARE.
UM, OTHER THAN THE PARKING ISSUE, I JUST ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT COMMERCIAL ZONING, I, IT DOESN'T BELONG IN THE MIDDLE OF RESIDENTIAL AREA AND I KNOW THAT THE TERRAMARK BUILDING IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, SO IT MAY SEEM LIKE A CONTRADICTION, BUT CONTEXT MATTERS.
YOU KNOW, THE PLOT WAS USED BY A CHURCH SEVERAL YEARS BACK BEFORE IT'S BURNED DOWN.
AND TERRAMARK IS A QUIET BUSINESS.
LOOK, I SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES.
I REALLY DO, BUT NOT IN THE HEART OF A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD STREET.
THERE ARE MORE APPROPRIATE PLACES LIKE ON NOLAN AND AUSTIN STREET SURROUNDING THE DIGNITY HILL AREA.
THIS CHANGE ISN'T SOMETHING THAT I WANT FOR MY NEIGHBORS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANT FOR MYSELF.
IT, SO I KINDLY ASK THAT THE ZONING REQUEST BE DENIED.
UM, I'LL, I'LL JUST LEAVE WITH THIS.
I, I DO WORRY THAT IF THIS ZONING REQUEST GOES THROUGH, IT MIGHT START A DOMINO EFFECT WHERE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE THEN CONVERTED INTO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND THEN WE LOSE THE QUIET LOVING COMMUNITY THAT I, I COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM SIX.
A REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE FROM R FIVE WITH CONDITIONAL USES TO IDZ ONE WHICH USE IS PERMITTED IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AT NINE 14 NORTH PINE.
I LIVE AT 1120 EAST CROCKETT IN DIGNITY HILL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.
I'M CONTACTING YOU TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
THE REQUEST FOR DUPLEX USE IS REASONABLE AND AS INCREASING RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WHERE COMPATIBLE IS REALLY FOUND.
HOWEVER, MY RESERVATIONS FOR THIS REQUEST STEM FROM THE NC AND THE PROPERTY'S LOCATION ON AN INNER OR TYPICALLY COMMERCIAL USES ON A COMMERCIAL ON A CORNER LOT DIRECTLY IMPACT TWO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ON THEIR RESPECTIVE PROPERTY LINES.
IN THIS CASE THERE ARE FIVE PROPERTIES WITH ADDRESSES ON PINE LAMAR AND HAYES STREET THAT SHARE PROPERTY LINES WITH THE PROPOSED BUSINESS AND PARKING AREAS AND WOULD DEFINITELY BE IMPACTED PER THE CITY'S MAJOR THOROUGH FAIR PLAN OF 2024.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS MAJOR THOROUGHFARES ON WHICH THIS TYPE OF NEIGHBOR, THIS TYPE OF MIXED USE CAN BE VERY COMPATIBLE AND VERY USEFUL.
HACKBERRY COMMERCIAL, UH, COMMERCE AND HOUSTON STREETS ARE MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS, BUT PINE STREET ISN'T ONE OF THEM.
I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE LONG-TERM IMPACT OF LOCATING COMMERCIAL USES THAT INCLUDE A RETAIL COMPONENT IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK SURROUNDED BY PROPERTIES THAT ARE PRIMARILY R FIVE.
AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO OPPOSE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I LIVE AT 9 1 9 UH, NORTH PINE STREET.
I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE ZONING REQUEST CHANGE FOR 9 1 4 NORTH PINE STREET.
THE LAST THREE OF THE CASE NUMBER ARE 2 6 9.
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SO WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ZONING REQUEST CHANGE DUE MOSTLY DUE TO PARKING ISSUES.UH, WE'VE DEALT WITH A LOT OF CHANGES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE WE MOVED IN IN 2018 AND A LOT OF, UH, THE CONGESTION THE STREET HAS INCREASED, UH, LARGELY FROM AN INCREASE IN, UH, RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
HOWEVER, UH, WE'VE NOTICED THAT THE CONGESTION HAS INCREASED FROM THAT, BUT WE THINK IT'LL INCREASE A LOT MORE FROM THIS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S NOT A OFF STREET PARKING LOT WITH THE CAPACITY FOR 10 OR 15 VEHICLES.
UM, I DON'T THINK THE ZONING CHANGE IN THE INTEREST OF CURRENT RESIDENTS 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY NOTICED AN, UH, CONGESTION INCREASE IN PARKING.
WE THINK THE STREET PARKING WILL GET A LOT WORSE.
WE ALSO THINK THAT THE PRECEDENT COULD LEAD TO MORE ISSUES IN THE FUTURE.
THEREFORE, UH, MY WIFE AND I ARE BOTH OPPOSED TO THE ZONING REQUEST CHANGE.
9 2 2 NORTH PINE STREET NUMBER 8 1 5 4 0 1 3 6 8 1.
I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER 2 6 9.
I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
IBD ZONING IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA.
IT CREATES EXCEPTIONS TO THE EXACT THINGS THAT MAKE FOR A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT LITERALLY ACCEPTS NEIGHBORS QUALITY OF LIFE OVER COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONING.
ONE IS MEANT TO HELP DEVELOP UNDERUSED PARCELS.
THIS LOT ALREADY HAS FOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS HARDLY UNDERUSED AND NEARBY IDZ ONE ZONE LOTS ARE PART OF A SUBDIVISION THAT WAS ZONED OVER A DECADE AGO WHEN IDZ WAS ALL THE RAGE.
FORTUNATELY, THIS IS NO LONGER THE CASE AND SHOULD NOT BE USED AS A PRECEDENT.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SEVERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THAT ARE VERY UNDERDEVELOPED.
THIS ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S LONG TERM PLAN FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS WHERE DEVELOPERS AND THE CITY SHOULD FOCUS ON CREATING MORE COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES.
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL HAS A PLACE AND THESE USES ARE ALREADY ALLOWED BY RIGHT BUSINESSES SUCH AS ONE CHAIR.
BEAUTY SALONS, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, ET CETERA HAVE ZERO IMPACT ON NEIGHBORS.
THESE SMALL SINGLE PERSON BUSINESSES CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ACTIVE DURING THE DAY WHEN MOST HOMES ARE EMPTY AS THEIR RESIDENTS TRAVEL TO WORK.
A CAFE OR BAR WITH A FEW OF FIVE TABLES COULD HAVE 20 GUESTS.
EVEN IF THE GUESTS ARRIVE TWO PER CAR, THEY AT LEAST 10 CARS LOOKING FOR PARKING.
THE APPLICANT'S CURRENT PARKING SEVEN SPACES PROVIDES PARKING FOR RESIDENTS LEAVING ONLY THREE PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE FOR CUSTOMERS.
THIS WILL FORCE CUSTOMERS TO PARK ON AN ALREADY CROWDED STREET.
CAFES AND BARS DO NOT BELONG IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE REQUESTS REASON IS LISTED AS RETAIL HOBBY COFFEE, WINE BAR.
THIS PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY USED AS A POPUP RESTAURANT, CLEARLY SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE USES DESPITE ASSURANCES OF NO ALLOWED MUSIC, NO LOUD GUESTS, ET CETERA.
OUR CITY IS ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH BARS AND RESTAURANTS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
NOISE ORDINANCES HAVE BEEN CHANGED, ARBITRATORS HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED AND YET TIME AND TIME AGAIN THE FACTS SHOW THAT BARS AND RESTAURANTS CANNOT COEXIST WITH HOMES.
THE CITY SHOULD NOT APPROVE ZONING FOR USE THAT HAS ALREADY PROVEN ITSELF TO BE PROBLEMATIC AT BEST.
VALERIE TTES CALLING IN CONTINUED COMMENTS FOR DIGNA WITTY HILL HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD REVIEW COMMITTEE REGARDING ZONING CASE 1 0 7 0 0 2 6 9.
LOCATED AT NINE 14 NORTH PINE STREET.
THE INVESTORS' PROPOSED BUSINESS PLAN MAY APPEAR TO BE LOW IMPACT, BUT A MAJOR CONCERN WE HAVE IS THIS IDZ NC ZONING WOULD REMAIN IN PERPETUITY, POTENTIALLY HOUSING UNDESIRABLE BUSINESSES SUCH AS ANIMAL PET SERVICES, FITNESS, HEALTH CLUB, BAKERY, CONVENIENCE STORE AND RESTAURANT.
THIS REZONING WOULD ALLOW THESE USES TO EXIST WITHOUT THE PROMISE OF LIMITING BUSINESS HOURS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO RUN THEM COUNTER TO STAFF FINDING.
NUMBER TWO, THERE WILL BE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE NUMBER OF POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS PATRONIZING BOTH LOCATIONS WOULD BE DISRUPTIVE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.
SINCE THE POTENTIAL FOR OVERFLOW PARKING ONTO NORTH PINE WOULD BE STRONG.
EVEN NOW, ZONING STAFF IS ALREADY RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPLICANT BE PREPARED TO PROCURE DUMPSTER SERVICES FROM A PRIVATE WASTE HAULING BUSINESS IF THE APPLICANTS WISH TO OPEN THEIR BUSINESSES.
D WHITTY HILL HAS AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL STRIP ON THE CORNER OF NOLAN AND NORTH PINE, LITERALLY 0.2 MILES AWAY AND AN EASY FIVE MINUTE WALK FROM NINE 14 NORTH PINE STREET.
IN FACT, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AT NINE 17 NOLAN IS A LONG VACANT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY FOR SALE AND IS ACCOMMODATE A COFFEE SHOP AND OR RETAIL OFFICE.
PERHAPS THE INVESTORS CAN INVESTIGATE OPENING THEIR BUSINESSES AT THIS LOCATION.
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ANY FURTHER VOICEMAILS? NO MORE VOICEMAILS.ALRIGHT, IF YOU COULD HAVE THE FIRST SPEAKER PLEASE.
AND SHE IS TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. LIZ FRANKLIN.
MS. HYMAN, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS? OH, ELIA, JAIME.
EVEN THOUGH MY NEIGHBORS KNOW ME AS CHACHA JAIME, THE OTHER NAME MY MOTHER GAVE TO ME ONE DAY.
BUT, UM, THE HOUSE THAT I LIVE IN HAS BELONGED TO MY HUSBAND'S FAMILY SINCE 1955.
I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO STAY RESIDENTIAL.
I BACK UP INTO THE CLYDE ERICKSON'S PROPERTIES.
THEY ARE NOT VERY GOOD NEIGHBORS AND THEY ALSO HAVE ISSUES WITH MY NEIGHBOR.
AND I MOVED, MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE 24 YEARS AGO FOR IT TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
AND I OPPOSED THE FACT THAT THERE'S, THAT THEY SHOULD BUILD A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WHEN WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO, NO PARKING.
THE, UH, APARTMENT BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET GAVE ME A LOT OF GRIEF WITH MY, WITH PARKING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND THEIR ALARMS GOING OFF AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I REQUESTED THE CITY TO PUT A NO PARKING SIGN FROM MY PROPERTY LINE TO NORTH PINE BECAUSE THE BUS STOP IS NEXT TO ME.
SO THEREFORE, IF SOMEBODY HAS ANY ISSUES AND START PARKING IN FRONT OF MY PROPERTY, THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE WILL NOT HAVE ENOUGH OF ME
I SPEAK FOR ALL OF, FOR ALL OF US.
AND I THINK THAT HOW DARE THAT SOMEBODY COMES IN THAT I WASN'T EVEN BORN IN THE UNITED STATES TO COME AND TAKE OVER OUR PROPERTY.
AND I WAS BORN IN THE VERY AREA WHERE I LIVE NOW.
COULD YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? EIGHT 13 HAYES.
UH, MS. FRANKLIN, I DON'T SEE, OH NOPE.
YOU WERE JUST HIDDEN FROM ME AND AF WALKING'S A SECONDARY THING FOR ME.
OH NO, I'M GONNA COME UP THERE.
AND WHILE MS. FRANKLIN'S HEADING UP HERE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SILENCE OR TURN OFF YOUR CELL PHONES, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
UH, LIZ FRANKLIN, FIVE 15 HAYES.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WAS GONNA BE A LIGHT DAY AND THEY WEREN'T EVEN GONNA AND THEY WEREN'T EVEN GONNA SPEAK TODAY.
SO, UM, IT'S ALL BEEN SAID, BUT THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST, I THINK, I THINK I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT BOTHER ME.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GRANDEST BLOCK.
YOU GO UP AND DOWN THAT BLOCK.
WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, BETTY GREEN, MS. BETTY GREEN, WHO'S NOW IN HEAVEN WATCHING OVER US, SAID TO ME, THIS IS THE HIGH SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THOUGHT, AM I, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANNA ASK OUT, RIGHT? AM I HIGH SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? BUT I CAN TELL YOU A BLOCK DOWN WHERE THE KIDS ARE SHOULD BE THE HIGH SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OKAY? AT ONE POINT I WAS SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE DAVID GET IN THERE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A BUNKER IN A WAR ZONE THAT I THOUGHT WHATEVER HE WANTS TO DO, LITTLE DID I KNOW THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE TRUE.
10 YEARS LATER, OKAY? IT'S AN OLD DRY CLEANERS.
I GET WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S LEACHING OUT OF THE GROUND AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA PUT A SHOVEL INTO.
BUT I THINK I ALSO WORRY ABOUT MY NEIGHBORS AND THE INABILITY TO PARK AND HAVE SOME QUALITY AND PEACE OF LIFE THAT THEY ENJOY BECAUSE OF THE MONEY THEY'VE SPENT HERE.
UM, I WISH THE ERICKSON'S, UM, ALL THE LUCK IN THE WORLD, BUT LITERALLY RIGHT DOWN THE BLOCK IS A PLACE SCREAMING FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK WHERE THE KIDS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET BACK AND FORTH TO SCHOOL ARE NOT SURE IF SOMEBODY'S LAYING IN THE GROUND BECAUSE THEY'RE DEAD ON DRUGS OR DRUNK.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT'S THE CASE.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
SOMEBODY'S KEEPING MY TIME RIGHT.
'CAUSE I COULD SPEAK FOR AN HOUR RIGHT AWAY.
UM, THAT'S ANOTHER THING I THINK WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT NOT BE SO INCLINED TO SPEAK TODAY HAD THEY SPOKE TO US AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AT ANY POINT UP UNTIL NOW.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU MS. FRANKLIN AS ALWAYS.
AND UH, LAST WE HAVE, UH, JAMIE ROWAN, FORGIVE ME IN ADVANCE.
ALRIGHT, IF YOU WOULD JUST KICK OFF WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
I LIVE AT 9 23 NORTH PINE STREET, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
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WOULD YOU, SORRY, WOULD YOU GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE OR GET THE MICROPHONE CLOSER TO YOU? OKAY.NINE TWENTY THREE NORTH PINE STREET, UH, DIRECTLY KITTY-CORNER ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
UH, I'M IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING, UH, FROM RESIDENTIAL TO IDZ ONE AND JUST WANNA PROVIDE THE REASONS WHY.
THE FIRST REASON IS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL BLOCK SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND SINCE RECEIVING THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST LETTER LAST WEEK, I'VE SPOKEN TO THE MAJORITY OF MY NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.
AND I'VE YET TO SPEAK TO ONE THAT IS IN FAVOR OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK NEXT TO THEIR HOMES.
AND FOR SOME REASON, STAFF COMMENTS IN THE FINAL AGENDA MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THIS BLOCK IS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THE SECOND REASON WE OPPOSE IS DUE TO A LACK OF PARKING.
BUT I'M NOT GONNA ELABORATE ON THAT BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE DID.
THE LAST REASON WE WERE OPPOSED TO THE REZONING AS NEIGHBORS IS BECAUSE OF THE PRECEDENT AND BISSETTE.
IF YOU ALLOW THIS RESIDENCE TO BE REZONED TO COMMERCIAL ON ONE OF THE CROWN JEWEL BLOCKS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NO LESS THAN WHAT PREVENTS ANY OTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE REZONED TO COMMERCIAL.
AND REMEMBER, ZONING IS FOREVER.
SO IF THE CURRENT OWNERS CHANGE THEIR MIND ON THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THEY'D LIKE TO OPERATE, WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN AS NEIGHBORS THE SAME WAY WE DO NOW.
AND THE SAME GOES FROM WHEN THEY DECIDE TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND THE NEW OWNER HAS DIFFERENT PLANS FOR THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE IN PLACE.
ALSO, IMAGINE WHAT THIS COULD DO TO THE HOME VALUES OF THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS.
LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS DO NOT HAVE THE LUXURY OF DEED RESTRICTIONS PREVENTING THIS VERY THING FROM HAPPENING.
BUT WITH YOUR HELP, UH, WE CAN STILL HAVE RESPONSIBLE ZONING.
AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UM, I AM GONNA MAKE JUST ONE COMMENT BEFORE WE MOTION.
UM, I USUALLY DO CONTINUANCES ANYWAY, BUT THIS IS ALSO MY, IN MY CASE.
UM, YOU ARE GETTING A CONTINUANCE TODAY, PROVIDED MY MOTION IS SUPPORTED.
YOU SHOULD TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN PERSON AT A MEETING.
IF YOU DO NOT DO THAT, THERE WILL BE SOME CONCERN.
WITHOUT, MY MOTION IS TO CONTINUE THIS TILL APRIL 15TH.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, I THINK I SAW YOU.
SO THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
ITEM NUMBER SIX UNTIL APRIL 15TH BY COMMISSIONER WATSON, UH, WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE ON MY LEFT.
ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 15TH.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I'M SURE WE'LL SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL DOCKET AND THAT WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
GOOD AFTERNOON, BROUGHT TO FOR ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT 1 5 0 1 5 JONES MOSSBERG GOING FROM C TWO TO C TWO S.
THERE ARE 22 NOTICES SENT ONE IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSE OUT INSIDE 200 FEET.
AND THEN OUTSIDE 200 FEET THERE WERE ZERO IN FAVOR AND FOUR OPPOSED OAK PA HAR OAK HOLLOW PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO S COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE SPECIFIC USE FOR CAR WASH IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
STAFF HAS CONCERNS THAT THE PROPOSED USE FOR CAR WASH IS INAPPROPRIATELY LOCATED, ABUTTING ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS.
UM, THERE'S LIMITED SPACE FOR AN APPROPRIATE BUFFER BETWEEN THE VACUUMS AND MACHINES FROM THE ESTABLISHED HOMES.
AND THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUFFERING TO PROTECT NEARBY RESIDENTS FROM NOISE AND CAR WASH TRAFFIC IN CAR QUEUING AREAS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE WOULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE.
I'M THE APPLICANT WITH LONE STAR BUILDERS.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS.
UM, WE HAVE CONTINUED THIS A FEW TIMES.
UM, SO I WANTED TO BRING UP, I GUESS FIRST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
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AT THE TIME OF THE FIRST MEETING SCHEDULED, WE, UH, WE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL UNTIL PROBABLY THE DAY BEFORE.USUALLY WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD UNTIL WE'VE WORKED THROUGH ISSUES WITH STAFF, WHICH WE TRY TO GET, GET THROUGH THAT AND GET A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE CAUGHT OFF GUARD THERE.
UH, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF THINGS SINCE THEN.
UH, SO THIS IS A PRETTY DIFFERENT PROJECT AT THIS POINT, BUT STAFF INFORMED US ONCE A RECOMMENDATION'S GIVEN THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
SO I WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO, UM, TO CHANGE, UH, CHANGE IT FROM THE, UH, THE ORIGINAL, UH, REVIEW.
UM, THE BIGGEST THING IS WE REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, INITIALLY WE DIDN'T HAVE, UM, ANY, ANY NOTICES OF, OF OPPOSITION UNTIL, I THINK IT WAS THE DAY OF OR THE, OR THE DAY BEFORE MAYBE.
SO, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS AT THAT FIRST MEETING.
SO WE APPRECIATE THE CONTINUANCE AND, AND THE TIME WE'VE HAD TO NOW WORK THROUGH THOSE CONCERNS.
WE, WE'VE SENT MANY VOICEMAILS, MANY EMAILS.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE RECEIVED SOME OF THOSE, UM, LETTERS OF CONCERN AND SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS TO THE SITE TO, TO MITIGATE THOSE CONCERNS.
AND WE WERE ACTUALLY LAST WEEK FINALLY ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM, UM, UH, VIA ZOOM OR GOOGLE METER.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT WE, WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM AND WE REVIEWED THESE CONCERNS AND I THINK A FEW OF THEM HAVE COME OUT TODAY AS WELL.
UM, BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST WANTED TO NOTE.
UH, WITH THESE CHANGES, I I WON'T GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GO OVER THESE IN MORE DETAIL LATER.
BUT, UM, WE'VE REALLY CUT DOWN ON THE NOISE.
THE NOISE ORDINANCE FOR, UH, THE CITY FOR RESIDENTIAL IS 63 DECIBELS FOR NOISE LEVEL.
WE HAVE CONTRACTED WITH A NOISE CONSULTANT AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE ARE IMPLEMENTING AND WE ARE WELL BELOW THAT NOISE ORDINANCE WITH OUR, UH, WITH OUR PROPOSAL.
ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS TO PUT IN AN EIGHT FOOT BLOCK WALL THAT'LL, THAT ALONE CUTS IT WAY DOWN.
THERE'S THINGS WE CAN DO IN THE TUNNEL WITH OUR EQUIPMENT, THE VACUUMS. UM, SO THAT IS, WE, WE'VE COMPLETELY MITIGATED THAT CONCERN OF NOISE AND CUT THAT DOWN.
UM, WITH THAT, UH, BLOCK WALL, THAT ALSO CUTS DOWN ON JUST THE VIEW.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EIGHT FOOT BLOCK WALL.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORS WANTED.
SO THAT'LL CUT DOWN ON JUST THE VISIBILITY AS WELL.
OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE SHIELDED LIGHTING.
IT AUTOMATICALLY SHUTS OFF EVERY NIGHT OTHER THAN SECURITY LIGHTING, WHICH OF COURSE IS, IS A GOOD THING.
WE WANT A LITTLE BIT OF SECURITY LIGHTING, UM, TRAFFIC.
ONE THING WE, WE REALLY PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THAT BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S ALSO A SAFETY CONCERN.
SO WE'VE PROVIDED, UH, PLENTY OF STACKING AT THIS LOCATION.
UM, OUR, OUR CAR WASH IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FASTER SERVICE TIMES OF, OF CAR WASHES ON THE MARKET, MEANING THE TIME IT TAKES TO WASH YOUR CAR.
SO WE ACTUALLY MOVE CAR CARS THROUGH PRETTY QUICKLY, WHICH HELPS ALLEVIATE STACKING CONCERNS.
UM, BUT THIS, WE, WE'VE ORIENTED THE BUILDING AS FAR AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCES AS POSSIBLE, UM, WHICH IS HOW ALSO WE WERE ABLE TO MEET THE, THE NOISE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THERE ARE ALSO CONCERNS WITH, WITH TREES.
UM, WE WORK IN A LOT OF CITIES AND SAN ANTONIO HAS ONE OF THE, THE BEST AND STRICTEST TREE MITIGATION PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
SO YEAH, THERE ARE SOME TREES.
WE WILL HAVE TO REMOVE A FEW TREES, BUT WE WILL OF COURSE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE TREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS, UH, EITHER BY REPLACING THEM OR PAYING INTO A MITIGATION FUND.
WE WANT OUR SITE TO BE BEAUTIFUL.
UM, THAT'S HOW WE GET, UH, CUSTOMERS TO COME.
UM, BUT REALLY THIS IS, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER PERMITTED USES WON'T, WON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS.
YOU KNOW, A A TIRE REPAIR SHOP COULD COME IN AND BUILD WITHOUT ANY, ANY INPUT AND HAVING TO DO ANYTHING.
AND WE ALL KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY NOISY.
UM, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM.
IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE'VE STRIVED AS A, AS BUSINESS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
UM, FINALLY, I I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON, UM, ONE, ONE LAST CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S JUST TOO MANY CAR WASHES.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE SATURATION POINT? WHERE ARE WE WITH THIS? THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CAR WASHES.
THIS IS A BIG INVESTMENT FOR US,
WE, WE DO THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THESE, UM, NOT ONLY IN SAN ANTONIO BUT IN OTHER MARKETS.
AND WE PUT A LOT OF, A LOT OF EFFORT INTO CHOOSING AN AREA, UH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND, UH, ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE SEVERAL TYPES OF CAR WASHES.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OVERLAP IN OUR CUSTOMER BASE WITH MAYBE A SELF-SERVE CAR WASH OR A FULL DETAIL SHOP.
SO, UM, REALLY WE DON'T, WE LIKE TO
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COMPARE THE MARKET WITH, WITH COMPARABLE CAR WASHES.AND I REACHED OUT TO OUR, WE, WE HAVE A, A SEPARATE, UM, REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE.
THEY DO A LOT OF OUR ANALYSIS AND FIND PROPERTIES FOR US.
AND WHEN I REACHED OUT ABOUT THIS SITE, I SAID, HEY, WHAT, WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON AT THIS SITE? THIS IS WHAT HIS RESPONSE, HE SAID, THERE'S ZERO OTHER EXPRESS CAR WASHES, MEANING A SIMILAR TYPE OF CAR WASHES WITHIN TWO MILES OF THIS PROPERTY.
THAT IS UNHEARD OF IN ANY MAJOR MARKET IN THE COUNTRY.
THIS WOULD BE THE FIFTH CAR WASH WITHIN THREE MILES, GIVING THE CAR WASH TO POPULATION RATIO, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR MAIN METRICS FOR DETERMINING OVERSATURATION AND AREA.
UM, BUT IT WOULD GIVE THE POPULATION RATIO, UH, 17,000 PEOPLE, UH, PER CAR WASH, WHICH 15,000 IS KIND OF OUR, THAT'S WHERE WE, ANYTHING WITH OVER 15,000 IS NOW, NOW WE KNOW IT'S A REALLY LOW DENSITY AREA AND THIS ONE HAS 17,000 AFTER OUR CAR WASH IS BUILT.
SO IT'S REALLY, I KNOW THERE'S THAT PERCEPTION SOMETIMES, BUT THIS AREA ACTUALLY HAS, UM, A LOW SATURATION COMPARATIVE TO, TO OTHER MARKETS.
UM, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST WANNA WASH CARS.
YOU FEEL GOOD WHEN YOU WASH YOUR CAR.
UH, WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
WE WANT TO BE AN, AN EXCELLENT SERVICE.
WE'RE THE NEW CAR WASH IN THE AREA.
SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE AND THAT COMPETITION AND BUSINESS IS, I THINK, A GOOD THING.
IT'S A WIN FOR THE, A WIN FOR THE PEOPLE THERE.
THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CAR WASH THAT'S MAYBE BEEN THERE A WHILE, THEY ALSO HAVE TO STEP UP THEIR GAME AND, AND DO VERY WELL.
SO, UM, WITH THAT WE'VE, WE'VE MITIGATED ALL CONCERNS.
WE'VE PAID ATTENTION TO THOSE CONCERNS.
WITH THAT I WOULD ASK FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO.
WE HAVE VOICEMAILS AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SPEAKERS.
AND JUST TO CONFIRM, UM, MS. SUMMERS, YOU LEFT A VOICEMAIL.
DID YOU WANT TO LEAVE, HAVE THE VOICEMAIL PLATE OR DO YOU WANNA SPEAK VOICEMAIL? I'M SORRY.
SO WE'LL HAVE THE VOICEMAIL PLAYED.
MY ADDRESS IS 27 34 PEBBLE BREEZE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO THREE TWO.
AND MY PHONE NUMBER'S (210) 707-2216.
I AM CALLING REGARDING CASE 2 7 8.
THIS SUBTEXTS ME GREATLY AS MY BACKYARD PRESSED RIGHT BEHIND IT.
I DO NOT WISH TO HAVE PEOPLE LOOKING IN AND INVADING MY PRIVACY.
I DO NOT WISH TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND MY HOUSE AT ALL HOURS.
I REFUSE TO HAVE MY CHILDREN IN THE BACKYARD, MY GRANDCHILDREN IN THE BACKYARD AND HAVING STRANGERS JUST OUT THERE.
I CONSIDER THAT A SAFETY ISSUE.
I DO NOT WANT A CAR WASH RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE LOT IS BIG ENOUGH AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER CAR WASHES.
MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE AS BIG AS A TUNNEL, BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER CAR WASHES IN THE AREA.
UH, 1 5, 2 3 3
UH, CALLING OFF UH, TO SAY OPPOSITION AGAINST THE UH, PLANNED CAR WASH X TWO O COLLO PARK, JUAN JONES MOLTZ BERGER.
UM, SO PLEASE COUNT MY OPPOSITION TO THAT.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 560-5996 AND I CURRENTLY LIVE AT 15 3 0 2 PEBBLE PASS.
I'M CALLING IN REGARD TO CASE NUMBER Z 2020 4 1 0 7 0 0 2 78 S AS IN SAM.
CURRENTLY I RESIDE IN THE APOLLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE BEING ZONED AND COMMISSIONED FOR A CAR WASH AT THE LOCATION OF AN OLD PIZZA HUT.
I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO AN OPPOSITION, UM, BASED ON THE FACT THAT I CURRENTLY LIVE ON JONES BURGER AND I HAVE A RETAINING WALL THAT BREAKS MY BACKYARD FROM THE ROAD.
THE ROAD NOISE IS NOT DECREASED
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DUE TO THIS RETAINING WALL AND SERVES NO PURPOSE OTHER THAN TO KEEP OUT PEOPLE FROM THE STREET AND MAYBE BLOCK A LITTLE BIT OF CAR VISUAL AID.AT THIS TIME, I DO NOT RECOMMEND HAVING THE CAR WASH BE BUILT AT THE LOCATION IT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR SAFETY REASONS, I DON'T THINK IT IS A SAFE AREA FOR CARS TO BE COMING IN AND OUT OF.
WE ALREADY HAVE TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THEY COME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY DO A TURNAROUND RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
MY CHILDREN ARE USUALLY PLAYING OUTSIDE AND I'M OUT THERE WATCHING THEM WHERE I NOTICE THESE CARS COME IN AND EITHER DO AN ILLEGAL U-TURN IN OUR THREE-WAY STOP OR THEY COME DOWN INTO OUR CUL-DE-SAC AND DO A TURNAROUND TO LEAVE.
I THINK THAT IF THIS CAR WASH HAS BEEN BUILT, MORE TRAFFIC WILL STILL FLOW THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT AN UNSAFELY MANNER.
I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT THIS WILL HELP ANY TYPE OF NOISE COMPLAINTS, NOR WILL THERE ANY OTHER PURPOSE CONSIDERING THERE ARE MORE CAR WASHES IN THE AREA.
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF AND OUR FEEDBACK.
AGAIN, I, HI, MY NAME IS JOYCE RI AND I LIVE AT 27 22 PEBBLE BREEZE IN SAN ANTONIO AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 365-7237.
I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER 2 7 8 REGARDING, UM, THE REZONING OF 15 0 1 5 JONES MALTSBERGER ROAD.
THEY WANNA TURN THAT INTO A QUICK QUACK CAR WASH AND I'M CALLING TO ASK THAT Y'ALL PLEASE DENY THE REZONING WE LIVE BEHIND IT.
AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WANT TO LINE THE CARS UP AGAINST THE FENCE LINE AND I BELIEVE THAT'S A FIRE LANE AND THAT WOULD NOT BE A WISE THING TO HAVE.
THERE'S ALSO A DAYCARE LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE CAR WASH WHERE IT WOULD BE AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT SAFE.
AND THERE'S ALSO A SCHOOL HERE, UM, FOR, UM, DISABLED CHILDREN AND THERE'S VIA FRIENDS THAT COME THROUGH HERE ALL DAY DROPPING AND PICKING UP THOSE STUDENTS AND THEY GO OUT THAT EXIT WHERE THE PIZZA HUT CURRENTLY IS.
AND THAT CAUSES A PROBLEM FOR THE BUSES TO GET OUT OF THIS SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, WE REALLY DON'T NEED ANOTHER CAR WASH IN THIS AREA.
THERE'S ABOUT EIGHT WITHIN JUST SEVERAL BLOCKS AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S A NEW ONE GOING IN ON JONES MUL BERGER JUST DOWN THE ROAD WHERE THE OLD CAMILLAS USED TO BE.
PLEASE, UH, CONSIDER DENYING THIS REQUEST.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A VERY SMART MOVE ON THEIR PART.
WE DON'T NEED THE LIGHTS, WE DON'T NEED THE, THE NOISE.
AND THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK? AND THE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA IS HORRENDOUS ALREADY.
THERE'S SO MANY WRECKS FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO GET INTO THE MCDONALD'S TRYING TO COME OUT OF THE HEB PARKING LOT.
THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE PEOPLE.
MY NAME'S KATHY NICKSON, UH, 2 6 5 0 FOREST PEBBLE.
I LIVE IN THE OAK HOLLOW PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A CAR WASH THAT'S GOING IN AT THE PIZZA HUT ON JONES MALTSBERGER.
I, SORRY I DON'T HAVE THE CASE NUMBER.
I JUST WAS GIVEN A TELEPHONE NUMBER.
THERE'S ONE THAT'S GOING DOWN NOT EVEN A FOURTH OF A MILE DOWN THE STREET.
DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED THAT MANY CAR WASHES, ESPECIALLY SINCE EVERY YEAR WE'RE UNDER DROUGHT AND WE CAN'T WATER OUR YARDS.
SO MY COMPLAINT IS I DON'T WANT THAT CAR WASH.
I DON'T LIVE UP AGAINST IT LIKE SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE A TRAFFIC JAM AND IT'S ALREADY BAD.
FIVE O'CLOCK TRAFFIC ON JONES MALZBERG.
SO THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
THIS IS LINDA'S NUMBERS AT 27 38 PEBBLE BREEZE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 32.
I'M CALLING ABOUT UH, THE CASE NUMBER Z 20 24 1 0 7 0 0 2 7 8 S.
AND I'M CALLING TO SAY NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
WE DON'T WANT A CAR WASH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE BUILT A POOL, A GAZEBO, EVERYTHING ELSE IN OUR BACKYARD AND WE EXPECT A LITTLE PROPHECY WHEN WE ARE DOING THAT AND OUR PEOPLE CAN LOOK THROUGH OUR FENCE AND SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE DON'T REALLY DON'T CARE FOR THAT.
AND, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE CONSIDER RECONSIDER AND VOTE.
THIS IS MARYANNE EVANS AT ONE FIVE TWO THREE ZERO COUPLE FOREST DRIVE.
MY PHONE NUMBER'S (210) 884-3293.
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APOLOGIZE.I DON'T HAVE A CASE NUMBER TO REFERENCE PERHAPS THAT SHOULD BE COMMUNICATED, UM, ACROSS ALL, UM, COMMUNICATIONS FROM YOUR OFFICE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT.
BUT, UH, THE ADDRESS IN QUESTION IS 1 5 0 1 5 JONES MALTSBERGER ROAD.
CURRENTLY IT'S ZONED FOR A RESTAURANT AND THERE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE IT FOR AN ADDITIONAL CAR WASH IN THE AREA.
AS A RESIDENT OF THIS AREA, WE HAVE NO NEED FOR ANOTHER CAR WASH NEAR US.
THERE ARE PLENTY IN A VARIETY OF TYPES, VARIETY IN THE, THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
I WOULD DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY INCREASE TO THE, THE NOISE LEVEL AROUND OUR HOMES NOR THE TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION, WHICH IS ALREADY INCREASINGLY PROBLEMATIC.
WHAT WE DO NEED IS A BALANCED MIX OF BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE.
THEY ARE ALL TRENDING DOWN DOWNWARD.
UM, WHAT WE NEED IS TO ELEVATE THE AREA AND NOT CREATE MORE NOISE, MORE CHAOS AND MORE INEXPENSIVE TYPE BUSINESSES AND SERVICES AROUND HERE.
SO A HOLISTIC VIEW OF THE AREA IS PROBABLY IN ORDER, UM, AND DEFINITELY NOT ANOTHER CAR WASH.
I LIVE AT 27 30 PEBBLE BREEZE.
THE CASE NUMBER IS ZERO TWO SEVEN EIGHT.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 491-0554.
I AM OPPOSED TO THE REZONING REQUEST BECAUSE A CAR WASH SHOULD NOT BE BUILT ADJACENT TO HOUSES.
THE PROPOSED SITE IS NOT SUITABLE FOR A CAR WASH BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO OUR BACKYARDS.
AND THE SITE SMALL SIZE QUICK WAX PROPOSED ROAD TO THE CAR WASH TUNNEL WOULD RUN DIRECTLY BEHIND THE FULL LENGTH OF TWO BACKYARDS.
THEIR SITE PLAN INDICATES THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS 0.67 ACRES.
THIS IS ONE THIRD SMALLER THAN WHAT QUICK REFERS IN A SITE PER LETTER FROM MR. DENNISON.
OUR DESIRED SITE SIZE FOR EACH LOCATION IS PLUS OR MINUS ONE ACRE.
MR. DENNISON'S LETTER ALSO STATES OUR DRYER BLOWERS AND VACUUMS ARE DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT AT THE PROPERTY LINE, THE SOUND WILL NOT EXCEED THAT OF THE TRAFFIC OF THE NEARBY ROAD.
HIS ASSERTION IS NOT AT ALL REASSURING.
WE ALREADY HEAR TOO MUCH NOISE FROM TRAFFIC.
WE DON'T WANT ADDITIONAL SOURCES ADDING TO THE NOISE POLLUTION WE ALREADY EXPERIENCE.
WHEN SEARCHING FOR THE VIDEO OF YOUR FEBRUARY 18TH MEETING, I RAN ACROSS A STAFF REPORT FOR THIS CASE.
I WAS THUNDERSTRUCK THAT THEIR RATIONALE FOR RECOMMENDING A DENIAL SO CLOSELY ALIGNS WITH THE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK WE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTING TO YOU SINCE MID-DECEMBER.
UH, DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE? WE DO.
FIRST IS MR. ANTHONY VERDUCCI TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. DENISE VERDUCCI.
HOW YOU DOING? ANTHONY VERDUCCI? 27 42.
YEP, YOU WANTED TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO HIM.
SO THAT'LL GIVE YOU FOUR MINUTES, SIR.
UH, ANTHONY VERDUCCI 27 42 PEBBLE BREEZE.
UM, FIRST OFF, WE APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY TOOK TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT WITH THE RESIDENTS LAST WEEK.
UM, WE ARE DEFINITELY AGAINST THE CAR WASH FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
FIRST REASON THE NOISE INCREASE, ALTHOUGH THE STUDY INDICATES THAT, THAT THEY DID, SAID THAT IT'LL ONLY GO ONE TO TWO DECIBELS TO INCREASE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE ARE SITTING, WE CURRENTLY ARE BETWEEN 56 TO 65 DECIBELS DURING THE DAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO, OR THEY SPOKE ABOUT PUTTING IN VACUUMS AND A WALL.
UH, WE ALL HAVE EIGHT FOOT CONCRETE WALLS BEHIND OUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, IT DOES WHAT IT CAN, BUT IT DOESN'T STOP THE NOISE.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE SAID, UH, LAST WEEK IN OUR CALL THAT THEY WOULD USE QUIETER MACHINES AND ADD A SIX FOOT CONCRETE WALL.
UH, BUT THEY DIDN'T CONFIRM THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THOSE THINGS IN THE MEETING.
SO I DID HEAR 'EM SAY THAT TODAY, UH, THREE OF THE HOMES THAT DO BACK UP TO THE PROPERTY HAVE RESIDENTS
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THAT WORK FROM THE HOUSE.THE NOISE WOULD DEFINITELY, UH, YOU KNOW, STOP THEM FROM WORKING OR DEFINITELY BE INTRUSIVE TO THEM.
UM, LIGHTING, THE INCREASED LIGHTING AT NIGHT, UH, AS LATE AS 9:00 PM UH, TO THE, UH, RESIDENTS THAT LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
WE ALREADY HAVE THE LIGHTINGS FROM HEB ACROSS THE STREET PLUS THE MCDONALD'S PLUS THE SEVEN 11.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, OUR HOUSE IS LIT UP AS IT IS.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE LIGHTING.
UH, DEFINITELY TRAFFIC ISSUES.
UM, ADDING ANOTHER ENTRANCE AND AN EXIT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SEVERAL OTHER BUSINESSES.
UM, WE HAVE ACCIDENTS THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
PEOPLE COME IN, THEY BLOCK THE TRAFFIC, THEY DRIVE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY MAKE U-TURNS IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
UM, THANK GOD MY KIDS ARE OLDER BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STILL MAKING U-TURNS AND COMING IN.
UM, WE HAVE A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT RUNS ALONG THE HOUSE IN BETWEEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A WATER ISSUE? 'CAUSE I'M RIGHT ON THE CORNER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE OPPOSING TO DO BECAUSE THE WAY THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS BUILT, EVERYTHING RUNS DOWN THE STREET AND GOES IN BETWEEN THE HOUSES AND COMES RIGHT OUT RIGHT WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT IT.
UM, ANOTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF CAR WASHES.
I KNOW HE SAID THAT THEY'RE NOT LIKE THE ONES HE'S BUILDING, BUT THEY, WITHIN A HALF A MILE THERE'S SEVEN.
WHETHER YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH 'EM OR GET OUT AND WASH YOURSELF A CAR WASH IS A CAR WASH, ANOTHER CAR WASH ISN'T NEEDED.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN WITH ALL OF US.
UH, AND OPERATION TIME'S GONNA BE FROM 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM UM, THAT'S, NOBODY WANTS A WASH CAR AT 9:00 PM I MEAN, I'M JUST AFRAID THAT THE, I CAN'T EVEN SIT IN MY BACKYARD NOW BECAUSE OF THE ROAD NOISE.
I DON'T WANNA HEAR ALL THE VACUUMS AND THE CARS RUNNING AND THE MUSIC AND ARGUING AND ACCIDENTS.
SO WE ARE DEFINITELY AGAINST THIS, UM, CAR WASH GOING IN.
I KNOW IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THEM, BUT I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT GOOD FOR US.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, NO FURTHER FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THEIR TIME.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US TO, TO HEAR THESE CONCERNS.
SO I'LL JUST TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THESE THAT MAYBE I DIDN'T TOUCH ON BEFORE.
UM, WITH THIS EIGHT FOOT WALL, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE A TWO STORY, UM, PLATFORM.
I MEAN, NO ONE'S GONNA BE ABOVE GROUND LEVEL, SO THERE WON'T BE ANYONE LOOKING THROUGH AN EIGHT FOOT, UH, BLOCK WALL.
UM, SO PRIVACY, UM, IN FACT IT'LL JUST BE ENHANCED.
I BELIEVE A LOT OF IT IS A FENCE.
UM, UH, SAFETY CONCERNS, UH, WELL, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT.
WE'RE IMPROVING, UH, THE ACCESS.
UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING IT FARTHER AWAY FROM THE EXISTING ACCESS, SO THAT'LL JUST ALLOW FOR BETTER SPACING, UH, WHICH I KNOW IS IMPORTANT TO THE CI THE CITY ENGINEERS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO US TO JUST TO HAVE BETTER SPACING THERE FOR THE ACCESS.
UM, UH, ONSITE PARKING, UM, PARKING WAS A CONCERN.
WE'LL, OF COURSE, MEET ALL PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND I'LL BE, I'LL BE ONSITE.
PARKING WILL BE, UH, PROVIDED, OF COURSE, UH, WATER, DROUGHT, THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG CONCERN.
UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A BACKGROUND IN, IN WATERSHED SCIENCE, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS WELL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DROUGHT RESTRICTION REQUIREMENTS HERE FOR THE COUNTY, IT ACTUALLY REQUIRES YOU, WHEN YOU'RE IN A STAGE THREE DROUGHT CONDITION OR ABOVE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY PROHIBITED FROM WASHING A CAR IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA WASH YOUR CAR, YOU SHOULD GO TO A FACILITY LIKE OURS THAT ACTUALLY STATES THAT IN THERE, A FACILITY THAT RECLAIMED YOUR WATER.
SO WE, WE USE A LITTLE MORE THAN A, A SHOWER, THE AMOUNT OF WATER BECAUSE WE RECLAIM MOST OF THE WATER.
UM, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF BENEFITS TO THAT.
YEAH, THERE, THERE IS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT CUTS RIGHT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT COMES RIGHT INTO OUR ACCESS.
WE'LL, OF COURSE, WORK THROUGH THAT WHOLE CIVIL APPROVAL PROCESS WITH THE CITY.
UM, AND IF WE CAN'T RESOLVE IT, WE WON'T GET A BUILDING PERMIT.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE WILL WORK ON THE GRADING, THE DRAINAGE, THE EASEMENTS.
UM, IN FACT, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE IN A MUCH BETTER SITUATION THAN IT WAS WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY DEVELOPED.
NOW WITH, WITH NEW DATA, BETTER DATA, UM, BETTER MODELING.
UM, SO, UH, DRAINAGE WON'T BE A CONCERN.
WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE TO RESOLVE THAT IF WE WANT TO BUILDING PERMIT, UM, MUSIC AND NOISE AND ALL THAT.
UM, WE USUALLY HAVE SIGNS OUT IN OUR VACUUM AREAS TO NOT PLAY MUSIC.
WE HAVE STAFF ON SITE AT ALL TIMES DURING OPERATING HOURS.
SO WE CAN, IF, IF THERE'S DISTURBANCE WE
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REMOVE THAT, IT HAS TO BE A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS OR THEY WON'T COME BACK.SO WE WANT THIS TO BE A WELL-FUNCTIONING, UH, A GOOD, IT HAS TO BE AN EXCELLENT CAR WASH.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL.
UM, I BELIEVE I TOUCHED ON EVERYTHING.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION? ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. NELSON.
UM, WE WILL HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS POTENTIALLY FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
AND WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO COMMISSIONER WITT AS THIS IS A DISTRICT 10 CASE.
THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING OUT, UH, TO SPEAK AND, UH, THIS HAS DRUG OUT AND, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME KIND OF EARLY ON LACK OF COMMUNICATION.
UM, AND, UM, I JUST THINK WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE GOT HERE.
NORMALLY, I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH STAFF, BUT, UH, I THINK IN, IN THIS CASE, I SEE A LOT OF, UM, UH, GOOD REASONING IN FROM STAFF'S ARGUMENTS, UH, FOR THIS DENIAL IN THIS CASE.
UM, ONE THING MR. NELSON, I WANNA ADDRESS IS YOU INDICATED YOU'RE IMPROVING THE ACCESS THAT I'D PROBABLY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, ARGUMENTATIVE POSITION WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE MOVING IT OVER AND WIPING OUT THE BIG OAK TREES AND JUST TAKING, BASICALLY OBLITERATING THE SITE.
AND WHILE YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT REPLACING TREES OR MI MEETING, PAYING MITIGATION FEES, BASED ON WHAT I CAN SEE FROM THE SITE, THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT TREES BACK.
SO YOU'LL BE PAYING INTO A FEE, WHICH IS NOT GONNA NECESSARILY HELP THE NEIGHBORS OR THE PROPERTY, UH, IN THIS CASE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS COMPETITION, THAT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW.
WHETHER THERE'S LOTS OF CAR WASHES OR NO CAR WASHES.
UM, I, I THINK THAT, UH, I TEND TO AGREE WITH STAFF AND THE NEIGHBORS THAT IT APPEARS THAT Y'ALL HAVE ATTEMPTED TO PUT SOMETHING THAT IS, NEEDS TO BE ON AN ACRE SITE OR A BIGGER SITE ON A SMALL SITE, AND HAVE REALLY, UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO JAM IT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINES.
AND I DON'T THINK IT EVEN ADDRESSES.
UH, AND I'M GONNA ASK STAFF THIS UNDER THE ZONING THAT THERE IS LIKE A 15 FOOT, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT I UNDERSTAND NEEDS TO, UH, HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL.
IS THAT, UH, THE CASE KELLY? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO 15 FEET BUFFER WOULD BE REQUIRED, SO, BUT HE COULD GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO REDUCE IT, WHICH IS ANOTHER PUBLIC PROCESS.
SO IN THIS CASE, Y'ALL HAVE NOT EVEN ADDRESSED THAT ON YOUR SITE PLAN.
AND IF YOU DID PUT THAT THEN I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS PLAN EVEN WORKS BY ADDING ANOTHER 15 FEET BEFORE YOU DO THAT, UH, DRIVE ALONG THE BACK OF THOSE, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY, THOSE ARE KIND OF SOME INITIAL, UH, COMMENTS.
UH, I, I DO FEEL LIKE THERE WILL BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON, UH, ADJACENT NEIGHBORS WITH THE LAND.
AND TYPICALLY, UH, C TWO, WHICH THIS HAS BEEN ITS OWN C TWO, IS USED AS A BUFFER FOR MORE AGGRESSIVE COMMERCIAL NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND UH, IN THIS CASE, UH, YOU'RE TRYING TO KIND OF ADD AN ADDITIONAL USE.
AND THAT SEEMS TO, UH, ALSO BE IMPACTFUL TO THE RESIDENTS.
SO I'M GONNA LET THE REST OF THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE OR COMMENTS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT, COMMISSIONER.
QUESTION F UH, ONE OF THE APP, I GUESS ONE OF THE VOICEMAILS, SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A SER A CAR WASH BEING ADDED TO THE CAMILLA PROPERTY, I GUESS DOWN THE STREET.
IS THERE A WAY TO CONFIRM THAT THERE IS A CAR WASH BEING ADDED OR THAT IT COME THROUGH? I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SEE, 'CAUSE I THINK THE APPLICANT HAD MENTIONED THERE WASN'T A CAR WASH IN THE AREA, BUT BASED FROM MY REVIEW, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONE WITHIN A MILE RADIUS.
IF WE HAVE AN ADDRESS, WE CAN LOOK FOR A PERMIT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER KELLUM, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
MR. VERDUCCI, COULD I, IS IT VER ABSOLUTELY.
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FAR IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE PROPOSED SITE? THE LENGTH OF OUR BACKYARD.AND, AND ARE YOU STRUGGLING? SO I, I HEARD MENTIONED BOTH IN VOICEMAILS AND I THINK WITH YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TURNING AROUND.
ARE Y'ALL, Y'ALL HAVING ISSUES WITH THAT NOW? YEAH, THE WAY, UM, JONES MALTSBERGER RUNS FROM REDLAND ROAD TO THOUSAND OAKS, UM, AS THEY COME UP OVER THE HILL, THERE'S A, A LEFT TURNING LANE TO GET INTO HEB.
OBVIOUSLY THEY OPENED THAT, SO THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU'RE TRYING TO CRISSCROSS THERE, BUT THEN THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE THE LEFT ON THE THOUSAND OAKS AND FROM SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING TO ABOUT NINE, UH, MAYBE BY 8, 7 38 30.
FROM OUR SUBDIVISION TO THE RED LIGHT, IT'S BACKED UP BOTH WAYS AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CRISSCROSS FROM HEB MCDONALD'S SEVEN 11 THE BANK.
AND THEN COMING HOME AT NIGHT, I WOULD SAY I COME HOME AT FOUR.
SO BETWEEN FOUR AND SIX 30 TO SEVEN AT NIGHT.
THE POLICE DO SIT ON, UH, THEIR MOTORCYCLES AND THEY CATCH PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL COME UP THOUSAND OAKS, TURN INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS SOON AS YOU TURN IN, YOU GOT ONE, ONE HOUSE.
SO 70 FEET AND THEN THERE'S A STOP SIGN, THEY'LL MAKE A U-TURN, SHOOT RIGHT BACK OUT AND GET BACK IN, UH, AND TURN BACK OUT.
SO THOSE ARE MAINLY DURING THE RUSH HOUR TIMES MORNING, EVENING.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST BUSY BECAUSE AT HEB FAIR, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S CRAZY THERE.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THE MCDONALD'S, THAT POOR MCDONALD'S TAKES A BEATING BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO USE IT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET IT IN AND OUT.
AND THEY WANT TO GO RIGHT NEXT TO IT, WHICH WOULD JUST CALLS MAYHEM.
YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, DID YOU FIND THE ADDRESS? I DID.
IT'S UH, 1 6 0 7 5 HENDERSON PASS, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 2.
1 6 0 7 5 1 6 0 7 5 HENDERSON PASS.
NO, NOT, NOT THAT THERE'S ONE, UM, IT'S ON JONES BERG.
OH, IS IT? IT'S A BLOCK AND A HALF PAST THOUSAND OAKS ON THE LEFT.
AND HE JUST TORE DOWN THE RESTAURANT TO BUILD A CAR WASH.
I, THAT ACTUALLY MAKES MY POINT.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR FOR THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
UH, REFERRING TO YOUR SITE PLAN, SO I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS, BUT YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE GONNA CLOSE THE EXISTING DRIVE AND PUT A NEW DRIVE FURTHER EAST, CORRECT? AND THAT'S CORRECT.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER TO ABOUT 400 FEET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACCESS.
SO THAT GETS YOU AWAY FROM THE MCDONALD'S ACCESS? CORRECT.
AND THAT IMPROVES YOUR FLOW, INTERNAL FLOW IN THE PROPERTY BY PUTTING IT THERE? YES.
YEAH, SO THAT WORKS REALLY WELL FOR US, THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT THERE.
AND THEN DO YOU HAVE AN OUTLET ON THE NORTH? WHAT'S THAT NORTHEAST CORNER? DO YOU HAVE AN OUT ONLY? CORRECT.
THAT IS, WE CALL IT OUR ESCAPE LANE.
SO IF SOMEBODY COMES THROUGH THE CAR WASH, THEY COME THROUGH THE, THE STATION, THE PAY STATION, AND THEN THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE CAR WASH, THEY LEFT THEIR BIKE RACK ON OR SOMETHING IN THE BACK OF THEIR TRUCK, THEY FORGOT.
SO THAT GETS USED A COUPLE TIMES A DAY AND THERE'S AN EXISTING CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW THAT CROSS ACCESS IS ALWAYS GOOD.
LAST QUESTION IS, AS YOU'RE ENTERING THE BARN, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO PARKING ALONG THAT, THAT WESTERN EDGE, CORRECT? UH, BETWEEN YOU AND THE AND THE MCDONALD'S? IS THAT CORRECT? NO PARKING.
I DIDN'T THINK SO ON OUR SITE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER EZ ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER HUEY.
YEAH, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT UH, YOU HAD TAKEN SOME NOISE MITIGATION FOR YOUR, UM, FOR YOUR CAR WASH.
SO, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE AMBIENT, UH, NOISE LEVEL FOR YOUR OPERATIONS WITH THE VACUUMS? I THINK THE GENTLEMAN SAID IN THIS BACKYARD IS 65 DB.
SO WHAT IS, ARE YOU CONTRIBUTING? SO WE, WE ACTUALLY HIRED A CONSULTANT MD ACOUSTICS, AND THEY DO, UH, THEY DO NOISE STUDIES ALL OVER.
THEY, THEY DO ALL OF OUR CAR WASH WHEN WE NEEDED A NOISE STUDY.
UM, SO THEY ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND INSTALLED, UM, UM, SOME, SOME NOISE SENSORS THERE TO MEASURE THE ACTUAL AMBIENT NOISE.
AND CURRENTLY THE EXISTING AMBIENT LEVELS ALONG THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT WERE RED WERE 59 AND 58
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DECIBELS.OUR CAR WASH THE WAY WE WERE MODELING IT WITH THOSE ADDED FEATURES, UH, PRODUCE A NOISE LEVEL OF 56 AND 52 RESPECTABLY.
SO LOWER COMBINING THOSE, IT DOES GO UP, UH, TWO DECIBELS AND ONE DECIBEL AT THOSE RESPECTIVE LOCATIONS.
UH, BUT TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE, UM, TO BE A PERCEPTIBLE TO THE HUMAN EAR NOISE, CHANGE OF NOISE LEVELS, UH, THREE DECIBELS IS REQUIRED FOR IT TO BE PERCEPTIBLE.
SO WE'RE WITHIN THAT AND WE ARE STILL, UM, A FEW DECIBELS BELOW THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE FOR DAYTIME NOISE LEVELS, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, I'VE GOT ONE MORE FOR YOU MR. NELSON.
UH, YOU MENTIONED, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, BY ONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, CROSS ACCESS THAT YOU HAVE AN ESCAPE ROUTE.
UH, HAVE YOU READ THE DOCUMENTS? IS THE CROSS ACCESS ALLOW OR REQUIRE Y'ALL TO LET THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT THERE HAVE ACCESS THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.
YEAH, WE'RE VERY THOROUGH IN OUR REVIEW OF, OF ALL EASEMENT DOCUMENTS, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.
UM, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING, CURRENTLY WORKING WITH, UM, TOM KIM IS HIS NAME, UM, WHO IS THE OWNER OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY, ONE OF THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES FOR AMENDING THAT BECAUSE IT, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WILL RESTRICT ACCESS, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORS.
IT'LL RESTRICT WE ARE, WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING RESTRICTS ACCESS FROM THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO COME OUT THERE.
SO FOR THE BUSES AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, THEY WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS THROUGH THERE WITH THAT, WITH THAT AMENDMENT.
AND SO FAR THEY'VE GIVEN US A VERBAL, VERBAL APPROVAL.
WE'RE JUST WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS NOW TO ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE A THE TENANTS AND THE OWNER HAVE SAID THEY'RE FINE TO HAVE THEIR ACCESS CUT OFF THROUGH ALL'S PROPERTY, CORRECT.
YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FINALIZED YET, BUT THEY'VE GIVEN US THE VERBAL, WE ALSO NEED THEIR LENDER'S APPROVAL.
THEY'VE GIVEN US A VERBAL, SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE DETAILS RIGHT NOW.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ON MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE LAST CHANCE COMMISSIONER.
COMMISSIONER WITT, UH, TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND A POTENTIAL MOTION.
UH, MY DISCUSSION WAS EARLIER WITH MY COMMENTS, UH, AND UH, I JUST HAVE A, A CHALLENGE WITH WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE FOR ALL THE VARIOUS REASONS THAT STAFF HAS RECOMMEND MENTIONED IN THERE REPORT AND, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE POINTED OUT.
AND I AM GONNA MOVE FOR DENIAL AS STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER WITT WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT? YES.
I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, I THINK, UH, THE, THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, UM, TO HELP SHAPE THAT OPINION.
UM, I, IT, IT IS INTERESTING THAT IT, IT DOES APPEAR THAT THIS IS A TOO SMALL OF SITE.
UM, MY CONCERN IS, UM, THERE IS NO BUFFER.
YES, YOU CAN GO TO BOA HAVE THAT REDUCED, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, TAKING AN EXTRA LOOK BECAUSE IT REQUIRES THAT S DESIGNATION.
UM, AND SO TO ME WHEN IT'S LIKE, WELL, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA TAKE AN EXTRA LOOK, BUT WE'RE GONNA ALSO HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT, AT THE BUFFER TO REMOVE THAT.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE AWAY ALL THE TREES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS.
AND, AND YES, THE, THE NOISE LEVEL, IT'S ONLY INCREASING TWO DECIBELS.
IT'S LIKE, BUT IT'S ALL THOSE ADDED ON KIND OF INFORMS MY, UM, MY OPINION THAT, THAT IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT SITE FOR THE, FOR THIS PROJECT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SNIPES.
YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS AND ALSO I, I WILL, UM, BE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AND STAFF DENYING THIS, UM, ITEM.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BARDOS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.
UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
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ORTIZ? YES.ALRIGHT, UH, FOR YOU IF YOU ALL ARE HERE FOR THAT ITEM, UH, IT WILL STILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL BUT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
UH, I HOPE Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
GOOD AFTERNOON BRONTE FOR ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 9 2 0 8 THROUGH 9 2 2 6 NEWCOMB DRIVE GOING FROM MH TO C3.
ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
THERE ARE 30 NOTICES SENT, ZERO IN FAVOR AND TWO OPPOSED INSIDE.
200 FEET, ZERO IN FAVOR, OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND ONE OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE EXISTING MH DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT THE PROPOSED ZONING WILL INTRODUCE COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A BUDDING C3 ZONE PROPERTY, HOWEVER, THEIR ACCESS IS ALONG AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY FRONTAGE ROAD, WHEREAS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY'S ACCESS IS OFF A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UH, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE, AND AS ALWAYS, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND THE ADDRESS.
UH, ADDRESS IS 6 1 6 8 4 5 BLINKER ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
UH, IS THERE A PRESENTATION? PRESENTATION? DO YOU WANT MY USB? YES.
YOUR TIMER WILL BE RIGHT HERE.
UH, MY NAME IS MOHAMMED RAFFI.
I'M REPRESENTING OUR CLIENT WHO'S NOT HERE TODAY AND WE ARE LOOKING TO ZONE FOUR PROPERTIES FROM MH TWO C3.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE FOUR PROPERTIES ARE SORT OF IN A TRANSITIONAL ZONE GOING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
I WANTED TO PUT A AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY OF THE SITE SO EVERYONE COULD BETTER SEE THE WHOLE LAYOUT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE FOUR LOCATIONS, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE IN A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE ADJOINING OTHER C3 SITES OR C3 AND C TWO SITES.
AND, UH, THE LOTS TO THE SOUTH OF OUR DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO BE DOING SORT OF THE SAME THING THAT WE ARE GONNA BE DOING.
WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE THE, UH, TRUCKS AND CARS.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A MECHANIC SHOP.
WE'RE GONNA PLAN TO HAVE OUR CARS AND TRUCKS GO THROUGH LINCOLNWOOD DRIVE AND COME OUT OF NEWCOMB DRIVE.
AND THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE RIGHT OF OUR SITE BECAUSE IT IS A ROAD.
THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ABOVE OUR SITE BECAUSE IT'S A ROAD AND TO THE LEFT OF THE SITE.
BUT EVEN THOUGH IT'S, UH, LABELED AS MH, THERE ARE NO DEVELOPMENTS THERE CURRENTLY.
AND YES, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENTS THERE TO THE LEFT OF OUR SITE, TOP OF OUR SITE TO THE RIGHT OF OUR SITE.
OH, I MEAN, NOT COMPLETELY ADJACENTLY, IT IS IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
UH OH, ACTUALLY CAN YOU GO BACK? ALL RIGHT.
UH, THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER ONE.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE SOME TIME TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT
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TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC AND YOU GUYS THAT UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GONNA CAUSE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS.OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WAS THE FACT THAT THIS IS IN A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS LOCATION IS SORT OF IN A TRANSITIONAL ZONE GOING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
UH, AGAIN, THERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES LOCATED TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF OUR SITE, WHICH ARE MECHANIC SHOPS.
AND WE FEEL THAT ALTHOUGH THIS IS IN AN MH LOCATION, IT SORT OF TRANSITIONS INTO A LOCATION THAT CAN BE BOTH.
IT CAN BE MH OR IT CAN BE COMMERCIAL.
UH, UNLIKE THE 9 1 4 PINE STREET LOCATION THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT TODAY, THIS LOCATION IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS RESIDENTIAL ESTABLISHMENT.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE AS MANY PROBLEMS AS IT WOULD HAVE IF IT WAS LOCATED INSIDE DEEPLY OF A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT'S NOT SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY.
I MEAN IT IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT IT'S NOT COMPLETELY ADJACENT TO ANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UH, AS FOR THE NOISE, WE WILL, WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS AND EXISTING MECHANIC SHOPS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE NEXT TO THE HIGHWAY.
WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT IMPACTS THAN THE CURRENT SHOPS THAT THERE ARE THERE.
AS FOR TRAFFIC, UNLIKE OTHER COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES LIKE A RESTAURANT OR A GAS STATION, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MECHANIC SHOP.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA COME THERE, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SCHEDULED OR THEY HAVE TO MAKE SCHEDULED REQUESTS TO COME THERE.
SO WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE ANY DELAYS OR, AND HAVE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THIS RESIDENCIES.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL TO BE PLAYED.
I OWN 92 45 NEWCOMB DRIVE IN CONVERSE, TEXAS.
I'M CALLING ON CASE FOR REZONING Z AS IN ZEBRA, 2 0 2 4 DASH 0 7 0 2 4 0.
UM, I AM AGAINST, UH, REZONING.
UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A, A SUBDIVISION THAT'S NOT WELL MAINTAINED.
THE STREETS ARE IN HORRIFIC CONDITION.
UH, THERE'S ALREADY SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO OWN 18 WHEELERS THAT LIVE IN THE SUBDIVISION, UM, THAT, THAT KEEP OUR ROADS TORE UP.
AND I JUST CANNOT SEE THE SUBDIVISION HANDLING ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, I KNOW THAT WHEN IT'S REZONED, THE TAXES WOULD CHANGE ON IT.
I BOUGHT A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, NOT A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, AND UM, I AM AGAINST THE ZONING.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS MELISSA MARTINEZ.
AND UH, AGAIN, I'M AGAINST THE ZONING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, MR. RAFFI, ANY REBUTTAL? YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE.
COMMISSIONER WATSON TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
SHOULD YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD.
WHAT KIND OF VEHICLES WILL RECEIVE BE RECEIVING YOUR MECHANIC SER MECHANICS SERVICES? DIESEL VEHICLES, MAINLY 18 WHEELERS.
NOT THE WHOLE TRUCK, JUST THE FRONT PART OF THE TRUCK.
UM, STAFF, CAN YOU PLEASE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS CONFIRM WHAT THE DECISION WAS AT PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THIS CAME FORWARD AND WHAT THAT PLAN, UH, AMENDMENT REQUEST WAS? THE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL AND IT WAS, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT FOR THE APPLICANT.
PLEASE SIR, DO YOU HAVE, UM, ACCESS TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD I 10 FRONTAGE ROAD INBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD? NO,
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YOU DO NOT HAVE ACCESS.NO, WE SO YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS OFF LINCOLNWOOD? YES.
AND IS NEWCOM PAVED RIGHT NOW? IT'S NOT PAVED, IT'S NOT PAVE, BUT IT'S THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO PAVE.
SO NEWCOMB ROAD, IS THAT A ACCESS EASEMENT? IS THAT TO ACCESS THOSE PROPERTIES? IT IS NOTED AS, UM, IT'S PRETTY MUCH LIKE A PAPER STREET AT THE MOMENT.
SO IF THEY WERE TO DEVELOP IT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, FINISHED AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE TRAFFIC TEAM TO GET THAT DONE.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH PAPER STREETS SO THE OWNERS OF THOSE LOTS HAVE ACCESS TO A PAPER STREET, BUT IF THEY WANT ACCESS TO, IF THEY WANNA DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP THE STREET.
IT JUST MEANS IT'S, UH, LIKE AN UNPAVED, UNOFFICIAL STREET
IT IS A STREET IN ZONING TERMS. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ON MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER WOODS, WOULD THEY HAVE TO BUILD THE HU STREET OR JUST RIGHT TO THEIR PROPERTY LINE? THEY DON'T HAVE TO KEEP GOING DOWN, DO THEY? I BELIEVE THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO GO TO THEIR PROPERTY FOR ACCESS.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, UH, TO YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION IN ALIGNMENT WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.
I'M ALSO MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
UM, ALL RESPECT TO THE APPLICANT.
UM, WHILE IT'S NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL BLOCK, IT'S A SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERDEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UM, IT IS FAIRLY RECENTLY ADDED TO THE CITY.
UM, AS YOU'VE HEARD, IT'S AN UNPAPER STREET STREET, UH, WHICH ALREADY GIVES YOU AN INDICATION THAT IT'S NOT DESIGNED FOR THIS TYPE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, TYPICALLY IF YOU ARE IN A TRANSITION ZONE, AS THE APPLICANT POINTED OUT, UM, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND ZONING THAT ARE USED AS TRANSITIONS ARE NOT C3, CERTAINLY NOT MECHANIC SHOPS FOR 18 WHEELERS.
UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE EXISTING MECHANIC SHOPS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO A HIGHWAY FRONTAGE ROAD ALREADY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THIS BEING THAT MUCH CLOSER TO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UM, WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE FOR THIS TYPE OF VEHICLE ALREADY, UM, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT ACCESS IS GONNA BE OFF A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET, UM, IS A CONCERN.
UM, AND FOR THOSE REASONS I'M MAKING THE MOTION FOR DENIAL.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT.
THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIPES.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR DENIAL.
YOU ARE HEADING TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN PLEASE.
MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 24 35 3 OH CITY ROAD, GOING FROM C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT TO OUR FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 18 NOTICES SENT OUT.
AND THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED C TWO NA, COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT AND C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THE EXISTING C TWO A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE REQUEST TO REZONE IS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE BEING LOCATED WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR WITH INDUSTRIAL USES.
STAFF FINDS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THOUGH THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL ZONE PROPERTIES IN PROXIMITY.
THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE LOCATED WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK TO THE NORTH.
THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THE BLOCK, HOWEVER, IT IS NON-CONFORMING.
THUS INTRODUCING THE PROPOSED R FOUR ZONE WOULD PRODUCE A CONFLICT OF USES, WHICH IS DISCOURAGED BY BASIC LAND USE PRINCIPLES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MR. ALONSO, IF YOU WOULD COME UP
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MARK ALONSO 24 35 FRI CITY ROAD.IF YOU WOULD, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.
UH, SO, UH, PRETTY MUCH LIKE LAST TIME, UM, MY FATHER WANTS TO BUILD A HOUSE FOR MY SISTER GIVING THAT HE'S OLDER ALREADY.
UM, HE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE HE HAS, UM, SHE HAS, UM, A HOUSE FOR HER AND HER THREE KIDDOS.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHY WE WANTED TO DO A RESIDENTIAL.
UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL TO BE PLAYED.
MY RESIDENCE IS TWO 14 WEST ACADEMY SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 6 IN DISTRICT FIVE FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UH, I AM PRESIDENT OF THE THOMPSONS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I'M CALLING IN RESPONSE TO ZONING CASE 3 2 7, UH, WITH A ME ADDRESS OF 24 35 3 OH CITY ROAD.
I'M CALLING IN RESPONSE AND IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING APPLICATION FROM A C TO NA TO AN R FOUR UH, ZONING DISTRICT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO RETURN MY CALL AT (210) 363-9160.
AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS.
MR. ALONSO, IF YOU'D COME FORWARD, YOU CAN HAVE A FEW MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL OR WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT'S TO ME, UH, MR. ALONSO, YOUR DAD CURRENTLY LIVES AT 24 35 RIO CITY ROAD? YES, SIR.
UM, AND YOUR SISTER WOULD, IN ADDITION TO TAKING CARE OF HER OWN KIDS, WOULD TAKE CARE OF YOUR DAD TOO, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW IT IS AT THE MOMENT, YES.
HOW LONG HAS YOUR DAD LIVED THERE? UM, 35 YEARS.
AND, AND THE ROAD THERE AT RIO CITY ROAD, DOES IT END AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO THE EAST? YES IT DOES.
THE ROAD DOES, IT'S, IT'S A DEAD END AND THEN, YEAH.
THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THIS TIME.
UH, I'M GONNA OPEN IT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT? YES.
UM, ON THE REPORT IT SAYS THAT, UM, THE THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
WAS THAT THE VOICEMAIL WE HEARD? YES, SIR.
UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE? OH YES.
COMMISSIONER, HE HOSA UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF REAL QUICK.
SO CURRENTLY IT'S ZONE C, WHAT WAS IT? C TWO CC TWO AND A C TWO NA.
AND THEY, SO THEY WANT TO GO TO R FOUR.
SO THAT, THAT'S A, JUST REMEMBER, THAT'S A DOWNGRADE OF A ZONING, CORRECT? IT IS A DOWN ZONING, YES.
UM, WE JUST HAD CONCERNS BECAUSE IT IS SURROUNDED BY THE COMMERCIAL ZONING AND WITH THE LOCATION THAT WAS STAFF'S CONCERN OF BRINGING IN RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES.
UH, IT'S GONNA GO TO ME FOR DISCUSSION AND MOTION.
UH, I DON'T HAVE TO SAY POTENTIAL.
I APPRECIATE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS IN FACT IN THE MIDDLE OF COMMERCIAL.
UH, IT IS, HOWEVER, ALSO WITHIN 200 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL USES.
IT HAS BEEN USED AS A RESIDENCE FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE AROUND THREE DECADES.
UM, GIVEN THESE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES AS I DID AT PLANNING, I'M GOING TO MOVE AND DO SO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
I'M COUNTING COMMISSIONER WATSON ON THAT ONE.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT.
SEEING NONE THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY ME.
UH, WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
I DO THANK THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR SUPPORTING IT.
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COMMISSIONER WITSON? YES.YOU'RE HEADING TO CITY COUNCIL.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEZA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS LOCATED OFF OF 2131 RIO CITY ROAD GOING FROM I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
FULL SERVICE WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 19 NOTICES SENT OUT.
UM, OUTSIDE 200 FEET THERE WAS ONE IN FAVOR AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED.
I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT L LIGHT NL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THE EXISTING I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY OR SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE IS APPROPRIATE THOUGH THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.
THE CURRENT I TWO DISTRICT EXCEEDS THE INTENSITY SUGGESTED FOR THE AREA WITHIN THE PORT SAN ANTONIO AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN.
THE PROPOSAL WOULD PERMIT A DOWN ZONE FROM I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT CREATING A NEEDED BUFFER BETWEEN INTENSES INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE SOUTH AND RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH.
THE CD CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS, A USE TYPICALLY ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN REQUIRED FOR CONDITIONAL USE ZONING AND ANY DEVIATION FROM THE APPROVED DOCUMENT COULD POTENTIALLY WARRANT ADDITIONAL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANTS ARE PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE CAN GET THE STAFF, I'M SORRY, THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD.
MY NAME IS AND THE ADDRESS IS 2131 RIO ROSE.
I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT VARIOUS SPANISH TRANSLATION SERVICES, WE DO DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK.
UH, MR. SILVA CRUZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TELL US, UH, ABOUT YOUR PROJECT, WHATEVER.
HI, I'M MARY ALICE SILVA AND I'M HIS WIFE.
UM, THIS IS A, A SMALL BUSINESS LIKE FAMILY OWNED.
SO, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO RELOCATE.
WE, WE INITIALLY HAVE OUR BUSINESS GOING AS, UH, SILVA AUTO SALES, LLC.
AND WE'VE BEEN IN IT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT NOW WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY SO WE COULD DO OUR BUSINESS THERE.
BUT IT'S, WE'RE DOWNGRADING FROM THE, WHAT IS IT? I ONE, I ONE TO THE C TWO.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, 'CAUSE WE BUY CARS FROM THE AUCTION AND WE, HE FIXES 'EM AND WE SELL 'EM AND, BUT IT'S JUST ME AND HIM, SO.
LIKE SHE SAID, IT'S A FAMILY BUSINESS, IT'S A SMALL BUSINESS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE WORKING AS A FAMILY.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TELL US? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
BEFORE WE GET TO QUE SEE NO, NO.
I JUST WANNA KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
BEFORE WE GET TO OUR QUESTIONS, IF WE HAVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
I LIVE ON 22 19 9, ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 6.
I'M CALLING ON THE, UH, ON THE ZONING OF D 2 0 2 4 1 0 7 0 0 3 3 0 CD.
UH, I LIVE ACROSS FROM, FROM THAT, UH, ZONING AREA.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, I,
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I OPPOSE, I OPPOSE IT, UH, THE REZONING ONLY BECAUSE IT IS, IT'S AN EYESORE AND OUR FENCING THAT, THAT'S FACING ME, IT'S ALL BROKEN DOWN AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE, EVERYBODY WORKING THERE OR WHATEVER, ALL THE TRASH THAT THEY HAVE WITH THEIR CARS.BUT, UM, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY NICE FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ALSO, I DON'T KNOW, UH, LIKE THE, LIKE THEY, THEY, HOW THEY GET RID OF THEIR OIL OR, OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FIXING OVER THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO CONTAMINATE ANYTHING IN OUR AREA.
UH, BUT I, FROM MY RE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I, WE WOULD NEED A NEW, UH, FENCE BUILT, UH, BEFORE THEY CAN REZONE AND THEY CAN DO THEIR, THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO SEE ALL THEIR, ALL THEIR CARS BEING WORKED ON.
SO, UH, FOR ME, I WOULD OPPOSE IT RIGHT NOW UNLESS THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT UP A NEW FENCE ALL ALONG BECAUSE IT LOOKS VERY TRASHY AND WE DON'T, I DON'T WANT THAT FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS LUISA RODRIGUEZ AND MY ADDRESS IS 2211 RE SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 6.
AND MY ZONING NUMBER IS V 2 2 2 4 1 0 7 0 3 3 0 CD.
AND I WAS, UH, CALLING TO OPPOSE ON THE REZONING THAT THEY WANT TO DO, UH, THAT'S GONNA AFFECT OUR SUBDIVISION.
AND I'M OPPOSING 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED ANOTHER, UH, A MECHANIC SHOPPER.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT OUR, OUR RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND HERE IS GOING TO USE THAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT.
IF THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MAKE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I'M CALLING TO OPPOSE OF IT.
IF YOU CAN GET BACK WITH ME AT 2 1 0 7 7 2 3 5 7 9.
HELLO, MY NAME IS PATRICIA, A FAD.
MY ADDRESS IS 3 3 1 5 GAIA DULUTH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO SIX.
I AM CALLING UH, REGARDING ZONING CASE NUMBER Z AS IN ZEBRA, 20 24 1 0 7 0 0 3 3 0 CD.
I AM CALLING, UH, I OPPOSED TO THIS ZONING CASE.
UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM MY COMMUNITY AND MY AREA IS WE HAVE LESSER MECHANIC SHOPS AND CAR SALES LOTS IN THIS, UH, AREA ON FRAIL CITY ROAD.
WE ALREADY HAVE FOUR TO FIVE MECHANIC SHOPS AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANOTHER ONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME NEWER DEVELOPMENT, CLEAN UP THE AREA AND HAVE THE OWNERS, UH, BUSINESSES TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY.
UH, LOTS OF 'EM DO NOT CUT THEIR GRASS.
UM, I HAVE A VISION FOR THAT AREA TO BRING IN NEW BUSINESSES, CLEAN UP THE AREA AND HAVE LESSER INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES AND BUSINESSES.
NO MORE BARS, NO MORE MECHANIC SHOPS.
WE NEED SOMETHING NEW, SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SOMETHING POSITIVE, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MAKE THE COMMUNITY PRETTIER AND, UM, NOT ANOTHER MECHANIC SHOP.
SO I HIGHLY OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING CASE AGAIN, I OPPOSED TO IT.
UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING, UH, THE TIME TO LISTEN TO MY MESSAGE.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
UH, MS. SILVA? UH, YES, MR. SILVA, CRUZ, ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY IN RESPONSE TO THOSE MESSAGES? UH, YES.
UM, RIGHT NOW IT HAS, WE ALREADY PUT NEW FENCING AND WE'RE GONNA, WE PLAN ON PUTTING THE, UM, WHAT IS IT? IT'S LIKE THE TARP OR IT'S GREEN OR IT, IT COVERS FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT.
AND ANOTHER THING, IT'S NOT A MECHANIC SHOP, IT'S, IT'S GONNA, WE BUY AND SELL AND FIX OUR OWN VEHICLES AND IT'S NOT A MECHANIC SHOP FOR THE PUBLIC.
JUST, I MEAN, TO LET YOU KNOW.
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AS YOU CAN SEE ALL AROUND IS MOSTLY COMMERCIAL.UH, THE RESIDENTIAL IS FURTHER BACK AND IN THIS SURROUNDING AREA, THERE'S NOT REALLY A WHOLE LOT OF MECHANICS.
AND, AND WE ARE GONNA BE DOING THIS FOLLOWING THE CITY RULES.
WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA DO IT ON OUR OWN.
AND WE, WE, WE ALWAYS KEEP OUR, OUR PROPERTY WELL WHERE WE'RE AT.
LIKE WE MAINTAIN, LIKE YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, LOOK RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALWAYS CLEAN.
WE, WE TRY TO KEEP IT 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE CITY TO FIND US
ACTUALLY, UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT IS TO ME FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO ONE THING YOU MENTIONED IS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY PUT UP A FENCE, CORRECT? MM-HMM
ON YOUR SITE PLAN, IT INDICATES, AND IS THIS A PICTURE OF THE FENCE RIGHT HERE? NOW? I'VE, NOW I'VE MESSED UP THE ORDER.
IS THAT A PICTURE OF THE FENCE THE RIGHT NOW? YEAH, UHHUH.
BECAUSE IT DID, IT HAD ALL, UM, THE LUM ALUMINUM, IT HAD IT ALL LIKE ON THE, IT HAD, IT HAD ALUMINUM.
ALUMINUM AND IT WAS ALL, UM, JUST BEAT UP.
IT HAD A CORRUGATED METAL FENCE.
UM, NOW IF WE CAN GO TO THE SITE PLAN.
UM, AND SO IF WE LOOK AT THIS SITE PLAN ON THE BACK OF THE LOT, UH, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, SOLID SCREEN FENCING, CORRECT? MM-HMM
UM, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ABUT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL? WELL A PORTION OF IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, SOLID SCREEN.
'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, HALF OF IT IS R THREE AND THEN THE OTHER HALF IS INDUSTRIAL THAT THEY ABUT.
SO WE WOULD REQUIRE ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
AND IT IS INDICATED ON THEIR SITE PLAN AND IT IS INDICATED ON THEIR SITE PLAN, SO THEREFORE IT IS ENFORCEABLE AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE, CORRECT? YES.
AND STUFF THE CONDITIONAL USE IS FOR AUTO SALES? AUTO SALES, YES.
UM, WITH FULL SERVICE AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? FULL SERVICE? UH, TYPICALLY THAT MEANS THAT THEY CAN WORK, THEY CAN HAVE A MECHANIC ON SITE TO WORK ON THEIR VEHICLES.
HONESTLY, IT COULD BRING IN OUTSIDE VEHICLES.
KIND OF LIKE YOUR, UM, LIKE A TYPICAL DEALER YOU GO YEAH.
TYPICAL DEALER THAT OFFERS SERVICE.
UM, OKAY, THERE'S ANOTHER INDICATION ON THE SITE PLAN AND MS. SILVA, THIS WILL BE TO YOU.
UM, THAT INDICATES THAT THERE IS, UH, CERTAIN LIMITATIONS THAT ARE NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT? UM, WELL, AS I UNDERSTAND, UM, IF WE, IF IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED, UH, WE HAVE TO UM, I THINK IT'S 30 FEET, NO, IT'S 30 FEET WITHIN THE 15, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO READ YOU OUR, OUR PLAN WITH THE ENGINEERING SO WE CAN MOVE OUR BUILDING AND HAVE OKAY.
BUT I'M HOPING WE GET APPROVED
ALRIGHT, SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR.
RIGHT NOW THERE IS A REQUIREMENT OF A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND A 30 FOOT SETBACK BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOUR PROPERTY IS FROM THAT RESIDENTIAL USE BEHIND YOU.
AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS, WE ARE APPROVING THIS SITE PLAN? YES.
UM, BUT THIS SITE PLAN DOES REQUIRE THAT ADDITIONAL APPROVAL.
APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT? YES.
AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? YES, I DO.
UM, ONE OTHER ISSUE I WANTED TO ADDRESS WITH YOU, MS. SILVA AND MR. SILVA CRUZ, UM, IS, UM, ONE ISSUE WE FREQUENTLY HAVE WITH CAR SALES IS THE USE OF TEMPORARY, UH, BANNERS OR FLAGS, UH, TEMPORARY SIGNAGE.
WOULD YOU AGREE AS A CONDITION OF THE USE TO HAVE NO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE? NO.
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OKAY.UH, SO CAN WE PLACE AN, UH, SIGN ON THE BUILDING ITSELF THAT HAS THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS, LIKE RIGHT? YES, THAT IS FINE.
SO THAT WOULD BE A PERMANENT SIGN AND IT WOULD BE, UH, REGULATED BY THE CITY.
BLADE SIGNS IS WHAT I SEARCHED AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
SO WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AGREE NOT TO HAVE THOSE? YES.
I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS.
SO QUESTION FOR STAFF FOR THESE SIGNS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY'RE FREE TO PUT THESE ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY'RE JUST NOT FREE TO PUT 'EM ON ON CITY RIGHT OF WAY.
WE ALL UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T PUT 'EM ON CITY RIGHT OF WAY 'CAUSE OF SITE DISTANCE? UH, I MEAN IT'S, YOU CAN'T PUT NO, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THEM ON THEIR PROPERTY AT ALL.
AND THE REASON WOULD BE BECAUSE OF THE, OF IT BEING A CONDITION OF THE SITE PLAN.
SO THEY CAN HAVE PERMANENT SIGNAGE, LIKE THE SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDINGS OR LIKE A FREE STANDING SIGN THAT IS PERMANENTLY DONE.
BUT THOSE ITEMS WE CAN, WE CONSIDER TEMPORARY JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED A PERMIT FOR THEM.
BUT AS BUSANTE IS REQUESTING, HE'S REQUESTING TO ADD THE CONDITION TO NOT ALLOW THEM AT ALL.
UM, SO ARE THEY BOUND BY THIS SITE PLAN? YES.
SO QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT THEN YOU HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, I I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, WHAT ABOUT ON THE, ON THE FENCE, LIKE A PERMANENT LIKE TO WITH OUR BUSINESS NAME? LIKE, WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO THAT, BUT LET'S, OH, SO ON YOUR SITE PLAN YOU'RE SHOWING 10 SPACES.
ARE THOSE FOR THE CARS THAT ARE FOR SALE OR ARE THOSE FOR THE, FOR THE CUSTOMERS OR FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE? YEAH, BECAUSE WE USUALLY DON'T, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A SMALL BUSINESS, SO IT'S LIKE WE HAVE OMO FIVE, SIX CARS AND IT'S NOT LIKE IF I HAVE A OKAY.
LIKE THREE CARS OR YOU KNOW, LIKE I DON'T, WE DON'T.
THE REASON I'M ASKING IS IF YOU HAVE 10, 10 SPOTS, YOU HAVE 10 CARS FOR SALE, THEN I WAS GONNA ASK WHERE THE CUSTOMER'S GONNA PARK.
AND ONE LAST THING I NOTICED IS YOU HAVE AN EXISTING 30 FOOT ACCESS.
THAT'S A, IT'S A BIG COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY, HOWEVER I SEE A 20 FOOT GATE.
IS THAT, THAT'S, YOU'RE BOUND BY THAT AS WELL, CORRECT? YOU HAVE A 20 FOOT, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
LET'S SEE, ZEALAND, IS THAT YOUR PLAN? MM-HMM
OKAY, THEN THIS WORKS BETTER BECAUSE A 20 FOOT GATE ACTUALLY LINES UP TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THOSE PARKING SPOTS.
ALRIGHT, UM, ANY FURTHER QUE QUESTIONS? COMMERS ON MY RIGHT? UH, OKAY, SORRY, YOU HAD A QUESTION? GO AHEAD.
OH, YES, IF, IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO PUT LIKE A, A PERMANENT UH, UH, A SIGN ON THE GATE, LIKE, OR YOU KNOW, WHERE OUR, OF OUR BUSINESS NAME ARE WE ALLOWED? YES.
STAFF, YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT? THAT'S GOING TO BE DICTATED BY THE SIGN CODE AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PERMIT REVIEW.
UM, IT MAY BE ALLOWED UN AT A CERTAIN SIZE, BUT IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE.
UM, WE DON'T USUALLY SEE THAT VERY OFTEN, BUT YOU DO GET TO HAVE ON YOUR ONSITE, UM, SIGNAGE FOR YOUR BUILDING A, A POTENTIAL POLE SIGN.
JUST NO LIKE PENANT SIGNS, WHICH ARE LIKE THE LITTLE FLAGS YEAH.
ANY KIND OF FLAGS OR THINGS THAT BLOW IN THE WIND OR THAT CAN BE STUCK IN THE GROUND IN FRONT OF THE, THE PROPERTY.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER WHATSUP, THIS IS PROBABLY FOR STAFF, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY PROPOSED AND IT APPEARS THERE'S A ALSO A 30 FOOT SETBACK THAT RUNS, I'LL CALL IT NORTH SOUTH, RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY FROM RIO STREET.
YEAH, THAT'S NOT, YEAH, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, UH, QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UH, SO, SO NO FLAGS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT LITTLE AIR GUY THAT KIND OF GOES FLA IN THE AIR? NO
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NO WIND WAVES EITHER.INCLUDES NO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE MEANS NO PENANCE, WHICH ARE THE LITTLE, UH, TRIANGULAR FLAGS.
NO BANDIT SIGNS, WHICH ARE THE LITTLE SQUARE ONES THAT GO IN THE GROUND.
UM, NO WIND WAIVERS, WHICH ARE THE GUYS WITH THE WAVY HANDS.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEY ARE ALSO CLASSIFIED AS THE ONES THAT, UM, KELLY SHOWED YOU ON THE SCREEN.
I I GUESS YOU COULD DO THAT HER, YOUR OWN SELF.
MAYBE I COULD GET UP AND DO IT MYSELF.
UH, SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND STAFF.
SO THEY CANNOT HAVE TEMPORARY SIGNAGE UP IN THE FRONT, BUT THEY WISH THEY CAN PUT A PERMANENT SIGN THAT FACES, UH, TRIO STREET, RIGHT RIO ROAD SO THAT THE TRAFFIC, ANY PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMERS CAN SEE THAT THAT IS THE PLACE OF BUSINESS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO AGAIN, NO TEMPORARY, BUT YOU CAN HAVE A PERMANENT SIGN BECAUSE I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT IF WE TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN PUT A SIGN ON THE EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH IS SET WAY BACK IN THE BACK AND THAT WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO DRIVE BY AND SEE THAT THEY ARE A ONGOING, UH, BUSINESS.
THEY CAN STILL PUT ONE ON THEIR BUILDING AS WELL, BUT YES.
ANYTHING THAT'S A PERMANENT SIGN CAN BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF A SIGN PERMIT, RIGHT? SO IF I WERE DOING THAT BUSINESS, I WOULD PUT A PERMANENT SIGN BY RIO CITY ROAD.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT MR. CHAIR? YES.
COMMISSIONER BUTS? I, I KNOW I HEARD THE WORD FLAGS, BUT THEY, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO PUT US OR MEXICO FLAGS SO THAT THAT'S THE ONLY YES SIR.
NOT ANY, UM, FLAGS YOU CAN DO.
FLAGS OF NATIONALITIES THAT THOSE ARE NOT, UM, RESTRICTED UNDER THE SIGN CODE
ANY FINAL QUESTIONS? PLEASE SAY NO.
UH, SO IT IS TO ME FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOU HAD A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
UM, I HAVE REQUESTED THAT ALL OF THESE KINDS OF CASES, AUTO SALES AND AUTO REPAIRS, UH, ARE ON INDIVIDUALS SO WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE THINGS.
UH, AS YOU HEARD FROM THE CALLS, PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS KIND OF BUSINESS GOING IN AROUND THEM.
UM, AND SO I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT KIND OF LIMITATIONS WE ARE PUTTING IN.
ONE PROBLEM WE FREQUENTLY HAVE WITH TEMPORARY SIGNAGE IS IT GOES, IT FLIES OFF AND, YOU KNOW, IT CAN CAUSE LITTERING AND OTHER ISSUES HERE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M GONNA ASK FOR THAT CONDITION AND YOU'VE AGREED TO IT.
UM, ADDITIONALLY IN THIS CASE, UH, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A WEIRD LOT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND THAT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS A SEPARATE PROCESS TO IT AND YOU'VE INDICATED YOU DO.
NOW, ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'M ALSO GONNA RECOMMEND THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND AMEND YOUR SITE PLAN TO REMOVE THAT 30 FOOT SETBACK THAT RUNS STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT
OKAY? UH, BUT GET RID OF IT OR SOMEHOW INDICATE THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE THERE.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITSETT FOR THAT.
BUT NOW TO MY MOTION, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE NEIGHBORS THAT YOU HAVE.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL, UH, ALLOWING SLIGHTLY MORE INTENSIVE USE FOR THE AUTO SALES FULL SERVICE.
UM, BUT IT STILL IS OUT DOWN ZONING.
UH, FRIO CITY ROAD IS AT THIS POINT A PRETTY MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
UH, THE USES SURROUNDING IT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE R THREE ZONING ARE SIMILAR IN NATURE AND INTENSITY.
AND SO AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND, I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITION OF NO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE.
UH, COMMISSIONER KELLUM IS THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
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NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE NO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE CONDITION.
AND THE AMENDED SITE PLAN COME, UH, WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
MOTION PASSES WITH NO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE AND AMENDED SITE PLAN.
YOU ARE NOW HEADING TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AND WE HAVE ONE ITEM
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LEFT ON THE AGENDA.MS. ANY CORRECTIONS CHANGES? COMMENTS? LOOKING TO MY LEFT.
ANYONE CHAIR, MR. CHAIRMAN CHAIR I'D TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN, UH, BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY ACCLAMATION SAY AYE.
ANY ABSTENTIONS? HEARING NONE.
DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT?
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YES.JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT, UM, DEZ SENT YOU THE REMINDER ABOUT THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE FORM.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE TAKE CARE OF THOSE BY APRIL 1ST, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
WE'LL TRY TO CONTINUE TO REMIND YOU ABOUT IT.
UM, IT HAS DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO COMPLETE IT AND IT SHOULDN'T TAKE YOU, BUT A FEW MINUTES TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST TAKE A LITTLE BREAK AND, UH, FILL THAT OUT FOR US, WE'D APPRECIATE IT.
UH, I PREFER, INSTEAD OF REMINDING LIKE HECTORING PESTERING HARASSING, UM, BUT NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.
UM, IT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR US THAT SERVE ON COMMISSION, SO WE DO NEED TO GET THAT FINANCIAL INFORMATION.
AND YES, COMMISSIONER BARDOS, YOU'RE, YOU'VE DONE IT.
COMMISSIONER BARTOS IS AHEAD OF ALL OF US.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, PLEASE GET IT DONE.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THE TIME IS 3 0 7 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.