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GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

IT IS NOW 9 0 7 ON 13 MARCH, 2025.

UH, WELCOME TO THE SAN ANTONIO BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.

I'M DWAYNE NELSON.

I'M YOUR CHAIR FOR THIS MORNING.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

DWAYNE NELSON.

PRESENT JOELLE SLIS.

PRESENT, DR. LINDA LOPEZ RODRIGUEZ.

PRESENT.

KAYLA MIRANDA.

COURTNEY ROSEN.

THOMAS FRANKS.

GEORGE GRIMES JR.

PAUL HERNANDEZ.

PRESENT FRED ANDES PRESENT.

ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND LUCINDA OROZCO.

AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ALICE G**O, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER, JUDY KRUM, BSB LIAISON, TIZ DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST.

AND MYSELF, JENNIFER MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO CHAIR.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROVIDES TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ANYONE WHO MAY NEED THAT.

IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE THAT TRANSLATION OF THAT FACT.

UH, GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

PLEASE SIGN UP YOUR CELL PHONE OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, YOU'LL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.

HOWEVER, AN OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL HAVE UNLIMITED TIME.

PLEASE KEEP ALL INFORMATION RELATIVE TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE CODE VIOLATION AS ADVISED PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES, UH, FOR ANYONE NEEDING ASSISTANCE.

IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE MADE THOSE ARRANGEMENTS AS ADVISED IN YOUR NOTICE OF HEARING.

OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU'VE SUBMITTED THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PUBLIC, AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER OF A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASE IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE FOLLOWING.

NUMBER ONE, PROVIDE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.

DISCUSS YOUR DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITH COST OF EACH ITEM OUTLINED IN ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF A CODE OFFICER.

NUMBER TWO, SUBMIT THE REQUIRED PROOF OF FINANCIAL ABILITY TO PAY FOR PROPOSED WORK AND DISCUSS FEASIBILITY OF REPAIRS AND DISCUSS, UH, UH, THE FEASIBILITY REPAIRS DEPENDING UPON THE MONIES AVAILABLE AT HAND.

AND NUMBER THREE, REQUEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE WORK.

ALL ABATEMENTS ORDERED BY THE BOARD SHALL BE ENFORCED.

ALL WORK PROPOSED MUST BE DONE WITHIN CODE REGULATIONS WITH REQUIRED PERMITS PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE WORK.

YOU MAY OBTAIN THOSE PERMITS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED IN THIS BUILDING AT 1901 SOUTH ALAMO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4.

IF IN DOUBT AS TO THE PROCESS DURING THE TIME, PLEASE CONTACT A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

ANY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH THE ORDER OF THIS BOARD MAY FILE AN APPEAL IN CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THAT THE ORDER IS MAILED.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDER, PLEASE CONTACT A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF MEMBER BY PHONE AT (210) 207-5422.

PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON PRESENT TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

AS PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 36.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE HAVE

[ Approval of Minutes  ]

HAD MINUTES DISTRIBUTED TO THE BOARD PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.

CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THOSE MINUTES.

MR. CHAIR, THIS IS FRED ANDIS.

I MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS IS THE MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS DRAFTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.

SECOND.

UH, SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE MOTION OF ACCEPTING THE MINUTES AS DRAFTED? SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NAY.

THE MOTION IS CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TO PUT IN RECORD? WE DO NOT.

DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT?

[ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items  ]

GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS.

GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS ALICE GUDO, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS.

THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 4 9 ESSEX STREET IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO HAS VOLUNTARILY AGREED TO ALLOW THE CITY TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 15

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NINE, SECTION FIVE.

NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

OUR FIRST CASE THIS MORNING IS MORNING CHAIR.

UH, YES.

WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH, UM, 2 31 RANCH VALLEY.

I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN PLEASE.

WE ARE GOING BEGIN WITH 2 31 RANCH VALLEY.

OKAY, WE COULD DO THAT.

OKAY.

UH, PLEASE ADD TO THE RECORD THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE BOARD PRESENT.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS CRYSTAL TOWN DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURES BEING PRESENTED TODAY ARE LOCATED AT 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6 1 6 0.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD.

PLEASE NOTE ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2024, A DANGEROUS ASSESSMENT RESPONSE TEAM INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED.

THE INSPECTION IS A COLLABORATED INSPECTION WITH A VARIETY OF CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT INCLUDED THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 1 5 1 5 0 BLOCK 0 4 8, LOT 23, LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS GOMEZ HENRY JR.

AND GOFF HEATHER NICOLE, WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 8 5 4 3 TEXAS 1 51, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 5.

THE OWNER IS PRESENT TODAY, HOWEVER, HE WILL NOT BE SPEAKING.

UM, THE ATTORNEY, NATHAN GAY CASE, WILL BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY.

SAN ANTONIO POLICE OFFICER GOMEZ IS ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY AND A SANDRA BUTCHER THAT IS THE REPRESENTATION OF SALTILLO COMPANY, WHICH IS THE LENDER COMPANY IS ALSO HERE.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON JANUARY 13TH, 2025.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE ORIGINAL INSPECTION REGARDING 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE WAS CONDUCTED ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2024 ON FEBRUARY 28TH, 2025.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE ON FEBRUARY 26TH, 2025.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO HENRY GOMEZ, JR.

AND HEATHER NICOLE GOFF.

THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED ON, CLAIMED ON MARCH 3RD, 2025.

ON FEBRUARY 6TH, 2025, A RESIDENTIAL FENCE PERMIT, A RESIDENTIAL REPAIR PERMIT, UH, WAS OBTAINED FOR THE PROPERTY.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN 1000 FEET OF VALLEY HIGH ELEMENTARY AND RAYBURN MIDDLE SCHOOL.

A NOTICE TO VACATE WAS POSTED ON DECEMBER 10TH, 2024 AND THE POWER WAS DISCONNECTED FROM THE METER ON JANUARY 2ND, 2025.

THIS IS THE PLOT PLAN OF THE PROPERTY.

THE MAIN STRUCTURE IS LOCATED ON THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS LOCATED TOWARDS THE REAR PROPERTY.

SO THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

AN INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED AT NIGHT DUE TO THE ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS AT THE PROPERTY AT NIGHT.

UM, THERE IS PARTIES THAT ARE HAPPENING.

UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, POSTS ADVERTISEMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND CHARGES ADMISSION IN SELLS ALCOHOL.

DO HAVE AFTER HOUR PARTIES AT THE LOCATION.

AND THIS IS LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

AGAIN, IT IS DARK, SO I DO APOLOGIZE.

UM, BUT THE WINDOW DOES HAVE BURGLAR BARS ON IT POSING AN EGRESS ISSUE.

SO THIS IS TAKEN FROM ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER DID BUILD A BRAND NEW PRIVACY FENCE WITHOUT, UH, PERMITS TO TRY TO GET MORE PRIVACY FOR WHEN HE DOES HAVE THE PARTIES.

AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, IT IS DARK.

WE DID DO THIS AT NIGHT.

THIS IS THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, THE PROPERTY IS A CORNER LOT AND IT BACKS UP TO A VACANT LOT.

SO HE BUILT A EIGHT FOOT FENCE AND WAS CHARGING THE ADMISSION TO GO THROUGH THAT GATE.

ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

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THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THERE ARE PORTIONS OF THE TRANSIT SIDING THAT IS MISSING ON THE LEFT AREA OF THE WIND WHERE THE WINDOWS ARE AND THE AC UNIT.

UM, IT HAS, THERE HAS BEEN WINDOWS THAT WERE REPLACED WITHOUT PERMITS.

AND THEN THIS IS THE, UH, RIGHT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE.

THERE IS A LARGE ELECTRICAL CORD BEING RAN FROM THE METER, UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO A FOOD TRUCK THAT WILL BE SHOWN LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

SO THIS IS GOING INTO THE FRONT DOOR.

THE FLOOR COVERING IS MISSING.

THERE IS A DANCING POOL INSTALLED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LIVING ROOM, AND THERE IS A DJ.

THERE'S DJ EQUIPMENT, UM, INSTALLED IN THAT CORNER.

THERE'S OVERUSE OF EXTENSION CORDS TO SUPPLY POWER TO THE DJ EQUIPMENT.

THIS IS THE GARAGE AREA.

A WALL WAS CONSTRUCTED IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE DOOR WITHOUT PERMITS TO CONVERT THIS AREA INTO A BAR AREA INSTEAD OF BEING UTILIZED AS A GARAGE.

UM, THE OWNER DID HAVE A VENDING MACHINE, A TOUCHSCREEN VENDING MACHINE THAT DID HAVE THC PRODUCTS TO BE PROVIDED.

HERE'S A CLOSER VIEW OF THAT TOUCHSCREEN OF THAT VENDING MACHINE.

AND HERE'S THE BAR AREA WHERE HE DID HAVE ALCOHOL FOR SALE.

THIS IS THE BATHROOM AREA.

HE DID HAVE HIS PRIVATE AREA BLOCKED OFF.

HE HAD A DOOR ON IT SAYING EMPLOYEES ONLY.

UM, SO THIS BACK PORTION IS WHERE HE RESIDED.

SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER BEDROOM, AGAIN, JUST SHOWING THAT HE DOES RESIDE ON THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THIS WAS ANOTHER BEDROOM THAT HE DOES RESIDE AT THIS PROPERTY AND STILL HOLDS PARTIES ON THE FRONT PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE.

SO THIS IS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON THE REAR PROPERTY.

UH, HE DID BUILD THIS AGAIN WITHOUT PERMITS AND INSTALLED, UH, ALL NEW PLUMBING LINES TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO INSTALL TOILETS AND A SINK SO THAT THE CUSTOMERS WOULD HAVE A BATHROOM INSTEAD OF UTILIZING HIS BATHROOM IN THE STRUCTURE.

SO THIS IS THE RIGHT PORTION OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

SO ALL NEW ELECTRICAL WAS ALSO INSTALLED IN THIS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITH NO PERMITS OBTAINED.

SO HERE'S THE INTERIOR SHOWING THE TWO TOILETS THAT WERE INSTALLED ALONG WITH THE SINK.

AND IT DID NOT HAVE HOT WATER.

THIS IS SHOWING THAT THE, UH, WATER RED AT 71 AND CODE REQUIRES IT TO BE 110 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT.

THIS IS THE OTHER PORTION OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

IT IS JUST BEING UTILIZED AS STORAGE.

BUT AGAIN, ALL OF THIS ELECTRICAL WORK WAS DONE WITHOUT ANY PERMITS OBTAINED.

THIS IS ANOTHER ROOM OFF TO THE LEFT OF WHERE HE HAD ALL THE STORAGE, UM, NEW SHEET ROCK INSTALLED AND NEW ELECTRICAL INSTALLED.

SO THIS IS THE FOOD TRUCK LOCATED ON THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT HE WAS SELLING FOOD, UM, WITH NO FRUIT FOOD PERMIT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT, UH, SELL FOOD FROM A FOOD TRUCK IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THERE IS FOOD SITTING OUT, UH, DEFROSTING SHOWING THAT HE WAS GETTING READY TO, UH, SELL FOOD THAT LATER THAT EVENING.

HERE'S SOME MORE PHOTOS OF FOOD THAT WAS OUT DEFROSTING BECAUSE HE WAS GETTING READY TO OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

AND THIS IS SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE FOUND DURING THE, UH, DART INSPECTION.

UM, SAPD CAN KIND OF GO INTO DETAIL MORE ON THE CRIMINAL ASPECT, BUT THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WERE CONFISCATED THAT NIGHT.

SO NOW THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE POSTS THAT WERE PUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AFTER THE DART INSPECTION.

UM, HE, THE OWNER DECIDED HE WAS GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND TALK MESS ABOUT SAPD AND OTHER ITEMS, AND THAT HE'S GOING TO OPEN A SECOND LOCATION.

HERE'S ANOTHER ADVERTISEMENT SHOWING THAT HE DOES ACTUALLY HAVE EVENTS AT THE PROPERTY.

AND HERE'S A POST OF SOMEBODY STA YOU KNOW, JUST TALKING ABOUT THEIR GOOD TIME AT THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT IS SHOWING THAT HE DOES HAVE EVENTS AT THE PROPERTY.

THE STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE ARE IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6, 1 56, SUBSECTIONS EIGHT 12 AND 15 FOR THE MAIN, AND EIGHT, 12 AND 15, WHICH ANY BUILDING ARE STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HERE AND AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING IN A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION SUBSTANDARD ON FITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN

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SAFETY.

AND UNDER CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6, 1 60.

UNDER AUTHORITY OF TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 2 1 4 0.001 SUBCHAPTER A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE UPON A HEARING, A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE SHALL BE ORDERED, DEMOLISHED, VACATED, SECURED, OR REPAIRED, AND OR ITS OCCUPANTS RELOCATED IF FOUND TO BE DILAPIDATED, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION IN A HAZARD TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, OR REGARDLESS OF ITS STRUCTURAL CONDITION, BUT HAVING BEEN SUBJECT TO REPEATED CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS UNOCCUPIED BY ITS OWNERS LEASES OR OTHER INVITEES.

THE BUILDING IS UNSECURED FROM UNAUTHORIZED ENTRY TO THE EXTENT THAT IT COULD BE ENTERED OR USED BY VAGRANT OR OTHER INVITED PERSONS AS A PLACE OF HARBRIDGE OR COULD BE ENTERED OR USED BY CHILDREN, STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE.

THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTION TO THE CODE OFFICER? THERE ARE NONE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO ASK THE EXECUTIVE, UH, COUNCIL, CAN WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? ABSOLUTELY.

NO .

THANK YOU THOUGH, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU COUNCIL.

WE APPRECIATE THAT TOO.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

THE, THE TIME IS NOW 9 23 ON UH, 13 MARCH, 2025.

THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD WILL RECESS FROM THE OPEN SESSION AND CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO DISCUSS ATTORNEY-CLIENT MATTERS PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE TIME IS NOW NINE 30 ON 13 MARCH, 2025.

UH, THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD WILL NOW RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION.

NO OFFICIAL ACTION WE TAKEN IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UH, OUR NEXT, UH, PERSON UP IS GOING TO BE OFFICER GOMEZ.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR STATION PLEASE.

GOOD MORNING BOARD.

I'M OFFICER GOMEZ WITH THE SAN ANTONIO SAFE UNIT.

UM, I'M TAKING OVER RICHARD PRYOR'S POSITION AND YOUR STATION, PLEASE.

EXCUSE ME A SECOND.

THE STATION.

STATION SOUTH PATROL STATION.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

OKAY, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME KEY POINTS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER.

SO THIS LOCATION IS KNOWN FOR CONSTANT AFTER HOUR PARTIES WHERE THE ENTRY FEE IS CHARGED AND AN ALCOHOL IS DISTRIBUTED.

ARMED SECURITY GUARDS HAVE BEEN SEEN WORKING AT THE ENTRANCE AND ADVISE OFFICERS THAT THE OWNER WOULD NOT LET OFFICERS ENTER THE PROPERTY.

AND, UM, HE HAS SHOWN SOME, UM, SOME BELLIGERENT TYPE OF, UM, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TOWARDS OFFICERS.

THE LOCATION HAS BECOME A NUISANCE AND OFFICERS AND SERGEANTS HAVE APPROACHED OUR SAFE UNIT TO, TO HELP TAKE FURTHER ACTION WITH THE LOCATION.

SO IN A TWO YEAR HISTORY, THERE HAS BEEN OVER 134 CALLS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOLICIT ADDRESS.

17 OF THE CALLS WERE SAFE RELATED AS PATROL BUYS, I'M GONNA GET INTO THE, UH, NUMBER COUNT OF THE TYPE OF CALLS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AT THIS LOCATION.

25 DISTURBANCES OF LOUD MUSIC, FOUR DISTURBANCES WITH A GUN, THREE FLIGHTS, TWO SHOOTING IN PROGRESS, 16 SHOTS FIRED, HEARD TWO SUSPICIOUS PERSONS WITH A GUN AND TWO SUSPICIOUS VEHICLES WITH A GUN.

ON JUNE 1ST, 2024, A FEMALE WAS SHOT IN THE FOOT ON AUGUST 25TH, FIFTH OF 2024.

TWO SUSPECTS WERE SHOT ON A FAILED ROBBERY.

THAT ROBBERY ENDED UP UNTIL INTO A MURDER.

I HAVE THE CASE NUMBER IF NEEDED ON THOSE CASE NUMBERS.

ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2024, A DART INSPECTION TOOK PLACE.

AT THIS INSPECTION, THE LISTED ITEMS WERE RECOVERED.

1.1 GRAMS OF COCAINE, 47 OUNCES OF MARIJUANA, ONE MARIJUANA DISPENSER DISPENSARY ATTACHED TO A WALL, 31.5 OUNCES OF HEMP, ONE RUGER HANDGUN, ONE SMITH AND WESSON HANDGUN WITH 12 ROUNDS INSIDE THE MAGAZINE, ONE BROWNING RIFLE AND $3,400 OF CURRENCY WAS THROWN FREELY IN CABINETS, UH, NEAR THE MARIJUANA DISPENSER.

UM, ALSO TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, THERE HAS BEEN A BUNCH OF PARKING VIOLATIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, UM, ONCE AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT, UM, THE HOMEOWNER WOULD ADVERTISE ON SOCIAL MEDIA OUT TO, UM, MINORS INCLUDED ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR, UM, ADVERTISEMENT SPECIFICALLY TO, TO GO AHEAD AND JOIN THE, THE PARTIES.

BUT, UM, THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

IF CASE NUMBERS ARE NEEDED, I CAN SUPPLY THOSE.

THANK YOU.

HONOR THE QUESTIONS OF THE OFFICER.

PLEASE

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GO OUT AHEAD, PLEASE.

YOU MENTIONED MINORS BEING INCLUDED.

WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE OF THAT? UH, WELL, SOCIAL MEDIA IS OPENED TO ALL ANYBODY AND MINORS INCLUDED.

SO YOU'RE SAYING MINORS INCLUDED, NOT MINORS TARGETED? CORRECT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OF MINORS AT THE PROPERTY? DO I HAVE ANY EVIDENCE? UH, NOT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

AND THEN DO YOU KNOW THERE WAS A STRUCTURE IN THE PRIMARY BEDROOM, UM, NEXT TO THE DOOR THAT KIND OF HAD A MESH ON IT? WAS THAT CHILD RELATED, LIKE A CRIB OR OTHER ITEM? UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE SIDE OF MY PACK AND PLAY.

JUST ASKING, CORRECT.

YEAH.

UM, I CANNOT SPEAK ON THAT.

IT DOES, UM, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT IS FOR A CHILD, BUT OKAY.

THIS IS OFFICER TOWN.

UM, YES.

UH, THERE, THAT WAS A PACK AND PLAY THAT YOU SAW IN THAT ONE BEDROOM.

DID YOU SEE ANY OTHER EVIDENCE OF SMALL CHILDREN AT THE PROPERTY? UM, JUST IN THAT BEDROOM.

THEY HAD THE HIGH CHAIR AND THEY HAD THE PACK AND PLAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE OFFICER? UH, THIS IS FRED ANDES.

GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

NOW, YOU SAID THERE WERE 200 PLUS CALLS, A HUNDRED THIRTY FOUR A HUNDRED THIRTY FOUR CALLS ASSOCIATED WITH THE LISTED ADDRESS? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

SO 17 WERE SAFE RELATED? YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

DID I STAND CORRECTED ON THAT? UM, WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE, UH, I'M NOT GONNA SAY DAILY 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHEN HE, WHEN YOU, WHEN, LET ME PHRASE THIS RIGHT.

WHEN HE, YOU POLICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVES A CALL, THEY GO OUT TO THIS ADDRESS AND GUN REPORTED EXAMPLE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REPORTING THE GUNS IS THAT'S THE SECURITY THAT'S WITH THE GUN? OR IS THAT, OTHER THAN THOSE, ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT THE CALLERS? WHO'S CALLING THIS? YES, SIR.

THE ALL BA BASICALLY DEALING WITH LIKE THE WEAPONS CALL.

YES, SIR.

UM, SO THOSE CAN VARY.

THEY CAN COME FROM, UM, PARTY GOERS, PEOPLE AT THE PARTY OR FROM NEIGHBORS THAT ARE, UM, WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON.

WELL, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

ARE THEY CALLING BECAUSE THEY SEE THE ARMED SECURITY MM-HMM .

OR DID THEY SEE OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU CAN I THAT THEY IDENTIFY AS THAT THE PERSON WITH THE GUN, NOT THE GUYS WITH THE, THAT HAVE SECURITY.

UH, IT COULD BE BOTH.

IT COULD BE CALLING ON WHAT THEY SEE OF THE SECURITY GUARDS OR THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME, UH, CALLS FOR SUSPICIOUS VEHICLES WITH THE GUN.

NOW ON THE RECORD, IT SHOWS 11 15, 24 MM-HMM .

IS WHAT I SEE HERE.

YES, SIR.

A GUARD IS IS A TWO YEAR OPERATION.

YES, SIR.

SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON PRIOR? YES, SIR.

AND THIS IS ONLY THE EVENT THAT GOT IT HERE, CORRECT? WELL, I MEAN EVERYTHING THAT BUILT UP LEADING INTO THIS, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

BECAUSE DART IS A TWO YEAR PROJECT IN MOST CASES.

SO THIS WAS WAY BEYOND, UH, THE, THE TIMELINE OF THE 20, UH, 11 TO 2 25, 11 24 TO 2 25 IS LESS THAN TWO YEARS.

YES SIR.

THE CALLS I HAD MENTIONED, UH, UH, GO BACK TWO YEARS.

RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YES, SIR.

SO THIS IS NOT JUST THIS TIMEFRAME, THIS IS HISTORY AS WELL.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SERVICE OFFICER.

YES, SIR.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THERE WAS, UH, SORRY.

WE'LL BRING YOU UP AND, UH, COUNSEL, I, IF I'M NOT CORRECT, HE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO ASK THE OFFICER ANY QUESTIONS? UH, NO.

MR. MR. CASE AND NATHAN CASE, THE, THE ATTORNEY, UM, ONCE HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, IF, IF HE HAS SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE OFFICER OR THE CODE OFFICER, HE CAN, HE CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS.

WE, WE, WE WILL ALLOW HIM THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT GUIDANCE.

APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT GO RIGHT AHEAD? YES MA'AM.

UM, YOU MENTIONED 17 CALLS FOR SAFETY.

CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE WHAT A SAFETY CALL IS? UH, SEVEN 17 CALLS THAT WERE SAFE RELATED.

SO, UM, AS SAFE OFFICERS, WHICH IS THE UNIT I'M A PART OF, UH, WE TAKE ACTION THAT REGULAR PATROL CANNOT TAKE 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE TIME THAT WE CAN DEDICATE TO, UH, CERTAIN DISTURBANCES.

SO, UM, ANY TYPE OF LIKE LOUD MUSIC DISTURBANCES, WE'RE ABLE TO HOLD, UM, AN OPERATION WHERE WE CAN BE AT NEAR THAT HOUSEHOLD IN CASE THERE IS A, A LOUD MUSIC DISTURBANCE AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS IT.

YOU ALSO MENTIONED 25 LOUD, UH, SOUNDS OUT.

YES MA'AM.

UM, SO, BUT YOU SAID THAT SAFE COULD BE A LOUD SOUND DISTURBANCE AND THAT NUMBER IS LESS THAN THE LOUD SOUNDS.

SO WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND 'CAUSE I DON'T SPEAK PLEASE.

WELL,

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I'M JUST GIVING YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT, UH, SAFE CAN TAKE CARE OF.

BUT, UM, AS FOR THE 17 CALLS THAT SAFE TOOK CARE OF, I DO NOT HAVE THE SPECIFIC ON THOSE CALLS.

THANK YOU.

CAN YOU GIMME MORE INFORMATION? I THINK YOU SAID THAT EVENTUALLY ONE OF THE SHOTS FIRED, UH, WAS PERSONAL INJURY DEVELOPED INTO A MURDER CASE AND THAT OCCURRED PHYSICALLY AT THIS LOCATION.

CORRECT, SIR.

SO THAT WOULD GO BACK TO AUGUST 25TH, 2024.

IT WAS, UH, AN ACCURATE EVADED ROBBERY CASE AND UH, THE VICTIM IN THAT CASE ENDED UP, UM, PASSING AWAY.

SO IT TURNED INTO A MURDER.

THANK YOU.

AND WHAT WAS THE DATE OF THAT CASE? AUGUST 25TH, 2024.

I GOT A FOLLOW UP.

GO AHEAD.

THERE WAS ALSO AN INCIDENT WHERE A FEMALE GOT SHOT IN THE FOOT, CORRECT, SIR.

NOT RELATED THAT, THAT WOULD BE TWO INCIDENTS OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT OR NO? UH, WELL IT WAS NOT WRITTEN UP AS, UH, AN AGGRAVATED, SO.

OH, OKAY.

YES, SIR.

FINAL CHANCE, OR AT LEAST NOT FINAL CHANCE.

FINAL CHANCE THIS ROUND OFFICER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NATHAN KALE, UH, WHAT COLD OFFICER, THIS IS DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER CRYSTAL TOWN.

I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE ON SAFE.

IT IS ACTUALLY SAN ANTONIO FEAR FREE ENVIRONMENT.

THAT IS WHAT THE SAFE OFFICERS ARE.

SO THOSE 17 CALLS COULD HAVE BEEN TO ASSIST MYSELF IN GOING TO THE PROPERTY TO POST NOTICES OR TO SPEAK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, OR LIKE HE SAID, BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO PATROL BUYS, IT COULD BE THEY GOT A CALL FROM A NEIGHBOR.

SO THEY WENT BY THE PROPERTY TO VERIFY WHATEVER WAS BEING CALLED ABOUT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT SO YOU KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND DO WE HAVE THE DATE OF THE LAST, UM, CALL TO THE PROPERTY? YOU WOULD, I HAVE TO ASK THE OFFICER.

I DON'T HAVE THAT.

THANK YOU.

ONE, ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.

YEAH.

COME BACK UP PLEASE.

YEAH, ME .

UM, YES, THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF SHOWN THAT ADDRESSED A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES.

AND ONE TO SOLVE ALL OF, UH, PROBABLY A LOT OF THIS AND WHERE IT WRAPS UP IS THE CODE YOU USED.

WILL YOU TELL US WHAT THE ZONE IS OF THAT PROPERTY? SO ACCORDING TO BEXAR COUNTY APPRAISAL, IT IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL R SIX RESIDENTIAL.

SO IT'S NOT ZONED COMMERCIAL.

SO ANYTHING THEY'RE DOING COMMERCIALLY IS NOT, IT IS A ZONING VIOLATION, RIGHT? CORRECT.

UM, IT IS A ACTUAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

AND IT'S NOT BEEN CHANGED? NO, IT HAS NOT.

SO IT STILL HAS TO DO RESIDENTIAL? CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'M SORRY, ANOTHER QUESTION.

UM, LET ME, UH, BACK TO JOEL FIRST AND I'LL COME BACK TO YOU IF YOU COULD PLEASE.

JOEL JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ABOUT SERVICES TO THE PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE BEEN DIS DISCONNECTED.

YES.

UM, DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE WAS POWERING THE FOOD TRUCK FROM HIS METER, UM, IT IS AN ELECTRICAL HAZARD.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND WE DISCONNECTED POWER.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

OKAY, NOW GO AHEAD.

YOU SAID THAT WAS JANUARY 25TH.

THAT THAT WAS CUT.

IT WAS ACTUALLY CUT ON JANUARY 2ND, 2025.

MM-HMM .

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THE, CAN I HAVE ANOTHER ONE FOR THE POLICE OFFICER, PLEASE? SURE.

OFFICER.

UH, K UH, EXCUSE ME.

OFFICER GOMEZ, YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD AGAIN? YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, WHEN WAS THE DATE OF THE LAST REPORTED DISTURBANCE OR CALL ON THE PROPERTY? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.

NATHAN KALE, IF, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LAST NAME, THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT, BUT IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME YOUR CORRECT NAME AND YOUR HOME ADDRESS PLEASE, SIR NATHAN CASE, CACE SALE, KALE CASE.

CASE.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S CROATIAN.

WE PRONOUNCE IT REALLY DIFFERENTLY IN THE SLAVIC LANGUAGES.

DOES NOT FOR PURPOSES HERE.

VERY GOOD.

UH, MY HOME ADDRESS IS 1 26 CANYON CREEK DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 2 3 2.

I THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. CHAIR, JUST CAN YOU PUT THE MIC UP SO WE CAN HEAR YOU ON THIS IS, THIS IS LEGAL.

UM, WE DON'T NEED YOUR PERSONAL ADDRESS, MR. CASE, IF, IF YOU JUST GIVE US YOUR, YOUR BUSINESS ONE, SO THAT WAY IF NOTICE NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED, IT'S PROVIDED TO THE PROPER PLACE.

SURE.

MY, I, I HAVE THE NOTICE HERE FROM THE CITY, WHICH HAS MY OFFICE AT 6 6 0 9 BLANCO ROAD, SUITE 2 35, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 6.

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UH, THAT IS MY CORRECT ADDRESS.

VERY GOOD.

UH, AND GO AHEAD, RAISE THAT MICROPHONE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE.

VERY GOOD.

IS THAT BETTER? THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND IF YOU WOULD, YOUR TESTIMONY OR YOUR, YOUR COMMENT SIR? YES, SIR.

UM, I'M GONNA KEEP MY STUFF PRETTY SHORT AND SWEET HERE.

THE, UM, STANDARD BY 6.1 OR DASH 1 56 OF THE STANDARD ANTONIO MUNICIPAL CODE IS THE STANDARD THAT DETERMINES WHETHER THIS BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DEMOLISH MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY.

UM, FOR WHAT I'VE SEEN HERE TODAY, THE CITY HAS NOT MET THAT STANDARD.

UM, I'M NOT HERE TO ADDRESS ANY POTENTIAL CRIMINAL ALLEGATIONS ON THE PROPERTY.

I WILL SAY THAT ANY SUCH USE IS NO LONGER HAPPENING AND HAS NOT HAPPENED AT ANY TIME OF THIS YEAR.

UM, MY CLIENT IS FULLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL LAWS.

THE HOUSE IS IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION.

UM, THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE A REMAINING ISSUE WOULD BE THE ELECTRICAL STUFF, WHICH WE WERE NOT ABLE TO, UH, REMEDIATE PRIOR TO TODAY DUE TO THE RED TAG ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH PREVENTED A, UH, ELECTRICAL PERMIT FROM BEING ISSUED.

UM, IF THE RED TAG IS LIFTED AND WE CAN GET A A A A, A CONSTRUCTION PERMIT ISSUED FOR THE ELECTRICAL, WE CAN HAVE THAT FIXED WITHIN 14 DAYS, UM, FROM TODAY.

EVERYTHING ELSE PER THE REPORT HERE FROM THE CITY, NONE OF THAT RISES TO THE, TO THE LEVEL NECESSARY FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE.

UM, DAMAGED SIDING, INTERIOR SHEET ROCK ISSUES, UM, AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES ARE THE ONLY THINGS LISTED HERE ON THIS REPORT FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND, UM, THE DEFENSE ISSUE HAS BEEN FIXED VIA A PERMIT FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

FIXED, UH, AND INSPECTED AND APPROVED.

SO THE ONLY REAL REMAIN ISSUE WOULD BE THE ELECTRICAL, WHICH AGAIN, WE HAVE FIXED IN 14 DAYS FROM TODAY.

ACCORDING TO, UH, THE CODE OFFICER, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS CALLED OFFICER, SAID THAT THERE WAS AN ACTUAL SALE OF ALCOHOL AND FOOD AT THE PROPERTY.

WAS THERE INDEED A SALE OF ALCOHOL AND FOOD ON THE PROPERTY? I, UH, I HAVE NO IDEA.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT OUTSIDE OF MY SCOPE OF REPRESENTATION HERE TODAY.

TODAY, SIR.

VERY GOOD.

UH, WAS THAT ALL YOU HAD, SIR? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

UH, DID WE HAVE QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

UM, SIR, YOU STATED THAT THERE ARE NO PROPERTIES AT THE PARTY THIS YEAR, UM, AND THAT THE OWNER IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE.

MY QUESTION IS THE MOTIVATION FOR THAT COMPLIANCE SINCE IT HAS NOT HAD ELECTRICITY SINCE THE SECOND OF THE YEAR.

I WAS SURE.

THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT.

YES, MA'AM.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME AS PART, AS PART OF ANY, UM, RESOLUTION OF THIS PROCESS, OF THIS PROCESS TODAY, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM ENTERING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT NO SUCH USE WILL, WILL HAPPEN AGAIN ON THE PROPERTY.

I MEAN, IT, IT, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN.

AND WHAT IS YOUR STATEMENT IN TERMS OF THE COMPLIANCE INTENDED BY YOUR, UM, YOUR CLIENT SINCE THERE ARE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS SAYING HENHOUSE NUMBER TWO IS COMING SOON.

I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN COMMENT ON EITHER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH, THIS IS FRED ANDERSON.

GO AHEAD.

WHEN ALL OF THESE NOTICES WERE SENT OUT PRIOR TO GETTING HERE, YOU REALIZE THIS IS THE LAST RESORT ON THIS BIG TRAIN? YES, SIR.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN YOU CAME ON BOARD, THE NOTICES WERE SENT OUT AND POSTED AT THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THE TIME THEY WERE POSTED AND THE TIME WE GOT HERE.

WAS THERE ANY TYPE OF RESOLUTION OR OFFER A RESOLUTION BEFORE NOW WHEN YOU OFFER THAT YOU'LL AGREE TO WHATEVER, TO THE CITY STAFF PRIOR TO COMING HERE? I ONLY GOT NOTICE OF THIS HEARING TWO WEEKS AGO, AT WHICH TIME I DID REACH OUT TO THE CITY TO DISCUSS, AND THE CITY TOLD ME THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS IT HERE TODAY.

SO TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, YOUR CLIENTS NEVER MADE THE ATTEMPT TO REACH OUT TO THE STAFF WHEN THEY SENT THE LETTER OUT, GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO BEFORE IT COMES HERE? I WAS HIRED PROBABLY MIDDLE OF JANUARY, AT WHICH POINT I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO LET THE CITY KNOW THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT I WAS REPRESENTING MR. GOMEZ.

AT THAT POINT, I WAS TOLD THANK YOU.

WE WILL ADD YOUR NAME TO THE CONTACT LIST FROM THE, UH, CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT AND WE WILL NOTIFY YOU WHEN, WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS.

UH, AND THAT NOTICE CAME IN TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN I GOT THE NOTICE OF THE HEARING TODAY.

PRIOR TO THAT WE HAD NO REAL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

WE WERE AWARE THAT THE FENCE WAS OUTTA COMPLIANCE AND THAT WAS FIXED.

WE WERE AWARE OF THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES WHICH WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIX, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED IF THE, UM, RED TAG HAD NOT BEEN IN PLACE.

SO, I'M SORRY, YOUR CLIENT FIXED A FENCE WITH OR WITHOUT A PERMIT? WITH A PERMIT, SIR.

THE PERMIT'S ON FILE? YES, SIR.

AND THAT WAS DONE WHEN THIS CASE WAS OR THIS ISSUE WAS HAPPENING? THE PERMIT WAS PULLED, YES, SIR.

THAT HAPPENED THE LAST, WHAT, FIVE WEEKS? FIVE, SIX WEEKS.

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SO WHAT IS THIS OFFENSE NOW? UH, SIX FOOT WITHIN CODE APPROVED BY THE CITY IS ANYTHING OVER SIX FOOT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL PERMIT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WAIVER OR A VARIANCE.

I DO BELIEVE IT'S, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND YOU, AND I'M GONNA USE THE WORD ALLEGED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT, UH, WHEN THEY NOTE, PUT THE NOTICE ON, I'M ASSUMING DEFENSE HANDED TO THE PROPERTY, WHATEVER THE NOTICE WAS, IT GAVE A LIST OF CO OF VIOLATIONS, CORRECT? I DO NOT KNOW.

BUT YOUR CLIENT DOES, UH, BECAUSE HE GOT IT BEFORE YOU RECEIVED YOUR, BEFORE YOU HIRED YOU.

THE, THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE RECEIVED IS THE, IS THE REPORT HERE FOR TODAY, WHICH JUST LISTS THE SIDING, THE INTERIOR SHEET ROCK, AND THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES.

UM, I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT LIST WAS GIVEN PRIOR TO THAT.

I'M SURE MR. BURNS WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN HIS FILE.

UM, BUT THE, THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE AWARE OF AND ABLE TO FIX WERE FIXED.

UM, THERE'S NO MORE FOOD TRUCK ON THE PROPERTY.

THE ELECTRIC'S READY TO GO AND THE FENCE HAS BEEN REMEDIATED.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS, DID YOU REACH OUT TO THE CODE OFFICER FOR HER TO COME BY AND SEE, OR HIM, WHOEVER THE CODE OFFICER WAS AT THE TIME TO GO TO VERIFY? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING OTHER THAN THAT, NO PICTURES OF ANYTHING BEING REDONE OR DONE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

THE REASON WE DID NOT DO THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN I REACHED OUT TO THE CITY, I WAS TOLD TO ADDRESS IT HERE TODAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NO MORE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, JOEL.

DOES ONE MOMENT.

YEAH.

I WANNA ASK, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE, THE HOUSE.

AND WE KNOW THAT THE GARAGE HAD BEEN CLOSED IN AND NO PERMIT WAS IT PULLED FOR THAT WORK.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT WALL IS NOW TAKEN DOWN AND THE HOUSE HAS BEEN RESTORED BACK TO ORIGINAL CONDITION? THAT WORK WAS DONE PRIOR TO MY CLIENT PURCHASING THE PROPERTY.

UM, IF NECESSARY, WE CAN GET A, UH, A, A, A RETROACTIVE PERMIT PULLED TO, UH, TO IMPROVE AND INSPECT IT.

SO THERE'S, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY KIND OF ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO THE GARAGE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE CITY'S REPORT.

THE OTHER ONE I WAS GONNA ASK YOU ABOUT THE ACCESSORY WAS THE ACCESSORY ALREADY HAD THE, THE BATHROOMS IN THERE OR THE ACCESSORY WAS ACTUALLY REBUILT IN ORDER TO HAVE THOSE BATHROOMS TAKEN.

THE, THE REAR HOUSE WAS THERE.

I BELIEVE IT HAD ONE TOILET, A SECOND TOILET WAS ADDED.

UM, BOTH TOILETS HAVE BEEN REMOVED, UH, JUST PENDING, UH, APPROVAL AND INSPECTION FROM THE CITY, EXCUSE ME.

AND REQUIRING, UH, REGARDING POWER.

WAS THE POWER ALREADY THERE AS WELL? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

GO AHEAD.

UM, CAN YOU, YOU STATED AT THE BEGINNING THAT NOTHING PRESENTED MEETS THE LEVEL OF THE CODE CITED.

COULD YOU CITE THE CODE FOR US PLEASE? SIX DASH 1 56, THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE PLEASE.

, IT'S QUITE EXTENSIVE.

UM, THERE ARE 18, UM, 6.156 HAS 18 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, UM, THAT THE, THAT CAN BE GROUNDS FOR DEMOLITION A SITUATION LIKE THIS.

UM, OBSTRUCTED DOORS, UNEVEN WALKING SURFACES, UM, STRESS ON LOAD-BEARING ITEMS, UH, DAMAGED BY FIRE OR EARTHQUAKE, UH, POTENTIAL, A FAILURE OF STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY, UH, UH, UH, INSUFFICIENT ANCHORING OF OF ROOFS AND, AND WALLS AND SO ON.

UM, DILAPIDATION, UH, DETERIORATION, FAULTY CONSTRUCTION IF THE BUILDING IS MANIFESTLY UNSAFE FOR THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH IT'S BEING USED.

UM, EXTERIOR WALLS SHOWING LEANING OR BUCKLING, UH, FOUNDATION ISSUES WITH UP TO, UH, UH, 33% OR MORE DAMAGE OR DETERIORATION.

UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE MORE FIRE, WIND, EARTHQUAKE OR FLOOD.

WE HAVE 12, WHICH DOES GET TO STRUCTURE HAS BEEN EXISTS, UM, IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY'S MINIMUM HOUSING STANDARDS, WHICH AGAIN, MY CLIENT'S WILLING TO ADDRESS ALL SUCH ISSUES.

UH, MORE, MORE REGARDING, UH, INADEQUATE MAINTENANCE, DILAPIDATION DECAY DAMAGE, UM, OBSOLESCENCE, UH, IN A CONDITION TO CONSTITUTE A PUBLIC NUISANCE, UH, ABANDONMENT.

SORRY, WHICH ONE WAS CONDITIONED TO WHICH NUMBER? SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT IT AS WELL.

I'M, I'M SORRY.

WHICH NUMBER IS PUBLIC NUISANCE, UH, THIR, UH, 12 IS THE, IS

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THE, IS THE BUILDING STANDARDS.

AND, UH, TO THE EXTENT THE POSSESSES 15 THREAT, SORRY, 15.

THE BUILDING STRUCTURE AND CONDITION CONSTITUTE A IANS KNOWN COMMON LAW OR EQUITY JURISPRUDENCE.

AND YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT HAVING DRUGS, GUNS, GUNFIRE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA NEAR TWO SCHOOLS IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE? IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, SIR, I BELIEVE THAT ACTIVITY WOULD IN FACT BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

HOWEVER, THE, THE OFFICER PRESENTED INFORMATION THAT WAS RELATED TO THAT ENTIRE BLOCK, THAT ENTIRE AREA, NOT JUST TO MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY.

THE SHOOTINGS IN QUESTION, NEITHER OF WHICH OCCURRED AT MY CLIENT'S HOUSE, UH, WAS DOWN THE STREET LAWYER.

UM, THE, THE DRUGS AND GUNS AND MONEY CAPTURED WERE NOT AT YOUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY.

THE, THE DRUGS, MONEY AND GUNS WERE ON MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY.

UH, MONEY AND GUNS ARE NOT ILLEGAL.

AND THE, THE, THE, THE GUNS WERE RETURNED TO THE, TO THE OWNERS, THE CASH IS STILL IN THE POSSESSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

I HAVE NO COMMENT ON THE DRUGS 'CAUSE I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THEM.

AND SELLING ALCOHOL IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA NEAR TWO SCHOOLS IS ALSO NOT A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I PHRASE THIS PROPERLY.

I I WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A NUISANCE IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

UH, HOWEVER, ALL SUCH CONDUCT, IF SUCH CONDUCT EVER OCCURRED, HAS, HAS BEEN ABATED.

AND WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE THAT ALL THAT CONDUCT HAS BEEN ABATED DUE TO THE, YOUR CLIENT'S WILL AND NOT DUE TO THE FORCE OF NOT HAVING ELECTRICITY AT THE PROPERTY? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'VE, I'VE DISCUSSED WITH MR. GOMEZ.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT I GOT INVOLVED IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY.

UM, IF THERE WAS ELECTRICITY INVOLVED AND IF THESE ALLEGATIONS WERE GOING ON AT THE TIME I GOT INVOLVED, I WOULD'VE INSTRUCTED MY CLIENT TO IMMEDIATELY CEASE OR DESIST ANY SUCH, UM, CONDUCT.

BUT SO HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THERE WAS ELECTRICITY, I BELIEVE THE CONDUCT WOULD'VE BEEN, UM, ABATED AND BASED THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS OR MORE, AND THAT HAS ONLY CEASED ONCE ELECTRICITY WAS STOPPED.

WHAT ARE YOUR ASSURANCES THAT THIS ACTIVITY WOULD NOT START AGAIN IF ELECTRICITY WERE RESTORED TO THE PROPERTY? I HAD ADDRESSED THAT EARLIER IN MY POSITION.

HERE.

WE'RE ALLOWED TO, THE BOARD IS ALLOWED TO GIVE US A, A A, A CONDITIONAL ORDERS THAT SAY YOU WILL DO THIS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WELL.

YOU WILL DO THIS.

AND IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, WE CAN DEMOLISH THE HOUSE.

I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN PUT IN A WRITTEN AGREEMENT THAT IF MY CLIENT, UH, CONTINUES WITH OR HAS ANY SUCH ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HIM REGARDING THIS KIND OF CONDUCT, THAT IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF OUR, UH, REMEDIATION AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND WOULD PROVIDE THE SEAT OF SAN ANTONIO GROUNDS TO TAKE NECESSARY ACTION TO PREVENT IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU GOOD? OKAY.

UH, I GOT A FOLLOW UP.

GO AHEAD.

UM, YOU, YOU RECEIVED THIS, WHAT, ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO? IS THAT CORRECT? THE, UH, CITY'S REPORT? YES, SIR.

THE, THE, THE NOTICE YOU, YOU BECAME AOR AWARE OF THIS THREE WEEKS AGO WHENEVER THEY HIRED YOU FROM THAT POINT ON? I, I WAS HIRED MIDDLE OF JANUARY, SO I'VE GOT GOING ON TWO MONTHS NOW.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO THE TIME YOU GOT THIS, OKAY, WHEN WE COME TO HERE, ALL WE GET IS THIS AND THEN THE INFORMATION.

SO WE'RE BLIND JUST LIKE YOU.

ALL THE PICTURES WE JUST SAW AND THE PICTURES, YOU SAW THE SAME PICTURES.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING BY.

AND I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO LAWYER CLIENT PRIVILEGE.

UM, ALL OF THOSE PHOTOS AND WHAT IT SAID ON THE SHEET THAT YOU SHOWED US EARLIER, THE, UH, STRUCTURE CONDITION SHEET AND THEN THE FOLLOW UP SHEET, ALL OF THAT YOU'RE SAYING BASED OFF THOSE PICTURES IS NOT OR DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARD OF, OF THIS HERE.

COULD YOU CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION, SIR? I'M SORRY.

WHEN, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING, YOU ARE ON THOSE PICTURES AND THAT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU SAW THOSE PICTURES? YES, SIR.

THAT'S THE FIRST TIME WE SEE 'EM.

I, I'M GOING TO TO INTERRUPT THE, THE QUESTION BECAUSE THERE, IT WAS OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE IS THAT LEGAL HAS REVIEWED ALL CASES BEFORE THEY GET TO THE BOARD.

THEREFORE, UH, THE, THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING IS WE DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY BASED ON OUR GUIDE, RIGHT? OUR LEGAL GUIDE.

AND WHAT I'M ASKING IS ALL OF THE STUFF THAT WE GO BY AND THIS HERE AND THE TESTIMONY

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THAT YOU PROVIDED US, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN PICTURES ON THE REPAIRS THAT YOU STATED EARLIER.

WERE MADE ALL DEFENSES AND ALL THAT.

THE FIXES, THE SHEET ROCK, ALL THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

BUT WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF THAT OTHER THAN YOUR WORD.

IIII GOT MY OFFICIAL, UH, INSPECTION FOR MY, UH, TRUCK LICENSE INSPECTOR LAST NIGHT.

UM, I SHARED THAT WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO THIS MORNING.

I HAVE MY INSPECTION HERE.

I HAVE A COPY FOR ALL IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF MY INSPECTION.

UM, AND THE, THE REASON I DIDN'T GET IT TO Y'ALL WAS I DIDN'T HAVE IT UNTIL THIS IS, THIS IS LEGAL.

HE, HE RECEIVED, HE DID SEND IT TO ME.

UM, I DID LOOK AT IT.

I APPROVED IT.

UH, JUDY HAS IT.

SO AS SOON AS HE ASKED TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU GUYS, IT'S READY FOR YOU GUYS TO, TO, TO, TO, TO REVIEW.

SO MR. CASE, WE, WE HAVE IT FOR YOU IF YOU WANT TO PRESENT THAT.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING EARLIER IF YOU HAD ANYTHING, A DOCUMENTATION.

THAT'S WHAT I'M, I WAS ASKING FOR.

SO NO, IF YOU'LL LOOK, IF YOU'LL LOOK ON THE SCREEN, IT'S, IT'S UP THERE FOR YOU.

THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING FOR, IF THERE WAS CLARIFICATION ON NOT, NOT TO.

OTHER THAN THAT, NO.

WE, THE INSPECTION'S UP HERE, MR. MATT GESNER, MATTHEW GESNER, A TRUCK LICENSE INSPECTOR WAS AT THE PROPERTY YESTERDAY.

UH, MR. GESNER IS PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY, UM, PRIVATE INSPECTOR IN THIS TOWN THAT I'LL USE.

I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH INSPECTORS AND MR. GESNER IS THE ONLY ONE THAT I REALLY CARE FOR.

AND I BELIEVE THAT HIS WORDS THERE COULD ADDRESS THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY FAR BETTER THAN ANYTHING I CAN TELL YOU.

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SIR, IF YOU LIKE, YOU MIGHT WANNA SIT, IT SAYS 36 PAGES HERE, , IT'S, UH, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU.

I NEED THE EXERCISE CHAIR.

THIS IS LEGAL.

UH, IS IT? YES SIR.

IS IT APPROPRIATE? AND OKAY, IF I ASK MR. CASE A, A, A FEW QUESTIONS, UH, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE, MR. CASE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RESPOND TO HIS QUESTIONS.

ABSOLUTELY.

COUNSEL, GO AHEAD.

MR. CASE, DO YOU REPRESENT BOTH OWNERS OR JUST, OR JUST MR. GOMEZ? JUST MR. GOMEZ.

AND DO WE KNOW BY ANY CHANCE, UH, IF, IF I, I BELIEVE HER LAST NAME, GOFF, IF, IS SHE INVOLVED AT ALL WITH THE PROPERTY? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SHE IS MR. GOMEZ'S EX-GIRLFRIEND.

UM, SHE'S ON TITLE TO THE PROPERTY.

I DON'T THINK SHE, OTHER THAN THAT SHE'S ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH THE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

AND, AND THEN YOU WERE, YOU WERE HIRED IN JANUARY, SO THAT WAS, THAT'S, THAT'S AFTER THE, THE, THE DART INSPECTION.

WOULD THAT BE FAIR TO SAY? YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WITHOUT, UM, GOING INTO ANY ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE, UM, TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, DO YOU KNOW IF AN AFTER ACTION MEETING WAS SCHEDULED WITH THE DART UNIT WITH YOUR CLIENT? MY KNOWLEDGE ON THAT COMES FROM YOU AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS AN INSPECTION SOMETIME PRIOR TO MY BEING HIRED.

OKAY.

BUT THAT MY, UM, MY CLIENT DID NOT ATTEND.

OKAY.

DID, BUT YOU SAID YOUR CLIENT DID NOT ATTEND THAT, THAT AFTER ACTION MEETING.

WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE? YEAH, YOU'RE THE SOURCE OF MY KNOWLEDGE ON THAT ONE, SO YES SIR, I AM.

BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON RECORD.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

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UH, MR. BYS, IF I COULD SUPPLEMENT THAT PER THE CITY'S OWN REPORT HERE ON JANUARY 6TH, THERE WAS A MEETING WITH MR. GOMEZ AT THE PROPERTY.

SO IT, IT APPEARS THAT HE DID ATTEND SOME KIND OF, UM, OF, OF AFTER MEETING.

I, I BELIEVE, AND I I'M SURE THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CLARIFY THAT, THAT THAT WASN'T A, THAT THAT WASN'T A, A SCHEDULED MEETING WITH, UH, THE DART UNIT THAT I BELIEVE THAT WAS A MEET OR, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO GO OUT THERE FOR SOMETHING.

BUT AGAIN, WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CLEAR THAT UP IF, IF POSSIBLE.

YES, SIR.

THIS IS DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER CRYSTAL TOWN.

UM, TO CLARIFY, YES.

UM, I DID GO OUT TO THE PROPERTY ON JANUARY 6TH DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE, UM, ELECTRIC WAS CUT.

I MET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND EXPLAINED WHY IT WAS CUT.

UM, AND AFTER ASKED HIM IF HE NEEDED ANY ASSISTANCE, UM, DUE TO THAT WAS HIS RESIDENCE.

UM, ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE PROPERTY IS BEING BROUGHT UNDER CHAPTER 6 1 60 FOR THE CRIMINAL ASPECT.

SO IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES, IT'S THE POINT OF WHAT THE STRUCTURE IS BEING UTILIZED AS ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY.

AND IF I COULD COMMENT ON THAT, THE NOTICE I HAVE HERE FROM THE CITY SAYS THIS BROUGHT HER TO 6.156, NOT 6.106.

SO ALSO, WHERE'S THE REST OF THE PAPERWORK? HERE WE GO.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STRUCTURAL CONDITION REPORT, IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE.

DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT INFORMATION ON RECORD THAT YOU'RE IDENTIFYING SPECIFICALLY, UH, AN AREA? YES.

THIS IS DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER.

I DID JUST SHOW ON THE STRUCTURAL CONDITION REPORT PROVIDED TO THE ATTORNEY, IT DOES STATE 6 1 60.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

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MR. CASE, LET ME ASK YOU, UH, TWO, I I POSSIBLY REPEAT SOMETHING.

I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAID THAT THE POLICE REPORT WAS AN AREA REPORT NOT NECESSARY AT 2 31 RANCH VALLEY.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

UH, IF, IF I MAY, I'M GONNA BRING THE POLICE OFFICER BACK UP HERE TO VERIFY THE STATEMENT.

CAN I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR HIM? I'M BEFORE.

CAN WE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MR. PLEASE GO RIGHT AHEAD AND ASK, ASK.

UM, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE REPORT WHERE IT HAD THE WATER HEATER PLEASE? DOWN IT, IT MEAN, SORRY.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN? THAT UNIT HEATED WATER AT TIME OF INSPECTION USING TEMPORARY POWER IF THERE'S NO POWER IN COMPLIANCE OF THE PROPERTY, WHAT DOES A TEMPORARY POWER SOURCE FOR THE WATER HEATER THAT APPEARS TO ME TO BE A GAS HEATER.

WHY DID YOUR INSPECTOR PUT TEMPORARY POWER? GAS IS NOT TEMPORARY.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

AND EVEN THOUGH THAT IS A GAS, IT'S A POWER FLASH HEATER AND THEY DO REQUIRE ELECTRICITY AS WELL.

I, THERE MAY BE A GENERATOR ON THE PROPERTY THAT COULD BE THE, THE SOURCE OF THE ELECTRICITY.

BUT BEYOND THAT, IF IT'S, IF IT'S ANYTHING, IF IT'S ANYTHING OTHER THAN A GENERATOR, I'M NOT SURE.

CAN YOU CONFIRM WITH YOUR CLIENT? YES.

GENERATOR? YES, MA'AM.

UH, SIR, FOR THE RECORD, SINCE YOU, CAN YOU GIVE YOUR NAME, DID YOU, YOUR CLIENT'S NAME AND ADDRESS BECAUSE YOU DID ADDRESS MR. CHAIR WHAT? MR. CHAIR? THIS IS LEGAL.

UM, MR. CASE IS, IS, UH, HE'S GOING TO SPEAK FOR HIS CLIENT.

SO HIS CLIENT DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE NAME AND INFORMATION, BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IS FOR MR. UH, CASE TO, UM, PROVIDE AN ANSWER, UM, UH, SO WE CAN HAVE THAT ON RECORD.

A VERBAL ANSWER IS WHAT HE IS LOOKING FOR.

SIR, WITH REGARDS TO MR. GOMEZ, THE, THE POWER SOURCE OF THE WATER HEATER, I BELIEVE IT'LL BE A GENERATOR.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW WITH MR. CASE? OKAY.

OFFICER GOMEZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME BACK FORWARD AND GIVE US MORE INFORMATION OR AT LEAST AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE TOTAL REPORT THAT YOU PROVIDED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

TERMS SUPERSTRUCTURE.

I'LL CALL YOU BACK UP IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, SIR.

YES, SIR.

SO THE CALLS LISTED ARE, UM, RELATED TO THIS ADDRESS, BUT THE CALLS COULD ALSO COME FROM NEIGHBORS THAT ARE, UH, COMPLAINING ON THE, UH, INCIDENTS THAT TOOK PLACE.

SO AS FOR THE CALLS THAT ARE DIRECTLY COMING FROM THAT RESIDENCE, THE 2 3 1, UM, THAT I DO NOT HAVE IN DETAILS, SHOTS FIRED, WOULD BE NOT NECESSARILY AT THAT LOCATION.

IT COULD BE SOMEWHERE NEXT DOOR, CORRECT? IT CAN BE COMING FROM A NEIGHBOR THAT IS CALLING ON THAT RESIDENCE.

SO THE CALL LOCATION WOULD, COULD EITHER COME FROM THE CALLER'S ADDRESS OR WHERE THEY'RE CALLING FOR.

AND THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS SHOT, UH, WAS AT WHAT LOCATION? AT THAT LOCATION OR A DIFFERENT LOCATION? UH, THAT DETAILS I CANNOT GIVE RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, IT WAS CALLED AND RELATED TO THE, UH, 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY.

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OF THE OFFICER?

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I, GO AHEAD.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH OFFICER.

THERE IS SOME SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, BUT I CAN'T FIND THE DATES ON THEM.

SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, UM, THAT ARE PROVIDED IN OUR FILE.

OKAY.

UM, WAS THAT, THAT I DO NOT HAVE THE, UH, INFORMATION FOR.

UM, SO THERE'S SOCIAL MEDIA POST 10, HOUSE NUMBER TWO IS IN THE WORKS.

YOU'LL BE READY.

WHAT IS THE DATE OF THAT POST? SO THE DATES WEREN'T ON THERE DUE TO, TO HIDE THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS TAKING THE SCREENSHOTS OF THE POST.

SO THOSE DATES AREN'T ON THERE BECAUSE IF WE DID, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE PHONE NUMBER OF THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE SCREENSHOT.

DO YOU HAVE THE DATE THAT YOU RECEIVED THAT SCREENSHOT? I DO NOT HAVE THE DATE OF WHEN I RECEIVED THAT SCREENSHOT ON HAND.

I CAN LOOK IN MY PHONE AND GET IT FOR YOU, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT ON HAND CURRENTLY AT THIS MOMENT.

UM, BUT IT WAS TAKEN, IT WAS POSTED AFTER WE DID THE DART INSPECTION, SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

DO YOU KNOW IF IT WAS POSTED AFTER ELECTRICITY WAS TAKEN AWAY? NO, IT WAS POSTED PRIOR.

YEAH.

SO IT WAS POSTED POST DART PRE ELECTRICITY? YES.

OKAY.

UM, ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT UTILIZING A GENERATOR FOR POWER IS NOT TO CODE.

THANK YOU.

OFFICER GOMEZ, I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

YOU CAN BE SEATED IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, COUNSEL, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME BACK FORWARD.

I'VE GOT A REAL QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

UH, THE ISSUE IS YOU DID NOT, YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO CONFIRM SALE OR NOT SELL OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES OR FOOD AT THE LOCATION.

DO YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A LICENSE TO ACTUALLY SELL, UH, AT THE PREMISES TO SELL FOOD AND ALCOHOL? FOOD AND ALCOHOL? YES, SIR.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SUCH PERMIT, BUT WE KNOW THERE'S NO PERMIT FOR FOOD.

I DID NOT KNOW FOR SURE ABOUT ALCOHOL.

BUT YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF THAT? I DON'T, I DON'T, I I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PERMITS FOR EITHER OF THOSE, UM, ACTIVITIES.

OKAY.

UH, DO YOU KNOW, UH, THE, THE PRIMARY INTENT OF THE PARTIES? I DO NOT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF, UH, YEAH, COUNSEL? YES, GO AHEAD.

WELL, STICKING WITH PERMITS, UM, WE KNOW THEY GOT A PERMIT FOR THE FENCE.

IS THAT ANY BROUGHT IT CORRECT? YES, YOUR HONOR.

THE, THE, THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE WERE REPLACED IN THE WINDOWS, UH, THE INTERIOR SHEET ROCK AND THE EXTERIOR PERMITS WERE OBTAINED FOR ALL THREE OF THOSE ITEMS. HOW ABOUT THE FLOOR? I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT DOES SHOW FROM THE PICTURES TO WHERE IT IS NOW, THE FLOORS WERE REDONE AND THAT REQUIRES PERMIT AS WELL.

WHAT MY CLIENT HAS TOLD ME IS THAT, UH, PURPOSE WERE OBTAINED FOR ALL WORK DONE AND PURPOSE WERE OBTAINED AND THE HOUSE INSPECTED AND APPROVED FOR ALL WORK DONE POST, UM, ELECTRICAL SHUTOFF.

SO I WOULD PRESUME THAT THOSE WERE PERMITTED OR APPROVED AS WELL.

THE CITY'S BEEN IN THERE AND SEEN IT, AND I EXPECT THAT IF IF THE WORK HAD BEEN DONE WITHOUT A PERMIT, WE, WE, WE WOULD KNOW SOMETHING.

WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE THE EARLIER SAID NO PERMIT.

NOW WE'RE, WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO CLARIFY EVERYTHING.

OKAY? YES, SIR.

UM, YOU SAID WINDOWS? YES, SIR.

THERE WERE WINDOWS THAT WERE INSTALLED PRIOR TO BY CLIENT PURCHASING THE PROPERTY THAT WERE NOT DONE WITH THE PROPER PERMIT.

UM, THEY WERE REPLACED WITH THE PROPER PERMIT.

NOW, YOU DID NOTICE ON THE PICTURES THE EGRESSES WERE BARRED AND I NOTICED IN THE PICTURES YOUR, UH, INSPECTOR TOOK THE BARS WERE REMOVED, CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO.

I, YEAH, WHEN I SAW THE, THE PICTURES YOU GUYS PROVIDED, I DIDN'T SEE THE WINDOW BARS AS WELL.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES TOO.

YEAH, I WASN'T AWARE OF THE, OF THE BARS UNTIL THE, THIS MORNING WITH THE PRESENTATION FROM THE BEFORE PICTURES.

BUT THERE ARE NO BARS ON THE AFTER PICTURES.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING ALL THAT.

SO WE'RE CLARIFYING IT'S ON THE RECORD.

SO IT HAS BEEN CLARIFIED.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT IT DID SHOW A EGRESS ISSUE.

YES, SIR.

THERE, OKAY.

BURGLAR BARS ARE DOWN.

RIGHT? UH, NOW ON THE ELECTRICAL, THERE WAS A DOOR THAT SHOWED A WIRE AND YOUR INSPECTOR PICKED IT UP 'CAUSE HE HAD A CIRCLE WITH AN ARROW COMING OUT THE BACK DOOR.

I DO BELIEVE IT WAS, IT WAS TALKING ABOUT BOLTING SOMETHING.

THERE WAS A WIRE GOING OUT THAT DOOR TO, I'M ASSUMING THE PATIO, I'M JUST DESCRIBING THE PICTURE THAT YOU SHOWED THAT WAS SHOWED BY THE, THAT IS STILL THERE.

I DO NOT KNOW, BUT ANY, ANY REPAIRS MADE WILL BE MADE PURSUANT TO CODE WITH CITY INSPECTION.

SO ANY CONDITION THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE THAT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH CODE WOULD NEED TO BE, UH, WOULD NEED TO BE FIXED AS PART OF THE, UH, REMEDIATION PROCESS.

SO IF THERE ARE ITEMS WITH ELECTRICAL THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT UP TO CODE THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT IN THE CITY'S REPORT, I BELIEVE THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE FIXED AS PART OF THE, UM, AS PART OF THE PROCESS OR ELSE THEY COULDN'T CLOSE THE PERMIT OUT.

NOW YOU SAID YOU GOT THE REPORT LAST NIGHT? YES.

YES, SIR.

SO YOU REALLY HAVEN'T GONE IN THERE TO SEE IF THERE'S OTHER ITEMS POINTED OUT.

CORRECT.

BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICK AND WE DIDN'T SEE, I JUST SAW THAT PICTURE.

IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T INDICATE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THE PICTURE WAS THERE.

SO THERE'S

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A, A POSSIBILITY THERE'S STILL SOME OTHER ISSUES OUT THERE THAT NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED.

WELL, YES SIR.

I MEAN, TO THAT EXTENT, IF WE'RE GONNA GO INTO ANY PROPERTY AT ANY TIME, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA FIND THINGS THAT AREN'T UP TO MODERN DAY CODE.

UM, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I HAVE HERE IS THAT THE, AND AS THE OFFICER CLARIFIED, WE'VE GOT 6.156, WE'VE GOT 6.160.

UM, WE ONLY HAVE A FEW THINGS UNDER 6.156 THAT, THAT WERE, THAT WERE NOTED.

UM, AND MY CLIENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ELECTRICAL, HAS FIXED THE, THE 6.156 ISSUES.

THE, THE BIGGER ISSUE BEING 6.160 IS THE REPRESENTATION WE CAN MAKE TODAY WITHOUT ADMITTING TO ANY WRONGDOING PREVIOUSLY IS THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN MOVING FORWARD.

AND, AND WHAT THE CODE SAYS IS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT, BUT 1 6 0 SAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT AS THIS ISSUE TOO.

NOT GOING INTO THE OTHER DETAILS.

OKAY.

SO THE WHAT, LET ME ASK YOU, SO YOU DON'T, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FIGHTING THE DEMOLITION.

WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR? WE'RE ASKING FOR THE CITY TO NOT DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY.

WE ARE FULLY, UM, READY, WILLING, AND ABLE TO BRING THAT PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING COATS.

I MEAN, LET'S LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE HERE.

UM, THIS IS IN AN ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED PART OF TOWN.

IT IS A HOUSE ON A LOT THAT IS GENERATING TAXES AND GENERATING REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

IF THAT HOUSE IS KNOCKED DOWN, WE HAVE ANOTHER VACANT LOT.

ANOTHER VACANT LOT I THINK IS A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO THAN AFTER HOURS PARTIES.

AFTER HOUR PARTIES, WE COULD SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT ANYMORE.

AND IF YOU DO, WE'LL BE IN TROUBLE.

A VACANT LOT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN IT.

UH, VAGRANT AND TRASH AND OTHER ISSUES ARE A BIGGER ISSUE WITH A VACANT LOT BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT PROPERTY OWNER IS GONNA GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF VACANT LOTS LIKE THAT, IT SIMPLY DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO FROM THE BIG PICTURE, IT'S IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST.

AS MUCH AS MY CLIENT'S BEST INTERESTS TO ALLOW THE REMEDIATION OF THIS PROPERTY.

IT KEEPS A HOUSE THAT IS IN FAIRLY DECENT CONDITION, UM, OCCUPIED, OWNER OCCUPIED AND REMOVES THE THE PROBLEM, WHICH WAS THE AFTER HOURS PARTIES.

UH, THERE'S A VERY EASY SOLUTION HERE I THINK THAT MAKES BOTH SIDES HAPPY, WHICH IS MY CLIENT AGREEING IN WRITING WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO THAT ALL THE ACCUSED BEHAVIOR SIMPLY STOPS.

SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS, ARE YOU PRETTY MUCH ASKING US TO LOOK AT ANOTHER AVENUE REPAIR? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YES, SIR.

THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING HERE TODAY, IS WE WANNA WORK WITH THE CITY AGAIN.

THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S ZERO VALID REASON TO KNOCK THAT HOUSE DOWN.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY'S TRYING TO DO HERE.

THEY GOT A MESSAGE TO SEND AND MY CLIENT GOT THAT MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR.

IF MY CLIENT CONTINUES TO, TO, TO PLAY GAMES AND, AND, AND, AND DO THINGS HE SHOULDN'T DO, HE WILL GET IN TROUBLE.

BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF STOPPING POTENTIAL ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR, IT STOPS.

HAVE YOU MADE THAT OFFER TO COUNSEL OR TO THE CITY THAT YOU WOULD MAKE THOSE KINDS OF ARRANGEMENTS? UH, MR. BIRDS HAD ASKED TO, TO TO TABLE THOSE CONVERSATIONS UNTIL, UNTIL TODAY OR AFTER THE, UH, OKAY.

AFTER THE HEARING TODAY.

BUT WE WE'RE, THAT'S, THAT'S, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.

WE, THIS IS, THIS IS LEGAL.

JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, MR. CASE, UM, DID ASK THAT THIS PROPERTY, THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THIS PROPERTY COMING FROM THE BOARD, IT WAS ALREADY THERE.

BUT ALSO TO BE FAIR, HIS CLIENT WAS, WAS THAT PRIOR TO MR. CASE'S REPRESENTATION, HIS CLIENT WAS INVITED IN PERSON.

I, 'CAUSE I SPOKE TO HIS CLIENT IN PERSON ON THE DAY OF THE INSPECTION TO COME TO OUR, TO COME AND MEET WITH US.

HIS CLIENT CHOSE NOT TO, UH, THE, EXCUSE ME, FOR ADDRESSING BACK TO THE, OUR COUNSEL, THE, UH, CODE OFFICER HAD INDICATED.

AND ALSO THE POLICE OFFICER HAD INDICATED THAT, UH, THE WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE OR TO COOPERATE WITH THEM HAD BEEN LESS THAN, EXCEPT LESS THAN COURTEOUS OR KIND OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

UH, DO YOU PERSONALLY KNOW OF THAT INFORMATION TO BE CORRECT? SORRY, CAN YOU ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN JUST TO MAKE SURE I I, I, I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION FULLY.

UH, THE, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY DID NOT RESPOND TO YOU IN ANY WAY, POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE IN TERMS OF PROVIDING ANY ASSURANCE THAT HE WAS WILLING TO DISCONTINUE HIS OPERATION THAT HE WAS DOING.

CORRECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, CAN I HAVE THE, UH, THE OFFICER BACK UP? CAN I HAVE ONE FOR COUNSEL BEFORE YOU YEAH.

GET THE OFFICER.

YEAH.

UM, MR. CASE, UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE PROVIDED SOCIAL MEDIA POST.

ONE SAYS, BOGUS ARREST, GOT ALL CHARGES REJECTED, AND I'M FEE HASHTAG F**K, SAD.

AND THE OTHER ONE SAYS, HENHOUSE NUMBER TWO IN THE WORKS.

YOU'LL BE READY.

AND YOU STATED, MY CLIENT GOT THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR.

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UM, BASED ON THESE POSTS, I'M CURIOUS WHAT EXACTLY WAS THE MESSAGE THAT HE GOT LOUD AND CLEAR TO SIMPLY OPEN UP ANOTHER LOCATION AND THAT RESPECT FOR LEGAL AUTHORITY IS NOT NECESSARY? OR IS THERE ANOTHER MESSAGE THAT HE GOT LOUD AND CLEAR? THOSE COMMENTS WERE MADE BEFORE MY REPRESENTATION.

UH, THERE'S A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MR. GOMEZ ON HIS OWN FACING THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND MR. GOMEZ HERE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL.

UM, STUPID THINGS WERE SAID.

I CAN'T DENY THAT YOU'VE CLEARLY GOT IT RIGHT THERE BECAUSE STUPID THINGS WERE SAID.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT A CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED? NO.

UM, DOES THIS MEAN THAT I HAVE SAT DOWN WITH MY CLIENT AND DISCUSSED HIM AND ADVISED HIM OF THE POTENTIAL, UM, REPERCUSSIONS IF SUCH THINGS WERE HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE? YES.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE OFFERING IS THE CONDUCT STOPS PROFESSIONAL OPINION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT INDIVIDUALS.

WOULD YOU SAY THAT PAST BEHAVIOR AND PAST CHOICES OVER YEARS OF DOCUMENTATION IS THE BEST INDICATOR OF FUTURE CHOICE? OR ARE YOU IN THE BELIEF SYSTEM THAT PEOPLE CAN CHANGE ON A DIME? I'M NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CHANGE ON A DIME, BUT AGAIN, THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MR. GOMEZ WITH AND WITHOUT LEGAL COUNSEL.

UM, MR. GOMEZ IS NOT AN ATTORNEY.

I AM, I HAVE THE ABILITY, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I ENJOY WITH MY JOB, ACTUALLY, OF EXPLAINING TO MY CLIENTS IN, IN ENGLISH RATHER THAN LEGAL.

WHAT THINGS MEAN? WHAT, WHAT WILL HAPPEN? WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE PENALTIES IF WE KEEP ON DOING THIS? I'M A CIVIL ATTORNEY.

I DO REAL ESTATE.

I, I'M NOT A CRIMINAL ATTORNEY, WHICH I'VE DONE MY VERY BEST HERE TO AVOID ANY REFERENCES TO CRIMINAL LAW, BUT I OFTEN WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS IN THIS SITUATION.

IT'S MORE OFTEN WITH HOAS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO 'CAUSE HOAS ARE A WHOLE LOT MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO .

UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHETHER IT'S AN HOA PROPERTY RESTRICTION OR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO MUNICIPAL CODE, WE'RE BOUND BY THEM.

AND WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY OWNERS AND CITIZENS AND SO ON.

AND YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW.

AND IF YOU DON'T COMPLY WITH THE LAW, YOU FACE THE FACE THE CONSEQUENCES.

AND THAT'S JUST A HARSH REALITY OF LIFE.

AND, UM, THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I CAN TELL Y'ALL IS THINGS MAY HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

I WASN'T HERE.

I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THEM, BUT WE CAN GIVE ASSURANCE THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAPPEN MOVING FORWARD.

SO YOU'RE STATING THAT YOUR CLIENT DOES NOT HAVE THE INTENTION TO OPEN UP A SEPARATE PROPERTY, ASHIN HOUSE NUMBER TWO, IF THERE'S ANY SUCH MOTIVATIONS OUT THERE, I'M NOT AWARE OF THEM.

AND MY FINAL QUESTION FOR THE MOMENT, UM, SINCE THIS DOES SEEM TO BE A GRAND SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR YOUR CLIENT, WELL, HOW DOES HE PLAN ON SUPPORTING HIMSELF GOING FORWARD IF HE DOES NOT HAVE A HIN HOUSE? MR. GOMEZ IS A LICENSED, I WANNA SAY HVAC CONTRACTOR, BUT IT MAY BE A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN, ONE OR THE OTHER.

UH, AND THAT IS AND WAS HIS PRIMARY SOURCE OF INCOME AND, AND WILL BE HIS PRIMARY SOURCE OF INCOME MOVING FORWARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AWESOME.

COUNCIL, I BE SEATED.

THANK YOU VERY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY BOARD.

THANK YOU SIR.

OFFICER GOMEZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AGAIN, EH, WELCOME BACK, .

UM, SO THE LAST TIME YOU WERE OUT THERE WHEN ALL THE DART HAPPENED, WERE YOU ON THE DART? UH, I AM NEW TO THE SAFE UNIT, SO MY PARTNER WOULD HAVE UH, MORE DETAILS ON THAT.

ALRIGHT, WELL I CAN GET HER RIGHT UP HERE.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

WHEN THE DART HAPPENED, YES SIR.

AND ALL OF THIS CAME ABOUT AND FROM THE TIME THIS IS SHUT DOWN, HAS THE ACTIVITY DROPPED CALLS AND THE VIOLENT AREAS, WHATEVER IS HAPPENING OUT THERE, HAS ALL THE CALLS ACTUALLY DROPPED IN THAT AREA, UH, JANUARY, WHATEVER THAT DATE WAS.

DO YOU MIND IF I ASK MY PARTNER TO COME UP? IF YOU WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING HER BACK UP OR BANG HER UP AND ASK THE QUESTION DIRECTLY TO SOMEONE.

OKAY.

WHO HAS A DEPTH KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR OFFICER OFFICER TIFFANY PUENTE WITH THE SOUTH SAFE UNIT AS WELL.

THANK, UM, LIKE HE SAID, HE IS A LITTLE NEWER.

I WAS AT THE DARK THE DAY IT HAPPENED, UM, THE DAY OF THE DART TO NOW.

YES, WE DID HEAR THERE WAS FACEBOOK POSTS OF ANOTHER LOCATION HAPPENING.

THE WAY IT WORKS ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS THEY PROMOTE THESE, UH, PARTY ORGANIZERS, THEY PROMOTE THEIR PARTIES AND UH, I DID HEAR FROM OTHER PATROL OFFICERS AND COVERT UNITS THAT UM, YOU KNOW, HE WAS NOT HIM SPECIFICALLY, BUT OF COURSE THERE WAS OTHER LOCATIONS THROWING THE PARTIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, HAS IT STOPPED FROM NOW TO THEN? UH, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW BECAUSE UM, THE OFFICER THAT WAS FROM THAT AREA, HE RECENTLY RETIRED.

SO HE WOULD HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.

UM,

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I WOULD SAY POSSIBLY, UM, IT HAS SLOWED DOWN BECAUSE OF COURSE NOW HE HAS HIS LAWYER AND HIS LAWYER SAID IT HIMSELF.

HE'S STOPPED FROM HIS KNOWLEDGE FROM MID-JANUARY TO NOW.

WELL, UM, UM, LET ME GET TO THIS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT HIM.

THE ACTIVITY YES.

FOR THAT SPECIFIC AREA, YES.

HAS THE ACTIVITY AND CALLS GONE DOWN FROM WHAT THEY WERE.

SO I DON'T PERSONALLY HAVE THE CALL HISTORY RIGHT NOW ON HAND, UH, BUT FROM PATROL OFFICERS THAT WE SPEAK TO, FROM ALL THE OTHER SHIFTS, THE NIGHT SHIFTS THAT WORK THAT AREA, THEY HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYTHING THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAPPENED SINCE THE DAY OF THE DART.

ALRIGHT.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

OH, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

WHAT, WHICH ONE? ? YES, MA'AM.

SO THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST SAYS BOGUS DEES GOT ALL CHARGES REJECTED.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, IF ANY CHARGES THAT MR. GOMEZ WAS CHARGED AT THE TIME AND THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS, UH, THE DAY OF THE DART, I'M NOT EXACTLY FOR SURE WHAT, UH, CHARGES WERE CHARGED THAT NIGHT.

UH, BUT THERE WAS MENTION OF COCAINE, UM, MARIJUANA, THC, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS OFFICIALLY ARRESTED THAT NIGHT.

UM, 'CAUSE IT WAS A PRETTY LONG NIGHT, UH, WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON.

BUT THERE WAS NARCOTICS AND GUNS SEIZED FROM THE LOCATION.

OKAY.

SO THIS POST THAT SAID THAT THERE WERE ACTUALLY AN ARREST, THERE WAS NO ARREST ON RECORD AT THIS TIME? I'M NOT ENTIRELY TOO SURE.

OKAY.

YES.

THANK YOU.

SORRY, ONE MORE.

UM, THERE WAS A HIGH CHAIR AND PACK AND PLAY IN THE BACK ROOM IN AN AREA THAT WAS BEING USED FOR WITH, UM, SHOOTINGS AND DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.

HAS ANYONE CALLED CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THIS IS LEGAL.

YES, SIR.

UH, JUST A, A QUICK FOLLOW UP.

UH, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS AN ARREST MADE THAT DAY.

UM, AND THAT WAS BY, UH, UH, I WANNA SAY, UH, ONE OF THE OFFICERS FROM COVERT, UH, 'CAUSE HE KEPT ME IN COMMUNICATION AS TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

THOSE CASES WERE SUBSEQUENTLY DROPPED BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

UM, AND I, I, I CAN, I CAN ALSO STATE IN REGARDS TO THE PACK AND PLAY, I'M NOT GOING TO CLAIM THAT I KNOW WHOSE IT WAS.

UH, BUT MR. GOMEZ DID STATE THAT HE HAD HAD KIDS THAT, THAT LIVED WITH HIM.

I, I BELIEVE HIS GIRLFRIEND WAS ALSO THERE AT THE TIME.

OKAY.

ARE WE THROUGH, SORRY, THIS IS DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER TOWN.

UM, I DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT ADDING THIS EARLIER, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT ON THE DAY OF THE DART WE DID HAVE ASSISTANCE FROM THE GANG UNIT, THE RAVEN UNIT COVERT UNIT AND TABC.

SO WE HAD NUMEROUS UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS PROPERTY AND HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS PROPERTY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.

SO IT ISN'T JUST SAPD PATROL, IT IS THE GANG UNIT.

IT IS, UH, THE COVERT UNIT.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD TO INVOLVE TABC BECAUSE THERE IS SELLING OF ALCOHOL IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING OR HEAR IT CORRECTLY, A, B, C WAS INVOLVED TABC.

THANK YOU.

THEY WERE ON SITE THE DAY OF THE INSPECTION.

YEAH.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

UH, I GOT A FOLLOW UP AND MAYBE I HEARD IT WAS IN THERE AND I MISSED IT.

THERE WERE NO CHILDREN AT THE TIME OF DART AND ALLEGEDLY WHEN ALL OF THESE OPERATIONS WERE GOING ON, IS THAT CORRECT? AT, AT THE, AT THE PREMISES.

SO THE DAY OF THE DAR INSPECTION, THERE WERE NO CHILDREN ON SITE.

IT WAS A NIGHT INSPECTION.

UM, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE HIS CHILD WAS LOCATED, HOWEVER, IT WAS NOT LOCATED AT THE PROPERTY.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT.

YES, THANK YOU.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR, UM, ALL OF THESE CALLS THAT HAVE COME BACK ABOUT 134 CALLS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.

WERE THERE ANY, UM, UNDERAGE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED? SO I'M NOT AT, UH, SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO I CAN'T ANSWER FOR THEM, BUT I CAN HAVE THEM COME BACK UP HERE.

.

HI.

UH, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE PHYSICAL COPY OF OUR, YOU KNOW, HISTORY.

UH, SO I CAN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WE WANNA RECALL BEFORE WE BRING TO THE NEXT SPEAKER UP? VERY GOOD.

SANDRA BELCHER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD OR DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? WELL, UM, WHEN YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE , PLEASE ADJUST IT TO WHERE YOU CAN SEE AND YOUR HOME ADDRESS

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AS WELL.

UH, MY NAME IS SANDRA BUTCHER AND I REPRESENT THE LENDER OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, HE AND MY ADDRESS IS 1 71 COLLEEN DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 8.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOUR TESTIMONY AND MY TESTIMONY IS, UM, WHATEVER HE'S DOING THAT IS PROBABLY ILLEGAL OR HE DOESN'T HAVE PERMITS FOR, I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE, I MEAN THE, THE PANEL NOT DECIDE TO, UH, DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY.

FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, THE PROPERTY IS IN GOOD CONDITION.

IT MAY HAVE SOME PRO LITTLE MINOR PROBLEMS THAT NEED TO BE RE REMEDIED, BUT, UH, AS THE LENDER, IF UM, IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO DO IT, THEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY JUMP IN AND FIX EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE THERE ARE LENDERS INVOLVED AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WANNA LOSE, YOU KNOW, THEIR INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY.

HE'S ONLY HAD THE HOUSE FOR SEVEN YEARS.

HE STILL HAS A BALANCE OF A LITTLE MORE THAN $86,000 THAT IS STILL OWED ON THE PROPERTY.

SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THAT'S THE, THE INDIVIDUAL OWNER WILL STILL HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DEBT REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THE STRUCTURE.

YEAH.

BUT WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GOOD THAT HAPPENING? , I UNDERSTAND THAT TOO.

MAY I ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS NOW? OKAY, SURE.

UM, YOU SAW THE BEFORE AND THE ATTORNEY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL SHOWED US AN INSPECTION OF AN ACTUAL, ACTUAL LICENSE INSPECTOR THAT WENT OUT THERE AND DID A FULL SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY.

HAVE YOU GOT A COPY OF THAT? NO.

AND AS A BANK, YOU HAVE INSPECTORS AS WELL, OR I'M SORRY, LENDER, THE LENDERS HAVE THE INSPECTOR AS WELL.

WHEN YOU SAW THOSE PICTURES, DID YOU SEE MINOR ISSUES AND THE REPAIRS OF THE FLOOR AND SUCH? WOULD YOU SAY THAT HMM, THE INDIVIDUAL WAS MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO RESTORE SOME OF THE WRONGDOING? I WOULDN'T, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I DON'T, I HAVE PICTURES OF THE BEFORE AND THE AFTER.

I JUST KNOW THAT WHEN WE SELL THE PROPERTY, WE SELL IT WHERE IT'S HABITABLE AND IT'S FUNCTIONAL, EVERYTHING'S IN GOOD CONDITION, BUT THEY ARE OLD HOUSES AND WE DO SELL 'EM AS IS.

SO THESE HOUSES DO NEED SOME WORK, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED UPGRADING LIKE THEY'RE ELECTRICAL AND MAYBE PLUMBING, YOU KNOW.

UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DO IS WE SELL HOUSES, WE SELL OR FINANCE 'EM AND WE SELL 'EM AS IS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SEE SOMETHING OR THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING.

YES, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PULL PERMITS.

WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT AWARE OF THAT.

I WAS JUST MADE AWARE OF THIS LAST WEEK AND I JUST GOT A LETTER BECAUSE WE'RE THE LENDERS, RIGHT.

THE ATTORNEY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL HAS ASKED US TO SEE IF WE CAN GO THE OPTION OF REPAIR.

AND YOU SOUND LIKE YOU CONCUR WITHOUT SEEING WHAT WE SAW TODAY TOO, THOSE BEFORE AND AFTER.

AND BASED OFF OF THOSE, THE APPEARANCE THAT IT IS TRYING TO DO THAT RESTORE BACK TO.

UM, SO YOU PRETTY MUCH ARE ASKING FOR US TO REPAIR, GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPAIR IT.

YES.

IF NOT HIM, THEN YOU WOULD TAKE OVER THE YES.

IF HE COULDN'T DO IT, THEN WE WOULD JUMP IN AND DO IT AND MAKE SURE AND DO ALL OF THE REPAIRS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S, THAT THERE'S, UH, PERMITS PULLED ON, EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

WHATEVER'S ON THE REPORT AND, AND, AND REPAIR IT AND PAY FOR IT.

YEAH, I MEAN WE COULD ALWAYS ADD IT TO HIS, UH, HIS NOTE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD GET PAID.

'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, HE'S PURCHASING THE HOUSE, BUT IF, IF HE'S NOT GONNA FOLLOW THE LAW, I THINK, I'M NOT TOO SURE, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING IN THERE WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF HE'S BEING A NUISANCE AND HE'S NOT COMPLYING WITH THE LAWS AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY, THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A CLAUSE IN THERE WHERE WE CAN FORECLOSE ON IT.

I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO ASSURE THAT WE WILL HAVE A TALK WITH HIM AS WELL AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING 'CAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING THE LENDERS AT RISK OF GETTING THEIR HOUSE DEMOLISHED AND, AND WE'RE, WE DON'T WANT THAT.

AND HIS LAWYER ALSO OFFERED A GUARANTEE

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AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE GUARANTEE WAS.

YES.

OKAY, SO YOU WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT TOO, BECAUSE IT'S PROTECTING THE, YOUR VESTED INTEREST.

YES, YES.

I, I MEAN, I'LL GUARANTEE YOU THAT , THAT IS GOING TO STOP.

IT'S GONNA COME TO A STOP.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO IFS OR BUTS ABOUT IT.

HE WILL LOSE HIS PROPERTY IF THAT IS NOT, WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THE ACTIVITY THAT WAS GOING ON IN THERE, IN THAT PROPERTY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WELL, WHAT, EXCUSE ME, I'VE GOT ONE OTHER QUESTION.

UM, WHAT PROVISIONS IN THE LOAN DOC, OH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU CLEARLY, IS THAT THE LENDER WOULD GO IN AND ORCHESTRATE THE REPAIRS AND THEN ADD THEM TO THE LOAN? YEAH, IT'S LIKE A REWRITE.

YOU DO A REWRITE.

YOU WERE ALSO STATING THAT YOU WILL GUARANTEE THAT ALL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY WILL CEASE EVEN IF THE HOUSE IS BROUGHT, UM, UP TO STANDARD.

HOW CAN YOU GUARANTEE THAT AND WHAT RECOURSE DO YOU HAVE TO FORECLOSE ON THE HOME FOR? THAT'S PROBABLY FOR OUR, OUR, UH, OUR FORECLOSURE ATTORNEY TO HANDLE OR, OR TO SAY.

I'M JUST SAYING I, I'M AWARE OF WHAT'S ON THEIR DOC ON OUR DOCUMENTS.

I CAN'T QUOTE IT 'CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED.

BUT THERE COULD BE A CLAUSE IN THERE.

COULD BE NOT IS.

I'M PRETTY SURE IT IS, BUT I DON'T WANNA SAY EXACTLY BECAUSE I, I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU 'CAUSE I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THIS.

I DON'T HAVE IT ON HAND.

THANK YOU.

MR. CASE, DID YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT QUESTION? IF I, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? THANK YOU.

WE'LL HAVE TO CUT BACK UP THE SPEAKER.

IN GENERAL, MOST MORTGAGE DEEDS OF TRUST HAVE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS THE LENDER TO STEP IN AND MAKE REPAIRS, UM, OR TO ABATE ILLEGAL, UH, ILLEGAL CONTEXT IF SUCH CONDUCT IS GOING ON.

THERE ARE PROVISIONS GENERALLY THAT REQUIRE NOTICE FROM THE LENDER TO THE BORROWER BEFORE THE LENDER COULD DO ANYTHING.

BUT MOST DEEDS OF TRUST HAVE THAT, HAVE THAT, UM, AUTHORITY.

DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THAT PROCESS TAKES? IF THE LENDER INITIATES IT, IT WOULD ALL COME DOWN TO THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF THE DEED OF TRUST.

BUT GENERALLY IT'S A 20 PER STATE LAW.

IT'S A 20 DAY, UM, NOTICE FROM THE LENDER TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OF WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

AND IF IT'S NOT FIXED AT THAT POINT, THE LENDER IS ALLOWED TO EITHER FIX IT AND CHARGE IT TO THE, TO THE BORROWER OR TO FORECLOSE ON THE PROPERTY AND TAKE IT BACK AS A VIOLATION OF THE DEED OF TRUST.

AND THAT INCLUDES CRIMINAL ACTIVITY? YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THAT'S JUST STANDARD.

UM, THE STATE BAR FORM DEAN OF TRUST HAS THAT LANGUAGE AND ALMOST EVERY DEAN OF TRUST I'VE EVER READ HAS THAT LANGUAGE.

SO I'D ANTICIPATE THAT HERS WOULD HAVE THAT LANGUAGE AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY OF MS. BUTCHER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM.

UH, A COUPLE OF POINTS FROM THE CHAIR.

AT LEAST THE COUNCIL HAS SUGGESTED THAT THE BOARD MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AUTHORITY.

UH, I WOULD REMIND THE BOARD THAT THE COUNCIL REVIEWS THESE BEFORE THEY COME TO THE BOARD.

THE SECOND ISSUE IS FOR COUNCIL AND, UH, OWNER IS ANY, UH, EXCUSE ME, LIEN HOLDER.

ANY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH THE ORDER OF THIS BOARD MAY FILE AN APPEAL ON CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE IS ORDERED OR MAILED.

UH, AND WITH THAT CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

YEAH, THIS IS, UH, JOEL ALI.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 31, UH, RANCH VALLEY DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 7 IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE FOR CITY COACH CHAPTER SIX ARTICLES, UH, EIGHT, UH, SECTION 6 1 57, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 6 1 5 6 FOR THE MAIN, UH, THAT'S 8 12 15.

FOR THE ACCESSORY IT IS EIGHT 12 AND 15.

AND IN VIOLATION OF SIX DASH ONE 60, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER AND THAT IT BE SECURED AND FREE OF TRASH AND DEBRIS.

THE MOTION IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 31 RANCHO VALLEY DRIVE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE FOR CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME.

AND IT'S IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, UH, SECTION DASH SIX DASH 1 56, SUB CODES EIGHT TO 12 AND 15, THAT THE STRUCTURES TO BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS, BE SECURED AND BE CLEANED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? UH, AND ADDING TO

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THE MOTION THAT IT'S IN VIOLATION OF SIX DASH, UH, 1 60 0, EXCUSE ME.

AND THAT WAS FOR THE MAIN AND ACCESSORY FOR THE MAIN.

AND WELL, THIS IS FOR THE, AND THE MOTION WAS FOR MAIN AND ACCESSORY.

AND NOW CHAIR WILL ACCEPT.

SECOND.

THERE IS NO SECOND.

THEN WE WILL TABLE THAT MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND MOTION? MR. CHAIR? THIS IS FRED ANDES.

UM, I MOVED AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT, UM, 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX DASH EIGHT, SECTION 6 1 5 6 SUBSECTIONS 8 8 12 15 FOR THE MAIN AND FOR THE ACCESSORY 8 12 15.

AND I BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY SHOULD BE REPAIRED.

I ALSO BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE VACATED ALL, ALL ELECTRICITY OR ALL UTILITIES SHOULD BE SHUT OFF UNTIL THE REPAIRS ARE DONE.

OKAY.

THAT ENDS MY MOTION.

OH, UH, SORRY TO BE RE TO BE REPAIRED WITHIN 90 DAYS.

MR. CHAIR.

COUNSEL, I I I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO THIS BOARD.

DO YOU CANNOT GIVE MORE THAN 30 DAYS IF NO SCOPE OF WORK, PROOF OF FINANCIAL MEANS, UM, AND OR IF AN ENGINEER'S REPORT IS NEEDED? UM, NONE OF THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED BY THE LENDER OR, OR, OR, UH, OR COUNSEL.

UH, DULY NOTED.

AND I'LL RE UH, JUST GO BACK TO THE 30 DAY REPAIR COUNSEL.

CAN I ADD THE FACT THAT IF THEY PROVIDE THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT THE CITY, UH, I'M SORRY, CODE OFFICER CAN INSPECT OR IF THEY PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTS, WOULD THAT BE UP TO, UH, STAFF TO EXTEND IF NEEDED? NO, IT'LL JUST BE THE 30 DAYS.

JUST BE THE 30 DAYS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THEN IT'LL STAY 30 DAYS.

MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT, UH, 2 31 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE FOR CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57.

AND IT'S NOT FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME.

IT IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 15 SIX, UH, AND IS TO BE REPAIRED IN 30 DAYS.

UTILITIES DISCONNECTED UNTIL REPAIRS ARE COMPLETE.

I THINK THAT COMPLETES YOUR MOTION, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, I HAVE ONE THING ON THERE.

YOU SAID IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED, BUT I'M ASKING FOR A REPAIR.

DID I RE-READ? I APOLOGIZE.

NO, YOU ARE CORRECT.

I DID STATE THE INCORRECTLY THAT THE MOTION IS THAT THE STRUCTURE CAN BE REPAIRED OR IS FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME.

UH, AND THAT THE REPAIRS SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN 30 DAYS.

UH, CHAIRS ERROR UTILITIES WOULD STILL BE DISCONNECTED AND THE SUB CODES ARE FOR BOTH MAIN AND ACCESSORY.

RIGHT? MAY I ASK, UH, IF STAFF MAKE FOR CLARIFICATION? I DIDN'T WANNA MISREAD THE, DID I PUT WHEN I READ IT DID IT WAS TO BE, DID I READ IT? REPEAT THE, THE SIMPLE.

REPEAT YOUR MOTION.

ALRIGHT.

I MOVED TO THE PROPERTY AT 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE.

I'M LOOKING FOR REPAIR.

WHERE'S IT AT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

I WAS READING ON THE TOP PART AND I DID READ IT WAS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE.

I READ ALL THAT AND I LISTED THE CODES AND THEN I LISTED THE CONDITIONS AND I DID ASK FOR REPAIR.

RIGHT.

FOR, FOR SIMPLICITY.

JUST GO AHEAD AND REPEAT YOUR MOTION PLEASE.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, TWO, I, I MOVED IT.

THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE SIX.

UH, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 6 1 5 6 SUBSECTIONS EIGHT, 12 AND 15 FOR THE MAIN AND SUBSECTIONS 8 12 15 FOR ACCESSORY.

UM,

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AND I DO BELIEVE THEY'RE, UH, IT CAN BE REPAIRED WITHIN 30 DAYS.

UM, IT SHOULD BE VACATED.

ALL UTILITIES CUT.

THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE CUR, UH, SECURED UNTIL ALL REPAIRS ARE MADE.

MR. CHAIR LEGAL, THIS IS ANOTHER CLARIFICATION REAL QUICK.

GO AHEAD.

UM, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR IN REGARDS TO THE REPAIRS OF THE ACCESSORY.

IT'S AN ILLEGAL STRUCTURE 'CAUSE IT WAS BUILT WITH NO PERMIT.

SO, UM, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT PROPERTY FOR BOTH STRUCTURES TO BE REPAIRED, I, UM, MAYBE CLARIFY AS TO HOW YOU WANT THEM TO REPAIR AND ILLEGAL STRUCTURE THAT WAS ILLEGALLY ERECTED IT.

YEAH, I'LL REPAIR THE MAIN, MY MIC REPAIR THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

I'LL CLARIFY AND DEMOLISH THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

SO YOU'RE AMENDING YOUR MOTION.

I'M AMENDING THE MOTION OF THE PART OF THE REPAIR ONLY TO MAIN AND THE DEMOLITION OF ACCESSORY COUNSEL.

IS THAT SATISFIED? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

UH, CHAIR'S ASSUMPTION IS THAT THE DEMOLITION IS TO OCCUR IN 30 DAYS, CORRECT? BOTH ITEMS ARE TO OCCUR WITHIN 30 DAYS.

THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT, UH, 2 31 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE FOR CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57.

AND THE MAIN IS FEASIBLE OF BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME, BUT REMAINS IN VIOLATION OF CODES.

UH, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56, SUB CODES EIGHT, 12 AND 15 ON THE MAIN AND EIGHT, 12 AND 15 ON THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

THE MAIN IS TO BE REPAIRED IN 30 DAYS VACATED.

UTILITIES DISCONNECTED UNTIL REPAIRS ARE COMPLETE AND THE STRUCTURE IS TO BE SECURED AND THAT THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS TO BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS.

UH, SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE.

UH, WAIT.

EXCUSE ME.

I NEED A SECOND MOTION.

THE MOTION FAILS.

THE CHAIR WOULD MAKE A MOTION.

THE MOTION IS THAT THE, CAN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNSEL? I'M SORRY.

CAN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNSEL? QUESTION FOR COUNSEL.

GO AHEAD.

UM, THE ATTORNEY RETAINED BY THE OWNER HAS REQUESTED THAT, UM, THE STRUCTURE NOT BE DEMOLISHED, BUT HAS STATED THAT HIS CLIENT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL, UM, BEHAVIORAL CHANGES NECESSARY SO THAT THE PROPERTY IS NO LONGER A NUISANCE.

AND MY QUESTION TO COUNSEL IS WHAT DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WRITE INTO OUR MOTION THAT WOULD, UM, TRIGGER, UM, DEMOLITION IF THE, THE OWNER DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE NOTION TO CEASE AND DESIST ANY ACTIVITY THAT CAUSES EXCESSIVE NOISE, GUNSHOTS, ET CETERA.

WHAT IS OUR ABILITY TO MAKE A SAFEGUARD INTO COMPLIANCE SO THAT THE CITY CAN ACT WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK HERE, MR. CHAIR AND BOARD? UH, YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY, UM, AS YOU KNOW, UH, THE, UH, THE BUILDING STANDARD BOARD IS IN, IN ESSENCE, AND I I THINK I'VE TRAINED ALL OF YOU TO KNOW IT'S THE CABOOSE.

UM, THE PROPERTIES ARE BROUGHT HERE WHEN, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BELIEVES THAT, UH, THERE IS NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE TO, UH, GET COMPLIANCE.

UH, SO, UH, IF BY SOME CHANCE, UM, UH, MR. CASE IS UNABLE TO GET HIS CLIENT TO COMPLY, UM, WHAT WILL MOST LIKELY HAPPEN IS, UM, THE SAME UNTIL THE PROPERTY IS POSSIBLY BROUGHT BACK TO THIS BOARD AGAIN, IF THAT'S WHAT, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES NEEDS.

BUT I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THIS BOARD CAN, CAN USE TO TRIGGER, UH, A DEMOLITION, UH, ON A REPAIR ORDER.

IF THIS BOARD IS GOING TO ORDER THE PROPERTY TO BE REPAIRED, THEN THE BOARD IS GONNA ORDER THE PROPERTY TO BE REPAIRED AT THE EXPIRATION OF THE, THOSE, THOSE 30 DAYS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL THEN NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO HOW TO MOVE FORWARD IF THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

AND WE CAN REQUEST THAT IN THE CODE THAT HE DECEASED, HE CEASES ALL ACTIVITIES THAT ARE CONSIDERED A POTENTIAL THREAT OR, OR A THREAT, OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, SAFETY, OR PROPERTY.

THAT WOULD BE NUMBER 12.

JUST TO MAKE SURE I CAN, CAN YOU ASK ME THAT?

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IF, IF THIS BOARD IS GOING TO SEEK REPAIRS, UH, THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT PROPERTY, UM, UH, MY QUESTION IS HOW DO WE SEEK REPAIR ON BEHAVIOR? YOU CAN'T.

YOU DO NOT, WHICH IS WHY, BUT THE PROPERTY IS BEING BROUGHT TO US BEHAVIOR, WHICH IS WHY THE PROPERTY IS BROUGHT TO YOU.

WHY, RIGHT.

WHICH IS WHY THE PROPERTY WAS BROUGHT TO THIS BOARD AS A 6 1 60 WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF DEMOLITION.

UM, IF THIS BOARD DOES BELIEVE THAT THAT PROPERTY CAN BE REPAIRED AND, AND, AND DOES NOT BELIEVE THE BRINGING IT UNDER A 6 1 60 WARRANTS OF DEMOLITION, THEN UH, THIS BOARD IS BELIEVING THAT THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE REPAIRED, CAN BE REPAIRED, AND THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT.

I, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE CAN, DO WE HAVE A COPY OF 6 1 60? I SEE IT AT THE BOTTOM OF CODE IN CHAPTER.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LIKE? IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS? UNDERNEATH 6 1 5 6 12, THE BUILDING STRUCTURE HAS BEEN CONTRACTED EXISTING, OR IS MAINTAINED IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY'S MINIMUM HOUSING STANDARDS OR TECHNICAL BUILDING CODES TO THE EXTENT THAT VIOLATES THREAT TO POTENTIAL LIFE THREAT PROPERTY OR PROPERTY, OR, SORRY, LIFE HEALTH, SAFETY OR PROPERTY.

I, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I UNDERSTAND THIS ARE CONCERNS IN THE BEHAVIOR.

I'M JUST TRYING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE CODE IS SO THAT I CAN EXACTLY MAKE A MOTION.

SURE.

JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR, UH, SIX DASH ONE 60 ADDITIONAL STATE AUTHORITY UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE UPON HEARING A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE SHALL BE ORDERED, DEMOLISHED, VACATED, SECURED OR REPAIRED, AND OR ITS OCCUPANTS RELOCATED IF FOUND TO BE DILAPIDATED, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION IN A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OR REGARDLESS OF THE STRUCTURAL CONDITIONS.

BUT HAVING BEEN SUBJECT TO REPEATED CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENTS UNOCCUPIED BY ITS OWNERS LEASES OR OTHER INVITEES, THE BUILDING IS, IS UNSECURED FROM UNAUTHORIZED ENTRY TO THE EXTENT THAT IT COULD BE ENTERED OR USED BY VAGRANT OR OTHER UN UNINVITED PERSONS AS A PERSON OF HARBRIDGE OR COULD BE ENTERED OR USED BY CHILDREN.

SO I BELIEVE WHAT THE BOARD, EXCUSE ME, I BELIEVE WHAT BILL, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS SAYING BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF ITS STRUCTURAL CONDITION, BUT, UH, HAVING BEEN, UH, SUBJECT TO REPEATED CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS, THAT IS WHY THEY BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY, UM, IS A DILAPIDATED, DANGEROUS STRUCTURE.

AND THAT IS WHY THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR, UH, DEMOLITION.

AND I CAN JUST ADD TO THAT.

I THINK WE'VE SEEN HERE TODAY THAT THE, THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS, IS HABITUAL WHAT? OVER A HUNDRED, UH, DIFFERENT CALLS THAT, UH, WHEN THEY WERE THERE FOR THE, THE SAFE, UH, THAT THERE WERE MULTIPLE GUNS FOUND.

UH, THERE WERE, UH, UH, DRUG ACTIVITY, UH, GOING, UH, THAT THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, SHOOTINGS AND A MURDER THAT'S OCCURRED IN OR AROUND THE FACILITY MM-HMM .

SO I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING PRESENTED TODAY THAT WOULD SAY THAT THE HABITUAL ACTIVITY IS GOING TO CEASE.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHY I PROPOSED THAT WE POINT THANK YOU OF CAN I SECOND HIS MOTION NOW? STATE? WAIT.

OH, HOLD ON.

STATE, STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

PART OF POINT OF ORDER IS THAT WAS, UH, ASKED TO LEGAL CORRECT, BUT YOU ASKED, THEREFORE WE CANNOT HAVE A DISCUSSION UNTIL THIS, UH, UH, MOTION HAS EITHER BEEN SECONDED.

IS THAT CORRECT? COUNSEL? AND THEN DISCUSSION CAN GO IN.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SECOND THE FIRST MOTION.

PARDON? AND WE HAVE TO REDO IT AGAIN.

THE, THE, THE MOTION HAD BEEN, THE MOTION DIED BY A FAILURE TO HAVE A SECOND.

THEREFORE THE DISCUSSION IS ACCEPTABLE.

SO GO AHEAD WITH YOUR STATEMENT.

I MOVE THAT THE MOTION LOCATED AT 2 3 1 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE POOR CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX POINT DASH 1 56, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56, UM, MAIN STRUCTURE EIGHT, 12 AND 15 ACCESSORY STRUCTURE EIGHT, 12 AND 15.

IMMEDIATE, THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER.

I'M SORRY, RESTATE THE LAST PORTION OF YOUR MOTION.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER.

AND THAT'S BOTH STRUCTURE MAIN AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 31 RANCH VALLEY DRIVE.

IT'S A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, UH, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57 AND IS NOT FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME.

IT'S IN VIOLATION OF, UH, CODE SIX DASH ONE SIX OH AS WELL AS CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, UH, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56 SUB CODES, UH, EIGHT TO 12 AND 15 THAT THE

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STRUCTURES BOTH MAIN, UH, AND UH, ACCESSORY ARE TO BE DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS, ONLY 30 DAYS DEMOLISHED.

NO OTHER ADDITIONAL LIKE SECURE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE THAT WAS JUST REMOVE ALL DEBRIS, PARDON ME? DEMOLISHED AND REMOVE ALL DEBRIS TO LEAVE A CLEAN LOT.

AND DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION? THIS IS JOEL.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.

ANY DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY.

ANY DISCUSSION? UH, THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD WITH THE DISCUSSION.

UM, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY CHALLENGING CASE TO LOOK AT THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER COMPARED TO THE OBLIGATIONS TO THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH IS SURROUNDED.

I SEE A HISTORY OF DISREGARD FOR LAW AND FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

AND ON A MORE PERSONAL NOTE, I TAUGHT AT RAYBURN FOR A YEAR AND I THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE THERE AND THIS HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I FIND IT VERY DISTURBING AND I WOULD CONCUR WITH YOUR COMMENTS.

UM, THIS IS FERNANDEZ.

I DISAGREE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ANOTHER VESTED INTEREST THAT ALREADY GUARANTEED THAT IF THE PERSON COULD NOT DO THE REPAIRS, THEY WOULD STEP IN AND MAKE THE REPAIRS AND THEN THEY WOULD TAKE THE ACTION AGAINST THE INDIVIDUAL.

THE THIRD PARTY IS THE LENDER AND THE LENDER IS GUARANTEED THAT THEY WOULD AUTOMATICALLY STEP IN IF THE REPAIRS COULD NOT BE MADE WITHIN THE 30 DAYS.

AND THAT'S, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.

AND WHEN YOU SAY REPAIRS, YOU BECAUSE YOUR REPAIRS ARE TALKING ABOUT THE STRUCTURE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTIVITY IT, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THE ACTIVITIES.

UH, YES WE ARE.

THAT IS WHY IT WAS BROUGHT HERE.

THE OWNER, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE GUARANTEEING AND THE LAWYER'S GUARANTEEING THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO KICK THE PERSON OUT OF THAT PROPERTY TO STOP THOSE ACTIVITIES.

AND THAT'S WHERE THAT GOES.

THEY'RE GUARANTEEING THE HOUSE WILL BE REPAIRED AND THEN THEY'LL TAKE THE ACTION OF REMOVING THE INDIVIDUAL IF SET ACTIVITIES CONTINUE.

HIS LAWYER ALREADY GUARANTEED THAT AS WELL TO GUARANTEE THAT THE REPAIRS WOULD BE MADE.

WE HAVE ANOTHER THIRD PARTY THAT GUARANTEES IT, THAT HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN IT.

AND WE'RE SITTING HERE TELLING THEM THE MOTION IS TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE.

AND NOW THE VESTED INTEREST THAT IS IN HERE THAT EVERYBODY'S AGREED THAT THEY WOULD REPAIR, LET, IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE IF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COULD BRING SOMEBODY ELSE IN, WE'RE NOT REALLY HERE TO SAY THAT THAT PERSON, WE UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY, BUT WE CANNOT SAY THAT THE CITY JUST BY TEARING THAT HOUSE DOWN, IS GOING TO STOP ANY ACTIVITY IN THE AREA.

THE VESTED INTEREST IS THE PERSON THAT SHOULD BE THE ONE NOW THAT IF THE PERSON IS CONTINUOUSLY ON WHATEVER ALLEGED ACTIVITY, THE VESTED INTEREST SAID THEY WILL TAKE OVER AND GET THE REPAIRS DONE.

JUST TO CORRECT ONE STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE, YOU SAID THAT THE BOARD DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CONSIDER THE ACTIVITY AND WE DO HAVE THE ACT, THE, THE AUTHORITY UNDER SIX DASH ONE 16.

I I DIDN'T SAY THE ACTIVITY TO CO TO MAKE THE PERSON COMPLY TO ANYTHING OF AN ALLEGED ACTIVITY IS MY STATEMENT.

WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE THIRD PARTY'S INTEREST THAT SAYS THEY WILL GUARANTEE THE REPAIRS.

AND I ACCEPT THAT STATEMENT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THE ISSUE AND, AND, AND I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE THAT OR MIS MS WORDED IT, BUT WE ARE NOT HERE TO FORCE ANY TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT ON AN INDIVIDUAL.

WE ARE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROPERTY OVERALL IS REPAIRED AND THE ATTORNEY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL HAS SAID THERE, THIS WILL BE DONE AND THAT ACTIVITY WILL CEASE.

I CAN'T TELL THE ATTORNEY IT WON'T OR, OR NOT, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TOLD.

I CITE AGAIN SIX DASH ONE 60 AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I CITE THE FACT THAT THERE IS SOMEBODY THAT CAN MAKE THE REPAIRS AND KICK THE PERSON OUT.

IF THAT ACTIVITY CONTINUES, THAT'S ON THEM, NOT US.

SO LET ME JUST REBUT AGAIN WHAT I SAID EARLIER IS THAT THE ACTIVITY IS HABITUAL AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT SAYS THAT THAT WILL NOT CONTINUE GOING FORWARD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL PLEASE.

DWAYNE NELSON.

AYE.

FRED ANDIS.

NAY.

JOEL SOLIS? AYE.

DR. LINDA LOPEZ.

RODRIGUEZ? NO.

COURTNEY ROSEN.

AYE.

PAUL HERNANDEZ.

AYE.

MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF FOUR TO TWO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OUR NEXT CASE IS GOING TO BE 8 29 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE.

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CAN WE HAVE A FIVE MINUTE PAUSE? CERTAINLY WE CAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

UH, THE TIME IS NOW 1109.

WE WILL STAND IN RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES.

BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD FOR 13 MARCH WE'LL RECON 13 MARCH, 2025 WILL RECONVENE.

UH, AND THE STRUCTURE THAT WE WILL CONSIDER IS GONNA BE 8 25.

UH, HUTCHINS WEST HUTCHINS PLACE.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS CHRISTY GARZA, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURES BEING PRESENTED TODAY ARE LOCATED AT 8 2 9 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 1 WITH RECOMMENDATION FOR REPAIR TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND DEMOLITION OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS CASE IS THE FIRST TIME BEING HEARD BEFORE THIS BOARD.

PLEASE NOTE ON AUGUST 13TH, 2024, A DANGEROUS ASSESSMENT RESPONSE TEAM INSPECTION WAS CONDUCTED.

THE INSPECTION IS A COLLABORATED INSPECTION WITH A VARIETY OF CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT INCLUDED THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 9 4 2 5 BLOCK ONE 50 LOT SEVEN LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS FISHER GARY ESTATE OF AND RONALD R WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 8 2 9 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 1.

ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED.

THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS ARE PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE CASE.

MS. MICHELLE FISHER, DOES THE BOARD WISH TO PROCEED? YES, PLEASE.

CONTACT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH MICHELLE FISHER AND TAMMY TANKERSLEY.

PRIOR TO THE HEARING ON AUGUST 19TH, 2024, MS. MICHELLE FISHER AND TAMMY TANKERSLEY ATTENDED THE CONFERENCE, A CONFERENCE THAT WAS HELD AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DISCUSS ALL VIOLATIONS AND NUISANCES FOUND AT THE PROPERTY.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2024 THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION NATION.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 8 2 9 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE WAS CONDUCTED ON AUGUST 13TH, 2024.

ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED AUGUST 22ND, 2024 AND A CERTIFIED RECEIPT IS PENDING RETURN ON FEBRUARY 27TH, 2025.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT THE PROPERTY 8 2 9, WHICH WEST HUTCHINS PLACE ON FEBRUARY 26TH, 2025.

THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO THE OWNERS AND A CERTIFIED RECEIPT IS PENDING RETURN ON FEBRUARY 11TH, 2025.

AN ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT WAS EXECUTED TO OBTAIN PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE STRUCTURE TO PRESENT BEFORE THE BUILDING STANDARD BOARD.

NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS OF TODAY, MARCH 13TH, 2025.

THERE ARE NO PERMITS ON FILE FOR 8 2 9 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE.

THE LAST TIME THIS PROPERTY WAS ABATED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WAS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024.

THE TOTAL COST OF THAT ABATEMENT WAS $1,195 8 2 9 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE IS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF MCCULLUM HIGH SCHOOL AND TERRELL MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WERE TAKEN ON FEBRUARY 11TH, 2025.

I OKAY, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN THE DAY OF THE DART INSPECTION THAT WAS CONDUCTED ON AUGUST 13TH, 2024.

MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS WERE DETAINED WITH ONE ARREST FOR A FELONY FIREARM.

THE NEXT PHOTO IS OF, IS A CURRENT PHOTO OF THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

THERE WERE ATTEMPTS TO REPAIR THE PORCH WITH PLYWOOD THAT IS VISIBLE TO THE RIGHT OF THE PHOTO.

THE NEXT PHOTO IS GOING TO BE OF THE RIGHT ELEVATION OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

THE SKIRTING THAT WAS MISSING HAS NOW BEEN REPLACED WITH PLYWOOD AND FENCING

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MATERIAL AND THE RIGHT CORNER OVERHANG HAS SIGNS OF ROT AND DETERIORATION.

THIS ELEVATION DOES CONTAIN THE CPS METER BOX.

THE NEXT TWO PHOTOS WILL SHOW THE CIRCUIT AND FUSE BOX WITH EXPOSED WIRING, SPLICING, AND ALSO FRAYED WIRING.

THE NEXT PHOTO IS GOING TO BE OF THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

THE OVERHANG ALSO HAS SIGNS OF ROTS AND DETERIORATION.

THE LANDING IS ALSO MISSING UNDERNEATH THE REAR DOOR.

THE NEXT PHOTOS OF THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE ATTEMPTS TO MAKE REPAIRS.

UH, THERE WERE, UM, ATTEMPTS TO MAKE REPAIRS BY REPLACING THE SKIRTING.

UM, ALSO THE OVERHANG ALSO HAS SIGNS OF RODS AND DETERIORATION ON THIS ELEVATION.

HERE'S A CLOSEUP OF A HOLE THAT'S LOCATED IN THE OVERHANG.

DURING THIS INSPECTION, IT WAS RAINING SO I WAS ABLE TO VIEW WATER COMING THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE OVERHANG.

THIS PHOTO IS MAKING ENTRY INTO THE LIVING ROOM.

UM, I CAN SAY THAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE TO THE INTERIOR AS FAR AS THE UNSANITARY CONDITIONS INVOLVING THE ANIMAL, URINE AND FECES THAT WAS OBSERVED WITHIN THE STRUCTURE.

DURING THE INITIAL INSPECTION, I WAS ABLE TO ALSO SAFELY MANEUVER WITHIN THE INTERIOR.

THERE IS A LARGE HOLE IN THE LIVING ROOM AND DINING ROOM AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY COVERED WITH A BLACK BAG.

HERE'S A CLOSEUP OF THE DAMAGED CEILING.

UH, WATER AND MOISTURE DAMAGE IS PRESENT.

PAINT IS ALSO BUBBLING.

CEILING TILES ARE MISSING AND DETACHING TO THE RIGHT OF THE PHOTO BY THE CEILING TILES, YOU'LL SEE THAT WATER IS MAKING ENTRY.

HERE IS A PITCH, A PHOTO OF A LARGE HOLE THAT IS LOCATED IN THE INTERIOR WALL IN THE LIVING ROOM.

IT HAS BEEN COVERED WITH PIECES OF WOOD AND TAPE.

THIS PHOTOS IS OF THE RESTROOM.

THE CORNER OF THE SHOWER HAS SIGNS OF WATER DAMAGE.

THE CEILING TILES ARE ALSO CURRENTLY DETACHING.

THE NEXT PHOTO IS GOING TO BE REMAINING IN THE RESTROOM RIGHT ABOVE THE, THE DOORWAY, THERE'S MORE INDICATION OF WATER AND MOISTURE DAMAGE AND THE CEILING TILES ARE ALSO, UH, DETACHING.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A PHOTO OF THE REAR BEDROOM.

THIS ROOM IS TO THE LEFT OF THE RESTROOM.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S EXTENSION CORDS RUNNING ALONG THE WALLS AND THE CEILING AND THE ROOM.

THERE IS FURNITURE BLOCKING WINDOWS POSING A HAZARD IN CASE OF FIRE OR PANIC.

THERE'S ALSO MORE INDICATION OF WATER OR MOISTURE DAMAGE AS SEEN IN THE CEILING TO THE RIGHT OF THE PHOTO.

HERE'S A VIEW OF THE HALLWAY.

IN BETWEEN THE TWO BEDROOMS, THERE'S MORE SIGNS OF MOISTURE AND WATER DAMAGE WITH MISSING TILES.

AND ON THE TOP OF THE PHOTO, IT'S HARD TO TELL, I DO APOLOGIZE.

BUT THAT IS AN AIR VENT THAT HAS BEEN COVERED BY, UM, PIECES OF WOOD AND, AND A TWO BY FOUR.

HERE'S A PHOTO OF THE FRONT BEDROOM.

THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN DURING THE, UH, DART INSPECTION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WAS ITEMS IN FURNITURE BLOCKING THE WINDOWS.

THERE IS ALSO A SAG IN THE CEILING TO THE LEFT OF THE PHOTO.

HERE'S A CURRENT PHOTO OF THE SAME BEDROOM.

ALTHOUGH PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE ITEMS FROM THE WINDOWS, THE SAAG AND THE CEILING STILL DOES REMAIN.

HE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A PHOTO OF THE REAR ACCESSORY RIGHT ELEVATION.

THE METAL ROOF SYSTEM IS SAGGING, THE METAL PANELS ARE WORN AND RUSTED.

EXTERIOR WALLS ALSO HAVE HOLES.

WINDOWS AND OPENINGS ARE POORLY BOARDED.

THE SIDING HAS ALSO CRACKED.

UH, AT THE BASE OF THE STRUCTURE.

THIS IS GOING TO BE THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE ACCESSORY.

UH, DURING THE INITIAL INSPECTION, ELECTRICITY WAS SERVICING THE ACCESSORY, BUT HAS, UH, SINCE BEEN REMOVED WITH NO PERMITS.

THE NEXT PHOTO IS GOING TO BE OF THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE ACCESSORY.

THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN DURING THE INITIAL DART INSPECTION TO SHOW THE ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND GARBAGE IN THE REAR YARD, UH, TO INCLUDE THE ALLEYWAY.

THIS LEFT ELEVATION WAS NOT ACCESSIBLE FOR AN INSPECTION.

AS UH MENTIONED BEFORE, THE CITY DID PROCEED WITH AN ABATEMENT OF THE PROPERTY IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024.

THE NEXT PHOTO IS GOING TO BE A CURRENT PHOTO OF THE LEFT ELEVATION.

AGAIN, THERE IS A SAG IN THE ROOF SYSTEM THAT'S VISIBLE.

THE METAL ROOF PANELS ARE DETERIORATED AND ARE LIFTING IN AREAS.

UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MORE ITEMS ARE BEGINNING TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE PROPERTY.

THE NEXT PHOTO IS GOING TO BE OF THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE MAIN ACCESSORY.

WE HAVE BROKEN AND MISSING SIDING.

UH, THERE'S BROKEN DOORS AND TRIMS AS MENTIONED.

UH, MORE DEBRIS AND OTHER ITEMS ARE BEGINNING TO BE BROUGHT BACK INTO THE

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PROPERTY.

THIS PHOTO SHOWS WALKING INTO THE LEFT ENTRANCE OF THE ACCESSORY DURING THE INITIAL, UM, DART INSPECTION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S AN ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND ITEMS WITHIN THE STRUCTURE.

EXTENSION CORDS ARE SEEN RUNNING ALONG THE INTERIOR.

UH, THERE'S TARPS ACTING AS DIVIDERS, UM, AND COVERAGE.

THE CEILING PANELS OR PLYWOOD ARE ALSO DETACHING.

AND THE CEILING JOISTS DO HAVE SIGNS OF WATER DAMAGE.

THIS IS A CURRENT PHOTO OF THAT SAME ENTRANCE.

UM, IT IS NOW.

IT APPEARS TO BE USED AS STORAGE, UM, BUT WATER AND MOISTURE DAMAGE IS, UH, OBSERVED IN THE ROOF COMPONENTS.

THIS IS MAKING ENTRY INTO THE RIGHT DOORWAY OF THE ACCESSORY.

DURING THE INITIAL DART INSPECTION, THERE IS LITTLE TO NO WALKING AREA DUE TO THE ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND OTHER ITEMS. UM, LARGE AMOUNTS OF ANIMAL FECES AND URINE WAS PRESENT WITHIN THE STRUCTURE.

EXTENSION CORDS AND WIRES ARE OBSERVED RUNNING ALONG THE INTERIOR.

UH, BEHIND THIS LEANING PLYWOOD TO THE LEFT OF THE PHOTO, IT WAS OBSERVED THAT AN INDIVIDUAL WAS STAYING WITHIN THE STRUCTURE.

THE NEXT PHOTO WILL SHOW THE ARRANGEMENTS OF WHERE A PERSON WOULD SLEEP.

THERE WAS A TV AND A BED AND CLOTHING.

WEAPONS AND KNIVES WERE ALSO RECOVERED FROM THIS AREA.

THIS IS A PHOTO TO SHOW THE ANIMALS THAT WERE OBSERVED ROAMING IN AND AROUND THE PROPERTY AND THE ACCESSORY WITHIN THE ACCUMULATION OF TRASH.

THEIR CONDITION WAS NOT GREAT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S SORES AND WOUNDS AROUND THEIR EYES.

UM, THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICE DEPARTMENT DID ISSUE CITATIONS, UH, AND ONE DOG WAS SURRENDERED.

THE THE CATS WERE ALSO REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY, AND THIS LAST PHOTO IS GOING TO BE A CURRENT PHOTO OF THE ACCESSORY.

UM, DURING MY LAST INSPECTION, I DID NOT OBSERVE INDICATION OF OCCUPANCY WITHIN THE ACCESSORY.

UH, BUT DEBRIS REMAINS WITHIN THE STRUCTURE.

THE CEILING WOOD MEMBERS ARE STILL SEVERELY ROTTED AND DETERIORATED.

THE STRUCTURE IS ALSO SINKING TO THE RIGHT AND THERE ARE LARGE CRACKS VISIBLE ON THIS SLAB.

8 2 9 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE IS A SINGLE STORY OCCUPIED MAIN STRUCTURE LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE IN NEGLECTED CONDITION.

THE MAIN STRUCTURE'S OVERHANG HAS SIGNS OF ROT AND DETERIORATION WITH HOLES PRESENT.

THE SKIRTING HAS BEEN REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH PLYWOOD AND FENCING MATERIALS.

THERE IS A LARGE HOLE IN THE LIVING ROOM.

CEILING.

CEILING TOWELS ARE DETACHING.

DETACHING CEILING ALSO HAS MOISTURE AND WATER DAMAGE WITH DISCOLORATION WHERE MOLD APPEARS TO BE PRESENT.

INTERIOR VENTS ARE COVERED WITH CARDBOARD AND, UH, CARDBOARD AND WOOD.

THE ELECTRICAL BOX HAS SIGNS OF BEING TAMPERED WITH, WITH EXPOSED AND FREIGHTED WIRING, F FURNITURE AND OTHER MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS ARE CURRENTLY BLOCKING WINDOWS, POSING AN EGRESS HAZARD IN CASE OF FIRE OR PANIC.

THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT ONE POINT WAS USED FOR OCCUPANCY WHERE DRUG PARAPHERNALIA AND WEAPONS WERE RECOVERED BY THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THERE IS A SAG IN THE ROOF SYSTEM.

THE METAL PANELS ARE ALSO WEATHERED, WORN AND DETACHING.

THERE IS MISSING AND BROKEN SIDING WITH BROKEN DOORS AND WINDOWS.

CEILING WOOD MEMBERS ARE ROTTED AND DETERIORATED.

ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND DEBRIS REMAINS WITHIN THE STRUCTURE.

FURTHERMORE, CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES OF VAGRANT ACTIVITY AND FOOT TRAFFIC HAVE BEEN VOCALIZED TO THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 8 2 9 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE ARE IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6 1 5 6.

SUBSECTIONS FOR THE MAIN ARE 1, 2, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

AND SUBSECTIONS FOR THE ACCESSORY ARE 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18 IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREAFTER DESCRIBED SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING, ANY HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OR DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD OR UN FITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS REPAIR FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND DEMOLITION OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR 8 2 9 WEST SECTIONS PLACE.

THANK YOU.

DID WE HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE CODE OFFICER? THIS IS FRED ANDERSON.

GO AHEAD.

YES, SIR.

I I WAS GETTING WORRIED THERE WHEN YOU WERE GIVING US THE PICTURES OF THE 20 20 25 BECAUSE I'M LIKE, WE'RE UP AT 2024.

I DIDN'T SEE NOTHING.

SO THEY FLIPPED , UM, THE BIG YARD, THE ONE THAT YOU SHOWED ALL OF THE CARTS AND STUFF IN THE BACKYARD.

I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS, YES SIR.

THAT WAS 2024.

AND YOU SAID YOU DID A ABATEMENT ON THE SEPTEMBER AREA OF 2024? YES, BUT I DIDN'T SEE, UNLESS I MISSED IT IN 2025.

THAT CLEAN

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OUT OF THE ABATEMENT IF IT WAS DONE ON THAT PARTICULAR PART OR WAS IT JUST IT WAS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

I BELIEVE THE PHOTO RIGHT AFTER THE ACCUMULATION OF DEBRIS SHOWED, SHOWED A, A WREATH A PHOTO, UH, IN FEBRUARY OF THE BUILDING.

A BUNCH OF STUFF LEAK AGAINST IT, BUT THAT WAS THE SAME, THAT'S THE SAME ELEVATION OF THAT.

SO THE DEBRIS, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DEBRIS LIKE THAT, THAT THAT'S THE WALL IS WHAT YES, SIR.

THE BUILDING IS.

YES SIR.

SO, SO THE THE COST IN THAT TIME, THAT'S THE ONLY ABATEMENT THAT WAS DONE? YES.

AND IN THE PAST THERE HASN'T BEEN AN ABATEMENT ON THE PROPERTY? NO.

OKAY.

ON THE OTHER PART, YOU WANT THE STRUCTURE, THE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

AND THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT OLD GARAGE AND THE OTHER PART? YES.

THERE IT'S TOGETHER.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S, AND IT IT'S THE SAME, IT'S ONE STRUCTURE, BUT THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES.

IT'S ONLY ONE WAY IN THROUGH THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT.

AND THAT WOULD BE ON THAT ONE PICTURE WHERE YOU SHOWED THE SECOND WHERE ALL THE BLUE STUFF WAS? YES.

THAT'S THE BACK PART OF THAT GARAGE.

YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY STRUCTURE THAT YOU WANT DEMOLISHED THAT GARAGE AREA? THE SECOND YES, SIR.

WAS THE ACCESSORIES? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND THAT WOULD BE THAT LONG? YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IT'S THE, IT'S THE STRUCTURE THAT HAS, THERE'S A GABLE TO THE RIGHT AND IT TURNS INTO A FLAT ROOF SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S YEAH, BECAUSE IT STRETCHES OUT AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE BIG STRUCTURE, NOT A DIVIDE PART IN THERE.

SO YES, IT'S ONE, UH, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

AND THEN ON THE, UM, ENTRANCE THAT YOU SHOWED, THE PLYWOOD AND ALL THAT, WAS ANY OF THAT ABATED AS WELL IN THE FRONT YARD THAT'S ATTACHED TO NO, IN FRONT.

THERE'S SOME DEBRIS.

WAS THAT, WE CAN GO BACK.

I'M NOT TOO SURE WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.

UH, IT IS, UH, 1 22 ON, ON ON THIS.

RIGHT ON ON ANY OF THIS OTHER AREA BECAUSE IT'S, WAS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS AREA? ABATED ARE JUST NO, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY WAS ABATED, BUT THE ITEMS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THIS PHOTO ARE ALLOWED TO BE, UH, ON THE EXTERIOR.

SO YEAH, I, I MEAN, BECAUSE WE, WE, IT IS A TIGHT PHOTO.

YEAH.

SO IT DOESN'T SHOW LIKE THE FIRST ONE DOES.

AND THE FIRST ONE KIND OF SHOWS WITH ALL THE CARS, THE, THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS PLUS THE BACKYARD IS WHAT I'M TO YES, NO, IT, THAT, THAT THE TOTAL THAT I PROVIDED WAS A TOTAL, THAT WAS FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

SO ANY ITEMS THAT WERE OBSERVED BY CODE AND STAFF THAT IT WAS TRASH OR GARBAGE? IT WAS ABATED BY THE CITY.

AND THEN WHEN YOU WENT OUT THERE ON THE 25TH AND TOOK PHOTOS, WAS THERE MORE ACCUMULATION OR, NO, THERE WAS AN ACCUMULATION AND THERE'S AN ACTIVE, UM, WORK ORDER.

SO IT JUST, YES, WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ABATE IT ONCE MORE.

SO IT DIDN'T STOP, IT JUST CONTINUED.

YES, SIR.

YOU JUST GAVE 'EM A NEW AREA TO PUT THIS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

YEAH, YOU CLEANED THAT SO THEY CAN PUT MORE STUFF THERE.

UH, ON THE HOUSE, YOU, THE ONE THAT YOU SAID YOU SAW WAS RAINING ON THE, UH, EVE WHERE YOU SAID YOU WERE OBSERVING IT YES.

WHEN IT WAS RAINING? YES SIR.

IN THE HOUSE WHEN YOU WENT IN THERE AND THAT BAG IS IN THE LIVING ROOM, WOULD, DID YOU OBSERVE RAIN IN THERE TOO? YES, THERE WAS WATER IN THAT PHOTO.

THERE'S A CLOSEUP OF THE, WHERE THE BLACK BAG AND TAPE WAS TO THE RIGHT.

IT, THERE APPEARED TO BE MOISTURE LIKE ON THE ACTUAL CEILING, BUT I DIDN'T SEE RAIN FALL COMING THROUGH.

JUST, UH, MOISTURE ON, ON THE INTERIOR.

AND THE ONLY OTHER ATTEMPT YOU SAW FOR REPAIR WAS ON THE PLYWOOD, ON THE SKIRT? YES SIR.

THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

OFFICER PVE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD.

AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE PRESENTED ONCE BEFORE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND THE STATION AS WELL.

, UH, OFFICER TIFFANY PUENTE, UH, WITH SOUTH, UH, PATROL SAFE.

AND YOUR TESTIMONY PLEASE? UH, ONE SECOND.

SO I AM NOT THE AREA OFFICER, UNFORTUNATELY, HE IS OFF TODAY.

UM, BUT I DO ASSIST WITH THE PROPERTY.

UH, THERE HAS BEEN SEVERAL COMPLAINTS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT I HAVE THAT HAVE COME, COME ABOUT A LOT OF SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY, HEAVY FOOT TRAFFIC, UM, BIKES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

POSSIBLE NARCOTIC ACTIVITY.

UM, ALL STEM FROM POSSIBLE, UH, HOMELESS IN THE DRAINAGE DITCH NEARBY.

UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE GO IN AND OUT OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, THE BACK STRUCTURE.

UM, AND OF COURSE, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY THE MAIN ISSUE CRIMINALLY THAT WE, THAT I WAS PASSED ON THE INFORMATION DURING THE DART THERE WAS AN ARREST MADE.

UM, NOT SURE ABOUT THE NARCOTICS.

THERE WAS A WEAPON FOUND ON A MALE THAT WAS, UH, IDENTIFIED IN THE BACK STRUCTURE.

UM, AS CODE MENTIONED, IT WAS FOR FELON IN POSSESSION.

UM, THERE HAS BEEN NUMEROUS CALLS FROM BEFORE THE

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DART EVEN TO NOW.

UM, THEY VARY FROM A LOT OF PATROL BYS THAT THE SAFE OFFICER FOR THE AREA DOES.

UH, HE DRIVES BY, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME HE CONTACTS ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTS IT.

OF COURSE THERE'S ALSO CALLS, UH, BEFORE FOR MISCELLANEOUS CALLS, ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS, UH, THEFT OF VEHICLES, WHETHER IT'S SOMEBODY FROM THEIR CALLING SAYING THEIR VEHICLES STOLEN OR NOT, NOT ENTIRELY TOO SURE.

ALSO OVERDOSES, UM, SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITIES, SUSPICIOUS PERSONS, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

JUST A VARIETY OF CALLS THAT HAVE, UM, COME UP FROM, I LUCKED UP 2022 TO NOW.

THERE'S THREE PAGES, APPROXIMATELY 50 TO 60 CALLS IN, IN EACH PAGE FROM NOW TO THEN FROM 2022, JANUARY 1ST, 2022 TO NOW, LET ME, YOU SAID 50 CALLS PER PAGE, 50 TO 60 PER PAGE AND THERE'S THREE PAGES.

OKAY.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

NOT 50 IN TOTAL.

50 PER PAGE, CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

YES.

.

IS IT YOUR IMPRESSION THAT ALL THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES HAPPENING DUE TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR IS THERE ANY INCRIMINATION WITHIN THE INDIVIDUALS AND THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE? AGAIN, I AM NOT THE AREA OFFICER, BUT HE DID MENTION THAT IT WAS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

YES.

LEMME ASK YOU, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AGAIN.

YES, SIR.

I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A LONG DAY FOR YOU, .

UM, IT'S BY TWO SCHOOLS.

YES SIR.

AND I DIDN'T ASK THIS ON THE, I NORMALLY DO.

IS THIS AN AREA WHERE A LOT OF TRAFFIC FOOT TRAFFIC FROM STUDENTS GOING TO, TO AND FROM SCHOOL? I'M NOT ENTIRELY TOO SURE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW CLOSE THEY ARE, UM, THE HOUSE TO THE SCHOOL.

UH, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT KIDS, TYPICALLY, A LOT OF KIDS WALK HOME FROM SCHOOL.

UM, AND I'M NOT, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT ENTIRELY TOO SURE HOW CLOSE THEY ARE.

UM, BUT YES.

AND IN RELATION TO THE DRAINAGE DITCH, IS THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT ON THIS, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY? YES, SIR.

WHERE WOULD THAT DRAINAGE DITCH BE? UH, THAT, HOW CLOSE WOULD YOU SAY IT WOULD? IS IT BEHIND THE HOUSE OR IT'S MAYBE, I'M SORRY, IT'S TWO HOUSES TO THE RIGHT.

SO YEAH.

SO THEN THE, IF THIS IS AN AVENUE FOR THE CHILDREN TO WALK, THEY'D BE GOING RIGHT BY THE DRAINAGE DITCH AS WELL, WHICH IS WHERE THE ACTIVITY IS COMING FROM AND GOING TO POSSIBLY, YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE OFFICER? THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

MICHELLE FISHER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR HOME ADDRESS, PLEASE, MA'AM.

HELLO, MY NAME IS, UH, MICHELLE FISHER, AND IT'S THE PROPERTY AT 8 29 WEST HUTCHINS.

UM, AND LET ME START BY SAYING THAT.

YEAH, IT'S, IT WAS BAD ON, UM, NOVEMBER OF 22.

MY UNCLE RONNIE WAS LIVING THERE.

WE INHERITED THIS PROBLEM.

WE DID NOT CREATE IT.

OKAY.

AND I REALIZE IT'S A PROBLEM AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN CORRECTED.

OKAY.

BUT ON 11 20 11 OF 22, MY UNCLE RONNIE, UM, WAS SICK AND WAS ADMITTED TO THE HOSPITAL.

DURING THAT TIME, WE WERE IN COVID AND EVERYTHING.

SO, UM, THE ABILITY TO REMOVE THE, THE PEOPLE, THERE WAS A GUY THAT WAS LIKE STAYING IN THE BACK GARAGE WHO HAD, MY UNCLE WAS KIND OF AFRAID OF INTIMIDATED BY THIS GUY TO GET HIM OUT OF THE PROPERTY.

OKAY? I DID MAKE, UH, ATTEMPTS MY UNCLE PASSED AWAY, UM, IN FEBRUARY OF, I'M SORRY IF I'M NOT SAYING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY, BUT I'M JUST A LITTLE NERVOUS.

BUT OF IF FEBRUARY OF 2022, HE PASSED AWAY.

AT THAT TIME, I HAD WENT AND IMMEDIATELY GAVE THE NOTICE VERBALLY TO THE PERSON IN THE BACK.

UM, A A LOT OF THESE CALLS THAT YOU'RE SEEING AND THE COMPLAINTS TO CODE COMPLIANCE WERE DONE BY MYSELF.

OKAY? AND, UM, FIVE TWO THOU 5 22 22 WAS MY FIRST OFFICIAL EVICTION ON THE PROPERTY THAT I HAD MADE, UM, WITH JAMES ON NINE OF 23 WAS A HEARING.

YOU KNOW, I, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I HAVE A LIST OF ME TRYING TO MAKE THESE, GET THESE GUYS OUTTA HERE.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, OFFICER SOMERVILLE, I HAD SPOKEN TO HIM MYSELF ON JANUARY 9TH, 2024, AND I HAD ASKED HIM FOR DART'S ASSISTANCE IN GETTING THESE GUYS OUTTA HERE BECAUSE HE SEEMED TO FIND ALL THESE LOOPHOLES IN THE LAW WITH THE EVICTION.

AND, UM, I DO HAVE THE, THE DOCUMENTATION ON MY TEXT MESSAGES WHERE OFFICER SUMMERVILLE CORRESPONDED WITH ME AND ME ASKING HIM FOR HELP AND

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HIM RESPONDING TO ME THAT HE WAS GONNA HELP ME WITH SOME SQUATTERS.

OKAY.

AFTER.

UM, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THE GUY'S FINALLY GONE OKAY, IN, IN, UH, AUGUST, WHENEVER THEY RAIDED THE HOUSE, THEY GOT RID OF THE GUY THAT WAS THE GUY IN THE BACK, AND HE WAS DOING A LOT OF BAD THINGS, AND THE PROPERTY WAS IN DEPLORABLE CONDITION.

IT WAS HORRIBLE.

IT WAS EMBARRASSING.

UM, THE HOUSE, EE EVERYTHING, OKAY? I HAVE MADE A GREAT EFFORT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES FROM NOW TO THEN, I AM ON A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY.

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO, UH, I, AND I REALLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT THEY WERE SAYING FOR ME TO DO.

UM, AND NO MEANS HAVE I EVER NOT TRIED TO COMPLY WITH WHAT THEY WANTED OR ANYTHING.

IT'S, I, I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING AND THE SCOPE OF WORK AND EVERYTHING.

AND OFFICER CHRISSY GARZA HAS BEEN REALLY NICE IN TRYING TO EXPLAIN AND WORKING WITH ME AND STUFF, BUT IT'S NEVER, BY NOT COMPLYING WITH SOMEBODY OR NOT SEEING THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE PICTURES AS OF TODAY AND STUFF, AND, AND WHEN YOU SEE THE ONE PICTURES THAT THEY SHOWED OF AFTERWARDS WHERE THE STUFF WAS KIND OF OUTSIDE, THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET A BOBCAT IN ORDER TO GET ALL OF THE TRASH AND DEBRIS THAT THE SKY HAD LEFT BEHIND THERE OUT OF THERE.

AND, AND WE DID, WE DID THAT.

BUT THE CLEANUP WAS A REALLY MASSIVE EFFORT ON OUR PART.

I MEAN, I WENT OUT THERE BECAUSE I AM UNLIMITED MONEY AND DID MOST OF IT BY HAND AND GOT THE BOBCAT, AND WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD.

AND IT HAS TAKEN A LONG TIME TO CLEAN IT UP.

AND THERE IS STILL MORE CLEANUP THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH IF YOU LOOKED INSIDE OF THE GARAGE, THERE'S NO MORE TRASH OR ANYTHING IN THERE NOW, YOU KNOW, IT IS A DAILY, UM, HOW WOULD YOU SAY LIKE I, THERE IS EFFORTS BEING MADE ON A DAILY BASIS.

THIS, UH, FAMILY, THIS HOME HAS BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOREVER.

MY GRANDFATHER WAS ONE OF THE BUILDERS ON THE PROPERTY.

HE HELPED BUILD THE HOUSE AND THE STRUCTURE, AND THEY'RE BURIED.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE'S A CEMETERY AREA RIGHT THERE BESIDE THE GARAGE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

UM, A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF WILLIAM ELLINGTON WHO HAS WORKS FOR THE BARE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, HE JUST NOW IS GETTING HIS, I I, HE'S HELPING ME TO TRY AND GET THE TRANSFER OF THE TITLE ON THE HOUSE SO THAT WE'LL BE ALLOWED TO GET SOME GRANTS AND FUNDS AND OTHER THINGS TO ASSIST US WITH PAYING FOR EVERYTHING UNTIL THEN.

WE DO HAVE MY, UH, CHILDREN'S FATHER IS JAMES NICHOLS, WHO IS GIVING US THE ACTUAL MONEY TO START THE REPAIRS AND STUFF THROUGH THIS COMPANY FROM HIS INCOME TAX RETURN, WHICH I CAN, I DIDN'T WRITE THAT DOWN.

I, BUT I CAN SUPPLY YOU WITH ALL HIS INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING TO SHOW YOU THAT.

AND I AM MAKING EFFORTS AND HE, TO CLEAN IT UP, THE BACK GARAGE IS A GARAGE.

IT IS FOR STORAGE ONLY.

IT WAS OCCUPIED BY SQUATTERS AND IT WASN'T BY PERMISSION GIVEN TO US, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW SQUATTERS CAN JUST COME AND TAKE OVER A PROPERTY, AND WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME GETTING RID OF THESE PEOPLE? BUT I, LET ME ASSURE YOU THAT THEY ARE GONE AND THE DRUG ACTIVITY AND EVERYTHING, THAT WAS ME REPORTING THAT.

I'M THE ONE WHO CALLED OFFICER SOMERVILLE.

A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE, WE ARE CLOSE TO SCHOOLS.

THAT IS A CONCERN.

YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING I WANTED TO DO IS HAVE MY PEE, MY GRANDFATHER AND MY FATHER RESTING SOMEWHERE WHERE THAT ACTIVITY IS GOING ON.

THEY WOULD JUST BE ROLLING OVER INTO THE GRAVE.

IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE, LIKE I SAID, CREATED.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE INHERITED.

IT WAS OUTTA CONTROL, BUT IT IS IN CONTROL NOW.

THAT ACTIVITY IS NO LONGER GOING ON.

THERE'S NO DRUG ACTIVITY WHATSOEVER.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON AT THAT HOUSE AT ANY TIME.

THE, THE ROOF THAT YOU SAW IT, IT HAS BEEN REPAIRED.

I, UM, DON'T HAVE A PRINTER AT HOME.

AND I DID TRY TO TAKE SOME PICTURES AND STUFF IT, BUT, UM, THE CONTRACTORS ARE GOING TO WORK WITH US TO SATISFY Y'ALL, HOPEFULLY, AND GET EVERYTHING REPAIRED AND DONE.

MS. FISHER, YOU ACTUALLY DO LIVE AT THE PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR, I DO.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED THERE? UH, I MOVED IN ON THIS SITUATION ABOUT, UM, THE END OF 23.

RIGHT AROUND THE TIME I CONTACTED OFFICER SUMMERVILLE SOME TIME AFTER THE DEATH.

IT WOULD BE ABOUT, UH, ABOUT A YEAR PRIOR TO ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS PRIOR TO THE, UH, RAID THAT WAS HAPPENING THERE.

AND YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY, YOU I MOVED TO REPAIR THE STRUCTURE, THE, THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

UH, AND YOU DID NOT SPECIFY ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR DESIRES AS FAR AS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

UH, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE ACCESSORY? UH, BUT IT IS A GARAGE.

IT IS A STORAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR STORAGE.

IT, IT DOES HAVE A LONG HISTORY WITH, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, ONCE THEY GET MY FAMILY, AND THAT'S ONLY FOR STORAGE, NOT FOR OCCUPANCY.

AND THE BUILDER SAID THAT THEY COULD PROBABLY, THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THEY WENT IN THERE AND FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS TOO MUCH FOR THEM TO DO THE REPAIRS ON OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT THEY COULD, UH, LEVEL OUT THE CONCRETE AND IT SHOULD BE FINE.

IT SHOULD STRAIGHTEN UP THE ROOF.

THE REASON

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THE ROOF LOOKS ALL SAGGED IN IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT, UM, THE FOUNDATION CRACKED ON ONE SIDE AND IT, IT CAUSED IT TO LOOK THAT WAY, BUT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOTHING BUT FOR STORAGE.

AND THAT'S, DO YOU HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR BOTH OF THOSE STRUCTURES? UH, I HAVE THIRD PARTY ASSISTANCE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, UM, FROM MY, UH, CHILDREN'S FATHER SAID HE WOULD HELP ME MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T LOSE A, THE HOME OR, OR ANYTHING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION OR PROOF THAT, THAT YOU'VE GOT THAT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE? I, I HAVE ALL HIS INFORMATION.

I KNOW IT.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WROTE DOWN FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF, YOU HAVE NOTHING FOR THE BOARD TO, TO LOOK AT TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THAT IS CORRECT.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE BOARD TO PHYSICALLY LOOK AT TODAY.

I, SO, UH, SO, SO IN ESSENCE, YOU ARE PREPARED TO, YOU ARE PREPARED TO SPEND THOUSANDS, UH, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THE PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WE'RE PREPARED, I'M PREPARED TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO FIX AND TO SATISFY, HOPEFULLY SATISFY THE CITY OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

SO THAT WAY IT'S NOT A, NOT CONSIDERED A PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING I WANNA BE IS A PROBLEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF MS. FISHER? UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE HAD THE ROOF ON THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE REPAIRED.

THE ROOF WASN'T LEAKING.

IT LOOKS BAD, BUT PRIOR TO UNCLE RONNIE PASSING AWAY AND EVERYTHING, HE HAD THE ROOF, UH, DONE.

THE INSIDE IS JUST THE WAY, IT WAS JUST KIND OF LEFT.

NOW THE BAGS ARE DOWN AND THE ROOF, THE CEILING ON THE INSIDE, AND WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN, THAT ONE WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SAGGING RIGHT THERE, THAT'S PAINT.

THAT'S A POOR PAINT JOB.

I PULLED THAT DOWN.

THAT'S PAINT.

THAT'S ALL THAT IS, IS PAINT.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHERE THAT SUPPORT BEAM LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS PAINT.

THAT WAS PAINT.

AND SO THE ROOF ISN'T LEAKING ON THE INSIDE, BUT THE, UM, IT IS UNDER THE SUGGESTION OF THESE GUYS TO REPAIR IT, I BELIEVE, TO REDO IT OR, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S UP TO CODE.

SORRY, I BELIEVE THAT THE OFFICER SAID THAT THERE WAS ACTIVE WATER INSIDE THE PROPERTY? NO, MA'AM.

SHE SAID IT WAS NEXT TO THIS, UH, DANGEROUS PREMISE, OFFICER GARZA? YES.

UH, MR. ANDES HAD ASKED IF THERE WAS WATER OBSERVED, UH, COMING WITHIN THE STRUCTURE.

I DID NOT OBSERVE ACTUAL WATER FLOWING WITHIN THE STRUCTURE, BUT I DID OBSERVE, UH, MOISTURE.

IT WAS, YOU COULD TELL THAT THE CEILING WAS WET.

UM, BUT AS FAR AS ACTUAL WATER COMING THROUGH, I DID NOT OBSERVE THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, BEFORE YOU LEAVE FOR THE CODE OFFICER? YES, SIR.

DID YOU, IS THE ROOF WHEN YOU GET, WHEN, WHEN YOU DID THE INSPECTION THE FIRST TIME, DID THE ROOF LOOK IN GOOD CONDITION OTHER THAN THE PART WHERE IT WAS LEAKING ON THE E? UH, I WASN'T ABLE TO VIEW THE FRONT, THE, THE TOP OF THE WHOLE ROOF SYSTEM 'CAUSE IT IS A FLAT ROOF SYSTEM.

BUT THERE WAS INDICATION OF DAMAGE BECAUSE OF THE, THE ROTTEN DETERIORATION.

AND THERE APPEARED TO BE MOLD ON THE OVERHANG.

AND THEN ONCE WE MAKE ENTRY INTO THE INTERIOR, WE WERE ABLE TO SEE, UM, INDICATION OF MOISTURE AND WATER DAMAGE.

OKAY.

UM, ON THE CEILING DUE TO THE DISCOLORATION THAT WAS OBSERVED IN THE PHOTOS AS WELL AS THE DETACHING, UH, CEILING TILES AND, UH, PAINT PEELING.

FOR CLARIFICATION, WHAT YOU SAW DAMAGED WAS THE EAVE AREA OUTSIDE? YES.

VISUALLY.

THE OTHERS WAS, WAS INTERIOR? YES, SIR.

IT'S JUST MOISTURE IN THERE.

AND IT COULD COME FROM BEHIND THE YES.

TOO TIGHT AS WELL? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, FOR THE, UM, I CAN'T SAY PROPERTY OWNER 'CAUSE YOU LEGALLY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY.

WELL, I, I I GUESS THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.

WE HAVE FILED THE AFFIDAVIT OF AIRSHIP PAPERS.

WELL, YEAH, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S IN LIMBO CODE, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE I YES, SIR.

THAT IS STILL ON IT, CORRECT? YES, SIR.

THAT IS CORRECT.

WITH THAT SAID, YOU MOVED IN TO THE PROPERTY? YES, SIR.

UH, AROUND SEPTEMBER, 2024 WHEN THE N NO, SIR, I MOVED IN PRIOR TO THAT TRAIN.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YES, SIR.

YOU MOVED IN BEFORE THE SEPTEMBER, 2024? CORRECT.

OKAY.

WHEN THEY HAD ALL THAT JUNK OUT THERE, WHO'S WAS THAT PICTURE OF ALL THAT JUNK? IS THAT WAS THE PERSON THAT WAS IN, THAT WAS THE PERSON THAT WAS, UH, STAYING OUT IN THE REAR STRUCTURE OF THE PLACE.

NOW THERE WAS ALSO MY UNCLE RONNIE'S GIRLFRIEND WHO WAS INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

AND, AND WE WERE HAVING A REAL HARD TIME GETTING RID OF THESE PEOPLE, SO THERE WAS THEIR IDEA, OKAY, WELL MICHELLE JUST GO MOVE IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, THEY'LL LEAVE.

OKAY, WELL, THAT'S NOT THE WAY THEY GO.

SO YOUR INTENT WAS YES, SIR.

IS TO REPAIR THE HOUSE? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

DID YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH STAFF BEFORE YOU CAME HERE? UH, I, I DIDN'T, I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH STAFF AND, UM, I

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GUESS YOU COULD SAY THAT MEETING WAS, DIDN'T, UM, DIDN'T GO WELL, DIDN'T GO WELL AT ALL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST CASE.

IN THAT MEETING, DID YOU HAVE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE BIG SCREEN? THAT'S THE CONTRACTOR'S PIECE, CORRECT? CORRECT.

CORRECT.

THE CONTRACTOR'S PIECE WAS NOT IN THAT MEETING? NO, SIR.

WE HAVE JUST, UH, RECENTLY GOTTEN OUT.

SO THIS IS HOW LONG, HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THIS, UH, SINCE HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD THIS? UM, I'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE GUYS.

THEY JUST PRINTED THIS UP FOR ME RECENTLY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

BEEN SO FROM MARCH 10TH TO TO NOW, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU HAD, IT WAS MARCH 10TH, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

AND THAT INCLUDES, DO YOU, DID THEY SAY YOU STAYED THERE OR NOT, OR ARE YOU GONNA STAY THERE WHEN THE REPAIRS ARE BEING MADE? THAT WAS MY INTENT WAS TO STAY THERE.

NOBODY ELSE IS LIVING THERE NOW.

MY SISTER MOVED INTO THE PROPERTY NOW THAT NOBODY ELSE IS THERE.

IT'S JUST MYSELF, MY COMMON LAW HUSBAND OF EIGHT YEARS, AND MY SISTER AND THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM, 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO, MY, THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM MY CHILDREN'S FATHER, MY EX-HUSBAND.

OKAY.

OKAY.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT STATING THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE FINANCIAL BACKING, CORRECT? UH, NO, SIR, I DO.

I, I DID NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO PUT TOGETHER.

I REALLY WAS TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER FOR Y'ALL.

I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THAT.

NO, NO.

DON'T.

BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO GO THROUGH THIS AND IT'S, IT, IT IS A LOT.

AND IT'S VERY EMOTIONAL AND IT'S VERY SCARY TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL, ALL WE HAVE.

THAT'S ALL OUR, I MEAN, IT'S, SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.

THE TIMELINE, WHAT WERE YOU LOOKING AT AS TIMELINE FOR REPAIRING THE, THE HOUSE PROBABLY IN ORDER TO GET EVERYTHING DONE WOULD BE PROBABLY SIX MONTHS TO EVEN LONGER.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AS FAR AS WHEN ARE WE LOOKING TO START THE PROJECT? WELL, WE'RE NOT.

OKAY, BECAUSE THAT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE QUITE A WHILE.

I BELIEVE THEY SAID, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW.

MY, I THINK IT'S SIX MONTHS TO, TO I'M TALKING TO HIM.

IT IS GONNA TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO GET EVERYTHING UP.

RIGHT.

SO WITH ALL THAT HAPPENING YES, SIR.

AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF THAT GOES WITH IT, RIGHT? THE, THE BUILDING IN THE BACK, YOU'RE, ARE YOU ASKING US TO ALLOW THAT TO BE REPAIRED AS WELL? 'CAUSE IT'S ON, THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE DEMOED? UH, YES, SIR.

UH, WELL, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS, UM, A REEVALUATION OF THAT BUILDING TO MAKE, TO SEE IF IT CAN BE SAVED.

IF IT'S, IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY, OKAY, ALL RIGHT, THIS PLACE IS A DANGEROUS PLACE AND I WANNA KEEP IT.

NO, BUT IT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS BUILT BY MY GRANDFATHER'S HANDS AND IT, IT IS RIGHT THERE WHERE THEIR CEMETERY IS RIGHT ATTACHED TO THAT IN, IN THE ONE IN THE BACK PART.

SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT IF, IF IT, IF IT COULD BE SAVED AND USED FOR STORAGE, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T SEE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.

DID THIS BID, DID THIS BID HERE, WHEN THEY GAVE YOU THAT, DID THAT INCLUDE THE GARAGE AS WELL? UH, YES SIR.

THEY WERE SPEAKING OF THE GARAGE AS WELL, WHEN AS A REPAIR.

AND THE ONLY THING THEY SAID WAS THE CONCRETE HAD TO BE RELEVELED AND THE HOUSE WOULD, OUR, THE GARAGE WOULD BE, WELL, BASICALLY, YEAH, BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT'S JUST A STORAGE UNIT, WE'RE JUST MO MAINLY FOCUSING ON GETTING THE HOUSE UP TO CODE, SEE THE GARAGE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO EVERYTHING IS REPAIR AND YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT SIX MONTHS YOU HAVE FINANCIAL BACKING? YES, SIR.

AND YOU GAVE US THIS YES, SIR.

ENGINEER'S REPORT.

HAVE YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH THE CONTRACTORS? UH, NO SIR.

I CAN'T SAY THAT I HAVE NO, SIR.

I, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

NOW SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ON THE PROPERTY AND THE INDIVIDUAL WAS REMOVED, HAS ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS COME TO TRY TO TAKE OVER THE OH GOD, GOD, NO.

NO, SIR.

NO, SIR.

THAT WAS NOT ANYTHING THAT I CREATED.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I INHERITED.

I'M NOT SAYING IT.

I'M JUST ASKING IF RIGHT, RIGHT.

NO, SIR.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

OKAY.

AND, AND ALSO WHEN THEY DID THEIR, UM, THE ONE INVESTIGATION WHERE SHE TOOK THE LAST PICTURES AND SHE BROUGHT THE OFFICERS THAT DO PATROL THAT AREA, AND HE DID, HE DID TELL MS. GARZA AS WELL AS ME THAT, YOU KNOW, NO, SINCE, SO SINCE THE GUY'S BEEN GONE, THAT THE PROBLEM'S BEEN GONE, THAT THEY PASSED BY AND EVERYTHING IS NORMAL, THAT THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON THERE.

THERE'S BEEN NO MORE REPORTS SINCE THEN OR ANYTHING GOING ON.

AND WHEN YOU, AND I'M GONNA SAY 'CAUSE YOU WERE PROACTIVE OF TRYING TO GET THIS YES, ABSOLUTELY.

YES SIR.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DEALING, YOUR FATHER WAS DEALING WITH THIS BEFORE? MY UNCLE.

MY UNCLE WAS, YES, SIR.

SO FROM THAT POINT ON, AND THEN YOU GOT IT, HOW LONG WOULD YOU SAY THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON? UH, IT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE, UH, 2022 IS HOW LONG IT HAD WENT ON.

AND THAT'S WHEN I SOUGHT OUT, UH, OFFICER SOMERVILLE'S ASSISTANCE WITH DART, THE DART UNIT ON, UH, JANUARY 9TH, 2024 AFTER THE EVICTION WAS ONCE AGAIN SET OFF OFFSET.

UH,

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THANK YOU FOR, IN TRYING TO, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T TRY TO GET THEIR OWN PROPERTY SQUARED AWAY.

NO, NO, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY MUCH.

AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIR.

YES, SIR.

IS THE PAGE THAT WE'RE SHOWING ON SCREEN THE ONLY PAGE WE'VE GOT, OR DO WE HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT SHOWING LATER ON DOWN THE SCREEN? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

YEAH.

THEY DON'T HAVE A TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT.

AND HAVE THEY EVER QUOTED A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR YOU IN TERMS OF TOTAL REPAIR? UH, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE AMOUNT, AND I MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING IN MY FOLDER OVER HERE.

I I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A LOT.

I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A LOT.

AND, AND ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF US GETTING THE PROPERTY TRANSFERRED INTO OUR NAME, WE'LL BE A LOT ELIGIBLE TO AS TIME, YOU KNOW, TO GET, GET SOME OTHER ASSISTANCE IN GETTING THE, THE PROPERTY REPAIRED.

SURE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MA'AM.

LEGAL HAS A FEW QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLARIFYING THE RECORD.

YES, SIR.

UH, MS. FISHER, UM, UH, IS IT YOUR STATEMENT TODAY THAT THE REASON THAT THE DART UNIT DID AN INSPECTION ON YOUR PROPERTY IS BECAUSE YOU INITIATED THE DART UNIT? UH, SIR, MY, MY, UH, TESTIMONY TODAY, WHICH I HAVE MY CELL PHONE MESSAGE I CAN SHOW YOU RIGHT NOW ON MY PHONE, WAS IT ON, UH, JANUARY 9TH, 2024, UH, I HAD CONTACTED OFFICER SOMERVILLE OF THE DART UNIT IN ORDER TO FIND SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM I WAS HAVING, AND HE RETURNED MY PHONE CALL AND I HAVE THE, THE, THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE VOICEMAIL RIGHT HERE ON MY PHONE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.

SIR, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M INITIATING ANYTHING.

I, I'M, I UNDERSTAND THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING YOUR JOB AND EVERYTHING.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO OVERSPEAK THAT I, I ASKED A DIRECT QUESTION.

ARE YOU, ARE YOU STATING TO THE BOARD TODAY THAT THE REASON THAT THE DART UNIT INSPECTED YOUR PROPERTY IS BECAUSE YOU INITIATED THAT? BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM IS THAT YOU AND MR. SOMERVILLE, OFFICER SOMERVILLE CASUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DART UNIT AND THE DART UNIT DECIDED TO GO ONTO THE PROPERTY BECAUSE YOU SPOKE TO MR. SOMERVILLE.

SIR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE EXCUSE OFFICER, SOMETHING.

HOLD, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUTTING SOME WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

I'M SORRY.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT, THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY.

MA, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT ANY WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, AND I APOLOGIZE IF, IF IT SEEMED LIKE IT.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY TODAY IS ACCORDING TO YOUR TESTIMONY THAT IT WAS OFFICER YOU AND OFFICER SOMERVILLE THAT INITIATED THE DART INSPECTION.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE WANTING THE BOARD TO BELIEVE TODAY, SIR? I'M SORRY.

WHAT I HAD TESTIFIED TO WAS THAT ON JANUARY THE NINTH OF 2024, I CONTACTED OFFICER SUMMERVILLE AND HE RETURNED MY PHONE CALL AND I HAD ASKED HIM ABOUT THE DART UNIT ASSISTING ME IN, IN GETTING RID OF THE PROBLEM THAT I WAS HAVING ON THE PROPERTY.

AND I WASN'T ABLE TO YOU, THAT'S WHAT I TESTIFIED TO.

OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ALREADY INITIATED.

I APPRECIATE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL DO.

THAT'S, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU DO.

I, IF IT WAS INITIATED BEFORE THAT OR NOT, SIR.

OKAY.

UH, I'M NOT TRYING TO DISRESPECT ANYBODY OR TAKE SOME SORT OF, OH, HEY, LOOK HERE, I'M SOME KIND OF HERO CLAIM.

NO, SIR.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M DOING.

I'M, I'M STATING THE FACT THAT THAT IS A FACT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I, I, I HOPE I DIDN'T, I HOPE MY QUESTION DIDN'T MAKE YOU THINK THAT WAY, AND I APOLOGIZE IF IT DID.

LET ME, LET ME, LET ME, UM, UH, HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU, MA'AM.

ON THE DAY OF THE DART INSPECTION.

UM, ISN'T IT CORRECT, MA'AM, THAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE UPSET THAT EVERYBODY WAS THERE AND QUESTIONING WHILE EVERYBODY WAS THERE? NO.

OKAY.

UM, ALSO, I, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS CORRECT.

THAT WASN'T CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

AND IF IT'S, IF I'M INCORRECT, YOU CAN TELL ME.

UM, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT WAS ARRESTED THAT DAY, IS THAT CORRECT? AT THE DART INSPECTION? YES, SIR.

ARE YOU AWARE? YES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

THANK GOD, WHAT WAS THAT GENTLEMAN'S NAME? UH, HE, HIS NAME WAS JAMES.

OKAY.

AND IS THAT THE SAME PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPING YOU AND ASSISTING YOU WITH THE MONEY? NO, SIR.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

THAT'S THE PERSON THAT WAS SQUATTING ON THE PROPERTY THAT MY UNCLE WAS AFRAID OF, THAT WE HAD TRIED SINCE 2022 TO RID HIM OF A PROPERTY THAT WAS SQUATTING THAT I HAD TALKED TO OFFICER SOMERVILLE.

OKAY.

ABOUT ASSISTING HIM AND REMOVING HIM? NO, SIR.

NOT AT ALL.

OKAY.

I, I, I GUESS THE, THE CLARIFICATION I'M LOOKING FOR IS 'CAUSE I, I, AND I COULD HAVE HEARD, I, I COULD HAVE MISHEARD.

I, I BELIEVE THAT YOU STATED THAT THERE WAS A JAMES THAT WAS GOING TO BE ASSISTING YOU IN, IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE FINANCES.

AND YES, SIR.

PLEASE ALLOW ME TO FINISH THE FINANCES, EVERYTHING.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE, IS THAT A DIFFERENT JAMES? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MS. FISHER, YOU MAY BE SEATED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UM, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8 2 9 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE IS NOT A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND IS FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME.

I MOVE THAT THE, UM, THAT REPAIRS

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S UM, AS STATED, BE COMPLETED WITHIN SIX MONTHS BECAUSE THERE I CANNOT, 'CAUSE THERE'S NO FUNDS OR I CAN DO, 'CAUSE THERE'S A SCOPE OF WORK, POINT OF ORDER.

STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

UM, YOU DIDN'T READ OUT THE VIOLATIONS.

OH, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT FIRST.

SHE, SHE HAS NOT, NOT HAD A CHANCE TO COMPLETE THE MOTION.

WR SHE'S ASKING A QUESTION, BUT SHE WENT, SHE WENT READ THE REPAIRS AND NOT THE VERY GOOD.

AND SHE, YOU, AND THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS YOU DIDN'T READ OUT THE, OKAY.

BEFORE I DO THAT, UM, COUNSEL, CAN I GIVE LARGER, LONGER THAN 30 DAYS BECAUSE SHE HAS A SCOPE OF WORK? YES, YOU CAN.

HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE HER SIX MONTHS OR LONGER THAN, UM, 90 DAYS, UH, THERE EITHER NEEDS TO BE, UM, IT'S ENCOURAGED TO EITHER ASK FOR, UM, MONEY TO BE PUT DOWN, UM, GIVE UP TO 90 DAYS WITH INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.

YOU CAN GIVE UP TO 90 DAYS WITH THE INFORMATION IS PROVIDED.

OKAY.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8 2 9 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE IS, UM, IS FEASIBLE, BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS NOT, UM, SORRY, AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56, UM, MAIN 1, 2 8 11, 12 15, 17, AND 18 ACCESSORY 1, 2, 5 7 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

UM, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY AT 8 2 9 WEST HUTCHINS PLACE, UM, BE REPAIRED WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDERED AS PER THE SCOPE OF WORK PROVIDED FOR CHAIR'S.

CLARIFICATION, THE REPAIR IS FOR BOTH THE MAIN AND THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

CORRECT? VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8 29 WEST HUTCHINS IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PROCEEDING CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME, BUT IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56.

FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE, SUB CODES 1, 2, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

AND FOR THE ACCESSION STRUCTURE, 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, THAT THE STRUCTURES TO BE REPAIRED IN 90 DAYS.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

WITH A FRIENDLY STATE, YOUR FRIENDLY IS THAT CODE, UH, GET AN OR GO BY THE PROPERTY FOR AN UPDATE EVERY 30 DAYS.

I WILL ACCEPT PRE AMENDMENT IS THAT THE CODE OFFICER WOULD INSPECT THE STRUCTURE EVERY 30 DAYS.

AND YOU'VE SECONDED THAT CORRECTION.

IT WOULD BE NOT JUST THE STRUCTURE, IT'D BE THE BOTH STRUCTURES.

BOTH STRUCTURES, YES.

THIS OFFICER, UH, CHRISTY GARZO STAFF WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE, UM, THE PROPERTY BE VACATED UNTIL RE UH, REPAIRS ARE MADE WITH PROPER PERMITS.

FREE AMENDMENT IS TO VACATE THE PROPERTY AND UTILITIES REMAIN DISCONNECTED.

UTILITIES REMAIN DISCONNECTED.

I'LL ACCEPT, I ACCEPT THE MOTION IS, THANK YOU.

ACCEPTED THE AMENDMENT, UH, TO VACATE AND TO DISCONNECT UTILITIES, UH, IS ACCEPTED BY VOTE AND ALSO SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION? IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, IT IS BEING OCCUPIED BY THE SAID OWNER.

I MEAN, I KNOW SHE'S NOT THE OWNER, BUT THAT'S HER, HER PLACE OF RESIDE.

THAT'S WHERE SHE LIVES.

YEAH, THAT'S WHERE SHE, YES.

SO WHAT IF SHE HAS NO PLACE TO GO? CAN STAFF, UH, CHAIR, UM, COUNSEL? I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE WAS A NOTICE TO VACATE ON THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT WAS DISREGARDED BY, UM, ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY AT THAT PROPERTY.

UM, AND THE, UM, UH, THE, I I DO BELIEVE THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES WERE STILL A PROBLEM AT THE TIME, UH, WHICH IS WHY THEY ENDED UP BEING, UH, DISCONNECTED.

YEAH.

BUT WHEN SHE WAS ASKED IF SHE LIVED THERE BY A BOARD MEMBER, SHE SAID YES.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

SHE, SHE, WHAT SHE DID, SHE JUST DISREGARDED THE NOTICE TO VACATE DUE TO THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES.

COUNSEL, MAY I INTERJECT SOMETHING HERE? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD VACATE.

I DID NOT HEAR IT IN THE ACTUAL THAT I, I HEARD.

SO QUESTION IS TO THE CODE OFFICER, WAS

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THERE AN ORDER FOR VACATE THAT WE DID NOT HEAR? 'CAUSE I DID NOT HEAR IT EITHER.

YES, SIR.

UM, I APOLOGIZE.

IT WASN'T, UM, IN MY PRESENTATION, BUT, UM, MY COMMENT, MY COMMENTS ARE OPEN TO YOU GUYS.

SO THE NOTICE TO VACATE, LET ME GET BACK TO MY NOTES.

THE NOTICE TO VACATE WAS ISSUED AND POSTED AT THE PROPERTY IN DECEMBER 3RD, 2024.

UM, PRIOR TO THAT, UH, THE OCCUPANTS WERE OFFERED ASSISTANCE BY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING DEPARTMENT DURING THE INITIAL INSPECTION ON, UH, IN AUGUST.

UH, ALSO AT THE CONFERENCE THAT WAS, UH, HELD AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ALSO IN AUGUST.

UM, AS WELL AS MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS, UM, PRIOR TO THE NO NOTICE TO VACATE BEING ISSUED.

UM, AND AGAIN, UH, IN FEBRUARY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

AND THE OCCUPANT REFUSE SERVICE.

SHE TOOK THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, UM, BUT HAS NOT, UM, RETURN TO FOLLOW UP.

UM, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, SINCE THERE HAS BEEN, UM, DOCUMENTATION OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY FROM SQUATTERS AT THE PROPERTY THAT HAVE FINALLY BEEN REMOVED, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE POSSIBILITY OF SQUATTERS COMING BACK INTO THE PROPERTY IF THE OWNER MOVES OUT FOR, UH, REPAIRS? UM, UNFORTUNATELY I'M NOT FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT, UM, AS I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION DURING MY LAST INSPECTION THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN FEBRUARY, THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DID NOT APPEAR TO BE OCCUPIED.

UM, AND THE ONLY INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE PRESENT ON THE PROPERTY WAS, UM, MS. UH, MS. FISHER AS WELL AS HER SISTER, MS. TANKERSLEY, MR. CHAIR.

UM, WE DO, AND I, I I WANT TO GENTLY REMIND THE, THE BOARD, UH, THAT WE DO HAVE NHSD, UM, HERE PRESENT AND CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO ANY SERVICES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN OR WERE, UM, OFFERED.

COUNSEL, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? SURE.

FOR NOW, REOPENING THE CASE, SHOULD WE TABLE THAT CASE AND NOW HERE OTHER ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE? NO, I'M GOOD.

I I I DON'T KNOW WHAT A ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE YOU'RE ASKING.

I I I, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, MS. ROSEN WAS ASKING ABOUT, UM, UM, AND OR SOME OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WERE ASKING ABOUT, WERE ANY SERVICES IN REGARDS TO WHERE THEY'RE LIVING.

SO I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD, THERE WAS SOMEBODY HERE THAT CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THIS BOARD IF THAT IS STILL A CONCERN.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THE BOARD IS DISCUSSING AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP.

SHOULD HAVE.

SO DOES THAT NOT, I I, I, THE LEGAL PURPOSES OPEN UP ANOTHER, IT COULD IF THIS BOARD, IF, IF THIS BOARD FEELS LIKE, UH, THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE NEEDED TO FINALIZE ANY DECISION THAT YOU MAKE.

BUT, UM, I I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT, IT SHOULD, IT'S GOING TO NECESSARILY CHANGE.

I'M GOING TO ALLOW, THE REASON I'M GOING TO ALLOW IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE PERSON MAKING THE MOTION, AND IT WAS SECONDED BY THE PERSON WHO MADE THE SECOND.

THEREFORE, I WILL ALLOW IT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT NOW THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HASH THE CASE AGAIN, I'M JUST CLARIFYING THAT WE'RE CHAIR, GOOD CHAIR IS AND I HEAR YOU MR. ANDERS, I THINK YOU THE, UH, CHAIR IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT REHASHING EVIDENCE.

VERY GOOD.

OKAY.

MATTER DISCUSSION.

AND THE DISCUSSION IS, IS LET, LET ME CLARIFY THE SECOND MOTION THAT HAS TO BE MADE BY THE BOARD, CORRECT? AND NOT STAFF, IS THAT CORRECT COUNSEL? NO, NO, PLEASE, PLEASE.

ASK ME THE QUESTION AGAIN.

I'M SORRY.

WHEN IT WAS GIVEN TO US ABOUT THE VACATE, WHICH WE ALL JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE STAFF, IS THERE, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN ALL AMENDMENTS FROM THE BOARD? CORRECT.

THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WAS PRESENTED BY STAFF MEMBER TO INCLUDE VACATE AND DISCONNECT UTILITIES.

UH, THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT AN ACCEPTABLE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT MOTION OR IS IT SUPPOSED TO COME FROM THE BOARD? I'LL RESOLVE THE DISCUSSION AND I'LL MAKE THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

WELL, I WAS GONNA, I WAS GONNA, I'LL, I'LL MAKE THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

I WAS GONNA MAKE IT AND ADD SOME THE OTHER PART TOO.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, LET JUST SAY THIS, UM, HER ADVOCATING FOR IT, UM, IT STILL WOULD NEED TO COME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD BY A BOARD MEMBER FOR IT TO REPORT IT.

THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS TAKE HER THAT AND ADD IN THE OTHER FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO VACATE, CUT OFF ALL UTILITIES AND

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SECURE THE PROPERTY UNTIL IT IS REPAIRED.

WOULD THAT BE AN ACCEPTABLE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT'S MADE BY MR. ANDES? DOES THE INDIVIDUAL MAKING THE MOTION AGREE WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? UM, WHEN YOU SAY SECURE, WHAT ARE YOU IMAGINING? WELL, JUST LOCKING THE, LOCKING THE PROPERTY OR HAS TO BE BOARDED.

UH, IF YOU'RE GETTING OUT OF THERE, THE, TO SECURE THE PROPERTY MEANS BOARD WINDOWS AND THE BACK STRUCTURES.

WELL, SO OTHERS DON'T COME IN UNTIL THE PROPERTY IS BROUGHT UP TO CODE.

SO SOMEONE'S GONNA BE WORKING INSIDE THE HOUSE WITH NO ELECTRICITY AND NO LIGHT FROM WINDOWS.

THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING.

AND WE, ON THE FRONT, WHEN THEY SAY CUT UTILITIES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

THEY CAN HAVE THE UTILITIES PUT BACK ON WHEN THEY'RE WORKING OR BRING A GENERATOR WHILE THEY'RE WORKING.

THAT'S TO SECURE VACATE AND CUT OFF ALL UTILITIES.

SO THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS WILL STAY LIKE THAT.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY JUST ASKED FOR.

BUT THEY CAN'T ASK FOR THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

WE, THE BOARD HAS TO ASK IT.

YEAH, I'M JUST MAKING SURE.

SO HOW, IF WE'RE SAYING THAT THEY NEED TO CUT UTILITIES, BUT IF EVERYTHING'S BOARDED UP, THEN THEY'RE GONNA NEED ELECTRICITY INSIDE THE HOUSE TO SEE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, ONCE YOU GET A PERMIT FOR ANY ELECTRICAL OR INFORMATION THAT YOU DO, THEY WILL PUT A TEMPORARY, UH, LOOP IN FOR THAT.

OKAY.

IN REGARDS TO THE SECURING, UM, UH, THAT, THAT SECURING WOULD BE, UM, UH, PURSUANT TO, UM, I WANNA SAY IT'S APPENDIX.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT APPEND, BUT IT'S GONNA BE, UH, PURSUANT TO HOW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REQUEST MM-HMM.

PROPERTY I ACCEPT BE SECURED AND I ACCEPT THE, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE SECOND I ACCEPT YOU.

YOU DID HOWEVER, ADD THE SECURE, THE SECURE WAS NOT MADE IN THE, IN THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO LET ME REPEAT.

WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THE MOTION, UH, THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8 29 WEST HUTCHINS IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE FOR CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 15 SEVEN, WHICH IS FEASIBLE BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME, BUT IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56, SUB CODES FOR THE MAIN 1, 2, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

AND FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, SUB CODES 1 12, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, THAT THE PROPERTY IS TO BE REPAIRED IN 90 DAYS.

IT IS TO BE SECURED, IT IS TO BE VACATED AND UTILITIES DISCONNECTED UNTIL PROPER PERMITS ARE ADMINISTERED.

AND THAT'S THE MOTION.

THERE WAS ALSO THE PART ABOUT THE SECURE, UH, CODE GETTING AN UPDATE.

THANK YOU.

AND A 30 DAY UPDATE, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND A REVIEW BY THE CODE OFFICER EVERY 30 DAYS.

THAT'S JUST, THAT'S THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND GOOD.

AND I ASSUME THAT YOU'RE SECONDING THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? I, I AM, I AM SECONDING THAT.

JUST FOR VERIFICATION, I'VE GOT A NOD FROM THE PERSON WHO MADE THE MOTION AND A NOD, A VERBAL RATHER FROM THE SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL PLEASE.

NO MA'AM.

I'M SORRY, WE'RE INTO A MOTION.

DWAYNE NELSON.

AYE.

FRED ANDES.

AYE.

JOEL SOLI.

AYE.

DR. LINDA LOPEZ.

RODRIGUEZ.

AYE.

COURTNEY ROSEN.

AYE.

PAUL HERNANDEZ AYE.

MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.

THANK YOU MS. FISHER.

YOU CAN ASK THE CODE OFFICER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, UH, BUT THE BOARD HAS COMPLETED THE ACTION.

OUR NEXT CASE IS GONNA BE 9 23 NORTHWEST 24TH STREET.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

BOARD MEMBERS ALL READY? GOOD AFTERNOON.

YES.

ARE YOU READY? FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ARIAN BLEDSO, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 9 2 3 NORTHWEST 24TH STREET WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR REPAIR IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS PROPERTY IS BEING HEARD BEFORE THIS BOARD.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 36 26, BLOCK 27, LOT 27, 28, AND 29, LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS BASSA DAVID ETAL WITH THE MAILING ADDRESS OF 1 0 3 8 REAVER STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 7.

ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED.

THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS ARE PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THIS CASE, MARY BETA AND MICHAEL DL DODI.

I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT CORRECTLY.

CONTACT WAS MADE WITH MARY BETA.

THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED

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ON MARCH 12TH, 2025 THAT THIS PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOT NOTIFICATION PROCESS.

THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 9 2 3 NORTHWEST 24TH STREET WAS CONDUCTED IN MARCH, 2018.

AN ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON APRIL 20TH, 2018, AND A CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED.

A 90 DAY BSB REPAIR ORDER WAS ISSUED ON DECEMBER 10TH, 2020.

THE BSB ORDER EXPIRED ON JANUARY 21ST, 2021.

A SECOND PRE-BOARD CONFERENCE HEARING WAS HELD WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ON FEBRUARY 11TH, 2025 ON FEBRUARY 26TH, 2025.

THE NOTICE FOR THE SECOND BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO THE OWNER ON FEBRUARY 26TH, 2025.

THE NOTICE FOR THE SECOND BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 9 2 3 NORTHWEST 24TH STREET.

A SCOPE OF WORK, FINANCIAL PROOF, AND AN ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS OF TODAY, MARCH 13TH, 2025.

ON FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025, A COMMERCIAL EDITION PERMIT WAS ISSUED ON FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025.

A COMMERCIAL REMODEL PERMIT WAS ISSUED.

THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WERE TAKEN ON MARCH 7TH, 2025.

PICTURE PRESENTATION CONSISTS OF A SINGLE STORY, MAIN STRUCTURE AND DILAPIDATED CONDITION WITH FIRE DAMAGE TO THE REAR.

HERE IS JUST SHOWING THAT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT HAS NO STRUCTURAL ISSUES.

THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION WHERE YOU CAN SEE IN THE MIDDLE THERE IS A SAG IN THE ROOF.

THE ROOF IS SAGGING IN THE MIDDLE AND THE WOOD SIDING AT THE BOTTOM IS MISSING.

THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION WHERE YOU CAN SEE WORN SHINGLES AND FACIAL BOARD AND A CONTINUATION OF THE MISSING WOOD SIDING AT THE BOTTOM.

THIS IS THE LEFT ELEVATION WHERE YOU CAN SEE MISSING WOOD SIDING.

UNDER THE ROOF PITCH, THE REMAINING WOOD SIDING AND FACIAL BOARDS ARE CHARRED AND THERE ARE WOOD POSTS ON THE WALL THAT ARE PLACED ON THE WALL ON THE RIGHT SIDE UNDER THE OVERHANG.

AND ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE IS A METAL POST THAT IS BENT AND THIS IS JUST A VIEW OF THE REAR ELEVATION GOING BACK TO THE FRONT ELEVATION.

LOOKING MORE TO THE LEFT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE A CLOSEUP OF THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROOF THAT IS, UH, THAT'S LOWERED, THAT IS SAGGING, AND ALSO THE WORN AND DETERIORATED SHINGLES.

GOING BACK TO THE LEFT ELEVATION.

UNDER THE ROOF, UNDER THE ROOF OF THERE IS AN ATTACHED, UH, PORCH OVERHANG.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT, THE CORRUGATED METAL IS DETACHING AND BOW DOWNWARD.

AND ALSO YOU CAN SEE THE MISSING WALL SIDING HERE.

YOU CAN SEE A VIEW AS YOU ENTER FIRST INTO THE PROPERTY AND WE WILL BE IN THE SECOND TO THE NEXT PHO.

UH, NEXT PHOTOS YOU WILL SEE, WE'RE GONNA ENTER THAT ROOM TO THE RIGHT.

BUT THERE IS, UH, THE MISSING DRYWALL ON THE CEILING AND THIS IS A CLOSEUP OF THAT MISSING DRYWALL ON THE CEILING, LOOKING IN THE EXACT SAME STANDING IN THE EXACT SAME DIRECTION.

UH, THE CEILING DECKING IS BOW DOWNWARD AND THERE IS WATER DAMAGE.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DARKNESS IN THIS PHOTO HERE.

UH, HOWEVER, THERE THIS ROOM HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS MISSING, UH, UH, CEILING DECKING.

THIS IS A CLOSEUP OF THAT MISSING CEILING DECKING.

LOOKING UP IN THE SAME, UM, POSITION.

THIS IS A VIEW OF ONE OF THE BATHROOMS, UH, TO THE BOTTOM MIDDLE OF THE PHOTO.

THERE IS THE, UH, FLOOR IS RAISED AS IF THE TOWELS WERE COVERING SOME TYPE OF PIPING, WHICH IS A TRIPPING HAZARD.

AND TO THE LEFT, THERE IS DETACHING DRYWALL.

THIS IS A VIEW OF ANOTHER, UH, ROOM IN THE PROPERTY.

UH, THE FLOOR SURFACE DOES CONTAIN SOME SEPARATION.

I KNOW THAT THE PHOTO IS DARK, UM, BUT THERE IS FLOOR, THE, THE FLOOR SURFACE DOES CONTAIN SEPARATION AND IS DETERIORATED.

THIS IS A VIEW OF THE KITCHEN AREA.

IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT, THERE IS A LARGE HOLE IN THE WALL AND THAT'S HOW YOU ENTER INTO THE REAR STRUCTURE OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, ENTERING INTO THE REAR STRUCTURE OF THE PROPERTY, IT IS RAISED, WHICH IS A TRIP IN HAZARD.

LOOKING UP IN THAT SAME DIRECTION, THERE IS A LARGE HOLE IN THE KITCHEN.

ENTERING INTO THAT HOLE IN THE WALL.

THIS IS A SECOND, APPEARS TO BE A SECOND KITCHEN AREA WITH THE

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DETERIORATED FLOOR SURFACE.

LOOKING UP ABOVE THE STOVE IN THAT SAME AREA, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE CHARRED CEILING JOISTS, CHARRED RAFTERS, AND CHARRED, UH, CEILING DECKING.

AND LOOKING TO THE RIGHT, STANDING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, YOU CAN SEE THAT HOLE, A CLOSEUP OF THAT HOLE THAT'S IN THE, THE WALL, WHICH WAS THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE PREVIOUS PHOTOS.

GOING IN, EXITING THAT KITCHEN AREA AND GOING INTO THE REAR ROOM, YOU CAN SEE THE FLOOR SURFACE DOES CONTAIN WATER DAMAGE.

THERE IS SEPARATION ON ALL SIDES WHERE THE WALL MEETS THE FLOOR SURFACE.

AND ALSO THERE IS MISSING AND DETACHING CEILING DRYWALL.

WALKING TO THE END OF THAT ROOM, LOOKING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, YOU CAN SEE THE MISSING AND DET A CONTINUATION OF THE MISSING AND DETACHING DRYWALL.

AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE THERE IS A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE FLOOR, UH, SURFACE AND THE WALL.

AND ALSO THERE'S TWO, UH, WALL STUDS THAT ARE LEAN THAT ARE SHIFTING TO THE LEFT.

AND THE ONE THAT'S FURTHER BACK, IT DOES HAVE THE USE OF WOOD FOR SHIFT TO SHORE IT UP.

AND GOING PAST THE FAN, LOOKING TO THE RIGHT, THIS IS JUST A HOLE OF IN THE WALL THAT IS ALLOWING IN NATURAL LIGHT.

THIS IS A SINGLE STORY.

LO THIS IS A SINGLE STORY STRUCTURE LOCATED WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF OGDEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THE EXTERIOR WALLS ARE WORN, DETERIORATED, AND THE REAR WALL UNDER THE ROOF PITCH IS MISSING.

THE REMAINING WOOD SIGNING IN THAT AREA IS CHARRED.

THE ROOF IS SAGGING IN THE MIDDLE AND THE PORCH ROOF AT THE REAR IS DETACHING.

THE INTERIOR WALL AT THE REAR IS SEPARATING FROM THE FLOOR SURFACE.

THE WALL IN THE SECOND KITCHEN AREA CONTAINS A LARGE HOLE EXPOSING CHARRED CEILING JOISTS AND RAFTERS.

THE CEILING DECKING AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE CONTAINS WATER DAMAGE AND IS BOWING DOWNWARD.

TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 9 2 3 NORTHWEST 24TH STREET IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6 1 5 6.

SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

FOR THE MAIN IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING OR HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY, OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS REPAIR FOR THE MAIN.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 9 2 3 NORTHWEST 24TH STREET.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE CODE OFFICER? GO AHEAD.

UM, WHY IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION REPAIR AND NOT, UM, DEMOLITION? THE REASON WHY MY, MY RECOMMENDATION IS REPAIR IS BECAUSE AFTER THE FIRST BOARD ORDER, MS UH, MS. BETA, SHE TOOK THE STEPS THAT SHE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD TO MAKING THE REPAIRS.

SHE WAS IN THE PROCESS.

I WAS ASSIGNED TO THE CASE IN AUGUST OF 2024.

AND ONCE I WAS ASSIGNED TO THE CASE, I IMMEDIATELY CONDUCTED RESEARCH AND I DETERMINED THAT SHE WAS IN A REZONING PROCESS WHERE SHE WAS ORIGINALLY A R SIX AND SHE'LL SPEAK MORE ON BEHALF OF THAT.

WHEN SHE DOES COME UP TO SPEAK AND SHE GOT REZONED INTO A C TWO, THEN THERE WAS AN ISSUE WHERE SHE WAS REZONED TO A C ONE AND, UM, I SPOKE WITH HER AND HER INTENTIONS WERE TO REPAIR.

HOWEVER, SHE STATED TO ME THAT SHE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD UNTIL SHE HAD THE PROPER PERMITTING.

SHE HAS MADE EVERY EFFORT FROM THAT POINT ON, FROM MY DISCUSSION AND MY INVESTIGATION TO OBTAIN THE PERMITS THAT SHE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE THE REPAIRS.

AND WAS THE FIRE OR CHARRED AREA A PRIOR CONDITION OR A NEW CONDITION WHEN, FROM MY INVESTIGATION TAKING OVER THE, THE PROPERTY AT, IN AUGUST OF 2024, I DISCOVERED THAT THE FIRE TOOK PLACE ON NOVEMBER.

IN NOVEMBER OF 2017? YES MA'AM.

UH, THIS IS FRED ANDES ON JPEG 26.

THE, THE PICTURE THAT YOU SHOW HERE, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THAT PICTURE.

ACTUALLY, TWO THINGS REALLY, AND I'LL WAIT UNTIL THEY POP UP.

ALRIGHT.

IF YOU GO TO THE RIGHT, RIGHT WHERE THAT LITTLE AC ACCESS DOOR IS TO THE UNDERNEATH P BEAM? YES.

WHERE IT APPEARS.

YES SIR.

WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT A REPAIR THAT THEY PULLED OUT AND JUST LEFT THERE OR IS THAT ACTUALLY A SEWER PIPE? THAT IT WAS JUST A PIECE OF ITEM THAT WAS JUST LIKE, OH, IT WAS PROBABLY SOMETHING THEY, YEAH, IT'S JUST A PIECE OF ITEM THERE.

IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO THE STRUCTURE AT ALL TO THE RIGHT FURTHER OVER WHERE THAT OVERHANG IS WAY OUT THERE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE AN ADDITION.

YES, SIR.

IS THAT THAT BURNED

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AREA? YES, SIR.

THAT IS THE LEFT ELEVATION ON THAT FAR RIGHT OF THE PHOTO THAT IS THE LEFT ELEVATION, IS THAT THE METER STACK RIGHT THERE ABOVE IT? THE FOR ELECTRIC THERE WAS OR IS THAT A PIPE? NO, THERE IS NO PIPE OR ANYTHING.

THAT'S JUST A PORTION OF THE, UM, THE RIGHT, THE REAR ELEVATION.

THERE IS NO, NO PIPE THERE.

IF YOU LOOK ON THAT LITTLE SHED GOING UP THAT LOOKS LIKE, OR A METER, IT'S A VENT PIPE.

IT MIGHT BE WHERE THE HOT WATER HEATER IS AREA LOOKS LIKE A VENT PIPE.

IT LOOKS LIKE A VENT PIPE NOW.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WASN'T THE METER PULLING.

YEAH, NO, THERE WAS NO METER.

IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THERE IS NO ELECTRICAL SERVICE.

THAT NOW WHEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR REPAIR YES, SIR.

IT'S FOR THE STRUCTURE.

NOT THIS PARKING LOT? NO, JUST FOR THE, FOR THE STRUCTURE AND BASED OFF OF THE WILLINGNESS OF THE INDIVIDUAL TO GO THROUGH THE LINKS, THEY'RE GOING YES, SIR.

DID THEY GIVE YOU A TIMELINE WHEN THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD HAVE ALL THIS DONE? SHE PROVIDED A SCOPE OF WORK.

RIGHT.

UH, SHE DOES HAVE HER CONTRACTOR HERE WHO PROBABLY CAN SPEAK OF THE, OF THE TIMELINE OF HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE.

UM, BUT SHE, BECAUSE THOSE, THOSE PERMITS WERE OBTAINED IN FEBRUARY, UH, SHE WANTED TO WAIT TILL THE, THIS HEARING IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO SHE ACTUALLY HAD A MORE FIGHT GETTING THE ZONING AND ALL THAT, SO IT REALLY WASN'T GONNA BE A TIMELINE.

ANYWAY, SHE, SHE CAN SPEAK ON THAT.

YES, SIR.

BUT THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME.

AND, UM, BASED OFF THE CONVERSATION WHEN YOU TOOK OVER AND THE RESEARCH YOU'VE DONE YES SIR.

DID YOU SEE BEFORE PICTURES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THE BEFORE PICTURES THAT I DID SEE FROM THE PREVIOUS OFFICER AND I CAN'T SPEAK ON THEM, WERE JUST OF THE INTERIOR.

UH, ONCE I TOOK OVER THE PHO UH, THE CASE, I MADE SURE I GOT THE CORRECT PHOTOS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN AND ABLE TO EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHY I'M RECOMMENDING REPAIR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO THE CODE OFFICER? THANK YOU.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

MARY HELEN BECERRA CRUZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD.

STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE, MA'AM.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MARY HELEN.

BE CRUZ.

UH, MY ADDRESS IS 7 4 3 TEXAS AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 1.

AND IN YOUR TESTIMONY, PLEASE, I AM ONE OF THE DAUGHTERS TO THE SET PROPERTY.

UM, MY PARENTS PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY BACK IN APRIL OF 1985.

IF I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BRIEF HISTORY, UM, PURCHASED A PARENT THE PROPERTY IN, UH, APRIL OF 1985.

IT WAS ZONED AS, UH, RESIDENTIAL AT THAT TIME.

PARENTS, UH, WENT THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS HERE WITH CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, TO REZONE THIS AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO A C3.

IT WAS APPROVED, PARENTS HAD A USED CAR BUSINESS, RAN IT AS SUCH.

UM, IT WAS COMMERCIAL FOR 38 YEARS UP UNTIL AUGUST OF 2023.

CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DID A BIG REZONING OF THE AREA AND, UM, CHANGED IT TO RESIDENTIAL.

UM, I, WE WEREN'T ALL AWARE.

UH, NOTICE ACCORDING TO CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, WAS SENT TO MY MOTHER.

MY MOTHER WAS HAVING ISSUES WITH, AND NOT JUST MY MOTHER, OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, OTHER NEIGHBORS WERE HAVING ISSUE WITH THE POST POSTAL SERVICE.

AND SO WE DIDN'T ALL GET NOTIFIED, UM, THAT THIS WAS GONNA GET REZONED HAD WE NOTIFIED, BEEN ALL PROPERLY NOTIFIED.

AND I MEAN, WE AS MYSELF, MY SISTERS, UM, UH, WE WOULD'VE COME FORWARD AT THE REZONING.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO SINCE 2021.

UH, I SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR, UM, TO DO THE REPAIRS AS YOU SEE, THE PROPERTY DID, UH, SUSTAINED, UH, FIRE DAMAGE NOVEMBER OF 2017.

UM, I HIRED A INDIVIDUAL TO DO THE FOUNDATION WORK.

FOUNDATION WORK WAS DONE JULY OF 2019.

WE'VE HAD SOME COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

UM, FOR THE YEAR OF 2020, I HIRED A CONTRACTOR, AN ENGINEER, SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS PROPERTY, PROPERTY, UH, REPAIRED.

UM, THE CONTRACTOR IS PRESENT.

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UH, THE ENGINEER ALSO HAS PROVIDED A LETTER OF PARTIAL DEMOLITION SO THAT WE CAN REPAIR, REPAIR ALL THE FIRE DAMAGED AREA, UM, TO COMPLY WITH CODE OFFICERS AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

WE HAVE, AND BY WE, I MEAN ME, THE FAMILY, UM, WE HAVE ALSO, UM, HAD TO HAVE REZONED THE PROPERTY, REPL THE PROPERTY, UM, MORE OR LESS AROUND THE SAME TIMEFRAME.

SO WE AND MYSELF AND THE ENGINEER, WE HAVE BEEN NONSTOP WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

UM, DOING ANY KIND OF MODIFICATIONS, ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, WHATEVER THE CITY IS ASKING OF US.

WE HAVE COMPLIED AND WE'RE BACK AND FORTH WITH PLANS.

I HAVE, UH, PAID FOR ANY EXPEDITED, UM, PROCESSES TO, TO JUST GET THE BALL ROLLING AND GET IT MOVING FASTER.

BECAUSE WHEN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CAME IN, IN AUGUST OF 2023, HERE WE ARE SINCE 2021, SUBMITTING ALL THESE DOCUMENTS AND PLANS AS COMMERCIAL, WE WERE AT A STANDSTILL.

OUR HANDS WERE TIED.

WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE NOW THE PROPERTY IS REZONED AS RESIDENTIAL AND WE COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD AS COMMERCIAL.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ANYMORE.

I REACHED OUT TO DISTRICT FIVE AND I ASKED, UM, IS THERE SOME KIND OF WAY THEY CAN HELP? I'M SORRY, WE HAD A MEETING HERE JULY 19TH, 2025 WITH UPPER MANAGEMENT FROM EACH DEPARTMENT TO TRY AND GET THIS MATTER MOVING ALONG.

IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS.

IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING, IT'S STRESSFUL.

AT THAT TIME, THEY GAVE US A 90 DAY EXTENSION TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH PULLING PERMITS AND STARTING THE REPAIRS.

I HAVE COME MULTIPLE TIMES HERE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

EVERY TIME I COME HERE, I TAKE OFF TIME FROM WORK.

I AM HERE ANYWHERE FROM AN HOUR TO FOUR HOURS GETTING BOUNCED AROUND TO THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

THE LAST PLACE I WIND UP IN IS IN CONSULTATION.

EVERY TIME I COME, I MAKE THEM AWARE.

I HAVE THESE DEADLINES, I HAVE COURT ENFORCEMENT ON MY BACK.

I NEED TO COMPLY.

AND THE ANSWER IS, I CANNOT PULL PERMITS UNTIL ALL THESE PENDING MATTERS, WHICH THERE'S 17 PAGES HERE, ARE ALL COMPLETED, ACCEPTED, AND APPROVED.

SO EVERY TIME THAT WE GET THIS MATTER GOING ALONG, WE HAVE TO MAKE ADDITIONS, MODIFICATIONS.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A PROCESS AND I KNOW IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE WHILE.

NEVER IN MY WILDEST DREAMS DID I EVER IMAGINE THAT IT WAS GONNA TAKE FIVE YEARS, FOUR YEARS.

THE CONTRACTOR YEARS BACK WHEN I HIRED HIM, HE WAS READY TO GO.

WE WERE READY TO WITH, TO ORDER THE DUMPSTER SO WE CAN START THIS PROCESS.

WE WERE, WE WERE TOLD, NO, YOU CANNOT.

UNTIL ALL THE PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, REVIEWED AND APPROVED.

SO HERE I AM.

YES, THIS IS MY TIME, MY SECOND TIME BEFORE YOU AND I DO APOLOGIZE.

I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE IT IS A PROCESS AND I HAVE PAID FOR EXPEDITED THINGS.

THERE'S TESTING.

I HAVE DONE ASBESTOS TESTING, FIRE FLOW TESTING, FIRE HYDRANT TESTING.

THE STORM MANAGEMENT.

UM, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT WAS, I WAS TOLD, WAS GONNA TAKE THE LONGEST ANYWHERE FROM SIX MONTHS TO TO EIGHT MONTHS.

AND SO OF COURSE WE FINALLY GOT THROUGH THAT.

UM, I WAS TOLD WHEN IT WAS TIME

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FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION BY MS. AMIA PARSONS IN THAT DEPARTMENT DOWN THE HALL, THAT OUR PROPERTY IS THREE LOTS.

PROPERTY LINES COULD NOT CROSS EACH OTHER.

IF IT WAS COMMERCIAL, WE HAD THE OPTION OF EITHER 'CAUSE.

I TOLD HER, OKAY, WHAT DO WE DO? CAN I MOVE FORWARD AT ALL? SHE SAID, NO.

I ASKED, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? SHE SAYS, EITHER YOU REPL OR YOU REZONE BACK TO, UM, UH, RESIDENTIAL.

THIS WAS BEFORE CITY DID ALL THE RES REZONING SPOKE TO THE FAMILY.

WE DECIDED WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD.

AND WE STARTED THE RELOTTING PROCESS.

AND SO OF COURSE I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH A LOT OF STUFF RE PLOTTING, REZONING.

WE STILL HAD PENDING STORM, STORM FLOW, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, UM, UH, WHICH TOOK A LITTLE WHILE.

UM, SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS.

IT'S BEEN A SLOW PROCESS.

I'M NOT MAKING ANY EXCUSES.

I'M READY TO GO.

FINALLY, IN FEBRUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY WHEN I MET WITH OFFICER BLEDSO FOR AN ENTRY OF OUR PROPERTY, I GAVE THEM THIS LIST.

I I, I PROVIDED THREE PAGES OUT OF THIS LIST.

I WENT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THESE ITEMS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE WERE FIVE ITEMS THAT SAID THEY WERE PENDING.

THREE OF THESE ITEMS WERE MATTERS.

THAT ONE, I SPOKE TO MS. KATHLEEN PRESLER A YEAR AGO, AND I THOUGHT SHE HAD APPROVED IT AND SHE HAD NOT.

SO THAT'S THE MATTER THAT COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF EASILY.

I TOOK CARE OF IT.

THE SECOND ITEM WAS THE TREE PORTION.

THAT TREE PORTION.

UM, THEY WENT OUT AND DID A SURVEY THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN JANUARY, I'M SORRY, JULY OF, I'M NOT SURE THAT I DON'T RECALL THE YEAR IF IT WAS 2023 OR 2024.

UM, AND SO I REACHED OUT TO MR. ESPINOZA.

I DID BRING IT TO HIS ATTENTION THAT IT WAS APPROVED.

THE ONLY MATTER WAS, UH, THERE WAS AN ERROR ON A STREET NAME.

I'D REACHED OUT TO THESE TREE SURVEY COMPANY NOTIFYING THEM, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS TINY LITTLE MATTER.

CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE CARE OF IT? YES, IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF.

I LET MR. ESPINO KNOW THE OTHER PORTION.

UM, WELL, I TOOK TAKE CARE OF THOSE THREE MATTERS.

UM, THE, THE OTHER TWO THAT WERE PENDING, I LET OFFICER BLEDSO KNOW THAT, UH, THE ENGINEER WAS IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING CARE OF THOSE MATTERS AND THAT, UM, IT SHOULD BE APPROVED, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER LONG IT TOOK IT, WHICH WAS NOT VERY LONG.

IT JUST HAPPENED WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS OR WITHIN A A WEEK'S TIMEFRAME.

UM, AND, AND THEN THE MATTERS GOT APPROVED.

SO AS SOON AS EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED, SAID AND DONE, I IMMEDIATELY STARTED PAYING FOR THE INVOICES ON THE PERMITS.

MARCH 13, I PAID FOR A SET OF PERMITS.

MARCH 20TH, I PAID FOR ANOTHER SET OF, OF, I'M SORRY, FEBRUARY.

FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025, FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025.

AND FEBRUARY 26TH, 2025.

I HAVE THE PERMITS.

UM, ALL I NEED NOW IS JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME SO OUR CONTRACTOR CAN START THE WORK.

UM, HE IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON ANOTHER PROJECT AND SO OF COURSE HE CAN'T JUST SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR ME OR MY PROPERTY WHILE ALL THIS IS GOING ON, AND OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TAKEN FIVE YEARS TO GET TO THIS POINT.

AND SO I'M ASKING YOU BOARD MEMBERS TO JUST GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, MA'AM.

UH, WE HAVE THE CONTRACTOR'S REPORT, WE HAVE THE SCOPE OF WORK, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, FINANCIAL INFORMATION AT THE PRESENT TIME.

UH, I APOLOGIZE THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THE THINGS I'VE, I'VE EXPERIENCED SOME OF THAT.

SO I KNOW YOUR FRUSTRATION ITSELF AS FAR AS THE REZONING IS CONCERNED.

RIGHT NOW, YOUR REZONING IS GOOD, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

YES SIR.

OKAY.

UM, I AM NOW REZONED TO A C ONE.

VERY GOOD.

YES.

AND WHAT'S THE INTENT IN TERMS OF

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THE USE OF THE PROPERTY WHEN YOU GET THROUGH, WE WILL HAVE THREE SUITES.

ONE SUITE, TWO OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE BLANK SPACES, BLANK OR WHAT DO YOU CALL 'EM? WHITE BOXES.

ONE IS GOING TO BE USED BY, UH, ONE OF MY SISTERS WHO WAS A NOTARY AND WOULD LIKE TO, SHE'S GOING TO RETIRE WITH THE COUNTY, AND SO SHE IS GOING TO MAKE A LITTLE OFFICE.

THE SECOND ONE, MY SISTER IS INTO CRAFTS.

SHE WANTS TO SELL LITTLE CRAFTS.

THE THIRD ONE, UH, MY INTENTION IS TO UTILIZE IT AS LIKE A LITTLE, UH, SNACK SHACK.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE, WE BASICALLY WE'RE FITTING WITHIN THE, THE CODE? YES, SIR.

IN TERMS OF RISK OF, OF HOW IT'S CODE IS ONLY SIR PRESENT TIME.

UH, OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UH, YEAH, UH, THIS IS WHAT IT IS.

THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT IS NOT, WASN'T IN HERE WHEN WE GOT IT.

AND I WAS GONNA ASK YOU AND THEY POPPED IT UP ON THE SCREEN.

YES, SIR.

SO THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVEN'T FOUND IS WHEN YOU WERE TALKING IN A BROADER PICTURE, ONCE THIS CONSTRUCTION STARTED, DID ANYBODY EVER TELL YOU HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE? AND DID YOU EVER ASK ABOUT A TIMELINE JUST SO THAT PEOPLE, AS FAR AS WITH THE CITY? UH, NO, NO, NO.

THE CON THE CONTRACTOR IS HERE.

YEAH, I KNOW, BUT OKAY.

I DIDN'T, I WANNA KNOW IF THEY AND, AND IF YOU GUYS EVER TALKED TO, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

CORRECT.

DID YOU EVER, AT ANY TIME WHEN SAY WAIT, WHEN WE GET STARTED WITH A TIME MEMBER MENTIONED WITH THE CONTRACTOR? YES.

OKAY.

WITH THE CITY HERE, PAPERWORK WISE AND EVERYTHING, I'M TALKING ABOUT TIME.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND HE'LL GET INTO THAT TOO.

OKAY.

WEATHER PERMITTING.

YES.

YEAH.

SO THE PART THAT'S GONNA BE TORN DOWN, DID YOU GET A PERMIT FOR THAT TOO? IS THAT ONE OF THE PERMITS? I, THE, BUT IT SAYS COMMERCIAL PERMITS WERE PULLED.

YES.

THE, THE ENGINEER, I, SHE SAID IT WAS ALL IN THERE, ALL INCLUDED.

I NEED TO DIG A LITTLE FURTHER INTO, INTO THAT AND I'LL TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR MORE BECAUSE YOU SAID THERE WAS A PART THAT THEY WERE GONNA TEAR DOWN PARTIAL DEMOLITION.

YES, SIR.

AND I'LL GET INTO THAT.

ALRIGHT.

AND SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS WE'RE GONNA WORK IN PHASES.

NUMBER ONE, OUR PRIORITY IS YES, TAKE CARE OF WHAT CODE OFFICER CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ASKING OF US.

SO THE SECTION THAT INTERNALLY, IT'S THREE SECTIONS.

AND SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THAT PARTIAL DEMOLITION IS GOING TO BE TOWARDS THE BACK AND TOWARDS THE SIDE.

THAT KIND OF STICKS OUT IF YOU WOULD.

I KNOW IT HAS AN ODD SHAPE TO IT.

AND SO, UM, IN THAT SECTION, IN THE TWO BACK SECTIONS, THE FLOOR WAS A SUBFLOOR AT THE TIME OF THE FOUNDATION, I ASKED THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL GUY TO RAISE THAT FLOORING SO THAT IT CAN BE PARALLEL TO THE REST OF THE HOUSE OR THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE.

AND SO HE DID.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU KIND OF SEE THAT SECOND SECTION AND THIRD SECTION SHORTER BECAUSE SINCE THE INTERIOR WAS RAISED, HE HAD TO TEAR OFF TEAR PRETTY MUCH LIKE ALMOST HALF OF THAT WALL.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WE WILL TAKE CARE OF ALSO THE, THE CEILING FROM CEILING ON OUT THAT YOU LITERALLY WILL BE SEEING THE SKY AND THE ROOF.

I'M SORRY.

THE ROOF WILL BE ALL ONE LEVEL.

AND THEN FROM THERE, AFTER THAT IS DONE, WE WILL TAKE CARE OF, IT'S GONNA ALL GET DE GUTTED.

WE WILL TAKE CARE OF SHOE, ROCK, SIDING, WINDOWS, DOORS, IT'S GONNA BE RENOVATED.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

APPRECIATE IT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO, WE DO NOT.

OKAY.

I APOLOGIZE.

UH, MICHAEL, I APOLOGIZE.

I'M GOING TO BUTCHER YOUR NAME.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD.

UH, AND GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR US.

, UH, CORRECTLY PRONOUNCED I HOPE, .

AND ALSO YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

MICHAEL.

UH, MICHAEL DALES DDAY.

3 5 4 OVER HILL DRIVE.

7 8 2 2 8.

SAN ANTONIO.

IT'S JUST LIKE, IT'S SPELLED I THOUGHT .

I, FIRST OF ALL, I COULDN'T READ IT, BUT NUMBER ONE, IT'S JUST LIKE YOU'VE SAID.

MR. CHAIR, I'M SORRY, THIS IS LEGAL.

GO AHEAD.

CAN WE GET THE PRONUNCIATION AND SPELLING OF THAT LAST NAME AGAIN? 'CAUSE I COULDN'T GET IT EITHER.

D-E-O-S-D-A-D-E.

DESDE.

MY MOM'S GONNA BE VERY UPSET.

SHE RETIRED FROM THE CITY AFTER 30 YEARS.

THEN APOLOGIZE TO YOUR MOM FOR ME AND GO AHEAD WITH YOUR TESTIMONY.

PLEASE, SIR.

UH, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

UH, WE WERE ORIG, UH, I, I GUESS A BACKGROUND.

WE WERE ORIGINALLY CONTRACTED TO GET THE STRUCTURE, UH, TO WHERE CODE WOULD SAY IT'S, IT'S, UH, SECURE

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AND, UH, AND TO ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES FROM THE FIRE DAMAGE.

UH, AS SHE SAID, UH, AS MARY, UH, INDICATED, IT WAS, UH, THE ORIGINAL GOAL WAS TO, THAT WAS PHASE ONE.

THEN PHASE TWO SHE WOULD DO FI PLAN TO FINISH OUT.

SO THAT'S NOT PART OF THE SCOPE.

THE, THE SCOPES, UH, WAS FOCUSED ON REPAIRING THE, THE FIRE DAMAGE.

SHE WANTED TO RE RES SLOPE THE ROOF SO THAT IT WAS, IT WAS ALL CONTINUOUS.

I MEAN, YOU SAW THE SPLIT LEVEL AND, UH, AND MAKE IT SAFE AND AND COM AND UP TO CODE.

SO THAT'S WHAT OUR SCOPE IS.

AND NOW WE KNEW THAT MIGHT CHANGE A LITTLE BIT BASED ON THE, ON THE ENGINEER'S REPORT, BUT AGAIN, WE WERE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE, THE UNDERSTANDING BEING THAT WE WOULD WORK IN, IN, IN, UH, WE WOULD REFER TO THE, TO THE ENGINEER'S REPORT AND OF COURSE IN CONSULTATION WITH, UH, CODE COMPLIANCE.

AND WE FIGURED IT WOULD TAKE, UH, PROBABLY THREE TO FOUR MONTHS MAX.

'CAUSE SHE ALSO THOUGHT, WELL, WE MAY WANNA CHANGE SOME WHERE SOME OF THE WINDOWS ARE AND SO FORTH.

AND THE WIN THERE, WINDOWS WERE GONNA BE REPLACED AS WELL.

NEW DOORS, NEW WIN, ANYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.

AND THEN ONCE SHE HAD AN EMPTY SHELL, AT THAT POINT, SHE WOULD LOOK AT HOW THEY WANT TO CREATE THE THREE SUITES.

SO, AND I BELIEVE OUR ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS SIGNED BACK IN JANUARY OF 2020.

SO I, I REALLY FEEL FOR HER, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL THE, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, AND CONTRACTOR FORMS. I, I BELONG TO THE, UH, I THINK THE, THE BEST, UH, ESTIMATE IS THAT MATERIAL COSTS HAVE INCREASED BY ALMOST 37% SINCE WE STARTED THIS.

AND SO, UH, I HAVE NOTHING BUT EMPATHY FOR HER BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU CAN'T FIGHT CITY HALL, RIGHT? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY SHE WANTS TO DO EVERYTHING IN COMPLIANCE.

IT'S JUST BEEN SORT OF A, SHE SEEMS TO BE CAUGHT IN LIVING.

I SAID, WHO DID YOU OFFEND ? BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, I CAN, I CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT SHE'S DONE EVERYTHING.

SHE'S ACTED IN GOOD FAITH.

I MEAN, WHEN I, I MEAN, WHEN I HEARD THE FIRST CASE AND I, I LIKE MARY, YOU, YOU THIS, YOU ARE, YOU DON'T BELONG IN THAT CATEGORY AT ALL.

YOU KNOW? SO, UH, I, I KNOW, I KNOW THAT HER AND HER MOM AND HER SISTERS HAVE BEEN, UH, HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT, UH, TRY TO COMPLY.

SO, UH, UH, THEY'VE BECOME FRIENDS.

IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS.

WE'VE BECOME FRIENDLY.

AND UH, SO IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY FOR HER.

AND HOPEFULLY, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA DO OUR PART TO MAKE SURE THAT HER PROPERTY IS RESTORED TO THE PRE-FIRE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND LEAVE IT BETTER THAN WE FOUND IT.

SO, QUESTIONS.

THIS IS FRED ANDES AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR TO A CONTRACTOR.

AND THIS, I UNDERSTAND YOUR , UH, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

YOU SAID YOU WERE DOING IT IN PHASES, RIGHT? YOU'RE BREAKING WELL, NO, HER OVERALL RESTORATION WAS IN PHASES, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING, FIRST PHASE WAS TO ADDRESS THE, THE CODE.

THE CODE, AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN DO WHATEVER A RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO IN THE CODE MM-HMM .

THIS IS WHAT WOULD, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT SURE DONE IN THE PHASE PIECE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM .

BUT YOU'RE TALKING NOW 30 DAYS TO NO, NO, UH, THREE TO JUST TO BRING IT UP TO CODE.

OH.

UH, AS FAR AS A START DATE? YEAH.

UH, I'M CURRENTLY START TO FINISH, RIGHT? NO, WHEN SHE CONTACTED ME IN FEBRUARY, I SAID, MARY, WE JUST STARTED, I'M DOING A 48 BUILDING PROJECT RIGHT, RIGHT NOW.

SO I SAID I NEED, AT LEAST BACK THEN, I TOLD HER IT WAS PROBABLY GONNA BE 45 TO 60 DAYS.

SO I'M THINKING APRIL 1ST WILL PROBABLY BE WHEN I CAN GET MY, YOU KNOW, PART OF MY CREW OVER THERE TO START DOING THAT.

SO I WAS THAT 45 DAYS, MORE OR LESS.

AND THAT'S FROM APRIL.

THAT'S TO START, THAT'S TO APRIL 1ST.

THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THIS TIME HERE.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

I'M SAYING IN ORDER FOR US TO GET OVER THERE, TO START THE PROJECT WOULD BE ABOUT APRIL ONE, BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

SO 60 DAYS, WHAT WAS THAT? GIVE OR TAKE? UM, BECAUSE THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TOO.

SEE, SO YOU'VE GOTTA COUNT FOR THAT TIME AS WELL.

I'M SORRY, MAYBE I'M, AM I WRONG? LET'S SEE.

MARCH, APRIL, I'M, I'M SORRY.

I MEAN 45 DAYS.

SO END OF END OF APRIL, RIGHT FROM THE START TIME, MARCH, APRIL IS WHAT I'M SAYING, FROM YOUR START TIME, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 45 DAY COMPLETION.

NO, NO, NO.

45 DAYS TO, TO START, TO GET, TO START.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YES.

YOU'RE SAYING 45 DAYS FROM HERE OVER, WHAT'S THIS HERE THAT WE'RE AT TO THE TIME FRAME'S GOTTA BE ADDED IN THERE AS WELL.

SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? OKAY.

I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT A START DATE.

RIGHT? START, START DATE, END OF APRIL, THREE TO FOUR MONTHS COMPLETION.

WELL, FROM, FROM THE START DATE, LET, LET ME ASK 'CAUSE I'M TRYING TO, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TIMELINE MM-HMM .

RIGHT COUNSEL, WE HAVE TO ALSO, 'CAUSE WE JUST CAN'T MAKE AN ORDER TO START AT A SPECIFIC DATE.

IT GOES FROM THE TIME WE SIGN THAT ORDER OVER.

CORRECT.

IT DOES, UH, THIS BOARD DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, I'M JUST THROWING SOMETHING OUT THERE.

LET'S SAY THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO ABOVE WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO, UM, AND THEN ONCE THE DEADLINE HITS, IT IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT GOES OUT THERE AND DOES AN INSPECTION.

IF THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE IT'S, UH, THE WORK IS PROGRESSING AND IT IT'S AN ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION SITE INSTEAD OF

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A-A-A-A-A DP, THEN IT'S, IT'S NO LONGER AN ISSUE.

SO, UM, TO, TO BE FAIR AND TO BE UPFRONT AND HONEST, DOES THE, DO THE REPAIRS HAVE TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE, LET'S SAY IF YOU GIVE THEM 60 DAYS, DOES IT HAVE TO BE COMPLETED ON THE 60TH DAY? NOT NECESSARILY.

BUT IF THE PROPERTY IS IN COMPLIANCE AND IS BEING REPAIRED, UM, AND LOOKS LIKE A CONSTRUCTION SITE, THEN UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CONTINUES TO WORK WITH THEM.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

'CAUSE WHEN WE TAKE THE DATE, IT'S NOT THE DATE THEY'RE PICKING, IT'S THE DATE, THE ACTUAL ORDER WITHIN THE 30 DAYS.

CORRECT.

BUT, UH, IF, LET'S AGAIN, IF THIS BOARD THINKS IT WILL TAKE THREE, I'M JUST THROWING SOMETHING OUT THERE.

LET'S SAY THE BOARD THINKS IT'S GONNA TAKE THREE MONTHS TO REPAIR, THEN, UH, BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THE BOARD CAN GIVE FOUR MONTHS.

IF THE BOARD BELIEVES IT TAKES FOUR MONTHS TO REPAIR, THEN BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THE BOARD CAN GIVE FIVE MONTHS.

SO IF, IF THAT, THAT'S, THAT IS WHAT I, I'M, I'M SUGGESTING I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IF THIS BOARD DOES DECIDE TO GIVE A, A REPAIR ORDER, I'M, I'M SURE IT CAN BE, UM, WORKED OUT AND FOR THE BOARD, IT'S, I'M ADDING ALL OF THAT AS A CONTRACTOR.

I HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

IF I'M DOING THAT AND I SAY I'M GONNA START THE YEAR, I STILL GOT THE, SO I'M GONNA ADD THAT TIME IN THERE, BUT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU THAT TIME AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

YEAH, I KNOW YOU WOULD, BUT I WOULD GIVE HIM THAT TIME FOR GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

AND, AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A LOT FOR THE TIME WE HAVE HERE TOO.

SURE, SURE.

SO, AND I'M SORRY, WHEN I SAID APRIL 1ST, I WAS THINKING OF WHEN WE FIRST TALKED INTO MID-FEBRUARY.

RIGHT? SO IT'S ACTUALLY THE END OF, END OF APRIL.

RIGHT.

SO NOW THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO ASK.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, WE HAVE TO ADD THAT TOO, BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A START DATE.

WE HAVE TO LOOK BEFORE THAT AS WELL.

SURE, I UNDERSTAND.

UM, SO ALL OF THE OTHER STUFF THAT WE LOOKED IN HERE MM-HMM .

AND THE FINANCIAL, IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE'VE BEEN NORMALLY WHAT WE COME IN WITH INSTEAD OF ALL THE HEADACHES YOU'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH.

SO BASED OFF OF THAT MM-HMM .

JUST TO BRING IT UP IS ABOUT 45 PLUS DAYS.

GIVE ALL THIS OTHER STUFF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

SO WOULD YOU, I CAN'T PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH AND I CAN'T ASK YOU A DIRECT QUESTION IN THAT FACT BECAUSE OF THE LEGALITY STUFF.

ALRIGHT, I'LL, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION AND GIVE IT WHATEVER.

YES, I CAN.

I AND I AND I AND THE CITY WILL TAKE CARE OF THE REST OF IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'LL CUT THAT AND THEN WHEN I MAKE THE MOTION, THEN IT WILL BE MORE LEGAL THEN IF I ASK.

AND THE MOTION IS, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR MOTION.

WELL, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE'S QUESTIONS FIRST? OKAY.

WE DO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.

UH, IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE'S QUESTIONS OR YOU WANNA MAKE THE MOTION, UH, YOU MAY GO FOR IT.

I'LL SECOND.

BUT WHAT, WHAT YOU DO, YOU ARE CORRECT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE CONTRACTOR? ? NO.

MICHAEL, YOU ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS FOR US.

, APPRECIATE MR. ANDES, PLEASE MAKE YOUR MOTION.

OKAY.

WHAT PROPERTY WAS THIS ONE? THANK YOU.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

I MOTION I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1, 2, 3, I, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY, I'M READING THE THING OUT.

UH, AT 9 2 3 NORTHWEST 24TH STREET IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 6 1 5 6, WHICH IS NOT, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, WHICH IS FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN, UH, VIOLATION OF SECTION SIX, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 5 6 DASH 1 56.

SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18.

AND I ORDER REPAIR WITHIN 90 DAYS.

AND I DUNNO IF THE PROPERTY'S SECURED OR NOT.

NO.

ALL RIGHT.

I, YEAH.

UM, I'LL END IT WITH, THERE'S A FRIENDLY DU THEN IT CAN BE DONE.

SECOND MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 2 3 NORTHWEST 24TH STREET IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS FEASIBLY BEING REPAIRED AT THIS TIME, BUT IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 56, SUB CODES 1 12 5 7 8 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, THAT THE PROPERTY IS TO BE REPAIRED IN 90 DAYS.

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DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

AND HAVE A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

NAY.

AND THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

IT'S CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

A 90 DAY REPAIR ORDER.

OUR NEXT STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE 5 3 3 9 EL PASO STREET.

GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD.

AFTERNOON FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS JAIME HASSEL, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 5 3 3 9 EL PASO STREET WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS PROPERTY IS BEING HEARD BEFORE THIS BOARD.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 8 5 9 7, NO BLOCK LOT NUMBER 2 5 4, LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.

THE OWNER ON RECORD IS CASOS JOSE PABLO JR.

AND LU T ORTEGA WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 5 3 3 9 EL PASO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 7.

ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED.

UH, THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUAL WAS PRESENT AT THE MEETING.

UH, HIS NAME WAS MR. RAMIREZ LOPEZ.

UH, HE DID HAVE AN APPOINTMENT THAT HE HAD TO GET TO, SO HE DID HAVE TO LEAVE.

UH, HE DID WANNA REQUEST AN EXTENSION.

UH, HOWEVER, AT THIS TIME HE HAS NOT PROVIDED A SCOPE OF WORK OR A, UM, FINANCIAL PROOF OR AN ENGINEER'S LETTER.

DOES THE BOARD WISH TO PROCEED? COUNSEL, I NEED YOUR GUIDANCE.

UH, KEVIN, THE BOARD PROCEED EVEN THOUGH HE WAS HERE AT ONE TIME.

IF, IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO, UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S SOLELY UP TO THE BOARD, WE WILL PROCEED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I SO I I'M SORRY, SAY IT AGAIN.

RESET.

WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR A RESET.

THAT WAY HE GETS AN OPPORTUNITY IF HE WAS HERE ONCE, HE SHOULD GET IT.

IT IS THIS BOARD'S, BOARD'S DECISION AND THE MOTION, WHICH IS WHY THEY ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO IF YOU, YOU KNOW, I I DID SEE THAT HE SIGNED IN.

SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S SOLELY UP TO THE BOARD ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

AND THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M GETTING FROM THE REST OF THE BOARD.

UH, THEY WANT TO RESET THE CASE WITHOUT HEARING THE CASE.

IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? YES SIR.

UH, THEN THE MOTION OF THE FLOOR IS THE PROPERTY LOCATED UH, AT 5 3 3 9 EL PASO STREET WILL BE RESET TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE.

UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I, UH, FRED ANDES, I SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

THIS PROPERTY, UH, IS TO THE MOST ON THE BOARD IS TO RESET THE CASE, UH, TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE, UH, DATE FOR 5 3 3 9 EL PASO STREET.

AND TO THE STAFF, I APOLOGIZE YOU DID NOT MAKE YOUR PRESENT OR GET TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

YES SIR.

UH, THEY WANT A RIGHT TO LET THE OWNER PRESENT THEMSELVES SO WE WILL NOT PROCEED.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

IT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES? JUDY KRUM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE THAT APPLICATIONS ARE NOW OPEN FOR EACH BOARD MEMBER'S POSITION.

APPLICATIONS HAVE OPENED 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT TERM EXPIRATION DATE, WHICH IS MAY 31ST, 2025.

APPLICATIONS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE@SANANTONIO.GOV AND I HAVE EMAILED YOU THE LINK TO THE APPLICATION BOARD.

MEMBERS ARE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE BSB AS WELL AS ANY, ANY OTHER BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS.

THANK YOU.

LEGAL WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR NOT MAKING ME DRAFT THAT OTHER MOTION.

, ANYTHING ELSE NE HAS TO SAY? DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD OR FROM THE STAFF AND STAFF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH US.

I APOLOGIZE THAT WE TOOK THAT LONG, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE STAY HERE TILL TWO O'CLOCK ANYWAY.

SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? THOSE, THOSE ROBUST CONVERSATIONS ARE WHAT IS WHY WE STREAM AND WHAT THEY WANNA SEE.

SO.

YEP.

I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.

SO FOR THE BOARD, YOU DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

WONDERFUL.