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AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
UM, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
MY NAME IS JOHN BUSANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
DANIEL KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WHITSETT, DISTRICT 10, TAYLOR WATSON, DISTRICT TWO.
JANELLE CHASE, MAYOR'S OFFICE.
EDDIE REYES, DISTRICT FOUR
ALRIGHT, STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALRIGHT, PRIOR TO BEGINNING OUR MEETING, UH, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU WOULD.
BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.
YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE SEE YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THEIR REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE OPPOSED.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION IN ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM MR CHAIR OF TWO MINUTES OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED WHEN YOUR TWO MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND MUST YIELD THAT TIME.
WHEN THE SPEAKER GOES TO THE PODIUM, THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH UH, OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
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UM, ARE THERE ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT IS POSTPONED.ITEM UH, TWO LOCATED AT 6 0 8 SOUTH PARK BOULEVARD.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO ON SOUTH PARK BOULEVARD.
UH, YOU CAN GO ABOUT YOUR DAY AND ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER WHILE WE ARE STUCK IN HERE.
UM, ALRIGHT STAFF, IF WE COULD JUST QUICKLY GO OVER THE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEMS ON CONSENT, WE HAVE ITEMS 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, AND 12 COMMISSIONERS.
ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL TO INDIVIDUAL? LOOKING TO MY LEFT, SEEING NONE.
LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
COULD WE READ THE ITEMS ON COMBINED HEARING? NUMBER ONE, THE CONSENT AGENDA INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM AND C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM TO C3 NA CVS WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PARKING AND OR STORAGE LONG TERM AND A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, NOT A MICROPHONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 54 10 PECAN SPRINGS ROAD.
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ZERO OPPOSED RIOT COMMONS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 0 4 GRIFFIN AVENUE.
QUINTANA COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOES NOT OPPOSE.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO RM SIX WITH ALL OVER LAKES TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 5 9 DOLORES AVENUE.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 5 1 8 EAST PARK AVENUE.
ZERO OPPOSED TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD AS ASSOCIATION RESPONDED WITH A NEUTRAL STANCE AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO NCS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR ATHLETIC FIELDS OUTDOOR PERMITTED WITH ALL OF LAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 5 2 8 IRA LEE ROAD.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED ONE IN OPPOSITION.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE SALES WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 2 5 DE CHANTE ROAD.
18 NOTICES WERE SENT ZERO RECEIVING FAVOR.
ONE OPPOSED, UH, NO RESPONSE FROM THE MAVERICK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION.
AND WE DO HAVE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 10, UH, WITH VOICEMAILS.
UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT OUTSIDE OF VOICEMAILS? NO.
VERY WELL IF WE COULD PLAY THOSE VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
UM, I ADDRESS IS 1913 CREEK MOUNTAIN STREET, SAN TEXAS 7 8 2 5 9.
UM, I AM CALLING WITH REGARD TO CASE NUMBER Z AS IN ZEBRA, 2 0 2 5 1 0 7 0 0 0 3 0 S AND IN SAM.
AND I WANNA EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE REZONING.
I LEE, UM, IT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S USE OF OTHERWISE VACANT LAND THAT IS BEING, UH, UTILIZED AS A, AS AN EYESORE FOR DUMPING, UM, FOR, UH, M ESSENTIALLY.
UM, AND IN OTHER TO OTHERWISE USE IT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE SAME P CATHOLIC SCHOOL, UM, WHICH IS A ELEMENTARY MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH, WITH MINIMAL, UM, DISRUPTION TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS IS, IS A HUGE IMPROVEMENT OVER THE EMPTY, UH, EYESORE OF A LOT THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR, UH, MANY YEARS.
UH, I LIVE AT 40 31 OAK HAVEN.
I'M CALLING ABOUT, UM, THE REZONING OF 5 28 IRA LEE.
UM, LAST FOUR DIGITS OF THE CASE NUMBER IS 0 0 3 OH.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT IN THE REZONING FOR THE, UM, REZONING FOR THE, FOR THAT PROPERTY.
UH, MY NAME IS, UH, CHARLES KELSON.
MY ADDRESS IS 3 2 0 3 NORTHRIDGE DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO 7 8 2 0 9.
I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE, UH, CHURCH SPX CHURCH TO BUILD A SPORTS COMPLEX AT 5 2 8 I LEE.
I'M REFERRING TO THE CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2 0 2 5 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 3.
AGAIN, I AM CALLING TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT TO BUILD THIS SPORT COMPLEX.
UM, I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE ST.
PIUS, UH, CATHOLIC CHURCH, UM, SPORTS COMPLEX PROJECT AT 5 2 8 IRA LEE.
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Z 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 0 3 0 S.UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO, TO COMMUNICATE MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
WE, UM, LIVE JUST ACROSS THE STREET, UM, ON OPPOSITE SIDE OF HARRY OCK ON AT 1 1 9 OAK GLEN DRIVE.
UM, WE'VE LIVED IN THE AREA FOR A LONG TIME, UH, AND REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT AND WHAT IT'LL BRING FOR THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
UM, AND OPEN UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOR CHILDREN WHO BOTH ATTEND THE SCHOOL AND PARISH AND, AND THOSE WHO DON'T, AND JUST EVERYONE IN, IN THE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY GENERALLY SPEAKING.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT THING FOR OUR PART OF TOWN AND, UH, I JUST, I HOPE THAT, UM, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE ZONING CHANGE BEING REQUESTED.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 842-0319.
PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO CONTACT ME IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
I LIVE AT 38 39 HARRY WBA ROAD BUILDING FOUR
THE 10TH CATHOLIC CHURCH IS PLANNING ON BUILDING A SPORTS COMPLEX AT 5 28 HOURLY.
I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA AND I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE STATE PLACE PLAN IS TO BUILD AN ATHLETIC COMPLEX THAT WILL BE USED BY MANY PEOPLE INCLUDING KIDS.
UH, BE MAINLY USED DURING THE DAY AND I DON'T SEE HOW IT WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT, UH, ON THE, ON THE VARIOUS COMMUNITY.
SO I'LL BE GLAD TO TALK TO SOMEONE FORWARD ABOUT THIS IF, IF NECESSARY.
AGAIN, DAVID BELL IN SUPPORT OF THE ST P 10TH PROJECT ON 5 28 HOURLY.
I LIVE AT 3 8 3 9 HARRY WBA DRIVE, UM, IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND I AM CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX AT 5 2 8 IRA LEE ROAD.
I'M CALLING TO SAY THAT I HOPE THIS ZONING CHANGE IS, UM, APPROVED BECAUSE IT OFFERS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IN OUR COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE FOR THERE TO BE A PLACE FOR OUR YOUTH TO GO AND, UM, HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ACTIVITIES THAT ARE HEALTHY, OUTSIDE, SAFE AND WELL SUPERVISED BY ADULTS.
HI, MY NAME IS JOHNNA ALDRIDGE AND I LIVE AT 3 0 2 6 URBAN CREST DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ZERO NINE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (254) 855-2723.
AND I'M CALLING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I SUPPORT THE SPORTS COMPLEX ON I RELIEF FOR ST PRICE, THE 10TH, UM, CYO ORGANIZATION AND IT IS ITEM NUMBER Z DASH 2 2 5 0 7 0 0 0 3 0 S.
ONCE AGAIN, UM, I LIVE IN OUR DIS DISTRICT 10 AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS SPORTS COMPLEX.
I LIVE AT 1 0 2 SUMMERTIME DRIVE IN SAN ANTONIO.
ZIP CODE SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE SIX.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (239) 405-0159.
I'M CALLING TO SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE AT 5 2 8 IRA LEE.
THE UH, CASE NUMBER IS Z DASH 2 0 2 5 DASH 0 7 0 0 0 3 0 AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE AN S UH, SO I'M CALLING TO SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE FOR 5 2 8 IRA LEE.
I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z 20 25 1 0 7 TRIPLE 0 3 0.
UM, MY ADDRESS IS 75 0 6 BRIDGEWATER DRIVE.
I WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE ZONING CHANGE ON I LEAGUE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN BUILD A MIDDLE SCHOOL ATHLETIC FIELD.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR KIDS TO HAVE A PLACE TO PLAY AND
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STAY ACTIVE AND IT GIVES THEM A SAFE PLACE, UH, TO BUILD MEMORIES.UM, AND IT'S A FANTASTIC WAY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
UM, I REALLY HOPE YOU ALL SUPPORT THIS CHANGE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU OUT ON THE ATHLETIC FIELD.
THIS IS MARY CLAIRE PFIZER CALLING FROM 2 8 2 7 BENT BOW DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 9.
I'M CALLING TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX AT 5 2 8 IRA LEE.
UM, IT IS CASE NUMBER Z 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 3 0 S.
WESLEY THOMPSON, I LIVE AT 1 5 1 0 6 SPRING WATER CIRCLE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 7.
PIUS THE 10TH, UH, CATHOLIC SCHOOL ON HARRY WBA.
AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO PULL, GIVE MY FULL SUPPORT OF THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
THE PROJECT AND CASE NUMBER IS Z DASH 2025 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 0 3 0.
THERE MIGHT BE AN S AT THE END OF THAT.
AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MO WELL ACTUALLY I'M GONNA LET TAYLOR MAKE THE MOTION, BUT I WOULD, BEFORE WE GET THERE, HA HAVE THEM, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, HAVE KEN BROWN COME UP AND SPEAK TO THIS REAL QUICKLY.
KEN, DID YOU SIGN UP? MR. BROWN? KEN BROWN, 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10, SUITE 1385.
UM, WE HAVE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
THEIR, THEIR BIGGEST ISSUE IS LIGHTING AND SO WE ARE GONNA WORK ON ADDRESSING LIGHTING AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE A NOTE ONTO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GONNA DO.
ALRIGHT, NOW THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, AND 12.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS ON CONSENT.
ALRIGHT, UM, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, THERE IS AN ITEM OF FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 4, 5, 7, 8, 10 12 BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, UH, YOU CAN GET OUT OF HERE, MOVE ON YOUR WAY, AND IT WILL BE AT, UH, CITY COUNCIL.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT THERE WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
AND OTHERWISE, ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT, UH, DOCKET IS FOR CONTINUANCE HEARING TO THE APRIL 1ST, 2025 MEETING STAFF.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 1ST.
IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE TO THE APRIL 1ST HEARING.
I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO ORTIZ THIS TIME.
UH, BUT BEFORE I DO, I'M JUST GONNA ASK THE QUESTION, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, GIVEN THAT THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE APRIL 1ST MEETING FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT DOCKET IS A CONTINUANCE HEARING DOCKET TO THE APRIL 15TH, 2025 MEETING STAFF.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS REQUESTING A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 15TH AND THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
ITEM NUMBER SIX TO THE APRIL 15TH HEARING.
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A SECOND? SECOND.UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE APRIL 15TH MEETING FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ITEMS THREE OR SIX, WE WILL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS AND FOUR WEEKS RESPECTIVELY.
AND AGAIN, GO OUT AND ENJOY THE DAY.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS. UH, STAFF, IF YOU WOULD READ THE FIRST ITEM INTO THE RECORD.
GOOD AFTERNOON, BRONTE FOR OUR ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER ONE IS LOCATED AT 1246 SOUTH GENERAL MCMULLEN GOING FROM C TWO NA TO C TWO.
ALL OVERLAY'S TERM REMAIN THE SAME.
ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
ZERO OPPOSED EL CHARO NA IS IN SUPPORT.
BRADY GARDEN'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM WESTWOOD SQUARE.
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE EXISTING C TWO NA COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THEIR PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
MANY OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ALONG THE GENERAL MCMULLEN CORRIDOR WERE REZONED IN 2023 WITH AN NA, WHICH PROHIBITS ALCOHOL SALES.
THE REQUEST THAT CHANGE TO C TWO WOULD INTRODUCE ALCOHOL SALES WITH ENCLOSED PROXIMITY TO ESTABLISH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND REVERSE THE GOAL FROM THE RECENT REZONING.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
ADDRESS IS 1246 GENERAL MCMILLAN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
UH, YOU WANNA TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT? WHAT'S YEAH, I HAVE A, I HAVE A PROPERTY THAT FROM 15 YEARS BUT AFTER COVID I HAVE AN EMPTY SPOT FOR ALMOST THREE, THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
IT'S HARD TO PUT A TENANT IN THERE, SO I LIKE TO OPEN MY OWN LIQUOR STAFF IN THERE.
I HAVE OTHER THREE LOCATIONS AND THAT LOCATION IN THAT AREA, THERE'S NO LIQUOR STORE SO I CAN LIKE TO PUT A LIQUOR STORE IN THERE.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES.
WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL AND WE HAVE, UM, A PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
IF WE COULD, UH, START WITH THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE FOR 2 8 2.
I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I'M CALLING THAT WE ARE IN OPPOSITION FOR THE PROPOSED BUSINESS, UH, FOR THE SALE OF LIQUOR.
THEY FALL WITHIN THE 300 FEET OF THE CHURCH THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET TEMPLE OF PENTECOSTAL.
THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROPOSED BUSINESS, UH, ESTABLISHING A LIQUOR STORE THERE AND WESTWOOD SQUARE WILL BE SUPPORTING, UM, THE CHURCH.
AND IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, THE SALE OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGES IS PROHIBITED WITHIN 300 FEET OF A CHURCH.
THE DISTANCE IS MEASURED FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPOSED BUSINESS TO THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE CHURCH.
SO WE HOPE YOU TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND OPPOSE THIS PROPOSED BUSINESS TO GET THEIR ALCOHOL ZONING.
UH, MR. GIOVANNI, IF YOU'D STEP BACK, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEONE ELSE COME UP.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, HORTON'S ESPINOZA SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
I LIVE ABOUT TWO MINUTES AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED LIQUOR STORE TO BE OPEN.
THE CRIME ELEMENT IN OUR AREA IS ALREADY TAKING PLACE.
WE HAVE SHOOTINGS, CAR RACING, ET CETERA.
I FEEL IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR THIS ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENT TO BE OPEN IN OUR AREA.
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COMMENT.UH, MR. GIOVANNI, YOU HAVE A BRIEF REBUTTAL IF YOU WANNA TAKE IT? YEAH, WE HAVE, AS, UH, MS. PENA SAID THAT, UH, WE ARE, WE ARE, WE HAVE A SURVEY THAT SHOWS WE ARE FAR ON THE, UH, TABC.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE FAR FROM THE DISTANCE.
ONE THING AND THE SECOND THING, THE REASON IS WE WANNA OPEN BECAUSE WE CAN BE SAFE IN THE PROPERTY WHERE WE OPEN A BUSINESS.
WE CAN'T DO NO CAR LOT, WE CAN'T DO NO OTHER BUSINESS.
SO AT LEAST WE GET SOME KIND OF BUSINESS PERMISSION THAT OPENS FOR US THAT WE CAN USE THE PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS, IS OKAY WITH THAT, YOU KNOW.
UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN STAY UP THERE.
I, I'M PROBABLY GONNA HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT IS TO ME, UH, FOR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH A QUES A QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S REPRESENTATIVE TODAY.
UH, ONE OF THE CALLS OR THE CALL, UH, MADE A POINT THAT THE MEASUREMENT FROM A LIQUOR STORE TO A CHURCH IS MEASURED FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE.
WHAT IS THE SITUATION WITH THAT? YEAH, YEAH, NO, YEAH, SO WE FOLLOW, UH, THE STATE STATUTE ACTUALLY DIRECTS THE CITY AND HOW TO DO THE MEASUREMENT.
AND YOU CAN FIND THIS ALSO ON THE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE COMMISSION WEBSITE IN THEIR FAQ SECTION AND IT DIRECTS US TO DO A DOOR-TO-DOOR MEASUREMENT.
AND SO WHEN YOU SAY DOOR-TO-DOOR, IT'S WALKING OUT THE DOOR OF THE PROPOSED LIQUOR STORE TO THE CURB WALKING ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, GOING TO THE INTERSECTION CROSSING, WALKING ALONG THE PROPERTY LINES TO THE CHURCH AND THEN TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE CHURCH? CORRECT? YES.
DID THIS, DID THIS, SORRY, MR. JOVANI, I'LL ASK QUESTIONS.
YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER LIQUOR STORES, UH, THAT YOU'RE WORKING OR THAT YOU OWN AND OPERATE, CORRECT? MR. GIOVANNI? YES.
AND, UM, WHERE ARE THOSE STORES LOCATED? UH, ONE IS ON I 10 AND CAMP BULLIS 64 57 CAMP BULLIS ROAD ONE IS ON 64 47 CAMIS ROAD AND ONE IS 1 9 7 5 0 HIGHWAY 46.
AND THAT'S IN BULVERDE? YES SIR.
UM, HAVE YOU HAD ANY, UH, COMPLAINTS? NO SIR.
CABC OR ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE LAST 25 YEARS? NOT A SINGLE ONE, SIR.
HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO, UH, THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCH? THAT IS, NO, BECAUSE WE, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FAR FROM A-T-A-B-C LAW.
SO WE MADE SURE THAT WE ARE FAR FROM 300 FEET.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT WE MADE SURE THAT WE ARE 300 FEET FAR FROM THE CHURCH.
BUT, BUT HAVE YOU TALKED TO OR HAD A REPRESENTATIVE TALK TO THE PASTOR OF THAT CHURCH THERE ON SALE? NO, BECAUSE WHENEVER I PASS BY, THE CHURCH IS CLOSE, IT'S NOT THERE.
UM, I'M GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE DISCUSSION, UH, BUT I WILL OPEN THIS UP TO QUESTIONS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
UH, LET'S BEGIN WITH COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT QUESTIONS? YES.
COMMISSIONER, JUST MY QUESTION MAYBE TO CITY STAFF IS HOW WAS THE, WAS THERE A LIQUOR LICENSE OR ALCOHOL, I GUESS BEER AND WINE LICENSE FOR THE PICNIC STORE PRIOR TO, HOW DID THEY HOLD THAT LICENSE IF IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CHURCH? I GUESS MY QUESTION, IT COULD HAVE BEEN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING OR IT COULD HAVE HAD ITS OWN ALCOHOL VARIANTS, BUT, UM, CONSIDERING A LOT OF THIS AREA WAS DOWN ZONED FROM C3 R TO C TWO AND A, UM, IT COULD JUST HAVE BECOME NON-CONFORMING DURING THOSE PROCESSES.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO.
ANY OTHER COMMERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS? JUST ONE QUICK ONE, COMMISSIONER.
WHAT'S THAT? UH, THIS CHURCH THAT'S BEING REFERRED TO IS JUST ACROSS THE STREET ON RAVO.
AND NOT ACROSS, BUT ON THE, LIKE, ON THE SIDES I'M LOOKING ON A MAP.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST ACROSS THE STREET, SO YEAH, I MISSED THAT.
YOU'RE LESS THAN, YOU'RE MORE THAN 300 FEET.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? ON MY LEFT.
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OF A QUESTION I HAD, UM, WHICH IS THE C TWO NA REZONING.WHEN DID THAT OCCUR? I KNOW IT WAS ANSWERED IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
AND WAS THAT PART OF A LARGE AREA REZONING PROCESS OR DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THAT REZONING? GIMME ONE SECOND.
I CAN FIND THE ORDINANCE JUST TO CONFIRM.
ALRIGHT, WELL STAFF'S WORKING ON THAT.
UM, 'CAUSE NO ONE LIKES DEAD AIR.
UH, I'M GONNA EX BEGIN MY DISCUSSION.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, I'M SORRY.
I JUST CAME UP WITH A QUICK QUESTION, PLEASE.
SO IT SAYS IN CHATO NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ASSOCIATION AND BRADY GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE IN SUPPORT.
SO QUESTION DOES STAFF, WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION DO YOU GET OR DID YOU GET FOR THEIR SUPPORT? WAS THAT, CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? BRONTE CAN ANSWER.
I RECEIVED A PETITION WITH, UM, LIKE SUPPORT AT THE TOP AND THEN NAMES AND SIGNATURES AND PHONE NUMBERS.
SO YOU HAD SOME SIGNATURES AND THEY, OKAY.
SO IN YOUR ANALYSIS, DID YOU INDEED FIND THAT DOOR TO DOOR DISTANCE FROM THE PROPOSED PROPERTY TO THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCH'S DOOR? WAS IT GREATER THAN 200 FEET OR, I JUST, I ACTUALLY JUST DID A QUICK MEASUREMENT.
IT'S VERY APPROXIMATE, BUT IT CAME OUT TO ABOUT 375 FEET FROM THE FRONT DOOR OF THIS BUILDING GOING ACROSS THE STREET, HEADING EAST AND GOING DOWN TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THE EXISTING CHURCH BUILDING.
IS THAT, UH, THE RIGHT LINE OF SIGHT OR DID YOU TRAVERSE THE STREET? UH, I, AGAIN, I WENT TO THE INTERSECTION WHERE YOU COULD APP APPRO APPROPRIATELY CROSS THE STREET.
NO, JAY WALKING, IF THAT MAY IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? SO QUESTION FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
SO DOES THE STATE LAW SAY, UH, AS TRAVERSED OR DIRECT LINE OF SIGHT
SO I'M READING THIS, UH, MEASUREMENT INSTRUCTIONS.
IT SAYS, UM, SHOULD MEASURE IN A STRAIGHT LINE FROM THE NEAREST POINT OF THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE PROPOSED LOCATION TO THE NEAREST POINT OF THE PROPERTY LINE OF ANY OF THESE FACILITIES.
SO I DON'T THINK, AGAIN, NOT A LAWYER, I'M JUST ASKING RIGHT.
IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S AS YOU WALK OR DRIVE, BUT IT'S A DIRECT LINE OF SIGHT.
ARE WE, SO, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AND DIFFERENT WAYS OF MEASURING FOR SCHOOLS VERSUS CHURCHES VERSUS HOSPITALS.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE YOU ARE PARTICULARLY LOOKING AT, BUT I'M LOOKING AT A REFERENCE FROM THE TEXAS ALCOHOL BEVERAGE COMMISSION AND THE LANGUAGE IN OUR, IN OUR CITY CODE AND REFLECTS WHAT'S IN THE STATE STATUTE.
YEAH, THE INSTRUCTIONS I'M READING RIGHT NOW SAYS CHURCHES AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUT THOSE ARE SEPARATELY, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT MEASUREMENTS.
A CHURCHES ARE MEASURED DIFFERENTLY FROM A SCHOOL.
A SCHOOL IS PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE, BUT A CHURCH AND HOSPITALS ARE FRONT DOOR TO FRONT DOOR AND ACCORDING TO THE NOTICE IT SAYS 300 FEET MEASURED ALONG THE PROPERTY LINES OF THE STREET FRONT AND FROM DOOR TO DOOR AND INDIRECT LINE ACROSS INTERSECTIONS.
SO AGAIN, WE CAN'T REALLY GO STRAIGHT FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE.
IT HAS TO START AT THE FRONT DOOR, GO TO THE STREET, AND THEN CROSS AT AN INTERSECTION WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE AND THEN GO TO THE, UH, FRONT PROPERTY LINE OF THE NEXT LOCATION AND THEN TO THEIR FRONT DOOR.
NO, I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO NITPICK, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
YEAH, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE MEASUREMENTS ARE SO CLOSE.
THAT UH, AGAIN, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO OUR DELIBERATIONS THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE, UM, WHAT BY WHAT BASIS THAT WE'RE MAKING OUR DECISIONS MM-HMM
AND THIS IS ALSO REGULATED HEAVILY WITH TABC.
SO THIS DEFINITELY WILL BE REVIEWED BY THEM WHEN HE, IF HE GETS THIS, THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO GET THE LIQUOR LICENSE THROUGH TABC.
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CITY STANDARDS, HE DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE A VARIANCE, AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE.UM, BUT IF HE IS WITHIN 300 FOUND TO BE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE CHURCH FROM DOOR TO DOOR, THEN HE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A LETTER FROM THE CHURCH THAT SAYS THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH HIM OPERATING AT THIS LOCATION.
WELL, I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE, UM, REZONING.
IT WAS PART OF A LARGE AREA REZONING IN 2023 AUGUST.
COMMISSIONER CHASE QUESTION, IT'S FOR CITY STAFF.
WHEN YOU DID THE LARGE AREA REZONING, WAS IT A RECOMMENDATION FROM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT THEY WANTED THIS AREA, UM, NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES OR WAS THAT CITY PRESENTED? SO WHEN WE DO LARGE AREA REZONINGS, WE'RE TRYING TO MOST PRO APPROPRIATELY ALIGN THE USE OF THE PROPERTY WITH, UH, WITH THE ZONING DESIGNATION.
BUT I THINK BASED ON THIS AREA, WHEN WE DID THIS LARGE AREA, WE WORK IN COORDINATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE COUNCIL OFFICE BECAUSE IT'S INITIATED BY THE COUNCIL OFFICE.
AND UM, A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES WERE A HIGHER INTENSITY.
THEY WERE LIKE A C3 WITH THE R RESTRICTION ON ALCOHOL.
UM, SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY BROUGHT DOWN THE INTENSITY TO A C TWO AND RATHER THAN JUST RESTRICTING ALCOHOL, WHICH MEANS YOU CAN HAVE IT ON PREMISE, UM, TO PURCHASE, THEY MOVED IT DOWN TO A C TWO NA, WHICH MEANS NO ALCOHOL SALES ON PREMISE MS. ALRIGHT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TO YOU MR. GIOVANNI.
UH, YOU ALSO OWN THE PICNIC STORE THERE, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN OPERATING THAT? 15 YEARS, SIR.
HAVE YOU HAD COMPLAINTS FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS? NO, SIR.
AND YOU DO SELL BEER AND WINE? YES, SIR.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN, HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THAT? 15 YEARS, SIR, THAT PROPERTY, THAT GAS STATION IS THERE FOR LAST 50 YEARS, SIR.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE.
UM, LIKE SO MANY OF OUR CASES THAT COME BEFORE US, AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE.
IT IS A CLOSE CASE TO MY MIND.
UM, AS WE SEE FROM THE NOTICES OF SUPPORT, THERE IS A WIDE MARGIN OF SUPPORT FOR THIS CHANGE IN ZONING.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, I WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MR. GIOVANNI, UH, MR. GRES, WHO I BELIEVE IS THE PRESIDENT OF EL CHATO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND, UH, MS. PENA, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF WESTWOOD SQUARE ON SATURDAY.
UH, AS WE WALKED AROUND THE BLOCK AND SPOKE TO THE VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY, UH, TO A PERSON, UH, THEY EITHER WERE IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CHANGE OR WERE NOT OPPOSED TO THE ZONING CHANGE.
AND THEY SAID THEY HAD NO ISSUES WITH THE PICNIC STORE OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS.
UH, THIS INCLUDES THE ANIMAL CLINIC NEXT DOOR.
UM, HOWEVER, I ALSO SPOKE TO THE PASTOR OF THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCH LAST NIGHT AND HE HAD A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT, YOU KNOW, STEMMED FROM ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT HAD SOLD ALCOHOL IN THE PAST.
THE MAUI CLUB, WHICH WAS ON GENERAL MCMULLEN, UH, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 400 FEET AS THE CROWS FLY CROW FLIES FROM, UH, THIS LOCATION.
UH, WE HAVE MS. ESPINOZA HERE TODAY TO VOICE HER OPPOSITION AND SHE'S, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY ABOUT 500 FEET AWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF GENERAL MCMULLEN.
UM, SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WE HAVE IS TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN SUPPORT.
ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSED ASSOCIATION.
WE HAVE NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES, ALTHOUGH NOT IN EQUAL NUMBERS.
WE HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN AN EMPTY SPACE AND A LIQUOR STORE.
AND SO I AM SOMEWHAT AT A LOSS, UH, AS TO WHAT MY MOTION SHOULD BE.
UM, SO I'M GONNA GO A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER AND ASK FOR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME.
JUST A QUESTION FOR MAYBE FOR THE APPLICANT.
IS HE PLANNING TO MAIN CONTINUE THE SERVICES FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORE IN THE AREA PLUS ALSO LIQUOR AS WELL? YES.
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
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ON MY LEFT CAN HELP ME OUT? UH, WHAT'S IT, I'LL, I'M LOOKING AT THE PHOTOGRAPH OF THIS.ARE YOU GONNA OCCUPY ALL THE BALANCE OF THE BUILDING WITH THE LIQUOR STORE? HOW BIG A SPACE? NO SIR.
WE JUST, I'M JUST MR. DANI, HOLD ON.
WAIT TILL YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.
NO, I'M JUST GONNA USE ONE PART OF THE, FOR THE LIQUOR STORE BECAUSE, WELL, IT'S TO THE PICNIC STORE OR AT THE NO, CLOSE TO THE PA PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WHEREVER MY, I'M FAR FROM TABC LAW GIVES ME, YOU KNOW, I'M FOLLOW, GONNA FOLLOW THE TABC LAW.
WHICHEVER PLACE I'LL, I'LL USE THAT PLACE.
AND THE OTHER PLACE I'M TRYING TO LEASE IT FROM LAST TWO YEARS.
UM, IT'S VERY HARD TO GET A TENANT.
I HAD A, A COMPANY CALLED PACESETTER AT THE COVID.
THEY LEFT, THEY USED TO BE A DAILY WAGES PEOPLE, THEY USED TO RUN A BUSINESS LIKE DAILY WAGES, YOU KNOW, BUT FROM LAST TWO YEAR, TWO AND A HALF YEARS MORE THAN THAT, THE LEASE GOT OVER AND I PUT SIGNS OVER THERE ALSO.
BUT I'M GONNA PUT ANOTHER SIGN FOR MY OTHER SPOT ONCE I, IF YOU APPROVE, THEN I'M GONNA PUT ANOTHER SPOT AND NOW I'LL BE THERE SO I CAN TALK TO PEOPLE AND I TRY TO LEASE THE PLACE.
WAIT, WHAT ARE YOUR OPERATING HOURS? ARE THEY GONNA BE SIMILAR TO, IT'S GONNA BE 10 IN THE MORNING TO NINE IN THE NIGHT AS A-T-A-B-C LAW? IT'S A-T-A-B-C LAW THAT, UH, WE CAN OPEN 10 AND WE HAVE TO CLOSE AT NINE AND SIX DAYS A WEEK SUNDAY.
WE ARE NOT, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO OPEN IT.
COMMISSIONER WOODS THAT, ANYTHING FURTHER? THAT'S IT.
NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO TO SAY CHAIR.
UM, I JUST, I, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
IT APPEARS THAT YOU HAVE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE SUPPORTING YOU, ONE THAT'S NEUTRAL AND YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH T-A-B-C-I-I AGREE WITH YOU CHAIR THAT IT'S ALWAYS BETTER.
I, IN MY MIND, TO HAVE A PLACE THAT'S OCCUPIED THAN NOT.
AND UM, I THINK IF THERE WAS A HISTORY OF ISSUES WITH YOU AND YOUR STORES, IT WOULD BE NO, SIR, NEVER A PROBLEM, BUT NEVER FROM MY POSITION.
I THINK YOU'VE, YOU'VE DONE SIR WHAT YOU CAN TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, HAVING, UH, A SHARED EXPERIENCE IN OUR DISTRICT OF CHALLENGES WITH, UH, REPURPOSING COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS AND LEASING OLDER VACANT PROPERTIES, UM, WHEN THERE'S A HISTORY OF A GOOD OPERATOR AND SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, THAT SHOWS SUPPORT, UM, THAT INCLINES ME TO BELIEVE THAT, UM, UTILIZING A PROPERTY, UH, WHEN THERE AREN'T OTHER CONCERNS, UM, IS USUALLY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
UM, THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS ACTUALLY, THERE WAS NO RESPONSE.
SO ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT AN OPPOSITION.
SO THEY WERE THE ONES WHO LEFT THE VOICEMAIL.
OH, BUT DO THEY REPRESENT THE ASSOCIATION OR WAS JUST A SINGLE, SINGLE MS. MS. PENA IS THE PRESIDENT AND SHE DOES REPRESENT.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE ON MY RIGHT? COMMISSIONER CHASE? UM, I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT THIS, UM, MOSTLY BECAUSE LOOKING AT THE CRIME MAP VERSUS, UM, WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY NON-ALCOHOLIC, THERE'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHERE THERE IS ALCOHOL SERVED OR AVAILABLE ISN'T MUCH DIFFERENT FROM THE AREA.
THAT'S KIND OF ALMOST LIKE A, UM, WHAT WERE THOSE CALLED? THE, THE DRY COUNTIES
UH, THERE'S NO LIQUOR STORES UNTIL YOU GET TO, UM, ALMOST 35 OR HIGHWAY 90.
UM, AND THE CRIME SEEMS TO BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THROUGH THIS WHOLE AREA.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK CRIME ALONE IS, UM, A REASON WHEN IT, THAT'S IT.
IT'S JUST NOT SUPPORTED BY THE EVIDENCE ON THE CRIME MAPS FOR DENYING A BUSINESS THAT HAS GOOD, UM, HISTORY OPERATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
NO, I'LL MAKE SURE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE, AND THE PROPERTY WILL BE SAFE.
UH, YOU NOW YOU MAY REALLY SIT DOWN.
I APPRECIATE, UH, THE INSIGHTS OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
UM, PRIOR TO MAKING MY MOTION, UH, MR. GIOVANNI, I WOULD LIKE YOU AND YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TO REACH OUT TO MS. ESPINOSA HERE.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCH.
UM, IDEALLY I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GIVE YOUR NUMBER TO MS. ESPOSA.
IF SHE HAS CONCERNS OR SOMETHING COMES UP, SHE CAN REACH YOU DIRECTLY.
UM, AND WITH THAT I DO APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S
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RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.UH, I STRUGGLED WITH THIS CASE A LOT, BUT GIVEN WHAT I SAW AS I WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS I WALKED THE IMMEDIATE PRECINCTS OF THIS ZONING CHANGE AND SPOKE TO PEOPLE THERE, UH, SPEAKING TO THE PRESIDENTS OF TWO OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THIS ISSUE, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE.
ALRIGHT, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONS ON MY RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
UM, AND TO THE APPLICANT AND APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, I WILL CONTACT, UH, THE PASTOR OF THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCH.
ASK HIM FOR PERMISSION TO GIVE YOU HIS NUMBER.
AND PRESUMING I GET THAT, I WILL PASS IT ON TO YOU.
ALRIGHT, SEEING THAT THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE BY ME WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, AND MS. ESPINOSA, UM, LET ME GIVE YOU MY NUMBER AS WELL.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU EVER NEED, PLEASE DO THAT.
AT THIS POINT WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UH, ITEM STAFF, IF YOU WOULD.
MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS LOCATED AT 1 8 3 7 SANTA MONICA.
GOING FROM R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO RESIDENTIAL DWELL DWELLING UNITS TO RM SIX.
OKAY, THEY'RE GOING FROM R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DISTRICT FOR TWO UNITS, UH, FROM THAT TWO N-C-C-D-S, WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A ROOMING HOUSE AND A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR, UM, A BED AND BREAKFAST.
ZERO OPPOSED LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
UH, DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OR ZONED R FOUR R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND OH 1.5 MID-RISE OFFICE DISTRICT.
THE EXISTING R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED N-C-C-D-S NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A ROOMING HOUSE AND A SPECIFIC USE AUTHOR AUTHORIZATION FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS TO DEVELOP A ROOMING HOUSE, THE NC ZONING DESIGNATION AND ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST ALLOWS FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A BREAD AND BRE BREAD AND B BREAD, BED AND BREAKFAST AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES IN THE FUTURE.
STAFF HAS CONCERNS THAT THE PROPOSED USES ARE INAPPROPRIATELY LOCATED ABUTTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND FURTHER THE POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
ADDITIONALLY, THE SIZE OF THE SEDWICK PROPERTY HAS SPATIAL LIMITATIONS PREVENTING PROPER PARKING AND ADEQUATE BUFFERS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A ROOMING HOUSE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MM-HMM
AND LISTEN, I I LIKE BREAD AND CIRCUS.
UH, SORRY SIR, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? YES.
SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 1837 SANTA MONICA STREET.
AND IF YOU WOULD TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT PLEASE.
THE GOAL OF THE PROJECT IS TO INCREASE THE POTENTIAL USE OF THIS PROPERTY AND ALIGN IT WITH MY NEIGHBOR, UH, WHICH IS A C ONE AND ADDITIONAL OTHER LOTS THAT ARE NEARBY BORDERING THE WEST AVENUE.
UH, IF YOU CAN SEE, ACTUALLY GO BACK TO, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
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ARE LARGE COMMERCIAL LOTS BORDERING ALL OF WEST AVENUE.UH, AND I, AFTER CONSULTATION WITH STAFF, I DECIDED TO PURSUE AN NC CD DISTRICT, UH, CBS AS I FELT IT WAS A GOOD IN-BETWEEN FROM THE COMMERCIAL TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
THE WAY THAT I'VE ORGANIZED MY SITE PLAN IS SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE, UH, EAST ON THE WESTERN SIDE FROM RIGHT THERE, UH, ON THE WESTERN SIDE AND ALLOW, UH, A GENEROUS 15 FOOT LANDSCAPING BUFFER PLUS IN ANOTHER EIGHT FOOT, UM, I BELIEVE IT IS OF SPACE BEFORE ANY DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE IDEA IS TO STILL MAINTAIN THAT BUFFER WHILE ALLOWING FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED, UH, AND USED.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S, THANK YOU MR. MOORE.
THAT'S, UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
VERY WELL YOU DON'T GET A REBUTTAL THEN.
THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE COMMISSIONER KELLUM TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
SO, MR. MOORE, THE, THE BED AND BREAKFAST, IS IT GOING TO BE IN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT YOU HAVE OR ARE YOU BUILDING AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE IN THE BACK? SO THE BED AND BREAKFAST IS NOT WHAT I'M PURSUING IMMEDIATELY.
I AM HAVING MOST SUCCESS RIGHT NOW IN LONG-TERM RENTALS.
SO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS A DUPLEX WHERE ONE HALF IS, UH, A LONG-TERM RENTAL AND THE OTHER HALF IS A SHORT TERM.
UH, I'M HAVING THE MOST SUCCESS WITH THE LONG-TERM.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY I DECIDED TO GO WITH THE NCCD OF THE ROOMING HOUSE TO ALLOW ME TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL LONG-TERM RENTALS.
UH, WHAT I'M SEEING IS, UM, NURSES, UH, THAT ARE WORKING, THERE'S A, A NUMBER OF HOSPITALS NEARBY.
UM, I'M ALSO SEEING A NUMBER OF ACTUALLY TOURISTS THAT ARE DOING LONG STAYS, UM, TO EXPERIENCE KIND OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, UH, AS IT IS KIND OF CLOSE TO THE DEVELOPMENTS UP I 10, UH, AND FOUR 10.
AND THEN ALSO IT'S VERY QUICK TO GET DOWNTOWN.
UH, SO I WANTED TO ACTUALLY PURSUE THE ROOMING HOUSE DEVELOPMENT MYSELF.
UM, BUT I FIGURED IF I WAS GONNA GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND I COULD PUT IN A A BED AND BREAKFAST OPTION, UM, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO DO.
AND THE NEIGHBOR, THE COMMERCIAL NEIGHBOR ADJACENT TO YOU, WHAT, WHAT DO THEY DO? I DO NOT KNOW
UM, THEIR LOT IS EXTREMELY DILAPIDATED.
UM, WHEN I STARTED DIGGING INTO WHAT THE ZONING WAS IN THIS AREA, UM, I EVEN TRIED TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE OWNER.
I NOTICED THAT THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING, UM, BUT NOT VERY EFFECTIVELY.
SO I WANTED TO TRY TO DEVELOP, UH, AND, AND MAYBE MAKE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT NICER IN THE AREA AND PUT A LITTLE PRESSURE ON THE OWNER TO EITHER HURRY UP WITH WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, UM, AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE BEAUTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD A LITTLE BIT WITH MY OWN DEVELOPMENT.
SO YOU PLAN TO REMODEL THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW? UM, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE I DID WANNA REMAIN IN PLACE, BUT I DID WANT TO ADD, SO WHAT THIS LOOK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE, UM, WOULD BE DRASTICALLY CHANGED WITH LANDSCAPING, UM, AND TREES TO MAKE THAT BUFFER ZONE THAT I MENTIONED AND ALLOW FOR, UH, IN THE, IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE WITH THE PARKING.
UM, WE, WE WERE PLANNING TO DO DEPRESSED PARKING WITH A RAISED STRUCTURE ABOVE IT.
NOW IN THE, IN THIS VIEW THAT WE'RE SEEING THE BUFFER, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 15 FOOT BUFFER WOULD START AT THE FENCE LINE? CORRECT.
AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT BUFFER OR AN EIGHT FOOT AREA FROM I THINK THE TOTAL DISTANCE THERE IS 22 FEET IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
AND YOUR PARKING WOULD BE UNDER ALL ALONG THAT SIDE INCORRECT.
THE PARKING WOULD ACTUALLY BE DEPRESSED UNDERNEATH THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE.
SO IT WOULD BE SEMI SUBMERGED LIKE A BASEMENT PARKING.
I DON'T HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
ALRIGHT, UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER WIT AT FIRST AND THEN COMMISSIONER WATSON.
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DRAWING HERE AND JUST ADDING UP THE NUMBERS.YOU'VE GOT A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THERE ON THE RIGHT.
THEN IT SHOWS 12 FEET FOR THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED TO GET TO THE BACK.
YOUR'S, 50 FEET, THERE IS AN OVERLAP.
GOT 23 FEET LEFT, BUT YOU'RE SHOWING YOU'RE BUILDING AT 27 FEET.
SO IT'S LIKE SOMETHING'S NOT ADDING UP EVEN.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A SETBACK ON THE LEFT ON THIS.
UH, ALSO YOU'VE GOT A 25 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK THAT YOU'RE BUILDING CURRENTLY ENCROACHES ACROSS, ACROSS THE FRONT THERE.
SO I GUESS IT'S A DUAL QUESTION FOR YOU AND FOR STAFF.
IF HIS CURRENT BUILDING IS CURRENTLY VIOLATING THAT BUILDING SETBACK, IS THAT A CITY 25 FEET OR IS THAT A DEED RESTRICTION SETBACK? KELLY'S CHECKING IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IN GENERAL WE HAVE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENTS, PARKING REQUIREMENTS, AND IMPERVIOUS COVER REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS ALREADY A BUILT OUT LOCATION, BUT AS WE DID NOTE IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT IS VERY LIMITED ON SPACE.
AND SO WE HAVE, UM, BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE TRAFFIC SITUATION AS FAR AS PARKING GOES BECAUSE UH, WE DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE PARKING AND EXITING OF VEHICLES FROM THAT SITE.
UM, I WAS JUST GONNA STATE, SO FOR THE EXISTING ZONING OF R SIX, YOU HAVE A SETBACK OF FIVE ON THE SIDE AND 10 IN THE FRONT.
AND THEN FOR IF YOU GO TO NC, YOU WOULD HAVE, UM, 15 AS A MAX IN THE FRONT.
THEY ACTUALLY WANT THE BUILDINGS CLOSER 'CAUSE THEY WANT THE PARKING IN THE BACK.
UM, AND I THINK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD, BUT HE SAID WHEN YOU WERE CALCULATING THE SIDE NUMBERS, HE SAID THAT THEY OVERLAPPED THERE AND THAT'S, AND THAT WOULD BE FOR SOMETHING FOR HIM TO WORK OUT WITH LANDSCAPING IF AND WHEN THIS WOULD GO TO PERMITTING.
SO IS HE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER? IS THAT JUST SOMETHING THAT'S BEING, HE'S OFFERING THE, UM, THE REQUIRED BUFFER FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONED PROPERTY THAT IS A BUDDING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THERE IS A REQUIRED 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE, HE WOULD, HE COULD SPEAK WITH THE LANDSCAPING TEAM TO WORK WITH THAT.
I'M NOT CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY REVIEW ALL THOSE PLANS AND MAYBE THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT COULD BE PART OF THE BUFFER, MAYBE NOT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THERE'S ALWAYS THE CHANCE OF REQUESTING A VARIANCE WITH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WHICH WOULD BE A SEPARATE, UH, PUBLIC, UH, PROCESS IF I MAY.
IT, IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT'S REALLY TIGHT, TIGHT IN HERE TRYING TO FIT EVERYTHING ONTO SOMETHING, UH, THAT HAS ME CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, NOT NECESSARILY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING OF IT, BUT IT'S JUST, UH, AGREED.
SO IT IS, UH, A SMALLER SPACE.
UM, I, I WILL MENTION THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD START AT THIS LINE, UH, BEHIND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, UH, FOR THE NEW STRUCTURE.
AND THIS IS WHERE I DO INTEND TO HAVE THAT, UM, THAT LANDSCAPE, YOU KNOW, ZONE.
UH, AND THEN THE PARKING WOULD, WOULD GO UNDER THE STRUCTURE.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE INTENT OF THE LANDSCAPING BUFFER IS SO THAT WE CAN, UH, REDUCE LINE OF SIGHT KIND OF VISUAL POLLUTION.
UM, AND THEN ALSO TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER'S HAPPENING AT THE COMMERCIAL LOT DOESN'T PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, NOISE POLLUTION OR, OR VISUAL POLLUTION GOING TO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AS WELL.
UM, SO I HAVE INCLUDED, UH, AS WELL A PROPOSAL FOR, LIKE I MENTIONED THAT DEPRESSED AREA.
UH, I WANTED TO PUT, AS WE SLOPE DOWN, I'LL HAVE TO PUT A RETAINING WALL, UM, THAT WOULD I ACT AS AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER.
SO YOUR BUILDING WILL BE ON TOP OF THE PARKING, CORRECT? YES SIR.
UH, AND I CAN, I JUST SEE AT THAT ANGLE TRYING, I, IT'S CHALLENGING TRYING TO BACK YOUR CAR OUT, TURN AROUND AND GO BACK OUT.
'CAUSE I HAVE A SHALLOW AREA IN MY DRIVE THAT RIGHT BACK OUT AND YOU NEED PROBABLY 20 PLUS FEET TO DO THAT VERY WELL FROM, FROM THE END OF THE PARKING STALL TO THE PROPOSED RETAINAGE WALL IS 23
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FEET, I THINK IT SAYS ON THERE THAT I MENTIONED MEASURED.UM, SO THE, THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN IN THE PARKING AISLE WE HAVE THE 23 FEET THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR SUFFICIENT, UH, TWO LANE DRIVING.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER WHIT SAID ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, UH, WE'LL WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN A LITTLE BIT.
COMMISSIONER KELLUM, COMMISSIONER WATSON, UH, FOR STAFF, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE SITE PLAN, THE REAR CORNER OF THE PROPERTY ON THE DEVELOPED PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SIDE, BEHIND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, IT SAYS PROPERTY CORNER AT BUILDING CORNER.
UM, IS THAT PERMITTED WITH CURRENT SETBACKS OR WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS FOR? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VERY REAR OF THE PROPERTY? YES.
THE, YEAH, HERE IT ACTUALLY, SO THAT PROPERTY LINE RIGHT THERE ACTUALLY ABUTS AN ALLEY.
IT'S NOT FINISHED OR NOT DEVELOPED, BUT IT IS AN ALLEYWAY AND SO THERE ARE NO SETBACKS ALONG THE REAR THERE.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
UM, FOR THE APPLICANT, WHAT IS THE PROPOSED HEIGHT OF YOUR STRUCTURE THAT'S TO BE DEVELOPED? THE MAXIMUM THAT I UNDERSTAND IS 25 FEET.
UM, I HAVEN'T DONE A SECTION OR ELEVATION CUT TO DEVELOP THAT, BUT I BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT I WANT TO DO CAN BE DONE LESS THAN 25 FEET.
UM, ARE YOU, UH, USING THE PART OF YOUR EXISTING STRUCTURE, UM, THAT'S A DUPLEX, THAT'S SHORT-TERM RENTAL AS AN AIRBNB, DO YOU HAVE AN STR PERMIT FOR THAT? YES.
UM, WHEN YOU SAY LONG-TERM RENTALS, WHAT KIND OF TERMS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 30 DAYS OR MORE.
UM, WHAT, UH, KIND OF SURFACE MATERIAL ARE YOU PLANNING TO USE FOR THE, UH, DRIVEWAY TO GET BACK AND PARKING? SO THIS HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION WITH LANDSCAPING AND PARKING AS WELL.
I'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS IN THE PAST.
UM, I'VE, I'VE WORKED OVERSEAS WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND WE, UM, HAVE, THEY, THEY PREFER, UH, A LOT OF THE PERVIOUS COVER, UM, DRIVEWAYS, WHICH IS, UH, CALLED THIS, THIS GRASS CRETE MATERIAL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IN BLACK AND WHITE THERE WHERE YOU HAVE A 40% PERVIOUS COVER, UM, THAT WILL ALLOW FOR STORM WATER TO PERCOLATE INTO THE GROUND.
AND THEN ALSO IT PROVIDES A MORE VISUALLY APPEALING, UH, DRIVEWAY BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE ACTUAL GROWING, UH, LIKE GRASS PODS BASICALLY THROUGH THERE.
UH, IN TALKING WITH PARKING, UH, THERE IS SOME CLAUSES THAT COULD BE INTERPRETED THAT, UH, THE GRASS THAT WAS PLANTED IN THOSE PODS MIGHT BE CONSIDERED WEEDS, UM, AND MIGHT BE UNSIGHTLY OR UNGAINLY.
UH, IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN I WOULD PROPOSE GOING WITH KIND OF A TWO LANE WITH A GRASS STRIP MEDIAN IN BETWEEN.
UM, BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T TELL WITH HOW SMALL THE SITE PLAN IS ON MY SCREEN.
UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM WHAT YOUR, IT LOOKS LIKE THE EXISTING SETBACK IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE ALL THE WAY BACK, UM, ON THE, THIS DEVELOPED SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE OP OPPOSITE SIDE THERE, KEEP GOING FROM THIS SIDE.
SO, UH, YEAH, THE, THE EXISTING SETBACK I BELIEVE IS TWO FOOT FOUR.
AND UNDER THE, I, I WAS PROPOSING THAT THIS PARKING WOULD BE UNDERNEATH THE GRADE, SO I WOULD BE ABLE, SO THE PARKING WOULD EXTEND THEN BASICALLY TO THE PROPERTY LINE IF THAT'S ALLOWED, BUT I HAVE THE SPACE TO PULL IT BACK AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN HOW DO YOU PROPOSE, UH, WITH A DEPRESSED PARKING, UH, ACCESS TO THE PARKING SPACES? IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN, UH, THIS IS THE RAMP GOING DOWN.
SO THE DRIVEWAY WOULD BE SLOPED DOWN, UH, STARTING APPROXIMATELY MIDWAY, UH, AT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THEN SLOPING DOWN UNTIL ABOUT THIS POINT TO ALLOW FOR PARKING.
AND I BELIEVE THAT I NEED, UH, THIS IS A BREEZEWAY THAT I'M PROPOSING, SO I WOULD NEED A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE HERE TO MAKE THOSE TURNS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE VEHICLES.
AND THEN, UM, MY LAST QUESTION IS FOR THE, UM, ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD ON TOP OF THE PARKING.
UM, HOW MANY UNITS IS THAT? CAN YOU JUST SUBSCRIBE A LITTLE BIT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THOSE PROPERTIES? SO THE, UH, THE INITIAL PLAN IS TO DO A ONE LEVEL STRUCTURE, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR AT LEAST THREE UNITS, THREE BEDROOM BATH, LIKE KIND OF ENCLOSED UNITS, WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE IN THE DUPLEX SIMILAR.
UM, BUT IF, UH, I WANT TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL, UH, WITH STAFF ON THE PARKING AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH AN ARCHITECT, UH, IF WE ARE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THIS MUCH PARKING, UH, THROUGH AN ENGINEERING DISCUSSION, I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO DO LIKE A ONE AND A HALF LEVEL, UH, AND
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INCREASE THAT TO MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE UNITS.AND THEN, UM, I'M ASKING THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY REQUESTING THE ROOMING HOUSE USE AND THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT A ROOMING HOUSE IS USED FOR.
UM, ARE THOSE, UH, THREE TO POTENTIALLY UP TO FIVE UNITS, UM, PLACES YOU ENVISION, UM, RENTING ON A WEEKLY BASIS, DOING SHORT, LIKE GOING THROUGH A SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMITTING PROCESS, IF THAT'S PERMITTED OR, UM, RENTING AS INDIVIDUAL UNITS FOR LONG-TERM RENTAL AND OR WITH THE BED AND BREAKFAST EDITION? WOULD YOU BE SEEING THAT MORE AS LIKE A HOTEL? IT'S NOT A HOTEL TECHNICALLY, BUT A HOTEL TYPE OF USE? SO, SO LIKE I WAS MENTIONING BEFORE IN MY EXISTING STRUCTURE HERE, IT'S BISECTED LIKE THIS AND WE'VE GOT, UM, ONE LONG TERM ON THIS SIDE AND A SHORT TERM ON THIS SIDE.
THE LONG TERM, UH, USE IS THE MOST SUCCESS THAT I'VE BEEN SEEING IN THIS AREA AND I'D WANT TO EXTEND THAT TO ADVERTISE AS LONG TERM.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MEANS 30 DAYS OR MORE TO WHOEVER'S INTERESTED IN COMING TO SAN ANTONIO.
UM, THAT, THAT'S HOW I ENVISION IT RIGHT NOW.
UH, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN? I AM NOT.
OKAY, WELL I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU LOOK INTO IT.
DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS TODAY, UM, AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING YOUR PROPOSAL FOR SEVERAL REASONS, UM, WHICH I'LL ADDRESS IN DISCUSSION.
UM, AND THEN BECAUSE OF JUST THE INTENSITY OF USE, UM, EVEN THOUGH, UH, THERE'S, YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE LIKE LOOKED INTO ZONING CODES AS WERE THE OTHER USES FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.
HAVE YOU AT LEAST BLOCK WALKED WITHIN 200 FEET? YES.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL EXTENDING TO THE EAST AND IT IS PRETTY PACKED RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S, IT'S SO BEYOND JUST SURVEYING IT.
HAVE YOU GONE TO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS NORTH DOOR TO GET ONLY, UH, I'VE ONLY TALKED TO THE NEIGHBOR THAT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, UH, TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DEVELOPING AND I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE OWNER.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON.
ANY FURTHER? COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO DR.
COMMISSIONER CHASE YOUR ALLEY.
IT'S CURRENTLY UN UM, UNFINISHED, BUT WOULD YOU CONSIDER A PASS THROUGH SINCE THE PARKING IS VERY TIGHT, YOU COULD HAVE PEOPLE COME IN THROUGH THE ALLEY AND EXIT THROUGH THE STREET.
WHEN, WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH PARKING, THEY SAID THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED.
UM, BUT IF IT IS, I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CHINKS? ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS ON MY RIGHT? UM, YES.
I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GO CLARIFY SOME OF THE, UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT THE STR AND EVERYTHING.
I DON'T BELIEVE IN STR WOULD BE PERMITTED WITH ROOMING HOUSE, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT IS OF A COMMERCIAL NATURE OF RENTING AREAS OUT.
SO TECHNICALLY WITH THIS CHANGE OF ZONING, THE STRS, I'M TRYING TO CONFIRM WITH OUR STR TEAM RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED OR NOT, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY HE WOULD BE RENTING OUT ROOMS ON A COMMERCIAL NATURE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. SANDERS.
AND WHEN YOU GET THE ANSWER, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL PRESENT IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
KELLUM QUESTIONS, UH, SHOULD I THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER WATSON ASKED AND THAT WAS ANSWERED.
SHOULD I DO THE JEOPARDY THEME SONG, MS. SANDERS? OR PERHAPS PERHAPS WE'LL DO THIS FOR TRIVIA LATER.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT LAST CALL.
UH, MS. SANDERS, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT HAPPENED AT PLANNING ON THIS CASE? PLANNING DEPARTMENT DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT TO THEY WERE CHANGING FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
KELLUM TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
WELL, IN LOOKING AT IT, I THINK LOOKING AT THE PLANS AND THE INTENSITY OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO ON THE PROPERTY MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE.
UH, CERTAINLY THE, THE FACT THAT IT'S, YOU HAVE NOT APPROACHED THE NEIGHBORS AND REALLY HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THEM BOTHERS ME AS WELL.
I, I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT BASED ON THIS LAND TO REALLY ACHIEVE SOMETHING THAT'S PRACTICAL.
UH, AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY DR.
COMMISSIONER HUY IS, PROVIDES A SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONERS, I'M GONNA COME TO YOU LAST.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER WATSON TO YOU, I, UH, AS PER CUSTOM I'M GONNA GO WITH THE, UH, COMMISSIONER FROM THE DISTRICT'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION ON THIS,
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KNOWING THE COMMUNITY BEST.UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
I THINK YOU WOULD'VE HAD A STRONGER PROPOSAL IF YOU HAD LOOKED INTO SOME OF THE, UH, PERTINENT HOUSING ISSUES AND THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IN YOUR PROPOSAL.
UM, I SEE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE, UM, AND APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE ALREADY CONTRIBUTING MIX, MISSING, MIDDLE AND UNUSUAL HOUSING TYPES, UM, TO THE MIX.
UM, THE ROOMING HOUSE AND BED AND BREAKFAST COMBO IS A LITTLE CONCERNING BECAUSE OF THE INTENSITY OF USE AND THE IMPACT THAT MIGHT HAVE, UM, FOR ME ON, UH, DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS MOVING FORWARD.
UM, I THINK DOING AS MUCH AS YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMEWHAT MITIGATES THE OPTIONS, UM, THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY BE PROVIDING TO OPEN UP ADDITIONAL HOUSING TYPES, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT LEAVES TOO MUCH, TOO MUCH ROOM FOR COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT WITHIN, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS, UM, IN ADDITION TO, UM, FOLLOWING COMMISSIONER KELLUM'S, UH, MOTION, I WILL, I WILL BE SUPPORTING HIS MOTION FOR DENIAL.
CAN DO I MR. MOORE? ONE SECOND.
UH, COMMISSIONER KELLEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR WHAT MR. MOORE? YES, PLEASE.
UH, SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE, THE INPUT.
UM, I, I HAVE PUT EVERYTHING THAT I POSSIBLY COULD OUT ONTO THAT PLAN, BUT I'M NOT, AND I'M NOT, UH, WEDDED TO THE IDEA AND I'M OPEN TO FEEDBACK AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE SAID.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO FOR A CONTINUANCE WHERE I MODIFY IT AND SHRINK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT? LOOK AT THE SHIP AND REVISIT COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
I ACTUALLY WOULD THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT IDEA.
UH, AND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IF YOU WOULD REMIND ME, DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH OR CAN THE MOTION, THE MOVEMENT AND THE SECOND WITHDRAW THE MOTION.
THE, I MEAN WE CAN ALSO JUST GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL VOTE AND IF EVERYONE SAYS NO, THEN THE FLOOR WILL BE OPEN FOR ANOTHER MOTION.
WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? WE'LL DO THAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THIS MOTION AT THIS TIME? LEFT RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE.
THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE BY DR.
KELLUM WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
SORRY, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I WAS THE SECOND.
SECOND WAS BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
COMMISSIONER CHASE? NO CHAIR WAS SAMANTHA.
THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED NO CHAIR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE, UH, FOR A APPROVAL, UH, FOR TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 1ST.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
THERE WAS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHASE.
NO, I WOULD JUST COME IN KIND OF, BUT DR.
KELLUM SAYING JUST REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
GET SOME SUPPORT AND THEN I, I DO SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT MAYBE MAKE IT FIT TO WHERE IT'S GONNA WORK FOR EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, SOME SUGGESTIONS, UH, FOR NEXT TIME I WOULD PREPARE, UM, A PRESENTATION, UM, EXPLAINING AND IF YOU CAN DO SOME, OBVIOUSLY IT IS EXPENSIVE TO DO LIKE COMPLETE MOCKUPS, BUT IF YOU JUST HAVE LIKE INSPIRATION YOU MENTIONED A FEW EXPERIENCES YOU'VE HAD AND THINGS YOU'VE KEPT IN MIND, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO VISUALIZE THAT IT'S A VERY UNUSUAL TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
UM, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND, UM, WHATEVER PROVISIONS YOU MAKE TO THE SITE PLAN IF YOU CAN MAKE A PRINTED COPY SO THAT WE CAN SEE IT AND HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, UM, OF ALL OF THE MEASUREMENTS IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY UNIQUE THINGS IN OVERLAP, UM, AND DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR COMMERCIAL USE ALL THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT WILL SAVE YOU SOME TIME.
UM, ADDITIONALLY I WOULD ALIGN, UH, DOUBLE CHECK ALL OF THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF, UM, PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF RENTALS YOU'RE USING.
UM, AND ADDRESS YOUR PROPOSAL TO ALIGN WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US.
UM, AND THEN IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT THE SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFULLY, UM, AND MAKE SURE THINGS ARE LABELED A LITTLE BIT, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO TELL WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT GRADES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT PRESENTATION WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO SOME OF THESE LIKE PIECES THAT YOU HAVE ON HERE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE EXAMPLES THAT'LL JUST HELP US SEE
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BETTER.AND THEN DEFINITELY, UM, I WOULD ANTICIPATE BASED ON HISTORY NOT GETTING A RESPONSE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT BLOCK WALK YOUR NEIGHBORS IN 200 FEET, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER CONCERNS THEY MIGHT HAVE, IF THERE ANY, ARE ADDRESSED IN WHATEVER YOUR PROPOSAL IS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON ON MY RIGHT DISCUSSION.
AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE OUR WONDERFUL CITY STAFF WHO HAVE GIVEN YOU ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE OF TWO WEEKS BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ WITH A SECOND BY, SORRY.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT CASE PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON AT HEATHER GOMEZ, SAN SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS LOCATED AT 1245 BAWLING BROOK STREET.
GOING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THERE WERE 32 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR WITHIN 200 AND ZERO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.
THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH THE 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED IS USED, IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS INAPPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE PROPOSED C TWO WOULD ALLOW USES SUCH AS LIQUOR, STORE AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK OIL, LUBE AND TUNA AND GAS STATIONS ON THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED AUTO AUTOMOTIVE USES MAY CAUSE AN INCREASE IN NOISE POLLUTION AND INCREASED TRAFFIC TO THE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOOD'S PRIMARY ACCESS POINT.
THE PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY USED FOR THE BEAR COUNTY EMERGENCY SUPPORT SERVICES, A LESS INTENSE USE THAN THE PROPOSED AUTO AUTO USE.
THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR MINOR AUTOMOTIVE APP REPAIR, OIL CHANGES AND LUBE IN EXISTING IN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO NOTED THEY WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE REQUEST TO NCCD ER COMMERCIAL WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LUBE.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND BEFORE YOU BEGIN, UM, ACTUALLY GIVE ME, GIMME YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FIRST.
UH, DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR APPLICATION TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO LUBE OIL CHANGE? YES.
ALRIGHT, TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT PLEASE.
WELL, I GUESS YOU WANNA SAY IT.
THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE, UH, THE POTENTIAL BUYER.
HE'S ACTUALLY GOT A CONTRACT ON THE BUILDING.
RELEVANT, I GUESS TO THE, THE APPROVAL OF THIS ZONING IF HE'S ABLE TO DO THE WORK THAT HE DOES.
YOU WANT TO STATE YOUR NAME? YEAH, IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND, UH, MY NAME IS BENNY CAMPOS AND, UH, MY ADDRESS, UH, 10 39 WEST WILDWOOD.
AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS.
SO, UH, THIS IS KIND OF SOMETHING THAT I WANT IS MORE OF AN EXPRESS SIDE OF IT.
I CURRENTLY OWN A, ANOTHER, UH, SHOP THAT DOES MORE INTENSE WORK.
UM, THIS WOULD BE MORE LIKE A SMALLER SHOP IN AND OUT, SAME DAY REPAIRS.
UM, MAINLY BEING, 'CAUSE ANYBODY IN THE TRADE IS REALLY HARD TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT'S REALLY GOOD RIGHT NOW AT THE MOMENT.
UM, KIND OF WANNA USE IT MORE AS A, LIKE A LEARNING STEP FOR PEOPLE, I GUESS.
KAY EXEC WANT TO LEARN THAT ARE GREEN AND TRY TO JUST KEEP 'EM AWAY MAYBE FROM LIKE, TRADE SCHOOLS THAT ARE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE.
SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANNA DO.
LIKE MORE LIKE SMALLER REPAIRS IN AND OUT SAME DAYS.
YEAH, AND HE CAME ACROSS THE PROPERTY.
UM, SOME GENTLEMAN OFFERED IT TO HIM AND HE HAS A CONTRACT ON IT, BUT OF COURSE, AND IT'S BEEN ABANDONED.
IT USED TO BE A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO THE, THE TWO GENTLEMEN THAT OWN IT ARE MEMBERS OF THAT VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO THEY'RE AWARE IT, IT'LL JUST SIT VACANT LIKE IT'S BEEN FOR WHATEVER.
AND AGAIN, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE BUILDING AND JUST NOT JUST HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, DILAPIDATED THERE.
SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE LESS INTENSE USE, I, I THINK WOULDN'T GENERATE AS MUCH TRAFFIC.
JUST, UH, UH, QUICK LUBE, UM, BRAKES, STRUTS, MINOR REPAIRS, UH, HIS MAIN, UM, UH, WHERE IS YOUR, I GUESS YOU CAN SAW CROSS, YOU CAN GIVE YOUR ADDRESS.
YEAH, MY MAIN SHOP'S ON SAW CROSS IN ROOSEVELT
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IN BETWEEN MISSION ROAD.SO IT'S UH, HE'S GOT AN INTENSE SHOP OVER THERE.
IT'S CLOSE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FOUR CASE, UH, TO COMMISSIONER REYES FOR UH, QUESTIONS.
CAN WE GO TO THE MAP THAT SHOWS THAT ONE? YEAH.
I GUESS IT DOESN'T HAVE THE STREET COMING OUT.
I WAS ALSO GONNA POINT OUT THAT, THAT THE LOCAL STREET ACTUALLY PUNCHES OUT TO YES, YES, YES.
SO I BELIEVE WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED LIKE THE PLAT, IT HAD THAT AS A LOT THERE, SO.
WELL THE REASON I WANNA BRING THIS UP IS MY QUESTIONS ARE GONNA BE FOCUSED ON SOME OF THE ISSUES I HAVE WITH THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPERTY.
SO FOR THE APPLICANT AND IT'S, UH, LA FUENTE, CORRECT? YES.
SO TO THE NORTH OF YOU, THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF YOU, THEY DON'T HAVE A DRIVEWAY TO OPPOSITE OF YOUR PROPERTY.
SO THERE IS NO CONFLICT THERE.
I ALREADY CHECKED ON GOOGLE MAPS, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT POINT THAT THEY, THEY CANNOT ACCESS, UH, IS IT BING BROOK OR BOWLINGBROOK? YEAH, BLING BROOK BLING.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE LETTERS AGAIN.
I DIDN'T, I FORGOT TO MENTION FROM THAT INDIVIDUAL.
UP ON THE TOP WE HAVE, UH, SIGNATURES FROM THEIR APPROVAL AND THEN ALSO 1231 ALSO.
SO WE HAVE SIGNATURES OF THE DIRECT NEIGHBORS RIGHT THERE.
SO WE HAVE THEIR SIGNATURE AND WE SUBMITTED IT TO STAFF HERE.
SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE SUPPORT FROM THEM.
AND ALSO THEY CANNOT ACCESS BALDING BROOK, WHICH WILL CAUSE A CONFLICT WITH THE TRAFFIC YOU'RE GONNA GENERATE.
SO IF WE GO TO TRAFFIC, I SAW YOUR TA YOUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
IT SAYS YOU WILL GENERATE 4.5 PEAK HOUR TRIPS, WHICH IS PRETTY LOW.
AND YOU HAVE A VERY LARGE, UH, EXISTING DRIVEWAY.
SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL NOT, THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WILL REMAIN AS IS.
IT WILL NOT BE MODIFIED WHATSOEVER.
HE'S JUST GONNA DO INTERNAL REPAIRS, JUST ELECTRICAL AND PAINT IT THROUGH THE OUTSIDE.
SO STICKING WITH THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING, YOU WILL, DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE ROOM FOR YOUR, YOUR CUSTOMER'S VEHICLES TO COME IN AND MAYBE STACK AS THEY WAIT TO THE, FOR THE BAYS SO THAT THERE'S NO CONFLICT WITH THE, THE LOCAL STREET? I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE PLENTY, YES.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE EXISTING BAYS THAT ARE THERE IN THE BUILDING? I BELIEVE THERE'S FIVE LARGE DOORS ON THE BUILDING.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT MORE OF A WAITING AREA MAYBE.
SO IT, IT, IT'S GONNA BE VERY LIKE, UH, APPOINTMENT ONLY.
I DON'T LIKE TO JUST, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING IN AND KEEP IT AS IN WHAT WE KNOW.
IT'S PROBABLY, I HAVE THREE GUYS IN THERE, MAX AND ME, FOUR, FOUR PLACE SHOP.
A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL BE DONE.
SO THE NEIGHBOR TO YOUR WEST, THERE'S A SIX FOOT EXISTING FENCE BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY AND THEIR PROPERTY.
HAVE THEY HAD ANY ISSUES BEFORE, UH, WITH THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT BEING THERE? NO ISSUES? NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
I, UH, PREVIOUS OWNER, I SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT HIM.
UHHUH, I THINK HE WOULD BE THE GUY I WOULD WANNA COMMUNICATE THE MOST WITH.
HE SAID THEY HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP.
AND I ALSO SEE THAT THEIR DRIVEWAY IS ACTUALLY FAR FROM YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY'S DRIVEWAY.
THAT IS, UH, CURRENTLY C FOUR, I BELIEVE.
OH C TWO, I THINK THE MAX IS C TWO.
SO THERE, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT POSSIBLE TO YOURSELF OR, 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S COMMERCIAL, CORRECT? IT IS, YES, IT IS COMMERCIAL.
BUT WHO'S TO SAY THAT THE OWNER DOESN'T COME IN AND WANNA REZONE TO A RESIDENTIAL.
OKAY, BUT AT THE TODAY, CORRECT.
AT THE MOMENT IT IS COMMERCIAL.
AND THEY HAVE ACCESS OFF OF INGRAM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT DRIVEWAY GOES TO NOWHERE.
UH, ACTUALLY THERE'S A DIRT PATH THAT GOES TO THE CREEK.
SO YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS OFF OF INGRAM, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UM, AND THERE'S TWO BUS STOPS RIGHT NEAR YOUR PROPERTY.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THERE'S NO CONFLICT BETWEEN YOUR CUSTOMERS, YOUR POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS, AND THOSE BUS STOPS.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS? UM, WE WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME AS MY PREVIOUS, UH, ONE MY OTHER SHOPS, EIGHT, UH, EIGHT TO SIX MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND THEN EIGHT TO TWO SUN, UH, SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS WERE CLOSED.
WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH SEVEN TO SEVEN? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
CAN AND STAFF, CAN WE ADD THAT AS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS, THE TIME AND THE, THE WORKING, THE WORK TIMES THE HOURS OF OPERATION? YES.
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THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER REYES.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? ON MY RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, THEN COMMISSIONER TSET, THEN COMMISSIONER WATSON.
A QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF, JUST, I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURE THROUGH GOOGLE MAPS.
HOW WAS, UM, UH, I GUESS A GARAGE ADDED TO AN R SIX? WAS IT PRIOR MAYBE? WAS IT CONFORMED OR IT IT WAS A VOLUNTEER FIRE STATION.
NO QUESTIONS FOR ME COMMISSIONER? WHAT'S THAT? SO THERE'S NO ACCESS OR YOU CANNOT GET PHYSICAL ACCESS TO INGRAM ROAD? UH, IS THAT THE ISSUE? YEAH, NO, NO.
I, I KNOW THERE, THERE'S A DRIVEWAY ON THEIR SIDE.
I JUST DON'T, I JUST, IT'S, IT'S DIRT SO IT'S LIKE IT WENT, IT GETS REALLY BAD WHEN IT'S MUDDY AND STUFF.
SO I MEAN IT JUST SEEMS LIKE POTENTIALLY THAT IF, IF, IF Y'ALL WANTED TO GO THAT, I MEAN WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE AN ACCESS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HARDER TO CREATE AN ACCESS ON, ON INGRAM VERSUS JUST LEAVING IT WHERE IT'S AT.
UM, BUT POTENTIALLY WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
YEAH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE COMMERCIAL ORIENTED VERSUS THE COMING INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
UM, OFF OF THAT AND UH, OR MAYBE SECONDARY ACCESS TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
UH, WE'LL DO WATSON FIRST, BUT, OR WE HAVE A BIG CLARIFICATION TO MAKE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S MAKE THE BIG CLARIFICATION THEN WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER WATSON.
SO IN, IN LISTENING TO, UM, THE APPLICANT REPRESENT WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO AT THIS LOCATION, HE MENTIONED BREAKS, BREAKS ARE NOT PART OF OIL LUBE AND TUNEUP.
UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE NC WITH THE CD FOR THAT SPECIFIED USE.
IF HE NEEDS TO GO HIGHER THAN THAT, HE NEEDS A C ONE CD FOR AUTO REPAIR.
WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF THE OTHER STUFF CO.
COMMISSIONER WATSON, DO YOU WANT ASK YOUR QUESTION STILL OR? YES, SHOULD I? ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO.
UM, IT MAY END UP TYING INTO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA ASK IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE ALL OF THESE ARE COVERED.
IF THIS WERE TO BECOME MORE THAN AN NC WITH, OR IT MIGHT EVEN BE WITH NC BECAUSE OF THIS SPECIFIC TYPE OF USE, WHAT KIND OF FENCING REQUIREMENTS, IF ANY, WOULD THERE BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF USE? SINCE THERE'S NOT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS SIX FEET.
SO THE, THE, SO THE PORTION I SEE THAT THERE'S THAT EXISTING SIX FOOT WOODEN FENCE AS I WOULD EXPECT THERE TO BE WITH CODE WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS, WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO BUILD FENCING AROUND THE OTHER PORT PROPERTY LINES OR NOT? HE'S A BUTTING C TWO TO THE SOUTH, SO NO, IT WOULD NOT BE, UM, REQUIRED.
AND ALSO THIS IS AN EXISTING TO PROTECT SOME VEHICLE UNIT, SOMETHING.
SO HONESTLY, A LOT OF THAT THE ONLY ITEMS, UM, THEY'LL MOST LIKELY ASK FOR, THEY MOST LIKELY WILL NOT ASK FOR A SITE WORK PERMIT BECAUSE THE SITE WORK IS ALREADY COMPLETED.
WHERE A LOT OF THOSE ITEMS, LIKE YOUR LANDSCAPING, YOUR FENCING, THOSE ARE ITEMS CLARIFIED IN THE SITE WORK.
OKAY, SO WHICH LEADS ME TO MY QUESTIONS.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO BECAUSE YOU SAID BREAK WORK AND, YOU KNOW, MINOR REPAIRS MM-HMM
UH, THAT PULLS IT OUTSIDE OF THE AUTO LUBE SORT OF, AND WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT.
WE JUST, WHEN YOU SAID BRAKES, IT'S MINOR, SO I MEAN IF YOU, BUT I MEAN, WELL WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS SET YOU UP FOR SUCCESS AT THIS POINT.
SORRY, MY PARENTS WERE TEACHERS
AND, UM, SO WHAT, WHAT I WANNA DO IS MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU, IF YOU PLAN ON DOING THAT, LET, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT RIGHT NOW, UH, WITHOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, TO START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN OR HAVE YOU COME BACK HERE IN TWO YEARS.
SO IF YOU ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, 15 MINUTE OIL CHANGE OPERATION AND THAT'S ALL YOU WANT TO DO, THEN THIS IS YOUR ANSWER.
UM, THE OIL LUBE AND TUNEUP WOULD BE OIL CHANGES, LUBE SERVICE, UM, AND THEN JUST A TUNEUP TO MAKE SURE SPARK PLUG WIRES, AIR FILTER FILTER CHANGES.
SO THOSE ARE YOUR TYPICAL LIKE JIFFY LUBES OR THE FIVE MINUTE, UH, OIL.
ISN'T THAT THE $5? IS IT FIVE? NO, NOT $5.
IT'S FIVE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK.
YOU KNOW, ANYHOW, IF IT'S OTHER MINOR, UH, AUTO REPAIRS SUCH AS BRAKES OR ANYTHING THAT GOES IN THAT CATEGORY OF REPAIR, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
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ENGINE REHAS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEN THAT IS AN AUTO REPAIR CATEGORY AND THAT WOULD NEED A C ONE CD, WHICH IS STILL IN THE RANGE AND HE COULD DO THAT.AND THE, THE SITE PLAN CAN EASILY BE MODIFIED TO JUST NOTE C ONE CD FOR AUTO REPAIR.
WELL WE DON'T, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO STRETCH ANYTHING OBVIOUSLY, IF WE CAN GET THAT.
I'M GONNA THEN GIVE THIS OVER TO COMMISSIONER REYES AND SEE IF HE WANTS TO SAY THAT C ONE CD WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.
UH, C ONE CD DOES NOT ALLOW ALCOHOL.
IT, IT, IT DOES ALLOW ALCOHOL AND THERE'S NO CHANCE THAT WE CAN ADD AN NA OR AN R TO EITHER NC OR C ONE.
THE ONLY TIME THAT YOU CAN ADD THE R THE NA IS C TWO OR C3.
SO IF WE STICK WITH THE NCCD THAT DOES NOT ALLOW ALCOHOL? NO.
OH YEAH, YOU CAN DO LIKE A, UM, A RESTAURANT.
AND I'M DOUBLE CHECKING A LIQUOR STORE.
CD, CAN WE PUT ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS LIKE YES.
AS LONG AS THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE ON IT.
YOU ARE, YOU CAN DO CONDITIONS.
BUT NOT INCLUDING ALCOHOL RESTRICTIONS.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER REYES, YOU WANNA THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A SECOND? 'CAUSE COMMISSIONER WATSON HAS A QUESTION.
UM, IF THE CD USE IS FOR AUTO REPAIR, DOES THAT AFFECT, DOES IT, DOES THE CD ONLY PERMIT AUTO REPAIR OR WOULD OTHER TYPES OF USES? THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED ANYTHING WITHIN THAT BASE ZONE, WHICH IS THE C ONE, UM, OR THAT AND THAT ADDITIONAL CD.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, A LIQUOR STORE IS NOT PERMITTED IN C ONE UNDER NC.
SO AGAIN, THEY COULD SELL ALCOHOL AS ALCOHOL AS LIKE AN ACCESSORY ITEM, LIKE A CONVENIENCE STORE OR AUTO REPAIR.
UM, JUST, YEAH, JUST IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT CONDITIONS, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLARIFIED.
UM, AND SO JUST SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, WHETHER IT WERE AN NC OR A C ONE, SHOULD SOMEONE WANNA OPEN A RESTAURANT THAT WOULD SELL BEER AND WINE OR A CONVENIENCE STORE THAT WOULD SELL BEER AND WINE, THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE A LIQUOR PACKAGE TYPE STORE, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
COMMISSIONER REYES, BACK TO YOU.
AND COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
YOU, YOU SAID IT BETTER THAN I WOULD'VE.
SO IF YOU WANNA GO WITH C ONE CD WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.
IS THAT WHAT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.
RIGHT? ALRIGHT, SO IN THIS CASE I'M GONNA ASK THE QUESTION, UM, YOU'VE AMENDED ONCE, IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO AMEND AGAIN TO BE C ONE CD WITH USES FOR AUTO REPAIR? YES SIR.
UM, COMMISSIONER REYES CAN ADD ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS ON HIS MOTION.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE, I WAS HOPING FOR TWO O'CLOCK, SO WE'RE ALREADY PASSED MY THING, THAT'S WHY I'M JUST ADDING TIME AT THIS POINT.
UM, IN ANY EVENT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? JUST MY QUESTION REGARDING THE OIL CHANGE.
ARE YOU PLANNING TO HAVE THE OIL, I GUESS HOW IS IT GONNA BE HELD ON THE PROPERTY? OH, YOU, UH, BARRELS, THERE'S BARRELS THAT, UH, HAVE THE DISPOSAL OF, OF UH, OIL.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A COMPANY THAT COMES IN DISPOSES OF IT.
AND THEN AS FAR AS LIGHTING AND FENCING, ARE YOU PLANNING TO PUT FENCING AROUND THE BUILDING OR JUST GO WITH THE EXISTING FENCE THAT'S ALREADY RUN TO YOUR NEIGHBORS? I PLAN ON LEAVING IT THE SAME WAY.
LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT FAMILIAR, TOO FAMILIAR AS FAR AS LIKE CRIME WISE, BUT IF WE DO HAVE A VEHICLE THAT HAS TO STAY THERE OR MAYBE A PERSONAL VEHICLE THAT WE LEAVE THERE, I DO WANT TO PROTECT PROTECTED.
UM, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE AROUND THE BUILDING.
IT WOULD PROBABLY JUST BE LIKE ONE AREA.
AND THEN ONE MORE QUESTION AS FAR AS SIGNAGE.
ARE YOU PLANNING TO PUT ANY LIKE TEMPORARY SIGNS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE TEMPORARY MAN THAT MOVE AROUND? ARE YOU PLANNING TO PUT ANYTHING LIKE THAT OFF THE INGRAM ROAD ACCESS? NO.
IF ANYTHING EXCUSE GONNA BE VERY SIMPLE.
I, I DON'T LIKE TOO MUCH STUFF.
IT'S NO MORE FURTHER QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S IT? ONE LAST ONE.
UH, SO THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED FOR THE 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
IS THAT THE CASE? IF THEY WERE TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN FOR SITE WORK, THEN IT WOULD MOST LIKELY COME UP, BUT IN THIS SITUATION THEIR SITE IS ALREADY DEVELOPED AND WITH A REMODEL IT WOULD NOT COME UP.
SO THE ZONING CHANGE DOESN'T, UH, CORRECT.
IT CAN, IF YOU REQUIRE IT AS PART OF THE, UM, SITE PLAN.
IF I WERE THAT HOMEOWNER THERE, I WOULD LIKE THAT, BUT, UH, DONE.
AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS CAN BE DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING, CORRECT? ALRIGHT.
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FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION, UH, LOOKING AT THE FACTS OF THE CASE, THE LOCATION, AND YOU'VE ANSWERED SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HAD ABOUT TRAFFIC AND ACCESS AND YOU KNOW, THE BUS STOPS THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS AND I FEEL WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS, UH, C ONE CD CONDITIONS WITH THE OPERATE THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS AND, UH, DOWNWARD LIGHT, UH, LIGHTING, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? YES, SIR.THEN I WILL MAKE, WITH THOSE CONDITIONS, I WILL MAKE, UH, OH NO, WE'RE STILL HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, SO NO, NO, YOU, UH, YOU CAN DO THAT.
I WOULD JUST SIMPLY SUGGEST THAT YOU SPECIFY THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
WILL THERE BE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AMONG NO, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
I'LL, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
C ONE CD ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY WITH DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING.
AND THE SECOND WAS FROM COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? NONE ON MY RIGHT.
UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED TO C ONE CD WITH THE USES FOR AUTO REPAIR WITH THE CONDITIONS AS STATED ON THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER REYES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ORTIZ.
I BELIEVE THE FINAL ITEM ON OUR, UH, YOU WILL NOW HEAD TO CITY COUNCIL.
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ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.UH, ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? ANY CORRECTIONS? SEEING NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT HAS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.
UH, WE WILL DO THIS BY ACCLIMATION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS SUBMITTED.
DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO, SIR.
GIVEN THAT THERE'S NO DIRECTOR'S REPORT, THE TIME IS 2 37 AND THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED.