* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT. GOOD AFTERNOON. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. MY NAME IS JOHN BUSANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. THE TIME IS ONE O'CLOCK AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION IN THE SESSION. ALRIGHT, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MARCO BARROS. UH, DISTRICT NINE, ROB SIPES, DISTRICT SEVEN. ROLAND GONZALEZ, DISTRICT EIGHT. DANIEL KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WHITSETT, DISTRICT 10 TAYLOR WATS, DISTRICT TWO. JANELLE CHASE MAYOR'S OFFICE. GEORGE OSA. DISTRICT THREE NUI DISTRICT SIX. ALRIGHT, STAFF IS THE QUORUM PRESENT? YES, THE QUORUM IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALL I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDI WITH LITERACY AND JUSTICE AND JUSTICE FOR. ALRIGHT, PRIOR TO BEGINNING OUR HEARING, UH, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON A RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL E WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND MUST ANNOUNCE WHEN THAT SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM THAT THEY ARE YIELDING THEIR TIME. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET INTO THE ITEMS, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW NEWEST COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT EIGHT. UH, ROLAND GONZALEZ. WELCOME SIR AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING OUR COMMISSION. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. ALRIGHT, [Zoning Items  ] UH, CA UH, STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY POSTPONED, WITHDRAWN, OR PULLED ITEMS? WE DO NOT. OKAY. IF YOU WOULD, CAN YOU PLEASE GO OVER THE COMBINED HEARING ITEMS AT THIS TIME? ITEMS ON THE COMBINED HEARING ARE ITEMS 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, AND 11. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION FROM THE COMBINED HEARING CONSENT AGENDA? LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING TO MY LEFT. SEEING NONE. VERY WELL STAFFED. IF WE COULD READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO MHC WITH OLIVER LA TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 53 0 7 SHERRY STREET. 25 NOTICES WERE SENT. FIVE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 R TO MF 18 WITH ALL OF LA TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1460 SOUTH ELLISON DRIVE. 26 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT [00:05:01] IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 TO C3 CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR SCHOOL VOCATIONAL TRADE OUTSIDE STORAGE AND TRAIN TRAINING AREA PERMITTED WITH ALL OF LIGHTS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 57 76 STEMMONS DRIVE. 24 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED THUNDERBIRD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. LOCATED AT 24 23 SOUTHEAST LOOP. FOUR. 10 17 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 NA TO MF 18 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 6,000 BLOCK OF SOUTHWEST LOOP. FOUR. 10 21 NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIPT IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO R 20 S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR HUD CODE MANUFACTURED HOME LOCATED AT 48 43 SOUTH 1604 EAST SIX NOTICES WERE SENT. ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE ITEMS AND I WAS ALL READY TO ASK IF THERE WAS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ONCE. ALRIGHT. VERY WELL. UH, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION ON PROVIDED. AGENDA NUMBER ONE MR. CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS. 5 6 8, 9, 10 AND 11. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 5 6, 8, 9, 10 AND 11 BY COMMISSIONER WATSON AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING TO MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. LOOKING TO MY LEFT. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS. COMMISSIONER KELLUM. HE STEPPED OUT AT 1:02 PM THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WIT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. ITEMS PASS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU WERE PRESENT FOR ANY OF THE PREVIOUS ITEMS, PLEASE GO ABOUT YOUR DAY. HAVE A GOOD ONE. UH, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND GOOD LUCK. ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT AGENDA IS THE CONTINUANCE HEARING FOR APRIL 15TH, 2025. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 15TH. IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE. ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO THE APRIL 15TH HEARING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. UH, THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE. ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO THE APRIL 15TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER WATSON WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING TO MY LEFT. SEEING NONE. LOOKING TO MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER OSA? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER TSET? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. VO. MS. LEE, WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, AT THIS TIME WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING DOCKET AND I BELIEVE THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER ONE. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. BROUGHT TO YOU FOR A ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS LOCATED AT 2 3 2 9 3 WEST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 GOING FROM C3 S WITH A SPECIFIC USE FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM IN C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR, INCLUDING MOTORIZED VEHICLES SUCH AS MOTORCYCLES AND ON TERRAIN VEHICLES, ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. THERE WERE NINE NOTICES SENT ZERO IN FAVOR AT ONE OPPOSED AND OUTSIDE HUNDRED FEET. THERE WERE ZERO IN FAVOR AND SIX OPPOSED. [00:10:01] AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THEIR PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THEIR PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR, INCLUDING MOTORIZED VEHICLES SUCH AS MOTORCYCLES AND TERRAIN VEHICLES IS ALSO APPROPRIATE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROPRIATELY LOCATED NEXT TO EXISTING COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AND ACCESS TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OFTEN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY. THE REQUESTED ZONING WOULD PRESERVE THE PROPERTY C TWO BAY ZONING DISTRICT AND THE CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS FOR THE ADDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR, INCLUDING MOTORIZED VEHICLES SUCH AS MOTORCYCLES AND ALTERING VEHICLES. THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIRES A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED WITHOUT FURTHER ZONING. YOUR REVIEW STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THEIR ACREAGE TO 2.35 ACRES AND AMEND THE REQUEST TO C TWO CD IN ADDING THE NA. AND I THINK I MISSPOKE ON THE PREVIOUS ZONING. IT'S JUST C TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, BEFORE WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THEIR CASE, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER KELLUM RETURNED AT 1 0 8. SO IF THE APPLICANT ON ITEM NUMBER ONE WOULD PLEASE COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT. UH, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. UM, AARON SANDWELL WITH WGI, WE ARE THE CIVIL ENGINEERS REPRESENTING, UM, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND I'M GONNA HOLD OFF AND TELL OUR, OKAY, THERE IT GOES. OKAY. AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. OH, SORRY. UM, OH GOSH. UH, WHAT IS OUR ADDRESS? SORRY, WE JUST MOVED RECENTLY. , UH, THE RED MCCOMBS BUILDING, UM, BY THE ZOO. 7 5 5 EAST MULBERRY. MULBERRY. YES. YES. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AND YOU CAN USE THE OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. THE KEYBOARD. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, SO YES, THIS IS OUR STANDARD INFORMATION, OUR ZONING CASE NUMBER ALONG WITH THE ADDRESS AND WE ARE WITHIN DISTRICT EIGHT. UH, SO AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WE ARE ASKING FOR AN AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL FLYER SENT OUT TO SURROUNDING RESIDENTS CAPTURED OUR ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY. RIGHT NOW, UM, AS CIVILS WITH CLIENT, WE ARE REPL THIS PROPERTY AS ONE CONTINUOUS LOT TO TWO INDIVIDUAL LOTS. THE ONLY AREA THAT'S BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE IS THAT LOWER, UH, 2.3 UH, ACRES. AND AS WELL WITH THE AMENDMENT OF MAKING SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, I THINK THE APPLICATION ON BILL ESSAY CAPTURED THE RIGHT ACREAGE. I JUST DON'T THINK THE VISUALIZATION CAME OUT RIGHT. WE ARE ASKING TO ADD THE NO ALCOHOL AS WELL. SO THE NA SO IN EXISTING CONDITIONS WE ARE C TWO WITH, UM, THE GATEWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY AND THE URBAN CORRIDOR OVERLAY. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE MAINTAINED WITH OUR PROPOSED, UH, ZONING. AND WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SHED SOME LIGHT. ONE, YOU SEE THE VISUAL OF OUR OVERALL TRACT WITH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM, I DON'T KNOW. OH, THERE IT GOES. UH, WITH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO RE REZONED THE CORRIDORS DO NOT SPECIFY SPECIFIC LAND USES. THEY'RE MORE SO FOR THE LANDSCAPING FENCING MATERIALS, SETBACKS AND SUCH LIKE THAT ALONG WITH THE URBAN CORRIDOR HAS RESTRICTIONS ON SIGN HEIGHTS IN EXISTING CONDITIONS. WITH THAT C TWO, UM, BECAUSE WGI HAS REACHED OUT TO THESE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS TRYING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, JUST TO KIND OF BRING, UM, SOME KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS PERMITTED WITHIN C TWO RIGHT NOW IS A FEW AUTO, UM, LAND USES ALONG WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE THAT HAS GASOLINE, THAT IS ALL PERMITTED RIGHT NOW WITH THE STANDALONE C TWO. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE, UM, IS FIVE SPECIFIC USES THAT ARE AUTO USES, SPECIFICALLY PERMITTED WITHIN C3. UM, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY SORT OF MENTION TIED TO C3 TO THE SITE, JUST THAT THESE SPECIFIC USES ARE PERMITTED WITHIN C3. UM, THOSE FIVE USES ARE AS MENTIONED, THE AUTO TRUCK LIGHT REPAIR, UH, INCLUDES MOTORIZED VEHICLES AND MOTORCYCLES AND ALL, ALL TERRAINS. THOSE ARE GONNA BE MORE OF YOUR A TV, KIND OF YOUR BIG BOY, UH, GADGETS AND TOYS AS LONG WITH AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR. UM, AUTO GLASS SALES AND INSTALLATION, INSTALLATION OF AUTO MUFFLERS AND THE UPHOLSTERY SALES AND INSTALLATION. UH, REALLY GOING INTO AN EXAMPLE TO KIND OF SEE IT IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS THE HIGH END OF AUTO REPAIRS. SO THINK OF YOUR LAMBORGHINIS, YOUR FERRARI'S, YOUR BIG F1 FIFTIES, YOUR FOUR WHEELERS OR, UH, TERRAIN CARS GETTING [00:15:01] LIFTED, GETTING THOSE LIGHTS ADDED. IT'S UM, GONNA BE THE AESTHETICS OF THE AUTO, UH, REPAIRS. THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS OF WHAT HE IS LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. UM, THERE IS A HOLD ON THE ARCHITECT UNTIL WE KIND OF SEE WHAT THE ZONING IS. UM, BUT THIS IS A GOOD VISUAL OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT WITH THE SITE PLAN. THAT WILL COME IN A LATER SLIDE. HE IS CURRENTLY WORKING OUT OF A STANDALONE, UM, ONE UNIT OUT OF THE DOMINION MOTOR CLUB, UH, HAS ONE BAY AND HE'S DOING WHAT HE CAN IN THAT AND THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD HELP HIM KIND OF EXPAND THAT. HE DOES HAVE AN EXISTING, UH, BUSINESS OUT IN WEST TEXAS AND THESE ARE PHOTOS OF THAT. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS GONNA BE MORE OF THOSE, UM, NOT IN, UH, INDUSTRIAL KIND OF SHED BUILDING WORKING AREAS. UM, REALLY FURNISHED ON THE INSIDE HEIGHT JUST IN CASE, YOU KNOW, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME STACKING, UH, THERE IS GOING TO BE AC IN THESE, SO THOSE BAY WINDOWS THAT YOU SEE OR GARAGE DOORS WILL BE CLOSED DURING SUMMER 'CAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO WORK OUT IN THAT HEAT WORKING ON A CAR. UH, SO WITH THOSE VISUALS IT KIND OF HELPS SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS PROPOSED SITE PLAN. AGAIN, WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR THIS CONDITIONAL, UH, USE ZONE CHANGE ON THAT SOUTHERN HALF. HE IS PROPOSING THREE BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW. THIS SOUTHERN ONE IS WHAT HE IS GOING TO MAINTAIN AND OWN. HE WILL OWN THIS OWN LOT, BUT THESE TWO WILL MORE THAN LIKELY BE SUBLEASED BY SOMEONE ELSE. UM, THOSE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGES ARE THE 2 4500 AND HIS IS GOING TO BE THAT 9,300. UH, WE ARE OVER EDWARDS AQUIFER ZONE, SO WE DO HAVE TO HAVE WATER QUALITY AND WE ARE DETAINING ON SITE. WE ARE PROVIDING ON STREET PARKING. AS YOU CAN TELL, IT IS HIDDEN AWAY FROM THE, UH, FRONTAGE ROAD AND ALONG NEIGHBORS. UM, WE TURNED ON THE TREES TO SHOW THIS SITE IN THE CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION IS PRETTY HEFTY. SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AS CIVILS IS KEEP OUR LIMITS OF CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION AS CONSTRAINED AS POSSIBLE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MASK CLEAR THIS SITE. WE CAN PRESERVE THESE TREES TO MAINTAIN THAT NATURAL BUFFER. UM, WE ARE ADEQUATE WITH THESE SIDE SETBACKS FOR OUR R SIX AND RC TWO, UH, NEIGHBORS. UM, AND THEN WITH TYPICAL C TWO ZONING, YOU CAN GET TO LIKE 95, 97 INCENT, 97% IMPERVIOUS COVER. RIGHT NOW WITH THIS SITE PLAN, WE'RE BARELY HITTING 80. UM, SO WE'RE HITTING AROUND THAT 78 MARKER FOR IMPERVIOUS COVER. AND I THINK THAT IS IT. I CAN LEAVE IT ON THIS SITE PLAN FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. BEFORE WE GET TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, YOU ARE FORMALLY REQUESTING TO AMEND YOUR REQUEST TO ONLY THE 2.35 ACRES INDICATED CORRECT. AND FOR AN NA DESIGNATION AS WELL? YES, SIR. OKAY, THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE. UH, WE HAVE NO VOICEMAILS, BUT WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP. FIRST WE HAVE MR. ROB MCDANIEL AND HE IS TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. NORM MUELLER. SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. AND AGAIN, IF ANYONE IS UH, CONTRIBUTING THEIR TIME TO ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE DO SO BEFORE THE PERSON SPEAKS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN. UH, MY NAME'S ROB MCDANIEL. ADDRESS IS THE DOMINION HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS 20 DOMINION DRIVE. I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER REPRESENTING THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE DOMINION HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHO VOTED AT THE MARCH BOARD MEETING TO OPPOSE THIS REQUEST, UM, BASED PRIMARILY ON INCONSISTENCY AND DISHARMONY WITH EXISTING, UH, BUILT BUSINESSES ALONG THAT ACCESS ROAD. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MR. NORM MUELLER. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS NORM MUELLER. I LIVE AT 70 73 10 STEEPLE DRIVE, ABOUT 800 FEET AWAY FROM THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I OPPOSE THIS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR A COUPLE REASONS. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, I, I OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR A COUPLE REASONS. UM, MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE HIGH PERFORMANCE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO. AND, AND YOU SAW THAT ON THE SIGN THAT THEY HAVE IT. 10 CORRIDOR HAS BECOME A, A SPEEDWAY FOR RACERS, UM, COME ANY ANY WEEKEND AND, AND MOST, AND A LOT OF EVENINGS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10 AND AND ONE O'CLOCK. THERE'S RACERS ON THAT FREEWAY CONTINUOUSLY. MY WIFE AND I HAVE CALLED SAPD 3 1 1 MANNY PS UM, BASICALLY ALL ALL TO NO AVAIL BECAUSE THEY, WE WERE TOLD THAT UNLESS THE POLICE CAN CATCH THEM IN THE ACT, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BY ALLOWING THIS HIGH PERFORMANCE RE REPAIR FIST ONLY, YOU'RE BASICALLY PUTTING THE, THE FOX [00:20:01] IN THE HEN HOUSE. I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ENABLING THE RACERS AND MAKING IT WHERE SOMEONE'S GONNA GET KILLED THERE BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENS. AND, AND I THAT JUST ISN'T RIGHT. BY CHANGING THE ZONING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY TAKING A TWO THREE, A TWO C TWO ZONING, CHANGING IT TO A C3 BY DOING IT IN, IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY. THIS ISN'T RIGHT. THERE'S A REASON IT WAS ZONED C TWO. IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD REMAIN C TWO. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. MUELLER. NEXT, NEXT WE HAVE MR. ROBERTO STEIN, BUT I BELIEVE YOU'RE GIVING YOUR TIME TO JACQUES BENATAR. SO MR. YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JACQUES BENETTON. I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER OWNERS AND TENANTS OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORING DOMINION PLACE OFFICE PARK. MR. BENETTON, WOULD YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? WE ARE LOCATED AT 2 3 1 1 9 AND 2 3 1 0 3 WEST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10. THESE FOLKS MAKE UP OVER 22 OWNERS AND TENANTS. THESE PROPERTY OWNERS OPPOSED THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 3 2 9 3 WEST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10. DOMINION PLACE. OFFICE PARK IS FOR HIGH-END OFFICE USAGE AND THE PROPOSED CHANGE ALLOWING FOR LIGHTS, ORDER, AND TRUCK REPAIRS AS WELL AS HIGH PERFORMANCE VEHICLES IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE ATTENDANT CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS TYPE OF USE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING ZONING AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. UH, DOMINION PLACE OFFICE PARK HAS BEEN CAREFULLY PLANNED FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SPACES, WHICH ATTRACTS BUSINESSES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE LONG TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. EXAMPLES OF ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES INCLUDE DOCTORS, LAWYERS, ARCHITECTS, AND OTHER SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ALLOWING THE AUTO REPAIR AND HIGH PERFORMANCE VEHICLE SERVICE CENTER. NEXT, NEXT DOOR THREATENS TO DISRUPT THIS BALANCE, INTRODUCING NOISE FUMES AND INCREASED INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY THAT IS NOT SUITABLE FOR A HIGH END OFFICE ENVIRONMENT. ADDITIONALLY, THIS CHANGE WOULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES. BUSINESSES INVESTING IN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SPACE EXPECT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF QUALITY AND SURROUNDINGS CONDUCIVE TO PRODUCTIVE UPSCALE WORK ENVIRONMENT. THE PRESENCE OF AN ORDER REPAIR FACILITY OR DEFER A FUTURE TENANTS AND PROPERTY BARS ULTIMATELY DIMINISHING THE VALUE OF OUR LAND AND INVESTMENTS. TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ARE ALSO MAJOR CONCERNS. HIGH PERFORMANCE VEHICLES OFTEN INVOLVE TEST DRIVING AND TUNING, WHICH CAN LEAD TO INCREASED NOISE, POLLUTION, AND POTENTIAL SAFETY HAZARDS. THESE ADDED TRAFFIC FROM TRUCKS AND ORDER REPAIRS COULD ALSO CREATE CONGESTION AND ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES FOR EXISTING OFFICE TENANTS AND VISITORS. THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD SET A PRECEDENT THAT COULD FURTHER DEGRADE THE INTEGRITY OF THE AREA. IF APPROVED, IT WOULD OPEN THE DOOR FOR ADDITIONAL INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES THAT CONFLICT WITH THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE ZONING PLAN. WE HOPE THE ZONING BOARD UPHOLDS THE VISION AND FRAMEWORK ESTABLISHED FOR THE COMMUNITY, ENSURING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT REMAINS CONSISTENT AND BENEFICIAL FOR ALL PROPERTY OWNERS. FOR THIS REASON, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE ZONING BOARD TO REJECT THIS USAGE PERMIT AND UPHOLD THE EXISTING ZONING DESIGNATION THAT PROTECTS THE CHARACTER VALUE AND FUTURE OF OUR, OF OUR HIGH-END OFFICE DISTRICT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU MR. BENTO. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. MS. SANDOVAL, A BRIEF REBUTTAL. CAN WE SHOW THAT? YES, PLEASE. SORRY, THERE'S JUST GOOD VISUALS ON THAT ONE. IS THIS OKAY? UM, SO, OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . UH, TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT IS CURRENTLY OUT THERE AND UPHOLDING WHAT YOU KNOW, THE CHARACTER OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM, THERE IS AN EXISTING C3 AND AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IN THE FIRST PART, THERE WILL BE NO TIES TO C3 IN THIS APPROVED ZONING, UM, AMENDMENT ONCE IT'S PLOTTED BY THE CITY AND RECORDED. UM, WHAT WILL BE SHOWN ON THAT APPROVED ZONING IS GOING TO BE THIS LITTLE NARRATIVE RIGHT DOWN HERE WHERE IT'S ONLY C TWO AND CD. UM, WE PREVIOUSLY WORKED WITH OUR CASE MANAGER AND WHAT WE ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED OVER TO THE ZONING, WE WORD VERBATIM THESE FIVE USES. SO THERE WAS NO SORT OF LOOPHOLE OR STRETCH. IT WAS VERY CLEAR OF, HEY, EVERYTHING IS STAYING C TWO AS [00:25:01] IS EXCEPT FOR THESE FIVE USES. UM, KIND OF GOING BACK INTO THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE IS AN EXISTING C3 DOWN HERE AND THAT IS THE TESLA DEALERSHIP. SO THERE IS ALREADY SOME SORT OF AUTO USES IN THIS SURROUNDING AREA. AND AS WELL AS IF YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN THIS RENDERING RIGHT HERE, UM, PARTS OF THIS BUILDING, YES YOU HAVE THOSE BAYS FOR AUTO USES, BUT THERE IS AN OFFICE PROPOSED IN HERE. AND AS OUR SITE PLAN SHOWS, HE IS ANTICIPATING TO HAVE THIS AS BAY AND OFFICE. THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE ANOTHER BAY, UH, AUTO USE, UM, BUILDING. BUT THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE IS NOT PROPOSED AUTO. UM, AS THERE IS NO PULL THROUGH, THERE'S NO BAY PROPOSED THAT WOULD BE OFFICE AND STICK TO THAT STANDARD C TWO DEVELOPMENT. UM, AS FAR AS SMALL BUSINESSES, OUR CLIENT HIMSELF IS MAINTAINING HIS OWN SMALL BUSINESS OUT IN, UH, WEST TEXAS. UM, WE AREN'T PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, A TARGET OR ANYTHING OVER HERE. IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY LOCAL. UM, AND I TO, I REALLY HEAR THE WHOLE NOISE AND SPEED ON I 10. UM, UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS TXDOT AND WE HAVE GONE EXTENSIVELY WITH TXDOT IN THIS PLATTING PROCESS, UH, TO LOCK IN THIS DRIVEWAY. AS STAFF SHOWED IN THEIR PRESENTATION, THERE IS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY OUT THERE. UM, AND THAT WILL MAINTAIN AS IS. THERE'S NO MOVEMENT. AND THESE TWO LOTS THAT ARE BEING PLATTED, WE'LL TAKE SOLE ACCESS FROM THIS DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS A GOOD DISTANCE FROM THAT EXISTING, UH, C TWO DRIVEWAY DOWN SOUTH. UM, WITH TXDOT AS WELL. WE ARE REQUIRED TO EXTEND THIS CONCRETE MEDIAN TO AVOID ANY SORT OF TRAFFIC FROM OUR SITE TO GET ON THAT ON RAMP ILLEGALLY. UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S MY REBUTTAL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. . ALRIGHT. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. MS. SANDOVAL, I I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. , THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS, THIS AFTERNOON. I KNOW WE HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND I SAW THIS PRESENTATION THAT WAS VERY WELL DONE AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YOU WERE HERE TODAY AND YOU HEARD THE OPPOSITION. YES. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAD A ZOOM MEETING MM-HMM . OR AS YOU CALLED IT, A TOWN HALL MM-HMM . UH, TODAY WE HEARD FROM THE THREE FOLKS, UH, AND I HAVE SOME WRITTEN OPPOSITION AS WELL AS FAR AS YOU KNOW. UH, DID DID THE FULL COMPLIMENT OF THE OPPOSITION ATTEND THE ZOOM MEETING? UH, SO FOR THE SPEAKERS THAT CAME HERE, TWO OF THE THREE WERE ON OUR TOWN HALL, UM, AND VOICED THE SAME CONCERNS. AND THEN, UH, THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL, WHO'S NOT HERE TODAY WAS ON THE TOWN HALL. HE WAS THE PLASTIC SURGEON, FACIAL SURGEON OR SOMEONE. UM, BUT HE ATTENDED THE TOWN HALL THAT OZZIE, UH, PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER ALSO ATTENDED. SO I, I'LL READ FOR YOU A COUPLE OF THE NAMES FROM THE WRITTEN OPPOSITION THAT I HAVE HERE BEFORE ME. MM-HMM . UH, DR. KENNETH YU. DO YOU KNOW IF HE ATTENDED? THAT'S, I'M PRETTY SURE HE WAS THE ONE, YES. OKAY. OSCAR E FLORES DESIGN STUDIO ALSO SENT IN A WRITTEN OPPOSITION. OPPOSITION. DID. WAS HE ABLE TO ATTEND? UH, NO. MR. ART VERDICT, UH, SENT IN A WRITTEN OPPOSITION. WAS HE ABLE TO ATTEND? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. OKAY. JOHN WINDOL SENT IN A WRITTEN OPPOSITION. WAS HE ABLE TO ATTEND? NO. AND, AND WE, SORRY TO INTERRUPT. THERE'S ONE MORE THAT I HAVE HERE. I HAVE RASHEED ANTIQUE MD. WAS HE ABLE TO ATTEND? I DON'T THINK SO, NO. OKAY. OUTSIDE OF THAT ZOOM MEETING, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CHANCE TO REACH OUT TO THESE FOLKS WHO OPPOSE THIS REZONING? YEAH, SO I ORIGINALLY REACHED OUT TO JACQUES. UM, WAY BEFORE THAT THIS, UH, INITIAL CITY MAILER WAS SENT OUT JUST BECAUSE THEY SAW THIS SIGNS OUT THERE AND HE WAS LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON? UM, WE REACHED, I TOUCHED BASE WITH HIM. I SENT HIM OUR SITE PLAN. WE JUMPED ON AN INDIVIDUAL TEAMS CALL TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING. UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THE SITE PLANS THAT ARE SENT OUT ALWAYS DON'T GIVE AS MUCH DETAIL AND I KNOW THERE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT OF A ALARM BELL SENT OUT. SO I PREVIOUSLY TOUCHED BASE WITH JACQUES AND THEN WHEN WE GOT OUR FIRST, UH, OPPOSITION, IT WAS ROBERTO. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY HAD, UM, CONNECTIONS WITH ONE ANOTHER. SO I TRIED REACHING OUT TO ROBERTO. UH, VERY SHORT CONVERSATION. HE JUST SAID HE WAS IN OPPOSITION FOR IT. OFFERED THE SAME THING I OFFERED TO JACQUES WHERE WE CAN JUMP ON A CALL. UM, HE WASN'T IN FAVOR OF THAT, SO WE JUST KIND OF LEFT IT AS IS. UM, KEPT SPEAKING WITH JACQUES OF SENDING THE SITE PLAN. UH, HE STILL SAID HE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE MAILER. UH, I THINK HE'S MAYBE OUTSIDE OF THAT INITIAL NOTIFICATION. SO ONCE STAFF SENT US THE NOTIFICATION, I FORWARDED OVER TO HIM SO HE COULD HAVE WHAT HE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED FROM CITY STAFF. OKAY. AND SO WE AND WHEN YOU SAY JACQUE, THAT'S MR. BETAR, WE HEARD FROM MR. BEN BETAR TODAY. SO AS FAR AS WE KNOW THAT UH, ZOOM MEETING DID NOT [00:30:01] MITIGATE THAT OPPOSITION? NO, I GUESS NOT. OKAY. UH, AS FAR AS THE OTHER FOLKS THAT I MENTIONED, DR. YU, DR. ANTIQUE, JOHN WINDOL, OSCAR E FLORES, UH, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, HAS ANY OF THAT OPPOSITION BEEN MITIGATED? SO ON THE ZOOM CALL, UM, THE OPPOSITION AND THE ISSUES OF WHAT AROSE FOR THEIR, UM, CONCERNS WAS THE NOISE LEVEL. UM, AND WE DID TELL THEM ON THE ZOOM CALL THAT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY TESTING. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE THE AS AESTHETICS OF THE CAR. SO LIGHTS, LIFTS, UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE HONKING THEIR HORN. IT IS GONNA BE STANDARD BUSINESS HOURS. IT'S NOT GONNA BE WORKING ON AT LIKE 6, 7, 8 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. UM, THEY'RE NOT ANTICIPATING TO REV THEIR CARS OR ANYTHING TO CHECK. IT'S MORE SO BRING YOUR CAR IN, GET IT FIXED UP, BE ON YOUR MERRY WAY. UM, ANOTHER OPPOSITION WAS THE CONCERN OF VISUALIZATION OF THESE PROPOSED BUILDINGS. AND WE HEAR THAT CONCERN. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS SITE JUST NATURALLY SITS ON A HIGHER GRADE THAN THAT SOUTHERN NEIGHBOR. UM, I'M GONNA DO THIS ONE MORE. UM, AND AS WE CAN, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WITH THIS AERIAL, THERE ARE TREES THERE IN EXISTING AND AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WE'RE TRYING TO TOUCH AS MINIMAL DIRT AS POSSIBLE 'CAUSE DIRT IS EXPENSIVE. UM, AND SO THESE TREES THAT YOU SEE OVER HERE THAT MAYBE DON'T HAVE OUR SYMBOL JUST AREN'T CALLED OUT AS SIGNIFICANT OR, UM, PRESERVED WITHIN CITY CODE, BUT THEY'RE STILL PROPOSING TO BE MAINTAINED. SO THERE'S GONNA BE A GOOD NATURAL BUFFER BETWEEN OUR BUILDING AND THE SOUTHERN NEIGHBORS. EVEN IF WE DO SIT HIGHER. UM, C TWO DOES ALLOW FOR A TWO STORY BUILDING. AND AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, THOSE PROBABLY HIT THAT TWO STORY. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY SORT OF CUSTOMER OR SOMEONE LOOKING OUT THESE WINDOWS. IT'S JUST FOR THAT NATURAL LIGHT AND TO PROVIDE THAT WORKABILITY ROOM THERE. UM, SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO EXCEED ANY SORT OF, UH, MAXIMUM HEIGHT OR SOMETHING. IT'S JUST MORE SO FOR WORKABILITY. SO THE APPLICA OR THE NEIGHBORS DOWN SOUTH MAY BE ABLE TO SEE OUR BUILDING. UM, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE DISRUPTED BY TREE COVERAGE. UH, SO I KNOW THE SITE AND NOISE WERE A CONCERN THAT WAS VOICED. AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE AIR CONDITIONED SO THE BAY WIND OR THE BAY DOORS ARE GOING TO BE CLOSED. THEY DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY REVVING. UM, AND AS FAR AS THE NOISE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THESE CARS ARE GOING TO ADD ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT, ANYTHING SIGNIFICANTLY THAN WHAT THE NOISE ON I 10 ALREADY HAS WITH TRAFFIC AMBULANCES AND 5:00 PM RUSH HOUR. IS IT OKAY IF I SPEAK? WOULD YOU GUYS MIND IF OUR CLIENT SAYS A FEW WORDS? I I HAVE JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. YEP. AND, UH, IT WOULD BE, THAT'S FINE BY ME IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR. UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT INFORMATION WAS PRO PROVIDED TO THE FOLKS WHO ATTENDED THE ZOOM CALL, CORRECT? CORRECT. YES. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WERE FOLKS IN OPPOSITION WHO YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN WITH INDIVIDUALLY, DR. Y DR. ANTIQUE. UH, IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? UH, DIRECTLY, YES. THERE WAS NO, UM, ANSWER FROM THEM, NO. OKAY. UM, MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR CITY STAFF. UH, IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADD ANY SORT OF RESTRICTED USE FOR THE SITE PLAN REGARDING HOURS OR THAT MIGHT HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THIS OPPOSITION? THAT IS CORRECT. UM, WITH A CONDITIONAL USE YOU CAN ADD ITEMS LIKE BUSINESS HOURS, UH, LANDSCAPING, FENCING, THOSE KIND OF ITEMS. AND MS. SANDOVAL, I'M NOT GONNA ASK YOU TO DELVE IN THE MINDS OF YOUR OPPOSITION. I'LL ASK THEM AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. BUT, UH, LET, LEMME ASK YOU THIS GENERALLY AND I'LL I'LL ASK IT OF THEM AS WELL. WOULD ADDITIONAL TIME HELP YOU TO REACH OUT TO THESE FOLKS? SO I JUST MENTIONED MR. WINDOL, DR. YU, DR. ANTIQUE. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, SO I HAD SENT, UH, MR. BENATAR THE ZOOM INVITE AND HE WAS GOING TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO ALL NEIGHBORS. 'CAUSE WE TRIED CALLING THE NEIGHBORS, THERE WAS NO ANSWER. UM, WE ORIGINALLY SENT OUT THAT ZOOM INVITE. IF THE NEIGHBORS ARE OPEN TO HAVING ANOTHER ONE, UM, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HOST IT. BUT IN OUR PREVIOUS ZOOM CALL, YOU KNOW, WE ASKED ALL THESE QUESTIONS OR WE GAVE THIS PRESENTATION, WE ACCEPTED ALL QUESTIONS. UH, WE ANSWERED THEM SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING HERE TODAY. AND IT STILL DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY ARE ON BOARD. UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE WE CAN, WHAT MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WOULD SWAY THEIR OPPOSITION TO BE IN FAVOR. AND I'LL ASK THIS THEM, BUT, BUT, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT THEY'RE MADE ABLE TO AN IN-PERSON MEETING MM-HMM . TO DISCUSS THIS OPPOSITION AND PERHAPS COMING TO SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION MM-HMM . IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU AND YOUR CLIENT ARE AMENABLE TO DOING? OH, OF COURSE. YEAH. WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT MEETING. OKAY. CHAIR, I THINK THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, UH, HER CLIENT CAN SAY A FEW WORDS. I'LL HAND [00:35:01] IT TO YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, IT'S UP TO YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK HIM A QUESTION, PLEASE DO. YEAH, PLEASE CALL HIM UP. AND, AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME OTHERWISE. , HI, MY NAME IS, IS MANNY. UH, TARIN, I LIVE AT 2 2 8 8 5, UH, TEL VISTA, WHICH IS, UH, RIGHT BEHIND THIS. AND, UH, THESE GUYS ARE NEVER GONNA LIKE ME AND I'VE PUT UP WITH THIS MY WHOLE LIFE. YOU KNOW, I'M NEVER GONNA MAKE THESE GUYS HAPPY. UM, I ACTUALLY BOUGHT THIS PLACE SO I CAN HAVE A, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF FREEDOM. I WENT OVER MY, MY BUDGET. I FIGURED IT'S ON I 10. I, I CAN DO, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE, BUT IF IT'S NOT THE CASE, THEN THERE'S A PLAN B. YOU KNOW, UM, I, THIS IS, UH, GONNA BE A VERY HIGH CLASS, UH, BUILD, UH, FOR, FOR ME IT'S GONNA BE NICER THAN THE NEXT DOOR. UM, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THIS MIGHT BE AN EYESORE, BUT, BUT THERE IS, UH, THE, UM, ANTHEM SCHOOL AND EVERYTHING THAT'S AN OLD STRIP. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY A SUN AUTO THAT'S DOWN THE STREET, THAT'S OLD, YOU KNOW. SO IF ANYTHING, I'M ADDING HIGHER CLASS INTO THE AREA. AND, UH, IF, IF I'M NOT, UH, UH, ALLOWED MY, MY, UH, AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, WHICH I WAS BEING LIKE, NICE, I WANNA DO LIKE NICE THINGS. I'M ALREADY A C TWO, I CAN BLOCK ALL THEIR YOU, I'LL GO 25 FOOT, YOU KNOW, I'LL MAKE AN UGLY BUILDING AND I'LL PUT IT UP FOR SALE AND I'LL GET A NEW SPOT IF THAT'S THE WAY THEY WANNA PLAY IT. AND I HOPE Y'ALL HEARD 'EM. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, SIR. LET ASK YOU THIS, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS AND I UNDER, I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR FRUSTRATION HERE TODAY. BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO FACILITATE AN IN-PERSON MEETING, I KNOW THERE WAS A ZOOM MEETING, BUT SOMETIMES, UH, THERE'S A WAY TO MITIGATE OPPOSITION WITH AN IN-PERSON MEETING. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE AMENABLE TO? I AM. AND LIKE, UH, MY PROJECT IS GONNA DO LIKE NOTHING BUT HELP THE CITY. YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE WORTH ABOUT, UH, $10 MILLION, YOU KNOW, THE TAX REVENUE THAT I ALREADY PAY ON, JUST THE LAND IS HIGH. ONCE I PUT THE BUILDINGS, IT'S GONNA BE EVEN HIGHER. SO I DON'T SEE LIKE ALL THE, THE, THE FIGHTING, I JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY ON I 10, IT'S ALREADY LOUD, YOU KNOW, I LIVE EVEN FURTHER FROM THAT AND I CAN HEAR NOISE AND THERE'S PLANES, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF NOISE. SO, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW SOMEBODY ELSE'S, YOU KNOW, CAN LIKE LIMIT YOUR LIBERTIES. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, AND I I WILL ASK THIS, UH, IF IT HELPS MITIGATE SOME OF THE OPPOSITION REGARDING THE RESTRICTED, UH, USE FOR THE SITE PLAN, UH, REGARDING RESTRICTED HOURS, THAT SORT OF THING. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE AMENABLE TO? IF, IF WE'RE ABLE TO FAC FACILITATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AN IN-PERSON MEETING, UM, HOURS? NO. UM, I MEAN I IT'S ALREADY C TWO AND, AND I MEAN LIKE WHAT ARE THE HOURS ON, ON REGULAR C TWO? OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE WERE NOT AMENABLE TO, I'M SORRY, I WASN'T SPEAKING INTO MY, SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, YOU WERE NOT AMENABLE TO RESTRICTED HOURS IN SOME SORT OF RESTRICTION IN THE SITE PLAN FOR HOURS? NO, I MEAN, LIKE, MY PLANS ARE NINE TO SIX, YOU KNOW, OCCASIONALLY I GO OVER, BUT I DON'T WANT KAREN'S OH, YOU'RE, IT'S 6 0 5. YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T WANNA PUT UP WITH THAT CRAP. I'D RATHER JUST, I'LL CHANGE THE WHOLE PLAN AND THAT'S FINE. IF, IF, IF THEY DON'T WANNA PLAY IT NICE, THEN I'LL DO IT ANOTHER WAY. THANK YOU, SIR. MR. BENATAR, CAN I ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS PLEASE? SURE. COME ON IT. SURE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE HERE, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE DOMINION H DOMINION PLACE, HOA, WHICH IS THE 22, UH, OFFICES. YES, SIR. I'M HERE REPRESENTING ROBERTO STEIN AND THE DOMINION H UM, THE DOMINION PLACE, UH, ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORING PROP, THE SOUTH NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. OKAY. AND SO THE NAMES I JUST READ OFF DR. U, DR. ANTIQUE? YES, SIR. UH, JOHN WINDOL. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE NAMES? I AM, YES SIR. AND SO IN ESSENCE, ARE ARE YOU SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF AS WELL? UM, YEAH, I, SO WHAT, WHAT HAD HAPPENED AFTER SPEAKING WITH AARON, UM, I TOOK THE LIBERTY TO, UH, SEND NOTICE TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, INFORMING THEM OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. UM, AS WELL AS I ADVISED THEM THAT IF THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF OPPOSING IT TO FILL THE FORM OUT ACCORDINGLY, I ALSO ADVISED THEM OF THE HEARING DATE THAT THEY COULD SHOW UP IN PERSON THAT IF THEY WISHED TO OPPOSE IT, THAT THEY COULD DO SO IN PERSON. AND ADDITIONALLY, THEY WERE ALL INVITED TO THE ZOOM MEETING THAT, UH, AARON HAD ORGANIZED. UM, AND UH, I THINK, I BELIEVE DR. YU WAS THE ONLY ONE, UM, OUT OF THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ATTENDED. UH, THE OTHER ONES THAT DID NOT [00:40:01] ATTEND EITHER SENT THEIR NOTICES ALREADY OR HAVE NOT RESPONDED. THANK YOU. YES, I HAVE I THINK SIX OR SEVEN WRITTEN, UH, OPPOSITION. AND THEN WE HEARD ONE ADDITIONAL OPPOSITION TODAY FROM THE DOMINION HOA, UH, I ASKED, I ASKED THE APPLICANT WHETHER THEY WOULD BE AMENABLE TO AN IN-PERSON MEETING TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THIS OPPOSITION. UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU AND THE CONTINGENCY THAT YOU REPRESENT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO AS WELL? AND LEMME ASK YOU THIS WAY, WOULD IT, ARE THERE ISSUES THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE THIS, UH, THIS APPLICATION DOWN THE ROAD? WOULD AN IN-PERSON MEETING, UH, FACILITATE SOME DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING? I DON'T SEE. I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. UM, AND AGAIN, LIKE THAT MEETING, UM, THAT AARON PRESENTED AND THAT THE OWNER WAS ON BOARD, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS NOTHING PERSONAL. I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY NICE PRESENTATION THEY DID. WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE DESIGN OR THE APPEARANCE. AGAIN, IT'S THE TYPE OF USAGE AND WHAT IT'S GONNA ATTRACT. THAT IS OF THE MAJOR CONCERN OF THE OWNERS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS TENANTS IN THAT AREA. BUT WE WOULD BE, UH, AGREEABLE TO ANOTHER EMPER MEETING IF THEY THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. AND THEN FINALLY, I ASKED THE APPLICANT ABOUT RESTRICTED, UH, HOURS. HE WAS NOT AMENABLE TO THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S OFF THE TABLE AS FAR AS HE'S CONCERNED, AS FAR AS THE OPPOSITION IS CONCERNED. WOULD THAT HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE OPPOSITION IF THERE WERE SOME SORT OF RESTRICTED USE IN THE SITE PLAN? UH, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT RIGHT NOW. I'D HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE OWNERS TO, TO GATHER THAT, UH, AND CLARIFY LOOK LIKE. UH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT YOU MEANT RESTRICTED HOURS NOT USE. 'CAUSE THIS CONDITIONAL USE IS ALLOWING THAT. AGREED. I MISSPOKE. OKAY, THANKS. I APPRECIATE THAT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, FURTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER BOTTLES, THE, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECT FROM THE OWNER, THE HOURS WILL BE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, NINE TO SIX. THAT'S MY REGULAR HOURS, YES. THAT'S A REGULAR BUSINESS HOUR. OKAY. COMMISSIONER SIPES, I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF AND PERHAPS THE APPLICANT. UM, AND IT THAT WAS, UH, THE APPLICANT. YOU, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THIS WAS IN THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT THIS HAS A EASY RD IS THIS, IT'S NOT IN THE RECHARGE ZONE, IT'S THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE. IT'S IN THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE, YES. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS EITHER ONE, IF Y'ALL COULD ASK, UM, WHAT IS THE, UM, I NOTICED THAT YOUR PRESENTATION MENTIONED THAT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER PERHAPS WOULD BE AROUND 78%. WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE, DOES ANYONE KNOW? I TRIED TO LOOK IN THE UDC REALLY QUICK AND I COULDN'T FIND IT. WHAT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT IS CURRENTLY AND WHETHER A CHANGE IN ZONING WOULD AFFECT IT. IN OTHER WORDS, WAS IT GRANDFATHERED AT A HIGHER IMPERVIOUS COVER VERSUS IMPERVIOUS COVER? UM, FOR COMMERCIAL USE IS 65% AND UH, IT'S CURRENTLY C TWO, SO THE ZONING IS STILL COMMERCIAL. OKAY. SO EVEN THOUGH YOU ADD THE CD, THAT DOESN'T TRIGGER A OKAY. IT'S STILL COMMERCIAL. GOTCHA. OKAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, THERE'S ONE OTHER QUESTION AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, SO I GUESS I WILL NOT ASK THAT. THANK YOU, . OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SNIPES, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? YES. COMMISSIONER HENO, HOSA. I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT REAL QUICK. UH, THE ENTRANCE THAT YOU HAVE OFF I 10, THAT'S THE CURRENT ENTRANCE, IT'S GONNA BE ONE WAY IN AND OUT, EVERYTHING THROUGH THERE? THAT IS CORRECT. A AFTER HOURS, UH, IS THAT GONNA BE CLOSED OFF, CHAINED UP OR IS IT GONNA BE OPEN? UM, WE'RE STILL GOING, WE HAVE KIND OF HALTED ON THAT SITE PLAN JUST BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING WHERE THE ZONING GOES RIGHT NOW. THERE IS THAT EXISTING GATE MM-HMM . AND JUST BECAUSE THE HEAT IS WORKING ON THOSE HIGH-END OR UH, HIGH-END VEHICLES, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT. SO THERE'S GONNA BE NOBODY COMING IN AND OUT DURING NON-BUSINESS HOURS. UM, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO SITE DISTANCE, TRIANGLE AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF BECAUSE IN EXISTING CONDITIONS, I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR, THERE IS A MASSIVE CHANNEL, UH, RIGHT HERE THAT WE'RE KIND OF DEALING WITH, UH, DESIGN CONSTRAINT WISE. AND THEN, UH, A GOOD QUESTION FOR ME, MYSELF, UM, WHO'S YOUR CLIENTELE? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M FROM THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO. MM-HMM . A K, THE HOOD . UH, AND WHEN PEOPLE THINK AUTOMOTIVE AREAS, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING JUMPING GROUND, RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, WITH THE PICTURES, WHAT I'VE SEEN [00:45:01] DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT. SO WHO IS YOUR CLIENTELE? SO I CAN ALSO LET HIM SPEAK, BUT, UM, KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, THOSE HIGHER END VEHICLES AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOMINION. I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ATVS THAT THEY TAKE OUT TO CORPUS CHRISTI AND OFF-ROADING AND EVERYTHING. SO THOSE ARE GONNA BE YOUR, UH, CLIENTS. GOTCHA. SO I, I CURRENTLY DRIVE A 1994 FORD EXPLORER. YEAH. WHICH YOU CAN SEE OUT THERE IN THE PARKING LOT. UH, IF I NEED A SERVICE, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING YOU WOULD GIVE ME SERVICE, BUT I'M PROBABLY NOT YOUR CLIENTELE, RIGHT? IT'S FOR THE HIGHER END, THE LIFTS, THE, THE TRUCKS THAT I, I'M IN THE, UH, SIR, SIR, SIR, CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM PLEASE? YES, SIR. UM, I'M IN THE, UH, GLOR GUINEA CLUB FERRARI CLUB, AND I'VE MET A BUNCH OF OWNERS AND THEY ALL HAVE LIKE THEIR CARS, TRUCKS, ATVS. I MEAN, I'M, I PLAN TO BE DOING LIKE A BUNCH OF, UH, RAPTORS, YOU KNOW, WHEELS, TIRES, LIFTS, LIGHTS, THAT KIND OF STUFF IS, IS IS WHAT I DO. YOU UNDERSTOOD. NOT REALLY FIXING LEAKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE PROBABLY NEVER COME AND PASS AFTER THIS MEETING, BUT I, I WISH YOU A GREAT SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE. UH, QUESTION OR, UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, QUESTION FOR, FOR STAFF. CURRENTLY THIS IS A C TWO. SO IF I WANT TO BUY THE PROPERTY FROM HIM AND OPEN A GIGANTIC LIQUOR STORE, I CAN, OR IF I WANT TO DO A TIRE TIRE SHOP BASED ON MODELS OF SOUTH AND EAST SIDE, UH, COMPONENTS OF WHAT I SEE ON MY SIDE OF TOWN, I COULD DO THAT. OKAY. SO JUST REMEMBER, JUST TO CONFIRM, YES. SO A LIQUOR STORE IS PERMITTED IN C TWO. SO YES, THAT USE WOULD BE PERMITTED. AND THEN OTHER AUTOMOBILE ITEMS LIKE A TIRE SHOP, UM, LUBE STORE, UM, WOULD BE ALSO PERMITTED IN A C TWO. GOTCHA. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS FOR THE OPPOSITION. JUST REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T WANT THINGS IN OUR BACKYARD SOMETIMES, RIGHT? IT'S NEW TO US. IT'S LIKE, OH MY GOD, I WANT THAT. YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T THERE AT MY PLACE WHEN THEY OPENED UP THAT, UH, CRACK HOUSE NEXT DOOR. BUT THE POINT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY. I KNOW, UH, MISS, UH, I'M SO SORRY. AL MS. SANDOVAL KIND OF HAD THE UM, UH, THE MEETING, ZOOM MEETING I GAVE, I BELIEVE HE GAVE IT TO, TO, TO THE, UH, DOMINION PERSON. HE KIND OF RELAYED THAT TO THE OTHERS. UH, AND THEY SEEMED TO ME, SEEMS LIKE THEY CHOSE NOT TO COME. 'CAUSE HE, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY EITHER ALREADY DISAGREED OR, OR OPPOSED THIS POSITION, OPPOSITION FOR THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT. BUT, UM, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AND LET'S TRY TO KEEP IT TO QUESTIONS, UH, AT THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING. UM, ALRIGHT. I DO HAVE A FEW, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IF THIS WERE A REQUEST FOR A C3 ZONING, UM, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO THEORETICALLY A PERSON COULD OPERATE 24 HOURS A DAY WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF OTHER CITY REGULATIONS, CORRECT? OTHER CITY REGULATIONS LIKE NOISE ORDINANCE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO BY ALLOWING THE PULL DOWN OF C3 USES INTO C TWO, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON AND FREQUENTLY ADVISABLE TO GET HOURS OF OPERATION LIMITS, CORRECT? CORRECT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER SIPES, I REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. NOW, TYPICALLY WHEN WE SEE A CD WHEN WE'RE PULLING DOWN, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE USUALLY, WE'RE PULLING DOWN A SINGULAR USE, BUT IN THIS CASE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THERE'S, THERE WERE FIVE USES THAT WE WERE PULLING DOWN. NO. UM, SHE DOES CALL OUT MULTIPLE USES, BUT THEY'RE ALL PART OF THE AUTO REPAIR. LIKE YOU CAN FIX THE MUFFLER, YOU COULD FIX UPHOLSTERY, UH, THE GLASS, UM, OKAY. AND THE OTHER, AGAIN, THE OTHER VEHICLES. SO AGAIN, THEY WOULD ALL BE ACCESSORY TO THE OVERALL, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. I WAS JUST WANTING TO CONFIRM. THANK YOU. YES. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND A POTENTIAL MOTION. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. UH, THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT CASE, A CONTROVERSIAL CASE AS THE COMMISSION IS, UH, SO OFTEN SEES, UM, IN SOME WAYS, CHAIRMAN, I'D HOPE THIS WAS AN APRIL FOOL'S JOKE THAT THIS WAS NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT APPEARS IT'S NOT, UH, IN, IN ASKING THE QUESTIONS, IT SEEMS LIKE BOTH SIDES ARE AMENABLE TO, UH, AN IN-PERSON MEETING TO FURTHER DISCUSS THIS, THIS ISSUE. GIVEN THE VOLUME AND SUBSEQUENT WEIGHT OF THE OPPOSITION, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING FOR APPROVAL. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS CASE TO FACILITATE AN IN-PERSON MEETING BETWEEN THE OPPOSITION AND THE APPLICANT SO THAT PERHAPS THE PARTIES CAN COME [00:50:01] TO SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE THE COMMISSION NEXT SESSION. AND SO I THEREFORE MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS CASE, UH, TO THE NEXT MEETING. SECOND THEN MOTION. OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE. ITEM NUMBER ONE TO THE APRIL 15TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOTTLES. UM, AND YOU CAN THANK COMMISSIONER ORTIZ FOR THIS CASE BEING FIRST . UM, BUT UH, ALRIGHT. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT, UH, I'M GONNA SECOND WHAT COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ SAID. I THINK YOU KNOW, THERE IS A ROOM FOR SOME DISCUSSION HERE AND PERHAPS SOME FINDING OF COMMON GROUND. I URGE Y'ALL TO LOOK AT THOSE POSSIBILITIES. ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 15TH. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? NO. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? NO. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER WITS? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? NO. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, WE WILL SEE Y'ALL IN TWO WEEKS. THANK YOU. OR ALL RIGHT, I BELIEVE OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER TWO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEDA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS LOCATED AT 1 8 3 7 SANTA MONICA. GOING FROM R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS TO N-C-C-D-S NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A ROOMING HOUSE AND A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST. ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME. THERE ARE 36 NOTICES SENT OUT. FIVE IN FAVOR. ONE. OPPOSED LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE. THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED R FOUR R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND OH 1.5 MID-RISE OFFICE DISTRICT. THE EXISTING R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED N-C-C-D-S NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR ROOMING HOUSE AND A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST IS NOT APPROPRIATE. THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS TO DEVELOP A ROOMING HOUSE. THE ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST ALLOWS FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A, B AND B AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES IN IN THE FUTURE. STAFF HAS CONCERNS THAT THE PROPOSED USES ARE INAPPROPRIATELY LOCATED, ABUTTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND FURTHER THE POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDITIONALLY, THE SIZE OF SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS SPATIAL LIMITATIONS, LIMITATIONS, PREVENTING PROPER PARKING AND ADEQUATE BUFFERS. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AMEND THEIR, HIS REQUEST TO NCCD NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A ROOMING HOUSE. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE A APPLICANT PLEASE. DO YOU WANNA PUT IT UP HERE? I'LL, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS NATHAN MOORE. I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 1837 SANTA MONICA STREET. ARE YOU GONNA DO THE 3D UH, RIGHT NOW I CAN DO IT AF YEAH, I CAN IT AFTER. YEAH, GO. UM, SO THIS IS A CONTINUANCE HEARING, UM, FROM LAST WEEK OR LAST HEARING TILL NOW. UH, TAKING THE INPUT FROM THE CO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, WE OR I HAVE DECIDED TO REMOVE THE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST FOR THE BED AND BREAKFAST TO FOCUS MY EFFORTS ON JUST THE ROOMING HOUSE, UH, AND SCALE DOWN THE, UH, POSSIBILITIES TO, UH, FOCUS ON WHAT, UH, SUCCESSES I'M ALREADY SEEING IN THIS PROPERTY, UH, IN THIS LOCATION. UH, ANOTHER CHANGE THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THE LAST HEARING IS I DID GO DOOR TO DOOR, UM, AND SPOKE TO, UH, I THINK WE HAVE A MAP OF WHO I SPOKE TO, UM, AND WAS ABLE TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. UM, THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY WAS, UH, OVERWHELMINGLY [00:55:01] I, I THOUGHT AN APPROVAL OF DEVELOPING THE, THE AREA, UM, MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT NICER. UM, THE CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING ARE STILL PRESENT. UM, ONE, ONE HOMER HAD TO ASK ABOUT HOW I WAS GONNA HANDLE THE PARKING. UM, AND I THINK I HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THAT THAT IS PRESENTED ON THE SCREEN. UM, AND THEN I ALSO REVIEWED, UH, THE REASON THAT WE ARE SCALING BACK ON THE BED AND BREAKFAST AND REMOVING THAT REQUEST, UH, WAS AFTER A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH ON THE STRATEGIC HOUSING INITIATIVE PLAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, UM, MY INTEREST WOULD ALIGN WITH THE HOUSING PLAN INITIATIVE, UH, BY PROVIDING MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES IN SAN ANTONIO. I BELIEVE THE INITIATIVE IS LOOKING TO HAVE 28,000 HOMES, UH, OR HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. SO SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE USE OF THE FURNISHED ROOMING HOUSE, I ENVISION MY DEVELOPMENT TO BE A FIRST STEP FOR FAMILIES NEEDING TO EXIT, UH, OR EXITING HOMELESSNESS, WHILE MAINTAINING ACCESS TO CRUCIAL LOCAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES IN THE AREA. UH, UNIQUE TO THE LOCATION OF MY PROPERTY. UM, MY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FURTHER PRESERVES THE SOUL OF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE INTENT TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, UH, AS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE ARCHITECTURAL THEMES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, MY PROPOSAL TO LIMIT DEVELOPMENT TO A ROOMING HOUSE ALSO THAT ADDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE COMMUNITY IS IN KEEPING WITH THE SPIRIT OF A NEUTRAL BUFFER, UH, BETWEEN, OF A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ALLOWING, UH, FOR AN IDEAL INTERMEDIATE USE BETWEEN THE C ONE ZONE TO THE WEST AND THE R FOUR ZONE TO THE EAST. SO I HAVE ALSO PREPARED A 3D MODEL THAT CAN BE, UM, REVIEWED AND I HAVE SOME SCREENSHOTS OF A RENDERING, UM, OF A PATH APPROACHING. UH, PLEASE DISREGARD THE STAR WARS. A TAT AS. SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S NOT AN APP? THERE IS, THERE IS NOT . OKAY. UM, I HAVE PARKING IN THE FRONT. UH, I ALSO, UM, PROVIDED, YEAH, IS THERE, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN ORDER. THERE WE GO. YEAH. UM, SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST PICTURE, UH, THIS IS FROM THE STREET, LOOKING TOWARDS THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE DRIVEWAY THAT IS SLOPING DOWN TO GET BEHIND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, UH, THERE ARE TWO PARKING SPOTS INTENDED TO BE AVAILABLE, UH, IN THE, IN THE ROOMING HOUSE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ZONING. THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TWO PARKING SPOTS AVAILABLE FOR THE OWNER. UM, I'M THINKING ABOUT SELLING MY FORD EXPLORER AND GETTING A HORSE AND CARRIAGE. I HEARD IT'S CHEAPER . UH, AND THEN AS WE GO DOWN THE, UM, YEAH, JUST GO TO THE NEXT ONE. THERE WE GO. SO AS WE GO DOWN THE RAMP, UM, THE TEXTURES THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE GROUND ARE THE IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, IMPLEMENT. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS, UH, PAVED WITH THE GRASS POCKETS TO ALLOW FOR, UH, THE PERVIOUS COVER. UH, THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE, UH, NORTH SIDE, LOOKING TOWARDS THE STREET, LOOKING UP THE RAMP. UH, AND THEN THE NEXT, THIS IS LOOKING DOWN. LET'S GO AGAIN. HERE WE GO. UH, SO YOU CAN SEE I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF ARMY VEHICLES AS WELL, AND THERE'S AN AMBULANCE THAT WAS ABLE TO FIT IN THIS UNDERGROUND STRUCTURE. UM, . YEAH, . SO, UH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE HAVE AMPLE PARKING SPACE, UM, IN THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS WELL AS PUTTING SOME THOUGHT INTO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS INTO THE STRUCTURE. UM, I HAVE A NUMBER OF, I HAVE TWO ROUTES OF INGRESS AND EGRESS, UM, TO THE PROPERTY AS WELL. UH, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST, UM, PICTURE, THERE IS ALSO THE LANDSCAPE THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A LITTLE BIT BETTER RIGHT THERE. OH, THAT, THAT ONE. SO THAT IS THE INTENDED LANDSCAPE BUFFER ZONE WITH A SCREEN WALL AND THE, UM, DRIVEWAY ITSELF. I WAS PROPOSING TO KEEP THAT GRASS IN THERE TO BE AS PART OF THE LANDSCAPING FEATURES. SO WITH THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY TIME LIMIT IS. YEAH. [01:00:01] UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE THERE YET, BUT YOU CAN BE . UM, I ALSO HAVE, UH, A VIDEO OF THE RENDERING THAT I CAN, WE CAN ZOOM IN AND IT JUST KIND OF SHOWS IT'S A LITTLE 32ND. SURE. YOU HAVE TO COME IN. YEP. YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT IT'S NOT, THERE WE GO. NOW CENTER IT IF YOU COULD. THERE WE GO. CLOSE. THERE YOU GO. THERE. SHE'S, OKAY. SO WE'RE ENTERING THE PROPERTY . UH, THERE'S A WALKWAY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE, UH, WITH A RAILING. AND THIS IS THE PARKING AREA AND THERE'S ANOTHER ACCESS. AND I'M WALKING BACK. YOU WANNA PLAY IT AGAIN? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. MOORE. GOOD DEAL. ALRIGHT, UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO TO YOU COMMISSIONER KELLUM. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. QUESTIONS? UH, NO, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY, WELL, TWO THINGS. I, I'D LIKE TO SAY YOU DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. UH, I ENJOYED THE PRESENTATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER IF I MADE IT COMMISSIONER WATSON BECAUSE SHE WAS FULL OF WONDERFUL QUESTIONS AND ADVICE AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE ANSWERED. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONER WATSON TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, THE RENDERING. UH, IT IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING, UH, TO DO. UM, MY INITIAL QUESTION, UM, I GUESS IS, UH, WHAT KIND OF SITE ADJUSTMENTS ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE TO EXISTING CONDITIONS TO ACHIEVE THE UNDERGROUND PARKING THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED? YEAH, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE AN EXCAVATION. OKAY. UM, HOW DEEP DO YOU ENVISION THIS UNDERGROUND PARKING BE? 10 FEET. OKAY. SO THE REAR STRUCTURE IS ELEVATED A FEW FEET AS WELL TO ALLOW FOR THE PROPER CLEARANCE. AND THEN I'M TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF EXCAVATION WHILE ALSO, UH, USING THE BUILDING LEVEL ONE TO KIND OF BE ABOVE. SO IDEALLY WHAT I WANT TO DO IS KIND OF LIKE HALF AND HALF, UM, BUT THAT STILL HAS TO BE ALL DESIGNED. OKAY. UM, WHAT, UH, HAVE YOU DONE ANY, LIKE INITIAL EVALUATION, BECAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED THAT YOU HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT HAVE YOU DONE INITIAL SITE EVALUATION ABOUT, UM, HOW YOUR PROPOSAL'S GONNA IMPACT DRAINAGE AND RUNOFF? YEAH, SO THE PURPOSE OF THE PERVIOUS COVER WAS TO ALLOW FOR PERCOLATION DOWN, AND THEN I DO IMAGINE THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO INSTALL A STORM DRAIN WITH SUMP PUMP OR SOME SORT OF STORM TRAP SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS FOR ADDITIONAL PERCOLATION BELOW THE PARKING AREA. UM, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH, UH, UH, SORT OF THE STEPS, NOT NECESSARILY A TIMETABLE, BUT IN TERMS OF THE DISTANCE, YOU'RE DOING SOME SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENTS TO THE SITE. UM, THE STAGES OF LIKE CREATING THE ACCESS POINT, DOING THE UNDERGROUND EXCAVATION, BUILDING THE THING ON TOP, LIKE WHAT ORDER WOULD THAT BE HAPPENING IN? SO THE, THE NATURAL PROGRESSION OF THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, IS FAVORABLE TO BE ACCESSING THE PROPERTY FROM THAT DRIVE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE. UM, THAT IS ALSO THE CURRENT, UH, ENTRANCE TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. SO WE WOULD CON, WE WOULD GRADE THAT DOWN FIRST, THEN WE WOULD EXCAVATE OUT THE REAR AND EXIT THROUGH THAT SAME CONSTRUCTION AND EXIT ENTRANCE. UH, AND THEN AFTER THAT IS GRADED IN THE REAR, I WOULD BRING IN, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF, UM, MACHINE TO DRILL A PIER. UH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF PIERS. I THINK A SIX IS WHAT I WAS IMAGINING. UM, AND THEN ONCE THOSE PIERS ARE INSTALLED, UH, IT WOULD [01:05:01] BE STRUCTURAL STEEL ON TOP OF THE PIERS TO CREATE THE PLATFORM. UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY THE END OF THE, THE MAJOR RENOVATION AND THEN IT'S STICK BUILT FROM THERE. OKAY. UM, DO YOU ENVISION THAT ANY, UH, LIKE YOUR EXISTING TENANT OR YOUR EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USE IN THE DUPLEX STRUCTURE THAT YOU'RE PRESERVING IS GOING TO CONTINUE WHILE YOU'RE UNDERGOING THIS CONSTRUCTION PROCESS? THAT WAS THE INTENT. OKAY. UH, I DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS POTENTIALLY, BUT I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS FIRST BEFORE COMING BACK TO THOSE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WATSON, WE'RE GONNA GO COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT QUESTIONS? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE FOR STAFF, WHAT IS THE, UM, HEIGHT LIMIT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL 25 B? THE HEIGHT LIMITATION IS, SORRY, BEAR WITH ME. IT IS 25 FEET AND THEN, AND IT ACTUALLY IS A LITTLE BIT SHORTER THAN WHAT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WOULD PERMIT, WHICH IS 35 FEET BUFFER ZONE BUFFER ZONE . ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CHASE? NO, NONE. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER, HE HOSA FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, REAL QUICK, UH, YOU, YOU HAD ME AT THE STAR WARS AT T BUT UH, I DIDN'T SEE NO TRANSFORMERS. THE BUILDING ITSELF REMIND ME, SO WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR GOAL AGAIN? WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT BUILDING GONNA BECOME? UH, ROOMING HOUSE. SO IT'S GONNA BE 30 DAYS OR MORE, UH, FULLY FURNISHED UNITS TO ALLOW PEOPLE, UM, WELL ALLOW PEOPLE WHO NEED 30 DAYS OR MORE RENT. GOTCHA. AND THEN THE, THE PARKING UM, UH, IS VERY UNIQUE. UH, I I LIKE THAT. GOOD THING MY WIFE'S AND HERE 'CAUSE SHE PROBABLY WENT THERE FOR OUR HOUSE. BUT STAFF A QUESTION FOR STAFF REAL QUICK. IT IT, I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE. IT DOESN'T MEAN OBVIOUSLY IT CAN'T HAPPEN, BUT ARE THERE OTHER PERMITS OR THERE'S, BESIDES THE 20, UH, 35 FEET, NO, THE, WHAT WAS IT, 25 FEET? I'M ASSUMING THAT GROUND FLOOR, THE HOUSING, WHAT IS, WHAT'S ON LEVEL? THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE FLOOR ONE OR GROUND FLOOR. THAT HEIGHT REGULATION WOULD GO OFF OF THE GROUND FLOOR. SO IF HE GOES UNDERNEATH, IT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE HEIGHT THAT JUST, THEY WOULD START AT GRADE OF WHERE YOUR PRETTY MUCH WHERE YOUR PROPERTY LINES ARE. THAT WOULD BE THE GRADE THAT THEY WOULD GO OFF OF UNDERNEATH WOULD JUST BE LIKE A BASEMENT KIND OF A IS THERE REGULATIONS AND CODE FOR THAT? I'M ASSUMING THERE IS. I WOULD IMAGINE THERE ARE. YES. PLENTY OF UH, BUILDING RE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING REGULATIONS YES. THAT PLAN REVIEW WOULD LOOK AT. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONS ON MY RIGHT AND, AND WHILE I'M THINKING OF IT, MR. MOORE, ARE YOU FORMALLY REQUESTING TO AMEND YOUR REQUEST TO NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR ROOMING HOUSE ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME THAT MEANS THAT I'M FORMALLY REQUESTING TO REMOVE THE BED AND BREAKFAST. USE THE SPECIFIC USE. YES, I AM FORMALLY REQUESTING IT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT QUESTIONS. UH, COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S IT, I HAVE A QUESTION. DO YOU KNOW IF YOUR SEWER IS LOCATED IN THE ALLEY? YEAH, THE SEWER IS GOING TO THE REAR, THAT IS CORRECT. SO THAT IS MY BELIEF. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO UNDERNEATH YOUR BASEMENT WITH YOUR SEWER OR, UH, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE ALSO LIKE THE STORM IF THERE MAY BE A SUMP PUMP SITUATION THAT HAS TO GO IN. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? ON MY LEFT. ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER WATSON AND THEN COMMISSIONER KELLUM. OKAY. UM, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE, UM, IS FOR STAFF, I THINK, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, UM, OR SHARE WITH US WHETHER THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL PERMITTING OR SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PERTINENT TO, UH, ROOMING HOUSES? IT'S AN UNUSUAL TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL USE, WE JUST DON'T SEE IT THAT OFTEN. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT. I'M TRYING TO LOOK IN THE UDC TO SEE IF THERE'S INFORMATION SUPPLEMENTAL ON ROOMING HOUSE, JUST BECAUSE SHORT TERM RENTALS HAVE THEIR OWN SIDE OF RULES. I KNOW THAT THERE'S CERTAIN THING PERMITTING SITUATIONS THAT WE GET INTO WITH LIKE BED AND BREAKFAST AND HOTELS. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THOSE. UM, IF THERE ARE ANY IN THIS SITUATION, IF YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO ANOTHER QUESTION, I CAN COME BACK TO THIS SO WE'RE NOT STANDING HERE, SITTING HERE LOOKING AT ME. [01:10:01] VERY GOOD. UM, COMMISSIONER WATSON, ANYTHING FOR, FOR FURTHER FROM YOU? YES, UH, THE OTHER, UH, I HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL DISRUPTION THAT'S GONNA BE COMING FROM THE TYPE OF EXCAVATION, UM, WHAT CONSIDERATIONS OR UH, INFORMATION, FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS IN YOUR OUTREACH PROCESS ABOUT POTENTIALLY MITIGATING SOME OF THE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS ON THEM? SO, UM, I ACTUALLY HAD MULTIPLE OF MY NEIGHBORS ASK IF THEY COULD BE PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION . UM, THAT, THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT CONSTRUCTION. UM, THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN, UH, WAS JUST ABOUT THE FINISHED PRODUCT, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS PARKING AND THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE, UM, CLOGGING UP THE STREETS. SO IN THAT CONTEXT, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, I THINK WHAT WE'D HAVE TO BE VERY VIGILANT AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NO CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, PARKED AFTER HOURS OR ANYTHING IN THE STREETS SO THAT THE PARKING THAT IS THERE IS RESERVED FOR THE RESIDENTS. OKAY. UM, AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ASKED THIS BEFORE I ASKED THAT QUESTION, UM, BUT UH, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED IN A COUPLE PLACES AND THE COUNTS HAVE CHANGED. CAN YOU JUST WALK THROUGH FOR THE BENEFIT OF, UM, ALL OF US WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WAS FOLLOWING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS LAST TIME? YEP. I WENT DOOR TO DOOR, UM, KNOCKED ON EVERY DOOR THAT WAS WITHIN 200 FEET OF MY PROPERTY LINES. UM, I HAD A NUMBER OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS, UM, WITH ALL OF THE, WELL WITH A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT'S LISTED ON THE, ON THE MAP. UM, AND EVERYBODY THAT I TALKED TO EXCEPT FOR ONE PERSON WAS, UH, EITHER STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OR KIND OF LIKE, YEAH, IF IT'S GONNA BETTER YOU GO AHEAD. LIKE, IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME. UM, AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT WAS, UH, OPPOSED THAT I DID TALK TO, HE DIDN'T REALLY WANNA SIGN ANYTHING OR MAKE ANY STATEMENT. UM, AND I, YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS, SO MY, MY GENERAL IMPRESSION WAS THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING NICE IN THEIR AREA. THEY'RE EXCITED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ARE IN THAT SAME FIELD SO THEY KIND OF KNOW WHAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ENTAIL. UM, SO, UH, I THINK IT WAS GENERALLY POSITIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU AFTER ANY INFORMATION. SO LOOKING AT, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS WITHIN THE CITY ABOUT ROOMING HOUSES, TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CFO AND OTHER REGULATIONS, BUILDING REGULATIONS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT THERE'S NOT ADDITIONAL, UH, PERMITTING OR REGULATIONS. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN, UH, I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME, BUT CAN WE LOOK AT THE ALLEY, UM, IS THAT IN TERMS OF HIS MENTION OF THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES PARKING ACCESS, HOW IS THAT ALLEY CURRENTLY BEING USED? UH, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS? IT IS, UH, IT IS RIGHT OF WAY PUBLIC, RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THE BACK, THE REAR THERE. I'M NOT CERTAIN IF IT'S FULLY DEVELOPED YET. UM, BUT IT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT TO UTILIZE IF HE NEEDS. OKAY, THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME. PERHAPS STAFF, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO SAY IT SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO USE. IT SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT. THERE WE GO. I I WILL ADD, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT IF THAT IS GOING TO BE THE ACCESS POINT OR EXIT POINT FOR THAT PROPERTY, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO UPGRADE THE ALLEY IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR CODES. SO THERE'S THOSE REQUIREMENTS WOULD APPLY. AND, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT, UH, THAT WOULD INCLUDE LIKE PAVING FOR EXAMPLE, CLEARING, PAVING, GRADING, ET CETERA? YES SIR. CORRECT. UP TO CITY STANDARDS. OKAY. CITY STREET STANDARDS, WHICH IS WHY NO ONE DOES IT CORRECT ? THAT IS CORRECT. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I'M GONNA ASK ONE QUESTION AND IT'S A SILLY ONE SO I'M JUST GIVING EVERYONE WARNING. IS IT PRONOUNCED A AT OR A T? A T? I THINK IT'S A T. A T. OKAY. THERE'S AN AD THAT SAYS A AT AND I'M STICKING WITH A A . ALRIGHT, THAT BEING SAID, COMMISSIONER KELLUM TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU MS. WATSON. UH, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. I LIKE THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE YOU UH, TAKING THE ADVICE OF A COMMISSIONER WATSON AND WALKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, GETTING THEIR SUPPORT, MAYBE EVEN GETTING SOME HELP TO BUILD. THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME. UM, BUT I HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE MOTION TO PASS. OKAY, SO THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. UH, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. [01:15:01] OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT. SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT. UM, YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY. SO I DO LIKE YOUR PRESENTATION AND I THINK YOU PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AT THIS PROPERTY WITH YOUR ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND I FEEL THAT THIS IS WAY TOO INTENSE AND I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT. UM, I DO SHARE COMMISSIONER WHO'S, UM, CONCERNS TO SOME DEGREE. UM, THIS IS SORT OF ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF I 10 FROM PARTS OF MY DISTRICT WHERE ROAMING HOUSES CAN BE SOURCES OF CONTENTION WITH THE NEIGHBORS. UM, NEVERTHELESS, UM, THIS HAS GONE TO PLANNING, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. ALRIGHT. UM, AND SO THE AMENDMENT HAS OCCURRED AND WE ARE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. AND SO WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION, THOSE BOTH WILL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DECISION. THANK YOU. UM, SO PLANNING HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UH, BUT GIVEN THE SUPPORT THAT APPEARS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. SO AT THIS POINT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES? NO. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? NO. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES AS AMENDED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. I'LL NEED IT. . ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT CASE IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE. I BELIEVE I, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEDA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED AT 4 0 3 3 COLIBRA ROAD GOING FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO R THREE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 28 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. CULEBRA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OR MF 33 MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT AND C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED R THREE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE. THE REQUEST TO REZONE IS TO PERMIT THE COMPLETION OF AN EXISTING DWELLING UNIT ON THE PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH THE AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIALLY ZONED. MUCH OF THE BLOCK CONSISTS OF ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL USES. THE PROPOSED ZONING IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATE HOUSING TYPES TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION AT ALL INCOME LEVELS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD COME FORWARD PLEASE AND IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MACEL MONTANO. UM, WELL THE ONLY THING IS, UM, THAT I'M REQUESTING JUST TO KEEP GOING WITH THIS PROJECT. IT WAS BEING APPROVED IN THE PAST AND I GUESS FOR CITIES OR STAFF ERRORS, WE GOT STOPPED AND, AND NOW THEY, THEY TOLD ME THERE HAS TO BE A COMMERCIAL AND THEN IT'S THE BUILDING'S ALREADY UP AND IT WAS ALREADY INSPECTED. SO I'M JUST WAITING FOR APPROVAL, I GUESS AND KEEP GOING. WHAT, WHAT THE PLAN THAT I HAVE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. MONTEJANO. WHY DON'T YOU JUST WAIT RIGHT THERE. STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE COMMISSIONER SIPES TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. YEAH, THANK YOU. UH, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, UH, THAT I HAVE REVOLVE AROUND, UM, THE ASK FOR THE R THREE ZONING. UM, HOW, HOW WAS THAT DETERMINED? YOU KNOW, VERSUS, AND, AND THE REASON I ASK IS THE, UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS AREA [01:20:02] IS EITHER IN THE PLANS OR THE WORKS OR THOUGHT THINKING ABOUT HAVING A LARGE AREA REZONING WHERE THIS WOULD BE R FIVE. AND SO THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 7,000 SQUARE FEET. AND THE QUESTION IS, IS WHY, WHY AN R THREE VERSUS SAY AN R FIVE OR AN R FOUR? AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT OR IF THAT WAS WHAT WAS STAFFED WAS RECOMMENDING WELL, OR WELL, THE STAFF, THAT'S WHAT THEY RECOMMEND. I THINK, I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE OR THE, THE, THE REGULATIONS ARE, BUT THEY TOLD ME, UM, C3 BECAUSE UM, IT'S GONNA BE A RESIDENTIAL THAT'S, I GUESS FOR, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT IT IS. I'M NOT CERTAIN, UM, IF I DON'T HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING, WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WAS R THREE, BUT AS YOU STATED, THE PROPERTY IS, WAS OVER 7,000 SQUARE FEET. SO R SIX COULD POTENTIALLY BE MORE APPROPRIATE. AND WHAT THE NUMBERS, UM, R FOUR SIR. AND SO IF YOU ARE, IF YOU WERE AN R SIX, THE SIX STANDS FOR YOUR BA UH, YOUR, SORRY, YOUR PLAT OR YOUR PROPERTY HAS TO BE 6,000 SQUARE FEET. IF YOUR R THREE, THAT MEANS YOUR PROPERTY CAN BE AS LOW AS 3000 SQUARE FEET. SO I GUESS THE CONCERN IS IF YOU WERE TO ASK FOR AN R THREE AND YOU'RE ABOUT 7,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT MEANS YOU COULD POTENTIALLY, POSSIBLY CUT IT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND PUT TWO UNITS THERE. SO THAT IS PROBABLY WHERE THE CONCERN IS COMING FROM. YOU HAVE ALREADY READ MY MIND YES. THAT THAT WAS THE CONCERN WAS AND, AND THAT WAS, UM, EXPRESSED, UH, FROM THE, FROM THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WAS THAT AS AN R THREE? IT COULD BE SUBDIVIDED. UM, I'M NOT SURE. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE WIDTH TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAD THE CORRECT FRONTAGE, BUT, UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE IS, AND AND AGAIN THIS IS TO STAFF, COULD A MOTION BE MADE SAFE FOR AN R FOUR AND R FIVE OR IS THAT OUTSIDE OF OUR RANGE OF NO, I BELIEVE WE CAN AMEND TO AN R SIX. LET ME JUST CONFIRM BECAUSE HE'S ORIGINALLY A C TWO AND HE IS ASKING FOR AN R THREE. WHAT IS THAT IS GONNA AFFECT ME AND KEEP GOING, WORKING ON R SIX OR YOU'LL STILL, YOU'LL GET THAT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S JUST PUTTING IN A REGULATION THAT YOUR LOT SIZE WOULD HAVE TO BE AT THE FOUR OR 5,000 SQUARE FEET RATHER THAN THE 3000 SQUARE FEET. OKAY. WHICH IT ALREADY MEANS, I THINK WHAT IT IS IS BECAUSE THE LOT, IT'S ON LOT 11 AND THEN 10 11, THAT'S WHY THEY PUT ME IN R FIVE. 'CAUSE I'M BUILDING WHERE THE HOUSE WAS BEFORE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY HAS TWO LOTS. I GUESS IT WAS IN THE PAST 11 AND 12. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE, ALL THE CITY WENT THROUGH ALL THIS ALREADY AND THEY TOLD ME YOU HAVE TWO LOTS, SO YOU NEED A BUILD ON THIS SIDE. I MEAN, OH, I MEAN THIS IS MY FIRST NEW BUILD AND THEY RECOMMEND ALL THIS. WE SUBMIT EVERYTHING THAT THEY ASK AND THEY APPROVE IT. BUT IN THIS CASE NOW I'M MORE CONFUSED. . OKAY. I I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING. UM, AND UM, BUT I THINK IT'S PLATTED AS ONE LOT. BUT, BUT YES, BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AND YOU LOOK AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND AND IT'S LIKE, OH, YOU'RE ON NEW CITY BLACK LOTS 17, 18, 9, YOU KNOW, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT IT'S ST IT WAS STILL PLATTED AS ONE ONE LOT. I MEAN THERE'S TWO LOTS, BUT THERE'S ONE ADDRESS ACTUALLY THEY GIMME A NEW ADDRESS. THE ONE BEFORE IT WAS 40 43. WHAT IS IT RIGHT NOW? UH, 40 30 AND NOW IT'S 40 33. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS LOT 10 AND 11. SO TECHNICALLY IF HE HAD A COD THAT PROVED THAT IT COULD BE TWO SEPARATE LOTS THAT WERE PART OF A PLATTING, THEN HE COULD AND HE HAD THE CORRECT ZONING COULD POTENTIALLY BREAK IT INTO TWO DIFFERENT LOTS IF IT ALL WORKED OUT. BUT, SO, AND THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL PERMIT THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, UM, THAT IS ON HOLD IF YOU WILL, UNTIL THIS DISCUSSION, UM, HAPPENS AT CITY COUNCIL. AND SIR, WHAT IS, WHAT IS, WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING TODAY? LIKE WHAT IS A RESIDENTIAL HOME? JUST ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. MM-HMM . YES. YEAH. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN FRAMED. YES, THERE'S A PHOTO OF IT RIGHT THERE. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IF I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR R FIVE, WHICH WOULD MATCH WHAT THE FUTURE LAND, UM, [01:25:01] UH, LARGE AREA REZONING WOULD ON THE R FIVE, I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO BUILD SOMETHING MORE IN THE FUTURE OR JUST, I MEAN, IS IT GONNA STILL RESIDENTIAL? IT WOULD STILL STAY RESIDENTIAL. IT WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL AND IT LOOKED LIKE THE, THE, THE SETBACK, THE FRONT SETBACKS ARE STILL THE SAME, THE SIDE SETBACKS ARE THE SAME. IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THERE WAS ANY, ANY DANGER IF, IF YOU GO ABOVE THE R SORRY, GO AHEAD. SORRY. SO IF YOU GO ABOVE THE R THREE, THIS HAS TO BE REIFIED BECAUSE THAT'S HOW OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE AMENDMENT WITHOUT NOTICE AT 35, 4 0 3 IS THE, UH, NOTIFICATION PROVISIONS. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES. YES. OKAY. SO YES, IT IS OUTSIDE THE INTENSITY RANGE AND SO IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT WOULD NEED A RE UH, REIFICATION TO GO FOR THE R FOUR, R FIVE, R SIX. ALL RIGHT. LET ME, LET ME THINK ABOUT THIS AND, AND OPEN IT UP TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REALLY QUICK. AND JUST TO BE SURE WE CAN STILL GO FORWARD WITH THE R THREE EVEN THOUGH WE, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE, BUT WE CAN STILL GO FORWARD. NO, I UNDERSTAND. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONER WATSON. OKAY, SO THIS IS A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, SO SAY WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE R THREE, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT, UH, A DESIRE OR A NEED, WHATEVER, FOR WHATEVER REASON WE, THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO BUILD A SECOND UNIT AT SOME POINT, UM, WHAT WOULD THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? WOULD THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REPL? WOULD THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REZONING, ET CETERA WHERE THEY DID PULL PERMITS TO DO A SECOND UNIT? AGAIN, HE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO, UM, SPEAKING WITH OUR SUBDIVISIONS TEAM. IT COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE A REPL OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING OF UM, CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, MAYBE THERE ARE LOTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED. UM, BUT OTHERWISE IF THAT WAS THE CASE AND THEY MET THE R THREE STANDARDS ON SIZE AND SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, BUILDING FRONTAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEN HE COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD A SECOND UNIT ON THAT PROPERTY. OKAY. SO PROVIDED A PROPOSED SECOND UNIT FIT WITH CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SIZE OF THE LOT, IT COULD THEORETICALLY MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A BUNCH OF ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THERE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP THAT COULD REQUIRE A CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION PROCESS OR RELOTTING PROCESS, ET CETERA. BUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT EXISTS DEPENDING ON WHAT STRUCTURE IS PROPOSED THAT WITH THE R THREE REZONING, A SECOND UNIT COULD BE BUILT, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S IT FOR ME. ALRIGHT. NOW I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. AND EVEN IN R THREE HE CAN BUILD AN A DU AS OF RIGHT WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ZONING OR ANYTHING ELSE? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. BUT THE PERSON WOULD HAVE TO BE LIVING ON THE PROPERTY, SO CORRECT. YES. OKAY. AS LONG AS THE OWNER'S ON THE PROPERTY, A SECOND UNIT COULD BE BILLED AS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT SUBJECT TO THOSE REGULATIONS. CORRECT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SIPES, YOUR TIME IS UP. . . ALRIGHT. UM, I REALLY HATE TO DO THIS, UM, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT YOU ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND, BUT I'M GONNA ASK FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE SO THAT I CAN, I JUST WANT TO, I JUST WANNA FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT IT IF I CAN, YOU KNOW, I I'LL SO THAT I CAN, DO YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT HAS DIMENSIONS ON IT? I DO HAVE 'EM, BUT, UH, I MEAN I DON'T, I I DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATION WITH THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE . YEAH, IF YOU HAVE THEM ON YOUR PHONE SIR, WE CAN PULL IT UP OVER THE SCREEN. OKAY. AND THEN, AND THEN ONE THING I WANT TO JUST MENTION, IT'S, I'M BEING IN HOLD FOR FOUR MONTHS ALREADY AND THIS PROJECT, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ALREADY. UM, THAT'S WHAT MY FIGHT I HAVE WITH THE, UM, I MEAN I GOT SURPRISED WHEN THEY STOPPED AND EVERYTHING ON, ON THE PROJECT AND IT'S BEEN FOUR MONTHS SINCE THEY, THEY STOPPED ALL THE, THE WHOLE PROJECT. YEAH, I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT, BUT DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE LIKE A I DO HAVE THE PLANS, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE THAT, SOMETHING THAT SHOWS A DIMENSION WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR AND IF THE, IF STAFF, DO Y'ALL [01:30:01] HAVE A, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WIDTH OF HIS LOT IS? I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE FRONTAGE BASICALLY 50. UH, WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT RIGHT NOW. IT'S 52. ALRIGHT, THANKS. YEAH, 50 FEET RIGHT THERE. I'M GONNA PUT IT THE OTHER WAY SO THEY CAN SEE IT STRAIGHT. COULD WE SEE THE FRONTAGE PLEASE? OH, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE REAR, THAT'S THE REAR, THAT'S THE, THERE YOU GO. YEAH, I ACTUALLY, WELL, WELL THEY'RE CONSIDERING THINGS. STAFF. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. IF REIFICATION WERE TO BE REQUIRED, COULD I GUESS WHAT WOULD THAT, CAN WE NOT HAVE THIS COST THE APPLICANT ANYTHING? FIRST QUESTION, COULD WE WAIVE THOSE COSTS? HE, HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REPAY FOR THE COST AND WE CAN POTENTIALLY EXPEDITE THE CITY COUNCIL DATE. UM, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN KEEP THE SAME ONE BUT OKAY. WE CAN TRY TO, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ZONING . THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION IS HOW LONG WOULD IT, SO WE COULD EXPEDITE CITY COUNCIL, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE US TO GET NEW NOTICES OUT THE NEXT MEETING? NEXT NEXT MEETING THAT WE NO, THAT WE, NO, UM, WE'VE ALREADY SENT NOTICES OR I'M SORRY. UM, WE'VE ALREADY POSTED CAPTIONS FOR THE NEXT MEETING. SO THE NEXT, IF WE HAD TO RE NOTIFY THE NEXT ZONING COMMISSION MEETING THAT IT WOULD BE POSSIBLY SET FOR WOULD BE MAY 6TH. AND IF, UM, WITH SUPPORT OF THE DISTRICT OFFICE, WHICH I BELIEVE THEY WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, SUPPORT, IT WOULD POTENTIALLY GO THEN TO UM, CITY COUNCIL THE 15TH OF MAY. OF MAY. YES. WHEN I PUT MY APPLICATION, THEY TOLD ME MY CITY COUNCIL DAY WAS GONNA APRIL 17. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. AND WE CAN'T CHANGE A RECOMMENDATION BETWEEN COMMISSION AND COUNCIL, RIGHT? I MEAN THEY WOULD HAVE TO RE NOTIFY IF THEY DECIDED AT COUNCIL IF, IF, IF SAY A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF R THREE WENT THROUGH THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON AT COUNCIL, CORRECT. WOULD BE R THREE. THEY COULD NOT SAY, OH WELL LET'S DO R FOUR. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. IS THERE A WAY, SIR, TO SCROLL DOWN TO SEE WHAT THE WIDTH, THE TOTAL WIDTH OF THE LOT IS? I THINK IT'S GONNA, I THINK IT'S UM, CORNER OF BEAR COUNTY IS 52 FEET. YEAH, IT'S 52 FEET. SO IT WOULD, IT'S 52 FEET WIDTH. WIDTH. IT WOULD EASILY MEET. SO IT COULD EASILY BE SPLIT INTO TWO. YES SIR. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND, UH, UH, CHAIR BUSTA MONTE'S, UM, NOTE ABOUT HAVING AN A DU AS WELL. I THINK THE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN WAS THAT YOU COULD, INSTEAD OF HAVING JUST A, THEY UNDERSTOOD THE A DU ASPECT, IT WAS THAT YOU COULD HAVE A SECOND UNIT WITH ANOTHER A DU SO THAT YOU WOULD END UP WITH FOUR UNITS, UM, POSSIBLY. UM, SO JUST PUT IT ALL INTO PERSPECTIVE. IT IS 52 FEET WIDE. THE, THE TWO LOTS. UM, IF THEY GO, IF THE R THREE WAS PERMITTED, THE STANDARD WIDTH OR THE UH, MAXIMUM, OR I'M SORRY, THE MINIMUM STREET FRONTAGE WIDTH FOR R THREE IS 15 FEET AND YOU'D HAVE TO BE A 20 FOOT, UM, MINIMUM. SO ABOUT 20 FEET WOULD HAVE TO BE THE MINIMUM FOR R THREE. UM, THE HOUSE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING, IT DOES, IT'S ABOUT FIVE FEET FROM THE SIDE TO THE, UM, TO THE WEST HERE. BUT IT DOES LOOK TO TOUCH THE, UM, MIDDLE [01:35:01] PROPERTY, LIKE THE LINE THAT GOES STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THERE. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO SOME TYPE OF RE PLATTING IF THEY WERE TO HAVE, IF THEY WANTED TO LOOK INTO REDEVELOPING THE, REDEVELOPING IT AS TWO SEPARATE LOTS. AND REAL QUICK, UM, JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT HE CAN DO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A F TWO C TWO CONVERSION WHICH ALLOWS RIGHT NOW AT 33 UNITS PER ACRE. SO HE CAN BUILD FIVE UNITS RIGHT NOW WITHOUT REZONING. SO, WELL IT DOESN'T NEED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. OKAY. COULD YOU EXPOUND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE? SO, SO, SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL, CORRECT? UM, SOME PROPERTIES THAT WENT FROM F TO C TWO, UH, B TWO TO C TWO, UH, C ONE TO C, UM, B ONE TO C TWO CURRENTLY BY RIGHT, THEY'RE PERMITTED 33 UNITS PER ACRE. UM, AS LONG AS THEY'RE ABLE TO BUILD MATHEMATICALLY FIVE UNITS, IT'S CONSIDERED MULTIFAMILY AND THIS IS POINT 1791 ACRES WHICH ALLOWS HIM TO BUILD FIVE UNITS. HMM. ALMOST. IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S ACTUALLY 5.9. SO HE COULD GO UP TO SIX UNITS. INTERESTING. WITHOUT REZONING. YEAH. SEE WE, WE WE'VE HEARD THE THE B CONVERSION ALL THE TIME, BUT I'VE NOT HEARD THAT ONE. IS THERE, IS THERE ALL THESE LITTLE, THAT'S THE ONLY TWO THINGS WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE? YEP. ALRIGHT, PEN D. ALRIGHT, WELL WITH THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE AN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AS SUBMITTED SECOND. ALRIGHT. UH, I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO COMMISSIONER CHASE FOR THE SECOND. SHE WAS CLOSER TO ME. SHE WAS UM, ALRIGHT, SO THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER SIPES AS SUBMITTED WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHASE. DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT. UM, BRIEF DISCUSSION FROM ME. I THINK THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER. UH, I WOULD'VE PREFERRED TO HAVE SEEN AN R FIVE OR R SIX ON THIS PROPERTY. UM, BUT GIVEN WHERE WE ARE AND GIVEN THE LIMITATIONS ON THE SIZE, WHETHER IT WOULD'VE TO GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, RE BE REPLANTED, DO SOMETHING ELSE TO GET THAT SECOND LOT IN THERE, I THINK THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER. I'M SUPPORTING THE MOTION ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY. AYE. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, GOOD LUCK. YOU'RE GONNA CITY COUNCIL NEXT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, TAKE CARE. ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND FOR THE RECORD, UH, COMMISSIONER HU LEAVING AT 2 38. GOOD AFTERNOON. BRONTE FRE ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 3 0 1 EAST FEST STREET GOING FROM R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A DUPLEX TO IDZ TWO. MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS. ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. THERE ARE 38 NOTICES SENT TWO IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THERE IS ONE IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED. LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT OPPOSED. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS. IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE EXISTING R SIX CD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR A DUPLEX IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED IDZ TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN PROXIMITY TO OTHER PROPERTY ZONE FOR MULTIFAMILY USE TO THE NORTH. THE REQUESTED ZONING IS FOR RESIDENTIAL USES AND WOULD LIMIT THE PROPERTY TO FOUR DWELLING UNITS. THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT ZONING REQUIRE REQUEST REQUIRES A PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED WITHOUT FURTHER PUBLIC REVIEW. THE PROPOSED ZONING IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATE ALTERNATE HOUSING TYPES TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION AT ALL INCOME LEVELS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TO ANSWER, NOT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THEIR SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CASE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. SINCE THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE. UM, I AM WELL WE HAVE VOICEMAIL. WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL. YES. [01:40:01] I'M GONNA LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT AS I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY. MS. SANDERS TO THE ZONING CASE ENDING IN 0 3 7 ON FE ON FEST STREET. MY NAME IS COLTON UNIN AND I RESIDE AT TWO ONE ONE EAST FE STREET. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (919) 500-6073. I RESIDE THREE HOUSES DOWN FROM THE REZONING. I'M OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING. DUE TO THE CONCERNS AROUND OUR PARK STREET AND THE PROLIFERATION OF VEHICLES ON IT, I'M 100% IN FAVOR OF MORE DENSITY AND I WOULD LOVE A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON OUR STREET. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A DUPLEX OR MAYBE EVEN A TRICKY, A CHEEKY TRIPLEX . HOWEVER, AS IT STANDS, A MAJORITY OF THE HOUSES, UH, ON OUR STREET MAINTAIN NUMEROUS CARS PER HOUSEHOLD AND THIS PROJECT WOULD ALLOW THREE PARKING SPACES FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS NEARBY. IDZ DEVELOPMENT LIKE KUNSTLER BREWING ALREADY HAS THE JUNCTION PACKED WITH STREET PARKING A VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME. WHILE I DON'T BELIEVE IN A FULL 1.5 SPOTS PER DWELLING, I DO BELIEVE ON OUR STREET IT IS VITAL TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF ONE PARKING SPOT PER DWELLING UNIT. CROWDED STREET PARKING ALREADY EXISTS AND WILL IMPACT WASTE COLLECTION AND OUR ABILITY TO NAVIGATE EASILY AND SAFELY. I WISH WE LIVED IN A WALKABLE CITY THAT DIDN'T REQUIRE CARS, BUT IT IS. BUT IT IS UTTERLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO EXPECT THIS SITUATION. IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR WHERE IT'S LOCATED. A DUPLEX OR A TRIPLEX WITH ADEQUATE PARKING IS REALISTIC. NO LOT ON THIS STREET MAINTAINS SUCH HIGH DENSITY WITH SUCH LOW PARKING. THAT IS MY MAIN CONCERN. IF THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING, UH, AT LEAST TO ONE SPOT PER DWELLING, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA AND FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT IF IT IS NOT, THEN IT WILL BE INADEQUATE FOR THIS SPACE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, THERE IS NOT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE. UM, SO IT IS TO ME, UH, I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMENDED SITE PLAN. I HAVE A NUMBER OF INQUIRIES I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE OF THE APPLICANT AS THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT. HOWEVER, I CANNOT DO THAT. I AM GOING TO MOVE AND SO MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE APRIL 15TH MEETING. SECOND. ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE, UH, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO THE APRIL 15TH MEETING BY ME WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. CHAIR BUSANTE AYE. COMMISSIONER WATSON? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER OSA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. ITEM PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE [Approval of Minutes  ] FINAL ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 18TH, 2025 ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES. ANY CHANGES? ADDITIONS, SUBTRACTIONS. SEEING NONE. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. UH, WHO WAS THE SECOND? SORRY, COMMISSIONER. UH, BOTTLES. OKAY. PERFECT. ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER WATSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. UH, WE WILL DO THIS VOTE BY ACCLAMATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. OKAY. UH, MOTION CARRIES. MINUTES ARE APPROVED. IS THERE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO, THERE IS NOT. ALRIGHT, GIVEN THAT AND THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT THE TIME OF 2 44. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.