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LET'S CALL THE WEDNESDAY, APRIL 9TH, 2025.
WOULD STAFF PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ.
CAN WE HAVE THE SPANISH ENGLISH INTERPRETER? PLEASE? COULD.
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HAVE TWO AGENDAS.UM, CASES THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CASES WHERE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY DETAILED DISCUSSION, AND NOBODY HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE HEARD IN ONE MOTION.
THE REST OF THE AGENDA WILL BE ON THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA, AND THOSE CASES WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY PRIOR TO TAKING ACTION.
SO THE WAY IT LOOKS TO ME RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE, I, SO COMMISSIONER BUSANTE IS GONNA RECUSE FROM ITEMS TWO AND THREE, SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE ROOM DURING THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, SO, UH, FOR THE RECORD, IT IS 2 0 3.
COMMISSIONER BUSANTE IS LEFT THE MEETING.
SO ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW, I HAVE ITEMS 14, 15, AND 16.
IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT STAFF HAS? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, BEFORE, UH, DOING ANYTHING ON CONSENT, WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL BEFORE ITEM 13, AND BEFORE WE PLAY THAT VOICEMAIL, I'M GOING TO LIMIT THE, UH, TIME TODAY TO TWO MINUTES.
THIS IS MS. FELGER AT TWO OH SIX SIMON STREET, TELEPHONE NUMBER (757) 927-1036.
I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO PLAN AMENDMENT CASE NUMBER ENDING IN 0 1 9.
THE ADDRESS IS 3 0 1 EAST FIFTH STREET.
I OPPOSE THE PLAN AMENDMENT CHANGE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE OF THE RISK OF THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY, AS THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ZONED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE.
I ALSO OPPOSE REZONING BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL DI DECREASE IN OUR PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE THIS CHANGE ALLOWS FOR INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND INCREASED DENSITY.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF A, A FOURPLEX WAS TO BE ERECTED, THIS CHANGE WOULD LEAVE TO AN INCONSISTENCY WITH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE OVERALL INTEGRITY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THERE IS NO MORE VOICEMAILS? CORRECT.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, I THINK THERE'S A SPEAKER ACTUALLY FOR, OH, IT'S THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM 13.
WE GOT THAT CLEARED UP, SO WE'RE GOOD.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE I COMMISSIONER SIEGEL AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.
UH, STAFF, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL.
CAN SOMEONE LET COMMISSIONER BUSANTE KNOW THAT HE IS WELCOME BACK IN THE MEETING? IT IS 2 0 6
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AND COMMISSIONER BUS BUSANTE IS REENTERED THE MEETING AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14.ITEM 14 IS ACTUALLY ASKING FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE APRIL, UH, 23RD MEETING, BUT WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT WITH, UH, SPEAKER SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND VOICEMAILS.
SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL LISTEN TO THE VOICEMAILS, THE SPEAKERS, AND THEN, UH, DO THEY HAVE TO MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST AT THE PODIUM OR ARE WE JUST GONNA GO? THAT'S THE MOTION TO HANG YOU.
YOU CAN ACCEPT MY PRESENTATION.
ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'LL LISTEN TO THE VOICEMAILS.
LEE, I'M CALLING, UM, I LIVE OFF BEACON CREEK.
I'M CALLING ABOUT THE PLANNING CASE NUMBER PA 2025 DASH 1 1 6 0 0 0 0 2 1.
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UH, I'M CALLING IN AN OPINION TO, UM, OPPOSE THE TANK CONVERTING OF THE MOTEL SIX INTO SHORT-TERM HOUSING.UM, THEY CAME TO OUR, UM, A HARMONY HILLS MEETING THAT I WAS INVITED TO.
AND, UM, I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT HAD THEY CONTACTED NORTHEAST INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IF FAMILIES ARE GOING TO BE LIVING IN THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, MOTEL SIX THAT'S BEING RE OR CITY OF SIX, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S BEING, UM, TURNED INTO, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, THOSE CHILDREN ARE GONNA NEED TO GET TO SCHOOL AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVEN, UH, FAR ENOUGH A WAY FOR THEM TO GET A BUS, UM, OR IF THEY WOULD HAVE TO WALK, BUT IF THEY HAVE TO WALK, THEY HAVE TO WALK THROUGH INDUSTRIAL, UM, SETTING, WHICH IS JUST, IT'S NOT, IT, IT DOESN'T FEEL SAFE OVER THERE, UM, FOR CHILDREN TO BE WALKING BY THEMSELVES AND IF THERE'S A BUS, UM, THE BUS ROUTE WOULD HAVE TO MOST LIKELY COME DOWN, UH, NACOMA AND AS IT PASSES THROUGH TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT COMPLEX, IT WOULD BE PASSING RIGHT BY THAT PORN ADULT, UM, BUSINESS RIGHT THERE.
UM, IT'S JUST NOT AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS CONDUCIVE FOR CHILDREN, UM, OR FAMILIES.
AND MY CONCERN WOULD BE WHAT WOULD THOSE KIDS DO, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER.
UM, THERE, THERE'S NOTHING AROUND THERE FOR THEM TO GO TO.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO GROCERY STORES FOR THEM TO GO GET, UM, SNACKS OR ANYTHING BESIDES THAT LITTLE CORNER STORE.
AND IT JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO SHOVE SOME FAMILIES WHO ARE MAYBE TRYING TO, TO WORK THEIR WAY UP, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IMPROVE THEIR LIST IN REGARDS TO PLANNING CASE, UH, HASHTAG CAPITAL LETTER PA DASH 2025 DASH 1 1 6 0 0 0 2 1.
IN REGARDS TO THE STUDIO SIX REZONING, UH, MY NAME'S ARMANDO MORA.
PHONE NUMBER IS (562) 282-8049.
I LIVE AT, UH, 1 25 WEST SILVER SAND DRIVE.
I'M AGAINST THE PLANNING BECAUSE I DON'T FIND IT TO BE SAFE, ESPECIALLY FOR CHILDREN IN THAT AREA.
CONSIDERING WHAT HAPPENED CURRENTLY IN ON RHAPSODY IN REGARDS TO THE DRUGS BEING SOLD OR THE PANHANDLING THAT HAPPENED ON THAT CORNER, SITCO MARKET OR LIQUOR STORE OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, GAS STATION AND NOTHING BUT TROUBLE GOES ON, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT BECAUSE I LIVE ON WHAT SILVER SANDS AND I CAN HEAR THE DRAG RACING ON THE BACKSIDE OF, ON RHAPSODY AT NIGHT, AND I'M ALWAYS HEARING ALARMS GOING OFF FOR THOSE BUSINESSES BACK THERE AS IT IS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD OR FEASIBLE IDEA.
AND ALSO THERE IS NOWHERE FOR CHILDREN TO PLAY IN THAT AREA, LET ALONE A MARKET IN THE VICINITY FOR AT LEAST FOUR MILES.
SO I THINK IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
TERMS AND OPINION ON PA 2 0 5 1 1 6 0 0 0 2 1.
MY NAME IS DENNIS KIRSCH, K-I-R-S-C-H.
MY ADDRESS IS 1 1 7 1 2 PERSUASION DRIVE SAN ANTONIO.
UH, THE REASON I'M CALLING IS TO EXPRESS MY OPINION ABOUT THE REZONING OF VOTES.
BILL SIX, UH, ON 2 81 FROM UH, C3 TO MF 50.
UH, I AM OPPOSED TO THE REZONING BECAUSE IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND A WORSE LOCATION FOR MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING THAN THAT.
UH, IT'S, IT'S A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT BASICALLY IT'S, IT'S TOTALLY UNFIT FOR LONG-TERM OCCUPANCY.
IT'S FINE FOR A MOTEL, BUT NOT FOR LONG-TERM OCCUPANCY.
IT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY A BUSINESS INDUSTRIAL PARK ON THREE SIDES, AND OF COURSE IT'S FACING HIGHWAY 2 81 ON THE, ON THE, UH, HORSE SIDE.
IT'S ADJACENT TO THE AIRPORT CLEAR ZONE, RIGHT ADJACENT TO IT, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE.
AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, REALLY FAR AWAY FROM ANY SCHOOLS AS FAR AS FAR AWAY FROM ANY SHOPPING, NO RECREATION AREAS, AND IT'S BASICALLY UNFIT TO LIVE IN.
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I WOULD NEVER LIVE IN A PLACE LIKE THAT.UH, IT'S INADEQUATE FOR HAVING MORE THAN TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE TINY, UH, FACILITIES.
THEY'RE ONLY 360 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS CERTAINLY NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR A FAMILY OR A FAMILY WITH KIDS.
PLUS IT'S DANGEROUS WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THE AIRCRAFT, ALL THE NOISE, THERE'S NO WAY THAT ANYBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANNA LIVE IN THAT KIND OF PLACE, EXCEPT MAYBE IF IT WERE FREE.
IT'S AN ADEQUATE, ESPECIALLY WITH CHILDREN, I WOULD NEVER HAVE A CHILD IN THAT AREA.
IT'S A TERRIBLE LOCATION FOR HUMAN HABITATION BECAUSE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH SAFETY AND NOISE HAZARDS.
IT'S JUST DIFFICULT TO, HELLO, MY NAME IS ELLEN BOYER.
WE LIVE AT ONE ONE FIVE ONE ONE COURT.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 215-2144.
I'M CALLING ABOUT PLANNING CASE PA 2 0 2 5 1 1 6 0 0 0 0 2 1.
REGARDING THE MOTEL SIX EXTENDED STAY ZONING CHANGE, I WANT TO STATE VERY CLEARLY THAT WE ARE 100% AGAINST THIS ZONING CHANGE.
OUR FAMILY HAS BEEN HOMEOWNERS IN THE HARMONY HILLS ENCHANTED FOREST AREA FOR 25 YEARS.
WE BELIEVE OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ACTUALLY BEING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ACTUALLY BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.
WITH THIS ZONING CHANGE PROPOSAL, RESIDENTS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE, CLEAN, AND TO HELP BUILD A COMMUNITY WHERE FAMILIES WANNA LIVE AND RAISE THEIR CHILDREN.
OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE WATCHED THE ENTIRE AREA AROUND US ERODE AND BEEN AND BECOME SURROUNDED BY LOW INCOME HOUSING.
WE DON'T NEED OR WANT ANY MORE OF IT.
THIS HAS HAD A DIRECT EFFECT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES, OUR SCHOOLS, AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE ALREADY HAVE THE APARTMENTS ON SAHARA, WHERE TREND AUA RECENTLY TOOK OVER THE APARTMENTS BEHIND HEV AT WEST AVENUE AND BLANCO, WHICH CHANGED DRAMATICALLY AFTER HURRICANE KATRINA AND MORE RECENTLY THE NEW ONES ON INNER PARK STOP ALREADY THAT THE ROADS ARE PROPERTY VALUES AND CRIME INCREASES.
WE DEAL WITH ENOUGH PROPERTY AND VEHICLE CRIME AS IT IS.
I KNOW PERSONALLY THREE BUSINESS OWNERS ON RHAPSODY WHO CONSTANTLY DEAL WITH CRIME AT THEIR BUSINESSES, INCLUDING THEFT, TAGGING, VANDALISM.
I'M SURE THE OTHER BUSINESSES ON THE COMA AND ALL THE OTHERS ON RHAPSODY, ALL IN THE AREA DEAL WITH THE SAME ISSUES.
WE ALSO KNOW A LOT OF DRUG ACTIVITY OCCURS IN THE MOTEL SIX LOCATION, AND THAT MOST LIKELY WILL NOT CHANGE.
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH LOW INCOME HOUSING IN OUR AREA FOR SURE, AND IN SAN ANTONIO, WE DON'T HAVE NEED ANYMORE OR WANT ANYMORE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN LOW INCOME HOUSING WILL COMMIT CRIMES, BUT WE ALL KNOW, INCLUDING I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER PA 2 0 2 5 DASH 1 1 6 0 0 0 2 1.
THE PROPERTY AT 1 1 2 2 1 SAN PEDRO AVENUE.
I LIVE ON SANDMAN STREET IN HARMONY HILLS.
I ALSO OWN A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON RHAPSODY DRIVE IN BEACON HILL INDUSTRIAL PARK.
THE BUSINESS PARK IS COMPRISED OF CLASS B BUILDINGS THAT ARE MOSTLY OWNER OPERATED WITH MANY OWNERS OR EMPLOYEES LIVING NEARBY IN HARMONY HILLS.
I OPPOSE THIS PLAN AMENDMENT AND ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
I WAS APPOINTED TO THE GREATER AIRPORT AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN COMMITTEE.
THIS COMMITTEE WAS COMPRISED OF CITY STAFF, PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS AND CONSULTANTS AND AREA STAKEHOLDERS.
WE MET FOR 18 MONTHS TO CONSIDER THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR PROPERTIES IN THIS REGION.
WE RECENTLY CONCLUDED OUR WORK AND OFFERED IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THIS PLAN WILL BEGIN THE ADOPTION PROCESS SOON.
UNTIL THEN, THE AREA LAND USE MUST BE EVALUATED BY THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY PLAN.
THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED SEA BUSINESS, WHICH IS AN OUTLIER IN THIS INDUSTRIAL PARK.
IT FRONTS ON A MAJOR HIGHWAY WITH THE ONLY ENTRANCE, THE ACCESS ROAD TO US HIGHWAY 2 81.
IT IS SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL ZONING INCLUDING OUTDOOR STORAGE, METAL BUILDINGS, MACHINERY, CONSTRUCTION, CRANES AND AIRCRAFT REPAIR, THE VERY DEFINITION OF INDUSTRIAL, LOUD, DUSTY TRUCK TRAFFIC, BARBED WIRE SECURITY FENCING.
THE PROPERTY IS NOT, IS IN THE FLIGHT PATH OF THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND IS SUBJECT TO NOISE CONTOUR MONITORING.
HI, MY NAME'S JENNIFER BERGNER.
UM, MY ADDRESS IS 1 2 5 WEST SILVER SANDS DRIVE,
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UH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 6.I LIVE IN THE HARMONY HILLS, UH, CONDOMINIUM.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I DO NOT FIND THE LOW INCOME HOUSING PROJECT SAFE FOR KIDS AND FAMILY CONSIDERING THE CRIME THAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING IN THIS AREA.
I'D JUST LIKE TO LEAVE A MESSAGE SAYING THAT I AM STRONGLY AGAINST THE, THE LOW INCOME HOUSING.
UM, THE PROJECT NUMBER, I BELIEVE I HAVE NUMBER PA DASH 2 25 1 1 6 0 21.
UM, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT.
GENDER ITEM IS FOR THE REZONING OF THE EXTENDED STAY AT RHAPSODY IN 2 81.
UM, AGENDA, UM, CASE NUMBER ENDING IN TWO ONE.
THIS IS MARY ANN PARKS, 4 0 3 FANTASIA SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE SIX.
THE, THE PROJECT WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR THE FAMILIES WHO WOULD BE EXPECTED TO LIVE THERE, THAT THERE IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND DANGEROUS TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
MOREOVER, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT SUITABLE FOR SUCH A REZONING.
AND WE OWN A BUSINESS AT 2 0 2 BRANIFF DRIVE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO PLANNING CASE NUMBER PA 2 0 2 5 1 1 6 0 0 0 2 1.
UH, AND I'M, UM, CALLING BECAUSE WE ARE DEFINITELY IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING CHANGE FROM NOVEMBER 24TH, 2024 TO MARCH 31ST, 2025.
THERE HAVE BEEN 14 THEFTS, ONE FIREARM DISCHARGE, TWO PERSON WANTED PERSON ARRESTS, TWO NARCOTIC, UH, ARRESTS, TWO PROSTITUTION ARRESTS.
UM, THIS LOCATION IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO ANY FAMILY RESIDENCE OR MUCH LESS A LONG TERM HOTEL, WHICH ATTRACTS LOW INCOME PEOPLE.
UH, THESE ARE STATS THAT ARE FACTS AND CAN BE FOUND THROUGH THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE.
UM, AND ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NO FAMILIES BE EXPOSED TO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY WHERE CHILDREN ARE CONCERNED.
IT'S NEXT TO THE AIRPORT RUNWAY, WHICH IS EXTREMELY LOUD.
THERE'S NO PARK, NO, NO, UM, AREA FOR CHILDREN TO EVEN PLAY AT UNLESS THEY, UH, OR TEENAGERS GO BEHIND THE HOTEL AND, UM, JUST HANG OUT IN THE INDUSTRIAL CENTER.
AND OUR BUSINESS WAS BROKEN INTO BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2024, UH, WHERE DAMAGE WAS DONE TO THE BUILDING AND MOTORCYCLES WERE STOLEN.
SO, UM, THAT'S OUR CONCERN AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I LIVE AT 1 1 5 1 5, UH, SIARA COURT 7 8 2 1 6, AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE CASE, UH, ENDING IN 0 0 2 1.
UH, TO VOICE MY, UM, OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT REQUEST, THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK IT'S A LOSE LOSE SITUATION FOR BOTH PARTIES.
IT WAS ZONED THAT WAY FOR A REASON AND IT, UH, THAT BUSINESS HAS NOT DONE WELL THERE FOR A REASON.
AND, UH, THAT'S, IT'S RIGHT BY THE AIRPORT FLIGHT, FLIGHT PLAN.
THEY FLY OVER THERE AND THERE'S NOTHING ANYWHERE ON EITHER SIDE.
UH, THEY'RE NOT CLOSE TO ANYTHING.
THE STREET HERE, RHAPSODY IS VERY BUSY ALL THE TIME.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVE FAST ON IT.
IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO ANYBODY WALKING THAT WAY.
UM, JUST, JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT FOR EITHER PARTY FOR FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
I THINK THAT WAS ALL THE VOICEMAILS CORRECT.
UH, WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE.
CAN I HAVE A COMMENT? CAN I HAVE A COMMENT? COMMENT? WE'LL DO COMMENTS AFTER PUBLIC INPUT.
UH, FIRST PERSON IS JERRY PETERS.
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THANK YOU.NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, JERRY PETERS, I LIVE AT SIX 12 STRINGS DRIVE, ENCHANTED VILLAGE CONDOMINIUMS. I'VE LIVED THERE 35 YEARS AND I'M OPPOSED TO THIS CHANGE OF ZONING.
IT'S BEEN A PROBLEMATIC, UH, HOTEL.
I KNOW WHEN I ORGANIZED A, A PARTY, I, UM, A BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR MY HUSBAND.
I HAD THAT SPECIFIC HOTEL AND THEY HAD, UH, MY RELATIVES HAD TO MOVE.
UH, THEY WERE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
OF COURSE, THAT'S BEEN ALMOST, YOU KNOW, UH, 15 YEARS AGO.
UM, I AM AGAINST IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE FOR CHILDREN.
IT'S NOT SAFE FOR FAMILIES TO, IT'S HIGH TRAFFIC.
BRANIFF AVENUE IS THE LITTLE STREET THAT GO AND IT GOES TWO WAYS.
MOST OF THE ACCESS ROAD STREETS ARE ONE WAY.
THERE IS THE BUS THAT COMES BY THERE.
IT'S, IT'S JUST TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. AND THEN THE NOISE I'VE LIVED IN 35 YEARS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DO KNOW ABOUT THE RATTLING.
I'VE REPLACED MY WINDOWS BECAUSE OF THE EFFECT OF THE, OF THE, UH, PLANE.
AND LITTLE BABIES, UH, EARS WOULD BE DAMAGED IN THAT SITUATION.
AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO PARK OR NO PLACE TO, UH, TO GO, OR NO GROCERY STORE, NO ENTERTAINMENT.
THERE IS A, UM, A VALERO IS THE ONLY THING THERE.
AND THEN THE PORNOGRAPHY SHOP, THAT IS NOT A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.
NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE THERE.
UH, WHETHER THEY'RE LONG INCOME OR HIGH INCOME AND PERMANENT, UH, APARTMENTS IS NOT THE SOLUTION.
YOU'RE JUST GONNA STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
I LIVE AT, UH, 11 7 14 RAINDROP, UH, A LITTLE OVER A MILE FROM THE SITE IN QUESTION.
UH, I COME TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CHANGE, UH, FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS, AND YOU'VE HEARD THEM BEFORE.
EVERYBODY'S ALREADY STATED THEM IN THE, IN THE, UH, RECORDED MESSAGES.
UM, THERE'S THAT CLOSE PROXIMITY TO 2 81.
UH, WE LIVE A MILE AWAY AND WE COULD HEAR THE NOISE FROM THE ROAD IN SAN PEDRO THAT FAR AWAY.
UH, THERE'S LOTS OF COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC FROM, UH, SMALL VANS, PANEL WAGONS, 18 WHEELERS, EVERY KIND OF VEHICLE THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE GOING BACK AND FORTH INTO THOSE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S WITHIN THE AIRPORT NOISE CONTOUR.
WE ARE ACTUALLY IN THE 65% NOISE CONTOUR.
UH, THAT FACT BEING A FACT, THEY THE, UH, GOT OUR WINDOWS AND DOORS REPLACED TO ABATE THE NOISE SO THAT WE WOULDN'T SUE THE AIRPORT BECAUSE OF NOISE.
SO THAT WAS BEEN A FEW YEARS, AND I THINK THAT PROGRAM HAS SINCE ENDED SINCE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T FUND IT VERY OFTEN ANYMORE.
UH, SO THEY'RE O OBVIOUSLY THAT CLOSE TO THE, TO THE FLIGHT PATH.
THEY'RE GOING TO HEAR EVERYTHING COMING AND GOING.
AND IT'S NOT PLEASANT RATTLE OR DISHES DOWN THE TABLE.
UH, NO BIKE, NO NEARBY GROCERIES.
UH, THERE'S A LITTLE, THAT LITTLE SEVEN 11 WE USED TO CALL STOP AND ROB.
GROCERY STORE, UH, NO PARKS, NO.
UH, CLOSELY AVAILABLE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES FOR ADULTS, CHILDREN, UH, WELL, NORMAL ADULTS, UNLESS YOU WANNA CONSIDER THE ADULT VIDEO PLACE, UH, HEAVY.
UH, IT'S REALLY NOT A GOOD LOCATION FOR YOUNG FAMILIES.
NO, NO PLACE FOR THEM TO PLAY UNLESS THEY'VE GOT A POCKET FULL OF MARBLES AND THEY GO OUT IN THE PARKING LOT AND START PLAYING MARBLES.
UH, LAST PERSON TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM IS, LOOKS LIKE MONTGOMERY HOWARD.
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STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.ALRIGHT, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
I LIVE AT 1410 GRAY OAK IN SAN ANTONIO.
UH, WE LIVE ACTUALLY IN THE OAK PARK TERRACE AREA, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO HARMONY HILLS.
UH, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENT.
WELL, FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO APPRECIATE STAFF FOR THEIR HELP IN GETTING US SIGNED IN OUTSIDE.
I DON'T THINK THEY GET VERY MANY KUDOS FOR WHAT THEY DO, BUT I'D LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THAT.
UM, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENT ABOUT COMMUNITY ISSUES SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY AND ITS PROPOSED CHANGE IN USE AND CHANGE IN ZONING.
UH, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK MORE TO SOME OTHER TERTIARY ASPECTS OF IT.
ONE OF 'EM, UH, WHICH, UH, GARY GIBBONS TOUCHED ON THAT HAD TO DO WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE OR UNRESOLVED ISSUES WITH THIS PROXIMITY TO THE AIRPORT.
UH, MY PARTICULAR TAKE ON THIS IS THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW AS A HOTEL, UH, IS A NON-CONFORMING USE ON THE WAY THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RIGHT NOW.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW OVERLAY ON IT THAT'S RESPONDING TO PLANNING POLICIES THAT THE CITY HAS ADOPTED THAT SAYS THE FIRST BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT GOES ON DIRECTLY AROUND IT.
UH, I THINK THE REZONING TO A PERMANENT REZONING TO A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS AN INAPPROPRIATE USE FOR IT BECAUSE OF THOSE PROXIMITIES.
NUMBER ONE, THE AIRPORT NUMBER TWO TO THE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT SURROUND IT.
AND NUMBER THREE, THE POLICIES THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY SET FOR HOW THE CITY BELIEVES THAT THIS PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE USED MOVING FORWARD.
UH, WE HAVE NOT HEARD A COMPELLING CASE FOR THIS REUSE OF THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS TOLD TO US TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THEN THE LOW INCOME HOUSING PIECE CAME IN.
WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY COMPELLING STORY ABOUT WHY THAT IS A MORE APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION.
AND I OPPOSE, UH, THE, THE CHANGE IN ZONING AND THE CHANGE IN USE ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT IS ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND FOR THE RECORD, IT WAS 2 28 AND COMMISSIONER GARCIA LEFT THE MEETING.
UM, SO I, I GUESS RIGHT NOW, SO THE APPLICANT WISHES TO DO A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE, SO UNLESS EMILY, THERE'S A REASON FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT WE'LL, WE WILL ASK FOR COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER ZUKI.
UH, YEAH, THANKS FOR, UH, COMING IN TODAY TO SPEAK ABOUT, UH, THE CASE AND, UH, YOUR CONCERNS, UH, HAVE BEEN HEARD AND ALSO FOR PEOPLE ON THE PHONE, UH, ON IT TODAY.
WE STILL HAVE TODAY TWO WEEKS CONTINUOUS.
MY COMMENTS THROUGH THE STAFF HAVE BEEN ALWAYS QUESTIONING, UH, THE MALES THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING.
THEY NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT TO COME TO THE MEETINGS.
UH, BUT TODAY IS A TESTIMONY THAT, UH, ALMOST ALL THE PHONE CALLS AND THE PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED, UH, SEEMS TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET CIRCLE.
I'VE BEEN GETTING THE MAIL, SO IT'S, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE MAIL IS BEING DELIVERED.
SO THIS IS JUST A, SOMETHING I'VE BEEN, UH, ALWAYS ASKED, BUT TODAY IS, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THE MAIL IS BEING DELIVERED.
BUT I WILL GIVE KUDOS TO GREATER HARMONY HILLS.
THEY'RE A VERY, UH, ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THEY DEFINITELY KEEP THEIR, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS INVOLVED, SO KUDOS TO THEM TOO.
UM, COMMISSIONER MOON, WELL, I'LL JUST MAKE THE COMMENT THAT, UM, WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO SAN SAN ANTONIO, I LIVED ON TAMMY DRIVE, AND THERE IS NO WAY I CAN IMAGINE PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS SPACE.
SO TWO WEEKS ISN'T GONNA MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE FOR MY VOTE.
ANY ANY QUESTIONS DOWN THERE? COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YEAH.
UM, I'M READY TO VOTE NO ON THIS RIGHT NOW.
THIS, I, I I OFFICE A QUARTER MILE FROM THIS PLACE.
IT IS A ATROCIOUS TO IMAGINE ANYBODY EVER LIVING THERE.
IT IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, COUNTLESS STONE CUTTING PLACES, METAL FABRICATION, SIGN FABRICATION.
THIS, THERE, THERE'S, THIS IS THE WORST PLACE FOR ANYBODY EVER TO LIVE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT, SEE HOW THAT TURNS OUT IF ANYONE'S OPPOSED TO IT.
SO WAS THAT A FORMAL MOTION? YEAH, I MOVED TO, UH, SECOND.
WELL, WE HAVE A FORMAL MOTION FOR DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ORIAN.
I HEARD A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM, WHICH THAT PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL.
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FIRST OF ALL, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.IF THERE WON'T BE, IF THERE WON'T BE A CONTINUANCE CONSIDERED AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS BEFORE THIS ITEM IS HEARD.
EMILY, YOU CAN JUST START OVER NUMBER TWO.
EMILY WEISS WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FERMAN.
UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
WE ARE REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE.
WE HAVE ALREADY MET, UM, WITH BUSINESS PARK OWNERS, NEIGHBORS WITHIN HARMONY HILLS, THE BOARD SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL UPCOMING MEETINGS AND WE'D LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, FOLKS INVOLVED WITH THIS WITH DIFFERENT INTERESTS, AGAIN, BUSINESS OWNERS, RESIDENTS, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO WE'D LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO ADDRESS SOME CONCERNS, UM, AND CONTINUE OUR WORK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY BEFORE BRINGING THIS FORWARD AT A LATER DATE, IF AT ALL.
UM, BUT GIVEN ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, UM, I WILL, CAN I DO THAT? YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD.
OH, SORRY, I WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG SCREEN.
UM, AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS AT 11 2 21 SAN PEDRO.
UM, THIS IS THE STUDIO SIX, UM, EXTENDED STAY HOTEL.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY 117 ROOMS ON SITE, UM, AND THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN LAND USE, AND AGAIN, THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN ZONING, UM, IS TO FACILITATE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
UM, OUR CLIENT, GOOD HOMES COMMUNITIES FOCUSES ON ADAPTIVE REUSE OF EXISTING HOSPITALITY AND SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, UM, ALL ACROSS THE NATION.
THEY HAVE PROJECTS IN BALTIMORE, EL PASO, UM, THEY HAVE A PROJECT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO IN THE MED CENTER.
UM, SO THEY TAKE THESE LOW OCCUPANCY, UNDERUTILIZED HOSPITALITY AND OR ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT, KIND OF DESIGNED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE, UM, THAT ARE BEING USED FOR SHORTER TERM RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND AGAIN, WITH SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE LONG-TERM RESIDENTS AS WELL.
UM, AND REHABILITATING THOSE PROPERTIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS IS A STRICTLY FULLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, UM, BETWEEN 30 AND 80% A MI FOR ALL UNITS.
UM, AND THE PROPOSED REZONING, THE REASON WE HAVE TO GO TO GO TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS TO ALLOW US TO KEEP THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS, UM, AS THERE ARE ROOMS ON SITE.
THIS SAYS A LITTLE BIT, UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE.
AND, AND PART OF THE FOCUS IN, IN PICKING UP THESE SITES IS, IS ALSO HAVING THESE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE, UM, SOME BUILT-IN AMENITIES TO THEM AS WELL.
UM, GYMNASIUMS COMMUNITY CENTERS A POOL ON THIS PROPERTY AS WELL, SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO REVITALIZE THE PROPERTY, UM, AND CREATE A COMMUNITY, A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ASPECT TO IT, UM, AND FOCUS IN ON THOSE, UM, AMENITIES THAT ALREADY EXIST.
UM, IT IS VERY HARD TO BUILD THINGS BRAND NEW THESE DAYS.
UM, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND RESOURCEFUL WAYS TO PROVIDE, UM, NEW HOUSING, WHICH WE DESPERATELY NEED IN THE CITY.
AND ADDITIONALLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH WE DESPERATELY NEED.
UM, SO THE PROPERTY IS ZONE C3 AND IT'S DESIGNATED AS BUSINESS PARK.
UM, AGAIN, WE ARE PROPOSING A REZONING TO MF 50 TO ALLOW FOR THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS AS THERE ARE ROOMS ON SITE RIGHT NOW.
UM, THIS IS, YOU CAN SEE THE PLAN DESIGNATION HERE.
UM, THIS IS, UM, JUST SOUTH OF THE CORNER OF R CITY.
UM, YOU CAN SEE AN ORANGE THAT IS A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THERE, UM, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THERE.
UM, AND LET ME ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT THERE.
UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH, UM, AND HAVE ALREADY STARTED CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AIRPORT ON THIS.
UM, THEY'RE REQUIRING A NAVIGATION EASEMENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE AND REGULARLY DO, UM, TO ADDRESS NOISE ISSUES.
UM, AND SO WE ARE IN ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH AVIATION AND THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE REASON THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS TIME ON THIS CASE.
SO WE CAN CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH AVIATION SO THAT WE ARE PREPARED, UM, AND IN CON IN COHESION WITH THE AIRPORT ON THE USE OF THIS PROPERTY AS PROPOSED.
UM, AND ANY ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS OR LIMITATIONS THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON.
UM, I HAVE ALREADY SAID ALL OF THIS.
UM, AND, AND JUST FOR ADDITIONAL CONTEXT, THIS PROJECT IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST.
THE HOUSING TRUST WOULD OWN THIS SITE.
GOOD HOMES WOULD OPERATE AND MANAGE THIS SITE.
UM, AND SO LIKE I MENTIONED, THIS IS 30 TO 80% A MI, SO NOTHING LESS THAN 30%, BUT NOTHING MORE
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THAN 80% A MI.SO, UM, THESE ARE AFFORDABLE, STRICTLY, COMPLETELY AFFORDABLE UNITS, UM, FOR THIS ENTIRE PROJECT, WHICH I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE HEARD IN ONE WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM IS REALLY HARD TO DO ON AN ENTIRE PROJECT.
THEY USUALLY HAVE A, A MIX OF, OF MARKET RATE, UM, BUILT IN.
SO IT, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT, UM, AND RARE TO BE ABLE TO DO A STRICTLY FULLY AFFORDABLE PROJECT.
UM, AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING HERE TO DO.
UM, WE HAVE, AGAIN, 117 UNITS ON SITE.
UM, THESE ARE ALL APPROXIMATELY 360 SQUARE FEET.
UM, SO THESE ARE SMALL STUDIOS SIZE APARTMENTS, UM, THAT ARE DESIGNED, UM, AND CAN BE RENOVATED FOR, FOR LONGER TERM USE.
UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN, UM, THESE ARE KIND OF SURROUNDING AREA COMPATIBILITY COHESIVENESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO PUT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, IN AND AROUND COMMUNITIES, UM, THAT PROVIDE THE ACCESS TO THAT, WHETHER THAT IS BY FOOT OR THROUGH PUBLIC TRANSIT.
SO THERE IS PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTION IN THIS AREA, UM, PLACES THAT ARE NEAR SCHOOLS.
UM, IT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE OF WHERE WE CAN PUT HOUSING IN THIS CITY.
UM, WHETHER IT IS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR OUTSIDE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT BALANCE TO FIND IT.
UM, AND SO, UM, BUT I THINK THESE ARE SOME GOOD OPTIONS.
VISTA, INNER PARK ALLURE AT ALMA HEIGHTS, UM, ALL OF THESE ARE IN AND AROUND, UM, WORKFORCE CENTERS IN THE CITY.
UM, THEY'RE NOT INSIDE, UM, EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEY'RE ADJACENT TO NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO ADJACENT TO WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, EXCUSE ME, WORKFORCE, UM, EMPLOYERS IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE PROVIDING ACCESS TO JOBS AS WELL.
UM, SO WE'RE REVITALIZING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, UM, AND CREATING, UM, A, A USE OF THIS PROPERTY THAT, THAT IS, IS REALLY STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS A COMPLETELY UNDERUTILIZED PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS QUITE FRANKLY PROVIDING VERY LITTLE BENEFIT, UM, TO, TO THE NEIGHBORS OR TO THE BUSINESSES THERE AND PROVIDING STABILITY AND LONG-TERM HOUSING HERE, UM, WITH REALLY HIGH QUALITY, UM, RENOVATIONS I THINK WOULD BE REALLY GREAT.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AGAIN, OUR, OUR RESPECTFUL REQUEST TODAY IS AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS TO ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING, BUT TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, WE WILL, BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AFTER THE, UH, PRESENTATION? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
SO IF THESE ARE GOING TO BE EXCLUSIVELY STUDIO UNITS, THEN WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY FOR A STUDIO APARTMENT? IS IT TWO PERSONS, ONE PERSON? SO THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE REQUIRES A SLEEPING AREA TO BE AT LEAST 70 SQUARE FEET FOR THE FIRST PERSON AND AN ADDITIONAL 50 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH ADDITIONAL PERSON AFTER THAT.
SO THEY WOULD BE ASSESSED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
SO IT HAS TO DO WITH FLOOR AREA AND NOT NUMBER OF ROOMS. SO YEAH, WHAT I JUST READ OFF WAS THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE FOR HOW LARGE A BEDROOM HAS TO BE, UH, OR HOW LARGE A SLEEPING AREA AS IT'S DEFINED HAS TO BE.
SO PROVIDED IT MET THOSE QUALIFICATIONS, IT WOULD BE UP, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. RORY? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UH, TO WHAT THE APPLICANT HAD MENTIONED, THE, THE MULTIFAMILY THAT'S OFF SILVER SANDS, UH, IS ACTUALLY ACCESSED MORE TO THE, TO THE SOUTH.
THERE, THERE'S AN INTERMEDIATE ROAD THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO THE ACCESS ROAD.
IT'S COMPLETELY, AND IT ALL STOPS AT RHAPSODY.
ONCE YOU GO PAST RHAPSODY, YOU ARE IN A DEEP INDUSTRIAL AREA.
YOU'RE PROBABLY THE CLOSEST PROPERTY TO THE ACTUAL LANDING STRIP OF THE AIR OF THE AIRPORT.
THIS ISN'T SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
I STILL, I CAN'T, I CAN'T GET BEHIND THIS ONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT AND JUST SAY THAT I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HOUSING ANYBODY IN THAT SPACE AND, AND TO THINK THAT THAT'S CONSIDERED A, A POSITIVE PLACE TO HELP PEOPLE GET A LEG UP.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER ORIAN ON THE TABLE, AND I BELIEVE THE SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER MILAM.
WOULD STAFF PLEASE DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
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CARRIES FOR DENIAL.UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 15.
ITEM 15 IS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE APRIL 23RD MEETING.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, RIGHT? THERE'S NOBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
ANY DISCUSSION OR A MOTION? I MOVE TO GRANT THE CONTINUANCE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO GRANT THE CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM.
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
BE BENAVIDEZ PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE GUADALUPE WEST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE.
LOCATED AT 1 3 3 3 BUENA VISTA STREET.
THERE WERE 19 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.
HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE TO REZONE TO IDZ TWO.
MEDIUM INTENSITY AND FIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
A TATTOO PARLOR WAREHOUSING WINERY WITH BOTTLING COFFEE ROASTING AND FOOD PRODUCTS, WHOLESALE AND STORAGE.
THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM C COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO IDZ TWO.
MEDIUM INTENSITY AND FILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TATTOO PARLOR WAREHOUSING WINE WINERY WITH BOTTLING COFFEE ROASTED AND FOOD PRODUCTS, WHOLESALE AND STORAGE.
THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IS CURRENTLY BEING USED TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE REQUESTED USES THAT ARE PERMITTED UNDER THE CURRENT ZONE.
THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE COMPLIMENTS THE EXISTING COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND LOW DENSITY MIXED USE LAND USES, USES AND OFFERS MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR DIFFERENT LAND USES.
GIVEN THAT THE SURROUNDING AREA IS COMPRISED OF A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION, STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS IN THE AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REP AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? MAY I APPROACH? MM-HMM
MM-HMM
HI, MY NAME IS JENNIFER NAGER.
I CURRENTLY LIVE SEVEN 14 NORTH PINE STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
OUR BUILDING IS AT 1333 BUENA VISTA.
AND TODAY I'D JUST LIKE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US.
OUR, OUR CURRENTLY AS WELL AS OUR PREVIOUS, OUR CURRENT AS WELL AS PREVIOUS TENANTS AND WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US AROUND 2010, TIRED OF PAYING EXCESSIVE STIFLING RENTS FOR MY SMALL BUSINESS IN UNINSPIRING INDUSTRIAL PARKS.
OUR CLOSE FRIEND AND THIRD GENERATION WESTSIDER AND CHAIRMAN OF PROSPER WEST FOR MANY YEARS SUGGESTED WE LOOK ON THE WEST SIDE.
SO WE DID, WE FOUND OUR HOME IN BUSINESS, EVEN IN ITS POORLY MAINTAINED, ALMOST DILAPIDATED STATE.
THIS PREVIOUS OLD SEWING FACTORY, WE FELT IT WOULD BE WORTH THE TIME AND EFFORT IT HAD AND HAS A HAPPY, WARM FEELING FROM THE MOMENT YOU WALK IN THE DOOR WITH ALL THE LIGHT.
I INSTANTLY FOUND IT MYSELF TO BE INSPIRING AND CREATIVE.
WE WANTED TO ESTABLISH A PLACE FOR SMALL ENTREPRENEURS LIKE MYSELF THAT WAS AFFORDABLE AND THAT THE WEST SIDE COULD BE PROUD OF.
AND THESE YOUNG FLEDGLING BUSINESSES COULD BE PROUD, AS PROUD OF AS THEIR CREATIVE SPACE AND CREATE ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR THIS SPECIAL SIDE OF OUR CITY.
WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT.
THE TENANTS ARE PROUD TO BE IN THIS BUILDING AND CALL IT THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS.
TODAY I AM ASKING FOR ZONING TO BE CHANGED FROM I ONE TO IDZ TWO WITH CONDITIONAL USE SO THAT THE BUILDING CAN BE MORE ACCESSIBLE AND DIVERSIFIED TO THE WEST SIDE IN A BEAUTIFUL SETTING AND GOOD TASTE OCCUPANTS.
AS A SMALL BUSINESS OURSELVES TRYING TO STAY, STAY IN BUSINESS, WE NEED THE ZONING CHANGE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE MORE TENANT OPTIONS.
WE CONTINUALLY WORK TO ATTRACT SMALL, DIVERSE, UNIQUE, AND SUCCESSFUL SPAWN BUSINESSES.
THAT BEING SAID, EXCUSE ME, SPECIFICALLY, OUR CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST INCLUDES A SMALL BOUTIQUE WINERY AND ALSO TATTOO ARTIST.
THE BUILDING HAS A HISTORY AND A PRESENT, A STORY TO TELL OF HARD WORK, PROUD, DEPENDABLE WORKFORCE AND A WORTHWHILE PURPOSE.
WHILE NOT A GLAMOROUS OFFICE, AS SOME BUILDINGS ARE IN THE CITY ARE SAYS DIGNITY WITH
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ENTREPRENEURSHIP, ALL THE OCCUPANTS ARE SKILLED IN A WAY THAT MAKES THEM UNIQUE.AND MANY ARE ARTISTS IN THEIR OWN WAY OF EXPRESSION AND THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO MAKE IT THEIR LIVELIHOOD FROM THEIR GARAGE TO THEIR FIRST SPACE IN BUSINESS.
WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE BEEN THE PARENTS TO THOSE DREAMS AND WANT TO CONTINUE HELPING THOSE FULFILL THEIR DREAMS IN A PLACE THAT THEY CAN AFFORD AND FEEL PROUD OF.
OUR LARGEST GOAL, WHICH SEEMS SOMETIMES AN OXYMORON, IS THAT WE FEEL THAT WE REALLY ENJOY SEEING THESE SMALL ENTREPRENEURS GROW OUT OF THEIR SPACES SO THEY CAN TAKE THEIR BUSINESS AND DREAM TO THE NEXT LEVEL, WHICH DUE TO THE SIZE OF OUR BUILDING MEANS WE OFTEN HAVE TO LET THEM GO MOVING ON AND UP.
WE ARE SAD FOR THEM TO LEAVE THAT THEY'RE STARTER US AND WATCH THEM MOVE ON TO OTHER VENUES, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
WE'RE HAPPY FOR THEM AND IT, US BEING A SMALL PART OF THAT ACCOMPLISHMENT.
UM, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN IN CHARGE, OR NOT IN CHARGE, BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH CHARLEMAGNE CHARLES ACT PARKING.
AND DUE TO, UM, THE TENANTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING SPACE THAT ARE ALLOCATED TO THEM, ACCORDING TO THE CITY, WE ONLY NEED 11 SPACES AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE 16 SPACES WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING FIVE OR SO MORE BECAUSE WE HAVE A CURRENT GREEN SPACE WHERE WE ALLOW, UH, PEOPLE TO COME OUT TO SMOKE OR HAVE CONVERSATIONS FOR FROM THE COFFEE ROASTER.
UM, WHEN WE DID CONTACT HISTORIC, THEY SENT US AN EMAIL AND THEY ORIGINALLY WERE ON BOARD WITH US WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, WHICH ARE NOT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
WHAT THEY HAD ASKED US NOT TO INCLUDE WERE LIQUOR STORE, INDOOR GAMING FACILITIES, PET CEMETERY AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK OIL, LUBE AND TUNEUP, AUTO GLASS TENTING TIRE REPAIR GAS STATIONS.
UM, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD EVER DO OR PROBABLY EVEN YELL OUT TO DO EVEN IF WE WANTED TO, WE'RE RIGHT THERE ON THE ZA CREEK.
UM, IT, IT WOULD GO STRAIGHT INTO OUR AQUIFER AND THAT'S, I'M SORT OF A SCIENCE GEEK AT HEART.
ANYWAY, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, JUST FEEL FREE TO ASK ME.
DO YOU HAVE ANY AT THIS TIME OR SHOULD I SIT DOWN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, THERE IS A COUPLE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
OH, JEANETTE RICO, SINCE YOU CUT IT TO TWO MINUTES, UH, JEANETTE RICO'S GONNA GIVE ME HER TIME AND SHE'S ALSO ON THE LIST.
HI, MY NAME IS LETICIA SANCHEZ.
MY ADDRESS IS 1710 VERA CRUZ AND I'M THE CO-CHAIR PERSON OF THE HISTORIC WEST SITE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION.
I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR ASSOCIATION IN REFERENCE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16.
OUR ASSOCIATION OPPOSES THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LAND USE CATEGORY, NOT THE ZONING.
UM, UM, AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE LAND USE CATEGORY FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS LAND USE CATEGORY IS BASED ON THE LAND USE CATEGORIES FOUND IN THE GUADALUPE WEST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2007 AND AT THE TIME HAD, UH, A LAND USE CATEGORY OF HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE.
THE LAND USE CATEGORY OF HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE IS NO LONGER A LAND USE CATEGORY IN THE 2023 UDC.
AND WE THEREFORE CONTEND THAT THIS CATEGORY SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED SINCE IT NO LONGER EXISTS.
OUR ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON ITS ESSAY TOMORROW WEST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN SINCE 2017.
IT WAS DELAYED, UH, FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, DUE TO COVID.
BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THIS PLAN AND ANTICIPATE THAT THE PLAN WILL BE ADOPTED WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
CHOOSING TO APPROVE A LAND USE CATEGORY THAT IS OBSOLETE TODAY WHEN A NEW WEST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN WILL BE ADOPTED IN LESS THAN A YEAR IS NOT GOOD PLANNING.
THE APPLICANT'S GOAL IS TO CHANGE THE CURRENT I ONE ZONING TO IDZ TWO UNDER THE CURRENT UDC, THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LAND USE CATEGORY, WHICH IS THE LAND USE CATEGORY THAT THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY HOLDS ALLOWS FOR IDZ TWO ZONING.
ACCORDING TO CITY STAFF, THEY RECOMMENDED HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE DUE TO THE USES BEING CALLED OUT UH, BY THE APPLICANT AND THE FUTURE POTENTIAL UTILIZATION OF THAT PROPERTY SHOULD THE OWNERS SELL AND NEW OWNERS WANT TO REZONE TO SOMETHING ELSE PERMITTED UNDER THAT DESIGNATION.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON A COMMUNITY PLAN THAT WILL SOON BE OBSOLETE AND DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDER INTO ACCOUNT THE IMPACT THAT THIS DECISION WILL HAVE ON THE AREA SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY.
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SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.IF THE GOAL OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON THE BEST USE OF LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT, THEN THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO USE A LAND USE CATEGORY THAT NO LONGER EXISTS IS SHORTSIGHTED.
WE ALSO OPPOSE HIS RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE APPROXIMATELY SIX YEARS AGO OUR ASSOCIATION WENT BEFORE THE ZONING COMMISSION TO OPPOSE A ZONING REQUEST THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY CITY STAFF THAT WENT AGAINST OUR COMMUNITY PLAN.
AT THAT TIME, THE CITY STAFF FOR PLANNING TESTIFIED BEFORE ZONING COMMISSION THAT COMMUNITY PLANS WERE GUIDES AND THAT CITY STAFF COULD MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT DIFFER TO THE PLANS.
TODAY WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT THE ZONING AND PLAN AMENDMENT CASES HAVE TO BE EVALUATED AGAINST THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED COMMUNITY PLAN AS IT IS THE CURRENT PLAN OF REFERENCES FOR SUCH CASES.
WHY WAS THE PLAN A GUIDE IN A PREVIOUS CASE BUT BUT MUST NOW BE ADHERED TO? IN THIS CASE? WE ASK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TAKEN TO CONSIDERATION THE CURRENT LAND USE CATEGORIES IN THE 2023 UDC AND THE FACT THAT OUR COMMUNITY PLAN WILL BE OBSOLETE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE AND VOTE TO OPPOSE THE HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE CATEGORY SINCE THE CURRENT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL CATEGORY WILL SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S SONY REQUESTS FOR IDZ TWO.
UH, THAT WAS EVERYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
SO WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND START WITH COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
WE WILL START OVER ON THE LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
THANK YOU MA SO MUCH MR. CHAIR.
ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S BEGIN WITH STAFF IF WE COULD, UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE.
IT AND I'M AFRAID STAFF THAT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO EXTRICATE THE PURELY ZONING UH, ATTRIBUTES OF THIS FROM THE MORE APPROPRIATE PLANNING ATTRIBUTES THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED TODAY.
SO I'M GONNA GO A LITTLE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS.
UH, AND I APOLOGIZE, I PREFER IT WE'RE CLEANER, BUT GIVEN THE TYPE OF USES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE ZONING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO OVERLAP SOME.
SO WITH THAT VERY LONG PREFACE, UH, LET'S BEGIN WITH, OKAY, WHAT IS THE CURRENT PLAN IN PLACE FOR THIS PROPERTY? THE CURRENT PLAN THAT IS ADOPTED IS THE GUADALUPE WEST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN.
AND SO THAT IS THE GOVERNING PLAN THAT WE MUST USE AS PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THIS CASE? THAT IS CORRECT.
THERE IS, AS MS. SANCHEZ POINTED OUT, AN UPCOMING PLAN THAT IS CORRECT AND AS MS. SANCHEZ DID SAY IT'S BEEN IN WORKS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS WORKING TO GET THIS RESOLVED AND HOPEFULLY ADOPTED WITHIN THE YEAR, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE A SET DATE.
SO IF WE WERE TO WAIT, IN YOUR ESTIMATION, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HELD TO IT, BUT IF WE WERE TO WAIT TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS CASE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR IDZ TWO ZONING, IT COULD BE AT LEAST A YEAR, IS THAT CORRECT? POTENTIALLY.
AND THE REASON YOU'RE DOING HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE FOR A PLANNING RECOMMENDATION, IS THAT CORRECT? SORRY.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I WAS USING THE RIGHT WORDS.
THE REASON THAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IDZ TWO CAN BE USED IN THE EXISTING PLAN TODAY.
IN THE EXISTING PLAN IT COULD ACTUALLY BE BOTH LOW DENSITY OR HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE.
THE, UH, COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALIGNED.
UM, SO WE WENT WITH THE HIGH DENSITY, UM, JUST BECAUSE THE UH, C TWO USES, BUT WHAT REALLY STANDS IT OUT IS THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECT.
IT IS NOT BEING REQUESTED, BUT IF THERE WAS RESIDENTS TO COME IN LATER ON, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A HIGH MULTIFAMILY USE.
UM, THAT IS BETTER SUITED FOR THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES SURROUNDING IT.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE CAN'T USE IN THE ZONING RECOMMENDATION INSTEAD OF IDZ TWO WE COULDN'T USE, UM, C TWO C TWO IS Y UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING A FEW USES AS, UH, MS. NAGER HAD SAID THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO UTILIZE USES THAT ARE ON SITE BUT THEN ALSO ALLOW OTHER USES LIKE THE TATTOO PARLOR, EXISTING TATTOO PARLOR AND EXISTING COFFEE ROASTER ALSO BRINGING IN EXISTING, UH, WAREHOUSING.
BUT ADDITIONALLY THE W THE WINERY, WE CANNOT DO UM, A MULTITUDE OF THESE ITEMS WITH THE C TWO BASE ZONING.
AND SO THAT IS WHY, BUT THAT IS WHY THE IDZ WAS CREATED, UM, BY CITY COUNCIL
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TO ALLOW UM, ADDITIONAL USES MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THESE INTERIOR AREAS FOR HOPEFULLY MORE DEVELOPMENT.SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, COFFEE ROASTING IS INDUSTRIAL USE, CORRECT? IT IS A CONSIDERED A LOW INTENSE INDUSTRIAL USE? CORRECT.
WHICH I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN UDC.
SO PROFESSOR, THAT'S SOMETHING I YOU MIGHT WANNA TAKE NOTE OF.
UM, BUT UM, IN ANY EVENT, AND SO IN ORDER TO PULL DOWN THOSE USES FOR THE ZONING THE, AND LOOKING AT THE CURRENT USES IN PLACE, ONE HAS TO USE AN IDZ IN THIS CASE? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIR.
COMMISSIONER BUS MARDI, COMMISSIONER OREN.
ALRIGHT, SO MY QUESTION IS, IS UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU COULD DO A LOW DENSITY, UH, AND STILL ALLOW IDZ TWO, IS THAT CORRECT? IT ALLOWS ALL ID ZS.
SO IS, IS THERE ANY, AND I'M, EXCUSE ME IF I JUST WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION, BUT IS THERE A REASON WHY WE COULDN'T GO TO, TO THE LOW DENSITY? DOES THAT CAUSE ANY ISSUE WITH A PENDING ZONING CASE? NO.
UM, SO SORRY, AGAIN, UM, TYPICALLY WE JUST WAS WENT WITH THE HIGH DENSITY, UM, 'CAUSE THAT DOES PERMIT ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL, BUT IT HAS HIGHER DENSITY OF ANY RESIDENTIAL ASPECTS, SO.
AND BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO PURSUE AN IDZ TWO WITH THESE MIRED USES WHEN THE LAND USE PLAN DOES EVENTUALLY KICK IN AND POTENTIALLY CHANGE, THEY COULD IN THEORY ALTER IT AS PART OF THAT PLAN TO BACK TO WHAT THEY THINK IT SHOULD BE WITH NO EFFECT ON ANY ID IDZ TWO THAT COULD BE PASSED IN THIS SOON FUTURE? THAT IS CORRECT.
ONCE THE WEST SIDE PLAN IS ADOPTED, UM, THE LAND USE WOULD BE CHANGED TO WHAT IS ADOPTED, UM, WITH THE, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE UDC AS MS. SANCHEZ HAD STATED.
COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? NO QUESTIONS.
UM, I'M, I WANT TO, UH, EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVE COMING TO SPEAK TO US TODAY.
AND I, I I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE WOULD BE ANY, IF, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUESTED TODAY, AND THEN THE SA TOMORROW PLAN IS ADOPTED WITHIN A YEAR AS PLAN AS PLANNED, THE WEST SIDE PLAN, UM, WOULD THERE BE ANY DETRIMENTAL EFFECT TO THE, UM, SA TOMORROW WEST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN? I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED.
IF WE WERE TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT TODAY, THERE BE ANY DISADVANTAGE TO THE COMMUNITY IF WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS TODAY, KNOWING THAT THE NEW COMMUNITY PLAN IS GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE COMING YEAR? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
AGAIN, UM, AND HONESTLY, AS MS. SANCHEZ DID SAY, THESE LAND USES WERE ADOPTED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO AND THEY ARE NOT PART, AND AGAIN, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CREATED THE SA TOMORROW TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND USES.
SO THIS LAND USE SPECIFICALLY WILL IN ESSENCE GO AWAY ONCE THE WEST SIDE PLAN IS ADOPTED.
SO IF THIS WAS APPROVED NOW, IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE UPCOMING ESSAY TOMORROW WEST SIDE PLAN THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED.
IT WOULD MOST LIKELY CHANGE TO WHAT THEY WANT TO PROPOSE FOR THAT.
AND HOPEFULLY IT WOULD ALIGN WITH WHAT IF THE ZONING IS TO BE, UH, CHANGED, APPROVED.
HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
AND, AND MAKING SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING FULLY IS THAT, SO THE ONLY REASON WE'RE LOOKING AT HIGH DENSITY IS BECAUSE THE POTENTIAL RESIDENTIAL ASPECTS OF IT, BECAUSE IF IT IS CONVERTED, IT WOULD COVER THE HIGH, THE HIGH DENSITY JUST BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
IT, AGAIN, IT COULD GO EITHER WAY IF YOU PREFER TO LOW DENSITY, BUT IT, IT'S, THAT'S THEIR ZONING COULD ACCEPT BOTH OF THEM.
SO, AND GO BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IS WE CHANGE IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THE NEW PLAN THAT'S GONNA BE PASSED FOR, FOR THE WEST SIDE, BUT HOW DOES THE, DO WE KNOW HAVE ANY IDEA HOW THE WEST SIDE WILL AFFECT THEM IF IT, IF THEY KEEP WITH THIS AND THEN THEY REFORM IT TO MEET THE WEST SIDE PLAN, WILL IT HURT THEM IN THE END OR IS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CUT OFF THEIR USE GIVEN THE CHANGE
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IN DESIGNATION FROM THIS, FROM THE HIGH DENSITY TO WHATEVER THE WEST SIDE PROVIDES? I MEAN, IF THE, I HEARD YOU SAY IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THE PLAN CORRECT.OR WOULD THE PLAN AFFECT THEM NEGATIVELY FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND EVEN THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ASPECTS OF IT? SO ONCE THE PLAN IS ADOPTED, IT WILL NOT AFFECT THEIR ZONING, THEIR CURRENT ZONING.
SO EVEN IF THIS, IF THIS GOES THROUGH AND THEY GET THE ZONING, THEY STILL HAVE THAT ZONING INTACT.
UM, IF IT WASN'T TO GO THROUGH, THEY WOULD STILL STAY I ONE, UM, THOSE KIND OF ITEMS. SO NO, THE PLAN, THE PLAN WOULD NOT AFFECT THEIR EXISTING ZONING.
NOW IF A NEW OWNER OR IF THEY DECIDE TO REZONE, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO ALIGN WITH THE CURRENT, UM, LAND USE MAP AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IF EVER.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MEYER.
I'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT ASKING THIS, BUT DO WE HAVE AN IDEA YET WHAT THE REQUESTED LAND USE IS GOING TO BE? I DID ASK PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THEY MENTIONED THAT IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
AND AGAIN, THAT WILL PERMIT IDZ TWO, BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT ADOPTED, SO WE CAN'T UTILIZE IT YET.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF IT WAS GONNA BE CONGRUENT IF WE KNEW YET.
YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE HEARD THE CONFUSION THAT, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE.
UH, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO WAIT UNTIL THAT NEW ADOPTED PLAN IS AVAILABLE? CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, MA'AM? AND COMMISSIONER, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO JUST CHIME IN HERE.
IF WE DO THAT, MOVING FORWARD, DEVELOPMENT WILL STOP.
SO WE, WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS SITUATION, THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2007.
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON UPDATES TO IT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON MANY, MANY DIFFERENT OTHER ASPECTS OF OUR MASTER PLAN.
SO WE ARE PATIENTLY WAITING FOR THE UPDATES AS THEY'RE COMING THROUGH AND THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS, WHICH YOU WILL SEE WHEN WE HAVE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE IDENTIFY WHAT THE PROPOSED ADOPTED PLAN IS, AND THEY'LL HAVE A MORE RECENT UPDATE OF 20 22, 20 23, 20 24.
WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU CHIMING IN BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAN I DO, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I DON'T SEE HOW SOMEONE CAN PUT THEIR SMALL BUSINESS ON HOLD FOR SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE NEED TO PAY OUR MORTGAGE
WE, WE NEED, WE NEED TO HAVE A FULL HOUSE.
AND THIS HAS FRANKLY BEEN ONE OF THE ONLY TIMES THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE.
AND WE, WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY FOR SPECIFIC REASONS ABOUT THESE TWO PARTICULAR, TWO PARTICULAR TYPES OF BUSINESS.
UM, ONE IS, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL CARE ABOUT THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, FREDERICKSBURG HAS BECOME ONE OF THE, UM, IT, IT'S SORT OF LIKE THE SECOND LARGEST PLACE FOR GROWING GRAPES AND HAVING WINERIES IN THE COUNTRY NOW.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY SEVERAL WINERIES TO, TO COME INTO OUR BUILDING AND OR COME INTO THE AREA.
WE ALREADY HAVE ONE OR TWO IN THE AREA, UM, TO HAVE TASTING ROOMS SO THEY CAN EXPOSE PEOPLE THAT COME IN FROM OUT OF TOWN AND MAYBE WANNA GO TO FREDERICKSBURG AND POINT THERE TOWARDS AUSTIN TO SEE THAT, BUT THEIR CONVENTION WON'T ALLOW THEM, BUT A FEW HOURS.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR PERSON SAYS, I WANT TO BRING MORE, UM, BUSINESS AND MORE RECOGNITION TO OUR STATE AND SPECIFICALLY SAN ANTONIO FOR, WE'RE MORE THAN JUST THE, THE RIVERWALK, WHICH OF COURSE WE'RE SO PROUD OF.
UM, AND THEN THE TATTOO ARTIST SPECIFICALLY IS DOING SOME, SOME SPECIFIC WORK MEDICALLY, UM, FOR WOMEN THAT HAVE HAD, UH, MASTECTOMIES THEY NEED TO GO IN AND HAVE, UM, WHEN THEY CUT THEIR, I DIDN'T EVEN REALLY WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I'M A SURVIVOR, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WORK.
AND SO I GUESS THESE TWO SPEAK TO MY HEART, NOT JUST FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO FOR WHAT I FEEL LIKE, UM, DEVELOPMENT ZONES WERE, YOU KNOW, COMMITTED TO, TO BEGIN WITH, TO BRING MORE DEVELOPMENT TO THE CITY.
AND THESE ARE VERY SMALL WAYS.
THANK COMMISSIONER ZUKI AND THANK YOU, UH, MS. NAGER FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD THAT YOU CAN'T PAUSE A SMALL BUSINESS PENDING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT MAY HAPPEN IN A YEAR OR MAY NOT.
THAT WILL, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF IT DOES HAPPEN, IT'LL, IT'LL TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US NOW.
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SO, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY COMMISSIONERS WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MILAM FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL SA, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL, VOTE.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? THEY WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THEY WERE ON CONSENT AGENDA, SO WE'RE GOOD.
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A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? THERE IS NOT.OH, MAY I JUST CHIME IN? I'M SORRY.
NICOLE, I'M BEHIND YOU SO YOU DIDN'T GET TO SEE ME.
UH, AS WE MENTIONED IN A WORK SESSION PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, APPLICANTS OR, UH, THE APPLICATION WINDOW IS CURRENTLY OPEN.
IT'LL BE OPEN UNTIL APRIL 30TH.
SO, UM, IF YOU ARE AWARE OF ANYONE WE'VE BEEN SENDING E-BLAST OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THAT WINDOW WILL STAY OPEN UNTIL APRIL 30TH AND WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ATTEND.
I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING DISTRACTED.
SO WITH THAT, UM, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
UH, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, IT IS 3 0 8 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.