* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, LET'S GET GOING. IT IS TWO OH EIGHT AND WE WILL CALL THE, UH, APRIL 23RD. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. WOULD STAFF PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? HERE. COMMISSIONER MILAM? HERE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? HERE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? HERE. COMMISSIONER. PROFIT. PRESENT CHAIR. PECK HERE. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. GREAT. CAN WE HAVE THE SPANISH ENGLISH INTERPRETER PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. [Plats  ] OKAY. TODAY WE'LL HAVE TWO AGENDAS. THE FIRST AGENDA IS THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA. UM, CASES THAT ARE ON THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA ARE CASES WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY FURTHER DETAILED DISCUSSION, AND NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. ALL THE ITEMS WILL BE READ INTO THE RECORD IN ONE MOTION. UM, IF SOMEONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM, IT'LL BE MOVED TO THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA. OUR SECOND AGENDA IS THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA. ANYTHING NOT ON CONSENT WILL BE ON INDIVIDUAL. SO RIGHT NOW, THE WAY I SEE IT IS WE HAVE ITEMS, EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR ITEM 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, AND 12 WILL BE ON CONSENT. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. NOW, BEFORE TAKING ANY ACTION ON CONSENT, I KNOW WE HAVE TO READ IN A, UH, REVISION TO ITEM 14 INTO THE RECORD. YES. AND THAT, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS POSTPONED. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS POSTPONED. CORRECT. THANK YOU. AND FOR ITEM NUMBER 14, THEY ARE AMENDING THEIR SUBJECT PROPERTY TO 0.691 ACRES OUT OF NCB 1 0 9 1 15. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I THINK WE ALSO HAVE A VOICEMAIL TO LISTEN TO ON ITEM 15 AVENUE. THIS IS REGARDING ITEM 15 RESOLUTION, AMENDING THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS A 40 YEAR RESIDENT ADVOCATE FOR A CLEAN WATERWAYS AND SOMEONE WHO LOVES OUR NATURAL AREAS AND GREENWAYS. I'M CURIOUS, WHAT WILL THE CITY DO TO PROTECT OUR INVESTMENT IN LEON CREEK WHEN IT COMES TO THIS FREEWAY EXPANSION? THE SOUTH SIDE OF LEON CREEK IS HEAVILY FORESTED AND UNMODIFIED. IT'S A SECTION OF TREE PERFECT FOR FUTURE GREENWAY EXPANSION, AND THE CITY OWNS IT. UH, THIS HIGHWAY COULD INITIATE MASSIVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY LIKE WE SEE WITH EVERY OTHER HIGHWAY HERE IN TEXAS. THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF CREATED FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT AND FOUR TO SIX LANES OF CONCRETE COULD OVERWHELM THE CREEK, WHICH WOULD THEN HAVE TO BE CHANNELIZED DESTROYING THE NATURAL CHARACTER AND DESIRABILITY OF THE CREEK. SO, TO PROTECT LEON CREEK AND ITS VIABILITY AS PARKLAND AND NATURAL HABITAT, THE CITY SHOULD ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY NORTH OF THE CREEK TO ALLOW RUNOFF TO BE ABSORBED INTO THE LANDS AND ADDING TO GREEN SPACE THE CITY ALREADY OWNS IN THE AREA. ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY SHOULD LIMIT FRONTAGE ROADS ALONG THE ROUTE WHENEVER POSSIBLE, FRONTAGE, ROADS ENABLE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT AND WILL BECOME BUILT OUT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. THE RESULTING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO COMPROMISE THE USEFULNESS OF THIS ROUTE BY BRINGING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FROM SURROUNDING AREAS. THE CONTINUAL ADDITION OF DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE ROUTE WOULD REQUIRE SUBSEQUENT EXPANSIONS DECADE AFTER DECADE, LIKE WE SEE WITH EVERY OTHER FREEWAY HERE IN TEXAS. FRONTAGE ROADS ALSO CAUSE MOBILITY PROBLEMS OVER TIME BECAUSE NATURAL NETWORKS OF STREETS DON'T DEVELOP. SO THOSE WOULD BE MY TWO ASKS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? AND IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER PROFIT AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM. AS AMENDED. AS AMENDED. AND WE DO AS AMENDED. AS AMENDED. AS AMENDED. ALL RIGHT. MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED SA, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE COMMISSIONER PROFIT. YES. AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. AS AMENDED COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. CHAIR [00:05:01] PECK? YES. AS AMENDED. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. AS AMENDED. [Variances  ] OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. I HAD TO CHANGE THE NAME OF HEAD. MATT'S NAME. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MARK HARD CITY ARBORIST SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, TREE VARIANCE. UM, 25 44 0 0 1 6. INTERTECH SOLAR PROJECT LOCATED IN DISTRICT SEVEN. UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE STATES THAT SIGNIFICANT TREES SHALL BE PRESERVED AT 80% PRESERVATION IN BOTH THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS. HERITAGE TREES SHALL BE PRESERVED AT 100% PRESERVATION IN BOTH THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAINS AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS. THE HARDSHIP IN THIS CASE IS INTERTECH, USA, DEVELOPING A SOLAR ARRAY THAT'S GOING TO REMOVE THE LARGE SPECIES, SIGNIFICANT TREES AND NOT MEET THE 80% PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS. NOT MEETING THE 80% PRESERVATION REQUIREMENT FOR SIGNIFICANT TREES, UH, REQUIRES APPROVAL FOR MITIGATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING 13.7% PRESERVATION OF SIGNIFICANT TREES. UM, THE, THE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, 21 TREES, 12 TREES WILL BE REMOVED. FLOOD PLAIN MITIGATION IS 101.5 INCHES. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO MAKE PAYMENT INTO THE MITIGATION FUND. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. BIRD. IS THAT IT? THAT'S THE PRESENTATION, YES. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. MR. BYRD, IS THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM? JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. UH, MY NAME'S TIM HALLERAN. I'M WITH INTERTECH AUTOMOTIVE RESEARCH. UM, WE ARE THE APPLICANT AND, UH, ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES IS 49 50 CALLAHAN, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED SITE. OKAY. THANK YOU. HOWDY. JUSTIN CROWBAR, CERTIFIED ARBORIST CONSULTANT ON THE PROJECT. I'M ANTONIO O TILL I WORK WITH HOPE RENEWABLES AND WE'RE THE CONTRACTOR ON THE PROJECT. OKAY. THANKS A LOT. YOU GUYS, DO YOU WANNA MAKE A PRESENTATION OR JUST SEE, WAIT FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. NO, I MEAN, YEAH, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. ALL RIGHT, SOUNDS GOOD. UH, WE WILL START WITH COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. WE'LL START ON THE LEFT DOWN BY MR. BUS. NO QUESTIONS. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FURTHER. I, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, I SEE THE, THE MITIGATION'S A HUNDRED PERCENT PAYMENT. WHAT'S THE REASON FOR NOT WANTING TO PLANT ANY TREES BACK? UH, JUST THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE. SO WE HAVE AN AUTOMOTIVE TESTING LABORATORY, UM, AND SURROUNDING SUPPORT SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S ALSO INFRASTRUCTURE THERE THAT WOULD PREVENT REPLANTING OF THE AREA. SO AT PRESENT, THIS FIVE ACRES HASN'T BEEN USED PREVIOUSLY JUST BECAUSE IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE FLOODPLAIN TO BUILD ON. UM, SO IT'S PART OF OUR NET ZERO INITIATIVE TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. SO THAT'S, WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO PLANT TREES THAT WOULDN'T BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE SOLAR ARRAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY EXHIBITS OR ANYTHING TO SUPPORT WHERE THERE IS LACK OF, OF GREEN SPACE? I'M NOT. IT SHOULD BE. IT SHOULD BE IN OUR POWERPOINT PERSON. CAN YOU PULL UP THE, UM, DAVID, UM, YEAH. CAN YOU PULL UP THE, UM, SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE ON OUR RECORD, JOSE? YEAH. SO AS A, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT, AT AREAS ON SITE, SO THE SITE'S EXISTING USE, AND THEN, UH, OH, YOU GOTTA, HEY, I CAN, [00:10:01] I CAN POINT, UM, IF YOU ZOOM OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE ON THE STREET, IN THE ROAD FRONTAGE. SO IT'S AN EXISTING FACILITY THAT THEY'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT AN INFILL AND ADAPTING AND INCLUDING, UH, SOLAR PANELS. UM, THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, UH, THEY MEET, UH, PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS IN THE UPLANDS AREA, UM, AND, AND, AND ARE MITIGATING FOR THAT. UH, UH, UH, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY, UM, IN REFERENCE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE AREA. SO YOU HAVE A FLOODPLAIN HERE. YOU HAVE A 30 FOOT BUFFER THAT COMES OFF OF THE FLOODPLAIN. THE COUPLE TREES THAT ARE LOCATED IN IT, UM, HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND, AND, AND, AND TO BE MITIGATED. UM, AND WE WENT THROUGH DIFFERENT, UM, SITE PLAN ITERATIONS AND THINGS TO CONSIDER. BUT, UM, THE PRESENCE OF TREES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE, UH, PANELS ACTUALLY SHADE THE PANELS OUT. SO IT'S A PARKING LOT OR SOME OTHER KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. UH, YOU WANT SHADE, RIGHT? SHADE IS GREAT, BUT, UH, SOLAR PANELS KIND OF, UM, UNFORTUNATELY COUNTERINTUITIVE THERE. UM, THERE ARE UTILITIES, UH, ALL THROUGHOUT, UM, IN OTHER AREAS THAT ARE IN, IN, IN APPLICABLE PLANNING SPACE. SO A CLIENT, WE TALKED TO 'EM AND LOOKED AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS PLANTED UP, UH, UH, KIND OF WITH AVAILABLE GREEN SPACE THAT'S NOT, UM, WITHIN THE SITE PLAN. AND SO LOOKING AT, UH, UH, WITH UTILITY CONFLICTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BELOW GROUND AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALREADY EXISTING GREEN SPACE ON SITE IS SAYING, HEY, WE'D RATHER GIVE THEM, UH, TREE THE MONEY TO THE CITY TREE MITIGATION FUND AND THEY CAN PLANT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BUS STOP, PARK MEDIAN, UH, ESPLANADE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO WHERE THOSE EXISTING TREES ARE AT, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE CURRENT THAT'S, THAT'S RELATED, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THE PROJECT SITE. YES, YES, YES. THAT'S THE, THIS IS THE WHOLE, SO THE, THIS PARCEL, THEY OWN THIS ENTIRE, ENTIRE PROPERTY HERE, BASICALLY DOWN TO THIS AREA. UM, IS, THIS IS WHOLE SITE BOUNDARIES AND THIS WAS CONSTRUCTED, I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE FACILITY, UH, 1980, APPROXIMATELY WHAT'S INTENDED FOR THAT LITTLE PARCEL, THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE PARCEL THAT YOU HAD, YOU WENT OVER A COUPLE TIMES TALKING ABOUT UTILITIES? WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? UM, ADJACENT TO THAT, WE HAVE AN OIL WATER SEPARATOR FOR OUR PROCESS WATER. UM, AND IT'S PLUMBED BACK THROUGH THERE. SO PLANTING THINGS THAT ARE GONNA GROW DOWN WITH ROOTS AND POTENTIALLY DAMAGE THAT EQUIPMENT IS A REAL CONCERN FOR US. AND, AND WE'RE ALSO BOUND TO THE SOUTH BY THE FLOOD PLAIN. SO IF, IF WE PLANT THE FLOODPLAIN, THIS IS A, UH, CHANNELIZED DRAINAGE THAT COMES THROUGH HERE. SO REALLY DON'T, WE DON'T GET ANY CREDIT FOR, FOR PLANTING IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND, AND KIND OF A CONSTRAINT THERE. SO ANY, ANY KIND OF AVAILABLE GREEN SPACE IS OCCUPIED OR KIND OF IN USE AT, AT THIS TIME. OKAY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. MEREDITH? UH, YEAH, I HAVE QUESTIONS. UM, COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE? I'M SORRY. I SURE CAN. THANK YOU. SO, UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, BECAUSE, UM, THE, THE MITIGATION IS COVERING THE REMOVAL OF 12 TREES THAT ARE IN EXCESS OF THE PRESERVATION STANDARDS, BUT IN FACT, YOU'RE GONNA BE CLEAR CUTTING THE ENTIRE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THAT PARCEL. SO, UM, I READ IN THE, UM, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTION VARIANCE REQUEST THAT, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS SOLAR ARRAY IS TO, UM, OFFSET, UM, UH, CARBON FOOTPRINT, RIGHT? BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE OFFSETS A CARBON FOOTPRINT IS TREES. SO CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME IDEA WHY THE PANELS ARE A PREFERABLE OPTION TO PRESERVING TREES IN THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA? AND ALSO, CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF, UH, POWER THAT WILL BE PRODUCED, UM, IS, UH, DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE TREES THAT ARE GONNA BE REMOVED FROM THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA? DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT TREES AND DECLINE? SURE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO JUST, JUST SOME INSIGHT ON THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S EXISTING, THIS IS KIND OF INFILL SITES. IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE KNOW YOU SAID LIKE THE EIGHTIES, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, FLOOD PLAIN TO THE SOUTH. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PRI PRIMARY TREE SPECIES IN THE ARE, YOU KNOW, HACKBERRIES CHINA BERRIES. THERE'S A LOT OF TREES IN DECLINE THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED. UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT, THERE'S VALUE, RIGHT? THERE'S OBVIOUSLY LIKE A VALUE IN A HABITAT. UM, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GOING WITH THE, UH, THE, THE OWNER AND, AND HE, HE CAN GIVE SOME INSIGHT ON KIND OF HIS PROJECT GOALS AND HIS LANE GOALS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE WITH WHAT'S THERE AND MAKING MAXIMUM, YOU KNOW, AVAILABILITY AND USE OF THEIR SITE FOR THEIR, UH, THEIR, THEIR SOLAR GOALS. AND THEY'RE, THEY HAVE INTERNAL GOALS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, ACCOMPLISHING. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE TREES THAT THAT, THAT WE FOUND OUT HERE ON SITE ARE AREN'T, ARE SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MEETING THEIR, THEIR UPLANDS PRESERVATION REQUIREMENT. UM, AND, AND MITIGATING THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THAT REGARDS. UM, IT'S JUST REALLY THE ESA THAT'S THE, THE, THE, THE KIND OF POINT OF CONTENTION TODAY. SO, YEAH. AND WITH REGARDS TO OFFSET, SO THIS WOULD BE A ONE MEGAWATT ARRAY, IT WOULD ELIMINATE TWO THIRDS OF OUR [00:15:01] ANNUAL POWER CONSUMPTION FOR THIS FACILITY. UM, I THINK IT'S AN ANNUAL OFFSET. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME. I THINK IT'S ABOUT 1200 TONS OF CO2 ANNUALLY EMITTED OR, UM, REDUCED AND MITIGATED. AND THE LIFESPAN OF THESE PANELS IS ABOUT 30 YEARS. UM, SO WE THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE PREFERABLE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA PERFORM OVER THE COURSE OF 30 YEARS. SOME OF THESE TREES MIGHT NOT BE THERE IN 30 YEARS. THANK YOU. UH, COULD YOU ALSO SPEAK TO THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT THAT MIGHT BE, UM, CHANGED, UM, BY THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES AND, UH, THE PLACEMENT OF THESE, UH, REFLECTIVE PANELS? DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT ON THAT? I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY HERE TO, YOU KNOW, MEET TREE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AND, AND DISCUSS THAT. AND I, I'M, I'M NOT A HEAT ISLAND EXPERT, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS A CONSIDERATION AS, AS, AS SAN ANTONIO GROWS AND, AND, UH, UH, I THINK SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE VALIDATED. AND I THINK THE, UH, THE MITIGATION THAT'S, THAT'S PLANTED COULD, COULD PROBABLY BE TARGETED IN AREAS THAT HELP OFFSET THAT, THAT HEAT ISLAND EFFECT. I THINK THAT COVERS ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. PROPHET. UH, NO, OUR QUESTIONS, JUST A COMMENT. UM, THE VARIANCE IS CLEAR ON, ON THE TWO WAYS YOU CAN MITIGATE. IT'S EITHER PAYING INTO THE FUND OR PLANTING TREES AND, UM, I THINK YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE DOING ACCOMPLISHES THOSE GOALS. SO NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. AND COMMISSIONER MILAM, NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. I DO NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. UM, IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MOVE TO APPROVE MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER PROFIT SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM STAFF, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. OKAY, THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS REQUESTING A THREE WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE MAY 14TH MEETING. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. SO IF THERE'S ANY NO DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE CONTINUANCE. I MOVE TO CONTINUANCE. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF A THREE WEEK CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM. PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK [Comprehensive Master Plan Amendments  ] YOU. ITEM EIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE HIGHWAY 1 51 AND LOOP 1604 AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN FROM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL GENERALLY. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,000 BLOCK OF ROGERS ROAD, THERE WERE 21 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, FOUR OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET. MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES NEIGHBORHOOD CORRELATION IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES. CONTRACTORS LOCATED WITHIN PROXIMITY TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WOULD INCREASE THE FUTURE POTENTIAL FOR HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT WITHIN AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL ZONE BLOCK. THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DESIGNATION PERMITS LOWER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL ZONES RECOMMENDED WHEN ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES MAKING IT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. GREAT, THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM POWERPOINT FOR ME. EXCUSE ME, COMMERS. I HAVE A POWERPOINT I'M JUST WAITING ON. OH, THERE WE GO. [00:20:01] UM, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE SUITE 3 0 4 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND I HAVE A LITTLE POWERPOINT WE'RE GONNA GET UP HERE, UM, ON THE FIRST PAGE. THERE WE GO. UM, JUST START FROM THE BEGINNING. I I UNDERSTAND STAFF POSITION, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN WAS AMENDED RECENTLY, UM, AND WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT ANY WAY WE COULD TO, TO NOT HAVE TO DO A PLAN AMENDMENT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE ZONING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING, WE NEED TO HAVE A ABOUT 7,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST C TWO. UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A GENERAL IDEA WHERE THE PROPERTY IS, IT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF KBRA AND 1604 AND NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF 1 51 AND 1604. DO I JUST HAVE THE YEAH. OKAY. AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO. IT'S SORT OF A BUSINESS PARK TYPE BUILDING WITH, YOU KNOW, OFFICE SPACE UP FRONT AND GARAGE DOORS AND BACK. MY CLIENT KEVIN FLETCHER, UM, IS A, HAS A, RUNS A TINTING COMPANY AND HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A TIN TINTING SHOP THERE, BUT HE IS ALSO BEEN REACHED OUT TO BY A POOL GUY AND A CABINET MAKER GUY THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SORT OF BUSINESS OFFICE FLEX SPACE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD THERE. I KNOW THIS IS PLANNING AND WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET TOO INTO THE WEEDS, BUT I THINK IT KIND OF HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHY WE'RE, WHY WE ARE MAKING THE REQUEST WE'RE MAKING. AND THAT'S OF COURSE THE SITE PLAN. AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT HAS A DRAINAGE FEATURE AT THE BOTH THE NORTH AND THE EAST SIDES OF THE PROPERTY TO KIND OF SHIELD US FROM THE NEIGHBORS. AND AGAIN, JUST THAT FRONTAGE. AND THEN, OKAY, SO MY CLIENT, KEVIN FLETCHER, HE IS ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. HE LIVED THERE IN THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES AND HAS ALWAYS HAD PROPERTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO BEFORE WE EVEN FILED THIS, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE OKAY WITH IT. WITH THAT, WE'VE AGREED TO ADD AN NA AND DO SOME DEED RESTRICTIONS TO KEEP SOME BAD COMMERCIAL USES FROM THE PROPERTY. AND WE WILL DO THAT BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCIL. NOW STAFF IS SAYING THAT THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WOULD INCREASE THE FUTURE POTENTIAL FOR HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT WITH AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL ZONED BLOCK. I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR, IF YOU LOOK AT ROGERS ROAD, WHICH AT THIS POINT IS A FOUR LANE DIVIDED BOULEVARD, EVERY SINGLE USE UP AND DOWN THE STREET IS A COMMERCIAL USE. UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CHURCHES, BUT WE HAVE TWO WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY WERE FORMERLY SOME KIND OF MECHANIC SHOP. WE HAVE A BIG WAREHOUSE THAT'S A A A A ONE OF THOSE, THESE, A PRINT SHOP, A WOMEN'S CLINIC, A TRANSMISSION SHOP. SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY AFFECTING THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE WON'T HAVE. OUR SITE PLAN HAS ONLY HAS ACCESS TO ROGERS ROAD, WHICH AGAIN IS A FOUR LANE DIVIDED BOULEVARD WITH CARS GOING AT A PRETTY HIGH RATE OF SPEED. AND WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A NEW HOSPITAL UNDER CONSTRUCTION ACROSS THE STREET. WE HAVE MICROSOFT, WE HAVE AN OFFICE COMPLEX. SO I THINK ROGERS ROAD IS A PRETTY COMMERCIAL THOROUGHFARE AND WE WE'RE NOT ENCROACHING BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DID RECEIVE A FEW OPPOSITION NOTICES. MY MY CLIENT DOES KNOW THEM. WE'RE KIND OF ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD IN THE PROCESS AND YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO'S GONNA HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. BUT LOOKING AT THE RESPONSES THEY MADE, IT LOOKS LIKE THEIR CONCERNS WERE PRIMARILY THAT WE MIGHT BE TRYING TO DO A BAR, NIGHTCLUB, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WE'RE GONNA RESTRICT THOSE KIND OF USES OUT. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. AND LIKE I SAID, THE APP, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. MR. CHRISTENSEN. I THINK THERE'S SOMEBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, MR. MICHAEL VALDEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM? JOSE, CAN YOU LET HIM, UM, SIT THERE AT THAT AREA PLEASE? THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. I'M MICHAEL VALDEZ. WE USE APPEAL BOX FOR MAILING BOX 6 8 0 0 6 3 SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. WE HAVE A PROPERTY, A PROPERTY ON THE MOUNT EVANS SIDE, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE SIDE OF YOUR PROPERTIES THAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO BUILD. UH, THE WATERWAY THAT HE'S SPEAKING ABOUT, HE RUNS THROUGH A PORTION. WE HAVE ONE ACRE ON THERE. UH, WE'VE ALWAYS PLANNED TO BUILD A HOME THERE, WHICH WOULD, UH, FROM WHAT I SEE NOW BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT PLANS THERE, THERE'S AN ENTRANCEWAY COMING IN ON THE SIDE OF MOUNTAIN VIEW GOING IN AND ONE COMING IN OFF OF ROGERS ROAD. UH, TRAFFIC COMING IN THROUGH THERE, IF IT COMES IN THROUGH THE SIDE WOULD SEEM TO BE, I DON'T KNOW, VERY BUSY FOR SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO BUILD A HOUSE THERE, UH, FOR THEIR RETIREMENT. UH, I, WE'VE ALREADY HAD TO RE RESET SOME OF OUR PLANS ON, ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOME AND WE'RE LOOKING AT RECONSTRUCTING IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE WE COULDN'T USE ALL THE PROPERTY THAT WAS GOING INTO THE PART WHERE THE WATERWAY IS AT. UH, THAT'S FOR OUR, OUR PART OF IT. BUT TO SEE ANOTHER, UH, BUILDING OUT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND SEEING THE BACK END OF THAT BUILDING, UH, [00:25:01] I THINK WOULD, WOULDN'T BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING FOR US IF WE HAD TO GO OUT AND SIT IN, IN OUR FRONT YARD AT THAT POINT IN TIME. AND I APOLOGIZE IF THESE, UM, IF WE DON'T WANT TO DENY ANYBODY A BUSINESS, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT OURSELVES SO FAR AS WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO, TO LIVE AROUND. UH, WE ALSO TRIED TO, UH, PURCHASE A PROPERTY THAT WAS RIGHT NEXT TO US AS WELL SO WE CAN EXPAND OR STAY WITH OUR ORIGINAL PLANS. UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONE WAS TAKEN OVER, WHICH IS THE PLAT, UM, ON THE ROGERS ROAD, RIGHT IN THIS AREA HERE. WE'RE RIGHT HERE GOING ACROSS. I'M SORRY I CAN'T SHOW YOU, BUT THERE, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN PROJECT THAT SO WE CAN SEE? YEAH, THANKS. WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT THERE ON THAT SIDE WHERE THE ARROW WAS AT SIR. AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER LOT THAT WAS ON ROGERS ROAD, UH, RIGHT IN THAT, RIGHT IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. AND WE'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. WE HAVE AN ACRE IN THAT SECTION AND THEN THEY ALREADY BUILT A HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT THE WATERWAY GOES RIGHT ACROSS. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NEXT DOOR TO HIM ON THAT PART OF, OF MOUNT EVANS, BUT FOR US, WE WOULD END UP SEEING THAT WHEN WE ACTUALLY FINALLY DO CONSTRUCT HER. THAT'S ALL I WANT. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL MOVE TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER MILAM. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS. UH, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF UNDER COMMUNITY, WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE. THEY COULD STILL DO A LITTLE RETAIL CENTER IN THERE. THE DISTINCTION HERE IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO BUILD WHAT LOOKS LIKE A RETAIL CENTER ON FRONT BUT HAS GARAGE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, HAS A WAREHOUSE COMPONENT IN THE BACK. RIGHT? I MEAN THAT, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY CURRENTLY YOU COULD BUILD A RETAIL CENTER, CORRECT? CORRECT. THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OR LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES, BUT THE APPLICANT IS NEEDING A C TWO AND HIGHER. UM, POTENTIALLY A FEW HIGHER USES, BUT THEY NEED THAT C TWO BASED ZONING UNDER THE CURRENT ONE YOU COULD DO. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WHAT'S THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION RIGHT NOW? WELL, FOR A C ONE, I GUESS QUESTION WOULD CHANGE THE HEIGHT, THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION FOR A C ONE IS 25 FEET AND THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION FOR A C TWO IS ALSO 25 FEET. BUT AGAIN, IT'S MAINLY GONNA BE THE USES PERMITTED. RIGHT. AGAIN, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THE, FROM THE OUTSIDE, WHAT COULD BE THERE. RIGHT. IT'S NOT THAT IT IS GONNA BE A HOUSE. AND ALSO JUST, SORRY TO GO BACK. C ONE ACTUALLY ALSO HAS, UM, SIZE, UH, BUILDING SIZE MAXIMUMS. SO YOU ARE PERMITTED ONLY UP TO A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON A C ONE PROPERTY, WHEREAS THERE'S NO MAXIMUMS FOR A C TWO PROPERTY. OH. SO THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, IF GRANTED, WOULD ALLOW THEM A BIGGER BUILDING ON THAT SITE. CORRECT. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. BUSER MONTE. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. MR. CHRISTENSEN, UM, YOU HEARD THE SPEAKER IDENTIFY SOME ISSUES THAT HE HAS WITH ANY POTENTIAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND PROBABLY EVENTUALLY A ZONING YES. ISSUES AS WELL. UH, WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE? UM, THE NICE THING IS WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED ANY KIND OF PLANS. I MEAN THAT'S SORT OF OUR, OUR PROTOTYPE SIDE PLAN. WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK TO THE ARCHITECT, SAY THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MOVE A DRIVEWAY. WE CAN CERTAINLY AGREE TO SOME EXTRA TREE PLANNING SO THAT THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO REALLY SEE ANYTHING AND MAYBE WE CAN SHIP THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT. NOTHING'S THE, THE, THE SITE PLAN WON'T BE SET IN STONE UNTIL WE GO TO COUNCIL. SO WE'VE GOT A OVER A MONTH TO GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT AND TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE'LL CERTAINLY TALK TO HIM. OKAY. AND NOW AGAIN, FOR YOUR REQUEST ON THE ZONING, UH, SITE PLAN TO WHICH YOU ARE BOUND IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THE ZONING, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, IT, IT IS, IT IS. OKAY. BUT ZONING COMMISSION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SITE PLAN, BUT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS UP UNTIL IT GETS APPROVED BY COUNSEL. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENSEN. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH, UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN'S COMMENTS, THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT THEY COULD MODIFY, LIKE IF THEY REDUCE THINGS, BUT T TECHNICALLY AFTER ZONING COMMISSION IS REVIEWED IT, THEY CAN'T EXPAND, THEY COULDN'T ADD ON ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES OR IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE BECAUSE [00:30:01] THESE ITEMS WOULD BE, NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY, OR ANYWAYS, THEY NEED TO BE REVIEWED BY ZONING COMMISSION BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. CORRECT. AND I GUESS, UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN SAID THAT THERE, UH, YOU'RE PUTTING SOME, I GUESS ITEMS IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS OF THINGS THAT WON'T BE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY THAT GETS TIED TO THE ZONING ALSO. RIGHT? IT'S NOT UNDER OUR PURVIEW TODAY. IT JUST GETS TIED TO THE ZONING. I CAN ANSWER THAT. SURE. NOT PART OF IT. THE CITY WON'T ENFORCE, I'M SORRY, , THE CITY WON'T ENFORCE PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS, BUT THE COUNCIL PERSON WOULD REQUIRE THAT WE RECORD THEM PRIOR TO HER APPROVING THE ZONING CASES THE WAY WE NORMALLY HANDLE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. DID YOU, YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GONNA ADD NA ON THE ZONING REQUEST? YES. WE ARE GONNA ADD AN NA AND LIKE I SAID, I WILL SPEAK TO THE, THE PERSON THAT, UM, HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR SITE PLAN TO TRY TO TAKE CARE OF HIS CONCERNS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENSEN. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PROFIT STAFF. PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. AYE. CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER NINE. THIS IS JUST A CONTINUANCE, UM, CORRECT. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS REQUESTING A THREE WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE MAY 14TH MEETING. ALRIGHT. UH, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON A THREE WEEK CONTINUANCE. MOTION TO APPROVE CONTINUANCE TO MAY 14TH. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE TO MAY 14TH BY COMMISSIONER PROPHET AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILAM. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER PROPHET? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. GREAT. ITEM NUMBER 11 AND IT IS TWO 40 AND I'M GONNA RECUSE MYSELF. I BELIEVE IT WAS MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE, NOT APPROVAL. THANK YOU. TURN THE MEETING OVER TO VICE CHAIR PROPHET. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 11. GOOD AFTERNOON, EZ ZONING, ZENER PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN FROM COUNTRY TIER YEAR TO RURAL ESTATE HERE. GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 19,000 BLOCK OF TRU ROW ROAD, THERE WERE 13 NOTICES MAILED OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO POST WITHIN 200 FEET. THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM COUNTRY TIER TO RULER STATE TIER IS REQUESTED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO R 20 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ZONE STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING AREA. MOST OF THE AREAS COUNTRY TIER, WHICH POOREST RESOURCE PROTECTION DISTRICTS AND FARM AND RANCH DISTRICTS, I MEAN LAND USE THE AMENDMENT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY ALTER EXISTING LAND USE PATTERNS, WHICH ARE MOSTLY FARM AND RANCH WITHIN WITH SPARSE PARKS OF LARGE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A GROUPING OF SMALLER 0.8 ACRE LOTS ACROSS FROM THE STREET THAT WERE SUBDIVIDED PRIOR TO ANION IN THE CITY. IN DECEMBER OF 2024, THERE WAS A LAND USE CHANGE FROM RURAL ESTATE HERE AND YOU'RE REZONING TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE HERE FOR THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET AT 19 17 5 TRUMBO ROAD STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MS. WESSLER. YEAH. OKAY, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE SUITE TWO 50. UM, THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I WILL GOT A HANDFUL OF SLIDES FOR YOU GUYS TODAY. UM, THIS PROPERTY IS AT 19 0 5 6 TRUMBO ROADS. THIS PROPERTY IS ONLY FOUR ACRES LARGE. UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS AN INDIVIDUAL MS. CARMEN RODRIGUEZ. SHE HAS OWNED IT SINCE 2017. UM, AND SHE IS LOOKING TO SUBDIVIDE THIS PROPERTY INTO FOUR EQUAL ONE ACRE PARCELS FOR HER CHILDREN. UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT PLOT IN A MINUTE. UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, AND I SHOW YOU A COUPLE DIFFERENT VIEWS ALONG TRUMBO. AND AGAIN, THERE'S A SMALL PORTION THAT CONNECTS TO PLEASANTON ROAD, BUT PRIMARILY TRUMBO FRONTED, UM, WHERE THERE ARE SMALLER BLACK DEVELOPMENTS AND IN AROUND THIS AREA, UM, THE COUNTRY TIER THAT IT IS CURRENTLY IN, UM, THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION IS FOR LOTS THAT ARE GREATER THAN 10 ACRES, 10 ACRES AND ABOVE. UM, THAT IS ALSO THE REQUIREMENT [00:35:01] OF THE RP ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH WE CURRENTLY HAVE. AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS ONLY FOUR ACRES, SO WE CANNOT MEET THE ZONING THRESHOLD NOR THE PLAN DESIGNATION THRESHOLD FOR THAT 10 ACRE PLUS. UM, WITH THE FOUR ACRES THAT EXIST CURRENTLY, UM, THIS IS SOUTH LOOKING NORTH, UM, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN ON BOTH SIDES OF TRUMBO AND PLEASANTON. UM, SEVERAL SMALLER ACRE UH, PARCELS. UH, THIS IS JUST A LARGER, SIGNIFICANTLY ZOOMED OUT, UM, AERIAL MAP WHERE YOU CAN SEE, UM, WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS OFF OF PLEASANTON AND TRUMBO. UM, SOUTH OF FOUR 10 NORTH OF 1604. UM, SO AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS, IS ONLY FOUR ACRES, UM, FOUR ACRES FLAT. AND EVEN UM, OUR PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST IS FROM COUNTRY TIER TO RURAL ESTATE. UM, THIS IS TRIGGERED BY A REZONING REQUEST. UM, THIS IS THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S ZONED RP, WHICH AGAIN REQUIRES A 10 ACRE MINIMUM LOT SIZE. WE ARE SIX ACRES OF THAT SHORT. UM, IT WAS ORIGINALLY OUR HOPE AND INTENT TO BE ABLE TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO RE WHICH REQUIRES A ONE ACRE LOT MINIMUM. THESE ARE GONNA BE ONE ACRE LOT MINIMUMS. HOWEVER, THERE ARE OTHER REQUIREMENTS, UM, FRONTAGE SIZES, LOT WIDTH, UM, THAT WE AREN'T ABLE TO MEET. AND THAT IS THE TRIGGER FOR THE R 20 ZONING REQUEST. UM, SO THESE WILL BE ONE ACRE LOTS, UM, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE RE ACROSS THE STREET ON TRUMBO. THOSE ARE ALSO REQUIRED ONE ACRE LOT MINIMUM. SO THESE WILL ALL BE ONE ACRE. UM, BUT WE ARE NEEDING THE R 20 FOR THE LOT SIZE DIMENSIONS. UM, THIS IS A UNUSUALLY SHAPED PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, TO TRY AND DIVIDE EQUALLY INTO FOUR EXACT ACRES, UH, FOR INDIVIDUAL ACRE PIECES. UM, THIS IS THE PLAN AMENDMENT MAP. YOU CAN SEE THE RURAL ESTATE TIER HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON TRUMBO. UM, AND I'M GONNA SKIP, UH, I'M GONNA SKIP AHEAD AND THEN COME BACK. SO AGAIN, COUNTRY TIER IN THIS HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN. SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A, AN OLDER PLAN. UM, HERITAGE SOUTH IS IS TYPICALLY FOR, UM, EXCUSE ME, THE COUNTRY TIER IS TYPICALLY FOR LARGE LOTS DEVELOPMENT GREATER THAN 10 ACRES. WE ARE NOT, UM, RURAL ESTATE IS FOR LOTS OR ARE GREATER THAN A HALF AN ACRE. SO WE ARE MEETING THAT WITH THE PROPOSED REQUEST. UM, THESE ARE GONNA BE ONE ACRE LOT MINIMUMS. UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLAQUE. THIS IS ALREADY, UM, GONE THROUGH INTERNALLY. UM, A PLOT WILL COME FORWARD, UM, TO PLANNING COMMISSION EVENTUALLY FOR APPROVAL. BUT THIS IS, IS THE PLOT. UM, THESE ARE THE FOUR INDIVIDUAL LOTS FOR MS. RODRIGUEZ'S, FOUR CHILDREN. UM, THERE IS NO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THOSE. UM, SHE ALSO LIVES FURTHER DOWN ON TRUMBO ROAD AND WOULD LIKE TO SUBDIVIDE HER PROPERTY, UH, TO GIFT ONE TO EACH CHILD. UM, SO AGAIN, THESE ARE THE ONE ACRE LOT MINIMUMS. UM, AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OUR ENGINEER FROM KCI IS ALSO HERE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. WE'LL START WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTANI WITH ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ. NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? NO QUESTION MR. SANCHEZ. NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. MILAM. NO QUESTIONS. I TOO HAVE NO QUESTIONS. SO IF ANY UH, UH, ANY FURTHER I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. ALRIGHT, I'LL SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICANT'S REQUEST BY COMMISSIONER MILAM. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. UM, PROFIT COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. YOU CAN LET GEORGE BACK IN THE TIME IS 2 46. CHAIR PECK HAS RETURNED TO THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 12, GOOD AFTERNOON. BROUGHT TO FOR PLAN ROAD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE GUADALUPE WESTSIDE COMMUNITY PLAN. FROM LOAD DENSITY MIXED USE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LOCATED AT 4 0 2 AND 4 0 6 SOUTH ZAMORE STREET. THERE ARE 22 NOTICES SENT ZERO IN FAVOR TO OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THERE WAS ZERO IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE. THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY MIXED USE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS TO REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C3. GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT [00:40:01] STAFF FINDS THEIR PROPOSED LAND USE CLASSIFICATION INCONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES. THE REQUEST TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WOULD ALLOW HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATELY LOCATED WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATIONS. STAFF COMMEND DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS THE APPLICANT LIKE TO, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH PODIUM? GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS SO LUIS NORIEGA NOGA STUDIO. AND, UM, THIS PROPOSED, UM, I GUESS, UM, PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON, UH, SAR AND 4 0 2. SERGEANT MORA 4 0 6 GENTLEMAN STARTED, UM, A DEALERSHIP BACK IN 2002. HE'S BEEN IN AT THIS LOCATION FOR ABOUT OVER 20 YEARS AND HE NOW IS WANTING TO ACTUALLY INVOLVED HIMSELF IN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A JUSTICE HAVING A, A DEALERSHIP. SO EVERY YEAR HE ACTUALLY HAS BEEN APPLYING FOR A, UM, UM, NONCONFORMING. SO EVERY YEAR HE HAS TO DO A NONCONFORMING. HE'S KIND OF TIRED OF DOING THAT, THEREFORE HE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CHANGE IT TO C3. NOW THE USE THAT WE ARE HOPING THAT ACTUALLY HAVE, AND THIS WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES HAVE, IS THAT THE CHEMICALS THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED TO ACTUALLY CLEAN VEHICLES OR TO EVEN DO ANY OF THE OIL CHANGES OR PREPARE PREPARATION FOR THE VEHICLES TO BE ACTUALLY SOLD. THAT IS GONNA BE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE QUESTION. WE WILL HAVE AN EXACT RECYCLABLE AND, UM, UH, MITIGATION PLAN BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO INTO CONSOLE. WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE ACTUAL, UM, WATER MITIGATION WHERE WE WILL NOT BE U UTILIZING AT ALL ANY CHEMICALS TO DO ANY OF THE WASHINGS BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE OUT OF THE WINDOW FOR, UH, CITY COUNCIL. AND, UH, WE ARE ALSO GONNA BE TRYING TO DO A, UH, A, A MUCH BETTER ACTUAL SITE PLAN SO THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBILITY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE'RE HERE TO ASK, I MEAN, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL ON THIS ITEM AS WELL. YOU HAVE THREE VOICEMAILS. OKAY, WE'LL LISTEN TO THOSE . MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN THREE TWO EIGHT FIVE ONE SIX TWO. MY ADDRESS IS 25 0 5 SAUNDERS AVENUE. I AM AGAINST THIS. THE PA NUMBER IS 2 0 2 5 1 1 6 0 0 0 3 0. AGAIN, I IN OPPOSITION, THIS WILL NOT HELP OUR STREET. IT HAS BEEN A HAZARD AND IT DISCONTINUES SOMEBODY WILL GET KILLED AGAIN. I AM AGAINST OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE. THANK YOU. HI, THIS IS MICHELLE SALAZAR CALLING FOR 26 11 SAUNDERS AVENUE IN OPPOSITION TO, UM, AMENDMENT K, PA TWO ZERO TWO FIVE ONE ONE SIX ZERO ZERO ZERO THREE ZERO. UM, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 788-8609. AGAIN, AN OP AN OPPOSITION TO THE, UM, AN AMENDMENT REQUEST FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL 2 4 0 2 AND 4 0 6 SOUTH PA. HI, MY NAME IS ANDY MICHEL. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 992-9435. I LIVE AT 25 19 SAUNDERS AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 7. I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE ENDING IN 0 0 3 0. I AM IN OPPOSITION FOR THE AMENDMENT FROM TWO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. WE DEAL WITH A BUNCH OF, UH, ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT, UH, OWNERS THERE. PARKING ALL ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, STREETS TAKING UP, UP ALL OF THE PARK, ALL OF THE STREET PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR HOME. AND IT CAUSES A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION ON OUR STREET AND WE ARE IN OPPOSITION FOR IT. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT FOR VOICEMAILS. WE ALSO HAVE, UH, FRANK SANCHEZ SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? YES SIR. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. UH, MY NAME IS, UH, FRANK SANCHEZ. I'M, YOU, YOU GET, YOU CAN START WHEN YOU GET TO THE PODIUM. MM-HMM . [00:45:01] UH, THANKS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. UH, MY NAME IS, UH, FRANK SANCHEZ. I'M AT 25 20 SAUNDERS AVENUE. I'M THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO RANCHES AUTO SALES. UM, I'M GONNA READ OFF 'CAUSE SOMETIMES I TEND TO FORGET SOME THINGS, SOME THINGS, UH, RANCHES, AUTO SALES 4 0 2, 4 0 6 SOUTH SMO STREET IS A TROUBLESOME NUISANCE TO US AND OUR NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES OF OUR STREET ON SAUNDERS AVENUE FROM THE BLOCK STARTING AT SMO STREET TO, UH, ROCIO STREET, AS WELL AS THE SERVICE ALLEY THAT SERVICES OUR AND OUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTIES. STARTING FROM SMO STREET TO ROCIO STREET, THE OWNER AND EMPLOYEES PARK WORK ON REPAIR AND STORE VEHICLES FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AS WELL AS THE SERVICE ALLEY. ALSO, CUSTOMERS OF RANCHES, AUTO SALES AND TOW TRUCKS DELIVERING VEHICLES WHICH ARE OFTEN DAMAGED AND BROKEN DOWN TO RANS AUTO SALES PARKED THEIR VEHICLES FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND THE OPTUM BLOCK. OUR AND OUR NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAYS HINDERING US FROM EXITING OUR HOMES. THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH MALL AND SAUNDERS IS A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA AND BECAUSE OF THE ABOVE, THIS CAUSES BOTTLENECKS, BLIND SPOTS, ACCIDENTS, SAFETY ISSUES, DOESN'T ALLOW FOR US, OUR NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHO VISIT TO PARK IN FRONT OF OUR OWN HOMES AND OFTEN INTERRUPTS OURS AND OUR NEIGHBOR'S WASTE AND RECYCLING PICKUP SERVICES. UH, ALSO WHEN THE OWNER AND EMPLOYEES ARE WORKING ON REPAIRING, PULLING PARTS FROM THE VEHICLES ON THE STREET AND SERVICE ALLEY, THEY OFTEN LEAVE SPILLED OIL PARTS AND DEBRIS ON THE STREET THAT CAN CAUSE DAMAGE TO NOT ONLY OUR PERSONAL VEHICLES, BUT VEHICLES TRAVELING TO AND FROM SAUNDERS AVENUE AND THE SERVICE ALLEY. THERE'S ALSO A SAFETY CONCERN FOR HIS EMPLOYEES WHO WORK ON AND UNDER THESE VEHICLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET WHILE OTHER VEHICLES ARE TRAVELING TO AND FROM SAUNDERS AVENUE. UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE DRIVE AT HIGH RATE OF SPEED. UH, THEY'RE ON ANOS AVENUE FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF REQUESTING, UH, SPEED BUMPS IN THAT AREA TO HELP, UH, ALLEVIATE THAT. UM, ALSO HIS CUSTOMERS THAT PULL UP, THEY PARK THEIR VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, TO CONDUCT BUSINESS WITH HIM THERE AT RANCHO AUTO SALES, THEY TEND TO LEAVE TRASH BEHIND. AND THIS ALSO EXTREMELY, IT'S, IT'S ANNOYING AND IT'S UNSIGHTLY TO SEE THAT ON OUR STREET AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOMETIMES THEY TEND TO BLOCK OUR DRIVEWAYS AND WE CAN'T EVEN LEAVE OUR HOMES, YOU KNOW, UH, THE LOT IN THE BACK. 4 0 6 SOUTH ELONA STREET ON THE SERVICE ALLEY SIDE. FROM OUR OBSERVATION, UH, THE OWNER MAINLY STORES WHAT APPEARS TO BE VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN PARTED OUT. UH, AND THE LOT IS, IS ESSENTIALLY A JUNKYARD ALSO, THIS LOT IS OVERGROWN AND UNKEPT TREES THAT ARE NOT PUSHING AGAINST OUR BACKYARD FENCE AND THEN MAKING IT LEAN TOWARDS OUR PROPERTY. THE OWNER HAS ALSO BUILT AN OVERHEAD METAL STRUCTURE WITHIN THAT LOT AND HAS JERRY RIGGED A POWER LINE FROM HIS PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS MY PROPERTY TO THAT METAL STRUCTURE. AND WE BELIEVE THAT'S ILLEGAL AND WE BELIEVE THAT METAL STRUCTURE IS ILLEGAL. I THINK IT'S TOO HIGH IN CLOSING IF THE OWNER OF RANCH'S AUTO SEAL CANHOLD AND THE CURRENT ZONING THAT, UH, THAT HE HAS RIGHT NOW, AND THERE'S PROBABLY A REASON WHY HE'S ALWAYS TRYING TO APPLY FOR A, A NON-CONFORMING, I GUESS, PERMIT EVERY YEAR. UH, IT, IT'S JUST NEGATIVE. IT IMPACTS OUR BLOCK, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND UH, WE JUST FEEL THAT, UH, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY INCREASE OR AMENDMENT OR CHANGE TO A ZONING. WE ACTUALLY FEEL BECAUSE OF THE HIGH TRAFFIC THERE AT SAUNDERS AND SAA, MORA SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE A A, AN AUTO SALES, UH, DEALERSHIP THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. SANCHEZ. YOU BET. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EVERYBODY THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND UH, START WITH COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. WE'LL START ON THE LEFT. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, NO QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER. I WOULD MR. SANCHEZ? NO QUESTIONS. I HAVE QUESTIONS. GREAT. . UM, SO, UM, THE UM, COM COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO CAME TO SPEAK, I THINK IT'S MR. VALDEZ, IS THAT CORRECT? MR. SANCHEZ SANCHEZ. UM, THANK YOU FOR COMING TO SPEAK. UM, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT YOU REVEALED THAT ARE CONCERNING, SUCH AS CARS BEING REPAIRED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, CARS PARKED, BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS, UM, STRUCTURES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PERMITTED BEING BUILT ON THE SITE. AND, UM, SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE ELEMENTS THAT ARE CONCERNING. UM, AND I WONDER IF THERE ARE ANY CODE COMPLIANCE, UH, CASES AGAINST THIS PROPERTY AS, AS THIS PROCEEDING TAKES PLACE? THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL, MA'AM. WE HAVE SEEN, UM, I DO SEE THAT THERE ARE CODE VIOLATION OR I'M SORRY, UM, INVESTIGATIONS, BUT DUE TO, UM, WHEN THEY'VE GONE OUT TO THE LOCATIONS, THEY DO NOT FIND THEM. AND SO THEY NOTED THAT THERE'S NO VIOLATION. THANK YOU. UM, SO I WONDER IF, UM, THERE'S ANY REBUTTAL TO THOSE STATEMENTS? ABSOLUTELY, YES MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. UM, MR. SANCHEZ, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STOPPING BY AND, UH, SPEAKING YOUR MIND. [00:50:01] AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO GET TO HEAR THE FULL SPECTRUM OF THESE COMPLAINTS. YES, I'VE TALKED TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBERS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUE, AS MR. SANCHEZ STATED WITH THE PARKING, UNFORTUNATELY THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MR. NCES. THOSE, THERE IS QUITE A FEW PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEY'RE BEING RENTED AS SINGLE ROOMS. THEREFORE MANY PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO PARK ON THE ACTUAL STREETS. BECAUSE OF THAT AND BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT THIS MIGHT COME UP, WE THOUGHT WE SHOULD HAVE A PLAN FOR US TO MITIGATE THAT ISSUE AND CALL FIELD TRUCK OURSELVES AND HELP THEM OUT AND SHOW THEM SUPPORT AND SHOW THEM THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND WHAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS IF THERE'S ANY OF THE VEHICLES THAT MR. ROUND SAYS MR. GARCIA HAS IN THE ACTUAL THROWAWAY THAT'S PUBLIC, HE WILL MARK THEM AND SAY, THIS IS MINE AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CALL ME RIGHT AWAY SO THAT I CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT OUTTA THE WAY. IF THAT'S THE CASE, HE DOESN'T PARK THE VEHICLES THERE. UM, BUT IF HE IS GONNA PARK A VEHICLE OUTSIDE JUST FOR A SINGLE MOMENT, THEN MAYBE HE WILL ACTUALLY MARK IT AND IF WE WILL, AND HE SAID, I WILL CALL THE TOW TRUCK IF THEY WANT ME TO, TO REMOVE THE OTHER VEHICLES RIGHT OUT OF THE WAY. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST HIM, IT'S THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE ACTUALLY, AS YOU COULD TELL, IT'S VERY, UM, SHORT IN PARKING AND VERY SHORT IN REAL ESTATE. THEREFORE THE HOUSING MARKET IS REALLY, UM, IMPORTANT DOWN IN THE WEST SIDE AND IT'S VERY DENSE AS WE SPEAK. SO THIS IS WHY WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE ACTUAL PROJECT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. UM, LUCKILY, UH, GENTLEMAN WAS ABLE TO, UH, SHOW MY PHONE WHERE I CAN, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL IMAGE OF WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING AND WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING IS SOMETHING, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU COULD TELL, AND THIS IS A NEW SITE PLAN THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT TO MR. RAMES AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONE. WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY THAT HE JUST ACTUALLY ACQUIRED A COUPLE YEARS BACK COULD BE ADDED ONTO THE 4 0 2 AND 4 0 6 SAR MORE. THAT'S WHERE BOTH OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE, UH, CONJOINED. WE WANTED TO PUT THEM TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY UTILIZE THEM AND UTILIZE THE PROPERTY. SO WE CAN HAVE AN ACTUAL ENTRY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE, UH, PROPERTY AND THEN AN EXIT ON THE SOUTH, IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN TELL, THAT SOUTH PARK THAT SAYS RAMP AT THE VERY BOTTOM, IT'S AN ACTUAL THROWAWAY BECAUSE THERE'S AN ALLEY AT HIS PROPERTY END LINE. SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO COME IN AND COME OUT VEHICLES THAT ARE BEING DELIVERED, TOW TRUCKS AND SUCH WILL COME IN AND COME OUT. SO THERE IS NO IN AND OUT, IN AND OUT BECAUSE HE ONLY HAS RIGHT NOW JUST RAMPED ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND HIS, HIS, UH, PROPERTY IS VERY SLENDER, SO HE HAS TO COME IN AND COME OUT IN THE SAME PLACE. SO YES, SOMETIMES THERE IS SOME VEHICLES THAT PARK, NOT PARK PERMANENTLY, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE PARKED SO THAT THEY CAN GET IN AND OUT. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. RIGHT. AND WE DID SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, IF YOU COULD TELL ON THE NORTH, ON THE SOUTH RAMP, YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE WHERE YOU CAN COME IN AND OUT. SOME OF THE PROPERTY, UH, ISSUES IS ALSO BEING ABLE TO SEE AS YOU'RE ACTUALLY COMING TO THE CORNER AND ACTUALLY TAKING A LEFT. YOU SEE THIS TREE ON THE NORTH, IF YOU SEE THE TREE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE, NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT TREE IS ACTUALLY NOT THERE. HE HAS AN ACTUAL BUSH NOW. AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO JUST STARTED TO DO THE SIDEWALK JUST RECENTLY. AND HE'S PLANNING TO ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, THIS, THE PARKING SPACES ALLOCATED EXACTLY FOR THE VEHICLES THAT HE'S GONNA BE WORKING ON. THE PROP, THE, UM, SO SORRY. YOU'RE GOOD. THAT'S BETTER. SO IF YOU COULD TELL THAT THIS IS A RAMP ON THE, ON THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE IMAGE, THAT LOWER IMAGE, YOU CAN ENTER FROM THE BOTTOM LEFT AND THEN YOU CAN EXIT TO THE OTHER SIDE. SO THEREFORE THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE. IF THERE WAS A PARKING ISSUE. I MEAN, HE COULD ACTUALLY USE THE, UH, ALLEY TO PARK ALL THESE VEHICLES, BUT HE'S NOT, HE REALLY ISN'T THE ONE PARKING ALL OF THESE VEHICLES. SOME OF THEM JUST TEMPORARILY. AND LIKE WE SAID, WE'RE GONNA MITIGATE THAT BY BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND TELL THEM THIS IS A VEHICLE FROM THIS PROPERTY, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE HERE OVERNIGHT BECAUSE IT'S NOTED OR MAYBE HAS A CONE OR MAYBE HE HAS SOME SOMETHING HE COULD TELL THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HEY, THIS IS JUST TEMPORARY FOR AN HOUR OR TWO. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE VEHICLES ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS WITHIN THE PROPERTY. ANYTHING LEFT BEHIND ANY OF THE OTHER DIRTY THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE PAST, WE'VE ADDRESSED THEM. HE'S ALWAYS BEEN VERY WELCOMING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS. HE'S [00:55:01] HAD MANY MEETINGS WITH POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE BECAUSE THE, UH, THE CONTINUOUS COMPLAINT CO COMPLIANCE IS THAT PEOPLE CAN'T TURN LEFT FROM THAT PROPERTY. SO IF YOU ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY TURNING LEFT, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE I SHOW I'M SHOWING AN ACTUAL TREE NOW THEY SAY THEY CAN'T SEE BECAUSE THERE'S CARS THERE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ELEVATED. SO THE COPS COME OVER AND THEY ACTUALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THE OFFICERS TAKE A LOOK AT THE ACTUAL, UM, LINE OF SIGHT AND IT'S PERFECTLY FINE. IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE, BUT MR. GARCIA ACTUALLY TRIED TO ADDRESS IT MANY TIMES, BUT THERE IS QUITE A FEW NEIGHBORS THAT BELIEVE THAT THE ACTUAL, UM, PROPERTY IS NOT OF THE COMPLIANCE. THUS, THIS IS OUR ANSWER TO THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE UP TO C3 SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE THE PROPERTY BEST WAY POSSIBLE. AND THEN, UM, CAN YOU SAY WHAT KINDS OF VEHICLE REPAIRS ARE TAKING PLACE ON SITE? THERE WILL NONE. NOW. WE, AFTER WE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AS I AS SAID, MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY AND AS MR. SANCHEZ PREVIOUS, THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPEAKING OUT. WE WILL NOT DO ANY VEHICLE MAINTENANCE WITH ANY LIQUIDS AT ALL. AND THAT IS A MITIGATION PROCESS THAT WE'RE GONNA DO. SO WITH NO, NO OIL CHANGES, NO CAR WASHING, NONE OF THAT STUFF'S GONNA HAPPEN. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO AS FAR AS LIKE WE'RE REFILLING SOMETHING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY PURCHASED THE VEHICLE, SO THIS IS GONNA BE MUCH MORE UP STANDARD, LIKE A MUCH MORE UPSCALE KIND OF DEALERSHIP VERSUS THE PREVIOUS DEALERSHIP THAT WE WERE, UM, THE PREVIOUS DEALERSHIP BECAUSE HE ONLY HAD A A, A SLIVER, BUT BECAUSE HE ACQUIRED THAT OTHER EXTRA PROPERTY, HE BELIEVES THAT HE COULD DO A BETTER JOB BY ACTUALLY MITIGATING THE ENTRY AND OUT. WHAT ABOUT VEHICLE PAINTING? THERE WILL NOT BE ANY VEHICLE PAINTING OR ANY AUTO BODY WORKS OR ANY OF THOSE SORTS. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO CLARIFY. I AM SORRY. SO I WAS LOOKING AT THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE MAP, BUT WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT ORIGINALLY WERE, BECAUSE IT'S 4 0 2 AND 4 0 6, SO 4 0 2 IS THE ONE THAT DOES HAVE AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING USE FOR AUTO SALES. 4 0 6 IS NOT PART OF THAT AUTO SALES. AND IT DOES HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THEY ARE STORING VEHICLES OUT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. PROFIT. SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ONE, UM, ON THE SITE PLAN YOU SHOWED PARKING, IT ONLY SHOWED ABOUT THREE OR FOUR CARS WHERE THE GOOGLE MAP SHOWS DOZENS. WHAT IS THE PARKING REQUIREMENT AND THE CODE FOR THAT USE FOR AUTO SALES, I GUESS WOULD BE THE, LET, LET ME LOOK REAL QUICK. SO FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES, UM, AUTO AND MOTOR VEHICLE SALES, THEY JUST HAVE THE ONE PER, UM, ONE SPACE PER 500 SQUARE FEET OF THE SALES OFFICE AND OR THE SERVICE BUILDING. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT IT'S BASED OFF OF THE MINIMUM PARKING FOR THE, UM, ACTUAL OFFICE SPACE. OFFICE SPACE, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. FOR, FOR CUSTOMERS NOT NECESSARILY FOR, NOT NECESSARILY FOR AUTOMOBILES FOR THAT WOULD BE PARKING. YEAH. NOT FOR THE MERCHANDISE. RIGHT, EXACTLY. FOR THE OFFICE SPACE. AND IN LIGHT THAT, THAT THEY'VE INDICATED THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO ANY REPAIRS, OIL CHANGES, PAINTING, DOES THAT CHANGE, UH, ZONING AND ZONING DISTRICTS? IS THAT PERMITTED UNDER C TWO IS AUTO SALES ONLY FOR C3? AUTO SALES IS ONLY FOR C3. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES ASIDE AND ZONING IS A DIFFERENT, UH, PURVIEW. I JUST DON'T THINK LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA. SO I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER MILAN, ON THE, UH, THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SHOWED US, IT INDICATES A CAR DETAIL, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THERE? UM, BUT MAINLY VEHICLES GET DIRTY. THEY'RE IN THE, UH, THROWAWAY. SERGEANT LA MORRIS IS A VERY HEAVILY TRANSITED, UM, UH, STREET AND THEREFORE MOST LIKELY GONNA BE DUSTY. UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST [01:00:01] A NICE WIPE DOWN AND THAT'S IT BEFORE THE VEHICLES GO ON, OR EVERY SO OFTEN, UH, DOING A WIPE DOWN FOR THE VEHICLES THAT ARE THERE IN, UM, BEING DISPLAYED SO THAT IT COULD BE SOLD. I DON'T KNOW, MY CAR DIDN'T WIPE DOWN THAT EASY. . AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THESE ARE USED CAR SALES. UM, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, WE DO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT COULD ACTUALLY JUST DO THE WIPE DOWNS AND SO ON. AND, AND IT'S NOT THAT EASY. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. BUT IF WE DO, AND WE DID DO SOME RESEARCH, UH, BECAUSE WE WERE GONNA DO SOME OF THE MITIGATION AND MAYBE THE GRAY WATER RE IRRIGATION AND SO FORTH BECAUSE IT WAS AN ISSUE, UM, WE DECIDED TO JUST COMPLETELY LEAVE IT ALONE AND DO TAKE THE VEHICLES DOWN THE STREET. THERE'S ANOTHER CAR WASH ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY WASH THEM THERE AND THEN BRING 'EM BACK. YEAH, IF THAT WAS THE CASE. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UM, MY QUESTION, I HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT'S PRETTY SIMILAR TO COMMISSIONER PROFIT'S QUESTION. UM, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR SITE PLAN? CURRENTLY WE HAVE ABOUT, I THINK I SAID ABOUT 15 AND, UM, THE LEFT HAND SIDE HAS ABOUT 10, AND THEN THE RIGHT SIDE IS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE. AND THEN THE SERVICE ONES SORT OF BOTTOM RIGHT. UM, SERVICE DOESN'T REALLY MEAN SERVICE, IT REALLY JUST MEANS INSPECTION PRIOR TO ACTUALLY VEHICLES BEING TAKEN ON THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET 'EM SOLD. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO DRIVE OFF, UH, VEHICLES, BUT THEY ARE NOT PREPARED OR THEY'RE NOT READY CHANGING A LIGHT BULB, UH, CHANGING, UH, I DON'T KNOW, UM, A BLINKER, YOU KNOW, THE BLINK OF FLUID THAT WE TALK ABOUT, ALL OF US, RIGHT? UM, THINGS THAT ARE, THINGS THAT ARE JUST GONNA BE VERY MINIMAL THINGS BEFORE THE ACTUAL PEOPLE GO OUT ON THE ROAD. AND IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THEIR PURCHASE, YOU CAN COME BACK AND ACTUALLY GET IT SERVICED OR LOOKED AT. BUT NOT, NONE OF THE OIL CHANGES, NONE OF THE ACTUAL CAR WASHING, NONE OF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THERE. SO, SO THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL PHOTO, YOU KNOW, IT SHOWS WELL OVER THE NUMBER OF CARS ON THE PROPERTY, PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES YOU'RE PROPOSING. SO ARE YOU GONNA LIMIT THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ON THE PROPERTY TO THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT YOU HAVE OR HOW, HOW, HOW ARE YOU GONNA ADDRESS THAT ISSUE? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PROVIDING AN ACTUAL EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE THAT COME OVER AND PURCHASE THE VEHICLE, IT'S NOT JUST THE PARKING SPACE THAT, OH, I GOT THIS ONE, I GOT THAT ONE. PEOPLE JUST WALK TO THE FRONT. BUT THE ACTUAL EXPERIENCE WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY WALK THROUGH FROM BOTH ENDS AND I TOLD THEM WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL SPACES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED AND YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ENOUGH SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY GET IN AND GET OUT WITHOUT HAVING TO BE SO SLAMMED. AND SO BE, THAT'S WHY WE CAME UP WITH THE ACTUAL, UH, PARKING SPACES. IT'S A SEVEN FOOT, UH, WIDE BY, UM, 11 FOOT LONG SPARKING SPACES. AND THAT'S WHY WE MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF SPACES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A TRANSITION IN BETWEEN SMALL COMPACT CARS UP TO LARGER VEHICLES AND THEY COULD PARK IN THE SAME PARKING SPACE AGAIN, IF WE MINIMIZE THE, IF WE EMPLOY AND LEVERAGE THAT SOUTH PROPERTY NOW THAT IT IS ACTUALLY ACQUIRED, WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE WITH A VERY NICE SPACING SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE VEHICLES. AND IT'S AN ACTUAL EXPERIENCE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE VERSUS JUST A PARKING LOT WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND GET A CAR. AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE MR. GARCIA IS, IS COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE LOOK A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT IT ACTUALLY CURRENTLY IS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE. HE'S GROWING IN ABOUT 20 YEARS OR SO. YEAH. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, OUR PURVIEW HERE AT PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY IS THE, IS THE PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH REVOLVES AROUND THE, THE LAND USE, RIGHT? YES SIR. SO IT'S CURRENTLY LOW DENSITY MIXED USE AND YOU'RE REQUESTING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. UM, AND EVERYTHING AROUND THERE IS EITHER MIXED USE OR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, LOW DENSITY MIXED USE. NOWHERE IS THERE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AND IT'S, TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THE, INTO THE FABRIC OF WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. 'CAUSE THERE'S NO INDUSTRIAL ANYWHERE. THAT IS CORRECT. UM, AND IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY INTENSIVE USE. SO I GUESS WHAT, UM, KELLY, WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER IS THAT, UM, THERE'S NO OTHER LAND USE THAT COULD FIT AUTO SALES OTHER THAN WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR HERE AGAIN, UM, AUTO SALES ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN C3 AND THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS THE ONLY LAND USE THAT WOULD ALIGN WITH THE C3 BASED ZONING. AND AUTO SALES IS A C3 ONLY THING. SO IT'S, THAT IS PERMITTED BY WRIGHT. CORRECT. YEAH. THAT IS OUR BIGGEST ISSUE AND WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S JUST THAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE DOING THE CONTINUOUS NONCONFORMING AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO DO. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I CAN APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT SOMEONE'S TRYING TO IMPROVE THEIR BUSINESS AND GROW IT AND IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY, BUT TO ME THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL JUST DOESN'T, DOESN'T FIT. I THINK IF THERE'S ANOTHER AVENUE IT SHOULD BE EXPLORED. YES, SIR. I MEAN IT, WE HAVE ALWAYS OFFERED THE C TWO CD. OPTION C TWO P [01:05:01] IS A PERMITTED ZONING OR A C ONE CD C ONE IS PERMITTED IN THE EXISTING LAND USE, WHICH HAS BEEN, UM, DESCRIBED TO THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER. UM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO GO FOR THE C3 JUST SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A CONDITIONAL USE AND THE SITE PLAN AND ALL THAT. YEAH. BUT I WILL ALSO SAY C3 USES ARE LIKE AUTO SALES, AUTO REPAIR, ALSO BARS. THOSE ARE REASONS WHY STAFF RECOMMENDS TRYING TO KEEP IT WITH A LOWER ZONING OR LOWER, UM, LAND USE. I THINK I, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO GO WITH THE CONDITIONAL LAND USE AND THE LOWER INTENSITY, BUT THAT'S, IF, IF THAT'LL GET, GET IT THROUGH, THAT'S I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO EXPLORE. SO C TWO. OKAY, SURE. OR WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT. ANYWAY, IS THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MO MOTION WOULD BE TO SUPPORT THIS STAFF'S POSITION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. AND I'LL SECOND AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIEGEL STAFF, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER MILAM? YES. UH, COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. CHAIR PECK? YES. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. I WOULD WORK WITH STAFF ON ANOTHER AVENUE TO GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET DONE. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING. APPRECIATE IT. YEP. MM-HMM . THANK YOU. UH, SINCE WE DID THE MINUTES WITH THE CONSENT, WE'RE DONE WITH THAT. IS THERE ANY STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? NONE AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT, WELL SINCE WE'RE DONE, IT IS THREE 14 AND WE WILL ADJOURN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.