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THE TIME IS NOW NINE O'CLOCK ON 15 MAY, 2025.
WELCOME TO THE SAN ANTONIO BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.
I'M THE CHAIR FOR THE BOARD THIS MORNING.
UH, IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS AND LUCINDA ROSCO FROM CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
DANNY LIGA, CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR MICHAEL ESTI, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER.
ALICE GUO, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER.
JENNIFER MARTINEZ, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
TWO ES DO ORTIZ DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST ONE.
THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROVIDES TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ALL MEETINGS.
UH, IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE A SPANISH TRANSLATION OF THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE.
PLEASE SIGN AT YOUR CELL PHONES OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR.
IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK REGARDING ANY AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE SIGN IN ON THE PERSONS TO BE HEARD SHEET OR ADVISE A CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF MEMBER.
ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK SHALL BE CALLED FORWARD WHEN THE RESPECTIVE CASES IS REACHED.
PLEASE NOTE THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON PRESENT IN THIS BUILDING TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
AS PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 36.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE NEED TO READ TO RECORD? THERE ARE NONE.
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HAVE RECEIVED, UH, OR AT LEAST I RECEIVED, AND I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYONE ELSE HAS RECEIVED THE DRAFT MINUTES FROM FIVE DECEMBER, 2024.UH, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? IF NOT, THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM.
MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS DRAFTED FOR FIVE DECEMBER, 2024.
SO UNANIMOUS APPROVAL, UH, WE DO HAVE
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ONE, UH, PROPERTY THAT WAS, UH, UH, EMERGENCY DEMOLISHED.LET'S LET THE STAFF READ THAT INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS ALICE GUDO, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER.
UH, THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE 18 UNION WAS, WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY ON MAY 1ST, 2025 DUE TO THE EXTENSIVE FIRE, WHICH OCCURRED ON APRIL 24TH, 2025.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS? THERE ARE NONE.
UH, DO WE WANT TO DO THE CEREMONY ISSUE OR IS MS. FRANKS GONNA BE AVAILABLE? WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
WE DO HAVE TWO CEREMONIAL ITEMS. WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FOR MR. THOMAS FRANKS, WHO WAS APPOINTED TO THE BSB ON JANUARY 11TH, 2024.
HIS MEMBERSHIP WAS A PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY MANAGER, AND UNFORTUNATELY, MR. FRANKS RESIGNED ON APRIL 4TH, 2025.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FOR COURTNEY ROSEN.
SHE WAS APPOINTED TO THE BSB ON AUGUST 8TH, 2024.
MS. ROSEN WAS A COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT REPRESENTATIVE, AND UNFORTUNATELY, MS. ROSEN DID ALSO RESIGN ON MAY 9TH, 2025.
SHE WAS A MEMBER OF PANEL B MS. ROSEN.
UM, HER TERM ENDED ALSO MAY 31ST, AND SHE DID NOT INTEND TO REAPPLY FOR THE BSB.
AND THANKS TO THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE TO THE CITY, UH, AS WELL AS THE, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
THE, UH, FOUR, FIVE, EXCUSE ME, FOR 15 MAY, 2025.
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STANDARDS BOARD WILL RECESS FROM THE OPENING MEETING AND CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL TO DISCUSS ATTORNEY-CLIENT MATTERS PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.THE TIME IS NOW 10 10 11 ON 15 MAY, 2025, UH, AND THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD WILL NOW RECONVENE AN OPEN SECTION.
WERE TAKEN IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, WE ARE FORTUNATE TODAY TO HAVE WITH US THE EXECUTIVE, UH, OR THE, THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR WHO WILL BE PROVIDING INFORMATION, UH, THEORETICALLY TO US.
UH, SO IF WE COULD, LET'S GET THAT REPORT.
HE'S LOOKING LIKE, UH, WHO WE, WE DID PROMOTE YOU.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THE PROMOTION.
SO DANNY LEAGUE IS CO ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR.
SO I WILL BE GOING OVER THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR'S REPORT THIS MORNING.
UM, SO ON THE BOARD THERE, YOU SEE THERE IS TODAY, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE, UH, AN FY 25 YEAR TO DATE, UM, UPDATE ON OUR GOALS AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES.
UM, SO FOR FY 25 RIGHT NOW, UM, JUST COLLECTIVELY, WE'VE DONE OVER 69,000.
WE'RE CLOSE TO SIX TO 9,000 CASES OR INVESTIGATIONS, IF YOU WILL.
WE SEE ON THE, UM, ON THAT COLUMN, YEAR TO DATE ON THE FAR RIGHT, UM, OF THOSE, THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WELL LINKED TO OUR COMPLIANCE RATE AND OUR, OUR PROACTIVITY.
SO RIGHT NOW, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A RESPONSE RATE, PRODUCTIVITY AND COMPLIANCE RATE.
UM, OUR RESPONSE RATE FOR OUR TIER ONES AND TIER TWOS, UM, ARE DIFFERENT BY ONE DAY.
RIGHT? OUR TIER ONES ARE TWO DAYS.
UH, AND OUR TIER TWOS ARE, ARE THREE DAYS IN EITHER CASE.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE BELOW, UH, THE TWO DAY MARKER.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT, UH, FOR TIER ONES, WE'RE AT 1.23 DAYS, AND FOR TIER TWOS WE'RE AT 1.34 DAYS.
RIGHT? SO AGAIN, JUST BELOW, UH, THE TWO DAY MARKER, UH, COMPLIANCE RATE AND PRODUCTIVITY, UM, OUR GOAL IS 65%.
UM, WE'RE AT 81% FOR THE YEAR TO DATE.
SO, UM, THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY GOOD MARKER THERE.
AND OVERALL COMPLIANCE RATE, OUR GOAL IS 90, WE'RE AT 92%.
SO IN REGARDS TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE TEAMS ARE DOING VERY WELL.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S EVIDENT BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT WE HAVE HERE TO DATE.
IN REGARDS TO A GRAFFITI ABATEMENT TEAM, UM, OUR NUMBER OF SITES ABATED, OUR GOAL IS 50,000 SITES PER YEAR.
UM, AS OF, UH, AGAIN, THROUGH YEAR TO DATE, WE'RE JUST, UH, OVER 38,000 SITES AT THIS POINT.
AND OUR TURNAROUND IS THREE DAYS, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, ONE DAY TURNAROUND.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT THIS POINT.
UH, SO OUR GRAFFITI IS GETTING ABATED QUICKER.
SO WHENEVER IT'S REPORTED A CALL ON THREE ONE ONE, OUR TEAMS ARE GOING OUT THERE WITHIN THE DAY TO GET THAT GRAFFITI ABATED.
SO AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO SHARE QUICKLY A HIGH LEVEL THE, UM, THE GOALS AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES WHERE WE'RE AT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, KATIE.
THE, THE THREE YEAR AVERAGE, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? IS THAT A THREE YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE WEIGHTED MONTHLY, OR IS CORRECT? LIKELY WEIGHTED AVERAGE FOR APRIL, CORRECT? IT'S, SO IT'S WEIGHTED MONTHLY.
SO THE THREE YEAR AVERAGE, UM, IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE OVERALL MONTHLY PERFORMANCE.
THE OVERALL TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES.
AND THEN DIVIDED BY THE 36TH, CORRECT? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE JUST PUT MONTHLY, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'LL UPDATE THAT IN THE NEXT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DANNY, WHAT IS YOUR BENCHMARK FOR JUST, UM, LIKE THE METRIC YOU'RE USING TO BENCHMARK SUCCESS IN YOUR RATES? SO THE, UH, SO OUR COMPLIANCE RATE, UM, WELL, THERE'S THREE BENCHMARKS WE LOOK AT, RIGHT? WE LOOK AT THE RESPONSE TIME, UM, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT IS IT'S THE TWO TO THREE DAY MARKER, RIGHT? WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THERE QUICKER, UM, TO ADDRESS THE INITIAL COMPLAINT THAT COMES TO OUR OFFICE OR THROUGH US, RIGHT? UH, WE HAVE A PROACTIVENESS THAT WE LOOK AT AS WELL.
SO OUR GOAL FOR PRODUCTIVITY, 65%, AND OUR COMPLIANCE RATE, UH, IS 90%.
SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA TAKE A FEW CASES THAT ARE GONNA PROBABLY GO BEYOND, UM, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
SO YEAH, THERE'S GONNA BE A FEW CASES THAT ARE GONNA STRIKE.
WELL, JUST FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT'S EITHER, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT THOSE MAY END UP IN COURT, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO DO A CITATION OR A CASE FILING OR MAYBE COMING TO BSB FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO WE KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE ABOUT 10% OF OUR CASELOAD THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, UM, TO ADDRESS.
BUT OVERALL, WE WANT TO ADDRESS ABOUT 90% OF OUR CASELOAD WITHIN 90, UH, EXCUSE ME, WITHIN THE, UM, THE, UH, 90% OF OUR CASELOAD WITHIN THE, THE, THE TIMEFRAME
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THAT WE HAVE ALLOTTED KIDS.WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH, UH, GRAFFITI ABATEMENT? GRAFFITI ABATEMENT RIGHT NOW? UM, I, I THINK WE'RE DOING VERY WELL.
OUR GOAL IS 50,000 SITES, RIGHT? SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL, AGAIN, FULLY STAFFED FINALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK OVERALL WE'RE, WE'RE ON TRACK TO MEET OUR GOAL, POSSIBLY EXCEED OUR GOAL AT THIS POINT.
UM, DOES BS OR DSD CO COMPLIANCE, ARE THEY THE ONES IN CHARGE OF, UH, LIKE THE TRASH SITES WHEN SOMEBODY DUMPS THE ILLEGAL DUMPING? WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THAT FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING? UM, SPECIFICALLY LIKE, IN REGARDS TO, JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND.
LIKE, LIKE, LIKE WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE AND THEY DRIVE BY THE STREET OR SOMETHING, LIKE, UH, YOU HEAR IT ON OCCASIONS, THE NEWS.
THEY HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE'S AN EMPTY LOT.
PEOPLE KEEP GOING AND DUMPING STUFF.
SAP D'S PUT CAMERAS AND STUFF THERE.
WHO'S ACTUALLY IN CHARGE OF THAT PROGRAM? SO I'M GONNA SAY THERE'S, THERE'S, IT'S PROBABLY COLLECTIVELY THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT TACKLE, UH, ILLEGAL DUMPING AT THIS POINT.
ONE CODE ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? TO EXAMPLE YOU PROVIDED IS IF THERE'S A VACANT LOT WITH SOME DUMPING ON THERE, WHETHER IT'S FURNITURE, BRUSH, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, UH, WE'LL ISSUE NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY ORDER TO CLEAN THAT LOT TO INCLUDE REMOVING WHATEVER ITEMS WERE ON THERE.
NOW, IF THEY DON'T DO IT, THEN WE HAVE THE ABATEMENT PROCESS THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH THE RIGHT, WE'LL GO OUT THERE AND PICK IT UP AND WITH A CONTRACTOR AND CHARGE 'EM THE COST OF CLEANUP.
RIGHT? NOW WE DO HAVE SOLID WASTE AS WELL THAT IS INVOLVED WITH OUR, UM, ENCAMPMENT CLEANUPS, RIGHT? AND, AND SOME OF THE CLEANUPS THAT HAPPEN ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES, UM, AT THE REQUEST OF CODE ENFORCEMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAVE AN INTERSECTION WHERE MAYBE SOMEBODY DUMPS SOMETHING AND IT'S CAUSING A VISUAL OBSTRUCTION OR REALLY CAUSING AN IMMEDIATE HAZARD, WE'LL REACH OUT TO SOLID WASTE TO HELP US PICK THAT, SOME OF THAT STUFF UP.
PD ASSISTS US SOMETIMES FOR THOSE, UM, AREAS WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE KNOWN WHERE MAYBE THERE'S DUMPING OF SHINGLES, RIGHT? WE'VE HAD THAT INSTANTLY COME UP RECENTLY.
BUT THE REASON I ASK IS, 'CAUSE YOU KEEP UP WITH A GRAFFITI, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO AMOUNT IN HERE IN THE PROGRESS AND STUFF LIKE MM-HMM
NORMALLY YOU GIVE US A NUMBER, LIKE 500 THINGS WERE DONE, THIS ONE ZERO ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
UM, WHAT AM I LOOKING AT HERE? I'M SORRY? GRAFFITI ABATEMENT.
OH, THAT'S, THAT'S, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
IF YOU LOOK AT GRAFFITI ABATEMENT, THE RIGHT BELOW GRAFFITI ABATEMENT, IT'S GRAFFITI SITES ABATE IT AND TURNAROUND TIME, BUT WE DON'T KEEP UP WITH THE OTHER HALF OF, WE KEEP UP WITH THE GRAFFITI, BUT WE DON'T KEEP UP WITH WHAT THE COST IS ON THE ILLEGAL DUMPING.
I'M SURE ON THE BACK END, IF WE NEED TO PULL A SEPARATE REPORT FOR MAYBE LEGAL DUMPING CASES OR, UH, ABATEMENT DOLLARS SPENT ON ILLEGAL DUMPING, WE CAN PULL IT.
BECAUSE THAT AFFECTS YOUR BOTTOM LINE.
WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE HERE ALSO, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US THAT NUMBER LATER.
BUT THAT DOES AFFECT, AND IT, IT'S ADDED IN THAT NUMBER SOMEWHERE, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO IF, IF, IF, IF THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THIS AS A, AS EITHER A FOOTNOTE OR, BECAUSE AS, AS YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AS WELL.
UH, SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, SO I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING IF WE COULD PROVIDE IT OUR NEXT REPORT, IF YOU WILL, UM, COST SPENT ON ILLEGAL DUMPING, RIGHT.
AND A NUMBER OF CASES COST SPENT ON ILLEGAL DUMP, MAYBE EVEN SITES YEAH.
THE CASES, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OUT THERE THAT GET REPORTED.
AND YOU CAN DRIVE, WELL, I KNOW IN THE COUNTY ESPECIALLY, IT'S NOT CITIES YET, BUT IT'S RIGHT AT THAT BORDER WHERE THEY DROPPING TIRES AND FURNITURE AND EVERYTHING ELSE JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMIT.
BUT INSIDE THE CITY LIMIT, YOU HEAR IT ON THE NEWS A LOT WHERE SAP D'S PUT UP THOSE CAMERAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO CATCH GOTCHA.
UH, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE THAT REPORT, IF IT'S AFFECTING THIS BUDGET AS WELL.
WE'LL FOLLOW UP AFTER THIS MEETING AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR NEXT DISCUSSION, WHETHER, ARE YOU SUGGESTING MAYBE THE FULL BOARD MEETING THAT WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION OR, YEAH, THE NEXT, THE NEXT FULL BOARD.
THAT WAY IT GIVES US A, THE NUMBERS AREN'T GONNA BE ACCURATE FOR PROBABLY A LITTLE WHILE UNTIL ALL OF 'EM ARE CITED.
AND I'M NOT GONNA SAY PASS BECAUSE THAT'S PASSED, BUT IF WE CAN DO THAT FOR THE FUTURE TOO, BECAUSE IT, IT IT'S IN THE SAME AREA AS GRAFFITI.
WE'RE PUTTING, YOU'RE PUTTING MONEY OUT THERE AND RESOURCE.
MAN, HOURS AND RESOURCES ARE BEING COMMITTED TO THAT.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? DANNY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE, THE WAY THE THE BOARD ACTUALLY OPERATES ON A DAILY BASIS IN TERMS OF EACH OF ITS MEETINGS IS THROUGH ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS.
AND WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON ROBERT'S RULES.
ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT AN UPDATE NECESSARILY, BUT IT'S AGAIN, A REFRESHER COURSE ON ROBERT'S OF ORDER.
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AM I GONNA HAVE TO HOLD THE BUTTON THE WHOLE TIME? NO.IT'S BEEN A BEEN A COUPLE MINUTES SINCE WE SPOKE.
UM, I'M ERIC BURNS, UH, LEGAL COUNSEL.
AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS GO OVER THE ROBERT RULES OF ORDER.
UM, IF THERE IS A QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME, PLEASE.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA KIND OF JUST TALK IT THROUGH.
SO, UH, ROBERT RULES OF ORDER.
UM, IN ESSENCE WHAT WE'RE USING, WE USE THE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER TO KIND OF GET AN ORDER AND A PROCEDURE, UM, IN PLACE WHEN WE HAVE THE OPEN MEETINGS.
UM, GO AHEAD AND CLICK IT FOR ME.
AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE DO HAVE A CHAIR, UM, AND BOTH OF OUR, OUR CHAIRS FOR BOTH OUR PANELS ARE HERE TODAY.
THE CHAIR PROVIDES THE LEADERSHIP AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES, PROVIDING GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION, ENCOURAGING PART PARTICIPATION BY MEMBERS, WHICH I'VE ACTIVELY HEARD MR. NELSON DO ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.
AND I, I DO WANT TO COMMEND BOTH, UH, CHAIRS THAT I BELIEVE THAT, UH, BOTH OF YOU ARE, ARE WELL VERSED IN KNOWLEDGEABLE, EVEN THE MR. TAPIO WHEN YOU SUB IN ALSO, AND THE VICE CHAIR.
UH, AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THE MEMBERS, YOU GUYS ARE PARTICIPATING, UM, LISTENING, UM, ENCOURAGING.
BUT THE MEMBERS PARTICIPATE BY TAKING ACTIVE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE PARTS OF THE BOARD'S WORK ASSIST CHAIR IN CLEAR DEFINING THE AGENDA, RULES OF PROCEDURE.
SO I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT I'M IGNORING YOU.
ALRIGHT, SO THE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER, UM, THEY ARE WHAT WE USE TO, UH, PRESENT THE INFORMATION.
WE DO NOT FOLLOW IT STRICTLY IN REGARDS TO EVIDENCE.
THE RULES OF EVIDENCE AREN'T GOING TO STRICTLY APPLY HERE.
UH, UH, THE REGULAR COURTROOM RULES THAT WE USUALLY HAVE ARE NOT GOING TO, UM, UM, APPLY HERE.
THEY ARE MORE OF A GUIDELINE FOR US, AND THEY ARE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
AND OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW THAT THOSE POLICIES AND AND PROCEDURES ARE, ARE, ARE SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE FIRST WENT THROUGH TRAINING.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT.
'CAUSE JUDY HAS, UM, VERSED US ALL WELL ON THAT.
AND IT'S ALSO IN THE, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE.
WHY ARE WE USING THE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER? THIS IS ALLOWING EACH MEMBER TO PROVIDE THEIR OPINION, EXPRESS THEIR OPINION IN A RATIONAL, REASONABLE FAIRWAY, EVEN IF THOSE OPINIONS DIFFER FROM ANYBODY ELSE ON THE PANEL.
AND I DO WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, WE ENCOURAGE ROBUST COMMUNICATION DISCUSSION.
IF YOU AGREE, IF YOU DISAGREE, I CAN TELL YOU, UM, THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT, THAT, THAT MR. ANDIS USED TO HAVE ON THE BOARD, UH, MR. ZUNIGA, AND WE MISS HIM VERY MUCH.
BUT I COULD TELL YOU THEY USED TO BUTT HEADS ALL DAY LONG.
THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD, UH, POINT OF ORDER TO EACH EACH OTHER ALL DAY.
DO YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, THERE'S SOME OF YOU THAT DON'T REMEMBER THAT THEY WOULD POINT OF ORDER EACH OTHER ALL DAY LONG AND IT WAS GREAT.
AND I THINK THEY, I THINK THEY ENJOYED DOING IT TO EACH OTHER.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT
UM, IT IS GOOD AND IT'S HEALTHY TO HEAR YOU, UH, DISCUSS.
I KNOW THAT, UM, I KNOW KAYLA, SHE CAN BE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.
I KNOW MR. TAPIA CAN BE PASSIONATE ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.
I KNOW MR. NELSON IS VERY MATTER OF FACT.
I DO KNOW THAT MR. GRIMES WILL ASK A QUESTION AND I'M LIKE, OH, CRAP DUDE.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT I THINK THOSE, THAT, THAT IS HEALTHY, HEALTHY, ROBUST DISCUSSION AND DEBATE.
SO I CAN TELL YOU THE, THE, THE RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE, DESIGNATION OF TIME AND LOCATION OF THE REGULAR MEETINGS TOGETHER WITH THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROCEDURES, THE PROCEDURES FOR PLACING THESE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, THE MESSAGE TO COMPEL THE MEMBERS TO ATTEND.
LOOK, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT I, I'M, UH, THAT ARE LISTED ON HERE, LET'S BE HONEST, WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S JUDY.
I, I MEAN, IT IS, IT, IT IT IS YOU.
TELL ME, UM, HOW, AND I APOLOGIZE, IT'S JUDY AND HER TEAM.
DO ANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW WHEN THE HEARINGS ARE UNLESS YOU GET AN EMAIL FROM JUDY? 'CAUSE I DON'T.
AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE I'VE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM JUDY AND STILL FORGOT.
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IT'S HAPPENED.UM, WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA? I, AGAIN, I RELY ON JUDY.
UM, SO WELL, THESE ARE THE RULES, UH, THE RULES OF ORDER AND PROCEDURE.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY, AGAIN, ARE ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE.
SO I THINK ALL OF YOU KNOW HOW WE DO THE MOTIONS.
UM, AND YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PHRASING IS GREAT.
UM, YOU ALSO HAVE, UH, I, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE WATCHING.
SO YOU PRETTY MUCH HAVE THE, HE YOU HAVE THE SCRIPT IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, A BUSINESS POSTED ON AN AGENDA TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD.
I MOVE THAT YOU ALWAYS NEED, UH, THAT MOTION TO BE SECONDED.
UM, UH, NEITHER THE MAKING OR SECONDING OF THE MOTION, PLACES THAT MATTER BEFORE THE BODY.
THE CHAIR MUST STATE THE QUESTION TO PLACE IT, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE.
I CAN TELL YOU MR. ANDES DOES THAT.
NEXT ONE, THE CHAIR ENDS DEBATE AND RESTATES THE MOTION VOTING IS EITHER YES OR NO.
UH, CHAIR USUALLY ANNOUNCES THE RESULT.
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WE DO IT, UM, UH, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF, OF, UH, THE, THE BSBA, EXCUSE ME, BS THE BSB TEAM.
AND WHEN I SAY THAT, UM, I MEAN, UH, JUDY, ESTHER, AND, UM, AND, AND JENNIFER.
SO, UM, UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE NOT THAT YOU GUYS DON'T ALREADY KNOW THIS, BUT THEY'RE, THERE'S, THEY'RE VALUABLE NOT JUST TO YOU GUYS, OKAY? THEY'RE SUPER VALUABLE TO ME.
AND LUCINDA CHAIR ANNOUNCES THE EFFECT OF THE VOTE.
THE MOTION PASSES, THE MOTIONS FAILED.
I DO KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAVE A, UM, UM, THE CHAIR ASKS FOR ACCOUNT, I DO KNOW THAT, UH, UH, UH, JUDY'S TEAM, WE, WE, I THINK WE NEED LIKE A NAME FOR YOU GUYS ANYWAY.
UH, JUDY'S TEAM WILL SIT THERE AND, AND, AND ASK THE QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, SOMETIMES IT'S THE, THE, THE CHAIR, BUT WE ALSO USE, UM, OUR BSB TEAM.
SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO GO ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.
A MEMBER MAY CHANGE, RIGHT? MAYBE THEY HAVE A MEMBER MAY CHANGE HIS OR HER VOTE UP UNTIL THE TIME THAT THE CHAIR ANNOUNCES THE RESULT OF THE VOTE.
AFTER THAT, THE MEMBER MAY CHANGE THE VOTE ONLY BY UNANIM PERMISSION ON THE BOARD.
AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVER HAPPENED HERE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S EVER BEEN A TIME WHERE WE'VE HAD, UM, WE'VE GOT THE VOTE AND THEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.
AND THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND THROUGH A UNANIMOUS DECISION.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THE BOARD KNOWS THAT THAT OPTION IS HERE.
IF YOU, YOU KNOW, AFTER A WHILE, YOU, YOU VOTED ONE WAY BUT DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE IT.
YOU HAVE THAT, THAT AUTHORITY.
AND I WOULD ALSO ASK IF YOU END UP WANTING TO CHANGE YOUR VOTE, I DO KNOW THAT THAT, UH, PERMISSION NEEDS TO BE DONE, UH, WITH A UNANIMOUS DECISION BY THE BOARD.
BUT I ALSO URGE YOU TO GIVE A REASON AS TO WHY A JUSTIFICATION.
SO, UH, THE BOARD CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION IF THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CHANGING OF THE VOTE.
JUST AS A PIECE OF INFORMATION.
AND THE REASON IT'S HAPPENED IN, IN ONE CASE, WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A TIE VOTE BY A RESULT OF AN, UH, ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO ABSTAINED FROM VOTING.
AND AS A RESULT, SO WE COULD CLOSE THE ACTION.
I ACTUALLY CHANGED MY MOTION, UH, AND IT WAS ACCEPTED BY UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ALSO WANTED TO GET THE CASE CLOSED.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I DO REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE CORRECT.
AND WE DIDN'T WANNA RESET IT BECAUSE IT WAS GONNA BE THE SAME THING IF WE RESET MM-HMM
OKAY? UH, UNANIMOUS CONSENT AND ACTION CAN BE TAKEN BY GENERAL UNANIMOUS CONSENT, USUALLY TO ADJOURN THE MEETINGS.
THESE ARE USUALLY, UH, UH, VOTES THAT ARE, I DON'T WANNA SAY INCONSEQUENTIAL, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT IN REGARDS TO A PROPERTY, THEY'RE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING, OR PROCEDURAL ONES.
AN ORIGINAL MAIN MOTION BRINGS BUSINESS BEFORE THE BOARD CAN BE INTRODUCED.
ONLY WHEN NO OTHER MOTION IS PENDING.
MOTION MADE AND SECONDED TO BY FIVE NEW COMPUTERS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE BROUGHT THAT, BUT, UM, THE MAIN MOTION CAN BE DEBATED, CAN BE AMENDED.
CAN YOU DEBATE A MOTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN SECONDED? NO.
IT HAS TO BE SECONDED AND THEN DEBATED AND THEN VOTED.
I, I JUST, I JUST CREATED INTERACTIVE.
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AFTER SECONDED, UH, CAN ONLY BE CHANGED OR WITHDRAWN WITH CONSENT OF THE PERSON WHO SECONDED THAT MOTION.
SO ONCE A MOTION IS SECONDED, ROBUST DEBATE.
UM, MR. TAPIA, LET'S SAY YOU, YOU, YOU SECONDED THE MOTION.
AND, BUT MR. SOLIS WANTS TO, HE WANTS TO, TO PULL HIS MOTION OR CHANGE IT.
HE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION.
SO, UM, IT WOULD BE THE SAME WITH AN AMENDMENT, CORRECT? AMENDMENT CAN'T BE PRODUCED UNLESS THE FIRST PERSON, WHAT TYPE OF AMENDMENT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ANY AMENDMENT TO WHATEVER THE MOTION IS.
OH, IF YOU, IT HAS TO BE SECONDED BEFORE AN AMENDMENT'S EVEN.
ARE WE TALKING THE 14TH AMENDMENT? OKAY.
NO, NO, THAT'S JUST, JUST ME MESSING WITH YOU.
WE COULD PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB THAN SOME PEOPLE.
ANY MEMBER WHO BELIEVES THAT ANOTHER MEMBER IS BREAKING THE RULES, MAY CALL IT TO ATTENTION BY MAKING A POINT OF ORDER.
POINT OF ORDER, IS DIRECTED TO THE CHAIR OR PRESIDING OFFICER WHO THEN RESOLVES THE PROBLEM.
UM, WE ALL KNOW, AND LET'S BE, LET'S BE REAL.
WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN HERE A NUMBER OF HOURS SOMETIMES ON PROPERTIES.
UM, AND WHILE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU AS A BOARD WANT TO GET ALL THE FACTS AND INFORMATION BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION, IF YOU BELIEVE ONE OF YOUR, YOUR MEMBERS IS, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND, THEN CALL POINT OF ORDER.
I'M NOT TELLING YOU TO, 'CAUSE I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I'D MUCH RATHER BE, BE HANGING OUT WITH YOU GUYS THAN SITTING IN MY OFFICE.
'CAUSE I, I'M NOW NOTICING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SUMMER COMES AROUND, THIS IS MUCH COOLER THAN WHAT MY OFFICE IS
BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT A POINT OF ORDER IS NOT TO LIKE, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE A, A DIG AT EACH OTHER.
I, I DO BELIEVE, AND, AND ZUNIGA KIND OF USED IT THAT WAY, BUT IT SHOULD BE MORE OF A LET'S GET US BACK ON TRACK.
LET'S KIND OF GET US BACK TO WHAT WE ARE, UM, WHAT WE ARE, UH, SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS BOARD HAS EVER MADE ANY SILLY EMOTIONS THAT I CAN, I CAN RECALL.
UM, UH, WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT HAVE DONE ONE THAT MIGHT BE OUTSIDE OF THE AUTHORITY OF THE BOARD.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT JUST MIGHT BE A, A, A SIMPLE MISTAKE.
AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW IF, IF THIS BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT.
I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE PUSHED THE LIMITS IN THE, IN, UH, AT TIMES WHERE I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, I, I'M, I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD WANTS TO DO, UH, LUCINDA AND I ARE GONNA TRY TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS CAN, I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU NO, I WANT TO SEE IF I CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A, A LEGAL REASON AS, AS THAT, THAT CAN JUSTIFY A YES.
ALRIGHT? MOTIONS THAT ARE REALLY, NOT MOTIONS, BUT AN ATTACK ON A FELLOW MEMBER.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN, AN ISSUE HERE.
AND REPEATED MOTION WHEN IT FAILED THE FIRST TIME.
AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE.
SO I I, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS BOARD IS, HAS, UM, PRESENTED ANY IMPROPER MOTIONS OTHER THAN THAT MIGHT BE OUT OF YOUR PURVIEW OR YOUR, YOUR AUTHORITY.
BUT AGAIN, IF, IF, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WANT TO, UM, ORDER NHSD TO MAKE SOMEBODY AVAILABLE AND TO HELP SOMEBODY IN REGARDS TO, UM, HOUSING OR, OR REPAIRS TO THE HOUSE, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD IS GONNA BE ALLOWED TO DO.
AND I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY.
OKAY? UM, MR. ROBERT TAPIA, MAYBE I HAD A QUESTION ONE TIME.
AND INSTEAD OF GETTING RIGHT TO THE RESET, THE REASON FOR THE RESET AND A FINAL ANSWER TO THE RESET, I STARTED GETTING INTO THE PROPER SCRIPT FOR A MOTION
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE LEGAL COUNSEL.
UM, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS LOOK GOOD, SO THANK YOU.
YOU KNOW, LOOK,
UM,
LET'S, LET'S TRY TO GO THROUGH IT.
IT'S GOING TO BE UP FOR DEBATE.
THEN YOU HAVE SOME ARROWS GOING TO, WHETHER YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR IT AND TAKE ACTION, OR IT SAYS NO.
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UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TABLE REFERRED TO, TO THE COMMITTEE IS.'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY HAVE A COMMITTEE.
SO, LISTEN, THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
THIS BOARD HAS A MOTION IN FRONT OF THEM.
IT'S SECONDED, IT'S GONNA BE DEBATED.
THEN YOU'RE GONNA, UM, VOTE ON IT.
IF IT FAILS, THEN WE WILL START OVER AGAIN.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO ANY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA TABLE ANYTHING OR REFER SOMETHING TO A COMMITTEE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE BRINGING ANYTHING FROM THE TABLE, UNLESS IT'S THE TABLE OVER THERE WHERE LUNCHES.
'CAUSE I USUALLY GET HUNGRY AND IT'S ROUGHLY AROUND 12 OR ONE WE DO DURING THE S-A-P-M-C EDITS.
THE S-A-P-M-C EDITS, THAT'S WHEN WE TABLE ITEMS. OH, OKAY.
AND DO YOU GUYS USE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE S-A-P-M-C STUFF? YES.
WELL, AS, AS YOU DID SEE IN MY PREVIOUS SLIDE, UM, ROBERT RULES OF ORDER IS NOT, IT'S NOT STRICTLY FOLLOWED, BUT, YEAH.
SO MAYBE THIS IS, IS IS TO SOMETHING MORE THAT YOU GUYS DO WITH THE S-A-P-M-C EVALUATIONS OR WHATEVER? I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE THAT.
I HAVE SEEN US TABLE IT FROM A MOTION OR TABLE AND REFER IT TO A COMMITTEE.
I BELIEVE THIS BOARD IS PRETTY WELL VERSED ON HOW TO HANDLE AND DO THE MOTIONS.
I COULD TELL YOU IF BY SOME CHANCE JUDY'S LOOKING AT ME, 'CAUSE I SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING, UH, MOST LIKELY THE CHAIR OF VICE CHAIR HAS ALREADY CAUGHT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO, UM, ON THAT, I THINK WHERE IT SAYS TO THE TABLE MM-HMM
I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE RESET, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD USE THE RESET BECAUSE WE'RE AT TABLING, IT KIND OF RESET UNTIL WE EITHER GET MORE INFORMATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I, I STILL THINK THAT, UM, WHILE, WHILE YOU MIGHT BE, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, THAT'S STILL A MOTION THAT'S VOTED FOR A YES OR NO.
AND IF THIS BOARD VOTES TO RESET A PROPERTY AND THEY VOTE YES, THEN WE TAKE THAT ACTION AND THE PROPERTY GETS RESET.
SO YOU, YOU, YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, BUT, UM, I'M, WHAT I'M NOT GONNA DO IS, UH, TRY TO BRING THIS, UM, THIS BOARD'S FOCUS TO, UH, I GUESS THE, THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FLOW CHART.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS PRETTY EASY, HUH? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I I HAVE ONE WHERE IT SAYS HERE WHERE IT SAYS DISCUSSION OR DEBATE AFTER THE SECOND.
WE ALWAYS PUT THE AMENDMENT BEFORE THE DISCUSSION AND DEBATE.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO TIMES WHERE YOU GUYS DO, UM, WHAT IS IT? A FRIENDLY, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
BUT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT USUALLY COMES AFTER DEBATE.
LIKE YOU, YOU'LL START SAYING IT.
UH, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S, UH, DISCONNECT UTILITIES.
SO YOU, THAT, THAT AMEND THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
UM, 'CAUSE I, I LIKE OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR AMENDMENTS ARE FRIENDLY.
UM, I THINK THEY USUALLY COME AFTER, AFTER DEBATE, AFTER THE DISCUSSION HAPPENS.
THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE WOULD PUT AN AMENDMENT AND THEN WE WOULD, LIKE, AFTER THE SECOND, THEN WE WOULD AMEND AND THEN AGREED.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A DEBATE, OR IT'S DEBATE AMENDMENT.
OUR, OUR OURS IS LOOSEY GOOSEY.
WE ARE WITHIN THE FOUR CORNERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FINAL QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.
THE, THE NEXT ONE IS, IS YOU WANT ME TO, PRIMARILY, I GUESS FOR ME,
SO IF WE COULD, LET'S HAVE A BOARD PRESENTATION ON ETHICS CODE.
I AM NEWER TO THIS DIVISION, UM, BUT I'M NOT NEW TO THE LAW.
I'VE BEEN AN ATTORNEY FOR GOING ON ALMOST ON 27 YEARS.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
ALL MY SCHOOLING IS ALSO LOCAL.
I WENT TO BRISCOE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
THEN I WENT TO HARRIS BRACKENRIDGE, TRINITY UNIVERSITY, AND OF COURSE, ST.
MARY'S LAW, JUST SO THAT YOU CAN GET TO KNOW ME A LITTLE BETTER.
UM, PROBABLY FOR THE LAST YEAR, I HAVE BEEN, UH, MAKING SURE THAT I TRY TO PAY ATTENTION, UM, LISTENING TO WHATEVER ERIC AND SAVITA HAVE DISCUSSED AND WHAT Y'ALL DISCUSSED, JUST SO I CAN GET MORE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT'S, UH, IT DOES US ALL WELL, TO BE REMINDED OF WHAT OUR DUTIES ARE, UM, SO THAT WE DON'T GET COMPLACENT.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO RESET, RIGHT? A GOOD RESET SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE ALL NEED TO READ IT, TO LOOK AT IT, TO LIVE IT.
OKAY? AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR TODAY.
AND THEN ALSO TOO, AGAIN, SO I CAN ALSO FAMILIARIZE MYSELF WITH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
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COMMITTEE MEMBERS.I KNOW SOME OF YOU CAN ACTUALLY PROBABLY GIVE THIS, UH, PRESENTATION, BUT THAT'S MY JOB,
SO AGAIN, TODAY IT'S WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ETHICS AND PROCESS FOR THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, WHICH IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD.
OKAY? SO THE OVERVIEW FOR TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, TOUCH ON, UM, BOARD MEETING PROTOCOL, UH, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, AND THEN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CODE OF ETHICS.
OKAY? WE'RE JUST GONNA TOUCH ON THOSE THINGS.
AND ALSO TOO, THE REASON I WANTED, UH, ERIC, NOT TO BE TOO FAR.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY DIFFICULT QUESTIONS, WE CAN ADDRESS, WE CAN ASK ERIC.
BUT I WANT HIM TO INTERJECT AS HE FILL THE NEED.
OKAY? SO AS WE SAW EARLIER TODAY, WE HAVE THE CONDUCT OF MEETINGS.
OKAY? SO THAT'S SURE IS THE CHAIR CALLING THE, THE MEETING INTO ORDER.
AND THEN THE SECRETARY, OR YOU KNOW, MS. JUDY DOES A ROLL CALL AND, UH, THE MINUTES FROM THE PAST MEETING ARE APPROVED AND, UH, UM, UH, PUT INTO RECORD.
OKAY? THEN THE AGENDA ITEMS, UH, WE WORK THROUGH THE AGENDA.
OKAY? THAT BEING SAID, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, IF THE CITIZENS, IF WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, WE ALLOW THAT.
UH, THERE IS OF COURSE PROTOCOL FOR THAT.
AND, UH, DISCUSSIONS OF ITEMS PRESENTED BY THE MEMBERS.
AND OF COURSE, EVENTUALLY THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
WE SAW IT IN THE MORNING WHEN WE FIRST CALLED THIS MEETING IN ORDER.
AND THEN, UH, WE WILL SEE THAT IN THE PROCESS.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, OF COURSE, AND WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THAT AS WELL.
UH, IT IS BEING RECORDED, AND IT IS ALSO, AGAIN, THIS, UH, THIS WHOLE PRESENTATION TOO IS FOR THE PUBLIC.
SO WHEN WE DO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE APPROACHING US SAYING, HEY, WHY IS THIS DONE? HOW DO WE DO THIS? UM, WE CAN ALWAYS REFER THEM BACK TO THIS MEETING.
ALSO UNDER THE OPEN RECORDS RE UH, REQUEST, THEY CAN ALSO GET A COPY OF THAT TRANSCRIPT.
OKAY? SO WITH REGARDS TO, UM, IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT ONE, THE BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS.
SO THIS IS WHAT I REALLY WANTED US, I'M GONNA READ THIS 'CAUSE I WANT EVERYBODY ELSE TO READ THIS.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THE RE THE RESET, THE IMPORTANT REMINDER, THIS IS A COURTESY TO CITIZENS, COMMISSIONERS, AND CITY STAFF, IS MANDATORY RESPECT THE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION.
DO NOT INTERROGATE, CRITICIZE, OR RIDICULE.
MEMBERS ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
AND THE REPUTATION OF THE BOARD AND THE CITY ARE PARAMOUNT, OKAY? PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE AND EACH MEMBER'S RESPONSIBILITY.
THAT IS, LIKE I SAID, WHAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER.
AND WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS PRESENTATION THAT'S BEEN GIVEN, I'M SURE NUMEROUS TIMES I REALLY TOOK THAT TO HEART.
OKAY? SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO THE SAME.
AND ALSO, SO IT CAN ALSO BE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD ARE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE, NOT THE CITIZENS' ADVOCATE.
THEY ARE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THE MERITS OF EACH ISSUE BEFORE THEM.
I UNDERSTAND WE ALL HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, UM, PASSIONS.
SYMPATHY BEING SYMPATHETIC IS ALSO ABSOLUTELY OKAY.
AND THAT JOB, AGAIN, IS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS BASED ON THE MERITS OF EACH ISSUE THAT IS BEFORE YOU, WHICH AT TIMES CAN BE DIFFICULT.
OKAY? SO AGAIN, UM, I'M GONNA, HI, GO AHEAD.
UM, I THINK WHAT LUCINDA IS POINTING OUT IS, IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S ALSO A TWOEDGED TWOEDGED SWORD.
UH, YOU ARE THE, THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY.
UM, SO YOU ARE NOT HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR ANY PROPERTY OWNER.
YOU'RE ALSO NOT HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR EVERYTHING OR RUBBER STAMP EVERYTHING THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DOES.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ON A TIMES, OR BRINGING A PROPERTY HERE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT PROPERTY IS DANGEROUS ENOUGH FOR A DEMOLITION.
AND SO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS, WHILE YOU ARE, UH, HOLDING THE PROPERTY OWNER ACCOUNTABLE FOR PROVIDING A SCOPE OF WORK, IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THE REPAIRS, PROVIDING PROOF OF FINANCIAL MEANS, IF THEY WANNA MAKE REPAIRS, YOU ALSO HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO HOLD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ACCOUNTABLE.
DID YOU PROVIDE PROPER NOTICE? HAVE YOU BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS? HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS? REMEMBER, THEY GIVE YOU
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A TIMELINE OF EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE.SO IT SHOULD BE IN THERE THAT I'VE TRIED TO CONTACT 'EM, I'VE TRIED TO CONTACT 'EM, I'VE TRIED TO CONTACT THEM, OR SHOWING THAT THEY'VE, THEY, THAT THAT CONTACT HAS, HAS BEEN ATTEMPTED MULTIPLE OCCASION, MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, MULTIPLE TIMES, THAT THEIR ATTEMPT TO TRY TO GET THE REPAIRS DONE HAS, HAS, HAS HAPPENED.
NOT THAT THEY ISSUED A NOTICE OF VIOLATION FOUR MONTHS LATER, THIS PROPERTY'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
AGAIN, THIS BOARD SHOULD KNOW, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S A PROCESS TO GET TO BSB.
SO WHILE WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO ADVOCATE OR, OR BE ADVOCATES FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, WE ARE NOT RUBBER STAMPING ANYTHING FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
WE'RE HOLDING BOTH PARTIES ACCOUNTABLE AND MAKING A DE DECISION BASED ON THAT.
OKAY? SO, YES, YOU REPRESENT THE CITY, BUT WE ARE ALSO INDEPENDENT, FAIR MINDED, AND ARE GOING TO LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES AND HOLD BOTH SIDES, UH, ACCOUNTABLE.
OKAY? SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT ONE UP, ABSOLUTELY.
AGAIN, OF THE INFORMATION THAT IS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU, AGAIN, THAT IS BOTH SIDES, ABSOLUTELY.
WITH REGARDS TO EACH MEMBERS, MEMBERS MUST NOT INDICATE THAT THEY WILL ENDEAVOR TO ASSIST CITIZENS WITH ISSUES OR ADVOCATE ON THEIR BEHALF TO THE COMMISSION.
THAT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, OKAY? IT HAS COME UP, I'VE SEEN IT A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE THE CITIZENS AT TIMES BELIEVE THAT SOMEBODY SHOULD BE ADVOCATING FOR THEM.
UM, AND THAT IS NOT, UH, A MEMBER'S JOB.
BUT AGAIN, TOO, THERE'S NOTHING WHAT, UH, MR. BURNS WAS SAYING EARLIER FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO DIFFERENT, UH, ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, AND IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE OR TO LOOK INTO SOMETHING THAT WAY, UH, QUESTION THAT OR ASK FOR THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY INDEED HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN PRESENTED TO THE, THE CITIZEN OR ANY, UH, LANDOWNER.
OKAY? SO THE MOTIONS, MR. BURNS ALREADY, UH, TOUCHED ON THAT.
OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, THE MOTIONS, IT HAS TO BE FIRST BROUGHT.
OKAY? SO I MOVED THAT, AND AGAIN, SECONDED.
AND THEN A, MR. ANDIS REMINDED US.
AFTER IT'S SECONDED, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO A DISCUSSION.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
AGAIN, IT GOES TO THE VOTING ALSO ADDRESSED BY MR. BURNS.
WE DO THE, THE A'S AND THE NAYS.
AND THEN AFTER, UH, THAT IS, IS, UM, THEN THE, THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE RESULTS.
OKAY? AGAIN, IT, IT COULD BE THE CHAIR, AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUDY.
OKAY? SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, DO THAT.
I'M SKIMMING OVER THAT AGAIN BECAUSE IT WAS ADDRESSED.
OKAY? SO THE NEXT IMPORTANT THING IS A MEETING.
EASY ENOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S A MEETING.
NO, YOU, AGAIN, WE REALLY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, TO READ IT.
MEETING MEANS ANY DELIBERATION BETWEEN A QUORUM OF MEMBERS AT WHICH ANY PUBLIC BUSINESS IS DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED, OR AT WHICH ANY FORMAL ACTION IS TAKEN.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WHAT A MEETING IS, IS BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS DONE, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARDS TO BEING OPEN AND BEING ALSO ABLE TO BE SEEN AND HEARD BY THE PUBLIC.
SO WITH REGARDS TO THE MEETING OF THE DELIBERATION, IT IS A VERBAL EXCHANGE DURING A MEETING BETWEEN A QUORUM OF A BODY OR BETWEEN A QUORUM AND ANOTHER PERSON.
AN EXAMPLE, THE STAFF CONCERNING A ISSUE WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE BODY OR ANY PUBLIC BUSINESS.
AND AGAIN, THESE TWO DEFINITIONS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE NEXT SLIDES ARE COMING UP, OKAY? SO AGAIN, THE OPEN MEETINGS, A MEETING EXCLUDES ANY SOCIAL FUNCTIONS, CONVENTIONS, AND WORKSHOPS.
OKAY? BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO, OKAY, GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THERE IS SOME TYPE OF ASSEMBLY OR A QUORUM IN AN INFORMAL SETTING, SUCH AS A SOCIAL OCCASION, IT WILL BE THE SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ACT.
IF THE MEMBERS ENGAGE IN A VERBAL EXCHANGE ABOUT PUBLIC BUSINESS OR POLICY, WE DON'T WANNA BE DISCUSSING THESE IN PARTIES
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AND, UH, START GIVING US OUR OPINION ON SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE THE, THE BOARD, OKAY? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE IMPROPER.OKAY? SO WE WANT TO AVOID DOING THAT TYPE OF THING, EVEN THOUGH IT CAN BE EASY TO DO, TO START GETTING, AGAIN, YOU HAVE YOUR PASSIONS AND YOU HAVE YOUR BELIEFS.
AND SO THESE THINGS MIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, WANNA BE DISCUSSED, BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALLY, REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THINGS OF SUCH, UH, OKAY.
YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, MR. BURNS? IF YOU, IF YOU GUYS ARE AT A PARTY, DON'T BE TALKING ABOUT BSB.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WALKING QUORUMS, AND THAT, THAT'S, UM, BY ALL MEANS, HANG OUT TOGETHER, DO YOUR THING.
BUT WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS HANGING OUT TOGETHER, DOING OUR THING AND TALKING PROPERTIES, WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE A, A GROUP TAG, UH, A GROUP THREAD, UH, FOR BSB.
THAT'S WHY WE SHOULDN'T BE TEXTING EACH OTHER.
IF YOU GUYS EVER HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING, CONTACT ME OR LUCINDA OR CONTACT JUDY AND SHE CAN GET AHOLD OF ME, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY, UM, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION YOU NEED TO GET TO ANOTHER MEMBER, UM, WE COULD DEFINITELY DO IT THAT WAY, BUT I, I, I, I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO DO, APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY, CORRECT? SO IF MR. GRIMES AND, AND, AND MS. MIRANDA WANT TO HANG OUT, COOL, BUT IF THEY START TALKING, IF THEY HANG OUT AND THEN, UH, CALL ANDERSON, THEY START TALKING ABOUT A PROPERTY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ISSUE.
OKAY? SO WITH REGARDS TO INFORMAL AND SOCIAL MEDIAS, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, JUST READ THIS QUOTE HERE.
WHEN A QUORUM ASSEMBLES IN AN INFORMAL SETTING, SUCH AS A SOCIAL OCCASION, IT WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ACT.
IF THE MEMBERS ENGAGE IN A VERBAL EXCHANGE ABOUT PUBLIC BUSINESS OR POLICY, YOU KNOW, A BEST WAY TO AVOID THAT, DON'T DO IT.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
THIS IS WHY THESE, UM, DEFINITIONS ARE SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WANNA AVOID THESE WALKING QUORUMS, OKAY? A SERIES OF CONTEXT AMONG A QUORUM ON A MATTER OF PUBLIC BUSINESS CAN CONSTITUTE A WALKING QUORUM AND CAN BE A VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
OKAY? THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE HAS ADVISED THAT EMAIL CONTEXT WOULD CONSTITUTE A WALKING QUORUM, OKAY.
OR TEXT THREADS, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE WANNA AVOID THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
SO WITH REGARDS TO OPEN SESSIONS, AGAIN, THIS IS WHY WE WANNA AVOID ANY OF THE OTHER TYPE OF COMMUNICATION BECAUSE AGAIN, WITH REGARDS TO THE OPEN SESSIONS, A BODY MUST VOTE IN PUBLIC OPEN SESSION.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK.
UM, THE BOARD, OF COURSE, THOUGH, MAY GRANT THE RIGHT FOR THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, OKAY? AND AS WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME, UH, THERE'S TIME GIVEN TO THOSE CITIZENS, UH, PER OUR POLICY AND PROCEDURE, OKAY? THAT WE, UH, DO ALLOW THAT.
UH, BUT THE PUBLIC CAN DEFINITELY WATCH, OKAY? NOT NECESSARILY PARTICIPATE, BUT THEY CAN ABSOLUTELY WATCH, UM, WITH REGARDS TO WHAT WE WERE SPEAKING OF EARLIER, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE A COPY OF IT, THEY ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, DO AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST.
OKAY? UM, SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO REMEMBER IS THAT, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THESE SESSIONS, AVOID USING YOUR MOBILE PHONE, OKAY? BECAUSE IF THESE, THESE, THESE MEETINGS ARE TAPED, RIGHT? AND, AND THEY'RE ALSO LIVE.
SO IF ANYBODY GETS A TEXT OR STARTS COMMUNICATING ON THEIR PHONE, ERIC, I'M SURE YOU WOULD CHIME IN ON THIS AS WELL.
UM, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE IN MEETINGS LIKE THIS, ANYTHING THAT, UM, ANY COMMUNICATION THAT WE DO HERE COULD BE SUBJECT TO AN OPEN, UH, OPEN RECORDS REQUEST.
UM, WHAT WE DO NOT WANT, WHAT WE DO NOT WANT IS FOR, UH, BOARD MEMBERS TO BE ON THE PHONE OR TEXTING ON THEIR PHONE WHILE, UM, UH, A PROPERTY'S BEING PRESENTED.
WHY? WE'VE SEEN, WE'VE SEEN ATTORNEYS AND ATTORNEYS CAN BE LITIGIOUS.
AND I COULD TELL YOU, I WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IF A, IF AN ATTORNEY DECIDED TO, UH, TRY TO, UH, GAIN ACCESS TO SOMEBODY'S PHONE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT PERSON WAS ON THE PHONE ON DURING AN OPEN MEETING, UM, DURING THE PRESENTATION OF A PROPERTY, UH, THE ACCUSATION CAN BE THAT, UH, THERE'S
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COMMUNICATION GOING ON BETWEEN TWO OF THE MEMBERS THROUGH TEXT.SO, UM, TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHEN WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND WE, I'VE SAID THIS AT NAUSEUM, WE WILL DISCUSS, DISCUSS THINGS PROCEDURALLY WE WILL DISCUSS THINGS THAT, UH, CALL FOR LEGAL CON CONSULTATION.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS PROPERTY.
WE'RE NOT DOING ANY STRAW VOTING.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF CONTINUE TO DRILL THAT IN.
IF WE'RE IN SESSION AND SHE'S GIVEN, SHE'S CO GIVEN THE INFORMATION AND ALL AND SOMEBODY'S ON THE COMPUTER LOOKING UP, OTHER THAN THE PROPERTY, IS THAT CONSIDERED LOOKING UP, LOOKING UP SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE PROPERTY? YEAH.
LIKE COM SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT? YEAH.
IS THAT CONSIDERED, UH, THEY CAN REQUEST AN OPEN MEETINGS ACT TO SEE WHAT THEY WERE ON BECAUSE YOU GOT CAMERAS? I, I DON'T THINK THE CAMERAS ARE LOOKING AT AT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT.
I MEAN, THEY CAN DO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE CASE.
CAN THAT, CAN THAT CONSTITUTE THAT VIOLATION? THERE CAN BE AN ARGUMENT MADE FOR IT.
I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU YES OR NO BECAUSE RIGHT, RIGHT.
BUT YOU KNOW, AN ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE.
UM, BUT A OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS RIGHT, RIGHT.
BUT MY BETTER THAN A POUND CURE, MY SUGGESTION, RIGHT? MY SUGGESTION IS THIS.
LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, A PROPERTY'S BEING PRESENTED AND YOU'RE LOOKING UP REAL QUICK, THE PLUMBER.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE A, A, A LEAK IN YOUR BATHROOM.
I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY CARE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO OH, DO AN OVER REQUEST ON YOU ON THAT.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, AGAIN, APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.
UM, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD IF SOMEBODY'S PRESENTING A PROPERTY AND YOU'RE TEXTING AND THEN LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOUR, YOUR MIC IS OFF, ERIC, YOU'RE TEXTING, AND THEN LET'S SAY ROBERT'S OVER HERE, HE, HE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT HIS PHONE.
IT'S SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
IT MIGHT LOOK AND IT CAN, IT, IT CAN LOOK LIKE YOU GUYS ARE COMMUNICATING.
SO, UM, I WOULD URGE YOU GUYS NOT TO, UM, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S PUT OUR PHONES ON DO NOT DISTURB WHILE WE'RE HERE AND LET'S FOCUS ON THE INFORM.
AND IF YOU NEED TO, IF YOU NEED TO CHECK YOUR PHONE, WE CAN TAKE A BREAK.
WE, WE DO THAT ALL, ALL DAY LONG OR IN BETWEEN THE PROPERTY.
'CAUSE YOU ALSO, YOU ALSO HAVE THE, THE ISSUES, EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE.
UM, I'M PROBABLY PRETTY GUILTY OF SENDING OUT SOME MESSAGES TO RUN MY BUSINESS SOMETIMES DURING THESE MEETINGS.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOTHING RELATED TO THIS.
BUT IF THE GUYS HAVE A QUESTION AND THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, OBVIOUSLY AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M TRYING TO MULTITASK AND SOMETIMES IS THAT THEN EXTRA FROWNED UPON OR I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M NOT, I I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TELL YOU TO HANDLE WHAT YOU NEED TO HANDLE.
UH, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S BE, UH, DISCREET.
AND AGAIN, THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY IS WHAT WE'RE, I, I I KNOW NONE OF YOU ARE IMPROPER, BUT WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IS GIVE
SO YES, I LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS.
MIKE
WHAT I AM ASKING YOU TO DO IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE WE ARE BEING IMPROPER.
YOU CHECKING YOUR WATCH BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SICK HUSBAND.
YOU GUYS NOTICE, YOU SEE ME WALK OUT ALL THE TIME.
'CAUSE I GOT, I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S MY KIDS OR THE WIFE OR MY 80-YEAR-OLD MOTHER.
SO I, I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOU CONTINUING TO LIVE YOUR LIFE AND DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
WHAT I AM ASKING IS THAT WE JUST, UH, WE ARE DOING IT PROPERLY.
AND IF YOU NEED TO, UH, IF YOU NEED TO WALK OUT, I URGE YOU TO DO THAT.
IF, IF YOU WALKING OUT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE, WE LOSE A QUORUM, THEN INTERRUPT AND SAY, I NEED TO TAKE A BREAK FOR A SECOND.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE, WE ARE, UH, YOU HAVE COMMITTED YOURSELF TO BEING HERE, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT PART OF YOUR LIFE HAS TO KIND OF BE PUT ON HOLD.
AND SOMETIMES THINGS JUST CAN'T BE PUT ON HOLD.
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE'RE HUMAN.
BUT YES, LIMIT IT AND DON'T DO IT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, ERIC DISCUSSED, UH, THE EXECUTIVE CLOSED SESSIONS.
AGAIN, A QUORUM IN AN OPENING IN AN OPEN SESSION MUST EXIST BEFORE CALLING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID THIS MORNING.
AND THEN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION MAY BE CALLED FOR ATTORNEY CONSULTATION.
SO IT'S GONNA BE THE LEGAL, LEGAL AND THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, AND THAT IS IT.
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DON'T WANT ANYONE ELSE ENTERING BECAUSE THAT WOULD DISRUPT OKAY? AND WE DON'T WANNA DISTURB THAT, UH, ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE.SO THAT'S WHY NO OTHER MEMBERS OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WOULD, WOULD BE INVITED.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA JUMP IN AGAIN REAL QUICK.
UH, SO I DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU ARE WELL REPRESENTED BECAUSE, UH, YOUR THIRD ATTORNEY IS ALSO CHIMED IN.
UM, AND I BELIEVE MR. ANDES, IT'S TO YOU, SHE DOESN'T WANT YOU LOOKING AT ANYTHING ELSE DURING A HEARING.
SO LOOKING AT SOMETHING ELSE ON THE COMPUTER, WELL, IT'S NOT ME.
I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE SOME OF THE MEMBERS WILL SPLIT SCREEN SOMETHING HERE AND HERE AND IT GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING ELSE.
YEAH, NO, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST, I, THAT'S ALL I'M RIGHT.
NO, NO, I I I DIDN'T MEAN LIKE YOU WERE DOING THAT.
I MEANT THAT YOU WERE ASKING THE QUESTION.
MESSAGING THINGS THAT ARE UNRELATED.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANNA SCARE ANYBODY THINKING THAT UNRELATED MESSAGES YOU ARE OKAY ON THAT.
BUT I, I, I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS HILARIOUS BECAUSE SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE, AT THE METAL RECYCLING YEAH.
CITY COUNCIL, BUT SHE DECIDED TO SEND A TEXT OFF.
AND OF COURSE WE WANT TO GET HER ON STREAMING HERE.
AND, UH, WITH REGARDS TO, UM, BACK TO THE EXECUTIVE CLOSED SESSIONS, AGAIN, AS MR. BURNS REMINDED EVERYONE, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA DISCUSS ANYTHING SPECIFIC.
AND I KNOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE KINDA START LEANING AGAIN.
WE JUST NEED TO REDIRECT AND KEEP EVERYTHING GENERAL WITH REGARDS TO THAT SO THAT WE CAN ALSO STAY PROPER.
RIGHT? AND ANY VOTES OF COURSE MUST OCCUR IN THE OPEN SESSION, BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU CAN'T EXPRESS AN OPINION ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.
OKAY? UM, WE JUST, OF COURSE, ARE NOT GONNA DO ACTUALLY ANY TYPE OF VOTING OR STRAW VOTING OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
OKAY? NEXT SET, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GO ON TO WHAT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION.
SO WHAT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION? INFORMATION IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE TRANSACTION OF OFFICIAL BUSINESS.
IF IT IS CREATED BY TRANSMITTED TO RECEIVED BY, OR MAINTAINED BY AN OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY, OR BY A PERSON OR ENTITY PERFORMING OFFICIAL BUSINESS OR A GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTION ON BEHALF OF A GOVERNMENTAL BODY AND PERTAINS TO OFFICIAL BUSINESS OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY.
SO AGAIN, WHAT THAT IS TO, TO PUT IT A LITTLE BIT, UH, SIMPLY IS AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE, WE, WE KEPT TALKING ABOUT THE PHONES.
OKAY? IF YOU'RE HERE IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY AND YOU START USING THAT, THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE PUBLIC INFORMATION OR THAT SOMEBODY, OR BE PERCEIVED AS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND THEREFORE SUBJECT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'D BE SUBJECTED TO, UH, HAVING TO TURN THAT OVER IF SOMEBODY DID INDEED.
UM, OR IT WOULD BE ARGUED FOR.
IT COULD BE POSSIBLE ARGUMENT FOR THAT.
OKAY? SO THAT IS WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT AND WHY WE EVEN BRING THAT UP.
OKAY? AGAIN, GOING BACK, ANY ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION CREATED, TRANSMITTED, RECEIVED, OR MAINTAINED ON ANY DEVICE IF THE COMMUNICATION IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE TRANSACTION OF OFFICIAL BUSINESS.
AGAIN, JUST TO JUST GO AHEAD AND DRILL THAT INTO OUR MINDS.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS MORE THAN AN ADVISORY BOARD.
A BOARD IS MORE THAN AN ADVISORY.
IF IT, IT MAY TAKE SOME ACTION NOT REQUIRED TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OR OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY OF THE CITY.
IT IS, OF COURSE THE BSB IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD, MEANING THAT THIS BOARD HAS JUDICIAL POWER.
OKAY? AND THEN SOMETIMES, LIKE I SAID, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR, UH, THE PUBLIC AND MAYBE ATTORNEYS THAT ARE NOT SO FAMILIAR WITH THIS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL KNOWN THAT WE'VE HAD TO ARGUE THAT.
AND THE, WHERE WE GET THAT POWER FROM.
ANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WANNA ADD MR. BURNS, WITH REGARDS TO THAT? NO, I'M, I'M, I'M, I AM, I'M GOOD.
SO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SAVITA? NO, I'M KIDDING.
IT GOES BACK TO REPRESENTING THAT WORD WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE CITY, BUT YET WE DON'T OUT.
WELL, YES, YOU REPRESENT THE CITY AS, UM, A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD.
YOU ARE, YOU ARE IN ESSENCE, THE CITY SPEAKING AND MAKING A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER THIS PROPERTY IS A, A DANGEROUS PREMISE OR WHETHER THIS PROPERTY HAS A SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATIONS.
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I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE THAT WORD REPRESENTATIVE AUTOMATICALLY GIVES PEOPLE THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DETERMINED, BECAUSE WE WERE, I THINK IT SHOULD BE REWORDED AS IT STATES AND TAKE OUT REPRESENTATIVE, AND THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY, UH, MEDIATORS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CITI, THE, THE CITIZENS.BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING A CASE THAT IF IT WAS A COURT, IT WOULDN'T BE THE JUDGE AS A CITY REPRESENTATIVE.
BUT HE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, THE, OF, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK HOW TO, IF NOTHING ELSE, HE'S A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE NATION BECAUSE HE
HE WOULD NOT BE, HE WOULD NOT BE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OR THE, HE WOULD BE AN INDEPENDENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT MIGHT, THAT WORD IS WELL, HURTS THE BOARD BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE THAT ONE WORD AND THAT'S WHAT THEY FOCUS ON.
AND THAT WELL, AND THAT'S WHY IT, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THE THING ABOUT A MEDIATOR IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES MEDIATORS DO NOT MAKE A DECISION.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE, WE SAY ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO REPRESENTATIVE.
BUT I THINK WHAT MR. BURNS WANTED TO LET US KNOW.
EVEN THOUGH WE DO THAT, THAT THE MEMBERS REPRESENT THE CITY.
IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY JUST HAVE TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT, THAT IS PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THEM AS WORD.
IT'S, IT'S YOUR RIGHT TO QUESTION BOTH SIDES.
NOT JUST THE CITIZENS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT ALSO THOSE THAT ARE PRESENTING, UH, REQUESTING, DEMOLITION OR REQUESTING, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME TYPE OF ORDER, WHICH FOR REPAIR.
YES, WE REPRESENT THE CITY, BUT MY THING IS, IS WHEN THEY COME IN, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE COME IN AUTOMATICALLY USE THAT WORD.
YOU'RE WITH THE CITY, THEY'VE AUTOMATICALLY IDENTIFIED THAT ONE WORD IS WE ARE HERE FOR THE CITY, NOT WE'RE MEDIATORS, WHICH IS WHAT WE REALLY ARE BETWEEN CASES.
'CAUSE WE CAN GO AGAINST THE CITY OR WE CAN GO AGAINST THE INDIVIDUAL THAT, SO I THINK THAT ONE WORD IS THE, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, THEY LOCKED ON THAT ONE WORD.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE MEDIATORS THOUGH.
THEY, THEY, THEY MIGHT HAVE LOCKED ON THAT ONE WORD.
AND I WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL JUST, HOW ABOUT THIS? THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LEGAL TEAM WILL GET TOGETHER AND WE'LL, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS IT, WHETHER IT SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE OR ANY, OR ANY OTHER, UM, ANY OTHER WORDS.
MAYBE EVEN PUT IT IN QUOTES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT MAKE IT, THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY LOCK ON.
WELL, THE, THE REPRESENTATION THAT I PROVIDE IS I PROVIDE A SERVICE TO THE CITY, AND AS A RESULT, I REPRESENT THE CITY IN PROVIDING THAT SERVICE.
AND THAT SERVICE IS, WE ARE A JU A QUASI-JUDICIAL PANEL.
BUT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING A DECISION REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE CITY AGREES WITH US OR NOT.
BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY, WE CAN DEFINITELY VISIT THAT.
'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YOUR, YOUR CONCERN IS.
SO WE CAN DEFINITELY REVISIT THAT.
AND ALSO ON THE SLIDE YOU HAVE THAT WE OPERATE INDEPENDENT OF THE CITY AND WE DON'T GET PAID
UH, THE MISCONCEPTION IS, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE PUBLIC SEES A DIFFERENT THING WHEN THESE SLIDES COME UP IS WHERE, IS WHERE DEPENDEN OR WE'RE WITH THE CITY.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THEY LOCK ON.
AND WE'VE HEARD IT MANY TIMES WHEN THEY COME IN HERE.
SO I THINK MAYBE ANOTHER WAY THAT WE'RE NOT WITH THE CITY, 'CAUSE IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE, WE'RE INDEPENDENT.
SO, AND IT'S, THE PUBLIC HAS TO SEE THAT AND PERCEIVE THAT, NOT PERCEIVE THAT ONE WORD.
AND THEN ALSO TOO, MAYBE TO ASSIST THAT ANY PERSON THAT TENDS TO START, UH, YOU KNOW, FOCUSING ON THAT WORD, MAYBE IT'S EVEN MORE OF A JOB FOR LEGAL TO REMIND THEM THAT THE BOARD, UH, MAKES THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE ADAMS PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THEM.
AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME OF THEIR COUNSELORS, MR. BURNS WOULD REMEMBER THE COUNCIL WAS EVEN IN HERE NUMBERING US AND SAYING, OH, WELL ALL YOU GUYS WORK FOR THE CITY, THAT, THAT SHOULD
LOOK, I I CAN TELL YOU THIS SOME, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME IN HERE AND USE WORDS AND, AND, AND TAKE THAT WORD AND, UM, UH, AND DISTORT THE, THE MEANING OF THE WORD FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE.
MEMBERS ARE THE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVES.
YOU REPRESENT THE CITY IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE CITY HAS A BOARD THAT HAS QUASI-JUDICIAL POWER TO MAKE DECISIONS OVER PROPERTIES.
THAT'S HOW YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU REPRESENT, UH, CITY EMPLOYEES, OR THE ASSUMPTION IS BECAUSE YOU REPRESENT THE CITY, YOU'RE AGAINST US.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, I, I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THAT'S HOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE IT.
BUT UM, RIGHT, WE JUST HAVE YES, CORRECT.
WE JUST HAVE TO REMIND THEM THAT YES, YOU'RE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY, BUT IT'S NOT, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE BIAS FOR THE CITY.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO ADVOCATE FOR THE CITIZEN AS WELL.
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AND, AND THE OTHER QUESTION, AND, AND THAT'S WHY I SAY, 'CAUSE WHAT THEY PERCEIVE IS ALREADY A NEGATIVE AGAINST US, BUT WE'RE TRYING.BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, IF EXAMPLE, AND THIS GOES TO THE QUORUM PART, WALKING QUORUM.
IF ME AND MR. NELSON DECIDE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND I CALL HIM, OR HE CALLS ME, IS THAT CONSIDERED BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE BOARD, IS THAT CONSIDERED, AND IT DEALS WITH A BOARD ISSUE, LIKE THE, UM, CODES THAT WE JUST DID, IF WE GO UP THERE TO GIVE OR LISTENED TO IT, IS THAT CONSIDERED OR COULD BE CONSIDERED A WALKING QUORUM? BECAUSE IT DOES SAY QUORUM IS HOW MANY? FOUR, IF IT'S THE MAJORITY, THE MAJORITY OF A PANEL.
SO THE, I GUESS I'M ASSUMING THE MAJORITY OF AN EIGHT PANEL, A MAJORITY PANEL.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT QUORUM, IT'S WHEN A QUORUM ASSEMBLES IN AN INFORMAL SETTING, SUCH AS A SOCIAL MEETING OR A SOCIAL OCCURRENCE, UM, A A SOCIAL, UM, UH, UH, OCCASION IS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ACT.
IF THE MEMBERS ENGAGE IN VERBAL EXCHANGE ABOUT PUBLIC BUSINESS OR POLICY.
SO YOU AND, UH, YOU AND MR. NELSON GOING TO HEAR, GOING TO A, UH, A CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO HEAR THEM DISCUSS, UM, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO FOR CODE ISSUES IS NOT, IT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A WALKING QUORUM.
ONE, YOU HAVEN'T MET A QUORUM, RIGHT? UM, BUT TWO, IT'S NOT IMPROPER FOR YOU GUYS TO GO HEAR ABOUT CITY BUSINESS OR SPEAKING.
NOW, LET'S SAY THEY WERE HAVING A SPECIAL SESSION ABOUT A PROPERTY THAT WAS GETTING READY TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU, OR A PROPERTY THAT YOU RESET, THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL GOOD QUESTIONS.
THESE ARE ALL THE REASONS WHY WE DO THESE PRESENTATIONS SO THAT WE CAN BE REMINDED OF THESE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND ALSO, SOMETIMES THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN, UH, PRESENTED TO US BEFORE DURING THESE, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, YOU KNOW, MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES COME UP IN OTHER YEARS, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S ALSO WHY IT'S GOOD TO REVISIT THIS, UH, OFTEN.
SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
UH, AS MR. N SAID, VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.
UH, AND DANNY, WE'RE GONNA BRING YOU BACK UP AGAIN, UH, IN A NORMAL ROLE FOR YOU.
SO IT SHOULDN'T BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR YOU AT ALL TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES OF CODE ENFORCEMENT STRATEGIC PLANNING.
SO YOU LOST YOUR, YOU LOST YOUR PROMOTION.
IT WAS, IT WAS FINE WHILE LAST, YEAH.
UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, DAN LEAGUE IS CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, MY PRESENTATION WON'T BE AS INTERACTIVE AS ERIC'S PRESENTATION, SO
BUT IF YOU NEED TO GET UP AND STRETCH, BY ALL MEANS, PLEASE DO SO.
SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA START OFF, IT'S GONNA BE A QUICK HIGH LEVEL, UM, PRESENTATION ON THE COACH STRATEGIC PLAN.
HOW MANY OF YOU GUYS, JUST BY RAISE OF HANDS, HAVE HEARD OF THE CODE STRATEGIC PLAN? NO ONE HERE.
THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF FIGURED.
SO, UM, SHOULD WE GO TO THE FIRST LINE HERE? SO THIS IS A, UM, A CCR THAT WAS, THAT WAS, UM, BROUGHT FORWARD, UM, UH, IN 2022 OR 23, I BELIEVE, BY, UM, DISTRICT FOUR, COUNCILWOMAN, ADRIANA ROCHA, DR.
AND, UH, WHAT IT IS IS, UM, DURING ONE OF THE, UH, BUDGET SURVEYS IN FY 23, UM, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS THE SECOND MOST REQUESTED SERVICES, UM, BY RESIDENTS OR RESPONDENTS, RIGHT? HOWEVER, UM, IT WAS CLEAR FROM THE SERVER RESULTS, UM, THAT THERE WAS SOME ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
UM, I, I THINK WE RANKED OR WERE RATED LIKE AT 57% SATISFACTION, UM, FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? SO THAT BASICALLY TOLD US THAT, THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT WE NEEDED TO WANNA RECONSIDER AND LOOK AT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE HIGH DEMAND FOR, UM, FOR THE REQUEST SERVICES, COUPLED WITH THE, THE, I GUESS RELATIVELY THE LOW, UM, SATISFACTORY EXPECTATIONS THAT WERE, THAT WERE, UM, RESULTED WITH, IF YOU WILL, IT PROMPTED AN EVALUATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? UM, LOOKING AT OUR PRO OPERATION PROCEDURES, UH, OUR RESPONSIVENESS, BASICALLY THE OVERALL EFFECTIVENESS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UM, SO, UM, FAST FORWARD, UH, FY 25, UM, OUR OVERALL SATISFACTION HAS JUMPED ABOUT 15%.
SO, A MORE RECENT BUDGET SURVEY THAT WOULD NOW SHOW THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, WAS, I BELIEVE, 72%, UH, OVERALL SATISFACTORY.
SO THERE WAS AN INCREASE, RIGHT? UH, ON TOP OF THAT, UM, IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS, LIKE AUSTIN, UM, DALLAS, EL PASO,
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UH, FORT WORTH, UH, WE WERE RANKED NUMBER ONE OVERALL, IT'S CUSTOMER SUB SATISFACTION.SO, UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING THE NEEDLE, IF YOU WILL, RIGHT? UM, BUT STILL THIS IS A PART OF A PROCESS THAT WE WANNA LOOK AT.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, UM, LIKE IN RESPONSE, WE'VE, UM, WE'RE GONNA START WHAT'S CALLED THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STRATEGIC PLANNING, UM, WITH SOME CLEAR GOALS, RIGHT? UM, FIRST OF ALL, WE WANNA IMPROVE OUR, WHAT WE CALL OUR COMMUNITY OUTCOMES BY FOCUSING ON THESE, THESE KEY FOCUS AREAS HERE THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS.
UM, THE, THE OVERALL PROCESS, UM, WE SEEK INPUT, OBVIOUSLY, UH, MORE IMPORTANTLY FROM THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? THAT'D BE REALLY, IT'S GONNA BE COMMUNITY LED, COMMUNITY DRIVEN, UH, PROCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE REEVALUATING OUR OPERATING PROCEDURES TO MAKE SURE THEY ALIGN WITH GOALS AND TECHNOLOGY.
UH, WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY STREAMS ONLINE SOME OF OUR PROCESS.
UH, WE WANNA REALLY MAXIMIZE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE RESIDENTS, THE COUNCIL OFFICE, PRETTY MUCH ANY INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT, THAT WE WORK WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UH, WE WANT TO CREATE WHAT WE CALL EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL, UM, FOR WHAT WE CALL COMMON CODE VIOLATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOOLS ARE AVAILABLE, UM, FOR RESIDENTS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT CODE ENFORCEMENT DOES OR, OR CANNOT DO, RIGHT? UH, AND WE WANNA REVIEW BEST PRACTICE CITYWIDE, UH, AND OTHER COMPARABLE CITIES IN, IN TEXAS AND THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, RIGHT? UH, AND REALLY BALANCE OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES, UM, OUR PROACTIVENESS AND OUR REACTIVE, UM, COMPLIANCE.
SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE ALIGN ALL OUR RESOURCES AND WE PRIORITIZE, UM, THE, THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS, RIGHT? UM, BASED ON, ON REAL TIME, WHAT WE CALL REAL TIME DATA, REAL TIME COMMUNITY INPUT.
OKAY? SO WHAT DO WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE? THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WE ALREADY DO.
UM, SO BACK IN 20 20 12, I BELIEVE IT WAS, OR 2013, MAYBE 20 20 12, UM, WE KIND OF REBRANDED CODE ENFORCEMENT TO WHAT IT IS TODAY, RIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT WE HAVE TODAY WERE IMPLEMENTED AROUND THAT TIME PERIOD, RIGHT? OUR COMPLIANCE RATE, OUR RESPONSE TIME, UM, OUR PROACTIVITY, UM, AT THE SAME TIME WE WANTED TO BE, UM, MORE PROACTIVE IN, IN REACHING OUT OR ENGAGING THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? SO WE CREATED WHAT'S CALLED A, A NEIGHBORHOOD CODE ENFORCEMENT TASK FORCE.
UH, IT WAS A, UH, A TASK FORCE THAT WOULD MEET QUARTERLY.
UH, THESE WERE, UH, COUNCIL APPOINTED, UH, RESIDENTS, COMMUNITY LEADERS, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS THAT WOULD MEET QUARTERLY WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, REALLY TO, TO BRING FORTH ANY ISSUES THEY HAVE IN REGARDS TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? UM, THAT, THAT LASTED FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, WE PUT A LITTLE PAUSE, OBVIOUSLY DURING THE PANDEMIC, RIGHT? AND THEN AFTER COV AND THE PANDEMIC, IT WAS JUST, UM, IT, IT TOOK SOME TIME TO GET THAT OFF THE GROUND AGAIN, RIGHT? THERE WAS JUST SOME, UM, I GUESS SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT MAYBE MEETING PUBLICLY AGAIN.
AND, AND WHILE WE COULDN'T GET A BALANCE, PEOPLE WERE SAYING, WELL, THEY, SOMEONE WANTED TO MEET MAYBE VIRTUALLY WHERE THIS I'M COMFORTABLE MEETING IN PERSON.
SO NEVERTHELESS, OUR ATTENDANCE PARTICIPATION, UM, WAS REALLY LOW, RIGHT? UM, SO WE KIND OF TABLED THAT, THAT OVERALL, UH, TASK FORCE WHILE WE GO THROUGH THIS CODE STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH EXPECTATION THAT MAYBE ANOTHER TASK FORCE COMES OUT OF THIS, RIGHT? OR, OR SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR OR SOMETHING REBRANDED, IF YOU WILL, SOMETHING DIFFERENT, RIGHT? UM, AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO HAD WHAT WE CALLED A, A HARDSHIP PROCESS.
SOME OF, I, MATTER OF FACT, PROBABLY MOST OF YOU HERE ARE FAMILIAR WITH A HARDSHIP THAT'S BASICALLY SAYING IF, IF A RESIDENT COMES FORWARD AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL, FINANCIAL, UM, MENTAL, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THAT THEY JUST CANNOT AFFORD TO FIX THE HOME UP AT THIS POINT, WE KIND OF PUT A PAUSE ON BRINGING IT FORWARD TO BSP, RIGHT? SO THAT WAS KIND OF IMPLEMENTED IN 2016, WHERE WE WOULD PUT A PAUSE ON THESE PROPERTIES FOR ABOUT NINE MONTHS, WORK WITH A RESIDENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, TRY TO GET 'EM SOME RESOURCES BEFORE BRINGING IT FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, TO THE BOARD, RIGHT? SO THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED.
UM, OUR OPERATING PROCEDURES, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY UPDATING THOSE.
WE, WE DID A RE RECENTLY REVAMP, UM, IN, IN NOVEMBER, UM, JUST BEFORE WE GOT RE-ACCREDITED IN, IN OUR IAS ACCREDITATION, RIGHT? SO, UH, THOSE THAT YOU, THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS, IS REALLY, UM, ONE OF FOUR OTHER CITIES IN THE NATION THAT HAVE THIS ACCREDITATION THAT, UH, THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED IAS ACCREDITATION, UH, WHICH IS THE INTERNATIONAL ACCREDITATION SERVICES, UH, IS WHEN, UH, THROUGH THE INTERNATIONAL CODE OF COUNCIL, THEY COME DOWN AND EVALUATE, UH, ALL THEIR OPERATING PROCEDURES THEY LOOK AT, AND THEY REALLY TAKE A FINE COMB THROUGH ALL OUR PROCESS THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S AND WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING IN LINE WITH
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THE MORE RECENT INDUSTRY STANDARDS THAT'S OUT THERE, RIGHT? SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF A BADGE OF HONOR THAT, IF YOU WILL, THAT WE CARRY, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE'RE ONE OF FOUR IN THE NATION, AND REALLY THE ONLY CITY IN TEXAS THAT CARRIES THAT ACCREDITATION.SO, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALREADY HAVE.
AND THE CCR CALLED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, THAT'S A CHECKBOX, IF YOU WILL, THAT WE'VE KIND OF ALREADY MET.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, THERE'S ALWAYS STILL ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
SO, SO, UM, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS, KIND OF TIMELINES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? UM, THIS ITEM WENT BEFORE OUR GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE BACK IN JANUARY 24.
UH, IT WENT BEFORE OUR PLANNING COMMISSION DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH IS PCDC IN AUGUST, 2024.
AND THROUGH THIS FY 25 BUDGET PROCESS, UM, WE WERE ALLOCATED, UM, SOME FUNDING, IF YOU WILL, TO, UH, HIRE A CONSULTANT THAT WOULD HELP FACILITATE AND IMPLEMENT, UH, AND HELP US WALK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO THE IDEA BEHIND THAT WAS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A, A, A PROCESS THAT IS, IS JUST TRANSPARENT, RIGHT? WHERE IT'S NOT, UM, THE CITY, IF YOU WILL, DRIVING THIS, BUT IT'S THROUGH A CONSULTANT, WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT DIRECTLY THAT THEY WOULD BE THE FACE, IF YOU WILL, GOING OUT TO COMMUNITY AND, AND REALLY SEEKING INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? UM, WE JUST LAUNCHED OUR KICKOFF MEETING, UM, WE WEEK WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, THE CCR DID NOT CALL FOR, UM, UM, AN A COMPONENT, IF YOU WILL, FOR INTERNAL REVIEWS, BUT THROUGH ANY ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGE, RIGHT? WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT, RIGHT? SO, UH, WE DID MEET LAST WEEK WITH A STAFF, UM, AS A WHOLE.
UH, WE INTRODUCED THE CONSULTANT TO ALL THE TEAMS. UM, WE HAD SOME, UH, VERY SMALL, WHAT WE CALL PRE-LISTING SESSIONS, RIGHT? UH, BUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME LISTENING SESSIONS FOR CODE STAFF, INTERNAL STAFF, UM, EVERYONE OTHER THAN A SUPERVISOR OR MANAGER WHO WILL BE ABLE TO COME INTO A ROOM AND SPEAK OPENLY ABOUT SOME OF THESE FOCUS AREAS, RIGHT? AND, AND MAYBE THEY CAN PROVIDE SOME, SOME INPUT WHERE THERE'S SOME IMPROVEMENT THAT THEY SEE OUT IN THE FIELD.
UM, AND THE CONSULTANT IDEALLY WOULD COLLECT THAT AND SHARE THAT IN A SUMMARY WITH US.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, UM, MID-SUMMER, UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING, UM, AT EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT, UH, CITYWIDE, UM, GOING TO EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICTS WITH A, UH, A PRESENTATION, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE CONSULTANT.
AGAIN, THE IDEA BEHIND IS REALLY SEEKING INPUT RIGHT? FROM THE PUBLIC AND WHERE THEY WANNA SEE US ALIGNED, UH, IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, RIGHT? UM, OF COURSE, BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE WANNA DO SOME, UH, MARKETING, RIGHT? SO, UH, BEFORE THESE MEETINGS, IF YOU WILL HAPPEN, UH, WE'RE GONNA SEVERAL WEEKS IN ADVANCE MARKET IT, UH, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH OUR PUBLIC PSA, THROUGH OUR PUBLIC, WHAT IS IT? ESSAY SPEAK UP PAGE, WHICH WE'RE GONNA BE CREATING AND WORKING ON.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, FLYERS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE POSTING AT SENIOR CENTERS, LIBRARIES.
WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DIGITAL DIVIDE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REPEATEDLY WHERE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE REALLY, UH, TOUCH EVERYONE OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME INPUT.
UM, SO, UH, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR, UM, OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAMS INTERNALLY, ALSO WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNICATION ENGAGEMENT, RIGHT? THAT IS, THAT DOES REALLY ALL THE OUTREACH EFFORTS CITYWIDE, RIGHT? SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT AND, AND WE REALLY, UM, TAKE THIS TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE AND REALLY GET THEIR INPUT AND THEIR, AND, AND THEIR FACILITATION FOR, UM, FOR FEEDBACK.
SO, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, NEXT STEPS, UH, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, UM, IS THE LISTENING SESSIONS.
UM, I SHARE THIS WITH THIS GROUP BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, UH, WE WILL BE SETTING UP OR CALLING MAYBE A RETREAT, UH, FOR THE FULL BOARD.
OF COURSE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE MEET THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT REQUIREMENTS AND THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING, RIGHT? SO, UH, BUT AGAIN, THE OPPORTUNITY WILL BE THERE FOR, FOR EACH OF YOU TO SHARE YOUR, YOUR CONCERNS OR AREAS OF IMPROVEMENTS YOU THINK CODE ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO FOCUS ON AND LOOK AT.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING FORWARD THIS, THIS, UM, THIS UPDATE, IF YOU WILL.
SO JUST KIND OF, KIND OF APPLYING THE SEED, IF YOU WILL.
UM, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE YOU AMPLE NOTICE WHEN THIS IS GONNA TAKE PLACE.
BUT AGAIN, RIGHT NOW IT MAY BE MIDSUMMER, MAYBE LATE SUMMER, BUT NEVERTHELESS, UH, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH HER AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST HIGH LEVEL AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING ON.
I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE KICKING OFF.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FORWARD? TOP HERE.
I WOULD ONLY SUGGEST YOU ALSO INCLUDE, UH, THE INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING.
HIGH SCHOOL, TWO YEAR DEGREE PROGRAMS, FOUR YEAR DEGREE PROGRAMS IN ASSIMILATING THIS EDUCATION, SKILLED LABOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL, THE ENGINEERING THAT'S, THAT'S INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AS WELL, MR. SOLES.
YEAH, I'M JUST GONNA ADD ON TO THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
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TRAITS HERE WOULD BE GREAT JUST TO HAVE AN INTRODUCTORY, UH, INTRODUCTION TO CODE COMPLIANCE.I THINK THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THEM.
WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT, THOUGH, IS THE, THE TIMELINE TO MEET WITH EACH DISTRICT AND, AND HAVE YOU ALREADY TALKED TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER OF REPRESENTATIVES OR THIS SOMETHING YOU WAIT TILL AFTER THE, THE FINAL ELECTION? SO, IT'S FUNNY YOU ASKED THAT.
SO, YEAH, SO AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH AN ELECTION PROCESS RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? SO SOME, THERE'S STILL A FEW PENDING RUNOFFS.
UM, AT SOME POINT WE WILL BE MEETING WITH ALL THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS WHILE, UM, THEY'RE AWARE OF THE GENERAL PLAN, THE CCR, 'CAUSE AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A CCR THAT'S BEEN ON THE TABLES FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.
UM, THERE MAY BE EXCHANGE OF COUNCIL OFFICES OR TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU WILL.
UH, BUT WE ARE GONNA ENGAGE THEM IN THIS PROCESS.
UM, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH THEM AS WELL.
UM, AS FAR AS TIMELINE GOES, AGAIN, UM, MIDSUMMER WE'RE LOOKING AT, GIVE OR TAKE, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE IT REALLY BETWEEN, UH, THE UPCOMING BUDGET SESSIONS AS WELL, RIGHT? AND EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY MEETING THAT'S OUT THERE.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THESE DON'T OVERLAP WHERE SOMEONE HAS TO REALLY CHOOSE AND SAY, WHO, I REALLY WANTED TO GO HERE, BUT I HAD TO GO HERE.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A REALLY, A CLEAR CALENDAR AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE REALLY GETTING, PROVIDE THEIR INPUT.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I HOPE IT DID.
IT, IT'S, YES, WE'LL BE SOLICITING INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE.
UH, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH THEM AND TO KIND OF KEEP 'EM INFORMED ALONG THE WAY AS WELL.
JUST TO WRAP THAT UP, I REALLY HAVE TO COMMEND Y'ALL ON, ON GETTING THE ACCREDITATION.
AND JUST REALLY SHOWS A COMMITMENT, UH, FROM, UH, THIS DEPARTMENT.
IT ACTUALLY, UH, BE THE, THE LEADERS AND HOW YOU ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE SERVICES, UH, TO THE CITIZENS AT SAN ANTONIO.
ROBERT TRUMP, I SECOND NAME MR. TRUMP.
I'LL LET YOU DO THE SECOND TO IT.
HAILEY, QUESTION? UH, YEAH, I, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
ARE, ARE YOU WORKING ALSO WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, UM, TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THEM AS WELL? CORRECT.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THE KEY EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, RIGHT? UM, THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF, UH, STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH OR REACHING OUT TO, RATHER, IF YOU WILL, FURTHER INPUT AS WELL.
UM, AGAIN, I CAN GO OFF AND PROBABLY READ OFF A BUNCH OF THEM, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A FEW STAKEHOLDERS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, YES, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, COMMUNITY LEADERS ARE GONNA BE KEY IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS A COMMUNITY DRIVEN, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT? SO, UH, THEIR INPUT'S GONNA BE VITAL IN THIS PROCESS.
IN THIS ALSO, WHEN YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA REACH OUT, LIKE SOME OF THE STUFF YOU'VE DONE, LIKE WHEN WE DO THE, UM, THE UPDATING OF THE CODES MM-HMM
THERE'S A LIMITED TIME EVERYBODY GETS IN THERE.
IS THIS GOING TO BE 24 7, 365? SO EVERYBODY EVEN OUTSIDE, CAN STILL DO RECOMMENDATIONS YEAR LONG? OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT? BOTH E BOTH EMAIL AND EVEN PHONE, BECAUSE IT WAS BOUGHT UP LAST MEETING BY, UH, KAYLA, THAT TAKING PHONE MESSAGES WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T MEET OR CAN'T PUT OUR, BUT THEY CAN STILL LEAVE A VOICEMAIL THAT CAN GO INTO THE RECORD.
YEAH, WE, WELL, I, I DON'T THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED PHONE MESSAGES YET, BUT WE, ON OUR ESSAY SPEAK UP PAGE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WILL INCLUDED EMAIL ADDRESS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE S-A-P-M-C REVIEW PROCESS, RIGHT? WHERE IF SOMEBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK, THEY CAN CERTAINLY JUST EMAIL US AND IT'S GONNA BE MONITORED BY A FEW OF US WHERE WE CAN EITHER RESPOND OR TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND INCLUDE IT IN THE OVERALL SUMMARY, BUT THAT, THAT BE OPEN LIKE A PREROLL ONE, RIGHT? SO THEY CAN STILL 24 7, 2 65.
IT, IT WOULD BE ON OUR ESSAY SPEAK UP PAGE, WHICH AGAIN, IS, IS LIVE AND MOSTLY NOT LIVE YET.
BUT WHEN IT'S LIVE, IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T LIKE, TO YOUR POINT, IT DOESN'T, IT'S 24 7, RIGHT? IT'S A COULD.
AND THAT'S BIGGEST COMPLAINT WE HEAR IS NOBODY CAN REACH BECAUSE THERE'S A TIME LIMIT.
LIKE WHEN WE DISCUSSED ON THE, THE BOARD WE HAD FOR THE, UM, YEAH.
COMMITTEE, EVERYBODY WAS SAYING, WELL, WE DIDN'T GET ENOUGH TIME.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE THE CASE IN THIS MATTER HERE.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S OPEN, RIGHT? SO NOW, UM, THERE WON'T BE A SURVEY PER SE, IF YOU WILL, AT THIS POINT JUST YET.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S SOME FEEDBACK THAT I'M HEARING, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER WITH THE, THE CONSULTANCY, IF THAT'S AN OPTION WE WANNA MAYBE CONSIDER FOR OUR SPEAK UP PAGE, RIGHT.
BUT CERTAINLY THERE'LL BE AN EMAIL ADDRESS WHERE SOMEBODY CAN SOLICIT OR SEND, UH, OR, OR, NOT SOLICIT, BUT, BUT PROVIDE, IF YOU WILL, INPUT, UM, ON, ON, JUST IN GENERAL AND UNDERSTAND THAT YOU PROBABLY GET A LOT MORE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE IT'S A 20.
AND, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO DIVIDE WHICH IS WHICH IT, IT'S, IT, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, SOME OF THEM WILL COME IN, IN AS COMPLAINTS AND WE'LL JUST CHANNEL 'EM THE CORRECT WAY, MAKE SURE THEY GET ADDRESSED.
IF WE OPEN THAT DOOR TO THE PUBLIC AND WE OPEN THE DOOR AND DON'T SHUT IT LIKE WE DO ON SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE ASK FOR SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME, THIS WAY THEY HAVE ANOTHER OUTLET THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC.
RATHER IT BE PHONE, COMPUTER, OR EVEN WRITTEN LETTER, HOWEVER THEY WANT TO GIVE THEIR
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COMPLAINT.ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OKAY, GO AHEAD.
UM, I, I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS OR HOMEOWNER, UH, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT NAMES.
NEIGHBORHOOD, RESIDENCE, HOMEOWNER, WHATEVER.
UM, AND EVEN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE ALWAYS INVITE A CODE OFFICER AND WE SPEND THE MAJORITY OF THE MEETING ON CODE RELATED COMPLAINTS, UH, FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORS.
SO THE SUGGESTION IS TO HAVE A CODE OFFICER THAT CAN KEEP UP WITH THOSE MEETINGS AND GO OUT AND MAYBE HAVE A TABLET WITH THEM, AND THOSE WHO CANNOT OR DO NOT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS OR DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO ANY OF THIS, WHERE THEY, THE CODE OFFICER CAN SIT DOWN WITH THE PEOPLE THERE FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, HOUR OR TWO, AND FILL OUT THE, HELP THEM FILL OUT THE FORMS AND SEND IT IN.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, SO THAT THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN OUR PROCESS.
SO, AGAIN, WE UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT DIGITAL DIVIDE, RIGHT? SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL IN OUR CODE OFFICER GO OUT TO THE ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
ONE, UH, UPDATE THE ASSOCIATION ON, ON THE PROGRESS FOR THE PROCESS, IF YOU WILL, BUT ALSO TWO, TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK, WHETHER IT'S A, UH, A HANDWRITTEN LETTER, A FORM, OR HOWEVER THEY COLLECT IT.
UM, BUT AS LONG AS IT GETS BACK TO US TO INCLUDE IT IN OUR SUMMARY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST ONE FINAL, FINAL COMMENT RELEASED FROM ME.
SAN ANTONIO IS AN EXTREMELY VIABLE PROGRAM THAT VERY FEW CITIES HAVE GOT, AND HOPEFULLY THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY WILL UTILIZE SPEAK UP SAN ANTONIO.
IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM THAT VERY FEW CITIZENS REALLY HAVE A CHANCE TO UTILIZE, UH, AND SEE.
DID WE PROMOTE YOU AGAIN, OR YOU GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH THE NEXT ISSUE? GOT PROMOTED AGAIN, SIR.
WE'RE GONNA PROMOTE YOU AGAIN.
AND THEN I'LL HAND IT OVER TO, UH, MY COLLEAGUE HERE FOR FOLLOW UP ON THE COMPLIANCE ASSISTANCE FUND.
SO IN REGARDS TO FUTURE MU MEETING DATES, UM, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE DATE, UH, OF OCTOBER 16TH.
UM, WE CHANGED THAT DATE FROM OCTOBER 10TH TO OCTOBER 16TH AT THE REQUEST OF, UM, THE BOARD, I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFLICT.
AND SO THE NEW DATE NOW FOR PANEL A WILL BE OCTOBER 16TH.
AND I BELIEVE JUDY MAY HAVE ALREADY SHARED THIS WITH THE, THE MEMBERS.
WELL, WE'LL BE SHARING THIS WITH YOU GUYS AFTER THE MEETING.
11, 13, RIGHT? THAT'S STILL, THAT'S STILL GONNA BE THE NOVEMBER.
IS, YOU SAID EARLIER WHEN YOU, ON THE LAST ONE THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO FIGURE A DATE TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER TO PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD.
IS THAT CORRECT? ON, ON, ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST GAVE, THE MIDSUMMER RETREAT, IS THAT SUMMER QUESTION, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO THIS WOULD BE, I WANNA SAY, UM, IT, IT WON'T BE NOVEMBER WHEN WE GET TOGETHER JUST A STRATEGIC PLAN.
IT'LL DEFINITELY BE BEFORE, RIGHT? SO THIS WILL BE SOMETIME MIDSUMMER GIVE OR TAKE THAT WE GET WHAT WE CALL A-A-B-S-B RETREAT.
RIGHT? AND SO IT WON'T BE IN NOVEMBER.
ALRIGHT, SO BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY TIED UP WITH OTHER AGENDA, THIS IS THE, THIS IS GONNA BE THE FULL BOARD AGENDA THAT'S SEPARATE.
THIS WILL BE WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY, THIS STRATEGIC PLAN, AND WE'LL HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING OUTSIDE OF OUR NORMAL FULL BOARD MEETINGS SCHEDULED ALREADY.
IS IT THE SIZE OF THE PACKET OR, BECAUSE IT, IT'S WITH THE SCOPE AND THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW, SO, CORRECT.
YOU'RE MOVING ON AHEAD WITH YES, SIR.
SO THE NEXT ITEM TO DISCUSS HERE IS THE BSB MEMBERSHIP ATTENDANCE.
UM, MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG SCREEN.
UM, I, I DIDN'T BRING MY GOLD STARS TODAY, BUT THERE'S A FEW OF YOU GUYS THAT WOULD GET GOLD STARS TODAY IF WE WERE GIVING OUT GOLD STARS RIGHTS.
AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF COMMITMENT IT TAKES, UH, AS ONE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S THE BALANCING ACT.
YOU'RE TRYING TO BALANCE, YOU KNOW, REAL LIFE WITH WHAT YOU DO TODAY AGAIN.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.
THIS IS JUST GENERALLY AN ATTENDANCE REPORT THAT WE PUSH OUT.
UH, I THINK EVERYONE, FOR THE MOST PART IS STILL IN COMPLIANCE WITH ATTENDANCE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE NOT KICKING ANYBODY OFF DUE TO ATTENDANCE.
AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS UPDATE.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT ANYTHING ABOVE 70 IS AN A.
YEAH, WE GRADE WITH A CURVE HERE.
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ALL RIGHT.SO THIS IS GONNA BE THE COMPOSITION, IF YOU WILL.
SO WE DO HAVE ONE VACANT POSITION ON PANEL B.
IT'S, EXCUSE ME, TWO, UM, RECENT CHANGE.
OKAY, WELL, YES, WITH COURTNEY ROSE.
SO IT'S TWO VACANT POSITIONS, RIGHT? SO FOR PANEL B, UM, SO AGAIN, ONE'S AT LARGE AND ONE CATEGORY WEIGHT, IF YOU WILL.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT THIS POINT NOW, IN REGARDS TO THE MAKEUP OF THE LAYOUT OF THE PANELS, RIGHT? SO PANEL A IS STILL FULLY, UH, STAFFED AND PANEL B, WERE SOLICITING OR LOOKING FOR, UH, TWO NEW MEMBERS TO JOIN PANEL B.
SO, AND JUDY, I THINK THERE ARE MULTIPLE CANDIDATES BEFORE THE CITY, UH, CLERK'S OFFICE AS FAR AS THE ABILITY TO REPLACE THOSE TWO PANELS.
WE DO HAVE ONE APPLICATION FOR A NON VSB MEMBER FOR AN AT LARGE POSITION, BUT NOTHING YET FOR DISTRICT EIGHT.
AND OUR, SORRY, ROBERT BINKY, UH, OUR TERM IS UP, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
AND FOR THOSE OF WHO REAPPLIED, WILL YOU GUYS JUST LET US KNOW AT SOME POINT IF WE'RE STILL HIREABLE, I GUESS, OR HOWEVER
YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING THE BSBS IN THIS MONTH, MAY 31ST, RIGHT.
BUT CERTAINLY JUDY WOULD KEEP YOU INFORMED OF THE, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, ALSO, UM, I, AND JUDY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I, I DON'T EXPECT DISTRICT EIGHT TO GET, UM, FILLED UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.
THAT'S, I'M JUST GUESSING THAT, BUT I, I JUST DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE'S NOT EVEN AN APPLICATION OUT RIGHT NOW.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I'M JUST GUESSING, WOULD THAT ALSO BE THE AT-LARGE AS WELL TOO, UNTIL EVERYBODY GETS SETTLED INTO COUNCIL? I'M NOT GONNA SPECULATE AS TO THE AT-LARGE.
I, I'D, I'D LOOK TO JUDY FOR THAT ANSWER.
WOULD THAT BE KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA WAIT ON IS TO SEE WHEN THE DUST SETTLES ON THESE RUNOFFS? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
WE WILL WAIT FOR THAT, UM, TO COMPLETE.
AND ALSO, UM, I'LL REACH OUT TO THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS ONCE THEY'VE BEEN APPOINTED INTO OFFICE TO GET THOSE REAPPOINTMENT MEMOS FOR, FOR EACH OF THE MEMBERS.
YOUR BASIC PLAN SHOULD BE, YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE UNTIL YOU'RE TOLD OTHERWISE.
AND THAT COULD BE THE REST OF THE YEAR.
IT COULD BE WITHIN A MONTH, SO IT DEPENDS.
BUT, BUT PLAN ON STAYING AROUND FOR A WHILE, PLEASE.
WE'VE GOTTA CLEAN OUT YOUR LOCKER BEFORE END OF THE MONTH.
SO
IF THERE'S A CERTIFICATE WAITING BY YOUR NAME PLAQUE THERE, THEN YOU KNOW
ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE MAKEUP OF THE PANEL? NO.
AGAIN, WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
DEPUTY, IF YOU WANT TO CHOOSE TO SIT DOWN, GO AHEAD AND SIT DOWN SINCE BILL ALLOWED YOU TO SIT DOWN, BUT HEART STATE, IF WE HAVE, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE IN A WHILE, A HISTORICAL BUILDING PROPERTY COME BEFORE US, WE CAN STILL DO IT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD CORRECT? I, I THINK NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THE MA, EXCUSE ME, THE MAJORITY, BUT YOU ALSO STILL HAVE THE, UH, THE, UM, LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I'M, BEFORE I SPEAK ON TURN, UM, WE COULD STILL HAVE, IS THAT CORRECT COUNSEL, OR NO? YES, I'M GONNA SAY YES, BUT I'LL DEFER TO COUNSEL JUST TO MAKE SURE IF, UH, UH, HISTORIC PROPERTY IS BROUGHT IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD AS A DP AS IT STANDS TODAY.
YES, WE COULD, THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU.
THANKS FOR PUTTING THE UPS AND DOWN, DANNY.
IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH CAREER HERE, ISN'T IT? UH, THE COMPLIANCE ASSISTANT FUND IS, IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY IS, IS ANOTHER GOOD THING THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS DONE.
UH, AND WE'RE GONNA GET AN UPDATE ON THAT AT THE PRESENT TIME.
MY NAME IS MIKE ES MICHAEL ESTI, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I'M A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER.
UH, TODAY I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A VERY BRIEF, UM, UPDATE ON THE COMPLIANCE FUND.
UM, SO THIS INFORMATION IS FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS THAT WE ISSUE.
OUR CODE OFFICERS GO OUT AND THEY ISSUE, UH, CIVIL CITATIONS, WHICH TAKE 'EM TO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER.
UH, THE FINES RANGE FROM 300, 500 TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY VIOLATIONS YOU GOT, IF IT'S THE FIRST VIOLATION, 302ND 500, THIRD 1000.
UM, SO THE AMOUNT OF VIOLATION, SO, AND YOU'LL LOOK HERE, YOU'LL SEE, UM, VIOLATION FINES DUE, AND VIOLATION COSTS ARE DUE, AND THEN TOTAL.
UH, SO WHEN THAT FINES DUE, THE, UH, FINES DUE ARE ACTUALLY THE FINES THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING COURT, UH, THAT THEY ISSUE TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS GOING BACK, UH, RIGHT TO THE GENERAL FUND TO GO AHEAD AND DEAL WITH THE FINES, THE COST DUE.
THAT'S THAT $20 AMOUNT, UH, THAT HAS GONE AHEAD AND TAKEN.
SO THEY CAN USE THAT AND PUT THAT TOWARDS THE COMPLIANCE ASSISTANCE
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FUND.UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE ISSUED, UH, 700 AND, UH, $752,885 TOTAL, AND YOU'LL SEE IT'S $48,680 FOR THE COSTS DUE AT $704,000, 200, UH, $205 FOR THAT, UM, VIOLATION FOR THE FEES DUE.
THE AMOUNT PAID, AS YOU'LL SEE BELOW, IS UH, DIFFERENT.
THE MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEM DEALS WITH THE COLLECTION OF THE FINES, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND CODE ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T, UH, THE AMOUNT OF FINES PAID IS $90,555.
THE OUTSTANDING FINES IS $662,330, UM, EQUALING TO THE AMOUNT WE PREVIOUSLY TOLD YOU OF $752,885.
UM, WE DO GET THE AMOUNT OF ABOUT $15,000, WHICH IS $15,390 TO SPEND EVERY FISCAL YEAR, WHICH STARTS IN OCTOBER.
UM, TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO HELP SOMEBODY, CODE OFFICERS.
IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY OUT THERE WHO MAY HAVE A HIGH GRASS THAT NEEDS TO BE ABATED, UH, LET US KNOW.
UM, SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ASSIST THEM.
AND OF COURSE, UH, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ISSUES, UH, MAYBE THEY NEED THEIR HOUSE PAINTED OR MAYBE THEY NEED A REPAIR DONE.
UH, THIS YEAR WE SPENT 7,000, LET ME SEE HERE.
AND THE OTHER AMOUNT, UM, IS ALREADY ENCUMBERED.
WE'RE GONNA PAY USE THAT BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS IN OCTOBER.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY SELECTED A PROPERTY AND THEY'RE JUST WAITING FOR IT TO PROCESS.
LAST I CHECKED, UM, LAST YEAR, WE DID HAVE, UH, WELL, WHEN THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE FUND DID START, WE DID HAVE A LITTLE ISSUE, UH, GETTING, GETTING GOING BECAUSE THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE FUND WAS SO, UH, POPULAR.
UH, BUT THIS YEAR WE'RE, WE'RE UP AND RUNNING AND GETTING IT GOING.
ANY QUESTIONS? ROBERT BINKY? UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WHY ARE OUTSTANDING FINES AND COLLECTIONS? JUST SO, I MEAN, WE GOT BARELY A DENT COMPARED TO THE FINES ASSESSED AS OPPOSED TO COLLECTED.
IS THERE, I CAN, UH, ASK OUR MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEM ABOUT THAT.
THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE A STAGGERING NUMBER TO ME OF NON COLLECTIVE MONIES.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, ARE LIENS PLACED ON THESE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THESE OUTSTANDING FINES? UM, NO, THESE ARE NOT LIENS.
UM, SO WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THESE ARE CIVIL CITATIONS.
SO EVENTUALLY, ONCE THE MUNICIPAL COURT DOES GO INTO COLLECTION METHODS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS GETS REPORTED TO THEIR, UH, UH, THEIR CREDIT RATINGS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UM, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE MUNICIPAL COURTS, BUT LAST TIME I GOT AN UPDATE, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
IT DOESN'T GET, THESE ARE NOT LIENS.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.
UH, THE MINUTE THE ENFORCEMENT ME MECHANISM IS THROUGH THE COLLECTIONS THAT OUR MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEMS DOES CHAIR, IF, IF THIS BOARD WANTS TO, WE CAN GET A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MUNICIPAL COURT, SEE IF THEY COULD ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
I'D LOVE TO HEAR, I MEAN, YEAH, THEN WE WILL ADD THAT INTO THE REQUEST IF WE COULD.
JUDY, AND THIS AS A, A FOLLOW UP TO THAT QUESTION, UM, IS, IS THE REASON THAT LIENS ARE NOT PLACED BECAUSE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CAN'T, CAN'T DO THAT.
UM, I, I KNOW THAT FORECLOSURES ONLY HAPPEN THROUGH THE COUNTY AND NO ONE ELSE.
UH, SO IS THAT, IS THAT THE REASONING? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF LEGAL WANTS TO ANSWER THAT.
SO THESE AREN'T, UM, WE DIDN'T ABATE THE PROPERTY.
SO THESE ARE FINES FOR FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE.
IS THAT OKAY? LEGAL FINE WITH ME, YES.
UM, ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART WHERE YOU GOT THE A HO YES.
THAT PROGRAM, HOW MANY, HOW SUCCESSFUL IS THAT PROGRAM? HO HARMLESS, THE HOLD HARMLESS OR THE ADMINISTRATIVE AREA? THE ADMINISTRATIVE AREA THERE.
WHERE YOU, YOU, THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE HO HARMLESS, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, NO, THE IS SEPARATE FROM THE, THE, THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER.
CA THEY'RE, AH, CASES, ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING CASES, AND THEY'RE HEARD BY AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER.
'CAUSE I GOT IT CONFUSED BECAUSE WHEN WE SEE SOME OF THE NOTES THAT COME IN HERE, THEY ABBREVIATE IT WITH A HO, WHICH IS THE WHOLE HARMLESS OH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE HOLD.
HARMLESS? NO, THE HOLD HARMLESS.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ONE LATER.
THAT, YEAH, THAT'S MY, THAT'S ON ME.
FINAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD.
I, I WILL DO A REAL QUICK SHOUT OUT FOR THE CITY'S TOOL SHED PROGRAM, UH, BECAUSE THAT CAN ALLOW CITIZENS TO DO THEIR OWN WORK, UH, WITH TOOLS THAT THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT THEY COULD GET.
UH, AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT
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THE TOOL SHED PROGRAM, IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE IN TERMS OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR IT.UH, NEXT ITEM IS GOING TO BE THE DEMOLITION STATUS.
AND ALICE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE UPDATE US.
ONCE AGAIN, ALICE GOHAR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER, CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO WE COULD ALL GO TO LUNCH.
UM, FOR DEMOLITION STATUS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2025, COUNCIL DISTRICT HAD THREE APPEALED CASES, ONE DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY, ONE RELEASED TO CONTRACTOR AND ONE BS.
B ISSUED REPAIR ORDER, AND TWO, ISSUED RESET ORDERS FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT.
FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO, WE HAD THREE APPEALS, SEVEN DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY, TWO BY OWNER.
FOUR ITEMS PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
ONE CASE OF, UM, ORDERS PENDING EXPEDIT, UH, EXPIRATION, AND ONE, UH, PERMIT OBTAINED BY THE OWNER.
THREE WORK ORDERS RELEASED TO THE CONTRACTOR, ONE REPAIR ORDER, AND FOUR, RESET ORDERS FOR A TOTAL OF 26.
AND COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE, WE HAD ONE COLLAPSED DURING FIRE.
11 DEMOLITIONS BY THE CITY, ONE DEMOLISHED BY THE OWNER.
ONE ITEM PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
OPERATION REBUILD, UH, PROPERTY SUBMITTED, UH, TWO RELEASED TO THE CONTRACTOR.
ONE ISSUED REPAIR ORDER AND ONE RESET ORDER FOR A TOTAL OF 19.
DISTRICT FOUR, WE HAD FOUR APPEALS, FIVE DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY, ONE DEMOLISHED BY THE OWNER.
ONE ITEM PULLED FROM THE AGENDA, ONE ORDER PENDING, UH, EXPIRATION, AND ONE ORDER FOR RESET FOR A TOTAL OF 13.
IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE, WE HAD ONE APPEAL, 19 DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY, TWO DEMOLISHED BY THE OWNER, AND TWO ORDERS PENDING EXPIRATION.
TWO ORDERS RELEASED TO THE CONTRACTOR, TWO ORDERS FOR A REPAIR, AND ONE ORDER FOR A RESET FOR A TOTAL TOTAL 29.
AND CITY COUNCIL TH SIX, WE HAD THREE DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY.
ONE, UH, BSB ORDER PENDING EXPIRATION, ONE ORDER FOR REPAIR AND ONE ORDER FOR A RESET FOR A TOTAL OF SIX.
DISTRICT SEVEN, WE HAD TWO APPEALS, ONE DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY, ONE DEMOLISHED BY THE OWNER.
ONE ITEM PULLED FROM THE AGENDA, ONE ORDER PENDING EXPIRATION.
THREE, WORK ORDER, THREE WORK ORDERS RELEASED TO THE CONTRACTOR, THREE REPAIR ORDERS, AND ONE RESET ORDER FOR A TOTAL OF 13 IN CITY COUNCIL.
DISTRICT EIGHT, WE HAD ONE DEMOLISHED BY THE CITY FOR A TOTAL OF ONE CITY COUNCIL.
DISTRICT NINE HAD ZERO, AND CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 HAD ONE DEMOLISHED BY THE OWNER FOR A TOTAL OF ONE.
THAT TOTAL ROLL, UH, FOR ALL DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH 10 IS A TOTAL OF 116 DEMOLITIONS.
THESE NUMBERS INCLUDE DECONSTRUCT AS WELL AS, UH, KINETIC DISASSEMBLY SAY YES, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, MR. CHAIR, UH, GO AHEAD.
UH, WHAT DOES RELEASE TO CONTRACTOR MEAN? MEANING THAT THE ORDERS HAVE ALREADY EXPIRED, SIR, AND THE CONTRACTOR IS, UH, ABLE TO PROCEED, UH, IN OBTAINING PERMITS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH A DEMOLITION.
MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL AND, UM, NO APPEAL HAS BEEN FILED AGAINST IT.
SO THEREFORE, UH, THE ORDER THAT THIS BOARD HAS GIVEN IS NOW ENFORCEABLE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS, HAS DONE THEIR PROCEDURE AND THEY'VE RELEASED IT TO THE CONTRACTOR.
AND THE ONLY THING THEY'RE WAITING FOR IS THE CONTRACTOR TO SCHEDULE IT AND HANDLE WHATEVER ABATEMENT PROCESS NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND THE, THE APPEAL FILED COLUMN, THAT MEANS THAT AFTER THIS BOARD HAS ORDERED A DEMOLITION, THEN THE INTERESTED PARTY HAS APPEALED TO A DISTRICT COURT.
WELL, AFTER THIS BOARD HAS, HAS, HAS, HAS MADE AN ORDER, UM, AND THAT ORDER HAS BEEN RECEIVED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE INTERESTED PARTY, THEN THEY FILED THE APPEAL.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BEFORE THE APPEAL DEADLINE HAS, HAS EXPIRED, IT'S DURING THAT APPEAL DEADLINE.
THEY HAVE FILED THEIR APPEAL WITHIN THAT DEADLINE.
UNLESS I'M LOOKING, UNLESS I'M LOOKING AT IT WRONG.
AM I, I DON'T THINK I AM, BUT I, I, NO, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO, SO FOR THE PERIOD THIS REPORT IS, UH, COVERING, THERE'S BEEN 13 CASES APPEALED TO STATE DISTRICT COURT FILED.
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PENDING, THEY'RE PENDING RIGHT NOW.THEY HAVE BEEN FILED AND A, AN APPEAL HAS BEEN FILED.
AND SO THOSE, THOSE CASES PENDING, YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THE, THE ORDER THAT THIS BOARD HAS, HAS, HAS, HAS, UH, HAS MADE, HAS BEEN APPEALED.
IT'S NOW WITH LITIGATION IS WITH AVITAS, UH, SAM ADAMS AND ORLANDO MATA.
AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE, UH, DEFENDING, UM, UH, THE, THE, THE CITY'S, UM, POSITION THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO, UM, GO IN AND DEMOLISH AND ACT ON THE BOARD'S ORDER.
AND WE HAVE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE SAYING, NO, WE WANT THIS TO BE DONE A, B, AND C, AND THEN WE LET LITIGATION HANDLE IT.
BUT YES, FILE, UH, APPEAL HAS BEEN FILED WITHIN THE 30 DAYS.
UM, I'VE GOT THREE, UH, ON 48 DEMOLISHED PROPERTIES.
THE CITY'S DEMOLISHED, 48 OF THEM.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND SEE IF THAT'S AN UPTICK FROM LAST, THE LAST, UM, STATEMENT? YES, SIR.
WE CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU IN THE NEXT FULL BOARD MEETING BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES WE SAW THIS YEAR THAN WE NORMALLY SEE.
AND THE UPTICK ON THE DEMOLITION SEEMS TO BE UP, AND IT MAY NOT BE, BUT IT DOES TO ME.
AND THEN WHEN IT SAYS BSB ORDERS PENDING EXPIRED, WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY? MEANING THAT THE, THE ORDERS HAVE, UM, AND ON THE VERGE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JUDY, THEY'RE ON THE VERGE OF EXPIRING FROM THE TIME OF WHEN YOU ORDERED IT.
FOR INSTANCE, THERE IS A, UM, A REPAIR ORDER AND YOU'VE GIVEN THEM 90 DAYS.
AND THOSE 90 DAYS ARE ABOUT TO EXPIRE, BUT ON A DEMOLITION, IF WE GIVE 'EM 30 DAYS, IT MAY TAKE LONGER THAN 30 DAYS.
BUT THAT DOESN'T EXPIRE, CORRECT? NO.
YOUR, YOUR 30 DAY, YOUR 30 DAY, UH, ORDER WOULD'VE EXPIRED ON 30 DAYS.
BUT, OKAY, SO IN THAT, I MEAN, AFTER THE, OKAY.
YEAH, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON SOMETHING.
YOU FILE, YOU, YOU ORDERED DEMOLITION OF A PROPERTY WITHIN 30 DAYS.
WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL AFTER THOSE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL.
IN ESSENCE, THE CLOCK IS, IS, IS RUNNING IN REGARDS TO WHEN CAN THE CITY GO OUT THERE AND, AND HANDLE THAT PROPERTY? MY RIGHT.
AND THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO IT, IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE TIMELINE, WHEN WE ORDER THAT, IS THE TIME START THEN? OR DOES THE TIME START AS SOON AS IT'S TIME, TIME STARTS THE DAY.
AND JUDY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TIME STARTS AS SOON AS IT'S MAILED OUT.
AS SOON AS THE DAY IT'S MAILED OUT.
SO ALTHOUGH THIS BOARD MIGHT ORDER A DEMOLITION ON TODAY, WHEN THE ORDER GETS MAILED OUT IS WHEN THE 30 DAYS BEGIN, THAT'S WHEN THE CLOCK BEGINS, BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY GETTING ABOUT 45 DAYS IN THAT PROCESS.
'CAUSE YOU GOT ABOUT TWO WEEKS BEFORE WE SIGN IT.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT TWO WEEKS.
'CAUSE JUDY USUALLY WILL YEAH.
WILL CONTACT US THE NEXT THURSDAY OR THE NEXT WEEK.
SO I WOULD, YEAH, I WOULD SAY MAYBE FIVE.
THERE ARE SOME THAT, THERE ARE SOME THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
SO THEY ACTUALLY GET A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT 30 DAY PROCESS.
THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY, NOT ONLY DO THEY GET A LITTLE LONGER THAN THIS 30 DAYS, THEY HAVE A A, A AND, AND, AND I'LL LET JENNY TELL ME IF, IF I'M WRONG, THEY DON'T REALLY START THE, THEIR 30 DAY CLOCK UNTIL AFTER THE 30 DAY APPEAL DEADLINE HAS EXPIRED.
SO THEY ACTUALLY GET A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DO WHATEVER.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER ONES, UM, THE NUMBERS, I GUESS THIS IS, I GUESS THIS IS A GOOD THING.
'CAUSE IF THE NUMBERS ARE TICKING UP, THAT MEANS PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE INVOLVED IN THEIR COMMUNITIES IF THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THESE COMPLAINTS ARE COMING FROM.
SO THAT TELLS ME THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING IN A POSITIVE, IT'S TAKE THIS LONG TO DO IT.
IF SOMEBODY COULD CHECK THOSE NUMBERS AND SEE IF IT'S GOING UP OR IF IT'S ACTUALLY GOING DOWN.
ANY, THOSE NUMBERS AND IF THAT CAN BE PRESENTED IN THE NEXT FULL BOARD MEETING.
AND I GUESS WITH MR. ES, ACTUALLY WE DO HAVE, UM, DANIEL IS ABLE TO PULL, UM, THE ACTIVE LIST RIGHT NOW SO HE CAN READ OFF WHILE WE DON'T HAVE A PRINTOUT AVAILABLE, IF YOU CAN READ OFF SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.
'CAUSE I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT PEOPLE LOOK FOR IN THE COMMUNITY IS THE NUMBERS AT THE BOTTOM TELL US IF WE'RE SUCCESS OR IF WE'RE NOT.
IF IT'S GOING UP AND WE'RE DOING THAT PROPERLY, THEN MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA FEEL BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING MORE INPUT SAFETY.
JOEL, JUST UM, ON DISTRICT 10, YOU SHOWING THAT ONE HOUSE WAS, UH, DEMOED BY THE OWNER.
I TAKE IT THAT THAT MEANT THAT THAT WAS AN ORDER FROM THIS COMMITTEE TO HAVE THAT HOUSE DEMOED.
AND THEN THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS THAT THE OWNER OBTAINED DEMO PERMIT SHOWS ZERO.
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THEY HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO GIVE PERMIT IN ORDER TO DO THAT DEMO? I'M SORRY.I THINK ARE YOU REFERRING TO, UM, ITEMS PULLED WHERE IT SAYS ZERO SIR? NO, I'M SAYING UNDER.
OH, I SEE OWNER OBTAINED DEMO PERMIT.
I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION QUITE AT THIS TIME, BUT WE CAN REVIEW THAT.
BUT IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE OWNER DO, UH, GET A, A PERMIT ONCE A DEMOLITION WELL BEFORE THE DEMOLITION IS COMPLETE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS OF CPS DISCONNECT, HISTORIC NOTIFICATION.
SO, EXCUSE ME, BUT JUDY, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT WOULDN'T BE A ONE TO ONE IF THE OWNER DEMOLISHED? WE WOULDN'T SHOW A ONE IN THAT COLUMN.
THIS WOULD BE, THEY'RE IN PROCESS OF THE DEMOLISHING, BUT NOT BECAUSE THE OWNER, BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE COLUMN FILLED OUT, WE WOULD HAVE THE OTHER COLUMN.
CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT, JUDY? OR IF THIS IS JUST AN IN PROCESS OF ANOTHER CASE IN PROCESS? THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY QUESTION WAS, WAS THIS REALLY AN OWNER SAYING, I HAVE A PROPERTY, I WANNA DEMO IT.
I'M COMING DOWN HERE TO PULL A PERMIT FOR IT.
SO THAT WOULD NOT BE A CASE THAT WE WOULD'VE HANDLED.
SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES 116 ARE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA FOR, UH, BSB FROM OCTOBER, 2023 THROUGH APRIL 30TH.
SO THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE AGENDA.
UM, FOR THE ITEMS PULLED THAT ARE THE CASES THAT ACTUALLY WERE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA, UM, DEMOLISHED BY OWNER WERE ACTUAL BSB ORDERS THAT WERE ISSUED OUT TO THE OWNER.
BUT THE CITY, UH, I'M SORRY, THE OWNER WENT AHEAD AND DEMOLISHED THOSE STRUCTURES.
SO FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT 10, THERE WAS ONE BSB ORDER, UM, FOR DEMOLITION, BUT THE OWNER WENT AHEAD AND DEMOLISHED THAT.
BUT TO CLARIFY, THE, THE OWNER OBTAINED DEMO PERMIT, THAT'S AN OWNER DOING SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.
UM, I'M SORRY, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THE DEMO PERMIT PULLED.
I DON'T HAVE THAT LISTED ON HERE.
IF THE, IF THE OWNER PULLED A DEMOLITION PERMIT, THE COLUMN NEXT TO IT IS ITEM PULLED.
THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
SO JUDY TWO, UH, THE FOURTH ROW FROM THE THICK ROW IS, UH, OWNER OBTAINED DEMO PERMIT AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE HE'S ONLY ONE HERE.
SO THAT IS ONE CASE, UM, THAT'S PENDING RIGHT NOW, THAT THE OWNER HAS ALREADY OBTAINED A PERMIT FOR, UM, THAT DEMOLITION TO OCCUR.
SO IT'S NOT AN OVERALL, OVERALL NUMBER OF HOW MANY HOUSES WERE DEMOED IN, IN ADDITION.
IT'S JUST FOR THE ONE PENDING CASE RIGHT NOW FOR THAT PROPERTY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT SUBJECT? OKAY, ALICE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
I'LL NOT BE PRESENTING THE BSB ORDERS AND ACTIONS FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH APRIL 30TH, 2025.
DANGEROUS STRUCTURED CASES, UM, HEARD BEFORE THE BOARD NUMBER OF BSB ORDERS AND ACTIONS.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE PANEL A NUMBER OF BSB ORDER AND ACTIONS AND PANEL B NUMBER OF BSB ORDER OF ACTIONS.
THERE WAS NOT ANY FOR REPAIR ORDER WITH PENALTY REPAIR ORDER WITH WITHOUT PENALTY ON PANEL A, WE HAD ONE.
ON PANEL B WE HAD THREE FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR.
THERE WAS NOT ANY REMEDY WITH PENALTY REMEDY WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY DEMOLITION ORDER WITH PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY DEMOLITION ORDER WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY NO LONGER A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
THERE WAS NOT ANY 30 DAY DEMOLITION WITH PENALTY.
THERE WAS NOT ANY 30 DAY DEMO WITHOUT PENALTY.
FOR PANEL A, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 12.
PANEL B HAD A TOTAL OF 15 FOR A TOTAL OF 27 CASES.
DEMO 60 DAY DEMO WITH PENALTY, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY 60 DAY WITHOUT PENALTY.
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY 90 DAY WITHOUT, WITH PENALTY WE DID NOT HAVE ANY AND 90 DAY WITHOUT PENALTY, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY 120 DAY WITH PENALTY.
ON BOARD NUMBER OF BSB ORDERS WE HAD ONE.
PANEL B HAD ONE FOR A TOTAL OF THREE.
TOTAL NUMBER OF DATA STRUCTURES PRESENTED WERE 34 S-A-P-M-C CASES.
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY WITH REPAIR ORDER WITH PENALTY REPAIR ORDER WITHOUT PENALTY.
PANEL B, WE HAD SIX FOR A TOTAL OF 16 IN COMPLIANCE.
NO REMEDY ORDERED WITH PENALTY.
NO REMEDY ORDERED WITHOUT PENALTY.
THERE WAS ZERO PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
THERE WERE A TOTAL NUMBER OF S-A-P-M-C
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CASES OF 16 FOR SUMMARY ABATEMENT.THERE WERE NOT ANY, UH, CASES PRESENTED FOR THE THE BOARD AT ALL.
ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS, BOARD NUMBER FOR EMERGENCY DEMOLITION READ INTO RECORD.
PANEL B HAD 10 FOR A TOTAL OF 34.
HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS, WE HAD ONE FOR THE BOARD, ONE FOR PANEL A, THREE FOR PANEL B, AND FIVE TOTAL RESET ORDERS.
WE HAD ONE IN PANEL A FOUR IN PANEL B FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES, ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS WERE 94.
NEXT IS GOING TO BE NUMBER OF B-S-B-S-B CASES BY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH APRIL 30TH, 2025.
IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE, WE HAD THREE DP CASES.
14 SANTO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES, TWO EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, ZERO HOLD HARMLESSNESS FOR A TOTAL OF 19.
CITY COUNCIL, DISTRICT TWO DP CASES, WE HAD 12 SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES.
WE HAD ONE EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS.
WE HAD SIX AND THREE HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS, UH, SIGNED FOR A TOTAL OF 22.
DISTRICT THREE HAD EIGHT DANGEROUS PREMISES, ZERO SANEL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES, FIVE DEMOLITIONS AND ONE HOLD.
HARMLESS AGREEMENTS SIGNED FOR A TOTAL OF 14 CITY COUNCIL.
DISTRICT FOUR HAD SIX DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES.
ONE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASE FOUR DEMOLITIONS, ZERO HOOD HARMS AGREEMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF 11 CITY COUNCIL.
DISTRICT FIVE HAD 11 DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES, ZERO.
SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES SEVEN EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS.
ONE HOLD HARNESS AGREEMENT FOR A TOTAL OF 19 CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT HAD THREE DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES, ZERO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES TWO, EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS ZERO HOLD HARMLESSNESS FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
DISTRICT SEVEN HAD FOUR DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES, ZERO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES, ZERO EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS AND ZERO HOLD HARMS AGREEMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR.
DISTRICT EIGHT HAD ZERO S PREMISES CASES ZERO SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES, ZERO EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS AND ZERO HOLD HARMLESSNESS AGREEMENTS SIGNED.
DISTRICT NINE HAD ZERO DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES ZERO.
SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, ZERO EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS, ZERO HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENTS.
AND CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 10 HAD ZERO DANGEROUS PREMISES CASES ZERO.
SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES ZERO EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS ZERO HOLD, HARMLESSNESS, ZERO HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT SIGNED.
THIS IS FOR A TOTAL OF 94 CASES PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM, SIR.
UH, AND, AND I'LL, I'LL BRING IT UP.
UH, LET'S PROVIDE AGAIN, AN UP, NOT AN UPDATE, THE, UH, COPY OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD GUIDELINE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY HAS A COPY THAT'S CURRENT OR NOT.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND DISTRIBUTE THAT AGAIN.
BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE OR MAY HAVE HAD A COPY OF THE PROCEDURES, IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THEM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP OR QUESTION IN TERMS OF OUR CURRENT POLICIES OR PROCEDURES? OKAY.
SO THE, THE, WE'LL DISTRIBUTE AGAIN, THE, THE, THE CURRENT, UH, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
SO YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER OR IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT FULL BOARD MEETING ITSELF.
UH, I DO WANT TO SAY THANKS VERY MUCH TO THE BSB LIAISON STAFF.
JUDY, YOU AND YOUR STAFF ARE GREAT.
UH, THE, THE LADIES WHO STAND IN FRONT OF ME OR SIT IN FRONT OF ME EVERY MEETING, AND ALSO MR. ANDIS, UH, ARE GREAT ABOUT KEEPING US UNDER CONTROL.
SO TO YOU TWO LADIES ESPECIALLY.
THANKS FOR THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU GIVE TO THEM.
AND MR. ANDERSON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT OR NOT, BUT, WELL, IT GOES BEYOND THAT.
IT GOES TO ALL OF THEM E TO INCLUDE, IF YOU COULD PASS IT ON TO ALL THE, THE CODE COMPLIANCE.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS.
AND IT'S GOTTA START AT A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL AND WORK ITS WAY UP.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE COUNSEL AND EVERYBODY WHO HELPS US GET THROUGH THIS.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THERE WAS SOME OTHER ISSUES.
I GUESS WE CAN DO IT DURING ADMINISTRATIVE
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COMPLETE.THIS READY, UH, WE'RE AT, WE'RE AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU, THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO INCLUDE, UH, FROM THE POLICIES AND GUIDELINES, PROCEDURES? AND WE HAD NONE.
UH, BUT THANKS TO THE LEGAL STAFF, ESPECIALLY FOR KEEPING US INDEED LEGAL, CONTRARY TO WHAT I HAD TOLD YOU EARLIER IN TERMS OF MY LAST INTERACTION WITH A LAWYER,
YOU DO INDEED ABIDE BY THE LAW AND WE ABIDE BY THE LAW.
BUT A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE BOARD.
UH, YOU ARE AN INCREDIBLE GROUP OF PEOPLE.
UH, YOU'RE HERE, UH, ON LITERALLY EVERY TIME THAT WE HAVE A BOARD, UH, FROM AT LEAST THE CHAIR, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
IT'S AN INCREDIBLE JOB THAT YOU DO.
UH, YOU'RE ALL ACTIVELY ENGAGED, UH, AND ESPECIALLY TO THE CO-CHAIRS THAT SIT, UH, NEAR ME OR CLOSE BY ME EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, OR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND A WHILE, KEEPING ME STRAIGHT.
BECAUSE IT'S OFTENTIMES THAT THIS CHAIR AT LEAST FAILS TO DO HIS JOB.
AND FORTUNATELY, THE CO-CHAIRS OR, OR VICE-CHAIRS WILL CORRECT ME AND OCCASIONALLY EVEN ONE OF YOU GET TO CORRECT ME, UH, BECAUSE HE AIN'T RIGHT ALL THE TIME.
BUT HE SURE TIES TO BE THAT WAY.
ANY OPEN ISSUES OR DISCUSSIONS THAT WE NEED TO BRING UP BEFORE WE CLOSE? I HAVE A FEW ITEMS. OKAY.
UM, FIRST, UH, I BROUGHT IT UP LAST WEEK ABOUT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT THROUGH PHONE CALLS.
THERE ARE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ACCEPT, UH, THE THREE MINUTE PHONE CALL AND PLAY IT DURING THE MEETINGS.
AND I WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WAS, UH, AVAILABLE FOR THIS.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE ADVISORY BOARDS ARE ONE THING, THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT.
SO THE QUESTION OF THE LEGALITY OF THAT WAS, WAS WHAT I WANTED AN ANSWER TO.
YOU NEED ONE OF YES, I DO, BUT I NORMALLY DO HAVE ONE.
BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE DID DISCUSS THIS LAST WEEK.
I DID TALK TO SAVITA ABOUT IT, UH, BRIEFLY.
UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT, UH, I GUESS AFTER IT, IT WAS A WHOLE THING PRIOR TO ME BEING HERE.
BUT AFTER, UH, THE PANDEMIC, WE DIDN'T ALLOW ANY KIND OF VOICEMAIL OR PHONE CALLS.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS CONSIDER, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING THAT WE WOULD USE FOR EITHER THE HEARING IMPAIRED OR THE, UH, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY COMMUNICATIONS WHERE WE'RE STILL ABLE TO DO THAT AND MAYBE TRANSCRIBE IT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN READ IT INTO EVIDENCE.
LIKE, SO THERE'S PEOPLE THAT, FOR THE BLIND OR FOR, UH, THE, THE, THE MUTE THAT ARE UNABLE TO, UM, COMMUNICATE, UH, THERE'S THE TRANSCRIPTION OF IT.
SO WE ARE GONNA LOOK INTO SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT TO PROVIDE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY, BASICALLY TO USE THE SAME THING WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO DO OTHERWISE.
UM, THE SECOND THING, UM, I REQUESTED THIS, THE LAST, UH, FULL BOARD MEETING WAS SOME INFORMATION FROM NHSD, IF WE CAN HAVE THEM AT THEIR NEXT FULL BOARD.
AND, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR FROM NHSD, UM, A REPORT ON, UM, THE DARK COLLABORATIONS, UM, AND THE REFERRALS THAT THEY'RE GIVING, UH, TO THE, THE INDIVIDUALS AT THE HOMES.
UM, LA THE LAST BOARD I QUESTIONED VERY MUCH, UM, REFERRALS VERSUS PEOPLE ACTUALLY BEING HELPED BECAUSE REFERRALS WERE REPEATEDLY BROUGHT UP AS A RESOURCE OR REFERRAL BY MULTIPLE, BOTH OFFICERS AND NHSD WHEN THE REFERRAL WAS ACTUALLY A ARRIVED TO HAVEN FOR HOPE.
SO I WAS LOOKING FOR A MORE DETAILED REPORT BACK, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY RECEIVING SERVICES, HOW MANY REFERRALS ARE, AND AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, BECAUSE THE PROGRAMS HAVE CHANGED, SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT WERE AVAILABLE LAST YEAR ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, ALSO JUST UNDER NHSD, UM, THE COOL ROOF PROGRAM, I WOULD LIKE, UH, TO HEAR A PRESENTATION ON THAT.
IT'S OPEN APPLICATIONS RIGHT NOW.
UM, PEOPLE CAN GET THEIR ROOFS REPLACED AND HELP WITH THEIR ENERGY COSTS.
AND I'M WANNA KNOW IS, IS THAT BEING REFERRED TO CODE IS LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT PROGRAM, ET CETERA.
SO THIS IS ERIC BURNS, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR, UM, YOU WANT, UM, NHSD TO COMMENT ON THEIR PARTICIPATION WITH THE DART DART
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UNIT? DART UNIT.AND THEN YOU ALSO WANT, UM, SO YOU WANT SOME OTHER INFORMATION FROM NHSD? SO I, I THINK WE CAN, YEAH, I DON'T, JUDY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE IN REGARDS TO GETTING NHSD HERE.
UM, I ALSO, UM, UH, BASED ON COMMUNICATION, AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I, AND I DON'T MEAN TO STEAL ANYBODY'S THUNDER, YOU WOULD LIKE SOME INFORMATION ON THE PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTION PROGRAM.
UM, WE ALSO WANT SOMEONE, UM, FROM MUNICIPAL COURT TO DISCUSS ADMINIS JUST IN GENERAL, THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING PROCESS, OR I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR ON WHAT YOU, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THEY'RE HAVING IN THE COLLECTIONS PROCESS.
SO THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING PROCESS AND, UM, THEIR COLLECTIONS PROCEDURE.
UM, I DIDN'T MEAN TO STEAL YOUR THUNDER.
WAS THERE ANYTHING, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN I HEARD YOU, I THOUGHT YOU, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMETHING ELSE IN REGARDS TO THE, UM, UM, NHSD AND THE DART TEAM.
SO I, I WILL, WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE SOMEBODY HERE FOR THAT.
UM, WELL, AND I, I ASKED LAST TIME, LIKE OF THE, OF HOW MANY REFERRALS ARE GETTING MADE FROM NHSD THROUGH CODE, LIKE WHEN THEY, UH, APPEAR WITH CODE AT A PROPERTY, HOW MANY REFERRALS ARE GOING OUT, AND HOW MANY OF THOSE REFERRALS ARE ACTUALLY RECEIVING SERVICES? AND YOU'RE NOT LOOKING TO LIMIT THAT JUST TO THE DART INSPECTIONS YOU WANT TO KNOW IN JUST IN GENERAL.
WOULD THAT BE FAIR? UM, I, I COULD.
I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU, YOU'RE WANTING BOTH.
I LIKE IF, FOR AN EXAMPLE, IF THERE WAS A SPREADSHEET ON THE SCREEN, I WANT IT TO SAY DART AND THEN NON-ART.
JENNY, YOU, UH, BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE DO GET COMMENTS FROM AT LEAST THE CODE OFFICERS IN SOME OF THE REPORTS, UH, THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE AVAILABLE.
AM I CORRECT WITH THAT? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMPILE NEW? UM, MOST OF IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE.
WE WILL NEED TO, UH, REACH OUT TO AN HSD FOR THE ONES WHO HAVE SUCCESSFULLY FILTERED.
WE DON'T, I DON'T RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION ON A STANDING BASIS OF HOW MANY HAVE RECEIVED RELOCATION SERVICES, IS WHAT I BELIEVE IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE RELOCATION SERVICES.
SO, WELL, THERE'S MULTIPLE, WE WORK WITH AN HSD, THEY DO TRACK THAT.
THEY WOULD BE THE ONES TRACKING THAT.
SO WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THEM FOR THAT.
THE REFERRALS FROM OUR END OF CODE, WE DO, WE DO TRACK THAT.
AND, UH, WE CAN PULL THOSE NUMBERS AND THEN COMPARE TO HOW MANY HAVE RECEIVED THE SERVICES.
NOW, THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN THE DART AND THE NON-ART, WE WOULD NEED TO DO A LITTLE EXTRA, UH, FORMULATING, BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BREAK THAT OUT AS WELL.
BUT THAT'S A STANDARD PRACTICE.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU, I KNOW YOU DIDN'T ASK THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IT.
UH, I GUESS, UH, DO YOU WANT THAT ACTUALLY PRESENTED WITH EACH OF THE CASES THAT COME IN BECAUSE WE GET IT ON AN OCCASIONAL BASIS AS OPPOSED TO AN ACTUAL I, I WOULD LIKE MOVING FORWARD THAT TO BE, IF WE COULD, LET'S ASK THE CODE OFFICERS WHEREVER POSSIBLE TO PRESENT THAT, THAT THEY WERE OFFERED HELP AND GOT IT, DIDN'T TAKE IT OR WHATEVER.
THEY JUST DON'T DO IT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME.
WELL, CODE OFFICERS WON'T BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY SUCCESSFULLY RECEIVE SERVICES, ONLY WHETHER OR NOT THEY GAVE A REFERRAL.
WELL, UH, SO WHAT WE CAN, AND I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, SIR.
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS KEEPING IT ON THE SCHEDULE FOR NHSD TO COME TO THE BSB HEARINGS.
WHAT WE HAD BEEN LIMITED THEIR ATTENDANCE TO THOUGH WERE THE DART CASES WHERE THAT IS HAPPENING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME.
IF THERE IS SOMEBODY ON SITE, THEY, THEY ATTEND EVERY DART INSPECTION.
I ATTEND ABOUT 75% OF THE INSPECTIONS FOR SAFETY CHECKS, FOR QUALITY CONTROL, FOR MAKING SURE WE'RE HITTING ALL OUR MARKS AS WELL.
AND WE DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE PART OF THE DART TEAM.
SO THERE IS SOMEBODY AT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE.
UM, WE DO HAVE IN OUR INTERNAL PROCEDURE, UM, EXACTLY THAT, IF IT IS AN OCCUPIED PROPERTY, THOSE ARE THE ONES, OR IF, UM, MAYBE SOMEBODY'S LIVING THERE UN ILLEGALLY OR UN YOU KNOW, UNDER, NON, UNDER CONTRACT, WHETHER THEY'RE UNHOUSED OR WHATNOT.
UM, IF WE DO COME ACROSS THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL MAKE SURE TO, UH, PUT IN THEIR STANDARD COMMENTS AND, AND NOTATE IN THEIR SCRIPTING, UH, IF SOMEBODY WAS FOUND ON THE PROPERTY AND HOW THEY WERE REFERRED AND, AND, UH, WHERE THAT LED TO.
NOW, WE MAY, UM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE OUTCOME OF JUST REGULAR BSB CASES, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO ENHANCE WITHIN HSD BECAUSE WE HAD NOT BEEN ASKING THEM TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION BACK TO US.
BUT WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION AND, AND CHAIR, I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE AND BOARD THE REST OF, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME A DART PROPERTY IS BROUGHT IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD, NHSD IS SITTING RIGHT THERE.
AND ALSO AT THE SAPD OFFICERS, THAT PERSON IS AVAILABLE TO YOU
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IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO ASK.UM, WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PERSON, UM, WAS GOING TO BE HERE FOR EVERY, UH, BSB, UH, WHERE A-A-A-A-A DART PROPERTY IS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU.
SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL ALWAYS BE HERE, BUT YES, WE WILL HAVE, WE WILL HAVE THEM HERE FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
AND THEN, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION.
IT'S NOT JUST RELOCATION SERVICES.
THERE ARE OTHER SERVICES AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WERE AVAILABLE LAST YEAR ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
AND THERE ARE NEW PROGRAMS. UM, IT WAS A PILOT PROGRAM BEFORE THE COOL ROOF PROGRAM.
UM, BUT IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE TO HEAT ISLAND NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET A NEW ROOF.
SO, UM, IF CODE OFFICERS ARE NOT AWARE OF THAT PROGRAM TO REFER AS THEY'RE GIVING, UH, GOING OUT AND DOING INSPECTIONS, I MEAN, THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE'RE AWARE OF.
I JUST, NO, I GUESS WE ARE AWARE OF THAT.
IT'S CALLED THE ONE ROOF PROGRAM.
BUT WHEN WE DO, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE TRAIN OUR STAFF TO MAKE REFERRALS FOR EVERYTHING.
WE DON'T JUST DIRECT 'EM, YOU ONLY CAN APPLY FOR THE, YOU NEED TO APPLY FOR THIS, YOU NEED TO APPLY FOR THIS.
WE, WE LEAVE IT WIDE OPEN TO ADVISE THEM TO APPLY FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY POTENTIALLY COULD, UH, QUALIFY FOR.
NOW, RENTERS WILL BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, OR, OR OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES WILL DEFINITELY BE DIFFERENT THAN RENTER OCCUPIED.
AND THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY DISTINCTION THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT WE HAVE EMPHASIZED.
BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T LIMIT THEM TO APPLY OR REFER 'EM TO APPLY FOR JUST ONE PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
THE, THE MORE THEY'RE APPLYING FOR, THE MORE THEY'RE INQUIRING ABOUT, UH, HOPEFULLY THE MORE THAT THEY WOULD RAISE THEIR CHANCES OF BEING, UH, SUCCESSFULLY APPROVED FOR SOMETHING.
QUESTIONS FROM THAT END? YEAH, UH, SHE ANSWERED IT.
MR. ANES, I'VE GOT SEVERAL THINGS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ASKED, AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF THEY'VE EVER BEEN HERE.
WHEN THE DEPARTMENT, WHEN WE SEND IT OVER TO YOU, REMEMBER THE DEPARTMENT WE SEND IT TO BEFORE IT COMES HERE, IT'S NOT THE, UH, HISTORIC, IT'S, UM, H-D-R-C-H-D-R-C.
CAN WE GET THEM IN HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY TAKE SO LONG? CAN THEY BE YES, WE CAN.
I-I-H-D-R-C AND OHP ARE, ARE, ARE ONE AND THE SAME, BUT YES, WE CAN, UH, WE WILL SPEAK WITH OHP AND AND AND SLASH HDRC AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE COME FOR THE NEXT FULL BOARD MEETING.
SO I DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GONNA HAVE MUNICIPAL COURT, UM, UM, NHSD AND OHP APARTMENT INSPECTIONS.
SO I JUST WANTED MAKE, I, I, OKAY.
AND, AND ON THE NEXT PART IS WHEN, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THE PROGRAM OF GETTING, GATHERING THE INFORMATION THAT OTHER, THAT NEW PROGRAM IT, DO YOU GUYS GET FEEDBACK? I IMAGINE YOU DO, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW OFTEN YOU GET IT FROM THE ACTUAL CODE OFFICERS IN THE FIELD, DIRECT FEEDBACK IMMEDIATELY AND NOT HAVE TO SIT AND WAKE IT UP.
DO, DO YOU GUYS ACTUALLY GET SOME OF YOUR FEEDBACK FOR A QUICKER RESPONSE FROM THEM? OH, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES.
UH, I JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
SO YOU'RE ASKING IF, IF STAFF PROVIDES FEEDBACK IN REGARDS TO ANYTHING, OPERATIONAL, PROCEDURAL, WHATEVER, THE FIELD OFFICERS ALL THE TIME, DAILY, RIGHT? IT, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY DAY SOMEBODY HAS A NEW IDEA.
UM, AND SOMETIMES WE RUN WITH IT, SOMETIMES WE DON'T.
FAR AS, UM, BUT IT'S ALWAYS, THERE'S CONSTANT FEEDBACK.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, UM, I WOULDN'T CALL IT ENROLLMENT PERIOD OR REGISTRATION PERIOD OR TIMEFRAME THAT WE SOLICIT IDEAS FROM STAFF.
I MEAN, UH, I'LL USE EXAMPLE, UH, MIKE RE'S TEAM.
I MEAN, HIS STAFF'S CONSTANTLY PUSHING NEW PROPOSALS.
UH, IT'S THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO YES, STAFF IS ALWAYS PROVIDING FEEDBACK.
NOW, UM, SOME THINGS THAT WE, THAT WE MAY IMPLEMENT, UH, ARE EASIER THAN OTHERS, RIGHT.
SOME THINGS TAKE A LONG LITTLE MORE RESEARCH.
SOME OF THEM ARE, UM, UH, THERE'S MAYBE SOME FISCAL IMPACT THAT WE WANNA CONSIDER.
RIGHT? SO IT'S ALL THOSE IDEAS THAT WE SHARE THAT, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HAPPENING ALL THE TIME.
THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE THAT, I GUESS IT'S IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING THAT WE SEE WHERE WE SEE HOW MANY OFFICERS AND THE BUDGET AND ALL THAT.
IS THAT NOT READY YET? OR IS THAT A NOVEMBER ISSUE? THAT'S TYPICALLY IN NOVEMBER.
THAT WOULD BE AFTER THE BUDGET TAKES EFFECT.
WE DO A ROUNDUP OF WHAT OCCURRED THE YEAR PRIOR.
BUT YES, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN THE UPDATE FOR NOVEMBER.
WE'RE ADJOURNED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.