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UH, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT BEFORE WE BEGIN.
MY NAME IS JOHN BUSANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
THE TIME IS ONE OH EIGHT AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION.
IN THE SESSION, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
MARCO BARRO, DISTRICT NINE, ROB SIPES, DISTRICT SEVEN, JOHN WHITSETT, DISTRICT 10 GEORGE, YOU OSA.
EDDIE RAY IS DISTRICT FOUR,
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.
BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.
YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SORT SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT ALLOWS, THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION IN ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST.
FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED AN ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION, OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU'LL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED INTO SPEAK.
AND PLEASE ANNOUNCE WHEN THAT SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE, UM, PODIUM THAT, THAT YOU ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME.
AGAIN, IF YOU ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
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ALRIGHT.UM, AT THIS POINT DO WE HAVE ANY POSTPONE, WITHDRAWN, OR PULLED ITEMS? WE HAVE ONE POSTPONED ITEM ITEM NUMBER TWO.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO AT 1602 LONE OAK AVENUE, THAT ITEM WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.
UH, IT MAY COME BACK IN THE FUTURE IF IT DOES SO YOU'LL RECEIVE THE SAME PUBLIC NOTICE YOU RECEIVED TODAY.
UH, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, UH, IT IS NO LONGER ON OUR AGENDA AND WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.
STAFF, IF YOU COULD GO OVER THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON OUR COMBINED HEARING OR CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE.
A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF NOPE, SORRY.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO PULL EITHER TO PULL TO INDIVIDUAL EITHER ITEM THREE OR 10? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
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READ THESE TWO ITEMS INTO THE RECORD FOR OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R SIX CD WITH A CONDITION OF USE FOR A DUPLEX TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS.ALL RELATES TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 3 0 1 EAST FEST STREET.
OPPOSED LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A DUPLEX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITION USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS AND R FIVE CD WITH A CONDITION OF USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OF RELEASE TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 1 4 4 WEST FRENCH PLACE 30 NOTICES SENT OUT ONE IN FAVOR.
ONE OPPOSED BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE DUE TO LACK OF INFORMATION.
THERE IS AN AMENDED SITE PLAN FOR THIS.
OKAY, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM THREE OR 10? NO PUBLIC COMMENT? NOPE.
VOICEMAIL, WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL FOR ITEM NUMBER 10.
IF WE COULD PLEASE PLAY THE VOICEMAIL PLEASE.
COMMITTEE CHAIR FOR THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
DEAR ZONING COMMISSIONERS, MR. VALENCIA MET WITH OUR ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE IN MARCH.
THE CONVERSATION LEFT US WITH SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AT THE TIME, MR. VALENCIA DID NOT ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT ACTIONS HE WOULD NEED TO TAKE TO BRING THE EXISTING STRUCTURES INTO COMPLIANCE AND ALSO TO BE ABLE TO ADD ANOTHER DUPLEX TO THE PROPERTY.
WE DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM MR. VALENCIA IN LATE MARCH THAT HE WAS WORKING THROUGH A REZONING APPLICATION PROCESS WITH DSD, BUT WE WERE NOT AWARE THAT AN APPLICATION HAD BEEN COMPLETED AND FILED.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, BEACON HILL HAS A VO THE BOTH, UM, PROCESS FOR DECIDING WHETHER TO SUPPORT REZONING REQUEST OR NOT.
THE APPLICANT MEETS WITH ZD FOR INPUT AND GUIDANCE.
IF THE APPLICANT ALREADY KNOWS WHAT ZONING DISTRICT THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR, Z CAN TAKE A VOTE AT THAT TIME TO RECOMMEND SUPPORT OR NOT TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
THE APPLICANT THEN PRESENTS AT THE MONTHLY DONNA MEETING.
ZD GIVES ITS RECOMMENDATION AND A VOTE IS TAKEN, WHICH IS THEN EXPRESSED IN LETTER TO THIS COMMISSION.
IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FULLY WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS WE EXPECT TO HEAR BACK FROM THE APPLICANT REQUESTING A SECOND MEETING WITH ZD.
AS SUCH, WE CAN ONLY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE AT THIS TIME.
IN ABSENCE OF CONTINUANCE, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS REQUEST FOR REZONING ON CASE Z 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 0 9 2 CD AT 1144 WEST FRENCH.
THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? TO MY RIGHT LEFT.
I CAN, I KNOW MY LEFT FROM MY RIGHT I PROMISE, OR I DID, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER THREE WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN.
AND ITEM NUMBER 10 WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR ITEMS THREE AND 10, BOTH WITH AN SITE PLAN WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR EITHER ITEM THREE OR 10 ON FEST OR WEST FRENCH PLACE, UH, YOU CAN GO ABOUT YOUR DAY AND STAY OUT OF THE HOT HUMIDITY.
UH, YOUR NEXT STEP IS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
I DON'T THINK WE CALLED MR. BARROS.
WAS MR. BARROS COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES.
UH, AND DID THE MOTION CARRY? MOTION CARRIES.
I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER BARROS.
UH, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR EITHER ITEM NUMBER THREE OR 10, YOU ARE HEADING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
YOU MUST TAKE YOUR APPLICATION TO CITY COUNCIL WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT COMBINED HEARING IS OUR CONTINUANCE HEARING TO THE JUNE 17TH, 2025 MEETING FOR THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UM, STAFF, WHAT ITEMS ARE ON THIS COMBINED HEARING AGENDA FOR THE CONTINUANCE HEARING? WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER SIX, NUMBER NINE, AND NUMBER 12.
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OKAY.AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO.
IF, UH, DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS AS WELL AS VOICEMAILS? THAT IS, YES.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE VOICEMAILS FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE.
SIR, ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK ON ONE OF THESE ITEMS? ARE ARE YOU OPPOSED TO IT? DID YOU SIGN IN? SO, SIR, AS A RESULT OF, UM, COMMISSIONER KELLUM NOT BEING HERE TODAY, HE ASKED THAT WE CONTINUE THESE CASES FOR TWO WEEKS AND SO AT HIS REQUEST, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT TODAY.
I ALSO, SIR, SORRY SIR, IF YOU'RE GONNA, AND, AND, BUT IF YOU ARE GONNA SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP HERE.
INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS.
YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY YOU WERE SPEAKING? YES.
IF YOU CAN SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
UH, I WAS HERE FOR NUMBER NINE TODAY.
I'M IN THE, UM, IN THE AREA, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME VOICEMAILS.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO, UM, KIND OF SET THE STAGE FOR THESE VOICEMAILS.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP.
THIS IS NOT GONNA BE A FULL HEARING BECAUSE IT'S A CONTINUANCE HEARING.
SO WE WILL LISTEN TO THE VOICEMAILS AND THEN NEXT WEEK, UH, AT OUR NEXT MEETING IN TWO WEEKS, YOU CAN COME BACK AND, AND GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION.
I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT GLARING AT ME MAY NOT BE THE BEST PRACTICE, BUT, UM, ALRIGHT, LET'S HEAR THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
UM, UM, MY NAME IS AL HUM, THE PRESIDENT OF ANO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, JUST CALLING IN REGARDS TO, I DON'T, UH, I DON'T HAVE THE CURRENT CASE, BUT I HAVE THE ADDRESS, 2 3 3 2 2 3 5 AND 2 2 2 7 WEST SOUTH CROSS.
UH, THIS IS A ZONING FROM AN INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRIAL TWO TO A COMMERCIAL WITH CONDITIONS FOR, UH, BUSINESS USE AS A AUTO SALES, UM, BE DONE AS A OPPOSED TO THIS CLASSIFICATION TO, UH, UH, COMMERCIAL WITH, UM, POTENTIAL USE OF A AUTO SALES AS IT GOES AGAINST OUR MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS TO ENCOURAGE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
UM, BUT NOTHING THAT, THAT FAVORS THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE OF THE BUSINESSES.
SO IF YOU COULD, UH, TAKE THIS IN CONSIDERATION.
UH, PREVIOUS CASE WAS Z 2 0 2 5 1 0 7 0 0 1, 0 7.
BUT IT HAS BEEN AMENDED RECENTLY.
SO ADDRESS IS 2 2 3 5 AND 2 2 2 7 WEST SOUTH CROSS.
MY NAME IS BETTY ER, I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF THE ALMOND PARK TERRA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND WE ARE ASKING THAT TODAY IN ZONING COMMISSION ON THE, ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER NINE, BE EITHER, UH, PULLED AND DISMISSED OR WHETHER THEY'RE GIVING US MORE TIME TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE BOARD AND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DO.
WE'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS ZONING CHANGE TODAY AND HOPE THAT THE BOARD WILL UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO BE PRESENT, UH, TODAY, BUT WANT IT TO BE.
AND THAT WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL GIVE US EVER CONSIDERATION THAT YOU CAN AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED MORE, UH, INFORMATION AND SO FORTH BEFORE WE WANT ANYTHING PLACED IN OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I WANT TO THANK THE, UH, ZONING BOARD.
MY NAME IS BETTY
PLEASE GIVE US THE NECESSARY CONSIDERATION.
YES, I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBERS Z 2 0 2 5 1 0 7 0 0 8 8.
UH, REZONING FROM R FOUR TO C ONE.
UH, I JUST WANNA LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT I AM IN, I AM IN OPPOSITION OF THIS IS REZONING, UH, FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL ONE AGAIN, ERNEST SALINAS
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IN OPPOSITION OF CASE NUMBER LAST THREE, LAST 4 0 0 8 8.I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A COMMITTEE MEETING TODAY AND I WANT TO VOICE MY OPINION ON THE OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING.
HELLO, MY NAME IS GERALDINE PETERS.
I'VE BEEN AT 6 1 2 STRINGS DRIVE AND, UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN THREE TWO FIVE ZERO EIGHT THREE FIVE.
I'M CALLING REGARDING THE, THE CASE NUMBER THAT ENDS IN 0 0 7.
IT'S, IT IS IN THE, UH, I'M SORRY, ZERO.
IT'S, IT'S 2 9 1 MARIOSA 0 0 8 1.
AND IT IS, I AM OPPOSED TO THIS.
WE NEED MORE INFORMATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I SERVE ON THE ALMOST PARK, UH, TERRACE AS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS A SECRETARY TREASURER.
WE JUST NEED MORE INFORMATION.
SO MAYBE A POSTPONEMENT OR, YOU KNOW, PLEASE COME TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AND PRESENT WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THAT PROPERTY ON MARIPOSA.
I'M CALLING ABOUT, UM, ZONING CASE, UM, REZONING CASE, UH, OR REQUEST, UH, 10 70 0 8 8.
I'M AT 2 6 8 WEST MARIPOSA DRIVE AND I AM IN OPPOSITION, UH, TO THIS, UM, ZONING REQUEST.
I AM LYDIA RODRIGUEZ, PRESIDENT OF NORTH CHERRY HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I'M CALLING REGARDING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.
I BELIEVE THIS ITEM SHOULD BE POSTPONED UNTIL THE NEIGHBORHOOD INVOLVED HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DELVE FURTHER INTO THIS ISSUE AND DISCUSS IT WITH THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD INVOLVED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, LYDIA RODRIGUEZ 1 0 9 AND LEWIS DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE SIX TWO TEN TWO SEVEN FOUR EIGHT THREE FIVE SEVEN
MY NAME'S PATRICK VAUGHN DOLAN 1 4 5 4 6 BROOK HOLLOW BOULEVARD CALLING IN REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE TODAY AND A REZONING OF A LOT ON SAN PEDRO AVENUE AND WOULD ASK YOU TO POSTPONE THAT UNTIL GREATER INFORMATION AND MORE, UH, PRECISE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE BILLED BUILT THERE ON THAT LOT UNTIL THAT INFORMATION IS MADE AVAILABLE.
UH, THE NEIGHBORS DESERVE TO KNOW AND IT'S, IT'S AN, UH, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT IS GONNA BE BUILT THERE BEFORE, UH, ANY CHANGES TO ZONING ARE COMMITTED TO AND VOTED ON.
SO AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, AND REQUEST THAT YOU DELAY APPROVAL OF ANY ZONING CHANGE UNTIL GREATER INFORMATION THAT IS MADE CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF BUILDING IS GOING TO BE, UH, BUILT ON THAT LOT.
I LIVE AT 1 1 6 1 8 SANDMAN IN THE GREATER HARMONY HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT I AM FAMILIAR WITH THIS CASE, UH, Z 2 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 0 8 8 AND, AND AM OPPOSED TO IT.
I'VE WALKED THIS AREA AS A CANDIDATE AND I CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD FIT FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WISH MORE ZONING COMMISSIONERS WOULD GET OUT AND LOOK AT THEIR CASES INSTEAD OF JUST PULLING IT UP ON GOOGLE MAP.
LOOKING AT IT FROM A BIRD'S EYE VIEW, YOU HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND EXPERIENCE IT.
NEIGHBORHOODS ARE LIVING, BREATHING THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY A CONSORTIUM OF BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP TO COMMERCE TO RESIDENTIAL, AND THIS ONE IS NOT A GOOD FIT UNTIL IT'S BETTER DISCUSSED.
SO I WOULD ASK FOR A CONTINUATION UNTIL YOU CAN REALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT BETTY ECKERT OUT THERE WHO'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH HER NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAS BEEN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS MORE THAN ANY OF US LIVING AND BREATHING TODAY.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU COULD GIVE THIS A CONTINUANCE UNTIL YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER DISCUSSION WITH BETTY ECKERT.
I BELIEVE, UH, THE COUNT, THE COMMISSIONER LUM SHOULD GIVE BETTY ECKER A CALL AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HER.
I LIVE AT THREE 10 HOPE DRIVE SAN ANTONIO.
MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 5 6 3 2 6 2 6 6 4.
UM, I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER NINE
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ON THE AGENDA.THIS IS A REZONING, UH, FROM A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, PLOT TO, UH, LIFE COMMERCIAL.
AND I'M CALLING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, UH, PROPOSED REZONING.
UH, FOR THE REASON THAT, UH, THIS IS VERY BROAD.
IT WOULD, UH, DEFINITELY IMPACT THIS HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, WE DON'T KNOW THE NATURE OF THIS LIFE COMMERCIAL, UH, BUSINESS THAT THAT MIGHT BE, UH, ERECTED.
UM, IT, BUT AT ANY RATE, UM, I, AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, I'M CALLING AN OPPOSITION TO NUMBER NINE, UH, ASKING AT MINIMUM A 30 DAY DELAY SO THAT THIS CAN BE DISCUSSED FURTHER, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ALMOST PARK TERRACE.
WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER SIGNED UP.
JERRY AO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? YEAH, I'M HERE FOR NUMBER SIX.
JERRY, COME ON UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS.
JERRY HERNANDO, 1 0 4 0 6 LAZY F TRAIL.
AND, UM, WE'RE HERE FOR, UH, NUMBER SIX, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S GONNA BE CONTINUED TILL THE 17TH AND, UH, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT WHATSOEVER.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT WILL BE IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS LEFT.
ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO THE JUNE 17TH HEARING ITEMS NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER SIX, NUMBER NINE, AND NUMBER 12.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE 17TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER WATSON FOR ITEMS 4, 6, 9, AND 12 WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEMS 4, 6, 9 AND 12, WE WILL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
ALL RIGHT, WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING.
OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TO APPOINT ONE PRIMARY AND ONE ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE ZONING COMMISSION TO SERVE A TWO YEAR TERM ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS RILEY BOKER, UH, SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE APPOINTMENT OF A PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE MEMBER TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THE PTAC HELPS CITY STAFF REVIEW THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UDC FOR SHORT, UM, AND MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENTS.
UH, THESE APPOINTEES WOULD SERVE A TWO YEAR TERM.
UM, FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, THESE APPOINTEES WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THE 2027 AMENDMENT CYCLE.
UM, SO APPOINTEES SHOULD EXPECT A HEAVY WORKLOAD, UM, WEEKLY MEETINGS WHEN THIS CYCLE REACHES THE P TAC.
UH, FOR REFERENCE, BACK IN 2022, UH, THE P TAC MET ONCE A WEEK FOR ABOUT EIGHT STRAIGHT WEEKS.
UM, EACH MEETING WAS ABOUT FOUR HOURS LONG, LONG, UM, AND THE CURRENT APPOINTED MEMBERS FROM THIS COMMISSION ARE COMMISSIONER SIPES AS THE PRIMARY MEMBER, AND COMMISSIONER BORROWS AS THE ALTERNATE MEMBER.
UM, COMMISSIONER SIPES, DO YOU WANNA GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PTAC DOES AND, AND WHAT YOUR ROLE HAS BEEN AND PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANTLY, INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE WILLING TO SERVE AGAIN,
UM, AND THAT INVOLVES ANYTHING AS SIMPLE AS GRAMMATICAL ERRORS OR GRAMMATICAL IMPROVEMENTS.
I, I MIGHT SAY, UM, TO, UH, UH, WHOLESALE REWRITING OF, UH, SECTIONS OF THE CODE.
UM, THERE ALSO IS, UH, ROAD THOROUGH AFFAIRS,
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YOU KNOW, DECIDING ON WHAT THE, THE FUTURE, UM, GROWTH OF SAN ANTONIO COULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF ROADWAYS, UM, WHICH ACTUALLY WAS, IS REALLY INTERESTING AS WELL, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOWN ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE.UM, I ACTUALLY ENJOYED IT
SO I, MY FEELINGS WOULD NOT BE HURT, BUT, UM, I'LL LET Y'ALL DECIDE.
UH, MR. BOER, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE MAKEUP OF THE P TAC PLEASE? UM, YES.
SO THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, TWO PEOPLE APPOINTING FROM ZONING COMMISSION, TWO PEOPLE FROM BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, TWO PEOPLE FROM THE PARKS BOARD.
UM, THERE'S THREE DEVELOPMENT SLASH REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS, FOUR REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, TWO PLANNING PROFESSIONALS, TWO REGISTERED ARCHITECTS, UH, TWO ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALISTS, TWO HISTORIC SPECIALISTS.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THIS IS SEVEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, AND THEN AS WELL TWO OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE NON-VOTING, UM, WHO ARE CONSIDERED EXPERIENCED MEMBERS FROM PREVIOUS, UH, UDC CYCLES.
AND SO THE IDEA OF SORT OF THIS ECLECTIC MIX OF PEOPLE IS TO GIVE OUR COMMUNITY AND VARIOUS SEGMENTS OF IT, UH, A GREAT DEAL OF INPUT WHEN IT COMES TO, AMONGST OTHER THINGS, MAKING CHANGES TO THE UDC, CORRECT? MM-HMM
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER REBATO, YOU WERE TRYING TO GET MY ATTENTION EARLIER.
NO, I'M JUST WANT TO NOMINATE, UH, MR. SIPES, THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY CONTACT.
UH, THERE IS A NOMINATION FOR COMMISSIONER S SIPES AS THE PRIMARY MEMBER FROM THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE P TAC.
COMMISSIONER WHIT SAID AS THE SECOND.
UH, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? ALRIGHT.
UH, LET'S DO IT BY ACCLIMATION THEN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER S SIPES SERVING AS THE ZONING COMMISSION'S PRIMARY MEMBER TO THE PTAC, SAY AYE.
CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER SIPES.
SEE IT WAS THE FIRST SENTENCE THAT GOT YOU THERE THOUGH.
UH, OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO IDENTIFY A TEMPORARY MEMBER FOR THE P TAC C ALTERNATE.
SORRY, I'M JUST MAKING UP WORDS TODAY.
IS THERE A NOMINATION FOR THE ALTERNATE MEMBER TO THE P TAC OR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO VOLUNTEER THEMSELVES? MR. CHAIR? YES.
I I NOMINATE COMMISSIONER BARTOS AS THE ALTERNATE MEMBER TO THE P TAC SECOND.
THERE IS A, UH,
YOU INDICATED YOU WOULD ACCEPT.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS?
ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE ONCE AGAIN, WE WILL DO THIS BY ACCLIMATION.
UH, IT IS A NOMINATION FOR COMMISSIONER BOTTLES TO SERVE AS THE ALTERNATE FOR THE P TAC FROM THIS ZONING COMMISSION.
CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER BOTTLES.
WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CONTINUITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO Y'ALL'S LEADERSHIP ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT BOARD AS WE LOOK TOWARDS ANOTHER SET OF UDC AMENDMENTS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
THIS MEETING WAS SCHEDULED TO START AT ONE, IT STARTED AT 1 0 8.
WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
MR. SANCHEZ HAD TO STAY HERE PREVIOUSLY FOR SOME THREE HOURS PLUS, UH, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE HIM DO THAT AGAIN.
SO IF WE COULD, LET'S PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER FIVE INTO THE RECORD.
AND IMPORTANTLY, THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT.
WE ARE NOW 30 MINUTES PAST WHEN THIS MEETING STARTED.
BROUGHT TO FOR ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
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ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 4 0 2 AND 4 0 6 SOUTH SARZA MORRIS STREET, GOING FROM C TWO TO C TWO PCD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.ALL OVERLAYS TERM REMAIN THE SAME.
30 NOTICES SENT ZERO IN FAVOR FOR OPPOSED HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO PCD COMMERCIAL PEDESTRIAN DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
A REQUEST FOR C TWO PCD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES WOULD PRESERVE THE C TWO BASED ZONING DISTRICT AND PERMIT THE EXISTING USE OF MOTOR VEHICLE SALES WITH A SITE PLAN THAT RESTRICTS BUILDING AND IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, WHICH CANNOT BE CHANGED WITHOUT FURTHER PUBLIC REVIEW.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT YET HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TO AMEND THEIR SITE PLAN.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE? YES, WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, FRANK AND ANNA SANCHEZ, ARE YOU BY CHANCE SPLITTING TIME OR ARE YOU GOING UP INDIVIDUALLY? INDIVIDUALLY.
FRANK SANCHEZ, HE CAN STILL TALK.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS STAFF.
I LIVE AT 2 5 2 0 SAUNDERS AVENUE.
THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO NCES AUTO SALES.
I BELIEVE THIS IS MAYBE THE THIRD TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND I STILL STAND IN OPPOSITION TO ANY, UH, ANY UPGRADE AND ZONING STATUS.
AND I ALSO STAND IN OPPOSITION TO THE ALTERNATE, UH, RECOMMENDATION WITH CONDITION OF USE FOR, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS NOT, UH, UM, IT'S NOT, UH, AUTO, AUTO SALES IS NOT A GOOD FIT FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
IT'S THE MAJORITY IS RESIDENTIAL SAUNDERS AVENUE.
MOTA STREET IS A HEAVILY TRAFFICKED AREA.
WE'VE HAD VARIOUS ISSUES WITH, UH, RANCHES, AUTO SALES, TAKING OVER BOTH SIDES OF SAUNDERS AVENUE, UH, BLOCKING TRAFFIC, CAUSING BOTTLENECKS.
UM, THEY'VE AFFECTED THE, THE SERVICE ALLEY, THE USE OF THE SERVICE ALLEY, TO THE POINT WHERE THE CITY HAS US MOVING OUR TRASH CANS AND OUR GARBAGE RECYCLING AND STUFF TO THE FRONT OF OUR PROPERTIES INSTEAD OF USING THE SERVICE ALLEY.
I BELIEVE THEY WANT TO, UH, THEY WANT TO HAVE ONE-WAY ACCESS COMING IN FROM SAUNDERS AND GOING OUT THROUGH THE SERVICE ALLEY.
UH, AGAIN, SAUNDERS IS A REAL NARROW TWO, UH, TWO LANE, UH, STREET.
IT'S GONNA CAUSE MORE BOTTLENECKS.
THE SERVICE ALLEY ALSO AS WELL, THAT THAT SHOULD, THAT SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE, THE HOMEOWNERS.
IT'S ALSO GONNA BE AFFECTING THAT AS WELL IF, UH, IF YOU, IF THEY DO DO THAT, COMING IN FROM SAUNDERS AND LEAVING OUT THE ALLEYWAY.
UM, RIGHT NOW HE'S GOT ABOUT MAYBE 30 PLUS VEHICLES AT THE 4 0 2 PROPERTY.
UH, YOU CAN BARELY SQUEEZE BY.
UH, THERE'S ISSUES, WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH VAGRANCY, PEOPLE GOING IN THERE AND HIDING DOING THEIR BUSINESS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE BATHROOM AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S JUST BEEN A BIG NUISANCE.
THE MAJORITY OF MY NEIGHBORS, THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE THERE THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH, AND I BELIEVE A LOT OF THEM HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR COMMENTS VIA THE FORM THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS.
UH, WE JUST FEEL THAT, UH, AUTO SALES, AN AUTO SALES BUSINESS IS NOT A, A GOOD FIT FOR THAT AREA.
BASICALLY WHAT HE'S DOING IS, UH, HE COLLECTS VEHICLES, HE'S HOARDING THEM, HE'S PULLING AND PICKING PARTS, PUTTING VEHICLES TOGETHER, AND THEN HE RESELLS THEM.
SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
UM, THE STREET, SAUNDERS AVENUE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE COMING DOWN ALL THE WAY TO SASA, MOTA STREET.
IT'S OIL STAINS FROM HIM WORKING ON HIS VEHICLES OUT THERE IN FRONT OF THE OUR HOUSES.
I JUST FEEL THAT, UH, IF HE'S GRANTED THIS, UH, C TWO, EVEN THOUGH IT'S STILL C TWO, BUT IF HE GETS, IF HE GETS THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO SALES, IT'S JUST GONNA BE ABUSED.
AND, UH, I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD BE AWARDED FOR THAT.
I MEAN, HE'S HAD 20 PLUS YEARS TO IMPROVE THAT PROPERTY.
AND, UH, I JUST THINK THAT, UH, UH, HE, I, I JUST IN RESPECT, I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS OPPOSE THIS, UH, ZONING REQUEST AND ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION.
MS. SANCHEZ, I BELIEVE YOU'RE NEXT.
HELLO? UM, MY NAME IS ANN SANCHEZ.
I RESIDE AT 25 20 SAUNDERS AVENUE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO FRANCIS AUTO SALES.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT YOU GUYS ARE, YOU KNOW, APPROVING THE, THE REZONING FOR THE C TWO, YOU KNOW, THING.
BUT I FIRMLY OPPOSE AND BELIEVE THAT THERE'S
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SERIOUS OVERLOOKED CONCERNS THAT MUST BE CONSIDERED BEFORE ANY FINAL DECISION IS MADE.THIS PROPERTY HAS FUNCTIONED AS A MAKESHIFT USE CAR LOT FOR MANY YEARS, DESPITE THE C TWO, UH, DOES NOT REFLECT OR PERMIT MANY OF THE ACTIVITIES, UM, THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE ON SITE.
LIKE MY HUSBAND SAID, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE TAKING APART, PULLING APART, YOU KNOW, THE BACK YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE PICTURES THAT I HAVE BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, I'VE TAKEN MYSELF THE BACK LOT HAS BEEN A CAUSE OF CONCERN FOR A LONG, YOU KNOW, A LONG FOR A LOT OF US.
UM, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, TIMES DURING THE YEAR, I AM WALK, YOU KNOW, BRINGING MY GRANDSON BACK HOME AND ALL YOU CAN SMELL IS JUST FUMES, LIKE PAINT FUMES.
I CAN'T LET YOU, YOU KNOW, EVEN LET HIM GO OUTSIDE TO, TO PLAY, UM, NEXT DOOR TO US AS AN ELDERLY WOMAN.
SHE'S OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S SITTING DOWN, YOU KNOW, AND HER SON HAS TO TAKE HER INSIDE BECAUSE OF THOSE FUMES.
NOW, UM, BESIDES TO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY CONSIDER MAKING, YOU KNOW, HAVING HIM HELD TO THE FULLEST COMMERCIAL STANDARDS.
SO THERE SHOULD BE A COMMERCIAL GRADE DUMPSTER TO MANAGE ALL THE WASTE THAT'S GENERATED ON HIS PROPERTY.
THERE SHOULD ALSO BE SOME QUARTERLY SITE INSPECTIONS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE CHEMICALS AND HAZARDOUS, UM, VEHICLE FLUIDS ARE BEING STORED AND DISPOSED OF AND HANDLED PROPERLY.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, OIL STAINED GROUND THAT'S NOT SEALED OR PROTECTED.
AND THIS SUPPOSED, THIS POSES A RISK FOR OUR SOIL, OUR WATER, OUR HEALTH, AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED UNDER THIS REZONING.
SO AGAIN, I URGE YOU TO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THESE MEANINGFUL CONDITIONS, INSPECTIONS, ENVIRONMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROLS AND ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES THAT PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY, THE ENVIRONMENT, ESPECIALLY OUR ELDERLY AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
UM, AND BETTER YET RECONSIDER THIS REZONING COMPLETELY ALTOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, IT REWARDS YEARS OF NON-COMPLIANCE AND LEAVES US THE RESIDENCE TO BEAR THE LONG-TERM COST OF THIS WHOLE, YOU KNOW, ISSUE.
AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AND AS LONG AS I'VE RESIDED THERE, THERE'S BEEN ISSUES AND ISSUES AND ISSUES AND ISSUES AND IT'S PROBABLY ALL OF MY CALLS TO CODE COMPLIANCE, LETTING THEM KNOW, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A RODENT ISSUE, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THESE WATERS THAT YOU KNOW, ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT PILES AND PILES AND PILES OF TIRES ALONG MY FENCE LINE THAT CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, GET WATER.
YOU KNOW, AND I'VE GOT MOSQUITOES, YOU KNOW, MY GRANDSON, YOU KNOW, CAN'T GO OUT.
I CAN'T GO OUT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S RIDICULOUS ALREADY.
SO I REALLY HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS RECONSIDER, YOU KNOW, IN AN OPPOSITION TO THIS WHOLE SITUATION.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT IS IT FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
THERE'S WHAT? THAT IS IT FOR FIVE.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT IS TO ME, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS? YES.
COMMISSIONER TSET, I'M GONNA STEAL YOUR LINE BY THE WAY IN A LITTLE BIT.
I GUESS IT'S A MORE FOR STAFF.
UH, THE EXISTING C TWO ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW ANY CAR RELATED USES OR WHAT CAN THEY DO THERE? VEHICLE RELATED? RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SOME CAR USES THAT THEY COULD USE, LIKE, UM, A LUBE OIL, UM, TIRE REPAIR.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT WHEN YOU GO INTO MORE MECHANICAL WORK AND MOTOR VEHICLE SALES, THAT'S WHEN YOU GO INTO THE C3 ZONING OR A C TWO WITH A CONDITIONAL USE.
AND I, I'M READING ON HERE THAT IF WE APPROVED IT, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR, UH, VARIATIONS.
THAT'S WHAT THE SITE PLAN SEEMS TO INDICATE, IS THAT CORRECT? SAYS THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REQUEST VARIANCE YES.
THE SETBACKS FOR THE BUILDING, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT IS ADJACENT OR ABUTTING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.
SO, AND, AND THEN IF THEY DIDN'T GET THAT FROM THE BOARD OF VARIANCE, WHAT HAPPENED? WELL, THAT WOULD BE THE BUILDING.
THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, REQ WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT CODE.
SO IT'D HAVE TO BE DEMOLISHED OR THEY GRANDFATHERED ANY NEW PROPOSED STRUCTURE, ANY NEW PROPOSED STRUCTURES WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ON THAT SITE PLAN.
SO TO DO THE USE OF MOTOR VEHICLE SALES, IT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THIS SITE PLAN.
AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY EXISTING STRUCTURES.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? ON MY RIGHT? YES.
UH, FOR MR. SANCHEZ, JUST TWO QUESTIONS.
UM, YOUR, YOU MENTIONED YOUR TRASH PICKUP AND EVERYTHING WAS ON SAUNDERS.
OUR TRASH PICKUP WAS IN THE SERVICE ALLEY, THE SERVICE AREA.
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WITH HIM BLOCKING BOTH SIDES OF THE SERVICE ALLEY SO THE TRUCKS COULDN'T GO FIT PAST THERE.REMIND ME, SO DO YOU OWN THE BACK PART TO YOUR NO, HE, HE, THAT, THAT, THAT PROPERTY'S 4 0 6 SOUTH.
I, I OWN LIKE A LITTLE SLIVER.
AND THEN THE OTHER, THE LAST FINAL QUESTION FOR ME WAS DID THE APPLICANT UH, COME TO YOU? DID Y'ALL TRY TO, DID HE NO.
STILL WAS NO COMMUNICATIONS AT THE LAST MEETING? NO.
OKAY, FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
SEEING NONE AND SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
AGAIN, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT IS TO ME FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE MOTION, UH, HAVING WALKED THIS AREA, UH, INCLUDING IN FRONT OF THE SANCHEZ'S HOMES.
UM, HAVING SEEN THE CARS, UH, THAT ARE STACKED ON THIS PROPERTY, UH, SUCH THAT IT DOES NOT RESEMBLE A SALES LOT IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY.
IT DOESN'T EVEN RESEMBLE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT AS A OIL LUBE OR TIRE SHOP.
WHAT IT RESEMBLES AND WHAT IT IN EFFECT IS, IS A SALVAGE YARD.
AND THAT IS A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE THAT CANNOT BE ALLOWED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, CANNOT BE ALLOWED, UH, NEXT TO THE SANCHEZ'S HOME.
UH, I DO APPRECIATE IN COMMISSIONER WHIT'S WORDS THIS VERY PRETTY SITE PLAN.
IT IS GOOD, IT'S NICE, IT LOOKS NICE.
IT HAS 30 CARS ON IT, HOWEVER, AND SAYS IT'S MEANT TO ACCOMMODATE 35.
THAT IS TOO MUCH FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT IS TOO MUCH NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL USE BY THE SANCHEZ'S.
THIS SPACE IS TOO LITTLE FOR THAT NUMBER OF CARS.
AND FINALLY, I DO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN GIVEN WHAT WE'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST THREE MEETINGS FROM THE SANCHEZ'S, FROM MR. RODRIGUEZ, FROM OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO CALLED IN, UM, THAT IN FACT WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IS AGAIN, NOT WHAT'S ALLOWED IN C TWO NOT USED CAR SALES, BUT THE SALVAGE USE, THE PAINTING USE AND OTHER SUPER INTENSIVE USES THAT I SIMPLY CANNOT IMAGINE, UH, COULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND AGAIN, NOT JUST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO DIRECTLY ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL USE.
SO I AM GOING TO MAN MOVE FOR DENIAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
SECOND, AND I DID MEAN TO SAY THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
I REALLY STRONGLY DISAGREED WITH THIS ONE, HOWEVER.
THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WATSON.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
ALRIGHT, SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE HAS BEEN DENIED MR. AND MRS. SANCHEZ, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, REACH OUT TO DEREK TULOWITZKI IN DISTRICT FIVE.
UH, MR. SANCHEZ, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'LL GIVE HIM YOUR NUMBER.
UM, AND UH, USE THE WORD SALVAGE YARDS WHEN YOU CALL IN.
ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 76 30 PACHECO ROAD.
GOING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THERE WERE 31 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR WITHIN 200 FEET, ONE OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.
THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE HAS NOT CONSISTED WITH WHAT IS ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THERE IS EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ACROSS THE STREET, BUT THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED A CORNER ABUTTING R SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON BOTH SIDES.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG PORTAN ROAD, A PRINCIPAL PRIMARY MATERIAL WHICH CAN REASONABLY ACCOMMODATE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC AND THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USES WOULD PROVIDE SERVICES FOR SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES.
SINCE THE PROPERTY OF BUS ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AND IS LOCATED IN AT
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AN ENTRY POINT, THE NEIGHBORING LAND NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS AN ALTERNATIVE OF C TWO NA COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT TO PREVENT USES THAT MAY INVITE NU ASSISTANCE TO THE RESIDENCE.THE APPLICANT IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT MS. WEISLER.
I AM LOOKING FOR A MUSICAL INTERLUDE AT THIS POINT, SO YOU WANT LOOKING AT THE WRONG PLACE.
ALL YOU WANNA SING
UM, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT FROM ME.
UM, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND START.
UM, EMILY WEISLER WITH KI GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE, SUITE TWO 50 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT.
UM, STAFF IS WORKING ON THE PRESENTATION.
WE CAN FLIP THAT, THOSE SIDES WHEN WE GET TO.
UM, UM, BUT WE ARE HERE TODAY REQUESTING A REZONING FOR, UM, 1.77 ACRES ALONG PETRANKO AT THE CORNER OF PETRANKO AND EDWICK, UM, FROM R SIX TO C TWO.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS A CORNER LOT.
PETRANKO IS A FIVE LANE PRIMARY ARTERIAL, UM, AT A MAJOR INTERSECTION.
UM, THIS PROPERTY WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN BEFORE THIS COMMISSION A BAJILLION TIMES WHENEVER POSSIBLE TO ADD AN NA DESIGNATION.
UM, WE WILL ALWAYS DO IT WITHOUT HESITATION WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
UM, THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE IN THIS CASE.
UM, WE DO NOT HAVE A FINALIZED END USER.
UM, BUT ALL OF THE REASONABLE USES THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIS SITE, UM, DO INVOLVE THINGS LIKE A RESTAURANT.
UM, MOST RESTAURANTS OF WHICH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF YOUR FAST FOOD, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT GIVEN THIS SITE IT'S LOCATION, ITS ACCESS POINTS, UM, IS REASONABLE FOR THIS SITE, UM, IS, IS POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT THINGS LIKE RESTAURANTS, UH, COMMONWEALTH EVEN SERVES ALCOHOL.
UM, NOT ALL ALCOHOL USES ARE BAD.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO, UH, LIMIT ALCOHOL SALES FOR OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
I THINK TRADITIONALLY THINGS LIKE LIQUOR STORES TEND TO BE OF BIGGEST CONCERN.
UM, BUT WE CANNOT PERMIT A BAR UNDER C TWO.
UM, BUT WE ALSO COULD NOT HAVE A VAST MAJORITY OF RESTAURANTS, UM, OR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
UM, A CASE WAS HEARD BY THIS COMMISSION FEW WEEKS AGO, UM, ALMOST VERY SIMILAR SCENARIO ON HARDY OAK BOULEVARD WHERE THERE WAS A REQUEST TO REMOVE THE A THAT STAFF AND THIS COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF, UM, FOR A PICKLEBALL COURT, UH, PICKLEBALL FACILITY.
MOST OF THOSE FACILITIES THESE DAYS, UM, INCLUDE SOME SORT OF CONCESSION WITH BARS.
SO, UM, VNA, UM, WE ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION RESPECTFULLY DECLINE THAT TODAY.
SO THIS IS REAL BRIEFLY, THIS IS THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S A VERY LARGE CORNER LOT, UM, AGAIN AT PETRANKO AND EDWICK.
YOU CAN SEE COLLIBRA TO THE EAST FOUR 10 TO THE SOUTH, INGRAM TO THE WEST.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE NSA COMPLEX MICROSOFT, UM, ALL SORTS OF MULTIFAMILY, COMMERCIAL, SINGLE FAMILY, A WHOLE LOT OF USES.
UM, AGAIN, WE ARE REQUESTING R SIX TO C TWO.
THIS IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE PLANTS.
UM, TO BE FAIR, THE SUBURBAN TIER, UM, IS ALMOST AN OUTLIER FOR INTENSITY ALONG PETRANKO.
IT MAKES SENSE THAT THERE'S MIXED USE SPECIALIZED IN OUR EVEN GENERAL URBAN TIER, UM, FOR A FIVE LANE PRIMARY ARTERIAL.
UM, WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, THE NA DESIGNATION IS NOT VOLTED ANYWHERE.
UM, IT'S NOT QUITE FRANKLY, IN EXISTENCE AND AROUND HERE.
YES, THE C3 PROPERTY, UM, AT MICRON IN PETRANKO IS A CHURCH NOW, BUT IT IS JUST A C3 ZONING.
UM, SO THERE'S C3 ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY, UM, A LOT OF C TWO.
THERE IS NO NA ACTUALLY THE ONLY EXISTENCE OF THE NA FUNCTIONALLY UP AND DOWN PETRANKO, UM, IS FURTHER CLOSER AT THE INGRAM INTERSECTION, WHICH WAS A VOLUNTARY, UH, ZONING REQUEST.
I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I ASKED FOR IT, UM, FOR A DATA CENTER.
SO THAT WAS A USE THAT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE INVOLVED ALCOHOL SALES.
UH, WE DON'T SELL THOSE AT DATA CENTERS, SO, UM, AND THAT IS ALSO NOT ON THE FRONTAGE OF PETRANKO.
SO, UM, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO STAFF, UM, AND WILLINGNESS TO ADD THE A WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT IT IS NOT UM, POSSIBLE FOR THIS SITE TODAY.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE, THE
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SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WAS PLOTTED 1979.IT WAS NEVER PART OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
UM, THE, UH, THE COMMERCIAL LOTS, INCLUDING WHAT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM EDWICK WAS PLOTTED WITH THIS LOT IN 1983.
UM, THAT OTHER CORNER LOT WAS ZONED TO COMMERCIAL TO C TWO, TECHNICALLY B TWO IN 1990.
UM, SO IT'S BEEN C TWO FOR 25 YEARS, IF I CAN DO THAT MATH CORRECTLY.
UM, SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT FOR THAT.
WE CAN NO LONGER WITH THE CURRENT CODE UPDATES.
UM, WE CAN'T DO A GAS STATION, CONVENIENCE STORE, GAS STATION HERE ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, SO I THINK A LOT OF THOSE THINGS WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS WITH THE CODE IN AMENDING THE PERMITTED USES.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO ENSURING PROTECTION FOR THOSE ABUTTING RESIDENTS.
UM, THIS IS A VERY LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, BUT I WANNA FLIP TO THIS EXHIBIT.
IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE AT THIS ANGLE, BUT THE YELLOW OUTLINE IS THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES.
UM, THE ADJOINING THE C TWO ADJOINING OUR SIX RESIDENTIAL TRIGGERS, A MINIMUM 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE VERY FAINT GREEN LINE.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 30 FOOT REAR SETBACK.
SO, UM, BEHIND THOSE HOMES, BEHIND THEIR FENCES WILL BE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND THEN ADDITIONAL REAR SETBACKS.
THE NA DESIGNATION DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY SORT OF THING OTHER THAN PROHIBITING ALCOHOL SALES FOR ON OR OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
UM, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO REMAIN A POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH PERMITTING, THROUGH DEVELOPMENT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WITH BUFFERING SAFETY, SECURITY, UM, AS WELL AS YOU KNOW, JUST THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD, WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO BE THAT.
UM, SO WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE REQUEST OF C TWO TODAY.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE TO COMMISSIONER HUEY TO YOU SIR, FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, I WOULD START OFF WITH A QUESTION TO STAFF.
SO RAIO IN, UH, YOUR WRITE UP YOU RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
YOU SAID THE REQUESTED C TWO BASED ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
AND THEN, AND THEN YOU RECOMMENDED DENIAL FOR THE REQUEST OF C TWO AND YOU PROVIDED A RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE OF C TWO NA.
CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND YOUR RATIONALE FOR THAT CONDITION? UM, I CAN HELP ANSWER THAT.
UH, SO THE FIRST ITEM CONSISTENCY IS PERTAINING PARTICULARLY TO THE, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT OF THE ADOPTED PLAN.
SO WHEN WE'RE SAYING THAT THE REQUESTED C TWO BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, WE'RE JUST SIMPLY STATING THAT, THAT THE C TWO ALIGNS WITH THE, UM, SUBURBAN TIER AND UH, GENERAL URBAN TIER, UH, LAND USE DESIGNATION.
IT'S NOT REALLY A STATEMENT ON WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.
SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT TRIGGERED YOU TO RECOMMEND AN ALTERNATIVE OF HAVING ATTACHING THE NA TO THAT? THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS HOW IT ABUTS ALL THE RESIDENTIAL.
WE JUST WANTED TO TRY TO HELP REGULATE, UM, SPECIFIC USES.
UM, LIKE EMILY HAD STATED, THAT WAS MAINLY OUR BIGGEST REASON.
SO THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE UDC THAT DROVE YOU TO THE NA? RIGHT.
IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE UDC, BUT IT IS, UH, BASIC LAND USE PRINCIPLES THAT WE WERE FALLING BACK ON.
THE ALLOWANCES WITHIN THE C TWO ZONING IS REALLY WHAT WE WERE FOCUSING ON.
THAT A THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ABUT THESE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
WE ARE, IT'S SIMPLY A RECOMMENDATION.
THE COMMISSION IS WELCOME TO DO AS THEY RE AS THEY SEE.
NO, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE AS I WENT THROUGH THIS.
AS I MENTIONED IN MY REPORT, IT MIGHT INVITE NUISANCES, NOT SECURE THEM.
UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
SO WHAT WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH OUTREACHING TO THE NEIGHBORS? UM, IT WAS VERY LIMITED.
UH, THERE'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGISTERED, UM, BUT WE DID GET, UM, I WENT DOOR TO DOOR, TALKED TO A COUPLE FOLKS AND WE DID RECEIVE SOME PHONE CALLS.
UM, THERE WAS ONE NEIGHBOR THAT RESPONDED IN OPPOSITION.
UM, I THINK IT WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THE C TWO MEANT.
UM, SO, BUT UM, IT WAS REALLY TO US THAT THERE WAS ALSO NOT A LOT OF CONCERN WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE FUNCTION OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATION ACROSS THE STREET, UM, ACROSS SEDWICK, UM, OR THE TIRE LUBE SHOP.
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UM, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MORE SUPPORTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, SERVICES THERE AND, AND HOPEFULLY SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST THE CONTINUED VACANT LOT.AND THEN UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT UH, WHAT WERE YOU GUYS THINKING OF USING THIS PROPERTY FOR? CORRECT.
SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A A FINALIZED PLAN.
UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE ARE THINGS BEING CONSIDERED RESTAURANT, UM, CAFE, COFFEE SHOP.
MOST COFFEE SHOPS ALSO DO UM, ALCOHOL SERVINGS IN THE AFTERNOONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I MENTIONED, EVEN THERE'S A PROLIFERATION, PROLIFERATION ACROSS THE CITY OF THESE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES THAT HAVE SOME SORT OF CONCESSION STAND BAR.
SO A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
COMMUNITY ORIENTED CENTER THERE.
UM, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A CAR LOT.
YOU COULDN'T DO THAT IN C TWO.
UM, ANYWAYS, BUT, AND THAT WAS PART OF THE PLAN IS TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN THAT IS CONSISTENT AT AN INTENSITY LEVEL THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR PETRANKO BUT ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN IF THIS, UH, REZONING IS APPROVED AND UM, YOU FINALIZE YOUR PLANS FOR USAGE, YOU'LL BE WORKING WITH PERMITTING ON THE SETBACKS ON THAT, ALL THAT OTHER STUFF? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
SO SETBACKS, BUFFERING, UM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BOTH WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY.
UM, THOSE CONTACTS THAT WE'VE MADE, THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT WE'VE TALKED TO, I'M HAPPY TO REMAIN THAT PRIMARY POINT OF CONTACT.
UM, WE KNOW THINGS GET MESSY DURING PERMITTING AND AND BUILDING STAGES, SO WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO BE THAT CONSISTENT POINT OF CONTACT FOR THEM TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, RESOLVE ANY CONCERNS.
UM, EVEN ONCE PROPERTY'S UP AND RUNNING, IF THERE'S CONCERNS WITH SECURITY OR DOWNWARD LIGHTING, MAKING SURE, UM, WITH THE SETBACKS AND STUFF, THIS WOULD MOST LIKELY BE A PETRANKO FRONTING DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SAFE AND SECURE, WELL LIT APPROPRIATELY ON THE BACKSIDE.
HOW WOULD THE RESIDENTS KNOW TO CONTACT YOU? UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE SHARED THAT INFORMATION, UM, WE'LL ALSO WITH SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS.
UM, BUT WE'LL ALSO SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER'S IN THE COUNCIL OFFICE, UM, HAS OUR CONTACT INFORMATION AND KNOWS THAT IF THEY GET CALLS ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT THEY CAN CALL US TOO.
UM, MR. CHAIR, I'M GOING TO, UH, LET THE COMMISSIONERS ASK THEIR QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER REYES FOR THE APPLICANT.
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT ACCESS.
MM-HMM
MM-HMM
THE RAISED MEDIAN IS NOT VERY FRIENDLY FOR LEFT ENDS, THERE ARE OVERHEAD, UH, ELECTRIC, THERE'S A VIA BUS PAD, THERE'S A VERY LARGE CURB INLET AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S EVEN A SANITARY SEWER MANHOLE THERE.
SO IS YOUR ACCESS GOING TO BE PRIMARILY FROM WICK? WHAT WAS THAT? WICK? YES.
WOULD, WOULD THAT BE YOUR ACCESS? YES.
WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING, UM, UH, PRELIMINARY RESPONSE FROM TEXT DOT HAD BEEN MOST LIKELY THAT WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ACCESS FROM PETRANKO.
UM, WHICH ALSO ADDITIONALLY FURTHER LIMITS THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS.
BUT DO WE HAVE A POINTER? THANK YOU.
SO, UM, AND I DON'T, I CAN'T ZOOM IN HERE, BUT SO, UM, THERE IS THIS MEDIAN, THERE IS A CUT THROUGH RIGHT HERE, UM, ON EDWICK THAT GOES IN AND OUT, UM, WITH THIS CORNER LOT HERE.
UM, BUT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT, IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT BIG, BUT FROM ABOUT HERE, SORRY, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT LOOKING WHERE I WAS POINTING.
UM, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR PRIMARY ACCESS HERE.
UM, PETCO'S NOT GONNA BE, UM, MOST LIKELY FEASIBLE.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD WITH, WITH NEIGHBORS ON MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RESPONSIBLE REASONABLE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS KIND OF LIMITED ACCESS ADDITIONALLY LIMITS WHAT IS FEASIBLE THERE.
UH, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT, FURTHER QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HUE FOR YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR C TWO.
COMMISSIONER REYES, BEAT EVERYONE ELSE TO THE PUNCH, INCLUDING YOU FOR ONCE.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REYES.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.
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OSA? YES.UH, IT'S A SIX AND 10 DAY TODAY APPARENTLY.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BETA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,000 BLOCK OF ROGERS ROAD GOING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO C TWO AND A CD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITION OF USE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTORS WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 21 NOTICES MAILED TWO IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION IS IN FAVOR.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND MF 25 LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.
THE EXISTING R SIX IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO AND A CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTORS IS NOT APPROPRIATE LOCATED WITHIN PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE RESIDENCES.
STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSAL IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE AND CONDITIONAL USE OF CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTORS, WHICH IS COMMONLY IN INDUSTRIAL USE, WOULD INCREASE THE FUTURE POTENTIAL FOR HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ENCROACHMENT WITHIN A PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIALLY ZONED BLOCK.
EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE LOWER INTENSE COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE ZONES ALONG ROGERS ROAD, THEY ALIGN WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ARE MORE APPROPRIATE WHEN ABUTTING RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C ONE CD LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO GLASS TIN TEAM AND, UH, PC RECOMMEND, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 ECOMMERCE SUITE 3 0 4.
UH, AS YOU MAY KNOW, IT WAS A LITTLE AIR IN OUR UM, NOTIFICATION.
I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO PROCEED.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO TO COMMENT THAT EVERY TIME OR THE TIMES THAT ANYONE HAS SHOWN UP, UH, WITH QUESTIONS OR TO SPEAK THE UH, PROPERTY OWNER AND MYSELF, WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
IT'S REALLY JUST BEEN CONCERNED THAT WE WERE DOING SOME KIND OF CRAZY C TWO USE, BUT WITH DNA AND THE FACT THAT IT'S BASICALLY GONNA BE AN OFFICE WITH A GARAGE DOOR, THEY'VE BEEN FINE.
SO JUST HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO DO.
UH, IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO COMMISSIONER HUEY TO YOU, THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE.
SO AS MUCH AS WE'D LIKE TO SEE YOUR HAPPY FACE, MR. CHRISTENSEN, I THINK THIS WAS JUST A, UH, CATCH UP ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM.
SO, UH, I HAVE NO COMMENTS, NO QUESTIONS BEFORE I MAKE MY MOTION.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HUEY FOR YOU.
UH, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION, UH, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REYES.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.
MY NAME IS ALEXA RATANA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS LOCATED AT 42 15 HILTON HEAD STREET.
GOING FROM R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO R FIVE CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY WITH NO MORE THAN 16 RESIDENTS.
THERE WERE 32 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.
NORTHERN HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOES NOT OBJECT AND OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET TO OPPOSED.
THE EXISTING R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY WITH NO MORE THAN 16 RESIDENCE IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED
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RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ACCESSED ONLY BY LOCAL STREETS THAT ARE NOT SUITABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC.ADDITIONALLY, THE SIZE OF THE LOT DOES NOT OFFER ENOUGH SPACE FOR REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING FOR THEIR IMPACTING SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE AND IF YOU WOULD GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I'M CAROL GAAR AND I LIVE AT 31 CHAMPIONS RUN.
AND IF YOU WOULD TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEKING HERE TODAY.
IF I STUMBLE OR ANYTHING, IT'S 'CAUSE I'M NERVOUS TO BE UP HERE TALKING, BUT, OKAY.
SO I HAVE THREE ASSISTED LIVINGS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.
I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS NOW FOR 17 YEARS.
OUR HILTON HEAD LOCATION IS WHAT WE CALL OUR BABY HOUSE 'CAUSE IT'S OUR FIRST ONE.
IT HAS BEEN AN EIGHT BED ASSISTED LIVING FOR THE ENTIRE 17 YEARS.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE'S FAMILIAR, BUT IN NORTHERN HILLS, UM, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS PROBABLY THE MOST ACTIVE IN SAN ANTONIO.
I MEAN, THEY ARE ALL RETIRED OVER THERE AND THE HOMEOWNERS DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH US.
MIKE GALLAGHER IS THE PRESIDENT AND HE KNOWS ME VERY WELL AND WE'VE BEEN THERE THE WHOLE TIME AND GET ALONG GREAT.
MY NEIGHBOR TO THE RIGHT IS MIL MILT MCFARLAND, WHO'S OUR ZONING REPRESENTATIVE, WHO IS JUST EVERYTHING TO DO WITH ZONING.
SO HE IS MY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR TO THE RIGHT.
SO AS FAR AS PARKING GO, WE ARE NOT A 16 BED THAT IS A EIGHT BED.
UH, WE HAVE A DOUBLE PARKING IN THE FRONT AND THEN OF COURSE YOUR ROAD PARKING.
AND IF WE HAD A PARKING ISSUE THERE, BELIEVE ME, MILK NEXT DOOR WOULD'VE BEEN THE FIRST ONE TO JUMP ALL OVER US.
AND WE'VE BEEN THERE 17 YEARS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE VERY MUCH TRAFFIC.
ON A VERY BUSY DAY, YOU WOULD HAVE THE STAFF MEMBER THAT'S THERE AND THEN ANY FAMILY MEMBERS THAT MIGHT BE COMING IN AND OUT TO VISIT OR MAYBE CHRISTMAS OR THANKSGIVING WHEN EVERYBODY COMES OVER, THOSE WOULD BE THE ONLY TWO DAYS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE STREET, ANYBODY THAT'S COMING OVER TO VISIT, THERE'S NOT ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC BUILDUP THERE.
YOU MIGHT HAVE MAXIMUM, USUALLY TWO TO THREE CARS THERE AT ANY GIVEN TIME OF THIS RESIDENCE.
IT'S, IT DOES SIT ON THE GOLF COURSE.
SO RIGHT BEHIND US IS, WE ARE ON THE SEVENTH HOLE OF THE GOLF COURSE OVER THERE IMMEDIATELY TO THE BACK ARE SOME TOWN HOMES.
AND THEN THAT ALLEY GOES ALL THE WAY ALONG THE BACK OF OUR, BUILT OUR HOUSE AND THEN IT JUST KIND OF CURVES AROUND TO GO OUT BY, THERE'S A SENIOR SIN CENTER DOWN THE STREET FROM WHERE WE'RE AT THAT I THINK ABOUT DOES IT ALL.
AND THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE JEREMY, THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS REALLY BEEN GIVING ME A HARD TIME BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE THING IS, IS BECAUSE WE NEED A COO FOR THAT LOCATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS A DISTRICT 10 CASE COMMISSIONER.
WHAT'S UP TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS? I GUESS, UH, IF THE APPLICANT COULD COME BACK UP FOR A FEW MINUTES.
SO YOU SAVED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN THIS WAY? SO IT'S BEEN FOR, SINCE UH, 2008.
UH, SO IF YOU'LL STAY STAFF IS, THEY'RE A ALLOWANCE FOR ASSISTED LIVING UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, BUT THE DENSITY IS DIFFERENT.
THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED UP TO A ASSISTED LIVING UP TO SIX RESIDENTS.
UM, AND SO THAT IS WHY THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE ASSISTED LIVING UP TO 16 UNITS, WHICH IS OUR NEXT STEP.
SO TECHNICALLY THEY COULD ADD MORE THAN EIGHT PEOPLE IN THERE.
I MEAN, WOULD YOU, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE
UH, THE PARKING ISSUE, I, I SEE STAFF Y'ALL BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PARK ENOUGH CARS ON SITE AND YOU'RE USING THE ALLEY.
WE DO USE THE ALLEY, LIKE IF IT'S CHRISTMAS, THANKSGIVING, SOME KIND OF HOLIDAY WHERE WE'RE HAVING LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL FAMILY MEMBERS COME OVER AND STUFF TO EAT, THEY'LL USE IT.
BUT USUALLY IT'S THE ONE AND I MADE ALL THAT LITTLE AI THING.
THOSE TWO LITTLE SQUARES IN THE FRONT ARE CARS AND THEN TWO ACTUALLY FIT IN THE DRIVEWAY.
SO THOSE ARE USUALLY THE SPOTS THAT ARE USED FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN AND COME OUT.
IT'S USUALLY 20, 30 MINUTES, BUT DURING, YOU KNOW, A PARTY HOLIDAY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN THEY'LL USE THE ALLEY TOO.
UM, YOU SAID YOU'VE INTERACTED WITH MILT? MM-HMM
UH, WHAT ABOUT OTHER NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE? HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY SUPPORT FROM THEM IN WRITING
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OR DO YOU HAVE A LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD? UH, GROUP OR FROM YES, THE HOA, UM, MIKE GALLAGHER SENT A LETTER WITH HIS APPROVAL.UM, WE HAD TWO THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE 200, WHATEVER IT IS WHO WERE COMPLAINING LIKE 40 YEARS AGO THERE WAS AN ADDITION BUILT ON THERE.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD'S ALL RETIRED PEOPLE, SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, WELL THAT'S NOT ME.
SO, UM, AND ALSO I THINK, UH, MILT ALSO SENT IN A LETTER.
SO CURRENTLY YOU ALL DO NOT HAVE A C OF O YOU'VE BEEN OPERATING ON WITHOUT CORRECT.
IF I COULD JUST SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS SOME QUESTIONS AND I'LL COME BACK.
COMMISSIONER SIPES QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ON ONSITE STAFF? WE DO, UH, THEY UH, WE DO MORNING, AFTERNOON, AND OVERNIGHT STAFFING.
ONE EMPLOYEE AND, AND SO THEY TAKE UP ONE OF THOSE SPOTS IN THE FRONT.
SOME, A LOT OF THEM RIDE THE BUS.
THEY'RE USUALLY, UH, FEMALE EMPLOYEES AND UM, SOME, I THINK THREE OF THEM DO HAVE A CAR, BUT MOST OF 'EM EITHER EVEN UBER, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS OUT FOR THEM, BUT, AND, AND SO THE, THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT CODE, THE FOR THE CITY ALLOWS SIX RESIDENTS.
SO, BUT YOU'RE SEEKING A, A MINIMUM OF EIGHT? WELL, WHEN IT'S BEEN YEARS NOW, BUT THE CITY, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY.
I THINK YEARS AGO, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO WHEN A GROUP HOME BURNED DOWN IS WHEN THE CITY REALLY PICKED UP AND WAS LIKE, WE NEED THESE REGULATIONS IN PLACE.
WE NEED TO DO X, Y, AND Z EVEN THOUGH THE GROUP HOME ISN'T WHAT WE ARE.
'CAUSE WE'RE LICENSED AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN LICENSED THROUGH THE STATE AND THE STATE IS THE ONE THAT GIVE ME THE EIGHT.
OKAY, BUT BUT SIX DOESN'T WORK FOR YOUR BUSINESS PLAN? WELL, BECAUSE THAT LOCATION RIGHT THERE IS BECAUSE THERE, THERE'S TYPE A'S AND TYPE B'S AND THAT'S A TYPE A, WHICH MEANS MOST OF THE RESIDENTS WALK CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS FOR THEMSELVES, BUT THEY REALLY JUST CAN'T BE BY THEMSELVES 24 HOURS A DAY.
SO WITH THAT, THEY'RE A MUCH LOWER RATE AND IT'S A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE TO THAN THE BIGGER HOUSES OR THE BIGGER, UM, LIKE A NURSING HOME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WITH GOING DOWN TO SIX, IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE FINANCIALLY ON WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE AND WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CHARGE IF WE ONLY DID SIX VERSUS EIGHT.
UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, IS IS SIX THE NUMBER, SO UP TO SIX WOULD CURRENTLY BE ALLOWED? THAT IS CORRECT.
IT'S UP TO 16, AS YOU SAID, GOES TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
AND I DID ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO, I HAVE TO DO A COO OR WHATEVER THAT IS FOR ONE OF MY LOCATIONS IN THE MEDICAL CENTER.
AND THAT IS A 15 BED AND IT'S STILL EXACTLY A 15 BED.
I NEVER ADDED ONE MORE PERSON IN THERE BECAUSE 15 IS WHAT WORKS FOR THAT BUILDING.
I THINK, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY RIGHT? YES.
COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, SO, UH, WHAT IS THE MINIMUM AM AM I HEARING THAT SIX, I GUESS USED TO BE LIKE THE MINIMUM BEFORE OR, YOU KNOW, HOLD ON, CITY STAFF.
WHAT IS THE MINIMUM THAT YOU COULD HAVE IN YOUR HOUSE WITHOUT INCURRING ANY KIND OF, UH, CER CERTIFICATE OR ANYTHING? I'M ASSUMING LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW LIKE DAYCARE YOU CAN HAVE UP TO, WAS IT FOUR KIDS, FIVE KIDS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WITHOUT I, THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A STATE ITEM, BUT, SO THOSE ARE STATE REQUIREMENTS, SIR.
SO THE STATE ALLOWS FOR UP TO SIX RESIDENTS.
IF IT ANYTHING OVER THAN THAT, THEN THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO REZONE.
SO SIX BEFORE THE CITY GETS INVOLVED BECAUSE OF THE FIRE, UH, PERMIT, I'M ASSUMING, I BELIEVE WHAT UH, THE APPLICANT WAS REFERRING TO WAS A BOARDING HOME, WHICH ARE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS THAN ASSISTED LIVING.
SO YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT ASSISTED LIVING OR BOARDING? NO, WE'RE IN ASSISTED LIVING.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN LICENSED THROUGH THE STATE.
SO LIKE FIRE DEPARTMENT, LIFE SAFETY, IT USED TO BE DADS, NOW IT'S HHSC.
THEY COME OUT AND THEY INSPECT YOU.
IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT, THEY COME OUT.
A GROUP HOME DOESN'T HAVE REGULATIONS, NOBODY OVERSEES THEM.
AND THEN, UH, MY LAST QUESTION, I USED TO HAVE A FRIEND WHO LIVED ON HILTON HEAD.
THEIR BACKYARD IS BASICALLY THE GOLF COURSE.
IT IS, IS THAT THE EXACT SAME? THEY THEY WEREN'T, THEY WERE ABOUT A BLOCK DOWN
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FROM WHERE, WHERE THIS HOUSE WAS AT.SO WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE ALLEYWAY IS THE ALLEYWAY, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAD AN ALLEY 'CAUSE THEY HAD A LITTLE GATE AND THEN IT WAS LIKE GREEN AND THEN YOU SEE THE LITTLE GOLF COURSE? YEAH.
CARS GO BY AND YOU WAVE AT 'EM.
UM, THE RIGHT THERE WHERE IT SAYS WHEN THE ONE IN RED, THAT SIDE, THAT ROAD THAT'S SHOWING UP THERE, THAT'S AN ALLEY ON CORNERSTONE.
THAT'S AN ALLEY THAT JUST GOES BEHIND ALL THE GOES BEHIND FOUR HOUSES.
AND WE'RE ON THE SEVENTH HOLE OF THE GOLF COURSE.
SO THAT LITTLE ARROW THAT'S US.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LITTLE, IT'S GOT TREES EVERYWHERE, BUT THE ALLEY RUNS THE LENGTH OF OUR HOUSE.
IF YOU'RE THINKING OF A NAME, YOU COULD JUST CALLED IT THE SEVENTH HOLE ASSISTED LIVING CENTER.
COULD HAVE, BUT MY HUSBAND LIKED THAT WHOLE CAROL ANN.
COMMISSIONER RES QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, MA'AM.
IT APPEARS THAT YOUR NEIGHBORS DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, UH, DRIVEWAY.
SO, UM, DESCRIBE ANY TO THE ALLEY.
I MEAN, I MEANT LIKE DIRECT ACCESS.
THEIR DIRECT DRIVEWAYS ARE ON THE, UM, ON HILTON HEAD? YES.
AND CAN YOU DESCRIBE, YOU SAID THERE WAS NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT PARKING, CORRECT? NO, BECAUSE UM, OUR HOUSE IS THE RED ARROW, THE ONE ACROSS THE ALLEY RIGHT THERE.
THAT FIRST ONE IS MILT MCFARLAND.
HE'S THE ZONING REPRESENTATIVE.
SO, AND HE CAN GO THROUGH THE ALLEY.
HE HAS A GATE TO THE BACK OF A BACK OF HIS HOUSE WHEN HE WANTS TO GO TO THE GOLF COURSE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER REYES, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I MIGHT SUGGEST BEFORE WE GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER WIT TSET THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO FOR THE UDC AMENDMENTS PERHAPS.
COMMISSIONER TSET TO YOU FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, SO DO Y'ALL, DID Y'ALL RECEIVE THE LETTER FROM MIKE GALLAGHER IN SUPPORT? WAS THAT FOR, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? UH, YES, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, YES.
SO, UM, WE DID RECEIVE THE LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FROM NORTHERN HILLS, HOWEVER, IT SAID THAT THEY DO NOT OBJECT, SO WE DID NOT GET A, SO TO SPEAK SUPPORT FROM THEM.
UM, I, I HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS UNTIL TODAY.
UM, AND UH, I AM A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING, YOU TECHNICALLY HAVE TO USE AN ALLEY IN THE, UH, CHANCE THAT THAT COULD, UH, CREATE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE.
BUT, UM, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN THERE ALL THIS TIME, UM, AND THERE MAY BE SOME ISSUES OVER STATE APPROVAL PLUS PLUS THE UDC REQUIREMENTS, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT, BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO VISIT WITH, UH, MARK WHITE'S OFFICE AND THE NEIGHBORS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALL OKAY BEFORE YOU GO TO COUNSEL, UM, BECAUSE HE COULD STILL CHANGE THIS IF THERE'S SOME ISSUES THAT POP UP.
SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 11 BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REYES.
UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT? YES.
ALRIGHT, TO QUOTE COMMISSIONER HUEY FROM LAST TIME, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE FOR ME.
UM, UM, I'VE GOT PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH USING, UM, WITH ASSISTED LIVING OF THIS SIZE.
UM, BUT, AND, AND IN THAT CASE, THE ONES THAT I'VE SEEN OF THIS SIZE HAVE ALWAYS HAD A LARGER LOT, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN MORE SUFFICIENT PARKING BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ONLY EIGHT RESIDENTS, THERE WAS ALWAYS A COUPLE CARS.
UM, THERE WAS ALWAYS A DELIVERY VEHICLE.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, YES, COMMISSION CHAIR BUSTA MONTE.
IF THE NUMBER WAS EIGHT AT THE UDC, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
UM, AND THIS IS, I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE.
UM, I'M JUST FEARFUL OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, UM, ONCE YOU OPEN IT UP TO DOUBLING IN SIZE, EVEN THOUGH THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN.
THE, THE, YOU KNOW, I I I'M JUST REALLY TRYING TO COME UP WITH A RATIONALE FOR, UM, FOR INCREASING THAT AMOUNT.
AND SO, UM, AT THIS TIME I DON'T THINK
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I CAN SUPPORT THIS MOTION.I, I RECOGNIZE THAT THE OUTREACH HAS BEEN THERE WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBOR.
I SALUTE THE APPLICANT FOR THAT.
UM, AND UH, BUT YEAH, IT'S JUST A DIFFICULT DECISION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES FOR SORRY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU DONE? I'M SORRY, DID I JUST CUT YOU OFF? NO, I SET OFF RAMBLING.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT.
UH, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA ADD A COUPLE OF CENTS MYSELF.
UH, WHICH IS, I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER S SIPES.
UM, THE ONE THING THAT I THINK PUTS ME OVER THE LINE TO SUPPORT THE MOTION IS, UH, THE FACT THAT THIS IS A CD AND THEY ARE BOUND TO THE SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WERE A CASE WHERE THE ZONING WERE OPEN AND THEY COULD IMMEDIATELY KNOCK THE STRUCTURE DOWN AND NOT BE BOUND TO THAT FOOTPRINT, UM, THEN MY VOTE WOULD PROBABLY BE WITH COMMISSIONER SIPES TO DENY, UH, THIS APPLICATION.
BUT GIVEN THE SITE PLAN, GIVEN THE CONDITIONAL USE, UH, I THINK I WILL BE SUPPORTING.
BUT IT IS A CLOSED CASE AND IT IS A DIFFICULT CASE.
YOU WANT LAST WORD, COMMISSIONER? WITS IT.
WE ARE LOOKING FURTHER INTO THE CODE.
UM, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN DO A CONDITIONAL USE FOR JUST EIGHT UNIT EIGHT PEOPLE.
SO WE CAN AMEND IT TO THE THAT'S WHAT I WANNA CONFIRM.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.
WELL, COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S IT? YOU WANT A VAMP OR YOU WANT ME TO VAMP? I CAN.
OH, COMMISSIONER SIPES CAN VAMP.
NO, I, I, I'LL SAY, UH, UH, THANK YOU CHAIR, UH, BOOSTER MONTE FOR BRINGING UP THE, THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE SITE PLAN.
I, THAT JUST WENT OVER MY HEAD.
SO THAT, THAT IS A HUGE, HUGE ITEM THAT IT'S BOUND TO THE SITE PLAN.
MS. GAAR, YOU WANNA COME UP HERE? WE'RE, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
THE STATE WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO INCREASE SIZE.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION I WAS THINKING OF, BUT WHAT THE QUESTION AND I JUST, I THINK WE CAN DO IT.
I BELIEVE MY OTHER LOCATION THAT GOT AMENDED WAS AMENDED TO 15.
LIKE IT'S WRITTEN IN THERE OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS IT CAN ONLY BE 15 SO IT COULD NEVER GO TO 16.
SO MS. GAAR, IF WE WERE TO POTENTIALLY HAVE THE MOTION AMENDED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF BEDS TO EIGHT MM-HMM
ON THE SITE PLAN, YOU WOULD AGREE TO THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
CAN WE DO THIS? SO YES, AS PER SECTION 30 PER SECTION 35 3 76 LETTER A, UM, IT DOES STATE THAT, UM, A REQUEST FOR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS AND POLICIES THAT THE FAIR HOUSING ACT MAY BE AUTHORIZED AS A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FROM SEVEN TO NO MORE THAN 16 RESIDENTS.
SO IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT WE COULD AMEND TO THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR EIGHT RESIDENCES.
SO COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S UP TO YOU? UH, GIVEN THAT PROVISION, WOULD YOU ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO LIMIT IT TO EIGHT RESIDENTS? I WILL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR THE MOTION AS AMENDED? YES.
COMMISSIONER BATTLES, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT, UH, FOR ASSISTED LIVING.
SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS MOTION THE WAY YOU'RE ADJUSTING AND AMENDING IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION LEFT? YES.
AND I'M GLAD THAT MY RAMBLING
UH, COM COMMISSIONER'S ON MY RIGHT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, I DID PROMISE YOU THE LAST WORD.
UM, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED AT THE PODIUM AND, UM, FUTURE AMENDMENT OF THAT SITE PLAN AND FUTURE AMENDMENT OF THE SITE PLAN TO REFLECT THE EIGHT RESIDENT LIMIT.
UH, MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT SITE PLAN AMENDED
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TO REFLECT THE EIGHT RESIDENT LIMIT.ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 13.
MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 6,000 BLOCK OF ROYAL RIDGE DRIVE GOING FROM O2 A HOD OR O2 OFF OFFICE DISTRICT TO C TWO NA COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE WITH ALL OVERLAY STAIN THE SAME.
THERE WERE 53 NOTICES MAILED 18 IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED ROYAL RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OR ZONE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT RM FOUR MIXED RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT OH TWO HIGH RISE OFFICE DISTRICT AND R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
THE EXISTING O2 IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO NACD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSES MORE APPROPRIATE.
THE REQUEST TO REZONE IS FOR SELF STORAGE USE AND SMALLER OFFICE WAREHOUSE UNITS ALONG THE STREET.
GIVEN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING AND USES TO THE NORTH STAFF FINDS THE C TWO ZONING DISTRICT IS A SUITABLE TRANSITION TO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.
STAFF IS CONCERNED FOR THE EXISTING O2 HIGH-RISE OFFICE DISTRICT SINCE IT DOES NOT HAVE A HEIGHT MAXIMUM TO PERMIT ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR OFFICE SPACE AND COULD POTENTIALLY INCREASE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DESIGNATION IN ADDITION TO THE COMMERCIAL ZONE FURTHER LIMITING THE USES THAT WILL BE PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY.
ADDITIONALLY, THE SITE PLAN PRESCRIBED BY THE CONDITIONAL USE WILL ADDRESS THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING BUILDING SIZE AND IMPERVIOUS COVER COVERAGE.
AND ANY DEVIATION FROM THE APPROVED DOCUMENT WOULD WARRANT ADDITIONAL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
OH, AND THEY ARE GOING TO AMEND SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION.
SO IT'S FROM 4.73 ACRES TO 4.727 ACRES.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
MY NAME IS CECILIA PARRA WITH NOAH'S ARK DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE APPLICANT AND REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER.
MY ADDRESS IS 6 6 3 9 SPRINGBROOK STREET, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 4 9.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND HEARING OUR, OUR REQUEST.
UM, AS SAMANTHA MENTIONED, UM, OUR PROPERTY OWNER HAS MET WITH OUR DISTRICT COUNCILMAN ONE TIME PRIOR TO US.
WE'VE MET WITH OUR DISTRICT COUNCILMAN TWO TIMES SINCE THEN AND WE HAVE HELD A PUBLIC MEETING, UM, FOR THE NEIGHBORS, UH, TO, TO SPEAK ON THIS PROJECT.
WE DID HAVE A GREAT TURNOUT AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MEETING BACK IN MARCH.
I BELIEVE WE HAD, UM, 15 TO 18 RESIDENTS, UH, SIGN IN AND LISTEN TO OUR, UM, PROJECT AND, AND SHARE THEIR CONCERNS AS WE WORKED THROUGH THAT WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THROUGH, UH, THIS IS OUR, UH, OUR PROPOSED, UH, ZONING PLAN HERE.
WE'RE SHOWING THE SURROUNDING ZONING USES, UH, AS MENTIONED C TWO TO THE NORTH AND, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO THE SOUTH.
UM, THE, UH, THESE SLIDES KIND OF SHARE REPETITIVE INFORMATION JUST IN DIFFERENT FORMATS.
UH, WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A MORE MARKETING, UM, PRETTY PLAN FOR YOU GUYS HERE VERSUS JUST A SITE PLAN THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR, UH, PACKET.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO THE, UM, PROJECT WE'RE, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER.
AND I DO HAVE MY CIVIL ENGINEER HERE PRESENT AS WELL TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
BEFORE, BEFORE YOU GO, UH, YOU ARE AMENDING THE SITE PLAN FOR WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TODAY, CORRECT? THE, THE ACREAGE? CORRECT.
AND, AND THE SITE PLAN, THE ACREAGE WAS A AMEND AMEN.
AND SO YOU ARE AMENDING THE ACREAGE FROM 4.73 ACRES TO 4.727, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
ALRIGHT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE, RIGHT? BUT, UH, MY NAME IS LISA COLSON.
I RESIDE AT TEN EIGHT ELEVEN GRAND HAVEN.
I'VE LIVED THERE APPROXIMATELY 32 PLUS YEARS AND FOREVER.
WE WERE ALWAYS WONDERING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THAT LAND HAS TO BE DEVELOPED.
YOU HAVE TO SOMETHING COME IN THERE.
AND I WILL SAY WITH THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, WE BORDER IT AND WE THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA.
I MEAN, WHO CANNOT USE STORAGE AND WHO CAN'T HAVE A SMALL BUSINESSMAN COME IN THERE? THAT COULD BE SOMEONE THAT COULD BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD BE THE BEST THEY ARE TRULY.
YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT GONNA COUNCIL, WE'VE BEEN TO COUNCIL QUITE A FEW TIMES AND
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WE'VE HAD MEETINGS AND ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS WE'VE HAD.I'M THINKING, WOW, WE'RE REALLY BLESSED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNICATION AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR.
SO WE WALK THE BLOCK A BUNCH OF TIMES, KNOCK ON DOORS, AND I CAN SAY THAT EVERYBODY IS INVOLVED THAT LIVES ON THAT BORDERING AND EVEN SOME ACROSS THE STREET.
BUT WE THINK IT'S A GREAT PLAN.
SO I JUST WANNA GIVE A LITTLE SHOUT OUT TO THEM.
THANK YOU, YOU SO MUCH, MS. THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT 1 0 9 0 7 GRAND HAVEN.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 46 YEARS AND I HAVE TO COMPLIMENT, UH, THE, THE NOAHS ARC STORAGE, UH, FACILITY THAT THEY PRESENTED TO US BECAUSE IT, UH, TELLS US THAT IT'S GONNA BE VERY SECURE WITH LOTS THE FENCE AND MONITORING, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN WHAT WOULD GO THERE IN THAT AREA.
AND SO, UH, WITH THE APARTMENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS, BUT WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE STORAGE AREA WILL BE MORE SECURE AND LESS TRAFFIC AND WILL BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE APPRECIATE THE TIME, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBER AND, UH, WITH YOU ALL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. GOLDFIELD.
CAN'T MAKE OUT YOUR LAST NAME.
LARRY, DO YOU WANT THE EXTRA THREE MINUTES? COME ON UP.
YOU, DO YOU WANT THE EXTRA THREE MINUTES? YOU CAN GET SIX.
I DON'T, THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM.
NO, I DON'T NEED, SO IF YOU WOULD JUST GET UP HERE, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US YOUR ADDRESS, TELL US THING.
UH, MY NAME IS LARRY MATTHEWS.
I LIVE AT 1 0 8 1 5 GRAND HAVEN, UM, RIGHT BEHIND THIS PROPERTY.
AND THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS THAT WE HAD OTHER PLANS PROPOSED AND WE, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE JUST HATED EVERY ONE OF 'EM.
UM, BUT THIS ONE, UM, WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS.
UM, WE THINK THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE THIS EYESORE THAT SOME MIGHT THINK, UM, AND, UM, FROM THE WAY IT WAS BEEN DESCRIBED TO US, THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY INTERFERE WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR LIVING SO CLOSELY TO THIS PROPERTY.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT OF ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, THIS IS, WE KNOW IT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED WITH SOMETHING.
THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
UM, REBUTTAL, MS. PATA? I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED IT, BUT IF YOU WANT IT, NO, SIR.
THIS IS A DISTRICT 10 CASE TO COMMISSIONER WIT FOR THANK YOU QUESTIONS.
UM, IF I'D KNOWN ALL THIS, I WOULD NOT HAVE PULLED IT.
I WOULD'VE JUST LET IT GO TO CONSENT.
I WAS LIKE, WHY WASN'T THIS JUST ON CONSENT? WELL, I DIDN'T, NOBODY CONTACTED ME ABOUT IT AND I READ THE INITIAL THING AND I THOUGHT, WHY WOULD YOU PUT COMMERCIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF RESIDENTIAL? UH, SO I DO THINK Y'ALL DID THE RIGHT THING BY GOING TO THE COUNCILMAN FIRST AND GETTING THEM ON BOARD AND GETTING THE NEIGHBORS ON BOARD AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SOLVES ALL YOUR PROBLEMS AND SAVES ME THE TIME OF HAVING TO THINK ABOUT IT.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OTHER THAN TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT WITH THE AMENDMENT OF THE ACREAGE.
YOU SAID THERE WAS A CIVIL ENGINEER, UH, OKAY.
UH, YOU GONNA HAVE JEFF TORE WITH VIKING ASSOCIATES? 12 9 4 0 COUNTRY PARKWAY.
UH, YOU HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS OFF OF ROYAL RIDGE ON THE CURVE.
ANY CONCERNS AT ALL WITH SITE DISTANCE? SO CERTAINLY WITH, UH, WITH US BEING ON THE OUTSIDE BEND OF ROYAL RIDGE THAT, UH, THAT ACTUALLY IMPROVE SITE DISTANCE ON THAT STREET.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER WHITSETT TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE MOTION.
I WISH THEY WERE ALL THIS EASY.
AND, UH, MOTION IS TO APPROVE AS A WITH THE AMENDMENT ON THE ACREAGE.
ALRIGHT, SO THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED, UH, BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS.
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ROLL CALL VOTE.MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
GOOD WORK MS. PATA, FOR REACHING OUT TO THIS COMMUNITY THE WAY YOU DID.
THEY'RE A GREAT COMMUNITY, GUYS.
UM, OKAY, I SEE MR. NORIEGA IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
UM, MR. NORIEGA, WE HAVE MADE A DECISION ON THAT ITEM.
IT IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION, SO YOU CAN ALWAYS TAKE IT UP WITH CITY COUNCIL.
UH, HOWEVER, I WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSION AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT TO A POTENTIAL MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION IF SOMEONE WANTED TO MAKE THAT, OR IF SOMEONE WANTS TO OVERRULE ME BY MOTION, I CAN DO THAT TOO.
ANYBODY, MR. NOY, IF YOU WOULD, IT'S, IT'S BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD, YES.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
ONCE, ONCE AGAIN, WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE COULD DO IT IN THE AFTERNOON BECAUSE WE WERE GONNA HAVE SOME MORE RESIDENTS' GONNA COME AFTER WORK.
UM, IT WAS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF OUR MISTAKES.
WE, WE MADE THE MISTAKE THAT THAT WAS THE CASE AND THAT'S WHY WE WAITED UNTIL, UM, THE LATER ON THE, IN THE MEETING.
AND THEN MS. JOSE LUIS NORIEGA NOGA STUDIO.
I REPRESENT MR. GARCIA IN THE 4 0 2, 4 0 6, UH, SOUTH SUTA MORA STREET.
UH, UH, CURRENTLY HE OWNS A, UH, DEALERSHIP THAT HAS BEEN WORKING FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS.
HE HAS A NON-CONFORMING, UH, APPLICATION YEARLY.
AND UH, HE'S ACTUALLY, UH, PURCHASED A PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT TO THAT PROPERTY SOUTH OF THAT PROPERTY.
AND BOTH OF THEIR ARE ZONED THE SAME WAY.
UM, THEY'RE BOTH, UM, UM, VERY FOR HIM TO BE, UH, ABLE TO UTILIZE IT FOR ACTUAL, UM, AUTO DEALERSHIP.
AND THAT'S WHY HE HAS IT FOR THE AUTO DEALERSHIP.
HE DOES HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR, UM, DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, MECHANIC WORK AND DOING SOME, UH, LOCKSMITH WORK AS WELL.
SO HE HAS ALL THESE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
SO HE HAS, HIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN RUNNING IT FOR 22 YEARS AND NOW HE JUST WANTS TO ADD ON THIS NEW PROPERTY THAT HE IS ACQUIRED THAT'S ZONED THE SAME WAY.
AND REALLY HE'S DOING IT BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY BEEN SO TASKED WITH SO MUCH PARKING AND SO MANY PARKING ISSUES IN THE PREVIOUS, UH, YEARS THAT HE WANTS TO ADDRESS IT TO MAKE IT WAY BETTER.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURES, YEAH, HE DOES HAVE SOME OF THE NEW, UH, UH, VEHICLES SPACED OUT CORRECTLY AND PUT UP SICKLY WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE.
UM, AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE HAD ALL OF THESE ALL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
HE CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE THE OTHER PROPERTY IS STILL IN, NOT IN THE NON-CONFORMING, THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO AMEND THE PLAT.
SO WE, OR YEAH, AMEND THE FLOOR PLA SO HE COULD ACTUALLY ADD IT ON TO THE NON-CONFORMING SO THAT WHEN HE DOES APPLY YEARLY, HE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE HIS VEHICLE SOLD ON THAT CORNER AS WELL.
THAT IN ADDITION, WOULD ALSO ALLOW HIM TO DO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUILDING AND A DIFFERENT TYPE OF APPROACH AND A DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UH, SIGNAGE AND, YOU KNOW, SURVEILLANCE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HE WANTS.
AND SO WITHIN THAT, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY TALKED TO NEIGHBORS.
WE'VE ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, WE'VE MET WITH THEM.
UM, AND LAST WEEK WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS A LOT OF ISSUES THAT THEY WERE REALLY CONCERNED WITH.
SPECIFICALLY THE FENCES ON THE, UH, BUDDING TO THE ACTUAL RESIDENCE OF MS. UH SANCHEZ.
HER AND I HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE.
WE'VE ACTUALLY TEXTED BACK AND FORTH.
I SAID, MS. SANCHEZ, YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF AND I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE CARE OF IT FOR YOU.
UH, SHE SAID, THE TREES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO BETWEEN MY HOME TO YOUR PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY, UM, HURTING MY FENCE AND ACTUALLY MAKING MY FENCE FALL OVER.
COULD YOU PLEASE HAVE HIM REMOVE IT? ONE TEXT I TOOK AND MR. GARCIA REMOVED IT.
UM, I SAID, UH, IS, IS THIS LOOK OKAY? HE'S LIKE, OH YEAH, HE REMOVED THE TREES.
BUT, UM, NOW CAN YOU REMOVE THE ROOTS TOO? AND I WENT BACK AND SAID, ABSOLUTELY MS. SANCHES WILL GO AHEAD AND REMOVE HIS ROOTS TOO.
SO MR. SANCHES ACTUALLY IS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING SOME QUOTATIONS SO THEY CAN GET A PROFESSIONAL OUT THERE TO GET THOSE, UH, TREES ROOTS REMOVED.
HE'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE FENCE REMOVED.
HIS, HIS FENCE, NOT MS SANCHES, BUT HIS FENCE REMOVED.
THEN HE'S GONNA GO IN THERE, ACTUALLY DIG THEM ALL OUT.
NOW I KNOW THIS SOUNDS EXTENSIVE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO IT, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY MR. GARCIA WANTS TO HANDLE THIS SITUATION.
HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING REALLY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND MY TAKE INTO THIS IS THAT HE REALLY, REALLY IS ACTUALLY DOING A GOOD JOB.
NOW, HE CANNOT TOUCH THE SOUTH PROPERTY AT THIS MOMENT, AND MOST LIKELY HE HAS A LOT OF VEHICLES IN THERE BECAUSE HE CANNOT
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TOUCH IT.HE CANNOT, UH, THIS INSPECTOR HAS COME BY AND HE IS ASKED HIM TO NOT MOVE ANYTHING, TO NOT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE HE CANNOT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE NON-CONFORMING.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE STILL SOME OF THE VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT PARKED CORRECTLY.
AND YOU CAN ONLY SEE THAT ON THE ACTUAL NORTH PROPERTY OF MR. GARCIA, WHICH IS ACTUALLY PARKED CORRECTLY.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO MOVE THE OTHER VEHICLES.
ONE, THE NONCONFORMING ACTUALLY INCLUDES THE OTHER PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH.
HE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE VEHICLES AND ACTUALLY PRESENT ON PROPERTY SO THAT THERE IS AN ACTUAL CAR DEALERSHIP THAT HAS A LOT BETTER, UM, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY FRONTAGE, WE TALKED TO, UM, TRAFFIC.
UM, THE TRAFFIC SAID, UH, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM COMING IN FROM ZAMORA ON A VEHICULAR AXIS.
AND I, WE, WE STRONGLY SUGGESTED IT'S REALLY HEAVY AT ZAMORA.
UM, AND I THINK WE WILL KEEP THE SOUND NURSE ENTRY, ENTRY AND EXIT.
UM, AND WE'LL ACTUALLY USE FOR OUR DRESSING.
WE ALSO TALK TO A DRESSING AND A DRESSING IMPLEMENTED THAT WE CAN HAVE A, UH, UM, A FRONTAGE TOWARDS WHAT, TOWARDS ESMO STREET, BUT IT COULD BE A PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE AND THAT'S WHERE THAT PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE IS THERE.
THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE VEHICULAR ENTRANCE FROM THE SAUNDERS IN AND OUT.
IT ONLY EXIT ON THE SOUTH EXIT AT THE ALLEYWAY ON THE, UM, NEXT OF THE SONIC.
WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A BUDDING, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE CONCERNED, BUT I WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY EVEN MORE SUPPORTIVE.
THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO.
IF WE WANT A NEW FENCE, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.
WHATEVER IT IS, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NEEDING FOR US TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING THAT LOOKS BETTER.
THAT IS WHAT MR. GARCIA IS WILLING TO DO, AS YOU CAN TELL FROM HIS EFFORTS.
UM, I APOLOGIZE IF THERE WAS ANY CONFUSION, BUT I'M FAIRLY SURE AT THE LAST MEETING I SAID WE'RE ABSOLUTELY NOT DOING TIME CERTAIN AGAIN
UM, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY CONFUSION, BUT AT THIS POINT I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
MR. NORIEGA, WHAT I WOULD THERE BEING NO MOTION, THE PREVIOUS ACTION ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE STANDS AND YOU WILL BE MOVING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
I WOULD MOST LIKELY RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT MAYBE YOU TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME.
BEFORE YOU GET TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, SEE IF YOU CAN GET THE SANCHEZ'S OVER BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE TODAY.
THAT'S BOTH OF THEM, SO YOU KNOW, KEEP REACHING OUT TO THEM.
AND REACH OUT TO DEREK AS WELL AS YOU HEAD TO COUNSEL.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ARE A RECOMMENDING BO BODY.
AND THAT IS MAINLY OUR, OUR CONCERN IS THAT, THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE AN EFFORT AND IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH YET, THEN LIKE YOU SAID, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO, MAKE THAT EFFORT FOR THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE OF MONTHS OR SO.
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TO ME.I BELIEVE OUR FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA BESIDES DIRECTOR'S REPORT IS THE APPROVAL OF, UH, THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FOR MAY 20TH, ANY AMENDMENTS, CHANGES, ET CETERA.
LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES HAS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARROS.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT TODAY? JUST A QUICK UPDATE.UH, MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE, UH, LEGISLATIVE ITEMS HAVE CLOSED AS OF LAST NIGHT.
UM, WE ARE TAKING THAT ASSESSMENT, UM, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST OF WHAT POTENTIALLY IS ON ITS WAY TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK.
UH, WHEN WE GET MORE CONCRETE INFORMATION, WE WILL DEFINITELY BE SCHEDULING A WORK SESSION TO BRIEF YOU ON ALL THESE CHANGES.
DEPENDING UPON WHAT MAKES IT TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK, THERE WILL POTENTIALLY BE CHANGES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE.
UM, SPECIFICALLY TO ZONING HAS BEEN A HUGE IMPACT THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, SO WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU POSTED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. RAMIREZ.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION, THE TIME IS 2 52 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.