* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] THIS BOARD IS THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD. WE ARE NOW CONVENING. IT'S, UH, 9 0 9, UH, IT'S JANUARY 5TH, 2025. I'M THE PRESIDER OF THE BOARD, AND AT THIS TIME WE GET A ROLL CALL. ROBERT TAPIA. PRESENT. ANNE WINDER. PAUL HERNANDEZ. HERE. DORIS SOLIS. ROBERT BENKE. HERE, ROULETTE SHREEN PRESENT. FRED ANDES PRESENT. ALSO PRESENT IN THE MEETING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE ERIC BURNS AND LUCINDA OROZCO FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER, JUDY KRUM, BSB LIAISON, AND MYSELF, ESTHER ORTIZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SPECIALIST. ONE CHAIR, A CORUS PRESENT. MAY WE HAVE A SPANISH TRANSLATOR PLEASE? GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. UH, THANK YOU. AND AT THIS TIME, I'M VICE CHAIR WILL READ THE CHAIRMAN STATEMENT. GOOD MORNING. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE OR ANY DEVICE THAT MAY DISRUPT THIS PUBLIC HEARING. NO PERSON SHALL DELAY OR DISRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS OR DISOBEY THE ORDER OF THE CHAIR. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON A CASE, YOU'LL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES. HOWEVER, AN OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL HAVE UNLIMITED TIME. PLEASE KEEP ALL INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND CODE VIOLATION. AS ADVISED PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE TRANSLATION SERVICES FOR ANYONE NEEDING ASSISTANCE. IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE MADE SUCH ARRANGEMENTS AS ADVISED IN YOUR NOTICE OF HEARING. OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU SUBMITTED THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING. YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PROPERTY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER OF A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE CASE IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE FOLLOWING. ONE, PROVIDE THE REQUIREMENT, RE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS. DISCUSS YOUR DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK WITH A COST FOR EACH ITEM OUTLINED IN ORDER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CODE OFFICER. TWO, SUBMIT THE REQUIRED PROOF OF FINANCIAL ABILITY TO PAY FOR PAROLE'S WORK AND DISCUSS FEASIBILITY OF REPAIRS DEPENDENT ON AT HAND. AND THREE, REQUEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE WORK. ALL ABATEMENTS ORDERED BY THE BOARD SHALL BE ENFORCED. ALL WORK PROPOSED MUST BE DONE WITHIN CODE REGULATIONS WITH REGARD PERMITS PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF WORK. YOU MAY OBTAIN ALL PERMITS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED AT 1901 SOUTH ALAMO STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4. IF IN DOUBT AS TO THE PROCESS DURING THIS TIME, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. ANY OWNER OR LIEN HOLDER DISSATISFIED WITH AN ORDER OF THIS BOARD MAY FILE AN APPEAL IN CIVIL DISTRICT COURT WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE THAT THE ORDER IS MAILED. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDERS, PLEASE CONTACT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF MEMBER BY PHONE AT (210) 207-5422. PLEASE NOTE IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSONS PRESENT TO SOLICIT OR PEDAL SERVICES REGARDING ANY PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THIS BOARD DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING. AS PER CITY CODE SECTION 16 DASH 2 3 6. THANK YOU. AT [ Approval of Minutes  ] THIS TIME, HAVE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS REVIEWED THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST YES, SIR. SESSION, UH, CHAIRMAN WILL TAKE A MOTION, ROBERT COPY MOTION, MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, MINUTES AS WRITTEN. ROBERT BENKE A SECOND. THAT MOTION SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT MINUTES AS IS AND A SECOND COMMENTS, SIR? ROLL CALL. ROBERT TAPIA. AYE. PAUL HERNANDEZ. AYE. ROBERT BENKE. AYE. ROLLETTE SHREEN AYE. FRED AYE. MINUTES ARE APPROVED WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, SIR. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. [ Briefing and Possible Action on the following items  ] STAFF REPORT. GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JENNY RAMIREZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER. I DO HAVE SOME ITEMS TO READ INTO THE RECORD THIS MORNING. IF I MAY PROCEED. YOU CAN FIRST LOOK. UH, FIRST ITEM IS A HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED [00:05:01] AT ONE 20, I'M SORRY, ONE 12 HILLARY STREET IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO HAS VOLUNTARILY AGREED TO ALLOW THE CITY TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 15 NINE, SECTION FIVE. NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, AND THIS WAS SIGNED ON MAY THE 12TH OF 2025. IT DOES INCLUDE THE MAIN AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. NEXT ITEM WILL BE EMERGENCY DEMOLITIONS. READ INTO THE RECORD. FIRST PROPERTY STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1924 MONTEZUMA STREET WAS DEMOLISHED DUE TO A FIRE THAT DID OCCUR ON MAY THE SIXTH OF 2025. IT WAS DEMOLISHED ON MAY THE 20TH OF 25 20 25 PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75. NO FURTHER ACTIONS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. THIS IS FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. NEXT LOCATION. STRUCTURE LOCATED AT SIX 30. GILLETTE WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY. IT WAS DEMOLISHED ON MAY THE 16TH OF 2025 DUE TO A FIRE THAT OCCURRED ON MAY THE 13TH OF 2025. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75. NO FURTHER ACTION NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. THIS WAS ALSO THE MAIN STRUCTURE. THIS WAS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE IN THE LAST PROPERTY STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 8 0 7 BAILEY AVENUE WAS DEMOLISHED AS AN EMERGENCY ON MAY 22ND, 2025 DUE TO A FIRE WHICH OCCURRED ON MAY THE 16TH OF 2025. PURSUANT TO CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 75. NO FURTHER ACTIONS NEEDED BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. THIS WAS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE. THAT DOES COMPLETE MY REPORT THIS MORNING UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. STAFF HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I MEAN, UH, BOARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE FIRST CASE IS 9 1 0 NORTH NAVI DODGE STREET. GOOD MORNING BOARD. GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS CRYSTAL TOWN DANGEROUS PREMISE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 9 1 0 NORTH NAVI DODGE STREET WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME 9 1 0 NORTH NAVI DODGE STREET IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE THE BOARD. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 2 1 76 BLOCK ONE LOT NORTH IRR 44 FEET OF 28, LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. THE OWNER ON RECORD IS GWEN TEO JUAN WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 5 1 1 9 BANK RUNNER ALMANOR, TEXAS 7 8 1 1 2. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT PRESENT TODAY. DOES THE BOARD WISH TO CONTINUE? YES. YES. SAN ANTONIO POLICE OFFICER SCOTT IS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY. OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON MAY 28TH, 2024. THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION. THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 9 1 0 NORTH NAVIDA STREET WAS CONDUCTED ON MAY 1ST, 2024. THE ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON MAY 15TH, 2024, AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON JUNE 18TH, 2024. A MEETING WAS HELD ON AUGUST 8TH, 2024, BUT NO ONE ATTENDED THE MEETING TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES ON THE PROPERTY ON MAY 23RD, 2025. THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 9 1 0 NORTH NAVI DODGE STREET ON MAY 22ND, 2025. THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO JUANITA ENTENTE AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT HAS NOT BEEN RETURNED. ON MAY 5TH, 2025 AN ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANT WAS EXECUTED TO OBTAIN PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE STRUCTURE TO PRESENT TODAY, NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. NO PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN 1000 FEET OF CROCKETT ACADEMY. THERE HAVE BEEN THREE MULTIPLE OR THREE DIFFERENT FIRES. THERE WAS A FIRE ON FEBRUARY 17TH, 2023, A FIRE ON JULY 30TH, 2023, AND A FIRE ON JANUARY 23RD, 2024. [00:10:01] THAT'S NOT THE FRONT ELEVATION. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE. THE STRUCTURE IS A POST AND BEAM BEAM FOUNDATION WITH WOOD PLANK SIDING AND GABLE ROOFS CROSS GRABLE ROOF SYSTEM. THE ATTACHED FRONT PORCH IS SAGGING. THIS IS GONNA BE THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE. THE WOOD PLANK SIDING IS DETERIORATED AND THERE IS SMOKE DAMAGE ON THE WHERE THE WINDOWS ARE. THIS IS A BACK VIEW OF THAT LEFT ELEVATION. THERE IS SEVERE SMOKE DAMAGE. THE ROOF COVERING IS WORN AND THE OVERHANG DOES HAVE SIGNIFICANT SMOKE DAMAGE AND IS SAGGING. THIS IS GONNA BE THE RIGHT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE. THE BACK PORTION OF THAT RIGHT ELEVATION, THE ENTIRE WALL IS MISSING, EXPOSING THE WOODEN STUDS THAT ARE ALSO CHARRED AND HAVE SEVERE SMOKE DAMAGE. THIS IS ONE OF THE CEDAR POSTS OF THE FOUNDATION. IT IS DETERIORATED, SO THIS IS A CLOSER VIEW OF THAT RIGHT BACK ELEVATION. THE WOODEN STUDS ARE EXPOSED AND THEY DO HAVE SOME CHARRING AND SMOKE DAMAGE THAT'S LOOKING INTO THE STRUCTURE. AGAIN, THE WOODEN MEMBERS ALL HAVE CHARRING OR SEVERE SMOKE DAMAGE AND THERE'S DEBRIS THROUGHOUT THE STRUCTURE FROM THE CEILING. THE ROOF SYSTEM HAS MULTIPLE HOLES THROUGHOUT, ALONG WITH THE DECKING HAVING SEVERE CHARRING AND SMOKE DAMAGE. SO THIS IS THE KITCHEN AREA AGAIN, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE THERE, THE WOOD MEMBERS ARE CHARRED AND HAVE SEVERE SMOKE DAMAGE. THIS IS GOING DOWN THE HALLWAY AGAIN. THE THE WOOD MEMBERS ALL HAVE CHARRING OR SEVERE SMOKE DAMAGE. UM, THE STRUCTURE IS BEING UTILIZED BY THE UNHOUSED. UM, THERE WAS FRESH TOILET PAPER IN THE HALLWAY, SO THEY DO UTILIZE THAT AS THEIR RESTROOM AND THEN THEY SLEEP ON THE FRONT PORCH. SO THIS IS ANOTHER BEDROOM. AGAIN, SEVERE WATER DAMAGE TO THE SIDE, TO THE WOOD MEMBERS AND CHARRING AND SEVERE SMOKE DAMAGE. SO AGAIN, ANOTHER ROOM, I BELIEVE THE BATHROOM AREA, THE DECKING HAS CHARRING, THE RAFTERS AS WELL HAS CHARRING AND SMOKE DAMAGE. AND THIS IS GONNA BE THAT FRONT BEDROOM. THERE IS A HOLE IN THE ROOF SYSTEM AND THERE IS SEVERE CHARRING TO THE DECKING AND THERE'S SEVERE SMOKE DAMAGE. HERE IS A CLOSER VIEW OF THE CEILING WITH THE HOLE IN THE ROOF SYSTEM, AGAIN WITH CHARRING AND SMOKE DAMAGE. THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 9 1 0 NORTH NAVI DODGE STREET IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6 1 56 SUBSECTIONS 1 2 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18 FOR WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HERE AND AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR ON FITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 9 1 0 NORTH NAVI DODGE STREET. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. ROBERT TAPIA. AT WHAT POINT, HOW COME WE DIDN'T TAKE THIS TO THE EMERGENCY LEVEL EMERGENCY DEMO LEVEL? THE STRUCTURE IS NOT LEANING. IT IS STILL STRUCTURALLY SOUND. YES, THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE FIRES TO IT, BUT IT DOES NOT POSE A DANGER TO FALL ONTO ANOTHER PROPERTY. GOTCHA. AND SO YOUR REPORT STATES THAT, UH, THE CITY SECURED IT. IN WHAT WAY DO WE SECURE A HALF BURNT STRUCTURE, STRUCTURE AND KEEP PEOPLE OUT IF WE CAN? SO THAT SECTION WHERE IT IS CHARRED, IT IS NOT SAFE FOR OUR CONTRACTORS TO BOARD IT UP, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR DEMOLITION. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOT COME FORWARD TO MAKE ANY REPAIRS OR TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION. MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. OUR QUESTION, GO AHEAD. IT SAYS THAT THEY USE THE, THE BATHROOM FACILITY. SO IS THERE WATER TO THE PROPERTY? NO, THEY'RE JUST GOING INTO THE STRUCTURE AND, AND GOING TO THE BATHROOM. OH, THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU. WE HAVE OFFICER, UH, SCOTT [00:15:01] WILLY SCOTT, IF YOU CAN PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT YOU CONDUCT BUSINESS IN GOOD MORNING BOARD. UM, I'M OFFICER WILLIE SCOTT. UM, BEEN ON SAPD 15 YEARS. I'M PART OF CENTRAL SAFE, BEEN ON CENTRAL SAFE FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS, AND I WORK THE DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT FIVE AREA. UM, THIS IS MY FIRST BOARD, SO KIND OF BEAR WITH ME, BUT I'LL JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACK OF OFF OF WHAT MS. TOWNS DISCUSSED WITH NINE 10 NORTH. NOT BE DO, EXCUSE ME. UM, I HAVE A TWO YEAR CALL HISTORY. UM, OF ALL THE CALLS THAT HAVE CAME OUT AT THAT LOCATION, UM, THE CALLS PRETTY MUCH, UH, PERTAIN TO DISTURBANCES, BURGLARIES, FIGHTS, NARCOTIC LAWS, AND THE FIRES THAT WERE MENTIONED. UM, THE HOUSELESS INDIVIDUALS. UM, WE COME IN COMMON WITH MOST OF THE TIME WHEN WE GO TO THAT LOCATION AND THEY DO STAY INSIDE THE LOCATION. UM, SOMETIMES INSIDE AND SOMETIMES ON THE FRONT PORCH THERE IS A-C-T-A-A CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT FOR THE LOCATION. UM, SO NO ONE, NO ONE SHOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY. UM, LIKE I SAID, THE, THE FIRES, SHE ALREADY MENTIONED THE DATES. THERE'S, THERE'S THREE FIRES THAT HAVE HAPPENED THERE AND THE, UH, THE STRUCTURE IN THE BACK, UM, FROM THE PICTURES THAT YOU OBSERVED EARLIER, UM, THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO GET IN THROUGH THE, UH, THE RIGHT SIDE. RIGHT WHERE THE LOCATION. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. UM, COMMENT. THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. YES, SIR. AND SINCE THERE IS A NO TRESPASSING, WHEN YOU INTERCEPT PEOPLE THERE, ARE THEY THE SAME INDIVIDUALS YOU SEE ROUTINELY IN THE AREA? UM, MOST OF THE TIME THERE'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE. UH, THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OCCASIONS WHERE WE'VE NOTICED, UH, UM, SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT WE KNOW PERSONALLY, UM, AND WE KIND OF RELOCATE 'EM. WE KIND OF GIVE THE HOUSE ITS INDIVIDUALS BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. UM, WE, WE TREAT, TREAT 'EM WITH RESPECT, TELL 'EM TO MOVE ON. MOST OF THE TIME THEY DO MOVE ON. UM, EVERY NOW AND THEN WE MAY GET ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S KIND OF, UH, MOUTHY, UM, AND WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT SITUATION, UH, AS NEED BE. NEXT QUESTION, A THOUSAND FEET FROM A SCHOOL WHERE THIS LAYS, IS IT A PATTERN OR, OR A PATH OF WHERE THE KIDS TAKE TO SCHOOL TO AND FROM? OR IS IT A, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK EXACTLY WHERE THAT SCHOOL IS LOCATED AT. WHAT, DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE ADDRESS WHERE THAT SCHOOL IS LOCATED? DOES CODE OFFICER KNOW? OKAY. I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC ADDRESS. I JUST KNOW THAT IT IS ONE WITHIN 1000 FEET OF THAT PROPERTY, SO I'M SURE THERE'S CHILDREN THAT WALK BY THAT PROPERTY TO GET THERE. SO ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. THIS IS ROBERT TAPIA. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ON THE CASE, SIR? I'VE BEEN WORKING THAT PARTICULAR, UH, LOCATION FOR PROBABLY THE LAST THREE. DO THE, DO THE CODE OFFICERS, UH, FOLLOW YOUR RECOMMEND? I MEAN, CAN YOU RECOMMEND A FASTER PROCESS TO, UH, TO ALL THIS? UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THREE YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO WATCH THIS JUST HAPPEN. UH, AND IN THAT TIME SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN. I'M JUST WONDERING, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT AS FAR AS PUTTING IN HIGHER ON THE, UH, ON THE, TO BE TAKEN CARE OF LIST? I TRY TO GIVE MY, MY OPINION, UM, TO, TO THE CODE OFFICERS. UM, BUT I KNOW THOSE OPINIONS AND I, I KNOW THOSE PROCESSES HAVE TO GO THROUGH CERTAIN PROCEDURES. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. UM, WHEN WE DEAL WITH, UH, HOUSES, INDIVIDUALS BEING INSIDE AND SEEING, UH, SYRINGES AND ALL KIND OF OTHER STUFF, UM, SOMETIMES THEY, THEY TAKE THAT STUFF INTO CONSIDERATION. YEAH. AND, AND THAT'S OUR CONTENTION TOO, IS THE SAFETY, UH, AND KEEPING IT SAFE AND KEEPING IT CONTROLLED AND TAKING CARE OF THE, THE WHOLE SITUATION. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THREE YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO JUST WATCH IT HAPPEN. RIGHT. THAT'S [00:20:01] ALL. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . I GOT A FOLLOW UP. YES, SIR. IN, IN YOUR AREA, AND I'VE ANSWERED THE CO UH, OTHER OFFICERS, SAFE OFFICERS THIS, BUT HAVE YOU GUYS TALKED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT POLICE EAST IN, IN REGARDS TO PLACES LIKE THIS OR TROUBLE SPOTS TO HEADS UP EITHER YOUR WAY OR THEIR WAY ABOUT CERTAIN AREAS THAT THEY MAY HEAR FROM KIDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? HAVE YOU GUYS WORKED THE PROGRAM TO WHERE? UM, PERSONALLY, I, I HAVE NOT SPOKE TO, TO SCHOOL POLICE. UM, I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S ANOTHER AREA, UM, OFF OF ZZA MOORE AND UHNO STREET. THERE'S A UHNO STREET, THERE'S A, THERE'S A PASTOR, THERE'S A CHURCH. UM, HE DOES AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND IT MAY BE SAME ISSUES WHERE VACANT HOUSES, UM, UH, NEEDLES AND, AND HOUSES IN THAT AREA. AND HE'LL GO AROUND WITH THE, THE YOUNG KIDS AND OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THAT, THAT AREA WHERE HE'LL GO AROUND AND CLEAN UP AND PICK UP TRASH AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY START DOING, REACHING OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND, AND THE SCHOOL POLICE TO, TO SEE IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OR, OR EVEN IF THEY HEAR SOMETHING FROM A KID THAT THEY DON'T SEE YOU, BUT THEY CAN TELL THEM BECAUSE THEY, BUT THE MORE IS ON IT. RIGHT. LIKE, WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE PARTICIPATION FROM NEIGHBORHOODS NOW. RIGHT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE MORE IS ON IT WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY TO TRY TO KEEP THE CHILDREN CROSSING THAT, OR EVEN RESIDENTS I AGREE. CROSSING THAT AREA SAFE. I AGREE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. MM-HMM . PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES. CHAIR WILL REC, UH, CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. ROBERT TAPIA. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 1 0 NORTH VIDAL STREET, SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 0 7 IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56, SPECIFICALLY SUBSECTIONS 1 2 8 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. FURTHER MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER AND THAT, UH, EVERYTHING BE SECURED AND FREE OF TRASH AND DEBRIS. MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO DEMOLISH WITHIN 30 DAYS. UH, NINE 10 NORTH NAVI NAVITA STREET TO BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS. SECURE CLEANUP. UM, UH, FOR THE SECTION 6 1 5 6 SUBSECTIONS 1 2, 8 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. DO I HAVE A SECOND? THIS IS ROBERT BINKY. I SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL ROBERT TAPIA. AYE. PAUL HERNANDEZ. AYE. ROBERT VANKE. AYE. REGOS AYE. FRED ANDES AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO. MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. NEXT CASE. GOOD MORNING BOARD. GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS RYAN GARZA, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 1322 ROOSEVELT AVENUE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS CASE IS BEING HEARD BEFORE THE BOARD. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 29 29 [00:25:01] BLOCK ONE LOT FIVE AND SIX. THE OWNER ON RECORD IS KENJI DELMAR WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 28 22 REDLAND CREEK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 9. ALL NOTICES OF THE HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED. UH, MR. KENJI, UH, DELMAR AND HIS SON, YOGI DELMAR ARE PRESENT TODAY. DOES THE BOARD WISH TO CONTINUE? YES. I MAINTAINED CONTACT WITH THE OWNER, MR. KENJI DELMAR, THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AS CONFIRMED ON AUGUST 23RD, 2024. THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A HISTORIC DESTINATION. THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS. THE INITIAL INSPECTION REGARDING, EXCUSE ME, REGARDING 1322 ROOSEVELT AVENUE WAS CONDUCTED ON JULY 11TH, 2024. ALL NOTICES WAS MAILED. THE ORIGINAL NOTICES NOTICE WAS MAILED ON JULY 16TH, 2024, AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED, CLAIMED ON JULY 18TH, 2024. ON FEBRUARY 2ND, 2025, THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO MR. KENZIE DELMAR AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED. NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF. A LETTER OR CREDIT OR ENGINEERS REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. THERE ARE NO PERMITS ON FILE. UH, THE STRUCTURE IS LOCATED, UH, WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF BLESSED SACRAMENT ACADEMY CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER, LOCATED AT 1 1 3 5 MISSION ROAD. ALSO LINDA F MONTES CHILDCARE LOCATED AT 1 3 5 MONROE SET IN HOME CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER, LOCATED AT 1 1 5 MISSION AND THEN GREEN ELEMENTARY AT RIVERSIDE PARK AT 2 0 2 SCHOOL STREET. THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WERE TAKEN ON FEBRUARY 18TH, 2025, AND MAY 19TH, 2025. THE PICTURE PRESENTATION CONSISTS OF A SINGLE STORY, SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE THAT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL. THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1921 AND SINCE THEN AND SINCE THEN HAS DETERIORATED THE EXTERIOR WALLS. THE EXTERIOR WALL ELEVATION ARE LISTING AND THE ENTIRE WALKING SERVICES ARE WALKING HAZARD. THE STRUCTURE'S LOCATED AT A HIGH FOOT TRAFFIC AND VEHICLE TRAFFIC INTERSECTION OF ROOSEVELT AVENUE AND KIRKPATRICK AVENUE. UH, VAGRANTS HAVE BEEN GOING IN AND OUT OF THE STRUCTURE. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE. UH, THE STRUCTURE'S LISTING THE WOODEN SIDING OF THE, AND THE FASCIA BOARDS ARE ROTTED AND DETERIORATED. THE SKIRTING IS MISSING AND THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FOUNDATION HAS SUNK AND GRAFFITI'S ALSO PAINTED ON THE FRONT OF THIS STRUCTURE. EXCUSE ME. THE FRONT WOODEN PORCH DECKING IS DETERIORATED AND IS A WALKING HAZARD DUE TO PIECES OF THE WOODEN AND FLOOR DECKING MISSING AND SOME ARE NOT SECURED AND LOOSE. ALSO, THE WOODEN MEMBERS ARE, UM, MISSING WEATHER PROTECTION. AND THEN NEXT PHOTO I'M ON. I ALREADY READ THAT ONE. OKAY. UH, THIS PHOTO IS THE FRONT WOODEN STEPS THAT ARE DETERIORATED. BOARDS HAVE BECOME DETACHED AND MISSING AND ALSO POSES THE WALKING HAZARD. NEXT PHOTO. UH, THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE STRUCTURES WOODEN POST. THE POST ARE DETERIORATED AND ROTTEN. UH, THIS IS THE PHOTO OF THE LEFT ELEVATION. ACTUALLY, IT'S THE LEFT RIGHT ELEVATION THAT SHOWS THE STRUCTURE LISTING AND THE DETERIORATED WOODED SIDING THE WOOD AND SKIRTING IS MISSING AND THE SIDING IS LACKING WEATHER PROTECTION. NEXT PHOTO. UH, THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE ELEVATION. IT SHOWS THE DETERIORATION OF THE SIDING AND ALSO LACKING WEATHER, UH, PROTECTION. UH, THE, THIS IS THE CORNER LEFT, UH, BEHIND THE SIDINGS AND THE SKIRTING SHOWS WHERE THE VAGRANTS HAVE BEEN GOING IN AND OUTTA THE STRUCTURE. AND THIS IS A CLOSEUP OF THE HOLE THAT THEY USE TO CRAWL UNDER, AND THEN THEY GO UP THROUGH THE FLOORBOARDS. NEXT. OKAY. REAR ELEVATION SHOWS THE FASCIA BOARDS ARE MISSING. THE STAIRS ARE ROTTED AND PORTIONS OF THE SIDING AND SKIRTING HAS BEEN COVERED BY PLYWOOD. [00:30:04] THIS IS THE RIGHT SIDE ELEVATION OF THE, AND THE FOUNDATION HAS SUNK. THE SIDING IS DETERIORATED AND PIECES OF THE SIDING ARE MISSING. THIS IS THE FRONT LIVING ROOM. AS YOU ENTER THE STRUCTURE, THE DRYWALL HAS LARGE CRACKS DUE TO THE FOUNDATION DAMAGE. MOST OF THE WOOD FLOORING HAS WATER DAMAGE AND TRASH AND DEBRIS ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE FLOORING. THIS IS THE PHOTO OF THE SAME ROOM. UM, IT SHOWS THE WATER DAMAGE TO THE CEILING, WOODEN BOARDS. THIS IS A PHOTO OF ONE OF THE BEDROOMS THAT SHOWS DAMAGE TO THE DRYWALL. UH, THERE'S WINDOW GLAZING IS PRESENT. TRASH AND DEBRIS IS ALSO SCATTERED IN THIS ROOM. THIS PHOTO IS THE HALLWAY. THE CEILING AND DRYWALL HAVE CRACKS SHOWING THE SHIFTING OF THE FOUNDATION. TRASH AND DEBRIS ARE ALSO SCATTERED IN THIS LOCATION. THIS IS THE HALLWAY RESTROOM. THE DRYWALL AND CEILING HAVE DAMAGE. HAVE, UM, THE DRYWALL DAMAGE INDICATING THE SHIFTING OF THE FOUNDATION. UH, THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE REAR BEDROOM. THE WOODEN FLOORING HAS WATER DAMAGE. THE SHEET ROCK HAS CRACKS. TRASH AND DEBRIS ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE ROOM. THIS IS THE RIGHT WALL OF THE KITCHEN SHOWING DAMAGE TO THE SHEET ROCK. THIS IS THE LEFT WALL ELEVATION OF THE KITCHEN. THIS PHOTO SHOWS THE DETERIORATION OF THE TILES AND THE WOODEN MEMBERS. NEXT PHOTO. OKAY, THIS IS THE BACK ENTRANCE ROOM. WINDOW GLAZING IS PRESENT. THE WOODEN MEMBERS ARE EXPOSED AND ROTTED TRASH AND DEBRIS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THIS ROOM. THIS IS ALSO THE SAME ROOM THAT RAG SHE USED TO TUNNEL UNDERNEATH AND COME UP THROUGH THE FLOORBOARD. AND THIS IS A CLOSEUP OF THE TUNNEL THAT THEY USE THROUGH THE FLOORBOARD, HOW THEY GET IN AND OUT OF THE STRUCTURE. TO RECAP THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1322 ROOSEVELT AVENUE IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 56, SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18, IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREIN AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE. PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFIT FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY, OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 1322 ROOSEVELT. THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. ROBERT TAPIA, IS THAT, UH, GRAFFITI, UH, GANG RELATED? I DO WE KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, SIR. HAVE WE TRIED TO PLUG UP THOSE HOLES? UH, THEY DID. THE OWNER DID, UH, PUT SOME PLYWOOD, BUT, UH, APPARENTLY, UH, GRAFFITI HASN'T, NOT THAT I KNOW OF. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ARE THE UTILITIES WATER AND ELECTRICITY AND GAS ACTIVE? THE WATER IS, I DON'T SEE, NOT ACTIVE. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE NOTES. I JUST, ASSUMING IT'S, IT'S ALL RIGHT. WE'LL HANDLE IT IF IT'S, UM, ANOTHER THING YOU HAVE IN YOUR NOTES IS THIS WAS TURNED OVER TO THE VACANT HOUSE PROGRAM OR NO? YES, IT WAS, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD NOTHING YET. AND THE OWNER'S HERE TO PRESENT HIS DOCUMENTATION FOR A DEMOLITION AS WELL. AND HE HAD A WHOLE HARMLESS YES, SIR. AND THAT EXPIRED, OR, UM, HE GOT A CALL FROM HIS SON AND THEY DISCUSSED IT AND, UH, HIS SON AND OWNER DECIDED TO HANDLE IT PRIVATELY, WHICH THEY HAVEN'T. WHICH THEY HAVEN'T. BUT TODAY THEY BROUGHT DOCUMENTATION OF THEM. PLANNING TO, OKAY. MM-HMM . AND WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE, IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE PROPERTY OR SOMETIMES THERE'S VAGRANTS, THEY SLEEP ON THE FRONT PATIO PORCH. UH, BUT [00:35:01] I NEVER SEEN THEM INSIDE THE STRUCTURE. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN GOING IN THERE. YOU JUST HAVEN'T SEEN THEM IN THERE OR SEEN 'EM COME OUT? I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY SEEN THEM RIGHT IN THERE. BUT ACCORDING TO SAPD, THEY, THEY GO IN AND OUT THROUGH THAT BACK TUNNEL AREA. NOW IT'S A THOUSAND FEET FROM A SCHOOL? UH, YES SIR. ACTUALLY SEVERAL SCHOOLS IN DAYCARES. IS THIS A PATHWAY TO THE SCHOOL OR THAT I'M NOT SURE. UM, I DO KNOW THAT THE VIA BUS STOP IS LOCATED RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE AND THERE IS A SCHOOL LIKE DOWN THE STREET FROM THERE, LIKE WITHIN SHORT WALKING DISTANCE, MAYBE LIKE TWO MINUTES. SO I DO SEE KIDS ALL THE TIME WALKING BY. SO I ASSUME THAT GONNA SCHOOL, THAT'S THE TRAFFIC AREA FOR KIDS AND MM-HMM . ANYTHING ELSE THAT KEEPS GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA? YEAH, JUST A BUNCH OF VAGRANTS THAT HANG OUT THERE. YEAH. AND ACROSS THE STREET. SO WHEN YOU GOT THIS, WAS IT FROM NEIGHBORS THAT COMPLAINED ABOUT IT OR WAS THIS A PRO ACTIVE? IT WAS A CITY COUNCIL COMPLAINT. CITY COUNCIL? MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. KUMAR KENJI, IF YOU CAN PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND THE COUNCIL DISTRICT YOU RESIDE IN. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS KENJI DLIP KUMAR. SAY IT AGAIN. DLIP KUMAR KENJI. UM, I'M HERE. MY, MY SON IS GOING TO, EXCUSE ME, SIR, YOUR ADDRESS? MY ADDRESS IS 28 22 REDLAND CREEK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 9. OKAY. MY SON IS GONNA REPRESENT ME IN SITTING RIGHT THERE, SO I, I'M BRINGING FORWARD, HE CAN TALK TO YOU GUYS. OKAY, THANKS. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS YOGESH KENJI, SON OF, UH, KUMAR ANGIE. I LIVE NOW IN CALIFORNIA, BUT I GREW UP IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, WE HAVE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL CONTRACTORS AND HAVE NARROWED DOWN ONE CONTRACTOR TO, UH, DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY. HE TRIED PULLING THE PERMIT TO DO THE DEMOLITION, BUT IT WAS AFTER THE HEARING WAS SET. SO, UH, IN HIS WORDS, THERE'S A BLOCK ON THE PERMIT TO ACHIEVE TO, TO GET THE PERMIT. SO, UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UM, WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT PERMIT AND WE CAN COMMENCE WITH THE DEMOLITION. WE'VE, UM, I THINK SENT SOME PAPERWORK IN. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT MADE IT IN. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE ALONG WITH, UM, A CHECK THAT WAS ISSUED TO HIM. SO [00:40:30] GO AHEAD, YOU CAN, UH, THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE, SIR? YEAH. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. FLOOR'S OPEN. ROBERT BINKY, UH, WHEN YOU SAID YOU WERE HAVING TROUBLE OBTAINING THE PERMIT WITH THE CITY, UM, DID YOU HAVE ANY I DO CONSTRUCTION AS WELL. I'VE HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH HIM RECENTLY AND JUST, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOWER PROCESS. DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY EXPLANATION FOR WHAT WAS KIND OF GOING ON WITH THAT AT ALL, OR ANYTHING TO THAT NATURE? UH, THEY JUST SAID THERE WAS A BLOCK ON ISSUING THE PERMIT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE HEARING, SO I UNDERSTAND. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YEAH. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR. LEGAL HAS A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. UH, LEGAL. SORRY, SIR. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR ME AGAIN? I APOLOGIZE. MY NAME IS YO KENJI. OKAY. MR. KENJI, UM, IS THIS PROPERTY, UH, ARE YOU AWARE OR DO YOU KNOW IF THIS PROPERTY HAS, HAS DECONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS INVOLVED? I DO NOT. YOU DON'T KNOW? NO. DO YOU KNOW IF YOUR, UH, UH, THE PERSON THAT YOU WISH TO HIRE FOR DEMOLITION, UM, IS QUALIFIED TO DO DECONSTRUCTION? UH, YES. WE HAVE ASKED HIM AND HE'S DONE SEVERAL DEMOLITION, UH, AND DECONSTRUCTION IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. OKAY. AND HE'S LICENSED AND REGISTERED WITH THE CITY TO DO DECONSTRUCTION? UH, YES, SIR. OKAY. AND THEN LASTLY, ARE, ARE, ARE YOU, UM, IT, IT IS, IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND YOUR FATHER'S UNDERSTANDING, IF YOU KNOW WHETHER THIS PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE DECONSTRUCTED? UH, IT'S NOT OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DECONSTRUCTED. SO AS, AS YOU AND YOUR FATHER BELIEVE AS OF TODAY THAT THIS PROPERTY JUST NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED AND NOT DECONSTRUCTED, IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE FAIR TO SAY? YES, SIR. UM, AND, OKAY. THANK YOU. LET ME, UH, HAVE, UH, THE COCO OFFICER BACK UP FOR A SECOND. SURE. NOW THAT THE DOOR'S BEEN OPEN FOR DECONSTRUCTION, AND IT'S NOTED IN HERE THAT THESE WERE DECONSTRUCTION, UH, ESTIMATES. YOU GAVE BALLPARK ESTIMATES 22 TO 24,000 FOR DECONSTRUCTION. NO DECONSTRUCTION. IT SAYS DECONSTRUCTION IN HERE. SO WHAT IS THE ACTUAL FOR THIS? IS IT GOING TO BE TOTALLY DEMOLISHED OR IS IT A AREA OF DECONSTRUCTION? AREA OF DECONSTRUCTION. SO WITH THAT, THEY WERE NOTIFIED ABOUT THAT AND YET THEY SIGNED A WHOLE HARMLESS FOR DECONSTRUCTION OR DEMOLITION. THE HOLD HARMLESS WAS FOR THE, UM, REGULAR DEMOLITION. AND THEN I FOUND OUT THAT IT HAD TO BE DECONSTRUCTION. SO THEY, UM, OFFICER OF THE STORY PRESERVATION SENT ME A NOTIFICATION ON IT THAT IT HAS TO BE DECONSTRUCTED 'CAUSE OF THE NEW ORDINANCE. RIGHT. BUT WERE THEY MADE AWARE OF THIS AFTER THEY SIGNED THE HOLD HARMLESS, OR, I KNOW YOU DID BEFORE, 'CAUSE IT SAYS IN YOUR NOTES YOU DID BEFORE THEY, THEY CANCELED THE HOLD HARMLESS TO DO THEIR OWN DEMO. SO DEMO MM-HMM . SO THAT'S A DIFFERENCE. DEMO AND DECONSTRUCTION. CORRECT. RIGHT. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. MM-HMM . DECONSTRUCTED, ROBERT BINKY, UH, YOU DECONSTRUCTED, AND THEN AFTER DECONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE, THEN YOU DO THE DEMO. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. YEAH. THEY'LL GO IN AND REMOVE WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, ALL THE USEFUL MATERIAL, ALL USEFUL MATERIAL AFTER IT'S BEEN REMOVED, THEN AFTER THAT AND THE DEMO CREW COMES IN AND COMES IT OUT. RIGHT. WELL, I NOTICED IN THE NOTES OF THE CONTRACTOR IT SAYS THEY'RE GONNA HOLD ALL OF IT TO THE DUMP, DECONSTRUCTION IS TO SALVAGE. IF NOT, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, COUNSEL DECONSTRUCTION IS TO SALVAGE WHERE DEMOLITION IS TO HAUL [00:45:01] IT ALL OFF WITHOUT SALVAGING ANYTHING. YOU, YOU, YOU ARE CORRECT, UM, MR. CHAIR, THAT, THAT IT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE. SO I THINK THERE'S A CONFUSION OF THEY'RE UNDER THE IMPRESSION OF DEMOLITION VERSUS DECONSTRUCTION. WOULD THAT SOUND FAIR TO SAY? MM-HMM . UM, SO IF YOU COULD, UH, NOW CAN I HAVE THE OWNER SON AT THE PODIUM? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW, YOUR CONTRACT THAT YOU SIGNED YEP. YOU GUYS DISCUSSED DEMOLITION, CORRECT? YES, SIR. NOT DECONSTRUCTION. THAT'S CORRECT. NOW, YOUR CONTRACT IS UNDER THE IMPRESSION OF DEMOLITION, NOT DECONSTRUCTION. YES, SIR. WERE YOU TOLD 11 7 24 THAT THIS WAS DECONSTRUCTION? UH, LET ME REFER TO THE NOTES HERE. AND THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE FOR YOUR DAD BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY, I THINK HE WAS TALKING TO YOUR DAD AT THE TIME. YEAH, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, UM, THE HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT, WHICH TALKS ABOUT DEMOLITION, SIR, NOT DECONSTRUCTION THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT I JUST ASKED BECAUSE UP HERE IN HIS NOTES IT SAYS DECONSTRUCTION, YOU SIGNED THE HOLD HARMLESS FOR DEMOLITION. YEAH. AND YOUR CATEGORY IS ACTUALLY A DECONSTRUCTION FIRST. FIRST, BUT THE DE THE CONTRACTOR IS A DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT STATED HE WAS, UH, STAFF. IS THERE A SPECIFIC, OTHER THAN LICENSED DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR, IS THERE A SPECIFIC PIECE THAT SAYS DECONSTRUCT OR NO? HOW DOES THAT WORK? THIS IS EMIN THOMAS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UM, TO BE A DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR, YOU NEED TO HAVE A LICENSE WITH THE CITY. NOW, TO BE ELIGIBLE TO DO DECONSTRUCTION, YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH A CLASS WITH OHP, OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND BE CERTIFIED BY THEM TO DO IT. THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPANIES IN TOWN THAT THEY CAN DO DECONSTRUCTION. SO FOR US, THE LICENSE JUST SAID DEMO. IT WAS A DEMO LICENSE. HOW DO WE KNOW AS A BOARD MEMBERS THAT THAT IS A DECONSTRUCTIVE CONTRACTOR? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT GIVES US THAT OTHER THAN A, A PIECE OF PAPER THAT HE HOLDS BUT DOESN'T PUT IN AS CREDENTIALS? UH, I SEE YOUR POINT. WE, WE CAN CONFIRM WITH OHP TO SEE IF THIS CONTRACTOR SPECIFICALLY, SPECIFICALLY HAS THE DECONSTRUCTION CERTIFICATION. WE CAN CHECK ON THAT, BUT I BELIEVE, UH, I'LL TURN IT TO LEGAL, BUT IN REALITY, I MEAN, AS A BOARD, YOU MAKE THE DECISION AND THEN WHEN THEY OBTAIN A DEMO PERMIT AT THAT TIME, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS ANYWAYS. AND EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE CONFIRMED AT THE TIME. THIS MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LEGAL. JUST JUST TO MAKE SURE THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS, IF THIS BOARD DETERMINES THAT THIS PROPERTY, UM, UH, REQUIRES, UH, DECONSTRUCTION, THE ORDER WILL REFLECT IT. IF THE BOARD JUST DETERMINES THAT THIS PROPERTY NEEDS JUST TO BE DEMOLISHED, YOUR ORDER WILL REFLECT IT. SO, UH, THE LANGUAGE WILL BE SPECIFIC, UM, IF IT FALLS UNDER, UH, THE, THE, THE DECONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING, SIR? NO, SIR. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANY OTHER INFORMATION CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. THANK YOU, SIR. THIS IS ROBERT BINKY. UM, I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DECONSTRUCT AND DEMO THE PROPERTY. UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW I'M GONNA READ THAT INTO A MOTION THERE, BUT, UM, LEMME SEE IF WE CAN'T WORK THAT OUT HERE. WELL, AND LEGAL MAY HAVE TO, YOU'RE ORDERING A, INSTEAD [00:50:01] OF SAYING DEMOLITION, YOU ORDER THE DESTRUCTION AND THEN WELL, THE REST WILL COME AFTER THAT. RIGHT. SO ONCE YOU ORDER THE DESTRUCTION, THE DEMO WILL AUTOMATICALLY GO AFTER THE DESTRUCTION. 'CAUSE YOU'RE TAKING IT ALL DOWN ANYWAY. AND MR. CHAIR, AND JUST TO GIVE, WHAT I WILL DO IS I, I WILL GIVE YOU A, JUST A QUICK LITTLE BLURB THAT YOU CAN ADD TO YOUR STATEMENT. AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, UH, THAT THE PROPERTY, FINDING THAT THE PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO DECON, THE DECONSTRUCTION CODE, THEN THE REST WILL FALL INTO PLACE WITH, WITH, UH, DEMOLITION. 'CAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED AS WELL. ONCE THEY DECONSTRUCT, WHEN THEY DECONSTRUCT IT, IT'LL BE DETERMINED WHAT'S SALVAGEABLE AND THEN THE REST WILL GO TO THE JUST WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE AN ORDER TO DECONSTRUCT. RIGHT. YOU JUST, IF YOU WANT TO DO DEMOLITION BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO THE DEMOLITION CODE. GREAT TAKE. WE HAD, DO WE HAVE THE DEMOLITION CODE? YOU DON'T NEED TO, WE DON'T NEED TO ADD THE CODE IN THERE JUST TO, I, I, I GOT EVERYTHING. JUST OKAY. IF YOU BELIEVE IT'S, IF YOU BELIEVE BASED ON THE INFORMATION BROUGHT TO YOU THAT IT IS SUBJECT TO THE DECONSTRUCTION CODE, WE BELIEVE IT'S SUBJECT TO THE DECONSTRUCTION CODE. THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TO, TO, TO RECITE IN THERE AND I'LL TAKE CARE OF THE REST. YOU'RE GOOD. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. DISCUSSION? YEAH, I, I GOT YOU WANNA OPEN FOR DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION? YEAH, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE OR BEFORE A MOTION. BASED ON WHAT THE OWNERS HAVE PROVIDED, IT WOULD BE MY OPINION THAT, UM, WE SHOULD GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DECONSTRUCT AND DEMOLISH THE HOME ON THEIR OWN WITHIN 30 DAYS, UM, BASED ON THEIR EVIDENCE AND WHAT THEY'VE PROVIDED TO US TODAY. SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING AND LEANING TOWARDS. AND I JUST WANTED TO CONFER WITH MY BOARD MEMBERS HERE. WELL, I THINK THE STAFF AGREED TO THIS WHEN THEY DID A WHOLE HARMLESS AND THE WHOLE HARMLESS WAS PULLED OUT OF, 'CAUSE THE OWNER WANTED TO GO ON THEIR OWN, WHICH IS WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW. AND THEY'VE PROVIDED US WITH PROOF OF FUNDS AND CONTRACTS AND SUCH NATURE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROCEED WITH THAT AS OPPOSED TO, UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO THEN DEMOLISHING AND DECONSTRUCTING IT, IN MY OPINION. I AGREE. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO. WELL, WHEN YOU MAKE THE MOTION, JUST MAKE THE MOTION. JUST READ IT OUT NORMALLY. AND INSTEAD OF DEMOLISH, JUST PUT UNDER THE DECONSTRUCTION, UNDER THE DECONSTRUCTION SECTION OF THE CODE, IT'S SUBJECT TO DECONSTRUCTION RIGHT. THEN, THEN AUGUST. YEAH. YOU'RE JUST, THE ONLY THING YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE NOT DEMOING IT, YOU'RE JUST ADDING THAT PHRASE AND RIGHT. IT'S JUST A REGULAR READ. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? GO FOR THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME'S ROBERT BINKY. I MOVED AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 3 2 2. ROOSEVELT AVENUE IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE OWNERS THE OPPORTUNITY SUBJECT TO DECONSTRUCTION TO COMPLETE THEIR CONTRACT. UM, PER CITY CODE ARTICLE SIX OR CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 15 6, SPECIFICALLY SECTION SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS SUBJECT TO DECONSTRUCTION TAKE CARE OF THIS IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR DECONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AT 1 3 2 2 ROOSEVELT AVENUE. UH, SECTIONS UNDER ARTICLE 6 1 5 6 SUBSECTIONS 1 12 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, 18. AND THE ORDER IS DECONSTRUCT WITHIN 30 DAYS. BY, BY, WELL YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT BY DECONSTRUCT WITHIN 30 DAYS. YES, SIR. DO I HAVE A SECOND? TRUCKING GOES SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL. MR. LEGAL, THIS IS LEGAL. UH, IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, IF YOU GUYS ARE DETERMINING THAT THE PROPERTY, UH, NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED, THEN I WOULD URGE YOU TO, I'M NOT ASK, I'M GONNA URGE YOU TO USE THE WORD DEMOLITION. UM, THE DECONSTRUCTION, YOU ALREADY SAID IT WAS SUBJECT TO THE DECONSTRUCTION CODE. SO, UM, AGAIN, THE, THE ORDER SHOULD BE FOR IT TO BE DEMOLISHED IF THIS BOARD BELIEVES [00:55:01] DEMOLITION IS SUITABLE. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA ADD DEMO IN THERE. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. YES SIR. THAT'S, YES. SO WE'LL JUST READ IT WITH THE WORD DEMOLITIONS ARE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS, BUT IT WILL FALL UNDER THE DECONSTRUCTION CODE SUBJECT SUBJECT TO DECONSTRUCTION CODE. AND THEN THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO ADD TO IT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. DOES IT SECOND? SECOND IT? YES. SECOND IT. NO MORE DISCUSSION. ANY OTHER STAFF ISSUES OR, OR OPINION? ROLL CALL ROBERT TAPIA. AYE. FA HERNANDEZ AYE. ROBERT BENKE AYE. ROLLETTE SHREEN GOES. AYE. FRED ANDES AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF 5 2 0. MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO YOU CAN GET WITH YOUR, UH, CODE OFFICER, SIR. AND HE'LL, HE'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THE PROCESS IS. NEXT CASE. GOOD MORNING BOARD FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS JAIME HASSEL, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THE STRUCTURES BEING PRESENTED TODAY ARE LOCATED AT 5 5 2 2 VALLON DRIVE, ALSO KNOWN AS 5 6 4 7 OLD PUR SAW ROAD WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS PROPERTY IS BEING HEARD BEFORE THIS BOARD. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 1 56 24 BLOCK EIGHT, LOT 1 8 6 EX CS WTRI 31.47 FEET LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR. THE OWNER ON RECORD IS SALAZAR, RENEE AND SANDRA WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 8 3 1 LAS PERTA, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 5. ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED. UH, THE OWNER ON RECORD, MR. SALAZAR IS PRESENT. DOES THE BOARD WISH TO PROCEED? YES. ON JANUARY 22ND, 2025, CONTACT WAS MADE WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, MR. ES ALAZAR. THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON FEBRUARY 24TH, 2025 THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION. UH, THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS. THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 5 5 2 2 VALLON DRIVE, ALSO KNOWN AS 5 6 4 7 OLD PIERCE SAW ROAD WAS CONDUCTED ON JANUARY 17TH, 2025. THE ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON JANUARY 28TH, 2025, AND IT WAS RE RETURNED, DELIVERED ON JANUARY 30TH, 2025. ON JANUARY 24TH, 2025, A PRE-BOARD CONFERENCE WAS HELD AT THE PROPERTY WITH THE OWNER ON JANUARY 31ST, 2025. THE INTENT TO REVOKE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY ON FEBRUARY 6TH, 2025. THE NOTICE OF THE REVOCATION OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WAS POSTED ON THE PROPERTY ON MAY 22ND, 2025. THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO THE OWNER AND ON MAY 23RD, 2025 THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT THE PROPERTY AS OF JUNE 5TH, 2025. NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEERS REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED, BUT THERE IS AN ACTIVE DEMOLITION PERMIT ON FILE FOR THIS PROPERTY. UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF IDEA BRACKENRIDGE ELEMENTARY, AND IT IS JUST OUTSIDE, UH, THAT THOUSAND FEET OF ALLEN B SHEPHERD MIDDLE SCHOOL. THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED, PROVIDED FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WERE TAKEN ON MAY 23RD, 2025. UH, THIS IS A PLOT OF HOW THE STRUCTURES ARE LOCATED. UH, THE STRUCTURES THAT WE ARE BEING THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED ARE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE REAR AND BUILDING, UH, NUMBER TWO IN THE FRONT. UH, THIS IS A FRONT ELEVATION PHOTO OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MIDDLE SECTION OF, OF THE ROOF HAS ALREADY PARTIALLY COLLAPSED. UH, THERE IS A LOT OF DETERIORATION AND WEAR TO THESE, UH, STRUCTURAL MEMBERS. UH, THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT AREA THAT HAS PARTIALLY COLLAPSED. UH, THIS PROPERTY IS COMPLETELY FENCED OFF, SO THERE IS NO ACCESS [01:00:01] ONTO THIS PROPERTY. UM, AND IT IS MONITORED BY THE OWNER. UM, THIS IS FURTHER TO THE LEFT OF THAT FRONT ELEVATION HERE, THAT THIS AREA IS UNSECURED. UH, BUT AGAIN, THE FENCE IS, UM, SECURED AT THE OWNER DOES MONITOR THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WALLS ARE DAMAGED. UH, SOME OF THE SIDING IS FALLING OFF AND THERE IS, UH, WEATHER DAMAGE TO THIS WOOD MEMBERS THAT ARE EXPOSED. THIS IS AN INTERIOR LOOK. FROM THAT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ENTIRE REAR WALL IS, UH, HAS COLLAPSED AND IS MISSING. UH, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CEILING JOISTS ARE, UH, COLLAPSING. AND ALSO, UM, WHERE THERE IS, UH, STRESS TO THE REMAINING WOOD MEMBERS. UH, THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS THE LEFT ELEVATION HERE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WALLS ARE, THERE IS SEPARATION. THERE IS LEANING OFF TO TOWARDS THE RIGHT OF THIS PHOTO. UH, THIS IS THE LOOK OF THE INTERIOR. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS NATURAL LIGHT THAT IS ENTERING FROM HOLES IN THE ROOF. THERE IS WATER DAMAGE TO THE DRYWALL ON THE ROOF, AND THERE IS, UH, SOME BOWING IN THE ROOF MEMBERS. UH, THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS, UH, THE LEFT SIDE WHERE THAT PARTIAL COLLAPSE HAS OCCURRED. UH, YOU CAN SEE MORE NATURAL LIGHT THAT IS ENTERING FROM THE REAR AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS SOME DEBRIS THE OWNER HAS ACTUALLY CLEANED UP. THIS WASN'T ACTIVE, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, PROPERTY. AND THE OWNER HAS CLEANED UP THE INTERIOR. AND WHAT'S LEFT IS JUST, UH, THE DEBRIS. THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION OF THAT STRUCTURE. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS SOME PLYWOOD THAT IS BEING USED AS SIDING. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SIDING IS LACKING WEATHER PROTECTION. UH, THE OVERHANGING IS DAMAGED AND BROUGHT IN. THERE IS SHINGLES THAT ARE SEPARATING. THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE REAR ELEVATION OF BUILDING NUMBER TWO. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ROOF IN THE REAR HAS COLLAPSED AS WELL. THERE IS SOME BOWING SAGGING OF THE ROOF LINE AND THAT THE WOOD MEMBERS ARE DAMAGED AND WATER, UM, WEATHER DAMAGED AND THAT THERE ARE HOLES PRESENT IN THE WALLS. AND THE SIDING IS DETACHING. UH, THIS IS A CLOSEUP OF THAT AREA. THIS IS WHERE THE, UH, MAJORITY OF THE SIDING HAS, UH, FALLEN OFF. AND YOU CAN SEE THE MORE OF THE DETERIORATION AND DAMAGE TO THE INTERIOR WOOD MEMBERS. AND THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE INSIDE OF THAT AR REAR AREA. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE HOLES ARE PRESENT IN THE ROOF. THE DECKING IS MISSING. THE CEILING JOISTS ARE ROTTED AND COLLAPSING, AND THERE IS A LOT OF DEBRIS IN THE BACK. AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, LEAVES AND OTHER, UM, DEBRIS IN THE INTERIOR FROM WHERE THE ELEMENTS ARE ENTERING. THIS IS THE REAR OF THAT LEFT SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WALL, UM, IS MISSING. UH, THIS PORTION SHOWS THAT IT IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE REMAINING, UM, BUILDING THAT'S LEFT, UH, WHICH WILL BE THE, UH, STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE NOW PRESENTING. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS WOOD MEMBERS EXPOSED. THERE'S DAMAGE TO THE WOOD MEMBERS AND A LOT OF THE DEBRIS THAT'S ON THE GROUND IS FROM THE REAR SIDING. AND THIS PHOTO JUST SHOWS THAT THE FOUNDATION DOES EXTENDS TOWARDS THAT STRUCTURE, BUT IT IS NOT, UH, CONNECTED TO IT. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THAT, UH, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. IN THE REAR, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A SAG TO THE ROOF LINE. THE PORCH IS MISSING SUPPORT POSTS. UH, AND THERE IS, UH, DEBRIS IN THE UNDER THE PORCH AND THERE IS NO, UH, DOOR SECURING IT. UM, BUT IT IS A FENCED IN AREA AND THERE IS DAMAGE AS WELL TO THE SIDING. THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION OF THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE, UH, THE POST IN THE PORCH IS MISSING. UH, IT IS LACKING WEATHER PROTECTION. THERE ARE HOLES PRESENT IN THE WALL AND THAT THE WINDOWS ARE NOT FULLY SECURED. THIS HERE IS THE REAR PHOTO OF THE STRUCTURE, UH, AND THE RIGHT ELEVATION ON THE REAR. THERE IS HOLES PRESENT WHERE THE SIDING IS MISSING. THE ROOF DOES HAVE HOLES. THE, UH, ASPHALT SHINGLES ARE DETACHING FROM THE DECKING AND THE STRUCTURE IS RESTING ON GRADE ON THIS SIDE, ON THIS SIDE. AND THIS IS THE LEFT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE. UM, THERE'S ALSO MORE EXPOSED, UH, WOOD, UM, PLY WOOD SIDING. UH, THERE ARE HOLES PRESENT WHERE IT'S DETACHING FROM THE FRAMING AND IT'S JUST, UM, LACKING WEATHER PROTECTION. THIS PHOTO IS OF THE INTERIOR OF THAT STRUCTURE. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE POSTS ARE LEANING. THE WOOD MEMBERS ARE STARTING TO BOW IN THE ROOF LINE AND THERE IS THAT EXPOSED, UH, HOLE IN THE REAR WALL ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PHOTO. HERE'S ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT BRIGHT SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS, UM, EXPOSED WOOD MEMBERS THAT ARE WEATHER DAMAGED AND THERE IS THAT HOLE PRESENT IN THE REAR. [01:05:01] UH, TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 5 5 2 2 GAVILAN DRIVE, ALSO KNOWN AS 5 6 4 2 OLD PEARSALL ROAD, ARE IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6 1 5 6. SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18 FOR BUILDING NUMBER TWO AND SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18 FOR THE ACCESSORY IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEARING AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD OF PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. PROVIDED THAT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO HEALTH, PROPERTY, OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRE, UH, PRESENTATION OF 5 5 2 2 GAVILAN DRIVE, ALSO KNOWN AS 5 6 4 2 OLD PIERCE ROAD BOARD. HAVE QUESTIONS, ROBERT? TOP. SO IS IT, IS IT ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL? YES, SIR. IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL. AND YOUR REPORT, WHAT TYPE OF, UH, ENTITY IS IT? IT WAS A TIRE REPAIR SHOP. TIRE REPAIR. YEAH. I SAW IN YOUR, UM, OKAY. ANYBODY OTHER, LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING HERE. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE FIRST PHOTO YOU GUYS SHOWED OF THE PROPERTY LAYOUT OF THE PLOT PLAN? YEAH, I CAUGHT SOMETHING WHEN YOU WERE TALKING IN HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, YOU HAVE MAIN STRUCTURE. IT'S X THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, CORRECT? NO, SIR. OKAY. BUT YOU HAVE ON THE STRUCTURE, UH, CONDITION SHEET. MM-HMM . YOU HAVE MAIN STRUCTURE BUILDING ONE. I DON'T SEE A BUILDING ONE ON HERE. I SEE A BUILDING TWO AND ANY ACCESSORY. BUT WHEN YOU ARE CODING OFF THE NUMBERS, YOU SAID BUILDING TWO AND IT'S NOT MARKED ON ANY OF THE INFORMATION OF A BUILDING TWO. IT WAS REFERRED TO, UH, WHEN WE FIRST DID THE INITIAL INSPECTION, WE, WE BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, BUILDING TWO AND THE MAIN STRUCTURE WERE ACTUALLY ONE UNTIL WE WENT AND DID A CLOSER INSPECTION. AND WE SAW THAT THE FOUNDATION WASN'T, UM, WASN'T CONNECTED. SO THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE STRUCTURES, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD SOME WALL CONNECTED, THE FOUNDATION WASN'T? YEAH, EXACTLY. YES SIR. OKAY. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, IT'S MISLEADING FOR WHAT YOU JUST SAID BECAUSE WHEN YOU READ OUT THE, THE NUMBERS MM-HMM . THE, THE VIOLATIONS, YOU SAID BUILDING TWO? YES, SIR. AND ON ALL THE DOCUMENTS YOU HAVE HERE IS MAIN STRUCTURE BUILDING ONE AND THERE'S NO BUILDING ONE ON THERE. SO THAT COULD BE A CLERICAL. SO NOW THAT YOU CORRECTED OR EXPLAINED THAT IT JUST WASN'T CORRECTED IN YOUR NOTES, CORRECT? YES SIR. IT'S A CLERICAL ERROR. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS ROBERT TAPI. SO INSTEAD OF MAIN, IT SHOULD BE READ, UH, BUILDING TWO. YES SIR. BUILDING TWO IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE BRINGING, RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S IN CASE SOMEBODY TRIES SOMETHING LEGAL THERE, WE'VE GOT IT COVERED. , UM, UTILITIES ARE ALL OFF ON ALL THESE BUILDINGS, CORRECT? YES, SIR. ALL UTIL THE OWNER HAS, UH, DISCONNECTED ALL UTILITIES. AGAIN, THE OWNER HAS ALREADY, UM, UH, OBTAINED A DEMOLITION PERMIT. UM, IT'S JUST, HE CAN SPEAK MORE ON WHY THAT HASN'T GONE THROUGH, BUT THERE IS AN ACTIVE DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THIS PROPERTY. GOOD. YEAH. SO WHEN YOU CAME ACROSS THIS, HOW DID YOU COME ACROSS IT? PROACTIVE OR, UH, THIS WAS ACTUALLY A CASE FOR A DP OFFICER THAT IS NOT PRESENT. SO, UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW SHE RECEIVED THE, THE INITIAL CASE, BUT I DO BELIEVE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REPORTED TO HER, UM, PROACTIVELY. AND IT, IS IT IN THIS AREA OF SCHOOL OR NO? YES, SIR. IT IS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF, UH, IDEA BRACKEN RIDGE ELEMENTARY AND JUST OUTSIDE OF THE A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER FOR, UM, WAS IT, UH, ALLEN B SHEPHERD MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND I DON'T SEE ANY NOTES AND I'M QUICKLY GOING THROUGH IT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT STATES THAT PERSONS WERE PRESENT WHENEVER YOU MADE THE, WELL, I CAN'T SAY YOU, BUT MM-HMM . WHENEVER THE OFFICERS NOT CLARIFIED IN HERE, AND YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF ANY OCCUPANTS? UH, YES. IN THE BEGINNING, DURING THE FIRST INITIAL, UH, INSPECTION, UH, THE, THE, UH, COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WAS STILL OPERATING. UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE WENT THROUGH THE, UH, THE WHOLE PROCESS OF THE REVOCATION, OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. AND THE OWNER HAS COMPLIED WITH, UH, EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY HAS REQUIRED OF THEM. YEAH. BUT I'M, I'M, I'M MAINLY CONCERNED OF PEOPLE WHO AREN'T OWNERS. UH, NO. USING THAT AS A NOBODY, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ANCY EVIDENCE [01:10:01] OR ANYTHING OF THAT. NO. AND THE OWNER IS VERY, UH, PROACTIVE IN GOING OUT THERE AND CHECKING THE PROPERTY. UM, LIKE I SAID, IT IS FENCED OFF COMPLETELY. SO THE DOG THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY IN THAT ONE PICTURE OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE MM-HMM . IS THAT THEIR DOG ON THE PROPERTY OR IS THAT SOMEBODY'S DOG? THAT I THINK THAT'S THE NEIGHBORING DOG THAT COMES THROUGH. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY PLANS FOR ROBERT TAPI? ANY PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY AFTER, UH, FROM SPEAKING WITH THE OWNER AND, UH, AGAIN, HE CAN SPEAK MORE ON IT HIMSELF. UH, HE DOES HAVE PLANS TO, UH, BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE AND GOOD. BRING HIS BUSINESS BACK. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANY MORE? YOU GOOD, SIR? THANKS. THANK YOU. SALAZAR, IF YOU CAN PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT YOU RESIDE IN. UH, HI. MY NAME IS RENEE SALAZAR. I'M KIND OF NERVOUS, SO, UM, RELAX, , I DON'T KNOW THE DISTRICT. UH, MY ADDRESS, THE ADDRESS IS 56 42 OLD PIERCE ROAD, AND MY HOME ADDRESS IS 8 31 LAS PORTES. OKAY. UM, WHEN, WHEN THEY TOLD ME THAT, UM, WE HAD TO CLOSE THE BUSINESS, UH, THEY TOLD ME ON A FRIDAY, I GET NERVOUS, SORRY, THREE, THREE . UM, I CLOSED DOWN THE NEXT DAY AND STARTED LIKE GETTING OH S**T, GETTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER. UM, THEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PERMITS TO, UM, DEMOLISH AND WE HAD EVERYTHING. BUT NOW IT'S OKAY. NEED SOME WATER. NOW, THE, THE, THE STATE DOESN'T LET US, UM, NO, I'M VERY EMOTIONAL. SORRY. UM, EVERY TIME I SPEAK, LIKE IN PUBLIC, I GET, UH, NERVOUS. UH, IT'S OKAY. UM, THE STATE, SINCE THERE WAS, UM, WE DID THE ASBESTOS REPORT AND IT CAME POSITIVE. SO THE STATE DOESN'T LET US DEMOLISH UNLESS WE TAKE THE, UM, ASBESTOS OUT. BUT THE DEMOLISHED COMPANY SAYS WE CAN, SINCE IN THE PICTURE IT WAS, IT WAS ALREADY COLLAPSED. THE, THE DEMOLISHED COMPANY SAYS THAT THE ONLY WAY, UM, TO DEMOLISH IS IF THE CITY DOES LIKE A EMERGENCY. UH, I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW TO EXPLAIN IT, BUT EMERGENCY DEMO. YEAH. THE, UH, BUT THE, THE INSPECT, THE, UM, MANAGER SAID THAT, UM, THERE WAS NO WAY TO DO THE, UH, EMERGENCY DEMO BECAUSE IT'S NOT, UM, IT, IT IS NOT A, A, IT WAS, UH, DETERIORATED BY TIME. IT DIDN'T, A FIRE DIDN'T DO IT OR, AND A TREE DIDN'T FALL ON IT. USUALLY THAT'S WHEN THEY DO THAT. SO RIGHT NOW, LIKE I'M, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. UM, WE WANNA DO IT, BUT THE, THE STATE DOESN'T THERE, SO THAT'S FINE. AFTER ALL THIS, YOU'RE GONNA TALK TO THE, THE CODE OFFICER AND IT'S GONNA BE FIVE 30 HOURS LIFE GOES OFF. YEAH. SORRY. CAN WE ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS? MM-HMM . YOU HAVE A DEMO CONTRACT ALREADY OR DO YOU HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH YOU? UH, I, I, I SENT A COPY TO THE INSPECTOR, SO I DIDN'T BRING NOTHING BECAUSE I ALREADY GAVE IT THEM EVERYTHING. LIKE THE INSPECTOR YOU MEAN THE CODE OFFICER? THE, YEAH, I SENT AN EMAIL, NOT TO HIM, TO HIS SUPERVISOR. OH, OKAY. SO WE CAN PULL IT OUT. CAN WE SEE IF WE HAVE A COPY OF, OF HIS DEMO PERMIT AND 'CAUSE YOU ALREADY FILED THE PERMIT, CORRECT? YES, WE ALREADY HAVE IT. IT, UH, THEY ALREADY GRANTED IT, BUT NOW THE STATE DOESN'T LET US DO IT BECAUSE OF ASBESTOS. 'CAUSE ASBESTOS. SO YOU'RE GONNA NEED AN ASBESTOS CONTRACTOR OR ACTUALLY AN ASBESTOS DEMO. WHAT? THE INSPECTORS, UH, NO, WHAT THE CONTRACTOR SAID WAS THEY TREAT IT AS A ESAP, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MM-HMM . AND THEY WATER IT DOWN. THEY PUT, UH, MONITORS IN THE AIR AND THEY TREAT THE WHOLE BUILDING AS, UH, ASBESTOS. RIGHT. BUT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, THE CITY HAS TO DO THE EMERGENCY, UH, THING SO THE, THEY COULD BYPASS THE STATE. THAT'S WHAT THEY TAKE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL WORK THAT OUT. UM, SO I GUESS STAFF YOUR NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE FOR STAFF. [01:15:01] IT'S AN, IT IS GOING TO BE TREATED AS A HAZARD SITE. MR. CHAIR, GO AHEAD. I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE JUST FOCUS ON WHETHER THE PROPERTY IS A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE AND IF SO, LET'S MAKE A DETERMINATION. UM, WHAT, WHAT I'D, I'D, I'D LIKE TO STEER CLEAR OF IS ADVISING HIM ON HOW TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. OKAY, THANK YOU. YOU, WHEN DID YOU APPLY FOR THE PERMIT? UM, SINCE LIKE FEBRUARY OR MARCH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS THE PERMIT STILL ACTIVE? FEBRUARY, MARCH, SIX MONTHS, ISN'T IT? IT'S OFFICER HIGH MASO? UH, YES SIR. IT'S STILL ACTIVE. IT'S SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR? SIX MONTHS. SIX MONTHS? YES, SIR. YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT TIMELINE? UH, HE SHOULD HAVE TILL, I BELIEVE AUGUST, BUT, UM, YEAH. SO YOU'RE GETTING, YEAH, YOU CAN ALSO APPLY FOR AN EXTENSION ON THAT, ON THAT PERMIT. OKAY. SO HE'S STILL WITHIN HIS BOUNDARY OF ALMOST TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS? YES, SIR. YEAH. ALRIGHT, SO YOU'VE ALREADY GOT YOUR PERMIT AND YOU'VE ALREADY GOT YOUR CONTRACTOR. OKAY. YES. AND YOU'RE GONNA DEMO THE SITE. WE WERE SUPPOSED, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DEMO LIKE A MONTH AND A HALF AGO. WE HAD THE DATE AND IT WAS A, I, I REMEMBER IT WAS GOOD TO BE A MONDAY. I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE, BUT THEY, THE DEMO COMPANY CALLED ME ON A FRIDAY AND TOLD ME THAT, THAT THIS HAD COME UP AND WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A HEARING WITH YOU GUYS ON THE LAST MONTH. BUT I, I SIGNED, UH, SOME PAPERWORK, UH, TO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT IT WAS THE, THE, THE AGREEMENT, SOME AGREEMENT. I, UH, AGAIN, UH, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER JAIME HASSO, UH, THE OWNER, UH, HE WAS SCHEDULED FOR A BSB HEARING BACK IN APRIL, BUT IT DID, UH, GET REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA AND HE DID ENTER INTO A HOLD HARMLESS WITH THE CITY ORIGINALLY. UH, BUT THAT HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT WAS RESCINDED AS WELL. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A MINUTE AND READ THE DOCUMENTS FOR SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO SIR. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO SAY, SIR? NO, NOT REALLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. PERFECT. YOU GUYS GOOD? YOU GUYS GOOD? YOU GOOD? GOOD. YEAH. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING STAFF WANTS TO ADD? LEGAL CHAIR WILL RECOMMEND, UH, CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. CAN WE PUT THE CODE BACK UP THERE? THE SURE CAN GO. NOW REMEMBER BUILDING ONE IS ACTUALLY BUILDING TWO. THERE'S NO MAIN OH, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER. YES. OKAY. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT FIVE TWO. SORRY, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY AT 55 22 GAL LAND DRIVE, AKA 5 6 4 2 OLD PIOL ROAD IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION [01:20:01] OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56 56, SUB CODE MAIN BUILDING, 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18 ACCESSORY 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. I MOVE, I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER AND ANY OTHER ORDERS SUCH AS, SUCH AS SECURED AND FREE OF TRASH AND DEBRIS. MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR PROPERTY AT 5 5 2 2 G LANE DRIVE, AKA 5 6 4 2 O SALL ROAD IS TO BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS UNDER SECTION 6 1 5 6 SUBSECTIONS, 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. AND ALL DEBRIS MUST BE REMOVED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? IT'S ROBERT TAPPY SECOND. SECOND COM. UH, DISCUSSION FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. JUST TO CORRECT A MAIN TO BUILDING TWO. ROBERT BINKY. OH, CORRECT. UH, NOTED THAT IT WILL BE INSTEAD OF MAIN, IT'S ACTUALLY DEFINED AS BUILDING TWO AS CLARIFIED EARLIER IN THE, IN THE RECORD. ANY OTHER FRIENDLY OH, YOU, SHE ACCEPTS. YOU ACCEPT? YES. YOU ACCEPT SECOND? YES, SIR. OH, OKAY. ROBERT TAPIA? YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO SIR. ROLL CALL ROBERT TAPIA. AYE. PAUL HERNANDEZ? AYE. ROBERT BENKE. AYE. REGOS AYE. BRETT ANDES AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO. MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO SIR, YOU CAN GET WITH THE, UH, CODE OFFICER AND HE'LL EXPLAIN. YOU DID GOOD. THANK. SORRY. NO, IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. NEXT CASE IS ITEM 9 3 5 1 1 EL PASO STREET. GOOD MORNING. BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS ARIAN BLEDSO, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THE STRUCTURE BEING LOCATED, THE STRUCTURE PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 35 1 1 EL PASO STREET WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS PROPERTY IS BEING HEARD BEFORE THIS BOARD. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 6 9 4 7 LOT TWO ONE LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. THE OWNER ON RECORD IS CASTRO JOSE, WITH THE MAILING ADDRESS OF 1 4 7 0 6 ACADEMY OAK, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 7. ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED. MR. JOSE CASTRO IS PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THIS CASE. CONTACT HAS BEEN MADE TODAY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON MAY 15TH, 2025 THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION. THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS. THE FIRST INSPECTION REGARDING 3 5 1 1 EL PASO STREET WAS CONDUCTED ON APRIL 11TH, 2023. AN ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON APRIL 18TH, 2023 AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS UNCLAIMED ON APRIL 20TH, 2023. A PRE-BOARD CONFERENCE HEARING WAS SCHEDULED ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2025 IN WHICH NO ONE ATTENDED ON MAY 22ND, 2025. THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS MAILED TO THE OWNER ON MAY 22ND, 2025. THE NOTICE FOR THE BSB HEARING WAS POSTED AT 3 5 1 1 EL PASO STREET. NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS OF TODAY, JUNE 5TH, 2025. NO CURRENT OR ACTIVE PERMITS ARE ON FILE AS OF TODAY, JUNE 5TH, 2025. THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WERE TAKEN ON MAY 1ST, 2025 AND MAY 28TH, 2025. PICTURE PRESENTATION CONSISTS OF A SINGLE STORY, MAIN STRUCTURE AND DILAPIDATED CONDITION. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION. YOU CAN SEE THE MISSING, UH, SKIRTING, WHICH IS EXPOSED IN THE WORN WOOD MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY UNDER THE FRONT DOOR AREA. YOU CAN SEE THE DETERIORATED AND [01:25:01] SMOKE DAMAGE, UH, WOOD SIDING AND OVERHANG, AND THERE IS NO LANDING AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE. THIS IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE CONTINUATION OF THE MISSING SKIRTING AND THE CONTINUATION OF THE SMOKE DAMAGE SIDING AND THE PORCH OVERHANG DECKING ALSO CONTAINS SMOKE DAMAGE. AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU CAN SEE A DETACHING METAL GUTTER AT THE ROOF OVERHANG. THIS IS THE LEFT ELEVATION. LOOKING FROM THE REAR TO THE FRONT, YOU CAN SEE THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, AND IN THE MIDDLE IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT THERE THE ROOF IS SAGGING IN THE MIDDLE AND THE CONTINUATION OF THE WOR AND DETERIORATED SIDING AND OVERHANG THAT DOES CONTAIN SMOKE DAMAGE. THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATION WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE MISSING EXTERIOR WALL ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND THE REMAINING WALL IS DETACHING, CHARRED AND CONTAINS SMOKE DAMAGE. AND THERE'S ALSO NO LANDING AT THE REAR DOOR. GOING BACK TO THE FRONT ENTRANCE, THIS IS A CLOSEUP OF THAT WALL PANEL ON THE LEFT OF THE DOOR THAT IS DETACHING. WALKING INTO THE STRUCTURE, THIS IS A VIEW, IF YOU ARE LOOKING BACK OUTSIDE THE DOOR, YOU CAN SEE A SEPARATION WHERE THE WALL AND THE FLOOR UH, INTERSECT. TURNING AROUND IN THAT SAME ROOM, YOU CAN SEE THE SMOKE DAMAGED WALLS, THE FALLING DRYWALL AND INSTALLATION ON THE FLOOR SURFACE. LOOKING UP IN THAT SAME SPOT, YOU CAN SEE THE MISSING CEILING DECKING AND THE REMAINING CEILING DECKING IS DETACHING WITH THE SMOKE DAMAGED WOOD MEMBERS ON THE ROOF AREA. . WALKING FURTHER INTO THE STRUCTURE, THIS IS A VIEW OF ONE OF THE ROOMS WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FLOOR IS COVERED WITH INSTALLATION AND DRYWALL AND A CONTINUATION OF THE SMOKE DAMAGED WALLS WITH THE MISSING DRY WALL AND THE REMAINING DRYWALL IS DETACHING. AND ON YOUR RIGHT SIDE IN THAT CORNER, THAT IS A HOLE THAT IS ALLOWING IN OUTSIDE ELEMENTS GOING FURTHER IN THAT SAME ROOM TOWARDS THE WINDOW AND RIGHT DIRECTLY UNDER THE WINDOW. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE ROTTED FLOOR SURFACE AND WHERE THERE IS A HOLE LOOKING UP IN THAT SAME AREA, THIS IS A VIEW, UH, CLOSER VIEW OF THE HOLE THAT'S IN THE WALL RIGHT UNDER THE ROOF PITCH. THIS IS ANOTHER ROOM WHICH IS SHOWING THE CONTINUATION OF THE SMOKE DAMAGE WALLS. AND THERE IS A HOLE RIGHT UNDER THE WINDOW IN THE MIDDLE WHERE THE WALL INTERSECTS WITH THE FLOOR AND JUST A CONTINUATION OF THE MISSING AND ATTACHING CEILING DRYWALL. THIS IS A VIEW OF ONE OF THE ROOMS WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE WOR AND DETACHING, UH, WOR AND DETERIORATED WALLS. AND THE FLOOR SURFACE IS DETERIORATED AND IS COVERED WITH DRYWALL. THIS IS THE SAME ROOM, WHICH IS AN UPDATED VIEW SHOWING THE DET THE FURTHER DETERIORATION OF THE WALLS WITH THE MISSING WALL PANELS AND THE DETACHING DRYWALL. AND IF YOU LOOK UP, YOU CAN SEE A BETTER VIEW OF THE WATER DAMAGE ON THE CEILING DECKING. LOOKING BEHIND ME, WHERE I WAS JUST STANDING FROM THE PREVIOUS PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE THE SEPARATION IN THE WALL WHERE THE FLOOR AND THE WALL INTERSECT, ALLOWING IN, UH, OUTSIDE ELEMENTS. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE BATHROOM WHERE THE FLOOR IS COVERED WITH DRYWALL AND DEBRIS. THERE ARE HOLES IN THE WALL ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND THERE'S MISSING DRYWALL ON THE LEFT SIDE AND THE REMAINING DRYWALL IS DETACHING. AND THERE'S A, THERE'S ALSO SMOKE DAMAGE ON THE WALLS LOOKING UP AT THAT IN THAT SAME BATHROOM AREA, THIS IS, YOU CAN SEE THE CHARRED WOOD MEMBERS ON THE RIGHT SIDE UNDER THE ROOF DECKING AND ALSO THE MISSING CEILING DRYWALL. WALKING TO THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE, YOU CAN SEE THE FLOOR IS COVERED WITH DRYWALL AND INSTALLATION AND THE WALL IS MISSING ON THE RIGHT. THE REMAINING WALL CONTAINS A HOLE WITH CHARRED AND SMOKE DAMAGE WOOD MEMBERS THAT ARE DETACHING. WALKING FURTHER IN FROM THE PREVIOUS PHOTO INTO THAT ROOM AREA, YOU CAN LOOK UP AND SEE A CLOSEUP OF THE HOLE IN THE CEILING WITH THE CHARRED OF ROOF DECKING, CEILING JOISTS AND RAFTERS TURNING AROUND TO LOOK IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. YOU CAN SEE THE MISSING WALL ON THE LEFT AND THE REMAINING WALL CONTAINS CHARRED AND SMOKE DAMAGE WOOD MEMBERS. THIS IS A SINGLE STORY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ZONED R FOUR AND BUILT IN 1942. THE STRUCTURE HAS SUFFERED FIRE DAMAGE AND IS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF ADVANCED SAN ANTONIO CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER. THE WOOD SIDING IS WORN, DETERIORATED, AND LACKS WEATHER PROTECTION. THE SIDING IS ALSO DETACHING IN SOME AREAS ON THE F FRONT RIGHT AND LEFT ELEVATIONS. THE EXTERIOR WALL ON THE RIGHT SIDE AT THE REAR ELEVATION IS MISSING AND THE REMAINING EXTERIOR WALL IS CHARRED. THE GABLE ROOF SYSTEM ON THE LEFT ELEVATION IS SAGGING IN THE MIDDLE. THE SHINGLES ARE WORN, [01:30:01] DETERIORATED AND LIFTING. THE OVERHANG AND FACIAL BOARDS ARE DETERIORATED WITH DETACHING METAL GUTTER. THERE IS ALSO A LARGE HOLE AND A SEPARATION BETWEEN WHERE THE WALL AND FLOOR INTERSECT. TWO ROOMS ALLOWING IN NATURAL LIGHT. THERE IS A LARGE HOLE AND SEPARATION, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. THE INTERIOR WALLS CONTAIN SMOKE DAMAGE AND WALL STUDS THAT IN SOME ROOMS THAT ARE CHARRED, THE CEILING DECKING IS MISSING IN SOME AREAS AND THE REMAINING CEILING DECKING CONTAIN SMOKE AND SMOKE AND WATER DAMAGE. THE EXPOSED CEILING JOISTS AND RAFTERS ARE CHARRED WITH SMOKE DAMAGE. TO RECAP, THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 3 5 1 1 EL PASO STREET IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 6 1 5 6. SUBSECTIONS 1, 2 5 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. FOR THE MAIN IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE PROVIDED AT SUCH CONDITIONS OF DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE. A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION FOR THE MAIN. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 3 5 1 1 EL PASO STREET. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MR. ROBERT TAP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. YOU WEARING HARD HATS WHEN YOU GO IN AND OUT? YES, SIR. AND PROTECTIVE GEAR? YEAH. YES SIR. YES SIR. BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOOD. NOT GOOD. NO, SIR. THOSE MAIN STRUCTURE. THOSE MAIN, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS. LET ME ASK YOU, UM, IN YOUR NOTES, 6 8 24, YOU TALKED TO THE OWNER AND THE OWNER OBTAINED A PERMIT FOR THE FOUNDATION. I WAS ASSIGNED TO THE CASE IN AUGUST OF 24. OH. UH, THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS OFFICER WHO'S NO LONGER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. AND I DID, WHEN I WAS ASSIGNED TO THE CASE, I DID SEE IN THE NOTES THAT HE DID, UH, THE OWNER DID OBTAIN THREE PERMITS. UM, ON, IN FEBRUARY, 2024. UM, THERE WAS ONLY FOUNDATION WORK DONE WITH ONE OF THE PERMITS THAT WAS OBTAINED. HOWEVER, THE OTHER WORK FOR THE REROOF AND THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL REPAIR PERMIT WERE NOT, THERE WERE NO WORK DONE FOR THOSE TWO TERM PERMITS. WELL, IF THEY'RE WORKING ON THE FOUNDATION, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET TO THE OTHERS YET. YES, YES. OKAY. YES. BUT ALSO IN THE NOTES IT SAYS, AFTER HE OBTAINED A PERMIT FOR THE FOUNDATION ON THE PHOTOS, IT SHOWED FOUNDATION WORK BEING DONE. THAT'S WHY THE SKIRTINGS GONE AND THEY HAD CONCRETE POLES ON THE OUTER RIGHT ELEVATION. YES, SIR. THEY HAVE A BRAND NEW TREATED LUMBER. YES. PIERCE. AND THERE'S STILL SOME CEDAR INSIDE. YES, SIR. BUT IT SAYS IN THE NOTES HERE THAT NO REPAIRS HAVE BEEN MADE. IF THOSE NOTES ARE PRIOR TO EIGHT, AUGUST 24TH, THEN NO REP NO FURTHER. IT SHOULD HAVE STATED NO FURTHER REPAIRS IF THEREAFTER AUGUST 20, 24TH. THEREAFTER, THOSE, THERE WERE NO FURTHER REPAIRS. IT WAS JUST THE REPAIRS THAT WERE MADE TO THE FOUNDATION. WELL, IT DIDN'T EVEN SAY REPAIRS ON FOUNDATION IT SAYS VIOLATION WITH NO REPAIRS MADE. RIGHT. SO IF THE FOUNDATION'S BEING CORRECTED, THEN THAT WOULD BE REPAIRS, CORRECT? NO, THE FIRE, THE, THE, ONCE THE PERMIT WAS OBTAINED, THE FOUNDATION WAS REPAIRED. HOWEVER, AFTER THAT, FROM THE POINT WHERE I, UH, WAS ASSIGNED TO THE CASE IN AUGUST, THERE WERE NO REPAIRS BEING MADE. THERE WERE NO FURTHER WORK TAKING PLACE FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OR ANY CONTRACTORS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. IT WAS JUST HE REPAIRED IT AT THAT TIME AND ALL WORK CEASE. SO ALL THE FOUNDATION'S BEEN DONE? YES, SIR. AND THEN AFTER THAT IT JUST STOPPED. IT JUST STOPPED, SIR? YES, SIR. BUT HE HAD PERMITS FOR THE ROOF AND INTERIOR, CORRECT? WELL, THE PERMITS WERE NO LONGER ACTIVE. OH, OKAY. UH, AFTER THE SIX MONTHS FROM FEBRUARY, UH, SECOND FEBRUARY 5TH, 2024. UM, SO WHEN I WAS ASSIGNED TO THE CASE, I BELIEVE THAT WAS SIX MONTHS AFTER. UM, I DON'T HAVE, DON'T HAVE THE MATH IN FRONT OF ME. RIGHT. BUT I KNOW IT WAS SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT DATE WHEN I WAS ASSIGNED TO CASE. NO WORK WAS TAKING PLACE FROM THAT POINT ON. SO HE GOT THE FOUNDATION DONE, PERMITS RAN OUT, AND HE HASN'T REAPPLIED FOR THE OTHER PERMITS? YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND WHEN YOU'VE BEEN IN AND OUT OF THERE, THE ONLY THING YOU SAW WAS WHAT? THE PICTURES SHOW THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAW. NO, THERE WAS NO FURTHER WORK BEING DONE. THE ONLY THING I DID SEE, AND THAT'S WHY I SHOWED YOU A, A PHOTO FROM MAY 1ST AND THEN IT SHOWED A PHOTO FROM MAY 28TH. THAT ROOM WAS THE ONLY ROOM THAT [01:35:01] I SAW FURTHER DETERIORATION. AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS HOMELESS THAT ACCESSED THE PROPERTY, BUT I KNOW THE PROPERTY WAS SECURED UP UNTIL MAY 1ST WHEN I WENT ON THAT INSPECTION THAT THE FENCE WAS A JARRED AT THAT TIME AND ACCESSED IT WAS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. ACCESS IS A THOUSAND FEET FROM THE SCHOOL. IS THIS A MAJOR THROWAWAY FOR CHILDREN OR NO? NO, SIR. NO SIR. IT'S, IT'S SORT OF PUSHED IN A LITTLE BIT. SO IT'S NOT AN EVERY TIME I'VE GONE TO THE PROPERTY AND THOSE INSPECTIONS HAVE BEEN VARIOUS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. SOMETIME I WOULD GO IN THE MORNING TIME, I WOULD GO TOWARDS THE SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, DISMISSAL TIME. THERE WERE NO, NO ACTIVITY OF ANY CHILDREN, NEIGHBORS INPUT. I SPOKE TO A FEW NEIGHBORS, UH, DID NOT WANT, THEY DIDN'T WANNA PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK. UM, SO IT WAS KIND OF DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN ANY INFORMATION EXCEPT FOR THAT THE PROPERTY'S BEEN THAT WAY. AND THE FIRE, DID WE KNOW WHEN IT, IT OCCURRED ON, UM, APRIL 4TH, 2020? GIMME ONE SECOND. LET ME FIND THAT FOR YOU. I BELIEVE IT WAS APRIL 4TH. NO, APRIL 4TH, 2023. UM, BUT I DID SEE FROM MY, UH, INVESTIGATION THAT AS OF THE NEXT MONTH, WHICH IS 30 SORT OF LIKE 30 DAYS LATER, THE PROPERTY OWNER DID GO THERE AND HE STARTED BOARDING UP, UM, ACCORDING TO THE NOTES FROM THE PREVIOUS OFFICER. SO IT, IT LOOKS AS IF HE WANTED TO REPAIR THE PROPERTY FROM THAT POINT ON. YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE HE STARTED TO DO. YES. AND DO AND BRING IT UP TO COVES. YES SIR. AND THEN WHATEVER REASON, I GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. YES SIR. UM, SO WHEN YOU'VE GONE IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU CONTACTED WHEN YOU TOOK OVER? HAVE YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE OWNER? ZERO. AS OF, I WAS JUST ALERTED A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT THE OWNER DID, UM, MAKE HIMSELF PRESENT. UM, I DID OBTAIN HIS CONTACT INFORMATION AND I JUST TOLD HIM TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT, UM, HIS REASONING OF WHAT FOR THE PROPERTY. OKAY. SO YOU HAVEN'T HAD CONTACT WITH THE PREVIOUS? NO, SIR. NONE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YES SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANKS JOSE CASTRO, IF YOU CAN PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND THE COUNCIL DISTRICT YOU RESIDE IN. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JOSE CASTRO, OWNER OF 35 11 EL PASO. UM, WHAT I LIKE TO DO ON THE PROPERTY IS SINCE I ALREADY DID THE FOUNDATION, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO GO IS TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE, THE MOTHER HOUSE, AND JUST TRYING TO SAVE THE FOUNDATION AND MAKE A NEW HOUSE THAT WILL BE THE EASIEST WAY BECAUSE OF THE FIRE DAMAGE ON THE PROPERTY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? WELL, SIMPLE ENOUGH. YES, SIR. GOOD. THANK YOU FOR COMING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK NOTHING FROM STAFF OR LEGAL CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. THIS IS ROBERT BINKY. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 5 1 1 EL PASO STREET IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION 1 56, SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS AND THE PROPERTY BE FREE AND CLEAR OF TRASH AND DEBRIS. MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR 3 5 1 1 EL PASO STREET IS DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS UNDER SUB, UH, SECTION SIX. I'M SORRY, YEAH. 6 1 5 6 SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18 IS TO BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS. DO I HAVE A SECOND ROBERT TOY? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND. DO I HAVE DISCUSSION? YOU GO MOTION. THANKS MIKE. NO DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL ROBERT TAPIA. AYE. PAUL HERNANDEZ. AYE. ROBERT BENKE. AYE. REGO AYE. FERNANDEZ. AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO. MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. THEY'RE ALREADY OUT IN THE NEXT CASE. [01:40:15] GOOD MORNING. BOARD, BOARD FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS RYAN GARZA, DANGEROUS PREMISES OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THE STRUCTURE BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS LOCATED AT 1 8 1 5 ADAM STEM DRIVE WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME BEING HEARD BEFORE THIS BOARD. THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS NCB 1 3 3 1 8, BLOCK ONE LOT FOUR. THE OWNER ON RECORD IS CHARLES A. FRANKLIN WITH A MAILING ADDRESS OF 1-815-ADAMSON DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 0. ALL NOTICES OF HEARING WERE PROPERLY ISSUED AS REQUIRED. THE SON OF THE OWNER, UH, CHARLES A. FRANKLIN, UH, IS HERE, TWO SONS, UH, SOLOMON FRANKLIN AND ORMAN FRANKLIN CONTACT HAS BEEN MADE, UH, WITH SOLOMON FRANKLIN AND STATED THAT THE OWNER, UH, OF THE, OF THE STRUCTURE, CHARLES A. FRANKLIN, HIS FATHER IS DECEASED AT THIS TIME. THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS CONFIRMED ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2022. THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HIS HISTORIC DESTINATION. THE FOLLOWING IS A TIMELINE OF EVENTS REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS. THE INITIAL INSPECTION REGARDING 1-815-ADDISON DRIVE WAS CONDUCTED ON JULY 6TH, 2022. ORIGINAL NOTICE WAS MAILED ON JULY 15TH, 2022 AND THE CERTIFIED RECEIPT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED ON JULY 25TH, 2022. THE BSB NOTICE WAS POSTED ON MAY 23RD, 2025. NO SCOPE OF WORK OR FINANCIAL PROOF OR LETTER OF CREDIT OR OF ENGINEERS REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. THE FOLLOWING PERMITS WERE NOTED ON FILE R-E-P-R-O-F-P-M-T 24 DASH 3 5 2 1 5 7. REROOFING PERMIT WAS ISSUED ON MAY 3RD, 2024. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN A SCHOOL MARTIN LUTHER KING ACADEMY. THE PHOTOS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED TODAY FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WERE TAKEN ON FEBRUARY 27TH, 2025 AND MAY 29TH, 2025. THIS IS THE FRONT STRUCTURE ELEVATION OF A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE STORY WOOD FRAME STRUCTURE THAT IS, THAT HAS A GABLE ROOF SYSTEM. THE STRUCTURE SITS ON SLAB FOUNDATION. THE STRUCTURE SUSTAINED FIRE DAMAGE ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2018. NEXT PHOTO. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION. IT SHOWS THE GABLE ROOF SYSTEM SUFFERED MAJOR FIRE DAMAGE AND SMOKE AND WATER DAMAGE AS WELL. NEXT ONE. THIS PHOTO IS THE FRONT RIGHT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE. THIS PHOTO SHOWS THE FIRE DAMAGE FASCIA, BOARDS AND OVERHANG. THIS PHOTO IS THE RIGHT REAR ELEVATION. THIS PHOTO SHOWS THE FIRE, SMOKE AND WATER DAMAGE TO THE ROOF SYSTEM. THE TIE BEAM RAPTORS AND SEALY JOISTS ARE DAMAGED AND THE SIDING IS, THE SIDING IS DETERIORATED AND DETACHING FROM THE CARPORT. THIS IS THE REAR VIEW, UM, OF THE FIRE DAMAGED ROOF SYSTEM. THE RAFTERS, TIE BEAMS AND LARGE PORTION OF THE ROOF SYSTEM HAS COLLAPSED WITHIN THE STRUCTURE. THE INTERIOR STRUCTURE IS OPEN TO THE OUTSIDE ELEMENTS AND WILDLIFE. THE REAR ELEVATION SHOWS FIRE, SMOKE AND WATER DAMAGE TO THE VINYL SIDING. THE REAR ELEVATION WAS COMPLETELY CONSUMED BY THE FIRE WINDOW. GLAZING IS ALSO PRESENT. THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE ELEVATION SHOWING THE WINDOW. WINDOW GLAZING AND PORTIONS OF THE SIDING HAVE DETACHED. THIS WAS A PHOTO TAKING OF THE LIVING ROOM FACING THE REAR DOOR. THE WOODEN MEMBERS ARE CHARRED AND ALSO HAVE SMOKE, FIRE AND WATER DAMAGE. THE INTERIOR IS FILLED WITH DEBRIS OF THE ROOF SYSTEM THAT FELL. DRYWALL AND CEILING HAVE COLLAPSED AS WELL. UH, THIS IS THE PHOTO OF THE KITCHEN SHOWING THE SMOKE, FIRE, AND WATER DAMAGE TO THE WOODEN MEMBERS. TOP PLATE, DRYWALL SPLASH, UH, SPLASH GUARD, COUNTER AND TILES AND FLOORING. THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE KITCHEN COMING FROM THE HALLWAY. THIS PHOTO IS FROM OF THE HALLWAY SHOWING [01:45:01] THE FIRE, SMOKE AND WATER DAMAGE TO THE DRYWALL, THE WOODEN MEMBERS AND THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. THEM. THIS IS THE BEDROOM TO THE LEFT FROM TO THE LEFT OF THE HALLWAY SHOWING THE ELECTRICAL WIRES ARE HANGING FROM THE CEILING. UH, THE CEILING, UH, PORTIONS HAVE COLLAPSED AND THE DR AND SMOKE DAMAGE IS ALSO VISIBLE ON THE DRYWALL. THIS IS OF THE SAME ROOM, UH, SHOWING THE SMOKE, FIRE, AND WATER DAMAGE TO THE CEILING. IT ALSO CREATED A HOLE WITH INSULATION ON THE FLOOR AND THE, UH, RAFTERS AND FLOOR DECKING IS CHARRED AND DAMAGED. THIS PHOTO SHOWS A HALLWAY, RESTROOM, SEVERE FIRE, SMOKE, AND WATER DAMAGE TO THE CEILING WALLS AND FLOORING. ELECTRIC WIRES ARE ALSO EXPOSED HERE. THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE WATER CLOSET. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE FIRE SMOKING, WATER DAMAGE AND UM, EXPOSED PLUMBING THAT'S ALSO DAMAGED. AND THIS PHOTO'S TAKEN, TAKEN FROM THE OTHER END OF THE HALLWAY. LOOKING BACK TO THE FRONT LIVING ROOM, UH, IT SHOWS THE WOODEN MEMBERS THAT ARE CHARRED, UM, ALSO SHOWS THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM IS EXPOSED AND THE, UM, WOODEN MEMBERS ROTTED. SORRY. NO, YOU'RE GOOD. THE PICTURE PRESENTATION CONSISTS OF A ONE STORY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THAT SUSTAINED FIRE, SMOKE, AND WATER DAMAGE TO THE GABLE ROOF SYSTEM. A LARGE PORTION OF THE ROOF HAS BEEN CONSUMED BY THE FIRE LEAVING THE REMAINING MEMBERS CHARRED. THE WOODEN RAFTERS TIE BEAM AND CEILING JOIST ARE DAMAGED AND COMPROMISED. PORTIONS OF THE DRYWALL AND CEILING HAVE COLLAPSED WITHIN THE CEILING. WALLS AND FLOORS HAVE SMOKE, FIRE AND WATER DAMAGE. THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 1815 ADAMSON DRIVE IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE ARTICLE EIGHT, CHAPTER SIX DASH 1 56. SUBSECTIONS 1 2 5 7 8 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. AND IN AND IN WHICH ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH HAS ANY OR ALL CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS HEREIN AFTER DESCRIBED, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING AND A HAZARD TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE PROVIDED THUS SUCH CONDITIONS OR DEFECTS OF DILAPIDATION, SUBSTANDARD, OR UNFITNESS FOR HUMAN HABITATION POSE A THREAT OR POTENTIAL THREAT TO LIFE, HEALTH, PROPERTY OR HUMAN SAFETY STAFF RECOMMENDS DEMOLITION. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION OF 1815 ADAMSON DRIVE BOARD. HAVE QUESTIONS MR. ROBERT TAPIA. UH, SO THERE'S NO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY GOING? NO, SIR. AND THAT'S WHY WE COME UP TO THIS POINT WITH NO, UH, SAPD CASE NUMBER. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY, UH, SAPD CALLS FOR THAT LOCATION. WELL, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THE REPORT SAYS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO, THIS IS ROBERT BINKY. I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY HERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE NOTES. IT ALSO DOES SAY THAT THE FIRE TOOK PLACE IN DECEMBER OF 2018. DO WE BELIEVE THAT TO BE CORRECT OR NOT? 2022, ACCORDING TO THE ARSON DEPARTMENT, ONE OF THE INVESTIGATORS DID SAY THAT IT DID TAKE PLACE BACK THEN. PERFECT. THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING ANY MORE QUESTIONS. ELECTRICITY, WATER, OR OFF? I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE INACTIVE AND THERE'S NO VAGRANT ON THE PROPERTY. NO, SIR. HOW FAR IS THIS FROM A SCHOOL? IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A THEME TODAY. ALL OF 'EM HAVE BEEN BY SCHOOLS. YEAH. . UM, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT I DO KNOW THAT MARTIN LUTHER KING IS DOWN THE STREET. SO, SO WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MAJOR TRAFFIC FOR THE SCHOOL OR NO, THAT'S NOT, THIS IS ACTUALLY LOCATED WITHIN A CUL-DE-SAC. OKAY. SO THERE'S, THERE'S EVERY TIME I GO AND I'VE BEEN THERE THROUGHOUT VARIOUS HOURS. I NEVER SEE KIDS OUTSIDE. NOW WHEN YOU GO, YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN THIS RIGHT? BECAUSE I THOUGHT I SAW A NOTE IN HERE THAT IT WAS HANDED OFF. YES, SIR. OKAY. WHEN YOU PICKED IT UP MM-HMM . I'M ASSUMING YOU DID, UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW SOME COME UP HERE FOR OTHER CASES AND STUFF. UH, [01:50:01] HAVE YOU NOTICED ANYBODY, ANY ACTIVITY THAT SHOWS THEY'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN YES, SIR. UM, THEY PUT A FENCE, LIKE A TEMPORARY ORANGE CONSTRUCTION FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF IT. AND THEY ALSO TRIED TO REMOVE SOME OF THE TRASH AND DEBRIS. SO THEY, THEY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH IT. WERE THERE PERMITS PULLED ON THIS, UH, REROOFING PERMIT WAS PULLED AND THEY HAD PLANS TO PUT THE NEW ROOF ON. ONLY A RE-ROOFING. YES, SIR. WELL, A ROOFING PERMIT. RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH. WELL, ONLY A ROOFING PERMIT. NOTHING ABOUT, NO, NOT NOTHING. NO OTHER PERMITS OTHER THAN THAT ROBERT BINKY, YOU PROBABLY NEED A FRAMING PERMIT BASED ON THE DAMAGE THAT'S THERE TO REFRAME. WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. 'CAUSE IT'LL PROBABLY WAIT TILL AFTER THE ROOF IS ON. UM, AND I GUESS WE'LL TALK TO THEM WHEN THEY COME UP. UM, THEY, THEY'VE TALKED TO YOU AND THERE WAS NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO NOTHING WITH IT. THEY'RE MAKING ATTEMPTS TO DO SOMETHING. THEIR PLAN IS TO, UH, REBUILD IT, REBUILD, REBUILD, NOT, OR REMODEL, REPAIR, RE REPAIR. YEAH. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE. . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU SOLOMON. FRANKLIN, IF YOU CAN PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND THE COUNCIL DISTRICT YOU RESIDE IN. MY NAME IS SOLOMON FRANKLIN. GOOD MORNING. AND ACTUALLY I DON'T LIVE IN THAT DISTRICT ANYMORE. IT'S, OH, I'M SORRY. UM, IS THAT DISTRICT TWO OR FOUR? TWO? IT'S IN DISTRICT TWO. UM, MY, UH, DAD, UM, UM, WAS DIAGNOSED WITH DI DEMENTIA, HAD TO MOVE OUTTA THE HOUSE AND THE HOUSE CAUGHT FIRE WHEN HE WAS AT LAST THERE. AND, UM, AND HE REMAINED ALIVE UNTIL SOMETIME IN 2023. SO HE WAS STILL IN CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND SO FORTH. AFTER THAT. OUR YOUNGER BROTHER, HE'S NOT HERE, UM, TOOK CHARGE TO TAKE CARE OF THE HOUSE. THAT'S WHO PULLED THE, UH, PERMIT PREVIOUSLY. UM, AT THAT TIME HE WAS TOLD IF HE WOULD JUST PUT A ROOF ON THE HOUSE AND THAT ALL THE WINDOWS ARE INTACT INDOORS, THE CITY WOULD HAVE NO FURTHER PROBLEM WITH THE HOUSE. HE PULLED A PERMIT AND MADE VERY LIMITED PROGRESS TOWARDS THAT. AND THEN IT JUST STOPPED. I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN MY BROTHER ORAN WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT AT ALL. UM, WHEN WE FOUND OUT LATER THAT NOTHING WAS BEING DONE AND THAT THE CITY WAS HAVING PROBLEM, I ASKED THEM TO PUT ME ON THE, UM, THE, UH, NOTICES BECAUSE I WAS NOT ON THAT. AND SO HERE RECENTLY, UH, MY BROTHER ORNETTE AND I HAVE TRIED TO PICK IT UP AND OUR LATEST INTENTION IS, UM, WE IS TO, UM, ACTUALLY SELL THE PROPERTY. BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT INTO THE PROPERTY, IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 50% OF IT'S BURNT. BUT WHEN WE WENT INTO THE PROPERTY ON THE HALF THAT WAS NOT BURNT. UH, THERE WAS SOME SMOKE TO SOME STUDS, BUT WE CHECKED ALL THE STUDS, THEY WERE SOLID. UM, THE ROOF WAS SOLID ON THAT HALF AND SO FORTH. SO WE WOULD BASICALLY RETAIN SOME CAPITAL IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD GO TOWARDS THE REBUILD OR SELL IT AS A REBUILD. AND SO THAT'S WHAT OUR LATEST INTENT HAS BEEN. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE MORE RECENTLY IS BEFORE WE GOT INTO THAT, WE GOT WITH A TITLE COMPANY TO CLEAR THE TITLE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW ANY LIENS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY. 'CAUSE MY DAD WASN'T A VERY MUCH OF A TALKER. HE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A WHEEL, YOU KNOW. AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, THAT THE PROPERTY WAS CLEAR AND FREE. AND IT IS. WE GOT THE DOCUMENTS TO THAT EFFECT. UM, WE'RE REALLY AT THE MERCY OF THE BOARD HERE, AND WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO ASK IS TO GIVE US SIX MONTHS, AND I DON'T MIND PERSONAL REPORTING, GIVING REPORTS EVERY 30 DAYS TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE. IF IT, IF IT COMES TO THE FACT THAT IT'S STILL NO RETAINED CAPITAL THAT ONE CAN REBUILD, THEN WE WILL MORE THAN WILLING GIVE THE CITY A WHOLE HARMLESS AND GO WITH THE DEMOLITION. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET SIX MONTHS TO, TO, UM, TAKE CARE OF THIS PROPERTY. UM, WE THINK IT'S SOME SALABLE VALUE THERE. AND UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, AS FAR AS I KNOW OF NO POLICE REPORTS. UH, UM, THE TIMES I'VE GONE OVER THERE, THE TIMES HE'S GONE OVER, WE'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY INSIDE THE HOME. THERE ARE NO ANIMALS LIVING IN IT. ON THE LEFT SIDE, THE HOME ON THE LEFT SIDE, THAT IS THE NEIGHBOR THAT MY BROTHER WORKS WITH [01:55:01] TO KEEP THE GRASS CUT. UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, IT'S NO NEIGHBOR. IT'S A CPS HIGHLINE EASEMENT. SO NOBODY, YOU KNOW, TO OFFEND OR DISRUPT. UH, THERE, UH, ALSO THOSE INITIAL PICTURES WHERE YOU SAW THE REFRIGERATOR AND SO FORTH ON THE CARPORT THAT WAS PULLED OUT, I BELIEVE BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL OF THAT IS GONE. IT'S CLEAN. UH, THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR KEEPS THE GRASS UP AND I WOULD JUST REQUEST KEEP CLOSER TO, I WOULD JUST REQUEST ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO, UM, TO, UM, GET THIS THING TURNED AROUND TO YOU, TO YOU ALL SATISFACTION. SO BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS? IT IS ROBERT TAPIA. WELL, WELL THE DILEMMA THAT THE BOARD HAS MM-HMM . IS THE DEMOLITION OF THIS STRUCTURE. IT'S DANGEROUS. MM-HMM . AND WE NEED TO SEE A PLAN. YOU GOT RESOURCES TO DO ALL THIS. YES. BANK, BANK STATEMENTS. SOMETHING I, I COULD, I COULD SEND FOR, I COULD FORWARD A STATEMENT TODAY IF NECESSARY. UM, WE HAVE TO PASS JUDGMENT TODAY. MM. UM, BUT YOUR PLAN TO POSSIBLY SELL IT, WE CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH IT. BUT, UM, THAT SEEMS MORE FEASIBLE TO ME TO THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. UM, AND WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SELL IT. AND, UM, SO WE, WE DID FIND A FEW PEOPLE THAT WAS INTERESTED. UM MM-HMM . WE DIDN'T QUITE AGREE ON THE COST, BUT WE ARE WILLING TO AGGRESSIVELY PRICE IT WHERE TO MOVE. MM-HMM . SO, WELL, NO, WE ARE WILLING TO DO THAT NOW. SO WE, SINCE WE'VE GOT THE, UH, CLEAR TITLE AND SO FORTH, WE'RE WILLING TO BE MOVE VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH IT. ACTUALLY IN THAT AREA, A LOT OF THE HOMES ARE 50, 67 YEARS OLD AND MANY OF THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY REBUILT. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF INDEPENDENT BUILDERS OVER THERE THAT I THINK WOULD TAKE SOMETHING UP LIKE THIS. RIGHT. AND BY THE WAY, IT IS NOT WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A SCHOOL. THE NEAR SCHOOL IS PROBABLY AT LEAST TWO MILES AWAY. MM-HMM . SO MARTIN LUTHER KING IS WAY DOWN ON MARTIN LUTHER KING. THIS IS ON OFF PECAN VALLEY DRIVE FROM J STREET. SO THERE'S NO SCHOOL WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET. MM-HMM . OF THE HOME EITHER, SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ANYBODY ELSE? LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING, NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT CLEAR TITLE. IN ORDER FOR US TO GIVE YOU THE PERMISSION TO REBUILD, WE HAVE TO HAVE SPECIFIC DOCUMENTS AND THAT WOULD BE THREE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED WOULD BE A, UH, REQUIRED DOCUMENTS OR THE WORK SCOPE OF WORK, FINANCIAL PROOF, AND A REQUIRED TIMELINE THAT THIS ALL WOULD BE DONE. AND S PROBABLY IN THIS CASE IT WOULD. AND I KNOW, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS JUST GOT IT CLEARED AND NO PERMIT HAS BEEN PULLED SINCE YOUR BROTHER NO. PULLED IT AND THEN THAT'S CORRECT. DIDN'T COMPLETE. THAT'S CORRECT. SO A REALISTIC TIMELINE. MM-HMM . YOU GOTTA HAVE DOCUMENTS BEFORE US THAT WE CAN SAY THAT YOU HAVE. SO IN A REALISTIC TIMELINE, WHAT WOULD YOU REALLY SAY THAT YOU COULD HAVE THAT DONE? IN JUST THE DOCUMENTS? OR, OR, OR TO DO THE WORK. THE WORK. OKAY. SO OUR FIRST PREFERENCE IS TO TRY TO SELL THAT. THAT'S OUR FIRST PREFERENCE. WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING TO, UH, TO, UH, GET IT SOLD AND TO BUILDERS WHO, WHO, UH, REPAIR FIRE AND BURNT OUT STRUCTURES OR ANYONE WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD WANT TO BUY IT. SO, AND WE WOULD PRICE IT VERY AGGRESSIVELY. SO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANYTHING FROM LEGAL? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU ORNAN. FRANKLIN, IF YOU CAN PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND COUNCIL DISTRICT FOR THE RECORD. I, I AM OR FRANKLIN, UH, CHARLES FRANKLINS. ON THAT DEED, IT WAS MY FATHER AND IT RESIDES IN DISTRICT NUMBER TWO. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD, SIR? OH, UH, NO. NO. I MEAN, MY YOUNGER BROTHER WAS DOING THE, THE PROCESS. HE WOULD CALL ME SOMETHING HERE IN TOWN. OKAY. HE'S OUT OF [02:00:01] TOWN. AND UH, HE WAS, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSEDLY TAKING CARE OF THAT, PULL THE PERMIT TO TAKE CARE OF THE CLEAN OUT OF THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE AND UH, YOU KNOW, GET THOSE ITEMS HAULED OFF THE SHEET ROCK, ET CETERA, AND HAVE THE THING, UH, STUD THE STUD FREE AND CLEAR. AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND SO, UH, WHEN I FOUND OUT WAS WHEN A NEIGHBOR TOLD ME THERE WAS A NOTICE ON THE DOOR AND I WENT BY, I GOT THE PICTURE AND I CONTACTED MY OLDER BROTHER AND SAY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING HERE. WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING WITH THIS AND SQUARED AWAY. SO I TAGGED HIM TO BE IN CHARGE OF THAT PROCESS AND I SUPPORT HIM A HUNDRED PERCENT. IN WHICHEVER WAY WE NEED TO GO. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. ALRIGHT. THANKS A LOT. CHERYL. ENTERTAIN A MOTION. YES. ROBERT TOP YOU. I MOVE TO THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1-815-ADAMSON DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO. 7 8 2 2 0 IS A PUBLIC NUISANCE PER CITY CODE. CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 57, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE, WOULD BE REPAIRED AT THIS TIME AND IS IN VIOLATION OF CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION SIX DASH 1 56, SPECIFICALLY CODE SECTIONS 1, 2, 5 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18. WE FURTHER MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THIS ORDER. UM, FREE OF DEBRIS AND TRASH IT DEBRIS. MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR 1 8 1 5. ADAM SMITH DRIVE TO BE DEMOL WITHIN 30 DAYS UNDER SECTION 6 1 5 6 SUBSECTIONS 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 15, 17, AND 18 TO BE DEMOLISHED WITHIN 30 DAYS. CLEAR OF ALL DEBRIS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? THIS IS ROBERT BINKY. I SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND DISCUSSION. NO. ROLL CALL. ROBERT TAPIA. AYE. PAUL HERNANDEZ. AYE. ROBERT BENKE. AYE. REGO AYE. FRED ANDES. AYE. MOTION PASSES WITH THE VOTE OF FIVE TO ZERO, SIR, YOU CAN GET WITH YOUR, UM, CODE OFFICER AND HE'LL EXPLAIN. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. I BELIEVE THAT WRAPS ALL THE CASES UP. UH, ADMINISTRATIVE JUDY CRUM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I DO HAVE ONE UPDATE. WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE REAPPOINTMENT MEMO FROM COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN REAPPOINTING PAUL HERNANDEZ TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD. THIS ITEM IS SCHEDULED TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD FOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL NEXT WEEK ON JUNE 12TH. THANK YOU. LEGAL. I JUST REAL QUICK, UM, THE REASON I DIDN'T WANT US TO GET INVOLVED IN, UM, THE GENTLEMAN THAT ALREADY HAD HIS DEMO ORDER IS BECAUSE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IS GET IT SET UP FOR AN EMERGENCY DEMOLITION SO HE CAN BYPASS THE, SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE, ARE THERE. THAT'S WHY HE KEPT MENTIONING, UH, IT SHOULD BE AN EMERGENCY. IT'S, IT'S JUST THE TACTIC SOME OF THEIR CONTRACTORS TELL THEM TO DO. SO USUALLY IF A PROPERTY COMES IN HERE AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT SHOULD BE HERE, THERE'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT'S HOLDING IT UP. LIKE THE WHOLE HARMLESS AGREEMENT. OH, WE HAVE ONE SIGNED. RIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE ONE SIGNED THAT SAYS DECONSTRUCTION. OH, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THAT ONE? SO I JUST, WHEN IF, IF YOU GUYS HEAR ME ASKING QUESTIONS, IT'S MOST LIKELY 'CAUSE LUCINDA OR OR OR MYSELF, OUR EARS HAVE PERKED UP. THERE'S JUST SOMETHING AND IT MIGHT JUST BE US AS PROSECUTORS, BUT I'M, I JUST, IT DIDN'T, DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT. SO, BUT, AND THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW. THAT'S WHEN YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE US THE CABOOSE SPEECH. YEAH, YOU ARE CORRECT. WELL, I, I BRING IT UP BECAUSE SOMETIMES IN THE WORDING THEY USED, UH, UH, CLARIFICATION IS WHAT MOST OF 'EM WILL TRY TO APPEAL OFF OF. BUT WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS HE WAS NEVER TOLD, BUT YET HE ADMITTED HE WAS AND HE SAID THEY'RE GONNA SPRAY IT DOWN. AND IF ANYBODY KNOWS DEMOLITION, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SPRAY IT DOWN REGARDLESS. EVEN IF YOU'RE OUT DEMOING YOUR HOUSE, A CREW IS REQUIRED TO SPRAY IT DOWN. NOW HOMEOWNER DOESN'T HAVE TO, BUT THE CREWS ARE BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS REGARDLESS. SO ANYTHING FROM OUR ESTEEMED BOSSES UP FRONT BOARD, I'M GOOD. [02:05:01] BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, WE ARE ADJOURNED. I. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.