* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT. GOOD AFTERNOON. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. MY NAME IS JOHN BUSANTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. THE TIME IS ONE O'CLOCK AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION. END THE SESSION. I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UH, MARCO BARROS, DISTRICT NINE, ROB S SIPES, DISTRICT SEVEN, WORLDLY GONZALEZ, DISTRICT EIGHT. DANIEL KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10 GEORGE OSA, DISTRICT THREE. KEN HUI, DISTRICT SIX. ALRIGHT. STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT. YES. THE QUORUM IS PRESENT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT, PRIOR TO STARTING OUR HEARING, IF STAFF COULD PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF. UM, WE ARE GONNA USE A THREE MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA DO A COUPLE OF THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. CAN WE PULL OFF THE EXTRA ITEM EIGHT OFF THE AGENDA? THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ALRIGHT. NOW STAFF IF YOU WOULD THANK YOU. BEFORE I PREFER BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 BODY BO 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES. UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU'LL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU'LL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. AND PLEASE ANNOUNCE THAT WHEN THE SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM THAT YOU ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME TO THEM. THE APPLICANT THEN WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER AND A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, POSTPONE, WITHDRAWN OR PULLED ITEMS TODAY? WE DO NOT. ALRIGHT. IF [Zoning Items  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pproval of Minutes  ] NINE ON OUR MINUTES IS APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 3RD ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. WELL I APPRECIATE THE CONFIDENCE TO SERVE AS BOTH THE PRIMARY AND ALTERNATE MEMBER. UM, I THINK THE MOTION WAS FOR THE ALTERNATE. WAS THAT YOU COMMISSIONER REBATO? YEAH. SO IF WE COULD CHANGE, IF WE COULD ADD OR IF WE COULD REPLACE MY NAME WITH WELL WE WERE JUST HOPING TO SPLIT YOU IN TWO AND, AND LET YOU DO BOTH ROLES. ? YEAH. . HE WAS TRYING TO TAKE THE EXTRA PAY . THAT WAS IT. ALL OF THE EX ALL OF THE ZERO EXTRA PAY. YEAH. ZERO. THE OCCASIONAL SANDWICH. YES. . NO. ALRIGHT. THAT WAS IT. VERY GOOD. UH, ANY FURTHER CHANGES? ALRIGHT. UH, HEARING NONE. SEEING NONE. UH, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE EDIT. UH, MR. SIPES BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. OKAY. AND THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT. BY ACCLIMATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL, UH, OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, INCLUDING THE EDIT BY COMMISSIONER SIPES SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ALRIGHT. [Director’s Report  ] MINUTES ARE APPROVED. DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? I'LL OFFICIALLY MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT IF SOME OF YOU WEREN'T IN WORK SESSION. UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, CHRISTIE, UM, FLORES HAS MOVED ON TO, UH, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WHERE KAT STOLE HER. I'LL GO PUT THAT ON RECORD. . UM, AND UM, SO WITH THAT WE HAVE SELECTED KELLY SANDERS TO BE OUR ZONING MANAGER, UM, OVER OUR ZONING TEAM AND BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS TEAMS. SO, UH, WE THANK HER AND WELCOME HER TO LEAD OUR ZONING COMMISSION AND OUR BOARD OF ALRIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS MS. SANDERS. ALRIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING, UH, IN RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER WIT'S COMMENTS, UH, WE DO HAVE A WONDERFUL STAFF. UH, THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE NOT ONLY THE STAFF, BUT THE STAFF REMAIN HERE FOR AS LONG AS THEY DO. SO. UH, 'CAUSE IN, IN MANY CASES THAT'S NOT ALWAYS TRUE. UH, BUT THAT KIND OF CONTINUITY IS INVALUABLE I THINK, TO THIS COMMISSION. AND SO THANK YOU AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, LOOKING LEFT. SEEING NONE. LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. THE TIME IS 2 38 AND THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.