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OKAY, IT IS 2 0 3 AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL TODAY'S MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.
UH, WILL THE STAFF PLEASE DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA.
COMMISSIONER RO EGRIN PRESENT.
PRESENT ACCORDING MS. PRESENT.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
IF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SPEAK NOW OR WAIT TILL YOUR INDIVIDUAL ITEM IS BROUGHT UP FOR THE HEARING AND SPEAK.
AT THAT TIME, REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? THERE BEING NONE TODAY WE HAVE TWO
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AGENDAS.WE HAVE THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA AND THAT IS CASES THAT OUR STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT REQUIRE FURTHER DETAILED DISCUSSION AND NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
THESE CASES WILL BE READ INTO THE RECORD FOR ONE UNIFIED MOTION AND IF SOMEONE HAS SEEN TO, IF SOMEONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM, THAT ITEM WILL MOVE TO THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA.
THE SECOND AGENDA IS THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA, AND THESE ARE CASES THAT ARE PLACED ON INDI.
THESE ARE CASES THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED SEPARATELY PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKING A MOTION OF THE ITEM.
WE'LL BEGIN TODAY WITH THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER, ITEMS NUMBER TWO HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN HAS BEEN POSTPONED, AND WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER FOUR, SIX, AND EIGHT FOR INDIVIDUAL LEAVING THE REST FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IS THAT CORRECT? VICKI? CAN YOU PULL NUMBER TWO AND PUT THAT ON? UH, POSTPONE, WITHDRAWN.
AND ITEM NUMBER 10 IS ON INDIVIDUAL AS WELL? THAT'S CORRECT.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS ON INDIVIDUAL, SO 4, 6, 8, AND 10 ON INDIVIDUAL.
IF, IF THAT'S SETTLED, THEN CAN I STAFF, UM, READ INTO THE RECORD? THEY COMBINE HEARING AGENDA.
AND THEN VICKI, CAN WE MOVE NUMBER FOUR TO INDIVIDUAL AS WELL? GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS JOYCE PALMER AND I'M A PLANNER FOR LAND ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS 4, 6, 8, AND 10, WHICH HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH HAS BEEN POSTPONED AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED IN TODAY'S AGENDA.
AND ITEM TWO, WHICH HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN, THE BALANCE OF TODAY'S AGENDA WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION UNDER A SINGLE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
DO WE HAVE, UM, IF, IF MOTION FOR APPROVAL? THANK YOU.
FROM, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER RAMOS AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PECK.
CAN STAFF DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.
NEXT WE HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA
[4. 19-7250 19-11800001: Request by Joseph Hernandez, KB Homes, for approval to replat and subdivide a tract of land to establish Clearcreek Subdivision Unit 3 subdivision, generally located southwest of the intersection of Higgins Road and Stahl Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Chris McCollin, Senior Planner, (210) 207-5014, christopher.mccollin@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
AND WE'LL START OFF WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL.IT IS 2 0 8 AND COMMISSIONER PECK HAS LEFT THE ROOM.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR? SO MOVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA.
I BELIEVE THE SECOND WAS FROM COMMISSIONER RAMOS.
UH, CAN YOU STAFF DO THE ROLL CALL? VOTE FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
COMMISSIONER AURORA LEGI? YES.
CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.
CAN SOMEONE LET MR. PNO, HE'S WELCOME BACK IN.
IT IS STILL 2 0 8 AND MR. PECK HAS RETURNED.
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NEXT ON THE AGENDA[6. 19-7578 (Continued from 09/25/19) PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2019-11600059 (Council District 2): A request by Roi Biton, applicant, for approval of a Resolution to amend the Government Hill Neighborhood Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Low Density Mixed Use" to "Mixed Use" on approximately 0.3535 acres out of NCB 495, located at 1403 North Pine Street, 1405 North Pine Street and 527 Duvall Street. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2019-10700207) (Patricia Franco, Planner, (210) 207-5876, Patricia.Franco@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
IS ITEM NUMBER SIX.ITEM SIX IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY MIXED USE TO MIXED USE LOCATED AT 1403 NORTH PINE STREET, 1405 NORTH PINE STREET AND 5 27 DEVAL STREET.
32 NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
FOUR RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
AND THE GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY MIXED USE TO MIXED USE IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO RENTAL.
THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS CALL FOR MIXED USES SUCH AS HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES TO BE SUITED PRIMARILY ALONG THE HIGHER ORDER HIGH ROADWAYS OR INTEGRATED WITHIN STRUCTURES.
MOREOVER, SHOULD THE APPLICANT OPT TO AMEND THEIR REQUEST TO C ONE CD, THEIR PROPOSED REZONING REQUESTS COULD BE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THE CURRENT LOW DENSITY MIXED USE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION, WHICH PROVIDES FOR A MIX OF LOW INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
EXAMPLES OF LOW DENSITY MIXED USE INCLUDE OFFICE PROFESSIONAL, PERSONAL SERVICES, SHOPFRONT, RETAIL OR CAFES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
IS THE APPLICANT READY TO PRESENT? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND PLEASE.
UH, ROY BETON AND I LIVE ON TWO 10TH FURNISH AVENUE.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, BUILD A ART GALLERY WITH MIXED USE OF, UM, A RENTAL COMP, A RENTAL COMPANY THAT HAS TWO CARS, NOTHING WITH HIGH TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE PRESENT OUR, UM, PLANNING FOR THE NEIGHBORS ALL AROUND.
WE GOT APPROVAL, UM, FROM ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS BY RIDING AND UM, UH, ROSE HILL, WHICH IS THE ASSOCIATION MANAGER ALSO APPROVED.
SO HOPEFULLY I CAN GET YOUR GUYS SUPPORT AS WELL.
UM, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.
LET'S START ON THE LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
NO QUESTION I'D LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT.
HERE'S THAT, UH, THE, UH, ONE ZONING WHICH WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE USES, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO CHANGE WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU ARE PARKING.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU REALLY OPPOSED TO THAT OR WOULD YOU CONSIDER UM, I, I OPPOSED TO C ONE AND WE HAD THIS ISSUE, UM, NOT ISSUE, BUT QUESTION BEFORE.
UM, THE REASON WHY I STICK TO C TWO IS BECAUSE OF THE, WHERE THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE POSITIONED ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE TRYING TO HAVE THE PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UH, DUVAL STREET IS LITERALLY A FIVE OR SIX FEET WIDE THAT IT'S VERY DANGEROUS ROAD THAT YOU CAN FALL OFF WHEN YOU DRIVE ON IT BECAUSE OF THE TRA THE TRAIN TRACKS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE SOME PICTURES ON GOOGLE TO SHOW THAT.
UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE AN ACCESS, A SAFE ACCESS FROM PINE STREET ONTO THE PROPERTY AND HAVE ALL THE PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING INSTEAD OF IN THE BACK, WHICH IS CLOSER TO THE NEIGHBORS.
MAY STAFF COMMENT ON, ON THAT POINT, ON THE STATUS OR THE HOW DEVAL STREET CURRENTLY SITS OR IS CONSTRUCTED FOR HIS CONCERNS? UH, WHEN WE DID THE SITE VISIT, IT'S, UM, IT IS KIND OF NARROW, BUT IT'S MORE OF AN ISSUE OF THE INCLINE THAT HIS PROPERTY IS, IS RAISED ABOUT MAYBE TWO FEET, UM, HIGHER THAN, UH, THE SIDEWALK LEVEL.
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WOULD NEED TO, UM, HAVE A SETBACK FOR PARKING TO, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE STRUCTURE FURTHER THAN, UM, THE 20 FOOT MAXIMUM IN C ONE.UM, BUT AS FAR AS DEVAL STREET, UH, I DON'T HAVE A, A PICTURE TO SHOW YOU.
CAN WE PULL IT UP ON GOOGLE MAPS? UH, VICKI AND I WASN'T HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, SO I HAVE A, I GUESS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
SO YOU SAID IT'S GONNA BE AN ART GALLERY? YES, MA'AM.
IT'LL BE AN ART GALLERY SLASH UM, RE UH, CAR RENTAL, EXOTIC CAR RENTAL.
UM, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME SEE THE ART OR COME PICK UP A CAR.
UH, IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S ONLY TWO CARS, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A VERY HEAVY TRAFFIC.
SO HOW BIG IS THE BUILDING GONNA BE? HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE YOU GONNA NEED AND, UM, THE TRAFFIC I GUESS? UH, I, I CURRENTLY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE BUILDING FOR THE PARKING LOT, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED LIKE FIVE OR SIX PARKING, IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE IT'S FIVE OR SIX PARKING SPOTS.
AND SO THAT'S DEVAL STREET IN THE BACK ON, YEAH, ON THE LEFT RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S, UM, THAT'S IN VERY POOR CONDITION.
WELL I BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE I PLATTED PAPER STREETS THAT HAS JUST BEEN PAID FOR MAYBE AND SERVING LIKE SORT OF LIKE ALLEY ACCESS, BUT NOT ON AN IMPROVED STREET THAT MEETS CODE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SO IF HIS PROPOSAL WAS, WAS TO UTILIZE DUVAL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IMPROVED, UM, FOR MINIMUM WIDTH REQUIREMENTS OR, UM, HE WOULD UTILIZE THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S ALREADY ON PINE STREET THAT ACCESSES THE PROPERTY ALREADY.
I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, I GUESS 'CAUSE I WASN'T HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, SO I'M PRETTY SURE Y'ALL WENT INTO DISCUSSION ON THIS, BUT WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH, WITH THE PARKING? 'CAUSE YOU CAN PARK RIGHT NOW ON PINE STREET OR ACCESSED IT THROUGH PINE.
UH, C ONE ALLOWS YOU ONLY 20 FEET SETBACKS FROM THE SIDEWALK INTO THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE BUILDING CAN HAVE, THE BUILDING HAS TO BE BUILT MAXIMUM 20 FEET FROM THE FRONT.
AND IF I'M TRYING TO BUILD PARKING SPOTS FOR THE, FOR THE CLIENTS TO, TO PARK IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, IT WILL NOT WORK BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS INCLINE, THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE.
UM, AND THEN WE COMPLETELY EXCLUDED DUVAL STREET ON THE LEFT.
SO C TWO ALLOWS ME TO PUSH THE BUILDING FARTHER IN THE PROPERTY AND THEN I, I'M ABLE TO ACTUALLY SET THOSE PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
WHAT KIND OF USES ARE ALLOWED UNDER C TWO THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE C ONE? UM, YOU'LL HAVE MORE RETAIL TYPE USES IN C TWO.
UM, AND C ONE ALLOWS A LOT OF THE C TWO.
UH, BUT, UH, SOME OF THE DISTINCT ONES THAT I RECALL OFFHAND IS, UH, TIRE REPAIR AND, UH, OIL LUBIN TUBE FACILITIES ARE ALLOWED IN C TWO, NOT ALLOWED IN C ONE.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR PROBABLY THE APPLICANT.
I GUESS IT COULD BE STAFF ALSO, BUT, SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THE GRADE REALLY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ABILITY TO PUT THE PARKING IN THE FRONT OR NOT, BECAUSE YOU COULD JUST, I MEAN, THERE'S A RETAINING WALL THERE NOW.
YOU COULD DO A RETAINING WALL IN THE BACK OF THE PARKING AND THEN A RAMP FOR A HANDICAP ACCESS AND STAIRS UP TO THE BUILDING AND IT'S REALLY ONLY A COUPLE OF FEET.
SO IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A WALL.
I MEAN, WHY, WHY DOES THAT PREEMPT THE ABILITY TO PUT PARKING IN THE FRONT? SO C ONE REQUIRES PARKING, UH, TO BE IN THE REAR, OR YOU CAN HAVE UP TO TWO, UM, LANES IF YOU WILL, UH, HEAD IN PARKING IN THE FRONT.
UH, BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW BUILDING, YOUR MAX SETBACK IS 20 FEET.
UH, AND IF HIS DESIRE IS TO PUT PARKING IN THE FRONT, HE CAN'T REQUEST A VARIANCE OF MORE THAN 39 FEET TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO PUSH THE BUILDING BACK FURTHER.
I BELIEVE HE WANTS TO PUSH THE BUILDING BACK AS AS GREAT AS 50 FEET OR MORE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING IN THE FRONT.
AGAIN, IT, IT CENTERS AROUND THE DESIRE TO PUT PARKING IN THE FRONT.
SO, SO HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DOES HE NEED? THE CURRENT SITE PLAN THAT WE HAVE, UM, IN REGISTRAR HAS BEEN SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC.
HE CURRENTLY HAS IT FOR 2000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE VEHICLES AND 3000
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SQUARE FEET FOR THE ARC.UM, WITH 2000 SQUARE FEET, UH, FOR THE VEHICLES, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE PARKING PER 1000 GROWTH FLOOR AREA, WHICH WOULD PUT AT TWO, UH, PARKING SPACES.
AND FOR THE ART YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, ONE PER 300 SQUARE FEET, WHICH PLACES HIM AT 10.
UM, SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 12 PARKING SPACES.
HOWEVER, HE'S CURRENTLY AMENDING HIS SITE PLAN AND WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE IT BY FRIDAY MORNING, UM, TO REFLECT.
UM, I THINK, UH, I THINK HE'S GONNA BRING IT DOWN TO FOUR PARKING SPACES FOR THE CARS AND, UH, UH, FOR THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF, OF, OF THE VEHICLES.
AND THEN HE'S GONNA BRING IT DOWN TO ONE PARKING SPACE OF THE TOTAL OF 300 SQUARE FEET FOR THE ART GALLERY.
SO THERE'S PHYSICALLY NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO PUT ALL THE REQUIRED PARKING IN THAT FIRST 30, WHAT IS IT, 39 FEET OF THE PROPERTY OR WHATEVER IT IS, 4 49 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
IS THAT WHAT THE DEAL IS? THERE'S PHYSICALLY NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR THOSE, THAT NUMBER OF SPACES? WELL, HE'S NOT RESTRICTED TO ONLY USING PARKING IN THE FRONT, UM, AND SEATS TO AND SEE, UH, C TWO, I'M SORRY, C ONE, IT'S, IT'S ONLY A MAXIMUM OF 20 FEET FROM THE STRUCTURES OF THE PROPERTY LINE.
BUT, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU COULD FIT, UM, 12 PARKING SPACES IN THE FRONT CURRENTLY.
BUT HE WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
UM, BUT HE, HE WANTS TO C TWO SO THAT THERE'S NO MAC FROM SETBACK 'CAUSE HE WANTS ALL THE PARKING IN THE FRONT.
I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
UM, ON THAT C TWO, BECAUSE THERE'S MORE INTENSITY, I MEAN, JUST INCREASING FROM A C ONE TO C TWO, IS HE WILLING TO REMOVE THOSE ADDITIONAL, WHATEVER THOSE HIGH INTENTS USES WOULD BE IN ORDER TO STAY CONFINED WITHIN THE, LIKE THE C ONE IF HE, IF HE CHANGES IT TO C TWO BY RIGHT.
UM, THOSE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
UM, SOME EXAMPLES OF THOSE USES COULD BE A LIMOUSINE SERVICE, A PARKING GARAGE, A TIRE REPAIR, AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK OIL AND TUNEUP, UM, AN ANIMAL CEMETERY, UH, A LIQUOR STORE OR A POOL HALL.
THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES, BUT IF IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THAT DISTRICT, YOU'RE, YOU, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REMOVE THOSE.
AND ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE SHE SIGNED UP, BUT SHE'S HERE.
I WANNA RECOGNIZE ROSE HILL WITH GOVERNMENT HILL.
BUT, UM, I GUESS THAT JUST BRINGS A DIFFERENT CONCERN.
AND MAYBE IF I HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER AND THEY'RE FULLY AWARE THAT A BAR OR A TIRE REPAIR, NOT A BAR, BAR IS NOT ALLOWED IN CT.
A LIQUOR STORE, A LIQUOR STORE OR THE TIRE REPAIR SHOP CAN LEGALLY GO IN THERE AND THEY'RE STILL FINE WITH THAT THEN, I MEAN, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT SHE'S AWARE OF THOSE KIND OF CONDITIONS THAT ARE, COULD ALSO GO ON THAT PROPERTY UP TO YOU TO, I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE COMMISSION TO FINISH WITH QUESTIONS AND THEN WE CAN CALL UP CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? YES, I, I JUST WANTED CLARITY ON THE PARKING.
SORRY, I KNOW YOU NEED TWO SPACES FOR YOUR EXOTIC CARS, THE REST OF THE PARKING, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT OR THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A PARKING MINIMUM FOR THE CITY LAWS.
UM, UH, FOR THE EXOTIC CARS, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE IN THE BUILDING.
UM, BUT THE PARKING FOR THE FRONT, I'M TRYING TO, FIRST OF ALL KEEP AWAY.
ALL THE CARS ARE DRIVING ON THE LOT AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS 'CAUSE THE NEIGHBORS ARE IN AN L SHAPE AROUND A LOT.
AND THE SECOND IS TO HAVE TO USE MOST OF THE SPACE IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING INSTEAD OF IN THE BACK BECAUSE OF THE DUVAL STREET AND OTHER ISSUES THAT MIGHT HAVE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING.
ANY MORE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? UM, I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION IS, SO WITH THE, WITH THE MAXIMUM SETBACK, IS THAT ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT PARKING SPOTS? I MEAN, JUST PHYSICALLY.
I, I THINK WITH THE ELEVATION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE 20 FOOT, I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO FIT A SPACE IN THE FRONT.
CAN, CAN I MAKE ONE MORE? SORRY.
THIS IS MORE COMMON THAN A QUESTION.
MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THIS IS THAT IF THE OWNER CHANGES MINE OR DOESN'T SUCCEED, WE'VE CO AND I WOULD, WHAT HE'S DESCRIBED SEEMS WORTH, SEEMS ACCEPTABLE.
MY CONCERN IS THAT BY ALLOWING THE LAND USE CHANGE, IT NOW OPENS THE DOOR FOR MANY OTHER TYPES OF USES, UM, WHICH THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON.
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SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED.SO THAT, SO IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THE REQUEST, THEN IT COULD NOW GO TO MANY OTHER TYPES OF USES FOR THE PROPERTY.
AND, AND NEIGHBORS WERE NOTIFIED, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOTIFIED OF HIS MAX REQUEST, WHICH IS THE C TWO.
BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION OF, THEY, THEY WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT A LIQUOR STORE IN THERE, FOR EXAMPLE? UH, NO, BECAUSE AGAIN, ALL THEY'RE NOTIFIED IS, UH, OF THE CHANGE TO C TWO.
SO ALL USES WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'LL HAVE TO CONSIDER WHEN THEY DO RECEIVE, WHEN THEY RECEIVED IN THE NOTICE.
AND IF THEY HAVEN'T RESPONDED, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW TO, HOW TO TAKE THAT, THAT THEY HAVEN'T RESPONDED.
AND YOU STATED THAT, UM, ROSE HILL DID SIGN UP TO SPEAK? YES, SHE DID.
YOU NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS ROSE HILL, PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE.
UM, I WANTED TO, FIRST OF ALL, UM, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
UM, WE WENT AHEAD AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A TRANSPARENCY POLICY IN GOVERNMENT HILL AND MAKING SURE THAT FIRST OF ALL, THAT THIS, ANY APPLICANTS ARE COMING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BRING THE PROCESS, BRING A SITE PLAN, AND WE, THE BOARD DON'T MAKE A DECISION.
WE TAKE IT DIRECTLY TO THE COMMUNITY.
THE COMMUNITY WAS IN AN APPROVAL WITH IT.
BUT I ALSO WANTED TO GO ONE STEP FURTHER.
I TOLD THIS GENTLEMAN, YOU'RE COMING INTO A VERY SMALL, VERY PASSIONATE COMMUNITY, HISTORICAL NEIGHBOR, LITTLE NOT, WE'RE IN THE HISTORICAL AREA, BUT IT'S STILL PASSIONATE.
AND SO, UH, HE BLOCK WALKED AND TALKED TO EVERY SINGLE HOUSE THAT'S GONNA BE FACING THAT PROPERTY.
AND THE NEIGHBORS DIDN'T MAKE IT VERY A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR THEY WERE NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT AT ALL.
UM, THAT, BUT HE DOES, HE IS VERY AWARE THAT THEY DO NOT WANT A LIQUOR OR A BAR THERE.
AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT, UH, THAT THEY DIDN'T MAKE CRYSTAL CLEAR.
AND HE IS AWARE THAT HE DID AGREE UPON THAT HE WOULD NOT PUT THAT THERE.
AND, UH, WE DID TELL HIM THAT IF HE DID COMMIT, WE WILL HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE AND WE WILL BE WATCHING EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE STAY ON TOP OF IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING TO THE VERY END.
UH, MOST OF THE COMMUNITY THERE, THAT COMMUNITY, UH, THAT PARTICULAR LOT HAD A LOT OF VAGRANTS, A LOT OF DRUGS.
YOU COULDN'T EVEN WALK ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING BUT NEEDLES EVERYWHERE.
UH, IT'S BEEN ABANDONED FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
THERE USED TO BE A, UM, UM, MOM AND POP, UM, OLD FASHIONED TYPE OF, UH, BUILDING TVS, THE OLD FASHIONED TVS.
AND THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY WAS SORT OF KIND OF SET BACK.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT HE'S ASKING OUT OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
THERE WAS ALREADY A TV SHOP THERE AND IT WAS SORT OF, KIND OF IN THE BACK AND THEY HAD PARKING SORT OF, KIND OF TOWARD IN THE FRONT.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW, HOW FAR UP, BUT THEY DID HAVE SOME.
SO THE GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE IS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, UH, EVERYBODY, EVERY SINGLE HOUSE THAT'S IN WITH THE 200 FEET WE'RE NOTIFIED.
UH, I WALKED THAT BLOCK WITH HIM JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT HE ADDRESSED TO THE, THE, TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORS AND ALL THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD, THAT THEY MET HIM FACE ON FACE, EYE TO EYE AND SAID, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.
THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SAY YOU'RE GONNA DO, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY MORE CHANGES AFTERWARDS.
SO THEREFORE WE TOOK IT TO A VOTE.
THE COMMUNITY TOOK IT TO VOTE AND THEY, THEY WERE APPROVAL OF IT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? OH, SO YOU ARE AWARE IF HE SELLS THAT PROPERTY AND SOMEBODY ELSE PICKS IT UP, THEY'RE ABLE TO PUT THOSE USES THAT YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF.
THE TIRE SHOP AND A LIQUOR STORE AND ALL THESE OTHER USES, OKAY.
BUT BECAUSE HE SELLS HIS PROPERTY AND NOW THAT ZONING AND C TWO, YOU'RE AWARE THAT THOSE, THOSE KIND OF USES CAN, CAN HAPPEN THEN? WELL, THE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT HE'S NOT GONNA SELL THE PROPERTY.
SO I'M HOPING THAT HE, HE COMPLIES AND HE'S TELLING US THE TRUTH THAT HE'S NOT GONNA SELL IT.
UM, THERE I, THERE'S, I GUESS THERE'S NO GUARANTEE IT'S ALWAYS A RISK TO, TO BE TAKEN.
BUT, UH, AT THIS POINT, UH, THERE IS A, THERE IS A STORE ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET THAT SELLS LIQUOR.
THERE'S A STORE RIGHT THERE IN THE CORNER THAT SELLS LIQUOR.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, BUT HOW YOU WOULD CHANGE THAT.
BUT, UM, THERE'S ALREADY, THERE'S A, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S CHILD SUPERMARKET EVERY SELLS LIQUOR THERE, AND IT'S IN A, PROBABLY NOT EVEN LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPERTY.
ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? THERE BEING NONE.
THEN WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ IN SUPPORT OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.
WILL STAFF DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
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COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.AND CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER GARCIA GOING TO SAY, YES.
NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
WE NEED A MOTION FROM THE, UH, PREVAILING SIDE TO RECONSIDER.
FIRST IT'S JUST A TYPICAL MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
THE MOTION IS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
AND RAMOS THE STAFF TO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
THERE'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
MS. GONZALEZ, YOU ARE THE FIRST.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? NO.
CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.
I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO DENY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
IS THAT CORRECT? 'CAUSE THERE'LL BE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE, I THINK WOULD BE APPLICANT'S REQUEST WOULD BE, YEAH.
OTHERWISE YOU'RE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S JUST BE A DOUBLE NEGATIVE, BUT A MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICANT'S, UH, REQUEST.
SO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER RAMOS.
THAT GOOD? WHO IS THE SECOND? OKAY.
AND NOW THE STAFF CAN DO THE ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? NO.
[8. 19-7450 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2019-11600065 (Council District 6): A request by Raul Ayarzagoitia, applicant, for approval of a Resolution to amend the West/Southwest Sector Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Suburban Tier" to "General Urban Tier" on Lot 14, Lot 15, Lot 29, and Lot 30, Block 12, NCB 16522, located at 6402 Tahoka Boulevard, 6406 Tahoka Boulevard, 6403 Marcum Drive, and 6407 Marcum Drive. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2019-10700223) (Mirko Maravi, Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS PLAN AMENDMENT.
UH, PA 20 19 1 1 6 0 0 6 5 LOCATED AT INTERSECTION OF HOKA BOULEVARD, MARKHAM DRIVE, AND ARVILLE AVENUE.
CHANGING THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER 26 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR WHEN IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE CABLE WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THAT IS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DE DESIGNATION AND ESTABLISHMENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY USE IS NOT SUITABLE FOR PREDOMINANTLY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS IT NOW AND THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE.
YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, ADDRESS IS 3 1 5 CYPRESS TRAIL, SAN AN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 6.
AND UH, WE ARE REAL ESTATE BROKERS.
WE OWN A COMPANY, AVENUE REALTY.
AND NOW WE'RE DOING IT, WE'RE COMING INTO A, COMING INTO A NEW VENTURE, ME AND MY WIFE, UH, PENELOPE
AND UH, UH, WE WERE LOOKING FOR LANDS AND WE CAME UP ABOUT WITH FOR THIS LAND, WHICH IS A ZONE C THREE.
AND BEFORE I WENT IN AND PUT THE MONEY DOWN TO BUY THE, THE LOT, I DID MY HOMEWORK AND, AND STARTED TALKING
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TO THE, WE STARTED GETTING THE NAMES OF THE, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PRESIDENT AND EVERYTHING.AND, AND FINALLY I GOT TO TALK TO HER AND SHE TOLD ME, LOOK, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE, WE WE'RE TIRED OF LIES.
PEOPLE THAT GO THERE AND DO WHAT THEY WANT.
WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE CAR SHOPS, MECHANICS, WAREHOUSES, BARS.
AND, AND MY, MY RESPONSE, WELL, WELL, LEMME TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT IS ZONED, THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN GET.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS DO A, A, A DUPLEX COMPLEX.
UM, AND UH, AND I'M TRYING TO MAXIMIZE OBVIOUSLY THE LOT.
AND THOSE FOUR LOTS TOGETHER WILL MAKE A VERY NICE DUPES COMPLEX.
AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT IS ACROSS FROM BLACKLAND AIR FORCE BASE AND MILITARY PEOPLE JUST COME HERE, STAY A COUPLE YEARS, THEN THEY LEAVE.
SO THIS'LL BE PERFECT FOR THEM.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M MAINLY, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.
UH, AND I ALSO WENT, WE ALSO, MY WIFE AND I ALREADY WENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AND THEY VOTED IN FAVOR OF OUR PROJECT.
WE, WE PRESENTED OUR PLANS AT, UH, PLANT, UH, PLANT SITE AND ALL, EVEN, UH, ANGIE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, SHE'S HERE RIGHT NOW TO TESTIFY THAT, UH, THEY DID APPROVE THE, OUR PROJECT AND ALSO DISTRICT SIX REP WAS THERE, UH, DURING THE MEETING.
AND THEY'RE BEING VERY HELPFUL AND ALSO APPROVE OUR, OUR PROJECT.
AND, UH, I DUNNO IF YOU CAN, COULD YOU PLEASE THE SLIDES FROM TAA.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE ONLY TWO LOTS.
SO EACH DUPLEX, SO EACH LOT WILL HAVE TWO UNITS.
SO TWO BUILDINGS, OBVIOUSLY FOUR UNITS.
SO OBVIOUSLY IF I WAS BUYING ONE LOT, THEY WILL KIND OF LOOK WEIRD THE WAY IT IS.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S TWO LOTS, IT WILL LOOK LIKE A LITTLE U LIKE A COMPLEX.
AND THE SAME THING WILL BE ON THE TOP PART.
ON THE TOP PART WILL BE ANOTHER, UH, 2, 4, 2 BUILDINGS.
FOUR BUILDINGS, WHICH IS ANOTHER, UH, EIGHT UNITS.
SO EACH UNIT IS THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATH, UH, APPROXIMATELY 1100 SQUARE FEET.
AND UH, AND WITH 10 PARKING SPACES.
AND, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UH, AND SHE'S BEEN TELLING ME THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DUMPING STUFF ALL THE TIME.
AND WHAT THEY WANT IS JUST TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE, DO SOMETHING NICE.
AND I THINK THIS WILL BE BRING, BRING UP THE VALUE OF THE, THE, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ALSO SHE LIVES ACROSS THOSE LOTS.
SO SHE SEES WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THOSE LOTS AND, AND SHE'S ACTUALLY REALLY WILLING TO SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND, AND DO SOMETHING NICE.
IT'S MORE OR LESS THE, THE, THE FRONT THE STREET, UH, WITH THE PARKING SPACES.
THAT'S THE, THE INSIDE THAT'S MORE OR LESS.
I DIDN'T PUT THE, THE, THE BUILDINGS ON THE OTHER TWO LOTS, BUT PRACTICALLY THAT'S GONNA BE A MIRROR ON THE OTHER, ON, ON THE TOP.
SO THERE'S EACH BILL, EACH LOT IS TWO BUILDINGS WITH FOUR UNITS EACH QUESTIONS.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, ANGELINA, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS EVANGELINA VCA AND I LIVE AT 64 15 TOKA.
AND UM, I LIVE IN THE AREA AND WE HAVE CONSTANT DUMPING IN THOSE LOTS IN FRONT ALL THE TIME.
I AM CONSTANTLY HAVING TO CALL, UH, 3 1 1 ONCE TO TWICE A WEEK AND WE'RE JUST TIRED OF IT.
SO I THINK IF SOMETHING IS BUILT THERE THAT WILL STOP SOME OF THE DUMPING THERE.
AND REALLY, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ABOUT WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
I AM WITH A CABLE WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE ALL PUT IT TO A VOTE AND WE ALL AGREED ON PASSING THE VOTE.
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THAT'S IT.UM, IF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
UM, SO MAINLY I GUESS WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO SAY THAT RIGHT NOW, C THREE, YOU'RE ANYTHING'S ALLOWED RIGHT THERE.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE IT TO MF 33 AND MAKE IT RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE WOULD PROBABLY STOP ANYBODY FROM JUST BUILDING SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORS PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT 'CAUSE MY HUSBAND FORGOT.
NEXT WE'LL GO ON TO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.
THIS TIME WE'LL START ON THE RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA.
QUESTIONS STAFF, UM, ON, I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING IN THE WORK SESSION ABOUT IT.
CAN, WE CAN PUT AN MF 18 CURRENTLY, IS THAT UNDER C THREE OR WHERE DID WE GET THAT FIGURE AT? MF 18 IS THE CURRENT, UM, IT'S A CURRENT ACCEPTABLE USE IN THE SUBURBAN TIER, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY CAN GO, THAT'S ONE OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT'S ALLOWED THERE.
AND THEN UNDER MF 18, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO GET? NINE.
SO THEY WANNA DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF UNITS? WELL, LESS THAN DOUBLE, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR 16 I BELIEVE.
IS THAT ADEQUATE? IS THAT ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THAT FOR THREE, TWO, THAT'S, SO THEY'RE DOING A MF 33, SO THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GIVE US A SITE PLAN TO REVIEW.
UM, FROM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR 16, THEY WOULD NEED ONE AND A HALF FOR PER UNIT.
SO THAT WOULD BE 24 PARKING SPOTS.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST HIS PLAN DOWN THE LINE.
UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S WHY I ASKED BECAUSE THAT 10 PARKING SP SPOTS CORRECT DID NOT LOOK LIKE FEASIBLE FOR THAT AMOUNT OF HOUSING.
AND I JUST WANT THE, THE CONSTITUENT THAT LIVES IN THAT AREA TO REALIZE THAT THAT PARKING PLAN IS NOT SUITABLE AND THAT, THAT MEANS PARKING WOULD PROBABLY INFILTRATE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND JUST TO BE AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PARKING FOR THAT AMOUNT OF UNITS AND PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIVE IN THOSE, UH, HOUSES.
SO 24 M UH, 33 REQUIRES ONE AND A HALF, SO IT'D BE 24 TOTAL.
BUT AGAIN, WE, WE HAVEN'T REVIEWED THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GIVE IT TO US.
I'M, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS RIGHT OFF OF TOHOKU ROAD, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY.
THERE'S, THERE'S TWO HOMES, THOSE ARE VACANT OR THAT'S PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT HE'S LOOKING AT.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE HINDERED IN THAT AREA.
SO THAT WAY WE CAN HEAR YOU ON THE AUDIO LADY.
ARE THOSE HOUSES THERE BELONGS TO MY MOTHER.
MOTHER AND THE EMPTY LOT RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS MINE, SO I DON'T INTEND TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT AT THIS POINT.
AND, AND SO BOTH YOU AND YOUR MOTHER BEING RIGHT NEXT TO AT LEAST 16 RESIDENCE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, UHHUH,
I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UM, IF THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO GET SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT FROM THE ADDITIONAL NEIGHBOR FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES, WOULD THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENT? IT, WELL, AS FAR AS ZONING, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
'CAUSE AGAIN, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO, UH, TURN IN THIS SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW FOR US BECAUSE HE IS ASKING FOR MF 33, NOT A CONDITIONAL USE FOR SPECIFIC USE OR EVEN I D Z.
UH, BUT I BELIEVE, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A THING DURING BUILDING PLANS, IS THAT RIGHT? SO, UM, THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN THE PARKING LAYOUT WOULD BE REVIEWED DURING THE, UM, BUILDING PERMIT
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STAGE.UM, BUT NOW THAT WE DO HAVE A SITE PLAN WE'RE RUNNING, WE'RE GONNA RUN IT BY OUR TRAFFIC GROUP.
UH, BECAUSE I THINK I'M, I'M CONCERNED WITH ALL HEAD-IN PARKING ON, UH, TOHOKU ROAD.
USUALLY YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT LEADS TO A PARKING LOT TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BACKING OUT.
UM, SO WE'LL HAVE OUR TRAFFIC GUYS REVIEW THAT SO THAT WAY THEY CAN DETERMINE IF THEY, YOU GUYS NEED TO MAKE SOME SITE PLAN.
UM, I GUESS RECONFIGURATIONS FOR MEETING YOUR MINIMUM PARKING.
THERE ARE WAYS TO MEET MINIMUM PARKING, UM, THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S A COOPERATIVE PARKING AGREEMENT OR A WAIVER OF PARKING THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PROCESS.
BUT THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO MEET IT.
BUT ALL OF THAT WOULD BE DONE DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT STAGE OF THE PROCESS.
SO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS BY CODE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S OTHER, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THAT AND THAT GETS MET, THAT HAPPENS LATER.
AND THE TRAFFIC REVIEW, THE PORTION THAT'S THE REVIEW OF PARKING BY TRAFFIC AND THE, THAT'S NOT A LAND USAGE KIND OF ISSUE THEN? NOT FOR THIS, NO.
THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS.
WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS THAT IF A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT CAN'T MEET ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THEY MAY COME DOWN ON DENSITY IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UM, I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT I DON'T, UM, CAT THE, UH, IS THERE A SOMETHING IN THE CODE THAT PROHIBITS THE HEAD END PARKING OR IS THAT, SO WOULD THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE FOR THIS CONFIGURATION OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT YET, WHICH IS WHY I'M GONNA HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING GROUP LOOK AT THIS SITE PLAN NOW THAT WE'VE SEEN IT.
UM, I THINK IT, ALL OF THIS IS COVERED IN ARTICLE FIVE.
I'M NOT THE EXPERT IN ARTICLE FIVE, WHICH IS WHY I'M GONNA RELY ON KEVIN'S TEAM.
UH, BUT I BELIEVE IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE ROAD.
UM, BUT I, IT'S JUST THIS HAS CONCERNS FOR ME, WHICH IS WHY I WANNA RUN IT BY THEM SO THEY'RE AWARE OF IT NOW IN THE PROCESS.
I I THINK YOU JUST ANSWERED THE, THE QUESTION, BUT WOULD THIS BE WORTHWHILE ON ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE IN FIGURING OUT THOSE ANSWERS TO HELP US MAKE OUR DECISION? OR WOULD IT STILL BE IRRELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE OVERSEEING? RIGHT.
PARKING IS JUST A, IS ONE OF THE STANDARDS THAT IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
WE'RE RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU'RE FOCUSED ON IS LAND USE.
UM, SO I DO HAVE, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION.
SO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE ZONING WOULD BE MF 33.
SO THAT'S ONLY RESIDENTIAL USE.
BASICALLY MULTI-FAMILY USAGE, RIGHT? THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL THEY'RE GONNA, AND THEN THE WHAT ABOUT WITH WHAT OTHER ZONING WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE, WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR SUBURBAN? WHAT'S THE LAND USAGE CATEGORY WE'RE ASKING FOR? YEAH, THEY'RE ASKING FOR GENERAL URBAN TIER VERSUS SUBURBAN TIER.
WELL, IF THEY WERE TO, IF THERE WAS TO BE A REZONING THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING COMMISSION AGAIN.
SO, UH, IF, UM, SO AGAIN, M F 18 IS ONE OF THE CONSISTENT ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN SUBURBAN TIER.
WITHOUT HAVING, SO THEY COULD REQUEST MF 18 THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS WITHOUT CHANGING THE LAND USE.
BUT THEY NEED MORE DENSITY TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHY THEY NEED THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO HAVE THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY.
THE, THERE ARE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL URBAN TIER, BUT REZONING WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR, THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR IN ORDER TO GET ANY OF THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS.
WERE YOU MEETING, OH, DOES, UM, ANY COMMISSIONS HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? IF THERE BEING NONE, THEN ONCE YOU TURN A MOTION, I PROPOSED, UH, SUPPORTING THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER UCH STAFFING THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
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TORN ON THIS ONE.YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, BUT I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH ALLOWING THE ENCROACHMENT OF THE GENERAL URBAN TIER INTO THE SUBURBAN TIER WHEN THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ELSE BUT SUBURBAN TIER ANYWHERE NEARBY.
NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER RAMOS.
AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
WHY NOT
OKAY, SO NOW WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, TO ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED PLAN.
IT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FROM COMMISSIONER RO REI.
SECOND AND A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ A.
CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER RO EG.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
UH, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? THE DESIGNATION OF SUBURBAN TIER, WHEN, HOW LONG IS THAT? WHEN WAS THAT DESIGNATED SUBURBAN TIER? IS THAT LIKE A NEW, WAS THAT ONE OF THE NEW PLANS? SO IT'S ONLY BEEN LIKE LAST WEEK? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN THERE SINCE FOREVER WHEN THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN 20 10, 20 11, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
AND IS THAT AREA SUBJECT TO A PROPOSED PLAN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS THAT YES.
MIGHT CHANGE THE WAY THIS IS? YES.
AND THERE'S ANY INDICATION ON WHAT THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT AT THIS STAGE, IS IT? NO, NOT AT THIS STAGE.
IS IT PASSED? WE ALL CHANGED OUR MIND TWICE DURING THE VOTE.
OKAY, SO THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
[10. 19-7171 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2019-11600070 (Council District 5): A request by Esequiel Campos, applicant, for approval of a Resolution to amend the Nogalitos/South Zarzamora Community Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Low Density Residential” to "Neighborhood Commercial” on 0.157 acres out of NCB 8965, located at 815 Brighton Avenue. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2019-10700230) (Patricia Franco, Planner, (210) 207-5876, patricia.Franco@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
NEXT ON THE AGENDA WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 10.WE CAN'T COME UP TO ANY DECISION.
GOOD AFTERNOON, PATRICIA FRANCO ZONING ITEM 10 IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE NATOS SOUTH SMO COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT EIGHT 15 BRIGHTON AVENUE.
22 NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THE AREA.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS A REQUEST TO, IN ORDER TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE.
THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH ALTO SOUTH AS AMODA.
COMMUNITY PLANS CALL FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES SUCH AS SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS WITH OR WITHOUT ATTACHED OR DETACHED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS SUCH AS GRANNY FLATS, GARAGE APARTMENTS, AND ELDER CO ELDER COTTAGE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY UNITS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
IS THE APPLICANT READY? GO AHEAD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 7 0 5 FM 27 90 IN LIDO, TEXAS.
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THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS FOR SALE AND TO ME IT'S A PERFECT LOCATION FOR A SMALL CAR LOT THAT, THAT'S THE BUSINESS I'M IN NOW.UH, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS, UH, TO COME AROUND WITH, WHICH I DIDN'T EXPECT TO FOR IT TO COME AROUND, BUT, UH, THIS ONE DID COME UP, WHICH WAS, UH, I WAS ABLE TO, UM, BUY IT WITH, UH, HELP FROM THE FAMILY MEMBERS AND, AND SOME OF MY OWN MONEY, BUT I DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE AN OPPOSITION LIKE THIS.
UH, THE NEIGHBORS THAT I SPOKE TO AROUND, UH, ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY, UH, HAVE NO OPPOSITION ON IT.
UH, IN FACT THEY, THEY REALLY DON'T MIND, UH, SMALL CAR LOT NEXT TO THEM.
UH, IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG.
I I REALLY DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY, UH, EXCEPT THAT IT'S RIGHT ON THE ACCESS ROAD OF 35 SOUTH, WHICH IS TO ME A PERFECT SPOT FOR A SMALL CAR LOT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WOULD BE DONE ON THIS LOT 'CAUSE IT'S REAL SMALL.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR ME TO, TO DO WHAT I WANNA DO AND THEN FOR IT TO BE USED FOR SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR SO LONG.
UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT OF COURSE THERE WAS NOTHING, THERE'S NOTHING ON IT RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS BUILDINGS EXCEPT FOR ONE TREE.
NEXT WE'LL GO INTO CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGN UP TO SPEAK.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS E CAMPOS.
AND THE SECOND IS CHRISTINA CANTU NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE RECORD.
I LIVE 8 47 BRIGHTON, HALF A BLOCK AWAY FROM THIS PROPERTY.
IT HASN'T BEEN IN USE FOR MORE THAN 47 YEARS.
UM, I OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE, UM, IT'S VERY SMALL.
I, AS IT IS, PEOPLE THAT TURN IN THERE, TURN IN CRAZY TO HAVE A PARKING LOT, A CAR LOT THERE WOULD BE NOT GOOD FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S A LOT OF CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY RIGHT ACROSS FROM HIM, THAT HOUSE RIGHT THERE THAT'S FULL OF CHILDREN AND THERE'S CHILDREN UP AND DOWN, OLDER PEOPLE TO HAVE A CAR LOT.
THERE'S NOT WHAT WE NEED, HONESTLY.
AND THE VACANT LOT THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY ACROSS TREES IS WHAT WE NEED.
WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER CAR LOT.
THERE'S TWO DOWN THE ROAD FROM HIM, TWO ACROSS THE STREET, ALL DOWN 35 SOUTH.
ALL THE CARS THAT HE COMES AND GOES THAT HE BRINGS TO SELL WOULD BE ON OUR STREET DOWN AND, AND THEN HE'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO FIX 'EM.
AND I DON'T, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, IT'S VERY SMALL.
AND IF I NEED TO, I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS WOULD SIGN UP AND OPPOSE TOO.
THEY DON'T, UM, THEY'RE NOT, SOME OF THEM ARE OLDER, SOME OF 'EM ARE ARE, ARE SPANISH SPEAKING.
SO I CAN TALK TO ALL OF 'EM AND I KNOW THAT THEY WOULD OPPOSE THIS.
WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER CAR LOT.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOOK ON THE HIGHWAY.
CAN YOU PUT IT TO WHERE THE HIGHWAY COMES OUT, THE HIGHWAY'S, RIGHT? THERE'S THE EXIT.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA COME IN? THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE OUR STREET TO COME IN TO COME TO HIS BUSINESS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED THERE.
WE REALLY, REALLY LIVE HALF A BLOCK AWAY.
THIS IS WHAT I WANT FOR MYSELF, FOR MY NEIGHBORS, FOR ALL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT LIVE CLOSE TO ANY MAJOR HIGHWAY.
THE TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING IS HORRIFIC.
IF YOU GO DOWN 35, NOT EVEN TWO BLOCKS, THERE'S A CAR LOT, UH, UNLIMITED TRUCK AND THEN YOU GO, THERE'S ALSO GRANDE ALSO.
WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER CAR LOT.
WE HAVE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, JUST A SECOND BLOCK DOWN FROM THERE.
IT, IT'S A COMMUNITY, IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS AFFECTS CHANGING FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENT TO ALL OF US.
NOT ONLY AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC 30 SECONDS, BUT THE, HE HAS TO BRING IN CARS.
WHERE IS HE GONNA PARK THEM WHEN HE, WHILE HE FIXES THEM.
UM, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS ANYTHING? MY ENTRANCE FOR THE, FOR THE PARKING LOT, FIRST OF ALL WON'T BE ON BRIGHTON.
IT WILL BE ON, ON THE PANAM EXPRESSWAY.
UH, I, I DON'T SEE MYSELF, UH, THE LADY, I, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND SHE'S CONCERNED, BUT, UH, I I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS WITH, WITH KIDS OR WITH SCHOOLS OR WITH, WITH ANYTHING REALLY.
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THAT, UH, THAT IS NOW HAPPENING ON 35, WOULD I, I'M NOT GONNA ADD TO THAT.UM, THE STATE REQUIRES SPACE FOR FIVE VEHICLES OR MORE.
UM, THE BUILDING THAT I'M REQUIRED IS A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET IS GONNA BE A REAL SMALL BUILDING.
I'M, I'M THINKING OF A MAYBE A 12 BY 20, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT AS, I DON'T EAT NOTHING BIG, INCLUDING THE LOT, BUT YOU CAN PROBABLY PUT ON THIS CAR LOT, UH, UH, MAYBE 20 VEHICLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I, THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE FOR, FOR THE CAR LOT.
LIKE I SAID, THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES LICENSING REQUIRES ONLY FIVE PARKING SPACES OR FIVE OR FIVE CARS TO FIT ON THE LOT.
AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, THE ENTRANCE, LIKE I SAID, WOULD BE OFF OF THE PANAM.
UH, PEOPLE THAT WOULD WERE TO COME TO MY LOT WOULD HAVE TO GO.
IT'S A ONE-WAY STREET, SO YOU CAN ONLY COME, UH, FROM DIVISION TO GET TO MY LOT.
IF YOU GET HAPPEN TO GET OFF ON THE EXIT, WHICH IS, IT IS RIGHT IN FRONT, YOU ALREADY, YOU CAN'T GO TO MY LOT FROM THERE.
SO YOU GO STRAIGHT AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND THE BLOCK, UH, AROUND THE ACCESS ROAD ALL THE WAY AROUND AND TO COME BACK FROM THE DIVISION SIDE TO GET TO THE LOT.
SO I, I, I DON'T SEE, SEE ANY ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC OR I MEAN THE, EVERYBODY KNOWS 35 IS ALREADY FULL OF TRAFFIC AND I'M NOT GONNA POLLUTE THE AIR WITH BECAUSE OF ME.
THEY'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE PROBLEMS. UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST GONNA BE REAL SMALL.
I I, I DON'T SEE ANY, I, AND I UNDERSTAND THE LADY'S CONCERN, BUT THIS IS GONNA BE SMALL.
AND, UM, THERE'S CAR LOTS ALL OVER THE, THE ACCESS ROAD ALREADY.
I KNOW THAT, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THERE'S TWO, THREE, I THINK THREE.
ONE OF 'EM, I DON'T CONSIDER A CAR LOT, BUT THERE'S THREE TOTAL AND THERE'S SPACE, YOU KNOW, APART.
I TALKED TO MS. CAMPA RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO, TO THE LOT.
I TALKED TO MS. BUSANTE RIGHT BEHIND THE LOT.
I DIDN'T GET THE OTHER NAMES OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY WELCOMING ME, WELCOMING MY TYPE OF A BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY SEE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY PROBLEMS THAT, THAT THE LADY WAS TALKING ABOUT.
I, I DON'T SEE REALLY, UH, ANY ISSUES WITH WHAT SHE SAID AND I WOULD NOT BE CREATING PROBLEMS ON PURPOSE FOR SURE.
AND I DON'T THINK BY HAVING THIS, IT WOULD CREATE EXTRA, EXTRA PROBLEMS. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.
WE'LL START ON THE LEFT WITH COMMISSIONER MARTINEZ.
SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT BUFFER YARDS OR BUFFER SPACE ON THESE DOCK POPULAR THOROUGHFARE.
AND WOULD THAT LIMIT THE USE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? IF THE PROPOSAL WERE TO BE APPROVED AND THE C ONE ZONING WERE TO BE ACQUIRED, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH A TYPE B, WHICH IS A 15 FOOT DEEP LANDSCAPE BUFFER YARD ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE WHERE IT ABUTS THE SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL AS THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE.
YEAH, IT, IT'S, IT CERTAINLY WOULD NOT REQUIRE A BUFFER YARD ALONG BRIGHTON.
WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT NOW FOR ALONG THE, UH, ROAD.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
THE FRONT MIGHT BE BUFFER YARD WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING 30, 30 FEET OF WIDTH ON THAT PROPERTY.
WELL, HE'S GOT 15 FEET, 15 FEET, 15 FEET LI UH, ON THE ENTIRE THREE SIDES LIMITATION.
I CAN PUT A, A 2200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IN THERE WITH A COUPLE OF CARS.
IF, IF THE PROPOSAL WERE TO BE APPROVED, HE WOULD HAVE A NUMBER OF PROBABLE VARIANCES REQUIRED BEFORE ANY DEVELOPMENT COULD BE AUTHORIZED.
NO QUESTIONS? UH, NO QUESTIONS.
JUST SOME OBSERVATIONS AND A COMMENT I SUPPOSE.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, AGAIN, CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENCROACHMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL INTO AN AREA THAT'S COMPLETELY LOW RESIDENTIAL, UH, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON THAT SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.
UM, AND THEN LOOKING AT THE, UH, GEOMETRICS OF THE THING, I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T SEE A CAR A LOT ON THE THING.
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ISSUES, UM, DEALING WITHAM I PAYING JOB? I, UH, I ALMOST CAN GUARANTEE THEY WON'T GIVE YOU A DRIVEWAY ACCESS OFF OF 35 IN THAT LOCATION DUE TO THE PROXIMITY WITH THE OFF RAMP.
UM, I JUST SEE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS AND I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE, UH, MS. CANTU WHO SPOKE ABOUT, UH, TRAFFIC AND, AND JUST ENCROACHMENT IN GENERAL.
AND, UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO UPHOLD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PECK, A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER RAMOS.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ONE MORE COMMENT.
THANK YOU FOR COMING TO SPEAK AND TAKING THE TIME TO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS.
THERE BEING NO MORE COMMISSIONER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, UH, FOR DISCUSSION AND STAFF TO THE ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
COMMISSIONER ROYAL LAG GREENY? YES.
CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? UH, I'M GOING TO VOTE.
I AGREE WITH THE, THE COMMENTS YOU HEARD EARLIER ABOUT THE ENCROACHMENT OF THE PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL INTO THE LOAD, RE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
[11. 19-7449 Consideration and Action on the Minutes from September 25, 2019]
THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE PAST MEETING.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR, UH, CHANGES TO THE MEETING? MINUTES? THERE BEING NONE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE MEETING MINUTES? MOTION FOR MICHAEL GARCIA.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
CAN WE DO A SHOW OF HANDS FOR THAT ONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? MEETING MINUTES ARE DONE.
[Director’s Report: Planning Commission Meeting November 27, 2019 update.]
ANY DIRECTOR'S REPORT OR STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? JUST, JUST A REMINDER.SO TIME WE, UH, CANCEL THE SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER, WHICH WAS CHRISTMAS WEEK.
HOWEVER, WE DID KEEP THE, UM, TWO MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER.
ONE IS THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
'CAUSE WE HAD EVERY INDICATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE THAN A QUORUM PRESENT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND ALL OF YOU THAT WE ARE STILL HAVING OUR FULL TWO MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER.
SO WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD BE HERE EXCEPT FOR ONE PERSON, I THINK.
HAVE WE PASSED THE, THE DEADLINE FOR NOTICES AND ALL THAT FOR THAT NOVEMBER 27TH MEETING? YES.
SO WE'RE DOING IT DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING, WE'RE DOING IT.
AND IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, STAFF PROMISE TO BRING EGGNOG? YES.
AND AFTER THE MEETING, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THE MAKEUP OF THAT EGG NUT.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OF THAT NATURE? OH, YES.
DID WE HAVE CHANGES FOR DECEMBER MEETING? THE SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER WAS CANCELED.
OH, THE, THE 25TH ON CHRISTMAS DAY.
I WASN'T PLANNING ON BEING HERE.
I WAS HOPING Y'ALL WEREN'T EITHER, BUT YOU KNOW.
IT IS 3 0 7 MEETING ADJOURNED.