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WOULD STAFF PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER BUSER MONTE? HERE.
CAN WE GET THE SPANISH ENGLISH INTERPRETER PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
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OKAY.UH, TODAY WE'LL HAVE TWO AGENDAS.
WE'LL HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
CASES THAT ARE PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CASES WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT REQUIRE FURTHER DETAILED DISCUSSION AND NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAS SIGNED TO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
EVERYTHING ON CONSENT WILL BE READ INTO THE RECORD IN ONE UNIFIED MOTION.
IF SOMEONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, IT WILL BE PLACED ON INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA.
SECOND AGENDA IS THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA.
THOSE CASES WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY BEFORE A MOTION IS CONSIDERED.
SO RIGHT NOW, UM, SO WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER OREN NEEDS TO RECUSE FROM ITEM SIX.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE NEEDS TO RECUSE FROM ITEM 11.
THOSE TWO WILL STAY ON CONSENT AND THOSE TWO CAN EXIT THE ROOM.
UH, THE ONLY THING ON INDIVIDUAL IS ITEM 13.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
IT IS 2 0 2 AND COMMISSIONER ORIEN AND COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE HAVE LEFT THE MEETING.
SO WE WILL MOVE ON WITH CONSENT AGENDA IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR A MOTION.
I MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA.
A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
AND I THINK THE SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER SIEGEL.
SOMEONE PLEASE LET THE TWO COMMISSIONERS KNOW THEY CAN COME BACK.
IT IS 2 0 2 AND COMMISSIONER ORIAN AND COMMISSIONER BUSANTE HAVE ENTERED THE MEETING.
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UM, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 13.CLAYTON WALLACE INTERIM PLANNING OR PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE CAMP BOLUS EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, MILITARY PROTECTION LAND USE PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT 88 60 CROSS MOUNT TRAIL.
THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED SEVEN IN SUPPORT, TWO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET OUTSIDE.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW FOR AN OUTDOOR EVENT.
THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER LAND USES IN THE AREA.
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS INTENDED TO BE LOCATED IN PROXIMITY TO MAJOR INTER INTERSECTIONS AND ALONG EXISTING COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL, A LOCAL ROAD AND IS ADJACENT TO AND WITHIN EXCLUSIVELY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
WHILE THE EVENT VENUE ITSELF COULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S THE OTHER USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NO WAY TO LIMIT THE SPECIFIC USE THROUGH ZONING.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUEST JBSA HAS REVIEWED FOR CONDITION.
IT'S DETRIMENTAL TO THEIR ONGOING MISSION AND DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT AND HAS PROVIDED, UM, THEIR STANDARD COMMENTS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN THE MLOD STAFF RECOMMENDS TO MILE AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM? DO I HAVE CONTROL? YEAH.
EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE, SUITE TWO 50 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, WHO ARE ALSO HERE.
RICO AND GENEVIEVE ARE ALSO HERE WITH US, SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM, UM, THEY'RE HERE.
UM, SO YES, AS STAFF MENTIONED, THIS PROPERTY IS AT 88 60 CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL.
UM, THIS, I REALLY LIKE THIS AERIAL IMAGE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE BERNIE STAGE ROAD TO THE EAST SCENIC LOOP TO THE WEST CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL GOES ACROSS AND CONNECTS BETWEEN THE TWO.
UM, THIS PROPERTY, UM, THIS EIGHT AND A HALF ACRE PROPERTY
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IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY OUT HERE ACROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH, WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IS EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES.UM, YOU CAN SEE IN STARK CONTRAST TO GOODNIGHT LOVING CENTRAL PRAIRIE UP MOUNTAIN ROAD WHERE THOSE ARE REALLY DEFINED, VERY OBVIOUS CONCENTRATIONS OF RESIDENTIAL AND THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU HAVE IN AND AROUND.
UM, WHERE THIS ACTUAL PROPERTY IS LOCATED, THIS IS A ZOOMED IN AERIAL.
THIS IS AN EXISTING MICRO WEDDING VENUE.
UM, IT'S BEEN AN OPERATION FOR OVER A YEAR.
UM, WHEN THE OWNERS STARTED THIS, THEY WERE TOLD BY THE COUNTY THAT IF THEY WERE RESIDENTS OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH THEY ARE, THEY LIVE AND OWN THERE, UM, THAT THIS WAS NOT COMMERCIAL.
THAT NARRATIVE HAS CHANGED AND HERE WE ARE.
UM, SO, BUT UM, THIS IS THE MICRO VENUE RIGHT HERE.
UM, THIS IS THEIR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH THEIR FAMILY AT ADAMS CROSSING AND CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL.
UM, OUR PLAN AMENDMENT DOES NOT INCLUDE THEIR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, SO IT'S JUST FOR THE EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES, NOT THE TOTAL 11 THAT THEY OWN, BUT JUST THE EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES WITH THE MICRO VENUE ON IT.
UH, THIS IS ANOTHER AERIAL IMAGE, UM, AS STAFF ENGINE.
THERE IS NO ZONING HERE, WHICH LIMITS OUR OPTIONS ON WHAT WE CAN AT REQUEST.
UM, BUT UM, LET ME SCOOCH FORWARD.
THIS IS THE PLAN AMENDMENT MAP.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE CAMP BULLIS ETJ MILITARY PROTECTION AREA PLAN.
THIS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO A SECTOR PLAN OR A COMMUNITY PLAN OR A REGIONAL CENTER AREA PLAN.
THIS IS A VERY LIMITED SCOPE PLAN AMENDMENT TIED TO THE PROTECTION OF THE MILITARY'S MISSION.
UM, NOT HERE TO ARGUE THAT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS INAPPROPRIATE.
UM, WE ARE HAVING TO ASK FOR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THAT IS OUR ONLY OPTION TO ALLOW THE EXISTING VENUE THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR OVER A YEAR WITHOUT ISSUE TO REMAIN IN OPERATION.
UM, YOU CAN SEE JUST TO THE EAST, UM, THESE ARE VERY LARGE PARCELS.
THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF ZOOMED OUT.
UM, THERE'S URBAN MIXED USE IN THE AREA.
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS OUR ONLY OPTION.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH OTHER USES THAT MAY BE PERMITTED UNDER COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF CONCERNS ABOUT USES THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED OTHERWISE.
AN OUTDOOR LIVE MUSIC VENUE, A BAR, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CAN'T BE PERMITTED WITH EITHER DESIGNATION ON THE TABLE TODAY.
UM, BUT WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY ON RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S OUTSIDE OF YOUR PURVIEW, BUT THAT IS OUR ONLY FUNCTIONAL WAY TO LIMIT THOSE USES AND WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LIMIT THOSE USES AND TAKE THOSE LESS DESIRED USES OFF THE TABLE.
SO, UH, THE VIDEO 88, UM, IS THE EXISTING MICRO WEDDING VENUE.
MICRO VENUE MEANING LESS THAN A HUNDRED PEOPLE INDOORS, 120 TOTAL CAPACITY.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 2,600 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR SPACE, 1500 SQUARE FEET OF COVERED SPACE.
THIS IS A VERY SMALL, VERY CONTROLLED, UH, VERY LIMITED VENUE.
IT HAS BEEN AN OPERATION FOR OVER A YEAR WITHOUT ISSUE.
UM, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE.
UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER WEDDING VENUES IN AND AROUND THE AREA, UM, WITH IMPORTANCE NOTING YOU CAN SEE VENUE 88 UP HERE AT THE NORTH.
UM, THE DIVIDE AT SCENIC LOOP AND B, EXCUSE ME, BABCOCK, THE VILLA AT SIERRA VISTA, LAS CIDA, THE SCENIC SPRINGS.
AND I NOTE THESE BECAUSE THESE ARE ALSO IN AREAS THAT HAVE NEARBY RESIDENTS, UM, AND THAT THEY'RE OPERATIONAL.
THIS IS A VERY, VERY SMALL VENUE.
UM, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT.
UM, WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE.
SO, UM, REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS OUR ONLY OPTION.
UM, THAT IS THE LEAST INTENSE OPTION THAT WE CAN ASK FOR TO ALLOW THE VENUE TO CONTINUE OPERATING.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A, UM, A PLAN AMENDMENT IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE.
THERE IS NO ZONING ATTACHED TO IT.
THIS IS VERY, VERY SPECIFIC TO THE CITY'S AUTHORITY TO REGULATE LAND USE WITH RESPECT IN FIVE MILES OF THE MILITARY BASE.
UM, AND BEFORE I REALLY GET TO THIS, IS THAT MAP AGAIN.
UM, RICO AND GENEVIEVE HAVE DONE A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS, UM, AND REALLY FOCUSED ON THE FOLKS THAT ARE MOST IN DIRECT PROXIMITY TO THE PROPERTY MOST IMMEDIATELY IMPACTED BY THE VENUE.
UM, AND WE HAVE THAT SUPPORT AROUND US.
SO THE CITY'S AUTHORITY, UM, THIS IS FROM THE 2017 LEGISLATURE.
CITY'S AUTHORITY IS LIMITED TO CONTROLLING LAND USE IN THE ETJ WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THE BASE IN PROTECTION OF THE MILITARY'S MISSION, UM, AND THE MILITARY INSTALLATION.
THE VOTERS IN THIS AREA HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ANNEXED WHERE ZONING WOULD BE IN PLAY CITY WOULD HAVE FULL AUTHORITY, UM, OR HAVE THESE MILITARY LAND USE CONTROLS IN PLACE.
UM, AND THE CODE IS VERY CLEAR THAT WHAT THE PARAMETERS OF THIS PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, AND THESE LAND USE CONTROLS ARE IN ORDER TO PROTECT A MILITARY MISSION.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS HARD TO TAKE OFF THE HAT, UH, OF TRADITIONAL PLANNING, TRADITIONAL ZONING AND LOOK AT THIS.
UM, BUT THIS IS GOVERNED BY THE JOINT LAND USE STUDY, UM, BY CAMP BULLIS, UM, WHICH IS DONE TO IDENTIFY,
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ADDRESS AND RESOLVE ENCROACHMENT ISSUES WITH THE MILITARY AND CIVILIAN TO PREVENT, UM, IRRESPONSIBLE GROWTH.MAKE SURE INCOMPATIBLE USES ARE NOT THERE.
UM, THIS IS, THESE APPLICATIONS CANNOT MOVE FORWARD BEFORE YOU GUYS, WITHOUT A-J-B-S-A RESPONSE.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, WITHOUT A-J-B-S-A RESPONSE OF NO OBJECTION WOULDN'T BE HERE IF J-B-J-B-S-A HAD AN OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST.
JBSA DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS REQUEST.
UM, EVEN IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT MENTIONS INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES, UM, IN THE VICINITY OF JBSA ARE MINIMIZED IN ORDER TO SAFEGUARD OPERATION, OPERATIONAL, MILITARY, UM, MISSION REQUIREMENTS.
UM, IT'S A VERY LIMITED SCOPE.
UM, WE WOULD ASK FOR SOMETHING LESS INTENSE IF WE COULD.
UM, WE ARE HAPPY TO RESTRICT THOSE LESS THAN DESIRED USES ON THE PROPERTY, UM, AND LIMIT IT JUST TO THE VENUE THAT ALREADY EXISTS AND HAS BEEN IN OPERATION FOR A YEAR.
UM, BUT RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT IN LINE WITH JBSA IN LINE WITH THEIR JOINT LAND USE STUDY, UM, AND IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S AUTHORITY TO REGULATE LAND USE HERE.
UM, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY, WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
UM, FIRST ON THE LIST IS SHEILA MIRA.
UM, YES, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I'M SHEILA GOMEZ AND I LIVE IN EAST RANGE.
UM, THE REASON MOST PEOPLE MOVED OUT OF THE CITY, MA'AM, CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS? ADDRESS? JUST YOUR, OH, SORRY.
WE MOVED THERE I THINK 22, 23 YEARS AGO.
MOST PEOPLE MOVED OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY LOVE, THEY LOVE THE LAY OF THE LAND.
THEY LOVE THE QUIETNESS, THE BEAUTY OF THE LANDSCAPES, THE, THE BIRDS, THE, THE NATURE THAT YOU CAN SEE.
THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UH, WE DON'T REQUEST LIGHTS ON THE STREETS AT NIGHT, MEANS WE CAN SEE THE SKY AT NIGHT, WHICH IS GETTING LESS AND LESS EVERY TIME YOU BUILD COMMERCIAL THINGS OR ANYTHING.
UM, THE RIM, WE LOST A LOT OF THAT, LIKE AN, WE LOST ALSO A LOT OF THAT.
UM, I, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE THIS THIS THING, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING.
WE, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A NON-ENTRY.
YOU CAN'T GO IN AND OUT, BUT YOU ARE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS VENUE AND I THIS VENUE WHICH IS GONNA HAVE MAYBE, UM, A, A LIQUOR STORE IT SAID, OR A SHOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE AREA.
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT, GREAT DEAL OF VOLUME COMING IN.
YOU ARE GONNA HAVE LOTS OF EXTRA NOISE.
UM, WE ARE A, WE WE'RE A SMALL COMMUNITY.
PEOPLE, PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS ALONG THE ROAD.
I CAN SEE PEOPLE RUSHING INTO THE LIQUOR STORE TO GET SOMETHING FOR THEIR EVENING ENTERTAINMENT.
HAVE I DONE THREE MINUTES? I SO THE LIGHTING, THE NOISE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHEN PEOPLE START BUILDING ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THEY BUILD MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
AND IT DOESN'T JUST STAY AT THAT.
HOW CAN WE BE SURE THAT THAT'S GONNA JUST STAY IN THAT AREA AND THE REST OF US LIVING IN THE LOW DENSITY, OUR HOUSING WILL BE LEFT IN PEACE.
THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT WE MOVED OUT HERE FOR.
AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT.
JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UH, I'VE LIVED IN CROSS MOUNTAIN FOR 37 YEARS AND NO PLANS ON MOVING.
I WAS PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THE DISTANT PAST.
I'VE WITNESSED THE GROWTH OF CROSS MOUNTAIN AND ESPECIALLY THE AREA SURROUNDING CROSS MOUNTAIN.
CROSS MOUNTAIN IS A QUIET COMMUNITY AND HAS BEEN A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND RAISE OUR FAMILY.
I STRONGLY OBJECT TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO ME.
CROSS MOUNTAIN IS A RURAL COMMUNITY WITH ONE TO THREE ACRE LOTS WITH, UH, LOW DENSITY.
99% OF THE HOMES ARE SURROUNDED BY OTHER HOMES, ALTHOUGH THERE'S ROUGHLY JUST A 100 YARD SECTION, UH, OF NON CROSS MOUNTAIN PROPERTY BORDER AND CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL.
THIS 100 YARDS IS MAINLY USED FOR ENTRANCES TO OTHER PRIVATE HOMES, NOT LEGALLY IN CROSS MOUNTAIN.
HOWEVER, YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO RUN COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WITHIN, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES.
THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW HOA RULES, BUT BASED UPON THE PROXIMITY OF THE RE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND ON MANY SIDES SHOULD NOT DEVIATE TO THE EXTENT OF WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED.
THE AREA CANNOT TOLERATE EVENT VENUES, OIL CHANGE, LUBES TIRE CELLS, WHICH IS THE CATEGORY THAT
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THEY'RE REQUESTING.THIS WOULD DESTROY THE COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENT LEAD TO DIMINISH PROPERTY VALUES AND BE DANGEROUS AS, AS NOTED BELOW, ESSENTIALLY ALL THE HOMEOWNERS IN CROSS MOUNTAIN LIVE OFF OF A WATER WELL.
UH, WE'VE BEEN IN A DROUGHT FOR THE PAST MANY YEARS.
I'VE LEARNED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, A NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS WHOSE WELLS HAVE GONE DRY AND HAD TO DRILL NEW WELLS.
SOME ARE STILL TRUCKING IN WATER FROM THE OUTSIDE AT $600 A WEEK, UH, TO FILL THE STORAGE TANKS.
IT'S MY ASSUMPTION THAT THIS PROPERTY IN QUESTION ALSO OPERATES ON A WATER WELL.
THE COMMUNITY CANNOT TOLERATE HIGH, UH, VOLUME USAGE OF WATER IN THIS AREA.
CROSS MOUNTAIN VEHICLE TRAFFIC HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED OVER THE MANY YEARS.
THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OFF A SCENIC LOOP.
ROAD AND CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL HAS BEEN A SHORTCUT TO GET TO THESE AREAS.
THERE'S BEEN VARIOUS ACCIDENTS ON CROSS MOUNTAIN THAT I WILL, UH, CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL THAT I'LL, UH, DETAIL BELOW.
THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT SPEEDING ISSUES ON THE ROAD AS WELL.
BASED UPON THE, THE COUNTY, I BELIEVE THEY PUT UP TWO STOP SIGNS ALONG CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
THEY'VE ALSO INSTALLED, UH, METERS TO, UH, ASSESS YOUR SPEED.
CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL RECENTLY HAS BEEN DESIGNATED A NO THROUGH TRAFFIC ZONE, UH, AS NOTED BY THE SIGN ENTERING CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL OFF OF BERNIE STATE ROAD.
CHANGING THE ZONING OF THE LOT IN QUESTION WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC AND GO AGAINST WHAT THE CITY OR THE COUNTY IS CONCERNED ABOUT ON TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD.
THE ADDRESS IN QUESTION IS RIGHT BETWEEN TWO VERY SIGNIFICANT CURVES OF TURNS IN THE ROAD, BOTH A CURVY 90 DEGREE TURN.
THE FIRST 90 DEGREE TURN COMING OFF OF BURNING STAGE ROAD IS LESS THAN THREE TENTHS OF A MILE FROM THE SLOT.
THE OTHER CURVE IS ACTUALLY AT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO AGO.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE WAS A MULTI-VEHICLE ACCIDENT AND DESTROYED THE MAILBOX AT 88 77 CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL.
THIS LOCATION IS LESS THAN A 10TH OF A MILE FROM THE LOT IN QUESTION.
THERE WAS ANOTHER WRECK ON A CURB CLOSER TO BERNIE STAGE ROAD LESS THAN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
THE LOT IN QUESTION IS IN THE MOST DANGEROUS AREA, IN MY OPINION, OF CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL.
DUE TO THE CURVES REST OF CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL IS RELATIVELY STRAIGHT.
ANY COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WILL ONLY INCREASE THE RISK OF THE RESIDENTS OF CROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH AND THOSE USING CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL FOR OTHER REASONS.
UH, THESE ARE THE POINTS AND MY TIME IS UP AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.
I'M EDWARD BUTLER, LIVE AT 88 30 CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL.
ONE LOT BETWEEN ME AND THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
WE WANNA GET THE BEEPER STOPPED HERE.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO, TO DO THIS JOB FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UH, I'M GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH SUBDIVISION.
'CAUSE YOU PROBABLY DON'T, DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
I, IT'S A, IT'S A WOODED RETREAT I THINK ON OUR LOT.
IT'S A SINGLE LANE ROAD SERVING A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THE MINIMUM ACREAGE PER RESIDENT LOT IS TWO ACRES.
THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOT FOR ANY HOME IS 2000 SQUARE FEET.
THE HOMES RUN BETWEEN 500,000 AND $2 MILLION.
SO TO THINK ABOUT PUTTING A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE IN THE MIDST OF THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA IS ANATHEMA TO THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THE AREA.
I ALSO WANNA COMMENT, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ME EARLIER, WE'RE LISTED AS A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH IS THREE TO 12 HOMES PER ACRE.
YOU HAVE A LISTING RESIDENTIAL ESTATE UP TO TWO DWELLINGS PER ACRE, YET OUR SUBDIVISION IS TWO ACRES PER DWELLING.
UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, REMOTE.
IT'S AREAS SHOULDN'T BE ANY, UH, COMMERCIAL.
NOW IT SAYS IN HERE THAT UNDER THE CATEGORY THEY SEEK, THERE COULD BE OIL, LUBE AND TO SHOPS, TIRE SALES, LIQUOR STORES, LARGE SCALE RETAIL GAS STATIONS.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC ON THE SINGLE LANE ROAD? JUST LAST WEEK WE HAD A DELIVERY TRUCK ON THIS SINGLE LANE ROAD AND HIS REAR TIRE WENT OFF IN THE GRAVEL AND HE WENT INTO THE DITCH BESIDE THE ROAD.
SO THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF AREA THAT WOULD BE CONDUCIVE TO THIS AREA.
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NEXT ROBIN BUTLER.I LIVE AT 88 30 CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN THERE 27 YEARS.
27 YEARS, AND WE'VE WATCHED SOME CHANGES THERE.
UM, I, I BELIEVE EVERYBODY HAS FREEDOM TO DO WHAT THEY WANT ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT, BUT YOU CAN'T NOISE.
WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE VENUE.
WE CAN SIT ON OUR DECK AND WE CAN HEAR THEM WHEN THEY'RE HAVING A VENUE AND YOU HEAR LOUD MUSIC AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE GO, OH MY, MY GOSH, WE HAVE TO GO INSIDE.
WE CAN'T STAY ON OUR OWN PATIO 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH NOISE COMING FROM THE VENUE.
SO I JUST, I JUST DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY WITHOUT CONSIDERING YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE LIVED THERE.
SO, AND THERE'S SO MANY DEER, THE DEER THAT RUN OUT IN FRONT OF CARS AND TRUCKS, IT'S JUST ASKING TO HAVE ONE MORE ACCIDENT AFTER ANOTHER.
WE HAD SAT OUT THERE AND HEARD, UH, A CAR JUST NOT MAKE THAT, UH, CURVE AND CRASH.
AND EVERYBODY WENT, OH MY GOSH, CALL 9 1 1.
WE, WE'VE HEARD IT A LOT, SO IT'S DANGEROUS WHERE THEY WANNA DO THIS.
AS, AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'RE A LITTLE UPSET THAT THIS COULD HAPPEN TO US.
I MOVED INTO CROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH AT 2 3 7 2 4 UP MOUNTAIN TRAIL AND MOVED IN IN 93.
SO THAT MAKES ME A RESIDENT FOR THIRD, FOR 33 YEARS NOW, 32.
AND I'M OPPOSED IT FOR FOUR REASONS.
UH, EVERYONE'S ADDRESSED THE ROAD SAFETY IN ADDITION DURING THE VENUE.
THAT HAS NOT, THAT IT HAS CAUSED PROBLEMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ONE WHERE SOMEONE CAME OUT DRUNK AND, UM, ALMOST HIT ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS IN THE CAR.
AND THE OTHER ONE WHERE THERE'S SOME DRUNK TEENAGERS HANGING OUT ON THE ROAD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, ABOUT 2:00 AM AND ALMOST GOT HIT BY THE BLIND CURVE.
THE CURVE ITSELF THAT THEY MENTIONED HAS A 20 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT, UM, THROUGH THAT AREA.
THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AT 30.
THE SECOND REASON I OPPOSE IT IS BECAUSE IT OVERLOADS OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO EXPAND THE SIZE OF THAT ROAD OR TO STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.
THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE AREA IS HILLY AND CURVED AND IT, THERE JUST ISN'T ANY MORE ROOM.
AND THE THIRD REASON IS THAT IT REDUCES THE REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY.
THAT VENUE OF EIGHT ACRES PAYS A REVENUE OF ABOUT $5,000 OF PROPERTY TAXES A YEAR.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE REDUCED PROPERTY VALUES, ONCE THIS BIG COMMERCIAL VENTURE GOES IN, THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL DROP IN VALUE PRICE.
AND THEN THE LAST, QUITE A NUMBER OF MY NEIGHBORS AND ME ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE AESTHETICS OF THE AREA.
AND IF YOU HAVE THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'VE GOT AN ENTIRE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD VALUE SYSTEM IS.
IT SEPARATES THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SECTIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE CAN NO LONGER WALK ACROSS THE STREET.
THANKS FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE.
MY NAME IS RICHARD CAMARO, AS YOU MENTIONED.
UH, I HAVE A PROPERTY, UH, ON ADAM'S CROSSING.
AND, UH, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY PRETTY MUCH SPOKEN ON MOST OF THE THE MAIN TOPICS, BUT THE ONE, UH, TOPIC THAT I'D LIKE TO REITERATE ON IS JUST THE SAFETY OF, OF HAVING MORE VEHICLES COMING OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
UH, CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL IS A TWO LANE ROADWAY WITH NO SHOULDERS.
IT'S 30 MILE PER HOUR LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY MENTIONED.
AND, UH, THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IS A LIMITED SITE DISTANCE ISSUE.
AND IF, IF I KNOW THAT THIS PROPERTY IS A VENUE NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE, IT COULD, UH,
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INCREASE THE, THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL USAGE AND INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF VOLUME THROUGH THAT AREA.AND THAT ROADWAY CAN'T EVEN HANDLE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND SPEED THAT PEOPLE ARE, ARE, ARE USING IT AT THIS TIME.
SO I, I JUST THINK THAT, UM, IF IT WERE TO BE APPROVED, THAT THE SAFETY CONCERNS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ALONG WITH THE LIMITED RIGHT OF WAY.
AND IF IT WERE TO BE EXPANDED, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF TREES, THERE'S DITCHES, THERE'S UH, THERE'S CHALLENGES, LET'S SAY, IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE ROADWAY IF, IF IT GETS EXPANDED AS IT MIGHT NEED IN THE FUTURE.
UH, NATALIE NATHAN, IS IT? GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M NATALIE NATHAN, AND MY ADDRESS IS 2 3 2 2 5 EAGLE GAP.
I'M VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT, ABOUT THIS SITUATION.
MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN CROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH 13 YEARS AGO, AND WE BOUGHT IT WITH THE IDEA THAT BEING OUR FOREVER HOME.
HE WAS A PROMINENT SURGEON HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY AFTER WE BOUGHT THE HOME.
BUT WE BOUGHT THE HOME BECAUSE IT WAS A WONDERFUL PLACE WHEN WE USED TO RIDE OUR BIKES AND RUN MARATHONS AND IT WAS A TRAINING PLACE AND WE HAD ANIMALS.
THAT'S MY NICKNAME, SNOW WHITE, BECAUSE WE'RE A REFUGE FOR ANIMALS ACROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH.
I HAVE A BRAZILIAN LAND TORTOISE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE THAT HAVE HORSES, GOATS, CHICKENS, ALL KINDS OF ANIMALS.
AND IT WAS A LOVELY, LOVELY PLACE.
AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE LIVE THERE.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, YES, THE TREES AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BUT WE ARE PROTECTING ANIMALS.
AND IT'S TWO, THREE MILES AWAY FROM I 10, WHICH WAS A GREAT, GREAT SHOT FROM MY HUSBAND TO GO TO THE MEDICAL CENTER.
BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
A PLACE THAT FAMILIES LIVE, A PLACE WHERE WE PROTECT ANIMALS.
AND I JUST HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY ONE PERSON OR ONE COMPANY, WHOEVER THEY ARE, THEY OWN A HOUSE AND THEY DECIDE THEY WANNA MAKE A PROPERTY INTO A WEDDING OR A SPECIAL EVENT VENUE NEXT DOOR.
I JUST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
IF THEY CAN DO IT WHERE WE LIVE, THEN WHAT'S TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS? BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I KNOW THIS LOVELY LADY BEHIND ME TALKED ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAXES.
I PAY OVER $10,000 FOR MY PROPERTY TAXES AND I'M A WIDOW.
AND THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA MAYBE PAY 5,000 AND HAVE A WEDDING.
AND THEY'RE ALSO MARKETING IT AS A, UM, GLAMPING.
SO THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO PROMOTE HAVING PEOPLE COME OUT THERE TO DO CAMPING AND, UM, SPEND WEEKENDS AND HAVE WEEKEND PARTIES.
THAT SPEAKS TO HOW BEAUTIFUL THE PLACES THAT WE LIVE.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ONE, ONE COUPLE COMPANY, HOWEVER, THEY'VE SET THEMSELVES UP TO DISRUPT A WHOLE COMMUNITY.
AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THINKING ABOUT THIS AS IT'S A COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY FOR ANIMALS AND PEOPLE.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US COME OUT TODAY.
I, I THINK I MIGHT BE THE LAST SPEAKER.
UH, MY NAME IS LEE, LAST NAME IS RYLE.
I LIVE AT 9 0 1 5 CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN CROSS MOUNTAIN FOR 34 YEARS AND WE BOUGHT THERE MANY YEARS AGO.
IT'S A VERY NICE PLACE TO LIVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE OR VISITED.
I THINK THE TESTIMONY FROM ALL THE RESIDENTS WILL, WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT'S LIKE IN CROSS MOUNTAIN.
UM, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THIS SITUATION, THIS ZONING REQUEST, IS BECAUSE OF TR UH, THE TRAFFIC ON CROSS MOUNTAIN IN THE LAST 10 YEARS HAS GONE UP DRAMATICALLY.
UM, WE'VE HAD, UM, MANY ISSUES.
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THE, THE RESIDENTS DON'T WALK ON CROSS MOUNTAIN ANYMORE.THEY DON'T WALK THEIR DOGS AND THEY CERTAINLY DON'T BIKE ON CROSS MOUNTAIN ANYMORE.
IT'S BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S RUNNING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU AGREE TO THIS PROPOSAL, UH, THAT'S GONNA CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC, MORE ISSUES, MORE CONCERNS, WHICH LEADS US TO SAFETY.
UM, ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO WE HAD A TRUCK THAT CAME THROUGH AND DOWN CROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH OR CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL.
THE TRAILER TURNED OVER, IT WAS FULL OF REBAR.
UH, I THINK Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT, YOU GUYS.
THAT HAPPENED ON OUR ROAD, QUARTER MILE FROM MY HOUSE.
NOW, IF YOU'VE BEEN WALKING ALONG CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL THERE, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD'VE HAPPENED IF HE HAD BEEN TURNING THE OTHER WAY? AND THERE ARE MANY TURNS ON CROSS MOUNTAIN, THAT TRAILER WOULD'VE TURNED OVER GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION, PROBABLY WOULD'VE HIT SOMEBODY HEAD ON, SERIOUSLY INJURED THEM OR KILLED THEM.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IN CROSS MOUNTAIN RIGHT NOW.
APPROVING THIS WILL MAKE US LESS SAFE IN CROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH.
EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT AS THE EN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, ANY COMMERCIAL BUILDING OF ANY TYPE IS GONNA HAVE A NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL FOOTPRINT.
WHETHER IT'S RUNOFF FROM HAZARDOUS MATERIALS OR OIL SPILLS OR UH, COOLANT SPILLS, YOU NAME IT, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
IT HAPPENS INHERENTLY AS A RESULT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL FOOTPRINT THAT THEY WILL LEAVE THAT NOW THEY CAN SAY, HEY, IT'S ONLY FOR A WEDDING VENUE, OR IT'S ONLY FOR A LITTLE PARTY EVERY NOW AND THEN.
THE REALITY IS ONCE YOU CHANGE IT TO C TWO, THEN ANYTHING CAN GO IN THERE.
WHO WANTS A DISCOUNT TIRE SITTING ON CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL? I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU WOULD WANT THAT.
WILDLIFE, SOME OF THE FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT WILDLIFE.
WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM WHITETAILED, DEER, COTTONTAIL, BUNNIES, PORCUPINES, RACCOONS, UH, HAWKS, COOPER'S HAWKS, UH, LAST NIGHT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ON QUEUE LAST NIGHT OUTSIDE OUR BEDROOM WITH A HOOT OUT.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN ONE OR HEARD, HEARD OF ONE IN LIKE THREE YEARS.
BUT THERE HE WAS HOOTING OUTSIDE MY WINDOW, WOKE UP, MY WIFE DIDN'T WAKE ME UP.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.
IT'S NOT JUST HOUSES AND LAND.
THE BEXAR COUNTY SITUATION, BEAR COUNTY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF INSTALLING, UH, STOP SIGNS, UM, KNOWN THROUGH TRAFFIC SIGNS, SIGNS AND SOLAR POWERED, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS FOR US, OR SPEED LIMIT SIGNS.
THEY'VE DONE A LOT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC, NOT TO INCREASE IT AS A RESULT.
YOU SHOULD VOTE NO FOR THIS PROPOSAL.
THE APPLICANT IS ALLOWED AS MUCH TIME AS THEY NEED.
THE LAST THING IS HOMEOWNER VALUES.
THAT IS EVERYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
UH, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
UH, FIRST I WANT TO GIVE, UH, EMILY A CHANCE TO REBUT.
UM, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, UH, BY GENEVIEVE WITH ME.
UM, SO JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.
AGAIN, THIS IS A MILITARY PLAN, AMENDMENT PROTECTION AREA.
UM, SO A, A VERY LIMITED SCOPE HERE.
UM, COUNTY HAS DONE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS ON THE ROAD THERE.
UM, THIS IS AN EXISTING WEDDING VENUE, SO, UM, WE ARE JUST LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE IT.
THIS IS ONE, MAYBE ONE AND A HALF WEDDINGS A MONTH.
THIS IS VERY LOW TRAFFIC, UM, EXTREMELY LOW WATER USAGE.
THIS PROPERTY IS NOT IRRIGATED.
THIS IS EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES, UM, WITH LESS THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, GENEVIEVE, UH, RICO WERE MARRIED HERE, DID THEIR VOW RENEWALS HERE, AND WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SHARE THIS BEAUTIFUL SPACE THAT IS VERY SECLUDED PRIVATE WOODED, UM, AND PREDOMINANTLY IN ITS NATURAL STATE, UM, WITH, WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND RAMON ZAYA.
UM, WE MOVED TO YOUR ADDRESS 88 60 CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL LOT NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, WE MOVED TO CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL IN 2008 WITH OUR THEN 11-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER.
SHE CALLED IT THE RANCH HOUSE.
UM, IT WAS ALWAYS OUR DREAM TO OWN A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND WITH A POOL FOR MY DAUGHTER AND A SEPARATE SPACE FOR MY VERY INDEPENDENT, LOVING MOTHER-IN-LAW WITH A CATHOLIC CHURCH NEARBY.
WE WERE HONORED TO HAVE MY MOTHER-IN-LAW MOVE TO SAN ANTONIO WITH US AFTER THE
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LOSS OF MY FATHER-IN-LAW AND HER HUSBAND, MR. REESE, WHICH IS A LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE CROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH COMMUNITY, ASKED US BEFORE HE DECIDED TO SELL HIS PROPERTY WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THIS PROPERTY IF IT WAS SOLD.WE TOLD MR. REESE THAT WE WANTED TO PRESERVE THE LAND.
HOWEVER, WE HAD TO FIND SOMETHING TO HELP COVER THE COST OF SUCH A LARGE PURCHASE FOR A FAMILY LIKE OURS.
FROM HUMBLE BEGINNINGS, WE TOLD THEM OUR VISION OF OFFERING GLAMPING AND TO BUILD A SMALL VENUE ON OUR PROPERTY SO THAT ONE DAY WE MAY RENEW OUR VOWS.
MR. REESE NOT ONLY GAVE US HIS BLESSING, BUT SOLD US THE PROPERTY.
THIS LAND IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE SAN ANTONIO CITY LIMITS OUTSIDE OF THE HOA AND WITH NO RESTRICTIONS.
I UNDERSTAND MY NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS.
WE TOO HAVE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS TRAFFIC IS CAUSED BY THE GROWING COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING THE CROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH AREA.
PEOPLE ATTENDING OUR EVENTS HAVE NEVER PARKED OUTSIDE OF OUR WALLS AND WE HAVE NEVER HOSTED ANY MINORS AT OUR VENUE WITHOUT PARENTAL SUPERVISION.
AND MOST OF OUR EVENTS HAVE STOPPED AT 10:00 PM WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE NOISE COMPLAINT FROM ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
I HEAR DISTANT NEIGHBORS MENTORING THINGS LIKE GAS STATIONS, OIL AND LUBE SHOPS, SHOPPING CENTERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
OUR GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO PRESERVE THE NATURE AND NATURAL BEAUTY OF CROSS MOUNTAIN.
WE WILL SEE EACH OTHER AT THE NEXT HOA MEETING AT HEB AT CHURCH.
OUR DAUGHTERS WILL INHERIT OUR PROPERTY.
THEY UNDERSTAND OUR VISION, OUR PURPOSE, THE REASON FOR THIS HEARING TODAY, THIS IS OUR LAND AND WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION ON PRESERVING ITS NATURAL BEAUTY.
WE ARE NOT YOUR ENEMIES, WE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR HEARING US.
OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER MILAM.
THERE WERE A LOT OF ERROR IN WHAT SHE JUST SAID.
BUT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OVER.
CAN UH, COMMISSIONER MILAM, CAN YOU HEAR US? COMMISSIONER MILAM, CAN YOU TRY AND, UH, SPEAK FOR US REALLY QUICK? HM.
COMMISSIONER MILAM, CAN YOU HEAR US? I CAN HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN NOW, BUT IT'S VERY FAINT.
HOW ABOUT WE TRY TO GET THAT RESOLVED AND WE WILL COME BACK TO COMMISSIONER MILAN.
WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER ZUKI.
UH, WHAT STOPPED THE OPERATIONS OF THE VENUE AFTER A YEAR AND WHY YOU ARE HERE TODAY FOR AMENDMENT? SO THE OPERATIONS, UM, THERE'S NOT A WEDDING HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW TODAY, BUT THE OPERATIONS HAVEN'T STOPPED.
UM, WE ARE IN PURSUIT OF THE PERMIT, UM, THROUGH THE COUNTY, UM, WHICH REQUIRES THAT WE PROCEED WITH THE PLAN AMENDMENT PRIOR TO THAT.
UM, BUT THE, THE FUNCTIONAL OPERATION HAS NOT STOPPED.
WE'RE STILL IN PURSUIT OF THE PERMIT.
SO YOU WERE ABLE TO OPERATE WITHOUT PERMIT AT THIS POINT? SO WHEN THEY BUILT THIS VENUE, WHEN THEY BUILT THIS VENUE, THEY WORKED WITH THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND WERE TOLD THAT AS LONG AS THEY RESIDED ON THE PROPERTY THAT IT WAS NOT COMMERCIALIZED.
UM, AND THAT WAS THE ADVICE THEY WERE GIVEN.
THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING WITHOUT ISSUE SINCE.
UM, AND THEN RECENTLY THAT NARRATIVE HAS SHIFTED.
UM, AND THEY WERE INFORMED THAT THERE ARE LAND USE CONTROLS ATTACHED TO BEING WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THE MILITARY BASE.
AND THEY NEEDED A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE, UM, COMPATIBILITY, UH, FROM THE CITY FOR THE PLAN DESIGNATION.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S TRIGGERING THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
UH, QUESTION TO THE, UH, THE AMENDMENT IN FRONT OF ME HERE IS TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THERE BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT THE C TWO COMMERCIAL ZONING.
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THAT REQUEST WOULD COVER THE EIGHT PLUS ACREAGE FOR THAT C TWO TO BE GRANTED.IT IS NOT A PORTION OF THAT PARCEL, IT'S THE WHOLE THING.
SO THERE, THE, THE REQUEST FOR THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIALS FOR THE WHOLE PARCEL, NOT A PORTION OF IT.
AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE IS NO ZONING 'CAUSE IT'S ETJ, SO THE, THE C TWO ISN'T, THERE'S NO C TWO, IT, ITS USE IS ALLOWED IN C TWO THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL COMMISSIONER, PROPHET, YOU, IT'S GOOD TO SEE A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY OUT HERE AND OBVIOUSLY VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY, WHICH, UH, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY RESPECT.
YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE THE ISSUE OR ONE OF THE ISSUES IS WHAT THE PROPERTY IS AND WHAT IT COULD BE.
SO I HEAR, WE HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT OTHER COMMERCIAL USES AND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONSIDERING THE LAND USE.
SO I MEAN, THAT IS A BIT OF A CONCERN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IF, IF WE PUT IT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, IT COULD BE, UH, SOLD AND DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT, UM, MS. WEISSER IS THERE, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THE OWNER CAN DO THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME SORT OF, UH, COVENANTS OR RESTRICTIONS AGAINST ANY TYPE OF USES OTHER THAN THE VENUE? YES, AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UM, SO WHETHER THAT'S WITH CROSS MOUNTAIN RANCH, HOA OR ANOTHER HOA, UM, IT'S A WILLING PARTY HOLDING PARTY FOR THE COVENANTS.
UM, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, THAT IS OUR ONLY FUNCTION.
THAT'S OUR ONLY WAY TO LIMIT THOSE USES.
UM, LEGALLY THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY SORT OF FUNCTION HERE, UM, TO DO THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE SITE PLAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT WE ARE HAPPILY, UM, WILLING TO ENTER INTO RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS TO LIMIT THOSE USES ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO THINGS LIKE A LIQUOR STORE CANNOT GO THERE.
AND THE LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ARE THEY, IS THE COMMUNITY AWARE OF THAT OPTION OF, OF RESTRICTIONS? I MEAN, HAS THERE BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS? UM, I HAVEN'T BEEN A PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, UM, BUT THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
UM, AND UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT.
UM, THIS IS, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE ALWAYS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME FACE TIME WITH PEOPLE, UM, WHERE MAYBE OUTREACH HASN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL, UM, OR ENGAGEMENT HASN'T BEEN, UM, RECIPROCATED.
SO, UM, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE QUESTIONS OF ROADS AND ALL THAT.
AGAIN, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS VENUE, UM, IN ITS CONCURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION.
UM, IF THIS WAS TO BE DEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL, HOW MANY UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL COULD BE POTENTIALLY BE SO, UM, ABOUT IT, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UM, STAFF, CORRECT ME IF I'M COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF R FOUR 4,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, UM, OVER EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES.
UM, GEORGE WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER AT THAT MATH, UM, THAN I AM.
UM, BUT I MEAN I THINK ROUGHLY 40, 60 RESIDENTIAL HOMES, UM, YEAH, SINGLE FAMILY MANUFACTURED HUD CODE MANUFACTURED AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE SO, SO MY, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WAS DONE THEN WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT TO THE ROADS, TO THE WATER, TO THE, TO THE LI UH, TO THE, TO THE WILDLIFE, ET CETERA.
UM, WHAT IS THE INTERPLAY? THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE THING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AND THE ONLY REASON WE'RE TAKING IT UP IS BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO CAMP BULLIS.
UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT UH, JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO IS NOT IN PO A POSITION.
THEY WANNA PRESERVE THEIR MISSION WITH THE DOWN LIGHTING NOISE, ET CETERA.
UM, WHAT IS THE INTERPLAY WITH, IF, IF, DOES THE FIRE MARSHAL NEED THE CITY'S PLAN AMENDMENT CHANGE TO ISSUE THE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE OR WHATEVER THEY REFER TO? DOES, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
UH, SO, UM, OUR PORTION OF THIS AND THE ETJ MPAS, THAT CERTIFICATE OF COMPATIBILITY, SO TYPICALLY WHEN WE, WE CATCH THAT IS AN APPLICANT IS AT PERMITTING WITH BEXAR COUNTY.
SO COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, MULTIFAMILY, UM, ANYTHING THAT HAS TO PULL PERMITS WITH THE BEAR COUNTY'S FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IN THIS AREA REQUIRES A CERTIFICATE OF COMPATIBILITY.
SO WE'LL REVIEW THE LIGHTING, UM, THE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO ENSURE IT COMPLIES WITH THE E-T-J-M-P-A AND THE ML, THE MLOD AND THE AREA.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, LIKE BUILDING REQUIREMENTS IS TOTALLY WITH THE COUNTY.
SO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DOESN'T REQUIRE PERMITS WITH BEAR COUNTY.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THIS ORIGINALLY, LIKE WHAT EMILY IS SAYING, WHERE IT
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ORIGINALLY WAS ALLOWED TO GO.UM, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY WHERE IT COMES INTO PLAY IS AT PERMITTING.
IT'S A PART OF THE PERMIT PROCESS IN BEXAR COUNTY.
SO IF THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED AS COMMERCIAL, IT WOULD'VE BEEN CAUGHT IN THE PERMITTING INITIALLY.
AND AGAIN, THANKS FOR THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
UM, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER SIEGEL CHAIR, CAN WE PAUSE FOR A MINUTE JUST TO CHECK, UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MILO'S AUDIO? SURE.
NOW I THINK IT'S JUST COMING OFF.
I CAN, I CAN HEAR IT BUT IT'S REALLY FAINT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD MAKE THE RECORDING.
CAN THEY BRING UP ONE MIC? CAN YOU HEAR US? COMMISSIONER MILAN
OKAY, NOW WE CAN'T HEAR IT ALL.
COMMISSIONER MILAM, CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING? WE'RE TRYING TO TEST YOUR END.
OKAY, FOR THE RECORD, IT IS 2 47.
COMMISSIONER SIEGEL'S LEAVING THE MEETING.
COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN YOU TRY TAKING, SPEAKING JUST US ONE MORE TIME? I CAN HEAR YOU FINE.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER MILAM FOR QUESTIONS
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MYLAN? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A VERY, I I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY SAID EVERYTHING WAS FINE BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY WERE DOING THIS ON THEIR OWN LAND.
AND I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT CAME TO OUR PURVIEW AT THAT POINT AND NOT BEFORE, SINCE THEY'D BEEN IN OPERATION FOR OVER A YEAR.
UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S VERY CONFUSING, I GUESS.
AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE VERY CONFUSED TOO AND THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH IT.
I HAVEN'T HEARD A WHOLE LOT ABOUT HOW THE OWNERS HAVE REACHED OUT TO, UH, MEET WITH THE HOA TO CREATE COVENANTS AND TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
AND I, I WONDER IF MAYBE THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN FIRST AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO US.
I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, AT LEAST PUT IT ON THE TABLE.
UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTER INTO THOSE COVENANTS.
WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE US TO COME BACK, UM, AND REPORT ON THAT.
AGAIN, I REALIZE THAT COVENANTS ARE NOT STRICTLY WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW.
UM, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A WILLING PARTY, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.
JUST TO CLARIFY, IS THAT A CONTINUANCE OR IF THE COMMISSION LIKE A CONTINUANCE? IF IT RECOMMENDS, YEAH.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MILAN? NO, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
MY CON MY CON MY CONCERN IS FOR STAFF.
UH, HAVE YOU ALL BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE AIR FORCE IN, IN TERMS OF THIS, THAT THEY INITIATED OR Y'ALL INITIATED THE, SO AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE DO HAVE TO GET A LETTER FROM JBSA.
UM, SO WE REACH OUT TO, UH, JOINT BASED SAN ANTONIO WHEN WE GET AN APPLICATION FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT AND THEN WE HAVE TO GET A RESPONSE BACK BEFORE WE CAN PROCEED WITH ANYTHING.
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THEY DID RESPOND THAT THEY DON'T OBJECT TO THE OVERALL REQUEST, BUT THEY TYPICALLY DON'T OBJECT TO ANY OF THESE REQUESTS.ALRIGHT, SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL IS FOR STAFF.
IS THERE, IS THERE A REGISTERED, UH, NEIGHBORS, UH, RE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION FOR THIS AREA? THERE'S, THERE'S AN HOA, BUT IT'S NOT REGISTERED WITH THE CITY SINCE IT'S IN THE ETJ.
SO A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, IS THE, IS IS THE HOA IT'S A MANDATORY HOA FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ARE IS THERE, ARE, ARE Y'ALL AWARE OF THAT? UM, YES, BUT THIS PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS NOT PART OF THOSE BOUNDARIES.
BECAUSE, AND, AND THAT'S WHY I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IN THE, IN THE REPORT IT SHOWS THAT THIS IS IN UNIT ONE OF, OF CROSS MOUNTAIN AND I FOUND DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR UNIT ONE FOR CROSS MOUNTAIN THAT DON'T APPEAR TO HAVE EXPIRED OR ARE EXPIRED.
AND IT, AND, AND THE WAY THEY'RE WRITTEN IT, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE THAT THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD UH, UH, MAKE THIS INELIGIBLE FOR ANY SORT OF A COMMERCIAL ENTITY OR FOR REPL, UH, FOR THAT MATTER WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE HOA.
SO IS THERE AN HOA THAT THIS IS OVER? I MEAN I REALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS, DOES IT, THIS IS AN UNIT ONE, CORRECT? YES.
YEAH, I'M, I'M LOOKING, UH, IT'S AN INSTRUMENT DATED APRIL 12TH, 2011 ONE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE A, A MAP? NO, I'M, I'M, I'M OKAY.
UH, BUT IT HAS, UH, IT'S VOLUME 1 4 9 2 8, PAGE 5 5 3.
AND THIS THING SAYS IT ENCOMPASSES ALL OF UNIT ONE AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M CONFUSED OUT 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT PREDATES UNIT OR IT'S CREATED AFTER UNIT ONE.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE IN AN HOA AND IF SO AND IF SO SHOULD.
I WOULD LIKE ME PERSONALLY, IF YOU WERE TO COME BACK AFTER A CONTINUANCE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU GO THROUGH THE A CC PROCESS AS OUTLINED IN THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
IF YOU ARE SUBJECT TO THEM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON THE BOUNDARIES, BUT THIS EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES, SO, UM, THE SIZES OWN, UM, OVER 11 ACRES HERE, UM, WHERE THERE ARE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS SUBJECT TO THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
THIS EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES IS NOT PART OF THOSE BOUNDARIES, IS NOT SUBJECT TO THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
BUT THAT'S AGAIN, PART OF THE REASON WE ARE WILLING TO ENCUMBER THE PROPERTY WITH RESTRICTIONS TO LIMIT THOSE KIND OF UNDESIRABLE USES.
SO, SO THIS IS NOT PART OF THE, IT'S NOT PART OF THE UNIT ONE, IT'S, IT'S JUST AN OUTSIDE OF CROSS MOUNTAIN? CORRECT.
THIS EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES AND IT'S NOT PART OF I ANY OF THE CROSS MOUNTAIN UNITS BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS RECORDED FOR UNIT FIVE, UNIT THREE, UNIT 11.
I, I WOULD JUST LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY.
AND SO THE, THIS REQUEST IS NOT IN ANY WAY USING THE EXISTING LOT THAT IS WITHIN UNIT ONE AS PART OF THE CONDUCTION OF BUSINESS? NO, IT'S A SEPARATE LOT.
AND THEN FOR STAFF, UM, I KNOW THAT THE, THAT ZONING COMMISSION CAN, AND, AND CITY COUNCIL CAN ASK FOR COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS AND CAN WE, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AMENDMENT OF A PLAN, I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF AN EXTREME THING, BUT CAN WE CREATE A NEW USE THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW C TWO OR SOME, SOME ASPECT OF WHAT EVERYONE'S AGAINST SO THAT WE COULD, WE COULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO INCLUDE SOMETHING INTENSIVE? SO THIS PLAN WAS CREATED, UM, BACK IN 2019.
UM, I WANNA SAY THROUGH PROBABLY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO THIS IS NOT A, YOU KNOW, CREATING A WHOLE NEW CATEGORY IN THAT PLAN WOULD NOT BE UNDER OUR JURISDICTION WOULD BE, I'M JUST WONDERING IT WOULD BE, YEAH, IT WOULD BE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT I BELIEVE.
THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY CAUSE SOME SORT OF CITY COUNCIL ACTION TO CHANGE THE PLAN ITSELF.
I, I'M JUST WONDERING, I'M LOOKING FOR SOME OPTION AVENUE THAT WE COULD ENTERTAIN, BUT, UH, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAD IS THAT IF THIS DOES COME BACK, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME, SOME REAL INFORMATION ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS ISN'T AN HOA HOW, IF THERE IS ANY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE HOA AND TO HAVE, MAKE, SEE ENGAGEMENT FROM THEM.
COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER LOPEZ? NO QUESTIONS.
I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER PROPHET ASKED THE QUESTIONS I WAS GONNA ASK, SO NO QUESTIONS.
AND I WILL REITERATE THAT COMMISSIONER PROPHET HAD A VERY THOROUGH SET OF QUESTIONS THAT HE WROTE DOWN OVER HERE AND, UH, ALSO, UH, LEARNED A LOT FROM DONALD.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OTHER THAN WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN ASKED.
UM, IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THOSE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN? IT'S NOT THE QUESTION, IT'S JUST A COMMENT.
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I HAVE, UH, 46 OPPOSITION HERE IN WRITING AND I HAVE FIVE, SIX PEOPLE SHOWED UP TODAY IN A POSITION TO THIS.I WOULD LOVE FOR THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THE TIME TO SPEND, TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON HOW WE CAN RESOLVE THIS, TRY TO FIND AN AGREEMENT TO SOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES OF THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION IF EXISTS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CONTINUOUS IN THIS, UH, NEXT TIME, UH, JUST TO HAVE A CONFIDENT ON WHICH DIRECTION I SHOULD VOTE FOR.
I DO ACTUALLY HAVE ONE QUESTION.
SO THE PROPERTY THAT CONTAINS THE VENUE CURRENTLY, IS IT DIFFERENT THAN, SO IS IT PLATTED CURRENTLY? I'M ASSUMING SO, YES.
AND IS IT THE SAME LOT OR IS IT A SEPARATE LOT THAN THE PARCEL THAT CONTAINS THE RESIDENCE? SEPARATE FROM THE RESIDENCE? SO IT'S SEPARATE.
IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE RESIDENCE.
SO THEY OWN, UM, SO THE HOME ITSELF IS RIGHT HERE AT THE CORNER OF ADAMS CROSSING AND CROSS MOUNTAIN TRAIL.
THIS IS, WE ARE COMBINING IT TO THIS SEPARATE LOT WHERE THE VENUE ACTUALLY IS.
AND DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT ONE WAS PLATTED? WAS IT PLATTED ON ITS OWN OR WAS IT ALSO PART OF IT WAS ON ITS OWN DOCUMENT.
SEPARATE FROM ANY CROSS MOUNTAIN, CORRECT.
CAN I, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, VOLUME 95 23, PAGE 1 32 CREATED THIS LOT.
UH, IT APPEARS TO BE A REPL OUT OF UNIT ONE, WHICH WOULD BE FOR THE EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES.
WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT AT ONE TIME IT WAS PART OF UNIT ONE, WHICH WOULD MEAN IT SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE RESTRICTIONS.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT.
WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION THERE IS, UNLESS THE RESTRICTIONS WERE DEEDED OUT OF IT BY LEGAL DOCUMENT, RIGHT.
I MEAN, WHICH COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST BRAINSTORMING.
I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS TWO SEPARATE PLATTED PARCELS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? ANY MOTION, MR. CHAIR? I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO SEPTEMBER 24TH.
MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 24TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BY COMMISSIONER BUSA MONTE, AND A SECOND BY, WAS IT COMMISSIONER ZUKI? WELL, I THINK IT WAS TIED.
COMMISSIONER ZUKI, COMMISSIONER MILAM, WHOEVER.
STAFF, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE.
UM, WE ALREADY APPROVED MINUTES AS PART OF THE CONSENT, IS THERE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO SIR.
NO OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? IT IS 2 58 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.