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          ALRIGHT, 
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GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 
          IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH, UH, TRANSLATION OR INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT PLEASE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMONTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. 
          THE TIME IS ONE OH ONE AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION IN THE SESSION. 
          ALRIGHT, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          UH, MARCO BARROS. 
          UH, DISTRICT NINE, ROB SIPES, DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          DANNY KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WHITSETT, DISTRICT 10. 
          JOHN KELLY, DISTRICT EIGHT. 
          MIA LOS DISTRICT TWO. 
          GEORG OSA, DISTRICT THREE. 
          EDDIE PETE RODRIGUEZ, DISTRICT FOUR KEN HUI, DISTRICT SIX. 
          JANELLE CHASE MAYOR'S OFFICE. 
          ALRIGHT, STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT? YES. 
          A QUORUM IS PRESENT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          UH, WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. 
          ONE NATION UNDERG GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR HONOR. 
          ALL RIGHT, BEFORE STARTING OUR MEETING, UH, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO PLEASE REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN ATTENDANCE. 
          STAFF IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. 
          THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES. 
          UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. 
          STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. 
          PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. 
          PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. 
          FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST. 
          FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU HAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. 
          THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. 
          YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE TWO MINUTES ARE UP. 
          FOR THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES. 
          THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND TO PLEASE ANNOUNCE THAT WHEN THAT SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM, THAT YOU ARE YIELDING THEIR TIME, YOU'RE YIELDING YOUR TIME TO THEM. 
          THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, STAFF, UH, STAFF, WE HAVE AN OVERFLOW ROOM AT THIS TIME, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          UM, THEY DO HAVE THE TOBIN ROOM, UM, FOR FOLKS TO SIT IN. 
          IT IS A LIVE, UH, A LIVE FEED. 
          UH, AND WE DO HAVE A FEW SEATS UP HERE. 
          1, 2, 3. 
          I SEE MAYBE FOUR. 
          UH, I CAN SIT ON THE FLOOR IF I NEED TO. 
          NO, I MEAN YOU CAN GO TO THE OVERFLOW ROOM, BUT I THINK ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE FIRST PART WE CAN BRING PEOPLE IN SO WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S, UH, ACCOMMODATED WHO NEEDS TO BE ACCOMMODATED, BUT UH, I THINK ESPECIALLY FOR THE WOMAN STANDING RIGHT NOW, I THINK IF WE COULD GET HER IN THAT SEAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          MA'AM, IF YOU JUST COME SIT UP RIGHT UP HERE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          'CAUSE I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL LEAVE ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE. 
          UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF PUBLIC INTEREST. 
          UH, I PRESUME YOU'RE ALL HERE FOR ONE OF MY CASES. 
          NO, ANYONE? NO, NO YOU'RE NOT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, NO. 
          WE DO HAVE A LARGE AREA REZONING THAT HAS A GREAT DEAL OF PUBLIC INTEREST. 
          UH, SO AS A RESULT I'M GONNA REITERATE SOME OF WHAT STAFF JUST SAID AND LET Y'ALL KNOW. 
          EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSION. 
          IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO USE YOUR TIME, 
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BUT WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO USE IT WHEN THAT PERSON STARTS TO APPROACH THE PODIUM TO SPEAK, OR IF YOUR NAME IS CALLED STAND UP AND SAY, I WANT TO GIVE MY TIME TO MADAM X. 
          UH, AND IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO, JUST LET, LET US KNOW BEFORE YOU START TO TALK OR BEFORE THAT SPEAKER STARTS TO TALK SO THAT WE CAN RUN THIS MEETING AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          ADDITIONALLY, ONE OF MY ROLES AS CHAIR UNDER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL COMMENTS ARE GERMANE. 
          FOR THE MOST PART, I'M NOT GONNA LIMIT FOLKS, UH, WHETHER IT'S COMMISSIONS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COMMISSIONERS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR STAFF. 
          UH, THAT BEING SAID, ONE THING THAT IS OFF LIMITS IS PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER, UH, OR ANY MEMBER OF OUR STAFF. 
          AND I WILL GIVE YOU A WARNING AND THEN I WILL TAKE YOUR TIME IF YOU CONTINUE IN THAT BEHAVIOR. 
          UH, WE WANT A RESPECTFUL DISCUSSION. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES TO A GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UH, BUT I WANNA RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME AND EVERYONE'S PERSON. 
          SO WE WILL DO THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT BEING SAID, NOPE. 
          UH, WE'RE 
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GONNA START WITH ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS. WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT WAS POSTPONED. 
          ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE 10 15 RIO CITY ROAD CASE, WHICH IS ONE OF MY CASES, UH, YOU ARE FREE TO GO ABOUT YOUR DAY. 
          THAT CASE WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. 
          YOU WILL RECEIVE ANOTHER PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE MAIL WHEN THAT CASE IS RESET FOR HEARING, SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN TAKE OFF AND MAKE YOUR SEAT AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE ELSE. 
          UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MY CASES ARE THE REALLY POPULAR ONES. 
          UM, ALRIGHT STAFF, CAN WE READ THE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON COMBINED HEARING? NUMBER ONE? ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, AND 20. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS LISTED ON THE COMBINED OR CONSENT HEARING AT THIS TIME? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING REMOTELY. 
          LOOKING REMOTELY. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, STAFF IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THE ITEMS ON THE COMBINED OR CONSENT HEARING AGENDA INTO THE RECORD PLEASE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO NC WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 3 0 2 EAST SUNSHINE DRIVE. 
          18. 
          NOTICES WERE MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. 
          THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM SUNSHINE ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED TWO OPPOSED AND 72 IN FAVOR. 
          ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO PUD MF 18 WITH A REDUCED PERIMETER SETBACK OF 10 FEET WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 1 4 8 4 0 TOPPER WINE ROAD 80. 
          NOTICES WERE MAILED, ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. 
          SEVEN OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 2 3 1 TAGE COURT. 
          31. 
          NOTICES WERE MAILED, ZERO IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM HOT WELLS MISSION REACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED AND C TWO AND ONE DWELLING UNIT TO ID Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO AND A BAR SLASH TAVERN WITH NO COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 1 4 2 1 AUSTIN STREET. 
          23 NOTICES WERE MAILED. 
          ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED GOVERNMENT HILL LIONS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. 
          ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST AND CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C3 WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 2 0 3 EAST ELMIRA STREET. 
          16. 
          NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO OPPOSED TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. 
          ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C ONE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR 
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VEHICLE SALES WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 1351 BASSEY ROAD. 
          38. 
          NOTICES WERE MAILED. 
          TWO IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM SHEER HILLS RIDGEVIEW. 
          NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THE SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AN AMENDED SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW. 
          ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 1539 SOMERSET ROAD. 
          16. 
          NOTICES WERE MAILED ONE IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM QUINTANA COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR AUTO SALVAGE AND L TWO L WITH ALL OF DELAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 85 24 NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY 10 NOTICES WERE MAILED. 
          FIVE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. 
          ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R TWO AND RM FOUR TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAY TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 1 23 AND 1 31 SEGUIN STREET. 
          29 NOTICES WERE MAILED. 
          ZERO. 
          RECEIVED IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO OPPOSED GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND GOVERNMENT HILL TOMORROW GAVE NO RESPONSE. 
          ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 3 21 EAST DEWEY PLACE. 
          28 NOTICES WERE MAILED. 
          ZERO. 
          RECEIVED IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO OPPOSED TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION. 
          ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE WITH ALL OVERLAY TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 2155 SHANO ROAD. 
          EIGHT. 
          NOTICES MAILED ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO OPPOSED VIA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE. 
          ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 AND C TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, VEHICULAR INGRESS EGRESS TO ONLY COLLIBRA PARK AND HOLY CROSS DRIVE AND PROTECTIVE SCREENING ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER CLOSEST TO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. 
          APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AN AMENDED SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW AND THEY ARE, UM, SUGGESTING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS REQUESTING, UM, OR SUBMITTING A FENCE HEIGHT OF EIGHT FEET HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM NO EXTERNAL SOUND SYSTEMS AND OR OUTDOOR LIVE MUSIC IS PERMITTED AND NO INGRESS EGRESS ONTO A LOWER DRIVE. 
          ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 NA TO R THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 10 21 CAPITAL AVENUE. 
          24 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO OPPOSED. 
          BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. 
          AND THAT IS IT FOR THE CONSENT ITEMS AND WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          WE HAVE VOICEMAILS AND SPEAKERS. 
          ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT, CAN WE GET THE APPLICANT FROM ITEM NUMBER 11 BASSEY ROAD IF YOU JUST COME UP PLEASE. 
          YEP. 
          RIGHT THERE. 
          AND MA'AM, YOU SUBMITTED UH, UH, AMENDED SITE PLAN FOR ITEM NUMBER 11? YES. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THAT REFLECTS THE PARKING THAT YOU WANT IN THIS CASE? I'M SORRY THAT REFLECTS THE PARKING THAT YOU WANT IN THIS CASE? CORRECT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT MS. WEISLER FOR ITEM NUMBER 17. 
          UH, YOU ALSO SUBMITTED AN AMENDED SITE PLAN, IS THAT CORRECT? YES SIR. 
          AND THAT REFLECTS THE FOUR CONDITIONS READ ON THE RECORD BY STAFF TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THOSE CONDITIONS ARE FOR THE CAR WASH USE, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          HOURS OF OPERATION FENCE HEIGHT UP TO EIGHT FEET FOR THAT WALL PROTECTIVE SCREENING ON ER, NO ACCESS ON ER, UM, AS WELL AS NO EXTERNAL SOUND SYSTEMS OR OUTDOOR LIVE MUSIC. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. 
          DO YOU WANT VOICEMAILS OR SPEAKERS? UM, LET'S DO SPEAKERS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          FIRST ITEM, UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WE HAVE DOMINGO SANCHEZ TO BE FOLLOWED BY ABRAHAM SANCHEZ. 
          YOU'RE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. 
          DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR WAIVE YOUR TIME? WAVE MY TIME. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          IS THAT BOTH MR. SANCHEZ'S? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
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ALSO, UM, WE HAVE FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UM, I HAVE A MR. MARLON SAWYER TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. JESSICA VIA LON. 
          SO MR. SAWYER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, MR, ARE YOU PRESENT AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? HE MIGHT BE IN THE OTHER ROOM. 
          LET'S, LET'S DOUBLE CHECK THE BREAKOUT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH, THE OVERFLOW ROOM AND, UH, MS. VIA VIA LON. 
          COULD YOU CALL FOR BOTH PLEASE? MAYBE IN THE MEANTIME DO YOU WANNA PLAY VOICEMAILS? OH, OH, I THINK WE JUST MISSED OUR WINDOW. 
          . 
          HI MR. SAWYER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN TELL US YOUR THOUGHTS ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE. 
          UH, MY NAME IS MARLON SAWYER. 
          I'M THE, UH, UH, HOMEOWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESIDENT IN, UH, GREEN RIDGE NORTH. 
          JUST, JUST AND WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR ADDRESS, SIR? MY ADDRESS IS, UH, 6 4 3 1 RIDGE PASS. 
          AND UH, IT SEEMS LIKE EARLIER IN THE DEAL YOU SAID THAT THERE, THERE, THERE WAS NO, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET OF THIS. 
          THERE IS, UH, WE'RE ON, UH, THE, UH, I GUESS WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT? THE WEST SIDE OF UH, TOPER WINE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT OUR, ONE OF OUR MAIN INTERESTS HERE IS THAT, UH, INGRESS AND INGRESS INTO, UH, INTO TOPER WINE. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL, SEVERAL AREAS THAT ARE KIND OF DEAD AREAS IN TRYING TO GET INTO MERGING TRAFFIC AND IT'S, IT'S QUITE, UH, CONGESTED SOMETIMES AND STUFF BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE VERY WELL, NOT ONLY HERE AT, UH, WHERE GREENTOP COMES IN, BUT FURTHER, UH, FURTHER NORTH THERE ON TOPPER WINE AND DOWN HERE BY THE, BY THE RAILROAD TRACKS IS, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY BAD. 
          UH, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT, UH, LIGHTS AND STUFF THERE. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          I CAN'T THINK OF, UH, CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE OFF HAND THAT, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE KEPT IN THE LOOP AS TO WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DECIDED, UH, IN, UM, UH, FOR, FOR THE TRAFFIC FOR TOPER WINE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED QUITE A BIT AND STUFF FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DOUBLING UH, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MR. SAWYER. 
          ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA HAVE STAFF COME FIND YOU IN A LITTLE BIT AND ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE COME FIND YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU CAN EITHER GO BACK TO THE TOBIN ROOM, WHICH IS WHERE YOU WERE , RIGHT THERE, OR UH, STAY HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT AND WE'LL GET SOME PEOPLE TO TALK TO YOU. 
          OKAY? THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, MS. LON. 
          OKAY, I WOULD LIKE THAT TO STOP . 
          MS. LON, IS THAT YOU MA'AM? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST, WHENEVER I HAVE A CHANCE, I CAN SPEAK, TALK TO ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS, THEY'LL, THEY'LL SEE IF WE CAN HELP YOU OUT. 
          MS. LON, HOW ARE YOU? HI, HOW ARE YOU? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 
          MY NAME'S JESSICA LON. 
          UM, MY ADDRESS IS 1 4 7 1 9 HILLSIDE RIDGE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MY NAME'S JESSICA. 
          I'M DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE PROPOSED CHANGES AT MY HOME'S AS MY HOME BACK BACKS UP TO THE FARM. 
          I BOUGHT MY HOME AS A SINGLE MOTHER A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS AGO AND CHOSE THE HOME FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, BUT THE MAIN ONE WAS THE FARM. 
          SORRY, I'M CHEWING GUM. 
          IT'S TERRIBLE. 
          MY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ONCE PART OF THE LARGER FARM AND SOLD OFF BITS AT A TIME AND HOMES DEVELOPED IN THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES. 
          I'M NO CONSTRUCTION PROFESSIONAL, BUT I DON'T THINK IT TAKES ONE TO REALIZE THAT IT WAS QUICKLY AND POORLY DONE. 
          I REALIZED THAT FOUNDATION PROBLEMS ARE COMMON IN THE AREA ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT EVEN THE FOUNDATION COMPANY WHO REPAIRED MINE IN 2022 SAID IT WAS THE WORST IT'D EVER SEEN. 
          IF YOU ARE A FAN OF ROLLERCOASTER, PLEASE DRIVE THROUGH THE STREETS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UH, THE BUMPS AND BRAKES IN THE ROAD WILL CAUSED BY MODERN MAIN BREAKS AND YEARS OF QUICK FIXES WILL BE SURE TO SATISFY YOUR THRILL SEEKING NEEDS. 
          UM, I SAY THESE THINGS BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT DESPITE THE TENS OF THOUSANDS DOLLARS I'VE SPENT TO REPAIR MY HOME, CAUSED BY THE DAMAGE OF THE SHAKY GROUND, UM, I'VE CHOSEN TO STAY BECAUSE OF THE FARM. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT, MAY I FINISH? IT'S JUST A, OH NO, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER MINUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, 
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I, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE FARM IS PLOWED DOWN AND HOUSES QUICKLY CONSTRUCTED JUST AS HAS HAPPENED TO MY HOME AND MANY OTHERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THOSE LITTLE BOXES WILL CRUMBLE. 
          AS MUCH AS I WISH THIS WAS WASN'T THE CASE, I DON'T SEE THE CURRENT RESIDENTS WINNING THIS BATTLE. 
          MY GUESS IS THAT THE HEARING IS JUST LEGAL PROTOCOL AND THE DEAL IS AS GOOD AS DONE. 
          WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE THE CURRENT RES RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS SURROUNDING THE FARM TO BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO VOICE, UM, GIVEN A VOICE WHEN DECIDING ON A, THE DRAINAGE FOR THE SO-CALLED PLANS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE SURROUNDING TREE AND FENCE LINE. 
          IF I'M GOING TO BE FORCED TO LOSE MY VIEW AND VISITS WITH THE COWS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT MY BACKYARD IS SAFE FROM INTRUDERS WITH EASY ACCESS TO THE MAIN ROAD AND THAT THE INTEGRITY OF MY YARD IS PROTECTED BY A FENCE LINE OR WALL THAT WILL PREVENT UNWANTED DRAINAGE TO MY YARD AND THAT MY PRIVACY CONTINUES TO BE UPHELD AS UPHELD AS IT AS IT IS NOW WITH ZERO LINE OF SIGHT INTO MY HOME. 
          THIS INCLUDES PRIVACY, FENCING AND MAINTAINING EXISTING TREES. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. BE OKAY. 
          THAT IS YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, WE WILL AGAIN HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE SEEK YOU OUT AS WELL AS THE CASE MANAGER. 
          OKAY? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT, NEXT VOICEMAILS PLEASE. 
          WELL ACTUALLY WE HAVE MORE SPEAKERS. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, MS. SONYA SIMMONS. 
          SO ONE MORE WAS OPTIMISTIC, HUH? . 
          AND UM, SHE SIGNED UP FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST TO CUT IT SHORT, MS. SIMMONS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN TELL US WHAT YOU UH, SONYA SIMMONS 67 10 WINTER PATH DRIVE IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 3 3. 
          AND TO CUT IT SHORT, EXACTLY WHAT SHE SAID, I'M RIGHT THERE, THEY'RE RIGHT BEHIND ME. 
          UM, IT COSTS ME OVER 30,000 ON FOUNDATION ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE SOIL AND THE DRAINAGE IS OFF AND IT'S JUST TERRIBLE AND I KNOW THEY DO ANY TYPE OF THING BACK THERE. 
          IT'S GONNA CREATE MORE OF A HASSLE FOR ME. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT NEXT. 
          SO THAT IS IT FOR FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. NOW WE CAN LISTEN TO VOICEMAILS. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S DO VOICEMAILS. 
          YES, THIS IS ROSEFIELD, PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HEAD LINE TABLE ASSOCIATION CALLING REGARDING THE ZONING ZONING CASE D 2 2 5 107 0 1 9 1 PROPERTY, UH, AT OKAY, 1421 AUSTIN STREET. 
          UH, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, ZONING CHANGE. 
          UH, THE OWNER HAS BEEN, UH, COMING TO OUR MEETINGS AND HAS TO FULLY, UH, EXPLAIN ON WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO. 
          WE HAD, DID HAVE A CONCERN REGARDING PARKING, BUT THAT PROBLEM HAS BEEN RESOLVED. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BE SHARING PARKING WITH THE, UH, THE, THE ADJOURNMENT, UH, UH, OWNERS OF THE OTHER, UH, BUSINESSES WITHIN A COMPLETE AREA BLOCK SO THEY WILL NOT BE PARKING ON THE STREET. 
          ANYWAYS, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT AND WE ASK THAT YOU, UH, REPORT, UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN FOR THE OWNER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, GOOD MORNING. 
          THIS IS ROSE HILL, UH, PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE CHAMBER ASSOCIATION, UH, CALLING REGARDING TODAY'S ZONING, KZ DR. 
          ZEBRA 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 2 1 4 IN DISTRICT TWO, UH, WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU SUPPORT ITEM NUMBER 14. 
          UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE AND THE OWNER HAVE, UH, BEEN VERY, VERY, UH, SUPPORTIVE IN COMING TO OUR MEETING, EXPLAINING TO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND THE COMMUNITY IS IN FAVOR AS WELL. 
          SO PLEASE VOTE YES FOR ITEM NUMBER 14. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          HI, MY NAME IS STEVE STEIG WITH GOVERNMENT HILL TOMORROW COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. 
          I'M CALLING ABOUT, UH, THE CASE AT 1 23 AND 1 31 SEIN STREET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ALTHOUGH OUR ORGANIZATION AS A WHOLE REMAINS NEUTRAL AS WE CANNOT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, UH, THIS IS A EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS, I THINK TOO I INTENT OF A CHANGE. 
          THE, THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS, IS NOT ONLY R TWO DUE TO THE LARGE AREA REZONING THAT WAS JUST DONE. 
          THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES ARE R TWO ACROSS THE STREET IS R SIX ACROSS THE SIDE STREET. 
          AND THIS IS JUST TWO ATTEMPTS OF THE DIFFERENCE. 
          I THINK, UM, THE, UH, THEY COULD CONSIDER CONDITIONAL USE OR SOMETHING. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S INTENDED FOR THIS PROPERTY, BUT THIS IS JUST TOO INTENSE OF THE ZONING, ZONING CHANGE AND ALLOWS, UH, BESIDES COMMERCIAL, THIS IS ALLOWING, UH, 65 UNITS PER ACRE UNDER THE NEW STATE LAW. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS JUST SIMPLY TOO INTENSE WITHOUT A MORE SPECIFIC CONDITIONAL USE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY NAME IS LIO MARTINEZ WITH THE VEHICLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION 22 
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SAN REGARDING THE ZONING CASE, UH, 2 1 8. 
          UH, WE CANVASED THE BOARD AND WE DECIDED IN OPPOSITION THAT THE ZONING CASE, BUT WE HAD AGREED WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES ONLY WITH THE OWNER BUT NOT FULL SERVICE. 
          UM, IF, IF THIS, UH, FULL SERVICE WILL INDICATE THAT THERE'LL BE NO PAINTING, UH, VEHICLE PAINTING, UH, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT. 
          BUT THE CONDITIONAL USES FROM OTHER CELLS WITH THE OWNER, WE HAD AGREED WITH THAT, BUT THEN THEY HAD A FULL SERVICE. 
          LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY THING THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS IF THEY'LL START PAINTING CARS AT THAT PROPERTY. 
          SO IF HE CAN, UH, STIPULATE THAT THERE'LL BE NO PAINTING, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND AGREE AND LET THIS ZONING CASE PASS. 
          BUT OTHERWISE IF HE DOESN'T DO THAT, THEN WE OPPOSE THIS ZONING CASE AS IT'S WRITTEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, AGAIN, THIS IS EZ, THE  NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          WE DID CANVAS THE BOARD AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS CYNTHIA WALKER. 
          UM, I LIVE AT TEN THIRTY EIGHT WEST SUMMIT AVENUE, PHONE NUMBER (818) 489-2599. 
          I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE Z 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 2 2 3. 
          PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 10 21 CAPITAL. 
          I'M CALLING FOR BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          I WILL READ OUR LETTER. 
          BAHAMAS ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE VOTED ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2025 TO SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE AT 10 21 CAPITAL FROM C3 NA TO R THREE. 
          WE DO THIS SO THAT THE OWNER WILL BE ABLE TO PULL PERMITS TO COMPLETE THE IMPROVEMENT TO THE PROPERTY AND ALSO AS THIS DOWNSIZING WILL BRING THE ZONING LINE WITH OUR MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, WHICH INDICATES LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THIS PROPERTY. 
          WE CAN TELL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST. 
          WE WANT TO COMMEND THE OWNER FOR ATTENDING OUR MEETING AND DISCUSSING THEIR PLANS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, IN LIGHT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT, ANYONE WANNA PULL ANY ITEM? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION. 
          MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. 
          I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. NUMBER 2 4 5 7 9 11 AS AMENDED. 
          12 13 14, 15, 17 AS AMENDED. 
          AND 20 WHAT ABOUT 16? 16 AND 16. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THE CHAIR. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 2 4 5 7 9 11 AS AMENDED. 
          12 13, 14 15, 16, 17 AS AMENDED. 
          AND 20 BY COMMISSIONER HUEY. 
          UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BARTOS. 
          UH, DISCUSSION WILL LEFT. 
          SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING REMOTELY. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER LO? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. 
          CHAIR BUS, SAMANTHA. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS AND ONLY THOSE ITEMS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO GO ABOUT YOUR DAY. 
          YOU ARE HEADING TO CITY COUNCIL NOW WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. 
          UH, THE ITEM HAS TO BE HEARD AT CITY COUNCIL WITHIN SIX MONTHS, BUT Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY. 
          TAKE CARE. 
          YOU'RE GOOD? MM-HMM . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND FOR STAFF'S INFORMATION THAT LOOKS LIKE IT OPENED UP AT LEAST EIGHT SEATS, SO IF, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE TOBIN, LET'S, LET'S BRING THEM IN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, IF WE CAN MOVE ON NOW TO OUR FIRST CONTINUANCE DOCKET FOR OUR FIRST CONTINUANCE ITEM. 
          ITEM NUMBER SIX IS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE OCTOBER 21ST MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          AGAIN, ONE OF MY CASES, SO NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE. 
          I MOVE, UH, TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER SIX TO OUR OCTOBER 21ST, 2025 MEETING. 
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IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSIONS? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE. 
          LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. 
          LOOKING REMOTELY. 
          ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE. 
          ITEM NUMBER SIX TO OCTOBER 21ST, 2025. 
          UH, ROLL CALL. 
          VOTE PLEASE. 
          I'M GONNA TRY. 
          COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER BARROWS? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER LO? YES. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. 
          COMM COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HUI. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. 
          AND THAT SHOULD BE, OH, COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. 
          MOTION MOVES FOR CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          APPROVED. 
          YEAH. 
          CONTINUANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
           SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT ONE THROUGH. 
          ALRIGHT DES WE'RE GOING BACK TO YOU ON THE NEXT ONE THOUGH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OUR NEXT CONTINUANCE HEARING IS TO THE, UH, NOVEMBER 4TH, CORRECT. 
          ITEM NUMBER 22 IS REQUESTING A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE NO NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND THIS IS A DISTRICT 10 CASE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? OH, I, I'M SO SORRY. 
          READING THAT. 
          MY MOTION IS TO, UH, FOLLOW WHAT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED AND, UH, CONTINUE IT, UH, UNTIL THE, UH, NOVEMBER OF NOVEMBER 4TH UNTIL NOVEMBER 4TH. 
          YES. 
          2025. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IS THERE, THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE A SECOND THAT? ALRIGHT. 
          THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 4TH BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER REBATO. 
          ROLL CALL. 
          VOTE PLEASE. 
          COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER BARROS? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER LOA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER PI RODRIGUEZ? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. 
          CHAIR WITH SAMANTHA. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT IF YOU ARE HERE FOR EITHER ITEM SIX OR 22, UH, WE'LL SEE YOU IN EITHER TWO OR FOUR WEEKS SO Y'ALL CAN GO ENJOY YOUR DAY AND VISIT US AGAIN. 
          ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING DOCKET. 
          WOULD YOU CALL THE FIRST ITEM PLEASE? ALL RIGHT. 
          THE FIRST ITEM IS NUMBER THREE, ZONING CASE Z 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 1 5 7. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS ASHLEY AL, SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          ITEM NUMBER THREE IS CASE NUMBER Z 20 25 107 0 0 1 5 7 LARGE AREA REZONING GENERALLY BOUNDED BY FROST BANK CENTER DRIVE TO THE WEST. 
          THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD TRACKS TO THE NORTH SOTO CREEK TO THE EAST AND WILLOW SPRINGS GOLF COURSE TO THE SOUTH GOING FROM I TWO I ONE AND C TWO TWO LC THREE C3 CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR. 
          FACILITY C3 S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR MACHINERY TOOLS AND CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT. 
          SALES AND SERVICE C TWO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE, FLEX SPACE FOR MACHINERY TOOLS AND CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT. 
          SALES AND SERVICE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES. 
          CONTRACTORS FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK FOR MANUFACTURED HOME SLASH OVERSIZED VEHICLE. 
          SALES SERVICE OR STORAGE FOR FREIGHT DEPOT FOR PLASTIC VINYL MANUFACTURING OR PROCESSING FOR METAL PRODUCTS. 
          FABRICATION FOR GASOLINE FILLING STATION. 
          FLEET FOR VOCATIONAL TRADE OUTSIDE STORAGE AND TRAINING AREA PERMITTED R FIVE IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO AND RM SIX IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 25 AND IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN RM SIX WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING UNCHANGED. 
          COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO ISSUED A CCR ON OCTOBER 3RD, 2024 AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION ON FEBRUARY 27TH, 2025 DIRECTING THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO INITIATE A LARGE AREA REZONING GENERALLY LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE UNITED HOMEOWNERS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          THE PROPOSED LER AIMS TO ALIGN ZONING WITH EXISTING LAND USE SUPPORT, FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT AND PROTECT RESIDENTS FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES. 
          THERE IS A TOTAL OF 410 SUBJECT PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED A MIXTURE OF I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING 67 
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PROPOSED REZONING CHANGES. 
          THE MAJORITY GOING FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. 
          11 FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO SINGLE FAMILY OR IDZ AND FOUR OTHERS FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL STAFF IS PROPOSING 49 PLAN AMENDMENTS TO THE ARENA DISTRICT EAST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN WHICH WILL GO BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION TOMORROW ON OCTOBER 8TH. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ESTABLISHED A TASK FORCE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON JULY 7TH. 
          STAFF NOTICED ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE SUBJECT AREA AND HELD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN AUGUST AT THE BARBARA JORDAN COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          THE PROJECT WILL GO BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 8TH AND TENTATIVELY CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 6TH FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION. 
          STAFF POSTED FOUR SIGNS IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS WITHIN THE SUBJECT AREA. 
          454 NOTICES WERE MAILED. 
          104 IN FAVOR, 19 IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET. 
          ONE IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED. 
          AND THE UNITED HOMEOWNERS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE IS IN SUPPORT. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. 
          VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, LET'S BEGIN WITH THE VOICEMAILS. 
          LET ME ASK THIS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WAS HERE TODAY. 
          DID ANY OF Y'ALL LEAVE VOICEMAILS? ANYONE? YOU DID MA'AM? YES. 
          WOULD YOU PREFER TO HAVE YOUR VOICEMAIL PLAYED OR YOUR OR OR TO SPEAK? I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET THE VOICEMAIL STAND. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHAT IS YOUR NAME MA'AM? VERONICA. 
          LAST NAME. 
          S-A-N-C-E-S-A-N-C-E? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT VERONICA. 
          AND I'M GONNA SAY SANS IF I MISPRONOUNCE THAT, I APOLOGIZE. 
          YOU'RE CLOSE ENOUGH. 
          . 
          SOMETIMES THAT'S ALL I CAN DO. 
          . 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO YES, CAN I? YES SIR. 
          WILLIAM HOWELL VOICEMAIL I LIKE TO GIVE  TO CLIFF. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S PULL MR. HOWELL FROM THE VOICEMAILS AND HE WILL GIVE HIS TIME TO CLIFF. 
          DO YOU KNOW CLIFF'S LAST NAME? S SEL. 
          DANIEL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND HE IS MR. HOWELL IS GIVING HIS TIME TO MR. SENNO. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT'S HIS FIRST NAME? WHAT'S YOUR FIRST NAME? WILLIAM. 
          WILLIAM, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, ANYONE ELSE? LAST CALL. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S BEGIN WITH THE VOICEMAIL PLEASE. 
          I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER THREE. 
          MY NAME IS BEVERLY IGEL PARK WITH AN I I LIVE AT 38 0 6 WILLOW WOOD BOULEVARD IN THE WILLOW WOOD ESTATE SUBDIVISION. 
          I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE REZONING AND I WANT TO SAY YES, DEFINITELY I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING AND I'LL REPEAT THAT. 
          I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THIS IS RUTH ADAMS 24TH ON CHATTO DRIVE DRIVE 7 36 SUNDAY 2 2 0 9. 
          UH, I NUMBER THREE CASE NUMBER IS B 2 0 2 5 1 0 7 0 0 1 5 7. 
          AND I AM IN FAVOR, UM, OF THIS, UH, BECAUSE THE, UH, REDUCED TRUCK WE NEED MORE REDUCED TRAFFIC, UH, UH, BECAUSE THE LIGHT INDUSTRY USUALLY REQUIRES LIGHTER, UH, TRANSPORTATION, UM, AND GENERATES LESS NOISE MAKING OUR, OUR AREA, UM, MORE LIV AND PEACEFUL, MORE LIVABLE AND PEACEFUL. 
          SO I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HI, MY NAME IS CATO TAYLOR. 
          MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 870-0708. 
          ADDRESS IS 1 2 1 4  DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 9. 
          AND CALLING IN REGARDS TO NUMBER THREE, THE AGENDA TODAY REGARDING THE REZONING, I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M IN FAVOR. 
          MY NAME IS CLIFTON HO. 
          ADDRESS IS 33 19 WILLOW WOOD BOULEVARD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 2 1 9. 
          I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE, UM, REZONING. 
          UM, IT DOESN'T GIVE A NUMBER HERE ON THE SHEET. 
          UM, I 
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AM VOTING YES FOR IN FAVOR OF REZONING. 
          HELLO, THIS IS PERRY  FROM 1 3 0 2 PLANTAIN DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 9. 
          CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE CASE WITH LAST THREE DIGITS OF 1 5, 7 OR REFERENCE ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING. 
          WE, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DOES NOT HAVE A PLACE IN A COMMUNITY SUCH AS OURS. 
          THE INDUSTRIAL, A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WOULD AFFECT HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT ALSO, IF SHE THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY, WE DO HAVE BEST ELDERLY IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO NEED PROTECTION FROM THE EFFECTS OF HAVING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN OUR AREA. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          WE ARE IN FAVOR OF REZONING. 
          YES, GOOD MORNING. 
          UH, MY NAME IS GORDON M BENJAMIN, THE LAST NAME D-E-N-J-A-M-I-N. 
          I RESIDE AT 9 1 0 NORTH MITMAN STREET, APARTMENT TWO 13, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ZERO TWO. 
          UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 988-7048. 
          AND THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF THE CASE I'M, UH, CALLING ABOUT IS 0 5 4. 
          UM, I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION FOR A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DE DESIGNATION ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED HOME OWNERS IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION, UH, WHICH IS INCLUSIVE OF BOTH THE WILLWOOD AND MEADOWVIEW NORTH NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UM, WE'RE SEEKING A DESIGNATION OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FOR THE AREA AS OPPOSED TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION. 
          THE TWO RESIDENTIAL AREAS ALSO INCLUDE ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BELLA CAMERON PLEX PARK, UH, AND A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX JUST OFF  ROAD. 
          UH, THE NEGATIVE TRAFFIC IMPACT FROM HEAVY TRUCKS INCLUDE HIGH AMOUNTS OF DUST DEBRIS AND HAS UH, SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON RESIDENTS AS WELL AS ARE REPRESENT SAFETY HAZARDS OF THOSE WHO WALK OR CYCLE FOR EXERCISE THAT WE OF THE DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OF WHICH I AM VICE PRESIDENT FOR VOING, OUR SUPPORT FOR THE REQUESTED DESTINATION FOR THE ABOVE AREA ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED HOMEOWNERS IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY. 
          HI, GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS RA MALONE. 
          I'M PRESIDENT OF PALM LAKE EAST LAW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          MY ADDRESS IS PO BOX 3 3 3 2 1, SAN ANTONIO, 7 2 6 5 AND I CALLING IN SUPPORT OF CASE NUMBER Z 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 1 5 7. 
          AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS CASE. 
          ITEM NUMBER THREE IN PARTICULAR. 
          AGAIN THAT IS CASE NUMBER Z AS IN ZEBRA, 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 1 5 7. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY NAME'S JOSH RENO. 
          I'M A DIRECTOR OF SAN ANTONIO STOCKVILLE RODEO. 
          WE RESIDE AT 7 23 FROST BANK CENTER DRIVE AND WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE LARGE AREA OF MY CELL. 
          PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 254-6565. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY NAME IS JULIA M. GREEN AND LEO P GREEN AT 9 3 2 TARA DRIVE, BURLESON, TEXAS 7 6 0 8 AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE PROPERTY AT 36 11 TUSCANY DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 9, CASE NUMBER Z 2 25 0 7 1 5 7. 
          I AM IN FAVOR OF ZONING FOR THAT AREA. 
          YES, THANK YOU. 
          HAVE AN OUTSTANDING DAY. 
          BYE-BYE. 
          [00:45:01]
CALL THIS BACK. 
          I'M VOTING IN FAVOR FOR THE REZONING AND WILLER WOODS. 
          UH, MY NAME IS CAPTAIN DICKERSON. 
          I STAY AT 36 31 WILLOW WOOD AND YES, I AM IN FAVOR. 
          CALLBACK NUMBER IS 2 1 0 8 6 0 9 6 1 4. 
          AGAIN, IN FAVOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY NAME IS KELLY LOT AND I RESIDE AT 35 23 WILLOW WOODS BOULEVARD. 
          AND I WAS JUST CALLING BECAUSE I AM. 
          YES, I'M IN FAVOR OF REZONING, UM, FOR NO MORE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN OUR AREA. 
          MY NUMBER'S 2 1 0 6 1, 2 1, 5, 3, 3. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HELLO, THIS IS LESLIE ANTHONY, UM, ON 3 6 4 3 RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER PA 2 2 5 1 1 6 0 0 0 5 4. 
          UM, AND THIS IS THE ARENA DISTRICT EAST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN IS, I JUST WANT TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW. 
          I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO, UM, PUT THIS FORWARD. 
          UM,  YES, FOR THIS TO CONTINUE ON THE PROPOSED CLAIMS AMENDMENT CHANGES, UM, GOES HERE FOR THE UNITED HOMEOWNERS IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION AREA. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          THAT IS MY COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS MARIA, PATRICIA MARIA. 
          MY ADDRESS IS 34 0 2 CHATEAU DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 9. 
          I AM CALLING ABOUT PROPOSITION 0 0 5 4 AND UH, I AM VOTING FOR IT. 
          UM, REASON BEING IS BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT ARE DRIVING DOWN OUR STREETS, THE NOISE. 
          UM, ALSO ALL THE, UH, PEOPLE DRIVING FAST ON OUR ROAD NEXT TO OUR HOUSE. 
          THIS USUALLY HAPPENS BETWEEN UH, THREE AND FIVE AND THEN ALSO FROM EIGHT TO 10, UH, THERE IS A LOT OF, UH, NOISE, UH, AFTER HOURS WHERE WE HEAR ALL THE, UM, THE FORKLIFTS REVERSING, UH, THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. 
          UH, THE POLLUTION, IT DOES THAT, THAT COMES UP BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT WAREHOUSES THAT ARE WORKING. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU. 
          BYE-BYE. 
          YES, MY NAME IS PAMELA PLEASANT. 
          MY ADDRESS IS 1217 BANE DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE NINE. 
          MY PHONE NUMBER IS AREA (210) 882-0169. 
          AND I'M CALLING TO VOTE YES ON THE ZONING CASE FOR UNITED HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. 
          AND THE CASE NUMBER, THE LAST THREE DIGITS, R 1 5 7. 
          AGAIN, I'M VOTING YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNTY. 
          MY NAME IS PATRICK VAUGHN DILIN ADDRESS 1 4 5 4 6 BROOK HOLLOW BOULEVARD, SAN ANTONIO SEVEN EIGHT TWO THREE TWO. 
          PHONE NUMBER'S (210) 601-7059. 
          CALLING IN REGARDS TO UNITED HOMEOWNERS IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATES IN LARGE AREA REZONING CASES, UH, Z 2 0 2 5 1 0 7 0 0 1 5 7 AND PA 2 0 2 5 1 1 6 0 0 0 5 4. 
          CALLING TO REQUEST A STRATEGIC PAUSE ON THE DOWN ZONE FOR THIS CASE. 
          IT'S BEEN TOO MUCH, TOO FAST AND WITHOUT ENOUGH INFORMATION. 
          THERE'S A LACK OF CLARITY, A LACK OF FULL INFORMATION AND DISCLOSURE. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANT VALUE, PROPERTY VALUE THAT EXISTS FOR THIS CASE, THIS NEEDS TO BE PAUSED AND NO ACTION TAKEN AT THIS TIME, BUT MORE INFORMATION, GREATER CLARITY, AND A GREATER SHARING OF INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC. 
          PLEASE PAUSE ON THIS DOWN ZONING OF THIS, OF THIS CASE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          HAVE A GOOD DAY. 
          . 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS, UH, RAY RASHAD. 
          ADDRESS 34 0 7 CHATEAU DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE NINE. 
          [00:50:02]
PHONE NUMBER (210) 894-8427. 
          I'M REFERENCING ITEM NUMBER THREE IN REGARDS TO YES, IN STABLE REZONING. 
          UH, MYSELF, I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ANYMORE POLLUTANTS OR ANY TYPE OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN THIS AREA. 
          AND I, I BELIEVE THAT ALL THE COMPANIES DESERVES THE SAME AS WELL. 
          ALSO TOO, NOT TO HAVE ANY POLLUTANTS OF ANY SORT OR ANY TYPE OF MACHINERY OR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL THAT, UH, CAN REALLY MAKE, UH, A LOT OF NOISE OR CAN REALLY, UH, BACK UP TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH. 
          UH, AGAIN, I VOTE YES IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY NAME IS REGINA WILLIAMS, 38 0 3 WILLOW WOOD BOULEVARD. 
          I AM IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING BECAUSE IT WOULD BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY AND IT IS CASE NUMBER TWO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HERE ACTUALLY, CAN WE HOLD THAT FOR ONE SECOND? YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M GONNA PAUSE FOR A QUICK SECOND. 
          MAYBE LET SOME PEOPLE COME IN FROM TOBIN, BUT I'M ALSO GONNA TAKE A QUICK MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER BARDOS, A LONG TIME MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE SOON, BUT THIS IS ALSO HIS LAST MEETING AND SO I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE. 
          HE HAS BEEN A VALUABLE, PERHAPS INVALUABLE VOICE ON THIS COMMISSION. 
          AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. 
          WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU GREATLY AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE BOTH ON THIS COMMISSION AND TO THE CITY IN GENERAL, SO THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, PEOPLE OVER. 
          ARE WE GETTING PEOPLE OVER? I BELIEVE SHE'S ASKING THEM TO COME OVER. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE STILL HAVE VOICEMAILS. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE STILL HAVE 13 ON MY ACCOUNT. 
          YEP. 
          SO LET'S CONTINUE WITH THE VOICEMAILS THERE. 
          ROGER PERKIN CALL IT. 
          I WANT TO SAY YES. 
          UH, IN FAVOR OF REZONING 36 30 SCA ROAD, T-U-S-C-A-N-Y. 
          UH, MY NAME IS ROSE D DOSSMAN. 
          I'M AT THREE THREE ONE EIGHT WILLOW WOODS BOULEVARD. 
          MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 723-2926. 
          I AM CALLING ON ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          UM, I AM IN FAVOR OF RESOLVING. 
          YES, GOOD MORNING. 
          THIS IS ROSE HILL, UH, AND I'M THE CO CO-FOUNDER AND THE OWNER OF THE D TWO PRESENCE ROUNDTABLE, WHICH CONSISTS OF 30 NEIGHBORS IN DISTRICT TWO. 
          I'M CALLING THIS MORNING REGARDING ZONING CASE Z 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 1 5 7. 
          UH, THIS, UH, IN DISTRICT TWO, I'M CALLING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE THE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION OF ARMED SUPPORT OF ITEM THREE. 
          WE HOPE THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION WILL, COMMISSIONERS WILL VOTE YES IN FAVOR OF ITEM THREE. 
          UH, WE'D LIKE TO, THAT COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT POLLUTION FREE AND ALSO ANY FUTURE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT COULD ARISE. 
          SO PLEASE VOTE YES FOR ITEM THREE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          HAVE A GREAT DAY. 
          YES. 
          MY NAME IS RUTH SIM. 
          I'M AT 1330 FONTAIN DRIVE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. 
          AND IF THE CONCERN IS YOU HIA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AT, UH, 1:00 PM UH, TODAY AND TWO TOMORROW, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING, BUT I AM SAYING YES, I'M IN FAVOR OF REZONING. 
          OKAY. 
          I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING AT 1330 FONTAIN DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. 
          ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA SAY THAT'S THE END OF THAT MESSAGE NEIGHBOR AT 32 44 CHATEAU DRIVE IN THE WILLOW WOOD ESTATE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          MY NAME IS SARAH OLIVARES. 
          I'M CALLING TO VOICE, UM, BUT I AM IN FAVOR AND IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING THAT'S, UM, GOING THROUGH THIS CASE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          BYE. 
          MY NAME 
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IS CHANEL JONES. 
          I'M CALLING ABOUT THE REZONING IN THE UHIA NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, MY ADDRESS IS 3 5 2 2 WILLOW WOOD BOULEVARD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE NINE. 
          MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 618-1107. 
          I AM CALLING ABOUT THE REBELLING WITH THE INDUSTRIAL COMPANIES COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I'M WORRIED ABOUT MY HEALTH AND MY CHILDREN'S HEALTH. 
          WE DO NOT DESERVE TO HAVE POLLUTANTS IN OUR AIR AS WE COME IN AND OUT OF OUR HOME. 
          AND THEN THAT AIR THAT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE OF OUR HOME COMES INTO OUR HOME. 
          SO THAT WOULD POISON US OUTSIDE AND INSIDE OF OUR RESIDENCES. 
          WE ALREADY LIVE RIGHT BY A TRAIN TRACK, SO WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH INDUSTRIAL BIAS. 
          UM, I DEFINITELY BELIEVE THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE IN BEAR COUNTY AND OUTSIDE OF BEAR COUNTY FOR THESE COMPANIES TO FIND LAND AND TO BUILD THEIR LAND. 
          AND WE SHOULD NOT BE HAVING TO LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO BIG INDUSTRIAL COMPANIES BECAUSE YOU STAY IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND YOU LIVE AND YOU DRIVE OUT TO GO TO YOUR JOB. 
          YOU DON'T WANT ANY POLLUTANTS TO BE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE, POISONING OUR FAMILIES AND MAKING IT UNBEARABLE FOR US TO ENJOY OURSELVES RIGHT WHERE WE LIVE. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS SHIRLEY PLUMMER. 
          I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO REGARD TO CASE NUMBER HASHTAG PA 2 0 2 5 1 1 6 0 0 0 5 4. 
          I AM CALLING IN SUPPORT OF CHANGING THE U-H-I-A-L-A-R TO LIGHT MIXED USE, UH, ZONING RATHER THAN THE HARMFUL HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY NAME IS SUE BERG. 
          MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 0 3 CREEKVIEW DRIVE, SEVEN EIGHT TWO ONE NINE. 
          MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 825-4550. 
          I AM CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 2 0 2 5 DASH 1 1 6 0 0 0 5 4. 
          THE LARGE AREA REZONING PLANT. 
          I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE AREA SINCE THE LATE NINETIES AND MY HOME ON  DRIVE IS THE, IN THE BOUNDARY AREA THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION AS SOMEBODY WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE ORIGINAL ARENA AREA EAST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN PROCESS. 
          I'M GLAD THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE I BELIEVE PROTECTING THE LEGACY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE VALUABLE NEIGHBORS IN THAT UHIA AREA IS A VERY WORTHY GOAL. 
          SO TWO WOULD BE ENFORCING THE RULES THAT ALREADY EXIST. 
          SO MANY OF OUR CONTINUING CHALLENGES WE FACE SEEM TO BE RELATED TO THE BUSINESSES THAT DON'T FOLLOW THE PROPER PROCEDURES AND THE CITY'S STEADFAST HABIT OF NOT TAKING ANY TIMELY AND SUBSTANTIVE ACTION TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ACTIVE RESPONSIVE TAXPAYERS HERE FOR DECADES. 
          HI, MY NAME IS TASHA ADAMS AND I RESIDE AT THIRTY FOUR THIRTY ONE CHATFIELD DRIVE. 
          MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 846-7924 AND THE CASE NUMBER IS 1 5 7. 
          AND I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING TO LIGHT INDUSTRIALS FOR THE  THAT IS CAUSES LESS POLLUTION. 
          LIGHT INDUSTRIES TYPICALLY PRODUCE LESS AIR, WATER AND NORTH POLLUTION COMPARED TO HEAVY INDUSTRIES LEADING TO A HEALTHIER ENVIRONMENT. 
          IN ADDITION TO LOWERING HEALTH RISKS, RESIDENTS NEAR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREAS FACE FEWER HEALTH HAZARDS SINCE HEAVY INDUSTRIES OFTEN INVOLVE TOXIC CHEMICALS AND HAZARDOUS WASTE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THIS IS TONY NELSON. 
          I LIVE AT 36 26 BOULEVARD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 9. 
          THAT'S IN THE, UM, AREA NEAR FLEX PARK. 
          AND I AM IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING OF THIS AREA THAT IS NEAR US FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT HAS BEEN SURROUNDED BY FAR TOO MANY INDUSTRY, UM, TRUCKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR FAR TOO LONG. 
          THE FUMES, THE DUST AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS CAUSED IS REALLY A NUISANCE TO THE AREA AND IT IS A TOUGH CONCERN AS WELL. 
          UM, 'CAUSE OF ALL THE DUST IN THE AIR, THE AWFUL FUMES THAT ARE SOMETIMES PRESENT, IT REALLY AFFECTS US. 
          AND THIS IS A VERY NICE AREA. 
          SO I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL CONSIDER IT AND RESOLVED THE AREA. 
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THANK YOU. 
          BYE-BYE. 
          YES. 
          HI. 
          I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          UH, THIS IS A CONCERNED NEIGHBOR, A CONCERNED RESIDENCE IN THE AREA THAT THIS, UH, MEETING IS IN REFERENCE OF. 
          MY NAME IS MISS TONY, S-A-N-N-E-R SATTER, AND I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE OF IN FAVOR. 
          WE DO NOT WANT ANYTHING IN THIS AREA THAT IS GOING TO HARM OUR CHILDREN. 
          THIS IS A NEIGHBOR AND THIS IS A HOME FOR ME. 
          MY GRANDPARENTS BOUGHT THIS HOME WHEN I WAS A BABY. 
          I AM NOW 56 YEARS OLD AND I'M CURRENTLY STAYING IN IT NOW WITH GRANDKIDS AND I DON'T WANT ANYTHING IN THE AIR THAT'S GONNA POLLUTE AND ANY KIND OF HARMFUL F INSIDE OF MY GRANDKIDS, MYSELF AND ANY OTHER NEIGHBORS. 
          WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO LOOK JUST LIKE ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT IS. 
          I THINK THEY HAVE NICE RESTAURANTS AND PLACES. 
          THIS IS NOT A DUMP AREA, THIS IS NOT A WASTE AREA. 
          WE HAVE TO GET WASTE FROM. 
          LAST TIME BEFORE THROUGH OUR PIPES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THESE HOMES ARE BOUGHT. 
          WE ARE HAVE BOUGHT AND PAID THESE HOMES. 
          OUR PARENTS HAVE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR THIS HOMES BY THE SWEAT OF THEY BROUGHT. 
          AND IN THE NAME OF JESUS BY THE POVERTY BLOOD. 
          I REBUKE ANYTHING IN ANYBODY THAT'S COMING AGAINST TO MAKE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD A WASTE, A HAZARD AND A UNSAFE PLACE. 
          MAY GOD BE WITH EACH AND EVERYONE. 
          MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. 
          YOU ARE NOT LIVING IN A WASTE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU CAN'T COME OUTSIDE AND BREATHE IF YOU GO OUTSIDE AND BREATHE FRESH AIR, NICE BEARING, NICE EXPERIENCE, NICE RESTAURANT. 
          WERE THE SAME THING. 
          WE WANT TO, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OF 33 31 WOOD BOULEVARD WOOD IS SAFE. 
          THIS IS NOT A DARK WAY AREA. 
          TAKE THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          MY NAME IS ANTE AT JNCE. 
          TELEPHONE NUMBER TWO ONE THREE NINE TWO ONE OH THREE ZERO NINE ONE FIVE TWO NINE. 
          MY ADDRESS IS 36 54 STEIN DRIVE, B-E-R-S-A-I-L-E, LIKE THE PALACE IN FRANCE, I AM CALLING TO VOICE MY, UH, VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          I BELIEVE THE ITEM AGENDA NUMBER IS PPA 2 0 2 5 6 0 0 5 4. 
          I, UH, WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN FOR THE LARGE TRUCKING COMPANIES THAT ARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG BELGIUM, BRUSSEL PAULSON AND GI ROAD. 
          THE TIRE COMPANY COLON, C-O-L-A-N. 
          THEY HAVE TIRES STORED OUTSIDE VISIBLE THAT ARE COLLECTING WATER WHEN IT RAINS THE BREED MOSQUITOES, WHICH IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE TRUCKS, UH,  CENTRAL TRUCKING AND I DON'T KNOW THE OTHER NAMES OF THE OTHER TRUCKING COMPANIES, BUT THEIR DRIVERS FLY DOWN BELGIUM LANE WHEN THEY'RE TURNING OFF OF FROST PARKWAY, THEY FLY DOWN ELA ROAD. 
          THOSE AMAZON TRUCKS FLY OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT WHERE THEY JUST STARTED PARKING. 
          ARE WE GONNA LISTEN ? THAT'S, THAT'S TWO MINUTES. 
          IS THAT IT FOR OUR VOICEMAILS? THAT IS IT FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          YES. 
          AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO SPEAKERS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ONCE AGAIN LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, JUST IN CASE, SOMETIMES IT TAKES ME THREE TIMES TO HEAR SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY PROCESS IT. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE, WHEN THAT PERSON COMES UP TO SPEAK, STEP UP AND TELL US. 
          YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM YOUR TIME. 
          IF YOU'RE CALLED BEFORE THE PERSON YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO, JUST LET US KNOW TO WHOM YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR TIME. 
          ALRIGHT? ALRIGHT. 
          EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES UP TO SIX MINUTES. 
          UH, IF TWO PEOPLE GIVE SOMEONE THEIR TIME, FIRST WE HAVE CLIFF SENO AND IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE MAY BE GIVING YOUR TIME, GIVING YOU TIME. 
          SO MR. HOWELL HAS GIVEN HIM TWO MINUTES. 
          SO WILLIAM 
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AND MR. MITCHELL. 
          MR. MITCHELL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MR. MITCHELL, WHAT IS YOUR FIRST NAME, SIR? WILLIAM MITCHELL. 
          WILLIAM MITCHELL. 
          THE TWO, THE TWO WILLIAMS HAVE GIVEN THEIR TIME TO MR. SINI. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS CLIFF SANI 1314 FONTAINE DRIVE. 
          I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY, NOT JUST AS A RESIDENT OF WILLOW WOOD ESTATES, BUT AS A VOICE FOR HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES IN THE UNITED HOMEOWNERS IMPROVEMENT NA NEIGHBORHOODS, FAMILIES WHO HAVE ENDURED 50 YEARS OF NEGLECT UNDER HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING. 
          FOR OVER FIVE DECADES, THIS COMMUNITY HAS ASKED FOR CHANGE. 
          FOR DECADES, THEY HAVE LIVED WITH DUST UP IN THE AIR GOING INTO THEIR LUNGS, TRUCKS TEARING UP THEIR STREETS, POLLUTING AND THREATENING HEALTH AND THE CHILDREN'S FUTURES. 
          WE HAVE WAITED AND WE HAVE BEEN IGNORED. 
          TODAY WE ASK YOU TO FINALLY ACT TO CORRECT A LONGSTANDING WRONG. 
          TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING IS TO SAY THAT THESE FAMILIES DON'T DESERVE PROTECTION. 
          TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING IS TO SAY THAT RACIAL INJUSTICE AND ENVIRONMENTAL ABUSE AND ECONOMIC NEGLECT ARE ACCEPTABLE. 
          BUT TODAY, WITH RENEWED AND INNOVATIVE LEADERS, JUST AS YOU RIGHT HERE TODAY, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO CHANGE THAT HISTORY. 
          NOW, SOME OF THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES CLAIM TO BE, HAVE BEEN BLINDSIDED BY THIS REZONING. 
          SOME HAVE EVEN SUGGESTED SOME SORT OF CONSPIRACY, BUT LET'S BE CLEAR, THERE'S NO CONSPIRACY. 
          THE UHIA HOLDS MONTHLY PUBLIC MEETINGS OPEN TO EVERYONE. 
          THEY POST SIGNS ALONG BELGIUM, LANE GAMBLER PAULSON AND BRUSSELS ROADS FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO ATTEND. 
          WE'VE GONE DOOR TO DOOR. 
          I HAVE PERSONALLY SENT EMAILS FOR WHICH THOSE HAVE BEEN PASSED OUT TO SEVERAL BUSINESS OWNERS TO COME TO THE TABLE AND HEAR SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE. 
          DISTRICT TWO HAS BEEN COPIED ON SOME OF THOSE EMAILS, AND I IMAGINE THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE ASKED TO SEE THOSE, THOSE BUSINESSES PUT, LET'S PUT THIS ON THE RECORD. 
          THOSE BUSINESSES CHOSE NOT TO ENGAGE. 
          THEY IGNORED OUR OUTREACH. 
          NOW THEY WANNA SLOW US DOWN AND KEEP THINGS JUST AS THEY ARE AND QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF THIS COMMUNITIES LONG FIGHT FOR BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS, CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER, AND SAFE STREETS. 
          THIS IS NOT AN ANTI-BUSINESS MOVEMENT. 
          IN FACT, WE'VE WORKED SUCCESSFULLY WITH MANY PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO STORM WORKS TO IMPROVE OUR DRAINAGE AT PLE PARK WITH THE SAN ANTONIO RODEO ON BEAUTIFICATION AND SHARED GROWTH WITH BEXAR COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION WITH RES CARE FACILITY TO SUPPORT THEIR WORK FOR ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES AND EVEN WITH THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD ON BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS, EVEN WITH STARBUCKS, WHICH HAVE PROVIDED MEETING SPACE AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT. 
          WE WELCOME BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO BE PART OF A STRONG EAST SIDE, BUT WE CANNOT KEEP SACRIFICING OUR HEALTH AND FUTURE TO THOSE WHO REFUSE TO EVEN COME TO THE SITTING TABLE. 
          WE MUST ALSO FACE THE LARGE ECONOMIC REALITY. 
          WE'VE ALL SEEN THE NEWS AND COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE SPURS LEAVING THE FROST BANK CENTER BY 2032. 
          THE OFFICIAL REASON IS THE ARENA IS OUTDATED AND THE AREA IS UNINTERESTING. 
          BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S JUST A POLITE WAY OF SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN A LOCATION SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL YARDS, TRUCK DEPOTS AND BLIGHT. 
          THAT MISTAKE WAS MADE DECADES AGO. 
          WHEN THE SPURS FIRST CAME TO THE AREA, CITY LEADERS SHOULD HAVE SURVEYED AND REZONED THE AREA TO BUILD A THRIVING ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. 
          INSTEAD, THEY LEFT THE AREA TO LANGUISH AS A WASTELAND OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. 
          NOW, THE SAN ANTONIO RODEO HAS A PLAN TO EXPAND INTO A YEAR ROUND EXPERIENCE, A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY. 
          BUT ASK YOURSELVES THIS, WHO WILL WANT TO VISIT AND STAY AND SPEND THEIR MONEY HERE? IF THE GATEWAY TO THE VENUE STILL LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE, WE CAN'T KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES. 
          IF YOU WANT THE RODEO TO THRIVE JUST LIKE WE DO YEAR ROUND, WE HAVE TO MAKE THE AREA A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE SAFE, CLEAN, AND WELCOMING. 
          AND THAT BEGINS WITH REZONING. 
          THIS REZONING IS NOT ABOUT SHUTTING DOWN BUSINESSES OR DRIVING THEM AWAY. 
          CURRENT OPERATORS CAN CONTINUE UNDER CONDITIONAL USE STATUS, WHILE THE POLICY PREVENTS NEW AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES FROM 
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HARMING THIS COMMUNITIES FUTURE. 
          MOST IMPORTANTLY, REZONING LAYS THE FOUNDATION FOR NEW INVESTMENTS, BETTER JOBS, CLEAN AIR AND SAFE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND A MORE VIBRANT EAST SIDE ECONOMY. 
          WE HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO TRANSFORM THIS CORRIDOR INTO A LANDMARK JUST LIKE THE DALLAS FORT WORTH DID WITH THEIR STOCK SHOW AND RODEO. 
          THE WINDOW'S OPEN, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE OPEN FOREVER. 
          COMMISSIONERS, THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN PATIENT FOR DECADES. 
          WE'VE ORGANIZED, DOCUMENTED, AND ADVOCATED IN THE OPEN. 
          DON'T LET MISINFORMATION OR LAST MINUTE COMPLAINTS DROWN OUT THE LIVED EXPERIENCE THAT THESE RESIDENTS HAVE CARRIED THIS BURDEN FOR FAR TOO LONG. 
          THE TIME IS NOW. 
          THIS FIRST PLANNED DEPARTURE IS A WARNING OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE FAIL TO INVEST IN THE AREA'S POTENTIAL. 
          BUT THE RODEO'S VISION IS PROOF TO WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE IF WE ACT BOLDLY VOTE TO APPROVE THE LARGE AREA. 
          REZONING HELP US TURN DECADES OF NEGLECT INTO DECADES OF OPPORTUNITY. 
          LET US FINALLY BUILD A CLEANER, SAFER, STRONG EAST SIDE THAN NOT JUST OUR FAMILIES, BUT EVERY FUTURE INVESTMENT AND FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS CITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. . 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL, UH, APPRECIATING A GOOD SPEECH, BUT LET'S TRY TO KEEP, UH, PUBLIC ACCLIMATION TO A MINIMUM. 
          SO WE CAN RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME IN THIS PROCESS. 
          CAN WE HAVE OUR NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE? NEXT WE HAVE JESSE, MODEL AND I WAS ANYBODY GIVING YOU THEIR TIME? YES MA'AM. 
          YOUR NAME, I'M SORRY. 
          MR. MODEL. 
          CAN YOU, UM, YEAH. 
          SO MS. MITCHELL'S GONNA GIMME HER TIME AND I HAVE LIKE A, A WHO ELSE WOULD? TOWNS MS. TOWNS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, MS. MITCHELL, WHAT IS YOUR FIRST NAME? CHERYL. 
          SH. 
          SHE I. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MS. TOWNS. 
          TOWNS. 
          BEVERLY TOWNS. 
          BEVERLY TOWNS AND SHERILYN MITCHELL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND YOUR, YOUR NAME JESSIE. 
          FROM 1318 FONTAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          SIX MINUTES. 
          UM, HOLD ON BEFORE YOU'LL START MY TIME. 
          SO THERE'S GONNA BE A VIDEO PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          SO EVERYTHING WE'RE SAYING, YOU'RE SEEING IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES, IT'S ON MUTE. 
          OKAY? PERFECT. 
          AND THEN I'M GONNA BE SPEAKING AND I'M GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH A LITTLE HISTORY CLASS. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          ON THIS SITUATION. 
          YOU GOT SIX MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU CAN USE IT HOWEVER YOU WANT WITHIN REASON. 
          OKAY. 
          HI. 
          SO BASICALLY, UM, OH, LET'S MUTE IT THOUGH. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEIRS. 
          AND WE HAVE IT. 
          WE HAVE IT. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          AND Y'ALL SEE THE DUST? Y'ALL SEE THE PORTA POTTY, THE POOP. 
          AND Y'ALL SEE ALL OVER OUR STREETS. 
          Y'ALL SEE ALL THAT? OKAY. 
          HISTORY CLASS ABOUT, UM, THIS, UM, AREA. 
          SO BACK IN THE DAY OF SEGREGATION, RACISM AND ALL THAT STUFF, UM, THEY WANTED A PLACE WHERE THEY WERE GONNA PUT THE ELITE BLACK AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES. 
          THERE'S MANY ARTICLES. 
          UM, AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE ELITE. 
          UM, YOU GUYS HAVE ALL THIS IN FRONT OF Y'ALL. 
          AND, UM, SO THEY WANTED A PLACE FOR IT. 
          WHERE ARE WE GONNA PUT THE BLACKS? LET'S THROW THEM IN. 
          HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. 
          THERE WAS NO INDUSTRIAL THERE AT THAT TIME. 
          NONE. 
          IT WAS JUST THEM. 
          BECAUSE PLETZ WANTED TO CREATE JUSTICE FOR THEM, CREATE AN AREA, A GOOD LIVING FOR THEM. 
          AND ALL THIS, Y'ALL COULD EITHER GOOGLE IT, Y'ALL COULD SEE IT. 
          ALL THIS IS ON RECORD. 
          SO BASICALLY NONE. 
          A LOT OF THIS STUFF WASN'T HAPPENING. 
          'CAUSE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL STARTED COMING IN THE AREA. 
          THEN THERE WERE SOME COMPLAINTS OF AREAS AROUND THERE SAYING, BUT THE BLACKS AND THE MEXICANS ARE GONNA LEAK INTO OUR AREA. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? SO THEN THEY CREATED ALL THIS. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE A COPY OF THIS. 
          THEY CREATED, I'M JUST GONNA READ A PIECE. 
          IT SAYS, SAID, PROPERTY SHALL NEVER BE SOLD OR LEASE TO NEGROES OR MEXICANS. 
          THIS IS STILL THERE TODAY, GUYS, IS, IT COULD BE A BEAUTIFUL DAY TODAY. 
          YOU GUYS ARE NOT JUST GONNA SAY YES TO THE REZONING. 
          YOU GUYS ARE GONNA MAKE HISTORY THIS AREA. 
          THIS SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. 
          THAT'S WHY THE GOVERNMENT AND OF COURSE CREATED, UM, THE CIVIL RIGHTS LAW, WHICH IS ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. 
          IT PROVIDES A POWERFUL TOOL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ADVOCATES TO HOLD GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS ACCOUNTABLE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL HARMS, ENSURING THAT THE BENEFITS OF HEALTHY ENVIRONMENTS ARE EQUALLY SHARED. 
          OKAY? WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO US ALL? THIS IS ON THE RECORD. 
          WE HAVE POOP ALL OVER OUR STREETS. 
          THE PORTA POTTIES. 
          DIDN'T WANT TO LISTEN TO Y'ALL, DIDN'T WANT TO LISTEN TO OUR AMAZING COUNCILMEN THAT ALSO HAS BEEN OUT THERE. 
          OUR COMMISSIONER THAT'S SEEN IT WITH THEIR OWN EYES. 
          THEY DIDN'T CARE. 
          SO WHAT DID A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES DO? THEY CALLED IN FAVORS. 
          HEY, WE'RE STILL GONNA BE RUNNING. 
          EVEN THOUGH THE CITY WENT THERE, CITED THEM, DID ALL THIS STUFF, THEY WERE NOT GONNA LISTEN TO THE LAW. 
          NOTHING SUPERSEDES THE LAW. 
          WHAT HAPPENED? WE STUCK TOGETHER. 
          THE PEOPLE UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED. 
          . 
          AND 
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WE WON BECAUSE THE COMMISSION SAW THAT THAT WAS NOT OKAY. 
          SO BASICALLY IMPLICATIONS OF GOVERNMENT AND CORPORATIONS. 
          ALL THIS IS IN THE LAW. 
          WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. 
          WE'RE NOT ANTI BUSINESSES. 
          WE, WE HAVE THE BEST RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RODEO. 
          THEY'RE TELLING US WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT FAILED US FROM THE PAST. 
          WHAT IS THE WRONG THING? WE DON'T WANT TO CRY ABOUT THE PAST, BUT WE GOTTA FIX THE PAST. 
          AND BY FIXING IT IS FIXING SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE A RECORD OF ALL THIS, UM, IMPLICATIONS OF GOVERNMENT AND CORPORATIONS. 
          THE RECOGNITION OF THESE RIGHTS CREATED A LEGAL FOUNDATION FOR INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITIES. 
          SO WHAT THIS MEANS, I READ THE WHOLE THING. 
          WE'RE COMING TO YOU GUYS LETTING, LETTING YOU GUYS TO POLICE ENFORCE THE LAW TO SEEK JUSTICE. 
          IT MEANS THAT GOVERNMENTS HAVE LEGAL ENFORCEABLE OBLIGATIONS TO PROTECT THESE RIGHTS. 
          AND ENVIRONMENTALLY DISRUPTIVE POLICIES CAN BE A CHALLENGE UNDER HUMAN RIGHTS LEGISLATION. 
          IT IS ALSO INFLUENCED IN THE BUSINESSES AND HUMAN RIGHTS AGENDA. 
          BASICALLY, THIS HAPPENS A LOT TO MINORITY COMMUNITIES. 
          SO NOW THIS IS A LANDMARK. 
          THIS WE GOT VETERANS, WE GOT SOLDIERS, WE GOT DOCTORS. 
          IT'S THE MOST ECLECTIC COMMUNITY TODAY, GUYS. 
          IT IS IN YOUR HANDS TO EITHER FIX THE PROBLEM OR BE THE PROBLEM. 
          A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME IS JESSE MELES. 
          I AM THE GRANDSON OF, UH, THE BIGGEST SOUTH TEXAS CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER OF MAN MELES. 
          THERE'S BOOKS, THERE'S A TV SERIES, BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT HIM AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          I ALSO ADVOCATE AROUND THE WORLD. 
          IF YOU LOOK UP JESSE MELES, I'VE BEEN WITH HALF A MILLION PEOPLE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND ALL THAT. 
          THIS IS IN MY DNA. 
          I JUST NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE TO FIGHT IT IN MY OWN HOUSE. 
          GUYS, PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. 
          WE'RE NOT ANTI BUSINESSES. 
          THESE PEOPLE, WELL, I'M GOING REWORD IT TO KEEP IT POSITIVE. 
          A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES, UM, DID BUILDINGS ILLEGALLY, UM, WORKED WITHOUT THE RIGHT TO EVEN RUN A BUSINESS. 
          THIS REZONING IS GONNA BRING 'EM INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES ARE GONNA BENEFIT OFF THIS. 
          WE'RE JUST SAYING IF Y'ALL DON'T WANNA SMELL S**T FOR THE HOLIDAYS, WE DON'T WANT TO EITHER. 
          IF Y'ALL DON'T WANNA HAVE DUST ON YOUR FOOD FOR THE HOLIDAYS, WE DON'T WANT THAT EITHER. 
          THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU MR. MENEZ. 
          NEXT WE HAVE, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, MS. EASTER BARBARA OR BARBARA EASTER, AND SHE'S TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. DOLORES. 
          WILLIAM WILLIAMS. ALRIGHT, MS. EASTER, IF YOU WOULD JUST YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. 
          YES. 
          MY NAME IS BARBARA ASER, 1326 FONTAIN DRIVE. 
          UH, I'M COMING IN, UH, SUPPORT OF REZONING THROUGH, UH, THROUGH THE UNITED HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. 
          WE, AS, AS SOMEONE WHO'S, UH, IN REMISSION FROM CANCER, YOU KNOW, IT IS VERY IMPERATIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE CLEAN AIR. 
          OUR FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, UH, OUR COMMUNITY IS A LOVELY COMMUNITY AND, UH, WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR BASIC RIGHTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. ESKER. 
          ALRIGHT, MS. DOLORES WILLIAMS, MS. WILLIAMS AND MS. WILLIAMS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MR. TOM ROAD. 
          FOLKS, IF Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP, COME UP TO THE PODIUM. 
          Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TO. 
          WE CAN GET YOU A MICROPHONE. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          IF YOU WANNA SIT OR YOU'RE UNABLE TO STAND, PLEASE JUST LET US KNOW AND WE'LL, WE'LL BRING SOMETHING YOU I CAN STAND. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          , I AM DOLORES WILLIAMS, KNOWN AS MAMA D BUT I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THE 34 35 BELGIUM LANE FOR 61 YEARS. 
          I WAS 30 WHEN I MOVED THERE AND I'M NOW 92. 
          BUT WHAT I WANNA SAY IS THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING. 
          I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE DUST THAT WE ARE GETTING NOW, BUT BEFORE THAT, I EXPERIENCED THE POTTY. 
          THE POTTY. 
          I EXPERIENCED THE GAS TRUCKS THAT WAS CROSSED FROM MY HOUSE WHERE I COULD SMELL THE GAS. 
          AND I DID GET IN TOUCH WITH CHIEF HOOD AND THEY SENT SOMEBODY OUT. 
          SO I'M GOING TO GIVE THE REST OF MY TIME, BUT I AM IN FAVOR OF RE REZONING. 
          OH, YES. 
          THANK YOU, MR. GLORIA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. TOM ROAD. 
          AND AFTER MR. ROAD IT'LL BE MS. UH, MR. WESTON MARTINEZ. 
          ALRIGHT. 
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OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. ROAD, YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES. 
          YES, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          TOM ROADIE. 
          I LIVE AT 200 REDWOOD. 
          I ALSO HAVE A BUSINESS AT 6 0 8 GIMBAL ROAD. 
          I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF ALAMO, KOA CAMPGROUNDS. 
          WE'RE THE LARGEST PROPERTY OWNER IN THE AREA. 
          WE HAVE 38 ACRES. 
          WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1967. 
          MY DAD AND I, MY TWO UNCLES BUILT THIS CAMPGROUND FOR HEMISPHERE IN 1968. 
          AND, UH, I THINK WE'VE BEEN A PRETTY GOOD NEIGHBOR FOR THE PAST 60 SOME ODD YEARS. 
          UM, WE ARE A, WE'RE NOT A CAMPGROUND, WE'RE A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK WITH CAMPING CABINS. 
          AND IF I ASK YOU WHAT A CAMPING CABIN IS, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA KNOW. 
          BUT IT'S NOT A MOBILE HOME, IT'S NOT AN RV, IT'S A CAMPING CABIN. 
          AND WE CAN PUT WHEELS ON 'EM AND MOVE 'EM OUT OF, IN CASE THE PROPERTY FLOODS. 
          AND THEN WE CAN'T FIND ANY DESIGNATION FOR CAMPING CABINS IN THEIR CITY ZONING LAWS. 
          SO WE DON'T THINK THE C TWO, EVEN WITH SPECIAL USE OF A RV PARK FITS US. 
          WE BELIEVE WE FIT UNDER WHAT TODAY WOULD BE, UH, MANUFACTURED HOUSING OR MANUFACTURED HOUSING PARK, WHICH SPECIAL USE FOR RVS THAT WOULD GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY. 
          SOME, SOME FUTURE CITY PERSONS MIGHT SAY, OH, YOU'RE IN NON-COMPLIANCE. 
          YOU HAVE CABINS THAT ARE LODGING OR LIVING UNITS. 
          AND WE ARE GONNA SAY, WE'VE BEEN HERE 60 YEARS AND WE'VE HAD CAMPING CABINS FOR THE LAST 60 YEARS. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T FIT OUR PARTICULAR BUSINESS. 
          THE, THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF YOU PUTTING C TWO ZONING ON US IS THAT WE COULD GO IN AND RECLAIM SOME OF OUR FLOODPLAIN AND BUILD 2000 A PART AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS. 
          I MEAN, THINK ABOUT THIS. 
          WE, WE, WE BACK UP THE NEIGHBOR'S HOMES UNDER THE NEW STATE LAW, WHICH THESE CITIES CAN'T REALLY GET IN THERE AND TRY TO BLOCK. 
          WE CAN PUT 65 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS PER ACRE ON 38 ACRES. 
          THAT'S 2,475 UNITS. 
          LOOKING AT THE WHOLE AREA, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THIS WAS ALL STARTED BEFORE THE STATE PUT IN THEIR C TO ALLOW APARTMENT DEALS. 
          IF YOU TOOK 400 ACRES OF, OF NUKE SEA ZONING AT THE FIXED 6,500 UNITS PER ACRE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 15, 20,000 APARTMENTS. 
          WHAT UNINTENDED CIRCUMSTANCES OR RESULTS WOULD HAPPEN TO DISTRICT TWO? I MEAN, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PUSHING FOR. 
          I'VE BEEN A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER HERE SINCE THE SEVENTIES. 
          I HAVE, UH, WITH MY FATHER, WE HAD BOUGHT MOST OF SATO CREEK UP TO FORT SAM AND WE'VE TURNED AROUND AND DONATED IT TO THE CITY. 
          MY DAD WAS FORMER MAYOR AL ROADIE BACK IN 1975 UNDER LALA COCKRELL. 
          WE, WE GOT THE CITY TO NAME THE DONATION. 
          WE GAVE THE AL ROADIE NATURE PRESERVE. 
          IT'S BETWEEN 35 AND FORT SAM. 
          WE ALSO OWNED ALL THE FLOOD FLOODPLAIN BACK TO WILLOW SPRINGS. 
          MY DAD WAS HEAD OF THE SLAUGHTER CREEK, UH, UH, PARK ASSOCIATION AND DEVISED WITH HOWARD PEAK, THE WALKWAY, WHICH WE GRANTED TO THE CITY ALONG OUR CREEK CLAN. 
          WE'VE BEEN A VERY GOOD NEIGHBOR. 
          I, I GOT CAUGHT TOTALLY UNAWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. 
          I DON'T LIVE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, SO WE'VE HAD TWO MONTHS TO REALLY GET IN THERE AND RESEARCH IT. 
          WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THIS NEW STATE LAW, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO EITHER HAVE YOU TAKE US OUT OF THIS REZONING REQUEST AND LEAVE US ALONE OR A ALLOW, ALLOW US AN MH OR MHP CLASSIFICATION WITH RV USE, SPECIAL USE, CONDITIONAL USE, AND BE DONE WITH IT. 
          I, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS DOING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S BEING HANDLED PROPERLY EITHER BY THE CITY OR OTHERS. 
          AND, UH, I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD SLOW DOWN AND THINK OF SOME OF THESE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I COULD TAKE A FIVE ACRE WAREHOUSE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. TEAR IT DOWN. 
          AND THAT IS YOUR TIME BUILT THROUGH, SIR. 
          NEXT PLEASE. 
          NEXT WE HAVE WESTON MARTINEZ AND HE'S TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. SHIRLEY ALLEN. 
          I WAS ABOUT TO SAY GOOD MORNING, BUT I WILL NOT. 
          I'M WESTON MARTINEZ AND I'M 1 4 5 4 6 BROOK HOLLOW. 
          UM, I SPOKE BEFORE YOU GUYS LAST YEAR, WHENEVER THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WAS TRYING TO REZONE, UH, ALMOST 40,000 ACRES AROUND THE TOYOTA PLANT AND 
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PUT 'EM, STEAL ALL OF THE RIGHTS OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND PUT 'EM INTO A ZONING PROCESS WHERE THEY COULD CONDEMN 'EM AND SELL THEM AT A MUCH LOWER VALUE. 
          AND I THANK YOU FOR THE TECHNICAL JOB THAT EACH ONE OF Y'ALL DO. 
          I KNOW THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS NOT MAYBE AWARE OF ALL OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND AND WHY YOU WERE SELECTED TO OVERSEE THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS. 
          SO IF I COULD HAVE THE CLOCK WHEN THE TIME STARTS, PLEASE. 
          OH MY GOODNESS. 
          YEAH, IT HAS STARTED. 
          SO DON'T, DON'T LET THE CLOCK RUN, KEEP TALKING. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          SO, VERY SIMPLY, THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, UNITED HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, NUMBER ONE, IS AN ACTUALLY A VIOLATION OF ITS 1972 CHARTER BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY IS NOT SUPPOSED TO GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ITEM RIGHT THERE, THIS IS A POLITICAL THING, WHICH IS CALLED ZONING. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TODAY, BUT JUST LIKE, UH, ANYTHING WE WANT THE TRUTH TO BE, TO BE OUT THERE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          TEXAS LAW PROHIBITS CORPORATIONS FROM ACTING, CAN I SEE THE CLOCK? SO I KNOW WHAT THE TIME I HAVE. 
          TEXAS LAW PROHIBITS CORPORATIONS FROM ACTING BEYOND THEIR CHARTERED POWERS. 
          SO EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE HAS POTENTIAL OF BEING SUED, NOT ONLY THE CITY, BUT ALSO THE MEMBERS. 
          AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT PRECEDENT, WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT THE PRECEDENT OF REMOVING THE RAIL YARD, REMOVING THE AIRPORT, REMOVING THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE IN THE FLIGHT PATH. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS FROM A PRAGMATIC ASPECT, WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AND THE REDLINING THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS REAL ESTATE COMMISSIONER FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS REDLINING LAWS INTO IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          THEY WERE BROUGHT HERE BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED AROUND SAN ANTONIO. 
          BUT IF YOU DO THIS, YOU'RE ACTUALLY REDLINING AGAINST BUSINESS OWNERS AND AGAINST THOSE PEOPLE. 
          AND IF THEY DO IT, IF YOU DO IT TO THEM, SOMEBODY COME BACK, CAN COME BACK AND TAKE ALL OF YOUR SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, REDLINE YOU AND MAKE YOU INTO MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING AND LOSE YOUR HOMES AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MARTINEZ. 
          SIR. 
          AS I SAID, THREE TIMES YOU HAVE TO DO IT BEFORE HE STARTS SPEAKING. 
          SO THANK YOU MR. MARTINEZ. 
          THANK YOU MR. MR. MONTE. 
          NEXT WE HAVE SHIRLEY ALLEN, AND SHE IS TO BE, UM, FOLLOWED BY DAISY RANSOM. 
          UH, WE, ALLEN, YOU'RE GIVING YOUR TIME TO WHOM THEY HAVE GIVEN IT. 
          WE SO OH, SHE'S ALREADY GIVEN IT. 
          OH, MS. ALLEN. 
          OR MAYBE SHE DIDN'T, BUT IF, DO YOU, DO YOU WANNA GIVE YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE? 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU DID. 
          I THINK, I THINK MS. MITCHELL AND I, CAN I GO ON THERE? NOPE, NOPE. 
          SORRY. 
          YOU GET SIX AND YOU'RE OUT. 
          IT'S THE SAME RULE FOR EVERYONE. 
          UH, WHO'S NEXT? DAISY RANSOM. 
          MS. RANSOM. 
          I WAS GIVEN MY TIME TO JESSE, BUT I CAN SAY I'M, COME COME ON UP HERE THEN COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM, MA'AM. 
          AND IF YOU WOULD JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. 
          I'M DAISY RANSOM AND I'M AT 36 46 VERSAILLES. 
          I'VE BEEN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO FOR AND WHERE I LIVE NOW FOR OVER ABOUT 60 YEARS. 
          AND I AM IN FAVOR OF REZONING. 
          AND I, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, I, I, EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID, IT'S, IT'S REALLY THE TRUTH. 
          SO I JUST ENDORSE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH IS. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU MS. RAMSON. 
          NEXT WE HAVE PATRICK CHRISTENSEN AND HE IS TO BE FOLLOWED BY UM, TAD ENGLEHART. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. 
          PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE. 
          I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF DICK PEACOCK, WHO HAS 10 ADDRESSES ON PAULSON AND BRUSSELS STREET. 
          I SAY 10 ADDRESSES 'CAUSE IT'S MULTIPLE, LOTS, MULTIPLE BUILDINGS. 
          I DO WANNA SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, NONE OF HIS BUSINESSES WERE ON THE VIDEOS YOU SAW HERE TODAY. 
          HE IS KIND OF GETTING SUCKED INTO THIS. 
          AND THE BIGGEST PROBLEM FOR HIM WITH THIS IS HE UNDERSTANDS I TOO IS PROBABLY TOO INTENSE FOR SMALLER WAREHOUSES. 
          IT'S MORE OF A MANUFACTURING DISTRICT, BUT WITH THE CDU C TWO CD FOR WAREHOUSING THAT THE CITY IS OFFERING HIM. 
          EVERY TIME HE GETS A NEW TENANT OR SOMEONE MOVES OUT, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO REZONE HIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS A, A DIFFICULT PROCESS FOR HIM AND AN EXPENSIVE PROCESS. 
          AND THE OTHER PROBLEM HE WILL HAVE IS TENANTS THAT, THAT WHEN HE GETS A VACANT SPACE, SOMEONE WANTS TO LEASE THE SPACE. 
          THEY DON'T WANNA WAIT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS FOR HIM TO HAVE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY. 
          SO WHAT DOES THAT DO TO HIM? THAT PUTS HIM OUT OF ALMOST OUTTA BUSINESS. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION AMONG SOME OF THE AUDIENCE THAT THIS REZONING WILL AUTOMATICALLY MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER AND MAKE EVERYONE LEAVE. 
          THEY, IT WON'T BECAUSE EXISTING BUSINESSES HAVE NONCONFORMING RIGHTS. 
          THEY WILL BE THERE UNTIL THEY DECIDE TO LEAVE BUSINESSES LIKE MR. PEACOCKS, WHEN THEY LEAVE, HE'S STUCK WITH HAVING TO REZONE EVERY SINGLE TIME HE GETS A NEW TENANT. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TODAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT WE HAVE TAD IGLEHART TO BE FOLLOWED BY KEN BROWN. 
          HE CAN HAVE MY, CAN HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MR. IGEL, IGEL 
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YOU WANT SIX MINUTES? YES. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE. 
          YOUR, YOUR NAME MA'AM. 
          IDA JACKSON GRAY. 
          UH, IDA JACKSON GRAY. 
          YES. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          YOUR, YOUR NAME. 
          DIANE RANSOM. 
          DIANE RAN RANSOM. 
          RANSOM. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU READY TO GO? ARE Y'ALL RELATED? THE TWO RANSOMS? UM, I DUNNO. 
           WELL, Y'ALL SHOULD FIND OUT. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. IGEL HART, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES. 
          SURE. 
          HOW YOU DOING? OKAY. 
          I HAVE, UH, HANDED OUT A DOCUMENT WHICH I PRE-WRITTEN FOR THIS SO THAT YOU COULD FOLLOW ME. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ARE A LIVING AREA. 
          WE WERE A LIVING AREA AND FARM AREA A LITTLE CLOSER. 
          WE WERE A LIVING AREA AND FARM AREA LONG BEFORE WE WERE A BUSINESS AREA AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. 
          I AM A LANDOWNER AND A LANDLORD AND I WAS RAISED IN THIS TOWN AND I FEEL I'M THE SON OF MANY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE RESPECTED THE PROPERTIES NEXT TO US. 
          I HAVE WORKED ALL OVER THIS TOWN, FORT SAM ALAMO HARDWOOD. 
          I EVEN WAS AT A, UM, UH, A METAL SHOP ON THE SOUTH OF TOWN. 
          BUT THERE WAS A RULE WE HAD BEFORE WE STARTED. 
          WE CLEANED UP THE PROPERTY BEFORE WE ENDED. 
          WE CLEANED WHATEVER WE CREATED OR WHATEVER WASTE WE HAD AROUND US. 
          THE ISSUE HERE HAS BEEN SIMPLY BAD NEIGHBORS, BAD ACTORS WHO SIMPLY DON'T WANNA FOLLOW THE ZONING RULES OR WHATEVER LANDS THEY ARE LEASING AS TO A CONTRARY TO SOMETHING. 
          HERE WE WERE UNDER THE PLE COVENANT, WHICH IS THE EARLY 1962, NOT UNDER SOMETHING IN 1972 AS SO SAID. 
          AND WE'RE STILL UNDER THAT PLEDGE COVENANT TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD AND A COMMERCIAL AREA. 
          WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE BUSINESSES HERE. 
          OUR PROBLEMS ARE WITH THOSE YOU LEASE TO OR SUBLEASE THAT DON'T WANT TO ACT CORRECTLY, THAT DON'T WANNA FOLLOW ANYBODY'S RULES AND, UH, SUBLET AND SUCH THINGS. 
          I'M A LANDLORD. 
          I DO DRIVE-BYS WITH MY PROPERTY. 
          I I HAVE PROPERTIES IN THE MAJORITY OF YOUR ZONES HERE AND I KEEP 'EM CLEAN AND HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE AREA AND DON'T POLLUTE. 
          SIMPLY SAID, UM, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE TOO MANY EXAMPLES, BUT I WILL GIVE THESE THREE. 
          ONE LARGE PROPERTY. 
          WE HAD TO DEAL WITH IMPROPER SEWAGE. 
          WELL, THEY WERE STILL USE USING A SEWER PIT. 
          ANOTHER PROPERTY TRUCKING COMPANY DECIDED THAT THEY SIMPLY CAN COMB AND SWEEP THEIR DEBRIS INTO THE MAJOR ROADWAY BEFORE THEY ENTER THEIR PROPERTY EVERY DAY. 
          WE HAVE ANOTHER, A HUMAN WASTE COMPANY WHO DECIDED THAT THEY COULD SIMPLY EMPTY THEIR TRUCKS INTO OUR BRAND NEW DRAINAGE, WHICH WE JUST RECEIVED FOR SEWAGE. 
          NOW I HAVE ONE AT THE END THAT I WANNA MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF, AND I WANT PERMISSION TO DO THIS. 
          I'VE HAD TO USE CODE COMPLIANCE AGAINST CITY PLOTS WHERE THEY WOULDN'T MAINTAIN OR HAVE A DECENT APPEARANCE OR ALLOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY. 
          I, THE VERY LAST PAGE OF MY WRIT, WE JUST WROTE THE CITY UP FOR NOT MAINTAINING THEIR OWN PROPERTIES. 
          THAT'S ME. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY, SIR. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. 
          NEXT KEN BROWN. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. BROWN THERE. 
          YOU'RE AND WHO'S, WHO'S NEXT AFTER THAT, HE IS TO BE FOLLOWED BY COLBY GUILLORY. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. GUILLORY, IF YOU WANNA MAYBE START HEADING OUT. 
          UH, KEN BROWN, UH, 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10, SUITE 1385. 
          UM, I AM ACTUALLY HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE LARGE AREA REZONING WITH SOME MINOR CHANGES. 
          UM, I, I DO REPRESENT THE RODEO. 
          UH, THEY WORKED OUT A DEAL, UH, REPRESENT FRANKLIN APARTMENTS. 
          THEY WORKED OUT A DEAL. 
          UM, AND THERE HAS BEEN PLENTY OF BACK AND FORTH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE. 
          UM, BUT MISTAKES WERE MADE, HISTORICAL MISTAKES WERE MADE AND, AND THINGS DO NEED TO CHANGE. 
          UM, I ALSO HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON PAULSON ROAD, AS MR. CHRISTENSEN SAID, THAT PROPERTY WAS ZONED TO I TWO IN 1957. 
          OKAY? IF I CAME TO YOU TODAY TO SEEK REZONING FOR A SINGLE FAMILY NEXT TO I TWO ZONING, YOU WOULD NOT GIVE IT TO ME OR YOU SHOULDN'T GIVE IT TO ME. 
          UH, NOR 
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WOULD THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SUPPORT THAT. 
          BUT OURS WAS ZONED IN 1957. 
          WILLOW WOOD ESTATES WAS ZONED FROM THAT I TWO TO A, WHICH IS THEIR SINGLE FAMILY DESIGNATION IN 1963. 
          THAT WAS A MISTAKE THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN DONE. 
          AND AS OFFENDED AS I AM ABOUT THE INAPPROPRIATENESS, UH, INAPPROPRIATENESS OF, OF I TWO IN THAT LOCATION, AND I AM, IT, IT, IT DOESN'T BELONG THERE. 
          I'M EQUALLY DISAPPOINTED OR OFFENDED BY PUTTING C TWO THERE. 
          UM, THERE, THERE WILL BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. 
          I THINK AT LEAST ON IN THE PAULSON ROAD AREA. 
          UH, AT, AT LEAST ON OUR PROPERTY, WE ARE SEEKING AN L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. 
          UM, I THINK IF YOU DO OURS IS, IS A RENTAL SPACE ALSO, OUR LEASE IS UP IN TWO MONTHS. 
          IF I CAN'T FIND THE NEEDLE IN THE HAYSTACK OF WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING, I EITHER GO OUTTA BUSINESS OR I COME REZONING EVERY SIX OR NINE MONTHS OR EVERY TIME I, MY, MY LEASE IS UP. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT EMPTY, EMPTY BUSINESSES ARE GOOD FOR, FOR PULSE PAULSON ROAD OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. BROWN. 
          THAT'S, THANK YOU. 
          UM, MR. GUILLORY AND WHO'S AFTER MR. GUILLORY? AFTER GUILLORY, IT IS MS. BARBARA RICE. 
          HELLO EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME IS COLBY GUILLORY AND MY ADDRESS IS THREE 20 MAJESTIC GROVE. 
          AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE LARGE AREA REZONING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COMMISSION. 
          I ASK THAT YOU ACT ON YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY IN GOING THROUGH WITH THIS PROPOSAL. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE UP UNTIL NOW ON BEHALF OF THIS PROPOSAL HAS BEEN WELL-INTENTIONED, WELL THOUGHT OUT AND THOROUGH. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THE I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY EXERCISED. 
          AND INSTEAD THE PEOPLE OF THE AREA HAVE SUFFERED FROM ITS EXCESSES FROM THE POLLUTION AND NOISE AND THE OTHER COMPLAINTS THAT YOU'VE HEARD THUS FAR. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL ZONING AT THIS LOCATION. 
          I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE CAN TRAP OUR CITY AND AMBER AND CAUSE IT TO PERMANENTLY BE PETRIFIED BY MISTAKES MADE 50 YEARS AGO, AS HAS BEEN PROPERLY ILLUSTRATED HERE. 
          I THINK THAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO IMPROVE AND GROW, IT MUST BE ALLOWED TO CHANGE. 
          AND BY KEEPING IT I TWO WE ARE ALSO HAMSTRING, THE RODEO, THE SPURS, THE CITY, AND THE COUNTY'S ABILITY TO CHANGE WITH THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. 
          I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO THE FLOOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. GILBERT. 
          NEXT, MS. RICE. 
          NEXT WE HAVE MS. RICE TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. RI RIDDLE. 
          MS. I'M SORRY, MS. RIDDLE. 
          RIDDLE. 
          OKAY. 
          MS. RISE, PROBABLY RISE. 
          OKAY. 
          TO WHOM WOULD YOU LIKE TO YIELD YOUR TIME? OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS MS. RICE'S TIME THAT HASN'T ALREADY SPOKEN? WHAT'S YOUR NAME MA'AM? LAQUITA SANTOS. 
          LAQUITA SANTOS? YES. 
          OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HOLD, WE'LL CALL YOU UP, BUT YOU'LL GET FOUR MINUTES. 
          YOU'LL GET MS. RICE'S. 
          TIME, PRICE, PRICE. 
          AM I, I AM SORRY. 
          MY RICE, I'M CLEARLY NOT HEARING WELL. 
          PRICE? NO. 
          WHAT'S THAT? ALRIGHT, PRICE. 
          MS. PRICE. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          MS. PRICE. 
          APOLOGIES. 
          WHO'S NEXT? UH, RIDDLE. 
          MS. BRENDA RIDDLE. 
          MS. BRENDA TO BE FOUR. 
          ALRIGHT, MS. SANTOS, YOU WANT THAT TIME TOO? YOU WANT SIX MINUTES? SURE. 
          GIVE GIVE IT TO MS. SANTOS. 
          NEXT. 
          UM, MS. KENDRA RIDDLE. 
          KENDRA RIDDLE BROWN. 
          KENDRA RIDDLE BROWN. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, MS. SANTOS IS ALL SET. 
          SO ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, LET'S, YEAH. 
          AND NEXT WE HAVE KEITH FARMER. 
          HAVE YOU WAIT, HAVE YOU SPOKEN SIR? NO. 
          WHAT'S YOUR NAME? I'LL TAKE ANYBODY'S TIME. 
          RI RIDDLE BROWN IS YOUR TIME. 
          IF YOU TELL ME YOUR NAME, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? OFFICER V OSCAR VINCE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MR. RIDDLE. 
          V VIX. 
          Y'ALL NEED MICROPHONES. 
          , UH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          WELL, WHO'S NEXT? NEXT WE HAVE KEITH FARMER. 
          MR. FARMER, COME ON UP. 
          ANYONE WANNA GIVE TIME TO MR. FARMER? ALRIGHT, YOU GOT TWO MINUTES? I'LL BE QUICK. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, A KEY FARMER FROM, UH, WHELAND FARMER'S COPPER. 
          WE'RE AT 1115 BRUSSELS AND 1103 BRUSSELS. 
          IT'S KINDA ONE BUILDING, BUT, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M AGAINST, UH, ANY CHANGES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A BUSINESS. 
          WE'RE IN A QUIET AREA OF THE, UH, IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN BRUSSELS AND PAULSON THERE. 
          UM, OUR NEIGHBORS ARE, UH, GOOD NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, OUR COMPANY IS, UH, ALL ABOUT SAFETY AND THAT INCLUDES ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY AND 
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KEEPING OUR PEOPLE SAFE AND MAKING SURE EVERYONE GOES HOME SAFE AND COMES BACK THE NEXT MORNING. 
          SAFE. 
          UM, WE'RE ALSO AN ESSENTIAL BUSINESS, WHICH I WOULD ASSUME MANY OF THE COMPANIES IN THE, IN THE AREA ARE, ARE ESSENTIAL. 
          UM, LIKE DURING COVID, UM, SUPPLYING, YOU KNOW, ENERGY, UH, PROVIDERS LIKE CPS ENERGY AND, AND OTHERS. 
          SO, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. FARMER, STICK AROUND. 
          I MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU OR ANOTHER COMMISSIONER MIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT, NEXT. 
          NEXT WE HAVE MR. ALONSO JONES. 
          MR. ALONSO JONES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOUR NAME MA'AM? MADDIE SHIELDS. 
          MADDIE SHIELDS. 
          MY NAME IS GRACE HILL AND I, MY CLIENT MR. JONES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'VE MISSED YOUR NAME NOW. 
          GRACE BENNETT HILL. 
          GRACE BENNETT HILL. 
          HILL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. JONES, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES. 
          AND I WAS JUST ABOUT TO CROW ABOUT HOW GOOD I WAS ABOUT THE FIRST NAME AND THEN I MESSED UP A SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. JONES. 
          SIX MINUTES. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          UM, WE COME, UH, BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY LOOKING FOR THE SAME THING THAT EVERYONE ELSE LOOKS FOR WHEN THEY GET UP IN THE MORNING, WHEN THEY GO TO WORK. 
          UM, THE DREAM THAT YOU HAVE IS TO HAVE YOUR HOME, HAVE YOUR AREA LIVE IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S SAFE FOR YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN. 
          WELL, WE HAD PARENTS THAT, MY PARENTS WERE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL OWNERS WHO DID THAT. 
          THEY BOUGHT IN THE AREA THEY BUILT AND THEY'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE AREA. 
          AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I HEARD IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ZONING WAS PROPERTY VALUE. 
          NOW, IF YOU TAKE ANY OF THOSE HOMES, I DON'T KNOW IF I, I CHALLENGE YOU TO GO LOOK AT 'EM, BUT IF YOU TAKE THOSE HOMES, THEY'RE, MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE BRICK HOMES ALL THE WAY AROUND. 
          IF YOU TAKE THOSE HOMES AND PICK 'EM UP AND MOVE THEM ABOUT THIS CITY, THEY'D BE WORTH DOUBLE OR TRIPLE WHAT THEY'RE WORTH. 
          BUT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT VALUE BECAUSE ALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS OUR BUSINESS. 
          BUT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR LIVING CONDITIONS, OUR HOME AND OUR LIFE. 
          OUR LIFE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE CONSISTS OF BREATHING FRESH AIR, HAVING CLEAN WATER, AND BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. 
          THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO. 
          WE ARE CONTINUALLY IN POSITION AS YOU HEAR ABOUT BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE FUNCTIONS. 
          THOSE FUNCTIONS ARE THE SAME THING. 
          ALL THESE PEOPLE WITH OUTSIDE OF OUR ADDRESS THAT HAVE SPOKEN ALREADY, THEY HAVE THAT ALREADY. 
          AND I GUARANTEE YOU THEY WOULD BE UP HERE IF WE TOOK THEIR BUSINESSES AND MOVED THEM IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE PROBLEM IS, THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTION THAT I'M HEARING. 
          ONE IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO LEAVE. 
          THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BE NEIGHBORS. 
          WE HAVE BEEN NEIGHBORS BEFORE YOU EVEN GOT THERE. 
          AND SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT THERE AND SOME OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S THERE, SOME OF THE OWNERS HAVE HAD 'EM FOR A LONG TIME AS MR. PEACOCK. 
          BUT THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS TIME IS NOT TAKING YOUR BUSINESS AWAY FROM YOU. 
          AND THAT'S ALL WE KEEP HEARING. 
          IF SOMEBODY MOVES OUT, I'M GONNA HAVE TO, ALL WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO, AS YOU'VE HEARD EARLIER TODAY, IS TO POLICE YOUR AREA, KEEP IT CLEAN LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO, AND CUT DOWN ON THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING BECAUSE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND LIFE DOESN'T GO WELL TOGETHER. 
          I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SO ANYTIME YOU ARE SPEAKING OF DOING ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT YOU ARE DOING AT THE PRESENT TIME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'RE SPEAKING AGAINST MY HEALTH. 
          YOU'RE SPEAKING AGAINST MY CHILDREN'S HEALTH. 
          YOU'RE SPEAKING AGAINST MY GRANDCHILDREN'S HEALTH. 
          AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE BOUGHT THOSE HOMES AND NOW THE GENERATIONS ARE STAYING IN THEM. 
          A LOT OF THE GENERATIONS ARE STILL IN THEM. 
          SO THEREFORE WE KNOW, AND WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS FIGHT FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UM, IN 2002, THE SBC CENTER WAS BUILT. 
          OF COURSE EVERYONE WAS FOR THAT. 
          UH, EVERYONE WAS FOR, WE WERE ABOUT TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. 
          WE IMMEDIATELY WON ONE. 
          SO EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY. 
          EVERYONE'S HAPPY EXCEPT FOR US CONTINUALLY. 
          WHY? BECAUSE WHEN THAT WAS BUILT OVER THERE AND EVERYBODY CAME OVER THERE, THERE WAS A PROMISE AGAIN, A PROMISE AGAIN. 
          AND IN THAT PROMISE THAT REZONING SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. 
          LIKE YOU'VE HEARD OF TODAY SEVERAL TIMES. 
          BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN WITH THAT PROMISE. 
          WE LIVE THROUGH THAT, THAT PROMISE IS NOW ABOUT TO BE CHANGED AND GO DOWN DOWNTOWN IF POSSIBLE, WHERE ANOTHER PROMISE WHICH WILL BE LEFT WITH ANOTHER BROKEN PROMISE. 
          WITH THAT BEING SAID, THOSE PROMISES NEED REZONING. 
          THEY'VE BEEN NEEDING REZONING AND THESE BUSINESSES HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THEM. 
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NOT SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T BE THERE AS BUSINESSES, BUT WHAT WE'RE CLAIMING IS THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT YOU ARE DOING. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE BUSINESSES. 
          AND THE K OE CAMP HAS BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR TIME BEING HERE. 
          BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT THE THINGS THAT WE ARE HAVING TO HAPPEN NOW, WHICH WITHOUT EVEN, WITHOUT EVEN HAVING, UH, GOING THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS AS, UM, MR. GERHART SPOKE OF EARLIER, WHICH IS BUSINESSES MOVING IN, THEY DON'T EVEN GET A PERMIT. 
          AND THEY CUT STREETS, THEY CUT CURBS, THEY BUILD HOUSES, BUILD BUILDINGS IS NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. 
          IT'S IN THE WRONG ZONING. 
          AND UM, I THINK THE UM, UM, THE CITY OVER HERE HAS FOUND THAT OUT AND THEY SEE THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE HAD A RASH OF THAT HAPPENING. 
          AND WHEN THIS HAPPENS, THEY BRING IN WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THEN WE HAVE TO KEEP FIGHTING TO GET IT OUT. 
          SO I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FIGHT IS TO ACTUALLY CONTINUE TO HARM US IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW WILL HARM US. 
          AND AS I STATED, IF WE MOVE YOUR BUSINESS TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WOULD BE UP HERE IN OPPOSITION EVEN AS IT'S OPERATING NOW. 
          AND SOME OF THEM OPERATE PRETTY DECENT, BUT JUST FOR THE CHANGE, THE CHANGE ALONE OF BRINGING YOUR BUSINESS TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE YOU IN OPPOSITION. 
          SO WE ARE SAYING RIGHT NOW THE CHANGE IN WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE WERE PROMISED EVEN OVER AGAIN, WHICH WAS LIFE, HEALTH, A GOOD LIVING AREA AND SOME BUSINESS THAT COME IN TO SUPPORT MINOR STORES, SMALL INDUSTRY, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          THE SAME THING THAT'S HAPPENING DOWN AT THE UH, UH, AT THE PEARL, THE SAME THING. 
          ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          OUR AREA CAN SUPPORT ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT WE DO NOT NEED MORE INDUSTRY. 
          WE DON'T NEED MORE INDUSTRY. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. 
          WE HEARD THAT EARLIER TOO. 
          UH, TALKING ABOUT, UM, SEEING US LEAVE. 
          NO ONE'S TRYING TO MAKE THEM LEAVE. 
          WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SEEING US LEAVE? WE HEARD ABOUT THREATENED BY LAWSUITS. 
          WE'RE THREATENED BY LAWSUITS. 
          WHY? 'CAUSE WE WANT TO LIVE, WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO LIVE. 
          WE WANT THEM TO BRING CLEAN AIR. 
          WE DON'T WANT THE CHEMICALS AND STUFF AROUND. 
          AMEN. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. JONES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE MS. LATA JONES, OR I'M SORRY, LATA SANTOS. 
          MS. SANTOS, YOU'VE GOT SIX MINUTES. 
          COME ON UP HERE. 
          AND WHO'S AFTER MS. SANTOS? AFTER MS. SANTOS, WE'LL HAVE MR. GREG. 
          BOY. 
          HI, I AM LAQUITA SANTOS. 
          UH, MY RESIDENCE IS 37 35 BELGIUM LANE. 
          UM, I'M ALSO A LENDER AT 8 1 9 T-I-M-I-L-O. 
          THAT'S TIMO DRIVE OFF OF GIBBLER ROAD. 
          UM, I WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK BECAUSE I AM THE BABY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THESE ARE ALL MY PARENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS BORN IN, UM, NORTH MEADOWVIEW. 
          UM, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS OF MY LIFE, I AM NOW HITTING 50, GETTING READY TO HIT 50. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, SO I JUST WANNA GIVE MY EXPERIENCE. 
          I JOG MY NEIGHBORHOOD ON A DAILY BASIS, ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          UM, WHEN I WAS LITTLE, I ALSO WENT TO THE RED BERRY MANSION THAT'S UP ON THE HILL. 
          WE ALSO, I ALSO ATTENDED, UM, THE KOA CAMP. 
          WELL, UM, AND THAT I EVEN HAD THE PLEASURE OF EVEN ACTUALLY STAYING AT THE KOA CAMP WITH MY HUSBAND RECENTLY. 
          AND, UM, OUR EXPERIENCE THERE WAS GREAT, BUT ALSO WITH THE INDUSTRIAL THAT'S BEEN AROUND US, IT'S BEEN A DAMPER TO EVERYTHING. 
          SO I AM FOR THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE EVEN US BEING AT THE KOA CAMP, THE DUST AND STUFF WAS VERY TERRIBLE AS FAR AS BEING THERE ON THE CAMPUS. 
          OKAY. 
          I, WHEN I SAY THAT I JOG, WE HAVE A TRAIL THAT GOES THROUGHOUT THE PARK AND ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, COMMERCE OR HOWEVER IT MAY BE. 
          AND I TAKE THAT TRAIL IN THE MORNING AND I ALSO TAKE THAT TRAIL AT NIGHT. 
          UM, AND THE POLLUTION OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AROUND IT HAS ASHLEY, UM, STARTLED ME. 
          I'VE BEEN AN ATHLETE ALL MY LIFE AND I ACCUMULATE, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOME ALLERGIES OF MYSELF. 
          WENT TO THE DOCTOR TODAY AND SHE STILL TELLS ME THAT I NEED TO TAKE MY ALLERGY MEDICINE DUE TO THAT, JUST LIKE HOW THEY REZONE AND HAVE TO PAY FOR REZONING. 
          WE ALSO HAVE TO REPAY AND FIX OUR HOMES. 
          I 
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HAVE CONTINUED TO DUST OFF MY HOUSE, DUST OFF MY AC UNITS, REPLACE MY AC UNITS. 
          UM, DUE TO THIS MATTER, I STAY BEHIND THE ARTISAN APARTMENTS OFF OF LEON VALLEY. 
          SO I'M RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE TRUCKERS THAT'S THERE WITH ALL THE POLLUTION AND STUFF THAT GOES ON, REPAIRING EVERYTHING AS A HOMEOWNER, IF YOU ARE A HOMEOWNER, IT COSTS JUST LIKE IT COSTS FOR THE REZONING. 
          SO I'M GIVING MY EXPERIENCE TODAY AS THE YOUNGEST AND HOW I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP FIGHTING FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I WAS RAISED IN. 
          AND I HAVE CHILDREN OF MY OWN AND THEY LOVE WHERE THEY WERE GREW, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY GREW UP AT AS WELL. 
          AND SO FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO UPKEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG WITH MY HOUSE, I MEAN THAT'S LIKE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. 
          LIFE. 
          I AM A FUNERAL DIRECTOR HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          I ALSO WORK AT BEAR COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER OFFICE. 
          SO LIFE IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          VERY IMPORTANT. 
          YOUR HEALTH IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          SO ON THAT NOTE, I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M FOR THE LIFE INDUSTRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. SANTOS. 
          UH, MR. BOY. 
          AND IT, I THINK IT'S O BOY. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          CLOSE ENOUGH. 
          UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, MY NAME'S, UH, GREG OB BOY. 
          UH, 2 7 7 7 5 STEVENS. 
          UM, I'M WITH, UH, CROWN ENTERPRISES AND CENTRAL TRANSPORT PROPERTY 1 39 GAMBLER. 
          UM, AND I HAVE, I WOULD SAY A SOFT OBJECTION TO THIS REASON. 
          LARGE AREA REZONING PLAN. 
          UH, OUR PROPERTY IS SET TO GO FROM I TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, DOWN TO, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          AND WE CAN PROBABLY CONTINUE TO OPERATE WITHIN THAT, THAT ZONING. 
          BUT WE'RE NEW TO THIS AREA. 
          WE, UH, JUST BOUGHT THESE TWO PARCELS, UH, RELATIVELY RECENTLY. 
          UM, WE HAVE A, A MAJOR CAPITAL PLAN, YOU KNOW, FOR CENTRAL TRANSPORT TO IMPROVE THE SITE IN, IN THE AREA. 
          AND SO I HEAR A LOT OF WRONGDOINGS OVER THE YEARS. 
          UH, AS AN LTL CARRIER CENTRAL TRANSPORT, UM, EMPLOYEES IN THE AREA. 
          MOST OF, UH, THE DRIVERS LIVE WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS OF THE TERMINAL. 
          UM, AND THE ONLY TRUCKS IN AN FOR AN LTL CARRIER ARE OUR TRUCKS. 
          THERE'S NO INDEPENDENT DRIVERS, THERE'S NO OVERNIGHT CABS. 
          THERE'S NO REFRIGERATED TRUCKS. 
          WE SERVICE THE LOCAL COMMITTEE, LOCAL COMMUNITY. 
          SO ANYBODY FROM A LOCAL WOODWORKING ARTISAN ALL THE WAY TO HOME DEPOT, WE'RE KIND OF THAT MIDDLE MILE FOR THEM IN OUR NETWORK. 
          WE CAN GET THEIR PRODUCTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, THIS ISSUE'S NOT UNIQUE TO SAN ANTONIO. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF REZONING OF INDUSTRIAL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, BUT THIS IS WHERE MY, MY SOFT OBJECTION COMES WHEN YOU MOVE THE STUFF AND THE, THE TRUCKING AND THE MIDDLE MILE TRUCKING OUT OF CERTAIN AREAS, YOU MOVE THEM FARTHER AWAY WHO GETS HURT, RIGHT? THE ONLY THING IS THAT THE COSTS GET ADDED TO IT. 
          SO IF WE, IF YOU MOVE THE MIDDLE MILE TRUCKERS AND, AND CARRIERS OUT 30 MILES TO FIND FARMLAND TO REDO IT, WELL THE COST IS ONLY GONNA GO TO THE CONSUMER. 
          UH, WE SUPPLY HOME DEPOT, BUT WE ALSO SUPPLY ARTISANS, UM, BIG AND SMALL, UM, HOME, YOU KNOW, HOME BUSINESSES. 
          SO AGAIN, IT'S A SOFT OBJECTION. 
          I REALLY, YOU SHOULD REALLY THINK STRONGLY ABOUT WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. OBL. 
          NEXT WE HAVE JAMES MCKNIGHT TO BE FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW GILBERT. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. MCKNIGHT AND MR. GILBERT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JAMES MCKNIGHT, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN. 
          I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF, UH, SOUTHERN WAREHOUSE DISTRI DISTRIBUTION. 
          THEY HAVE A DROP YARD AT 6 39 GAMBLER. 
          AND, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE ALSO KIND OF A SOFT OBJECTION THAT, THAT'S OFFERING C TWO CONDITIONAL FOR OVERSIZED, UH, VEHICLE SERVICE. 
          AND I'M SAYING WHAT WE HAVE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE, THERE'S NOT EXACTLY THE RIGHT ZONING THAT'S GONNA FIT FOR US. 
          SO I'M ASKING FOR A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL INSTEAD OF A C TWO WITH THE OVERSIZED MANUFACTURING. 
          SO WE'RE BEING OFFERED THE OVERSIZED MANUFACTURING AS IT IS NOT MANUFACTURING, EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, VEHICLE STORAGE, UH, AND SERVICE. 
          THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, IS TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE THOSE VEHICLES. 
          THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN OPERATING FOR OVER 13 YEARS AND WE WENT THROUGH A HEAVY, HEAVY SCRUTINY PROCESS WITH THE CITY TO GET IT ENTITLED AS IT IS. 
          AND, UH, I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS THAT SPOKE LIKE, UH, KEN BROWN. 
          HE SAID THIS WASN'T APPROPRIATE. 
          UH, WE AGREE THAT THIS IS UNFORTUNATE THAT IT'S LIKE THIS. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO, THE CITY'S ALREADY ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE CERTAIN USES. 
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WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT, BUT WE WANNA DO THAT WITH A USE THAT'S, OR THAT WILL FIT US. 
          SO MORE SPECIFICALLY, INSTEAD OF THE C TWO CONDITIONAL, WE'RE ASKING FOR A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITH THAT SAME USE, THE MANUFACTURED HOME OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES AND SERVICE. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THANK YOU MR. MCKNIGHT. 
          NEXT WE HAVE MATTHEW GILBERT TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. TAYLOR DANETTE TAYLOR. 
          ALL RIGHT, GIL, MR. GILBERT AND THEN MS. TAYLOR. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. 
          MATTHEW GILBERT WITH ORTIZ MCKNIGHT 1 1 2 EAST PECAN, UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE. 
          UH, SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, UH, BOTH THE DISTRICT TWO COUNCIL OFFICE AND THE COMMUNITY, UH, TO SEE IF THERE IS A ZONING DISTRICT THAT KIND OF SPLITS THE BABY, UH, RESPECTS THE, UH, NEIGHBORS WHILE STILL, UH, ALLOWING US TO, UM, PROCEED WITH OUR BUSINESS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU MR. GILBERT. 
          NEXT WE HAVE MS. DANETTE TAYLOR TO BE HOLLOWED BY ROSIE TAYLOR. 
          MY MOM NOT, DO YOU WANT HER TIME? I'LL TAKE IT. 
          ALRIGHT, MS. DENETTE TAYLOR, WE'LL TAKE MS. ROSIE TAYLOR'S TIME. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS DANETTE TAYLOR. 
          I LIVE AT WITH MY MOM ROSIE TAYLOR AT 36 55 WESTSIDE DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO OH NINE. 
          BORN AND RAISED THERE. 
          AND I AM IN, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING. 
          UM, I DO SEE THAT THE DIFFERENCE THAT IT HAS MADE AND WHEN IT COMES TO HER HEALTH, UM, IT HAS MADE A REALLY BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          IT CAN TELL, UM, JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE'S HAD TO JUST TAKE MORE MEDICINE THAN USUAL JUST BECAUSE OF THE BREATHING AND ALL THE DUST. 
          I MEAN, I CAN WASH THE CAR TODAY, TOMORROW, GO WASH ALL THE DUST OFF OF THE CAR. 
          SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY BAD. 
          AND IT WOULD REALLY BE NICE FOR US TO BE DOWNGRADED TO WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE TODAY. 
          AND I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU MS. TAYLOR. 
          ALRIGHT, NEXT, NEXT WE HAVE MS. GLORIA SIMMONS. 
          MS. SIMMONS TO BE FOLLOWED BY LANITA PERRY, MS. SIMMONS. 
          AND THEN MS. PERRY, MS. SIMMONS GOING ONCE, ARE YOU HERE MA'AM? GLORIA SIMMONS. 
          ALRIGHT, MS. PERRY. 
          OH, MS. PERRY. 
          OH, IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE, SHE, SHE WANTS TO BE OVER TIME. 
          MR. TO, TO MR. VIX AGAIN? YEAH. 
          TO MR. VIX. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MS. PERRY WILL YIELD HER TIME TO MR. VICKS. 
          THAT GIVES HIM SIX MINUTES AT THIS POINT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          NEXT WE HAVE, UH, MS. DORIS VIX YIELD TO MR. VICK TOO. 
          CAN'T DO IT. 
          HE'S ALREADY AT SIX. 
          HE'S MAXED OUT. 
          ALRIGHT, WHO'S NEXT? MS. ALI. 
          MS. ALI. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MS. VIX IS GIVING HER TIME TO MISS ALI. 
          YEP. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          NEXT WE HAVE MS. JACKIE STEWART. 
          MS. JAFFE STEWART. 
          YES. 
          I'M GIVING MY TIME TO MISS ALI. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO NOW WE HAVE MS. JACQUELYN, JACQUELYN ALI, AND SHE WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          IT FEELS LIKE. 
          MORNING. 
          UH, MY NAME IS JACQUELINE ALI AND I LIVE AT 34 27 BELGIUM LANE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, BUSINESSES AND MY NEIGHBORS. 
          I REPRESENT THE UNITED HOMEOWNERS IMPROVING ASSOCIATION THAT INCLUDES THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF WILLOW WOOD ESTATES, MEADOWVIEW NORTH AND MEADOWVIEW PARK NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE BUILT IN THE EARLY 1960S WHEN THIS LAND WAS CORN FIELDS, NOT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. 
          OUR HOMES, OUR HISTORIES CAME FIRST, BUT OVER TIME, INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES AND HEAVY TRAFFIC HAVE COME CLOSER. 
          AND THE EFFECTS ARE REAL BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WERE BUILT FIRST, WE'RE GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK. 
          THE HEALTH RISKS, THE TRAFFIC, THE NOISE, THE RISK TO OUR CHILDREN AND LOWER HOME VALUES. 
          DESPITE DECADES OF PRIDE AND CARE IN OUR PROPERTIES, STUDIES SHOW THAT HIGH VOLUMES OF TRUCK AND INDUSTRIAL TRAFFIC LEAD TO MORE DANGEROUS CONDITIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS, AND RESIDENTS. 
          I HAVE WATCHED TRUCKS DAILY SPEEDING ALONG BELGIUM LANE CONSTANTLY, EVEN THOUGH AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS HOUSED ON THAT VERY STREET. 
          I HAVE WITNESSED TANKER TRUCKS TRAVELING THROUGH THE STREETS THAT ARE SHARED BY BOTH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. 
          GOD KNOWS WHAT'S BEING CARRIED IN THOSE TRUCKS. 
          I HAVE SEEN WHERE THE BCOMM 
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CONSTRUCTION COMPANY HAVE PLACED GAS TANKS ALONG ITS BELGIUM LANE FENCE LINE ON THEIR PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MAMA D MY 92-YEAR-OLD NEIGHBOR EXPOSING ALL OF US TO THE DANGERS OF A GAS LEAK AND OR POSSIBLY AN EXPLOSION. 
          ON SEPTEMBER 10TH AT 11:42 AM I HAD TO SLAM ON MY BRAKES EN ROUTE TO A MEETING TO KEEP A BASSY TRUCK FROM RAMMING MY CAR AS HE WAS PULLING OUT FROM BASSEY PROPERTY ON BELGIUM LANE WITHOUT REGARD THAT I HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AS I TRAVELED ON A STREET THAT I LIVE ON AND HAVE TRAVELED AND USED EVERY DAY FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS, I HAVE TO ENDURE THE STENCH OF WASTE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. 
          NEIGHBORING HOUSES WHERE A PORTABLE TOILET COMPANY WAS ALLOWED TO EXIST BECAUSE OF IMPROPER ZONING AND WAS EVENTUALLY FOUND TO BE DISPOSING WASTE ON ITS PREMISES. 
          THESE ARE THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DEAL WITH EVERY DAY. 
          SO ON BEHALF OF OUR U-H-I-A-I ASKED THIS COMMISSION TO REZONE THE INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES ADJACENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO A DESIGNATION THAT BETTER SERVES OUR RESIDENTS, SUCH AS MIXED USE LIKE COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL ZONING. 
          THIS CHANGE WOULD REDUCE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC AND POLLUTION THAT THREATENS OUR HEALTH AND OUR SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN. 
          PROTECT AND RESTORE OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND OPEN OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING GREEN SPACES AND SMALL BUSINESSES THAT STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY LIFE. 
          WE DIDN'T CHOOSE TO BE NEXT DOOR TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. 
          WE GREW UP HERE, BUILT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RAISED FAMILIES HERE, AND IT'S TIME THAT ZONING REFLECTS OUR RIGHTS TO CLEAN AIR, SAFE STREETS, FAIR PROPERTY VALUES. 
          THIS IS FOR OUR FUTURE, MY GRANDCHILDREN, MY GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, AND DEFINITELY FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK, THANK YOU MS. ALI. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, THIS IS THE TIME WE TYPICALLY TAKE A BREAK. 
          HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE LEFT? WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT JUST 10. 
          10 10 SPEAKERS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYONE NEED A BREAK? COMMISSIONERS? YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GONNA TAKE ABOUT A SEVEN MINUTE BREAK. 
          THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL RECESS FOR APPROXIMATELY SEVEN 10 MINUTES AND WE WILL RECONVENE AT THAT TIME. 
          THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, WE WILL NOW RECONVENE THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, BEFORE WE GET TO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT, I DID WANNA NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER BOTTLES LEFT AT 1 52 OR SO. 
          I'LL, I'LL DEFER TO YOU IF YOU HAVE A BETTER TIME. 
          UH, ALRIGHT. 
          BUT AT THIS POINT WE WILL RESUME PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          NEXT WE HAVE MS. BEATRICE AND ANDERSON YIELDING MY TIME, ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WHO WANTS MS. ANDERSON'S TIME? WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE VERY END SO SOMEONE WANTS IT, SOMEONE CAN GET IT. 
          ALRIGHT, NEXT. 
          MS. MARY JOHNSON. 
          OH, MS. MARY JOHNSON. 
          OH, I'LL TAKE HER TIME. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YOU CAN HAVE MY TIME TOO. 
          MARY JOHNSON. 
          MARY JOHNSON, UHHUH. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU WANNA GIVE YOUR TIME? SIR, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? JOE MALONE. 
          JOE MALONE IS TAKING MARY JOHNSON'S TIMES AND, UH, I'M SORRY, BEATRICE ANDERSON. 
          MS. ANDERSON'S TIME AS WELL. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT WE HAVE MR. JOE MALONE. 
          JOE MALONE. 
          GOOD NEWS. 
          ALRIGHT SIR, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES IF YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AFTERNOON. 
          I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING IN AIR FORCE. 
          UH, THIS WHOLE THING IS ABOUT THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS AND HELP. 
          SIR, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. 
          COULD YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? JOE MALONE. 
          MY ADDRESS IS 37 0 3 WILLOW WOOD BOULEVARD, SAN ANTONIO. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          7 8 2 1 9. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          AND AS I WAS SAYING, THIS WHOLE THING IS ABOUT OUR HEALTH AND AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. 
          WE, UH, THE CONVERSATION BEEN BROUGHT UP OF PEOPLE RIGHTS. 
          WHERE DOES MY RIGHT START? AND THE OTHER PERSON STOP AND, AND, AND I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS WHEN WE, UH, SAYING, WELL WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING HERE? PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM 
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ALL OF THIS DUST AND HEALTH. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEALTH RATE OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR THREE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU WOULD PROBABLY FIND MORE CANCER DEATHS THERE THAN IN MOST NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND YOU GOTTA SAY SOMETHING IS CAUSING IT. 
          AND, UH, I CAN TAKE MY CAR TO THE CARWASH ON MONDAY AND ON TUESDAY IT NEED WASHING AGAIN. 
          AND THIS IS SIMPLY FROM THE DUST BY THOSE TRUCKS. 
          SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS NOT THAT YOU DO ANYTHING EXCEPT CHANGE THE WAY WE ARE DOING THINGS AND THAT YOU CAN, UH, LIMIT PRODUCTION ON SOME OF THESE THINGS AND THAT WE COULD, UH, HAVE A CHANCE TO TO SURVIVE. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          WE'LL AFTER. 
          WE ARE NOT TRYING TO GO AGAINST ANY BUSINESS. 
          WE ARE NOT TRYING TO TELL ANYONE TO LEAVE. 
          WE JUST WANT TO LIVE AND BREATHE. 
          AND, AND I THINK THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GONNA DO THAT IS THE REZONING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. MALONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND NEXT WE HAVE MR. OSCAR VS. 
          OR VIX, I'M SORRY. 
          OSCAR VICK. 
          MR. OSCAR VICKS. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          GOT SIX MINUTES. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS OSCAR VICKS. 
          I LIVE AT 1214 NEY DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, USA. 
          AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS AND I'VE SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT FOR AT LEAST SIX TERMS. I KNOW UNTIL I JUST FINALLY REALIZED THAT IF I DIE, SOMEBODY GOING TO TAKE MY PLACE. 
          SO I SAID I MIGHT AS WELL MAKE THAT HAPPEN NOW. 
          SO WE JUST WANT TO THANK GOD FOR MISS ALI AND MR. JONES WHO'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. 
          BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS TO GO TO, UM, SOME COLLEGE AND TAKE US A HUMAN RESOURCE COURSE BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING. 
          I, THE FIRST TIME I CAME DOWN HERE WAS PROBABLY LIKE 1972 AND WE HAVE FOUGHT EVERYTHING FROM DRUG PLACES. 
          THE GUY ASKED ME ABOUT A NUDITY BUILDING. 
          I SAID, MAN, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT NUDITY BUILDING IS? IF YOU WALK ACROSS THE TRACK, THAT'S BELLA CAMERON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND YOU GOING TO ASK ME TO SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT? AND WE WOULD ALL JUST TAKE A HUMAN, A HUMAN COURSE ABOUT RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER. 
          ALL THESE BUSINESSES HERE TALKING ABOUT THEY'VE BEEN HERE 50, 60 YEARS. 
          IF I WOULD BEEN THE PRESIDENT SIX TURNS, I SHOULD AT LEAST KNOW 'EM. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T KNOW NONE OF 'EM. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? NOW EVERYBODY IN SAN ANTONIO KNOW THAT UHIA BEEN COMING TO CITY HALL. 
          THE COMMISSIONER, IF I MOVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'D BE THE UHIA BE THE FIRST SOMEBODY I CONTACT. 
          DO ANYBODY IN HERE KNOW WHY WE WENT TO VIETNAM? I AIN'T FOUND NOBODY THAT SAY WHY WE WENT TO VIETNAM. 
          AND YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED OVER THERE? THEY SAY WE WENT TO VIETNAM TO FIGHT FOR THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE TO HAVE A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF A, UH, COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT. 
          BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I KNOW IS ABOUT OIL AND MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT. 
          WELL, I GOT SHOT IN VIETNAM THE NIGHT BEFORE HALLOWEEN, 1970 WHEN I CAME BACK TO MY HOMETOWN IN FOREST CITY, ARKANSAS, IN MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE. 
          THEY HAD A COLORED RESTROOM, A COLORED WATER FOUNTAIN, A COLORED RESTAURANT. 
          NOW, EXCUSE MY FRENCH, BUT YOU MAY HONOR, TOOK MY BEHIND HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD TO FIGHT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE RIGHTS. 
          AND I COME HOME AND I AIN'T GOT NO RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME, THESE BUSINESSES ARE TELLING US, UM, Y'ALL JUST LET US DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          NOW SUPPOSE SOMEBODY TOLD ME, WELL VS. 
          EVERYBODY ELSE GOING TO A COLOR RESTROOM, WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO TO A COLOR RESTROOM? SO NOW I'VE BEEN FIGHTING EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN IN SAN ANTONIO OVER 50 YEARS. 
          I CALLED IT FIESTA FLAM BOAT NIGHT PARADE. 
          NOW Y'ALL REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED IN 2021. 
          THAT WAS THE PANDEMIC RIGHT OF ALL DAYS. 
          THE FIERCE FLAM BO SCHEDULE THE FIERCE FLAM BO ON JUNE 19TH. 
          NOW, DO YOU THINK I'VE BEEN DOING THE JUNETEENTH PARADE FOR 25 YEARS, FIGHTING FOR EVERYBODY'S EQUALITY, JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          NOW DO YOU THINK IF WE HAD A PANDEMIC, I WOULD SCHEDULE THE JUNETEENTH PARADE ON FIESTA FLAM? YOU THINK I'D DO THAT? SO WE WOULD ALL JUST TAKE A HUMAN COURSE AND WHAT WE DOING AND HOW, AND HOW WE TREATING ONE ANOTHER. 
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I CALLED THE FIESTA FLAMBOYA. 
          I SAID, NOW LEMME TELL Y'ALL ONE DAY I'M MAD OR P****D OFF AND I'M UPSET, BUT I'M NOT THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT STAY LIKE THAT. 
          AND NOW LEMME TELL Y'ALL HOW WE GOING TO FIX THIS. 
          Y'ALL GONNA PUT SOMETHING IN THE JUNETEENTH PARADE AND WE GOING PUT SOMETHING IN THE FIESTA PARADE. 
          THEY SAID, OH WOW. 
          I'M MUST FIX IT. 
          THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          EVER SINCE THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE JUNETEENTH PARADE AND WE'VE BEEN PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE FIELD THAT'S A HUMAN COURSE. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S YOU AIN'T YOU, YOU CONCERNED ABOUT HOW I FEEL AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL. 
          WE COULD HAVE JUST LEFT BEING MAD AT ONE ANOTHER. 
          SO I'M TELLING Y'ALL, WE ARE NOT STAYING IN ONE PLACE FOR 50 YEARS AND DON'T WANT TO BE THERE. 
          WE DECIDE WHAT GOING TO BE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IF THESE BUSINESSES HAD ANY KIND OF DECENCY ABOUT THEY SELF, THEY WOULD COME TO UHIA, THEY WOULD LOOK AT OUR TRACK RECORD AND SEE WE DON'T STOP. 
          WE FIGHT FOR OUR FAMILIES, FOR OUR KIDS. 
          AND THEY WOULD COME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY, LOOK, WE THINKING ABOUT BRINGING THIS BUSINESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. 
          BUT JUST TO DO IT AND THINK WE WE AIN'T GONNA DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. 
          IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. 
          IF WE'VE BEEN THERE OVER 50 YEARS, YOU REALIZE HOW MANY TAXES WE HAVE PAID. 
          WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOME KINDA RIGHT. 
          SOMEBODY OUGHT TO SAY, WELL YOU, YOU CAN HAVE THIS. 
          YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO JUST FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING. 
          A LADY TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY, I COULDN'T PARK IN A HANDICAP PARKING'S FACE 'CAUSE I HAD A PURPLE HEART PLATE, BUT I AIN'T HAD A HANDICAP. 
          I SAID, MA'AM, I DONE LOST MY HEALTH IN THE POST OFFICE DELIVERING MAIL. 
          I BEEN SHOT UP IN VIETNAM. 
          Y'ALL OUGHT TO BE LOOKING FOR ME A PARKING SPACE INSTEAD OF TELLING ME WHERE I CAME FROM. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT HUMAN RELATION IS IN A HUMAN COURSE. 
          HERE, Y'ALL SITTING HERE, Y'ALL LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IF YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU SHOULDN'T WANT IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I MEAN, IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. 
          THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE HERE FOR, TO REPRESENT US. 
          AND IF YOU KNOW YOU DON'T WANT A PARTY PORT, PARTY PORTABLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BROUGHT, THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE BROUGHT UP IN HERE. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO. 
          WE DONE HAD TO GO GET BUSES AND SHOW TO COME DOWN HERE AND FIGHT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE GOT REPRESENTATIVES SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT. 
          SO Y'ALL CAN SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT, WELL, Y'ALL CAN LEAVE IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE. 
          THAT'S, WE BEEN THERE FOR 50 YEARS. 
          WHY SHOULD WE WANT TO LEAVE? SO WHY WE CAN'T WORK WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          WHY WE CAN'T SAY, WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN COME TO THIS POINT AND YOU CAN COME TO THAT POINT AND LET'S WORK OUT SOMETHING AND LIVE WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. 
          HOW MUCH MORE TIME I GOT? YOU'RE THERE SIR. 
          , BUT YOU WERE ON THE DOT, SO I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. 
          THANK YOU MR. V. 
          NEXT, NEXT, NEXT WE HAVE MS. VELMA GREEN. 
          UH, MS. GREEN. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SHE IS TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. JACK FINGER. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS VELMA GREEN AND I OWN PROPERTY AT 34 19 CHATEAU DRIVE. 
          MY HOMESTEAD. 
          I LIVE IN CHINA GROVE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, MY STORY IS BASICALLY TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE FEEL OF THE AREA MY PARENTS BOUGHT IN 19 62, 1 OF THE HOMES IN WILLOW WOODS, WHICH WAS IN THE PARADE OF HOMES. 
          I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD OF THAT IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          WELL, OUR HOMES, AS THEY WERE BEING BUILT, SOME OF THE FIRST ONES WERE IN THE PARADE OF HOMES. 
          THEY HAD A MAGAZINE AND EVERYTHING WITH ALL THE, THE BUILDERS NAMES AND THE HOME STYLES. 
          AND WE WERE PROUD TO HAVE MOVED OVER THERE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE WHAT WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN A SUBURBAN HOME AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WE HAD THE CABBAGE FIELDS ACROSS THE STREET AND PLENTY OF GREENERY, PECAN TREES, AND GOOD LIVING AS THE SIGN SAID, LIVING IS GOOD IN WILLOW WOOD. 
          SO WE WERE PROUD, STILL PROUD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR HOMESTEADS THERE, RAISE OUR FAMILIES, BE ABLE TO PASS THEM ON TO THE NEXT GENERATION. 
          WE WE CONSIDER THAT, UH, OUR LEGACY AND WE WANNA BE ABLE TO PASS A GOOD STRONG FIRM, UH, HISTORY AND PROPERTY ONTO OUR LEGACY. 
          UM, I REMEMBER GROWING UP BEING ABLE TO WALK DOWN IN PLE PARK AND ACTUALLY PICK BLACKBERRIES FROM THE SIDE OF THE SATO CREEK. 
          THAT SHOWS YOU HOW GOOD IT WAS BACK THEN. 
          TODAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I WOULDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO PICK ANYTHING FROM THERE BECAUSE OF THE POLLUTION THAT HAS SETTLED IN THERE. 
          I MEAN, OH, IT TAKES TIME FOR THAT STUFF TO GET RIGHT AND WE WANNA START NOW BY HAVING IT GET RIGHT. 
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AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR AS WE ALL ARE FOR THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE TO COME ABOUT. 
          WE ARE IN FAVOR OF IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. GREEN. 
          MR. FINGER, WHO'S AFTER MR. FINGER? THAT WOULD BE IT FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. 
          MY NAME IS JACK FINGER. 
          I LIVE AT 1 1 3 2 WEST FRENCH PLACE. 
          I NORMALLY AM IN FAVOR OF DOWN ZONING. 
          YES. 
          I, I BELIEVE IT. 
          YOU DO WANT MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO RESIDENTIAL AREAS VERSUS THE, UH, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. 
          I REALLY DO. 
          I'VE SUPPORTED THAT FOR MANY YEARS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. 
          I'M A, I FEAR THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS I MISS LOS, THAT THIS IS YOUR AREA, YOUR DISTRICT THERE. 
          AND I MEAN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WHY WOULDN'T, UH, HOMEOWNERS TO TAX TAXATION WR TAX RATES GO UP HIGHER BECAUSE OF THIS PROSPECT HERE? WHY WOULD THERE NOT BE INCREASED DELAY TIMES FOR FIRST RESPONDERS? NO. 
          AS MUCH AS, I HATE TO ADMIT IT, AS MUCH AS WE ALL HATE TO ADMIT IT, THERE IS A PLACE FOR INDUSTRY HERE IN TOWN. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S A PLACE FOR HEAVY INDUSTRY IN OUR TOWN. 
          IS THERE GOING TO BE A MARKET FOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN THAT, THAT TOP RED, UH, TRIANGLE UP THERE? THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE, I'VE BEEN HEARING BECAUSE SOME OF US HAVE, UH, JUST LEARNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. 
          NO, UM, WE, YES, THERE IS WHERE THE PLACES WHO ARE HERE IN THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREAS, IF THEY GET OUT ZONED FROM WHERE THEY ARE, WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO? THEY FURNISH JOBS FOR, FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS GENERAL AREA OF TOWN. 
          WHERE WOULD THEY GO? WAREHOUSE, PLEASE. 
          SO, ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MR. FINGER. 
          THAT IS YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OVER, WELL ACTUALLY IT'S NOT OVER. 
          SORRY. 
          APOLOGIZE. 
          I MISSPOKE. 
          WE ARE STILL IN PUBLIC HEARING, UH, BUT WE ARE NOW GONNA GO INTO A PORTION FOR COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. 
          UH, FOR THE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN THE AUDIENCE, WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UH, WE WILL HAVE TWO ROUNDS. 
          UH, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE FIRST ROUND FOR 10 MINUTES PER COMMISSIONER, AND THEN ONCE EVERY COMMISSIONER WHO WANTS TO ASK QUESTIONS HAS ASKED THEIR QUESTIONS IN THAT FIRST ROUND, WE WILL GO BACK AROUND FOR FIVE MORE MINUTES. 
          UH, THE COMMISSIONERS MAY ASK QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF IN THIS CASE AS WELL AS ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT IS PRESENT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER LOAF TO YOU FOR 10 MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS SO MUCH. 
          UM, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF IF WHOEVER WANTS TO COME UP. 
          UM, FIRST I WAS WONDERING IF, UM, YOU ALL COULD SPEAK TO THE, THE OUTREACH YOU DID TO THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, AND JUST WALK US THROUGH WHAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION OR OUTREACH WAS DONE WITH THOSE FOLKS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          UM, SO FOREST WILSON, UH, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH THE ZONING DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, SO WE, UM, ONCE WE WERE GIVEN, UH, THE CCR AND THE RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE PROJECT, UM, WE, WE DID A NUMBER OF THINGS. 
          SO WE ENGAGED, UM, BOTH BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, UM, IN, IN VARIOUS WAYS. 
          SO, UH, FIRST WE STARTED REACHING OUT WITH THE BUSINESSES, UM, VIA PHONE CALLS, INDIVIDUAL PHONE CALLS. 
          UM, WE NOTIFIED THEM WITH A, WITH A NOTICE FOR TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WE HELD. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO REACHED OUT FOR THE ONES THAT WE DID, UM, GET RETURN PHONE CALLS TO. 
          WE REACHED OUT TO THEM. 
          WE, WE MET INDIVIDUALLY WITH SEVERAL OF THE BUSINESS AND PROPERTY OWNERS THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN AGAIN THROUGH THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS WE WERE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I'M CURIOUS, THIS MIGHT BE YOU AS WELL, BUT ANOTHER STAFF QUESTION. 
          A LOT OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS MENTIONED, UM, ZONING CHANGES, POTENTIALLY CHANGING OR IMPACTING FUTURE USE. 
          UM, I THINK STAFF MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THAT THE PROPOSED ALL THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE INTENDED TO 
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MAINTAIN THE CURRENT USE, AND I THINK SOME NEIGHBORS HAD ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE WASN'T AN INTENTION TO PUSH ANYONE OUT, JUST WANTING TO ADJUST ZONING TO MATCH CURRENT USE. 
          WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TALK THROUGH SPECIFICALLY SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT MENTIONED NEEDING TO CHANGE THEIR OPERATIONS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE REZONING PROPOSAL, JUST LIKE WALKING THROUGH, WHICH, HOW I GUESS ANYONE, ANY BUSINESSES THAT WOULD HAVE A CHANGE DUE TO THE PROPOSED REZONING? UM, NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE POTENTIAL USES, BUT THE CURRENT USES SPECIFICALLY. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, SO IF YOU'LL, IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE MAP, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, THERE WERE SEVERAL CONDITIONAL USES AND THE REASON THAT WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'LL GIVES US THE ABILITY TO, UM, GET, BASICALLY LET THESE BUSINESSES CONTINUE TO OPERATE. 
          SO IT GIVES THEM THE ZONING THAT MATCHES THEIR CURRENT USE BASED ON WHAT WE COULD SEE, UM, ON THE GROUND. 
          WE DID SITE VISITS. 
          WE, UH, SPOKE TO MANY OF THE BUSINESSES, UM, MANY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA. 
          WE, UM, WE DID GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT HOW PROPERTIES WERE BEING USED. 
          WE, UM, AGAIN, REALLY, I MEAN, I GUESS ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THE ZONINGS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING ALIGN WITH THE USES THAT ARE THERE ON THE GROUND TODAY, AS BEST AS WE COULD TELL. 
          AND THEN HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE K OA CAMPGROUND. 
          I KNOW THEY WERE, UM, PROPOSED ZONING C TWO, BUT REQUESTED A DIFFERENT ONE WITH A RESIDENTIAL OR MOBILE HOME PARK WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE. 
          CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE C TWO PROPOSAL? ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO THE, THE K OA CAMPGROUND, UH, THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT, IS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE AN RV PARK, SO THE CONDITIONAL USE IS FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK THAT WE'D RECOMMENDED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALSO HEARD THEIR, THEIR COMMENT ABOUT THEY'D LIKE TO BE, UM, CONSIDERED MORE OF A MANUFACTURED HOME, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE SAW THEY WERE BEING USED TODAY. 
          UM, AND IF WE WERE TO, UH, THE WAY THAT THE USES, UM, WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED UNDER THAT, UH, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ADD A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR AN RV PARK TO A MANUFACTURED HOUSING PARK. 
          SO THE RV PARK SEEMED LIKE THE MOST APPROPRIATE BASED ON HOW THEY'RE USING IT TODAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL FOR STAFF. 
          I DID WANNA, UM, ASK IF THEY'RE STILL HERE. 
          THE PROPERTY OWNER ON GMB BLUE HAD A SOFT OBJECTION. 
          IS HE STILL HERE? ? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT, WHAT YOUR REQUEST WAS. 
          YES. 
          SO OUR REQUEST RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S RECOMMENDED FOR C TWO CONDITIONAL FOR MANUFACTURED HOME OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES, SERVICE OR STORAGE. 
          AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE ARE ASKING FOR IS L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITH THAT SAME USE. 
          AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE VEHICLES, OVERSIZED VEHICLES IS GENERALLY NOT THE SIZE OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. 
          FOR THESE, THERE'S TRUCKS AND TRUCKS FALL INTO A DIFFERENT CATEGORY AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT. 
          WHAT ADDRESS MR. MCKNIGHT? 6 3 9 GIMLER? I HAVE A PROPERTY ID IF THAT'S, YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          OKAY, I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR QUESTIONS FOR ME. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE WILL NOW MOVE DOWN, UH, TO MY LEFT. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY, YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR YOUR FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE IT. 
          I, I THINK I'LL DEFER. 
          ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          I'LL PASS YOU DON'T GET IT BACK, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE IT. 
           COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, YOU WILL NOW HAVE 10 MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, MR. WILSON, YOU COME UP CAN MAKE THESE QUESTIONS SORT OF SHORT AND QUICK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OH, SORRY, CAN YOU TURN THE MIC ON? THANK YOU. 
          THE, UH, 61 PROPERTY OWNERS INVO, WERE THEY INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS REZONING PRIOR TO AUGUST JULY OF THIS YEAR? DID THEY GET INVOLVED OVER IN 2024? UH, EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS, ALL, ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED ABOUT THE REZONING. 
          BEEN THEY WERE NOTIFIED PRIOR TO THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WE HELD IN AUGUST SPECIFICALLY. 
          WHICH DATE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WELL, I'M ASKING PRIOR TO JUST MAYBE TWO WEEKS BEFORE RIGHT? SOMETIME IN JULY WE, WE SENT THE NOTICES, UM, YEAH, IN JULY PRIOR TO THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN AUGUST. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEY HAD NO AWARENESS OF ALL THIS GOING ON DURING 2024 AND EARLY 2025 WHEN THE STAFF WAS WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALL TO PLAN THIS. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY KNEW AT THAT TIME, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE NOTIFIED THEM WELL IN ADVANCE OF, OF ANY FINAL DECISIONS. 
          SO THAT'S JULY OF THIS YEAR? YES SIR. 
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DO THE 61 PROPERTIES OR SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THERE ARE EXACTLY, HAVE ANY KIND OF DOCUMENTED CODE VIOLATIONS THAT JUSTIFIED DOWN ZONING THEM? THERE WERE SOME CODE VIOLATIONS ON SOME PROPERTIES FOR, UH, VARIOUS THINGS. 
          UM, I THAT WAS NOT SOLELY THE JUSTIFICATION FOR DOWN ZONING IF THEY HAD A VIOLATION OR NOT. 
          SO CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE COUPLE POINTERS AS TO THE JUSTIFICATION FOR DOWN ZONING ALL OF THE PROPERTIES? IT, IT WAS SIMPLY BASED ON HOW THEY'RE USING THE PROPERTY TODAY. 
          UH, YES, I READ YOUR CCR AND THAT'S ACTUALLY CONFLICTED 'CAUSE IT SAYS BASED ON NEED TO MATCH THE ZONING TO EXISTING USES TO THE LAND USES. 
          AND IT'S KIND OF THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL EXISTING USES, THEY ALL ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING AND THEY WILL BECOME NOT IN COMPLIANCE IF THIS ZONING OCCURS. 
          SO, UM, I'M I'M GONNA CHIME IN ON THAT ONE. 
          UH, COUPLE THINGS. 
          SO THE LANGUAGE IN THE CCRI WILL START BY SAYING IT'S NOT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CCR, IT COMES FROM CITY COUNCIL AND THE INSTRUCTIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL ARE TO INITIATE A LARGE AREA REZONING THAT WILL ALLOW FOR FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO OCCUR WHILE PROTECTING EXISTING HOMES AND PROPERTY OWNERS FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES. 
          SO THAT IS THE DIRECTIVE. 
          I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THERE ARE NO PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING MADE NON-CONFORMING AS A RESULT OF THIS LARGE AREA REZONING. 
          THEY'RE BEING PROVIDED CONDITIONAL USE ZONING CONSISTENT WITH THEIR ESTABLISHED USE THAT ALLOWS ONGOING OPERATION, IT ALLOWS EXPANSION. 
          NONE OF THESE EXISTING BUSINESSES WOULD BE SUBJECT TO NON-CONFORMING USE REGISTRATION OR THE LIMITATIONS THEREOF. 
          UH, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THEY CAN EXPAND UNDER THE C TWO, UH, CONDITIONAL USE ZONING? YES. 
          SO IF THEY'RE A WAREHOUSE AND THEY WANT TO ADD ON THREE OR 4,000 FEET, THEY CAN DO THAT WITHOUT ANY KIND OF REZONING? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND IF THE USE CHANGES WITH THEIR TENANT CHANGES, THEY CAN CONTINUE. 
          IF THEY CHANGE THE USE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TO THE SAME USE OR ANOTHER CONFORMING USE IN THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH THEY'RE LOCATED. 
          I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, SOME OF THE USES ARE SORT OF OPEN ENDED OFFICE WAREHOUSE. 
          I MEAN, DOES THAT GIVE THEM MASSIVE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF THE TENANTS OFFICE WAREHOUSE IS A VERY FLEXIBLE USE. 
          YES. 
          UM, QUESTION, DID THE STAFF WHO FILED THE REZONING APPLICATION ALSO KIND OF EVALUATE WHETHER TO APPROVE IT OR NOT? DID Y'ALL DO YOUR OWN? WE, WE DID DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF DIDN'T FILE THE REZONING. 
          WE, WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICTS, BUT THE CCR WAS FILED BY THE DISTRICT TWO OFFICE AND STAFF DOES NOT APPROVE ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WILL THE PROPERTIES THAT GET THE CONDITIONAL USED DESIGNATIONS BE SUBJECT TO ALL CURRENT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT CODE? THERE ARE NO, THE, THE CONDITIONAL, LET ME CLARIFY WHAT THE CONDITIONAL USE ZONING DOES. 
          SO IT DOES NOT LIMIT A PROPERTY TO SOLELY THAT CONDITIONAL USE. 
          IT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT USE AND ANYTHING THAT IS STILL ALLOWED UNDER THAT BASE ZONING DISTRICT, ALL PROPERTIES OR ALL BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ARE REQUIRED TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. 
          UM, SO AS FAR AS PERMITTING GOES, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ONES THAT IS, WILL STILL BE A REQUIREMENT AND IS TODAY AS WELL. 
          LET ME JUMP IN JUST 'CAUSE I KNOW THIS COMMISSION MAKE A COMMENT. 
          SO YOU JUMP IN WHEN YOU SAY BASE ZONING, SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE LOSING THEIR CURRENT BASE ZONING, WHICH ALLOWS THEM LOTS OF FLEXIBILITY. 
          THEY'RE NOW GONNA BE RESTRICTED TO THE NEW BASE ZONING, WHICH IS MUCH MORE LIMITING TO THEM. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION HERE IS THAT THEY'RE ONLY GONNA GET THE FLEXIBILITY ON THE NEW BASE ZONING. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE THE HE IT ESSENTIALLY, YES. 
          I MEAN THEY, THEY ARE ALLOWING, THIS WILL PREVENT FUTURE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY THERE TODAY FROM COMING INTO THE AREA. 
          BUT IT WILL NOT PREVENT ANY OF THESE CURRENT BUSINESSES FROM OPERATING THEIR BUSINESSES. 
          AND, AND I'M GONNA EXPAND ON THAT. 
          SO BECAUSE I KNOW THIS COMMISSION, WHEN YOU TYPICALLY ENTERTAIN CONDITIONAL USE, YOU'RE TYPICALLY LOOKING AT CONDITIONS AND SITE PLANS. 
          NONE OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE RESTRAINED TO A SITE PLAN. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ALLOWED TO EXPAND. 
          AND WHILE FOREST IS CORRECT, THIS WOULD PREVENT FUTURE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES FROM COMING IN. 
          THERE ARE ABOUT 178 PERMITTED USES, WHETHER IT'S, UH, PERMITTED BY RIGHT OR THROUGH A SPECIFIC USE REZONING IN THE I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL 
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DISTRICT. 
          THE C TWO BASE ZONING DISTRICT FOR WHICH MANY OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE BEING PROPOSED ALLOWS 199. 
          SO IT PROVIDES GREATER FLEXIBILITY OF A DIFFERENT RANGE OF USES. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          BUT THERE'S ONLY PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT OR 10 COMMON USES BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. 
          SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. 
          AS YOU'RE SAYING, THERE'S MORE USES, BUT THE USES DON'T RELATE TO WHAT THEY BOUGHT THEIR PROPERTY FOR AND WHAT IS CURRENTLY ONGOING. 
          SO IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE IF EVERYBODY'S EACH PROPERTY IS GETTING THEIR OWN SPECIFIC USE OR CONDITIONAL USE THAT'S KIND OF GIVING 61 CUSTOM ZONING DISTRICTS, I, I WOULDN'T REFER TO THEM AS CUSTOM. 
          UM, THEY FOLLOW OUR CONDITIONAL ZONING REGULATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          WHEN Y'ALL DID, UM, YOUR PLANNING FOR ALL THIS, UM, YOU'VE SAID YOU'VE ENGAGED THE PEOPLE, BUT DID YOU ENGAGE, HAVE YOU ENGAGED EACH ONE OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR EXISTING USES ARE AND CAN THEY LIVE WITH THIS NEW SITUATION? HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM ABOUT WOULD THEY PREFER AND CAN THEY HAVE WORK WITH L OR I ONE OR SOME MIXED USE THAT SEEMS LIKE THIS HAS BEEN A BLANKET, UH, ZONING THAT'S JUST DROPPED ON EVERYBODY RATHER THAN GOING AROUND AND TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM? I'M HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT THEY'RE NOT, UH, THEY WANT TO BE NEIGHBORLY. 
          UH, AND I THINK THE INDUSTRIAL USERS ALSO MAY ALSO TOO. 
          SO THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE WHERE UH, MAYBE SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY OWNERS NEED TO BE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD TO PARTICIPATE AND ACTUALLY SIT BACK AND TAKE SOME TIME AND REALLY PAUSE THIS PROCESS AND WORK THROUGH, UH, SOME REASONABLE CONCESSIONS WITH EVERYONE TO WHERE THEY BOTH SIDES BENEFIT AND WIN VERSUS JUST YOU'RE OUT OF HERE, UH, TYPE OF SITUATION. 
          IT JUST FEELS TO ME THAT IN SOME OF QUESTIONING AND ANSWERS THAT I'VE ASKED FOR FROM THE CITY THAT UH, I'VE NOT GOTTEN A LOT OF CLARIFICATION ON THINGS, NOT A LOT OF INFORMATION. 
          I'VE HAD TO KIND OF DO MY OWN RESEARCH TO UNDERSTAND THIS AND I'VE ASKED FOR SOME OPEN RECORDS ON A LOT OF THINGS AND THAT'S BEEN ESSENTIALLY IGNORED. 
          SO YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER WAS, THIS TIME IS FOR QUESTIONS. 
          SO YOU CAN ASK, DO YOU AGREE? MY QUESTION RATING? YEAH. 
          RELATIVE TO THAT IS WHEN AM I GONNA GET THOSE REQUESTS THAT I MADE OPEN RECORD REQUESTS FOR UNDER THE NEW STATE LAW THAT SAID YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE IT PROMPTLY. 
          THAT WOULD THEN HELP ME TO MAKE A MORE FAIR-MINDED AND REASONABLE, UH, DECISION IN THIS. 
          BUT I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I CAN'T DO THAT UNDER WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED IN THIS SHORT RUSHED TIMEFRAME IN THIS CASE. 
          YOUR, YOUR OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS ARE BEING PROCESSED IN ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE LAWS. 
          WHAT'S IT SAYS PROMPTLY AND MY REQUESTS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR 12 OR 14 DAYS AND I'VE GOTTEN NOTHING AT THIS POINT. 
          SO IT MAKES IT, HOW CAN I MAKE A DECISION, UH, ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT LOOKING AT THAT INFORMATION? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          COMMISSIONER WITT, THAT IS THE FIRST ROUND OF TIME FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          YOU WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FIVE MINUTES SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO USE IT. 
          UH, MR. MIDIS, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THESE ARE RECORDED AND AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE, SO I DO, WE GOT IT THERE. 
          WE'RE RIGHT . 
          SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER KELLUM, YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES, NO QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SIPES, 10 MINUTES. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, UH, FIRST QUESTION IS FOR STAFF. 
          AND THAT'S, UH, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE ZONING AS IT EXISTED WAY BACK IN THE DAY BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT IN SAY 19 60, 19 63. 
          UM, UM, AND THAT WAS, I THINK IT WAS KEN WHO BROUGHT UP THAT, THAT IT, THE, THE AREA, THE WHOLE AREA WAS ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND THEN AN AREA WAS THEN REZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND, UM, WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED OR IS IT KIND OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OLDER AREAS IN THE CITY, UM, THAT MANY OF US LIVE IN WHERE IT WAS LIKE, OH, LET'S ZONE THIS, BUT YOU CAN DO ANYTHING UNDER THERE. 
          IT'S LIKE, YEAH. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WOULD HAVE, 
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YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO A BUSINESS, NEXT TO, YOU KNOW, A BAR NEXT TO THIS IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ZONE THAT YOU CAN DO ANYTHING UNDERNEATH THAT. 
          IS THAT THE REASON WHY SOME OF THIS HAD HAPPENED? SO GETTING BACK TO WHY, WHO CAME FIRST, ESSENTIALLY, IS THAT KIND OF TO THE QUESTION? OKAY. 
          SO IT'S NOT A SIMPLE, THE NEIGHBOR, THE HOUSES CAME FIRST, THEN THE BUSINESSES, UM, THERE, WHEN THAT PROPERTY, WHEN THE AREA WAS ANNEXED, THAT AREA WAS ZONED, UM, FOR A RESIDENCE DISTRICT AS WAS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. 
          UM, AND WHILE SOME OF THE BUSINESSES MAY HAVE HAD THAT LL ZONE, THIS, THAT WHOLE AREA WAS, WAS ZONED THE WHOLE AREA SOUTH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ZONED FOR LL UM, AFTER THE, A RESIDENCE DISTRICT WAS IN PLACE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHEN WAS THIS? I FORGET, I THINK, WHEN WAS IT? WE GET THIS ANNEX PROBABLY IN THE, LOOKS LIKE IT WAS ANNEXED IN 1952 AND ZONED A RESIDENCE DISTRICT. 
          UM, THE AREA THAT FOREST JUST MENTIONED, KIND OF SOUTH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, WERE REZONED IN 1957 TO LL THAT WAS CALLED THE FIRST MANUFACTURING DISTRICT. 
          UH, UPON ADOPTION OF THE 2001 UDC THAT LL CONVERTED TO WHAT TODAY WE WOULD CALL I TWO. 
          GOT IT. 
          BUT AGAIN, TO TO FOREST'S POINT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SO SIMPLE AS ALL THE HOUSES WERE THERE THEN ALL THE BUSINESSES OH, I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW . 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, MAN, I, I HAVE LOT, I HAVE COMMENTS, BUT I'M, I'M, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO, UM, I KNOW IT'S JUST QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, SO I WILL, I WILL, I'LL DEFER . 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER S SIPES. 
          'CAUSE I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU A TONGUE LASHING IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, WE ARE NOW GONNA GO TO MY RIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES? YES. 
          UH, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE. 
          UH, NUMBER ONE, JUST TO KIND OF GET SOME CLARIFICATION, UH, FOR US. 
          SO THIS STARTED WITH A CCR WITH THE COUNCILMAN, UH, COUNCIL PERSON IN DISTRICT TWO, WHICH I'M ASSUMING I'M, UH, HE'S HAD RESIDENTS COME TO HIM. 
          I, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT IT, IT GOT STARTED THERE. 
          UM, MY QUESTION IS, 'CAUSE I KIND OF HEARD DIFFERENT STUFF FROM SOME OF THE, THE, UH, VOICEMAILS AND SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          IF THIS PASSES AND THERE IS A, UH, A CHANGE, THE CURRENT BUSINESSES, AND I KNOW YOU, YOU'VE ALLUDED TO THIS, BUT SIMPLIFY FOR ME, EVEN, EVEN EVEN SIMPLER, THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE CURRENTLY, WHAT HAPPENS? SO WHAT HAPPENS DAY NUMBER TWO? THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OPERATION AS THEY ARE TODAY. 
          SO THE PORTA POTTY IS GONNA STAY THERE. 
          THE DUST IS GONNA STAY THERE. 
          THE, THE PORTA POTTY BUSINESS IS NO LONGER THERE. 
          THAT, THAT WAS AN OLDER SITUATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, BUT EVERYTHING STAYS THE SAME. 
          I MEAN, IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IT, IT'S FOR IF THEY, I'M ASSUMING IF THEY SELL THE PROPERTY, THEN THAT'S WHAT KIND OF CHANGES LIKE NEW INCOMING INDUSTRIAL HEAVY, UH, YEAH, IF THEY WERE TO SELL THE PROPERTY OR, UH, REALLY, UM, TRY TO CHANGE THE NATURE OF THEIR BUSINESS TO WHERE IT NO LONGER MATCHED TO THE ZONING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY RECOMMENDING MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S WHERE IT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE. 
          BUT AGAIN, AS, AS THEY'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING TODAY, UH, THEY, EVERYBODY, ALL THESE BUSINESSES WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, SOMEBODY WHO WAS BORN ON THE EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO AND MY DAD WAS A PROUD CHEROKEE, SAM HOUSTON HIGH SCHOOL. 
          UM, A QUESTION FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. 
          YOU, YOU GUYS SAID YOU HAD TWO, AND I KNOW AT THE LAST TIME YOU MET WITH US LAST, UH, COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THREE WEEKS AGO, YOU SAID THAT ONE OF THEM, UH, WAS AT, I THINK AT, UH, CLAUDE BLACK, UH, THE BARBARA JORDAN CENTER. 
          BARBARA JORDAN, UH, CENTER. 
          AND I THINK Y'ALL SAID IT WAS LIKE 60 PLUS THAT WAS NEIGHBORS, NOT, NOT BUSINESS PEOPLE. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA. 
          IT, IT WAS BOTH. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WAS BOTH. 
          AND DID Y'ALL RECEIVE ANY, UH, TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE MOST RESIDENTS ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS. 
          DID Y'ALL RECEIVE ANY NEGATIVE OR OPPOSING, UM, VERBIAGE OR, OR FROM ANYBODY OPPOSING THIS THAT WERE, THAT WAS A NEIGHBOR? I'M JUST CURIOUS. 
          NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          NO BUSINESS LIKE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, THE QUESTIONS ARE BEING ADDRESSED TO MR. WILSON RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, IF YOU WOULD ONLY ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ARE ADDRESSED TO YOU, I'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND CLARIFY FOR ME, UH, REAL QUICK, UH, GOING BACK TO THAT FIRST QUESTION I HAD. 
          SO THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE ARE GONNA BE BASICALLY KIND OF GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT THEY COULD KIND OF, WHAT CONFUSED ME, I THINK, UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT TO ME AGAIN? YEAH. 
          SO I WANT US TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS OF USING THE WORD GRANDFATHERED. 
          'CAUSE GRANDFATHERED IMPLIES YOU DON'T HAVE THE ZONING THAT YOU NEED TO CONTINUE OPERATING YOUR BUSINESS. 
          NONE OF THE BUSINESSES THERE TODAY ARE GOING TO BE GRANDFATHERED BECAUSE 
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THEY WILL BE ZONED TO EXPRESSLY ALLOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. 
          UM, SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT NON-CONFORMING, THOSE PROVISIONS WILL NOT APPLY. 
          THE RULES THAT APPLY TO NON-CONFORMING PROPERTIES SAY YOU'RE ALLOWED TO KEEP WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT YOU CAN'T EXPAND. 
          THOSE ARE NOT GOING TO APPLY TO THESE BUSINESSES. 
          WHAT WILL APPLY TO THESE BUSINESSES IS IF THEY INTEND TO CHANGE THEIR USE, IF THEY WANT TO GO FROM AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE TO SOME OTHER INDUSTRIAL USE, THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. 
          THAT'S THE LIMITATION. 
          THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CHANGE TO ANY USE ALLOWED IN C TWO OR C3 OR ANY OF THESE OTHER BASE DISTRICTS THAT ARE BEING APPLIED TO THEM. 
          BUT THEY ARE NOT GRANDFATHERED BECAUSE THEY ARE LEGALLY ZONED FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S TWO ISSUES, RIGHT? THERE'S RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND PEOPLE WHO, WHO HAVE BUSINESSES. 
          SO SAME QUESTION. 
          IF I'M A RESIDENT, I LIVE ON CHATEAU BOULEVARD OR I LIVE ON GAMBLER, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT ME? UH, WELL, WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE, IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT THE EXISTING HOMES. 
          UH, SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE. 
          DO YOU MEAN WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT TO THE HOMES FROM THIS CHANGE OF ZONING? NO, I I WAS SPECIFICALLY SAYING FOR IF I'M A RESIDENT. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S, BECAUSE MOST OF 'EM ARE GONNA BE R FOUR OR THEY'RE GONNA BE RESIDENTIAL ZONE, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          SO MOST, MOST OF THE HOMES ARE ALREADY ZONED APPROPRIATELY. 
          WAS THERE ANY, WAS THERE ANY HOMES THAT WERE NOT ZONED APPROPRIATELY? MAYBE THEY WERE STUCK ON, YOU KNOW, 1952 ZONING FOR SOME REASON THINGS HAPPEN, NOT HOMES SPECIFICALLY. 
          THERE ARE, IF YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THAT MAP, THERE, THERE ARE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AREA THERE TO THE NORTH OF GAMBLER THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE CORRECT ZONING, BUT THEY WERE NOT HOMES, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          AND THEN, UH, ONE THING I, I WANNA, I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS FOR LATER, BUT UH, THIS IS MORE OF A, OKAY, I GUESS A QUESTION. 
          SOME OF THE INITIAL ZONING WAS THE 19 52, 19 57, AND I JUST WANNA JUST STRESS THAT IN 1952, THAT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME WHERE CERTAIN, UH, IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT TIME AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD FROM NOW, UH, GOING FORWARD. 
          NOW THAT BEING SAID, IS THERE ANY FUTURE PLANS FOR OTHER REZONING OUTSIDE OF THIS AREA? UH, NOT DIRECTLY OUTSIDE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU YOU MEAN LIKE DIRECTLY SURROUNDING THIS AREA? I MEAN, OR EAST SIDE? A LARGER EAST SIDE. 
          UM, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          LET ME THINK. 
          I'M DONE WITH MY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          ALRIGHT, YOU WILL HAVE A SECOND ROUND SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO USE IT. 
          COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, QUESTIONS 10 MINUTES? NO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY, 10 MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU MR. I WON'T BE PICKING UP 10 MINUTES. 
          I HAVE A VERY BRIEF QUESTION FOR STAFF. 
          SO EARLIER YOU SHOWED A TIMELINE, UM, SO WHAT IS THE DRIVING FACTOR BEHIND THAT TIMELINE? SO TYPICALLY WITH OUR LARGE AREA REZONING CASES, WE, UM, ONCE WE, UH, ARE RECEIVE THE INITIAL RESOLUTION IN CCR, WE, UM, WE AS STAFF DETERMINE WHAT IS AN APPROPRIATE TIMELINE, TYPICALLY BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE AREA AND HOW MUCH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS GOING TO BE NEEDED. 
          UM, AND SO IN, IN THIS SITUATION, WE, WE ANTICIPATED IT WOULD NEED A QUITE A WHILE TO GET A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FROM ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE AREA. 
          SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW WE DECIDED THOSE DATES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER HUI. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER CHASE QUESTIONS? HI. 
          YES, UM, SORRY I COULDN'T GET THE NAME OF THE GENTLEMAN WHO, UM, HAS THE KOA. 
          COULD HE COME UP PLEASE, MR. RODIE, IF YOU WOULD? YES, MA'AM. 
          HI, MR. RODIE. 
          UM, SO YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU, UH, WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE THAT THEY'VE ASSIGNED TO YOU, IT DIDN'T QUITE FIT, UM, WHAT YOUR PROPERTY DOES OR MAYBE DOES IN THE FUTURE? IT'S, I'M LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR. 
          IT'S THE, IT'S THE BASE ZONING, NOT THE CONDITIONAL USE, THE BASE ZONING. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SO I'M A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH KOA AS I'VE STAYED IN A FEW, SO I KNOW WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LITTLE CABINS MM-HMM. 
          UM, THOSE ARE LIKE THE LITTLE WOOD ONES WITH MAYBE AN AIR CONDITIONING UNIT, BUT NO, UH, NO PLUMBING. 
          UM, IS, ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT YOU CAN'T EXPAND TO THOSE, UM, LARGER, UH, CABIN TYPES THAT HAVE THE TOILETS, THE SHOWERS, UM, AND A LITTLE LOFT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE NO, WE JUST WANT, WE JUST WANT THE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE RVS, CAMPING CABINS AND IF WE NEED TO, WE USED TO HAVE THEM IN THE PAST, UH, MOBILE HOMES FOR OUR STAFF, BUT WE DON'T HAVE MOBILE HOMES TODAY, BUT WE MAY WANNA PUT SOME IN THE FUTURE. 
          I SEE. 
          AND WHEN WERE YOU 
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NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS? UM, BASE REZONING. 
          I, I GOT, I, I WAS IN EUROPE AND I GOT BACK LIKE THE FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST. 
          THAT'S WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WERE YOU ABLE TO REACH OUT TO STAFF AND, UM, COMMUNICATE YOUR CONCERNS AND START THAT? YES, I DIALOGUE. 
          I WENT TO THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AT BARBARA JORDAN, UH, MEETING HALL AND EXPRESSED OUR CONCERNS ABOUT BEING A CAMPGROUND. 
          AND THE CITY DOESN'T DO MUCH RV PARK ZONING. 
          THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A CLASSIFICATION FOR IT, WHICH WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE. 
          BUT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ZONE THE C TWO IS A RETAIL LIGHT ZONING FOR RETAIL BUSINESSES IS, IT DOESN'T FIT CAMPGROUNDS OR WAREHOUSES OR TRUCKING SET FACILITIES. 
          IT'S A C TWO LIGHT RETAIL. 
          IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD PUT A, LIKE A SEVEN 11 INTO OR A FLOWER SHOP. 
          IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T FIT WHAT'S TRYING TO GET FORCED OVER HERE. 
          AND DID YOU HAVE TIME TO MAKE A SUGGESTION OF, OF WHAT WOULD FIT YOUR PROPERTY BETTER? OR DID THAT CONVERSATION NOT BE OH, WE, WE, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS DOWN HERE WITH STAFF AND WE, WE FEEL THAT THE MO THE THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING PARK IS SO FLEXIBLE WITH THE RV CONDITIONAL USE IS, WOULD BE OUR ULTIMATE IF WE EVER WANTED TO SELL THE CAMPGROUND. 
          SOME BUYER'S GONNA GET REAL CONFUSED WITH RETAIL ZONING ON A CAMPGROUND, EVEN THOUGH THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONAL USE. 
          I MEAN, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR FUTURE CITY LEADERS ARE GONNA DO WITH ZONING LAWS AND WHAT THE STATE MAY DO. 
          AND I MEAN, WITH THE C TWO ZONING, I CAN BUILD 2,500 APARTMENT UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY IF I CHANNELIZE IT AND LIFT IT OUTTA THE FLOOD PLAIN. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT IS. 
          I THINK THE INTENT IS TO GET THAT NASTY I TWO USES OUT OF THE WAREHOUSES AND, AND VACANT LAND ACROSS THE STREET. 
          AND AS A EFFECT, ALL OF US ARE GETTING IMPACTED. 
          POOR, POOR DICK PEACOCK. 
          EVERY TIME HE HAS A VACANCY, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE AND ASK FOR REZONING. 
          HE COULD SPEND 10 GRAND WITH A CONSULTANT IN THREE OR FOUR MONTHS OF HIS TIME. 
          I MEAN, IF HE WANTS TO CHANGE A GUY FROM A PLUMBER TO A HYDROPONIC FARM INSIDE THE WAREHOUSE, IT'S A CHANGE OF USE. 
          SO IT'S NOT QUITE AS EASY AS WHAT'S BEING PORTRAYED HERE. 
          THIS IS, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS VERY COMPLICATED AND IF I WAS A, A GUY WITH A WAREHOUSE WITH A 5 MILLION LOAN ON IT, MR. RODIE, SHE HASN'T ASKED YOU A QUESTION YET. 
          WELL, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK, THANK YOU SIR. 
          UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF NOW. 
          UM, AM AM I DONE IS YES FOR NOW . 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO I, SO MR. RODDY WOULD LIKE MOBILE HOME PARK ASSIGNED AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S TYPICALLY NOT ASSIGNED WITHIN CITY LIMITS. 
          UM, IS THERE A CONDITIONAL USE FOR HIM TO HAVE THAT WHILE HE IS IN OPERATION OF THE KOA IF ONCE HE SELLS? UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DON'T WANNA SEE IS A MOBILE HOME PARK, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE ARE RENTING AND PLACING NEW MOBILE HOMES WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, ESPECIALLY ON A FLOOD PLAIN. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE, WE DON'T WANT THAT, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO GIVE HIM WHAT HE NEEDS TO OPERATE BUT ALSO LIMIT IT FROM UM, AFTER HE SELLS THE PROPERTY AND IT'S NO LONGER USED AS A KOA THAT WE DON'T SEE IT AS A MOBILE HOME PARK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, A LANDOWNER WOULD BE RENTING SPACES FOR MOBILE HOMES? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          LEMME CLARIFY. 
          SO THE, THE DISTRICT THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED FOR THE KOA CAMP RAM IS C TWO, SO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK. 
          UH, SO WE FEEL THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED ALIGNS WITH THE WAY THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING THE PROPERTY TODAY. 
          COULD MR. ROAD, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST ADD ABOUT THE ABILITY TO DO THE MANUFACTURING HOUSING PARK. 
          IT, UM, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ADD THE CONDITIONAL USE TO THE MHC 'CAUSE IT'S A SPECIAL DISTRICT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, COULD MR. RODIE ADD A MOBILE HOME TO HIS PROPERTY WITH THE ZONING YOU'RE PROPOSING? LIKE HE, LIKE HE SAID LIKE FOR STAFF OR, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THESE KOAS HAVE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN IT AS A HOST. 
          WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO ADD A HOME LIKE THAT WITH THE, THE ZONING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR THEIR PROPERTY? I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT UM, AGAIN, THAT'S NOT HOW THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING THE PROPERTY. 
          SO, UH, US RECOMMENDING STAFF RECOMMENDING A DISTRICT FOR A POTENTIAL FUTURE USE WOULD, IN MY OPINION, GO AGAINST WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO IN THE CCR. 
          IF, IF I MAY JUMP IN HERE BRIEFLY AS WELL. 
          THEY MAY NOT ADD A MANUFACTURED HOME TO THE PROPERTY WITH THE ZONING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY STAFF, BUT THEY COULD ALSO NOT ADD THAT TO THE ZONING THAT THEY HAVE TODAY. 
          TODAY BECAUSE THEY ARE ZONED TO I TWO AND USED AS A RECREATIONAL 
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VEHICLE PARK. 
          THEY ARE A LEGAL, REGISTERED NON-CONFORMING USE AND THE ZONING THAT THEY'RE BEING GIVEN WOULD BRING THEM INTO CONFORMITY, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR EXPANSION. 
          SO THE PRESENCE OR ABSENCE OF THE MANUFACTURED HOME IS NOT ALLOWED WITH THE CURRENT ZONING OR THE PROPOSED ZONING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT, I'M UP. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT I TWO. 
          WHAT IS I TWO? ANY ANYONE NOT IN THE AUDIENCE? STAFF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE IF YOU WOULD. 
          UM, CON CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS. 
          UM, I CAN ADD, GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, I'LL READ FROM THE CODE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THIS DISTRICT ACCOMMODATES USES THAT ARE HIGHLY HAZARDOUS, ENVIRONMENTALLY SEVERE IN CHARACTER AND OR GENERATE VERY HIGH VOLUMES OF TRUCK TRAFFIC. 
          IT'S ESTABLISHED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SITES FOR ACTIVITIES WHICH INVOLVED MAJOR TRANSPORTATION TERMINALS AND MANUFACTURING FACILITIES THAT HAVE A GREATER IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA THAN INDUSTRIES FOUND IN L OR I ONE DISTRICT. 
          THESE DISTRICTS ARE LOCATED FOR CONVENIENT ACCESS FOR EXISTING AND FUTURE ARTERIAL THOROUGHFARE, ANDRA RAILWAY LINES. 
          UM, THESE DISTRICTS ARE IN MANY INSTANCES SEPARATED FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS BY BUSINESS OR LIGHT INDUSTRY AREAS OR BY NATURAL BARRIERS WHERE THEY ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          UM, THANK YOU MS. SANDERS. 
          I'M GONNA STOP YOU. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO LOOKING AT SORT OF THE BASE ZONING LISTING, UH, FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE, UH, LET'S SEE, A SEEDLING GAS MANUFACTURING AND STORAGE. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, OH GOD. 
          HOW ABOUT CHEMICAL PROCESS, CLOTHING, MANUFACTURING? SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. 
          ANYTHING WITH CHEMICAL PROCESSING. 
          CHEMICAL BULK STORAGE? CORRECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MR. WILSON, DO YOU, HOW MANY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED I TWO RIGHT NOW ARE IN THAT KIND OF SUPER HAZARDOUS USAGES? LIKE THE CHEMICAL PROCESSING, THOSE KINDS OF USAGES? I DON'T DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY DOING THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I TWO IS ABSOLUTELY NOT APPROPRIATE PERIOD. 
          CORRECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO LET'S GO DOWN TO INDUSTRIAL ONE THEN. 
          THE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING. 
          THE, UH, LET'S SEE. 
          SO WE HAVE MANUFACTURED HOMES AND OVERSIGHT VEHICLE SALES. 
          WELL ACTUALLY, SORRY, I'M GONNA BACK UP MR. WILSON, LEMME BACK UP AND ASK THIS QUESTION. 
          SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT SOMETHING HAS A CONDITIONAL USE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU'RE PULLING DOWN A USE FROM A HIGHER INTENSITY USE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES SIR. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO WHEN, GO AHEAD. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE C TWO CDS THAT YOU PROPOSED, THERE'S NOT A SINGLE ONE THAT HAS AN I TWO USE THAT'S PULLED DOWN TO THAT C TWO BASED ZONING. 
          COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? SO IS THERE A SINGLE I TWO USE THAT'S BEING PULLED DOWN TO C TWO, THE C TWO BASE ZONING? SO THE CONDITIONAL USE IS NOT COMING FROM THE I TWO BASE USES THAT, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S NOT HAPPENING. 
          IT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. 
          WE CANNOT CONDITION DOWN ANY I TWO, UH, PERMITTED USES. 
          IF IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN I ONE THAT COULD BE CONDITIONED OUT, BUT NOT I TWO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE BEING PULLED DOWN THEN FROM I ONE. 
          CAN YOU THINK OF ANY OFFHAND? SO THERE ARE SOME THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING A STRAIGHT C TWO OR A C3 ON, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN, WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING WHERE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING A COMMISSION, A CONDITIONAL USE THAT'S COMING FROM THE SERIES OF USES FOR I ONE? YES, I BELIEVE SO. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE? IS THAT POSSIBLE? UM, I MIGHT HAVE TO GET ASHLEY AL TO COME UP HERE AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ASHLEY, YOU CAN STAY WHERE YOU'RE, WHERE YOU ARE, BUT IF YOU COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION. 
          SO WE DO HAVE, UM, ONES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN I ONE SUCH AS THE METAL PRODUCTS FABRICATION AND THE PLASTIC VINYL PROCESSING USE THAT IS, THAT IS BEING A CONDITIONAL USE IN A C TWO. 
          ALRIGHT, SO LET ME ASK THIS, UH, MR. FARMER, I'M GONNA ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS IN A SECOND, BUT I'M NOT DONE WITH YOU MR. WILL. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT ARE PEOPLE ASKING FOR L USES, UH, CERTAIN BUSINESS OWNERS ASKING FOR L USES, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WORK AND MR. FARMER, UH, IS THE COPPER MANUFACTURER OR COPPER CUTTER I GUESS REALLY? MM-HMM . 
          UH, L WOULDN'T NECESSARILY ALLOW HIM TO DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO, WOULD IT? NO. 
          AND, AND, AND THAT AGAIN, I BELIEVE WOULD GO AGAINST WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO IN THE CCR, WHICH WAS TO REDUCE, UM, BASICALLY NOT REDUCE 
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BUT TO ALIGN THE ZONING WITH THE CURRENT USES. 
          UM, RATHER THAN TRY TO KEEP MORE OF THE INDUSTRIAL USES. 
          AND THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN PARTICULAR WOULD ALLOW A LOT OF THOSE OTHER USES LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AS WELL. 
          UM, MAYBE NOT QUITE AS INTENSE AS A CHEMICAL FACTORY, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW MORE INDUSTRIAL USES INTO THE AREA. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, UH, MR. FARMER, IF YOU WOULD YES. 
          COME ON UP. 
          AND SO, MR. FARMER, YOU AND I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY DURING THE BREAK, RIGHT? OKAY. 
          SO LET ME ASK YOU, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY L AS, UH, AS AN OPTION, UH, BUT AS MR. WILSON, DID I CALL YOU WILDER AGAIN? NO, YOU SAID WILSON. 
          OH, GOOD. 
          UM, AS MR. WILSON NOTED, L WOULDN'T NECESSARILY ALLOW YOUR COMPANY, WHICH DOES COPPER AND UH, COPPER CUTTING, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          LET ME, LET ME EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS KIND OF BROAD. 
          FIRST OF ALL, WE, WE DON'T CUT WITH ANY GASES, ANY FLAME, ANY UM, OXYGEN AND TYLENE, ANY PLASMA CUTTER. 
          EVERYTHING IS COLD CUT WITH, UH, CARBIDE CHIP SAWS. 
          SO, AND SAWING IS A SMALL PART OF ALL OF OUR SALES REALLY. 
          WE SELL, WE BUY IN BULK, WHETHER IT'S COPPER THAT WE SELL TO CPS ENERGY OR ALUMINUM, UH, BRASS AND BRONZE. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF HIGHEND METALS THAT ARE REAL CLEAN. 
          UM, SO WE DON'T CREATE ANY SMOKE, ANY FUMES. 
          UM, WE JUST CREATE CHIPS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. FARMER, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          IF I CUT YOU OFF, I APOLOGIZE BUT I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. 
          BUT I GUESS MY POINT IS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE DISCUSSION I JUST HAD WITH MR. WILSON L WOULDN'T ALLOW YOU TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, BUT A C TWO WITH THE METAL, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL PROPER TITLE? METAL PRODUCTS FABRICATION METAL PRODUCTS. 
          FABRICATION WOOD. 
          SO GIVEN THAT INFORMATION, UH, DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR OPINION ABOUT THIS REZONING? I DON'T KNOW THAT I UNDERSTAND IT ALL ABOUT THIS, THE EXCEPTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THE GOOD NEWS IS THIS IS A RECOMMENDING BODY, WHICH MEANS THAT WE DON'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS. 
          WE VOTE, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND SO YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO DO THAT. 
          I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO GET WITH MR. WILSON OR MS. AL OVER HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS IS BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A A I ONE USE, RIGHT? THE CCR SAYS, UM, WELL NOW I'M COMMENTING, I'M NOT GONNA COMMENT ANYMORE. 
          MR. FARMER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, EVERYONE'S TALKED TO ROADIE. 
          UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN, WOULD YOU COME UP PLEASE WITH ALL DUE ALACRITY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER . 
          UM, ALRIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT, YOU REPRESENT, UH, MR. PEACOCK. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND HE HAS ABOUT 10 UNITS, GIVE OR TAKE? YES. 
          GET 10. 
          10 ADDRESSES. 
          10 ADDRESSES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND, UM, ARE THOSE ADDRESSES BEING RENTED? IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW MANY OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY, UH, HAVE TENANTS? I BELIEVE NINE. 
          WHAT ARE THE USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE THERE, IF YOU KNOW? AFRAID YOU'RE GONNA ASK ME THAT. 
          GENERALLY. 
          WELL, GENERALLY, I MEAN, TWO OF THEM HAVE BEEN, UM, ARMORED CAR COMPANIES, BRINKS, AND THERE'S THE, THE OTHER ONE, UM, ONE OF 'EM IS LIKE, UH, A MACHINE TYPE SHOP. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO THE CITY HAS GIVEN ALL OF HIS PROPERTY WAREHOUSING DESIGNATIONS, WHICH WHERE WAREHOUSING IS, IS LOOSE AS STAFF SAID. 
          BUT IF HE WANTED TO DO AUTO REPAIR, HE COULDN'T DO IT. 
          HE'D HAVE TO COME IN AND DO A REZONE. 
          IF HE WANTED TO DO A MACHINE SHOP, AC REPAIR, ALL THOSE WOULD REQUIRE REZONING UNDER C TWO CD FOR WAREHOUSING. 
          WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY. 
          SOMETHING LIKE L WOULD GIVE HIM THAT WHERE HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REZONE EVERY TIME HE GETS A NEW TENT. 
          WHAT ABOUT C3? WELL, C3 ALLOWS A LOT OF THINGS PEOPLE DON'T LIKE. 
          IT ALLOWS BARS, IT ALLOWS CLUB NIGHTCLUBS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND HE DOESN'T, NO INTENTION OF SELLING ANY ALCOHOL ON THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, NO RESTAURANT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT'S C3 IS BETTER, BUT I, IF YOU WANNA DO C3 AND A, I MEAN THAT'S A LITTLE BETTER, BUT L WOULD BE BEST. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENS. 
          UH, KEN, MR. BROWN, IF YOU WOULD POSSIBLY RUN UP HERE. 
          IF YOU'RE HERE. 
          I'LL, I'LL SEE IF IN THE, OH, NOPE. 
          THEN WE'RE MOVING ON. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          MR. OB, BOY, ARE YOU STILL HERE? YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I GOT 50 SECONDS FIRE AWAY. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, TELL ME AGAIN WHAT YOUR BUSINESS IS. 
          UH, IT'S LTL CARRIER LESS THAN LOAD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THINK OF OLD DOMINION. 
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UM, WE'RE, WE'RE NEW TO THE AREA HERE. 
          UH, YOU SERVICE LOCAL COMMUNITY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO, UM, I'M GONNA USE THE WRONG WORD TRANSCRIPT. 
          IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD? YEAH, KIND OF. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT MEANS YOU TAKE THINGS FROM A, YOU KNOW, NATIONWIDE TOP OF NETWORK AND THEN YOU TAKE 'EM THAT MIDDLE MILE IS WHAT YOU DESCRIBED AS? YEAH. 
          AND LAST MILE. 
          SO WE'RE A NETWORK. 
          SO WE HAVE TERMINAL HUBS, SO HERE, DALLAS, AUSTIN, HOUSTON. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE CAN NETWORK AND WE CAN GET STUFF FROM HERE TO DETROIT. 
          OKAY. 
          OR WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GET IT TO ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND LOCALLY. 
          SO WE PICK, WE DO PICKUPS, WE DO UH, DROP OFFS IN THE MORNING AND PICKUPS IN THE AFTERNOON. 
          AND NOW I'M OUT OF TIME, BUT THANK YOU MR. OLI. 
          UH, ALRIGHT. 
          WE ARE GOING TO GO FOR OUR SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS. 
          UM, AND THIS TIME THE LIMIT IS FIVE MINUTES. 
          SO COMMISSIONER LAWS OF TO YOU INITIALLY? YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY. 
          COMMISSIONER WHITSETT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LOGAN, I NEED TO JUST CLARIFY, UH, MY PROPOSAL, SORRY, CLARIFY ON THE BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THE CCR. 
          THE LAST SENTENCE SAYS THIS PROPOSAL SEEKS TO REZONE THE PROPERTIES AND THE LAND USE AS NECESSARY TO ALIGN THE ZONING WITH THE EXISTING USES. 
          THAT SOUNDS CONTRADICTORY TO ME BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS UNAL ALIGNING THE ZONING WITH THE EXISTING USES. 
          IT WAS SAYING TO ALIGN, TO CHANGE THINGS, TO ALIGN THE ZONING WITH THE EXISTING USE. 
          THE EXISTING USE IN MANY CASES IS INDUSTRIAL. 
          NOW I THINK I'M IN AGREEMENT THAT PROBABLY I TOO IS NOT RELEVANT. 
          NOT REALISTIC AND IT'S NOT NEEDED. 
          THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO THAT NEED IT, BUT UM, THIS DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AND WAS SOUNDING JUST THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT IS GOING ON. 
          UH, GET MY QUESTIONS HERE. 
          YOU ARE SAYING PROPERTIES CON CONTINUE THEIR CURRENT USE UNDER C TWO. 
          UH, WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THAT MEANS THEY'RE FROZEN INTO A NARROW SPECIFIC USE THAT BASED ON THE CURRENT USE? LIKE LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE IF IT'S A, UH, AUTO REPAIR RIGHT NOW AND THEY WANT TO EXPAND AND HAVE A WELDING SHOP IN THERE, CAN THEY DO THAT? YOU COULD NOT EXPAND INTO A NON-CONFORMING USE? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEY HAVE TO STAY WITH THEIR AUTO REPAIR. 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO STAY WITH THEIR EXISTING USE OR CHANGE TO A CONFORMING USE, WHICH IS C TWO. 
          IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHATEVER BASE ZONING DISTRICT THEY'RE BEING ASSIGNED? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ONE OTHER QUESTION. 
          DID Y'ALL UH, EVALUATE WHETHER SB 9 29, UH, WHICH IS THIS BILL ABOUT REQUIRING COMPENSATION, UH, IF THERE'S A DOWN ZONING? UH, WW IS THE CONDITIONAL USE THE WAY AROUND THAT? YES. 
          ESSENTIALLY. 
          W I'M VERY AWARE OF SB 9 29 AND I KNOW THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS HERE IF I MISSPEAK, BUT SB 9 29 DEALS WITH WHEN A MUNICIPAL ACTION RENDERS A PROPERTY NON-CONFORMING, THESE PROPERTIES ARE NOT NON-CONFORMING. 
          IT DOES NOT SAY A DOWN ZONING REQUIRES COMPENSATION. 
          YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU DO THE CONDITIONAL USE SET CIRCUMVENT THAT IT IS NOT AT ALL A TOOL TO CIRCUMVENT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE AND STATE LAW. 
          I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WOODS. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLUM. 
          NO, I'M ALL RIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER SIPES. 
          ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, JUST ONE QUESTION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KIND OF RELATE TO THIS ZONING BACK TO 19 52, 19 57. 
          I'M ASSUMING IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY THE OUTSKIRTS OF OF SAN ANTONIO AT THIS TIME. 
          SO MY QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF IS CURRENTLY, IS THERE ANOTHER AREA IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA THAT HAS A LOT OF, UH, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING? IF THERE'S MULTIPLE, JUST SAY YES, THERE ARE DEFINITELY MULTIPLE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ARE MOST OF THOSE OUT IN THE OUTSKIRTS, LIKE PAST 16? OH FOUR TO 11 AREA? I MEAN, LIKE ALL OUT THERE. 
          I, I WOULD SAY MANY OF THEM ARE PROBABLY IN WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN CONSIDERED THE OUTSKIRTS 50 TO 60 YEARS AGO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA. 
          COMMISSIONER 
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RODRIGUEZ? NOPE. 
          COMMISSIONER HUI. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          AND WE ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE, UH, COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, RIGHT? NOT ASK QUESTIONS? NOPE. 
          STILL QUESTIONS? OH, STILL QUESTIONS WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SIX MINUTES AND FOUR MINUTES OF COMMENTS AFTER WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE'RE STILL IN PUBLIC HEARING. 
          I'M NOT GONNA MESS IT UP AGAIN. 
          I WILL, I WAS, I'LL GIVE MY TIME BACK. 
          CLARITY. 
          SORRY. 
          WE CLARITY ON SOMETHING? SORRY. 
          YOU CAN TALK TO STAFF ABOUT SOMETHING BUT NOT, NOT UP HERE. 
          QUESTIONS GO THAT WAY. 
          . 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY, I'M GIVING BACK MY TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE? NO THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT MR. OLI, GOOD NEWS. 
          I'M GONNA PULL YOU BACK UP 'CAUSE I HAVE FIVE MORE MINUTES. 
          START MY TIMER PLEASE. 
          ALRIGHT, SO, UH, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT, UH, ZONING, IF YOU KNOW? I BELIEVE IT'S I TWO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHAT IS YOUR ADDRESS? 1 39 GAMBLER. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR PROPOSED ZONING IS? L, L ONE I BELIEVE OR WHATEVER. 
          LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          LIGHT INDUSTRIAL? YEAH. 
          WELL, HOW, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT MR. CHRISTENSEN'S ASKING FOR ? UH, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CAN WE CHECK 1139 GIBBLER PLEASE? 1 30, 1 39. 
          1 1 39. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THEY ARE, UH, REQUEST OR WE'RE RECOMMENDING L. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, THAT MAY BE AS GOOD AS WE CAN GO FOR YOU, BUT, OR AT LEAST WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND DOES L ALLOW THEM TO DO THE KIND OF, UH, STORAGE OR SHIPPING THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT? I APOLOGIZE, SORRY. 
          UM, FOR THE GIBBLER, HIS PROPERTIES 1 39 GAMBLER, WHAT WE HAVE SUGGESTED BASICALLY SHOULD MATCH WHAT IS ON THE SITE. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING FOR 1 39 GAMBLER I TWO. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT IS THE PLAN UNDER THIS LARGE AREA? E ZONING RECOMMENDING L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WHAT SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DOES. 
          I LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          IT PROVIDES A MIX OF LIGHT MANUFACTURING USES OFFICE PARK, FLEX SPACE, AND LIMITED RETAIL AND SERVICE, UH, SERVICE USES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND LOOKING AT AGAIN, THE BASE ZONING HANDOUT, THE LAST ONE IS MOVING COMPANY. 
          IS THAT WHAT CENTRAL TRANSPORT SEEMS TO BE DOING? I BELIEVE WE GAVE, WE WERE RECOMMENDING L FOR WAREHOUSING WAS SORT OF THE CATEGORY THAT WE WERE PUTTING THIS UNDER. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S BASED ZONING L RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          YOU CAN DO ANYTHING, ANYTHING THAT'S ALLOWED UNDER L OF CONCERN IS WHEN YOU GO I TWO IT DOES SAY MAJOR TRANSPORTATION HUB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          OR, SO WE WE'RE, WE'RE FREIGHT TERMINAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, SHIPS COME ON AND YEAH. 
          FREIGHT STORED ON, ON OUR TRUCKS. 
          WE DON'T. 
          ALRIGHT, I, HERE'S WHAT I'M GONNA RECOMMEND. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE MOTION'S GONNA BE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE A RECOMMENDING BODY AND SO IT'S PROBABLY WORTH TALKING TO STAFF, UH, YOU KNOW, EITHER MS. AL OR MR. WILSON, UH, AFTER THIS MEETING AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO KEEP GOING. 
          AND IF NOT, TRY TO FIND A WAY TO GET IT THERE BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNSEL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MR. ROB. 
          ALRIGHT, PATRICK. 
          MR. CHRISTENSEN. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          YES, COMMISSIONER. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SINCE YOU MAKE UP ABOUT 16% OR YOUR CLIENT DOES OF THESE PROPERTIES, CONVINCE ME WHY YOU SHOULD GET ILL LIKE MR. ALOY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL CONVINCE YOU. 
          I'LL TRY . 
          I'M NOT SAYING YOU'LL BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          I, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE, I'M NOT KNOCKING STAFF HERE. 
          IT'S A LITTLE DISINGENUOUS WHEN WE SAY WE'RE GIVING YOU ZONING THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY. 
          WE GET THAT ANYWAYS. 
          IF THEY WERE TO ZONE US OUR FIVE SINGLE FAMILY UNDER STATE LAW, WE HAVE NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. 
          CAN I STOP YOU THERE REAL QUICK? SURE. 
          YOU'RE THE BOSS. 
          I GOT A MINUTE. 
          BUT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S GRANDFATHERED IN AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? SO IF YOU QUIT DOING IT, THEN IT'S IMMEDIATELY BACK TO THE BASE ZONING. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT LOGAN DOESN'T WANT US TO USE THE WORD GRANDFATHER. 
          I KNOW HE DOESN'T, BUT HE'S NOT HERE RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT'S WHY I PICKED IT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THEN WE CAN USE IT ALL WE WANT. 
          YOU GOT A MINUTE AND A HALF TO CONVINCE ME. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR A CLIENTS, FOR AN OWNERS SUCH AS MINE THAT OWNS THESE SMALL 10,000, 20,000 SQUID WEAR WAREHOUSES, EVERY TIME HE GETS A NEW TENANT WITH THE C TWO CD FOR WAREHOUSING, LET'S SAY HE GETS A MACHINE SHOP TENANT, WELL THEN HE HAS TO COME IN AND DO A REZONING AND THEY'RE CHANGING THE PLAN AS WELL, WHICH MEANS WHATEVER HE ASK FOR, YOU HAVE TO DO A PLAN AMENDMENT AS WELL. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, STAFF DOESN'T LIKE TO JUST HAVE ONE LITTLE LOT WITHIN A ONE MILE SQUARE PLAN CHANGED. 
          SO HE'S REALLY GETTING IT, IT'S REALLY HAMPERING HIS ABILITY TO, TO GET FUTURE TENANTS AND TO GET FUTURE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY FOR THESE BUILDINGS BECAUSE 
          [03:10:01]
MOST TENANTS AREN'T GONNA WANNA WAIT FOR REZONING. 
          THE REZONING IS GONNA BE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT. 
          OKAY, BUT YOU'D AGREE WITH ME, I TWO IS INAPPROPRIATE. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WHAT ABOUT, I WANT I ONE WILL BE GREAT, BUT WE REALIZE THAT'S PROBABLY PUSHING IT THE ENVELOPE TOO FAR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I, I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. 
          NOW GIVE ME THE, UH, 10 OR SO ADDRESSES ON PAULSON FOR YOUR CLIENT PLEASE. 
          10 15 PAULSON. 
          10 11 PAULSON. 
          1102 PAULSON. 
          10 14 PAULSON. 
          1006 PAULSON. 
          1002 PAULSON. 
          AM I GOING TOO FAST? NOPE. 
          GO NINE 14 PAULSON. 
          10 47 BRUSSELS. 
          10 39 BRUSSELS. 
          AND 10 30 BRUSSELS. 
          ALRIGHT, WHAT WAS THE THIRD FROM LAST? 10 47 BRUSSELS. 
          ALRIGHT, AND THAT IS MY TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. 
          UH, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AT THIS POINT THE ZONING COMMISSION WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER LOAF TO, UH, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. 
          AND THEN WE WILL HAVE, UH, DELIBERATION REGARDING THOSE. 
          IT WILL BE FIRST ROUND OF SIX MINUTES PER COMMISSIONER AND THEN POTENTIALLY FOUR MINUTES PER COMMISSIONER THEREAFTER. 
          AND THEN WE WILL VOTE ON ANY QUESTION THAT IS PENDING AT THAT TIME AND GO FROM THERE. 
          IT'S GONNA BE FUN. 
          LET'S DO IT. 
          COMMISSIONER LO, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          I'M GONNA GIVE SOME COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL DO A MOTION AT THE END. 
          I HAVE A LOT OF NOTES FROM TODAY, SO I'M GONNA BE REFERRING TO THOSE. 
          UM, REALLY JUST WANNA START IT BY SAYING THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT. 
          I KNOW IT'S A LENGTHY MEETING AND IT'S A RANDOM TUESDAY AND YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO, BUT, UH, I THINK FOR EVERYONE WHO SHOWED TODAY, OOPS, EVERYONE WHO SHOWED UP TODAY, I THINK YOU ALL ARE HERE TO FIGHT FOR THE PLACE YOU CALL HOME OR THE PLACE YOU DO BUSINESS. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING OUT ON, ON THIS ITEM. 
          UM, I ALSO WANNA APPRECIATE THE FOLKS WHO GIVE SOME HISTORY, BOTH STAFF AND RESIDENTS AND SOME BUSINESS OWNERS WHO SHARED ABOUT, UM, HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I THINK IMPACTS OF RED LINING ARE STILL VERY MUCH FELT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ALL OVER THE CITY. 
          UM, SO I'M HOPING SOME OF THIS CONVERSATION IN THE LAR CAN START TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT WE STILL SEE TODAY. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THE CASE IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ALL THE RESIDENTS. 
          UM, THANK YOU TO UHIA, I THINK I GOT THAT RIGHT FOR SHARING. 
          UM, ALSO APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ON THE OPEN MEETINGS AND HOW IT WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE IN THE AREA. 
          I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE EVERYONE HAVE A VOICE. 
          UM, I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE AREA IS ONE OF THE OLDEST BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, I ALSO KNOW THAT THANKS TO REDLINING AND THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING, UM, THAT WAS A DELIBERATE ACTION AND, UM, I THINK IT'S CLEAR TO PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE HERE. 
          I'LL, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. 
          IT'S CLEAR. 
          CLEAR THAT INDUSTRIAL WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          UM, I, I THINK ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HERE TODAY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE A RIGHT TO FEEL SAFE AND HEALTHY AND, YOU KNOW, COMFORTABLE IN THE PLACE THAT THEY LIVE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO, UM, REALLY HEAR THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND, AND THE OTHER HARMS THAT COME WITH LIVING NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL. 
          FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS LER WAS RESIDENT DRIVEN, THAT THEN LED TO A CCR, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY FOR SHARING, ENGAGING WITH NEARBY BUSINESSES. 
          I KNOW OVER THE YEARS YOU'VE HAD SOME PORTA POTTY NEXT TO YOU, WHICH OBVIOUSLY GOT ADJUSTED, BUT JUST DEALING WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY THE ONES WHO HAVE BEEN THERE A WHILE THAT HAVE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I THINK THE HOPE FOR THIS PROCESS AS A WHOLE WAS THAT, UM, IT COULD BE A BIT OF A COMMUNITY CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND THE NEIGHBORS, SORRY, THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS. 
          UM, TO, AND THEN TO ALSO CORRECT JUST DECADES OF, OF UM, AN ISSUE THAT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          JUST CORRECTING INDUSTRIAL USE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, I WANNA APPRECIATE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO STAFF AS WELL FOR DOING A LOT OF OUTREACH AND DUE DILIGENCE. 
          ASHLEY AND FOREST ESPECIALLY. 
          I FEEL LIKE I HEARD A LOT OF THE WORK YOU GUYS PUT IN TO CREATE THE RECOMMENDATION, SO APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT NO BUSINESSES ARE CURRENTLY DOING I TWO. 
          UM, IT DOES FEEL LIKE THE, THIS LER WILL ENSURE THAT THAT REALITY CONTINUES AND IT CAN ACTUALLY CODIFY THAT REALITY. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT'S BEING USED TODAY AND THE CURRENT BUSINESSES, UM, THE, MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY IS THAT THE CURRENT BUSINESSES WILL BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE PREVENTING ANY CURRENT USE OF THE BUSINESSES. 
          UM, AND THAT EVERYTHING CAN CONTINUE AS IS. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, I WANT TO MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS LARI THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE AND I THINK THIS ALIGNS WITH WHAT THE, UM, LONG-TERM RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. 
          UM, I FEEL THAT THE LAR IS, UM, ADJUSTING APPLICABLE ZONING THAT WILL PROTECT NOT ONLY THE NEIGHBORS, BUT ALSO FUTURE HOMES AND THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE LIVED THERE FOR DECADES AND ALSO LIVE THERE CURRENTLY. 
          UM, SO YEAH, APPRECIATION 
          [03:15:01]
TO ALL WHO HAVE COME TO SHARE AND, UH, I MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER THREE BY COMMISSIONER LOOF. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER SIPES IS A SECOND. 
          COMMISSIONER SIPES, DO YOU JUST WANNA GO DOWN THE ROW AND GET TO YOU WHEN WE GET TO YOU? YOU WANT DISCUSSION NOW? OH, I GUESS I'LL GO NOW. 
          ALRIGHT, GO NOW. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AS WELL PREPARED AS OUR DISTRICT TWO COMMISSIONER, BUT THAT'S JUST HOW I AM. 
          UM, I DO WANT TO, UH, TO ALSO THANK THE NEIGHBORS FOR, FOR COMING OUT AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS. 
          UM, IT'S CASES LIKE THIS THAT THAT'S WHY I, I'VE REALLY ENJOYED BEING ON ZONING COMMISSION. 
          I KNOW THAT SOUNDS ABSOLUTELY DUMB, BUT IT'S, IT'S TO SEE THE PASSION FROM, FROM NEIGHBORS THAT, THAT REALLY, REALLY, UH, I, I ENJOY SEEING, UM, I'VE HEARD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT WAS, UH, IT WAS MS. ALI WHO, WHO SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE BUILT. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I ASKED STAFF. 
          UM, AND SO BEING A, UM, KIND OF A, A NERD WHEN IT COMES TO AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE LOOKED AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, BASED ON HISTORIC AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS. 
          UM, AND I SAW WHERE IN THE EARLY SIXTIES YEAH, IT WAS JUST FIELDS. 
          IT WAS COMPLETELY FIELDS. 
          AND SO WHEN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE BUILT, NO ONE PROBABLY ANTICIPATED THAT THERE WAS EVER GONNA BE INDUSTRIAL USES THERE. 
          UM, THE INDUSTRIAL USES CAME AND THEY KEPT EXPANDING AND EXPANDING AND EXPANDING. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT, THAT THE, UH, PROPOSAL TODAY BASICALLY HELPS TO EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, REVERSE THAT. 
          UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I DIDN'T WRITE THE OTHER NAME OTHERS NAMES THAT I TOOK NOTES ON, BUT ONE OF, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT A NEIGHBOR MADE WAS THAT IT'S, UM, ABOUT PASSING ON TO OUR LEGACY. 
          AND IT TAKES TIME TO GET IT RIGHT. 
          BUT THIS IS A START, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT REMEMBERING YOUR NAME. 
          BUT, UM, I, I THINK OF, UM, JUST THIS LAST YEAR WHEN, UM, MY DAUGHTER, WE VISITED, UH, PEARSALL PARK AND, UH, SHE WAS GOING OUT THERE WITH, WITH ONE OF HER, HER HIGH SCHOOL, UH, CLUBS, AND THEY WERE ALL CLIMBING AROUND AND I WAS SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS USED TO BE A LANDFILL LONG AGO. 
          AND, AND SHE WAS LIKE, WELL, HOW DO YOU KNOW? AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, 'CAUSE I GREW UP DOWN THE STREET, THAT'S WHY. 
          AND IT WAS A LANDFILL FOR YEARS. 
          AND EVEN WHEN I LEFT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, IT WAS, IT, IT HAD CLOSED BY THE TIME I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL RECENTLY THAT IT ACTUALLY BECAME A PARK. 
          SO, YEAH, I MEAN, WHEN I WAS THERE, IT WASN'T GREAT, BUT YOU PUT IN THE PROCESS AND EVENTUALLY IT'S FOR OUR KIDS TO ENJOY. 
          AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I SEE THIS IS, IS AS THE, IS THAT START. 
          UM, SO IT MAY BE, IT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL EVER SEE, BUT AT LEAST OUR KIDS OR OUR GRANDKIDS WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, SEE SOME POSITIVE CHANGE. 
          UM, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT STAFF HAS DONE, UM, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS, EVERY, EVERY BUSINESS CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE. 
          THERE'S NO, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE HAD, UM, NON-CONFORMING USES. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY WHAT HAPPENS IS THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A NON-CONFORMING USE, THEY CAN'T EXPAND, THEY CAN'T RENOVATE, YOU KNOW, ABOVE LIKE 50%. 
          UM, BUT AT, BUT THIS, WHAT I, I SEE THIS AS, AS A WIN-WIN WHERE THERE'S A COMPROMISE MADE THAT THOSE BUSINESSES CAN STILL OPERATE. 
          THEY CAN STILL EXPAND, BUT EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IN THE, THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE WILL, WILL GO IN, IN THEIR PLACE. 
          SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE, UH, MOTION. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES. 
          UH, I, I HOPE YOU DIDN'T FORGET YOUR DAUGHTER'S NAME, JUST TO BE CLEAR. 
          , I REMEMBER HER NAME. 
          , I REMEMBER HER NAME. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY DISCUSSION. 
          I, UH, ALWAYS CONSIDER MYSELF A COMPROMISED KIND OF GUY. 
          AND, UM, I, MY IDEAL IS TO FIND CONSENSUS AMONG DIFFERING INTERESTS AND DIFFERING PARTIES AND OPINIONS. 
          UH, IDEALLY YOU'D LIKE TO SEE CONSENSUS, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE. 
          AND I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE IF YOU 
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CAN GET A COMPROMISE THAT EVERYBODY CAN LIVE WITH, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY IN MANY CASES ABOUT THE BEST YOU CAN HOPE FOR. 
          AND, UH, SO I'VE LISTENED VERY CAREFULLY. 
          I'M STILL KIND OF A ROOKIE AT ALL THIS, AND I'M IMPRESSED BY MY COLLEAGUES AND THEIR DETAIL QUESTIONS AND THE STAFF AND ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE. 
          UH, I'M ALSO IMPRESSED WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE COME OUT AND HAVE SPOKEN VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT THEIR OPINIONS AND GIVEN US BACKGROUND AND HISTORY THAT WE OTHERWISE WOULDN'T HAVE. 
          CERTAINLY I WOULDN'T HAVE. 
          SO, UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PARTICIPATION IN ATTENDANCE AND, UH, SO MAYBE WE'RE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT AT A COMPROMISE, BUT I THINK WE'RE CLOSE TO A COMPROMISE. 
          AND FOR THAT REASON, I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THE, UH, PROPOSAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY. 
          COMMISSIONER WHITSETT. 
          IT'S A DIFFICULT, UH, SITUATION. 
          I KNOW IF I'M JUST THERE, I I WOULDN'T WANT MY INDUSTRIAL MICROPHONE KEEP, DO I NOT TALK LOUD ENOUGH? MY WIFE TELLS ME I'M TOO LOUD. 
          UH, WELL, WE ALSO NEED THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORDING. 
          . 
          UH, YEAH, I, I FULLY UNDERSTAND. 
          I MEAN, THE RESIDENTIAL OWNERS, Y'ALL GOT LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THE PORTA-POTTY THING WAS A TERRIBLE DEAL THAT, UH, Y'ALL HAD TO ENDURE. 
          AND I THINK THE CITY FAILED IN THEIR PROCESS TO GET IT OUT OF THERE QUICK ENOUGH. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, SO Y'ALL HAVE HAD, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN HARMED. 
          UH, THERE'S NO CONCERN ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, THEY'RE VALID CONCERNS AND THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          UM, I THINK THE SOLUTION HAS TO BE EQUITABLE AND IT HAS TO PROTECT ALL PROPERTY RIGHTS, BOTH THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL EQUALLY. 
          UH, I FEEL THERE'S BEEN A FLAWED PROCESS HERE THAT'S GONNA HARM ONE GROUP TO BENEFIT ANOTHER. 
          UH, THERE ARE PROCEDURAL FAILURE FAILURES THAT I CAN SEE. 
          UH, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS WERE EXCLUDED FROM ANY DISCUSSIONS OF ALL THIS. 
          THIS DISCUSSIONS PRIOR TO JULY HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR, SINCE 2024. 
          UH, THEY WERE NOT BROUGHT INTO THIS, THEY'RE NOT, WEREN'T BROUGHT IN AS BOARD MEMBERS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WHO HAS, UH, PURSUED THEIR DESIRES, WHICH I UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN NO, UM, SEPARATE ANALYSIS OF ALL THE 60 BUSINESSES TO REALLY DETERMINE WHAT ARE THEY ALL DOING. 
          AND IS C TWO CONDITIONAL USE GONNA WORK FOR THEM? I MEAN, OTHERWISE, LIKE, WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS THEY MAY BE OUTTA BUSINESS AT SOME POINT. 
          UH, I HAVE NOT SEEN AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE BUYERS DON'T PAY THE SAME FOR RESTRICTED PROPERTIES. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE APPRAISALS THAT WILL DECLINE, PROPERTY'S HARDER TO SELL. 
          NO STUDY WAS DONE ON THAT IS TO IMPACT TO TAX. 
          UH, AND ULTIMATELY THIS HAS BEEN A POLITICAL MOTIVATION. 
          AGAIN, THE, THE NEIGHBORS WANT SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROTECT THEMSELVES, AND THAT'S FULLY UNDERSTOOD. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK STAFF WOULD'VE PURSUED THIS WITHOUT THE POLITICAL PRESSURE TO DO SO. 
          THIS HAS BEEN MORE POLITICS THAN PLANNING IN THIS CASE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT CHOOSING SIDES. 
          AND LIKE COMMISSIONER KELLY SAID, WE NEED TO FIND AN EQUITABLE SOLUTION THAT PROTECTS ALL THE PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          UM, SO WHAT I WOULD PREFER TO SEE IS NOT A VOTE UP OR DOWN TODAY, BUT IS A VOTE TO POSTPONE. 
          I'D PREFER SIX MONTHS TO REALLY GET THE TIME FRAME FOR THE STAFF TO WORK WITH ALL THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND FOR EVERYBODY TO SIT DOWN AND COME UP WITH A, A REAL PLAN OUT HERE, RATHER THAN JUST A DROP IT ON THERE TYPE OF DEAL. 
          SO MY, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO POSTPONE FOR, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL MONTHS WHILE NEGOTIATIONS GO ON AND EFFORTS ARE MADE TO RESOLVE DIFFERENCES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. 
          WHAT'S IT? COMMISSIONER KELLUM. 
          UH, CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION. 
          SO YOU, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES AND HOW YOU CREATE THOSE FLEXIBILITIES. 
          YES. 
          HOW WOULD WE DO THAT IN THAT, THIS PROCESS? I AM GOING TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AT THE END OF MY DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH CAN BE ACCEPTED OR NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, AND HOPING THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION THAT I'M THINKING. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT PEOPLE DESERVE TO HAVE A VERY SAFE PLACE TO LIVE AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND WHERE THEY'RE AT. 
          I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE SUPPORTED, YOU KNOW, TAX INCOME TO THE CITY, ALSO HAVE A CONSIDERATION WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          TO ME, THE 
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WAY THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE IS OCCURRING, I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME PROCESS CHANGES THAT PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          BUT AT THE HEART OF THE MATTER, I THINK WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WANTING IS ABSOLUTELY VALID. 
          AND I THINK WE COULD MOVE FORWARD FROM THAT STANDPOINT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF, OF SOME OF THE INDUSTRY. 
          AND SO MY, MY INCLINATION IS TO, TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION, HOPEFULLY WITH SOME OF THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS THAT MAY BE COMING DOWN THE WAY. 
          BUT I THINK IN THE END, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB. 
          AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR PRIDE AND YOUR, YOUR FIGHT FOR WHERE YOU LIVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 
          WE'RE IN FOR A LONG MEETING AND IF WE COULD JUST KEEP THE APPLAUSE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, I'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          UH, BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE, WE DON'T END WHEN YOUR CASE IS OVER. 
          . 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA TO YOU. 
          SIX MINUTES. 
          YES. 
          A COUPLE THINGS. 
          UH, JUST TO RE-CLARIFY FOR THE AUDIENCE. 
          DON'T FORGET, WE ARE JUST A RECOMMENDING BODY. 
          SO, UH, THAT BEING SAID, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, UH, MOTION SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS APPROVED. 
          BECAUSE FOR ME, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS KIND OF A, A RESIDENCE KIND OF A, VERSUS THE BUSINESS. 
          AND I ALWAYS CHOOSE RESIDENCE 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE LIVE. 
          UM, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT DON'T STOP COMING OUT. 
          I MEAN, SOMETIMES THE, THE, THE NOTION WAS THE EAST SIDE DON'T SHOW UP. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE HERE. 
          SO KEEP IT UP THOUGH, ALL THE WAY TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS, I THINK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE, UH, THE SCHOOLS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I WAS A TEACHER FOR 20 YEARS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, SAM IS ALWAYS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH, WITH NUMBERS AND STUFF. 
          WE WANT OUR KIDS WHO ARE GONNA GRADUATE FROM S-E-I-S-D OR IDEA OR ESSENCE OR WHATEVER SCHOOL THERE IS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO STAY IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND A LOT DON'T BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA STAY AND GET THEIR CARS DIRTY AND, AND LIVE IN THAT, IN THAT MUCK, RIGHT? I COULD USED A DIFFERENT WORD, BUT IT'S BEING TELEVISED. 
          UM, SO WE WANT THEM TO COME BACK. 
          UH, AS YOU KNOW, I'M VERY PASSIONATE FOR THE EAST SIDE. 
          I WAS BORN THERE. 
          I LIVED ON HALEY AND YUCCA WAS BORN OVER THERE ON AMANDA AND MLK. 
          UH, THAT'S WHERE MY PARENTS PARENTS GREW UP. 
          MY MOM WENT TO TO HARLANDALE, SO I KIND OF, THEY KIND OF MET IN THE MIDDLE. 
          AND WE LIVE ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE AND I REPRESENT DISTRICT THREE. 
          HOWEVER, I'M JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF RIGSBY ICE. 
          UM, SO WE, IT IT'S SO IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S SO IMPORTANT. 
          UH, PLUS I LIKE TO EAT AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD FOOD OUT THERE, RIGHT? WE GOTTA KEEP TONY G AND, AND, UH, LONG TH AND, AND, UH, LORD'S KITCHEN. 
          ALL, ALL, ALL GOOD TO GO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE EAST SIDE, IT'S NOT A WASTE AREA. 
          IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE FORGOTTEN. 
          UM, ANY AREA, BUT ESPECIALLY THE EAST SIDE, WE'RE NOT THE OUTSKIRTS ANYMORE. 
          THAT'S WAY UP THERE. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY NOW THAT WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT AN AREA TO HAVE ALL OF THIS, UH, SOMEBODY, THE BUSINESS, UH, OWNER, WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE. 
          OUR BUSINESSES, ONE PERSON SAID THAT, BUT HE'S GONNA SUE ALL OF US OR SOMETHING. 
          I DUNNO, THERE WAS SOME KIND OF WEIRD COMMENT MADE OUT. 
          UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VIOLATING SOMETHING. 
          I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T SIT RIGHT WITH ME. 
          UH, I THINK, I THINK THAT THE SIDE IS NOT A WASTE AREA OR THE SOUTH SIDE IS A WASTE AREA. 
          WE HAVE SO MUCH TECHNOLOGY, LIKE I SAID, NOW THAT WE COULD FIGURE AN AREA TO HAVE ALL OF THIS. 
          IF THAT MEANS WE GOTTA PAY A LITTLE EXTRA FOR TRANSPORTATION OR FOR OUR PRODUCTS, TWO OR THREE BUCKS COMPARED TO OUR FAMILY BREATHING HEALTHY AIR, DRINKING BETTER WATER, I'LL DO IT. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK WE'LL ALL DO IT. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS ABOUT WHERE WE LIVE AND IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND I, UH, YIELD HAVE MY TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. UH, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA. 
          COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. 
          FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF, UH, FOR DOING A GREAT JOB, UH, FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP. 
          IT REALLY MEANS A LOT. 
          IT SHOWS THAT YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY, ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND I DO SUPPORT YOU. 
          BUT WITH THAT SAID, I'M A PERSON ABOUT FAIRNESS. 
          AND THERE ARE A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE NOT IN THE HEAVY INDUSTRY THAT THIS IS, THIS CHANGE IS GONNA AFFECT. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, UH, MR. RODDY WITH HIS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE KOC, THE CAMPING, UH, THAT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU ALL, I DON'T THINK. 
          AND, AND IT'S GONNA AFFECT HIM. 
          ALSO, THE TRUCKING, UH, FOR THE SHIPPING WITH THAT OTHER GENTLEMAN, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME. 
          UM, I, IT IT'S GONNA AFFECT HIM. 
          AND THE CHANGE IS GOING, IT IS GONNA EITHER PUT HIM OUTTA BUSINESS OR HURT HIM. 
          UH, ALSO GOING BACK TO, UH, IF THIS DOES CHANGE AND, AND PUTS MR. RODDY OUTTA BUSINESS, LIKE HE SAID EARLIER, YOU BETTER BE PREPARED TO HAVE 45, 4600 HOMES IF HE DOES SELL AND TO, YOU KNOW, TO A DEVELOPER. 
          SO, BUT I DO SUPPORT Y'ALL. 
          BUT AT THIS TIME, I, I DO AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A CONTINUANCE. 
          WE SHOULD WAIT AND, UH, SO THAT EVERYBODY 
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GETS, UH, UH, WHAT THEY WANT. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 50 YEARS, THANK YOU. 
          NO, SORRY. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          AND AGAIN, I ECHO MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. 
          THANKS FOR YOU FOLKS COMING HERE TODAY. 
          UM, IT'S KIND OF A PAIN TO COME DOWN HERE AND SIT THROUGH THIS LONG HEARING NOW. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU FOLKS BOUGHT YOUR HOMES BACK IN THE SIXTIES, YOU DIDN'T EXPECT TO BUY A HOME TO BE ACROSS FROM AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. 
          I GET THAT. 
          AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WHICHEVER GOVERNMENTAL UNIT REPRESENTED YOU FAILED YOU. 
          YES. 
          NOW THEN WE HAVE, UH, INDUSTRIAL FOLKS COMING IN, BEING YOUR NEIGHBORS. 
          SOME OF THEM ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT AS GOOD, RIGHT? SO HERE WE ARE 60 YEARS LATER AND WE'RE TRYING TO UNRAVEL THIS KNOT THAT WE'VE TIED OURSELVES INTO. 
          AND FRANKLY, THE ONE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ALL DAY, AND IT'S BEEN KIND OF STUCK MY MIND IS HUMAN RELATIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, AND ALSO WHAT IS FAIR, RIGHT? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE LIVED OUT THERE AND IT IS PROBABLY SO UNFAIR THAT YOU FEEL THAT WAY. 
          BUT ALSO TOO IS THAT THROUGH THE EVOLUTION OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU HAVE BUSINESSES THAT CAME IN THERE AND THEY ARE PART OF YOUR NEIGHBORS. 
          SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHAT GENTLEMAN SAID ABOUT HUMAN RELATIONS, RIGHT? WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS IT THAT WE WANT AND ALSO WHAT OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS WANT. 
          AND THEN COMMISSIONER KELLY SAID, COMPROMISE. 
          YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD COMPROMISE A LOT OF TIMES AND I HAVE, AND I BELIEVE COMPROMISE TO ME MEANS THAT THE PARTIES WALK AWAY LESS UPSET BECAUSE IF YOU COMPROMISE, YOUR NEITHER PARTY IS GONNA GET EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. 
          NOW YOU SAW WHAT CHAIR BUSTAMANTE DID WITH A COUPLE OF THE LANDOWNERS, AND I'M ASKING MYSELF IF HE'S ABLE TO DO THAT, WHY AREN'T WE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE OTHER LANDOWNERS? AND I KNOW THAT, YEAH, I MEAN, THERE IS A LONG TIME. 
          IT COULD TAKE A LONG TIME. 
          BUT MY FRIEND, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME, AND IF WE HAVE TO WAIT FOUR MORE WEEKS, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, UM, AND I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER KELLY WAS IT, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN COMMISSIONER KELLY THAT, OR IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WHIT SAID THAT SUGGESTED THAT WE HAVE A CONTINUANCE AND I WOULD SUPPORT A CONTINUANCE. 
          NOT MONTHS, BUT POSSIBLY FOUR WEEKS. 
          BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT BUSINESSES, THEY NEED TO MAKE A LIVING TOO. 
          SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE. 
          YES. 
          UM, I ALSO WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT, ESPECIALLY THE RESIDENTS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I GREW UP ON THE DEEP WET SIDE ORIGINALLY, AND NOW I'M KIND OF NORTHWEST SIDE. 
          BUT I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE, THE WEST SIDE HAS A LOT OF THE SAME DISENFRANCHISED, UM, PROBLEMS THAT THE EAST SIDE HAS, WHERE FOR MANY YEARS, ZONING DID IMPACT US IN A VERY NEGATIVE WAY. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND, UM, WHEN YOU SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT CLEAN AIR, YOU WANT, UM, PLAYGROUNDS WHERE YOUR KIDS CAN PLAY WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, DUST FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. 
          SO, UM, I COMPLETELY, UH, EMPATHIZE WITH ALL THOSE CONCERNS AND I, I SUPPORT THAT COMPLETELY. 
          UH, HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO ALSO, UM, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE BUSINESSES WHO ARE ACTING IN GOOD FAITH AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, CAME HERE TODAY TO EXPLAIN THAT THE ZONING THAT THEY ARE BEING, UH, THAT, THAT THEY ARE, UH, PROPOSED TO CHANGE TO DOESN'T QUITE FIT EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED. 
          UM, AND I'M INTERESTED IN TO SEE WHAT, UH, CHAIR BUS IS GONNA PROPOSE, BUT RIGHT NOW I'M ON THE, ON THE POST, UH, NOT POSTPONED, BUT THE, UM, UH, CONTINUATION, UM, NOT FOUR MONTHS, BUT AGAIN, UH, MAYBE FOUR WEEKS OR SO TO GIVE THE BUSINESSES THE TIME TO MEET WITH STAFF AND, AND FIT INDIVIDUALLY WHAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR BUSINESSES TO CONTINUE TO WORK. 
          BECAUSE ALSO, AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I UNDERSTAND 
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THAT COMMUNITIES ARE, THEY DEPEND ON BUSINESS TOO. 
          SO, UM, FAIRNESS AND, AND COMING TO A REALIZATION WHERE BOTH OF YOU CAN LIVE HAPPILY, WE CAN GET THAT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL OUT TO WHERE YOU ARE LIVING IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS SAFE, BUT ALSO YOUR, UM, OTHER BUSINESSES CAN BENEFIT, EXPAND, AND CONTINUE TO OPERATE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHASE. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          UM, THE ONE THING THAT REALLY DID STRIKE ME AS WELL WAS THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE NEIGHBORLY. 
          UH, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR, UH, THAT THE RODEO WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS, THAT Y'ALL DID GOOD OUTREACH WITH THEM. 
          UM, BECAUSE IN THIS CASE, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, ALL BOATS WILL RISE WITH THE TIDE. 
          I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MR. FARMER, FOR YOU, I THINK THAT C TWO CD PULLING DOWN AN I ONE USE IS THE BEST WE CAN DO FOR YOU. 
          UH, MR. ABLOY, I THINK THAT L WHICH YOU'RE GETTING SHOULD ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT. 
          NOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, GO BOTHER THEM. 
          UH,  GO BOTHER, UH, MR. WILSON AND MS. AL AND TALK TO THEM TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THAT. 
          MR. RODIE, YOU'RE IN A REALLY UNIQUE POSITION. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN NECESSARILY FIX THAT. 
          UH, AND SO I THINK IN THAT CASE, IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF FIGURING OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE YOUR PROPERTY BEST FOR YOU. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING. 
          IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE 2,500 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, BUT IT MIGHT BE 2000. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, NEW NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT I HEARD TODAY ALSO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IS THAT THERE WAS MULTI-GENERATIONAL FAMILIES HERE. 
          UH, WHEN WE HAVE FAMILIES THAT ARE LIVING IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND COMING BACK TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT'S WHAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY VIBRANT. 
          THAT'S WHAT MAKES US SUCCESSFUL. 
          THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, TO COMMISSIONER HENO H'S POINT KEEPS SCHOOLS OPEN. 
          SO I AM INCLINED, ARE YOU SIGNALING TO ME, WHAT, WHAT DID I DO? OKAY. 
          UH, I AM INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS, UH, MOTION, BUT I WANNA MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. 
          AND FOR THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT, UH, I DIDN'T GET THE TIME TO ASK ABOUT, UH, THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD HOOK FOR Y'ALL TO ASK FOR SOMETHING ELSE. 
          YOU KNOW, AGAIN, EVERYONE AGREES. 
          I TOO IS INAPPROPRIATE. 
          EVERYONE, NO ONE'S DOING IT THERE. 
          SO LET'S NOT EVEN PRETEND THAT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO STILL BE ON THE TABLE. 
          BUT MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO MAKE 6 39 GIBBLER. 
          UH, 10 15 PAULSON. 
          10 11 PAULSON. 
          1102 PAULSON. 
          10 14 PAULSON, 10 0 6 PAULSON, 10 0 2 PAULSON, 9 1 4 PAULSON, 10 39, BRUSSELS 10 31, BRUSSELS 10 47. 
          BRUSSELS L AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER LO, IT'S UP TO YOU. 
          FIRST , UH, FOR MR. WILSON. 
          YEAH, I, I JUST, IF I CAN CHIME IN REAL QUICK ON THE, I I THE CONSIDERATION OF A CONTINUANCE, UM, WHILE, WHILE STAFF WOULD, I'M GONNA STOP YOU. 
          UH, THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION CURRENTLY HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S NOT GERMANE. 
          SO THERE WE GO. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. LO. 
          SORRY. 
          IF YOU WERE HOPING HE WOULD BUY YOU TIME, I CAN HAVE HIM SING . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH, I WAS, I WAS GONNA ASK FOR CLARITY. 
          SO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS TO APPROVE ALL OTHER PROPOSED, LIKE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, TAKE OUT THOSE AND CHANGE THEM TO LIGHT, CORRECT. 
          WHERE THEY ALL PROPOSED C TWO C TWO CD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT WAS, I ASSUME THE 10 PROPERTIES FROM MR. CHRISTENSEN. 
          THOSE WERE THE 10 PROPERTIES OF MR. PEACOCK. 
          WHAT DO YOU GOT? SORRY, BRIEFLY. 
          11. 
          11 PAULSON RONALD MCDONALD WITH JIM BROWN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I WOULD ADD 11. 
          11 PAULSON. 
          SORRY MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A YEAH. 
          QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          YES. 
          IS THERE A WAY, JUST FOR FAIRNESS, UH, SO I CAN ENTERTAIN THIS. 
          THERE, THERE ARE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          COULD THERE BE, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, COULD THERE BE SOME SORT OF AMENDMENT THAT KIND OF, BECAUSE THERE'LL BE SOME TIME BETWEEN OUR VOTE AND TO, AGAINST THE CITY CONFLICT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? OKAY. 
          I DO. 
          SO SORRY, COMMISSIONER LASSO STILL TO YOU. 
          BUT BRIEFLY, HERE'S MY THOUGHT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES WHERE I THINK L IS APPROPRIATE. 
          L HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED IN SOME SPOTS, INCLUDING SPOTS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THOSE PAULSON ADDRESSES THAT I JUST LISTED. 
          UM, 
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YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WAY TO POTENTIALLY AVOID A CONTINUANCE, UH, TO KEEP IN LINE WITH OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE STAFF. 
          AND IF, UH, OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS CAN GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND CONVINCE THEM TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, GOD BLESS 'EM. 
          GO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH, I ACTUALLY WAS GONNA SAY BEFORE THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, BUT NOW IT'S VERY RELEVANT. 
          UM, I KNOW I, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID WE'RE RECOMMENDING BODY AND WE ARE, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO, UM, WANT A SPECIFIC CHANGE TO REACH OUT TO D TWO STAFF. 
          I'VE TALKED TO THEM A LOT. 
          THEY'RE VERY AVAILABLE. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF ABILITY TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH DSD STAFF, BUT ALSO D TWO STAFF. 
          I KNOW DENISE IS HERE IF YOU WANNA TALK TO HER, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WOULD TALK ABOUT THIS, UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. 
          I AC I ACCEPT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES, ACCEPT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YES, COMMISSIONER, UH, MR. WILSON. 
          UH, I BELIEVE, UH, WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THE PROPERTY AT 6 3 9 GAMBLER WOULD NEED, UH, L WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING. 
          WELL, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          OVER OVERSIZED VEHICLE. 
          IT'S A MESS. 
          IT'S STILL A MESS. 
          WE DON'T WANT MOBILE HOMES IN OUR AREA. 
          UH, OKAY, HOLD ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, LEMME, LEMME CLARIFY. 
          I DID NOT MANUFACTURE HOUSING, THE OVERSIZED VEHICLE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SERVICES. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO AMEND MY AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE, UH, ON 6 39 GAMBLER L WITH SPECIFIC USE FOR OVERSIGHTS VEHICLE STORAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU ACCEPT? YES, I ACCEPT. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER SIPES ACCEPT? YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ALRIGHT. 
          SO NOW SECOND ROUND FOUR MINUTES. 
          COMMISSIONER LOAF. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY. 
          COMMISSIONER SUP I WON'T TAKE FOUR MINUTES, BUT, UH, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IN THE PAST WITH PEOPLE WHO COME BEFORE US WANTING REZONINGS, IF THERE'S STILL LOTS OF QUESTIONS WITH EVERYTHING, WE SEND THEM BACK AND SAY, Y'ALL GO BACK AND WORK SOMETHING OUT AND COME BACK TO US. 
          SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE THERE AT THIS POINT. 
          THERE'S BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS, BUT THERE'S STILL PARTIES THAT NEED TO BE ENGAGED, THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CLEARLY, UH, WORKED OUT. 
          I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LACK OF JUST REAL DETAIL IN THIS. 
          IT'S BEEN LIKE WE'RE JUST GONNA DOWN ZONE IT AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT FOR IT. 
          I WOULD RATHER STILL SEE THE NEIGHBORS SPEND SOME TIME WITH, UH, STAFF AND WITH THE COM BUSINESS OWNERS AND COME BACK TO US WITH SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN LIVE WITH THAT UH, AS WE DO, WE SAY GO BACK TO THE TABLE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THE SOLUTION IS THERE YET, BUT I FULLY AGREE WITH WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO OF GET RID OF SOME I TWO ZONING AND GET RID OF NOXIOUS ISSUES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHIT. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLUM DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY, COMMISSIONER SIPES? UH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD, I WOULD ADD IS, UM, UH, WITH, WITH, WITH THESE CHANGES, UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE NEIGHBORS TO, BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, IS TO, TO DOWNLOAD THE, THE PACKAGE AND, AND TO ACTUALLY SEE WHAT ACTUALLY HAS, HAS CHANGED AND, AND SO THAT Y'ALL CAN BE INFORMED AS WELL WHEN IT C WHEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER SIPES. 
          COMMISSIONER HENO, HOSA. 
          UH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SO IF THIS PASSES, OF COURSE THEY HAVE, THEY THE COMMUNITY, THEY HAVE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL TO GET WITH THEIR CON CONGRESS PERSON, CONGRESS PERSON, EXCUSE ME, CON COUNCIL PERSON TO WORK OUT SOME OF THAT. 
          SO THEY DON'T WANT MOBILE HOMES OR THEY DON'T WANT SPECIFIC USE THEY GET WITH THEM. 
          THEN THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY CAN ADJUST THE AMENDMENT. 
          Y'ALL GOT THAT? ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA. 
          COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. 
          NO QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY, I, I SPACED OUT THERE FOR A SECOND. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER CHASE, NO QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          SO MY FINAL POINTS, UH, PART OF THE REASON WHY I PICKED L WAS BECAUSE IT DOES GET RID OF THE I ONE AND I TWO. 
          THE L IS LOCATED EITHER ADJACENT TO, OR A BUDDING OTHER L IS IN KIND OF THE MIDDLE OF THESE AREAS. 
          SO WE HAVE KIND OF THE GRADIENT, IF YOU WILL, THAT WE EXPECT FROM GOOD ZONING AND PLANNING. 
          AND SO MY HOPE IS THAT THIS IS THE KIND OF, UH, SOLUTION WHERE WE DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING WE WANTED, BUT WE GOT PRETTY CLOSE AND I TWO AND 
          [03:45:01]
I ONE IS NOT ALLOWED HERE EXCEPT AS CONDITIONAL USES FOR C TWO. 
          UM, SO EXCEPT FOR MR. RODDY, HE'S, HE'S JUST THE ODD DUCK HERE. 
          UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED AS READ ON THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER LO. 
          SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. 
          ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER LO? YES. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER PIE RODRIGUEZ? NO. 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY? NO. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S UP? NO. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE? NO. 
          CHAIR. 
          BUSANTE. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 
          UM, YOUR NEXT STEP IS CITY COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS A RECOMMENDING BODY SO YOU CAN TALK TO THEM. 
          FOR THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE WORRIED, GO TALK TO THE STAFF. 
          GOOD LUCK. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WHAT? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SIPES, ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE? SO FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER SIPES IS LEAVING THE MEETING AT 4 59. 
          UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GONNA STAND IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES. 
          THE TIME IS 4 59 . 
          SO SIX. 
          THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS BACK IN SESSION. 
          WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS LOCATED AT 4 0 1 6 CULEBRA ROAD GOING FROM MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT TO C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. 
          THERE WERE 34 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. 
          COBRA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT OF C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT. 
          THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. 
          SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, AND R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A DUPLEX. 
          THE EXISTING MF 33 DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. 
          THE PROPOSED C TWO DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE. 
          THE REQUEST TO REZONE IS TO PERMIT PROFESSIONAL OFFICES. 
          STAFF HAS CONCERNS THAT THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL ZONE IS INAPPROPRIATELY LOCATED WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, INCREASING THE POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT. 
          ALTERNATIVELY, THE REQUEST CAN BE ACCOMMODATED BY KEEPING THE BASE ZONE MF 33 WHILE CONDITIONING DOWN THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. 
          USE LIMITING FUTURE ENCROACHMENT STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF MF 33 CD MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. 
          AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE AND IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US YOUR ADDRESS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF YOU COULD NO PRESSURE. 
          KEEP IT BRIEF. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          MY NAME IS JOAQUIN ROMO. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY, BUT, OKAY. 
          I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, UH, LOCATED IN 4 0 1 6 CULEBRA ROAD. 
          THE REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE I'M PETITIONING FOR A CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I PETITION FOR ZONE FROM ZONE TWO TO UH, C ONE. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M PROPOSING THIS BECAUSE, UH, MR. ROMO WISHES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, TO LOOK BETTER. 
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UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, HAPPENS IS THAT THERE'S GARBAGE. 
          I SAW ON THE, ON THE SCREEN THERE'S A MATTRESS AND, UH, MR. DROMO GOES BY AND, UH, PICKS UP ALL THE GARBAGE, UH, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          ASSOCI. 
          SO, MR. MR. ROMO HAS BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND HE AND HE WISHES TO DO, UH, FOR OFFICES. 
          UM, MR. GMO'S DESIRE IS TO, TO DO SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS ATTRACTIVE, UM, AS REQUIRED TO COMPLY AS REQUIRED. 
          HE DID NOT BRING A PLAN BECAUSE HE'S WAITING FOR THE, THE ZONING. 
          UH, SO I'M HERE, UH, ASKING FOR YOUR HELP AND IT'S SOMETHING GOOD AND BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THIS IS THE DISTRICT 5K. 
          SO IT IS TO ME FOR QUESTIONS. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA RUN TIMERS 'CAUSE WE'RE RUNNING UP AGAINST THE TIME LIMITS. 
          WE'VE MADE TERRIBLE MISTAKES. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          UH, OH, LET ME ALSO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT AT 5 0 9 COMMISSIONER WOODS SET LEFT THE MEETING. 
          UM, STAFF. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          HE'S REQUESTING C TWO. 
          YOU HAVE MADE AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF MF 33 WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THAT WOULD ALLOW HIM TO DO THE FOUR OFFICES HE SEEKS. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT HE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SITE PLAN. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          HE DOES NOT HAVE A SITE PLAN. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, OKAY, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT. 
          QUESTIONS, REMOTE QUESTIONS. 
          UM, UH, MR. ROMO QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          OH, WE NEED THE NO INTERPRETER. 
          MR. ROMO. 
          UHHUH? NO. 
          SO MR. ROMO, UM, DO YOU WANT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT A SITE PLAN IS? UHHUH? UM, SO THIS IS GONNA LARGELY BE UP TO YOU. 
          UM, I'M SORRY. 
          WELL ACTUALLY LET ME ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION. 
          STAFF, HE CAN COME UP WITH A SITE PLAN IF WE GO FORWARD BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? WELL, SO IF WE WERE TO RECOMMEND THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, HE COULD CREATE THE SITE PLAN BEFORE, WE WOULD PREFER THAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY REVIEW THAT SITE PLAN BEFORE IT PROCEEDS TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          I KNOW WHAT YOU'D PREFER, BUT HERE WE ARE. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO, UM, , GIVEN THE RESIDENTIAL USES, EVEN MULTIFAMILY, ALRIGHT, AM I GETTING CITY COUNCIL ADVICE TELLING ME I CAN'T DO IT? CORRECT. 
          IF YOU'RE TO RECOMMEND ON THAT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE, YOU MUST HAVE A SITE PLAN TO REVIEW OR A SITE PLAN MUST BE REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED BY YOU GUYS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, I'M SORRY MR. ROMO. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. 
          UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO AND, UM, YOU NEED TO CALL ME OR HAVE THE, UH, 
          [03:55:01]
CASE MANAGER CALL ME, GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE UH, IF WE CAN DO A SITE PLAN AND, AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          OKAY? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO I MOVE FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE, I THOUGHT WE WERE IN AGREEMENT HERE AND I THOUGHT WE HAD A SITE PLAN, OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T HAVE MADE YOU STICK AROUND FOR THREE HOURS. 
          NO, NO. 
          FOUR HOURS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO , UM, ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT FOR TWO WEEKS UNTIL AUGUST 21ST. 
          I'M SORRY, OCTOBER 21ST. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE. 
          LOOKING RIGHT. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, ROLL CALL. 
          VOTE MOTIONS FOR CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 21ST. 
          CHAIR BUSMAN. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER EF? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER NOOSA. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. 
          MOTION CARRIES WELL. 
          DANG IT. 
          ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 10. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          BROWN BRONTE FRE ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          ITEM NUMBER 10 IS LOCATED AT 28 30 RIGSBY AVENUE GOING FROM C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR CAR WASH TO C3. 
          ALL OVERLAYS REMAIN THE SAME. 
          NINE NOTICES WERE SENT, ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. 
          THE EXISTING C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SURROUNDING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. 
          THE PROPOSED C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PART OF AN ESSAY TOMORROW. 
          COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN RECENTLY ADOPTED BY THE CITY AND DESIGNATED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE WHICH PERMITS C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AS THE HIGHEST INTENSITY. 
          THE REQUEST TO C3 WOULD INTRODUCE MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES THAN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN NEAR RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE AND IF YOU WOULD SIR, TELL US YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR REQUEST. 
          HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS KEVIN ASLU. 
          OH, THERE WE GO. 
           24 6 1 7 BOOGIE RIDGE. 
          AND UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A CAR WASH HERE WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO DO A WAREHOUSE OFFICE. 
          I DID UH, PROVIDED UM, A 3D PLAN OF HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE IF SHE'S GONNA BRING IT UP, THEN YOU GOTTA TAKE A LOOK AT IT. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S GONNA BE TECHNICALLY OFFICE WAREHOUSE KIND OF THING. 
          AND SO, UM, WHICH IS A LOT BETTER LOOKING THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY,  AND UM, WITH ALL THE HOMELESS HANGING OUT OVER THERE AND UNFORTUNATELY ANY CAR WASH THAT IS BAY, YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT THAT IT'S GONNA BE SUITE NUMBER ONE, SUITE NUMBER TWO AND ALL THE WAY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE OF THE PROBLEM WE HAD AND WE FENCED IT ALREADY. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF PRO UH, PREVENTING FROM PEOPLE TO COMING IN AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS WE HAVE EVERYTHING APPROVED, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP MYSELF AND I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY LOOK AT THINGS BECAUSE I'M, I DON'T WORK HERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, BUT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THERE'S AN I ONE, WE HAVE C3 C3 C3 C3 C3 C3 AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF C THREES, UM, YOU KNOW, ROCK. 
          I THINK IT'S, THAT'S FOR DISTRICT TWO 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. 
          WHICH, UM, I DID SEND UH, THEM AN EMAIL, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINING WHAT WE ARE DOING. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING BACK, I GUESS JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO OPPOSITION, BUT I'M NOT TOO SURE . 
          AND THEN, SO WE DID TALK TO DISTRICT THREE, UM, EXPLAIN EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE WITH CHRIS AND UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, HERE WE ARE. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          YES, THANK YOU SIR. 
          IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE TO YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA FOR QUESTIONS STAFF REAL QUICK. 
          UM, I, I KNOW TWO THINGS. 
          ONE ON HERE IT STATES FOR A CAR WASH, BUT HE'S OBVIOUSLY NOT GONNA HAVE A CAR WASH. 
          DOES THAT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED OR AMENDED? 
          [04:00:01]
THAT IS THE, UM, EXISTING. 
          EXISTING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SECOND THING IS, UM, I KNOW HE, THE APPLICANT IS REALLY SET ON C3. 
          CAN YOU GIVE, UH, UH, CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE EXPLANATION ON WHY C ONE IN BECAUSE OF THE REZONING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AREA? SO THE REASON WHY THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS PART OF THE EAST SIDE, UM, SORRY, IT IS PART OF THE SOUTHEAST, UM, LAND USE PLAN THAT WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED, I WANNA SAY ONLY ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO AGO. 
          AND THEY'VE DESIGNATED THIS AREA, UM, AS NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE. 
          AND SO BASICALLY THEY WANTED THIS PROPERTY TO BE, AGAIN, MIXED USES THAT ARE MORE, UH, THAT ALIGN WITH MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD ONLY PERMIT UP TO LIKE THE HIGHEST OF A C ONE BASE ZONING. 
          AND SO THAT IS WHY STAFF IS RECOMMEND AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS THE I ONE AND THE C3 ACROSS THE STREET. 
          BUT UM, AGAIN, THIS PLAN DESIGN BASICALLY IS WHAT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THEY WANT THIS AREA TO BE MORE OF THE LOWER INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES. 
          GOT IT. 
          LAST QUESTION. 
          UH, WOULD THERE BE ANY ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU GUYS COULD, WE BASICALLY COULDN'T DO AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD IT, IT WOULD, I MEANT HE'S GONNA GET A, HE'S GOING FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT WHICH WE ARE RECOMMENDING DENIAL ON, BUT BASICALLY HE'S GOING FROM A C TWO S TO A C3 AND WE CAN'T RECOMMEND SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THAT INTENSITY. 
          SO I'M ASSUMING, I KNOW, I KNOW I SAID LAST QUESTION LIKE TWO QUESTIONS AGO. 
          SO, BUT THE, BASICALLY IT NEEDS TO BE A C ONE BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MIXED USE THAT AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT ALIGNS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE FOR THAT PLAN. 
          SO THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WAS ADOPTED AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT WE'RE JUST A RE WE'RE RECOMMENDATION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          ARE YOU, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED BUT I MEAN THIS PROBABLY COULD BE FOR THE HUNDRED YEAR PLAN  BECAUSE THIS IS NOWHERE TO BE, UH, THAT MIXED NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I MEAN I, I, I OWN THREE PROPERTIES OVER THERE AND UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN EVEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, C3, EVERYTHING IS TO C3. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA BRING THINGS DOWN TO C ONE OVER THERE AND I MEAN UNDERSTAND THE, THE FUTURE PLAN OF SAN ANTONIO BUT UM, I MEAN IT'S NOT GONNA BENEFIT ANYTHING GOING FROM C TWO WHAT YOU ARE TO A C ONE TO KIND OF EVEN LIMIT YOURSELF EVEN MORE. 
          UM, I MEAN IF, IF THAT'S WHAT THEIR PLAN IS. 
          'CAUSE IF I WAS GONNA PUT ANY KIND OF CD TO A C TWO WOULD BE AUTOMOTIVE CELLS AND UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING AGAINST THEIR  AND I'M ASSUMING THE CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO CELLS IS ALSO GONNA BE DENIED BY THE CITY. 
          AGAIN, WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ANYTHING C TWO 'CAUSE IT WOULD NOT ALIGN WITH THE SA TOMORROW PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I THINK THE BEST BET, UH, WOULD PROBABLY BE A CONTINUANCE. 
          SO WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE, KIND OF GET THINGS GOING, SEE WHERE YOU STAND, THEN GO FROM THERE. 
          THAT, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          ALRIGHT, IN LIGHT OF THAT QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT. 
          SEEING NONE? YEP. 
          WAIT. 
          OKAY. 
          , IT'S A RESPONSE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IT'S A RESPONSE TO THE OWNER. 
          YEAH. 
          PART OF THE A HUNDRED YEAR PLAN PROBABLY. 
          OH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT THE D TWO STAFFING HAS HAD SOME STAFF CHANGES SO IT'S POSSIBLE YOU, YOUR EMAIL GOT SENT AND THE ZONING POSITION IS EMPTY RIGHT NOW. 
          SO APOLOGIES WE DIDN'T SEE IT. 
          UM, I THINK CONTINUOUS SOLVES THAT ISSUE SO. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA TO YOU FOR, UH, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION JUST TO UH, POSTPONE FOR CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, UH, CONTINUE FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          POSTPONE THEM'S A DIFFERENT THING. 
          , CORRECT. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER KELLUM IS THE SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION LEFT RIGHT REMOTE. 
          ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE. 
          ITEM NUMBER 10 FOR TWO WEEKS TWO. 
          OCTOBER 21ST. 
          UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. 
          COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER LOOSA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER PIE RODRIGUEZ? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HUI. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. 
          CHAIR BUSANTE. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS. 
          UH, ITEM NUMBER 18. 
          [04:05:05]
I'M, YES, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UM, ITEM NUMBER 18 IS LOCATED AT 26 19 26 15 IN 26 0 7 NORTH ST. 
          MARY STREET AND 2 27 2 25 AND 2 21 ROSE LANE GOING FROM NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT TO IDZ ONE. 
          LIMITED INTENSITY AND FIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN NC COMMERCIAL DISTRICT COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT AND NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYS THE SAME. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          . 
          OKAY, SO THERE WERE 63 NOTICES MAILED OUT. 
          THREE IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED, ONE IN FAVOR, OUTSIDE 200 FEET. 
          TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE. 
          THIS IS A LONG ONE. 
          THE PROPOSED USE ALONG NORTH ST. 
          MARY STREETS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN BUT THE PROPOSED USE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ADDRESSED OFF OF ROSE LANE IS NOT CONSISTENT. 
          SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS AND R SIX BASE ZONE RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE AND C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL. 
          THE EXISTING R SIX NC AND RM FOUR DISTRICTS ARE APPROPRIATE ZONINGS FOR THE PROPERTIES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. 
          THE PROPOSED IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN NC A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT AND NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT ON THE PROPERTIES ADDRESSED OFF NORTH ST. 
          MARY STREET IS ALSO APPROPRIATE HOWEVER IDZS WITH USE IS PERMITTED AN NC A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT AND NON-COM COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR PARKING LOT REQUIRING DEMOLITION OF DWELLING UNITS FOR THE PROPERTIES ON ROSE. 
          ROSE LANE IS NOT APPROPRIATE. 
          THE REQUEST TO REZONE IS TO PERMIT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES AND A PARKING LOT TO ACCOMMODATE ACCOMMODATE REQUIRED PARKING. 
          ALTHOUGH THE APPLICANT PLANS TO LIMIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES ALONG NORTH ST. 
          MARY'S, THE PARKING LOT WILL FRONT ROSE LANE, A LOCAL STREET INCREASING TRAFFIC AND THE POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE IDZ ONE ZONING DESIGNATION REDUCES SETBACK AND LANDSCAPE BUS BUFFER RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE UTILIZED TO FURTHER PROTECT THE ABUT ABUTTING RESIDENCES FROM GENERAL NOISES AND VISUAL STATIC CAUSED BY COMMERCIAL USES. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR IDZ ONE LIMITED INTENSITY INFIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED AN NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT AND NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT ON 26 19 26 15 AND 26 0 7 NORTH ST. 
          MARY STREET. 
          HOWEVER, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL FOR IDZ ONE S LIMITED INTENSITY INFIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT AND NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR PARKING LOT REQUIRING DEMOLITION OF DWELLING UNITS ON 2 2 7 2 2 5 AND 2 2 1 ROSE LANE. 
          THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          ASHLEY FAIRMONT, GIL GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE. 
          I HAVE A PRESENTATION, I KNOW WE ARE SHORT ON TIME, UM, SO I WILL BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ALSO. 
          SO, UM, DO YOU WANNA SHARE INFORMATION AND THEN HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH ANYBODY AFTER THE MEETING AS WELL. 
          UM, SO HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF HEAD WALL INVESTMENTS, UM, THEY OFFICE IN THIS AREA AND FOCUS ON INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO HERE, IT'S ST. 
          MARY'S AND ROSE LANE IS THERE ARE SOME EXISTING STRUCTURES, UM, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO TURN THOSE INTO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF MY PRESENTATION OKAY. 
          UM, SO THE TWO I CAN WORK FROM THE SITE PLAN. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          SO THE TWO NORTHERN, UM, EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE BOTH CURRENTLY ZONED IN SEA WITH AN IDZ OVERLAY. 
          SO RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE ZERO PARKING REQUIREMENT. 
          UH, THE USES WE'RE PROPOSING ARE PERMITTED WITHIN, UM, THAT ZONING, BUT WE THOUGHT IT BEST TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE ZONING OF EVERYTHING AND THAT ACTUALLY BRINGS A PARKING REQUIREMENT TO THOSE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY. 
          UH, THE THIRD STRUCTURE, UH, THE FURTHEST SOUTH HERE, UM, IS CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX. 
          SO WE'D LIKE TO TAKE ALL OF THEM TO UM, IDZ ONE, LOWEST INTENSITY IDZ, WHICH DOES REQUIRE A SITE PLAN. 
          SO THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU'RE SEEING, UM, IS THE SITE PLAN AND, AND WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. 
          UM, SO THERE WE GO. 
          UM, SO THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT'S PROPOSED IDZ ONE 
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WITH NC USES AND THEN TO GO ALONG WITH THE BUSINESSES. 
          SO PROPOSED RETAIL RESTAURANT POTENTIAL ADDITION TO THAT MIDDLE STRUCTURE AND THEN COFFEE SHOP. 
          UM, TENANTS DO WANT PARKING. 
          I KNOW THERE'S CONCERN WITH THE PARKING, UM, OFF OF ROSE LANE. 
          IT'S A A A VACANT LOT CURRENTLY, UH, BUT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR THOSE BUSINESSES, UM, SO THAT THERE'S SOMEWHERE TO GO THAT IS OFF STREET. 
          UH, WHAT WE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON WAS LIMITATION ON HOURS OF OPERATION OF BUSINESSES. 
          IF THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH BARS IN THE AREA, UM, NOT THAT YOU CAN DO THAT IN NC BUT JUST TO LIMIT HOW LONG, UH, BUSINESSES CAN BE OPEN. 
          ALSO REQUIREMENTS ON, UH, NO PARKING SIGNS AND WHO CAN BE IN THE PARKING LOT, UH, SO THAT IT'S TENANTS THAT SERVE, UH, OR THAT, SORRY, EXCUSE ME, FREQUENT THE BUILDING. 
          UH, AND THEN ALSO THERE ARE ARE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND PRIVACY FENCE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT PARKING LOT AS WELL. 
          UM, THE PARKING IS ACROSS, YOU CAN'T SEE IT HERE, BUT FROM A LAW OFFICE THAT DOES HAVE A SMALL PARKING LOT ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF ROSE LANE. 
          UH, WITH THAT, I KNOW THERE, THERE ARE ARE COMMENTS AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE, BUT TRYING TO MOVE QUICKLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MS. FAIRMAN. 
          ALRIGHT, PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE'S NO VOICEMAILS, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, SPEAKERS. 
          FIRST WE HAVE MS. NANCY OLE. 
          IS SHE HERE? OH, OKAY. 
          NEXT. 
          UM, I HAVE, SORRY. 
          UM, MR. GEORGE TURNER, WE MADE IT. 
          , UH, MY NAME IS, WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO. 
          OH MY GOD, . 
          UH, MY NAME IS GEORGE GRANT TURNER. 
          I LIVE ON 4 1 8 EAST FRENCH PLACE. 
          UH, KIND OF IN THAT PHOTO A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, I'VE ONLY LIVED THERE ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW, UH, A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS. 
          UH, AND THIS IS MY SECOND HEARING. 
          SO GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. 
          UM, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO BUSINESS, UH, IN GENERAL AS LONG AS IT'S GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, NOW THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE IT WAS, IT WAS NOT GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, IT WAS PRETTY EASY. 
          UM, BUT THE, UH, FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN SEEING AND I PROBABLY JUST DIDN'T GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PARKING LOTS. 
          UH, IT'S JUST NOT WHAT THAT AREA NEEDS. 
          UH, I SEE ALL THE TIME WHEN I'M OUTSIDE, UH, GARDENING 'CAUSE I DO AND IT'S AWESOME. 
          YOU SHOULD SEE MY GARDEN. 
          IT'S DOING GREAT. 
          UM, I SEE THE, UH, THOSE TOUR BUSES JUST RIDING BY ALL THE TIME AND DURING THE DAY, THAT AREA IS JUST NOT AS BUSTLING AS IT SHOULD BE AT NIGHT. 
          OR I'M SORRY, IT'S NOT AS BUSTLING DURING THE DAY AS IT IS AT NIGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THOSE PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO SAY, HEY, LET'S, LET'S FREQUENT THIS AREA. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THE PEARL NOT TOO FAR OFF NOW ABOUT THE PARKING LOTS. 
          THEY AREN'T THE BEST, UH, PETRI DISH  FOR THE NIGHTTIME ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON AROUND THERE. 
          UH, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS HERE, MS. TINA, SHE WILL BE SURROUNDED BY THESE PARKING LOTS AND SHE HAS HAD ENOUGH, UM, VERY INTERESTING STORIES FROM, YOU KNOW, FINDING DRUGS, UH, PEOPLE ACTUALLY RUNNING ACROSS A ROOF AND EVEN WAKING UP NAKED PEOPLE IN HER UNFORTUNATELY UNLOCKED CAR. 
          UM, SO BRINGING THAT TO HER BACK FENCE. 
          NOT THE BEST. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          THANK, THANK YOU, SIR. 
          NEXT WE HAVE MR. CHARLES GRIMES. 
          CHARLES NOT HERE. 
          UM, TINA RUIZ. 
          MS. RUIZ. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SUPPOSED TO TAKE MY TIME. 
          OH, SORRY I DIDN'T TAKE YOUR TIME BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WELL, YOU CAN GIVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, BUT YOU CAN'T GIVE IT TO HIM. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          YOU WANT IT? NO, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT. 
          IT'S, BUT HE HE, HE DISCUSSED IT. 
          IT'S, YEAH, IT'S A PARKING LOT. 
          OKAY. 
          NOPE. 
          NOPE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA STOP RIGHT THERE. 
          WHO'S NEXT? THAT IS IT. 
          OH, THAT'S IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, ALL RIGHT MS. FAIRMAN, COME ON UP AND THANK YOU. 
          UM, YES, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND I THINK WE'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AFTER THE MEETING AS WELL. 
          UM, THE, THOSE THINGS THAT THEY DESCRIBED ARE NOT WHAT, YOU KNOW, HEADWALL WANTS FOR THIS PARKING LOT EITHER. 
          UM, BUT BUSINESSES LIKE THIS THAT AREN'T NIGHTTIME, IT, YOU DO WANT PEOPLE FROM THE AREA, BUT PEOPLE NECESSARILY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO WALK THERE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE IDEA WITH THE PARKING 
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IS TO PROVIDE PEOPLE TO FREQUENT THE BUSINESSES, UM, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT, DISTRICT ONE CASE. 
          UH, DR. 
          KELLUM TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS? NO SIR. 
          I'M GOOD. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE QUESTIONS MS. FERMAN, IF YOU WOULD, UM, TELL ME ABOUT THIS PARKING LOT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          IS IT A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT? SO WE'RE ASKING FOR COMMERCIAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL. 
          SO NON-COMMERCIAL MEANS YOU CAN'T CHARGE COMMERCIAL MEANS YOU CAN CHARGE, UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER PARKING LOTS IN THE AREA THAT ARE CHARGING. 
          UH, SO WE'D LIKE THAT OPTION BECAUSE MAYBE IT MIGHT ALSO HELP WITH WHO PARKS THERE, UM, AND SECURITY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR BOTH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE. 
          LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. 
          LOOKING REMOTELY. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          DR. 
          KELLUM TO YOU FOR, UH, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. 
          UM, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORS COMING IN. 
          I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH HEAD WALL INVESTMENTS. 
          I THINK THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB. 
          THIS IS, I THINK THE, THE THIRD PROJECT THAT I'VE SEEN THEM DO AND I'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH THEIR ENGAGEMENT. 
          I'M GLAD THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS, UH, GIVEN THEIR STAMP OF APPROVAL, I THINK THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB IN MANAGING BOTH THE EVOLUTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS PRESERVATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND FOR THAT REASON, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR, UH, APPROVAL. 
          ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. 
          A SECOND. 
          OH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA. 
          UH, WHAT ITEM ARE WE IN? UH, ITEM NUMBER 18, UH, DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT, TO MY RIGHT REMOTELY. 
          ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 18, UH, BY COMM DR. 
          KELLUM. 
          UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINA HOSA. 
          ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER OSA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER LOOSA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HUI. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. 
          CHAIR BUS. 
          NO. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          RIGHT. 
          ITEM NUMBER 19 PLEASE. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          KELLY SANDERS, PLANNING MANAGER. 
          ITEM 19 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME. 
          LOCATED AT 600 SOUTH WW WHITE ROAD, UH, FIF 15 NOTICES WERE SENT, UH, ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE EASTWOOD VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          SO THE EXISTING R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. 
          THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS STRATEGICALLY LOCATED BETWEEN TWO ACTIVE COMMERCIAL USES AND DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM AN ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER WITH A VARIETY OF BUSINESSES. 
          IT'S FRONTAGE ALONG SOUTH WW WHITE ROAD, A PRIMARY ARTERIAL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE HIGHER TRAFFIC VOLUMES, ENSURES THAT INGRESS AND EGRESS CAN BE EFFICIENTLY MANAGED WITHOUT IMPACTING NEARBY RESIDENTIAL STREETS. 
          THIS CONTEXT MAKES THE PROPERTY WELL SUITED FOR A COMMERCIAL ZONING AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE PATTERN. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME FORWARD PLEASE. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE . 
          YES. 
          HI, SORRY. 
          UM, BACK AGAIN. 
          SO, UH, YES, SO THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY. 
          IT'S BEEN AN OFFICE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS AREA IS COMMERCIAL, A LONG WW WHITE. 
          SO ASKING FOR C TWO ZONING, UM, TO BRING IT UP TO, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL USE, WHICH IT, IT IS. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO I KNOW THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          SO PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BUT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM EAST LAWN VILLAGE. 
          UH, WE DID REACH OUT TO THEM BUT DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. BERRYMAN. 
          IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE. 
          COMMISSIONER LO TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT. 
          THANKS FOR ANSWERING THAT. 
          UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF ALSO SAID THERE IS NO ANSWER. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM THE LETTER THAT WE SENT OUT. 
          AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN THE BOUNDARIES OR JUST THE CLOSEST NEARBY? UM, I BEL GIVE ME A SECOND. 
          I HAVE TO CONFIRM. 
          BUT IT'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT IT IS ACROSS THE STREET AND BECAUSE IF IT'S WITHIN SIX OR I'M SORRY, 200 FEET FROM BOUNDARIES, THEY ARE NOTIFIED AS WELL EVEN IF THE PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN THAT PROPERTY OR WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES. 
          MS. FAIRMAN, DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT ARE YOU WITHIN THE 200 FEET? I KNOW YOU'RE NOT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES. 
          YES, THEY'RE WITHIN THE 200 FEET. 
          JUST NOT WITHIN THE BOUNDARY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, IT'S ACROSS THE STREET. 
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OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          SO THE BOUNDARY FOR EASTWOOD VILLAGE IS ACROSS THE STREET, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE WITHIN 200 FEET THEY ARE NOTIFIED. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AWESOME. 
          COMMISSIONER LO, ANY FURTHER? QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? SEEING NONE TO MY RIGHT. 
          QUESTIONS? NONE. 
          REMOTE? NONE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER LO TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. 
          YEAH, I JUST PULLED THIS TO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENGAGEMENT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I THINK USUALLY WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S APPROVAL FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT I DO THINK IT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD COMMON SENSE CHANGE MATCHES THE USE THAT IT'S BEING USED FOR. 
          UM, SO I MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          ITEM NUMBER 19. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SORRY. 
          SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KELLUM. 
          HE BEAT YOU JUST BY A U AND A Y AS IT WERE. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, UH, MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL, UH, BY COMMISSIONER LO WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM. 
          UH, DISCUSSION LEFT. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          RIGHT. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          DISCUSSION REMOTELY. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL. 
          ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER LO? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. 
          SORRY IT DIDN'T COME THROUGH. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIR WITH SAMANTHA. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 21 PLEASE. 
          ALMOST THERE FOLKS. 
          ALL GOOD AFTERNOON, BRONTE FOR FRA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          ITEM NUMBER 21 IS LOCATED AT 42 11 COMMERCIAL AVENUE GOING FROM R FOUR TO MF 33. 
          ALL OVERLAYS REMAIN THE SAME. 
          17 NOTICES WERE SENT TO AND RECEIVED IN FAVOR. 
          ZERO OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET. 
          THERE IS A ONE IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED HARLANDALE AND MCCOLLUM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. 
          THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. 
          THE PROPOSED MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ABUTTING AND LOCATED WITHIN PROXIMITY TO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          THE REQUEST TO MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT AT 33 UNITS PER ACRE WOULD INTRODUCE A DENSITY THAT IS UNCHARACTERISTIC OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. 
          AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE AS THE REQUEST WOULD STILL PROVIDE AN INCREASE IN VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES IN THE AREA WHICH IS MORE SUITABLE FOR THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. 
          THE PROPOSED ZONING IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATE HOUSING TYPES TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION AT ALL INCOME LEVELS. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          HI, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. 
          MY NAME IS ANNA SALAZAR. 
          MY HUSBAND AND I ARE THE OWNERS OF 42 0 7 AND 42 11 COMMERCIAL AVENUE. 
          TWO SIDE-BY-SIDE LOTS HERE IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO WHERE WE'RE BOTH BORN AND RAISED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE'RE STILL PROUD TO LIVE THERE, WORK AND INVEST RIGHT THERE IN THAT COMMUNITY. 
          WE EVEN OWN AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP NEARBY. 
          SO WE'RE DEEPLY ROOTED AND PERSONALLY INVESTED IN THE SOUTH SIDE AT 42 0 7 COMMERCIAL, WE BUILT A DUPLEX THAT STAYS FULLY RENTED. 
          IN FACT, WE HAVE A WAITING LIST OF TENANTS. 
          THAT EXPERIENCE SHOWED US JUST HOW HIGH THE HOUSING DEMAND IS IN THIS AREA. 
          AND HONESTLY, WE REALIZED WE UNDERDEVELOPED A LOT. 
          WE ACTUALLY MADE A MISTAKE, NOT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY THERE. 
          ON AS FAR AS HOUSING, WE REALIZED WE HAD UNDER DEVELOPED A LOT. 
          SO THIS TIME WITH 42 11 COMMERCIAL, WE WANT TO DO IT RIGHT BY RESPONSIBLY MAXIMIZING THE PROPERTY'S POTENTIAL WITH AN MF 33 ZONING. 
          IT MAKES SENSE. 
          WHY WILL WE BILL FOR WHEN WE CAN BUILD AID AND HELP THE COMMUNITY? UH, CONSIDERING WE'RE NEARBY TEXAS A M MF 33 ALLOWS 33 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          OUR PROPERTY IS A QUARTER ACRE, WHICH FULLY SUPPORTS EIGHT UNITS UNDER CITY CODE. 
          THESE WILL BE LONG-TERM RENTALS THAT WILL PERSONALLY OWN AND MANAGE NOT FLIPS. 
          WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT FLIPPERS, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT FLIPPERS. 
          SO TO ENSURE QUALITY AND STABILITY AND UPKEEP OF THE PROPERTY, WE'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THAT HISD IS IN FAVOR. 
          AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS ALSO PROVIDED A SUPPORTING LETTER A QUARTER OF AN ACRE. 
          CAN EASE, CAN RESPONSIBLY SUPPORT EIGHT UNITS FORWARD? UNDERUSED AT THE LAND EIGHT UNITS MEANS MORE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY FOR LOCAL FAMILIES AND PROFESSIONALS. 
          MORE TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND IT DIRECTLY MEETS 
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SOUTH SIDE HOUSING NEEDS WITHIN THE CODE. 
          COMMUNITY BENEFITS. 
          THIS PROJECT ADDS QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH RESIDENTS WHO WILL SHOP AND SPEND LOCALLY. 
          THE DESIGN INCLUDES OFF STREET PARKING AND LANDSCAPING TO BLEND IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE'RE LONG-TERM OWNERS AND COMMITTED TO KEEPING THE PROPERTY CLEAN, QUIET AND WELL-MAINTAINED. 
          JUST LIKE THE DUPLEX NEXT DOOR, WE'RE NOT JUST BUILDING APARTMENTS, WE'RE BUILDING A STRONGER SOUTH SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          THIS EIGHT UNIT PROJECT FOLLOWS CITY LAW, HAS COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND ADDS LASTING VALUE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE WERE BORN AND RAISED IN. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. MARTINEZ. 
          ONE SECOND PLEASE. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. 
          YES. 
          UH, QUESTION REAL QUICK FOR STAFF. 
          I NOTICE ON THE SLIDE IT SAID, UH, BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS A, WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE HARLAND DALE AND MCCULLOUGH? YEAH, HARLAND DALE. 
          IT WAS, IT IT MARLA HARLAND DALE MCCULLOUGH? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU GUYS DID MEET WITH HARLAND DALE MCCULLUM. 
          HAR HARLANDALE AND YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WHO DID YOU TALK TO THERE? UH, I WOULD HAVE TO, OH, UH, ERICA SALAZAR. 
          THAT WAS ONE OF THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          AS FAR AS THEY'RE IN THE YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING FROM ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, FOR STAFF, BACK TO STAFF REAL QUICK. 
          UH, THE ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION HAS DOWN USE OF FOUR FOUR DRILLING UNITS. 
          CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT, WHAT IS THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND A R? UH, WELL BASICALLY WE WERE RECOMMENDING TRYING TO KEEP THAT R FOUR BASE ZONING JUST BECAUSE IT IS ALL R FOUR AROUND THERE. 
          UM, AND, BUT WE UNDERSTOOD OBVIOUSLY THAT THERE IS ADDITIONAL, UH, NEED FOR ADDITIONAL RESIDENCES. 
          AND SO IF WE DID A CD BUT KEEPING THAT R FOUR BASED ZONING FOUR IS THE HIGHEST NUMBER THAT WE, OR HIGHEST NUMBER OF RESIDENCES THAT COULD BE DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT I WAS THINKING IT WASN'T LIKE TWO UNITS OF FOUR EACH. 
          IT WAS, IT'S LITERALLY JUST FOUR EACH. 
          JUST FOUR DWELLING UNITS? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND BACK TO THE APPLICANT, UM, ARE YOU WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION? WOULD IT BE FOR EIGHT UNIT BILL BE NO, IT WOULD BE FOR FOUR. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IS IT ON THE SCREEN ALL AROUND YOU? IT'S BASICALLY, UH, R FOUR. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT WOULD BE THE CLOSEST R EIGHT OR A, EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE EITHER LIKE, UM, THE RM WOULD BE THE MOST YOU COULD DO FOR AN RM IS FOUR UNITS. 
          UM, IT PROBABLY BE WHAT MF 18? WELL, MF 18 WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP AND I THINK THAT WOULD ONLY GRANT THEM ABOUT, UM, NOT EVEN SIX. 
          OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK MF 25 IS THE NEXT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW SIX UNITS. 
          THE MF 33 WOULD ALLOW THEM THE EIGHT UNITS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN BACK TO THE APPLICANT. 
          HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL? YES, AND I, I DON'T RECALL THE NAME, BUT I DO HAVE AN EMAIL. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          WHO'S THE EMAIL? DO YOU HAVE IT WITH YOU? WHO, WHO'S THE EMAIL FROM AND WHY IS SHE LOOKING FOR THAT? UM, STAFF IS, UM, WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO BUY TIME. 
          DID SOMEONE SAY THE PIZZA'S ON THE WAY OR, SO IT, VILLA CRISP BEER. 
          SORRY. 
          CRISP BEER. 
          CRISP BEER VILLA CHRIS AND EDDIE ZONING. 
          AND UM, YES. 
          CHRIS AND EDDIE FROM ZONING. 
          GOT YOU. 
          YES. 
          AND THEY'RE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE RIGHT HERE. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LET ME OPEN IT UP FOR OTHER, ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT. 
          QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS REMOTELY. 
          WELL, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE, UH, ALRIGHT TO YOU COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA FOR, UH, DISCUSSION POTENTIAL MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, IS, IS TALKING TO THEM AFTER THIS. 
          I REALLY, I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MF 33 IS GONNA STICK OUT. 
          I MEAN THIS WHOLE AREA IS R FOUR AND YES, THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH 'CAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT THERE ON SOUTH YEAH. 
          BY FOUR 10 AND EVERYTHING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I, I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND A CONTINUANCE SO YOU CAN TALK WITH YOUR CASE MANAGER, TALK WITH THE CITY, UH, UH, COUNCIL OFFICE AND KIND OF GET SOMETHING GOING. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING MAYBE NEXT TIME FROM THE ACTUAL HARLAND OR MCCULLUM THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T GET SOMETHING FROM, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF 
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YOUR ENDEAVOR OR IF THEY KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE EIGHT OR FOUR UNITS. 
          I, I JUST A LITTLE UNCLEAR. 
          UM, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, OR A MOTION FOR, UH, CONTINUANCE FOR, UH, TWO WEEKS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS TO OCTOBER 21ST. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          BY COMMISSIONER KELLY. 
          UH, DISCUSSION LEFT. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          RIGHT. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          DISCUSSION REMOTE. 
          SEEING NONE BRIEFLY. 
          I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT MF 33 MID-BLOCK AT THIS. 
          IF IT WERE ON A CORNER MM-HMM . 
          MORE LIKELY, BUT, YOU KNOW, 2, 2, 3 DOORS DOWN. 
          IT'S KIND OF AN ISSUE. 
          SO SOME DISCUSS WITH YOUR CASE MANAGER AND DISTRICT THREE STAFF AS WELL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          ITEM NUMBER 21 IS, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS AND MOTION THEREOF BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLY. 
          ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. 
          COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER LO? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HUEY. 
          AYE. 
          COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES. 
          CHAIR BUSANTE. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. 
          NUMBER ONE IS DISCUSSION AND ELECTION OF OPEN ZONING COMMISSION. 
          VICE CHAIR FOR THE REMAINING TERM. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR MO FOR, FOR NOMINATIONS ON ITEM NUMBER 23 ZONING. 
          COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR. 
          I NOMINATE COMMISSIONER HUEY FOR VICE CHAIR. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM. 
          UH, AUDREY ACCLIMATION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, WE WILL OPEN THIS ELECTION UP FOR, WE WILL OPEN THIS. 
          I'M BEGINNING AGAIN. 
          STOPPING. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ELECTING COMMISSIONER HUEY AS VICE CHAIR FOR THE REMAINING TERM. 
          SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. 
          ALRIGHT, CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER HUEY. 
          AND NOW WE GET TO ADD PRO TIM TO NEXT MEETING. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, 
          [Approval of Minutes
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CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 16TH ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES. 
          ANY AMENDMENTS? INUNDATIONS CORRECTIONS CHANGES? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE. 
          LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. 
          LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE. 
          IS THERE A MOTION? UH, MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED. 
          ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER LO. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COLLUM. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. 
          ABSTAIN. 
          ABSTAIN ABSTENTION BY COMMISSIONER HUEY. 
          IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, TECHNICALLY WHAT YOU SHOULD DO? ALRIGHT. 
          THE TIME OH DIRECTOR'S REPORT. 
          THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT THE TIME BEING 5:52 PM ON OCTOBER 7TH. 
          THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.