[00:00:50] >> MAYOR JONES: GOOD AFTERNOON. THE TIME IS NOW 2:01 P.M. ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15TH, 2025, AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO B SESSION IS CALLED TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> CLERK: >> MAYOR JONES: GREAT. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT TWO ITEMS TODAY THAT ARE INTERCONNECTED, ONE MELODY AND THE TEAM ARE GOING TO BRIEF ON HUMAN SERVICES CONSOLIDATED FUNDING PROCESS AND PRESOLICITATION PROCESS AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE INITIAL FRAMEWORK FOR FEDERAL GRANTS TABLE TOP EXERCISE. AS WE -- AS WE ARE HEADED INTO A VERY CHALLENGING FISCAL ENVIRONMENT AND BEGIN TO SEE THE IMPACTS OF SOME OF THESE FEDERAL CUTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT, ONE, WHO IS ALREADY EXPERIENCING SOME OF THESE. MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE SWOAKEN UP TO THE -- WOKEN UP TO THE SAME HEADLINE I DID THIS MORNING WHERE MEALS ON WHEELS IN OUR COMMUNITY UNFORTUNATELY LOST OUT ON THAT FUNDING, AND WE'RE ALREADY BEGINNING TO SEE -- BUT THEN ACTUALLY YOU ALSO SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT COULD NOT HAPPEN. JUST THIS MORNING I WAS THANKFUL TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY HOME. THESE WERE 11 HOMES ON THE WEST SIDE, DISTRICT FIVE, IN FACT, AND THESE WERE HOMES THAT PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO BUY. AND THAT WAS A PROGRAM THAT WAS ONLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF FEDERAL GRANTS. SO IT'S NOT ONLY THE CUTS THAT WE WILL SEE ON MEAL PROGRAMS, ET CETERA, AS WELL AS CUTS SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, CHIP, SNAP, BUT ALSO THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE REALIZED IF THESE OTHER FEDERAL GRANTS GO AWAY, WHETHER IT COMES TO THE ABILITY TO HAVE HOME EQUITY AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS. SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION HERE, AND THIS IS DESIGNED TO HELP US DO TWO THINGS: ONE, HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE RESOURCES THAT COULD BE USED TO HELP FILL THE GAP THAT WE KNOW IS -- IS -- IT IS VERY LIKELY TO COME WHEN IT COMES TO MELODY'S BUDGET, FOR EXAMPLE. THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE FEDERAL GRANTS TABLE TOP EXERCISE, I THINK, WILL ALSO HELP US SEE -- SEE OURSELVES BETTER. LET ME SAY THAT. I WAS -- AND YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THIS, BUT I WAS SURPRISED IN THE COURSE OF OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF FIDELITY AND ANALYSIS, STAFFING ANALYSIS IN PARTICULAR, AS WE DID WHEN IT CAME TO OUR SAPD OFFICERS. AND THAT WAS A VERY USEFUL EXERCISE AND SOMETHING THAT FOLKS WERE ABLE TO ROUTINELY POINT TO AND SAY, HEY, HEY, HEY, WE DID THIS ANALYSIS, RIGHT, WE COMMITTED TO THIS, AND NOW WE'RE NOT DOING IT. IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, I THINK, FOR US TO HAVE THAT SAME LEVEL OF ANALYSIS IN OTHER PLACES. SO WE KNOW 50% OF METRO HEALTH'S FUNDING, FOR EXAMPLE, COMES FROM FEDERAL GRANTS. AND IF IN THE COURSE OF THE TABLE TOP EXERCISE IT BECOMES QUITE CLEAR WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES MIGHT BE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A RESULT OF THAT MONEY GOING AWAY, WE COULD THEN SAY ACTUALLY, IF THAT MONEY GOES AWAY, WE AS A COUNCIL ARE STILL COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES, ERIK, THEN, WILL PROVIDE US WITH A PRICE TAG, AND THAT WILL BE OUR ANALYSIS AS WE GO INTO THE FY '27 BUDGET ACT, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS ANALYSIS ON POLICE OFFICERS, OH, BY THE WAY, WE ALSO HAVE THIS ANALYSIS ON PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES, X, Y AND Z. AND SIMILARLY, IF WE WANTED TO LOOK AT GRANTS WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ANYTHING FROM HUD, THAT WILL HELP US ALSO LOOK AT HOW WE MIGHT PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES, AND WE'RE SO COMMITTED TO DOING THAT. SO THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE EXERCISE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TO THIS, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE COURSE OF THESE, AND WHAT THESE HAVE ALWAYS HELPED ME DO [00:05:01] IS HELP TO REDUCE THE UNCERTAINTY, RIGHT? LET'S IDENTIFY THE PS ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING, LET'S HELP UNDERSTAND THE SEVERITY WITH SOME OF OUR COUNTY AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS MAY SIMILARLY BE EXPERIENCING, CUTS TO THEIR OWN BUDGETS. AND THEN WE HAVE THE VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATION OF, OKAY, WHAT DO WE STOP DOING. WHAT MAY WE POTENTIALLY HAVE TO STOP DOING AS A RESULT OF THESE CUTS, AND HOW QUICKLY, THEN, CAN WE HELP COMMUNICATE AND MANAGE THE EXPECTATIONS OF THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY, MANY OF WHOM ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED AS A RESULT OF THE CHANGES, EITHER AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL OR CHANGES IN OUR OWN CITY BUDGET TO COVER THAT GAP. SO I WANTED TO LAY THAT KIND OF BEFORE THE COUNCIL AS WE KIND OF GET OUR MIND RIGHT INTO THESE TWO PRETTY -- PRETTY MEATY TOPICS, AND SO WITH THAT, ERIK, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR IF YOU'D LIKE US TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. >> WALSH: SURE, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF ISSUES. ONE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A REMINDER ABOUT THE FIRST TOPIC ON DELEGATE AGENCIES AND THE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING PROCESS. AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH A DELEGATE AGENCY PROCESS SINCE THE LATE '70S, AND HAVE ADJUSTED IT OVER TIME TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL THAT -- AND IT WILL BE A REMINDER FOR SOME OF YOU, LAST MARCH WE HAD A B SESSION TO DISCUSS COUNCIL PRIORITIES AND INPUT ON AN UPCOMING SOLICITATION AROUND DELEGATE AGENCIES. THERE WAS A VARIETY OF CONVERSATION, AND WHAT -- BUT NOTHING CLEAR, AND WHAT BECAME CLEAR TO ME AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY REPORTED TO THE PRIOR COUNCIL, WAS THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO ENTER THAT SOLICITATION. WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING INTERIM FOR FISCAL YEAR '26, AND THEN WAIT FOR THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL FOR THE NEW TERM TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, BECAUSE THESE ARE MULTIYEAR CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE. SO IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET THIS YEAR, AND YOU'LL REMEMBER THE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS THAT WE HAD, AND MEL'S SPECIFICALLY, WHERE WE AWARDED THE DESIGNATED SERVICES 12 MONTH'S WORTH OF FUNDING AND COMPETITIVE AWARDED CONTRACTS WERE EIGHT MONTH'S OF FUNDING. AND THE ADOPTED BUDGET HAS FUNDS SET ASIDE FOR THE LAST FOUR MONTH OF THE YEAR, WE MADE SOME -- WE DIPPED INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT IN THE TERMS OF THE AMENDMENTS AT THE VERY END OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET, WITH THE INTENT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, GET INPUT FROM YOU ALL AND GO THROUGH THAT SOLICITATION PROCESS AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR CONTRACT LATER ON IN THE YEAR -- I'M SORRY, IN 2026. AND SO THIS IS THE -- WE'RE BACK TO TODAY'S CONVERSATION, AND SOME OF THE SLIDES WILL LOOK SIMILAR. WE'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK IN THE BUDGET WORK SESSION, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK SO WE CAN PLAN APPROPRIATELY GOING FORWARD. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MEL TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. >> WOOSLEY: THANK YOU. AND SO GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE HUMAN SERVICES CONSOLIDATED FUNDING PROCESS AND TO GATHER YOUR INPUT ON FUNDING PRIORITIES AND POLICY REVISIONS. THIS PROCESS INCLUDES INVESTMENTS THAT SUPPORT BOTH HUMAN SERVICES AND THE HOMELESS STRATEGY AND SERVICES DEPARTMENT, PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES. BEFORE I GET STARTED, WE DO HAVE THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES WITH US OVER HERE, SCOTT BUCHANICH AS WELL AS THE KRONKOWSKY FOUNDATION IS HERE AND A NUMBER OF OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS. AND SO THIS AFTERNOON, I'LL PROVIDE SOME QUICK HISTORY ON THE FUNDING PROCESS. A SUMMARY OF THE FISCAL YEAR '26 BUDGET FOR CONSOLIDATED FUNDING, AND I WILL REVIEW THE PROPOSED BUDGET FUNDING PRIORITIES AND POLICY OPTIONS FOR YOUR INPUT, AS WELL AS OUR PROPOSED TIMELINE AND NEXT STEPS. AND THEN I'LL END WITH A PRESOLICITATION BRIEFING FOR HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACTS. SO THE BIANNUAL CONSOLIDATED FUNDING PROCESS WAS FIRST IMPLEMENTED IN 2005. WE COMBINED GENERAL AND GRANT FUNDING SOURCES AS WELL AS MULTIPLE ANNUAL REQUESTS FOR PROPOSAL PROCESSES INTO ONE COMMUNITY-BASED SOCIAL SERVICES INVESTMENT TOOL. THROUGH CITY COUNCIL STAKEHOLDER AND COMMUNITY INPUT, THE PROCESS HAS EVOLVED TO INCLUDE DEEPER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, COORDINATION WITH COMMUNITY FUNDERS, GREATER ALIGNMENT WITH CITY PROGRAMS AND PRIORITIES, AND A FOCUS ON EQUITY BY INVESTING OUR LIMITED RESOURCES TO [00:10:02] SERVE VULNERABLE POPULATION IN AREAS OF HIGH NEED. THIS WAS THE FOUNDATION OF THE PROCESS THAT WAS EXAMINED THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET REVIEW WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT. IT WAS COMPLETED IN COORDINATION WITH THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION AND THE MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET DEPARTMENT, AND DHS. POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I WILL GO OVER SHORTLY WITH YOU BUILD ON CITY COUNCIL INPUT FROM THE 2026 HUMAN SERVICES BUDGET WORK SESSION, AS WELL AS CVR RECOMMENDATIONS. THE BUDGET INCLUDES 24.5 MILLION TO THE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING POOL. THIS INCLUDES ABOUT 20 MILLION AWARDED TO 80 DIFFERENT DELEGATE AGENCY PROGRAMS AND 7.2 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND, 3 MILLION IS FROM STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS. 4.26MILLION WAS SET ASIDE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS TO BE COMPETITIVELY AWARDED THROUGH A NEW RFP CYCLE WITH A CONTRACT TERM THAT WOULD BEGIN JUNE THE FIRST OF 2026. AWARDS INCLUDE 10.28 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT 42% OF THE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING POOL, TO NINE DESIGNATED PROGRAMS WITH 12-MONTH CONTRACTS. AND ABOUT $10 MILLION WENT TO EXTEND COMPETITIVELY AWARDED PROGRAMS FOR EIGHT MONTHS, WHILE WE IMPLEMENTED THIS NEW PROCESS. SO THIS CHART REFLECTS THE BUDGET BY PRIORITIES AND STRATEGIES, SUPPORTING CHILDREN AND YOUTH SUCCESS, THAT'S 31% OF THE BUDGET. INCLUDING CHILD -- THIS INCLUDES CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION STRATEGIES, OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMS, AND AT RISK AND OPPORTUNITY YOUTH PROGRAMS. STRENGTHENING FAMILIES INCLUDES SUPPORTS FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION, FINANCIAL COUNSELING, AND A NEW STRATEGY TO SUPPORT THE INTEGRATED COMMUNITY SAFETY OFFICES DETERRENCE INITIATIVE FROM VIOLENCE. THIS IS ABOUT 9% OF THE TOTAL POOL. SENIOR INDEPENDENCE REPRESENTS ABOUT 10% OF THE FUNDING PRIORITY, AND PROVIDES THE ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE SENIOR CENTERS, AND THEN ENDING HOMELESSNESS STRATEGIES, 50% OF THE FUNDING POOL, INCLUDE SHELTER OPERATIONS, STREET OUTREACH AND RAPID REHOUSING AS WELL AS OTHER STRATEGIES. THESE PRIORITIES AND STRATEGIES DIRECTLY ALIGN WITH THE WORK OF BOTH THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THE HOMELESS STRATEGY AND SERVICES DEPARTMENT. AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THESE PRIORITIES AND ALLOCATION PERCENTAGES REMAIN THE SAME FOR THE NEW CYCLE. IF COUNCIL WISHES TO MAKE CHANGES, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY. LARGELY BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET REVIEW, WE DID FOCUS ON UPDATING THE PROCESS TO IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY, REDUCE COMPLEXITY AND ENSURE SUPPORT FOR CITY PROGRAMS AND PRIORITIES THROUGH FOUR PRIMARY PILLARS. FIRST WE ASSESSED CURRENTLY FUNDED DESIGNATED AND COMPETITIVE INVESTMENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER THEY EXTEND THE REACH OF CITY DEPARTMENTS, SERVE AS A PRIMARY REFERRAL FOR THE CITY PROGRAM OR DO THEY BROADLY ALIGN WITH A FUNDING PRIORITY, BUT ARE NOT TIED TO A SPECIFIC CITY PROGRAM. AND WE ASSESS THE IMPACT TO CITY PRIORITIES IF FUNDING WAS REDUCED OR DISCONTINUED. BASED ON THIS REVIEW, WE ARE RECOMMENDING FURTHER CATEGORIZING FUNDING INTO A CENTRAL AND DISCRETIONARY SERVICES. WE ARE ALSO BROADENING OUR ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIES TO BUILD EXISTING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK INTO THE PROCESS SUCH AS THE CITY BUDGET SURVEY RESULTS, COMMUNITY INPUT THAT'S GATHERED THROUGH PLANNING AND ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS, WITH OTHER FUNDING AS WELL AS OUR DEPARTMENTS; EXPANDING OUR COLLABORATION WITH THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL AND GATHERING MORE FEEDBACK FROM FUNDED AGENCIES TO IMPROVE OUR CONTRACT SOLICITATION, NEGOTIATION, EXECUTION AND MONITORING PROCESSES. WE WILL ALSO PUBLISH A POLICY DOCUMENT NEXT MONTH THAT PROVIDES ADVANCED INFORMATION ON THE FUNDING PROCESS, THE PRIORITIES AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR INPUT TO ALLOW AGENCIES ADDITIONAL TIME TO PREPARE. AND IMPORTANTLY, STRENGTHEN OUR INTERNAL ALIGNMENT AND OUR ALIGNMENT WITH OTHER LOCAL FUNDERS WHO SHARE SIMILAR PRIORITIES. WE DO THIS TO STANDARDIZE PERFORMANCE METRICS ALONG FUNDING PRIORITIES AND ACROSS FUNDERS, WHERE POSSIBLE, WE DUESING THE [00:15:02] NUMBER OF -- REDUCING THE NUMBER OF METRICS COLLECTED, CAPTURING THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO DETERMINE PROGRAM OUTCOMES WHILE REDUCING THE REPORTING BURDEN FOR AGENCIES AND MONITORING STAFF. LASTLY, WE ARE PROPOSING A FOUR-YEAR COMPETITIVE RFP CYCLE AND INCREASING THE MINIMUM FUNDING AMOUNT FOR AWARDS FROM 50,000 TO 100,000. AND THAT WILL HELP AGENCIES WITH LONGER TERM PLANNING, PERFORMANCE EVALUATION AND REDUCE ADMINISTRATIVE WORKLOAD FOR AGENCY AND CITY STAFF. FOR CONTEXT, REDUCING THE MINIMUM -- OR INCREASING THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD WOULD IMPACT, IF WE DID THAT TODAY, WOULD IMPACT ABOUT 20 CURRENTLY FUNDED PROGRAMS. AS A KEY PART OF OUR MOVE TO GREATER COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY ON THE FUNDING PROCESS, WE WANT TO FURTHER DEFINE OUR CATEGORIES -- FUNDING CATEGORIES, SINCE THEY DO IMPACT FUNDING AVAILABILITY. FIRST, WE ARE RECOMMENDING CLEARLY SEPARATING DESIGNATED AND COMPETITIVE FUNDING PROCESSES, DESIGNATED FUNDING WOULD BE AWARDED ONLY TO ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT ARE CRITICAL TO CITY SERVICE DELIVERY. AND WHERE THE NONPROFIT IS THE ONLY LOCAL PROVIDER ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. DISCRETIONARY SERVICES, SUCH AS A PARTNERSHIP WOULD APPLY THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE FUNDING PROCESS. COMPETITIVE FUNDING WOULD BE AWARDED THROUGH A FOUR-YEAR RFP CYCLE, AND FOR YEAR 1, CITY COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE 16-MONTH CONTRACTS FOR THE TERM JUNE 1ST, 2026, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2027. THE CONTRACTS WOULD BE RENEWED ANNUALLY BASED ON FUNDING AVAILABILITY AND ALSO BASED ON THE AGENCY'S PERFORMANCE FOR UP TO THREE ADDITIONAL YEARS IN THAT SCENARIO. THE SECOND ACTION FURTHER BREAKS DOWN FUNDING INTO TWO SERVICE CATEGORIES, BOTH DESIGNATED AND COMPETITIVE FUNDING FOR ESSENTIAL SERVICES DIRECTLY SUPPORTS OUR PROGRAMS AND LINES OF WORK; HOWEVER, ESSENTIAL SERVICES PARTICIPATE IN THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS, WHEN THERE ARE MULTIPLE AGENCIES WORKING IN THE SAME SPACE. DISCRETIONARY FUNDING DOES NOT DIRECTLY SUPPORT A CORE HUMAN SERVICES OR HOMELESS SERVICES PROGRAM, NOR DOES IT IMPACT -- NOR IMPACT ESTABLISH SERVICE LEVELS OR PERFORMANCE GOALS. THESE FUNDS ARE AWARDED TO WORTHY AND IMPORTANT COMMUNITY PROGRAMS, BUT DO NOT DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR CITY PROGRAMS. THIS CHART PROVIDES ADDITIONAL DETAIL ON HOW THOSE PROGRAMS ARE ALIGNED WITH THE FUNDING TYPES. AS MENTIONED, NINE DESIGNATED PROGRAMS TOTALING OVER $10 MILLION RECEIVE 12-MONTH CONTRACTS. EIGHT OF THE PROGRAMS PROVIDE SPECIAL SERVICES THAT SUPPORT OUR OPERATIONS. THAT INCLUDES FIVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS PROVIDING AFTER-SCHOOL CHALLENGE, HAHAVEN FOR HOPE CAMPUS OPERATIONS, TWO CENTER FOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES PROGRAMS, THE RESTORATION CENTER, SOBERING UNIT AND MINOR MEDICAL SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS IN POLICE CUSTODY AND INTEGRATED BEHAVIOR TREATMENT PROGRAM AT THE HAVEN FOR HOPE CAMPUS. AND THEN BASED ON COUNCIL FEEDBACK DURING THE '26 BUDGET WORK SESSION IN AUGUST, FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES, BATTERED WOMEN'S AND CHILDREN SHELTER AND THEIR COMMUNITY BASED COUNSELING ON THE HAVEN FOR HOPE CAMPUS ARE DESIGNATED. THE UP PARTNERSHIP RECEIVED DESIGNATED FUNDING OVER THE LAST TWO CYCLES TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY-WIDE YOUTH PROGRAM AND DATA SERVICE ANALYSIS, THESE SERVICES ARE NOT TIED TO SPECIFIC CITY PROGRAMS AND WE RECOMMEND THEY PARTICIPATE IN THE B COMPETITIVE FUNDING PROCESS FOR FUTURE AWARDS. SO CURRENTLY THEY WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH 2026. 50 AGENCIES AND 65 PROGRAMS RECEIVED THE EIGHT-MONTH CONTRACT EXTENSIONS, 22 AGENCIES PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO CITY DEPARTMENTS, SUCH AS COACHING AND CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES AT OUR NEXT LEVEL OPPORTUNITY YOUTH CENTER AND OUR HOMELESS STREET OUTREACH. AND 28 AGENCIES RECEIVE DISCRETIONARY FUNDING TO PROVIDE AN ARRAY OF IMPORTANT SERVICES TO VULNERABLE CHILDREN, YOUTH, [INDISCERNIBLE] AND INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. TO SUMMARIZE, TODAY WE ARE REQUESTING COUNCIL INPUT ON SIX POLICY ACTIONS TO SHAKE THE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING [00:20:01] PROCESS -- SHAPE THE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING PROCESS AND THE UPCOMING COMPETITIVE RFP PROCESS. WE RECOMMEND CONTINUAL LOCATION OF FUNDING USING CURRENT FUNDING PRIORITIES AND ALLOCATION PERCENTAGES , EXTENDING THE COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION CYCLE FROM THE CURRENT TWO TO FOUR YEARS, AND, AGAIN, CONTRACTS WOULD BE RENEWED ANNUALLY THROUGH THE ADOPTED BUDGET PROCESS AND BASED ON PERFORMANCE AND FUNDING AVAILABILITY. SEPARATION OF DESIGNATED AND COMPETITIVE FUNDING PROCESSES, AND THEN IDENTIFYING FURTHER ESSENTIAL AND DISCRETIONARY SERVICES. INCREASING THE MINIMUM FUNDING AWARD FROM 50,000 TO 100,000 TO HELP AGENCIES DEEPEN THEIR WORK AND SCALE AND BETTER REFLECT THE ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH RECEIVING FUNDING. TO PROVIDE CONTEXT, AGAIN, 20 OF THOSE PROGRAMS WOULD RECEIVE LESS THAN -- WHO CURRENTLY RECEIVE LESS THAN $100,000. AND SO THE REALITY OF THE PROGRAM WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE FUNDED. AND THEN LASTLY, WE ARE RECOMMENDING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THAT WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ALLOWABLE GRANT RATE OF 20% AND AGENCY MATCH REQUIREMENTS TO STAY THE SAME, TO CONTINUE TO BE IMPLEMENTED. SO IN TERMS OF TIMELINE FOR THE COMPETITIVE FUNDING PROCESS, IN NOVEMBER, WE WILL HOLD ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS WITH FUNDED NONPROFITS, LOCAL FUNDERS, INCLUDING UNITED WAY, AIR YEAH FOUNDATION, KRONKOWSKI AND THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL, AND OTHER INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS. WE DO THIS TO PROVIDE UPDATES ON COUNCIL POLICY DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVE TODAY INTO THE FUNDING PROCESS, AS WELL AS INTRODUCING POTENTIAL APPLICANTS TO OUR NEW PERFORMANCE MEASURE MODEL. WE ARE PLANNING TO ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS BY DECEMBER 1ST, AND THESE APPLICATIONS WOULD BE DUE BY JANUARY THE 26TH, ABOUT SEVEN WEEKS, GIVEN THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. FOLLOWING THE EVALUATION PROCESS, CITY STAFF WILL MAKE FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION ON MAY THE EIGHTH, AND CONTRACTS WOULD START JUNE 1ST FOR YEAR 1. CONTRACT RENEWAL, AGAIN, WOULD BE APPROVED EACH YEAR, BASED ON PERFORMANCE AND FUNDING AVAILABILITY, AND WE WOULD BEGIN PREPARING, IF WE GO WITH THE FOUR YEARS, WE WOULD BEGIN PREPARING FOR THE NEW FUNDING CYCLE IN NOVEMBER 2029 FOR -- WHICH IS FISCAL YEAR '30 WITH COUNCIL PRIORITY SETTING RFP RELEASE IN DECEMBER, AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF CONTRACTS IN MAY OF 2030. SO COUNCIL, YOUR INPUT WILL BE USED TO FINALIZE THE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING PRIORITIES, THE TERM OF THE RFP CYCLE, COMPETITIVE FUNDING PROCESS AND ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES, INCLUDING MINIMUM FUNDING AWARDS AND AGENCY MATCH REQUIREMENTS. WE WILL HOLD A SERIES OF CONVERSATIONS WITH NONPROFITS, AND ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE ASKING THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE INPUT ON THE RFP DOCUMENT, CONTRACT, AND PARTICIPATE IN OUR EVALUATION PROCESS. FROM A NONPROFIT LENS TO HELP US REDUCE THE COMPLEXITY AND BURDEN FOR POTENTIAL APPLICANTS. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL IN MAY. AND SO QUICKLY, I WILL MOVE TO A REVIEW OF THE SOLICITATION PROCESS FOR HIGH-PROFILE CONTRACTING. WHAT HAPPENED? SO... OKAY. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. SO ON RELEASE, THE RFP WILL BE AVAILABLE AND ADVERTISED THROUGH A VARIETY OF SOURCES, INCLUDING TVSA, BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES WEBSITE, THE EXPRESS-NEWS AND OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS, AND 163 CURRENTLY REGISTERED CITY VENDORS. ONCE THE RFP CLOSES ON JANUARY THE 26TH, THE FINANCE AND THE AUDIT DEPARTMENTS WILL CONDUCT A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT REVIEW, AND AN ESTIMATED 10 EVALUATION PANELS WILL MEET TO SCORE QUALIFIED PROPOSALS WITH VOTING MEMBERS THAT INCLUDE CITY [00:25:01] OF SAN ANTONIO BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS, INDIVIDUALS WITH LYFT EXPERIENCE, COMMUNITY FUNDERS, AND NONPROFIT COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND STAFF FROM RELEVANT DEPARTMENTS. OR I GUESS I SHOULD SAY RELATED DEPARTMENTS. WE WILL REMIND AGENCIES TO ENSURE THAT KEY MEMBERS OF THEIR STAFF AND BOARD DO NOT MAKE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS DURING THE PROHIBITED PERIOD, WHICH WILL BEGIN DECEMBER 15TH OF 2025 AND END 31 DAYS AFTER MAY 8TH, 2026. WE WILL ALSO REMIND THEM THAT THEY ARE PROHIBITED FROM CONTACTING CITY OFFICIALS REGARDING THEIR PROPOSALS FROM JANUARY 26TH, THE DAY OF SUBMISSION, TO THE -- WHEN THE AGENDA POSTS FOR THE MAY 8TH, 2026, A SESSION. IN TERMS OF SOLICITATION REQUIREMENTS, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE AT LEAST ONE YEAR OF HISTORY PRIOR TO THE SOLICITATION CLOSE DATE WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR FUNDING. SCORING WILL BE BASED ON 100-POINT SCALE WITH 25 FOR EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND AND QUALIFICATIONS, 40 POINTS FOR THE PROPOSED PROGRAM PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES A PERFORMANCE SCORE CARD. 25 POINTS FOR THE SOUNDNESS OF THE BUDGET THAT'S SUBMITTED. AND 10 POINTS FOR THE LOCAL PREFERENCE PROGRAM, IF IT'S APPLICABLE. AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE REQUIRED, AND SBEDA WILL BE WAIVED AND THE VETERAN-OWNED PREFERENCE PROGRAM IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS PROCESS. WE ARE PENDING GRANTOR CONFIRMATION FROM THE LOCAL PREFERENCE PROGRAM TO THIS PROCESS WHICH MAY IMPACT THE SCORING CRITERIA. SO THIS CONCLUDES MY FORMAL PRESENTATION. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. MARK CARMONA, DIRECTOR OF HOMELESS STRATEGY AND SERVICES DEPARTMENT, IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS SERVICES. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU, MELODY. VERY HELPFUL. A COUPLE OF -- A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO CONFIRM, ON SLIDE 4, JUST TO LEVEL SET HERE, OF THIS BUDGET, ROUGHLY 5 MILLION IS FROM FEDERAL GRANTS; IS THAT CORRECT. >> WOOSLEY: YES. >> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. 5MILLION FROM FEDERAL GRANTS, AND THE DISCRETIONARY NUMBER ON SLIDE 8, IN THAT BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND, $5 MILLION THERE AS WELL, RIGHT? >> WOOSLEY: THE DISCRETIONARY IS ABOUT $5 MILLION, YES. >> MAYOR JONES: AND SO TO CONFIRM -- AGAIN, AS WE'RE CONSTANTLY THINKING HOW WE CLOSE THAT BUDGET GAP IN '27, IF WE NEEDED TO, WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE THIS DISCRETIONARY MONEY TO BACKFILL ANY -- ANY GAP IN FUNDING AS A RESULT OF NEEDING TO CLOSE THE '27 GAP, CORRECT? >> WOOSLEY: THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE AN OPTION FOR COUNCIL. >> WALSH: SO JUST -- YES, TECHNICALLY, I -- BUT I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING, MAYOR, THAT WHEN YOU ALL ADOPTED THE FISCAL YEAR '26 BUDGET, WE GAVE YOU A BALANCED BUDGET PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR '27. NOW, IT REQUIRES MONITORING AS WE GO THROUGH THIS YEAR, BUT WE AT LEAST HAVE A RUNWAY THAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO LAND THE PLANE ON, GENERALLY. >> MAYOR JONES: UNDERSTOOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTOOD THAT IS POTENTIALLY AN OPTION, AS WE ARE MONITORING THE SITUATION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT DISCRETIONARY MONEY COULD, IN FACT, BE USED TO FILL THAT GAP. OKAY. THE TABLE TOP IS SUPPOSED TO ALSO HELP -- THE INTENT OF THAT IS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW WE MIGHT -- THE RESULTS OF THAT CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW WE WOULD ACTUALLY INFORM OUR GUIDANCE TO YOU HERE -- US UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE NEXT STEPS IF WE WANTED TO DELAY PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO YOU TODAY UNTIL WE UNDERSTOOD TRULY SOME OF THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT -- FROM THAT TABLE TOP TO PROVIDE YOU BEST GUIDANCE, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND, AS YOU LAID OUT, MELODY, MUCH OF THIS IS REALLY JUST KIND OF CARRYING FORWARD PREVIOUS GUIDANCE, BUT AS WE ANTICIPATE THE IMPACTS OF THESE -- OF THESE CUTS AND CAN HAVE A -- YOU KNOW, GET SOME MORE CLARITY ON THAT THROUGH THE TABLE TOP, THERE IS NO NEED TO MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION THAT WE JUST DO WHAT WE HAVE DONE. WE COULD GET SOME MORE SPECIFICITY TO PROVIDE YOU MUCH, MUCH BETTER GUIDANCE, BECAUSE MAYBE THAT DISTRIBUTION LOOKS MUCH DIFFERENT. MAYBE WE ACTUALLY DO A LOT MORE FOR SENIOR INDEPENDENCE, MAYBE WE DO A LOT MORE WHEN IT COMES [00:30:03] TO ONE OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES. SO CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND, IF WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU GUIDANCE INFORMED BY THE TABLE TOPS RESULTS, WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO YOUR TIMELINE? >> WOOSLEY: SO WE CURRENTLY ARE PLANNING TO ISSUE THE RFP ON DECEMBER THE FIRST WITH -- YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH SUBMISSION AND EVALUATION PROCESS, AND GETTING IN FRONT OF COUNCIL ON MAY THE EIGHTH. THAT COULD BE ADJUSTED, SO THAT WE ISSUE AFTER THE TABLE TOP EXERCISE AND GUIDANCE, WHICH, I BELIEVE, IS PLANNED FOR JANUARY -- JANUARY OR -- DECEMBER. AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT HOW WE GET TO JUNE THE FIRST. JUNE THE FIRST, BEING OUR TARGET SINCE WE WILL HAVE CONTRACTS EXPIRING AT THE END OF MAY. SO THE URGENCY WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO FINALIZE, PROCESS -- CONTRACTS FOR JUNE 1ST START. >> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. THE OTHER OPTION, THOUGH, IF IT DOESN'T START ON 1 JUNE, IT STARTS 1 OCTOBER, IS THAT RIGHT? CONCEIVABLY? >> WOOSLEY: TO EXTEND THE EIGHT-MONTH CONTRACTS TO 12 MONTHS. >> MAYOR JONES: TO THE FULL 12 MONTHS, RIGHT. SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU'VE SAID, WE COULD UTILIZE THE RESULTS FROM THE TABLE TOP, EXTEND THESE CONTRACTS FROM EIGHT TO 12 MONTHS, MEANING THOSE CONTRACTS WOULD START ON 1 OCTOBER, NOT 1 JUNE, BUT THAT WOULD ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT THE GUIDANCE WE PROVIDED TO YOU WAS BEST INFORMED BY THE TABLE TOP. YES. OKAY. GOT IT. LET'S SEE. ON THE -- ON THE CRITERIA ON SLIDE -- OOP, EXCUSE ME. SLIDE 14 OF THE SOLICITATION REQUIREMENTS, I HAVE APPRECIATED THE POINT RAISED BY -- AUDIO] -- YOU KNOW, YOU RECOGNIZE A KEY PART OF YOUR JOB IS FUNDRAISING, AND I THINK IT IS HELPFUL THAT WE MIGHT HELP SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS INCENTIVIZE THEM. HAVE WE LOOKED AT HOW WE MIGHT ESSENTIALLY GIVE SOME OF THESE NONPROFITS MORE POINTS IN THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS AS WE SEE OVER TIME THAT CITY FUNDING IS BECOMING A SMALLER AND SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF THEIR OVERALL BUDGET? >> WOOSLEY: WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT. WE GIVE POINTS NOW FOR SUSTAINABILITY PLANS. WE COULD MAKE THAT MORE SPECIFIC, IN THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEED TO SEE PROGRESS OVER TIME. >> MAYOR JONES: I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. CHAIR KAUR? >> KAUR: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION -- OOH, I JUST DISCONNECTED THAT. THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION, MELODY, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK, JESSICA, ON THIS. I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING THIS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS TO TRY TO REALLY FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE BEST SUPPORT THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO SO MUCH WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO JUST TO LEVEL SET ON SOME NUMBERS, RIGHT, I THINK THERE'S BEEN THIS MISNOMER THAT THESE NONPROFIT AGENCIES ARE SOLELY DEPENDENT ON CITY FUNDING. QUITE, IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR BUDGETS THAT RELIES ON OUR FUNDING, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE ONE OUTLIER THAT'S AT 59%, THE AVERAGE ERS PERCENTAGE OF OUR FUNDING THAT'S THEIR BUDGET IS 7.7 7%, AND THAT INCLUDES THE OUTLIER, WHICH YOU KNOW IS PULLING IT UP. SO ON AVERAGE, IF YOU TAKE OUT THAT OUTLIER, WE'RE LESS THAN 5% OF THESE NONPROFIT'S BUDGETS. WHY ARE THEY FIGHTING SO HARD FOR THIS MONEY? FOR WHICH THEY HAVE TO TRULY SUBMIT ATTENDANCE REPORTS FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND GET SCRUTINIZED AND AUDITED BY OUR DEPARTMENTS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LEVEL OF EXPECKTITION THAT WE'VE SET FOR THEM. WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT? SO BASED ON THAT, I WANT TO ASK LAURA TO COME UP. LAURA'S FROM THE KRONKOWSKI FOUNDATION. MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW, SHE'S DONE -- SPENT HER WHOLE LIFE DOING PHILANTHROPY AND SUPPORTING OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. WILL YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT THE FOUNDATION MEANS FOR YOU AS A FUNDER IN THIS COMMUNITY. >> I'M PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT JUST THE GENERAL FUNDER'S LANDSCAPE, AND AS COUNCILWOMAN KAUR MENTIONED, THERE ARE MANY OF US. AND EACH ONE OF THE FUNDERS PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN THE OVERALL OPERATION OF THE ORGANIZATION. WHAT WE ARE SEEING OUTSIDE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDING, SO I REPRESENT PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS, THE CORPORATE FOUNDATIONS, THE FAMILY FOUNDATIONS. WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS EXPLOSIVE GROWTH IN REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE. FOR EXAMPLE, FOR OUR NOVEMBER, WE HAVE A NOVEMBER BOARD MEETING [00:35:03] COMING UP. WE HAD $14 MILLION IN REQUESTS. AND $14 MILLION REPRESENTS WHAT WE WOULD GIVE OUT IN AN ENTIRE YEAR, NOT JUST IN ONE QUARTER. I ALSO SIT ON THE BOARD FOR UNITED WAY, AND A RECENT RFA PROCESS FOR UNITED WAY FOR $15 MILLION BUDGET, WE HAD $62 MILLION IN REQUESTS. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A PICTURE, WITHOUT CITY FUNDING, THAT GROWTH -- THERE WOULD BE AN EVEN LARGER GAP. ORGANIZATIONS ARE VERY DEPENDENT ON A DIVERSITY OF REVENUE SOURCES, INCLUDING THE CITY. I THINK THE OTHER PIECE THAT ORGANIZATIONS REALLY NEED HELP ON THAT WEIGHS IN WHEN YOU'RE MAKING AN INVESTMENT IS THEIR CAPACITY TO OPERATE AS A STRONG AND SUSTAINABLE BUSINESS. SO THE OTHER TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE FUNDERS' COMMUNITY IS A LOT OF ASKS FOR HELP, CAN YOU HELP US EXPLORE MERGERS AND ACQUISITION, CAN YOU HELP US RECRUIT NEW BOARD MEMBERS, CAN YOU HELP US TEACH OUR BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT GOVERNANCE. AND THE LIST GOES ON. CAN YOU HELP US WITH BUDGET PLANNING, CAN YOU HELP US WITH SCENARIO PLANNING AS WE FACE THESE CUTS. SO OUR INVESTMENT -- OPERATION AND THE SERVICES TO CLIENTS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT IN OPTIMIZING THE ORGANIZATION'S ABILITY TO FUNCTION WELL. I THINK THE OTHER ASK AND THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN THE FUNDERS' COMMUNITY IS HELPING ORGANIZATIONS BE ABLE ZERO ARTICULATE THE IMPACT OF THEIR WORK. SO NOT JUST TELLING US ABOUT ACTIVITY AND HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY SERVE, BUT HOW WELL DO YOU PROVIDE THAT SERVICE AND HOW ARE PEOPLE BETTER OFF AS A RESULT OF YOUR SERVICE? BECAUSE THEN THIS COMPETITIVE LANDSCAPE, THAT ALSO BECOMES REALLY CRITICAL IN MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE YOU DIRECT YOUR FUNDS. THE OTHER TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING ARE CEO BURNOUT. WE CAN'T -- AND WE HAVE SOME AMAZING CEO LEADERS AND STAFF IN SAN ANTONIO. SO THAT'S ANOTHER NEED THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING WITH FUNDING. STAFF TURNOVER AND WAGES FOR STAFF, ALL OF THESE THINGS, AGAIN, ARE ISSUES THAT WEIGH IN INTO THE FUNDING -- FUNDING THAT WE PROVIDE. I THINK THE OTHER THING WORTH NOTING AS YOU THINK ABOUT FUNDING, I THINK THAT THE GENERAL FUNDER FOOTPRINT IS ALSO CHANGING A LOT. WE HAVE LESS CORPORATIONS GIVING MONEY. WE HAVE CORPORATIONS IN TERMS, DECIDING THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE AWAY THEIR IMPACTED BY TARIFFS AND COSTS OF GOODS INCREASING, AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY POTENTIALLY THEY HAVE ON THE TABLE TO GIVE AWAY IS DECREASING. WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE FAMILY FOUNDATIONS IN SAN ANTONIO. THERE IS A BIG SHIFT OCCURRING RIGHT NOW IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THOSE FAMILY FOUNDATIONS WHERE THE ORIGINAL FOUNDERS WHO CREATED THESE FOUNDATIONS, THE LEADERSHIP AND THE FUNDING DECISIONS ARE NOW FOFOCUSED OR SHIFTING TO THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH GENERATION OF THOSE FAMILIES, AND IT'S VERY -- YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A CHANGE. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET FOUR, FIVE, 15, 20 FAMILY MEMBERS TO ALIGN ON A STRATEGY ABOUT HOW THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE GIVEN AWAY NOW VERSUS HOW IT WAS DECIDED TO BE GIVEN AWAY BY THE ORIGINAL FOUNDER, SO OVERALL, I THINK THIS INCREASINGLY COMPETITIVE LANDSCAPE JUST MEANS THAT MORE THAN EVER WE NEED ALL OF US, WE NEED THE CITY FUNDING, WE NEED PRIVATE FOUNDATION FUNDING AND WE NEED CORPORATE FUNDING. WE NEED ALL OF US AT THE TABLE. JUST REAL QUICKLY, SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE DEPLOYING STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE DEPLOYING BECAUSE I THINK IT REALLY ALIGNS WITH THE THINGS THAT MELODY SHARED IN HER PRESENTATION, WE ARE LOOKING AT -- I THINK Y'ALL KNOW THERE ARE OVER 13,000 NONPROFITS THAT EXIST, THAT INCLUDES SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES, I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE REPRESENTED TODAY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAPPING THE ECOSYSTEM. SO WHO ARE ALL THE NONPROFITS SERVING CHILDREN? WHO ARE ALL THE NONPROFITS SERVING SENIORS? WHAT DO THEY DO? WHERE IS THEIR OVERLAP? WHERE ARE THEIR GAPS? HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT GAPS AND HOW DO WE REALLY VET WHO ARE THE MOST ESSENTIAL ORGANIZATIONS AND ENSURING BETTER CITY FUNCTIONS WELL, BECAUSE AS I THINK ALL OF YOU KNOW, AS DECREASES ARE MADE IN ANY AREA OF FUNDING, IT JUST CREATING A GREATER -- CREATES A GREATER NEED SOMEWHERE ELSE. ONE IN FOUR FOSTER KIDS AS THEY AGE OUT OF THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM WILL END UP HOMELESS, SEX TRAFFICKED, IN JAIL, SO YOU'RE JUST TRANSFERRING THE EXPENSE SOMEWHERE ELSE WHEN YOU'RE REDUCING FUNDING IN ONE AREA. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT SOLUTION. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT MAKES SENSE. AS MELODY SAID, I THINK AS FUNDERS, WE'RE ALSO REALLY LOOKING AT EQUITY IN TERMS OF HOW WE GIVE MONEY AWAY, THAT WE'RE NOT -- YOU KNOW, THE FUNDERS SITTING ON HIGH DECIDING WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING TO BE GIVEN AWAY, BUT WE ARE PARTNERING WITH AND WORKING ALONGSIDE THESE ORGANIZATIONS, WHETHER IT'S WITH CAPACITY BUILDING, REALLY LISTENING AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR NEEDS AND THEN THE LAST PIECE THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IS JUST COLLABORATION AS [00:40:05] MELODY SAID. COLLABORATION AMONG THE FUNDING GROUPS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER. WE HAVE STARTED A BEYOND GIVING COLLABORATIVE, WHERE MULTIPLE FUNDERS HAVE PUT IN MONEY AND WE'RE PARTNERING THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL TO BUILD CAPACITY AND HELP THESE ORGANIZATIONS OPTIMIZE, AND MANY OF YOU GOT -- WE'RE LAUNCHING A PAID MEDIA CAMPAIGN TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE IMPACT OF NONPROFITS IN COMMUNITY CALLED ALL HEARTS ON DECK, WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING SOON. AND LASTLY, I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH MANY OF OUR NONPROFIT REPRESENTATIVES LAST WEEK WHEN THEY DID THEIR SA TO SA ADVOCACY CAMPAIGN, AND, AGAIN, THAT CAME OUT OF THE COLLABORATIVE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING CREATING ONE UNIFIED VOICE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT -- THE ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS ARE, WITH OVER 13 BILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT, 80,000 JOBS A YEAR. EVERY DOLLAR THAT YOU ALL GIVE THEM IS LEVERAGED WITH 11 ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FROM OTHER FUNDERS, SO, AGAIN, I THINK IF YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT A WORLD WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLETELY ELIMINATE CITY FUNDING, I THINK IT WOULD -- I THINK IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY DAMAGING TO OUR CITY, TO OUR PARTNERS AND TO OUR ABILITY TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF SAN ANTONIO. >> KAUR: THANK YOU SO MUCH, LAURA, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. SO I'LL JUST USE MY LAST MINUTE TO SAY, I THINK WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AS A COUNCIL AND REALIZE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $25 MILLION, WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF OF A PERCENT OF OUR CITY'S BUDGET. AND THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DOING PREVENTATIVE WORK IN OUR COMMUNITIES. SO IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING, I ABSOLUTELY THINK THAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY EXECUTE ON THAT, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE BELIEVE AND WE WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH, THE LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT REALLY ARE DOING THIS WORKDAY IN AND DAY OUT. AND SO IF YOU'RE HERE FROM A NONPROFIT, WILL YOU PLEASE STAND? THANK YOU, GUYS, SO MUCH, FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YOU GUYS ARE THE HEROES. WE JUST FOLLOW IN YOUR FOOTSTEPS, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING DAY IN AND DAY OUT FOR OUR KIDDOS AND FOR OUR UNHOUSED FOLKS AND FOR OUR FOSTER YOUTHS AND FOR OUR OLDER ADULTS, WHATEVER POPULATION YOU SERVE, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JONES: CHAIR MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE TABLE TOP EXERCISES THAT WE'LL BE PARTICIPATING IN. I REALLY JUST HAVE A LITTLE -- SMALL BIT OF FEEDBACK AND WE HAD OUR ONE-ON-ONE MEETING AND BRIEFING ABOUT THIS ITEM AND I GAVE THE SAME FEEDBACK BUT I'LL SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES FOR Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION. NUMBER ONE IS THAT THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL BE ENGAGED FURTHER SOLICITATION PROCESS FOR INPUT ON BOTHS ITS CRAFTING AND CREATION AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY AS A SCORING MEMBER, SO LONG AS THE MEMBER ISN'T ACTIVELY LIKE SEEKING FUNDING. SECOND TO THAT IS I REMEMBER DURING THE LAST CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WANT TO DISCUSS WAS THE TERM LENGTHS BEING TWO YEARS, THE CONTRACT TERMS BEING TWO YEARS, AND WHAT I FELT I TOOK AWAY FROM THAT WAS THAT THERE WAS INTEREST IN SHORTER TERM AND LONGER TERM CONTRACTS. I MAY BE WRONG IN HOW MANY PEOPLE AGENTUALLY SAID THAT, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT COUNCIL NOW SO I'D LOVE Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I HAVE WITH A FOUR-YEAR CONTRACT IS THAT THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE OUR FINAL DELEGATE AGENCY PROCESS FOR THIS COUNCIL. AND THAT DOESN'T -- THAT ELIMINATES OUR ABILITY TO BE FLEXIBLE AS NEEDS ARISE. AND THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE ANTICIPATED FINDING OUT THAT MEALS ON WHEELS WAS GOING TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL PART OF ITS FUNDING STRIPPED AWAY. SO WE WOULD THEN, AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY COULD, WORK TO ADDRESS THAT. SO AS THE YEAR -- SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY THAT I WOULD STILL PITCH A ONE-YEAR AND THREE-YEAR CONTRACT, ONE YEAR WOULD ALLOW US FOR MAYBE -- AND EVEN FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER CONTRACTS, WE ALLOW IT TO BE ONE YEAR, AND THAT ALLOWS US TO, AS WE RECEIVE REQUESTS FROM A HOST OF NONPROFITS, SPECIFICALLY SMALLER ONES WHO HAVE MAYBE MISSED OUT ON THEIR OPPORTUNITY OR WERE DAUNTED BY THE TASK OF COMPLETING THE APPLICATION, IT ALLOWS US TO SAY, HEY, NEXT YEAR APPLY FOR THIS PROCESS. WHEREAS IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A FOUR-YEAR CONTRACT, WE HAVE TO SAY -- WHAT YEAR IS IT NOW -- NOVEMBER 2029, LOOK OUT FOR THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME FUNDING. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OR FAIR, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S CONDUCIVE TO OUR NEEDS A A COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY FULFILL THROUGH OUR CORE CITY SERVICES. WE RELY ON NONPROFITS TO DO SO MUCH OF THAT WORK. THE LAST BIT, I THINK, IS MORE ABOUT THE BROADER -- THE BROADER COMMUNITY THAT'S SERVED AND WHAT I THINK SOME OF THIS FUNDING ACCOMPLISHES. AND WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF THIS IS CRIME PREVENTATIVE IN NATURE, R AND SO I WOULD ASK -- I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT FOR OUR HOT [00:45:02] SPOT CRIME PREVENTION PLAN, IF MARIA VILLAGOMEZ OR VARGAS WOULDN'T MIND... WHERE ARE WE AT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IN THE PLAN? ARE WE -- AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S KIND OF TIERED, SO THERE'S PHASE 2 AND PHASE THREE FOR DIFFERENT AREAS OF TOWN, BUT WHERE ROUGHLY ARE WE WOULD YOU DESCRIBE? >> VILLAGOMEZ: SO PHASES 1 AND 2 ARE ACTIVE. SO PHASE 1 IS A HOT SPOT POLICING. PHASE 2 IS THE -- WHERE WE FOCUS WITH, IN THIS CASE, APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT THEY HAVE HIGH CRIME AND THE HOT SPOT POLICING WAS NOT A SOLUTION TO REDUCE THAT CRIME. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES RIGHT NOW, AND THEN PHASE THREE, WHICH IS FOCUSED DETERRENCE, WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT IN 2026. I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE AS WE'RE DOING THE PLANNING PROCESS, BUT THAT'S THE PLAN RIGHT NOW. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: WHAT IS THE BUDGET FOR THAT PHASE? >> VILLAGOMEZ: SO FOCUSED DETERRENCE DOES NOT HAVE A BUDGET FOR THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAW ON MELODY'S PRESENTATION WAS THROUGH THIS COMPETITIVE PROCESS, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEEK NONPROFITS THAT CAN SUPPORT THAT WORK, SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT PHASE, WE CAN CALL ON THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP -- HOPEFULLY HELP US WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: AND THAT MONEY IS SPLIT BETWEEN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION AS WELL AS FINANCIAL SECURITY AND EDUCATION, ALL THREE OF THOSE CATEGORIES HAVE ABOUT 1.9 MILLION ANTICIPATED? >> VILLAGOMEZ: YES. AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR THAT PROCESS, BUT IT WILL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THOSE THREE PILLARS THAT YOU MENTIONED. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: MY CONCERN IS THAT -- AND WHEN WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THIS PLAN AND IN THE MOST RECENT BRIEFINGS, I BELIEVE THAT WE RECEIVED AT PUBLIC SAFETY, THERE WAS ABOUT THREE TO $4 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR THOSE INTERVENTIONS FOR BOTH PHASE 2 AND PHASE THREE, AND IT'S BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY CUT. AND NOW SPLIT BETWEEN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WITHIN THIS PROCESS. SO I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO -- WHAT I WANT TO SEE -- WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT IS WE MADE THE PROMISE TO OUR -- OUR COUNCILMEMBERS MADE A PROMISE THAT WE WERE GOING TO PUT A POLICE OFFICER ON EVERY STREET, WE WERE GOING TO HIRE 3,000 WITHIN THE NEXT SIX DAYS AND WE WERE GOING TO MOVE TO PHASE 2 AND PHASE THREE. PHASE 2 AND PHASE THREE, WE ALSO MADE PROMISES AS A PART OF THIS PLAN THAT WE WERE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND WE'VE NOW SEEN THAT FUNDING GET CUT PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY, AND SO HOW CAN WE UTILIZE THE DELEGATE AGENCY PROCESS AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PARTNERING WITH TO BE NIMBLE IN THEIR OPERATIONS TO -- AS A HOT SPOT IS IDENTIFIED, AS A POTENTIAL FOR PHASE 2 AND PHASE THREE, HOW DO WE ENGAGE THEM AND TARGET THEIR EFFORTS THERE? AND HOW CAN WE STRUCTURE CONTRACTS IN THAT WAY? >> VILLAGOMEZ: YES. SO PHASE 2, COUNCILMAN, THE MAJORITY OF THE P PARTICIPANTS ARE CITY DEPARTMENTS. WE HAVE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES, DHS, METRO HEALTH TO HELP US IDENTIFY OR ADDRESS SOME OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT PERHAPS IS CREATING CRIME IN THOSE AREAS. WHERE WE USE SOME OF THE COMMUNITY SAFETY FUNDING THAT WE'VE REALLOCATED TO STREET LIGHTING WAS TO BE ABLE TO AUGMENT SOME OF THOSE SERVICES. SO WE -- WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE WOULD NEED UNTIL WE START THOSE PROGRAMS BASED ON THE GAPS THAT WE IDENTIFY ON THOSE PROPERTIES. FOR PHASE THREE, OUR GOAL HAS BEEN TO WORK WITH NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO BE ABLE TO HELP US CONNECT INDIVIDUALS TO SERVICES WITH A GOAL OF -- THAT THEY ARE NOT COMMITTING CRIMES AGAIN, BUT WE DID NOT SET ASIDE A SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT. BACK THEN WHEN WE ALLOCATED THOSE $3 MILLION WAS WITH THE INTENT OF UTILIZING IT FOR THAT EFFORT, AND WE ENDED UP USING PROBABLY ABOUT MAYBE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT. SO ALL THAT TO SAY THAT WE FEEL THAT THE BASE AND THE CURRENT ALLOCATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENTS, WE CAN REFOCUS SOME OF THAT FUNDING TO ADDRESS PHASES 2 AND 3 OF THE CRIME REDUCTION PLAN. INCLUDING DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDING. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: GOT YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE HOT SPOT AREA IS BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE EFFORTS, NOT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING POLICE OFFICERS, RIGHT, BECAUSE ADDING POLICE OFFICERS IS CITYWIDE, BECAUSE OF THESE EFFORTS TO NOT JUST POLICE, BUT TO ALSO SUPPORT THESE COMMUNITIES, WE'RE SEEING A 22% DECREASE IN CRIME. AND PHASE THREE ALLOWS FOR THAT TO BE A LONG-TERM IMPACT THAT WE DON'T SEE CRIME UPTICK AGAIN JUST BECAUSE THE HOT SPOT IS NO LONGER DESIGNATED A HOT SPOT. SO I'D BE INTERESTED, I GUESS, IN CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING IF THE CHAIR WOULDN'T MIND AGENDIZING IT, BUT I THINK THIS FUNDING WILL ALSO PLAY A KEY ROLE INTO THAT AND I WANT US TO BE STRATEGY IN STRATEGIC IN IT AND I GUESS I JUST -- WITH PHASE -- I GUESS WHAT I AM AIMING TO SAY IS THAT [00:50:03] WITH PHASE 2, BECAUSE IT'S CITY DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, ERIK SAYS YOU DO THIS, YOU DO THIS, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. WITH OUR NONPROFITS THAT &-ÚA PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY UNLESS IT'S STRUCTURED INTO THE CONTRACT. AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY BAKED INTO THE CONTRACT SO THAT IT'S NOT -- YOU ALREADY GAVE US THE MONEY, THIS IS OUR CONTRACT, THIS IS ALL WE CAN DO AND OUR PRIORITIES ARE ELSEWHERE. I NEED US TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT IN THAT SENSE. >> WALSH: RIGHT. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT, YOUR FEEDBACK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE DO THE SOLICITATION, THAT WE BUILD INTO IT CLEAR EXPECTATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED HELP WITH PHASE THREE. AND YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY AT THE END, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS HEARING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE WE'VE CONTEMPLATED THAT, BUT I DON'T -- BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE IT A LITTLE FURTHER IN TERMS OF ACTUAL STRUCTURE, AS MUCH AS IT CAN BE. SOME OF THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED A YEAR FROM NOW, OR LESS THAN A YEAR FROM NOW, BUT WE WANT THEIR -- WE WANT THEIR ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE A BIG PART OF PHASE THREE. WE CAN DO THAT IN THE SOLICITATION. >> WOOSLEY: SURE. AND THROUGH THAT SOLICITATION, WE WOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE WANTING TO PURCHASE, BASICALLY. AND THEN THROUGH THE CONTRACTING PROCESS AND THE PERFORMANCE SCORE CARD THAT ALL AGENCIES ENTER INTO, THEY WOULD SPELL OUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE, WHAT SERVICE THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE, HOW MUCH, AND THAT'S HOW WE WOULD MONITOR THE PROGRAM. SO IT WOULD BE VERY DETAILED IN ENTERING INTO THOSE AGREEMENTS. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: PERFECT. I'LL CLOSE OUT MY LAST FEW SECONDS WITH -- AND I DO WANT TO ADDRESS, I THINK, THE MAYOR'S POINT, RIGHT, SHE WAS ASKING FOR US TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY THAT SOME FUNDING IS POSSIBLE TO BE USED TO CLOSE OUR BUDGET DEFICIT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AND TO START THINKING ABOUT THESE THINGS LONG TERM. I DO WANT TO PLACE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRUST IN ERIK THAT WE GIVE DIRECTION AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE WORLD, RIGHT, BUT WE ALSO PLACE A CERTAIN TRUST IN YOU THAT IF OUR DEFICIT IS GOING TO GROW, YOU LET US -- SOME DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GIVING IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH OUR FINANCIAL FORECAST AND OUR PLAN, THAT YOU ARE MAKING DECISIONS IN THAT WAY. AND SO I DON'T -- I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS GO TOWARDS THAT. >> MAYOR JONES: WE DON'T HAVE TO DO TRUST. WE CAN DO TRUST AND VERIFY. THAT'S THE COUNCIL. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: BOTH THINGS. >> MAYOR JONES: ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. >> WALSH: WELL, SO -- ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK -- I MENTIONED IT A SECOND AGO, WE HAVE A PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR THIS YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVE PROJECTED -- AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET DOCUMENT, PLANNED FURTHER REDUCTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED. THAT ASSUMES NO CHANGES TO ANYTHING OR THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CYCLES CONTINUE, NO CHANGES IN THE TAXABLE VALUES, SALES TAX, SO FORTH. AND WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR THAT DURING THE YEAR, AND THAT FIRST REPORT IS AT THE END OF DECEMBER. WE'LL DO THE END-OF-YEAR FINANCIAL UPDATE REPORT. THAT WILL BE, IN MY MIND, A REALLY KEY METRIC TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT SO FAR IN THE FIRST PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AND HOW WE CLOSED OUT THE YEAR. AND I -- I APPRECIATE IT, COUNCILMAN. I WILL LET YOU GUYS KNOW AND KEEP YOU GUYS UPDATED, BUT WE HAVE A -- WE HAVE A BALANCED 2027 PLAN, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME CHANGES AND WE'LL UPDATE IT, WE'LL MONITOR IT, WE'LL PUT IT BEFORE YOU GUYS NEXT YEAR, BUT I -- I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT A PATH LAID OUT AHEAD OF US, AND AS LONG AS WE STAY SOMEWHERE NEAR THE PATH, WE'LL BE FINE. WE'RE -- THERE'S GOING TO BE HARD DECISIONS, BUT -- BUT THAT'S THE KEY PART ABOUT A TWO-YEAR BALANCED BUDGET PLAN AND THAT FINANCIAL POLICY, BECAUSE IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF A LOOK AROUND THE CORNER AND MAKES SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED. AND IF WE'RE NOT PREPARED ENOUGH, IN DECEMBER, I'LL LET YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL MAKE FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT WE STAY AHEAD. >> MAYOR JONES: BUT, CHAIR, YOU BRING UP -- I MEAN, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHY WE'RE DOING ALL OF THIS. SO THERE IS A PLAN, BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS OPTIONS IN EVERY PLAN IS LIKE, OKAY, WELL, IF THIS HAPPENS, OR ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T THINK THE CUTS WERE GOING TO BE AS BAD, OR WE DIDN'T THINK WE WOULD SEE SOME OF THESE AS SOON AS WE ARE. AGAIN, WE SAW THE MEALS ON WHEELS CUTS THIS MORNING. WE WEREN'T ANTICIPATING THAT AS SOON AS WE'RE SEEING IT. SOME OF THESE THINGS IT'S REALLY ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT ARE THE RANGE OF OPTIONS AT OUR DISPOSAL, IF THE PLAN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW IS NO LONGER VALID, RIGHT? WELL, NOW WE KNOW IT'S -- WE CAN LOOK HERE, WE CAN LOOK IN OTHER PLACES, BUT REALLY THIS IS ALL ABOUT GIVING OURSELVES AS MUCH AWARENESS OF WHERE WE HAVE -- [00:55:01] AUDIO] -- IF WE WANT TO DO THOSE, RIGHT? AND I THINK THE EARLIER WE UNDERSTAND THOSE OPTIONS THE BETTER AS THINGS ARE CHANGING IN OUR ECONOMY VERY, VERY QUICKLY. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, FOR ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TODAY AND DO THIS WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY. THIS PRESENTATION, A LOT OF IT, I THINK, I FEEL REALLY GOOD WITH THINKING ABOUT THE CONTRACT CHANGES, THE LENGTH OF THE YEARS, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT CHANGES AS WELL. EVEN JUST THE CATEGORIZATION THAT WE'RE DOING, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS IN ON, WHAT WE'RE CAN SUPPORT, KIND OF ADDRESS THE ISSUE BUT MAYBE FULLY SUPPLEMENT THE WORK WE'RE DOING IN HOUSE HERE, AND, OF COURSE, THE FOCUS ON SERVING VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. MELODY, I KNOW WE SPOKE YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS A LIT, WITH THE FOUR-YEAR CONTRACT TERM, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, THOUGH, IF A CONTRACT WASN'T RENEWED IN TWO-YEAR, THREE-YEAR, WITHIN THAT CONTRACT PAYMENT. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THAT MONEY, WOULD WE REOPEN THE BID OR WOULD WE WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT -- >> WOOSLEY: NO, WE WOULD HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS. WE COULD REALLOCATE WITHIN THE CURRENT AGENCIES, IF WE HAD AN AGENCY THAT WAS EXCEEDING THEIR GOALS AND NEEDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING, OR WE COULD POTENTIALLY FUND A PROGRAM THAT WASN'T FUNDED, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE A COMPETITIVE APPLICATION. >> WALSH: COUNCILMAN, WE WOULD LINE THAT UP WITH THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. >> GALVAN: GOT IT. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M STUCK ON WITH THIS IS THINKING ABOUT HOW WE MEASURE MOVING THE NEEDLE, RIGHT? HOW DO WE MEASURE ADDRESSING THE ISSUES AT SCALE, RIGHT? OF COURSE, UNDERSTANDING THAT FUNDING'S LIMITED ACROSS THE BOARD FOR OURSELVES, FOR NONPROFITS AND THEN -- YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S IT, FOR THE ECOSYSTEM AFTER ALL. MY CONCERN IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THIS WORK AT SCALE, THAT WE'RE MAKING SERIOUS DENTS IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, IN POVERTY, IN HOMELESSNESS. THAT WE'RE SEEING THOSE ISSUES BE FULLY ADDRESSED TO A POINT. AND SO I GUESS -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARILY WITHIN THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OR WITHIN THE CONTRACT ITSELF, AND MAYBE IT IS, BUT MELODY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY PERSPECTIVE ON HOW DO WE MEASURE THE STATUS OF POVERTY, HOW DO WE MEASURE THE STATUS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY RELEVANT TO THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND THE WORK THAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE CITY. IS THAT WITHIN THE ANNUAL REPORTS, IS IT WITHIN THESE CONTRACTS OR IS IT IN A DIFFERENT SORT OF ANALYSIS? >> WOOSLEY: SORT OF A DIFFERENT PROCESS. AS FAR AS THE DELEGATE AGENCIES ARE CONCERNED, THEY ALL HAVE A PERFORMANCE SCORE CARD. WE MONITOR TO THAT SCORE CARD AND TO THEIR COMPLIANCE WITH CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS, INVOICING REQUIREMENTS, THAT'S THE STANDARD MONITORING PROCEDURE. >> GALVAN: RIGHT. >> WOOSLEY: SEPARATELY, WE HAVE A SOCIAL DEMOGRAPHER THAT PUTS OUT THAT POVERTY INFORMATION AND DOES THAT THROUGH HER RESEARCH IN CONNECTION TO CENSUS DATA, AS WELL AS SOME SURVEYING. >> GALVAN: GOT IT. AND THAT'S HELPFUL, BECAUSE I THINK -- I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL -- I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING THE BUDGET -- OR MAYBE IT WAS DURING A DIFFERENT COMMITTEE MEETING, THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN REVIEW THAT DATA PRETTY FREQUENTLY, AND, OF COURSE, IT TAKES A WHILE. DEMOGRAPHY CHANGES AT DIFFERENT PACES, OF COURSE, BUT TO SEE THE DEPTH OF CHANGES THAT WE'RE SEEING THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. IT'S TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, ARE WE USING THESE RESOURCES TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES, NOT ONLY WITHIN THIS POT OF FUNDING, OTHER POTS OF FUNDING, TOO, TO WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY COMMITTING TO THAT LARGER SYSTEMIC GOAL OF ADDRESSING WHATEVER ISSUE WE'RE FOCUSING IN ON. I THINK TO COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ POINT, THE PHASE THREE, THE ISSUES THAT RELATE TO PUBLIC SAFETY, LIKE POVERTY, LIKE EDUCATIONAL NEEDS, LIKE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, I -- WHAT I DON'T WANT US TO GET STUCK IN AS A CITY AND ENTITY OR AS EVEN A COLLABORATIVE ORGANIZATION WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IS I DON'T WANT TO SEE US GET STUCK TRYING TO SERVE -- AND IT FEELS AWFUL FOR MYSELF TO THINK ABOUT THIS, SOMEONE WHO'S A UNIVERSALIST TO TRY TO SERVE EVERYONE WHEN WE CAN'T AND TRYING TO STILL MEET THESE NEEDS IN A CERTAIN AREA, RECURRING POPULATION OR A CERTAIN TARGET AREA AND REALLY SEE MOVEMENT IN THE AREA, WE SOLVE THE ISSUE, WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. I UNDERSTAND SOLVING POVERTY'S DIFFICULT, I UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS ARE DIFFICULT, BUT I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I STRUGGLE WHEN I LOOK AT NOT ONLY THIS POT OF FUNDING BUT OVERALL THE WORK THAT WE DO HERE IS WHAT IS THE COST BENEFIT HERE OF GIVING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OR A MILLION DOLLARS TO THIS ORGANIZATION AND WE'RE STILL SEEING THAT [01:00:02] STRUGGLE. WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER WITHIN THE COLLABORATION OR IN SYSTEM--WIDE IMPROVEMENTS OR WITHIN POLICY MAKING OR ONE-STOP SHOPS OR OTHER KIND OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE NEEDED AT A UNIVERSAL SCALE OR A LARGER SCALE TO REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE AT HAND. BUT OVERALL, AGAIN, I THINK THIS KIND OF -- THESE CONTRACT TERMS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HELPFUL WITH THAT, RIGHT, MAKING SURE THAT THE FUNDING IS A BIT HIGHER, SO WE CAN REALLY PUSH A LITTLE FURTHER ON THIS, I THINK, WILL BE HELPFULMENT AND I THINK IT WILL JUST COME DOWN TO NOT REPORTING, REPORTING, YES, IS ALWAYS HELPFUL, BUT LOOKING AT THE LARGER AND BROADER DATA TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE MAKING DENTS IN THESE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW SOMETHING, MELODY, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT, TOO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE BUDGET, TOO, MAYBE WE DID, BUT THINKING ABOUT THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, TOO, ABOUT SOME OF THIS WORK, NOT EVERYTHING HERE, NOT THINKING ABOUT BRINGING ANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS' WORK IN-HOUSE FULLY, BUT UNDERSTANDING ARE THERE STRUCTURES WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION THAT COULD DO SOME OF THAT WORK, MAYBE IT'S A WORK WE COULD DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER, TO BE A BETTER PARTNER, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN-HOUSE, BECAUSE THE PROGRAMMING HERE IN OUR CITY, BUT ALSO THE BENEFIT, RIGHT, TO DO THAT AND LET OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS DO ANOTHER PART OF TO WORK THAT THEY'RE FOCUSED IN ON MORE SO. MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT MAYBE A COMMENT, IF WE CAN DO SOME OF THE RESEARCH INTO THAT I THINK IT CAN BE HELPFUL. >> WOOSLEY: WE WILL REGROUP AND WORK ON THE COST OF THAT, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD RESPONSE. >> GALVAN: NO, NOT A PROBLEM. AND I THINK THAT WILL COME, FROM, TOO, COORDINATION FROM THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THE ECOSYSTEM, THE LANDSCAPE OF WHATEVER ISSUE WE'RE LOOKING AT AND IS IT THE BEST MOVE RIGHT TO GIVE THE FUNDING HERE OR COULD WE DO SOMETHING IN-HOUSE THAT COULD BETTER ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AT SCALE, DEVELOPMENT IN HOUSING, PROVIDING ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE, IS IT DOING WORK WITHIN THE SA FORWARD PLAN, WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO HERE THAT MAYBE WE CAN USE SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT WAY OR OTHER PARTS THAT WAY, SO WE CAN REALLY GET AT THE ROOT OF THE ISSUE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE I THINK ALLOT OF MY FOCUS COMES FROM FROM THIS. I THINK I'LL STOP THERE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN ALDARETE GAVITO? >> GAVITO: THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THIS PRESENTATION, MELODY. I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TODAY. I ADMIRE THE WORK OF THE NONPROFITS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HAVING PREVIOUSLY SERVED A AS AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A NONPROFIT, TRUST ME, I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES. THE SWEAT, BLOOD AND TEARS THAT YOU POUR INTO YOUR PURPOSE AND THE NONPROFIT'S PURPOSE, SO THANK YOU TO ALL THE NONPROFITS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE SAID THAT THE CITY BUDGET CAN'T BE ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE, AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN GALVAN AND HIS POINTS IN THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE AN UNLIMITED BUDGET, RIGHT? AND WE DO NEED TO BE STRATEGIC ON HOW WE ARE SPENDING IT AND SEE -- AND FIGURING OUT A WAY WE CAN SEE HOW WE ARE MOVING THE NEEDLE. BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST BE GIVING TO, YOU KNOW, SO MANY NONPROFITS AND NOT SEEING ANYTHING CHANGE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, JUST AS FOUNDATIONS WOULD DON'T THAT, RIGHT? LAURA, I APPRECIATED YOUR COMMENTS, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONVERSATION POINTS WHEN I MET WITH SA TO SA, THERE ARE A LOT OF NONPROFITS, PROBABLY TOO MANY, AND WE HAVE A SMALL CORPORATE BASE, WE HAVE A SMALL FOUNDATION BASE, RIGHT, SO WE'RE ALL GOING -- NONPROFITS ARE ALL GOING AFTER THE SAME DONORS AGAIN AND AGAIN. AND SO I DO THINK -- I'M INTERESTED IN Y'ALL'S MAPPING EFFORTS, SO THAT WAY WE CAN SEE, OKAY, WHO IS GOING TO TAKE THE BALL ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WHO IS GOING TO TAKE THE BALL ON SOLVING X, Y, Z ISSUE IN HOMELESSNESS, WHO IS GOING TO TAKE THE BALL ON HELPING OUR HOMELESS YOUTH OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE CAUSE IS. AND I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR US TO PAUSE AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE STRATEGIC GOING FORWARD, NOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, RIGHT? THERE ARE A LOT OF CUTS, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE NEWS ABOUT MEALS ON WHEELS, AND SO THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO TAKE A PAUSE AND SAY, HOW IS THE CITY BEING STRATEGIC, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL AND THE FOUNDATIONS TO SAY, LET'S BE SMARTER WITH THE DOLLARS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO ALL HAVE TO TIGHTEN OUR BELTS, YOU KNOW? AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A WORTHY EXERCISE. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I DID WANT TO JUST ADD, MELODY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR SOME SPECIFIC FEEDBACK ITEMS, I AM ON BOARD WITH CONTINUING TO MAKE SURE A MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING IS GOING TO THE ESSENTIAL [01:05:01] SERVICES. I'M ALSO ON BOARD WITH MOVING UP PARTNERSHIP TO THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS. AND AS OPPOSED TO STAYING ON THE DESIGNATED FUNDING LIST. AS FAR AS MOVING TO A FOUR-YEAR COMPETITIVE CONTRACTS, I'M GLAD COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE I AM, TOO, HESS STANT ABOUT THAT. I -- HESITANT ABOUT THAT. I UNDERSTAND FROM A NONPROFIT PERSPECTIVE, YOU WANT THAT RUNWAY, SO YOU CAN PLAN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, TOO, IT'S -- IT'S SENSITIVE JUST BECAUSE WE -- YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE -- I FEEL THAT ONCE WE'RE, THE CITY, WE'RE LOCKED IN ON A FOUR-YEAR CONTRACT, THERE'S LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM, IF ANY, TO GET OUT OF IT. YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES A -- I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND THE RIGHT WORD, BUT MAYBE A NATURAL RELATIONSHIP, AND IT'S HARD TO CHANGE IT. AND IT'S DISRUPTIVE IF, IN FACT, WE DO DECIDE TO CHANGE IT. I APPRECIATED -- YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US THOUGHT THAT ANY NONPROFIT IS JUST SITTING THERE WAITING FOR FULL CITY FUNDING. I KNOW THAT SOME NONPROFITS GET A CHUNK OF CITY FUNDING, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING AND BEING CRYSTAL CLEAR ABOUT MATCH FUNDING. HEY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET $100,000 FROM THE CITY, YOU BETTER GO GIEND $100,000 SOMEWHERE ELSE. I DO ALSO THINK MAYBE FOR OUR DISCRETIONARY FUNDING, WE PUT SOME SET CLAUSES IN, YOU KNOW, AND SAY, HEY, THE CITY WILL WORK WITH YOU FOR THREE YEARS, MAYBE 60% THE FIRST YEAR, 40% THE SECOND YEAR, 20% THE THIRD YEAR, SO PROPER EXPECTATIONS ARE SET WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS AND THE WHOLE TEAM. I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THIS, BUT I DO THINK THAT, AGAIN, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SA TO SA OR NONPROFIT COUNCIL, WE NEED TO SEE HOW WE ARE BEING STRATEGIC HOLISTICALLY WITH NOT ONLY THE FUNDING THAT'S EXIST TANT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, BUT THE CITY FANTING AS WELL. SO THAT WAY -- BUT THE CITY FUNDING AS WELL. SO WE MAKE SURE OUR MONEY IS GOING FURTHER AND MORE IMPACTFUL TO THE COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN SPEARS? >> SPEARS: THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I AGREE WITH THE COUNCILWOMAN'S POINT ABOUT THE U SUNSETTED OF SOME OF THE NONPROFITS. THE GOAL IS TO SEE THE NONPROFITS BE SELF-SUSTAINING, I THINK. I'M CURIOUS -- I NOTICED THAT ONE OF THE ITEMS ON SLIDE 9 WAS ENSURING THAT THE AGENCY MATCH REQUIREMENT IS NO MORE THAN 50%, BUT HERE WE'RE HEARING THAT MOST OF THEM ARE ONLY USING 7 TO 8%. I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I QUESTION IF THAT'S ACCURATE. >> WOOSLEY: THAT'S ACCURATE. WE SET THAT LIMIT TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AGENCIES WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THEIR FUNDING IS COMING FROM THE CITY, BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN AS WE MONITOR THAT REQUIREMENT IS THAT MOST OF THEM REALLY ARE FAR BELOW THAT. >> SPEARS: THAT'S JUST A WIDE BERTH TO ME. I WANT TO TOUCH ON YOUR POINTS AND MAKE SURE AND GET THAT TO YOU, BUT I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DETERMINE THE CORE FUNCTIONS FOR THE CITY AND THOSE ARE NONNEGOTIABLE ITEMS THAT WE, I THINK, CAN MOSTLY AGREE ON THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS HERE IN THE CITY. AND -- BUT I -- I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT THE FOUR-YEAR PROCESS. I JUST -- WE CAN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF COMMITMENT THERE. IT MAKES ME NERVOUS EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT. AND I DO THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A FEW AREAS THAT NEED TO BE DESIGNATED, BUT -- AND THEN THEY'LL DO THAT ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. I DON'T THINK I AGREE WITH THE INCREASE FROM 50 TO 100,000. I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO EVALUATE EVERYBODY. AND I'M STILL PUZZLED ABOUT THIS MATCH REQUIREMENT. WHY IS IT EVEN THERE, IF IT'S WAY FAR LESS? BUT I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR SPREADSHEET, AND I'M SEEING MANY AREAS WHERE IT'S JUST CLEAR THERE HAS TO BE WAYS WE CAN CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THESE NONPROFITS. I THINK EVERY ONE OF THEM IS DOING WORTHY WORK. IT'S JUST HOW CAN WE COMBINE EFFORTS WITH THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL, WITH THE COUNTY, WITH THE SUBURBAN CITIES, LIKE THERE IS CHURCHES, THEY'RE SO THERE'S JUST GOT TO BE WAYS WE CAN COLLABORATE AND COMBINE THINGS BETTER. I DON'T SEE MENTAL HEALTH ON HERE AS A MAIN FOCUS, AND THAT IS ALL WE ARE HEARING IN OUR SOCIETY ON A DAILY BASIS AS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON. AND I DON'T SEE IT ANYWHERE. [01:10:06] I SEE IT WITHIN SOME PROGRAMS BUT -- >> WOOSLEY: IT'S PART OF THE HOMELESSNESS BUCKET AND STRENGTHENING AS WELL. >> SPEARS: RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT OVER THE BUDGET. AND IT IMPACTS ALL THESE AREAS, I THINK. BUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD COMING OUT OF IT. I NOTICED THAT ON SLIDE 4 THAT WE HAVE 40% OF OUR HUMAN SERVICES ALLOCATIONS TO HOMELESSNESS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE $26 MILLION HOMELESS SERVICES DEPARTMENT BUDGET . IS THERE A WAY TO EVALUATE WHAT WE CAN BE ABSORBING INTO THE DEPARTMENT TO BE ALLOCATED INTO OTHER AREAS? >> WOOSLEY: THAT FUNDING IS INCLUDED IN THE HOMELESS DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET. >> SPEARS: OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DOING MORE ON OUR SIDE OF PREVENTION, INSTEAD OF POST-INTERVENTION, POST-ABUSE INTERVENTION. I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I NOTICED WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE HOMELESS POPULATION, WE'RE SEEING 8% OF OUR BUDGET GOING TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION IN OUR DESIGNATED AGENCIES. BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT'S A HUGE PORTION OF OUR HOMELESS POPULATION AS WELL. I JUST THINK THAT'S BACKWARDS. WE NEED TO ADDRESS -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DISPARITY THERE. >> WOOSLEY: REALLY, JUST A QUICK NOTE. THE METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT ALSO HAS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INITIATIVE AS WELL AS SOME FUNDED AGENCIES. TOGETHER WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. >> SPEARS: I APPRECIATE SO MUCH WHAT YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING, MAYOR. I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF GOOD POINTS ABOUT WE LOOK AT HOW WE CAN CLOSE SOME OF THAT DEFICIT FUNDING AND REALLY EVALUATING HOW THESE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT AND HOW EFFECTIVE THEY ARE. AND GO WITH THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND JUST -- I THINK THAT'S -- IT JUST FEELS SO OVERLY COMPLICATED TO ME WHEN I'M LOOKING AT ALL THESE VARIOUS AGENCIES, ALL DOING WORTHY WORK, BUT WHO'S DOING THIS THE BEST? AND DO WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED HERE? AND CAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR SUPPORT THIS? WHICH ONES REALLY ARE US THAT WE NEED TO BE HELPING WITH AND FALL UNDER THAT UMBRELLA. I HATE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE EVERYONE'S DOING WORTHY WORK BUT IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIVE PEOPLE DOING THE SAME JOB IN DIFFERENT OFFICES, THAT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO SAY, HERE. TAKE THESE PEOPLE'S TAX DOLLARS AND WE'RE ALL DOING THE SAME WORK IN DIFFERENT AREAS. AND I DEFINITELY THINK, BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL CUTS, COMBINING OUR EFFORTS WITH THE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES AROUND US IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL. SO, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE NONPROFITS, THOUGH. I SEE YOU. I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING HARD. YOUR HEARTS ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND YOU HAVE GENUINE INTEREST IN HELPING YOUR COMMUNITY. SO IF I SEEM CALLOUS, IT'S NOT. IT'S JUST CONCERN FOR HOW OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING USED AND BEING WISE ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE THE KING OF OUR CASTLE, WE JUST NEED TO GET THE WORK DONE. THAT'S THE EFFORT I WANT TO LEAVE US WITH. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: MELODY, MAYBE JUST TO CLARIFY IN CASE IT IS RAISED BY ANY OTHERS. THE MATCHING REQUIREMENT -- THE FACT THAT THE NUMBER IS LOWER IS A GOOD THING? OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. >> WOOSLEY: IT IS GOOD. >> MAYOR JONES: GOT IT. COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE. >> WHYTE: THANKS. I'LL BE BRIEF AND JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES. I AGREE WITH THE COUNCILWOMAN. IT'S FAR TOO COMPLICATED. THERE'S TOO MUCH GOING ON. WE DO NEED TO SIMPLIFY EVERYTHING. AND THE HOMELESS EXAMPLE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE BECAUSE UP THERE -- I THINK IT'S $10 MILLION OUT OF THE DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDING IS GOING TO HOMELESS. RIGHT, MELODY, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE HOMELESS HOTEL, RIGHT? THAT'S FROM A DIFFERENT FUNDING BUCKET. SO THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT FUNDING BUCKETS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE AROUND. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW MUCH ARE WE ACTUALLY SPENDING ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. HOW MUCH ARE WE ACTUALLY SPENDING ON HOMELESS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MONEY [01:15:03] FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS TOGETHER SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN GET AN ACCURATE PICTURE OF TOTALLY WHAT WE'RE SPENDING ON -- TOTAL WHAT WE'RE SPENDING ON EACH ISSUE. SO THAT'S ONE. I AGREE AS WELL, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE WE HAVE HAD A REALLY, IN MY OPINION, POOR WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT IN MY FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE. SO TO THE EXTENT WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY OR SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING CITIES TO HELP ATTACK SOME OF THESE ISSUES, ESPECIALLY THE HOMELESS ISSUE BEING A GOOD ONE WHERE WE COULD COLLABORATE, I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT TOO. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNCILMAN AND MY COLLEAGUES ON NOT DOING THE FOUR YEARS. YOU WERE NICE ENOUGH TO SEND ME SOME INFORMATION AFTER OUR MEETING THE OTHER DAY. SO WE FUND ABOUT 80 OF THESE DELEGATE AGENCIES A YEAR, RIGHT? AND SO YOU GAVE ME THE INFORMATION OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. SO 400 -- I KNOW IT'S NOT 400 DIFFERENT AGENCIES -- BUT 400 TIMES WE HAVE FUNDEFUNDED, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THESE DELEGATE AGENCY CONTRACTS. ONLY FIVE TIMES OUT OF THE 400 HAVE WE EVER FOUND THAT ONE OF THESE AGENCIES IS NOT PERFORMING. I'LL TELL YOU I DON'T BELIEVE OUR LUCK IS THAT GOOD. I DON'T BELIEVE OUR SELECTION PROCESS IS THAT GOOD TO WHERE WE HAVE JUST HAPPENED TO PICK GROUPS WHERE EVERYTHING IS GOING RIGHT 98% OF THE TIME. I WANT TO BE CLEAR AS WELL. THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IS AMAZING WORK. IT'S NECESSARY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IT NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO BE DONE AND TO THE EXTENT CITY COUNCIL CAN HELP WITH IT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MONITORING AND FIGURING OUT WHO EXACTLY SHOULD GET THESE FUNDS. AND EVERY DELEGATE AGENCY AND NONPROFIT THAT I TALK TO NOW, I'M ADVISING THEM I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ONE-PAGE DOCUMENTS FROM THESE GROUPS THAT SET FORTH IF THEY'VE RECEIVED FUNDING IN THE PAST, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH THAT MONEY. WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR NOW AND WHAT THEY EXPECT THE RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT TO BE. BECAUSE ALL THESE GROUPS HAVE GREAT MISSIONS. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO LOOK AT ONE OF THESE MISSION STATEMENTS FROM ANY OF THE GROUPS AND SAY WE SHOULD GIVE TO THAT ONE INSTEAD OF THAT ONE. THAT'S REALLY TOUGH TO DO. THE GROUPS THAT GET THIS LIMITED FUNDING I THINK SHOULD REALLY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR OUR CITY. I DO AGREE WITH THE SUNSETTING AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS IT SHOULD BE BUT YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR THE SAME GROUPS TO CONTINUE TO GET MONEY, I THINK WE NEED -- I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT TOO. ORGANIZATIONS USING THE FUNDING FOR DIRECT SERVICES AS OPPOSED TO ADMINISTRATIVE NEEDS. DO WE TRACK THAT? >> WOOSLEY: YES. EVERY PROGRAM PROVIDES A BUDGET AHEAD OF TIME. THEY HAVE A LIMIT OF 20% FOR ADMINISTRATION. AND WE MONITOR THAT BY LINE ITEM. >> WHYTE: OKAY. SO WE DO HAVE A LIMIT THERE. THAT'S GOOD. I GUESS ON A YEARLY BASIS DO WE LOOK AT PROGRAMS THAT ARE DISCRETIONARY VERSUS ESSENTIAL? HOW OFTEN DO WE TAKE A LOOK AND REVIEW THAT? >> WOOSLEY: SO THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE PROPOSED CATEGORIZING THINGS THAT WAY. BUT WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OPERATES AND WE HAVE AGENCIES THAT SUPPORT US IN THAT. SO THEIR METRICS ARE TIED TO OUR METRICS FOR THAT PROGRAM. NEXT LEVEL IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. GOODWILL AND AUDIO] AND WE MONITOR THEM THROUGH THEIR SCORECARD BUT ALSO OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES ARE DEPENDENT ON THEIR PERFORMANCE MEASURES, SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY SHARE SPACE. >> WHYTE: AND I SAW IN THE PRESENTATION ON SLIDE 7 AND 8 DESIGNATED FUNDING APPLIES WHEN ONLY ONE PROVIDER CAN DELIVER A SERVICE. HOW OFTEN DO WE LOOK TO SEE IF THAT'S STILL THE CASE? [01:20:05] >> WOOSLEY: SO EVERY TIME WE DO THE CYCLE, WE ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER DESIGNATED AGENCIES, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DESIGNATING AGENCIES. AND WE DO THAT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE IS NECESSARY, THAT THE SERVICE IS UNIQUE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. >> WHYTE: OKAY. AND I GUESS YOU ANSWERED THAT YOU GUYS REVIEW THESE CONTRACTS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND YOU LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE METRICS AND IF THEY'RE NOT CUTTING IT, THEY'RE GONE. AND THIS HAS HAPPENED FIVE TIMES IN THE LAST -- >> WOOSLEY: WE ACTUALLY REVIEW THEM MONTHLY. >> WHYTE: YOU REVIEW THEM MONTHLY. THAT'S REALLY WHAT I HAVE, MAYOR. I WOULD JUST STRESS AGAIN THAT WHETHER WE'RE IN TOUGH FISCAL TIMES OR NOT, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DO IS HOW WE SPEND THE PEOPLE'S MONEY. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY IS BEING USED IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES THE CITY WITH THE BIGGEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT. AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. I THINK WE CERTAINLY ALL SHARE THAT SENTIMENT. HOW WE DO THAT OBVIOUSLY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BASED ON OUR UNDERSTANDINGS OF THE NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE POINT THAT YOU RAISED THOUGH -- THIS CAME UP IN OUR PREBRIEF WITH MELODY. THIS DISTINCTION BETWEEN CORE AND DISCRETIONARY. IN THE COURSE OF THE TABLETOP WE SEE WOW, OUR SENIORS AND THOSE ON FIXED INCOME ARE REALLY GOING TO FEEL IT WHEN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE FEDERAL CUTS COME. OH, BY THE WAY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE SOME OF THESE CHANGES IN OUR BUDGET ARE GOING TO BE, IT'S REALLY GOING TO HURT OUR SENIORS. SO IT'S ALMOST THEN KIND OF A DISTINCTION THAT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S HOW DO WE SHORE UP THOSE THAT ARE IN THE MOST NEED. WHETHER YOU CALL IT CORE OR DISCRETIONARY IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE ALL JUST SAY, NO, THAT'S JUST THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE NEED TO DO, WHICH IS HELP THOSE FOLKS. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I THINK WE KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE. UNDERSTAND WHO IS GOING TO POTENTIALLY, FRANKLY BEAR THE BIGGEST BRUNT OF THE IMPACTS OF THESE CUTS AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE MAKING CHANGES IN THE SERVICES WE MAY NEED TO PROVIDE AS A RESULT OF CLOSING THE GAP. THEN WE CAN PROVIDE GOOD GUIDANCE TO MELODY AND HER TEAM ABOUT, OKAY, WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THREE CATEGORIES. BUT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE OF FRANKLY THE LACK OF RESILIENCE IN OUR OWN SYSTEM, WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SHORING UP, FOR EXAMPLE, SENIOR INDEPENDENCE. BECAUSE WE JUST SEE THAT CONTINUING TO CASCADE THE IMPACTS OF THAT AND THERE ISN'T NEARLY AS MUCH HELP IN OUR COMMUNITY OR AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. I THINK WHAT THAT WILL ALSO DO, COUNCILMAN IN THE TABLETOP, IS HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT MORE CAN THE COUNTY HELP US DO WHEN THEY ALSO LOOK AT THOSE RESULTS. YOUR POINTS ARE ALL WELL TAKEN. I THINK WE SHARE THE CONCERN ABOUT HOW WE'RE MEASURING EFFICACY AND EFFECTIVENESS. AS WE LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF THESE THINGS, THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF THE CUTS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND THE NEED TO CLOSE THE GAPS IN OUR OWN BUDGET, HOW CAN WE BEST DO THAT. AND MAYBE NOT GET SO CAUGHT UP ON HOW WE BUCKET THEM BUT MORE SO THE IMPACT THAT WE ARE HAVING. DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THAT, MELODY? >> WOOSLEY: I WAS GOING TO ADD THAT WE DO -- OUR GOAL IS TO GET THE DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED INTO THE COMMUNITY. NOT NECESSARILY TO MONITOR TO THE POINT THAT WE DECIDE NOT TO FUND THEM. SO WE PROVIDE A LOT OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME -- IF AN AGENCY IS NOT PERFORMING DURING THE YEAR, THEY'RE ON A PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND WE WORK WITH THEM TO GET THEM TO USE THE DOLLARS WITH THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THEY SET FORTH. >> MAYOR JONES: ERIK, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? >> WALSH: JUST ONE CLARIFICATION. A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT SUNSET. AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT ENTAILS. BECAUSE SUNSET TO ME MEANS THAT THE -- THERE'S A TIME LIMIT AND THE CONTRACT ENDS BUT DOES IT MEAN SOMETHING ELSE? FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP SO I WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND. >> MAYOR JONES: COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. WE'LL JUST GO AROUND. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU. I DON'T AGREE WITH SUNSETTING BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE WE WOULD HAVE A SET NUMBER OF [01:25:01] CONTRACTS THAT WE ALLOW WITH A CERTAIN AGENCY AND THEN WE WOULD NO LONGER FUND THAT AGENCY FOR X NUMBER OF CONTRACT PERIODS. >> MAYOR JONES: COUNCILWOMAN. GO AHEAD. >> GAVITO: THANK YOU. YEAH, MY INTENTION WAS MAYBE FOR OUR DISCRETIONARY NONPROFITS, WE SET THE EXPECTATION TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL BE FUNDED FROM THE CITY FOR X NUMBER OF YEARS, THREE YEARS. AGAIN, FIRST YEAR AT 60% OF WHATEVER -- >> WALSH: STAIR STEP DOWN. >> GAVITO: 20% THE NEXT YEAR AND THEN YOUR CONTRACT IS DONE. MOSTLY TO SET EXPECTATIONS FOR US AND ALSO TO THEM SO THEY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AND HOW THEY NEED TO BUILD THE REST OF THEIR PORTFOLIO. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST -- I CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE OTHER STREAMS OF REVENUE COMING INTO THEIR BUDGET . HOWEVER, THERE IS VALUE IN NONPROFITS THAT HAVE DEEP EXPERTISE DOING THIS WORK. RIGHT? SO I THINK WE NEED TO BALANCE WHO IS BEST POSTURED TO DO THIS, WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO IT, HOW MANY ACTUAL PROVIDERS DO WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT CAN DO THIS, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WORTH CONSIDERATION. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S ALSO ABOUT IMPACT AND WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO THE WORK. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON SUNSET? COUNCILWOMAN MEZA GONZALEZ. >> GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. TO ALL NONPROFITS OUT THERE SITTING HERE AND WATCHING, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. WE HAD A GREAT MEETING LAST WEEK WITH THE SA GROUP. SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF MOST OF THIS MOVING FORWARD. I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THE MINIMUM AWARD LEVEL. I'M CONCERNED WE MIGHT LEAVE SOME SMALLER NONPROFITS OUT OUT.I KNOW WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT POOL OF MONEY GROWING OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF SMALLER NONPROFITS THAT HAVE A LONG TRACK RECORD IN OUR COMMUNITY . I WAS WONDERING IF WE WOULD CONSIDER LOWERING THE OVERSIGHT FOR THOSE LOWER-LEVEL AWARDS VERSUS SIMPLY JUST INCREASING THE MINIMUM AWARD FROM 50 TO 100. >> WOOSLEY: WELL, WE ARE PLANNING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT WE MONITOR WORKING WITH THE AGENCIES TO ONLY PROVIDE THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE OUTCOMES. AS FAR AS FISCAL REQUIREMENTS, CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS, WE WOULD MONITOR THAT IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE MONITOR A LARGER CONTRACT. >> GONZALEZ: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON NOT MONITORING IN THE SAME WAY YOU WOULD A LARGER CONTRACT? SENSE. YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE REDUCE. TO SOME EXTENT WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE TO RECONCILE INVOICES AND VALIDATE. BUT I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT REDUCING TO MAKE IT EASIER ON SMALLER, LOWER-FUNDED AGENCIES. >> GONZALEZ: OKAY. GREAT. DOES A NONPROFIT -- THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL, ARE THEY COMING IN ON THAT TOO WITH THOSE SMALLER CONTRACTS AS WELL? >> WOOSLEY: WE CERTAINLY WOULD ASK THEM TO HELP US WITH THAT. >> GONZALEZ: OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S -- I HAD A QUESTION ON CHILD SAFE. CHILD SAFE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY'RE THE ONLY LOCAL PROVIDER THAT OFFERS MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PROSECUTION, MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. I KNOW WE HAVE PROVIDED FUNDING FOR THEM IN THE PAST BUT IS THERE A REASON THEY'RE NOT ON THE ESSENTIAL LIST FOR SERVICES? >> WOOSLEY: WHAT WE FUND FOR CHILD SAFE IS TRAINING AND EDUCATION. WE'RE NOT FUNDING THEIR CORE SERVICES, MULTIDISCIPLINARY SERVICES. RIGHT NOW THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE EDUCATION AND TRAINING AROUND CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT. SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE HAVEN'T RECOMMENDED THEM FOR DESIGNATION, BECAUSE OF THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE FUNDING. >> GONZALEZ: OKAY. ON SLIDE 5, THE CHILDREN AND YOUTH SUCCESS PORTION. CAN YOU PROVIDE ANY DETAILS ON THE PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER FOR JOB READINESS FOR YOUTH 14 TO 18 YEARS OLD? >> WOOSLEY: SO IT'S THE NXT LEVEL PROGRAM, YOUTH OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM, WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY SEVERAL OF THE DELEGATE AGENCIES. [01:30:04] WE ALSO PROVIDE -- I THINK GOOD SAMARITAN CENTER PROVIDES COLLEGE READINESS AND ALSO LOOKING AT MILITARY READINESS AND CAREER. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LIST BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THEM THAT HAVE COMPONENTS OF THAT. WHETHER IT'S PROGRAMS TARGETED TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT ARE PLANNING TO ENTER COLLEGE. WE ALSO HAVE THE SAN ANTONIO EDUCATION PARTNERSHIP THAT PROVIDES COLLEGE READINESS AND ACCESS SUPPORT SERVICES. >> GONZALEZ: YEAH. I THINK IF WE CAN INCLUDE SOMETHING -- I UNDERSTAND THE WORK THAT NXT LEVEL DOES, ESPECIALLY FOR AT-RISK YOUTH. IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN THINK ABOUT, A NONPROFIT OUT THERE THAT'S DOING WORK FOR THOSE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD KIDS, THOSE C STUDENTS WHO JUST NEED THAT ACCESS AND CONNECTION TO JOBS SOONER THAN LATER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN PROGRAMS LIKE THIS IN THE PAST WITH OUR SAN ANTONIO NEIGHBORHOOD YOUTH ORGANIZATION. I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH A FEW PEOPLE BUT IT'S A PROGRAM THAT DIDN'T COST A LOT OF MONEY, ABOUT $2 MILLION. IT RAN FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS IN THE CITY. AND IT WAS FOR THAT DEMOGRAPHIC OF STUDENTS, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. SO IF WE CAN JUST CONSIDER THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT'S -- I THINK WE'RE MISSING THAT KID WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT LIST. >> WOOSLEY: WE'LL PROVIDE YOU MORE DETAIL ON PROGRAMS THAT OFFER THOSE SERVICES. >> GONZALEZ: OKAY. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I HAVE HEARD FOLKS TALK ABOUT NONPROFIT THAT AREN'T SELF-SUSTAINING, BUT IS THIS MORE OF A MATTER OF INCREASING THEIR CAPACITY TO HELP US WITH WHAT WE CAN'T DO ON OUR OWN AS A CITY? >> WOOSLEY: I HAVE THINK IT'S BOTH, REALLY . WE TALKED ABOUT -- WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE MAJORITY FUNDER OF PROGRAMS IN CASE THERE IS A CHANGE. BUT ALSO WE DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE CAPACITY BUILDING AND ENCOURAGE THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, STRENGTHENING OF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT THEY CAN HELP US IMPACT CHALLENGES ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. >> GONZALEZ: I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: CHAIR VIAGRAN. >> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU. SO MY BELIEF IS THAT THE TAXPAYER IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY, WHETHER IT'S THE UPSTREAM, WHICH SOME OF THE NONPROFITS DO, WHETHER IT'S THE DOWNSTREAM. WE EVENTUALLY HAVE TO PAY. AND YOU CAN CALL IT GENERATIONAL SIN. YOU CAN CALL IT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. SYSTEMATIC THIS -- YOU CAN CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT. OF COURSE -- AND Y'ALL KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO REDLINING. YEARS AGO THIS CITY DECIDED TO DIVIDE SAN ANTONIO UP INTO SOME HAVES AND HAVE-NOTS. WHEN WE LOOK AT WHY WE HAVE SCHOOLS THAT PERFORM POORLY OR WHY WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH THEIR EMOTIONS OR WHY WE HAVE PEOPLE LIVING ON THE SOUTHSIDE THAT DIE 20 YEARS THAN THEIR COUNTERPARTS ON THE NORTHSIDE, IT IS BECAUSE LEADERSHIP IN THIS CITY MADE A DECISION GENERATIONS AGO TO DIVIDE THIS CITY UP. HERE WE ARE IN A CITY THAT HAS REPRESENTATIVES FROM ACROSS THE CITY THAT LIVE IN THESE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS SAYING HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS AND MAKE THIS RIGHT. THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE WAY IS TO USE OUR NONPROFITS. BECAUSE THE CITY CANNOT SUSTAIN A DEPARTMENT THAT THE NONPROFITS DO. SO I APPLAUD ALL OF YOU THAT ARE HERE TODAY. I KNOW Y'ALL ARE NOT IN IT FOR THE PAYCHECK. I KNOW THIS IS A CALLING FOR YOU AND A PASSION THAT YOU'VE SEEN TO WANT TO GIVE BACK. IT IS THE TENETS OF SOCIAL JUSTICE THAT MANY OF Y'ALL GREW UP WITH ME IN THE '70S HEARING ABOUT, IF YOU WERE RAISED CATHOLIC. SO HERE WE ARE AND WE'RE DOING THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT $20 MILLION MAY LOOK LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IN COMPARISON TO THIS BUDGET, IT IS NOT. SO IF WE WANT TO PREVENT OUR POLICE BUDGET FROM PASSING BEYOND THAT 66%, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S HERE AND NOW AND SAY HOW ARE WE GOING TO PRIORITIZE? HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY? HOW DO WE GET THESE NONPROFITS TO WORK TOGETHER AND CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD? I THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID LAST WEEK, MEETING AND GOING OUT TO PEOPLE. I THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE TODAY AND I HOPE THAT YOU WERE ENCOURAGED THAT YOU HEAR THIS COUNCIL IS COMMITTED TO MOVING FORWARD. BECAUSE, IF NOT, I KNOW WHAT Y'ALL CAN DO. [01:35:02] YOU CAN GO OUT INTO THE STREETS AND YOU CAN ASK THE VOTERS TO VOTE FOR A TAX INCREASE SOMEWHERE: COUNTY, CITY, STATE, TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE FUNDING YOU NEED TO GET THIS MISSION DONE. AND I WOULDN'T BLAME Y'ALL IF Y'ALL DID. BUT WE AS A CITY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE COMING TO US. THEY'RE ASKING US TO PRIORITIZE AND THE TEAM HAS COME AND BROUGHT FORWARD A PLAN AND A PLAN THAT I THINK YOU HAVE CLEARLY HEARD WE'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF THE FOUR YEARS. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ SAID IS MAYBE THE TWO YEARS. MAYBE SOME GET THREE, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT SITS ON THE DISCRETIONARY. OR TWO PLUS TWO. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT TOO. DID WE EXPECT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH MEALS ON WHEELS TO HAPPEN? WE REMEMBER THE FOOD BANK LINES DURING THE PANDEMIC. AM I HOPING THE SENIORS AREN'T GOING TO COME AND NEED MORE MONEY? I'M CROSSING MY FINGERS WE'RE GOING TO DO AS MUCH PREVENTIVE CARE AS WE CAN. BUT WHEN WE CUT DOWN THE MOTMEDICAID AND HALF OF THE SENIORS CAN'T WAIT, WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME PROBLEMS AND IT'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC. AND EVERYTHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT AS CORE SERVICES, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO INCREASE -- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR THAT. IF I HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT LOSE THEIR HOMES AND ARE ON THE STREET AND HAVING TO CAMP IN TENTS. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I'M ENCOURAGED ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE AND THE CONVERSATION. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE TABLETOPS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME FLEXIBILITY, UNDERSTANDING THAT AS CUTS COME DOWN, WE DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY IN SAN ANTONIO AND IN THE WAY THE CITY HAS BEEN CUT, WHO'S GOING TO GET HURT -- WHO'S GOING TO NEED IT MORE IN THE MORE RECENT FUTURE. I KNOW MY SENIORS, THEY'RE AT THE CENTER. THEY'RE GETTING THEIR MEALS. BUT THAT NUMBER COULD DOUBLE WHEN THEY SEE THEMSELVES LOSE THEIR SERVICES. AND I COULD SEE -- WE COULD SEE AN INFLUX AT THE SENIOR CENTERS. PARKS AND REC COULD SEE AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE BECAUSE PARENTS CAN'T AFFORD TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO AFTER SCHOOL CARE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT, UNDERSTAND THAT OUR NONPROFITS ARE -- THEY SPEND THE DOLLAR AND STRETCH THAT DOLLAR. BECAUSE I WORKED IN NONPROFITS THAT DO THAT. THEY STRETCH IT IN WAYS THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE. AND MOST OF THOSE VOLUNTEERS ARE TAKING WHATEVER THEY GET PAID AND A PERCENTAGE OF THAT IS GOING BACK INTO THE SERVICE THAT THEY'RE DOING. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD BUT I THINK IF WE COME TOGETHER AND WE START PARTNERING UP, WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET THE FUNDING IT NEEDS TO GET OUT THERE. AND I DO WANT TO SEE THE BIGGER AGENCIES THAT HAVE THE GRANT WRITERS KIND OF UMBRELLA OR THAT CAN'T APPLY FOR MUCH BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE WORKFORCE. THANK YOU FOR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR THE TIME. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ON THAT TABLETOP FRAMEWORK. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: CHAIR MUNGIA. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, GOING TO SOME OF THE POINTS COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN JUST EXPLAINED. ERIK, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE TOTAL BUDGET WAS FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS? >> WALSH: I CAN'T REMEMBER. THERE YOU GO. >> THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS $632 MILLION. PUBLIC SAFETY MAKES UP 63% OF THE GENERAL FUND. >> MUNGIA: WITH A B, RIGHT? $1 BILLION? I JUST PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE HOW MUCH OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT -- I THINK IT WAS 80-SOMETHING PERCENT ARE DOING MEDICAL CALLS OR DOING THAT TYPE OF FIRST RESPONSE. NOT NECESSARILY FIRE. AND HOW MUCH OF SAPD TIME IS SPENT ON HOMELESSNESS AND, YOU KNOW, GOING AFTER YOUNG KIDS THAT ARE COMMITTING CRIMES THAT ARE NOT IN THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. THEY ARE NOT A BIG BROTHER, BIG SISTER. I THINK THAT'S A PERSPECTIVE WE NEED TO HAVE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 SOME-ODD MILLION DOLLARS VERSUS A GROWING BILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET THAT WE CAN NEVER GO BACK ON. IT'S NEVER GOING TO DECREASE. SO I THINK THAT PERSPECTIVE IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT AND THE WORK THAT THESE FOLKS DO. I WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE [01:40:04] PRESS CONFERENCE. I WAS INVITED OUT THERE AND SPOKE, WITHOUT ANY PLANS TO DO SO, BUT JUST AMAZING TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE. WHEN I MET WITH THE FOLKS, THEY SAID WE'RE NOT HERE TO ASK YOU FOR MORE MONEY NECESSARILY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WANT A SEAT AT THE TABLE IN HELPING CRAFT HOW YOU ALL DO THIS WITH THE POLICIES. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HAVE NEVER WORKED ON A NONPROFIT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE BUT I HAVE SEEN YOU ALL DO THE WORK AND YOU DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND BE HERE. I WILL SAY I DO SUPPORT LONGER THAN TWO-YEAR CONTRACTS. I THINK ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS. THAT'S A LONG-TERM PROBLEM AND I THINK A THREE OR FOUR-YEAR CONTRACT MAKES SENSE IN SOME INSTANCES. BECAUSE THE MARKET OR THE AMOUNT OF NONPROFITS DOING HOMELESS SERVICES IS ALREADY SMALL. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A TON OF FOLKS DOING THAT WORK. IN SOME INSTANCES IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A LONG-TERM PROJECT, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE REDEVELOPING THAT DIVISION AND THAT DEPARTMENT AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO. I DO NOT FAVOR SUNSETTING CERTAIN CONTRACTS. I THINK THERE IS NO TIMELINE YOU CAN PUT ON ENDING HOMELESSNESS. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE? THERE'S NOT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THAT PERSON CAN GET OVER SOMETHING. AND SO TO SAY THAT YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE FOUR YEARS OR THREE YEARS WITH US AND THAT'S IT FOR SO MANY OTHER YEARS, I THINK IS NOT LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL FOLKS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP. AND THE LONG-TERM ISSUES. I THINK SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS, ESPECIALLY THE EDUCATION ONES, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR THERE'S KIDS WHO NEED TO GO INTO AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS AND BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS. I'M HOPING THAT AT SOME POINT WE CAN EITHER, LATER ON WITH AN INCREASED BUDGET OR MAYBE EVEN REALLOCATING WITHIN THIS FRAMEWORK THE SENIOR SERVICES DIVISION OF THE NONPROFITS. BECAUSE TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, THESE CUTS THAT ARE GOING TO COME DOWN ARE GOING TO BE DISPROPORTIONALLY AFFECTED TO THEM. AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET A SECOND JOB SOMETIMES. THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DRIVE ACROSS TOWN OR SOMEWHERE TO GET SOMETHING AT A CHEAPER RATE. A LOT OF THEM ARE HOMEBOUND. YOU KNOW, WHEN KIDS GO TO SCHOOL, THEY HAVE AT LEAST A COME OF MEALS THERE. SENIORS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY GO TO TO THE SENIOR CENTER BECAUSE OF THAT MEAL THAT THEY GET . AND HOW DO WE EXPAND OUR SENIOR CENTERS AT TIMES WHEN SENIORS ARE HURTING EVEN MORE? SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH INFLATION WHATSOEVER. AND SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE HURT AND IT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF MY DISTRICT POPULATION. SO WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE SENIOR SIDE AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP THEM. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING OR WHAT YOU NEED SOME FEEDBACK ON? >> WOOSLEY: SLIDE 9. >> MUNGIA: I DO WORRY ABOUT THE 50,000 TO 100,000 PER YEAR. I SEE THE LIST YOU ALL PROVIDED OF THE NONPROFITS THAT GET LESS THAN $100,000. THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF STUFF. I WAS GOING TO MAKE THE POINT THAT COUNCILWOMAN MEZA GONZALEZ MADE ABOUT MAYBE SOME OF THE LOWER END IS A LITTLE BIT LESS OF A THRESHOLD TO OBTAIN VERSUS, YOU KNOW, $100,000 UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS. I THINK THERE'S ROOM TO DO THAT. OF COURSE WE ALWAYS HAVE TO MEASURE THOSE THINGS BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KIND OF LOWER BARRIER FOR FOLKS TO GET INTO. THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO MENTION IS A COUPLE NONPROFITS ARE DOING SOME OF THE SAME WORK. I SAW A FEW THAT OFFER UTILITY ASSISTANCE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE AT THE CITY. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE REACHING DIFFERENT FOLKS TO GET UTILITY ASSISTANCE OR IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN HOLD THAT UTILITY ASSISTANCE MONEY AND HAVE THEM MARKET OUR PROGRAM BETTER. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME IF WE HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM -- WHICH WE HAVE A WAITING LIST FOR -- AND WE'RE GIVING THAT PROGRAM TO SEVERAL NONPROFITS. I MEAN, A LOT OF FOLKS DO FINANCIAL COUNSELING. IT SEEMS LIKE ALMOST EVERYBODY DOES NOW. NONPROFITS. AND OF COURSE I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY REEVALUATE WHAT WE'RE COLLECTING FROM NONPROFITS AS FAR AS METRICS. I HEARD IT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. I HEARD IT FROM FOLKS I HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH. IT'S A LOT OF METRICS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS [01:45:03] COLLECTED. I DON'T SEE THAT. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AND WHAT IT IS, BUT I THINK WE NEED THEM TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM AND HOW THEY MEASURE THINGS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU MEASURE A MENTORSHIP PROGRAM'S SUCCESS? OR AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM? SOME OF THIS STUFF IS TEN YEARS LATER YOU SEE THE RESULT OF THAT INVESTMENT. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A FULLY GROWN UP OAK TREE. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A SAMPLING ALL THE WAY TO THAT POINT. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT SMARTER AND FREER ON HOW WE MEASURE SUCCESS IN SOME OF THESE NONPROFITS. BUT, AGAIN, I DO THINK WE NEED TO EXTEND THE CONTRACTS IN SOME CASES, IF IT'S ANOTHER YEAR OPTION OR THREE WITH A FOURTH-YEAR OPTION. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO THEM. WHILE ALSO ALLOWING SOME SORT OF FLEXIBILITY FOR US WHEN NEW THINGS COME UP, LIKE MEALS ON WHEELS. THAT'S SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I HAVE. >> WOOSLEY: THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. JUST REAL QUICK. OFFER THE DELEGATE AGENCIES THAT ARE AWARDED, THEY PROVIDE US WITH THE MEASURES THEY WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH. WE NEGOTIATE WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T SEEM REASONABLE OR WE WANT TO MAKE TWEAKS. BUT THEY INTRODUCE THE MEASURES AND THEN WE WORK WITH THEM. WHAT WE'LL DO MOVING FORWARD IS PROVIDE A SET OF METRICS IN EACH CATEGORY THAT WE SEE REALLY PROVIDES THAT OUTCOME THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND LETS US COMPARE ACROSS AGENCIES THE RESULTS THAT THEY'RE ACHIEVING. >> MUNGIA: IF I COULD MAKE ONE QUICK POINT. SOMETHING THEY ALSO MENTIONED -- TO THAT POINT -- HAVING A DESIGNATED PERSON FOR NONPROFITS AT THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S YOU OR JESSICA THAT COULD FILL THAT ROLE. THAT IS SOMETHING TO KIND OF MENTION. >> WOOSLEY: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: MELODY, THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT LAST POINT. BECAUSE I THINK WHILE THERE IS INTEREST IN GETTING NEW PLAYERS INTO THE MARKET, IF YOU WILL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON WHAT WE CARE ABOUT, WHICH IS CAN YOU DO THE THING WE NEED YOU TO DO? THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DIMINISH THE SERVICE JUST TO ALLOW FOR MORE ACTORS TO BE IN THE FIELD. WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, ERIK? OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, MELODY AND JESSICA FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE WORK YOU ALL DO. AS WELL AS TO THE NONPROFITS PROVIDERS. IT'S WITHIN Y'ALL'S TITLE: NONPROFIT. THE WORK YOU DO IS NOT PROFITABLE AND RELIES ON FUNDRAISING FROM THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR. HAVING CITY AND/OR COUNTY FUNDING CAN HELP YOU ALL FUND RAISE, SO THE VALUE THAT THAT INVESTMENT AND THESE RESOURCES BRING, NOT JUST TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BUT THE COUNTY AS WELL. AND IN TERMS OF THE CONVERSATION OF SUNSETTING, UNTIL WE SUNSET YOUTH VIOLENCE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, FOOD DESERTS, POVERTY IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE SUNSETTING THE CONTRACTS. THESE ARE INVESTMENTS THAT WE KNOW MAKE A GREAT IMPACT. WHETHER IT'S OUR SENIORS, YOUTH, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AS THE COUNCILMAN MENTIONED, YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY GAUGE THE IMPACT IN THE SHORT TERM BUT WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO HELP KEEP OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE AND HEALTHY. THANK Y'ALL FOR THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DO. IN TERMS OF THE CONVERSATION OF TERM LENGTHS, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ AND NOT GOING UP TO THE FOUR YEARS. ALLOWING US TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY WITH THE CHANGES WE ARE GOING TO SEE. WE ARE SEEING THEM QUICKLY. AND MY EXPECTATION, AS FOLKS HAVE MENTIONED, IS THAT THE NONPROFITS THAT WE DO SELECT IN TERMS OF DIRECTION IS THEY ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE UTSA VIOLENT PLAN, THAT THEY ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SA FORWARD PLAN, AS WELL AS IN ALIGNMENT WITH ANY CITY-INITIATED PLAN HELPING TO MEET THOSE GOALS. JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT STEERING OFF. I KNOW THERE IS COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN AS WELL AND THAT STAKEHOLDER GROUP THAT MEETS AND GIVES DIRECTION. THEIR INPUT IS VERY VALUABLE. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO MEET THE NEEDS THAT COUNCIL HAS SET, WHETHER IT'S AN ADOPTED PLAN THAT WE'VE TAKEN THE INITIATIVE -- THE UTSA VIOLENT CRIME PLAN. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T ABANDON THE LAST PHASES OF THAT PLAN. IF THE ARGUMENT IS WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE 1, WE NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH HAVING THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR PHASES 3 AND 4 AS WELL. LASTLY, FOR THE MATCHING FUNDS, I GUESS CAN YOU REMIND ME, MELODY, WHAT THE PROPOSED CHANGE WAS? >> WOOSLEY: WE DIDN'T PROPOSE A CHANGE FOR MATCHING FUNDS. WE PROPOSED TO STAY AT 50%. [01:50:01] >> CASTILLO: WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, I KNOW THIS IS A CONVERSATION I HAD IN OUR BRIEFING AS WELL, IS THE EXPECTATION THAT MY CONSTITUENT SERVICES TEAM HAS THAT IF WE ARE FUNDING A NONPROFIT AND/OR DELEGATE AGENCY, IF OUR CONSTITUENT SERVICES TEAM IS CONNECTING A RESIDENT TO THAT SERVICE, THAT OUR EXPECTATION THAT A SERVICE A DELIVERED. WHETHER IT'S COMPLETING AN APPLICATION AND NOT GETTING PASSED FROM NONPROFIT OR ORGANIZATION TO ORGANIZATION. SO CAN YOU REMIND ME OR US ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACT WHAT TYPE OF COMMITMENTS WILL BE IN THE LANGUAGE? >> WOOSLEY: SO WE WILL ADD LANGUAGE, AGAIN STARTING WITH THE RFP, AND THEN THROUGH CONTRACTING PROCESSES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE THAT AGENCIES PRIORITIZE COUNCIL REFERRALS, CALLS, AND PRIORITIES. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, MELODY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JONES: CHAIR KAUR. >> KAUR: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO CHIME BACK IN TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED. FIRST I HEARD THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON METRICS AND I TOO AM VERY INTERESTED IN THIS. SO I HAD ACTUALLY ASKED FOR PREVIOUS METRICS AS THEY COMPARED TO WHAT UNITED WAY USES. UNITED WAY, A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS GET FUNDING FROM THEM. THEY REQUIRED A LOT LESS, ALMOST HALF THAN WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY. AND SO I LOOKED AT THE NEW UPDATES AND THEY LOOK MUCH STRONGER, MUCH MORE STREAMLINED. THE QUESTION THAT I STILL HAVE WHEN I RECEIVE A DOCUMENT -- JESSICA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THIS. I DIDN'T SEE THE ACTUAL GOAL. LIKE, THERE'S NOT A QUANTITATIVE NUMBER TIED TO THE CHILDREN AND YOUTH SUCCESS GOAL. >> I THINK THAT'S VERY INTENTIONAL. WE'RE COGNIZANT WE'RE USING THIS IMPACT MODEL ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE FUNDERS AROUND THE SAME STRATEGY WE'RE PROPOSING. BUT WE WANT TO HAVE RECOGNITION THAT WE ARE CONTRIBUTING VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE OVERALL FUNDING THAT GOES INTO THAT. SO NO ONE INVESTMENT IS GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THAT INDICATOR. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THROUGH COLLECTIVE IMPACT. AND SO IT'S A BACKUP SLIDE HERE THAT WE HAVE. FOR EACH OF OUR LONG-TERM OUTCOMES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMUNITY INDICATOR THAT WE'RE USING TO BENCHMARK OUR DATA AND LOOK AT THAT AS WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THAT, IF THEY ARE CONTINUED INVESTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. FOR EXAMPLE, IN CHILDREN AND YOUTH SUCCESS AND CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION, INTERVENTION, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF ALLEGED CHILD ABUSE CASES. WE HAVE THAT TARGET FOR EVERY SINGLE FUNDING PRIORITY THAT WE HAVE. IN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE KIND OF ALIGNED PRIORITIES, PARTICULARLY UNITED WAY WE'RE TRYING TO ALIGN THOSE INDICATORS AS WELL, WHERE POSSIBLE. >> KAUR: ARE WE MEASURING THOSE AT A LARGE SCALE ACROSS THE COMMUNITY? LIKE, DO WE HAVE A REPORT THAT SHOWS US WHERE WE ARE ON THIS? >> SOME OF THAT IS INCLUDED IN OUR STATUS OF POVERTY REPORT. WE DO, AS MELODY MENTIONED, HAVE A PROJECT METRIC SOCIAL DEMOGRAPHY TEAM. WE ARE COLLECTING THAT INTERNALLY FOR OURSELVES AS WE COME TO EACH PROCESS. TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL. IT WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR US TO PROVIDE THAT TO COUNCIL. >> KAUR: I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS TAKE THE METRICS THAT EACH ORGANIZATION THAT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, LIKE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ATTENDING, ET CETERA. TIE THEM UP TO WHAT THE AFTER SCHOOL CHALLENGE IS SO WE CAN SEE DIRECTLY THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE SUPPORTING THIS AFTER-SCHOOL CHALLENGE GOAL WITH THESE METRICS. SO IT MAKES IT MORE ALIGNED. SO YOU CAN SEE YOUR DIRECT OUTPUT AS IT RELATES TO THE OUTCOME, RIGHT? ON TOP OF THAT, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT A PARTNERSHIP AND THE FUNDING THEY ARE RECEIVING. THEIR FUNDING IS ACTUALLY NOT FOR DIRECT SERVICE, IT'S FOR DATA. AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF CAPABILITY TO DO DATA FOR US. SO I THINK WE CAN RELY ON THEM TO HELP US TRACK SOME OF THESE METRICS. BECAUSE THAT'S A PART OF THE MISSING PIECE THAT YOU HEARD. IT'S HARD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND HOW THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE SUPPORTING LONG-TERM CRIME PREVENTION BUT WE KNOW THAT COLLEGE CAREER AND MILITARY READINESS IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO CRIME PREVENTION. MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS I THINK WILL BETTER HELP US. >> AND THE ONLY THING WITH THAT -- JUST THE CAVEAT -- I THINK COUNCILMAN MUNGIA BROUGHT UP. LET'S SAY IN CHILD ABUSE AND PREVENTION, EDUCATION SERVICES. THAT'S NOT GOING TO DIRECTLY CORRELATE TO SOMEONE NOT HAVING A NEW CPS CASE OPENED WHEREAS A DIRECT SERVICE WOULD, WHICH WE ALSO FUND. WE WILL HAVE METRICS THAT ARE PROXY SUCH AS AWARENESS OF CHILD ABUSE RISK FACTORS OR WILLINGNESS TO REPORT THAT WE ARE HAVING AGENCIES TRACK. >> KAUR: ABSOLUTELY. AND SHOWING THAT DIFFERENTIATION WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL. TO THE POINT AROUND PARTNERSHIP. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WORK THEY'RE DOING AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT DELEGATE FUNDING -- THEY WERE DESIGNATED THERE BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT PROVIDING ONE OF THE SERVICES IN THE COMPETITIVE RFP PARTS. THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY CORRELATED TO ONE OF THOSE COMPONENTS IN THE COMPETITIVE RFP? [01:55:01] >> NO. THEY ARE THE ONLY AGENCY WE ARE FUNDING THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICES. >> KAUR: I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR FUNDING, WHETHER THIS IS THE RIGHT BUCKET AND HOW DO WE BETTER LEVERAGE WHAT THEY CAN PROVIDE FOR US, GIVEN -- BRINGING IT UP -- BUT WE DON'T HAVE SA 2020 ANYMORE TRACKING THESE ON A LARGE SCALE. HOW CAN WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO TRACK BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THEN HOW EACH FUNDER HELPS CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. AS FAR AS THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE $50,000 TO $100,000, I ALSO DEBATED THIS. WE CALLED SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE RECEIVING LESS THAN $100,000. MY WORRY WAS THIS WOULD, LIKE COUNCILWOMAN SAID, THAT DISENFRANCHISE THE SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE AS LARGE BUDGETS. WHAT I'VE REALIZED, THOUGH, IS THE FUNDING IS NOT DETERMINED BY HOW BIG SOMEONE'S BUDGET IS. IN SOME OF THE OTHER GRANT PROGRAMS THAT WE DO, WE BASICALLY SAY -- LIKE FOR ARTS, FOR EXAMPLE. ARTS FUNDING IS WE DON'T GIVE THEM MORE THAN X PERCENTAGE OF THEIR ACTUAL BUDGET. THAT'S NOT HOW THEY DETERMINE WHAT THEIR FUNDING HAS RECEIVED. THEY BASICALLY FUND BASED ON HOW MUCH MONEY IS THERE AND WHAT THEY ASK FOR. IF AN ORGANIZATION KNOWS THAT I HAVE TO ASK FOR A MINIMUM OF 100K, THEY MIGHT ASK FOR MORE BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET 100K. IT DOES, HOWEVER, MEAN THAT LESS ORGANIZATIONS GET FUNDING. SO THAT'S THE HARD PART. IF YOU CAN GIVE TWO ORGANIZATIONS 75K, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BASICALLY LIMITING THE NUMBER OFFERING'S THAT GET FUNDING. IT'S A TRICKY ONE TO ME BUT I HAVE ASKED THE ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY SUPPORT IT. SO IF THEY SUPPORT IT, I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TOO. AND THEN I LIKE THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S IDEA OF UP TO FOUR YEARS BUT GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY IF WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER RFP, WE CAN. IF THAT NEEDS TO GO TO THREE. I DO THINK KNOWING THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE THAT FUNDING IF THEY'RE MEETING THEIR OUTCOMES GIVES THEM A STRONGER SENSE OF SECURITY. THEY KNOW AS LONG AS WE'RE MEETING OUR METRICS, WE'RE GOING TO GET THE FUNDING FOR THREE TO FOUR YEARS HELPS THEM BUILD THAT SUSTAINABILITY THAT HAS BEEN SHARED AS A NEED. THANKS, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JONES: ERIK, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? >> WALSH: TWO FOLLOW-UP ITEMS. COUNCILWOMAN, ON THE UP PARTNERSHIP, AS THE DATA PROVIDER , I DO ANTICIPATE -- AND WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS THAT OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM NEEDS TO LOOK DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF ANSWERING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS Y'ALL ARE ASKING. IT CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE ALIGNED WITH THE UNITED WAY I DO THINK THAT CONTRACT NEEDS TO BE RESET AND FOCUSED ON BEING ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE LARGER QUESTIONS THAT FRANKLY MOST OF Y'ALL HAVE BROUGHT UP. SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THAT. AND THEN LASTLY, REGARDING THE TERM, I'M HEARING THAT -- WE'RE GETTING GREAT FEEDBACK ON THE FOUR-YEAR TERM. BUT I'M ALSO HEARING -- AND I WANTED TO SAY IT OUT LOUD TO MAKE SURE I WAS HEARING IT RIGHT -- THAT YOU'RE NOT OPPOSED TO A LONGER TERM BUT ONLY WITH EXTENSIONS THAT WOULD BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL BASED ON PERFORMANCE. IN OTHER WORDS, A ONE-YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO ONE-YEAR EXTENSIONS. OR A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT WITH A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION THAT JUST ALLOWS A PORT OF ENTRY FOR THE CITY TO CHECK IN ON. THAT'S AN OPTION AS WELL. THAT ALLOWS I THINK THE AGENCIES A LITTLE BIT OF CERTAINTY IF ALL THINGS STAY THE SAME. IF NOTHING CHANGES. BUT ALSO GIVES THE CITY AND COUNCIL LATITUDE TO ADDRESS ACCORDINGLY TO THINGS THAT MAY COME UP. OKAY. THANKS. >> MAYOR JONES: MELODY, WHILE WE HAVE THE SLIDE UP ON OUTCOMES AND FUNDING PRIORITIES. AGAIN, I GO BACK TO WHAT WE MAY LEARN IN THE TABLETOP, IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT MAYBE SHOULD BE A HIGHER PRIORITY IN LIGHT OF THE IMPACTS, THE RESULT OF SOME OF THOSE CHANGES. WHO DEVELOPED THE COMMUNITY INDICATORS? >> WOOSLEY: THE ONES THAT ARE UP THERE NOW? >> MAYOR JONES: YEAH. >> WOOSLEY: THESE ARE STANDARD. I THINK TO SOME EXTENT INDICATORS ON CHILD ABUSE AND SCHOOL READINESS. THEY COME FROM VARIOUS COURSES, WHETHER IT'S CPS, POLICE, OR THE STATE EDUCATION AGENCY. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU. THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT. AS WE ARE ANTICIPATING, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE YOUTH ONES HERE. THE CUTS TO CHIP AND SNAP, THOSE MAY NOT BE THE INDICATORS WE ARE MOST FOCUSED ON AS A RESULT OF THE IMPACTS OF THOSE CUTS. WHICH IS WHY WE MAY ACTUALLY --O [02:00:04] REVISIT THIS. WHAT I WILL DO, ACTUALLY -- LET ME INVITE THE NEXT PRESENTATION AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS COME BACK AROUND TO MY COLLEAGUES AND GET YOUR INPUT ON WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO THEN, AS A RESULT OF WHAT YOU THINK WE CAN GLEAN FROM THAT TABLETOP, SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHETHER WE CAN IN FACT DELAY PROVIDING GUIDANCE, NOT ON THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE SLIDE BUT JUST REALLY ON THE TIMING OF WHEN WE ISSUE THIS IN LIGHT OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE TABLETOP. THANK YOU, MELODY. >> WALSH: THANKS, MAYOR. SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE SECOND PRESENTATION. WE'VE BROKEN THIS PRESENTATION UP INTO TWO SECTIONS AND WE'LL START OFF WITH JUSTINA, WHO WILL COVER THE CURRENT FEDERAL FISCAL POLICY ENVIRONMENT AND HIGH LEVEL, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET IN TERMS OF FEDERAL DOLLARS. THEN WE'LL TRANSITION TO DEPUTY CHIEF BRIAN O'NEAL, THE CITY'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, WHO WILL PROVIDE KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE TABLETOP. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN TWO PHASES. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK DONE WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, PRE-EXERCISE WORK LATER ON THIS MONTH AND NOVEMBER. AND WE'RE SCHEDULED TO HOLD THIS SESSION IN DECEMBER. NOW, ALTHOUGH MOST OF THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM TODAY ARE CITY DEPARTMENTS -- YOU'LL SEE IN THE PRESENTATION -- WE DO BELIEVE THAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS WILL BE HELPFUL AND NECESSARY AS WE GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE. A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. ONE, WE HAVE GREAT DEPARTMENTS AND GREAT LEADERSHIP IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EITHER HUMAN SERVICES, METRO HEALTH, HOUSING. YOU KNOW, THE CITY DEALS AND RESPONDS TO CRISIS, WHETHER THEY'RE MAN MADE, THEY'RE NATURAL, OR FINANCIAL. WE DO IT WELL AS AN ORGANIZATION AND HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD. WE HAVE HAD -- AND YOU'LL SEE THE SLIDE THAT YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER FROM THE BUDGET. WE HAVE HAD SOME MINOR GRANT IMPACTS TO DATE. AND I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU AN EXAMPLE THAT'S NOT REALLY IN THE PRESENTATION BUT I THINK IS INDICATIVE OF WHAT I HOPE TO GET OUT OF THIS EXERCISE. IN THE SPRINGTIME, WE HAD A COVID-19 VACCINATION GRANT THAT WAS SCHEDULED TO END MIDDLE OF SUMMER. AND THE METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS CUTTING IT OFF A LITTLE BIT EARLY. AND PART OF THAT GRANT FUNDED OUR IMMUNIZATION CLINIC. AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DID -- AND THE IMMUNIZATION CLINIC IS CLEARLY IMPORTANT TO US AND THE COMMUNITY. AND WHAT CLAUDE AND THE DEPARTMENT DID WAS GO THROUGH AN INTERNAL EXERCISE TO IDENTIFY HOW THEY REALLOCATE WITHIN THEIR BUDGET LOWER PRIORITIES TO TAKE CARE OF A HIGHER PRIORITY. AND SO THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART OF THIS EFFORT. THAT'S ONE OF THE IMPORTANT PARTS OF THIS EFFORT IS HOW WE PRIORITIZE AND ARE PRIMED. IT'S SOMETHING I THINK THE DEPARTMENTS ALWAYS HAVE TO DO WELL AT. I THINK WE DO WELL AT. BUT IT'S AN EXERCISE AND THOSE MUSCLES NEED TO CONTINUOUSLY BE WORKED. I ALSO THINKS THIS HELPS KEEP US IN A READY TO START POSITION. NO MATTER WHAT THE INFLUENCING FACTORS ARE. THERE COULD BE A WHOLE HOST OF THEM AND FROM THAT STANDPOINT I THINK IT'S GREAT ORGANIZATIONALLY FOR US TO CONTINUE TO PRIME THAT PUMP. I THINK IT WILL ALSO RESULT, IN ADDITION TO THE THINGS THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE B SESSION, IT ALSO FITS INTO THE LENS AND THE WORK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL. AND THOSE TWO THINGS AT THE END OF THE DAY -- AND IT'S NOT ALL OF WHAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR -- AND YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT THIS AFTERNOON SO FAR. IT'S HELPING PRIORITIZE SPENDING AND RESOURCE ALLOCATION. AND IN THE MIDST OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO BE SHARP. YOU'LL SEE THIS AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. JUSTINA AND THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO PREP AND HAVE BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL AND WE HAVE INCLUDED -- AND I ASKED THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE TO LEND THEIR RIGOR TO THE EFFORT. LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. JUSTINA, GO AHEAD. >> MAYOR JONES: ONE [02:05:01] SECOND. THANK YOU, ERIK. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, AS WE LOOK AT THIS EXERCISE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GIVING OURSELVES OPTIONS, A LOT OF THAT DEPENDS ON US UNDERSTANDING THE SCALE OF THE CHALLENGE BEFORE US. SO WHEN ERIK TALKED ABOUT, HEY, WE'VE GOT A PLAN TO BUDGET THIS $150 MILLION GAP, GREAT THAT WE HAVE A PLAN. WHEN WE LOOK HERE AT THE FY26 FEDERAL GRANTS OVERVIEW, WE'VE GOT $153 MILLION IN FEDERAL GRANTS. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT POTENTIALLY GOING AWAY, THAT'S ANOTHER 150, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS TABLETOP IS SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND. BEING ABLE TO PRIORITIZE WITHIN ONE DEPARTMENT IS GREAT BUT WHEN WE SEE THESE CUTS ACROSS SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS OF A MAGNITUDE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN PREVIOUSLY AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE ALL TALKED ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FEDERAL CUTS, CHIP, SNAP, MEDICAID, SOCIAL SECURITY. IT'S NOT JUST US CLOSING OUR BUDGET GAP, WE ARE DOING THAT AT THE SAME TIME THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL HAVE LESS MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS. SO THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO BALANCE HERE AS WE PRIORITIZE WHERE WE MAY MAKE CHANGES IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING. SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING SOME THOUGHT INTO HOW WE MIGHT DO THIS WHEN WE MIGHT HAVE SOME OPTIONS. AND THEN UNDERSTANDING WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT GET FUNDED AS A RESULT OF HAVING TO MAKE THOSE VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS JUSTINA TATE. I'M THE BUDGET DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. AND AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, TODAY WE WILL BE PRESENTING ON A FEDERAL GRANT TABLETOP EXERCISE AND ITS FRAMEWORK. THIS WILL BE A TWO-PART PRESENTATION. FIRST, I'LL BE PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF THE CURRENT FEDERAL FUNDING LANDSCAPE. THEN REVIEW THE CURRENT FEDERAL GRANTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 ADOPTED BUDGET. FINALLY, I WILL TOUCH ON THE CITY'S FEDERAL GRANT REVIEW COMMITTEE. THE SECOND PART OF THE PRESENTATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY DEPUTY CHIEF O'NEAL , WHO WILL COVER THE TABLETOP EXERCISE FRAMEWORK. TODAY'S DYNAMIC FEDERAL FISCAL POLICY ENVIRONMENT CONTINUES TO EVOLVE. FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING SAN ANTONIO, HAVE NAVIGATED THROUGH NEW SPENDING TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY NEEDS AS A RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC FOLLOWED BY STRONG REVENUE GROWTH AND ALSO HISTORIC LEVELS OF FEDERAL AID. HOWEVER, THAT REVENUE GROWTH HAS SLOWED AND THE FEDERAL AID FROM THE PANDEMIC HAS CONCLUDED. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE SEEN NEW FUNDING PROPOSALS THAT COULD REDUCE FEDERAL SUPPORT TO STATES, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS. BASED ON ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATION'S TOP PRIORITIES TO REDUCE FEDERAL SPENDING, WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR THE IMPACT OF THESE REDUCTIONS TO THE CITY'S BUDGET AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACTS TO THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. THIS IS NOW MORE CRITICAL, AS THE CITY'S REVENUES HAVE SLOWED, CREATING FISCAL STRESS ON THE CITY'S BUDGET. AS A REMINDER, THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 GREW BY .8%. THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO SAN ANTONIO, AS CITIES ACROSS THE STATE ARE REALIZING THE SAME STRAIN ON RESOURCES. SO AS A RESULT OF THE POTENTIAL REDUCTIONS TO FEDERAL SUPPORT, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO ASSESS HOW FEDERAL FUNDS ARE SPENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW THE SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY MAY FARE IN THE EVENT OF THESE CHANGES. WE'LL NEED TO ASSESS THREE AREAS: THE FIRST IS FEDERAL AID UNCERTAINTY. SO HOW FEDERAL SPENDING REDUCTIONS COULD IMPACT THE CITY'S GRANT PROGRAMS AND FEDERAL AID TO THE STATE, COUNTY, HOSPITALS, AND NONPROFIT PARTNERS. SECOND IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING. HOW CHANGES TO INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS MAY REQUIRE GREATER RELIANCE ON LOCAL FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. AND FINALLY, SERVICE DELIVERY. HOW CHANGES TO FEDERAL SAFETY NET PROGRAMS MAY INCREASE DEMAND FOR LOCAL SOCIAL SERVICES, PARTICULARLY IN COMMUNITIES WITH LOW-INCOME POPULATIONS. SO IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THESE ASSESSMENTS, THE CITY, ALONG WITH KEY PARTNERS, WILL CONDUCT A TABLETOP EXERCISE THAT FOCUSES ON REDUCTIONS TO FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WOULD IMPACT THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY AND POSSIBLE RESPONSES TO THOSE REDUCTIONS. THIS TABLETOP WILL ALLOW THE CITY AND PARTNERS TO BETTER ASSESS RISK OF FEDERAL FUNDING REDUCTIONS, THE IMPACT TO OUR VULNERABLE [02:10:01] COMMUNITIES, AND DEVELOP CONTINGENCY PLANS. RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TABLETOP WILL BE MADE TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CITY AND COMMUNITY TO REMAIN RESILIENT. SO I'LL QUICKLY GO OVER THE FEDERAL GRANTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 ADOPTED BUDGET. THE TOTAL FEDERAL GRANT INCLUDED IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET IS ABOUT $153 MILLION. THIS REPRESENTS ABOUT 3.8% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET OF $4 BILLION. THESE GRANT FUNDS PROVIDE FUNDING FOR 663 POSITIONS THAT SUPPORT THESE PROGRAMS. AND THE TABLE ON YOUR RIGHT ILLUSTRATES THE GRANTS BY DEPARTMENT. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LARGEST DEPARTMENT THAT RECEIVES FEDERAL GRANT IS OUR HUMAN SERVICES AT $43.6 MILLION. THIS NEXT SLIDE PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE TYPES OF SERVICES THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY OUR FEDERAL GRANTS. ABOUT ONE-THIRD OF OUR GRANT SUPPORTS CHILD AND YOUTH SERVICES. WITH THE NEXT LARGEST GRANT COMPRISED OF AIRPORT AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE AIRPORT, HOUSING, AND HOMELESS SERVICES, AND PUBLIC HEALTH. THESE SERVICES REPRESENT ABOUT 85% OF THE TOTAL FEDERAL FUNDING THAT THE CITY ANTICIPATES RECEIVING. THE REMAINING GRANTS FUND SERVICES FOR POLICE AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, FISCAL EMPOWERMENT, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AND SENIOR SERVICES. SO ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES I WANT TO BRIEFLY GO OVER WHAT IS INCLUDED IN SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS. SO FOR OUR CHILD AND YOUTH SERVICES, IT IS APPROXIMATELY $50 MILLION THAT SUPPORT THESE SERVICES. AND THIS INCLUDES OUR EARLY HEAD START AND OUR HEAD START PROGRAMS, WHICH PROVIDE SERVICES TO OVER 3,300 CHILDREN . OUR CHILDCARE QUALITY INITIATIVES GRANT SUPPORTS OUR CHILDCARE PROVIDERS. SO WITH THIS GRANT, WE ARE ABLE TO CERTIFY CHILDCARE PROVIDERS AND SINCE 2015, WE HAVE CERTIFIED OVER 400 CHILDCARE PROVIDERS. AND FINALLY, OUR WOMEN, INFANTS, AND CHILDREN GRANT. THIS SERVES ABOUT 35,000 WOMEN AND INFANTS AND PROVIDES NUTRITIOUS FOOD, NUTRITION EDUCATION, AND BREASTFEEDING PROMOTION AND SUPPORT FOR QUALIFIED WOMEN, INFANTS, AND THEIR CHILDREN. I DO WANT TO MENTION THERE IS OTHER FEDERAL SUPPORT THAT IS PROVIDED TO OTHER AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. THIS INCLUDES ABOUT $100 MILLION FOR OTHER HEAD START SERVICES AND THIS GOES TO ABOUT 22 OTHER AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE THESE SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY. ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE THREE OTHER AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE WIC -- EIGHT WIC CLINICS FOR THE COMMUNITY. SECOND IS OUR HOUSING SERVICES. THE BUDGET INCLUDES ABOUT $22 MILLION OF FEDERAL FUNDING THAT SUPPORT HOUSING SERVICES. OUR HOUSING SERVICES SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR LOW-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND ALSO HOUSING STABILITY. THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL OVER $220 MILLION FOR HOUSING SUPPORT THAT IS PROVIDED TO OTHER AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND THESE AGENCIES ALSO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOUSING STABILIZATION. FOR HOMELESS SERVICES, I HAVE ABOUT $7.4 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDS INCLUDED IN OUR 2026 BUDGET. THIS PROVIDES SUPPORT FOR SHELTER OPERATIONS AND SUPPORT SERVICES FOR HOMELESS AND ALSO PROVIDES FUNDS TO MEET THE HOUSING NEEDS OF PERSONS LIVING WITH HIV AND AIDS. THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL OVER $25 MILLION THAT ALSO SUPPORTS PERMANENT HOUSING AS WELL AS OTHER HOUSING SERVICES FOR BEXAR COUNTY. AND, FINALLY, FOR OUR HEALTH --H OPERATIONS, ABOUT $18 MILLION. THIS INCLUDES OUR MEDICAID WAIVER FUNDING AS WELL AS INFECTIOUS DISEASE PREVENTION AND CONTROL. AND ALSO TO HELP STRENGTHEN PUBLIC HEALTH CAPABILITIES AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL $20 MILLION THAT IS PROVIDED IN FEDERAL FUNDS TO SUPPORT TWO OTHER AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE 40 CLINICS THROUGHOUT SAN ANTONIO. NOW IN RESPONSE TO SOME CHANGES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THE CITY DEVELOPED AN INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS TO REACT QUICKLY, IF NEEDED, TO NEW EXECUTIVE ORDERS OR CHANGES IN FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING. THIS EFFORT IS CO-LED BY MARIA VILLAGOMEZ AND LIZ PROVENCIO AND WE MEET ON A WEEKLY BASIS TO REVIEW ANY CHANGES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AS CHANGES IN FEDERAL FUNDING HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED OR NEW EXECUTIVE ORDERS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED, THE COMMITTEE HAS PROVIDED UPDATES AND LAID OUT IMPACTS OF THESE CHANGES ON THE CITY OPERATION, IF THERE HAVE [02:15:04] BEEN ANY. AND FINALLY, AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE START OF WHEN THE COMMITTEE BEGAN MEETING, THERE HAVE BEEN ABOUT FOUR HEALTH GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED AS WELL AS A SUSTAINABILITY GRANT THAT WAS TERMINATED EARLY AS THE EPA TERMINATED A $7 BILLION SOLAR FOR ALL PROGRAM. AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WAS NOTIFIED THAT ONE OF THEIR IMMUNIZATION GRANTS WOULD BE REDUCED. AS A RESULT OF THIS, THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO PROVIDE VACCINATIONS AT OUR CLINIC. SO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DID TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THEIR BUDGET AND REPRIORITIZED SO THAT THEY FOUND CAPACITY IN THE GENERAL FUND TO CONTINUE THESE VACCINE SERVICES AT OUR CLINIC. WITH POTENTIAL REDUCTIONS, THERE MAY BE OTHER AREAS WHERE WE NEED TO REPRIORITIZE TO CONTINUE PROVIDING CERTAIN SERVICES. AND, WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY CHIEF O'NEAL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HONORED TO BE ASKED TO CONSTRUCT AND HELP FACILITATE THIS VERY IMPORTANT, VERY RELEVANT TABLETOP. MY TEAM AND MYSELF AT THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. AS JUSTINA MENTIONED, I'M DEPUTY CHIEF BRIAN O'NEAL. ALSO THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY. TABLETOPS BASED ON CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE I STOOD UP HERE. I UNDERSTAND MOST OF YOU HAVE A FIRM GRASP OF WHAT TABLETOPS ARE. WE BRING TOGETHER KEY PARTNERS WITHIN THE CITY TO DISCUSS A SCENARIO OR SITUATION, USUALLY AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, WHERE WE CAN COLLABORATE AND THINK CRITICALLY AND TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. IT'S A KEY PREPAREDNESS MEASURE. FOR A FISCAL TABLETOP IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING NEED TO HAVE A STRONG UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS PRIOR TO THE TABLETOP. ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE TIME-FRAMES THAT UNFOLD WHEN IT COMES TO FISCAL CRISES. SO THEY COULD BE WEEKS, MONTHS, OR EVEN YEARS. SO THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE WE DO THE ACTUAL TABLETOP. THEREFORE, THERE WILL BE TWO PHASES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE TABLETOP. SO PHASE 1, WE NEED TO DO -- DEPARTMENTS DO A DEEP ANALYSIS OF THEIR BUDGETS, PARTICULARLY HOW THEY ARE CONNECTED TO FEDERAL FUNDS AND HOW THEY'RE TIED TO FEDERAL FUNDS. ANY MANDATED SERVICES BASED ON THOSE CONNECTIONS TO FEDERAL FUNDS. PROJECTED IMPACTS. IF WE LOSE THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS. ANY CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS. HOW CAN THAT INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT BRIDGE ANY SORT OF SERVICES WITH LOSS OF FUNDS. CROSS-DEPENDENCY IDENTIFICATION. SO THIS IS WHERE MAYBE A PROGRAM IS DEPENDENT ON ANOTHER PROGRAM. ONE PROGRAM LOSES FEDERAL FUNDS AND OTHER PROGRAMS SUFFER. SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE AS WELL. AND THEN OF COURSE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION IS CRITICAL. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE COULD HONESTLY AND OPENLY PROVIDE A MESSAGE TO OUR COMMUNITY. OKAY. SO PHASE 2. THIS IS WHERE THE TABLETOP ACTUALLY HAPPENS. RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS IN DECEMBER TO DO IT OVER AT OUR EOC WITH MY STAFF FACILITATING IT AT THE EOC AND MYSELF AS WELL. SO THE PRE-WORK FINDINGS WILL BE GIVEN BEFORE WE START. THAT WAY EACH DEPARTMENT CAN HEAR FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT CHALLENGES THEY MAY HAVE HAD OR WHAT THEY HAVE DISCOVERED PRIOR TO THE TABLETOP SITUATION. LIKE MOST TABLETOPS, WE'LL DO INJECTS WITH CASCADING EVENTS FOLLOWED BY QUESTIONS, USUALLY THREE TO FIVE QUESTIONS TO HELP STIMULATE DISCUSSION AND CRITICAL THINKING. WE'LL DIVIDE INTO CROSS-FUNCTIONAL GROUPS, MAYBE IDENTIFY SOME GROUPS THAT CAN WORK TOGETHER AND SHARE SERVICES, COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS. AND THEN ALSO AGREE ON A UNIFIED CITY PLAN. ULTIMATELY WE'RE LOOKING FOR LESSONS LEARNED, IDENTIFYING ANY REQUIRED POLICY CHANGES OR BUDGETARY ACTIONS, AND FOLLOW-UP PLANNING PRACTICES AS WELL. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE SCENARIO WITH INJECTS ARE COMMON. YOU MIGHT WANT TO FOCUS ON THE OBJECTIVES, WHICH IS INFORMATION SHARING AND IMPACT ASSESSMENT, LIKE HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT. LET'S GET A FIRM GRASP OF HOW THESE FEDERAL FUNDS BEING LOST WOULD IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY. COLLABORATION IS KEY. IDENTIFYING ANY SORT OF GAPS THAT WE HAVE. OBVIOUSLY, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, REASSURING THE COMMUNITY IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT. AND THEN STRATEGIC PLANNING. NOT JUST LONG-TERM BUT ALSO [02:20:04] SHORT-TERM, LIKE WE LOSE SOME FUNDING NOW. MAYBE IT'S LOST FOREVER SO HOW DO WE PROCEED FORWARD AS WELL WITH THAT. SO AS MENTIONED BY JUSTINA, SOME KEY PARTNERS THAT WILL BE INVOLVED. THIS IS PART OF THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY APPROACH AND PREPAREDNESS. WE'RE ALL ONE COMMUNITY. WE RELY ON EACH OTHER. AS ONE IS AFFECTED, SO IS THE OTHER. WE ALL NEED TO PREPARE TOGETHER. THESE ARE SOME KEY PARTNERS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. OTHERS CAN BE INVOLVED AS WELL. HERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE WITH THE KEY PARTNERS. AND THEN WE'VE DECIDED TO BRING U.T. SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH IN TO VALIDATE WHAT WE'RE DOING TO PROVIDE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE IN THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND DISCOVERING AND TALKING ABOUT. THEY COULD BRING DATA AND MODELING FOR US AND GIVE US A TRUE IDEA OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THINGS LIKE REDUCTIONS OR LOSS OF CHIP, MEDICAID, SNAP, AND MEDICARE. SO AGAIN THE OUTCOMES OF THE TABLETOP, WE'RE LOOKING TO REALLY ASSESS THE RISKS OF FEDERAL FUND REDUCTIONS. GET A GOOD GRASP OF WHAT THE RISK IS AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN. THE IMPACT ON VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. WHO IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED THE MOST. FINALLY, DEVELOP PLANNING AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD ON. AND THE NEXT STEPS IS TO GET YOUR INPUT, ADJUST THE FRAMEWORK, AND THEN PASS IT OFF TO CITY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I RECOGNIZE THERE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ENOUGH TIME TO COLLECT IT AND THEN PROVIDE IT. ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE, AT LEAST WE HAD HERE -- AND YOU CAN PROVIDE IT AFTERWARDS, UNLESS IT'S MAYBE IN A BACKUP SLIDE. WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE GROUPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MOST IMPACTED BY THESE FEDERAL CUTS, DO WE HAVE NUMBERS FOR ALREADY THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE RECIPIENTS OF CHIP OR SNAP OR -- MAYBE SHE'S GOT THAT. GO AHEAD, MARIA. >> VILLAGOMEZ: YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO WE STARTED THE COLLECTION OF THAT DATA WITH SOME OF THE FEDERAL WORKERS NOT BEING AVAILABLE TO CONFORM SOME OF THE NUMBERS. METRO HEALTH AND DHS WILL BE FINALIZING THE DATA. WE HAVE SOME OF IT, JUST WANT TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GIVING YOU ACCURATE DATA. WE'LL SEND THAT IN A FOLLOW-UP MEMO. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU, MARIA. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, ERIK? THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE NEED TO PLAN, RIGHT? UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT THINK OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS WOULD BE SHUT DOWN. THANK YOU FOR LAYING THAT OUT. FOR THOSE THAT HAVEN'T PARTICIPATED IN A TABLETOP, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. AND SOME OF THIS I THINK WE ALSO UNDERSTAND, AS A COUNCIL, WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE WE MAY HAVE MORE -- WE HAVE GREATER NEED. AS COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN JUST TALKED ABOUT. WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE IS THERE GOING TO BE ALL OF A SUDDEN A SPIKE AT LION'S CENTER OR IN OTHER PLACES GIVEN THE MAKEUP OF CERTAIN COMMUNITIES . SO IN MY MIND, AS I WAS TALKING WITH ERIK AND WITH OTHERS ABOUT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, IT COULD BE VERY SIMPLE, FOLKS. IF WE LOSE 50% OF HEALTH FUNDING AND 50% OF HUMAN SERVICES FUNDING, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT SENIORS? HOW DOES THAT IMPACT YOUTH? AND HOW MIGHT THAT IMPACT FOLKS AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF AMI? KEEP IT REAL HIGH LEVEL. TO THE EXTENT WE'LL HAVE THAT DATA THAT MARIA IS TALKING ABOUT BY DISTRICT, THEN WE CAN ALSO DRILL DOWN AND SAY THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN DISTRICT 1. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN DISTRICT 9. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN DISTRICT 4. AND, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY ASPECT OF THIS. BUT EVEN IN THOSE SCENARIOS WE CAN GET A GOOD GRASP OF WHAT THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THE IMPACTS OF THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WAS POINTED OUT BY JUSTINA AND THE LOSS OF SOME OF THESE FEDERAL GRANTS, IT'S NOT JUST THE $4 MILLION LOSS IN CHILDCARE QUALITY INITIATIVE, IT'S NOW, OKAY, SO WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING THOSE CHILDCARE PROVIDERS, WHICH MEANS THOSE PARENTS AREN'T GOING TO WORK, RIGHT? OR WE'RE NOT FUNDING THAT -- RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE SYPHILIS TESTING LIKE WHAT DOES THAT ULTIMATELY MEAN? THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WE CAN QUALITATIVELY INCLUDE AS PART OF THE TABLETOP IN TERMS OF, HEY, WE IDENTIFIED THIS. WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PIN IN IT AND COME BACK TO IT. BUT >> MAYOR JONES: BUT THE TABLETOP HAS HELPED US UNDERSTAND THESE ARE THE IMMEDIATE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS AND THESE ARE THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WE'RE GOING TO KEEP AN EYE OUT AND WORK WITH EITHER THE COUNTY OR SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS [02:25:04] TO GET A SENSE OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING. I WILL ALSO SAY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PUBLIC HEALTH PIECE, OF COURSE, THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THE FUNDING IS UNDER THREAT, THE COMMS PIECE IS SO IMPORTANT HERE NOT ON AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LOGS OF MONEY, BUT WE'RE SEEING INCREASES IN MISINFORMATION AND DYSINFORMATION IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH SPACE IN PARTICULAR, SO I WOULD ASK THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT SCOPING THE SCENARIO, WE ACCOUNT FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS, EXPERTISE, AND THIS IS NOT ONLY FOR DR. JACOB, RIGHT, THIS IS FOR CNE, KIND OF HOW ALL OF US ON THIS COUNCIL THINK ABOUT COMMUNICATING AND GETTING SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OUT SO THAT IT'S TIMELY AND ACCURATE. OKAY. LET ME TURN IT OVER TO -- ERIK, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? OKAY. ANYBODY -- CHAIR MUNGIA? >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THIS DISCUSSION ON THE FRAMEWORK. THIS LOOKS REALLY GOOD. I WOULD SAY -- AND I GUESS THIS IS NOT WHOLLY INDICATIVE OF ALL THE PARTNERS, BUT DEFINITELY ADDING A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE I THINK IS IMPORTANT. THANKFULLY I HAVE EDGEWOOD AND SAISD, WHETHER THAT'S HAR LAL DEIGN, SOUTH SAN OR SOUTHWEST, I THINK THAT AREA NEEDS TO BE REPRESENTED IN THIS ALSO. I APPRECIATE THE DISTRICT BREAKDOWN, BUT ALSO THE DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN THAT WE ANTICIPATE. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THINGS GET CUT OR DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT PEOPLE IN SOCIETY, USUALLY WOMEN OF COLOR TYPICALLY HURT THE MOST BY SOME OF THE THINGS, SO I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IN EACH DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF PEOPLE GETTING HURT THE MOST AND THEN GO TO THOSE COMMUNITY PARTNERS WHO HELP SERVE THOSE PARTNERS, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SERVE, IT'S GOING TO BE TWICE AS MANY CLIENT REQUESTING HELP THAT YOU HAVE NOW. THAT WAY THEY ARE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS TO COME, AND THEN ALSO WE'RE UNDERSTANDING SO THAT IF WE NEED TO AMEND OUR NONPROFIT FUNDING, HOW THAT GOES. I FEEL LIKE SOMEONE'S MAYBE MISSING ON THE HEALTHCARE SIDE OF IT, TOO. I'M THANKFUL THAT YOU HAVE THE CENTER FOR HEALTH IMPAIRMENT SOUTH TEXAS, UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL, BAPTIST, EVEN SOME OF THE HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION FOLKS THAT INVEST MONEY IN HEALTHCARE PRIORITIES, BECAUSE SOME OF THE TOP TWO THINGS ARE GOING TO BE AT DHS AND METRO HEALTH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE A LOT OF HEALTH-RELATED THINGS. I KNOW THAT THE AIRPORT WAS CAPITAL, BUT -- BELONGS IN THIS TABLETOP, BUT HOW THAT AFFECTS THE AIRPORT. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY -- COMPARED TO THIS A HUGE PRIORITY BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE FLIGHTS AND ALL OF THAT HAPPENING, BUT JUST HOW IT AFFECTS THE GROWTH OF THAT AND OUR PLANS FOR THAT. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR THE GOOD POINT ON MAKING SURE WE'RE ADEQUATELY ACCOUNTING FOR CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, LIKE WOMEN OF COLOR, SO, ERIK, I SPECIFICALLY ASK THAT WE ASK PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO PARTICIPATE. CHAIR MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: TH THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR INITIATING THIS CONVERSATION. OVERALL, I THINK THE FRAMEWORK IS FINE, AND I'M WILLING TO EXPERIENCE IT AS IS, AND I GUESS JUST WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND EXERCISES LIKE THIS, THAT THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS MADE CLEAR UP FRONT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, SO WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION WE DON'T GET OFFTRACK AND GET SO FOCUSED ON BIG ISSUES THAT WE DON'T INTEND TO ADDRESS AND THAT WE'RE FOCUSED VERY CLEARLY ON SOME TANGIBLE ACTION STEPS AND WHAT WE EXPECT OF CITY STAFF. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STANDS OUT TO ME, IF YOU COULD GO TO SLIDE 8 IS THAT THAT IS 663 POSITIONS THAT -- THESE ARE ALL CITY EMPLOYEES? 663 PEOPLE WHO WILL NOW BE OUT OF A JOB, THAT'S 663 POTENTIALLY HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE WITHOUT A MAJOR SOURCE, IF NOT ALL OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES OF THAT. SO DO WE HAVE AT THE READY, DO WE KNOW WHAT POSITIONS EXIST WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAVE VACANCIES THAT WE COULD MOVE PEOPLE INTO RELATIVELY QUICKLY AND EASILY AND WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION OR WHAT KIND OF -- WHAT WOULD YOU NEED IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND HOW COULD NOS POSITIONS BE UTILIZED TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THIS. I GUESS A PART OF THIS IS ALSO WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT BUDGET IS NOT JUST -- HOW MUCH OF THAT IS PROGRAMMING VERSUS SALARIES AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS? I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO HAVE. AND I THINK JUST LOOKING [02:30:02] AT THIS SLIDE, JUST BASED OFF OF -- I THINK A LIST LIKE THIS SHOULD -- I MEAN, WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS, RIGHT, SHOULD INFORM EVEN THE CATEGORIES THAT WE USE FOR OUR DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDING PROCESS. ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IMPACTED OR CUT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION AND INTERESTED IN THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES' FEEDBACK. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMEMBER SPEARS? >> SPEARS: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ SAID. I -- I SAID IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I WANTED TO SEE A PRIORITIZED LIST OF ESSENTIAL VERSUS DISCRETIONARY GRANT FUNDED SERVICES JUST TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS THERE, POTENTIAL OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. I WANTED TO -- AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MUNGIA ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS AS WELL AS BY DISTRICT AS WELL. AND I WANTED TO ALSO SEE IF THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR REALLOCATION OF OTHER FUNDS, EVEN OTHER FEDERAL FUNDS INTO CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE LOSING THE FUNDING. AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF POTENTIAL FOR THE RETURN OF THAT FUNDING OR IF WE REAPPLY AND ARE ABLE TO GET IT, THE LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING THAT LATER. I KNOW, SOME OF THESE ARE COMPLETELY GOING AWAY POTENTIALLY, BUT JUST POTENTIAL AVENUES FORWARD FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE FEDERAL GRANTS, THOSE ARE -- THEY'RE NOT -- THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, RIGHT? WE'RE GIVEN TO THEM FOR A VERY SPECIFIC CAUSE. I'M SURE THE LAYOUT WHERE WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT I DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE JUST A TON, WHICH IS WHY WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT, HEY, IF THIS GOES -- IF THE FUNDING GOES AWAY AND THE SERVICE GOES AWAY, WHAT IS OUR POTENTIAL COMMITMENT TO CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THOSE THINGS, AND THEN WHAT MIGHT IT COST US AS A CITY TO PROVIDE THAT. CHAIR GALVAN? >> GALVAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO TAKE THIS DIVE INTO IT. I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR, OF COURSE, OUR BUDGET CONVERSATIONS NEXT YEAR, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A BIT MORE, TOO, THAT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE, RIGHT, OUR OWN DEFICIT, BUT THE GRANT DEFICIT THAT WILL ALSO BE CREATED WITHIN OUR CITY BUDGET. I THINK SOMETHING THAT -- I FEEL GOOD WITH THIS FRAMEWORK. IT FEELS PRETTY COMFORTABLE TO ME. I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THE POINTS FROM COUNCILMAN MUNGIA OF GETTING A SOUTH SIDE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETTING INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATION. MAKING SURE WE HAVE EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT, AND I ALSO WANT TO MENTION NOT ANOTHER PARTNER FOR ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN EASILY GET TO ALL 16 QUESTION BUT MAYBE REGION 20 OR THE BEXAR COUNTY EDUCATION COALITION, SO IT'S NOT EVERYBODY AND TOO BIG OF A TABLE, BUT ALSO IF IT'S WORTHWHILE TO GET EVERYBODY THERE, THAT WORKS, TOO. SOMETHING I THINK IS IMPORTANT, TOO, OF COURSE, IS MAYBE EVEN JUST LAYING OUT WHAT FUNDING SPECIFICALLY WE'RE CAPABLE OF AS A CITY, WHAT THINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITHIN OUR BUDGET TO DO THIS WORK, WHERE CAN WE MOVE X DOLLARS FROM -- HOUSING UNITS OR ASSIST AS MANY HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS OR ADDRESS -- REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF STDS IN OUR CITY, WHATEVER IT IS, IDENTIFYING THE KIND OF DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S NEEDED TO DO THAT WORK, NOT JUST TO SHORE UP THIS WORK, BUT TO REALLY ADDRESS THE LARGER ISSUE. I THINK THE SAME POINT OF DELEGATE AGENCIES, RIGHT, WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST THAT WE NEED HERE, AND THAT MAY BE MORE DIFFICULT TO FULLY ENCAPSULATE BUT I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE TO SEE HOW FAR WE NEED TO GO TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE IN OUR CITY, SO WE HAVE THE INFORMATION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S IN OUR CITY BUDGET BUT TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS WITH, TO BETTER ADDRESS THE ISSUE OVERALL, WHETHER IT IS WITHIN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, OR HEALTH ISSUES OR WITHIN HOMELESSNESS OR HOUSING NEEDS IN OUR CITY, I THINK HAVING THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT EITHER PRESENTED TO US OR WHETHER IN FOLLOW-UP MEMOS I THINK WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO REALLY GET US TO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO HERE, WHAT IS THE LONG STERM STRATEGY, NOT JUST FOR 2027, BUT IN THE FUTURE, IS IT GOING TO REQUIRE USING TIRZ DOLLARS AND STUFF, IS IT GOING TO REQUIRE TAX INCREASE OR DECREASE KROFERTION, REQUIRE TAX EXEMPTION CONVERSATIONS? WHERE ARE THESE POCKETS OF MONEY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO FUNDAMENTALLY GET TO THIS ISSUE, AND SO WE CAN TALK TO OUR RESIDENTS, TOO, ABOUT IT, THAT IT'S NOT JUST MOVING THIS MONEY AROUND FOR THIS OR THAT FOR FUN. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE THINKING THAT WAY, BUT NEVERTHELESS, RIGHT, THAT THESE -- THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO DO THIS AND EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, RIGHT? WE TALK ABOUT HOMELESS FOLKS ON THE STREET, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO JUST GROW THIS ORGANIZATION TO DO THIS THING, BUT TO BREAK THAT KIND OF -- THAT THOUGHT PROCESS AND [02:35:03] SAY, NO, THIS DOESN'T HELP THIS MANY PEOPLE AND IF WE GET THESE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSING UNITS, WE HAVE THE HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE FROM THIS FUNDING, THE PROBLEM'S DONE, FOR THE MOST PART, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S WHERE -- THAT ACTUALLY -- I THINK THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS ANYWAY, BUT I THINK THOSE EXACT DOLLARS WOULD P HELPFUL. AND THE COORDINATION, TOO, RIGHT, WHAT IS THE POLICY RECOMMENDATION WE NEED TO HAVE FOR OURSELVES AS WELL AS OUR PARTNERS IN THE AREA, IF IT'S THE COUNTY, THE STATE, THAT ADDRESS THIS WORK, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TOGETHER TO GET TO THAT POINT, RIGHT? IS IT LAND USE CONVERSATION, IS IT UDC CONVERSATIONS, FOR BOTH US AND THE COUNTY, OTHER PARTNERS, TOO. THAT'S WHAT I THINK I REALLY WANT TO SEE COME OUT OF THIS, TOO, SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS A BIT MORE CLEARLY, ESPECIALLY AROUND BUDGET CONVERSATIONS. BUT I'M EXCITED TO HAVE THIS OVERALL, AND I THINK THAT IT WILL, AGAIN, KIND OF COME NATURALLY. THAT'S MY FOCUS IS, WHAT'S THE DOLLAR AMOUNT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. >> MAYOR JONES: LET ME JUST -- >> WALSH: OH, SORRY. >> MAYOR JONES: IF I MAY, WHERE WE FIND THE MONEY IS KIND OF UP TO US. PART OF THIS, THOUGH, IS HELPING US UNDERSTAND JUST HOW BAD SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS MAY BE. AND SO ERIK'S PLAN TO COVER THE GAP THAT WE KNOW OF OF 150 MILLION, IF WE WERE TO ADD EVEN HALF OF A LOSS OF THESE FEDERAL GRANTS, WHICH IS 75.5, RIGHT, 75 MILLION AND A AND A HALF, ALL OF A SUDDEN ERIK'S PLAN MAY NOT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL, RIGHT? AND SO THAT -- THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND HERE WHEN WE ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AND LOOK AT HIS PLAN, BUT THEN RECOGNIZE THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE COVER DOWN ON. AND MAYBE, TO YOUR POINT, RIGHT, WE'RE NOT COVERING ALL OF THE $4 MILLION IN THE CHILDCARE QUALITY INITIATIVE, WE'RE NOT FUNDING ALL OF THE MONEY THAT GOES TO HOUSING STABILIZATION, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS MANAGEABLE IN LIGHT OF -- IF WE SAY, HEY, HERE ARE OUR RED LINES, WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES, WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO GO FROM FOUR TO FIVE AT SAWS, RIGHT, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS WE NEED TO HAVE, BUT UNDERSTANDING THE SCALE OF THE PROBLEM IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING DO -- TO DO HERE, AND THEN WE CAN SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE STILL THINK THAT'S -- X, Y AND Z IS IMPORTANT, NOW, ERIK, HELP US GO FIND THAT MONEY. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. >> GALVAN: YEAH, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK MY POINT IS VUS FIGURING OUT WHAT'S THE SCALE OF THE COST THERE AND WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE NEED THERE IF IT'S -- THINGS ARE EVEN THE RED LINES, RIGHT? LAY IT OUT FOR US SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO THERE. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO SEE. >> WALSH: MAYOR, AND I WANTED TO ADD, AND PART OF IT -- AND THE CHIEF COULD ANSWER THIS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS EXERCISE WITH A LOT OF ANSWERS. WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY COME OUT WITH A LOT MORE QUESTIONS. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT. THOSE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBERS, THAT WE NEED ANSWERS, BUT THE -- BUT EFFORTS LIKE THIS ARE DESIGNED TO STRESS, BREAK, GENERATE MORE QUESTIONS, IDENTIFY BIGGER GAPS. AND IT'S JUST -- IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE ORGANIZATION TO KNOW ABOUT THOSE THINGS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW, WE WEREN'T -- WHEN WE COME BACK IN JANUARY OR DECEMBER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ANSWERED. >> MAYOR JONES: LET ME ALSO -- I'M MAKING SOME ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS. A VERY REAL POSSIBILITY OF THIS COULD BE AS A RESULT OF THAT GRANT GOING AWAY, X NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOSE THIS SERVICE. IF WE THEN, AS A COUNCIL SAY, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO US, OKAY, ERIK, IF WE WANTED TO COTHIS AS A CITY -- DO THIS AS A CITY, HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST? AND THEN ERIK'S GOING TO SAY, THIS IS HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST, AND WE MAKE A DETERMINATION OF DO WE WANT TO PAY FOR THAT OUT OF OUR CURRENT BUDGET? DO WE WANT TO TAKE OTHER STEPS TO COVER THAT? EXACTLY, RIGHT, IN THE SAME WAY THAT MANY FOLKS WERE ABLE TO POINT TO THAT ANALYSIS THAT SAID, HEY, WE NEED THIS MANY COPS, THIS ANALYSIS WILL HELP US SAY, ACTUALLY, IF TH -- AGAIN, WE SAID WE WANTED THIS MANY PEOPLE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, THAT WE SAID WAS STILL IMPORTANT EVEN THOUGH FEDERAL MONEY GOES AWAY. SO THIS THEN ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT WHERE IS ALL THE NEED IN LIGHT OF -- SOME OF THE -- THE BILLS THAT WE KNOW OF AND WHERE WE NEED TO MAYBE GO ASK ERIK TO IDENTIFY SOME OPTIONS FOR US TO FUND THESE THINGS. CHAIR KAUR, PLEASE? >> KAUR: I JUST -- SORRY. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, WAS THE REASON WHY THE SOUTH SIDE DISTRICTS WEREN'T ON THERE IS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DIRECTLY DOING THEIR HEAD START? OKAY. OKAY. SO IF WE -- I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE, HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVE. WHO IS THEIR HEAD START PROVIDER? >> SO MAYBE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO ALSO HAVE REGION 20 THERE. IS THERE ANOTHER HEAD START PROVIDER, OR JUST THOSE TWO? THERE'S EIGHT? OR R OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. [02:40:02] >> REBECCA FLORES, EDUCATION PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR. THERE'S EIGHT TOTAL HEAD START PROVIDERS THROUGHOUT BEXAR COUNTY. >> KAUR: OKAY. SO IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO INCLUDE THEM. THE HEAD START PROGRAM IS THE BIGGEST ONE, I THINK IS THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF THAT CHILDREN AND YOUTH FUNDING AND I THINK I MENTIONED IT DURING BUDGET SEASON, I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT -- I THINK HEAD START IS A GREAT -- CONTINUED, AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE DISCUSS IN THE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE FILL IN THAT GAP THERE. THEORETICALLY, THERE STILL IS 1882 FUNDING AT THE STATE AND IF THERE WAS A WAY FOR OUR SCHOOLS TO PROVIDE FOR THAT FUNDING AND USE OUR HEAD START PROVIDERS AT THAT, THERE MIGHT BE SOME WAY TO KEEP THAT GOING, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE FUND TWO TEACHERS IN THAT CLASSROOM BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF THEIR MODEL. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS INFORMATION, BUT THE THING THAT I WORRY ABOUT IS WE HAVE THIS TABLETOP EXERCISE, WE SAY WE WANT TO FUND -- I'M BEING THE FIRST ONE, OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO FUND METRO HEALTH, OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO FUND THESE THINGS, BUT WHERE DO WE GET THE MONEY FROM. SO I HAVE A HARD TIME JUST SAYING, LIKE, LET'S SET THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE WE PULL THE FUNDING FROM. SO THAT'S JUST MY -- THAT'S MY CHALLENGE WITH THE WHOLE CONVERSATION. I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO LEAVE US ALL MORE FRUSTRATED THAN -- >> MAYOR JONES: WELL, YES. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT I THINK THE MORE THAT WE ARE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS IN JANUARY, RIGHT, AND NOT JULY, THE BETTER PREPARED THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE. AND FRANKLY, WE THEN -- WE KNOW MORE, RIGHT? WE KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, SO AS ERIK IS MONITORING OUR BUDGET AND WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THE OTHER ACTIONS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE WE CAN PIVOT, BUT NOT -- THE THING IS -- I MEAN, THIS NEWS IS NOT GOING TO GET BETTER AS TIME MOVES ON, SO THE BEST THING WE CAN DO TO HELP OURSELVES IS TO REDUCE THE UNCERTAINTY, ASK THE QUESTIONS, CHECK OUR ASSUMPTIONS, AND THEN ALREADY BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH EACH OF THESE BRIEFINGS, WHO GETS FUNDING, WHO MAY NOT GET FUNDING. YOU KNOW, AS WE -- I MEAN, THINK OF BUDGET SESSION -- IT'S BUDGET SEASON NOW, RIGHT, THINK OF IT THAT WAY. >> KAUR: I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, AND MY ONLY RESPONSE IS THAT WE HAD A PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSION LAST YEAR ABOUT ADDING FUNDING TO A DEPARTMENT, AND THE DEBATE ALWAYS WAS, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE CUTTING MONEY FROM TO FUND THAT? BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN GET ON BOARD WITH, YES, FUNDING A SPECIFIC THING, BUT -- OR MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY, BUT, YOU KNOW, -- AND I THINK YOU REMEMBER WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. >> WALSH: YEAH. >> KAUR: AND THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CUT IF WE WANT TO FUND THIS REQUEST, SO ANYWAY, I'LL LET YOU TALK, ERIK. >> WALSH: I'LL JUST ADD, COUNCILWOMAN, THAT THAT SLIDE. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TUMULTUOUS SWIRL IN THE WATER SINCE EARLIER THIS YEAR, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED SO FAR, A COUPLE OF GRANTS, HEALTH GRANTS THAT WERE SCHEDULED TO END ANYWAY ENDED SOONER. THE BIG ONE WAS REALLY THE SO BAR PROGRAM THAT REALLY HADN'T GOTTEN OFF THE GROUND. SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN IMPACTED. AND THAT GOES BACK TO THAT EARLIER CONVERSATION IN THE YEAR, BUT -- BUT BEING PREPARED FOR IT AND BEING EXERCISED FOR IT, I MEAN, WE -- THE DEPARTMENT'S JUST WENT THROUGH A PRETTY MASSIVE EXERCISE TO BALANCE TWO YEARS' WORTH OF BUDGET. SO THEY CAN HANDLE IT. IT'S MAKING SURE WE INCLUDE PARTNERS IN IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY OUTPUT, SO WILL IT HAPPEN? I DON'T KNOW. FEDERAL CYCLE -- FEDERAL FUNDING CYCLES GO UP AND DOWN ANYWAY, AND SO WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE PREPARED FOR IT. AND SO DON'T -- LET US GO THROUGH THE STEPS. DON'T GO TO THE LAST PAGE YET, BUT I THINK IT'S MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALL PREPARED. AND I THINK THE MAYOR -- THE MAYOR'S POINTS EARLIER ARE RIGHT ON, I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST BEING PREPARED. AND THERE WON'T BE ANY EASY ANSWERS. THAT'S OKAY. >> KAUR: HEARD. THANKS, ERIK. THE LAST QUESTION REALLY QUICK, WHAT WERE THE TWO POSITIONS, ANDY, IN YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT ARE ON THERE? CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. >> WALSH: THE TWO CDBG. >> KAUR: CDBG ATTORNEYS? >> THEY HELP US SUPPORT THE HOUSING COME CAN POAN INNOCENT OF THE CD -- COMPONENT OF THE CDBG FUNDING. >> KAUR: THANKS, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JONES: TO THAT POINT, WHILE WE MIGHT NOT BE SUPER CLEAR ON THE FEDERAL GRANTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CUT AND WHEN THEY MAY BE CUT, THE CUTS TO CHIP, SNAP, SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, THOSE ARE COMING. IT'S NOT AN IF, IT'S A WHEN. THOSE ARE COMING. >> WALSH: YEAH. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE [02:45:02] REASONS WHY WE'VE ASKED THE UT SYSTEM -- THE UT HEALTH PROGRAM TO USE THEIR -- UTILIZE THEIR HEALTH ECONOMISTS TO HELP US FRAME OUT THE NUMBER THAT THE MAYOR WAS ASKING MARIA AROUND, BEYOND THE NUMBERS, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? AND UT HEALTH HAS AGREED TO HELP KIND OF FRAME THAT OUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE SO WE ALL BETTER UNDERSTAND IT. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO? >> CASTILLO: THANK Y'ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN A HANDFUL OF BUDGET CYCLES IN WHICH WE HAVE THE BUDGET GOAL SETTING CONVERSATIONS, WHETHER IT'S NHSD, DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES AND METRO HEALTH, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NEED TO SUPPORT THESE DEPARTMENTS THROUGH THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND TO HELP PREVENT AND PREPARE FOR INSTANCES OF FEDERAL CUTS. AND WHAT WE KNOW, RIGHT, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED, I THINK THE COUNCILWOMAN LAID IT OUT ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM, RIGHT? WE KNOW THE DISTRICTS, THE ZIP CODES AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED TO CUTS OF FEDERAL PROGRAM, I THINK WE NEED A PLAN IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE SAFETY NETS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE NEED TO BUILD AND/OR SCALE UP, BECAUSE WE -- WE KNOW THE DATA. FOR EXAMPLE, DISTRICT FIVE IS HOME TO 1,937 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS, AND WHILE THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY FEDERAL CUTS, RIGHT, THERE'S POTENTIALLY CHANGES TO THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT A TENANT CAN STAY WITHIN PUBLIC HOUSING, THEN CAN RESULT IN POTENTIAL HOMELESSNESS, ENCAMPMENTS, PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES. SO I THINK IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE POLICY CHANGES AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO IMPACT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS WORTH EXPLORING, GRATEFUL TO SEE OPPORTUNITY HOME HERE AND PARTED IN THE PRESENTATION AS WELL, BUT I THINK PART OF THE EXPECTATION IS, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHERE TO FUND WHAT WE FIND -- WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW ARE GOING TO BE RISKS, AND AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED, RIGHT? SO IT'S JUST -- I THINK WE KNOW THE AREAS AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THE BUDGET POLICY CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE FUND THESE DEPARTMENTS. AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET TO THAT PART FIRST IN TERMS OF HOW CAN WE CHANGE THE POLICY TO SUPPORT NHSD, METRO HEALTH AND SO FORTH IN TERMS OF GENERAL FUNDING RATHER THAN RELYING PRIMARILY ON FEDERAL GRANTS. AND AS ERIK MENTIONED, RIGHT, THIS IS FLUCTUATING AND CHANGING, BUT I DO THINK THERE IS VALUE IN ALSO EXPLEERING SOME OF THOSE POLICY CHANGES THAT ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE IMPACTSES. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JONES: OH, SURE. DID YOU SIGN IN? WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE? HAVE WE GOT SOMEBODY ELSE? OH, OKAY. CHAIR VIAGRAN? >> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILMAN GALVAN, I WANT TO SEE -- NOTHING'S OFF THE TABLE. I NEED TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD MEAN TO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES, INCREASE FEES, IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT WOULD -- HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE BUDGET. WHILE THERE ARE LINES, OF COURSE, I KNOW ALL OF US DON'T WANT TO CROSS, I THINK IN TERMS OF THE FEDERAL GRANTS AND WHERE WE LOOK AT CHILDREN AND YOUTH AND THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE NEED EVERYTHING THERE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE. I DON'T WANT TO NOT HAVE IT THERE WHILE WE DO THIS EXERCISE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE FEDERAL GRANT TABLETOP EXERCISE IS GOING TO BE ONE OF MANY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AS WE LOOK AND MOVE FORWARD IN THIS BUDGET BECAUSE WE'VE ENTERTAINED A ZERO BALANCED BUDGET MENTALITY. SO -- OR HYBRID, AS YOU MIGHT SAY. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THIS, BUT BRING ME WHAT IT WOULD COST TO RAISE FEES AND TO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES, BECAUSE TO DO THIS WITH HALF THE INFORMATION IS JUST GOING TO CAUSE MORE WORK LATER. I THINK WE -- WE ALSO NEED TO BE READY TO PIVOT WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DECIDES THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE OUT GRANTS, BUT WHAT THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND WE NEED TO BE READY WITH PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES AND POLICIES THAT WILL GET US MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AND IF THAT MEANS WE -- WE DO SOMETHING WE HADN'T DONE BEFORE, CONSIDERED BEFORE, LIKE GOING -- LIKE GOING HIGH DENSITY IN A VIEW SHED AREA THAT WE SWORE WE'D NEVER GO HIGH DENSITY IN, THEN WE DO THAT. SO I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE KIND OF NEED TO LOOK AT IN THE [02:50:03] FUTURE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR PRIORITY IS TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO AND OUR DISTRICT, BUT I THINK AT THIS RATE, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CONTINUE TO MAKE THE CITY GO FORWARD AND WE KNOW AT THIS TIME OUR FEDERAL GRANTS ARE AT RISK, BUT WE KNOW THAT IN THE FUTURE, IT COULD BE OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CAUSED IT. I THINK THIS CITY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THE PANDEMIC AND COVID AND MAKING THE PIVOTS AND THE CHANGES THAT THEY NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THE CITY STAYED ALIVE, BASICALLY AND OPEN FOR BUSINESS, BUT I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD HERE, WE'RE FACING SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NEVER FACED. IT DOESN'T MEAN OTHER NATIONS HAVEN'T FACED THESE SAME CHALLENGES, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER STATES AND OTHER CITIES WITHIN THIS STATE THAT WILL NOT BE READY LIKE SAN ANTONIO NEEDS TO BE READY. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT, BUT I -- I WOULD PREFER EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE SO WE CAN WORK WITH THAT AND THEN FROM THERE, WE CAN DECIDE WHAT ARE OUR NONNEGOTIABLES. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MEZA GONZALEZ? >> GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. JUST QUICKLY, ESSENTIALLY TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN WAS SAYING, MOVING FORWARD, MAKING SURE THAT WE SEE ALL THE PATHWAYS, RIGHT, OF MITIGATING THESE LOSSES. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT NOW, BUT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS. BUT I ALSO -- IS THAT MORE SO ON JUST INTERNALLY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT -- WITHIN THE EXECUTIVES FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH, TO THEN TAKE THAT TO THE TABLETOP, OR IS THAT -- >> VILLAGOMEZ: SO FOR PHASE 1, WE ANTICIPATE TO ALSO BE WORKING WITH SOME OF OUR PARTNERS TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE THE DATA FOR THE TABLETOP EXERCISE, SO IT WILL BE OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS WORKING WITH THE PARTNERS THAT YOU SAW ON THE SCREEN. >> GONZALEZ: OKAY. AND THEN I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LEGAL STRATEGY AROUND SOME OF THIS, TOO, SO HAVE WE KIND OF TALKED THROUGH THAT OR -- JUST WHEN THESE CUTS START COMING OR IF THEY START COMING AND OTHER CITIES -- >> SEGOVIA: AS YOU WELL KNOW, WELL, COUNCILWOMAN, WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE VARIOUS LANGUAGE WE'RE GETTING ON SOME OF THESE GRANTS IN TERMS OF THE ASSURANCES, SO WE HAVE A TEAM THAT INCLUDES THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT ARE LOOKING AT THAT. AND WE'LL CERTAINLY BE INVOLVED IN ANY STRATEGIES, AS WE LOOK TO FILL IN THE GAPS IN TERMS OF WHAT LEGAL LEEWAY WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM. >> GONZALEZ: OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT IS -- ONE THING -- I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COMES UP HERE. I WAS AT AN EVENT EARLIER, A COUNCILMAN AND I WERE AT AN EVENT EARLIER, A LUNCH, AND SAMCO WAS LETTING US KNOW THAT ALL MPO MONEY IS ALL FEDERAL FUNDS, RIGHT, THAT COME THROUGH THE STATE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR THIS TABLETOP OR THERE'S ANOTHER TABLETOP THAT THAT WOULD FIT IN, JUST TO EXAMINE THOSE IMPACTS. COUNCILWOMAN, I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT ONE OF THE -- I THINK IT WAS MAYBE SLIDE 3 OR 4 WHERE WE SAY ONE OF THE KEY AREAS THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL IS INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THE FACT THAT IF THERE ARE CHANGES TO FUNDING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE RELIANCE ON LOCAL FUNDING. WE AT THIS POINT DIDN'T INCLUDE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS TABLETOP, IT WAS MORE RELATED TO SOCIAL SERVICES, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION. >> GONZALEZ: OKAY. AND THEN CAN WE DISCOVER PHILANTHROPY IN THIS GROUP OF PARTNERS? WE SAW THEM HERE EARLIER TODAY. BUT JUST A PHILANTHROPY ARM, JUST TO KIND OF PIGGY PIGGYBACK ON THE CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING EARLIER WITH DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDING, WE SEE AN INCREASE ON THE SERVICES -- YOU KNOW, THE 14 MILLION, I THINK THEY SAID, IN SERVICES FOR THIS QUARTER ALONE, SO THERE IS -- CAN WE INCLUDE THEM IN THIS TABLETOP EXERCISE. >> VILLAGOMEZ: SO FOR SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NONPROFIT, BUT WE CAN EXPLORE POTENTIALLY THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL. >> GONZALEZ: OKAY. >> VILLAGOMEZ: BUT THE NONPROFIT COUNCIL WILL BE PART OF THE TABLETOP EXERCISE. >> GONZALEZ: OKAY. YEAH, IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE PHILANTHROPY, I THINK THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. THAT'S ALL FOR NOW. THANKS. >> MAYOR JONES: CHAIR MUNGIA? >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. JUST HAD A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, SPECIFICALLY ON THE AIRPORT, BUT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WITH THOSE POSITIONS THAT ARE GRANT FUNDED, ARE WE OBLIGATED TO KEEP ANY OF THOSE AFTER THE FEDERAL FUNDING HAS GONE AWAY? >> WALSH: NO, THEY'RE ALL [02:55:01] GRANT FUNDED AND WHEN THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE HIRED, THEY'RE HIRED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AND THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THEIR FUND -- THEIR FUNDING IS TIED TO OUTSIDE FUNDING. >> MUNGIA: EVEN SAPD OFFICERS? >> VILLAGOMEZ: I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT, WE ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE POLICE OFFICERS FUNDED WITH DOJ COPS GRANT. >> MUNGIA: AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE ONLY POSITIONS LISTED OF THE 663 THAT ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP ON AFTER THE GRANT. >> VILLAGOMEZ: THAT IS CORRECT. >> WALSH: YES. >> MUNGIA: JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU, THAT'S ALL. >> MAYOR JONES: HAS EVERYONE SPOKEN WH WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC? OKAY. GO AHEAD. >> GALVAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR, I WANTED TO ECHO REALLY QUICK THE POINT ABOUT THE FILL LAP THRO PI, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELP LFUL THINKING ABOUT THE ESTIMATED COST, NOT ONLY SEEING WHAT THE NONPROFIT CAN TAKE ON BUT ALSO THE PHILANTHROPY SEEING WHAT THEY CAN TAKE ON AS WELL, THEY MAY HELP US WITH THE COST SERVICES WE'RE LOOKING TO SHORE UP AND PROVIDE, AND I THINK IT'S A STRESSFUL TIME. I THINK WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION TODAY OVERALL, BUT I THINK I ALWAYS LEAN ON HOPE IN HISTORY IN THINKING ABOUT HOW CITIES WERE FORMED AND WHAT THINGS WE'VE DONE IN OUR CITY BEFORE, PARTICULARLY HERE, AND THERE WAS A POINT IN OUR LIVES -- OR IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE DIDN'T HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TRASH PICKUP, AND WE HAD TO MAKE OUR CITY LEADERS AT THE TIME HAD TO MAKE DECISIONS AND MOVES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO IT'S ALWAYS TOUGH TO LOOK AT THE RED LINES THERE, HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT WITH THIS WORK AND WITH THE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE, THAT THAT WILL STILL COME OUT IN THAT WAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JONES: HAS EVERYONE SPOKEN WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK? CAN WE GO TO YOUR, THE NEXT STEPS, THE TIMELINE SLIDE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- BECAUSE THAT WASN'T IN OUR SLIDE, JUST SO WE -- FOLKS ARE CLEAR ON WHAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE BY WHAT TIME. OKAY. SOKOL LEAGUES, PLEASE MAKE NOTE OF THE REQUEST TO PROVIDE INPUT, AND AS MENTIONED, ONE OF THE ONES THAT I'LL BE PUTTING FORWARD IS THE VERY SIMPLE ONE THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHICH IS IF WE LOSE 50% OF HEALTH FUNDING AND 50% OF HUMAN SERVICES FUNDING, WHAT WOULD THAT LUKE LIKE FOR OUR SENIORS, YOUTH, AND FOR THOSE -- YOU ALL MAKE A DETERMINATION ABOUT WHAT THE APPROPRIATE AMI MIGHT BE. THAT'S ONE SCENARIO AND HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE PER DISTRICT. I JUST AGAIN WANT TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE IN TERMS OF THE FEEDBACK, IT CUSSN'T NEED TO BE MORE SCIENTIFIC THAN THAT, IF YOU WILL. IT JUST GIVES US A GOOD SPENCE SENSE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE -- SENSE OF THINGS THAT ARE TOP OF MIND OF YOU IN YOUR DISTRICTS TO MAKE THIS AS USEFUL AS IT CAN BE. SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU PROVIDE THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER BY THE 20TH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A FINAL FRAMEWORK FOR CONSIDERATION LATER THAT WEEK. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. THIS IS NOT MEANT TO -- REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION, ACTUALLY I SAID, DO ONE MORE THING, WHICH IS JUST GET EVERYONE'S KIND OF FINAL SENSE OF IF ALL WERE COMFORTABLE WITH WAITING TO PROVIDE MELODY GUIDANCE ON THE PRIORITIES FOR THE NONPROFIT FUNDING UNTIL WE HAD THE RESULTS OF THE TABLETOP, WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS EXTEND THOSE RECIPIENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY RECEIVING IT FROM EIGHT MONTHS TO 12 MONTHS, AND THEN ALLOW THOSE FOLKS TO RECEIVE THE -- TO RECEIVE THE NOT PROFIT FUNDING STARTING ON 1 OCTOBER INSTEAD OF 1 JUNE OF NEXT YEAR. IS THAT CORRECT, MELODY? HAVE I EXPLAINED THAT CORRECTLY? OKAY. THANK YOU. SO JUST TO -- AS WE'VE JUST GOT TO GO AROUND AGAIN, I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON DOING THAT, OR IF THERE'S ANY ISSUE. OKAY. LET ME JUST MAKE-A-WISH SURE. ANYTHING FROM CHAIR KAUR. >> SEGOVIA: I THINK, MAYOR, IT WOULD BE MORE USEFUL IF ERIK SUMMARIZES OTHER THAN GOING AROUND. >> MAYOR JONES: I DIDN'T HEAR FROM ALL THE COLLEAGUES, BUT IF THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. >> SEGOVIA: CORRECT, MAYOR, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE -- I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO FOR IT. >> MAYOR JONES: SURE. GO FOR IT, ERIK. >> WALSH: SO PART OF THE QUESTION IS, IS BASED ON THE SECONDARY PRESENTATION. I'M LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD DELAY THE DELEGATE AGENCY RFP UNTIL WE GO THROUGH THE TABLETOP AND PROVIDE THAT TO COUNCIL. AND AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, SHE'S MENTIONED IT TWICE TODAY, [03:00:01] IF WE DO THAT, WE WOULD RE -- WE WOULD ADJUST OUR SCHEDULE FOR THE DELEGATE AGENCY AND LIKELY AWARD 12-MONTH CONTRACTS FOR THOSE AGENCIES THAT GOT AN EIGHT-MONTH CONTRACT, WE WOULD DO A 12-MONTH CONTRACT, DO THE SOLICITATION IN THE SPRING, AND BRING IT TO COUNCIL GOING FORWARD IN THE FISCAL YEAR '27 BUDGET. SO THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE SOLICITATION FOR DELEGATE AGENCY? >> MAYOR JONES: CHAIR VIAGRAN? >> VIAGRAN: YEAH. WHEN WAS MELODY'S ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR. >> WALSH: I THINK IT WAS COMING TO COUNCIL ON MAY 8TH FOR FINAL. >> WOOSLEY: THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE ISSUED DECEMBER 1ST. >> VIAGRAN: MAY OF NEXT YEAR? IF YOU COULD GET -- I WOULD WANT TO SEE A MEETING -- I WANT TO KIND OF WEIGH, LIKE, THE GROUPS, THE ORGANIZATIONS AND THE MONTHS, SO IF WE COULD GET A MEETING BEFOREHAND, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT IDEA, BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMING UNTIL MAY 8TH, BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK AS A COUNCILMEMBER MORE WITH MELODY. AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH OUR TABLETOP EXERCISES, SO WE'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE AT. SO AS LONG AS -- I THOUGHT IT WAS AGENDIZED FOR LIKE DECEMBER. >> WALSH: WE'RE SCHEDULED TO DO -- BASED ON THE SCHEDULE WE GAVE YOU EARLIER, MEL, THE RFP'S GOING OUT IN -- >> WOOSLEY: DECEMBER 1ST. >> WALSH: DECEMBER 1ST. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S GOING OUT THIS WEEK ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. WE NEED TO PREPARE ALL THE DOCUMENTS, THOUGH. >> VIAGRAN: YEAH. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING BEFORE WE DECIDE EITHER WAY. >> WALSH: OKAY. >> VIAGRAN: BUT, YEAH, JUST WITH THE AGENCIES THAT WE HAVE GOING, AND THEN THE RFP PROCESS, AND PART OF IT IS BECAUSE FOR SOME NONPROFITS, THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, IF I -- WE JUST KNOW THERE ARE SOME NONPROFITS THAT ARE KIND OF WAITING AND HAVE BEEN IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS RFP COMING OUT, AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO -- >> WOOSLEY: SURE. >> VIAGRAN: YEAH. COUNCILWOMAN, IF I MAY, MAYBE THIS HELPS A LITTLE BIT, SO THE BUDGET ORDINANCE AUTHORIZED CONTRACTS FOR EIGHT MONTHS. IF YOU WILL CHOOSE TO EXTEND THOSE AN ADDITIONAL FOUR MONTHS, THEN THAT ACTION HAS TO COME BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL IN AN A SE SESSION SO WE CAN AMEND WHAT YOU APPROVED IN THE BUDGET ORDINANCE, SO THAT WAY THOSE AGENCIES KNOW THEY'RE GETTING FUNDED FOR THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR '26, AND THEN THE PROCESS FOR FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR '27 WILL BE DONE AT A LATER DATE, AND WE CAN COME BACK, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE TABLETOP RESULTS ARE DISCUSSED BY THE COUNCIL. >> VIAGRAN: SO EITHER WAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THIS BACK TO AN A SESSION -- >> VILLAGOMEZ: IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO POSTPONE THE SOLICITATION PROCESS AND AMEND THOSE CONTRACTS TO ADD FOUR MONTHS -- AT AN A SESSION. >> VIAGRAN: OKAY. THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY GIVE TIME FOR MELODY TO TALK WITH COUNCILMEMBERS REGARDING THAT, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A VERY INTERESTING A SESSION. >> WALSH: AND MAYBE THIS WILL BE HELPFUL. WE'LL DO -- IF WE DO THAT, WE NEED TO DO A SIDE BY SIDE SO THAT YOU SEE THE MOVING PIECES AND THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH BOTH OPTIONS. AND WE CAN DO THAT. >> MAYOR JONES: CHAIR MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR. IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. I'M WONDERING WHY THE FOUR-MONTH EXTENSION VERSUS TWO MONTHS. WHEN DO WE THINK -- I GUESS, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL HAVE WAY MORE QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE TABLETOP EXERCISE, BUT WE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM AND ALL OF THE AREAS THAT ARE HIGH PRIORITY FOR US AND THE AREAS THAT WILL MOST LIKELY BE IMPACTED BY ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. I'M WONDERING, THOUGH, COULD WE JUST DELAY THE REQUEST FOR -- THE RFP OPENING UNTIL FEBRUARY OR SO, AND THEN CHANGING MAYBE THE PERIOD BETWEEN THE RFP CLOSING AND THE A SESSION THAT WE APPROVE THE ITEMS? I JUST DON'T KNOW, DOES IT HAVE TO BE FROM EIGHT TO 12, OR CAN WE JUST GO TO 10 MONTHS, SO IT'S TWO-MONTH DELAY? >> WALSH: SO, WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF TIME TO THINK THROUGH THIS. I THINK WE HAD AN INDICATION THAT THIS WAS A POTENTIAL ISSUE THAT MAY COME UP. I'D SAY NO, BECAUSE THAT MEANS FUNDING WOULD -- RATHER THAN START ON JUNE 1ST, WOULD START ON AUGUST 1ST. THE COUNCIL DOESN'T MEET IN JULY, WE'RE WORKING ON BUDGET, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE REALLY HAD A CHANCE TO KIND OF THINK THROUGH, [03:05:02] CAN WE SQUEEZE DOWN SOMEWHERE IN THE -- IN THE SOLICITATION PROCESS AND STILL HIT IT IF WE DELAY THE SOLICITATION, BUT, NO, I -- I THINK -- I DON'T THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO DO IT WE REMEMBER FROM THE AGENCY'S STANDPOINT, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO RESPOND TO AN RFP LAST SPRING. WE SAID NO, WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND, WE'RE GOING DO EIGHT MONTHS, AND SO WE NEED TO GIVE THEM NOTICE AND I WOULD SAY GETTING TWO MONTHS OF FUNDING WOULD NOT BE PROBABLY WORTH THEIR TIME. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE THAT I THINK INFORMS MY FEEDBACK IS WHAT DO WE ANTICIPATE WILL ACTUALLY CHANGE AS A RESULT OF THIS TABLETOP EXERCISE AND THIS DISCUSSION? DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE THE FOCUS AREAS OR THE TYPES OF CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE? WILL WE SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AWAY WITH DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDING AND FUND THESE AREAS INSTEAD? I GUESS, WHAT ARE WE ANTICIPATING HAPPENING THAT -- >> WALSH: WELL, I'M GOING TO -- I'LL REPEAT WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, BUT -- WHAT THE MAYOR SAID EARLIER WAS THAT IT MAY INFORM THE COUNCIL ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD EXECUTE SOME DECISIONS BASED ON THAT SOLICITATION OR NOT. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK SHE'S ASKING FOR, DO YOU WAIT TO FIND THE RESULTS. THE OTHER BACK END OF THAT IS WE'RE GOING TO -- I JUST SAID TO THE COUNCILMAN, WE'RE NOT COMING BACK WITH ANY ANSWERS, SO I THINK -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REALLY GOING TO -- IF IT REALLY MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: FOR SURE. >> WALSH: BUT -- AND THE OTHER THING IS, IF WE GO THROUGH A SOLICITATION AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN B SESSION WITH THE SPRING WITH THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS, THE COUNCIL MAY SAY, WE'RE NOT DOING ANY OF IT, OR WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO HALF OF IT BECAUSE WE WANT DO X, Y, Z. JUST BECAUSE WE GO THROUGH THE SOLICITATION DOES NOT MEAN WE'RE VETTED TO IT UNTIL YOU GUYS VOTE TO HA APPROVE IT. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: HOW LONG WERE THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTS THAT WE EXTENDED IN THE SPRING? WERE THOSE TWO YEARS? >> WOOSLEY: IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 12 MONTHS WITH ONE-YEAR RENEWAL. A TWO-YEAR CYCLE. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I GUESS JUST NOT MAKING A DECISION OR EXTENDING CONTRACTS, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY MAKING A FUNDING DECISION THAT EQUALS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION REMAINS, I GUESS, FOR YOU, MAYOR, WOULD BE WHAT DO WE ANTICIPATE WOULD BE THE MAJOR DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING AS IT RELATES TO DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDING. >> MAYOR JONES: WELL, THAT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SCENARIOS THAT WE SETTLE ON, RIGHT? BASED ON THE INPUT THAT YOU'VE HEARD HERE, AS YOU ALL PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT, HEY, ACTUALLY, INSTEAD OF MY SUGGESTED SHUN OF LOSS OF 50% OF HEALTH AND SERVICES , ARE THERE OTHER THINGS YOU WANT TO LOOK AT. AND THEN WHEN YOU ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, MAYBE THE DISTRIBUTION ON SLIDE 5 OF THE FIRST PRESENTATION ISN'T EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT IT TO BE, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT KIND OF -- A THIRD OF THAT GOING TO CHILDREN AND YOUTH, YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE GOING TO STRENGTHENING FAMILY. MAYBE IT CHANGES HOW YOU DIVVY THAT UP. IT ALSO MAY CHANGE SOME OF THE PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT. AS WE KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, CHIP AND SNAP ARE GOING AWAY, MAYBE IT'S LESS ABOUT DROPOUT RATES AND MORE ABOUT FOOD SECURITY FOR THE KIDS, AND THEN THAT THEN DRIVES A DIFFERENT SET OF NONPROFIT ENTITIES THAT YOU WOULD THEN END UP FUNDING AND PRIORITYITIZING AS PART OF THIS. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: GOT YOU. I GUESS I'LL SAY IT'S WORTH HAVING A ROBUST DISCUSSION AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE WE ANGER TOO MANY PEOPLE BY EXTENDING CONTRACTS, BUT I DO THINK WE NEEZ TO MOVE FORWARD AS AAHSLY AS POSSIBLE AND START HAVING THAT CONVERSATION QUICKLY AS COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN HAD MENTIONED. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR THAT. IT'S REALLY -- I THINK WE ALL WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FUNDING THE GROUPS EXPEDITIOUSLY, BUT FUNDING THE RIGHT GROUPS, RIGHT, BASED ON WHAT WE UNDERSTAND TO BE THE CHANGES IN HERE. OKAY. WHO ELSE HAVE WE GOT? COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO, PLEASE. >> CASTILLO: THE EXPECTATION OUTCOMES OF THE TABLETOP EXERCISE, I UNDERSTAND HAVING MORE INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE PARAMETERS IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS RFP CAN POTENTIALLY CHANGE TO, BUT I'D LIKE TO TRUST THAT MY COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND THEIR DISTRICTS AND UNDERSTANDER WHAT THESE FEDERAL CUTS AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO IMPACT OUR CONSTITUENCIES. I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE DELAY AGAIN WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THIS RFP MOVES IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SA FORWARD PLAN, THE UTSA VIOLENT PLAN AND THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS BECAUSE THEY WILL OVERALL IMPACT THE HEALTH WITHIN SAN ANTONIO'S ECOSYSTEM, BUT ALL THAT TO SAY, I DO BELIEVE THERE IS VALUE IN THE TABLETOP EXERCISE, BUT ULTIMATELY, IF WE [03:10:04] DON'T HAVE AN ADDITIONAL BUCKET OF MONEY FOR US TO IDENTIFY HOW WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT WHAT WE IDENTIFY AS A NEED, I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE PUTTING IT ON HOLD WHEN WE KNOW THERE'S CURRENT NEEDS, NONPROFITS PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES, BUT I DO THINK THERE IS VALUE IN TALKING ABOUT WHETHER IT'S A POTENTIAL -- WHAT FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHAT INCREASES LOOK LIKE AND HOW WE CAN FIND THAT GAP. BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE EXERCISE ISN'T GOING TO POINT US TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT, I HAVE CONCERN. I THINK THAT'S THE EXPECTATION, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY WITH WHAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING? >> MAYOR JONES: THE -- YEAH, TH THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO. YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT GOING TO TELL US OR SHOW US WHERE MORE MONEY IS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO -- IF WE IDENTIFY THAT GAP AS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT -- THAT WE FIND TO BE UNSATISFACTORY, WE, THEN, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, ERIK, HOW MIGHT WE PAY FOR THIS? WHERE ARE POTENTIAL BUCKETS? AND WHILE WE MIGHT NOT KNOW OF THOSE YET, UNDERSTANDING THE SCALE AND SCOPE OF THE GAPS WILL THEN HELP US UNDERSTAND, FRANKLY, HOW AGGRESSIVELY WE ASK ERIK, GO FIND THAT MONEY. BECAUSE THE MONEY DOES EXIST. FUNDING IT OR NOT FUNDING IT IS A CHOICE, RIGHT? THERE ARE WAYS IN WHICH WE KNOW WE COULD FUND THIS IF WE WANTED TO, BUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE GAP IS, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE BILL MAY BE, AND THEN MAKING A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER WE DO OR DO NOT FUND THAT IS A DECISION IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT JUST BECAUSE WE MIGHT NOT KNOW WHERE IT MIGHT BE -- WHERE IT MAY BE FUNDED FROM TODAY IS -- IS -- IS PART OF THIS, BUT IS NOT NECESSARILY, I THINK, A REASON AS TO WHY WE MIGHT NOT CONSIDER POTENTIALLY FUNDING SOME OF THOSE THINGS. WHO ELSE HAVE WE GOT? COUNCILWOMAN MEZA GONZALEZ. >> GONZALEZ: I'M NOT COMFORTABLE DELAYING THE DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDING. THE TABLETOP IS AN EXERCISE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDING, BECAUSE THESE ARE REAL IMPLICATIONS THAT NONPROFITS ARE WORKING ON, AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE GET PRESENTATIONS LIKE THIS, TWO PRESENTATIONS IN ONE B SESSION THAT WITHOUT ADVANCED UNDERSTANDING BEING ASKED TO ESSENTIALLY CONNECT THE TWO, RIGHT, AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME TIME TO DELIBERATE ON BIG QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET INTO THAT HABIT OF DOING THAT, BUT, YEAH, I WANT TO JUST CONTINUE THAT DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDING FOR THE NONPROFITS THAT WERE HERE AND THAT ARE WAITING FOR THIS. >> MAYOR JONES: ERIK, CAN YOU PLEASE SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU'VE HEARD HERE IN THE LAST ROUND? >> WALSH: SO, MAYOR, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS AFTERNOON'S CONVERSATION, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS ON THE SOLICITATION REGARDING SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, WE'LL MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ON THAT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO -- AT THIS POINT, IN THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO TO THE COUNCIL, WE'LL LAY OUT THE TIMELINE AND WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON TRACK WITH THE SCHEDULE THAT WE OUTLINED. AND PROVIDE ANY INDIVIDUAL -- IF THERE'S INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSIONS THAT INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS WANT TO HAVE ABOUT TIMING, WE'LL DO THAT. WE'LL STAY ON TRACK. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO GIVE THAT TO THE COUNCIL, THE FEEDBACK WE GET ON THE EXERCISE. I'M COMBINING THE TWO THINGS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO SUMMARIZE BOTH, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT BACK TO YOU BY NEXT WEDNESDAYMENT I THINK WE'LL TARGET TO GET BACK TO THE COUNCIL BY NEXT WEDNESDAY ALSO THE WRAPUP SUMMARY OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING BASED ON THE DELEGATE AGENCY CONVERSATION. SO NEXT WEDNESDAY, WE'LL GET BOTH OF THOSE BACK TO YOU IN SEPARATE MEMOS, THAT WAY YOU CAN ASCERTAIN AND PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK. WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE RUNWAY TIME ON BOTH OF THEM, AND IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATIONS OR YOU THINK OF SOMETHING, DON'T HESITATE TO LET US KNOW. >> MAYOR JONES: THANKS, ERIK. THANKS, AGAIN, MELODY, TO YOUR TEAM, THANKS, JUSTINA, FOR LAYING THAT OUT FOR US. THANKS, CHIEF AS WELL, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE GOOD DISCUSSION. THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION THE TIME IS NOW 5:14 P.M. AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.