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YEAH, WAS THAT THE BABY OR THE CAT? ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
ALRIGHT, UM, BEFORE WE BEGIN, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT EARLY VOTING IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
SO GET OUT AND VOTE, UH, EITHER EARLY OR ON THE DAY OF.
MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
THE TIME IS ONE OH TWO AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION.
UH, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I REPRESENT DISTRICT SEVEN.
DANNY KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WHITSETT, DISTRICT 10 MOSES VE, DISTRICT NINE, KEN HUI, DISTRICT SIX, MIA LOS DISTRICT SIX TWO.
DISTRICT TWO
EDDIE RODRIGUEZ, DISTRICT FOUR, JANELLE CHASE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
ALRIGHT, STAFF IS THE QUORUM PRESENT? YES, THE QUORUM IS PRESENT.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? ALLEGIANCE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS FOR ALL GOD INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
ALL RIGHT, AS WE BEGIN OUR HEARING, UM, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES.
UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION IN ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST.
FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST A PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.
AND PLEASE ANNOUNCE THAT WHEN THAT SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM THAT YOU ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME.
THE APPLICANT THEN WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
AND ALSO I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT THAT WE DO HAVE OUR, UH, AGENDA HERE POSTED BUT WE DO NOT HAVE PRINTOUTS AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF FOLKS, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESPECTFUL TO OUR STAFF AND NOT YELL OR CAUSE ANY CON ISSUES OR YOU WILL BE REQUESTED TO LEAVE.
AND LET ME JUST FOLLOW THAT WITH UH, POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
AT THIS POINT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, WE ANTICIPATE AND EXPECT ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO BEHAVE AND COMPORT THEMSELVES POLITELY.
THE REASON THAT IS NOT HANDED OUT IS BECAUSE IT CHANGES AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THE MEETING AS WE GET READY TO BEGIN.
IF YOU INTERRUPT ME, IF YOU INTERRUPT ME AGAIN, YOU WILL
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BE ASKED TO LEAVE.SO WE HAVE A WONDERFUL STAFF AND WE RELY ON THEM GREATLY, SO PLEASE TREAT THEM WITH RESPECT.
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STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS? YES WE DO.UM, THE ITEMS THAT ARE TO BE POSTPONED ARE ITEMS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, AND 11.
THEY ARE POSTPONED AND WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.
SO THEY WILL BE, WE WILL RE NOTIFY FOR THOSE ITEMS AND LETTERS WILL BE SENT OUT WHEN THEY ARE RESCHEDULED.
SO AGAIN LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEMS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10 AND 11.
UNFORTUNATELY, UM, DUE TO THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN WE ARE NOT HEARING THOSE ITEMS. WE ARE RELYING ON AND WAITING FOR INFORMATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND WE WILL NOT HEAR THOSE ITEMS TODAY.
IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THEM, YOU WILL BE RENO IN THE SAME MANNER AS YOU WERE NOTICED FOR TODAY AND WE WILL HEAR THEM AGAIN.
ALRIGHT STAFF, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE AND JUST LIST THE ITEMS IF YOU WOULD.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, NUMBER 12, 14, 15, 16 AND 18.
OKAY, UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE COMBINED HEARING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE? LOOKING LEFT LOOKING RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER CHASE LOOKING REMOTELY.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD READ, PLEASE READ THE COMBINED HEARING ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R FOUR TO C TWO WITH ALL OVER RELEASE REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 7 5 0 COUPLES ROAD.
ZERO POST WESTWOOD SQUARE ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
THE APPLICANT WILL BE AMENDING THEIR RES THEIR REQUEST TO C TWO R.
A REQUESTS FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM RM FOUR TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH AN ALLOWANCE FOR OF FENCE HEIGHT OF UP TO EIGHT FEET LOCATED AT 4 3 3 SPRUCE STREET.
ALL OTHER OVER LEASE TO REMAIN THE SAME.
52 NOTICES MAILED TWO IN FAVOR.
ONE OF THOSE DE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
ITEM NUMBER 14, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM F-B-Z-S-D TO FBZT 41 LOCATED AT 8 1 8 BROOKLYN AVENUE.
ALL OTHER OVER LEAST TO REMAIN THE SAME.
24 NOTICES SENT ZERO IN FAVOR.
POST DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
ITEM 15 A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR A TATTOO PARLOR STUDIO LOCATED AT 25 27 GOAD ROAD.
ALL OTHER OVERLAY REMAINS THE SAME.
17 NOTICE AND SENT ZERO IN FAVOR OF ZERO POST HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 16, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM C ONE TO C TWO LOCATED AT 2315 BLANCO ROAD.
ALL OF AT LEAST REMAIN THE SAME.
27 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 18, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R SIX TO I ONE LOCATED AT 76 14 GRISSOM ROAD.
ALL OTHER OVERLAYS REMAIN THE SAME.
18 NOTICE SENT ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED? NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
UM, MR. DELGADO EG IF YOU WOULD COME UP PLEASE SIR, WOULD YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? UH, JUAN CARLOS EG DELGADO AND IT'S GONNA BE SEVEN 50 UH, COUPLES ROAD.
AND YOU'RE THE APPLICANT FOR THAT ITEM? YES.
UH, ARE YOU AMENDING YOUR REQUEST TO C TWO R? YES.
ALRIGHT, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AS AMENDED.
ITEM 12, ITEM 14, ITEM 15, ITEM 16 AND ITEM 18.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
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HINOJOSA AS A SECOND.ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE.
LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE, NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS. 8 12 14 15 16, 18.
UH, YOU'RE MOVING ON TO CITY COUNCIL, YOU HAVE TO BE THERE WITHIN SIX MONTHS AND CONGRATULATIONS.
UH, YOU CAN ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR AFTERNOON.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR FIRST CONTINUANCE HEARING DOCKET, WHICH IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025.
ITEM NUMBER NINE AND ITEM NUMBER 21 ARE REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE AND 22.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? I MOVE TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025.
ITEM NUMBER NINE, ITEM 21 AND ITEM 22? UH, YES MA'AM.
ARE YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, THERE IS.
WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, IS IT VOICEMAIL OR SPEAKERS? YOU HAVE A SPEAKER? OKAY.
IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE THE SPEAKER LOUIS PERKINS.
MS. PERKINS, IF YOU WOULD JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU GET UP HERE.
SIR, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
MY NAME IS LO PERKINS AND I'M HERE FOR THE COUNCIL DISTRICT 2 4 7 0 1 INDIANA STREET.
AND THE REASON I'M HERE IS THE IMPACT.
THEY'RE WANNA DO A REZONING, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE EVER TAKEN TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THE TRAFFIC.
THE SCHOOL, WHENEVER THERE'S AN EVENT AT THAT SCHOOL, THE TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP FROM OLIVE AND INDIANA ALL THE WAY UP TO VIRGINIA STREET ON INDIANA STREET UP TO HACKBERRY POLICE OFFICER ARE TAKING IN PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING ON THE STREET.
SO I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING THIS, IF THEY'RE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, THE PARKING AND WHERE I LIVE, WHERE THEY ARE, MY UH, DRIVEWAY IS USUALLY BLOCKED, YOU KNOW, IF I WANTED TO USE IT.
I COULDN'T GET IN WHEN SOMETHING IS GOING ON AT THE SCHOOL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE CONSIDERING WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PARK AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PARK, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE BUILDING THESE HOMES FOR.
'CAUSE IT IS A PROBLEM CONGESTION WITH PARK.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. PERKINS.
UM, WHO'S THE CASE MANAGER ON THIS ONE? 22 FOREST.
MS. PERKINS, IF YOU'D GET WITH MR. WILSON OVER HERE, UH, HE CAN HELP YOU OUT AND I BETCHA COMMISSIONER LO'S GONNA WANNA SPEAK TO YOU AS WELL.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR TO CONTINUE ITEMS 9 21 AND 22 TO NOVEMBER 4TH BY, UH, COMMISSIONER HUEY.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT, LOOKING RIGHT, LOOKING REMOTELY, SAYING NONE.
COMMISSIONER PIE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT CONTINUANCE HEARING.
SORRY, ANYONE WHO'S HERE FOR 9 21 AND 22, AGAIN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO ON YOUR WAY.
UH, WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR SECOND CONTINUANCE HEARING DOCKET, WHICH IS CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 18TH.
UM, STAFF, IF YOU WOULD READ THAT ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS REQUESTING A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE AND I NEED TO USE MY READING GLASSES AS WELL TODAY.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 13 IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 18TH.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
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ALL RIGHT.FOR ONCE I GET IT RIGHT, UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA TO YOU FOR A MOTION CONTINUANCE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, CONTINUES UNTIL THE 11 18 25 MEETING.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 13 TO NOVEMBER 18TH BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION LOOKING LEFT? SEEING NONE.
IF YOU'RE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 13, WE WILL SEE YOU IN GIVE OR TAKE FOUR WEEKS.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING DOCKET STAFF.
IF YOU WOULD CALL THE FIRST ITEM, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS ARD GOMEZ, ZONING SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS LOCATED AT 4 0 2 EARL STREET, GOING FROM C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C3 S GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR CABINET OR CARPENTRY SHOP.
THERE WERE 24 NOTICES MAILED OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO POST THE MONTE VISTA TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATIONS TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON THE SOUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED AS C3 MF 33 R FIVE.
THE EXISTING C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C3 S GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CABINET SHOP OR CARPENTRY SHOP IS ALSO NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE PROPOSED, THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IN THE ZONING IS TO OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE NEW TENANT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED BETWEEN AN AUTO REPAIR FACILITY AND THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD TRACKS ALONG AN ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, BUT IS IN PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED THROUGH A LOCAL STREET WHICH MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR ITEM NUMBER 17, PLEASE.
AND SIR, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US YOUR, UH, RONALD MATTAR, UM, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND ALSO THE TENANT.
UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO BRING A COUPLE, 4 0 2 OR STREET.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS, UM, JUST A QUICK, A FEW POINTS IN LIGHT OF THE CITY'S HESITATION, UH, DUE TO THE GUIDELINES THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.
UM, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHO WE ARE.
WE'RE MODERN WOODS'S CABINETRY.
BASICALLY OUR BUSINESS IS, WE HAVE A SHOWROOM RIGHT NOW IN THAT BUILDING.
CUSTOMERS COME, THEY TAKE A LOOK, CHOOSE WHAT KIND OF CABINET THEY WANT, AND WE ORDER IT AND DELIVER IT FOR THEM.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO IT, CUT IT DOWN, THE PANTRY'S, THE TALL, THE VANITY, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO MAKE THE SPACE, UH, AND TO FIT THE CABINETRY WITHIN.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE A TABLE SAW IN THERE, OR ANY EQUIPMENT TO MODIFY THE CITY REQUIRES US TO CHANGE OUR OCCUPANCY TO A CABINET SHOP.
SO THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
UH, REALLY IT'S A TECHNICALITY AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, BUT WE DO WANNA FOLLOW ALL THE CITY'S GUIDELINES.
I, I, BY TRADE, I'M AN ELECTRICAL CONTRACT, THE LICENSE BOND AND INSURED.
I DEAL WITH THE CITY ON A REGULAR BASIS, PULLING PERMITS AND, AND, AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UM, POINT NUMBER ONE, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE WAS NO PUSHBACK BY OUR NEIGHBORS OR COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL ONES.
UH, THE SECOND, THE SECOND POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, WE HAVE FOLLOWED THE CITY'S GUIDELINES.
THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE, UH, CAME BEFORE WE DID ANY, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING TO SEE WHAT IS REQUIRED.
UM, THERE'S NO CITATIONS, RED FLAGS OR ANY CODE VIOLATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR PROJECT.
UH, AND AGAIN, WE UNDERSTAND THE CITY STAFF'S HESITATION DUE TO THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAP TO OUR LEFT, WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL CAR DEALERSHIP TO OUR RIGHT, WE HAVE A JAGUAR REPAIR CENTER.
YOU KNOW, THEY DO TRANSMISSION FLUIDS, UH, ENGINE REPLACEMENTS, UM, UH, FON FOR THE AC CHARGE.
WE HAVE NO CHEMICALS ONSITE WHATSOEVER.
AND PLEASE, UM, TAKE NOTE OF THAT, THAT THERE'S A RAILROAD TRACK RIGHT NEXT TO US.
NOW, IT MIGHT MIGHT NOT MAKE MUCH SENSE TO YOU, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT
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THERE IS NO TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT IS GONNA BE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CHANGE.AND RIGHT NOW WE OPERATE ON APPOINTMENT ONLY, SO OUR BUSINESS HOURS AGAIN, WILL NOT CHANGE.
SO THERE'S LITERALLY VIRTUALLY NO CHANGE TO IT.
UM, ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT.
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL C3 AND, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UDC CODE THREE 11 DASH TWO, THE TABLE.
IT ALLOWS US TO CHANGE IT TO A CABINETRY ACCORDING TO OUR USE.
AND WE HAVE ACCESS NOT ONLY FROM EARL STREET, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ACCESS ON ALMOST STREET, WHICH AGAIN, ALMOST CORRIDOR YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALL COMMERCIAL.
AND ACROSS THE WAY FROM US THERE'S AN HEB, WHICH IS INDUSTRIAL.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A STORAGE FACILITY, WHICH IS INDUSTRIAL.
SO WE ARE IN LINE WITH THE, THE, THE EXISTING USAGE.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST POINT I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP IS THAT I KNOW YOU GUYS LISTEN TO CASES ALL THE TIME.
DEVELOPERS COME IN, THEY DESIRE TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
UH, ONCE THIS ZONING GOES THROUGH, AND AGAIN, IT'S THE TECHNICALITY.
I AM NOT LOOKING TO EXIT THIS PROPERTY AND HAVE SOMEBODY COME AND DEVELOP ANYTHING.
THERE WILL BE NO DEVELOPMENT WHATSOEVER.
NOTHING'S GONNA CHANGE ABOUT IT OTHER THAN GRANTING US A DIFFERENT, UM, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IN ORDER TO CONTINUE OUR BUSINESS AND SERVE OUR CLIENTS, UM, WITH FLEXIBILITY TO STAY COMPETITIVE.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
I, I'D RECOMMEND YOU JUST STAY UP HERE FOR RIGHT NOW.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER KELLUM TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN EXISTENCE? THE BUSINESS? UH, OVER A YEAR.
AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE, YOUR BUSINESS, UM, THE PROCESSES, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE THE SAME.
EVERYTHING IS GONNA STAY THE SAME.
SO I, I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK THAT THIS IS GONNA BE LIKE A MANUFACTURING FELL SEA LIKE IKEA, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA START BUILDING.
THERE'S, THERE'S SMOKE GOING UP.
I I'M, I'M IN BUSINESS WITH MY BROTHER WHO'S ALSO THE OWNER.
SO, UH, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY THIRD QUESTION.
SO THERE'S JUST THE TWO OF Y'ALL THAT ARE THERE, CORRECT? PARKING'S NOT AN ISSUE.
WE ACTUALLY EXPANDED OUR PARKING AGAIN TO THE CITY'S GUIDELINES, WHICH WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OF A GRIEVANCE ON US, BUT WE FOLLOWED THROUGH AND, AND WANTED TO BE IN LINE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY REQUIRED.
THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, CHAIR.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER SIPES QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, YOU MENTIONED, UM, ALMOST BEING AN, UH, YOU'RE BORDERING THAT AS WELL.
WHERE WOULD MOST OF YOUR, I GUESS, TRAFFIC, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, WHERE WOULD THEY COME IN FROM? WOULD IT BE FROM ALMOS OR, OR FROM EARL AS WELL? IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY FROM ALMO BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A STOREFRONT IS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER'S ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER CHASE, I HAVE A, A FEW BRIEF QUESTIONS.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS RAISED BY STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY NOISE AND I UNDERSTAND CORRECT.
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TABLE SAW.
UH, WOULD YOU BE A MINIMAL TO POTENTIALLY HAVING SOME HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE SPECIFIC USE? NO.
IT'S NOT MY DESIRE TO WORK TILL MIDNIGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, UH, IT NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS JUST AS THE, THE AUTOMOTIVE SHOP NEXT DOOR.
UH, AND THE AUTOMOTIVE SHOP NEXT DOOR ACTUALLY HAS A COMPRESSOR OUTSIDE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? UH, THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, YOU GO FURTHER DOWN EARL STREET ON BOTH SIDES.
THERE'S A CAR DEALERSHIP, THEY DO TRANSMISSION CHANGES, THE, THE WHOLE THING.
SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA STAY IN LINE WITH THAT.
SO A QUESTION FOR YOU STAFF, UH, IF WE WANTED TO ADD HOURS OF OPERATION THAT APPLIED TO THE SPECIFIC USE WE CAN DO SO, CORRECT? CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER KELLY? JUST WHAT ARE WE PROPOSING? HOURS OF OPERATION? I, I AM NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING 'CAUSE IT'S NOT MY, UH, YEAH, YEAH, NOT MY DEAL.
COMMISSIONER DUVET TO, UH, IF, IF YOU SEE THE WAY THAT YES.
COULD YOU GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT AS TO THE, THE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE UH, UH, REQUESTED MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU MAKE? HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE MODIFICATIONS? HOW FREQUENT IS IT? YEAH, WELL, WELL AS OF RIGHT NOW, AS YOU AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S HUGE IMPACT ON TARIFFS, RIGHT? SO, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GO WITH NECESSARILY, UM, IMPORTED STUFF, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN TAKE IMPORTED STUFF THAT'S IN STOCK AND JUST MODIFY IT A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, SO IT, IT'S NOT LIKE, AGAIN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GONNA START MASS PRODUCING, BUT WE WANT HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY
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TO GIVE OUR CUSTOMERS THAT OPTION TO STAY COMPETITIVE IN THIS MARKET.COMMISSIONER DOBELL, ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, JUST IF YOU COULD GIVE US, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? IF WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AND TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT CLINICIONS WE COULD PUT TO MAKE THE PROJECT WORK.
SO MODIFICATIONS NOT MANUFACTURING, I MEAN IT, IT WOULD BE MANUFACTURING AT, AT AT SOME POINT AS WELL, BUT THE IDEA IS TO START WITH JUST MODIFICATIONS TO EXISTING STUFF.
CLEARLY TO PUT SOME, SOME EQUIPMENT THAT THAT'S WORK WOULD WORK IN THERE.
AGAIN, OUR OUR, WE'RE NOT A MANUFACTURER, WHICH THAT IS NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO HAVE MANUFACTURING IN THERE, BUT WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A CABINET SHOP UNDER THOSE MANUFACTURING WOULD FALL ON THE INDUSTRIAL, WHICH THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT ZONING PROCESS.
COMMISSIONER KELLUM, ANYTHING FURTHER? NO SIR.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
UH, LET ME ASK THE DIRECT QUESTION THEN.
WOULD LIMITATION, UH, FROM SEVEN TO SEVEN MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY WORK? UH, THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN I ASK FOR.
UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER KELLUM, IT IS TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
UH, I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT COMING TODAY.
I APPRECIATE THE STAFF DOING THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
UH, I'VE BEEN DOWN ALMOST A MILLION TIMES AND I'VE NEVER BEEN IMPACTED BY YOUR BUSINESS OR AT LEAST NOTICED SOME ADVERSE EFFECT WITH THAT.
AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL RESPECTFULLY MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE HOUR LIMITATIONS OF SEVEN TO SEVEN MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
THERE'S, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UH, OF ITEM NUMBER 17, UH, WITH A LIMITATION OF HOURS MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, SEVEN TO SEVEN.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND COMMISSIONER? WHAT'S IT? ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
I'LL BE SO BRIEF JUST TO SAY I USED TO LIVE OVER THERE AND MY, UM, SISTER BOUGHT HER FIRST CAR AT LUNA.
AND I THINK THAT WHOLE AREA IS LIKE VERY MUCH MATCHES THE USE, I THINK.
UM, KNOWING HE B'S OVER THERE, I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S RIGHT NEXT TO YOU, BUT I THINK THE RAILROAD IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD DIVISION.
SO YEAH, I THINK THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT COMMISSIONER CHASE.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 17 WITH THE LIMITATION OF HOURS OF OPERATION MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, SEVEN TO SEVEN BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TSET.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT ITEM PLEASE.
MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEDA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS LOCATED AT 3 3 7 1 ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
GOING FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO IDZ TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PARTY, HOUSE RECEPTION HALL AND MEETING FACILITY BINGO, PARLOR AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK, NOT INCLUDING FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 23 NOTICES MAILED NINE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET NINE IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED.
C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IDZ IN INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE RECEPTION HALL MEETING FACILITY.
THE EXISTING C TWO DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED IDZ TWO DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION HALL AND MEETING FACILITY BINGO PARLOR AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK, NOT INCLUDING FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE REQUEST WOULD PERMIT THE UTILIZATION OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AS A RENTAL VENUE FOR VARIOUS EVENTS.
WHILE THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES AND ZONES TO THE WEST, THEY'RE SEPARATED BY AN EXISTING ALLEYWAY PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER FROM THE REQUESTED COMMERCIAL USES.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, MAKING THE PROPOSAL CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
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PLAN WOULD ALSO PREVENT EXPANSION OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND WOULD ENSURE ADEQUATE PARKING IS AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES.DEVIATION FROM THE APPROVED DOCUMENT COULD POTENTIALLY WARRANT ADDITIONAL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
IS THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT PRESENT A POWERPOINT? THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS MITSUKO RAMOS WITH GOVERNMENT RELATIONS GROUP OF TEXAS.
I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER, GARCIA PROPERTIES INC.
AND, UH, GARCIA EVENT CENTERS.
THIS IS AT 3 3 7 1 ROOSEVELT AVENUE IN DISTRICT THREE.
UM, THE PROPERTY SUMMARY SHOWS THE PHOTO OF THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE EXISTING, UH, STRUCTURE, UH, WHICH IS VACANT AND IT'S, UH, ON AN APPROXIMATE 2.0638 ACRE LOT.
UM, RIGHT NOW IT IS VACANT AND IT ATTRACTS, UH, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, UH, IN THE ALLEYWAY THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS A, UH, CPS ENERGY ELECTRIC EASEMENT.
UH, THE PROPERTY'S ALSO LOCATED IN A STATE ENTERPRISE ZONE, WHICH, UH, IS AN ALIGHTED AREA AND REQUIRES, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME INVESTMENT TO MAKE IT OPERABLE AGAIN.
UH, THE EVENT CENTER IS PROPOSED TO BE CALLED THE ROOSEVELT ARTS AND EVENT CENTER.
UH, GARCIA EVENT CENTERS IS A-S-M-B-E COMPANY THAT'S BEEN PROVIDING SERVICES SINCE 1979 IN THE AREA.
UM, THEY PROVIDE SAFE FAMILY FOCUSED BEAUTI, BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED EVENT CENTERS TO HOLD SPECIAL EVENTS, AND THEY'RE VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY WITH CHARITABLE EVENTS AS WELL.
UH, THE EXISTING ZONING OF C TWO DOES NOT ALLOW FOR AN EVENT CENTER, THEREFORE WE ARE REQUESTING THE REZONING TO IDZ TWO THAT REQUESTS THE SAME USES IN C TWO AS WELL AS, UM, THREE ADDITIONAL USES THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THE EVENT CENTER TO OPERATE.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE SOME RENOVATIONS PROPOSED TO THE, UM, THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE THAT WILL PROVIDE A ROOFTOP TERRACE AS WELL.
SO, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, ELLE, UH, THE GARCIA EVENT CENTERS, THEY ALSO ARE VERY INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THEY HAVE CLIENTS WHO HOST CHARITABLE EVENTS.
UM, THEY ALSO, UM, HOST IN COORDINATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S, UH, EVENTS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL SUCH AS PROMS AND ATHLETIC BANQUETS.
UM, I ALSO RECENTLY, UH, UH, WAS INTRODUCED TO THE S-A-I-S-D, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT TRUSTEE WHO WE WILL COORDINATE WITH AFTER THE ZONING CASE IS APPROVED, IF APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL TO COORDINATE, UM, WITH THEIR BAND TO INVITE THEIR, UH, BAND MEMBERS TO COME PLAY AT FOOD MARKETS THAT WE HOPE TO HOLD, UM, ON THE EXTERIOR IN THE PARKING LOT AREA AS WELL AS DURING SPECIAL EVENTS.
OKAY, SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE CONDITION OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND WE ALSO HAVE THE RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACADE.
WE HAVE THREE SEPARATE EVENT CENTER ROOMS AND THE, UM, EVENT CENTER ROOM LOCATED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PHOTO THERE ALSO HAS THE ROOFTOP TERRACE.
UM, THE RENOVATIONS WILL INCLUDE, AGAIN, THE NEW FACADE.
IT'LL INCLUDE POTTED PLANTS ALONG THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE, UH, SOME LANDSCAPING AT THE FRONTAGE OF, OF ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
SO THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND IT SHOWS THE ALLEYWAY RIGHT BEHIND, UM, THAT, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME CRIMINAL ACTIVITY BACK THERE.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO REPAY THE EXISTING PARKING LOT AND RES STRIPE IT.
UH, THE EXISTING BUFFER IN THE FRONT THAT HAS VEGETATION, THAT HAS WEEDS BASICALLY IS GONNA BE LANDSCAPED TO HAVE A ZERO SCAPING.
UM, IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE, UM, OR IMPROVE RATHER THE SECURITY IN THE AREA.
THERE'LL ALSO BE SOME EXTRA LIGHTING AND SECURITY CAMERAS.
WE'LL BE ALSO COORDINATING WITH CPS ENERGY TO SEE IF MAYBE WE CAN ALSO HAVE, UM, THEM INSTALL SOME SECURITY CAMERAS THAT WOULD BE GIFTED TO THEM ON THEIR POLES.
SO THIS SHOWS THE, UM, EXAMPLE OF SOME PLANTS THAT WILL BE PLANTED ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTO IN, UM, ABOVE, IT SHOWS THE EXISTING CONDITION AND THIS WILL HELP BEAUTIFY THE AREA.
UM, THIS IS A PHOTO THAT I TOOK ABOUT TWO
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MONTHS AGO OF THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS.UM, ALONG THE ALLEYWAY YOU'LL SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE THERE'S SOMEONE SLEEPING UNDER THE TREE, BUT ON THE LEFT SIDE, UM, THAT'S THE BACK AREA OF THE MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UM, YOU HAVE, UH, ENCAMPMENTS ACTUALLY END RIGHT BEHIND IN THEIR BACKYARDS, BASICALLY.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM.
UM, I SPOKE WITH JANE HENRY WITH MSS J AND A AND WE'RE HOPING TO COORDINATE WITH HER AND AS WELL AS SAPD AND UM, CPS ENERGY TO HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF THAT AREA.
SO THIS PROJECT IS A 2.5 MILLION INVESTMENT, UM, THAT INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND SO FORTH.
UM, THE PROJECT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE REVITALIZATION OF THE AREA AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'LL IMPROVE THE SAFETY FOR RESIDENTS.
IT'LL MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER INTEGRITY OF SAN JOSE MISSION, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, AND THE, UH, PERMITS THAT WILL BE APPROVED NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED BY, UM, OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND HDRC.
SO THAT WILL ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROJECT.
THE PROJECT WILL CREATE 40 OR MORE NEW JOBS, WHICH WILL IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THEY DO REACH OUT AND, UM, HAVE, UH, JOB MENTORSHIP PROGRAMS. UM, THEY'LL BE COORDINATING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, THEY'LL BE INSTALLING BICYCLE FACILITIES ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT REQUIRED RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY WANNA ENCOURAGE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION AND ALLOW PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEARBY TO, UH, BIKE TO THE AREA EITHER FOR WORK OR IF THEY'RE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AN EVENT.
AND OF COURSE, THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BEAUTIFY THE AREA WITH LANDSCAPING AND, UM, JUST IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE, I THINK IN GENERAL FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE, UM, SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.
SO THE SAN ANTONIO TOMORROW COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS A VISION OF, UM, PROVIDING ECONOMIC VITALITY ALONG THE MAJOR CORRIDORS.
SO THIS WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
THE ROOSEVELT ROOSEVELT CORRIDOR REINVESTMENT PLAN ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG ROOSEVELT AVENUE AND CREATE NEW JOBS.
SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT GOAL.
UM, THE PROJECT WILL ALSO IMPROVE CONDITIONS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, UM, WHICH WILL AGAIN GREAT, HAVE A GREAT IMPACT.
NOT ONLY DID WE SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH THE, UH, RESIDENTS WHO LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET, UM, MOST OF WHOM SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND HAVE PROVIDED THEIR WRITTEN, UH, SUPPORT FORMS AND LETTERS.
BUT WE'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES, AND THEY ARE JUST DESPERATE TO HAVE THE AREA IMPROVED SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE WALKING AROUND ON THEIR BREAKS OR JUST GOING TO WORK, THEY FEEL SAFER AND JUST, UH, IT'LL UPLIFT THEM AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE RECEIVED 16, UM, WRITTEN LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND FORMS THAT DESCRIBE THEIR, UM, THEIR HOPE FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE APPROVED WITH THE ZONING SO THAT IT CAN BE, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD OPERATE THE EVENT CENTER, UH, REVITALIZED THE AREA.
WE HAVE SEVEN RESIDENTS, UM, WHO LIVE BEHIND THE PROPERTY THAT EXPRESS A DESIRE FOR THE EVENT CENTER, BUT ALSO JUST A SAFER, UM, AREA IN GENERAL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING BUFFER MAP THAT I PROVIDED, YOU'LL SEE THE GREEN LITTLE STARS, UM, THAT SHOW THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS WHO LIVE BEHIND THE, UM, THE LOT WHO ARE, UH, IN SUPPORT AND HAVE PROVIDED US WITH WRITTEN SUPPORT THAT HAS BEEN, UM, FORWARDED TO, UH, THE COUNCIL WOMEN'S OFFICE AS WELL AS TO ZONING STAFF.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE AS, AS YOU SEE, THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE ALSO PROVIDED THEIR, THEIR WRITTEN SUPPORT FOR THIS.
UM, JUST NORTH OF THE PROPERTY, THERE'S TWO VACANT LOTS, UM, THAT'S OWNED BY, UH, GARCIA FAMILY, THE MR. ARTHUR GARCIA, UM, AND HIS BROTHER WHO OWNED NIETZSCHE'S RESTAURANT AND THEY'RE ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
THEY ENCOURAGE TO HAVE LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONTAGE, SO WE WILL, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE.
FINALLY, I JUST REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE ZONING CASE.
I TRIED TO SUMMARIZE AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM JUST WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE EXISTING ZONING IS C TWO, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR IDZ TWO, WHICH GIVES US INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE, WHICH WILL GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, DURING DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE PARTY HOUSE, RECEPTION HALL AND MEETING FACILITY IS BASICALLY THE LANGUAGE IN THE ZONING USE MATRIX THAT ALLOWS FOR EVENT CENTER.
UH, WE'RE ADDING BINGO PARLOR USED IN THERE AS WELL.
WE HAVE, UH, UH, USUALLY IT'S GOLDEN BINGO, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME BINGO HALL OPERATORS WHO WILL RENT OUT SPACES FOR THEIR CHARITABLE EVENTS INCLUDING, UM, ONE, UH, USUALLY ONE OF 'EM HAS LIKE A CHRISTMAS, UH, TOY GIVEAWAY PARTY THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE USE OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK TO ALLOW FOR LIVE MUSIC DURING FARMERS MARKET EVENTS, UM, IN THE PARKING LOT AREA AS WELL AS,
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UM, ON THE ROOFTOP TERRACE DURING WEDDING RECEPTIONS AND SO FORTH.AND I'M HERE FOR QUES, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. RAMOS.
UH, IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, VOICEMAILS AND SPEAKERS.
LET'S BEGIN WITH THE VOICEMAILS, BUT BEFORE WE DO, UH, DID ANYONE WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM LEAVE A VOICEMAIL? ANYONE? ANYONE? OKAY.
MR. RAMOS, IF YOU WOULD STEP BACK.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ANDREW DEA AND I'M CALLING IN APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT ON 33 71 ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
AGAIN, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT I BELIEVE IS MUCH NEEDED IN THE AREA.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO MANY RESIDENTS THAT LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE PROJECT THAT ARE IN APPROVAL AS WELL.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAD NO ONE THAT I SPOKE TO WAS IN OPPOSITION AT ALL.
EVERYONE WAS IN APPROVAL AS WELL BECAUSE IT, AGAIN, IT'S MUCH NEEDED IN THE AREA.
MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 7 2 4 9 7 4 7 AND MY ADDRESS IS 7 7 5 ALIA AVENUE, 7 8 2 2 1, AND THE D THREE.
HELLO, UM, I'M CALLING, UH, MY NAME IS ZACHARY HARRIS AND WE OWN PROPERTY, UH, ON AZAR STREET, 1 3 4 AZAR.
UM, AND, UH, AND WE ARE CALLING AN OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING REQUEST FOR 3 3 7 1 ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
AND WE WANNA REGISTER OUR OPPOSITION AND, UH, SUPPORT OF THE MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS ZACHARY HARRIS AND WE'RE CALLING IN OPPOSITION TO THE CASE FOR 3 3 7 1 ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
ALRIGHT, UH, FIRST SPEAKER PLEASE.
ZUNIGA, I'M GIVING MY TITLES TO THE, OKAY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YIELDING THEIR TIME? YES MA'AM.
WHAT, WHAT, WELL, WE CAN ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE, SO WHO WANTS TO GIVE UP THEIR TIME FRONT OR BACK? YOU, UH, ALRIGHT MA'AM, MA'AM, WOULD YOU SAY WHICH ONE Y'ALL PICK? ONLY TWO.
YOU GET THREE, YOU GET THREE TIMES THREE, YOU GET NINE MINUTES TOTAL.
MY NAME IS RA, I, I YIELD, I YIELD MY TIME TO JANE HENRY.
ALRIGHT, MS. CAVERA? YES, YOU'RE YIELDING TIME TO JANE HENRY AND MS. ANO, YOU'RE GIVING YOUR TIME TO JANE HENRY AS WELL.
UH, JANE HENRY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP NEXT? GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS JANE HENRY AND I'M PRESIDENT OF MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I LIVE AT 5 22 EAST DIXON AVENUE, WHICH IS ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK FROM THIS PROPOSED LOCATION, UH, EVENT CENTER AT 33 71 ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS, UH, MET ABOUT EIGHT TIMES WITH, UM, WITH MR. PETER GARCIA, UM, AT OUR MEETINGS, UH, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
UM, FIRST LET ME SAY THAT, UH, THE ZONING CASE FOR THE RECORD IS, UH, ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 5 1 0 7 2 3 1.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSING THIS PROPOSED REZONING.
UM, THE ADDRESS IS 3 3 7 1 ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
UM, WHEN MR. GARCIA FIRST CAME TO US TWO YEARS AGO, HE WANTED, UH, HE TOLD US ABOUT HIS PLANS FOR AN EVENT AND MINGO CENTER AND HE WITH, UM, ROOFTOP TERRACE.
HE, UH, WAS ASKING AT THAT TIME FOR IDZ
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THREE WITH USES IN, UM, C3 AND ALSO IN O2, AND WE HAD TO LOOK THAT ONE UP.UM, SINCE, SINCE THEN, I THINK HE SEEMS HE HAS DROPPED THE O2.
UM, DO I HAVE TO READ OUT THE ACTUAL NO, THANK YOU.
YOU'VE IDENTIFIED IT'S THE PROPERTY WELL ENOUGH.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THOUGH, ON THE, UM, I'LL SAVE THAT FOR LATER.
UM, YES, AT THE VERY FIRST MEETING WHEN HE, HE ATTENDED, UH, AND TOLD US ABOUT HIS PLANS AND EVERYONE OBJECTED IMMEDIATELY TO THE BINGO BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD THREE BINGO PARLORS IN, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE TWO WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS LOCATION AND, UM, UH, THE NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT BINGO.
UM, AND WE HAD A VOTE ON IT THEN UNANIMOUS AGAINST BINGO AT, UH, ANOTHER MEETING, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS LATER.
SAME THING, UNANIMOUS AGAINST BINGO.
UH, AND THEN, UH, RECENTLY LAST MAY WE HAD ANOTHER MEETING, UM, WITH A DIFFERENT APPROACH.
UM, WHO WANTS BINGO SILENT ROOM? NO SHOW OF HANDS.
AND FURTHERMORE, WE'VE DISCOVERED THERE'S, THERE'S SOME, THE TWO, THE THREE PARLORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT EXIST ALREADY HAVE DAYTIME AND EVENING HOURS, BECAUSE WE WERE WONDERING ABOUT WOULDN'T THIS COMPETE WITH THOSE EXISTING BINGO PARLORS? WELL, THIS WOULD BE, UM, I THINK IT'D BE VERY LIKELY THEY WOULD, HE WOULD ASK FOR A LATE NIGHT BINGO, WHICH CAN GO UNTIL 3 45 IN THE MORNING.
KEEP IN MIND THAT LATE NIGHT, BINGO, ALL BINGO GAMES ARE BYOB.
SO ESSENTIALLY A LATE NIGHT BINGO PLACE COULD BE, UM, UH, B-Y-O-B-D-D-I-Y, UH, AFTER HOURS BAR, AND THAT WOULD BE OF CONCERN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO I MEAN, HE, HE DIDN'T MENTION IT, BUT IT, WITH THIS ZONING THAT HE'S REQUESTING, HE WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT AT ANY TIME NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.
UM, HE, HE ALSO SAYS, UH, HE WILL HAVE EVENTS IN THIS SPACE FOR UP TO FOUR TO 500 PEOPLE.
UM, THE PARKING LOT ONLY HAS 158 PARKING SPOTS.
AND SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, EVEN BEFORE HE MENTIONED THE NUMBERS ATTENDING, UH, WE WERE CONCERNED THE PARKING LOT IS QUITE SMALL FOR THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND WE'RE VERY CONCERNED THAT, OH, UM, TRAFFIC, UM, PARKING WOULD OVERFLOW TO THE NEARBY STREETS OF, UM, WELL, THEY'RE GONE.
UH, HUIZAR, WOODHALL, UH, NAPIER, WELL NOT ON NAPIER, UH, BONNER AND ADELPHIA.
SO THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN OF NEIGHBORS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND OR EVEN TO PARK ACROSS THE HALL, UH, ACROSS THE STREET AT, UH, CARVER HALL PHARMACY PARKING LOT AT NIGHT, UM, OR ON WEEKENDS.
UM, OKAY, SO NO BINGO NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T WANT BINGO.
HE ALSO, HE WANTS EVENTS INSIDE.
WE KNOW WHAT AN EVENT CENTER IS.
WE ALREADY HAVE ONE AT THE PICK, PICK PLAZA RIGHT ACROSS ROOSEVELT AND DOWN A COUPLE OF BLOCKS.
EVENTS ALL THE TIME, NO PROBLEMS. ALL THE MUSIC STAYS INDOORS.
HE WANTS TO HAVE, UM, OUTDOOR MUSIC ON THE ROOFTOP.
UH, AND HE TOLD US THAT PAST MEETINGS THOUGH, HE SAYS HE DOES NOT REMEMBER IT OR HE DID NOT SAY IT, THAT HE WANTED ALSO THREE MUSIC ON THREE PATIOS AT THE PLACE.
HE SAID THERE WERE NO PATIOS YET IN THIS.
CAN WE SHOW THE, I THINK IT WAS WITH THE SECOND PICTURE IN THE PRESENTATION ANYWAY, IT SHOWS A BINGO ON IT FRONT ON, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
AND THAT ACT ACTUALLY IS WHERE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE LIVING.
UM, HE HAS GOTTEN RID OF THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE THIS MEETING, UH, OF THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT, ENCAMPMENT AT THE BACK LEFT OF, UH, HIS, UM, PROPERTY.
UM, THE OUTDOOR MUSIC HE WANTS TO HAVE ON THE ROOFTOP PATIOS, AT LEAST ONE PATIO THAT WE SEE IN THE, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GET IT.
WOULD YOU GET MS A'S PRESENTATION? OKAY, MS. HENRY, GO AHEAD.
UM, PRESENTATION UP THE SECOND SLIDE.
IN ADDITION, HE WANTS EVENTS IN THE PARKING LOT, UH, FARMERS OCCASION, OCCASIONALLY FARMER'S MARKETS WITH FOOD TRUCKS AND, UM, AND MUSIC, LIVE MUSIC THAT WILL BE VERY DISTURBING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE ALREADY HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET AT THE MISSION MARQUEE PLAZA RIGHT
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BEHIND JUST TO THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MISSION SAN JOSE.THEY, THEY HAVE MARKETS EVERY FIRST AND THIRD SATURDAY OF, OF THE MONTH, AND OFTEN SOMETIMES THE HARLANDALE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT SENDS OVER A MARIACHI BAND TO PLAY OR SOMETHING.
AND BY THE WAY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS HARLANDALE, ISD, NOT S-A-I-S-D.
UM, THE, UM, IDZ ZONING IS, UH, IT DOESN'T FIT IN HERE.
IT'S TOO HEAVY, IT'S TOO INTENSIVE, IT'S TOO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL.
UM, OUR NEIGHBORS AND I HAVE BEEN TO MANY OF THE SA TOMORROW SOUTH, UH, SOUTH COMMUNITY PLAN MEETINGS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
AND THIS, THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE, UH, REGIONAL SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH YOU HAVE ALREADY ON ROOSEVELT, UH, SOUTHEAST MILITARY DRIVE.
UM, THE, THIS IS IN THE MISSION HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, AND ADHERES TO THE MISSION HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN MANUAL, WHOSE GOAL NUMBER FOUR IS TO, UM, MAKE NEIGHBORHOODS MORE, UM, MORE LANDSCAPING, MORE WALKABLE.
UM, BUT HIS IDZ DOES NOT JIVE WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT WILL REQUIRE HIM ONLY TO PUT A FEW SUC SUCCULENTS IN A ROW IN FRONT OF HIS BUILDING.
THE REST CAN BE CONCRETE ASPHALT.
UM, AS FOR THE, THE, THE POLL, THE SURVEYS, THE FORMS THAT HE GOT FROM THE NEIGHBORS, HE DID NOT INCLUDE THE WORD LIVE MUSIC, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
UH, AND HE DID NOT MENTION ANY KIND OF OUTDOOR MUSIC TO THOSE PEOPLE.
ALL HE DID WAS MENTION THESE, UM, THESE SEVEN THINGS THAT HE WOULD DO THAT HIS PROPERTY WOULD DEVELOP.
AND ONLY ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH WHAT HE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO DO.
AN EVENT CENTER, FARMER'S MARKET AND FOOD TRUCKS.
ALL THE REST ARE ABOUT, HE'S GOING TO STOP.
UM, UH, HE'S GONNA KEEP THE PROPERTY NICE AND CLEAN.
HE'LL END THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, CRI CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
WE WELCOME HIS, HIS BUSINESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UH, C TWO S SPECIFIC USE EVENT CENTER NR NOISE REDUCTION, NOISE RESTRICTION.
THANK YOU MS. HENRY PETER GARCIA.
MR. GARCIA, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, UH, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
UM, THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING ME HERE.
I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR 33 71 ROOSEVELT AVENUE, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SHORT SLIDESHOW.
MR. GARCIA, YOUR TIME'S GOING, SO, OKAY.
UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE, UH, IDENTIFIED THIS LOCATION AS A, A, A BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REVITALIZE THE AREA.
WE HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST.
WE HAVE SHOPPING CENTERS OFF OF CALLAHAN ROAD.
BENDERA ROAD, WHAT COULD BE INTIMIDATING TO A LOT OF DEVELOPERS OR BUSINESS OWNERS.
WE KNOW, WE, WE KNOW HOW TO CLEAN UP A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, A ONCE BEAUTIFUL BUILDING THAT WILL BE BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THE SLIDES, I LIKE TO MAKE A FEW CLARIFICATIONS.
UH, IF WE HAVE BINGO HERE, IT WOULD BE DAYTIME BINGO, NOT BINGO FROM 12:00 AM UNTIL THREE OR FOUR IN THE MORNING.
DAYTIME BINGO CREATES SYNERGY.
YOU WANT A CERTAIN LEVEL, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH YOUR SHOPPING CENTER.
OTHERWISE YOU CAN BRING CRIME STARTS TO, STARTS TO, YOU KNOW, SHOW UP AND YOU DON'T, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.
UH, NEXT THING IS THERE'D BE THREE EVENT CENTERS AND ONE ROOFTOP TERRACE.
EACH EVENT CENTER WOULD OCCU, UH, WOULD BE ABLE TO OCCUPY 150 TO 200 PEOPLE.
WE AVERAGE ABOUT 50 CARS PER EVENT CENTER FOR THAT SIZE.
SO WE HAVE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING WE NEED, UM, THE ROOFTOP.
AND IF I DID SAY THAT IN THE PAST, I APOLOGIZE, BUT YOU'LL, YOU CAN SEE BY THE ELEVATION, THERE ARE NO PATIOS.
AND THAT WOULD BE AN EXTENSION OF THAT PARTICULAR EVENT CENTER WHERE YOU COULD HAVE CEREMONIES, WEDDINGS, UM, MAYBE, UH, AN INTER UH, A SPEECH WOULD BE GIVEN.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE THE PARTY IS.
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A BEAUTIFUL, YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW, A BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOUR CEREMONY.WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR ELEVATIONS TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND THEY HAD NO CONCERNS WITH THE DESIGN.
LASTLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE FEEL CONFIDENT WE CAN REVITALIZE THE AREA.
SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP.
I REPRESENT THE HOT WELLS MISSION REACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE SUPPORT MISSION SAN JOSE.
IN OPPOSING THIS PROJECT ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, THEY HAD A LARGE AREA REZONING ALONG ROOSEVELT, WHERE THE CITY PARTICIPATED ALSO WITH THE, UH, WORLD HERITAGE DEPARTMENT ZONING THINGS APPROPRIATELY FOR THE EXPECTED, UM, INFLUX OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS BY, IF IT IS GIVEN IDZ, WE'LL BASICALLY SET A PRECEDENT AND THROW ALL THAT AWAY.
IT WAS THOUGHT THAT WE'D HAVE SOME APPROPRIATE INFILL THAT ENHANCES, INTEGRATES AND IS A CATALYST FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS NOT A BINGO HALL IS EXPLOITATION OF A POOR MARGINALIZED AREA WITH AVERAGE PER CAPITA INCOME OF $22,500 A YEAR.
IT WILL NOT SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO MOVE IN NEXT DOOR.
UM, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CLAIMED, LIKE THE HOMELESS, THAT'S A CITY ISSUE OF NON-ENFORCEMENT.
THIS WILL NOT STOP HOMELESSNESS.
THIS WILL NOT STOP CRIME IN ANY WAY.
IT WILL UM, JUST BE WHAT IS ALREADY THERE.
A LOT OF EVENT CENTERS, UH, WE'RE BLESSED WITH A, UH, CBD DISPENSARY DOWN THE STREET AND OTHER THINGS I COULD MENTION THAT HAVE BEEN GOING IN.
UH, THIS WILL BE IN LINE WITH WHAT IS ALREADY OCCURRING AND WILL NOT, UH, CHANGE THAT TRAJECTORY, UH, FOR INVESTMENT IN THE AREA.
THE UM, BUILDING IS HISTORICALLY INSIGNIFICANT.
THE HISTORY IS THE GROUND, NOT THE STRUCTURE IN THIS AREA.
AND NOW AT THIS PROJECT, WE HOPE THAT WE COULD GET SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN THIS AREA THAT WOULD BRING IN OTHER TYPES OF POSITIVE DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, THIS IS NOT GOING TO ENHANCE AREA ANYWAY.
IT WILL ENHANCE THE LIQUOR STORE DOWN THE STREET.
PEOPLE CAN GO GET SOME LIQUOR THERE.
THIS, THAT WAS ALSO NOT MENTIONED HERE ABOUT ALCOHOL SALES ON SITE.
THE SITE ITSELF, UM, CHAIN LINK FENCE LOOKS LIKE A, UH, DETENTION CENTER.
NOTHING WAS MENTIONED ABOUT THAT.
PUTTING A COUPLE CACTUS IN FRONT, THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD OR CHANGE THIS AREA IN ANY WAY.
UH, THE PAVEMENT, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PROJECTS IN THE AREA HAVE LIGHTER COLORED PAVEMENT THAT DOES NOT INCREASE THE HEAT ISLAND AREA AND HOPE THAT THIS COMMITTEE WILL RECOGNIZE THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS AREA AND ONLY ALLOW APPROPRIATE INFILL THAT FURTHER ENHANCES IT, NOT FURTHER MARGINALIZES THIS POOR AREA.
IT IS A VERY HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AND IT'S REALLY SAD TO SEE THE VISION OF THE CITY DESTROYING IT IN THIS AREA.
UH, THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN SAN DIEGO WHERE THEY HAVE AN EXTENSIVE ASE NETWORK OR ANY OF THE MISSIONS I'VE VISITED IN CALIFORNIA.
IT'S A REALLY A SHAME THAT THIS CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE VISION TO DO THINGS RIGHT.
AND MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, ESPECIALLY YOUR LAST NAME 'CAUSE I DID NOT PICK IT UP.
I LIVE DOWN THE STREET AND DOWN WHEN THEY HAVE, UH, MUSIC AT THE MISSION SAN JOSE FOR THEIR EVENTS.
I CAN HEAR IT ALL THE WAY FROM MY HOUSE.
SO IF THEY HAVE LIVE MUSIC THERE, I'M GONNA BE HEARING THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE HOUSE AS WELL.
UH, THEY ONLY HAVE IT OCCASIONALLY, SO I'LL TOLERATE THAT.
BUT IF, BUT THIS BINGO CENTER, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER BINGO CENTER.
SO, UM, AND ALSO THE HOMELESS, WE DEAL WITH THAT ALL THE TIME AS WELL IN THAT AREA.
BUT THE MUSIC, UH, I DON'T EVEN TOLERATE IT FROM MY NEIGHBORS.
UH, THEY USED TO PLAY IT LOUD, UH, TWO HOUSES DOWN.
I'D GO OVER THERE, COMPLAIN TO THEM, TELL 'EM YOU KEEP IT UP.
I'M GONNA CALL THE POLICE ON YOU.
WELL, THE ONES NEXT DOOR DID THE SAME THING TOO.
I FINALLY HAD TO CALL THE COPS ON THEM.
UH, OTHER NEIGHBORS CALLED THE COPS ON THEM AS WELL BECAUSE OF LOUD MUSIC.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE TOLERATING THE, THE LOUD MUSIC.
AND I'M WAY, WAY DOWN THERE, UH, FROM WHERE THIS BINGO THING IS.
I'M ALMOST, UH, IT'S A FLORIST AND LOUD
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MUSIC.IT, IT GETS IRRITATING, ESPECIALLY LATE AT NIGHT TWO AND THREE IN THE MORNING.
ALRIGHT, THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, MR. RAMOS, IF YOU'D LIKE A BRIEF REBUTTAL, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO JUST TOUCH ON? WE'LL, WE'LL GET THE QUESTIONS NEXT.
IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY ITEMS. OKAY.
UM, WE HAVE ACTUALLY ENJOYED MEETING WITH MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DURING THE LAST TWO YEARS.
UM, AS, UM, JANE HENRY HAD MENTIONED THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS IDZ THREE WITH USES IN C3.
UH, WE ALSO HAD A BUILDABLE AREA ON THE SITE PLAN ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF ROOSEVELT AVENUE IN CASE IN THE FUTURE IT NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED.
UM, AND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE COULD BE DEMOLISHED.
AND THERE, YOU KNOW, UM, BASED ON THEIR INPUT AND THEIR CONCERNS, UH, MY CLIENT HAD AGREED TO LOWER THE REQUESTED ZONING FROM IDZ THREE TO IDZ TWO AND ALSO REMOVE THAT BUILDABLE AREA ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF ROOSEVELT AVENUE, WHICH RESTRICTS ANY NEW STRUCTURES FROM BEING BUILT SINCE IT'S NOT ON THE SITE PLAN.
SO WE ARE HOPING THAT THOSE, UH, DIFFERENT CONCESSIONS THAT WERE MADE WILL HELP RESOLVE THEIR CONCERN IN REGARDS TO PARKING.
UM, THE, UH, NUMBER OF SPACES THAT ARE PROPOSED ACTUALLY EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, UM, BY THE UDC.
UM, AND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THERE BEING ANY NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING MORE THAN 160 SPACES.
THAT'S QUITE A, QUITE A LOT OF SPACES.
UM, AS FAR AS THE BINGO HALL, UH, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON ACTUALLY LEASING IT OUT PERMANENTLY TO A BINGO HALL, UH, OPERATOR OR, YOU KNOW, RUN A 24 7 BINGO HALL.
IT'S VERY HIGH CLASS AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE, UM, SURROUNDING AREA.
ESPECIALLY IT COMPLIMENTS THE MISSION SAN JOSE.
MANY PEOPLE HAVE PHOTOS TAKEN THERE AND SO FORTH.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THE EVENT CENTER WILL ACTUALLY COMPLIMENT IT AND ACTUALLY RAISE AWARENESS OF THE MISSION.
THE ROOSEVELT ARTS AND EVENT CENTER WILL ALSO HAVE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, ARTWORK AND EDUCATIONAL, UH, MATERIALS PER, UH, PROVIDED AT THE EVENT CENTER TO HELP RAISE AWARENESS AND EDUCATION ON THE MISSION SAN JOSE.
AND, UM, AS FAR AS THE MUSIC, UH, THE MOST EVENTS, UH, LAST UNTIL ABOUT MIDNIGHT.
UM, THEY, THEIR HOURS ARE UNTIL 2:00 AM STAFF USUALLY STAYS TILL 2:00 AM TO CLEAN UP.
BUT, UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW, UH, LOUD MUSIC TO UM, EVER OCCUR EVEN DURING THE DAY IN THAT PREMISES.
UH, THE CLIENT WILL COMPLY WITH THE NOR NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND, UM, THE GOAL IS TO, UH, HAVE EVENTS THERE THAT EVEN THE PUBLIC CAN ENJOY, UH, AT NO COST, SUCH AS THE CHARITABLE EVENTS THAT THEY'LL BE HOLDING AS WELL AS THE FARMER'S MARKET.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THE BINGO HALL USE ADDED ON THERE IS BECAUSE THEY WILL BE LEASING OUT A SPACE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT BINGO HALLS WILL THROW THERE, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A 24 HOUR MAIN BUSINESS.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
MS. RAWS, YOU, YOU MAY WANNA YES, SIR.
UM, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, WITH THE CURRENT STATE LEGISLATION PASSED WITH THE C TWO PROPERTY, COULD ANOTHER DEVELOPER OR SOMEBODY COME IN AND BUILD MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AT THE CURRENT ZONING? UM, CORRECT.
WITH THE HOUSE BILL, UH, EIGHT 40, IT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT NOW TO DO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY THAT IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, AND THEN ALSO OUR OWN CITY COUNCIL HAD APPROVED AN UPDATE TO OUR UDC AMENDMENT TO ALIGN WITH THE STATE CODE.
UM, SO IT IS PERMITTED UP TO A DENSITY OF MF 65.
NOW IT DOES NEED TO COMPLY WITH CERTAIN REGULATIONS, DISTANCE STANDARDS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE ARE ANY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES OR ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN I BELIEVE A THOUSAND FEET, IT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED, BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY.
THANK YOU MS. HENRY, YOU WANNA COME DOWN HERE REAL QUICK? SO, MS. HENRY, THE QUESTION I'M GONNA ASK YOU, UM, WHILE YOU'RE WALKING UP TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, IS, WOULD THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WOULD THEY BE OPPOSED TO THAT, A MULTI-FAMILY BEING BUILT IN THIS, UH, AREA? UM, WE HAVE OPPOSED ONE BUILT, UM, ON THE CORNER OF, UH, BON AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S A YES.
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YOU.WANNA IN THE FIRST ROW? 'CAUSE I'M GONNA BRING, BRING YOU UP ALSO AGAIN, FIRST ROW.
JUST, JUST SAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF WALKING TIME.
UH, STAFF CURRENTLY THE C TWO ZONING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THERE, UM, SOMEBODY COULD COME IN AND OPEN, AS I READ FROM MY LITTLE LIST HERE, THEY, THEY CAN OPEN A LIQUOR STORE WITH, WITH NO TROUBLE, WITH NO ZONING CHANGE.
I AM JUST CONFIRMING REAL QUICK, I I I HAVE DOWN, YOU KNOW, LIQUOR STORE, PET CEMETERY, AN AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK.
A LIQUOR STORE WOULD BE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT AND A C TWO.
UM, THE AUTO, AUTO SHOP, NOT THE FULL BLOWN AUTO SHOP, BUT LIKE TIRE REPAIR OR MUFFLER REPAIR OR OIL LUBE, LIKE YOU WERE MENTIONING, ARE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT AND A C TWO.
AND AGAIN, WE, WE WOULDN'T BE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY BUY IT AND IT'S, IT'S UP THE NEXT DAY OR WHENEVER THEY FINISH CONSTRUCTION.
MS. HENRY, A QUESTION FOR YOU REAL QUICK.
WOULD THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BE OPPOSED TO ANY OF THOSE? UM, I THINK SO.
AND, UM, MR. GARCIA HAD ASKED US TO MAKE A LIST OF THE THINGS.
THANK, THANK, THANK YOU, MR. I JUST WANNA SAVE SOME TIME HERE.
UH, STAFF THE ZONING REQUESTS.
DOES, DOES, DO THESE ITEMS GET, DOES THE ZONING GET PERMITTED BY, BY THE ZONING REQUEST? UH, A BINGO HALL, THEIR REQUEST YES, IS, UM, FOR C TWO USES, ALONG WITH OTHER ITEMS, WHICH INCLUDE A BINGO PAR, A BINGO PARLOR.
NOW I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THAT.
WHAT ABOUT EIGHT LINERS? ISN'T THAT ILLEGAL? EIGHT LINERS? YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING OF AN ILLEGAL NATURE.
UM, SO I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN AUDREY, BUT OFFICIALLY, UH, PERMITTED, UH, LEGALIZATION, I MEAN, NO EIGHT LINERS IN THAT LOCATION.
WHAT ABOUT, YEAH, WHAT ABOUT OUTDOOR MUSIC? LIVE OR PIPED IN? UH, YEAH, SO OUTDOOR MUSIC, IT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS. LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WITHOUT COVER CHARGE, UH, INCLU.
NOW I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THIS, THAT ONE AS WELL.
UM, PAWN SHOPS, CASH LOAN SHOPS, ATMS, ARE THOSE, WOULD THAT BE PERMITTED, PERMITTED WITH THIS REZONING REQUEST? SO A PAWN SHOP IS NOT PERMITTED IN C TWO.
IT'S ONLY PERMITTED IN C3, AND I BELIEVE THE BANK LOAN ALSO NEEDS A SPECIFIC, UM, OKAY.
AND, AND WHAT, I'M KINDA GOING JUST A COUPLE MORE HERE, UH, ON THE LIST THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, AND WE, THERE'S LIQUOR STORE, BUT YES.
AND WE CAN COME IN THERE AND DO A LIQUOR STORE, UM, BARS.
NO, THAT, YEAH, THAT WILL NEED A, UM, C3.
BUT THIS WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE USE IN THIS ZONING REQUEST FOR A BAR.
CORRECT? IT IS NOT ADDED TO THIS ITEM, SO NO, IT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED.
AND THEN, UM, AUTO PART REPAIR SHOP, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
UH, LIMITED ASPHALT, MAXIMAL LANDSCAPING.
SO GET THAT MS. HENRY, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, UH, ON, ON THE VOTE THAT, UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW I ASKED YOU A COUPLE DAYS PRIOR WHAT THE STANCE WAS FOR, 'CAUSE I SENT YOU OVER THE PDF THAT MS. RAMOS TO SEND ME OVER.
DID THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TAKE A VOTE? UH, HOW DID THAT VOTE LOOK LIKE? WAS IT UNANIMOUS? HOW, HOW DID THAT GO? UH, A VOTE.
ON WHAT? ON YOUR, I HAVE HERE A LETTER OF, UH, NON-SUPPORT FOR THIS, UH, ZONING REQUEST.
DID WE HAVE A VOTE AT OUR LAST MEETING? YES.
HOW, HOW, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE WERE STILL ALL HOTLY DISCUSSING EVERYTHING WHEN THE, WHEN WE HAD TO LEAVE TRYING, THE LIBRARY WAS CLOSING.
I'M JUST TRYING FIGURE, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE THIS LETTER, WHICH IS DATED YESTERDAY, OCTOBER 20TH, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, UH, OPPOSED FOR THE ZONING? YES.
HOW DID THAT TAKE PLACE? WAS THAT, AM I READING THIS WRONG? WAS IT JUST YOU WHO WAS OPPOSING IT OR WAS THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? NO, THIS IS BASED ON, UH, THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
UH, AND I'VE GOT NOTES ON EVERY MEETING HERE, AND THAT'S FINE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO ALL THESE NOTES.
NEIGHBORS WERE OPPOSED TO BINGO AND TO WASN'T TO THE OUTDOOR MUSIC.
SO THIS, SO THIS WASN'T A SPECIFICS, OKAY, LET'S TAKE A VOTE IF, DO WE WANT THIS BUSINESS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? RAISE YOUR HAND.
NO, NOT AT OUR LAST MEETING, NO.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ABOUT THE, UH, BAR IN C TWO.
I BELIEVE THAT SAMANTHA AT ZONING COMMISSION TOLD ME THAT A BAR IS ALLOWED IF, UH, AT LEAST 50% OF THE, UM, OF THE INCOME IS FROM FOOD.
LET, LET'S GET YOU THAT, THAT, THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.
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STAFF, CAN YOU LOOK INTO THAT REAL QUICK? SO, WELL, A BAR IS CONSIDERED, UH, A LOCATION THAT HAS ALCOHOL SALES OVER 70 OR EITHER 70 OR 75%.SO IF THEY ARE A BEV OR A RESTAURANT THAT SELLS ALCOHOL, WE DON'T CONSIDER THAT A BAR.
IT'S CONSIDERED A FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT.
AND STAFF, WHY HAVE YOU, UH, REAL QUICK, CAN WE RESTRICT HOURS WITH THIS, UH, ZONING REQUEST? NO, WE CANNOT, WE CANNOT RESTRICT HOURS.
UM, AND DOES IDZ ALLOW BYOB? UM, IT'S NOT REALLY A ZONING OR A USE ITEM.
THAT IS SOMETHING MORE OF A CODE ITEM AND, UM, IT IS THROUGH STATE CODE.
WHAT ABOUT A RESTRICTION OF MUSIC? I THINK WE KIND OF WENT OVER THAT ALREADY, BUT BASICALLY THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED THE NOISE, OR I'M SORRY, NOT THE MUSIC, BUT AGAIN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR NOISE LEVELS, CODE ENFORCEMENT NUISANCE ISSUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE COVERED WITH CODE.
ONE WILL BE, CAN THEY HAVE A SOLID SCREEN FENCE WITH IDZ? CORRECT.
AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE MAX OCCUPANCY OF, OF THIS ZONING? I'LL LET YOU, I, I'LL LET YOU LOOK INTO THAT.
I CAN, I CAN HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT.
SO THE OCCUPANCY IS GONNA BE DETERMINED AT THE TIME OF PLAN REVIEW BASED ON THE SUBMITTED, UH, FLOOR PLANS, DETERMINING WHAT STORAGE WAS ACTUAL CUSTOMER USE SPACE.
AND THAT'S HOW WE WILL FIGURE THAT OUT DURING TECHNICAL REVIEW.
WAS THAT, WAS THAT SUBMITTED? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT, ON THE SCREEN? THAT'S A SITE PLAN.
THE SITE, THE FLOOR PLAN WOULD BE THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE.
AND SO MS. RAMOS, UH, THAT BEING SAID, WOULD YOU GUYS BE, UH, WILLING TO WORK A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO KIND OF RECTIFY AND CLEAR UP SOME OF THIS, UH, SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE? OH, DEFINITELY.
I MEAN, EVEN AT, IF THE, UH, ZONING CASE IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, WE CAN WE, UM, PLAN ON CONTINUING CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH MSS J AND A AND JANE HENRY HERSELF TO ADDRESS, UH, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFICATION THE CRIME, HOMELESSNESS, UM, SECURITY, UH, ANY SORT OF CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE.
AND, AND FOR THIS CASE, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME CASES THAT ARE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US, UM, FOR THIS CASE.
I'M JUST VERY CONFUSED AND I THINK WE, WE, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MY BIGGEST FEAR IS TWO OR THREE PEOPLE SAY, HEY, WE DON'T WANT THIS, BUT IS IT REALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD? BECAUSE WHEN I WALK THAT AREA, I TALK TO THE SURROUNDING AREA BUSINESSES, THE, THE MOST OF THE RESIDENTS, EVEN SOME OF THE HOMELESS, EVEN, THEY DON'T, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE.
AND AN EVENT CENTER SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, COULD FIT THAT, THAT BILL AS WE KIND OF WENT OFF, YOU KNOW, AN ALCOHOL STORE COULD JUST, I COULD BUY IT TOMORROW AND BUILD A GIGANTIC ALCOHOL STORE AND IT'D BE BUY, RIGHT? I COULD HAVE THAT.
SO WHAT I DON'T WANNA SEE PERSONALLY, I THINK AN ABANDONED, UH, BIG STRUCTURE LIKE THIS, IT'S AN EYESORE AND IT'S, IT'S DANGEROUS.
SO WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING.
NOT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE RUSHING, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE.
HOWEVER, THIS IS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS IS THE MISSIONS.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S A HISTORICAL, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING.
SO THAT BEING SAID, LET, LET ME, LET ME GATHER MY THOUGHTS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP CHAIR FOR OTHER QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
THANK COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MR. GARCIA.
UH, ARE YOU EMPLOYED BY THIS FACILITY? UH, CORRECT.
I'M, COME ON, COME ON OFFICER, IF YOU WOULD.
I AM GOING TO THE QUESTION ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, HOW LATE ARE YOU GONNA HAVE THESE WEDDINGS? QUINCEANERAS? MIDNIGHT.
THEY, THEY END AT MIDNIGHT, AND TYPICALLY THEY OCCUR ON A WEEKEND.
SO PRETTY MUCH, UH, WHAT TIME WOULD THE MUSIC BE CUT OFF? ABOUT? UH, 1155, MIDNIGHT.
BUT WE, WE LITERALLY STOPPED THE MUSIC AT MIDNIGHT.
OTHERWISE, UM, IT, IT, IT DOESN'T GIVE, IT DOESN'T SEND THE MESSAGE IF THE PARTY'S OVER
GOING TO THE, UH, QUESTION THAT, UH, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, MA'AM? MY NAME JANE HENRY.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HAVING ANYTHING, ANY TYPE OF, UH, EXCUSE ME, SIR.
MR. GARCIA, IF YOU WOULD OH, GO AHEAD AND STEP BACK.
MS. HENRY? NO, THIS IS FOR MR. GARCIA.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HAVING ANY TYPE OF, UH, PARTY'S GOING ON TILL THREE, NO, SIR.
WE DON'T WANT, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.
WE HAVE A FAMILY FRIENDLY ATMOSPHERE.
UM, WE HAVE TWO LARGE CENTERS WHERE WE HAVE MULTIPLE VENUES AND THEY ARE, THEY'RE FAMILY FRIENDLY.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING POSITIVE CELEBRATIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY,
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ALL AGES.ON THE ROOFTOP, IS THERE GONNA BE ANY TYPE OF, UH, MUSIC OUTSIDE? WE'D PROBABLY HAVE SPEAKERS OUT THERE.
WE'RE IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGE, BUT MORE THAN LIKELY, THINKING OUT LOUD, PROBABLY A FEW SPEAKERS FOR BACKGROUND MUSIC, UH, WE WOULDN'T SET UP A BAND UNLESS YOU CONSIDER MARIACHIS FOR A BAND AS A BAND, BUT THE MARIACHIS WOULD COME AND THEY WOULD PLAY, BUT THEY DON'T PLAY ALL NIGHT LONG.
THEY PLAY FOR 30 MINUTES OR SO APPROXIMATELY.
UH, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A CEREMONY OUTSIDE ON THE ROOFTOP TERRACE.
IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THAT PARTICULAR VENUE.
SO THAT'S NOT WHERE PEOPLE WOULD BE CONGREGATING ALL NIGHT LONG.
MY CONCERN IS, UH, LOUD MUSIC BEING FROM THE PATIO, GOING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BOTHERING VALID CONCERN.
WE'D BE, I'M GONNA DO, I, I'VE TOLD THIS TO MS. HENRY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT I'M TOLD TO DO, I WILL DO WHAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE RIGHT AND WRONG.
WE DO THAT AT OUR SPECI AT OUR VENUES RIGHT NOW.
SO IF WE FEEL IT'S TOO LOUD, EVEN IF WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE, WE'RE GONNA TURN IT DOWN.
WE, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISTURB ANYBODY.
WE WANT TO DO, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY, DO JUST DO WHAT'S RIGHT IN LIFE.
MR. J HENRY, CAN YOU STEP UP, PLEASE? YES, SIR.
GOING OFF, WHAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED THAT THE MUSIC'S GONNA BE TURNED OFF AT 1155, WOULD YOU STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? YES, BECAUSE THE NOISE ORDINANCE, UH, REQUIRES THEM TO STOP OUTDOOR MUSIC AT 11:00 PM ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS 10:00 PM UM, ON OTHER DAYS.
UM, AND FURTHERMORE, I DON'T, HE, HE'S, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES AT HIS OTHER EVENT SPACES.
HE HAS NO OTHER EVENT SPACES WITH OUTDOOR EXPOSURE, IF I'M MISTAKEN.
I THINK THE LAW ALLOWS PEOPLE TO HAVE MUSIC TILL MIDNIGHT ON THE WEEKENDS AND A LITTLE EARLIER DURING THE WEEK.
UM, I'VE GOT IT ON MY CELL PHONE.
THAT NOISE ORDINANCE, THAT THAT STAFF IF, AM I CORRECT ON THAT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CITY ORDINANCE IS ON THAT? WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK INTO THIS RIGHT NOW.
I'VE GOT THE DECIBEL LEVELS AND EVERYTHING.
UH, IT'S, YOU CAN EASILY FIND IT.
UM, UH, THE REASON I MENTION THAT IS BECAUSE I'M ALSO A VICE PRESIDENT FOR AN AN HOA AND WE GO THROUGH THIS ALSO.
THEY'RE, UH, UH, HOMEOWNERS ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE MUSIC TILL MIDNIGHT ON FRIDAY NIGHTS AND SATURDAYS.
AND IF IT'S SOMETHING DURING THE WEEK, IT GETS CUT OFF ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK, I BELIEVE.
SO THAT'S, BUT THE NOISE ORDINANCE DOES SAY ARE, ARE YOU LOOKING IT UP THAT THE QUIET HOURS ARE BETWEEN 11:00 PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAYS TO 6:00 AM IN THE MOR THE NEXT MORNING AND THE REST OF THE WEEK? IT'S, UH, FROM, UM, THE QUIET HOURS ARE FROM 10:00 PM OVERNIGHT UNTIL SIX IN THE MORNING.
THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH YOU.
WILL YOU BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM TO, IF IT GETS APPROVED? UH, I'D, I'D LIKE TO, BUT WE, YEAH, WE'D CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
WE THINK THAT THE SEA, I'M SORRY.
I WOULD LOVE, THIS IS A VACANT BUILDING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN DESPAIR AND IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING IF SOMEBODY CAME IN AND REMODEL IT, MAKE IT LOOK NICE.
IT WOULD IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ADD VALUE TO THE AREA, UH, INSTEAD OF IT STAYING LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE I, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PEOPLE INTERESTED IN BUYING THIS PROPERTY? DO YOU KNOW? I AGREE.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS? NOT SO FAR.
UM, YEAH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF ABOUT THE BINGO ZONING SPECIFICALLY.
I KNOW THEY MENTIONED DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME ZONING FOR BINGO.
IS THERE A DIFFERENT ZONING FOR THAT? OR LIKE UNDER C TWO IS BINGO ALLOWED BY? RIGHT.
AND IF YOU COULD JUST GO INTO THE BINGO SITUATION, THAT'D BE GREAT.
SO BINGO PARLOR, WE DON'T HAVE A, I'M NOT AWARE OF A DAYTIME AND A NIGHTTIME USE OR, UM, BUT IT IS, IT NEEDS A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION IN A C TWO, BUT IT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN A C3.
SO, AND IT'S CURRENTLY C TWO SO THAT THEY WOULD NEED A SPECIFIC CORRECT.
AND THEN I HAD A QUESTION FOR, UM, MS. J HENRY JUST BRIEFLY WAS WONDERING, AS AS PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOT'S EMPTY, OR NOT EMPTY, BUT NEEDS TO BE ACTIVATED A BIT, WHAT IS THE IDEAL USE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION POSITION? WHAT'S THE IDEAL USE FOR THE LOT? LIKE I GOAL IDEAL? I'M VERY SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR OUT OF MY LEFT EAR.
WHERE'S THE SPEAKER? I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT? I CAN DEFINITELY REPEAT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS OF THE, UM, WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION'S IDEAL USE WOULD BE FOR THAT BUILDING OR THAT LOT.
IF YOU GUYS HAD YOUR WAY, WHAT WOULD BE THE USE FOR IT? WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD WE WANT TO SEE THERE? UH, A FABULOUS RESTAURANT
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UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD APPEAL TO TOURISTS FROM THE MISSION AS WELL.
THAT'S ONE DRAWBACK OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT THE EVENT CENTER REALLY HAS NOTHING FOR THE TOURIST EXPERIENCE, AND ESPECIALLY IF THERE WERE MUSIC OUTSIDE ON WEEKENDS, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SPENT MONEY COME FROM COMING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO GO INTO THE MISSION AND THEY'RE HEARING THIS BLASTING MUSIC FROM A FARMER'S MARKET IN HIS PARKING LOT.
MISSION SAN JOSE IS A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL PLACE TO WALK, WALK AROUND WITHIN THE MISSION WALLS.
SO THAT IS A DRAWBACK AND THAT'S A REASON FOR, UH, EXCLUDING THE NOISE.
SO WE, AGAIN, WE FEEL THAT THE C TWO S SPECIFIC USE FOR EVENTS WITH NOISE RESTRICTION WOULD WORK FOR THEM AND FOR US.
DID YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PARTICIPATE IN THE LAR PROCESS THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER? I'M SORRY, THE LARGE AREA REZONING PROCESS.
DID THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PARTICIPATE IN IT FROM THE PREVIOUS YEARS? YES, IT WAS PART OF THE, UM, THE SOUTH AREA COMMUNITY PLAN MEETINGS SPONSORED BY, UH, SA TOMORROW.
COMMISSIONER LO UH, COMMISSIONER CHASE TO YOU? QUESTIONS? NONE.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA COME, WE'RE GONNA COME.
HOW ABOUT THAT? UH, FIRST I WANNA GIVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY HAVE THE, UH, THE NOSE ORDINANCE UP TO, UH, GIVE US A EXPLANATION OF HOW IT WORKS, WHAT AS IT WOULD BE APPLIED TO THIS PROPERTY.
AND IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE IT, THEN I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, I SADLY DON'T.
I'M TRYING TO CONTACT OUR, UM, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM JUST TO GET THE EXACT CODE SPECIFICALLY SO I CAN GIVE YOU THE CORRECT TIMES AND DATES.
WOULD THE NOISE ORDINANCE APPLY NO MATTER WHAT THE ZONING WAS IN THIS CASE? CORRECT.
AND JUST, I, YOU KNOW, I GOOGLED IT, UH, ON THE COMPUTER HERE.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT, UH, SECTION 2151.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE OPERATIVE CODE SECTION, BUT JUST AS A HINT, I'LL LET YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, WORK ON THAT.
UH, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT TO, TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NOISE CONCERNS.
UH, MY NEXT QUESTION IS ACTUALLY FOR THE PROJECT APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE.
SO IN, IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU HAD REPRESENTED THAT THERE HAD BEEN A LOT OF SUPPORT YES.
AMONG THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES? YES.
YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY THAT WASN'T REPRESENTED AMONG THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD HERE.
UH, WE HAD TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN, IN, IN OPPOSITION.
I'M NOT ACTUALLY AS FAMILIAR, UH, WITH THIS, WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I SEE THAT ON THE, UH, SITE PLAN, THE RAVEN HILL SUBDIVISION IS THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
DO YOU KNOW IF THAT HAS AN HOA OR WAS THAT IT WASN'T REPRESENTED HERE TODAY? DO YOU KNOW IF IT HAS AN HOA, UH, JANE REPRESENTS MISSION SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THAT REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY, UH, THE HOMES THAT ARE RIGHT BEHIND THE, UH, THE STRUCTURE.
UM, THE PERSON WHO LEFT THE VOICE MESSAGE, I LOOKED UP THE ADDRESS, IT APPEARS TO BE ACROSS THE STREET, UM, OVER, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT A THOUSAND, UH, FEET AWAY.
SO PREVIOUSLY YOU'D SHOWN A, UM, REPRESENTATION OF WHICH A ADJACENT PROPERTIES WERE IN SUPPORT OF THAT? YES.
I THINK THE COURT ON, UH, WHAT IS IT, DEL DELPHIA, SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTS WERE IN SUPPORT.
UM, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE ALL OF THE RESIDENTS ALONG DELPHIA WERE IN SUPPORT.
UM, DID YOU GET, WERE YOU ABLE TO REACH THOSE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS? DID YOU YEAH, ONE OF THE, UH, LOTS IS, UH, THE HOUSE IS, WAS DEMOLISHED.
THEY CAN'T FIND THE OWNER, SO THAT HOUSE DOESN'T EVEN EXIST ON THE LOT.
AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS ARE ACTUALLY ON THAT FOUNDATION IN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE OTHER HOME THERE, WE COULDN'T GET AHOLD OF THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE RESIDENT, BUT THE REMAINING, UH, RESIDENTS WITHIN 200 FEET WERE IN SUPPORT.
WE HAD NOT MET WITH ANYONE WHO WAS OPPOSED, THAT LIVED RIGHT BEHIND THE STRUCTURE.
UM, JUST ONE NOTE ALSO, UH, MY CLIENT WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE MUSIC ON THE ROOFTOP IS NOT GONNA LAST TILL MIDNIGHT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL PROBABLY END AT 10 OR 10 30 IN THE EVENING AT THE LATEST.
VE ANYTHING FURTHER OTHER THAN THE NOISE ORDINANCE? NO.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? I'M GONNA END WITH
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YOU COMMISSIONER S SIPES.SO COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S IT, I GUESS, I MEAN, I'M, I'M GONNA GO AFTER YOU, BUT FOR THIS SIDE,
SO, BUT I'M READING HERE, IT SAYS WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PARTY, HOUSE RECEPTION, HALL MEETING FACILITY BINGO, PARLOR LIVE.
SO THE WAY IT READS HERE IS THAT THEY'RE PERMITTED IN C TWO.
NO, IT'S SAYING FOR ANY USES WITHIN C TWO AND ADDING THOSE OTHER ITEMS WHICH ARE NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
THOSE ARE PERMITTED IN C TWO PERMITTED BY RIGHT, CORRECT.
UM, QUESTION FOUR, PROBABLY MR. GARCIA OR MS. RAMOS ON THE ROOFTOP, UH, MUSIC.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL ARE, MAKES OR BREAKS THIS DEAL BY HAVING THIS, UH, ROOFTOP VENUE AND THE MUSIC OUT THERE? UH, THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE OR BREAK IT, BUT I, IN MY OPINION, IT'S, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A, I MEAN, IMAGINE HAVING YOUR CEREMONY UP THERE.
IMAGINE HAVING A, A CELL, YOUR, YOUR PRE CELEBRATION BEFORE YOU WALK INTO THE EVENT CENTER, YOU'RE ELEVATED, YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE THE STREET AND SEE THE SURROUNDING STRUCTURES.
I MEAN, GRANTED A LOT OF THE STRUCTURES NEED SOME TLC, BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS REVITALIZATION ENCOURAGES OTHERS TO COME TO START DEVELOPING.
SO THEN A QUESTION RELATING TO THAT, STAY THERE, IT MIGHT BE FOR STAFF, IF THEY DO A ROOFTOP STRUCTURE WITH PEOPLE, ARE THEY GONNA BE REQUIRED UNDER HANDICAP, UH, ORDINANCE TO HAVE ELEVATOR UP THERE AND Y'ALL PLANNING TO PUT AN ELEVATOR IN? YES, SIR.
AND, AND A, UH, AM I SAYING THIS CORRECTLY, A STAIRCASE AS WELL? YES.
THAT'S NOT GONNA BE AN EYESORE.
NOW YOU'RE PART OF THE GROUP THAT OWNS THE BUILDING.
HOW LONG HAVE Y'ALL OWNED IT? TWO YEARS.
JUST LOOKING BACK AT THIS, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN VACANT FOR 15, 20 YEARS.
UH, IS THAT CORRECT? MORE? YEAH.
HOW LONG IT TAKEN? OH NO, I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I LOOKED AT THE, UH, GOOGLE THING BACK IN 2007.
I KNOW IT USED TO BE A BOWLING ALLEY, I'M SURE.
SO I'M SURE PINS WERE BANGING AROUND AT ONE POINT.
I THINK THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS WITH STAFF AND WITH YOU AT THE MOMENT.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY IN THIS.
IT WASN'T REALLY DRAFTED EASILY.
THEY HAVE IN THE CODE CALLING OUT NIGHTTIME AND DAYTIME.
WE'RE, I'M LOOKING AT DEFINITIONS IN THE CODE.
UM, ACTUALLY THIS IS QUIET HOURS FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL, SO I CAN'T SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE QUIET HOURS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO THAT'S WHY GOOGLE SEARCH HAS BEEN GIVING US TROUBLE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GIVE THE EXACT QUIET HOURS FOR SPECIFICALLY NOISE ORDINANCES.
AGAIN, I'M FINDING QUIET HOURS FOR STR, BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE WAIT POINT, SORRY, GO AHEAD AUDREY.
YEAH, SO, SO LET ME SPIN REALLY QUICKLY AND IT VERY MUCH ALONG THE LINES OF KELLY, THERE IS THE SECTION 21, WHICH YOU WERE REFERENCING, WHICH IS ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE CITY'S OVERALL NOISE ORDINANCE.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY DIFFICULT 'CAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT CODES THAT KIND OF ARE PUT TOGETHER TO REFERENCE OUR OVERALL, WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE OUR OVERALL NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND IN THE SECTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AGAIN, THE REASON WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO KIND OF SIMPLIFY OR ARTICULATE WHAT THE RULES ARE IS BECAUSE YOU START OFF WITH THE GENERAL PREMISE OF, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE A NUISANCE OVER CERTAIN DECIBELS IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CITY CAN ENFORCE AND REGULATE AGAINST IT, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS.
IF YOU'RE BY THE RIVERWALK, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN THE RULES CHANGE.
UH, IF YOU ARE DOING CONSTRUCTION, IF YOU'VE APPLIED FOR A WAIVER FROM THE CITY, THEN YOU CAN HAVE CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT FOR US TO KIND OF SIMPLIFY IT OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT THERE, THE CITY DOES HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE, DIFFERENT RULES APPLY AT DIFFERENT TIMES DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WHAT THE EXACT NOISE OF CONCERN IS, AND THEN THE CITY ENFORCES IT BASED ON THOSE RULES.
COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, OR SORRY,
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WHERE ARE WE? WE'RE STILL WITH COMMISSIONER WHITSETT.WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, UH, ON THE SECOND GO ROUND.
UM, I GUESS QUESTION FOR STAFF REGARDING THE NOISE
UM, HOW OFTEN HAS THE NOISE ORDINANCE BEEN ENFORCED? IS IT I, I'M SORRY.
SORRY KELLY FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
I MEAN, IS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT THAT IS, UH, THAT THE, THE, THE CITY REGULARLY SITES, BUSINESSES, I'M THINKING OF, OF, UM, CERTAIN, UH, UM, AREAS IN THE CITY, UM, WHERE NEIGHBORS HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT, ABOUT MUSIC AND EVERYTHING BEFORE.
AND CONCERNS THAT I HAVE HEARD HAVE BEEN THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET, UH, A PLACE CITED IS, AND I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR ANY SORT OF GUIDANCE OR I REALLY COULD NOT ANSWER THAT, THAT WOULD BE BETTER SUITED FROM OUR CODE ORDINANCE TEAM DEPARTMENT DIVISION.
UM, THE, UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT EITHER OR, WHICH WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE IT.
AND THAT'S, UM, LOOKING AT YOUR, WHERE YOU HAVE LOCATED THE, UM, OUTDOOR ROOF TERRACE, IT APPEARS THAT THE, FROM FROM THE SITE PLAN THAT AND FROM GOOGLE MAPS AND LOOKING AT IT, THE ROOF PLAN, UM, THAT YOU'VE ALMOST GOT A SPLIT LEVEL.
UM, AND I, IS IT ONLY IN THE FRONT? IS THE ROOF TERRACE ONLY IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING? YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THERE IS, UH, A STEP DOWN FROM THE MAIN MASS AND THEN THE, THE, THE FRONT PORTION IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER AND THAT'S WHERE THE ROOF TERRACE WOULD BE, MEANING THAT YOU'D HAVE KIND OF A WALL BEHIND YOU WITH THE MAIN MASS OF THE, OF THE BUILDING.
AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? YES SIR.
THE, THE POINT OF THE ROOFTOP ROOFTOP TERRACE IS NOT JUST TO PROVIDE A BEAUTIFUL OUTDOOR AREA, BUT IT'S ALSO, IT ALLOWS A LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER VIEW OF THE MISSION SAN JOSE AS WELL.
SO, UM, THERE IS GONNA BE THAT BACK AREA OF THE BUILDING THAT'S GONNA BE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ACTUAL AREA WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE, UM, GATHERING AND THE TYPE OF MUSIC THAT, YOU KNOW, IS BEING PROPOSED.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE, UH, ROCK MUSIC WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT AMPLIFIERS OUT.
IT'S MORE LIKE VIOLINS, CELLO, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, AND THEN, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF AGAIN, NOT A HARD ONE, I HOPE.
UM, THE C TWO USE ALL C TWO USES ARE EVEN WITH THE IDZ, IT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT'S USES PERMITTED IN C TWO WITH THE ADDITIONAL USES THAT WE'RE KIND OF BASICALLY BRINGING DOWN, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO EARLIER IT WAS MENTIONED THAT A LIQUOR STORE COULD GO IN THERE NOW.
BUT EVEN WITH THE CHANGE IN ZONING, A LIQUOR STORE COULD STILL GO IN THERE? CORRECT.
AS ARE THE AUTOMOBILE USES THOSE ARE, ARE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE, OH WELL WE'RE REMOVING ALL OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, NUISANCES, THOSE, I'M NOT SAYING THE LIQUOR STORE IS THE NUISANCE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE AUTO WORK THAT THOSE USES, THOSE ARE STILL, WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED.
ANYTHING PERMITTED IN C TWO WOULD STILL BE PERMITTED? CORRECT.
UM, AND THE FINAL THING IS, IS SINCE WE'RE BRINGING USES DOWN, YOU COULD SELECT WHICH USES, SO SAY, UM, THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR THE MEETING FACILITY, LIVE MUSIC, THE STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU COULD EXCLUDE BINGO PARLOR FROM THE MOTION AND YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL OF IT.
IT COULD BE CRAFTED DIFFERENTLY, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND, UM, I'VE GOT COMMENTS, BUT I'M GONNA RESERVE THOSE OBVIOUSLY.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSION ON MY LEFT.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ON THE SECOND GO ROUND.
ALRIGHT, UM, BRIEFLY, UH, SOME OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER WOODS WHO ASKED ABOUT, UH, THE NECESSITY OF IDZ.
SO LET'S BEGIN WITH, UH, MS. RAMOS, IF YOU WOULD.
I BELIEVE ONE OF YOUR, UH, SLIDES DISCUSSED THE KIND OF RENOVATION THAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED HERE.
HOW WOULD YOU, HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THAT RENOVATION? UH, IT WOULD
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MOSTLY BE THE, UH, FACADE OF THE BUILDING AND THE INTERIOR OF COURSE.UM, AS FAR AS THE PARKING LOT, IT WOULD BE REPAVED AND RES STRIPPED.
LET'S STICK WITH THE BUILDING.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA DO THE FACADE, THE INTERIOR.
YOU'RE GONNA ADD A STAIRCASE OR STAIRWELL AND YOU'RE GONNA ADD AN ELEVATOR.
HOW MUCH IS THIS BUILDING WORTH CURRENTLY? DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO BECA TO LOOK AT THAT.
MR. GARCIA, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU PAID FOR THE BUILDING? $800,000.
UM, STAFF, IF THEY RENOVATE FOR, LET'S CALL IT $400,000, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S LAND VALUE, ET CETERA, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CERTAIN SETBACKS IN C TWO, CORRECT? IF IT WAS JUST A C TWO PROPERTY, THEY WOULD'VE TO COMPLY WITH ALL SETBACK REGULATIONS, ET CETERA.
THAT WILL DEPEND ON THE PROPOSED SCOPE OF WORK, ACTUALLY.
SO IF THERE'S NO SITE WORK AND WE'RE ONLY DEALING WITH THE INTERIOR, THEN THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED CURRENT CODES, UNLESS THEY APPLY DURING, UNDER THE EXISTING BUILDING CODE.
SO THEY DON'T NEED IDZ BECAUSE THERE'S A SEVEN INCH SETBACK ON THIS PROPERTY? NOT AT THIS MOMENT.
IF, IF IT'S IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING, IS THAT A FAIR? CORRECT.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IDZ COULD BE REQUIRED HERE AS WELL.
UH, MR. GARCIA OR MS. RAMOS, YOU MENTIONED THAT Y'ALL HAD GONE TO HDRC OR HAD STARTED TALK TO OHP ABOUT THIS BUILDING.
IS THAT CORRECT, MR. GARCIA? CORRECT.
UH, WHAT DID YOU DO EXACTLY? WE FURNISHED ALL THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS.
THEY HAD, THEY HAD NO QUESTIONS.
THEY SAID THEY, THEY LIKED THE EXTERIOR.
WE, WE CAME HERE ONE AFTERNOON AND THEY SAID, THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.
SAME KIND OF HEARING? UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S CONS IN, IT WAS IN HERE.
DO YOU KNOW STAFF, DO YOU KNOW IF THIS WAS A PRELIMINARY REVIEW OR WAS IT A FINAL REVIEW FROM HDRC? WE DO NOT AGAIN.
DO DO YOU RECALL IF THEY SAID PRELIMINARY OR FINAL? I DO NOT RECALL.
THEY, THEY TYPICALLY HAVE ANOTHER TECHNICAL REVIEW ONCE THEY SUBMIT BECAUSE THINGS MAY CHANGE.
RIGHT, UH, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS OTHER THAN THE ONES I'VE SNUCK THROUGH.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO AROUND THE HORN AGAIN, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UH, CAN WE RESTRICT HOURS? NOT WITH AN IDZ.
COULD THEY ADD LIKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FOR A RESTRICTION OF OURS THEMSELVES? NO, SIR.
IT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING WE COULD ENFORCE.
UH, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HDRC, BUT IT, WAS IT DRC MAYBE, DID THEY HAVE TO GET REVIEWED AND PLANNED? DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW BY WHO? DRC IS THERE A DRC? I'M NOT AWARE OF A DRC.
MAYBE WE FORGOT A LETTER THERE.
UH, OKAY, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT ONE.
UM, SO I'M ASSUMING WITH THIS WE CANNOT RESTRICT OUTDOOR SPEAKERS AS WELL FOR I-D-C-I-D-C THAT'S NOT COVERED UNDER THAT.
HISTORIC DESIGN AND REVIEW COMMISSION.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE OHP REVIEW.
BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE PROCESS WENT, SO WE DON'T OKAY.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, IF WE COULD RESTRICT, I'M SORRY.
I THINK KELLY, YOU'RE BUSY, BUT, UH, CAN WE RESTRICT OUTDOOR SPEAKERS AND MAYBE JUST HAVE IT WHERE IT CAN ONLY BE ACOUSTIC MUSIC BEING PLAYED OUTSIDE.
AGAIN, NO CONDITIONS CAN BE ADDED TO A IDZ.
AND, AND, AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER WIT ASKED THIS QUESTION AND I BELIEVE OUR CHAIR AS WELL, BUT I I'M GONNA GO AGAIN.
SO THE IDZ IS, OR I'M SORRY, MR. GARCIA, IF YOU CAN COME UP, REMIND ME AGAIN, WHY DO YOU, WHY ARE YOU SEEK OR WHY ARE YOU GUYS, MS. RAM, MS. ROMERO, YOU CAN COME UP TOO.
WHY ARE YOU GUYS BOTH Y'ALL SEEKING IDZ LIKE IN YOUR WORDS, DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THAT? SURE.
UM, THAT'S A GOOD, VERY GOOD QUESTION.
THE REASON WHY IDZ WAS REQUESTED INSTEAD OF JUST C TWO WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION IS THAT IDZ ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBLE, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE UDC.
FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY WERE TO PERHAPS HAVE TO EXCAVATE THE PARKING LOT IN ORDER TO, UH, HAVE THE PARKING SPACES REALIGNED OR SO FORTH, THEN, UH, THE IDZ INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE, UH, DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, UM, HAVE REDUCED, UH, REQUIREMENTS, FOR INSTANCE, FOR LIKE TREE CANOPY, UM, THAT KIND
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OF THING.UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, M MSS, J AND A AND JANE HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT LACK OF PARKING AND SO FORTH.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL TIMES WHEN EXCAVATION IS REQUIRED FOR THE PARKING LOT AND YOU HAVE TO THEN PLANT, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TREES TO MEET THE TREE, UH, CANOPY ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
THEN YOU LOSE MANY OF THE PARKING SPACES WITH IDZ.
THERE'S A REDUCED PERCENTAGE OR REDUCED, REDUCED NUMBER OF POINTS, IF YOU WILL, FOR, UH, THE, UH, PLANTING OF TREES IN THE PARKING LOT.
UM, THEY'LL, IT WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED, BUT IT WOULD JUST, IT WOULD, IT WOULD HELP SAVE THE NUMBER OF SPACES IN THE PARKING AREA.
AND THEN MR. GARCIA, REAL QUICK, IF YOU CAN COME UP IT, IS THAT GONNA BE A BREAK IT OR MAKE IT DEAL? I MEAN, WOULD, WOULD IT, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO A C TWO WITH SPECIFIC USE? I BELIEVE MS. HENRY, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA WRITE.
UH, MS. HENRY, WHAT WAS, I'M SORRY.
WE'RE SUGGESTING A C TWO S SPECIFIC FOR SPECIFIC USE AS AN EVENT CENTER NR NOISE RESTRICTED.
WOULD THAT BE A DEAL BREAKER OR CAN WE SAVE 20 MINUTES AND I JUST
UNDERSTAND BEFORE I AGREE TO SOMETHING.
I DON'T PUT MY FOOT IN MY MOUTH.
DIDN'T MEAN TO BE OFFICIAL THERE.
I, I, I'LL PRELIMINARILY A ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
UM, IF THE NR IS ADDED ON NOISE RESTRICTION OR, UH, IT WOULD PREVENT ANY SORT OF OUTDOOR SPEAKER.
IF HE ENDS UP WANTING TO SELL THE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE, AND LET'S SAY A STARBUCKS WANTS TO GO IN OR A BANK, UM, THEN THEY WOULD BE RESTRICTED ON THEIR OUTDOOR SPEAKER FOR DRIVE-THROUGHS AND SO FORTH.
SO, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, AS FAR AS LIKE HIS BUSINESS, UH, WE WOULD NOT WANT THE NR TO BE ADDED ON.
IF THIS, UH, ZONING CASE IS NOT APPROVED, THEN IT WOULD JUST STAY AT THE C TWO.
AND, UM, UH, I, I DON'T THINK MY CLIENT, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR HIM TO HAVE INVESTED THIS MUCH MONEY TO REZONE TO KEEP IT AT C TWO AND THEN ADD ON A RESTRICTION.
UH, MY, I THINK MY LAST THING THAT'S GONNA BE, I, I THINK WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
I THINK WE NEED TO LOCK THE DOORS AND BOTH SIDES NEED TO COME TOGETHER, HAVE A BIG MEETING OR SOMETHING, INVITE ME, WE CAN TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS AND GET EVERYTHING KIND OF, 'CAUSE TO ME WHAT I, WHAT I'M SEEING IS BOTH SIDES KIND OF HAVE A, UH, WELL I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS.
A LOT OF LITTLE.DOT THE I'S CROSS THE T'S, STUFF LIKE THAT TO KIND OF FIX THAT.
SO LAST THING FOR MS. HENRY, UH, CAN YOU COME UP REAL QUICK, MS. HENRY, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT HE HAS BUSINESSES IN? I'VE HEARD YOU MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT LIKE THE BANDERA ONE AND CALLAHAN, UH, BUT HAVE, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THEM? I, I DID TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY COMPLAINTS.
I DID CONTACT THE, UM, THE HEAD OF THE NEIGHBORS HOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THE, UM, HIS CENTER ON CALLAHAN ROAD.
AND HE SAID THAT HE HARDLY EVER SEES ANY PARKS, ANY CARS PARKED THERE.
UM, HE UM, HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT REALLY GOES ON THERE.
IT'S A VERY LARGE SHOPPING CENTER.
SO, SO, BUT NOTHING LIKE, OH MAN, THIS GUY HAS MUSIC TILL 1230, NOT 12 LIKE HE SAID.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING LIKE HE'S GONE BACK ON HIS WORD.
I DON'T THINK HE LIVES CLOSE TO THERE.
BUT HE DID MENTION, I, I ASKED HIM ABOUT THIS GIANT SLAB THAT WAS UNUSED.
I THINK THAT'S ANSWERS OUR QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? ON MY RIGHT SAYING NONE.
COMMISSIONER CHASE QUESTIONS? NONE.
UH, SO BACK TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE TO, TO SEE WHETHER THE NOISE ORDINANCE WOULD BE SUFFICIENT IN THIS CASE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE RESIDENT CONCERNS.
SO THE, THE NOISE ORDINANCE, DOES THE NOISE OR ORDINANCE ONLY APPLY BETWEEN NIGHTTIME HOURS OR DOES IT APPLY ALSO WITHIN THE DAYTIME HOURS? IT'S, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE APPLIES DURING ALL HOURS.
THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT ARE ACCEPTABLE AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY OR NIGHT.
SO I HAVE THIS, UH, TABLE ONE IN FRONT OF ME IN THE ORDINANCE AND IT TALKS ABOUT A, A MODIFICATION, RIGHT? THAT THE DECIBEL LEVEL HAS TO BE LOWER AT NIGHTTIME THAN IN THE DAYTIME.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
SO THE NOISE ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY IN ALL CASES IF, IF YOU HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO YOU.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE OR UH, THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE SAYS THE DECIBEL LEVEL, THE LIMIT IS FOR COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES? I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO DSD ON THAT ONE 70.
SO 70 DECIBELS, THAT'S LIKE, LIKE A DISHWASHER OR A 70 DECIBELS IS NOT VERY LOUD, RIGHT? I AM NOT THE EXPERT IN THIS, SO I COULD
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NOT ANSWER.SO IT, IT WOULD SEEM THOUGH THAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE WOULD BE OPERATIVE IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE APPLIED TO THIS CASE.
UM, I MEAN, IT LEADS ME TO WONDER WHETHER OUTDOOR MUSIC UNDER THE NOISE ORDINANCE WOULD EVER BE ALLOWED IF, YOU KNOW, AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR MUSIC IS GONNA BE LOUDER THAN A, A VACUUM CLEANER.
UM, IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR READ OF IT OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING? I'M SORRY, REPEAT THE QUESTION ALSO FOR IF THE NOISE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT IT'S, IT'S STATUTORILY A NUISANCE TO HAVE THE MAKING OF NOISE THAT EXCEEDS 70 DECIBELS OF BUSINESS ZONE PROPERTY, I'M WONDERING HOW ONE COULD EVER HAVE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC? IT, TO BE HONEST, IT, I WOULD IMAGINE, I MEAN, YOU SEE IT ALL AROUND AS, UH, MS. RAMOS EVEN SAID, YOU KNOW, LIKE DRIVE THROUGH WHERE YOU HAVE THE SPEAKER, YOU KNOW, VOICING.
SO AGAIN, THERE'S TECHNOLOGY THERE THAT I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL OR AN AUTHORITY ON, AND THAT'S BASICALLY HANDLED BY OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM.
SO I SERIOUSLY COULD NOT ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY.
SO I'M SORRY, BUT IF THERE WAS A VIOLATION, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD ADDRESS IT IF CALLED UPON.
AND NOT JUST AT NIGHT, IT WOULD BE ALSO IN THE DAYTIME.
COURT ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE AVAILABLE, YES.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SUP? I THINK THERE'S ALSO, UH, I WAS LOOKING AT HIS SCREEN OVER THERE ABOUT AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
WOULD THE IDZ QUALIFY AS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT OR WITH, THEY HAVE THE IDZ THERE BECAUSE IT SHOWED AN 85 DECIBEL LIMIT.
WELL, ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, IT'S ITS OWN SPECIAL DISTRICT.
SO YOU COULDN'T HAVE LIKE BOTH ED AND IDZ.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT? ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.
THIS IS A CON, UH, DISTRICT THREE CASE.
SO COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A VERY CONFUSING CASE AT THE BEGINNING.
NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DIFFICULT CASE.
HOWEVER, I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
UH, THIS IS WHAT I'M GONNA, UH, MS. RAMOS, CAN YOU COME UP REAL QUICK? I NEED TO ASK ONE MORE, JUST ONE QUESTION.
HOW, HOW MUCH IF WE CONTINUE THIS FOR FOUR WEEKS, DO YOU THINK THAT'S ENOUGH TIME TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SO WE CAN FINALLY GET EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO HAVE BOTH PARTIES BE ON THE SAME PAGE AND BE ACCEPTING? UM, PER MY PERSONAL OPINION, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THEM FOR TWO YEARS, UM, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE MADE THEIR POINTS VERY CLEAR ON WHAT THEY'RE OPPOSED TO, UM, WHICH WE RESPECT.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT MEETING WITH THEM ANOTHER MONTH IS GONNA CHANGE THEIR MINDS.
UM, HOWEVER, MY CLIENT, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS CLEAR IN THE LAST RESPONSE.
HE'S AGREEABLE TO A, TO KEEPING IT AT C TWO IS SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION INSTEAD OF IDZ.
THE NOISE RESTRICTION HOLD ON.
A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION WILL ONLY ALLOW ONE OF THE USES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PULL DOWN FROM C3 STAFF, IS THAT CORRECT? WE COULD DO A LITTLE BIT
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S LIKE THREE SPECIFIC ITEMS. WE'VE GOT THE PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION, HALL MEETING FACILITY, THAT'S ONE.
USE THE BINGO PARLOR, THAT'S ANOTHER USE.
AND THEN LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS AS A SEPARATE USE.
WE COULDN'T DO ALL THREE BUT COULD POTENTIALLY DO AN S AND A CD FOR TWO OF THE ITEMS. BUT AGAIN, THAT IS SO BEFORE HAVING THEM REMOVE SOMETHING BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LOSING SOME OF THE USES THAT YOU'VE REQUESTED.
SO MS. RAMOS, THAT BEING SAID, WHAT WOULD BE THE USE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER TO DROP? LET, LET ME, LET ME HAVE YOU, LET ME HAVE YOU TALK TO MR. GARCIA.
I I WANT THIS TO BE LIMITED DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT.
IF THE MOTION IS JUST FOR A CONTINUANCE, LET'S, LET'S DO THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD TWO ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A CONTINUANCE BECAUSE I THINK WE FOUND SOME DAY DAYLIGHT, SOME, SOME, SOMETHING GOING ON.
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MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS FOR TWO WEEKS.TWO WEEKS FOR OUR NEXT, UH, MEETING.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 4TH.
ALRIGHT, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
SEEING I'LL SAVE IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, NO, I I THINK THE CONTINUANCE I I IS A, IS A GREAT IDEA.
I WILL SUPPORT IT IS MY OPINION.
THE, UH, THE USED TO BE DROPPED MIGHT BE THE BINGO PARLOR SINCE IT'S NOT A, A, UM, MAJOR USE, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THAT'S A, UM, A SMALLER USE IN IN THE OVERALL SCHEME OF THINGS.
UM, AND MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT IS, UM, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED, OF COURSE I DON'T LIVE, LIVE THERE AND I, I I DO RESPECT THAT, UH, MS. HENRY AND MR. ALEXANDER, WE'VE SEEN THEM MULTIPLE TIMES, ADVOCATE FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, UM, BUT I THINK, UM, THE PARKING IS NOT AS BIG OF AN ISSUE EVEN WITH 400 PEOPLE.
UM, BECAUSE WHEN WE'VE USED EVENT CENTERS BEFORE, IT'S USUALLY MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN A CAR, UM, THAT GO.
UM, I, AND I THINK THAT DEPENDING ON, ON HOW IT'S DONE, THAT THE, THE THE, THE MUSIC WON'T BE AS BIG OF AN ISSUE AS I THINK THAT, UM, AS SAY, UH, THE PAPER TIGER MIGHT BE
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMERS TO MY LEFT.
JUST THAT I THINK THE TWO WEEKS COULD BE A GREAT TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT IF THE PROPOSAL ABOUT, UH, AN SD OR AN S AND A AND A CD.
SO THE SPECIFIC USE OF AUTHORIZATION AND THE CONDITIONAL USE AUTHORIZATION, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT AMOUNT OF TIME FOR YOU TO SEE IF THAT WOULD WORK AND THAT'D BE FEASIBLE FOR YOU.
AND JUST THAT THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NOISE, I, I HOPE AFTER THE CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF THAT THE NO NOISE ORDINANCE SHOULD WORK.
IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN MAYBE THE COUNCIL SHOULD, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS IT TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.
BUT THE NOISE ORDINANCE SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO, TO DEAL WITH YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE NOISE.
KELLY, DID YOU, ARE YOU SIGNALING ME? YES.
I JUST WANTED TO STATE REAL QUICK, UM, IF IT WAS DECIDED TO CHANGE THE PROPOSAL FROM THE IDZ TO LIKE A C TWO BASED ZONE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A REIFICATION AND A RESTART.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AMENDED AT A MEETING, SO JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE IN THAT CASE, I, I WILL GIVE ONE COMMENT, WHICH IS, I DON'T LIKE THE COMBINATION OF S AND CD, UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK, I THINK THAT MAKES IT MUDDY AND A BIT OF A MESS.
SO I'D RATHER HAVE A STRAIGHT UP IDZ.
UH, BUT THAT BEING SAID, THE MOTION IS NOT THAT.
THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VO.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS.
I HOPE YOU ALL CAN GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE IT OUT.
TYPICALLY THIS IS THE TIME WE TAKE OUR BREAK.
YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND YOU WANT TO PUSH THROUGH OR I PUSH THROUGH? PUSH THROUGH.
UH, ONE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS THAT AT 2 21, COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ LEFT AND HE RETURNED AT 2 23.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM PLEASE.
READY? NUMBER 20, GOOD AFTERNOON AT THE GOMEZ SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 20 IS LOCATED AT 55 26 AND FIVE 30 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE GOING FROM R SIX TO C TWO ALL OVER RELEASE TO REMAIN THE SAME.
29 NOTICES SENT ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED
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ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD CITY STATION IS OPPOSED OF THE ORIGINAL REQUEST AND IS IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDED REQUEST.SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ABUTTING AND ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE COULD CONTRIBUTE TO COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL BLOCK.
WHILE THERE ARE COMMERCIAL USES IN PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THERE ARE LOCATED AT INTERSECTIONS OR ENDS OF BLOCK FACES WHILE THE REQUESTED ZONE CHANGES, NOT STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AMEND THE REQUEST TO SEE ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
ALRIGHT, UH, IF WE HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE.
I'VE GOT A LITTLE PRESENTATION.
UM, OKAY, THIS IS THE, THE PROPERTY WE'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE.
YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
IT'S IN ALTA VISTA, JUST WEST OF ST.
PEDRO ON THE CORNER OF WOODLAWN AND NORTH FLORA STREET.
AND THAT'S THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.
I'M GONNA EXPLAIN AS WE GO THROUGH THE SLIDE PRESENTATIONS, BUT WE, OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR C TWO COMMERCIAL AND IN WORKING WITH ALTAVISTA IN RETURN FOR THEIR SUPPORT WE'RE, I'M OFFICIALLY AMENDING OUR REQUEST TO C ONE, SO I'M ASKING FOR C ONE VERSUS C TWO.
SO THAT'S THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
I LIVED AROUND THE CORNER UP IN FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS, UP UNTIL ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
AND THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BUILDINGS RIGHT THERE.
SO THE CLIENT, THE DEVELOPER, UH, HAS PURCHASED THE NORTH EAST, EAST CORNER OF FLORES AND WOODLAWN AND IT'S CALLED THE ART OF CELLARING.
WHAT THEY'VE DONE THERE, THE BUILDING WAS AN EYESORE AGAIN FOR YEARS.
WHAT THEY'VE DONE THERE IS IT'S A WINE BAR AND COFFEE SHOP.
THEY HAVE WINE LOCKERS WHERE YOU CAN STORE YOUR WINE AND THEY HAVE A PRIVATE MEETING ROOM FOR MEMBERS OF THE, THAT THAT HAVE LOCKERS.
AND THEN UPSTAIRS THEY HAVE CLASSROOMS WHERE SOMMELIER GIVES WINE CLASSES.
AND THIS WAS A BUILDING BEFORE KIND OF AN EYESORE.
I NEVER REALLY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THERE.
SO THE DEVELOPERS HAVE A VERY GOOD TRACK RECORD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY'VE KIND OF TAKEN AN EYESORE AND REALLY MADE IT A WONDERFUL BUILDING THAT'S A AND AND RESTORED IT AND IT'S A, A, A BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY OPENED UP THE CEILINGS AND YOU CAN SEE THE NICE WOODWORK AND EVERYTHING.
SO THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT MY CLIENT WILL HAVE EITHER THEY, THEY HAVE THE, THE BUILDING THERE ON THE, ON THE BOTTOM LEFT AND THE KIND OF THE, WHAT WE CALL THE AMBULANCE GRAVEYARD ON THE BOTTOM LEFT UNDER CONTRACT.
THEY OWN THE VACANT LOT THAT I'M REZONING TODAY.
AND OF COURSE THEY OWN THE BUILDING, EXCUSE ME, A BUILDING THERE AT THE TOP WHERE THE UH, WINE BAR IS.
SO THIS IS THE AMBULANCE GRAVEYARD.
IT WAS AN EYESORE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YEARS.
AND THIS IS THE BUILDING, UM, THAT'S ALSO BEEN AN EYESORE.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE GOAL IS TO TURN THAT BUILDING INTO ANOTHER RESTAURANT AND COFFEE SHOP.
AND WHAT I'M REZONING WILL BE SORT OF OUTDOOR SEATING PATIO AREA, PLAYGROUND WITH A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING IN BACK AND THE C ONE THAT WE'RE AMENDING TO WILL CERTAINLY ALLOW THAT.
AND JUST A COUPLE MORE SLIDES.
I WANNA SHOW THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN FLORA STREET.
I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE HEARD OF THAT.
IT'S A REALLY GOOD RESTAURANT RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN LAST YOU MIGHT RECALL ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO WAS BEFORE YOU FOR THIS CASE, WHICH IS ON THE CORNER OF FLORES AND ASHBY, WHERE THEY'RE CONVERTING AN OLD GAS STATION TO A RESTAURANT AND BUILDING APARTMENTS.
SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR C ONE.
AS I STATED, WE HAD, WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT AS WELL.
UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD PLAY THE VOICEMAIL PLEASE.
I AM THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE CHAIR OF THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, LEAVING THIS MESSAGE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF THE ALTA STENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I LIVE AT 7 1 4 WEST RUSSELL PLACE AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 288-4883.
DEAR ZONING COMMISSION, UH, REGARDING, UH, THE CASE NUMBER Z 20 25 1 7 0 2 3 2 REGARDING 5 26 AND FIVE 30 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE.
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE AL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOES NOT SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR C TWO ZONING.
HOWEVER, THE BOARD WOULD HAVE NO OBJECTION TO C ONE ZONING SHOULD THE APPLICANT CHOOSE TO AMEND THE REQUEST TO C ONE.
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UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO TECHNICAL CHALLENGES WITH OUR EMAIL SYSTEM AND BECAUSE WE DID NOT RECEIVE THE PHYSICAL LETTER ABOUT THE HEARING FROM THE CITY, WE WERE MADE AWARE OF THIS REQUEST TECHNICAL DETAILS ONLY ONE DAY BEFORE THE HEARING.THEREFORE, WE DID NOT HAVE THE TIME TO SEEK INPUT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO LIVE NEARBY OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT LARGE AS WE WOULD TYPICALLY DO BEFORE FORMING AN OPINION.
HOWEVER, WE BELIEVE THAT C ONE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOCATION BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO WOODLAWN AVENUE AND OTHER COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ON FOREST STREET.
THE LOT HAS LONG BEEN EMPTY GENERATING NO INTEREST IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE BELIEVE C ONE OFFERS MORE FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW THE ADJOINING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AT 5 38 WOODLAWN AND FLORES TO OPERATE SUCCESSFULLY AND TO SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S VISION FOR MORE LOCAL RETAIL SIGNING AND ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THIS IS AARON IKA WITH THE ON BEHALF OF THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ALRIGHT, HEARING AND SEEING NONE.
PATRICK, DO YOU WANT SOME REBUTTAL? I'LL ASK A QUESTION.
THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE COMMISSIONER KELLUM TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, CHAIR, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OR THERE FOR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER DUO FOR FOR STAFF.
IF I UNDERSTAND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHY? ON WHAT BASIS? WHAT, WHAT WAS THE UH, THE BASIS OF THAT RECOMMENDATION? UM, BASICALLY THIS IS A PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST FELT THAT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR ENCROACHMENT OF COMMERCIAL NATURE INTO THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, OR I'M SORRY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL BLOCK FACE.
AND, UM, THEY ACTUALLY, IT'S PART OF A PLAN EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LITTLE BIT OLDER PLAN, UM, FROM 2000, IT IS DESIGNATED AS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WOULD SUPPORT, UH, BASE ZONING OF RESIDENTIAL USES.
TYPICALLY, WE DO OFFER OPTIONS.
WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE USE WERE OR WE WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED SOMETHING OF KEEPING A RESIDENTIAL BASE ZONE AND JUST DOING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR, UH, THAT USE OR THAT, UM, COMMERCIAL USE.
AND A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT, THE PREVAILING USES ON THE ADJACENT BLOCKS.
SO ALONG, UM, WHAT IS IT, WOODLAWN? MM-HMM
SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE PREVAILING USES ON THE SURROUNDING BLOCKS ALONG WOODLAWN? WELL, WE DO HAVE ALONG, UM, TO THE NORTH, YOU DO SEE A LOT OF THE R SIX AND R SIX CD FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
SO, BUT ESPECIALLY ALONG THAT, UM, THE INTERSECTION, WHICH IS WOODLAWN AVENUE, WAIT, WOODLAWN AVENUE, AND THEN FLORA STREET, WHICH GOES NORTH AND SOUTH.
I MEANT YOU DO HAVE A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR THERE THAT ALLOWS MORE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES.
AGAIN, WE JUST WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SUPPORTING A COMMERCIAL BASE ZONE FOR THIS PROPERTY.
AS YOU'RE COMING CLOSER INTO THE, THE RESIDENCE, THE RESIDENCES.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH OH RIGHT, THE MAP IS UP.
SO I SUPPOSE IT DOESN'T SHOW THE, THE BLOCKS TO THE WEST AND TO THE EAST.
SO THE, THE CONCERN IS, IS THAT THIS BLOCK IS PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL IN THE CENTER OF THE BLOCK.
AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT THAT'S A CONCERN? TYPICALLY IN TYPICAL LAND USE PRACTICES, YOU WANNA KEEP THE COMMERCIAL TOWARDS THE INTERSECTIONS AWAY AND, UM, NOT PUT IT SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK FACE.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE JUST FELT YOU'VE GOT YOUR BACK.
YOU CAN SEE THE TWO PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH THERE THAT ARE BUDDING IT.
THEY LOOK TO BE RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
I'M GOING TO TRIPLE CHECK MY MAP.
YEAH, SO THE R SIX AND R SIX CD FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USES, AND THEN THERE'S R SIX, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH THERE.
SO I DO SEE, AGAIN, THERE'S COMMERCIAL TO THE, THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT AGAIN, STAFF TYPICALLY DOESN'T WANNA SUPPORT, UM, UNLESS YOU SEE SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT ALREADY, UM, COMING ALONG THE STREET.
DID I, DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY FROM THE, UH, THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE THAT THE PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE THE, THE 5 38 PARCEL? OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? THE ZONING DOES NOT INCLUDE IT.
UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, I MEAN, THE BUILDING, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE, UM, THE AERIAL, IT'S RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF EXTEND OUTDOOR RESTAURANT SPACE JUST TO THE EAST OF THE BUILDING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE C ONE SOMETHING.
AND BACK TO STAFF, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION KNOWING THAT THE
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FOOTPRINT OF THE PROJECT WOULD IN FACT BE A LONG, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THAT STREET, BUT, BUT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ON THE FLORES, IS THAT ON, ON THE CORNER? MM-HMMKNOWING THAT THE PROJECT WOULD BE ON, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? NO.
WOULD IT STAY THE SAME? AGAIN, WE WOULD PROPOSE TO KEEP IT A RESIDENTIAL BASED ZONE AT LEAST.
SO, BUT THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
COMMISSIONER DOBELL QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? SEEING NONE QUESTIONS REMOTELY.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER KELLUM TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
I, I THINK THE, THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA IS, IS DONE VERY WELL.
UH, I APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE BEAUTIFICATION QUITE FRANKLY OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
I ALSO LIKE THE FACT THAT IT'S, UM, UH, THE AMENDED TO THE C ONE.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD TRANSITION FROM THE C TWO TO THE R SIX.
AND SO I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ IS THE SECOND.
DISCUSSION COMMERS TO MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER CHASE DISCUSSION? NO.
UH, I DID LOVE THE PHRASE, UH, AMBULANCE GRAVEYARD.
UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED FOR ITEM NUMBER 20 BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
ALRIGHT, WE DO HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS, UH, THAT ARE NOT ZONING CASES.
UH, THE FIRST IS DISCUSSION AND ELECTION OF THE OPEN ZONING COMMISSION PRO TIM CHAIR PROM FOR THE REMAINING TERM.
UH, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR ANY NOMINATIONS.
COMMISSIONER? I NOMINATE COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
THERE IS A NOMINATION FOR COMMISSIONER.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER NOMINATION? HEARING NONE.
ALRIGHT, THEN WE CAN DO THIS BY ACCLAMATION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER KELLUM TO FILL THE COMMISSION PRO TIM, FOR THE REMAINING TERMS, SAY AYE.
ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.
ALRIGHT, UH, CONGRATULATIONS AS ALWAYS WITH THE QUESTION MARK.
ALRIGHT, THE SECOND ITEM, UH, ON THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE 2026 ZONING COMMISSION MEETING CALENDAR.
UH, IF STAFF COULD GIVE US A BRIEF PRESENTATION AS TO THIS ITEM AS, UH, PER CODE ALL ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRST AND THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.
UM, SO I HAVE PUT TOGETHER HERE BASICALLY THE DEADLINES FOR THE DATES WITH THEIR ALIGNED, UM, APPLICABLE PLANNING COMMISSION, ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH IS THE THIRD COLUMN, AND THEN TENTATIVE CITY COUNCIL DATE.
UM, I DID REQUEST, UM, I'M PRESENTING AN AMENDMENT, UM, FOR THE JANUARY 20 OR I WANTED TO REMOVE THE JANUARY 6TH MEETING AND PROPOSING THAT ANYTHING SUBMITTED FOR THAT MEETING WILL BE PUSHED TO THE JANUARY 20TH MEETING JUST BECAUSE OF ITS CONFLICTS WITH OUR HOLIDAYS, UH, PERIOD OF CLOSURE.
SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO OMIT THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY OF 2026? CORRECT.
ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT SEEING? YES.
COMMISSIONER SIPES? UM, JUST FOR NEWER COMMISSIONERS, UM, TYPICALLY WE DO CANCEL THAT FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.
IT'S COMMON PRACTICE TIME AND MEMORIAL AS IT WERE.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE 2026 ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED, SAY AYE.
IS THERE A DIRECTOR'S WHOOP, BEFORE WE GET THERE
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NOW, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.ANY CORRECTIONS? AMENDMENTS, AMENDMENTS, CHANGES TO THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.
LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO ACCEPT? OKAY, SECOND.
ALRIGHT, UH, THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND TO, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.
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ALRIGHT.IS THERE AN I'LL I'LL ABSTAIN THEM.
UH, GOOD THING YOU SHOULD ABSTAIN IF YOU'RE NOT PRESENT FOR THE MEETING.
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THERE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO DIRECTOR'S REPORT.JUST WANNA SAY WELCOME TO THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR OUR BRAND NEW COMMISSIONER, DISTRICT NINE COMMISSIONER MOSES, UM, DWELL.
THIS MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION IS ADJOURNED.