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>> KAUR: THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING.
THE TIME IS NOW 20:95 P.M. AND WE'LL CALL THE COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER.
MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> MADAM, WE HAVE A QUORUM. >> KAUR: AWESOME. WE HAVE SOME EXCITING STUFF
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ON THE AGENDA TODAY SO WE'RE EXCITED TO KICK IT OFF. THE FIRST ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY REVISIONS TO THE MINUTES, COULD YOU SAY SO NOW? OTHERWISE I'LL TAKE A MOTION MOTION.WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION PASSES.
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ALL RIGHT. SO THE FIRST ITEM UP FOR AGENDA IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST BY COUNCIL MEMBER ALDERETE GAVITO ON ADDRESSING CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT IN THE COMMUNITY.I'LL PASS IT OVER TO YOU. >> CHAIR, IF -- JUST TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM VERY QUICKLY, THIS HAS BEEN A TEAM EFFORT. WE'VE BEEN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MICHELLE RAMOS WHO HAS BEEN HELPING ON THE POLICE SIDE.
AND ALSO ELENA REED WHO HAS BEEN WORKING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN. AND A SPECIAL PROJECT, CASSANDRA LEGISLATOR WITH AVIATION DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN HELPING US WITH THE FOCUS GROUPS AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS TO PRESENT THIS RECOMMENDATION TO YOU TODAY.
ALSO FOR THE NEW MEMBERS TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, WE HAVE BROUGHT THE CCR BACK IN MARCH OF 2025 TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS. SO TODAY PROVIDES AN UPDATE AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW
TO IMPLEMENT THE CCR. SO WITH THAT, MICHELLE. >> YES, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION. I'M ONCE AGAIN MICHELLE RAMOS, DEPARTMENT CHIEF WITH THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'M GOING TO BE PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT ALONG WITH ELENA REED, THE COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT DIRECTOR. SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS COUNCIL CONSIDERATION BACKGROUND, APPLICABLE LAWS, HISTORICAL CRIME DATA, STATS AS THEY PERTAIN TO MAILBOX CLUSTER THEFT, SOLVEABILITY ISSUES, THE TASK FORCE MEETINGS THAT WERE CONDUCTED OVER THE SUMMER AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FROM THOSE MEETINGS. I'M GOING TO FIRST START WITH THE LAWS. YOU HAVE YOUR STATE LAW PENAL CODE 31.20 MAIL THEFT.
THAT PROHIBITS THEFT OF MAIL FROM MAILBOXES AND THE PREMISES.
SO YOU HAVE BE CLASS A. IF YOU HAVE 10 BUT FEWER THAN 30 ADDRESSES THAT WILL BE A STATE JAIL FELONY. IF YOU HAVE 30 OR MORE ADDRESSES THAT WILL BE A THIRD DEGREE FELONY. RECENTLY ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025, YOU HAD SENATE BILL 1281 THAT WAS PASSED. THAT ENHANCED PENALTIES IF THE OFFENDER TARGETS ELDERLY OR DISABLED INDIVIDUALS. YOU ALSO HAVE FEDERAL LAW WHICH IS TITLE 18 U.S. CODE 1708 THAT DEALS WITH THEFT OR RECEIPT OF STOLEN MAIL, WHICH COULD RESULT IN FINES OR IMPRISONMENT OF NOT MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OR POTENTIALLY BOTH.
I WANT TO ALSO ADD SENATE BILL 1281. IT EXPANDED AND INCREASED PENALTIES FOR MAIL THEFT TO INCLUDE MAKING IT A CRIME TO STEAL THE USPS UNIVERSAL KEYS, THOSE ARE THE KEYS THAT POSTAL WORKERS USE TO OPEN CLUSTER MAILBOXES.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL CRIME DATA.
WE COLLECTED DATA FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, FOR THOSE OFFENSES WHERE THEY APPROPRIATED MAIL OF FEW IRRELEVANT THAN 10 ADDRESSES, FROM 2023 TO CURRENT WE SEE THOSE NUMBERS GOING UP. IN 2023 YOU HAD 1,570.
YEAR TO DATE FOR 2025 WE HAVE 1,323. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT IN 30 OR MORE ADDRESSES IN 2023 WE HAD 70, 2024 THAT NUMBER INCREASED TO 97, AND YEAR TO DATE WE'RE NOT DONE WITH 2025, WE HAVE 126. WE ALSO INCLUDED THE STATS FOR ARRESTS FOR THESE OFFENSES, SAME THREE CATEGORIES, FEWER THAN 10 FROM 2023 TO 2024, THOSE NUMBERS REMAINED THE SAME AND 2025 WE HAVE SEVEN
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ARRESTS. HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT 30 OR MORE ADDRESSES FROM 2023 WE HAD TWO ARRESTS WHERE IN 2025 YEAR TO DATE WE'RE AT SIX.SO HERE WE HAVE A HEAT MAP OF SAPD REPORTED THEFT OF MAIL-RELATED OFFENSES.
THIS DATA WAS COLLECTED FROM JANUARY TO SEPTEMBER OF 2025 2025.
THEFT OF MAIL LESS THAN 10 ADDRESSES, THAT NUMBER 1323, THEFT OF MAIL 10 TO 30 AND THEFT OF MAIL 30 OR MORE. SO WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE, EVERY YEAR THE HEAT MAP LOOKS DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE IMPACTED BY CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT. OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS APARTMENT COMPLEXES AT THE HAVE BEEN TOP FOR THE LOCATIONS MOST IMPACTED BY CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT. THIS YEAR IS NO DIFFERENT. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE THE LOCATION HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MEDICAL CENTER AREA, WHICH HAS A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF APARTMENTS. SO NEXT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOLVEABILITY ISSUES. SAPD INVESTIGATES CLAIMS OF PROPERTY DAMAGE TO CLUSTER MAILBOXES AND MAIL THEFT. SAPD, HOWEVER, FACES SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES IN INVESTIGATING AND RESOLVING THESE CRIMES. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND KEY OBSTACLES INCLUDE THE ABSENCE OF CRUCIAL INVESTIGATIVE LEADS SUCH AS IN PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, FOOTPRINTS, EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS, LACK OF DETAILED DESCRIPTIONS OF SUSPECT VEHICLES AND UNDERREPORTING OF THESE INCIDENTS. THIS CRIME OFTEN EXTENDS ITSELF INTO OTHER CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES SUCH AS FRAUDULENT USE OF IDENTIFYING INFORMATION, ALSO KNOWN AS IDENTITY THEFT. IN THESE CASES YOU HAVE CREDIT CARDS AND IDS THAT ARE BEING STOLEN FROM MAIL. SO BEFORE SAPD SCHEDULED THESE TASK FORCE MEETINGS WE CONDUCTED AN ANALYSIS OF THE DATA.
SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WE WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS LIVING IN DIVISIONS THAT WERE MOST IMPACTED BY CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT THEFT.
AND BASED ON THE DATA WE REACHED OUT TO THE HOAS WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF REPORTED OFFENSES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TASK FORCE.
THESE MEETINGS WERE HELD JUNE 18TH, JUNE -- SORRY, JUNE 12TH, JUNE 18TH AND THE 26TH. SOME OF THE ATTENDEES INCLUDED OF COURSE THE HOA COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE HAVE ONE WHO IS IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.
DEPARTMENTS FROM COSA, SAPD, [INDISCERNIBLE]. WE ALSO HAD CITY PUBLIC SERVICE, THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE, THE U.S. POSTAL INSPECTION SERVICE, SAN ANTONIO BOARD OF REALTORS, THE SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND FROM HERE -- THE CHARGE WAS TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC CRIME PREVENTION MEASURES AND CREATE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PROCESS IMPROVEMENT REGARDING INVESTIGATIONS. WE ALSO WANTED TO CREATE A TARGETED PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN FOCUSED ON PREVENTION STRATEGIES AND LEGAL CONSEQUENCES OF COMMITTING THESE CRIMES. WE ALSO DISCUSSED CPS'S ANSL PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE ALL NIGHT SECURITY LIGHTING, AROUND MAILBOXES.
SO THE TASK FORCE CAME TOGETHER AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THOSE INCLUDED PROVIDE A GUIDE TO RESIDENTS ON HOW TO REPORT MAIL THEFT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. MANY OF THEM DIDN'T KNOW TO REPORT IT TO BOTH SAPD AND THE USPS. PROVIDE INFORMATION ON MAILBOX AND LOCK REPLACEMENT AS WELL AS IDENTIFY SPECIFIC CRIME PREVENTION MEASURES RELATED TO MAIL THEFT SUCH AS LIGHTING, SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS AND SIGNAGE. AND THIS WAS TO BETTER AZEST HOAS WITH OBTAINING AND INSTALLING SECURITY LIGHTING AROUND THE CLUSTER BOX UNITS. WE ALSO DISCUSSED CREATING A TARGETED PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN FOCUSED ON PREVENTION STRATEGIES AND LEGAL CONSEQUENCES.
WE COULD DO THAT THROUGH PUBLIC SAFETY ANNOUNCEMENTS, CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT FOR RESIDENTS AND CREATE AN SAPD WEB PAGE DEDICATED TO CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT.
WE WOULD COME BACK AND PROVIDE PROGRESS UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
SO KEY PARTNERS IN THE TASK FORCE INCLUDING KEY MEMBERS OF THE IS POSTAL SERVICE AND THE UNIVERSAL KEYS AS WELL AS HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM BECOMING A VICTIM. I'M NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ELENA REED WHO WILL GO OVER THE PUBLIC AWARENESS AND
EDUCATION CAMPAIGN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M ELENA REED, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT.
THIS CAMPAIGN IS A BILINGUAL PUBLIC AWARENESS EFFORT FOCUSED ON THE RISE OF CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFTS ACROSS SAN ANTONIO NEIGHBORHOODS.
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WHEN COUNCILMAN ALDERETE GAVITO FIRST BROUGHT THIS ITEM FORWARD I CALLED HER OFFICE TO THANK HER BECAUSE I HAD JUST EXPERIENCED A CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT IN MY OWN CONDO COMMUNITY A FEW MONTHS EARLIER SO I KNOW FIRSTHAND HOW CONFUSING, FRUSTRATING AND NOT KNOWING WHO TO CALL OR WHAT TO DO. SO FOR ME THIS CAMPAIGN WAS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. OUR FIRST GOAL WITH THIS CAMPAIGN -- OUR GOAL WITH THIS CAMPAIGN IS THREE FOLD. FIRST TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THIS GROWING ISSUE.SECOND, TO PROMOTE SIMPLE, EFFECTIVE STRATEGIES AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL AND THIRD TO MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENTS KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO REPORT THEFTS AND WHO TO CONTACT WHEN THEY SEE SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY. THE CAMPAIGN EMPHASIZES PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN RESIDENTS, CITY DEPARTMENTS, THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO REDUCE THEFTS AND KEEP NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE.
TO REACH RESIDENTS EFFECTIVELY WE'RE USING A MIX OF COMMUNICATION CHANNELS. FIRST A DEDICATED WEB PAGE AT SA.GOV/SAPD WITH PREVENTION AND REPORTING INFORMATION, A PRESS RELEASE TO LOCAL MEDIA ALONG WITH UPDATES AND NEIGHBORHOOD NEWSLETTERS, A SHORT PSA VIDEO IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH PRODUCED BY OUR OWN TVSA TEAM THAT WILL RUN ON YOUTUBE AND SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS. PRINTED FLYERS AND POSTERS AVAILABLE AT LIBRARIES, SENIOR CENTERS, COMMUNITY CENTERS AND HOPEFULLY YOUR COUNCIL OFFICES.
AND THE GOAL IS FOR THESE TO BE POSTED NEAR CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFTS WHERE THEFTS HAVE BEEN REPORTED OR FOR DIGITAL VERSIONS TO BE POSTED ON COMMUNITY SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES. FINALLY, WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE SAPD SAFFE OFFICERS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAMS TO HOST COMMUNITY BRIEFINGS TO ENSURE THAT IT REACHES RESIDENTS WHERE THEY LIVE IN THE LANGUAGE THEY PREFER WITH CLEAR STEPS FOR PREVENTION AND REPORTING. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PRINTED FLYER AND THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE POSTERS LOOK LIKE. AGAIN, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THESE AVAILABLE, PRINTED AT LIBRARIES, SENIOR CENTERS, COMMUNITY CENTERS AND COUNCIL OFFICES FOR PEOPLE TO PICK UP. WE'LL ALSO HAVE DIGITAL VERSIONS ON THE SA.GOV/SAPD WEB PAGE. AGAIN, WE ENCOURAGE NEIGHBORS TO POST THEM NEAR THEIR CLUSTER MAILBOXES. THIS SLIDE SHOWS AN EXAMPLE OF THE NEWSLETTER TEMPLATES AND SOCIAL MEDIA GRAPHICS WE'LL BE USING TO SHARE THE CAMPAIGN ACROSS MULTIPLE PLATFORMS. WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL PUT IT IN YOUR COUNCIL NEWSLETTERS AS WELL TO SHARE THE MESSAGE.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE'LL END WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT VIDEO.
THIS IS THE ENGLISH VERSION, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A SPANISH VERSION, AND THIS WILL RUN ON OUR CITY SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS AND TVSA. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHARE IT AS WELL. AFTER THIS VIDEO I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO DEPUTY CHIEF RAMOS TO CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION. SO TEAM, READY TO PLAY THE
VIDEO? >> IN SAN ANTONIO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THRIVE ON TRUST, COMMUNITY AND CONNECTION. BUT THERE'S A GROWING THREAT
SITTING CLOSE TO HOME AND IT STARTS HERE. >> MAILBOX CLUSTER THIEVES IS ON THE RISE, PUTTING YOUR INFORMATION AT RISK. IT'S A CRIME AND IT'S HAPPENING ALL ACROSS SAN ANTONIO. YOU CAN PROTECT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. CHECK YOUR MAIL BAILEY AND REPORT ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS RIGHT AWAY. SOMETIMES THIEVES BREAK INTO THE CLUSTER BOXES CAUSING ALL THIS DAMAGE, BUT NOT ALWAYS. SOMETIMES THEY HAVE STOLEN THE MASTERS TO THE BOXES. YOU CAN SIGN UP TO KNOW WHETHER YOU SHOULD HAVE MAIL IN YOUR BOX. IF YOU SEE ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS REPORT IT RIGHT AWAY BY CALLING THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER. AND IF YOU CAN [INDISCERNIBLE], REPORT IT TO THE SUFFICIENT POSTAL SERVICE OR ONLINE. SAFE MAIL MEANS A SAFE COMMUNITY. LET'S STOP MAILBOX THEFT TOGETHER.
>> STAY INFORMED, STAY PROTECTED AND REPORT MAILBOX THEFT TODAY.
>> >> SO SOME OF THE COMPONENTS TO THE PUBLIC AWARENESS AND EDUCATION CAMPAIGN INCLUDE, ONE, AS YOU CAN SEE, ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS TO SIGN UP FOR USPS INFORMED DELIVERY. THAT GIVES YOU A PREVIEW OF YOUR MAIL AND PACKAGES SCHEDULED TO ARRIVE SOON, AS WELL AS TO HAVING SAFFE PROVIDE PREVENTION PRESENTATIONS TO HOAS AND RESIDENTS OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES. AS YOU CAN SEE TO THE RIGHT, THAT PUBLIC AWARENESS AND EDUCATION, THAT'S AN ACTUAL SCREENSHOT OF WHAT USPS' INFORMED DELIVERY NOTIFICATIONS LOOK LIKE. AND SO INVITED TO THE TASK FORCE WAS CPS.
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THEY WERE ASKED ABOUT INFORMATION FOR THE CPS ALL NIGHT SECURITY LIGHTING PROGRAM. AND SO WHAT EXACTLY IS IT? IT'S A SECURITY LIGHTING THAT'S INSTALLED AND MAINTAINED BY CPS ENERGY AND IT'S BILLED MONTHLY TO THE CUSTOMER OF RECORD. HOW TO REQUEST IT. FOR REQUESTS OF ONE TO FIVE LIGHT, CUSTOMERS WITH FILL OUT THE FORM ON THEIR WEBSITE.FOR FIVE-PLUS LIGHTS THE CUSTOMERS REQUESTING THE LIGHTS MUST HIRE AN ENGINEER ELECTRICIAN TO DESIGN, FOUR INITIAL AND INSTALL THE LIGHTS.
WHAT DOES THIS COST? COST IS BILLED AT A MONTHRY RATE TO THE CUSTOMER OF RECORD OR THE METER WHERE THE LIGHT IS LINKED TO. IF IT'S A NEW BUILD AND THERE'S GOING TO BE AN UP FRONT INFRASTRUCTURE COST, FOR EXAMPLE, THE NEW POLE, ENERGIZING AND ET CETERA, OVERALL COST VARIES BASED ON THE NUMBER OF LIGHTS AND THE COST OF INSTALLATION COMPLEXITY OF THE WORK AS WELL AS THE WATTAGE.
CPS ENERGY WILL OWN AND MAINTAIN ALL LIGHTS AFTER INSTALLATION.
THERE'S A MINIMUM THREE-YEAR COMMITMENT TO THE MONTHLY BILL AND A SIGNED CONTRACT IS REQUIRED. IN ADDITION, NO MORE THAN FIVE OF THESE LIGHTS WILL BE ALLOWED PER PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR REQUESTS IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS WITH PRIVATE STREETS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LINK ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE WHERE YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT PROGRAM. SO WE ALSO LOOKED AT HOW TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND CLUSTER MAILBOXES.
SO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UDC UPDATES -- UDC UPDATES AIM TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE.
AND THIS IS DONE EVERY FIVE YEARS. CURRENTLY THE UDC DOES NOT HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS TO INCLUDE INSTALLING A LIGHT AT EACH MAILBOX CLUSTER. STAFF RECOMMENDS UPDATING THE STREET LIGHT REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS TO INCLUDE INSTALLING A LIGHT AT EACH MAILBOX CLUSTER AND THE NEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE WILL BEGIN IN JANUARY OF 2027.
SO HOW DO WE MEASURE THE IMPACT OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE? SO COSA AND SAPD METRICS WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF REPORTED MAIL THEFTS, PRE- VERSUS POST CAMPAIGN, ALSO THE NUMBER OF ARRESTS OR INVESTIGATIONS PRE- VERSUS POST CAMPAIGN. THE NUMBER OF VISITS TO THE COSA AND SAPD WEBSITE. WE'LL ALSO MEASURE THE NUMBER OF SOCIAL MEDIA IMPRESSIONS REGARDING THESE POSTS, AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WATCHING AND SHARING OUR PSA. COSA WILL ASK USPS FOR THE NUMBER OF MAIL HOLDS ASKED FOR VACATIONS OR TIME AWAY PRE- VERSUS POST CAMPAIGN, AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF SIGN-UPS FOR USPS INFORMED DELIVERY, PRE- VERSUS POST. COSA WILL ALSO ASK CPS FOR THE NUMBER OF HOAS REQUESTING PARTICIPATION IN THE ANSL PROGRAM, PRE- VERSUS POST CAMPAIGN. SO NEXT STEPS, SAPD AND C AND E WILL LAUNCH THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN IN COORDINATION WITH U.S. POST OFFICE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR SAFFE OFFICERS AND CODE OFFICERS TRAINED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AT HOMEOWNERS' ASSOCIATION MEETINGS. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL INCORPORATE CHANGES TO CODE TO REQUIRE NEW DEVELOPMENT TO INCLUDE INSTALLATION OF A LIGHT AT EACH MAILBOX CLUSTER AT THE NEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE IN JANUARY OF 2027. AND WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IN JUNE OF 2026. THIS WILL GIVE US SIX MONTHS OF DATA AFTER IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROPOSED MEASURES. THE FEEDBACK FROM HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATIONS WILL BE GATHERED TO DETERMINE THE RESULTS OF THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN.
AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND REVIEW THE CRIME STATS. AND THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION ON CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT. THANK YOU.
>> KAUR: THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND START OFF WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THERE'S NO ACTION ON
THIS ITEM, CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> KAUR: SO LET'S HAVE YOU COME UP AND SHARE ANY OF YOUR ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS THAT YOU WANT OR NEED TO
HAVE US LISTEN TO. >> GAVITO: THANK YOU, CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE ON THE COMMITTEE. WHEN I FIRST BROUGHT THIS PROPOSAL IN THE FALL OF 2024 IT WAS BECAUSE RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT 7 AND ACROSS THE CITY WERE GETTING HIT BY CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT AGAIN AND AGAIN. WHAT USED TO BE AN OCCASIONAL PROBLEM HAD BECOME FAR TOO COMMON AND IT WAS ALARMING.
PEOPLE WERE LOSING CHECKS, PACKAGES, PERSONAL INFORMATION AND IN SOME CASES EVEN GETTING THEIR IDENTITIES STOLEN. ON TOP OF THAT, HOAS [INDISCERNIBLE] SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO REPLACE CLUSTER MAILBOXES
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BECAUSE USPS HAD SHIFTED THAT RESPONSIBILITY. IT WAS STRESSFUL, AUDIO] AND PEOPLE'S SENSE OF SAFETY IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.I RECOGNIZE THAT MAIL DELIVERY IS TECHNICALLY A FEDERAL RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THESE ARE OUR RESIDENTS AND THEY WERE LOOKING TO US TO HELP.
THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO EXPLORE WHAT LOCAL STEPS WE COULD TAKE TO IMPROVE SAFETY. I WANT TO GIVE A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO THE TASK FORCE AND SAPD'S MICHELLE RAMOS. THIS GROUP BROUGHT TOGETHER USPS, BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND THE HOA REPRESENTATIVES AND THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, ALSO KYLE BUCKLEY ON MY TEAM WAS HUGELY INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THIS TOGETHER, SO HUGE SHOUT-OUT TO ALL HER TOO. ALL THIS COLLABORATION HAS BEEN INVALUABLE AND THEY HELPED TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE CITY REALLY CAN MAKE AN IMPACT. ONE OF THE MOST PRACTICAL IDEAS THAT CAME FROM THESE DISCUSSIONS WAS BETTER LIGHTING LIGHTING IS ONE OF THE SIMPLEST WAYS TO DETER CRIME. THE PROPOSAL CALLED FOR CPS'S ALL NIGHT SECURITY LIGHTING AS SHE WAS SAYING, ANSL LIGHTING TO HELP INSTALL LIGHTS NEAR CLUSTER MAILBOXES, BUT THE CHALLENGE IS THE COST. FOR SOME HOAS, EVEN A SMALL INSTALLATION OR MONTHLY FEE CAN BE A BARRIER. MANY HOAS ARE ALREADY COST BURDENED WITH HAVING TO REPLACE THEIR DAMAGED CLUSTER MAILBOXES WHICH CAN COST 2500 AND UP FOR JUST ONE BOX. AND MANY NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE UP TO 10 TO 20 BOXES. THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY FIND A WAY TO REDUCE OR OFFSET THOSE COSTS EITHER THROUGH A CITY CONTRIBUTION OR BY WORKING WITH CPS ENERGY TO PROVIDE DISCOUNTED RATES AS A GOODWILL EFFORT.
THIS WOULD BE A TANGIBLE WAY FOR THE CITY AND CPS TO PARTNER WITH NEIGHBORHOODS TO PREVENT CRIME BEFORE IT HAPPENS, NOT JUST TO RESPOND AFTER THE FACT.
I'D ALSO LIKE THE CITY TO WORK WITH OUR FEDERAL COUNTERPARTS TO ADVOCATE FOR USPS TO COVER THE COSTS OF REPLACING THE CLUSTER MAILBOX UNITS, AS WELL AS THE DA'S OFFICE TO PUSH FOR BETTER PROSECUTION OF THESE CRIMES.
BEYOND THAT I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR AMENDING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE UDC, TO REQUIRE LIGHT POLES TO BE PLACED CLOSER TO AREAS WHERE CRIME CAN OCCUR, LIKE CLUSTER MAILBOXES AND OTHER COMMUNITY GATHERING POINTS.
I WANT TO ALSO THANK YOU C AND E FOR ALL OF THEIR EFFORTS AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN. THIS KIND OF PROACTIVE PLANNING CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN KEEPING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SAFE.
EVERYONE DESERVES TO FEEL SECURE ABOUT THEIR MAIL DELIVERY AND IN THEIR COMMUNITY. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK DEPUTY CHIEF RAMOS AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE FOR THEIR TIME, LEADERSHIP, ENGAGEMENT AND COLLABORATION. THANK YOU CHAIR AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE COMMITTEE'S WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND ALSO TOO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN HAVRDA, WITH THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, FOR
COMMENTS TOO. THANK YOU. >> KAUR: ALL RIGHT.
HI. HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU, CHAIR, COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN KAUR. I'M WITH THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY. THANKS TO THE COUNCILWOMAN FOR BRINGING THIS PRESSING AND EXPANSIVE ISSUE THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CITY FORWARD. MAILBOX THEFT COMES UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN AT HOA MEETINGS AND WITH OUR RESIDENTS IN APARTMENT HOMES.
THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN THAT REQUIRES STRONGER ACCOUNTABILITY.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FEARS AROUND THIS TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS IDENTITY THEFT. SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION IS FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL EFFORTS TO PREVENT CLUSTER MAILBOX THEFT AND STANDS READY TO ENSURE THAT SOMETHING AS FUNDAMENTAL AS MAIL DELIVERY IS NO LONGER DISRUPTED.
MAIL THEFT IMPACTS RESIDENTS' SENSE OF SAFETY AND TRUST, ESPECIALLY FOR SENIORS AND WORKING FAMILIES WHO RELY ON TIMELY DELIVERY OF CHECKS, PRESCRIPTIONS AND SENSITIVE DOCUMENTS. APARTMENT COMMUNITIES ARE OFTEN TARGETED SO WE COMMEND THE COUNCILMAN, THE CITY TAKING THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY AND EXPLORING PROACTIVE SOLUTIONS. COLLABORATION BETWEEN PROPERTY MANAGERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE POSTAL SERVICE ARE KEY TO PREVENTING THEFT AND IDENTIFYING OFFENDERS. WE ENCOURAGE COORDINATION WITH DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO IMPROVE MAILBOX DESIGN AND PLACEMENT AS WELL AS LIGHTING FOR BETTER VISIBILITY AND SECURITY. SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AND ALL OUR PARTNERS LOOK FORWARD TO BEING PART OF A LONG-TERM SOLUTION THAT PROTECTS RESIDENTS AND RESTORES CONFIDENCE IN OUR POSTAL SYSTEM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> KAUR: THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
AND I UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE SOME TASK FORCE MEMBERS HERE.
WOULD ANY OF YOU ALL LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START COMMITTEE MEMBER'S DISCUSSION.
>> I JUST WANT TO START BY -- THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
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THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ALDERETE GAVITO FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.BEING NEW ON COUNCIL, THIS IS SOMETHING I HEARD CONSTANTLY ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, AND TO THIS DAY IS PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE THING I HEAR IN MY NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THANK YOU. I'M GLAD THIS IS CONTINUING FORWARD, WE'RE NOT STARTING OVER. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO THANK YOU AND A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION. SO MANY THINGS THAT WE CAN BRING TO OUR RESIDENTSS BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THEY CAN DO AND A LOT GOVERNOR IDEAS WERE IN THAT PRESENTATION. DI HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ON THE ANSL LIGHTING, IS THERE A LIMIT AS TO WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANNUALLY AS FAR AS LIKE ROLLING THIS OUT AND LIKE WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION? I MEAN, I EXPECT THERE WILL BE A FLOOD OF REQUESTS AND LIKE HOW ARE WE MANAGING THE TURNAROUND AND HOW MUCH WE CAN HANDLE AND MANAGE IN
THAT YEAR? >> IF I MAY, COUNCILWOMAN. THIS PROGRAM IS MANAGED BY CPS, AND SO WHOEVER IS INTERESTED CAN SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.
OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WILL PROCESS THE APPLICATION AND WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OR THE RESIDENT IN TERMS OF THE INSTALLATION.
WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS EACH LOCATION IS DIFFERENT. IF THERE'S A METER THAT IS CLOSE BY, PERHAPS THERE'S NO UP FRONT COST BECAUSE THEY CAN CONNECT QUICKLY, BUT IF THERE'S SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT, THAT IS SOME OF THE COSTS THAT THEY BUILD INTO THE MONTHLY BILL, IF YOU WILL. IT WOULD REALLY HAVE TO BE ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS IN TERMS OF HOW QUICKLY THEY CAN RESPOND.
FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM THAT CAN PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THE
HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS. >> SPEARS: OKAY. THAT SORT OF ANSWERS MY NEXT QUESTION. SO THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND THE LIGHTS. IS THAT INCLUDING ANY VANDALISM?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. SO CPS ONCE INSTALLED, THEY TAKE CARE OF THE LIGHT.
LIKE THEY TAKE CARE OF ANY OTHER LIGHTS. WHAT THEY'RE ASKING ARE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR THE RESIDENTS TO PAY FOR THE MONTHLY BILL, IF YOU WILL, OF THE ELECTRICAL USAGE. AND THEY BUILT INTO ANY ADDITIONAL COST THAT WAS INCURRED WHEN THE LIGHT WAS INSTALLED, IF THERE WAS ANY.
THEY DO, I WOULD SAY, ON THEIR WEBSITE, THEY HAVE ON THE APPLICATION YOU, THEY HAVE THE DIFFERENT RATES THAT THEY CHARGE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF LIGHTING.
SO IF THE RESIDENTS WERE INTERESTED THAT IS A VERY GOOD RESOURCE THAT CPS HAS.
>> SPEARS: OKAY. GOOD. AGAIN, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THIS. I HONESTLY CAN'T SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND ALSO ABOUT THE STREET LIGHT PROGRAM I'D LIKE TO ADD IN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR SOLAR AND SOLAR LIGHTS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT AND THE COST IS MORE STABLE.
IT'S ANYWHERE BETWEEN FIVE TO EIGHT K SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD SOLUTION THAT I HOPE CPS IS LOOKING INTO AS WELL. I WANTED TO IT ADD THAT. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO.
>> CASTILLO: IF YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. IN DISTRICT 5 AT THE DARSON RAY APARTMENTS WE HAD AN INSTANCE WHERE SOMEONE HAD A MASTER KEY AND IT WAS A CLUSTER MAILBOX INSIDE THE COMPLEX AND IT WAS DURING A TIME WHEN THE SENIORS WERE HAVING TO REAPPLY FOR THEIR BENEFITS. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPACTFUL. SO GREATFUL TO SEE THERE'S THIS CAMPAIGN TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE THAT WE ARE SEEING ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
IN TERMS OF THE SAPD ARRESTS, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TYPICAL FORM OF EVIDENCE THAT LEADS TO AN ARREST? IS IT VIDEO FOOTAGE, A
LICENSE NUMBER? WHAT DO WE SEE THERE? >> OFF TIMES MOST OF THE ARREST CASES WILL HAPPEN IN PROGRESS. WE HAD ONE A FEW WEEKS AGO, THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL AROUND I BELIEVE IT WAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THEY SAID HEY, THERE'S A GUY WHO IS MESSING WITH THE CLUSTER MAILBOXES.
OFFICERS GOT THERE IN TIME AND THEY WERE ABLE TO APPREHEND THE INDIVIDUAL.
OFTEN TIMES BY THE TIME OFFICERS GET THERE, IT HAPPENS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OFTEN TIMES, SO PEOPLE REALLY DON'T REPORT IT UNTIL THE NEXT MORNING OR AFTER WORK WHEN THEY GO TO THEIR MAILBOX. SO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IS THAT CARS ARE GOING TO BE OUT OF VIEW OF THE CAMERA OR SOMEBODY MAY HAVE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, BUT IT'S ONLY A PHOTO OF AN INDIVIDUAL AND IT'S KIND OF PIX I WILL LATED SO THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN WORK ON. SO A LOT OF THE ARRESTS WILL
BE IN THE IN-PROGRESS CASES. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. I DID HAVE A QUESTION THAT MAY BE RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BUT CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF NEWER DEVELOPMENTS IF A DEVELOPER CHOOSES TO PUT A CLUSTER
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MAILBOX ON AND/OR AN INDIVIDUAL MAILBOX IS IT UP TO CITY CODE OR UP TO THE PREFERENCE OF THE DEVELOPER TO DETERMINE WHICH TYPE OF MAILBOX THEY'RE PLACING INTHE DEVELOPMENT? >> I BELIEVE THAT'S USPS CONTROLS THAT.
AND I BELIEVE THEY WERE AT THE TASK FORCE MEETINGS AND THEY DID DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE LIKE, WHAT IF WE ASK FOR AN INDIVIDUAL MAILBOX? AND THEY SAID THEY'RE KIND OF MOVING AWAY FROM THAT AND THEY'RE MOVING TOWARDS THE
CLUSTER MAILBOXES. >> CASTILLO: UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ.
>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: EXCELLENT INITIATIVE AND GOOD TO SEE YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, FORMER COUNCILWOMAN. ALWAYS HAVE THE TITLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'M WONDERING IS DO YOU HAVE ANY --I HEARD AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE NUMBERS FOR THIS OR IF YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF -- ANY ANECDOTE AT ALL ABOUT USPS WORKERS WHO WERE BEING TARGETS AND ASSAULTED FOR MAILBOX KEYS AND WHATNOT?
>> I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: BUT IT DOES SOUND LIKE SOMETHING YOU'VE HEARD IS HAPPENING?
>> WHEN USPS DID THEIR PRESENTATION AT ONE OF THE TASK FORCE MEETINGS THEY DID TALK ABOUT THAT UNIVERSITY ARROW KEY. THEY TALKED ABOUT IT BEING STOLEN. THEY REALLY DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT ANY CASES SPECIFICALLY WHERE
THEY ASSAULTED THE POSTAL WORKER. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I'VE NOT HEARD IT A TIME, BUT ONE TIME IS TOO MANY, SO I'M WONDERING HOW YOU MIGHT ENGAGE. YOU'RE ALREADY ENGAGED WITH USPS, RIGHT, BUT THE LETTERS CARRIER UNION AND SOME OTHERS DIRECTLY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR EXPERIENCES. IS THE TASK FORCE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MEET?
>> WE JUST HAD THE THREE MEETINGS OVER THE SUMMER AND WE CONCLUDED THOSE MEETINGS.
>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: GOTCHA. IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN ONGOING DISCUSSIONS OR AT THE END OF THIS AND WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS START TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK ON RESULTS AND WHATNOT, IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN BRINGING THAT COMMITTEE BACK TOGETHER I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT WE INCLUDE THE DIRECT WORKER VOICE. SECOND TO THAT WAS -- I LOST IT.
I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN IT DOWN. IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, CHAIR, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THOSE AND THEN I WILL TRY TO REMEMBER WHAT I WAS JUST
ABOUT TO SAY. DAD BRAIN. >> CHAIR: WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING THAT TRIGGERS THE THOUGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND YOUR WORK IN PUTTING THIS TASK FORCE TOGETHER. I NOTICED THAT TWO OF THE FIVE OF THE TOP -- ARE THOSE IN THE BACKUP SLIDE THE LIST OF 10, ARE THEY RANKED IN ORDER OF THE NUMBER OF CALLS
SO YEAH, TWO OF THE TOP 5 ARE IN DISTRICT 1 DOWNTOWN, WHICH I'M SURPRISED WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN MORE CALLS ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, FOR THIS INITIATIVE. I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT CUBE GONZÁLEZ POSTED A PRESS RELEASE TODAY ON SOME OF THIS WORK. IS THERE ANYTHING SIMILAR ABOUT THAT THAT YOU WANTED TO SHARE, MARIA? IS THERE ANYBODY FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GALVAN'S OFFICE HERE? I DON'T THINK SO.
DO YOU WANT TO? >> COUNCILWOMAN MEZA GONZÁLEZ WAS DOING IS A CARRYOVER FROM WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE DID IS THEY'RE USING THEIR CARRYOVER FUNDS TO HELP HOAS IN THAT DISTRICT HELP OFFSET THE COSTS. WHAT WE WERE FOCUSED ON TODAY WAS REALLY CITYWIDE EFFORTS BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING THAT THIS IMPACTS ALL DISTRICTS.
AND ALSO THESE CLUSTER MAILBOXES CAN BE PRETTY PRICEY.
2500 I THINK IS THE MINIMUM. SO AGAIN, WE WANTED MORE CITYWIDE PARTNERSHIP.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
DID YOU NEED ANYTHING? AWESOME. SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. DID WE LOOK AT LIKE A SECURITY CAMERA PROGRAM? LIKE WHEN WE'RE BLOCK WALKING THERE ARE THOSE RINGS THAT SAY YOU ARE BEING VIDEOED. LIKE DID WE LOOK AT OFFERING THOSE PROGRAMS IN
COMBINATION? >> SO WE DID DISCUSS THE CAMERAS.
WE HAD A SOUTHSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY THE NAME OF THE HOA, BUT THEY DID HAVE A -- IT'S A FLOCK SYSTEM. THEY DID HAVE ONE ENTRANCE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE ENTRANCE OUT. THEY JUST RECENTLY PURCHASED THAT FLOCK SYSTEM, BUT IT WAS PRETTY PRICEY. I DON'T REMEMBER THE COST.
25,000? IT WAS $25,000 FOR THAT CAMERA SYSTEM.
AND IT WAS BORN BY THE HOA. >> THAT'S THE FLOCK SYSTEM? >> IT'S THE FLOCK SYSTEM.
>> AND A SIMPLE RING CAMERA ON THE MAILBOXES THAT SENDS THAT MESSAGE OUT WHEN THERE'S MOVEMENT? I FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE?
>> I'M NOT SURE, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO THAT. >> KAUR: I WAS THINKING IF THERE'S A WAY -- BECAUSE WITH CLUSTER MAILBOXES YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN ONE, SO I FEEL LIKE THE RING CAMERAS, WHEN YOU BUY THEM, AT LEAST
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ONLINE ARE NOT THAT EXPENSIVE, AND EVEN LIKE A NOISE COMING OUT OF THEMSCARES FOLKS THAT MIGHT BE APPROACHING. >> SO YOU'RE THINKING, COUNCILWOMAN, A DETERRENT, TO DETER INDIVIDUALS FROM BREAKING INTO.
I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. AS WE'RE DOING THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN. >> KAUR: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND THEN I WANTED -- AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION I HAD WAS YOU MENTIONED THAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY FROM CPS WANTS TO RESPOND, BUT THE ANSL PROGRAM, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE SPLIT UP ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS, YOU SAID THEY HAVE TO SIGN A CONTRACT. IS THAT LIKE THE PROPERTY MANAGER HAS TO SIGN THE CONTRACT? I KNOW MATT IS BEHIND YOU IF
HE WANTS TO QUICKLY ANSWER. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME WITHOUT A BEARD. [LAUGHTER].
IT IS ME. GOOD TO SEE ALL OF Y'ALL TODAY.
YES, IT'S A 36-MONTH CONTRACT WITH WHOEVER OWNS THE METER, RIGHT? SO THAT ELECTRICITY HAS TO BE TIED TO A METER SOMEWHERE.
>> KAUR: AND THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY WOULD OWN THE METER OR WHO OWNS THE
METER FOR -- >> IT CAN BE DIFFERENT. SO IT COULD BE AN HOA MAY OWN THE METER. WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THEMSELVES WHO REQUEST ALL NIGHT SECURITY LIGHTS. IT COULD BE TIED TO THEIR ACCOUNT.
SO IT'S WHOEVER IS THE OWNER OF THE METER. >> KAUR: SO WHOEVER PUTS
THEIR HAND UP AND SAYS I WILL TAKE ON THIS COST. >> AND SOME HOAS HAVE
MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS TOO. >> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR THAT, MATT.
AND THE QUESTION THAT I HAD EARLIER, THE SOLAR LIGHTS, WOULD THEY BE APPLICABLE FOR
THESE AREAS? >> THE COUNCILWOMAN'S OFFICE AND KYLE LOOKED INTO THOSE VERY EARLY ON AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT SOLAR OPTIONS. THEY PRESENT DIFFERENT CHALLENGES AS WELL WITH THOSE, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T PUT A SOLAR LIGHT EVERYWHERE IF IT'S SHADED. AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH SOLAR LIGHTING THAT ARE BORNE UP FRONT RATHER THAN BEING ABLE TO BE BUILT INTO A RATE LIKE YOU DO WITH THOSE ANSLS, WHICH MAKES IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR HOAS.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING INSTEAD OF DOING AN ANSL WHERE YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE METER IF WE COULD PAY FOR A SOLAR LIGHT ON THE FRONT END AND FUND A PORTION OF THAT, IT MIGHT HELP IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE MORE LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T HAVE A VERY ACTIVE HOA THAT CAN JUST SAY YEAH, WE'LL TAKE ON THE
PAYMENT FOR IT. >> WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT.
>> KAUR: THAT WOULD BE GREAT, THANK YOU. AND THEN I THINK THAT I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION ON THIS, WHICH FOR THE CODE AMENDMENTS, WHAT -- I KNOW WE'RE UNDERSTANDING WE'RE JUST GOING UP TO THE 27UDC CODE AMENDMENTS.
WHAT LEGWORK ARE YOU GUYS PLANNING ON DOING BEFORE THAT? I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF A QUESTION TIED TO PCDC. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WILL COME UP THERE FOR WOKE WHO DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE UDC UPDATES LAST TIME,
WHAT IS THAT UPDATE PROCESS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? >> SO OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT WILL DEVELOP A TIMELINE AND THERE'S MANY MEETINGS WITH DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER GROUPS. THEY DO SPECIFICALLY -- STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, DEPENDING ON THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS TO BE PART OF THAT LARGER PROCESS.
SO WE ANTICIPATE, AND I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE TODAY, BUT SOME TIME NEXT YEAR TO COME TO THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND HOW THE COMMUNITY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS. AND THEN ONCE THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THOSE CHANGES CHANGES, THEN ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT AFTER THAT WE WILL BE REQUIRING THE INSTALLATION OF THE LIGHTS WHENEVER A DEVELOPMENT
INSTALLS CLUSTER MAILBOXES. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAD, COUNCIL MEMBERS. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. GO AHEAD.
>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I REMEMBERED. ONE SIMPLE QUESTION, I GUESS, IS -- OR QUESTION IS HOW HAVE -- HOW MIGHT WE ENGAGE -- I'M THINKING ABOUT --A AND RIGHT BEHIND THE CLUSTER MAILBOX ARE TWO DIFFERENT HOUSES THAT FACE TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. THEIR BACKYARDS ARE PERPENDICULAR TO THE MAILBOX. IS THERE SOME WAY -- IN THINK BEING THE CAMERAS AND HOW THAT MIGHT WORK, IS THERE SOME WAY THAT WE MIGHT PROVIDE SUPPORT TO NEIGHBORS WHO AGREE TO PARTICIPATE IN ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND MIGHT BE ABLE TO HOUSE A
SECURITY CAMERA THAT FACES THE MAILBOX? >> WE COULD LOOK AT WAYS TO DO THAT. I BELIEVE FLOCK MAY OFFER THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE, BUT
WE CAN LOOK INTO THOSE. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I'VE ONLY HEARD OF FLOCK IN THE CONTEXT OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS. ARE THEY A COMMERCIAL --
>> THEY ARE A COMMERCIAL. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I WAS LIKE I DON'T THINK I HAVE ONE RESIDENTIALLY, BUT IT'S BECAUSE THE HOAS ARE PURCHASING THEM?
>> RIGHT. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: OKAY, AND THIS IS A SIMPLE
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QUESTION THE. DOES THIS REQUIRE A MOTION? WONDERFUL.LOVE IT. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MOTION TO ACCEPT.
[LAUGHTER]. >> KAUR: I DID HAVE ONE MORE THING.
I NOTICE FROM THE DRAFT PRESENTATION OF WHAT WE SHOWED TODAY YOU GUYS ADDED
SOME TARGETS, WHICH I WAS SUPER EXCITED. >> YES, WE DID.
>> KAUR: I WAS REAL EXCITED TO SEE THAT. ONE MORE QUESTION ON THAT IS SETTING SOME GOALS FOR LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS THAT WE'VE RUN AND JUST SETTING SOME OF THOSE TARGETS.
BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. DEPUTY CHIEF AND MARIA. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3. I GUESS I CAN PASS IT OVER TO THE CLERK TO READ THE
CAPTION IF YOU WANT. >> I CAN ENTER IT REAL QUICK.
SO ITEM NUMBER 3, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE TYPICALLY BRING TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. THIS IS TO TALK ABOUT THE RECOMMENDED APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMPLAINT AND ADVISORY REVIEW BOARD OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR KNOWN AS THE CARB. SO WE HAVE ADDED TO THIS PRESENTATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO NEW MEMBERS IN THIS COMMITTEE, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON WHAT IT IS AND HOW IT'S UTILIZED AND ALSO TO INFORM YOU OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR APPOINTMENT. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT GOES TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR APPOINTMENT, BUT WE BRING IT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEFING AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
SO CHIEF MCMANUS IS GOING TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU, MARIA.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PRESENT THIS TODAY.
I'M GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR COMPLAINT AND ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW PROCESS. I'LL START WITH A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS, HOW THE COMPLAINTS AGAINST OFFICERS ARE HANDLED FROM START TO FINISH.
AND THEN NEXT I'LL TALK ABOUT THE COMPLAINT AND ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW BOARD, ITS COMPOSITION AND HOW IT FUNCTIONS AS AN ADVISORY BODY THAT BRINGS TOGETHER BOTH SWORN OFFICERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND THEN NEXT I'LL INTRODUCE THE CURRENT MEMBERS AND RECOMMENDED APPOINTMENTS FOR THE CIVILIANS SERVING ON THE CARB AND THEN FINALLY WILL END WITH STEPS AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
SO WHEN A COMPLAINT IS MADE AGAINST AN OFFICER IT'S FORWARDED DIRECTLY TO THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS UNIT FOR INVESTIGATION. AI'S ROLE IS DIRECTLY FACT GATHERING AND THEY DON'T MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY DO NOT ISSUE DISCIPLINE.
THEIR FOCUS IS ON ESTABLISHING WHAT OCCURRED THROUGH INTERVIEWS, EVIDENCE, COLLECTION AND DOCUMENTATION. ONCE THE COMPLAINT IS FILED, THE OFFICER INVOLVED IS NOTIFIED OF THE ALLEGATION AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND. UNLIKE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, AI DOES NOT HAVE SUBPOENA AUTHORITY. AFTER THE INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETED, THE CASE MOVES FORWARD TO THE PLANNING AND ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW BOARD OR THE CARB AS WE KNOW IT FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION. THIS ENSURES THAT THE PROCESS HAS MULTIPLE LAYERS OF OVERSIGHT, STARTING WITH 'IMPARTIAL INTERNAL INVESTIGATION AND TRANSITIONING TO A BOARD THAT INCLUDES COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION. ON THE NEXT SLIDE I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THE CASE REACHES THE CARB AND HOW THAT BOARD DETERMINES ITS FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. SO ONCE THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS COMPLETES ITS INVESTIGATION, THE CASE IS REVIEWED BY THE COMPLAINT AND ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW BOARD.
THE BOARD EXAMS THE ENTIRE INVESTIGATIVE FILE AND THEN VOTES ON WHETHER AN ALLEGATION IS FOUNDED, INCONCLUSIVE, JUSTIFIED OR UNFOUNDED.
IF THEY DETERMINE THAT A VIOLATION OCCURRED OR IS SUSTAINED, THE BOARD WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT LEVEL OF DISCIPLINE OR CORRECTIVE ACTION MAY BE APPROPRIATE. THE CARB IS ADVISORY IN NATURE.
THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT BINDING. IT'S FORWARDED TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE OR ME FOR CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THE OVERALL DECISION-MAKING PROCESS. ONCE I REVIEW THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH MY STAFF AND ASSISTANT ATTORNEY, I'LL ISSUE A NOTICE OF CONTEMPLATED DISCIPLINE TO THE OFFICER INVOLVED. THE OFFICER THEN HAS A RIGHT TO MEET WITH ME WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THAT NOTICE. THIS IS KNOWN AS A LAUDERMILL HEARING WHERE THE OFFICER CAN EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED OR OFFER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AFTER THE MEETING DISCIPLINE. THIS PROCESS ENSURES THAT WE UP HOLD BOTH ACCOUNTABILITY AND DUE PROCESS, PROVIDING A FAIR AND TRANSPARENT SYSTEM. ON THE NEXT SLIDE I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE COMPOSITION OF THE CARB, WHO SERVES ON IT AND HOW ITS STRUCTURE
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BALANCES BOTH COMMUNITY AND DEPARTMENTAL PERSPECTIVES. THE CARB HAS BEEN A KEY PART OF OUR ACCOUNTABILITY PROCESS FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.IT WAS CREATED BACK IN 1994 THROUGH THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.
WHICH ESTABLISHED A FORMAL STRUCTURE FOR REVIEWING ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINTS AGAINST OFFICERS. WHEN IT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED, THE BOARD CONSISTED OF SEVEN SWORN OFFICERS AND ONLY TWO CIVILIAN MEMBERS.
OVER TIME THROUGH SUCCESSIVE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING NEGOTIATIONS WE'VE WORKED TO INCREASE CIVILIAN REPRESENTATION TO STRENGTHEN TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC TRUST. IN 2026 CIVILIAN MEMBERSHIP WAS EXPANDED FROM TWO TO FOUR MEMBERS AND THEN IN 2009 IT WAS EXPANDED AGAIN TO SEVEN.
TODAY THE CARB IS MADE UP OF SEVEN SWORN OFFICERS AND SEVEN CIVILIAN MEMBERS CREATING AN EVEN AMOUNT OF [INDISCERNIBLE] AND COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES.
THOSE CHANGES REFLECT A DELIBERATE EFFORT TO MAKE THE PROCESS MORE INCLUSIVE AND ENSURE THAT COMMUNITY VOICES ARE AN EQUAL PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE I'M GOING TO BREAK DOWN HOW THE CARB IS STRUCTURED, WHO SERVES ON IT AND HOW BOTH CIVILIAN AND SWORN MEMBERS ARE SELECTED. THE CARB IS MADE UP OF 14 MEMBERS IN TOTAL, EVENLY SPLIT BETWEEN SEVEN CIVILIANS AND SEVEN SWORN SUSPECTED OFFICERS. THE CIVILIAN MEMBERS ARE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES SELECTED FROM A PANEL OF 14 APPROVED APPLICANTS. THE SILLIAN MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL, SERVE A TWO-YEAR TERM, ROTATING EVERY SIX MONTHS TO ENSURE A VARIETY OF PERSPECTIVES AND CONSISTENT ENGAGEMENT FROM ACROSS THE CITY. ON THE SWORN SIDE THERE ARE ALSO SEVEN SAPD MEMBERS.
REPRESENTING A CROSS-SECTION OF RANKS AND ASSIGNMENTS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
THAT INCLUDES TWO PATROL OFFICERS, ONE DETECTIVE, ONE SERGEANT, ONE LIEUTENANT, ONE CAPTAIN AND ONE DEPUTY CHIEF WHO SERVES AS CHAIR. THE SWORN MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND SERVE SIX-MONTH ROTATIONS.
AND THAT GIVES MULTIPLE OFFICERS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE REVIEW PROCESS. PAIRING CIVILIANS AND SWORN OFFICERS EQUALLY ENSURES THE CARB DECISIONS ARE INFORMED AND BOTH COMMUNITY INSIGHT AND PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, MAINTAINING A FAIR AND BALANCED REVIEW PROCESS.
THE NEXT SLIDE I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH HOW CIVILIAN CARB MEMBERS ARE SELECTED AND WHAT QUALIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED TO SERVE. THE PROCESS OF SELECTING CARB MEMBERS STARTS WITH AN APPLICATION, INTERESTED RESIDENTS SUBMIT AN APPLICATION THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. TO BE ELIGIBLE, APPLICANTS MUST HAVE LIVED IN SAN ANTONIO FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS, BE 25 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER EXPLORATION FORMAL CHARGES OF A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR.
THOSE QUALIFICATIONS ENSURE THE MEMBERS HAVE STRONG COMMUNITY TIES AND HAVE A RECORD THAT REFLECTS INTEGRITY. FROM THERE THE SELECTION AND APPOINTMENT PROCESS INCLUDES INTERVIEWS WITH MYSELF AS CHAIR, THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, THE FIRST CITY ATTORNEY AND THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS CAPTAIN.
FOLLOWING THOSE INTERVIEWS, THE CITY MANAGER MAKES RECOMMENDATION AND I AS CHIEF REVIEW THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROVIDE INPUT, ALONG WITH FEEDBACK FROM THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION. FINAL APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE BY CITY COUNCIL DURING AN A SESSION ENSURING TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AT EVERY STEP. ONCE APPOINTED, MEMBERS ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND CARB TRAINING TO UNDERSTAND THAT INVESTIGATIVE PROCEDURES AND DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES AND THEIR ROLE IN THE OVERSIGHT PROCESS. THE CARB MEETS EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY AND EACH MEMBER IS GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE CASE FILES IN ADVANCE TO PREPARE FOR THE MEANINGFUL, INFORMED DISCUSSION DURING THE MEETINGS.
THIS PROCESS HELPS ENSURE THAT OUR CIVILIAN CARB MEMBERS ARE NOT ONLY QUALIFIED, BUT WELL PREPARED TO MAKE THOUGHTFUL, BALANCED RECOMMENDATIONS.
FINALLY THIS SLIDE LISTS THE CURRENT CIVILIAN MEMBERS SERVING ON THE CARB AND THE NEW MEMBERS BEING RECOMMENDED FOR APPOINTMENT. WE HELD INTERVIEWS ON SEPTEMBER 12TH AND SEPTEMBER 22M THOSE INTERVIEWS FIVE NEW MEMBERS ARE BEING RECOMMENDED TO JOIN THE BOARD. OUR CURRENT MEMBERS REPRESENT A RANGE OF BACKGROUNDS AND COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
JUSTICE MCKENZIE FROM DISTRICT 1 IS A MUSICIAN. LOUISE PRESUS IS ALSO FROM DONE AND HE'S RETIRED. FATIMA AND QUALIFICATION BEN GUERRERO ARE FROM DISTRICT 2 AND THEY'RE BOTH RETIRED. ELIZABETH TILLSON FROM DISTRICT 7 IS A COUNSELOR.
CHARLIE WARD JUNIOR FROM DISTRICT 8 IS RETIRED. ROY LOZANO JUNIOR FROM DISTRICT 9 IS RETIRED AND TAMMY WINE COT FROM DISTRICT 10 IS AN ATTORNEY.
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THE RECOMMENDED MEMBERS BRING A STRONG MIX OF PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE AND REFLECT A BROAD CROSS-SECTION OF OUR CITY. GARY NEAL CITY OF AUSTIN NET FROM DISTRICT 9 IS A CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER. [INDISCERNIBLE] FROM DISTRICT 5 IS A GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS SPECIALIST. ROGER MADJESKI ASK A VENTURE CAPITAL PROFESSIONAL. LILLIAN MORALES FROM DISTRICT 7 IS A SCHEDULER.AND EVELYN CARVAL FROM DISTRICT 1 IS A SENIOR DIRECTOR.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE SELECTED BECAUSE THEY BRING NOT ONLY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO A COMMITMENT TO FAIRNESS, TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THIS SLIDE SHOWS HOW THE COMPOSITION OF CARB REFLECT THE RECOMMENDED -- I'M SORRY, THIS SLIDE SHOWS HOW THE COMPOSITION OF THE CARB REFLECTS THE RECOMMENDED APPOINTMENTS THAT WERE JUST DISCUSSED.
ON THE LEFT YOU'LL SEE THE ETHNIC BREAK DOWN. THE CURRENT RECOMMENDED APPOINTMENTS TOGETHER REFLECT A STRONG REPRESENTATION OF OUR CITY'S DIVERSITY WITH EIGHT HISPANIC MEMBERS, FOUR WHITE MEMBERS AND ONE AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEMBER. ON THE RIGHT THE GENDER BALANCE REMAINS RELATIVELY EVEN, WITH SIX FEMALE MEMBERS AND SEVEN MALE MEMBERS SERVING.
THIS BALANCE UNDERSCORES OUR ONGOING COMMITMENT TO ENSURING THAT THE CARB REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY WE SERVE. IT ALSO DEMONSTRATES THAT OUR APPOINTMENTS AND SELECTION PROCESS IS FOCUSED ON CREATING A BOARD THAT'S FAIR, REPRESENTATIVE AND REFLECTIVE OF OUR CITY'S POPULATION AS A WHOLE.
THE NEXT AND FINAL SLIDE I'LL OUTLINE THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD. TO CONCLUDE, THE NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS IS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO FORWARD THE RECOMMENDED CARB APPOINTMENTS TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THAT VOTE WILL TAKE PLACE DURING A NOVEMBER A SESSION WHICH WILL FINALIZE NEW APPOINTMENTS AND ALLOW THE UPDATED BOARD TO BEGIN ITS NEXT ROTATION. THIS ENSURES A SEAMLESS TRANSITION AND CONTINUED OVERSIGHT WITHOUT INTERRUPTION.
THE CARB REMAINS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF HOW WE BUILD AND SUSTAIN TRUST, BALANCING FAIRNESS FOR OUR OFFICERS WITH ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> KAUR: THANK YOU, CHIEF. DO WE HAVE ANY FOLKS SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION. THIS ITEM DOES REQUIRE AN ACTION. ANYONE LIKE TO GO FIRST? COUNCIL MEMBER CASTILLO.
>> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. REGARDING THE RECOMMENDED MEMBERS, IS THIS THE COMPLETE LIST OF FOLKS WHO SOUGHT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE? IF NOT, HOW MANY APPLICATIONS DID YOU ALL
RECEIVE IN TOTAL? >> WE RECEIVED 16 APPLICATIONS.
I'M LOOKING AT OLGA, CORRECT? WE INTERVIEWED ALL 16 AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THESE INDIVIDUALS. NOW, I WOULD SAY WE SCHEDULE ALL FOR INTERVIEW. THERE WERE SOME THAT DID NOT SHOW FOR THE INTERVIEW.
>> CASTILLO: CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE ADVERTISEMENT PROCESS IN
TERMS OF GAINING INTEREST IN APPLYING FOR THIS ROLE? >> YES, MA'AM.
IT'S -- IT'S ADVERTISED BY THE CITY CLERK ON THE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE, ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. AND THAT'S HOW MOST PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAID THEY
DISCOVERED THE OPENINGS ON THE BOARD. >> I'M SO SORRY, I ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT WE PARTNERED WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ALLOWED US TO GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE ON THEIR NEWSLETTER AS WELL AS SOCIAL MEDIA, SAPD SOCIAL MEDIA, LIKE FACEBOOK, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND WE ALSO TALK ABOUT IT AT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS TO INVITE
INDIVIDUALS TO PARTICIPATE. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I'M LOOKING AT SECTION THREE OF THE CHIEF'S COMPLAINT AND ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW BOARD IN THE CONTRACT. I MAY BE MISSING IT FROM THE LANGUAGE, BUT CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND LIKE IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDED LIST TO COUNCIL WHY THERE ISN'T OPPORTUNITY IN TERMS OF REVIEWING THE SHORT LIST AS A COUNCIL BEFORE
RECOMMENDING THE FOLKS SELECTED FOR THE COMMITTEE? >> I'M SORRY, WHY ISN'T THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO REVIEW THE LIST BEFORE PRESENTING IT TO THE
COUNCIL? >> YES, I'M READING SECTION 3 WITHIN THE CONTRACT FOR PD. AND I MAY BE MISSING IT, BUT CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF REVIEWING THE FULL 16 LIST IN TERMS OF COUNCIL GIVING INPUT IN TERMS OF THOSE APPLICANTS, WHERE THAT IS AND WHY WE MAY NOT BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY
TO GIVE INPUT? >> LIZ IS GOING TO -- >> HI, COUNCILWOMAN.
WITH REGARD TO THE CBA, I SEE THE LANGUAGE YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
THIS HAS BECOME OUR PRACTICE OVER TIME IN AN EFFORT TO BE ABLE TO INTERVIEW AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ALL ABOUT THOSE THAT HAVE APPLIED.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS WHERE THEY DON'T MEET THE
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QUALIFICATIONS AND SO THIS IS AN EFFORT TO BE ABLE TO SYNTHESIZE BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE GET FROM YOU SORT OF THE IMPORTANCE OF ENSURING THAT WE'VE GOT REPRESENTATION ACROSS DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, ACROSS DISTRICTS.SO TAKING THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE ARTICULATED IN TERMS OF THAT REPRESENTATION OF A CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD, AND THEN WE INTERVIEW BASED ON THAT AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DISCUSSION HERE TO THEN ULTIMATELY BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. SO IT IS AN EFFORT TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND TO ENSURE THAT THOSE THAT APPLY MEET THE CRITERIA TO BE ABLE TO COME FORWARD TO YOU FOR
RECOMMENDATION. >> CASTILLO: OKAY. AND PLEASE CORRECT ME.
I MAY BE MISUNDERSTANDING. SO THE CURRENT PRACTICE, IS THAT CODIFIED WITHIN THE CBA OR IS THAT JUST THE CURRENT PRACTICE THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN INITIATING?
>> IT'S BEEN OUR CURRENT PRACTICE FOR THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, WHICH IS
NINE YEARS. >> CASTILLO: YEAH. I THINK WITH THAT, RIGHT, IF IT'S NOT CODIFIED I THINK THERE WOULD BE VALUE IN TERMS OF COUNCIL OR THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS FOR THIS COMMITTEE. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN EXPLORE WHEN WE REVIEW ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS FOR
THIS ROLE. >> AND WE CAN PROVIDE THE APPLICATIONS.
WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. SO WE CAN PROVIDE THEM TO THE COMMUNITY -- I'M SORRY, TO THE COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF ALL THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE
RECEIVED. >> SORRY, GO AHEAD. >> CASTILLO: I WANTED TO THANK, I BELIEVE THAT OLGA DID SHARE SOME OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE
REQUESTED. DID YOU FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN SOME OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES THAT WE ASSIGN, THEY SHOW US -- I AGREE THAT IT'S AN EFFICIENT PROCESS OF YOU GUYS MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS THE BEST FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE LIKE AT LEAST WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR BACKGROUNDS ARE AND HOW YOU GUYS KIND OF JUDGE. SO IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD LOOK AT THEIR APPLICATIONS AND THEN RESUMES, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DO FOR OTHER COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS, IT MIGHT GIVE US A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT INTO WHO WE'RE REVIEWING BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME QUESTION OF WHY DID WE
DECIDE THESE FIVE FOLKS. >> HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> KAUR: DOES THIS ITEM HAVE TO BE APPROVED? WHAT HAPPENS IF WE PUSH THIS TO APPROVAL FOR THE NEXT PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING? WOULD YOU GUYS HAVE A GAP IN THE WORK?
>> YES. SO WE TYPICALLY HAVE 14 INDIVIDUALS THAT WE CAN SELECT SEVEN FROM THAT POOL, AND IT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY IF SOMEBODY -- THEY SERVE FOR SIX MONTHS, AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED. AND IF SOMEBODY HAS AN EMERGENCY OR WE CAN PULL ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, SO IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE NUMBER 8,
WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT NOW SIX VACANCIES. >> BECAUSE PEOPLE BACKED
OFF. >> THE NEXT TERM ENDS IN DECEMBER, SO WE WANT TO START THE PROCESS AGAIN TO BE ABLE TO BRING TO COMMITTEE, TO THIS COMMITTEE HOPEFULLY IN NOVEMBER AND THEN MAKE -- AND BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL IN DECEMBER.
>> KAUR: SO FOR THE ADDITIONAL FOLKS THAT ARE ROLLING OFF.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> KAUR: HOW MANY IS THAT? >> THAT I DON'T REMEMBER.
SO WOULD IT BE OKAY FOR THAT ONE AT LEAST? >> SURE.
>> KAUR: SO IF WE COULD SEE ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT APPLY AND THEN WHAT Y'ALL'S SHORT LIST IS AND MAYBE LIKE AN EXPLANATION EXPLANATION OR WHATEVER RUBRIC THAT YOU GUYS FILL OUT, WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
>> YES, WE CAN DO THAT. >> KAUR: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: YOU KNOW I DO.
I GUESS I'LL START OFF WITH THE QUESTION OF HOW MANY APPLICANTS WERE ELIGIBLE AND QUALIFIED. YOU MENTIONED AS PART OF THE STREAMLINE PROCESS THAT SOME WERE NOT CONSIDERED. HOW MANY WERE OUT OF THE -- I GUESS OF THE FIVE, WHAT
WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT? >> I'VE 16, I'M TRYING TO RECALL WITHOUT MY NOTES IN FRONT OF ME, I KNOW WE HAD ONE THAT DID NOT MEET THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
>> IT MAY HAVE BEEN THREE, BUT WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE EXACT NUMBER.
BUT YES, THERE WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT DONE DIDN'T HAVE THE MINIMUM
REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENCY. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: PERFECT.
I THINK WHAT WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTING IF ALL WERE TO STAY THE SAME, SOME AMOUNT OF WHATEVER YOU COULD PROVIDE IN TERMS OF A SUMMARY OR SYNOPSIS OF WHY WERE THEY SELECTED AND IN TERMS OF THE REST, WHY THEY WERE NOT SELECTED.
I KNOW A BIG PART OF THIS IS WE WANT FOLKS THAT ARE UNPARTIAL AND UNBIASED, SO
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IF THERE'S A REASON THAT FOLKS WERE EITHER EXCLUDED IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT EVIDENCE THERE WAS THAT --D THEY ANSWER AND HOW DID THAT COME OUT?IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE? >> WHAT I MAY OFFER, AND I'LL LOOK AT LIZ FOR FURTHER GUIDANCE, WE CAN DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE
NEXT ROUND AND GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. I GUESS SECOND TO THAT, AND I KNOW A LOT OF THIS IS THE CARB CAN EXIST BECAUSE OF OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.
I WONDER AS PART OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS IS THERE ANYTHING THAT PREVENTS THE MAYOR OR THE CHAIR TO APPOINT A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL TO -- TO PARTICIPATE IN THE INTERVIEWS, EITHER FULL PARTICIPATION OR EVEN JUST AS AN OBSERVER SO THAT SOMEONE MAY BE IN THE ROOM TO HEAR HOW INTERVIEWS GO? WITHOUT, I THINK THOSE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT I JUST ASKED, IT'S HARD FOR US TO GET A FULL PICTURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND IS THE CARB MEMBERSHIP WHAT WE EXPECT?
>> SURE. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN.
LET ME REGROUP WITH LIZ. AND I DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONTRACT IN FRONT OF ME. WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.
>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: SURE. AND LAST PIECE, I GUESS, IS JUST SINCE THE CARB IS AN ITEM TODAY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, I THINK SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GREAT IS AT THE FRONT END IT WOULD BE GREAT IF DURING THE NEXT APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE NEXT PROCESS, AT THE FRONT END OF THAT PERIOD IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US AS A BODY TO DISCUSS OR EVEN A FULL COUNCIL AT A B SESSION TO DISCUSS WHAT ARE OUR EXPECTATIONS SO THAT WHEN THOSE -- WHEN STAFF AND FOLKS ARE MAKING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU HAVE A GUIDANCE. BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CARB AS A COUNCIL OR AS A COMMITTEE. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN. SECOND IS I UNDERSTAND WE ARE GOING TO BE AT SOME POINT FAIRLY SOON DISCUSSING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.
AND THE CARB IS OF GREAT CONCERN TO ME, AND SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON MY MIND SINCE THIS SUMMER, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN JULY THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS ARRESTED FOR DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED. HE WAS ARRESTED AT THE SUBSTATION AND IT WAS A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION FOR I THINK EVERYBODY INVOLVED, INCLUDING THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO HAD TO MAKE THE ARREST.
AND THEY HANDLED THEMSELVES WELL, BUT WHAT STICKS WITH ME AND WHAT I THINK HOLDS IN MY HEART IS A CONCERN THAT I'VE ALWAYS HAD ABOUT THE MAKEUP OF THIS BOARD WITH IT BEING SEVEN POLICE OFFICERS IS HE MENTIONED HE HAD SAID TWO THINGS THAT WERE REALLY UPSETTING. ONE IS HE FAULTED THE ARREST WHO -- HE CALLED THE OFFICERS WHO HAD TO ARREST HIM FING RATS. AND THEN HE SAID DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS IS A FAMILY? AND WHAT THAT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE IS THAT THERE IS CULTURE WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF PROTECTION, WHICH IS FINE AND DANDY.
YOU HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF CAMARADERIE WITHIN ANY PROFESSION, IN ANY OCCUPATION. AND SO I'D EXPECT THAT THERE IS A FEELING OF FAMILY AND THERE'S -- I CAN UNDERSTAND HE WOULD FEEL SOME AMOUNT OF BETRAYAL.
AND I THINK THE OFFICERS DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO, OF COURSE, BUT WHAT IF HE WAS ONE OF THOSE SEVEN ON THE CARB? WHAT IF HE WAS ONE OF THE SEVEN PEOPLE WHO VIEWED HIS ROLE AS NOT UPHOLDING JUSTICE, BUT OF PROTECTING A FRIEND AND A BROTHER OR SISTER. AND THAT'S A QUESTION THAT CAN'T BE ANSWERED AND SO IT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN AN UNBIASED BOARD AND HOW CAN WE DO THAT IN THIS CONTEXT AND WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE MAKEUP OF THE CARB? AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT WE'VE MOVED FROM A WORLD IN WHICH THERE WAS NO CIVILIAN REPRESENTATION AND IT'S MUCH MORE BALANCED NOW, AND I STILL DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S ENOUGH. SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT I'M GOING TO WANT TO HAVE DURING OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT
DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. >> KAUR: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO SIT IN ON THE NEXT INTERVIEWS, COUNCIL MEMBER, WOULD YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT?
>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: YOU KNOW I WOULD. [LAUGHTER].
>> KAUR: OKAY. AND IF WE COULD REQUEST THE ONE THING THAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS FOR THE NEXT ONE, JUST BECAUSE PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONLY TWO HOURS AND I KNOW OUR NOVEMBER AGENDA IS VERY HEAVY, CAN WE INDIVIDUALLY GET A BRIEFING ON THAT INSTEAD OF AN EXACT? IS THAT OKAY WITH Y'ALL?
OR CAN YOU SEND AN UPDATE? >> YEAH, YES, MA'AM. >> KAUR: I ASKED THE ATTORNEY. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND ONE OTHER THING THAT I HAD REQUESTED AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE THIS -- I'M
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SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER SPEARS. >> SPEARS: WELL, I HAD A COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO ASKED ABOUT THE ADVERTISING, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THE MARKETING OF THAT TO ENGAGE MORE CIVILIANS. SO SOME OF MY QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT THAT. IS THERE -- I SUSPECT I KNOW, BUT IS THERE A REASON FOR THE SIX-MONTH ROTATION? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW?
>> SURE. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK IN BEING A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
YOU'VE GOT TO COME IN BEFORE THE HEARINGS AND THEN SPEND YOUR TIME ON EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY IN THE HEARING AND SOMETIMES IT GOES ALL MORNING INTO THE AFTERNOON.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO BURN PEOPLE OUT. WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A REST.
SO THEY'RE KIND OF IN THE BULL PEN FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN WE BRING THEM BACK AND THE OTHER GROUP GOES INTO THE BULL PEN AND THEN WE BRING THEM BACK.
SO ROTATING THEM KEEPS THEM FRESH. >> SPEARS: ON THE HEELS OF THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, THAT ONCE YOU HAVE SERVED, YOU CAN SERVE
AGAIN AS YOU TAKE TIME. >> YES, MA'AM. >> SPEARS: TAKE A BREAK.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> SPEARS: ON AVERAGE, HOW MANY CASES DO YOU THINK THEY
HEAR DURING THEIR TERM? >> ON AN ANNUAL BASIS -- AND I WAS GOING TO -- THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ON THEIR WEBSITE AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS ANNUAL REPORT, SO I'M QUOTING NUMBERS FROM THAT REPORT. ROUGHLY ABOUT 140, 150 CASES
THAT THE CARB REVIEWS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. >> SPEARS: AND THE 16 APPLICATIONS, IS THAT KIND OF THE AVERAGE THAT YOU GET EVERY TIME?
>> IT'S DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT DATA SO WE CAN GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT SOMETIMES WE GET MORE THAN OTHER TIMES.
IT'S VERY HELPFUL WHEN WE -- YOU KNOW, I THINK WE PARTNERED MORE WITH COUNCIL DISTRICTS TO DO THE ADVERTISING TO PROMOTE IT AND GET MORE INDIVIDUALS TO
BE INTERESTED. >> SPEARS: OKAY. WELL, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SIT IN ON INTERVIEWS IF YOU ARE OFFERING THAT. AND YEAH, OUR OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO BE HELPFUL IN ANY WAY TO HELP TO ENGAGE MORE ACTIVE -- HELP FROM THE
CIVILIAN SIDE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> KAUR: COUNCIL MEMBER
CASTILLO? >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
IN TERMS OF THE CARB [INDISCERNIBLE], WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> THE APPLICANTS GO ON A RIDE ALONG, THEY GO ON A RIDE ALONG AND THEY'RE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES THAT THEY GO THROUGH WHERE THEY GO TO READ THE CASES, WHAT THEY'VE GOT TO DO TO READ THE CASES.
SOME OF THE GENERAL MANUAL THINGS THAT THEY'RE INSTRUCTED ON.
>> CASTILLO: WOULD THERE BE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO PARTICIPATE IN OBSERVING THE
WALK-THROUGH OF THAT PROCESS? >> SURE.
>> CASTILLO: WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> KAUR: OKAY. SO COUNCIL MEMBER SPEARS AND RODRIGUEZ TO LIKE TO SIT IN ON OBSERVING AT LEAST THE INTERVIEWS AND COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO ON THE TRAINING.
THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THE THE ONE QUESTION I HAD WAS I WAS CURIOUS HOW OFTEN DO THE CIVILIAN SIDE DIFFER FROM THEIR RECOMMENDATION THAN THE OFFICE -- THE SWORN OFFICER SIDE? DO WE HAVE DATA ON WHEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE -- IS IT MOSTLY ALIGNED OR IS THERE -- IS IT DIVIDED?
>> SO IT'S INTERESTING, COUNCIL MEMBER O MADAM CHAIR.
THE SWORN BOARD OFTEN RECOMMENDS A DISCIPLINE LOWER THAN THE CIVILIAN BOARD DOES AND OFTEN TIMES THE CIVILIAN BOARD RECOMMENDS A DISCIPLINE LOWER THAN THE SWORN BOARD. SO IT'S KIND OF A MIX. YOU'VE GOT SEVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE VOTING. WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONSENSUS, SO --
>> KAUR: LIKE A MAJORITY VOTE? >> WELL, YEAH.
YEAH. AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE A CONSENSUS, WE JUST HAVE A NUMBER OF VOTES WITH DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PENALTY. BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP THE
DISCIPLINARY PROCESS FROM MOVING AHEAD. >> KAUR: BECAUSE IT'S
ADVISORY TO YOU AT THE END OF THE DAY. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> KAUR: SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, IF I'M MAKING UP A REPORT, BUT IF WE COULD SEE LIKE THE -- WHO THE INCIDENT OR A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE CASE, LIKE ONE OR TWO SENTENCES WITH WHAT EACH MEMBER SAID AND THEN WHAT THE DECISION WAS.
IS THAT -- LIZ IS LIKE I DON'T THINK WE >> WELL, WE CAN BRAINSTORM, COUNCILWOMAN. OBVIOUSLY, THE WHOLE -- THE -- I'LL START FROM THE PREMISE
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THAT, UM, THAT DISCIPLINE IS ONLY PUBLIC ONCE IT IS FINAL DISCIPLINE, RIGHT? SO EVERYTHING THAT IS OCCURRING IS NOT PUBLIC. AND THAT'S HOW WE HAVE CREATED -- WITH THE UNION THE ABILITY OF THIS BOARD AND FOR CIVILIANS TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ONIT, TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS PRE-DISCIPLINARY INFORMATION. >> KAUR: BUT THIS IS NOT PUBLIC,
THE CARB MEETINGS ARE NOT PUBLIC, RIGHT? >> NO, NO.
SO ALL OF THAT TO SAY IS THAT WE COULD DO SOME THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS A WAY TO BE ABLE TO INFORM YOU IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT -- WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO LEARN IN A WAY THAT'S
RESPECTFUL OF -- OF THE PROCESS. >> KAUR: MAYBE IT'S NOT BY CASE, BUT MAYBE, LIKE, HIGHER LEVEL SUMMARY, OF, LIKE, X PERCENTAGE OF TIMES THAT THE CHIEF'S RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SIMILAR,
OR, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF DATA THAT JUST SHOWS WHAT -- >> WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT, COUNCILMEMBER. AND JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT AND THE CHIEF MENTIONED THIS, SO YOU HAVE, UM, THE CARB LOOKING AT THE CASE. AND THEN THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CHIEF. AND THEN AS PART OF THE DUE PROCESS FOR THE OFFICER, THEN THERE'S THAT MEETING THAT THE CHIEF WILL HAVE WITH THE OFFICER BEFORE THE FINAL DISCIPLINE IS ISSUED. OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS PART OF THAT PROCESS.
SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT ADDITIONAL CONTEXT THAT AFTER THAT RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM THE CARB AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL STEPS BEFORE THE FINAL DECISION IS MADE.
>> KAUR: MAYBE SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE 100% OF THE TIME, WHICH I'M SURE THAT IS NOT THE CASE, BUT,
YOU KNOW, DECISIONS WENT WITH THE CARB OR ETC.? >> SO, UM, THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION SERVES AS A BASELINE FOR ME. AND I DON'T MAKE THE DECISION ON THE DISCIPLINE IN A VACUUM. IT'S MY STAFF AND IT'S THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, ROSA HERE IS PART OF THAT DECISION-MAKING TEAM. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST LOOK AT THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION, OKAY, YOU GOT X NUMBER OF DAYS SUSPENSION.
THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND EACH CASE, AND EACH RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD MAKES. SOMETIMES THE BOARD DOESN'T GET IT RIGHT, AND -- AND WE WILL ADJUST. BUT -- BUT, UH, THE PROCESS IS VERY, VERY FAIR AND VERY, VERY
THOROUGH. >> KAUR: OKAY. THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. I THINK THAT THOSE ARE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS. ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCILMEMBERS? SO WE DO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE APPROVED FOR THE FIVE MEMBERS
AND WE'LL MODIFY FOR THE NEXT ROUND. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> CLERK: A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEMBERS? >> KAUR: CAN I SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTAIN? OKAY.
MOTION CARRIEDS 2-1-1. DOES IT? >> NO.
>> KAUR: SORRY. >> YOU NEED A MAJORITY FOR IT TO PASS.
>> KAUR: OKAY, THEN WE WILL BRING THIS BACK FOR NOVEMBER? >> YES, MA'AM, I THINK SO.
I'M JUST THINKING THE PROCESS -- BUT I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. >> KAUR: OKAY.
COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO? >> CASTILLO: IN TERMS -- AND YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THIS, THE HOLDOVER PROCESS AND THEN WOULD THERE BE OPPORTUNITY FOR TO US FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDED PROCESS BY THE CHAIR IN TERMS OF REVIEWING THE APPLICATIONS, GIVING INPUT AND DIRECTION,
BEFORE APPROVING? >> SURE, AND I WOULD SAY THAT YOU CAN STILL DO THAT BECAUSE THIS GOES TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. SO WE CAN PROVIDE THE APPLICATIONS, UM, OF ALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE INTERVIEW AND THOSE THAT DIDN'T QUALIFY BEFORE YOU TAKE THE FINAL VOTE IN A SESSION. I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT, UM, FOR MATT IN TERMS OF THE NEXT ROTATION THAT WE HAVE -- THE INDIVIDUALS, THEIR TERMS EXPIRE IN DECEMBER AND DO WE HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS TO CONTINUE TO DO THE CARB MEETINGS AT THIS POINT.
IF WE DELAY THIS -- THIS APPOINTMENT. >> I'M SORRY, I WAS DISTRACTED
BACK THERE. I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR QUESTION. >> MY QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE CARB TO CONTINUE THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS IF WE WERE TO PUT THIS ON HOLD UNTIL THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
AND IT WOULD MEAN THAT IT WOULDN'T BE APPROVED BY THE FULL COUNCIL UNTIL DECEMBER.
SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE NEW MEMBERS POTENTIALLY UNTIL DECEMBER. >> CURRENTLY -- THE CURRENT TERM
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ENDS IN DECEMBER. SO WE'RE OKAY RIGHT NOW. BUT STARTING IN JANUARY WE NEEDTO HAVE NEW MEMBERS READY TO GO BY THEN. >> OKAY, BUT WE CAN BRING IT
BACK IN NOVEMBER. THANK YOU, MATT. >> KAUR: OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER 4 IS A BRIEFING ON THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT'S THREAT AND HAZARD IDENTIFICATION RISK ASSESSMENT PLAN. MARIA, CAN WE HAVE CONTEXT?
>> SO THIS ITEM IS PRESENTED BY OUR OFFICER OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS A THREAD ENHANCER IDENTIFICATION AND RISK ASSESSMENT, AND IT IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE BY FEMA, IT IS SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE'RE APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND ALSO IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TALK TO STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, THOSE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, BEXAR COUNTY AND THE SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES IN TERMS OF ASSESSING OUR READINESS WHEN THERE IS A DISASTER WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THE PD CHIEF BRIAN O'NEILL IS GOING TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION AND CHIEF O'NEILL IS ALSO OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR
FOR THE CITY. CHIEF? >> THANK YOU, GOOD AFTERNOON.
SO I'M HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AS MARIA SAID OUR THREAT AND HAZARD IDENTIFICATION RISK ASSESSMENT. AND OUR STAKEHOLDER PREPAREDNESS REVIEW.
OKAY, SO WHAT IS THE THREAT AND HAZARD IDENTIFICATION RISK ASSESSMENT? EMERGENCYING MANAGEMENT WE REFER TO A SPIA, THE WAY TO GET REGIONAL PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITIES CREATED. SO FOR OUR REGION, THIS IS ALAMO AREA AND THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND THERE'S 13 COUNTIES AND WE MEET AND WE DISCUSS AND IDENTIFIED THE THREATS AND HAZARDS IN OUR AREA. WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY TO OUR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. AND THEN WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR CAPABILITIES TO RESPOND AND TO RECOVER FROM THOSE IMPACTS. SO WE DO THIS EVERY THREE YEARS.
SO THE REASON THAT I'M PRESENTING THIS TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON IS THAT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A THREE-YEAR CYCLE. AND THIS IS A TAILORED PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITY, AND WE ARE ALL HAZARDS AND ALL HAZARDS TYPE DISCIPLINE, AND AT THE LOCAL AND THE REGIONAL LEVEL WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS MOST LIKELY AND THIS IS WHAT THIS IS TO PREPARE FOR.
OKAY, SO ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS THAT WE DO IS THAT WE WANT TO IDENTIFY OUR HAZARDS AND OUR THREATS. OUR NATURAL HAZARDS, WHICH ARE LIKE OUR, YOU KNOW, FLOODING, OR WILDFIRES, EXTREME HEAT, EXTREME COLD, OUR TECHNOLOGICAL HAZARDS LIKE CYBERATTACKS OR TRAIN DERAILMENT. HUMAN-CAUSED HAZARDS LIKE MAYBE A TERRORIST ATTACK.
SO WE TAKE OUR DATA FROM THE REGION, FROM THE 13 COUNTIES, AND WE BRING IT TOGETHER AND WE TAKE OUR DATA FROM HERE AT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND USING THEIR SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX AND OUR GIS SYSTEM. AND OUR AFTER-ACTION REPORTS. AND WE CREATE THESE SCENARIOS AND THESE ARE FIVE SCENARIOS THAT WE CREATED THAT WE VIEW AS FIVE OF OUR MOST LIKELY THREATS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE USE THESE SCENARIOS TO BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER AND TO KIND OF BRING THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS OUR REAL-WORLD CONTEXT TO THE SITUATION, TO SEE WHAT OUR CAPABILITIES ARE AND HOW THESE HAZARDS AND RISKS MAY UNFOLD ACROSS OUR AREA.
SO SOME KEY QUESTION NAS WE ASK OUR PARTNERS WHEN WE'RE MEETING IS WHAT PARTS OF THE CITY WOULD BE AFFECTED? THIS IS TYPICALLY OUR VULNERABLE POPULATION. AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE SCAIGZS AND WHAT ARE THE CASCADING EFFECT? SO IF WE LOSE POWER WHAT ARE THE CASCADING EFFECTS TO THAT, PARTICULARLY PEOPLE WITH VULNERABILITIES OR, SAY, A FLOOD THAT IS COMMON HERE IN SAN ANTONIO DO. WE HAVE NOW CONTAMINATION TO OUR GROUNDWATER, HAVE WE LOST POWER, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO THIS IS A REALISTIC CONTEXT FOR RESPONSE AND RECOVERY. SO, AGAIN, WE LOOK AT THE CAPABILITIES.
SO WE ASK WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO IT AND HOW QUICKLY WE NEED TO DO IT.
SO SPEED IS KEY IN THESE SITUATIONS. WHAT RESOURCES ARE REQUIRED? THESE GUIDE OUR PLANNING AND OUR TRAINING AND THEY'RE BASED ON FEMA'S NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS GOAL, WHICH HAS 32 CORE CAPABILITIES. EIGHT CATEGORIES FOR THOSE 32 CORE CAPABILITIES. THOSE CATEGORIES ARE PREVENTION, THEY ARE PROTECTION, MITIGATION, RESPONSE AND RECOVERY, AND THOSE ARE ALL GROUPED TOGETHER TO FORM OUR CAPABILITY TARGETS.
SO THE SECOND PART OF THIS -- AND THEY'RE TIED TOGETHER -- IS THE STAKEHOLDER PREPAREDNESS REVIEW. SO THIS IS WHERE WE GET TOGETHER AS A REGION, THE 13 COUNTIES BRING IN THEIR FIRE, POLICE EMS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND ALSO THE MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THOSE COUNTIES, AND OUR OWN CITY ENTITIES, OUR VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS, SUCH AS, UM,
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UNITED WAY, TEAM RUBICON, RED CROSS, UM, ANY VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ACTIVATE FOR DISASTERS AND OUR UNIVERSITY. SO WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND WE DO A REVIEW ONCE A YEAR SO THAT SPR IS ONCE A YEAR. SO WE BASE OUR THIRA AND OUR SPR TOGETHER, AND SPR IS ANNUALLY AND THIRA EVERY THREE YEARS. AND WE ASK THESE QUESTIONS, WHAT ARE OUR CAPABILITY? WHAT WOULD WE NEED TOMORROW? WHAT KIND OF GAP DOES WE HAVE? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE LOSE FEMA FUNDING FOR THESE SORT OF CAPABILITIES. SO, AGAIN, THIRA AND SPR IS A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM FROM FEMA, AND IT'S DESIGNED TO LOOK AT OUS A WHOLE.SO IN ESSENCE THIRA TELLS US WHAT COULD HAPPEN AND SPR TELLS US HOW READY WE FOR IT DOES, AND THAT COLLABORATION REALLY MATTERS WITH SPR. AND SO WHY -- WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO SAN ANTONIO WITH THIRA AND SPR? THIRA UNDERPIPS A LOT OF OUR GRANT APPLICATIONS WITH HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS AND YOU HEARD OF OUR SHSP, WHICH ARE THE STATE HOMELAND SECURITY PROGRAM. AND THIS IS WHERE WE GET A LOT OF OUR GRANT APPLICATIONS, THE VALIDITY BEHIND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. SO IN THE PAST WE HAVE SECURED THINGS LIKE TRAINING FOR ALL HAZARDS MANAGEMENT TEAMS BECAUSE THESE ARE EXPERTS WHO GO AROUND THE CITY AND THE REGION WHEN WE HAVE A DISASTER AND REALLY HELP TO MANAGE IT.
AND WE'VE DONE THINGS LIKE OUR PIV I.D. CARDS THAT WE ALL HAVE THAT HELP WITH SECURITY MEASURES. AND CAPABILITY DEVELOPMENT AND PERFORMANCE TRACKING AND STRATEGIC DECISION-MAKING, BOAT IN THE SHORT AND THE LONG TERM. AND SO THESE ARE THE MEETING DATES THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR. EACH OF THESE MEETING DATES KIND OF CORRESPONDS WITH THE CORE CAPABILITIES THAT I TALKED ABOUT, PREVENTION AND MITIGATION AND RESPONSE AND RECOVERY.
THOSE ARE WHAT WE HAVE HELD SO FAR. AND COMING UP IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH A RESPONSE ON OCTOBER 29TH, AND RECOVERY ON NOVEMBER 19TH.
AND ONCE ALL OF THAT IS FINALIZED WE HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST TO TURN THIS INTO THE FEMA PORTAL. THEN WE'LL REPORT BACK TO YOU WITH OUR FINDINGS.
AND I WILL ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS. >> KAUR: AWESOME.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER SPEARS.
>> SPEARS: SO I'M ASSUMING, LIKE THE ACOG IS PART OF THE FUNDING MECHANISM AND THEN BEING PART OF THE REGIONAL -- JUST BEING PART OF THE REGIONAL ASPECT HERE. DOES THIS AFFECT ANY OF THE
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS THAT WE ENTER INTO? >> SO ARE YOU REFERRING TO
MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT? >> SPEARS: UM-HMM. >> SO THAT IS PART OF THE REASON FOR THE ACOG AND THE THREAT ASSESSMENT IS A REGIONAL LOOK AT HOW WE CAN SHARE OUR RESOURCES
WITH EACH OTHER. >> SPEARS: AND THEN OUR -- BASED ON THE ASSESSMENT THAT YOU DO, ARE OUR GENERAL FUND -- GENERAL BUDGET ALLOTMENT SUGGESTED TO ACCOMMODATE THE ASSESSMENT, OR
IS IT JUST GRANT FUNDING? >> I DON'T -- I DON'T -- >> SO IT'S A A COMBINATION OF BOTH, COUNCILWOMAN. WE HAVE -- FOR MANY YEARS WE HAD RECEIVED THE GRANT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BUY EQUIPMENT AND RESOURCES, NOT ONLY TO SAN ANTONIO, BUT ALSO TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, BEXAR COUNTY AS WELL. AND SO THAT EQUIPMENT THAT IS ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT IN NATURE, LIKE THE AMBULANCE, OR THE COMMAND BUS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SHARE -- THOSE GAPS SOMETIMES, RIGHT, ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND AS WE HAVE THOSE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES WE PURCHASE THOSE ITEMS. NOW THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO PURCHASE THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, THEN WE'LL DO THOSE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
>> SPEARS: OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU -- THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I KNOW THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND IN DISTRICT 9, I HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ALL OF THIS ENTAILS AND I'M TRULY GRATEFUL, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE AIRPORT AND A LOT OF WILDFIRE RISKS IN DISTRICT 9 AND FLOODING, WHICH IS STRANGE, BUT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN THIS.
APPRECIATE IT. >> KAUR: THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO?
>> CASTILLO: WITH THIS IN MIND, I'M THINKING OF THE HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH FLOODING. AND WITH THE EXERCISE IN TERMS
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OF PREPARING FOR IMPROVEMENT STRATEGIES TO GUIDE PREPARED MEASURES, I'M THINKING OF SPECIFIC PROJECTS WITHIN DISTRICT 5. FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE UPDATED FEMA FLOOD MAP, I BELIEVE THAT IS SET TO BE ADOPTED ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY BUT PARTICULARLY IN DISTRICT 5, THERE'S EXPANSION OF THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN.AND WHILE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, IS HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW WE CAN ALLEVIATE THAT RISK, OFTENTIMES WHAT I'M HEARING, RIGHT, IS NOT AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE RISK, RIGHT? HOW IF WE FAIL TO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IT'S NOT JUST PROPERTY BUT IT'S LIVES AT RISK BUT ALSO PUTTING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL AT RISK IF THERE'S A NEED FOR A RESCUE, RIGHT? SO I'M CURIOUS IN TERMS OF THAT STAKEHOLDER GROUP IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT HOW, UM, A FIRE CAN PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THESE PUBLIC WORKS MEETINGS IN TERMS OF PROPOSALS FOR DRAINAGE PROJECTS THAT WILL HELP TO ALLEVIATE THAT RISK. BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED IN COMMUNITY MEETINGS IS -- IS JUST THAT THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPACT, RIGHT, AND HOW QUICKLY WATER CAN RISE.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE POTENTIALLY ACQUIRING SOME RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT FOLKS ARE QUICK TO SAY NO BUT NOT UNDERSTANDING THE LONG-TERM RISKS WITH PUTTING PROPERTY LINES AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS ON THE LINE AS WELL.
SO I THINK THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS TO SEE WHETHER WHEN THERE'S A LARGER COMMUNITY MEETING FOR DRAINAGE AND/OR FLOODING, ALLEVIATING FLOODING IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT PD HAS A PRESENCE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO HIGHLIGHT THE
RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH FAILING TO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> KAUR: THANK YOU. SO THE ONLY QUICK QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS ON THE REGIONAL STAKEHOLDER INPUT SESSIONS, ARE THOSE THE ONE THAT ARE BEING USED FOR THE STAKEHOLDER PREPAREDNESS REVIEW OR ARE THOSE TWO SEPARATE THINGS?
>> YOU CAN REPEAT THE QUESTION. >> KAUR: I AM SORRY, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STAKEHOLDER PREPAREDNESS REVIEW AND THEN ON THE SLIDE NINE YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE SOME
STAKEHOLDER INPUT SESSIONS. ARE THOSE TWO SEPARATE THING? >> THEY ARE TOGETHER AND THEY
SYNCHRONIZE TOGETHER. >> KAUR: WHO ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDED?
>> IT'S ACOG AND FIRE AND POLICE AND EMS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOLKS AND LOCAL WITH BEXAR COUNTY AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WE USE VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS, SO OUR FIRE, POLICE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THEN RED CROSS, UNITED WAY, TEXAS DISABILITY RIGHTS, WE HAVE VARIOUS VOADS THAT ARE INVITED. ANYONE REGISTERED UNDER THE VOADS WHICH IS OUR VOLUNTEER
ORGANIZATIONS ACTIVATE INSIDE DISASTERS ARE INVITED. >> KAUR: WHEN YOU COME BACK IN
JANUARY WITH THE PRESENTATION WITH THE RESULTS? >> YES.
>> KAUR: WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH US IN THAT PRESENTATION, EITHER AS SUPPLEMENTAL SLIDES OR PRIOR TO THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT YOU JUST INCLUDED AND ANY CIVILIANS THAT
WERE ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT CONVERSATION? >> YES, MA'AM.
>> KAUR: OKAY. AWESOME. DOES THIS ITEM NEED A MOTION?
>> NO, MA'AM, THIS IS JUST A BRIEFING. >> KAUR: OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBER? AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. OKAY, LAST ITEM UP ON THE AGENDA IS AN -- WHOA -- SORRY.
[LAUGHTER] AN OVERVIEW ON CRIME PREVENTION BY ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, WHICH I'M REALLY EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT. AND WE HAVE AN INTROFOR THIS.
>> YES, COUNCILWOMAN. OUR OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS LEADING THE ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN EFFORT AND THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE INTENTIONALLY STARTED USING IN COORDINATION WITH OUR VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN. SO BRIDGETT WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT WE HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THE WORK THAT SHE'S LEADING THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN COORDINATION WITH THE -- THE INTEGRATED COMMUNITY SAFETY OFFICE AND I SEE HER IN THE BACK AS PART OF THE PROGRAMS THAT SHE WORKING ON. BRIDGEIT?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, BRIDGETT WHITE, THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SO AS MARIA MENTIONED THE DEPARTMENT WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE WITH AN OVERVIEW OF CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, OR CPTED SO MY PRESENTATION TODAY WILL PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON HOW IT CAME ABOUT, WHAT THE, WHAT COLLABORATION HAS LOOKED LIKE AND WHAT PROJECTS WE AS A DIDN'T HAVE UNDERTAKEN RELATED TO CPTED. THE DEPARTMENT CPTED WORK IS PART OF A BIGGER INITIATIVE BEING UNDERTAKEN BY THE CITY. SO IN 2023, THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT BEGAN IMPLEMENTING WHAT IS A THREE-PART STRATEGIC PLAN TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME.
THE VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN COMPLETED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH UTSA CONSISTS OF THREE PHASES.
PHASESPHASE ONE IS A SHORT-TERMT SPOT STRATEGY AND PHASE TWO IS A PROBLEM-ORIENTED STRATEGY.
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AND PHASE THREE IS A LONGER TERM FOCUSED DETERRENCE POLICY. CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN OR CPTED IS A COMPONENT OF PHASE 2 WHICH AS YOU KNOW IS A POLICE LED ADVISORY BOARD DRIVEN MULTI-AGENCY EFFORT TO REDUCE VIOLENCE AT SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.THE STRATEGY LEVERAGES DATA AND RESOURCES FROM A HOST OF STAKEHOLDER DEPARTMENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS. EACH PLACE MUST HAVE ITS OWN UNIQUE PROBLEM-BASED STRATEGY.
AND AS THE EFFORT IS DATA DRIVEN, IT REQUIRES A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, CPTED FITS WELL WITHIN THIS STRATEGY. SO WHAT IS CPTED? IT'S A DESIGN APPROACH INTENDED TO DISCOURAGE CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR WITHIN COMMUNITIES WITH A FOCUS ON THE PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT.
IF YOU HAVE EVER HEARD OF THE BROKEN WINDOW THEORY, THAT IS THE IDEA THAT ONE BROKEN WINDOW IS A NUISANCE AND IF ALLOWED TO EXIST WILL LEAD TO OTHERS AND ULTIMATELY TO THE DECLINE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. BASICALLY, NEGLECTED AND POORLY MAINTAINED PROPERTIES CAN BECOME BREEDING GROUNDS FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. THE MAINTENANCE AND THE IMAGE OF AN AREA CAN HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON WHETHER IT BECOMES A TARGET. AND SO IN ESSENCE CPTED FOCUSES ON HOW COMMUNITIES ARE BUILT AND TO DETER CRIME, FOSTERING COMMUNITY VITALITY AND INCREASING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE AREA. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF KEY PRINCIPLES RELATED TO CPTED AND I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THEM ON THIS SLIDE.
THEY INCLUDE IMPROVING VISIBILITY, GUIDING PEOPLE AS THEY MOVE THROUGH SPACES.
DEFINING THOSE SPACES. MAINTAINING THE ENVIRONMENT. AND ALSO ACTIVATING SPACES.
AS THIS IS A COLLABORATIVEST, THE NUMBER OF PARTNERS IS SIGNIFICANT FROM EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS TO SEVERAL CITY DEPARTMENTS AND, OF COURSE, COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS.
AS MARIA MENTIONED, WE DID HAVE SOME TRAINING WITH MICHIGAN STATE YESTERDAY IN NOVEMBER 2023. A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS WERE ABLE TO TAKE PART IN A CPTED TRAINING AND SOME CERTIFICATION. AND OVER TIME AS WE HAVE NEW PLANNING STAFF COME ON BOARD THEY GO THROUGH CPTED TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION AS WELL. SO THE NEXT TWO SLIDES I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HOW CPTED CONCEPTS WERE APPLIED TO THREE LOCATIONS. AND THE FIRST PROJECT WAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, ROSEMONT AND HIGHLAND PA, AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A HOT SPOT FOR CRIME BY SAPD AND WAS THE PILOT FOR PHASE TWO. IT'S A 252-UNIT MIXED-INCOME MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX BUILT IN 20007. THIS SLIDE CAPTURES SOME OF OUR OBSERVATIONS. LIGHTING WAS ACTUALLY THE MOST PREVALENT ISSUE OBSERVED, BOTH DAMAGED AND NON-EXISTEPT. AND IT WAS INCONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE COMPLEX AND CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR AMBUSH AND THERE WAS INADEQUATE LIGHTING AND CANOPY OBSTRUCTION THAT PREVENTED EMERGENCY SERVICES FROM QUICKLY IDENTIFYING BUILDING NUMBERS TO SURESPOND TO CALLS. AND THERE WERE EXIT SIGNS NOT ILLUMINATED OR SECURED OR IN CONDITIONS OF DISREPAIR. ONE BUILDING IN PARTICULAR WAS COMPLETELY DARK AND HAD ILLICIT ACTIVITY. THERE WERE NO CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE COMPLEX AND THERE WERE WEAK POINTS. SO EASY AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO GET ON THE SITE, ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTHERN PERIMETER OF THE COMPLEX, WHICH ABUTS THE GREENWAY.
AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF MAINTENANCE ISSUES SUCH AS BOARDED UP WINDOWS.
SOME RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED FOR THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, ESPECIALLY IN THE BACK AREAS OF THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND IN KNOB SPACES TO INCREASE VISIBILITY.
INSTALLATION OF CAMERAS. ACTIVATING UNUSED SPACES SUCH AS BY THEIR LAUNDRY ROOM.
AND UPGRADING FACILITIES, AND, OF COURSE, MAINTENANCE OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ITSELF.
THE SITE WAS LOOKED AT LAST YEAR AND AN IMPLEMENTATION IS CURRENTLY ONGOING.
FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMPLEX, THE INTEGRATED COMMUNITY SAFETY OFFICE NOTED THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME SUCCESS WITH IMPLEMENTATION, DUE IN PART TO AN ENGAGED PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.
AND THERE WILL BE CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NEW OWNERS NOW THAT A TRANSITION AND OWNERSHIP RECENTLY OCCURRED. THE SECOND LOCATION WAS ALSO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, IT WAS RESERVED AT PECAN VALLEY. THIS WAS ALSO IDENTIFIED AS A HOT SPOT FOR CRIME BY SAPD.
IT HAS 413 UNITS AND IS PRIVATELY OWNED. THIS COMPLEX HAD A LOT MORE ISSUES TO CONTEND WITH. THE DEPARTMENT HAD NOTED SEVERAL ISSUES AND JUST A FEW ARE SHOWN HERE ON THE SLIDE. TREES GROWING THROUGH STAIRWELLS AND LOW VISIBILITY IN HALLWAYS, UNSTABLE STRUCTURES OR STRUCTURAL SUPPORT AND BROKEN LIGHTING, DEBRIS THROUGH COMMON AREAS AND THE POOL WAS CLOSED AND THAT WAS IN HAZARDOUS CONDITION.
AND IT LACKED FENCING AROUND IT TO PREVENT PEOPLE, INCLUDING KIDS, FROM GETTING INTO THE AREA. AND INADEQUATE LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE COMPLEX.
BROKEN AND/OR BOARDED UP RESIDENTIAL UNITS. NO REGULATION OF ACCESS AT THE
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FRONT GATE. AND MULTIPLE LARGEST INS NEAR THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.PEELING PAINT. DAMAGED SIDING. AND OVERGROWN LANDSCAPING.
AND IN ADDITION TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, THERE WERE ALSO A NUMBER OF TENANT ISSUES THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED. SO THIS ASSESSMENT WAS JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED SO THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS ARE S SHOWN HER. AND THEY INCLUDE LED COMPLAINT LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE COMPLEX, INCLUDING INSTALLING CAMERAS AND USING SHRUBS AND BUSHES TO GUIDE THE PEDESTRIAN FLOW AND ELIMINATE THE HIDING SPOTS. KEEPING PEOPLE AWAY FROM RESTRICTED AREAS, REMOVING TRASH AND DEBRIS FROM COMMON AREAS. REPLACING AC UNITS AND REPLACING BOARDED UP AND BROKEN WINDOWS AND TRIMMING YOUR TREES AND SHRUBS AND REINFORCING THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS.
AND PEST CONTROL SERVICES AND ALSO MORE ACTIVE COMMUNITY SPACES.
AND IN ADDITION TO THESE ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS, THE MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL TEAM HAD THE NEED TO CONNECT TENANTS TO OTHER SERVICES WITH THE ISSUES OBSERVED THROUGHOUT THE COMPLEX AS WELL. AND FINALLY THE NORTHEAST QUARTER AREA.
THIS AREA IS A BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER TWO FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
IT'S A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER AREA THAN A SINGLE LOCATION. AND IT HAS NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED AS SAPD AS A CRIME HOT SPOT. WE LOOKED AT IT BECAUSE WE'RE UPDATING THE REVITALIZATION PLAN AND IT CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN UPDATE. SO THE GOAL WAS TO TAKE THE CPTED CONCEPTS AND APPLY THEM ALONG THE CORRIDOR. GIVEN THE.
A DATA AND GEOSPATIAL ANALYSIS AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND SITE VISITS.
ISSUES IDENTIFIED INCLUDED LIGHTING.
AND VACANT LOTS, BLIGHTED STRUCTURES AND ABANDONED STRUCTURES THAT SERVED AS HIDING SPACES FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. THE NEED TO RESTORE.
BUSINESSES AND THE CITY. FOR BUSINESSES, IT MEANS TAKING A TIERED APPROACH TO IMPROVEMENTS WITH EACH LEVEL BUILDING ON THE PREVIOUS ONE. LEVEL ONE, NO COST BASELINE STANDARDS. LEVEL TWO, NO-COST BASELINE STANDARDS AND TWO, LOW-COST IMPROVEMENTS AND LEVEL THREE, MORE HIGH IMPACT UPGRADES. THE EXAMPLES ON THE SLIDE ARE REGARDING LIGHTING AND MIRRORS AND CAMERAS. OTHER EXAMPLES COULD BE LANDSCAPING AND WAY FINDING AND SIGNAGE. WHERE LEVEL ONE IS JUST KEEPING YOUR SIDEWALKS AND ENTRANCES AND PATHWAYS FREE OF OBSTACLES. AND ALSO PRUNING YOUR TREES OF THE LOWEST BRANCHES OR AT LEAST SIX FEET ABOVE THE GROUND AND MAINTAIN SIGHT LINES AND ILLUMINATE THE CONCEALMENT OPPORTUNITIES. AND FOR THE CITY, RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE THE TARGETED CODE ENFORCEMENT SWEEPS OF HIGH PRIORITY AREAS.
CPTED WORKSHOPS AND FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, AND ALSO POSSIBLY COORDINATING CLEANUP EFFORTS IN THE AREA. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, CHAIR, AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PLANS TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL TEAM WHERE A CPTED ASSESSMENT WILL BE NEEDED AS PART OF THE PROBLEM-ORIENTED POLICING STRATEGY.
AND AS OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES AND WE'LL LOOK AT WAYS TO APPLY THOSE CPTED CONCEPTS AS PART OF OTHER PROJECTS. AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
THAT YOU HAVE. >> KAUR: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBERS FOR DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO.
>> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, BRIDGE SKIT TEAM FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPACT OF THIS WORK AND I BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY COMPONENTS TO HELP US TO DRIVE DOWN THE VIOLENT CRIME THAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THAT CHRIS WHO IS NOW WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAD DONE A GREAT JOB AT EDUCATING, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT 5 RESIDENTS AND SHARING WITH THE COMMUNITY THE IMPACT AND HOW THESE INVESTMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S LIGHTING OR, UM, JUST STREET DESIGN -- HOW WE CAN ALLEVIATE SOME OF THESE PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WE SEE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO JUST GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK OF YOU AND YOUR TEAM. AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT, UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH THIS PLAN, UM, THAT WE CAN WORK COLLABORATIVELY IN TERMS OF WHAT SOME OF -- THE SCOPE CAN LOOK LIKE IN DISTRICT 5 HOT SPOTS. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> KAUR: COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU -- THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR AGENDIZING THIS ITEM.
AND IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A NEW CONCEPT, RIGHT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW TO WORK.
AND I ALSO -- THERE'S JUST A PART OF ME THAT HAS TO SAY THAT AS MUCH AS THIS IS EXCITING, IT
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IS ALSO VINDICATING TO HAVE THIS BE SUCH A SUBJECT THAT WE'RE HAVING AT THIS SCALE.AND I THINK IT'S WORTH HAVING MAYBE EVEN A BROADER CONVERSATION WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL SO THAT FOLK MIGHT UNDERSTAND THE LENS THAT I THINK THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS AS IT RELATES TO ADDRESSING CRIME. AND IT'S, AGAIN, FOCUSING OUR EFFORTS, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO RESPOND TO CRIME, RIGHT? IT'S A NEED THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS THING ABOUT PREVENTION AND LIKE AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION -- SOMETHING -- SOME AMOUNT OF PREVENTION IS WORTH EVEN MORE CURE.
[LAUGHTER] NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. AND THAT WHEN YOU ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES OF CRIME, YOU SEE -- YOU JUST SEE A BRIGHTER COMMUNITY.
AND YOU ALSO SEE LESS OF A NEED FOR PUNITIVE MEASURES AND FOR PUNISHMENT AND FOR -- FOR THE RESPONSE THAT I THINK WE HAVE INVESTED FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND OF COURSE SAPD IS THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE OF OUR BUDGET AND I DON'T SEE A WORLD IN WHICH IT'S NOT, RIGHT? AND THE OPTIMISTIC SIDE VIEWS A WORLD WHERE WE'RE INVESTING THROUGH A ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN ON A MASSIVE SCALE AND INVESTING IN PEOPLE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE THIS ONE POINT IS THAT THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING ABOUT, UM -- ABOUT OUR NON-PROFITS AND OUR DELEGATE AGENCIES REALLY COMES DOWN TO AN INVESTMENT IN PEOPLE. AND WHEN YOU INVEST IN PEOPLE, AND YOU ENSURE THAT ALL OF THEIR BASIC NEEDS ARE MET, WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT THEY HAVE LESS -- THOSE TRAITS AND THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO STEAL TO SURVIVE.
THEY HAVE TO DO THIS THING OR THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO BUT TO PARTICIPATE IN CRIME BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT THEY SEE AROUND THEM. WHEN YOU ADDRESS SOMEONE'S NEEDS, THAT'S THE DEEPEST ROOT CAUSE, THAT'S THE DEEPEST ROOT CAUSE THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS.
AND THIS IS MAYBE A LEVEL ABOVE THAT IN THE HIERARCHY -- OR -- IN THE PYRAMID, WHICH WOULD BE THE ENVIRONMENT. WHICH IS, UM, MANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED.
WHEN YOU CHANGE SOMEONE'S LIVED ENVIRONMENT THAT'S ALSO ADDRESSING CRIME AT ITS ROOT.
AND I'LL USE AN EXAMPLE THAT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, BUT DEFINITELY HAD THAT EFFECT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS CITED NOW, WHICH IS THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH WEST N NEW BRAUNFELS THAT USED TO BE A LOT THAT WOULD -- IT WAS A SITE OF VERY HOT CRIME AND IT WAS A HOT SPOT TODAY, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST LOCATIONS IN THE CITY FOR CRIME BEING REPORTED. AND THEN YOU HAVE GUARD JOE BE GARDENS COME AND BUILD A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL GARDEN, AND THAT OFFERED SECOND CHANCE HIRING, THAT OFFERS REDUCED COSTS FOR PRODUCE AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO LEARN ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND ABOUT HEALTH AND SUSTAINABILITY. AND IT'S BECOME A MUCH SAFER CORRIDOR BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND SO IF WE TAKE THAT SAME APPROACH AND LOOK AT THE WAY THAT WE VIEW OR HOUSING BOND, HOW WE VIEW OUR PARKS, HOW WE VIEW OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS, THAT I THINK WE CAN REALLY, REALLY, REALLY MAKE A DENT IN CRIME. WHICH WE KNOW THAT IS TAKING PLACE IN GREAT NUMBERS AND IN A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PLACES. I'LL BRING UP TWO LOCATIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE OFFICE OF INTEGRATED COMMUNITY SAFETY. ONE IS ADJACENT -- AND YOU GUYS WILL BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THESE PROJECTS. ONE IS ADJACENT TO CANADIAN CAPS COMMUNITY CENTER ON A 12 ACRE PLOT OF LAND WITH TERS IS THAT A FUTURE SITE OF A SENIOR CENTER AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPLEX FOR SENIORS AS WELL. AND NEXT ON MID CROWN ANDIDESSED EISENHOWER THAT WILL HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SENIORS. THESE ARE TWO AREAS THAT RIGHT NOW ARE HISTORICALLY BEEN -- I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE ELEVATED QUITE TO THE LEVEL OF HOT SPOT, RIGHT, BUT THEY ARE AREAS WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF CRIME. AND THE OFFICE OF INTEGRATED COMMUNITY SAFETY AND SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST AND ALL OF THE PARTNERS HAVE BEEN REALLY BEEN ENGAGED IN THE PLANNING OF THESE PROJECTS. AND I THINK THAT FOR THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE -- WE'RE GOING TO SEE REALLY TREMENDOUS OUTCOMES AND CRIME PREVENTION THROUGHOUT ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN APPLY THIS BEYOND THE PLANN PLANNING EFFORD TO EACH OF OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT ENGAGE IN DEVELOPMENT IN THAT WAY.
SO ALL OF THAT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN A B SESSION AND I'D BE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEND IT AS SUCH IF NEEDED.
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>> KAUR WE DON'T NEED A MOTION AT THIS POINT. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILWOMAN SPEARS.
>> SPEARS: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THINK THAT THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PROGRAM. AND KEY TO A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO CRIME PREVENTION AS WELL. I JUST NEEDED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION TOO.
WHAT ARE WE INVESTING IN THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW? >> IN TERMS OF CPTED ITSELF?
>> SPEARS: UM-HMM. >> SO THE PROGRAM -- WHEN WE DO AN ANALYSIS IT'S DONE THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BUT IN TERMS OF ANYTHING RELATED TO THE HOT SPOTS WE WORK WITH SPAD AND THE NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE ON THE SCREEN. SO IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL EFFORT -- THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS, WE USE OUR EXISTING RESOURCES AND THERE WAS A -- A BUDGET THAT WE HAD FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY AND THAT WE PURCHASED SOME ITEMS FOR ONE OF THE FIRST -- FOR THE ROSEMONT PROPERTY. BUT GOING FIRST AS WE IDENTIFY THESE ITEMS WE ARE MAKING THOSE PART OF OUR -- THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET BUYING THOSE THINGS. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULDN'T AFFORD WITHIN OUR BUDGETS AND WE'LL MAKE THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.
>> SPEARS: SO ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS ENGAGED IN THIS? AND TO WHAT EXTENT? I MEAN, I SAW WITH THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR A LOT OF THAT, BUT MAYBE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH -- THE
PECAN VALLEY PROJECT? >> THAT ONE WAS ACTUALLY JUST COMPLETED.
SO WE HAVE? SOME DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT.
SO SIMILAR TO ROSEMONT WHERE WE HAD -- WE HAD I CSO THAT DID SURVEYS AND A FOLLOW-UP SURVEY, THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WAS VERY ENGAGED.
I BELIEVE THAT A SUCCESS WITH IMPLEMENTATION BECAUSE THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WAS ENGAGED, BUT THIS ONE -- PECAN VALLEY WAS JUST COMPLETED SO WE'RE PUTTING THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS -- SO HOPEFULLY WITH, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS COMPLETED THERE WOULD BE CONTINUED
IMPLEMENTATION. >> MARIA VILLAGÓMEZ FROM ICSO. AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ROSEMONT AND THE RESERVE. SO ROSEMONT WAS A PRIVATE/PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP WITH SAHU AT THAT TIME AND THERE'S FUNDING FLOWING THROUGH THE CITY AND TO THE ORGANIZATION THAT COULD BE USED TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT, JUST THROUGH THAT FORMAL CONTRACT THAT WE ALREADY HAD IN PLACE. HOWEVER, THE RESERVES ARE PRIVATE. SO TO CONSIDER IS PLANNING WILL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ON BEST PRACTICE AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE, BUT SINCE IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS IF AND HOW THE CITY IN ANY WAY INTERVENES FINANCIALLY
FOR HIM TO IMPROVE HIS PROPERTY PHYSICALLY. >> SPEARS: OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK THAT IT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT -- IT'S GREAT IN REGARDS TO CRIME, BUT IT'S ALSO MAKING THE STRUCTURES SAFER. I CAN JUST SEE SO MANY BENEFITS TO IT. SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE COULD EXPAND IT MORE. BECAUSE, I MEAN, I AGREE -- PREVENTION IS ALWAYS BETTER. SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
>> KAUR: THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
I ACTUALLY WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT CPTED WAS EVEN A UNIVERSAL THING, AND SO I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE WERE TAKING IT ON FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT WITH OUR HOT SPOT POLICING. SO I THINK IS A GREAT STRATEGY, BUT WHAT COUNCILWOMAN SPEARS BROUGHT UP IS A CONCERN, RIGHT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE HOT SPOTS IN DISTRICT 1 THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. WE CAN BARELY GET THEM TO TAKE OUT THEIR TRASH. SO, UM, I -- AND THEY'RE ON THE PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTION LIST AND WE JUST KEEP CITING THEM AND THEY SLOWLY RESOLVE. SO I'M -- I'M WONDERING, EVEN IF WE DO IDENTIFY THESE AMAZING PHYSICAL BENEFITS THAT COULD BE -- OR PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD HELP WITH CRIME PREVENTION, HOW DO WE CONVINCE THESE DEVELOPERS FROM A LOT OF WHICH ARE NOAA'S, NATIONALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING MULTI-FAMILIES TO IMPROVE THEIR SITUATION? SO THIS IS JUST A BIG QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD CONSIDER FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE PUTTING DOLLARS BEHIND THIS.
I MEAN, THERE'S A PROGRAM WHERE WE SAY IF WE WILL HELP YOU TO IMPROVE AT LEAST THE OUTSIDE EXTERNAL COMPONENTS AND THEN REQUIRE YOU GUYS TO KEEP 20% OF YOUR UNITS AT THE CURRENT RATES.
I DON'T KNOW, I'M MAKING THAT UP. BUT SOME KIND OF
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GIVE-AND-TAKE -- SINCE I THINK AT LEAST IT WAS IN D1, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT Y'ALL'S, BUT LEAST THEY'RE NATURALLY OCCURRING AND AFFORDABLE AND THE PUSH BACK FROM FOLKS WHAT IF WE TAKE IT OVER AND PUT A BUNCH OF MONEY INTO IT WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE RENTS TO MAKE UP FOR IT.SO IF WE SAID, HEY, WE'LL GIVE THIS FUNDING TO YOU -- SO I'D LIKE US TO EXPLORE THAT TO SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. MAYBE WITH -- WE ALWAYS COME UP WITH IDEAS FOR THE HOUSING BOND DOLLARS AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH LEFT. I THINK THAT -- BUT, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THAT MONEY IF THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED.
AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO ASK WAS, UM, COUNCILMEMBER BROUGHT UP THE GARDOPIA SPOT AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE ARE FOR ACROSS DEPARTMENTAL COLLABORATION. BUT EVEN -- AND I KNOW THAT THIS CAME THROUGH THE HOT SPOT PROGRAM. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE, LIKE, OVERALL ACROSS THE CITY, UM, WHERE DO WE THINK THAT THIS COULD BE HELPFUL. WHETHER IT'S FOR PARKS AND COMMUNITY CENTERS. BECAUSE WE GET THIS A LOT FOR PARKS, WHERE THE MORE -- AND IT'S NOT JUST, LIKE, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING AND THERE'S ACTIVATION AND WHEN WE ACTIVATE IT HELPS TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AS WELL. SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INVEST IN TO HELP TO SUPPORT, UM -- TO CREATE CPTED? LIKE, IS THERE A PLAN THAT WE COULD DO FOR OUR DRAINAGE DITCHES THAT WOULD CREATE MORE SAFE, SUPPORTIVE, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENT? I DON'T KNOW. WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THE CITY WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW. GO AHEAD, MARIA.
>> I ACTUALLY HAD A RESPONSE TO A QUESTION FROM --
AND THE DISCUSSION IS -- >> KAUR: OKAY, OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD.
SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE IN THE PROGRAM, OR ARE THESE THE ONLY ONE?
>> I SEE OTHER PROPERTIES... >> SPECIFICALLY WITH THE VIOLENT RATE PLAN, OR VRPD, NO, THERE'S JUST THESE TWO PROPERTIES AT THE TIME BUT PLANNING DOES APPLY CPTED TO OTHER LOCATIONS SO I
CAN'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY. >> THE NORTHEAST QUARTER BECAUSE WE ARE UPDATING THE REVITALIZATION PLAN. SO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT BUSINESS OWNERS.
SO THE REASON THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THIS PARTICULAR APPROACH WITH THE TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES IS THAT IT'S THE LARGER AREA AND IT'S FOLDING INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE FOLDING INTO THE PLAN TO REALLY LOOK AT SAFETY AND SECURITY AROUND COMMERCIAL AREAS. AND SO WE WANTED -- IT'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH, SO WE NEEDED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WHO FREQUENT THOSE AREAS. SO THAT FEEDS INTO A PLANNING PROCESS.
>> SORRY, SOMETHING CAME TO MIND. WITH SAPD PERSONNEL CONDUCTED A WALK THROUGH OF THE CENTRAL LIBRARY STAFF -- MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO.
AND I GAVE THEM SPECIFIC CPTED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THEIR INTERIOR.
THERE'S CURRENTLY A USTA STUDY GOING ON AT CENTRAL LIBRARY TO STUDY SAFETY AND HOW TO IMPROVE, UM, THE QUALITY AT CENTRAL LIBRARIES IT. COMES TO SOCIAL SERVICES.
AND PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT UTSA WILL BE PROVIDING WILL INCLUDE? CPTED PRINCIPLES BECAUSE THE INTERIOR ENVIRONMENT OF THE CENTRAL LIBRARY, IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN THERE, IT'S LIKE A MUSEUM -- AN ART MUSEUM. IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL.
BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF IT THAT ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO SAFETY OR THE FEELING OF SAFETY, WHICH IS A VERY BIG KEY OF CPTED IS THAT PERCEPTION AND THAT FEELING.
SO CENTRAL LIBRARY JUST CAME TO MIND. AND I KIND -- IT'S NOT IN VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN AND IT'S A SEPARATE PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT THAT I'M ON AND IT'S ONE
OF THE PRINCIPLES APPLIED TO IMPROVE SAFETY. >> KAUR: CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE SO WE KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU RECOMMENDED FOR CENTRAL LIBRARY, BECAUSE I KNOW
THAT A LOT OF US ARE FAMILIAR. >> ABSOLUTE. ABSOLUTELY.
THE PLACEMENT OF PODIUMS AND THE CONVEX MIRRORS TO SEE AROUND CORNERS AND SIGNAGE AROUND THE BUILDING SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT NUMBER TO CALL WHEN THEY NEED HELP FROM STAFF, IF THEY'RE JUST FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO CALL191. AND SIGNAGE SHOWS PATHWAYS AND HOW TO GET AROUND BECAUSE IT'S A BIT OF A MAZE ON SOME OF THE FLOORS AND IT'S VERY DARK ON SOME OF THE FLOORS AND IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS. SOME OF THOSE BOOKSHELVES, THEY ARE QUITE HIGH AND THERE'S NO LINE OF SIGHT SO THE WAY THAT THE ORIENTATION OF THE BOOKSHELVES ARE AND THE STAFF CAN'T SEE IF THEY ARE PERPENDICULAR VERSUS PARALLEL FROM WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED AND I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE CENTRAL LIBRARY, ACTUALLY.
AND THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE PASSIVE AREAS THERE AND THAT'S A KEY FEATURE OF CPTED.
I CAN TRY TO DIG INTO MY NOTES FROM A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID THAT, IF YOU WANT TO SEE MORE
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DETAILS. >> KAUR: I APPRECIATE THAT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY WENT THROUGH A WHOLE OTHER PILOT PROGRAM THERE OVER THE LAST YEAR.
SO I AGAIN THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I FEEL THAT, MARIA, YOU GET ALL OF THE COOL INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS DOING SUCH GREAT WORK IN CRIME PREVENTION SO YOU'RE IN ALL OF THE INTERESTING THINGS AND I KNOW THAT GOOD NEIGHBOR IS COMING UP FOR A BRIEFING SOON SO WE'LL SEE YOU THEN AS WELL.
COUNCILWOMAN SPEARS, SURE. >> SPEARS: AND LISTENING IN TO YOU TALK, I'M CURIOUS -- ARE YOA LOT OF IDEAS. DO YOU FEEL PREPARED WITH THE FRAMEWORK IN A WAY TO SCALE OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GO OUT AND IS THERE ANOTHER, LIKE, STUDY CITY, OR GO BACK TO
MICHIGAN STATE? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? >> FOR THE CITY OVERALL TO APPLY CPTED? THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB OF CONDUCTING THE ASSESSMENTS AND PROVIDING PRODUCTS TO GIVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. AND THEY'RE WORKING ON A WAY TO MAKE A PUBLIC DOCUMENT WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE STAFF'S CAPACITY TO ROLL OUT CPTED ASSESSMENTS BEYOND POPD AND THOSE PARTICULAR SITES. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IN MORE DEPTH. I THINK THAT A SMALL BUT MIGHTY DEPARTMENT LIKE MINE -- I LOVE THEIR PRODUCTS AND CPTED IS ONE OF MANY TOOLS IN THE CRIMINOLOGIST TOOL BELT.
SO WE DO CPTED AND OTHER THINGS. IT'S NEVER CPTED ALONE IT. NEEDS TO BE COMBINED WITH OTHER BEST PRACTICES. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A CORE FUNDAMENTAL RECOMMENDATION FOR ANY LOCATION, WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY OR QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND SO I'D ALWAYS LOVE FOR THEM TO BE PART OF MY PROJECTS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO THESE LOCATIONS,
YES. >> SPEARS: OKAY. >> KAUR: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
THAT BRIEFING. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: SORRY, ONE QUESTION FOR MARIA.
SORRY, I KNOW THAT YOU JUST WALKED -- [LAUGHTER] SO I'M WONDERING AND OF COURSE THIS IS A VERY FAST-PACED COUNCIL AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO SPEED ALONG ANY PROCESS WE LOVE TO DO SO TO GET TO THE END RESULT, RIGHT? I DO NOTICE THAT THE PHASE TWO AND THREE OF THE PLAN HAVE BEEN FAIRLY SLOW ROLLING AND I'M WONDERING IS THAT DUE TO, UM, COST -- LIKE, FUNDING LIMITATIONS? WHAT IS THE REASON THAT -- THAT WE ARE REALLY WANTING TO STOP AND ANALYZE ONE OR TWO
PROPERTIES AT A TIME? OR WHAT IS THE -- >> PART OF IT IS THE INITIAL FRAMEWORK CALLED FOR IN INTENSE SIX-MONTH PERIOD OF WORK AT THE POPB SITE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID AT ROSEMONT IS THAT WE FOCUSED ON IT SIX MONTHS INTENSELY AND THEN WE KIND OF MONITOR THINGS AND KEEP THINGS GOING, JUST NOT AT THE SAME RATE.
AND NOW WE'RE KIND OF EVALUATING. AND WITH THE TRANSITION OF OWNERSHIP THERE, I WANT TO NOT LET GO OF IT YET, EVEN THOUGH THINGS HAVE IMPROVED.
I WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT CONVERSATION, THAT MOMENTUM WITH THE NEW OWNER, SO THEY KNOW OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAYBE CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT THEM WHEN THE PREVIOUS OWNERS COULDN'T.
AND SO WE'RE FOLLOWING THE TEMPLATE THAT WAS LAID OUT FOR POPB.
AND WHEN IT GOES TO FOCUS DETERRENTS AND IT'S GATHERING OF MY CARROTS AND FARMING MY CARROTS, AND THAT'S RESEARCH INTENSIVE AND WITH THE CHANGE IN THE GRANT ENVIRONMENT, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO USE TO CREATE THOSE RESOURCES AND SECURE THEM -- WE HAD TO KIND OF SHIFT PACE THERE. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO CAPITALIZE ON AGENCIES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THOSE. AND WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT PACE OF DELEGATED AGENCY RIGHT NOW.
SO, YES, IT'S SLOW GOING BUT THESE ARE THE MID AND THE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS AND THEY'RE NOT AS FAST AS THE SHORT-TERM HOT SPOT SOLUTIONS. SO I VIEW POPB AS MORE ENDURING EFFORTS THAT WE'LL HAVE HIGH TOUCH WITH EITHER INDIVIDUALS THROUGH PHASE 3, AND INDIVIDUALS AND LOCATIONS STILL IN POPB PHASE TWO. SOY WE NEED TO IDENTIFY OUR DEFINITION FOR DONE. BECAUSE WE'LL NEVER SEE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX GO TO ZERO CALLS FOR SERVICE, OR ELIMINATE EVERY SINGLE ISSUE. SO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHEN WE ARE COMFORTABLE LETTING THE PROPERTY STAFF AND THE OWNERS TAKE IT AND TO CONTINUE ON WITH
THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE RECOMMEND. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: FOR SURE.
I GUESS THAT -- CAN YOU REMIND ME HOW MANY -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY HOT SPOTS -- YEAH, HOW MANY HOT SPOTS OR LOCATIONS, IF WE HAD ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF RESOURCES AND ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF STAFF AND ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF FUNDING, HOW MANY HOT SPOTS WOULD WE HAVE TO ADDRESS WITH A PHASE TWO AND A
PHASE THREE? >> UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BECAUSE UTSA ONLY GIVES US FIVE.
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OUR FIVE WORST THAT IS STAYING CHRONICALLY VIOLENT DESPITE HOT SPOT TREATMENT.SO I HAVE NEVER ASKED THEM WOULD YOU HAVE 10 OR WOULD YOU HAVE A DOZEN? BECAUSE THEY ONLY GIVE US THEIR TOP FIVE AND THEN THE WORKING GROUP DECIDES WHICH OF THOSE FIVE TO CHOOSE FROM. BUT I WILL MENTION THAT THERE'S BEEN JUST SOME OF THE PERSISTENT SAME ONE OR TWO, AND SO IT'S NOT A DEEP ROSTER. AND, AGAIN, WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE FOR QUALIFYING FOR POPB.
AND SO AS MAYBE THE TEMPERATURE GOES DOWN, THE THRESHOLD FOR BEING CHRONICALLY VIOLENT MIGHT ALSO LOWER WITH IT. AND SO WE CAN MOVE THAT TO DEFINE WHAT'S THE CHRONICALLY VIOLENT PLACE THAT WE WANT TO ENGAGE. DOES IT H HAVE TO BE THIS RATE R
LOWER THAT RATE? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I'D BE REALLY INTERESTED IN THAT DISCUSSION AND WHAT -- AND TO THE POINT THAT YOU COME TO AS A RESULT OF THAT DISCUSSION.
AND I'M WONDERING -- BECAUSE I GUESS THAT THE CRUX OF -- THE MAIN PART OF MY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SPEND SIX MONTHS ON ONE LOCATION AT A TIME AND WE CAN DO THAT IN ORDER AND WE CAN MAINTAIN -- YOU KNOW, WELL, BEYOND THAT SIX MONTHS WE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THOSE PROPERTIES. SO WE'RE ADDING THEM ON AND ADJUSTING RESOURCES AS NEEDED.
BUT HOW DO WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN DO FIVE, AND IT'S ALL FIVE AT A TIME.
AND IS THAT -- I AM INTERESTED IN THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL. BECAUSE IT GOES BEYOND -- I AM HAPPY TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE AS DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDS AND DELEGATE AGENCIES TO ADDRESS THESE AREAS BUT SOME OF THAT IS ALSO INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL.
SO WHERE DO WE GET THAT FROM? AND HOW DO WE MAKE THIS A PRIORITY, I THINK IS MY --
>> WHAT I'M THINKING COUNCILMAN IS, UM, THAT WORKING WITH THE CHAIR MAYBE WE CAN BRING AN UPDATE ON THE CRIME PRE PREVENTN PLAN SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW THE STATISTICS AGAIN IN TERMS OF THE HOT SPOT POLICING PHASE ONE. AND THEN HOW WE SELECT PHASE TWO.
HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE IN THE UNIVERSE WHICH I DON'T THINK THAT IS MORE THAN FIVE OR 10, BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY CHANGING THOSE HOT SPOTS. AND THEN THOSE ARE THE RECURRING ONES THAT COME UP THAT WE HAVEN'T MADE SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY BECOME PART OF PHASE TWO. BUT MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT.
A DEEP DIVE TO LOOK INTO YOUR QUESTIONS IN THAT CONTEXT AND BRING SOME OF THOSE POTENTIAL SCENARIOS ON HOW WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE LOCATIONS AT ONCE, RATHER THAN ONE AT A TIME.
>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: FOR SURE. ESPECIALLY FUNDING AND FINANCING OPTIONS.
>> YES, YEAH, WE CAN EVALUATE THAT AS WELL. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: PURCHASE,
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> KAUR: THE LAST ANSWER TO THE
QUESTION THAT WE HAD. >> IN TERMS OF THE CARB AND THE CURRENT PROCESS FOR DOING THE INTERVIEWS AND BRINGING THOSE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT ON ARTICLE 29. IT MENTIONS THAT, UM, THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE CARB SHALL BE SELECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FROM A LIST OF NAMES PROVIDED BY THE CITY MANAGER. AND PRIOR TO PROVIDING THE NAMES TO THE COUNCIL THE CITY MANAGER SHALL SOLICIT APPLICATIONS, UM, RECRUIT INDIVIDUALS THAT MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT TO RECOMMEND EACH OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO APPLIED.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CHIEF OF POLICE DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT TO RECOMMEND EACH OF THE INDIVIDUALS. SO THAT'S A PROCESS, THAT IS WHY WE DO THE INTERVIEWS AND THEN BRING YOU A LIST OF INDIVIDUALS. BUT HAPPY TO -- TO, UM, DO YOU KNOW, TO BRING THIS BACK IN NOVEMBER AND TO GET YOU ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS IN TERMS OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS APPLIED.
BUT THAT'S A PROCESS OUTLINED IN.
THANK YOU. >> KAUR: ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SIT IN ON THE INTERVIEWS, BUT WE'LL AT LEAST GET -- [LAUGHTER] OKAY, WE'LL GET YOU A FOLLOW-UP ON YOUR RESPONSE ON THAT.
ALL RIGHT, THE TIME IS NOW 4:09 P.M. AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU ALL.
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