Nov 12, 2025 City Council B Session

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THE TIME IS 2:02 P.M. ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 2025.

THE B SESSION IS CALLED TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL ROLL.

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>> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. SO WE'VE GOT -- IT'S ONLY TWO ITEMS, BUT THEY WILL BE PRETTY MEATY TOPICS. ONE IS THE PRE-SOLICITATION BRIEFING FOR RENTAL HOUSING PRODUCTION, AS WELL AS AN UPDATE ON THE READY TO WORK PROGRAM. THE FIRST ONE OBVIOUSLY IS ALL ABOUT HOW WE ARE CONTINUING TO INCENTIVIZE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT KINDS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND HOW WE THINK ABOUT THAT IN CERTAIN PARTS FOR WHICH WE ARE LOOKING TO REVITALIZE, AND CERTAINLY THAT REQUIRES AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEN THE READY TO WORK PROGRAM, THERE IS A -- THE NEED TO APPROVE THE BOARD TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP THERE. BEFORE WE DID THAT, THOUGH, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COUNCIL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW KIND OF WHERE THAT PROGRAM STANDS. CERTAINLY IT STILL IS SET TO SUNSET BY 2030, BUT THERE ARE MANY, MANY RESOURCES STILL LEFT IN THAT PROGRAM AND HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT IT ALIGNS WITH THE OBJECTIVES THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS IN MIND BOTH IN TERMS OF EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS. SO ERIK, OVER TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO OUR FIRST ITEM AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED IS A PRE-SOLICITATION BRIEFING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING GAP FUNDING, AND SPECIFICALLY TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. AND LET ME PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT FOR THE COUNCIL. THE VOTERS APPROVED $150 MILLION IN HOUSING BONDS IN 2022. APPROXIMATELY 129 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED BY THE COUNCIL THROUGH PREVIOUS SOLICITATIONS TO PRODUCE OR PRESERVE ABOUT 5,000 HOMES AND HOUSEHOLDS THROUGH MULTIPLE FUNDING ROUNDS. TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS REALLY Y'ALL'S OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF WEIGH IN ON THAT SOLICITATION PROCESS AND TAKE FEEDBACK FROM YOU.

THERE ARE TWO RFPS THAT VERONICA WILL COVER. ONE IS FOR RENTAL HOUSING PRODUCTION REHAB, PRESERVATION AND ACQUISITION, AND THE SECOND ONE IS HOME OWNERSHIP. AND WE WILL -- VERONICA WILL WALK THROUGH BOTH THOSE PROGRAMS, INCLUDING THE CRITERIA THAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST.

SOME OF IT HAS BEEN ADJUSTED BASED ON RECENT COUNCIL CONVERSATION, AND I SUSPECT IS AS WE GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL WE WILL FURTHER ADJUST THE SOLICITATION SO THAT WE CAN PUSH IT OUT AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU NEXT YEAR IN 2026.

SO WE'LL START WITH VERONICA AND LET HER KICK IT OFF. >> THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM VERONICA GARCIA, DIRECTOR FOR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT. TODAY WE WILL PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON OUR ANNUAL REQUEST FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. THIS EFFORT DOES BUILD ON OUR PAST FUNDING ROUNDS, WHICH REFLECT OUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO ADDRESSING HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IN OUR CITY THROUGH YOUR SUPPORT AND THE SUPPORT OF OUR PARTNERS. WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN BRINGING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO OUR CITY IN AREAS WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE AND WITH THE TYPE OF HIGH QUALITY HOUSING WE WANT TO SEE. SO GAP FUNDING SUPPORTS BOTH THE CREATION AND PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND IT HELPS GUIDE DEVELOPMENT TOWARD OUR COMMUNITY'S PRIORITIES. THIS FUNDING, WHAT IT DOES IS IT HELPS CLOSE A FINANCIAL SHORTFALL BETWEEN THE PROJECT COSTS, WHAT IT COSTS TO BUILD, AND WHAT TRADITIONAL FINANCING AND THE PROJECT REVENUES CAN COVER. IT'S REALLY THE CRITICAL PIECE THAT MAKES A PROJECT

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ALL OF THE PROJECTS UP FOR AWARD WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR FULL CONSIDERATION. THIS IS THE TIMELINE OF OUR RFP PROCESS.

WE STARTED LAST MONTH WITH DISCUSSIONS WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION. I WILL SHARE WHAT THEIR FEEDBACK WAS.

WE BRIEFED THE HOUSING COMMISSION ON OUR SOLICITATION PROCESS LAST MONTH AND THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

AFTER TODAY'S B SESSION WE WILL OPEN THE RFP ON DECEMBER 2ND AND IT WILL BE OPEN THROUGH JANUARY 16TH. WE WILL THEN PROCEED TO EVALUATE PROPOSALS, ONCE AGAIN BRIEF HOUSING COMMISSION AND BRIEF COUNCIL IN B SESSION AND FINAL AWARDS WILL BE CONSIDERED IN APRIL.

SO I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT RFPS FOR THIS ROUND OF GAP FUNDING.

WE HAVE A TOTAL OF $16.7 MILLION AVAILABLE IN BOTH BOND AND FEDERAL FUNDS.

AND FOR THIS SOLICITATION WE WILL AGAIN PRIORITIZE PROJECTS WITH AT LEAST 15 UNITS OF THE AFFORDABLE, HOUSEHOLDS EARNING [INDISCERNIBLE].

AND IN SAN ANTONIO THAT'S ABOUT $26,000 FOR A FAMILY OF THREE.

WITH BOTH RFPS WE WILL INVITE PARTNERS TO BRING PROJECTS THAT ALIGN WITH OUR HOUSING PRIORITIES, LOOKING FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE SHOVEL READY, THAT ARE LOCATED NEAR AMENITIES WITH SERVICES FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE, ALL IN THE AIM OF CREATING LONG-TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING. FOR OUR RENTAL HOUSING SOLICITATION WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 14.4 MILLION, INCLUDING 10 MILLION IN HOUSING BOND FUNDS, AND 4.4 MILLION IN FEDERAL HOME AND CDBG DOLLARS.

FOR HOME OWNERSHIP WE HAVE ABOUT $2.3 MILLION, ALL FROM FEDERAL CDBG DOLLARS, AND ANY FUNDS THAT WE IDENTIFY THROUGH COUNCIL PROJECTS WHO CAN'T CONTINUE OR ANY FEDERAL PROGRAM SAVINGS ASKING MADE AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS SOLICITATION OR WE CAN USE IT FOR STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITION WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL.

SO THE DETAILS OF OUR RENTAL HOUSING THIS ROUND WE ARE COMBINING APPLICATIONS FOR NEW RENTAL HOUSING OR REHAB OF EXISTING HOUSING. THIS IS BECAUSE IN PREVIOUS SCORING ROUNDS WE HAD THESE AS TWO SEPARATE SOLICITATIONS.

WHAT WE FOUND A COUPLE ■OF TIMES WAS THAT PROJECTS MAY BE PRESENTING BOTH.

THEY MAY BE ACQUIRING AND REHABBING AN EXISTING RENTAL PROPERTY AND THEN WANTING TO CREATE ADDITIONAL NEW UNITS ON-SITE. AND THERE WAS CHALLENGES THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE TO APPLY FOR AND WITH DIFFERENT SCORING COMMITTEES, DIFFERENT APPLICATION PROCESS, SELECTION PROCESS, THAT GOT COMPLICATED. SO IN OUR LAST ROUND, SO WE'RE AGAIN RECOMMENDING IN THIS ROUND, THAT WE COMBINE THEM INTO ONE SOLICITATION SO WE ALLOW DEVELOPMENT TEAMS TO BE AS CREATIVE AS POSSIBLE WHERE WHETHER THEY WANT TO REHAB, CREATE NEW HOUSING OR BOTH. AND THE SCORING COMMITTEES WILL BE GUIDED TO TRY AND INCLUDE BOTH RENTAL PRODUCTS FOR CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS RENTAL REHAB SINCE WE DO HAVE BOTH POTS OF FUNDING AVAILABLE. WE WILL AGAIN BE LOOKING FOR PROJECTS TO HAVE AT LEAST 15% OF THE UNITS FOR FAMILIES AT 30% AMI OR BELOW. THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH OURSHIP AND ENSURING WE'RE CREATING MORE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. LOCATION WILL BE CONSIDERED AND PRIORITIZED THIS ROUND. WE'RE LOOKING FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE URBAN CORE, PROJECTS ALONG OUR GREEN OR SILVER VIA LINES. AND THE SCORING PANEL WILL INCLUDE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS STAKEHOLDERS. AND WE'LL BE INCLUDING TWO MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE. WE AGAIN WILL BE LOOKING FOR PROJECTS TO NOT JUST REQUEST CITY FUNDS, BUT PRIVATE FUNDING SOURCES, AND FOR ALL NEW PRODUCTION PROJECTS WE'LL BE CONDUCTING A DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENT WHICH REALLY LOOKS AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, HELPING US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VULNERABILITY FACTORS AND GIVING THAT INFORMATION TO THE SCORING COMMITTEE BEFORE ANY FUNDING DECISIONS ARE RECOMMENDED. FOR THE HOME OWNERSHIP CATEGORY WE HAVE $2.3 MILLION AVAILABLE. THIS IS ALL FEDERAL FUNDS.

THIS CATEGORY PRIORITIZES PROJECTS FOR FAMILIES UP TO 80% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR BELOW, AND SINCE WE HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AVAILABLE IN THIS FUNDING CATEGORY, IF WE DO IDENTIFY ANY ADDITIONAL PROGRAM SAVINGS OR CANCELED

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THEY DID ASK THAT WE CONSIDER EXCEPTIONS FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE REHAB SUCH AS HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS. WHILE THOSE DO TEND TO OFFER TO DO UNIVERSAL DESIGN WHERE POSSIBLE, SOMETIMES JUST BASED ON THE EXISTING PROJECT IT MAY NOT BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO MEET ALL OF THE UNIVERSITY DESIGN CRITERIA, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY FOR EXISTING PROJECTS. IN ADDITION THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED PRIORITIZING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN HALF A MILE OF VIA'S GREEN OR SILVER LINE.

OUR PREVIOUS CRITERIA REQUIRED DEVELOPMENTS TO BE A QUARTER-MILE TO RECEIVE PRIORITY THROUGH VIA AND THEY WERE PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS.

THEY RECOMMENDED GOING UP TO HALF A MILE BECAUSE THAT IS STILL OPENS UP TO MORE SITES ALONG THE LINES. WE'RE ALSO ASKED TO CONSIDER, WHICH WE DO, PROJECTS THAT ARE ALONG FREQUENT TRANSIT LINES, SO MORE FREQUENT SERVICE, OR EVEN THOSE WITHIN A VIA LINK SERVICE ZONE. AND THEN AGAIN, WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT PROJECTS NOT JUST ON HOW MANY AFFORDABLE UNITS THEY'RE CREATING, BUT HOW THEY'RE SUPPORTING RESIDENTS LIVING IN THOSE COMMUNITIES IN THE LONG-TERM. SO AN EXAMPLE PRIORITY PROJECTS AND SERVICES WOULD BE HIGH QUALITY PRE-K AS DEFINED BY PRE-K FOR SAN ANTONIO, AND MAYBE ANY OTHER ASSISTANCE SUCHS IS MAYBE GUIDANCE WITH RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. THE EVALUATION COMMITTEES FOR BOTH RFPS ARE SURPRISE COMPRISED OF A DIVERSE GROUP OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, FROM OUR DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS CITY STAFF FROM HOMELESS SERVICES AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, PUBLIC WORKS, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT OF COMPLIANCE, OPPORTUNITY AND ACCESS.

VIA ONCE AGAIN WILL BE HELPING US EVALUATE THE PROPOSALS AND REALLY LOOKING AT AND HOW FREQUENT THE TRANSIT IS. AND THEN FINALLY, FOR PROJECTS FOR THE RENTAL PROJECTS, SINCE WE DO HAVE BOND FUNDS WE'LL BE INCLUDING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY BOND COMMITTEE. FOR THE GAP FUNDING SCORING CRITERIA, WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE, REFLECTING THE COUNCIL ADOPTED HOUSING BOND PARAMETERS AS WELL AS THE HOUSING COMMISSION'S EVALUATION FRAMEWORK.

THIS IS THE SAME SCORING CRITERIA WE'VE USED IN PREVIOUS ROUNDS AND WE'VE NOTED HOW THE PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE HEARD FEED INTO EACH OF THE FUNDING CATEGORY CATEGORIES. THE SCORING CRITERIA THAT HAS THE MOST POINTS IS FOR DEEPER AFFORDABILITY, AND AGAIN THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'RE REQUIRING PROJECTS TO HAVE AT LEAST 15% OF THEIR UNITS AT 30% AMI OR BELOW.

OF THOSE 30 POINTS I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FIVE POINTS ARE SET ASIDE FOR PROJECTS THAT HAVE INCOME-BASED HOUSING OR PUBLIC HOUSING INCORPORATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY COULD DO THAT WITH HOUSING VOUCHERS OR OTHER TYPES OF FINANCING TOOLS THAT REALLY TIE A PERSON'S INCOME TO THE RENT THAT THEY PAY. SO FOR PROJECTS THAT DO NOT HAVE THIS PUBLIC HOUSING OR INCOME-BASED HOUSING COMPONENT, THEY COULD ONLY RECEIVE A MAXIMUM OF 25 POINTS FOR THAT CATEGORY. IN ADDITION, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT PROJECTS THAT ARE SHOVEL READY, HOW MUCH FUNDING IT'S REQUESTING FROM THE CITY VERSUS OTHER PRIVATE SOURCES THAT ARE BEING LEVERAGED. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT HOW PROJECTS ARE BEING DESIGNED, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, THAT'S UP TO 15 POINTS. THIS WILL WHERE WE WILL BE HAVING PRIORITY POINTS FOR FAMILY-SIZED UNITS, FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE LOCATED IN PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT AS WE DESCRIBED EARLIER, FOR PROJECTS THAT MAY BE LOCATED WITHIN THE URBAN CORE, AND THIS IS ALSO WHERE UNIVERSAL DESIGN LEVELS COME INTO MIND AS WELL AS THE SUSTAINABILITY FEATURES A PROJECT MAY BE INCORPORATING BEYOND OUR TRADITIONAL CODE REQUIREMENT. SO GIVE YOU SOME HISTORY, OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE SCORED HIGH IN THIS CATEGORY HAVE THINGS SUCH AS HIGHLY REFLECTIVE OR SOLAR-READY ROOFS. THEY MAY HAVE EV CHARGING STATIONS ON SITE AND USING XERISCAPING OR OTHER THINGS SUCH AS RECAPTURED RAINWATER.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT CAN GET HIGHER POINTS IN THESE TYPES OF SOLICITATIONS. IN ADDITION THE DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE WERE REVIEWED SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS STRUCTURE AND WHAT THEIR SPECIFIC EXPERIENCE IS WITH CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS ALSO LOCALLY.

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OUR AFFORDABLE GAP FUNDING EVALUATION PROCESS IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND WELL ROUNDED. WITH COUNCIL APPROVING EACH AND EVERY PROJECT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SUPPORT A WIDE RANGE OF IMPACTFUL DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDING BOTH RENTAL AND HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. A TOTAL OF 10 COMMUNITY COMMUNIS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE GUIDE WHICH REPRESENTS THE 36 SQUARE MILES OF THE CITY.

THAT'S HOW WE PUT SOME BOUNDARIES AROUND HOW WE'RE DEFINING URBAN CORE SOLICITATION. THIS FOCUS ON BUILDING HOUSING IN THE URBAN CORE BRINGS MANY BENEFITS. WE'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOUSES PEOPLE CLOSER TO TRANSIT, JOBS AND ESSENTIAL SERVICES, WHICH REALLY MAKES HOUSING EVEN MORE AFFORDABLE IN THE LONG-TERM. THESE 10 DEVELOPMENTS REPRESENT 747 HOMES, OF WHICH 62% ARE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE.

AND A TOTAL OF NEARLY $25 MILLION IN JUST CITY INVESTMENT FOR THESE PROJECTS. NEXT I'LL PROVIDE KIND OF AN OVERVIEW ON OUR HOUSING BONDS. SO TO DATE OUR HOUSING BOND WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS BACK IN 2022 AND WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED SO FAR WE CAN EXPECT ABOUT 5,000 HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED. OF THOSE 5,000, ABOUT 2200 ARE ALREADY COMPLETE, ANOTHER 1400 ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND THE FINAL 1300, MOST OF THOSE ARE A PART OF THE FUNDING ROUND JUST APPROVED BY COUNCIL THIS PAST SUMMER, AND THOSE WOULD BE IN THE PREDEVELOPMENT STAGES.

A TOTAL OF ALMOST 130 MILLION, SO JUST OVER 85% OF ALL BOND FUNDS, ARE COMMITTED. AND THEN, THE PRE-SOLICITATION TODAY IS RECOMMENDING USING THE REMAINING BOND FUNDS FOR EITHER GAP FUNDING OR STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITION. FOR EVERY ONE DOLLAR IN BOND FUNDS THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO PROJECTS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LEVERAGE AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN DOLLARS IN EITHER PRESIDENTIAL, PRIVATE OR PHILANTHROPIC FUNDS INVESTED IN SAN ANTONIO.

WE HAVE COMPLETED A TOTAL OF FIVE ROUNDS FOR HOUSING BOND PROJECTS AND WE HAVE ABOUT $20 MILLION REMAINING. SO THROUGH THIS SOLICITATION WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO USE 10 MILLION IN THE RENTAL HOUSING CATEGORY, AND THEN THE REMAINING 1.5 MILLION IS OUT RIGHT NOW FOR A COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION FOR COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.

THIS CREATIVE MODEL WILL USE BOND FUNDING FOR NON-PROFITS TO ACQUIRE AND HOLD LAND, WHICH WILL THEN ENSURE LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY FOR OWNERS OR RENTAL.

IT'S A CREATIVE STRATEGY IN THE SHIP THAT HAS BOND FUNDS AND WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE FUTURE. THE REMAINING MILLION IS PROPOSED TO BE USED TO SUPPORT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WITH THE FOCUS ON STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITION.

SO TODAY'S PROPOSAL OF 9 MILLION WILL BE USED FOR LAND ACQUISITION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST. LAST DECEMBER CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK AND MANY INQUIRED ABOUT HOW WE CAN USE THE REMAINING HOUSING BOND FUNDS TO ACQUIRE LAND ALONG THE GREEN LINE OR THE SILVER LINE. THE REMAINING BOND FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE, AND THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION RECOMMENDATIONS WILL INDEED COME BACK TO COUNCIL FINAL APPROVAL. THE LAND ACQUISITION OPPORTUNITIES WILL INDEED FOLLOW THE SAME PARAMETERS THAT THE HOUSING BOND HAS ATTACHED TO IT, MANY WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR FUTURE PROJECTS THAT ARE BUILT ON THE LAND, HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 15% OF THE UNITS AS DEEPLY AFFORDABLE.

YOU'LL HAVE THE SAME LONG-TERM COULD HAVE ADVANCE AS OUR OTHER PROJECTS, AND WE WILL BE -- COVENANTS FOR OUR OTHER PROJECTS AND WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY ALONG THOSE TARGET AREAS. THAT 9 MILLION, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT 4.2 MILLION WAS IN THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING CATEGORY SO WE CAN EXPECT THAT THAT FUNDING RECOMMENDATION WILL INCLUDE A PROPERTY ACQUISITION THAT MAY BE FOR FUTURE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECT.

AGAIN, ALL OF THE PROJECTS BEFORE ANY ACQUISITIONS ARE FINALIZED, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD COME BACK FOR CONSIDERATION. SO IN CLOSING I WANTED TO PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITION THAT WE FUNDED THROUGH THE PREVIOUS 2017 NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BOND. THIS WAS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND MULTIPLE PARTNERS, INCLUDING RSA, ITS HOUSING TRUST, OPPORTUNITY HOME, FRANKLIN DEVELOPMENT AND SAM MINISTRIES. THE PROJECT WILL RESULT IN 80 AFFORDABLE AND FAMILY-SIZED HOMES. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND ON TRACK TO OPEN IN DECEMBER.

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THIS REFLECTS OUR COMMITMENT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY.

WE'VE LAYERED PROJECT-BASED VOUCHERS FOR FAMILIES THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ALONG WITH STATE, LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS WHICH REALLY HELPED OUR CITY DOLLARS LEVERAGE EVEN FURTHER. AND YOU CAN SEE 100% OF THE UNITS IN THIS HOUSING COMMUNITY ARE AFFORDABLE, INCLUDING 16 UNITS UP TO 30% AMI, AND THE REMAINING AT 50 AND 60%. THE WHOLE PROJECT IS FAMILY-SIZE UNITS, MEANING THEY'RE ALL TWO AND THREE-BEDROOM UNITS.

AGAIN, IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE CAN USE BONDS TO PURCHASE LAND NOW IN A KEY AREA AND THEN BUILD A TYPE OF HOUSING PROJECT THAT ARE IN LINE WITH THE PRIORITIES THAT WE WANT TO SEE. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU SCREENING THANK YOU, VERONICA FOR THAT RUN DOWN. I WANT TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. FOR SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES' EDIFICATION, WHEN SHE SAID ON SLIDE 5 THAT THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOLLOWS THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED BY CITY COUNCIL, SHE MEANS THE COUNCIL OF 2022, NOT NECESSARILY OUR INPUT, OBVIOUSLY. ON SLIDE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, VERONICA, SO WE CAN LEVEL SET FROM SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL, IN PRIORITIZING DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE GREEN LINE AND SILVER LINE, CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT SOME OF UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU THINK THAT RADIUS WOULD DO IN TERMS OF SUPPLY, BUT OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON IS DENSITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ACHIEVE THAT LEVEL. SO CAN YOU TALK TO US A LITTLE ABOUT THE

CONVERSATION FROM GOING FROM A QUARTER MILE TO A--MILE? >> SURE.

THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OPEN THE SOLICITATION UP FOR A LARGER NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT MAY BE ALONG THE GREEN OR SILVER LINE.

THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION AROUND WHERE THE TRANSIT STOPS ARE LOCATED SINCE THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN DEFINED FOR THE SILVER LINE. THE STOPS THEMSELVES WERE NOT PRIORITIZED, BUT INSTEAD WE DECIDED TO KEEP THE PREFERENCE AROUND THE GREEN LINE, THE SILVER LINE AND MOST COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN VIA AGREED THAT HALF A MILE WITHIN THE LINE SEEMS TO BE A REASONABLE DISTANCE FOR

THE TRANSIT ALONG THE LINE. >> MAYOR JONES: WAS THERE DIFFICULTY IN FINDING ENOUGH LAND WHEN IT WAS ONLY KEPT TO A QUARTER? I DON'T TAKE THE BUS, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE WALKING AT THE HALF A MILE IS PROBABLY NOT IDEAL FOR MOST FOLKS IN SOME PLACES WHERE IT ONLY COMES AROUND ONCE AN HOUR, HENCE MY QUESTION OF HOW DO WE UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT OF THIS IN KIND OF THE REAL WORLD TIME AND POTENTIAL

CHALLENGE IT ADDS TO THAT PERSON'S DAY? >> SURE.

I MEAN, YES, TO COULD POTENTIALLY BE A LONGER DISTANCE, BUT I THINK THERE ARE LIMITED OPTIONS, EDGE FOR THOSE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS, OF WHAT PARCELS ARE WITHIN A QUARTER-MILE OF THE LINE. SO AGAIN, WANTING TO TRY AND HAVE AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS POSSIBLE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY COULDN'T GO EVEN FURTHER OUT, THEY JUST WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GET THE PRIORITY

POINTS IN THIS PARTICULAR SOLICITATION. >> MAYOR JONES: SO WHAT YOU JUST SAID THERE IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND KIND OF FOR FOLLOW-ON DISCUSSIONS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING CRITERIA LIKE THAT, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HIGH, BY GOING FROM A QUARTER MILE TO A HALF FILE, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY X NUMBER MORE PLOTS THAT SUPPORT A HIGHER DENSITY LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION.

THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT I THINK REALLY HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY SOMETHING MAKES SENSE THAT MIGHT NOT BE INTUITIVE TO US.

AND ON THAT LAST BULLET, JUST FOR EVERYONE'S EDIFICATION, WHEN IT SAYS CONTINUE PRIORITIZING RESIDENT SERVICES LIKE HIGH QUALITY PRE-K.

PRIORITIZING ARE SYNONYMOUS? >> RIGHT. >> MAYOR JONES: I KNOW IT'S NOT FOR YOU TO ANSWER IN OUR PRE-. THIS IS A LARGER DISCUSSION FOR US TO HAVE, ERIK. I MEAN, FRANKLY NOT UNLIKE OTHER MAJOR CITIES WHERE PRE-K IS -- AND CHILDCARE SERVICES ARE MORE INTEGRATED AND DISBURSED IN COMMUNITIES, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE ONE LARGE BIG SITE THROUGHOUT -- JUST A HANDFUL OF THOSE. I THINK ERIK MENTIONED IT ACTUALLY BASED ON HIS -- THE

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THESE ARE JUST MUCH MORE INTEGRATED INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE MORE ACCESSIBLE. SO THE WAY IN WHICH WE HAVE DR. BRAY HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW IT COULDN'T BE THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO CHALLENGE OUR ASSUMPTIONS WILL HOW WE PROVIDE THAT IN AND THE UTILITY OF DOING SO. ON THE SCORING CRITERIA, SLIDE 11, THANK YOU FOR LAYING THIS OUT. AND FOR ME EXPLAINING WHERE THERE IS SOME DISCRETION ACTUALLY IN THIS MORE SO THAN MIGHT BE APPARENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE. AND FOR ME THE DISCRETION IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT SOMETIMES IS IT IN THAT NUANCE WHERE FOLKS THINK THEIR COMPETITIVE AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT COMPETITIVE, RIGHT? SO CAN YOU DESCRIBE AGAIN THE DISCRETION WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABILITY? AND HOW THE COMMISSION LOOKED AT A A POINT ON THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ANSWERED THE RFP, RATHER, AND NOT BEEN A ONE IF ONE AS WE WERE TALKING IN OUR MEETING.

IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT, THAT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME.

>> SO FOR THE AFFORDABILITY CATEGORY, THE MAX POINTS A RESPOND EDUCATE CAN RECEIVE IS 30 POINTS. IF PROJECT THEY COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FULL 30 POINTS.

IF THEY DO NOT HAVE THE INCOME-BASED UNITS THEY COULD HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 25 POINTS. THEY ARE AT THE MEMBERS' DISCRETION.

THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT VARIOUS FACTORS AND WE DO GET A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED. SOME HAVE A FOCUS ON SPECIAL POPULATION, LIKE OLDER ADULTS, SOME ARE FAMILY FOCUSED.

AND WE GET PROJECTS OF ALL DIFFERENT SIZES. SO THAT THRESHOLD A MINIMUM OF 15% AT 30, THAT COULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NUMBER OF UNITS BASED ON THE PROJECT SIZE. SO WHILE SOME PROJECTS MAY GO, OH, I HAVE 20% AT 30, THEY COULD BE A REALLY SMALL PROJECT AND AT THE END OF THE DAY ONLY HAVE 15 UNITS AT 30% AMI. A BIGGER MORE DENSE PROJECT MAY MEET THE 15% THRESHOLD AND TILL BE PROVIDING 45 OR 50 UNITS AT THAT AMI. SO THE PROJECTS ARE UNIQUE, IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT POPULATIONS, DIFFERENT SIZES, WE REALLY DO LEAVE THOSE AT THE COMMITTEE'S DISCRETION SO THEY CAN EVALUATE WHAT THEY THINK SHOULD RECEIVE THE MAXIMUM POINTS.

AGAIN, BUT THERE IS THAT FIVE-POINT SET ASIDE SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE INCOME-BASED UNITS WHICH ADJUST TO A PERSON'S INCOME AT THE TIME.

>> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. DISCRETION IS REALLY GOING TO BE BASED ON WHO ANSWERS THE RFP, AND THAT DISCRETION COULD LOOK DIFFERENT FROM WHO ANSWERS THIS RFP VERSUS WHO ANSWERED A PREVIOUS RFP VERSUS WHO WOULD ANSWER A FUTURE RFP. SO JUST TO LEVEL SET FOR MY COLLEAGUES, THAT DISCRETION IS -- IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU TAKE A TEST AND YOUR GRADE IS ACTUALLY BASED ON EVERYONE ELSE TAKING THE TEST, NOT HOW WELL YOU ACTUALLY ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS ON THE TEST, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. DID I CAPTURE THAT

CORRECTLY? >> I THINK SO. I'LL ALSO JUST NOTE FOR THE COMMITTEE'S BENEFIT THAT THE COMMITTEE ALSO HAS THE OPTION TO NOT AWARD ALL OF THE FUNDING, AND THEY HAVE DONE THAT WHEN THEY'VE RECEIVED PROJECTS THAT MAYBE WEREN'T AS AFFORDABLE AS THEY THOUGHT THE FUNDING REQUEST MADE SENSE.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS THAT OPTION, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY SCORE WELL, TO NOT AWARD ALL

THE FUNDS IF THE PROJECTS AREN'T COMPETITIVE. >> MAYOR JONES: RIGHT.

AND THIS REALLY -- COUNCILWOMAN KAUR'S AMENDMENT LAST WEEK REALLY KIND OF GOT ME THINKING ABOUT WHAT THAT APPROACH WOULD MEAN IN THIS CONTEXT.

BECAUSE AS WE DESCRIBED, BASED ON HOW THIS IS SET UP AND THE DISCRETION THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS, YOU COULD NOT HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, TWO RFPS BOTH GET 100 ON THE

TEST. >> I GUESS YOU COULD HAVE THAT, BUT WE WOULD REALLY HAVE THE COMMITTEE LOOKING AT HOW THEY WOULD BE DIFFERENTIATING THE POINTS

FROM ONE PROJECT TO THE NEXT. >> MAYOR JONES: RIGHT.

HOWEVER, IF TWO FOLKS GOT 100 ON THE TEST, RIGHT, HOW THEN WOULD YOU DIFFERENTIATE

AFTER THAT. >> FINAL FUNDING AWARD. IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH EACH ONE IS ASKING FOR AND IF THE COMMITTEE COULD HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND THEM BOTH.

>> MAYOR JONES: YEAH. SO I SAY THIS BECAUSE US UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE DISCRETION IS HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHERE WE CAN DO EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILWOMAN KAUR'S AMENDMENT WILL LAST TIME, WHICH IS NOT CHANGE THE TEST, PER SE, BUT RATHER BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE POINT THAT WE'RE AWARDING FOR CERTAIN PARTS OF THAT TEST THAT WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT. AND CERTAINLY THE

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>> YOU'RE RIGHT. AND I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL CLEAR THAT FOR SMALLER PROJECTS THAT DO GO ABOVE THAT 15%, THEY MAY HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THEIR OVERALL PROJECT AT 30, BUT THAT MAY RESULT IN A LOWER NUMBER OF 30% UNITS

OVERALL COMPARED TO LIKE A MORE DENSE PROJECT. >> MAYOR JONES: IT MAY,

BUT IT MAY NOT. >> IT MAY NOT. WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE SEE

THEM. >> MAYOR JONES: THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY THAT CLARITY ABOUT WHEN YOU GET POINTS AND WHEN YOU DON'T GET POINTS IS HELPFUL SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE OF THE KINDS OF PROJECTS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY A HIGHER LEVEL OF THAT DEEPER -- THAT DEEP AFFORDABILITY LEVEL. BECAUSE THE OTHER PIECE WHERE THERE IS SOME DISCRETION IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> YES. >> MAYOR JONES: SO TO LEVEL SET FOR EVERYBODY, HOW

ARE THOSE 15 POINTS ALLOTTED? >> SURE.

WE USUALLY LOOK AT -- AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE 15 POINTS ARE COMPLETELY DISCRETIONARY TO THE COMMITTEE SO THEY WILL LOOK AT THE MAKEUP OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, HOW LONG THEY'VE DONE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SPECIFICALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING TYPE EXPERIENCE. THEY MAY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HOW MANY OTHER PROJECTS THEY'VE DONE IN SAN ANTONIO, THE SIZE OF THOSE PROJECTS.

DO THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH RESIDENT SERVICES, WHAT ARE THE SERVICES.

IT COULD ALSO BE EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER CITY DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED.

DID THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR MORE DOLLARS TO GET THE PROJECT DONE? DID THEY GET IT DONE ON TIME? ALL OF THAT CAN BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FACTORS UNDER DEVELOPMENT

EXPERIENCE. >> MAYOR JONES: I APPRECIATE THAT COST, SCHEDULE, PERFORMANCE, ABSOLUTELY. I ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE INCORPORATING SOMETHING THAT HAS DISCRETION AND IS TIED TO HOW MANY PROJECTS YOU HAVE DONE IN SAN ANTONIO, WE ARE INADVERTENTLY GIVING A LEG UP TO THOSE WHO ALREADY HAVE DONE THIS KIND OF WORK AND POTENTIALLY EXCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN RIGHT TO DO THIS WORK AND WHO WE WANT TO INCREASE COMPETITIVENESS WHICH ALWAYS HELPS TO DRIVE DOWN COSTS. I WAS THANKFUL TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE LAST TWO NON-PROFIT STATUS AND VETERAN OWNED, THOSE ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. ON SLIDE 15, THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, FOR EVERYONE'S EDIFICATION, WHAT WAS THE ANALYSIS THAT WENT INTO SHOWING THIS WAS NOT AN

AREA WHERE WE WOULD PRIORITIZE FOR THE RFP? >> ON THE PERMANENT

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING? >> YES. >> BECAUSE WE IDENTIFIED THE ENTIRE 4.2 MILLION TO GO TO STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITION, IN THE LAST FUNDING ROUND WE DID PUT OUT THE 4-POINT '22 MILLION AND WE JUST DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE.

USUALLY WHEN WE GIVE AWARDS FOR PSH, THEY'RE 10 MILLION OR MORE, SO WE'RE INCENTIVIZING BOTH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE UNITS AND THE OPERATIONAL OF AT LEAST THE FIRST ONE TO TWO YEARS. AND WE JUST HAVE A LITTLE

BIT OF CAPITAL DOLLARS LEFT. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU. AND IN CASE ANYONE ELSE HAS THE SAME QUESTION THAT I HAD REGARDING THE -- AS WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE DENSITY, THIS POTENTIAL KIND OF COUNTER INTUITIVE APPROACH TO THE NINE PERCENT TAX CREDIT, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO FIND THE ANSWER TO

THAT BEFORE, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. >> SO THE STATE DOESN'T LIMIT THE SIZE OF THE TAX CREDIT, BUT THEY DO CAP THE ANNUAL TAX CREDIT ALLOCATION AWARD, WHICH IS 2 MILLION COLLARS A YEAR, AND THEY CAN USE THAT FOR 10 YEARS PER PROJECT. SO THAT MEANS THE ACTUAL FINANCING TOOL WILL ONLY GENERATE $20 MILLION IN THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO COULD THEY GO BIGGER? THEY COULD, BUT THEY HAVE TO PRESENT A FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE PROJECT KNOWING THAT'S THE FINANCING TOOL. SO IF THEY GO BIGGER, CONSTRUCTION COSTS GET BIGGER AND THE OPERATING COSTS GO HIGHER AND ALL OF THOSE ARE NOT NECESSARILY

ELIGIBLE COSTS FOR THE STATE CONSIDERATION. >> MAYOR JONES: AND THE BACKGROUND ON THAT, I WAS ASKING EVEN IN ALL YOUR PICTURES, BUT AS WE DRIVE THROUGH TOWN MOST OF THESE PROJECTS ARE FOUR STORIES, FIVE STORIES MAX.

SO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS CAUSING THAT, AND AS VERONICA MENTIONED, SHE THOUGHT IT WAS TIED POTENTIALLY TO THE TAX CREDIT, BUT IT IS NOT THAT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH FOLKS ABOUT THE TYPE OF DENSITY THAT WE LOOK FOR IN THOSE PROJECTS.

>> WE CAN, BUT THE NINE PERCENT, BECAUSE OF THAT PARTICULAR FINANCING TOOL, MOST DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO PROPOSE A PROJECT SIZE THAT THAT FINANCING TOOL CAN COVER. IF THEY WANT -- IF WE WOULD WANT A MORE DENSE PROJECT, WE CAN ASK FOR THAT AND JUST KNOW THEY'D HAVE TO EXPLORE OTHER FINANCING OPTIONS.

>> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU.

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COUNCILWOMAN SPEARS? >> WALSH: BACK TO YOUR FIRST POINT ABOUT THE QUESTION OF THE QUARTER MILE VERSUS HALF MILE. AS VERONICA LAID OUT, PREVIOUS STATIONS WERE A QUARTER MILE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M ASCERTAINING YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THINK MAYBE A SUGGESTION WOULD BE, WELL, WHILE WE ARE PRIORITIZING HALF A MILE, MAYBE WE EXTRA PRIORITIZE QUARTER OF A MILE. THAT WAY THERE'S A BUBBLE THERE AND GOING BACK TO YOUR TEST ANALOGY, GIVE THEM EXTRA CREDIT IF THEY HIT THE QUARTER MILE.

>> MAYOR JONES: I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE INTENT IS THEY'RE STILL TAKING PUBLIC TRANSIT.

>> YES, YES. >> MAYOR JONES: THAT'S A VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATION.

THANKS, ERIK. >> I'LL ADD SOME CLARITY THAT THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK LISTED HALF A MILE OF THE BOUNDARY FROM THE ZONES THEMSELVES, TRANSIT LINES, AND THEY LOOKED AT APPROXIMATELY A 10 MINUTE WALK.

SO I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO ALIGN WITH THAT, BUT DEFINITELY COULD LOOK AT

MORE PRIORITY THE CLOSER YOU ARE TO THE LINE. >> MAYOR JONES:

COUNCILWOMAN SPEARS. >> SPEARS: THANK YOU, VERONICA FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I HAVE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS ON THIS.

MY FIRST ONE IS I SEE ON SLIDE 9 YOU'RE SPEAKING TO MULTI-FAMILY OR FAMILY ORIENTED, BUT I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SENIORS AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE A WAY THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND ALSO PERSONS WITH DISABILITY.

AND THE REASONING IS BECAUSE MANY TIMES THEY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE INCOME. SO I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN THAT WE AREN'T LOOKING CLOSELY ENOUGH AT WHAT KIND OF HOUSING WE CAN DO FOR OUR SENIORS.

>> SURE, COUNCILWOMAN, THANK YOU. AND I'LL CLARIFY THAT IN THE RFP ITSELF WE IDENTIFY THAT YOU COULD GET PRIORITY FOR MULTIPLE TYPES OF HOUSING AND HOUSING SPECIFICALLY FOR OLDER ADULTS IS A SPECIAL POPULATION THAT WE CALL OUT AS WELL AS PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. THERE'S MULTIPLE CATEGORIES, BUT WITH THE COMMITTEE FEEDBACK IT WAS SPECIFICALLY THAT WE SHOULD REALLY ONLY BE OFFERING PRIORITY POINTS FOR FAMILY-SIZED UNITS IF IT'S NOT AN OLDER ADULT COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT REALLY -- WE DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE OLDER ADULT COMMUNITIES SAYING WELL, YOU'RE SERVING OLDER ADULTS, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE FAMILY SIZE. THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

TO KEEP THOSE EXCEPTIONS IN MIND WE'RE AWARDING THOSE PRIORITY POINTS.

I HOPE THAT CLARIFIES. SPEARS IT DOES. I DON'T THINK IT'S OWE.

>> SPEARS:, IT DOES, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE PRIORITIZING THE FAMILY SIZE UNITS SO MUCH. SO YOU MENTIONED ON SLIDE 11 SINCE WE'RE USING FEDERAL DOLLARS, SBEDA, THE LOCAL PREFERENCE CANNOT BE INCLUDED THERE.

IS THERE ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN PRIORITIZE LOCAL CONTRACTORS AND BUSINESSES?

>> I THINK IT GOES TO OUR EARLIER COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE, IF YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE IN SAN ANTONIO AND WHAT PROPOSAL YOU ARE DOING TO PIGGYBACK ON LAST WEEK'S DISCUSSION, MOST OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE RECEIVING OUR FUNDS ARE LAYERING OTHER TYPES OF FUNDING, WHICH COULD BE FEDERAL DOLLARS AND/OR STATE DOLLARS. AND WITH THE STATE SCORING CRITERIA IT'S REALLY A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY USE LOCAL CONTRACTORS. SO WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL PACKAGE OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE IS

WHERE THOSE POINTS CAN BE CONSIDERED. >> SPEARS: THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. IT SEGUES INTO SOMETHING THAT I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT.

ARE WE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY HISTORY AND THEIR IMPACTS ON COMMUNITY WHEN WE'RE DOING THE SCORING. I GUESS WHAT I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS ARE THE TAX DOLLARS WE'RE USING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SUBSIDIZING PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE ONE OF THE THREE DEVELOPMENTS THAT IS ON THE UTSA CRIME REDUCTION PLAN THAT'S IN OPPORTUNITY HOME PROPERTY. IT'S THE ROSEMONT AT HIGHLAND PARK.

IN SEPTEMBER WE HAD THE INCIDENT AT LEE PARK. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE LOW QUALITY. I THINK THIS IS A CONCERN. I THINK WE NEED TO BE TRACKING THAT KIND OF THING AND CRIME DATA AND ARE THEY IMPACTING THEIR COMMUNITY IN A POSITIVE WAY. IT'S GOT TO BE LOOKED AT. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS YOU YOU CALL IT, THE ASSESSMENT -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSESSMENT,

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WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? >> THE DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENT.

>> SPEARS: THE DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENT.

WE WANT TO HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT. WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE LIFTED UP OUT OF POVERTY. THAT SHOULD ALSO BE A TARGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, ARE WE USING POVERTY DATA IN OUR SCORING MODEL TO TARGET COMMUNITIES THAT ARE THE MOST IN NEED. ANOTHER POINT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE INTEGRATE THESE CHILDCARE CENTERS, HOW ARE WE -- WHAT'S THE OVERSIGHT FOR THAT? HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE? THAT THE FAMILIES ARE GETTING QUALITY CHILDCARE? IT SUCH A COMPLICATED THING AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S QUALITY. AND IF WE'RE NOT TRACKING HOW THINGS ARE GOING RIGHT NOW IN OUR SCORING METRICS, THEN I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT

THAT. >> SURE. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DO PART OF DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE IS HOW HAS THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT TEAM, HOW HAVE THEY DONE IN THE PAST WITH CITY DOLLARS, EVEN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

WE ALSO PUT THE SLIDE BACK UP HERE SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT'S ON THE SCORING COMMITTEE AND THEY DO HELP ADVISE AND LET US KNOW IF THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT EVEN IF THERE'S -- SOME OF THESE THEY COULD APPLY FOR REHAB, SO IF THAT PROJECT IS ON THE PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTION LIST WE WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND MAYBE EVEN DISQUALIFY REFUNDING. DOESN'T MEAN A NEW OWNER COULDN'T BUY IT AND FIX IT.

WE WOULDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY INCENTIVIZE A NEGLIGENT LANDLORD WITH BALING THEM OUT OF A SITUATION. SO ALL OF THAT IS WHY WE HAVE SUCH A DIVERSE SCORING COMMITTEE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE BACKGROUND CODE DATA, BUT OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM WOULD.

>> SPEARS: THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO HEAR. >> AND FOR THE CHILDCARE I'LL ADD THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE SAME STANDARDS AND WE DID HAVE LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH PRE-K FOR SA AND WHEN THEY ARE IDENTIFYING A PARTNER WE'RE REQUESTING THEM TO HAVE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION EDUCATION OF YOUNG CHILDREN CRITERIA ACCREDITATION SO WE CAN GIVE YOU THAT BACKUP INFORMATION ON WHAT THAT PRE-K FOR SA STANDARD IS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE PRE-K FOR SA, BUT CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT THEY RECOMMENDED. AND WE DO HAVE STAFF THAT HELPS WITH COMPLIANCE SO WE DO CHECK THESE PROJECTS, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, EVERY YEAR OR MINIMUM EVERY OTHER YEAR. AND MANY THAT ARE LAYERING STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDING HAVE ADDITIONAL CHECKS AND COMPLIANCE THAT THEY FALL

UNDER. >> SPEARS: OKAY. >> BUT WE'RE NOT JUST

RELYING ON THAT. OUR TEAM IS ALSO CHECKING. >> SPEARS: THAT'S GOOD.

AND THEN YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS, BUT ON SLIDE 10, WILL BOND COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THE EVALUATION PANEL HAVE VOTING AUTHORITY OR ADVISORY ONLY.

>> THE BOND COMMITTEES ARE VOTING. >> SPEARS: OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: I WANT TO CLARIFY THE POINT THAT THE COUNCILWOMAN MADE IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT MAY ACTUALLY QUALIFY FOR SOME OF THE REHABILITATION. THE -- WHERE THERE IS CRIME, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN SOME OF THESE PLACES WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR

REHABILITATION, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE CRIME ON-SITE IT'S MORE THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, IS THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PROACTIVE APARTMENT INSPECTION, IF SO, WHY? IF ARE THEY ON A POSITIVE PATH? THESE ARE THINGS WE'RE AWARE OF WHERE THEY STAND ON A

CODE CITATION ISSUE. >> MAYOR JONES: EXACTLY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THE WAYS IN WHICH THESE RENOVATIONS COULD HELP TO

DECREASE CRIME. >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> MAYOR JONES: OKAY.

COUNCILMAN MUNGIA. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, MAYOR AND VERONICA FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. I THINK Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

IN THE PRESENTATION YOU MENTIONED THE BEXAR SUBCOMMITTEE.

CAN YOU-- OWE THE BEAR SUBCOMMITTEE. WITH CAN YOU TELL US WHAT

THAT IS. >> IT WAS A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE CREATED WITH A REVIEW FOR CRITERIA SCORING FOR BOTH THE HOUSING RESOLUTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT LAST WEEK AS WELL AS THE GAP FUNDING SCORING CRITERIA.

IT STANDS FOR FINANCING, AFFORDABLE AND IMPACTFUL HOUSING RESOURCES.

FAIR SUBCOMMITTEE. THE MEMBERS INCLUDED MEMBERS OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION, INCLUDING THE COMMISSION IF CHAIR, KATIE WILSON, MICHAEL REYES FROM OPPORTUNITY HOME, PETE ALANIZ FROM THE HOUSING TRUST. KRISTIN DAVIS DAVILA FROMMER SAID. WE HAD MICHAEL TAYLOR FROM HABITAT AS WELL AS A FEW FOR-PROFIT HOUSING DEVELOPERS, SO A PRETTY DIVERSE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT HELPED INFORM OUR PROCESS. ALL OUR MEETINGS WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SO WE LISTENED

TO FEEDBACK FROM THAT AS WELL. >> AND I THINK THAT'S

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I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE $7 MILLION FOR HOUSING RIGHT NOW. THAT'S PART OF THE HOUSING PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT PROGRAM. SOON WE'LL DO A CULMINATION OF THE HOUSING BOND ONCE THAT'S BEEN EXPENDED, KIND OF LOOK THROUGH ALL THAT. AND ALSO IT'S THE MIDWAY OF SHIP COMING UP SOON. I THINK THE FIVE-YEAR MARK IS COMING UP SOON SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON TARGET WITH ALL THOSE THINGS. I THINK WHEN WE DO THE BACKUP MATERIALS TO SHARE WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, ADDING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO EACH PROJECT THAT'S BEEN AWARDED, WHAT POINT THEY FEEL THEY WERE OUT OF 100 WILL ADD TO THAT. THE OTHER PARTNERS ON THE PROJECT, OPPORTUNITY HOME AND HOUSING TRUST HAVE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS ON THESE THINGS AND SOME WOULDN'T HAVE WORKED OUT UNLESS THEY WERE PART OF THE PROJECT ALSO.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHICH ONE'S GOT LIHTC AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IS REALLY HELPFUL. AND I DO THINK THAT THOSE OF US THAT ARE ON THE HOUSING TRUST AND I'VE SEEN THIS GO ON FOR SOME TIME, I THINK THE PARTNERSHIP HAS REALLY ELEVATED THE QUALITY OF HOUSING THAT WE'VE SEEN. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF D4 THAT ARE NOT IN CONSTRUCTION AND PRE-LEASED 100% BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SO INTERESTED AND NEEDING A PLACE TO LIVE. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND IF YOU DO NOT EXPEND ALL OF THIS MONEY IN THIS RFP ROUND WHAT IS YOUR PLAN WITH

THE REMAINING FUNDING? >> SURE. SO WE COULD ALWAYS DO ANOTHER ROUND. IT IS USUALLY FEWER DOLLARS AND MAKES IT HARDER TO AWARD GAP FUNDING FOR PROJECTS THAT MAY MEET A LOT OF THE CRITERIA BUT HAVE A LARGER GAP. WE COULD ALWAYS CONSIDER -- WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A SET ASIDE FOR STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITION IS MAYBE ANY FUNDS NOT AWARDED COME BACK FOR STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITION. IT'S REALLY A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE LAND IN A TARGET AREA AND TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE HOUSING TRUST TO SET THOSE PROJECT PARAMETERS THAT WE WANT TO SEE AND THEN BUILD EXACTLY THE TYPE OF HOUSING COMMUNITY. AND IF THERE'S A SPECIAL POPULATION IN MIND WE WANT TO SERVE WE CAN MAKE THAT PART OF THE CRITERIA.

IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC SERVICES WE INSIST ON THAT COULD BE PART OF THE CRITERIA. WITH THESE EACH FUNDING ROUND IS VERY COMPETITIVE, BUT WE'RE LIMITED TO WHATEVER IS ACTUALLY SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION.

>> MUNGIA: ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED AN RFP PROCESS FOR LAND

ACQUISITION IF IT WAS REMAINING FUNDING? >> NO, WE WOULD LOOK TO THE HOUSING TRUST TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. IF THE HOUSING TRUST BOARD APPROVES THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, IT'S NOT THE FINAL SAY.

IT WILL STILL HAVE TO COME TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

>> MUNGIA: GOT YOU. THAT'S REALLY GOOD. SO THE LAND ACQUISITION IS

SOLELY WITH THE HOUSING TRUST? >> YES.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL SITES. >> MUNGIA: GREAT.

EXCITED ABOUT THOSE. AND I ALSO SUPPORT THE COMPROMISE THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER ABOUT TRYING TO HAVE SOME THE LINE. I WOULD NOTE THAT IN D4 THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT HAS BASED ON THE AIR FORCE BASE IN MY DISTRICT SO I COULDN'T BUILD VERY TALL NEXT TO MILITARY DRIVE. SO I THINK SOME OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS SHOULD BE LISTED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND HOW TALL IT IS AND ALL THAT.

>> SURE. I THINK YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT, COUNCILMAN.

SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE DESIGNED WITH A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT AND MAYBE WITH THE DENSITY AND TRYING TO BE COGNIZANT OF MAYBE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE NEARBY AND BUILDING A MIDSIZE DEVELOPMENT THAT MAYBE WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY THE COMMUNITY, STILL PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO ALL THAT IS STUFF THAT WE USUALLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN EVALUATING PROPOSALS.

>> MUNGIA: YEAH. SOME WOULD SAY TOO MUCH INPUT, SOME WOULD SAY TOO LITTLE. THAT'S ALL FOR ME. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR JONES: COUNCILWOMAN ALDERETE GAVITO.

>> GAVITO: THANK YOU, VERONICA. YOU AND YOUR TEAM ALWAYS DO SUCH A PHENOMENAL JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE RELEVANT INFORMATION.

I JUST HAVE THREE QUICK QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE -- I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SO MANY OF THESE PROJECTS STILL IN CONCEPT PHASE, BUT DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY UNITS THE 16.7 MILLION WOULD GET US OR A RANGE?

>> SURE. BASED ON PREVIOUS FUNDING ROUNDS, HOME OWNERSHIP WILL BE A LOT LESS. USUALLY WE'RE INCENTIVIZING ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO $75,000 PER UNIT, ESPECIALLY SINCE ALL WE HAVE IS FEDERAL FUNDS.

SO THAT MAY GETTING MAYBE ABOUT 30 UNITS SINCE WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 2.3 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR THAT. FOR THE RENTAL WE HAVE IN PRODUCTION, PRODUCTION USUALLY NEEDS HIGHER INCENTIVES THAN REHAB. NOT ALWAYS, BUT USUALLY.

WE ESTIMATE WE COULD DO ANYWHERE BETWEEN 3 TO 400 UNITS.

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PROPOSING. >> GAVITO: SO 30 UNITS FOR HOUSING AND 3 TO 400 FOR THE RENTAL. INTERESTING. AND ALSO TOO, DO WE HAVE -- ALL THIS INFORMATION IS GREAT, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY EVEN PRELIMINARY TIMELINES ON WHEN WE CAN START SEEING SOME OF THIS? WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR OTHER

THINGS? >> YEAH. SO THEY COULDN'T GO FOR ACTUAL CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING AWARDS UNTIL APRIL.

SHOVEL READINESS, THEIR DEVELOPMENT TIMELINES IS SOMETHING THAT WE SCORE SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE DESIGNED, SOMETIMES THEY'RE ALREADY PERMITTED.

THE FASTEST TURNAROUND WE'VE HAD IS A PROJECT THAT WAS AWARDED FUNDS IN DECEMBER, IT CLOSED TWO WEEKS LATER AND BROKE GROUND THREE MONTHS LATER.

IT'S A RECORD. >> GAVITO: SO ASSUMING THE -- YU GOING TO DO THE --

>> IN APRIL IS WHEN THEY'RE EXPECTED TO COME TO COUNCIL. >> GAVITO: SO LET'S JUST SAY APRIL. SO WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T SEE ANY OF THIS HAPPEN UNTIL

2028. >> YES. THESE PROJECTS WON'T HAPPEN

UNTIL A COUPLE OF YEARS TO BE BUILT AND MOVED IN. >> GAVITO: I WAS TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THAT. AND ALSO TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCILMAN MUNGIA WAS SAYING, I I LIKE THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS AND THINKING ABOUT LONE STAR DEVELOPMENT. I BELIEVE THAT'S ON THE GREEN LINE.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE TYPES OF PARTNERSHIPS TOO BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S FUELFUL NOT ONLY TO MEET THIS NEED, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPACTFUL FOR THE

CITY AS A WHOLE. >> SURE. >> GAVITO: THOSE ARE MY

COMMENTS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR JONES: COUNCILMAN GALVAN. >> GALVAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

ALWAYS GREAT WORK. I GENERALLY FEEL GOOD WITH THE GAP FUNDING RFP IN AUDIO] WITH THE REMAINING FUNDS, KIND OF FOCUSED THERE WITH THE STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITION. OVERALL I WANTED TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS I GUESS ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT' THIS? AND I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS A LARGE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE FUNDING, WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH POTENTIAL FUTURE BONDS.

BUT I GUESS BEFORE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL AND ALL THESE RFPS ARE TAKEN UP, WHERE DO WE SEE THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE SHIP OR FOR US TO KEEP

MOVING FORWARD ON THE SHIP? >> SURE. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT NOW TO LOOK AT THE FIVE-YEAR MARK AS COUNCILMAN MUNGIA MENTIONED, WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, DO WE ADJUST THE HOUSING GOALS, DO WE ADJUST WITHIN THE AMI MODELS BASED ON THE FUNDING WE HAVE.

WE'RE ALSO, WOULDING WITH THE HOUSING COMMISSION REMOVING BARRIER SUBCOMMITTEE. WHILE WE'RE NEARLY OUT OF HOUSING BOND FUNDS, IT'S USUALLY WHAT WE SEE NOW, SIX OR SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS. THEN WE TURN TO WHAT CAN WE DO FROM A REMOVING BARRIERS TO CREATING HOUSING, TERABYTE THAT'S ONE THING WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO EXPLORE IS DENSITY DOWNS PROGRAMS. OTHER POLICIES.

WE'LL BE COMING TO COUNCIL NEXT MONTH FOR RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADD MORE CITY FEE WAIVERS, INCREASE THE LIMITS THERE TO HELP AGAIN INCENTIVIZE MORE HOUSING. WHILE DOLLARS MAY BE LIMITED WITHOUT ANOTHER HOUSING BOND, THERE ARE OTHER TOOLS FROM WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND MAKING IT AN EASIER PROCESS OVERALL TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND WORKING WITH A COUPLE OF CONSULTANTS TO GET THOSE STRATEGIES. GOAL GOAL GOT IT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. SOMETHING WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE TYPES OF HOUSING WE'RE CREATING WITH THIS. DO WE TRACK INVENTORY OF THE TYPES OF HOUSING, NOT IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY, BUT IN TERMS OF SENIOR UNITS OR ACCESSIBLE UNITS, UNIVERSAL DESIGN UNITS OR NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN OUR CITY OR EVEN WITH THE SPECIFIC FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE UNITS?

>> SURE. THANK YOU. WE DO TRACK UNITS FOR OLDER ADULTS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THAT WAS A GOAL IN THE SHIP SPECIFICALLY, SO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, AS WELL AS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WAS ANOTHER GOAL IN THE SHIP, BUT 1,000 UNITS IS THE GOAL IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY TO THE MARK FOR OLDER ADULTS SPECIFICALLY. THE GOAL WAS ONLY 1200.

I DIDN'T WANT TO MENTION THAT EARLIER FOR COUNCILWOMAN SPEARS BECAUSE IS THAT PART OF THE GOAL FOR 1200, WE'RE DONE, BUT WE'RE NEVER DONE, SO PART OF RELOOKING AT THAT AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT MORE FOCUS DO WE NEED.

SO WE DO TRACK SOME OF THAT INFORMATION, BUT NOT NECESSARILY NUMBER OF FAMILY SIZE UNITS OR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

>> GALVAN: GOT IT. I THINK IF POSSIBLE IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING IN TERMS OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO US IN TERMS OF THE DATA OUT THERE FROM NON-SUBSIDIZED UNITS, BUT ALSO I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO LOOK AT THAT IN REAL-TIME TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AND DO THE SAME THING FOR THE OTHER WORK THEY WERE DOING WITH THE CITY WHEN LOOKING AT MOVING THE NEEDLE WITH DIFFERENT ISSUES.

I THINK THIS ONE IS HELPFUL. IF WE CAN TRACK THE DATA I THINK THAT WOULD BE

INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT COULD BE DONE. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> GALVAN: ON THE POINT ABOUT THE BOND OR THE FUTURE

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ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT BONDING CAPACITY IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE? IF IT'S SOONER THAN LATER OR LATER THAN WE EXPECTED?

>> YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN, I THINK IT'S EITHER DECEMBER 10TH OR DECEMBER 12TH, WHATEVER THAT B SESSION DATE IS, WE PLAN ON GIVING YOU AN UPDATE FROM THE AUGUST CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF THE FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS WE'VE BEEN UTILIZING. WE'VE BEEN STRESS TESTING SOME OF THOSE.

THE SECOND B SESSION IN DECEMBER. >> GALVAN: GOT IT.

I'LL HOLD THOSE COMMENTS BACK FOR THEM. LAST THING I WANTED TO MENTION, KIND OF REGARDING THAT, IS THAT I THINK IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT WE FIND WAYS TO [INDISCERNIBLE], LOOKING AT THE FEE WAIVERS AND OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF ACTUAL FINANCING. I'M ALWAYS INTERESTED IN FIGURING OUT WAYS WE CAN DO LARGER -- NOT LARGER, BUT SEPARATE REVOLVING FUNDS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE FROM THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING ON HOW THEY EMBARK ON THOSE EFFORTS SO THERE IS THE CONTINUED FUNDING MECHANISM OUTSIDE OF THE BOND CYCLE, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR BOND CAPACITY ARE THERE WAYS THAT WE CAN CREATE THAT.

I THINK IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW WE CAN GET DONE AND BE HELPFUL IN THAT AREA. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS THERE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR JONES: COUNCILWOMAN KAUR. >> KAUR: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION. MAYOR, I THOUGHT ABOUT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED TOO REGARDING THE RUBRIC AND WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION DURING OUR BRIEFING TOO ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE SO PRESCRIPTIVE ON THE LETTERS OF THE SUPPORT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK AND THEN ON THIS ONE WE'RE REALLY NOT PRESCRIPTIVE AT ALL AND WE LEAVE IT UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE REVIEW COMMITTEE. SO WE HAD THIS EXACT SAME CONVERSATION. AND I GRAPPLED WITH SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING AS WELL. SO I THINK THE CHALLENGE IN THIS SITUATION REALLY IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET. IF YOU LIMIT IT TOO MUCH IT IS HARD TO REALLY ALLOCATE OR REALLY DECIDE WHAT OFFER, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY, WHICH PROJECTS YOU THINK WOULD BE BEST, BUT THE ONE IDEA I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IS IN SOME OF OUR SOLICITATIONS WITH THE SMALL BUSINESSES, WE MENTION GOALS AT THE TOP SO THINKING ABOUT HOW WHEN WE COULDN'T DO SBEDA POINTS ANYMORE, WE COULDN'T ADD PRIORITY POINTS FOR MINORITY AND WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES, WE PUT THEM AS GOALS ON THE TOP OF THE PRIORITIES. SO I KNOW WE LIST HIGH LEVEL ONES FOR THAT HERE AND IS THAT -- IS IT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITHIN A HALF MILE OF VIA AND THINGS

LIKE THAT, IS THAT THE SIMILAR IDEA? >> YES.

SO WE HAVE -- THESE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE PRIORITIZING, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE SOLICITATION. AND WITH A NOTE THAT THAT CATEGORY FALLS UNDER THIS POINT CRITERIA AND HERE'S THE MAXIMUM POINTS YOU COULD

GET FOR IT. >> KAUR: GOT IT. SO YOU COULD PUT IN LIKE ERIK MENTIONED THAT HALF A MILE IS -- HALF A MILE GETS PRIORITY AND HIGHER PRIORITY

FOR QUARTER MILE. >> SURE, YES. WE CAN NOTE THAT.

WE GIVE THAT GUIDANCE TO THE SCORING COMMITTEE AS WELL. >> KAUR: I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I LOOKED UP WHAT HALF A MILE IS, THOUGH.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE GREEN LINE. I LIVE WITHIN HALF A MILE AND I'M LIKE I SHOULD BE ABLE TO WALK. IT'S A KNOWN-MINUTE WALK, BUT -- IT'S A NINE-MINUTE WALK. AND IF YOU THINK OF THE GREEN LINE IT'S BLANCO TO MCCOLLOUGH AND I DO LIKE THAT IT OPENS UP AFTER THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A PLOT THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY LOOKED AT.

BUT YES, I UNDERSTAND THE PUSH THERE ON WALKING DISTANCE.

THE ON OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD IS REGIONAL CENTERS WOULD ALSO BE A GOOD PRIORITY FOR THAT. I KNOW THAT WOULD HELP SOME OF OUR SOUTHSIDE AND NORTHSIDE COLLEAGUES TOO, SO IF WE COULD ADD THAT. IS THAT ALREADY IN THERE.

>> WE DO HAVE THAT AS A TARGET AREA. >> KAUR: SO TIMELINE, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE TIMELINE. DO WE TIE THIS BECAUSE LIHTC APPLICATIONS ARE DUE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR?

HOW DID THIS TIMELINE COME ABOUT? >> IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO LIHTC BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW IF THEY GETTING THE TAX CREDITS, THEY DON'T FIND OUT UNTIL JULY FOR THE NINE PERCENT. BUT THEY WILL KNOW IF THEY APPLIED, WE'LL HAVE A GENERAL IDEA ON THE SCORING COMMITTEE ON WHERE THEY SCORED, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE ALWAYS SURPRISES. BUT REALLY IT'S IN THE INTEREST OF THE FEDERAL DOLLARS. WE JUST GOT THOSE AWARDED, ALTHOUGH WITH A SHUT DOWN WE DON'T PHYSICALLY HAVE THEM YET, BUT WE KNOW HOW MUCH THEY WILL BE FOR THIS YEAR. WE JUST GOT THAT APPROVED FOR OCTOBER, SO THIS MONTH.

THEN WE HAVE THAT -- ALWAYS THAT COGNIZANT POTENTIAL WHERE WE'RE AWARDING AND

SPENDING FEDERAL DOLLARS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. >> KAUR: DID WE GET LESS

CDBG OR WAS IT SIMILAR? >> I THINK OUR CDBG DOLLARS WAS AROUND THE SAME.

>> KAUR: AND WE JUST LOST HOME, RIGHT? >> HOME WENT DOWN A LITTLE

BIT, BUT IT WAS PRETTY LEVEL COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS. >> KAUR: THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. SO THE ONLY REASON I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE TIME 39 IS ESPECIALLY FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OWNERSHIP, IS IT SUFFICIENT

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>> YES. I THINK THAT IS ALL CDBG FUND AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE DOLLARS THAT WE WANT TO SPEND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF OUR CDBG TIMELINESS TEST, WHICH HAPPENS IN JULY OF EVERY YEAR.

>> KAUR: OKAY. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION THEN IS LIKE THE I FOCUS SO MUCH ON RENTAL REHAB, BUT ON SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OWNERSHIP DO WE GIVE EXTRA POINTS FOR COMMUNITY LAND TRUST? SO IF A NON-PROFIT IS GOING TO OWN THE LAND?

>> NOT SURE OURS SPECIFICALLY SAYS COMMUNITY LAND TRUST BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT AND THEY HAVE WE HAVE THE SPECIFIC COMMUNITY LAND

TRUST UNDER RFP RIGHT NOW? >> KAUR: SO FOLKS COULD APPLY SEPARATELY?

>> THEY COULD. >> KAUR: AND I LOOKED UP 80% AMI FOR A FAMILY OF THREE IS ABOUT 1700 RENT SO THAT'S APPROXIMATELY A 200K HOME THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, RIGHT? SO OUR FOLKS SAYING THAT WE'RE -- ARE FOLKS SAYING WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THESE LEVEL HOMES AND ENSURE THE FOLKS LIVING IN THERE IS 80%

AMI, IS THAT ALL THEY HAVE TO BASICALLY PROVE? >> YES.

AND MOST OF THE HOMES WE'VE INCENTIVIZED WITH EACH OF THE SOLICITATIONS ARE SELLING FROM 165 TO 180,000. AND THE NON-PROFITS THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED THE FUNDS DO LOOK VERY CAREFULLY AT INCOME QUALIFYING THE FAMILIES AND ENSURING THEY MEET THAT INCOME BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE AWARDED IT BASED ON THESE ARE THE FAMILIES 180,000-DOLLAR HOME BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DOWN PAYMENT AND THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING ANY FINANCIAL SUPPORT IT STILL MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE.

DO WE BRIDGE THE GAP TO SEE IF IT ACTUALLY GOES TO SOMEONE?

ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT THE HOUSE VALUE? >> WE ARE LOOKING AT THE -- THE DEVELOPER IS INCOME-QUALIFYING THE FAMILY.

IN MANY CASES -- I CAN GO AHEAD AND HIGHLIGHT, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY OR EVEN OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO, THEY MAY HAVE THEIR OWN INCENTIVE PROGRAMS TO HELP FAMILIES WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, IN SOME CASES THEY'RE ALSO CONNECTING THEM WITH OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

WE HAVE DOWN PAYMENT FOR FAMILIES AT 120% AMI, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A PROGRAM FOR SPECIFICALLY 80% AND BELOW AND THAT CAN OFFER FAMILIES UP TO $30,000 WITH CLOSING COSTS. ARRESTS AND FOR HOME OWNERSHIP WE DON'T HAVE DIA IS THAT BECAUSE WE EXPECT THE FAMILY THAT'S LIVE THERE TO CONTINUE LIVING THERE?

>> YES. DIRECT DISPLACEMENT DISQUALIFIES YOU FROM HOUSING BOND DOLLARS OR OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS. AND SINCE THE HOME IS LOCATED WHERE IT IS, WE CAN'T REALLY -- WE COULD ASSESS THE VULNERABILITY, BUT IT'S MEANT TO GIVE THE SCORING COMMITTEE INPUT BEFORE THOSE AWARDS ARE

MADE? >> KAUR: OKAY. LAST QUESTION ON THE HOME OWNERSHIP. HAVE WE EVER CONSIDERED ALLOWING FOR CONDO USE?

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. I CAN'T SAY THAT WE'VE

GOTTEN ANY PROPOSALS FOR THAT, THOUGH. >> KAUR: INTERESTING.

OKAY. JUST MAYBE WE SPECIFY IT. IF SOMEONE IS TRYING TO BUILD LIKE A FOUR-UNIT, LIKE GOING BACK TO THE DENSITY POINT, RIGHT? IF SOMEONE IS TRYING TO BUILD SMALLER UNITS, BUT THAT WOULD STILL WORK UNDER HOME OWNERSHIP AND THEY COULD STILL SELL THEM FOR MAYBE 100,000 EACH IN A LARGER FOURPLEX, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING MODEL IF WE SPECIFIED AND BE

OPEN TO IT. >> SURE. WE COULD NOTE THAT WE'RE

OPEN TO CREATIVE MODELS. >> KAUR: IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. AND THEN THE LAST COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAD FOR JUST THE RENTAL IS I WAS THINKING ABOUT LIKE POINTS AND SUCH THAT WE'RE PROVIDING -- I LOST MY THOUGHT ON THAT. I'LL GO TO THIS POINT. COUNCILMAN MUNGIA MENTIONED THE REVIEW OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK -- I'M LOOKING AT NUMBERS. SO WE'VE DONE 5,000 FROM THE HOUSING BOND.

SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST TRUST UNITS ARE SIMILAR -- ARE THE SAME ONES RECEIVING HOUSING BOND DOLLARS.

SO IT WOULD BE GREAT, I LOVE THE SHIP DASHBOARD, YOU KNOW I LOVE IT, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD IDENTIFY OVERALL IN THE COMMUNITY WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS WHO HAS DEVELOPED WHAT AND MAYBE THERE'S LIKE AN ASTERISKS IF IT WAS A HOUSING BOND OR SOMETHING SO WE CAN SEE THE IMPACT OVERALL IN THE LAST -- SINCE SHIP HAS STARTED OF WHAT THE IMPACT WAS. BUT THE OTHER REALLY BIG THING I STRUGGLE WITH, AND THIS GOES TO THE DOLLARS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SET ASIDE FOR LAND BANKING. I USED TO SIT UP HERE AND BE LIKE LAND BANKING IS THE

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I'VE SHIFTED MY PERSPECTIVE ON THAT BECAUSE IF WE'RE HOPING THAT THE -- IF WE'RE HOPING ANYONE IS GOING TO GIVE US MONEY WE SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO PUT DOLLARS THERE, RIGHT? AND SO UNLESS WE CAN DO FOUR PERCENT DEALS, THE NINE PERCENT DEALS WE SHOULDN'T LAND BANK. ANYWAYS, ALL OF THAT TO SAY I'D LOVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE PER-DOOR COST OF A 30% UNIT IF WE'RE JUST FUNDING SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT? WHAT IS THE COST -- THE ADDITIONAL COST TO DO UNIVERSAL DESIGN? HOW MUCH ARE WE PUTTING ON THE DEVELOPER? LIKE IF WE WANT TO DO UNIVERSAL DESIGN, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST? IF WE WANT 50% ADA UNITS, WHICH THE HOUSING TRUST ASKS FOR NOW, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL ARE WE ASKING TO PUT INTO THE DEAL, RIGHT? I'M TRYING TO BREAK DOWN WHAT THE SPECIFIC COSTS ARE SO THEN WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION? IF WE HAVE TO GIVE UP FIVE PERCENT ADA UNITS, BUT CAN GET ANOTHER 10%, 30% AMI UNITS, WOULD WE SUPPORT THAT? AND THAT'S A -- MONEY'S UNFORTUNATELY FINITE, SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION I THINK WE HAVEN'T HAD THE ABILITY TO DO. WE JUST SAY THESE ARE ALL THE PRIORITIES, BUT I THINK EVEN WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THIS, IF YOU CAN COME BACK TO US AND SAY, LIKE, THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE SAW IN TERMS OF COSTS, BECAUSE IT'S ALSO TRICKY BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT FOR HOW MUCH MONEY THEY NEED. SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO DIFFERENTIATE WHAT A 30% UNIT COSTS. [BUZZER]. MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A CONSULTANT OR SOMEONE FIGURE THAT OUT. I WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTED

IN THAT. THANKS, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JONES: THANKS, COUNCILWOMAN. TO THAT POINT, RIGHT -- ACTUALLY, LET ME JUST -- THE IDEA OF UNDERSTANDING HOW MUCH EACH OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ARE GOING TO COST IS IMPORTANT AND WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE THAT BECAUSE IT DOVETAILS NICELY AND ENABLES THEM TO ALSO ALLOW TO US HAVE A MORE STRATEGIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TIRZ, RIGHT? RESOURCES THAT WE ARE FOREGOING THAT IN THEORY COULD COME BACK AND DO EXACTLY SOME OF THIS STUFF.

OKAY, GREAT. COUNCILWOMAN MEZA GONZÁLEZ. >> GONZÁLEZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, VERONICA FOR ALL THE WORK YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE DOING. I THINK WE REALLY DO STAND OUT WHEN WE THINK OF WHAT OTHER BIG CITIES ARE DOING WITH HOUSING AND HOUSING BOND DOLLARS, SO COMPARED TO FORT WORTH-DALLAS, AUSTIN, WE'RE DOING A LOT.

SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE DOING EVERYDAY.

I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS ON I THINK IT WAS SLIDE 8.

ON THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR HOME OWNERSHIP, I KNOW WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT MORE REHAB AND MORE MULTI-FAMILY, SO IF YOU CAN KIND OF EXPAND ON THAT POINT ON WHY THAT'S

GOING TO HOME OWNERSHIP PRODUCTION? >> SURE.

WE ONLY HAVE 2.3 MILLION SET ASIDE. THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE THE HOUSING BOND ONLY HAD FIVE MILLION FOR HOME OWNERSHIP AND WE'VE ALLOCATED AND COMMITTED ALL OF THAT. SO ALL WE HAVE LEFT ANNUALLY FOR HOME OWNERSHIP IS FEDERAL DOLLARS. SO THIS YEAR FROM OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS WE HAVE ABOUT SIX, SIX AND A HALF MILLION TOTAL BETWEEN HOME AND CDBG, SO THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF THAT THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR HOME OWNERSHIP PRODUCTION.

WE REALLY PRIORITIZE THE FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR RENTAL BECAUSE WE NEED MORE 30% UNITS AND THOSE ONLY COME FROM THE RENTAL. SO IT'S A SET ASIDE FOR HOME OWNERSHIP. WE WANT TO CONTINUE INCENTIVIZING HOME OWNERSHIP BECAUSE THAT'S GENERATIONAL WEALTH. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NEW HOUSING PRODUCT THAT'S BEING BUILT IN THIS PRICE POINT WITHOUT OUR INCENTIVES.

REALLY DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BUILDING HOUSING STARTER HOMES FOR FAMILIES. SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO INCENTIVIZE IT AND THAT'S WHETHER WE MENTION THAT WHILE IT IS A LIMITED FUND AMOUNT, IF WE DO IDENTIFY SOME SAVINGS IN FEDERAL FUNDS FROM OTHER PROJECTS, WE WOULD PRIORITIZE THIS

CATEGORY. >> GONZÁLEZ: OKAY, GREAT. AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE ASSISTANCE YOU ALL OFFER --K IT'S CALLED, HIP80. HOW MANY FOLKS COME THROUGH

AND ASK FOR THAT ASSISTANCE? >> YES. SO --

>> GONZÁLEZ: DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THAT? >> YES.

I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE HOW MUCH WE SET ASIDE FROM OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR HIP, 80, AND AGAIN IT'S FOR 80% AMI OR BELOW. I THINK IT'S AROUND TWO TO THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR WE HAVE FOR THAT DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. WE ALSO UTILIZE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS TO OFFER DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FOR FAMILIES AT A HIGHER INCOME. THAT'S 120% AMI OR BELOW.

SO IN TOTAL EVERY YEAR WE SET ASIDE ABOUT I THINK IT'S MAYBE EIGHT OR 900,000 A YEAR BETWEEN THOSE TWO DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. I HAVE TO GET THE BREAKDOWN

FOR EACH ONE. >> GONZÁLEZ: AWESOME. THAT'S REALLY IT.

I DID JUST WANT TO MAKE A REFERENCE TO -- THIS IS FOR THE HOUSING TRUST.

I RECENTLY VISITED VALOR HILL APARTMENTS. REALLY A UNIQUE CREATIVE PROJECT, HONESTLY, AND ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR VETERANS AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

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OR MULTI-FAMILY VETERANS? >> SOME VETERAN-FOCUSED HOUSING COMMUNITIES... I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE ONE THAT COMES TO MIND SPECIFICALLY FOR VETERANS

THAT WE'VE USED OUR INCENTIVES TO. >> GONZÁLEZ: OKAY.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> SURE.

BUT WE DO NOTE IN THE RFP THAT'S A SPECIAL POPULATION CATEGORY.

>> MAYOR JONES: AND COUNCILMAN MUNGIA IS ALSO LEADING THE TASK FORCE THAT IS LOOKING AT INCREASING THE OPTIONS FOR CERTAIN KINDS OF GROUPS THAT TRADITIONALLY HAVE BEEN UNDERSERVED WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

VETERANS, PARTICULARLY THOSE AROUND THE VA, LBGTQ YOUTH, SENIORS, AND THOSE WITH DISABILITIES. SO FOR YOUR EDIFICATION. COUNCILMAN WHYTE.

>> WHYTE: THANKS, MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF. I THINK MY COLLEAGUES COVERED IT. I WANT TO BEGIN MY THANKING CITY STAFF THIS MORNING.

WE WERE AT THE RIBBON CUTTING OF A NEW PROJECT, AFFORDABLE PROJECT IN DISTRICT 10, VILLAGE AT THE LOOP. AND IT WAS A PROJECT THAT ACTUALLY TOOK ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO GET DONE, AND REALLY REMARKABLE, PROSPERA, GALAXY BUILDERS, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WAS INVOLVED AS WELL, AND IT REALLY TOOK A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT FROM A LOT OF -- IT CAN BE GOOD. THANK IT WAS GREAT TO BE THERE AND OUR CITY FOLKS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN MAKING IT HAPPEN. REALLY ENJOYED THAT. MY ONLY QUESTION IS THIS: IS THE CITY TRACKING ANY OUTCOMES RELATED TO BROADER COMMUNITY BENEFITS FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TERMS OF LOCAL JOB GROWTH, WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION, OTHER ECONOMIC INDICATORS REFLECTING, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY BENEFITS OR

NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE CHECKING THAT DATA YET BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF OUR SHIP RECALIBRATION AND SEE WHAT DATA THERE IS AVAILABLE. NOW THAT WE HAVE FIVE YEARS OF TRACKING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING INVESTMENTS AND WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE OUR CITY DOLLARS HAVE GONE AND WHAT WE'VE INCENTIVED AND OUR SPECIFIC FOCUS ON DEEPLY AFFORDABLE, I THINK WE CAN SEE WHAT DATA WE CAN PULL TOGETHER TO HELP HIGHLIGHT THAT.

>> WHYTE: WE ALL KNOW SOMETIMES THAT THESE ARE DIFFICULT PROJECTS TO SELL TO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. WE ALL KNOW THIS, RIGHT? AND SOMETHING MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT HOW JUST BECAUSE IT'S AN AFFORDABLE PROJECT SHOULDN'T MEAN THAT IT'S LOW QUALITY. AND DEALING WITH HOW SOME OF THESE GET REALLY RUN DOWN AND THERE'S BAD THINGS GOING ON AT THE PROPERTIES.

TO THE EXTENT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AND TO THE EXTENT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE DATA TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THESE PROJECTS, I THINK WILL MAKE IT EASIER ON ALL OF US WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL VALUE OF AN AFFORDABLE PROJECT IN OUR

DISTRICT. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> WHYTE: THAT'S ALL I'VE

GOT. THANKS, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JONES:

COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN. >> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, VERONICA AND TEAM FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I WAS -- THE YEAR WAS 2001.

I WAS TEMPING WITH THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING ASSOCIATION AND I REMEMBER THEY HAD TORN DOWN THE COURTS RIGHT ACROSS FROM HEMISFAIR. AND THE ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS AND ALL THOSE WORKING IN THAT OFFICE, THEY WERE LIKE HOW ARE WE GOING TO FENCE THE PROPERTY OUT? WHAT'S GOING TO COME? AND THEN WE WOULD SEE, I WOULD BE HERE NOW, 2025, AND SEE HOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THROUGH OPPORTUNITY HOME AND THROUGH THE CITY'S INVOLVEMENT AND THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST, WHICH I AM SUPER PROUD TO BE PART OF.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS PRE-SOLICITATION HERE.

WE KNOW IT'S A HOUSING GAP FUNDING SO WE KNOW MOST OF THEM EITHER HAVE THE HOUSING LINED UP, OR DEPENDING ON THAT 4% OR THAT 9% AND THIS IS JUST THE GAP TO GET THEM OVER THE MARK. AND I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE 2001 AND SINCE WE STARTED MAKING CHANGES, IT HAS BEEN CLEAR, WHATEVER COUNCIL IT IS, THAT WE EXPECT BETTER AND HIGHER QUALITY AND OPPORTUNITY. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT AS WE LOOK AT THIS GAP FUNDING.

THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO BRING BACK, IN TERMS OF THE SLIDE -- WELL, I WANT TO

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IN FORT WORTH FOR THE CONFERENCE -- IT'S LIKE, OH, YEAH.

I CAN WALK TEN MINUTES. NO PROBLEM. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

BUT THAT TEN MINUTES MEANS HAVING TO CROSS A SIX-LANE STREET, IT'S DIFFERENT.

SO I THINK THAT'S -- WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT KIND OF THOSE POINTS AND HOW WE GIVE THOSE POINTS AND DO WE MAX IT OUT FOR THE 15? WHAT IS THE WALKABILITY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? AND TRYING TO GET TRANSPORTATION AND OUR ADVOCATES THAT ADVOCATE FOR CYCLING AND FOR WALKABILITY. IS THIS IN AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK AND BIKE TO THE LINE? IF IT'S NOT, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT GIVES THEM ONE LESS POINT OR ONE MORE POINT, AS WE DO THAT.

SO I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE. I DO WANT TO SEE MOST OF THOSE COMING FORWARD TO HIT THAT 100 OR THAT 90 OR WELL IN THE 80S.

I DON'T WANT 70S. BUT I WANT TO SEE THEM HITTING HIGH INTO THESE POINTS, AS WE DETERMINE THE GAP FUNDING. BECAUSE WE KNOW H HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO GO DOOR BY DOOR TO DO THIS. AND THEN AS WE LOOK AT THE CAP FUNDING IN THE URBAN CORE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO ASK AND LOOK AT -- BECAUSE I LOVE THE IDEA OF DEVELOPING LONE STAR WITH AN ASPECT -- AND DEVELOPING ANYWHERE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WITH THAT ASPECT OF AFFORDABILITY, BUT THEN UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FOR WORKFORCE.

AND DOES WORKFORCE WANT TO -- DO THEY WANT TO LIVE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA OR DO THEY WANT THAT 30-INN BUS RIDE FROM DOWNTOWN OR THAT 25-MINUTE CAR RIDE FROM DOWNTOWN. OR THAT 10-MINUTE CAR RIDE, IF THEY'RE USING A CAR.

I THINK WE NEED TO START ASKING THAT AND USING OUR EMPLOYERS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO START SURVEYING THEIR EMPLOYEES ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

BROOKS, WHICH I LOVE, AND OTHERS ARE LIKE, LET'S LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY ON THE CAMPUS. IF YOU WORK DOWNTOWN -- AND AS MUCH AS I LOVE CITY HALL -- I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY HERE.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU NEED A BREAK. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO START ASKING. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CREATING THIS WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHO ARE WE DOING THAT FOR? AND I THINK IT DEFINITELY WORKS. I THINK WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO COMMUNICATE MORE REGARDING THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AGAIN, I WILL ECHO THAT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS THE KEY BUT $4.2 MILLION LEFT, I NEED WAY MORE THAN THAT. AND YOU KNOW THAT. SO I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING SUCCESSFUL IN THIS HOUSING BOND SO WE CAN BRING ANOTHER HOUSING BOND UP IN THE NEXT BOND ELECTION AND WE CAN SEE THE SUCCESS. I THINK Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING EVERYTHING IN THE TOOLKIT IN TERMS OF HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE WITH THE AMOUNT OF DAYS THAT THIS GOVERNMENT FEDERALLY HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN, IT IS GOING TO MAKE A FISCAL IMPACT. WE'RE SEEING IT THIS HOLIDAY SEASON ALREADY AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT MIGHT BE A ROLLER COASTER LIKE THIS.

BECAUSE EVEN IF IT GETS DONE TODAY -- AND I'M CHECKING MY TEXT MESSAGES, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WE MAY BE BACK HERE IN JANUARY AGAIN. SO, I'M EXCITED TO HEAR THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS' COMMENTS BUT I THINK OUR ROLE HAS BEEN SET, LIKE I

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I CALL IT GOING VERTICAL. BUT REALLY FINDING OUT WHERE THAT WORKS WITHIN THE CITY BECAUSE OF U SHEDS AND WHERE WE NEED TO REHAB AND ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE KNOW CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD AND SEEING THE SHIP GOALS AND OUR HOUSING BOND BE SUCCESSFUL.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: COUNCILMAN

MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. REALLY FASCINATING DISCUSSION FROM EVERYBODY. I'LL START OFF WITH ONE QUICK POINT REGARDING THE DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENT THAT COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN JUST MENTIONED.

WHICH IT WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST CCRS WHEN WE GOT ELECTED, AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT BEING UTILIZED. I DO THINK WE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFECTIVE IN THE WAY THAT WE UTILIZE THE DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENT FOR HOUSING PROJECTS. SPECIFICALLY, I THINK WE SHOULD USE THEM DURING THE SCORING PROCESS, NOT NECESSARILY AFTER THE FACT. I ALSO THINK WE COULD PROBABLY UTILIZE SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION LATER AS A BODY.

SECOND TO THAT, I WOULD WONDER IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO GIVE -- I

GUESS GOING BACK, IF WE GO TO SLIDE 11 -- >> SORRY, COUNCILMAN.

MAY I ADD THAT WE DO PROVIDE THE SCORING COMMITTEE MEMBERS WITH A DISPLACEMENT ANALYSIS BEFORE WE MAKE AWARDS AND LET THEM KNOW IF IT WAS LOW, MEDIUM, OR HIGH RISK. ALL THAT'S BEFORE -- WELL, THEY COULD HAVE PRESCORED BUT IT'S MADE AVAILABLE TO THEM IN ADVANCE AND AT THE MEETING.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THAT'S GOOD NEWS. I APPRECIATE THAT.

LOOKING AT THIS, I THINK GOING BACK TO THE POINT THAT THE MAYOR WAS MAKING, I DO THINK THERE'S VALUE IN -- IF I LOOK AT 30 POINTS, IF I'M ON A SCORING COMMITTEE AND THIS IS THE PRIORITY I'VE BEEN GIVEN, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DISCRETION FOR HOW YOU SCORE THINGS. I MEAN, ASIDE FROM MAYBE THAT 5 POINTS SET ASIDE FOR PUBLIC AND INCOME-BASED HOUSING. IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE HIGHER SCORES LOOKING AT AFFORDABILITY, FOR EXAMPLE. IS THERE A WAY TO GIVE HIGHER SCORES FOR LOWER AMI AT A GREATER VOLUME AND A GREATER PERCENTAGE SIMULTANEOUSLY? CONSIDERING WE'RE MOST BEHIND ON PRODUCTION OF 30% AMI AS WE REACH OUR SHIP GOALS. IS THERE A WAY TO BE STRATEGIC IN HOW WE SCORE, BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS? THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF VALUE IN TEN UNITS WITH TWO OF THOSE BEING 30%.

BUT THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE WOULD GIVE TO EACH OF THOSE IS NOT THE SAME .

AND SO ARE THEY -- >> I KNOW. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I'M TRYING TO -- I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT I'M ASKING IS HOW DO WE CLEARLY PRIORITIZE A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS WITHIN ANY SPECIFIC PROJECT AND THE GREATER VOLUME THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? BECAUSE THE VOLUME IS WHAT'S GOING TO GET US TO OUR SHIP GOALS BUT WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT ANYONE SEEKING PUBLIC FUNDING IS PRIORITIZING AFFORDABILITY AT THE LEVEL THAT WE ARE.

HOW WOULD YOU, HEARING THAT SOMEWHAT CONVOLUTED THOUGHT PROCESS, HOW WOULD YOU RECOMMEND WE DESCRIBE THAT WITHIN THE POINT BREAKDOWN? I THINK WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS A WAY TO COMMUNICATE THIS PRIORITY VERY CLEARLY AND GIVE SOME SORT OF DIRECTION

TO THE SCORING COMMITTEE AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT THOSE. >> IT'S A CHALLENGING QUESTION. IT'S SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT AT LENGTH IN THE SCORING COMMITTEE. BECAUSE WE SEE ALL OF THAT. WE SEE PROJECTS THAT -- I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE SPECIFIC. THIS IS AN 88-UNIT PROJECT. THE WHOLE THING IS PUBLIC HOUSING AND $9 MILLION. IT'S 100% DEEPLY AFFORDABLE. PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SCORED A 30 IN AFFORDABILITY. BUT THE GAP THAT THAT PROJECT NEEDS IS REALLY HIGH

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EVERY PROJECT IS SO UNIQUE. THE ONE WE HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER, SAN PEDRO, HAS 25 SO MUCHERS FOR CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FAMILIES. IT HAD A BIG GAP BUT IT MEETS A LOT OF PARAMETERS WE WERE LOOKING FOR IN A PROJECT.

THEY'RE ALSO DIFFERENT. JUST LIKE WE HAVE 30 POINTS IS THE 5 SET ASIDE, BASED ON YOUR NUMBER OF 30S.

BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE BECAUSE

AUDIO]. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: FOR SURE.

I'M WONDERING IS IT POSSIBLE TO CREATE SOMETHING LIKE A SCORING RUBRIC FOR AFFORDABILITY ALONE? LIKE, IF YOU HAVE -- I THINK THAT TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PROJECT TYPES. IF YOU HAVE -- WHAT'S A SMALL PROJECT TO YOU?

>> LESS THAN 100 UNITS. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: LESS THAN 100, 100 TO 300.

SOME SORT OF RANGE. AND MAYBE WITHIN THAT WE CAN OUTLINE PRIORITIES FOR EACH OF THOSE TYPES. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PROJECTS OF COURSE HAVE GREATER PERCENTAGE OF UNITS AT THE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE. DO YOU THINK THAT'S

POSSIBLE? >> WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS WE HAVE A DIVERSE SCORING COMMITTEE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALLOWING THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO UTILIZE THEIR EXPERTISE, EVALUATE EACH PROPOSAL, AND REALLY HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY ON HOW THEY WANT TO SCORE.

AND SCORE THEM AGAINST EACH OTHER. IT'S POSSIBLE TO GIVE A RUBRIC TO A COMMITTEE MEMBER WHERE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE A PROJECT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF AFFORDABILITY POINTS. BUT THAT COULD BE YIELDING A PRETTY LOW NUMBER OF UNITS FOR THE GAP FUNDING THAT THAT PROJECT IS REQUESTING.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET. AND WE ALWAYS RESERVE THE

RIGHT NOT TO AWARD FUNDS IF WE'RE NOT SEEING -- >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: FOR SURE. I THINK THAT CONVERSATION WOULD BE GREAT IF THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO MORE DEEPLY DIVE IN. I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THERE IS NOT SOME SORT OF FORMULA, SOMETHING THAT CAN DO WHAT WE'RE ASKING. IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE?

>> WE DID RAISE THE MINIMUM ON THE LAST SCORING ROUND. IT USED TO BE A MINIMUM OF 10%. NOW WE RAISED THAT THRESHOLD TO 15%.

SO WE'RE ALREADY REQUIRING ALL PROJECTS TO DO MORE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS.

THAT WILL RESULT -- WE SAW THAT ON THE LAST ROUND. THEY HAVE BIGGER GAPS BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO MEET THAT NEW THRESHOLD. WE HAVE FEWER FUNDS IN THIS ROUND THAN AVAILABLE IN PREVIOUS ROUNDS. THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND. WE'RE LAYERING A LOT OF ASKS FOR OUR PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO DO THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CHEAP HOUSING.

WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY INCENTIVE QUALITY HOUSING IN TARGET AREAS.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, REGARDING PRE-K, THAT'S RELATIVELY RECENT IN YEARS THAT WE HAVE SEEN PROJECTS COME TO COUNCIL AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT SEVERAL OF US ARE EXCITED ABOUT. BUT THEN I WONDER -- I GUESS WHAT I'M WANTING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THERE IS WE HAVE SEEN PROJECTS THAT HAVE PRE-K BE GENERALLY ACCEPTED BUT THEN WE HAVE SEEN PRE-K THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS BE A LITTLE BIT LESS SO AND LESS FAVORABLE.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESCRIPTIVE OF? WE WANT HIGHER SCORES TO APPLICANTS WHO PARTNER WITH A LOCAL PUBLIC SCHOOL ISD FOR THEIR PRE-K? THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD BE INTERESTED?

>> SURE. WE CAN SHARE THE WRITEUP WE'RE PLANNING TO PUT IN THE RFP. IT USED TO JUST SAY PRE-K. BUT WE HAVE HAD COUNCIL FEEDBACK LOOKING FOR A HIGHER STANDARD. THAT'S WHY WE'VE COORDINATED WITH PRE-K 4 SA AND WHY WE DETAIL WHAT THAT STANDARD IS, WHAT THOSE ACCEPTABLE ACCREDITATIONS ARE AND TRYING TO LINE UP, NOT JUST ANY PRE-K, BUT A CERTAIN

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STANDARD OF PRE-K EDUCATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: GOTCHA. I THINK I DID HEAR HIGHER QUALITY -- I REMEMBER THE MAYOR EMPHASIZING THAT POINT ON THURSDAY. WAS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANT

TO SAY? >> WALSH: I'LL WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE DOWN, COUNCILMAN.

I WAS GOING TO GO BACK TO YOUR EARLIER POINT. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR ME. WHEN IT COMES TO THE LAND ACQUISITION, I HAVE BEEN IN MY LAND-BUYING BAG SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY I COULD BE HELPFUL OR YOU COULD HELP ME, I WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF THAT.

>> WALSH: MAYOR, I WAS JUST -- BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE RUBRIC OR MATRIX. I THINK THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT WE COULD DO A SOLICITATION FOR 30% AMI. EASY. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BLEND AND FIND HOW WE INCENTIVIZE MORE AFFORDABILITY AT THE 30% AND TO GET THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS. BUT IT'S ALSO A MIX. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, VERONICA. PART OF THIS IS BEING INFORMED BY JUST TWO YEARS AGO WE DIDN'T DO SOLICITATIONS LIKE THIS. WE HAD NEVER DONE SOLICITATIONS LIKE THIS. SO WE'VE KIND OF LEARNED WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND WHAT THE PRODUCTS ARE THAT WE GET PUT IN FRONT OF US. AND BUT I ALSO THINK THAT FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION DOWN THE ROAD, IF IT IS TRULY ABOUT DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEN WE STRUCTURE AN RFP OR A SOLICITATION FOR JUST THAT.

A LOT OF THAT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MONEY IS THERE. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THE HALF MILE OR A QUARTER MILE EXAMPLE THAT THE MAYOR AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT. THERE IS A WAY TO PRIORITIZE IT.

CLEARLY YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, MORE THAN JUST YOU, ARE TALKING ABOUT WHOEVER'S GOT THE MOST NUMBER OF 30% UNITS IN A PROPOSAL SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE POINTS THAN THE ONE THAT BARELY HITS THE 15% OR 16%. AND I THINK YOU'RE HEARING THAT LOUD AND CLEAR. BUT FOOD FOR THOUGHT DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE WANT TO START BEING MORE TARGETED WITH SOLICITATIONS, THEN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF BEING THAT. BEING MORE TARGETED AND NOT SO OPEN AND BROAD.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I KNOW THE CLOCK STOPPED, MAYOR, BUT IF I MAY.

THIS DOES FEEL LIKE MONEY THAT WE KEEP ALLOCATING DURING THE SOLICITATION.

WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE AND IT KEEPS COMING BACK BECAUSE PROJECTS ARE FALLING THROUGH. I AM WONDERING IF ANYTHING HAPPENS -- WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED ABOUT THAT THAT IS GOING TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL, IS ONE QUESTION.

SECOND, SHOULD ANYTHING HAPPEN THAT BRINGS MONEY BACK TO THE TABLE FOR A FUTURE RFP, DO WE JUST DO THAT WHERE WE'RE VERY SIMPLE?

>> WALSH: I THINK WE SEE -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- PART OF THIS IS FEDERAL MONEY FROM THIS YEAR. PART OF IT IS MONEY THAT WASN'T ALLOCATED IN PREVIOUS SOLICITATIONS. A LITTLE BIT OF IT, I THINK.

AND THE REST OF IT WAS HOUSING DOLLARS WE STILL HAD AVAILABLE.

IF WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WE HAVE MONEY OF THE $16 MILLION WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING, I THINK THAT'S PROPOSAL TO DO 100 FEET FROM THE GREEN AND SILVER LINE, 30% AMI.

AND WE WORK ON THAT. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU GET IN TERMS OF THE SOLICITATION. BUT IN EVERY CASE, I THINK, EVERY CASE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD

MONEY LEFT OVER. >> AND EVERY CASE, FOR RENTAL HOUSING SPECIFICALLY.

MORE ASKS THAN MONEY AVAILABLE. FOR PSH WE HAD SUCH A LIMITED AMOUNT, WE DID NOT GET QUALIFIED PROPOSALS. IN THE REHAB, WE HAVE MONEY STILL, MOSTLY BECAUSE PROJECTS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SECURE ALL OF THEIR FINANCING OR THEY WERE DISQUALIFIED FOR OTHER REASONS.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I DIDN'T WRITE THAT DOWN. COMING BACK TO US LATER FOR THAT DISCUSSION. COULD YOU MAKE SURE IN THE POST-SOLICITATION THAT IF THERE IS MONEY LEFT OVER OR THAT YOU'RE NOT RECOMMENDING, THAT THAT BE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER? MEMORIES ARE SHORT.

>> WALSH: YEP. THAT'S WHY GOD MADE CITY MANAGERS.

HE WILL REMEMBER. >> MAYOR JONES: VERONICA, TO THE EXTENT IT DOES HELP US FOR NEXT TIME, THIS ROUND, COULD WE TRY WITHIN THAT 30-POINT BUCKET TO DO THIS INCREMENTAL PIECE. SO IF WE DID 15 AT 30% AMI OR BELOW, PLUS 5.

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>> WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, MAYOR. I WOULD CAUTION FOR SMALLER PROJECTS THAT MAY GO BEYOND THAT 15% THRESHOLD, WE MAY BE SCORING THEM HIGHER AND

THEY MAY HAVE FEWER UNITS. >> MAYOR JONES: WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE MINIMUM NUMBER THAN AT EACH OF THOSE LEVELS THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE?

THAT GETS TO WHAT SEVERAL OF US HAVE ALLUDED TO. >> IF A PROJECT IS GOING BEYOND THE 15%, MAYBE THERE IS A SET ASIDE, BUT THAT WE ALLOW THE COMMITTEE TO BALANCE MAYBE THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, WHICH CAN MAYBE BE CONSIDERED AFFORDABILITY, FOR THAT INCREASED THRESHOLD.

I THINK WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN PREVIOUS SOLICITATIONS -- AND COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN ALLUDED TO THIS. MOST OF THESE PROJECTS, THEY'RE JUST NEEDING OUR GAP FUNDING TO BE FEASIBLE. THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR THE STATE TAX CREDITS.

THEY HAVE OTHER EQUITY PARTNERS IN LINE AND THIS IS THE GAP THAT THEY HAVE.

SO IF WE WANT THEM TO DO MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS, IT'S POSSIBLE BUT THEIR GAP WILL BE HIGHER AND WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT. BUT FOR THE REALLY MORE DENSE PROJECTS, THE 300-PLUS UNITS, FOR THEM TO HAVE MORE UNITS AT THAT 30% AMI AND REALLY GO BEYOND THAT THRESHOLD, THAT GETS MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THEY NEED SO MANY MORE TO GET UP TO 20%, FOR EXAMPLE, A

>> MAYOR JONES: ALLOW FOR THE COMMISSION TO HELP US DECIPHER WHAT MAKES SENSE.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR, AGAIN, THE 5 FOR THE MINIMUM OF 15 AND

THEN THE 5 FOR 20 AND 5 FOR 25. >> OKAY.

>> MAYOR JONES: COUNCILMAN KAUR. >> KAUR: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AS FOLKS WERE TALKING, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S PASSIONATE FOR ALL OF US. WE BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LOT.

I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE WE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU GUYS DO SO MUCH, AND THE FAIR HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE. IT'S A HARD CHALLENGE. WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO GET GOOD PROJECTS. BUT I WAS THINKING THEY ARE THEMSELVES THE ONES SAYING HOW MUCH GAP FUNDING THEY NEED. COULD WE GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE WITH THEM? BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES IDENTIFYING HOW MUCH FUNDING THEY NEED. COULD WE SAY WE HAVE RECEIVED THIS PROJECT.

IF WE CAME BACK AND SAID WE'LL GIVE YOU AN EXTRA $10,000 FOR THESE 50% AMI UNITS PER DOOR TO GO DOWN TO 40% AMI UNITS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE

NORMALLY DO OR CAN DO? >> WE DO MAKE EACH PROJECT GO THROUGH UNDERWRITING SO WE CAN LOOK AT HOW MUCH MORE PROJECT WE NEED TO ADD MORE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS.

THAT'S ONE THING WE COULD LOOK AT. THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING RECOMMENDATION.

OR WHEN WE GO TO COUNCIL, TRY AND SEE WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL AMOUNT COULD BE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE FOR. WE LOOK AT OPTIONS.

>> KAUR: TO COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ'S POINT WITH VOLUME.

PARTICULARLY FOR THE LARGER PROJECTS, EVEN THE RENTAL REHAB.

I KNOW THE SMALLER PROJECTS ARE HARDER ON THIS. BUT IT'S FOR THEM, IT'S MAKING THE BUDGET WORK OUT. SO IF WE COULD SAY WE'LL GIVE THIS ONE PROJECT MORE MONEY BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE VOLUME OF IT, WE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION ON HERE. I KNOW IT'S HARD BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE BRINGING US WHAT YOU RECOMMEND AND WE'RE LIKE, CAN YOU BRING US A MIDWAY POINT SO WE CAN GIVE FEEDBACK? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE COULD -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT WAY WOULD BE. BUT AFTER WE SEE WHAT PROJECTS WE GET IF WE COULD GO BACK AND SAY -- OR WE COULD EVEN DO A SIDE BY SIDE. THIS IS OUR DISCRETIONARY POINTS AND THIS IS -- LET'S TAKE THE LIHTC RUBRIC. THESE ARE THE POINTS THEY WOULD GET SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THE TWO RESULTS SHOW. IF WE USED OUR DISCRETION AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS, THESE ARE THE RUBRIC SCORES THAT YOU GUYS SEE. AND THEN IF WE HAD A MORE FIXED RUBRIC, LIKE WE DO FOR LIHTC, THIS IS WHAT THEY WOULD SCORE.

AND WE COULD USE THAT AS A TEST ON THIS ROUND TO SEE WHAT COMES BACK SO WE CAN THEN TRULY SEE THE IMPACT. I KNOW THAT'S DOUBLE THE WORK BUT --

>> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR RECOMMENDATION. IS TO CREATE TWO DIFFERENT

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SCORING CRITERIAS? >> IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, SCORE BASED ON

THIS CRITERIA -- >> KAUR: YES. >> CREATE A POTENTIAL NEW

RUBRIC -- >> KAUR: MAYBE WE JUST USE THE LIHTC ONE SO IT'S LESS

WORK. >> EITHER/OR AND SCORE ON THOSE.

WE WOULD RECOMMEND BASED ON WHAT WE SHOWED YOU TODAY AND WHAT THAT OTHER WOULD HAVE

DONE? >> KAUR: YES. SO WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION, DO WE WANT TO SHIFT IT, WHAT WOULD THE IMPACT BE.

>> MAYOR JONES: TO BE CLEAR, WHAT I WAS RECOMMENDING IS WE ACTUALLY LET THE MARKET TELL US HOW THEY WOULD RESPOND IF THEY WERE PRESENTED WITH, HEY, IF YOU DID THIS, YOU'LL GET MORE POINTS. IF YOU DID THIS, YOU ALSO GET MORE POINTS. BEING VERY CLEAR NOW SO THAT ACTUALLY HELPS INFORM, IF WE WANTED TO DO A SEPARATE ONE OF THESE MOVING FORWARD, WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE DATA.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HYPOTHESIZE. BUT ALLOWING THE COMMITTEE TO USE THEN THEIR 10 POINTS OF DISCRETION, TO VERONICA'S POINT.

THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THE COMMITTEE MIGHT RECOMMEND ACTUALLY IT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BASED ON THE UNFORESEEN CONSEQUENCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JUST BASED ON HOW THE MARKET RESPONDS.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO SEE HOW THE MARKET RESPONDS AND NOT GUESS. SO ALLOWING THE 5 FOR THE MINIMUM OF 15%.

5 FOR 20. AND THEN 5 FOR 25. 10%, A THIRD OF THAT BEING DISCRETIONARY IS HIGH AND ALLOWS THE COMMISSION TO DO THEIR JOB.

>> KAUR: I HEAR YOU, MAYOR. I GUESS MY RECOMMENDATION WAS MORE LIKE A LET'S USE THIS AS A PILOT SO IT STILL GIVES CITY STAFF THE ABILITY TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO PUT AN ASTERISK SAYING WE'RE USING THIS RUBRIC IN ADDITION, AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT. I'M NOT SURE. JUST TO KEEP THAT OPEN TO FOLKS THAT ARE SUBMITTING. SO THEY KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT TYPES COME IN.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A BALANCE THAT WORKS. OKAY.

THANKS. >> MAYOR JONES: COUNCILMAN MUNGIA.

>> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.

I THINK IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO SLIDE 11, PLEASE. I THINK WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF LOOKING AT THIS FROM A VERY ORGANIZED VIEW ON OUR SIDE OF THE TABLE SAYING THESE ARE THE POINTS WE WANT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT OUT OF A PROJECT, XYZ.

THE PEOPLE LIVE IN A MUCH MORE CHAOTIC ENVIRONMENT AND ECONOMY THAN WE DO.

WHAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON IS THE OUTCOME GOALS THAT WE HAVE OF THIS.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE INPUTS AND OUTPUTS OF THE SCORING CRITERIA.

BUT I THINK -- COURSE PRIORITIZE 30% AMI, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT DATA. THIS IS GAP FINANCING. WE'VE DONE SO MANY OTHER RFPS AHEAD OF THIS THAT PROBABLY LOOK DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. ESPECIALLY WITH GAP FINANCING, THEY HAVE ALREADY GONE TO THEIR LENDER AND THEY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE AMI LEVEL IS VERSUS SOME OF THOSE OTHER RFPS WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR PROJECT BASED ON OUR RFP, WHICH IS A HIGHER, 30% THRESHOLD. I THINK SOME OF THIS DEFINITELY NEEDS TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS FURTHER AND KIND OF COMPARE AND CONTRAST WHAT THAT IS. BUT ULTIMATELY THE OUTCOME HAS GOT TO BE MORE 30% UNITS IN GENERAL AND IT'S GOING TO MEET THE SHIP GOALS. WHATEVER THAT POINT SYSTEM IS IS GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE OUTCOMES WE HAVE BEEN SEEING.

I WOULD JUST ADD THAT PERSPECTIVE FOR US TOO. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. >> MAYOR JONES: HAS EVERYONE SPOKEN THAT WOULD LIKE TO? OKAY. OH, ONE MORE?

COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I GUESS JUST TO -- SO I REALIZED A PROBLEM AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS.

OF COURSE, WE WANT TO COMMUNICATE TO APPLICANTS WHAT THE RUBRIC IS GOING TO BE PRIOR TO THEM SUBMITTING. I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO I GUESS JUST BASED OFF OF FEEDBACK, USE WHATEVER RUBRIC OR WHATEVER STANDARD YOU'RE GOING TO USE.

BUT I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN, IF WE COULD HAVE -- IF WE CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILWOMAN KAUR WAS SAYING. MAYBE WE TAKE -- IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HEARD CONSENSUS THAT WE WANT TO SEE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF UNITS AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HIGHER POINTS FOR THAT, LET THAT BE THE RUBRIC.

IF NOT, LET THIS BE THE RUBRIC AND WHATEVER IS THE OPTION, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF WE HAD CHANGED IT. LIKE WHAT COUNCILWOMAN KAUR WAS SAYING. LET US SEE WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

IDEALLY, WHAT I WOULD HOPE FOR IS THERE'S IS STARK CONTRAST.

I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE SAME RESULT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE CHALLENGING FOR US TO SEE, JUST AS AN EXPERIMENT. BUT IF NOT, I GUESS WE HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER WAY. I GUESS, I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT.

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WITH THE ALTERNATIVE. >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THIS IS THE RUBRIC WE BASE OUR FUNDING AWARDS ON OR THE COMMITTEE WOULD USE. WE CAN USE THIS ONE AND WE CAN HAVE, AS THE MAYOR REQUESTED, SPECIFIC POINTS SET ASIDE FOR THE PROPORTION OF UNITS THAT GO ABOVE 30%. WE COULD MAKE THAT CLEAR IN THE RFP AND GIVE THAT GUIDANCE TO THE COMMITTEE. WE COULD THEN ALSO USE THE OTHER RUBRIC TO JUST KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT IT COULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE, WHICH MAY INFORM FUTURE FUNDING ROUNDS. AND, AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT STILL COMES TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. SO IF THIS RUBRIC DOES NOT RESULT IN PROJECTS THAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO FUND, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO NOT FUND ALL OF THE PROJECTS

THAT THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M ASKING. TO BE CLEAR, I'M IN FAVOR OF UTILIZING THE RUBRIC AS OUTLINED AND AS YOU JUST DISCUSSED WITH THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL.

AND THEN WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A RESULT, IN ADDITION TO THAT, IS WHAT

WOULD HAVE HAPPENED HAD WE NOT MADE THOSE CHANGES. >> OKAY.

>> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: PERFECT. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR JONES: I WILL JUST SAY THAT WILL BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE RESPONDED TO THE INCENTIVE. AND IT'S HARD TO SAY HOW

THEY WOULD HAVE RESPONDED IF THAT INCENTIVE WASN'T THERE. >> YES.

BUT WE WILL HAVE THE CLEAR POINTS SET ASIDE, IF YOU DO 20%, YOU'LL GET THE EXTRA 5 POINTS. THOSE INCENTIVES WILL BE VERY CLEAR.

>> MAYOR JONES: GREAT. WERE YOU GOING TO ADD SOMETHING?

GO AHEAD. >> KAUR: [INDISCERNIBLE] >> NO PROBLEM.

>> MAYOR JONES: ONE THING THAT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL, VERONICA, FOR US, THE DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE. AS WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING A REALLY HEALTHY, ROBUST LIST OF SUPPLIERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK I WOULD BE INTERESTED, AT THE VERY LEAST, TO UNDERSTAND WHO HAVE THESE TRADITIONALLY GONE TO IN THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, IF PEOPLE ARE GETTING POINTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE IT PREVIOUSLY, THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO GET A LEG UP.

AGAIN, WE WANT TO HELP ENSURE THIS IS AS ROBUST SUPPLY AS IT CAN BE TO BRING

DOWN COSTS OVERALL. >> WE CAN GET YOU A LIST. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: THE NEXT TOPIC IS READY TO WORK.

AS MENTIONED, I ASKED THAT WE HAVE A LEVEL SET ON THIS TOPIC IN GENERAL.

ONE, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ASK TO RECONFIRM THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR ANOTHER FOUR-YEAR PERIOD. MANY OF THOSE FOLKS HAVE SERVED FOR SEVERAL YEARS ALREADY. SO JUST IN THE INTEREST OF BEING SURE, YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS AT THE END WOULD HAVE SERVED FOR SIX OR SEVEN YEARS, THAT'S A LONG TIME.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE READY TO WORK PROGRAM IS REFLECTIVE OF OUR PRIORITIES AND OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S NECESSARY. AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S STOOD UP UNDER COVID, LARGELY. AS WE NOW HAVE DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO INCLUDE THE INCUMBENT WORKER PROGRAM AND THE OJT PROGRAM AND WE HAVE DATA THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS IS -- HOW THIS IS PERFORMING, I WILL JUST SAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS IN LINE WITH THE ROI WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. OR IF WE WOULD WANT TO MODIFY SOME PIECE OF THIS.

OVER TO YOU, ERIK. >> WALSH: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AS THE MAYOR LAID OUT, WE ARE UPDATING THE COUNCIL ON THE READY TO WORK PROGRAM.

TOWARDS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, ALEX WILL GO OVER THE ADVISORY BOARD COMPOSITION, REAUTHORIZATION, AND PROPOSED APPOINTMENTS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.

JUST TO RECAP -- YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS IN MIKE'S PRESENTATION.

WE'VE GOT 3200 PARTICIPANTS IN APPROVED JOBS. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A DOUBLING OF THE PLACEMENTS IN THE LAST YEAR. THE AVERAGE SALARY INCREASE, OVER $33,000 PER PARTICIPANT, IS ROUGHLY AND DIRECT IMPACT $107 MILLION IN WAGES LOCALLY TO OUR ECONOMY. THE MAYOR MENTIONED RETURN ON INVESTMENT. WE ARE UPDATING OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT ANALYSIS THAT WAS INITIALLY DONE FIVE YEARS AGO -- OR FOUR YEARS AGO WITH THE ONSET OF THE PROGRAM. WE HAVE HAD 14,000 RESIDENTS ENROLLED AND MORE THAN 1400 LOCAL EMPLOYERS WHO HAVE HIRED READY TO WORK PARTICIPANTS.

SO WE'LL START OFF THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION WITH BOARD CHAIR BEN PEAVY OF ACCENTURE HERE LOCALLY, WHO WILL SHARE HIS INSIGHTS FROM THE BOARD

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THERE WILL NEED TO BE SOME ACTION TAKEN BY COUNCIL BEFORE THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. TURN IT OVER TO BEN. THANKS FOR BEING HERE, BEN.

>> THANK YOU, ERIK. THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME'S BEN PEAVY. I'M A MANAGING DIRECTOR WITH ACCENTURE.

BEEN WITH THEM FOR 30 YEARS. I'M A LIFELONG SAN ANTONIO RESIDENT AND HAVE BEEN VERY HONORED AND PRIVILEGED TO BE PART OF THE READY TO WORK PROGRAM FROM THE BEGINNING.

SO I'M HERE. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREPARED REMARKS OR ANYTHING. BUT AS ERIK SAID, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I'M HERE. IT'S GREAT TO SEE SOME OF OUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS HERE AND OUR PARTNERS ARE HERE AS WELL AS CITY STAFF.

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM. THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROGRAM THAT IS VERY UNIQUELY SAN ANTONIO. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER CITIES THAT WOULD APPROVED A PROGRAM LIKE THIS TO REALLY HELP OUR MOST NEEDY CITIZENS. YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HEAR THE STATS THAT SAN ANTONIO'S STILL ONE OF THE MOST SEGREGATED -- ECONOMICALLY SEGREGATED CITIES BY ZIP CODE. IT'S VERY TRUE. I ALWAYS LOOK AT THE DASHBOARD AND WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING JOBS ARE FROM OUR DISTRICTS THAT ARE LESS ECONOMICALLY ADVANTAGED.

EVERY DISTRICT HAS AT LEAST 160 PEOPLE THAT HAVE GOTTEN A JOB FROM THIS PEOPLE.

THE HIGHEST, OVER 400. I LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM , ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT FROM THE BEGINNING IS WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT HELPED OUR MOST NEEDY CITIZENS. IT TOOK US A WHILE TO GET IT STARTED BUT WE STARTED A PROGRAM THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE PARTNERS, DIDN'T HAVE THE TRAINING PROVIDERS, DIDN'T HAVE THE EMPLOYERS THAT KNEW WHAT THE HECK WE WERE DOING. AND NOW LOOKING AT THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE, WE HAVE OVER 3200 PEOPLE THAT HAVE GOTTEN A JOB.

ALMOST 1500 EMPLOYERS HAVE HIRED AT LEAST ONE PARTICIPANT.

THAT'S PRETTY COOL. AND SO I WOULD JUST, ONE, WANTED TO START WITH GRATITUDE AND THANKS FOR THE COUNCIL, FOR THE MAYOR, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FOR THIS PROGRAM. BUT I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT WE CONTINUE TO MAKE IT BETTER. LIKE, WE ARE IMPACTING PEOPLE'S LIVES.

WE ARE IMPACTING FAMILIES AND GIVING THEM TRAINING THAT IS GOING TO HELP THEM NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, WELL, THEY'RE INCREASING THEIR SALARY BY $30,000, WHICH IS HUGE. THAT'S JUST FOR ONE NEAR. EXTRAPOLATE THAT FOR TEN YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ON A CAREER PATH THAT THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ON BEFORE IF THEY DIDN'T GET THE TRAINING THEY WERE PROVIDED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM. I WISH THERE WAS MORE POSITIVE PRESS ON THE PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY HARD -- AND I GET TO TALK TO A LOT OF OUR PARTNERS AND BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF AND WE'RE LIKE -- YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR BOARD MEMBERS. THIS ISN'T OUR DAY JOB.

WE DON'T GET PAID TO DO THIS. BUT WE DO IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A HUGE IMPACT. AND THE WAY WE TAKE THE HITS AND WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF HITS, IS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IT'S IMPACTING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO WE KEEP COMING BACK. I REALLY APPRECIATE OUR PARTNERS AND WHAT THEY DO AND THE TRAINING PROVIDERS. BECAUSE THEY REALLY CARE.

AND WE SEE IT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

SHARE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE QUOTE THAT I USED AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE WAS, YOU KNOW, BILL GATES, MOST PEOPLE OVERESTIMATE WHAT YOU CAN DO IN A YEAR AND THEY UNDERESTIMATE WHAT YOU CAN DO IN 10.

I THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE AN EXAMPLE OF WE'RE ALREADY AT 3200 AND YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTIONS AND WE'RE DOING BETTER AND BETTER AND GETTING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE JOBS.

BUT WE'RE ALSO INTENTIONAL AND FOCUSED ABOUT THE TYPES OF JOBS THAT WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE. THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN DEMAND.

THE THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM A BOARD PERSPECTIVE IS WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH GEN AI. PRETTY MUCH SO MANY OF THE JOBS ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THAT . LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENT WE'RE IN NOW WITH THE ECONOMY AND TARIFFS AND BUSINESSES DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO MONTH TO MONTH.

AND THIS PROGRAM HAS THE ABILITY TO BE VERY FLEXIBLE AND NIMBLE TO SAY IF WE DO SEE CHANGES IN DEMAND OR TYPES OF SKILLS THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE NEEDING, WE CAN

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AND IT'S ACROSS THE INDUSTRY. THIS IS A VERY BROAD CROSS-INDUSTRY PROGRAM. WE NEED INPUT FROM MULTIPLE PEOPLE .

AND TALKING TO A LOT OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS -- AND I'M ALSO PART OF THE GREATER SATX EXECUTIVE BOARD AND DIFFERENT MEETINGS. SO MANY TIMES I GO INTO SOME OF THESE MEETINGS AND I TELL THEM I'M THE CHAIR OF READY TO WORK.

IF THEY DON'T -- MOST OF THE BUSINESSES SAY, OH. I HEAR IT'S A TROUBLED PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT SURPRISED, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY HEAR. BUT THEN ONCE WE START TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THE STATS AND THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE MAKING, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THAT SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD.

AND THEN YOU FAST FORWARD NOW AND WE HAVE BUSINESS LEADER LIKE CRAIG FROM H-E-B. AND DAN AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE, LIKE, PARTICIPATING IN OUR SESSIONS OF FIGURING OUT HOW THEY CAN GET BIGGER COHORTS.

THAT'S THE NEW MODEL THAT COPS/METRO WAS REALLY PUSHING FOR.

IF WE GOT THE BUSINESSES INVOLVED EARLIER AND SPECIFIED THE TRAINING FOR THEM, THEN WE'D GET THEM TRAINED AND INTO A JOB QUICKER.

WELL, BUSINESSES ARE ACTUALLY TAKING THE TIME AND MEETING WITH CITY STAFF AND OUR ADVISORY BOARD TO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS AND HAVE THEIR HR PEOPLE CHANGE THE WAY THEY DO THEIR HIRING TO LOOK AT READY TO WORK PARTICIPANTS THAT THEY NEVER DID BEFORE. I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE HIRING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE GROUNDWORK THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS. I'LL STOP THERE BUT IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, AGAIN, WE HAVE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HERE.

WE'D LOVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THIS BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO LEAVE WITH THE MAIN MESSAGE OF THIS PROGRAM'S INCREDIBLE. CAN IT BE BETTER? ABSOLUTELY.

ARE WE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE IT BETTER? WE ARE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE DON'T THROW AWAY THE BABY WITH THE BATHWATER.

THAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE WE WOULD EVER MAKE. SO, I'LL STOP THERE.

>> RAMSEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. SAN ANTONIO READY TO WORK.

WE ALWAYS LOVE TO START THESE PRESENTATIONS WITH THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

THE PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO. TREVOR STARTED WITH READY TO WORK WHEN HE CAME INTO THE PROGRAM MAKING $12 AN HOUR, ABOUT $25,000 A YEAR, ROUGHLY.

HE'S NOW MAKING OVER $55,000 A YEAR WITH HIS NEW JOB AS A RESPIRATORY THERAPIST WITH METHODIST HEALTH CARE. HE WENT TO SCHOOL AT ALAMO COLLEGES.

HIS PARTNER WAS ALSO ALAMO COLLEGES, WHICH IS A UNIQUE CONCEPT THAT A HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTION. THERE ARE NOW THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE LIKE TREVOR BENEFITING FROM THE INVESTMENT THE CITY HAS MADE IN READY TO WORK.

DURING THE MIDST OF THE PANDEMIC. BUT THE PANDEMIC UNCOVERED STUFF THAT WAS ALREADY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. THESE HUGE INCOME INEQUALITY ISSUES THAT THE CITY FACES TODAY. THE DARKER AREAS ON THE MAP ARE THE LOWEST-INCOME AREAS. ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE THE DARKEST AREA REPRESENT THE LOWEST EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT LEVELS. THOSE MAPS MIRROR EACH OTHER NEARLY IDENTICALLY. ON THE RIGHT IT SHOWS THE INCOME-EARNING CAPACITY FOR OUR MSA WITH A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, SOME COLLEGE, NO DEGREE, BACHELOR'S DEGREE.

THE MORE EDUCATION YOU GET THE MORE MONEY YOU EARN, WHICH IS AT THE CORE OF WHY READY TO WORK IS SO IMPORTANT IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHAT DOES IT DO? WE'VE GOT TRAINING, EDUCATION, AND EMPLOYMENT, WHICH IS WHAT THE PROGRAM IS ALL ABOUT. IT'S BUILT UPON WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

THE CITY HAS BEEN PARTNERING WITH PROJECT QUEST FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND TRIED TO REPLICATE MANY OF THE CORE FUNCTIONS OF WHAT MADE PROJECT QUEST GREAT.

THAT WAS THE COACHING AND THE WRAPAROUND SUPPORTS. ALL LEVELS OF CREDENTIALS ARE ABLE TO BE AWARDED THROUGH READY TO WORK. MEANING SHORT-TERM CERTIFICATIONS, ASSOCIATE'S DEGREES, AND BACHELOR'S DEGREE.

MANY PEOPLE STARTED SCHOOL, LIFE HAPPENED, WE WANT TO HELP THEM GET ACROSS THE STAGE WITH THOSE DEGREES. ALL IN LINE WITH EMPLOYER NEEDS.

WE HAVE REFERRALS. WE ARE PART OF THE ALAMO AREA COMMUNITY NETWORK WHERE REFERRALS ARE MADE AVAILABLE THROUGH THAT DATA PLATFORM FOR ALL TYPES OF BARRIERS THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS ANSWERS FOR. UNPRECEDENTED IN SCALE AND

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SO THIS AREA OF READY TO WORK, WE KNOW IS ESSENTIAL FOR US TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE GET ACCESS TO GOOD JOBS. WE HAVE SOME COOL TOOLS, LIKE THE PAY IT FORWARD APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM. COHORTS, WORKING WITH EMPLOYERS. AND ON-THE-JOB TRAINING WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN SOME LATER SLIDES. SO THE MONEY WE HAVE COLLECTED THUS FAR.

$234.9 MILLION WITH INTEREST, IT EQUATES TO 250.8.

YOU CAN SEE OUR SPENDING TO DATE ON THE BOTTOM AND THE PROJECTED SPENDING AT THE END OF THE PROJECT WITH THE INTEREST OF $250.8 MILLION. AND THE PROGRAM IS PROJECTED TO SUNSET IN THE YEAR 2030 WHEN THE FUNDS ARE EXPENDED. OUR PRIME PARTNERS.

I HAVE TO REITERATE, I'M ALWAYS REMINDED BY OUR PARTNERS, THE CITY DOES NOT DO THE WORK DIRECTLY. WE DO NOT CASE MANAGE ANY PARTICIPANTS.

WE DO NOT ENROLL THEM IN EDUCATION AND TRAINING PROGRAMS. THAT WORK IS OUR PARTNERS' WORK. AND MANY OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY. FRANCISCO FROM PROJECT QUEST.

WE'VE GOT KELLY AND JASMINE. THEY BROUGHT ONE OF THEIR PARTICIPANTS, SELENA HERE.

SELENA IS ALSO BENEFITING FROM THE CHILDCARE POLICY. WE KNOW CHILDCARE IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE PRISCILLA, ADRIAN LOPEZ. I SEE TERESA.

WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR OUR PARTNERS, FOR OUR PRIME AGENCIES THAT ARE DOING THE WORK DIRECTLY TO HELP THESE PARTICIPANTS GET THOSE BETTER JOBS.

BACK IN MAY OF 2025, THOSE FOUR BASE PRIME PARTNERS WERE ADDED TO WITH GOODWILL AND HALLMARK COMING ON BOARD WE BELIEVE THE SUCCESS OF GOODWILL AND THE HALLMARK'S SUCCESS IS GOING TO HELP TO BOLSTER THE PROGRAM'S SUCCESS.

SO OUR DASHBOARD. AGAIN, UPDATED DAILY, HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK THAT DASHBOARD OUT. IT IS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM. IT IS UPDATED EVERY WEEKDAY. WE HAVE WON A NATIONAL AWARD FOR DATA TRANSPARENCY FOR THIS LEVEL OF INSIGHT INTO HOW THE PROGRAM IS PERFORMING. THERE'S 14,000 PARTICIPANTS. WHEN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTS WERE ISSUED FOR READY TO WORK, THE GOALS FOR LOFTY AND HIGH OF 28,000 PEOPLE ENROLLED IN TRAINING. WE'RE AT THE HALFWAY POINT NOW WITH 14,000 PEOPLE ENROLLED IN TRAINING, WHICH IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE IN A SHORT TIME-FRAME.

WE'VE GOT OVER 5246 PARTICIPANTS THAT HAVE EARNED A CREDENTIAL THROUGH READY TO WORK. ADDING TO THE EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT LEVELS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 5,212 ADDITIONAL PARTICIPANTS ARE IN TRAINING RIGHT NOW. 3200 HAVE BEEN PLACED IN APPROVED JOBS. THE CITY HAS SET A FLOOR FOR WHAT AN APPROVED JOB IS.

IT'S A FLOOR. IT'S NOT THE GOAL, JUST A FLOOR OF $15 AN HOUR, FULL-TIME WITH BENEFITS. VERIFIED. SO THAT EQUATES TO WHY THE CITY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT PARTICIPANTS AREN'T JUST GETTING ANY JOB, NOT JUST PART-TIME JOBS OR TEMP JOBS OR CONTRACT JOBS THAT DON'T OFFER BENEFITS, BUT JOBS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE LONG TERM.

WHICH IS DIFFERENT WITH HOW YOU SEE WORKFORCE DATA PRESENTED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S INNOVATIVE APPROACH TO THIS. JOB PLACEMENT WITHIN SIX MONTH, 57%. TODAY WE HAVE 58%. WE'RE AT 70% WITHIN 12 MONTHS. 1467 EMPLOYERS HIRING OUR GRADUATES.

AVERAGE HOURLY WAGE, $21.35. COMING INTO THE PROGRAM, THE INDIVIDUAL INCOME OF OUR PARTICIPANTS IS ONLY $11,500, WHICH IS WELL BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.

WE'RE HELPING THOSE PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE MOST IN NEED.

ABOUT HALF OF THE PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE JOBS CAME TO US UNEMPLOYED.

SO WE'RE REALLY HELPING THOSE PEOPLE WHO CAN TRULY BENEFIT THE MOST FROM THIS WORK. AND THEY'RE MAKING ABOUT $44,700, A $33,000 INCREASE IN SALARY. HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT SO FAR? $94 MILLION. WE HAVE COLLECTED $224 MILLION.

WE'RE SPENDING $7,000 PER PARTICIPANT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. WE ONLY PAY DOLLARS WHEN A PARTICIPANT IS ENROLLED IN TRAINING AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE DOLLARS ARE BEING THE MOST IMPACTFUL FOR OUR CITIZENS. SO ROI $7400 ONE-TIME EXPENSE RESULTING IN OVER $106 MILLION IN JUST INCREASED EARNINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

THAT'S MORE THAN WE HAVE SPENT SO FAR ON THE PROGRAM. THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES, ONLY

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WE HAVE A NEW ROI STUDY UNDERWAY. IT SHOULD BE COMPLETED AND READY FOR PRESENTATION BY FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR. AND THAT STUDY WAS SHOWN A $1.7 BILLION RETURN ON INVESTMENT OVER THE WORKING CAREERS OF READY TO WORK PARTICIPANTS. INTENTIONAL OUTREACH. I TALKED ABOUT HELPING THOSE PEOPLE IN MOST NEED OF THIS PROGRAM. OVER 1700 INDIVIDUALS WITH SELF-IDENTIFIED DISABILITIES. 1700 MILITARY INVOLVED.

THAT'S MILITARY TRANSITIONING SERVICE MEMBERS, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, ANY DEPENDENTS. 3,000 JUSTICE-INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS RE-ENTERING CITIZENS. OVER 500 FORMER FOSTER YOUTH.

WORK PARTICIPANT IS A SINGLE HISPANIC MOTHER WITH MULTIPLE CHILDREN IN THE HOUSEHOLD. SO THE IMPACTS OF THIS WORK, AND THAT $30,000 INCREASE IN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS GOING TO HAVE IMPACT ON THAT GENERATION AS WELL.

SO DEMOGRAPHICS. EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT HAS PARTICIPANTS IN NEED OF THIS SUPPORT. D2 AND D5, OUR MOST IMPOVERISHED DISTRICTS, IS THE LARGEST ENROLLMENT IN READY TO WORK. WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT OUTREACH TO MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL HAS A PARTICIPANT WHO HEARS ABOUT IT AND IS ABLE TO REAP THE BENEFITS. OUR DATA SHOWS THAT WE'VE GOT ONLY ABOUT 100 PARTICIPANTS WITHIN OUR RANKS THAT HAVE AN UPDATED ADDRESS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. AND ALL OF THOSE ADDRESSES ARE STILL WITHIN THE SAN ANTONIO MSA. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATIONS AROUND PARTICIPANTS WHO MAY RECEIVE THE TRAINING AND WHO MAY LEAVE THE SAN ANTONIO AREA. OUR DATA DOES NOT INDICATE THAT THAT IS OCCURRING AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR THIRD. PARTY EVALUATOR, WITH THE UTSA URBAN EDUCATION INSTITUTE, WHO HAS SOME DATA FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION THAT CAN SEE WHERE INDIVIDUALS ARE EMPLOYED.

THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE SO SEE IF ANY DATA NEEDS TO SHOW EMPLOYMENT OUTSIDE OF OUR MSA. EMPLOYER-LED TRAINING OPTIONS. ONE OF THE MANY INNOVATIONS OF READY TO WORK IS LEANING INTO THE ON-THE-JOB TRAINING PROGRAM. THAT'S WORKERS GETTING THEIR FIRST OPPORTUNITY FOR EMPLOYMENT WITH THEIR NEW SKILLS.

THE INCUMBENT, UPSCALING EXISTING WORKFORCE. APPRENTICESHIP.

A COST-EFFECTIVE HIRING PROGRAM. THE COHORT PROGRAMS WHERE EMPLOYERS CAN ASSIST US IN PRESELECTING THE PROGRAMMING AND CANDIDATES.

AND THE PAY IT FORWARD APPRENTICESHIP MODEL SO WE CAN GET INTO THEIR FIRST JOB. THE COHORT MODEL. WE HEARD FROM OUR EMPLOYERS THAT THEY WANTED TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS. NUMBER ONE, SELECTING WHICH TRAINING PROGRAMS INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO BE TRAINED IN.

NUMBER TWO, HAVING TO PRESELECT WHICH INDIVIDUALS THE CITY DOLLARS WERE CONNECTED TO TO PUT THEM THROUGH TRAINING IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF THEM BEING HIRED IN THE BACK END. SEVERAL COMPANIES ARE HAVE TAKEN US UP ON THIS. FROST, SAWS, VIA, AND GUIDEHOUSE HAVE LEANED INTO THIS MODEL AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THAT. PROJECT QUEST IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH METHODIST HEALTH CARE TO IMPLEMENT TO HELP THEM UP SKILL THEIR WORKFORCE. THE PRE-SCREENED PARTICIPANTS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ALIGN WITH TALENT PIPELINES WITH THE SKILLS THEY NEED.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ABLE TO CAN MORE LIKELY BE HIRED IN A SHORTER TIME PERIOD. WORK CLOSELY WITH GREATER SATX AND THE TALENT PIPELINE THEY'RE OPERATING TO HELP GET INFORMATION FROM THOSE EMPLOYERS AND RECRUIT THEM. AND WORKING WITH TRISTAR IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE WE GET THEM CONNECTED AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO THESE EMPLOYERS. OUR ON-THE-JOB TRAINING MODEL, WE'VE GOT ROUND ONE ALMOST IN THE BOOKS . WHERE WE STARTED OFF WITH $18 AN HOUR MINIMUM WAGE THAT THE EMPLOYERS HAD TO UTILIZE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM. WE OPENED IT UP TO WHOEVER THEY WANTED TO HIRE.

DIDN'T HAVE TO BE READY TO WORK PARTICIPANTS. THEY COULD HIRE ANY HIRE FROM THE COMMUNITY. ROUND TWO, WE INCREASED THE MINIMUM WAGE THEY HAD TO PAY PARTICIPANTS USING CITY DOLLARS, UP TO $20 AN HOUR. WE ALSO BEGAN THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO HIRE READY TO WORK PARTICIPANTS.

THOSE 1366 PARTICIPANTS THAT WE'RE PROJECTING THEM TO SERVE IN ROUND TWO, THAT'S FY25 READY TO WORK DOLLARS. 1366 JOB PLACEMENTS WE'RE ANTICIPATING FROM THE

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WE HAVEN'T SEEN GREAT RETURNS IN THE WAGE INCREASES THUS FAR IN ROUND ONE BUT WE HAVE A SHORT WINDOW OF SAMPLE SIZE, ABOUT 18 MONTHS THAT THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION. WE ONLY SAW A 35-CENT INCREASE IN WAGES FOR THOSE INCUMBENT WORKER PARTICIPANTS.

WE HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE LETTING US KNOW IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR INVESTMENTS INTO COMPANIES ARE LEADING TO ADDITIONAL WAGES FOR PARTICIPANTS. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN ROUND THREE IS THAT WE SPLIT THE PAYMENTS UP. WE'RE ONLY SPENDING ABOUT $1327 PER TRAINEE RIGHT NOW.

WE WANT TO SPLIT THOSE PAYMENTS UP SO THE EMPLOYER WOULD ONLY BE REIMBURSED FOR HALF OF THE TRAINING. WHEN THE TRAINEE COMPLETES THE TRAINING AND EARNS THE CREDENTIAL. THE OTHER HALF WHEN THAT INDIVIDUAL ACTUALLY GETS A RAISE OR A PROMOTION THAT HAS A RAISE ATTACHED TO IT. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A MORE DIRECT RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THOSE DOLLARS BACK TO THE CITY.

OUR PROGRAM PROGRESS TO DATE. IT HAS BEEN ANOTHER YEAR OF PHENOMENAL GROWTH FOR THE PROGRAM. THE FIRST TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS, WE HAD 1500 JOB PLACEMENTS. WE HAVE DOUBLED THAT WITH OVER 1600 JOB PLACEMENTS IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS ALONE. OUR TRAINING ENROLLMENTS CONTINUE TO BE STRONG. OUR TRAINING COMPLETIONS HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED SINCE THE FIRST TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS OF THE PROGRAM, WITH 2600 PLACEMENTS.

WE GOT THAT SAME NUMBER IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE IN TRAINING PROGRAM COLLEAGUES.

THE COMPLETIONS CONTINUE TO INCREASE AND JOB PLACEMENTS WILL INCREASE PROPORTIONATELY AND OUR NUMBER OF EMPLOYERS CONTINUE TO INCREASE .

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HELP US DO THAT, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH GREATER SATX AND THE TALENT PIPELINE MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE HELPING US TO BE INFORMED OF WHAT JOBS ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE ADJUSTING OUR TRAINING PROGRAM. ENHANCED EMPLOYER ENGAGEMENT.

OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND HIS TEAM ARE CONDUCTING HIRING FAIRS.

TAKING SOME OF THE MYSTERY OUT OF THE HOW TO CONNECT AND ENGAGE WITH THE PROGRAM.

AND WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION AND MANUFACTURING BOOT CAMPS ON THE WAY.

CONSTRUCTION AND MANUFACTURING ARE IN GREAT DEMAND AND WILL BE FOR QUITE SOMETIME. AND SO, AT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR JONES, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME SCENARIOS TO GET US AT 90% PLACEMENT WITHIN A 90-DAY TIMEFRAME. IT IS A VERY LOFTY GOAL BUT US AND OUR PARTNERS WANT OUR PARTICIPANTS TO GET A JOB AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. OUR CURRENT MAN, INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS. AGGRESSIVELY REFINED TARGET OCCUPATIONS AND EMPLOYER JOB ORDERS ONLY. WE ONLY LISTEN TO EMPLOYERS WHO TELL US I NEED XYZ.

WE HAVE SOME INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS TIED TO SPECIFIC JOBS BEING PRODUCED HERE IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY. THOSE THREE OPTIONS ARE WHAT I'M GOING TO GO INTO IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL HERE. AGAIN, OUR CURRENT PLAN, INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENT.

THAT PLAN IS BASED OFF OF RETAINING OUR BEST-PERFORMING PRIME PARTNERS. OUR INITIAL PRIME PARTNERS, WE HAD THREE PLUS ONE PLUS ONE PLUS ONE CONTRACTS WITH THEM. WE'RE IN THE FIRST OPTION YEAR, YEAR FOUR OF THOSE CONTRACTS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RETAIN THE ONES THAT ARE PERFORMING VERY WELL AND ARE SEEING THAT IMPROVEMENT WITH READY TO WORK AS WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM. INCREASE OUR EMPLOYEE-LED INITIATIVES.

MORE CLOSELY MONITOR TO HELP ENSURE THAT JOB ORDERS ARE MATCHED BY JOB PLACEMENTS.

MEANING THE OJT ORDERS THAT THE EMPLOYERS PUT IN. THEY ACTUALLY HIRE THE NUMBER THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE WHEN THEY MAKE THOSE PROJECTIONS.

ENHANCE OUR ACADEMIC CAREER READINESS AND APTITUDE ASSESSMENTS ACROSS OUR PRIME PERSONS. WE DON'T WANT TO SET OUR PARTICIPANTS UP FOR FAILURE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ALIGNED AND PROVIDE THEM WITH THE REMEDIATION THAT'S NEEDED TO GET THEM ON A CAREER PATHWAY. IF WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT

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I SAY GRADUAL BECAUSE OUR ADVISORY BOARD IS REVIEWING THOSE OCCUPATIONS QUARTERLY.

THAT'S ONE OF THEIR CHARGES. WE HAVE TAKEN A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO REMOVING OCCUPATIONS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY SEEING THE DEMAND FOR LOCAL EMPLOYERS TRANSLATING TO JOB PLACEMENTS. BUT WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE AGGRESSIVE IN THAT APPROACH WITH TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS WORTH OF DATA.

SOME OF THE OCCUPATIONS HAD LOWER VOLUME BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE GOT MORE VOLUME, THEY WOULD MAKE MORE DATA-INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT WHICH OCCUPATIONS TO REMOVE. THEY REMOVED ABOUT TEN OCCUPATIONS, A LOT OF THEM IN THE I.T. AND FINANCE SECTORS. WE WEREN'T SEEING AS MUCH GROWTH AND PLACEMENT AS WE HAD HOPED FOR OUR PARTICIPANTS IN READY TO WORK. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE STRENGTHS? WE MAINTAINED THE SCALE AT ABOUT 5,000 ENROLLMENTS PER YEAR IN READY TO WORK.

WE HAVE IMPROVED EMPLOYER-DRIVEN PLACEMENT WITH A MORE FOCUS ON THOSE EMPLOYER-LED TRAINING INITIATIVES. WE CONTINUE TO BOLSTER THE ECOSYSTEM WITH A COLLABORATION THAT'S HAPPENING WITH A BROADER ARRAY OF EMPLOYERS. THE WEAKNESS IS THE REASON WHY READY TO WORK IS UNDER SO MUCH SCRUTINY IS THE LACK OF STAKEHOLDER PATIENCE DUE TO THE SLOWER ACHIEVEMENT OF 90% JOB PLACEMENT WITHIN 90 DAYS. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS TYPE OF CONCERN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM. THE QUESTION WAS WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE ENROLLED? WELL, WE SOLVED THAT PROBLEM AND WE GOT MORE PEOPLE INTO THE PROGRAM. NOW IT'S HOW DO WE GET A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THEM PLACED IN A SHORTER AMOUNT OF TIME. WE CONTINUE TO ITERATE TO TRY TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS. SCENARIO TWO IS A MORE AGGRESSIVELY REFINED TARGETED APPROACH. WE HAVE TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS WORTH OF DATA SO WE KNOW WHICH OCCUPATIONS ARE GETTING 90% IN 90 DAYS NOW. THOSE OCCUPATIONS ARE BUS AND TRUCK MECHANICS, DIAGNOSTIC MEDICAL SOME THAT WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED FOR. NURSES ARE ALWAYS IN DEMAND.

R.N.S, LPNS, MANUFACTURING, JCP, TOYOTA. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO FEED THAT DEMAND FOR EMPLOYMENT. AND CONSTRUCTION AND SKILLED TRADES WITH THE BOND PROGRAM AND THE AIRPORT EXPANSION AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT MAY BE IN THE WORK FOR THE HOUSING BOND, WE'RE GOING TO NEED CONSTRUCTION AND SKILLED TRADE WORKERS. IF WE USE THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY CONTRIBUTING AND WE ADD TO IT, AND WE CONSIDER EXPANDING THAT LIST OF TARGET OCCUPATION BUT THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS. WE CAN GO 90% IN 120 DAYS OR 90% WITHIN 180 DAYS. WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE CAPACITY FROM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH JUST AS AGGRESSIVELY TARGETED OCCUPATIONS.

OUR FIRST ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WE BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE IN THE 90% IN 90-DAY AGGRESSIVE APPROACH WOULD BE ABOUT 2,000 PARTICIPANTS A YEAR.

YOU WOULD SHRINK -- THERE'S FEWER OCCUPATIONS YOU'RE PUSHING PEOPLE TO.

WE HAVE TRAINING CAPACITY CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE TO OVERCOME.

HELPING OUR TRAINING PARTNERS TO EXPAND THOSE TRAINING PIPELINES TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT DROP IN ENROLLMENT THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM.

WE WANT TO HAVE A FOCUSED INVESTMENT ON TRAINING THAT ONLY ALIGNS WITH IN-DEMAND OCCUPATIONS IN READY TO WORK. IT WOULD DECREASE THE TIME TO HIRE UPON TRAINING COMPLETION. AND THE NARROW OF FOCUS WOULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CANDIDATES FOR IN-DEMAND FIELDS.

WE KNOW JCB NEEDS 1300 PEOPLE, IF YOU TAKE SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS OFF THE TIME, LIKE CDL, A LOT OF OUR PARTICIPANTS PURSUE CDL TRAINING TRACKS BECAUSE IT'S SHORT. IT'S ONLY FOUR TO SIX WEEKS IN LENGTH.

NUMBER TWO, THE EMPLOYERS ARE HIRING AND THEY ARE FRIENDLY FOR HIRING PEOPLE WITH CRIMINAL BACKGROUNDS. IF THAT WERE REMOVED FROM THE LIST, MORE PEOPLE WOULD MOVE INTO THE MANUFACTURING PATHWAY.

LOCALLY. WEAKNESSES. SOME EMPLOYERS NEED -- WHEN I SAY SOME EMPLOYERS, BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE RESTRICTING WHICH OCCUPATIONS HAVE GOT FEWER EMPLOYERS HIRING FOR THOSE OCCUPATIONS.

THE POTENTIAL 60% REDUCTION IN RESIDENTS ENROLLING ANNUALLY INTO THE TRAINING DUE TO LIMITED TRAINING SLOTS TO A SMALLER NUMBER OF TARGETED OCCUPATIONS.

AND A POTENTIAL WAIT LIST DUE TO LIMITED ENROLLMENT PATHWAYS.

IF YOU'VE ONLY GOT SO MANY SLOTS, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PRIORITIZE POPULATIONS, WHICH PRIORITY IS GOING TO GET TO THE TOP OF THE LIST.

SUCH AS MANY OF OUR PROGRAMS DO NOW. AND WHICH WOULD HAVE LOWER PRIORITY BASED UPON THE CRITERIA THAT OUR STAKEHOLDERS COME UP WITH.

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WE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE CLOSELY WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND GREATER SATX TO DEVELOP A TRAINING PIPELINE. REPLACE READY TO WORK TARGET INDUSTRIES WITH SA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRIES. WE'RE A LITTLE BROADER IN OUR INDUSTRIES RIGHT NOW. WE COVER EVERYTHING EXCEPT RETAIL WITHIN READY TO WORK.

IT WAS INTENTIONALLY SET UP THAT WAY TO HELP AS MANY EMPLOYERS AS POSSIBLE.

AND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS A MUCH MORE NARROW FOCUS ON WHERE THOSE INCENTIVES AGREEMENTS ARE TIED TO. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT. SOME OF THE STRENGTHS OF THAT PROGRAM, MOST DIRECT ALIGNMENT WITH EMPLOYER HIRING NEEDS. EMPLOYER COMMITMENT TO HIRE IS CODIFIED THROUGH A CONTRACT HIRING REQUIREMENT. ONE OF THE CRITICISMS WE GET ABOUT THE EMPLOYER PLEDGE IS IT'S JUST A GENTLEMEN'S HANDSHAKE AGREEMENT.

IT'S NOT A FIRM AGREEMENT THAT I'M GOING TO HIRE X NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

THESE INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS GUARANTEE IT. WE ALSO GET IT IN OUR ON-THE-JOB TRAINING AGREEMENTS. IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET CITY DOLLARS, THEN THEY'RE COMMITTING TO HIRE READY TO WORK PARTICIPANTS.

IMMEDIATE ATTAINMENT OF 90% WITHIN 90-DAYS FOR NEW ENROW ENROLLEES.

AND I JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE I MAKE THIS POINT AVERAGE IN ABOUT 70 DAYS, THE ONES WHO DO HAVE JOBS. THE CHALLENGE IS THE GROUP THAT DOES NOT FIND EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE OF THE BARRIERS THEY'RE FACING, IT TAKES THEM LONGER. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO FIND BETTER WAYS TO MITIGATE THE BARRIERS THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T HAVE EMPLOYMENT WITHIN THAT TIME-FRAME, TRY TO HELP THEM TO OVERCOME THAT TO GET EMPLOYERS MORE FRIENDLY TO HIRING THAT GROUP. SOME OF THE WEAKNESSES TO THIS MODEL.

SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS SERVED ANNUALLY.

PROGRAM WILL TAKE LONGER TO HIT THE OVERALL PROGRAM OUTCOMES.

I TALKED ABOUT THOSE OUTCOMES AT THE BEGINNING. 28,000 PEOPLE ENROLLED.

15,000 JOB PLACEMENTS. IT WOULD BE A LONGER TREK, LONGER PATHWAY TO GET TO THOSE NUMBERS. EMPLOYER-DRIVEN START DATES. IT'S ALL ABOUT WHEN THOSE HIRING CYCLES ARE. WHICH MAY NOT ALIGN WITH THE IMMEDIATE JOB NEEDS OF SOME OF OUR PARTICIPANTS. IT'S A CHALLENGE TO GET THAT LEVEL OF COMMITMENT FROM A PARTICULAR PROGRAM. THEY HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES THEY HIRE TALENT FROM AND EMPLOYER COMMITMENTS TO HIRE. WE HAVE TO CLOSELY MONITOR TO MAKE SURE THEIR COMMITMENTS MATCH WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.

AND AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO ALEX LOPEZ,

ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, TO TALK ABOUT THE BOARD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THIS SLIDE, WHICH BECAUSE BEFORE THERE WAS A BOARD, THERE WAS A TASK FORCE. AND WHILE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE, THEY ARE NO LONGER WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE REFERENCED. WE INTENTIONALLY LEFT IT THE WAY IT WAS TO SHOW THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS THAT HELPED DESIGN THE READY TO WORK PROGRAM. IT WAS THEIR FEEDBACK THAT IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR THE PROGRAM IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE FACT THAT IT SHOULD BE PROVIDING TUITION FOR CERTIFICATES AND FOR DEGREES. THAT IT SHOULD BE COUPLED WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE. THAT WAS THE CORE OF THE PROGRAM THAT THEY HELPED DESIGN. THE TASK FORCE ALSO QUICKLY IDENTIFIED THE FACT THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE SOME MECHANISM BY WHICH TO MAINTAIN THAT CONTINUED CONNECTION BETWEEN EMPLOYER NEEDS AND THE SKILLS THAT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING. WHATEVER TYPE OF TRAINING THEY WERE GOING TO BE GETTING. SO THAT WAS -- THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THAT WAS AN EXPECTATION THAT SHOULD BE CONTINUED WITHIN THE PROGRAM.

AND THAT CAME TO FRUITION -- THE MECHANISM WE DID THAT THROUGH WAS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE ADVISORY BOARD. SO THE FOCUS AGAIN OF THE BOARD IS TO KEEP LOCAL EMPLOYERS AND THEIR DEMAND FOR SKILLED WORKERS AT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS PROGRAM. THIS ADVISORY BOARD IS CHARGED WITH HELPING TO VALIDATE IN-DEMAND OCCUPATION DATA. MAINTAIN THE PREVIOUS MENTIONED ALIGNMENT BETWEEN TRAINING AND THE IN-DEMAND SKILLS THAT THEY NEED.

THEY ALSO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO US AS FAR AS HOW MANY CERTIFICATES WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON VERSUS TWO AND FOUR-YEAR DEGREES. AND THEN THEY ALSO GIVE US

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ALL TOGETHER, THEY ALSO SERVE AS COMMUNITY AMBASSADORS FOR US.

LIKE YOU HEARD BEN EARLIER, THAT REALLY IS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE THAT THEY PLAY FOR US AS WELL. SO IN DECEMBER OF 2020, CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED THIS BOARD. AND IT WAS SET TO SUNSET AT THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, 2025. AND THIS WAS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE FRAMEWORK OR WITH THE TIME-FRAME THAT THE SALES TAX WOULD BE COLLECTED.

OUR RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS THAT THE TERM OF THE BOARD BE EXTENDED THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2030. WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING THE ADDITION OF TWO SEATS.

ONE IN THE TRAINING PROVIDER OR HIGHER ED CATEGORY. AND ONE SPECIFICALLY FOR AN APPLICANT THAT HAS EXPERIENCE SERVING INDIVIDUALS WITH HIGH BARRIERS. FINALLY, WE'RE RECOMMENDING EXTENDING THE TERM OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD FROM TWO YEARS TO FOUR YEARS AS WELL, JUST TO PROVIDE US THAT CONTINUITY. THE ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE WAS BRIEFED DURING THEIR OCTOBER MEETING AND VOTED IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD FOR FULL CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. SO FOR REFERENCE, THE TOP TABLE IN BLUE SHOWS THE CURRENT CATEGORIES AND THE NUMBER OF SEATS DESIGNATED ON THE BOARD. AND IN THE GREEN TABLE SHOWS THE TWO ADDITIONAL SEATS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, WHICH WOULD BRING THE TOTAL BOARD COMPOSITION TO 11.

SO THIS IS A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE BOARD RECRUITMENT AND APPOINTMENT PROCESS.

THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMENT ISSUE A CALL FOR APPLICATIONS. THEY ISSUED THIS CALL FOR APPLICATIONS IN THE SUMMER.

BUT WE HAD BEEN RECEIVING APPLICATIONS SINCE THE SPRING.

AND THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HELP US REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS FOR ELIGIBILITY AND THEY FORWARD THEM ON TO THE ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. AS A REMINDER, ALL OF THESE SEATS ARE AT-LARGE, WHICH IS WHY A COUNCIL COMMITTEE REVIEWS THE RECOMMENDED APPLICANTS PRIOR TO FULL COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. THERE WERE 25 ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS, SO THE CHAIR IDENTIFIED AS SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW AND SHORT LIST, WHICH THEY DID.

AND AT THE OCTOBER EWDC MEETING, THE SHORT LIST OF APPLICANTS WERE INTERVIEWED.

AND SO OUR NEXT STEP IS FOR FULL COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF THE SLATE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED WHICH YOU SEE HERE. THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR EACH OF THE CATEGORIES THAT WERE REFERENCED EARLIER.

ALONG WITH AN ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION FOR A TRAINING PROVIDER OR HIGHER ED REPRESENTATIVE SHOULD COUNCIL APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO ADD A SEAT HERE IN THAT CATEGORY. ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS RECOMMENDED FOR APPOINTMENT -- ACTUALLY, IT'S REAPPOINTMENT BECAUSE THEY CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE BOARD -- BUT FOR TWO, JIMENA SAENZ AND JOHN CHAMPION. THEY WOULD BE NEW ADDITIONS. THE ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ASKED AT STAFF TO CONTINUING RECRUITING AND FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE SERVING POPULATIONS WITH HIGH BARRIERS, AGAIN, SHOULD COUNCIL APPROVE ADDING THAT CATEGORY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU, ALEX. AND FOR CLARITY, THE EWDC WAS PREVED ON THE BOARD. CORRECT?

NOT ON THE PART THAT MIKE BRIEFED. >> CORRECT.

THEY RECEIVED THAT AND THEY ALSO JUST -- EARLIER THIS WEEK THEY WERE BRIEFED ON THE INCUMBENT WORKING AND ROUND THREE PROPOSAL.

>> GREAT. WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS CLEAR ON WHAT THEY WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION ON.

THIS IS -- THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR BEING HERE AND PROVIDING YOUR OPENING COMMENTS. I KNOW THERE'S -- THIS IS ONE WHERE THERE'S A BALANCE. RIGHT? BETWEEN HOW MANY FOLKS WE CAN HELP, HOW QUICKLY, AND THIS BEING A NEW INITIATIVE THAT CAN BE CULT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHALLENGES, THE INTRICATE CHANGES OF THE POPULATION WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE. I DO -- BEFORE I ASK SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION ITSELF, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS TRAINING SITE WHICH IS A READY TO WORK PARTNER. IN SPEAKING WITH THE DIRECTOR, ALL OF THOSE FOLKS ARE RELIANT ON ABOUT A $7,000 PELL GRANT. HOW ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THIS PROGRAM WITH POTENTIAL THREATS TO FEDERAL FUNDING THAT MAKES THE PROGRAM

FEASIBLE FOR SO MANY? >> I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BEAUTIES OF FUNDING

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SO READY TO WORK CAN STILL OFFSET THAT TUITION, BUT ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE CAN HAVE WITH THIS COUNCIL AND ABOUT THE BOARD AND EWDC IS DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT INCREASING THOSE ANNUAL CAPS IF

THERE'S -- >> I THINK WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ABOUT ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING TARGETED IN CERTAIN AREAS BASED ON WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO PURSUE AND THE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT THIS COST TO PROVIDE THIS ALL OF A SUDDEN DOUBLES OR TRIPLES, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THAT FEDERAL FUNDING GOES AWAY.

THAT'S IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY FOR YOUR BUDGETARY PURPOSES BUT FRANKLY ALSO WE'RE ADVOCATING AND WORKING WITH YOU OUR OWN FEDERAL DELEGATION TO PROTECT THOSE RESOURCES. THERE ARE KEY FACILITATORS AND FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT MAKE THIS MORE, I THINK, ATTRACTIVE AND HELP US UNDERSTAND THE TRUE COST IN CERTAIN AREAS.

THANK YOU AS WELL FOR LAYING FLAT THE MISCONCEPTION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WE LOSE TO HOUSTON. I THINK THAT WAS UNFORTUNATELY SOMETHING THAT WAS REPEATED WILDLY -- WIDELY -- EXCUSE ME -- AND WILDLY BASED ON HOW YOU DESCRIBED IT, BUT SOMETHING THAT WAS UNFORTUNATELY WITHOUT THE COUNTER OF NO, HERE'S THE DATA. I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING TO GET THE DATA I ASKED FOR WHICH IS HOW CAN WE ENSURE THEY ARE IN FACT IN SAN ANTONIO.

SO GOOD TO HEAR THAT STARTING SOON WE'LL BE ABLE TO CHECK UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND DETERMINE WHERE OUR FOLKS ACTUALLY ARE.

FOR EVERYONE'S EDIFICATION, THE 3200 PLACED, WHAT IS THE

BREAKDOWN? >> THOSE ARE ALL TRAINING PROGRAM COMPLETERS, THE 3200, SO FAR TODAY. THOSE ARE ALL TRAINING PROGRAMS. THEY WENT THROUGH AN EDUCATION AND TRAINING

PROGRAM AND HIRED BY LOCAL EMPLOYERS. >> GREAT.

I GET THAT THE AVERAGE SALARY ONCE THEY FINISH THE PROGRAM IS 44K.

WHAT IS THE MEDIAN? >> IT'S A LITTLE LOWER THAN THAT.

IT'S ABOUT 42K. I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I CAN GET MY DATA TEAM TO GET IT TO US BEFORE THIS MEETING IS OVER.

>> OKAY. GREAT. ON THE INCUMBENT WORKING PIECE, $15 AN HOUR IS QUITE LOW. SO I LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR OTHER STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES. YOU SAT THROUGH OUR CONVERSATION ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE KNOW WHAT IT TAKES. IT OUTLINES WHAT DOES SOMEBODY NEED TO MAKE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A ONE-BEDROOM APARTMENT. OKAY. SO WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, WE TAKE THAT, THE ANNUAL, DIVIDE IT -- FIGURE OUT THE HOURLY WAGE, AND THAT IS THE VERY MINIMUM. RIGHT? THAT EACH. OUR PROGRAMS SHOULD BE SUPPORTING BECAUSE WE KNOW AT THE VERY LEAST, THAT THAT IS AN AMOUNT THAT SOMEBODY CAN SUSTAIN THEMSELF IN

OUR COMMUNITY. MAKE SENSE? >> I UNDERSTAND THAT LOGIC, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE INCUMBENT WORKING TRAINING PROGRAM IS TO HELP PEOPLE MAKING LESS MONEY GET SKILLS TO MAKE MORE MONEY.

SO -- >> I UNDERSTAND. >> IF THEY ARE MAKING 15 AND WE HELP HE PARTNER WITH THE EMPLOYER TO INVEST IN THEM SO THEY CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUMP TO 18 OR $20 AN HOUR, THEN THAT'S THE

PURPOSE OF THAT INVESTMENT. >> YEAH.

I THINK WE'RE TALKING PAST EACH OTHER. WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS $15 AN HOUR BY OUR OWN DATA AND GOALS DOES NOT MEET WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. THAT'S WHY $15 AN HOUR IS NOT THE RIGHT

NUMBER. >> I AGREE. >> WHEN WE ALSO LOOK AT THE WAGE INCREASE ACROSS THOSE, IN ANTICIPATE OF THOSE, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAMS, EACH OF THOSE WAGE INCREASES WERE LESS

THAN 50 CENTS. >> CORRECT. >> SO THAT IS ALSO NOT EXACTLY WHAT I THINK OUR COMMUNITY THOUGHT THEY WERE SIGNING UP FOR AND CREATING THESE THINGS. SO, AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE EARLY IN EXECUTIVE CLINIQUING THE DATA. HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY. HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE INCREASES TO THAT. BUT THAT'S WHY TYING THE WAGES THAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON TO THE WAGES WE KNOW WE NEED OUR FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE AT A MINIMUM TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THEMSELF IS, I THINK, WHERE WE NEED TO BE. IF THOSE EMPLOYERS ARE NOT AT THAT LEVEL, MAYBE

WE NEED TO WORK WITH DIFFERENT EMPLOYERS. >> I CONCUR.

>> OKAY. >> THE COUNCIL, AFTER THE FIRST ROUND,

REQUESTED THAT WE -- >> THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL, NOT THIS COUNSEL.

>> THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT WE -- SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY

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THAT CAME FROM. >> YEAH. I THINK IT'S TOUGH.

I WELCOME YOUR ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

US SUBSIDIESING PROGRAMS WHERE WE SEE 30 CENT INCREASES IN WAGES IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE THAT GETS THEM TO BE LESS POOR.

GOT T BUT NOT EVEN A GOAL THAT MEETS WHAT WE SAID WAS IMPORTANT IN OUR COMMUNITY. YESTERDAY WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT -- WAS IT YESTERDAY? THE DAY BEFORE. IT WAS ON -- AGAIN, HOW DO WE MEET THESE GOALS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. 90% OF FOLKS IN AN APPROVED JOB WITHIN 90 DAYS. I APPRECIATE YOUR INCORPORATION OF MY FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF HOW WE CAN BE MUCH MORE TARGETED.

FRANKLY, WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ON THAT BOARD IS A SIX SIGMA EXPERTISE THAT IS RUTHLESS IN HOW WE ARE TYING OUR IN-- INVESTMENTS. WE'VE MAXED OUT. THEN WE GO TO WHAT IS IT AT 120? 150? WE CAN TIE IN AND EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY WHY THIS PROGRAM IS SO IMPORTANT AND WHY WE MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE WITH SOME OF THE NUMBERS.

WHAT I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE IS THOSE BARRIERS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT ARE PREVENTING FOLKS FROM BEING PLACED IN APPROVED JOBS, I WOULD APPRECIATE PRESENTING THOSE TO THIS BODY IN A FOLLOW-UP MEMO IS MINE BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALK -- FINE BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT IN THESE POINTS FOR CHILD CARE AND TRANSIT AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND SO IF WE CAN TIE IT BACK TO, BY THE WAY, THIS IS MIKE RAMSEY AND HIS TEAM SAID THEY NEED. THAT IS A STRONGER CASE FOR US.

THEN IT'S NOT OUR WISH LIST. IT'S OUR NEED LIST.

RIGHT? JUST THIS MORNING, I WAS AT THE ALAMO COLLEGES HEADQUARTERS. DR. FLORES AND DR. SOLIZ WERE ANNOUNCING A KEY PARTNERSHIP WHERE THOSE STUDENTS THAT ARE -- WELL, PARENT STUDENTS.

SO THEY THEMSELVES WILL BE ABLE TO GET A GOOD EDUCATION WHILE THEIR YOUNG CHILD HAS ACCESS TO EARLY -- QUALITY EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. I KNOW ONE OF THE PARTNERS IS NO LONGER A PARTNER, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS THEY ARE ENGAGING IN THOSE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS, THEY MAY IN FACT ACTUALLY BE NOW MORE COMPETITIVE GIVEN THE PARTNERSHIP LINE THAT THEY ARE CREATING AS A RESULT OF THEM HAVING THAT OTHER, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THAT BARRIER WHICH IS FRANKLY CHILD CARE. SO WELCOME LOOKING AT TAPPING INTO THAT AGAIN GIVEN THAT APPROACH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. COUNCI COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I DO WANT TO START WITH A STATEMENT WRITTEN BY COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO WHO CAN'T BE HERE. SO I'M READING SOMETHING SHE SENT TO ME THIS AFTERNOON. I'M UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY'S BRIEFING AS I AM DEALING WITH A FAMILY EMERGENCY AND WON'T BE BACK TOMORROW.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN FOR READING THIS LETTER INTO THE RECORD.

THANK YOU TO MIKE RAMSEY AND THE READY TO WORK TEAM FOR BRIEFING MY OFFICE ON THE SAN ANTONIO READY TO WORK PROGRAM UPDATE AND ADVISORY BOARD EXTENSION. I EXPRESSED MY FULL SUPPORT FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT THE ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND I REMAIN SUPPORTIVE TODAY.

I'M ESPECIALLY GLAD TO SEE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR NOT OUT THE JOB TRAINING FOR JUSTICE INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS. MY OFFICE IS WORKING ON AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM AND THIS EFFORT WILL HELP I WILL GRATE THE SHARED BENEFITS OF A SECOND CHANCE HIRING TO EMPLOYEES.

SINCERELY TERI CASTILLO, COUNCILMEMBER, DISTRICT 5.

I'LL ENTER THIS INTO THE RECORD. TERI AND I CAME ON COUNCIL TOGETHER AND SERVED ON ECONOMIC WORKFORCE AND DEVELOPMENT AND WE'VE SEEN SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS THERE. WE'VE SEEN THE ITERATIONS AND PIVOTS THAT READY TO WORK HAS HAD TO MAKE. AS WE NOT JUST CAME OUT OF THE PANDEMIC BUT AS WE LED OUT OF THE PANDEMIC. BEING AT THIS POINT HERE TODAY BECAUSE SAN ANTONIO HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN CONSERVATIVE AND WHEN THE AIRLINES CAME TO TEXAS AND SAID THEY WANTED A HUB AND WE WOULD TRAIN YOUR PEOPLE AND DO THIS, SAN ANTONIO

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WHATEVER REASONS THEY SAID NO. SO WE SAW DALLAS AND HOUSTON GET THE TRAINING, GET THE BEGINNING OF WHAT WE WOULD CALL ADVANCED MANUFACTURING IN TERMS OF THE SKILLS WHILE SAN ANTONIO, AGAIN, FOUND THEIR OWN WAY TO THRIVE AND REALLY RELIED HEAVILY ON TRAVELING TOURISM AND THE MILITARY BASES TO WORK ON THAT.

AS WE WENT THROUGH THAT AND WE SAW THERE WE HAD SOME VERY VISIONARY MAYORS COME IN AND SEE WE NEEDED TO DIVERSIFY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DID, WE'VE GOT NOW THE RESEARCH, SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE.

WE SAW MAYOR CASTRO COME IN, LOOK AT PRE-K FOR SA, THE CYBER, AND HERE WE ARE TODAY. HERE WE ARE AND WE UNDERSTOOD WE WEREN'T GETTING THE TRAINING THOUGH. NO EMPLOYER WAS COMING EN MASSE LIKE THE AIRLINES AND TRAINING LIKE WE NEEDED.

SO HOW DO WE BRING TOGETHER OUR SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT ARE DOING WELL AND OUR TEENAGE BUSINESSES, AS SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO CALL, BIG MANUFACTURERS, WHICH WE HAD GOTTEN HERE, WHICH WAS TOYOTA AND, OF COURSE, INTERNATIONAL AND NOW WE HAVE JCB.

HOW DO WE GET TO PROVIDE THAT WORKFORCE? I THINK THIS WAS A VERY GOOD AND INNOVATIVE IDEA, BUT WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO TAKE TIME.

WE KNEW IF WE WERE GOING TO LEAD OUT OF THE PANDEMIC THAT WE NEEDED TO PROMISE THAT THOSE 90 DAYS. IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT BECAUSE GETTING A POPULATION THAT DOESN'T THINK THEY CAN OR GOES HOME TO AN ENVIRONMENT THAT TELLS THEM YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING MORE MONEY, MAKES IT HARDER FOR THEM TO TAKE THE RISKS. BUT I APPLAUD YOU AND THE PROGRAM AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE. I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO HAS BEEN VERY MUCH -- I KNOW THE TERM IS JUSTICE-INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS, AND THAT HAS BEEN -- THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SIT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY AND TO GET THEM TO BE ENCOURAGED THAT THIS IS THE BETTER AVENUE FOR THEM, THAT THIS IS GOING TO HELP THEM IN THE LONG RUN HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE AND A PROCESS. SO AS WE SIT HERE AND WE WANT TO SAY OUR GOALS ARE $20 THING, THAT'S A HARD ASK A PUBLIC AND A COMMUNITY WHEN YOU'RE LIKE, BUT THEY ARE JUSTICE-INVOLVED.

THEY WERE CRIMINALS BEFORE. I HAVEN'T A CRIMINAL.

NOW THEY ARE MAKING MORE MONEY THAN ME. THERE IS A LOT OF UNPACKING TO DO THERE. THE SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE COME TO US YEAR AFTER YEAR SAYING, I CANNOT START AT THAT $20 HOURLY WAGE.

IT'S JUST NOT DO-ABLE. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE ON-THE-JOB TRAINING IS FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES WE'VE TOLD THEM WE NEED YOU TO START HERE AND GET US UP THERE. WHILE 30 CENTS ISN'T A LOT, IT'S MOVING THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION AS THIS NEW COUNCIL, YOU NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION. YOU EITHER -- WE EITHER MAKE SOME CONCESSIONS OR WE START RED LINING PEOPLE. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS PROGRAM WAS ABOUT. IF YOU ARE INVOLVED IN ONE OF THE CATEGORIES, IF YOU'RE SOMETHING INVOLVED, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE -- WE'VE JUST SEEN THAT. SO YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO SAY, NO, WE ALL WANT EVERYBODY TO START AT THIS EQUAL $20 AN HOUR, AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO, AND THEN WE RED LINE SOME OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T START AT $20 AN HOUR.

SO I -- THIS IS WHY I LIKE THE PROGRAM. IT'S NOT A SUBSIDY.

IT'S AN INVESTMENT. IT'S AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN MY YOUTH T THAT WERE DRINKING OR PULLING FIRE ALARMS OR GOTTEN IN TROUBLE WITH JUVENILE. THEY ARE TRYING TO GET OUT.

IT'S WORKING WITH THEM. I GO TO MY TACO CABANA, THE EMPLOYEES ARE AT TATTE UP DID PRISON GANG TATS. I'M JUST THANKFUL THAT THEY ARE THERE AND THEY ARE WORKING. OR THEY ARE AT THE JALISCO AND WORKING. IF WE CAN DO SOMING TO LEVEL THEM UP TO KEEP

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THE READY TO WORK ADVISORY BOARD BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH SO MANY PIVOTS AND YOU'VE SEEN, THAT'S HOW I WANT TO SEE IT CONTINUE AND WE PUT FORWARD SO MANY REAPPOINTMENTS AND WE LOOKED AND SAID, HEY, THE ONE THING WE'RE GETTING THAT I WANT TO GUARANTEE YOU ALL IS THAT WE'VE TOLD THEM, IF THEY'RE NOT ATTENDING, LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE NEED PEOPLE ATTENDING. SO WHILE IT SAYS FOUR YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO TELL THEM IT'S A FOUR-YEAR COMMITMENT. IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS THOUGH, AFTER I THINK WE DECIDED SO MANY ABSENCES, YOU'RE GONE AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A REPLACEMENT.

SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THE TIME WE HAVE LEFT TO REALLY LEAD AND SHOW WHAT IT IS TO DO THAT WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU COME FROM. MY COMMUNITY IS THE COMMUNITY THAT WHEN WITH -- THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED.

THEY HAVE THE TATTOOS TO PROVE IT, BUT THEY ARE BACK AT HOME IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND WANT A SECOND CHANCE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE INVEST AND GIVE THEM A SECOND CHANCE AND I DO THINK -- YOU CAN SAID MAGIC WORDS, SINGLE HISPANIC MOTHERS BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER POPULATION THAT WE DID THE STUDIES. WE KNOW THAT 50% OF OUR 20% POVERTY RATE, 50% ARE SINGLE WOMEN HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS WITH PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE CHILD. IF WE EVEN DIG FURTHER, A PARENT AT HOME, TOO.

SO I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT INVESTMENT. WE NEED TO KEEP MAKING PIVOTS, BUT YES, THIS COUNCIL DOES NEED TO MAKE A DECISION IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE. IF WE DECIDE IT'S THE SALARIES, THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. BUT MY PLEAD IS THAT IT IS REALLY AT LOOKING AT INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND ESSENTIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR WHO HAVE BEEN -- THAT'S THE THING. WE'VE BEEN RED LINED BEFORE. IF WE'RE RED LINED AGAIN, WE'LL FIND BUSINESSES AND WAYS TO MOVE FORWARD. I JUST -- I JUST WOULD HOPE THIS WOULDN'T BE THE COUNCIL THAT WOULD DO IT.

THANK YOU. >> IN CASE ANYONE ELSE HAS A SIMILAR QUESTION, THE 5K INCENTIVE LEVELS, IS THAT -- WHAT IS THAT BASED ON? IS IT BASED ON ADDRESSING WHAT THE COUNCILMEMBER JUST RAISED IN THAT SOME OF THE SMALLER BUSINESSES SAY THEY CAN'T PAY A CERTAIN WAGE SO WE'VE DONE SOME ANALYSIS THAT SHOWS THAT 5K IS IN FACT WHAT WILL HELP PEOPLE -- WHAT WILL INCENTIVIZE THEM APPROPRIATELY TO HIRE AT THAT LEVEL? WHAT ANALYSIS HAS GONE INTO THE INCENTIVE?

>> SO THE $5,000 IS THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE TRAINING THAT THE EMPLOYER HAS WHERE PAID FOR. IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT RATE. FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, THEY WILL GET REIMBURSED AT A 75% RATE IF THEY ARE HIRING A -- IF THEY HAVE A NON READY TO WORK PARTICIPANT THEY ARE UPSCALING THROUGH TRAINING DOLLARS. THE LARGE BUSINESSES WOULD BE A 50% RATE. THEY HAVE A SMALLER RECOUPMENT WITH THE CITY DOLLARS IN RETURN. IF THE PERSON BEING REINVESTED IN IS A READY TO WORK PARTICIPANT, MEANING THEY HIRED FROM THE READY TO WORK PIPELINE AND THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED AT THAT COMPANY AND LOOKING TO UPSKILL THEM TO INCREASE THEIR PROMOTION POTENTIAL, THOSE EMPLOYERS GET 100% REIMBURSEMENT.

OF THE $5,000. THAT FLOOR HAS TO BE AT LEAST $15 AN HOUR VERSUS 20S AN HOUR WHICH WAS THE FLOOR IN LAST ITERATION OF WORKER

TRAINING PROGRAM. >> I'M FAMILIAR WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING.

HOW HAS SHE ADDRESSED THE POINT SHE IS RAISING, IF WE WANT THE SMALL BUSINESSES TO TAKE THESE FOLKS AND PAY THEM AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, WHAT IS OUR LEVEL OF ANALYSIS OF THE APPROPRIATE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO DO THAT? 5K MAY OR MAY NOT BE -- IT'S NOT -- THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. WHAT IS THE 5K TIED TO? I'M.

>> THE AVERAGE TRAINING IS $1385 IN THE LAST ITERATION OF THE PROGRAM. THE $5,000 IS BASED ON OUR TUITION CAPS FOR NON-DEGREE TRAINING. WE KEPT IT IN LINE WITH THAT READY TO WORK.

>> CERTAINLY WE A TO SUPPORT OR SMALL BUSINESSES IN CASE IT INFORMS ANYONE ELSE'S COMMENTS, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE INCUMBENT WORKER TRAINING PROGRAM ARE LARGE BUSINESSES AS WELL AS SIMILARLY THE OJT? I THINK TOYOTA PARTICIPATES IN THESE PROGRAMS. CORRECT? MICHAEL.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. WORKFORCE ADMINISTRATOR. SO FOR MOST RECENT ROUND TWO GRANTS, 49% WAS AWARDED TO SMALL BUSINESSES. OJT WAS EQUAL TO 49%.

INCUMBENT WORKER WAS 51% OF THE AWARDED FUNDS. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> YEAH. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THAT'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT DECISION POINT WHICH IS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF IF WE DO WANT TO IN FACT PRIORITIZE SMALL BUSINESSES, WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER? SOME OF THESE LARGE CORPORATIONS HAVE THE RESOURCES AND ANY LARGE CORPORATION KNOWS UP TO SET ASIDE 10% OR 15% TO UPSKILL YOUR EMPLOYEES. THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THE BREAKDOWN.

COUNCILMEMBER MCERODE ROD. >> I'LL START OFF WITH GOOD AND THEN A QUESTION OR A THOUGHT AND THEN SOME CRITIQUES AND CHALLENGES. SO ONE GOOD THING IS, I DID START OFF WITH NEGATIVE PRESUMPTIONS OF THIS PROGRAM AND I THINK BROADLY AND AS A WHOLE I APPRECIATE A PROGRAM THAT CAN TAKE SOMEONE IN A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY MAKING $15,000 A YEAR AND TRIPLE THAT. THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR EFFORTS SHOULD BE AND ESPECIALLY A NUMBER OF THOSE PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE TYPICALLY FINDING CHALLENGES ENTER HING A WORKFORCE OR GROWING WITHIN A WORKFORCE. I THINK THIS IS A PROGRAM WORKING FOR THEM. EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO FIND THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROGRAM WORKING AND ACCOMPLISHING THOSE GOALS, WE SHOULD DO THAT. SAME TO THE CONTRARY, ANYTHING THAT IS NOT WORKING THAT IS WASTING OUR DOLLARS, WE SHOULD PRETTY PROMPTLY CHANGE THAT. CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE -- LET'S START OFF WITH SLIDE 3. THIS IS SOMETHING I

FOUND INTERESTING. >> APPRECIATE IT, SIR. >> WIABOUT TO GIVE

YOU -- >> IT DOESN'T LOOK AS GOOD ON THIS SCREEN.

I'M LOOKING AT IT ON MY COMPUTER. WHAT STANDS OUT TO ME IS IF I'M LOOKING AT INCOME INEQUALITY, I CAN READ THIS AS SIMPLE AS THE DARK SPOTS ARE LOWEST INCOME. LIGHTS SPOTS ARE HIGHEST INCOME. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE DARKEST ONE REPRESENTS HIGHER INEQUALITY -- INCOME INEQUALITY WITHIN THAT AREA. IT'S PLAINLY

ABOUT WAGES. >> CORRECT. >> WHAT IS INTERESTING IS SOME OF THOSE AREAS I'M LOOKING AT THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE IT'S OF INTEREST TO ME, BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT OTHERS FOR YOURSELF.

ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU LOOK AND SEE HIGH INCOME INEQUALITY FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT AND THEN YOU GO TO LOW EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT.

YOU SEE IT'S NOT AS SIGNIFICANT ESPECIALLY THE FURTHEST YOU GO.

SO I WOULD WONDER WHY THAT IS AND WHAT DATA DO WE HAVE TO ANSWER FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT INCOME INEQUALITY PERSISTS DESPITE HIGHER EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT. I COULD COME UP WITH CONCLUSIONS AND IDEAS OF WHY I THINK THAT IS. I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH RACE, GENDER, A CULTURE THAT EXISTS WITHIN BUSINESSES, FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, HOUSING, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT SPECIFICALLY TARGET COMMUNITIES WITHIN THIS AREA AND WITHIN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO I WOULD LOVE WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU COULD GATHER THAT WOULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME SORT OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE COULD MAKE PERTAINING TO THAT. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING TO SLIDE 13 NOW, THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO GET INTO THE CRITIQUE. I THINK -- I BELIEVE I HEARD THE MAYOR SAY THIS. I WANT TO DOUBLE DOWN ON IT QUITE A BIT BECAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THIS PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY, THIS COMPONENT ON-THE-JOB TRAINING, WE'RE SPENDING $1,,031,073 FOR ESSENTIALLY AN AVERAGE OF 45 CENTS IN WAGE INCREASES PER PERSON.

I WOULD LIKE TO CONVEY , I THINK, FOR THE FUTURE, I WOULD MUCH PREFER TO SEE MEDIAN. I INTERPRET THIS IS AVERAGE.

I WOULD PREFER TO SEE MEDIAN JUST SO IT ELIMINATES A LITTLE BIT OF THE SKEWING THAT OUTLIERS DO IN DATA LIKE THIS.

BUT BASED OFF JUST THIS ALONE, 45 CENT WAGE INCREASE FOR THE 287 PARTICIPANTS FOR 1.8% WAGE INCREASE AND 2.4% OF EMPLOYEES PROMOTED AT 287, THAT'S ABOUT 3,592 DOLLARS THAT WE ARE SPENDING PER PARTICIPANT TO RECEIVE 45 CENTS. THAT IS -- THAT 45 CENTS IN ORDER TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE, THAT REPRESENTS 7,982 HOURS OF WORK TO JUSTIFY THIS

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FOUR YEARS TO MAKE UP THAT 45 CENTS BECAUSE THEY PARTICIPATED IN THIS TRAINING. SO WHAT THAT READS TO ME IS THAT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY HANDING EMPLOYERS $3,600 TO PAY AN EMPLOYEE A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF CENTS HOURLY LESS, AND THAT TO ME IS UNACCEPTABLE.

IT TELLS ME THIS -- I WOULD SAY JUST BASED OFF THAT ALONE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU REVERSE THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU REWORK THE PROGRAM ENOUGH TO WHERE IT'S NOT A COMPLETELY NEW PROGRAM BY THE END OF IT BECAUSE THAT TO ME IS JUST UNACCEPTABLE. I WOULD -- I HEARD YOU -- YOU DID ADDRESS IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF I'M -- PLEASE.

>> YEAH. ON-THE-JOB TRAINING IS NEW HIRES.

THE INCOME FOR HALF OF THE 3200 HIRES WAS ZERO.

>> SO THIS IS -- >> NOT ONLY DO THEY GET THEIR FIRST JOB, THEY ALSO GOT A RAISE WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THERE IS NOTHING BUT

GOOD STUFF. >> THAT'S EXTREMELY HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK I INTERPRETED IT THE SAME WAY THAT THE MAYOR DID WHEN I HEARD THE 45 CENTS. GOT YOU.

>> SO THAT TAKES ME TO SLIDE 14 WHICH I WILL REDO THE NEW AMOUNT.

SO THAT 73 CENTS -- >> 35 CENTS. >> NOT EVEN THAT MUCH.

THAT'S 1% WAGE INCREASE. >> CORRECT.

>> 6.2% OF EMPLOYEES WERE PROMOTED. THAT'S INSTEAD 1,327 PER PERSON FOR 33 CENTS. THAT WOULD INSTEAD BE ALMOST TWO YEARS OF WORK. THAT REPRESENTS 4,021 HOURS TO BREAK EVEN.

ON THE JOB, EXCELLENT. GREAT. HAPPY TO SEE IT YIELDING POSITIVE RESULTS. THIS ONE, HOWEVER, HOW DO YOU FLIP THAT.

>> THAT IS A CHALLENGE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING TO SPLIT THE REIMBURSEMENT ON THE EMPLOYERS TO MAKE IT MORE LIKELY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE INDIVIDUALS RAISES AFTER SHEESHING THIS TRAINING. IS IT A GUARANTEE? NO.

THEY WON'T RECRUIT THE $1300 ON AVERAGE THEY'RE GETTING FROM THE PROGRAM, THEY ONLY GET HALF OF THAT UNLESS THEY OFFER RAISES TO PARTICIPANTS. IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE IMPACT OF THAT BEING KNOWN UP FRONT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FEWER EMPLOYERS PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE CITY IS GOING TO BE EXPECTED ME CONTRACT ALI TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE A RAISE. THE PREVIOUS ITERATION WAS ONLY AN EXPECTATION. IT WASN'T BINDING WHICH IS WHY WE SEE ONLY 35 CENT INCREASE IN MY OPINION.

IT MAY YIELD TO HIGHER RESULTS WITH THAT EXISTING EMPLOYER THAT'S INVESTING IN THE TRAINING BECAUSE REMEMBER, THE PERSON IS BENEFITING FROM THESE DOLLARS, NOT JUST THE COMPANY.

THEY ARE GETTING A CREDENTIAL THEY CAN TAKE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THEY GET THAT RAISE WITH THAT EXISTING EMPLOYER OR SHOP AROUND AND GO TO FIND YOU NEW EMPLOYMENT FOR SOMEONE WHO VALUES IT MORE.

>> SAY THE NUMBER STAYS AS IS, THEY ONLY GET THE 50% AT TRAINING COMPLETION. THAT'S $2500 THEY RECEIVE.

WE'RE STILL SPENDING 1327 A PERSON AND IT DOESN'T -- IT'S STILL

NOT MAKING SENSE TO ME. >> THAT'S ONLY IF THEY GET THE MAX.

WE'VE ONLY SEEN 1335 DOLLARS THE AVERAGE COST BEING ACTUALLY EXPENSED. ADDS,000 IS THE CAP. POTENTIALLY IT COULD BE THAT HIGH IF EVERYBODY EXPENSED THAT. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT

THUS FAR. >> I STILL SAY WE SCRAP THIS ONE AND START WITH SOMETHING ELSE. I DON'T LIKE IT. I DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL.

I DON'T SEE HOW -- I DON'T LIKE IT. I NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AS A BODY. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT OTHER MODELS ARE WORKING ELSEWHERE. THIS ONE FOR ME, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS OF READY TO WORK. WE SEE THAT THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE YIELDING THE BEST RESULTS ARE NOT THIS, AND THIS IS LIKELY TO GIVE PEOPLE WAY MORE PAUSE THAN, YOU KNOW, GIVING JUSTICE INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS A FAIR CHANCE OR -- I'M NOT CONVINCED ABOUT THIS.

BUT FOR THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, WHICH IS THE BOARD STUFF, I'M COOL WITH THAT. WHAT WAS THE OTHER PIECE YOU WERE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON? WAS IT JUST THAT, THE

STRUCTURE AND THE APPOINTMENTS? >> THE TIME FRAME FROM TWO TO FOUR YEARS. IT MATCHES THE COUNCIL TERMS AS WELL.

>> SO IF WE START OFF, ARE WE GOING TO -- THIS NEXT ROUND THEY'LL BE SHORTER TERMS? IT WILL END WHEN OUR TERMS LAPSE?

>> NO. >> IT WOULD BE A FOUR-YEAR TERM THAT WILL BEGIN WHEN THE COUNCIL APPOINTS THEM. WHENEVER THAT START DATE IS, THE COUNCIL PAYMENTS THE APPOINTMENTS, THE FOUR-YEAR TERM WILL

BEGIN. >> I MAY RECOMMEND THAT WE CHANGE THAT LIKE THE REST OF OUR APPOINTMENTS THAT WE MAKE USUALLY THEY ALIGN WITH --

>> THE TERM. >> OUR TERM. SO I WOULD SAY THAT FOR

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THAT'S THE ONLY FEEDBACK I HAVE ON THAT. AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE

TONICS THIS. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER

ALDERETE GAVITO. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

I DO WANT TO THANK THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE, BEN, JENNIFER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO AND ALL THE OTHERS BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, SERVING ON A BOARD IS A LABOR OF LOVE.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING ON THERE.

MENT I THI I THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

ON SLIDE NUMBER 7, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THE SIX-MONTH PLACEMENT HAS GONE UP BUT STILL LOOKS LIKE THE 12-MONTH PLACEMENT NUMBERS HAVE GONE DOWN. YOU KNOW, I KNOW I SAID IT IN THE LAST TIME WE WERE BRIEFED. IT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW THAT THESE FOLKS, WHETHER THEY WERE EMPLOYED PREVIOUSLY OR NOT, HAVE GONE THROUGH READY TO WORK AND STILL HAVE TROUBLE FINDING A JOB A YEAR LATER.

SO THAT'S JUST A HUGE RED FLAG TO ME. I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME SOME STRATEGIES TO FIX IT, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S FIXING IT. SO I DO WANT TO CALL OUT THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I -- IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO GO BACK TO RESIDENTS WHO WATCH THIS AND ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT, YEAH, PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH THE PROGRAM STILL HAVE DIFFICULTIES FINDING A JOB.

SO OPEN TO ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE. >> YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY. IT'S A VALID POINT, ONE WE'VE BEEN HEARING FOR A LONG TIME. I WOULD SAY IF THERE'S A SILVER BULLET, WE WOULD HAVE DEPLOYED IT ALREADY. MANY OTHERS WOULD HAVE DEPLOYED IT ALREADY. WHEN WE HAVE HIGH BARRIERS TO EMPLOYMENT, IT'S COMPLICATED. THERE ARE LOTS OF VARIABLES EACH CASE IS DIFFERENT. WE TRY TO FIGHT THAT CHALLENGE EVERY DAY.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE CHILD CARE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SINGLE PARENTS WHO NEED ASSISTANCE TO GO BACK TO WORK. THAT'S A BIG FACTOR IS HAVING THEIR CHILD CARE NEEDS MET TO ALLOW THEM TO GO BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE AND WORK THAT JOB WHATEVER SHIFTS THE EMPLOYER MAY REQUIRE. THAT'S A BIG BARRIER.

HIRING PEOPLE THAT ARE JUSTICE-INVOLVED, BIG BARRIER. A LOT OF EMPLOYERS ARE HESITANT TO DO SO. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN SAN ANTONIO. A LOT OF PEOPLE READY TO WORK WHO FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY WHO HAVE GOTTEN THAT CREDENTIAL AND TRAINING. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THE ECOSYSTEM AND THE EMPLOYERS TO GET MORE OF THEM OPEN TO THE BUSINESS CASE FOR HIRING PEOPLE FROM THAT CATEGORY.

THEY ARE TALENTED. MORE EMPLOYERS HAVE TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF IT IN ORDER TO BRING THEM ONBOARD. WE ITERATE AND REMOVE OCCUPATIONS, TRAINING PROGRAMS NOT PRODUCING THE OUTCOMES, TIGHTEN THE BELT TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS OCCUR. THOSE BARRIERS ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY OVERNIGHT. THOSE CHALLENGES AREN'T GOING TO DISAPPEARMENT OUR PARTNERS ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THE WORK. THAT'S THE BEST ANSWER I CAN GIVE.

AND THERE'S PEOPLE WHO GO TO COLLEGE, FOUR YEAR INSTITUTIONS AND GET A DEGREE AND HAVE A CHALLENGE LOOKING FOR WORK.

OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS STILL LOW, BUT IT'S CONTINUING TO CREEP UP.

LAST WAS IN AUGUST ONCE THE GOVERNMENT GETS THOSE REPORTS BACK, I ANTICIPATE THAT NUMBER BEING HIGHER ON FEEDBACK I'M HEARING FROM EMPLOYERS AND LOOKING AT FROM JOB SEEKERS SEEKING WORK RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE TO STAY DILIGENT BECAUSE THE FLEET ISN'T GOING -- NEED ISN'T

GOING TO GO AWAY. >> I THINK THAT TIES TO THE COMMENTS MADE THAT YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE. I DO KNOW AND KIND OF TYING BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN WAS SAYING IS THAT THE INTENT FOR READY TO WORK IS NOBLE. AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A QUICK FIX. WE KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SILVER BULLET. KIND OF TO SOME OF BEN'S POINTS, TOO, IT DOES GET NEGATIVE PUBLICITY AND I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY.

SO WHAT THAT MESSAGING LOOKS LIKE OR HOW WE GET OVER THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO ANSWER TO OUR RESIDENTS. THEY ARE OUR BOSS.

IT'S HARD TO SAY, YEAH. THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND STILL 12

MONTHS LATER THEY ARE NOT FINDING A JOB. >> YEAH.

WE CAN SHIFT OUR MESSAGING. THE DASHBOARD MAY BE A

MISTAKE. >> IT'S NOT THE MESSAGING. IT'S THE

MESSAGE. YOU KNOW, OPEN -- >> I SAY THAT, MAYOR.

YOU LAUGH AT IT, BUT I SAY THAT BECAUSE THIS IS UNIQUE.

YOU DON'T SEE THIS. LIKE IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THE DASHBOARD AWAY AND YOU WERE TO JUST PUT OUT THAT 70% OF PARTICIPANTS HAVE A JOB IN READY TO WORK, WHICH IS A TRUE STATEMENT. IT WOULD GET LESS

SCRUTINY THAN IT DOES NOW. >> OKAY.

YOU FINISHED YOUR COMMENT. SO -- BUT ALL OF THAT TO SAY, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M JUST LEAVING WITH YOU ALL, THE CHALLENGE I'M LEAVING WITH YOU ALL IS, AGAIN, THAT NUMBER IS -- I DO

THINK IT SHOULD BE SCRUTINIZED BECAUSE THAT ]. >> MOVING ON TO SLIDE 8,

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>> FEBRUARY 2026 IT WILL BE AVAILABLE. >> GOT IT.

LET'S SEE. REALLY THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS, ALEX, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE ADVISORY BOARD EXTENSION AND A END PHMENT.

THAT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE.

>> THANKS, MAYOR. CAN I JUST ASK YOU SOMETHING STRAIGHT OFF THE JUMP? I WENT AND LOOKED BACK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT READY TO WORK FOR THE 2023 REPORT. I WAS LOOKING AT, I GUESS, SLIDE 8 HERE, YOUR ROI STUDY, 1.7 BILLION DOLLARS PROJECTED RETURN ON INVESTMENT. THAT IS ASSUMING THAT ALL 3,345 READY TO WORK PARTICIPANTS THAT WERE ENROLLED, THAT ROI, THE 1.7 BILLION IS ASSUMING THAT ALL OF THEM GET FULL-TIME JOBS.

>> INCORRECT. ADVERTISE BAD BASED ON A PERCENTAGE AFTER THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM AND THAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVING MAINTAINED THAT JOB FOR 20 YEARS. IT'S OUT OF A 20-YEAR

PERIOD. >> WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE PARTICIPANTS WERE

WE ASSUMING GOT JOBS? >> IT WAS IN THE STUDY, BUT I HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK TO YOU ON WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE WAS. HE WAS USING THE MATH OF WHAT THE ACTUAL OUTCOMES WERE AT THE TIME. IT WAS A MUCH SMALLER JOB PLACEMENT NUMBER OF THAT 300 ACTUAL PARTICIPANTS ENROLLED.

HE WAS USING THE APPROVED JOBS. >> WHEN YOU SAY OVER THE CAREERS OF 3345, YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT TO GET THAT 1.7 BILLION, IT'S A

SMALLER NUMBER. >> CORRECT. >> OUT OF THAT 3,000.

>> CORRECT. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MATH ON THE 3200 THAT HAVE GOTTEN JOBS ALREADY, IT'S 106 MILLION OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT OVER TWO YEARS, YOU'RE AT $2 BILLION IN IMPACT OVER THE 3200 IN INCREASING WAGES ALONE.

HIS EQUATION ONLY HAS 471 MILLION IN INCREASE IN INCOME OVER 20 YEARS FOR THOSE PARTICIPANTS. IT'S FAR OUTREACHING THAT. HIS CALCULATION WAS ACTUALS AFTER THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM.

>> JUST REAL QUICK, ONE. REASONS WHY WE'RE UPDATING THAT ROI STUDY IS BECAUSE THE ROS STUDY THAT THE COUNCILMEMBER IS REFERRING TO WAS DONE PRIOR TO THE PROGRAM WITH SERNA SUMMINGSES. WE'RE UPDATING THE ROI WITH ACTUAL STATS OF WHAT WE'VE LEARNED. THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING BACK THROUGH THAT TO RECONCILE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL.

>> OKAY. AND SO THIS NEW ROI STUDY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE VERIFIED WAGE AND JOB RETENTION DATA IN IT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> OKAY. AND THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE, THIS IS NOW, I GUESS, THE THIRD YEAR THAT I'VE SAT IN HERE AND LISTENED TO A PRESENTATION ON READY TO WORK, AND I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE ARE CONTINUING TO TRY TO SPIN THE NUMBERS AND THE RESULTS OF THIS PROGRAM TO PUT A GOOD IMAGE ON WHAT WE'VE DONE.

WE JUST GOT TO STOP DOING THAT. IF IT'S SCRAPPING THAT INCUMBENT WORKER PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK I MAY SUPPORT BECAUSE THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT IT JUST SIMPLY IS NOT WORKING, WE NEED TO DO THAT. I MEAN, WE NEED, I THINK, A FRESH LOOK AT WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE DOING HERE. AND HONESTLY, I MEAN, I SUPPORT WHAT THE MAYOR'S GOAL FOR 90% PLACEMENT WITHIN 90 DAYS. I MEAN, TO ME, THAT IS THE EXACT KIND OF THINKING THAT WE NEED WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROGRAM LIKE HE CAN THIS. I MEAN, WE ALL SAID, OH, IT STARTED OFF SLOW. IT'S GETTING BETTER. IT'S GETTING BETTER.

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WHAT NOW IS THE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT TO PLACING PEOPLE IN GOOD PAYING JOBS WHEN WE'RE THROUGH THE PROGRAM? WHAT YOU'VE TOLD ME THE LAST TWO YEARS IS THAT IT'S THE EMPLOYERS WEREN'T -- THE FOLKS THAT WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROGRAM DIDN'T FIT WITH THE EMPLOYERS NEEDS. I THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT THIS PROGRAM FROM THE BACK FRONT. IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

WHAT DO THE EMPLOYERS NEED AND THEN LET'S TRAIN THE FOLKS TO FILL THOSE JOBS. ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES HERE, TOWARDS THE END WHEN YOU DO SCENARIOS THAT YOU LAY OUT, ON SLIDE 20, IT CAUGHT MY EYE, IT'S SLIDE 22, SCENARIO THREE JOB ORDERS ONLY, MOST DIRECT ALIGNMENT WITH EMPLOYER HIRING NEEDS. I MEAN, WHATEVER THE HECK WE'RE DOING HERE, TO ME, THAT IS THE LINE RIGHT THERE.

WE NEED TO ALIGN WITH WHAT THE EMPLOYERS WANT.

BUT ANYWAYS, WHAT IS OUR BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT RIGHT NOW?

IT'S THE SAME. >> THAT ALIGNMENT, YOU HAVE TO GET IT.

THIS IS COMPLICATED. IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK IT IS. IT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS FOR THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN OPERATING THIS PROGRAM IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE TRAINING FOR IS ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE NEED. IT STARTED WITH THAT TASK FORCE THAT THE CITY COMPILED THAT ALEX TALKED ABOUT, GETTING THE EMPLOYERS' INPUT TO DESIGN THE CONSTRUCT OF THE PROGRAM BASED ON THAT EMPLOYER NEED, ALIGNING IT TO THE LOCAL PLAN THAT EMPLOYERS GAVE FEEDBACK INTO WHAT AREAS ARE GOING TO SEE GROWTH HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND THAT LED TO 80-PLUS OCCUPATIONS. NOW WE HAVE TWO AND A HALF YEARS WORTH OF DATA FOR WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING, AND THE READY TO WORK BOARD AND OUR STAFF AND OUR PARTNERS ARE WORKING TO NARROW THAT LIST DOWN TO GET IT TIGHTER, BETTER OUTCOMES FOR PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE PROGRAM. THAT'S THE WORK THAT'S BEEN OCCURRING THROUGHOUT THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF READY TO WORK.

>> OKAY. AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE MAKING SOME STRIDES

THERE? >> WE'RE MAKING SIGNIFICANT STRIDES.

IF YOU SEE THE JOB PLACEMENT RATE ACCELERATING IN JUST ONE YEAR, INCREASE BY 107% OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS BEFORE, BIG GROWTH.

OUR JOB PLACEMENT RATE GETTING HIRED FASTER IS GOING TO CONTINUE TOKING A SELL RATE AS WE NARROW THE OCCUPATIONS FOCUSING ON ONES GETTING THE RIGHT RESULTS FOR OUR PARTICIPANTS. AS WE TRIM DOWN TRAINING PROGRAMS OR GETTING DOLLARS FROM READY TO WORK, ONLY FOCUSING ON ONES QUIPPING PEOPLE WITH SKILLS THAT ARE GOING TO GET THEM WORK,

THOSE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO GET BETTER. >> THOSE PARTNERS IN THE BEGINNING HERE WE'RE WORKING WITH TO CARRY OUT THIS PROGRAM, I

MEAN, ARE THERE ACCOUNTANT MECHANISMS AUDIO ] >> WE HAVE PLANS IN AREAS --

HELP THEM GET BETTER. >> WELL, COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN MADE THE CASE FOR THE PROGRAM EARLIER, AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SHE SAID.

I MEAN, THE IDEA OF READY TO WORK IS VERY NOBLE.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD SCRAP IT. EARLIER, I THINK THE CHAIR SAID THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE PROGRAM, AND IF I CAN TAKE A LITTLE ISSUE WITH THAT, I MEAN, I THINK, AGAIN, THE IDEA OF IT IS INCREDIBLE.

BUT IT HASN'T BEEN INCREDIBLE UP TO THIS POINT.

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>> FIVE MORE YEARS. >> WE HAVE FIVE MORE YEARS.

I THINK NOW IS A REALLY GOOD TIME TO TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT EACH ASPECT OF WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS ARE GETTING THEIR MONEY'S WORT OVER THESE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

>> COUNCILMEMBER GALVAN. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I WANT TO START OFF, I GUESS, WITH READY TO WORK -- IT'S THE FIRST OF ITS KIND. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING BUILT AS IT WAS BEING CREATED. TO ME, IT'S ON A SHORT TIME.

I THINK WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH, INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS WE DO ALL THE TIME FOREVER AS LONG AS WE CAN HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT. THIS ONE IS A LIMITED WINDOW.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT IS THAT AS WE ARE WORKING TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM MORE EFFECTIVE, WE HIT THE STRIDE AS IT'S MID WAY OR FURTHER ALONG. I JUST ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN I THINK ABOUT READY TO WORK. I HAVE PLENTY OF CRITIQUES. I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF THIS PROGRAM WERE A PERMANENT PROGRAM, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT VERSUS A MEET BY THIS TIME LINE OR IT'S GONE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WAYS WE CONTINUE MAKING THIS EFFORT ALL THE WAY THROUGH BECAUSE I THINK IT'S TRULY NEEDED. I THINK EDUCATIONAL ACHIEVEMENT IS TRULY NEEDED. I'LL LEAVE THAT THERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THOSE POINTS REALLY QUICK. I DO HAVE QUESTIONS.

I'M GOOD WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD CHANGES AS WELL. I'LL GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WANTED TO ASK WAS, ARE WE STILL ON TRACK WITH THE ORIGINAL GOALS FOR THE JOB PLACEMENT GOALS, OR DO YOU FORESEE WE NEED TO CHANGE SOME OF THESE GOALS AS WE GO

THROUGH THE PROGRAM? >> WE ARE CONTINUING TO TRACK THAT. AGAIN, 14,000 ENROLLMENT, 5200 COMPLETIONS. WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE COMPLETERS ACTUALLY OBTAINING JOBS IS GOING TO DICTATE WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HIT OUR JOB PLACEMENT GOAL. WE HAVE 5,000 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN TRAINING RIGHT NOW THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETERS. SO AS WE TRACK OUT, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HIT THAT GOAL? IF WE CAN KEEP THE PACE OF JOB PLACEMENTS AND DOUBLE THAT PLACE AGAIN NEXT YEAR, THEN WE'RE SITTING HERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WITH 5,000 TO 6,000 PLEASEMENTS. NOW YOU'RE A THIRD OF THE WAY TO THE JOB PLACEMENT GOAL. IT WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE RELATED TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO COMPLETE TRAINING.

HALFWAY TO THE TRAINING ENROLLMENT GOAL, WE ANTICIPATE HITTING THE JOB PLACEMENT GOAL AS WELL AS THEY ARE PLACED INTO EMPLOYMENT.

I HAVE TO PUT AN ASTERISK ON THAT THAT IT WAS -- THAT NUMBER 15,600 IS BASED UPON US GETTING 80% OF THE TRAINING PROGRAM COMPLETERS INTO AN APPROVED JOB. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 70% INTO AN APPROVED JOB WITHIN A 12-MONTH TIME PERIOD.

WE'RE TRACKING 10 POINTS DOWN FROM WHERE WE'RE AT OVERALL 70% OF PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE COMPLETED TRAINING HAVE JOBS RIGHT NOW TO DATE REGARDLESS OF TIME. THE 15,600 NUMBER DOESN'T HAVE A TIME ON IT, BUT TRACKING AT 70% JOB PLACEMENT, WE'RE TEN POINTS BEHIND WHERE WE

SHOULD BE IN ACHIEVING OUR 15,600 GOAL. >> GOT IT.

OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. I GUESS DO WE TRACK -- DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF -- I'M SURE WE TRACK IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE IT OR WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE FOLKS ARE AT WITHIN THE TRAINING? ARE THEY 20% OF THE WAY THERE? 50% OF THE WAY THERE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN LOOKING A THE SOME OF THE NUMBERS WE LOOK AT IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT HERE'S THE FOLKS ENROLLED, AND IT'S LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ENROLLED BUT NOT -- DO WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS?

>> ON OUR DASHBOARD ON OUR TRAINING SECTION, AT THE BOTTOM BAR THERE'S A RIBBON THAT SHOWS WHO IS EXISTING TRAINING WITHIN I WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THOSE SCENARIOS FOR PIVOTS. WHAT ARE THE -- DO WE HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT OCCUPATIONS ARE NOT MEETING OUR JOB

PLACEMENT GOALS? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE THAT DATA.

THERE'S QUITE A FEW OCCUPATIONS THAT AREN'T MEETING OUR JOB PLACEMENT GOAL. ONE THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND BELIEVE THEY ARE IN STRONG DEMAND AND YOU TALK TO A GROUP OF EMPLOYERS AND THEY TELL YOU WE NEED THEM ASAP YESTERDAY, BUT OUR JOB PLACEMENT RATES WITHIN THOSE OCCUPATIONS AREN'T MEETING OUR 6-MONTH

PLACEMENT GOALS TODAY. >> I SEE. >> WE CAN PROVIDE YOU

WITH THAT LIST. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK WHAT I WORRY

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FOR SCENARIO TWO? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> TWO IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE. THAT IS IMMEDIATE SHIFT.

RIGHT NOW, FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S 70

>> DO WE EXPECT COST SAVINGS FOR THE ACTUAL TRAINING AND FOR

PARTICIPANTS? >> I DON'T SEE ANY COST SAVINGS IN THAT STANDPOINT, BUT IT WILL BE A MORE EFFICIENT JOB PLACEMENT TRACK FOR SURE BECAUSE THEY ARE -- SCENARIO THREE IS ONLY TIED TO ORDERS FROM THE EMPLOYER CONTRACTUALLY FROM THE EMPLOYER. THE VOLUME WILL DECREASE BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THOSE ORDERS THAT COME IN.

IT COULD FLUCTUATE. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE BOUND BY.

>> YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT SCENARIO TWO. RIGHT?

>> YES, I WAS. >> I'M SORRY. >> YOU'RE GOOD.

>> IT WOULD BE SOFT CAVINGS. -- COST SAVINGS BECAUSE WE WOULD FOCUS ON HIGH DEMAND ONLY. YOU HAVE 70 OCCUPATIONS HERE NOW. IT WOULD GO DOWN 15 OR 12.

WE WOULD SPEND LESS OVERALL WITH THE GOAL OF HITTING THOSE JOB

PLACEMENT MARKS. >> DO WE ANTICIPATE SOME PARTICIPATION RATES? I KNOW THE INITIAL WOULD BE REDUCED. DO WE STILL -- INTEREST

IN READY TO WORK WITH THE FOCUSED INDUSTRIES. >> I DON'T THINK INTEREST IN READY TO WORK IS GOING TO GO AWAY. EIV THIS THE BIGGER CHALLENGE IS THE TRAINING CAPACITY FOR THOSE REDUCED PATHWAYS WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR TRAINING PROVIDERS AND PARTNERS AND EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS TO BUILD MORE TRAINING SEATS SO WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE THROUGH SO WE CAN MITIGATE WAIT LISTS THAT MAY OCCUR.

>> IF I MAY, CAN YOU PAUSE THE TIME SO I DON'T EAT INTO HIS TIME. THE LOGIC OF LET'S DOUBLE DOWN ON DOING THE THINGS THAT ARE GETTING PEOPLE 90% OF THE FOLKS IN A JOB WITHIN 90 DAYS, LET'S DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT, THAT IS -- THE LOGIC IS DO WHAT'S WORKING. THE FIRST APPROACH IS A GRADUAL REDUCTION OF WHAT'S NOT -- LIKE THAT'S ELIMINATING WHAT ISN'T WORKING VERSUS FOCUSING ON WHAT IS WORKING. IT'S COMPLETELY THE INVERSE APPROACH OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S 70

JOBS THAT SOMEBODY CAN PICK FROM. >> RIGHT.

>> GIVEN THE PUBLIC RESOURCES, I DON'T CARE WHAT SOMEONE'S INTERESTED IN. I'M MUCH MORE INTERESTED IN WHAT ACTUALLY WORKS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE FINDING A JOB.

I THINK WHAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHAT COULD MAKE SCENARIO TWO MORE SUCCESSFUL IS HOW DO WE ALSO MARKET -- I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY POWERFUL FOR SOMEBODY TO READ, IF I DO THIS READY TO WORK PROGRAM AND I'M WILLING TO DO ONE OF THESE 7 THINGS, I'M LIKELY TO HAVE A JOB IN 90 DAYS. I WOULD BE MAKING 4 2 K. THAT IS VERY POWERFUL. I'M NOT SURE WE'VE MESS LEE NARCOTIC ETED IT -- NECESSARILY MARKETED THE HIGH SUCCESS PLACEMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT WAY, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT

WOULD HELP SCENARIO TWO. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, MAYOR. MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE GETTING PLACE MANIES

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WE GOT YOU A NEW JOB AND YOU'RE STRUGGLING DAY TO DAY.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT. RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE A JOB THAT AREN'T HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH READY TO WORK STRUGGLING WITH THESE THINGS.

I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT IS SEPARATE AND DISTINCT.

I THINK WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE AT LEAST PUT THEM ON A PATH WITH TRAINING TO MAKE A WAGE THAT INCREASES THEIR LIKELIHOOD OF BEING SUCCESSFUL. WE HAVE OTHER B SESSIONS TO FOCUS ON THOSE TOPICS

AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. I'M STUCK BETWEEN THESE FOR THOSE REASONS. I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A NEED AND A FOCUS THERE ESPECIALLY WHEN I THINK ABOUT EDUCATION COMPONENT.

I THINK IT'S A PASSION OF MINE. I THINK ABOUT THE ISSUE WITH FOLKS -- WITH THE NEED FOR MORE EDUCATORS IN OUR COMMUNITY LOOKING AT EARLY CHILDHOOD AND LOOKING AT PRE-K AS WELL THAT NEEDING THOSE FOLKS IN THE INDUSTRY THERE AND THE OCCUPATIONS ARE THERE.

IF WE'RE NOT DOING THAT TRAINING, I HOPE THAT WORK CONTINUES.

THERE ARE BARRIERS THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO --

>> PERFECT. PERFECT.

] >> I CAN REALLY SAY WHATEVER I WANT TO SAY.

>> THE INPUT PROVIDED, CAN YOU STILL INCORPORATE THAT? CAN MIKE STILL LISTEN OR NOT? HE HAS TO COMPLETELY

IGNORE EVERYTHING FROM NOW ON. >> HE HAS TO IGNORE EVERYTHING. WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AS THE MEETING IS DONE.

IT'S OVER. WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MAYOR, YES -- IT CAN BE CONSIDERED. I KNOW THAT'S AN UNSATISFACTORY LEGAL ANSWER. WE HAVE TO TREAT IT LIKE

THE MEETING IS DONE. >> LET ME MAKE A SUGGESTION.

YOU CAN ALSO END THIS MEETING, HOLD THIS, AND WE TAKE IT UP AT COUNCIL AT THE VERY END OF COUNCIL. WE HAVE A SHORT COUNCIL MEETING TOMORROW. THAT WAY IT'S AN OPEN SESSION AND THAT INPUT

CAN CONTINUE. >> DEBBIE, IS IT A RECESS OR A -- END THE

MEETING. >> ERIK, WE DIDN'T POST FOR THAT, SO WE

CAN'T -- >> IT'S HELD OVER. >> WE CAN RESET --

>> CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

WE DIDN'T POST IT FOR TOMORROW. >> WHAT ABOUT ANDY, THE CLERK WAS JUST SAID, YOU RECESS THE MEETING SO IT DOESN'T FINISH.

IT'S A CONTINUATION OF YESTERDAY'S. IT'S PART OF A SESSION.

IT'S A B SESSION, CONTINUATION. >> HOLD ON.

IF IT'S A CONTINUATION OF THE MEETING, IT HAS TO BE ON THE SAME DAY,

MAYOR. >> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

OKAY. SO WHEN IS THE -- ERIK, YOU'LL HELP US FIND A TIME WHERE WE CAN FINISH THIS CONVERSATION. OKAY.

MIKE, THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM FOR THE PRESENTATION AND MORE TO FOLLOW. THANKS. OKAY.

THE MEETING IS 5:30 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 12TH, AND THIS

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