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ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I APOLOGIZE AGAIN.

WE WERE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE TODAY.

UM, BUT I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GOOD THANKSGIVING.

GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT FOR SPANISH SPEAKERS, UH, HERE ATTENDING.

UM, WE WANNA START THIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

MY NAME IS JOHN BUSANTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.

THE TIME IS ONE 11 AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.

UH, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.

JOHN KELLY, DANNY KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10 MOSES VE, DISTRICT NINE MIA LOS DISTRICT TWO.

GEORGE OSA, DISTRICT THREE.

EDDIE P RODRIGUEZ, DISTRICT FOUR AND COMMISSIONER CHASE JAMELE CHASE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

ALRIGHT, STAFF, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YES.

SO QUORUM IS PRESENT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

AGAIN, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY, BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR HEARING TODAY, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF.

IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.

THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES.

UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.

STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.

PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THAT SUBJECT, PROPERTY CHECK MARKS WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.

FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST.

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.

YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE TWO MINUTES ARE UP.

FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES.

THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.

AND PLEASE ANNOUNCE THAT WHEN THAT SPEAKER'S GOING UP TO THE PODIUM, THAT YOU ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY WITHDRAWN

[Zoning Items  ]

OR POSTPONED ITEMS? WE DO NOT.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE LIST THE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON OUR COMBINED HEARING.

NUMBER ONE, OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 7 8 9 10 11 13, 17, AND 18.

AND WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR THOSE ITEMS. VERY GOOD.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

ANY COMMISSIONER.

WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS CURRENTLY LISTED ON CONSENT TO INDIVIDUAL LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE.

IF WE COULD PLEASE READ OUR COMBINED HEARING.

NUMBER ONE CONSENT AGENDA INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM RM FOUR TO R TWO LOCATED AT 1510 EAST HOUSTON STREET.

ALL OVER LA REMAIN THE SAME.

32 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

NUITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONE FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE OF FOUR DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1450.

THAT GAGA STREET ALL OVER RELEASE.

REMAIN THE SAME.

50 NOTICES MAILED

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DOWN.

ZERO IN FAVOR.

ZERO.

POST PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WEST END HOPE IN ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.

ITEM NUMBER NINE, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE TO ZONING FROM MF 33 TO MF 33 S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING CAMPUS LOCATED AT 30 38 EISENHOWER ROAD.

ALL OTHER OVERLAYS REMAIN THE SAME.

88 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

OAK PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND WOODBRIDGE CONDOMINIUM HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.

NUMBER 10.

A REQUEST FOR CHANGES ONLY FROM I TWO TO C TWO LOCATED AT 33 10 NORTH INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35.

ALL OTHER REMAIN THE SAME.

EIGHT NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR OF ZERO POSTS.

THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ITEM NUMBER 11, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM I ONE TO C3 LOCATED AT 47 22 REDMAN ROAD.

ALL OTHER OVERLAYS REMAIN SAME.

20.

NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED.

PARK VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.

ITEM 13, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE ZONING FROM MF 33 TO BUDD MF 33.

GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE ONE, I'M SORRY, 10,000 BLOCK OF LAMODA STREET.

ALL OTHER RELEASE REMAIN THE SAME.

51 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED VIA THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.

I'M ALSO NOTING THAT THE UH, P MF 33 IS WITH A REDUCED PERIMETER SETBACK OF 10 FEET.

ITEM 13.

ITEM 13.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO THAT'S AMENDED ON THAT BASIS.

NO, IT'S NOT AMENDED.

I'M JUST CALLING TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THE REQUEST.

I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

ITEM NUMBER 17.

I REQUEST FOR A CHANGES OWNER FROM R FOUR TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 5 0 5 ARBOR PLACE.

ALL OTHER RELEASE REMAIN THE SAME.

23 NOTICES MAILED TWO IN FAVOR.

ZERO POST WEST.

SENT HOPE IN ACTION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE IN FAVOR.

ITEM NUMBER 18, A REQUEST FOR CHANGES ON FROM R FIVE TO I ONE LOCATED AT 5 72 6 0 5, 6 0 6 AND 6 0 7 POP GUN DRIVE.

ALL ORDER RELEASE REMAIN THE SAME.

17 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED? THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

BEFORE WE GO ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT, IF I COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR ITEM NUMBER 17 PLEASE.

OKAY.

UH, I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE GOING TO BE AMENDING THIS APPLICATION SPECIFICALLY A LINE IN THE SITE PLAN WILL BE REMOVED? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, I'M ANISA SHELL WITH ORTIZ MCKNIGHT, REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE THE LINE ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, REGARDING LOCATION OF USES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

SO 17 WILL BE AMENDED SUCH THAT THE SITE PLAN WILL NO LONGER HAVE THE LINE THAT READS LOCATION OF USES.

ALL REQUESTED USES ARE PERMITTED ON ENTIRE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, IF WE COULD HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.

SAMUEL WEBB.

MR. WEBB, IF YOU WOULD TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.

MY NAME IS SAMUEL WEBB SENIOR AND I LIVE AT 1719 ARBOR PLACE.

OKAY.

THIS IS FOR ITEM 17.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, I'M KIND OF A NOVICE.

I DIDN'T GET TOGETHER WITH THE, GET A LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION, BUT I'VE LIVED AT 1719 ARVA PLACE.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I'M 81 YEARS OLD.

I WAS BORN AT THAT PARTICULAR ADDRESS.

I MOVED BACK IN OH SEVEN.

NOW THE, THE, THE, THE RESIDENT IN QUESTION IS 1450 AND UM, THAT'S THE OLD RIDGE, UH, RESIDENT.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING, UH, APARTMENTS.

UH, THEY DON'T HAVE NO IDEA HOW DARK IT GETS BACK THERE .

SO IF THEY GOING THROUGH THE LIGHTING AND ALL THAT, I GUESS I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO, WELL ANYWAY, I'M GONNA GET ANYWAY, THEY STRIP CARS NEXT DOOR, 1715 AND UH, I'M NOT HERE TO ADDRESS THAT.

I'M HERE TO ADDRESS 1450, BUT I AM OPPOSED TO IT.

I GET SOME MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, BUT I JUST WANNA REGISTER MY OPPOSITION.

VERY GOOD, MR. WEBB.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 5 0 5 ARBOR? NO, NO, WE TALKING ABOUT 1450 DELGADO.

OKAY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1450 DELGADO.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

UH, IS THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE HERE FOR 1450 DELGADO? YES.

CAN YOU TALK TO MR. WEBB ABOUT THIS? THANK YOU.

UM, YEAH, SO, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ON POINT.

NO, NO, MR. WEBB.

I APPRECIATE IT.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A OPPOSITION IS ALL, EXCUSE ME.

MY OPPOSITION IS ALL I I I'M REGISTERED.

THIS IS, SO THIS IS A RECOMMENDING BODY, SIR.

OKAY.

AND SO WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL.

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CITY COUNCIL WILL THEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY YOU CAN GO SPEAK TO THEM AGAIN.

OKAY.

UM, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU TALK TO THE APPLICANT WHO IS THE CASE MANAGER ON THIS CASE.

FORGIVE ME, I SHOULD KNOW.

ALRIGHT.

ALEXA, BETWEEN THESE TWO FOLKS, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

AND, UM, I THINK YOUR CONCERNS, UH, ARE GOOD.

BUT I THINK GIVEN THE PLAN, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA BE A BIG CONCERN ONCE YOU GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO THESE TWO FOLKS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND, AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.

NO, NO.

MR. WOOD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN.

ALRIGHT, NEXT PLEASE.

PETER EUBANKS.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS PETRA EUBANKS AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY, UH, MY ADDRESS.

MY BUSINESS IS 1512 EAST HOUSTON.

AND THE, THE CASE NUMBER THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S, UH, 1510 EAST HOUSTON Z 2 0 2 5.

I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO READ ALL THAT.

THE CA THE CASE IS HERE IS THAT, UM, THERE'S A BUSINESS, AND THIS IS A LOT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD ON.

IT'S NOT 15 FEET WIDE AND IT'S 30 FEET DEEP AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A SI A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW, BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU TAKE THREE FEET OFF OF EACH SIDE AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE ONE LONG A BUILDING AND IT'S GONNA BE TWO STORY, I GUESS TO MAKE IT A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.

THERE'S PIST BAR ON ONE SIDE AND THEN THERE'S THIS LITTLE TINY LITTLE SPOT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD ON.

AND THEN THERE'S MY GALLERY NEXT DOOR.

IT GETS EXTREMELY BUSY AT NIGHT.

IF YOU'LL GO TO PTA, PASH BAR, YOU'LL SEE CARS LINED UP EVERYWHERE.

LOUD MUSIC.

I'M NOT THERE DURING THE, DURING THE NIGHT 'CAUSE I'M GONNA HAVE A GALLERY.

BUT I'M TELLING YOU THAT IT'S NOT A, A GOOD PLACE FOR A FAMILY DWELLING.

ALSO, IF IT'S GONNA BE A NARROW LITTLE BUILDING, IT'S GONNA BE TWO STORY, I GUESS.

AND THAT WILL HINDER, UH, THE LIGHT AND EVERYTHING FROM MY TREES AND EVERYTHING TO MY PROPERTY.

AND I OPPOSED THIS.

UM, I SHOULD HAVE COME TO THE FIRST MEETING AND I DIDN'T, BUT I'M HERE NOW.

BUT, UM, ANY QUESTIONS? UM, MS. EUBANKS? UH, I DON'T THINK SO.

COMMISSIONER LO.

ALRIGHT.

UM, DO YOU KNOW WHO THE APPLICANT IS ON THIS? NO.

OKAY.

UM, WHO'S THE CASE MANAGER ON THIS ONE? ALEXA, I APOLOGIZE.

ALEXA RATANA.

ALEXA.

ALEXA.

WHO'S OUTSIDE? OKAY.

UH, WHY DON'T YOU CHAT WITH HER? OKAY.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A RECOMMENDING BODY.

UH, OKAY.

SO YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS OKAY.

WITH ALEXA, THE CASE MANAGER ON THIS CASE.

OKAY.

AND, AND ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS YOU MIGHT HAVE AFTER THAT WITH CITY COUNCIL.

WELL, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

IS THERE ANY RULES OR REGULATIONS OF HOW SMALL YOU CAN, YOU CAN BUILD SOMETHING? 'CAUSE THIS IS JUST GONNA BE 10 FEET WIDE.

YES MA'AM.

THOSE ARE ALL IN THE UNI UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT UHHUH CODE AND IN THIS CASE IT IS AN R TWO PROPERTY.

UH, SO THAT SECTION REGARDING R TWO WOULD DO IT AND ALEXA CAN HELP YOU OUT WITH, UH, THOSE RESTRICTIONS.

OKAY? THANK YOU MA'AM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MS. UBANK.

OH YEAH.

COMMISSIONER LO.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT THERE'S A ZONING DIRECTOR FOR DISTRICT TWO IN THE COMMISSION, IN THE DISTRICT TWO OFFICE.

HIS NAME IS DEL BROOKS.

HE CAN REACH OUT TO YOU AS WELL TO HELP, HELP CLARIFY THIS.

'CAUSE AFTER THIS BODY MOVES ON, IT'LL GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND HE, HE'LL BE MANAGING IT THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

DEL BROOKS, UH, HE, WHERE DO I, SO IF YOU GO ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY WILL GIVE THAT INFORMATION ADDITIONALLY.

ALEXA OR SOME OTHER STAFF MEMBER? YEAH, THE CA CASE MANAGER.

ALEXA, GO OVER THAT WITH YOU.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU MS. EUBANK.

NEXT PLEASE.

JOEL, THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

ALRIGHT.

OR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UM, IN LIGHT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, DOES ANY COMMISSIONER WANT TO PULL ANY ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL LOOKING LEFT? SEEING NONE.

LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.

LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM 7 8 9 10 11 13 17 AS AMENDED AND 18.

ALRIGHT, I'LL SECOND IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.

UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF 7 8 9 10 11 13 17 AS AMENDED AND 18 BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINO HOSA, UH, DISCUSSION LOOKING LEFT? YES.

COMMISSIONER DULL.

SO I, I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON ITEMS 10 AND 11.

IT'S A SAME QUESTION.

UM, IT JUST WASN'T CLEAR FOR ME FROM THE STAFF REPORT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE DOWN ZONING WAS AND WHO INITIATED THE REQUEST TO REZONE BOTH REQUESTS.

ANY REQUEST BASICALLY WOULD BE BY THE APPLICANT, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN FOR 10 THEY WERE BASICALLY WANTING TO DO A RETAIL.

AND THE SAME FOR ITEM, UM, 11 ITEMS THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED IN INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

I SEE.

SO THE HIGHER ZONING WAS ACTUALLY MORE,

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UH, CORRECT.

IT WAS LESS PERMISSIVE THAN THE LOWER ZONING? THAT IS CORRECT.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

SEEING NONE REMOTELY.

SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

AGAIN, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 7 8 9 10 11 13 17 AS AMENDED AND 18 BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER LO? YES.

COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES.

COMMISSIONER VO AYE.

COMMISSIONER WIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR BUSMAN.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

IF YOU ARE PRESENT FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, THOUGH, I, THOSE ITEMS ARE NOW GOING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO IF YOU ARE THE APPLICANT, GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO TAKE IT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UM, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

UH, MS. EUBANKS, AGAIN, MS. TANA IS OUT THERE, YOU CAN SPEAK TO HER.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE OUT THERE TOO.

BUT IF Y'ALL, UH, WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE JUST DID, GOOD LUCK.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

STAY WARM.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR CONTINUANCE HEARING FOR, UH, THE 1216 MEETING ITEMS REQUESTING CONTINUANCE TO THE 1216 MEETING ARE ITEM NUMBER 2 12, 14, AND 16.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, IS THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR CONTINUING ITEMS. 2, 14, 12, I'M SORRY.

AND 16 TO DECEMBER 16TH.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

AND, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO 1216? YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? UH, HE FORGOT TO MENTION 12.

UH, HE DID SAY 12.

HE DID.

OH, HE DID? YEAH.

THEN SECOND.

I'LL SECOND IT.

OKAY.

YEP.

I'M, I'M GOING WITH PETE RODRIGUEZ, UH, FOR THE SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING TO MY LEFT.

SEEING NONE.

LOOKING TO MY RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE.

I'M GONNA EVENTUALLY MAKE, UH, THERE'S NO REMOTE DISCUSSION.

UM, UH, I MESSED UP THE JOKE.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

THE MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE 1216 MEETING OF ITEMS 2, 12, 14, AND 16 BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

COMMISSIONER LO? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES.

COMMISSIONER VE AYE.

COMMISSIONER WIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR BUSMAN.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEMS 2, 12, 14 AND 16, UH, YOU'LL BE CONTINUED AND WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS.

SO YOU CAN GO ABOUT AND AGAIN, PLEASE STAY WARM.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEM AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER SIX.

SAUCE.

OKAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SAMANTHA.

BE ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS LOCATED AT 22 50,000 OAKS DRIVE.

GOING FROM C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C TWO CDS COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES.

OUTDOOR TRAINING, BOARDING RUNS, PENS OR PADDOCKS PERMITTED.

AND A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES.

OUTDOOR TRAINING, BOARDING RUNS, PENS AND PADDOCKS PERMITTED OVER THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITHIN 200 FEET.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH ESTABLISHED LAND USE DESIGNATIONS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OR ZONED C3 COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND C3 S COMMERCIAL, UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR VETERINARY HOSPITAL.

SMALL ANIMAL, NO OUTSIDE RUNS, PENS AND PADDOCKS PERMITTED.

THE EXISTING C3 DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED C TWO CDS DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.

THE REQUEST IS TO PERMIT AN OUTDOOR KENNEL AREA

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FOR THE EXISTING DOG CA DOG DAYCARE, S DOG DAYCARE OVER THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE.

GIVEN THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND IS ACCESSORY TO AN EXISTING USE.

STAFF FINDS THAT IT MEETS THE LOCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEVELOPMENT.

ADDITIONALLY, THE SUBJECT AREA HAS ACCESS TO A MINOR SECONDARY ARTERIAL, WHICH CAN HANDLE ANY POTENTIAL INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ADDITIONALLY, SAS IS HERE TO PRESENT THEIR FINDINGS.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE THE SAS REPORT.

ALL RIGHT.

MIKE ESCALANTE WITH SAW AQUIFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION.

UH, WE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED AT 22 5,000 OAKS DRIVE, ALLOWING FOR AN OUTDOOR KENNEL.

THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE LUCY'S DOGGY DAYCARE FACILITY PREVIOUS, PREVIOUSLY BUILT IN 1986.

THEREFORE, NO ADDITIONAL IMPERIOUS COVER WILL BE ADDED.

UH, NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES NOR FLOOD PLAIN WERE DOCUMENTED ON SITE.

WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE SAS REPORT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. ESCALANTE.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE TWO MICS BACK.

ALRIGHT, IS THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE HERE? WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS.

I'M ROB KILLEN, ATTORNEY WITH LAW FIRM OF KILLEN GRIFFIN IN FAIRMONT.

OUR ADDRESS IS 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

WE'RE PULLING UP A, UM, POWERPOINT HERE.

DO I HAVE CONTROL? IS THIS MY CONTROL? THAT'S OKAY.

I'LL JUST START TALKING WHILE THEY'RE PULLING THAT UP.

UH, AND WHEN YOU PULL UP, JUST GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I HAVE CONTROL IT HERE.

UM, ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, I WAS STILL A RELATIVELY YOUNG, UH, LAWYER AND I GOT A CALL FROM A GUY NAMED MAX AND MAX HAD A FULL-TIME JOB, BUT HE TOLD ME ABOUT HIS LOVE OF DOGS, PARTICULARLY HIS AUSTRALIAN SHEPHERD NAMED LUCY.

AND HE SAID, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP A DOGGY DAYCARE.

I SAID, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY AMBITIOUS.

WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE BUSINESS NOW? NOT MUCH, BUT I THINK I CAN FIGURE IT OUT.

I LOVE DOGS.

AND WE MET OUT ON SITE THIS PROPERTY ON ON THOUSAND OAKS AND HE NEEDED SOME ZONING HELP.

WE GOT HIM THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS 20 YEARS AGO AND, AND THEY CONTINUED TO EXPAND.

THERE WERE SEVERAL LOOSIES, DOGGY DAYCARES AROUND THE CITY.

TWO YEARS AGO, MAX CALLED AND SAY, HEY ROB, YOU'RE ARMY.

I SAID, OF COURSE I REMEMBER YOU.

LUCY IS EVERYWHERE NOW.

HE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS AND WE ARE READY TO SELL.

WE'VE GOT SOMEONE WHO'S GONNA COME IN IS GONNA SHOW THE SAME DOGS KIND OF CARE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE LAST, AT THAT TIME, 18 YEARS.

AND SO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE DUE DILIGENCE SELLING THESE SITES.

SO HE ASKED US TO GET SOME ZONING VERIFICATION LETTERS FOR THEIR EXISTING SITES, INCLUDING THIS ONE ON THOUSAND.

'CAUSE THE VERY FIRST ONE, THE ONE WE'D WORKED ON, UH, INITIALLY, UH, GOT 'EM STARTED.

AND SO WE, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND ADVANCE THE SLIDE.

THANKS.

SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY.

IT'S ON THOUSAND OAKS.

AND SO WE GOT THE ZONING VERIFICATION LETTERS BACK AND, AND EVERYTHING WAS GOOD EXCEPT FOR THIS PROPERTY.

SO IF YOU CAN SEE THAT WOODED AREA IN THE FRONT THAT IS, IT WAS, IT'S JUST AN ISLAND IN THE PARKING LOT, BUT REALLY NICE PARKING LOT.

AND WE'D DONE THIS 20 YEARS AGO, WE GOT IT ENTITLED FOR OUTDOOR DOG RUNS, PLACE FOR THE, THE DOGS TO PLAY.

BUT WHEN WE GOT THE ZVL BACK, WE DISCOVERED THAT WE'RE ZONED PROPERLY FOR OUTDOOR DOGS OUT FRONT.

BUT THERE'S THIS LITTLE STRIP IN THE BACK WHERE 15 YEARS AGO THEY BUILT THE PINS AND PADDOCKS FOR DOGS JUST SO THEY COULD BE OUTSIDE SOME OF THE TIME.

AND, UH, IT WAS NOT ZONED, UH, PROPERLY.

SO, UH, WE'RE HERE, UH, BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ASK TO BE REALLY JUST CORRECT WHAT WAS IN, UH, THAT, UH, REALLY AN OVERSIGHT ON THEIR PART.

THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE ZONED PROPERLY OPERATED FOR 15 YEARS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM, WITHOUT ANY CONCERNS, CODE COMPLIANCE.

IT WASN'T UNTIL THE SALE AND WE WENT THROUGH THE ZVL PROCESS THAT WE DISCOVERED THAT IT WASN'T PROPERLY ZONED.

SO THE FIRST THING WE DID, IT WAS NO, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A ZONING CASE.

REACHED OUT AND STARTED TALKING TO THE NEIGHBOR RIGHT BEHIND US, WHICH IS, LET'S ADVANCE THE SLIDE IF WE CAN.

THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AREA OUTLINED IN YELLOW.

SO TO THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.

IT'S A LITTLE OFFICE COMPLEX.

AND, UH, TALKED TO THE, THE OWNER THERE ADDRESSED THE CONCERNS, QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAD, UH, AGREED TO BUILD THEM A BRAND NEW FENCE.

THERE'S A BRAND NEW FENCE THAT HAS BEEN BUILT ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE AND THEN START THE ZONING PROCESS.

SO WE STARTED THE ZONING PROCESS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

UH, SO I WENT TO, AT THAT TIME, COUNCILMAN COURAGE, UH, COMMISSIONER MARCOS STARTED WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IT'S OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE.

SO, UH, MOST OF OUR WORK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD HAS BEEN WITH SAW.

SO MIKE, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT SAW STAFF DID IN REVIEWING THIS SO WE CAN, WE CAN ADVANCE SOME PRETTY PICTURE THAT'S JUST WORTH, LET'S, LET'S KEEP, LET'S, LET'S GO BACK TO THAT ONE WITH THE ZONING MAP.

HERE YOU GO.

LET ME, LEMME SHOW 'EM THE ZONING MAP, BUT WE'VE GOT THIS UP.

SO THERE IT ZONE C3 E-Z-D-E-R-Z-D.

AND THEN THE

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FRONT PORTION, THAT WOODED AREA WITH THE DOG RUN IS, IS C3 ERZD WITH AN S FOR OUTDOOR ANIMAL SERVICE.

BUT IT WAS ON A, IT'S ON A DIFFERENT PLATTED LOT.

SO THE S FOR OUTDOOR DIDN'T APPLY TO THIS LITTLE STRIP THAT WE, UH, HAD THE PADDOCKS THAT WE'RE REZONING NOW.

SO, UH, STARTED THE ZONING CASE AND STARTED WORKING WITH SAWS.

SO, UH, EMILY WEISER AND I WENT OUT THERE WITH PAW WHO REPRESENTS THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH THE SAWS TEAM, WALKED THE SITE, LOOKED AT HOW THE WATER FLOWS OFF THE PROPERTY, AND THAT WAS SAWS.

BIG CONCERN IS WE'VE GOT ANIMAL PADDOCKS THERE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING WATER QUALITY.

SO DID A REAL DEEP DIVE, UH, OVER A NUMBER OF MONTHS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT SAWS ALL THEIR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS WERE ANSWER.

IN FACT, THE ONE NOTE THAT CAME BACK IN OPPOSITION TO SAY, HEY, IT'S OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE, SHOULD YOU LOOK AT IT? AND I'LL TELL YOU, SAWS DID, UH, ALL OF THEIR PROPER DUE DILIGENCE, UH, AS DID OUR, UH, FOLKS ENGINEER.

SO THAT'S IT, IT'S A SIMPLE STORY, BUT IT'S INTERESTING.

IT'S SOMETHING I STARTED AT THE BEGINNING OF MY CAREER AND NOW KIND OF CAME BACK IN THE MIDDLE OF MY, NOT THE END OF MY CAREER, THE MIDDLE OF MY CAREER, UH, TO COME BACK AND, AND REALLY KIND OF CLOSE THIS OUT.

SO I'VE GOT A FEW MORE SLIDES, BUT, UH, REALLY IT'S, UH, THESE ARE THE PADDOCKS THEMSELVES.

UH, YOU CAN SEE BEHIND THEM THAT'S THE BRAND NEW FENCE THAT WAS BUILT, UH, IN WORKING WITH A A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER.

SAWS DONE.

UH, AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT THE DRAINAGE AND ALL OF THAT.

SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A WEIRD LITTLE STRIP AND, UH, AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

UH, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE.

UH, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT VERY FEW THINGS ON INDIVIDUALS, SO YOU PROBABLY WANNA GET OUTTA HERE EARLY, BUT I DO WANNA ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

UH, THANK, THANK YOU MR. KILLEN.

UH, I CAN'T IMAGINE YOU RETIRED, SO IT'S PROBABLY AS THE MIDDLE OF YOUR CAREER.

.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT, THEN YOU DON'T GET A REBUTTAL.

THIS IS A DISTRICT NINE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER ELL TO YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ACTUALLY FIRST FOR STAFF.

WOULD THAT BE ALRIGHT? UH, SO IN WORK SESSION WE WERE TALKING ABOUT S AND C.

SO SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATIONS AND CONDITIONAL USE AUTHORIZATIONS.

UM, SO JUST COULD YOU CLARIFY FOR US WHY ON THIS CASE IS THERE A CD AND AN S BEING REQUESTED? SO BASICALLY THE CD, IT'S AN ITEM SINCE THEY'RE WANTING THE OUTDOOR ASPECT TO IT.

THE INDOOR IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN A C TWO OR A C3, BUT IT IS NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

IT IS ONLY PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN LIKE THE HIGHER INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

SO THAT'S WHY THE CD IS THERE BECAUSE WE'RE BRINGING JUST THAT ONE USE DOWN TO THAT BASE ZONE OF C TWO.

THE S IS NEEDED BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE ERZD AND THE ERZD REQUIRES AN S FOR THE OUTDOOR ASPECT OVER THE ERZD.

GREAT.

AND THEN JUST TO CONFIRM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY HISTORY OF CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES, CORRECT? NO ISSUES AROUND THE USE OF NO SIR.

DEPENDS IN THE BACK.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, SO GIVEN THAT IT'S AN S UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE, THE SAS REPRESENTATIVE I COULD INVITE YOU TO COME BACK UP.

MR. BARR, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF? SURE.

UH, MICHAEL BARR WITH THE RESOURCE PROTECTION DIVISION, ME AND MIKE WORK TOGETHER DOING THE SAME THING.

YES SIR.

HOW CAN I HELP YOU? RIGHT.

SO GIVEN THAT WE'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSED TO APPLY ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY FOR THE YES MM-HMM .

UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF YOU COULD SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT SAWS HAD IN THEIR REPORT AND WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, YOU PLACED ON THE PRO ON THE PROJECT AND, UH, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS APPROVED.

WHAT, WHAT'S THE PLAN TO CONTROL, UH, AND MITIGATE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS? SURE.

I THINK MR. KILLEN ACTUALLY ANSWERED IT PRETTY WELL.

UM, WE DID MEET ON SITE, WE HAD SOME CURRENT CONCERNS BECAUSE OF RUNOFF.

ANY POSSIBLE RUNOFF FROM THE DOG PADDOCKS, WE DON'T WANT THAT GOING OFF INTO THE CREEKS, THE WATERWAYS, THE RECHARGE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT GOES TO THE PROPER, UM, PERMANENT STORM WATER TREATMENT DEVICE.

UM, THIS REPORT IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST ER ZD ONES YOU'VE SEEN.

I KNOW YOU'RE A NEW COMMISSIONER.

TYPICALLY THE REPORT IS ABOUT FIVE OR SIX PAGES LONG.

THIS IS AN ABBREVIATED VERSION BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY AN EXISTING FACILITY.

UM, WE DON'T, UM, HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITATIONS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE CATEGORY DETERMINATION IN THIS ONE, WHICH IS A WHOLE NOTHER PROCESS.

I DON'T WANNA WASTE Y'ALL'S TIME ON THAT.

IT'S A LONG, BUT ANYWAY, UH, IT WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE RUNOFF OF ANY DOG WASTE.

UM, AND WE WANT TO ENSURE IT WAS TREATED PROPERLY.

UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S GONNA BE GOING INTO THE SANITARY SEWER, WHICH IS GOOD.

UH, INITIALLY, UM, IT WAS GONNA BE, I THINK THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IT RUNNING OFF, UH, SURFACE AND WE DIDN'T LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, WE MET ON SITE.

WE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. KILLEN AND EMILY AND ON THE PHONE, ON EMAILS, AND WE MET ON SITE ONCE OR TWICE WITH PAP TOSS AND, AND THEY KIND OF RAN IT BY US, WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO TO ENSURE THAT THE TREATMENT WAS TREATED

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PROPERLY.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

SURE.

YOU BET.

THANK YOU MR. BARB.

ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR STAFF.

SO IT'S A CONDITIONAL YOUTH AUTHORIZATION.

UH, SO I'M, I'M I'M BACK TO, UH, MY, MY FAVORITE QUESTION ON CONDITIONAL YOUTH AUTHORIZATIONS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONDITIONS THAT YOU AS STAFF MIGHT, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND WE CONSIDER? UM, ESPECIALLY IF, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY WAS LATER TRANSFERRED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SOLD TO ANOTHER OPERATOR.

ANY CONDITIONS WE WANT, WANT TO ENSURE, UM, ARE DONE TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS FOR NOISE OR WE HAVEN'T ADDED ANYTHING TO OUR STAFF REPORT, SO WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING ANYTHING.

BUT AGAIN, IT IS UP TO Y'ALL TO MAKE, TO DO YOUR, SUGGEST YOUR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE SHOULD HAVE THAT LIST IF YOU NEED ANOTHER COPY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE CAN ADD AS A CONDITION.

SO THAT IS UP TO Y'ALL.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT FOR ME.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

VE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? SEEING NONE ON MY RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE.

VERY GOOD.

UH, COMMISSIONER DUVAL TO YOU THEN FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING STATE OF THE, UH, THE SPACE OF THE, THE, THE PADDOCKS AND RUN IS THEY HAVE SOME NICE SCREENING FROM THE PARKING LOT, WHICH ON IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT WITH, WITH FENCING.

UM, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THOUGHT OF WHETHER TO CONSIDER A PROTECTIVE SCREENING TO, TO REQUIRE THAT THEY MAINTAIN THAT PROTECTIVE SCREENING.

SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE AN OPEN CHAIN LINK FENCE.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT MUCH OF A BIG DEAL.

BUT INTERESTED IN HEARING ALL YOUR THOUGHTS BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION, MR. KILTON? OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UM, COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT, A WRITTEN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER TO MAINTAIN THAT FENCE.

SO WE INSTALLED IT AND SO WE'VE GOT A WRITTEN AGREEMENT.

I DID NOT BRING IT FOR SUBMISSION TO THE RECORD, BUT I CAN PROVIDE IT TO YOU AFTERWARDS IF YOU'D LIKE.

I, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY FINE, UNLESS IF ANYONE ELSE THINKS IT'S A CONCERN, BUT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEING WELL MAINTAINED NOW.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A, UH, A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UM, OF THE ITEM I SECOND.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX BY COMMISSIONER UL WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINA HOSA DISCUSSION.

LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE AGAIN.

THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX BY COMMISSIONER DUVAL WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.

ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER VE YES.

I RATHER I, COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER LO.

YES.

COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES.

COMMISSIONER WIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR BUSTAMANTE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

UH, VERY GOOD.

MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS ITEM NUMBER ONE.

THANK YOU GUYS.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

FOREST WILSON, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO ITEM NUMBER ONE IS LOCATED AT 7 0 1 INDIANA STREET.

UM, IT'S GOING FROM RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT TO IDZ ONE, LIMITED INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS, UH, WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 47 NOTICES SENT.

FOUR RECEIVED IN FAVOR, UH, THREE OPPOSED DENVER HEIGHTS.

NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND THERE WAS ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.

SO THE, UM, THE EXISTING ARMED FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED IDZ ONE LIMITED INTENSITY WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.

PROPERTY IS SITUA SITUATED ALONG A LOCAL ROAD IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, COMPRISED OF ONE FAMILY AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO BUILD THREE SEPARATE TWO STORY DWELLING UNITS WITH TWO PARKING SPOTS, SPOTS EACH.

THE, UH, ADJACENT LOT TO THE EAST IS, IS AN EXISTING DUPLEX AND THE SURROUNDING ZONING OF R FOUR ALLOWS UP TO FOUR DWELLING UNITS IN A SINGLE STRUCTURE, UH, ON LOTS UNDER ONE ACRE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY THE PROPOSAL ALIGN WITH THE, UM, GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND PROVIDES ADDITIONAL HOUSING STOCK TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU MR. WILSON.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE AND IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS GEORGE TORRES.

UM, I LIVE AT, UH, SIX 11 LAY STREET HERE IN, UH, IN THE LOCA NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND I AM PROPERTY OWNER OF 7 0 1 INDIANA STREET.

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UM, PRESENTATION.

I, UH, OTHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN HERE, UM, WHY DON'T WE GET UP THE SITE PLAN AND IF YOU COULD JUST TELL US WHAT, WHAT YOU ENVISION HERE.

YEAH, SURE.

HAPPY TO WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE.

UM, YEAH, THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT OF, OF WHAT I'M PROPOSING.

UM, ESSENTIALLY IT'S THREE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, DETACHED.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOT IS ZONED RM FOUR.

SO, UM, I COULD DO AN APARTMENT BUILDING OR A TRIPLEX.

UM, HOWEVER, I FEEL LIKE, UH, THREE INDIVIDUAL DETACHED UNITS IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I MEAN THERE, THERE DO EXIST DUPLEXES AND, AND, UH, EVEN THREE STORY HOUSES.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND WITH, IN INFILL DEVELOPMENT, USUALLY DENSITY IS A FACTOR.

UM, AND WHEN I PURCHASED A LOT, IT WAS ALWAYS MY INTENT TO, UM, TO DEVELOP SOMETHING, UM, OTHER THAN JUST ONE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOME, WHICH I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORS WOULD PREFER, UH, HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE SUMMARY OF THAT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. TORRES.

MM-HMM .

ALRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT.

VERY, UH, UH, YEAH, SORRY, I THINK SHE CAME IN A LITTLE BIT LATE.

SHE WAS HERE LAST TIME.

YEAH.

SO WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU JUST GO GIVE YOUR NAME, SIGN IN OVER THERE AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL BRING YOU UP.

SUE PERKINS? YES SIR.

YES.

MS. PERKINS, IF YOU WOULD TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND UH, YOUR POSITION.

UH, MY NAME, MY NAME IS LO SUE PERKINS.

UM, MY ADDRESS IS 200 DOUGLAS WAY.

I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND WHERE THIS GENTLEMAN IS TALKING ABOUT AND I KNOW THEY SAID THEY MAIL OUT LETTERS AND ALL THAT.

I'VE NEVER RECEIVED A LETTER FROM ANYONE IN REGARD OF HOW THEY WAS GONNA DO THIS LAND.

AND HE WAS SEND, HE'S PULLING IN THREE SEPARATE, TWO STORY DWELLINGS.

OKAY.

AND ANOTHER ONE I CONCERN IS SINCE THAT'LL BE FACING THIS WAY, RIGHT BEHIND THERE IS OUR PROPERTY AND WAS ALWAYS AFRAID, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, CATCH A FIRE OR SOMETHING, WE ALL GONNA SUFFER ON THAT CORNER.

AND ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERN THAT WE STILL DO HAVE IS THE CHILDREN AND UH, YOU KNOW, GOING BACKWARDS AND FORTH TO SCHOOL'S, VERY CONGESTIVE, IF ANYONE EVER BEEN OVER THERE BETWEEN PINE AND HACKBERRY DURING, WHEN SCHOOL TIME IS OUT, IT'S VERY CONGESTED ALSO WHEN THE DAY WHEN THEY'RE GIVING OUT FREE STUFF, THE STREET IS BLOCKED FROM INDIANA AND ALL, ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO THE NEVADA STREET.

THEY'RE JUST, HOW MANY PARENTS GO TO THAT SCHOOL, HOW MANY PARENTS PARTICIPATE IN THAT KIND OF STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND I ALSO OUR CONCERNED IF IT WAS CATCH A FIRE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, MY HOME WHERE IT IS NOW, I HAD ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE A TRAILER HOME, BUT THE CITY TOLD ME NO BECAUSE IF THE TRAILER HOME CATCH ON FIRE, EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS GOING UP IN SMOKE.

SAME WAY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALREADY LIKE REAL CLOSE ON THAT AREA AND THAT'S WHEN OUR MAIN CONCERN AND YOU KNOW, EVEN THEY TALKING ABOUT A DRIVEWAY AND I'M GOING STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, PUT THE THREE HOUSES THERE AND THEN PUT THE THREE DRIVEWAYS AND PARK 'EM.

'CAUSE THERE'S REALLY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO PARK ON THE STREET BECAUSE OF THE CONGESTION, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE SCHOOL TIME IS OUT OR WHEN THEY'RE GIVING OUT SOMETHING AND IT'S VERY BAD.

BUT NOW OUR CONCERN IS IF THEY'RE DOING THE, WHERE DID HE GO? HE'S RIGHT BACK HERE.

YOU'RE BUILDING TWO STORIES OR 3, 2, 2 STORIES.

I CAN COMPLAIN.

I HAVE A LITTLE TWO STORY HOUSE, BUT MINE JUST IS ON THE CORNER AND THERE'S, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GOING UP AND THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE IS ON THE LITTLE FENCE LINE, MINE IS RIGHT THERE ON THE FENCE LINE AND YOU KNOW IT'S GONNA BE SOME INTERFERENCE.

SO, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO VISUALIZE THAT MANY HOUSES ON THAT AREA EVEN THOUGH THEY SAYING THEY CAN BUILD 'EM THERE.

THANK YOU MS. PERKINS.

OKAY, THAT'S YOUR TIME.

OH, I APPRECIATE IT.

MY TIME IS UP.

THAT'S YOUR TIME, BOY.

I WAS JUST GETTING STARTED.

OH, THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT, MR. TORRES, YOU HAVE A BRIEF REBUTTAL IF YOU WANNA TAKE IT.

UH, I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT YOU DISCUSS THE PARKING IN PARTICULAR.

UM, OKAY, SO TO ADJUST THE PARKING, JUST TO RECAP THE, THE THREE UNITS, UM, THERE'S TWO THAT FACE SOUTH OLIVE AND THEN ONE THAT FACES, UH, INDIANA.

ALL OF THEM DO HAVE A DRIVEWAY.

UM, AND THE HOUSES DO HAVE A GARAGE.

SO TWO, UM, TWO SPACES ON

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ONSITE, UH, FOR EACH UNIT.

AND THEN I'VE SPACED THE, UM, THE HOUSES APPROPRIATELY SO YOU CAN HAVE ON STREET PARKING AS WELL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET AND, UH, TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN.

I DID CALL THE SCHOOL AND I'VE, UH, HAVE CORRESPONDENCE WITH THEM THAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THE TRAFFIC SITUATION.

BUT, UH, THE FRONT OFFICE, UH, NEVER EXPRESSED ANY TRAFFIC ISSUES.

UM, AND THEY SAY THAT THE, THE TRAFFIC DOES RUN SMOOTHLY, UM, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY.

THERE ARE NO PARKING SIGNS, UH, DURING THE, UH, PICKUP AND DROP OFF HOURS.

UM, I DID PROPOSE THAT THAT IS A, AN OPTION FOR, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, SINCE IT IS, UM, AN, YOU KNOW, A, A CONCERN.

UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, ANYONE LIVING AT THIS PROPERTY, IF, IF THEY DO HAVE, UH, SMALL CHILDREN OR A YOUNG FAMILY, UM, THE KIDS ARE GONNA WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND IT'S, THEY'RE NOT GONNA DRIVE.

SO, UM, SO THAT WOULD BE MY, UM, REBUTTAL TO THAT.

SO THANK YOU MR. TORRES.

IF YOU'RE DONE, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF NECESSARILY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE COMMISSIONER LO TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.

YES.

IF THE APPLICANT COULD COME BACK UP.

SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE TO STAY UP HERE.

UM, SO I KNOW WE TALKED PREVIOUSLY, AND THIS HAS BEEN CONTINUED OF A COUPLE WEEKS AND YOU HAD A, I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU HAD A TI A CHANCE TO CHECK IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON THIS.

YES, I REACHED OUT A COUPLE TIMES.

UM, HOWEVER I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM THEM, SO, SO AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE, AND I BIKE THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF CASES SIMILAR TO THIS IN THE DENVER HEIGHTS AREA.

UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HEARD AT ZONING COMMISSION FROM DENVER HEIGHTS WAS THE LACK OF GREEN SPACE AND THEN PARKING, AND THEN ALSO CONGESTION, WHICH I THINK YOU KIND OF ADDRESSED SOME OF THE PARKING OPTIONS AND CONGESTION.

BUT I WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU'VE CONSIDERED GREEN SPACE IN THE SITE PLAN, IF THAT'S AN OPTION, OR IF THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S DISCUSSED OR BEEN BROUGHT UP TO YOU PREVIOUSLY TO THIS.

UM, IT HAS AND UH, IN TERMS OF GREEN SPACE, THAT UNIT ONE HAS A, A FAIRLY LARGE, UH, FRONT YARD, WHICH IS SET BACK, UH, TO RESPECT THE, THE FRONTAGE OF THE, THE STREET.

UM, UNITS TWO AND THREE DO HAVE A SMALLER FRONT YARD.

UM, AND IN ORDER TO, TO INCREASE THE, THE GREEN SPACE, I GUESS ON SITE, UH, I WOULD PROBABLY, THEY HAVE TO REDUCE THE UNITS.

SO CURRENTLY THE, THEY HAVE ABOUT 1800 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS A, A THREE BED, TWO BATH, UM, WHICH I FEEL IS KIND OF THE, THE MARKET, UM, YOU KNOW, DESIRE NOWADAYS.

UM, SO IF I WERE TO SHRINK THE FOOTPRINTS, UH, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT GOING POTENTIALLY THREE STORIES, WHICH AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE CORRECT SOLUTION.

SO AGAIN, WANTING TO BE RESPECTFUL TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORS, THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

THANKS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LO, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT? YES.

COMMISSIONER BEL FOR STAFF, UH, WAS THERE A, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WORKSHEET IN THIS CASE? SO BECAUSE THE REQUEST IS FOR IDZ, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT WOULD BE WAIVED.

SORRY, DID I SAY PARKING? I MEANT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WORKSHEET.

SO THERE, THERE WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SUBMITTED, BUT IT WON'T BE FULLY REVIEWED UNTIL PERMITTING.

I SEE.

BUT IT AND THE IDZ ALSO WAIVES TIA REPORTS, SORRY, TTA AND TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WE JUST CALL IT TIA FOR SHORT.

GOT IT.

SO IT DOES WAIVE THE ANALYSIS.

YEAH, SO ANYTIME, UH, IDZ INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE IS SOUGHT, IT WAIVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE TIA WORKSHEET AND ANALYSIS.

BUT I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT THREE DWELLING UNITS IS NOT ENOUGH TO WARRANT, UH, ANY SORT OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT TO THAT INTERSECTION.

GOT IT.

SO, SO THE, THE TIA DEALS WITH WHETHER PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE REQUIRED, IS THAT HOW THE STATUTE WORKS OR, YEAH, SO THE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED IN ORDER FOR THE CITY'S TRAFFIC UNIT TO DETERMINE WHAT SORT OF EXACTION, IF ANY, THE PROJECT MAY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY GONNA HAVE TO DEDICATE LAND, WIDEN THE STREET, PROVIDE A DECELERATION LANE, THREE DWELLING UNITS IS NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH TO WARRANT ANY OF THAT.

GOT IT.

YEAH, I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T REVIEWED ONE BEFORE, SO I WASN'T SURE WHAT THEIR ANALYSIS WAS.

BUT I GUESS THEN, SO ON CASES LIKE THIS, THE CITY ISN'T DOING AN ANALYSIS ABOUT EXISTING TRAFFIC CONDITIONS OR, YOU KNOW, PAIN POINTS ABOUT CONGESTION THAT'S NOT INCLUDED WITHIN THE WORKSHEET, THEN IS IT, IT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED IN THIS INSTANCE BECAUSE THE WORKSHEET ITSELF IS NOT REQUIRED.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S IT FOR ME.

THANK YOU THAT YOU COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT FURTHER QUESTIONS.

SEEING NONE COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.

YES.

COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA? UH, YES, I HAD A QUESTION.

MR. TORRES, DID YOU SAY THESE ARE GONNA BE RENTALS OR ARE THEY GONNA BE NO, THEY'LL BE FOR SALE.

FOR MARKET.

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FOR SALE.

OKAY.

YES.

AND THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE THREE TWOS, THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATHS? YES.

TWO STORY, YES.

UM, UH, STAFF DID, I THINK I HEARD YOU MENTION BECAUSE IT'S IDZ THAT WAIVES THE PARKING? THAT IS CORRECT REQUIREMENT.

CAN YOU REMIND ME AGAIN WHY IS THIS GONNA BE IDZ? THAT, SO, UM, I THINK PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS IF YOU'RE DOING, IF YOU TRY TO DEVELOP IT AS CURRENTLY IS WITH RM FOUR, ALL OF THE UNITS WOULD HAVE TO BE IN ONE STRUCTURE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT? REMOTELY? QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, MR. TORRES, I HAVE ONE BRIEF QUESTION.

UM, YOU MENTIONED YOU LIVE IN LA VACA, CORRECT.

UM, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED POSSIBLY HAVING A CARPORT INSTEAD OF A GARAGE ON THESE BUILDINGS? UM, I, WELL, SINCE THEY'RE TWO STORY, THE, THE GARAGE THEN WOULD HAVE TO BE OPEN AIR.

SO IT, I MEAN, IT IS AN OPTION.

UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IT, IT COMPLICATES THINGS A LITTLE BIT OR SO.

SO LET ME TELL YOU WHY THAT, THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION.

YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT.

UM, PEOPLE TEND TO USE GARAGES FOR STORAGE AND SO WE LOSE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT REQUIRED HERE UNDER THE IDZ, IT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS, AS YOU GO FORWARD, IF YOU END UP DEVELOPING SOMETHING ELSE.

UH, BECAUSE THAT MAKES ME FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE SITUATIONS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKING, ESPECIALLY AROUND SCHOOLS IS AN ISSUE.

UM, BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

WOULD YOU CONSIDER IT IN THE FUTURE? UH, YEAH, SO THE, THE GARAGES DO HAVE A, A SPACE FOR, FOR ONE VEHICLE AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL DEPTH TO IT FOR, YOU KNOW, QUOTE UNQUOTE STORAGE IF THERE WAS A, A WORKBENCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, SO IT'S NOT, UH, LIKE MINIMAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT, UM, A LITTLE OVERSIZED IN TERMS OF THE DEPTH.

BUT, UM, IF ALL ELSE FAILS, I WOULD CONSIDER IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. TORRES.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER LOUP TO YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE ON THE LEFT? FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE RIGHT REMOTELY? ALRIGHT, AGAIN, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, SO COMMISSIONER LOUP TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.

YEAH, I WANNA SAY THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME.

I KNOW WE GAVE YOU THE CONTINUANCE AND I THINK IT BENEFITED TO HELP BE ABLE TO TALK TO PEOPLE.

I ALSO, I KNOW YOU ADJUSTED THE, THE PARKING AND KIND OF ADDRESSED THOSE CONCERNS, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A LOT OF THESE LOTS.

WE, THIS COMMISSION SAW A VERY SIMILAR CASE MAYBE A MONTH AGO, ALMOST IDENTICAL.

DIDN'T THAT THEY HAD GREEN SPACE.

YOU DID NOT HAVE GREEN SPACE.

YOU NOW HAVE SOME GREEN SPACE.

SO, UM, APPRECIATE THE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT WERE MADE AND KIND OF THE ADJUSTMENTS AND RESPONSE TO NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS.

UM, I THINK CONTINUE TO BE IN CONTACT WITH THE NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA.

JUST TO BE A, A GOOD, GOOD LANDLORD.

GOOD NEIGHBOR, OR I GUESS A GOOD OWNER SINCE THESE ARE FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.

UM, BUT I, THIS IS, UM, THE KIND OF, THE KIND OF BUILDING WE WANT IN IDZ AND WHAT WE WANT FOR THE AREA.

SO I'M GONNA MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE REQUEST FOR A REZONING.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM.

UH, ALRIGHT.

DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT.

ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.

DISCUSSION TO MY RIGHT.

YES.

COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, UH, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

UH, BASICALLY US BEING AN EDUCATOR FOR 20 YEARS, MY WIFE AND I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SCHOOL RIGHT NEXT DOOR, IT'S SAIZ.

WE WANNA BRING IN MORE FAMILIES TO THE AREA, ESPECIALLY THE EAST AND SOUTH SIDE OF OF TOWN.

UM, I WORKED AT POE MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IS DOWN THE STREET BASICALLY FROM, FROM THIS AREA.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT, IT'S, I I THINK IT'S GREAT TO BRING IN, BRING IN, UM, HOUSING TO, TO SOMETIMES WE GET STUCK IN THAT GREEN SPACES, BUT WHO'S GONNA SUPPORT THAT GREEN SPACE? WHO'S GONNA MAKE MONEY OFF OF THAT, RIGHT? IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY FOR THE MOST PART.

BUT I, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I, I WAS KIND OF WEIGHING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION IS AGAINST IT, BUT, UH, BEING SO CLOSE TO A SCHOOL THERE IS GONNA BE SOME CHALLENGES AS FAR AS LIKE CERTAIN TIMES DURING THE DAY WITH PARKING, BUT I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE MORE CHALLENGING FOR THE ACTUAL OWNERS OF THE HOUSE.

I LIKE THE FACT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A RENTAL, THAT IT'S GONNA BE A HOME OWNERSHIP, UM, UH, PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA COMMISSIONERS.

TO MY RIGHT PETE RODRIGUEZ DISCUSSION, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY WOULD CONSIDER THE CARPORT, UH, AS MR. ANTE COMMISSIONER ANTE RECOMMENDED.

UM, JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE AND I DON'T PARK MY CARS IN THERE.

IT'S ALL STORAGE.

SO ALL THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.

UH, COMMISSIONER CHASE DISCUSSION.

ALRIGHT, BRIEFLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC ABOUT AROUND SCHOOLS.

UM, THAT IS A TREMENDOUS CONCERN.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S TYPICALLY TWO TIMES A DAY DURING

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THE SCHOOL YEAR, ON SCHOOL DAYS.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, IDEALLY NO ONE'S STOPPING PARKING, BLOCKING THESE DRIVEWAYS.

UM, AND SO THERE IS SOME HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, BY PUTTING THESE HOUSES AND THESE DRIVEWAYS HERE, THAT IT WILL MAYBE EVEN POTENTIALLY KEEP THE FLOW A LITTLE FASTER AND CERTAINLY NOT IN FRONT OF THESE PROPERTIES.

UM, WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE FIRE CONCERNS THAT MS. PERKINS BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING THE CODE PROCESS THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A ZONING CONSIDERATION, BUT MS. PERKINS, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN TWICE HERE.

UH, MR. TORRES, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH MS. PERKINS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS, UH, AS YOU GO FORWARD.

ALRIGHT, AGAIN, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER LO ON ITEM NUMBER SIX WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER LO? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES.

COMMISSIONER DOABLE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER WITS? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR BUSAN.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, MR. TORRES, YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY TO CITY COUNCIL.

UH, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO TAKE THIS ITEM.

THERE WE ARE.

NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.

I, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ALEX RATANA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED AT 10 34 HAMMOND AVENUE.

GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 27 NOTICES SENT OUT.

FOUR IN FAVOR.

FIVE OPPOSED WITHIN THE 200 FEET HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.

THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MUCH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BENEFITS FROM THE BETA R FOUR CONVERSION, WHICH ALREADY PERMITS DUPLEXES FOR THE LOTS.

STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED FOURPLEX WILL ALIGN WITH THE PERMITTED DENSITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE HELD TO THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN, WHICH OUTLINES DEVELOPMENT ASPECTS SUCH AS BUILDING SIZE PARKING, AND BUILDING SETBACKS AND DEVIATION FROM THE SUBMITTED DOCUMENT COULD POTENTIALLY WARRANT ADDITIONAL PUBLIC REVIEW.

THE PROPOSAL ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS AS THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF ADDITIONAL HOUSING STOCK TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AMEND THEIR REQUEST TO R FOUR CD, UM, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS.

ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

HUMBERTO 1650 WEST ATCH.

UM, YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.

WE THINK THAT A DUPLEX WOULD BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT'LL BE ABLE TO ALLOW US TO DIVIDE THE STRUCTURE INTO TWO DWELLING AND BE ABLE TO ATTRACT MORE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.

UM, WE WANT TO, WE WANNA BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT WAY.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND TWO DWELLING UNITS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO HAVE PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

OKAY.

UH, JESS SPEAKERS? VERY GOOD.

YES.

BETH CARR.

AND MS. CARR, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US YOUR ADDRESS.

UM, MY NAME IS BETH CARR AND I LIVE AT NINE 15 HAMMOND AVENUE.

UM, I'M THE TREASURER OF THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOES NOT AGREE FOR REZONING TO THREE OR FOUR APARTMENTS FOR 10 34 HAMMOND AVENUE.

THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS NO OPINION ON TWO APARTMENTS, A DUPLEX.

UM, THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD IS MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS OF 10 34 HAMMOND TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE REZONING TO A DUPLEX.

AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE THE RESIDENCE, THE HP AND A WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.

THANK YOU MS. CARRP.

DEANNA VASQUEZ.

MY NAME IS, UH, .

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MY NAME IS, UH, WAIT.

MY NAME IS DEANNA VASQUEZ.

I LIVE IN 1 0 5 0 HAMMOND.

AND AS A NEIGHBOR AND AS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BLOCK AND AS A CITIZEN, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING NOW THAT THE LANDLORD OR THE INVESTORS IS IN AGREEMENT WITH A DUPLEX.

THIS UNDERSTANDING WILL BE BOUGHT AS MS. CARS SAYS TO THE HIGHLAND PARK ASSOCIATION.

ITS COMMUNITY, ITS CITIZENS AND NEIGHBORHOOD AS, AND I COME HERE AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN AS TO REPRESENT AND TO SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MS. VASQUEZ.

THAT IS A PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, WOULD YOU LIKE ANY REBUTTAL? NOPE.

VERY GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.

YES.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, MAKE THIS REAL QUICK.

BASICALLY, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT DEAL.

I, I LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, HOW THEY WORKED AND I LIKE THE, HOW THEY, THE APPLICANTS WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION TO KIND OF MEET IN THE MIDDLE, MAYBE A LITTLE FURTHER ON THEIR SIDE, BUT, UH, APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FOR THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER CHASE, QUESTIONS COMMERS ON MY LEFT QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER BEL, UH, TO STAFF, IF I RECALL FROM THE LAST MEETING, UM, A DUPLEX WAS PERMITTED BY, RIGHT? IS THAT THE CASE OR WAS THAT MIXING UP? DUPLEX IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT, BUT BASICALLY HE WOULD HAVE TO TEAR DOWN THE STRUCTURE AND REBUILD.

SO ALLOWING THIS ZONING WILL ALLOW A SITE PLAN, UM, AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THAT REQUIRES THE SEATING? CORRECT.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? SAYING NONE.

ALRIGHT, AGAIN, THIS IS A COMM, UH, DISTRICT THREE CASE COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION.

EXCUSE ME.

AND POTENTIAL MOTION.

YES.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, JUST ONE QUESTION I FORGOT TO ASK.

STAFF, UH, STAFF PARKING, I KNOW THEY WENT DOWN FROM SIX TO FOUR PARKING SPACES.

UH, THEY WOULD NEED, IS IT, UH, 1.5 PER, TO BE HONEST, ACTUALLY FOR TWO UNITS, I BELIEVE YOU'RE ONLY PERMITTED, UH, ONE, ONE SPACE PER UNIT.

ONE TO TWO.

JUST WANTED TO CLARIFICATION.

ONE TO TWO SPACES.

SO THE MINIMUM THEY WOULD NEED IS TWO SPACES, PARKING SPACES FOR A DUPLEX.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND AS AMENDED? YES, CORRECT.

APPROVAL.

UH, AS AMENDED.

THANK YOU.

I'LL SECOND IT.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ IS A SECOND.

UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ON MY RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

DISCUSSION ON REMOTE COMMISSIONER CHASE.

SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER ELL, JUST ONLY AFTER, UH, THE LAST ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, I WANNA REALLY THANK THE, UH, THE APPLICANT FOR, FOR BEING COOPERATIVE AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THIS IS HOW ZONING SUBMISSION IS SUPPOSED TO WORK, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON MY LEFT? SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AGAIN, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER LOEP? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES.

COMMISSIONER VO AYE.

COMMISSIONER WITS? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR BUSANTE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES AS AMENDED.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

ALRIGHT, HOPEFULLY Y'ALL WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BEDA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT 8 8 8 0 HEATH CIRCLE DRIVE GOING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLY STAYING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 115 NOTICES MAILED FOUR IN FAVOR, 19 OPPOSED KINGSWOOD HEIGHTS IS OPPOSED OUTSIDE.

200 FEET ZERO OR IN FAVOR, 64 ARE OPPOSED.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED R FIVE AND R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.

THE EXISTING R SIX DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THE PROPOSED R FIVE DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO SMALLER LOTS.

THE DENSITY WITH THE PROPOSED LOT SIZE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUEST ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSE HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF ADDITIONAL HOUSING STOCK TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.

GOOD

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AFTERNOON, CHAIR BUSANTE ZONING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS MIA MARIE PUGH WITH BROWN AND MCDONALD LAW FIRM, UM, 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10 SUITE 1385.

HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT ALSO WITH ME TODAY WE HAVE THE PROJECT ENGINEER IN, UM, SIM TEAM MEMBERS OF HYG HOMES.

WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO REQUEST A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM OUR SIX SINGLE FAMILY TO OUR FIVE SINGLE FAMILY.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FALLS WITHIN THE NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PERIMETER PLAN WITH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, R FIVE.

OUR REQUEST ALIGNS WITH THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION.

OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY LO IS LOCATED IN D SIX.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS SURROUNDED BY ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST, UM, UNDEVELOPED LOTS THAT'S ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY.

WE HAVE MET WITH THE KINGSWOOD, UM, HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION, UH, TWICE NOW.

UM, THEIR ISSUES MORE STEM FROM PHASE ONE, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE.

UM, WE'RE HERE FOR THE PHASE TWO, SO THEIR ISSUES, JUST TO ADDRESS THEM HEAD ON, UM, IS ABOUT, UH, THE DUST THAT'S BEEN PRODUCED BY THE GRADING AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAND.

UM, WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED WITH OUR SUBCONTRACTORS ABOUT THREE TIMES NOW FOR THEM TO INCREASE, UH, WATERING DOWN SO THE SOIL WON'T LEAVE.

AND IF YOU NOTICE DURING STAFF'S PRESENTATION, WE STILL HAVE OUR SILT FENCES UP AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MITIGATE THAT PROBLEM.

IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE DOWNSIDES WITH, UM, BUILDING A NEW SUBDIVISION.

UM, ALSO THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREES THAT WERE, UM, QUOTE UNQUOTE RIPPED OUT.

UM, OUR PROPERTY, UM, IS NOT VESTED, SO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CURRENT UDC AND THE TREE ORDINANCE.

WE'RE NOT ANY VIOLATION, WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.

WE ARE FOLLOWING WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND WE WILL BE REPLANTING, UM, ONCE WE'RE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO PHASE TWO AGAIN, IS A VERY SEPARATE IT.

THOSE PICTURES THAT YOU SAW WAS ALL GRADED, THAT'S PHASE ONE.

WE ARE NOT TOUCHING PHASE TWO TILL AROUND 2027.

UM, SO JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ADDRESSED.

SO HERE IS OUR PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN, UH, FOR R FIVE.

SO THIS IS, UM, YOU'LL SEE BETWEEN OUR KIND OF TWO LOTS.

WE'RE ADDING A 48, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY IS THE ADDITION OF FOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TODAY.

WE COULD GO OUT THERE, WE HAVE OUR R SIX ZONING DESIGNATION, AND WE COULD BUILD 44 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

UM, WE ARE HERE TODAY TO ASK TO BUILD THOSE ADDITIONAL FOUR, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THE R FIVE ZONING.

AS YOU CAN SEE, R FIVE IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

ALL THOSE PROPERTIES HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ARE R FIVE, AND TWO OF THEM ARE ALSO WITHIN THE KINGSWOOD HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION.

HERE'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PRODUCT WILL LOOK LIKE, UH, STUCCO HOME, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALL YOUR CLASSIC KIND OF FINISHINGS INSIDE.

UH, THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

UH, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UH, YOUR APPROVAL FOR AN R FIVE.

AND AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR PROJECT ENGINEER AND SOME MEMBERS FROM HYG HOMES IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MS. PUKE.

THANK YOU.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

, THAT WAS DRAMATIC.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SAY THERE STILL WAS SOME.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THERE BEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, THERE WILL BE NO REBUTTAL MS. PUGH, AND THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE, BUT BECAUSE COMMISSIONER HUEY IS NOT PRESENT TODAY, COMMISSIONER CHASE, UH, I BELIEVE YOU'LL BE HANDLING THIS CASE.

YES.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, WITH THERE NOT BEING ANY, UH, PEOPLE IN PERSON OR COMMENTS LEFT, UM, I'M ASSUMING I CAN, WELL ACTUALLY IF YOU COULD COME UP MS. VIEW.

HELLO? HI.

SO I, WITH ALL OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, X MARKS ON THE, UH, AROUND FROM THE SUBDIVISION, UH, AROUND Y'ALL, UM, DID, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE REASON THEY'RE NOT THERE TO, UM, PROTEST ANYMORE AS, AS YOU'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATION AND OR TO BE HONEST, I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY AREN'T HERE.

UM, WE DID MEET WITH THEM

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RECENTLY ON NOVEMBER 24TH, MAYBE EIGHT TO 10 PEOPLE SHOWED UP, BUT I HONESTLY EXPECTED PEOPLE TO SHOW TODAY.

SO YEAH, WITH ALL THE OPPOSITION ON OF X MARKS, I WAS EXPECTING A, A FULL ROOM, BUT I, I CAN'T SEE THE ROOM.

SO YEAH.

UM, WITHOUT ANY IN-PERSON OPPOSITION AND, UM, WITH YOU ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CONCERNS, MOSTLY BEING ABOUT THE DOWNFALL OF, YOU KNOW, LIVING NEXT TO CONSTRUCTION SITE, UM, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AND ALLOW THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO ASKING THE OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHASE.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT? SEEING? YEP.

COMMISSIONER, HE ALSO, UH, JU UH, THE APPLICANT? YEAH, REPRESENTATIVE, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR ME.

SO I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE ASKING FOR FOUR MORE, THAT'S WHY THE DOWNGRADE FROM R SIX TO R FIVE TO MAKE THE HOUSES A LITTLE BIT MORE SMALLER TO FIT IN FOUR MORE? YES.

OKAY.

AND A MAJORITY OF THE CON CONCERNS THE NEIGHBORS HAD WERE JUST BASICALLY ON CONSTRUCTION YES.

OF THAT PHASE ONE PORTION OF, OF THE PHASE ONE PORTION THAT'S NOT SUBJECT TO THE ZONING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT? ALRIGHT, ON MY LEFT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BEL, UH, YET, UM, I'M ALSO SURPRISED TO NOT SEE ANYONE HERE, UM, TO STAFF.

THERE WASN'T ANY RECORD OF ANYONE REVERSING THEIR OPPOSITION, LIKE NO ONE SUBMITTED AMENDED STATEMENTS.

OKAY.

THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT.

NO ONE HAS SUBMITTED AN AMENDED RESPONSE.

RIGHT.

SO I MEAN, I'LL I'LL TAKE IT THEN THAT THOSE PEOPLE STILL OPPOSE EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, SHOW UP TO HAVE THEIR OBJECTIONS HEARD.

CORRECT.

UH, THE APPLICANT HAD MENTIONED R SIX ALREADY BY RIGHT.

THEY COULD BUILD WITH HIGHER MINIMUM LOT REQUIREMENTS OR SORRY, NOT UH, WITH, UH, YEAH.

HIGHER, UH, MINIMUM LOT SIZES.

THE R FIVE IS TO ALLOW 'EM TO HAVE SMALLER LOT SIZES AND THEY'RE ALREADY ENTITLED BY, RIGHT? CORRECT.

SO THOSE ARE VERY LARGE LOTS.

R SIX, YOU WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

R FIVE IS A 5,000 SQUARE FEET LOT MINIMUM.

UH, ONE OF THE OBJECTIONS THAT STRUCK WITH ME FROM THE, THE LAST, UH, PUBLIC HEARING WAS AROUND THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THIS WAS GONNA REMAIN A GREEN SPACE.

UM, IT IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

UM, IT LED ME TO WONDER, YOU KNOW, WHERE UH, THERE IS OPEN SPACE ZONING IN THE CITY, UM, THERE, I MEAN THAT ISN'T A ZONING DESIGNATION OS NO, THAT IS NOT A ZONING DESIGNATION.

MOST OF THE TIME, UH, A PARK IS GOING TO BE ZONED OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, BUT AGAIN, IF IT WAS OWNED BY THE CITY OR IF SAY THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED TO BUY IT AND CREATE THEIR OWN PARK SPACE, BUT IT IS OWNED PRIVATELY OWNED BY A PRIVATE OWNER AND IT IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL, THEY ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

TO DEVELOP IT.

YEAH.

I I DID FIND THAT INTERESTING WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE MAP BRACKENRIDGE PARK ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

CORRECT.

WE DO NOT HAVE A PARK, WE DO NOT HAVE A ZONING DEDICATED FOR PARK.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT IS INTERESTING FOR EXPECTATIONS.

RIGHT.

'CAUSE IF A RESIDENT LOOKED AT HARDBERGER PARK OR LOOKED AT BRACKENRIDGE AND SAID, WELL THAT'S ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL AND THAT'S GUARANTEED AS OPEN SPACE, THIS IS ALSO ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? YEAH.

SO MOST OF THE TIME THE PARK SPACE IS OWNED BY THE CITY, SO.

GOT IT.

YEAH.

SO RESIDENTS WILL NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY, NOT JUST WHAT IT'S OWNED.

CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER CHASE TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION OR JUST A MOTION? I, I'LL JUST MOTION TO APPROVE IF THERE'S DISCUSSION OR WELL, WE'VE JUST DONE DISCUSSION BUT, UH, OR QUESTIONS, I MEAN I'LL LEAVE IT OPEN TO DISCUSSION NOW.

.

ALRIGHT.

THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR BY COMMISSIONER CHASE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM.

ALRIGHT, UH, DISCUSSION TO MY RIGHT? NONE TO MY LEFT.

NONE.

OH, OH, SORRY.

COMMISSIONER DVE.

YEAH, O ONLY JUST THE, ALONG THE LINE OF MY, MY QUESTIONS I FEEL FOR THE RESIDENTS ESPECIALLY I, I REMEMBER, UH, I RECALL LAST MEETING ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SAID THAT THEIR, THEIR REAL ESTATE AGENT ASSURED THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS NOT GONNA DEVELOP IT AND IT WAS GONNA REMAIN OPEN SPACE.

I DO FEEL FOR THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY MADE THAT PURCHASE WITH THAT EXPECTATION, UM, THE CITY MAY WANT TO CONSIDER AN OPEN SPACE DESIGNATION TO BE CLEAR WHEN THE ZONING IS OPEN FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND WHEN IT'S NOT OPEN FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON MY LEFT? SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT.

THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR BY COMMISSIONER CHASE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM.

ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER LO? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.

YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES.

COMMISSIONER BEL AYE.

COMMISSIONER WHITSON? YES.

CHAIR BUSANTE.

AYE.

MOTION

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CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU ALL.

UM, WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BETA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 1 1 1 BELFAST DRIVE GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO IDZ TWO.

MEDIUM INTENSITY IN FIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.

THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE.

200 FEET ZERO ARE IN FAVOR, TWO WERE OPPOSED.

THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.

THE EXISTING R FOUR DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED ID Z TWO DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS IS NOT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO FOUR LOTS AND DEVELOP SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ON EACH PLATTED LOT.

ALTHOUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROVIDE A HOME ON EACH LOT, THE IDZ TWO BASE ZONE WOULD WAIVE THE LOT SIZE MINIMUM REDUCED SETBACKS AND PARKING STANDARDS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE REQUIRED IN THE R FOUR BASE ZONE, THUS MAKING THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT IN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AMEND THEIR REQUEST TO IDZ ONE.

LIMITED INTENSITY AND FIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USE OF PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.

NO OKAY.

MOVE.

I DON'T HAVE TO REACH UNDER WHILE WE GET THAT GOING.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE SUITE TWO 50 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

UM, THIS PROPERTY MAY LOOK FAMILIAR.

I DON'T HAVE QUITE THE HISTORY, UM, WITH THIS AREA AND SITE THAT ROB PREVIOUSLY HAD ON THOUSAND OAKS.

UM, BUT, UH, LAST YEAR, OR ACTUALLY IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM, IT'S BEEN A LONG YEAR.

UM, WE LOOKED AT A REZONING YOU ALL CONSIDERED A REZONING, JUST TWO BLOCKS TO THE NORTH, UM, AT 1 0 2 CONWAY, AND THAT WAS FOR FOUR UNITS.

UM, THIS IS THE SAME DEVELOPER, UM, A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PRODUCT.

UM, THAT BEFORE WAS, UH, TWO DUPLEXES, SO FOUR TOTAL UNITS.

THIS IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY, TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

UM, BUT WE ARE JUST TWO BLOCKS TO THE SOUTH ON A CORNER LOT AT EMPIRE AND BELFAST.

UM, IN THIS AREA YOU CAN SEE 4 10, 2 81 BROADWAY TO THE EAST, SUNSET TO THE SOUTH.

UM, ZOOMED IN HERE, UM, EMPIRE STREET, UM, IS DOES NOT HAVE, UH, THIS WILL HAVE HOMES FACING IT.

UM, BUT THAT IS A RAILROAD TRACKS AND THEN THAT BEEN THERE.

DUMP, THAT IS A LARGE INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL, UH, DUMP SITE.

UM, AND THEN THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, ACROSS BELFAST AND THEN THERE'S A HOME DEPOT.

UM, IT'S A VERY HARSH, UM, PRETTY AGGRESSIVE TRANSITION FROM LARGE, UH, SCALE COMMERCIAL, UH, STRAIGHT INTO SINGLE FAMILY.

UM, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, ACTUALLY JUST RIGHT NORTH OF COLTON IS THE CONWAY DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO WE ARE JUST HERE TWO BLOCKS SOUTH.

UM, THIS IS THE ENTIRE CORNER LOT AT ONE 11 BELFAST.

THIS IS THE VIEW FROM STANDING ON BELFAST.

LOOKING AT BELFAST, UM, FROM THE CORNER LOT.

SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, A FAIRLY NEW HOME, UH, MUCH LARGER, UH, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, AND THEN THE, THE ORANGE STRIPING IN THE BACK IS THE HOME DEPOT.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE, UM, JUST IN PROXIMITY, UH, WHERE THE, THE FOUR UNITS ARE BEING DEVELOPED ON CONWAY.

UM, THOSE WERE THREE BEDROOM, TWO AND A HALF BATH, BUT AGAIN, TWO, TWO INDIVIDUAL STRUCTURES.

UM, THIS REQUEST, AND I'M JUST GONNA KEEP MOVING ON HERE, SORRY THERE'S A LOT, UH, I'LL GO BACK.

THIS WAS OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST.

OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST CAME IN, UM, WAS FOR FIVE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

UM, THE NEED FOR THE IDZ, WHY WE COULDN'T DO A A RESIDENTIAL BASE WITH A CONDITIONAL DISTRICT, UM, IS BECAUSE WE ARE PLOTTING THESE INTO INDIVIDUAL LOTS.

SO TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HERE.

SO OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR FIVE UNITS.

THESE WERE, UM, MID UPPER 800 SQUARE FOOT, SMALL ONE CAR GARAGES.

UM, WE AMENDED THE REQUEST, WHICH IS WHAT IS ON YOUR AGENDA FOR FOUR UNITS.

UM, THOSE ARE SLIGHTLY LARGER UNITS STILL ONE CAR GARAGE.

UM, THE OPPOSITION THAT IS ON THE RECORD, UM, WAS ALL SPECIFIC TO THE FIVE UNIT LAYOUT.

I HAVE PERSONALLY REACHED OUT VIA EMAIL AND CALLS TO ALL OF THOSE WHO RESPONDED, THOSE FOUR FOLKS WHO RESPONDED, UM,

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LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE HAVE AMENDED THIS REQUEST AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE NEXT, UM, FOR A SECOND TIME NOW, UM, REDUCING THAT DENSITY FROM FIVE NOW ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THREE.

UM, AND THIS ACTUALLY, CAN YOU PULL UP THE SITE PLAN FROM YOUR PRESENTATION? THE, THE AMENDED ONE? YES.

SWITCH OVER SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL STRUCTURE.

SO THESE HOMES, UM, WITH THE THREE INDIVIDUALS, UM, THESE ARE ALMOST DOUBLE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHAT OUR ORIGINAL FIVE UNIT REQUEST WAS.

SO THESE ARE EACH, UM, OVER 1500 SQUARE FEET.

THESE COME WITH FULL SIZE DRIVEWAYS, UH, TWO FULL SIZE CAR GARAGES.

UM, AND SO LARGER HOME, LARGER FOOTPRINT, MUCH MORE COMPARABLE, UM, TO KIND OF WHAT IS SURROUNDING IT.

UM, THIS REQUEST DID GO TO, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION LAST RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS.

UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO AMEND, UM, OUR ORIGINAL PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST WAS GOING TO BE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS WHAT THE REQUEST FOR CONWAY WAS.

UM, BUT THIS IS A NEW PLAN.

WE TOTALLY DON'T LIKE TO AMEND NEW PLANS IF WE DON'T HAVE TO.

UM, BUT WITH THE AMENDMENT DOWN TO THREE UNITS FROM FIVE, FOUR TO THREE, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE INTENSITY OF THAT PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST TO URBAN LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, AND THEN THIS REQUEST, THIS DENSITY OF THE THREE UNITS ACTUALLY ALLOWS US TO BRING THAT IDZ DOWN FROM A TWO TO A ONE.

SO THE NEW REQUEST BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY IS FOR IDZ ONE FOR THREE UNITS, UM, WITH THIS AMENDED SITE PLAN.

AGAIN, LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE, LARGER PARKING, UM, MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE AND COMPARABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AGAIN, THERE IS A MIX.

CAN YOU FLIP BACK TO MY PRESENTATION? I'M SO SORRY, BRONTE, I SHOULD MAKE THIS POOR GIRL FLIP AROUND SCREENS.

UM, THERE IS KIND OF A, AN ODD MIX OF RESIDENTIAL IN THIS COMMUNITY.

THERE ARE APARTMENTS, THERE ARE DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, ALL, ALL SORTS OF KIND OF THIS MIX.

UM, BUT UH, REALLY IN THIS BOTTOM POCKET, UM, ALTHOUGH IT IS WITHIN A STONE'S THROW FROM A HOME DEPOT, UM, WE WANTED TO TRY AND KEEP THAT SINGLE FAMILY, UH, CHARACTER IN THERE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UM, SO AGAIN, REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS FOR IDZ ONE WITH THREE UNITS.

UM, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. WEISLER.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

RIGHT? VERY GOOD.

THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO IT IS TO COMMISSIONER KELLUM FOR QUESTIONS.

MS. WESTER, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

UH, THESE ARE FOR SALE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

FOR SALE? YES SIR.

MARK.

RATE CHAIR, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

VERY GOOD.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? YEP.

UH, WE'LL GO WITH COMMISSIONER DUVALL THEN.

COMMISSIONER.

WHATS IT? OKAY, I'M GONNA, SORRY, I TRICKED YOU.

APPLICANT'S GONNA BE, UH, SEEKING TO AMEND THE PROPOSED ZONING TO I TWO Z ONE, CORRECT? YES.

FOR THE THREE UNITS, WE'VE ALREADY PROCESSED THAT WITH STAFF.

I'M, I'M STATING THE AMENDMENT ON THE RECORD FOR YOU ALL TODAY.

THAT IS WHAT YOUR, UM, OUR AMENDMENT IS THAT IS OUR REQUEST IS TO AMEND IT.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE ALREADY PROCESSED THAT WITH CITY STAFF AND THAT WAS THE AMENDMENT THAT ACTUALLY TRIGGERED THE AMENDMENT THAT WE MADE AT PLANNING COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

SO FOR TO STAFF, UH, STAFF REPORT RECOMMENDED DENIAL, DOES THE AMENDED PROPOSAL CHANGE YOUR ANALYSIS? NO, IT DOES NOT.

WE ARE, EMILY HAD BROUGHT IT UP THAT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WE DID REVIEW SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST UP THE ROAD THAT WAS OF SOMEWHAT SIMILAR DENSITY.

BUT I WILL STATE, UM, THIS PLAN, THE UH, GREATER AIRPORT AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN THAT STAFF TRIES TO ALIGN WITH, UM, WAS JUST APPROVED LAST MONTH.

AND THAT'S WHERE THEY SAY THEY, UM, SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH PERMITS AT A LOWEST DENSITY, I THINK IS, UM, EITHER R FOUR OR R NO R FOUR.

AND THIS LOT IS A LITTLE OVER 7,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO THEY, YOU COULDN'T BREAK IT INTO R YOU KNOW, R FOUR OR ANY HIGHER.

UM, BASICALLY IT ONLY WOULD PERMIT ONE UNIT ON THIS LOT AND THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS WHY STAFF MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

WHAT WAS, UH, THE RECOMMENDED PLAN CHANGE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION? PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND WHAT THE AMENDED ONE RIGHT, WHICH THE, WOULD THE PLAN AMENDMENT.

SO WHAT WOULD THE REQUESTED ZONING HERE BE CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDED PLAN AMENDMENT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION? YES, THIS WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO ALIGN WITH WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON.

RIGHT.

WHICH IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH PERMITS THE HIGHER DENSITY THAT MATCHES WHAT SHE IS REQUESTING.

RIGHT, BUT JUST JUST TO CONFIRM, WOULD THE, SO WOULD IDZ ONE BE CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDED

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PROPOSAL THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES? CORRECT.

IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT, YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

COMMISSIONER WHITSETT QUESTIONS, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

WHERE ON CONWAY WAS THE OTHER PROJECT AND Y'ALL, DID IT GET BUILT AND, UH, UNDER CONSTRUCTION? IT WAS JUST, UM, APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR? UM, SO I THINK WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, QUITE HONESTLY, HOW MANY UNITS AND WHAT, UH, THAT'S FOUR UNITS.

I'M SORRY, I'M NOT EVEN SPEAKING INTO THE MIC.

MORE SIDE.

UM, SLIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY LARGER.

SLIGHTLY LARGER, BUT, UM, YEAH, SORRY.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YOU DON'T HAVE, I'M JUST WATCHING BRONTE, SKIP AROUND HERE.

THERE WE GO.

UM, IT IS JUST A HAIR LARGER, THE CONWAY SITE IS JUST A HAIR LARGER.

UM, BUT YOU CAN, OH, HERE IT'S, WHAT'S THE ADDRESS? I DIDN'T KNOW IT HAD A PEN.

A FLOWER HERE.

UM, THE ADDRESS IS 1 0 2 CONWAY, SO IT'S, IT'S RIGHT HERE.

OH TWO RIGHT HERE.

THIS CORNER LOT HERE AT CONWAY AND EMPIRE.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE, THOSE TWO STRUCTURES, FOUR UNITS WERE BUILT ARE, ARE GOING TO BE BUILT.

THEY WERE JUST APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

UM, AND SO THIS IS HERE JUST RIGHT THERE ON THAT SAME EMPIRE DRIVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? ALRIGHT, ON MY RIGHT QUESTIONS.

SEEING NONE REMOTELY.

SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO TO COMMISSIONER KELLUM FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION CHAIR, I THANK YOU.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT'S, UM, WORK ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

I CERTAINLY HAD A LOT OF RETICENCE WITH IT, BUT THE IDEA THAT YOU'VE COME DOWN FROM FIVE TO THREE IS, IS QUITE IMPRESSIVE AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I THINK LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, CREATING THREE ADDITIONAL HOMES FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO OCCUPY AND, AND CERTAINLY ASSIMILATE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A WONDERFUL THING.

SOMETHING I THINK WE ALL LOOK FOR.

UH, BEING ON THE END CAP I THINK MAKES THIS UNIQUELY, UH, UM, UM, APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO WITH THAT, I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS AS AMENDED.

I SECOND AS AMENDED.

IS THERE, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE AS AMENDED? IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, SECOND.

BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.

HE WAS FASTER.

COMMISSIONER KELLY, I APOLOGIZE.

UM, ALL DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER DUL, UH, ONLY THAT THE, UH, THREE UNITS, SO REDUCING IT FROM, UH, WHAT WAS IT, FIVE TO FOUR TO THREE? I THINK LOOKS, LOOKS A LOT BETTER.

THE REAL IMPROVEMENT.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ON MY LEFT? SEEING NONE ON MY RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONER CHASE AGAIN, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

UH, HINOJOSA ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES.

COMMISSIONER LO? YES.

COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES.

COMMISSIONER VILLE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER WIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR BUSANTE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES AS AMENDED.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 15.

ALSO, JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER EFF HAS LEFT AT 2 33.

2 33 PLEASE.

THERE WE GO.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

COMMISSIONERS AT OTHER GOMEZ ZONING PLANNER REDEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ITEM NUMBER 15 IS LOCATED AT 53 21 CASSAVE GOING FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C TWO S COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR FITNESS CENTER HEALTH CLUB GYMNASIUM, NATATORIUM SPORTS COURT OUTDOOR USES PERMITTED.

THERE WERE 24 NOTICES SENT OUT, ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO POST ONE OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET.

THE RIOT COMMON COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.

STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

RC TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C TWO C3 NA, GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES AND R FOUR PUD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED C TWO S COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A FITNESS CENTER HEALTH CLUB GYMNASIUM, NATATORIUM SPORTS COURT OUTDOOR IS PERMITTED, IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A REZONING TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF A SPORTS COMPLEX SIMILAR TO EXPERIENCES OFFERED BY POPS STROKE OR CHICKEN AND PICKLE.

IT'S A PADDLE SPORT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SITUATED BETWEEN EXISTING C TWO ZONING AND A MIX OF ACTIVE COMMERCIAL USERS MAKING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PATTERN.

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ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE OFF CASA BAY STREET, WHICH MAY HELP KEEP TRAFFIC OUTSIDE OF THE NEARBY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS NOTED THAT AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS DIRECTLY ABUTTING THE SITE AND APPROPRIATE BUFFERING AND SCREENING MEASURES CAN BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME OF SITE DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY.

THE REQUEST WILL BE HELD TO THE PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN.

DEVIATION FROM THE DOCUMENT COULD POTENTIALLY WARRANT ADDITIONAL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS DIEGO SANCHEZ AND I AM THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE DESIGN TEAM ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.

UH, PADEL IS A NEW AND UPCOMING SPORT GLOBALLY.

ONE OF MY FIRST CONS, ACTUALLY THE HEAD COACH OF THE US NATIONAL TEAM.

UH, IT'S SOMETHING I GREW UP PLAYING TENNIS COMPETITIVELY AS WELL AND I PERSONALLY PLAY THE SPORTS AS WELL.

IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO TENNIS AND RACKETBALL, BUT WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT IT'S, PEOPLE SOMETIMES COMPARE TO PICKLEBALL BECAUSE IT'S SIMILAR COURT SIZES, BUT THE NOISE IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE DULL PICKLEBALL, MORE THE NUANCES AND THE STIGMA IS BECAUSE IT'S A VERY HIGH PITCH IMPACT, UH, SPORT IN THAT ASPECT.

UH, THE CURRENT ZONING ONLY ALLOWS FOR INDOOR FACILITIES OF OF THIS NATURE.

THIS WOULD ONLY ALLOW US TO DO A COURSE ESSENTIALLY ON THE OUTSIDE.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE, I HEARD THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT, ABOUT THE NEIGHBORING MOSQUE NEARBY WAS THAT UH, ONE OF THE LANDOWNERS IS ACTUALLY IS ONE OF THE OWNERS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE PATRONS TO THAT MOSQUE.

ACTUALLY MY CLIENT IS ONLY LONG-TERM LEASING THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, SO THEY ARE IN FAVOR IN THE, IN THE AGENT LATER LETTER THAT WE HAD TO DO FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

ONE, ONE OF THE PATRONS FROM THAT PARTICULAR, UM, MOSQUE IS ACTUALLY OBVIOUSLY IN FAVOR OF DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY.

IT IS CURRENTLY C TWO.

THE HOUSES WERE INTENDING TO DEMOLISHING IT BECAUSE THERE IS, IT HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH VACANT FOR WAY TOO LONG AND AT THIS POINT IT'S JUST BETTER TO DEMOLISH IT RIGHT NOW.

UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING TO WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, I'M HERE TO HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. SANCHEZ.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE COMMISSIONER KELLY TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UH, YES, IF I COULD HAVE MR. SANCHEZ BACK UP PLEASE.

UM, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.

IN FACT, I JUST BOUGHT SOME PAINT AT THE SHERWIN WILLIAMS STORE DOWN THE STREET, .

SO, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I GUESS I HAVE A CONCERN BECAUSE, UH, THE STREET ITSELF IS REALLY ALMOST JUST KIND OF A WIDE PAVED ALLEY AND IT DOESN'T, IT'S A DEAD END STREET.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED YOU, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

YOU SAID Y'ALL HAVE HAD SOME CONTACT WITH THE MOSQUE.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY, UM, HOW MANY OCCASIONS DURING A GIVEN DAY THE MOSQUE HAS ACTIVITIES THERE.

UM, BUT I JUST, UH, I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING, UH, AT VARIOUS TIMES THERE.

AND I JUST WONDER, HAVE Y'ALL TALKED THROUGH HOW THEIR TRAFFIC IS GONNA INTERACT WITH YOUR TRAFFIC AND HOW YOU, HOW YOU PLAN TO ADDRESS ALL THAT? WELL, UM, I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR ABOUT THEIR PARTICULAR SCHEDULE, BUT I KNOW THAT THE, ALL THE PATRONS THAT WERE INFORMED, THEY REALLY HAD A PROBLEM WITH THIS.

UH, EVEN THE THE, THERE'S A HOTEL BEHIND THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY, AND EVEN THEY'RE SO INTERESTED WITH THE SPORT, IT'S VERY POPULAR.

IF YOU EVER SEE ALL OF THE EUROPEAN BASKETBALL PLAYERS ARE FORMULA ONE DRIVERS ALWAYS PLAYING PATEL.

AND, UH, EVEN THEY'RE INTERESTED IN HAVING A DIRECT ACCESS EVENTUALLY TO OUR DEVELOPMENT SO THAT IF PEOPLE ARE IN, ARE LIKE GOING FOR LIKE STAYING FOR LIKE, LET'S SAY A TOURNAMENT, THEY CAN STAY AT THE NEIGHBORING HOTEL.

IT'S, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OBVIOUSLY PARKING WITHIN THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

SO I DON'T REALLY SEE A CONCERN.

IT'S, IT'S UH, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A VERY LOW TRAFFIC.

I KNOW THERE'S SOMETIMES THERE'S SPIKES TO IT, BUT IN ITSELF I THINK IT'S A PRETTY QUIET, EVERY TIME I'VE BEEN OUT THERE, THERE'S HARDLY ANY CARS, AT LEAST WHEN I'VE BEEN THERE THAT HAVE BEEN DRIVING DOWN THAT ROAD.

AND, UH, WE HAVE NO OPPOSITION FROM ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN INFORMED AND WE HAVE ALL THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS MAINLY SO, WELL, UH, I, THE PROPOSED FACILITY SEEMS QUITE APPROPRIATE.

I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACCESSIBILITY AND THE FACT THAT THERE MAY BE A CONFLICT WITH THE ACCESS TO THE MOSQUE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR FACILITY, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH VEHICLE TRAFFIC WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING IN YOUR FACILITY? UM, SO LIKE EVERYTHING, IT'S, IT'S, UH, THIS SPORT IS PLAYED MAINLY FOR,

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FOR PEOPLE PER COURT USUALLY.

UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S GROWING IN POPULARITY, BUT I KNOW THAT OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE REQUESTS.

I THINK THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE FINE.

IT SHOULD BE FINE FOR THE MOST PART.

A LOT OF PEOPLE PLAY THIS SPORT.

IT'S GONNA BE DURING THE WEEK.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE, MY SCHEDULE, BUT I'M, I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THEIR SCHEDULE REVOLVES MORE AROUND SUNDAY TIME IF I'M ASSUMING SO.

UM, BEYOND THAT WE'VE, I WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT IT? WELL, I REALLY, I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE SCHEDULE AT THE MOSQUE, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT THE INTERACTION OF THAT ACTIVITY WITH YOUR ACTIVITY IS MY BIG CONCERN.

I THINK.

UM, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE FACILITY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOUNDS FINE.

IT'S JUST THE STREET'S NARROW, IT'S DEAD END STREET.

UH, IT HAS ONE WAY ACCESS OFF THE NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD OF I 10 AND UH, IT JUST SEEMS, YOU KNOW, FOR POTENTIAL THERE MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL THERE FOR SOME TRAFFIC IMPACTS.

DID, DID YOU INTERACT WITH THE CITY'S TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT? UM, THIS PROJECT DOES NOT REQUIRE IT BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE.

IN PREVIOUS PROJECTS I'VE WORKED WITH, WE'VE HAD TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

BUT, BUT AGAIN, THE, SOME OF THE OWNERS OF THE LLC THAT ARE THE ACTUAL PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE LAND, MY CLIENT IS ONLY GONNA BUILD OVER IT ON A LEASE LEASING AGREEMENT HE HAS CURRENTLY.

UM, THEY ARE ACTUALLY EXCITED FOR IT.

WE'VE HAD NO OPPOSITION FROM THEM.

THEY'RE INTERESTED IN HAVING THIS SORT OF FACILITY AND UH, SO WE'VE, BEYOND THAT, THERE HASN'T BEEN MORE DISCUSSIONS THAN THAT.

NOTHING HAS BEEN EXPRESSED BY THEM THAT OF A CONCERN.

IF NOT, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THEY WOULD'VE BEEN HERE PRESENT TO PROTEST THIS PROPERTY.

WELL, UH, YES, I WAS SURPRISED THAT OUT OF THE 24 PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND YOU THAT NOBODY HAD A COMMENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER THAT WAS KIND OF SURPRISING.

MM-HMM.

UM, OKAY, WELL I DON'T WANNA BEAT A DEAD HORSE SO TO SPEAK HERE, BUT I GUESS I WOULD LEAVE, MY LAST COMMENT WOULD BE, I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO MEET WITH THE MOSQUE, THE FOLKS AT THE MOSQUE AND REALLY BE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT ABOUT THE SCHEDULING AND, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC, POTENTIAL TRAFFIC INTERACTION THERE BECAUSE I COULD SEE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

NO, AND, AND, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERNS.

UH, WE'LL MAKE MORE EFFORTS TO COMMUNICATE MORE THAN WE ALREADY HAVE.

WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM CURRENTLY.

UM, BUT YES, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE AN EFFORT TO SPEAK MORE ON THE, LET'S SAY THE REGULAR PATRONS THAT ARE GOING THERE.

AND I, SO YEAH.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KELLY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? YES, CAN COMMISSIONER BEL, UH, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR, FOR STAFF TO GET LIKE GOOGLE STREET VIEW UP FOR CASABELLA FOR IN FRONT OF THE, THE PROPERTY? SURE, WE CAN PULL THAT UP.

THANK YOU.

I'LL ASK QUESTIONS WHILE WE, UH, WHILE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THAT PULLED UP.

UH, THE, YOU COULD JUST GO TO THE PHOTOS AS WELL.

IT'S JUST IN THERE.

YEAH, I WANNA BE ABLE TO SEE BOTH EAST AND WEST ON CASABELLA.

UM, SO LET'S SEE IF THERE'S PHOTOS OF IT.

BUT, UM, UH, ON THIS CASE, WAS THERE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WORKSHEET? SO A WORKSHEET WAS SUBMITTED, UM, AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE DEF WHAT THE ITEM IS.

SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME THAT TYPICALLY HAS ONE PEAK HOUR.

AND THEN WHEN I TURNED IN, UM, I PUT THE USE FOR A HEALTH FITNESS CLUB OF ABOUT 7,500 UH, SQUARE FEET.

WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ON THEIR SITE PLAN, IT GIVES YOU ABOUT, UM, 20 SEAT, 26 PEAK HOUR TRIPS.

AND SO THERE WILL BE IN THE FUTURE MOST LIKELY, UM, PERMIT DURING THE PERMITTING STAGE THAT THE, UH, TRAFFIC TEAM WILL PROBABLY ASK FOR A FULL, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK TO ADD ON TO THAT, THERE'S TWO THINGS.

SO RIGHT NOW THIS LOT IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS ALL OF, UH, LOT EIGHT AND A PART OF LOT NINE.

SO THERE'S A POTENTIAL, THIS TRACT WILL HAVE TO BE RE PLATTED AS WELL.

THE TRAFFIC IMPACT WILL BE ANALYZED AT THE PLAT STAGE.

UM, THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH A PLAT EXCEPTION BASED UPON THE LAYOUT.

UM, BUT AT THE BUILDING PERMIT STAGE AS WELL AS KELLY MENTIONED, THE TRAFFIC TEAM WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FULL REVIEW.

SO POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRAFFIC TO FORMALLY WEIGH IN.

SO TO THE, UH, THE, THE, WELL, THE, THE GOOGLE VIEW.

UM, FIRST THING IS I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME OF DAY THIS PHOTO WAS OR WHAT DAY, BUT LIKE THAT'S A PRETTY FULL PARKING LOT AT THE MOSQUE.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE ALSO A SCHOOL, SO YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE,

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UH, WHAT'S IT CALLED? THE, UH, CHILDCARE FACILITY.

YEAH, CHILDCARE FACILITY.

SO THERE'S PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE, THE, THE SCHOOL HOURS.

UM, AND THEN THEIR DAY OF PRAYER IS FRIDAY, UH, NOT SUNDAY.

OH YEAH.

SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT MIGHT IMPACT THAT AS WELL.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF CARS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT GETS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, UH, STREET VIEW? SO YOU, YOU PICK UP THE LITTLE DANGY YELLOW GUY AND DROP 'EM ON THE, THERE WE GO.

SO IF YOU TURN EASTBOUND, THAT'S TO THE RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE HOW PECULIAR THIS STREET IS.

YOU KNOW, THEY OBVIOUSLY WERE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE, UH, THE TREES AND THEN IT TURNS INTO LITERALLY AN ALLEY TO GO BACK TO THE MOSQUE.

I'M SURE THEY'RE ALREADY HAVING TRAFFIC PROBLEMS WHEN A HUNDRED CARS ARE ALL TRYING TO GET THERE.

SO, BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR FROM STAFF RIGHT, THAT THAT MOST LIKELY WILL BE ADDRESSED AT, YOU KNOW, DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE HAVE TO ADDRESS TODAY.

UM, WITH THE S THAT'S CORRECT.

ONCE THEY APPLY FOR PERMITTING TRAFFIC, WE'LL DO A REVIEW AND IF THEY DETERMINE ANY QUEUING IS NEEDED, WHICH MEANS STACKING OF CARS, SO ACCESS TO PROPERTY, THEY WILL NOT GET AN APPROVED PERMIT UNTIL THAT HAS BEEN ADEQUATELY PROVIDED.

THANK YOU.

YES.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE TO MY RIGHT.

QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER CHASE QUESTIONS? NOPE.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT A CASE COMMISSIONER KELLY TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.

I STILL, UH, I GUESS I STILL HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE ACCESSIBILITY AND THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES THERE ON WHAT'S REALLY KIND OF A WIDE ALLEY.

BUT I THINK, UH, THAT YOU AS A, AS THE DEVELOPER YOU'VE REACHED OUT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT MORE TO THE MOSQUE AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO CONFLICT AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

IT'S, UH, NOT ACCESSIBLE FROM THAT STREET BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS, THE DEAD END STREET DOESN'T CONNECT INTO THE STREET THAT GOES TO THE SCHOOL.

SO THAT'S REALLY NOT AN ISSUE.

BUT I DO THINK WITH THE MOSQUES, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY'RE ON FRIDAYS OR OTHER TIMES WHEN THEY HAVE ACTIVITIES GOING ON, I STILL THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A RISK OF SOME TRAFFIC ISSUES THERE.

AND I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT MORE ATTENTION IS PAID TO THAT AND MORE DISCUSSION DONE WITH THE, WITH THE MOSQUE.

BUT GIVEN THAT, UH, I'M GONNA TAKE YOUR WORD THAT YOU'LL ADDRESS, ADDRESS THAT AND ON, ON THAT CONDITION, I WOULD UH, SAY THAT I WILL SUPPORT THIS, UH, PROPOSAL IF I, IF I MAY INTERJECT, UH, WHEN THE MOSS APPLY FOR PERMITTING, THEY WERE IN THE SAME EXACT SITUATION WITH MORE TRAFFIC INCOMING.

SO JUST WORTH NOTING.

UM, SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IT MAY NOT ACTUALLY TRIGGER ANY CHANGES TO CASABELLA? NO SUGGESTIONS AT ALL.

.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

UH, SO COMMISSIONER KELLY, JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 15? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.

SORRY, COMMISSIONER WOODS.

APPARENTLY HAVING A RIGHT BIAS TODAY.

.

UM, OKAY, SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER KELLY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.

DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER DUVALL, UH, COULD WE CONSIDER UNDER THE S ANY CONDITIONS RELATED TO THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF RELATED TO, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL AT THIS TIME? TO INCREASE THE, UH, THE ODDS THAT THE CITY WILL? UH, I WOULD, I ENGINEERING, I I, SO HERE HERE'S THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT.

TRAFFIC MITIGATION, TRAFFIC CONTROL, THOSE ARE SUBJECT TO ENGINEERING STANDARDS AND THEY'RE SUBJECT TO ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY.

SO THE EXACTION HAS TO BE PROPORTIONATE TO THE IMPACT.

AND WITHOUT HAVING THAT FULL ANALYSIS IN FRONT OF US, I THINK WE'D BE SHOOTING IN THE DARK.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

HOWEVER, I DO SHARE COMMISSIONER KELLY'S CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SO I THINK THE PROJECT IS WORTHY TO, TO MOVE FORWARD, ALTHOUGH I WILL TRUST THE PROCESS OF OUR CITY THAT IT WILL EVALUATE THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND MOVE YOU FORWARD AS INDICATED.

VERY GOOD.

ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LEFT DISCUSSION.

RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

DISCUSSION REMOTE.

SEEING NONE.

ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 15 BY COMMISSIONER KELLY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES.

COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.

COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES.

COMMISSIONER.

DOABLE.

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AYE.

COMMISSIONER WIT? YES.

COMMISSIONER CHASE? YES.

CHAIR BUS.

COMMISSIONER OSA? YES.

CHAIR BUSANTE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

[Approval of Minutes  ]

I BELIEVE THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 19, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025 ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THOSE MINUTES LOOKING LEFT? YES.

YES, DO WELL? UH, UH, JUST MY LAST NAME AS ONE L, NOT TWO LS.

SO INCONSISTENT SPELLING WITH MY LAST NAME.

OKAY.

SO IF WE CAN MAKE THAT AMENDMENT ANYTHING FURTHER.

LEFT, RIGHT, REMOTE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE MINUTES AS AMENDED.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.

AS AMENDED.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, I'M GO ON WITH UH, VO ON THIS ONE.

UM, ALRIGHT, WE WILL DO THIS BY ACCLIMATION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS AMENDED.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

ALRIGHT, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

15.

THAT WASN'T THERE.

OKAY.

AND AN ABSTENTION BY COMMISSIONER CHASE.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO.

DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

THE TIME IS 2 51.

THIS MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION IS ADJOURNED.