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UM, GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
MY NAME IS JOHN BUSANTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION.
I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
MY NAME IS ROB SIPES, REPRESENTING DISTRICT SEVEN.
DANNY KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WHITSETT, DISTRICT 10 MOSES VE, DISTRICT NINE.
KEN HUIT, DISTRICT SIX, GEORGE OSA, DISTRICT THREE A DP ROD DISTRICT FOUR.
AND COMMISSIONER KELLY JOHN KELLY DISTRICT EIGHT.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALRIGHT, PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.
STAFF IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES.
UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFFING WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CHECK MARKS WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST.
FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE TWO MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.
AND PLEASE, PLEASE ANNOUNCE THAT WHEN THE SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM THAT YOU ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
AS YOU CAN GUESS, UH, FROM KELLY'S STATEMENT, UH, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE THAT YOU ANNOUNCED THAT BEFORE THAT PERSON STARTS TO SPEAK IT ALLOWS OUR MEETINGS TO GO ALONG A LOT MORE SMOOTHLY.
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WE HAVE ANY WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED OR POOLED ITEMS? NO, WE DO NOT.THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE COMBINED HEARING.
NUMBER ONE, ITEM NUMBER 4, 5, 7 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 19, 23, 25, 28 AND 29 AND I BELIEVE 20 IS BACK ON UH, CONSENT.
ALRIGHT, UM, GIVEN THOUGH THAT LIST COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANYONE WANT TO PULL ANY OF THOSE ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NO THANK.
UM, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R FOUR TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE AND
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BAR AND TAVERN WITHOUT COVER.CHARGE FOR THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK.
LOCATED AT 3 0 2 AND 3 0 6 E VALS.
71 NOTICES MAILED FOUR IN FAVOR FOR OPPOSED LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.
TWO IN FAVOR ALL OTHER OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM NC IDZ.
TWO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED AN NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND WINE BOUTIQUE LOCATED AT 3 0 2 EAST FEST STREET.
ALL OTHER OVER BELIEFS REMAIN THE SAME.
42 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR? TWO.
LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE ZONING FROM IDZ ONE TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITION USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 2 0 1 WOULD BE COURT.
ALL OTHER OVERLAYS REMAIN THE SAME.
41 NOTICES MAILED ONE IS SUPPORT ONE.
OPPOSED FIVE POINTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 11, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R SIX TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO P COMMERCIAL PEDESTRIAN DISTRICT LOCATED AT 2121 SOUTH FLORES STREET.
ALL OTHER OVERLAYS REMAIN THE SAME.
30 NOTICES MAILED FOUR IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED TO CALLING GARDENS AND LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 12, THE REQUEST FOR CHANGES ZONING FROM FBZ TWO T SIX DASH TWO AND F PZ T FIVE DASH ONE TWO IDZ THREE WITH USE IS PERMITTED IN C TWO C 3 0 1 0.502 AND 390 DWELLING UNITS.
ALL OTHER OVER LEASE REMAINS THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 3 2 6 WEST JONES AVENUE.
ZERO POSTS DOWNTOWN AT TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS GAVE NO RESPONSE ALSO ADDING A DN.
THEY'RE ALSO ADDING A DN OVERLAY TO THE PROPERTY.
ITEM NUMBER 13, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR URBAN FARM LOCATED AT FOUR 10 EAST.
CHERYL DRIVE ALL THE OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
37 NOTICES MAILED THREE IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED, THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM 14 A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM C TWO TO R FOUR LOCATED AT TWO 40 CASTRO HILL ROAD.
ALL OTHER LEAST REMAIN THE SAME.
POST EL CHADRO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM C ONE AND O2 TO C ONE CD WITH A CONDITION USE FOR THE LABORATORY RESEARCHER.
TESTING LOCATED AT 44 0 0 SOUTH PIRE DRIVE.
ALL OF THE LIKES TO REMAIN THE SAME.
ZERO OPPOSED HILLCREST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 19, THE REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM I TWO TO L LOCATED AT 44 15 DIVIDEND DRIVE.
ALL OF THE OVERLAYS REMAIN THE SAME.
EIGHT NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.
ZERO POSTS THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 20 A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R FOUR TO MF 18 LOCATED AT 10 23 EAST ASHLEY ROAD.
ALL ALTHOUGH RELEASE REMAIN THE SAME.
THERE WERE 21 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.
ZERO POSTS THE HARLANDALE NEIGHBORHOOD MCCULLOUGH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 23 A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R SIX TO C TWO.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE 202,200 BLOCK OF HUNT LANE.
ALL OTHER RELATES TO REMAIN THE SAME.
62 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR.
ONE OPPOSED RAINBOW HILLS AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
THE REQUEST FOR A CHANGES ONLY FROM I ONE TWO ID Z THREE WITH USES PERMITTED AN RM FOUR C3 100 UNITS PER ACRE BAR AND TAVERN WITH COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK.
NIGHTCLUB WITH COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK.
MICROBREWERY HOTEL TALLER THAN 35 FEET WHEN UNABLE TO ACHIEVE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT PURSUANT TO 35 DASH 5 1 70.
SETBACKS FOR HEIGHT, INCREASE BEVERAGE MANUFACTURING OR PROCESSING ENTERTAINMENT VENUE.
OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WITH AND WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK NOT INCLUDING FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT, FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT WITH COVER THREE.
COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK WITH OR WITHOUT ACCESSORY LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND IDZ THREE LOCATED AT 1523 NORTH ALAMO STREET.
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TO REMAIN THE SAME.37 NOTICES MAILED FOUR IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.
A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM C TWO NAS WITH A CONDITIONAL USE.
SORRY, WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR COMMERCIAL ATHLETICS FIELD WITH A FIVE-YEAR TIME LIMITATION AND C3 NA TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USER AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH LOCATED ON THE 9,000 BLOCK OF SOUTH SAR MORTAR STREET.
ALL OTHER RELEASES REMAIN THE SAME TO ANYONE NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R FOUR TO C ONE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE SCREENING FROM PUBLIC ROADS AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES REQUIRED.
GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE 10,000 BLOCK OF WHITE CHILD ROAD.
ALL OTHER RELATES TO REMAIN THE SAME.
27 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.
THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, ARE THERE SPEAKERS AS WELL AS VOICEMAILS? YES.
WE HAVE A MIX AND I THINK ITEM 20 WANNA CONFIRM THAT THERE THEY ARE AMENDING THEY'RE GOING WITH THE AMENDMENT SO HE NEEDS TO READ THE AMENDMENT IN.
IF YOU WOULD READ THE AMENDMENT IN FOR ITEM 20, I APOLOGIZE, I SHOULD HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR.
THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE REQUEST TO R FOUR C, THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITION OF USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
UM, LET'S BEGIN WITH THE VOICEMAILS.
BEFORE WE DO THAT, MS. ROSEHILL, YOU SIGNED UP BUT YOU ALSO LEFT A VOICEMAIL.
WOULD YOU LIKE THE VOICEMAIL TO BE HEARD OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ROSEHILL ROSE? I DON'T SEE HER.
IS SHE OUTSIDE? PERHAPS? UH, BUT OH NO.
UM, BUT THAT ALSO GOES FOR ANYONE ELSE.
IF ANYONE WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK LEFT A VOICEMAIL, NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE ONE.
UH, WE WILL EITHER HEAR YOUR VOICEMAIL OR UH, HEAR YOUR SPEECH, BUT YOU GOTTA PICK ONE.
I THINK, I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE.
UH, AND IF YOU'RE ABSENT YOU GET THE VOICEMAIL, SO.
ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN.
PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE.
HELLO, MY NAME IS LUIS MORALES AND I LIVE AT 3 23 EAST FEST.
UM, SEVEN EIGHT TWO ZERO FOUR SAN ANTONIO.
AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 887-1897.
AND THE CASE NUMBER I'M CALLING ABOUT IS, UH, THE LAST THREE DIGITS ARE 2 2 7 Z 2 2 5 0 7 2 2 7.
I'M CALLING TO, UM, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE, UH, ZONING CHANGE FOR 3 0 2 EAST FEST.
UM, WE, UH, PRESENT, UH, HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, UH, AN EXISTING, UH, BUSINESS, UH, BAMBOO RESTAURANT THAT HAS CAUSED INCREASED, UM, UH, CAR TRAFFIC, UH, CRIME AND NOISE ON MOSTLY ON THE WEEKENDS.
AND ANOTHER, UM, RESTAURANT OR BAR WOULD ONLY MAKE MATTERS WORSE.
UM, THEREFORE, UH, UH, ONCE AGAIN, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE ZONING CHANGE.
I'M THE KELSO DIRECTOR AT THE SAN ANTONIO MUSEUM OF ART 200 WEST JONES.
AND MY PERSONAL ADDRESS, SHOULD YOU NEED IT, IS 4 0 2 EAST HATHAWAY DRIVE.
I AM CALLING ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD AND STAFF OF THE SAN ANTONIO MUSEUM OF ART OR SAMMA TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTED AT 3 2 6 WEST JONES DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO THE SAN ANTONIO MUSEUM OF ART.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 12 ON THE COMMISSION'S AGENDA.
SINCE THE 1970S, VISIONARY FOUNDERS OF FAMA COMMITTED THEMSELVES TO RESURRECTING THE CAMPUS OF THE HISTORIC LONE STAR BREWERY.
IN ONE OF THE EARLIEST EXAMPLES OF AN ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT FOR AN ART MUSEUM IN US HISTORY OWNING OVER 13 ACRES ALONG THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER IN THE MUSEUM REACH.
FAMA IS PROUD OF ITS ROLE IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND IS A CULTURAL ANCHOR FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, CITY AND REGION.
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PROPOSED FOR NEXTDOOR AND VIEW IT AS THE CONTINUING FULFILLMENT FOR POSITIVELY ACTIVATING THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO.THIS AREA WAS DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED AGAIN IN 2009 WITH THE OPENING OF THE RIVER IMPROVEMENTS OF THE MUSEUM REACH AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF PEARL BEGINNING IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.
AND CONTINUING TODAY, THIS AREA IS POISED FOR FURTHER SMART GROWTH IN TERMS OF URBAN WALKABILITY AND VIBRANT CULTURAL AMENITIES, WHICH WILL BE MORE FULLY REALIZED OVER TIME IN SAM'S RECENT BOARD APPROVED CAMPUS PLAN.
WE HAVE MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT NODE PROPOSED FOR THIS PROPERTY AT 3, 2 6, ESPECIALLY CONCERNING THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED TOWER AND ITS MATERIALITY.
THESE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY SHARED WITH OUR MCCOMBS NEIGHBORS ALREADY.
WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY, MCCOMBS AND SAMA, FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE PROPOSED HEIGHT AND MATERIAL.
MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER LOPEZ AND I AM LOCATED AT 3 2 2 EAST CHERYL DRIVE.
UH, MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (210) 452-5480.
AND THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF THE CASE NUMBER IS 2 9 3.
AND THERE'S ALSO A S FOR SIERRA.
BUT MY CONCERN AS FAR AS, UH, THE REZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS ONE, UH, PROPERTY TAXES, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE PROPERTY TAXES IN OUR AREA? WOULD THAT CHANGE ANYTHING? WOULD THAT INCREASE IT? UM, THAT IS MY FIRST CONCERN.
UM, MY SECOND CONCERN IS GOING TO BE PEST CONTROL.
UM, BECAUSE WITH THIS AGRICULTURE, UM, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A PEST ISSUE.
UM, AND US LIVING, YOU KNOW, TWO HOUSES DOWN, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA BE THE, THE PLAN FOR THE MITIGATION OF, OF POSSIBLE PEST, UM, INCREASE IN THE AREA, UM, AND SEE HOW THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO MANAGE THAT OR ALSO HELP THE PROPERTIES NEIGHBORING THAT PROPERTY MANAGE IT, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT'S GONNA BECOME A PROBLEM FOR US, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE TWO OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS AS FAR AS, UM, THE REZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY.
THIS IS ROSE HILL, PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HILL LINE FEE ASSOCIATION.
MY PROPERTY ADDRESS 2107 NORTH INTERSTATE 35.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO ONE ZERO FOUR TWO FOUR THREE TWENTY.
I'M CALLING REGARDING ZONING CASE TODAY, Z 20 25 1 0 7 0 0 3 1 8.
WE ARE REQUESTING ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT HEALTH ASSOCIATION, UH, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS TODAY, UH, NOT APPROVE THIS ZONING REQUEST.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, NOTIFIED THE REPRESENTATIVE TO COME TO OUR JANUARY 27TH, 2026 MEETING, UH, TO PRESENT THIS ZONING REQUEST.
UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE SEEN THIS AND WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
SO THEREFORE, AT THIS TIME, UH, IT WOULD BE GREATLY BE APPRECIATED THAT, UH, THEY, THE, THE REPRESENTATIVES POSTPONE THIS CASE TODAY.
COME TO OUR MEETING AND THEN AT THAT TIME WE WILL PRESENT EITHER A DENIAL OR, UH, OR WE WILL, UH, OR WE WILL PRESENT A, UH, APPROVAL ON THE ZONING REQUEST.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
HI, UH, MY NAME IS STEVE STEIG, ONE FIVE RENO STREET.
I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE 25 15 23 ALAMO.
UM, THIS CASE IS POSITIONED BY THE APPLICANT AS JUST THE SAME ZONING AS THE ABUTTING PROPERTY REZONED TWO YEARS AGO.
HOWEVER, IN THAT CASE THERE WERE ONLY 18 NOTICES SENT AND THERE ARE 17 PROPERTY OWNERS ALONE IN THE CONDOS OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, ONLY THE ADDRESSES FOR THE LAND OWNER WAS NOT NOTICED, IT SEEMS, WHICH DOES NOT ALIGN WITH STATE LAW, WHICH REQUIRES ALL REAL PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE NOTICED.
UH, AS I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM STAFF ON THIS, I SUSPECT THIS CASE MAY HAVE ALSO NOT NOTICED THE, UM, INDIVIDUAL REAL PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE CONDOS.
UH, UH, I ASK YOU TO, UH, CONTINUE THIS CASE TODAY.
UM, THIS, THIS SHOULD NOT GO TO COUNSEL BECAUSE, UH, THE, THAT PREVIOUS CASE TWO YEARS AGO, UH, THAT ORDINANCE COULD BE INVALIDATED, UH, IF IT WASN'T PROPERLY NOTICED.
UH, 'CAUSE IF HAS NOT BEEN THREE YEARS.
SO I URGE, UM, EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE WE'VE FILED THE CORRECT NOTICING HERE.
IF WE COULD HAVE OUR FIRST SPEAKER PLEASE.
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ROBERT ARAGON FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR ME OUT.
I'M IN OPPOSITION FOR THIS, UH, TO HAPPEN.
I'M SORRY MR. RAGONE, IF YOU WOULD TELL US YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
I AM HAVING ONGOING ISSUES WITH THE BUSINESS BEHIND ME.
UM, COMMERCIAL CODE ENFORCEMENT IS INVOLVED IN THIS.
UH, THE REASON I'M ALSO OPPOSING THIS IS THAT, UM, SOMETIMES I HAVE TRASH BREWING INTO MY YARD ON WINDY DAYS WITH AN OVERFILLED UH, DUMPSTER.
THE OTHER PROBLEM I HAVE TOO IS AN, AN EMPLOYEE URINATING BEHIND THE DUMPSTER.
I ALSO HAVE, UH, PROBLEMS WITH, UH, ALSO CUSTOMERS AS WELL, GOING BACK THERE AND URINATING.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU PHILLIP GANO FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
UH, I LIVE AT 1 5 4 1 0 ARROW WAY IN SAN ANTONIO.
BUT I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE CHANGE TO, UH, WOODBY WAY.
UM, MY WIFE, WE'VE OWNED TWO RENT HOUSES ON HITCHING STREET, WHICH IS HALF A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE, THE, UH, LOT THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT HERE THIS MORNING.
UH, WE HAVE, WE ARE IN SUPPORT.
UH, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CHANGE.
MY WIFE GREW UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AT THAT TIME WHEN THERE WAS A COMMUNITY OF FAMILIES LIVING IN MODEST WELL-KEPT HOMES AND GOOD NEIGHBORS WHO LOOKED AFTER EACH OTHER.
NOW IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF MANY OVERGROWN, TRASH FILLED, VACANT LOTS AND ABANDONED HOMES.
THESE CONDITIONS PROMOTE CRIME, DRUG DEALING, ANCY, BURGLARIES, AND UNSAFE CONDITIONS FOR ALL THOSE THERE WE FEEL THAT DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW HOUSING WOULD NOT ONLY IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONDITIONS, BUT WOULD DETER CRIME AND CREATE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT ENCOURAGING OTHER FAMILIES TO MOVE IN.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY HAPPENING ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND QUESTIONABLE PEOPLE HANGING AROUND HOUSES AND LOTS.
ANOTHER REASON FOR ENCOURAGING NEW HOME OWNERSHIP IN THE AREA IS THAT A FIRE THAT CONSUMED FOUR HOUSES ON POPLAR STREET, WHICH IS ABOUT HALF A BLOCK AWAY FROM THIS PARTICULAR LOT, ARE BEING, UH, AND THREATENED THAT THE OTHER HOMES AROUND IT.
WE KNOW THERE ARE POSSIBLE DRUGS BEING SOLD AROUND THERE.
WE NEVER FOUND OUT WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF THE FIRE, BUT IT LEFT FOUR VACANT LOTS AND THREE AND TWO VACANT HOMES.
WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL GRANT THIS ZONING CHANGE ALL OF THE 5.5 POINTS.
NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS DESERVE IT.
NEXT YOU HAVE SOME SIGN UP FOR ITEM NUMBER 11.
UH, YOU BROKE DOWN WHEELS AND HANDYMAN.
I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT NAME? IT APPEARS TO READ WHEELS AND HANDYMAN.
UH, ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR ITEM NUMBER 11 ON SOUTH FLORES? 2121? NOPE.
AND IF YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
I'M SORRY, ARE YOU THE APPLICANT? NO.
OKAY, SO I'M JUST A NEIGHBOR OF 21.
IF YOU WANNA TELL US YOUR, UH, THOUGHTS ON THAT PROJECT.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE IN FAVOR? YEAH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
NEXT FOR ITEM NUMBER 25, PRISCILLA UL.
ANYONE ELSE FOR 25? ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 25? ALRIGHT, MOVING ON.
THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.
MR I IF YOU WOULD STICK AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT.
ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL? SEEING NONE.
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ITEM FOUR, IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? YES.COMMISSIONER HUEY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEMS NUMBER 5 7 11 12 13 14, 15, 19 20.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
AND ACTUALLY I FORGOT SOMETHING.
MS. AGUILA, WOULD YOU COME UP AND WE SKIPPED A STEP? I APOLOGIZE.
UH, YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR ITEM 20? YES.
AND YOU ARE FORMALLY REQUESTING THAT WE AMEND YOUR REQUEST, UH, TO R FOUR CD FOR FOUR UNITS? YES.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER DUO IN REGARDS TO, UH, ITEM SEVEN ON THE AGENDA, I, UH, WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE, THE, I THINK IT'S, IT'S CALLED A COURT.
I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS PECULIAR.
I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY RESTRICTIONS OR DESIGN PRINCIPLES AROUND DENSITY WITH THE SIZE OF THE STREET.
'CAUSE THIS IS A PRETTY NARROW STREET.
SO WONDERING ABOUT SUITABILITY FOR THAT LEVEL OF DENSITY AND WHETHER STAFF HAD CONSIDERED THAT STAFF IS NOT CONCERNED WITH THE REQUESTED DENSITY ON THAT STREET NETWORK.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER? UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF 5 7 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 19, 20 AS AMENDED.
23, 25, 28 AND 29 BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
UH, FOR THOSE PEOPLE HERE, FOR THOSE ITEMS, UH, THAT WE JUST MENTIONED, UH, THEY'RE MOVING ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE APPLICANTS HAVE SIX MONTHS TO GET THERE.
UM, AND I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
YOU CAN MOVE ON AND ENJOY THIS SLIGHTLY CHILLY DAY.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA LET THEM HEAD OUT IN A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST CONTINUANCE HEARING TO FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026 ITEM.
SO WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT LOCATED AT 4 1 3 1 COLLIBRA ROAD REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026 MEETING.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT SEVEN CASE.
UH, IT'S COMMISSIONER SIPES TO YOU FOR A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO THE, UH, FEBRUARY 3RD MEETING.
UM, AND I SKIPPED PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANY.
THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 3RD.
UH, IS THIS THE APPLICANT HERE IN THE FIRST ROW? OKAY.
UM, NORMALLY WE DON'T LET YOU SPEAK AT THIS TIME 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HEAR YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
UH, DO YOU WANNA AMEND YOUR REQUEST? YES.
MAY I COME UP PLEASE? AND IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL ME YOUR ADDRESS.
I, UM, ANDREW HIJA 4 1 3 1 CALE ROAD.
WHAT CLARIFICATION, SIR, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? SO, UM, WE WERE HERE LAST WEEK FOR THE LAND USE AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE CONFUSION AND I JUST DON'T WANT THOSE CONFUSION TO CONTINUE.
'CAUSE I THINK NOTHING WAS CLARIFIED FROM LAST WEEK TO THIS WEEK.
UH, I HAD REPRESENTATION THAT I GUESS, MISUNDERSTOOD THE REQUEST THAT WE WANTED.
IT'S JUST TO HAVE A FULL SERVICE, CAR SALES.
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AND I KEEP SEEING THESE C3 REQUESTS AND C3 REQUESTS.I BELIEVE LAST WEEK THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT TO EXCLUDE.
AND SO THE RE THE, THE ONLY REQUEST WE ARE ASKING FOR IS, IS SIMPLY NOT TO CHANGE A ZONING TO THE PROPERTY TO KEEP IT AS A C TWO ON THE CITY LANGUAGE.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA CUT YOU OFF.
UH, 'CAUSE NOW I RECALL THIS CASE, UH, HAVING BEEN AT PLANNING.
SO RIGHT NOW, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS YOU OR THE COMMISSIONER WANTED ANOTHER TWO WEEKS.
SO WE'LL SEE YOU FEBRUARY 3RD.
UH, IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS REACH OUT TO COMMISSIONER SIPES.
YOU CAN GET HIS NUMBER FROM, UH, YOUR CASE MANAGER AND YOUR CASE MANAGER IS BRONTE.
UH, AND, AND CHAT WITH BRONTE AND REACH OUT TO COMMISSIONER SIPES.
UH, AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE THAT WAY.
'CAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY DO THAT TODAY.
BUT I JUST WANNA KNOW, SIR, WE'VE REACHED OUT TWICE.
AND, AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN CHAT WITH HIM ABOUT THAT, UH, WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THIS MEETING.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VE DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT.
MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 3RD.
UH, WE'RE NOW MOVING ON, SO WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
UH, WE'RE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR SECOND CONTINUANCE DOCKET, WHICH ARE CONTINUANCES FOR HEARINGS, I'M SORRY, CONTINUANCES TO OUR HEARING ON FEBRUARY 17TH, 2026.
SO WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ITEMS NUMBER 9, 16, 17, 22 AND 27 REQUESTING A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 17TH.
AND WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER SIGNED UP FOR ITEM NUMBER 27.
IF WE COULD HAVE THEM COME UP AND 16.
WHO, WHO ARE WE STARTING WITH? START OFF WITH ITEM NUMBER 16.
WE WILL, WE WILL SEE YOU IN A MONTH.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO 27 FOR LUCIA VERDE.
IF WE COULD HAVE SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES PLEASE COME ON UP.
UM, SHE'S ASKING THAT, UH, THE SONIFICATION NOT BE CHANGED THEN SHE STARTED TO SAY THAT SHE LIVES.
AND THAT'S WHAT SHE'S HERE FOR.
THIS THE ONE I HAD TO HOLD ON TO.
I LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THIS PLACE.
SHE WAS HERE TWO, SHE WAS HERE 22 YEARS AGO.
SO THAT TO UH, GET THE, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE STREET? IT'S THE EDGECLIFF STREET EDGE.
IT WAS, IT WAS, THERE WAS, IT WAS LIKE, UM, A CREEK ON THE STREET.
THE STREET WAS A CREEK SHE SAYS.
AND RIGHT NOW, 25 YEARS LATER, THERE'S STILL NO
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SIDEWALK.VERY LITTLE VISIBILITY IS VERY SMALL FOR TWO UH, UNITS.
AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE NOW WITH THE PARKING CARS WILL START, THEY START, THEY PARK RIGHT ALONG HER FENCE.
IT IMPACTS MY QUALITY OF LIFE.
IT'S AN IMPACT ON DIRECTLY ON MY PROPERTY.
IT AFFECTS MY LIVING CONDITIONS.
'CAUSE THESE PEOPLE THEY BUILD, THEY WITH SECTION EIGHT AND THEN IT BECOMES A BAD, UH, IT'S NOT AN AREA FOR THIS KIND OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND THIS CASE RIGHT NOW, UH, WE ARE SETTING IT POTENTIALLY FOR CONTINUANCE IN FOUR WEEKS.
SO YOU CAN COME BACK IN FOUR WEEKS.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU SHOULD BE GLAD TO COME BACK.
ALRIGHT, UH, ITEMS 9, 16, 17 22 AND 27 ARE, UH, ASKING FOR CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 17TH, 2026.
IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? COMMISSIONER HUEY, I MOVE TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO FEBRUARY 17TH, 2026.
ITEM NUMBER NINE, NUMBER 16, NUMBER 17.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
UH, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO FEBRUARY 17TH FOR ITEMS 9 16 17 22 AND 27.
ALRIGHT, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, 9 16, 17 22 AND 27.
WE WILL SEE YOU ON FEBRUARY 17TH.
I HOPE YOU ALL ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE.
GOOD AFTERNOON ZONING COMMISSION.
PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER ONE LOCATED AT 6 0 7 SOUTH KAMAL STREET IS GOING FROM I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO IDZ THREE.
HIGH INTENSITY INFIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR A LUMBERYARD AND BUILDING MATERIALS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 26 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED IN THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
THE, UH, THE EXISTING I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, UH, IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED IDZ THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITH USES PERMITTED FOR LUMBER YARD AND BUILDING MATERIALS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
UH, THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO OTHER INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS INVOLVING SIMILAR ACTIVITIES SUCH AS LOADING, STORAGE AND TRUCK TRAFFIC WHILE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES A BUT PORTIONS OF THE SITE.
THESE RESIDENCES ARE NONCONFORMING AND PREDATE THE SURROUNDING INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THEREFORE DO NOT REFLECT THE PREVAILING LAND USE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
THE IDZ THREE DISTRICT ENABLES SITE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ADDRESS COMPATIBILITY AND SUPPORT THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE AND SIR IF YOU WOULD SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN TELL US ABOUT YOUR REQUEST.
AND YOU WANT THE ADDRESS THAT WE ARE CHANGING THE ZONING FOR 6 0 7 KAMAL.
YEAH, TELL US, TELL US WHY YOU'RE SEEKING THIS REQUEST.
UH, WELL REALLY TO DO MUCH OF ANYTHING
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ON THIS PROPERTY, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE NON-CONFORMING RESIDENTIAL USE NEXT DOOR.UM, THIS PROPERTY IS A VACANT LAND, SO IN ORDER TO DEVELOP IT, UM, WE HAVE TO, UH, CHANGE THE ZONING BECAUSE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING REQUIRES A 50 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE, UH, NON-CONFORMING RESIDENT.
SO IT DOESN'T OFFER MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, IS TO CALL OUT THE LUMBER YARD, WHICH IS A NON-TOXIC, IT'S NOT HEAVY, UH, INDUSTRIAL USE REALLY NECESSARILY, UM, TO MAKE IT MORE APPROPRIATE TO BE, UH, UP TO THE NORMAL SETBACKS FOR THE AREA.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER SIGNED UP.
AND WHERE DID HE GO? DANIEL HERNANDEZ.
MR. HERNANDEZ QUESTION OUT THE HALLWAY? YEAH, COME ON UP.
MR. KREEL ON THE, I'M NOT SURE IF, IF HE MAY HAVE LEFT, BUT HE ADDRESSED ME IN THE HALLWAY AND I THINK THAT HE FEELS, I GUESS FINE WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
DID HE, IS HE THE ONE THAT SAID OPPOSED FORTH? HE WAS, HE WAS THE OPPOSITION? YEAH, I GUESS, I GUESS MAYBE HE'S NO LONGER.
YEAH, IF YOU WANT, I DID FACILITATE A CONVERSATION IN THE HALLWAY AND IT DID SOUND LIKE THE, THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS OPPOSED TO CHANGED HIS POSITION.
ANY OTHER, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, MR. KREEL, WHILE I HAVE HERE AND SINCE WE'RE HERE ANYWAY.
UM, SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING, DO YOU KNOW WHICH SIDE MR. HERNANDEZ WOULD BE ON IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN HERE? YEAH, IF YOU WERE LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE SITE PLAN.
HE IS ACROSS, UH, ALTO STREET ON THE LEFT SIDE.
ALRIGHT, UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT? YES.
THE, UH, 6 0 5 SOUTH KAMAL STREET LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S OCCUPIED.
THAT IS THE NON-CONFORMING HOUSE, CORRECT? RIGHT.
AND, UH, HAVE WE HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE OWNER OF THAT HOUSE? NO.
I, I SUPPOSE WHAT, LIKE WHAT, WHAT WERE THE EFFORTS TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO THIS? 'CAUSE JUST ONE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, THEY DIDN'T RESPOND, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPINION.
UM, DID YOU, DID YOU ALL REACH OUT OR GO TO THEIR DOOR OR TRY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM? BECAUSE IT, IT'S OBVIOUS FROM GOOGLE STREET VIEW THAT THEY'RE, THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT LIVES THERE.
IT'S, IT'S MAINTAINED AND YEAH.
UM, SO I I I, I'VE TRIED TO TALK WITH 'EM BEFORE.
THEY DON'T SEEM LIKE SUPER INTERESTED IN, IN TALKING.
I MEAN, I, I OWNED THE PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY.
THEY USED TO HAVE TWO OTHER NON-CONFORMING RESIDENTIAL HOMES ON IT THAT I SOLD.
THE, UH, THE OWNER WHO BOUGHT THEM, UM, HE JUST MISMANAGED IT SO THEY CAME BACK TO ME.
SO I OWN THEM NOW AND THERE'S NO HOUSES ON IT, SO IT'S JUST EMPTY LANDS.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
UM, IN THE YEARS PAST I'VE TALKED TO 'EM, THEY SEEM, UH, YOU KNOW, UNCONCERNED ABOUT ALL OF THE INDUSTRIAL AROUND THE ENTIRE AREA.
THE WHOLE AREA IS MOSTLY INDUSTRIAL.
SO, UH, THIS WOULD JUST BE, UH, IT, IT'S ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY AN IMPROVEMENT.
UM, BEHIND THEM IS ANOTHER NONCONFORM RESIDENTIAL HOME THAT'S ABANDONED AND IT'S BEEN, UH, IT'S BEEN LIKE BURGLARIZED.
SO ANYONE THAT I THINK IS TAKING ANY, UH, EFFORTS TO LIKE, MAKE THIS PLACE SAFER IS PROBABLY, PROBABLY BETTER, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM.
AND TO, TO CONFIRM, YOU HAVE MET THE OWNERS BEFORE.
YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH THEM BEFORE.
THEY'RE PEOPLE WHO OCCUPIED OUR RENTERS, SO NO, I'VE NOT MET THE OWNERS.
FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? YES.
SORRY, MR. GOMEZ, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER ACTUALLY.
MR. PATRICIA CHADWELL, IF YOU WOULD, UH, SIT DOWN RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT ROW MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER.
AND MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER FOR FEDERAL RECYCLING.
WE'RE ACROSS THE STREET AT 7 0 1 SAN FERNANDO AND WE DEFINITELY DON'T OPPOSE TO HAVING A LUMBERYARD ACROSS THE WAY.
I THINK WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS JUST THE, WE'RE OPPOSED AT CHANGING IT FROM I TWO.
THANK YOU MS. UH, CHADWICK, THAT IS ZIPPER PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, AND MS. CHADWICK, I THINK YOU MIGHT WANNA SIT IN THE FRONT ROW TOO.
I THINK I MIGHT HAVE NEW QUESTIONS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? ALRIGHT.
UM, OKAY, MS. CHADWICK, I, I DO WANT TO EXPLORE THIS A LITTLE BIT IF YOU WOULD COME UP.
UM, SO DO YOU HAVE A REASON AS TO WHY YOU'RE OPPOSED TO, UH, IN THIS CASE DOWN ZONING TO A STILL FAIRLY INTENSE, YOU KNOW,
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EITHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE? WELL, WHAT THEY'RE THINKING IS THAT EVEN IF IT'S STATED AS A LUMBERYARD, A BUILDING MATERIALS, A SHIFT IN ZONING COULD OPEN THE DOOR TO FUTURE NON-INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS THAT ARE LESS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. CHADWICK.
ALRIGHT, LET'S GO AROUND THE HORN ONE MORE TIME.
UH, MR. KREEL, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? UM, MY, MY ONLY THOUGHT, LIKE, SO IF, IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY THAT I COULD KEEP THE ZONING TO I TWO 'CAUSE LUMBERYARD'S ALREADY PERMITTED, IF THERE'S A WAY THAT I COULD DEVELOP THE PROPERTY UNDER I TWO, UH, BUT THERE'S NOT, RIGHT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T OPPOSE THE I TWO ZONING OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING OTHERWISE.
ALRIGHT, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER BEL, UH, JUST FOR, I THINK I KNOW WHY, BUT COULD STAFF EXPLAIN WHY, UH, IT COULDN'T BE DEVELOPED? WHY THERE WOULDN'T BE A WAY TO HAVE AN EXCEPTION WITH THE, UH, BI I TWO TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT? UM, JUST WITH THE, THE BUILDABLE AREA, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SMALL LOT, THE IDZ THREE REDUCES THE SETBACKS ON THE SIDE AND REAR.
UM, SO THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, USABLE.
COULD IT JUST, AND I, THIS ISN'T, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION.
COULD A VARIANCE BE USED TO OBTAIN RELIEF FROM THAT SETBACK REQUIREMENT AND ALLOW FOR THE, UH, I TWO ZONING? THAT IS AN OPTION.
THE, I, I'LL ADD I GUESS THAT THERE'S THE PARKING ELEMENT AS WELL.
UM, SO IT DOES REDUCE THE PARKING BY 50% WHEN YOU DO THE IDZ THREE.
SO THAT COMBINATION, I SUPPOSE, MADE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO REQUEST IT THIS WAY.
I GUESS ONLY WOULD THE, UM, IS THE REDUCTION OF THE PARKING TO THE APPLICANT, UH, IS THE REDUCTION OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENT THE DEAL BREAKER OR WAS IT THE SETBACKS? UH, I, I THINK, I THINK BOTH ARE ADVANTAGEOUS.
IT'S 55 BY 75 FEET, SO EVEN FOR WHAT THE USE THAT WE'RE DOING, IT IS PRETTY MINIMAL, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S, IT'S A SMALL SPACE, SO BOTH ARE APPEALING AND, UM, WE FELT LIKE WHILE WE WERE TAKING A LOSS ON, ON THE, ON THE ACTUAL CALLING OUT THE LUMBER YARD BECAUSE IT'S LIKE LESS MARKETABLE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, WE GAIN IN THE WAYS THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING AND WITH THE SETBACKS AND WITH THE PARKING.
SO, AND IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SEEING NONE FURTHER QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE REMOTELY, NO, THANK YOU.
THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT IS TO ME FOR A DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
I APPRECIATE, UH, FEDERAL RECYCLING'S CONCERN ABOUT I TWO, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS YOUR ZONING RUNS WITH THE LAND AND ABSENT A ZONING CHANGE, IT WILL REMAIN THERE.
UH, THIS AREA OF TOWN HAS BEEN NEGLECTED SINCE AT LEAST 1921 AND THE FLOOD THAT RIPPED THROUGH THESE CREEKS.
UM, WE CAN HAVE DEBATES AS TO WHAT THE APPROPRIATE USES ARE GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN.
UH, WE DO HAVE, AS MS. CHADWICK POINTED OUT ON BEHALF OF HER COMPANY, A GREAT NUMBER OF INDUSTRIAL USES.
THAT BEING SAID, I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING SOME DIVERSITY IN THIS AREA.
IT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO DOWNTOWN 7 8 2 0 7 IS ONE OF THE POOREST ZIP CODES IN THE CITY, IF NOT THE COUNTRY.
UM, SO GIVEN THAT, GIVEN THE SPACE RESTRICTIONS THAT MR. KREEL MENTIONED, GIVEN THE, THE PARKING ISSUES THAT MR. KREEL MENTIONED AND BECAUSE IT DOES LIMIT THE INDUSTRIAL USES, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE AND SO MOVE SECOND.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DR.
ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER ELL, UM, IN, IN GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT HERE SPECIFICALLY DIRECTLY IMPACTS THIS ADJOINING PROPERTY.
NORMALLY NOTICE REQUIREMENTS ARE MEANT TO GIVE A FAIR SHAKE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE HEARD.
BUT BECAUSE HERE IT'S, IT'S REALLY A, UH, DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTION THAT'S MEANT TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY OWNER.
I REALLY WISH THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, CONTACT COULD HAVE BEEN MADE WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THERE'S STILL TIME UNTIL THIS WOULD GO TO COUNSEL, UH, TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REQUIRE MORE EFFORTS TO BE MADE, BUT I WOULD, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION NOT THAT THAT MATTERS.
UM, AS FOR THE CONCERN ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, IDZ AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE, UH, OR YOU KNOW, HAVING A HIGHER, MORE INTENSE ZONING, THE SURROUNDING AREA SEEMS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE HIGHER ZONING.
IF THERE EVER WAS, YOU KNOW, A CHANGE IN USE ON THAT REMAINING RESIDENTIAL LOT AND THERE WAS A LOT MERGER, I KNOW I'D BE OPEN TO ZONING IT UP FOR, YOU KNOW, A FUTURE USE.
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UM, BUT AT THIS TIME I THINK IT MAKES SENSE WITH THE PARKING, UM, LIMITATIONS TO HAVE THE IDC INSTEAD.SEEING NONE FURTHER DISCUSSION, RIGHT? YES.
COMMISSIONER CHASE, I AM GOING TO SUPPORT YOUR DECISION FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU STATED AND IT'S ALSO IN A FLOOD ZONE, SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY IT CAN'T JUST BE DEALT WITH, WITH A VARIANCE AND IT SHOULD COME TO ZONING.
SO, UM, THAT'S MY REASON FOR SUPPORTING.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHASE.
UH, COMMISSIONER KELLY DISCUSSION.
AND WE WILL TAKE ANY FUTURE CASES AS THEY COME TO US, SO WE'LL DEAL WITH THOSE ON THAT, THAT DAY.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE BY ME WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
ALRIGHT Y'ALL, Y'ALL ARE HEADING TO CITY COUNCIL.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
WE HAVE FOLKS SIGNED UP FOR BOTH TWO AND THREE.
UM, THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER.
DO YOU WANT US TO DO THE SPEAKERS INDIVIDUALLY FOR TWO AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL, THE SAME SPEAKERS FOR ITEM THREE? OR DO YOU WANT TO KIND OF DO BOTH TWO AND THREE AT THE SAME TIME AND THEN HAVE THE SPEAKERS SPEAK FOR THOSE ITEMS? I AM GONNA DEFER TO COMMISSIONER HUEY AS THESE ARE HIS CASES.
I THINK WE CAN, UH, LET THE SPEAKERS COMBINE BUT AS LONG AS THEY GET THEIR ALLOCATED TIME, I BELIEVE IT'S THREE MINUTES PER CASE.
RIGHT? TWO, UH, TWO MINUTES PER CASE.
I, I WOULD ADVISE BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE CASES THAT THEY BE HANDLED SEPARATELY.
ALRIGHT, LET'S GO DOWN, WE'LL DO 'EM SEPARATELY.
EVERYONE GETS TWO MINUTES PER CASE.
WHAT I WOULD ASK THEN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE SIGNED UP FOR TWO AND THREE, UH, IS TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE SPECIFIC CASE, WHETHER IT'S TWO OR THREE.
UH, THERE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE A GREAT DEAL OF OVERLAP.
UH, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT UH, YOU'RE GONNA SAY THE SAME INFORMATION BETWEEN THE TWO CASES, YOU KNOW, TRY TO KEEP 'EM SEPARATE.
UH, THEN LET'S BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO PLEASE.
I THINK THOSE INSTRUCTIONS MADE NO SENSE SO I APOLOGIZE
FOREST WILSON, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS LOCATED AT 56 50 AND 56 82.
EASTERLING DRIVE, UH, IS GOING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC, NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED THE MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UH, THE PROPOSED C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A BUDDING AND LOCATED WITH WITHIN PROXIMITY TO HIGH INTENSE COMMERCIAL BASED ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED NEAR A PRIMARY ARTERIAL ROAD, WHICH CAN ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USES.
UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS SUITABLE TRANSITION BETWEEN HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I THINK THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO? YES, THE APPLICANT'S PRESENT.
DID YOU ASK SIR? WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO ALL THE COMMENTS IN A SECOND.
WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FIRST.
I'M SORRY, UH, SORRY MY MICROPHONE WASN'T ON.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES.
UH, IF YOU WOULD SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE REQUESTING THIS ZONING CHANGE PLEASE.
YES, MY NAME'S ELIZABETH LOPEZ.
ADDRESS IS 7 7 0 9 LAKESIDE STREET AND I AM GOING TO TRANSFER MY MINUTES TO MR. GREG BROCK HOUSE.
SO MR. BROCK HOUSE IS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE? YES.
APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE WAS PRESENT.
SO ON A TIME RESTRICTION, WHAT AM I LOOKING AT? ARE STILL TWO MINUTES OR NO, YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES.
YEAH, 'CAUSE I'LL BE SPEAKING AS WE TALKED ABOUT, MENTIONED EARLIER, SO BE VERY CAREFUL.
THIS IS THE SAME INFORMATION FOR TWO AND THREE.
UH, SIR, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD, UH, GREG
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BROCK, SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.HOUSE 2 2 9 2 6 STEEPLE BLUFF.
UH, I I WANT IT TO BE DOWN HERE TODAY TO GIVE YOU SOME HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, UH, ON THIS CASE.
UH, ON THE RIVER CITY READY MIX.
AND THIS PIECE OF LAND HAS BEEN OBVIOUSLY TO ADDRESS OUR, THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR DISTRICT SIX DIRECTLY.
BUT, UH, TO HOPEFULLY SHINE SOME LIGHT ON HOW SOMETIMES WE GET INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ZONING AND APPLICATIONS AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS A BUSINESS AND THEN OVER YEARS NEIGHBORHOODS GET INVOLVED WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, GET INVOLVED IN LEGAL BATTLES AND ZONING AND FINES AND FEES AND THINGS JUST KIND OF GET OUTTA CONTROL.
SO THIS, I WILL TELL YOU AS THE FORMER DISTRICT SIX COUNCILMAN, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS CASE.
UM, IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LOT OF YEARS AND I'M HERE, UH, TO SAY, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH FOR, FOR MRS. LOPEZ, FOR RIVER CITY READY MIX AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR YEARS, FRANKLY, AND I'D BE BLUNT TO GET THIS BUSINESS THE HECK OUT OF DISTRICT SIX.
UH, THE RIVER CITY READY MIX PLANT HAS BEEN THERE FOR DECADES AND OVER TIME THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYBODY KIND OF ENVELOPED IT AND THAT CREATES A LOT OF TENSION.
A CONCRETE READY MIX BUSINESS IS NOT WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER A BUSINESS YOU WANT NEXT DOOR TO YOUR HOME.
UM, SO OVER TIME, JUST THE NOISE, THE DUST AND DIRT HAS REALLY BUILT A LOT OF CONCERNS.
SO, UH, THERE'S BEEN A VAST LEGAL CASE THAT'S BEEN SITTING ON THIS.
IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER A COURT ORDER, UH, FOR CLEANUP, UH, AND REMEDIATION BY JANUARY 31ST AND FOR THE APPLICANT TO BE MOVED OUT OF THE FACILITY BY THAT DATE AS WELL.
UM, I'M HERE TO TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S BEEN, THE CLEANUP IS ACTIVELY GOING ON.
UM, AND IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK, UH, THREE MONTHS OF JUST TRYING TO GET, I MEAN, YOU CAN NAME THE TYPE OF TRASH AND DUMPING THAT'S CREEKS AND PEOPLE LEAVE THERE, THE BUSINESS DEBRIS, EVERYTHING IS GETTING MOVED OUT TO HE LOTUS.
UH, SO WE ARE ACTUALLY ABOUT TO MOVE THE ENTIRE BUSINESS FOR THE, UM, FOR THE LOPEZ IS OUT TO HE LOTUS AND THE ETJ.
SO THEY WILL NO LONGER BE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THE FULL RIDES TO DO EVERYTHING OUT THERE.
I'VE ALREADY COORDINATED WITH THE MAYOR OF HE LOTUS AND THEIR CITY TEAM AS WELL, SO THAT THEY CAN ACCEPT THIS PROPERTY AND THEN THEY'LL BEGIN CONDUCTING BUSINESS OUT OF THERE.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THE ZONING IS TO OBVIOUSLY BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING USEFUL AND MEANINGFUL WITH THIS LAND AND PROPERTY AFTER THEY MOVE OUT.
IT ENHANCES VALUE, IT ALLOWS THEM TO BRING IN MULTIPLE BUSINESSES.
THIS, I WILL TELL YOU, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN OVER THE TOP WITH OFFERING ANY CONCESSIONS NECESSARY, UH, WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS.
SO NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE, UH, AND HAS BEEN OFF THE TABLE WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT CAN THE APPLICANT PUT IN THIS LOCATION THAT STILL HELPS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BUT ALSO ALLOWS THEM TO SELL THE PROPERTY, MARKET IT APPROPRIATELY, AND BRING IN DIFFERENT USES AND, AND THEN JUST GET OUT OF THERE AND, AND RECOUP THEIR COSTS AND MONEY AND START A NEW LIFE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO THE GOAL OF BOTH OF THESE APPLICATIONS, BUT SPECIFICALLY ON NUMBER TWO IS JUST THAT GET THE ZONING, UH, OF WHICH THE STAFF HAS APPROVED.
LET'S BE FRANK, YOUR STAFF IS IN APPROVAL.
UM, IT WASN'T ALWAYS THAT WAY THOUGH, ON THESE ITEMS,
THE NEIGHBORHOOD WINS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE GONE.
BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE FRICTION ON WHAT COMES AFTER THAT.
IT'S NOT THE LOPEZ'S RESPONSIBILITY AT THAT POINT TO SEE WHO'S GONNA APPLY AND TRY TO BUY.
WE GOT, WE HAVE TO WORK AND FIND THE BEST POSSIBLE, UH, APPLICANT, THE BEST POSSIBLE PURCHASE.
AND THIS ZONING IS CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT TO HELPING THEM GET THE HECK OUT OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND, AND YES, THEIR FRIENDS, I'VE WORKED WITH THEM OVER THE YEARS, I'M TRYING TO HELP 'EM NOW SIMPLY BECAUSE, AND REPRESENT THEM HERE TODAY BECAUSE IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO GO, IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO MOVE AND LEAVE THE FACILITY AND TURN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PIECE OF LAND BACK OVER TO A DEVELOPABLE OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I'VE SPOKEN AT LENGTH WITH COUNCILMAN GALVAN ABOUT IT, AND THAT'S THE GOAL OF EVERYBODY INVOLVED IS THE REMOVAL OF THE BUSINESS, THE CHANGING OF THE ZONING.
ITEM NUMBER TWO ALLOWS THIS PARCEL, WHICH HAS REALLY NOT BEEN A, A HUGE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
UM, THE ITEM NUMBER THREE WILL BE THE LARGER DISCUSSION WE HAVE ON OPPOSITION.
THIS ONE HAS GENERALLY ALWAYS BEEN JUST OKAY, UM, AND, AND READY TO MOVE THE, THE MASSIVE DUMPING AND, AND, AND DIRT AND, AND BACKFILL AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF'S ON CASE NUMBER THREE.
SO FOR CASE NUMBER TWO, THOUGH, THE COMMUNITY AND, AND THE COUNCILMEN AND AND PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE KIND OF ALWAYS BEEN IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS OKAY, WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT, BUT THEY'RE GONE.
UH, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THAT POINT WITH YOU LIKE THIS SERVES BOTH PURPOSES.
ITEM NUMBER TWO HELPS THE COMMUNITY AND IT HELPS THE LOPEZ AS IT ENDS.
THE YEARS ACTUALLY A DECADES LONG BATTLE, UH, THAT HAS LENT NOTHING TO KNOW, BUT OTHER THAN JUST HEARTACHE AND HEARTBREAK AND PEOPLE LOSING MONEY.
SO WE'RE APPLYING TO, TO MAKE THE PROPERTY MORE REASONABLE FOR THE NEXT PURCHASER AND WE'LL APPLY ANY DEED RESTRICTIONS NECESSARY TO ENSURE
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THAT WE HAVE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.WE HAVE A LIST OF DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WE ARE PREPARED TO APPLY, UH, AND AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS READY TO GO.
AND I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS THOUGHT.
SO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS NUMBER ONE TOOL IS ZONING, RIGHT? AS A, AS A LEADER OF HIS OR HER COMMUNITY.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS JUST PASS THIS ON TO CITY COUNCIL.
LET COUNCILMAN GALVAN THE TRUE REPRESENTATIVE, ALL DISTRICT SIX, LET HIM MAKE THE FINAL DECISION BASED ON THE LOPEZ'S WORK TO CLEAN AND REMEDIATE THE PROPERTY AND TO, AND THEIR, THEIR ACTUAL HARD WORK TO GET THE HECK OUT OF THERE.
NOW, WHY I STAND HERE IS LIKE, LET'S PUSH THIS THROUGH AND LET THE COUNCILMAN EXERCISE IT.
THIS ISN'T THE END OF THE DAY, RIGHT? BUT THE COUNCILMAN DOES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ON THIS CASE.
THE SECOND ONE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ONE.
IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ITEM, BUT THIS ONE I THINK WE ARE ALL ON BOARD TO SAY, LET'S GET AFTER THIS.
LET'S CHANGE THE ZONING AND, AND LET'S ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE ON.
SO, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. BROCK HOUSE.
AND I WILL REMIND EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WE ARE A RECOMMENDING BODY.
WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEY CAN DO WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WHAT THEY WILL.
ALRIGHT, BUT AT THIS POINT, UH, IT IS TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
DO WE HAVE VOICEMAILS? WE DO NOT HAVE VOICEMAILS, BUT WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS.
ALRIGHT, WELL THEN LET'S BEGIN WITH THE SPEAKERS.
CARL ROGER FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
CAN WE SAY IT AGAIN? CARL, ROGER.
CARL AND MS. LOPEZ ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
ALRIGHT, MR. ROGER, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANNA SPEND YOUR TIME AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE GONNA TRANSFER THEIR TIME TO ME.
WELL YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOW THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, SO YOU DON'T NEED THAT TIME NECESSARILY, BUT MR. ROGER, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP AND GIVE US YOUR OPINION.
IF YOU WOULD SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
MY ADDRESS IS 1906 ELWORTHY STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
ALRIGHT, ARE, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED? I'M IN FAVOR.
WE GOOD? YOU WANNA TELL US WHY YOU DON'T HAVE TO
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. ROPER.
I APPRECIATE IT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING YOUR NAME WRONG.
OKAY, ARE YOU GIVING YOUR TIME MA'AM? YOU, YOU CAN JUST TELL ME.
YOU CAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP HERE.
SORRY, YOU'RE GIVING, WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? WILLIAM MCDONALD.
MR. MCDONALD IS GIVING HIS TIME TO MS. NOW.
NOW I'VE GOTTEN THE NAMES WRONG.
FLOES OR PET FLORES? FLO FLOES.
AND MS. FLOES, IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
OKAY, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT HERE.
MY NAME IS REBECCA FLORES BEES.
I OWN AND LIVE AT 1 0 2 3 OHM CROSBY IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
IN 2019, I REP STARTED REPRESENTING A GROUP OF HOAS, WHICH INCLUDE THE GREAT NORTHWEST COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION.
WESTOVER VALLEY, HOA HIDDEN MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOODS ASSOCIATION, THE RESERVE AT KBRA CREEK AND OF COURSE MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES COALITION.
UH, OUR CONCERN WERE CODE VIOLATIONS AND ZONING REQUESTS MADE BY RIVER CITY.
IN ADDITION, I HAVE A COUPLE OF PETITIONS HERE WITH AN ADDITIONAL 22 SIGNATURES THAT ARE IN NOT IN FAVOR.
WE OF COURSE OPPOSE THIS CASE AND I HOPE THAT YOU HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE SETTLEMENT MEMORANDUM BETWEEN THE CITY AND RIVER CITY READY MIX.
UM, SINCE 2004, I HAVE MONITORED RIVER CITY READY MIX.
AND MORE RECENTLY, THEIR PROPERTY HAS ACCUMULATED MORE THAN 200 UNRESOLVED VIOLATIONS AND CITATIONS.
THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL PRACTICES HAVE RAVED CONS, SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS IN 2005, A YEAR LATER, AFTER A-T-C-E-Q COMPLAINT.
MR. LOPEZ AGREED TO CONTROL DUST ON CULEBRA AND EASTERLY BY WATERING DOWN THE ROADS.
BUT THIS EFFORT DID NOT LAST LAST LONG.
IN 2017, THEY MOVED THEIR CEMENT BATCHING PLANT WITHOUT PERMIT TO 56 50 EASTERLY.
THE MOVE WAS DONE, OF COURSE, WITHOUT ZONING APPROVAL OR UH, CITY APPROVAL.
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OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE LOPEZ'S WAS REACHED FOR SEVERAL LOT, LOTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF EASTERLING TO CLEAN UP THE LOTS AND TO RESTRICT CLASS C TRUCKS.IN TURN, WE AGREED TO SUPPORT A C TWO NA ZONING.
THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF EASTERLING, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, BUT NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
THE PROPERTY REMAINS CLUTTERED WITH INOPERABLE VEHICLES AND ASSORTED JUNK.
THE AGREED CLEANUP AND THE SETTLEMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE EMAILED TO YOU MADE IN 25 WITH THE CITY WILL PROBABLY NOT BE MET THIS MORNING.
WE DID A DRIVE BY AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
UM, ANY TRUST THAT MAY HAVE EXISTED BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITY AND RIVER CITY HAS COMPLETELY ERODED.
AS A RESULT, WE STAND FIRMLY OPPOSED TO THIS ZONING REQUEST.
WHILE WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT DEVELOPMENT IS THE FUTURE OF OUR RAPID GROWING CITY, IT IS CRUCIAL TO ENSURE THAT SUCH DEVELOPMENTS ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST, INTEREST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
GRANTING THIS ZONING REQUEST WOULD BE UNJUST TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THE PATTERN OF DISREGARD SERIOUSLY CONCERNS ABOUT FAIRNESS AND RESPECT OF THEIR IDEAS TO THIS PROCESS THAT THE CITY HAS ESTABLISHED.
WE URGE YOU TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPECT WARRANTS A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE NEW PROSPECTIVE BUYERS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY DEALING WITH THEM DIRECTLY.
AND WE ASK THAT YOU PROTECT OUR CITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BY NOT RECOMMENDING THIS ZONING REQUEST.
I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT ALL OF THAT AGAIN FOR THE NEXT CASE.
WELL, THAT'S EXCELLENT, BUT MS. FLORES, UHHUH, YOU ARE OUT OF TIME FOR THIS CASE.
THAT IS IT FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
UM, LOPEZ, DID YOU SIGN UP? DID, DID MS, SHE SIGNED UP FOR NUMBER THREE.
DID SHE SIGNED UP FOR BOTH? BOTH.
WE'RE GONNA CALL NUMBER THREE AFTER MS. LOPEZ.
WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE HER UP HERE FOR TWO MINUTES.
DIDN'T SHE GIVE HER TIME TO HER REPRESENTATIVE? TECHNICALLY, BUT I THINK THAT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING.
SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW TWO MINUTES FOR MS. LOPEZ AT THIS TIME.
THAT, THAT WAS A COMPLETE MISUNDERSTANDING.
'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THREE MINUTES OF REBUTTAL RIGHT NOW, SO, OKAY.
HOW ABOUT THAT? THAT'S PERFECT.
ALRIGHT, LET'S THANK YOU, MR. BROADCAST.
SO, UM, I I GET COMMUNITY DIFFICULTIES.
UM, WHAT YOU HEARD MS. PETA SAY IS VERY CLEAR.
IT, IT, IT'S A LOT OF ANGER, IT'S DISAPPOINTMENT, IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT LET'S STICK WITH SOME FACTS, RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO REMOVE THE EMOTION OUT OF IT.
THE FACT IS, THEY HAVE TILL THE 31ST TO CLEAN IT UP.
IF THEY DO NOT MEET THAT THERE ARE REPERCUSSIONS THAT MS. PEREZ OR NOBODY CAN BE.
WE CAN'T HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE FOR A DEADLINE THAT HE HAS NOT MET YET WHEN THE DEADLINE IS NOT HERE YET.
WE COULD BE ANGRY AT 10 YEARS OF DIFFICULTY.
I DO NOT DISPUTE ANY OF THE ISSUES OF NEIGHBORHOOD DIFFICULTIES, COMMUNICATION WITH LEADERS, PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THERE WAS, IT WAS ONE OF THE ONES I WANTED GONE.
UM, AND WHEN I SEE THIS OPPORTUNITY, I SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MOVE ON.
AND THIS IS HARD BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THIS, THE INTEREST IN OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IN HEART.
AND I, I ALWAYS PRIDED MYSELF ON BEING ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS, NEIGHBORHOODS FIRST.
BUT AT SOME POINT WE DO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT SHE CLEARLY SAID, I, I'M SORRY.
SHE CLEARLY SAID, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE ZONING JUST NOT FOR HER.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION AND MY ASK IS PASS IT ON TO THE COUNCIL, RIGHT? I GET YOU'RE GONNA MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION CHAIRMAN'S.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT? BUT THIS IS TRULY SUCH A COMMUNITY ISSUE NOW THAT ULTIMATELY THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE SHOULD MAKE THIS CALL.
I'M JUST HERE TO TELL YOU STAFF APPROVES IT.
MS. PEZ APPROVES IT FOR ANYBODY BUT HER.
THAT'S NOT THE TOOL'S PURPOSE, RIGHT? IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAN IS MET, THE ZONING CASE IS MET, AND THAT WE COULD ULTIMATELY GET TO A REAL OUTCOME.
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WE'VE GOTTA PUT THIS BACK TO THE LAP OF THE COUNCILMAN AND LET THERE BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMUNITY WORK.WE'VE SPOKEN ON AND OFF AND I, I WAS TEXT, TEXTING THE COUNCILMAN'S DISTRICT'S SIX ZONING REP.
THEY WERE EXPECTING NUMBER TWO TO BE OKAY,
SO THE FACT THAT I HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS ON NUMBER TWO WILL PROBABLY BE THE SAME THING ON NUMBER THREE.
BUT NUMBER TWO WAS WE WERE EXPECTING, WE WERE EXPECTING THIS ONE TO BE, OKAY.
SO SOMETHING CHANGED AND THAT'S OKAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT, IT WAS INCORRECT FEEDBACK.
ALL THOSE JUNK CARS AND THINGS, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN REMOVED.
IT'S JUST SO MUCH THAT YOU GOTTA BRING 30, 40 PEOPLE OUT THERE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
DON'T HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE YET.
STICK TO HIM AND HE'S GOTTA DO IT.
IF NOT, SAVITA AND THE CITY ATTORNEYS AND EVERYBODY ELSE ARE GONNA BE BREATHING DOWN THEIR NECK, REINSTITUTING A DISTRICT COURT FINE.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS RIGHT NOW, STAFF APPROVES THE COUNCIL OFFICE WAS OKAY WITH IT.
IN FACT, SHE IS OKAY WITH THE ZONING, JUST NOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, WHICH IS HOW WE BUILD A COMMUNITY, RIGHT? AND HOW WE COME IN AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT HERE.
ALRIGHT? AND I THINK THIS ALLOWS THAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, AT THIS TIME THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM HAVE ALL RAISED OR ALMOST ALL RAISED ISSUES, UH, REGARDING AN AGREED ORDER.
WE ARE GOING TO, AS A COMMISSION, GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF SEEKING ATTORNEY CLIENT GUIDANCE.
SO WE WILL STAND IN RECESS AT THIS TIME, TWO 12 TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF SEEKING, UH, ATTORNEY ADVICE.
IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER KELLY, I RECOMMEND YOU LEAVE THE WEBEX MEETING IN THIS ROOM.
WE WILL CALL YOU IN THE OTHER ROOM SO THAT YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT SESSION.
WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, IF I MIGHT HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH US.
UM, WE ENTERED EXECUTIVE SESSION AT APPROXIMATELY 2 15, 2 16.
WE LEFT EXECUTIVE SESSION AT APPROXIMATELY 2 46.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO BEGIN OUR, UH, QUESTIONS FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
SO COMMISSIONER HUEY TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
AND AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WISDOM AND, UH, CALLING US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS CASE.
UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR MS UH, PEREZ, WOULD YOU COME UP FOR A MINUTE PLEASE? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN HERE.
UH, SO IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU HAD SHOWN US SOME, UH, PICTURES.
UH, WERE THERE SOME OTHER, UM, MEDIA THAT YOU HAD THAT YOU HAD PLANNED TO PRESENT THAT UH, WAS NOT, THAT YOU COULD NOT, UH, DO? YES.
THERE WERE THREE VIDEOS THAT I ALSO SENT AND, UM, THE AIDE TOLD ME THAT HE COULD NOT UPLOAD THEM.
I ASKED HIM IF HE HAD DOWNLOADED THE ITEM FIRST.
'CAUSE THAT'S HOW I WAS ABLE TO OPEN IT.
YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I KNOW WE COULDN'T GET THE VIDEO, BUT CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THIS WAS, WHAT THESE VEHICLE WERE? SURE, SURE.
UM, ACTUALLY I HAVE THEM IN MY PHONE.
UH, ONE OF THEM WAS ACTUALLY, UH, A CEMENT TRUCK DUMPING CEMENT ONTO THE GROUND.
AND IT WAS A PAN PANNING OF THE AREA WITH, UH, ALL THE JUNK GARBAGE VEHICLES THAT WERE THERE.
THERE BIG TALL MOUNDS OF GRAVEL THAT HAD BEEN STACKED.
AND ALL OF THIS WAS ON THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THOSE VIDEOS, VIDEOS WERE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO PRESENT.
THANK YOU UHHUH
PLEASE CAN I OFFER REBUTTAL? CHAIRMAN, I'M GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE SOMETHING'S ADDRESSED RIGHT THERE.
SHE'S OFFERING FEEDBACK ON AN ITEM THAT'S NUMBER THREE.
SO LET'S NOT BRING IN ITEMS THAT ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
SHE CAN HAVE VIDEO ALL THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
SHE CAN SHOW ALL OF IT DUE RESPECT
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TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.IT DOES NOT APPLY TO THIS ITEM.
THIS ITEM IS TO CHANGE AN R SIX TO C TWO NA WITH ANY DEED RESTRICTIONS, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY NEGOTIATED.
BY THE WAY, TWO MEETINGS NEGOTIATED A LIST OF DEED RESTRICTIONS WE ANTICIPATED, AS DID THE COUNCIL OFFICE, THAT THIS WOULD BE NOT AN APPROVAL, BUT JUST NO OPPOSITION.
THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN HOPE FOR WITH THIS KIND OF DIFFICULT CASE.
AND IT TURNS OUT NOW THAT OF COURSE THERE IS OPPOSITION.
BUT COMMISSIONER, WE CAN'T TAKE THE FEEDBACK ON ITEM THREE.
THE PHOTOGRAPHS DO NOT APPLY TO ITEM TWO, WHAT WAS SHOWN ON THE PHOTOGRAPHS OR ITEM TWO, DO NOT APPLY.
AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE BACK CASE WE'LL DISCUSS FOR NUMBER THREE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I CAN ADD? GREAT.
UH, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP FOR MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR THE QUESTIONS.
I THOUGHT I, I THOUGHT I HAD A COUPLE MORE SECONDS TO FINISH MY BITE.
UM, WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, UH, COMMISSIONER KELLY, UH, HAS JOINED THE MEETING.
YEAH, SOME HERE, UH, I I WAS BACK IN ABOUT TWO MINUTES.
WE'LL MARK IT FOR COMMISSIONER KELLY REJOINING THE MEETING.
ALRIGHT, UH, QUESTION SIR, ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, OF COURSE.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS? YES.
COMMISSIONER ELL WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE.
QUESTION FOR STAFF, UH, JUST IN THE FACTORS THAT THE COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER, UM, RELATED TO THE APPROVAL OF ITEM TWO, CAN THE COMMISSION CONSIDER HISTORY OF THE APPLICANT EVEN IF IT'S RELATED TO THE APPLICANT'S OPERATION ON OTHER PARCELS? I I RECALL THERE WAS A PROJECT WE HAD A MONTH OR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHERE THE COMMISSION WAS CONSIDERING A APPLICANT AS AN OPERATOR ON OTHER PROPERTIES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE, UH, ANOTHER PROJECT IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY.
SO I'M, I'M JUST WONDERING IS THAT, IS, IS THAT THE CASE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT? AND I, I APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONER, UM, IF I MISS THE BEGINNING PART OF YOUR QUESTION, SO IF I DON'T ANSWER THIS CORRECTLY, PLEASE SAY IT AGAIN AND, AND I'LL ANSWER IT.
BUT WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND THAT YOU LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES BASED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
NOW OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROPERTY AND YOUR HISTORY OF THE CITY, ET CETERA, BUT WE ALWAYS TRY AND RECOMMEND THAT YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, WHAT'S ON THE RECORD IN FRONT OF YOU, WHAT'S BEEN SIT STATED AT THE MEETING TO USE THAT TO MAKE YOUR DECISION BASED ONLY IN USE PRINCIPLES.
SO WE SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERING THE PROJECT APPLICANT AT ALL.
LIKE IF THEY HAD A HYPOTHETICALLY, SO, SO I UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLE.
IF THERE WAS A PROJECT APPLICANT HYPOTHETICALLY THAT CAME BEFORE US AND THEY HAD A TERRIBLE HISTORY WITH THE CITY CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, VIOLATIONS, WE WOULDN'T, WE SHOULDN'T CONSIDER ANY OF THAT HISTORY RELATED TO THE APPLICANT.
WE SHOULD ONLY CONSIDER THE SPECIFIC PROJECT ON THE SPECIFIC PARCEL.
I, SO I WOULD, I WOULD ADVISE THAT THE, THAT WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU IS NOT A PERSON, IT IS A LAND USE CASE.
AND SO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS BASED ON LAND USE PRINCIPLES.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER THAT MAYBE NOT A QUESTION, BUT AN THERE'S BEEN ALL THIS BACKGROUND NOISE.
CAN YOU MAKE IT A QUESTION AND IT SAYS IN HERE, FREEZE IT AS A QUESTION.
IT SAYS IN HERE THAT THERE IS NO ACTIVE CODE OR PERMITTING VIOLATIONS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
IS THAT THE CASE? I, YEAH, THERE.
THERE'S NO ACTIVE, THERE'S NO ACTIVE CODE VIOLATIONS.
AND THAT'S, I'M SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT NUMBER TWO HERE.
COMMISSIONER CALUM QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER S SIPES QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AROUND THE HORN ONCE MORE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
COMMISSIONER HUEY QUESTIONS? UH, NO.
RIGHT QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER CHASE, COULD STAFF INFORM EVERYBODY WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE C TWO AND A AS? EXAMPLES? EXAMPLES PERMITTED USE
C TWO GENERALLY SUPPORTS MEDIUM INTENSITY COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES RESTAURANTS, UH, RETAIL SHOPS.
THE NA DESIGNATION WOULD PROHIBIT THE SALE OF
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ALCOHOL FOR BOTH ON AND OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION.SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. UM, FLO SPEZ, YOU COME UP PLEASE.
GOOD EXERCISE,
ARE ANY OF THOSE PERMITTED USES THAT YOU JUST HEARD A FEW EXAMPLES OF? WOULD YOU BE IN OPPOSITION TO THOSE, UM, COMING IN CLOSE TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE GROUP WITHOUT CONSULTING THEM AT THIS POINT.
UM, WHEN WE MET WITH THE ATTORNEY AND WE WENT OVER OPTIONS AND I'M SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO C TWO OPTIONS VERSUS C ONE, WE DID NOT AGREE TO ANYTHING WE JUST WENT OVER, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE? SO THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT, UM, BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT WE HAD AGREED TO DO THIS.
NO, WE JUST SAID THAT WE WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS SO WE WOULD HAVE MORE INPUT AS TO WHAT IS GOING TO BE GO THERE.
THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS 50 FEET FROM AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND NEXT TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS A SCHOOL ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S A CHURCH.
SO YES, THERE'S STUFF THAT'S THERE THAT'S BEEN GRANDFATHERED AND YOU, WE CAN'T DO TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S OKAY.
BUT IN GOOD FAITH WE SAID, OKAY, C TWO FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING GOOD BASED ON WHAT THEY TOLD US IN THE, THE, UH, MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT OR, AND IT NEVER HAPPENED.
SO EVEN IF WE AGREED TO SAY YES, WE'RE IN FAVOR OF C TWO, I CAN'T, AYE, AND I SAY NOT, WE CAN'T COMFORTABLY SAY THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED WITH THE PROPERTIES ON THE WEST SIDE.
AND ALL OF THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO RIVER CITY READY MIX.
I DON'T THINK I'VE MENTIONED THE LOPEZ'S NAME EXCEPT MAYBE ONCE.
W WITH WITH THE FACT THAT I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE GROUP WITHOUT GOING BACK TO TALK TO THEM, BUT YES.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER CHASE, ANYTHING FURTHER? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER KELLY? NO.
LOOKING LEFT QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S THAT? UM, FOR STAFF, IT LOOKS LIKE BEHIND THIS PROPERTY IS A STRIP THAT ZONED C3 R AND THEN ALL THE STUFF IN FRONT OF IT IS DONE C3 R.
REMIND ME AGAIN WHAT THE R MEANS AND WHY IS THAT STRIP RUNNING BETWEEN THIS AND THE APARTMENTS? UH, THE R DESIGNATION IS RESTRICTIVE ALCOHOL SALES.
SO IT ALLOWS SALES OF ALCOHOL FOR OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
SO A GAS STATION BUT NOT A RESTAURANT OR A BAR.
IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT OWNER OWNERSHIP OF LAND.
AND THAT WAS THE SONY THAT WAS ASSIGNED AT THE TIME.
ALRIGHT, FURTHER QUESTIONS LEFT.
ALL RIGHT, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS EITHER.
SO AT THIS POINT, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
WE WILL GO TO, UH, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION TO COMMISSIONER HUEY.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU TO, UM, MS. UH, PEREZ AND HER TEAM FOR WORKING ON THIS AND FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME DOWN TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND THEIR PRESENTATION.
SO THIS, UH, THESE PROPERTIES, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAS BEEN, UM, UNDER DISCUSSIONS FOR QUITE A WHILE AND, UM, AND PRIOR TO THAT, THIS ZONING COMMISSION HAD VOTED TO APPROVE C TWO ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM, UH, ON EASTER LANE.
SO, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE LOTS OF HISTORY AND, UH, FOR GOOD OR BAD, RIGHT? AND, BUT FOR OUR ZONING COMMISSION, FOR THIS BODY TO DO ITS WORK, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME DEGREE OF AMNESIA AND FOCUS ONLY ON LAND USE.
SO ONLY BASED ON THAT FOCUS AND THAT FOCUS ALONE
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AND NOTHING ELSE, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE.ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
A DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER ON MY LEFT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA START WITH S SIPES THIS TIME.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER KELLEN, COMMISSIONER WITS IT.
UH, I SEE IT, IT'S A LOGICAL EXTENSION OF WHAT'S THERE SURROUNDING IT.
UH, OUTSIDE OF ALL THE NOISE AND THERE ALL THE MESS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THIS.
UH, SO I THINK THIS CASE IS REALLY, UH, EDUCATIVE, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION IN, IN THINKING THROUGH WHAT OUR, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
THERE'S A LOT OF NOISE IN THE CASE SO TO, YOU KNOW, BE REMINDED ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO, RIGHT? WE'RE REVIEWING WHAT USES SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE LAND UNDER THE ZONING LAW IS, UH, I THINK IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO, TO HAVE THAT REMINDER.
UM, THAT BEING, UH, SAID, I I WAS A LITTLE, UH, CONCERNED WITH SOME OF THE TONE FROM THE PROJECT APPLICANT ABOUT, UM, MOVING, YOU KNOW, RUSHING IT FORWARD AND, AND MAKING IT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNCIL AND NOT TRYING TO GET IN THE WAY OF THE COUNCIL.
I THINK THAT'S A GRAVE MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE ROLE OF THE ZONING COMMISSION AS A, UH, STATUTORY COMMISSION.
IT'S OUR JOB TO AIR EVERYTHING, TO DISCUSS EVERYTHING, BRING UP ALL THE ISSUES SO THAT THE COUNCIL'S IN THE BEST POSITION POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO MAKE A DECISION.
IT'S NEVER OUR RESPONSIBILITY IF THE COMMISSION VOTES NO.
YES, IN BOTH CASES, THOSE ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL.
UM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT REALLY, AT LEAST FOR ME, REALLY CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD, UH, THAT TONE TO START WITH.
'CAUSE I SAID, WHAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR ENTIRE JOB.
WHY WOULD YOU, WHY WOULD YOU SHAVE THAT? UM, THAT BEING SAID, HELPFUL I THINK TO REMIND US THAT OUR JOB IS NOT TO FOCUS ON THE BACKGROUND, ON THE HISTORY OF ALL THE NOISE.
TO FOCUS ON WHAT USES ARE, UH, PROPER FOR, FOR THIS AREA, I THINK IS HELPFUL.
UM, WITH THAT, HOWEVER, I, I AM GOING TO RESPECTFULLY, UM, DISAGREE, UH, WITH THE, THE, UH, MOTION TO RECOMMEND, UH, BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
I THINK ON THE BASIS OF GENERAL LAND USE PRINCIPLES, UM, COMMERCIAL USES ARE GENERALLY GREAT ALONG THOROUGH FARES WHERE YOU HAVE CIRCULATION DEAD END STREETS IN THE MIDDLE OF AREAS THAT HAVE LARGE RESIDENTIAL BLOCKS, I THINK ARE INHERENTLY MORE PROBLEMATIC.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE BASIS OF THE EXISTING ZONING OF R FOUR.
UH, THE VISION WAS THAT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE COMMERCIAL USES IN, YOU KNOW, THE MIDDLE OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
IT KIND OF TURNS INTO LIKE A, A RESIDENTIAL DONUT, UH, WHERE THE CENTER IS COMMERCIAL, I THINK THE USES CLOSER, UH, TO COLLIBRA, UM, MAKES SENSE ON THE PRINCIPLE THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, FEEDING OFF OF COLLIBRA.
BUT THE FURTHER DOWN YOU GO DOWN, UM, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE STREET? EASTLAND EASTLAND, THE FURTHER YOU GO DOWNLAND, I THINK THE LESS IT MAKES SENSE.
UM, SO I I WILL BE, UH, OPPOSING THE MOTION ON THOSE GROUNDS.
JUST THAT LAND USE PRINCIPLES WOULD, UH, SUPPORT IT BEING RESIDENTIAL AND NOT COMMERCIAL.
UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
AGAIN, I, I THINK I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HUEY AND COMMISSIONER TSET AS SPEAKERS THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE AND THAT IS WHAT WE LOOK AT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, MANY OF OUR CASES, UH, CAN EXCITE GREAT EMOTION, UM, IN THIS CASE, HOWEVER, I I I THINK THERE'S A C3 CD USE JUST NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND SO RESIDENTIAL USE IS INAPPROPRIATE THERE.
UM, AND THAT'S A MUCH MORE INTENSIVE USE THAN WOULD BE NORMALLY ALLOWED.
AND SO I THINK C TWO IS APPROPRIATE HERE.
AND AS A RESULT I WILL BE, UM, SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
I WANT TO STRESS TO EVERYONE WE DID OUR JOB JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TIME WE DO IT.
YOU MIGHT HATE IT, YOU MIGHT LOVE IT, YOU MIGHT NOT CARE.
UH, BUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
AND, AND WE DID IT TODAY ON THIS ITEM.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER TWO AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
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YES.GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, COMMISSION.
UH, FOREST WILSON, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
I, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED IN THE 5,000 BLOCK OF EASTERLING ROAD GOING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
UH, THERE WERE 22 NOTICES SENT.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED THE MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA AS A PROPERTY DIRECTLY BUTS AN ESTABL ESTABLISHED SHINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST.
THE PROPOSED C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS, IT, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPERTY'S FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND PROVIDES A LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL TRANSITION BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL USES AND MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THE AREA.
COMMERCIAL ZONING OF C TWO EXISTS TO THE SOUTH, AND C ONE SERVES AS A COMPATIBLE BUFFER THAT ALLOWS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING USES WHILE LIMITING POTENTIAL IMPACTS SUCH AS TRAFFIC, NOISE AND SCALE ON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE AS THE CASE MAY BE 10 MINUTES OF THE EXACT SAME THING I WE'RE GONNA PRE DIFFERENT NO, I'M JUST GONNA SHORTEN THIS UP.
UH, AND THEN FOR THERE'S SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
I, I WOULD PROBABLY DEFER TO SAVING YOU THE, THE HORROR OF HAVING TO LIVE THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION ALL OVER AGAIN.
WHAT I WILL TELL YOU AND JUST KIND OF REITERATE HERE, THE COURT ORDER STANDS AS IT IS.
UH, WE CANNOT HOLD THE LOPEZ'S OR RIVER CITY READY MIX ACCOUNTABLE TO SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIT OR MISS.
SO WHATEVER WE MAY FEEL ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO MEET THE CLEANUP DATE THAT'S ON HIM, IF HE DOES NOT MEET IT, THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE GRAVE UH, CONTEMPT.
AND I'M SURE THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT NOT HITTING THIS DATE CAN, WILL CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. SO WHAT WE'RE TR WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO HERE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY, UH, IF IT REMAINS R SIX, IT'S PRETTY MUCH NOT MUCH IS GONNA HAPPEN BACK IN THIS CORNER.
SO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED IS THAT ENTRYWAY INTO IT.
THERE'S A CREEKWAY THAT RUNS ACROSS IT.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS CREEKWAY WAS WHERE THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF CLEANUP HAS BEEN OCCURRING AND IT HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT LEVEL OF CLEANUP.
UM, I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 75% TO 80% DONE.
HE'S GOT, HE'S GOT SOME HEAVY LIFTING TO DO BACK THERE, BUT ALL THE MOUNDS AND DIRTS AND PILES, HE'S GOT 15 PLUS EMPLOYEES OUT THERE, HEAVY LOADERS.
HE'S DOING ALL HE CAN TO CLEAN THAT OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
BUT THE, THE, THE CLEANLINESS PART OF IT, THE REMEDIATION HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT.
UH, AND OUR HOPE IS OF COURSE THAT, UH, THE RESOURCES WILL GET HIM THERE.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THE ZONING CHANGE IS AGAIN, TO MAKE THE PROP, THE, THE PROPERTY MORE MARKETABLE.
UM, DEED RESTRICTIONS CAN APPLY.
WE HAVE DISCUSSED THOSE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND WE FELT LIKE THERE WAS AGREEMENT ON IT.
WE HIGHLIGHTED LITERALLY ALL THE USES AND WENT DOWN LINE BY LINE AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT CANDACE WE CAN DO.
SO WE'RE OPEN TO THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE OPEN TO IT.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LAND USE THAT'S PERMITTED, WHEN YOU REVIEW WHAT THE STAFF HAS ALREADY APPROVED AND RECOMMENDED, THIS IS COMPLIANT WITH WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO BE.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S JUST A DECADE OF, OF ANGER AND DISAPPOINTMENT AND AND MISSED DEADLINES.
SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU AGAIN WHAT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED.
WE HAVE TO PUT THE PERSONAL ASIDE.
UM, IT IS A, A HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY AND TIME.
THE REASON IT'S NOT A RUSHING THIS THROUGH, IT'S JUST SO I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR ON THIS AND YOU BRING UP A GREAT POINT COMMISSIONER, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I CLARIFY.
WHAT IT IS IS I DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE HIM.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM PENALIZED IF HE'S ABLE TO MEET THE DEADLINE.
IF HE'S NOT GONNA MEET THE DEADLINE, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE THE FINAL DENIAL.
SO I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE IT RESPECT.
TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK A A HUNDRED PERCENT THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER'S PERSPECTIVE IS ULTIMATELY HE DOES HAVE THAT FINAL AUTHORITY.
SO THERE'S A MA A MAJOR BACKSTOP HERE.
I JUST WOULDN'T WANNA SEE THE BUSINESS AND THE FAMILY PENALIZED ON THE OFF CHANCE.
THEY MAY NOT MAKE IT OR ON THE EXTREME CHANCE THEY WILL MAKE IT.
SO BY NOT RUSHING IT THROUGH, BUT BY SAYING, OKAY, STAFF APPROVES IT, MEETS THE PLAN, THEY'RE WORKING HARD.
THERE'S BEEN PROGRESS NOT IN DISPUTE.
THE COURT ORDER SAYS WE'RE GONNA EXPEDITE ZONING AND THEY CAN NEED TO BE OFF THAT PROPERTY AND OUT THERE ON THE 31ST.
IF THEY DON'T MEET IT, THEN THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S TEAM WILL TAKE THE NEXT STEPS AFTER THAT.
SO I DON'T WANNA RUSH IT AND, AND DEMEAN YOUR INPUT OR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS LET'S NOT NOT HOLD THEM AGAINST THAT DEADLINE.
THEY HAVE A, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A TIMING THING RIGHT
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NOW WE'RE HERE.I'M ASKING THAT WE GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE DEADLINE, LET THE COURT SYSTEM TAKE PLACE AND HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE SHOULD HE NOT MAKE IT.
AND THAT CASE WILL BE THE COUNCILMAN.
SO I'M ASKING, OBVIOUSLY ASKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT SO THAT WE CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE DEADLINES ALREADY NEGOTIATED THE DEADLINES THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE DISTRICT COURT CASE AND WE GOTTA MEET 'EM OR ELSE THERE'S, THERE WILL BE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND WRAP UP NOW AND JUST HIT REBUTTAL WHEN THE TIME COMES.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. BROCK HOUSE.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, ANY VOICEMAILS? NO VOICEMAILS.
PERES, ARE YOU GETTING TIME THIS TIME AS WELL? NO.
WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR YOU AGAIN, BUT THANK YOU.
OKAY, WELL I'D LIKE TO KIND OF GO BACK A LITTLE BIT AND REMIND YOU GUYS SINCE IF YOU HAVEN'T, UM, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE SETTLEMENT THAT STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT.
I MEAN THE, THE, UH, THE ZONING OR TO RECOMMEND I SAY APPROVE, RECOMMEND.
THAT WAS PART OF THE SETTLEMENT.
YOU GUYS WERE NOT A PART OF THE SETTLEMENT.
YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO, WHAT YOU FEEL IS RIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I GUESS IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT YES, IT'S NOT PERSONAL, BUT IT'S WHAT'S RIGHT.
BASED ON LET'S SAY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT'S, THERE'S NO LOT THAT'S LESS THAN HALF ACRE.
SOME OF THEM ARE TWO, THREE ACRES.
SO PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE A C ONE IN THERE WOULD BE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ATTORNEY EARL.
UM, WE WENT OVER A LIST OF ITEMS THAT WERE C ONE.
WE SAID WE WANTED TO MEET WITH THE NEW OWNERS.
UH, ZONING IS ONLY IMPORTANT TO RIVER CITY READY MIX BECAUSE IT INCREASES THE SALE PRICE.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE LAND.
WHAT, WHAT MIGHT BE DONE TO THE LAND LATER? WHAT IF THE PROPERTY DOESN'T SELL AND RIVER CITY COMES BACK NOT AS RIVER CITY OF COURSE, BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED BUT AS ANOTHER COMPANY WE WOULD STILL HAVE THOSE BAD NEIGHBORS AND OKAY, IT'S NOT NICE TO SAY BAD PEOPLE, BUT IT, IT'S THE REALITY.
WE ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THEM AND WE'VE DEALT WITH THEM FOR A LONG, LONG TIME WITH NO IMPROVEMENTS.
HOW MUCH TIME TO HAVE? THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. FLOES PEREZ.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? WILLIAM MCDONALD.
ALRIGHT, MR. MCDONALD AND MR. MCDONALD, IF YOU WOULD, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
WILLIAM BILL MCDONOUGH 85 42 TIMBER PLACE, SAN ANTONIO 7 8 2 5 OH.
I'LL ADDRESS THE, SOME SPECIFICS FOR YOU.
THE CROSSING ON COLEBRA CREEK, YOU KNOW IT FLOODS, THEY POURED CONCRETE ACROSS IT TO GET THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT ACROSS IT.
WHEN YOU GO UP TO THE PROPERTY AND ELEVATE IT'S DIRT, IT'S RUTTED, IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD.
ONLY ONE VEHICLE AT A TIME CAN CROSS THAT.
SO WE'RE TALKING C ONE WHO IS GOING TO MAKE THE REPAIRS AND RISK A BUSINESS THAT YOU CANNOT SOMETIMES ACCESS.
SECONDLY, ALL THE ACRES, THE 42 ACRES ADJOINING ARE ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL BUT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
NOT THAT FOR SURE IN THAT AREA, BUT IT WAS A WASTE SITE AND THAT WASTE SITE DECISION WAS IF IT WAS EVER DEVELOPED, GAS MONITORS WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT ON ALL THE PROPERTIES TO DEAL WITH THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF A PRIOR WASTE SITE.
I DON'T KNOW OF A C ONE COMPANY THAT CAN AFFORD THAT CHALLENGE, THAT EXPENSE AND THAT HAZARD IN THE FUTURE.
I DON'T KNOW A C TWO THAT COULD DO THAT NOR AFFORD THAT.
SO, AND WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF AND WE'LL POINT OUT TO MR. BROCK HOUSE, HOWEVER, IT IS NOT 75% CLEANED UP.
I TOOK VIDEO THAT YOU CAN'T SEE.
I WILL CONCEDE ABOUT EIGHT BROKEN DOWN CEMENT TRUCKS.
MIXERS ARE REMOVED, ONE IS STILL THERE, BADLY DAMAGED.
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MAJOR EQUIPMENTS ON THAT PROPERTY.STILL, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO TRY TO CHANGE THIS PROPERTY AND CREATE THE WHISK THAT A NEW OWNER WOULD HAVE.
MR. ROPER, COME ON UP AND IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.
CARL ROPER THE ADDRESS IS 1906 ELWORTHY STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO TRANSFER THE MINUTES OVER TO MR. BROCK HOUSE.
NOPE, UH, IT'S TOO LATE FOR THAT.
AND HE'S ALREADY THE APPLICANT.
SO ARE YOU IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED
NEXT THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON DECIDING.
MR. BROCK HOUSE, YOU GET THREE MINUTES.
THE PICTURES THAT WERE SHOWN, THE PICTURES THAT WERE SHOWN ARE CREEKWAY.
SO SOME OF THEM AT THE BEGINNING, WE BE VERY CLEAR HERE.
THAT IS NOT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
THAT'S CREEKWAY ILLEGAL DUMPING, OF WHICH THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE CASES.
UH, SO SEVERAL OF THOSE PHOTOS INITIALLY LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS MATTRESSES IN TRASH AND ALL THAT.
THAT'S NOT THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
UH, SO WE HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, YES, THE PICTURES OF THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT, ALL THE PILES AND MOUNDS OF DIRT, THAT, THAT IS, THOSE ARE ACCURATE PHOTOS.
BUT I WAS, I'VE BEEN MONITORING THIS MYSELF.
I'VE BEEN HELPING 'EM FOR 60 DAYS.
THE THE CLEANUP HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT.
AND BY THE WAY, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO HOLD THEM TO, WELL WHAT IF OR IF THEY DON'T DO THIS OR IF THEY DON'T MEET THE DEADLINE, THE COURT AND THE CITY ATTORNEYS AND NEGOTIATED MEDIA SETUP, IT'S ALREADY SET.
IF THEY DON'T GET THERE, THAT'S ON THEM, RIGHT? SO WE CAN'T NUMBER ONE, DO THIS WHAT IF SCENARIO AND THEN WELL WHO, WHO'S GONNA COME BUY IT? AND, AND WELL THEY WANNA MAKE, WELL, CLEARLY THE ZONING HELPS THE PROFITABILITY.
I MEAN THAT'S WHAT WHAT YOU WANT.
YOU WANT MORE PEOPLE ABLE TO COME AND PURCHASE.
YOU WANT MORE LEADS, RIGHT? SO THAT YOU CAN DO THIS.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT AS WELL.
'CAUSE THEY SEE IT MEETS THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
SEE, THERE'S, WE ALL KNOW THESE STEPS ARE BUILT OVER TIME.
COMMUNITY PLANS, ZONING, RIGHT? RESIDENTIAL USE, ALL THESE THINGS ARE BUILT.
SO WHEN IT MEETS THE PLAN, THE CITY STAFF'S NATURAL NATURAL REACTION IS THIS IS WHAT WE WANT HERE.
NOW CLEARLY WE GOT A LOT OF PERSONAL ISSUES.
I WOULD TELL YOU THAT, THAT, AND I WISH WE COULD GET THOSE PHOTOS UP BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY CLOUDING JUDGMENT OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE OR DOESN'T LOOK LIKE BECAUSE IT'S NOT APPLICANT PROPERTY.
LET'S JUST RECAP A COUPLE OF FINAL KEY POINTS HERE.
NUMBER ONE IS THE COURT ORDER IS IN PLACE FOR JANUARY 31ST.
THAT, THAT, THAT IS, THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
AND IF HE DOESN'T MEET IT, THE ACCOUNTABILITY FACTORS ARE, ARE MEANINGFUL AND THE AMOUNT, THE FINES AND FEES, EVERYTHING'S GONNA COME BACK ON ON THIS APPLICANT.
WE CANNOT HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE FOR FAILURE WHEN HE HAS NOT FAILED.
AND WE LOOK AT THIS AS A PIECE OF PROPERTY, AS A CASE, AS, AS THIS NOT A PERSON.
THEN WE HAVE TO SAY COURT ORDER IN PLACE.
IT'S REQUIRING EXPEDITED ZONING MEETS THE PLAN.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT FALLS OUT OF THIS IS THEY'RE A BAD ACTOR.
WELL, WHAT IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN? WELL, WHAT IF THOSE ARE ALL FAIR CONCERNS THAT CAN BE DEALT WITH IF HE MEETS OR DOES NOT MEET THE 31ST DEADLINE AND THEN THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL TAKE IT FROM THERE WITH THE CITY STAFF AND IT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA ASK, YOU KNOW, CAN WE LOOK? NUMBER ONE IS WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO TAKE A DENIAL EITHER.
I MEAN, WE'RE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO WORK IF NECESSARY, BUT I DON'T SEE, I, I THINK THAT CONVERSATION REALLY IS NOW IS WE GOTTA TAKE IT TO THE COUNCILMAN AND SEE WHERE HE IS AT.
SO WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO LAND USE RESTRICTIONS AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO, BUT IT'S TIME NOW.
WE HELP THESE, THIS FAMILY, THIS COMMUNITY, GET PAST THIS.
AS DIFFICULT AS IT IS SOMETIMES THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST ISN'T RIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
NOW CLOSED, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE, SO COMMISSIONER HUEY TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR IS REALLY FOR STAFF.
UH, FOR C ONE IS, UH, ARE DATA CENTERS ALLOWED TO BE BUILT ON C ONE PROPERTY? I'M SORRY, WHAT AGAIN? ARE DATA CENTERS ALLOWED? UH, WE'RE DOUBLE CHECKING, BUT I BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS NO.
THEN THIS HELP REFRESH MY MEMORY.
WHAT IS ALLOWED ON C ONE? JUST EXAMPLES PLEASE.
SO JUST TO RELATE, UM, THE CLOSEST USE THAT WE ARE USING RIGHT NOW FOR DATA CENTER IS AN OFFICE DATA PROCESSING AND MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN A C ONE.
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IT DOESN'T EVEN ALLOW AN S SO AGAIN, IT WOULD NEED A REZONING TO ADD LIKE A CD OR GO UP TO A C TWO IF IT WAS GOING TO BE PERMITTED.NOW AS FOR C ONE USES, AGAIN, IT ALLOWS A LOT OF THOSE RETAIL OR LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES, BUT IT BASICALLY PUTS A LIMIT ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE ON THE PROPERTY.
I THINK A MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET FOR A BUILDING.
YEAH, AS I'M LOOKING, YOU KNOW, AS I WAS LOOKING AT THIS CASE HERE, UM, I AM UNCOMFORTABLE PUTTING A C ONE THAT ABUTS THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, WHAT COULD GO IN THERE.
SO YOUR, YOUR EXAMPLES ARE FANTASTIC.
SO, AND I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT NOR THE, UH, NEIGHBORS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HUI QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA? YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK FOR, UH, STAFF, UH, CURRENTLY IT'S, IT'S ZONE R FOUR.
AND THEN, UM, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
AND, AND REAL QUICK, CAN I, UH, BRING ON MS. FLORES, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED WHY YOU'RE COMING UP.
WE HAD MENTIONED BEFORE THAT I, I KNOW YOU, YOU CAN'T SPEAK ON THE BEHALF OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND OTHERS, BUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT YOU AS THIS IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AS WE CALL ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE WHERE I'M FROM, THIS IS YOUR HOOD.
SO WOULD YOU WANT, WHAT'S THAT? OKAY.
UH, WOULD, WOULD YOU WANT SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORS THAT ON THAT LIST OF, OF SEA ONE OR WHAT DO YOU WANT? WHAT DO I WANT PERSONALLY? YES.
I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH RIVER CITY.
THEY HAVE BEEN DESPICABLE, I GUESS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THERE? ZONING? YES MA'AM.
I THINK THAT EACH CASE WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT INDIVIDUALLY IF IT WERE A TATTOO PARLOR.
SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR.
IS THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER.
YOU ACTUALLY, UH, GO TO MY NEXT POINT HERE.
UM, I, I REALLY WISH, UM, TO ME IT SEEMS A LITTLE BACKWARDS, RIGHT? I THINK, I THINK WHOEVER BUYS THIS PROPERTY SHOULD COME TO US TO STATE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, OBVIOUSLY, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE, UH, EVERYTHING'S LAND USE, RIGHT? SO WHATEVER ZONING WE CHANGE IT TO, IT'S GONNA STAY WITH THE, WITH, WITH THE PROPERTY GOING FORWARD.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO GET THE MOST MONEY FOR OUR, UM, WE WANNA SELL THIS PROPERTY WHEN WE WANNA GET HAVE, YOU KNOW, REZONE IT SO WE CAN GET THE MOST OF IT.
BUT I, I REALLY DO FEEL IT SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
UH, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UM, I THANK YOU CHAIR.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT? ALRIGHT.
COMMISSIONER KELLY? NO SIR, NO QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GO THIS WAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER DUBBO, UH, TO STAFF.
COULD WE PULL UP GOOGLE MAPS? UM, WITH THE, UH, THE SATELLITE IMAGERY, THE, ALTHOUGH THE, UM, I DUNNO WHAT THAT IS.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF IT.
AND I THINK THE SATELLITE'S USEFUL 'CAUSE WE CAN SEE THE LAND AS IT APPEARS IN ACTUALITY.
WHILE WE'RE, UM, WHILE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THAT SET UP, MAYBE I CAN ASK THE OTHER STAFF.
UM, EAST STERLING WAY, UH, IS THE ONLY MEANS OF, UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM EASTERLING WAY ON COLLIBRA ROAD, ARE THERE, ARE THERE OTHER WAYS TO ACCESS EASTERLING ROAD? IT LOOKS LIKE EASTERLING IS THE ONLY, UM, RIGHT OF WAY THAT THE, THIS PROPERTY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO.
SO, I'M SORRY, COLLIBRA IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET ONTO EAST STERLING? YES, CORRECT.
YEAH, I SAW THAT OFF OF, UH, IMPALA, UM, STREET THAT THERE'S LIKE A, A GATE, UH, WITH, I THINK IT SAID WESTOVER, WESTOVER HILLS, SOME KIND OF IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A ROAD, BUT IT'S GATED.
I WAS WONDERING WHAT, WHAT THAT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE, UH, PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
WESTOVER VALLEY RELIEF CHANNEL, THERE'S A GATE WITH A FENCE.
SO THERE ARE PAPER STREETS BETWEEN IMPALA AND COLLIBRA.
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I'M TRYING TO PULL THIS UP.SO WHILE WE'RE YEAH, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING IT UP, IT'S, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S USEFUL TO GO OVER THE GEOGRAPHY AND HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
I SEE WE HAVE THE GOOGLE MAPS UP, SO WHILE STAFF IS LOOKING FOR THE, UH, STATUS OF THE EASTERLING IMPALA GATE, UM, IF WE COULD ZOOM IN ON, UH, OR MAYBE SOME STAFF COULD HELP US WITH IDENTIFYING WHAT IS THE PRO THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON ITEM THREE.
I DUNNO IF WE HAVE A LASER POINTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I GUESS WE COULD USE THE MOUSE CUBE.
OH, THE LASER POINTER IS GREAT.
SO THIS, THIS AREA, THIS AREA HERE IS FOR ITEM THREE, UM, KIND OF RIGHT, RIGHT HERE.
SO IF YOU GO FURTHER DOWN, I THINK THIS IS THAT IMPALA ROAD.
AND COULD WE ZOOM, ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST TO, I THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THAT YOU COULD, LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN ACCESS IT HERE AS WELL, BUT IS THAT A PUBLIC ROAD? NO.
AGAIN, THIS HAS NOT BEEN RESEARCHED, IT'S JUST I'M SEEING WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.
SO COULD, COULD YOU SHOW US THE, UH, YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATELY, I KNOW THERE'S NO BOUNDARY LINES HERE, BUT JUST APPROXIMATELY ON GOOGLE MAPS HERE.
MAYBE WE PULL UP A LITTLE BIT TO GO NORTH.
WHERE, WHERE'S GENERALLY THE PROPERTY WE'RE LOOKING AT? RIGHT HERE? NO, IT'S JUST THE TOP HALF OR ABOUT HERE, I GUESS THEN YEAH, PROPERTY.
SO IT BASICALLY GOES, YOU HAVE MOUNT HOOD, WHICH, SORRY, YOU HAVE THE FIRST CUL-DE-SAC.
I'M LOOKING AT THE CUL-DE-SACS TO THE, UM, WEST HERE.
THE FIRST ONE IS CROSBY MOUNT CROSBY DRIVE.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS MOUNT HOOD.
BASICALLY WHERE THAT MOUNT HOOD CUTS ALONG THE YELLOW PORTION IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE TO GET ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH THERE, THEY WOULD BE ENCROACHING ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY.
AND AND WHERE WAS THE UH, ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, I THINK REFERRED TO A A, A PRIOR WASTE DUMP.
WHERE'S THAT WASTE DUMP? WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, IF YOU COULD COME UP, OH WAIT, WE'RE STILL IN QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, AND, AND SIR, IF YOU WOULD TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS.
I REPRESENT, UH, UH, TEXAS PROJECT 28, WHICH IS THE OWNER OF THE CONTIGUOUS 37 ACRES, AS WELL AS THE 1.6 ACRE PIECE THAT USED TO BE A ROAD.
DO YOU REMEMBER THE QUESTION? 'CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T,
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET THE QUESTION.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE THE FORMER, I'M SORRY.
FORMER WASTE STUMP IS WHAT I HEARD.
THIS PROPERTY WAS QUARRIED STARTING IN THE LATE SEVENTIES THROUGH THE NINETIES.
THEY TOOK CALICHE AND ROCK AND STUFF OUT OF THERE.
UH, THERE WAS A MAN NAMED POTTER WHO HAD DONE 40 OR 50 OF THESE ALL OVER TEXAS AND HE DID THEM.
UM, AND HE THEN STARTED FILLING IT WITH CLEAN CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS.
AND A LOT OF THE WASTE FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF HIGHWAY 1 51 WAS PUT IN THERE, WHICH LARGELY FILLED IT UP.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PROCESS WAS LOVE CANAL.
AND THEN THE FEDERAL LEGISLATION FOR SUPERFUND, WHICH IS KNOWN AS RCLA, TEXAS, THEN BASICALLY REPLICATED AS MOST STATES DID THAT LAW.
AND SO WHAT IT DID WAS IT, UH, REQUIRED A PERMIT TO DO ANY KIND OF FILL IN A CONSTRUCTION AREA LIKE THAT, OR IN THIS CASE A QUARRY AND POTTER.
THIS BEING HIS 45TH, DID IT THE WAY HE'D ALWAYS DONE IT AND DIDN'T GET PERMITS.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NEVER A WASTE DUMP OR A LANDFILL, UM, IT'S, IT'S DEEMED A CLOSED LANDFILL UNDER THE ACTION OF THE LAW.
AND SO SUB CHAPTER T APPLIES TO IT, WHICH PUTS SOME SPECIAL, UH, CONSIDERATIONS ON IT WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S DEVELOPED.
AND AS FAR AS THAT, UH, 1.6 ACRE PIECE AT THE PART THAT DOES CONNECT TO EASTERLING, IT WAS GOING TO BE A ROAD THAT WOULD CONTINUE THROUGH AND GO ALL THE WAY AND CONNECT TO ROGERS ROAD.
BUT THAT WAS CHANGED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AND NOW IT'S JUST AN ACRE A LOT.
UM, UH, AN AFFILIATED ORGANIZATION OF MINE ACQUIRED IT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO FOR MARTY WINDER, AND THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF HIS LAND THAT WAS PART OF THAT HOA.
AND I, I THINK STEPH VERY HELPFULLY, UH, MARKED OFF THE PROPERTY ON GOOGLE MAPS HERE, SO IF WE COULD ZOOM IN ON THAT PARCEL TO, TO LOOK AT IT.
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THE SUBJECT AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, I GUESS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK, RIGHT, THERE'S A CREEK ON EASTERLY.UM, SO WE ITEM TWO, WHICH WE HAD PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED IS THE AREA NORTH OF, NORTH OF THAT.
AND THEN THIS IS THE PARCEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
COMMISSIONER ETT, I BELIEVE YOU HAD QUESTIONS.
SOME OF, SOME OF MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED BY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO THE OWNER WAS AND QUESTIONS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD ACCESS, UH, OFF OF EASTERLY LEGALLY.
UH, BUT ON THE GIS MAP AND MAYBE IT'S ON Y'ALL'S ZONING MAP, ALSO IT APPEARS THAT THE PROPERTY BELOW IT, UH, SWATH ACROSS THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THERE IS ZONE C TWO MM-HMM
THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS C TWO AND THAT APPEARS TO BE OWNED BY THE GROUP.
THAT MAN WHO JUST, UH, CAME UP HERE AND SPOKE AND NOW I THINK THEY ALSO OWN THE OTHER LAND NEXT TO IT TO THE EAST, CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, COMM UH, COMMISSIONER KELLUM? NO.
COMMISSIONER SIPES, YOU COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UM, WHAT, WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS THIS PARCEL UNDER? THIS IS PART OF THE HIGHWAY 1 51 IN LOOP 1604 AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN, WHICH IS ONE OF THE NEWER SA TOMORROW PLANS.
THAT'S, IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2022.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I DIDN'T FIND IT.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE OLD PARTS.
UM, AND WHAT, WHAT IS THIS UNDER THAT PLAN? I COULD LOOK IT UP, I KNOW, BUT IT'LL BE FASTER.
IT IS, IT IS NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE WHICH DOES SUPPORT THE C ONE BASED ZONING.
SO FOR C ONE ZONING, UM, IS UH, I KNOW A CONVENIENCE STORE IS ALLOWED IN C ONE ZONING, WOULD THE CELL OF ALCOHOL AT THAT CONVENIENCE STORE BE ALLOWED? YES, IT WOULD.
WOULD AND WE DO NOT HAVE NA OR R REGULATIONS FOR C ONE ZONING.
AND SO WHAT ABOUT, UH, A SMOKE SHOP WOULD BE ALLOWED AS LONG AS IT MET THE, UH, DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AS PER BREATH POLICY.
OKAY, SO A HOOK AND LOUNGE, STUFF LIKE THAT? CORRECT.
UM, ACTUALLY THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I HAVE STUFF FOR DISCUSSION, BUT THAT WILL WAIT.
WE ARE DOING THINGS BY PROCESS.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HUEY, UH, ONCE MORE WE'LL GO AROUND THE HORN.
ANY QUESTIONS? UH, NO THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ, IT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, YOU'RE AGAINST THE C TWO ZONING, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
WE WERE AGAINST THAT C TWO SINCE, AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF A NEWER PLAN AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING OF A NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, SOMETHING THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY PERMIT BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONING, BUT WOULD BETTER, UM, COMPLIMENT THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL ABUTTING THE PROPERTY.
THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE A PROPERTY RIGHT UNDERNEATH IT, IT'S A C TWO.
WHY WOULDN'T THIS ONE BE APPROVED FOR A C TWO OR WHY WOULDN'T STAFF BE, UH, OPPOSED TO A C TWO OR IN FAVOR OF A C TWO? I'M SORRY.
AGAIN, THE, THE AREA WAS DESIGNATED THROUGH A, UM, LAND USE PLAN IN 2022 WHERE THEY GET, UM, INFORMATION OR I'M SORRY, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS INVOLVED AND THEY WANTED SOMETHING OF A NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE THERE, WHICH WOULD ONLY PERMIT UP TO A C ONE.
NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE FOR, I, I FORGOT YOUR NAME SIR.
MR. WILKES, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED OR IN FAVOR OF UH, C ONE OR A C TWO? UH, SINCE YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT, COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA JUMP IN HERE FOR A SECOND.
STAFF, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE PLAN? SO IS THERE A PLAN AMENDMENT WITH THIS? NO, THERE IS NO PLAN AMENDMENT NECESSARILY C TWO APPROPRIATE FOR THE C.
THEY WOULD NEED A PLAN AMENDMENT IF IT WAS STAYING THE C TWO NA THAT THEY ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BUT THEY AMENDED TO C ONE NO LONGER NEEDING THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
AND IF MR. WILKES IS TO RESPOND, I WOULD REQUEST THAT HE COMES UP TO THE PODIUM.
SO C TWO, UH, C TWO REQUESTS AT THIS POINT WOULD MOST LIKELY START THE PROCESS OVER AND AGAIN? THAT IS CORRECT? YES.
ALRIGHT, MR. WILKES? I'M SORRY.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE REASON THAT THE
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TIMING OF THIS IS WHAT IT IS, IS BECAUSE OF A LEGAL AGREEMENT, UM, THE, UH, RIVER CITY READY MIX AND THE LOPEZ DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE AS TO WHEN TO TIME THIS.THEY WERE REQUIRED BY THAT AGREEMENT TO FILE WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
SO YOU GOTTA DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO.
UH, I'M OPPOSED TO A C ONE BECAUSE I HOPE TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND I WANT IT TO BE A C TWO, BUT BEYOND THAT SELFISH REASON, UH,
ALRIGHT, UH, MR. COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHASE.
COMMISSIONER KELLY? NO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER WOODSON, IT SAYS NO ACTIVE CODE OR PERMITTING VIOLATIONS ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS STILL CORRECT.
THERE ARE NO, UH, ACTIVE CASES.
SOMEONE DID MENTION THE BRIDGES, UH, OR A BRIDGE OR OTHER KIND OF STRUCTURE CROSSING THE CREEK.
UM, SHOULD SOMEONE WANT TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, UH, THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ACCESS, CORRECT? FOR MAINTAINING SAFE ACCESS? YES, THEY WOULD BE.
BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WOULD OCCUR PRIOR TO OR DURING ZONING, CORRECT? VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, AT THIS POINT THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER HUEY TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
SO, UH, AGAIN, UH, MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS, UH, WITHSTANDING WITH THIS CASE ALSO IS THAT, UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT ONLY AS LAND USE AND NOTHING ELSE.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE COMMENTS FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS BEFORE I MAKE MY MOTION.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL GO TO OUR RIGHT DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.
UH, YES, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.
I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING 'CAUSE MY WIFE SAYS I MISS A LOT OF THINGS.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA BASE THIS ON LAND USE GOING FORWARD.
YOU GOT NEIGHBORS, YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT WHO LIVE THERE AND YOU GOT A SEEMS TO BE A COMPANY WHO'S GONNA BE LEAVING, UM, WHO CARES EVERY ABOUT OR GOOD, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE.
AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GONNA BE THERE GOING FORWARD.
VERY GOOD COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT DISCUSSION? NOPE.
COMMISSIONER KELLY DISCUSSION? NO, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT.
UH, WE'RE GONNA GO, WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH COMMISSIONER SIPES.
SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GO VO WHITIT AND SIPES.
PREVIOUS COMMENTS ON ITEM TWO, THE CONCERN ABOUT A A RESIDENTIAL DONUT ARE EVEN MORE APPLICABLE HERE.
UM, SO, OH, AGAIN, I DON'T LIKE THIS MAP, DO WE? IS GOOGLE MAPS STILL UP? IF NOT, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, BUT, OH, SWEET.
SO IT SHOWS THE BLUE WAS THE, THE, UH, PROJECT NUMBER, UH, ITEM TWO AND THE RED IS ITEM THREE.
SO THE ITEM TWO FOR THE SAME REASON I, I'M, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT ITEM THREE.
THE ONLY WAY OF ACCESS IS ON COLLABO ROAD.
THE FURTHER DOWN YOU GO DOWN EASTERLING, I THINK THE LESS SUITABLE, UM, HIGHER INTENSITY USES ARE.
HOWEVER, LEARNING ABOUT THE ZONING OF C TWO AT THE VERY END OF EASTERLING
AND, YOU KNOW, ABSENT A, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL, UH, CONSIDERATION REQUEST TO DOWN ZONE SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY THAT THEY'VE INVESTED IN WITH THE EXPECTATION OF IT BEING A C TWO, UM, THERE'S NO WAY REALLY TO RESOLVE THAT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME IN THE ANALYSIS THAT C TWO IS ENTITLED TO C TWO.
UM, C ONE WOULD BE A FINE TRANSITION ALONG THOSE TWO COURTS.
UH, WHAT IS IT, MOUNT HOOD AND, WELL, THE C THE TWO COURTS THAT WE CAN ALL SEE.
I THINK C ONE WOULD BE A NICER BUFFER, UH, AGAINST THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE, THE END OF THE COURTS.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK RESIDENTIAL WOULD ACTUALLY BE SUITABLE THERE WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF A C TWO USE AT THE END OF EASTERLY.
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SUPPORT THE, THE MOTION? YEAH, NO MOTION SUPPORT.I WOULD SUPPORT A MOTION TO, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER TSET, I'M GONNA RUN WITH STAFF'S PROPOSAL.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
UM, AND I WILL EITHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSE THE MOTION DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS
UM, AND I THINK THE BETTER WAY OF ACCOMPLISHING THAT WOULD BE THROUGH A TRUE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT INCORPORATED SOME SORT OF RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
UM, I BELIEVE HAVING THIS SIZE OF, UH, TRIANGLE WITH JUST C ONE DOES DOES NOT MAKE ANY SORT OF SENSE.
UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE RELYING ON A FUTURE BUYER EITHER INVESTING SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS IN BUILDING A BRIDGE TO GO TO SMALLER SHOPS, UM, OR YOU'RE RELYING ON AN INVESTOR TO THE SOUTH, UH, CONTINUING A DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH.
UM, IT, IT, IT FOR ME, C ONE JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S MORE SUITABLE FOR SOME SORT OF FUTURE RESIDENTIAL USE.
I WAS HOPING TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER S SIPES, BUT I DON'T, I AGREE.
VE UM, I THINK C ONE'S APPROPRIATE.
ALRIGHT, BACK TO COMMISSIONER HUEY FOR ANY LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION, BUT IDEALLY JUST A MOTION
SO AGAIN, UH, I THANK MY COMMISSION FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR INPUT ON INTO THIS CASE.
AND, UH, AFTER REVIEWING ALL THE INFORMATION AND HEARING ALL THE DIFFERENT OPINIONS OF OUR, OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE APPLICANT, I'M GOING TO GO WITH THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF AND MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, THIS APPLICANT FOR C ONE.
ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
SECOND OF ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR C.
ONE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM, UH, DISCUSSION LEFT BRIEF.
MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF C ONE AS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
UM, WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND DO ITEM FOUR NEXT AND THEN WE ARE GONNA DO ITEM 18.
SO THOSE ARE, THAT'S THE ORDER OF CASES I WANNA DO.
UH, WE WILL WORK AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, FOREST WILSON AGAIN.
PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR LOCATED AT 3 0 2 AND 3 0 6 EAST OF IO STREET IS GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO IDZ ONE LIMIT INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND A BAR AND OR TAVERN WITHOUT A COVER CHARGE.
THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK AND ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 71 NOTICES SENT FOR RECEIVED IN FAVOR FOR OPPOSED.
THE LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR, TWO IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SENIOR FAMILY DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED IDZ ONE, UM, LIMITED INTENSITY INFILL ZONE WITH PERMITTED USES IN C ONE AND FOR A BAR AND TAVERN IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE PROPOSED USE ALLOWS FOR LOW INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH NEARBY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.
THE IDZ ONE ZONING FACILITATES ADAPTIVE REUSE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, SUPPORTS THE ESTABLISHED MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ALONG THIS CORRIDOR AND ALIGNS WITH EXISTING USE PATTERNS BY PERMITTING RESTAURANT AND BAR USES IN AN AREA WHERE SIMILAR ESTABLISHMENTS ARE ALREADY PRESENT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
IS THERE ANYONE BESIDES MR. GON HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
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IF YOU WOULD BRIEFLY GIVE US A SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT.MICAH HARPER, I LIVE AT 3 2 6 CLAY STREET.
UH, MR. ERGON AND I GOT TOGETHER.
WE SAW THE OTHER NEIGHBORS NOT GETTING ALONG.
SO HE, UH, HE LET YOU KNOW HE HAS WITHDRAWN HIS OBJECTION, UM, WHICH IS GREAT 'CAUSE I SEE HIM EVERY DAY WALKING MY DOG.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET ALONG.
UM, THIS IS NEXT TO, IT'S ON THE EAST OF IOS.
IT'S AN, AN OLD HOUSE, UH, TWO OLD HOUSES ACTUALLY.
UM, AND SO THIS STREET HAS A LOT OF LARGE APARTMENTS AND, AND A LOT OF INFILL COMMERCIAL.
AND SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE ABILITY TO GO IN THIS, THIS WILL TURN INTO A RESTAURANT.
WE HAVE A RESTAURANT OPERATOR THAT'S BEEN IN SAN ANTONIO WITH THEIR FAMILY OVER 50 YEARS ON OPERATING RESTAURANTS.
UM, I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THE THINGS I'VE BROUGHT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LIVE ONE STREET OVER, UM, AND UH, I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN WHAT HAPPENS HERE AND, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO QUESTIONS ARE TO ME, STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
I HAVE NO QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT.
UM, ONLY THAT STAFF HAD IN THE STAFF REPORT SAID THAT THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA RE AREA'S HAD A LOT OF GROWTH, A LOT OF NEW DENSITY IS REALLY, WOULD NEW R FOUR EVEN BE SUITABLE HERE GIVEN HOW IN, YOU KNOW, HOW LARGE, UH, ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE AROUND IT? I WOULDN'T SAY A FOUR WOULD BE I, MY RECOMMENDATION OR MY COMMENT ABOUT IT BEING APPROPRIATE WAS BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT'S THERE ALREADY.
BUT, BUT THAT'S ONLY TO SAY ALL THE MORE.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION TO UH, UH, REZA, TO BE HONEST, THERE IS R FOUR.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL ON THIS STREET.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE STATING THAT THE R FOUR WOULD ALSO BE APPROPRIATE, SO.
BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES WOULD BE PERMITTED.
SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON THIS STREET.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KELLY QUESTIONS? SOUNDS GOOD.
UH, I AM THE DISTRICT FIVE REPRESENTATIVE.
I THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE.
I THINK STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
I GO TO
I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS SUBMITTED.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TSET DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER KELLY LEFT DISCUSSION.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TSET FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
COMMISSIONER PIE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 18.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE FOLKS BEHIND, BUT WE'RE, WE HAVE SOME OTHER LIMITATIONS THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS, SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
ALEXA, ANA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 18 IS LOCATED AT 1 3 5 2 6 NACODOCHES ROAD GOING FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTORS WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 43 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.
VALENCIA, HOA AND EL CHAPARRAL FERTILE VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE INTENT OF THE REZONING IS TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL HVAC COMPANY TO OCCUPY THE EXISTING BUILDING.
THERE IS NO PROPOSED EXPANSION BEYOND THE CURRENT BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND THE REQUEST WOULD BE HELD TO THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN.
ALTHOUGH THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT SETBACK BETWEEN THE BUILDING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
A PROPOSED LANDSCAPE BUFFER WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO A FURTHER TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL USES TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS IF RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THE INSTALLATION OF A 15 FOOT TYPE B BUFFER ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE THAT ABUT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS.
I'M AN ATTORNEY OF LAW FIRM OF KILLEN GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT.
OUR ADDRESS IS 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE IN SAN ANTONIO.
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ALL HAVE HAD A DAY, SO I WILL KEEP MY CHARACTER.MY COMMENTS UNCHARACTERISTICALLY BRIEF
UH, WE APPRECIATE STAFF'S REVIEW OF THIS ISSUE AND THE RECOMMENDATION.
WE DO DISAGREE WITH THEIR, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF A CONDITION OF THE BUFFER.
WE'LL EXPLAIN, UH, WHY AND, AND BRIEF AMOUNT OF WORDS.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF AIR CODE.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NADOS AND CHARRO IN DISTRICT 10.
IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
IT'S A ZONE C TWO WAS BUILT BACK IN THE 1980S, VALENCIA, WHICH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, JUST BEHIND IT WAS BUILT OUT IN THE 1970S.
UH, SO IT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE.
OUR CLIENT, AIRCO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE INTO THE SITE.
UH, IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A CALL CENTER RIGHT NOW.
THE CALL CENTER WILL TRANSITION OUT, UH, AS AIRCO MOVES IN, UH, UPON THE PURCHASE.
AND SO THEY'LL COME IN AND, UH, THEY DO AIR CONDITIONING, UH, REPAIR.
THEY'VE BEEN IN OPERATION IN SAN ANTONIO SINCE THE EARLY 1980S.
UH, ALL THE REASON THEY BOUGHT SUCH A BIG BUILDING, UH, 'CAUSE THEY, THE OTHER SITE IS A SMALLER BUILDING.
THE OTHER SITES, THEY DO STUFF OUTSIDE HERE.
THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTAIN EVERYTHING INSIDE EXCEPT FOR THEIR FLEET, WHICH WILL, UH, BE PARKED OUTSIDE OF COURSE.
UH, C TWO, AS I SAID, ASKING FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE.
UM, YOU SAW, YOU'VE SEEN THE SITE PLAN.
THEY OPERATE ALL THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
UH, GOOD FOLKS WITH LONG OPERATION.
WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING AS THE CONDITION I WANT TO FOCUS.
UH, YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS IS A 15 FOOT WIDE, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
IF THIS WERE BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT, IF THIS WERE RAW LAND, I HAVE NO OBJECTION.
THAT MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE EXISTING CONDITIONS HERE AND I I ZOOMED IN.
AND SO THE DISTANCE BETWEEN, YOU'LL SEE I'VE GOT SOME, UH, PICTURES WE'LL PULL UP IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
YOU SEE THIS DRAINAGE RIGHT HERE.
THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE DRAINAGE AND THE WALL IS 28 FEET.
AND SO IF YOU PUT A 15 FOOT BUFFER, FIRST THING YOU'RE GONNA DO IS YOU'RE GONNA WIPE OUT 50 PARKING SPACES, 5 0 50 PARKING SPACES IN ADDITION TO WHICH YOU WOULD NARROW THAT LANE BEHIND THERE TO 13 FEET IN WIDTH, WHICH IS FINE FOR A CAR MAYBE, BUT NOT FOR AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE.
TRY GETTING A FIRETRUCK IN A 13 FEET WIDTH, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A 20 FOOT MINIMUM WIDTH FOR FIRE LIGHTS.
NOW THERE IS NOT A FIRE LANE BACK THERE, BUT I CAN IMAGINE SCENARIO AT SOME POINT WHERE A FIRETRUCK MIGHT WANT TO GET BACK THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE EDGE OF THE DRAINAGE.
YOU CAN SEE KINDA THE OPEN SPACE, UH, ALONG EL CHARO.
SO THERE'S A WALL THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UH, SEPARATING THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE EXISTING USE, WHICH AGAIN HAS BEEN THERE 40 YEARS.
UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A VIEW OF THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
BY THE WAY, THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, ERICA'S NOT GONNA HAVE ANY OPERATIONS.
THEY MIGHT PARK CARS BACK THERE 'CAUSE THEY'VE GOT ALL THOSE PARKING SPACES, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE HOW NARROW IT IS BETWEEN THE WALL AND THEN THIS, UH, BUMP OUT OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT MANY YEARS AGO.
AGAIN, ANOTHER VIEW JUST AGAIN, OF THE NARROWNESS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER ON THE LEFT IS, IS THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE THAT YELLOW POLE, YOU CAN SEE THAT DRAINAGE.
YOU CAN SEE THE START OF THE PARKING STALL AND THEN THE WALL ITSELF.
BY THE WAY, MANY OF THE FOLKS IN VALENCIA HAVE TREES IN THEIR BACKYARD.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY GOT SOME, UH, SUFFICIENT GREEN BUFFER IN ADDITION TO THE WALL ITSELF.
UH, YESTERDAY SOMEONE IN MY OFFICE WENT OUT THERE WITH A TAPE MEASURE.
UH, BEST WAY TO DO IT IS, IS ACTUALLY GO OUT AND MEASURE IT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS, UH, 28 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE DRAIN.
AND OF COURSE THE BUILDING ITSELF IS A COUPLE FEET PAST THAT, UH, TO THE WALL.
LIKE I SAID, THIS BUILDING'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
HERE'S AN ARROW FROM 1995 SHOWING YOU CONDITIONS HAVEN'T CHANGED.
AND THEN, UH, THE GOOGLE STREET VIEW, GOOGLE GUYS WEREN'T DRIVING AROUND IN 1995, BUT THEY WERE DRIVING AROUND, UH, 10 YEARS AGO.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CONDITION WAS THE SAME 10 YEARS AGO.
SO AGAIN, WE WOULD LOSE 50 PARKING SPACES, WE WOULD NARROW THAT ACCESS TO THE BACK TO 13 FEET AND WIDTH.
AND FOR THE FOLKS THAT LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND IT, THEY'VE LIVED WITH THIS CONDITION, UH, WITH THIS BUILDING HERE AS A NEIGHBOR FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
UH, SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT WILL CHANGE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, WITH AIRCO COMING IN WITH THAT.
UH, AGAIN, UH, I WANTED TO KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF AND SO I WILL CONCLUDE MY REMARKS AND BE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSIONER MAY HAVE.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT 10 CASE COMMISSIONER.
WHAT'S IT TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS? WELL, THAT WAS A BRIEF COMMENT FROM THE ATTORNEY
UM, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
UH, IN FACT, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND ULTIMATELY THAT WE REMOVE THAT 15 FOOT BUFFER AND I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING, UH, WITHOUT THAT 15 FOOT BUFFER.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GET THERE IN A SECOND, BUT JUST IN CASE, ANY QUESTIONS LEFT? YES, COMMISSIONER BEL.
UM, I'M, UH, SO CD IS BEING REQUESTED CONDITIONAL USE AUTHORIZATION.
SO WE COULD CONSIDER, UH, DOWNER
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FACING LIGHTING.I NOTICED SOME OF THE, UH, LIGHTING OF THE PARKING SPOTS ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
I SAW ON SOME OF THE GOOGLE STREET VIEW GOT SOME PRETTY BIG LIGHTS NEAR PEOPLE'S YARDS.
THAT IS ONE OF THE TYPICAL CONDITIONS THIS, THAT COULD BE RECOMMENDED TO ASK THE APPLICANT.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE POSITION ON, UH, DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING? WELL, I THINK OUR POSITION WOULD BE ANY NEW LIGHTING WOULD COMPLY WITH ANY CURRENT CODE.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHICH LIGHTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO GET IN, OPEN UP THE SITE PLAN AGAIN AND, AND TURN ON WHERE THOSE GO.
YEAH, I POSSIBLY, COULD WE GO BACK TO THE GOOGLE STREET VIEW JUST TO SHOW AND, AND LEMME CLEAR, MY CLIENT IS NOT HERE TODAY, SO I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION FOR THEM ON DOWNWARD LIGHTING.
SO IT, IT WOULD ONLY BE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
UM, SO IF THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, YEAH, COUNSEL COULD CONSIDER IT AT THAT POINT AFTER YOU'RE HAVE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH YOUR CLIENT, I APPRECIATE IT.
I JUST HAVE, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT TODAY.
UM, BUT ON, ON GOOGLE STREET VIEW, UH, OR MAYBE IN THE, THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION IT SHOWED THE, THE SCREENSHOTS FROM GOOGLE STREET VIEW, I COULD JUST REFER TO THE, UH, THE LIGHTS.
I WAS, THERE WAS SOME YARDS THAT HAD TREES IN THEM AND OTHER YARDS THAT DIDN'T HAVE TREES.
SO I MEAN, UH, ACTUALLY ALSO IMPORTANT QUESTION TO STAFF, ARE THOSE DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTS, WOULD IT EVEN MAKE WE, WE WOULD NEED A TECHNICAL REVIEW TO DETERMINE THAT? YEAH.
AND, AND COMMISSIONER, IF I COULD, UH, THOSE LIGHTS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR THE BUILDING FOR 40 YEARS.
UH, WE DID REACH OUT TO VALENCIA AND WE WORKED WITH THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY FEEDBACK, ANY QUESTIONS THEY ALL RECEIVED NOTICE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY OF COURSE, TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE LIGHTS HAVE BEEN SHY IN THEIR BACKYARD FOR 40 YEARS.
I, I GUESS MY QUE MY POINT IS I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A PROBLEM.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS A PROBLEM WE WOULD'VE KNOWN ABOUT IT IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
I'LL LEAVE IT FOR THE COMMISSIONER DELIBERATION.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS LEFT? SEEING YES.
COMMISSIONER WRIGHT QUESTIONS I SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER KELLY QUESTIONS DO I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, MR. KILEN AND I HAVE INTERACTED IN THE PAST.
HE KNOWS I'M KIND OF A COMPROMISED KIND OF GUY,
I KIND OF AGREE WITH YOU, GIVEN THE FACT THE SITUATIONS EXISTED FOR MANY YEARS, WHAT SORT OF WIDTH OF A BUFFER WOULD YOU CONSIDER? IS THERE A COMPROMISE? WE COULD, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, FORMER ENGINEER OR CURRENT ENGINEER.
NEVER, NEVER A FORMER ENGINEER.
UH, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND IN RESPONSE TO THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
SO THERE'S TWO PIECES TO IT, COMMISSIONER.
ONE IS THE TRAFFIC AND TWO IS THE NUMBER OF PARKING STALLS THAT WOULD BE LOST.
UH, 50 IN THIS CASE, ANY AMOUNT OF, UH, BUFFER PUT IN THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN 18 UNDERCOAT, 18 FOOT DEPTH OF STALL, UH, WOULD ELIMINATE ALL THOSE PARKING SPACES.
SO I WOULD SAY EVEN A FIVE FOOT BUFFER, UH, WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT BECAUSE IT WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE ALL OF THOSE STALLS BECAUSE IF WE EXTENDED THE STALLS PAST THE FIVE FOOT, IT DOES THE SAME THING IN ENCROACHING INTO, UH, THAT DRIVE AREA.
YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KELLY.
ALRIGHT, UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S THAT TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION? MOTION? I HAVE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UH, MY MOTION WILL BE TO, UH, APPROVE THE ZONING WITHOUT THE 15 FOOT BUFFER AND NO OTHER, UH, MODIFICATIONS.
BY COMMISSIONER KLUM, UH, DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER DOWELL AND THEN SIPES.
JUST TO HAVE THE BRIEF CONVERSATION, UM, LIKE TO MOVE TO, UH, AMEND TO, UM, INCLUDE A, UH, CONDITION TO REQUIRE DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING.
THE PROJECT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE AUTHORIZATION.
WE'VE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE, UH, THE EXERCISE BEFORE WITH CONDITIONAL USE AUTHORIZATIONS.
IT'S ABOUT MAKING HIGHER INTENSITY USES, UH, MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
UM, CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE STORAGE OF VEHICLES OVERNIGHT ON THE LOT.
UM, THERE MIGHT BE CAUSE IN THE FUTURE TO E EVEN INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF LIGHTING IN THAT AREA FOR SECURITY.
UM, I THINK IT CERTAINLY WOULD IN IMPROVE IT, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE SITUATION EVEN IF IT'S AN EXISTING SITUATION, IT'D IMPROVE IT FOR THE NEIGHBORS, UH, TO, UM, HAVE LESS LIGHT POLLUTION IN THEIR YARDS.
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YES, I WOULD, I I WOULD'VE, UH, LOVED FOR THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO BE ACCEPTED.UM, I I, THAT'S NOT A 40-YEAR-OLD LIGHT FIXTURE, UM, ON THAT POLE.
THAT, THAT, THAT LIGHT FIXTURE THAT'S THERE NOW PROBABLY HAS A SIGNIFICANT HIGHER LUMEN OUTPUT THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PUT THERE.
AND I THINK IT'S A SIMPLE SMALL GESTURE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, TO DO DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING.
UM, BUT UM, OTHER THAN THAT I DO AGREE THAT, UM, WITH THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT DISCUSSION.
YES, COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
GOING BACK ONTO THE LIGHTING, UH, THOSE LIGHTS THAT YOU SEE IN THE BACK, LOOKS LIKE IT'S FACING THE BUILDING.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE FOR THE HOUSES.
AND IF YOU GO IN FRONT OF THE STORE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE LIGHTS ARE ALREADY FACING DOWNWARD.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? RIGHT.
UM, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION.
CHECK IT OUT WITH COUNSEL IF YOU WANT.
UM, BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN HERE FOR GOING ON 40 YEARS AT LEAST, MAYBE, UM, IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITHOUT CONDITIONS FOR ITEM NUMBER 18 BY COMMISSIONER WOODS IT.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, SIR.
UH, WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX.
BRON TO FOR ARIZONA PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS LOCATED AT 2 0 1 EAST CORTLAND AVENUE GOING FROM RM FOUR TO IDZ TWO WITH USE PERMITTED FOR FIVE DWELLING UNITS.
THERE ARE 39 NOTICES SENT ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE, THE EXISTING RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THEIR PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED ID Z TWO MEDIUM INTENSITY INFIELD DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED PER FIVE DWELLING UNITS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
WHILE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL BLOCK.
AND WITHIN PROXIMITY TO EXISTING IDZ BASED ZONING DISTRICTS, THE SURROUNDING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES ARE LIMITED TO FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
FURTHERMORE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PART OF A RECENTLY ADOPTED PLAN FOR THE CITY, WHICH STAFF IS GENERALLY NOT SUPPORTIVE OF REQUESTS THAT GO AGAINST NEWLY DEVELOPED PLANS.
AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS HOWEVER CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATE HOUSING TYPES TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION AT ALL INCOME LEVELS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
UM, I AM THE APPLICANT, ANDREW WEAVER FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2 0 1 EAST CORTLAND PLACE, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT ONE AND IT IS PART OF THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
PRESENTLY THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RM FOUR AND FOR ITS CURRENT USE, I NEED TO CHANGE IT.
WHEN TALKING TO THE STAFF, THEY HAD SUGGESTED MF 33.
MY CHART, IF YOU LOOK, IS THERE A POINTER? SORRY, IF YOU LOOK AT MY PROPERTY, SORRY.
ALMOST EVERYBODY OR, OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY IS MF 33.
AND WHEN I WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT IS IN FACT WHAT I HAD RECOMMENDED, UH, REQUESTED AFTER THE MEETING, THE CHAIR HAD RECOMMENDED THAT I CHANGE IT TO IDZ TWO WITH THE USE OF FIVE UNITS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE IS IDZ OVER HERE AS WELL, BUT MF 33 IS CONSISTENT.
MOST OF THESE ARE, THAT'S EIGHT UNITS, THAT'S SIX UNITS.
WE HAVE FIVE, WE HAVE SIX SLOTS FOR FIVE UNITS.
SO I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE
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TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, RICK SHELL, WHICH IS THEIR PLANNING GUY.AND, UH, HE SAW NO PROBLEMS AND THOUGHT THAT IDZ TWO WAS CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
SO, UM, IF I MAY HAVE GO ON MORE, PLEASE.
WE WANT TO, WE HAVE NO INTENTION TO CHANGE, BUILD, ADD DEMOLISH.
WE TRY TO BE A CONSISTENT MEMBER OF THE TOBIN HILL ASSOCIATE, NOT THE ASSOCIATE, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO PROVIDE A SAFE AND CONVENIENT, UH, PLACE.
AND I ASKED THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR APPROVAL AT MY REQUEST.
ALRIGHT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER KELLUM TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS MR. WEAVER? YES, PLEASE.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TODAY.
CAN YOU JUST STATE HOW LONG YOU'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY, HOW LONG YOU'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY? OH, SORRY.
SO YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH, OKAY, SO IT WAS AFTER THE LAST, THE LAST CHANGE IN ZONING TO THE R FOUR, IS THAT RIGHT? I'D HAVE TO DEFER.
I JUST, SO FOR THE RECORD, IT, IT'S GONE FROM R 3 19 95 TO B THREE NA 96 TO C TWO NA 2001 TO RM FOUR IN 2015.
AND SO I GUESS MY POINT WITH ALL OF THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN A STRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR QUITE SOME PERIOD OF TIME.
VERY GOOD, UH, COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE A VERY GOOD, UM, A VERY GOOD, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBER WHEN IT COMES TO TAKING CARE OF THIS PROPERTY.
UH, AND I, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO, UM, APPROVE THIS MOTION.
UH, BUT I WILL LEAVE THAT TO THE RIGHT TIME CHAIR.
BUT ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE YOUR KIND WORDS.
WE AGAIN, WE TRY TO BE GOOD MEMBERS.
MRS. WEAVER SAID WE WILL ONLY OWN SOMETHING IF SHE COULD TAKE HER PARENTS THROUGH IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD STANDARD OF HOW WE SHOULD LIVE OUR LIVES.
SO SHE, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT, THAT IS ALL OF MY QUESTIONS SLASH COMMENTS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
I, I CAN'T BLAME YOU AT THIS POINT.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER DOVE, UH, TO STAFF.
SO, UH, TO STAFF, WHAT'S THE BACKGROUND OF THE APPLICATION FOR NON-CONFORMING USE APP? UM, 20 25 11 201 0 4.
IT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT SIDE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WAS DENIED.
AND HENCE WHY HE IS REQUESTING THE REZONING.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE PRIOR, UH, PROOF THAT A FIVE PLEX WAS ALWAYS PERMITTED ON THIS LOT.
COULD YOU GIVE, COULD YOU GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON THAT? WHAT, WHY WAS THERE NO, I KNOW THAT YOU ASKING FOR THE, THE NEGATIVE OF PROOF.
BUT WHY, WHY WAS IT, WE CAN PULL IT UP, BUT GENERALLY IT'S, THERE'S NOT SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST.
SO AGAIN, HE REQUESTED A NON-CONFORMING FOR FIVE UNITS AND IT WASN'T PRO, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH PROOF FOR STAFF TO GIVE THE APPROVAL FOR THE NON-CONFORMING.
HENCE WHY HE RECEIVED A DENIAL.
SO WHEN WAS THE, UH, WHEN WERE THE, WHEN WAS THE FIFTH UNIT? WHAT DO WE KNOW WHEN THE FIFTH UNIT WAS PUT IN? SO ALL OF THAT WAS DONE.
UH, THAT THERE'S A PERIOD WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME ZONING CODE, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT IT, AT SOME POINT IN ITS LIFE, IT WAS A HALFWAY HOUSE.
AND SO AS A RESULT, THAT'S WHY THERE'S COMMERCIAL GRADE FIRE EXTINGUISHER SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THIS STRUCTURE IS BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN A, A HALFWAY HOUSE, I BELIEVE FOR ABOUT A DECADE.
THEN IT WENT INTO DISUSE AND THEN, UM, THE PREVIOUS OWNER REHABILITATED IT AND YOU CAME IN, UH, SORRY TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION AGAIN, BUT YOU CAME INTO OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY IN 2017.
DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT? SEEING NONE QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KELLY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.
ACTUALLY WE CAN JUST GO MOTION NOW.
COMMISSIONER KEL, UH, I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DUVALL.
UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT, TO MY RIGHT.
ALRIGHT, UM, BRIEFLY DISCUSSION.
UH, I FORGOT I MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION IN NOVEMBER IN PLANNING.
UH, BUT THIS DOES AMELIORATE THE NEED FOR A PLAN CHANGE.
UM, BUT GETS TO WHAT I THINK IS THE APPROPRIATE THING HERE, WHICH IS USING
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THE FIVE UNITS AS THEY WERE ESTABLISHED AND WITH RESPECT TO THE NON-CONFORMING USE, THAT PROOF OF CONTINUITY, THAT CONTINUOUS USE IS BOY SUPER HARD.SO, UH, I THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE.
UH, MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY DR.
KELLUM WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VE ROLL CALL VOTE.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
AND I WILL POINT OUT THAT MR. WEAVER HAS BEEN, UH, VERY LAUDATORY OF OUR STAFF, WHICH I THINK IS ALWAYS APPROPRIATE, BUT ALWAYS NICE TO HEAR AND I'M GLAD HE PASSED IT ALONG.
ALRIGHT, UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10 PLEASE.
BRONTE FRERE ZONING PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS LOCATED AT 7 2 2 MENIFEE BOULEVARD GOING FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS.
ALL OVERLAY IS STREAM REMAIN THE SAME.
THERE'S ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR TO OPPOSED.
THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELIHOOD ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED R SIX CD FOR A, WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELL UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL BLOCK AND WITHIN PROXIMITY TO EXISTING R SIX BASED ZONING DISTRICTS.
THE CHANGES ON YOUR REQUEST WOULD PRESERVE THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF THE PROPERTY BUT ALLOW ONE ADDITIONAL UNIT.
FURTHERMORE, THE CD CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST REQUIRES A SUBMISSION OF A SITE PLAN THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED WITHOUT FURTHER PUBLIC REVIEW.
THE PROPOSED ZONING IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATE HOUSING TYPES TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION AT ALL INCOME LEVELS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE AND APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE AND IF WE COULD HAVE JUST ONE OF YOU TALK, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
LET'S GET UH, SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION.
MY NAME IS ROSA ELENA ANO AND MY ADDRESS 7 2 2 MAN, I DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH, BUT I HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE WITH ME THAT IS GOING TO DIRECT EVERYTHING TO YOU IN ENGLISH.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
I AM A LOCAL REALTOR AND I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY AT 7 2 2 PHY FOR ROSEN, HER HUSBAND JAVIER.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR BOTH, ALL OF Y'ALL'S TIME TODAY.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY FOR EVERYONE.
UM, BUT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS PROPERTY, UM, WE DID NOT KNOW, IT DID NOT HAVE CONDITIONAL USE AT THE TIME THAT ALL THIS WAS HAPPENING.
SO THE PROPERTY IS NOT PLANNED TO BE CHANGED IN ANY SORT OF WAY.
IT IS THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN AND IT WAS PERMITTED FOR THAT.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THEY DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TRANSLATION DIFFICULTY THERE.
BUT THEY ARE FOLLOWING ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY NOW.
AND WE ALSO VISITED THOMPSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH DID LEAVE A LETTER, SO I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANT TO.
UH, SO WE VISITED WITH THEM, UH, LAST MONTH.
IT WAS ABOUT 40 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AND THEY WERE ALL, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALSO, I, THE PHOTO THAT WAS TAKEN, UM, IS, IS A LITTLE BLURRY BUT IF Y'ALL WANNA PUT UP ON YOUR CELL PHONE, IT'S SEVEN TWO TWO PHY AND IT SHOWS ALL OF THE PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS.
THEY PUT ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS RENOVATION TO THE PROPERTY.
WHEN THEY PURCHASED IT, IT WAS A COMPLETE SHACK, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT HELP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY HAVING HOMELESS PEOPLE AND SUCH IN THEIR HOMES NEXT DOOR.
SO IN THE TIME THEY'VE OWNED IT, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS, THEY HAVE
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RENOVATED THE PROPERTY COMPLETELY, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THE UPDATED PHOTOS ON ZILLOW OR REALTOR.COM AND THAT PROPERTY IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION.UM, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY SHOWING WHERE I SHOW UP WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A PARTY OR TRASH OR ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
UM, THE BACK UNIT HAS IS THE ADDITIONAL UNIT.
SO PER THE FRONT, IT STILL LOOKS COMPLETELY LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
THERE IS A SIDE DOOR TO THE BACK UNIT, WHICH IS THE QUOTE SECOND UNIT.
THAT PERSON HAS BEEN THERE AND STILL IS THERE FOR THE LAST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.
SHE'S A SINGLE PARENT TO FOUR KIDS AND NEVER GIVEN ANYONE PROBLEMS. UM, NO CITY COMPLAINTS, NOISE COMPLAINTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ALRIGHT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
DID WE GET THE LETTER UP ON THE PROJECTOR? I DIDN'T SEE IT.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE.
COMMISSIONER, WE LOST COMMISSIONER KELLY ON THAT SCREEN.
IS HE STILL COMMISSIONER KELLY? ARE YOU STILL WITH US? I'M STILL HERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS? YEAH, SORRY.
COMMISSIONER ELL J JUST BRIEFLY, UH, CAN WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT IN, UM, WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS, UH, TO THE PROJECT APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVE? UM, I JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DIDN'T, I IMAGINE IT DIDN'T COME UP BECAUSE IT WASN'T ASKED.
COMMISSIONER DOWELL, CAN YOU MAKE SURE YOU'RE SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE? SORRY.
UM, COULD YOU JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT? SO WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED, THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T ASK.
UM, SO THIS GENTLEMAN AND, AND HIS WIFE ROSA, THEY ARE CLIENTS OF MINE.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY MY DIRECT CONTRACTORS ON PROPERTIES THAT I USE AND, AND A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
I'VE KNOWN THEM FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW.
AND WHEN THEY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY, I DID NOT KNOW THEM.
I DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING OF THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OLD PICTURES, THE PROPERTY LOOKS TO BE VERY, VERY VACANT AND VERY NOT INHABITABLE.
LIKE YOU CANNOT LIVE IN THAT PROPERTY.
UH, I DO HAVE THE BEFORE PICTURES 'CAUSE WE WERE GONNA UTILIZE IT FOR THE APPRAISAL.
UM, AND SO IT DOES SUIT FOR IMPROVING THE COMMUNITY, INCREASING HOUSING, THE DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.
AND I DON'T KNOW THEM BACK THEN, BUT I CAN SAY THAT THEY FOLLOWED ALL OF MY ADVICE AND RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THAT.
SO IF THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN, THEY WOULD HAVE FOLLOWED WHATEVER ADVICE, RECOMMENDATIONS THE, UM, PER THE ADDITION WAS PERMITTED CORRECTLY.
SO ACTUALLY COULD YOU, COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? BECAUSE I MEAN, THE ZONING DIDN'T ALLOW IT.
SO HOW DID THE PERMITTING ALLOW FOR TWO UNITS? GREAT QUESTION.
FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO
SO THE CITY PERMITTED OR, OR DIDN'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THERE BEING AN AN A DU.
IT MOST LIKELY WAS ALLOWED WHEN THE A DU WAS SUBMITTED, UH, THE OWNER WAS LIVING ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT IN THIS CASE, THE OWNERS ARE NOT GOING TO BE LIVING ON THE PROPERTY, HENCE THE NEED FOR A ZONING FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS.
SO PRESENTLY IS, DOES THE OWNER, UH, LIVE ON THE PROPERTY? NO, SHE DOES NOT.
SHE LIVES A COUPLE OF STREETS OVER.
SO PRESENTLY THERE ARE TWO TENANTS ON THE PROPERTY.
THERE ARE, UH, BACK TO CITY, WAS IT THAT THE CITY ALLOWED THE PERMIT TO GO THROUGH OR WAS THERE ACTUALLY LIKE A FULL A DU PERMIT ISSUED? I CANNOT CONFIRM, BUT I'M UNDER THE SUSPICION THAT THE A DU WAS APPROVED AND BUILT.
UM, HOLD ON ONE SECOND ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I'M SURE THE A DU APPLICATION AND PERMIT SAYS THAT THE CONDITIONS OF THE A DU.
SO IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT WAS BUILT IN 2019.
I'M ASSUMING AT THAT TIME AGAIN THE OWNER WAS LIVING ON THE PROPERTY.
THE, UH, A DU PERMIT APPLICATION.
I MEAN, I, I CAN LOOK UP THE, UH, THE PDF NOW ON THE WEBSITE.
I'M SURE IT HAS INFORMATION ABOUT THE CONDITIONS IN A DU AND WHETHER ADUS ARE ACCEPTABLE.
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LIKE WHAT? IT, IT, IT MUST INCLUDE THE REQUIREMENT ON THE APPLICATION AND ON THE PERMIT.IT DOES FOR THE APPLICATION AND THE PERMIT, BUT I CANNOT SAY FROM ONE OWNER TO THE NEXT.
DURING CLOSING BRIEFLY, IF I MIGHT INTERRUPT, I APOLOGIZE.
UH, TIME IS 4 27 AND COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA HAS LEFT THE MEETING BRIEFLY, HOPEFULLY.
UM, SORRY, JUST SO I CAN MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE, IF I COULD HAVE YOU COME BACK UP AGAIN, HELP ME UNDERSTAND, MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSING SOMETHING HERE.
UM, WHEN DID YOUR CLIENT COME INTO POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY? WHAT YEAR DID YOU PURCHASE THE PROPERTY? SIX YEARS AGO.
UH, AND I'M SORRY, THE A DU APPLICATION WAS 2019.
SO DID YOUR, WAS YOUR CLIENT OR WERE YOU THE ONE WHO SUBMITTED THE A DU APPLICATION? I DID NOT KNOW THIS CLIENT THAT LONG AGO AS, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED
SO WHEN YOUR CLIENT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, YOU WEREN'T REPRESENTING THE CLIENT? NO, I MET THEM TWO YEARS AGO.
COULD, COULD I ASK OR, UH, COULD WE HAVE THE ABSOLUTELY TRANSLATOR, CAN WE HAVE THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES PLEASE? ANO SOLI.
UH, SO THE QUESTION WAS, UM, WAS SHE THE ONE WHO SUBMITTED THE A DU APPLICATION? HER HUSBAND DID IT.
THAT, THAT, THAT WAS THE IMPORTANT QUESTION.
I THINK SO YEAH, SORRY FOR HAVING TO HAVE YOU.
NOPE, I JUST DON'T WANNA LEAVE FORWARD.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS LEFT? YOU WANT TO ASK ALL THAT? ASK IT JUST REAL QUICK.
IN 80, YOU REFERRING TO IT AS AN A DU IS AN A DU, CAN IT BE ATTACHED OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE DETACHED? IT COULD BE BOTH.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT? COMMISSIONER KELLY? NO, THANK YOU.
RIGHT, I LOOKED RIGHT AND SAID LEFT AGAIN.
UH, ALRIGHT, THERE BEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, I AM NOT INTERESTED IN LITIGATING ANY KIND OF PERMIT ISSUES.
UH, I'M HOPING THAT IN OUR NEXT UDC AMENDMENTS WE WILL DO WHAT I WANNA DO IN THE LAST UDC AMENDMENTS AND MAKE ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS MOOT BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TWO UNITS AVAILABLE BY RIGHT IN ANY SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE.
I AM GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 10 AS SUBMITTED AND DO SO.
I'M GOING WITH COMMISSIONER CHASE THIS TIME.
UM, FURTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER TO MY RIGHT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT.
SO ABSENT A, UM, POLICY CHANGE, ADUS ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK A CERTAIN WAY.
THEY SERVE A CERTAIN FUNCTION.
THE RULES ABOUT OWNER OCCUPANCY ARE MEANT TO PRESERVE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE AN APPLICANT DID APPLY FOR NADU.
THEY WOULD'VE UNDERSTOOD THE LIMITATIONS OF IT, INCLUDING FOR RESALE.
UM, I, I KIND OF GOT, I, I GOT THE IMPRESSION MAYBE I MISHEARD, BUT I GOT THE IMPRESSION, UH, FROM THE PROJECT APPLICANT THAT THEY HAD GONE IN NOT REALIZING, UM, BUT IT BEING CLARIFIED THAT THEY DID, THEY WERE THE ONES THAT APPLIED FOR THE A DU.
I'M GONNA BELIEVE THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE A DU SAID AND THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE A DU.
SO WITH THAT, I, I WILL BE OPPOSING, UM, THE, UM, OR VOTING AGAINST THE, UH, MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? TO MY LEFT? SEEING NONE.
MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL, UH, OF ITEM NUMBER 10 AS SUBMITTED.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TODAY.
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TOOK SO LONG.MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BETAS ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IS LOCATED AT 4 4 6 DEIA DRIVE GOING FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO R SIX CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 24 NOTICES MAILED FOUR IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED RAINBOW HILLS AREA, NAS IN FAVOR AND ONE IN FAVOR AND ZERO POSE OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING R SIX DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED R SIX CD DISTRICT WITH A CONDITION OF USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE SECOND UNIT WAS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED AS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A RES, A REZONING TO ALLOW BOTH UNITS TO BE UTILIZED AS RENTALS.
NONCONFORMING DUPLEXES EXIST ON NEIGHBORING ON THE NEIGHBORING BLOCK TO THE WEST DEMONSTRATING THE PRESENCE OF SIMILAR RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES WITHIN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
FURTHERMORE, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH ENCOURAGES AND ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATE HOUSING TYPES TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S GROWING POPULATION AT ALL INCOME LEVELS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
UH, MY NAME IS RIM GARCIA AND I AM THE OWNER, UH, AND OCCUPANT.
UM, YOU SAID YOU'RE THE OCCUPANT? YES.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TELL US ABOUT THIS? UM, SO WE ORIGINALLY BUILT THE A DDU, UH, AS SOMEWHERE FROM MY PARENTS, UH, TO BE, UH, MY FATHER PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR, SO MY MOM MOVED, MOVED INTO THE MAIN HOUSE WITH US AND WE CURRENTLY RENT OUT THE A DDU, UH, TO A SINGLE MOM AND HER SON.
UH, MY WIFE AND I MAY BE MOVING RIGHT, UH, IN MAY.
SO WE WERE AWARE WHEN WE BUILT THE A DDU THAT THE OWNER HAD TO LIVE ON PROPERTY.
UH, SO NOW THAT THE TIME HAS COME WHERE WE MAY MOVE OUT, WE ARE LOOKING TO REZONE IT, UH, FROM THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE.
I UNDERSTAND THEY PREFER THE R SIX WITH CONDITIONAL USE TO ONLY LIMIT IT TO TO, TO DWELLING UNITS.
SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU APPROVE THAT HERE TODAY.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. GARCIA.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ, THIS IS A DISTRICT FOUR CASE TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KELLY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU TO MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER ELL, UH, STAFF, UH, MENTIONED SIMILAR DENSITIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WHEN I LOOKED ON GOOGLE MAPS, LOOKED LIKE A PRETTY ESTABLISHED, UH, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
COULD YOU MAYBE GIVE SOME MORE CONTEXT ON WHERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TO SIMILAR DENSITIES? UH, OH,
SO, UH, SO SORRY, IT'S TO STAFF RIGHT NOW, BUT, OH, SORRY.
YEAH, MS. BEEZ, YOU GOOD? YEAH.
MR. GARCIA, IF I'M, IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER DUBAL, IF DID THE QUESTION TO YOU, ARE THERE SIMILAR USES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? FROM WHAT WE'VE OBSERVED, THERE MAY BE HOUSES THAT HAVE MAYBE AN ATTACHED DWELLING UNIT, UM, JUST FROM WHAT WE OBSERVED.
THEY'RE NOT TOO COMMON IN THE AREA FROM WHAT I'VE OBSERVED.
BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST A NEIGHBOR.
SO ALONG RASA DRIVE, WHICH IS AGAIN, THE BLOCK TO THE LEFT, YOU'LL START SEEING PROPERTIES THAT HAVE TWO ADDRESSES ON ONE LOT.
SO THAT'S WHEN I MENTIONED NON-CONFORMING DUPLEXES, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
YOU MEANING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ZONING FOR IT, BUT THEY OBVIOUSLY CLEARLY HAVE TWO ADDRESSES FOR IT.
AND THAT WOULDN'T, THOSE WOULDN'T BE, UH, ADUS PERMITTED ADUS POSSIBLY.
I MEAN, THEY COULD BE, BUT ULTIMATELY THERE'S TWO UNITS ON THAT ONE PROPERTY.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS LEFT? ALRIGHT.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
THERE'S AN APPRO MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 21.
WHAT'S IT TOO SLOW? UM, ALRIGHT, UH, DISCUSSION.
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DISCUSSION.UH, COMMISSIONER KELLY? NO THANK YOU.
DISCUSSION LEFT? YES, COMMISSIONER BEL.
UH, ONLY I, I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A, A, A TREND HERE.
SO THIS IS CERTAINLY GONNA, YOU KNOW, VERY RELEVANT TO, YOU KNOW, BECOME A, A, AN ISSUE IN THE UN UH, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE.
UH, PROBABLY AN ISSUE FOR, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
UM, ADUS ARE MEANT TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
I THINK WE'RE SEEING A POSSIBLY A TREND OF FOLKS TRYING TO DRIFT THEIR ADUS INTO, UH, TWO UNITS.
UM, ABSENT A, A POLICY CHANGE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S PROPER.
UM, ADUS WERE ALLOWED HERE WITH THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, KEEP TO THAT UNLESS IF WE, UH, CHANGE THE POLICY UNIVERSALLY.
UH, SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, UH, MY ONLY REBUTTAL TO THAT IS THAT'S WHAT THIS PROCESS IS FOR.
IT IS SIMPLY, UH, REQUIRES AN APPLICATION.
AND IN THIS CASE, STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
UH, MR. GARCIA HAS DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT.
UH, SO I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 21 BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHASE.
ROLL CALL VOTE COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
ALRIGHT, NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 24, PLEASE.
COMMISSIONERS AT EITHER GOMEZ ZONING, SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM 24 IS LOCATED AT 26 0 1 GUADALUPE STREET.
GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO C TWO NA COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT.
THERE WERE 67 NOTICES SENT OUT, ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO POST THE PROSPECT HILL AND CHAR HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
STAFF HAS FOUND LIKELY A LIKELY INDICATION OF ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR WELFARE.
THE CURRENT R FOUR, THE CURRENT R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED MIDBLOCK WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
INTRODUCING COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION WOULD CONSTITUTE AN INTRUSION INTO THE STABLE RESIDENTIAL FABRIC THAT COULD ESTABLISH A NEGATIVE PRECEDENT FOR FURTHER COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT.
FURTHERMORE, THE PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY REZONED FROM C TWO TO THE CURRENT R FOUR DISTRICT AS PART OF A LARGE AREA RESORTING EFFORT REAFFIRMING THE CITY'S INTENT TO PRESERVE THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS CASE DID GO TO THE JANUARY 14TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE.
THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO RE AMEND THE REQUEST TO C TWO P COMMERCIAL PEDESTRIAN DISTRICT AND MR. ZAMBRANO IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, MR. ZUNO, IF YOU WOULD COME UP AND PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, MY, UH, RESIDENCE IS, UH, UH, I LIVE AT THE, UH, 7 9 4 3 CECO.
AND UH, I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY OF THE 26 0 1 GUADALUPE.
AND SO FIRST, MR. ANO, UM, ARE YOU AMENDING YOUR REQUEST AT THIS TIME? UH, BEG YOUR PARDON? ARE YOU AMENDING YOUR RE REQUEST REQUEST AT THIS TIME TO C TWO P? YES.
C TWO P AND A CORRECT? YES, SIR.
UH, TELL US WHY YOU'RE SEEKING, UH, THIS ZONING CHANGE.
UH, UH, LAST 2023 WHEN I BOUGHT, WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY LAST, UH, 2019, UH, 2019, IT, UH, IT, UH, IT IS, UH, C TWO.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, I'M PLANNING TO LET IT RENT OR, UH, I, I, I BOUGHT THAT.
I DON'T HAVE YET, UH, UH, A PRECISE, UH, PLAN WHETHER I, I PUT MY OWN BUSINESS OR LET IT RENT IN, IN C TWO.
AND, UH, I, I WAS, UH, UH, LOOKING FOR ANY RENTER, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UH, ON A 2023, UH, THE CITY, UH, UH, CHANGED, UH, THE ZONING TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND, UH, I WASN'T, UH, ABLE TO ATTEND THE HEARING UNFORTUNATELY.
THAT'S WHY I, NOW I'M ASKING, UH, PLEASE, TO ALL OF YOU IF I CAN REGAIN MY, UH, C TWO OF, UH, AND AS, AS I SAID, UH, WORTH MENTIONING
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THAT I'M WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND, UH, THEY, THEY'RE ALL, UH, I HAD A MEETING WITH THE BOARD.UH, THEY ALL AGREED TO SUPPORT ME, UH, TO REGAIN MY UH, UH, COMMERCIAL ZONING ON MY PROPERTY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. MCDONALD.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT IS TO ME THERE ARE ALL DISTRICT FIVE CASES NOW,
UM, AND UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AT, AT PLANNING WAS THAT C TWO NA WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIRS OR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR, EXCUSE ME, UM, WOULD, WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A PLANNING AMENDMENT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, DOES C TWO P REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT? IT DOES NOT.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
I'M GONNA OPEN UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KELLY QUESTIONS? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER BEL, UH, COULD STAFF JUST HELP ME WITH CLARIFYING THE, UH, BACKGROUND? THE BACKGROUND OF THE CASE? I WAS TRYING TO, WHICH PART? SORRY, WHICH PART? WELL, NO, SO THE, UM, THE LOT IS NOT DEVELOPED.
UM, IT, IT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL.
IT WAS REZONED RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S ALL.
AND WHAT WAS THE BASIS FOR THE REZONING RESIDENTIAL? IT WAS AN LAR INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
I, I, I COULD SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO THIS WAS A LARGE ZONE INITIATED BY DISTRICT FIVE.
SO THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK, IT WAS PRIMARILY ZONED C TWO ALL ALONG THAT BLOCK RIGHT THERE.
UM, BETWEEN THE CREEK AND SOUTH ZAMORA.
UH, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
SO ALL OF THE PROPERTIES GOT A RESIDENTIAL ZONING ON THAT BLOCK.
AND THEN, UH, LASTLY, WHAT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION AT THEIR JANUARY 14TH HEARING? THEY REQUESTED CONTINUANCE.
SO THERE, THERE WAS A CONTINUANCE, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF EITHER, UH, ALTERING THE ZONING SO THAT IT CONFORMED WITH THE PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH IS ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY.
ALTERING THE ZONING TO CONFORM TO THE PLAN.
SO NO PLAN AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE ZONING CASE, UH, ME FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
IT'S FUNNY, I TALKED TO BOTH PROSPECT HILL AND HISTORIC WEST SIDE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION AND PROSPECT HILL SAID HE SENT SOMETHING IN, UH, AND HISTORIC WEST SIDE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION SAID THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF THE C TWO WITH THE CD FOR LIGHT AND AUTO AND AUTO REPAIR, LIGHT TRUCK AND AUTO REPAIR.
SO THOSE WERE SURPRISES TO ME.
I DO HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING C TWO MID-BLOCK.
UM, HOWEVER, GIVEN THAT, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS APPEAR TO BE IN FAVOR, UM, GIVEN THE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WITH THIS LAR AND POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 24 AS AMENDED.
AH, WHAT THAT YOU GOT IT THIS TIME
UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WSET.
UH, DISCUSSION TO MY RIGHT DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER KELLY, I'M A LITTLE BIT TROUBLED BY THE LOCATION OF THE LOT IN MID BLOCK, BUT UH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT OF VIEW COMMISSIONER.
ALRIGHT, UH, DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT? YES.
UH, ONLY THAT THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS VERY IMPORTANT ON THAT POINT.
UM, ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT.
UH, I WOULD POINT OUT ONE OTHER THING WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY THESE KINDS OF NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD HAVE BODEGAS AND SIMILAR TYPE, UH, CONVENIENCES IN MID-BLOCK.
AND SO HISTORICALLY IT'S NOT ENTIRELY OUT OF THE ORDINARY, EVEN IF IT'S SOMEWHAT FOREIGN TO OUR EYES.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED BY ME.
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COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.KEEP REACHING OUT TO UH, LETICIA SANCHEZ.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 26.
ITEM NUMBER 26 IS LOCATED AT 4 1 1 AND FOUR 17 SOUTH SAN MARCOS STREET.
GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO IDZ TWO.
MEDIUM INTENSITY INFO DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.
THERE WERE 17 NOTICES SENT OUT.
ZERO OPPOSED THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
STAFF HAS FOUND INDICATION OF LIKELY ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE.
THE CURRENT R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR PROPERTY SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED IDZ TWO MEDIUM INFIELD INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH THE USES PERMITTED MF 33 IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SITUATED WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL CONTEST, THOUGH ACTIVE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS EXIST DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE SITE.
NOTABLY, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG SOUTH SAN MARCOS DEAD END STREET.
THE POSITIONING DISPOSITIONING ISOLATES TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PREVENTING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WITHIN THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PROPERTY IS TO THE, THE EAST IS ZONED I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
THIS DISTRICT PERMITS INTENSIVE LAND USES SUCH AS RECYCLING FACILITIES, MANUFACTURING PLANTS, AND TRUCK STOPS THAT MAY GENERATE NOISE ODORS POTENTIALLY TO DETRIMENTAL TO PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT STAFFERS RECOMMENDED TO WITH AN ALTERNATE FOR MF 18.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
UH, ROGER LIVINGSTON, 2 0 7 CIMARRON CREEK.
UM, JUST FIRST WANTED TO STATE THAT, UH, STAFF, LIKE YOU SAID, HAS RECOMMENDED DENY WITH AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, ZONING.
AND WE'VE EXPLORED THAT AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT JUST, UH, IS NOT VIABLE FOR THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS 'CAUSE I, I THINK THERE IS SOME POINTS THAT COULD BE MADE, UH, POSSIBLE MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THERE'S POTENTIAL THAT I'M GONNA GET DENIED AND LIKE THAT'S IT, WE'RE DONE, THEN I NEED TO PAUSE HERE AND SHUT MY MOUTH.
SO, UM, I, I FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE ON THE PROCESS, MR. LIVINGSTON.
UH, THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE YOU CAN GET DENIED, UH, AND WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE HAVE THE MOTION AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I SHOULD HAVE OFFERED YOU THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CONTINUANCE, UH, EARLIER TODAY.
BUT, UM, AT THIS POINT, LET'S, LET'S HEAR ABOUT THE PROJECT AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
UM, SECOND, I NEED TO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING UNDERDRESSED.
I HAD A SWEAT SWEATER LIKE COMMISSIONER SIPES AND I THOUGHT I HAD IT, BUT I GOT THIS INSTEAD.
SO WHAT IS THIS PROJECT ABOUT? THIS IS MILITARY CITY USA, UH, I WAS IN THE MILITARY.
MY BUSINESS PARTNER MARTIN OVER THERE IS IN THE MILITARY.
HE'LL SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS SO HE CAN FILL YOU IN MORE ON THE PROJECT DETAILS.
I'M GONNA USE MY TIME ON THE, UM, CLARIFICATION ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS IS GONNA BE A LARGER HOME, EIGHT BEDROOM HOME, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT, UM, WILL BE LOCKED INTO A SITE PLAN LIKE THERE IS WITH THE ZONING.
WITHOUT IT, SOMEONE IS ALLOWED TO BUILD THIS WITHOUT PERMISSION AND WHOEVER BUYS IT IF WE DON'T PLAN ON SELLING IT.
BUT WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF WE SOLD IT, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING EXCEPT INHERIT WHAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED OR DENIED HERE.
UH, SO I JUST WANNA GET THAT ON RECORD.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO AFTER YOU GRADUATE FROM BASIC TRAINING OVER AT LACKLAND, WHICH HE AND I BOTH DID, YOU WERE LOCKED DOWN TO A PERIMETER, BASICALLY FOUR 10, AND YOU HAVE TO STAY IN YOUR BLUES ON FAMILY DAY.
AND IT'S JUST A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE SCENARIO AFTER BEING OUT OF A, LIKE A PRESSURE COOKER OF STRESS.
AND WE WANT TO GIVE BACK TO THE MILITARY.
ONE OF THE WAYS WE THOUGHT WOULD DO THIS WOULD BE LIKE A DREAM COME TRUE IF FAMILIES COULD COME DOWN TO SAN ANTONIO AND STAY TOGETHER, CHOP UP THE EXPENSIVE NIGHTLY RATE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE BEDROOM COUNT.
AND, UH, AND HAVE A REALLY, REALLY NEAT PLACE TO STAY.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA INVEST ALMOST 50% OF THE BUILD COST INTO MAKING THIS PLACE ON THE INSIDE LOOK REALLY,
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REALLY COOL, LIKE MILITARY THEMED AND JUST ALMOST LIKE A MUSEUM OF ARTIFACTS AND EVERYTHING.AND SO IT SIMPLY WON'T FUNCTION AS A LONG-TERM RENTAL WITH THAT MUCH INVESTED INTO IT.
SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO KNOW, HAVE A WARM AND FUZZY THAT IT CAN BE OPERATED AS AN AIRBNB.
SO THAT'S A QUICK RUNDOWN AND MARTIN WILL GO INTO MORE DETAILS FOR YOU ON THAT.
UH, LET ME ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION'S CONCERNS.
'CAUSE THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS AND, UH, THAT'S MISS LETICIA SANCHEZ.
WE HAVE DOOR KNOCKED LIKE EXTENSIVELY, AND WE HAVE NOT, NOT ONLY IS EVERYONE, UH, NOT AGAINST IT.
LIKE, PLEASE BUILD, UM, THE BIGGEST SUPPORTERS.
ARE THOSE DIRECTLY NEXT TO US ON THE, UM, ON THE SITE MAP OR CAN YOU DO THE, THE TOP SLIDE? UH, THIS ONE.
SO OUR GREATEST CONCERN WAS AFFECTING OUR NEIGHBORS IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.
THESE ARE ALL VACANT LOTS AND WE'VE GOT A DUPLEX GOING UP RIGHT HERE.
NOTHING'S BEEN DEVELOPED HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
AND, UH, AND, UH, ONE ISSUE WE WERE HAVING IS CONVEYING TO PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, LIKE THIS IS NOT, UH, UTOPIA AND I LOVE SAN ANTONIO, BUT NOT AREA IS THE SAME AS FAR AS SAFETY GOES.
AND SO WE TAKE, WE'VE TAKEN THE SAFE OFFICERS OUT TO LUNCH TWICE NOW, AND, UM, THEY'VE INFORMED US THIS IS A TOUGH, TOUGH, ROUGH AREA.
UM, KNOWN CARTEL, UM, GUNSHOTS AT NIGHT FROM THE PROJECTS ACROSS FROM THE CREEK.
UM, WE WATCH DRUG TRAFFICK, WE WATCH DRUG TRAFFICKING ON OUR SECURITY CAMERAS ON THE TELEPHONE POLE ALL DAY LONG.
UM, AND SO WE ARE TAKING A RISK INVESTING ANYWHERE.
IT'S GONNA BE FROM 500,000 TO A MILLION DOLLARS IN THIS, IN THIS, IN THIS, ON THESE TWO LOTS, WHICH IS, I, UH, I'LL REMIND YOU AS A TUR LOTS, I BELIEVE.
SO THE CITY'S WANTING THIS INVESTMENT TO COME IN HERE.
UM, AND, UH, WE'RE TAKING A RISK, BUT WE THINK IT'LL BE A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
AND THE NEIGHBORS WILL AGREE WITH YOU.
AND I, I APOLOGIZE, I THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF LETTERS SENT IN, IN, IN SUPPORT, BUT IT TURNS OUT WHEN WE DOOR KNOCKED, WE HIT 17 HOMES, ONLY TWO WERE OWNERS.
IT'S AN, IT'S LIKE A REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST RIGHT THERE.
SO THEY DIDN'T GET THE LETTERS.
THEY WENT TO HU TEXAS AND HOUSTON, UH, HOUSTON AND DALLAS.
UM, ONE, ONE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY PROFIT SHARING PLAN LLC.
UM, SO WE WE'RE, WE WERE CONCERNED AND STILL AM CONCERNED ABOUT DISRUPTING THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT, UM, THE, THE RENTERS DON'T SEEM TO HAVE, UM, ANY, UH, ANY CONCERNS WITH THIS PROJECT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND I HAVEN'T HAD ANY OF THE OWNERS, UM, REACH OUT TO ME OR SEND IN OPPOSITION LETTERS, UM, FOR THAT.
SO, UM, I'M SORRY, I'M NERVOUS.
UH, ANOTHER CONCERN FOR MS. MS. SANCHEZ WAS THAT, UH, SHE SAID ALL, UH, HOME AND I SPOKE WITH HER THIS MORNING.
UH, I SPOKE WITH HER THIS MORNING AND SHE SAID THAT, UM, UH, ALL THE HOMES ARE ZONED R FOUR.
AND THEN I WENT TO YOUR ONE STOP MAP AND IT'S LIKE A RAINBOW OF DIFFERENT ZONING.
AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE LEAST R FOUR AROUND US.
IT'S MOSTLY PARK CITY EASEMENT INDUSTRIAL.
AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CATTLE, THERE'S A CATTLE RECYCLING PLANT ABOVE US.
UM, SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A MOOT POINT.
AND THEN ALSO SHE SAID HER OTHER NUMBER, NUMBER TWO CONCERN WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA DO MAJOR DEVELOPMENT AND RAISE THE COSTS OF THE PROPERTY TAXES IN THE AREA.
AND HER NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T WANT TO BE FORCED OUT BECAUSE OF THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEIR MORTGAGE AND THEY INCREASED TAXES, BUT IT'S A PROFIT SHARING PLAN, LLCS THAT OWN EVERYTHING.
SO THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS A MOOT POINT.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ON THAT.
AND THEN I TRIED TO LOOK UP THE STAFF'S CONCERNS AND, UH, I THINK THEIR MAIN CONCERN WAS INCREASE ON THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND SO OUR LOGIC WHEN WE PICKED OUT THESE LOTS WAS IT'S ON A PENINSULA AND, UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY A CITY, UH, SORRY, THIS RIGHT HERE IS A PAPER STREET THAT CAN, THAT ALLOWS THE MOWERS TO GET BACK HERE TO THE CREEK TO MOW.
YEAH, SO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS A PAPER STREET.
UH, IT'S A NICE DISTINCT CUTOFF BETWEEN THE R FOUR ABOVE US AND THEN THE I TWO BELOW US.
AND SO, UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S SPOT ZONING.
WE HAVE A MF 33, WHICH IS, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE NEEDING TO BUILD THIS SIZE BEDROOM.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IDZ MEANT, BUT IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO GO WITH THAT TO BUILD THIS STRUCTURE, UM, FROM THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE SPOKE WITH.
I MEAN, WE ORIGINALLY WANTED TO DO BED AND
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BREAKFAST, JUST CHANGE THE LAND USE TO BED AND BREAKFAST, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK.'CAUSE THERE'S TECHNICALITIES IN THE RULES THAT STATE THAT WE WOULD END UP ONLY BEING ABLE TO RENT ONE ROOM OF THE, OF THE EIGHT BEDROOM HOUSE AS AS A BED AND BREAKFAST.
AND SO I CAN UNDERSTAND FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WHEN THEY SEE THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, I'M SURE IT'S VERY INTIMIDATING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING IS THE EXACT SAME THING WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO, OR ANYONE IS ALLOWED TO DO WITHOUT PERMISSION IS BUILD AN EIGHT BEDROOM SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
WE JUST NEED THE WARM AND FUZZY THAT THIS CAN FUNCTION AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
AND THEN TO, UH, SORRY, DID YOU DO, UM, COMMISSIONER DUELS POINT ON THE DONUT ASPECT? THAT'S, UM, THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN, BUT IT'S THIS, IN THIS SCENARIO, IT'S NEGATED BY MATT MORRIS STREET, WHICH IS A, A LAST MINUTE PULL OFF, UM, TO HELP PREVENT THAT CON CONGESTION.
UM, WHAT ELSE? OH, WE'RE IN TALKS WITH THE CITY, UH, ASSET REAL ESTATE ASSET MANAGER TO PURCHASE THIS STREET AND THE REST OF THIS TIP RIGHT HERE TO INCREASE OUR FOOTPRINT.
UM, AND THEN COULD YOU PULL UP THE SITE PLAN FOR ME ONE MORE TIME? PRETTY PLEASE.
SORRY, I'M CHEWING UP ALL MY 10 MINUTES.
SO WE ALSO ARE USING ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ON STREET PARKING ISSUES WHATSOEVER.
WE WANT TO BE AN EXCELLENT NEIGHBOR, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ON A PENINSULA DOWN HERE BY OURSELVES.
AND WE'RE IN TALKS ALSO WITH OUR NEIGHBOR UP HERE, UH, ON THIS LOT.
SHE SAID SHE HAS NO INTEREST IN, UM, SELLING BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN HER FAMILY FOR A HUNDRED YEARS.
BUT, UH, SHE'LL GIMME FIRST DIBS IF SHE'S EVER READY TO SELL.
SO, UH, AND SHE IS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
SO I'LL, I'LL BURN THROUGH THESE REAL FAST IN THE LAST 42 SECONDS.
UH, I BELIEVE SAN ANTONIO PLAN CALLS FOR INCREASED INFILL DENSITY IN DOWNTOWN.
THIS IS 1.1 MILES FROM THE ALAMO MAKING AN AMAZING PLACE FOR AN AIRBNB, UH, REMINDER, WE'RE LOCKED INTO A SITE PLAN.
THERE'S NO FLEXIBILITY FOR ANY, ANY OTHER CHANGES.
UH, THIS IS MILITARY CITY USA PERFECT FOR THIS CONCEPT.
BEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES TO, TO, TO DO THIS, UH, MAKING INVESTMENT IN THE TOUR ZONE.
NOTHING'S BEEN BUILT HERE FOR TWO DECADES.
UH, SO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT A SOLUTION.
AND, UH, THIS IS YEAR THREE OF TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND EVERYONE TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. LIVINGSTON.
WE DO HAVE VOICEMAILS AND ONE SPEAKER.
ALRIGHT, VOICEMAILS FIRST PLEASE.
HI, MY NAME IS LETICIA SANCHEZ.
MY ADDRESS IS 1710 BERA CRUZ, ZIP CODE SEVEN EIGHT TWO OH SEVEN, AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 363-5895.
I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF THE HISTORIC WESTSIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION REGARDING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26 FOR THE PROPERTY AT FOUR 11 AND FOUR 17 SOUTH SAN MARCOS.
OUR ASSOCIATION IMPOSES THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM R FOUR TO IDZ TWO.
THE BLOCK IN WHICH THESE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED CONSISTS OF PROPERTIES ALL ZONE R FOUR AS WELL AS THE BLOCK ADJACENT ON GRANITE.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT REACHED OUT TO OUR ASSOCIATION TO PROVIDE INFORMATION OF WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING FOR THIS PROPERTY.
AND WE ALSO HAVE NOT BEEN INFORMED OF WHAT STAFF ALTERNATE ZONING IS, UH, BEING RECOMMENDED.
ALTHOUGH THERE ARE NO HOUSES IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY, ALL OF THE OTHER HOUSES ON THE BLOCK ARE SINGLE FAMILY RE RESIDENCES THAT PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO OUR RESIDENTS.
WE ASK THAT YOU DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM R FOUR TO IDZ TWO.
YOU GOT, YOU GOT TWO MINUTES? WOO.
GENTLEMEN, INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
AH, YEAH, MY NAME'S MARTIN AND I LIVE AT 7 9 2 WOLF LANE.
AND, UH, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE, I JUST WANT TO G SORRY, MARTIN, YOUR LAST NAME AS WELL.
AND, UH, JUST TO GIVE THE WHOLE BACKBONE OF WHY WE WANNA DO THIS AS THE MILITARY WHEN WE GRADUATED AND OUR WHOLE FAMILY WAS PROUD, EVERYBODY CAME, MOM, GRANDMA, EVERYBODY.
IT WAS, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO AND WE ALL WENT TO A RESTAURANT AND THEN FROM THERE WE ALL HAD TO DISPERSE.
WE COULDN'T GO AND, UH, HANG OUT AND CHILL AND, YOU KNOW, JUST BE WITH FAMILY.
AND SO AS WE WERE TALKING, HE WENT THROUGH THE SAME THING AND AS WE WERE TALKING, WE'RE LIKE, HEY MAN, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT DREAM.
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ORDEAL FOR US.AND REALLY TO, TO TARGET, UH, OUR MILITARY FAMILY, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO THEM AS THE WAY THEY'VE INVESTED IN US.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING FOR US.
AND SO BEING ABLE TO HAVE ALL THEIR AUNTS AND UNCLES AND, AND EVERYBODY STAY WITH THEM AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, BECAUSE THEY GAVE US A BORDER, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN IN THE MILITARY, BUT WHENEVER THEY, THEY LIKE DRILLED IT IN, THEY SAID, YOU LEAVE FOUR 10 BORDERLINE, WE'LL WASH YOU BACK AND I'M NOT GONNA GO BACK AND DO THAT AGAIN.
SO THAT'S WHERE ALL THAT CAME FROM.
AND SO IT, IT'S WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
IT'S DOWN THE STREET FROM LACKLAND AND IT'S ALSO CLOSE TO THE ALAMO, WHICH GIVES EVERYBODY A GOOD, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO DO AND WHATNOT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT'S ALL COMING FROM AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG DREAM OF OURS TO DO THAT AND, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, BE SOMETHING PROUD OF.
THAT IS IT FOR THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALL RIGHT, MR. LIVINGSTON, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE IT, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU.
UM, IT WAS RELAYED TO ME THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND UH, THIS IS YEAR THREE.
UM, ALL THE IDEAS I PROPOSED IN THE PAST WERE, UM, NOT ACCEPTED.
AND THIS ONE OBVIOUSLY WASN'T AS WELL.
UH, BUT MY WIFE, UM, ON THIS RECENT ATTEMPT, MY WIFE DID SEND MULTIPLE EMAILS, UM, SCREENSHOTS IF YOU NEED THEM.
AND, UH, I SPOKE WITH HER THIS MORNING AND SHE SAID SHE COULDN'T EVEN FIND THOSE SEARCHING IN HER DATABASE.
AND THEN SHE TRIED TO EMAIL ME THE AGENDA AND SAID SHE COULDN'T, IT WAS GETTING RETURNED AND I, I SENT HER A SCREENSHOT OF AN EMAIL FROM, UH, MISS, UH, MR. GOMEZ, UH, SPELLING OUT MY EMAIL AND SHE COULD NOT GET THAT TO WORK.
SO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS SOME MISCOMMUNICATION THERE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. LIVINGSTON.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE.
UM, MINE'S GONNA BE HEAVY DISCUSSION, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, UH, QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT.
UM, COULD THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME UP? YES, MA'AM.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT YOU'RE, THIS IS NOT TO DO WITH ZONING, BUT ARE YOU AWARE THAT YOU ARE IN A SIGNIFICANT FLOOD ZONE MOST OF YOUR PROPERTY? YES, MA'AM.
UM, UH, SO THE, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE SCHOOL THAT DID A MAJOR RENOVATION JUST RECENTLY HAD SOMEBODY IN THE AREA HAD TO PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR A, UH, ENGINEERING STUDY TO HAVE THE, THE NEW HUNDRED YEAR FEMA PLAN IMPLEMENTED EARLY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
AND WHEN THEY DID THAT, IT PULLED IT OFF OF THE LOTS.
I KNOW THE MAP YOU'RE SHOWING IS THE OLD ONE AND IT'S TERRIFYING.
WHEN I FIRST SAW IT, I WAS LIKE, WHAT? BUT THERE IS A L MAR IN EFFECT THAT'S NOT SHOWING UP EXCEPT STORMWATER CAN'T SEE IT.
AND, AND, AND IT'S BEEN, I'VE GOT EMAILS VERIFYING FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
I MEAN, I EVEN CHECKED WITH THE HISTORIC SOCIETY LIKE, PLEASE AM I GOOD.
SO, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE CONCERN AND WATCHING MY SIX, NO PROBLEM.
UM, I, THE IDZ, UM, WOULD HELP YOU OUT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU COULD PUSH YOUR BOUNDARIES AWAY FROM THE FLOOD ZONE.
BUT, UM, IF YOU'RE FOR SURE GOOD ON THAT, ON YOUR FLOODPLAIN PERMIT, BECAUSE THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS I'D HAVE TO ASK STAFF, BUT IS THE SITE PLAN, UM, IF HE WANTED TO DO PARKING AND ELEVATE HIS LIVING ABOVE THAT, WOULD UM, HE NEED TO CHANGE HIS SITE PLAN? YES.
UM, I DON'T THAT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU, IF YOU'RE FOR SURE
BUT AS SOMEBODY WHO'S DEVELOPED IN THE FLOOD ZONE, UM, BASE FLOOD ELEVATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR HABIT.
YOU GUYS ARE, YOUR DEPARTMENTS ARE VERY STRICT AND, UH, RIGHTFULLY SO.
UM, BUT THE WAY THAT THE, THE, THERE'S AN, UH, PARK BEHIND ME ACTUALLY ALLOWED ME TO MOVE THE STRUCTURE BACK, UM, FURTHER THAN NORMAL THAN THE SETBACKS.
AND THEN, UM, THE, WITH THE ZONING, THE CRAZY ZONING THAT I HAVE ALL AROUND ME, THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE APPROVED ON ALL FOUR SIDES, WHICH IS UNHEARD OF APPARENTLY.
UM, BUT THAT'S HOW CRAZY THE ZONING IS NOT OUR FOUR, NOT FABRIC.
MY, MY NEIGHBOR HAS PRISON BARBED WIRE ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THE FRONT OF MY LOT WHEN I PULL OUTTA MY DRIVEWAY.
I SEE PRISON BARBED WIRE IN A 40 FOOT WAREHOUSE IN SPOOLS OF WIRE.
TH THIS IS NOT NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY HUGGY WORMY FABRIC.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT, COMMISSIONER KELLY? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PER SE, BUT I DO WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION.
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WE'RE GONNA GET THERE, I PROMISE.COMMISSIONER DBOL, UH, TO STAFF, UM, THE RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE FOR AN S FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST.
UM, W COULD YOU RESTATE OR, OR UM, UH, SUM SUMMARIZE FOR ME WHY YOU DIDN'T GO WITH THE, UH, REQUESTED ZONING IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION? BASICALLY WE FELT THAT THE MF 33 WOULD BE A DENSITY THAT IS OUT OF CHARACTER, UM, PLUS, UM, SO AGAIN, WE WANTED TO STICK WITH A LOWER DENSITY THAT, AND THEN WITH THE S FROM WHAT WE WERE GATHERED, A BED AND BREAKFAST WAS KIND OF HIS INITIAL THOUGHT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE LOOKING AT THE MF 18 S PLUS.
THERE ARE DENSITIES FOR BED AND BREAKFASTS.
SO LIKE WITH AN MF 33, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALLOWED 10, UM, ROOMS. MF 18, THEY'RE ALLOWED FIVE IF THEY WERE TO STAY WITH R FOUR 'CAUSE YOU COULD DO A BED AND BREAKFAST WITH A SPECIFIC USE ON AN R FOUR, BUT THEN YOU'D ONLY ALLOWED ONE UM, SPACE.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A, UM, COMPROMISE TO ALLOW THE USE BUT NOT, UM, ALLOW A DENSITY THAT SEEMED OUT OF CHARACTER.
UH, THE, UH, REQUESTED ZONING OF IDZ TWO WITH ALL USES ALLOWED IN MF 33.
WOULD THE REQUESTED ZONING EVEN ALLOW FOR A, UM, IT, IT'S BASICALLY LODGING, RIGHT? IT'S IT'S LEASED FROM FROM THE USE OF THAT.
I UNDERSTOOD ACTUALLY MAYBE THE, SORRY, LET, LET ME ASK THE APPLICANT THAT.
SO, UH, THE, THE IDEAS FOR LEASE LODGING, RIGHT? THAT FOR THE, UH, THE FAMILIES OF, UM, FOLKS GOING THROUGH IT AT LACKLAND, FOR THE FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO, TO PAY FOR SOMEWHERE TO STAY ON GRADUATION WEEKEND.
IT IS VERY COMMON FOR, UM, UH, MEMBERS TO RECRUIT, GET RECRUITED AND BECOME FRIENDS AND THEN THEIR FAMILIES WILL COME DOWN TOGETHER, EVEN LIKE BROTHERS AND SISTERS WILL JOIN AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE WANTED TO STATE VERY CLEARLY, THIS IS NOT A HOTEL, THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND ONLY ONE PERSON CAN BOOK THE PROPERTY AT A TIME AND WE'RE PLANNING ON IMPLEMENTING A WEAK MINIMUM.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 52 RENTS A YEAR, THAT'S IT.
AND EVERYONE KNOWS EACH OTHER.
THERE'S NO INDIVIDUAL LOCKS ON THE DOORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THIS IS COMPLETELY ALLOWED THE EXACT CONCEPT WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMIT AS IS NO QUESTIONS, NOTHING ASKED.
LIKE THERE'S NO RE NO, MAY I PLEASE DO THIS? YOU CAN DO IT.
BASED ON ALL MY RESEARCH, THE ONLY REQUEST HAPPENING HERE IS MAY I PLEASE NOT HAVE TO BEG MY NEIGHBOR TO SELL ME THE STR PERMIT THAT HE'S ALREADY SNAGGED UP.
'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE PER BLOCK FACE IN THIS 'CAUSE THERE'S SO FEW HOUSES THERE.
SO THAT'S ALL I'M DOING IS I'M SAYING, PLEASE, CAN I PLEASE RENT THIS AS AN AIRBNB EVEN THOUGH HE SNAGGED UP THE LAST PERMIT? I I HONESTLY HAVE TO, I'M NOT WITH THE STR TEAM, BUT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS THERE TO BE HONEST.
YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT THERE'S A NEW, THERE'S AN STR PERMIT ALREADY ON THE BLOCK FACE, BUT IF YOU WERE TO DO EIGHT OR MORE UNITS, YOU, YOU WOULD BE PERMITTED YOUR OWN STR BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE EIGHT UNITS, MEANING YOU COULDN'T RENT THE ENTIRE BUILDING, YOU COULD ONLY RENT ONE OF THE EIGHT UNITS.
SO IF YOU BUILT THE, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND I HAVE IT IN WRITING FROM THE SDR DEPARTMENT THAT I HAVE THEIR BLESSING TO DO THIS.
I THINK, I THINK THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, CONSIDERATIONS AT, AT PLAY HERE.
UH, WHICH IS ONE, FIRST OFF, AND I FORGOT TO ASK THIS QUESTION, UH, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE WE DO NOT ISSUE STR PERMITS ZONING IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THAT.
WHICH BRINGS ME, I BELIEVE TO MS. SANDERS POINT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MF 33, THOSE ARE UNITS SPECIFICALLY, RIGHT? 33 WOULD PERMIT UP TO 10 GUEST BEDS UP TO 10 BED AND BREAKFAST GUEST BEDS FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST.
SO IT WOULD BE EIGHT UNITS IF HE WERE TO DO JUST STRAIGHT UNITS.
BUT IF HE WAS TO GO WITH THE BED AND BREAKFAST USE, WHICH IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN AN MF 33, THEN HE'D BE ABLE TO DO 10 GUEST ROOMS, 10 GUEST ROOMS. BUT OKAY, SORRY, I'M I'M JUMPING OVER YOUR QUESTIONS.
NO, THIS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON.
THE MF THE PROPO OR THE, THE REQUESTED ZONING OF IDZ TWO WITH ALL USES ALLOWED IN
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MF 33, WOULD THAT ALLOW A BED AND BREAKFAST USE WITH 10 BEDS? CORRECT.SO THEN NOW I THINK I UNDERSTAND BETTER THE CONCERN STAFF'S CONCERN RECOMMENDING THE S IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF BEDS THAT COULD BE ALLOWED.
BUT THE, THE THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY 'CAUSE IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME WAS THAT UNDER THE REQUESTED ZONING OF IDZ TWO WITH ALL USES ALLOWED UNDER MF 33, THEY WOULD BY STAFF'S OPINION UNDER THAT REQUESTED ZONING BE ENTITLED TO A BY RIGHT.
A USE OF 10 BEDS FOR A, UH, BED AND BREAKFAST.
I I THINK FOR THE MF 33 THAT ALLOWS ONLY EIGHT UNITS, IT'S SO BED AND BREAKFAST IS SEPARATE FROM UNITS, UNITS BEING SEPARATE.
SO THE BED AND BREAKFAST WOULD BASICALLY HAVE ONE COMMON AREA, ONE KITCHEN, KIND OF ONE LIVING SPACE OR COMMUNAL AREA.
WHEREAS IF YOU WERE TO DO MF 33 AND HAD EIGHT SEPARATE UNITS, THEY WOULD HAVE SEPARATE KITCHENS, SEPARATE, UM, COMMUNITY AREAS, THAT KIND OF ITEM.
SO IF WE WERE TO DO MF 33 WITH THE S USE FOR BED AND BREAKFAST, AGAIN, YOU WOULD, YOU COULD DO UP TO 10 MF 18 HAVE THOSE SEPARATE UNITS, OR YOU COULD DO A BED AND BREAKFAST AND YOU WOULD HAVE UP TO FIVE GUEST ROOMS IF IT WERE MF 18.
BUT IF IT'S MF 33 WITH THE S IT AN S IS NOT NECESSARY FOR MF 33 S IS NOT NECESSARY.
THE, SO THE, THE REQUESTED ZONING OF MF 33
IT SAYS GUEST ROOMS, SO LET'S JUST FORGET BEDS.
IT WOULD ALLOW 10 GUEST ROOMS. MF 18 WOULD ALLOW FIVE GUEST ROOMS. THAT'S THE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE FACING.
THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM DWELLING UNITS DENSITY.
I AM ADDING THAT TO MY UDC LIST.
UH, 'CAUSE THERE ARE SOME DEFINITIONAL ISSUES WITH DWELLING UNITS AND UNITS AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO, TO LOOK AT IN ANY EVENT.
THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE GIVEN THAT DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER KELLY? QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, I ALREADY, I ALREADY WENT OVER HERE TO MY LEFT THIS TIME I'M LOOKING AND SAYING LEFT AND UH, THEY'RE CONSISTENT.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY INCONSISTENT WITH THE USE THAT IS IN PLACE ON THIS QUADRANT OF, YOU KNOW, NORTHEAST OF ALLON CREEK.
UH, THERE IS INDUSTRIAL THERE, THERE'S BEXAR COUNTY PRETRIAL SERVICES.
THERE ARE R FOUR THAT ARE EMPTY AND HAVE BEEN EMPTY FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
SO THE DENSITY IS A LITTLE OFF, BUT THIS IS WHERE I THINK IDZ BECOMES IMPORTANT.
IDZ BECOMES IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S TO INCENTIVIZE THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE CENTER CITY THAT CAN TRANSFORM A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I'M NOT DISMISSING, UH, THE MEANINGFUL CONCERNS REGARDING DISPLACEMENT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THIS BECOMES WILDLY SUCCESSFUL, WHICH I HOPE IT DOES, UH, BUT THOSE CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH SOMETHING OTHER THAN ZONING.
UH, MANY OF THE HOMES THAT ARE ON ADJACENT STREETS ARE EMPTY OR ARE EMPTY LOTS.
UH, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT HOMELESS POPULATION TO THE EAST AND NORTH.
UM, THERE'S PROBABLY BEEN, AND I BELIEVE MR. LIVINGSTON, YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER.
YOU CAN SIT DOWN, UM, SIGNIFICANT HOMELESS POPULATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY ALONG ALLON CREEK.
SO ALL OF THAT IS TO GET TO THIS POINT, THIS TO MY MIND IS NOT A TYPICAL ZONING CASE.
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A RESULT, I AM GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 26 AS SUBMITTED AND DO SO MOVE SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DUO.ALRIGHT, UH, QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT.
SEEING NONE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER KELLY? YEAH, I THINK MY COMMENT IS, I, YOU KNOW, I, WHEN I SAW THIS, UH, I LOOKED ON GOOGLE EARTH AT THIS LOCATION AND WHEN I SAW THE STAFF DENIED, I RECOMMENDED DENYING IT.
UH, I WANTED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHY.
AND WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I THINK THE WORD THAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS PENINSULA.
UH, JUST LIKE THE APPLICANT HAD STATED, UH, THIS IS A AREA THAT AT LEAST FROM GOOGLE EARTH AND I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO DRIVE OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT ON PER IN PERSON.
BUT LOOKING AT IT ON GOOGLE EARTH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SOMEWHAT SEPARATE FROM THE REMAINING AREA AND NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
AND THERE IS A INDUSTRIAL ACROSS THE WAY THERE NEARBY.
AND I, WHEN, WHEN I HEARD THE GENTLEMAN'S PROPOSAL FOR WHAT HE'D LIKED PROPERTY, UM, I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA.
I HAD A FRIEND WHO PASSED AWAY A FEW YEARS AGO, WAS ALWAYS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE RECRUITS THAT COME TO SAN ANTONIO AND THEY HAVE THE GRADUATION CEREMONIES AND THEN THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO REALLY BE PROPERLY ACCOMMODATED TO ENJOY WITH THEIR FAMILIES, UH, GRADUATION PROCESS AND SO FORTH.
THIS WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THAT.
SO JUST ON BEHALF HIM, I WOULD PUT IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE I THINK HE WOULD BE DELIGHTED, UH, THAT SOMEBODY WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE A REAL INNOVATIVE IDEA.
I THINK IT'S SEPARATED ENOUGH FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT.
THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M THINKING.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KELLY.
YES, COMMISSIONER DUBBO, UH, THE COMPATIBILITY OF SURROUNDING USES, UM, THE INDUSTRIAL, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, VACANT LOTS.
I I THINK THOSE ARE ALL REASONS WHY, UM, THERE'D BE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT A MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING PUT IN THERE, SERIOUS QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT THIS IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE A MULTIFAMILY.
UM, I THINK THE IDZ HELPS IN THAT REGARD, RIGHT? IF IT WAS JUST ZONING STRAIGHT MULTIFAMILY, THEN WE HAVE THE RU RUN THE RISK OF SOMEBODY PUTTING IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX NEXT TO THE INDUSTRIAL SITES.
BUT WITH THE IDZ, THAT'S NOT A RISK, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.
SO IN, IN THAT SENSE, I THINK THIS, THIS IS A, HE WOULD BE TIED TO THIS SIDE PLAN, RIGHT? SO THIS IN THAT INSTANCE SEEMS LIKE A, A PERFECT PLACE FOR IT.
UM, I WANNA APPLAUD THE PROJECT APPLICANT'S VERY PERSUASIVE PRESENTATION, WELL DONE.
UM, AND MAYBE THE CITY SHOULD CONSIDER INCENTIVIZING THESE KIND OF PROJECTS IN THIS PART OF THE TOWN TO HELP MAKE MORE PROJECTS LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE.
SO I'LL BE, OH, ALSO, JUST BECAUSE IT'S GETTING LATE, I DID UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT THE MOTION IS AS REQUESTED, RIGHT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THEN WITH THAT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION AND I DID SECOND IT AND, UH, THANK YOU.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION LEFT COMMISSIONER KELLEN? YEAH, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, I JUST, I, I THINK THE CAUSE IS NOBLE FOR SURE.
UM, AND I ALSO THINK THAT, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND YOU ALWAYS WANNA BE MINDFUL OF, YOU KNOW, PRICING PEOPLE OUTTA THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, I RARELY DO, I THINK PEOPLE TALK ABOUT INVESTING A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND SO THAT IN AND OF ITSELF FOR ME IS WHERE YOU GOT ME.
UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT CAUSE I THINK THAT AT SOME POINT PASSIVELY OR HAVING INVESTORS OWNED PROPERTIES AND NOT NECESSARILY DOING MUCH WITH IT OTHER THAN EXISTING, THAT CREATES A, A BIT OF A TIPPING POINT IN TERMS OF ALLOWING DEGRADATION IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO I THINK FOR YOU, THIS PURPOSEFUL INVESTMENT, THIS CHANGE IN, IN THE MOMENTUM OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOPEFULLY WE'LL CATCH ON.
IT WILL BE A HIT, BUT I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING TO DO.
AND SO DESPITE ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF CRIME AND INDUSTRIAL, UM, UM, BUSINESSES AROUND THERE, I THINK THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT CAN, CAN CHANGE THE DIRECTION.
AND I, AND I, I WISH YOU LUCK IN THAT ENDEAVOR.
SEEING NONE, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 26, UH, SUBMITTED BY MEEK SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VE ROLL CALL, VOTE CHAIR.
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YES.YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO GET THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, KEEP TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THERE'S JUST GOTTA KEEP DOING THE WORK.
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UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 16TH, 2025 ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES.ARE THERE ANY CHANGES, AMENDMENTS, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE MINUTES? COMMISSIONERS LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER KELLY? ANY CHANGES? NO SIR.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
WE WILL DO THIS BY ACCLAMATION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, SAY AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.
ALRIGHT, ANY ABSTENTIONS? ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES.
UM, ANY DIRECTOR'S REPORT TODAY? NO DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
IN THAT CASE, THE TIME IS 5 23 AND THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED.