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>> MAYOR JONES: ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 10:03 A.M. ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 21ST, 2026. AND THE MEETING OF THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL
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>> MAYOR JONES: FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
ARE THERE ANY CORRECTION OR AMENDMENTS FROM THE DECEMBER 11TH, 2025, MEETING? HEARING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO
APPROVE THE MINUTES. >> VIAGRAN: I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> MAYOR JONES: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE (ALL IN FRAY VOR SAY NO. ABSTENTIONS? MOTION PASSES. WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. EACH INDIVIDUAL WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THE FIRST PERSON IS JOHN HINOJOSA. JOHN HINOJOSA?
DARRELL GREER? >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JONES AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DARRELL GREER, AND I'M THE REGIONAL PROGRAM MANAGER TO OAST FROM AARP AND I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF THE SOUTH TEXAS ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES COMMUNITY BOARD.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO FOR A THOUGHTFUL POLICY PROPOSAL TO ENHANCE SENIOR PROTECTION. THE CCR'S EFFORT TO PROTECT AGAINST SENIOR EXPLOITATION AND FRAUD IS CRITICAL AND TIMELY.
FINANCIAL LOSSES DUE TO SCAMS HAVE REACHED A STAGGERING $16.6 BILLION NATIONALLY, WITH TEXAS RANKING SECOND WITH $1.3 BILLION IN LOSSES ACCORDING TO THE FBI. OATS CONTINUES TO RAISE AWARENESS AND EMPOWER OLDER ADULTS TO SAFEGUARD THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION AND SECURE THEIR FINANCIAL WELL-BEING. WE SUPPORT THIS PROPOSED EFFORT TO IMPROVE COMMUNITY INITIATIVES AND ENFORCEMENT TOOLS TO FURTHER PROTECT OLDER ADULTS. OAST REMAINS A COMMITTED PARTNER TO THE CITY AND IS READY TO OFFER RESOURCES AND NEEDED PROGRAMMING TO FURTHER PROTECT OUR OLDER ADULTS.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: THAT'S ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT
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HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM -- THE ACTION ITEMS THEN.CLERK, PLEASE READ THE CAPTION FOR ITEM 2. >> CLERK: ITEM NUMBER GO IS A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST FROM COUNCILMEMBER TERI CASTILLO, DISTRICT FIVE, ON ENHANCING SENIOR PROTECTION.
>> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. GREAT. COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO IS NOT HERE, BUT THERE IS A LETTER THAT SHE PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY SUPPORTS THE RECOMMENDATION BEING MADE.
OKAY. OVER TO STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION.
>> WOOSLEY: GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JONES AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I'M MELODY WOOLSLY, I'M PRESENTING ON THIS CCR AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS AFTER THE PRESENTATION. SO THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED ON DECEMBER THE THIRD, 2025 BY COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO AND ALSO SIGNED BY COUNCILMEMBERS KAUR, VIAGRAN, GALVAN AND MEZA GONZALEZ. THE CCR IDENTIFIES ENHANCEMENTS, EDUCATION AND AWARENESS ACTIONS TO FURTHER PROTECT OLDER ADULTS FROM EXPLOITATION AND ABUSE. THE CCR'S RECOMMENDED ACTIONS INCLUDE ENROLLING OLDER ADULTS IN FEDERAL AND STATE DO NOT CALL REGISTRIES, PROVIDING ACCESS TO LEGAL SERVICES, SUCH AS ASSIGNING TRUSTED GUARDIANS, CREATING LIVING WILLS AND OTHER LEGAL MATTERS THAT CAN HELP PROTECT FROM FRAUD AND ABUSE. PARTNERING WITH FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS ON QUICK FLAGGING OF SUSPICIOUS TRANSACTIONS, PROVIDING COMMUNITY-WIDE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH, AND REVIEWING THE CITY'S DOOR-TO-DOOR SOLICITATION ORDINANCE AND CODE FOR POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS.
DALLAS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A CITY THAT HAS IMPLEMENTED NONSOLICITATION IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR CODE. SO HUMAN SERVICES, SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER PARTNERS HAVE A NUMBER OF MEASURES ALREADY IN PLACE TO HELP PROTECT OUR OLDER ADULTS.
CURRENT INITIATIVES OFFERED AT OUR SENIOR CENTERS THROUGH HUMAN SERVICES, FINANCIAL COUNSELORS, BENEFIT NAVIGATORS AN PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDE ASSISTANCE IN ENROLLMENT OF DO NOT CALL
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REGISTRIES, REFERRALS TO ST. MARY'S LAW SCHOOL, TEXAS RIO GRANDE LEGAL AID AND CATHOLIC CHARITIES. AND IN MANY CASES A FINANCIAL COUNSELOR WILL GO WITH SENIORS TO THOSE APPOINTMENTS TO HELP THEM NAVIGATE. AND IN COORDINATION WITH SAPD, WE LAUNCHED A FRAUD AND SCAM AWARENESS CAMPAIGN IN DECEMBER AROUND THE HOLIDAYS WHEN THE NUMBER OF SCAMS TEND TO ESCALATE. THE CAM TAIN INCLUDED SOCIAL MEDIA, POSTS AND A KSAT INTERVIEW WITH SAPD AND DHS STAFF.THE CAMPAIGN IS ONGOING. AND SO SPECIFIC EDUCATION AND AWARENESS PROGRAMMING AT HUMAN SERVICES SENIOR CENTERS INCLUDES AN ARRAY OF MATERIALS, IN-PERSON TRAINING AND ACCESS TO RESOURCES ON ABUSE, FRAUD AND EXPLOITATION.
FINANCIAL COUNSELORS AND BENEFIT NAVIGATORS CONDUCT ONGOING TRAINING AND EDUCATION SESSIONS ON FINANCIAL SECURITY AS WELL AS AVOIDING DIFFERENT TYPES OF SCAMS. THEY ARE ALSO IN PLACE TO HELP SENIORS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING DIRECT IMPACTS FROM A SCAM.
TECHNOLOGY TRAINING AND EDUCATION INCLUDE PASSWORD PROTECTIONS, HOW TO BLOCK SCAM CALLS, INTERNET SCAMS AND SAFE ONLINE SHOPPING.
CLASSES ARE PRIMARILY PROVIDED BY OUR CONTRACTED PROVIDERS OASIS AND OATS. HUMAN SERVICES CONTINUES TO EXPAND PARTNERSHIPS IN THIS AREA WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALSO WORKING TO PROTECT OLDER ADULTS FROM ABUSE, FRAUD AND EXPLOITATION. THESE INCLUDE BEXAR COUNTY WITH THE ELDER FRAUD AND EXPLOITATION TASK FORCE, WHICH IS LEADING THE CREATION OF THE SENIOR JUSTICE ASSESSMENT CENTER. ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES HELPS TRAIN COSA STAFF AND OTHERS TO RECOGNIZE AND REPORT ELDER OR FRAUD AND ABUSE, AND THE NEXT STEP IN THIS PARTNERSHIP IS EXPANDING THE TRAINING TO CITY VOLUNTEERS AND PARTNER AGENCIES. AND WE ARE DEVELOPING PARTNERSHIPS WITH FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO IDENTIFY SUSPICIOUS FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS AND HELP VICTIMS OF ELDER FRAUD AND EXPLOITATION RECOVER. IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ELDER ABUSE SUBCOMMITTEE, HUMAN SERVICES IS IN THE PROCESS OF CONTRACTING FOR A LOCAL STATUS OF OLDER ADULTS REPORT TO IDENTIFY GAPS IN NEEDED RESOURCES THAT IMPROVE SENIOR WELL-BEING AND PROTECTION. WE WILL REPORT THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDED ACTIONS FROM THAT REPORT FOR REVIEW BY RELEVANT COMMITTEES, PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE, AS WELL AS COMMISSIONS. WITHIN OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2026 RESOURCES, WE DO PLAN TO FURTHER ALIGN WITH SAPD EFFORTS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO PROTECT OLDER ADULTS. THE ONGOING MARKETING CAMPAIGN I MENTIONED EARLIER REACHES BEYOND OUR CENTERS TO PROVIDE WARNINGS AND INFORMATION TO SENIORS COMMUNITY-WIDE.
AND DEVELOPMENT OF A SENIOR RIGHTS AND RESOURCE PROTECTION GUIDE FOR DISTRIBUTION TO MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY.
WE WILL WORK WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND CITY ATTORNEYS' OFFICE TO REVIEW THE CURRENT CITY'S SOLICITATION ORDINANCE AND CODE FOR POTENTIAL UPDATES THAT WILL REFLECT THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT OF OLDER ADULT SCAMS AND EXPLOITATION, AND WE WILL LEVERAGE OUR CITIES FOR FINANCIAL EMPOWERMENT, LEGACY PLANNING AND ONLINE WILLS CREATION PROGRAM TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO LEGAL SERVICES FOR OLDER ADULTS. OUR SENIOR CENTERS ARE PROTECTIVE BY VIRTUE OF THE PROGRAM SERVICES AND COMPANIONSHIP THEY OFFER. WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOCUS THOSE SENIOR SERVICES, RESOURCES, PARTNERSHIPS AND EXPERT STAFF ON REDUCING OLDER ADULTS ISOLATION, WHICH WE KNOW IS -- HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OLDER ADULT WELL-BEING AND MAKES THEM MORE VULNERABLE TO ABUSE AND EXPLOITATION.
AS NEXT STEPS, WE RECOMMEND FORWARDING THE ACTIONS RECOMMENDED IN THIS CCR TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ELDER ABUSE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND POTENTIAL INCLUSION IN EXISTING EFFORTS.
WE WILL IMPLEMENT THOSE PROGRAM ENHANCEMENTS THAT ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN OUR FY '26 RESOURCES, PROVIDE ONGOING UPDATES TO THE ELDER ABUSE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THIS IMPLEMENTATION AND ON THE STATUS OF THE SENIOR STUDY.
ADDITIONALLY, WE WILL DEVELOP COST ESTIMATES FOR EXPANDING FINANCIAL SECURITY FRAUD AWARENESS AND LEGAL ASSISTANCE BEYOND OUR SENIOR CENTERS
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AND WHILE WE CAN STRETCH AND DO MORE WITH WHAT WE HAVE, WE CAN'T PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICES TO FINANCIAL, LEGAL, TECHNOLOGY AND AWARENESS TO THE ENTIRE ADULT COMMUNITY. WE ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEMAND IS AND SO CIRCLING BACK TO DOING THE STATUS OF OLDER ADULT STUDY WILL HELP US IDENTIFY AND PRIORITIZE THESE GAPS.THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR JONES: WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE FEEDBACK FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS. IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SO WE MAY BEGIN DISCUSSION? OKAY.
COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU TO COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO, I KNOW YOU'RE WATCHING, PROBABLY AND I SEE SOME OF HER STAFF IN THE AUDIENCE FOR FILING THE CCR AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO US. I WILL BE SUPPORTING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY AND I'LL PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF, I GUESS, BACKGROUND ON MY INTERPRETATION OF HOW WE GOT HERE.
SEVERAL MONTHS AGO -- PRIOR TO THE COMMITTEE BEING ESTABLISHED, THE MAYOR'S CHARGE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE INCLUDED COUNCILWOMAN KAUR APPOINTING MEMBERS TO TWO SUBCOMMITTEES, ONE OF BEING THE ELDER ABUSE SUBCOMMITTEE. I'M HONORED TO GET TO SERVE ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. WE MET A FEW TIMES TO DISCUSS A PLETHORA OF ISSUES, THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS UNDER THE BUCKET OF ELDER ABUSE THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS FROM HOUSING TO FINANCES TO EVERY TYPE OF FAKE SERVICE THAT EXISTS IN THE WORLD. AND WE ULTIMATELY ENDED UP WITH -- THERE'S GOING DISCUSSION, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF EFFORTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE, BOTH WITHIN THE CITY, THE COUNTY AND WITHIN A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO -- WE WANTED A FULL SORT OF ANALYSIS OF WHAT IS BEING DONE OUT THERE AND ARE THERE GAPS THAT ARE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED, AND THAT WOULD INVOLVE WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS SUCH AS MANY OF OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS AND THE FOLK WHO WERE LISTED IN SOME OF THESE SLIDES HERE.
AND WHEN IT CAME TO COUNCIL, I REMEMBER THE -- WHEN IT CAME TO THE COMMITTEE, OUR FEEDBACK, I REMEMBER THE COUNCILWOMAN EXPRESSING A LITTLE BIT OF DISMAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT FEELS LIKE ANOTHER STUDY THAT'S HAPPENING AND WE DO A LOT OF STUDIES AND THEN PEOPLE DISREGARD THOSE STUDIES AND NEVER IMPLEMENT THE ACTUAL POLICIES.
I DO DISAGREE PRETTY GREATLY WITH THAT. I THINK THERE'S BEEN A HISTORY OF THAT, SURE, BUT I DO THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS A COUNCIL AND A BODY THAT RELIES VERY HEAVILY ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF EXPERTS AND OF THOSE WHO ARE TASK FORCES AND WHATNOT.
AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO RECOMMENDATIONS IN A NUMBER OF POLICY -- A NUMBER OF CCRS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO CREATE TASK FORCES IN WHICH FOLK GET TOGETHER, MEET IN A FORTNIGHT, DISCUSS AN ISSUE, COME UP WITH SOME GAPS, COME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, IT'S THE SAME THING JUST A LITTLE BIT FORMAL AND A LITTLE BIT -- FORWARD TO THIS SPECIFIC ITEM AND SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S FAIRLY SIMPLE TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN LAID OUT, BUT FOR THE REST, I LOOK FORWARD TO ROLLING THEM INTO THE LARGER DISCUSSION AND LNL AND I APPRECIATE THAT IN READING ALL OF THESE SLIDES, I SEE ALL OF THE -- A LOT OF THE EFFORTS THAT ARE BEING DONE AND WE CAN SEE HOW WE WOULDN'T WANT TO BE DUH PLIKTIVE IN SOME OF THOSE THINGS. AND SO HOW DO WE BEST UTILIZES THE RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING USED TODAY, THE EFFORTS BEING DONE TODAY AND WHAT ARE THE TRUE GAPS, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN? >> VIAGRAN: I SIGNED THE CCR, I THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS; HOWEVER, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO ON -- I WAS WORKING WITH SAPD BACK IN 2011 WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT ELDER ABUSE, AND THIS WAS ELDER ABUSE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND WE WENT THERE AND WE WERE LIKE, OH, LET'S DO THIS.
THEY -- YOU KNOW, WE JUST KEEP ON HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATIONS.
AND I APPRECIATE THE TASK FORCE THAT ARE CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED, BUT I HAVE BEEN WAITING OVER 15 YEARS FOR THEM TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AS SENIORS AND I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO SEE IS MORE POINTED ACTION, WHICH I THINK THE COUNCILWOMAN HAS HERE, BUT I DO WANT TO SEE THE COMMITTEE GIVE THEIR -- THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE GIVE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS; HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE SESSION AS WE GO UP TO THE STATE NEXT YEAR OR -- IT JUST FEELS
LIKE -- >> NEXT YEAR ALREADY. AS WE GO UP NEXT YEAR TO REALLY HONE ON THESE
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PEOPLE THAT ARE PREDATORS OF OUR SENIORS. IF I HAVE TO WALK INTO THE SENIOR CENTER ONE MORE TIME AND HEAR A STORY ABOUT HOW SOMEONE CAME INTO THEIR HOUSE AND THEN WHILE THEY WERE SHOWING THEM AROUND BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY COULD HELP FIX THIS, SOMEONE WALKED IN AND ROBBED, I WILL BE -- IT'S JUST VERY FRUSTRATING. AND WE DO WHAT WE CAN, AND THEN THIS ISN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT ONLINE AND THE 200, $300 THEY'RE USING. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS, I THINK WE CAN IMPLEMENT THEM, BUT I THINK THE TIME IS NOW AND I THINK WE NEED TO SET REAL GOALS FOR THE JOINT COMMISSION ON ELDERLY AFFAIRS AND THE BEXAR COUNTY TASK FORCE THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, BECAUSE IF NOT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TALK AND CONTINUE TO TALK ON THIS ISSUE. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND EFFORT AND I DO HOPE TO SEE RESULTS SO THAT WE CAN TAKE LEGISLATION UP NEXT YEAR OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO IMPLEMENT TO PROTECT OUR SENIORS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MUNGIA?>> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO FOR SIGNING THIS, COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
WE HAVE PARTNERS THAT ARE ABLE TO PUT RESOURCES IN AND WORK ON THIS.
[INDISCERNIBLE] IS HERE, AARP, GONZABA FOUNDATION SO I THINK IT SHOULDN'T TAKE TOO LONG TO FIGURE THIS OUT. WE KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE, WE NEED TO MOBILIZE RESOURCES AND GET IT OUT THERE.
I THINK SCAMS ARE BECOMING BETTER AND BETTER UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE THINGS I HAVE TO LOOK AT, A SECOND LOOK ON MY PERSONAL E-MAILS, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOTTEN SO MUCH BETTER WITH TECHNOLOGY AND GRAPHICS. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PLACES TO PLUG IN ALREADY WITH OUR SENIOR CENTERS AND PLACES, NUTRITION SITES, AND I ALSO AGREE, WE DO HAVE TO DO BETTER WITH OUR ESTABLISHED JOINT COMMISSION.
I TALKED TO MELODY ABOUT THIS RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE MEMBERS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT BEING UTILIZED AS MUCH AS THEY COULD BE WITH THEIR OWN BACKGROUNDS AND RESUMES, SO WE NEED TO REALLY HAVE THEM BE AT THE CENTER OF THIS AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN ALSO PRESENT TO COUNCIL OR A SUBCOMMITTEE ON THEIR WORK AND THEIR GOALS, RIGHT? I THINK THE HOUSING COMMISSION IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THEY PUT OUT A REPORT, THEY COME AND THEY COME TALK TO US, THEY EVALUATE POLICIES FOR US AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT WITH THE JOINT COMMISSION ALSO. THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE THAT EXISTS AND I THINK THEY'RE BEING UNDERUTILIZED CURRENTLY. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE TASK FORCE AND GETTING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OUT THE DOOR QUICKLY.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: MELODY, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND LAYING OUT ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE MANY OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE EXTEND OR EXPAPPED, RIGHT, SO DOING A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, I THINK, JUST A FOOT STOP THE COMMENTS HERE.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE DUH PLIKTIVE OF THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. AND WHEN WE SAY BETTER PARTNER WITH FBI, I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY IT IS WE'RE PARTNERING TO DO.
WHAT IS OUTSTANDING FOR ME IN THIS PRESENTATION, THOUGH, AND EVEN IN THE MATERIALS THAT I REVIEWED BEFORE I ASKED COUNCILWOMAN KAUR, WHO JUST WALKED IN -- PERFECT TIMING -- COUNCILWOMAN KAUR TO STAND UP THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON ELDER ABUSE, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF METRICS.
WE HAVE ACTION METRICS, RIGHT? WE DID THIS, WE DID THAT. IT'S NOT CLEAR, THOUGH, HOW WE UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT RIGHT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW WE UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THESE EF EFFORTS AND THE AGGREGATE ARE MOVING US IN THE EFFORT THAT WE WANT TO GO.
NOW TO THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN MUNGIA JUST MADE, THE BAD GUY TACTICS ARE ALSO IMPROVING AS WE MODIFY OUR OWN APPROACHES TO HELPING OUR SENIORS.
BUT SOME UNDERSTANDING OF METRICS THAT HELP US UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY WHAT WE'VE DONE, BUT HOW IT HAS HELPED IMPROVE THE SITUATION WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY AS WE GET INTO BUDGET SEASON, RIGHT? I MEAN -- ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SAVING MONEY BY NOT FILLING POSITIONS.
AND SO IF WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER COST SAVINGS AS WE GO INTO FY '27, REALLY HAVING THE DATA THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND HOW THIS CONTINUES TO BE THE BEST INVESTMENT OF THOSE RESOURCES VERSUS, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, LEANING ON SOME OF THE OTHER PARTNERS, LEANING ON AARP, CERTAINLY HAS HAD RESOURCES THERE -- THAT HAVE RESOURCES THAT WE COULD PARTNER WITH TO DO SOME OF THIS VERY IMPORTANT WORK.
OR FRANKLY, GET A CORPORATE SPONSOR TO HELP US DO SOME OF THIS WORK.
IT DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO COME FROM OUR GENERAL FUND.
BUT I THINK PART OF THAT, HAVING A REALLY GOOD CASE FOR THEM, STARTS WITH THE METRICS, RIGHT? HEY, WE'VE SEEN, RIGHT, YOU KNOW, CORPORATION X, THESE ARE THE TOP FIVE THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT REALLY ARE MOST BENEFICIAL TO OUR SENIORS. THAT'S THE COINED OF THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW WE
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CAN BETTER -- MOST EFFICIENTLY UTILIZE OUR TIME AND RESOURCES.CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THE POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE'RE ALSO BEING THOUGHTFUL IN WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS NEED TO BE AT THE STATE LEVEL, SO I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT. BUT LET ME GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER, DO WE HAVE SOME KIND OF ASSESSMENT THAT AT THIS POINT HELPS US UNDERSTAND HOW THE AGGREGATE OF THIS WORK IS IMPROVING THE
SITUATION? >> WOOSLEY: WE HAVE ASSESSMENTS ON HOW SENIORS ARE FAIRING FROM THE SENIOR CENTERS BASED ON THE PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER. SO WE DO SURVEYS, WE DO -- IF YOU PARTICIPATED IN FITNESS CLASSES OR YOU'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN OUR MEAL PROGRAM, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR WELL-BEING HAS IMPROVED, YOUR HEALTH HAS IMPROVED. IT'S MOSTLY SURVEY DRIVEN AND BASED ON HOW THE SENIORS ARE FEELING, IF THEY FEEL THEY'RE IMPROVING.
THAT'S -- THOSE ARE THE -- REALLY THE METRICS AROUND THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING THERE. WE ALSO, OF COURSE, COUNT THE NUMBER OF MEALS WE SERVE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PARTICIPATING, AND THEN THE OUTCOME IS REALLY BASED ON THEIR RESPONSES. NOW, I KNOW SAPD DOES COLLECT DATA AROUND THE SCAMS THAT THEY'RE PURSUING OR THE COMPLAINTS THAT THEY RECEIVED, SO WE HAVE THAT AS WELL.
BUT WE CAN WORK ON -- YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE DOING THE FINANCIAL COUNSELING IN THE SENIOR CENTERS, WE HAVE INFORMATION ON HOW MANY SENIORS WE'VE PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, REALLY INDIVIDUALIZED SERVICES TO, WHO MAYBE HAVE COME TO US BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A SCAM AND NEED ASSISTANCE. SO WE'RE COLLECTING ALL OF THOSE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE END RESULT, AS FAR AS DID WE HELP THE SENIOR ACHIEVE FINANCIAL STABILITY, REDUCE THEIR DEBT, MAYBE STAY HOUSED, SO WE DO COLLECT THOSE AS
WELL. >> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. JUST KIND OF PLAYING THIS OUT, RIGHT, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE -- WE DON'T HAVE ENDLESS RESOURCES.
AND SO I'M TRYING TO JUST HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE AND IN THE SPIRIT AND THE INTENT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE HERE, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, RIGHT, INCREASING USE OF FEDERAL AND STATE DO NOT CALL REGISTRIES WITH PARTICIPANT PERMISSION, US DEDICATING, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY TOWARD THAT, WHICH MAY, IN FACT, BE, THE THING THAT MOVES THE NEEDLE THE MOST, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. DO WE HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING -- IF WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE WHEN WE INCREASE THIS, RIGHT, BY 10%, WE ACTUALLY SEE A DECREASE IN NUMBERS TO SAPD BY X PERCENT, RIGHT? IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THE CORRELATION BETWEEN OUR ACTIVITIES AND THE IMPACT THAT WE ARE DESIRING TO SEE IN THE COMMUNITY. I'D WELCOME YOU WORKING WITH -- IF IT'S CRAIG ON THE I.T. SIDE, SOMEBODY THAT HELPS US, ERIK, UNDERSTAND HOW WELL THESE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY WORKING AND IT MAKES US FEEL GOOD, FOR SURE.
I'M ZERO JUST NOT SURE IT'S MOVING THE NEEDLE. AND IF IT IS, THAT'S GREAT, BUT WE'D JUST LOVE TO SEE IT. WHAT IS THE CONTRACT THAT
WE HAVE WITH OATS. >> WOOSLEY: 500,000. >> MAYOR JONES: THIS IS
DIGITAL LITERACY, IS THAT RIGHT? >> WOOSLEY: YES.
AND THEY'RE IN ALL OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE SENIOR CENTERS.
>> MAYOR JONES: UH-HUH. UH-HUH. OKAY.
OKAY. CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE SENIOR JUSTICE ASSESSMENT CENTER? THAT WAS A KEY -- IT'S
REFERENCED HERE ON THE SLIDE. >> WOOSLEY: YES.
SO THE SENIOR JUSTICE ASSISTANCE CENTER IS BEING FOUNDED THROUGH A GRANT THAT BEXAR COUNTY RECEIVED. IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL FACILITY. IT'S A WAY TO BRING MULTI -- YOU KNOW -- MULTI NUMBER OF SECTORS TOGETHER TO PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE, BUT I AM GOING TO HAVE JESSICA MAYBE GIVE MORE DETAIL BECAUSE SHE IS MORE
FAMILIAR WITH IT. >> SO AS MELODY MENTIONED, BEXAR COUNTY DID RECEIVE A GRANT. THEY UPDATED THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IN DECEMBER, MID DECEMBER, RELATED TO THAT GRANT. IT IS FUNDING STAFF, SO THEY HAVE A MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM THAT WORKS WITH OTHER CROSS-SECTOR PARTNERS THAT INCLUDES SAPD AND HUMAN SERVICES STAFF AS WELL AS ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES, NO NONPROFIT PARTNERS, LEGAL SERVICES, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND REALLY THE GOAL IS TO CASE MANAGE, SO THEY'RE BRINGING INDIVIDUAL INSTANCES OF INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN TARGETED FOR EXPLOITATION, SCAMS OR HAD ■SOMEOTHER IMPACT, AND TRYING TO TRIAGE AND RESOURCE NEXT STEPS INDIVIDUALLY BY CASE BY
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CASE. SO THAT IS ONGOING. IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN DECEMBER. SO THE GROUP IS REALLY FROM THE ELDER FRAUD AND ABUSE TASK FORCE, THE ONE KIND OF LEADING THE CHARGE WITH IT, AND THEY'RE JUST NOW LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL CASES, BUT DHS HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THAT GROUP, EVEN PREGRANT TO TRIAGE INDIVIDUAL CASES THAT WE'RE HAVINGCOME UP THROUGH THE SENIOR CENTERS. >> MAYOR JONES: AND
THAT'S A GROUP THAT'S FUNCTIONING TODAY? >> IT IS FUNCTIONING
TODAY. >> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS -- YOU KNOW, ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE NEWSLETTERS, MELODY, RIGHT? WE ALL HAVE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS, WE ALL WANT TO BE RESOURCES TO BE HELPFUL HERE. SO HOWEVER WE CAN BE HELPFUL ON THE COMMS PIECE AS WELL, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF MY OTHER FOLLOW ON ASK IT MOVES TO THE SAFETY COMMITTEE, HOW ARE WE UTILIZING THE COMMUNICATION COUNCILMAN CHANNELS TO EXPLAIN WHAT THESE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE AND WHAT THEY PROVIDE. I'M NOT SURE IF FOLKS ARE TRACKING THAT ONE. WE DID SOMETHING ACTUALLY IN DISTRICT THREE WHERE THE FBI PERSON CAME AND TALKED ABOUT THAT WONDERFUL RESOURCE, RIGHT, BUT THIS ONE HAD NO IDEA IT WAS UP AND RUNNING UNTIL I READ YOUR MEMO. SO WE NEED TO -- JUST HELP US HELP YOU GET THE
WORD OUT. >> WOOSLEY: RIGHT. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE KEEP YOU UPDATED, THE SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATED AND CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT GROUP AND STAY VERY CLOSE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING.
>> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. AND I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MUNGIA'S RECOMMENDATION, COUNCILMAN, THAT THE JOINT COMMISSION JOIN THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND PROVIDE SOME UPDATE ON THEIR WORK.
SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
OH, DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YEP.
GO AHEAD. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: YEP, JUST IN HOPES TO ASSUAGE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN HAD MENTIONED, IT'S SLIDE SIX IN HERE BUT IT READS AS SLIDE 9 IN THE SLIDE SHOW, A PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD AT THE SUBSUBCOMMITTEE LEVEL WAS OUR JURISDICTION AND THE AUTHORITY THAT WE HAVE AND MANY OF THE STATE LAWS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED OR WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS REVIEWING LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY AND POTENTIAL CODE UPDATES.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: TO PUT A FINER POINT ON THE THING THAT WILL MOVE TO COMMITTEE, THOUGH, RIGHT, WHEN YOU COME WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO ALSO IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THAT, I.E., NOT THE GENERAL FUND.
>> WOOSLEY: PARTNERS. >> MAYOR JONES: PARTNERS, COLLABORATION, THAT'S RIGHT, SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY. OKAY.
SO THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE MODIFICATIONS IDENTIFIED HERE. PLEASE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? (EYES). >> MAYOR JONES: ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. THE MOTION PASSES.
. >> WOOSLEY: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE CAPTION FOR THE NEXT ITEM.
>> CLERK: ITEM NUMBER 3 IS A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST BY COUNCILMEMBER DR. SUKH KAUR, DISTRICT ONE, ON COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AGREEMENT OVERSIGHT COMMISSION. >> MAYOR JONES: GREAT.
STAFF PRESENTATION. >> GORZELL: GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. SO THIS ITEM IS A CCR REQUEST BY COUNCILWOMAN KAUR IN DISTRICT ONE. IT REQUESTS A ACCOMPLISHMENT OF A COMMUNITY BENEFITS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UNDER THE TERMS SHEET APPROVED WITH THE SPURS LAST SUMMER FOR A NEW DOWNTOWN ARENA, THE SPURS WOULD CONTRIBUTE $2.5 MILLION ANNUALLY OVER 30 YEARS FOR A TOTAL OF $75 MILLION. THOSE PAYMENTS RUN CONCURRENT WITH THE LEASE TERM OF THE NEW ARENA. IF THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD AS PLANNED, THAT WOULD BEGIN IN ROUGHLY 23.
2032. THE TERM SHEET ALSO OUTLINES THE ALLOCATIONS AND FUNDS USED BY THE CITY WOULD BE BASED ON A PROCESS TO BE DEVELOPED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE PART OF THAT PROCESS AND THEY WOULD BE TASKED WITH PROVIDING FORMAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON THOUGH THE FUNDS WOULD BE SPENT ON COMMUNITY BENEFITS. THE COMMITTEE MAKEUP IS PROPOSED HERE ON THIS SLIDE. IT INCLUDES APPOINTMENTS FROM EACH COUNCILMEMBER AND THE MAYOR. IT'S GOT SOME RECOMMENDED CATEGORIES HERE FOR MEMBERS OF THE DOWNTOWN AND EAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOODS, HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION ADVOCATES, LABOR REPRESENTATIVES AND HOSPITALITY REPRESENTATIVES.
IT WOULD INCLUDE ONE REPRESENTATIVE POINTED BY THE SAN ANTONIO SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ALSO ONE REPRESENTATIVE APPOINTED BY BEXAR COUNTY
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COMMISSIONS COURT. THE COMMITTEE WOULD ALSO INCLUDE SOME ADVISORY REPRESENTATION. THAT REPRESENTATION WOULD COME FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE STAFF IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, A STAFF REPRESENTATIVE FROM BEXAR COUNTY AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM SPURS SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT. SOME CONSIDERATIONS HERE ARE WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO COORDINATE OUR EFFORTS WITH THE COUNTY, OUR PARTNERS, THE COUNTY, THE SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE SPURS, IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH THIS COMMITTEE.ONCE ESTABLISHED, THE COMMITTEE COULD THEN ESTABLISH ITS PROCEDURES IN TERMS OF HOW OFTEN IT MEETS, WHAT THE GOALS OF THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE AND HOW IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT AND FORMAL RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE STAFF -- CITY STAFF WILL ASSIST IN COORDINATING WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ASSISTING AND HOSTING PUBLIC FORUMS AND ESTABLISHING PRIORITIES FOR THE CBA PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE LEASE ON THE ARENA.
SO THE NEXT STEPS WOULD INCLUDE A RECOMMENDATION GUIDED BY THE CCR WHERE WE DEVELOP THE PROCESS AND PLANS AND TIMELINES TO CREATE THE COMMITTEE.
WE WOULD INCLUDE THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE CITY DEPARTMENT OR LIAISON BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE, BEGIN THE PROCESS TO IDENTIFY REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE COMMITTEE, AND THEN EVALUATE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AS WE GO FORWARD THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
WE WOULD ALSO CONSIDER ENGAGING A CONSULTANT -- I KNOW THIS WAS DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK AT B SESSION, -- WE COULD ENGAGE A CONSULTANT OR GROUP THAT'S GOT SOME EXPERTISE OR EXPERIENCE IN COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENTS THAT COULD ASSIST AND ADVISE AS WE WORK OUR WAYS THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THAT IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
COUNCILWOMAN KAUR IS HERE AS WELL. YOU'VE GOT THREE MINUTES
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAYING SMED. >> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCL. THIS REQUEST REALLY CAME FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT JOINED US IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS THAT WE HAD LAST SUMMER WHERE THEY FELT LIKE THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE PROVIDING INPUT ON THE SURVEY. THAT SURVEY DID SHOW SOME PRIORITY AREAS THAT FOLKS WANTED TO SPEND THESE DOLLARS ON BUT THERE WASN'T REALLY ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE, IT WAS MORE OF AN INFO SESSION VERSUS REAL TRUE ENGAGEMENT. SO THE GOAL FOR THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH COMMUNITIES TO HELP NIRG OUT WHAT PRIORITIES ARE TO HOW TO SPEND THESE DOLLARS.
THE REASON WE WANTED TO START THIS NOW AND NOT WHEN THE DEAL WAS DONE WAS BECAUSE WE THINK TRUE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TAKES TIME AND THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR SEVERAL -- POTENTIALLY SEVERAL YEARS OF LEADUP TO THE ACTUAL ALLOCATION OF THOSE DOLLARS. WE SHARED THIS POTENTIAL CCR WITH A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS, WITH OUR COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, RECEIVED FEEDBACK ON THE TYPES OF FOLKS TO BE INCLUDED.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT WHY WE INCLUDED THE COUNTY, AND I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH SEVERAL OF YOU ALL, AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CBA'S BEING OVERSEEN AS A PART OF THE CITY TERMS SHEET, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD.
SO HAVING THEM HAVE ONE SEAT VERSUS OUR 11, I DON'T THINK GIVES THEM MAJORITY, BUT AT LEAST SHOWS THEM THAT WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH THEM AND WORK TOGETHER ON MAKING SURE THAT OUR CBA ADDRESSES ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT WAS THE SIMILAR IDEOLOGY FOR SAISD.
WE ARE THE -- THE NEW STADIUM'S GOING TO BE LOCATED IN SAISD, FROST BANK CENTER IS IN SAISD, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REACHING OUT TO OUR PARTNERS AND WORK WITH THEM AND MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION. AS FAR AS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I DO BELIEVE THAT IF YOU ALL FEEL LIKE A CONSULTANT IS NECESSARY TO HELP PROVIDE SOME STRUCTURE FOR THE AGREEMENT, I THINK THERE IS A CONCERN ACROSS THE COUNTRY ABOUT HOW AGREEMENTS ARE EXECUTED AND MAKING SURE THAT YEAR OVER YEAR THOSE FUNDS ARE RECEIVED AND THEN PROVIDED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN THE RESULTS OF THOSE FUNDS ARE PRESENTED BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. SO I THINK THAT MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT SIGNED ON TO THIS AGREEMENT AND HOPE THAT WE CAN SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DIDN'T FINISH LAST SUMMER WHEN WE FINISHED THAT FIRST ROUND OF ABLE CITY, BUT WE'LL BE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO EXPEND THE $75 MILLION IN THE PRIORITIES OF THE
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: OKAY.
IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SO
WE MAY BEGIN DISCUSSION? >> MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THAT? YOU NEED A SPECIFIC DATE,
THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. >> VIAGRAN: I SECOND THAT
MOTION. >> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. OKAY.
THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE THE ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT
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GOVERNANCE MEETING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDESOME -- OKAY. GO AHEAD. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I WANT TO CONVEY TO THE COUNCILWOMAN THAT I APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT OF THE CCR, I DON'T WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH IT, RIGHT, AND I WANT TO GET TO A POINT OF FULL ACCEPTANCE, BUT I ALSO WANT TO HAVE MAYBE A GREATER DISCUSSION BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING ABOUT -- I GUESS ONE OF THE PRIMARY CHALLENGES I HAVE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE -- WE DON'T HAVE AN EXECUTED CONTRACT RIGHT NOW, SO WE DON'T -- THERE'S A -- WE DON'T HAVE A CBA. THERE'S -- IT'S IN THE AIR, THERE'S $75 MILLION AS A TERM. I REALLY -- I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED AND EXPECTED WAS THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MEANINGFUL INPUT TO THE TERM SHEET, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WAS DONE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE GOAL TO RECTIFY THAT WITH THIS AND WITH THE $75 MILLION, BUT I DO STRUGGLE WITH -- AND SOME OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY IS, IS IT GOING TO -- REALLY HAVE A COMMISSION OF 15, 16 PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT 2.5 -- $2.5 MILLION RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN CITY COUNCIL'S PRIORITY BEING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. AND SO I -- I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S ANOTHER -- I WONDER IF THERE'S A MEANS TO ACHIEVE THE LEVEL OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT TAKES A DIFFERENT FORM.
AND MAYBE IT DOESN'T. MAYBE IT IS THIS AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION AND CONVERSATION ON IT.
COUNCILMAN MUNGIA? >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN KAUR.
I SIGNED THE CCR AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE CCR. I THINK IT DOES MERIT SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK. I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME REALLY GOOD ADVICE ON HOW TO RUN THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, I HEAR ACTUALLY ALSO FROM COUNCILWOMAN KAUR'S CONSTITUENTS, THEY'LL TEXT ME, TOO, PEOPLE I KNOW IN DISTRICT ONE, I THINK PEOPLE REALLY, OKAY, IT PASSED, THE TERM SHEET PASSED, THE VOTE PASSED, OKAY, WE'VE GOT TO KEEP MOVING ON THE OTHER PIECE OF IT AND GET COMMUNITY INPUT.
PEOPLE ARE VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN THE CBA AND MAKING SURE IT'S GOING TO SOME REALLY CORE COMMUNITY SERVICE AREAS AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, HERE'S A LITTLE CHECK FOR THIS, A LITTLE CHECK FOR THAT, SOMETHING OVER HERE, AND PEOPLE WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS, RIGHT? I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IT'S A RECTIFYING OF SOMETHING ELSE, BUT EVEN PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO IT SAY, OKAY, IT PASSED, THIS IS THE NEXT STEP, HOW DO WE GET INVOLVED AND GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN THIS? AND I IMAGINE SOMETHING LARGE AND PUBLIC, AND PEOPLE GET TO PUT -- GIVE THEIR INPUT WITH A LOT OF DATA PRESENTED TO FOLKS ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY SO PEOPLE CAN KIND OF PARSE AND CHOOSE WHAT AREAS OF ISSUES WE HAVE MERIT THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT AND NOT JUST IN THAT AREA, RIGHT, ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. SO I THINK IT MERITS SOME CONVERSATION.
THE OTHER THING IS EVEN -- EVEN THOUGH I SIGNED THIS, RIGHT, SOMEBODY CAME UP TO ME AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHO'S NOT ON THERE IS SMALL BUSINESS. I SAID, OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.
OKAY. WE SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE ON SMALL BUSINESS BE A PART OF THIS BOARD THAT KIND OF HELPS GOVERN IT. THE IDEA THAT COUNCILWOMAN KAUR AND I DISCUSSED IS NOT HAVING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS REALLY COME FROM US. WE ALL HAVE OUR GREAT IDEAS AND WHERE WE WANT TO PUT MONEY TOWARDS, WHAT WE REALLY WANT THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING TO HELP DETERMINE THAT, OF COURSE, WITH OUR SUPPORT AT THE END. SO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO FIND WAYS TO DO THAT MEANINGFULLY ACROSS THE CITY WITH MEETINGS AND HAVING DATA AND COLLECTING INFORMATION AND NOT FORCE FEEDING PEOPLE WHAT WE SHOULD INVEST IN, BUT REALLY HAVE IT BE ORGANIC. AND SO I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY GET TO THAT POINT. AND COUNCILWOMAN KAUR AND I DID HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION, TOO, ABOUT THE COUNTY, AND IT WAS A VERY HEALTHY DISCUSSION AND MY CONCERNS WITH THEM PARTICIPATING.
BUT I THINK WITH THE COUNTY PARTICIPATING, WE SHOULD ALSO ASK THEM TO ALSO PUT IN MONEY TO THIS, TOO, I THINK THEY WOULD HELP US WITH THIS IF THEY GET TO HELP DIRECT SOME OCH THESE FUNDINGS, BECAUSE ALL SAN ANTONIANS ARE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THE AREA ALSO, WHETHER WE AGREE WITH IT OR NOT, THEY HAVE SOME AUTHORITY OVER THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY OWN. AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF CONCISE PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN, BUT ALSO WHERE WE DECIDE TO INVEST THIS MONEY. SO I THINK WE CAN GET A LOT MORE ANSWERS AND FINER POINTS NEXT MONTH WHEN WE MEET.
THANK YOU. >> VIAGRAN: YEAH, THANK YOU.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT FOR THIS. IF YOU WENT OUT INTO MY COMMUNITY TODAY, I COULD TELL YOU WHAT THEY'D TELL YOU THEY WANT THE MONEY FOR. AND IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO HEAR THAT, THAT THEY WANT US TO INVEST MORE IN PUBLIC SAFETY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE
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COMMUNITY BENEFITS THE MOST. SO WITH THAT, I THINK -- THE OTHER THING I -- I -- THAT I FIND PROBLEMATIC IS APPOINTING PEOPLE TO MANAGE SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ELECTED TO MANAGE. SO I THINK -- I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE THE COUNCILMEMBERS NEED TO BE PRESENT ON.THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS NEED TO BE PRESENT ON, AND WE NEED TO HAVE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL -- AN ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND AN ELECTED COUNTY, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION. I FEEL LIKE THIS LEANS A LOT ON SAISD AND I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT, BUT I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO GET THE DEAL DONE BECAUSE I KNOW THE EAST SIDE AND THE SOUTHEAST SIDE WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS MOVE. AND THOSE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE NOT NECESSARILY SAISD, YOU KNOW. AND RIGHT NOW, IT FEELS VERY CENTERED TOWARDS STILL THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND I DON'T SEE IT GOING -- IF THIS IS A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THE OTHER DISTRICTS WEIGH IN ON THIS ALSO. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN, IS THAT IT WOULD BE PUBLIC SAFETY OR STREETS AND ROADS WHERE WE WERE THINKING -- AS A COUNCIL, WE WERE THINKING CHILDCARE, EDUCATION, WE WERE THINKING OTHER THINGS. AND SO THAT'S -- I WANT US TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I THINK WE NEED A LOT MORE DISCUSSION RATHER THAN LET'S JUST APPOINT MEMBERS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE OUR VOICE. AND I DO THINK THE COUNTY NEEDS TO PAY IN, I THINK -- I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE OPPORTUNITIES, IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IN ON EDUCATION, TO LET OTHER SCHOOL DICKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED, SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE OPEN TO -- YOU KNOW, ARE OPEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW STUDENTS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY TO COME, TO HAVE A SAY IN THIS ALSO. SO THAT'S -- THAT'S WHY I WANT TO HAVE US -- AT GOVERNANCE HAVE MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE THIS REALLY GOES, BECAUSE I'M LEANING TOWARDS A B SESSION RATHER THAN ANY COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: I THINK ON THIS TOPIC -- DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD, COUNCILMEMBER
MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU.
I GUESS TO THAT END THAT COUNCILMEMBER MUNGIA HAD MENTIONED, IS IT -- HOW MANY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DO WE HAVE WHERE WE EACH HAVE AN APPOINTEE AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SOLICIT FEEDBACK AND COLLECT SURVEYS AND DO EVENTS AND WHATNOT? THAT'S NOT -- A VOLUNTEER COMMISSION, THAT'S NOT THEIR ROLE OR THEIR JOB.
WE COULD COLLECT SO MUCH MORE FEEDBACK THROUGH SO MANY MORE OF OUR -- SO MANY OF OUR OTHER TOOLS OF ENGAGEMENT. WE JUST HAVE TO DO IT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. I ALSO THINK IT TOUCHES -- IT -- I WORRY ABOUT IT ENCROACHING A LITTLE BIT ON THE TERM SHEET AND SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WERE STATED BY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THAT THE EAST SIDE IS DONE RIGHT. IF YOU'RE -- IF THE SPURS ARE GOING TO LEAVE THE EAST SIDE, THEN THE EAST SIDE IS GOING TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF THIS.
AND THEN YOU SET UP A BOARD -- OR A COMMISSION LIKE THIS, AND THERE'S 3,000 WEST SIDE COUNCILMEMBERS, 3,000 NORTH SIDE COUNCILMEMBERS AND 3,000 SOUTH SIDE COUNCILMEMBERS AND THERE'S ALL THIS PROXIMITY AND CONNECTION, THE EAST SIDE IS OUTWEIGHED AGAIN.
SPECIFICALLY THE COMMUNITY THAT'S SPECIFICALLY IMPACTED BY THIS MOVE AND THIS CHANGE THAT WE'RE DOING, SO I'M -- HOPEFULLY AT THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL BR ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT OTHER TYPES OF ENGAGEMENT AS WELL AS IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A COMMISSION, WHAT DOES THE MAKEUP LOOK LIKE AND IS IT EQUITABLE FOR IT TO BE ONE COUNCILMEMBER FOR EVERY DISTRICT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT DOES, MAYBE IT DOESN'T. BUT THERE'S STILL -- I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU, COUNCILWOMAN KAUR AND I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH CITY STAFF.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MUNGIA? >> MUNGIA: YES, COUNCILMAN, I AGREE. IN HIGH SCHOOL I ATTENDED 2020.
IT REALLY WAS DRIVEN BY COMMUNITY AND COUNCILMEMBERS AND CITY WERE INVOLVED, OF COURSE, BUT WE -- BASICALLY, THEY LAID OUT THE INFORMATION TO FOLKS AND SAID, OKAY, THIS IS ALL THE DATA AROUND THE WHOLE CITY, AND THEN THEY DEVELOPED VERY SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR SCHOOLS, THESE ARE OUR GOALS FOR SCHOOLS, THESE ARE OUR GOALS FOR SENIORS, THIS IS OUR GOAL FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR TRANSPORTATION.
AND THEN KIND OF WORKED ON THOSE, YOU KNOW, SEPARATELY.
AND SO A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS -- AND IT WAS A WHOLE NONPROFIT SETUP, RIGHT, THAT PUSHED THOSE IDEAS AND WORKS ON THEM, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE RELINQUISHED ANY AUTHORITY IN THAT SENSE WHEN WE DID THAT, BUT IT WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT. AND I AGREE WITH YOU, THERE DEFINITELY HAS TO BE A VERY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE EAST
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SIDE, AS YOU SAID, BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE THE MOST AFFECTED AREA OF THE CITY. AND SO CERTAINLY NOTHING SHOULD OUTWEIGH THE NEED AND DESIRE THAT ALL OF US HAVE SAID THAT NEEDS TO BE OVER THERE, SO I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF FEEDBACK. GOOD FEEDBACK FOR ERIK TO TAKE BACK AND KIND OF DEVELOP A PLAN AROUND THAT. AND I AGREE, I DON'T THINK THIS GOES TO A COUNCIL COMMITTEE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THE FULL COUNCIL WEIGHING IN ON THIS, BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE DECISION.AND I ALSO TALKED TO THE MAYOR AND TO SUKH ABOUT THIS, TOO, IS TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO INCREASE CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH PARTNERS, FOUNDATIONS, COMPANIES INTO THIS FUND, BECAUSE THE TWO AND A HALF EVERY YEAR IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH FOR SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT, SO WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS AND GET PEOPLE INVOLVED TO GET MILLIONS MORE OVER TIME INTO THIS.
SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MUNGIA JUST SIGNED HIM UP TO GET MATCHING CONTRIBUTIONS TO EVERYBODY THAT JUST GAVE TO THE SPURS PAC, RIGHT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING? I'M GOING TO HOLD MY BREATH ON THAT ONE. I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE MANAGE EXPECTATIONS, RIGHT? $2.5MILLION AS HAS BEEN REITERATED HERE, $2.5 MILLION WHEN YOU THINK A SPEED BUMP COSTS 16K, $2.5 MILLION IS 156 SPEED BUMPS. SO THIS DOESN'T GO VERY FAR.
I THINK TO THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ MADE EARLIER, WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT EXPENDING A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY ON WHAT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY NOT A LOT OF MONEY ANNUALLY, UNLESS YOU LOOK AT -- AND THIS IS MAYBE, BEN, WHERE YOU CAN HELP US BE CREATIVE, DO WE SAVE IT FOR 10 YEARS, RIGHT, AND THEN DO SOME KIND OF MATCHING WITH SOMEBODY ELSE? MY INSTINCT, THOUGH, TELLS ME THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT INVESTMENT IMMEDIATELY AND ANNUALLY. BUT 2.5 MILLION, 156 SPEED BUMPS, TO THE COUNCILWOMAN'S POINT, YOU CAN PROBABLY POINT TO WHERE ALL THOSE WOULD GO JUST IN DISTRICT THREE, RIGHT? I AGREE WITH CONTINUING THE ITEM. I FUNDAMENTALLY AT THIS POINT DO NOT -- I DON'T SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THE COUNTY HAVING SOME VOTING SAY IN HOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE NEGOTIATED. THE COUNTY GAVE $311 MILLION WITH NO CBA. I KNOW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS TRYING TO GET A CBA NOW, BUT AS IN THE REAL WORLD, ONCE YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN THE MONEY, IT'S REALLY HARD TO NEGOTIATE ANYTHING BACK. SO UNLESS WE HAVE SOME COMMITMENT FROM THE COUNTY THAT WE WOULD BE PRIVY TO ANY CBA THAT THEY NEGOTIATED, I'D BE VERY RELUCTANT TO -- FOR THEM TO HAVE ANY KIND OF VOTING OR FORMAL SAY IN HOW WE SPEND, AGAIN, THIS VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, $2.5 MILLION.
OKAY. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH THIS IDEA THAT WE DON'T WANT -- EVEN THAT 2.5 MILLION TO BE IN ANY WAY DISSIPATED INTO CONSULTANT FEES ALL OF A SUDDEN. THAT'S LIKE LESS THAN 2 MILLION, ONCE YOU TAKE OUT THE CONSULTANT FEE. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN THAT COUNCILMEMBERS CAN STEER THIS CONVERSATION QUITE EFFECTIVELY. OKAY. OKAY.
SO THERE IS A -- THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
(AYES.) >> MAYOR JONES: OPPOSED? OKAY.
THE MOTION PASSES. >> WALSH: MAYOR, JUST ONE THING.
SO -- I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE T THE IMPRESSION THAT WE NECESSARILY WANT TO HIRE ANY MORE CONSULTANTS. THE CONCEPT THERE -- WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT IN THE FUTURE AS THE COMMITTEE ENGAGES -- HAS EXPERIENCE DOING THE THINGS YOU GUYS DESCRIBED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY OR OTHER COMMUNITIES, LEVERAGE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE STRUCTURE, JUST SOMEBODY FROM AN EXPERIENTIAL -- NOT TO DO THE WORK, BUT JUST SOMEBODY WHO'S GONE THROUGH THE SWAMP AND DEALT WITH THAT.
SO IT WOULD NOT BE A HIGH COST, BUT THAT ASIDE, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT AND WE'LL PREPARE FOR A FUTURE CONVERSATION.
>> MAYOR JONES: TO THAT POINT, THOUGH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE INTERNAL CAPACITY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ERIK, LIKE A C & E, RIGHT? CAPACITY THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO IDENTIFY KIND OF 10 ISSUES AND THEN GO SURVEY THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT, YOU -- AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT, WHAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY THAT GETS US TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S PROBABLY A 90% SOLUTION OF WHATEVER THE CONSULTANT WOULD ALSO HELP US ARRIVE AT, RIGHT?
>> WALSH: YEAH. AND I'LL SAY THAT THAT'S PART OF THE CALCULUS WE NEED TO DO O ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS, NOT JUST ON THE CAPACITY
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OF C & E. THE ONLY THING THAT WE WOULD BE ASKING F WE DID THIS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, IS JUST HOW DID OTHER COMMUNITIES OR OTHER ENTITIES LEVERAGE, ORGANIZE, GET PRIVATE FUNDING, GET OTHER PUBLIC ENTITIES, JUST SOMEBODY FROM THAT STANDPOINT. BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY -- I KNOW THE COUNCILWOMAN -- COUNCILWOMAN KAUR TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK PART OF IT THAT WAS NOT CONTEMPLATED AS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE RECOMMENDATION ON A CONSULTANT.IT WAS JUST ON WHAT DO YOU DO TO ORGANIZE, LEVERAGE, MULTIPLY AND STRUCTURE THAT FROM A DOLLAR STANDPOINT. WE'D STILL DO EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT WE'LL BE PREPARED FOR A FUTURE CONVERSATION.
>> MAYOR JONES: I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US, THEN, FOR THE NEXT -- FOR THE NEXT -- WHEN THIS IS BROUGHT UP AGAIN TO THE NEXT GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, BEN -- AND LESSON THE CONSULTANT SIDE, BUT I THINK HELPING US THINK CREATIVELY, I THINK THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY AND TIME WE'D SPEND ON THIS IS HELPING US UNDERSTAND WHAT IS POSSIBLE WITH THAT MONEY. RIGHT? IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2.5 A YEAR, THAT'S NOT THAT HARD. IF YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, HERE'S A CREATIVE FINANCING THING THAT WE COULD DO EVERY FIVE YEARS AND THERE'S SOME MATCHING THING, THAT'S DIFFERENT. THOSE ARE THE TYPEFS OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT WE PUT INTO THE COMMITTEE. THANKS.
GO AHEAD. >> MUNGIA: I BRIEFLY BROUGHT THIS UP TO BEN, I THINK IT'S WORTH DISCUSSING IN THE NEXT MEETING, IS DOING A REVENUE BOND WITH THIS FUND. SO OBVIOUSLY WE WOULDN'T GET $70 MILLION IN A LOAN, BUT IF IT'S A CONSISTENT $2.5 MILLION EVERY YEAR PAYMENT, TECHNICALLY WE COULD GO OUT FOR A BOND AND GET A
HUGE CHUNK UP FRONT AND INVEST. >> MAYOR JONES: IS THAT
TRUE? A HUGE CHUNK? >> MUNGIA: THAT'S A
FINANCIAL TERM. >> THE $75 MILLION CASH FLOW, YOU'D HAVE TO BUILD IN, YOU KNOW, ASSUMED INTEREST COSTS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET 75 MILLION LUMP SUM, IT WILL BE SOMETHING LESS. WE CAN RUN THOSE SCENARIOS.
THE OTHER THING YOU'D HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT USES OF THAT FUNDING, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS DEBT ELIGIBLE.
SO IF IT WAS AN OPERATING KIND OF CIG OF CONTRIBUTION, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE CAN LAY SOME OF THAT --
>> MAYOR JONES: I THINK COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN ALREADY HAS E-MAILS FROM 156 CONSTITUENTS THAT NEEDS A SPEED BUMP. WE'LL MOVE TO THE FINAL
OPTION. >> CLERK: ITEM NUMBER 4 IS A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST BY COUNCILMEMBERS TERI CASTILLO DISTRICT FIVE AND MARC WHYTE DISTRICT 10 ON THE CREATION OF A SPURS ARENA PROJECT
ACCOUNTABILITY DASHBOARD. >> MAYOR JONES: GO AHEAD,
BEN. >> GORZELL: SO MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER, THIS IS A REQUEST TO CREATE A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE SPURS ARENA PROJECT DASHBOARD THAT WOULD TRACK IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECT, FINANCING, DELIVERY OF COMMITMENTS MADE BY THE SPURS ORGANIZATION, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AS -- IF THE PROBABILITY MOVES FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW DOWNTOWN ARENA. THE COMPONENTS IN THE DASHBOARD ARE OUTLINED IN THE CCR, INCLUDING PROJECT TRANCE PACERSY, PHYSICAL ACCOUNTABILITY, OPEN DATA AND PUBLIC ACCESS TO DATA RELATED TO THE PROJECT. JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CURRENT EFFORTS AND THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN B SESSION LAST WEEK, BUT WE DID ISSUE A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS LAST WEEK FOR AN EXECUTIVE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE DISTRICT, SO NOT THE ARENA PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, BUT THE SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
THAT EXECUTIVE PROGRAM MANAGER, OR EPM, THEIR JOB IS REALLY TO HELP US OVERSEE THE DISTRICT, THE PROJECTS, THE COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION OF ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT, ALL THE PROJECTS' INFRASTRUCTURE, VENUES AND THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
ONE OF THE DELIVERABLES WE HAVE IN THAT CONVERSATION WILL BE HELPING US SET UP A DASHBOARD THE SLIDE SAYS ARENA PROJECT ACCOUNTABILITY DASHBOARD, WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE DO IS SET UP A SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT DASHBOARD.
THE ARENA PROJECT WOULD BE ONE COMPONENT OF THAT.
SO ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WOULD BE BUILT IN. YOU COULD DRILL DOWN ON THAT PROJECT, BUT WOULD PROPOSE OR RECOMMEND THAT WE DO IT ON THE DISTRICT SO THAT YOU COULD DO THAT ON THE ARENA PROJECT, YOU COULD DO THAT ON THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION PROJECT IF IT MOVES FORWARD, WHATEVER PROMPPROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON, THIS DASHBOARD WOULD CAPTURE THAT DATA AND THE COMMUNITY COULD SEE OUR PROGRESS AS WE MOVED FORWARD.
SO NEXT STEPS, MENTIONED THAT THAT RFQ DID GET RELEASED LAST FRIDAY.
WE ARE SHOOTING TO GET THAT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON A CONTRACT BY MID APRIL. IN THERE, AGAIN, THE SLIDE SAYS SPURS ARENA PROJECT ACCOUNTABILITY DASHBOARD, WE'RE RECOMMENDING SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT DASHBOARD OF WHICH THE ARENA PROJECT WOULD BE A
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COMPONENT, SO THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION. ONCE WE HAVE THE CONSULTANT ON BOARD, WE CAN WORK ON THE DESIGN OF THAT DISTRICT DASHBOARD, BRING THAT BACK, SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF SYSTEM INTEGRATION, TOO. WE WANT IT TO BE A DASHBOARD THAT'S FEEDING OFF OF OUR SYSTEM, SO THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF INTEGRATION THAT WOULD BE BUILT INTO THE CONTRACT AS WELL.WITH THAT, MAYOR, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR JONES: HE'S NOT BACK THERE, IS HE, COUNCILMAN WHYTE? NO? OKAY. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SOS WE MAY BEGIN DISCUSSION.
>> VIAGRAN: I MOVE TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
>> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. AS THE -- ONE OF THE -- NEITHER OF THE SPONSORS ARE HERE, IS THERE ADDITIONAL COMMENT AROUND THE TABLE.
GO AHEAD. >> VIAGRAN: YEAH, BEN, SO I WANT TO GET THE RFQ DONE. I DON'T KNOW HOW SPECIFIC WE WANT.
I -- Y'ALL -- YOU KNOW MY -- MY SUPPORT FOR USING TECHNOLOGY, SO I WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO BE EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC.
IF THEY'RE LIKE, OH, YEAH, WE DO THIS, BUT YOU NEED A CODE IF YOU'RE A VENDOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I WANT THEM TO BE VERY SPECIFIC.
THEY HAVE TO DO THAT SEPARATE TO WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THROUGH OUR -- THROUGH WHATEVER WEBSITE WE HAVE, CAN GO ON AND SEE THE PROGRESS. NOW, IF THEY'RE GOING DO A SEPARATE FOR VENDORS OR CONTRACTORS TO CHECK THINGS, BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WANT THIS EPM TO DO -- IT ATTACHED TO WHAT IS PUBLIC FACING AND I DON'T NEED THE BUSINESS PORTION THERE WHERE MY RESIDENTS HAVE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH IT.
I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO SIMPLY GET TO "HERE'S THE PROGRESS."
>> GORZELL: NO, ABSOLUTELY. UNDERSTOOD.
WE WANT THIS TO BE A COMMUNITY-FACING DASHBOARD THAT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE, EASILY -- YOU KNOW, YOU CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH EACH OF THE PROJECTS, SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT -- THIS DESIGN OF THIS DASHBOARD WOULD BE THAT. ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING ON THE BACK SIDE FOR MANAGING THE PROJECTS THAT, WOULD BE KIND OF ON THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THAT WE WOULD BE MONITORING PROJECTS AND LOOKING AT SCHEDULES, THAT DETAIL WOULD BE THERE.
THIS WOULD REALLY BE THE COMMUNITY-FACING PIECE. THE OTHER PART I FAILED TO MENTION, COUNCILWOMAN, I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT, IS THE THING WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AS WELL, I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS ABOUT HOW WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE UPDATES TO DASHBOARDS.
ONE WAY TO DO THAT. THE OTHER WAS COULD WE CREATE SOME REPORTING OUT OF THE DASHBOARD THAT'S HIGHLIGHTING SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN THE DISTRICT, MAYBE IT'S MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY.
WE CAN PUSH THAT REPORTING OUT TO YOU ALL, THE MAYOR, THE COUNCILMEMBERS, IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THOSE IN NEWSLETTERS.
WE CAN PUSH THAT OUT THROUGH C & E. SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING
THAT INTO THIS PIECE AS WELL. >> VIAGRAN: YEAH.
BECAUSE WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE -- BECAUSE I WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO USE TECHNOLOGY IS IF THE MAYOR DOES GET INTERVIEWED BY KSAT OR DOES HER WEEKLY THING, THAT SHE CAN -- SHE IS CONFIDENT IN THAT IF THEY GO TO THIS WEBSITE, IT'S GOING TO BE EASY TO USE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO END UP IN THREE DIFFERENT PLACES OR NEED TO PROVIDE THEIR E-MAIL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S ONE THING I REALLY -- BECAUSE I REALLY THINK WE CAN DO THIS TO WHERE -- AND THIS IS PROBABLY MY VISIT SAN ANTONIO HAT COMING ON, IS WHERE WE WITH DO THIS WHERE OTHER DESTINATIONS LOOK AT, WOW, LOOK AT WHAT SAN ANTONIO DID TO KEEP THEIR PUBLIC INFORMED. SO THANK YOU, BEN, FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MUNGIA? >> MUNGIA: YEAH, I DIDN'T NECESSARILY SEE IT ON THE BULLET, BUT I THINK A KEY COMPONENT IF WE'RE HAVING ANY PUBLIC MEETINGS ON ANY OF THE COMPONENTS TO THE PROJECTS THAT, THEY BE ON THERE, SO, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE'S REALLY INTERESTED IN THE COURTHOUSE AND THAT DEVELOPMENT, THEY CAN TOGGLE ON THAT AND SEE WHATEVER PUBLIC MEETINGS ARE COMING UP ON THERE. I THINK THAT'S AN EXTRA THING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU. JUST I GUESS WHAT I'M WANTING TO UNDERSTAND, IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE THE CAPITAL PROJECT ITSELF, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING -- MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS TO HOPE TO ADDRESS ANOTHER ONE OF THE COMMUNITY REQUESTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS WHICH WAS A DASHBOARD OF SORTS AND IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT COMPLETION OF THE ARENA ITSELF OR ANY OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, IT WAS ALSO ABOUT ELEMENTS OF THE CONTRACT BEING FULFILLED AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN THAT SENSE. AND EVEN THEN, I DON'T ENTIRELY KNOW THAT IT'S ACCOUNTABLE. I THINK IT'S MORE TRANSPARENCY, BECAUSE ACCOUNTABILITY ASSUMES TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION AND ANSWERING FOR ACTIONS AND WHATNOT. THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
WILL IT INCLUDE THOSE OTHER ELEMENTS? >> GORZELL: I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THOSE, COUNCILMAN. SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE LISTED IN THE CCR ARE LISTED HERE, LIKE COMMUNITY BENEFITS IS OBVIOUSLY OUTSIDE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECTS.
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I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DISTRICT, WE CAN BUILD THE DASHBOARD OUT TO CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE OTHER -- I GUESS, SIGNIFICANT MILESTONES OR THINGS HAPPENING OR THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING INSIDE OF THE AGREEMENT, SO I THINK WE CAN PUT THAT IN PLACE AS PART OFTHE DISTRICT. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: SO THIS IS THE REQUEST.
AND SO YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO INCLUDE IN THE CONTRACT IS GOING TO BE THIS: BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS
WRITTEN AT THE END. >> GORZELL: SO THIS -- THIS IS DEFINITELY THE STUFF WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AT THE END, IN THE RECOMMENDATION WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST TAKING THAT, WHICH IS MORE SPECIFIC TO THE ARENA, WE WANT TO BROADEN IT TO THE DISTRICT.
SO IF THERE ARE SIMILAR THINGS HAPPENING WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION PROJECT, WHATEVER THOSE ARE, WE'D WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. SAY, HERE'S THE DISTRICT, I WANT TO DRILL DOWN AND UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT, COUNCILMAN MUNGIA JUST MENTIONED THE WOOD COURTHOUSE RENOVATION, IF THAT MOVED FORWARD, THE INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT, IF WE CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY THERE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. REALLY TRYING TO BUILD THE DISTRICT OUT BUT GIVE THE COMMUNITY THE ABILITY TO DRILL DOWN IN
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE DISTRICT. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I GUESS THROW IN THE MISSIONS STADIUM WHILE WE'RE AT IT.
>> GORZELL: WE HAD NOT CONTEMPLATED THAT AS PART OF THE DASHBOARD BUT WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT AS WELL. PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS JUST BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED HERE.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ORIGINALLY ON THE PIECE OF PAPER, THIS IS JUST FOR THE SPURS ARENA. BEN HAS ASKED THAT THAT BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRE SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND THEN THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION OF ADDING THE MISSIONS BASEBALL PROJECT TO THIS, SO HOW DO WE NEED DO THAT, MADAM CLERK?
DO WE NEED TO TAKE THOSE AMENDMENTS SEPARATELY -- >> C
>> VIAGRAN: THE MOTIONER WOULD LIKE TO AMEND TO THE SAN ANTONIO SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT -- AND WHAT WAS THE SECOND ONE.
>> MAYOR JONES: THE MISSIONS BASEBALL. >> VIAGRAN: TO INCLUDE
THE MISSIONS BASEBALL FIELD. >> MAYOR JONES: BASEBALL
PROJECT VIETIONZ BASEBALL PROJECT, SORRY. >> MAYOR JONES: OKAY.
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JONES: AND IT'S SECONDED.
OKAY. BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT, IS THAT -- THOSE ARE TWO PROJECTS ON TWO VERY DIFFERENT TIMELINES. HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE SUPPORTING -- BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, THE DASHBOARD ON, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
BASEBALL PIECE? >> GORZELL: I THINK ON THE BALLPARK PROJECT, WE MIGHT NEED TO COME BACK AND KIND OF MAP THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE THAT ONE IS GOING A LITTLE BIT FASTER, BUT I THINK OUR GOAL IS, AGAIN, HAVE THE EPM ON BOARD BY, YOU KNOW, MID APRIL. I THINK --
>> MAYOR JONES: BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE EPM CONTRACT -- REVIEWING
IT, DOESN'T INCLUDE THE BASEBALL STADIUM. >> GORZELL: THAT'S
CORRECT. >> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. >> GORZELL: BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD TALK TO THEM ABOUT ONCE THEY'RE SELECTED, STANDING THAT UP. ONCE WE STAND THE DASHBOARD UP, IT'S REALLY JUST A FUNCTION OF HOW WE INTEGRATE THAT, WHERE WE'RE PULLING DATA FROM.
I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK THAT IN AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT JUST MAY BE, COUNCILMAN, AFTER -- SO IF IT'S APRIL, IF THE THING STAYS ON TRACK AS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, YOU'D BE CONSIDERING THE CONTRACTS IN JUNE, BUT THE PROJECT WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BREAK GROUND UNTIL SOMETIME AFTER THAT, SO THE CONSTRUCTION PIECES, THE ELEMENTS OF MONITORING, SOME OF THAT WE COULD BUILD INTO THE EPM. IT JUST WOULDN'T BE ON
THE VERY FRONT PIECE OF IT. >> MAYOR JONES: DO YOU
HAVE A MODEL IN MIND. >> PROVENCIO: LIKE WHO -- WHICH CITY HAS -- I MEAN, PFCS, YOU'VE HAD PFCS IN DALLAS AND OTHER PLACES, HOW ARE THEY -- DO YOU HAVE A DASHBOARD IN MIND THAT ICE WORKING WELL THAT YOU'RE KIND OF
THINKING AS A MODEL? >> GORZELL: WE HAVE NOT. I'VE NOT LOOKED AT ANY CITY SPECIFIC ONES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE'LL WORK WITH OUR EPM, DRAW ON THEIR EXPERIENCE, GO OUT AS WE BRING THEM ON BOARD TO DESIGN THAT, WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THAT. I MEAN, THIS ONE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIGGER, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM YOU SEE TEND TO BE MORE PROJECT ORIENTED, A SINGLE PROJECT. WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING MORE BROADER, WHICH I DO THINK MAKES SENSE.
WHICH FROM A COMMUNITY TRANSPARENCY PIECE, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THESE MAJOR INVESTMENTS IN WHAT WE'RE DOING, SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH ONCE WE GET THEM ON BOARD.
>> MAYOR JONES: HOW MIGHT WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE TRACKING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT ALSO BE OF PUBLIC INTEREST, NOT JUST HOW MUCH OF THE PROJECT IS DONE, BUT HOW MUCH MONEY IS COMING IN, RIGHT, TO EXAMPLE OF THE PFZ, SO THIS DASHBOARD WOULD BE ABLE TO SHOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS COMING INTO
THE PFZ? >> GORZELL: WE COULD. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE MANAGE HOW MUCH WE PUT ON THE DASHBOARD AND AT WHAT LEVEL OF DETAIL SO WE DON'T MEAB R MAYBE OVERWHELM PEOPLE.
WE HAVE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE WAY WE ORGANIZE IT.
WHAT I WOULD ENVISION, MAYOR, WE GET THE EMP ON BOARD, WE ORGANIZE IT,
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COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND SHOW YOU WHAT WE THINK THIS IS WHAT THE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE, GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND INPUT, AS YOU HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM, WE CAN REVISE AND ADJUST THAT, I THINK THAT WILL BE A HELPFUL EXERCISE FOR US TO GO THROUGH WITHY'ALL AS WELL. >> MAYOR JONES: BECAUSE THE OTHER THING, AS WE'VE -- TO THE COUNCILWOMAN'S POINT ABOUT JUST KEEPING THIS VERY HIGH LEVEL FOR FOLKS, RIGHT, HOW MUCH MONEY, ONE, IS COMING IN, TO THE PFZ, BUT THEN ALSO HOW IS THAT DISTRIBUTED, RIGHT, AMONG THE PROJECTS, HOW IS THAT DISTRIBUTED AMONG THE INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT, TO THE EXTENT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR MEETING HERE LATER ABOUT DEBT MANAGEMENT, AND I THINK FOLKS WANT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY, FOR EXAMPLE, GOING TO DOWNTOWN INFRASTRUCTURE, WHY THEN MIGHT WE STILL NEED TO DO SOMETHING ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE BO BOND, WHY COULD WE NOT JUST USE THE PFZ RESOURCES. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND, AND WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER BASED ON HOW MUCH MONEY IS FLOWING IN, BUT ALSO THE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK WHICH IS YOUR ANALYSIS THAT SHOWS US THE DISTRIBUTION OF MONEY FROM THE PFZ, IN FACT, RESULTS IN THE HIGHEST ROI OF THAT 2.5 BILLION.
SO WE WILL SEE ALSO SOMETHING RELATIVELY SOON GIVEN THIS NOW INCLUDES THE BASEBALL STADIUM.& JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, WOULD THAT -- WOULD WE
NOT SEE THAT UNTIL THE EPM CONTRACT IS SIGNED? >> GORZELL: YES, THAT'S CORRECT. WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEIR HELP PUTTING THAT TOGETHER, DESIGNING IT, MAKING SURE WE CAN DO SOME OF THE MAPPING BACK TO OUR BACK OFFICE SYSTEM SO THAT THE DASHBOARD IS PULLING THE DATA ON A REGULAR BASIS, SO IT'S GETTING UPDATED. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEIR HELP TO HELP US MAP THAT OUT. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SYSTEMS WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO SYNC UP WITH.
>> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. OKAY. SO THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE -- ON THE EXPANDED SCOPE WHICH IS THE SPORSES ENTERTAINMENT AGREEMENT AS WELL AS THE BASEBALL ARENA, ALL THOSE IN FAY SCROR SAY AYE
(AYE. >> MAYOR JONES: OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES.
THE TIME IS NOW 11 -- OH, ACTUALLY, JOHN, ARE YOU BACK THERE? DID HE LEAVE? I SAW HIM POP IN, THE PUBLIC COMMENT GUY.
THE TIME IS NOW 11:10 AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
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