* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE WILL NOW BEGIN THE MEETING. GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT. GOOD AFTERNOON. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. MY NAME IS JOHN BUSANTE AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. THE TIME IS ONE O'CLOCK AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. UH, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING I, I HAVE SOME LATENT ANGER HERE. UM, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. THANK YOU CHAIR. MY NAME IS ROB S SIPES. I REPRESENT DISTRICT SEVEN. MY NAME IS JOHN KELLY. I REPRESENT DISTRICT EIGHT, DANNY KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE. I'VE NEVER BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING FAR LEFT, BUT I'M JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10 MOSES VE, DISTRICT NINE, M ALYSSA, DISTRICT TWO. KEN HUITT, DISTRICT SIX, GEORGE OSA, DISTRICT THREE. EDDIE PETER RODRIGUEZ, DISTRICT FOUR HANANO MAYOR'S REPRESENTATIVE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT. YES. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF. IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES. UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CHECK MARKS WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. AND PLEASE ANNOUNCE THAT WHEN THE SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM THAT YOU ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, [Zoning Items  ] ARE THERE ANY WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS TODAY? WE HAVE TWO POSTPONED ITEMS TODAY. ITEM ONE AND ITEM TWO. ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THE PROPERTY ON WILD EAGLE ROAD IN DISTRICT EIGHT OR THE PROPERTY ON 2058 LAMAR STREET AND DISTRICT TWO, THOSE ITEMS ARE POSTPONED. WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UH, THEY WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. THEY ARE NOT SET FOR ANOTHER MEETING AT THIS TIME. IF THE APPLICANT CHOOSES, THEY CAN BRING THEM BACK AND YOU'LL RECEIVE ANOTHER NOTICE IN THE MAIL AS TO WHEN THAT HEARING WILL OCCUR IF IT IS TO OCCUR. SO IF YOU ARE HERE FOR EITHER OF THOSE TWO ITEMS ON WILD EAGLE ROAD, ITEM NUMBER ONE OR LAMAR STREET ITEM NUMBER TWO, YOU CAN GO ABOUT YOUR WAY AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. ALRIGHT, AT THIS TIME, UH, STAFF IF WE COULD HAVE THE ITEMS ON OUR COMBINED HEARING. ONE AGENDA, THE CONSENT AGENDA, JUST ITEM ITEM NUMBER 5 7 8 9 10 12 14, 15, AND 16. ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANYONE WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS JUST LISTED? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING [00:05:01] NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD READ THE ITEMS IN THE COMBINED HEARING. NUMBER ONE INTO THE AGENDA PLEASE. OR SORRY. AND TO THE RECORD THERE IN THE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM C TWO TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO LOCATED AT 77 0 1 BROADWAY STREET. ALL ALTHOUGH REMAIN THE SAME. 219 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR. 13 OPPOSED OAK PARK, NORTHWOOD IS IN FAVOR AND SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM BP TO I ONE S WITH SPECIFIC USE. AUTHORIZATION FOR STORAGE OUTSIDE SCREENING FROM PUBLIC ROADS AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES REQUIRED LOCATED AT 36 10 SPEEDWAY RUN ALL OTHER RELEASES REMAIN THE SAME. 16 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO. POST STAR BRIDE OVERLOOK SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD SUBSTATION GAVE NO RESPONSE. THE APPLICANT IS AGREEING TO ADD THE FOLLOWING CONDITION, NO OUTSIDE STORAGE OF SAND. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R FIVE TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY WITH A FENCE HEIGHT OF UP TO EIGHT FEET ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SOUTHWEST SOUTHWEST ONE HALF LOCATED AT 52 10 SHERRY ANN ROAD. ALL OTHER AT LEAST REMAIN THE SAME. 15 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR. ZERO POST AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER NINE, THE REQUEST FOR A CHANGES OWNER FROM C TWO NA, C TWO AND C3 TO C3 LOCATED AT 72 71 HORSEBACK ROAD. ALL OTHER REMAIN THE SAME. 75 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO POSTS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER 10, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM FR TO C TWO LOCATED AT 10 78 1 SOUTH SOUTH SAMO STREET. ALL OTHER RELEASE REMAIN THE SAME. 42 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED STAR BRIGHT OVERLOOK SOUTH NA AND VIDA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE. ITEM NUMBER 12, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM R SIX AND C ONE TO RM SIX S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM LOCATED AT 27 47 SOUTH WW WHITE ROAD. ALL OF THE OVAL REMAIN THE SAME. 24 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET AND THE APPLICANT IS AMENDING THEIR PROPERTY TO 0.2837 ACRES OUT OF NCB 10 77 9 AND THE SITE PLAN SHOULD BE SHOWN WITH Y'ALL. ITEM 14. A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM C3 AND A TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITION OF USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 10 0 1 CAPITAL AVENUE. ALL OTHER RELEASE REMAIN THE SAME. 20 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR. ZERO. POST BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. ITEM 15, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM NP EIGHT TO NP EIGHT CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 7 3 1 EAST NOTTINGHAM DRIVE. ALL OF THE OVERLAYS REMAIN THE SAME. 35 NOTICES MAILED FOUR IN FAVOR. ZERO. POST OAK PARK NEIGHBORHOOD NORTHWOOD, SORRY. OAK PARK NORTHWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. AND ITEM 16 A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM C ONE TO C TWO LOCATED AT 3 1 1 HOWARD STREET. ALL OTHER TO REMAIN 33 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED? TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS. OKAY. IF WE COULD, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS OR JUST VOICEMAILS? WE HAVE VOICEMAILS AND WE ALSO NO, WE HAVE SPEAKER. YEAH, WE DO. IF IT WAS FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, I BELIEVE MR. WAGNER IS NO LONGER HERE. OKAY. THEN I THINK WE JUST HAVE VOICEMAILS FOR THESE ITEMS. VERY GOOD. IF WE COULD START WITH THE VOICEMAILS PLEASE. HI, THIS IS THE BROOK JONES. I RESIDE AT 77 11 BROADWAY FIVE B AND I'M CALLING REGARDING CASE V 20 26 1 0 7 0 0 0 1 5. UM, I AM CALLING IN MY CAPACITY AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHATEAU DIJON HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, UH, BOARD. UM, I WANTED TO CALL AND LEND MY SUPPORT TO THE ZONING CHANGE. UM, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE DEVELOPER AS WELL AS SAMANTHA, THE CASE, UH, MANAGER, UM, AND HAVE LOOKED THROUGH EVERYTHING. AND SINCE, [00:10:01] UH, THIS ZONING CHANGE DOES NOT IMPACT OUR EASEMENT, UH, WE HAVE AN EASEMENT, UH, WHEREBY WE, YOU KNOW, ENTER AN EGRESS, UH, FROM OUR PROPERTY. UM, AND IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE HEIGHT, UM, OF THE CURRENT BUILDING. UM, CHATEAU DI JEAN HAS NO PROBLEM. UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT COMPLEX IS WELL MANAGED. UH, THE CLIENTELE THAT IT ATTRACTS, UM, HAVE NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM. UM, YOU KNOW, THE RESTAURANTS ARE ALL LOVELY. A LOT OF THEM ARE REAL COMMUNITY ESTABLISHMENTS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES WITH, UM, CUSTOMERS, UM, AT THAT PLAZA, UM, TRYING TO PARK ON OUR PROPERTY OR CAUSING PROBLEMS OR OBSTRUCTING OUR PROPERTY. OUR, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, OUR EASEMENT, OUR ABILITY TO COME IN AND OUT. SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO WE, WE SUPPORT, UH, WHAT THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH, UM, BY MAKING THE ZONING CHANGE SO THAT THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE, UH, SOME DIFFERENT, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, IN THEIR, UH, SPACE THERE. AND, UH, AGAIN, JUST, UM, THAT IS ON BEHALF OF THE CHATEAU DIJO BOARD AND THE OWNERS THAT WE REPRESENT. UM, WHEN THE NOTICE WENT OUT PREVIOUSLY, THERE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE VOICEMAILS FROM CONCERNED RESIDENTS. UH, BUT AGAIN, THE CONCERNS REALLY CENTERED AROUND LOSING OUR EASEMENT. LOTS OF CONSTRUCTION, HAVING A MULTIPLE STORY, YOU KNOW, BEHEMOTH, UH, TOWERING OVER US, UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH MORE PEOPLE IF IT WAS GONNA BE RESIDENTIAL, LIKE THAT'S WHERE OUR CONCERNS WERE. UM, WE DO NOT HAVE CONCERNS, UH, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO DO. SO THAT BEING SAID, THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION. THE MOST JOVIAL VOICEMAIL EVER. NEXT, PLEASE. HELLO, MY NAME IS CYNTHIA WALKER. I LIVE AT TEN THIRTY EIGHT WEST SUMMIT AVENUE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS AREA CODE (818) 489-2599. I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE NUMBER Z DASH 20 26 1 0 7 0 0 0 1 6. IN REGARDS TO THE PROPERTY AT 1 0 0 1 CAPITAL, UH, I AM CALLING FOR THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. DEAR ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS, BONNA IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING REQUEST TO CHANGE FROM C3 NA TO R FOUR CD FOR TWO UNITS. BAHAMAS ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE VOTED ON MARCH 16TH, 2026 TO SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE AT 1001, EXCUSE ME, 101 CAPITAL FROM C3 NA TO R FOUR CD FOR TWO UNITS. THIS IS A DOWN ZONING THAT WILL BRING THE ZONING IN LINE WITH OUR MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS PLAN, WHICH INDICATES LOW DENSITY RENT RESIDENTIAL FOR THIS PROPERTY. THANK YOU. CYNTHIA WALKER, CHAIR OF THE ZONING AND Z UM, EXCUSE ME, CHAIR OF THE ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE FOR BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. THAT IS IT FOR VOICEMAILS ON THIS ITEMS. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN, IF I COULD HAVE YOU COME UP FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PLEASE? CHRISTENSEN. UM, MR. CHRISTENSEN, YOU HEARD STAFF READ THAT UH, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION BEING PLACED ON THIS ITEM, CORRECT? YES SIR. WE AGREE TO THE CONDITION. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. OKAY. AND IF I COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR ITEM NUMBER 12, PLEASE. MR. CHAIRMAN GREG FERRIS, UH, REPRESENTATIVE THIS CASE. GREAT. THANK YOU MR. FERRIS. MR. FERRIS, YOU HEARD, UH, STAFF SAY THAT THERE'S AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AS WELL AS AN AMENDED LEGAL DESCRIPTION? YES SIR. I'VE SUBMITTED THOSE AS WELL. OKAY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR TODAY? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY. AT THIS TIME THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. MR. CHAIR? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER SEVEN, WITH THE ADDED CONDITION. NUMBER EIGHT, NUMBER NINE, NUMBER 10, NUMBER 12 AS AMENDED. NUMBER 14, NUMBER 15 AND NUMBER 16. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALRIGHT. UH, THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS NUMBER FIVE SEVEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITION 8 9, 10 12 AS AMENDED 14, 15 AND 16 BY COMMISSIONER HUEY, UH, WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HEINA HOSA DISCUSSION LOOKING LEFT. SEEING NONE. DISCUSSION. LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER LO? YES. COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER S SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. [00:15:01] COMMISSIONER VILLE. AYE. COMMISSIONER WIT? YES. COMMISSIONER PANNA? YES. CHAIR BUSTAMANTE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. IF YOU WERE HERE OR ARE HERE, I GUESS, UH, FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS YOU ARE HEADING TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. GOOD LUCK TO YOU. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. YOU CAN GO ABOUT THE REST OF YOUR DAY AND ENJOY IT. ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR CONTINUANCE HEARING DOCKET FOR APRIL 7TH, 2026. IF WE COULD HAVE THOSE TWO ITEMS PLEASE. IT'S, IT'S FOUR ITEMS SO IT, I CAN COUNT IT IS FOUR ITEMS. ITEM 11, 13, 17, AND 18 ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OF THE APRIL 7TH MEETING. OKAY. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE ITEMS? WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES. AND VOICEMAILS. OKAY, IF WE COULD HAVE THE SPEAKERS PLEASE. GWENDOLYN VANDERPOOL. AND WHICH ITEM IS THIS FOR? THIS IS FOR ITEM 13. ALRIGHT, MS. VANDERPOOL. MS. VANDERPOOL, SHE MIGHT HAVE TAKEN OFF GOING TWICE. ALRIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. DREW GARZA. OH, DREA. OKAY. DREA, SORRY. AND WHICH ITEM IS THIS? THIS IS FOR ITEM 11. OKAY, THANK YOU MS. GARZA. IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME, NOT DREW. IS THIS ON AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE FOR THE RECORD. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DREA GARZA, FOUR 30 FOR DRIVE. I OWN UNIT THREE 19 AT THE MAYFAIR CONDOMINIUM AT 24 20 MCCULLOUGH AND SERVE ON THE MAYFAIR BOARD. THE FOLLOWING IS MY PERSONAL OPINION AND THAT OF THE MANY RESIDENTS OF THE MISSILE TOE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THE BOARD IS FOCUSED ON FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES AND DOES NOT COMMENT ON CASES. THE MAYFAIR IS A COLLECTION OF 60 UNITS AND WE WORK HARD TO MINIMIZE OUR FOOTPRINT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. WE ARE SURROUNDED BY EXTERNAL PRESSURES FROM EVERYDAY LIVING. I THANK THE APPLICANT FOR THE CURRENT PARKING AGREEMENTS TO ENSURE STREET PARKING REMAINS OPTIMALLY AVAILABLE. THAT SAID, I OPPOSE THE CHANGE IN ZONING TO IDZ ONE, NO PARKING COMPLICATES ACCESS AND HAS A DIRECT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THOSE WHO RELY ON ON STREET PARKING. I ALSO QUESTIONED THE CARRYOVER, UH, C TWO USE OF A WINE BOUTIQUE. GIVEN THE CHANGE IS FOR KITCHEN RENOVATIONS. THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICANT FOR REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE AND WILLINGNESS FOR MORE DIALOGUE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. I ALSO ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONTINUE THIS CASE SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE APPLICANT AND COLLABORATE ON A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. KASA. THAT IS IT FOR SPEAKERS. ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO VOICEMAILS. HELLO RENATA, THIS IS JANICE CLAYTON. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY HUSBAND AND ME AND WE ARE CALLING TO OPPOSE THE CHANGE IN CITY ORDINANCE B 20 25, 1 0 7 0 0 3, 3 4. AND THIS ZONING CHANGE. WOULD GOOD PREPARED TO ASK, ELIMINATE ANY PARKING REQUIREMENTS HERE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON MCCULLOUGH, WE OPPOSE ANY CHANGE IN ZONING DUE TO THE LACK OF INSUFFICIENT PARKING ALTERNATIVE ON, UH, SURROUNDING STREETS. THERE IS NO MORE PARKING AROUND HERE FOR PEOPLE IN THE RESTAURANTS TO PARK IN AND IT WILL HAVE A VERY NEGATIVE EFFECT ON RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS, PEDESTRIANS AND DRIVERS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR LISTENING TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. AND AGAIN, I HOPE THAT THIS CHANGE IN ZONING WILL NOT COME ABOUT. THANK YOU AGAIN. BYE-BYE. MY TELEPHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN EIGHT SIX FIVE FIVE NINE ONE SEVEN. THE ADDRESS OF MY HUSBAND, REVEREND BURT CLAYTON AND ME IS 24 20 MCCULL, APARTMENT 2 0 2, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 2. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BYE-BYE. YOU ARE WATCHING NOW. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM. THIS IS FOR AGENDA [00:20:01] ITEM NUMBER 11, CASE 1 0 7 0 0 3 3 4 AT 25 20 MCCULLOUGH AVENUE. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS TONY GARCIA AT 2 43 EAST ATCH AVENUE HERE IN THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC DISTRICT. ON BEHALF OF THE MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION, WE ARE REQUESTING THE ZONING COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE FOR THIS CASE IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE ZONING APPLICATION. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. THAT IS IT FOR VOICEMAILS. ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. UM, FOR THOSE, UH, MS. GARA, UH, MR. GARA AND THE CLAYTONS, I HOPE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL REACH OUT TO THEM IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO WORK, UH, TOGETHER TO HOPEFULLY FIND A COMMON SOLUTION. UH, THAT BEING SAID, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION. MR. CHAIR? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY. I MOVE TO, TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO APRIL 7TH, 2026. ITEMS NUMBER 11, 13, 17, AND 18. OKAY, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER KELLUM IS THE SECOND. SORRY. COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA. UM, ALRIGHT. THE MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS 11, 13, 17, AND 18 BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM DISCUSSION. LOOKING TO MY LEFT, SEEING NONE TO MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER LO? YES. COMMISSIONER OSA? YES. COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. COMMISSIONER IL AYE. COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. COMMISSIONER PANA. YES. CHAIR BUSANTE AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT. UH, FOR THOSE WHO WERE ON THIS AGENDA, WE WILL SEE YOU IN APPROXIMATELY THREE WEEKS ON APRIL 7TH. HOPE YOU ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY. ALRIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON NOW TO OUR CONTINUANCE HEARING TO APRIL 21ST, 2026 ITEMS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO THE APRIL 21ST MEETING IS ITEM FOUR. ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION. UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT 2K, SO COMMISSIONER LOST UP TO YOU. UH, MOTION TO CONTINUE. ITEM FOUR TILL APRIL 21ST. 2026. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DVE. UH, UM, ALRIGHT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE. LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. AND THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT. GOOD NEWS. UM, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, , THE MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO APRIL 21ST, 2026 BY COMMISSIONER LO WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VE UH, ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER LO? YES. COMMISSIONER VE AYE. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA. YES. COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY. AYE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. COMMISSIONER WHATSUP? YES. COMMISSIONER PANA? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING DOCKET AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS AT EITHER GOMEZ ZONING, SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS LOCATED AT 1346 WESTERN OAK DRIVE REQUESTING A CHANGE FROM C3 N-A-S-E-R-Z-D, GENERAL COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M SORRY, NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR FACILITY TO C3 NSE, RZ D WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITIES. SCREENING REQUIRED FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE FROM PUBLIC ROWS AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES EXCEPT FOR I TWO, THERE WERE 32 NOTICES SENT OUT. ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO POST THE BAVARIAN FOREST. HOA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT PROVIDE RESPONSE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THEY SUBMITTED SOMETHING TO THE APPLICANT. STAFF HAS FOUND INDICATION OF LIKELY ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY OR WELFARE BASED ON THIS REQUEST. THE CURRENT C3 NASE RZ D WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR FACILITY IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. AND THE PROPOSED C3 NAS WITH A SPECIFIC YOUTH AUTHORIZATION FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS. FACILITY SCREENING REQUIRED FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE FOR PUBLIC ROWS AND ADJACENT PROPERTY, EXCEPT FOR I TWO, IS ALSO NOT APPROPRIATE. WHILE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY SUPPORTING USES, SIMILAR TO THOSE REQUESTS THAT ITS IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY TO AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD REQUIRE MORE SENSITIVE APPROACH. RETAINING OR GRANTING THAT PROVIDES [00:25:01] C3 NAS DESIGNATION WITH WITHOUT SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, POSES A POTENTIAL DETRIMENT TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE. A C TWO NACD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TRANSITION IS RECOMMENDED AS THIS PROVIDES A MORE APPROPRIATE TRANSITION AND BUFFER WHILE STILL ACCOMMODATING THE APPLICANT'S PRIMARY OPERATIONAL NEEDS. THE REQUESTED SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION IS BEING REQUESTED TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE DISTRICT OVERLAY, ENSURING ALL ENVIRONMENTAL AND IMPERVIOUS COVER STANDARDS ARE MET. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE AND SIR IF YOU WILL. WELL, SHOULD WE HAVE SAS FIRST? OH, WE SHOULD HAVE SAWS FIRST. YES. SORRY. I APOLOGIZE. SAW REPORT. ALRIGHT. MIKE ESCALANTE, WITHS AQUIFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION. UH, WE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED AT 13 4 0 6, UH, WESTERN OAK DRIVE, ALLOWING FOR A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY. THE SITE IS 1.82 ACRES WITH AN EXISTING 4,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, OFFICE WAREHOUSE WITH A PAVED PARKING AREA AND A FENCED OUTDOOR, UH, AREA OF COMPACT GRAVEL. THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE WAS BUILT IN 2001, LOCATED WITHIN THE NORTHWEST BUSINESS PARK AND IS CLASSIFIED AS A CATEGORY ONE. THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE WILL ALLOW A FENCE CONTRACTOR TO, TO OCCUPY THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE AND ALLOW OUTDOOR STORAGE OF FENCING MATERIAL. THEREFORE NO INCREASE TO THE EXISTING AND PREVIOUS COVER. UH, NO PORTION OF THE SITE IS IN A FLOODPLAIN AND NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES WERE DOCUMENTED, UH, NOR OBSERVED ON SITE. WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE SOLVES REPORT TO INCLUDE NO INCREASE TO THE EXISTING 82% AND PREVIOUS COVER ON SITE, UH, OUTSIDE STORAGE OF FENCING MATERIALS TO BE STORED ABOVE GROUND, NO HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TO BE STORED ON SITE, NO VEHICLES OR HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO BE PARKED OR STORED IN THE OUTDOOR AREA. UH, AND NO HEAVY EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE ALLOWED ON SITE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. ESCALANTE. I'M GONNA BLAME THE FACT THAT I GOT BACK FROM VACATION LAST NIGHT, SO I'M STILL CATCHING UP. UH, AT THIS POINT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE, AND IF YOU WOULD TELL US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. GOOD AFTERNOON, JOHN COOLEY, 7 1 1 9 PARKSIDE PLACE. AND IF YOU WOULD, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REQUEST. CERTAINLY. SO THE, UH, CURRENT BUILDING, AS YOU CAN SEE KIND OF IN THE FIRST SLIDE, UH, HAS BEEN IN THIS ESSENTIALLY EXISTING CONDITION SINCE IT WAS BUILT. SO THE NEXT SLIDE DOWN IS FROM 2016. THIS WAS WHEN IT WAS USED AS A, UM, PLUMBING CONTRACTOR FACILITY. UH, AND THEN, UH, SO PRETTY MUCH USING MOST OF THE ENTIRE OUTDOOR AREA FOR STORAGE OF GOODS. ALL THIS IS SCREENED ALL THE WAY AROUND AT THAT POINT, AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD IS THERE. UM, AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE DOWN, THAT IS FROM I BELIEVE 2001 KINDA WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THERE, A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH OUTDOOR PARKING. SO OUR REQUEST IS, UM, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS THE CURRENT ZONING, UM, WHICH IS THE C3. IF YOU'LL GO DOWN TO, UH, YOU CAN GO ONE MORE DOWN. LET'S LOOK AT THIS ONE. SO KINDA EVERYTHING IN THAT CORRIDOR THERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE IS, UH, C3 NA WITH THE SAME, UH, RESTRICTIONS. SO, UH, ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR, THIS IS A FENCING CONTRACTOR, WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT TO A, I GUESS A DEFINITION THAT IS CURRENT WITH THE, THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. COOLEY. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. SEE? ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. IN THAT CASE, YOU DO NOT GET A REBUTTAL, UH, BUT THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO COMMISSIONER KELLY TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. UM, MR. COOLEY, I GUESS I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD APPARENTLY DID NOT RESPOND OR GIVE ANY CONCERNS, BUT I WONDER IF YOU'VE INTERACTED WITH ANY FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HAVE YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM? YES, SIR. I SPOKE TODAY WITH LARRY GARZA, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE BAVARIAN HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WALKED HIM THROUGH OUR APPLICATION. HE INDICATED HE WOULD BE EITHER IN SUPPORT OR NOT IN OPPOSITION. UM, BUT I AGREED HE'S ON SPRING BREAK, SO I TOLD HIM I WOULD, UH, HE'S GOT MY CELL PHONE. I TOLD HIM TO GIVE IT TO ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION FURTHER, BUT, UM, HE SEEMED TO BE NOT OPPOSED TO THE, TO THE CHANGE. UM, AND, AND AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, HE'S SPEAKING AND FOR THE NEIGHBORS THAT DO ABUT YOUR PROPERTY THEN? I BELIEVE SO. HE REACHED OUT TO, UH, CHIEF OF STAFF WHO PASSED HIM MY INFORMATION. SO I BELIEVE HE WAS, UH, REACHING OUT AND KIND OF, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. BUT AGAIN, I INDICATED THAT BEFORE WE WENT TO CITY COUNCIL, IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT, UH, BUBBLED UP THAT BECAME A ISSUE, THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN, UM, [00:30:01] ABOUT THE FENCING THERE, THE EXISTING HOMES THERE, I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE PROVIDED, UH, WOOD FENCES ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. UH, DO YOU HAVE OR PLAN TO PROVIDE ANY FENCING ON YOUR PROPERTY? THE EXISTING FENCING IS NOT PLANNING TO CHANGE. UM, SO THERE'S A FENCE AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, WHICH IS SCREENED FROM ALL OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS. UH, I THINK THAT'S NOT OUR BUILDING. YEAH, . OKAY. THAT'S KINDA ALL KINDA LOOKING OUT FROM OUR SITE. BUT YEAH, THE, SO THE, YES, SO THE FENCING ALONG WESTERN OAK, UH, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SITE MAP, MR. WOOLEY, I'M SORRY, THERE'S A, UH, OH, A POINTER. LASER POINTER RIGHT THERE. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU. WHY THAT? SO THIS WOULD BE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT HERE AND THERE IS AN EXISTING WOOD FENCE ALONG THIS, THIS PROPERTY LINE. OKAY. I I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, WAS THAT THEIR FENCES OR IS THAT YOUR FENCE? THE WOOD FENCE? I AM NOT SURE, UH, WHICH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE IT'S ON. IT'S BEEN, UH, ACTUALLY COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE AERIAL? MAYBE WE CAN SEE FROM THE YEAH, EITHER THAT OR, UH, YEAH, THIS LOOK, IT LOOKS LIKE, WELL, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANT TO, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S MAYBE TWO FENCES. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A FENCE. IT LOOKS LIKE . THERE YOU GO. YEAH. . CAN YOU ZOOM? LOOK AT THAT. HOLY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A FENCE AND THEN THEY HAVE, THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN EXISTING WALL AND THEN A FENCE. SO THERE'S, UM, THAT'S THEIR FENCING. AND THEN IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S A, UH, PROBABLY FOR THAT ELECTRICAL EASEMENT, THERE'S A GAP THERE. AND THEN OUR FENCE. OKAY. I, I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. I WAS JUST CONCERNED IF, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IF THE RESIDENT DOESN'T KEEP UP THEIR FENCE, THEN YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE EXPOSED TO SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES ON YOUR PROPERTY. SO YES, SIR. AS LONG AS THERE'S A FENCE THAT Y'ALL ARE MAINTAINING, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. UH, I KNOW THAT 1560 IS CURRENTLY UNDER RECONSTRUCTION, I BELIEVE. UH, UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DRIVE OUT, LOOK AT THE SITE, BUT, UM, DO Y'ALL PLAN TO MAINTAIN THE ACCESS DRIVEWAY ONTO 1560? YES. SO 15, 16, I BELIEVE HOUSEMAN ROAD, RIGHT? THE SAME. SAME, YES, SIR. SO THIS, UH, THERE'S TWO APPROACHES OFF OF, UH, HOUSEMAN, WHICH HAVE BEEN RECENTLY REDONE. I THINK WITH THAT IMPROVEMENT, THAT'S ALREADY COMPLETE ALONG ALL OF THERE. SO THOSE ARE NEW CONCRETE APPROACHES, NEW CONCRETE SIDEWALKS ALL THE WAY, UM, THROUGH THIS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THIS IS A, THE EXISTING, UH, EXISTING SIDEWALK ALONG WESTERN OAK. OKAY. UM, I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE, THE OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG WESTERN OAK, AS YOU GO FURTHER INTO THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE PRETTY COMPARABLE WOULD YOU SAY TO WHAT YOUR PROPERTY USE IS? ABSOLUTELY. AND WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, IT'S KIND OF COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL TYPE ACTIVITIES. YES, SIR. IF YOU'LL GO UP ONE SLIDE, MA'AM. SO YOU CAN SEE OUR, OUR PROPERTY RIGHT HERE. UM, YOU'VE GOT, THIS IS A PLUMBING CONTRACTOR. THIS IS, UH, CURRENTLY OPEN. THIS IS A AUTO, UH, AUTO. THEY DO TRUCK LIFTS AND WHEELS AND THINGS. UM, BUS REPAIR. UH, THIS IS A, UH, LONGHORN, I THINK AN IRRIGATION PIPE COMPANY. SO SIMILAR USES ALL THROUGHOUT THERE. IT'S KIND OF A, A HANDFUL OF CONTRACTORS. YEAH, I JUST, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CASE. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. BUT, UH, I GUESS SINCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEEMS TO NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS THEY'VE BEEN USED TO SEEING YOUR PROPERTY, UM, USED IN SIMILAR FASHION AND THE OTHER, UH, PROPERTIES DOWN THE ROAD THERE, UH, I WOULD ASSUME IF THEY WERE HAVING BIG HEARTBURN, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION. I GUESS THE LIGHTING ON THE SITE, IS IT, UH, DOWNWARD FACING, AND I'M ASSUMING YOU DO HAVE SOME LIGHTING ON THE PROPERTY? YES, SIR. SO THERE IS LIGHTING ON THE BUILDING. UM, THAT IS, UH, IT COULD, THE EXISTING LIGHTING, UH, THAT CAN, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S CURRENTLY DOWNWARD FACING, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING IF IT'S, UH, IF IT'S, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, WE COULD, WE COULD IMPLEMENT THAT. UM, THERE ARE, UH, TWO EXISTING LIGHT BALLARDS, UM, YOU'LL SEE. YEAH, RIGHT HERE. THEY'RE NOT, UH, IT'S OKAY. GOTTA RE-LOG IN. YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE. UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIGHT STANDARDS, THEY'RE NOT IN USE. UM, AND, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OLDER. SO, UH, THOSE COULD EASILY BE, WE COULD MANDATE THAT THOSE BE CONVERTED TO DOWNWARD FACING IF THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. UH, YES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE [00:35:01] APPROPRIATE. IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, AVOID ANY INTRUSION INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE BACKYARDS. YES, SIR. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CHAIRMAN. MR. KELLY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS TO MY LEFT? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM. MR. COOLEY, REAL QUICK, UM, THE SEPARATION BETWEEN YOUR FENCE, THE, YOUR SCREENED FENCE AND THE WOOD FENCE, IS THAT YOUR PROPERTY THAT THERE'S A, A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO? YOU GO TO THE SURVEY, THAT SITE PLAN? I GUESS REALLY MY QUESTION IS, UH, WOULD, WOULD Y'ALL BE RESPONSIBLE OR AT LEAST LIKELY TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T BECOME A DUMPING ZONE MAINTAINED? YES, SIR. YEAH, I BE, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THE WIDTH OF IT. I, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MAYBE LIKE, OH, LET'S SEE, RIGHT THERE. THAT'S, THAT'S A 10 FEET. YEAH, IT, IT'S A, IT'S A DRAINAGE EASEMENT IT APPEARS. UM, BUT YES, THAT WE CAN, UM, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM, BUT FAIR. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO IT IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, CHAIR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELLUM, COMMISSIONER DUVALL, THEN COMMISSIONER SIPES TO, UM, UH, STAFF. IF, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. UH, HOW MANY PROPERTIES ROUGHLY CURRENTLY ON WESTERN OAK HAVE COMMERCIAL USES? HOW MANY, HOW MANY LOTS ARE THERE ROUGHLY? SO ALONG WESTERN OAK, HANG JUST A SECOND. PRETTY MUCH A MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES THERE ALL OBSERVE COMMERCIAL USES LIKE MR. COOLEE, UH, POINTED OUT. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN, UM, ARE ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES DESIGNATED AS SUBURBAN TIER? YES. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE MALL IS GONNA BE SUBURBAN TIER, BUT THE CORNER LEFT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED REGIONAL COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET RIGHT ACROSS FROM THIS PROPERTY. OKAY. THE, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S INTERESTING. SO THE, UH, STAFF REPORT REFERS TO THE REQUESTED C3 BASED ZONING DISTRICT AS NOT BEING CONSISTENT WITH THAT NORTH SECTOR PLAN. SO THAT WOULD BE THE CASE FOR ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ON WESTERN OAK DRIVE, CORRECT. ALL THOSE THAT ARE SUBURBAN TIER? YES. AND LOOKING AT IT, THAT PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, THAT'S REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, THAT WAS, UH, REZONED IN 2016, AND THAT'S MOST LIKELY WHEN THE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS POTENTIALLY DONE. I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS ADOPTED IN AUGUST, 2010. THE NORTH SECTOR, THE SECTOR PLAN, YES. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SINGLE PROPERTY THAT IS THERE. TYPICALLY REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, AND THIS IS GOING INTO PLANNING DEPARTMENT, OR I'M SORRY, PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS. TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, YOU WANT THE LOTS TO BE ABOUT 20 ACRES OR MORE BECAUSE IT IS MEANT TO SERVICE. UM, THAT'S NOT REALLY Y'ALLS PURVIEW, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE WHOLE, UH, IDEAL OF WHY WE WOULD PREFER SOMETHING. STAFF WOULD PREFER SOMETHING OF A, KEEPING IT THE SUBURBAN TIER. UM, AND SO, SO THE, UM, STAFF REPORT REFERS TO THE CURRENT REQUESTED BASE ZONING'S NOT CONSISTENT. I, I THINK WE'VE CONFIRMED, RIGHT, ALL THE LOTS THAT APPLIES TO ALL THE LOTS ON THE STREET ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THAT 2010 PLAN. RIGHT. BUT WE ARE, I MEAN, REALLY GOING OVER THIS PROPERTY ALONE AND THEY DID REQUEST A PLAN AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS IN, UM, AGREEMENT WITH THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL. AND WHAT WAS THE STATUS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING? WHAT DID THEY DECIDE THAT'S GOING TO BE HELD ON MARCH 25TH? AND THEN, UM, OH MAN. UH, WE WERE ON A ROLL, UH, UM, I MEAN A ROLL OF HEARINGS WHERE WE DIDN'T GO IN THE SITUATION, BUT, UM, SO WE HAVE TO FIND CONSISTENCY BASED ON SECTION 35 4 21. UM, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT, BUT LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CASE THAT IT SHOULD BE, UH, THE PLAN DESIGNATION SHOULD CHANGE. SHOULD, AND I'LL, I'LL JUST KIND OF RESTATE, RESTATE AGAIN, THE PLAN AMENDMENTS. THOSE ARE HANDLED BY PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU REALLY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND CONSISTENCY, BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE CITY COUNCIL MAKES THAT FINAL DECISION. YOU GUYS ARE RECOMMENDING BODY. SO YES, YOU CAN TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT, BUT AGAIN, YOU ARE RECOMMENDING, YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION AND CITY COUNCIL IS THE ONE WHO MAKES THAT DECISION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS, UM, CONSISTENT. UH, SO AGAIN, THIS HAS COME UP, SO I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. WE CAN'T MAKE A CONTINGENT [00:40:01] RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? CONTINGENT? YES, YOU CAN. YES, YOU CAN. YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS, AGAIN, WHEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, IT'LL SAY PENDING PLAN AMENDMENT. IT IS CITY COUNCIL WHO MAKES THAT FINAL DECISION. Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION CAN BE WHAT IT IS. SO IF, IF OUR RECOMMENDATION IS CONTINGENT, SHOULD WE MAKE OUR MOTION BASED ON WHAT YEAH, I, I WE NEED TO STEP IN AND CLARIFY. COMMISSIONER, SORRY, MR. SPARROW, NOT COMMISSIONER SPARROW. YEAH, MR. SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION CAN BE PENDING A RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. IT CANNOT BE CONDITIONED ON WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION ULTIMATELY DOES. SO THIS BODY CANNOT, FOR INSTANCE, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT ONLY IF PLANNING COMMISSION SUPPORTS IT AS WELL. WE CANNOT ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION. ALRIGHT. ALSO FOR ME TO JUMP IN, OKAY, AND MAYBE THIS WILL HELP, THERE IS A STATE STATUTE THAT SAYS THAT WE CAN ONLY ZONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE ALL OF THESE PLANS THAT GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS ZONING WOULD GO THROUGH IS IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE PLAN AT THE SAME TIME. YOU CANNOT HAVE A ZONING CASE GO THROUGH AND HAVE THE PLANNING PART OF IT, THE PLANNING ASK THAT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOT GO THROUGH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S BY LAW. SO THE ONLY WAY THAT IF YOU MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL THAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO PASS IS IF CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE AND AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE IT. RIGHT. SO THE, THE ACTUAL ZONING HAPPENS AT COMMISSION. THIS IS, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO, SORRY, TO COUNCIL, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THE, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE. GREAT. UM, I SUPPOSE THE, THE CHALLENGE FOR ME IN MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION IS DO I MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, DO WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE, YOU KNOW, EXPECTATION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING TO. SO THREE, I SEE THREE OPTIONS. WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTING THE, THE RECOMMENDED PLAN AMENDMENT WE MAKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OPTION ONE. OPTION TWO IS WE, WE MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION NOT RECOMMENDING THE CHANGE PLAN AMENDMENT. AND OPTION THREE IS WE PICK WHATEVER WE THINK IS BEST AND, AND BASED ON OUR IMPRESSION OF THE, OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND OUR IMPRESSION OF, OF LAND USE PRINCIPLES. AND IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, OPTION THREE IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE OPERATING UNDER THE ASSUMPTION OF. OKAY, SO WHILE IT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW TO RECOMMEND PLAN CHANGES, WE SHOULD STILL BE THINKING THROUGH WHAT WE THINK, WHAT PLAN CHANGES WE THINK WOULD BE BEST. AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE, YOU KNOW, CORRECT. YEAH. PLANNING COMMISSION, EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION SHOULD VOTE ACCORDING TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY THINK THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TODAY IS APPROPRIATE OR INAPPROPRIATE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL DO THE SAME. THEY WILL VOTE WHETHER THEY THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE OR INAPPROPRIATE, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT WHAT ULTIMATELY PASSES OR DOES NOT PASS IS CONSISTENT. THE ZONING HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN THAT IS THE CHARGE OF CITY COUNCIL. OKAY, FANTASTIC. RIGHT. IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO CONSIDER THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE WHOLE PROPOSAL, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT. WOW. THANK YOU. THAT, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. SO, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER VO COMMISSIONER SIPES QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, IN, IN THE PRESENTATION THERE WAS MENTIONING THERE WAS MENTION OF PERHAPS POSSIBLE CONDITIONS AND I NOTICED THAT ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT SURROUND IT ALL ARE CD I WAS WONDERING, I TRIED LOOKING IT UP ON THE ZONING MAP, I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CD IS, IS, COULD YOU ALL BRIEFLY MAYBE EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE FOR THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES ARE? UH, IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THEM IS, AT LEAST FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TRADE CONTRACTOR FACILITY, THE ONE ON THE CORNER. I WAS GONNA SAY MANY OF THIS WOULD TAKE TIME TO DO A ZONING HISTORY ON ALL THOSE PROPERTIES, WHICH WAS NOT COMPLETED SINCE IT WAS NOT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO, NO, I UNDERSTAND. I I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST, UH, CURIOUS IF IT WAS LIKE, OH, WELL THEY ALL JUST ADDED DOWNWARD LIGHTING AND HOURS OF OPERATION OR SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE THAT. OR, BUT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. THAT'S FINE. UM, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST, IT IS, UM, AVAILABLE TO ADD CONDITIONS IF Y'ALL FEEL FIT. YES. OKAY. DOES, AND THE FINAL QUESTION, UM, IT DOESN'T APPEAR, BUT IS THIS IN THE, UM, [00:45:04] MILITARY MLO? IS IT, IT'S NOT IN MD ISN'T. ALRIGHT, GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT, UH, BRIEFLY, STAFF, UH, THE RE THE REQUESTED ZONING SAYS SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY SCREENING REQUIRED FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS AND ADJACENT PROPERTY EXCEPT AN I TWO. SO THAT LAST PHRASE EXCEPT AN I TWO, THAT'S NOT APPLICABLE HERE, CORRECT? IT IS NOT. OKAY, THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? SEEING YES, COMMISSIONER BEL? YEAH. UH, ON A DIFFERENT POINT, UM, THE FENCE, WE, WE'VE REFERRED TO IT AS A, A SCREENING FENCE, BUT COULD WE GO ON GOOGLE STREET VIEW? UM, JUST TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE? 'CAUSE I, WHEN I, WHEN I GO, I, I SEE A, A CHAIN LINK FENCE AND, AND I THINK WHAT I SEE IS A CHAIN LEAK FENCE WITHOUT ANY, UM, BARRIER IF I'M, IF I MAY YEAH, DURING SITE VISITS, THAT PORTION APPEARED TO BE SCREENED. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE SECTION THEY'RE POINTING OUT RIGHT NOW OR THE ONE THAT'S ABUTTING THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY? OH, I'M REFERRING TO THE SECTION ABUTTING THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE GOOGLE STREET VIEW, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER TO SEE AS OPPOSED TO EXPLORE. SO GOING OFF OF GOOGLE STREET VIEW, I MEANT THIS IS DONE IN 2019, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS SOLID FENCING ALONG THE FRONT, BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE CHAIN LINK WITH A BARBED WIRE ON THE TOP ALONG THE, UM, EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THEY DO HAVE THEIR EXISTING, UM, THE HOUSES THAT BACK UP TO THEM HAVE THAT SOLID SIX FOOT FENCE. SO THE CONDITIONS AS THEY'RE CURRENTLY RIDDEN, WOULD THAT REQUIRE A CHANGE TO THE CHAIN LINK FENCE OR WOULD THE SOLID IT WOULD REQUIRE BECAUSE THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE SCREENING FROM ALL ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND RIGHT OF WAYS. SO YES, IT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO PUT IN A SIX FOOT SOLID FENCE. THANK YOU. OR, OR AS SCREENED TO RIGHT. CORRECT. TO THE PROPERTIES. UM, YEAH, I MEAN YOU'VE GOT SCREENING HERE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SCREENED ON YOUR PROPERTY. YOU COULD NOT RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES. CORRECT. GOT IT. SO WE COULD PUT SCREEN SLATS INTO THIS EXISTING FOOT FENCE AND YES. MEET THE REQUIREMENT. YEAH, IT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SCREENED WITH AN APPROVED MATERIAL, BUT YES, YOU COULD RETROFIT THE EXISTING FENCE TO HAVE THE SCREENING. OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS LEFT? YES. NOPE. YES, COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S UP? I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A QUESTION IN THE COMMENT, BUT, UM, THE HOUSES CAME IN AFTER THOSE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES AND WAREHOUSE PROPERTIES HAD BEEN THERE. THEY'VE BEEN THERE SINCE THE NINETIES OR EVEN THE LATE EIGHTIES AND THE HOUSES WERE BUILT LIKE IN 2006. AND SO HOW DO Y'ALL DEAL WITH THAT WHEN NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE WAREHOUSES HAVE BEEN THERE, THE BUYERS KNEW THEY WERE THERE, AND NOW YOU'VE GOT THIS CONFLICT AND SAYING IT'S NO LONGER APPROPRIATE. UH, SO OUR CODE DOES NOT DIFFERENTIATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE SCREENING BASED ON WHO CAME FIRST. IT REQUIRES THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN EVERY SITUATION WHERE SCREENING IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE IT. I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT SAYING NONE QUESTIONS, RIGHT? SAYING, YEP. COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, SO A QUESTION FOR STAFF, JUST A QUICK QUESTION JUST FOR MY, UM, CURIOSITY. WHERE WHERE IS THE BORDER FOR BETWEEN SAN ANTONIO AND HELOS? IS THAT LIKE RIGHT BY IT? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE OUTSIDE CITY LIMIT AREA DIRECTLY TO THE WEST? UM, SO THERE'S A, OH, I SEE IT ON THE MAP. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THERE BEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO COMMISSIONER KELLY TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. WELL, IT'S, UH, BEEN INTERESTING DISCUSSION FOR SURE. UM, AND I THINK THAT, UH, THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL. THERE'S SO MANY ISSUES WHERE WE HAVE DIFFICULTY AT THE INTERFACE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL PROPERTIES AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE OFTEN CAUGHT IN THE SITUATION OF TRYING TO DEAL WITH A SITUATION THAT'S, UH, THAT'S BEEN FOISTED UPON US BY DECISIONS MADE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. SO IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT, UH, THERE'S SO MANY OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG WESTERN, UM, WHAT IS THAT WESTERN WHATEVER, UH, I THINK WESTERN OAK, I THINK THAT, UM, [00:50:01] YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT LIKE WAS MENTIONED, I THINK THE RESIDENTS CAME LATER. THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE MOVING INTO. UM, UH, I THINK MR. COOLEY IS NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS USED. UH, IT'S VERY SIMILAR USE SINCE THE RESIDENTS HAVE NOT EXPRESSED, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CONCERN OR ANY CONCERN ACTUALLY. UM, I AM GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE REZONING AS REQUESTED. OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER KELLY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM. UM, ALRIGHT, AT THIS POINT, YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO, UH, REQUIRED DOWNWARD PHASING LIGHTING. IS THAT ACCEPTED COMMISSIONER KELLY? QUITE ACCEPTABLE. YES. ALRIGHT. IS THAT ACCEPTED COMMISSIONER? UH, KELLUM? YES, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. UH, DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT? YES. COMMISSIONER DUVAL. UM, O ONLY THAT THE, UM, THIS PROBLEM OF THE, UH, NORTH SECTOR PLAN NOT BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC USES, IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ALL THESE LOTS. UM, SO WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, KEEP ON THE CITY'S GONNA KEEP ON HAVING THIS ISSUE ANYTIME IT LOOKS LIKE ANY OF THESE, UH, PROPERTIES NEED TO TRY TO PIVOT IN THEIR BUSINESS AND, AND, AND CHANGE THEIR OPERATIONS. UM, BUT THAT'S, I, I DON'T THINK, THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A REASON TO NOT DO THE PLAN CHANGE. UM, SO I THINK THAT THE, UH, THE CITY PROBABLY SHOULD CONSIDER CHANGING IT FOR EVERYBODY AND NOT JUST FOR THIS PROPERTY, BUT I KNOW THAT WOULD BE A, A DIFFERENT ITEM, YOU KNOW, WITH A DIFFERENT APPLICANT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LEFT? SEEING NONE DISCUSSION. RIGHT. SEEING NONE. UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. UH, I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER DUVAL'S CONCERNS, BUT AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, AS STAFF HAS POINTED OUT, THE JOB OF RECONCILIATION IS NOT OURS. UM, AND SO, UH, FURTHERMORE, GIVEN THE SORT OF HISTORIC USE AND WHO CAME FIRST, THAT IS ALWAYS SOMETHING I CONSIDER, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE PLOPPING DOWN AN INDUSTRIAL USE OR OTHER HEAVY COMMERCIAL USE IN A RESIDENTIAL SYSTEM THAT IS A FAR CRY FROM RESIDENTIAL SPROUTING UP AROUND EXISTING COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL USES, UM, WHICH IN THIS CITY THE WAY WE'VE BEEN GROWING IS QUITE COMMON. UH, SO THAT BEING SAID, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITION OF DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING BY COMMISSIONER KELLY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM. ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER EF? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY. AYE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER VILLE. AYE. COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. COMMISSIONER PANA? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, GOOD LUCK TO YOU CITY COUNCIL IN SIX MONTHS. ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER SIX PLEASE. AND THANK YOU TO THE MICS FOR BEING HERE AS ALWAYS. GOOD AFTERNOON. ALEXA RATANA ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS LOCATED AT 70 95 ERMAN ROAD GOING FROM R 20 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY UP TO 16 RESIDENTS TO C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC CELLS DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME. THERE WERE 12 NOTICES SENT OUT, ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET. AND RIOT COMMONS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION GAVE NO RESPONSE. THE EXISTING R 20 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY UP TO 16 RESIDENTS IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C TWO AND A CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY IS NOT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. PREVIOUSLY HAD A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT THAT WAS RECENTLY DEMOLISHED. INTRODUCING THE PROPOSED ZONING WOULD NOT ONLY FURTHER REMOVE ANY RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THE GRADUAL INDUSTRIAL ENCROACHMENT. ADDITIONALLY, COMMON LAND USE PRINCIPLES RECOMMEND THAT INTENSE USES ARE SEPARATED BY LOWER INTENSE USES TO BUFFER AND REDUCE THE IMPACT ON RESIDENTIAL AREAS. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AMEND THEIR SITE PLAN. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE. [00:55:02] GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS GUS GONZALEZ. UH, GGE ENGINEERING, UH, AS THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE. UH, THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY REZONED TO THE 16 BED ASSISTED LIVING A R 20, UH, WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR 16 BED. THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD AT APPROXIMATELY THAT PARCEL, I BELIEVE IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 108 HUNDRED $50,000, UH, TO THE NEW OWNER THAT WAS DONE A APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AGO. THIS NEW OWNER IS A COMMERCIAL CONTRACTOR, VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, NOT NO PIPELINE, NO ROAD, ROAD CONSTRUCTION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO, UH, AT THE COST AS AS A DEVELOPER, AS AS AT THE COST OF, OF, UH, DEVELOPING A PROPERTY, YOU GOTTA CONSIDER THE LAND VALUE. SO WHAT, WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED HERE, WHAT HE HAS PROPOSED IS SIMPLY AN OFFICE SPACE AND SOME INSIDE WAREHOUSE. IT WOULD BE A TYPICAL, UM, RESIDENT OR A TYPICAL OFFICE, UH, WAYNE'S COAT, BRICK EXTERIOR, UM, SIMPLE, UH, FLAT ROOF AND WITH, UH, NO OUTSIDE STORAGE. UH, PARKING, UH, IT'S GOT A SEPTIC TANK TO THE RIGHT OF IT IS A C TWO CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONTRACTORS FACILITY THAT THEY'RE USING AS A CONTRACTOR. TO THE LEFT IS A R 20. IT'S A SMALL, UH, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN THERE A WHILE. UH, TO THE BEHIND IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UH, OR A SCHOOL, UH, WITH A VERY TALL, UH, 10 FOOT BLOCK FENCE TO THE, TO THE, SO, SO THE IDEA WAS SIMPLY TO HAVE AN OFFICE SPACE FOR HIS USE. NORMALLY IN CON COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION, UH, ALL THE MATERIALS ARE DROPS, UH, DROP SHIP TO THE SITE FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDING. UH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA STORE ANY MATERIAL. THE WAREHOUSE IS SIMPLY FOR, UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES, SMALL, MINOR TOOLS AND, AND ANY, UH, SMALL PURCHASES AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE SITE PLAN, UH, INTERIOR. CAN YOU BRING UP THE SITE? THE, THE, THE SITE PLAN AND THE BUILDING PLAN? I THINK I HAVE ONE HERE AS WELL. YEAH. SO THIS IS, THIS IS A SITE PLAN, 20 SPACES WAREHOUSE, I MEAN OFFICE IN THE BACK, WAREHOUSE IN THE FRONT. A TYPICAL RETAIL, BASICALLY STOREFRONT, UM, WITH A DUMPSTER IN THE BACK. UM, AND SO, UH, IT, IT WAS JUST, AGAIN, HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY NOT WANTING TO DO ANY ASSISTED LIVING. IT JUST, THE NUMBERS JUST DIDN'T WORK OBVIOUSLY. AND HE'S A CONTRACTOR AND HE WANTED TO USE IT FOR DIFFERENT, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH HARMON ROAD, IT'S OFF I 10. ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE, IT'S MORE, UM, IT'S, IT'S MORE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. THAT, THAT ROAD IS KIND OF, UM, SPARSELY POPULATED TO THE, TO THE, TO, LIKE I SAID, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UH, THERE IS SOME RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH, BUT, UM, IT, IT, IF IT DOESN'T GO C TWO WITH A CONTRACTOR'S OFFICE, UH, I DON'T, YOU CAN'T, I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN GO TO I ONE AND THEN, AND, AND THE VA THE LAND VALUE'S JUST TOO EXORBITANT TO GO PUT IN A, A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THERE. I MEAN, TO GO IN AND PUT IN A, A HOUSE. SO IT, IT JUST DOESN'T, THAT HOUSE WOULD NOT CONFORM TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR THAT, THAT STREET. SO WE FEEL STRONGLY THAT, THAT THIS WILL NOT BE CONTRACTED PUBLIC INTEREST. IT SUPPORTS THE ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY ENABLING THE SMALL BUSINESS TO OPERATE IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL USES. UM, AGAIN, IT'S OFFICE SPACE AND INTERIOR STORAGE AND MATERIALS. UM, AND IT WILL NOT PERMANENTLY INJURE, APPRO, UH, INJURE THE APPROPRIATE USE OF ADJACENT CONFORMING PROPERTIES. UH, I THINK IT'S IN HARMONY OF THE SPIRIT OF THE PURPOSE OF CONDITIONAL USES AS OUTLINED IN 35 4 4 2 2. BUT AGAIN, I, I JUST DON'T SEE, IF WE CAN'T GET A, A COMMERCIAL CONTRACTOR'S OFFICE, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST USE FOR THAT PROPERTY. SO YOU HAVE A, SOME SORT OF RETURN ON, ON UH, INVESTMENT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF MY PRESENTATION. CAN WE BRING UP THE AERIAL SO THAT THE COMMISSION CAN SEE, UM, THAT, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? YEAH, SO TO THE RIGHT IS, IS A, IS A SMALL STRUCTURE USED TO TO, TO, UH, FOR CONTRACTORS YOU CAN SEE TO THE RIGHT OF THEM IS A LARGE, UH, CONTRACTOR OUTSIDE STORAGE. IN THE BACK IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, LARGE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UH, AND THEN OVER TO THE LEFT AT, AT THE INTERSECTION ABOUT BABCOCK AND HARRIMAN AGAIN, IS, IS MORE CONTRACTOR SERVICES. AND SO, UM, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. GONZALEZ. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, IN THAT CASE, AGAIN, THIS IS A DISTRICT EIGHT CASE, SO COMMISSIONER KELLY TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. UM, I WENT BY THERE AND I LIVED NEARBY AND, UH, WENT BY THERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND REALIZED THAT THE PROPERTY HAD ALREADY BEEN BASICALLY SET UP FOR REDEVELOPMENT AS THE, UH, APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. UM, SO I GUESS HE ASSUMED THAT THE ZONING WOULD BE, WOULD BE APPROVED. I, [01:00:01] UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING THAT HE WENT FORWARD BEFORE HE HAD THE ZONING RESULTS IN, BUT, UM, I DO, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, STRETCH OF HOWMAN FROM THE I 10 FRONTAGE ROAD GOING WEST, UH, TO ITS INTERSECTION WITH A STREET THAT GOES IN FRONT OF THE FREDERICK FREDERICK PARK WILDERNESS PARK. THERE. IT'S ABOUT SIX TENTHS OF A MILE AND THERE'S TWO LARGE, UH, BUILDING SUPPLY PLACES. ONE ON THE CORNER AT THE WEST END AND THEN ONE IN ABOUT MIDBLOCK. THERE'S, AS YOU GET CLOSER TO I 10, THERE'S UH, ACTUALLY AT I 10, THERE'S A LINCOLN DEALERSHIP THERE. SO, AND THERE ARE SOME, THERE ARE SOME APARTMENTS THAT ARE FILTERED IN THERE TOO. SO I BELIEVE I'M CORRECT, UH, IF I DIDN'T MISS SOMETHING DRIVING THROUGH THERE THIS MORNING, I THINK THERE'S ONE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THAT SIX TENTHS OF A MILE STRETCH. UM, AND IT'S, UH, IT'S UH, ADJACENT. BUT, UH, SO I DON'T KNOW. I THINK , AGAIN, WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE HAVING, UH, DIFFICULTY TRYING TO, UH, PROPERLY ADDRESS THE INTERFACE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND AND COMMERCIAL. UH, MOST, AS YOU SAID, I DON'T THINK ANY NEW RESIDENT WOULD BE BUILT THERE. RESIDENTS, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES SURROUNDING THAT AREA. UH, SO THAT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE THERE, BUT NOT SINGLE FAMILY. SO, UH, IT IS KIND OF A DIFFICULT SITUATION WHEN YOU HAVE A SMALL PROP PROPERTY LIKE THAT TRYING TO FIND, UH, REASONABLE USE FOR IT. SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S MY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, TO MY LEFT, YES. COMMISSIONER DUVALL, UH, TO STAFF, I SEE THAT THERE WAS A DEMOLITION PERMIT, UH, ISSUED APRIL, 2025. UM, THAT, WAS THAT THE EXTENT OF THE, UH, RECENT PERMITTING HISTORY FOR THE PROPERTY? YES. SO THAT WAS THE MOST RECENT PERMIT WAS THE DEMOLITION PERMIT. AND THERE HAVE, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY, UM, SO I GUESS BEFORE THAT, UM, HERE ON THE AERIAL VIEW, YOU CAN SEE THIS TEMPORARY OFFICE SPACE. SO THEY DID ALSO GET PERMITS FOR A TEMPORARY METER AS WELL. OKAY. AND THAT'S FOR THE POWER THAT'S GOING ON THERE, BUT TO CONFIRM THERE WASN'T ANY UN PERMITTED WORK? UM, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. GREAT. PERFECT. UM, THE, UH, ON GOOGLE STREET VIEW, THE, UH, ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE LEFT, THE, UH, WHAT IS THAT R 20 PROPERTY? I SAW THEIR, THEIR, UH, MAILBOXES FLORES ON IT. SO I'M GONNA GUESS THE FLORES FAMILY. YEAH. DID Y'ALL GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM? NO, WE, WE, WE, WHEN WENT, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS BEFORE THEY, THEY DIDN'T RESPOND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, UH, THE ORIGINAL, UH, ZONING CHANGE. AND SO YEAH, WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THEM AT ALL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. MATTER OF FACT, HE, HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FROM THE FLORES FAMILY, OR I SHOULD SAY THE ORIGINAL, THE OWNER PREVIOUS TO THIS ONE BOUGHT IT FROM THE FLORES FAMILY. OH, SO THE CURRENT, SO THE APPLICANT PURCHASED IT FROM THE FLORES? NO, THE, THE, THE PREVIOUS OWNER PURCHASED IT FROM THE FLOOR FAMILY AND THEN, YEAH, MR. POPE SOLD IT TO, UH, DJ S RESOURCES. SO WHAT, WHAT DOES THE NOTICE PROCESS ENTAIL IN THIS CASE? WHAT DID IT ENTAIL TO REACH OUT? UH, NORMALLY THEY, UH, THE ZONING ZONING, UH, DEPARTMENT GOES 200 FEET FROM EVERY CORNER, SENDS A NOTICE TO THEM, SENDS AN ACTS, ASKS THEM TO SUBMIT EITHER AN OPPOSITION OR, OR APPROVAL OR ENDORSEMENT OF THIS PROJECT. UH, THERE WERE NONE EITHER WAY FAVORED OR OPPOSED. AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT IT'S MAILED RIGHT? OR IS IT DROPPED OFF? MAILED NOTICES IS SO WE CAN ASSUME THEN THE FLOOR IS FAMILY, AT LEAST WERE SENT TO THEIR ADDRESS CORRECT. NOTICE AND HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER KELLUM, JUST A QUE QUESTION TO STAFF FOLKS. SO WHEN YOU ISSUE A DEMOLITION PERMIT IS THE ASSUMPTION, I GUESS WE KNOW THAT THE, THE, UM, THE ZONING GOES WITH THE LAND, RIGHT? BUT IS THE ASSUMPTION WHEN WE, WHEN THE DEMOLITION PERMIT IS ISSUED, THAT UH, IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GONNA BE THE, A SIMILAR USE AS IT WAS BEFORE, OR IS IT JUST A ROLL OF THE DICE TO SEE IF ZONING CHANGES? NOT NECESSARILY WHEN THEY'RE SUBMITTING FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT. UH, WE DO GET A TECHNICAL REVIEW, BUT OF OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION DOES THE REVIEW. WE DON'T REALLY STOP PEOPLE FROM DEMOING THEIR OWN BUILDINGS IF THEY LIKE TO, AS LONG AS OHP APPROVES IT. SO WE DON'T LOOK AT THE USE ITSELF WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED. [01:05:01] GOTCHA. YEAH, I THINK I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD, I THINK SOMETIMES AN APPLICANT MAY SHARE MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO, BUT NOT, NOT ALWAYS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. COMMISSIONER KELLUM. NOT EVEN MR. EVEN DR. KELLUM. GEEZ. LIKE I SAID, I'M STILL ON VACATION. ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT? QUESTIONS RIGHT? YES. COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA. UH, YES. QUESTION FOR MS. RATANA. UM, IS THERE ANY CODE VIOLATIONS, UH, AT THE PROPERTY? THERE WERE NO CODE VIOLATIONS IN THERE FOR THE APPLICANT. UH, DID Y'ALL, UH, START WORK READY OR IS IT JUST A DEMO PART THAT YOU GUYS, OR TELL ME ABOUT THAT. YEAH, UH, MR. BRIDGER'S, THE OWNER OF DJ JS, WE, WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN ANY FORM OR FASHION AS THE OWNER'S REP ON THE ZONING CASE TO WHAT HE WAS DOING ON THE PROPERTY. SO WE, WE WERE NOT IN CONTACT WITH HIM OR ADVISED HIM IN ANY WAY TO GO AHEAD AND DEMO OR PROCEED WITH THAT. THAT WAS ON HIS OWN ACCORD. SO HE DID THAT, YOU KNOW, ON HIS OWN THINKING. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OKAY. UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UH, WE DO HAVE AN AMENDED SITE PLAN FOR THIS. WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE SITE PLAN? UH, UH, WELL THE ORIGINAL ENTRANCE ROAD WAS ON THE LEFT HAND, UH, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. WE FLIPPED IT OVER TO THE RIGHT SIDE. UH, THERE IS A, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A STRIP THAT R 20 WATCH WHERE SHE HAS HER ARROW. UH, HOW DO YOU WORK THIS THING? THERE SHOULD BE A BUTTON. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. YEAH, THIS LITTLE STRIP. THERE WAS ALWAYS A DEBATE OF WHO OWNED THIS LITTLE STRIP. THIS ONE IS MR. FLORES AND THE FLOORS OWNS THIS ONE, BUT THERE IS LIKE A 20 FOOT STRIP. SO WE MOVED THIS, THIS ROADWAY HERE TO, TO THE, TO THE RIGHT OF THE PROPERTY. UH, THIS IS THE BACKSIDE AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S, THERE'S ANOTHER, THERE'S ANOTHER STRIP HERE, A BUFFER, BUT THIS IS A BUFFER AND THEN THIS IS A ROAD AND THEN THIS IS THE CONTRACT. SO WE JUST BASICALLY FLIPPED, UH, THE ENTRANCE FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER AND ADDED THAT 15 FOOT BUFFER, CORRECT? UH, YES. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. YES SIR. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. UH, LAST GO AROUND QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT. SEEING NONE. OH, COMMISSIONER KELLY. UH, QUICK QUESTION. UH, OR IS THIS A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD, UH, IMPOSE CONDITION? YES, YES. IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST SO YOU CAN ADD CONDITIONS. OKAY. UH, HAVE Y'ALL CONSIDERED THE LIGHTING OR WE IN, IS YOU? UH, ABSOLUTELY. NO, WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED IT AT THIS POINT. WE'RE JUST IN PRELIMINARY PHASE FOR ARCHITECTURAL, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE ALWAYS AMENABLE TO ANY KIND OF, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS, BUT YEAH, WE, WE, THOSE CAN BE, UH, UH, DIRECTED ANY WHICH WAY YOU, YOU CARE TO. OKAY. I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELLY, UH, STAFF TO YOU. QUESTION. MLOD ONE ALREADY REQUIRE CERTAIN LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS, CORRECT? 90 DEGREE FACING LIGHTING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT QUESTIONS? RIGHT. ALRIGHT. SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KELLY TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION. WELL, ONCE AGAIN, , WE'RE BACK, UH, IN AN ISSUE OF TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR AN INTERFACE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL OR DESIRED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL. UM, I THINK GIVEN THAT THE, THIS PORTION OF HIREMAN, A LOT OF THESE, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED, I BELIEVE BEFORE THIS AREA WAS, WAS, UH, ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. I BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED IN 1998. IF I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE THE RECORD, BUT I LIVED JUST DOWN THE ROAD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I LIVE IN WAS ANNEXED IN 1998. SO I'M THINKING THAT WAS WHEN THIS AREA WAS ANNEXED. SO PRIOR TO THAT, THE PROPERTIES WERE ALL OUT IN THE COUNTY AND UNFORTUNATELY, IN MY OPINION, THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T GIVE THE COUNTY ENOUGH, UH, ZONING POWER TO CONTROL THINGS PERIPHERAL TO EXISTING CITIES, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE. BUT, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GOT TWO LARGE, UH, BUILDING SUPPLY COMPANIES ALONG THERE. WE'VE GOT OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES AS WELL AND APARTMENTS AS WE GO FURTHER DOWN THE STREET, ENDING UP WITH A DEALERSHIP THERE. SO, UH, AS, AS DIFFICULT AS THE SITUATION IS, I THINK I'M GOING TO, UH, SUPPORT THE IDEA OF APPROVING THIS REQUEST. ALRIGHT. UH, IS THAT A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL? [01:10:01] SORRY, I, UM, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS REQUEST. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT. THERE IS A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. UM, DISCUSSION LEFT. YES. COMMISSIONER ELL. SO, UH, WHEN I LOOK AT THE GOOGLE MAPS, IF WE SAY WEST, UH, ERMAN, THE FOUR LOTS ON THE WEST END OF ERMAN, YOU'VE GOT BUILDING MATERIALS, THIS PROPERTY CONTRACTOR, AND THEN THE ONE RESIDENTIAL LOT, THAT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SIZED LOT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALK ABOUT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT, I MEAN, IT ALREADY IS VERY MUCH AN AREA IN TRANSITION. UM, AND THERE'S A RELATIVELY, UH, SMALL NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS. THERE'S RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, ON THE FAR SIDE CLOSER TO THE, THE, THE FREEWAY. UM, BUT AT LEAST HERE ON THIS ROAD, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT RANCH LAND ON ONE SIDE AND THESE USES ON THE OTHER SIDE. UM, SO MORE SO THAN IT BEING A CONCERN ABOUT AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M REALLY JUST KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE FLORES. UM, SO I, I, YOU KNOW, I, WE CAN'T CONDITION THIS, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'D RECOMMEND BEFORE GOING TO, UH, BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL, TO, TO REACH OUT TO THE FLORES AND JUST GET THEIR FEEDBACK. 'CAUSE THE ONE THING THAT I COULD SEE THIS GOING WRONG IS IF THE FLORES IS FOR WHATEVER REASON, DIDN'T WANT TO BE SURROUNDED BY, UH, BUILDING MATERIALS AND, AND, AND CONTRACTORS. BUT IF THEY DON'T CARE, WELL THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN, THEN IT'S KIND OF A MOOD ISSUE BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY THE DIRECTION THIS SIDE OF THE STREET SEEMS TO BE GOING. SO, BUT WITH THAT, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. DISCUSSION LEFT. SEEING NONE. DISCUSSION. RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX BY COMMISSIONER KELLY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER KELLUM? YES. COMMISSIONER LO? YES. COMMISSIONER NOOSA? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY AYE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. COMMISSIONER VILLE. AYE. COMMISSIONER WHITSETT? YES. COMMISSIONER PANA? YES. CHAIR BUSANTE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES ALL VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, [Approval of Minutes  ] UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES, CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 3RD, 2026 ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES, ANY ADDITI EDITS? ANYTHING PEOPLE WANT TO ADD TO THE MINUTES? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE. LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED. I SECOND IT AND THAT WAS COMMISSIONER SIPES. OKAY. UH, THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED BY COMM COMMISSIONER SIPES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ. UH, THIS CAN BE DONE BY ACCLAMATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. ALRIGHT, ANY ABSTENTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALRIGHT. UH, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. IS THERE A [Director’s Report  ] DIRECTOR'S REPORT? UM, JUST TWO ITEMS. SO AS PER CITY COUNCIL REQUEST, UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING A BRIEFING ON UDC AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF DETENTION FACILITIES WITHIN CITY LIMITS. IT WILL BE, UM, ADDED TO OUR WORK SESSION AND OUR AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING ON FOUR SEVEN. SO YOU GUYS WILL BE NOTIFIED AND GIVEN, UH, PRIOR DOCUMENTATION, UM, AND ALL THAT. AND THEN LASTLY, THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING WITH VOICEMAILS. SO, UM, IT WILL GO INTO EFFECT STARTING APRIL 1ST. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT LAST, THE, AT LEAST OUR LAST VOICEMAILS SEEM PRETTY JOVIAL THIS MEETING AROUND. SO YEAH, THEY WERE HAPPY GOING OUT WITH A BANG. ALRIGHT. UM, MR. CHAIR, CAN I VERY GOOD ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION. YES. COMMISSIONER DUB, YOU MAY, UH, FOR THE WORK SESSION, SO IS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTED TO DURING THE WORK SESSION OR DOES THAT INVOLVE US MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON THE STAFF? THE RECOMMENDATION WILL BE DURING THE PUBLIC MEETING, THE MEETING ITSELF, NOT AT WORK SESSION, BUT WE COULD PRESENT, WE WILL BE DOING A BRIEFING JUST TO GIVE YOU INPUT, BUT AGAIN, WE WILL BE SENDING YOU PRIOR DOCUMENTATION AND THE HEARING OR THE, THE HEARING ON THE ITEM WILL BE AT THE SAME SESSION AS THE WORK SESSION. IT WILL BE DURING THE PUBLIC MEETING AFTER THE WORK SESSION. GREAT, THANK YOU. OKAY, COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S UP? SO I DID HEAR YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA SEND US PRIOR DOCUMENTATION. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEND US AT THIS POINT OR IT'LL MOST LIKELY BE THE UDC AMENDMENTS? [01:15:01] YEAH. AT THIS POINT IN TIME IT'S STILL BEING FINALIZED, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE COPIES OF WHATEVER IT IS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED IN ADVANCE. ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? COMMISSIONER SIPES? WILL WE BE STARTING AT NOON VERSUS 1230? I'M JUST SAYING IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD LIKE A PRESENTATION WHERE WE'VE, AND, AND A LOT OF MORE, YOU KNOW, NEWER COMMISSIONERS. YEAH, I, GOOD ONE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO IT. YEAH, I MEAN, JUST KE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE PURPOSE OF A WORK SESSION IS NOT TO DELIBERATE. IT'S CERTAINLY TO ASK QUESTIONS. SO IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT IS AN ITEM THAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED ADDITIONAL TIME FOR, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXTENSIVE AMENDMENTS, UM, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY PLAY IT SAFE AND MOVE IT UP TO NOON IF Y'ALL FEEL THAT'S APPROPRIATE. I'M, I'M GONNA INVOKE THE, UH, IMPROPER INTERPRETATION OF THE SOLOMONIC RULE AND SAY WE'RE GONNA SPLIT THE BABY AND SAY 1215, WE'LL START WORK SESSION AT 1215 . THAT WORKS. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF DIRECTOR'S REPORT? LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE. ALRIGHT. IN THAT CASE, THE TIME IS TWO 16. THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.