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          >> MUNGIA: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. WE'LL BEGIN. 
          THE TIME IS NOW 2:01 P.M. ON MARCH 30TH, 2026 IN THE MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. 
          MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> CLERK: 
          CHAIR, WE HAVE QUORUM. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'LL JUST NOTE, SHE'LL BE A LITTLE LATE, BUT WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER OF OUR 
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COMMITTEE -- FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER TODAY. THE FIRST ORDER IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. CAN I GET A MOTION AND APPROVAL? MOATIONZ AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) 
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          >> MUNGIA: ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE SOME FOLKS SIGNED UP. 
          FIRST PERSON SIGNED UP FOR ITEM NUMBER 3 IS TYLER FERGUSON. 
          YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS TYLER FERGUSON, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF BLUEPRINT MINISTRIES, A NONPROFIT SERVING LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS IN SAN ANTONIO FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AND WE'RE ALSO A PARTNER IN NHSD'S MINOR HOME REHAB PROGRAM. WANTED TO COME TODAY TO BOTH EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE WORK REFLECTED IN THE SPECIAL HOUSING SUPPLY TASK FORCE REPORT AND MORE BROADLY, BECAUSE ANY TIME HOUSING IS DISCUSSED, I FEEL AN IMMENSE RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE VOICE TO THE OVER 60 LOW-INCOME HOMEOWNERS THAT WE WORK WITH EVERY DAY. AS YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING CRISIS IN SAN ANTONIO CANNOT BE ATTRIBUTED TO ONE SPECIFIC PROBLEM, BUT IS RATHER MULTIFACETED, REQUIRING A MULTIFACETED SOLUTION. 
          BLUEPRINT MINISTRIES IS GRATEFUL FOR THE EFFORT THAT NHSD HAS PUT INTO THE SPECIAL HOUSING SUPPLY TASK FORCE REPORT AS WE'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND THAT WHILE THE HOUSING CRISIS AFFECTS EVERYONE, ALREADY MARGINALIZED GROUPS ARE ABSOLUTELY HIT THE HARDEST. I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND YOU OF THE IMPORTANCE THAT PRESERVING AND RESTORING OUR EXISTING HOUSING STOCK PLAYS IN THE OVERALL GOALS OUTLINED NOT JUST IN THIS REPORT, BUT IN THE BROADERSHIP. BROADER SHIP. 
          WE WORK WITH OVER 60 HOMEOWNERS EVERY YEAR WHOSE MI -- AUDIO] -- WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING. THINGS LIKE ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION, SUPPORT FOR RENTERS AND PROGRAMS AIMED AT HOUSING THE UNHOUSED ARE ALL EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE THOUSANDS OF SEVERELY COST-BURDENED HOMEOWNERS LOCATED WITHIN A TWO-MILE RADIUS OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          MOST OF US THINK OF HOME OWNERSHIP AS THE GOAL, AND YET FOR MANY EXTREMELY LOW INCOME HOMEOWNERS IN OUR CITY, STAYING IN THE HOME THAT THEY'VE OWNED FOR DECADES IS OFTEN THE ONLY THING STANDING BETWEEN THEM AND EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. YOUR INVESTMENT IN THE MINOR HOME PROGRAM AND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE BLUEPRINTED HAS MADE AN IMPACT. 
          HOWEVER RESTORING OUR SUBSTANDARD HOWSESING SUPPLY IS NOT A QUICK TASK, IT'S GOING TO TAKE DECADES AS WE GO HOUSE TO HOUSE MAKING THE REPAIRS THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO LIVE SAFELY AND WITH DIGNITY. 
          YOUR COMMITMENT TO SOLVING OUR HOUSING CRISIS IS UNMATCHED COMPARED TO NEARLY EVERY OTHER CITY OF OUR SIDES AS I'M REMINDED OFTEN BY OUR COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO HAVE VERY ENVY US TO OUR CITY'S COMMITMENT TO SUBSTANDARD HOUSING. AND YET I HUMBLY ASK TODAY AS AS THESE IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS TAKE PLACE AROUND HOUSING,  THAT YOU NOT FORGET THESE HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE LIVING IN UNSAFE, UNLEGAL THINK AND UNDIGNIFIED CONDITIONS WHO OFTENTIMES FLY UNDER 
          THE RADAR. THANK YOU. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. 
          UP NEXT, FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WE HAVE ISABEL GALVAN. 
          >> >> SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY SO I'M GOING TO READ HER COMMENT WITH HER PERMISSION. IF THAT'S OKAY? 
          >> CLERK: AND WHAT IS YOUR NAME? >> LUIS SANATVONIOS. 
          >> CLERK: YES, WE PUT YOU DOWN BUT YOU ONLY GET THREE MINUTES FOR BOTH IMYOUR COMMENTS AND HERS. SHE'S NOT HERE, SO SHE 
          DOESN'T GET TIME. >> THAT'S FINE. SHOULD I COME BACK WHEN 
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          IT'S MY TURN? >> MUNGIA: YOU CAN GO NOW. 
          >> I'M READING THIS ON BEHALF OF ISABEL GALVAN, A PASSIONATE TENANT ADVOCATE AND VOUCHER HOLDER FROM DISTRICT ONE WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY DUE TO HAVING THE FLU. HELLO, MY NAME IS ISABEL GALVAN AND I SERVED AS A LEAD TENANT AND HOUSING JUSTICE ORGANIZER FOR THE COALITION FOR TENANT JUSTICE AND HOUSING ADVOCATE FOR THE COALITION FOR DIGNIFIED HOUSING WHICH INCLUDES THE ESPERANZA PEACE AND JUSTICE CENTER -- TEAM AND I CANVASSED OVER 1100 UNITS AND NOT ONE OF THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ENCOUNTERED KNEW WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN REGARDS TO MIXED FAMILY OR MOVING TO WORK. NOR HAD THEY EVEN HEARD OF THE MOVING TO WORK PROGRAM. THAT ALONE TELLS ME OUTREACH WAS NOT DONE PROPERLY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS POORLY EXECUTED. 
          I WOULD IMPLORE YOU TO REQUEST THAT OPPORTUNITY HOME -- AUDIO] -- OVER 65,000 RESIDENTS SERVED BY OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO, HOW MANY RESIDENTS ACTUALLY ENGAGED IN THIS PLAN? HOW MANY PROVIDED FEEDBACK, HOW MANY COMPLEX INFO SEXE SESSIONS DID THEY HOLD SINCE A LOT OF RESIDENTS DO NOT HAVE TRANSPORTATION OR OF LIMITED MOBILITY, AND I'M ASKING FOR ACTUAL NUMBERS WITH PROOF. WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE AT HOME, WHAT OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO IS PROPOSING AND THE MOVING TO WORK PROGRAM ISN'T JUST POLICY, IT'S A DETRIMENT THAT IS GOING TO DEEPLY AND NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITIES IN A VERY REAL WAY. MOVING TO WORK AND RED THREATEN TO STABILIZE HUNDREDS OF HOUSEHOLDS WHO ARE COMPLIANT, PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE AND ALREADY NAVIGATING THROUGH AN EXTREMELY COMPLEX SYSTEM. 
          THESE ARE FAMILIES, MOST WITH CHILDREN AND MANY WITH DISABILITIES WHO WILL LOSE THEIR HOMES. AND HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, INSTEAD OF PROTECTING PEOPLE FROM THE INSTABILITY, WE'RE HEARING PROPOSALS FOR MOVING IN A DIRECTION THAT COULD MAKE THINGS SO MUCH WORSE. 
          TAKING A I WAY NEGATIVE RENT, LOSSES SUPPORT WHO HELPS KEEP THEIR LIGHTS ON WHILE STILL BEING REQUIRED TO PAY THOSE UTILITIES. 
          THAT'S NOT EFFICIENCY, THAT'S PUSHING THE BURDEN ON TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY GIVING EVERYTHING THEY CAN. MOST OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGES GO BEYOND SAFETY. THEY EVEN GO SO FAR AS TO LIMIT HOW RESIDENTS COMMUNICATE, ORGANIZE AND EVEN PROTECT THEMSELVES. 
          THAT IN ITSELF SHOULD CONCERN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. 
          THEN THERE'S RED, AND NO MATTER HOW IT'S FRAMED, IT BRINGS IN PRIVATE FINANCING AND LONG-TERM UNCERTAINTY INTO A SYSTEM THAT WAS MEANT TO STAY PUBLIC AND PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE. THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT FOLLOWING A PROGRAM, IT'S ABOUT THE DIRECTION WE'RE CHOOSING, BECAUSE WHAT SAN ANTONIO DOES HERE WITH PUBLIC HOUSING WILL SET THE TONE FOR THE ENTIRE NATION. OTHER CITIES WILL FOLLOW, AND THE IMPACT WILL BE MUCH MORE DYSTOPIAN THAN WE CAN IMAGINE. WE SHOULDN'T BE MAKING IT HARDER TO SURVIVE IN IT. PLEASE I URGE YOU TO FIGHT HARD FOR PUBLIC HOUSING, DON'T TAKE US DOWN THIS PATH, KEEP PUBLIC HOUSING PUBLIC. 
          THANK YOU. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SUBMIT MRS. GALVAN'S COMMENTS FOR THE RECORDS, WE CAN TAKE THAT AS WELL. 
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          UP NEXT IS LETICIA SANCHEZ. >> HI. 
          MY NAME IS LETICIA SANCHEZ AND I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION, WHICH INCLUDES HOMEOWNERS, RENTERS AND PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENTS. 
          WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ON OPPORTUNITY HOMES STRATEGIC PLAN THAT INCLUDES SOME PROPOSALS, POLICY CHANGES, THAT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT RESIDENTS AND ULTIMATELY WILL ADD TO OUR CITY'S HOUSING CRISIS. 
          AS OUR CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES, YOU ARE TASKED TO OVERSEE THE SHIP, WHICH STATES THAT HOUSING FOR RESIDENTS EARNING 30% AMI AND BELOW IS THE HOUSING OF GREATEST NEED. THE POLICY CHANGES BEING PROPOSED BY OPPORTUNITY HOME WILL DO NOTHING TO HELP REDUCE HOUSING FOR -- REDUCE THE HOUSING CRISIS FOR THIS POPULATION, AND WILL, IN FACT, REMOVE PROTECTIONS THAT PUBLIC HOUSING ENSURES TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. THE MISSION OF HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCH AS OPPORTUNITY HOME IS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR LOW-INCOME FAMILIES, SENIOR CITIZENS, AND DISABLED INDIVIDUAL WHOSE CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING IN THE REGULAR MARKET, TO HELP STABILIZE HOUSING SITUATIONS AND PREVENT INDIVIDUALS FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. 
          HOWEVER, THE POLICIES THAT OPPORTUNITY HOME PROPOSES WILL CHANGE ITS MISSION FROM SERVING LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS AND HOUSEHOLDS AT THE LOWEST INCOME LEVELS TO ALL RESIDENTS. THIS GOES AGAINST THE 
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MISSION OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, WHICH OVERSEES HOUSING FOR THOSE AT THE LOWEST INCOME LEVELS. THE PROPOSAL TO CONVERT PUBLIC HOUSING TO RENTAL ASSISTANCE DEMONSTRATION OR RAD HOUSING WOULD REMOVE  PROTECTIONS THAT ENSURE HOUSING FOR INDIVIDUALS AND HOUSEHOLDS MOST IN NEED OF HOUSING ASSISTANCE. SAN ANTONIO'S PUBLIC HOUSING IS ONE OF THE GREATEST SAFEGUARDS THAT EXISTS FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. 
          ELIMINATING PUBLIC HOUSING WOULD ONLY ENSURE THAT MORE OF OUR RESIDENTS WOULD BECOME HOMELESS. I -- BORN IN 1923, SHE LIVED THROUGH THE DEPRESSION AND SHE SAW THIS CONSTRUCTION OF THE ALAZON COURTS THAT WAS DURING THE DEPRESSION, WHICH WE MAY BE SEEING SOON IN OUR COUNTRY. TO ELIMINATE THESE PUBLIC HOUSING BY CONVERTING TO RAD WOULD BE THE GREATEST MISTAKE OUR CITY MAKES. 
          I KNOW OPPORTUNITY HOME WILL ARGUE THAT RAD IS A GOOD OPTION WITH MAINTAINING THEIR OPPORTUNITIES, HOWEVER CITIES AND HOUSING AUTHORITIES THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO CONVERT TO RAD HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS. ONCE WE LOSE THE HOUSING -- PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS, WE LOSE THE PROTECTIONS THAT COME WITH THIS TYPE OF HOUSING. IN ADDITION TO PROPOSING CONVERTING PUBLIC HOUSING TO RAD, OPPORTUNITY HOME IS PROPOSING TO ELIMINATE PAYMENT AGREEMENTS FOR THOSE WITH PAST DUE BALANCES. WE'VE COME ACROSS MANY RESIDENT BHOS HAVE OUTSTANDING -- WHO HAVE OUTSTANDING BALANCES DUE TO HEALTH ISSUES, MAINTENANCE FEES AND OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND THEIR CONTROL. IF THIS PROPOSAL IS APPROVED, INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WORKING TO PAY OFF THEIR BALANCES WILL END UP IN EVICTION COURT AND WILL ADD TO THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS IN OUR CITY. I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE -- WE, OUR ASSOCIATION, ASK THAT YOU PLEASE HELP TO GUIDE OPPORTUNITY HOME IN MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION. THANK YOU. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. UP NEXT IS OLIVIA CRUZ. >> 
          >> PUBLIC HOUSING FOR MANY YEARS AND IT'S NOT A GOOD OPTION. 
          ALL OF THE PROPOSED POLICY CHANGES THAT ARE BEING  MADE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. IT'S VERY STRESSFUL WHEN THEY TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CUT PUBLIC HOUSING AWAY FROM YOU AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH FAMILY OR MONEY, AND YOU FEEL A LITTLE POWERLESS WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR WORLD IS SHUTTING DOWN. THERE'S YEARS AGO I WAS ABLE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HOUSING APARTMENT, THANKS TO MY SON WHO WAS A U.S. CITIZEN. 
          I PAID MY RENT AND HE WOULD RECEIVE THE DISCOUNT FOR HIS APARTMENT. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A DOMESTIC HOUSEWORKER AND I KEEP WORKING IN THE SAME PROFESSION, AND AT THAT TIME MY SALARY WAS ABOUT 15 TO $30 A DAY CLEANING TWO HOMES, IF I WAS LUCKY. 
          BUT BARELY EARNED ENOUGH TO PAY MY RENT AND MY LIGHTS. 
          HAD I NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO RENT AT AN OPPORTUNITY HOME PUBLIC HOUSING UNIT, MY CHILDREN AND I WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE STREETS, BUT THANKS TO THAT, I WAS ABLE TO RAISE MY CHILDREN AND BOTH OF THEM GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE. 
          ONE IS ACTIVE IN THE MILITARY AND MY DAUGHTER HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE 
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IN INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS. IF THESE PUBLIC POLICIES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING GO INTO EFFECT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW MIXED THAT IS FAMILIES TO RENT. AND A LOT OF FAMILIES WOULD BE LEFT UNPROTECTED, A LOT OF CHILDREN LEFT WITHOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO -- TO OVERCOME AND HAVE ACCESS TO A DIGNIFIED HOUSING. THANK YOU. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. UP NEXT IS JASMIN HERRERA. 
          >> SORRY, LET ME JUST MOVE THIS CLOSER. HELLO. 
          MY NAME IS -- OKAY. MY NAME IS JASMIN HERRERA, I'M WITH THE COALITION FOR DIGNIFIED HOUSING AT ESPARANZA PEACE AND JUSTICE CENTER. I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO HELP US PUSH BACK AGAINST THE CHANGES THAT OPPORTUNITY HOME IS TRYING TO MAKE. 
          FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF -- ONE OF THEM PROHIBITS DOOR KNOCKING AND THE FLYER IN THE PROPERTIES AT A PROMOTER AND ACTIVE RESIDENT OF THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THESE CONNECTIONS WITH OUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS STRONG. WE'VE ALREADY MADE SUCH GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM AND STOPPING THAT WOULD BUILD UP A WALL BETWEEN US, AMPLIFYING THE BARRIERS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN OUR COM COMMUNITY. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DOOR KNOCK AND PUT FLYERS, WE -- THEY'RE ABOUT -- THEY'RE IMPORTANT ISSUES IN THE CITY LIKE SAN ANTONIO'S COAL NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT, OUR NEW NEIGHBORHOOD JAM LIKE THE [INDISCERNIBLE] WEST SIDE. 
          RESOURCES, RESIDENT ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, ORAL HISTORY AND [INDISCERNIBLE] THAT HELP PEOPLE ROOT TO THEIR HISTORY AND GIVE OUR AND PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THEM, FROM US, AND SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE 
          CONNECTIONS. THANK YOU. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. 
          UP NEXT WE HAVE ALEJANDRA LOPEZ. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS ALEJANDRA LOPEZ AND I SERVE AS THE PROUD PRESIDENT OF THE SAN ANTONIO ALLIANCE OF TEACHERS AND SUPPORT PERSONNEL, THE UNION THAT REPRESENTS WORKERS IN SAN ANTONIO ISD. 
          OUR BEAUTIFUL, DIVERSE SCHOOL DISTRICT COVERS THE URBAN CORE OF SAN ANTONIO AND IS LARGELY WORKING CLASS COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. 
          OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, SAISD HAS EXPERIENCED DECLINING STUDENT ENROLLMENT ATTRIBUTED IN PART TO THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AVAILABLE IN OUR DISTRICT. THIS DECLINE IN ENROLLMENT HAS LED TO SCHOOL CLOSURES, SCHOOL BUILDINGS IN DESPERATE NEED OF MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS AND CUTS TO STAFF AND SERVICES. 
          ONE OF OUR CORE PRINCIPLES IS THAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS BELONG TO THE PEOPLE, THAT THEY ARE A CORNERSTONE OF OUR DEMOCRACY  AND THEY'RE ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING PUBLIC GOODS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          IT IS NO SURPRISE THEY ARE UNDER CONSTANT ATTACK FROM PRO PRIVATIZATION FORCES FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLES. FROM THE RISE OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S SCHEME SPEAKING TO DISMANTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS PIECE BY PIECE. WE SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE DOMAIN OF PUBLIC HOUSING IS STRAIGHT FROM THE SAME PRIVATIZATION PLAYBOOK AS WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN PUBLIC EDUCATION. FIRST THEY DIVEST AND UNDERFUND A VITAL PUBLIC GOOD, IN THIS CASE PUBLIC HOUSING. 
          THIS MAKES IT INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO KEEP UP WITH RISING COSTS SUCH AS MAINTENANCE AND IT DEFINITELY DOESN'T LEAVE ANY MONEY TO EXPAND NECESSARY PROGRAMS. IT'S WITHIN THIS SCARCITY MINDSET THAT THEY THEN INCENTIVE PROGRAMS THAT INTRODUCE ELEMENTS OF PRIVATIZATION. 
          MORE MONEY FROM TEA FROM PARTNERING WITH AN OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY. 
          THIS INCENTIVIZATION OPENS THE DOOR FOR PUBLIC DOLLARS TO END UP IN THE 
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HANDS OF PRIVATE CORPORATIONS. AS WE PREPARE TO KICK OFF OUR HOUSING MONTH, LET'S LOOK AT THE PUBLIC IMPACTS TO OUR COMMUNITIES. WILL FAMILIES BE FORCED TO MOVE? WILL WE SEE A FURTHER EXODUS OF SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN FROM SAN ANTONIO ISD LEADING TO MORE SCHOOL CLOAR SURES. OUR YOON RON FIRMLY BELIEVES IN THE INTERCONNECTEDNESS OF OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          PLEASE TRUST ME WE'RE ALREADY STRETCHED THIN MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS. WE KNOW THAT ISSUES LIKE HOMELESS AND HOUSING INSECURITY SHOW UP EVERY DAY IN OUR CLASSROOMS. LET'S NOT FURTHER DESTABILIZE OUR COMMUNITY. OPPOSE THE FURTHER PRIVATIZATION OF OUR PUBLIC HOUSING. THANK YOU. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. UP NEXT IS M MELODY MIRANDA. 
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          YOU'LL NOW HAVE SIX MINUTES. >>   MY NAME IS MELODY MIRANDA AND I'M 16 YEARS OLD. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT AT ALAZAN APACHE COURTS HALF OF MY LIFE. I'M A STRAIGHT A STUDENT, I'VE COMPLETED THREE FELLOWSHIPS AND I'M CURRENTLY ON MY FOURTH WITH UP LEADERS OF TOMORROW. I HOPE TO GO TO ST. 
          MARY'S AND BECOME A LAWYER. WHEN I PASS THE BAR, I'LL BE BRINGING THE SKILLS BACK TO OUR BY LOVED WEST SIDE. 
          BECAUSE  I LOVE PUBLIC HOUSING I'M SPEAKING TODAY BECAUSE DECISIONS YOU MAKE ABOUT HOUSING DON'T JUST AFFECT ADULTS, THEY AFFECT ME, MY FRIENDS, MY CLASS PLATES, AND THE FUTURE OF OUR ENTIRE GENERATION. 
          I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE -- I ZERO KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE DECISION-MAKING POWER AT THIS COMMITTEE, BUT I'M ASKING YOU TO STAND WITH US, THE RESIDENTS. WE ARE TOLD THAT TO SUCCEED, WE NEED TO STAY IN SCHOOL AND WORK HARD, BUT IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FOCUS ON A CHEMISTRY TEST OR AN ESSAY WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOUR FAMILY WILL BE EVICTED NEXT MONTH. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHANGES BEING PROPOSED AT OPPORTUNITY HOMES IN LIMITING NEGATIVE RENTS OR CITY REIMBURSEMENTS WILL HURT THE MOST VULNERABLE ZERO-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. 
          IF A FAMILY CAN'T PAY FOR WATER OR ELECTRICITY, THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR LEASE, AND IT'S NOT A HEALTHY WAY TO LIVE. WE'RE NECESSARILY SETTING FAMILIES UP TO FAIL. SIMILARLY, ANY REPAYMENT AGREEMENTS CREATES A ZERO TOLERANCE WHILE THAT LEADS TO MORE HOMELESSNESS. 
          IF A FAMILY FAILS -- FALLS BEHIND DUE TO AN EMERGENCY, THEY SHOULD HAVE A WAY TO CATCH UP WITHOUT LOSING THEIR ROOF. 
          PUBLIC HOUSING ISN'T JUST A SAFETY NET. FOR MANY OF MY PEERS, IT'S THE ONLY REASON THEY HAVE A STABLE PLACE TO SLEEP. 
          I'M AGAINST THE PROPOSED RESTRICTIONS ON SOLICITATION. 
          I'M OKAY WITH SALES NOT BEING ALLOWED, BUT THIS DEFINITION OF SOLICITATION IS JUST NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS. 
          WHEN YOU BAN PEOPLE FROM KNOCKING ON DOORS, YOU AREN'T JUST STOPPING SALES, YOU'RE STOPPING COMMUNITY GROUPS FROM SHARING RESOURCES, CHECKING ON ELDERLY OR INVITING US TO YOUTH PROGRAMS. THESE RULES MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FEEL LIKE PRISONS INSTEAD OF COMMUNITIES. PLEASE RESERVE OUR RIGHT TO CONNECT AND SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER. 
          IT'S FRAMED AS A WAY TO FUND REPAIRS, RAD IS ESSENTIALLY THE PRIVATIZATION OF OUR PUBLIC LAND. WHEN WE MOVE PUBLIC HOUSING INTO PRIVATE HANDS, WE LOSE TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC OVERSIGHT. ONCE THE DEED IS IN LOCAL HANDS, EVEN THOUGH THEY END OR TO PROMISE TO KEEP IT PUBLIC, IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO WHOEVER THE LEADERSHIP HAPPENS TO BE AT THE TIME. HISTORY SHOWS THAT PRIVATIZATION OFTEN LEADS TO DISPLACEMENT FOR A TEENAGER, MOVING, ISN'T JUST CHANGE OF ADDRESS, IT MEANS LOSING YOUR SCHOOL, YOUR FRIENDS AND YOUR COMMUNITY. WE SHOULDN'T BE GAMBLING WITH CIVILITY OF SAN ANTONIO FAMILIES JUST TO HAVE A DIFFERENT FUNDING MODEL. 
          I'M ASKING YOU TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, AND LOOK FOR VIABLE ALTERNATIVES THAT KEEP RESIDENTS SAFE AND IN THEIR HOMES. HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT. AS A YOUNG PERSON, I'M ASKING YOU TO CHOOSE STABILITY OVER ADMINISTRATIVE EFFICACY. PLEASE HELP US EXPRESS 
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THE OSHA THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS AND REJECT POLICIES THAT MAKE 
          IT HARDER FOR FAMILIES TO STAY SAFE. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL WHO CAME OUT TO SPEAK AND TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR BUSY DAY AND WORK AND SCHOOL TO BE HERE, AND SPEAKING ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. 
          WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH WILL BE INTERVIEWS FOR THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD. IS THERE A STAFF PRESENTATION? YES, GO AHEAD. COME ON U SORRY. 
          >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, MY NAME IS ERIN HAHN. I'M WITH TEXAS HOUSING HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4. 
          OPPORTUNITY HOME IS THE PRIMARY PROVIDER OF DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE CITY'S LOWEST INCOME RESIDENTS. WHILE WE RECOGNIZE ONGOING FUNDING CHALLENGES, THAT ROLE AND THE PERMANENCE AND PROTECTIONS THAT DEFINE PUBLIC HOUSING SHOULD BE PRESERVED IN ANY MAJOR POLICY SHIFT. REPOSITIONING PUBLIC HOUSING THROUGH RAD AND PROJECT-BASED VOUCHERS -- SHIFT. BY ALLOWING OWNERSHIP STRUCTURES INVOLVING PRIVATE ENTITIES TO TO SALETY LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT WHICH ARE USED IN ROUGHLY HALF OF RAD CONVERSIONS NATIONALLY, THIS OPENS THE DOOR TO RISK OF INSTABILITY FOR TENANTS. WHEN AFFORDABILITY BECOMES TIED TO HOUSING VOUCHER SYSTEMS AND DEPEND ON FUTURE FEDERAL APPROPRIATIONS, PERMANENTSY IS NO LONGER GUARANTEED AND CONTINGENT ON THINGS OUTSIDE OF LOCAL CONTROL. 80% OF AMI, A SIGNIFICANT SHIFT OF PUBLIC HOUSING'S FOCUS OF INCOMES BELOW 30% OF AMI. 
          IF REPOSITIONED, PUBLIC HOUSING MOVES FORWARD, STRONG SAFEGUARDS WILL BE ESSENTIAL, ONE FOR ONE, REPLACEMENT OF DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS, A BINDING RIGHT TO RETURN TO A COMPARABLE UNIT, LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY BEYOND CONTRACT PERIODS, MEANINGFUL ONGOING RESIDENT ENGAGEMENT IN EDUCATION AND TRANSPARENT PUBLIC REPORTING. AND IMPORTANTLY, NATIONAL EVIDENCE SHOWS US THAT PROTECTIONS ON PAPER DON'T ALWAYS TRANSLATE INTO PRACTICE WHEN IT COMES TO RAD CONVERSIONS. 
          RESIDENTS HAVE TO FACE BARRIERS AFTER RETURNING AFTER RAD BARRIERS. 
          EXECUTION REALLY MATTERS. SECOND, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC HOUSING LEASE THAT WOULD UNDERMINE TENANTS RIGHTS. IT WOULD RESTRICT -- PROPOSED BAN ON RECORDING WOULD CONFLICT WITH TEXAS ONE-PARTY CONSENT LAW AND DOCUMENT HARASSMENT, DISCRIMINATION, WE RECOMMEND LIMITING THE SOLICITATION POLICY. AND FINALLY E LEM NATING REPAYMENT SHIFTS AWAY [INDISCERNIBLE] SMALL DEBTS ARE OFTEN THE RESULTS OF TEMPORARY HARDSHIP AND THE OPTION TO REPAY OVERTIME PREVENTS AVOIDABLE [INDISCERNIBLE] SHOULD STRIVE TO PRESERVE HOUSING AT THE SAME LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY WITH THE SAME RIGHTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR 
          CONSIDERATION. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, ERIN. 
          DID WE MISS ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I WANT TO MAKE SURE? 
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GOING ONCE? GOING TWICE? OKAY. 
          WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH WILL BE INTERVIEWS FOR THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD. IS THERE A PRESENTATION? 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M JAIME NIETO, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK. 
          I WILL BE PRESENTING BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD AND OUR OVERALL PROCESS. THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD IS A QUASI JUDICIAL -- LARGE. BOARD MEMBERS MUST FALL INTO ONE OF THE FOLLOWING SEVEN CATEGORIES. ARCHITECT, ENGINEER, GENERAL CONTRACTOR, SOCIAL WORKER, HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL, RETIRED OVER 64, OR U.S. MILITARY VETERAN. A PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY MANAGER MAY SERVE IN PLACE OF EITHER A GENERAL CONTRACTOR OR SOCIAL WORKER. 
          EACH MEMBER HAS A TWO-YEAR TERM WITH NO LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF TERMS THEY MAY SERVE. THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE AT LARGE SEATS AVAILABLE FOR APPOINTMENTS. THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK OPENED APPLICATIONS ON MARCH 2ND, 2025, WHICH IS THE 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION OF THE CURRENT TERM. THE COMMUNICATION AND ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMENT RELEASED THREE WEB AND SOCIAL MEDIA POSTINGS. THE FIRST ONE ON 
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SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2025, AND THE SECOND ONE ON OCTOBER 28TH, 2025. 
          AND THE FINAL POSTING ON MARCH 4TH OF THIS YEAR. BY CLOSING DATE OF MARCH 18TH, 2026, WE HAD RECEIVED A TOTAL OF EIGHT APPLICATIONS. 
          THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE VETTED ALL EIGHT APPLICATIONS AND FOUR APPLICATIONS WERE DEEMED ELIGIBLE. TODAY WILL BE INTERVIEWING THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL. CITY COUNCIL WILL VOTE ON THE FULL BOARD APPOINTEES -- APPOINTMENTS DURING AN A SESSION. 
          AFTER THE VOTE, THE CITY CLERK WILL NOTIFY THE APPOINTED INDIVIDUALS AND ASK THEM TO COMPLETE THE PROPER FORMS, ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE AND INVITE THEM TO COMPLETE THE MUNICIPAL LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE TRAINING. 
          ONCE THESE STEPS ARE COMPLETED, THEY CAN BE SEATED ON THE BOARD. 
          ON THIS SLIDE IS THE LIST OF INDIVIDUALS SCHEDULED FOR INTERVIEWS TODAY. 
          TWO MEMBERS ARE SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT. THIS PROCESS TODAY WILL BEGIN WITH EACH APPLICANT PROVIDING A TWO-MINUTE OPENING STATEMENT FOR AN APPLICANT -- FOR APPLICANT WHOSE ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND A WRITTEN STATEMENT IS IN YOUR PACKET. MR. HUSSEIN IS THE ONLY ONE AVAILABLE, AND HIS WRITTEN STATEMENT IS IN YOUR REVIEW. 
          IF YOU WOULD LIKE, THE CITY CLERK CAN READ THE STATEMENT AND WE ARE PREPARED TO DO SO. ALL CANDIDATES WILL BE SEQUESTERED DURING THE INTERVIEWS AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER'S ANSWERS OR QUESTIONS. THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE WILL INTERVIEW ALL THE APPLICANTS, THEN MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DELIBERATE. 
          NO FORMAL ACTION MAY BE TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          AFTERWARD, THE COMMITTEE WILL RECONVENE AND A COMMITTEE MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO BE FORWARDED TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR APPOINTMENT. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, WE HAVE FOUR APPLICANTS FOR THE THREE SEATS AVAILABLE. 
          EACH APPLICANT WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO PROVIDE AN OPENING STATEMENT. 
          MR. FAASO HUSSEIN, WE WILL JUST READ HIS STATEMENT, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE IT READ. WE WILL BEGIN WITH OPENING STATEMENTS UNLESS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE BEGIN THE PROCESS? NO. AND WE WILL START WITH MR. ROBERT BANKE. 
          YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR OPENING STATEMENT. >> 
          >> NEW. GOOD AFTERNOON, GUYS, THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE. ROBERT BENKE, SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT. 
          I'VE BEEN SERVING ON THE BOARD FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW. 
          LOCAL SAN ANTONIO GUY, ROBERT E. LEE HIGH SCHOOL, UTSA GRADUATE, I AM ONE OF THE AT-LARGE SEATS BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROPER. I'VE BEEN A LICENSED REALTOR FOR OVER 10 YEARS WITH THE HISTORIC HOME SPECIALTY, I'M ALSO A LICENSED GENERAL CONTRACT AND HOME BUILDER HERE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR ALMOST A DECADE AS WELL. I ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE WHEN ON THE BOARD, I DON'T MISS MEETINGS AND I TRY AND MOVE PROMOTIONS AND BE PROACTIVE WHILE I'M THERE ASKING OUR CITIZENS QUESTIONS AND MAKING SURE WE GET THE ANSWERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO PRETTY SHORT AND BRIEF TODAY. I DON'T THINK I NEED ALL TWO MINUTES. 
          THAT'S KIND OF MY SPEIL, SO THANKS, GUYS. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. 
          SIR. I'LL JUST REMIND MY QUESTIONS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO ASK, THAT WE'LL BE ASKING EVERY APPLICANT THE SAME QUESTION, SO AT THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE A QUESTION YOU'D LIKE TO ASK. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO? 
          >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, ROBERT, FOR YOUR INTEREST IN CONTINUING TO SUPPORT ON THE BUILDING AROUND STANDARDS BOARD. 
          THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE STATES THAT DEMOLITION SHOULD BE A REMEDY OF LAST RESORT. CAN YOU SHARE YOUR INTERPRETATION OF WHAT 
          THAT STATEMENT MEANS. >> YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. 
          IN MY EXPERIENCE HAVING SAT ON THE BOARD, WE DO TRY AND WORK WITH EVERYBODY THAT COMES IN FRONT OF US. THEY HAVE BIFF GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY  TO EXPLAIN THEIR CASE. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A DIFFERENT SITUATION FOR EVERY HOME THAT WE SEE, AND WE DO TRY -- I PERSONALLY MAKE SURE TO TREAT THAT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. 
          EVERYBODY'S GOT DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON IN THEIR LIVES, IF WE DON'T HAVE TO TEAR DOWN THE HOUSE, WE'RE GOING TO TRY NOT TO. 
          BUT, YEAH, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR THE PEOPLE OUT, SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. THEY DO HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ASK THEM FOR WHEN THEY COME AND PRESENT THEIR CASE TO US IN THOSE MEETINGS, AND IF THEY ARE PRESENT, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T COME, I'VE LEARNED OVER SITTING ON THAT BOARD FOR TWO YEARS, IF THEY ARE PRESENT, WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU, WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND WORK WITH YOU AND TRY TO HELP YOU. WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO GIVE THEM ADVICE, BUT WE CAN LISTEN AND THE CODE OFFICERS CAN HELP POINT THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IF THEY'RE GIVEN MORE TIME AND THEIR 
          HOUSE IS NOT REMOVED, SO... >> CASTILLO: GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, ROBERT. I APPRECIATE THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY. 
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          >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN KAUR? >> KAUR: CAN YOU PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF A SITUATION WHERE YOU WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH DEMOLITION AND WHY. 
          >> SURE. ABSOLUTELY. IF THE HOUSE IS IN DISARRAY, THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BEEN OUT THERE MULTIPLE TIMES, DANGEROUS PREMISE SERVICES ARE OUT THERE AS WELL AND THE OWNERS DON'T SHOW UP, DON'T CALL, DON'T WRITE, THAT'S USUALLY A PRETTY EASY ONE FOR ME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEMOLITION OF THE HOME, IF IT'S BECOME A NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORS. A LOT OF THE TI TIMES SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS WILL COME AND THERE'S NO OWNER FOUND OR OF RECORD OR IT'S LOST IN PROBATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I MEAN, IT'S HURTING THE COMMUNITY AT THAT POINT, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING 
          FORWARD WITH DEMOLITION. SO... >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> THANKS, GUYS. >> MUNGIA: I APPRECIATE IT. 
          UP NEXT WILL BE MR. DAVID VALTIERRA. >> SET IT TO THE RIGHT 
          HEIGHT FOR THE SHORTIES. >> MUNGIA: NO WORRIES. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR COMING TODAY. YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT 
          FOLLOWED BY TWO QUESTIONS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE CHAIR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS DAVID VALTIERRA, I'M A LICENSED ARCHITECT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          I'M SIEVED AS A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR TWO YEARS. 
          I'VE SERVED ON SEVERAL BOARDS OVER THE YEARS, INCLUDING ONE FOR THE CITY OF EL PASO, THE TRANSPORTATION AND INDUSTRIAL ARCHEOLOGY BOARD WHICH IS KIND OF A MOUTHFUL, BUT I LOVE SHOWING THIS PICTURE BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE FRUITS OF THE LABOR ON THAT BOARD. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO BRING THE STREETCARS BACK TO LIFE IN THE CITY OF EL PASO. 
          I ALSO SERVED ON THE BOARD FOR VIA BACK IN 2005 HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND I SERVED ON THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, WHICH IS A SIMILAR BOARD, FOR THE CITY OF HOUSTON. AGAIN, I'M VERY COMMUNITY-MINDED INDIVIDUAL, I'VE ALSO BEEN A VOLUNTEER WITH THE RED CROSS AND A VOLUNTEER TON THE SAFETY ASSESSMENT PROGRAM WHICH IS A NATIONWIDE PROGRAM THAT RESPONDS TO EMERGENCY RELIEF AND DISASTERS AND ONLY ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS AND BUILDING OFFICIALS ARE ALLOWED TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE. 
          PROGRAM, AND WHENEVER THERE'S A DISASTER, LIKE THE TORNADO THAT STRUCK ROUND ROCK, WE WERE THERE AUGMENTING THE BUILDING OFFICIALS ASSESSING BUILDINGS ON DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE OCCUPIABLE OR NOT. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO? 
          >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, DAVID FOR YOUR INTEREST IN SERVING ON THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD. 
          THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES STATES THAT THE DEMOLITION SHOULD BE A REMEDY OF LAST RESORT. CAN YOU SHARE YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THAT 
          STATEMENT? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES -- AND, AGAIN, THIS IS FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN SERVING ON THE BUILDINGS STANDARDS BOARD FOR THE CITY OF HOUSTON. YOU KNOW, AT TIMES THERE ARE HEARTBREAKING CONDITIONS WHERE SOMEBODY'S PASSED AWAY OR SOMEBODY'S TAKEN OVER A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THEY DIDN'T ORIGINALLY OWN OR OTHER DILEMMAS THAT RESULT IN THAT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY IS OF THE UTMOST PORNSES, SO WHEN IMPORTANT, SO WHEN YOU HAVE A DILAPIDATED BUILDING OR THERE'S SOME VAGRANTS OR ISSUES RESULTING FROM THAT BUILDING BEING DILAPIDATED OR NOT BEING CARED FOR, THEN THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO 
          HAPPEN SOMETIMES, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, 
          DAVID. >> MUNGIA: COUNCILWOMAN KAUR? 
          >> KAUR: CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OR A SITUATION WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO 
          DEMOLISH A HOME. >> THERE'S BEEN SOME CONDITIONS WHERE A HOME'S BEING USED BY VAI GRANTS OR THERE'S DRUGS OR SOME KIND OF ILLEGAL, ELICIT ACTIVITY HAPPENING IN THAT FACILITY OR THAT STRUCTURE, OR THE STRUCTURE'S BEYOND REPAIR WHERE THERE ARE STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS TO IT WHERE IT MAY CAUSE -- EVEN IF IT'S OCCUPIED BY INDIVIDUALS, SOME SORT OF INJURY OR FAILURE, STRUCTURAL FAILURE, AND THAT'S -- THOSE ARE PRIMARY EXAMPLES. SAFETY RISK IS THE ELEMENT. 
          >> MUNGIA: AWESOME. THANK YOU, SIR. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME 
          TODAY. >> THANK YOU. >> MUNGIA: UH-HUH. 
          UP NEXT WE'LL HAVE MRS. ANN HOFFMAN WINER. GOOD AFTERNOON. 
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THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. YOU'LL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES FOR YOUR INTRODUCTION, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TWO QUESTIONS 
          A A FOLLOW-UP. THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS ANN WINER, I LIVE ON WEST ASHBY PLACE IN DISTRICT ONE. I HAVE BEEN ON THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD NOW SINCE, I THINK, 2001. 
          I'VE KIND OF LOST TRACK. I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD OF NATIONAL COUNCIL OF JEWISH WOMEN AS PROGRAMMING VICE PRESIDENT. 
          I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH HAS TAUGHT ME A LOT ABOUT ZONING, AND I'M AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS. I MOVED HERE FROM VIRGINIA, RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, BUT LIVED IN AKRON, OHIO, FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          AND IN ALL THOSE PLACES, I PREFERRED LIVING IN OLDER HOMES, BUT I NEVER REALLY SAW HOW DILAPIDATED A HOME COULD BE AND STILL BE LIVED IN. BY PROFESSION, I'M A CERTIFIED REGISTERED NURSE ANESTHETIST, I AM RETIRED. I CAM ON THE BOARD THINKING  THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AND THINK ABOUT HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THESE PEOPLE AND THEIR MEDICAL NEEDS, AND THEN SOON REALIZED THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT THE BOARD DOES. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ENOUGH FOR TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO STAY ON THE BOARD, BECAUSE IN THE DI TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON IT, I HAVE LEARNED A LOT, FROM THE ARCHITECTS AND THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE ON THE BOARD, AND FROM THE DPS AGENTS AND I REALLY CARE ABOUT SAN ANTONIO, I MOVED HERE, IT WILL BE SEVEN YEARS IN JULY. I HAD BEEN COMING HERE BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER IS HERE AND I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN HERE, BUT I HAVE GROWN TO REALLY LOVE THE CITY AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT FLOURISH. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO? 
          >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, ANN, FOR YOUR INTEREST IN CONTINUING TO SERVE ON THE BOARD. THE CODE STATES THAT DEMOLITION SHOULD BE A REMEDY OF LAST RESORT. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOUR 
          INTERPRETATION OF THAT STATEMENT IS. >> WE SEE HOUSES THAT THE ROOFS ARE GONE, THE PIER AND BEAM IS FALLING DOWN, THE WALLBOARD IS GONE, THERE IS NO PLUMBING, THERE IS NO WATER COMING IN, AND TO REBUILD THESE HOUSES WOULD COST MORE THAN TEARING IT DOWN AND BUILDING A NEW ONE. 
          A LOT OF THE HOUSES THAT WE DECIDE TO DEMOLISH, PEOPLE COME TO US AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, THEY HAVE $60,000, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT IS REALLY ONLY GOING TO COVER REALLY THE ROOF AND THE PIER AND BEAM. 
          IT WILL NOT TAKE CARE OF ANYTHING ELSE. I KNOW THAT THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD IS BLAMED MAYBE FOR DEMOLISHING HOUSES THAT DON'T NEED TO BE DEMOLISHED, BUT I ASK THOSE WHO SAY THAT TO COME AND SIT IN ON ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND SEE THE HOUSES THAT WE CHOOSE TO DEMOLISH, BESIDES ALL THE JUNK THAT IS IN THEM FROM SQUATTERS, THEY ARE JUST UNINHABITABLE, ROACHES, 
          RATS AND DRUG PARAPHERNALIA ALL OVER. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN KAUR? >> KAUR: CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A HOUSE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DEMOLISH. I KNOW YOU KIND OF SPOKE 
          TO THAT ALREADY, BUT... >> ON THE OUTSIDE, AGAIN, THE ROOF, THE WALLS ARE LEANING, THE PIER AND BEAMS HAVE FALLEN DOWN, YOU WALK IN AND THE FLOORS ARE ALL STRONG FBI. SPONGY. 
          WE GET THIS FROM THE DPS AGENTS, WHO BRING US MULTIPLE PICTURES, WE SEE MULTIPLE PICTURES, THE INSIDE AND THE OUTSIDE, EVEN DOWN TO THE LITTLE BITTY CORNERS. THE WALLS -- THE JOISTS ARE BOWED, THE WALLBOARD IS GONE, AND, AGAIN, THEY ARE INFESTD WITH RODENTS AND ROACHES AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN REALLY GET RID OF A LOT OF THAT, IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN CARE OF IT BEFORE, IS TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE AND REBUILD IT. 
          I THINK PEOPLE FORGET THAT THE LAND STILL BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAD THE HOUSE ON IT, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY -- I HAVE FOUND OUT, LIVING IN 
          ALTA VISTA, IS WORTH MORE THAN MY HOUSE. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS -- BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, I WILL JUST NOTE THAT AFTER TALKING TO MY COLLEAGUES AND DUE TO THE PUBLIC 
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INTEREST, AFTER WE CONVENE FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND MAKE A DECISION ON THIS ITEM, WE WILL SWAP ITEMS 3 AND 4, SO AFTER THIS ITEM, WE WILL DO THE BRIEFING ON OPPORTUNITY HOME, SINCE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS HERE IN ATTENDANCE. SO WITH THAT, THE TIME IS NOW 2:46 P.M. ON MARCH 30TH, 2026. THE COMMITTEE WILL NOW MEET IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 551.071 AND CHAPTER 551.074, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS THE BUILD 
          >> MUNGIA: ALL RIGHT. THE COMMITTEE WILL NOW RECONVENE IN OFFICIAL ACTION. NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE WHO APPLIED TO SERVE ON THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD. YOUR ABILITY AND EXPERTISE IS AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO MAINTAIN THE QUALITY AND SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR STEPPING FORWARD TO SERVE. CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THE RECOMMENDED BUILDING 
          STANDARDS BOARD APPOINTMENTS. >> CASTILLO: CHAIR I MOVE TO RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING TO THE COUNCIL, ROBERT BANG KEY, FAZO 
          HUSSEIN AND DAVID VALTIERRA. >> MUNGIA: CAN I GET A SECOND? OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REPRESENT THE ABOVE MENTIONED APPLICANTS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE 
          (AYE. >> MUNGIA: ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4, WHICH WILL BE A BRIEFING ON THE OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO STRATEGIC 
          PLAN FRAMEWORK. . >> GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS AYANA LONGORIA, I'M THE CHIEF STRATEGY DATA AND INNOVATION OFFICER WITH OPPORTUNITY HOME SAN ANTONIO. 
          I'D LIKE TO BRO DUES MY COLLEAGUES, LORE RAIN ROBLES, CHIEF REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPMENT OFFICER, JOSE, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AND MICHAEL REYES, PRESIDENT AND CEO. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US PRESENT TODAY. THIS PRESENTATION IS AT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR JONES, AND IN THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION AS A SHIP PARTNER, WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST PROVIDERS OF 0 TO 30% AFFORDABLE MEDIAN INCOME HOUSING AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY AND IN SUPPORT OF SHIP GOALS. SO I WANT TO JUMP STRAIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, AND SHARE WITH YOU THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH IN STARTING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS AND THE PHASES THAT WE WENT THROUGH. SO WE DID START WITH THE DISCOVERY PHASE. THIS PLAN STARTED IN JULY OF 2025. 
          IN IT WE CONDUCTED LISTENING SESSIONS, SURVEY, SWOT ANALYSIS AND WE WENT INTO PRIORITY DEVELOPMENT DECIDING WHAT OUR PRITIES WERE GOING TO BE -- AND THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES WOULD LOOK LIKE, THEN WE TOOK TIME TO COME UP WITH SOME OBJECTIVES, SOME ACTION STEPS, HOW WE WERE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS, WHAT WAS GOING TO MAKE SENSE, AND THEN WE HAD TO TAKE A STEP BACK, RIGHT? WE THREW EVERYTHING WE COULD AT THE WALL AND THEN WE HAD TO DECIDE WHAT WAS GOING TO HAVE THE MOST IMPACT, WHAT RESOURCES DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE, WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS WE'RE FACING, AND THEN SOME THINGS WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH TODAY OR IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, AND SOME THINGS MIGHT BE LONGER TERM, MIGHT BE BEYOND THE 10 YEARS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. 
          AND SO THEN THE LAST STEP OF THIS IS TO FINALIZE OUR PLAN. 
          SO AS I MENTIONED IN THE LISTENING GROUPS, WE HAD, AGAIN, FOCUS GROUPS THAT WE HELD WITH RESIDENTS, STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS PARTNERS AND OUR EMPLOYEES. AGAIN, MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WERE HAD THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, SO THROUGH EACH PHASE WE WOULD CONVENE BACK WITH OUR RESIDENTS, OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          IT WASN'T JUST ONE MEETING OR ONE CONVERSATION. 
          AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, WE WENT THROUGH THE VISIONING, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE GOALS THAT WERE DEVELOPED, AND THEN, AGAIN, FINALIZING AND IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN. WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHAT WE HEARD. 
          IT'S HOUSING WE HEARD, ESPECIALLY FROM OUR RESIDENTS, THAT THEY WERE PROUD TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO, BE PART OF OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          WE DID NOTE THAT, OF COURSE, THE AGING PUBLIC HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMMUNITIES NEEDED UPGRADES AND REHABILITATION. 
          THE RESPECTS WERE ASKING FOR NEWER AMENITIES, AND SO TO ADVOCATE FOR HOUSING. THE LAST ONE HERE WAS THAT THEY WANTED US TO MAXIMIZE PARTNERSHIPS TO ACHIEVE HOUSING GOALS, AND THIS CAME ACROSS THE BOARD. AND, OF COURSE, INCREASE CONSTRUCTION, BUILD NEW, BUILD MORE, BUILD ALL OVER SAN ANTONIO, BE IN MORE NEIGHBORHOODS, BE IN 
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MORE AREAS. WITH RESIDENT SERVICES AND PARTNERSHIPS, WHAT WE HEARD WAS THAT WE'RE GREAT AT PROVIDING SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, BECAUSE WE DO PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT TO OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL AS WORKING WITH OUR COMMITTEE PARTNERS, HOWEVER WE ARE MISSING SERVICES, NOTED MENTAL HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS, AND THIS IS NOT SURPRISING AS WE KNOW THIS IS A CRITICAL NEED ACROSS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. WE ALSO HEARD THAT RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY WERE NOT AWARE OF PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, AND THIS WORKED BOTH WAYS; THAT RESIDENTS WERE NOT OFTEN AWARE OF ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT OPPORTUNITY HOME PROVIDES, BUT THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF WHAT OTHER SERVICES WERE AVAILABLE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. 
          AND LIKEWISE, OUR PARTNERS WERE NOT AVAILABLE OF THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE AND HOW TO CONNECT WITH US. AND SO OUT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, CAME THE IDEA THAT PARTNERS WANTED MORE IDEAS AND EDUCATION ABOUT OPPORTUNITY HOME, NOT JUST ABOUT OUR SERVICES BUT ABOUT HOUSING IN GENERAL AND HOW THE HOUSING PROGRAMS WORK. WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND STAFF, AND THE BIG TAKEAWAY AROUND THIS IS WE REALLY NEED TO LEAN IN ON TECHNOLOGY AND USE THAT TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO HELP BE A RESOURCE FOR COMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION. SO AS WE TOOK ALL OF THIS UNDER -- UNDER THE -- UNDER THAT LISTENING GUISE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THOSE GOALS WOULD BE AND WE CAME UP WITH THREE KEY GOALS:  HOUSING WHICH IS PRESERVATION AND EXPANSION. OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH IS RESIDENT SERVICES, PARTNERSHIPS AND ADVOCACY, AND THEN INNOVATION. AND THIS IS STAFF DEVELOPMENT TECHNOLOGY AND OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY. AND AS WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE GOALS AND HOW WE WOULD MOVE THEM FORWARD, WE HAD TO TAKE A LOT OF THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE PIECES WHERE WE'RE WORKING TODAY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. 
          SO WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE HORIZON AND WHAT THE FUTURE COULD LOOK LIKE, AND WE HAD TO DO BEST-CASE SCENARIO, WORST-CASE SCENARIO, EXPECTED SCENARIOS, AND THIS REALLY HAD TO DO WITH THE FEDERAL BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS, ONGOING REGULATORY CHANGES, OUR PARTNERS AND OUR COMMUNITIES' INTEREST IN OUR WORK, AND THEN OUR RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITIES' NEEDS. SO AS I MENTIONED, HOUSING BE THE CORE OF WHAT WE DO, WE CAME UP WITH THE GOAL TO PROVIDE QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY DEVELOPING, ACQUIRING, FINANCING AND PRESERVING AT LEAST 14,005 AFFORDABLE UNITS ACROSS A DIVERSE PORTFOLIO OF HOUSING OPTIONS, ENSURING LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY AND STABILITY FOR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE SAN ANTONIO AREA. 
          AND SO TO BREAK DOWN THIS 14,500 NUMBER, WHAT WE LOOK AT DOING IS LEADING A COMPREHENSIVE PRESERVATION EFFORT WITHIN THE PUBLIC HOUSING PORTFOLIO, MODERNIZING 6,000 HOMES TO ELEVATE THE LIVING STANDARDS AND PRESERVING LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY. WE WANT TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO PRODUCE 5,500 NEW UNITS, INCLUDING ALONG TRANSIT-ORIENTED CORRIDORS TO ENSURE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE MULTIMODAL, ACQUIRING 500 EXISTING HOUSING UNITS, AND THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US, AS WE HAVE FOUND THAT WHEN WE LOOK TO DEVELOP NEW, WE'RE LOOKING -- THAT BECOMES VERY COST PROHIBITIVE, AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE CAN ACQUIRE EXISTING CLASS A COMMUNITIES IN AREAS OF OPPORTUNITIES, AREAS THAT WE PROBABLY COULDN'T ACTUALLY BUILD IN, BUT WE CAN ACQUIRE, AND SO THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHERE THERE MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE BE IN. ANY. AND WE WANT TO REVITALIZE 2500 HOMES WITHIN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITIES, AND THESE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT OPPORTUNITY HOME OWNS AND MANAGES, AND WE WANT TO KEEP THOSE AFFORDABLE -- WITHIN THE HOUSING GOAL IS TO WORK WITH OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND NONPROFIT ENTITIES TO REDUCE BARRIERS TO HOUSING, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. WE WANT TO COORDINATE WITH THE CITY TO SUPPORT THE INITIATIVES AROUND PERMANENT AND TRANSITIONAL SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. WE WANT TO TRANSFORM OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PORTFOLIO TO ENSURE THE LONG-TERM RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR HOUSING ASSETS, AND THEN INCREASE COLLABORATION WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO ENHANCE INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL SAFETY INITIATIVES AND RESOURCES. THE NEXT GOAL IS AROUND OPPORTUNITIES, AND I WON'T READ ALL OF IT, BUT THIS GOAL IS FOCUSED ON PARTNERSHIPS, ENSURING THAT WE RECOGNIZE OUR PLACE AS ONE OF THE VITAL SYSTEMS IN SYSTEMS INTEGRATION. HOUSING IS A PLATFORM FOR ALL THE OTHER CRITICAL NEEDS THAT A FAMILY HAS, EDUCATION, WORKFORCE, TRANSPORTATION TO NAME A FEW. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BRINGING IN THE SERVICES AND SUPPORTS OUR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES NEED, AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO BRING THOSE SYSTEMS TOGETHER AND ELEVATE EVERYONE TOGETHER. UNDER INNOVATION, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE UTILIZING TECHNOLOGY AND THAT WE'RE BRINGING OUR WORKFORCE UP TO CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO BRIDGE THOSE MODERN TECHNOLOGY USES AND BE AS EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO WHY ARE WE DOING THIS NOW? WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. OUR ORGANIZATION IS FACING DEFERRED REPAIRS 
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AND REPLACEMENT, WHAT WE COMMONLY CALL DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FOR OUR CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THIS NEED CONTINUES TO GROW. 
          WE NOW HAVE AN IN EXCESS OF 550 MILLION ACROSS OUR PUBLIC HOUSING PORTFOLIO. AT THE CURRENT AT THE HUNT INDICATE THAT HUD FUNDS US FOR OUR CAPITAL FUND PROGRAM, IT WOULD TAKE US 154 YEARS TO ADDRESS THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. THE FUNDING WE GET TODAY WOULD TAKE 154 YEARS TO GET WHAT WE HAVE TODAY AND THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT HAPPENS TOMORROW AS THE SYSTEMS CONTINUE TO AGE AND WEAR AND TEAR HAPPENS. IT IS ALSO LOSING APPROXIMATELY 1.4 MILLION A MONTH IN THE HOUSING PORTFOLIO AND THIS IS DUE TO FEDERAL FUNDING AND THE RISING OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS. 
          SO SAN ANTONIO IS ONE OF THE LARGEST LAST U.S. CITIES IN TEXAS THAT HAS NOT REPOSITIONED ITS PUBLIC HOUSING PORTFOLIO. THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED IN 
          AUSTIN, DALLAS, ARLINGTON,. >> ELLIS: HE WILL -- EL PASO AND HOUSTON. WE ARE THE LAST ONES WHO HAVE NOT STARTED THIS PROCESS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR WHAT OUR DEFERRED REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS LOOK LIKE. SO THIS IS BROKEN DOWN BY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT. AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR DISTRICT 1 AND DISTRICT 5 HAVE THE LARGEST CAPITAL NEEDS. AND THIS IS JUST PUBLIC HOUSING AND REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY 5,800 UNITS. TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD AT 30 YEARS WHERE WE'LL BE WITH OUR PUBLIC HOUSING SECTION 9 PROJECTED DEFICIT, AS YOU CAN SEE, YEAR 2025 WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, OUR A REVENUE IS 43 MILLION. OUR EXPENSES ARE 60 MILLION. 
          SO WE'RE RUNNING AN ANNUAL DEFICIT OF ABOUT $16 MILLION. 
          WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO USE OUR MOVING TO WORK DOLLARS IN FLEXIBILITY TO COVER THAT DEFICIT, HOWEVER, WE WERE JUST NOTIFIED THAT UNDER THIS LAST APPROPRIATIONS ACT THAT WAS JUST PASSED, THEY'RE GOING TO OFFSET OUR FUNDING AND PLACE IT ON US TO USE THE RESERVES FOR OUR GENERAL OPERATING PURPOSES. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, BASED ON THIS CHART, WITH AN EXPECTED GROWTH RATE OF TWO PERCENT AND AN EXPENSE INFLATION RATE OF THREE PERCENT, WITHIN 10 YEARS WE WILL BE AT A NEGATIVE 50% OF OUR OPERATING MARGIN. IN 2055 WE'LL BE AT 86%. 
          WE DID RUN THIS SAME SCENARIO WITH WHAT WOULD BE WORST CASE SCENARIO AND IN THAT SCENARIO WE HAVE REVENUE GROWING AT ONE PERCENT AND INFLATION GROWING AT FOUR PERCENT. IN THE THIS WORST CASE WE ARE AT THE 50% OPERATING MARGIN IN THREE YEARS, WHICH IS 2028. AND WE ARE AT 100% UNDERWATER, NEGATIVE, IN EIGHT YEARS. SO WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE HEARD AND WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED AROUND THE TYPES OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MOVE FROM SECTION 8 PUBLIC HOUSING SUBSIDY TO -- FROM A SECTION 9 PUBLIC HOUSING SUBSIDY TO A SECTION 8 RENTAL SUBSIDY. 
          THE FIRST CONCERN IS RENT WILL BE MORE THAN 30% OF SOMEONE'S ADJUSTED INCOME. 
          RENT WILL BE 30% OF THE ADJUSTED INCOME ONCE THE CONVERSION TO SECTION 8 HAPPENS. THE INITIAL INCOME ELIGIBILITY. 
          WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS THAT FAMILIES ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO QUALIFY. CURRENTLY THE PROGRAM SAYS YOU MUST EARN LESS THAN 80 PERCENT OF THE M AI AND BACKGROUND CRITERIA IS SET BY OPPORTUNITY HOME WITHIN THE SECTION EIGHT RENTAL SUBSIDY CONVERSION IT WILL STILL REMAIN LESS THAN 80% AMI AND A BACKGROUND CRITERIA IS STILL SET BY OPPORTUNITY HOME. 
          THERE'S A CONCERN AROUND TENANT PROTECTIONS, PARTICULARLY AROUND RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND RIGHT TO RETURN. THOSE THINGS ENERGY PLACE AS WELL. THERE'S A CONCERN AROUND RESIDENT COUNCILS OR ASSOCIATIONS AND TENANT PARTICIPATION FUNDS. THOSE 10 UNDER SECTION EIGHT RENTAL SUBSIDY. NOTICES AND GRIEVANCE PROCESSES. 
          NOTICES WILL CONTINUE TO BE GIVEN AND THERE IS A GRIEVANCE PROCESS UNDER SECTION EIGHT. AND THE PUBLICLY OWNED, CONTROLLED AND LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY. IN THE CASE OF THE SECTION EIGHT RENTAL SUBSIDY, THESE WILL REMAIN OWNED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, WE ARE INTENDING TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT STAYS WITH THE LAND AND A HUD CONTRACT THAT RENEWS IN PERPETUITY. I DO WANT TO SHOW A SAMPLE OF WHAT A PUBLIC HOUSING CONVERSION COULD LIKE LIKE AND WE ARE LOOKING AT ELIZABETH MCGUIRE. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, WHAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS THE TENANT'S PORTION OF FUNDS. 
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SO THIS WOULD BE 30% OF THEIR ADJUSTED INCOME. IT'S JUST A SAMPLE. 
          IN THIS SCENARIO THE RESIDENT IS PAYING $278 TOWARDS THEIR RENT. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO EARNS ABOUT 11 TO $12,000 PER YEARMENT OF WHAT WE RECEIVE IN OPERATING FUND FROM HUD IS $276 AND WHAT WE RECEIVE IN CAPITAL OPERATING FUND IS $212. ONCE IT IS MOVED OVER, 9010, ONE OF THE METHODS IN WHICH WE ARE ABLE TO CONVERT THIS COMMUNITY, WE WOULD SEE THE RENTS MIRROR OVER TO WHAT WOULD BE A MARKET RATE RENT. AND WHAT HUD IS GOING TO BE PAYING US IN THE OPERATING SUBSIDY BECOMES $1,200, AS YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE TENANT IS GOING TO BE PAYING CONTINUES TO BE 30% OR AT $278. SO THERE'S NO CHANGE TO WHAT THE TENANT IS PAYING. IT IS THE OPERATING SUBSIDY THAT WE RECEIVE FROM HUD THAT CHANGES. SO GOING BACK OVER TO THE PLAN, WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE OBJECTIVES AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE ACTIONABLE AND WE CAN MEASURE THEM AND TRACK THEM. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES IN PLACE, INCLUDING TECHNOLOGY, TRAINING, FUNDING. 
          AND THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT WE HAVE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT AND EVALUATION PIECES IN PLACE. AGAIN, THAT'S ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT METRICS AND PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC MOVING DASHBOARD, SOMETHING THAT IS ACCESSIBLE MUCH AS THE CITY SHIP PLAN THAT WAS CREATE AND WE ARE MONITORING AN ANNUAL EVALUATION. 
          THERE WAS A QUESTION AROUND HOW THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE MTW PLAN. 
          SO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AGAIN IS A LONG 10-YEAR VISION FOR THE ORGANIZATION. 
          THE MTW PLAN IS AN ANALYSIS. SO THIS OUTLINES OUR PROPOSED ACTIVITIES AND VARIOUS OPERATING PLANS AND WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THIS EVERY YEAR TO HUD BY APRIL 15TH. 
          WE HAVE AS AN MTW ORGANIZATION MOVING TO WORK ORGANIZATION, WE'RE ALLOWED TO PROPOSE WAIVERS TO OUR REGULATORY -- TO OUR REGULAR --R REGULATORY WAIVERS AS LONG AS IT FITS ONE OF THREE CRITERIA:  IT PROVIDES COST EFFICIENCY OR EFFECTIVENESS, IT INCREASES HOUSING CHOICE OR IT PROMOTES SELF-SUFFICIENCY. 
          THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PLANS SUBMITTED UNDER THE MTW. IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE SUBMIT AS METROPOLITAN, WE ALSO SUBMIT THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND CONTINUED OCCUPANCY PLAN, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC HOUSING PLAN, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN, WHICH IS OUR SECTION 8, THE FAMILY SELF-SUFFICIENCY PLAN, AN ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN AND A CAPITAL PLAN. AND THESE ALL GO TOGETHER AS A PACKAGE. 
          SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU. >>>> MUNGIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. EARLIER I DID SEE ONE OF OUR OPPORTUNITY HOME BOARD MEMBERS, KAYLA. I'M FOR THE SURE IF HE'S STILL THERE. 
          I WANTED TO GIVE HER A SHOTOUT FOR BEING HERE TODAY. 
          AND ALSO, CLERK, WE DO HAVE A LETTER HERE FROM UNITE HERE LOCAL 23. 
          I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS IN THE RECORD AS WELL. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING HERE TODAY AND DOCUMENTING THIS AND SHARING YOUR IDEAS. AS WAS NOTED EARLIER, JUST TO LAY IT FLAT, PCDC IS NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THIS OR APPROVE OR DENY THIS. 
          NEITHER WILL CITY COUNCIL. HOWEVER, WE ARE PARTNERS, RIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING HERE. I THINK PART OF THAT PARTNERSHIP IS CONVEYING SOME CONCERNS THAT SOME OF US MIGHT HAVE AND HAVE A GOOD DIALOGUE WITH THAT. 
          WE'RE SHIP PARTNERS, WE HAVE YOU ALL IN THE HOUSING COMMISSION AS A PARTNER. 
          AS WAS NOTED IN THIS ARTICLE FROM EXPRESS NEWS JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, YOU ALL WERE THE LARGEST RECIPIENT OF OUR HOUSING BONDS FUNDS, RIGHT, THAT GOES A LONG WAY TO ABOUT 16.7 MILLION. SO IT'S VERY GOOD FOR YOU ALL TO BE HERE AND SHARE YOUR IDEAS WITH US AND WHAT'S GOING ON, ESPECIALLY NOT JUST HERE, BUT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL ALSO. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO WE WILL BEGIN DISCUSSION. 
          WE WILL START OFF WITH COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THIS WEEKEND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH LOCAL ELECTIVES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND SETTLE AND IT WAS A HOUSING CONVERSATION PRIMARILY ABOUT RAD AND THE WAYS IN WHICH CITIES LIKE BALTIMORE, ATLANTA, SO ON AND SO FORTH, HAVE SEEN THE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES IN TERMS OF RAD CONVERSION. WHILE THE INTENT IS TO SUBSIDIZE LIKE THE EXAMPLE THAT ALEJANDRA GAVE WITH THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM, IS TO HELP WITH THOSE DEFERRED COSTS. I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE NUMBER 10, RIGHT, 222 MILLION NEED. 
          DISTRICT 5 ACCOUNTS FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR CITY'S PUBLIC HOUSING STOCK AND THAT'S WHY I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED THE MOST FUNDING IN TERMS OF THE 2022 BOND, AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS PUT FORTH BY KAYLA TO OPEN UP OPPORTUNITY FOR OPPORTUNITY HOME TO QUALIFY FOR THAT FUNDING. FURTHERMORE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR FEDERAL DELEGATION, LIKE CONGRESSMAN GREG IS A CZAR AND TONY GONZÁLEZ TO 
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EARMARK OPPORTUNITY HOME FUNDING WITHIN OUR DISTRICT. I'M GRATEFUL WITH THE MAYOR WE EARMARKED ONE MILLION DOLLARS TO ASSIST THE HOMES WITH THEIR WINDOWS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PUBLIC HOUSING IN PARTICULAR IS OUR CITY'S MOST AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AS YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION, AS FOLKS MENTIONED IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO STABLE. PUBLIC HOUSING PROVIDES STABILITY TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S OVERALL ECOSYSTEM AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE HERE PRESENTING TO SHOW YOUR SHARED COMMITMENT WITH MOVING THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FORWARD. WITH THAT BEING SAID, A COUPLE OF CONSTITUENTS DID BRING AREAS OF CONCERN IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT CHANGES THAT YOU ALL ARE PROPOSING, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE REMOVED THE STILLLATION ON RECORDING BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WOULD VIOLATE TEXAS LAW THAT WE ARE ONE CONSENT PARTY STATE. SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT IS NO LONGER BEING CONSIDERED. 
          I DID HAVE A QUESTION, AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE SHARED WITH STAFF Y'ALL'S RESPONSE IN TERMS OF THE CORRIDOR OUTREACH. OUR TEAMS ARE WORKING ON A WAY TO PROHIBIT SOLICITATION IN OUR BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MANY RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, BUT WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM RESIDENTS AND TENANTS IS THAT THERE'S CONCERN WITH THE LANGUAGE AND IT MAY PROHIBIT AND DETER FOLKS FROM COMMUNITY ORGANIZING. SO CAN YOU SHARE, ONE, AGAIN, REITERATE, RATHER, YOUR INTENT WITH THAT PROHIBITION FROM PROHIBITING THE COMMUNITY FROM DOING DOOR TO DOOR OUTREACH WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF 
          PROPERTY MANAGEMENT? >> YES. SO AS NOTED -- SO THE REASONS SOME OF OUR LEASE REVISIONS CAME INTO PLACE WERE RAISED BY TENANTS. 
          AND IN THIS CASE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IT'S THE LEASE PROVISION SO IT'S FOR TENANT TO TENANT. AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS NOT PROHIBITING ANY KIND OF INFORMATION SHARING, ANY KIND OF ORGANIZING, WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT OUR RESIDENT COUNCILS AND COMMUNITIES ORGANIZING AND WORKING WITH MANAGEMENT. 
          WHAT WE WANT TO ENSURE AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS THAT WE DO HAVE THIRD-PARTY FOR-PROFIT ENTITIES. AND EVERYONE IS ALLOWED ON TO OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT WHAT WE ASK, AND THIS IS PART OF OUR CURRENT POLICY JUST EXTERNALLY FOR EVERYONE, IS THAT YOU GO TO THE COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT OFFICE, ALERT THEM THAT YOU'RE ON PROPERTY AND DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, ESPECIALLY IF WE KNOW IT'S A PREDATORY TYPE SITUATION, RIGHT, THEN WE DON'T ALLOW THEM TO BE ON PROPERTY. 
          WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THEY JUST GO DIRECTLY TO A TENANT AND USE THE TENANT TO GET THEM ON TO THE PROPERTY WHERE INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH MANAGEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED. SO DEFINITELY THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO PROHIBIT ANYONE, WE WOULD NOT LIMIT ACCESS TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE PROVIDERS, COMMUNITY ADVOCATES OR NON-PROFITS. 
          THEN AGAIN THE POLICIES TOWARDS THE CHANGE, WE CONTINUE TO WELCOME THEM IN COLLABORATION WITH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AS SIMPLY A WAY TO PROTECT TENANTS FROM FEELING HARASSED AND OTHER TENANT WHO ARE BRINGING IN PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE 
          CHECKING IN WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT OFFICE. >> CASTILLO: CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD NOT VIOLATE A TENANT'S RIGHT TO ORGANIZE AS IS WRITTEN? 
          >> LET MAY HE KICK IT OVER TO OUR OPERATING OFFICER. >> IN REALITY AS WE SAID THE INTENT WAS REALLY TO HELP MAINTAIN EVERYTHING FOR OUR FAMILIES AND KEEP THEM AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TENANTS COMPLAINING. 
          THE REALITY IS WE WANT TO WORK WITH ALL OF OUR FAMILIES AND ALL OF OUR INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD LIKE TO COORDINATE AND COLLABORATE WITH OUR TENANTS. ALL WE'RE ASKING IS SIMPLY TO COME TALK TO US SO WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. ONLY BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE OTHER RESIDENTS AND OTHER TENANTS WHO WILL COME BACK AND COMPLAIN TO US SAYING THEY'RE GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND COMING TO MY DOOR AND ASKING ME TO SIGN SOMETHING. THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, BUT ALSO DON'T WANT TO SAY NO. SO IF WE'RE AWARE OF IT WE CAN HELP GUIDE ANYONE COMING ON OR ANY OTHER TENANTS TRYING TO COORDINATE SOME 
          COLLABORATION AMONG RESIDENTS. >> CASTILLO: WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT ARE BEING ASKED TO BE SIGNED? ARE THEY PETITIONS? 
          >> IT'S PUSH PETITIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE UPSET WITH THE MANAGER OR PETITIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE UPSET WITH A MAINTENANCE -- VERY SPECIFIC MAINTENANCE ITEM. 
          AND THOSE ARE ITEMS ARE BEING ADDRESSED. WE HAVE PROCESSES IN PLACE TO HANDLE ALL OUR MAINTENANCE WORK ORDERS AND THEY GET HANDLED. 
          SO THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF WHY WE PUT IT SPECIFICALLY IN THE LEASE SO IF THERE IS A TENANT TRYING TO DO THIS WE CAN COME BACK AND TALK TO THEM AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO WORK WITH US OR YOU NEED TO REALLY BE MINDFUL OF THE PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT OF 
          YOUR NEIGHBORS. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          I THINK RIGHT THERE IS MY CONCERN WITH THE LEASE CHANGE, RIGHT? OUR TEAM IN PARTICULAR, WE RAN THIS LANGUAGE PAST THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OUR UNDERSTANDING IS AS WRITTEN OUR OWN OFFICE WOULD BE ENCOURAGED NOT TO DO DOOR 
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TO DOOR OUTREACH. AND I THINK THAT LANGUAGE AS WRITTEN, RIGHT, CAN SCARE TENANTS FROM CHECKING IN ON ONE ANOTHER AND/OR ORGANIZING, WHICH THEY'RE 
          ALLOWED TO BY LAW. >> THEY ARE. >> CASTILLO: SO I THINK, AGAIN, RIGHT, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE CONCERN THAT THAT PROVISION WITHIN THE LEASE PRESENTS, BUT I DID WANT TO ASK ANOTHER AREA OF CLARIFICATION THAT WAS MENTIONED IN TERMS OF HOW INCOME IS CALCULATED WITH SECTION 8 HOLDERS. 
          >> OKAY. >> CASTILLO: THE SECTION 8 HOUSEHOLD INCOME CALCULATION HAS A BROADER DEFINITION. FOR EXAMPLE, IT INCLUDES TENANTS WHO MAY HAVE A STUDENT LOAN AND IT CALCULATES THAT STUDENT LOAN TOTAL WITHIN THEIR INCOME. 
          WHEREAS PUBLIC HOUSING DOES NOT TAKE THAT STUDENT LOAN INTO ACCOUNT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? >> YOU'RE GOING TO GET ME SO FAR IN THE WEEDS THAT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. I WOULD HATE TO SAY YES OR NO AT THIS POINT, BUT THE OVERALL INTENT IS 30% OF A HOUSEHOLD'S INCOME IS WHAT REALLY IS GOING TO BE 
          APPLIED TOWARDS THEIR PORTION OF RENT. >> CASTILLO: IS THERE SOMEONE ON THE TEAM THAT CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION WITH CERTAINTY? 
          >> NOT HERE TODAY, UNLESS YOU RECALL THAT. >> CASTILLO: YES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THAT QUESTION. 
          BECAUSE AS PRESENTED, RIGHT, THAT THERE'S -- THE ARGUMENT THAT I HEARD OR THE STATEMENT RATHER IS THAT THEY'RE CALCULATED SIMILARLY SIMILARLY, HOWEVER BASED OFF OF HUD THEY'RE NOT CALCULATED SIMILAR. I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE 
          BEING PRESENTED THE CORRECT INFORMATION. >> OKAY. 
          WE CAN GET THAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. AS I STARTED THIS WEEKEND IN SEATTLE WITH AND ALSO OTHERS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, WHAT THEY'RE RUNNING INTO IS THEY HAVE CONVERTED THEIR PROPERTIES THROUGH RAD, HOWEVER THEY'RE FINDING THAT THOSE VOUCHERS AREN'T BEING USED TO BEING REINVESTED INTO THE PROPERTY. 
          HERE WE'RE BEING PRESENTED THAT THE PROPERTIES WOULD SEE INVESTMENT BASED OFF THE 
          CURRENT CONVERSION STRUCTURE, CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. 
          I WANT TO HELP KIND OF CLARIFY. SO NATIONWIDE WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS A LOT OF HOUSING AUTHORITIES HAVE CONVERTED THROUGH RAD, BUT THEY'VE CONTINUED TO USE PBVS, PROJECT-BASED VOUCHERS. THOSE VOUCHERS ARE A SUBSET OF THE PROGRAM. OUR PLAN IS TO CONVERT TO HOUSING ASSISTANCE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT A VOUCHER PROGRAM. SO WITHIN THAT SAME SHIFT WE WILL BE OPERATING UNDER THE MULTI-FAMILY OFFICE OF HUD AND THOSE GUIDELINES AND THOSE GUIDELINES WILL REQUIRE EACH PROPERTY WITH THE FUNDING THAT COMES IN TO CREATE A RESERVE FOR REPLACEMENT ACCOUNT, WHICH IS YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT FOR THE CONTINUED OPERATIONS ON CAPITAL NEEDS. SO ALL OF THAT MONEY WILL BE REINVESTED. SO OUR PLAN IS TO BE THE OWNER OF THE CONTRACT FOR THE SUBSIDIES, TO MAINTAIN THE OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND, AND TO CONTINUE TO MANAGE AND OWN THE BUILDINGS AS WE'RE DOING TODAY UNDER THE PUBLIC HOUSING MODEL. 
          SO A LOT OF WHAT I'VE SEEN NATIONWIDE ARE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND PRIVATE MANAGEMENT COMING IN AND HOUSING AUTHORITIES ARE SHIFTING THAT SUBSIDY FROM THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO OPERATE IN THAT MANNER. THAT IS NOT OUR PLAN, NOR IS 
          THAT OUR INTENT. >> CASTILLO: AND COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH OPPORTUNITY 
          HOME'S DEFINITION OF CONVERSION? >> IT'S SHIFTING. 
          IT'S ESSENTIALLY SHIFTING FROM THE PUBLIC HOUSING FUNDING MODEL, SHIFTING TO WHAT I JUST EXPLAINED ON THE SECTION 8 SIDE AS A SUBSET OF THE PROJECT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. SO THAT FUNDING MODEL UNDER A DIFFERENT HUD OFFICE. 
          >> CASTILLO: SO THAT WOULD BE THE CONVERSION OF PUBLIC HOUSING TO SECTION 8? 
          >> CORRECT. >> CASTILLO: THAT WOULD NOT BE THE PRESERVATION OF 
          PUBLIC HOUSING, CORRECT? >> WELL, IN THEORY -- SO SPECIFICALLY NO, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PRESERVATION AND PUBLIC HOUSING, WHAT WE REALLY RELY ON IS THE SUBSIDY THAT'S PROVIDED TO THE FAMILIES SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE AND CONTINUE LIVING IN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROPERTY. SPEAKING WITH SEVERAL RESIDENTS, MYSELF, OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE EXPLAINED THAT THEIR FEAR IS THAT IS GOING AWAY, THAT SUBSIDY. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT THE CASE. THE CASE IS THE TENANT SUBSIDIES WILL REMAIN IN PLACE SO THEY CAN STILL CONTINUE TO LIVE IN OUR PROPERTIES AND STILL BE PROVIDED WITH THE SUBSIDIES THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY GETTING. 
          THEY WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PAYING ANY MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME. 
          >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WANTED TO PIVOT BACK TO SOME OF THE LEASE CHANGES. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS 
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SUMMARY REPORT THAT YOU ALL HAVE PROVIDED. AND I SEE THAT SEVEN OUT OF 49 ARE IN FAVOR OF RAD AND 28 OUT OF 49 OPPOSE RAD. AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS, THEY STATE -- THEY STATE THAT THEY DON'T CALL MAINTENANCE BECAUSE ONE TIME THEY CALLED TO HAVE THEIR LIGHT BULB CHANGED, ONE OF THE HIGHEST LIGHT BULBS IN THE STAIRWAY AND THEY COULDN'T REACH IT, SO THEY PUT IN THE MAINTENANCE REQUEST AND IT WAS $30 TO CHANGE IT. SHE WENT ON TO STATE I COULD NOT AFFORD TO PAY THAT. I CANNOT CATCH UP WITH MY BILLS. 
          I'M ON DIALYSIS AND I HAVE CAN EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES. MY SUPPLIES NEED TO STAY AT A CERTAIN TEMPERATURE FOR IT TO BE USABLE. WITHIN THE CHANGES IT PROHIBITS TENANTS FROM MAKING ANY MINOR MAINTENANCE CHANGES WITHOUT SUBMITTING A FORMAL REQUEST. WOULD CHANGING A LIGHT BULB BE SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE 
          TO CONTINUE TO SUBMIT A FORMAL REQUEST? >> IF THAT IS WHAT IS NEEDED AND WE CAN HELP THEM, I WOULD SAY YES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP THOSE HOUSEHOLDS DEAL WITH. >> CASTILLO: WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED A VIOLATION IF THEY CHANGED THE LIGHT BULB WITHOUT SUBMITTING THE 
          FORMAL REQUEST? >> I WOULDN'T, NO, NOT TO THAT EXTENT. 
          THE BIG CONCERN WE'VE HAD, AND THE REASON WE TALKED ABOUT INCLUDING THIS, IS AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, THE AGE OF OUR PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY ON THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, ARE VERY FRAGILE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES THROUGHOUT. SO WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO WILL COME IN AND THEY WILL INSTALL SOMETHING WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'VE INSTALLED AND WILL IMPACT THE OVERALL ELECTRICITY AND ELECTRICAL PANEL IN THOSE UNITS. 
          AND WE DON'T FIND OUT UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS. SO TO PREVENT THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON SO WE CAN MANAGE IT. 
          A LIGHT BULB I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THAT. IN TERMS OF THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT Y'ALL ARE CURRENTLY HAVING CONVERSATIONS OR I BELIEVE AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT WOULD BE THE FIRST THREE PROJECTS TO BE CONVERTED THROUGH RAD, HAVE YOU ALL ENGAGED THE CURRENT PARTIES LIKE THE TENANTS, HOW MANY MEETINGS YOU HAVE HAD, WHAT DAYS WERE THOSE MEETINGS THAT Y'ALL ENGAGED TENANTS? 
          >> I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M LORRAINE ROBLES AND I AM THE CHIEF REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. 
          TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, NO, WE HAVE NOT, WE'VE NOT BEGUN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FIRST GET APPROVAL TO BEGIN. AND THEN WE CAN START THOSE MEETINGS. 
          HUD REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE A TOTAL OF FIVE MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, HOWEVER WE KNOW IN OUR EXPERIENCE THAT IT TAKES MORE THAN THAT AND WE ARE 
          COMMITTED TO DOING THAT. >> CASTILLO: WITH THE THREE PROPERTIES IDENTIFIED, HOW WERE THOSE PROPERTIES SELECTED OUT OF THE PUBLIC HOUSING PLOY? WHAT WERE SOME OF THE -- HOUSING PORTFOLIO. WHAT WERE SOME OF THE THINGS 
          YOU DID? >> 59 THAT ARE PURE PUBLIC HOUSING. 
          SO WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS WE WORKED WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO LOOK FOR NOT ONLY THOSE WITH THE GREATEST NEED, BUT ALSO BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT EVER DONE THIS BEFORE. 
          WE WANTED TO START SMALL SO WE COULD FEEL OUR WAY THROUGH, WORK THROUGH THE SYSTEM. WORK OUT ANY KINKS TO BE SURE THAT BY THE TIME WE GET TO OUR LEGACY PROJECTS TOWARDS THE END OF THE 10 YEARS, WE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS AND WE CAN DO IT WELL. SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE ONES THAT ARE IN DIRE NEED OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT, WHETHER IT'S MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, AND NOT JUST WINDOWS OR A ROOF, BUT SOMETHING HEAVY THAT NEEDED TO BE REPLACEMENT. 
          WE ALSO LOOKED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT OF THOSE WHO HAD HAD SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE OF FUNDING THAT MAYBE WE GOT FROM HUD OR FROM GRANTS OR FROM THE BOND MONEY AND THAT COULD JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT OF A FACELIFT WHERE WE COULD GO IN AND MODERNIZE, YOU KNOW, FLOORING AND PAINT AND FIXTURES, CABINETS, BATHROOM, IN ORDER FOR US TO BRING IT UP TO MORE MODERN STANDARDS AND WOULD JUST TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO DO. BUT KNOWING THAT, THE BOOST IN RENT, LIKE THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU SAW WITH MARIE MCGUIRE, WOULD GO A LONG WAY FOR THAT PROPERTY. SO THAT OUR GOAL IS TO NOT ONLY MAKE EACH PROPERTY SELF-SUSTAINING FINANCIALLY, BUT ALSO FOR THE AGENCY, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT. RIGHT NOW WE ARE BEING ASKED ALL THE TIME WHY CAN'T YOU FIX IT, WHY DON'T YOU FIX IT? YOU GET MONEY THERE HUD. HUD DOES NOT PROVIDE US ENOUGH MONEY. 
          A AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, IT'S NOT WINDOWS. 
          IT'S NOT SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, PAVING OR ROOFING. WE'RE TALKING AGAIN MEP, 
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          MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING. >> CASTILLO: I GUESS IF WE COULD GET BACK TO MY QUESTION, I HEARD TWO THINGS SO CAN YOU CLARIFY? 
          >> WE DID -- WHAT? THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT WERE SELECTED, WERE THEY BASED OFF OF THE HIGHEST NEED? BUT I ALSO HEARD THAT THOSE WERE NEED THAT LIKE A FACELIFT? CAN YOU CLARIFY WITH THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT WERE ADVOCATED WERE THOSE PROPERTIES WITH THE HIGHEST NEED OUT OF OPPORTUNITY HOME'S PUBLIC HOUSING PORTFOLIO? 
          >> WE DID BOTH. WE DID THOSE WHO DIDN'T NEED AS MUCH, BUT COULD EASILY CONVERT AND THEN WE DID -- WE CHOSE SOMETHING THAT WAS SMALL, BUT NEEDED SOME MAJOR 
          REPAIRS. >> CASTILLO: AND OUT OF THREE PROPERTIES, CAN YOU SHARE LIKE FOR EXAMPLE THE DISTRICT 7 PROPERTY WAS AT THE HIGHEST NEED, THE LEAST 
          NEED? CAN YOU SHARE? >> DISTRICT 7 WAS HIGHEST 
          NEED. >> CASTILLO: CAN YOU GIVE ME THE BREAKDOWN FOR ALL 
          THREE? >> HIGHEST NEED IN DISTRICT 7, THE ONES IN DISTRICT 1 WERE THE EASIEST TO CONVERT BECAUSE THEY HAD JUST LITTLE FIXES THAT WERE NEEDED. 
          >> CASTILLO: OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATION FOR THOSE THREE PROPERTIES, YOU ALL HAVEN'T BEGUN THE PROCESS BECAUSE YOU ALL NEED TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION. THE APPLICATION HAS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED YET? 
          >> THERE ARE MANY STEPS BEFORE WE CAN EVEN SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. 
          AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET. >> CASTILLO: OKAY. AND I BELIEVE YOU ANSWERED MY LAST QUESTION IN TERMS OF THESE WOULD -- THEY WOULD BE PROJECT-BASED VOUCHERS, NOT 
          NECESSARILY PROJECT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, CORRECT? >> RIGHT. 
          >> CASTILLO: AND IN TERMS OF THE PARTNERSHIP, FOR CLARIFICATION, OPPORTUNITY HOME INTENDS TO MAINTAIN FULL OWNERSHIP AND NOT ENTER INTO A PUBLIC-PRIVATE 
          PARTNERSHIP. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THAT IS FOR THOSE THREE 
          PROPERTIES OR THE ENTIRE PORTFOLIO? >> THE ENTIRE PORTFOLIO. 
          WE HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT OF HUD BECAUSE THEY DON'T ALLOW US TO HAVE DEBT ON THE PROPERTY. WE TAKE OWNERSHIP AND THEN MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT 
          ARE NEEDED. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, LORRAINE. 
          >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> CASTILLO: AND THEN YOU ALL MAY HAVE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION. HAS HUD APPROVED FINANCING PLAN BY ISSUING A RAD? 
          >> CORRECT. >> CASTILLO: AND ONE OF THE STEPS FOR THAT APPLICATION TO BE SUBMITTED WOULD BE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? THERE'S A LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT'S NEEDED. 
          CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH WHO THAT WOULD BE FROM? >> CAN YOU REPEAT THE 
          QUESTION? >> IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE CONVERSION FROM RAD TO HUD IT WOULD NEED SEVERAL LETTERS? CAN YOU TELL ME WHO WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT THE LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF THE RAD CONVERSIONS? 
          >> WE WOULD GO FIRST THROUGH THE PROCESS OF OUR MEETINGS AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE RESIDENT ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH WE HAVE IN PLACE. 
          IF THERE'S A RESIDENT COUNCIL OR JUST THE RESIDENTS WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS SUPPORT FROM THE CITY, FROM THE MAYOR. 
          >> CASTILLO: IF YOU FOR THAT. AND THE LAST COMPONENT THAT YOU LAID OUT FROM THE RESIDENTS COUNCIL AND FROM RESIDENTS, THE LEASE CHANGE PREEMPTS COMMUNITY FROM ENGAGING IN CONVERSATION OR PETITION ISING. 
          THAT SEEMS PREEMPTIVE, RIGHT? AGAIN, THAT SEEMS VERY CONCERNING IN TERMS OF A LEASE CHANGE THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED BY OPPORTUNITY HOME. THANK YOU, LORI. THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. DO ANY OF MY COUNCIL 
          COLLEAGUES HAVE COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN GALVAN. >> GALVAN: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU ALL FOR MEETING WITH ME LAST WEEK AND TAKING MORE ABOUT THIS IN DETAIL, I KNOW I HAD A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS RELATED TO RAD. 
          I'M A BIT APPREHENSIVE ABOUT THE HOUSING, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING AT THE MOMENT AND HAPPENING DECADES UPON DECADES UPON DECADES. 
          I'M HOPEFUL WITH THIS CONVERSATION, THE ONE WE'RE HAVING TODAY AND ANY OTHER CONVERSATION IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THIS KIND OF EFFECTIVE DIALOGUE AND HOPEFULLY SET OUR EXPECTATIONS FROM THE CITY GIVEN THAT YOU ARE THE CITY'S HOUSING AUTHORITY, YOU SERVE THE RESIDENTS THAT WE ALSO SERVE SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT THINGS ARE NEEDED THERE AND HOW TO BE THE BEST PARTNERS AND DELIVER ON PRESERVING THE MOST AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE ENTIRE CITY IS CRUCIAL. WE'LL HOPEFULLY HAVE GOOD CONVERSATIONS. I THINK THEY WILL. ON A HIGH LEVEL I WANTED TO MAKE -- A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WITH THE PLAN TO UTILIZE RAD, HOW MANY UNITS DO YOU ANTICIPATE MAINTAINING AS WELL AS BUILDING NEW? 
          >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENT. 
          SO WE FULLY INTEND TO KEEP THE 6,000 UNITS. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES THAT HAVE UNDERUTILIZED ACREAGE OR BECAUSE OF CHANGES IN 
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ZONING WE CAN ACTUALLY BUILD HIGHER DENSITY. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE 
          THE DENSITY WITHIN OUR PUBLIC HOUSING. >> GALVAN: OKAY. 
          DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANYTHING IMPACTING THAT, WHETHER IT'S LOCAL OR ECONOMIC REASONS OR 
          ANY KIND OF FUNDING NEEDS? >> IMPACTING IT? >> CORRECT. 
          >> SUPPORT. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH EACH DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ZONING AND SUPPORT OF NOT ONLY OF 
          THE RESIDENTS, BUT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO DO SO. >> GALVAN: OKAY. 
          I GUESS I'M WONDERING AS YOU GET INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW UNITS -- PRESERVATION OF SOME UNITS AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MODERNIZING AMENITY THERE'S, DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY TRADE-OFFS OF A UNIT FOR ANY KIND OF AMENITY, WHETHER IT'S A PARK SPACE OR WHETHER IT'S COMMUNITY SPACE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE? 
          DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT? >> NO. IT CAN ONLY GET BETTER. 
          TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE AND BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE THAT WE HAVE IN SOME 
          AREAS, WE CAN IMPROVE THE AMENITIES. >> OKAY. 
          THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. 
          SOME OF THE CITIES OUT THERE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE CAN'T MAKE THIS FULLY SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO AS MANY AS WE CAN VERSUS THE FULL THING. 
          THAT'S SOME OF THE REALITIES WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT I WANTED TO BE CLEAR IS ALWAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING ONE FOR ONE. I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD 
          TO LOSE ANY MORE PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS IN OUR CITY. >> AGREED. 
          >> GALVAN: SOMETHING I WANTED TO ASK TOO WAS WOULD YOU -- SORRY, LET ME BACK UP FOR A SECOND. WE ARE LOOKING TO USE THE PROJECT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND I HEARD THE COMMENT ABOUT THOSE DOLLARS ARE REQUIRED TO STAY IN RESERVE AND BE USED FOR CAPITAL NEEDS. WOULD THOSE DOLLARS BE THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF MONEY OR USED AS LEVERAGE TO FINANCE DEBT? 
          >> SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT WILL BE USED FOR -- WHETHER 
          IT'S PBV OR PVRA? >> WHAT IS IT USED FOR MAINTENANCE? 
          IS IT LEVERAGING DEBT? >> FOR OPERATIONS. WHATEVER COMES IN THROUGH OPERATIONS THAT'S HOW WEE MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY. WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. SAW THE CHART THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH IN ADDITIONAL RENT WE'LL RECEIVE AND NOT FROM THE RESIDENT THEMSELVES, BUT FROM THE SUBSIDY THAT PROVIDES US TO PUT THAT RESERVE OR CREATE THAT RESERVE FOR CAPITAL 
          IMPROVEMENTS. >> RIGHT. SO THAT RESERVE, WOULD YOU USE THOSE DOLLARS DIRECTLY OR WOULD IT BE TO LEVERAGE DEBT, LIKE THE MORTGAGE AS 
          MENTIONED EARLIER? >> IT WOULD BE TO FIX THE BUILDING. 
          >> GALVAN: OKAY. SO THEN WHERE WOULD THE MORTGAGE CONVERSATION COME IN THERE? I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED. 
          >> SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE GOING TO REDO A PROPERTY, RIGHT NOW WE COULD GO -- NOT RIGHT NOW. ONCE WE GAIN OWNERSHIP OF IT WE CAN GO TO A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT OUR PLAN IS, SHOW THEM THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SUBSIDY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW EVEN IF PUBLIC HOUSING, EVEN IF HUD LET US TAKE OUT DEBT, THE PROPERTY COULDN'T SUSTAIN IT. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FUNDING THAT COMES IN EVEN TO UPDATE THE PROPERTY, MUCH LESS DEBT. 
          SO WE WOULD SHOW THEM THE INCREASE IN THE SUBSIDY BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACT WE'RE RECEIVING THROUGH PBRA OR PBV IS GOING TO INCREASE THE SUBSIDY SO MUCH THAT THE 
          OPERATIONS OF THE PROPERTY CAN NOW SUPPORT THAT. >> GALVAN: I SEE. 
          OKAY. IN SOME OF THE CITIES AND COUNTIES I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT MODELS AND WE TALKED ABOUT THEM PREVIOUSLY WITH MICHAEL, THERESA AND HECTOR. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER CITIES THAT ARE LOOKING AT WAYS TO CONTINUE TO PRESERVE PUBLIC HOUSING, ALTHOUGH THROUGH AN INFUSION OF RAD DOLLARS, STILL FINDING WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MAINTAINING THE DEBT STRUCTURE WITHIN PUBLIC HOUSING SOURCES THAT WAY THERE ISN'T ANY RISK OF THE MARKET IMPACTING THEM AND LOSING THE UNIT BECAUSE OF SOME ECONOMIC DOWNTURN OR FINANCIAL CRISIS, THAT THE COLLATERAL BEING THE PUBLIC HOUSING IS NOT TAKEN AWAY OR OFF OF THE HOUSING COMPLETELY. I WANTED TO ASK, I GUESS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATION -- THOSE ARE LONGER TERM CONVERSATIONS. BUT GIVEN STRATEGIC PLAN, THINKING ABOUT -- HAVE YOU LOOKED AT -- WOULD YOU CONSIDER REFINANCING THESE LOANS AS TAKEN OUT INTO A LARGER PUBLIC SUBSIDY OR INTO A LARGER PUBLIC 
          PORTFOLIO? >> I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. 
          >> GALVAN: SOME CITIES HAVE DIFFERENT FUNDING, USUALLY LOCAL, TO DO REDEVELOPMENTS AND WITH SOME OF THE RESOURCES THEY'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEM WITHOUT GOING TO THE PUBLIC MARKET. COULD YOU EVER CONSIDER 
          DOING THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY. IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY 
          FOR US -- >> GALVAN: IT'S A BIG IF, I'M AWARE OF THAT. 
          >> WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE DOWNTOWN, THE ONE WE SHOWED YOU, MARIE MCGUIRE AND ALSO [INDISCERNIBLE], ALSO DOWNTOWN, DISTRICT 1, WE'VE GOT CAPITAL FUNDS, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GRANTS AND THEN IF WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE ANY INTERNAL DOLLARS, WHETHER IT'S FROM REAL ESTATE OR FROM METROPOLITAN, THEN WE VERY WELL -- FROM MTW WE 
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COULD MAKE ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT GETTING A MORTGAGE. 
          >> GALVAN: THAT'S HELPFUL. I THINK IT'S HELPFUL IN THE CONVERSATIONS -- AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S A BIG WHAT IF, BUT AS WE'RE SEEING OTHER CITIES LOOK AT IT, TRYING TO SEE WHAT THOSE COULD LOOK LIKE IN SAN ANTONIO WOULD BE HELPFUL AND WHAT PARTNERSHIP YOU WOULD NEED WITH US. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE SOURCE IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR LOCAL SOURCES, HELLO, HERE WE ARE, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE IN THE NEXT BOND CONVERSATION. ANYWAY, I'LL LEAVE THOSE 
          THERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          >> GALVAN: MY LAST COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS, ONE LAST ONE ON RAD, RELATED TO THE RELOCATION, YOU HAVEN'T SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE HUD RULES THAT REFER TO RELOCATION AND HOUSING. I NOTICE ON PAGE 92 OF THE MOVING TO WORK PLAN, IT MENTIONS THE REQUIREMENTS AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE ALIGNED WITH RAD CONVERSIONS AND THE HUD REQUIREMENTS THERE. 
          BUT IT DOES ALSO MENTION THAT OPPORTUNITY HOME IS NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A WRITTEN RELOCATION PLAN FOR TEMPORARY RELOCATION LASTING ONE YEAR OR LESS. 
          GIVEN THAT MAINTENANCE OR REDEVELOPMENT WILL BE A LOT LONGER, WOULD YOU CONSIDER 
          DOING RELOCATION PLANS? >> THAT'S OUR PLAN. HUD DOESN'T REQUIRE IT, WE DO. WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE. 
          WE WILL ASSESS THE AREA, WE WILL TALK TO THE RESIDENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT, ONE, THEY WANT TO STAY IN THE AREA AND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO MOVE 
          CLOSER TO FAMILY, WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY. >> GALVAN: GOT IT. 
          I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL -- MAKING THAT AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS, HAVING THE WRITTEN RELOCATION PLAN TO MAKE SURE THEY FEEL -- THAT THERE'S TRUST THERE, BUT BE SURE THAT THEY COULD COME BACK. I THINK IT'S THE BIGGEST ON HE ON HE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IN OTHER CITIES AND I KNOW YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS WELL ABOUT THE ISSUE OF PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO RETURN ON-SITE ONCE IT'S DONE. 
          OF COURSE, THAT'S FOR ANY RELOCATION, ANY REDEVELOPMENT, THAT ALWAYS HAPPENS. TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP THAT 
          COMMITMENT IS REALLY CRUCIAL TO ME. >> ONE THING TO NOTE AND I HEARD IT EARLIER, IS THE COST TO MOVE. HUD ONLY REQUIRES THAT WE MOVE THEM ONE TIME. WE DON'T. OUR COMMITMENT IS TO MOVE THEM -- IF THEY HAVE TO BE RELOCATED OFF SITE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OR THE REHABILITATION, WE MOVE THEM, WE PAY FOR THAT MOVE, AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE READY TO COME BACK, IF THEY CHOOSE TO COME BACK, THEN WE WILL MOVE THEM BACK TO THE 
          PROPERTY. WE WILL PAY FOR THAT. >> GALVAN: THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW. LAST COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS, ON THE REVISION TO THE LEASES, I SHARE A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCILMEMBER CAS RAISED -- CASTILLO RAISED. WE'RE FOCUSING PRIMARILY ON THE COMMERCIAL SOLICITING, FOR-PROFIT SOLICITING AND I HEARD A LOT OF INTERNAL TENANT TO TENANT. 
          DOES THAT MEAN X AMOUNT OF SOLICITING IS NOT AFFECTED BY THIS CHANGE, ANY EXTERNAL 
          DOOR KNOCKING, ANY EXTERNAL FLYERING? >> I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE 
          QUESTION AGAIN? >> GALVAN: THE QUESTION WAS AROUND THE REVISION TO THE PUBLIC HOUSING LEASE IN REGARDS TO SOLICITATION. I HEARD EARLIER IT WAS ONLY INTERNAL FROM TENANT TO TENANT. DOES THAT MEAN EXTERNAL FOLKS ARE STILL ABLE TO COME ON-SITE? I ASK THAT THINKING ABOUT FOLKS LIKE NISD OR FOLKS GETTING READY TO COME TO WORK, COULD THEY STILL COME 
          ON SITE? >> THEY COULD STILL COME ON SITE, BUT ALL WE ASK IS FOR SOME LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION WITH OUR MANAGEMENT OFFICE SO WE'RE AWARE AND IT'S NOT SOME PREDATORY TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT'S COMING ON AND TAKING ADVANTAGE, 
          BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THAT HA HAPPEN AS WELL. >> GALVAN: YEAH. 
          WHAT WOULD BE THE REPERCUSSION IF THEY DIDN'T? >> IF THE OUTSIDE -- 
          >> GALVAN: THE OUTSIDE PERSON OR OUTSIDE GROUP DIDN'T GO TO THE PROPERTY 
          MANAGEMENT OFFICE? >> WELL, IT JUST DEPENDS. IF WE FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE, IF WE HAVE COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER RESIDENTS, THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY CALL THEM AND 
          ADDRESS IT AND ASK THEM NOT TO DO IT AGAIN. >> GALVAN: I SEE. 
          >> YOU COULD TAKE IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HAVING SOME TYPE OF LEGAL DOCUMENT IN PLACE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS THAT WOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THAT. 
          >> GALVAN: I SEE. ONE THING THAT I THINK IS -- ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION WITH THIS ONE IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO FOLKS WHO ARE EVEN DOING PETITIONING OR DOING VOTER ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS OR ARE DOING INFORMATION SHARING ABOUT UPCOMING ELECTIONS, ET CETERA, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THOSE ARE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY'RE THE RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE, FREE SPEECH, ET CETERA. DO YOU FIND ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE IMPACTING THAT AT ALL? PRIMARILY IN ONES THAT ARE IN HOUSING THAT ARE NOT 
          GATED. >> RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT PIECE TO MANAGE. SO WE'RE MOSTLY CONCERNED WITH OUR ELDERLY IN THE HI-RISE BUILDINGS, THOSE ARE SECURED BUILDINGS. 
          IF THEY'RE GETTING IN WITHOUT ANY PERMISSION OR ANY ACCESS, THAT'S AN ISSUE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE ASK -- COMMUNICATE WITH OUR OFFICE AND WE'LL COORDINATE 
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          MEETINGS IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF -- >> GALVAN: UNDERSTOOD. 
          AND I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GATED, THEY'RE SECURED AS YOU MENTIONED. FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT WOULD THIS STILL APPLY TO THEM, 
          THIS NEW RULE? >> IT WOULD TECHNICALLY APPLY. 
          OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE, BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT IMPACTING THE TENANT BECAUSE THIS IS A TENANT LEASE SITUATION. SO IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE TENANT LEASE THAT WE WOULD BE DEALING WITH THIS IF WE RECEIVE COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS. 
          >> GALVAN: OKAY. I GUESS IT'S WORRYING ABOUT THE LANGUAGE [INDISCERNIBLE] FOR PLACES THAT AREN'T SECURE. I THINK TO YOUR POINT IT'S DIFFICULT TO MANAGE THAT. I WORRY ABOUT IN EVENT THAT SOMEONE LIKE THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS GOES OUT THERE AND ARE DOING DOOR KNOCKING, I'M SURE THE CONVERSATION WOULD BE A BIT DIFFERENT WHEN IT HAPPENS, BUT I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A DISCOURAGEMENT FROM NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATIONS TO TRY TO GO ON-SITE AND TRY TO DO VOTER REGISTRATION OR EVEN PARTISAN ONES GIVEN IT'S THE RIGHT OF CANDIDATES AND PARTIES TO GO ON-SITE TO PUBLIC STREET AND GO UP TO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO THEM IF THEY WANT TO. IF THEY DON'T, DIFFERENT ISSUE, WHERE FOLKS DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUSH THEM AWAY AND SEND THEM OFF. 
          I WORRY ABOUT THE MESSAGE IT SENDS OF IF IT HAPPENS ONCE OR TWICE AND SOMEONE GETS A NOTE OF IT, WHETHER IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS PAGED AND TELLS THEIR BOSS AND THEY SAY WE DON'T GO TO [INDISCERNIBLE] ANYMORE. I THINK THAT'S MY HESITATION 
          WITH THESE OR MY WORRY WITH THIS ONE. >> AND RIGHTFULLY SO. 
          I THINK BOTTOM LINE AS AN ORGANIZATION IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP MAINTAIN THAT PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT FOR THE HOUSEHOLDS AND THAT'S OUR MAIN -- IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT OCCURS AND RESIDENTS DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, WE PROBABLY WON'T 
          EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT. >> GALVAN: FAIR ENOUGH. >> UNTIL WE KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE'S A SECURITY ISSUE OR A SITUATION THAT OCCURS. 
          BUT IN REALITY THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE DISCOURAGING. 
          WE JUST WANT TO ENHANCE THE PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS IN ANY WAY. AND WE HAVE SEEN WHERE RESIDENTS COME TO OUR OFFICE AND SAY IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD SUPPORT THIS CANDIDATE OR HAVE SOME TYPE OF EVENT ON PROPERTY? AND WE WORK WITH THOSE FAMILIES. 
          >> GALVAN: OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW. I THINK THAT'S STILL HESITATION WITHIN THE TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE WRITTEN IN THE PLAN. 
          I THINK IF ANY OF THAT COULD BE UPDATED I'D APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I APPRECIATE GIVEN THE INTENT HERE PUBLICLY. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS 
          FOR NOW, THANK YOU. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN KAUR. 
          >> KAUR: THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          AND FOR ALL THE EDUCATION THAT I GOT ON THIS PROGRAM LAST WEEK TOO. 
          COUNCILMEMBER MUNGIA AND I ACTUALLY WENT TO A CONVERSATION CITY BIPARTISAN POLICY CENTER THAT HAD A HOUSING GROUP AND THEY WERE TALKING TO US ABOUT HOUSING POLICY. IT WAS SUPER INFORMATIVE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT AVENUES THAT WE HAVE TO SUPPORT OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, WHICH I THINK IS THE GOAL. SO I THINK WE ALL HAVE THE SAME GOAL, BUT THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE'RE GETTING THERE, AND I THINK THAT'S A VALID CONCERN THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. QUITE TRANSPARENTLY I SAY THIS TO PUBLIC WORKS ALL THE TIME. THIS IS LIKE SIMILAR PEOPLE HAVE A PERCEPTION THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SELL OFF PUBLIC HOUSING, WHICH IS THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THIS WORK IS. IT'S OUR JOB TO GO OVER AND BEYOND AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT UNINTENTIONALLY CREATING MORE MISCONCEPTION THAT DOESN'T NEED TO EXIST. SO TELLING PEOPLE THEY CAN'T GO DOOR KNOCKING WITHOUT GETTING PERMISSION IS A EVERYBODY DOOR KNOCK AWAY. I THINK YOU WILL GET MORE SUPPORT THAN OPPOSITION FROM FOLKS THAT ARE LIKE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THE DOOR, YOU DON'T ANSWER THE DOOR. IT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS DO. WHEN YOU GO UP AND YOU HAVE SOMEONE KNOCK ON THE DOOR, I DON'T FEEL LIKE GETTING UP OUT OF BED, DON'T GO DOOR KNOCKING ON A SATURDAY MORNING AT 9:00 A.M. IN MY HOME PEOPLE COME DOOR KNOCK AND SELL THINGS EVERYDAY. I UNDERSTAND PREDATORY LIKE THOSE FOLKS THAT COME TRY TO SELL YOU SOLAR PANELS WHEN YOU SO I WANT BE PURCHASING THE SOLAR PANELS. THAT IS A CHALLENGE. SORRY IF ANYBODY IS TEAR THAT SUPPORTS THAT WORK. [LAUGHTER]. BUT IT IS ALSO OUR JOB AS COMMUNITY LEADERS TO GO OUT AND EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT FALLING INTO PREDATORY TRAPS AND NOT OUR JOB TO SENSOR. AND I THINK WHAT PEOPLE ARE HEARING FROM THAT POLICY SPECIFIC IS LIKE AN ATTEMPT TO CENSOR, WHICH IS NOT TO YOUR POINT AND WHAT COUNCILMEMBER SAID IS NOT THE INTENT. 
          SO LET'S JUST CHANGE IT. LET'S THINK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE COMING UP AND LET'S JUST CHANGE THE POLICY SO IT DOESN'T MAKE IT SEEM IN A WAY THAT IT'S NOT 
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INTENDING TO. THAT BEING SAID, I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT -- I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE FROM OUR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN OH PROPERTIES IS ABOUT MAINTENANCE. 
          WE GET CALLS ALL THE TIME ABOUT IT. FOR VICTORIA PLAZA, [INDISCERNIBLE] AND PARK VIEW APARTMENTS ALL HAVE MAJOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND WE GET CALLS ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE OPPORTUNITY HERE, NO PUN INTENDED, THE OPPORTUNITY. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DID LOOK UP SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND COUNCILWOMAN WAS MENTIONING SOME OF THEM AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE WHAT -- IT WOULD ALSO BE IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO DISCUSS I THINK OPENLY WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES LIKE HAVE INCURRED AND HOW ARE WE MITIGATING THOSE RISKS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DO IT AGAIN? SO RATHER THAN FRAMING THIS AS AN OH, WE'RE THE LAST CITY TO ADOPT, MAYBE WE COULD FRAME IT AS WE'VE LEARNED SO MUCH BECAUSE WE ARE THE LAST CITY TO ADOPT AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED IS A LOT OF THE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SOLD IT TO --D THE MANAGEMENT GOES TO PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT ENTITIES, WHICH I'M HEARING YOU GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO DO. BUT THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER CHALLENGE WHICH IS INTERNAL ASSET MANAGEMENT. WHAT IS THE PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT CHALLENGE OF MAKING SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY IN-HOUSE TO INTERNALLY MANAGE? SO LIKE I THINK SHARING THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT UNDERSTANDING. ANOTHER ONE THAT I READ ABOUT IS CONSTRUCTION. 
          NO ONE IS THE CITY IS GREAT AT CONSTRUCTION. SO LIKE WHEN YOU WERE CONSTRUCTING FOR TOO LONG, TO YOUR POINT OVER A YEAR, YOU CAN CAUSE PERMANENT DISLOCATION OF A PERSON. IF YOU KICK -- IF YOU'VE RELOCATED SOMEONE ELSE TO ANOTHER SPOT, THEY MAY NEVER CHOOSE TO AM COULD BACK TO THEIR FAMILY HOME. 
          WE HEARD FROM THE ONE STUDENT WHO SPENT THEY ARE WHOLE LIFE THERE. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE THINK ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT AS A PUBLIC ENTITY MANAGING CONSTRUCTION THAT WE DON'T TAKE TOO LONG. 
          AND THE REVERSE OF THAT THAT I ALSO READ WAS NOT PUTTING ENOUGH MONEY IN RESERVES TO ACTUALLY REDO? SO THE IDEA THAT ONE OF THE PROPERTIES WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE IT HAS HIGH NEED AND THE OTHER TWO HAVE LOW NEEDS, BUT WE SHOULD STILL BE USING SOME OF THOSE OPERATIONAL DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GETTING SHOULD GO BACK TO THOSE PROPERTIES RATHER THAN GOING TO OFFSET ANOTHER ONE, RIGHT? WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REINVEST THAT IN SOME WAY TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS THERE. SO ONE OF THE STRATEGIES IS HAVING A DASHBOARD. 
          I KNOW I FEEL LIKE EVERY COMMITTEE MEETING I TALK ABOUT A DASHBOARD. 
          ONE OF OUR OTHER CLOGS TALKED ABOUT A LARGE CHALLENGE IS ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          HOW ARE WE SHOWING THAT WE'LL SHOW OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO KEEPING THIS AT THE SAME -- THE SAME TYPE OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE AS WAS THERE BEFORE. 
          SO I THINK IF YOU HAD A DASHBOARD THAT YOU SHOWED THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRACK, WE'RE GOING TO TRACK HOW MANY DOLLARS HAVE GONE INTO EACH PROPERTY AFTER THE --, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL -- EACH OF THE -- DO AN AUDIT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AT THE DOWNTOWN PROPERTY AND THIS IS HOW FAR WE HAVE GOTTEN ON THAT. 
          SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE, OKAY, THIS IS HOW WE'VE MADE PROGRESS. 
          IF -- I KNOW THERE WAS TALK ABOUT CHOOSING A NON-PROFIT PARTNER. 
          LET'S SHOW A MATRIX OF WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CONSIDER FOR WHEN WE'RE DECIDING A NON-PROFIT PARTNER. WE'VE BUILT UP CAPACITY WITH THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST FOR PARTNERS THAT WILL SUPPORT THIS, BUT WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IF SOMEONE COMES FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY DO WE KNOW IF THEY'RE A REAL NON-PROFIT? IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO CREATE A 501(C)3 AS AN OFFSHOOT OF A DEVELOPMENT FIRM? WHAT'S THE MATRIX THAT YOU WILL LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THE PARTNER SELECTION IS REALLY SOLID? I THINK -- AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN INITIAL CONVERSATION. YOU GUYS HAVEN'T VOTED ON IT YET, BUT SOMETIMES THE MORE YOU CAN SHOW OF LIKE THINGS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO HELP US. 
          AND I THINK AS YOU SEE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRUST. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO MORE ON THAT. AND THE LAST THING I'LL END WITH IS COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN HAD MENTIONED AN ADVISORY BOARD OF SORTS. YOU DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THE BOARD STRUCTURE, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE OPPORTUNITY HOME BOARD REMAINS THE BOARD OF THESE PROPERTIES. SO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF CITY COUNCIL OPPORTUNITY HOME COLLABORATION FOR AN ADVISORY BOARD, AND IF THAT ADVISORY BOARD COULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING AN ACCOUNTABILITY AUDIT EVERY YEAR OR REPORTING OUT TO US OR SOME TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP SO THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE STAY ENGAGED BECAUSE THE OTHER THING THAT WE SHARED WAS LIKE US READING ABOUT A PUBLIC HOUSING SPOT AND MY DISTRICT GOING RAD ONLINE IS NOT THE BEST WAY FOR US TO 
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BE INFORMED ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF BECAUSE IT CAUSES INITIAL, LIKE -- INITIAL FRUSTRATION AND DISTRUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, EVEN IF IT'S THE ONLY THING POSSIBLE. I RANTED FOR LONG TIME AND DIDN'T ASK QUESTIONS. 
          I THINK THE LAST, LAST THING I'LL SAY IS KNOWING THE NITTY-GRITTY OF THINGS LIKE HEY, IS SOMEONE'S STUDENT LOAN GOING TO AFFECT THEIR INCOME WILL ALSO BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE CAN TRULY SEE, THIS IS TRULY NOT GOING TO KICK PEOPLE OUT IF THEY'RE LESS THAN 80% AMI THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PAY $278, IF WE COULD HAVE THE EVIDENCE TO BACK THAT UP I THINK THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SUPPORT. 
          BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND HUD'S NOT GETTING ANOTHER BILLION DOLLARS TO GIVE TO YOU ALL, BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BUILDING UP THE RIGHT TEAM, THE RIGHT SUPPORTS TO KEEP OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS SAFE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          THANKS, CHAIR. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN KAUR. 
          I THINK YOU JUST ASSIGNED YOURSELF TO A NEW COMMITTEE. CONGRATULATIONS. 
          COUNCILWOMAN MEZA GONZÁLEZ. >> GONZÁLEZ: ON SLIDE 7 IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT ABOUT FROM A AND D YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 8500 HOMES THAT ARE MOSTLY IN THE PRESERVATION SPACE. SO DO YOU HAVE A CLEAR STRATEGY ON MODERNIZING -- FOR THE MODERNIZATION PIECE DO YOU HAVE A CLEAR STRATEGY ON NOT TO DISPLACE THOSE RESIDENTS? AND CAN YOU SHARE THAT OR IS THAT PART OF THE PLAN TO BE 
          VOTED ON? >> SO AS WE WERE DISCUSSING, WE WOULD CREATE FOR EVERY PROJECT, NO MATTER HOW BIG OR HOW SMALL, IF WE HAVE TO RELOCATE RESIDENTS OFF SITE FOR WHATEVER REASON, FOR WHATEVER TIME FRAME. IT COULD BE TWO WEEKS TO A YEAR, WE WOULD ALWAYS CREATE A RELOCATION PLAN AND BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT AND PLAN IT WITH THEM TO THEY ARE FULLY WEAR OF HOW IT WORKS AND WHERE THEY WOULD GO AND IF THEY WERE IN NEED OF SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE 
          CONCERNS. >> GONZÁLEZ: IS THAT CODIFIED SOMEWHERE? 
          >> IT'S GOING TO BE FOR EVERY PROJECT THAT WE DO. >> GONZÁLEZ: HOW IS 
          THAT -- >> IT'S IN AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL PLAN. 
          >> GONZÁLEZ: AND THE BOARD VOTES ON IT? OKAY. 
          AND THEN ON SLIDE 8 ON D, YOU GUYS ARE ESSENTIALLY CREATING A NON-PROFIT ARM WITHIN -- IS THAT WHAT THAT'S SAYING? AM I READING THAT RIGHT? MY SLIDE 8. MY BAD. 7. 
          ON D, IS THAT NON-PROFIT WITHIN OPPORTUNITY HOME? >> THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A 501(C)3. FORMERLY IT WAS KNOWN AS THE EDUCATION INVESTMENT FOUNDATION OR THE EIF. IT -- DURING COVID IT WENT INTO DISUSE AND WE ARE WANTING TO REVIVE IT AND START THE PHILANTHROPIC EFFORTS AGAIN. 
          SO WE HAVE SUBMITTED FOR THE RENEWAL OF THAT 501(C)3, AND YES, THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS IT WILL BE USED TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE RESIDENT SERVICES AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR. 
          IN YEARS PRIOR WE'VE USED THIS FUND FOR EDUCATION, FOR SCHOLARSHIPS, FOR WORK SUPPORTS, CLOTH CLOTHING. ING, BUS PASSES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          >> GONZÁLEZ: AND HOW MUCH MONEY DID Y'ALL HAVE IN THERE, WERE YOU RAISING? 
          >> GOODNESS. I BELIEVE IN YEARS PRIOR IT WAS ABOUT 120,000 PER YEAR 
          THAT WE WERE RAISING. IT WAS GOOD. >> GONZÁLEZ: YEAH. 
          AND THE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE FOR -- >> THE SCHOLARSHIPS, WE HAVE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR PERFECT ATTENDANCE AND A/B HONOR ROLL FOR ELEMENTARY AND JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAD STUDENTS GOING ON TO COLLEGE. SO FIRST-TIME STUDENTS GOING TO COLLEGE WOULD RECEIVE A 
          SCHOLARSHIP THAT WAS RENEWABLE AS WELL. >> GONZÁLEZ: THANK YOU. 
          OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE A SHIP PARTNER, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT OPPORTUNITY HOME WOULD NOT BE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF UNITS, PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS OR 30% AMI UNITS AS PART OF THIS OVERALL CONVERSION PLAN? 
          >> YES, I CAN CONFIRM WE ARE NOT REDUCING THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS AT 30% AMI. 
          >> GONZÁLEZ: OKAY.  AND MAYBE YOU CAN DO THIS OFFLINE. 
          I WANTED SOME MORE BACKGROUND. I KNOW THE WOOD HILL PROJECT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN DISTRICT 8, IS PART OF YOUR DRAFT MTW PLAN. 
          ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE WOOD HILL PROJECT? >> YES. 
          >> GONZÁLEZ: THIS IS THE FIRST I'M LEARNING ABOUT IT. I THINK THAT'S IN DATA DISTRICT 
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          88 IF I'M NOT WRONG. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IF YOU CAN SHARE MORE ON 
          THAT PROJECT OR SOMETHING YOU DO OFFLINE, UP TO YOU. >> SPECIFICALLY WHAT ARE YOU 
          ASKING? >> GONZÁLEZ: HOW IS IT IN THE MTW PLAN? 
          HOW DID IT MAKE ITS WAY THERE? >> IN THE MTW PLAN? SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO WE HAVE A GROUP OF NON-PUBLIC HOUSING PROPERTIES THAT WE OVERSEE, OWN AND MANAGE. WOOD HILL HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THE LARGEST, IT'S 532 UNITS. AS PART OF THE MTW PLAN WE'RE PLANNING ON USING SOME OF OUR MTW FUNDS TO DO SOME WORK AT THAT SITE. 
          > OKAY. >> THAT'S REALLY HOW IT WORKS. 
          >> I'LL LEARN MORE OFFLINE. THERESA IS LOOKING AT ME. [LAUGHTER]. 
          I KNOW THAT LOOK. AND THEN LAST QUESTION WAS -- I LOST IT AS I WAS TALKING. I GUESS I'LL SAY TOO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS -- WE'VE SAID THIS FOR YEARS. ON THE FACT THAT RESIDENTS ARE TELLING US -- ARE TELLING YOU WE WANT MORE INFORMATION, NOT AWARE OF PROGRAMS, MORE INFORMATION, EDUCATION ABOUT OPPORTUNITY HOME. 
          AND ALSO MAKING SURE STAFF, RIGHT, IS PREPARED FOR THAT. IT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT KEEPS THE MORALE GOING FOR SO MANY OF THESE HOUSING UNITS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S JUST EXTREMELY IMPORTANT INTERNALLY THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. WE ARE -- LAST WEEK I MET WITH CROWN RIMING NEIGHBORHOOD, A NEIGHBORHOOD IN DISTRICT 8 OFF I-10 WEST. MAYBE THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING YOU CAN SHARE WITH ME AT ANOTHER TIME, BUT IT'S NOT A PFC PROJECT, BUT IT'S A -- 
          IS IT CHAPTER 303? IS IT 392? >> [INAUDIBLE]. 
          >> GONZÁLEZ: I WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT OTHER PROJECTS YOU HAVE ONLINE IN DISTRICT 8 SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WERE NOT AWARE THAT THIS PROJECT WAS HAPPENING, AND GOING TO YOUR POINT AND TRUST AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE THAT TRUST IN THE DISTRICT, SO I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE LIKE THAT IN THE DIRECT. SO IF SOMEONE CAN PROVIDE 
          THAT LIST I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> ABSOLUTELY. 
          >> GONZÁLEZ: THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. WE'LL GO TO ROUND 2 OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. 
          COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO. >> CASTILLO: A COUPLE OF LAST QUESTIONS. 
          I HEARD ONE THING, BUT I BELIEVE I READ ANOTHER SO I HAD MY TEAM BRING ME DOWN BY COPY OF THE MOVE TO WORK PLAN. MY UNDERSTANDING, AS STATED A COUPLE OF TIMES, IS THAT OPPORTUNITY HOME INTENDS TO MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP THROUGH THESE RAD CONVERSIONS. HOWEVER, UNDER SECTION 21.2B SECTION C, IT STATES HUD MAY ALSO ALLOW OWNERSHIP OF THE PROJECT TO BE TRANSFERRED TO A TAX CREDIT ENTITY CONTROLLED BY A FOR-PROFIT ENTITY TO FACILITATE THE USE OF TAX CREDITS FOR THE PROJECT. THEN THE SECTION GOES ON, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION AND CONCERN IS WITH THAT SECTION CODIFIED WITHIN THE MOVE TO WORK PLAN, OUR EXPECTATION THAT THAT SECTION IS NOT GOING TO BE USED UNDER SECTION FOR OWNERSHIP AND 
          CONTROL? >> I'M GOING TO DEFER IN A SECOND, BUT TYPICALLY IN ANY TYPE OF REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AS WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, EVERY SINGLE PLAN IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. AS WE'VE MENTIONED, A FEW OF THE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY AND WHOLLY-OWNED BY US, BUT TO ACQUIRE AND INVEST THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS DOWN THE ROAD, WE MAY NEED TAX CREDIT INVESTORS. BUT ALL OF THAT ON WOULD STILL BE UNDER CONTROL. 
          I'LL DEFER TO OUR CHIEF REAL ESTATE OFFICER. WE'D STILL HAVE CONTROL VIA THE LAND LEASE AND STILL HAVE CONTROL UNDER ANY TYPE OF MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WE MAY PUT INTO PLACE AND PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PARTNERS AS WE DO REDEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION THAT EVERY PROJECT IS GOING TO HAVE ITS UNIQUE CHALLENGES. 
          >> CASTILLO: AND MAYBE LORRAINE YOU CAN ANSWER. MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND, MAYBE I'M BLURRING THE TWO. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE MOVE TO WORK PLAN THIS IS SPECIFIC FOR RAD CONVERSIONS WITH OUR PUBLIC HOUSING 
          STOCK, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> CASTILLO: AND WITHIN THE OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL NOTICE IT DOES HAVE SECTION C, WHICH I JUST READ, BUT THEN I'M ALSO HEARING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL ITEMS ADDED TO THE PROPOSAL THAT MAY REQUIRE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, BUT THAT WOULD BE IN 
          ADDITION TO, CORRECT? NOT THE CURRENT STOCK? >> SO OUR INTENT IS FULLY TO 
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UTILIZE TAX CREDITS WHERE WE CAN BECAUSE TAX CREDITS COME WITH ALSO DEBT. 
          YOU CAN EITHER DO PURE TAX CREDITS OR YOU COUPLE THEM, FOUR PERCENT TAX CREDITS WITH BONDS SO YOU GET BOTH A DEBT AND EQUITY PROVIDER. THEY'RE IN IT TO HELP PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. WITH OUR DEBT THAT MEANS OUR CONSTRUCTION LOAN, WHICH THEN ROLLS INTO A PERMANENT LOAN, RIGHT? THE EQUITY PIECE, THIS IS IMPORTANT, THEY'LL PROVIDE EQUITY BECAUSE THE TAX CREDITS WE GET FROM TDHCA WE SELL IT TO SOMEBODY. WE SELL IT TO A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION. IN THE GREAT DAYS THEY USED TO PAY DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, AT LEAST, FOR NOT MORE. NOW WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING ABOUT 84 CENTS CENTS PER TAX CREDIT. THEY WANT THE TAX CREDITS TO OFFSET DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR ON THEIR TAX OBLIGATION, SO THEY STAY IN THE DEAL FOR THE FIRST 15 YEARS, WHICH IS A COMPLIANCE PERIOD. WE WRITE INTO THE REAL ESTATE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL. OUR INTENT IS WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE 15-YEAR COMPLIANCE PERIOD WE NOW OWN THE PROPERTY. NOT THAT FINANCIAL INSTITUTION. AND IT'S FOR THEM AS WELL. THEY'RE IN IT FOR THE TAX CREDITS AND THE LOSSES THAT WE'LL EXPERIENCE WITHIN THE FIRST FEW YEARS OF STABILIZATION. YEAR 15 WE TAKE THEM OVER AND NOW WE FULLY OWN THEM WHOLLY, BUT YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A TAX CREDIT INVESTOR, AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS BECAUSE IF THEY GIVE US $20 MILLION IN EQUITY, WE DON'T REPAY IT. 
          SO. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          MY LAST QUESTION AND IF YOU COULD CONFIRM IF THIS IS CORRECT OR NOT, THIS UNDERSTANDING, WHICH IS HUD ALLOWS UP TO FIVE PERCENT REDUCTION IN UNITS PER RAD IN ADDITION TO UPDATES THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS IS ABOUT 6,000, THEN OPPORTUNITY HOME IS PERMITTED TO REDUCE UNITS BY 300, NOT INCLUDING UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT OR 
          INCORRECT? >> YEAH, AND THAT'S NOT OUR INTENT. 
          OUR INTENT IS TO DO ONE FOR ONE REPLACEMENT, OF THOUSAND UNITS. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO MOVE NOW BECAUSE YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT ONCE A UNIT GOES OFFLINE OR EVEN FULL BUILDINGS, BECAUSE WE HAVE FULL BUILDINGS THAT HAVE COME OFFLINE. ONCE THEY GO PAST TWO YEARS OF BEING VACANT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REHAB THEM AND MAKE THEM HABITABLE, WE LOSE SUBSIDY. 
          THERE'S NO MORE GETTING PUBLIC HOUSING. IT BECOMES FAIR CLOTH, RIGHT? FAIR CLOTH IN SAN ANTONIO DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE PUBLIC HOUSING PAYS SO LITTLE. SO FOR US TO KEEP THOSE UNITS WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY 
          TO REHAB AND PUT THEM BACK INTO OPERATION. >> CASTILLO: IS THAT 
          STATEMENT CORRECT OR INCORRECT? >> CAN YOU READ IT AGAIN? 
          >> IT IS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIVE PERCENT REDUCTION? 
          >> CASTILLO: YES. >> IT IS. BY THE HUD REGULATIONS YOU ARE ALLOWED TO REDUCE IF THERE'S A UNIT VACANT AT THE TIME THAT YOU START CONVERTING OR START THE APPLICATION PROCESS YOU ARE ALLOWED TO REDUCE. 
          IT'S NOT OUR INTENT. IT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO REDUCE. 
          IT SAYS YOU MAY. OUR INTENT IS TO CONTINUE WITH THE ONE FOR ONE. 
          >> CASTILLO: YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY THE ROAD TO SOMETHING IS PAVED WITH. 
          THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. 
          >> MUNGIA: WHAT WAS THE FULL QUOTE? [LAUGHTER]. 
          COUNCILMEMBER GALVAN? >> GALVAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          REALLY QUICK LAST TWO THINGS. I WANTED TO SHARE A BIT OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER KAUR WAS SAYING ABOUT THE TRUST. TALKING ABOUT THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WORK. I WANT TO SAY THAT AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT ONE OF THE FIRST CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH DOING OUR BUDGET AND THE NEW HOMELESS SERVICES DEPARTMENT WAS CREATED AND I WAS REALLY CRITICAL ABOUT A LOT OF IT. 
          IT'S COME FROM A PLACE OF A LOT OF SUPPORT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OPPORTUNITY HOME SUCCEEDS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR HOMELESSNESS SERVICES SUCCEED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY SUCCEED BECAUSE THEY'RE SO IMPACTFUL TO OUR COMMUNITY. HAVING A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE, QUALITY PLACE TO LIVE IN, AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE HERE IN OUR CITY IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. 
          I WANT TO EXTEND THAT AS MUCH AS WE MAY DIG INTO THIS, I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO, KAUR, MYSELF, EVERYONE ON THIS COMMITTEE ARE COMMITTED TO PUBLIC HOUSING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING YOU ALL EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. 
          MAKE SURE WE GET INTO THE DETAILS HERE AND HOW TO BETTER SUPPORT YOU ALL AS 
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WELL SO WE CAN GET TO THAT SHARED GOAL THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          WE WILL HAVE THE CONVERSATION ON THE SPECIFIC SPECIAL HOUSING SUPPLY TASK FORCE AND A LOT OF THOSE THINGS I'M SEEING OPPORTUNITY HOME DO, SENIOR HOUSING, UNDERSERVED YOUTH, VETERAN HOUSING, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. 
          MOST OFTEN THOSE PEOPLE LIVE IN PUBLIC HOUSING IN THE CITY. 
          IT'S NOT SEPARATE. IT ALL HAS TO COME TOGETHER. WITH THAT I WANTED TO ASK ONE LAST QUESTION THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE TO US OFFLINE. IT'S A LIST OF CAPITAL NEEDS FOR ALL THE PUBLIC HOUSING PROPERTIES, WHICH I KNOW YOU PROVIDED US IS A BIG NUMBER, BUT BROKEN DOWN BY EACH PROPERTY. WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE SO WE CAN GET A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING IF IT'S THE FULL STRUCTURE, WALLS, ET CETERA, ALL THOSE THINGS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THE NUMBER OF UNITS ON EACH ONE SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND THEN WHAT SOURCES OF FUNDING YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS AND WHAT ARE THE ONES THAT -- COULD WE HELP IDENTIFY AS WELL? THAT'S IT. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN KAUR. >> KAUR: THANK YOU. 
          REAL QUICK, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT SOME OF THE SPEAKERS BROUGHT UP TO I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO. 
          ONE OF THEM WAS THE REPAYMENT OPTION. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT 
          ABOUT THAT? >> YOU'RE SPEAKING OF THE REPAYMENT AGREEMENT? 
          >> KAUR: THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WE'D BE ABLE TO REPAY OVER TIME. 
          >> CORRECT. MOST HOUSING AUTHORITIES ACROSS THE NATION, TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF OPERATIONS, A REPAY AGREEMENT WAS SPECIFICALLY TIED TO A HOUSEHOLD WHOSE INCOME MAY HAVE CHANGED, LET'S SAY EIGHT MONTHS BEFORE THEIR ANNUAL RECERTIFICATION. BUT THEY DIDN'T LET THE OFFICE KNOW THAT THEIR INCOME INCREASED, SO TECHNICALLY THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO PAY MORE RENT FOR THE PREVIOUS EIGHT MONTHS. THAT DELTA OR THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THEY WERE PAYING AND WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING AND MOST HOUSING AUTHORITIES THAT BECOMES A REPAY AGREEMENT TO PAY THAT. 
          DURING COVID THE AGENCY ALLOWED REPAY AGREEMENTS TO GO INTO PLACE FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T PAY THEIR RENT AT ALL FOR WHATEVER COVID REASONS THERE ARE OR THAT THEY AT THE TIME. THOSE FAMILIES HAVE ACCRUED A LOT OF RECEIVABLES AND THEY OWE A LOT OF MONEY. YOU WILL HEAR SOME UP TO 3,000, UP TO $5,000. 
          WHAT THIS IS DOING IS TAKING US BACK TO THE NORMAL OPERATIONS IN THE REPAY AGREEMENT. IT WILL STILL BE IN PLACE SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE A RENT CALCULATION WASN'T -- I'M SORRY, AN INCOME WASN'T UPDATED, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS NOT PAYING RENT OR WHO HAS A HARDSHIP, THAT'S GOING TO FALL UNDER A DIFFERENT PORTION OF THE POLICY. 
          SO WHAT WE REALIZED IN THIS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS WE DIDN'T EXPLAIN THAT AS WELL. 
          WE HAVE ANOTHER PORTION OF OUR POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR FAMILIES WHO ARE RUNNING INTO HARDSHIPS TO TALK TO THE MANAGEMENT OFFICE AND SAY I'VE RUN INTO SOME 
          EXCESS MEDICAL BILLS OR I'VE RUN INTO THIS -- >> KAUR: AND HOW LONG IS THAT? HOW MUCH SUPPORT CAN SOMEONE GET IF THEY'RE IN HARDSHIP? 
          LIKE HOW MANY MONTHS DO YOU GUYS -- >> IT'S GOING TO BE ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AND IT'S USUALLY A PLAN THAT WILL WORK OUT. 
          BUT WHAT I WANTED TO ADD BACK TO THE REPAY AGREEMENT, ALL EXISTING REPAY AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE -- ARE STILL IN PLAYWRIGHT NOW OR STILL ACTIVE, THOSE STAY IN PLACE. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CANCEL THOSE OR STOP THOSE. 
          >> KAUR: OKAY. I WOULD URGE YOU GUYS SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO BE GETTING MORE MONEY THROUGH THE RAD PROCESS THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT HARDSHIP POLICY AND TRY TO PUT SOME MORE BONES ON IT, THAT WAY FOLKS CAN SEE THAT THEY DO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND RATHER THAN JUST SAYING HEY, WE'LL LOOK ON AT IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, MAYBE THERE IS AN ACTUAL POLICY THAT YOU CAN PUT TOGETHER THAT SHOWS FOLKS, OKAY, I CAN FOR SEVERAL MONTHS OUT GET SOME SUPPORT, WORK ON A REPAYMENT 
          PLAN, ET CETERA. >> RIGHT. WE WILL HAVE IT IN PLACE. 
          WE HAVE IT IN PLACE NOW SO -- >> KAUR: BUT WHAT YOU TOLD ME IS IT'S A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. SO -- 
          >> FOR THE LENGTH OF TIME, CORRECT. >> KAUR: RIGHT. 
          I'M SAYING PUT SOME STRUCTURE ON A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON WHAT FOLKS ARE GETTING OR AT LEAST SHOW HISTORICAL WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. 
          THE SECOND THING IS WHAT ABOUT THE MIXED STATUS FAMILIES? 
          >> CAN I TAKE A STEP BACK ON THE REPAY AGREEMENT COMMENT? I WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE THING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS IN THE LEASE, YOU KNOW, THAT IF A FAMILY OR A HOUSEHOLD LOSES INCOME THAT THEY SHOULD NOTIFY THE OFFICE AND THEIR RENT WILL BE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY. SO IF SOMEBODY IS NOT REPAYING THEIR RENT OR NOT PAYING THEIR RENT AND THEY HAVE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE OFFICE BECAUSE THEY LOST THEIR JOB, THEY SHOULD BE DOING THAT BECAUSE THEN THEY CAN BECOME A ZERO RENTER OR THEIR PORTION OF RENT WILL BE ADJUSTED. 
          SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THAT IS STILL IN OUR POLICIES AS 
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AN OPTION AS WELL. JUST WANTED TO MILK SURE THAT WAS OUT THERE AS WELL. 
          >> KAUR: AND THE MIXED STATUS FAMILIES? >> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A 
          PROPOSED RULE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >> KAUR: WHAT IS THAT -- 
          IS THAT IF ONE IS UNDOCUMENTED? >> THE MIXED STATUS RULE IS 
          ONE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT -- >> KAUR: WOULD THAT APPLY 
          TO EVERYTHING, ALL OF YOUR UNITS OR JUST THE -- >> ALL FEDERALLY FUNDED 
          UNITS WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THAT RULE. >> KAUR: OKAY. 
          SO THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO REITERATE MY POINT AGAIN, RIGHT, RATHER THAN SAYING OUR INTENT IS NOT TO -- BECAUSE INTENT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE ARE COMMITTING NOT TO. I THINK IF WE CHANGED OUR LANGUAGE TO WE ARE COMMITTING NOT TO REMOVING ANY PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS, THERE WOULD BE MORE -- 
          >> WE'RE COMMITTED TO NOT REMOVING ANY PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S VERY CLEAR. WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH EVERY HOUSEHOLD AND EVERY FAMILY IN OUR UNIT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO THAT THEY GET THE BEST OPTION IN ANY TYPE OF TEMPORARY RELOCATION AND THAT WE MAINTAIN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM ON AN ONGOING BASIS TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME TO COME BACK OR EVEN WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS 
          LIKE. >> KAUR: THANK YOU. THANKS, CHAIR. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. I'LL BE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW WE'RE APPROACHING THE THIRD HOUR OF THIS COMMITTEE, WHICH WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO DO. SO CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE 10, PLEASE. I'M NOT USED TO BEING IN THE SAME BUCKET AS DISTRICT 9, SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY WE ARE BOTH ZERO DOLLARS ON THIS SLIDE? 
          >> THERE IS NO PUBLIC HOUSING IN YOUR DISTRICT. >> AND I FIGURED THAT, BUT I WANTED TO BRING THAT OUT BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DISTRICTS 1, 2, 3, 5 AND PARTS OF 7, THAT'S WHERE ALL THE PUBLIC HOUSING IS IN THIS CITY IS A SPECIFIC PART OF TOWN. I WANT TO ADD THE CONTEXT TO WHAT THESE FOLKS ARE SEEING, NOT NECESSARILY OPPORTUNITY HOME ACTIONS OVER THE YEARS. WHAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING AND IT'S A VERY CLASSIC EXAMPLE, THE SOAP FACTORY, WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. 
          IT'S TIED TO THE RELOCATION CONCERN THAT I HAVE TO. WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT AND THE LAST COUNCIL WAS DISCUSSING IT, OPPORTUNITY HOME WAS FOR FOLKS WHO QUALIFY, WHERE CAN WE PUT THEM, THERE WAS A LIST OF UNITS, SOME OF THE UNITS AVAILABLE WERE IN DISTRICT 4. THAT COMPLEX NO LONGER EXISTS IN DISTRICT 4. AND SOMEBODY I KNOW WHO HAS A FRIEND THAT USED TO LIVE THERE, THEY HAD TO MOVE TO THE MEDICAL CENTER BECAUSE OF THAT CLOSURE. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT -- IF SOMEBODY ACTUALLY DID TAKE THAT UNIT FROM SOAP FACTORY, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT SOAP FACTORY AND WOULD HAVE BEEN AT D4 FOR MAYBE ONE OR TWO 
          YEARS AND 15 SOMEWHERE >> MUNGIA: I THINK ABOUT WHAT ALEJANDRA SAID, RIGHT, WHAT IF THEY HAD KIDS IN THAT SITUATION. SO AS SOMEBODY WHO HAD TO RELOCATE MANY TIMES GROWING UP, I LIVED IN 11 DIFFERENT PLACES IN 20 YEARS OF MY LIFE, AND WE HAD TO CHASE THE LOW RENTS SOMETIMES GROWING UP. LUCKILY MY MOTHER WAS ABLE TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL THAT I WAS GOING TO, THAT I COULD WALK THERE OR THAT I COULD TAKE A BUS THERE THROUGH THE SCHOOL'S PROGRAM, RIGHT? NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE THAT SITUATION. AND SO I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DISPLACING FOLKS, EVEN IF IT'S FOR THE RIGHT REASONS, EVEN IF IT'S TO MAKE THEIR LIVING CONDITIONS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, TO GIVE THEM THE BEST QUALITY OF LIFE, THAT IS A BIG FEAR FOR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE TO MOVE INTO AN AREA THEY NO LONGER KNOW, THEY DON'T KNOW THE BUS ROUTES THERE, THEY DON'T KNOW THE SCHOOLS THERE. THEY MAY BE AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY OR THEIR RELATIVES, THEY MAY BE AWAY FROM COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO WHO THEY WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU GET A LOT OF THE ANGST ABOUT THAT. AND SO REAL QUICK, HOW MANY UNITS ARE PUBLIC 
          HOUSING COMPARED TO THE REST OF YOUR INVENTORY? >> WE HAVE 6,000 PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS, AND APPROXIMATELY 2500 AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY UNITS AND 5,000 AFFORDABLE HOUSING PARTNERSHIPS. 
          OH, I'M SORRY, IT'S 5,000 AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITIES. 
          >> MUNGIA: I WAS GOING TO SAY, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE LOW. 
          BUT EITHER WAY, PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF YOUR 
          INVENTORY? >> CORRECT. >> MUNGIA: YES. 
          OKAY. ANOTHER BIG ISSUE WHY PEOPLE MIGHT BE WORRIED IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME TYPE OF CONVERSION THAT WE MIGHT BE CHANGING THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR HOLDINGS, SO TO SPEAK. 
          BUT I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT THE MTP, IF YOU COULD MAKE SURE -- I KNOW IT'S 
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A DRAFT, BUT IF YOU CAN PUT THE DISTRICT LABEL ON EVERY PROPERTY THAT YOU HAVE THERE, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS. 
          AND FOR RELOCATION, IS THERE ANY PROHIBITIONS FOR ASSISTANCE ON RELOCATION? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT A RESIDENT 
          TO RELOCATE, GET HELP TO RELOCATE? >> NO. 
          NO. IF THEY'RE A PART OF AN IMPACTED COMMUNITY, THEY 
          ARE AUTOMATICALLY GIVEN RELOCATION ASSISTANCE. >> MUNGIA: EVEN IF THEY'RE A RENTAL SITUATION, IF THEY'RE BEHIND ON PAYMENTS OR 
          THINGS OF THAT NATURE? >> YES, YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> MUNGIA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. AND I NOTICE ON THERE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I GUESS, CLOSED ON MARCH 20TH, SO I DON'T THINK YOU HAD IT ON THE DRAFT, BUT DO YOU HAVE A SUMMARY OF ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS? 
          >> YES, WE DO. >> MUNGIA: OKAY. WILL IT BE ONLINE AT SOME 
          POINT -- >> YES, IT WILL BE GOING TO OUR BOARD, AND SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE BOARD PACKET THAT IS GOING TO BE RELEASED ON 
          APRIL 1ST. >> MUNGIA: OKAY. GOT YOU. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN KAUR IS RIGHT -- AUDIO] -- D.C. AND THEY REITERATED TO US THAT A LOT OF CITIES ARE GOING THIS WAY, AND THAT'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S GOAL, RIGHT? AND SO WITH AN ADMINISTRATION THAT MANY OF US ARE VERY WEARY OF, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THEIR GOAL IN TRYING TO MAKE THIS CONVERSION 
          HAPPEN? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MICHAEL REYES, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF OPPORTUNITY HOME. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, COUNCILMAN. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN HAPPENED SINCE THE MID 1990S. STARTED WITH THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, ENDORSED BY BARACK OBAMA. THEY WANT TO MOVE OUT OF PUBLIC HOUSING. 
          THEY WANT TO PRY V PRIVATIZE PUBLIC HOUSING. 
          OUR GOAL IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS STILL MAINTAINS PUBLICLY OWNED. AS A FORMER PUBLIC HOUSING RESIDENT MYSELF, FOUR GENERATIONS OF PUBLIC HOUSING FAMILY, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED THAT HOUSING STABILITY PROVIDED ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A HOMEOWNER, TO GET EDUCATED AND NOW SERVE THIS ORGANIZATION IN A FULL CIRCLE TO HAVE BEEN BORN INTO IT, NOW TO LEAD IT. 
          I WANT OUR KIDS -- HALF OF OUR 85,000 FAMILIES ARE CHILDREN. 
          THEY DESERVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN STABLE HOUSING SO WE WILL DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT STAYS PUBLICLY OWNED AND PUBLIC FORMER GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS PERSON TO COME UP HERE. 
          MICHAEL ALSO GREW UP IN DISTRICT FOUR. HOPING TO GET YOU BACK AT SOME POINT. THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER, THAT REALLY ILLUSTRATES WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENT TO STATE THAT THESE WILL NOT BE TURNED OVER, RIGHT? WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MANAGE THEM, TO BE PUBLICLY OWNED. AND I THINK COUNCILWOMAN KAUR'S RIGHT, IF WE CONTINUE TO JOINTLY REITERATE THAT POINT, IF WE CONTINUE TO MEET WITH EACH OTHER AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          AGAIN, NOT JUST WITH Y'ALL, ANY PARTNER OUT THERE, WE CANNOT READ ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR DISTRICT IN THE NEWSPAPER. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT AHEAD OF TIME FOR ANY OF US. 
          DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? >> THANK YOU. 
          WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS LAST WEEK AND I THANK COUNCILMAN GALVAN AND KAUR AND VIAGRAN FOR JOINING US. AND IN THAT CONVERSATION, WE TALKED ABOUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE IN LOCKSTEP WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WE'RE HAND IN HAND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. I THINK THE ADVISORY COUNCIL WALKED AWAY THAT THIS IS A WORKING GROUP, WE HAVE LOCKSTEP, EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT'S MOVING FORWARD. YOU SHOULD NOT  BE HEARING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN A NEWSPAPER OR TV SPOT. 
          WE NEED TO COMMIT DOING THIS TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE IT'S TRANSPARENT. 
          >> MUNGIA: ONE LAST QUESTION ON THE LEASE, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP A LOT, PEOPLE CAN STILL CAMPAIGN, RIGHT, AND KNOCK ON DOORS FOR THOSE PROPERTIES? JUST IN GENERAL. NOT FOR US, BUT IN GENERAL, IS THAT ALLOWABLE? IS THAT ALLOWABLE? 
          >> IT'S ALLOWABLE. >> MUNGIA: OKAY. I BRING THAT UP, NOT FOR ME, RIGHT, BECAUSE COUNCILWOMAN MARIA SALBA MADE A COMMENT RECENTLY THAT WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE, SHE WENT TO PUBLIC HOUSING UNIT AND TALKED TO NONE OTHER THAN LUCIA CLARK'S MOTHER, AND SYD SAID IF YOU WANT TO WIN, YOU NEED TO ORGANIZE IN THE PUBLIC HOUSING COMMUNITY. 
          THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME SOMEBODY RUNNING FOR OFFICE WANTED TO KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FREEDOM IS THERE NOT FOR ANY ONE OF US IN PARTICULAR, BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH MANAGEMENT, NOT GET PERMISSION FROM MANAGEMENT TO COMPLAIN AGAINST MANAGEMENT. READY TO WORK IS OUT THERE, WE MAKE OUR DEPARTMENTS BLOCK WALKS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THAT'S THERE, SO CONSTANT REITERATION OF THAT IS HELPFUL WITH US. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A LONG ROAD AHEAD OF US, A LOT MORE TO DO AND WE 
          APPRECIATE YOUR TIME BEING HERE TODAY. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR 
          PARTNERSHIP AS WELL. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
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OKAY. WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICH IS A BRIEFING ON THE SPECIAL HOUSING SUPPLY TASK FORCE REPORT. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE OUR VERY OWN -- ONE OF OUR TRICHAIRS, VERONICA TO 
          PRESENT. >> GARCIA: THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          VERONICA GARCIA, DIRECTOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT. SO TODAY IT'S A BRIEFING. 
          WE CAME LAST MONTH AND DID AN OVERVIEW OF OUR INITIAL FINDINGS, WE SHARED THE FINAL REPORT WITH YOU LAST WEEK, AND SO WE'LL BE GOING OVER THOSE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY. I WAS JOINED EARLIER BY MY FELLOW TRICHAIR PETE ALANIZ WITH THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST BUT HE DID HAVE TO STEP AWAY FOR ANOTHER MEETING, AND THEN MARK CARMONA, THE DIRECTOR FOR OR HOMELESS SERVICES DEPARTMENT ALSO SERVED AS THE TRICHAIR, BUT HE WAS OUT OF THE OFFICE TODAY. MAYOR JONES, BACK IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, REQUESTED THAT THIS COMMITTEE CREATE A TASK FORCE SPECIFICALLY TO GENERATE INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO INCREASE HOUSING FOR FOUR SPECIFIC POPULATIONS: SPECIFICALLY, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, PARTI PARTICULARLY THOSE WITH VISION AND HEARING IMPAIRMENTS, VETERANS, LBG TQ YOUTH. WE LAUNCHED LAST YEAR AND WE AGREED TO UTILIZE OUR HOUSING COMMISSION AND A WORKING GROUP THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY AIMED AT HELPING MORE PEOPLE BETTER ACCESS HOUSING WITH A HOUSING VOUCHER THAT WAS OUR RENTAL ENGAGEMENT AND ASSISTANCE TO CONNECT WITH HOUSING. SO MANY THANKS FOR ENABLING US TO HAVE MANY DISCUSSIONS TO HELP. WE ENGAGED -- HAD PANEL DISCUSSIONS WITH HOUSING COMMISSIONERS IN EACH OF THESE FOUR CATEGORIES, WE DID SIGHT VISITS AND MET DIRECTLY WITH STAKE -- NONPROFITS THAT SERVE EACH OF THESE GROUPS.  WE DID A DIGITAL SURVEY TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCES AND HAD OVER 350 RESPONSES, AND WE LOOKED AT CASE STUDIES AND RESEARCH TO LOOK AT SUCCESSFUL MODELS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          AND THESE INITIAL FINDINGS WERE SHARED AT LAST MONTH'S MEETINGS, SO I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT QUICKLY, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN MUCH OF THIS ALREADY, AND WE ALSO SHARED THE FINDINGS LAST WEEK WITH THE HOUSING COMMISSION. AGAIN, THE PRIMARY GOAL OF THE REPORT IS TO IDENTIFY WAYS OF HOW WE INCREASE THE HOUSING SUPPLY. 
          THIS SHOWS WE CREATED GOALS FOR EACH OF THE FOUR CATEGORIES AND OVERALL WITH THE FINDINGS, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE NEW GOAL AT 3,250 HOMES ACROSS ALL THE CATEGORIES. WE WILL LOOK AT REFINING THIS NUMBER AS PART OF OUR SHIP REFRESH LATER THIS SUMMER. 
          FOR THE FIRST GROUP, VETERANS SPECIFICALLY WITH HOUSING VOUCHERS, OUR GOAL IS 250 HOMES. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY, THERE ARE 237 VETERANS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT LAST YEAR. WE KNOW THAT USING OUR EXISTING RESOURCES AND CAPACITY, WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN MEET THE NEED IN THIS PARTICULAR CATEGORY. AGAIN, A LOT OF OUR HOUSING DEVELOPERS DO BUILD COMMUNITIES SPECIFICALLY FOR VETERANS, AND IN THIS CATEGORY, A LOT OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOCUSED ON MAKING VETERANS AWARE WHEN NEW COMMUNITIES COME ONLINE AND MAKING SURE THAT THESE COMMUNITIES ARE LOCATED IN A PLACE THAT VETERANS WANT TO LIVE SO THEY CAN ACCESS SERVICES. FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, OUR GOAL IS 500 HOMES. THIS IS LOWER THAN OUR NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          IN SAN ANTONIO, WE HAVE 900 HOUSEHOLDS WITH A HEARING DISABILITY AND 1300 WITH A VISION DISABILITY THAT SPEND MORE THAN HALF OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING. BY UTILIZING, AGAIN, OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, LOOKING AT THOSE WHO UTILIZE THE STATE-FUNDED TAX CREDITS, THAT PROGRAM REQUIRES 2% OF THE UNITS THAT THOSE TAX CREDITS FUND TO BE EQUIPPED FOR HEARING AND VISION DISABILITIES. IF WE LOOK AT DOUBLING THAT REQUIREMENT FOR PROJECTS THAT ALSO EARN LOCAL INCENTIVES, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WE COULD REACH THIS GOAL IN THREE TO FIVE YEARS. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT OLDER ADULTS, OUR GOAL IS SET AT 2400 HOMES. 
          THIS IS A UNIQUE CATEGORY BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A SHIP GOAL OF 1200 HOMES FOR OLDER ADULTS SPECIFICALLY. WE'VE ALREADY MET THAT GOAL JUST IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE SHIP, SO, AGAIN, WORKING WITH OUR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, USING OUR EXISTING TOOLS THAT WE HAVE, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN MEET 2400 HOMES. IT'S, AGAIN, FOCUSING ON WHERE THE HOMES -- WHAT PARTNERS ARE WE USING, WHAT SERVICES ARE WE PROVIDING IN THOSE COMMUNITIES. THE LAST CATEGORY, LGBTQ PLUS YOUTH, OUR GOAL IS 100 HOMES, AND OUR LAST ESTIMATES, WE ESTIMATED ABOUT 372 LGBTQ PLUS 
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YOUTH HAVE EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS IN THE LAST YEAR. 
          SO OUR GOAL IN THIS CATEGORY IS LESS, WE KNOW, THAN THE NEED. 
          BUT WE REALLY HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE NONPROFITS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THIS PARTICULAR POPULATION. WE KNOW THAT THESE YOUTH NEED A LOT OF SUPPORT TO FIND HOUSING AND TO STAY HOUSED, AND BECAUSE OF THE INTENSE NEED FOR CASE MANAGEMENT AND ASSISTANCE, WE'VE ALIGNED THE GOAL TO SOMETHING THAT'S REALISTICALLY ACHIEVABLE WITH THE TIME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO, AGAIN, I'LL DO A BROAD OVERVIEW FOR EACH OF THESE FOUR. FOR VETERANS WITH HOUSING VOUCHERS, AGAIN, WITH ALL OF OUR OUTREACH, WE HEARD A LOT OF COMMON THEMES, WHICH IS GETTING A VOUCHER IS CHALLENGING. THIS PARTICULAR GROUP, ANYONE WHO'S TRYING TO GET A HOUSING VOUCHER FINDS CHALLENGES. THERE'S A WAITLIST, IT CAN TAKE A LONG TIME TO RECEIVE A VOUCHER. FOR VETERANS SPECIFICALLY WHO ARE HOMELESS OR AT HIGH RISK AT BEING HOMELESS, THEY COULD QUALIFY FOR A SPECIAL VOUCHER FROM THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION. 
          WE CALL THAT A VASH VOUCHER, VETERANS AFFAIRS WITH SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. 
          THEY GET A LOT OF CASE MANAGING SUPPORT WITH THAT. 
          THEY'RE LIMITED, THEY'RE IN LINE WITH HOW MANY VA-FUNDED CASE MANAGERS ARE THERE TO PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT, SO THE SUPPLY OF THESE VOUCHERS IS IN SHORT SUPPLY. FINDING A PLACE THAT ACCEPTS THE VOUCHER CAN BE A CHALLENGE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY WANT A HOME LOCATED NEAR THE MEDICAL CENTER OR ALONG TRANSIT SO THEY CAN ACCESS ALL OF THE SERVICES VETERANS MAY NEED. SO IN THE NEXT YEAR, WE WANT TO LOOK AT, AGAIN, REALLY MAKING SURE THAT VETERANS WITH VOUCHERS ARE AWARE OF WHERE THESE HOUSING COMMUNITIES ARE WHEN THEY COME ONLINE, WHAT SERVICES ARE OFFERED, HOW CAN WE WORK WITH THE VA TO INCREASE THAT CASE MANAGEMENT SUPPORT, HOW CAN WE MAKE THESE HOUSING MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST IN NEED. FOR KEY ACTION ITEMS THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY ADDRESSED PREVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT OUTREACH AND EDUCATION SPECIFICALLY TO PROPERTY MANAGERS. 
          WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH A LOT OF OUR PARTNERS ON HOW WE REACH THEM, HOW WE ENSURE WE'RE WORKING, WHICH IS THE REACH WORKING GROUP, WHICH DOES INCLUDE OUR HOUSING AUTHORITIES, IT INCLUDES HOUSING STAKEHOLDERS WHO WORK WITH LOTS OF LANDLORDS, SPECIFICALLY THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, THE SAN ANTONIO BOARD OF REALTORS AND A FEW OTHERS, HOW CAN WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR EXISTING WORKING GROUP MEMBERS ON MATERIALS AND OUTREACH GEARED SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS VETERANS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE FOCUS ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO THE MEDICAL CENTER OR TRANSIT. ANOTHER THING WE WANT TO LOOK AT -- AGAIN, WE KNOW THAT THE SUPPLY OF THESE VOUCHERS IS VERY LIMITED, SO HOW CAN WE, WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON NEW HOUSING COMMUNITIES THAT VOA FOCUS ON -- FOCUS ON SUPPORTING VETERANS, VALOR HILL, RIGHT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO NEWLY OPENED IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF THAT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SPACE ON SITE FOR THE CASE MANAGERS, THEY HAVE THE VA ON SITE AND THEY HAVE SAM, WHO SUPPORTS THE VETERANS, SO ALL OF THAT, WITH SPACE THERE, REALLY HELPS CREATE EFFICIENCIES IN SERVING THE VETERANS WHO LIVE THERE. FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, WE KNOW THAT FINDING A HOME WITHIN BUDGET CAN BE A CHALLENGE, BECAUSE MANY OF THEM LIVE ON FIXED INCOMES. AND ESPECIALLY FINDING A HOME THAT HAS ALL THE ACCESSIBILITY MODIFICATIONS THAT THEY NEED. IT CAN BE EXPENSIVE FOR DEVELOPERS TO BUILD NEW PROPERTIES, AND IT CAN BE EXPENSIVE FOR RENTERS TO MODIFY A PROPERTY THAT'S TO MEET THEIR NEEDS SPECIFICALLY. SO WE WANT -- AND MANY TIMES THE LEASING MATERIALS ARE NOT USABLE FOR BLIND AND DEAF APPLICANTS.  SO THE NEXT YEAR WE REALLY WANT TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS, MAYBE SPECIFICALLY CREATING MATERIALS IN ASL AND BRAILLE SO THEY'RE USABLE AND UNDERSTANDABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE, AGAIN, FOCUSING ON HOUSING THAT'S MORE ACCESSIBLE, WHERE IS IT, DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES, AND THEN BRINGING IN PARTNERS THAT CAN HELP FUND THIS WORK. 
          TALK ABOUT A KEY COUPLE ITEMS THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY DISCUSSED WE WANT TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN SPECIFICALLY UPDATE OUR UNIVERSAL DESIGN ORDINANCE. WE HAVE THIS, IT WAS PASSED BACK IN 2002, AND IT DOES APPLY TO CITY INCENTIVIZED PROPERTIES AND IT AS WE EVALUATE OUR ANNUAL POLICY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, WE LOOK AT WHAT TYPE OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN CRITERIA INCORPORATING, BUT IT'S ALL KIND OF PRIORITY BASED. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE HOUSING COMMISSIONS REMOVING BARRIER SUBCOMMITTEE ON WHAT ITEMS COULD BE CONSIDERED ADDITIONALLY FOR CITY INCENT VIESESSED PRODUCTS AND WHAT OTHER MODIFICATIONS COULD MAKE SENSE CITYWIDE. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CREATING OVERLY BURDEN THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE IT COST PROHIBITIVE, BUT WHAT ARE SOME MIDDLE GROUND THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE. ALSO HOW WE CAN INCREASE THE PROPORTION OF UNITS EQUIPPED SPECIFICALLY FOR HEARING AND VISION DISABILITY IN OUR 
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INCENTIVIZED PROPERTIES. FOR OLDER ADULTS, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE A LOT OF TIMES WORKING THROUGH CHALLENGES THAT ARE RELATED TO ADJUSTING TO CHANGES BOTH IN INCOME AND LIFESTYLE, SOMETIMES THEY'RE DOWNSIZING, SOMETIMES THEY NEED NEW ACCESSIBILITY FEATURES QUICKLY, THEY MAY HAVE NEW MOBILITY CHALLENGES, MAY HAVE HEALTH ISSUES, NEED A RAMP SUDDENLY, SHOWER BARS, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND SO SOMETIMES MODIFYING THEIR OWN HOME CAN BE EXPENSIVE OR FINDING A NEW, ACCESSIBLE HOME WITHIN THEIR BUDGET CAN BE A CHALLENGE. SO WE WANT TO FOCUS ON CREATING MORE ACCESSIBLE HOUSING WITH THE ON-SITE AMENITIES AND SUPPORTS SPECIFICALLY FOR OLDER ADULTS, AND BRINGING IN AGAIN MORE PARTNERS, NEW PARTNERS THAT CAN HELP FUND THESE EFFORTS. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SCHOOL DISTRICT TODAY, THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION IN THIS CATEGORY, HOW CAN WE PARTNER WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS MAYBE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THOSE NOW VACANT PROPERTIES, MAYBE THEY COULD BE TURNED INTO COMMUNITIES SPECIFICALLY FOR OLDER ADULT TS.  WE KNOW MANY OF THEM ARE TAKING CARE OF GRANDKIDS WHO GO TO SCHOOL. ALL THOSE KINDS OF SPECIFIC PARTNERSHIPS TO HELP FUND THE HOUSING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE. WE WANT TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT TWO KEY ITEMS FOR THIS GROUP, THAT WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT, SUCH AS ENCOURAGING HOME SHARING, ESPECIALLY WITH OLDER ADULTS WITH EMPTY BEDROOMS. THIS IS ALREADY A SHIP STRATEGY WHICH BENEFITS OLDER ADULTS, INITIATES NEW INCOME, NEW COMPANION SHOP,SHIP. 
          WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING THIS WITH THE AREA FOUNDATION, WITH FOCUS GROUPS JUST TO KIND OF CREATE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT COULD BE SOME BARRIERS TO PEOPLE WHO USE HOME SHARING AND WHAT PROGRAMS CAN WE CREATE AROUND THAT. WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN ENGAGE OUR MANAGED CARE ORGANIZATIONS AS POTENTIAL FUNDERS, THINK OF THESE AS LIKE YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES. 
          OTHER CITIES AND STATES HAVE DONE THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND THEY FIND THAT THEY CAN BE GREAT PARTNERS IN CREATING NEW HOUSING OR EVEN FUNDING MODIFICATIONS IN EXISTING HOUSING, YOU THINK OF A NEWLY DISCHARGED PATIENT, THE HEALTHCARE ORGANIZATION WANTS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A SAFE SPACE TO GO TO AND RECOVER. FOR OUR LGBTQ PLUS YOUTH, THEY HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN FINDING HOUSING, MAINLY FINDING THE HOUSING AND THEN STAYING HOUSED, HAVING THAT SUPPORT SO THEY CAN LEARN TO LIVE INDEPENDENTLY. MANY OF THEM ARE NAVIGATING LIFE WITHOUT FAMILY SUPPORT, SUCH AS YOUTH WHO ARE AGING OUT OF FOSTER CARE, AND IN SAN ANTONIO, WE HAVE A LIMITED AVAILABILITY OF CONGREGATE COMMUNITY-STYLE OPTIONS THAT SUPPORT ALL TYPES OF LIFESTYLES. WE WANT TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN HELP OUR LGBTQ PLUS YOUTH SECURE AND KEEP MAINTAINING THE HOUSING THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO FIND, HOW DO WE REMOVE BARRIERS TO CREATING NEW SHARED HOUSING MODELS, AND HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH OUR ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE SPECIFICALLY SERVING THE YOUTH. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, TWO KEY ITEMS FOR THIS CATEGORY COULD BE SUPPORTING MASTER LEASING TO HELP PROVIDE ACCESS TO HOUSING QUICKLY, REDUCING BARRIERS, YOU KNOW, SIGNING LEASE, AND COLOCATING YOUTH WITH THEIR PEERS. 
          MASTER LEASING IS WHEN AN ORGANIZATION, MANY TIMES A NONPROFIT, TAKES THE MASTER LEASE FOR SEVERAL PROPERTIES AND THEN THEY SUBLEASE THOSE TO AN AFFORDABLE RENT TO YOUTH. SAMMINISTRIES HAS DONE THIS LOCALLY AND HAS HAD SOME POSITIVE SUCCESS. WE ALSO WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AND REMOVE BARRIERS TO SHARED CONGREGATE LIVING IN NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY ALONG TRANSIT LINES. AGAIN, WE ARE RELYING ON OUR REMOVING BARRIERS SUBCOMMITTEE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THOSE CODE-RELATED BARRIERS AND WHAT KIND OF POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS CAN WE EMPLOY. ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT IS OUR CURRENT CODE ALLOWS UP TO SIX UNITS IN A COMMUNITY HOME SITUATION, AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY MUST REZONE TO HAVE UP TO 16 BEDS. THE REZONING PROCESS CAN BE A BARRIER DUE TO THE COST, THE TIME, UNDERSTANDING HOW TO REZONE. AND SO BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND EVALUATING THESE BARRIERS CAN HELP US REMOVE THESE REGULATORY HURDLES DOWN THE ROAD. THE NEXT STEP OF OUR WORK, AGAIN, YOU HAVE A COPY OF OUR FULL REPORT, OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN GOALS AND THESE HOUSING SUPPLY TASK FORCE GOALS WILL BE ADOPTED IN OUR SHIP. THE TIMELINE FOR THAT IS TO GO TO COUNCIL WITH FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS IN AUGUST OF THIS SUMMER, AS PART OF OUR SHIP REFRESH, WHICH ARE HAVING ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS, GETTING MORE FEEDBACK. SO WE'LL BE INCORPORATING THESE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS AND GETTING -- CONTINUE TO GET MORE FEEDBACK ON OUR EFFORTS AND SEE WHAT OTHER ADJUSTMENTS WE MAY NEED TO MAKE. 
          THE FULL REPORT FROM THE TASK FORCE WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ONLINE. 
          AND IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO REALLY THANK EVERYONE, ONCE MORE, ALL THE HOUSING COMMISSIONERS, THE MANY, MANY NONPROFIT 
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STAKEHOLDERS. WE HAD A FEW EARLIER HERE, I KNOW A FEW FOLKS HAD TO LEAVE, BUT THANKSGIVING AGAIN TO ALL OF -- THANKS AGAIN TO ALL OF THEM WHO HOST THE SPACE AND ALLOW US TO HAVE THIS FINAL REPORT. 
          . >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU SO MUCH, VERONICA, AND I DO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO PETE AND TO MARK WHO WERE INSTRUMENTAL. 
          I COULDN'T THINK OF ANY BETTER TRICHAIRS THAN THE THREE OF Y'ALL TO LEAD THIS EFFORT, AND YOU'VE GOT A GREAT TEAM WITHIN NHD WHO IS WORKING ON THIS 24/7 I'M SURE. I DID SEE JUSTIN HOLLY HERE IN THE BACK, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A SHOUTOUT FOR HELPING. I KNOW SOME OTHER FOLKS WERE INVOLVED IN THIS, AND YOU CAN READ ABOUT THEM IN PAGE 6. 
          I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE MAYOR PUT THIS TOGETHER, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF WE HAVE A BRAND-NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, THAT ANYBODY IN THESE CATEGORIES COULD QUALIFY FOR, THESE FOLKS SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED MAY BE SOME OF THE LAST FOLKS TO GET THERE BECAUSE OF SPECIFIC NEEDS AND CHALLENGES. NOT JUST ON THEIR OWN, BUT SOCIETAL ONES AS WELL. AND SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO FIND FOLKS THAT WE ARE NOT ENGAGING ENOUGH WITH, LEARNING ABOUT THE CHALLENGES AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S HOUSING FOR EVERYBODY IN SAN ANTONIO. AND, AGAIN, WHAT I SAID LAST TIME WAS THE IDEA IS NOT JUST TO HAVE HOUSING JUST FOR ANY SPECIFIC CATEGORY OF FOLKS, IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BUILD A COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY. AND SO I THINK THAT'S VERY SPECIAL AND VERY IMPORTANT, AND SO I DO LOOK FORWARD TO PUTTING THIS INTO THE SHIP REFRESH, WHICH HOPEFULLY WOULD CONCLUDE IN AUGUST -- AUDIO] -- I JUST THANK EVERYBODY FOR DOING THIS, I THINK IT'S WELL ORGANIZED AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT HAS A SPECIFIC INTEREST THAT CAN JUST KIND OF GO TO THAT PAGE AND SAY, OKAY, I REALLY AM INTERESTED IN VETERAN HOUSING, GO TO PAGE 8, SEE ALL THOSE DETAILS, AND SOME OF THEM ARE ORGANIZED INTO ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES, COUNCIL ORDINANCES, STATE AND FEDERAL LEGISLATION ALSO. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU BROKE ALL THAT DOWN. SO I'LL START WITH COUNCIL DISCUSSION. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? 
          COUNCILMAN GALVAN? YOU DON'T HAVE TO. >> GALVAN: JUST WANT TO SAY -- ECHO COUNCILMAN MUNGIA'S POINT ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE WORK YOU PUT INTO ALL OF THIS. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE. 
          IT'S INCREDIBLE PACKET THAT YOU'VE SHARED WITH US. 
          IT WAS VERY -- I ALWAYS ENJOY GOING THROUGH A VERY DETAILED PACKET MYSELF, SO I ENJOYED LOOKING THROUGH ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIONS, FUNDING POBLGHTDS, THE DIRECTIONS, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING LAID OUT THAT WAY BECAUSE IT GIVES US THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO AND ADVOCATE VERSUS A GENERAL, IT'S A DIRECT, WE NEED THIS THING DONE, AND ONCE WE DO THAT, WE CAN GET THIS MANY HOUSING UNITS THERE. 
          I APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH. I DON'T HAVE ANY BIG QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. >> GARCIA: THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO? >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, VERONICA, FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR THE TRICHAIRS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR THE WORK YOU ALL DO, SOMETIMES I DON'T NEED THE BRIEFING WHEN Y'ALL SUBMIT A REQUEST BECAUSE I ALREADY WATCHED Y'ALL PRESENT TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION, YOU ALWAYS DO A GREAT JOB. IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT, AGAIN, RIGHT, IT'S REITERATING WHAT SOME OF THE WORK THAT -- REAFFIRMING, RATHER, SOME OF THE WORK AND THE MISSION WITHIN THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST, PARTICULARLY WITH ADOPTING UNIVERSAL DESIGN WITH MANY OF THE SPECIFIC GROUPS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE FOR FEEDBACK, ONE OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WAS MORE ACCOMMODATIONS. SO I KNOW THAT'S IN THE QUEUE FOR NEXT STEPS AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET THERE SOONER THAN LATER IN TERMS OF ADOPTING OR AMENDING, RATHER, THE UDC CODE TO ADOPT THE KELSEY STANDARDS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I MENTIONED EARLIER GOING AND MEETING WITH THE OTHER HOUSING LEADERS AND ADVOCATES IN SEATTLE, WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT THERE'S THIS -- FOR SOME CITIES, RIGHT, THE CONCEPT OF CONVERTING OFFICE SPACES AND/OR SCHOOLS AND WHAT THEY'RE RUNNING INTO IS THE PLUMBING. IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND MANY OF THESE AREN'T SET UP TO CREATE NEW UNITS, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, OFFICE SPACE AND SCHOOLS CAN BE USED TO ADDRESS THE HOME-SHARING MODEL, RIGHT, WHICH MANY, AGAIN, THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND FOLKS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE HAVE SLAIRED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THEY WOULD LIKE MORE SUPPORT ON, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH ZONING AND/OR CODE. 
          SO PLEASED TO SEE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE HERE TODAY. 
          AND JUST ALWAYS GET EXCITED WHEN YOU GIVE PRESENTATIONS AND UPDATES ON COMMITTEES AND THE SHIP, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S ONE OF THE FEW POLICY DOCUMENTS THAT WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT? WE DON'T SAY OH, GREAT, RECOMMENDATIONS. THANKS. 
          NO, WE PULL, WE CREATE CCRS, WE AGENDIZE ITEMS AND IT REALLY KEEPS THE SHIP MOVING FORWARD. JUST REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK OF YOU AND YOUR TEAM. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND EAGER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD 
          WITH THEM. COUNCILWOMAN GONZALES? >> GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. 
          I REALLY WANTED TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO SAID. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE TIME YOU DID, PUT THIS TOGETHER. 
          AGAIN, I THINK IT'S ALONG THE LINES WITH OUR SHIP STRATEGY, OUR REACH 
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STEERING COMMITTEE, THE REMOVING BARRIERS COMMITTEE, THEY'VE ALL DONE THIS WORK AND CONTINUE TO DO IT, AND SO THIS HELPS US AND WE WANT TO EXPAND IT LIKE WE ARE NOW. THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND REALLY, TOO, WE HAVE A VA HOSPITAL IN DISTRICT EIGHT AND LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT HOSPITAL AS WELL, AND SO MAKING SURE THAT VETERANS ARE SUCCESSFULLY USING -- UTILIZING THEIR VOUCHERS NEAR VA HEALTHCARE CENTERS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK. BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS ON THIS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO 
          THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU. >> GARCIA: THANK YOU. 
          >> MUNGIA: TO REITERATE, I DO BELIEVE THAT SHIP IS ONE OF THE CROWN JEWELS OF THE CITY'S POLICIES. IT'S A HALLMARK, IT'S ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I THINK WE'VE EVER DONE, AND THIS JUST ADDS TO IT AND STRENGTHENS IT. 
          SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE WILL HAVE A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION ON UDC HOPEFULLY SOON, AND HOIVEL UDC -- -- OBVIOUSLY, THE ADU, UNIVERSAL DESIGN WILL BE TOP OF MINE. THANK YOU, VERONICA, NO 
          QUESTIONS ON HOW YOU DID IT. >> GARCIA: THANK YOU. 
          >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THE TIME IS NOW -- OH, JUSTINA, YES, PLEASE. 
          SORRY. >> TATE: I JUST WANTED TO RECAP FROM THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ON OPPORTUNITY HOME, WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO PROVIDE A FOLLOW-UP MEMO TO THE COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL REITERATE SOME OF THE RESPONSES THAT THEY PROVIDED TO CONCERNS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD BROUGHT UP, AS WELL AS PROVIDING THE INFORMATION THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD ASKED FOR AS WELL. SO WE WILL GET THAT TO YOU. 
          >> MUNGIA: AWESOME. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THE TIME IS NOW 4:54 P.M. AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
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