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          GOT IT. 
          WE'RE READY TO BEGIN. 
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          WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE ROLL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CAB . 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRO HERE. 
          UH, CHAIRMAN ELIAS HERE FORM, UH, COUNCILWOMAN EO HDA IS IN COURT ACROSS THE STREET, AND SHE'LL BE SHOWING UP AS SOON AS, UH, THE JUDGE RELEASES HER TO, UH, TO COME ACROSS THE STREET. 
          JEFF, UH, GOOD MORNING. 
          UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONVENING US. 
          UH, I UNDERSTAND, UH, THAT THE FIRST THING WE'RE 
          [1. 19-8473 Approval of the minutes from the May 8, 2019 meeting of the
Intergovernmental Relations Committee.]
GONNA DO IS, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR MAY 8TH MEETING. 
          IF, UH, EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          I MOVE SECOND. 
          GOOD. 
          WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES. 
          AYE, HEARING? NO OPPOSITION. 
          THAT PASSES. 
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UM, THE SECOND THING IS, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, SOMEBODY SIGNED UP, UH, FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. 
          IS THAT RIGHT, JEFF? YES. 
          I THINK THE CLERK HAS THAT CORRECT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, THREE PEOPLE. 
          SO, UH, OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE ALAN MONTE. 
          WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT AGENDA. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS MORNING. 
          UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S A PRIVILEGE I DO NOT TAKE FOR GRANTED. 
          UM, UH, I, UH, JUST, UH, WANNA SAY A FEW WORDS. 
          I KNOW YOU HAVE A, A FULL AGENDA. 
          SO I JUST WANNA SAY A FEW WORDS IN SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION TO, UM, UH, UH, PROTECT THE EDWARDS AQUIFER BY, UH, MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR PIPELINES, UH, UH, OIL AND NATURAL GAS PIPELINES TO CROSS THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE, UH, THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE, AND THE AQUIFER, AND THE, UH, UH, UH, THE EDWARDS AQUIFER. 
          UM, AND THE REASON THAT, UH, THAT I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS IS I'VE A SAN ANTONIO NATIVE AND HAVE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE AND REALLY DO WANT TO PROTECT THE AQUIFER. 
          UM, THERE WAS RECENTLY A PIPELINE THAT ATTEMPTED, UH, AN, UH, OIL PIPELINE THAT ATTEMPTED TO CROSS THE, UH, EDWARDS AQUIFER REGION. 
          AND IT WAS ESSENTIALLY FOUGHT OFF BY A GROUP OF LANDOWNERS, UH, WHO, UH, THAT WERE WEALTHY AND POWERFUL. 
          AND, UH, WE CAN'T HOPE THAT THAT'S ALL ALWAYS GONNA HAPPEN. 
          UM, PART OF THE REASON THAT THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THEM TO AT LEAST RELOCATE THE PIPELINE WAS THAT TWO OF THE PROPERTIES APPARENTLY WERE PROTECTED, UH, UNDER THE PROP ONE FUNDING. 
          UH, THEY HAD CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON THE PROPERTIES, AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT IT WOULD BE THE PIPELINE'S EMINENT DOMAIN AGAINST THE CITY'S EMINENT DOMAIN, AND THAT COULD LEAD TO A LONG LEGAL FIGHT. 
          AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THINK CAUSED THEM TO RELOCATE THE PIPELINE. 
          SO THIS WAS, I THINK, ONE OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FROM THE PROTECTIONS PUT IN PLACE BY PROP ONE. 
          HOWEVER, IT REALLY ILLUSTRATES THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT AND CONTINUE TO DO THINGS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I I STRONGLY, UH, SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE SPEAKING ABOUT TODAY. 
          I'M INTERESTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, ET CETERA. 
          UM, MORE IMPORTANTLY THOUGH, THE PROP ONE, THE CONTINUED PROP ONE FUNDING IS THREATENED BY, UH, UH, OTHER PLANS IN PLACE TO, TO FUND THE TRANSPORTATION SEGMENT OF THE CITY'S PLANS USING THOSE SAME MONIES. 
          THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THOSE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE AND THAT WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND THOSE PROTECTIONS. 
          SO, UH, UH, I, UH, SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MONTE, MR. GREG HARMON FOR A MOMENT. 
          THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. 
          UM, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THIS ITEM BEING ADVANCED. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY I PIERRE ALSO, UH, LIKE ALLEN TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT. 
          UH, IT MAKES EMINENT SENSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A EXTREMELY VULNERABLE AQUIFER AND AT ONE TIME OUR SOLE SOURCE AQUIFER, UH, TO SUPPORT THIS. 
          UM, BUT IT'S ALSO, UH, AN INTERESTING, UH, MOMENT TO LOOK AND CONSIDER, UH, PIPELINES THEMSELVES, OIL, GAS PIPELINES, UH, WHO, UH, HAVE BEEN EMPOWERED BY THE RAILROAD COMMISSION, UH, WITH ALMOST UNCHALLENGED, UNRIVALED AUTHORITY TO TAKE PEOPLE'S LAND, TO SEIZE IT BY EMINENT DOMAIN. 
          I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO, IF WE'RE ABLE TO PUSH BACK FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR NEIGHBORS ON, IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO SO. 
          UH, THE SIERRA CLUB CERTAINLY SUPPORTS GOOD JOBS, STEADY JOBS, UH, GETTING AWAY FROM THE BOOM AND BUST ACTUALLY, OF OIL AND GAS. 
          UH, AND IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, JUST REFLECTING, UH, WHEN THE PIPELINE ASSOCIATION AND OTHERS CREATE, UH, THEIR PETITIONS, OR THEY COME AND LOBBY YOU TO CONSIDER, UH, THEIR FACTS AND, AND, AND REACH OUT IF YOU NEED, UH, UM, UH, SOME FACT CHECKING. 
          UH, RECENTLY DID THAT WITH THE TEXAS PUBLIC POLICY FOUNDATION ON THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF BAD INFORMATION BEING SPREAD AROUND SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND IN THIS CASE, IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE PIPELINES AT ONE TIME, ENERGY 
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SECURITY, WE ALL SUPPORT. 
          BUT THIS IS ALL EXPORT. 
          NOW. 
          WE'RE DRIVING IT TO LOUISIANA AND HOUSTON TO SHIP IT OUT, POINTS AROUND THE WORLD. 
          UH, AND THE SUBSIDIES FOR OIL AND GAS ARE, UH, ENORMOUS. 
          UH, I M F, THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND ESTIMATES 649 BILLION IN THE US, UH, OVER JUST A FEW YEARS. 
          AND THE WORLD IS 5.2 TRILLION. 
          SO IF THEY COME AND THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT SOLAR OR WIND OR BATTERIES, UH, WE CAN SET THE RECORD STATE REAL FAST ON THAT. 
          UH, AGAIN, WE AT THE SIERRA CLUB DO WANT JUST, AND GOOD AND LONG-TERM JOBS IN A THRIVING ECONOMY, AND BELIEVE THAT CLEAN ENERGY IS A BETTER WAY, UH, TO PROCEED. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS UP. 
          I HOPE WE CAN ADVANCE IT INTO A DEEPER LEVEL. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN OUR THIRD SPEAKER, UM, SOMETHING PEACE. 
          SOMETHING PEACE. 
          LAST NAME. 
          PEACE. 
          IT'S ANNISE. 
          OH, ANNISE. 
          HI. 
          NICE TO SEE YOU. 
          SORRY, MY HANDWRITING'S REALLY BAD. 
          YEAH, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE GREATER EDWARDS AQUIFER ALLIANCE. 
          WE HAVE 52 MEMBER GROUPS THAT ARE SPREAD OUT THROUGH THE WHOLE EDWARDS AQUIFER REGION. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE FOLKS UP IN HAYES COUNTY AND TRAVIS COUNTY CAME TO ME ABOUT THE PERMIAN PIPELINE, IT'S A NATURAL GAS PIPELINE, I THOUGHT, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT HAP, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT LEAKS, THE GAS GOES UP, IT'S NOT GONNA HURT THE AQUIFER. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, SINCE THEN, I'VE BEEN TOTALLY CONVINCED THAT WE DO NOT WANT THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT OVER OUR AQUIFER. 
          SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO WHOEVER, UH, UH, INITIATED THIS RESOLUTION. 
          THE CITIES OF AUSTIN AND ALL THE CITIES IN THE PAST OF THE PERMIAN HIGHWAY PIPELINE HAVE, UH, HAVE, HAVE PASSED SIMILAR RESOLUTIONS TO PROHIBIT THIS PRACTICE. 
          UM, IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO FIGHT THESE PROJECTS. 
          I MEAN, I KIND OF THANK GOD FOR THE GOOD OLD BOY NETWORK WITH THE ENTERPRISE THAT THEY JUST PUT IT TO BED REALLY QUICKLY. 
          AND I USUALLY DON'T DO THAT. 
          BUT, UM, YEAH, THE PROSPECT OF, OF HAVING THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, GOING OVER OUR AQUIFER IS, UH, IT WOULD REALLY IMPER OUR DRINKING WATER SUPPLIES. 
          AND YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT SAW WELLS FOR THE EDWARDS WELLS ARE NOT PRETREATED. 
          SO WERE THERE AN ACCIDENT TO HAPPEN? IT WOULD, UH, BE PRETTY DISASTROUS FOR SAW WATER SUPPLIES, YOU KNOW, IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF PUMPING THAT WATER OUTTA THE AQUIFER. 
          WE PUT A LITTLE CHLORINE IN IT, LITTLE FLUORIDE. 
          IT'S GOOD TO GO WHERE WE TOO HAVE TO, UH, CHANGE THAT AND PRETREAT THE WATER. 
          IT WOULD COST BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PROPHYLACTIC RESOLUTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, BECAUSE 
          [3. 19-8472 Briefing and possible action on a resolution to protect the Edwards
Aquifer from the potential negative impacts of oil and gas pipelines
[Jeff Coyle, Director, Government & Public Affairs]]
THERE'S A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          UNLESS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS, WE'LL TAKE THAT ONE UP FIRST. 
          UH, AND JEFF, YOU'RE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THAT NOW? YES. 
          AND IN THE INTEREST OF OUR, UH, BROADCAST QUALITY, I'LL STEP UP TO THE PODIUM, IF THAT'S ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, BEFORE I GET INTO THE SLIDES, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UH, ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          I'VE HAD THAT QUESTION POSED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST 24 HOURS. 
          SO, UM, A FEW MONTHS BACK, THERE WAS A, UH, A NEWS ARTICLE THAT WE'LL GET INTO ABOUT A, UH, CRUDE OIL PIPELINE, UH, BEING PROPOSED TO RUN THROUGH THE EDWARDS REGION. 
          UH, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL WAS AMONG SEVERAL WHO REACHED OUT TO ME AND ASKED ME, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THIS? DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY AUTHORITY, UH, IN THIS MATTER AT ALL? THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO. 
          UH, BUT WE STARTED A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMPANY THAT WAS PROPOSING THAT PIPELINE AND, UH, NOT THROUGH OUR EFFORTS, BUT, UH, A MONTH OR SO LATER, IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE, HAD DECIDED TO A, AVOID THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, THAT THEY, THEIR NEW ROUTE GOES AROUND IT. 
          UH, FOLLOWING THAT, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE REACHED OUT TO US AND SAID, UH, THIS IS ONE PIPELINE. 
          THERE WILL BE OTHERS. 
          AND, UH, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE REQUESTED A RESOLUTION, NOT AN ORDINANCE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT REGULATORY AUTHORITY UNDER STATE LAW, BUT A RESOLUTION, UH, TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD. 
          AND WE RECOMMENDED THAT IT COME TO THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT INVOLVES, UH, POTENTIALLY SOME STATE INTERGOVERNMENTAL WORK. 
          UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE, UH, HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          SO, AS I MENTIONED, SEPTEMBER 25TH, THE VAR REPORT WROTE AN ARTICLE ABOUT A COMPANY OUT OF HOUSTON CALLED ENTERPRISE PRODUCTS PARTNERS, UH, PROPOSING A 30 INCH CRUDE OIL PIPELINE THAT WOULD CROSS, UH, MULTIPLE SECTIONS OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, MULTIPLE, UM, UH, ZONES OF THE AQUIFER. 
          UH, AND IT WOULD RUN ESSENTIALLY CRUDE OIL FROM, UM, THE PERMIAN BASIN, UH, UP IN WEST TEXAS, UH, DOWN TO SOUTHEAST TEXAS IN THE HOUSTON AREA, AND THEIR DISTRIBUTION NETWORK, UH, FOLLOWING THE MAYOR'S 
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REQUEST, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT PIPELINE IN A SECOND. 
          UM, THAT, THAT WE BRING A RESOLUTION FORWARD. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO RECOMMENDING THAT IT COME TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR AN INITIAL DISCUSSION HERE TODAY, WE ALSO STARTED REACHING OUT TO STAKEHOLDERS ON ALL SIDES OF THE ISSUE. 
          SO, ANNALISA PEACE, UH, FROM THE GREATER EDWARDS AQUIFER ALLIANCE WAS ONE OF THE GROUPS WE REACHED OUT TO THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY. 
          AND JULIA CARILLO IS HERE, SHE DOES IN HER GOVERNMENTAL WORK FOR THEM. 
          UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN PASSED A SIMILAR RESOLUTION PREVIOUSLY ABOUT A DIFFERENT PIPELINE, THE PERMIAN HIGHWAY THAT ANNALISA MENTIONED. 
          UH, C P S ENERGY HAS NATURAL GAS LINES OVER THE AQUIFER TODAY. 
          SO WE'VE STARTED A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. 
          WE REACHED OUT TO NEW STAR ENERGY, TO THE TEXAS PIPELINE ASSOCIATION, TO THE RAILROAD COMMISSION, WHICH IS THE, UH, STATE AGENCY THAT REGULATES OIL AND GAS. 
          UH, THE, UH, STEER GROUP, THE SOUTH TEXAS EAGLE FORD SHARE, UH, EAGLE FORD SHALE, UH, ADVOCATE, UH, ADVOCACY GROUP, AND THE TEXAS OIL AND GAS ASSOCIATION, UH, VIA STEER, UM, IN STATE LAW. 
          FIRST OF ALL, CITIES AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ARE, ARE LARGELY PREEMPTED FROM ANY REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER PIPELINES. 
          THAT IS THE AUTHORITY, UH, THE JURISDICTION OF THE TEXAS RAILROAD COMMISSION. 
          UH, HOWEVER, THEIR AUTHORITY IS LIMITED REALLY IN TWO AREAS, AND THAT IS TO PIPELINE SAFETY. 
          UH, THEY DO SIGNIFICANT INSPECTIONS AND OTHER, UH, UH, SAFETY ENFORCEMENT, UH, AND TO RATES THE PER MILE RATES THAT ARE CHARGED, UH, TO THE PIPELINE COMPANIES. 
          THEY DO NOT HAVE AUTHORITY OVER ROUTING. 
          THEY DON'T, UH, THEY DON'T PERMIT A PARTICULAR ROUTE. 
          UH, SO, SO WHERE A PIPELINE COMPANY DECIDES TO, UH, TO TRY TO LAY DOWN ITS PIPELINE IS REALLY NOT A DECISION FACING THE STATE. 
          THAT IS AN ISSUE OF THE PRIVATE COMPANY USING ITS AUTHORITY TO EITHER NEGOTIATE WITH LANDOWNERS AND OR CONDEMN PROPERTY THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN TO BE ABLE TO RUN THEIR, UH, LINES. 
          UM, YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, SO I WON'T, UM, I WON'T ATTEMPT TO TRY TO EXPLAIN ALL THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT. 
          BUT THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS THE IMPORTANT ONE. 
          THAT'S THE, UH, PROPOSED ENTERPRISE LINE, UH, THAT HAD INITIALLY BEEN PROPOSED ACROSS THE EDWARDS. 
          AND IF YOU JUXTAPOSE THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT WITH PICTURE ON THE LEFT, YOU SEE THAT IT, IT WOULD HAVE, UH, FROM THAT INITIAL ROUTE CROSSED OVER THE CONTRIBUTING ZONE, THE RECHARGE ZONE, AND THE ARTESIAN ZONE, I THINK THE ONLY SPOT IT WOULD'VE MISSED IS THE TRANSITION ZONE, THAT, THAT LITTLE YELLOW SECTION IN THE MIDDLE THERE. 
          UM, THIS IS PART OF A, A LARGER ISSUE GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTRY, WHICH IS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OF OIL AND GAS PIPELINES, UH, TO FACILITATE DOMESTIC PRODUCTION AND TRANSPORTATION OF, OF OIL AND GAS. 
          UH, AND IT HAS LED TO DISPUTES AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          THIS WAS A MAP WE PULLED, UH, FROM A REPORT THAT THAT SHOWS THE, THE HIGHLIGHTED LINES. 
          THERE ARE ALL PIPELINES THAT HAVE BEEN VERY LARGELY CONTROVERSIAL ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN OUR REGION IN TEXAS. 
          THAT YELLOW LINE, YOU SEE THERE IS NOT THE ENTERPRISE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THE PERMIAN HIGHWAY, UH, WHICH IS A NATURAL GAS LINE, UH, FROM A COMPANY CALLED KINDER MORGAN THAT IS PROPOSED TO RUN THROUGH THE NORTHERN PART OF THE, UH, THE EDWARDS AREA, A NORTH AND SOUTH OF AUSTIN COMING IN FROM THE WEST. 
          UM, AND THAT IS, HAS BEEN THE SOURCE OF LITIGATION AND, AND SIGNIFICANT CONTROVERSY, UM, BUT IT APPEARS TO BE MOVING FORWARD. 
          I'LL ALSO NOTE FOR YOU, EDUARDO, MY COLLEAGUE, WHO'S DONE A LOT OF THE RESEARCH HERE, POINTED THIS OUT FOR ME. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPACE BELOW WHERE THAT YELLOW LINE IS IN TEXAS, YOU SEE, UH, AN OPEN AREA RIGHT THERE WHERE THERE'S, THERE REALLY AREN'T LINES RUNNING THROUGH THERE. 
          THERE IS NOT A CRUDE OIL LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE EDWARDS TODAY, UH, IN ANY SIGNIFICANT FASHION. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE, UH, LARGELY A DEARTH OF ANY MAJOR LINES IN THAT, IN THAT SECTION. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS RESOLUTION IS THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE, NOT OPPOSITION TO PIPELINES PERIOD. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE INDUSTRY AND, AND THEY'VE BEEN MORE THAN WILLING TO PROVIDE INPUT. 
          IN FACT, OVERNIGHT, I RECEIVED SEVERAL DOZEN FORM LETTERS, UH, FROM, UH, WITH THE SUBJECT LINE. 
          I SUPPORT TEXAS PIPELINES, UH, FROM MANY PEOPLE, UM, URGING, UH, UH, THE, THE CITY NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE MOSTLY NATURAL GAS, UH, SUPPORTERS, I SHOULD SAY THE, THE LETTERS ALL REFERENCE THAT. 
          BUT THE RESPONSE FROM THE TEXAS PIPELINE ASSOCIATION WAS THAT, UM, PIPELINES ARE THE SAFER ALTERNATIVE FOR TRANSPORTING, UH, GAS AND, AND PETROLEUM PRODUCTS SAFER IN COMPARISON, UH, ARGUABLY TO TRUCKS TRANSPORTING ON ROADWAYS. 
          UH, THEY ALSO ARGUE THAT THE STATE HAS, UH, A VERY, UH, STRINGENT 
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REGULATORY STRUCTURE AROUND THE SAFETY OF PIPELINES THAT EXCEEDS WHAT THE FEDERAL STANDARDS ARE. 
          UH, AND THAT THEY ESSENTIALLY SELF-REGULATE, THAT THEY ARE CONSTANTLY, UH, RESEARCHING THE MOST ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY TO ENSURE THAT THEY, UH, PROTECT THE PUBLIC AND, AND THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, I FOUND ON THEIR WEBSITE, UH, TEXAS PIPELINE ASSOCIATION, THEY ALSO HAVE A SERIES OF BEST PRACTICES THAT THEY ENCOURAGE THEIR COMP MEMBER COMPANIES TO FOLLOW. 
          UH, AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO PULL BECAUSE OF WHAT I MENTIONED INITIALLY, THAT CITIES REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATORY AUTHORITY IN THIS ARENA. 
          UM, BUT WHAT THE ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDS IS THAT PIPELINE COMPANIES WORK WITH BOTH MUNICIPALITIES AND LANDOWNERS, UM, THAT THEY DISCUSS THE ROUTING WITH THEM, GIVE CITIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW PRELIMINARY ROUTES AND A TIMELINE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND, AND ULTIMATELY, UH, THAT, THAT THEIR MEMBER COMPANIES COMMIT TO NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH WITH PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE HAVING TO RESORT TO EMINENT DOMAIN. 
          SO, UH, THE ENTERPRISE, UM, UH, PIPELINE THAT MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, AND, UM, BRENDAN GIBBONS IS HERE FROM THE ARD REPORTER, WROTE THE INITIAL STORY. 
          UH, EVENTUALLY, UH, IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE GOING THROUGH THE EDWARDS, UH, THAT THEY WOULD BE ROUTING AROUND IT. 
          UH, AND THAT HAS LED THE QUESTION THAT YOU SEE THERE IN THE TEXAS OBSERVER IN THE RIGHT, WHICH IS, UH, THE LANDOWNER. 
          STOP THIS ONE. 
          WILL THEY BE SUCCESSFUL IN STOPPING THE NEXT ONE? SO, BEFORE YOU, FOR CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION TODAY IS A POTENTIAL RESOLUTION, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT THE EXACT LANGUAGE UP HERE SO YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS IN THE INITIAL DRAFT. 
          NUMBER ONE, UH, IT'S A STATEMENT THAT THE CITY WOULD OPPOSE OIL OR GAS PIPELINES, UH, WITH THE POTENTIAL TO IMPACT GROUNDWATER IN THE EDWARDS. 
          UH, SO THAT'S THE POSITION STATEMENT. 
          AND THEN IT CALLS ON STAFF TO STUDY LEGISLATIVE AND LEGAL AVENUES TO PROTECT LAND-OWNERS THEIR RIGHTS AND COMMUNITIES FROM A POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT OF OIL AND GAS PIPELINE. 
          SPECIFICALLY THREE THINGS TO CREATE A REGULATORY PROCESS FOR ROUTING THAT ENABLES LANDOWNERS AND COMMUNITIES TO PROVIDE INPUT IN THE PROCESS. 
          SO, IN THEORY, THAT WOULD BE A REGULATORY PROCESS THAT THE STATE, UH, WOULD, WOULD HAVE A, AN AUTHORITY THEY DON'T HAVE TODAY. 
          UM, AND IT REFERENCES THE SIMILAR PRACTICE FOLLOWED FOR ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION LINES THROUGH THE P U C. 
          UH, AND I WILL SAY, WHEN I MENTIONED THAT TO THE INDUSTRY YESTERDAY, THEIR RESPONSE WAS THE, UH, THE ELECTRIC, UH, PERMITTING, ROUTING PROCESS IS VERY SLOW AND CUMBERSOME TAKES A MINIMUM SIX MONTHS, AND THAT THERE ARE SEVEN TO 800 NEW OIL AND GAS WELLS BEING APPROVED EVERY MONTH IN THE STATE. 
          AND SO THEIR ARGUMENT ESSENTIALLY WAS IT WOULD CREATE A, A MASSIVE LOG JAM THAT WOULD AFFECT THE ABILITY OF THE INDUSTRY TO CONTINUE DEVELOPING OUT OIL AND GAS INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THE SECOND ITEM, THE RESOLUTION CALLS AND STAFF TO STUDY IS A REQUIREMENT, UH, THAT COMPANIES DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY FOR ANY INTERSTATE PIPELINES, WHICH THEN WOULD, OF COURSE, CREATE A PROCESS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES LIKE OUR CITY, UH, TO WEIGH IN ON THAT PROCESS. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD IS A REFERENCE TO, UM, GOVERNMENTAL OVERSIGHT OVER EMINENT DOMAIN. 
          AND THERE IS SIGNIFICANT, UH, OVERSIGHT TODAY, WELL, I SHOULDN'T, LET ME NOT CHARACTERIZE IT. 
          THERE IS AN OVERSIGHT PROCESS IN STATE LAW FOR EMINENT DOMAIN TODAY. 
          THIS IS A REFERENCE SPECIFICALLY TO LANDOWNERS WITH WHOM WE HAVE NEGOTIATED CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AS PART OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER PROTECTION PROGRAM. 
          UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE STATE HAVE MORE AUTHORITY OVER THESE COMPANIES WHEN THEY, UH, EXERCISE THEIR EMINENT DOMAIN POWER. 
          AND SO, UH, I SUSPECT THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT DIALOGUE. 
          I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THE BEST WE CAN, AND, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE STAND TODAY. 
          CHAIRMAN. 
          THANK YOU, JEFF. 
          UM, COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA HAS A, A QUESTION, JEFF. 
          THANK YOU, JEFF. 
          I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS. 
          UM, ON THE, THE FIRST ONE IN YOUR SUMMARY IN THE BRIEFING PACKAGE, YOU, UM, MENTIONED A REVIEW OF LEGISLATIVE AND LEGAL ACTIONS TO PROTECT THE AQUIFER FROM THE DANGERS OF OIL AND GAS PIPELINES. 
          IS THAT, AND LATER ON YOU REFERENCED SOMETHING ABOUT THE TEXAS RAILROAD COMMISSION IS A STATE AGENCY WITH RESPONSIBILITY TO REGULATE THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY AND THE STATE. 
          SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY EVEN HAS A ROLE IN THIS. 
          IS, IS WE DO NOT HAVE A REGULATORY ROLE. 
          UM, THE, THE STATE DOES, BUT THE STATE'S REGULATORY AUTHORITY IS LIMITED. 
          IT DOES NOT APPLY TO ROUTING. 
          UM, SO THE STATE CAN'T, UH, UH, APPROVE OR DENY A COMPANY'S PARTICULAR PROPOSED ROUTE. 
          AND SO WHAT THE REFERENCE IN 
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THE RESOLUTION WOULD IS TO US STUDYING THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF PARTICIPATING AND BEING ACTIVE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN SUPPORTING LEGISLATION THAT WOULD GIVE THAT AUTHORITY TO THE STATE. 
          THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS IN THE PAST THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL. 
          WE, AS A CITY HAVE NOT ENGAGED IN THAT ARENA. 
          WE HAVEN'T BEEN FACED WITH THE ISSUE. 
          UM, BUT THE, THE ITEM IN THE RESOLUTION WOULD THEN, UH, CALL FOR US AT THE STAFF LEVEL TO DO RESEARCH AND POTENTIALLY INCLUDE IN OUR PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM SUPPORT FOR MORE, UH, REGULATORY AUTHORITY AT THE STATE'S RAILROAD COMMISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE RESOLUTION ITSELF ON SECTION TWO, UM, ITEM TWO, IT TALKS ABOUT INCLUDING THE PARTICIPATION OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, UM, ON IMPACT STUDIES, ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDIES, WHO WOULD PAY FOR THESE STUDIES? TYPICALLY, THE COMPANIES DO. 
          A COMPANY, UH, THAT DOES A, UH, MAJOR HIGHWAY PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER FEDERAL LAW, HAS TO DO A SERIES OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND IMPACT ASSESSMENTS OR, UM, IMPACTS PRIOR TO THEIR PROJECTS. 
          SO, SO A COMPANY PROPOSING A PIPELINE WOULD, UH, IN THEORY, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. 
          WHAT IT WOULD DO THOUGH IS CREATE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITIES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACTS WOULD BE AND TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FORMALLY FOR THERE TO BE AN INPUT PROCESS. 
          RIGHT NOW, AS YOU SAW, IT'S A BEST PRACTICE OF THE ASSOCIATION TO SUGGEST THAT THEIR COMPANIES WORK WITH COMMUNITIES, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN, UH, THE PERMITTING PROCESS THAT ALLOWS THAT NOW. 
          SO CREATING A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY PERFORM SOME OF THOSE STUDIES ON THE FRONT END WOULD THEN GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LANDOWNERS AND COMMUNITIES TO WEIGH IN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I, THAT ACTUALLY REFERENCES MY NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE DELAY MIGHT BE IF WE DID, OR WE ENGAGED IN SOME SORT OF A, UM, A PROCESS, UM, BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU KIND OF HAD A FAST TURNAROUND, AND I HADN'T SEEN THIS ON OUR PARKING LOT FOR I G R ITEMS, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT IT CAME UP PRETTY QUICKLY, UM, BECAUSE I TRY TO DO SOME RESEARCH OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE COMING UP, AND I DIDN'T SEE THIS AT ALL, SO THIS KIND OF CAME OUT OF LEFT FIELD. 
          UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR SLIDE THREE, UM, REACHING OUT TO THE STAKEHOLDERS. 
          DID YOU, UM, ALREADY ALSO TALK TO THE TEXAS RAILROAD COMMISSION? I, UH, WE HAVE, UM, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I TOTALLY MISSED THAT BULLET POINT. 
          I, YES. 
          SEE IT NOW. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          WELL, THERE'S THAT, THERE'S THAT ANSWER. 
          UM, BUT I JUST, I'M CONCERNED, UH, THAT IT WAS A 24 HOUR TURNAROUND ON STAKEHOLDERS, AND WHAT IF WE DIDN'T GET ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS? AND I'M ALWAYS KIND OF A BIG PROPONENT FOR, UM, EVERYBODY BEING AT THE TABLE. 
          I APPRECIATE THE SIERRA CLUB FOR, FOR BEING HERE AND ALWAYS, UH, SUPPORTIVE. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN FROM OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL. 
          THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          I'LL JUST ADD WHAT I HAVE COMMUNICATED TO EACH OF THE FOLKS, AND SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE GONE BACK, UH, PRIOR TO THE LAST 24 HOURS OR SO, BUT WHAT I'VE COMMUNICATED TO EVERYONE WAS THAT, UH, THIS WAS THE FIRST DISCUSSION ON IT AT THE COMMITTEE HERE, AND THAT, UH, AND THAT WE WERE SEEKING AND SOLICITING INPUT FROM VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS ON THE ISSUE TO REFINE IT OR, OR WEIGH IN ON, UH, WHETHER THEY SUPPORT OR DISAGREE WITH IT. 
          SO THE, THE INTENT IS FOR THAT DISCUSSION TO CONTINUE BEYOND TODAY. 
          THANK YOU, JEFF. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JEFF. 
          COUNCILWOMAN BRAN. 
          SURE. 
          UM, I WANNA START WITH THAT POINT OF THE, THE STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH. 
          AND WHEN DID YOU ALL HAVE THEIR, SO WHEN YOU, UH, REACHED OUT TO THE STAKEHOLDERS, DID YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION ALREADY DRAFTED FOR THEM TO LOOK AT THAT? NO, IT'S BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT FOR SOME TIME, UH, WITHIN THE PAST SINCE THIS POSTED SINCE THE RESOLUTION, SINCE THE RESOLUTION POSTED, WHICH WAS FRIDAY, I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN SHARING IT THEN WITH VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE NOW GIVEN IT TO INDUSTRY AND C P S AND THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY AND SO FORTH. 
          SO I THINK WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS PRESENTATION, WE NEED TO SHOW THAT THAT'S THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE GIVEN RIGHT NOW. 
          SO YOU'RE ASKING US YOUR ACTION FOR TODAY. 
          RECOMMENDATION ACTION FOR US TODAY IS TO TAKE THIS TO FULL COUNSEL FOR, OR FOR MORE VETTING OR TO FULL COUNSEL, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION OF A RESO THIS RESOLUTION TO PASS, FOR THE RESOLUTION TO PASS, IT WOULD NEED TO GO MOVE FORWARD TO COUNSEL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT THAT IT'S, IT'S A NEW TOPIC TO THIS COMMITTEE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND WHICH IS WHY I WANTED TO EXPLAIN AT THE BEGINNING WHERE, HOW IT CAME ABOUT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE MAYOR'S OFFICE REQUESTED IT, AND, RIGHT. 
          AND WE THOUGHT IT BEST TO BE DISCUSSED HERE FIRST. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. 
          SO I'M, I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION TO SEE LIKE, OKAY, WHERE ARE THE PARAMETERS THAT WE CAN WORK IN? WHERE'S THE VOICE THAT WE CAN HAVE AND, UH, UTILIZE IT THE BEST AND MOST EFFECTIVE WAY POSSIBLE. 
          UM, I DO HAVE CONCERNS THOUGH, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RESOLUTION IN SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS THE STUDY WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND PUT IT POSSIBLY TO 
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MOVE FORWARD IN OUR LEDGE AGENDA AT THE NEXT LEDGE SESSION. 
          BEFORE WE DO THAT ON A RESOLUTION, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT COMPLETELY THIS RESOLUTION OR POTENTIAL, UM, LAWS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING OUR DELEGATION TO CARRY. 
          I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THEIR TEMPERATURE IS ON THIS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          AND SO WE CAN HAVE THIS VETTING WITH OUR, OUR DELEGATION, UH, OUR BEXAR COUNTY DELEGATION, UM, BEFORE WE PASS A RESOLUTION THAT SAYS, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. 
          I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE TEMPERATURE IS RIGHT HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND, AND I GET IT. 
          I MEAN, YES, THE LAST THING WE WANNA DO, WE'VE BEEN BUYING UP ALL THIS LAND ALONG, UH, IN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AREA AND THE RECHARGE ZONE. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE JUST A, A, A LINE PUSH RIGHT THROUGH IT AS WELL, WITHOUT ANY SAY FROM THE LANDOWNER OR FROM THE, UM, THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE PUT ALL THIS MONEY ONTO PURCHASED UP ALL THIS MONEY AS WELL. 
          I KNOW OUR CHAIRMAN HAS TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THESE CHEMICALS TO GO IN SEEPING INTO THE GROUND. 
          WE ALSO DON'T WANT POTENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, LEAKS OR ANYTHING THAT THESE PIPELINES CAN, CAN, UH, HAVE ON THIS AREA. 
          SO THAT'S MY FIRST POINT OF PAUSE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON THE LEDGE AGENDA IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT IN THE RESOLUTION, UM, TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE GOVERNMENTAL OVERSIGHT OVER EVIDENT DOMAIN DELEGATED. 
          I MEAN, I WANNA HAVE MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I ALSO DON'T WANNA OPEN UP A BOX THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, THAT WE MIGHT HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ON IF WE'RE GOING TO PITCH THAT AND PUT THAT IN OUR RESOLUTION. 
          SO, SURE. 
          THESE ARE JUST SOME THOUGHTS THAT I'M ABLE TO FORMULATE RIGHT NOW AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS. 
          SO, AND SOME QUESTIONS THAT I STILL WANNA HAVE CONVERSATION ON. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          AND I JUST, IF I COULD MAKE CLEAR ON THOSE, THOSE THREE SUB-BULLETS THERE FALL UNDER A STATEMENT OF DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY LEGISLATIVE AND LEGAL AVENUES. 
          SO IT WOULDN'T BE A, HERE'S OUR POSITION NEXT SESSION. 
          IT WOULD BE DIRECTING US TO GO DO FURTHER WORK. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY BEFORE WE PUT ANYTHING IN THE LEDGE PROGRAM, WE WOULD BE SHARING THAT LANGUAGE WITH YOU. 
          YOU ALL WOULD BE WEIGHING IN, WE WOULD BE INCORPORATING THE INPUT OF OUR DELEGATIONS. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP, ESSENTIALLY, UH, IF, IF, IF YOU ALL DECIDE THAT THIS IS AN AVENUE WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MM-HMM. 
          , AND I JUST WANNA ALSO NUMBER ONE, EVEN BEFORE IN, BEFORE WE EMBED IT IN THE RESOLUTION TO HAVE THAT TEMPERATURE TAKING FROM OUR DELEGATION. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ME. 
          STAND UP. 
           NAME, , WHAT'S HER NAME IS AS, UH, JEFF, THANK YOU, UH, FOR, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. 
          UM, I THINK JUST FROM HEARING THE COMMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, PHONE CALLS THAT WE GOT, UM, CLEARLY WE'RE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY TO GO TO COUNCIL YET, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT STARTING POINT FROM WHICH TO WORK. 
          SO THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR, FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. 
          UM, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          I DID CALL YOU AND, UH, PANIC ABOUT THE AQUIFER BEING RUINED IF A PIPELINE HAD LEAKED. 
          UM, I, I, UM, I'LL, I'LL SHARE A, A STORY. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER SEEN A CIVIL ACTION, UH, WHERE THE, NO. 
          WITH JOHN TRAVOLTA, WHERE THE GROUNDWATER WAS CONTAMINATED, AND YOU HAD LIKE A NUMBER OF, UH, CHILDREN DIE FROM LEUKEMIA. 
          SO I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH, WITH A GIRL WHOSE SISTER HAD DIED, AND THEN MY, UM, IN COLLEGE WHEN I STUDIED, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING, AND THEN ONE OF MY FIRST INTERNSHIPS WAS WORKING ON THE REMEDIATION OF THAT, UH, PARTICULAR AREA. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND IT'S LONG. 
          AND, UH, I JUST THINK KNOWING IN ADVANCE, UH, WHAT THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS MIGHT BE OF SOMETHING GOING THROUGH AN AQUIFER IS A GREAT, UH, IS JUST GREAT INFORMATION TO HAVE BEFORE, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS. 
          SO I, I PARTICULARLY, UH, APPRECIATE POINT NUMBER TWO, REQUIRING AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, UH, ASSESSMENT. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MIGHT BE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL TIME THAT THAT ADDS, BUT A NUMBER ONE, IT'S NOT CERTAIN RIGHT NOW, RIGHT. 
          THAT THAT'LL, THAT, UM, THAT THEY'LL TAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT OR EVENTUAL RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. 
          BUT, BUT TWO, I, I DO THINK IT'S WORTH IT. 
          UM, 80% OF THE DRINKING WATER THAT WE USE IN SAN ANTONIO IS MY UNDERSTANDING, COMES FROM THE EDWARDS AQUIFER. 
          WE JUST ASKED OUR RATE PAYERS AND OUR DEVELOPERS TO PAY OVER A BILLION DOLLARS, I THINK, FOR WATER SECURITY, UH, UH, BY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL WATER SOURCE. 
          SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO ENSURE THAT WE PROTECT THE MAJOR WATER SOURCE THAT WE ALREADY, UH, THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. 
          SO I'M GLAD WE'RE, UM, WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS. 
          UM, 
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THAT SAID, I ALSO JUST WANNA SAY ON, ON THE RECORD, UM, I'M NOT AGAINST ALL PIPELINES , I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO DO THEM CAREFULLY. 
          UH, IN PARTICULAR, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE TRANSITIONING US FROM OUR, YOU KNOW, FROM COAL TO EVENTUALLY WHAT WILL HOPEFULLY BE A HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE FUTURE. 
          UM, WITHOUT THOSE PIPELINES, WE CAN'T GET THERE. 
          AND WITHOUT THOSE PIPELINES, WE'RE GONNA BE LEAKING NATURAL GAS OUT OF OUR, UH, BASINS THE WAY WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, WHEN, UH, WHEN THERE'S FRACKING OR EXPLORATION GOING ON, THERE'S NOT A NATURAL GAS PIPELINE TO SEND THAT FUEL SOMEWHERE. 
          IT GOES UP INTO THE AIR, WHICH IS A WASTE OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. 
          AND ALSO, UM, REALLY BAD FOR, FOR CLIMATE CHANGE, JUST BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A, UM, A POTENT GREENHOUSE GAS, UM, POLLUTANT. 
          SO, SO, UM, I, I DON'T WANNA SEE US MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR PIPELINES, UH, TO, TO CONTINUE, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. 
          BUT I DO THINK AS THE REPRESENTATIVES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DEPENDENT ON THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, NOT JUST FOR DRINKING, BUT FOR OUR INDUSTRY AND OUR ECONOMY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, IT WOULD, UH, IT BEHOOVES US TO ENSURE THAT THAT WATER SOURCE IS PROTECTED. 
          UM, SO I, UH, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, AND EVENTUALLY HAVING, HAVING, UH, HAVING STAFF WORK WITH, UH, THE RAILROAD COMMISSION AND, AND OTHER ENTITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RAILROAD COMMISSION, THOSE ARE ELECTED POSITIONS. 
          THEY'RE THREE STATEWIDE, UH, POSITIONS. 
          AND, UH, YOU, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING WITH THE RAILROADS, BUT THEY, THEY DON'T. 
          IT'S KIND OF, UM, IT'S A HISTORICAL, UH, NAME. 
          AND IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT KIND OF LENDS ITSELF TO NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY DO. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I, WHEN I CONTACTED YOU AFTER BRENDAN'S STORY CAME OUT, UM, YOU BASICALLY TOLD ME ONLY THE RAILROAD COMMISSION HAS, UH, ANY AUTHORITY, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY OVER ROUTING. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, A QUESTION FOR YOU IS, EVEN THOUGH THEY DO HAVE REGULATORY AUTHORITY, DOES THAT, DO THOSE REGULATIONS DIFFER DEPENDING WHERE A PIPELINE IS GOING? SO IF IT'S GOING IN A RECHARGE ZONE, OR IF IT'S GOING IN AN AREA NOT ASSOCIATED WITH AN AQUIFER, ARE THERE DIFFERENT RULES? NOT UNDER THE RAILROAD COMMISSION. 
          I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT THOUGH. 
          'CAUSE I FAILED TO MENTION ONE OTHER PIECE ABOUT THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY STATE LAW. 
          SO T C E Q HAS THE SPECIFIC ABILITY AUTHORITY TO REGULATE ACTIVITIES WITH THE POTENTIAL TO POLLUTE THE EDWARDS AQUIFER. 
          UH, HOWEVER, UH, THERE'S AN EXEMPTION SPECIFICALLY FOR ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXPLORATION, DEVELOPMENT AND PRODUCTION OF OIL, GAS, OR GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES. 
          SO T C Q CAN REGULATE AND PROTECT THE EDWARDS, BUT NOT IN THE ARENA OF OIL AND GAS, IS THE SHORT STORY. 
          AND, AND JULIA CARILLO IS PROBABLY A, DEFINITELY A BETTER EXPERT THAN I AM. 
          IF, IF YOU, THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ASK HER FROM THE EDWARDS AUTHORITY, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING. 
          UH, JULIA, YOU'RE ALSO ON ONE OF OUR BOARDS RIGHT, ON THE PLANNING, ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          UM, IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SHARE WITH US, JULIA? HI, GOOD MORNING. 
          UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT COMMENT IS WHEN, UM, PIPELINES CROSS AREAS WHERE THERE, IN OUR CASE, THERE ARE FEDERAL ENDANGERED SPECIES WITHIN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, UM, AND PERHAPS US FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE. 
          BUT AT A, AT THE STATE LEVEL, THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS OR STEPS THAT THEY NEED TO UNDERTAKE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THEN TO ADD TO WHAT JEFF SAID, WE TOO, UH, HAVE NO REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER ANY OF THE, THE PIPELINE ACTIVITY THAT CROSSES OUR JURISDICTION. 
          UH, WE ARE FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION. 
          UH, WE FULLY SUPPORT, UH, STATE REGULATORY PROCESS AND, UM, WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          UH, THOSE ARE ALL MY, UH, COMMENTS FOR NOW. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN. 
          COUNCILWOMAN. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UM, GOING OVER TO SLIDE SEVEN AND THE, THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY RESPONSE, YOU KNOW, REED IS PRETTY VALID, IS A PRETTY VALID RESPONSE. 
          WHAT, UM, IF WE AS A CITY ARE, ARE LOOKING TO OPPOSE, UM, THE PIPELINES, WHAT'S OUR RESPONSE TO THEIR RESPONSE? IS THAT TOO EARLY TO ASK EITHER? I, I THINK IT IS, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I DON'T, I, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT YET. 
          I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRIED TO DO WITH THE LANGUAGE IN THE RESOLUTION IS VERY SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE PIPELINES THAT HAVE THE 
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POTENTIAL TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE DRINKING WATER SUPPLY. 
          SO IT ARGUABLY LEAVES OPEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A PIPELINE THAT FOLKS HAVE DEEMED AS ADEQUATELY PROTECTIVE OF THE AQUIFER SAFE, OR FOR WHATEVER OTHER REASON, UH, COULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE CREATED THAT A LITTLE BIT OF A, A SORT OF CONDITIONAL STATEMENT THERE, BUT, UM, BUT NO, I THINK, I THINK, UH, A LOT OF FOLKS, EVEN ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF THE ISSUE WOULD, WOULD PROBABLY ARGUE THAT HUNDREDS OF TRUCKS ARE POTENTIALLY A GREATER THREAT. 
          I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK, SO SHOOT ME A LOOK IF I AM. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PIPELINES ARE THE ALTERNATIVE TO THAT. 
          UM, AND, AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT, OBVIOUSLY, IN THE, IN THE SAFETY STANDARDS THAT THE RAILROAD COMMISSION DOES REGULATE AT THIS LEVEL. 
          SO I, I MEAN, I GUESS I JUST WOULD LIKE US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT TIGHTENED UP WHEN, WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AT FULL COUNSEL. 
          UM, AND THEN YOUR, YOUR LAST POINT, UM, PARDON MY LEGAL BRAIN HERE, BUT ON THE FOURTH  SLIDE, IT SAYS, UM, THAT THE PIPELINE AUTHORITY IS LIMITED TO SAFETY AND RATE REGULATION. 
          IS THERE SOME, CAN WE CIRCLE AROUND THAT WORD SAFETY TO, TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, UM, TO GET THIS, TO POSE IT OFFICIALLY THROUGH THAT, THAT ONE WORD, YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK SO. 
          IN, IN SOME OF MY CONVERSATIONS PREVIOUSLY WITH, UH, JULIA, SHE'S MENTIONED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF GROUPS, UH, SEEKING TO MEET WITH THE RAILROAD COMMISSION TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR SAFETY INSPECTION PROCESS. 
          UH, SO WE ABSOLUTELY COULD DO MORE RESEARCH IN THAT ARENA AND, AND BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU. 
          'CAUSE, UM, I'M ASSUMING IT MEANS SAFETY OF, OF HUMANS, BUT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE IT APPLY TO THE ENDANGERED SPECIES. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT'S BEING CREATIVE. 
          UM, THE LAST QUESTION MIGHT BE FOR, UM, MS. CARILLO, I'M NOT SURE, BUT, UH, IS THERE AN AREA OF THE AQUIFER THAT WE FEEL MIGHT BE MOST VULNERABLE? I'M NOT A SCIENTIST OR GEOGRAPHER GEOLOGIST, BUT, UM, CERTAINLY THE RECHARGE ZONE IS AN AREA THAT WE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          THAT'S THE AREA WHERE THERE, THERE ARE CRACKS AND FISSURES AT THE SURFACE, AND, UM, THAT'S LITERALLY WHERE THE WATER ENTERS THE AQUIFER. 
          SO OUR, UH, OUR OWN PROTECTIONS FOR, WITHIN OUR AGENCY, OUR RULES ARE DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE RECHARGE ZONE AREA. 
          UM, BUT I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY ACROSS ALL LEVELS OF THE AQUIFER, IF THERE IS AN ABANDONED, WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, WITHIN THE ARTESIAN ZONE OF THE AQUIFER, AND THERE WAS A PIPELINE THAT HAPPENED ACROSS THERE AND THERE WAS A LEAK, UM, THERE'S CONTAMINANTS THAT CAN ENTER THE AQUIFER AT THAT POINT AS WELL. 
          AND THEN IT'S, IT'S FOR GAME, IT CAN MIGRATE THROUGHOUT THE AQUIFER. 
          UM, BUT CERTAINLY WE WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT PROTECTING, UH, THE RECHARGE ZONE AS THAT IT IS STRAIGHT CONDUIT INTO OUR, UH, DRINKING WATER SUPPLY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THAT'S ALL CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, COUNCILWOMAN SANDON. 
          UM, IT'S, SO IN, IN TERMS OF, I GUESS ONE, ONE POINT I WANNA MAKE IS, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT OPPOSING PIPELINES. 
          WE JUST WANT THEM TO BE DEVELOPED CAREFULLY, UH, WHEREVER THEY ARE DEVELOPED. 
          UM, AND EVEN IF THEY END UP BEING OVER THE AQUIFER, I IMAGINE THAT THERE ARE SOME BEST PRACTICES OUT THERE IN TERMS OF MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED WHEN, UH, A PIPELINE IS BUILT OVER A SENSITIVE AREA. 
          IS THAT THE CASE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I THINK THE INDUSTRY WOULD ARGUE THAT, THAT IT'S IN THEIR INTEREST TO UTILIZE THE BEST TECHNOLOGIES SO FORTH. 
          AND, AND I'LL SAY THE STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE AT THE BEGINNING ABOUT NOT OPPOSING PIPELINES, BUT WANTING TO PROTECT THE WATER, UM, IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT I'VE GOTTEN THROUGH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS WE'VE TALKED TO, UH, ON THE OIL AND GAS SIDE, ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, EVERYBODY HAS SAID, WE WANT TO, WE GET IT. 
          WE WANT TO PROTECT THE SOLE SOURCE OF DRINKING WATER. 
          UM, WE ALSO NEED OIL AND GAS. 
          WE NEED ENERGY SUPPLY IN THIS. 
          SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FIND THAT SWEET SPOT THAT ALLOWS FOR BOTH PROTECT THE WATER AND ALLOW THE, UH, THE PUBLIC GOOD OF, OF ENERGY DISTRIBUTION TO CONTINUE TO OCCUR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, COUNCILWOMAN, THAT TRIGGERED ANOTHER QUESTION FOR ME. 
          I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE 10 AND THE FIRST POINT SAYS, UM, OPPOSE OIL OR GAS POP PIPELINES WITH THE POTENTIAL TO IMPACT GROUNDWATER OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER. 
          SO ARE WE JUST, ARE WE, I I UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT OPPOSING PIPELINES IN GENERAL OR LOOKING TO OPPOSE, UM, EVEN THIS SPECIFIC PIPELINE. 
          I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO OPPOSE THE PARTS OF THE PIPELINE THAT WILL IMPACT THE GROUNDWATER? NO, THAT, THAT IS A PRETTY BROAD STATEMENT AND PO IT REFERENCES OIL OR GAS PIPELINES, PERIOD. 
          IF, IF THIS COMMITTEE WANTED TO, WE COULD FURTHER NARROW THAT. 
          THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PIPELINES. 
          THE ENTERPRISE ONE WAS A CRUDE OIL LINE FOR WHICH THERE ARE NONE OVER THE AQUIFER TODAY TO OUR KNOWLEDGE. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE ADDED THAT CONDITIONAL LANGUAGE ABOUT, UH, THE 
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POTENTIAL TO IMPACT THE GROUNDWATER, UH, AS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AS BEING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE SOME, UM, JUDICIAL ASPECT TO IT WHERE WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER WE FEEL LIKE SOMETHING IS ADEQUATELY PROTECTIVE OR NOT. 
          BUT IT IS, IT IS A BROAD STATEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AS AS IT'S DRAFTED NOW. 
          NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU JEFF. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION? OH, CHAIR. 
          I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE REFER THIS TO A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND FOR US TO INVOLVE OUR DE DELEGATION AND ALL IMPACTED STAKEHOLDERS IN THE PROCESS. 
          A SECOND, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          YOU CAN SECOND. 
          UM, NO, I'M, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT COUNCILWOMAN HOBAR DIED. 
          GO FOR IT. 
          SECONDED IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          I, I'M OKAY WITH STAFF DOING SOME OF THE WORK, BUT IF YOU WANT A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT'S, I JUST WANT SOMEONE TO DO, SORRY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE SOMEBODY'S DOING SOME MORE RESEARCH. 
          THAT'S ALL I WANT. 
          SO IF IT'S A STAFF COMMITTEE, I'M, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF SOME OF US BEING INVOLVED IN IT THOUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN V GROM, I'M, I'M READING YOUR, YOUR BODY LANGUAGE LOOKS LIKE YOU WANNA JUMP IN AGAIN? NO, NO, I'M GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, SO I, UH, I, I, I WILL SAY, JEFF, THAT YOU, YOU POINTED OUT TWO THINGS. 
          UM, YOU USED THE WORDS HUNDREDS OF TRUCKS, UH, YOU KNOW, CROSSING THE, THE AQUIFER FULL OF, FULL OF OIL AND GAS. 
          AND, UM, THE FIRST THOUGHT I HAD WAS THAT THOMAS J. HENRY DOESN'T ADVERTISE FOR LEAKY PIPELINES. 
          RIGHT. 
          HE ADVERTISES, UH, TO SIGN UP CLIENTS FOR TRUCK ACCIDENTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND BECAUSE TRUCK ACCIDENTS ARE REALLY QUITE COMMON. 
          UM, AND I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT IN THOSE TERMS. AND SO, UM, AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, I, I PULLED UP HB 40, RIGHT? UM, AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER READ HB 40. 
          AND IT'S REALLY SHORT, UH, AS YOU KNOW, FOR AN OIL AND GAS STATUTE. 
          UH, AND IT SAYS IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT THE AUTHORITY OF A MUNICIPALITY IS VERY LIMITED AND PREEMPTED IN ALMOST EVERY WAY, EXCEPT FOR, UM, FACILITATING PRETTY MUCH IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, FACILITATING AND MAKING IT EASIER TO PUT A PIPELINE IN. 
          UM, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE, IT SAYS THAT, UM, AN OIL AND GAS OPERATION AND EVERYTHING, UH, ATTRIBUTED TO IT IS WITHIN THE EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION OF THE STATE. 
          UM, I, AND YET THERE IS A WORD COMMERCIALLY REASONABLE. 
          IT SAYS THAT MUNICIPALITIES CAN, UM, REGULATE AN OIL AND GAS OPERATION SO LONG AS, UM, WE DO SO, UM, IN A WAY THAT IS COMMERCIALLY REASONABLE. 
          AND SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT LANGUAGE MEANS. 
          UM, I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED THE HELP OF OUR ATTORNEYS ON IT. 
          I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU A VERY QUICK BACKGROUND ON HB 40. 
          THAT WAS ONE OF THE LOCAL CONTROL PREEMPTION BATTLES OF, OF PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS. 
          I THINK IT WAS THREE SESSIONS AGO. 
          IT WAS IN RESPONSE. 
          THIS WAS AROUND FRACKING, AND IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE CITY OF DENTON WHERE VOTERS ACTUALLY APPROVED A LOCAL ORDINANCE, UH, REGULATING, MAYBE EVEN PROHIBITING, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, UH, FRACKING IN THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          AND THE STATE CAME IN AND PREEMPTED THAT AND SAID, SORRY, CITIES MAY NOT, UH, REGULATE. 
          THIS IS THE JURISDICTION OF THE STATE. 
          YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THE LANGUAGE IS SIMPLE AND BROAD ENOUGH THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE, IT REALLY IS ABOUT MUNICIPAL, UH, THE PREEMPTION OF MUNICIPAL REGULATORY AUTHORITY AROUND OIL AND GAS ACTIVITIES, PERIOD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATUTE, IT SAYS, UM, THAT OIL AND GAS OPERATIONS MEANS ANY ACTIVITY HAVING TO DO WITH THE EXPLORATION, DEVELOPMENT, PRODUCTION, AND TRANSPORTATION OF OIL AND GAS, RIGHT? WHICH IS, UH, PIPELINES. 
          AND SO, UM, ANYWAY, I, I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE TIME YOU TOOK INTO THIS, BUT NOW I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE MOTION, UH, IN FRONT OF US. 
          AND SO, UM, WE'VE, I GUESS WE'VE GOT A FEW OPTIONS HERE, RIGHT? ONE IS, UM, TO ASK THAT THIS JUST BE SENT UP TO A FULL COUNSEL. 
          I'M NOT HEARING CONSENSUS HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, INSTRUCTING STAFF TO DO THAT. 
          UH, THE SECOND OPTION IS THAT STAFF, UH, YOU KNOW, STUDY THIS AND REALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN PARTICULAR, UH, LET'S NOT FORGET THE VERY IMPORTANT POINTS THAT COUNCILMAN VRAN BROUGHT UP. 
          AND THAT IS THAT WE'RE ASKING OUR, OUR PARTNERS DELEGATION AT THE STATE, RIGHT? UM, TO DO SOMETHING AND ASKING THEM FOR THEIR INPUT BEFORE  BEFORE WE DO THIS, UH, SOUNDS PRUDENT. 
          UM, THE, UH, I'M, I'M HEARING COUNCILWOMAN HDA, UH, EXPRESSED SOME UNCERTAINTY WITH SOME OF THE LANGUAGE AND HER, HER WORDS WERE, TIGHTEN IT UP BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL. 
          I'M HEARING COUNCILWOMAN, UM, SANDOVAL, UH, EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THIS. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ALSO ASK SOME SUBSEQUENT QUESTIONS. 
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UH, AND SO THE O THE OPTION IN FRONT OF US IN THIS MOTION IS TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, TO STUDY THIS FURTHER IN CONJUNCTION WITH Y'ALL. 
          OR I GUESS WE COULD JUST ASK THEM TO STUDY IT FURTHER, COME BACK FOR, YOU KNOW, WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN WORK WITH THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO'VE GOT THESE CONCERNS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSED BEFORE YOU BRING THEM UP. 
          AND SO, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR, UH, TO YOUR MOTION JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO UN PANEL A, A SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          RIGHT? SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT AMENDING THAT? I ACCEPT YOUR AMENDMENT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          AND THEN TO COME BACK HERE EVENTUALLY. 
          NOW, I, I WILL TELL YOU, JEFF, THAT, UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE MONITORING THIS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF, OF THE DEBATE WHO ARE GOING TO, UH, EXPECT SOME KIND OF MOVEMENT ON THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOON, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, I, I WILL WANNA CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU AND CARLOS, UM, MAYBE TODAY SO WE CAN SCHEDULE, UM, AND PUT TOGETHER, UH, YOU KNOW, AN EXPECTED TIME WHEN WE, WHEN WE ARE GONNA HEAR THIS BACK, BECAUSE I DO HAVE TO GO TALK TO THE MAYOR, UM, AND EXPLAIN TO HIM WHY IT IS HIS RESOLUTION, UH, DIDN'T GET OUTTA COMMITTEE, BUT I DO WANT TO GUARANTEE FOR HIM THAT WE ARE TACKLING THIS, YOU KNOW, WITH DELIBERATE SPEED AND NOT DELAYING IT. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, UNREASONABLY, RIGHT? SO, UH, WITH THAT WE GOT A MOTION AND WE'VE GOT A SECOND ON THE TABLE. 
          UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND, UH, HEARING OPPOSITION MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO SHOWED UP TO TALK ABOUT, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UH, UH, 
          [2. 19-8471 Briefing on the October 2019 Washington, D.C. advocacy visit [Jeff
Coyle, Director, Government & Public Affairs]]
NEXT TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, WHICH WAS A, UM, SUMMARY OF THE WORK THAT WE DID IN WASHINGTON D C SALLY. 
          YEAH, SALLY'S GONNA DO THIS PRESENTATION. 
          IT'S A RECAP OF THE TRIP THAT THE TWO OF YOU TOOK, UH, SINCE THE WHOLE COMMITTEE HASN'T HAD THE REPORT YET. 
          AND, UH, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPMENTS IN SEVERAL OF THE AREAS THAT WE WERE UP THERE ADVOCATING, UH, FOR ISSUES I SHOULD SAY. 
          SO SALLY'S GOT A, A UPDATE ON THOSE LAST SLIDE. 
          SORRY. 
          WENT TOO FAST. 
          GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          THANK YOU, JEFF. 
          UM, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS TODAY, THIS MORNING, AS JEFF SAID, I'M GONNA PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF A WASHINGTON DC TRIP THAT WAS LED BY CHAIRMAN PAL AND COUNCIL MEMBER ANA SANDOVAL JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, OCTOBER 21ST THROUGH THE 24TH. 
          I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS WAS A VERY TIMELY VISIT TO WASHINGTON D C DURING THE CAPITOL HILL VISITS THAT I WILL DISCUSS, UH, LATER, AND, UH, INCLUDING THE AGENCY VISITS. 
          IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TIME IN OCTOBER FOR THE AGENCIES AND THE CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY'RE DISCUSSING, UH, PRIORITIES AND FUNDING FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR FOR FY 2020. 
          WE ADVOCATED SPECIFICALLY FOR CITY PRIORITIES AND OTHER TIMELY ISSUES RELATED TO THE FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM. 
          UH, SAID BEFORE, IT'S ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE OUR CITY MEMBERS, ELECTED OFFICIALS JOIN US FOR THESE WASHINGTON DC VISITS. 
          WE COMMUNICATE WITH OUR FEDERAL OFFICIALS AND OUR STAFF, UM, COLLEAGUES ALL THE TIME. 
          SO WHEN WE HAVE OUR CITY ELECTED OFFICIALS UP IN WASHINGTON, IT MAKES OUR JOBS EASIER TO BE ABLE, UH, TO DEMONSTRATE THE ADVOCACY, UM, HERE LOCALLY IN WASHINGTON DC SORRY, THIS IS VERY SENSITIVE. 
          THESE ARE THE AGENCY MEETINGS. 
          THERE WERE FIVE, UH, THAT WE ATTENDED IN WASHINGTON, THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, SPECIFICALLY O E A, THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC ADJUSTMENT, AND THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          I WILL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, UM, IN THE FORTHCOMING SLIDES. 
          AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, CONGRESSIONAL HILL VISITS. 
          WE MET PERSONALLY WITH CONGRESSMAN CUELLAR AND CONGRESSMAN CASTRO. 
          THAT WAS A VERY BUSY WEEK, UH, ON CAPITOL HILL. 
          AND DUE TO COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND VOTES THAT THAT TOOK, UH, CONGRESSMAN HEARD IN CONGRESSMAN DOGGETT AWAY. 
          BUT WE HAD VERY GOOD INTERACTIVE MEETINGS WITH, UH, STAFF FOR CONGRESSMAN DOGGETT AND CONGRESSMAN HERD. 
          THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE FOCUSED ON DURING OUR VISIT, AND I WILL GO MORE INTO DETAIL, BUT THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION FUNDING, UH, IS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES IN OUR CURRENT LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM. 
          BUILD GRANT SUBMISSION VIA SUBMITTED $25 MILLION REQUEST TO THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO REDEVELOP THE ROBERT THOMPSON. 
          THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE ALSO FALLS UNDER OUR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THIS'S ALSO A PRIORITY IN OUR CURRENT FEDERAL PROGRAM AND THE DEFENSE COMMUNITIES INFRASTRUCTURE 
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PROGRAM AND THE F 16 SQUADRONS AT J B S A OR THE F 16 TRAINING UNIT ALSO FALLS UNDER MILITARY PROTECTION, ALSO A PRIORITY IN OUR FEDERAL PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, BUT NOT LEAST, THE MIGRANT RESOURCE CENTER REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE SUBMITTED THROUGH OUR, UH, HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN SEPTEMBER. 
          WE'VE DONE CONTINUOUS, UH, ADVOCACY ON THAT ISSUE AS WELL. 
          I'D LIKE TO GET STARTED BY SHARING WITH YOU, UM, POST DC TRIP. 
          WE CONTINUED HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, UH, STAFF TO ENSURE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AVAIL OURSELVES OF INFORMATION FOR ANY UPCOMING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY WERE GOING TO OPEN UP IN, IN THE NEAR, UM, OR FURTHER, UH, DOWN IN 2020. 
          THESE ARE FIVE GRANTS THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE POSTED IN THEIR F Y 20 GRANTS FORECAST. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS THE IMPROVING CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESPONSES TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DATING VIOLENCE, SEXUAL ASSAULT AND STALKING PROGRAM. 
          UM, I SHOULD ADD THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE'S FOCUS IS PRIMARILY IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE ARENA. 
          SO THESE GRANTS ARE GONNA FOCUS ON THAT. 
          SO THAT FIRST ONE ENCOURAGES PARTNERSHIPS TO ENSURE THE DATING VIOLENCE STALKING ARE TREATED AS SERIOUS VIOLATIONS OF THE LAW. 
          THE SECOND ONE, JUSTICE FOR FAMILIES. 
          AND, UM, I SHOULD BACK UP THOUGH. 
          NUMBER ONE, IMPROVING CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESPONSES. 
          D O J HAS INFORMED US THAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING A $53 MILLION POT. 
          THIS IS NATIONWIDE. 
          UH, SO THOSE ARE FUNDS THAT THEY WILL MAKE AVAILABLE FOR DISCRETIONARY APPLICATION AND AWARDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          THE JUSTICE FOR FAMILIES PROGRAM, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING $11 MILLION, AND THIS ONE SUPPORTS, UM, THE ASPECTS OF CIVIL AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM LOCALLY FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES, AGAIN, IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE ARENA. 
          THE THIRD ONE, THE TRAINING AND SERVICES TO END VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN WITH DISABILITIES. 
          THIS WILL BE A $6 MILLION POT, AND IT WILL FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES ARE TREATED FAIRLY IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. 
          UH, REGARDING, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES, THE NUMBER OF FOUR GRANT OPPORTUNITY. 
          THESE ARE THE STOP VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT FORMULA GRANTS THAT WILL GO TO THE STATES. 
          THEY ARE ANTICIPATING OPENING THOSE UP, UM, FOR AWARD IN MARCH OF 2020. 
          SO THIS WILL BE TRACKING CLOSELY BECAUSE THAT MEANS THE STATE OF TEXAS WILL RECEIVE SOME OF THIS MONEY AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS AS WELL. 
          THE FIFTH ONE I WANTED TO ADD, UM, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED OPENING UP THEIR SOLICITATIONS FOR, UM, NOVEMBER, AND THIS ONE WAS THE FIRST ONE. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ONE, AS YOU CAN SEE, WAS JUST PRIMARILY FOR TRIBAL COMMUNITIES. 
          SO D O J HAS STARTED THE PROCESS AND THEY HAVE STARTED OPENING UP THEIR SOLICITATION. 
          SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THOSE. 
          I WILL, UH, SHARE THAT IT IS A GOAL OF G P A TO ENSURE THAT WE GATHER AS MUCH INFORMATION FOR OPPORTUNITIES AT THE STATE FEDERAL LEVEL, SINCE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTING A LOT MORE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE DOMESTIC COMMISSION, OUR LOCAL PARTNERS, AND BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY ALERT THEM TO THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND IN ADVANCE AND, UH, PREP THEM FOR A DECISION WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA PURSUE THESE OR NOT. 
          THE NEXT, UH, FORECAST WAS UNDER THE HEALTH AND HUMANS SERVICES DEPARTMENT, MORE FEDERAL FUNDS. 
          THEIRS ARE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN IN 2020. 
          THESE ARE TWO GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AS PART OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES. 
          THE FIRST ONE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A $12 MILLION, UH, POT. 
          AND THIS ONE IS A HOTLINE GRANT. 
          UM, THIS WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT PARTNERSHIP TO HAVE BECAUSE IT PROVIDES PREVENTION AND RESOURCES, UM, TO THEIR GRANTEES, AND IT WILL FOCUS ON CRISIS INTERVENTION AND COUNSELING SERVICES. 
          THE SECOND ONE IS THE FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION DISCUSSIONARY GRANT. 
          UM, THESE WILL BE FOR DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS. 
          THEY WILL SELECT, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING SELECTING ABOUT 24, UH, GRANTEES, OR 24 PROJECTS. 
          AND THIS ONE, UH, WILL SUPPORT THE EXPANSION OF LOCAL PROGRAMS AND COALITIONS. 
          SO WE'LL DEFINITELY BE LOOKING AT, FOR THESE TWO IN THAT POT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $8.25 MILLION. 
          THE LAST ONE OF THE, UH, FORECAST IS THE STATE ONE. 
          THIS ONE FALLS UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S STATE CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION. 
          THEY GET THEIR FUNDING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FROM THE AWA FUND, AND THESE ARE THE TWO GRANT PROGRAMS. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT LESS 
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INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR THESE AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          HOWEVER, IN MY COMMUNICATION WITH THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR, HE SHARED THAT THESE TWO GRANTS SHOULD BE OPENING UP IN MID-DECEMBER. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT DECEMBER 13TH, UH, AROUND THAT, UH, TIMEFRAME. 
          THE FIRST GRANT, THE GENERAL, UH, VICTIM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, UM, IT ASSISTS PROGRAMS LOCALLY TO IMPROVE THE LOCAL PROCESS. 
          UM, FOR THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AGAIN, THERE'S GONNA BE A MUCH GREATER FOCUS IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE ARENA. 
          WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH FUNDING WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE GENERAL VICTIM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, BUT THEY DID INFORM ME THAT THERE WILL BE A MINIMUM GRANT REQUEST OF $10,000. 
          FOR THE SECOND ONE, THE, UH, VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN JUSTICE AND TRAINING PROGRAM. 
          THIS, WE HEARD A LOT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN WASHINGTON DURING OUR MEETING, THAT THEY SUPPORT A COORDINATED MULTIDISCIPLINARY APO APPROACH TO THEIR LOCAL, UM, TO THE LOCAL PROGRAMS. AND SO THIS PARTICULAR GRANT, THE TRAINING, UH, PROGRAM WILL SUPPORT TO IMPROVE THE JUSTICE RESPONSE TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CRIMES, UM, SERIOUS CRIMES AT THAT. 
          SO WE'LL DEFINITELY BE LOOKING OUT A LOT TO, TO TRACK IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, STARTING THIS MONTH. 
          AND, UM, WE WILL BE SHARING, LIKE I SAID, ALL THIS INFORMATION WITH THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COMMISSION AND OUR PARTNERS. 
          UM, THAT SAID, I WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS OR ACTION ITEMS THAT WE EXECUTED. 
          UM, POST WASHINGTON DC UH, TRIP AT THE STAFF LEVEL. 
          ON OCTOBER 21ST, JEFF AND I ATTENDED A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COMMISSION MEETING. 
          JEFF MADE A PRESENTATION AND HE SHARED OUR FEDERAL CONSULTANTS MEMO ON ALL THE DOMESTIC FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE OUT THERE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, LET THEM KNOW WHAT COULD BE COMING IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO FOLLOWING THAT MEMO, THEM GETTING THE INFORMATION FOR THE FORECAST OF THE GRANTS WAS THE NEXT STEP FOR US TO TAKE. 
          UM, AND WE'VE TAKEN THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN EXECUTING ALMOST WEEKLY, IF NOT DAILY COMMUNICATION WITH CONGRESSIONAL GRANT COORDINATORS. 
          SPECIFICALLY, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE SENATOR CORNYN, CONGRESSMAN COYAR AND CONGRESSMAN CASTRO'S, UM, GRANT COORDINATORS BECAUSE THESE MEMBERS HAVE SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED A GRANT COORDINATOR ROLE TO THE STAFF. 
          AND SO THEY, THOSE THREE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL IN HELPING US TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC GRANTS FOR, UM, THIS ARENA. 
          THEY WILL ESSENTIALLY ACT AS AN EXTENSION OF US, UM, HERE. 
          AND THERE'S ONE GRANT COORDINATOR IN SAN ANTONIO, AND THE OTHER TWO ARE IN WASHINGTON D C. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE ACCESS TO EVIS GRANTS LOCATOR. 
          THIS IS AN ONLINE WEB-BASED GRANTS LOCATOR PROGRAM, AND WE HAVE ESTABLISHED SEARCH AGENTS OR SEARCH ALERTS. 
          SO WE WILL BE ABLE THROUGH THIS ONLINE WEB-BASED GRANTS LOCATOR BE GETTING AUTOMATIC ALERTS WHEN ANY OF THESE, UH, AVAILABLE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES COME OPEN. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS SAFETY NETS IN PLACE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HELP US IDENTIFY THESE GRANTS AS SOON AS THEY OPEN AND HOPEFULLY GET A HEAD START ON THEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE ONGOING COMMUNICATION WITH THE STATE JUSTICE PROGRAMS ADMINISTRATOR. 
          HE GAVE US THE STATE GRANT FORECAST, AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE OUR DIALOGUE WITH HIM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE IDENTIFY ANY OPPORTUNITIES COMING THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          ADDITIONALLY, AS A POST UM, ACTION ITEM, ONCE THE, UM, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COMPREHENSION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS RELEASED, WE SHARED THAT WITH, UM, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES IN WASHINGTON, DC SPECIFICALLY WITH SHAWNDALE DAWSON. 
          WE MET WITH HER WHILE IN WASHINGTON. 
          SHE SHARED THAT WITH HER GRANTS TEAM. 
          SO THE NEXT STEP WILL BE FOR HER AND HER TEAM TO REVIEW OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND THEN WE WILL SET UP VERY SOON, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, A FOLLOW-UP TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PHONE CALL. 
          AND SO IT'LL BE, UM, A, UH, OVERVIEW OF WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND THE CALL, OF COURSE, WILL INCLUDE, UH, PARTNERS AND KEY PARTNERS THAT SHOULD BE ON THE CALL SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. 
          AT THAT POINT, THEY WILL BE AWARE OF WHAT OUR, UM, GAPS ARE IN THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PLAN AND WHAT STRENGTHS WE HAVE AND WHAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES BEST ALIGNED WITH SAN ANTONIO'S PLAN. 
          WE'VE ALSO SHARED, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION THAT HELPS THEM BE AWARE AND EDUCATES THEM AGAIN, ON WHERE WE ARE IN OUR NEEDS AND WHERE OUR STRENGTHS ARE AS WELL. 
          SO THEY WILL BE PARTNERS IN, UM, OUR SEARCH FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT WE NEED, UM, 
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IN CAPITOL HILL. 
          UM, ADDITIONALLY WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF MY COLLEAGUE EDUARDO CARRASCO, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WHEN WE MET WITH THEM WAS TO SUBMIT AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FOR THE WINNING APPLICATIONS THAT THEY FUNDED IN THE PAST. 
          WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF EDUARDO, WE SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR FIVE, UH, GRANT WINNING APPLICATIONS THAT D O J HAS AWARDED A COUPLE OF THEM IN TEXAS AND OTHERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          SO ONCE WE GET THOSE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO REVIEW THOSE HOPEFULLY MORE QUICKLY, UM, THAN LATER, AND BE ABLE TO PREPARE AND IDENTIFY WHAT THE STRONG APPLICATIONS LOOK LIKE ACCORDING TO T O J, UM, AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO ALIGN THAT WITH, UM, OUR PROPOSALS AS WELL IN THE FUTURE. 
          NEXT, ANOTHER ISSUE OF FOCUS DURING THE WASHINGTON D C TRIP LAST MONTH, UM, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, VIA SUBMITTED A $25 MILLION GRANT PROPOSAL TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE THOMPSON CENTER. 
          UM, LA JUST YESTERDAY, LATE AFTERNOON, A D O T ANNOUNCED THEIR AWARDS, AND UNFORTUNATELY, VIA WAS NOT SELECTED FOR AN AWARD. 
          AND WE DO HAVE, UH, JOHN GARRA, UM, VICE PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WITH VIA, HE WAS ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WAS WITH US, PART OF OUR DELEGATION TO WASHINGTON. 
          WHEN WE MET WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE INFORMATION THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION RELEASED YESTERDAY AS PART OF THEIR, UH, NOTICE THEY HAD A $900 MILLION POT, UM, NATIONWIDE TO FUND VARIOUS INFRASTRUCTURE TRANSPORTATION GRANTS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DATA ON THIS SLIDE, SO I WILL GO SLOW. 
          UM, THEY RECEIVED OVER 10 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF REQUESTS, $9.6 MILLION. 
          THIS PROGRAM IS ALWAYS VERY HIGHLY COMPETITIVE. 
          SO A QUALITY PROPOSAL IN A PROPOSAL THE D O T IS LOOKING FOR IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          SO IF YOU'LL SEE ON THE THIRD BULLET, THEY RECEIVED, UM, THEY FUNDED 55 PROJECTS IN 35 STATES. 
          THERE WERE TWO PROJECTS AWARDED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO BEAUMONT AND TO HOUSTON, AND THAT WAS IT. 
          THERE WERE, THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO TEXAS, TEXAS PROJECTS. 
          BEAUMONT RECEIVED 18 MILLION, AND HOUSTON RECEIVED 25. 
          UM, IF I SEE MY NOTES HERE, HOUSTON WAS A ROAD AND STREET IMPROVEMENT INCLUDED SIDEWALKS, RAMPS, CROSSINGS, AND A BICYCLE FACILITY. 
          THAT WAS THE STATE, UH, THAT WAS THE CITY OF HOUSTON. 
          AND THEN FOR BEAUMONT, THEIR AWARD WAS 18 MILLION. 
          AND THAT WAS A, UH, WHARF INFRASTRUCTURE IN RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AGAIN FOR 18 MILLION. 
          UH, BACK TO THIS SLIDE, D O T RECEIVED 666 APPLICATIONS. 
          SO AGAIN, A VERY PURSUED, UM, GRANT NATIONALLY, UM, ACCORDING TO D O T, HIGHWAYS, ROADS AND BRIDGES ARE WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO FUND. 
          UM, TRANSIT ONLY, UH, PROJECTS WERE AT ABOUT 10% OF THEIR FULL NATIONAL AWARD. 
          AND I KNOW THAT, UM, JOHN GARY MAY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DATA SPECIFICALLY TO THE BREAKDOWN OF THE AWARDS SINCE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS WAS MADE YESTERDAY. 
          JOHN, GARY, DID YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? NO, I'M JUST GONNA ADD THAT THE, UH, THE ADJUSTMENT FROM THE LAST PROBLEMS. OH. 
          SO WHILE, WHILE CONGRESS CAME IN FROM THE LAST BUILD GRANT AWARD AND REQUIRED A 50% PARTICIPATION, OR AT LEAST A 50% AWARD TO URBAN AREAS, THAT INDEED HAPPENED, BUT IT JUST WASN'T THE URBAN AREAS IN TEXAS THAT WE WERE, WE WERE QUITE HOPING FOR. 
          I THINK GOING FORWARD, IT'S PROBABLY, AND WE'VE HAD, UH, PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT PARTNERING AHEAD OF TIME ON SOME OF THESE, UH, BUILD GRANT APPLICATIONS AND MAKE IT MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD PUT US IN A BETTER POSITION POSSIBLY FOR FUTURE BUILD GRANT, UH, APPLICATIONS. 
          THANK YOU, JOHN. 
          GARY. 
          THE NEXT STEPS, UH, VIA WILL REQUEST A GRANT DEBRIEFING FROM D O T THAT ESSENTIALLY WILL ALLOW VIA TO FIND OUT WHAT THE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES OF THE APPLICATION WERE. 
          THAT USUALLY HAPPENS ABOUT A MONTH OUT. 
          SO WE'LL KNOW MORE DETAILS AND INFORMATION ABOUT SPECIFICALLY HOW, UH, THE PROPOSAL, UH, SCORED AND AGAIN, IT'S STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES. 
          UM, WE HAVE STARTED A DIALOGUE WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TEAM TO TRY AND, AND IDENTIFY POSSIBLE FUTURE PROJECTS THAT ALIGN WITH, UM, THE BUILD GRANT FOR THE NEXT CYCLE. 
          AND SO THOSE, UH, CONVERSATIONS WILL BE ONGOING AND WE WILL INCLUDE, UH, PARTNERS, UM, THAT WILL HELP US DETERMINE MOVING FORWARD ONCE WE GET THE FEEDBACK FROM D O T ONCE WE REVIEW 
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ALL, ALL, OR MOST OF THE, UH, BUILD GRANT AWARDS TO SEE WHERE D O T UM, SENT ITS MONEY. 
          NOT TO SAY THAT SOMETIMES SOME OF THESE DECISIONS ARE POLITICAL, BUT, UM, STILL WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING FUNDED ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH THIS FUNDING. 
          THE NEXT ISSUE THAT WE ADVOCATED, UM, IN WASHINGTON WAS DSIP. 
          THIS IS THE DEFENSE COMMUNITIES INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM IN 2019, IN THE N D A A ACT, CONGRESS INCLUDED FUNDING FOR PILOT PROJECTS, UH, FOR THIS, UH, PARTICULAR PROGRAM. 
          THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM SUPPORTS AND FUNDS OFF BASE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT ARE LOCATED IN COMMUNITIES WHERE BASES ARE LOCATED. 
          THEY SUPPORT, UH, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, POLICE, FIRE, UH, WASTEWATER PROJECTS, TELECOM PROJECTS. 
          SO THERE'S A WIDE ARRAY OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN FUND THROUGH THIS. 
          UM, THE LANGUAGE WAS INCLUDED IN F Y 19, HOWEVER, THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE AN, AN ANNUAL APPROPRIATION FOR THIS FUNDING. 
          THIS YEAR. 
          IN THE SUMMER, THE HOUSE, UH, PASSED THEIR BILL AND D CIP FUNDING WAS NOT INCLUDED. 
          HOWEVER, FORTUNATELY IN THE SENATE VERSION 75 MILLION WAS, UM, ADDED FOR D CIP. 
          IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY NATIONWIDE, HOWEVER, IT'S, IT OPENS THE DOOR IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET THIS FUNDING FOR THE POT TO INCREASE IN FUTURE YEARS. 
          DSIP IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE STATE'S DAG PROGRAM, WHICH SAN ANTONIO AND ITS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR RECEIVING STATE DAG AWARDS IN THE PAST. 
          SO IT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS FUNDING. 
          SENATOR CORNYN AND OUR ENTIRE HOUSE DELEGATION, INCLUDING SENATOR CRUZ, THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PARTICULAR GRANT. 
          SO, UM, THEY'RE AWARE THAT J IN OUR COLLABORATION WITH J B S A, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED PROJECTS THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY SHOVEL READY THAT WE WOULD HAVE AVAILABLE TO SUBMIT FOR THIS FUNDING IF AND WHEN THIS, UM, APPROPRIATION WAS A APPROVED, UM, THROUGH CONGRESS. 
          SO IN SEPTEMBER, THE HOUSE AND SENATE EE FOR N D A A WERE NAMED, AND THEY HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING SINCE THEN. 
          THE ISSUE WITH, UM, D CIP IS THAT IT IS IN A BILL THAT HAS OTHER, UH, SNAGS THAT BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE DON'T AGREE ON. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF IN A, IN A WAITING, UH, LOOP RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT, UH, WE ARE TRACKING VERY CLOSELY. 
          OUR DELEGATION IS AWARE THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH IN, IN SUPPORT OF THIS. 
          AND, UH, GENERAL AYALA WOULD TELL YOU THAT SAN ANTONIO IS A GREAT CANDIDATE, UM, FOR THESE TYPE OF, OF, UH, PROJECTS AND THIS TYPE OF FUNDING. 
          UM, ANOTHER MILITARY PROTECTION PRIORITY FOR US. 
          UM, JBS A'S F 16 TRAINING UNIT, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE AIR FORCE NOTIFIED, UH, J B S A, THAT THEY WERE ONE OF THE THREE FINALISTS NATIONWIDE FOR THE F 16, UH, PERMANENT FORMAL TRAINING UNIT. 
          AND AS GENERAL AYALA AND TIM OLIVER WOULD SAY SAN ANTONIO IS BEST SUITED, UM, FOR THIS NEW MISSION BECAUSE OF THE 20 PLUS YEARS OF THE HUNDRED AND 49TH FIGHTER WING OF TRAIN F 16 PILOTS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THE GREAT WEATHER. 
          AND SO THERE ARE, UH, VARIOUS OTHER ASSETS THAT J B S A HAS. 
          WE'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR. 
          THIS GENERAL AYALA HAS GONE TO WASHINGTON, DC VARIOUS TIMES. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE, UH, LETTERS OF SUPPORT, UH, FROM THE MAYOR, FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, FROM THE SA CHAMBER, THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          UM, IN ADDITION, SINCE, UH, POST DC ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DECIDED TO DO, UH, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR FEDERAL CONSULTANTS, IT'S TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE CONGRESSIONAL LETTER OF SUPPORT WHERE ALL THE MEMBERS WILL SIGN IN UNISON, IN SUPPORT. 
          UM, FOR THIS, THE TIMELINE IS A LITTLE SKETCHY. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY ANOTHER YEAR TO A YEAR AND A HALF. 
          IT'S THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE MAKING THIS ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          SO REGARDLESS, WE ARE TRACKING IT VERY CLOSELY. 
          THE ADVOCACY, THE STRONG ADVOCACY WILL CONTINUE FOR THE F 16. 
          AND, UM, GENERAL AYALA WILL CONTINUE MAKING VISITS, UH, TO WASHINGTON, UM, TO THE PENTAGON TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S CONTINUOUS SUPPORT, UM, AND THAT WE, UH, VOICE OUR STRONG SUPPORT, UM, THAT THEY CONTINUE LOOKING AT SAN ANTONIO FOR THIS NEW MISSION. 
          AND LASTLY, BUT NOT LEAST, UM, IN SEPTEMBER, WE SUBMITTED, UH, REIMBURSEMENT, UH, FOR THE MIGRANT RESOURCE CENTER THROUGH THE NATIONAL BOARD, THE EMERGENCY FOOD AND SHELTER BOARD. 
          WE SUBMITTED, UM, IN THE AMOUNT OF $540,000 PLUS FOR REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS. 
          HOWEVER, ONCE THE LOCAL BOARD REVIEWED SAN ANTONIO, THE CITY OF 
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SAN ANTONIO SUBMISSION, THEY ONLY APPROVED $280,000. 
          UM, WHEN, WHEN WE REALIZED THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING, WE LOOKED AT SPECIFICALLY WHY THEY HAD NOT APPROVED THE AMOUNT THAT THEY HAD NOT APPROVED FOR REIMBURSEMENTS. 
          IT WAS ESSENTIALLY AROUND TWO VERY SPECIFIC ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, UM, THAT THE LOCAL AND NATIONAL BOARD WAS LOOKING AT. 
          UM, WE WERE OF THE BELIEF THAT THE NATIONAL BOARD CREATED GUIDELINES THAT MIRRORED MORE THEIR NATIONAL PROGRAM. 
          AND BECAUSE CONGRESS PUT SUCH A FAST TRACK TIMELINE FOR THEM TO PUSH OUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND, UH, THE FUNDING OUT, THEY TRIED TO MIRROR QUICKLY THEIR NATIONAL PROGRAM. 
          AND IT JUST REALLY DIDN'T ALIGN WITH THE, WITH CONGRESSMAN CUELLAR AND SENATOR CORNYN'S VISION FOR THE LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE THAT SAN ANTONIO WORKED ON DIRECTLY WITH CONGRESSMAN CUELLAR AND SENATOR CORNYN. 
          SO THAT SAID, WE FAST FORWARD, WE GET THE NOTICE, UH, OUR HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND EDWARD GONZALEZ IS HERE. 
          THEY SUBMITTED IN WRITING THE CONCERNS AND CHALLENGES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, UM, BY THE APPLICATION AND THE ELIGIBILITY, ELIGIBILITY REIMBURSEMENT CRITERIA THAT WE DID NOT QUALIFY FOR. 
          AND THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY THE REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE PROVIDED IN ADVANCE TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES AND THE FOOD BANK. 
          UM, THE NATIONAL BOARD WAS SAYING THAT THEY COULD NOT REIMBURSE THEM AND THEY COULD NOT REIMBURSE US. 
          THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          ESSENTIALLY, THEY VOICED THE CONCERN OF DOUBLE-DIPPING. 
          SINCE THEN, WE HAVE VOICED OUR CONCERNS. 
          CONGRESSMAN QUARE AND HIS TEAM HAVE HAD VARIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NATIONAL BOARD OFFLINE. 
          UM, THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 29TH, CONGRESSMAN QUARE COORDINATED A CALL WITH THE NATIONAL BOARD. 
          I WAS THERE IN PERSON IN WASHINGTON, DC UM, TAKING CARE OF, OF, UM, OTHER BUSINESS. 
          SO THE CONGRESSMAN INVITED ME TO ATTEND. 
          EDWARD WAS ALSO ON THE CALL. 
          WE REITERATED OUR CONCERNS. 
          UM, ON THAT CALL, ONE OF THE NATIONAL BOARD MEMBERS NOTIFIED US THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT A NARRATIVE IN WRITING TO EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT THE REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE HAD SUBMITTED FOR THAT WERE NOT DEEMED ELIGIBLE DURING THE FIRST ROUND. 
          SO THEY ARE REVIEWING OUR SUBMISSION FOR THE ROUND ONE, AND WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT IT WILL BE RECONSIDERED FOR ROUND TWO. 
          UM, THE ROUND TWO SHOULD BE EITHER IN DECEMBER, MID-DECEMBER, OR MAYBE EVEN IN JANUARY. 
          BETWEEN ALL THOSE MOVING PARTS, WE WERE NOTIFIED A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THAT THE NATIONAL BOARD WILL BE HERE NEXT WEEK TO DO A LISTENING SESSION. 
          SO CONGRESSMAN CUELLAR IS BRINGING THE NATIONAL BOARD MEMBERSHIP TO SAN ANTONIO TO MEET WITH THE CITY AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS SO THAT WE CAN EXPLAIN TO THEM IN PERSON OUR CONCERNS WITH THE REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE DID NOT GET. 
          SO I DON'T WANNA BE OVERLY OPTIMISTIC, BUT IT REALLY DOES LOOK WITH THE CONGRESSMAN'S ASSISTANCE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET AS CLOSE TO POSSIBLE TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE D DID NOT GET FUNDED. 
          THEY REALLY WANNA COME LOCALLY TO LEARN WHAT THEY THEY MISSED. 
          UH, AND SO THEY WILL BE GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY, ASIDE FROM THE WRITING NARRATIVE THAT WE WILL BE SUBMITTING THIS WEEK TO THE NATIONAL BOARD, THEY WILL BE HERE NEXT WEEK, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO CLARIFY THAT IN PERSON. 
          SO THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK ON NOVEMBER 19TH. 
          SO, ALL POSITIVE NEWS, WE DIDN'T GET ALL WE REQUESTED INITIALLY, BUT, UM, WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL WITH THE CONGRESSMAN'S ASSISTANCE THAT WE WILL GET. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY MOST OF THAT MONEY REIMBURSED, UM, THAT DIDN'T GET REIMBURSED IN ROUND ONE. 
          AND THAT IS THE UPDATE. 
          SORRY, IT WAS A LITTLE LENGTHY AT PARTS, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO SHARE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, OUR FIRST QUESTION COMES FROM, UH, COUNCILWOMAN . 
          YES. 
          UH, THANK YOU, UH, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          LOTS OF WORK TO BE, UH, THAT HAS BEEN DONE CONTINUING TO BE DONE. 
          UM, JUST THE ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD IN HERE, 'CAUSE I'M GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE IN A SECOND. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUILD GRANT MM-HMM. 
          , AND I'LL TALK TO T C I ABOUT THIS AS WE'RE PITCHING THINGS TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO, FOR US TO CONSIDER, AND I'LL SHARE IT WITH T C I THEY ALREADY KNOW THIS, IS TO LOOK AT OUR EAST WEST CONNECTOR, SOUTH OF FOUR 10, UM, BECAUSE OF A HIGHWAY 16 CONNECTING TO I 37, WE HAVE NAVISTAR THAT WAS JUST, UH, PUT FORWARD. 
          WE HAVE TOYOTA THAT'S CONTINUING WITH THEIR INVESTMENT. 
          WE NEED TO ALLEVIATE THAT CONGESTION THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE. 
          UM, SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT PITCH RIGHT THERE AND TO PUT IT ON YOUR RADAR. 
          WE HAVE SOME, IT'S SEMI-RURAL RIGHT NOW, AND I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT D O T AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS LOOKING AT IS RURAL COMMUNITIES, BUT IT'S SEMI-RURAL. 
          IT'S ALSO CLOSE 
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ENOUGH TO AN URBAN. 
          SO IT CAN HELP SHARE THAT NARRATIVE AND SHAPE THAT NARRATIVE AS WE MOVE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND WE'LL NEED, UM, HELP WITH MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION TOO. 
          SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMEWHERE WE CAN GET IN. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ROGER GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU SALLY, FOR THAT PRESENTATION. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, SO TWO THINGS ON HERE. 
          FIRST IS SLIDE SEVEN. 
          DO WHAT IS CONSIDERED A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT. 
          WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT THAT WILL VARY, THAT'LL DEPEND ON THE FULL, UM, CRITERIA THAT THE AGENCY PUTS OUT. 
          HOWEVER, LOTS OF TIMES DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS ARE MODEL PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN DETERMINED THE BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          AND SO IT BEHOOVES US TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE, UM, WHICH IS WHY WE REQUESTED THE D O J UM, APPLICATIONS. 
          UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THAT FOR HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE CALL WITH HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES IS GOING TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONE AGENCY THAT HAS AGREED TO GIVE US TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AHEAD OF BEING A ACTUAL FORMAL GRANTEE FOR THAT AGENCY. 
          SO WE WILL LEARN MORE, AND THAT'LL DEFINITELY BE A QUESTION THAT WE WILL ASK IN GREAT LENGTH TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR IN THOSE DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS. 
          CAN, CAN I ADD COUNCILMAN? UM, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE PULLED FROM IT THAT, UM, FUNDED DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS, MEANING THOSE THEY CHOOSE, WILL FOCUS ON EXPANDING THEIR CAPACITY TO PREVENT FUTURE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BY ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF CHILDREN EXPOSED TO FAMILY VIOLENCE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO DATING VIOLENCE. 
          THE, THE MOST APPEALING THING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR GRANT IS, IS IT ALIGNS WITH THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THIS IS ABOUT HELPING FAMILIES WHO HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO THAT AND, AND, AND ENDING THAT CYCLE. 
          SO WE'VE SHARED THIS AND SOME OF THE OTHERS WITH DR. 
          BRIDGER AND HER TEAM, AND, AND THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU JEFF. 
          AND THANK YOU, SALLY. 
          I DO WANT TO ADD, UM, COUNCILMAN HDA AND COUNCIL MAJIDA SULLIVAN AND MYSELF, UM, WERE GIVEN A REALLY NICE TOUR AT FAMILY UH, SERVICES, FAMILY VIOLENCE SERVICES PREVENTION. 
          AND SO THEY'RE DOING SOME PHENOMENAL THINGS. 
          AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEIR BUDGET HADN'T BEEN INCREASED IN MANY, MANY YEARS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER WORKING WITH THEM ON WHAT I THINK ARE SOME MODEL PROJECTS. 
          NOT THAT I'M THE EXPERT, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THIS INTO THE CLASSROOMS. AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD START FOCUSING ON EDUCATION AND PREVENTION. 
          UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          UM, ALSO, I WANTED TO ASK, DO WE KNOW WHAT WE DO NOW TO PUSH THE NATIONAL HOTLINE? UH, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY THE, THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINE? 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR $12 MILLION INVESTMENT OR THE, THE GRANT. 
          UM, AND THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING IS TWOFOLD. 
          SO, ONE, I WAS AT AN ASTROS GAME RECENTLY, AND THEY HAVE IT ALL OVER THEIR BATHROOM STALLS. 
          AND SO THAT WAS VERY REFRESHING FOR THE ASTROS TO DO THAT. 
          UM, SECOND OF ALL, I WAS, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A BILINGUAL COMPONENT, BUT I THINK THAT BECAUSE OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE SOME SORT OF A GRANT, UH, THAT FOCUSES ON OUR BILINGUAL COMMUNITY, WHICH WE KNOW SOMETIMES DOES NOT REPORT INCIDENTS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BECAUSE OF OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY'RE LIVING WITH. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN ANSWER SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING. 
          I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE STRATEGIES CALLED FOR IN THE COMPREHENSIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PLAN WAS A HOTLINE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINE IN THE PROMOTION OF IT. 
          AND SO WE WANTED TO TRY TO LINE THAT STRATEGY UP WITH THIS FUNDING MECHANISM. 
          AND TO YOUR FIRST POINT, THE, THE OVERALL MESSAGE ON, ON ALL OF THIS IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF FEDERAL FUNDING STREAMS THAT ALIGN WITH THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THROUGH THE PLAN. 
          AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE THE FEDS AWARE OF THE EFFORT GOING INTO PREVENTING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HERE. 
          AND THEN WE WANTED TO COME BACK AND LET ALL OF OUR PARTNERS KNOW OF ALL THE FEDERAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE, THERE. 
          OUR MESSAGE TO THEM HAS BEEN, IF YOU APPLY AND YOU WANT OUR HELP ADVOCATING AND HELPING US PUSH FOR IT, LET US KNOW. 
          AND, AND WE WILL COMMIT TO YOU TO KEEP SHARING WITH YOU WHEN THESE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES BECOME AVAILABLE. 
          SO IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE THE CITY APPLYING. 
          IT MAY BE FAMILY VIOLENCE OR FAMILY ASSOCIATION, WHOEVER. 
          UH, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BE THE, THE, UH, CONVEYOR OF THE INFORMATION HERE SO THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF IT AND WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER. 
          THANK YOU, JEFF. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND THANK YOU ALSO COUNCILMAN PEIS FOR, FOR HELPING, UM, WITH THAT, UH, FIELD TRIP, IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, AND YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING, JEFF AND I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, THAT I, I COMMEND YOU ALL FOR THE EIV, AND SO I'VE USED IT BEFORE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THE GRANT LOCATOR, WHO HAS ACCESS TO THIS OR HERE, WHO'S KINDA THE CLEARING HOUSE AND WHO'S SENDING THAT INFORMATION OUT? ONE TO NON-PROFITS AND TWO TO OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT CAN WORK ON GRANTS? UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          COUNCILWOMAN. 
          WHAT WE DO IS 
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NORMALLY THROUGH THE REQUEST OF CITY DEPARTMENTS, UM, WE ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN DIRECT ACCESS FOR ANY CITY DEPARTMENT WITHIN, UM, ALL THE 30 SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS. 
          ASIDE FROM THAT, IF THERE IS A HIGH PRIORITY ISSUE THAT WE ARE PURSUING, WE WILL CREATE IN-HOUSE WITHIN G P A, THOSE ADDITIONAL ALERT SYSTEMS. SO THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL SAFETY NET TO BE ABLE TO CATCH THOSE. 
          BUT REALLY ANYBODY WITH A CITY OF SAN ANTONIO EMAIL ADDRESS CAN HAVE ACCESS TO ECIS. 
          WE ARE ABLE TO SHARE THE, UM, IDENTIFIED GRANTS WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, BUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A CITY EMAIL ADDRESS, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE SYSTEM DIRECTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM THAT I WANTED TO FOCUS ON, BECAUSE IT INVOLVES, UH, DISTRICT FOUR, UH, AREA IS THE F 16, THE PERMANENT FORMAL TRAINING, UM, UNIT YESTERDAY I WAS, UH, WITH GENERAL LENDERMAN AND WITH COLONEL THOMPSON, AND I WAS UP AT THE CONTROL TOWER FOR A FEW, UH, UH, A FEW MINUTES WITH, UM, SOME OF THE PILOTS WHO ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING UP. 
          AND SO WHAT I'VE LEARNED IN, IN, WITH THEM, THEY WERE TRYING TO TEACH ME TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR TRAINING PROCESS, UM, IS THAT WE TRAIN EVERYBODY HERE AND THEN THEY GO EVERYWHERE ELSE. 
          SO I WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO I'D LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ALL LATER ABOUT LIKE, WHO THE OTHER TWO FINALISTS ARE. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THOSE PILOTS WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS, THAT IF WE GET THEM, UH, POSSIBLY TO ADVOCATE, UH, FOR US, WE MIGHT HAVE A REALLY GOOD SHOT. 
          I MEAN, THESE ARE JUST, UM, I, I THINK SOME OF THE AIR FORCE FOR PROBABLY BRIGHTEST, UM, FOLKS THAT ARE, THAT ARE THERE DOING THIS ON A DAILY BASIS, AND THEY LOVE WHAT THEY DO. 
          I, I WAS SO EXCITED AFTER THAT THAT I WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE READY TO, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO JOIN THE AIR FORCE OR SOMETHING . 
          UM, THEY HAVE GREAT INNOVATION. 
          THEY HAVE PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON, AND WE'VE REALLY BEEN, I THINK, AT THE FOREFRONT, UH, IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY REALIZES WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, AT, AT KELLY AIRFIELD EVEN. 
          AND SO I'M, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. 
          I JUST WANT TO GO ON, ON RECORD SAYING THAT I AM, UM, INTERESTED IN, IN ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO. 
          BUT I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO BRING THOSE, UM, THOSE AIR, UM, AIRMEN OVER. 
          AND THANK YOU ALL. 
          GREAT POINTS. 
          THE OTHER TWO COMPETITORS ARE IN NEW MEXICO AND ARIZONA, AND TIM WALLER CAN SHARE A FEW MORE DETAILS IF YOU CAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TIM. 
          TIM, WALL OFFICE, MILITARY VETERAN AFFAIRS. 
          SO YES, IT'S, UH, DAVIS MONTAN AIR FORCE BASE, UH, IN, IN, UH, ARIZONA, BASICALLY JUST, UH, INSIDE OF PHOENIX AND HOLLOMAN AIR FORCE BASE, UH, IN NEW MEXICO. 
          UM, HOLLOMAN, UH, WELL, ACTUALLY, I, I BELIEVE, UH, HOLLOMAN HAS BEEN THE, THE TEMPORARY, UH, PLACEMENT OF SOME OF THESE, UH, F 16 SQUADRONS, THE ONES THAT ARE IN, IN, IN DISCUSSION THAT ACTUALLY COME FROM HILL AIR FORCE BASE IN UTAH. 
          UH, SO THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF FACT, SAN ANTONIO, OR EXCUSE ME, KELLY, THE ONE, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE MEET OR EXCEED ALL OF THE AIR FORCE'S REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, I GUESS TECHNICALLY SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES WILL, SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES WOULD AS WELL, BUT WE'RE BETTER POSTURED. 
          THERE ARE SOME ISSUES IN MANNING AT, AT SOME OF THESE OTHER LOCATIONS, WE WOULD, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE THAT PROBLEM HERE. 
          THE ONE 49TH IS FULLY MANNED ALREADY. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE A RECRUITING PROBLEM AS OTHER LOCATIONS DO. 
          SO ALL THOSE OTHER FACTORS THAT WOULD ATTRACT PEOPLE HERE, UH, WE, WE ARE, WE'RE NOW, IT'S JUST, UH, THE AIR FORCE'S, UH, DECISION OF WHERE THEY END UP, UH, PUTTING THOSE PLUS. 
          BUT WE'VE MADE ALL THE, AS AS SALLY, UH, HIGHLIGHTED DURING HER BRIEFING, UM, ALL THE, THE LETTERS THAT CAN GO OUT TO THE DELEGATIONS, UH, HAVE BEEN SENT OUT. 
          UH, THEN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME. 
          THEY'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT, AT FALL OF 2021. 
          UH, THAT'S THE CURRENT AIR FORCE TIMELINE TO MAKE A DECISION, UM, GET AN INITIAL CADRE HERE IN 2023. 
          AND THEN THEY, WHAT WE CALL FULL OPERATION CAPABILITY IN 2024. 
          SOUNDS LIKE IT'S DOWN THE ROAD, BUT THERE ARE GONNA BE A, A LOT OF DECISIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING UP HERE IN THE NEXT, UH, 12 TO 13 MONTHS. 
          I DO HAVE A QUESTION, UH, REGARDING THAT TIMELINE. 
          HOW DOES THE NEW CONTROL TOWER PLAY IN, OR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW CONTROL TOWER PLAY INTO THIS TIMELINE? DO WE HAVE, UM, A TIMELINE FOR THAT? I KNOW THAT'S ALSO, I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THE TOWER. 
          UH, I MEAN, IT'S OPERATIONAL. 
          YES. 
          THEY'RE BUILDING ANOTHER ONE. 
          SO THERE'S ALWAYS A, AN OFF-RAMP PLAN. 
          UH, 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T SHUT DOWN THE TRAINING THAT GOES ON THERE RIGHT NOW, UH, EITHER FROM THERE OR OTHER AIRCRAFT THAT COME IN AND USE THAT AS A TRANSIT. 
          SO LIKE AMAZON 24 7 OR YEAH, EXCUSE AMAZON. 
          IT, IT CAN BE IF, IF NECESSARY. 
          I MEAN, ALL THE, THE FLYING SCHEDULES ARE, YOU KNOW, SET OUT AND THEN WHATEVER NOISE ORDINANCES THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY AROUND THERE. 
          BUT, UM, IT, IT SHOULD NOT IMPACT THAT DECISION, THAT TIMELINE. 
          WE HAVE A TOWER. 
          THAT'S THE IMPORTANT, THE IMPORTANT PIECE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          I WAS JUST HOPING THAT IT WOULDN'T BE, THAT THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE RED FLAGS THAT WE HAVE THIS NEW TOWER THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THAT POSSIBLY DELAY OF FEDERAL FUNDING 
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FOR THAT WOULD DELAY OUR SHOT AT GETTING THE . 
          NO, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU TIM. 
          AND THANK YOU SALLY. 
          AND THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          COUNCILOR, IF I COULD JUST ADD A COUPLE THINGS WHERE, UM, UH, WHAT WE HAVE HEARD IS A CHALLENGE FOR US IS THE OPEN RANGE THAT EXISTS OUTSIDE. 
          UH, THESE OTHER AREAS HAVE MORE VAST OPEN SPACE FOR THE FLYING AND TRAINING THAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED TO US AS ONE ISSUE. 
          BUT EVERY, EVERY BASE HAS GOT THEIR PROS AND CONS. 
          THEY DID COME DOWN HERE AND DO A SITE VISIT THIS FALL. 
          TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE F 16 PILOTS WHO WERE REALLY EXCITED, UM, WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. 
          IT'S PURELY AN INTERNAL D O D THING. 
          AND I THINK EVEN THE LOCAL FOLKS ARE NOT REALLY EQUIPPED TO ADVOCATE. 
          THEY'RE ALL PART OF D O D. 
          WHATEVER DECISION IS MADE, THEY'RE ALL GONNA SUPPORT. 
          UM, SO OUR ROLE, AND JUAN AND TIM AND THEIR OFFICE IS TO BE THE ADVOCATES AND CHAMPION FOR IT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THEY KEEP SCHEDULING MEETINGS AND SENDING LETTERS AND ASKING MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO ADVOCATE FOR US. 
          SO WE CAN REALLY, UH, IMPRESS UPON, THERE'S SOME POSSIBILITY THEY MAY SPLIT THE SQUADRON IN TWO PLACES, WHICH WOULD GIVE US AN EVEN BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING A PART OF IT. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING HARD. 
          THAT'S THE MAIN MESSAGE. 
          AND WE'RE SO GLAD TO HEAR SUPPORT. 
          I ALL HERE . 
          WHAT'S THAT? I SAID I WANT IT ALL HERE. 
          I KNOW YOU DO. 
          WE'RE TRYING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO TO HELP THAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. 
          UM, THANK YOU SALLY AND JEFF. 
          EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. 
          EXTREMELY DENSE WITH LOTS OF GREAT INFORMATION. 
          I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A BIG THANK YOU TO, UH, SALLY FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT SHE DID. 
          UH, WE TRAVELED TO DC TWO TIMES IN, I THINK A WEEK  TOGETHER. 
          UM, AND, UH, SALLY WAS NEVER TIRED, ALWAYS FULL OF ENERGY. 
          AND, UH, AS A RESULT OF OUR FIRST TRIP, SHE WAS ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH CONGRESSMAN GOYA A FEW DAYS LATER AND SET HIM STRAIGHT, IF I MAY SAY SO ON, UH, ON THE REIMBURSEMENT AND PROBABLY WHY WE'RE HAVING THAT, UH, GROUP COME VISIT IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO I JUST WANNA SAY JOB, UH, WELL DONE, UH, ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE, PLUS A WHOLE LOT MORE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          IT'S APPRECIATED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, I, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST WORKING TRIPS THAT WE'VE EVER TAKEN UP TO, UP TO DC. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, AND REALLY WHAT I ENJOYED THE MOST WAS SEEING YOU WORK, UH, SALLY, UH, YOU'RE REALLY GOOD AT YOUR JOB, AND I'M, I'M ALWAYS MORE AND MORE IMPRESSED EVERY TIME I SEE YOU ACTUALLY UP THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, EVERYBODY PLEASE BE MORE LIKE SALLY  THE, UH, JUST KIDDING. 
          . 
          SO, UM, I, I, I DO WANT TO, UH, THROW OUT A COUPLE OF, UH, REMINDERS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM H H SS AND UM, FROM THE D O J WAS THAT THEY THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US LOCALLY TO CONVENE, UH, ALL OF THEM TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM, ALONG WITH OUR STATE AND OUR FED, UH, PARTNERS, UM, AND OUR LOCALS MM-HMM. 
           TO ACTUALLY TALK THIS PROBLEM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THROUGH, UM, AND TO HIGHLIGHT WHY SAN ANTONIO IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT. 
          WE'VE HEARD THAT ANOTHER TEXAS CITY, I THINK DALLAS OR FORT WORTH DID THAT RECENTLY, AND THAT THERE WAS SOME SUCCESS, UM, THERE. 
          AND, UH, I, I, I DO THINK THAT THAT SUGGESTION IS VALID AND THAT WE SHOULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT, JEFF. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND THING THAT WE HEARD ALSO, UM, WAS, UH, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, OH, YEAH. 
          THAT WE NEEDED TO, UM, WORK ON CONVINCING OUR LOCAL US ATTORNEY, UM, TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE ALL THE LAWS AVAILABLE TO HIM AND HIS TEAM, SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, PROSECUTING FEDERAL CRIMES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, YOU KNOW, OF CONTINUED POSSESSION OF WEAPONS, RIGHT. 
          UM, AFTER A LOCAL, UH, PROTECTIVE ORDER HAS BEEN ISSUED. 
          SO IT TURNS OUT THAT THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME, AND THAT A LOT OF US ATTORNEYS DON'T KNOW THAT, AND THEY DON'T, THAT THAT'S NOT SORT OF HIGH ON THEIR PRIORITY. 
          AND SO I THINK IF WE HAVE ALL OF OUR LOCALS, YOU KNOW, LEAN ON OUR, UH, US ATTORNEY HERE TO EMPHASIZE HOW IMPORTANT THE PROBLEM THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO ELEVATE THIS UP, THAT'D BE YEAH. 
          I'VE CONVEYED THAT, UH, UH, TO OUR FOLKS HERE AS PART OF THE COMMISSION WHEN UPON OUR RETURN. 
          AND YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          WHAT, WHAT ESSENTIALLY IS, IS THERE'S A FEDERAL LAW THAT SAYS IF YOU HAVE A WEAPON AFTER BEING, UH, CHARGED WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, NOT SURE IF IT'S CHARGED OR CONVICTED, UM, THAT IT, YOU, IT'S A 18 TO 24 MONTH JAIL SENTENCE. 
          AND THE ARGUMENT THE D O J MADE WAS THAT VERY OFTEN IS THAT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VICTIM OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO GET THE SPACE THEY NEED TO GET HELP AND MOVE ON WITH THEIR LIVES. 
          UM, IF YOU RECALL, ONE OF THE STRATEGIES IN THE CONFERENCE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PLAN WAS THAT THE STEP THAT COMES BEFORE THAT, WHICH IS MAKING SURE THAT ONCE A, AN ACCUSED, UH, OFFENDER HAS LEFT THE COURTROOM, THAT THERE IS A FOLLOW-UP PROCESS TO GO TO THE HOME AND SEIZE THE WEAPONS. 
          RIGHT NOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S MORE OF A HONOR SYSTEM WHERE THE JUDGE TELLS THE PERSON THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT, BUT THERE'S NOT A PROCESS FOR SOMEBODY GOING IN AND SECURING THEM. 
          SO I, I THINK THEY'RE 
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MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, IS MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          AND THE CONNECTION THEN WITH THE FEDERAL, THE US ATTORNEY, TO BE ABLE TO LAYER ON CHARGES WHEN THERE ARE VIOLATIONS, UH, IS AN OBVIOUS NEXT STEP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UH, ALSO THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FOR THE WINNING GRANTS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE DO WITH OTHER GRANTS, UM, THAT WE DON'T, THAT WE'RE CHASING OR THAT WE DON'T GET? UM, AND SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 
          THIS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS BUILD GRANT, RIGHT? UM, WE DIDN'T GET THAT. 
          AND SO WOULD WE PULL THE FIVE WINNING GRANTS AND GO LOOK AT THOSE TO INFORM OUR DECISION NEXT YEAR? WE COULD, UH, IN RECENT PAST, I DON'T RECALL US DOING IT WITH OTHER GRANT, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL FOR, BUT IT'S THE PROCESS THE FEDS HAVE AT EVERY AGENCY. 
          SO WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, EXECUTE THAT ACTION ITEM WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BILL, D O T GRANT, MR. CHAIRMAN I WAS TALKING TO, EXCUSE ME. 
          I WAS TALKING TO JEFF, UH, MENTIONED IN THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT. 
          WE NEED TO PROACTIVELY GET ALL THE GRANTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, ANALYZE THOSE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S MISSING IN OUR GRANT APPLICATION OF ANYTHING. 
          UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT ON AND DO THAT. 
          AND THEN, UM, ALSO, UM, THIS UHHON DELL DAWSON PERSON THAT WE MET WITH JUST, UH, ENDLESS TROVE OF, UH, OF INFORMATION, REALLY JUST THIS VERY IMPRESSIVE. 
          I MEAN, YOU'RE IMPRESSIVE, BUT YOU AIN'T NO SEANDELL D NO, I'M KIDDING. 
          I'M KIDDING. 
          UH, THE, UH, NO, SHE WAS AMAZING, RIGHT? SHE'S, SHE, SHE'S, UM, THE, UH, UH, WE HAVE, UM, I DO THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY GET CLOSER TO MS. DAWSON ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, AND HELP HER UNDERSTAND THE SAN ANTONIO STORY, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, TO WHATEVER EXTENT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, INVITE THEM SEPARATELY, THAT TEAM SEPARATELY TO COME AND VISIT OUR FACILITIES AND, UM, UNDERSTAND US. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, I, I'D WELCOME THAT. 
          AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, IS THIS BOARD, UH, THAT IS GONNA BE MEETING, UM, HERE DURING N L C, IS THAT THE KIND OF THING WHERE YOU WOULD WANT SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE TO GO AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO THIS BOARD? IF THEY'RE LISTENING, THEN, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT FOLKS TO MY RIGHT AND MY LEFT HERE WHO ARE REALLY GOOD AT BEING HEARD. 
          THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          EDWARD, DO YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT? SURE, YES. 
          SO THE MEETING WILL BE AT FOOD BANK, UH, NEXT TUESDAY, UH, FROM NINE TO 12. 
          SO I THINK, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE INVITE YOU ALL TO, TO BE PART OF THAT AND REALLY ADVOCATING FOR THE, FOR, FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDED. 
          SO ULTIMATELY, I JUST WANNA REITERATE, KIND OF THE, THE ISSUE IS WE REALLY CAUGHT IN KIND OF A, A CIRCUMSTANCE OF TIMING, RIGHT? SO WE WERE PROACTIVE IN, IN BUILDING THE RESPONSE, BUILDING THE PARTNERS, UH, AND WE REALLY ONE ELIGIBILITY GUIDELINE OF, OF BASICALLY SAYING, YOU CANNOT PAY OR REIMBURSE VENDORS FOR, UH, SERVICES THAT CONSIDERED THE FOOD BANK AND, UH, TRAVIS PARK, AS WELL AS THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES, OUR VENDORS. 
          UH, SO WE COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T REIMBURSE, WE COULDN'T BE REIMBURSED FOR FUNDING THAT WE PROVIDED THEM TO QUICKLY REACT TO, TO, TO THE ISSUE. 
          AND THEN, UH, SUBSEQUENTLY WE SAID, OKAY, THAT'S FINE. 
          WE'LL JUST HAVE THEM, UH, APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE THEMSELVES. 
          AND ANOTHER ELIGIBILITY ISSUE CAN CAUSE THE, A SECOND ISSUE, UH, OF, IF YOU'RE ALREADY REIMBURSED, YOU CAN'T ASK FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE FEDS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE, THE, THE BASIC PREMISE OF WHAT, WHERE WE'RE, WHY, WHY WE'RE STUCK, IT, IT HURTS OUR, OUR COLLABORATIVE, UM, UH, NATURE OF, OF HOW WE DO PROJECTS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO I THINK, UH, I OBVIOUSLY INVITE YOU TO BE PART OF THAT, AND I'LL BE THERE, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, OUR PARTNERS. 
          SO, UH, OUR PARTNERS IN THE COALITION WILL BE THERE AS WELL, AND WHAT WE WILL ADVOCATE FOR, FOR THAT FUNDING. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR, FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          SO I GUESS I'M, I DID A BAD JOB AT, AT EXPRESSING WHAT IT IS I WANT. 
          UM, I, I, I REALLY DO WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN RECRUIT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE THERE. 
          UM, AND THAT RECRUITMENT, YOU KNOW, ARM, ARM US WITH TALKING POINTS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SAYING WHAT WE NEED TO SAY. 
          UM, JUST BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE'S AN EFFECTIVE STORY FOR US TO TELL. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          I'D BE HAPPY. 
          OH, I'D BE HAPPY TO GO. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          UH, SO WE, I MIGHT SUGGEST CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANNA SIGN ONE OR TWO, THAT'S PROBABLY THE RIGHT. 
          THAT WAY WE DON'T GET IN ANY QUORUM ISSUES OF HAVING A MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          IT'S NOT A PUBLIC MEETING PER SE, AS IT IS A BUSINESS MEETING. 
          SO, SO WE, WE KNOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN, UH, ADRIANA ROCHA DID A GREAT JOB AT THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE DOING EXACTLY THAT, RIGHT? AND I GOTTA SEE MY PARTNER, UH, COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL AT, UH, ASKING FOR A BILLION DOLLARS FOR, UH, OUR 1604, UH, I 10 RIGHT. 
          EXTENSION. 
          AND SO, UM, I, I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO, UM, WOULD BE, UH, WOULD BE IDEAL. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. 
          AND, UH, I THINK THAT THAT TAKES US TO OUR NEXT ITEM, RIGHT? UNLESS I, YOU KNOW, I SKIPPED OVER YOU, FORGIVE ME. 
          UH, NO, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SIT IN, 'CAUSE THE FOOD BANK'S IN MY DISTRICT, AND I REALLY WANT TO, UM, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT I'M JUST LISTENING THOUGH. 
          I'LL JUST GO TO, WELL 
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DROP IN. 
          YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL TALKER, SO I, ALRIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S OKAY. 
          SO GET THIS LADY SOME TALKING POINTS. 
          REALLY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          WHAT, THANK YOU. 
          WHAT, WHAT WE WILL DO IS I WILL COORDINATE WITH EDWARD. 
          WE WILL PUT TOGETHER A BRIEFING PACKET, UM, WITH THE RECOMMENDED SPEAKING POINTS. 
          AND I WILL SEND YOU A MEETING INVITE SO THAT IT'S ON YOUR CALENDAR. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE TO MEET, TO PREP, CONGRESSMAN COYAR WILL BE THERE. 
          THAT'S THE LAST I HEARD, AND HE WILL BE LEADING THE DISCUSSION WITH THE NATIONAL BOARD AND THE LOCAL STAKEHOLDER. 
          SO, WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE PREPPED. 
          NEXT TOPIC, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, YES, IF YOU WILL INDULGE ME. 
          I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE JASMINE RODRIGUEZ WITH CONGRESSMAN, UH, CASTRO. 
          JASMINE WAS THE COORDINATOR FOR OUR SUMMER PANEL THAT CONGRESSMAN DOGGETT AND CONGRESSMAN CASTRO HELD ON THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UM, AT THE SOUTH TOWN CHURCH. 
          AND, UM, IT WAS WITH HER ASSISTANCE THAT SHE IDENTIFIED THE FORECAST FOR THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES GRANTS LAST WEEK. 
          UM, I MET WITH JASMINE AND HER CHIEF OF STAFF, BEN THOMAS. 
          HE WAS IN TOWN FROM WASHINGTON, D C SO THEY'RE ALWAYS, UH, VERY ACCESSIBLE AND VERY HIGHLY HELPFUL. 
          UM, AND I'M GONNA PUT JASMINE, UM, HERE, UH, ON THE POINT AND SAY THAT SHE AGREED TO CONTINUOUSLY SEARCH FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATED GRANTS. 
          SO, UM, I WANTED JUST TO THANK HER PUBLICLY FOR AGREEING AND OFFERING TO DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU, JASMINE. 
          ALRIGHT, JEFF, WHAT DO YOU GOT? NEXT 
          [4. 19-8435 A briefing and possible action on renewal of Interlocal Agreement
between the City of San Antonio and the twelve school districts within
its boundaries. [Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Michael
Shannon, Director, Development Services]]
ITEM IS MIKE SHANNON, UH, WITH A RENEWAL OF VOTE RENEWAL, UH, OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS REGARDING CONSTRUCTION OF SCHOOLS. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN, UM, COUNCILWOMAN. 
          SO I'M JUST GONNA TALK TODAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND ACTUALLY ARE PLANNING TO RENEW, UH, WITH OUR, UH, PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS HERE IN TOWN. 
          SO I WILL KIND OF QUICKLY GO THROUGH IT. 
          SO, UH, THIS PUBLIC, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 15 YEARS, 2004. 
          UH, THE PURPOSE IS TO STREAMLINE THE DEVELOPMENT, PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES RELATED TO SCHOOL PROJECTS. 
          THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT WE PARTNER WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THEIR, AND THEIR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TO GET KIDS IN SCHOOL ON TIME ABOUT OCTO, UH, AUGUST 15TH EVERY YEAR. 
          UH, AND WE'VE HAD ABOUT $8 BILLION OF, UH, SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION HERE IN TOWN, UH, IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA IN THE LAST 15 YEARS. 
          THOSE ARE THE, UM, $800 MILLION, UH, NORTH SIDE BONDS, UH, THAT WAS PASSED A YEAR AGO. 
          UH, $500 MILLION, UH, FROM NORTHEAST SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          $400 MILLION, UH, IN CHUNKS LIKE THAT, BUT $8 BILLION. 
          SO FOR 15 YEARS WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THIS INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT. 
          THERE'S 12 EDUCATION DISTRICTS. 
          11 OF THEM ARE, UH, KIND OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, UH, K THROUGH 12, AND THEN A C C D ALAMO COLLEGE DISTRICT. 
          SO WHY WE'RE HERE IS, UH, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, REVIEWING THIS, WE ACTUALLY HAD A 10 YEAR AGREEMENT. 
          IT'S A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR EVERY 10 YEARS. 
          SO SINCE 2009 WAS THE SECOND ITERATION OF IT, AND IT HAS EXPIRED, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY STILL UTILIZING IT AS WE'RE FINALIZING THE DETAILS OF THE UPDATE. 
          UH, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CITY DEPARTMENTS, NOT ONLY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, T C I, UH, AND OTHERS, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE, UH, DOCUMENT THE AGREEMENT AND UPDATE IT ACCORDINGLY. 
          SOME KEY ITEMS IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT MAKES THIS PARTNERSHIP SO GREAT IS, UM, ARE LISTED HERE. 
          SO FIRST, UH, WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, OUR TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE. 
          SO SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THEY HAVE TO MEET THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE. 
          HOWEVER, THE EXPANSION OR RENOVATION OF SCHOOLS, SOMETIMES WE RUN INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGES, WHETHER IT BE PARKING LOT SHADING, SECURITY CAMERAS ON CAMPUS THAT MIGHT BE OBSTRUCTED BY A TREE OR THIS. 
          SO WE HAVE SOME BALANCED LANGUAGE THAT WE INCLUDE THERE. 
          SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ALSO HAVE SOME TREE CREDITS, WHICH WERE ESTABLISHED IN OUR FIRST TREE ORDINANCE IN 1997. 
          SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ADDING SOME LANGUAGE TO CLARIFY HOW TO USE THEM. 
          UH, THEY CAN USE THEM WHEN THERE'S A HARDSHIP ON AN EXISTING SCHOOL AND, AND WE CAN GET THOSE CREDITS TO GET THAT SCHOOL PROJECT MOVING. 
          WE ALSO ARE WORKING WITH THEM ON THE DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR SCHOOL PROJECTS. 
          SO FOR 15 YEARS, UM, THE, THE SCHOOLS WITHIN FOUR 10, SO THE INNER CITY SCHOOLS, SO MOSTLY SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEY HAVE A SPECIAL, UH, AGREEMENT THROUGH THIS THAT THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY PAY INTO, UH, THE FEE IN LIEU OF, UH, UH, FUND SO THAT THE CITY WILL TAKE THAT MONEY AND IMPROVE, UH, DRAINAGE PROJECTS, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, THEIR AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S WORKED, UH, PRETTY GOOD. 
          UH, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH T C I AND ALL THE DRAINAGE DATA THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN HEARING. 
          UH, WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT MODIFYING THAT LANGUAGE. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THOSE ENGINEERING STUDIES SO THAT WE WILL KNOW THE EXACT IMPACT OF AN ADDITION TO A SCHOOL, EVEN IF IT'S INSIDE FOUR 10, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE ANY EXISTING DRAINAGE CONDITIONS OR IMPACTED AREAS. 
          SO THAT LANGUAGE, UM, IS ALMOST 
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FINAL. 
          WE HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, ONE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SAN ANTONIO, EVEN YESTERDAY. 
          UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S A REAL IMPORTANT ISSUE. 
          YOU THINK OF THOSE SCHOOL PROJECTS INSIDE FOUR 10, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SOMEWHAT LANDLOCKED, RIGHT? SO THEY ARE, UH, THEY HAVE EXTREME GROWTH, BUT THEIR CAMPUSES ARE FINITE. 
          UH, SO IT'S A REAL, UH, THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH T C I, UH, TRY TO COME UP WITH LANGUAGE TO ENSURE THAT THEIR PROJECTS, UH, MEET OUR DRAINAGE RULES AND CRITERIA. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          SO, UH, THE I L A ALSO DICTATES THAT WE HAVE A DEDICATED SCHOOL PLAN REVIEW AND PERMITTING TEAM, UH, INSIDE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          SO WE HAVE HAD THAT FOR 15 YEARS. 
          AND I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S BEEN THE SINGLE MOST EFFECTIVE, UH, PIECE OF THE I L A ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO REVIEWING AND INSPECTING SCHOOLS ALMOST ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. 
          THEY BECOME EXPERTS AND THEY MEET WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES AND THEIR DESIGN TEAMS AT THE VERY PRELIMINARY STAGE ALL THE WAY TO WHEN THE SCHOOL HAS OPENED UP. 
          I HAVE TWO TEAM MEMBERS HERE TODAY, UH, CRYSTAL GONZALEZ AND STEVE, UH, STOKING. 
          I KEEP KIND OF HIDDEN BEHIND THE COLUMN, UH, BUT THEY ACTUALLY LEAD THAT, UH, TEAM FOR US. 
          JAKE POWELL WAS HERE TOO, FROM T C I WORKING WITH THE GREAT DRAINAGE STUFF. 
          SO HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB AS WELL. 
          UH, WE ACTUALLY, THE I L A DICTATES THAT WE WORK TOGETHER THROUGH MASTER PLANNING. 
          SO SCHOOLS ACTUALLY, THEY DO A LOT OF PLANNING TO GET READY FOR THEIR BONDS. 
          SO WE'RE ACTUALLY INVOLVED WITH THAT, WITH THEM SO THAT WE CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY AND STREAMLINE THEIR PROCESS SO THAT THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          SO A COUPLE OF THE OTHER ONES, UH, THAT ARE IN THE I L A, UH, SPECIFICALLY STREET CUTS. 
          UH, SO IF WE HAVE, UH, SOME CONSTRUCTION WHERE THEY HAVE TO CUT INTO A FAIRLY DECENT STREET THAT HAS A PRETTY GOOD GRADE, THERE'S A DEFINED HOW TO REPAIR IT. 
          THERE'S NOT GUESSING ON HOW TO REPAIR THAT STREET TO ENSURE THAT THEY DON'T, UM, IMPROPERLY JUST CREATE THESE, UH, THESE, UH, BAD CUTS THAT, THAT DAMAGE THE STREET FOR A LONG TIME. 
          SO THAT'S BEEN REAL IMPORTANT. 
          UH, WE CLEARLY DEFINE WHEN THEY HAVE TO UPGRADE SIDEWALKS. 
          SO FOR RENOVATION PROJECTS, OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE CALLS OUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO UPGRADE THE SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION TO MEET CURRENT A D A STANDARDS. 
          YOU CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTRUCTION, UH, BUT ONCE THAT BECOMES MORE THAN 35% OF THE CONSTRUCTION OR VALUATION COST OF THE PROJECT, THEY HAVE TO CREATE NEW SIDEWALKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET ALL THE A D A CURRENT RULES, THE PARKING SPACES BY CAMPUS TYPE, IT'S REAL IMPORTANT. 
          AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DOES NOT NEED AS MANY, UH, SPACES AS A MIDDLE SCHOOL, AS A HIGH SCHOOL. 
          SO WE CLEARLY DEFINE THAT SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION. 
          AND THEN, UH, HERE'S A KEY ONE THAT WE'RE ADDING THIS YEAR. 
          SO I'VE HAD A A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THEM. 
          SO EVERY TIME THEY GO TO AND HAVE A FIVE YEAR BOND TO SAY THEY'RE GONNA BUILD ALL THESE NEW SCHOOLS, THEY DO THAT WITH ESTIMATES BASED ON TODAY'S BUILDING RELATED CODES. 
          AND THAT'S A PUBLIC VOTE. 
          SO THE QUESTION IS, IF WE CHOOSE, THE CITY CHOOSES TO ADOPT A NEWER VERSION OF THE BUILDING CODES, THAT COST OF CONSTRUCTION, THE VOTERS HADN'T REALLY VOTED ON THAT FOR THAT PUBLIC BOND IN THAT ESTIMATE. 
          SO I BELIEVE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW THEM TO UTILIZE ONE VERSION BACK, WHETHER IT'S THE 2018 VERSION OF THE 2015 VERSION OF THE CODES. 
          UH, SO WE BELIEVE THAT'S APPROPRIATE SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE THAT PROJECT SUCCESSFULLY. 
          NOW, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO BACK 10 YEARS OR 15 YEARS. 
          THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE UNREASONABLE. 
          UH, BUT THIS CLARIFIES THAT TO ENSURE THEIR PROJECTS, UM, STAY ON TRACK. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UM, A FEW OTHERS, THE DISTRICT AGREES, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AGREE TO, UH, TO PARTICIPATE WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES AROUND EXISTING SCHOOLS. 
          SO AS THEY'RE MODIFYING IT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADDING, UH, FLASHERS AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUES AT THEIR SCHOOL. 
          UH, SO THAT'S CLARIFIED IN THE AGREEMENT. 
          THEY ACTUALLY AGREE, UH, I THINK EDWARD LEFT, UH, BUT THEY DO PARTICIPATE. 
          A LOT OF THEM PARTICIPATE IN THE AFTERSCHOOL CHALLENGE PROGRAM WITH D H S. 
          SO THEY, THEY AGREED TO PROVIDE EQUAL FUNDING TO THAT. 
          IN THIS I L A, UH, THE DISTRICT, UH, AUTOMATICALLY PROVIDE, UH, UH, FACILITIES FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR POLLING SITES. 
          SO THAT'S CLARIFIED. 
          AND THEN, UH, PORTABLE CLASSROOM BUILDINGS, WE EXPEDITE THE PROCEDURES ON HOW THEY CAN DO THAT SAFELY. 
          SO IN SUMMARY, I'LL JUST SAY THIS IS, UH, I THINK ONE OF THE BEST PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WITH, UH, A STAKEHOLDER GROUP. 
          SO IT'S AN EXCELLENT PARTNERSHIP, UH, TO ENSURE KIDS GET ON, UH, IN SCHOOL ON TIME AND RENOVATE OR NEW CAMPUSES. 
          IT STREAMLINES THE PROCESS AND IT, AND IT REALLY JUST HELPS, UH, OUR OVERALL COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION WILL BE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. 
          NOW, UM, TODAY WE'RE STILL FINE TUNING A FEW LITTLE BIT OF THE LANGUAGE ON A COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS. SO, UM, I WOULD ASK, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UH, WE COME BACK WITH THE FULL LANGUAGE TO YOU AT A, AT A AT A FUTURE MEETING NEXT MONTH OR JANUARY. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, SHOW YOU ALL THE, THE, THE DOCUMENT, OR WE COULD YOU GIVE US DIRECTION JUST TO FINE TUNE THOSE AND WE CAN GO TO, UM, FULL COUNSEL. 
          UH, BUT IT WOULD BE IN JANUARY SOMETIME, AND IT WILL AGAIN BE A, UH, 10 YEAR AGREEMENT, ONE YEAR WITH AUTOMATIC RENEWALS UP TO 10 YEARS. 
          A QUESTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. 
          UM, THANK YOU MIKE. 
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UM, I THINK BEFORE I MAKE A CALL ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE FINE TUNING. 
          SURE. 
          SO THE, UH, THE, THE LAST ITEM THAT'S STILL BEING REVIEWED, UH, AGAIN, WE HAD A MEETING WITH SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT YESTERDAY. 
          THEY'RE THE MOST AFFECTED GROUP OF THE INSIDE FOUR 10 PROJECTS. 
          SO THEY HAVE A $400 MILLION BOND THAT THEY'RE, UM, ACTUALLY FINISHING UP. 
          THERE'S TALK OF THEM GOING TO THE VOTERS IN 2020 FOR ANOTHER PROBABLY OF A SIMILAR, MAYBE EVEN MORE, UH, SIZED BOND. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION, S A S D. 
          SO THE QUESTION THAT THEY'RE HAVING WITH OUR T C I COUNTERPARTS, NEFI, GAR, UH, GARZA, AND, AND, AND ALL OF OUR DRAINAGE ISSUES IS JUST PAYING THE FILO FEE AND MOVING ON WITH THEIR PROJECT IS MAYBE NOT APPROPRIATE ANYMORE. 
          UH, BECAUSE YES, THEY GIVE US MONEY TO GO FIX PROJECTS, BUT IT'S VERY REACTIVE, MEANING THE PROJECT GETS BUILT AND WE GET MORE CALLS FOR 3 1 1 ON DRAINAGE ISSUES, AND THEN WE USE THAT MONEY TO GO FIX IT. 
          WHAT, WHAT T C I IS REALLY LOOKING FOR IN THE LANGUAGE NOW IS BEING UPDATED, IS THAT THE, THE CITY NEEDS THEM TO PRODUCE THOSE ENGINEERING STUDIES MORE SO THAN THE FUNDING TO PUT IN A POT OF MONEY THAT MAY GO TO THAT AREA. 
          SO, UH, THE REQUIREMENT NOW WILL BE TO DO THOSE ENGINEERING STUDIES AND WHERE THERE IS AN IMPACT TO COLLABORATE WITH T C I AND OUR BOND PROGRAMS, THEIR BOND PROGRAMS AND SUCH, TO FIX THOSE ACUTE AREAS OF NEED IN AND AROUND THAT PROJECT, WITHIN THAT WATERSHED OR WITHIN THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          SO THAT LANGUAGE, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD IT NOW FOR A LITTLE WHILE. 
          SAN ANTONIO CAME IN, UH, WITH THEIR CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, THEIR HEAD OF CONSTRUCTION ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT CAME IN AND HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. 
          SO THEY'RE REVIEWING IT ONE MORE TIME, AND I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SHOWING IT TO YOU YET BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE REALLY AGREED TO IT YET. 
          UH, WE'RE STILL, WE, WE THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD. 
          WE THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD IMPROVEMENT FROM THE LAST 15 YEARS. 
          UM, BUT, SO I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT IT'S ALL BEEN IRONED OUT YET. 
          WE, WE THOUGHT IT WAS, BUT THEN THEY ASKED FOR KIND OF A LATE, LATE MINUTE MEETING, WHICH IS FINE. 
          THAT'S THE PROCESS. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO, UH, FIRST I, I WANNA THANK YOU, UM, NEPHI, UM, AND ROD FOR THE WORK ON THIS, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU FOLKS, BUT I'VE BEEN BRIEFED A COUPLE OF TIMES ON THIS PARTICULAR I L A. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT BEING, UH, HAVING SS A I SS D IN MY SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, AND HAVING THEM BE WAIVED FROM THE REQUIREMENTS WAS ACTUALLY CREATING A LOT OF ISSUES FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN, IN DISTRICT SEVEN OVER THE YEARS, SINCE 2004 OR EARLIER. 
          UM, I HAVE A, A MAP HERE THAT SHOWS, UH, A CONCENTRATION OF THIS IS JUST FOR SHOW CONCENTRATION OF FLOODPLAINS, UH, INSIDE, UH, FOUR 10. 
          AND THE, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE THE, THE BIGGEST NUMBER ARE INSIDE DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          SO WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH A CAMPUS WASN'T EXPANDING PER SE, BECAUSE THEY'RE LANDLOCKED, THEY MIGHT BE STILL BE ADDING PAVEMENT OR GROWING UP OR MODIFYING THEMSELVES. 
          AND THEY DO THAT A LOT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GROWING AT THE SAME LEVEL AS N I S D. 
          AND WHAT WE WOULD END UP HA, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS YOU HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT IMPACTS THAT WOULD HAVE ON THE WATERSHED. 
          SO WE COULDN'T PREPARE, WE COULDN'T MITIGATE THOSE IMPACTS. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONCE THE PROJECTS WERE ALL SAID AND DONE, WE'D HAVE, UM, NEW FLOODING PROBLEMS IN, UH, OUR DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THE AREAS AROUND THERE. 
          AND, UH, THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE TO FIX. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO, THEY ARE STILL, UH, IN QUEUE RIGHT? FOR GETTING THAT RESOLVED BY T C I OR WAITING UNTIL THE NEXT BOND OR THE NEXT BOND, UH, TO GET IT DONE. 
          AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS A GUARANTEE. 
          UM, AND EVEN IF IT IS DONE IN THE BOND, UH, WE ARE PAYING, RIGHT? THE, THE CITY IS PAYING MUCH MORE THAN, UH, WE WOULD HAVE OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD HAVE FOR MODIFYING THE DESIGN, UH, A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS ALMOST LIKE THAT EDWARDS AQUIFER THING, RIGHT? IT'S JUST KNOWING IN ADVANCE WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE GONNA BE, WILL HELP US DEVELOP A MUCH BETTER PROJECT. 
          SO, UM, TO ME, THIS IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE, IN THE I L A, UM, IS MAKING SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING TO OUR WATERSHED, ESPECIALLY IN THESE AREAS THAT ARE IN, UH, THE FLOODPLAIN AND, UH, AND JUST GET SUCH SEVERE IMPACTS FROM ANY DEVELOPMENT, UH, INCLUDING, UH, IN INCLUDING SCHOOL, UH, DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH, WITH THE COMMITTEE AND, AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT, THAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          AND, UH, THANK YOU MIKE FOR THAT PRESENTATION. 
          AND I FIRST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR, UM, ALLOWING THE U D C CODE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED TO BE USED FOR, UM, SOME OF THESE BOND PROJECTS. 
          I CO-CHAIRED A $75 MILLION BOND FOR SOUTHWEST I S D RECENTLY, AND SO I CAN SEE HOW IMPORTANT 
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THAT IS. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. 
          I WAS, THAT, THAT, THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UM, ALSO ON THOSE PARKING SPACES, DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR LIKE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL? AND ARE WE ALSO CONSIDERING, I'M, I'M JUST ASSUMING LIKE, UH, WHEN KIDS HAVE PERFORMANCES OR BECAUSE IN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THEY HAVE LIKE A PERFORMANCE EVERY MONTH. 
          AND SO I KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE THOSE PARKING SPOTS ALWAYS, BUT WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC, UH, IMPACT DO WE CAUSE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IF WE DON'T ALLOW FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SPACES, LIKE DURING THOSE THINGS? SURE. 
          SO OUR, OUR TYPICAL CODE HAS A MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES FOR EACH PROJECT. 
          GENERALLY WHAT WE SAY, WE NEED TO LEASE THIS MUCH, BUT DON'T, DON'T BE BUILDING FIELDS OF CONCRETE PARKING SPACES JUST FOR FUN. 
          NOT THAT THEY WOULD, BUT THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. 
          UM, BUT WE ACTUALLY CLARIFIED AND WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT THE, IT'S REALLY THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT, THOSE NUMBERS, UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM OVER THE YEARS. 
          SO FOR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT IS 2 75, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS 400, AND A HIGH SCHOOL IS 1275. 
          UH, THE MINIMUMS, OF COURSE, ARE A LOT LESS. 
          SO AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN THAT RANGE, UM, IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT'S PER CLASSROOM, YOU KNOW, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, YES, WE DO, IF THEY'RE HAVING FUNCTIONS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IF THEY HAVE A, A CAFETERIA, UH, MULTI-USE SPACE AND STUFF, THAT GETS CALCULATED AS WELL. 
          BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAD THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MAXIMUMS THAT THEY NEEDED WITHOUT HURTING THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, SO THAT'S WHY THEY NEEDED SOME, A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE NUMBERS. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST, JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE HAVE I HEARD THAT FROM RESIDENTS, RIGHT? AND OH, EVERY TIME THAT THERE'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH. 
          SO, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. 
          YEP. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO WHAT IS THE LIMITATION OR OF, OF ITEMS THAT WE CAN, UH, FUND SPECIFICALLY FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES? LIKE I'M LOOKING ABOUT, UM, AT THE HAWK, THE HAWKS, RIGHT? THE HAWK BEACONS. 
          AND SO WOULD WE BE ABLE TO, IS THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T FUND? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT THE DISTRICT'S PARTICIPATION LEVEL IS AND LIKE ASKING FOR HO BEACON. 
          SURE. 
          SO, UH, IT, THE, THE, THE AGREEMENT ACTUALLY SAYS ANY TRAFFIC SIGNAL. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF A WIDE NET, BUT WHAT WE REALLY ARE LOOKING AT, UH, SCHOOL TRAFFIC SIGNALS KIND OF A WIDE VARIETY. 
          SO SOME OF THOSE, UH, OR A SCHOOL ZONE PEDESTRIAN CAUTION WARNING FLASHERS, RIGHT? SO THOSE ARE, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT AND, UH, WORKING WITH ART REINHARDT AND HIS TEAM AND T C I AND THE TRAFFIC, SO AS THEY'RE MODIFYING NOT ONLY BUILDING SCHOOLS, BUT MODIFYING THOSE TRAFFIC STUDIES TELL US NOT ONLY WHERE THE CARS ARE COMING IN AND OUT, BUT WHERE THE, WHERE THE CROSSWALKS ARE GONNA BE. 
          SO THOSE TYPE OF DEVICES, REALLY, THOSE ARE SPELLED OUT IN THE AGREEMENT AND WE'LL CERTAINLY GIVE YOU THE COPY OF THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE, BUT ALL OF THAT IS ON THE TABLE NOW. 
          WHAT IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT IS THAT THE CITY, AGAIN, THIS WHOLE THING IS ABOUT PARTNERSHIP. 
          THE CITY, UH, DEPENDING UPON WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HOW MUCH IMPACT THEY'RE HAVING, THE CITY, UH, CAN ACTUALLY WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SOME FUNDING UP TO 50%. 
          UH, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S NOT JUST THE SCHOOL, SOMETIMES IT'S OTHER ISSUES IN AND AROUND THAT INTERSECTION. 
          SO THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH OUR T C I IF THERE'S AVAILABLE FUNDING IN THAT YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, TO GET SOME REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT. 
          SO IT REALLY DEFINES A GOOD PARTNERSHIP, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEVICES LIKE THAT. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN MY OTHER ITEM, YOU MENTIONED EQUAL FUNDING AND UM, SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, ARE WE APPLYING LIKE AN EQUITY PERSPECTIVE AS WELL TO, TO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN, IN YOUR AREA SPECIFICALLY FOR SCHOOL ZONES, OR IS THERE ALSO SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS? I HAD A SCHOOL DISTRICT IN, IN MY AREA THAT OPENED UP THREE SCHOOLS WITHIN A FEW MONTHS. 
          AND SO THERE WAS NO BUDGET ALLOCATED FOR CROSS, UH, GUARDS, IF YOU WILL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THE PARENTS WERE CONCERNED AND, AND I HAD THE SCHOOL BOARD REACH OUT AS WELL. 
          AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING INTO THIS WHOLE EQUAL FUNDING APPROACH THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          SURE. 
          UH, WELL, THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS I, YES, WE DO LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE DO WITH EQUITY, UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NOT AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT. 
          SO I'LL JUST CAVEAT THAT BY, I THINK THAT'S, UH, THE, THE GENERAL STATEMENT. 
          SO THE AFTERSCHOOL CHALLENGE PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN IN THERE FOR 10 YEARS, AND I KNOW IT'S STILL GOING. 
          AGAIN, I WAS TALKING TO EDWARD EARLIER. 
          THIS JUST SAYS, THIS AGREEMENT SAYS THAT IF YOU PARTICIPATE, IF YOU'RE A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT PARTICIPATES, YOU'LL, YOU AGREE TO PROVIDE EQUAL FUNDING. 
          SO WHATEVER IT COSTS, YOU'RE GONNA PUT UP HALF, WE'LL PUT UP HALF AND, AND JUST MOVE FORWARD LIKE THAT. 
          NOW, IT DOESN'T GO INTO DETAILS OF CROSSWALK, UM, CROSS GUARDS, STAFFING, CROSS GUARDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          UH, I COULD CHECK WITH EDWARD BECAUSE THERE ARE USUALLY ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC AGREEMENTS FOR EACH AND EVERY PROGRAM AS SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          BUT WE COULD, I COULD LOOK INTO THAT. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          BECAUSE PT HAD TOLD ME ORIGINALLY, OH, WELL WE CAN'T, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT BUDGETED. 
          THEN I VOLUNTEERED TO GO AND CROSS THE KIDS MYSELF AND THEN THEY FOUND SOME FUNDING. 
          UH, AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY ELSE DOESN'T EXPERIENCE THAT IN THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          SURE. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE LAST POINT IS THE FACILITIES FOR, UM, POLLING. 
          I KNOW, AND I, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT I HAVE HAD SEVERAL 
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RESIDENTS, UM, ASK ABOUT RESTROOM USE SPECIFICALLY AT THESE FACILITIES BECAUSE THE FACILITIES ARE OPEN AND AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS WHO ARE VOTING, BUT THEY CAN'T USE THE RESTROOM OR EVEN THE FOLKS THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING ON CAMPAIGNS AND THEY JUST CAN'T USE A RESTROOM. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DO, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER SOME CONVERSATION. 
          I'M SURE THERE'S SOME REASON WHY THE RESTROOMS ARE CLOSE. 
          MAYBE IT'S ACCESS, BUT MAYBE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK INTO THAT. 
          SO I JUST, I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          SURE. 
          I'LL, I'LL, UH, I'LL TRY TO GET THE ANSWER FOR THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I'LL FIND OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL. 
          UM, FROM MY DISCUSSION WITH SOME, UH, WITH SOME POLL WORKERS, UH, THERE HAD BEEN DISTRIBUTION OF MATERIALS IN THE BATHROOMS, UM, POLLING, UH, ELECTION MATERIALS IN THE BATHROOM. 
          SO I THINK, UM, IT MAKES SENSE TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO, TO PEOPLE, BUT I THINK, UH, WE JUST HAVE TO HELP THEM FIND A WAY NOT TO FOR THAT NOT TO HAPPEN. 
          SO THAT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFFING LEVELS FOR BEXAR COUNTY ELECTIONS. 
          AND, AND THAT WAS PROBABLY SOMETHING THEY WEREN'T PREPARED TO DO AT, AT THE TIME. 
          UM, UH, NONETHELESS, WHY, I GUESS, WHY IS THAT PART OF OUR CONTRACT, BUT NOT BEXAR COUNTY WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY, THEY ACTUALLY RUN THE ELECTIONS, NOT THE CITY. 
          WELL, THIS, THIS JUST SAYS HERE, THIS AGREEMENT HAS LANGUAGE. 
          IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S GONNA WORK WITH YOU IN PARTNERSHIP ON, I MEAN, IT'S 90% MM-HMM. 
           PERMITTING, PRELIMINARY REVIEWS, MAKING SURE THE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS IN A STREAMLINED, EFFICIENT MANNER. 
          WE WORK TOGETHER. 
          THEN THERE WAS THIS OTHER LANGUAGE THROWN IN THAT SAYS, THE CITY, THE, THE SCHOOLS AGREE TO GIVE YOU THESE, YOU KNOW, OUR CAMPUSES FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR POLLING SITES IF YOU NEED THEM. 
          AND IT WAS JUST KIND OF SAYING, YOU CAN USE OUR FACILITIES FOR CITY RELATED ITEMS. SO THERE WASN'T A REAL GOOD, UM, LENGTHY DISCUSSION WHILE IT'S MORE US THAN BEXAR COUNTY, BUT I COULD CERTAINLY, UH, INVESTIGATE THAT A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT YEAH, I KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN WE CREATED IT IN OH FOUR, UM, IT WAS REALLY JUST, THAT WAS PART OF THEIR GIVE, THAT WAS PART OF THEIR GIVE. 
          SO WE WANNA WORK TOGETHER AND EVEN IF IT'S NOT PERMITTING NEW SCHOOLS, YOU HAVE OTHER ISSUES. 
          SO WE'VE UTILIZED THAT. 
          YOU PROBABLY HAVE ALL UTILIZED THAT AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS IN THIS I L A. 
          THEY'RE JUST FRIENDLY ENOUGH TO ALLOW USE OF A ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL OR HIGH SCHOOL. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT THERE IS VERY LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS CONTRACT FOR SO LONG AND YOU'VE GOT THE AGREEMENT OF EVERYONE EXCEPT SS A I S D AND JUST ON ONE LITTLE, WELL, A BIG AREA FOR ME, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALMOST THERE. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT I, I THINK THE COUNCILWOMAN BRINGS UP A, A VERY IMPORTANT POINT IS, UH, SOMETIMES WE HAVE, WE HAVE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, UM, NOT, NOT JUST WITH THE PARKING, BUT ACTUALLY WITH THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC. 
          AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS FALLS IN YOUR AREA OR UNDER T C I, BUT AT WHAT POINT, UM, CAN WE WORK WITH SCHOOLS AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED SOME KIND OF TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR MM-HMM. 
           DROP OFFS AND FOR PICKUPS. 
          UM, IS, IS THAT ANYWHERE IN YOUR JURISDICTION? IT, IT ACTUALLY, IT, IT IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND PERMITTING, AND THEN CERTAINLY MAINTENANCE OF SCHOOLS. 
          UH, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH T C I ON THIS. 
          SO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS SOME ENGINEERS AS WELL AS T C I IN THE SAME BUILDING, UH, THAT REVIEW TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR TRAFFIC STUDIES AS THEY'RE DEVELOPING OR RENOVATING SCHOOLS. 
          AND INCLUDED WITH THAT, BECAUSE OF LESSONS LEARNED OVER THE YEARS, UM, AND WE'VE HAD SOME SCHOOLS, NEW SCHOOLS, UH, PUT ON SMALL, SMALLER THAN NORMAL SITES. 
          UH, SO THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IS PART OF THAT REVIEW AND DISCUSSION, UH, NOW, AND IT IS PART OF D S D AND TCIS REVIEW AS WE, UH, PERMIT SCHOOLS. 
          NOW, UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE SITUATIONS WHERE THE SCHOOLS OUTGROW WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY DESIGNED. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE START GETTING COMPLAINTS. 
          SO WE ALSO THEN WORK WITH T C I TO DO RESEARCH TO SAY, HEY, THIS CAMPUS WAS DESIGNED FOR 800 STUDENTS, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THE DESIGN WAS FOR THAT NUMBER OF CARS PARKING DROP OFF. 
          IF THINGS HAVE CHANGED, THEN WE HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND WE DO, WE SIT DOWN AND SAY, LET'S WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH A MODIFIED MANAGEMENT PLAN, OR DOES IT NECESSITATE, UH, ADDITIONAL RENOVATION TO FACILITATE THAT. 
          BUT, UH, SO THAT IS IN OUR HOUSE, UH, THAT'S IN OUR HOUSE AND T C I TOGETHER. 
          UH, BUT THAT WOULD, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THEY DO COME TO THE TABLE, UM, AND HELP WORK THAT OUT. 
          IT'S NOT AN EASY SOLUTION ALL THE TIME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THE SCHOOLS ARE GROWING. 
          UH, BUT WE DO HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN HERE TO, TO IMPACT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT APPROACH COULD ALSO BE USED WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE USERS THAN, THAN YOU REGULARLY EXP EXPECT, EXPECT THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ALL THE ADDITIONAL PARKING OR BUY THE ADDITIONAL LAND FOR IT, BUT, OR MAINTAIN IT. 
          UH, BUT YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF GUARD OUT THERE OR WHATEVER, PARKING ATTENDANT ASSISTING. 
          UM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN REALLY ONLY COUNT ON THAT PROCESS IF THEY'RE SEEKING SOME KIND OF PERMIT, RIGHT? OR THERE'S SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING. 
          WELL, NOT NECESSARILY, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'LL GET SOME COMPLAINTS 
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THAT, UM, I'M GIVING YOU A COMPLAINT RIGHT NOW, . 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL BE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE IT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE JOB. 
          UM, NO, WE, WE HAVE ACTUALLY GET SOME COMPLAINTS THAT SAY, GEEZ, THE TRAFFIC HAS EXPLODED. 
          IT'S BEEN OPEN FOR TWO YEARS, OR IT'S BEEN OVER FOR A LONG TIME. 
          AND WHAT WE DO IS WE REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL SAYING, AND WE RESEARCH OUR RECORDS, THE DESIGN RECORDS THAT SAY, HEY, YOU WERE DESIGNED FOR 800 STUDENTS AND, AND THAT EXAMPLE, AND WE FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE AT A THOUSAND OR 1200, WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON BECAUSE IF THESE SCHOOLS GET POPULAR OR THE GROWTH IN THAT DISTRICT, UH, THEY'RE STARTING TO USE MORE PORTABLES AND BEFORE THEY CAN BUILD ADDITIONAL, UH, SCHOOLS, UH, THIS, IT'S NOT JUST PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS WELL. 
          IT'S, UM, IT'S SOME OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT, THAT ARE BEING BUILT, THE IDEAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, WE GO BACK TO THEM AND SAY, LOOK, YOU'RE, YOU'VE, YOUR DESIGN DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE. 
          YOU HAVE TO PHYSICALLY GO DO SOMETHING. 
          SO WE, WE CAN KIND OF FORCE THE ISSUE. 
          NOW. 
          IT'S A CHALLENGING FORCE. 
          WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM. 
          UM, I HAVE YET TO, YOU KNOW, THREATEN TO SHUT DOWN A SCHOOL BECAUSE OF IT, BUT WE DO GET MEETINGS. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THE OPTIONS ARE FEW. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO HAVE A PERMIT THAT THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THE SYSTEM, THAT DOES GIVE US A LITTLE MORE LEVERAGE, RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, BUT IT IS A PARTNERSHIP ON DEALING WITH THOSE ISSUES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WELL, THANK YOU THAT THAT CLARIFIES IT. 
           ONE MORE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OH, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH. 
          OH, YEAH. 
          ASK, IS THIS AN APPROPRIATE DOCUMENT ALSO FOLD IN THEIR, UM, PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER INITIATIVES FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS? RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, LET'S ASSUME FOR A SECOND THAT WE WANTED TO PARTNER WITH EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT ON A STANDARDIZED CAMPAIGN ACROSS THE CITY FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION. 
          RIGHT? SO THAT, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, THEY, THEY'VE GOT A, THEY, THEY'VE GOT TO, YOU KNOW, PUT SOME OF OUR MATERIALS IN EVERY GIRL'S BATHROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? WHATEVER. 
          UM, BUT, UM, IS THIS THAT, IS THIS THE PLACE WHERE WE WOULD DISCUSS SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE, WE, WE COULD, WE COULD LOOK AT IT AGAIN. 
          THE, THE MEAT OF THIS WAS REALLY FOR, UM, THE PERMITTING, CONSTRUCTION, THE RENOVATION OF SCHOOLS. 
          UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE UTILIZED IT TO, TO, TO, TO, TO, TO TALK ABOUT THE AFTERSCHOOL CHALLENGE PROGRAM, THE FACILITY UTILIZATION, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          SO WE COULD, NOW, IF WE APPROVE THIS EVERY YEAR, IT'S, IT'S A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT THAT HAS AUTOMATIC 10 RENEWALS. 
          UNLESS WE INITIATE IT, WE COULD ALWAYS INITIATE ADDING SOMETHING TO IT. 
          BUT, UM, I KNOW THE SCHOOLS ARE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US IN A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANNA SLOW DOWN THIS KIND PERMITTING PIECE. 
          NO, NO. 
          AND I'M ASKING, I'M A LITTLE BIASED BECAUSE IT JUST, BECAUSE IT JUMPED OUT AT ME THAT, YOU KNOW, MIKE SHANNON'S TALKING TO ME ABOUT AFTERSCHOOL CHALLENGE PROGRAMS AND UH, YOU KNOW, AND IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IF WE'VE HUNG THAT ONE ORNAMENT OFF THIS TREE, MAYBE WE HANG OTHERS, BUT IT, I, I ALSO DON'T WANNA SLOW IT DOWN, BUT I THINK WHAT THE POINT, MAYBE THE BIG POINT HERE IS THAT YOU'VE HEARD THIS COUNCIL MM-HMM. 
           UNANIMOUSLY SAY THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCES ARE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES TO US. 
          AND I THINK THAT ALL OF US WOULD APPRECIATE SEEING CROSS POLLINATION, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ISSUE ACROSS ALL EFFORTS, WHEREVER APPROPRIATE. 
          RIGHT. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK AS WELL SAID, AND WE'LL TAKE POINT, WE'LL TAKEN, WE, I'LL TAKE THAT BACK. 
          WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT IN EVERY ENGAGEMENT WITH RIGHT. 
          PUBLIC ENTITIES, PRIVATE ENTITIES, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO, OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          EXPAND. 
          IN FACT, I JUST TALKED TO EDWARD BEFORE HE LEFT AND SAID, WE HAVE THE ALMO, DO WE HAVE THE CONVENTION CENTER? WE HAVE THE AIRPORT, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIVE  THEATER, WE HAVE RESTROOMS ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          WE, THERE'S NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANYBODY. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          WE CAN DO THAT OURSELVES. 
          SO, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THAT. 
          THE, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, IN DEALING WITH BRANDEIS HIGH SCHOOL ONE TIME, THEY WERE TELLING ME THAT WHEN THEY WERE DEALING WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT, UH, THEY WERE BEGGING FOR LIGHTS AND ALL THAT, AND THEY EVENTUALLY GOT IT. 
          AND THEY'RE VERY EXCITED THAT IN ORDER TO PROVE UP THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS, UM, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT COUNT, 'CAUSE THEY WERE HAVING A LOT OF CAR ACCIDENTS, THAT THE ONE THING YOUR DEPARTMENT WASN'T DOING OR SOMEBODY WASN'T DOING WAS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE ACCIDENTS REPORTS THAT N I S D PD WAS WRITING UP AND THAT THAT WASN'T BEING COUNTED AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, EACH ONE OF THOSE ACCIDENTS THAT WE DIDN'T TOUCH, BUT THEY DID WEREN'T BEING COUNTED. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M THROWING THAT OUT THERE. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. 
          AND, UH, YEAH, I, I WOULD GET WITH, UM, KIND OF OUR T C I COUNTER PROJECT YEAH. 
          WITHOUT REINHART AND BRING UP THAT EXAMPLE. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT WOULD BE. 
          I THINK ANY ACCIDENT IS AN ACCIDENT IS AN ACCIDENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, BUT I KNOW THEY, THEY USE THAT DATA TO HELP DETERMINE IF A SIGNAL OR SOMETHING IS WARRANTED THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS. 
          BUT I'LL CERTAINLY BRING THAT UP WITH, WITH, WITH, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THIS MIGHT BE ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY, MAYBE NOT FOR THIS AGREEMENT, BUT FOR A FUTURE ONE, RIGHT? WHERE WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STANDARDIZED REPORTING FOR CAR ACCIDENTS. 
          BECAUSE THEY WERE ALSO SAYING, WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE CAR ACCIDENT REPORTS. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S NOT IN OUR WHEELHOUSE. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE DON'T ACCEPT THEIR CAR ACCIDENT REPORTS TO COUNT CAR ACCIDENTS. 
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BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN HELP THEM STANDARDIZE THOSE, LIKE THE WAY, YOU KNOW, FILL OUT AN ACCIDENT REPORT THE WAY S A P D DOES BEST PRACTICES SURE. 
          SO THAT THEN YOU GUYS COULD ACCEPT THEM. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT I THINK MORE DATA LIKE THAT WOULD INFORM DECISIONS. 
          BUT ANYWAY, UM, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          UM, GOOD JOB, MIKE. 
          AND I THINK COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA HAS A MOTION TO MAKE. 
          I'D LIKE, SORRY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A, A MOTION THAT WE RENEW THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE 12 PUBLIC EDUCATION DISTRICTS WITHIN ITS BOUNDARIES. 
          NO, I DON'T WANNA RENEW THE ONE THAT WE HAVE. 
          OH, I WANT IT MODIFIED WITH, WITH THE MODIFICATIONS PROPOSED. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE NOT COMPLETE YET. 
          SO I COULD WE HAVE IT COME BACK TO COMMITTEE WHEN THEY'RE DONE NEGOTIATING WITH IT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON, ON THE DRAINAGE ISSUE, KNOWING THAT'S THE LAST PIECE. 
          I CAN GIVE A, A, A QUICKER VERSION OF THIS, BUT FOCUS A LITTLE BIT ON THE KEY ITEMS THAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED. 
          MAYBE BRING BACK SOME OF THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD. 
          AND, UH, AT THAT POINT YOU'LL HAVE THE FULL DOCUMENT TO REVIEW AND QUOTE UNQUOTE, UH, BLESS IF YOU LIKE IT. 
          SO I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          YES, DEFINITELY. 
          SO LET ME WITHDRAW MY MOTION. 
          AND I PROPOSE, OR I'D LIKE TO MOVE, THAT WE, UH, WE CONSIDER RENEWAL OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND 12 PUBLIC EDUCATION DISTRICTS WITHIN ITS BOUNDARIES, WITH THE CHANGES THAT OUR COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT TODAY AND BE BROUGHT BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION BEFORE MOVING TO THE FULL COUNCIL. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          HEARING NO OPPOSITION. 
          THAT PASSES. 
          AND THAT ALSO, UH, MR. CONTRERAS, ONE ITEM JUST REMINDER NEXT WEEK AND LL C WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, UH, WE'LL BE SENDING OUT A AGENDA PROGRAMMING. 
          WHAT DID ALL THE EVENTS ARE SHORTLY, PATRICK SAID WE'LL BE SENDING OUT TO THE COUNCIL, AMERICAN COUNCIL, YOU ARE ALL REGISTERED, I BELIEVE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANKS. 
          UH, AND WE'RE ADJOURNED. 
          AND THE MINUTES WILL REFLECT THAT EVERYBODY'S GONNA TRY HARDER TO BE MORE LIKE SALLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          .
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