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WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL B SESSION OF NOVEMBER 13TH, 2019.

COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVINO.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER JADA SULLIVAN.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ.

PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER HABEO HDA.

COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER LIAS.

COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY MAYOR.

AND MAYOR NUREMBERG.

HERE.

MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR CITY COUNCIL B SESSION AGENDA.

THE TIME IS 2:22 PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

[1. Briefing on the procurement of three firms to provide dockless vehicle services on City rights-of-way. [Lori Houston, Assistant City Manager; John Jacks, Director, Center City Development and Operations]]

PATIENCE.

WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

IT'S OUR BRIEFING ON THE DOCKLESS VEHICLE SERVICES ON CITY RIGHTS OF WAY.

UH, CITY MANAGER ERIC WALSH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO ONE ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA, UM, UH, PRESENTED BY JOHN JACKS.

UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED A DOCKLESS VEHICLE PILOT PROGRAM IN OCTOBER OF 2018.

UH, THE PILOT RESULTED IN SEVEN DOCKLESS VEHICLE OPERATORS, UH, SEEKING A TOTAL OF OVER 16,000 PERMITS FOR VEHICLES.

UH, AS WE BEGAN, UH, THE COUNCIL, UH, THEN, UH, LAST YEAR BEFORE SUMMER, UH, APPROVED A MORATORIUM, UM, AT THAT POINT, AND STAFF RETURNED LAST MAY WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY PURSUE AN R F P TO IDENTIFY, UH, THREE QUALIFIED OPERATORS.

THE JOHN WILL WALK THROUGH THIS, UM, UH, UM, CONTRACT SOLICITATION PROCESS AND THE STEPS WE WENT THROUGH.

UH, FOLLOWING THE B SESSION BRIEFING, UH, STAFF WILL FURTHER ENGAGE, UH, THESE FIRMS TO DEVELOP, UH, A NEW PARKING FRAMEWORK, WHICH JOHN WILL TALK ABOUT.

UH, THIS EFFORT, EFFORT WILL RELY, UH, ON PART, IN PART ON THE CONCEPTS PROPOSED THROUGH THE R F P PROCESS.

WE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS AS AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I DID WANNA NOTE THAT, UH, THIS ITEM IS STILL A, UH, IS A HIGH PROFILE PROCUREMENT AND THE RESTRICTIONS ON COMMUNICATION RE UH, ARE, ARE IN PLACE UNTIL IT'S POSTED FOR A COUNCIL ACTION, UH, IN DECEMBER.

RIGHT NOW, TENTATIVELY THIS ITEM, UM, IS SCHEDULED FOR THE DECEMBER 12TH AGENDA, AND, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN.

THANKS.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AS ERIC, UM, HAS ALREADY OUTLINED.

I'LL GIVE YOU A, UH, BRIEF PRESENTATION ON, UM, WHERE WE'RE AT REGARDING THE R F P PROCESS.

UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UH, IN JUNE, 2018, SO A LITTLE BIT, UH, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, UH, VEHICLES WERE LAUNCHED, UH, PRIMARILY IN DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO.

UM, AND THEY DID MAKE THEIR WAY, UM, THROUGH OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY AS THE COMPANIES WERE TESTING OUT THE MARKET.

UM, IN OCTOBER OF 2018, YOU ALL APPROVED A PILOT PROGRAM, UM, A SIX MONTH PROGRAM WHERE WE WOULD HAVE SOME MINIMAL REGULATIONS IN PLACE, UH, WHILE WE LEARNED MORE AND EXPERIENCED MORE, UM, ABOUT THE, UH, DOCKLESS VEHICLES.

UM, SO WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU AT THE END OF THAT, UM, WITH SOME MORE REGULATIONS.

UM, SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE PERMANENT.

UH, HOWEVER, IN FEBRUARY OF 2018, UM, WE DID INTRODUCE SOME NEW INTERIM, UM, PROGRAM CHANGES.

WE ALSO, UM, ARE YOU ALSO APPROVED A MORATORIUM, UM, STOPPING OR CAPPING THE NUMBER OF COMPANIES,

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UM, THAT WERE ALREADY IN THE MARKET.

UH, AND THEN IN MAY OF 2018, UM, YOU ALL ENDORSED AN R F P PROCESS, UH, TO PROCEED.

UM, FORWARD TO SELECT THREE OPERATORS, UH, FOR SAN ANTONIO.

UH, ON THE LEFT THERE, ON THE BOTTOM THERE, CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UH, SIX OPERATORS OPERATING IN THE CITY JUMP, UM, WHICH IS OPERATED BY UBER WITHDREW, UM, IN THE EARLY SUMMER.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A TOTAL OF, UH, 6,850 VEHICLES, UH, THAT ARE PERMITTED.

UM, IN MAY.

WE ALSO, UH, LOWERED THE NUMBER OF PERMITS, UM, DOWN FROM THE 16,000 THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PERMITTED.

UH, THERE ON THE RIGHT.

YOU CAN SEE WE'VE ADDED, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION SHOWING YOU THAT RIDERSHIP, THE TREND IS, UH, SLOWING DOWN.

SO YOU CAN SEE STARTING IN NOVEMBER OF 18, UM, WE HAD CLOSE TO 280,000, UM, RIDES PER MONTH.

UM, IT PEAKED IN DECEMBER AT ABOUT 300,000.

THEN IT'S KIND OF SLOWLY DECLINED, UM, OVER THE PAST YEAR, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 100,000, UM, RIDES PER MONTH, UM, JUST THIS PAST MONTH IN OCTOBER.

UM, THAT ALSO, YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM, THE GRAPH THERE THAT THE COMPANIES ARE RESPONDING, UM, TO THAT DEMAND.

SO THEY HAVE SLOWLY DECREASED THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES THAT ARE DEPLOYED.

UM, AROUND FEBRUARY OF 19, WE HAD, UM, APPROXIMATELY 6,700 VEHICLES DEPLOYED, UM, ON AVERAGE DAILY, THAT NUMBER HAS SLOWLY DECLINED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ABOUT 2,800, UH, THIS PAST MONTH IN OCTOBER.

SO IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE, UM, THE DEMAND, UM, IS, IS STARTING TO SLOW DOWN AND THE, AND THE COMPANIES ARE RESPONDING BY DEPLOYING LESS VEHICLES.

JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

UM, OVER THE PAST, UH, PAST YEAR OR THE PAST SIX MONTHS SINCE THE PILOT PROGRAM FIRST STARTED.

THE, UH, NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS HAS, HAS ALSO DECLINED, UM, AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE TOP NUMBER IS THE ACCIDENTS WHERE, UM, INDIVIDUALS, WHEN THERE WAS A CALL, THEY WERE ACTUALLY TRANSPORTED BY AMBULANCE.

UM, AND THE BOTTOM IS WHERE THERE WAS A CALL, BUT THERE WAS NO TRANSPORT REQUIRED.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE AS WELL THAT THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS ARE STARTING TO DECLINE, UM, AS WELL.

UH, UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER, UM, SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE PARKS POLICE, UM, HAVE BEEN OUT THERE ENFORCING, UM, WRITING.

UM, THEY'VE ISSUED A LOT OF WARNINGS.

OVER 2000 WARNINGS HAVE BEEN ISSUED SINCE THE PILOT PROGRAM WAS ADOPTED IN OCTOBER, UM, WITH 87 CITATIONS.

SO THEY'RE STILL PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON EDUCATION AND WARNING, UM, INDIVIDUALS, UH, AS OPPOSED TO ISSUING CITATIONS.

BUT IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, IF THE O OFFICER FEELS IT'S, IT'S NECESSARY, UM, THEY WILL ISSUE A CITATION.

UH, AND THEN OUR, UH, 3 1 1, UM, TEAM HAS BEEN VERY BUSY, UM, TAKING CALLS AS WELL AS THE APP.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF THE, UH, THE TYPES OF COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO 3 1 1, EITHER THROUGH THE APP OR THROUGH THE CALL.

UM, MOST OF THOSE, OR A LARGE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE, UM, BLOCKING SIDEWALKS.

UM, AND THEN SOME OTHER, THERE'S SOME OTHER CATEGORIES WHERE PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE ENTERED, UM, THE TYPE OF VIOLATION, BUT PRIMARILY IT'S, IT'S BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK.

UM, AND A AND A, A NICE FACT TO SEE THERE AT THE BOTTOM, UM, IS THAT 3,600, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 3,600 VIOLATIONS WERE REPORTED THROUGH THE 3 1 1 APP.

UM, SO PEOPLE ARE USING THE APP.

UH, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR, UH, BRIEFINGS.

WE ALL, UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WITH THE, UM, THE IDEA OF AN R F P, WE PRESENTED TO YOU TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ON APRIL 29TH.

UM, AND THEN WE WENT TO A B SESSION, UM, IN MAY, UM, FOLLOWED BY A MEETING OF AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY ON MAY 21ST, AND THEN FINALLY ON MAY 30TH AT A, A SESSION, YOU ALL, UM, ENDORSED THE R F P PROCESS.

AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT REALLY THE GOALS OF THE R F P, UM, WHO IDENTIFY THE THREE BEST OPERATORS, UM, HAVE A NEW MAXIMUM NUMBER OF VEHICLES, UH, LOOKING FOR WHAT ARE THOSE COMPANIES DOING TO EDUCATE THEIR RIDERS? SO WHAT ARE THEIR RIDER EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS? WE ALSO WANTED TO KNOW IN DETAIL HOW THEY WOULD USE GEOFENCING TO HELP SOLVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE SEEING, PARTICULARLY AROUND PARKING IN AREAS THAT WHERE PARKING IS NOT ALLOWED AND RIDING IN OTHER AREAS SUCH AS THE RIVERWALK OR ALAMO PLAZA.

UM, WE WANTED TO KNOW, UH, WHAT THEIR, UH, DATA SHARING, UM, WHAT WOULD THEY OFFER AS FAR AS DATA SHARING.

UM, CRAIG AND HIS TEAM WORKED VERY CLOSELY, UM, OUTLINING WHAT WE NEEDED, UM, WORKING ALONG WITH ART REINHARDT FROM OUR, UH, TRANSPORTATION TEAM TO SEE WHAT, UM, INFORMATION WOULD BE VALUABLE TO THEM.

UH, AND THEN FINALLY, VERY IMPORTANTLY, UM, WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WERE THEIR SOLUTIONS FOR PARKING? WHAT WERE THEIR, WHAT FRAMEWORK WOULD THEY USE, UM, TO HELP REDUCE SOME OF THE CLUTTER ON THE SIDEWALK, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS WERE CLEAR, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

UH, REAL QUICK, THE R F P TIMELINE.

UM, THE R F P WAS ISSUED ON JUNE 7TH.

ON JUNE 14TH, WE HAD A PRE-SUBMIT CONFERENCE, UH, WHERE WE INVITED, UM, ANY, UH, POTENTIAL APPLICANTS

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TO QUESTIONS.

UH, AND THEN ON JULY 22ND WAS THE R F P DEADLINE.

SO WE HAD THE R F P OPEN FOR 45 DAYS.

UH, THE EVALUATION PROCESS STARTED IN LATE AUGUST.

UH, WE HAD DISTRIBUTION MEETINGS WHERE MEMBERS OF THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UH, CAME AND MET WITH OUR FINANCE, UH, PROCUREMENT TEAM.

UM, WE WENT OVER, UH, THE PROCESS AND WE ISSUED THE, UH, THE PROPOSALS TO THEM.

ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, WE HAD AN INITIAL SCORING AND SHORTLISTED TO FIVE, UM, UH, PROPOSALS OR FIVE COMPANIES.

UH, THE IDEA THERE WAS THAT WE HAD, BECAUSE WE HAD NINE, UM, SUBMITTALS, WE WANTED TO NARROW IT DOWN TO A, A SMALLER GROUP TO BRING THEM IN, UM, AND INTERVIEW AND ASK QUESTIONS AND, AND GET ANSWERS.

UH, SO ON OCTOBER 1ST, UH, WE DID INTERVIEW FIVE, UM, COMPANIES.

AND THEN ON OCTOBER 4TH, WE MET AGAIN FOR FINAL SCORING.

WE HAD NINE, UH, COMPANIES SUBMIT BIRD, FROG, LIME LIFT, OJO, RAZOR SPIN, VO RIDE, AND WHEELS.

UM, ALL SIX OF THE COMPANIES, UH, THAT ARE OPERATING SUBMITTED.

UM, WE HAD A FEW, UM, FROM OUTSIDE THAT WERE, UM, NOT OPERATING THAT DID SUBMIT.

UM, AND SO THE, THE COMPANIES THAT WERE NOT OPERATING, UM, THAT SUBMITTED WERE OJO FROG, UH, VO RIDE AND WHEELS.

JUST A REAL QUICK, UH, REVIEW OF THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE.

THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE INCLUDED, UH, MEMBERS OF CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, ACTIVELY, UM, INVOLVED IN THE, UH, IN SCOOTERS SINCE THEIR ARRIVAL, AS WELL AS SOME OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS, UH, AND STAKEHOLDERS.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD, UM, SOME RESIDENTS OF THE NEARBY DOWNTOWN AREA, UH, AS WELL AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DISABILITY ACCESS AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND WE ALSO HAD, UH, AN ADVISORY OR A TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDED, UM, VIA, VIA THE RIVER AUTHORITY, UM, OUR DEPARTMENT, C C D O, PARKS AND REC, UM, AND RISK MANAGEMENT AS WELL.

THE, UH, EVALUATION CRITERIA INCLUDED, UH, EXPERIENCE, QUALIFICATIONS AND FINANCIAL CAPACITY, QUALITY OF PROPOSAL, ECONOMIC TERMS, SO BETA LOCAL PREFERENCE, AND THE V O S B PREFERENCE.

THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UH, SCORED THE TOP, UH, TWO, SO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE SCORED EXPERIENCE, QUALIFICATIONS AND FINANCIAL CAPACITY, AS WELL AS QUALITY OF PROPOSAL.

SO THIS WAS THE INITIAL, UM, EVALUATION THAT WAS DONE, UM, BY THE COMMITTEE.

AGAIN, THE, THE COMMITTEE ONLY SCORED EXPERIENCE, QUALIFICATIONS AND FINANCIAL CAPACITY AND QUALITY OF PROPOSAL.

THE COMMITTEE DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, THE FINANCIAL TERMS, SUCH AS ECONOMIC TERMS OR SUB OR LOCAL PREFERENCE.

THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO SEE THOSE.

UM, AS A RESULT OF THIS PROCESS, UH, THE COMMITTEE NARROWED IT DOWN TO FIVE, UM, APPLICANTS TO BRING IN TO INTERVIEW.

UM, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN BIRD LINE, LIFT, RAZOR AND SPIN THE COMMITTEE, UH, LIKE, LIKE I MENTIONED, THEY BROUGHT THEM IN.

UM, EACH, UH, APPLICANT HAD A PRESENTATION OPPORTUNITY, SO THEY PRESENTED WITH THEIR PROPOSAL AND THAT THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY A QUESTION AND ANSWER, UM, PROCESS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

AND, UH, UH, A COMMUNICATION, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE, UH, PRESENTERS.

UH, AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE, UH, NARROWED IT DOWN TO THREE COMPANIES.

THAT WOULD BE LIME, LIFT AND SPIN, I'M SORRY, LIME LIFT AND RAZOR.

SO LIFT WAS NUMBER ONE, LINE TWO, RAZOR THREE.

THE FINANCE AND AUDIT DEPARTMENTS, UM, DID DUE DILIGENCE AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.

UH, THERE WERE 385 VENDORS THAT WERE NOTIFIED.

18 VENDORS WERE, UH, ATTENDING THE PRE-SUBMIT CONFERENCE.

AND THEN WE DID HAVE NINE APPLICANTS PROPOSE.

UH, THERE WERE NO FINDINGS AS FAR AS RESULTS OF MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AND NO FINDINGS.

UM, IN THE DUE DILIGENCE REVIEW, I'LL GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF, UH, OVERVIEW OF EACH ONE OF THE THREE, UH, COMPANIES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED.

UM, STARTING WITH LYFT, UH, PRIMARILY LYFT.

UM, THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT LYFT HAD THE BEST OVERALL OPERATIONS PLAN, UM, RIDER EDUCATION MATERIALS, AND ALSO THE STRONGEST PRESENTATION.

UM, THEY ALSO HAD A EMPLOYEE DRIVEN MODEL WHERE THEY HAVE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES VERSUS, UM, CONTRACT EMPLOYEES.

UH, THEY HAVE BEEN A STRONG PARTNER, UM, DURING SPECIAL EVENT PLANS.

UM, AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE A MORE, MORE COMPREHENSIVE OR MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH, UH, TO FOCUS ON, UM, LARGER TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITIES, NOT JUST FOCUSING, UM, ON SCOOTERS OR DOCKLESS VEHICLES.

UM, THEY DO HAVE A PLANNED, UM, SEATED VEHICLE THAT THEY'RE, UM, PLANNING TO INTRODUCE IN 2020.

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UM, AND THEY DO ALSO OPERATE DOCKLESS, UH, BIKES, UM, IN OTHER MARKETS, SO THEY COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, LAUNCH THOSE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AS WELL.

UM, AND FINALLY, UH, LYFT ALSO PROPOSED THAT THE, UM, THE MARKET WOULD, UH, PROBABLY REMAIN OVERSATURATED AT THE 5,000 TOTAL VEHICLES THAT WE WERE PROPOSING.

SO AS PART OF, PART OF THEIR PLAN, UM, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES DOWN TO 1000, UM, AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION, AS OPPOSED TO THE 1000, 1,666, UM, THAT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED.

SO BASICALLY, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO LAUNCH FEWER VEHICLES THAN WHAT WE WOULD'VE, UH, PERMITTED.

UM, LYME, MUCH LIKE LYFT HAD A VERY GOOD PROPOSAL, UM, AND THEY HAVE BEEN A VERY GOOD PARTNER IN SHARING DATA, UH, WITH THE CITY.

SO A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU ALL, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF HAS COME FROM, UM, LYME.

OTHER COMPANIES HAVE PROVIDED DATA AS WELL, BUT LYME HAS BEEN, UM, REALLY GOOD ABOUT PROVIDING, UM, GOOD, UM, DATA.

AND THEY HAVE HAD A STRONG, UM, COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS TO REMOVE VEHICLES NIGHTLY, UH, FROM AREAS OF DOWNTOWN WHERE, UH, CENTRAL PRESSURE WASHES.

UM, THEY DO HAVE DOCKLESS BIKES THAT THEY OPERATE IN OTHER MARKETS.

SO IT IS, AGAIN, UM, A POTENTIAL THAT THEY COULD LAUNCH THOSE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN THEY, UM, SIMILAR TO LYFT, ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT WE LAUNCH FEWER VEHICLES THAN THE 5,000 THAT WE RECOMMENDED.

SO THEY TOO HAVE AGREED THAT A THOUSAND VEHICLES WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THEM.

FINALLY, RAZOR, THE COMMITTEE WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR VEHICLE.

UM, THEY SAW THAT, UM, THE SIT DOWN VEHICLE OFFERED AN OPTION, UM, THAT IS CURRENTLY ALREADY OUT THERE IN THE MARKET, AND THAT NONE OF THE OTHER COMPANIES, UM, CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE.

UM, RAZOR HAS ALSO BEEN A GOOD PARTNER, UM, AND BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE WHEN WE'VE, UH, HAD ISSUES REGARDING WEATHER OR EVENTS.

UM, THEY ALSO HAVE A, UM, A MODEL THAT DOES NOT USE CONTRACT EMPLOYEES, UM, AND USES FULL-TIME, UH, EMPLOYEES.

THEY ALSO HAVE A SMALLER NATIONAL FOOTPRINT, SO THEY SEEM TO BE FOCUSING ON, UM, FEWER, UH, AREAS OR FEWER METROPOLITAN AREAS.

AND WE THINK WITH THAT, UM, WE HAVE MUCH BETTER RESPONSIVE RESPONSIVENESS WITH THEM AND A MUCH BETTER, UM, ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.

UH, JUST TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THAT, UM, AGAIN, TWO OF THE COMPANIES, UM, UM, SUGGESTED AS PART OF THEIR PRESENTATION, UM, THAT WE SHOULD LAUNCH FEWER VEHICLES THAN WHAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING.

UM, WE WERE RECOMMENDING 5,000.

UM, THEY BASICALLY ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE SHOULD, UM, ONLY HAVE 3000 IN THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET.

UM, ALL THREE RECOMMENDED COMPANIES HAVE AGREED TO THIS.

UM, SO BASICALLY WE WOULD BE AT ABOUT 3000 VEHICLES, UM, CITYWIDE, UM, AS PROPOSED.

UH, AS PART OF THIS, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE LIFT THE NIGHTTIME RIDING CURFEW.

UM, YOU MAY RECALL, UM, LAST MAY WHEN WE TALKED, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A NIGHTTIME CURFEW.

UM, WE THINK BY GOING DOWN TO THREE VE THREE COMPANIES WITH FEWER VEHICLES AND FEWER DEMAND, AND, AND THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM MORE EFFECTIVELY, AND PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO DATA, UM, THAT WE LIFT THE RIGHT NIGHTTIME RIDING CURFEW, UM, FOR A SIX MONTH PERIOD TO TEST IT, TO SEE WHAT THE, UH, THE DATA SHOWS AND THEN COME BACK TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION IS WHETHER OR NOT TO PROCEED, UM, WITHOUT IT OR MAYBE TO REINSTATE IT.

THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE PROJECTED PROGRAM REVENUE THAT WE EXPECT FROM THE THREE, UM, COMPANIES OPERATING.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE HAVE AN INITIAL $75,000 PER COMPANY UPFRONT FEE, UM, FOLLOWED BY ANNUAL PERMIT FEES, UM, AND THEN SOME REVENUE SHARE THAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE, UH, THE COMPANIES AS WELL.

SO THE REVENUE WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF A, A, UM, A PER A CENT, A A CERTAIN AMOUNT, IF YOU WILL, UM, PER RIDE.

UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY ABOUT $562,000 THE FIRST YEAR, UM, FOLLOWED BY A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, THE FOLLOWING YEARS.

AND THOSE, UH, THAT COST IS PRIMARILY TO, UH, RECOVER REVENUE.

UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, HIRING OF FOUR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, WOULD BE ONE SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST TO, UM, MONITOR THE CONTRACT AS WELL AS SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, PROGRAM COORDINATION.

AND THEN THREE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO, UM, ADDRESS, UM, EITHER FALLEN VEHICLES AND ALSO TO MONITOR, UM, INCORRECT VEHICLES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

UM, THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE SOME OVERTIME FUNDING, UM, UP TO NINE HOURS FOR SS A P D ENFORCEMENT.

UH, AND THEN, UM, WE'D ALSO FOCUS SOME DOLLARS ON RIDER EDUCATION, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, THE 75,000, UM, UPFRONT WOULD GO IMMEDIATELY TO INFRASTRUCTURE, PRIMARILY PARKING, UM, FOR THE SCOOTERS.

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WE STILL HAVE SOME THINGS TO WORK ON AS FAR AS CONTRACTING IS CONCERNED.

UM, ESSENTIALLY BETWEEN NOW AND WE COME BACK, UH, IN DECEMBER, UM, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE THREE FIRMS. THIS WOULD ESTABLISH, UM, A CONSISTENT TIERED PENALTY STRUCTURE, UM, FOR RIDING AND PARKING VIOLATIONS.

ALL OF THE COMPANIES, UM, HAVE AGREED THAT THEY WOULD IN INSTITUTE SOME FORM OF PENALTY FOR BAD BEHAVIOR.

SO THAT COULD EITHER BE RIDING OR PARKING.

UM, BASICALLY IT MAY BE LIKE A THREE STRIKES.

YOU'RE OUT, UM, PROCESS WHERE THE FIRST TIME IS A WARNING, THE SECOND TIME IT'S A STIFFER WARNING, MAYBE EVEN A PENALTY.

AND THE THIRD TIME COULD PERHAPS RESULT IN YOU LOSING ACTUAL ACCESS, UH, TO THE VEHICLES.

AND SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE COMPANIES TO DEVELOP THAT FRAMEWORK ALSO.

UM, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A CONSISTENT, UM, AND SPECIFIC DASHBOARD, UM, THAT HAS CONSISTENT DATA THAT WE WOULD AGGREGATE BETWEEN THE THREE COMPANIES.

UM, WE WOULD USE THAT FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.

UM, AND THEN T C I WOULD USE THAT AS WELL, UM, TO DETERMINE, UM, WHAT ARE, WHAT PATHS ARE PEOPLE TAKING, UM, WHERE ARE VEHICLES BEING PARKED, UM, SO WE CAN START TO SEE SOME OF THOSE TRENDS AND START TO APPLY SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN APPROPRIATE AREAS.

UM, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO, UH, DEFINE THOSE GEOFENCE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, ALL THE COMPANIES HAD VERY SIMILAR GEOFENCING, UM, PROPOSALS.

UM, IT WAS VERY GOOD TO SEE AND GOOD NEWS TO SEE THAT THEY WERE ALL, UM, PROPOSING VERY STRONG GEO-FENCING AS PART, UM, OF THEIR PLAN.

UM, SO WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO DEFINE THAT, UH, AND THEN, UH, DEVELOP AN EFFECTIVE AND IN FINE STRUCTURE AND A FAILURE TO CORRECT, UH, VIOLATION.

SO THIS WOULD RESULT, OR THIS WOULD HAPPEN WHEN A COMPANY, UM, DOES NOT RESPOND PER SAY, TO VEHICLES BLOCKING, UM, A PATHWAY.

UM, SO WE'LL DEVELOP WHAT ARE THE, UH, RAMIFICATIONS OR THE PENALTIES WHEN, UM, WHEN THEY DON'T RESPOND TO THAT.

UM, AND THEN DEV AND ESTABLISH METRICS FOR EDUCATION, UM, INITIATIVES AND COMMUNITY EVENTS.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COMPANIES ARE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY EDUCATING INDIVIDUALS, UM, ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE RULES ARE, UM, UM, BEST HABITS, UH, TIPS, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT CONSISTENTLY AND OFTEN IF THEY'RE SENDING, UM, A GOOD MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, AS TO HOW TO RIDE, UM, OR HOW TO PARK.

UM, AND THEN WE NEED TO, UH, ALL THE COMPANIES, UH, RECOMMENDED A, UH, AN EQUITY, UM, PROGRAM, AND PRIMARILY THAT'S OFFERING LOWER RATES, UH, TO INDIVIDUALS WHO QUALIFY.

UM, AND SO WE'LL WORK WITH THOSE, UH, THOSE COMPANIES TO DEVELOP, UM, WHAT ARE THOSE, UM, PROGRAMS AND HOW WOULD THOSE WORK.

UM, AND THEN, UM, REALLY IMPORTANT IS TO START WORKING ON THIS PARKING FRAMEWORK PLAN.

UM, WORKING WITH THE COMPANIES TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS WHERE PEOPLE, UM, ARE PRIMARILY, UM, RIDING TWO.

AND WE CAN FOCUS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, IN THOSE AREAS.

UM, SUCH AS, UH, PARKING CORRALS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TAKING ON STREET PARKING SPACES AND CONVERTING THEM INTO DOCKLESS, UH, CORRALS.

UM, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS WHERE THERE MAY NOT BE A LOT OF SIDEWALK SPACE, AND THAT COULD BE IN THE FORM OF, UM, TEMPLATES LIKE WE HAVE NOW ON SIDEWALKS, UM, INCORPORATING SIGNAGE, UM, REALLY MAKING IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY SHOULD PARK THE VEHICLES.

AND THEN WORKING WITH THE COMPANIES TO, UM, TO DEVELOP, UM, INCENTIVE PLANS, UH, FOR REWARDING PEOPLE FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR.

SO IF YOU PARK IN ONE OF THESE CORRALS, UM, YOU RECEIVE SOME KIND OF INCENTIVE, UH, TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, AND ALL OF THE COMPANIES HAVE, UM, AGREED TO DO THAT AS PART OF THEIR PROPOSALS.

UM, OUR, UH, PLAN IS TO PROVIDE YOU ALL A COPY OF THE, UH, CONTRACT, UM, ONE WEEK PRIOR TO COUNCIL TAKING ACTION IN DECEMBER, SO YOU HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT IN DECEMBER.

UH, SO NEXT STEPS, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER 12TH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, UH, WORK ON THE CONTRACTS.

UM, AND, UH, AND PRESENT TO YOU ALL ON DEC ON DECEMBER 12TH, UH, ON JANUARY 12TH, THE CONTRACTS WOULD GO INTO EFFECT AND ANY UNSUCCESSFUL RESPONDENTS, UM, WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THEIR VEHICLES BY THEN.

UM, AND THEN FEBRUARY THROUGH APRIL, WE WOULD WORK TO INSTALL THAT PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED WITH THE COMPANIES, UM, IN OUR PARKING FRAMEWORK.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND TROY ELLIOTT IS HERE AS WELL FROM FINANCE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SCORING.

AND I'D LIKE TO THANK ANY OF THE, UH, EVALUATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY AS WELL.

I KNOW SOME OF THEM ARE IN ATTENDANCE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, JOHN.

UM, I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES DO AS WELL.

UH, FIRST I JUST WANT TO, UM, THANK EVERYONE WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS PROCESS.

UM, WHEN SCOOTERS WERE DROPPED IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WE WERE FORCED TO DEAL WITH A SITUATION.

UH, AND, AND HOW WE HANDLED IT, I THINK, UH, SPEAKS TO HOW WE WILL HANDLE NEW TECHNOLOGIES IN THE FUTURE.

WE, WE, WE'VE

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LIVED THROUGH THE UBER LYFT RIDESHARE, UH, OF THE PAST IN WHICH WE, THE FIRST ATTEMPT WAS TO TRY AND FIT NEW TECHNOLOGIES INTO AN OLD REGULATORY FRAMEWORK.

AND WE DID SO, AND, AND ESSENTIALLY THEY, THEY DIDN'T OPERATE ANYMORE.

SO WE WERE WITHOUT, UH, WHAT HAS BECOME A VERY VALUABLE SERVICE, UH, FOR ABOUT A YEAR OR SO BEFORE WE'VE APPROACHED THIS DIFFERENTLY.

IT'S BEEN A DIFFICULT PROCESS TO WORK THROUGH, BUT WE DID.

SO, UM, I THINK WITH EYES WIDE OPEN, TRYING TO DEAL WITH SOME PRETTY DIFFICULT, UM, ISSUES REGARDING CLUTTER, PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, ACCESS FOR PEDESTRIANS, UH, AND PEOPLE OF ALL ABILITIES ON OUR SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH ITSELF IS, IS INADEQUATE.

UM, SO I, WE CHOSE TO GO THE ROUTE OF AN R F P BECAUSE IN A CONCESSION CONTRACT, 'CAUSE IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL OVER THE SITUATION.

UH, SO REALLY I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT'S BEEN LEARNED BY THE CITY AND THE DEPARTMENTS ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE SOME OF THESE VERY, UH, BASIC PRINCIPLES OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, USE OF THE SIDEWALKS, CLUTTER AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SURE.

I THINK, UH, MOST IMPORTANTLY WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT WE NEED TO, UM, UM, PROVIDE THE EDUCATION.

EDUCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT, UM, THAT THE WRITERS UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE, AND THEN WE MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND.

UM, SO THAT'S PART OF THAT IS, IS SOME OF THE PROPOSALS SUBMITTED BY THE COMPANIES, UM, THEY'VE SUGGESTED THAT YOU COULD, UM, ALMOST HAVE A COMMUNITY, UM, ENFORCEMENT, IF YOU WILL, UM, WHERE THE NEXT RIDER COULD RATE THE PREVIOUS RIDER'S PARKING, FOR EXAMPLE.

UM, WE NEED TO, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, UH, UM, WORK ON THIS PARKING FRAMEWORK PLAN.

I THINK THAT PRIMARILY WHAT WE HAVE IS A PARKING PROBLEM.

UM, IT'S EITHER THERE WERE TOO MANY VEHICLES AND NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR THEM, UM, OR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RIDING THEM JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY CAN PARK.

UM, AND SO BY PROVIDING THOSE PARKING SPACES, IF YOU WILL, UM, IN THOSE AREAS THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE, UM, UTILIZING OR IN THOSE AREAS ARE RIDING TO, UM, I THINK WE CAN HAVE A MUCH NEATER, UM, NICER, UM, PARKING SITUATION.

AND, AND REALLY THAT A LOT OF THAT IS THAT DATA.

UM, WE'D LEARN THAT WE NEED THAT DATA TO DETERMINE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING.

UM, SOME OF IT WE CAN SEE, UM, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT BE GOING TO, UM, BUT THERE'S SOME OF THOSE AREAS THAT WE WON'T KNOW WITHOUT THAT DATA.

UM, SO REALLY I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF EDUCATING THE RIDER, MAKING SURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE, UM, FOR THEM, UM, FOR PARKING, UM, AND THEN FINALLY WORKING WITH THE COMPANIES AND, AND USING THAT DATA TO, TO MAKE SOME INFORMED AND SMART DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE TO APPLY THOSE, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

OKAY.

AND ON ONE OF YOUR OPENING SLIDES, UM, IT SHOWED THE, UM, THE GOALS OF THE R F P AND DATA SHARING IS, IS CLEARLY ONE OF THEM.

UM, THE R F P, THE CONTRACTS THAT WILL ULTIMATELY A BE EXECUTED, THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE THE COMPANIES TO PROVIDE DATA, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A QUESTION OF RIGHT.

WORKING WITH THEM, THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

RIGHT? WE WORKED, UH, CRAIG AND HIS TEAM WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH US TO DEVELOP WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT DATA DO WE NEED AND WHAT FORM DO WE NEED IT.

UM, AND THEY, THEY WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE COMPANIES AS WELL.

THEY WERE, UM, CRAIG AND HIS TEAM ACTUALLY, UM, CRAIG WAS ON THE INTERVIEW, THE, UH, COMMITTEE, BUT HIS TEAM ALSO INTERVIEWED EACH OF THE COMPANIES TO REALLY GET, REALLY GET DEEP INTO THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE DATA TO LEARN WHAT EXACTLY COULD THEY PROVIDE, HOW COULD IT BE PROVIDED THAT WAY WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY LAUNCH, WE'RE READY TO RECEIVE THAT DATA, UM, WE KNOW HOW TO AGGREGATE IT AND THEN, UM, AND THEN USE THAT DATA, UM, TO, AGAIN, TO MAKE THOSE THOSE GOOD DECISIONS.

OKAY.

SO IT WILL BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE CONTRACT? YES.

OKAY.

AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF A CONTRACT BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT CREATED YET.

BUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT IS THE, UH, WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE ENFORCEMENT, THE HOLDING OF, UH, OF THE COMPANIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, CLUTTER, UH, EXCEEDING THEIR PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, LACK OF DATA SHARING, LACK OF PAYMENT TO THE REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENT? SURE.

WHAT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT ARE, ARE, ARE WE PUTTING INTO THE CONTRACT? UM, WELL, THERE'S TWO PIECES.

THE FIRST BEING, UM, IF VEHICLES ARE PARKED, KINDA LIKE WHAT WE DO TODAY, IF A VEHICLE'S PARKED IN VIOLATION, UM, AND THEY'RE NOTIFIED AND THEY DO NOT RESPOND, THAT VEHICLE COULD BE IMPOUNDED AND THEN THEY COULD BE CHARGED A FINE TO GET THAT VEHICLE BACK.

SO THAT WILL STAY IN PLACE.

UM, BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE LANGUAGE IN A CONTRACT THAT OBLIGATES THEM, UM, TO COMPLY WITH THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT.

MUCH LIKE A LOT OF, A LOT OF CONTRACTS THE CITY HAS WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UM, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CURE THOSE ISSUES.

AND IF THEY DON'T, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, TERMINATE THAT, OR WE COULD POTENTIALLY TERMINATE THAT CONTRACT WITH THEM.

OKAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE BEEN, UH, ANDY GO AHEAD.

SORRY, MAYOR.

I

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JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM WHAT, UH, WE HAD JUST SAID IN TERMS OF THERE'S GONNA BE A GRADUATED RESPONSE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NATURE OF THE, UH, NON-PERFORMANCE IS.

UM, AND, UH, AS IN MANY OF OUR CONTRACTS, THERE'LL BE A GRADUATED ALL THE WAY UP TO FINES, AND EVENTUALLY, IF THEY CONSISTENTLY DON'T PERFORM, IT'D BE ONE WHERE WE CAN PULL THE PERMIT AND ESSENTIALLY TERMINATE THEIR ABILITY TO OPERATE IN THE CITY.

OKAY, GREAT.

WELL, I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE STARTED IN A TOTALLY UNREGULATED SYSTEM.

WE'VE ADDED, UH, AT LEAST TWO STEPS OF REGULATIONS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, THE LAST YEAR.

I THINK THERE'VE BEEN IMPROVEMENTS IN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE VOLUME OF COMPLAINTS HAS SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT I, I THINK PEOPLE WILL NOT HAVE PATIENCE IF WE GO IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

SO I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING FOR A MARKED IMPROVEMENT IN ALL THOSE ISSUES.

WE MENTIONED PUBLIC SAFETY CLUTTER AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE ARE ATTUNED TO THAT AS, AS WE MOVE ALONG.

SO, UM, ANXIOUS TO HEAR THE CONVERSATION, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, JOHN.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, JOHN, JUST, UH, GOING OFF OF SOME OF THAT, THE, WE, WE ADDED SCOOTERS TO THE 3 1 1 SA APP.

WILL, WILL THAT CONTINUE TO BE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO REPORT ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE WITH SCOOTERS? UH, YES, IT WILL.

AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PAULA AS WELL ABOUT, UM, KIND OF WHAT KIND OF LEARNING, UM, WE'VE LEARNED SOME THINGS OR MAYBE SOME REFINEMENTS THAT WE CAN DO TO THE APP TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT CLEARER FOR, FOR PEOPLE ON, ON REPORTING THAT.

BUT, UM, BUT IT, WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF USE FROM THE APP.

UM, SO DEFINITELY PEOPLE ARE USING IT OUT THERE AND IT IS A GOOD TOOL.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

SO, SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE REFINEMENTS? DID YOU GIVE SOME EXAMPLES? UH, THERE, THERE'S, UH, SOME OF THE VIOLATIONS.

SOMETIMES IT'S, I I, IT MAY NOT BE CLEAR TO SOMEONE WHAT A, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IS A PROHIBITED AR AREA? UM, THERE'S PRIORITY AREAS IN THERE.

SO I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH PAULA ABOUT, UM, MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL VIOLATION.

UM, I THINK IT'LL BE, SOME THINGS WILL BE EASIER JUST 'CAUSE IT'LL BE LESS, UM, SCOOTER COMPANIES HERE, SO IT'LL BE EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO IDENTIFY WHICH COMPANY IT IS.

UM, THAT'S IN VIOLATION.

WE'VE SEEN THAT BE SOMETIMES BE AN ISSUE WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE CONFUSION OF WHICH SCOOTER IS IT.

SO WHEN THEY GET THAT, WHEN THAT COMES IN, HOW LONG BEFORE THE, UH, SCOOTER COMPANIES HAVE TO RESPOND? UH, IT, IT'S TWO HOURS FOR, UH, A VIOLATION, SAY A FALLEN VEHICLE.

UM, AND THEN IT'S ONE HOUR IF THAT VEHICLE IS IN A PROHIBITED AREA.

UM, SO WE HAVE, UM, TALKED ABOUT, UM, EXPANDING WHAT PRO THE DEFINITION OF PROHIBITED AREA.

UM, SO IT COULD BE THAT A PROHIBITED AREA IS ALSO LIKE A, A RAMP, ANYTHING THAT IS PRIMARILY, UM, FOR SURE IMPACTING DISABILITY ACCESS, THAT WOULD BECOME A PRIORITY.

UM, SIMILAR TO PROHIBITED AREAS OR, OR, OR PUBLIC SAFETY.

CORRECT.

I MEAN, 'CAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT IS FOR THERE TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A SCOOTER THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY, UH, PUT SOMEBODY INTO TRAFFIC OR RIGHT.

IF IT'S, IF IT'S IN THE STREET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, WE'LL, WE'LL KIND OF ADD TO THAT CRITERIA OF, UM, OF WHAT'S A PRIORITY.

SO IT'S NOT JUST IN THE PROHIBITED AREA, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPACTING DISABILITY ACCESS OR, UM, LIKE YOU SAID, A SAFE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

YEAH.

MAYBE YOU CAN COME BACK WITH SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE SO WE CAN SEE AND, AND THEN SURE.

OKAY.

WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY ADDRESS THE, THE, THE APPLICABILITY OF, OF THE THREE OH ONES A APP.

I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND, UH, I WAS GLAD THAT WE, WE FINALLY GOT THAT PUT IN, UH, EARLY THIS YEAR, AND I THINK IT, IT, IT REALLY KIND OF STARTED GETTING A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF CALLS OR A LOT OF, UM, I DUNNO WHAT YOU CALL IT, TO, UH, INPUTS, UH, RIGHT AWAY.

SO, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO, TO CONTINUE TO, TO LOOK AT THE 3 0 1 SA APP AS A PLACE WHERE WE CAN, UH, LOOK AT SOME OF OUR TOP ISSUES AND SEE IF THEY CAN'T BE INCLUDED IN THE 3 1 1 SA APP.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, SO THE MORE WE LOOK AT WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, TOPIC OF THE DAY IS, IF WE CAN INCLUDE THE THREE OH ONES SA APP AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

UH, YOU MENTIONED PARKING FRAMEWORK, AND I, I THINK THIS KIND OF ADDS TO KIND OF THE, THE CLEAR PATH.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS, UM, REALLY BOTTOM LINE IS WE, WE WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A CLEAR PATHS AND SAFE, UH, PASSAGE FOR, FOR PEDESTRIANS AND THOSE, UH, OF ALL ABILITIES.

UM, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA, HOW ARE WE GONNA WORK WITH THESE COMPANIES TO, TO MARK OFF, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD CALL RESIDUAL SPACES AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT QUITE LIKE, LIKE A CAR WHERE YOU HAVE TO SORT OF LAY OUT A, A PARKING SPACE, BUT RATHER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN USE A LOT OF, UH, THE RESIDUAL SPACES ALL OVER DOWNTOWN, AND THERE'S MM-HMM.

, THERE'S QUITE A LOT OF THOSE, UH, SPACES THAT, THAT, THAT COULD BE UTILIZED IN NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.

UH, AND THAT'S,

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UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE REASONS WE INCLUDED KING WILLIAM LAVACCA AND A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT, WHICH BY THE WAY, I WANT TO THANK ALL THREE OF THEM FOR, FOR BEING A PART OF THAT, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR INCLUDING THEM.

AND IN PARTICULAR, MS. MARYANNE MILLER WHO REPRESENTED, UH, THE SENIOR POPULATION DOWNTOWN, UH, GRANADA HOMES.

AND WE, WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THEM, AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE VERY HAPPY THAT THEY HAD A, A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE.

UH, BUT TELL US HOW WE WOULD WORK WITH THE COMPANIES TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THESE AREAS.

UH, SURE.

SO THE, UH, THE COMPANIES I THINK KNOW BEST, UM, WHERE PEOPLE ARE, UM, RENTING OR ARE CHECKING SCOOTERS OUT FROM AND WHERE THEY'RE HEADED TO.

SO WHAT, WHERE ARE THEY, UM, UM, PARKING THEM.

UM, AND SO GETTING THAT DATA FROM THEM, BUT, BUT ALSO JUST COLLABORATING WITH THEM AND CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WORKS IN OTHER, UM, CITIES, WHAT, WHAT MAY WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE REALLY WELL THAT WE HAVEN'T TRIED HERE THAT THEY'VE LEARNED AND EXPERIENCED, UM, CAN BE HELPFUL.

UM, IDENTIFYING THOSE AREAS, UH, AND THEN PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THOSE AREAS SUCH AS THE CORRALS OR, UM, UM, A RACK, LIKE A SCOOTER RACK.

UM, THAT WAY WHEN PEOPLE GET THERE, IT'S VERY EASY FOR THEM TO SEE AND MAKE THE DECISION, THE CORRECT DECISION OF WHERE TO PARK THAT.

AND THEN FURTHER, UM, ENHANCING THAT BY WORKING WITH THE COMPANIES TO, UM, PROVIDE INCENTIVES TO INDIVIDUALS WHO DO THAT.

SO IF YOU'RE A CONTINUALLY ARE, ARE PARKING WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, UM, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY GET SOME DISCOUNT PERHAPS ON YOUR NEXT RIDE.

UM, AND THEN VICE VERSA, IF YOU, UM, UM, ARE CONTINUALLY BEING REPORTED AS, AS SOMEONE THAT IF IT'S BAD BEHAVIOR, SO, UM, YOU'RE NOT PARKING WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO AND THAT VEHICLE KEEPS GETTING, UM, OR, OR BASICALLY YOU KEEP GETTING REPORTED, UM, THEY CAN ALSO PENALIZE, UM, THAT RIDER, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, UM, HOPEFULLY DON'T, DON'T DO THAT AGAIN.

UM, SO I THINK WE CAN, UH, SIT DOWN WITH THEM, UM, WORK ON THIS FRAMEWORK PLAN.

UH, THEY HAD SOME GOOD IDEAS AS PART OF THEIR PROPOSALS.

WE HAVE SOME EXPECTATIONS I THINK THAT WE ALREADY KNOW.

UM, AND THEN COMBINING THOSE TWO AND COMING UP WITH A GOOD, UM, FRAMEWORK FOR HOW TO MITIGATE AND, AND, UM, HAVE LESS OF THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.

UM, WHEN YOU DO HAVE VEHICLES THAT ARE, THAT ARE BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK, AND THEN ALSO WORKING ON A PLAN FOR, WELL, HOW, WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN, UM, WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TIME? HOW ARE YOU GONNA RESPOND TO THAT? UM, WE NEED THAT INFORMATION TOO, SO WE CAN MONITOR THAT THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THAT WE KNOW THEY'RE DOING IT.

UM, THAT THAT'S WHERE THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT COME INTO PLAY WHO WILL BE OUT, UM, KIND OF MONITORING AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THAT THESE THINGS ARE BEING CORRECTED WHEN THEY HAPPEN.

UM, AND REALLY THEN JUST, JUST CONTINUING TO LEARN, UM, AND EVALUATE, UH, THE PROGRAM, UM, AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE WAY.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

AND THE, THE GEOFENCING IS ALSO GONNA BE, UH, APPLIED TO AREAS THAT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE RIVERWALK, UH, OTHER AREAS WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE RESTRICTING, UM, SCOOTER USE, AND OF COURSE THERE'S OTHER ENTITIES, RIGHT, THAT, THAT CAN OPT INTO SOME OF THAT AS WELL.

UH, THERE WILL BE AREAS THAT WE, UH, DETERMINE OUR, UM, OFF LIMITS, IF YOU WILL.

UM, RIVERWALK IS AN OBVIOUS ONE, BUT I THINK THERE'S POTENTIAL, WE MAY IDENTIFY OTHER AREAS, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, AROUND THE GRANADA HOMES, MAYBE THAT'S NOT JUST, JUST MAYBE IT'S BEST TO AVOID THAT ALTOGETHER.

UM, SO WE CAN CREATE A, AN AREA AROUND A PERIMETER AROUND THAT.

UM, BUT THEN ALSO FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.

SO THERE MAY BE CIRCUMSTANCES IN CERTAIN TIMES, UM, WHEN IT, AN AREA, UH, IT MAY NOT BE GOOD TO, UM, HAVE SCOOTERS IN THAT AREA.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, DURING THE FIESTA PARADES, WE DID THAT LAST YEAR, AND IT WORKED OUT VERY WELL WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE, UM, PEDESTRIANS ON THE SIDEWALKS, NOT JUST JUST WALKING ON THE SIDEWALKS, BUT ALSO THEY'RE SITTING ON THE SIDEWALK, UH, TO SEE THE PARADE.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE VEHICLES TAKING UP SPACE THAT PEOPLE TYPICALLY WOULD BE SITTING IN.

UM, SO THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THAT, THAT WHERE WE CAN, UM, ADD OR SUBTRACT, UM, AREAS, UM, AND THEN DO, UM, JUST CERTAIN, UM, FOR CERTAIN EVENTS, JUST DURING CERTAIN TIMES.

I'M ALSO, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE EQUITY PROGRAM.

I, I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, LYFT TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UH, CREATING, UM, A WAY FOR, FOR SOMEBODY TO, UH, PAY FOR A MONTHLY PASS MM-HMM.

TO ALLOW THOSE TO QUALIFY TO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE TRANSPORTATION OPTION.

UH, WITH, WITH THESE SCOOTERS, UH, WHAT WERE SOME OF THE I OTHER IDEAS BEING TOSSED AROUND? UM, WELL, THEY ALL, THEY ALL HAD A, A, SOME FORM OF A DISCOUNT, UM, EITHER PER RIDE OR IT MAY BE A, A LOW MONTHLY, UM, FAIR.

UM, THEY ALSO HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY NOT HAVE A SMARTPHONE, UM, OR

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A CREDIT CARD, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE READILY, UM, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO THERE WOULD BE, UH, UM, NO BARRIERS TO USING THESE, UM, FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS REALLY.

AND THEN WE ALSO WILL LOOK AT ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES PERHAPS WHERE, UM, VEHICLES ARE NOT BEING CURRENTLY DEPLOYED, UM, TO TRY TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, MAYBE HAVE EVENTS IN THOSE AREAS TO SEE MAYBE THERE REALLY IS DEMAND AND INTEREST OUT THERE THAT, UM, WE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

UM, SO WE'LL PARTNER WITH THEM AND, UM, AND, AND ACTUALLY GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITIES TO SEE IF THAT, THAT NEED IS THERE.

LASTLY, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP QUITE A BIT, AND OF COURSE WE CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO WEAR HELMETS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT HELMETS AND HOW CAN THE CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO WEAR HELMETS? UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF, IT WAS PART OF THAT EDUCATION, JUST EDUCATING, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, THEY PROBABLY SHOULD WEAR A HELMET.

IT'S A GOOD DECISION TO WEAR A HELMET.

UM, BUT THEN ALSO, UM, THE COMPANIES WOULD HAVE KIND OF HELMET GIVEAWAYS, UH, AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE KIND OF EVENTS GO HAND IN HAND.

YOU CAN HAVE AN EVENT IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, INTRODUCE THE COMMUNITY TO THAT MODE OF TRANSPORTATION AT THE SAME TIME, HAVE A HELMET GIVEAWAY, UM, REALLY JUST ENCOURAGING THE USE, UM, OF HELMETS.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

I, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO GETTING THIS ROLLING.

AND, UM, I WANT TO THANK ALL THOSE AGAIN INVOLVED, UH, UM, CHERICE AND LISA OF, OF LAVACCA, AND WILLIAM, AND OF COURSE, MARYANNE, AGAIN FROM GRANO HOMES FOR VOLUNTEERING TO BE A PART OF THIS EVALUATION COMMITTEE.

I, I, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS REALLY GOING IN, IN A GREAT DIRECTION FOR ALL OF US.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO.

AND, AND JOHN, I FORGOT TO ASK ONE QUESTION.

MM-HMM.

UH, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN FOR, LET ME INTERJECT HERE.

UM, SO THE, THE, YOU'RE SLIDE ON REVENUE, AND IT'S A REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENT, IT'S A 1 CENT PER RIDE FEE THAT'S GOING TO THE CITY.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING IT, BUT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A REVENUE SHARE.

SO THE, THE COMPANY'S OFFERED, UM, KIND OF VARIOUS REVENUE SHARE.

SORRY, I'M LOOKING FOR THAT SLIDE.

UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE COMPANIES AS CLOSE AS WE CAN, UM, TO BE ON THE SAME TERMS, BUT BASICALLY IT WOULD BE A, UH, A, A, UM, A FEE PER RIDE, IF YOU WILL.

UM, IT COULD BE FIF, FOR EXAMPLE, 15 CENTS PER RIDE.

THAT'S THE REVENUE SHARE THAT GOES, UM, TO THE CITY.

UH, IN ADDITION TO A, UM, A VEHICLE, UM, UH, PER VEHICLE PERMIT FEE, UH, WE INITIALLY, WE HAD A, A, A PERMIT FEE OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER VEHICLE, UM, WITH NO REQUIRED REVENUE SHARE.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE WE SAW WAS A COMBINATION OF SUBMITTALS, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE THREE APPLICANTS, UM, TO NARROW THAT DOWN TO A, A, UM, A FEE, UM, THAT IS A, A COMBINATION OF REVENUE SHARE PLUS A PER, UH, VEHICLE FEE.

OKAY.

UM, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE SLIDE NOW, IT'S 1616, BUT, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, THEY, THEY WILL ALL BE ON THE SAME CONTRACT TERMS WHEN IT COMES TO THE REVENUE SHARE.

UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM ALL IN THE SAME ONE.

UM, WE MAY END UP WITH AN EITHER OR, UM, BUT WE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS CONSISTENT AMOUNT OF REVENUE FROM EACH COMPANY.

SO IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF EITHER A HIGH PER VEHICLE, UM, FEE YES.

UM, WITH A LOWER REVENUE SHARE.

BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS.

I THINK ANDY WANTED TO JUMP IN.

UH, I WAS JUST GONNA REINFORCE THAT FROM A CONTRACTUAL STANDPOINT, WE'RE GONNA, UH, TRY OUR BEST IN FACT THAT THE, THERE'LL ONLY BE DIFFERENCES IF IT'S UNIQUE TO A PARTICULAR PROVIDER, THAT WE HAVE ALL THE SAME TERMS IN THE ALL THREE CONTRACTS.

OKAY.

AND YOU, AND YOU'RE ESTIMATING, UH, BASED ON OUR COST TO OPERATE THE PROGRAM, TO ENFORCE THE PROGRAM, F Y 2020 IS GONNA ROUGHLY COST ABOUT 430,000.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF ANY INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS AND THE PROGRAM COORDINATORS AND ALL THAT.

RIGHT? THAT INCLUDES THE, UH, THE STAFF COMPLIMENT AND, UM, THE PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN THE REMAINDER REMAINING, UH, REVENUE.

WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU ALL, UM, AS COUNCIL TO DETERMINE HOW WOULD WE PROGRAM THAT REVENUE.

OKAY.

IT MAY BE FOR MORE SCOOTER INFRASTRUCTURE, OR IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME TRANSPORTATION TYPE INITIATIVES.

WELL, LET, LET ME THROW OUT THIS.

UM, AND I'VE TALKED TO ERIC A. LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, UM, SINCE WE'RE STILL IN THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION PHASE, UM, BCYCLE HAS BEEN INTERRUPTED, UH, BY NEW TECHNOLOGIES, AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT BCYCLE AND OUR MULTIMODAL CAPACITY AND, AND ALTERNATIVES TO EVOLVE AS WELL MM-HMM.

, UH, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE, UH, THE LARGER ECOSYSTEM OF MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION BENEFIT IN SOME WAY WITH THE DELTA BETWEEN WHAT IT COSTS FOR US TO OPERATE THE PROGRAM MM-HMM.

AND WHAT THE REVENUE IS BRINGING IN,

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AND LOVE TO SEE AND HEAR WHAT THE COMPANIES HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

UH, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE IF WE JUST LET IT HAPPEN AND NOT, YOU KNOW, ASSERT OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANT BCYCLE TO, TO CONTINUE IN SAN ANTONIO UNDER WHAT KIND OF, UM, UH, SCHEME.

I'M NOT SURE IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN OF THE PROGRAM AND WHAT TECHNOLOGIES ARE BEING USED, BUT THAT'S A LARGER PART OF A BIG PICTURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE WITH REGARD TO ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

SO MM-HMM.

, UM, IF THEY HAVE INPUT ON THAT, I'M SURE IT WOULD BE TO OUR BENEFIT.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND, UH, REVENUE SHARING AS WELL.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, YOU TOUCHED ON ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GONNA ASK, AND THAT WAS WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UM, DESIGNATED LANES, UM, I KNOW THAT WE'VE PASSED ORDINANCE WHERE SCOOTERS CANNOT BE ON THE SIDEWALKS MM-HMM.

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AND SO AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, LOOKING AT DESIGNATED LANES FOR SAFETY REASONS, UM, IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS GONNA BE LOOKED AT AS WELL, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT.

UM, YEAH.

I THINK WHAT THIS, UH, CONTRACT, UM, WILL DO FOR US IS GIVE US THAT DATA TO SHOW WHERE OUR PEOPLE RIDING THESE VEHICLES.

AND SO IT'S, UM, IT'LL GIVE US SOME IDEAS OF WHERE, UM, TO RECOMMEND TARGETING INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, NOT ONLY FOR SCOOTERS, BUT FOR BICYCLES AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

UM, AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO THE TREND IN THE TRANSPORTED ACCIDENTS AND NON TRANSPORT ACCIDENTS WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED FOR THEM TO NOT BE ON SIDEWALKS, HAVE WE SEEN ANY KIND OF UPTAKE OR UPWARD? UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS A GENERAL DECLINE IN THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS, BUT WE, WE'VE HAD SUCH A SHORT PERIOD, UM, TO GATHER DATA.

UM, RIGHT NOW, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD KIND OF BE GUESSTIMATING, IF YOU WILL, ON WHAT, WHAT REALLY THAT, THAT IMPACT MAY BE.

WE'VE SEEN IT COULD JUST BE THAT THERE'S LESS PEOPLE RIDING, SO THEREFORE THERE'S LESS ACCIDENTS.

UM, IT COULD BE THAT THE VEHICLES ARE GETTING BETTER.

UM, AND SO IT'S, IT MAY BE A COMBINATION OF ALL THOSE THINGS.

IT'S REALLY HARD TO PINPOINT ONE THING, UM, WHICH IS WITH SUCH A SHORT TIME PERIOD THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, TO REVIEW IT ALL.

UM, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE, UM, COULD PERHAPS, UM, UM, POINT TO, TO SAY THOSE PROBABLY ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE LEADING TO LESS ACCIDENTS.

IT'S, IT'S BETTER RIDER EDUCATION.

PEOPLE ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE VEHICLES NOW.

THE VEHICLES ARE GETTING BETTER.

UM, PART OF IT MAY BE THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ALLOWING, UM, RIDING ON SIDEWALK.

ONE OF OUR OBSERVATIONS WAS, UM, WHEN WE RECOMMENDED THAT WAS THAT WE, UM, WE, WE WERE SEEING A TREND IN WHAT, UM, WE WERE HEARING WAS, IS THAT THE TRANSITION TO AND FROM THE SIDEWALK TO THE STREET IS NOT NECESSARILY, UM, MEANT FOR, FOR WHEELS TO BE RIDING ON.

THAT MAY BE A CAUSE OF IT WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRANSITIONING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER.

SO THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT COULD CONTRIBUTE TO THAT, BUT WITH JUST SUCH LITTLE DATA, IT'S HARD TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

AND I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE HELMET GIVEAWAYS, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY NEXT QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO TOUCHED ON, WAS DOING THE SAFETY AND WRITER EDUCATION WHERE WE ARE GONNA BE DOING SOME FORM OF A CAMPAIGN WITH HELMETS AND MAYBE SAFETY PADS OR SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE SOME FAMILIES THAT LIKE TO RIDE DOUBLE ON A SCOOTER MM-HMM.

WITH SMALLER CHILDREN AND SEEING HOW WE COULD TRULY, UM, IMPLEMENT THAT.

OR IS THERE A SYSTEM THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE SCOOTER THAT LETS YOU KNOW THAT IT'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON ON THE SCOOTER? HOW DOES THAT ALL COME INTO PLAY? YEAH.

THERE, THERE HAS BEEN, UM, SOME SUGGESTION FROM SOME OF THE COMPANIES THAT, THAT TECHNOLOGY MAY, MIGHT BE, UM, COMING TO US, UM, RELATIVELY SOON WHERE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO, UM, DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT TWO PEOPLE ARE ON A SCOOTER.

UM, IF, IF THE WEIGHT SUDDENLY CHANGES ON THE SCOOTER, UM, IT, IT, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S STILL IN DEVELOPMENT.

UM, BUT THAT, BUT POTENTIALLY WE MIGHT SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

I THINK RIGHT NOW OUR FOCUS IS, IS ON THAT RIDER EDUCATION, UM, AND THEN ENFORCEMENT.

AWESOME.

AND THEN AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE PARKING, ARE WE LOOKING AT MAYBE DOING PARKING SIGNAGE? IS IT GONNA BE JUST A BLOCKED OFF AREA? UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BESIDES MAYBE PARKING SPACES OR WRECKS? UM, SURE.

KIND OF LIKE PARK HERE SIGNS.

YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF ALL OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

IT'S A, AND SOME COMBINATION OF THAT AS WELL.

SO, UM, WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT WE WANT TO IDENTIFY ACTUAL WHAT ARE CURRENTLY PARKING SPACES FOR CARS ON STREET PARKING, UM, WHERE WE WOULD CREATE A CORRAL.

SO IT'S BLOCKED OFF AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, DOCKLESS VEHICLES.

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UM, AND THEN, AND THAT PROBABLY WOULD INCLUDE SOME SIGNAGE TOO, TO INDICATE THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT'S FOR.

UM, THAT COULD ALSO BE PUT INTO THEIR APPS, INTO THEIR G P S, UM, SYSTEM AS PART OF THE GEOFENCING.

SO RIDERS KNOW, UM, THEY CAN, THEY CAN, UM, KIND OF PREDICT AHEAD OF TIME OR PLAN AHEAD OF IT AHEAD OF TIME THAT, UM, THAT IF THEY'RE GOING SOMEWHERE, THEY KNOW THERE'S ONE OF THOSE NEARBY AND IF THEY GO TO THAT, THEY MAY GET SOME INCENTIVE FOR DOING THAT.

UM, SIMILAR TO BICYCLE RACKS, A SCOOTER RACK, UM, THAT IS, AGAIN, PROBABLY HAS SIGNAGE INDICATING THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR.

UM, WE HAVE HAD, WE THINK, GOOD SUCCESS WITH THE KIND OF, UM, STENCILS OR TEMPLATES THAT WE'VE PLACED ON THE SIDEWALKS.

UM, THOSE ARE REALLY DONE KIND OF AS, AS A PILOT IN, IN, ARE SOMEWHAT TEMPORARY.

UM, SO WE'LL DO SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT, UM, THAT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OBVIOUS THAT IT, THAT IT, UM, THAT IT'S THERE AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S, IT'S USED FOR.

UM, AND THEN MAYBE EVEN THE, THE, THE COMPANIES MAYBE CREATE SOME PARTNERSHIP WITH SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ACTUALLY CREATE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE ON THEIR PROPERTY AS WELL.

SO IF YOU HAVE A, A, UH, A BUSINESS, UM, THAT MAYBE GETS A HIGH AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TO IT, THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO PARTNER WITH A PRIVATE, UM, PROPERTY OWNER TO DO SOME, SOME INFRASTRUCTURES THERE AS WELL.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARRY ANDREWS SULLIVAN, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE PRESENTATION.

UH, I SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION TO LIFT, UH, THE NIGHT RESTRICTIONS.

UH, IF YOU RECALL WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE R F P AND THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PILOT PROGRAM, I, I DIDN'T SUPPORT THE, THE RESTRICTIONS ON NIGHTTIME, UH, SCOOTER USE.

I'M GLAD TO, TO SEE THAT.

UM, I, I WANTED TO, UH, ASK ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE WORKING GROUP, UH, THE WORKING GROUP, AND IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CONTRACT ONCE IT'S SIGNED MM-HMM.

.

AND IS THAT WORKING GROUP, UH, DOES THAT HAVE OVERLAP WITH YOUR REVIEW GROUP OF THE, THE R F P REVIEW GROUP? UM, THERE, THERE POTENTIALLY MAY BE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ON THE, UM, EVALUATION COMMITTEE THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THAT WORKING GROUP.

I THINK IT'S MORE LOOKING FOR THAT EXPERTISE.

SO, UM, IT MAY BE SOMEONE FROM ART, IT MAY NOT BE ART HIMSELF.

IT MIGHT BE SOMEBODY FROM HIS TEAM, MAYBE.

UM, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE OUTSIDE THE CITY, UH, PARTICIPANTS.

OH, YES.

AND SO THEY'RE, UM, I THINK THEY'LL CONTINUE TO BE STAKEHOLDERS AND, AND, AND PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.

UM, THERE MAY BE, UM, UM, THE HOTEL LODGING ASSOCIATION, FOR EXAMPLE, IS ONE THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, VERY IMPACTED.

THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, VEHICLE PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESSES, MAYBE THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION AS WELL.

UM, SO I THINK, YES, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHO WILL BE ON THAT COMMITTEE OR WHO WILL BE PART OF THAT WORKING GROUP, BUT I THINK IT WILL DEPEND ON MAYBE THE TOPIC.

UM, IT MAY BE A, UM, SOME INDIVIDUALS MAY, IT MAY BE RELEVANT OR IT MAY NOT BE.

SO WE MAY HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND OUT.

I THINK YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY BE INVOLVED.

YOU MENTIONED THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION, HOTEL LODGING ASSOCIATION, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES I THINK WOULD ALSO BE IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE WHEN IT COMES TO DISCUSSIONS ON WHERE THOSE SCOOTERS ARE GOING TO BE PARKED.

RIGHT.

UM, SO COULD I GET YOUR COMMITMENT TO INVITE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN PROCESS? ABSOLUTELY, YES.

THANK YOU.

UM, UH, AND THEN REVISITING, UH, SOME OF THE GOALS FOR THE R F P, UH, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS AT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE IN THE SPRING, UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT SAFETY AND DATA SHARING, AND I KNOW, UM, THE COUNCILWOMAN SULLIVAN ASKED ABOUT HELMETS.

AND, UH, BACK WHEN YOU PRESENTED THOSE GOALS FOR THE R F P, WE SAID, YOU SAID THAT ONE OF THE GOALS WOULD BE MAKING HELMETS AVAILABLE.

I KNOW WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT MAKING THEM MANDATORY, BUT RIGHT.

SO THAT DID NOT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ACHIEVE THROUGH THE R F P SO FAR.

UM, NOT REALLY.

THERE WERE A, UH, THERE WAS ONE PROPOSAL THAT DID, UM, UM, I GUESS ATTEMPT TO HAVE HELMETS BE AVAILABLE WITH EVERY SCOOTER.

UM, IT WAS, UM, THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT IT SEEMED TO BE UNPROVEN AND, AND NOT REALLY REALISTIC.

UM, BUT I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, THE, THE HELMET TOPIC HAS BEEN CENTERED AROUND, UM, EITHER THE COMPANIES PROVIDING HELMETS UPON REQUESTS.

SO IF YOU, UM, ASK THE COMPANY FOR A HELMET, THEY WOULD PROVIDE IT TO YOU MAY NOT BE IMMEDIATELY, BUT IT WOULD BE WE'LL MAIL ONE TO YOU, OR YOU CAN COME PICK ONE UP AT A, AT A, AT A CENTRAL LOCATION.

UM, BUT PRIMARILY IT'S BEEN MORE FOCUSED ON EDUCATION OPPORTUNITY AND THEN GIVING HELMETS AWAY, UM, AT LIKE A SPECIAL EVENT.

UM, SOME OF THE COMPANIES HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT.

UM, THEY'VE EITHER GONE OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND HELD AN EVENT AND, AND GAVE AWAY FREE HELMETS.

SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY DID IT DOWNTOWN WHERE THEY JUST SET UP A, A, A TEMPORARY KIND OF, UM, LOCATION.

UM, IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO KIND OF LEARN ABOUT IT AND AT THE SAME TIME

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ALSO GET A HELMET.

MM-HMM.

, THOSE ARE, I, I THINK THOSE ARE HELPFUL THINGS I'VE BEEN TO HEL SOME HELMET GIVEAWAYS FOR, FOR BICYCLES.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KI TO FIND A WAY TO LINK THE GIVEAWAY TO THE USER MM-HMM.

, UH, THEMSELVES, SO THAT IT, UM, 'CAUSE IT MAY BE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CROWD, RIGHT.

WHEN YOU DO A GIVEAWAY VERSUS FOLKS WHO ARE ARE WRITING.

SO, UH, PERHAPS THERE'S A WAY TO INTEGRATE, THIS IS ALL APP BASED, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, UH, NOT SO MUCH REQUIRING THE HELMET, BUT MAKING THAT OPTION TO REQUEST.

RIGHT.

THE HELMET, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY SEND A RECEIPT TO SOMEONE AFTER A RIDE, BECAUSE YOU SAID USERS CAN REQUEST IT FROM THE COMPANY.

YEAH.

SEVERAL COMPANIES HAVE, UM, AT TIMES, UM, SAID ON THEIR APP, IF YOU WANT A HELMET, UM, WE'LL SEND ONE TO YOU.

AND SO YOU'VE, YOU DON'T GET IT FOR THAT RIDE, OF COURSE, BUT YOU HAVE TO WAIT AND WE'LL MAIL IT TO YOU OR, UM, ATTEND ONE OF OUR EVENTS.

YOU CAN GET ONE THERE.

UM, OR, UM, THEY'RE, THEY, UM, WILL ESTABLISH LIKE A CENTRALIZED LOCATION WHERE MAYBE YOU CAN GO GET ONE.

UM, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS PERHAPS, UM, THEM PARTNERING WITH SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN, UM, BUSINESSES SUCH AS SOME OF THE HOTELS AND MAYBE ACTUALLY EVEN PROVIDING THEM THERE.

SO IF YOU'RE STAYING AT THE HOTEL, UM, YOU CAN GO DOWN TO THE LOBBY AND REQUEST A HELMET MAYBE.

UM, AND THE, AND THE, THE COMPANIES COULD HAVE A, A, A SUPPLY OF HELMETS BASICALLY AVAILABLE, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO USE.

UM, AND MAYBE EVEN KEEP, OH, OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR VISITORS.

AND THEN WE, WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN HELP OUR LOCALS ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE, UH, A HELMET.

MAYBE THERE'S A HELMET DISCOUNT FEE.

UH, OF COURSE THAT PROBABLY HASN'T BEEN WORKED INTO YOUR NUMBERS, BUT, UH, DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT BEFORE WE SIGN THE CONTRACTS? UH, I THINK SO, YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, THEN THE, THE LAST QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK HAD TO DO WITH THE, THE PARKING.

UM, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD SUPPORT, UH, HAVING THOSE PARKING CORRALS BE IN VEHICULAR PARKING SPACES OR ON THE STREET AS OPPOSED TO TAKING UP A SIDEWALK SPACE.

AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, WE'RE HAVING, UH, ON ANOTHER TRACK, A VERY HEATED DEBATE ABOUT SIDEWALK SPACE MM-HMM.

AND, AND WHAT'S SUFFICIENT, SO, RIGHT.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE WIDER, THE SAFER, THE, THE SIDEWALK.

SURE.

SO OBVIOUSLY TAKING UP WITH TAKING UP SPACE WITH THOSE CORRALS WOULD, WOULD INHIBIT THAT.

UM, SO IT, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY TO HAVE THEM ONLY BE ON THE STREETS? UM, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE.

WE, WE, UM, OUR CHALLENGE WE HAD EARLY ON, WE WERE TRYING TO IDENTIFY THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE THAT, THERE, THERE JUST WASN'T ON STREET PARKING EVEN AVAILABLE IN THAT AREA AT ALL.

UM, AND SO WE NEEDED TO IDENTIFY THOSE, UM, KIND OF OFF STREET AREAS.

AND, AND OUR FOCUS THEN WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE IDENTIFYING THOSE AREAS THAT ARE, UM, PERHAPS THAT'S SIDEWALK, BUT IT'S SIDEWALK THAT TYPICALLY, UM, IS NOT THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY.

SO YOU MAY VERY, YOU MAY HAVE A, A, IT'S ALMOST ESSENTIALLY A PLAZA, UM, IN FRONT OF AN AREA WHERE THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO GET AROUND.

UM, THOSE AREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN BETWEEN STREET FURNITURE, UM, WHERE PEOPLE JUST AREN'T WALKING BECAUSE THERE'S A BENCH AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S A TRASHCAN AND THEN THERE'S A TREE.

WELL, UM, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE WOULDN'T DO IT, BUT, BUT WE, WE AGREE AND THAT WAS REALLY OUR GOAL WAS TO, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE NARROW SIDEWALKS, UM, DO THE BEST WE CAN TO IDENTIFY THE, UM, ON STREET, UM, PARKING OPPORTUNITIES, SO WE'RE NOT, UM, PUTTING, UM, VEHICLES ON THOSE NARROW SIDEWALKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE, THERE AREN'T ON STREET PARKING OPPORTUNITIES, WE SEND CARS TO SOMETHING CALLED OFF STREET PARKING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

WHICH IS NEITHER THE SIDEWALK NOR THE STREET.

SO, UM, WHILE WE DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY, UH, I THINK THAT MAY BE, UH, ANOTHER OPTION.

WE, WE SHOULD EXPLORE WHEN THE SIDEWALKS DON'T, UH, DON'T ALLOW.

SO WHETHER IT'S A PARKING SPOT IN, IN SOMEONE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, PARKING LOT, AND WE, WE'VE STARTED LOOKING AT OUR OWN PARKING FACILITIES AS WELL, UM, FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

SO, UM, I THINK OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE THE ON STREET PARKING, UM, AGAIN, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS WHERE IT'S, WHERE SIDEWALK AVAILABILITY IS VERY NARROW.

UM, AND THEN, AND THEN ONLY IF, UM, IN AREAS WE'RE VERY, THE SIDEWALK'S VERY WIDE, UM, BUT ALSO START LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAYBE AREN'T EITHER ONE OF THOSE.

OKAY.

UM, LIKE PRIVATE PROPERTY OR PROPERTY WE OWN.

UM, GREAT.

UH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT ALTERNATIVE.

AND SO WHEN WILL WE, WHEN WILL WE KNOW WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE? UH, RIGHT NOW OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THAT PARKING FRAMEWORK, UM, DONE KIND OF FEBRUARY THROUGH APRIL.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO I THINK SOME THINGS WILL BE VERY QUICK MM-HMM.

, UM, WHERE, WHERE IT'S VERY OBVIOUS.

UM, BUT, AND THEN WE'LL SLOWLY START TO IDENTIFY OTHER LOCATIONS AND, AND HOPEFULLY BE DONE BY APRIL.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AFTER THAT, UM, FOR BRIEFING ON, UH, THE NIGHTTIME WRITING AND THEN, AND THEN

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ALSO JUST AN UPDATE ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRA.

THANKS MAYOR.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND INFORMATION.

UH, I THINK I WANNA JUMP BACK TO THE POINTS.

UH, PLEASE IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE NUMBER, UH, THE INITIAL EVALUATION AND THEN TO, UM, THE FINAL EVALUATION.

AND MAYBE I'LL HAVE TROY COME UP PLEASE AND EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.

AND SLIDE NUMBER 10, I, I JUST WANNA KNOW ABOUT THE LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS BECAUSE, UM, IN ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT I SAW, IT HAD THE ADDRESS OF THE, UM, THE LOCATIONS.

AND I KNOW LYFT HAD AN ADDRESS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

BYRD HAS AN ADDRESS IN SAN FRANCISCO.

THEY HAVE FIVE LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS.

AND I KNOW BYRD ALSO HAS AN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE LOCATION HERE IN SAN ANTONIO TOO.

SO, UM, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOU DISTRIBUTED THESE LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS.

SURE.

WHEN LOOKING AT LOCAL, MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

SO AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE'S 10 POINTS IN TOTAL THAT YOU CAN ACHIEVE.

AND TO GET THOSE FULL 10 POINTS, YOU HAVE TO BE HEADQUARTERED IN SAN ANTONIO FOR A YEAR OR MORE SO HEADQUARTERED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OR CITY LIMITS OF SAN ANTONIO.

IF YOU'RE NOT HEADQUARTERED, YOU CAN'T HAVE A LOCAL OFFICE, AND THE LOCAL OFFICE HAS TO BE HERE FOR A YEAR OR MORE AS WELL.

AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT BUSINESS PRESENCE, WHICH IS 20% OF YOUR WORKFORCE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, OR A HUNDRED OR MORE EMPLOYEES.

IF YOU SATISFY THAT CONDITION, YOU CAN GET FIVE POINTS.

AND SO IN LOOKING AT, AND EACH OF THESE COMPANIES WILL SUPPLY A, UM, LOCAL PREFERENCE FORM THAT WE VALIDATE, AND IT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

AND BYRD HAS A, UM, LOCAL OFFICE HERE FOR A YEAR OR MORE MATTER OF FACT, AT, AT THE TIME THE PROPOSALS CAME IN, THAT OFFICE HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR A YEAR AND A MONTH.

SO THEY MEET THAT REQUIREMENT AND THEY HAVE OVER A HUNDRED, UM, WHICH WE LOOK AT FULL-TIME, PART-TIME, AND CONTRACT EMPLOYEES.

THE OTHER COMPANIES MAY HAVE LOCAL OFFICES HERE, BUT THEY DID NOT SATISFY THE YEAR OR MORE REQUIREMENT.

SO THAT'S HOW BYRD, UM, OBTAINED THE FIVE POINTS.

OKAY.

AND SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH.

I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THIS ONE.

UM, DO THE OTHER THREE THAT HAVE BEEN SELECTED, DO THEY HAVE A, A LOCAL DISTRIBUTION OR LOCAL MAINTENANCE CENTER THAT THEY, DO THEY HAVE IT CURRENTLY OR WILL THEY HAVE THAT? UM, THE ONLY ONE I'M AWARE OF THAT HAS ANYTHING AS FAR AS A, A LOCAL MAINTENANCE FACILITY IS LIME, UM, JUST RECENTLY, UM, CONSTRUCTED A OR IS CONSTRUCTING A MAINTENANCE FACILITY.

UM, I'M NOT SURE ON, UM, ON LIFT, UM, OR RAZOR, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD, I, I'M SURE THEY HAVE LOCAL, UM, MAINTENANCE, BUT I'M NOT SURE TO WHAT LEVEL.

OKAY.

AND WAS THAT PART OF OUR R F P PROCESS? IT WAS NOT, NO, IT WAS NOT.

UM, SO WHEN THERE'S MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, UM, ON SOME OF THESE, THESE VEHICLES, UM, WHAT HAPPENS? JUST FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION, UH, WELL, IT, IT, IT KIND OF VARIES FROM COMPANY TO COMPANY UHHUH, BUT, UM, TYPICALLY, UM, THEY WILL HAVE, UM, SOME INDIVIDUALS, UM, ARE STRICTLY FOCUSED ON MAINTENANCE.

UM, SO IF A VEHICLE'S REPORTED AS DAMAGED, UM, THEY WOULD COLLECT THOSE VEHICLES.

SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO REPAIR IT IN THE FIELD, UM, OR THEY MAY HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK TO A, A MAINTENANCE, UM, WORKSHOP SOMEWHERE HERE IN TOWN.

AND DO WE HAVE A STANDARD THAT WE'RE WORK LOOKING AT WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY OF THESE VEHICLES AND THE, THE STATE OF THESE VEHICLES? WE WOULD, WE'D HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UM, ONE WOULD BE JUST WHAT'S THE REPORTING, UM, FOR A A, A VEHICLE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE'D HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT SAYS IF A VEHICLE'S BEING REPORTED AS DAMAGED OR MALFUNCTION, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO TURN IT OFF BASICALLY.

UM, AND THEN ALSO HAVE, WE HAVE THE CURRENTLY IS THAT IF A VEHICLE'S REPORTED AS, AS, UM, SOME MAINTENANCE ISSUE, THEY HAVE TWO HOURS TO REMOVE THAT VEHICLE, UM, FROM THE STREET.

UM, AND THEN AS, AS PART OF THE CONTRACT, WE WOULD HAVE SOME MAINTENANCE CRITERIA THAT THEY NEED TO, UM, MAINTAIN THEIR VEHICLES IN A, IN A SAFE AND UM, UM, FASHION.

UM, AND THAT MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING LOOKED AT PERIODICALLY.

UM, SOME OF THE COMPANIES, UM, LIKE LYFT, I BELIEVE MENTIONED THAT THEY TOUCH THEIR VEHICLES EVERY DAY, SO THEY HAVE SOMEBODY ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THEM, INSPECTING THEM EVERY DAY.

UM, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND THAT WAS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT IN THESE QUALITY PROPOSALS WERE, UM, WHAT, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY TOUCHING VEHICLES? UM, HOW VERSUS HOW LONG IS THE VEHICLE SITTING OUT THERE AND, AND NEVER BEING, BEING LOOKED AT.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT DATA THAT IF WE GET SOMETHING ON 3 1 1, OUR 3 0 1 APP THAT SAYS, OH, UM, A BRAKE HANDLE IS BROKEN, RIGHT.

UM, WE WILL ALSO COLLECT THAT DATA, OR THEY WILL ALREADY KNOW AS WELL.

THE COMPANIES WILL KNOW THAT AS WELL.

IT, IT, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE BOTH.

IT COULD BE ONE OR THE OTHER.

UM, IT COULD BE THAT SOMEONE TRIED TO RENT A VEHICLE, UM, AND WHEN THEY WENT TO RENT IT, THEY NOTICED THAT IT WAS, IT WAS MALFUNCTIONED THAT MAYBE THE, THE BRAKES WERE MISSING, THE BRAKE HANDLE WAS BROKE OR SOMETHING.

UM,

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THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RIDER AT THAT POINT TO REPORT IT.

OKAY.

UM, AND WHEN IT'S REPORTED, THEN THE, THE COMPANY KNOWS ABOUT IT, AND THEN THEY WOULD GO, UM, REMOVE THAT VEHICLE FIRST.

THEY WOULD SHUT IT OFF SO IT CAN'T BE RENTED.

UM, AND THEN THEY WOULD GO PICK THAT VEHICLE UP AND, AND, AND FIX IT.

UM, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHEN THAT'S HAPPENING.

SO THAT'S PART OF THAT DATA SHARE REQUIREMENT, IS THAT, HOW RESPONSIVE ARE THEY BEING TO VEHICLES THAT ARE BEING REPORTED AS BROKEN? SOMETIMES IT'S IN THE OTHER, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT A RIDER, FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE WHEN I'VE JUST HAPPENED TO BE WALKING AND I SEE A VEHICLE BROKEN.

I'LL REPORT THAT ON THE 3 1 1 APP.

UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE TWO HOURS TO COME, UM, AND REMOVE THAT VEHICLE FROM THE, FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.

OKAY.

UM, AND SO YOU MENTIONED THAT I KNOW LYFT HAS A LOCAL OFFICE, AND YOU SAID LYME NOW HAS AN LOCAL OFFICE.

UH, LYME, UH, IT WAS REPORTED LYME HAS, UH, OR NOT REPORTED, THEY, THEY DID MENTION THIS TOO IN THEIR PROPOSAL.

LIME HAS BUILT A, A BASICALLY A REGIONAL MAINTENANCE FACILITY, UM, FOR THIS AREA.

SO THEY MAY BE, UM, MAINTAINING DEALS NOT JUST FROM SAN ANTONIO, BUT FROM OTHER REGIONS, OTHER AREAS.

WHERE IS THEIR REGIONAL OFFICE BUILT AT? UM, I WANNA SAY IT'S OVER NEAR THE AIRPORT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

OKAY.

IF I CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

SURE.

OKAY.

THE DEFINITE LOCATION, PLEASE.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, RAZOR, WILL THEY HAVE A LOCAL PRESENCE? I, I, I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO, IN ORDER TO DO MAINTENANCE OF VEHICLES, THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME LOCAL, UM, FACILITY THAT THEY'RE OPERATING OUT OF.

IT'S EITHER A, IT'S A FACILITY WHERE THERE, UM, UM, MAINTENANCE IS OCCURRING WHERE THEY MAY BE STORING VEHICLES THAT ARE AWAITING DISTRIBUTION.

OKAY.

UM, SO I THINK, UM, IF WE'RE, WE DO REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A LOCAL, UM, UM, TEAM THAT RESPONDS TO ISSUES.

OKAY.

SO THEY WILL, ALL OF THESE THREE WILL HAVE A LOCAL TEAM THAT RESPONDS TO THESE ISSUES? YES.

AND WE HAVE THAT TODAY.

RIGHT.

WE WANNA HAVE SOMEBODY OUT OF AUSTIN DRIVING DOWN WHEN SOMETHING'S REPORTED THAT WILL BE HERE LOCAL.

OKAY.

THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.

RIGHT.

UH, THAT AND RESPOND CORRECTLY, YES.

DIRECTLY TO US, YES.

OKAY.

AND I THINK IF WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT LOCAL DISTRIBUTIONS OR MAINTENANCE, MAYBE CONTINUE JUST TO FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE QUESTIONS WITH THEM.

I MEAN, WE ARE GIVING AN R F P AND AWARDING THIS, THESE CONTRACTS, SO WE SHOULD HAVE DEFINITIVE ANSWERS MOVING FORWARD.

SURE.

SO I WOULD LIKE DEFINITIVE ANSWERS MOVING FORWARD.

UM, THANK YOU.

I AM, UH, FINE WITH, I GUESS YOU, IF YOU CAN JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NIGHTTIME, UH, RE REMOVING THE NIGHTTIME CURFEW.

UM, I DON'T THINK I, I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE IT FOR SIX MONTHS, OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO REMOVE IT FOR SIX MONTHS.

WE ARE, UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A, A NIGHTTIME WRITING CURFEW.

OKAY.

UM, WE'RE BASED, BASICALLY, ALL VEHICLES ARE TURNED OFF, SO THEY CANNOT BE RIDDEN.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

IN THE, IN THE LATE HOURS.

I REMEMBER THAT.

RIGHT.

UM, AND WE, UM, WE DID THAT BACK IN, UM, FEBRUARY.

MM-HMM.

, UH, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN FROM THE COMPANIES THAT THERE MAY BE SOME THIRD SHIFT EMPLOYEES, UM, THAT, THAT THAT'S AN OP TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM THAT'S NOW NOT AVAILABLE.

SURE.

UM, OUR CONCERN WAS, IS THAT WE WERE SEEING, UM, NIGHTTIME ACCIDENTS.

UM, WE THINK NOW, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME TIME TO, TO REVIEW IT.

THE, THE, UM, VEHICLES HAVE GOTTEN BETTER.

UM, SO WE THINK THEY'RE SAFER.

OKAY.

UM, TIRES ARE BIGGER, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE HITTING THOSE IMPERFECTIONS IN THE ROAD AT NIGHT WHEN YOU MAYBE COULDN'T SEE THEM, UM, UM, IT'S LESS LIKELY, UM, PERHAPS YOU'D HAVE AN ACCIDENT.

UM, BUT ALSO HAVING, UH, JUST THREE OPERATORS AND NOW GETTING THE DATA.

'CAUSE WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WAS THE DATA SHOWING, WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY RIDING AT THAT TIME.

UM, NOW THAT THAT DATA WILL BE AVAILABLE, WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE, UM, WHAT'S THE RIDERSHIP LIKE IN THE EVENING, WHERE ARE THEY GOING, UM, WHAT ROUTES ARE THEY TAKING? UM, AND THEN, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS AND REPORT, UM, TO YOU ALL ON, ON WHAT WE'RE FINDING, UM, THAT WE, WE THINK IT'S, UM, IT'S BETTER SO WE CAN JUST, JUST, IT'S BASICALLY NOT HAVE, CONTINUE NOT HAVING IT OR SO JUST AN UPDATE IN SIX MONTHS YOU'LL SAY, RIGHT, YES.

IT WAS A GOOD MOVE.

WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD RECONSIDER SOMETHING.

EXACTLY.

AND ALL THE VEHICLES HAVE LIGHTS ON THE FRONT OF THEM, CORRECT? THEY DO.

THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THE BACK TOO.

OH, OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT.

UM, ANSWERING THAT, UM, FOR THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF Y'ALL'S PARTICIPATION.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION JUST FOR THE RECORD HERE.

UM, I SEE THERE'S A PICTURE OF LORENZO ON ONE OF THEM, BUT DID WE GET, UM, OTHERS WRITING ON IT? LIKE DID ART REINHARDT AND LORI HOUSTON JUMP ON ONE AND RIDE AROUND? UH, DID NOT WITH THE HELMET? UH, NO, LORENZO WAS NOT ON THE COMMITTEE.

THAT'S JUST A PICTURE OF HIM.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S JUST A PICTURE OF HIM.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, NO, UH, THEY DID NOT.

BUT, UM, THERE, THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT HAVE RIDDEN OR, OR THAT DO RIDE SCOOTERS.

UM, CHERISE RO ALLUNI FROM, UM, LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD IS A VERY AVID SCOOTER USER.

SO SHE

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WAS, UM, A GREAT ASSET TO HAVE ON THE COM, UM, TO KIND OF SHARE HER EXPERIENCES, NOT ONLY AS A RESIDENT OF LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE ISSUES THEY'VE SEEN, BUT ALSO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A RIDER MM-HMM.

AS WELL.

SO SHE WAS, UM, SHE WAS A, A GOOD INDIVIDUAL TO GET FEEDBACK FROM, AND SHE GAVE THE INFORMATION TO HELP WITH THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE FOR ALL OF THE, SHE USED SOME OF HER PERS OF HER EXPERIENCE AND WRITING THEM, BUT THEN ALSO, UM, HER, UM, THOUGHTS ON WHAT THE NEW KIND OF NEW GENERATION OF VEHICLES THAT ARE BEING PROPO PROPOSED, WHAT THEY WOULD BE LIKE AS WELL.

OKAY.

AND SPEAKING OF NEW, UH, GENERATION OF VEHICLES, UM, WE MENTIONED THE, THE DOCKLESS, UH, BICYCLES, THE DOCK DOCKLESS BIKES, AND, UM, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING WITH SWELL CYCLE, UH, MOVING FORWARD IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE STAYING THERE OR NOT.

UM, BUT THEN I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN BECAUSE SOME OF THE, UH, NEXT GENERATION VEHICLES AND SCOOTERS THAT WE SEE, UH, I GOT A PICTURE SOMETIME, UH, LAST WEEK OF A SCOOTER IN AUSTIN, AND IT LOOKS LIKE A VESPA OF SORTS MM-HMM.

THAT ARE ON THE SIDEWALKS.

RIGHT.

UM, ON CONGRESS, ON SOUTH CONGRESS IN AUSTIN.

SO WE, SO IS THAT PART OF THE NEXT GENERATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO POTENTIALLY COME? OR CAN WE SAY NO, NOT THAT IF, IF IT MEETS OUR DEFINITION OF, OF A DOCKLESS VEHICLE, THEN YES, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED.

SO DOES IT MEET OUR DE DEFINITION OF A DOCKLESS VEHICLE? THOSE THO IF, IF IT'S WHAT I'M THINKING OF IT, YES, IT WOULD.

RIGHT.

IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE VESPA OR LIKE ONE OF THOSE SCOOTERS.

IT'S A, UH, IT'S A SIT DOWN RIGHT.

SCOOTER.

UM, SO THERE'S, UM, RAZOR OBVIOUSLY HAS THOSE NOW OUT THERE TODAY.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE ONE THAT, THAT YOU SAW, BUT IT'S A SIMILAR STYLE.

IT'S ONE THAT YOU CAN SIT DOWN ON, HAS LARGER WHEELS.

UM, THOSE I THINK ARE, UH, ARE MAYBE A DIFFERENT NICHE.

THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE TO RENT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, FOR KIND OF LONGER TRIPS.

I THINK, UM, IT'S POTENTIAL THAT ONE OF THE THREE COMPANIES THAT WE WOULD CONTRACT WITH COULD, UM, INTRODUCE SIMILAR VEHICLES, UM, TO THE MARKET, UM, FROM, FROM WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IN AUSTIN.

SO IT'S A, UM, IT'S A VEHICLE THAT MAYBE SERVES A, A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PURPOSE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL, SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE LONGER, UH, RIDE.

SO THAT, MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THEN WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT PARKING ON SIDEWALKS.

SURE.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN IDENTIFIED WHERE OUR PARKING IS GOING TO BE.

AND THEN THIS IS A POTENTIAL MOVING FORWARD.

AND I DO WANNA ADD THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE EVERY VEHICLE THEY SUBMIT.

OKAY.

AND SO THEY COULD NOT, SO IF IT'S A NEXT GENERATION YES.

AND SO THEY COULD NOT COME IN AND JUST SWAP OUT 300 OF THEIR A THOUSAND PERMITS AND PLACE THE OTHER VEHICLE WITHOUT US APPROVING IT.

SO WE WOULD COME BACK WITH A REPORT OR SOME TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION BEFORE WE INTRODUCE THAT VEHICLE.

I ALSO WANTED TO ADD, COUNCILMAN THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT HAVE RIDDEN SCOOTERS ON THE COMMITTEE.

MM-HMM.

, THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT HAVE, UM, WHO ARE AVID SCOOTER RIDERS, OR WHO'VE TRIED IT ONCE AND DIDN'T LIKE IT LIKE MYSELF.

BUT, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL, UM, INDIVIDUALS WHO PROVIDED DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, AND IT WAS A VERY, VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION.

OKAY.

AND CHERISE, UM, SHE GOT ON EVERY SCOOTER DURING THE INTERVIEWS AND CRITIQUED EACH, UM, VEHICLE FOR THE COMMITTEE.

IT WAS A VERY HELPFUL EXERCISE.

SURE.

I MEAN, YOU MAY HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST WITH RIDING ONE, JUST NOT DURING THE EVALUATION.

DID YOU JUMP ON ONE? YES.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

UM, AND THEN ONE OTHER THING, UH, JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH THE UNIFORMITY AND CONSISTENCY, UM, THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS CONSISTENCY WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING OR WHEN IT COMES TO NO.

WILL WE HAVE THAT CONSISTENCY AND UNIFORMITY AMONG, AMONGST ALL OF THE, THE COMPANIES WHEN IT COMES TO INCENTIVIZING PARKING CORRECTLY, ET CETERA.

SO WHEN WE'RE NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS, ALL OF THE, ON THESE REALLY BIG ISSUES THAT ARE STILL OUTSTANDING FOR ME, PARTICULARLY, AND I THINK FOR US, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARKING AND WHEN IT COMES TO GEOFENCING, THESE ARE TWO REALLY BIG ISSUES STILL THAT ARE OUTSTANDING THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO WILL THEY BE THE SAME THEN FOR ALL OF THE COMPANIES, WHATEVER WE FINALIZE IN THE CONTRACTS? UH, THE, THE, THE MINIMUMS WILL ALL BE THE SAME, SO WE'LL BE CONSISTENT IN THE CONTRACT.

UM, THEY MAY, THEY MAY, AS AN INDIVIDUAL COMPANY, MAYBE GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, UM, OUR MINIMUMS, FOR EXAMPLE.

UM, WE MAY, WE MAY HAVE PROHIBITED AREAS WHERE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO RIDE, UM, BUT THEY MAY WORK WITH A, A, A PRIVATE CAMPUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT SAYS, HEY, WE PREFER YOU NOT BE HERE.

AND THEY COULD GEO-FENCE THAT AREA AS WELL.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THEY WILL ALL HAVE TO MEET OUR MINIMUM STANDARDS.

UM, AND THEY'LL ALL, THEY'LL ALL BE THE SAME ACROSS ALL THREE CONTRACTS.

SURE.

I JUST WANNA ADD THAT ALL THE CONTRACTS, WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING ONE CONTRACT THAT'S GONNA BE UNIFORM ACROSS.

OKAY.

UM, THERE MAY BE SOME SLIGHT DIFFERENCES, BUT

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THE MAIN TERMS, THEY WILL BE UNIFORM.

SO IF THERE ARE SLIGHT DIFFERENCES, I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THEM AS WELL.

YES.

AND WE'LL HIGHLIGHT THOSE.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT.

BUT IT'LL BE UNIFORM THAT'S NECESSARY TO MONITOR 'EM AS WELL.

RIGHT.

UM, SO I THINK STILL THE OUT OUTSTANDING THINGS ARE THE PARKING FRAMEWORK PLAN.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING CORRALS TOGETHER, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE WHAT ARE THESE CORRALS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? HOW MUCH SPACE ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE UP IF THEY'RE ON OUR SIDEWALKS? MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND THEN, UH, I DO LIKE THE, THE IDEA OF ON STREET PARKING OR IN A, IN A PARKING, UH, SPACE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO ALSO GET THE MENTALITY FOR THE, FOR THE RIDERS THAT THEY SHOULD BE ON THE STREET, NOT ON THE SIDEWALK.

SO IF WE CAN MAKE THAT VISUAL HAPPEN MORE, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD.

BUT, UM, I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT'S, THAT'S WORKING HERE, AND TO SEE THAT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO EQUITY AS WELL, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, WE HAVE PEOPLE USING THEM FROM ONE WAY TO ANOTHER.

AND I THINK THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.

UM, AND GEOFENCING IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME AND I THINK FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UM, TOO.

SO THOSE ARE SOME BIG, THOSE ARE SOME OUTSTANDING ISSUES THAT WE STILL NEED TO WORK ON.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHERE WE LAND ON THAT.

BUT GOOD JOB, UH, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE PARTICIPATION THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN, UH, ONE, A PART OF IN NUMBER TWO THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT.

AND I THINK WE'RE SEEING POSITIVE, UH, STEPS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRO AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

OH, I'M SORRY.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH, DO YOU MIND IF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PLY JUMPS IN BRIEFLY THEN? SURE.

HE'S GOTTA DEPART.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND, AND, UM, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN.

I, I, I HAVE TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THIS.

UM, IT, THE FIRST THING I'LL TELL YOU IS FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVEN'T RIDDEN, UH, THE SCOOTERS, UH, THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE A LOT OF FUN.

AND, AND I'VE, I'VE RIDDEN THEM QUITE A BIT, AND I STILL DO.

AND, UM, DESPITE ALL THE COMMENTS I'VE MADE ABOUT SCOOTERS IN THE PAST, UH, I THINK THEY'RE A VERY CONVENIENT, EFFICIENT WAY OF GETTING AROUND.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE IS NO, THERE'S NOTHING MORE PAINFUL ON THIS PLANET THAN HAVING ONE OF THOSE SCOOTERS HITCH YOU IN THE ANKLE.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S EXPERIENCED THAT YET, BUT IT WILL DROP YOU TO THE GROUND.

IT REALLY IS VERY PAINFUL.

UM, AND THE INTERNET IS FULL OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, TAKING PICTURES OF THEIR ANKLE INJURIES.

BUT, UM, I, I, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, UH, JACK AND LORI, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE, JOHN AND LORI, AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE, HAVE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THIS.

AND, UH, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO 0.2 THINGS OUT.

ONE, THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE, UM, NOT, IT'S NOT BECAUSE, HEY, SOME COUNCIL MEMBER GOT A BRIGHT IDEA TO GO REGULATE AN INDUSTRY, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO PASS A C C R AND JUST DO SOMETHING FOR THE SAKE OF DOING SOMETHING, BUT IT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS A GROUNDSWELL OF DEMANDS FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS, UM, DEMANDING THAT WE DO SOMETHING.

I THINK EVERY ONE OF US, UM, HAS RECEIVED THOSE PHONE CALLS AND BEEN TO THOSE TOWN HALLS WHERE PEOPLE JUST, YOU KNOW, EXPRESSED, UM, VISCERAL DISLIKE OF THESE SCOOTERS.

AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A FEW FOLKS OUT THERE WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO APPRECIATE THEM AND USE THEM.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU FOR ME, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY, UM, BY MANY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE, IS, UH, I'VE RECEIVED NOTHING BUT NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT SCOOTERS AND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO AWAY WITH 'EM.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO OUR CONSTITUENTS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY'VE ALL COME TO APPRECIATE THIS EFFORT THAT YOU'VE BEEN MAKING, UM, AND HELPING US GET TO THIS POINT.

THEY LIKE THIS IDEA OF PARING DOWN THE NUMBERS AND BRINGING THEM TO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE, MORE REASONABLE.

THE SECOND THING, UM, ALONG THOSE LINES, WHY WE'RE DOING IT, UM, IS ALSO BECAUSE I GOT TO MEET, FOR EXAMPLE, MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO, UH, WITH A TEAM FROM LYFT, UM, SUPER HELPFUL IN HELPING ME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT MARKET WORKS AND HOW REALLY THIS IS JUST ECONOMICS FOR THEM.

RIGHT? AND, AND I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS, IS THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO SELF ADJUST BECAUSE THERE IS A DILUTION IN THE MARKET.

AND BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A THING AS TOO MANY SCOOTERS ON THE STREET, EVEN FOR THEM, RIGHT? I MEAN, SIMPLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

AND SO, UM, FOR ALL THOSE ECONOMIC STUDENTS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU ARE GETTING TO SEE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ECONOMICS AT WORK, UH, WITH THESE SCOOTERS.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I KEEP HEARING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND IT BEING CELEBRATED BECAUSE THIS IS JUST ONE MORE DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY, THEN IT MUST BE GOOD.

AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL REMIND FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS, THERE'S NOTHING MORE DISRUPTIVE THAN GRACKLES AT AN H E P PARKING LOT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GOOD.

UM, AND, UH, THE, UH, AND I'VE YET TO MEET ANYBODY WHO SAYS, I LOVE IT WHEN GRACKLES ARE AT H E B, RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THAT GRACKLES ARE IMPORTANT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

UM, I, I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS A ROLE FOR CITY'S COUNCIL AND FOR GOVERNMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGY SERVES THE COMMUNITY AND BENEFITS EVERYBODY.

UM, AND THAT IT DOESN'T GET TOO FAR OUT FROM UNDER US.

UM, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM,

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YOU KNOW, IT IS OUR JOB TO CARE FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, THE WELLBEING OF PEOPLE ON OUR STREETS.

AND THERE'S NOTHING, UM, MORE IMPORTANT TO US AS EVIDENCED BY, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECT SA PLAN AND, UH, THE MAYOR'S, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY IMPASSIONED PLEASED TO THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION AND, I'M SORRY, MULTIMODAL TRANSIT VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT MODALITIES IS WALKING RIGHT AND GETTING DOWN THE STREET ON YOUR OWN SIDEWALKS.

AND IF WE'VE CREATED A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO USE THEIR OWN SIDEWALKS IN A, IN A MANNER THAT'S SAFE, WELL THEN IT'S US WHO OWNS THE OBLIGATION TO FIX THAT.

SO THAT'S A VERY, VERY LONG-WINDED WAY OF SAYING, UH, WE ARE DOING THIS AND WE SHOW IT UP TO THIS PARTY BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO, UM, MAKE SURE TO SCRUTINIZE THIS AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS BEING SERVED, OR AT THE VERY LEAST, THE FEWEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE BEING HURT.

SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, AND THANK YOU MAYOR FOR LETTING ME JUMP IN HERE, AND THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN FOR LETTING ME JUMP AHEAD OF YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER PALAZ, COUNCIL MEMBER ROJA GARCIA.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU JOHN FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

I HAVE A FIRST, I HAVE A RANDOM QUESTION.

WAS THERE A REASON OR DO WE KNOW THE REASON FOR THE DECREASE IN RIDES PER MONTH? UM, I THINK, AGAIN, IT'S SOME OF IT'S THEORIES.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE A, A, A LOT OF TIMEFRAME TO, TO GET THE DATA FROM.

UM, I THINK PART OF IT HAS BEEN, UM, INITIALLY THERE WAS THIS EXCITEMENT.

IT'S KINDA LIKE WHEN A NEW RESTAURANT OPENS, EVERYONE WANTS TO GO THERE AND EAT.

SO I THINK WE WERE SEEING SOME OF THAT.

SO SOME OF THE EARLY DATA SHOWED US THAT, UM, EARLY ON WE HAD A LOT OF FIRST TIME RIDES, SO PEOPLE WOULD TRY IT ONCE.

MAYBE IT WAS LORI, YOU KNOW, SHE DIDN'T DO IT AGAIN.

UM, THEY ALL WANTED, PEOPLE WERE TRYING IT OUT AND THEN EITHER FOR WHATEVER REASON, DECIDED NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.

UM, AND SO WE STARTED SEEING THAT NUMBER DROP.

UM, EACH MONTH IT WAS LESS AND LESS WHAT, WHAT THEY CALLED NEW RIDES OR NEW RIDERS.

UM, SO I THINK IT IS, PART OF IT WAS THAT IT WAS, IT WAS NEW.

PEOPLE WEREN'T REALLY SURE, WAS IT, WAS IT RIGHT FOR THEM OR NOT? WAS IT REALLY USEFUL OR NOT? UM, AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE IS MORE OF A, THE MORE FREQUENT USER IS USING THEM NOW, AND WE'RE HAVING LESS, UM, YOU KNOW, LESS NEW RIDES.

AGAIN, IT'S A SHORT TIMEFRAME AS WELL.

SO WE SAW PART OF IT WAS SEASONAL.

UM, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A, WHAT TYPICALLY IS A BUSY TIME FOR DOWNTOWN IS A BUSY TIME FOR SCOOTER RIDING AS WELL.

UM, SO IT KIND OF REFLECTS THAT, THAT TOO.

IS THAT REFLECTIVE IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL? UH, I THINK SO.

UM, I WAS RECENTLY IN BALTIMORE, UM, WHO HAS SCOOTERS AS WELL.

AND, AND I SAW A VERY SIMILAR, UM, KIND OF ATMOSPHERE AS FAR AS SCOOTER RIDING, UM, GOING ON THERE, THAT IT WAS REALLY A NATIONWIDE KIND OF TREND.

UM, A LOT OF, UM, COMPANIES DEPLOYED ALL AROUND THAT SAME TIME, THAT SAME SUMMER, UM, IN 2018.

UM, AND SO I THINK THAT IT'S BEEN A, A FAIRLY CONSISTENT EXPERIENCE THROUGHOUT THE NATION.

OKAY.

GOOD.

I'M, I WAS JUST CONCERNED.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT A FAD OF SOME SORT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE POSSIBLY MAKING THESE CORRALS, UM, AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE A NEED FOR THEM ANYMORE.

THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

MM-HMM.

.

SURE.

UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST TO COUNCILWOMAN VIA GRAND'S POINT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE THINKING OF WHERE TO PLACE THESE, UH, THAT IT'S SOMEWHERE THAT'S ES AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO, AND SO I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE THAT ALL FIGURED OUT ALREADY.

UM, ALSO ON SLIDE THREE, YOU HAVE VIOLATIONS.

UH, THE SECOND LARGEST AMOUNT OF VIOLATIONS WAS 1,618.

UH, AND IT SAYS OTHER.

CAN YOU MAYBE GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT OTHER IS? UM, I ACTUALLY HAD THE SAME QUESTION.

SO I STARTED, UH, TO START TO DIG THROUGH IT.

I'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT.

I, UM, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THIS GENERAL CATEGORY I THINK THAT PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY SURE WHAT TO SELECT.

SO THEY'RE JUST PUTTING OTHER, OR IT MIGHT BE THAT THEY ACTUALLY, THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, SOME OF THEIR, UM, SOME OF YOUR, UM, SELECTIONS IN THE APP ARE OPTIONAL, SO YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO PUT ANYTHING IN THERE.

SO SOME OF THAT MAY FALL IN THIS CATEGORY TWO.

AND I THINK TO CALCIUM INTRAVENOUS POINT, THAT'S WHY I NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH PAULA AND, AND START REFINING THIS.

AND SO WE, SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE 1600 OTHERS AND DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS.

I AGREE.

BECAUSE 3,651 CAME THROUGH THAT 3 1 1 APP.

SO THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT.

UM, RIGHT.

ON THAT, UH, OR, OR STICKING TO THAT 3 1 1 APP.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, WILL THESE COMPANIES, THE THREE COMPANIES NOW SOMEHOW HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO OUR 3 1 1 APP INFORMATION THAT THEY COULD DOWNLOAD? OR DO THEY ALREADY, THAT THEY DOWNLOAD INSTANTANEOUSLY AND GO AND, AND SOLVE A PROBLEM OR PICK UP A SCOOTER? HOW DOES IT WORK? SURE.

UM, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, 3 1, 1 APP DOESN'T, FOR INSTANCE, ROUTE PROBLEMS WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, GRAFFITI ON C P S BOXES OR ON SAWS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OR ANOTHER.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING, LIKE, HOW DO THEY HAVE ACCESS, IF SO, AND NOT LIKE C P S ENERGY FOR OTHER ITEMS?

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IT'S, UH, SO 3 1 1 CREATED A SPECIFIC CATEGORY FOR SCOOTERS.

UM, SO IT'S KIND OF SPECIFIC TO THAT CATEGORY.

SO IT ESSENTIALLY PUSHES THE INFORMATION TO THE COMPANY.

SO IF IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A PARTICULAR COMPANY SCOOTER AND, AND IT'S, THERE'S A VIOLATION ENTERED OR BY, BY SOMEONE, THEY'RE NOTIF.

THEY ARE, THEY'RE PUSHED THAT NOTIFICATION THAT THERE'S A VIOLATION.

OKAY.

GREAT.

SO I'M GONNA BE LOOKING INTO THAT THEN FOR C P SS.

THANK YOU.

'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, SO I WAS TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PASSED DOWN, SO THAT'S GREAT.

ELIMINATING THE MIDDLEMAN I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

ALSO.

UM, A QUESTION ON SLIDE 16, WE HAVE $55,000 BUDGETED FOR WRITER EDUCATION INITIATIVES.

CAN YOU GIVE ME MAYBE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT? UM, AND, AND MAYBE YOU PRESENTED AT A PREVIOUS, I WASN'T ON COUNCIL.

YEAH.

BUT WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES AND HOW DID WE GET TO THAT $55,000 MAGIC NUMBER? BECAUSE IF WE LOOK AT IT BY THE TERMS OF, OF RIDERSHIP, THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 55, 5 CENTS PER PERSON THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN.

AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SURE.

SO THE WRITER EDUCATION EXAMPLES, UM, WE'VE, UM, WE DID SOME SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, UM, KIND OF OUTREACH.

UM, WE DID SOME, UH, WORKING WITH OUR, UH, G S A DEPARTMENT, THEY DID SOME, UM, UM, KIND OF COMMERCIALS, UM, SHOWING RIDER TIPS, HOW TO RIDE, HOW TO PARK.

UM, A LOT OF IT WAS SOCIAL MEDIA KIND OF FOCUSED.

UM, WE FIGURED THAT THAT'S WHERE THE TARGET AUDIENCE, UM, IS.

UH, WE DID SOME, UH, FLYERS THAT WE WOULD HAND OUT OR, AND PUT IN DIFFERENT STRATEGIC STRATEGIC LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN.

UM, WE HAD SOME SIGNAGE, UH, ON, ON, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SOME ON THE SIDEWALKS.

THERE'S SOME KIND OF ROUND INFORMATIONAL, UM, UH, UM, I DUNNO IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKE, UH, NOT STICKERS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE VINYL, UM, ADHESIVE THAT GOES ON THE SIDEWALK AND IT MAY TELL YOU, PLEASE DON'T RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK.

UM, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, AS FAR AS THE AMOUNTS ARE CONCERNED, THAT'S BASICALLY, UM, THERE'S FUNDING FOR THE, FOR STAFF MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO THAT'S FOR THE FOUR, UM, INDIVIDUALS IN OUR DEPARTMENT OVER TIME, UH, FOR SS A P D ENFORCEMENT, AND THEN 75,000, UM, FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN THE LEFTOVER IS THE 55,000 FOR EDUCATION, WHICH WAS MY, SO MOST OF THAT GOES TO, TO STAFF AND ADMINISTERING THE, THE PROGRAM.

YES.

I SAW WE HAVE LIKE A SENIOR MANAGEMENT ASSISTANT AND THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.

MY NEXT QUESTION WAS ACTUALLY THE $75,000 IN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, WHAT, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE? AND THAT'S ONLY IN YEAR ONE.

DO YOU ALSO HAVE YEAR TWO THREE BUDGETED YET? THAT'S, THAT'S ALL YEAR ONE.

SO THAT'S AN UPFRONT, UH, THAT'S $25,000 PER COMPANY.

THAT'S AN UPFRONT, UM, BASICALLY AS PART OF THE PERMIT FEE, UM, COST THAT WAS TO ESTABLISH, UH, OR TO GET SOME UPFRONT DOLLARS, UM, SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, LIKE SCOOTER RACKS.

SO WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH TO SEE, UM, CAN WE HAVE SOME RACKS THAT ARE MANUFACTURED SPECIFICALLY FOR SCOOTERS, SO MUCH LIKE A BIKE RACK, IT'D BE A, A SCOOTER RACK, UM, THE PARKING CORRALS, UM, IN THE PARKING SPOTS, UM, THE STENCILS, UH, ON THE SIDEWALK, UM, SIGNAGE, UH, TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.

SO THAT'LL BE THAT ACTUAL KIND OF HARD INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR PARKING PRIMARILY.

AND SO THE COMPANIES ARE EACH DOING $25,000 ARE, ARE PLEDGING OR ARE GIVING US $25,000 THAT, THAT WAS PART OF OUR PROPOSAL, UM, THAT THAT WOULD BE A FEE THAT WE WOULD CHARGE UPFRONT.

SO IT'D BE $75,000 OR 25,000 EACH, UM, TO GO SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

AND THEN, UM, YOU MENTIONED LIKE SCOOTER RACKS.

SO DO THESE THINGS EXIST ALREADY? DO WE HAVE LIKE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE OR COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE OR, UH, WE DO, WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE SEEN.

UM, A LOT OF THEM ARE MANUFACTURED OR USED BY THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES.

UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE RELATIVELY SIMPLE.

OKAY.

UM, KIND OF A METAL FABRICATED, UM, RACK THAT HAS SLOTS FOR EACH SCOOTER TO PARK IN.

AND THE REASON THAT I WAS ASKING IS I'M ASSUMING WE'RE, WHEN WE DO AN R F P FOR THAT, WE'LL REACH OUT FOR TWO LOCAL COMPANIES THAT ALSO MIGHT HAVE AN INTEREST IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, OR, UH, AS PART OF THE RFPS PROCESS, WE DID NOT.

UM, BUT WE WANTED TO SELECT THE THREE VENDORS AND THEN WORK WITH THOSE THREE VENDORS TO POTENTIALLY IDENTIFY, ARE THERE ALREADY, UM, IS THERE ALREADY SOMEBODY OUT THERE MANUFACTURING THESE THAT WE PERHAPS COULD PURCHASE FROM? UM, OR DO WE NEED TO IN, IN EFFECT DESIGN IT OURSELVES? OKAY.

SO, AND SO THAT ONE'S A A A BIG QUESTION FOR ME TOO, AND AGAIN, BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T, DON'T UNDERSTAND, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE, RIGHT? SURE.

MM-HMM.

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UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, I WAS TOLD THAT, UH, SOME OF THE COMMUNITY EVENTS WE'RE GIVING AWAY HELMETS AND DO WE KNOW HOW MANY HELMETS OR IS THERE A REQUIREMENT? AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL BROUGHT THIS UP A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT IS THERE A NUMBER, A GOLDEN NUMBER THAT WE'VE ASKED MAYBE

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COMPANIES TO CONTRIBUTE, UM, TOWARD, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T ESTABLISH A SPECIFIC NUMBER, UM, OF ACTUAL HELMETS TO GIVE AWAY, UM, PER THE CONTRACT.

I THINK WE WILL HAVE SOME MINIMUM, UM, UM, RIDER EDUCATION EVENTS, UH, THAT WOULD REQUIRE HELMET GIVEAWAYS.

BUT AS I THINK WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE A GOAL, UM, FOR EACH EVENT, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO EVERYBODY HAVE A HELMET, RIGHT? BUT, UM, BUT MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH AVAILABLE, UM, FOR THOSE WHO, WHO REQUEST IT.

GOT IT.

KIND OF LIKE LIFEBOAT NEAR OR SO, SO, UM, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? UH, ON BOATS? THEY ALWAYS HAVE LIFESAVERS LIFE, LIFE LIFE JACKETS.

SURE.

SO ANYWAY, SO I WAS JUST WONDERING MM-HMM.

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UM, AND THEN ALSO, UH, I KNOW THAT RAZOR AND LYFT, UM, HAVE OR WILL SOON HAVE SEATED SCOOTERS.

AND SO I'M WONDERING, I KNOW THAT WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE, WE HAD, UH, MISS ALI, MONA MALONE FROM THE DISABILITY ACCESS COMMITTEE.

THAT WAS A PART OF IT.

RIGHT.

AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING, UM, WHAT THEY FELT SPECIFICALLY, UM, MAYBE THROUGH HER COMMITTEE ABOUT SEATED SCOOTERS AND THE USE OF SEATED SCOOTERS.

UM, I, I THINK, UH, THERE JUST GENERALLY THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT A SEATED SCOOTER WAS A GOOD, UM, OPTION, UM, AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION TO THE, SAY THE STANDUP SCOOTER, THAT, THAT PERHAPS MIGHT BE, UM, MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE.

MM-HMM.

, SOME PEOPLE MAY, UM, EITHER NOT BE COMFORTABLE ON THE STANDUP SCOOTER, UM, MAYBE ONLY BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST USED TO RIDING A BIKE, AND SO THEY'RE MORE FAMILIAR WITH IT, SO THEY FEEL SAFER AND THEY'D BE MORE LIKELY TO USE IT, OR IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE PHYSICALLY EASIER FOR THEM TO USE BECAUSE YOUR, YOUR LOWER CENTER OF GRAVITY, IT'S EASIER TO PUT BOTH FEET ON THE GROUND.

UM, AND THEN, UH, UH, REALLY FOR, UM, ATHLETE, HER CONCERN WAS THE VEHICLES THAT TIP OVER, UM, FOR HER, THE VEHICLES THAT FALL OVER AND, AND, AND, UM, TEND TO BE MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN, THAN VEHICLES THAT ARE, THAT ARE PARKED STANDING UP.

UM, AND SO WE, WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE ACTUAL VEHICLE ITSELF AS IN TERMS OF THE KICKSTAND.

UM, AND IT IN RAZORS, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN BEING DEPLOYED OR, OR CURRENTLY DEPLOYED IN SAN ANTONIO, UM, TENDS TO BE A VEHICLE THAT FALLS OVER LESS BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN OF THE KICKSTAND.

UM, AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF A, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH EACH, UM, COMPANY WAS, UM, THIS TIPPING OVER FACTOR.

OKAY.

AND I'D LOVE TO, UM, MAYBE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT WITH YOU AND, AND DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE THE SEATED SCOOTERS.

I KNOW THAT FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT WOULD PROBABLY BENEFIT MORE FROM SEATED SCOOTERS, FOR INSTANCE, AND FROM THE, THE REGULAR SCOOTERS THAT WE SEE.

OKAY.

THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY.

OKAY.

SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SURE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, AND I WANNA THANK ALL MY FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE SO FAR.

I THINK THEY'VE ASKED A LOT OF, UH, VERY GOOD QUESTIONS THAT I HAD IN MIND.

UH, SO I'M GONNA MAYBE, UH, ADD A FEW COMMENTS TO GO ALONG WITH SOME THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY OTHERS.

UH, EDUCATION WAS NUMBER ONE ON MY LIST, AND I KNOW WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

UH, LET ME ASK YOU, UH, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT SOME OF THE EDUCATION, FLYERS, ADS, VIDEOS, THINGS ON THE GROUND MM-HMM.

, UM, WHAT PERCENT OF THE RIDERS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY FROM THE DATA ARE TOURISTS.

UM, I, I COUNCILMAN I DO HAVE A, BASED ON THE SURVEY THAT WE GAVE, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE SURVEY INFORMATION WITH ME TODAY, BUT I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.

WE DID ASK THE QUESTION, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS WHAT ZIP CODE THEY WERE FROM.

SO AS PART OF THE SURVEY, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE WERE FROM SAN ANTONIO OR NOT, UM, FROM ACTUAL RIDER, UM, DATA.

THAT DATA IS NOT AVAILABLE TO US.

UM, A LOT OF IT, UM, UM, IS THE CONCERN IS WE'RE GETTING TOO MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT INDIVIDUALS.

UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I THINK CONTRACTUALLY WITH THESE THREE COMPANIES WE CAN EXPLORE TO SEE, CAN THEY GIVE US SOME DEMOGRAPHICS OF THEIR RIDER? SO WE, WE KNOW GENERALLY WHAT PERCENT ARE LOCALS VERSUS WHAT PERCENT ARE VISITORS.

WELL, AND THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT IS HOW DO WE EDUCATE TOURISTS, RIGHT.

ABOUT WHAT OUR SURE.

WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE, WHAT THE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS ARE.

YEAH.

AND SO THAT BRINGS ME TO THE POINT THAT I'VE MADE TO YOU AND I'VE MADE TO OTHERS.

YEAH.

UH, THIS CARD IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF A CARD THAT I STRONGLY URGE ALL OF THE, UH, COMPANIES THAT, THAT ENTER IN A CONTRACT WITH US TO PUT EITHER ABOVE OR BETWEEN THE HANDLEBARS OF THEIR VEHICLES IN WHICH THE CITY WILL REQUIRE THEM TO PUT IN SOME OF THE MAJOR POINTS THAT AN OPERATOR NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND.

RIGHT.

UH, NO DRIVING ON SIDEWALKS OBEY ALL NORMAL TRAFFIC LAWS.

RIDERS MUST BE 16 YEARS OR OLDER, ONLY ONE RIDER PER VEHICLE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

UH, RATHER THAN PASTE SOMETHING ON THE ARM OF THE SCOOTER OR AT THE BASE OF THE SCOOTER

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OR JUST HAVE IT IN THE APP.

'CAUSE PEOPLE DON'T READ THE APPS.

AND I THINK HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE UNOBTRUSIVE, BUT IT WOULD BE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE OPERATOR.

SO THERE'S NO DOUBT THEN THAT THEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, AT LEAST THE MOST MINIMUM SAFETY AND TRAFFIC REQUIREMENTS ARE.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK FROM THE LAST B SESSION.

YOU MENTIONED THOSE ITEMS THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT IN THE R F P AND IT'LL BE REQUIRED TO BE ON THE VEHICLE, BUT SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE ALREADY STARTED PUTTING THEM AS A SEPARATE CARD THAT'S KIND OF HANGING.

YEAH.

I HADN'T SEEN 'EM YET, BUT I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

I THINK THAT'LL, UH, HELP EDUCATE THE TOURISTS AND PEOPLE WHO JUST WON'T LOOK AT ALL OF THE, UH, REGULATIONS IN THE APP.

SO I APPRECIATE HEARING THAT.

UM, WILL WE, I, I KNOW WE'RE SAYING THAT THE, UH, DIFFERENT VENDORS HAVE SAYING THEY DON'T THINK THEY'LL PUT A THOUSAND BIKES, OR THEY MAY PUT A THOUSAND BIKES.

WILL WE KEEP THE SAME TOTAL AUTHORIZATION SO THAT THEY MAY GROW INTO THAT NUMBER OF 5,000 OVER TIME? YES.

BUT WE WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL IF WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THOSE PERMITS.

OKAY.

AND, AND THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN IT CONDENSED.

NOW, IF WE GET THREE OPERATORS AND THEY'RE DOING WELL, THEY MAY FIND THEY WANNA EXPAND.

SO I'M, AND I, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE OPEN FOR GROWTH AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW.

AND AS, AS WE REGULATE THIS NOW TO WHERE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE THEM AND WHERE THEY CAN BE EFFECTIVE, UH, THERE MAY BE A NEED TO SEE IT GROW.

UM, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, WHAT COMPANIES HAVE PROCURED AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER AUTHORITIES TO OPERATE WITHIN THEIR DISTRICTS THAT MAY NOT ENTER, ENTER INTO OUR AGREEMENT? IN OTHER WORDS, I HEARD, I THINK IT WAS, UM, BLUE DUCK.

MM-HMM.

ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ONE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR ONE OF THE UNIVERSITIES TO OPERATE THERE.

SO HOW MUCH OF THAT IS GOING ON BESIDES THESE THREE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE AUTHORIZING? SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE OPERATING ON CITY RIGHT OF WAY, YOU WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO OPERATE UNLESS YOU'RE ONE OF THESE THREE VENDORS.

NOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH VIA, THEY HAVE SPECIFICALLY HELD OFF ON GOING THROUGH THEIR PROCESS UNTIL WE WENT THROUGH OUR SELECTION PROCESS.

SO MOST LIKELY THEY'LL WORK WITH ONE OF THE THREE VENDORS THAT WE'VE SELECTED.

NOW, IF IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, LIKE U T S A OR ANOTHER UNIVERSITY, THEY CAN, UM, CONTRACT WITH A SEPARATE VENDOR THAT WE HAVEN'T SELECTED BECAUSE THEY OWN THAT RIGHT OF WAY.

RIGHT.

HOW CAN WE MANAGE THEIR OVERFLOW ONTO CITY PROPERTY? COLLEGE STUDENT ISN'T GONNA LOOK AT, AM I IN THE CITY OR AM I ON THE CAMPUS IF THEY WANT TO GO DOWN THE STREET TO A BAR OR SOMETHING.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MONITOR AND HOPEFULLY THROUGH, YOU KNOW, CITIZEN COMMENTS AND GEOFENCING, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE IT, TAKE CARE OF THAT.

NOW, GEOFENCING I THINK, IS IMPORTANT.

CAN WE ASK OUR EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS, IF THEY ENTER AN AGREEMENT TO REQUIRE GEOFENCING ON THEIR, ON THEIR SIDE? WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT REQUEST.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK HELMETS ARE AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT.

UH, AND I, I THINK IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO TAKE UP, UH, A RECOMMENDATION OF HAVING A TARGET IF WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 5,000 PERMITS.

WELL, LET'S SAY WE GET 3000 ACTIVE, YOU KNOW, TO AT LEAST GET MAYBE 25 TO 50% AVAILABLE.

UH, YOU KNOW, IT CERTAINLY IS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND THE SCOOTER COMPANIES, BUT IT'S ALSO A BENEFIT TO THE HOTELS, THE RESTAURANTS, THE RETAILERS.

ANY, ANY CUSTOMER THAT FALLS AND GETS HURT ISN'T GONNA BE DOING BUSINESS WITH THEM.

IF YOU'RE IN A HOTEL AND ONE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS GET HURT AND GO HOME, YOU LOSE MONEY.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO ASK THOSE, UH, RETAILERS, RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS TO PARTNER WITH US AND MAYBE SOME OF THE MORE, UM, CIVIC MINDED BUSINESSES, H E B S A A, HEY, THE UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM, UH, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, UH, PUT SOME MONEY INTO PROVIDING HELMETS THAT CAN BE AVAILABLE.

CERTAINLY AT ALMOST ALL THOSE LOCATIONS.

HOTELS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE 'EM OUT RESTAURANTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MALLS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, AND SO I'D REALLY RECOMMEND THAT, THAT WE WORK WITH THE COMPANY, BUT THE COMPANIES NEED TO, TO CONTRIBUTE TOO.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE PLANNING ON HAVING SOME GIVEAWAYS, BUT LET'S SET A TARGET.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY IF THERE'S 3000, LET'S HAVE A THOUSAND HELMETS AVAILABLE AND, UH, STRONGLY RECOMMEND PEOPLE WEAR HELMETS AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH A HELMET PLAN, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL REQUESTED BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO COUNCIL.

OKAY.

UH, WHAT'S GONNA BE THE SPEED LIMIT ON THESE VEHICLES AND HOW WILL THAT BE ENFORCED? UH, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 15 MILES PER HOUR, AND IT WILL BE, UM, ENFORCED THROUGH THE ACTUAL VEHICLE ITSELF.

SO IT'S GOVERNED, UM, TO NOT ALLOW IT TO GO, UM, FASTER THAN 15 MILES PER HOUR.

OKAY.

SURE.

ALRIGHT, WELL, I HOPE SO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

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GREAT, THANK YOU JOHN.

UM, GOT A FEW QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

UM, SLIDE 17, THE NEXT SLIDE THERE.

IT SAYS, UM, DEVELOP AN EFFECTIVE FINE STRUCTURE.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

THIS IS ABOUT EDUCATION INITIATIVES AND COMMUNITY EVENTS.

IS THAT JUST TO TALK TO 'EM ABOUT WHAT THIS SCOOTER IS? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EDUCATION IS ABOUT.

WHAT, WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT? UM, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMPANIES, UM, ARE KIND OF CONTINUING EDUCATION.

THEY'RE CONTINUALLY COMMUNICATING TO THE RIDER AND EDUCATING THEM, UM, ON GOOD BEHAVIOR.

WHAT ARE THE RULES AND, AND WHAT ARE GOOD PRACTICES.

UM, IN, IN, IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

IT COULD BE AN ACTUAL COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE INVITED TO ATTEND AND THEY GIVE AWAY HELMETS.

UM, IT COULD ALSO BE, UM, THROUGH THE APP ITSELF.

SO RIGHT NOW, WHENEVER YOU, UM, WHEN YOU OPEN UP THE APP FOR THE FIRST TIME, BEFORE YOU RENT YOUR FIRST, UM, VEHICLE, IT REQUIRES YOU TO, TO GO THROUGH SOME STEPS TO, TO, UM, ABOUT WHAT ARE THE RULES, UM, HOW TO RIDE.

AND YOU HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT.

OKAY.

UM, WHAT WE WANNA DO IS MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT, THAT THEY DON'T JUST DO IT ONE TIME AND THEN THEY, THEY NEVER SEE IT AGAIN AND THEY TEND TO FORGET MAYBE THOSE RULES.

UM, IT'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, MAYBE EDUCATE THEM ON A, ON CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, MAYBE IT'S FIESTA AND THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT TYPICALLY YOU COULD, UM, THAT YOU WOULD GO INTO, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO INTO.

UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY, UM, REMINDING EITHER LOCALS WHAT THE RULES ARE AT EDUCATION, BUT THEN AGAIN, TO COUNCILMAN CURTIS'S POINT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING THE SAN ANTONIO, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING EDUCATED AS WELL.

SO IT'S, BUT I, I WOULDN'T SEE THEM GOING TO COMMUNITY EVENTS.

NO, BUT IT, BUT IT WOULD BE, IS THAT, IS THERE, UM, EDUCATION OR MATERIAL AVAILABLE, UH, THROUGH THE HOTEL? SO IF YOU GO TO THE CONCIERGE AND YOU ASK, HEY, HOW DO, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THESE SCOOTER THINGS WORK.

THEY HAVE SOME MATERIALS THAT THEY COULD GIVE AND THEY COULD HELP EDUCATE.

I GOT YOU.

OKAY.

BUT YOU'RE NOT ORGANIZING COMMUNITY EVENTS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON? NOT NECESSARILY.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COMPANIES.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT GETS ME.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT STARTS RUNNING INTO MONEY ORGANIZING COMMUNITY EVENTS.

I MEAN, I COULD SEE HAVING LITERATURE, YOU KNOW, UH, LITERATURE IN A HOTEL OR IN A RESTAURANT, THAT KIND OF THING ON HOW TO OPERATE THESE, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE LIKE WHEN WE WANNA, WHEN A NEW HOTEL, NO, SORRY, HOUSING PROJECT OPENS UP IN DOWNTOWN, GOING THERE AND DOING A DEMONSTRATION ON HOW TO USE A SCOOTER AND USE IT SAFELY AND GO THROUGH THE APP.

AND SO TARGETING SPECIFIC POPULATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE SCOOTER SAFETY ROLES.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, THE EQUITY PROGRAMS, HOW, HOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE COST OF USING THESE RIGHT NOW? UH, GENERALLY IT'S A DOLLAR TO UNLOCK.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN IT COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN COMPANIES THAT ARE VARIED, BUT IT'S ABOUT 25 CENTS A MINUTE, UM, AFTER THAT.

OKAY.

SOME ARE A LITTLE BIT, UM, MORE THAN OTHERS.

JUST DEPENDS.

OKAY.

AND WHAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN THIS EQUITY PROGRAM? OR HAVE Y'ALL COME UP WITH ANY KIND OF GUIDELINES YET ABOUT THAT? UH, THE, THE, THE COMPANIES, UH, SUBMITTED SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

SOME OF THEM WERE, UM, LIKE 50% DISCOUNTS.

UM, ONE OF THEM HAD A, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A PROGRAM YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY FOR.

UM, AND ONCE YOU'RE QUALIFIED FOR THAT PROGRAM, UM, AND HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA SET THAT PROGRAM UP? I, IS THIS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO ADMINISTER OR THEY'RE GONNA ADMINISTER? NO, IT WOULD BE THE, THE COMPANIES WOULD, SO A LOT OF THE, THE COMPANIES ALREADY, A LOT OF 'EM ALREADY OFFER THIS.

UM, FOR PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY, THEY GET DISCOUNT RIDES.

SO IT'S REALLY US JUST MAKING SURE WHAT IS THEIR, WHAT IS THEIR EQUITY PROGRAM, UM, AND THEN MONITORING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, APPLYING THAT.

BUT WHAT ARE THEY BASING THE EQUITY PROGRAM ON INCOME? ARE THEY GONNA BE ASKING ABOUT INCOME? THAT KIND OF THING.

TYPICALLY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, WOW, THEY'RE USING IT.

IF YOU QUALIFY FOR OTHER, UM, UM, PROGRAMS, UM, THEN YOU WOULD QUALIFY FOR THIS ONE.

SO IT'S BASED ON INCOME.

OKAY.

UH, I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THEY'RE GONNA DETERMINE THAT.

OKAY.

SURE.

AND WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ASKING AND WHAT KIND OF PROOF AND RIGHT.

ALL THIS AND THAT.

I, THAT JUST AMAZES ME THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRIVATE COMPANY GOING OUT THERE TRYING TO EVALUATE THAT BASED ON NEED AND ESTABLISHING AN EQUITY PROGRAM FROM, FROM A PRIVATE COMPANY.

WE'LL PREPARE THAT FOR THE, FOR THE DECEMBER 12TH ITEM, WE'LL HAVE A DETAIL ON OKAY.

EQUITY PROGRAMS THAT EACH COMPANY WILL PROVIDE, UH, LOCATIONS.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THESE THINGS UP IN DISTRICT 10, OUT BEYOND 1604, WHERE I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF COUCHING THIS FOR DOWNTOWN, BUT WHAT RESTRICTIONS OR WHAT ARE WE SAYING ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA? IS IT ALL A FREE FOR ALL OUT THERE ALSO, OR?

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IT IS.

SO IT WOULD BE, UM, WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THEM TO DEPLOY IN ANY SPECIFIC LOCATION OR BE AVAILABLE IN ANY SPECIFIC LOCATION OR GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

UM, REALLY THE ONLY GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS WE HAVE ARE THOSE PROHIBITED AREAS.

SO THEY'RE PROHIBITED FROM PARKING OR RIDING, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE RIVERWALK.

WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM THAT THEY CAN ONLY DEPLOY DOWNTOWN OR REQUIRING THEM TO DEPLOY, UM, ANYWHERE ELSE.

SO THEY COULD DO IT, UM, ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CITY.

WELL, BUT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYBODY TO COME TO ME SAYING, ARE THERE ANY AREAS IN DISTRICT 10 THAT I DON'T WANT THESE THINGS RUNNING AROUND AT.

MM-HMM.

, THERE MIGHT BE SOME, UH, I CAN THINK OF ONE.

MCALLISTER PARK AND I HAVE OTHER PARKS ALL OVER DISTRICT 10.

WE, WE DO HAVE A A, WE DO HAVE A CITYWIDE RESTRICTION ON USE IN PARKS AND TRAILWAYS.

SO THEY ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN PARKS, UM, AND TRAILWAYS.

BUT ARE THEY GEOFENCED? UH, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS HOW DO I GET INPUT INTO THE SYSTEM ON WHERE I DON'T WANT, ACTUALLY, I THINK SOME OF THEM ARE.

YEAH.

SOME THEY DID, WE DID GIVE THEM THE LAYER FOR ALL THE PARKS AND, AND GREENLAKE.

OKAY.

WELL I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ALSO.

AND UH, AGAIN, I I NEVER GOT AN INPUT INTO THAT ON WHERE WE DON'T WANT 'EM TRAVELING IN DISTRICT 10.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON THAT.

OKAY.

UM, REVENUE, UM, EXPLAIN TO ME THE REVENUE PORTION.

UH, WHICH SLIDE IS THAT? IT'S, UH, IT'S 16, I BELIEVE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WAY BACK WHEN ABOUT, UM, LET'S KEEP THIS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE TO ENCOURAGE GETTING CARS OFF THE ROAD.

BUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, I SEE THESE TOTALS HERE.

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THIS REVENUE GONNA GO TO? IS THAT THAT WHAT IT'S GONNA COST FOR THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYSTS, THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, THE OVERTIME AND THE EDUCATION INITIATIVES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS? YEAH.

SO THAT, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY, UM, OUR COST RECOVERY.

OKAY.

UM, THAT, THAT'S FOR THOSE FOUR EMPLOYEES, S A P D OVER TIME.

UM, AND THEN THE EDUCATION INITIATIVES, UH, AND THEN THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, AND THEN AS, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED THERE, THERE POTENTIALLY WOULD BE SOME EXTRA REVENUE, UM, THAT WE COULD, UM, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON, ON HOW TO, UH, TARGET THOSE FUNDS AS WELL.

I MEAN, WITHIN TWO YEARS WE'RE IT, IT'S, UH, 70 IF I'M AROUND 70 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS INCREASE.

WHAT, WHAT IS THAT BASED ON? UH, THAT WOULD BE BASED ON THE, THE, UH, POTENTIAL INCREASE IN, UM, RIDERSHIP.

OKAY.

BUT, SO WE GET INCREASED RIDERS, SO WE'RE GONNA GET INCREASED REVENUE, BUT IF IT'S NOT GOING FOR THIS, WHY ARE WE SHOWING THE INCREASED REVENUE THERE? 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE A CONSTANT COST THERE.

IF I'M, SO FISCAL YEAR 2020 IS 562,000.

IT GOES UP IN FISCAL YEAR 2021 BECAUSE IT'S A FULL YEAR.

WE'RE FISCAL YEAR 2020 IS ONLY NINE MONTHS OF REVENUE.

OKAY.

AND SO IT GOES TO 12 MONTHS IN 2021 AND THEN 2023.

AND WE JUST PUT A 3% INFLATION IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP.

UM, ANTICIPATING THAT RIDERSHIP WOULD INCREASE FROM 2021 TO 2023, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE SHOWN A DECREASE OVER THE LAST WE'VE SEEN IT ON AVERAGE.

UM, I I BELIEVE WE LOOKED AT IT AS ABOUT 164,000 RIDES A MONTH.

AND THIS IS ASSUMING THAT YES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, DO WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO CHARGE? OR IS THAT RELEASABLE BY COMPANY? WHAT, WHAT THEIR FEE IS THEIR THEIR RATES WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CONTRACT, BUT YES.

OKAY.

UM, THEY DID SUBMIT THOSE AND PART OF THE REVENUE SHARING IN INCLUDES THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO GETTING 15 CENTS OR 25 CENTS.

WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING THAT ON PER PER RIDE.

AND IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH OR TOO MUCH, WE CAN GO BACK IN AND CHANGE THOSE CONTRACT TERMS. WE COULD, RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL COST RECOVERY.

WE KNOW IT'LL COVER OUR COSTS.

ADDITIONAL FUNDING WILL GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

UM, BUT IF COUNSEL WISHES, WE COULD LOOK AT REDUCING THOSE COSTS.

OKAY.

BUT WE CAN DO THAT IN THE, ON THE CONTRACT TERMS GO IN AND CHANGE.

YES.

YOU COULD.

THE COST RECOVERY OR THE REVENUE THAT'S COMING INTO THE CITY YES.

AT ANY TIME.

OKAY.

UM, ANDY, GO AHEAD.

TO CLARIFY, WE CANNOT UNILATERALLY CHANGE 'EM IF WE'RE GONNA INCREASE 'EM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE BY MUTUAL AGREEMENT.

OKAY.

BUT WE COULD DO THAT AT ANY POINT IN TIME DURING THE CONTRACT.

YES.

WE, WE COULD COUNCILMAN AS LONG AS THEY MUTUALLY AGREE.

I MEAN, LIKE ANY OTHER CONTRACT, ONCE YOU SET THE FEE, UNLESS YOU BAKE IN AN ABILITY TO INCREASE IT EITHER BY A FIXED AMOUNT OR A PERCENTAGE OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU

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CAN'T UNILATERALLY JUST INCREASE IT.

IT WOULD BE HAVE TO BE BY MUTUAL AGREEMENT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND I ASKED THIS QUESTION AT THE VERY OUTSET.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING A, A LIMIT OF SIX 6,000.

IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? 3000.

3000? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

HOW MANY ARE EACH ONE GONNA GET UNDER THIS FIRST 1000 EACH.

SO THERE IT'S EQUALLY DIVIDED BETWEEN THE THREE? YES.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HELMETS, UM, ABOUT GIVING AWAY FREE HELMETS ON THIS, WAS THAT BAKED INTO THEIR PROPOSED COST? NO, BUT IT WAS PART OF THEIR OUTREACH PLAN THEY SUBMITTED IN THE PROPOSAL.

AND SO EACH OF THEM HAVE PROPOSED TO PROVIDE FREE HELMETS.

WHEN WE COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 12TH, WE'LL HAVE THAT HELMET PLAN AND BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT HOW MANY HELMETS EACH COMPANY WILL BE PROPOSING TO GIVE UP.

OKAY.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, HAVING THEM AT RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS, THAT KIND OF THING, WHAT'S TO STOP PEOPLE FROM EVERY TIME THEY'RE GONNA USE IT, THEY GET A NEW HELMET AND, UM, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO WITH 'EM? TOSS 'EM, OR ARE THEY GONNA REUSE 'EM? I, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY WASTING SOMEBODY'S MONEY BY OFFERING A HELMET TO EVERY RIDER THAT WANTS TO USE 'EM.

SO, GOT A LITTLE CONCERN ABOUT THAT.

UM, WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE FINAL, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE WITH THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS? WHO, IS THIS UP TO THE RIDER, THEY TAKE ON FULL RESPONSIBILITY, OR ARE THE COMPANIES REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF A, UH, INSURANCE TO THE, WELL, THEY EACH HAVE THE REQUIRED MANDATORY INSURANCE AS PROPOSED BY THIS.

OH, YOU'RE NOT ON, OKAY.

EACH USER AGREEMENT HAS THE INSURANCE BAKED IN AND THE CI, THE ACTUAL WRITER IS TAKING ON THAT LIABILITY.

OKAY.

SO THE COMPANIES AREN'T LIABLE FOR ANYTHING PER THEIR, PER THE AGREEMENT THE USER READS? CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND THE INJURIES THAT WE HAVE SEEN, ARE THEY SCRAPES AND BRUISES, BROKEN ARMS, BROKEN LEGS, BROKEN HEADS? WHAT, WHAT KIND OF INJURIES ARE WE GETTING OUT THERE TODAY? UM, IT'S BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE EARLIER, UM, SO THE ACTUAL ACCIDENTS HAVE GONE DOWN.

UM, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN, UM, SEVERAL THAT HAVEN'T HAD TO HAVE A TRANSPORT, SO THAT WOULD LEAD ME TO BELIEVE IT'S MORE SCRAPES AND, AND FALLING.

UM, AND THEN THOSE THAT ACTUALLY GO TRANSPORTED TO THE AMBULANCE.

WE CAN BREAK THAT AND PROVIDE THE ACTUAL DETAIL TO YOU THOUGH.

YEAH, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO RELATE IT TO, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY HELMETS WE'RE GONNA BE SUPPLYING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT KIND OF INJURIES ARE BEING SUSTAINED.

AND WE WOULD NOT BE REQUIRING HELMETS.

WE WOULD BE MAKING THEM AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN IS.

WE WANNA HAVE HELMETS BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.

SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS A HELMET, WE WANT THEM TO KNOW WHERE THEY CAN GET A HELMET.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S THE PLAN THAT WE WILL BE PRESENTING.

ALRIGHT.

UM, GETTING BACK TO THE EVALUATION CRITERIA, THOSE TWO SLIDES, THE INITIAL AND THEN THE FINAL.

THERE IS SOME CHANGES, YOU KNOW, DURING THE, GOING FROM, YOU KNOW, THE TOTAL SCORES DOWN THERE MM-HMM.

, AND THEN WHAT YOU CAME UP WITH, THE FINAL, JUST THE TOP LINE UP THERE.

HOW DID WE GET CHANGES? DID THEY GET A CHANCE TO, UM, REVISE THEIR PROPOSALS BETWEEN THE INITIAL AND THE FINAL EVALUATION? AND SO THE INITIAL EVALUATION, UM, THAT WAS BASED ON THE PROPOSAL ONLY.

AND THEN AFTER WE IDENTIFIED THE TOP FIVE, INVITED THEM TO THE INTERVIEW, WE ALSO SUBMITTED QUESTIONS FOR THEM TO, TO RESPOND TO, AND WE ASKED THEM QUESTIONS.

AND SO THE FINAL EVALUATION WAS BASED ON BOTH THE PROPOSAL AND THEIR INTERVIEW.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE INITIAL, AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, UH, IF YOU TAKE THE, YOU KNOW, BIRD FOR EXAMPLE, THEIR QUALITY OF PROPOSAL AND EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS, THOSE NUMBERS CHANGED.

AND I WOULD THINK THAT'S, THAT SHOULD JUST BE ON THE, THE WRITTEN PROPOSAL.

HOW COULD THAT CHANGE BETWEEN THE INITIAL AND THE FINAL? WE WERE ABLE TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PENALTIES, FINES, SAFETY, MAINTENANCE STANDARDS, ALL OF THAT WAS ASKED DURING THESE INTERVIEWS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKEY DOKE.

UH, THAT I THINK IS ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

I DID WANNA RESPOND.

46% OF THOSE SURVEYED WERE NON-RESIDENTS OF ROT.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M SORRY, I FORGOT ONE QUESTION ON YOUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WAS THERE A REASON THAT WE DIDN'T

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INCLUDE S A P D? UH, DID NOT OR DID CORRECT.

DID NOT, NO, THERE WAS ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH.

UH, CAPTAIN BENAVIDEZ FROM SS A P D WAS ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE.

OH, GOOD.

I'M SORRY.

I COMPLETELY MISSED THAT.

IT'S OKAY.

AND WHAT ABOUT THE SECOND QUESTION WAS INNOVATION, DEPARTMENT OF INNOVATION? UH, WE FELT WITH, UH, CRAIG FROM, UH, IT DEPARTMENT BEING THERE AND THEN HAVING SOMEBODY ON THE, UM, COMMITTEE THAT'S ALSO, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE TECH INDUSTRY THAT WE, UM, KIND HAD THAT COVERED.

I COVERED THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER CAB HDA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION TO PIGGYBACK ON, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA THERE, WERE THERE ANY, UM, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVE IN THE SUBURBS? UH, NOT REPRESENTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? UM MM-HMM.

, BUT I, I DON'T LIVE DOWNTOWN.

OKAY.

BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE LIVES.

BUT WE HAD SPECIFICALLY, WE HAD, UM, LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, KING WILLIAM AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE, UM, A LARGE AMOUNT OF SCOOTERS DEPLOYED.

UM, AND THEN, BUT WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY TARGET A, A, A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

OH, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, DISTRICT SIX HAS, UM, KIND OF INNER AND, AND OUTER CITY AND A LOT OF SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE HAVE THESE SCOOTERS OUT THERE.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN THAT THAT WASN'T MAYBE, UM, SPECIFICALLY REPRESENTED MM-HMM.

, BUT, UM, I TAKE YOUR POINT THAT NOT EVERYBODY THAT WAS ON THE COMMITTEE LIVES DOWNTOWN.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER CAB AU.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRO.

YEAH, I, I THINK I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP ON THE EVALUATION FROM WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY WAS SAYING.

SO LORI, 'CAUSE YOU SAID, UH, ON SLIDE NUMBER NINE 'CAUSE THE INITIAL EVALUATION HAD BYRD AS NUMBER ONE AND THEN THE FINAL EVALUATION HAD THEM AT NUMBER FOUR.

BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE, YOU SAID THE INTERVIEW AND THE UH, OTHER PROPOSAL.

YES.

BUT IF YOU ALSO LOOK AT THE INITIAL EVALUATION, THEY WERE NUMBER ONE BECAUSE THEY GOT THE LOCAL PREFERENCE IN THE ECONOMIC TERMS. IF YOU LOOKED AT JUST WHAT THE EVALUATION TEAM SCORED, THEY WERE NOT NUMBER ONE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER VERUN.

UH, THANK YOU JOHN, LORI, UH, AND OUR CITY TEAM FOR THE PRESENTATION.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE, UM, INTERVENING MONTH AND THEN ONTO COUNCIL IN DECEMBER.

OKAY.

THE TIME IS NOW

[Executive Session]

4:17 PM ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 13TH, 2019.

THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL NOW MEET IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND THE DELIBERATE DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 REAL PROPERTY LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.

CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO LITIGATION INVOLVING THE CITY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.

CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND DELIBERATE THE CITY MANAGER EVALUATION PROCESS AND ANY RELATED LEGAL ISSUES PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.074 PERSONNEL MATTERS IN TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.

CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY.