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WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEETING.
TODAY IS MONDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH, 2019.
IT'S 10:00 AM NOW WE'LL BEGIN THE ROLL CALL.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTO TREVINO.
COUNCIL MEMBER JADA ANDREW SULLIVAN.
HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER ADRIANA ROCHA GARCIA.
HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER MANNY PAZ.
COUNCIL MEMBER ANNA SANDAL HERE.
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO OUR, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING.
WE HAVE A LOT OF ITEMS ON THE, UH, AGENDA TODAY.
[1. 19-7923 Approval of the Minutes for the September 20, 2019 Community Health and Equity Committee Meeting.]
WE'LL START WITH, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2019.DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.
[2. 19-8481 Briefing on the Human Services Head Start and Early Head Start-Child Care Partnership Programs and Fiscal Activities for September 2019. This item is included on the agenda as read-only. [Colleen M. Bridger, MPH, PhD, Assistant City Manager; Melody Woosley, Director, Human Services]]
I WILL READ INTO THE RECORD.ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE MONTHLY BRIEFING ON THE HEAD START PROGRAM BECAUSE NO ACTION ITEMS ARE REQUESTED THIS MONTH.
IT IS PROVIDED AS A WRITTEN BRIEFING.
ONLY MATERIALS ARE IN YOUR PACKET.
DO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE QUESTION FOUR? STAFF? NONE AT THIS TIME.
[3. 19-8023 Briefing and possible action on a Mental Health Systems Gap Analysis conducted by LadderLogik on behalf of the City of San Antonio and Bexar County. [Colleen M. Bridger, MPH, PhD, Assistant City Manager; Melody Woosley, Director, Human Services] (Part 1 of 2)]
TO ITEM THREE, AND THAT IS BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEMS GAP ANALYSIS.UH, MY NAME IS EDWARD GONZALEZ.
I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND THIS MORNING I'M GOING TO, UM, BE GIVING YOU A BRIEFING ON THE, ON A MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEMS GAP ANALYSIS THAT WE CONDUCTED, UH, THIS EARLIER THIS YEAR.
IT BEGAN IN JANUARY, AND, UH, WE, WE CONCLUDED THE, THE ANALYSIS IN, UM, IN, IN JULY OF THIS YEAR.
UH, BEFORE I BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THIS MORNING.
UH, CATHERINE DILLARD GONZALEZ, OUR CONSULTANT, UH, WITH LADDER LOGIC.
UH, MIKE ZITO WITH BEAR COUNTY.
DOUG BEACH WITH NAMI, PRESIDENT OF, OF NAMI.
UH, TERRY MARDO WITH NAMI EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
SO, UH, AS WAY OF BACKGROUND, UH, IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, THE CITY AND COUNTY, UM, CONVENED A GROUP OF REPRESENTATIVES OF, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS TO REALLY FORM A, A, A JOINT CITY COUNTY WORK GROUP.
SO, MEMBERS OF THIS WORK GROUP INCLUDED, UH, DR.
COLLEEN BRIDGER, UH, MELODY WOOSLEY, THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, MYSELF, UH, EDWARD GONZALEZ, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR BAR VASQUEZ WITH OUR SS A P D MENTAL, UH, HEALTH UNIT, UH, DR.
SHE'S OUR SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AT UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. UM, MIKE ZITO, TERRY MARTO, GILBERT GONZALEZ, AND SARAH HOGAN, UH, WHICH IS WITH OUR SOUTHWEST TEXAS REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL, BETTER KNOWN ASRAC.
SO THE GROUP'S FOCUS WAS TO IDENTIFY GAPS IN THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, SYSTEM AND SUBSEQUENTLY IDENTIFY WAYS IN WHICH THOSE GAPS CAN BE ADDRESSED BY, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION, UH, PRIMARILY FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, UH, THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF M SERVICES.
UH, THE LOCAL CONSULTANT, LADDER LOGIC LED BY CATHERINE WAS HIRED TO REALLY LOOK AT, UM, A NUMBER AND ANALYZE GAP ANALYSIS ACROSS THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM.
SO, UH, AS WE, UH, MENTAL HEALTH HAS BEEN, AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH HAS BEEN A, A EMPHASIS WITH A NUMBER OF LOCAL AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL AS GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.
AND THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF STUDIES, SO YOU'VE HEARD OF THE MENTAL, UH, THE MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH STUDY, UH, ALONG WITH, UH, VARIOUS OTHERS.
WE ASKED, UH, CATHERINE TO REALLY LOOK AT 25 DIFFERENT STUDIES AND BRING THOSE TOGETHER AND, AND KIND OF SUMMARIZE THAT SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND AND MAKE DECISIONS AROUND WHAT ARE THE GAPS THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY CAN ADDRESS.
SO THE, THE, THE ANALYSIS FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY AND ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY, UH, TO, TO IDENTIFY DISTINCT TYPES OF INTERVENTIONS THAT WE COULD ADDRESS TO ADDRESS THE LARGE AND DIVERSE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, ISSUES IN SAN ANTONIO.
IN JUNE, THE COM, UH, THE, THE REPORT WAS, WAS FINALIZED AND WE, UH, CONVENED TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I'LL TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT.
SO, THE GAP ANALYSIS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE REALLY GROUPED INTO SE UH, THESE SIX AREAS, UH, IN THE AREA OF NEW CAPACITY.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS CATEGORY REPRESENT NECESSARY INTERVENTIONS TO INCREASE
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ACCESS TO PERSONS EITHER, UH, SEEKING MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES VOLUNTARILY OR INVOLUNTARILY.ONE OF THE PRIMARY RECOMMENDATION IN THAT, IN THAT AREA WAS TO CREATE A PRE-CRISIS, UM, WALK-IN CARE FACILITY SPECIALIZES IN BEHAVIOR, HEALTH AND PRESCRIPTION MANAGEMENT.
THE, THE, IF THE PRIMARY WAY THAT PEOPLE IN CRI THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH, I ILLNESS, UH, ACCESS THOSE SERVICES AT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME ARE THROUGH A CRISIS.
SO IF YOU ARE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS AND YOU'RE PRIMARILY GOING TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND YOU'RE SEEING A PSYCHIATRIST AS AFTER, UH, A CRISIS EPISODE, REALLY WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS PRE-CRISIS CREDIT RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, IS TO HAVE SOMEBODY, UH, OR AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN, CAN GO AND VISIT AND GET SERVICES, PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES, AS WELL AS PRESCRIPTION SERVICES BEFORE A CRISIS IS TO OCCUR.
THE, UH, IN THAT AREA OF NEW CAPACITY AS WELL, THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT, UH, ABOUT FOCUSING ON CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY.
SO, SS A P D AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO EMERGENCY DETAIN INDIVIDUALS SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS, UH, AND SUFFERING FROM A CRISIS.
BUT THERE'S, AND THERE'S A, A MECHANISM TO DO THAT, BUT THERE IS NOT A MECHANISM TO EMERGENCY DETAIN PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY AT THIS POINT.
NOW, WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS THERE ARE PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT THOSE PROGRAMS ARE VOLUNTARY, VOLUNTARILY, UH, OPT-IN PROGRAMS BY, UH, INDIVIDUALS SUFFERING FROM THOSE ILLNESSES, UH, IN THE AREA OF, OF EXISTING CAPACITY AND EXPANSION.
SO THIS AREA IS REALLY FOCUSED AROUND ACCESS TO OUTPATIENT PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES.
THERE IS A, UH, UH, I WOULD SAY THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES FOR THE AMOUNT OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, UH, THAT NEED THE SERVICE AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE THAT GET, GET ACCESS TO THE SERVICE ARE TYPICALLY PEOPLE WITH PRIVATE PAY OR INSURANCE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF UNFUNDED INDIVIDUALS THAT, UH, CREATE A STRAIN ON THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A RESOURCE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WHICH, AGAIN, I'M, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THIS THEME OF THEY CONTINUE TO GO TO HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. THEY CONTINUE TO GO TO EMERGENCY ROOMS, AND THEY, THEY CONTINUE TO SEEK SERVICES AT THE, AT, AT THOSE LOCATIONS WHEN THERE'S A CRISIS.
SO THERE'S A CONTINUITY OF CARE, UM, EXPECTATION THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN TERMS OF, UH, HOW WE GET FOLKS TO THOSE INTERVENTION SERVICES BEFORE THERE'S A CRISIS IN THE AREA OF PROCESS IMPROVEMENT.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS CATEGORY REPRESENT THE NEED TO REVISIT CURRENT PROCESSES RELATED TO, UH, SPECIFIC SERVICES THAT COMPROMISE ACCESS OR ARE INCONSISTENT TO CONTINUOUS, UH, S UH, SERVICE DELIVERY.
THOSE ARE, AFTER SOMEONE IS IN A CRISIS EVENT OR SUFFER SUFFERS FROM A CRISIS EVENT.
THEY'RE USUALLY STABILIZED IN THE HOSPITAL, AND THEN THEY'RE GIVEN AN APPOINTMENT, AND USUALLY THOSE APPOINTMENTS ARE STAGGERED BETWEEN TWO TO SIX MONTHS.
UH, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A CRISIS EVENT, THEN YOU ARE, UH, RELEASED AND YOU'RE, YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE DOCTOR, AND THEN THAT YOUR APPOINTMENT IS NOT FOR SIX MONTHS, TWO TO SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT.
NOW, WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE INSTANCES? SOMETIMES PEOPLE MISS THEIR MISS THEIR APPOINTMENT, RIGHT? SO IF THEY MISS THEIR APPOINTMENTS, SOMETIMES THEY'RE KNOCKED OFF OF THAT, UM, OF THAT SCHEDULE.
SO THEN THAT SLOT GETS REASSIGNED TO SOMEONE ELSE AND OR THEY HAVE A CRISIS BEFORE THEIR NEXT APPOINTMENT, WHICH AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE NEED FOR, UH, PREVENTATIVE, UH, PRE-CRISIS INTERVENTION IN THE AREA OF, UM, ALSO ALONG WITH THAT, THERE'S COORDINATED DISCHARGE PLANNING WANTING TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT AFTER PEOPLE ARE DISCHARGED AND ASSIGNED TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS, THAT THAT SOMEONE HAS SOME OVERSIGHT INTO NAVIGATING THROUGH THOSE SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ATTEND THEIR, UH, THEIR APPOINTMENTS AND THEY DON'T HAVE LAPSES IN THE, IN THOSE AREAS.
OUR SS A P D TEAM AND THROUGH THE NEW CLINICIANS THAT, THAT WE'VE HIRED, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, TO CASE MANAGE AND DO, UH, FILL THAT GAP SOMEWHAT.
BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT, UH, OF NEED IN THAT AREA.
IN THE AREA OF INTEGRATION, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS CATEGORY REPRESENT CREATING ENVI ENVIRONMENTS WITH SEAMLESS TRANSITIONS WITH PERSONS WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, THESE ARE THINGS AFTERCARE INTERVENTIONS, UH, SIMILAR TO EXPANDING, UH, SERVICE ENRICHED HOUSING OR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
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PEOPLE ARE STABILIZED? WHAT IS THEIR AFTERCARE? HOW DO YOU KEEP THEM STABLE? KEEP THEM TAKING THEIR MEDICATIONS AND KEEP THEM SEEING THE, SEEKING THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE NEEDING.UM, ALSO ABOUT CONTI, JUST REALLY PROVIDING THAT CONTINUOUS ONGOING, UH, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE, AS WELL AS BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY MENTAL ILLNESS EARLY.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IDENTIFYING MENTAL ILLNESS AS CHILDREN IN SCHOOLS.
HOW DO WE EDUCATE OUR EDUCATORS ABOUT, UH, IDENTIFICATION, UH, TECHNIQUES, AND THEN CONNECTION TO THE, FROM THOSE TECHNIQUES TO SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, AND FINALLY, I'LL TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON SYSTEM AND STRUCTURE.
UH, CATHERINE PROVIDED SOME, SOME VERY GOOD INSIGHT INTO, UH, INTO MAKING SURE THAT TWO CRITICAL AREAS ARE, ARE ADDRESSED, AND THAT'S OVERSIGHT AND SERVICE DELIVERY.
UH, EACH OF THESE PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN THE EFFECTIVE DELIVERY OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHERE OUR SOUTHWEST TEXAS CRISIS COLLABORATIVE STEPS IN THIS IS A, A SUBGROUP OF THE STRAC OF THE OVERALL STRAC, AND THEY ARE REALLY FILLING THAT ROLE INTO, RIGHT NOW, STRAC REALLY FOCUSES ON, UM, HIGH UTILIZERS OF EMERGENCY ROOMS, BUT I THINK THAT, AND, AND THEY ARE EXPANDING TO BE THE COORDINATING BODY OF ALL MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, IS WE NEED THAT BOND AND THAT GLUE TO REALLY COORDINATE, UH, AMONGST ALL OF OUR PROVIDERS.
SO, UH, HEARING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, UH, GAPS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, THE WORK GROUP REALLY IDENTIFIED AND WANTED TO FOCUS ON TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THEY WANTED TO HAVE A PREVENTION FOCUS.
UH, MOST OF THESE, THE, THE AREAS THAT ARE COVERED IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE INTERVENTION, UH, SERVICES AND, AND SERVICES THAT ARE HAPPENING AFTER CRISIS.
SO THEY REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON PREVENTION AND EXPANSION OF THE COORDINATION WITH THE SOUTH TEXAS CRISIS COLLABORATIVE.
AND THE, AND REALLY THAT MEANS, UH, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO ESTABLISH A PRE-CRISIS URGENT CARE FACILITY WHERE WE CAN TAKE WALK-IN CLIENTS AS WELL AS FOCUS ON FAMILIES, UH, BOTH ADULTS AND YOUTH.
SO WHAT ARE THE GOALS OF THE PRE-CRISIS CLINIC? THE PRE-CRISIS CLINIC WOULD PROVIDE TRIAGE, IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES AND ONSITE PHARMACIES TO PREVENT ESCALATION OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES, UH, TO INCLUDE EMERGENCY ROUTE VISITS.
SO THIS WOULD BE A LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR APPOINTMENT, FOR THEIR, WITH THEIR PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN, UH, AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE EITHER CANNOT GET ACCESS TO THEIR MEDICATIONS OR THEY NEED, UH, PSYCHE, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY.
THIS IS THE LOCATION THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO, TO GET THOSE SERVICES.
UH, THE CENTER WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO BOTH YOUTH AND ADULTS, FUF SUFFERING FROM A RANGE OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES.
AND, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE OUTPATIENT TREATMENT, UH, SERVICE.
SO THEY WOULD FOCUS ON PREVENTING MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, REDUCING ENGAGEMENT OF FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, PREVENTING CHRONIC HOSPITALIZATIONS, ET CETERA.
THE, THE TARGET POPULATION, AGAIN, WOULD BE ADULTS, CHILDREN, AND YOUTH REQUIRING TREATMENT FOR THESE ARE THE, THE DIAGNOSES THAT, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED FOR THE CLINIC.
SO PE UH, INDIVIDUALS SUFFERING FROM A SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS, A SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER, AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER, AND INTELLECTUAL OR DEVELOPMENTAL ILLNESS.
SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, WILL BE, UH, HIRING A CONSULTANT.
UH, SO IN THE F Y IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET, WE HAVE $50,000 THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED AS PART OF OUR STRONG CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, UH, AND AT WORK TO REALLY START THE CONVERSATION ABOUT IDENTIFYING THE FUNDING AND WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO IDENTIFY FUNDING TO MAKE THIS, UH, THIS, THIS PRE, UH, CRISIS CLINIC A A REALITY.
NOW, THE COUNTY, UH, THEY ARE CURRENTLY IDENTIFYING AND LOOKING THROUGH EXISTING, UH, FUNDING THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM TO SEE HOW WE CAN FUND THIS.
NOW, OUR, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, WE AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH THIS WOULD COST, BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR, OUR CONSULTANT WOULD BE DOING.
WE'D ASK THEM TO REALLY, UH, CREATE AN ANALYSIS OF, YOU KNOW, UH, BUILDING THAT, THAT COST STRUCTURE FOR US AND, AND IDENTIFYING, UH, THE HOURS OF SERVICE.
WOULD THIS BE AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, 24 HOURS, OR WOULD THIS BE A DAYTIME CLINIC? AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, WOULD THIS BE ONE LOCATION OR WOULD IT BE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS? SO, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, MADAM CHAIR, AND I'M A AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH COUNCILWOMAN
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ANDREWS SULLIVAN.UM, SO I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO, WELL, FIRST LET ME SAY THANK YOU.
UM, THIS PRESENTATION AND KNOWING THAT THIS PROCESS IS ACTUALLY BEING PUT IN PLACE IS DEFINITELY NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO EXACTLY HOW THIS IS GONNA PLAY OUT, UM, WITH THE CLINICS THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED.
I KNOW NAMI DOES A WONDERFUL JOB WHEN IT COMES TO TRULY ASSISTING OUR VETERANS AND FILLING THOSE GAPS WHERE THE VA KIND OF LEAVES US STRAGGLING ALONG THE WAYSIDE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AS WELL.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CLINIC, ARE WE LOOKING AT A CHARITY BASED SPECTRUM, OR IS IT, UM, GONNA BE BASED ON IF THEY HAVE MEDICARE, MEDICAID? UM, IS, IS THAT BEING LOOKED AT AS WELL, OR IS IT JUST WALKING THAT, THAT IS, SO ONE OF THE PRIMARY RECOMMENDATIONS, OR ONE OF THE, THE GAPS IS THAT THERE ARE FOLKS THAT DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE.
THEY DO NOT HAVE THE MEANS TO, TO, UH, AND I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE.
OUR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, RIGHT? SO THAT WE HAVE, UH, UH, OVER 50% OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ARE CASE MANAGING THROUGH OUR CLINICIANS WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH UNIT.
OUR HIGH UTILIZER LIST ARE HOMELESS.
SO THIS WOULD BE A LOCATION WHERE WE, AS OUR CLINICIANS ARE, ARE CASE MANAGING THEM, MAKING SURE THEY'RE GETTING TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS.
THIS WOULD ALSO BE A LOCATION WHERE THEY COULD ACCESS SERVICES AS WELL.
UH, SO IT'S NOT JUST FOR, IT'S, IT'S TO ADDRESS THAT GAP.
AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE CENTERS, AND IF THERE IS SOMEONE THAT COMES IN AND YOU CAN TELL THEY'RE GETTING READY TO GO INTO A CRISIS, UM, WILL THEY HAVE ACCESS TO EITHER TRANSPORT THEM TO AN INPATIENT, INPATIENT FACILITY? UM, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THEY COME IN, BUT THEY'RE LIKE RIGHT ON THE BORDERLINE OF HAVING THAT CRISIS, I THINK.
UM, SO THERE ARE, UH, A NUMBER OF, OF WAYS THAT, UH, AND RESOURCES FOR FOLKS THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOING INTO CRISIS.
SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT, THAT THIS, UH, GROUP WOULD KNOW AND HAVE THOSE CONNECTIONS.
UH, BUT, SO YES, ABSOLUTELY THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS EITHER THROUGH, UH, CALLING 9 1 1, OBVIOUSLY, UH, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT, I SEE IT SIMILAR TO LIKE URGENT CARE CLINICS, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE AN URGENT CARE CLINIC ACROSS THE COMMUNITY, YOU SEE THEM ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MORE THAN THAN A FEW.
AND IF SOMEBODY GOES IN THERE THINKING THAT THEY NEED SOME TYPE OF A PHYSICAL, UM, ASSISTANCE, AND THEN THEY SAID, NO, THIS IS AN EMERGENCY.
YOU NEED TO GO TO ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WOULD, THAT, THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THIS CASE AS WELL.
AND THEN FOR OUR FAMILIES THAT ARE, UM, HAVING THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES OR THEY HAVE YOUNGER CHILDREN, THEY DON'T HAVE MEANS OF, OF GETTING TO THE, THE CLINIC ITSELF.
UH, ARE THERE GONNA BE VAN SERVICES OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'LL BE CONNECTED WITH VIA TO MAYBE HELP THAT FAMILY GET TO THE CLINIC? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, WE CAN ASK OUR CONSULTANT TO, TO ADDRESS AND, AND, AND IDENTIFY WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE AND THE RESOURCES THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO, TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE PRIVATE PAY INSURANCE, YOU'RE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A A MEANS FOR TRANSPORTATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS.
YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY CATEGORIZED AS LOW INCOME, UH, ET CETERA.
SO THESE ARE, YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE HOUSING.
SO THE, WE HAVE TO TAKE AN, A HOLISTIC APPROACH IN HOW WE ADDRESS THIS, AND TRANSPORTATION'S DEFINITELY, UH, ON THAT LIST.
AND THEN WITH OUR YOUTH AND SCHOOL BASED, UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, A LOT OF SCHOOLS WITH, WITH CHILDREN THAT ARE START, THEY'RE STARTING TO SEE BEHAVIORS.
UM, ARE THEY ABLE TO MAKE A REFERRAL THROUGH THE FAMILY OR TO THE CLINIC TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE FAMILY BECAUSE THEY SEE A TREND THAT IS STARTING.
UM, I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES KIDS CAN KIND OF HAVE, UM, A DISCONNECT.
AND SO TO HAVE THE PROPER TREATMENT, UM, BEFORE IT GETS OUTTA HAND, WILL A SCHOOL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT REFERRAL OUT? OR DOES IT HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE FAMILY? NO, WE THINK THAT, UH, THAT WE WANT, WHEN THIS CRISIS, WHEN THIS, UH, PRE-CRISIS CLINIC COMES TO FRUITION, WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY WOULD TAKE REFERRALS FROM THE SCHOOLS.
UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE IT'S A CONTINUITY OF COM.
WE WANT TO IDENTIFY MENTAL HEALTH, UH, DISORDERS AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES AT A EARLY AGE SO THAT WE CAN HELP ADDRESS THAT.
SO ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES AND OUR, AND WHAT WE HOPE TO ACHIEVE.
AND THEN ALSO TO, UH, NO, I'M SORRY.
THIS IS WHERE, SO WITH, WITH THE VETERAN SYSTEM, UM, THE TIMEFRAME FOR SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY SEE A MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER, UM, WILL THIS CLINIC BE ABLE TO FILL THE GAPS?
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AND THEN WILL IT ALSO HAVE THE ELECTRONIC RECORD SYSTEM THAT KIND OF ALREADY FEEDS INTO ALL OF THE HOSPITALS AND THE OTHER INSTITUTIONS? ABSOLUTELY.SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY ONE OF THE, THE, THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A PRE-CRISIS CLINIC SO THAT FOLKS DON'T HAVE TO WAIT, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR APPOINTMENTS IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO GET INTO THIS, UH, TO BE SEEN BEFORE THEIR APPOINTMENT DATE.
WE WANT, WE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
THAT'S WHAT, WHAT THE RESOURCE WILL BE USED FOR.
UM, SO YES, ABSOLUTELY WE DO THAT.
AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE REALLY WANT TO BE ROBUST IN, IN HOW WE PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
AND THEN MY LAST AND FINAL QUESTION WOULD BE, AS FAR AS THE, THE MEDICATION, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT IS KEPT ON FACILITY GROUNDS, OR WOULD THEY BE GIVEN A VOUCHER TO GO TO A PHARMACY? HOW WOULD THAT BE SET UP? OUR, UH, THOUGHT, INITIAL THOUGHT, AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS, BUT OUR INITIAL THOUGHT IS THAT MEDICATION ACCESS COULD BE ON SITE.
UH, WE ARE NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD WORK OUT OR WHAT TYPE OF LICENSES, ET CETERA, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE.
UH, BUT IF IT'S JUST, UH, WE DEFINITELY THINK IT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THE SYSTEM AND OF THE CENTER TO BE SUCCESSFUL, IT HAS TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
SO IT CANNOT JUST BE PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES.
IT HAS TO BE PSYCHIATRIC AND PRESCRIPTION MANAGEMENT.
JUST, UH, REAL QUICK BEFORE, UH, WE MOVE ON, I WAS LOOKING FOR A COPY OF THE REPORT B LADDER LOGIC.
UM, I WAS HOPING IT WOULD BE IN OUR PACKET, BUT I DON'T SEE IT.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'M NOT, SO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ATTACHED, AND WE'LL GET YOU A COPY OF IT.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO BRING SOME COPIES? SURE.
SO FOR OUR DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW IT.
THANK YOU, UM, EDWARD, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
I JUST HAVE A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, FIRST, AND THANK YOU, BY THE WAY, FOR WORKING ON THIS.
I KNOW THAT THE FOCUS ON TEENS AND YOUTH IS IMPORTANT IN, IN MY DISTRICT.
I HAD A FEW STUDENTS FROM SOUTH END RECENTLY, HAD A, A GOOD VICTORY ADVOCATING ABSOLUTELY GREAT FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.
THEN I'LL BE SPEAKING WITH OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT I THINK THAT WE CAN BE DOING.
SO I THINK WE ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH.
I DO HAVE A, UM, QUESTION SPECIFICALLY REGARDING YOU.
YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, UM, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, FOLKS WITH, UH, MENTAL ILLNESSES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY THE HOMELESS.
AND SO I MET WITH SARAH A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND IN SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, IS THAT ANYTHING THAT THIS, UH, PLAN WOULD ALSO BE CONSIDERING SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO THE FOLKS WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESSES? YEAH, SO THIS, UH, SO THE GAP ANALYSIS, UH, LOOKED INTO THAT.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE CONTINUITY OF SERVICES, UH, IS FOCUSED, RIGHT? AND IT'S THE AFTERCARE.
SO AFTER SOMEONE IS STABILIZED, THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE, AS CASE MANAGERS WITH OUR CLINICIANS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON BOARD, UH, ARE GOING TO HELP ADDRESS, RIGHT? THE CLINICIANS ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE ATTENDING THEIR, THEY'RE TAKING THEIR MEDICATION, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY HOMELESS, UH, INDIVIDUALS.
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR MEDICATION.
THEN AFTER THEY HAVE THE ACCESS TO MEDICATION, THEN WE, AND THEY'RE REALLY STABILIZED, THEN WE, WE REALLY HOPE TO FOCUS ON THOSE OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE CRITICAL TO, UH, THEIR JOURNEY TOWARDS PERMANENT HOUSING.
AND, AND SOME OF THAT, SOME INDIVIDUALS HAVE SUCH SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS THAT THEY, THEY PROBABLY NEED TO BE IN SOME TYPE OF SERVICE RICH HOUSING FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
UH, I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE, UH, THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES, UH, UH, WE ARE, UH, WORKING TOWARDS EXPANDING OUR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING INVENTORY AT THIS POINT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF SCATTERED SITE, UH, PERMANENT SUPPORT OF HOUSING, BUT WE ARE HOPEFULLY GOING TO HAVE OUR, OUR NEWEST PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UH, UM, COMPLEX IN, IN DISTRICT TWO.
AND THAT WOULD BE OPERATED BY OUR CATHOLIC WORKER HOUSE.
I THINK THEY HAVE AN ANOTHER NAME, BUT I, I ALWAYS CALL THEM CATHOLIC WORKER HOUSE.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT IS AN INTERVENTION THAT WOULD HELP ASSIST THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
AND THERE ARE A GROUP OF, UH, YOU KNOW, A SMALL GROUP OF FOLKS THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY LIVING IN THAT TYPE OF, UH, UH, ASSISTANCE FOR, FOR YEARS NOW THAT, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
IT'S VERY SERVICE ENRICH, VERY, UH, INTENSIVE.
AND, UH, PEOPLE, UH, THEY LIVE VERY, UH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIVES IN THOSE, IN THOSE, UH, IN THOSE FACILITIES.
SO IT'S DIFFERENT THAN INSTITUTIONALIZED, UH, ENVIRONMENTS, UH, WHERE WE WOULD GO TO BE GOING TO SASH, ET CETERA.
SO, YES, WE'RE HOPING THAT PER PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING REALLY DOES ASSIST, UH, OUR HOMELESS POPULATION.
IT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY STRATEGIES TO GETTING CHRONIC HOMELESS, UH, REALLY OFF THE STREET.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FOCUS ON VETERANS, AND SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER, UH, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
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WORKING WITH MAYBE SOME OF OUR, UM, LOCAL MILITARY LEADERS AND, AND SEEING WHAT IT IS THAT WE CAN DO TO LEVERAGE EVEN SOME FUNDING? I DON'T KNOW, PERHAPS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, OR JUST ADVOCATING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO IDENTIFY SOME FUNDING, BUT I JUST THOUGHT I'D THROW THAT OUT THERE AS WELL.WE WILL, UH, I THINK AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE FUNDING, UH, STREAMS FROM BOTH FEDERAL, STATE, UH, UH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND STATE GOVERNMENT.
SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, MENTAL HEALTH FOCUSED, UH, GRANTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN, UH, WE'VE STARTED TO, TO ENGAGE INTO.
WE HAVEN'T, I DON'T THINK WE'VE FULLY REALIZED THE RESOURCE IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY BE DOING THAT FOR THIS.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, I KNOW THAT STRECK, I VISITED STRECK A FEW WEEKS AGO, SO I GOT A TOUR AND, UM, THEY SHARED SOME OF THE, UM, I GUESS SOME OF THE COMMUNICATION THAT THEY USE TO, UH, WITH OTHER HOSPITALS.
AND SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT SYSTEM WOULD ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO THE FOLKS PARTICIPATING EVENTUALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE PRE-CRISIS CLINIC.
UH, AND SO THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING THAT SPECIFICALLY IS BECAUSE, UM, IT HAD BEEN WORKING IN SILOS FROM WHAT I LEARNED ATRAC BEFORE, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PRE-CRISIS CLINIC ALSO HAS ACCESS TO THAT.
AND SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS MIGHT ALREADY BE LOOKING AT THAT.
OUR INTENTION IS TO REALLY JUST, UH, UH, PLACE IT RIGHT INTO THE STR INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE FEEL THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY, THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB IN COORDINATING THE, THE SILOED, UM, WHAT YOU DESCRIBED AS SILOS.
UH, IT'S VERY COMPLEX, MENTAL HEALTH, UH, AND DEALING WITH MENTAL ILLNESS IS VERY COMPLEX.
IT'S, I'LL TELL YOU, I'M, I AM DEFINITELY NO EXPERT.
SO I WILL LOOK TO THE EXPERTS THAT ARE HERE.
THAT'S WHY I INVITE, I INVITED THEM.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT STRAC IS THE AGENCY AND THE ENTITY THAT WOULD BE DOING THAT, AND WE'RE SUPPORTING THEM, UH, 100%.
UH, AND THEN FINALLY, WILL THE CONSULTANT ALSO BE LOOKING FOR EXISTING BUILDINGS AVAILABLE? THAT MIGHT ALREADY BE, I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT, BUT IT MIGHT BE USEFUL FOR REPURPOSING FOR YES.
SO, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
LEASE FACILITIES, UH, FORMER OR CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.
WELL, WE'LL, WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT, UH, FORMER HOSPITALS.
SO THERE ARE HOSPITALS THAT ARE, AND HOSPITAL SECTIONS THAT ARE EITHER RECENTLY CLOSED OR TRANSITIONING TO ANOTHER, UH, AREA.
BUT WE'LL BE WORKING, I, I ANTICIPATE AS WE LOOK FOR LOCATION OR IDENTIFY LOCATIONS, WE'LL BE CONSULTING MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE BEST APPROACH APPROACHES, UH, WHETHER THAT BE MULTI-LOCATION OR SINGLE LOCATION.
I THINK THERE'S BENEFITS TO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.
AND WE'RE GONNA ASK OUR CONSULTANT TO REALLY HELP US DIG INTO THAT SO THAT WE, WE CAN INFORM THE COUNCIL TO HELP US GUIDE THROUGH THAT DECISION.
AND I'D IMAGINE THAT ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF THESE FOLKS AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN EVENTUALLY, 'CAUSE I KNOW THIS IS LIKE FOR NOW, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE MAYBE SOME MOBILE HEALTH UNITS, RIGHT? OR PRE-CRISIS UNITS THAT COULD BE DEPLOYED TO HIGH SCHOOLS OR MIDDLE SCHOOLS OR, ANYWAY, BUT THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A WISHLIST ITEM.
I KNOW WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THIS ITEM FIRST, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UH, COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN, UM, ON COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA, GARCIA'S QUESTION, WHEN IT COMES TO VETERANS, I KNOW THAT THE VA HAS A CHOICE PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE NOW, UH, SETTING UP BECAUSE OF THE TIMEFRAME THAT IS TAKEN FOR OUR VETERANS TO REALLY SEE EITHER A PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN OR EITHER A MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN, UM, MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PARTNERED WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GAP WITH THE VETERANS ARE ACTUALLY CLOSED.
IF YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THAT YET, THAT'S GREAT.
WE'LL, WE WILL REACH OUT TO THEM.
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VA AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR, OUR HOMELESS VETERAN INITIATIVE.
UH, UH, SO WE WILL MAYBE AS A STARTING POINT, SEE HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC POPULATION AND THEN EXPAND IT TO VETERANS IN GENERAL.
AND I'M SURE TERRY CAN HELP US WITH THAT AS WELL.
COUNCILMAN, PLEASE DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, I KNOW WE'RE WAITING TO GET COPIES OF THE REPORT.
UM, IF YOU DON'T, CAN I, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO DO THIS.
JUST PUT THIS ON HOLD FOR A SECOND, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO WRAP IT UP AFTER THAT.
[4. 19-8367 Update on Boards and Commissions Application System and Processes Recommendations. [Leticia M. Vacek, City Clerk]]
ITEM, UM, MADAM CHAIR, IS THE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UPDATE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPLICATION SYSTEM AND PROCESS RECOMMENDATIONS.AND IN YOUR PACKET, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN GET UP FOR, OKAY, SO GOOD MORNING.
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HAVE, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED AS FAR AS WHAT ITEMS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED THUS FAR.AND I'M GONNA GO OVER THAT, UH, QUICKLY.
AND I DO HAVE ONE SLIDE TO SHOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE, UH, GOT IT OR NOT.
UH, IF, IF I MAY, JUST REAL QUICK, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL REPORT THAT WE CAN COMPARE WITH? I DON'T.
I HAVE IT WITH ME, BUT I CAN GET IT TO YOU.
SO, UM, WELL, UH, I THINK JUST FOR US TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE COMPARING TO.
SO CAN YOU MAYBE JUST, UH, NAME THOSE AS YOU GO ALONG? SURE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL LISTED ON HERE.
IF, UM, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN MORE HELPFUL, BUT I CAN GO THROUGH EACH ONE.
SO FOR ITEMS THAT ARE ALREADY, UH, IN PLACE, WE HAVE THE PRE-SCREENING AND THE PREQUALIFICATION PROCESS.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
THE, ONCE WE RECEIVE THE APPLICATION, IT GOES TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR VETTING.
AND ONCE THEY REVIEW IT, UH, THEY LET US KNOW AND INDICATE TO US WHETHER IT'S, UH, UH, READY FOR THE AGENDA.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE SELECTION CRITERIA.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, THE SELECTION CRITERIA IS MADE BY YOU, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SO THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE AS WELL.
TERM LIMITS IS ALREADY IN PLACE AS WELL.
MOST OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOLLOW YOUR SAME TERM LIMITS, SO THEY'RE CONCURRENT WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TERM LIMITS.
NOW, THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN CHANGE IF YOU WISH, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY IN PLACE.
ATTENDANCE, ACCOUNTABILITY, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THIS COMMITTEE, AND IT WAS, UM, IT WAS STATED IN THE END THAT IF A COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, APPOINTS A BOARD MEMBER, AND THAT BOARD MEMBER MISSES QUITE A FEW MEETINGS, UH, THAT IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU TO REPLACE THAT BOARD MEMBER.
SO IT IS, UH, THAT AGAIN, IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN PLACE.
SO ITEMS THAT ARE COMPLETED OR R THE VACANCIES ARE NOW POSTED ONLINE, AND, UH, THEY'RE ON OUR WEBPAGE.
ALSO, WE INCORPORATED FEEDBACK FROM THE OFFICE OF EQUITY ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WHICH FOCUSED ON DEMOGRAPHICS FOR REPORTING PURPOSES.
SO THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS INCLUDE AGE, GENDER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, ADDITIONAL RACE, ETHNICITY, ETHNICITY OPTIONS.
AND THOSE ARE ALL INCORPORATED NOW FOR THE NEW REPORTING OF THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS.
UH, CURRENT SEATS AND APPLICANT POOL ARE ALSO PART OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS AS WELL AS THE, UH, DATA THAT'S BEING COLLECTED NOW WHEN PEOPLE FILL OUT THEIR APPLICATION.
UH, CURRENTLY ACHIEVED ALSO IS THE, UH, MANUAL, UH, MANIPULATION OF THE DATA, UH, WHICH, UM, WE THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE NEW SYSTEM.
OUR SYSTEM, AS YOU KNOW, IS OLD AND ANTIQUATED WITH THE NEW SYSTEM, WE CAN MANIPULATE THAT DATA A BIT FURTHER FOR MORE ADDITIONAL REPORTING.
SO ITEMS THAT ARE IN PROCESS, AND I WANTED TO THANK, UM, SINCE THEY JUST WALKED IN.
MATT LEWELLEN, WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND? MATT HAS BEEN OUR IT PARTNER IN THIS, AND HE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
WE'VE BEEN MEETING ON A WEEKLY BASIS AND TO ENSURE THAT THESE ITEMS DO GET INCORPORATED.
AND ALSO KATYA IS HERE FROM OUR IT DEPARTMENT.
KATYA, WOULD YOU STAND? UM, AND SHE MAKES SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS GETTING DONE AS WELL.
SO THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE.
UM, ITEMS IN PLACE ALREADY THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ARE THE DESCRIPTIONS FOR THE 86 PLUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, THAT WAS GIVEN TO IT.
AND THEY HAVE INCORPORATED THAT.
THE ENABLING ORDINANCES, I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT HAS NOT QUITE BEEN COMPLETED.
WE HAVE, UH, PROVIDED THOSE TO THE I T S D DEPARTMENT, AND THEY ARE WORKING ON PUTTING ALL OF THEM, UM, ON THE WEBSITE WITH A LINK.
THE TRANSLATION OF THE BOARD AND COMMISSION APPLICATION HAS BEEN COMPLETED, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, UM, THAT IS BEING WORKED ON WITH I T S D TO PUT ON THE MANDATORY VERSUS THE NON-MANDATORY FIELDS ARE ALSO HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
THEY'RE ON THE APPLICATION NOW.
WE HAVE ALSO ADDED THE WEBPAGE LINK TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ON THE CITY'S MAIN WEBPAGE.
ALSO, THAT LINK HAS BEEN ADDED TO EACH DEPARTMENT'S, UH, WEBPAGE.
SO THAT TOO HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
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UM, DID YOU WANNA ADDRESS THE ENABLING ORDINANCES AND THE LINKS THAT Y'ALL ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON? MATT? AND THEN ALSO THE ONE THING I DID NOT, UH, ADDRESS IS THAT IS BEING WORKED ON WITH US JOINTLY, IS, UH, THE AUTOMATION PROCESS FOR A NEW TULEY REPLACEMENT SYSTEM.SO THE ENABLING ORDINANCE PIECE, UH, TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF REWORK, UH, TO THE CURRENT SYSTEM.
UM, OUR TEAMS ARE WORKING ON IT, BUT THEY'VE, UH, ENCOUNTERED SOME CHALLENGES IN DOING THAT, THAT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES SOME KIND OF REWORK AND RECODING.
UH, WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON, UM, A NEW AND IMPROVED SYSTEM.
WE ARE GETTING A DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF IT GOVERNANCE, UH, WHICH WAS SCHEDULED FOR LAST WEEK.
IT'S GONNA GET RESCHEDULED, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE, UH, PENDING THAT FEEDBACK.
SO IT'S BEEN COMPLETED, IT NOW HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE IT GOVERNANCE PROCESS IS THE NEXT STEP.
ONCE IT GOES BEFORE THAT GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE OF IT, THEN IT'S APPROVED, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH AN R F P RELEASING AN R F P.
THERE'S A, IN YOUR PACKET UNDER THE MEMO INLET ENTITLED FUTURE PROJECTS, UH, TO BE OUTLINED.
ALL THOSE PROJECTS UNDER THAT PARTICULAR, UM, HEADER ARE FOR THE NEW SYSTEM, AND THESE ARE DESIGN, UH, SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE COLLABORATED WITH IT THAT WE NEED IN A NEW SYSTEM.
AND THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED WITH A BRAND NEW SYSTEM.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, WE CAN ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME.
WE'RE GONNA START WITH COUNCILWOMAN JADA.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH LAIA BEFORE ALL YOU DO, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO LISTENING TO, UM, THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT APPOINTEES IN PLACE FOR THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO AND THE TEAM DOES, AND ESPECIALLY THAT IT DOES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RUNNING SMOOTHLY.
I KNOW I WAS CONTINUOUSLY ASKING YOU ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE APPLICATION, THERE IS TWO BOXES, ONE THAT ASK IF YOU ARE, UM, ELIGIBLE TO VOTE, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THAT ASK ABOUT YOUR, YOUR CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.
SO I WAS WONDERING, UNDER THE MANDATORY AND NON MANDATORY FIELDS, ARE THOSE THE BOXES THAT WE'RE CONVERTING OR ARE THEY STILL ON THE APPLICATION? YES, THEY ARE.
AND IT'S MY, UM, RECOLLECTION, MATT, REMIND ME, WE DID DO THE, UM, THE, UH, ONE THAT JADA JUST TALKED ABOUT ON THE BACKGROUND.
AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE IMPLEMENTING THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND ZIP CODES AND, AND THAT INTO THE PROGRAM AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT TRULY HELPS US.
YES, START TO LOOK AT WHO AND HELP YOU NOT TO HAVE TO SIT THERE AND GO THROUGH EVERY APPLICATION AND SAY, WHAT ARE YOU APPLYING FOR AND WHAT COUNCIL DISTRICT.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE, THE NEW APPLICATION.
COUNCILWOMAN, UH, ADRIANA, CIA.
THANK YOU LETICIA, AND THANK YOU MATT AND THE TEAM FOR WORKING ON THIS.
ON THE VACANCIES THAT SAYS IT'S POSTED ON THE WEBPAGE, WHERE ELSE DO WE POST THEM IN ADDITION TO THE WEBPAGE, OR HOW ELSE DO WE LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE'S VACANCIES? SO WHEN WE HAVE A VACANCY, UH, THE CURRENT PROCESS IS WE RECEIVE SOMETHING FROM YOUR OFFICE AND, UH, THAT STARTS OUR PROCESS.
WE SEND OUT A PRESS RELEASE, UM, AND THAT'S THROUGH OUR G P A DEPARTMENT, AND IT'S SENT OUT TO A MULTITUDE OF ORGANIZATIONS, NONPROFIT AND PROFIT, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, ET CETERA.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO, UH, GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WHEN WE GET ASKED TO SPEAK, AND WE DO GET ASKED TO SPEAK QUITE OFTEN, WE DO ATTEND VARIOUS NON-PROFIT MEETINGS, UH, OR FOR-PROFIT CHAMBERS.
IT'S NOT JUST ONE CHAMBER, BUT SEVERAL.
AND WE DO GIVE PRESENTATIONS ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND WHAT VACANCIES ARE AVAILABLE.
JUST RECENTLY I SPOKE TO THE MASTER'S LEADERSHIP PROGRAM, AND THAT WAS THE LAST ONE.
I'VE JUST, UH, RECENTLY SPOKE TO ABOUT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS VACANCIES FROM THAT, WE'VE HAD FIVE PEOPLE APPLY FROM
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THAT MASTER'S LEADERSHIP CLASS.UM, IS THERE A LINK FOR FOLKS THAT MIGHT, UM, WANT TO APPLY OR CAN FOLKS WHO DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH, UM, APPLY IT FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND IS THERE SOMETHING THAT REASSURES THEM THAT THERE WILL BE A TRANSLATION? IF SO? YES.
WE JUST, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT Y'ALL MADE WAS TO HAVE OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPLICATION, UH, TRANSLATED INTO SPANISH.
AND THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND IT HAS BEEN POSTED AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, IT'S SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST SEE IT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DIG THROUGH IT, THAT, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY THEY'LL SAY, OH, I CAN PARTICIPATE.
SO, UM, I GUESS THE PLACEMENT OF THAT IS CRITICAL, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S CORRECT.
A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS THAT I REPRESENT MIGHT WANT TO PARTICIPATE, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF SHY.
I'VE SEEN OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, UM, DO A GREAT JOB AND, AND TRANSLATE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A, A CONSCIOUS EFFORT BY SOME OF THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BRING THIS UP.
SO, UM, AND THEN ALSO ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS, UM, I WAS WONDERING WHY WE DON'T HAVE AN EDUCATIONAL LEVEL IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS.
THE ONLY, OR DO WE, MAYBE I'VE MISSED THAT AT THIS TIME.
UH, THE BOX IS AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO INCLUDE WHAT EDUCATION THEY, UH, CURRENTLY HAVE OBTAINED.
I GUESS I'VE JUST MISSED THAT.
THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA JUST HAVE MASTER'S OR PHD LEVEL PEOPLE, SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A G E D EVEN, UM, FEEL LIKE THEY CAN PARTICIPATE.
UM, THANK YOU ALSO FOR THE AUTOMATIC NOTIFICATION TO APPLICANTS OF THEIR EXPIRING, UH, APPLICATION.
I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT.
SO THAT'S A NICE LITTLE EXTRA REMINDER.
I KNOW Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON THAT.
AND THAT WAS, UH, THANKS TO YOU, YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED.
NOW THEY DO GET A LITTLE REMINDER, UH, ONCE THEIR APPLICATION HAS TURNED ONE YEAR OLD, THAT WAY THEY CAN REAPPLY.
AND THEN SIMILAR TO THAT, THE AUTOMATIC NOTIFICATION WHEN SELECTED.
UM, SO I THINK THAT IT'S GREAT.
I'M INTERESTED IN, IN WHAT WE SAY WHEN SOMEONE'S NOT SELECTED, LIKE DO WE GIVE THEM KIND OF A, BUT BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPLY TO OTHER BOARDS.
AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT, WHAT THAT MESSAGE SAYS OR IF YOU'LL, SO TYPICALLY YES, FOR THE AT LARGE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WHEN YOU INTERVIEW IN YOUR COUNCIL COM, UH, COMMITTEE SETTINGS AFTERWARDS, I WILL SEND THEM A NOTIFICATION SAYING YOU HAVE MAJOR SELECTION.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE NOT SELECTED AT THIS TIME, BUT I ALWAYS TELL 'EM THERE ARE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT THEY CAN APPLY TO, AND WE DO ENCOURAGE 'EM.
AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE APPLY FOR OTHERS WHEN THEY'VE NOT BEEN SELECTED.
AND THEN ACTUALLY LEADING TO MY FINAL QUESTION IS, CAN WE KNOW THE NUMBER OF BOARDS THAT SOME PEOPLE APPLY TO? BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE JUST APPLY TO EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO SERVE, WHICH I, I APPRECIATE.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S ALSO HELPFUL BECAUSE THEN IT, IT, IF, IF THERE'S A BOARD THAT REALLY REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, SOME ADDITIONAL FOCUS, AND I'M LOOKING AT DO THEY HAVE THE TIME OR WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO SERVE ON, ON MULTIPLE BOARDS, ET CETERA.
SO HAS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SORT THROUGH EASILY WITH THE NEW PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE? ACTUALLY, WE CAN DO THAT WITH OUR CURRENT SYSTEM.
UM, AND I'LL TELL YOU, THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE THAT DO APPLY FOR, UH, VARIOUS BOARDS ALL AT ONE TIME.
AND SO WE, WE, WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
UM, I'M GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON, UH, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, THAT THE COUNCILWOMAN ASKED, UM, REGARDING, YOU KNOW, HOW WE PROMOTE, UH, VACANCIES.
UH, IS THERE A, THERE'S SO A STANDARD PROCEDURE FOR THAT PRETTY MUCH YES.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE LINK IS THERE.
THEY'D HAVE TO CLICK ON THE LINK AND THAT LINK TAKES YOU TO OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSION SYSTEM, IS THE WAY IT SET IT UP.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MATT, IS THAT THE WAY IT WAS SET UP? THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.
MATT, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE? YEAH, I'M SORRY.
THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE TRACKING TOWARDS.
UM, I'M ALSO GONNA INCORPORATE SOME OTHER USER EXPERIENCE EXPERTS WITHIN IT, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE DELIVER THAT IN THE RIGHT WAY, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MOST IMPACTFUL.
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LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? SO SOMETIMES IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING A, A LINK HERE AND A LINK THERE TO GET PEOPLE TO DRIVE, TO DRIVE TRAFFIC.UM, IT MAY BE THE DESIGN OF THE LINK OR A, MAYBE IT'S A BUTTON OR THE LOCATION.
UM, SO WHILE WE WANNA MAKE THAT EXPOSURE IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACE BECAUSE SOMEONE'S LOOKING AT THE ARTS PAGE, AND THEN YES, IT MAKES SENSE, UH, BUT HOW DO WE PRESENT THAT AND HOW DO WE DO IT AS OPPOSED, YOU KNOW, DOES THE LINK STAY IN THE SAME SPOT IN EVERY PAGE OR DO WE KIND OF CUSTOMIZE IT DEPENDING ON THE PAGE YOU'RE LOOKING AT? SURE.
AND SO HOW ARE YOU TARGETING WHAT PAGES YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT? SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UH, MS. VASIC HERE, SHE'S PROVIDED ME ALL THE BOARDS AND KIND OF WHAT DEPARTMENTS OWN THEM OR KIND OF ARE THE FACE OF THOSE BOARDS.
AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO PLACE AND, YOU KNOW, KINDA THE APPROPRIATE COMMUNICATION BACK.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP, LETA, YOU TOLD US SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, CONTACTING, UH, INDIVIDUALS WHO CAME TO AN INTERVIEW AND WEREN'T SELECTED.
BUT, UM, WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE INTERVIEW PROCESS? WHAT, I IMAGINE WE GET APPLICATIONS EVERY DAY AND JUST WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT PROCESS FOR THEM? OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE NOT SELECTED, THEY MAY JUST SIT IN THE BANK FOR, FOR A LONG TIME.
SO CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? RIGHT.
CURRENTLY OUR SYSTEM, THAT IS ONE THING WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS WITH THE NEW DESIGN IN THE NEW SYSTEM.
UH, CURRENTLY OUR SYSTEM DOES NOT, UM, HAVE THAT FEATURE THAT ALLOWS AN AUTOMATIC REPLY TO THEM.
SO IF THEY'RE NOT SELECTED, THE, UH, ONLY COMMUNICATION IS WHAT I JUST MENTIONED AT THIS TIME, AS WELL AS WHEN THEY FIRST INITIALLY APPLY THAT THEIR APPLICATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED.
AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, IF THEIR APPLICATION IS GOING TO BE OLDER THAN ONE YEAR OLD, WE ASK THEM TO REAPPLY.
BUT WE WILL INCORPORATE WITH A NEW SYSTEM EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, MORE OF A ENGAGEMENT TOOL SO THAT WE CAN KEEP 'EM ENGAGED IN CASE THEY DID NOT GET SELECTED FOR ONE BOARD, THEY CAN STILL APPLY FOR ANOTHER.
AND PERHAPS MAYBE EVEN WITH THE NEW SYSTEM, MOVE THAT APPLICATION FROM ONE TO THE NEXT BOARD THAT HAS VACANCIES.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EXPLORE WITH THE NEW SYSTEM.
AND, UM, AND FOR US AS WELL, LIKE SOMETIMES PEOPLE WHO MAY LIVE IN OUR DISTRICT MAY APPLY FOR SOMETHING AT LARGE, AND IF WE'RE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, WE'LL NEVER KNOW.
SO IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD, UM, IF OUR OFFICES ALSO HAD ACCESS TO THE POOL OF APPLICANTS IS, UM, AND, AND TELL ME THE TIMELINE FOR THE NEW SYSTEM AGAIN.
UH, THAT'S A I T S D QUESTION TO ANSWER.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE THE DESIGN FEATURES IN PLACE AND THE DOCUMENT IS COMPLETED, IT NOW NEEDS TO GO BEFORE THE IT GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, AND THAT'S MADE UP OF, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MARIA VILLA GOMEZ, UH, CRAIG HOPKINS, AND IS IT BEN GOEL? AND ONCE THEY, UH, REVIEW IT, THEY WILL APPROVE IT SO THAT WE CAN GO OUT FOR AN R F P.
BUT AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE, MATT, DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE? SHOULD WE LOOK AT THE RFP RIGHT NOW? I WOULD WAIT TO PROVIDE A TIMELINE UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THIS MEETING WITH IT GOVERNANCE, UM, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE BEING RESCHEDULED FOR SOME TIME BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH.
WE CAN GET THAT ITEM IN FRONT OF THEM AND HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
UM, IS THERE ANY INTEREST IN, UH, FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN REVIEWING THOSE CHARACTERISTICS IN THAT R F P BEFORE IT WERE TO BE ISSUED? OKAY.
WE CAN CERTAINLY GET YOU THE PROJECT, UH, DESIGN.
UH, SO THAT YOU CAN REVIEW AND ADD IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE MISSED MM-HMM.
UM, WELL, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF ITEMS AND THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE, UH, FOR NOW.
UM, WHEN WILL WE GET ANOTHER UPDATE FROM YOU, LETICIA, AS SOON AS IT GOVERNANCE, UM, APPROVES IT, BUT NOW WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE THAT DOCUMENT TO YOU FOR FEEDBACK BEFORE IT GOES TO IT GOVERNANCE.
SO, UH, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN UPDATE FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO YOU.
UM, WHICH WE ARE, WE GONNA MEET IN DECEMBER.
WE'RE KIND OF PACKED, UH, FOR THAT ONE.
AND WE MIGHT WANNA GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
SO THEN PERHAPS JANUARY, LET'S LY THINK, UH, JANUARY.
WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO YOU THEN.
WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE, UM, TO ITEM NUMBER MENTAL HEALTH ITEM
[3. 19-8023 Briefing and possible action on a Mental Health Systems Gap Analysis conducted by LadderLogik on behalf of the City of San Antonio and Bexar County. [Colleen M. Bridger, MPH, PhD, Assistant City Manager; Melody Woosley, Director, Human Services] (Part 2 of 2)]
NUMBER THREE.UM, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE REPORT.
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UM, WE'RE REVIEWING IT RIGHT NOW,I MEAN, YOU SYNTHESIZED IT FOR US AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO.
UM, BASED ON THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M HEARING FROM, FROM MY COLLEAGUES, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO GET AN OVERVIEW OF THE SORT OF THE CONTINUUM OF MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS AND SERVICES.
UM, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE ZEROING IN ON, ON WHAT THE GAP IS, BUT I FEEL, UM, LIKE IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE THAT CONTEXT.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION OR WHAT HAPPENS, UH, TO, TO VETERANS OR EVEN, I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE YOU'VE FOCUSED ON, UH, NON-CRISIS SITUATIONS, BUT THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ALSO A HUGE PART OF, OF WHAT WE DEAL WITH, UM, IN OUR INTERACTION WITH THE COUNTY, AT THE, WITH, WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TOO.
SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO SCHEDULE A FOLLOW UP, UM, DISCUSSION WHERE, WHERE WE REVIEW THAT, THAT WHOLE SPECTRUM? IT COULD BE A NICE LONG, UH, DISCUSSION AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL NEVER LEARN EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
IT, IT WOULD INFORM OUR WORK IN OTHER AREAS AS WELL.
UM, IN, IN ADDITION, I THINK THAT THE, UM, THAT THE DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY, I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR, FOR ACTION.
UM, ACTUALLY I'LL, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND.
IN MY QUESTION ON, UM, PAGE SIX OF THE REPORT, IT TALKS ABOUT WORKFORCE, UH, SHORTAGE.
AND SO I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT A WORKFORCE SHORTAGE AND PSYCHIATRISTS FOR YEARS NOW, LIKE SINCE I WAS WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT WE'RE DOING TO, UM, TO HELP THAT WORKFORCE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HELP ALLEVIATE THAT WORKFORCE SHORTAGE AS A CITY.
LIKE ARE WE WORKING WITH WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT? ARE WE WORKING WITH ANY INCENTIVES? UM, ARE WE WORKING WITH THE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES? LIKE HOW ARE WE RECRUITING PSYCHIATRISTS? SO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK, UH, INDIRECTLY, UM, OR WE DON'T DIRECTLY, UH, WE'RE NOT DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR IDENTIFYING, UH, THAT, THAT SPECIFIC RESOURCE, THAT REALLY MENTAL HEALTH AND THE, THE PROVISION OF SERVICES FOR MENTAL HEALTH IN THIS COMMUNITY IS REALLY THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
AND I HATE TO KIND OF TOSS IT TO MIKE OVER THERE, BUT, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING THROUGH THIS RECOMMENDATION IS, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A GAP, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THAT THAT IS A GAP.
AND WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY AT THIS POINT.
WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH, WITH CATHERINE.
CATHERINE CAN KIND OF HELP ME WITH THIS ONE.
BUT WE'LL WORK WITH IDENTIFYING, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT REALLY RELY? IS THAT SOLELY THE CITY? IF IT IS THE CITY, I THINK OUR CITY, OUR RESPONSE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT RESOURCES AT THE PRE-CRISIS CLINIC MM-HMM.
AND ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THAT WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE A BENEFICIAL IS BECAUSE THE A BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS TO PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES, UH, WITH THAT, WITH THE NEW TRANSITION OF THAT CONTRACT.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN ISSUE.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN IN ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS, UH, AND ALL OF OUR RESOURCES TO MAKE THAT MORE AVAILABLE.
SO, UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D, I'D LIKE TO ASK CATHERINE IF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THERE? SHE CAN HELP US, UH, WITH THAT? GOOD MORNING.
CATHERINE DILLARD GONZALEZ WITH LOWER LOGIC.
UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE ISSUE RELATED TO THE PSYCHIATRY ACCESS IS IT HAS TO DO WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT RATES.
SO BECAUSE MENTAL ILLNESS FROM A PRIVATE HEALTHCARE PERSPECTIVE IS TRADITIONALLY REIMBURSED AT A LOWER RATE, THEN YOU TRADITIONALLY ONLY HAVE PSYCHIATRISTS THAT WILL SEE CLIENTS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO PRIVATE PAY.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS CREATE ADDITIONAL COMPETITION SO THAT YOU'RE PAYING AND REIMBURSING PSYCHIATRISTS THAT WILL SERVE PUBLIC CLIENTS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT HEALTH INSURANCE CAPACITY.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I WAS ASKING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE OUT OF THIS STAKEHOLDER GROUP, IF WE SHOULD ENGAGE A STAKEHOLDER GROUP THAT SPECIFICALLY WORKS TO DEVELOP.
WE KNOW THIS IS A GROWING NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN HEARING IT FOR YEARS.
THE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH IT, THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE, THE TIME TO DO IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A WOR A GROUP
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THAT FOCUSES ON THIS.AND I DON'T KNOW, EVEN IF AT THAT POINT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UM, FIND MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, FUNDING SOURCES TO EXPLORE, UM, INCENTIVES FOR GETTING FOLKS LIKE THIS INTO OUR COMMUNITIES AS THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE HELPING MAYBE LIVING WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
UM, I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT INCENTIVE PROGRAMS FOR FIRST RESPONDERS.
IN MY OPINION, PSYCHIATRISTS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THAT AREA.
AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AHEAD TO SEE HOW WE SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT, THAT WE KNOW HAS BEEN MOUNTING AND JUST, WE KEEP SAYING THAT THERE'S A SHORTAGE, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING? RIGHT? AND SO, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S JUST THE CITY'S PROBLEM OR IT'S JUST THE COUNTY'S PROBLEM.
I THINK THAT IT TAKES A COLLABORATIVE AND IT TAKES WORKING TOGETHER WITH OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE FACING THE EXACT SAME SHORTAGE THAT, THAT WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY, RIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP WHEN, WHEN I SAW THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE.
UM, COUNCILWOMAN, DID YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW UPS? YES, GO AHEAD.
WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, SS A P D, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF TIMES THEY INTER, THEY INTERVENE WHEN THERE IS A FULL CRISIS.
BUT IF THERE IS A FAMILY THAT'S CALLING AHEAD OF TIME TO SAY THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON, UM, CAN THE POLICE ACTUALLY TAKE SOMEONE THAT IS NOT IN A FULL CRISIS TO THE PRE-CLINIC TO HAVE THEM SEEN PRIOR TO GOING INTO THAT FULL MODE? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE ADDRESSED AT THIS TIME, BUT CAN BE LOOKED AT? BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES JUST HAVING THAT PRESENCE COME TO THE HOME, EVEN IF IT'S DURING A WELFARE CHECK OF THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU KNOW, HAS P T S D BIPOLARISM SCHIZOPHRENIA, UM, THEY CAN ACTUALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TELL THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TAKING THEIR MEDS.
LET'S GET 'EM TO THE CLINIC AND GET THEM BACK ON THAT REGIMEN.
WE'RE TRYING TO BE MORE PROACTIVE.
I WILL SAY THAT, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO EMERGENCY DETAIN AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S DURING, DURING AN EMERGENCY.
SO IF THEY, IF THEY, IF, IF THEY FEEL THAT AND THEY DEEM THAT THAT PERSON IS A DANGER TO, TO THEMSELVES OR, OR OTHERS, THEN THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY.
NOW THEY DO HAVE, UH, WHAT WE CALL HIGH, UH, HIGH CALL LISTS.
SO IF THERE'S INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY MAKING CALLS THROUGH 9 1 1, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN A CRISIS, WE ARE DEFERRING THOSE TO OUR CASE MANAGERS, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS THOSE AND THEY CAN GET THOSE TWO PEOPLE, UH, TO THOSE RESOURCES LIKE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
SO THERE'S STILL A GAP IN THAT RESOURCE, RIGHT? SO IT'S STILL, WE DON'T HAVE A PRE-CRISIS CLINIC AT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT IS A, AN EXAMPLE OF WHY WE NEED THAT IN THIS COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT POPULATION.
AND I KNOW NAMI OFFERS A LOT OF CERTIFICATION SERVICES, UM, THROUGH THEIR PROGRAM AS WELL TO HELP AID IN SOME OF THE GAPS OF WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE PSYCHIATRIC, UM, PHYSICIANS IN PLACE.
ARE THERE ANY OF THOSE PROGRAMS OR THOSE CERTIFICATIONS THAT WILL BE COMING THROUGH THE CLINICS AS WELL TO HELP GET OTHER PEOPLE IN PLACE, MAYBE IN THE COMMUNITY, THROUGH THE CHURCHES, THROUGH, UM, OUR LOCAL, UH, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND OUR SCHOOL COUNSELORS THAT CAN ACTUALLY HELP ASSIST WHERE WE MAY NOT HAVE THE FULL BODY? I, I, I BELIEVE THAT THE CRISIS, UH, THE PRE-CRISIS CLINIC WILL BE THAT INTERVENER, RIGHT? SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE INTERVENER TO COMMUNITY-BASED PROGRAMMING SO THAT THAT CAN BE A RESOURCE FOR FOLKS THAT DON'T WANT TO CALL 9 1 1, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE ONLY THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY IN SOME, IN MOST CASES, THIS IS THE, THE CONDO.
AND WE HOPE THAT, UH, WHOEVER AS THIS COMES TO FRUITION, THAT THAT, THAT PLACE WILL BE KIND OF THE CONVENING BODY, RIGHT? SO IT CAN BE, UH, WORKING WITH, WITH SCHOOL COUNSELORS, WORKING WITH INDIVIDUALS, UH, NURSES IN, IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, LOCAL FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SEEING SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IN THEIR, IN THEIR PARISHES OR ACTUALLY IN THEIR CONGREGATIONS.
HOW DO WE MAKE THAT REFERRAL SOURCE? SO I SEE THAT AS A RESOURCE AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE THAT I HAVE IS AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO THE WORKFORCE, WILL THIS PRE-CLINIC BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE OFFERED TO COMPANIES UNDER THEIR EMPLOYEE? UM, WHAT IS IT THE EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE WITH THIS? BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE WORKFORCE WON'T TAKE THE TIME OFF, BUT IF THEY HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO AND SEE SOMEONE WITHIN THIS CLINIC, CAN THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THEN START MAYBE PITCHING TO, UM, OUR LARGER CORPORATIONS SUCH AS U SS A A TO SAY THAT WE OFFER THESE SERVICES AND NOW MAYBE THEY CAN KIND OF ASSIST US IN, IN SOME OF
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THE FUNDING OF ABSOLUTELY.I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, APPROACH IN TERMS OF OUR FUNDING STRATEGIES.
UH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BEFORE, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
SO, YOU TALKED ABOUT HAVING A CONSULTANT, UM, ASSIST WITH THIS PROCESS.
WILL IT BE LADDER LOGIC? AGAIN, WE'RE HOPING THAT IT IS.
WE, UH, WE THINK FOR CONTINUITY OF A BACKGROUND AND FOR, UH, EXPEDITING THE PROCESS, WE, WE WE'RE HOPING TO DO THAT.
WE HAVEN'T NEGOTIATED THAT AT THIS POINT.
UH, BUT WE DO HAVE THE FUNDING AVAILABLE, AVAILABLE TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT GOING TO COUNCIL OR FOR ACTION? UH, I THINK THAT, UH, THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE WOULD POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE DON'T, UH, UH, IT WOULD BE UNDER $50,000.
WE CAN DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY, UH, BRIEF THIS, THIS COMMITTEE ON, ON MOVING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN, UM, HOW WILL PATIENTS BE REFERRED TO THIS PARTICULAR CENTER? UH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I, I, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FOLKS ARE STABILIZED THROUGH THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS, WE FEEL THAT THAT GROUP OF, OR THAT POPULATION OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS WILL, THIS WILL BE A, BECOME A RESOURCE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
I, I, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, UH, WELL, YOU HAVE A DOCTOR, YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT, IT'S A CERTAIN AGENCY, BUT YOU NEED MORE, YOU NEED THIS CONSTANT, UH, SERVICE INTERVENTION.
AND WE FEEL THAT THOSE, THAT'S GONNA BE, ONCE WE'RE THERE, I THINK ONCE, ONCE IT'S BUILT, IT'S GONNA BE LIKE THEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO ASK FOR HELP.
PEOPLE ARE JUST GONNA BE COMING, KNOCKING ON THE DOORS.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA, THE SENSE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE AFTER, RIGHT? AND WE, WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON PREVENTATIVE AS WELL.
SO THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO.
WE'RE GONNA WANT TO HAVE TO DO SOME EDUCATION AND OUTREACH TOO.
AND THOSE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY NOT KNOW THAT THEY'RE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES.
AND THAT'S THE POPULATION THAT WE REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS.
WE WANT TO TAKE THIS CRISIS, ALL THIS CRISIS THAT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT, AND THESE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CALLS THAT S A P D AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE, ARE ADDRESSING AND REALLY TRY TO TRY TO SHIFT THAT BALANCE, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE NOT COMING FROM CRISIS, BUT THEY'RE COMING BEFORE THEY GET INTO THE CRISIS.
SO WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE THAT, THAT RESOURCE AND THAT CONNECTION.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE THROUGH STRIKE.
I MEAN, I THINK STRIKE'S GONNA REALLY HELP US WITH THAT COORDINATING PIECE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY DO FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING, NOT SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS, BUT THEY'RE JUST, UH, GETTING DISCHARGED OR GOING TO FROM HOSPITAL TO HOSPITAL.
SO, UH, SO YES, WE, WE HOPE TO DO THAT AND WE HOPE TO DO A REALLY GOOD JOB IN THE PREVENTATIVE PIECE.
UM, SO IS THIS, DO YOU SEE THIS AS, UH, DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT IN PD RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE I MEAN, 1600 EMERGENCY DETENTIONS A A MONTH, UH, YOU KNOW, A HANDFUL OF THEM ARE, ARE ABLE TO BE HANDLED BY THEM, AND THEY'RE DIRECTED INTO TREATMENT.
UM, BUT I, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME, SOME LINK BETWEEN THE TWO.
IT'S NOT A REPLACEMENT, IT'S DEFINITELY A COMPLIMENT.
WE HAVE TO, I MEAN, THE, THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT IS OUR FIRST RESPONSE, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND, AND I THINK THROUGH THEIR, UM, DATA, RIGHT? THEY HAD, THEY KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS, THEY, THEY HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM.
WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO BOTH, UH, THROUGH COORDINATING WITH THAT GROUP.
SO THEY'RE GONNA TELL US, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON IN PREVENTION, BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING, WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE CALLS FROM THEM.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A CRISIS WITH THEM YET.
AND THEN THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE HAD CRISIS.
THEY'RE CONSTANTLY IN CRISIS, AND THEY NEED THAT, THAT STEP, THAT THAT INTERVENTION BEFORE THEY GO SIX MONTHS WITHOUT IT.
RIGHT? SO I THINK THERE'S A TIMING AND A CONTINUITY OF CARE THAT WE'RE MISSING WHERE PEOPLE STAY MULTIPLE MONTHS WITHOUT, WITHOUT TALKING OR SEEING ANYONE.
AND THEN I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE MEDIC, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE CLINIC AND PSYCH PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES, BUT ALSO THE MEDIC MEDICATION MANAGEMENT.
PEOPLE FALL INTO CRISIS A LOT OF TIMES BECAUSE THEY EITHER DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR MEDICATIONS OR THEY JUST WON'T TAKE THEM.
SO, UH, I, I SEE A LOT OF NODS OVER HERE.
SO I THINK I'M SAYING THE RIGHT THINGS.
UM, WELL, I THINK WE'LL, UH, GO AHEAD AND, OH, SORRY, ONE LAST QUESTION WAS, HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS SERVICE INTEGRATING WITH OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INITIATIVES? SO, WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE, UH, TAKE THE APPROACH OF A TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE, YOU KNOW, APPROACH.
UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT QUITE FLESHED OUT YET, BUT WE KNOW IT'S AN INTEGRAL PIECE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, SO DEFINITELY I THINK THERE'S SOME, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT, UH, THAT RESULT, UH, OR THE OUTCOME SOMETIMES IS NEGATIVE AND, AND PEOPLE BECOME VIOLENT.
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UH, SO WE HOPE THAT THIS WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR NUMBERS IN OUR WORK IN THAT, IN THAT ARENA AS WELL.I DON'T HAVE SPECIFICS ON EXACTLY HOW, BUT WE KNOW THEY'RE DEFINITELY CORRELATED, AND THERE'LL DEFINITELY BE, UH, INTERACTION BETWEEN BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, SO, UH, I THINK, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ACTION TO, UH, SUPPORT, UH, CREATION OF A PRE-CRISIS CENTER, UM, AND TO COORDINATE WITH THE COUNTY TO DEVELOP A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND IDENTIFY FUNDING ALTERNATIVES.
UM, SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE FOR THAT TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE ONCE WE DO HAVE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND THE FUNDING ALTERNATIVE.
WHATEVER IT WAS I SAID THEY SAID, MOTION TO APPROVE
ANY OPPOSED? NO MOTION PASSES.
AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS, UM, THE
[5. 19-8541 An update and a request for action on the SA Climate Ready Advisory Committees selection process and timeline. [Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Doug Melnick, Director, Office of Sustainability]]
SAN ANTONIO CLIMATE READY ADVISORY COMMITTEE SELECTION PROCESS AND TIMELINE.UM, MADAM CHAIR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF YOU ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, IN TERMS OF ESTABLISHING THESE TWO IMPORTANT COMMITTEES.
UM, AND WE'D BE LOOKING FOR SOME POTENTIAL ACTION, UM, PRIOR TO, UM, UNDERTAKING OUR NEXT STEPS.
SO, UM, CLIMATE PLAN GOT PASSED.
UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, UH, WORK ONGOING AS WE SPEAK.
BUT, UH, THE CRITICAL NEXT STEP IS, IS DEVELOPING THAT GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE, UH, AS WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE PAST.
AND SO THE, THE FIRST THING THAT WE HAVE DONE IS, IS, IS REALLY TRY TO COME UP WITH WHAT THOSE GUIDING PRINCIPLES ARE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE COMMITTEES.
UM, AND ONE IS, IS REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING, UH, FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, PEOPLE IN SPECIFIC ELEMENTS OF THE, OF THE PLAN, UH, ON THE MITIGATION AND ADAPTATION SIDE, WHO CAN HELP US, UM, PRIORITIZE, UM, INNOVATE AND, AND, AND IMPLEMENTS.
UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH OTHER PERSPECTIVES, UM, UH, VERY BROADLY REPRESENTING THE, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE REALLY INTERESTED IN, IN COLLABORATING TO BRING ABOUT, UM, SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES.
UH, THIS ISN'T JUST A PLAN, UH, UNLESS IT MAKES THINGS, UM, BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO, UM, ARE, ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN, IN THAT.
UM, WE'RE ALSO REALLY GOING TO MAKE VERY CLEAR WHERE EQUITY STANDS IN THIS.
UM, AND, AND SO ONE OF THE, THE, THE OTHER GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS REALLY SAYING, LOOK, THIS IS, THIS IS A, A MEMBERSHIP IS OPEN TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE OR WORK IN, IN, IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT WE WANT IT TO BE AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO WE BASICALLY, UM, IDENTIFY VARIOUS GROUPS, UH, THAT WE REALLY WANNA ENCOURAGE TO, UM, APPLY AND, AND PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS.
SO I'LL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE TWO COMMITTEES.
UM, THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, IS REALLY, THAT IS A, THE, THE GROUP'S MISSION IS TO ADVISE, UH, CITY STAFF AND, AND CITY COUNCIL ON ADVANCING AND EQUITY CENTERED APPROACH TO IMPLEMENTING THE CLIMATE PLAN, AS WELL AS OTHER LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY PLANS, SUCH AS THE SA TOMORROW SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, KEY ROLES, UM, AGAIN, PROVIDING EXPERTISE, DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES, UM, REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, UH, NOT JUST THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL INTERESTS, MAKING SURE THE CONVERSATION CENTERED ON EQUITY.
THE OTHER THING WE WANNA MAKE, MAKE VERY CLEAR IS EQUITY ISN'T JUST SOMETHING FOR THE EQUITY COMMITTEE.
UH, IT, IT IS FOR EVERYONE TO, UM, TO BE INVOLVED WITH, UH, KEEP CURRENT OF THE LATEST SCIENTIFIC, UM, INFORMATION AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE, UM, EQUITY, UH, AND CLIMATE JUSTICE, DELIVER ANNUAL REPORTS, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY AND CITY COUNCIL, AND REALLY ASSISTING WITH ENGAGEMENTS, UM, UH, THROUGH THEIR NETWORKS AS WELL AS, UM, WHEN POSSIBLE AND, AND WHEN ABLE TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY.
SO, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THIS COMMITTEE, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, A COMMITTEE OVERALL OF 21 INDIVIDUALS, UM, 15 AT LARGE, APPOINTED BY COUNCIL WITH, UH, INPUT AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CITY STAFF, UH, AS WELL AS SIX ORGANIZATIONAL MEMBERS.
UM, SELECTIONS WILL BASED BE BASED UPON EXPERTISE OR PERSPECTIVE.
AND THE KEY TO TO THIS IS, YOU CAN SEE IN THE MIDDLE CATEGORY, WE, WE IDENTIFIED, UM, POTENTIAL AREAS OF EXPERTISE OR PERSPECTIVE THAT WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GET ONE PERSON FOR EACH ONE OF THESE.
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MAY BE, UM, INDIVIDUALS WHO COVER MULTIPLE, UM, PERSPECTIVES, UM, OR EXPERTISE.I THINK THE GOAL IS WHEN WE START REVIEWING ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS, REALLY LOOKING FOR THE MOST ROBUST CANDIDATES AND HAVE A REALLY, UM, DIVERSE AND, AND, UH, EXPERTISE DRIVEN SLATE OF CANDIDATES.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ON THE ORGANIZATIONAL SIDE, UM, LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR ORGANIZATIONAL PARTNERS, UH, WE'D ALSO, UM, HAVE ADDED THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR OF THE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO CROSS REPRESENT.
UM, AND SO WE'LL, UM, DO THAT VICE VERSA, WHERE THE, UM, CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COMMITTEE WOULD ALSO SERVE ON THE EQUITY COMMITTEE.
SO, IF WE MOVE OVER TO THE CLIMATE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, THEIR GOAL IS REALLY TO FOCUS ON, UM, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS CLA UH, CAP WITH A EQUITY CENTERED APPROACH, UH, AND REALLY FOCUSING ON EQUITABLE OUTCOMES.
UM, VERY SIMILAR CHARGE TO THE, TO THE OTHER, UM, OTHER COMMITTEE, UH, WHERE LEVERAGING EXISTING NETWORKS, BRINGING THEIR EXPERTISE, BRINGING THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
UM, BUT SOME DIFFERENCES ARE REALLY WORKING WITH CITY STAFF, UM, AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS ARE ON IDENTIFYING HOW DO WE IDENTIFY, UM, UH, TRACK AND REPORT CLIMATE EQUITY METRICS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING PROGRESS ON THE EQUITY SIDE OF IMPLEMENTING THE CLIMATE PLAN? AND ALSO, UM, REALLY WORKING WITH US TO ENSURE THAT THE BROADER COMMUNITY, UM, PARTICULARLY, UM, MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, ARE INVOLVED IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PLAN.
I ALSO WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE, UH, OFFICE OF EQUITY ON THIS INFORMATION.
UM, WE'RE PROPOSING 11 REPRESENTATIVES, UH, KEY STAKEHOLDERS REPRESENTING, UM, LOW-INCOME POPULATIONS, COMMUNITIES OF CO COLOR, AND MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS.
AGAIN, UM, APPROVED BY COUNCIL WITH, UH, INPUT AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CITY STAFF.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE CATEGORIES THAT WERE, THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.
I'VE ALSO, UM, BEEN REACHING OUT TO SOME OF OUR, UM, EJ COMMUNITY MEMBERS, JUST TO FIND OUT WHO'S MISSING.
UH, AND SO I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AS WELL AS WHAT GROUPS DO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, ARE OUTREACHING TO, AND MAKING SURE HAVE A VOICE ON OUR, UM, COMMITTEE, UH, COMMITTEE ONCE ESTABLISHED.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO WANNA MAKE VERY CLEAR IS WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS GOING INTO THIS.
UH, WE ARE PROPOSING QUARTERLY, TWO HOUR LONG MEETINGS, UM, AS, AS A STARTING POINT.
WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A JOINT, UM, ANNUAL, UM, RETREAT BETWEEN THE TWO COMMITTEES.
UH, I, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THESE TWO COMMITTEES AREN'T JUST SILOED.
SO, UM, HAVING THEM GET TOGETHER ONCE A YEAR FOR A FACILITATED, UM, MEETING TO REALLY DISCUSS HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE ENSURE SUCCESS.
UH, WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY ABOUT PROVIDING, UM, SOME EQUITY FACILITY FACILITATE, UM, FACILITATED EQUITY TRAINING, UM, ON A REGULAR BASIS, MAYBE ONCE A YEAR, JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF, OF, OF THE IMPORTANCE OF EQUITY AND HOW IT FITS IN TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS CLIMATE PLAN.
AND SIMPLY MAKING SURE THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE PREPARED FOR THESE MEETINGS, UM, READY TO PARTICIPATE, LET US KNOW IF CONFLICTS, UM, ASSIST WITH ENGAGEMENT AND AGAIN, WORK TOWARDS SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES.
SO HERE'S REALLY THE BIG, UM, PIECE WE WANTED TO TALK TO YOU, UH, IS IN TERMS OF, UH, SELECTION PROCESS AND TIMELINE.
UH, WE'RE HERE IN NOVEMBER, UM, DISCUSSING WITH YOU, UM, THE, THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO, TO WORKING WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT THAT APPLICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT RESONATES WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND THAT ANYBODY WHO'S APPLYING UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND IT'S AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.
UM, ONE POSSIBILITY GOING FORWARD WOULD BE FOR, UM, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A A A CHECK SUBCOMMITTEE TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF ON, UM, VETTING APPLICATIONS AS THEY COME THROUGH.
SO, UM, I THINK THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE, UM, HAVING A, A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS COMMITTEE TO, UM, UH, EMPOWER STAFF TO GO FORWARD AND, UM, BRING TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL, UM, ON DECEMBER 12TH, THEORETICALLY, UM, AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THESE TWO COMMITTEES.
UH, ONCE THAT HAPPENS, UH, THE NEXT, THAT AFTERNOON OR THE NEXT DAY, WE WOULD ISSUE OUR CALL FOR APPLICATIONS, UH, REALLY PUSH TO GET THE WORD OUT.
AND I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE TALKING ABOUT SOME PO, UM, POSSIBILITIES, HOW WE WOULD DO THAT, UH, IN JANUARY.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CITY STAFF, UM, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND OFFICE OF EQUITY, UM, WOULD REVIEW, UH, THESE APPLICATIONS, UM, REALLY MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE VERY REPRESENTATIVE AND, AND GETTING US THE, THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WE REALLY NEED.
UM, AND WORKING WITH, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY, UM, IF THERE'S A SUBCOMMITTEE CREATED.
AND THEN FEBRUARY COMING BACK TO THE FULL, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE MEETING, AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE COULD PRESENT
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THE FULL SLATE FOR DISCUSSION, UM, AND HOPEFULLY APPROVAL IF, IF CHECK, UM, IS, IS OKAY WITH IT, THE FULL COMMITTEE AT THE SAME TIME, UH, WE'LL BE IN THE PROCESS OF PROCURING, UM, SOME EXPERTISE, UH, AROUND FACILITATION.UH, SO WE CAN REALLY SET THE STAGE FOR THE FIRST COUPLE MEETINGS, UH, WITH THESE ADVISORY COMMITTEES IN TERMS OF GROUND RULES, EXPECTATIONS, AND PROCESS GOING FORWARD.
UM, SO WE, WE DON'T RUN INTO ANY, UM, MISUNDERSTANDINGS OR MISSTEPS AS WE GET OUTTA THE GATE.
AND THEN IF WE CAN GET FULL COUNCIL APPROVAL IN FEBRUARY, 2020, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO LAUNCH THE FIRST QUARTERLY MEETING IN, IN MARCH OF 2020.
SO, IN TERMS OF OUTREACH, AND WE KNOW THIS IS REALLY THE KEY PART, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH SIMPLY TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATIONS, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR IN TERMS OF EXPECTATIONS AND, AND WHAT THAT TIME COMMITMENT IS.
UM, AS, AS WE HEARD, UH, THAT THE MATERIALS WILL BE IN SPANISH, WORKING THROUGH LOCAL MEDIA, UH, TO MAKE SURE WE GET AS MUCH, UM, UH, AIRTIME AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY.
BUT REALLY, THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING THE TARGETED OUTREACH, UM, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, CHAMBERS, UH, UNIVERSITIES, AND OTHER AREAS OF EXPERTISE, UH, THAT WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAPPING INTO, UM, UH, EQUITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEN OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS.
I, I THINK, UM, WE DON'T WANNA, LET'S LEAVE IT THE CHANCE THAT SOMEBODY HAPPENS UPON THE OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK WE WANNA BE AS PROACTIVE AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING, WE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
UM, WE'VE, UM, ARE ARE PROPOSING OFFICE, UH, OFF OFFERING STAFF HOURS THAT WE CAN PROMOTE, THAT WE WOULD HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN, AND WE CAN ACTUALLY JUST ASSIST THEM WITH GETTING THE APPLICATION, UM, UH, FILLED OUT AND, UM, UH, INPUT INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND SO THAT'S OUR, OUR HIGH LEVEL, HIGH LEVEL, UM, UH, PROCESS GOING FORWARD.
AND, UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, IF THE COMMITTEE AGREES TO APPROVE THE COMMITTEE'S CREATION STRUCTURE AND TIMELINE AS PROPOSED BY STAFF AND FORWARD FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, MEMORIALIZING THIS INTO AN ORDINANCE FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO DOUG, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS THE ONE THAT ASKS YOU ALL, ALL THE QUESTIONS, RIGHT? UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE THAT ARE ACTUALLY GONNA BE CONSIDERED FOR, UM, ANY OF THE COMMITTEES OR THE ORGANIZATIONAL MEMBERS.
AND SO I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, SUCH AS, UM, WITH SOLID WASTE OR SAHA, OR WITH SABOR OR SAN ANTONIO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, VALERO, U S A A, UM, MAYBE SOUTHWEST TEXAS RESEARCH INSTITUTE.
ARE THERE BEING LOOKED AT TO HELP WITH THIS ORGANIZATION? YES.
THE, THE CATEGORIES THAT I SHOWED ON SLIDE FOUR ARE JUST HIGH LEVEL CATEGORIES.
UM, ALL OF THOSE GROUPS WE'D CONSIDER TO REACH OUT TO DIRECTLY, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF, OF THE APPLICATION AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO, TO APPLY.
AND THEN ON THE, UH, COMMITTEE SIDE, AS FAR AS WITH THE FAITH-BASED OUTREACH AND THE CHURCHES, UM, ARE YOU PLANNING ON ANY STRATEGIES FOR SCHOOL NURSES, ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS WELL? UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION, AND I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
I THINK RIGHT NOW WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CASTING AS WIDE ANNETTE AS POSSIBLE.
SO ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'LL, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE AND, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH.
AND THEN AS FAR AS WITH THE CONSULTANT, WOULD THAT BE LOOKING AT THE BYLAWS AS PART OF THIS CONSULT THAT THEY'LL BE DOING? CORRECT.
WE WOULD LOOK FOR, UM, UH, FACILITATION, UM, EXPERT WHO CAN HELP, UM, WORK WITH THE GROUPS ON DEVELOPING THE BYLAWS, RULES OF ENGAGEMENTS, UM, UH, GOVERNANCE STYLE, HOW DECISION, HOW DECISION MAKING IS GOING TO TO OCCUR.
SO I THINK HAVING AN EXPERT WHO CAN ACTUALLY FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION, UM, WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING STAFF TRYING TO, TO MANAGE THAT.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE ANNUAL REPORT, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO A SEMI-ANNUAL REPORT ON THE COMMITTEES INSTEAD OF JUST ONE ANNUAL REPORT? YEP, ABSOLUTELY.
MAYBE JUST A SUMMARY FOR MID-YEAR AND THEN A FULL REPORT BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS, DOUG.
UM, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, ADRIANA GARCIA.
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YOU, DOUG, FOR THAT.ON PAGE FOUR, THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE MISSING, AND I GUESS THAT IT COULD BE IN THERE, UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT IT, WAS EDUCATIONAL, UH, INSTITUTION.
I, I'M JUST ASSUMING THAT IT WOULD COME WITH MAYBE ONE OF THESE, BUT I JUST THOUGHT THAT I, WE COULD BE SPECIFIC ABOUT ADDING EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS ON THERE.
AND THEN, THANK YOU, BY THE WAY, FOR ADDING THE FOOD SYSTEMS, UM, CATEGORY ON THERE.
I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY IMPORTANT.
UM, ON PAGE SIX, WE HAVE THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE CATEGORIES.
I NOTICED THAT THERE WASN'T A CATEGORY SPECIFIC TO, UM, EDUCATION AGAIN, OR BUSINESS.
UH, NOW I FIGURED THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE COVERING YOUTH, IT MIGHT INCLUDE BUSINESS, OR IF WE'RE COVERING, WELL, NO.
SO, SO WE'RE MISSING BUSINESS FOR SURE.
UH, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A, A REASON OR IF THAT WAS JUST KIND OF BY, BY MISTAKE, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE MM-HMM.
AND I KNOW THAT MARTIN IS HERE FROM THE CHAMBER TODAY.
I THINK HE'S PROBABLY LOOKING FOR REPRESENTATION AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MARTIN.
I FIGURED YOU WERE HERE FOR THIS ITEM.
UM, SO THAT THE, SO THOSE ARE THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT ONE.
AND THEN ON PAGE SEVEN, UH, WILL WE BE MOVING MEETINGS AROUND? AND, AND, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM, FROM MY RESIDENTS ABOUT PARTICIPATING IN SOME OF THESE COMMITTEES.
AND SO, UM, AND THEN SPEAKING ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT DO PARTICIPATE, THEN THEY SAY, WELL, WE GET TOGETHER AND WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED, AND PEOPLE DON'T CALL AND WE DON'T MAKE QUORUM.
OR THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL APPOINTEES THAT DON'T SHOW UP.
AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ACTIVE ABOUT, SPECIFICALLY, IF WE'RE ENGAGING FOLKS IN QUARTERLY, TWO HOUR LONG MEETINGS THAT WERE PRUDENT WITH THEIR SCHEDULES AND THAT THEY DON'T ALL HAPPEN AT BREAKFAST, OR THEY DON'T ALL HAPPEN AT LUNCH, OR THEY DON'T ALL HAPPEN IN THE EVENING.
MAYBE THAT WE CAN OFFER SOME FLEXIBILITY ALSO FOR, UM, TELECOMMUTING.
SO CAN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO, TO THAT SORT OF THING.
ANYWAY, JUST TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, BECAUSE JUST FROM LOOKING AT THIS QUARTERLY, TWO HOUR LONG MEETINGS ALREADY KIND OF SEEM LIKE, OH MY GOSH, MY, MY COMMITMENT.
I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET AWAY FROM WORK, UM, FOR TWO HOURS.
AND THEN THE DRIVE TIME, SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A THREE HOUR, UM, WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S STILL UNDER CONSIDERATION? ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK, UM, AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD DONE, UM, WAS REVIEWED THE REPORT FROM THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION OF OFFICE OF EQUITY THAT OUTLINED VERY CLEARLY BARRIERS AND CHALLENGES AND, AND SO TIME COMMITMENT, LOCATION.
I, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY OF ADDRESSING AND PROVIDING CHILDCARE, TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS.
SO I THINK WE, WE REALLY WANNA DO THE BEST WE CAN TO BREAK DOWN AS MANY OF THOSE BARRIERS AS POSSIBLE.
NOW, UM, TO COUNCILWOMAN, UH, SULLIVAN'S POINT, WE, WE WILL BE KIND OF BRIEFED, I, I AM ASSUMING IN THIS COMMITTEE, IS THIS WHERE, WHERE WE KIND OF GET BRIEFED OUT BEFORE THE ANNUAL REPORT TO MM-HMM.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKED, UM, SO THAT WE COULD STILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TIMEFRAME.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, UM, A, A PLAN OF ACTION.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
UM, ALSO IN, IN THE, IN THE MEETING BEFORE WE HAVE ADDRESSED SEVERAL OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAD, UM, UH, BEEN CONCERNED WITH.
MADAM CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE A CLARIFICATION? CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR, I'M SORRY.
WAS THAT FOR THE EQUITY COMMITTEE OR FOR THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE? I THINK IT SHOULD BE FOR BOTH.
AND SO LET ME, LET'S, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE IT ON THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY.
OH, WE DO HAVE IT ON TECHNICAL, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I THINK THE KEY WILL BE FINDING THE RIGHT VOICE, UM, FOR THAT, THAT COMMITTEE AGREED.
SO, BUT LET'S NOT, LET'S MAKE SURE WE DON'T LEAVE THEM OUT.
AND THEN I, I WAS GONNA JUST ECHO YOUR THOUGHTS.
I DO THINK THAT, UH, WE DO WANNA WORK THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE, UH, FIRST AND THEN MAYBE TOGETHER WE CAN DECIDE WHEN WE TAKE IT TO THE FULL COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, THOSE REPORTS.
BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMITTEE WAS DESIGNED FOR, SO THAT WE COULD WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS OUR THOUGHT.
UH, I KNOW THAT THIS TOOK A LOT OF THINKING AND RETHINKING ABOUT HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU COMPOSE THE BREADTH THAT YOU NEED AND THE, UH, NOT JUST THAT YOU NEED, BUT THAT THE COVERAGE THAT WE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL AND PEACEFUL IMPLEMENTATION OF, OF THE CAP? UM, SO I
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JUST A, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.AND I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS IN PREVIOUS COMMITTEES, BUT I, I DO WANNA TELL YOU, I DIDN'T REALLY SEE THIS UNTIL THE END OF LAST WEEK, SO I DIDN'T HAVE TOO MUCH TIME TO, TO DIGEST.
UM, I DID GET SOMEONE CONTACTING ME THIS MORNING SAYING, HEY, I JUST SAW THIS ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK WE JUST, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE ACTUALLY APPOINT, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF FLEXIBILITY, AND OF COURSE, THAT'LL COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE ABSOLUTELY.
UM, ONE THING IS WHICH COMMITTEE WILL OVERSEE COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH? I, I WOULD SEE ONE, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ENVISIONED WAS FOR, WHOOPS, FOR, UM, AN AREA, AREA OF EXPERTISE THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
HAVING ON THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD BE SOMEBODY WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT EXPERIENCE.
UM, BUT QUITE FRANKLY, SO THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE COMMITTEE I WOULD CHOOSE FIRST.
SO I'M JUST GONNA THROW THIS OUT THERE AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS BEFORE WE COME BACK.
BUT, UM, AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GETTING THIS TO YOU SOONER, BUT I, I THINK I HAD MENTIONED IT A FEW MONTHS AGO, IS I, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A GROUP THAT IS, UH, FULL OF EXPERTS OR, OR CONTACTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S REALLY GOT, UH, TIES TO, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW DO I REACH OUT TO THE FAITH COMMUNITY? HOW DO I REACH OUT HERE? BECAUSE THESE EXPERTS ARE HOW TO GET SOME THINGS DONE, OR HOW THINGS ARE GONNA IMPACT, BUT HOW DO WE ACTUALLY GET THE WORD OUT? I THINK, I THINK THAT DID MAY MERIT ITS OWN GROUP.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SAY IS, UM, THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT WRITING THE ORDINANCES, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE SUBCOMMITTEES.
AND SO THEY CAN CREATE A COMMUNICATION FOCUSED SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, AS LONG AS THERE'S ONE OR TWO MEMBERS TAKE THAT ON FROM THE ACTUAL GROUP, AND THEN THEY CAN BRING ON OTHER EXPERTS, ADDITIONAL MEMBERS.
UM, SO IF WE COULD, UH, PUT THAT, JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S PART OF THE CHARGE.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT, I MEAN, THE SUCCESS OF THIS CAP WILL ALSO DEPEND ON HOW EFFECTIVE WE ARE AT COMMUNICATING WITH DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN BRING IN EXPERTS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS EXPERT COMMUNICATORS AT, YOU KNOW, OR IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHO TO, WHO TO TALK TO, TO MM-HMM.
IT, UH, MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER ON YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE, THERE'S SOMEONE IN BETWEEN, RIGHT.
FACILIT, UM, THE INPUT AND THEN WHERE THE WORK IS ACTUALLY GOING.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE ALWAYS DEFEND YOUR CASE, BUT YOU'RE MM-HMM.
SO I VERY GLAD TO SEE THAT ON THERE.
UM, WILL THAT BE GOING TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL OR HEAR FOR APPROVAL? DO WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT? IT'LL BE A, IT WOULDN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL WHERE WE'D NEED TO GET COUNCIL APPROVAL, BUT I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY, WE'D WANNA BRIEF THIS COMMITTEE AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE THINKING GOING FORWARD.
WE'LL JUST BRING IT TO THIS COMMITTEE SINCE IT DOESN'T REQUIRE COUNCIL ELECTION.
MAYBE WHEN WE GET THE, UM, THE LIST OF FOLKS THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE MM-HMM.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO, UH, COUNCILMAN TALK ABOUT THE TIME COMMITMENT AND HOW THINGS LIKE THAT CAN BE, UH, CAN BE BURDENSOME.
I'M, I'M ACTUALLY GLAD TO SEE THIS IS ONLY QUARTERLY, AND THAT, THAT DOES MEAN THAT THE PRESSURE TO GET SOMETHING DONE AT THOSE MEETINGS AND THE PREPARATION IS GONNA NEED TO BE VERY INTENSE.
UM, BUT I THINK QUARTERLY'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN MONTHLY, LIKE, SOME OF OUR OTHER
UM, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WAS, UM, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE MUCH MORE FOCUSED THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THESE THREE ITEMS. UM, AND THEN MAYBE, UM, AT, YOU KNOW, AT THE FIRST OR LAST QUARTERLY MEETING WOULD BE MORE OF A VISIONING FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD, WE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE MUCH MORE FOCUSED AND MUCH MORE, UM, UH, UM, RESPECTFUL OF PEOPLE'S TIMES AND, AND, AND TIME AND, AND EFFORT.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ PUT FORWARD A C C R ON PROVIDING CHILDCARE AT, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
WE, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE REVIEWED THAT IN GOVERNANCE YET.
UM, I ACTUALLY WOULDN'T WANNA WAIT TO REVIEW THAT RECOMMENDATION AND GOVERNANCE FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, COMMITTEE IF WE THINK THAT MAY BE AN IMPEDIMENT TO PARTICIPATION.
SO, UH, WE WERE GONNA REACH OUT TO SEE OTHER PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY, UM, LEVERAGE.
UH, BUT I THINK A LOT OF IT WILL COME DOWN TO, TO RESOURCES AND PEOPLE'S WILLINGNESS TO, TO, TO ASSIST US.
BUT I THINK IT'S, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, TO OFFER THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.
SO, UM, WE EXPECT THAT YOU'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT WHEN YOU COME BACK.
SO IS THERE, UH, THERE'S A MOTION THAT OR STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT WE APPROVE THE COMMITTEE
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CREATION STRUCTURE AND TIMELINE AS PROPOSED BY STAFF AND FORWARD FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.IS THERE A MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE? OH, DO YOU HAVE FURTHER COMMENTS WITH, WITH THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES OR WITH THE ADDITIONS OR, UM, OR DO WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST MAKE THAT, THAT.
WELL, WHY DON'T WE STATE THOSE.
WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND STATE THOSE.
TO THE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, WHEN ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE PUT THEM ON THE LIST OF FOLKS THAT WERE LOOKING FOR? AND DOES MY UNDERSTANDING FROM, FROM TALKING TO YOU EARLIER IS WE HAVE MORE THAN, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY BE LOOKING FOR 15 PEOPLE, WE HAVE MORE THAN 15 CATEGORIES.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET AS MANY OF THOSE AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT.
UM, THOSE ARE GENERAL AREAS OF EXPERTISE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, IDEALLY WE'D HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO MEET MULTIPLE, UM, CATEGORIES, BUT IT'S JUST PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE, UM, FOR, FOR COUNSEL AS FAR AS WHERE SOMEBODY'S, WHAT EXPERTISE THEY'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE.
AND, UH, WITH CONSIDERATION FOR CHILDCARE? YES, MA'AM.
[6. 19-7782 A briefing and overview on the City’s new Municipal Setting Designation (MSD) Program. [Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Razi Hosseini, Interim Director, Transportation & Capital Improvements]]
OUR NEXT AND FINAL ITEM, UM, NEFI GARZA, UH, GO AHEAD.I KNOW, UM, MY PRESENT, MY PRESENTATION STANDS BETWEEN YOU AND LUNCH, SO I'LL, UH, I'LL MAKE SURE AND, UH, AND GO THROUGH IT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO TODAY I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, LEMME GET BACK.
UH, I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT A PROGRAM OR A, UM, A, A TOOL THAT WE HAVE KNOWN AS THE MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION OR M S D.
AND, UH, TODAY I WANT TO BE ABLE TO, ONE, GO OVER, DO SOME BACKGROUND, EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS.
UH, AND PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS JUST SHOWING YOU SOME EXAMPLES.
THEN TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT TOOL.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY WHAT THAT M S D UH, PROCESS IS.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I, UH, PRESENT THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF APPLICANTS.
IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WE WILL HAVE, UH, THESE APPLICANTS MOVE FORWARD, UH, TO THIS COMMITTEE.
SO, FIRST OF ALL, M S D STANDS FOR MUNICIPAL UH, SETTING DESIGNATION.
THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WAS CREATED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS IN SEPTEMBER 20, UH, 2 0 0 3, AND THEN ULTIMATELY RECEIVED APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL IN, UH, APRIL, 2016.
THIS PROGRAM ADDRESSES EXISTING GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION BENEATH REDEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS A TOOL, LIKE I SAID, FOR REDEVELOPMENT, BUT IT REQUIRES THE CITY.
AND, AND WHILE IT'S ADMINISTRATED BY THE, UH, TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY OR THE T C E Q, IT DOES REQUIRE CITY COUNCIL TO PASS A LOCATION SPECIFIC ORDINANCE FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL SITE.
THE, THIS DESIGNATION ENCOMPASSES THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY, NOT ALL OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UH, AND THE AREAS THAT ARE EXCLUDED HAPPENS TO BE THE AREAS OVER THE, UH, AQUIFER, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THAT IS AVAILABLE, UH, TO DO.
AND LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS.
SO, UM, CURRENTLY WHEN THERE ARE OLD FACILITIES OR BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE, CONSTRUCTED AT A TIME THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS MAY HAVE HAD SOME TYPE OF INDUSTRY THAT POTENTIALLY CONTAMINATED BOTH SOIL AND, AND, AND WATER.
IN THE CASE OF SOIL, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO REDEVELOPMENT, IT'S, IT BECOMES PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
YOU REMOVE THE SOIL, YOU CATEGORIZE IT, AND THEN ULTIMATELY TAKE IT TO, TO AN APPROPRIATE LANDFILL.
WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH WATER, SPECIFICALLY SHALLOW GROUNDWATER, IT BECOMES EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO CLEAN UP, UH, TO MITIGATE, UH, SO MANY TIMES WHAT END UP HAPPENING IS A LOT OF THESE
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BUILDINGS, A LOT OF THESE FACILITIES REMAIN VACANT AND VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO REDEVELOPMENT, TO REDEVELOP OR TO CONSTRUCT ANYTHING AT THOSE SITES.SO THE REMEDIATION THEMSELVES THAT COMES BECOMES VERY COSTLY AND CERTAINLY TIME CONSUMING.
AND THEN WE END UP, AS A COMMUNITY, WE END UP WITH THESE STRUCTURES AND BUILDINGS LEFT THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME WITH NOTHING BEING ABLE TO, UH, BE DONE ABOUT IT.
SO THE BENEFIT OF THIS M SS D AND AND ENROLLING IN THIS PROGRAM, IT ALLOWS THE DEVELOPER OF THAT, OF THAT SITE, FIRST OF ALL, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT, IS THAT THAT DEVELOPER INTERESTED IN OR IN DEVELOPING HAS TO ENROLL IN A, IN A, IN A STATE PROGRAM, UH, UH, TO CLEAN UP THE SITE IN A STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CLEAN UP THE SITE.
AND IT INCLUDES IDENTIFYING THE EXTENT OF THE GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION, WHICH IN ITSELF IS, IS IS DIFFICULT TO DO.
ALSO PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM THE CONSUMPTION OF THIS SHALLOW GROUNDWATER BY PLUGGING ANY POTENTIAL, ANY WELLS OR ANY KIND OF ACCESS IS.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY, UM, REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY CONSIDERATION AND NOTIFICATION TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PROMOTE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS UNDER THIS, UH, UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTIES.
SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE PROCESS SO THAT YOU CAN GET A BETTER SENSE OF, THERE WE GO.
A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, FIRST AND FOREMOST, M SS D UH, IS REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY, UH, THE APPLICATION WILL REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO IDENTIFY THIS, THIS BOUNDARY.
THEY HAVE TO ENROLL IN A T C E Q REGULATORY CLEANUP PROGRAM, 'CAUSE THAT IN ITSELF, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, IT IS THE T C E Q THAT ADMINISTERS AND GOVERNS THIS.
BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT T C E Q CANNOT MAKE A FINAL RULING UNTIL THE LOCAL ENTITY IN, IN OUR CASE, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, PASSES, UH, AND APPROVES THIS, THIS PROCESS.
BUT ULTIMATELY, IT IS TC Q'S RESPONSIBILITY.
THEY ARE, THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO PROVIDE, UH, A, A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
ALL THE ASSOCIATED ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AND GEOLOGICAL, UH, SURVEYS ALSO HAS TO BE ABLE TO DELINEATE THE EXTENT OF THE GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION.
THAT IN ITSELF WILL REQUIRE THIS DEVELOPMENT TO SPEND MANY A LONG TIME THROUGH RAINY SEASONS AND THROUGH DRY SEASONS.
TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE SIZE OF THE, OF THE PLUME OR OF THAT CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER, THEY HAVE TO IDENTIFY ANY, ANY WELLS AND PLUG ANY OF, ANY, ANY WELLS THAT MAY, UH, BE UNPLUGGED OR ABANDONED.
THERE NEEDS TO GO THROUGH A PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROCESS.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY, ONCE APPROVED, UH, ONCE ALL THE TECHNICAL DATA HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND, AND ACCEPTED, UH, IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
THERE ARE SOME FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THERE'S INITIAL, UH, $2,000 UPFRONT APPLICATION FEE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY A PROCESSING FEE.
AND WE CAN GET INTO SOME OF THOSE DETAILS AS NEEDED.
THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU.
UH, ONE IS IT CANNOT BE OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER.
SO, UH, ANY, THIS WORK CANNOT HAPPEN OVER THAT.
ADDITIONALLY, IT HAS TO BE, UH, THERE IS A RESTRICTION THAT IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN HALF A MILE AWAY FROM, UH, A SAUCE PUMP STATION.
THE, THE PROCESS THAT, UH, AGAIN, WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL BACK IN 2016 AND IS THE FOLLOWING.
FIRST OF ALL, DEVELOPER WILL IDENTIFY THE SITE AND SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.
IT THEN GOES TO A DEVELOPMENT.
AND, AND ONCE THEY, THEY DO THIS WORK, THEY, UH, SUBMIT IT TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM EVALUATION.
THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS COMPOSED OF, UH, FOLKS FROM, UH, C C D O, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THEIR INTENT IS REALLY TO DETERMINE IF THAT INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT IS SUITED FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
IT THEN GOES INTO A TECHNICAL TEAM EVALUATION.
THE TECHNICAL TEAM IS COMPOSED OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PARKS, UH, T C I AND, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND THAT TECHNICAL TEAM, UH, THEY DETERMINE IF THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESULTS MEET HEALTH AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS THE PROGRAM'S REQUIREMENT.
ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THERE'S ALSO COORDINATION WITH PARTICIPATING AGENCIES.
AND THOSE INCLUDE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEMS AND EDWARDS AQUIFER, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE WELL AWARE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS ITEM IS ONCE THAT ENTIRE PROCESS GOES THROUGH.
AND MIND YOU, THIS IS NOT A QUICK PROCESS, BUT ONCE THAT ENTIRE PROCESS GOES THROUGH, THEN IT GOES INTO A PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORS, NOTIFYING
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FOLKS IN THE AREA OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THE RESULTS OF THE FINDINGS.AND FINALLY, UH, THAT IS REQUIRED TO COME TO THIS COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL THEN, UH, ALLOW US TO GO TO FULL TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, AN ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY ORDINANCE, NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL SITES.
SO TO REEMPHASIZE KIND OF THE PURPOSE, ONCE THE APPLICATION AND DATA AND, AND THE DATA DEMONSTRATES THAT THE GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION PLUME IS STABLE OR DECREASING, THEN A LETTER GOES IS SUBMITTED TO THE DIRECTOR FOR APPROVAL.
AND THAT'S, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT WITHOUT THIS PROGRAM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE EXTENT OF THAT PLUME.
BUT THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, WE'RE THEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS THE PLUME, WHAT'S IT DOING, UH, AND THEN TAKE THE NEEDED STEPS TO EITHER MAINTAIN IT STABLE OR TO REDUCE THAT CONTAMINATED PLUME.
ONCE THAT IS IDENTIFIED, THEN THE, THE, THE NEEDED STEPS TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO WITHIN 60 DAYS OF RECEIVING THE LETTER, UH, FROM THE, FROM THE DIRECT, UH, TO THE DIRECTOR, THEN WE HAVE TO GO INTO A PUBLIC MEETING.
UH, THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO GO SHARING THIS APPLICATIONS, THE RESULT OF THOSE, UH, APPLI THE RESULTS OF THOSE, UH, TESTINGS, UH, SHARE WHAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THEN OBTAIN PUBLIC INPUT FOR THAT, THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, THERE WILL BE BRIEFINGS, UH, THAT WOULD COME TO THIS COMMITTEE NOTIFYING YOU OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS, IS DOING, WHAT THEY HAVE FOUND.
AND THEN, UH, AND THIS HAS TO COME HERE FIRST PRIOR TO GOING TO CITY COUNCIL, THEN WE HAVE TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AT, UH, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR THIS M SS D CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN FINALLY REQUEST CITY, CITY COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THAT APPLICATION.
THEY HAVE TO RECEIVE THAT INDIVIDUAL APPLICATION FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY BEFORE THEY CAN GET ANYTHING CLEARED BY THE T C Q AND THEN ULTIMATELY ALLOWED TO DEVELOP ON THAT SITE.
UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS, UM, IT IS A NEW PROGRAM.
WE HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH ONE APPLICATION YET, BUT WE DO HAVE, CURRENTLY, WE HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS THAT ARE GETTING REVIEWED AND BEING MONITORED AND HAVE BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UH, WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE RAINY SEASONS AND SOME OF THESE TO GET A BETTER SENSE OF THAT O O, OF WHAT THAT PLUME IS DOING.
AND WE WILL BE COMING FORWARD.
I ANTICIPATE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, WE WILL HAVE AN APPLICATION COMING FORWARD, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU, AND CERTAINLY I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH A LOT OF THESE ITEMS. BUT, UH, THIS IS, THIS HAS BECOMES A TOOL TO HELP US REDEVELOPMENTS, UH, DEVELOP SOME OF THESE SITES.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME? THANK YOU, NFI.
UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA START WITH COUNCILWOMAN ADRIANA GARCIA ROCHA, I MEAN, ROCHA GARCIA.
THANK YOU NEFI FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, WAS IT YOU THAT BRIEFED ME A FEW WEEKS AGO? OKAY.
SO THEN WHEN I SAW THIS ITEM, I WAS LIKE, I THINK I, I WAS FAMILIAR WITH A PROJECT ALREADY THAT MIGHT BE COMING, A COUNCIL, SO YOU GAVE ME A GREAT UNDERSTANDING AT THAT POINT.
SO I, I FELT REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH KIND OF THE PROCESS.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR BRIEFING ME ON THAT.
UM, HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS WOULD YOU EXPECT THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS TYPE ACROSS THE CITY? WELL, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS THAT, UH, THAT ARE SUBMITTING APPLICATIONS.
WE, UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO.
IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE RESULTS, BUT POTENTIALLY, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE MANY SITES WHO HAVE, BECAUSE OF INDUSTRY, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, UM, STANDARDS MANY YEARS AGO DID NOT HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE NOW.
SO THINK OF ALL THOSE ABANDONED BUILDINGS THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN THERE, THOSE OLD DRY CLEANERS, THOSE, THOSE THAT HAVE, HAVE, HAVE PROVIDED SOME KIND OF CONTAMINATION.
THIS BECOMES A TOOL TO BE ABLE TO REDEVELOP.
UH, AND IT, WHILE THE PROCESS IS EXTENSIVE, UH, THE ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, BECOMES EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
UM, BUT THIS BECOMES A, A GOOD TOOL, BUT IT, UH, IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY A LOT MANY PROPERTIES.
ARE WE WORKING WITH, I KNOW FOR THE, YOU MENTIONED C C D O, BUT ARE WE ALSO WORKING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT? ARE WE BEING PROACTIVE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK ON THIS? WE CERTAINLY ARE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ONE OF THE PARTNER, ONE OF THE PARTNERS THAT WE WORK WITH ALONG WITH C C D O AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AND, UH, TO WANT TO NOTIFY THEM TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS TOOL IS AVAILABLE.
UM, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS RIGHT NOW, IT IS, UH, DALLAS AND HOUSTON THAT HAVE KIND OF LED THE WAY IN DEVELOPING THIS.
AND NOW WE HAVE RECEIVED, WE, WE ALSO HAVE THIS, THIS TOOL.
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DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IS STARTING TO, TO UNDERSTAND AND IS MOVING FORWARD.HOW ARE DALLAS AND HOUSTON DOING? JOHN COULD, THIS IS JOHN CONTU.
HE'S THE, HE'S THE MANAGER OF, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP.
UM, DALLAS AND HOUSTON HAS HAD THEIR PROGRAMS, I WANNA SAY DALLAS HAS HAD IT PROBABLY OVER FIVE YEARS.
AND THEN I THINK HOUSTON HAS HAD IT AROUND THAT TIME.
BUT LAST TIME I CHECKED, DALLAS WAS APPROACHING CLOSE TO A HUNDRED APPLICATIONS, AND I THINK HOUSTON WAS VERY CLOSE TO AROUND 90.
IT'S LOOK ON A, IF WE'RE AVERAGING ON, UH, SO I DO HAVE A, A A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED SOME, UH, A COMMITTEE.
DO WE ALSO HAVE EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED? AND SO I'M LOOKING FOR LIKE SIERRA CLUB OR, UH, ANY NEIGHBORHOOD OR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS THAT WOULD BE OF IMPACTED BY, BY THIS.
DO THEY ALSO GET A SAY IN THIS OR ANY OF THE LABOR UNIONS IN THE AREA? WELL, IF YOU, UH, ON SLIDE, UH, NUMBER SEVEN, THERE ARE PAGE NUMBER SEVEN THERE, WE IN, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF GROUPS THAT WE DEAL WITH, THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, THE TECHNICAL TEAM, AND THE PARTNERING AGENCIES.
THOSE PARTNERING AGENCIES BEING SAS AND EDWARDS AQUIFER.
PART OF THE REQUIREMENT IN DEVELOPING A PARTICULAR SITE IS THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.
THAT DOES INCLUDE WORKING WITH THE LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS AROUND THAT PROPERTY.
SO LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
SO IF, UH, IN THIS PICTURE, OH, OR IT WENT THE WRONG WAY IN THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE IN UH, PAGE, UH, ON SECTION FIVE, UH, THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS TRYING TO DEVELOP THAT OLD GAS STATION WOULD HAVE HAD TO WORK WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WITH ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE AREA TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM WHAT IT IS, WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA HAPPEN IN, IN, IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
SO AS, AS THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, UH, THE OUTREACH DOES GO OUT TO THEM.
I, I THINK SO, BECAUSE THIS INVOLVES A, UM, A, A VERY HEAVY SUBJECT.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IF YOU WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS PART OF A REVIEW TEAM, MAYBE IN THAT PARTNERING AGENCIES, YOU WOULD CONSIDER THIS STAKEHOLDER GROUP TO BE SPECIFIC IN, IN OUR PROCESS OR WHEN WE GO TO WRITE WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE WRITING, THAT WE SHOW THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ENGAGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND ANY, UM, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ADVOCATE FOR, UH, FOR THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE IMPACTFUL TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S, I THINK THAT IT'S A NECESSITY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE IT ON HERE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THAT COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE BEING, UM, INVOLVED AND THAT WE'RE SEEKING, UM, THEIR, THEIR INVOLVEMENT BEFORE.
BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM, UH, TEND TO HAVE EXPERTS.
SOME OF THEM TEND TO HAVE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE SOME INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE GOING BACK TO RECORDS, BUT WE HAVE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, DECADES THAT, THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO KIND OF GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK OF MAYBE WHAT HAPPENED.
AND MAYBE WE COULD AVOID SOME, SOME MISSTEPS.
COUNCILMAN, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE AS, AS WE HAVE WORKED WITH SOME OF THESE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S ALSO, IT'S ALWAYS FASCINATING TO HEAR THE HI, THE, THE STORIES THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE FOR A LONG TIME SAY, OH, YES, I REMEMBER THIS, I REMEMBER THAT.
AND WE'RE ABLE TO, TO GET SOME GOOD INFORMATION FROM THAT.
WE WILL, WE WILL CERTAINLY, UH, REACH OUT TO THEM.
COUNSEL, I, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE DO IS IN THE ORDINANCE, WE ESTABLISH A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, INVOLVEMENT THAT WE WILL GET, LIKE, YOU KNOW, CONTACTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO THAT WAY IT, IT'S CAPTURED THAT WE WILL DO THIS AT A, AT A MINIMUM, YES, WE WILL.
THANK YOU, ROD, FOR DOING THAT.
AND SO I, I KEEP SAYING THE SIERRA CLUB, BUT, BUT I, I REALLY THINK THAT EITHER THEM OR SOMEBODY THAT HAS, THAT, THAT LENS OF ADVOCATING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES SHOULD, SHOULD ALSO ALWAYS BE CONSIDERED IN THIS TYPE OF THING.
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO THEM BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S SOMEBODY THAT UNDERSTANDS THE, THE ISSUES WITH GROUNDWATER, BECAUSE THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC.
AND THEN THANK YOU FOR, UH, AND I KNOW EVERYTHING ELSE SEEMS PRETTY GOOD, THE PUBLIC HEARING PART, THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, I JUST WOULD LOVE TO BE VERY SPECIFIC IN THE ORDINANCE AGAINST, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME GROUPS THAT HAVE SAID, OH, WELL, THE CITY DOESN'T TELL US ABOUT SOMETHING UNTIL WE'LL LEARN ABOUT IT.
AND SO I, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE VERY PROACTIVE TO GET THEIR INPUT BEFORE WE, UM, YOU KNOW, EN ENGAGE WITH, UH, ANYBODY ELSE OR AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
UM, I KNOW WHEN I FIRST WAS ELECTED IN THE OFFICE, I WAS ABLE TO HAVE ONE OF THESE PROJECTS COME BEFORE ME IN OUR DISTRICT, AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD GET AN UPDATE ON THAT.
IT WAS THE ONE THAT'S OFF OF, OF
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RIMAN.IT'S ONE OF THE OLDER SITES THAT USED TO BE A WAREHOUSE.
THEY FOUND SOME CONTAMINATED, UH, SOIL.
IT WAS A SMALL PLUME THAT DIDN'T ACTUALLY GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT DID AFFECT THE CONTAMINATION.
SO IF I CAN GET AN UPDATE ON THAT AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, I KNOW LIKE WITH THE O G J SUTTON BUILDING, UM, THERE WAS SOME CONTAMINATION FOUND ON, ON THE, THAT PROPERTY AS WELL.
UM, HENCE FOR THE REASON WHY IT WAS, IT WAS DEMOLISHED BY THE STATE SIDE.
BUT AS FAR AS WE AS A CITY SIDE, IF WE KNOW EXACTLY THE EXTENT OF THAT CONTAMINATION, UM, DUE TO, UH, THAT BUILDING BEING, UH, DEMOLISHED AS WELL.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, IS THE M S D SPECIFICALLY FOR REDEVELOPMENT, OR IS IT FOR, UM, DEVELOPERS THAT ARE LOOKING TO DO INFILL AND GROUND UP WORK OR DEMOLISHING AND THEN REBUILDING? UM, JUST TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE SPECIFICS ARE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT PARTICULAR LAND, UM, WHETHER IT'S BRAND NEW OR WHETHER IT'S JUST GONNA BE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF AN EXISTING, UM, BODY THAT'S THERE.
TO ANSWER TO THE FIRST QUESTION IS WE WILL REACH OUT, BACK, BACK TO YOU.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE WERE, WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT.
THAT'S ACTUALLY THE FIRST APPLICATION THAT WILL COME FORWARD, AND IT WILL COME TO THIS COMMITTEE, BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU A STATUS UPDATE ON WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, THE ANSWER TO THE THIRD QUESTION REALLY IS, UH, THAT IT IS, IT'S FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON, UH, DEPENDS ON THE RESULTS.
IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, TEARING THE WHOLE THING DOWN AND REBUILDING OR, OR, YOU KNOW, IN INFILL TYPE OF WORK.
UH, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
UH, THE ANSWER TO THE SECOND QUESTION ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK THROUGH OUR FILES TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE, AND THEN WE CAN REACH OUT BACK TO YOUR OFFICE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
UM, UH, ONE QUESTION ON HOW THIS, UH, PROCESS WORKS IS, AND, AND I KNOW YOU GAVE ME A THOROUGH BRIEFING AND, UM, AND IT WAS A LOT TO DIGEST, BUT, SO THE WELLS WOULD BE PLUGGED AT THE PROPERTY.
UH, BUT WHAT IF WE KNOW THE PLUME EXCEEDS THE PROPERTY LINE? WHAT, AND THERE ARE WELLS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES OR THE POSSIBILITY OF THERE BEING WELLS IN THE FUTURE.
WHAT'S, HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT IN THE PROPOSAL? AS, AS THE NOTIFICA OR THE, THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE PLUME WHEN THAT IS, WHEN THAT OCCURS? IT IS REQUIRED THAT ANY, ANY WELL THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT GETS PLUGGED.
UM, AND THAT INCLUDES OFFSITE, THAT IS REQUIRED, THAT IS A PART OF THE REQUIREMENT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, A, A DEEDED RECOMMENDATION WILL OCCUR ON THAT PROPERTY, SO THAT IF EVER ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO PURCHASE THAT OR PURCHASE ANY LAND AROUND THERE, IT IS, IT IS NOTIFIED OF THAT.
JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, ANYTHING, ANY, UH, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ABOUT, BUT, BUT WHAT ABOUT, DO YOU HAVE SOME, A RECORD ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT, THAT IS PART OF WHAT'S NOTIFIED? THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS INCLUDES NOT ONLY THE, THE, THE, ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, BUT ALL THOSE IMPACTED BY THIS PLUME.
THE NOTIFICATION DOES, YES, BUT THE NOTIFICATION IS A ONE TIME THING.
SO SAY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER SELLS, OR THEIR CHILDREN INHERIT IT, HOW DO WE, UM, IS, IS THERE ANY MECHANISM TO ENSURE THAT THOSE IT'S THROUGH THAT DEEDED RECORDATION THAT OCCURS? SO THE DEED IS NOT JUST FOR THE PROPERTY IT FOR THE ADJACENT, IT'S, IT'S TO SHOW EV EV THE ENTIRE IMPACT OF THAT.
SO, SO LET'S SAY THAT, YEAH, SAY WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO PROPERTIES.
YOU HAVE ONE PROPERTY, AND IT'S DEVELOPED IF THAT PLUME EXTENDS INTO, INTO YOUR PROPERTY, THE PART OF WHAT'S REQUIRED THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS NOTIFICATIONS TO, TO YOU LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN FOUND AND THAT THOSE, THOSE WELLS NEED TO BE PLUGGED.
AND IF I WANT TO, IF I WANT TO DO THE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SIDE, I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT IS MITIGATED AND TAKEN CARE OF.
BUT MY DEEDED NEVER CHANGES, THOUGH.
YOU DON'T PUT ANYTHING ON MY DEED, RIGHT? NO.
WHAT, BUT NO, BUT WE MAKE THE NOTIFICATIONS AND THEN THE STATE IS AWARE OF THAT.
AND SO WHEN I DECIDE TO SELL MY PROPERTY, WHAT OBLIGATIONS DO I HAVE TO, TO ENSURE THAT THE NEXT PROPERTY OWNER KNOWS? I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT CERTAIN ON THAT PARTICULAR ANSWER.
SO, SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THE APPLICANT COMES IN, THEY WILL DELINEATE THE EXTENT, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO PROVE TO US THAT THE PLUME IS STABLE OR DECREASING.
SO WHEN THEY APPLY FOR THE M S D BOUNDARY, IT'S TYPICALLY
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FOR THEIR PROPERTY, AND IT CAN ENCOMPASS THE RIGHT OF WAY.IF IT GOES INTO ANOTHER PROPERTY LIKE NEPHEW HAD MENTIONED, WE NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE APPLICANT TO GO TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND EITHER TO INCLUDE AS PART OF THE M S D OR THE APPLICANT, UH, THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNER COULD APPLY FOR THE M S D.
AND WHAT THE M SS D ALLOWS IS THAT ONE, UM, THAT PROPERTY OWNER WOULD PROBABLY BE WILLING TO WORK WITH A STATE.
WHEN YOU ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY TRANSFER THE PROPERTY, IF IT'S PROVEN THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY HISTORICAL USE THAT CAUSED THAT CONTAMINATION, THERE'S ANOTHER PROGRAM THE STATE HAS, WHICH IS CALLED THE INNOCENT OWNER PROGRAM, WHICH THAT WILL ENABLE THEM TO BE PART OF THAT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THEY WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR THAT CONTAMINATION.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
ONE IS EITHER THE M S D OR THE OTHER ONE COULD BE THE INNOCENT OWNER PROGRAM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE APPLICANT AND ENSURING THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE ADDRESSING THE M S D, BUT ALSO THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND SO IS THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNER AN AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNER UNDER AN OBLIGATION TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT IN THE FUTURE? IN ONE OF THOSE TWO WAYS? THAT IS STRICTLY UP TO THEM.
UH, WE WILL REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO REACH OUT TO THEM.
UM, THAT, THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING FOR, FOR ME, IF THE PLUME EXTENDS INTO THEIR AREA.
ROD, DO YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS? BUT I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, BUT THEY, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO REDEVELOP THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT APPLY.
SO IT'S KIND OF IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
OTHERWISE, THEY'RE GONNA BE SUBJECT TO ALL THE THINGS THAT NEFE TALKED ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS PRESENTATION, ALL THE CLEAN THAT BEN, WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO THIS IS THERE TO HELP, I GUESS, EXPEDITE FACILITATE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, I THINK WHEN YOU GO TO COURT, RIGHT, IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE LAWS WHERE I, I WOULDN'T WANT SOMEONE TO BE IGNORANT OF IT.
AND AT THE END, WE HAVE A, A HEALTH CRISIS ON OUR HANDS.
SO I, I WOULD ASK, IS THERE, COULD YOU THINK ABOUT A WAY WE CAN ENSURE AT LEAST LOCALLY, THAT THAT AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE, UM, REQUIRED TO, TO DO SOMETHING? AT LEAST IF IT'S A FLAG THAT WE PUT ON THE PROPERTY? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT, WE, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH LEGAL.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT TOOLS WE HAVE AVAILABLE SO THAT IN, YOU KNOW, THE EVENT THEY ARE SELLING IT, THAT IT SHOWS UP ON A TITLE SEARCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT THE, THAT THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER, 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA, THAT THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE AWARE OF IT, BUT THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER WOULD ALSO BE AWARE OF IT.
SO IT'D HAVE TO BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WE NEED TO TALK TO LEGAL TO SEE WHAT, WHAT TOOLS WE HAVE AT OUR, YOU KNOW, AVAILABILITY.
I KNOW NEPHEW, WHEN YOU, UM, BROUGHT THE PROJECT THAT WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT, THE FIRST ONE, UM, BECAUSE OF HOW FAR IT EXTENDED, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT WAS THERE AROUND THAT, WELL, THEY HAD THEIR WELL KEPT OFF AS WELL, CORRECT.
SO IS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR EACH ONE OF THESE THAT WE'RE DOING? OR IS THAT JUST A ONE-TIME THING BECAUSE THE PROPERTY AGREED TO IT.
NO, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE, THAT PROPERTY, THAT DEVELOPMENT HAS TO WORK WITH THAT, THAT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WELLS ARE CAPPED AND THAT THERE ISN'T ANY IMPACT.
SO THIS, THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S REQUIRED.
SO IT WASN'T A, A ONE-TIME THING, IT'S, IT'S WHAT IS REQUIRED.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO US WITH A MODIFICATION ON, OUT ON OUTREACH, UH, TO THE, TO THE ORDINANCE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO, TO SEEING THAT.
UM, I THINK WHAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER, AND MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE TO INTEGRATE THIS INTO THE LANGUAGE, IS WHEN WE INVITE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE AND GIVE US THEIR INPUT, IT'S ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL IF WE TELL THEM WHAT TYPE OF INPUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE, UH, I CAN VERY WELL SEE SOMEONE SAYING, HEY, I JUST DON'T WANT THAT DEVELOPED PERIOD.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE TYPE OF INPUT THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR, IS THERE ANY, YOU KNOW, REASON OR IS THERE ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT? SO I, WHEN YOU ULTIMATELY DO THE OUTREACH, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
OTHERWISE WE MIGHT END UP WITH MORE PROBLEMS, UH,
UM, AND COUNCILMAN, NEXT TIME WE COME BACK, WE'LL COME BACK WITH AN ACTUAL APPLICATION FOR AN INDIVIDUAL SITE AND WE CAN TALK MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT THE, THE PROPERTY AND THE OWNERS AND WHAT'S BEEN DONE AT THOSE PARTICULAR SITES.
SO, UM, IN TERMS OF TIMELINE, WE'LL SEE THE APPLICATION BEFORE THE ORDINANCE CAN BE A, UH, ADJUSTED.
WE CAN, I WE'RE EXPECTING THE APPLICATION
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TO COME IN IN MID-DECEMBER, MID TO LATE DECEMBER.BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THE REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE THOSE OUTREACHES IS IT'LL, IT'LL BE SOMETHING WE CAN, WE CAN SIMPLY ADD TO OUR, OUR REQUIREMENTS OF THEM, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.
AND THEN ROD, WHEN DO YOU THINK WE COULD COME BACK WITH, UM, WITH A REVISED ORDINANCE? YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON WHAT TOOLS WE CAN USE.
WE, YEAH, PROBABLY THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR SOMEWHERE.
AND, UM, THAT'S THE, THE END OF THE ITEMS. I KNOW WE'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER, BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING TO MY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, UH, THE CLERK.
WHAT IS YOUR NAME, MA'AM? NANCY.
UM, SO I KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS WE ASK QUESTIONS AND, UM, WHICH IS GREAT, AND WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THE ANSWERS, LIKE STAFF MAY HAVE TO DO SOME FOLLOW UP.
SO, UH, NANCY, I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU AND, UM, DR.
UH, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO CREATE, UM, A DOCUMENT THAT'S, UH, FOLLOW UP TO QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, ASKED AT COUNCIL? AND I KNOW, UM, SOMETIMES, UH, STAFF MEMBERS HAVE DONE THAT AND BEEN ABLE TO, TO COMMUNICATE IT.
I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
WE DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY SIT THROUGH AND READ IT, BUT MAYBE AFTER THE MINUTES WE'LL JUST HAVE A REPORT ON, UH, OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS AND THEN IT BECOMES PART OF THE RECORD.
ALL OF US GET A COPY OF IT AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN, CAN ALSO READ IT AS WELL.