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ANDREW SULLIVAN HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER .

COUNCIL MEMBER CAB HDA.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE.

AND CHAIRWOMAN SANDOVAL.

WE HAVE A COURT.

THANK YOU, DENISE.

UH, WE'LL START WITH, UM, ITEM NUMBER

[1. 19-8548 Approval of the minutes from the Public Safety Committee meeting on September 20, 2019]

ONE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2019.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

ITEM TWO,

[2. 19-8549 Approval of the minutes from the Public Safety Committee meeting on October 15, 2019]

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING ON OCTOBER 15TH, 2019.

ALL IN ANY, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

UH, WE'RE NOW INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

IS THERE A SIGNUP SHEET? YES.

ANY CITIZEN SIGNED US TO SPEAK? YES.

NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP.

THANK YOU, DENISE.

UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEMS FOR BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU, JOE FRANK.

UM, ITEM

[3. 19-8476 Briefing on the Department of Human Services (DHS) Homeless programs to include coordinated encampment outreach and alternative giving initiatives. [Colleen M. Bridger, MPH, PhD, Assistant City Manager; Melody Woosley, Director, Human Services]]

NUMBER THREE, BRIEFING ON THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES HOMELESS PROGRAMS TO INCLUDE COORDINATED ENCAMPMENT, OUTREACH AND ALTERNATIVE GIVING INITIATIVES.

UM, WE HAVE EDWARD GONZALEZ.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, AGAIN, MY NAME'S EDWARD GONZALEZ.

I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF, UM, OVERSEEING HOMELESS INVESTMENTS FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

UH, TODAY I'M GONNA GIVE A BRIEF, UH, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF HOMELESS, UH, SUM, A TOTAL HOMELESS, UH, BRIEFING, BUT I'M GONNA FOCUS ON TWO PROJECTS.

ONE IS OUR HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT OUTREACH EFFORTS THAT WE, UH, AS A CITY FOCUS WITH MULTI DEPARTMENTS.

AND THEN THE OTHER IS OUR ALTERNATIVE GIVING UPDATE.

LET'S SEE HERE.

ALRIGHT, IT WORKS.

SO, AS WAY OF BACKGROUND AND TO SET, UH, KINDA THE, THE, THE CONTEXT OF HOMELESS SERVICES, I WANNA SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, POINT IN TIME COUNT.

SO ANNUALLY, UH, EVERY YEAR IN JANUARY, USUALLY IN JANUARY OF, OF, UH, OF EVERY YEAR, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, IN COORDINATION WITH, UH, THE SOUTH ALAMO REGIONAL ALLIANCE FOR THE HOMELESS, AS WELL AS, UH, BEX COUNTY, WE TAKE A, A ONE NIGHT SNAPSHOT OF HOMELESS, UH, INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND BEXAR COUNTY.

NOW, WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT, SO THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

IT GIVES US A REALLY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT IN SAN ANTONIO.

SO, OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, UH, YOU, WE MAY SEE LIKE 11,000 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, UH, FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS AND THEN BECOME REHOUSED.

THERE'S SOME SHORT DURATION OF HOMELESSNESS.

BUT ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT IN SAN ANTONIO, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ABOUT AN, AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 3000 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HOMELESS.

THE MAJORITY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE, UH, ARE, ARE, ARE CATEGORIZED IN TWO WAYS, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE EITHER SHELTERED OR UNSHELTERED.

SO, WHAT I HAVE ON THE SLIDE TODAY, IT, IT SHOWS, AND WE'RE ON SLIDE TWO.

IT SHOWS, UH, THE 2018 TO 2019 COUNT.

IN BOTH OF THOSE, IN, UH, BOTH OF THOSE AREAS, SHELTERED AND UNSHELTERED, WE, WE SAW A DECREASE OF HOMELESS ACTIVITY, RIGHT? SO FROM, UH, OUR SHELTERED AREA, WE HAD 2% DECREASE FROM 2018 TO 2019.

IN OUR, OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, WE SAW A 12% DECREASE FROM 2018 TO 19.

AND OVERALL, WE SAW A TOTAL DECREASE OF ABOUT 6% OF TOTAL INDIVIDUALS, UH, SEEN ON, ON THE LEFT HAND COLUMN HERE, WE WE'RE SHOWING VETERANS, CHRONICS AND YOUTH INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS FAMILIES.

SO THIS REALLY TELLS US A PICTURE WHEN WE GO OUT.

UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS I WANNA TELL YOU ABOUT THAT NIGHT.

THE NIGHT.

SO WE DO THIS ALL IN ONE NIGHT.

UH, THE SHELTER COUNT IS REALLY COUNTED, UH, ELECTRONICALLY.

SO WE HAVE A HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM.

THE SHELTER COUNT IS AUTOMATICALLY TALLIED.

THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS THAT, UM, ARE IN SHELTER ARE AT HAVEN FOR HOPE.

THERE'S AROUND 800 PEOPLE, UH, THAT ARE IN THAT 853 TO BE EXACT.

IN 2019, UH, OF THE SHELTERED COUNT, THERE WAS 800 AND, UH, 53 PEOPLE AT, ON CAMPUS.

AND IN THE UNSHELTERED CATEGORY AT HAVEN FOR HOPE, THERE WAS 565 THAT WERE IN THE COURTYARD.

SO THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF, UH, WELL, THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERED UNSHELTERED BECAUSE THEY ARE STAYING IN THE COURTYARD.

THEY'RE NOT, UH, INSIDE THE DOORS ON THE CAMPUS.

BUT THAT GIVES YOU ABOUT 700, AROUND 622

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INDIVIDUALS THAT THE COMMUNITY COUNTED ON THAT NIGHT THAT ARE OUT IN, AROUND, ALL ACROSS SAN ANTONIO.

SO THEY'RE IN EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT, UH, AND THERE'S ABOUT 622 PEOPLE THAT WE COUNTED LAST YEAR THROUGHOUT THAT.

NOW, THE METHODOLOGY FOR THIS IS THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY, UH, VOLUNTEERS.

LAST YEAR WE HAD SEVERAL HUNDRED, ABOUT 500 VOLUNTEERS.

THEY'RE BROKEN UP INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT TEAMS. AND THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT HELPS STAFF EACH ONE OF THOSE TEAMS. AND THEY'RE, IT'S BROKEN UP BY THE AREA.

SO OUR SAFE OFFICERS PROVIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE IS SAFETY AND SECURITY, BUT THEY ALSO HELP GUIDE US INTO LOCATIONS WHERE THEY KNOW WHERE, UH, HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS TEND TO STAY, RIGHT? SO THE MAJORITY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE EITHER IN, UH, ENCAMPMENTS, WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

AND, UH, SO WHAT WE DO IS WE GO OUT AND, UH, UH, WE GO AND SCOUR EVERY, THE, THE WHOLE CITY IS MAPPED, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND AREAS FOR, FOR THE CITY TO, FOR THE VOLUNTEERS TO, TO COUNT.

AND THEY COUNT EACH NUMBER.

AS PART OF THAT, THEY ALSO DO A SMALL ASSESSMENT.

AND THEY ASK A, A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.

WHEN YOU SEE AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, MAYBE THEY MIGHT BE ASLEEP.

WE GIVE A SMALL CARE PACKAGE TO THEM AND WE SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT MIGHT HAVE SOME SOCKS, UH, MAYBE A BEANIE FOR THEM.

'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE COLD IN JANUARY.

AND THEN WE ALSO, WE ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY, RIGHT? SO ONE IS, ARE YOU A VETERAN? YES OR NO? UH, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HOMELESS? THAT'S HOW WE IDENTIFY WHETHER THEY'RE CHRONIC, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR AGE.

SO WE CAN IDENTIFY YOUTH AND THEN, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE WITH A FAMILY OR NOT.

NOW, THIS, WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THESE IS THAT THE, WHAT I THINK ARE SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE, UH, UNDERTAKEN, SPECIFICALLY THE ENCAMPMENT OUTREACH STRATEGY THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, CONDUCTING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL, UH, YEARS, HAS REALLY MADE AN IMPACT ON SOME OF THESE NUMBERS.

SO, ON VETERANS, THAT'S AS A RESULT OF OUR VETERAN INITIATIVE THAT WE, THAT WE STARTED THE MAYOR'S, UH, UH, VETERAN INITIATIVE.

AND WHAT WE DID WITH THAT IS WE HAVE CREATED A SYSTEM, AND THERE'S, UH, RESOURCES IN PLACE, FUNDS IN PLACE THAT AS WE IDENTIFY VETERANS, UH, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE, UH, SOME FLOW OF VETERANS.

WE SEE VETERANS, YOU'LL, YOU'LL HEAR THAT.

WELL, THERE'S A VETERAN AT HAVEN FOR HOPE, AND I THOUGHT YOU ENDED HOMELESS, UH, VETERAN HOMELESS VETERANS, UH, HOMELESSNESS FOR VETERANS.

YES, WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE MET OUR FEDERAL BENCHMARKS.

AND IN TERMS OF THOSE, THAT, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IF WE SEE A VETERAN TODAY, WITHIN 90 DAYS, WE CAN GET THAT VETERAN HOUSED.

SO THERE ARE RESOURCES FOR THEM.

THERE IS SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT WE CAN GET THAT VETERAN HOUSED WITHIN 90 DAYS IF THEY ACCEPT THAT SERVICE.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF VETERANS THAT, THAT CHOOSE NOT TO, TO BE HELPED AND NEED A LITTLE BIT LONGER TIME.

BUT WE, AND ON AVERAGE, WE ARE HOUSING, UH, INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THAT 90 DAY PERIOD.

NOW, CHRONIC HOMELESS, I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE DECREASE CAN BE SEEN BECAUSE, UH, WE DID SOME REALLY GREAT WORK ON OUR STREET OUTREACH.

THE MAJORITY OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS ARE EITHER STAYING AT THE HAVEN FOR HOPE CAMPUS IN THE COURTYARD, OR ARE IN ENCAMPMENTS THAT WE FIND OUT AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND THEN OUR YOUTH HOMELESS, UH, AGAIN, I THINK THIS, WE DID, WE, WE DID SOME GOOD WORK THIS YEAR FROM 2018 TO 19, UH, SPECIFICALLY AROUND OUR ENCAMPMENT OUTREACH WORK.

AND WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS THAT WE HAVE A TEAM MEMBER FROM THRIVE THAT IS, UH, THAT ASSISTS US.

AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PART OF, UH, THAT, THAT YOUTH, UH, OUTREACH FOR US FAMILIES IS AN AREA THAT WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE.

THIS IS THE ONE AREA THAT WE SAW AN 18% INCREASE.

UH, THE ISSUE, UH, THAT WE'RE SEEING THERE, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE FAMILIES THAT WE'RE SEEING ARE COMING INTO THE SHELTER.

THEY'RE COMING INTO HAVEN FOR HOPE.

UM, UH, THEY'RE HAVEN FOR HOPE IS A, IS AN OVERFLOW FOR FAMILIES.

SO WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT.

AND I'LL, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN MY NEXT SLIDE HERE.

SO, BEAR COUNTY HOMELESS CENSUS.

SO FROM THIS, THIS CHART GIVES YOU A, A COUNT OF REALLY, THE HOMELESS POINT IN TIME COUNT FROM 2010 TO 2019.

NOW IT'S, IT'S STAYED RIGHT IN 2010.

IT STAYED AROUND 3,200, UH, AND 90 PEOPLE IN 20 19, 28, UH, 72.

THIS LINE IS THE DOWNTOWN COUNT.

SO OPENING HAVEN FOPE, WE HAD OVER 738 INDIVIDUALS JUST DOWNTOWN.

SO IN THE 2019 COUNT, I I MENTIONED, WE HAD 622, UH, UNSHELTERED HOMELESS ACROSS THE CITY.

IN 2010, WE HAD 739.

IT'S 38 JUST DOWNTOWN.

AND THEN THIS LINE SHOWS REALLY THE PER CAPITA.

SO AS THE POPULATION IS GROWING, UH, THE, THIS GIVES YOU A MEASURE TO HOW TO, HOW TO RELATE

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THAT, HOW TO MIX THAT WITH, WITH, UH, THE NUMBERS OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE COUNTING.

SO FOR EVERY 10,000 INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS IN THE COUNTY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEING, UH, 19.9, UH, ONE, NINE IN 2010.

AND YOU'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING 14.46 IN 2019.

SO, UH, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, UH, THE PER CAPITA AND THE, AND THE POPULATION, WE ARE SEEING A DECREASE IN OUR HOMELESS COUNTS.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, EXCITED TO, FOR THIS YEAR'S COUNT.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, UH, WE, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN OUR ACCOUNTING OUTREACH, AND THERE IS A SENSE THAT THERE'S MORE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE WILL NOT REALLY BE ABLE TO TELL THAT UNTIL WE GET OUR 2020 COUNT.

AND WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME TRENDS, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO REALLY IDENTIFY IF THAT IS THE CASE OR NOT.

SO, HOMELESS INVESTMENT, I WANTED TO, TO BRIEFLY SHOW YOU A, A DIRECT SERVICE HOMELESS INVESTMENT THROUGH THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

UH, THE MAJORITY THROUGH THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS A, UH, IS $15 MILLION.

$5.1 MILLION IS IN HAVEN FOR HOPE.

UH, THAT INCLUDES AN ADDITIONAL 500,000 THAT WE MADE AVAILABLE THIS YEAR, UH, FOR, TO ADDRESS THE FAMILIES, RIGHT? SO TO ADDRESS THE INCREASE IN FAMILY HOMELESSNESS ON CAMPUS, WE ADDED ANOTHER $500,000.

THIS YEAR.

UH, THE $2.4 MILLION IS A CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO ADDRESS FAMILY HOMELESSNESS AS WELL.

THAT IS CAPITAL FUNDING TO, UH, ADJUST THEIR MARTIN STREET BUILDING TO HELP WITH SOME RENOVATIONS.

UH, TO ADD ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, $3.1 MILLION IS HAVEN FOR HOPE CAMPUS PARTNERS.

THAT INCLUDES THE FOOD BANK, ST.

VINCENT DEPAUL, UH, UH, UH, FAMILY VIOLENCE PREVENTION SERVICES CENTER FOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES.

AND THEN ANOTHER $3.2 MILLION IS FOR SERVICE PROVIDERS LIKE, UH, SAM MINISTRIES AND OTHERS, UH, ENDEAVORS, AND OTHER, OTHER VETERAN PROVIDERS THAT ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICE, EITHER AT THE CAMPUS OR, OR AT THEIR LOCATIONS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

OUR HUMAN SERVICES, UH, DEPARTMENT HAS ABOUT 3 730 $3,000.

AND THEN THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $560,000 THAT WE HAVE EARMARKED FOR THE COMPLETION OF OUR HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN.

NOW, THAT PROCESS, UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING THAT PROCESS, AND WE'RE HOPING TO BRING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO, UH, COUNCIL IN, UH, APRIL OF 2020.

SO, ENCAMPMENT OUTREACH INITIATIVE.

SO THIS IS REALLY THE INITIATIVE THAT, UH, THE PUBLIC AND YOUR RESIDENTS ARE REALLY SEEING EVERY DAY.

THIS IS THE INITIATIVE.

THIS IS OUR PRIMARY OUTREACH TOOL FOR, UH, ADDRESSING HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS.

NOW, UH, THE WAY THIS WORKS IS, YOU KNOW, ONE IS WE IDENTIFY, WE OUTREACH, WE CLEAN RESTORE, AND WE FOLLOW UP AND RESTORE.

THIS IS A MULTI-DEPARTMENT, UH, EFFORT.

WE HAVE THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT LEADS THE OUTREACH.

WE HAVE OUR OUTREACH STAFF THAT ARE, UH, GOING OUT TO THESE ENCAMPMENTS, PROVIDING SERV, UH, OFFERING SERVICES.

WE'RE THE COORDINATING BODY OF THIS.

WE HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE THE DEPARTMENT ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE RESTORATION.

SO THEY ARE BRINGING IN HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

IN MOST CASES.

WE HAVE, UM, ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN DRAINAGE DITCHES, UH, AND FOR A VARIETY OF SAFETY REASON, SAFETY REASONS, AND HEALTH AND HEALTH REASONS, WE HAVE TO CLEAN THOSE UP AND RESTORE THOSE.

UH, SO T C I IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING US WITH THAT.

SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, UH, HELPS WITH OBVIOUSLY THE DISPOSAL OF THE, OF THE DEBRIS, UH, THAT, THAT THE PHYSICAL DEBRIS THAT WE FIND, UH, SOME OF THE TRASH THAT'S THERE.

UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CRITICAL ON THESE.

THEY HELP PROVIDE, THEY'RE THE REALLY THE FIRST RESPONDERS.

SO THEY HELP IDENTIFY NEW ENCAMPMENTS AS THEY'RE PATROLLING.

UH, SAFE OFFICERS ARE PATROLLING.

THEY ALSO HELP ACCOMPANY, UM, OUR STAFF AND THE GROUP AS WE GO AND MAKE OUTREACH, UH, TO THESE, TO THESE INDIVIDUALS.

PARKS AND RECREATION IS PART OF, OF THIS AS WELL.

WE PROVIDE THESE OUT OUT ENCAMPMENT OUTREACH EVENTS IN PARKS, LOCATIONS, AND THEY REALLY ASSIST AND TAKE THE LEAD WHEN WE'RE IN THOSE PARK LOCATIONS.

ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES, ONE OF THE BARRIERS THAT WE HAVE, UH, EXPERIENCED FOR PEOPLE ACCEPTING SERVICES, UH, WHILE WE'RE WE'RE CONDUCTING OUTREACH, IS THAT THEY HAVE PETS.

SO, UH, A LOT OF THEM ARE DOGS.

UH, SO, UM, AND, UH, THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE DID THIS, WE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, ANIMAL SERVICES AS A PARTNER, BUT WE NOTICED THAT THAT WAS A, A, A BIG BARRIER, RIGHT? SO PEOPLE WOULD TELL US, WELL, I'LL, I'LL GO IN, I'LL GO IN TONIGHT TO HAVEN OR I'LL ACCEPT

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SERVICE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, I CANNOT LEAVE MY, MY, MY, MY FRIEND, UH, BEHIND.

I NEED TO TAKE MY DOG.

SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, SET SOME, UH, PARAMETERS.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IS WE'LL TAKE 'EM, UH, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES WILL ASSIST US IN BOARDING THE DOG.

UH, THEY'LL ALSO HELP, UH, WITH VACCINATIONS AND, UH, UH, THEY'LL NEUTER THE DOG IF IT NEEDS IT.

UH, IF THEY'LL, AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL HELP US BOARD THAT UNTIL, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL IS ABLE TO REUNITE WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR PET.

NOW, THEY, THEY VISIT WEEKLY.

SO IF, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL'S AT HAVEN FOR HOPE, THERE'S NOT SPACE AT HAVEN FOR KENNEL, UH, THE ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICE WILL SET UP APPOINTMENTS, SO THEN TO VISIT THEIR PET, UH, AND, AND KEEP THAT RELATIONSHIP UNTIL THEY'RE, UH, IN A BETTER SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN, UH, TAKE CONTROL OF THAT PET BACK.

NOW, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THEY REALLY HELP US WHEN WE'RE, UH, WORKING AND DOING OUTREACH ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO IN SOME CASES, THEY'RE A, PROPERTY OWNERS ARE CALLING US, OR WE ARE, UM, NOTIFIED ABOUT ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE CLOSE TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO WE NEED THEIR ASSISTANCE TO IDENTIFY, NO, THIS IS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.

IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE, THE PRIVATE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER TO ADDRESS THIS.

WE ASSIST IN MANY CASES IF, UH, IF THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, SOMETIMES THEY'RE UNAWARE THAT THERE'S HOMELESS ACTIVITY HAPPENING IN THEIR, IN THEIR, UH, ON THEIR PROPERTY.

AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UH, AND, AND GIVE THEM THE COURSE OF ACTION IN ORDER TO, UH, HOW DO WE, UH, ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

NOW, IN SOME CASES, WE, WE, UH, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS SAY, YEAH, WE, WE KNOW THERE'S HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, AND I WANT TO CLEAN IT UP, BUT I, I FEEL IT'S UNSAFE.

SO IN THAT CASE, WE GET OUR TEAM AND WE GO AND WE, UH, DO PROVIDE OUTREACH TO HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO CLEAN THAT PROPERTY UP, UH, WHEN WE DO THAT.

SO, WE ALSO HAVE HAVEN FOR HOPES AND MINISTRIES AND THRIVE YOUTH CENTERS THAT ARE PART OF THE OUTREACH TEAM.

UH, AND THEY'RE REALLY CRITICAL IN, IN THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.

UH, TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF HOW MUCH THIS COSTS, RIGHT IN, IN, UH, 2019, WE SPENT OVER $595,000 FOR ENCAMPMENT OUTREACH, UM, SERVICES.

THE PRIME, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS, UH, SALARIES AND, UH, FOR THE T C I DEPARTMENT.

SO, A SENSE OF SOME NUMBERS.

SO IN 2019, UH, UM, I'M SORRY, FROM 2017 TO 2019, WE CONDUCTED OVER 485 ENCAMPMENT OUTREACH EVENTS.

UM, WHAT'S CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THAT 20% OF INDIVIDUALS ACCEPTED SERVICES, WE, UH, CAME ACROSS IN 2019.

WE HAD 250 ENCAMPMENT OUTREACH EVENTS.

WE CONDUCT THESE EVERY FRIDAY.

SO THEY'RE CONDUCTED ON WEEKLY.

WE GO OUT EVERY FRIDAY THROUGHOUT THE WEEK BEFORE WE GO.

OUR OUTREACH STAFF TALKS TO AND PROVIDES OUTREACH.

UH, MANY PEOPLE ACCEPT SERVICES.

IN, UH, 2019, WE IDENTIFIED 512 INDI UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS IN THESE ENCAMPMENTS.

AND OF THAT 95% ACCEPTED SERVICE, THAT'S 20%.

THIS TABLE HERE SHOWS YOU IN 2017, HOW MANY ENCAMPMENT OUTREACH EVENTS WE PROVIDED IN EACH ONE OF YOUR, UH, YOUR DISTRICTS.

SO IN DISTRICT ONE, WE HAD 10.

IN 2017, IN FY 2019, WE HAD 51.

UH, SO THIS GIVES YOU A SENSE OF, UH, HOW MANY AND THE TOTAL.

SO, I WANTED TO ILLUSTRATE THIS JUST TO REALLY SHOW THAT THIS IS HAPPENING IN EVERY DISTRICT, AND WE ARE ADDRESSING IT IN EVERY DISTRICT.

SO, OUR SS A P D OUTREACH TEAM, SS A P D, IS REALLY OUR, OUR FIRST, UH, CONTACT.

AND THEY'RE, THEY ARE AN EXTENSION OF OUR OUTREACH TEAM.

UH, THEY HAVE SOME VERY, UH, SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WORKING WITH US, THE HOPE TEAM, AS WELL AS THE MENTAL HEALTH IMPACT TEAM.

AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE, UH, THE MAJORITY OF HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, SPECIFICALLY UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS, ARE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES.

AND OUR IMPACT TEAM IS, UH, HELPS ADDRESS THAT.

OUR POSITIVE ENCOUNTERS TEAM IS REALLY, UM, THEY DO A REALLY GREAT JOB WITH THEIR PLAIN CLOTHES OFFICERS, OFFICERS, THEY PATROL AROUND DOWNTOWN.

AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY REALLY ASSIST IN INDIVIDUALS, UH, WITH WHATEVER THEY NEED AT THAT TIME.

SO THEY GO TO, UH, IF THEY COME ACROSS A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL, AND THAT INDIVIDUAL SAYS, AND THEY SAYS TO THEM, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GET A SERVICE, BUT YOU KNOW, I NEED, I NEED AN ID.

THEY'VE

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BEEN ABLE TO, TO REALLY HELP WITH RECOVERING TEXAS IDENTIFICATIONS FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS.

THE FIRST STEP IN ANY SERVICE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AS A COMMUNITY IS TO GET SOMEBODY AN IDENTIFICATION CARD.

HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS CANNOT BE HOUSED WITHOUT AN IDENTIFICATION CARD.

THEY CANNOT ENROLL IN SERVICES WITHOUT AN IDENTIFICATION CARD.

THEY CAN'T GET A BIRTH CERTIFICATE WITHOUT IDENTIFICATION CARD.

SO THIS IS A CRITICAL STEP THAT THEY'RE HELPING, UH, PROVIDE FOR US.

THESE ARE SOME NUMBERS.

WE, UH, SINCE 2018, THEY'VE HAD 6,352 CONTACTS, 6,268 REFERRALS, 1,175 TEXAS ID RECOVERIES, UH, AND 400 BIRTH CERTIFICATES THAT ARE ISSUED.

NOW, WE FUND, UM, TO PROCESS, WE FUND, UH, TO PAY FOR IF THEY GO TO THE, UH, BIRTH CERTIFICATE OFFICE.

AND WE, WE FUND THAT SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN PAY FOR THOSE BIRTH CERTIFICATES, BUT THEY REALLY MANAGE THE WHOLE PROCESS IN TERMS OF VERIFYING, UH, SOMEBODY'S IDENTITY.

AND THE WAY THAT WORKS IS IF SOMEBODY HAS BEEN, UM, FINGERPRINTED IN THE PAST, WE CAN EASILY, UH, IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS, UH, AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT, UH, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WILL ACCEPT, AND THEY WILL CREATE, UH, AN IDENTIFICATION CARD FOR US.

OUR, AS WELL AS OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WILL, WILL, WILL, WILL TAKE THAT FOR VITAL RECORDS.

SO, ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE ARE, UH, THAT WE LAUNCHED THIS YEAR, IN ORDER TO TRY TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF ISSUES, YOU KNOW, ONE IS, UH, PANHANDLING, UH, SOMETIMES GETS, UH, CONFLATED WITH, UH, HOMELESS ISSUES.

SO THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HOMELESS THAT PANHANDLE.

WE, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME LOCATIONS WITHIN CITY, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THAT IT'S 100% PANHANDLER.

THEY'RE NOT HOMELESS, BUT THEY DO PANHANDLE.

AND ONE OF THE, THE WAYS THAT, UH, WE, UH, CAME UP WITH, UH, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT IS TO, TO REALLY TRY TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE WAY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COMPASSIONATELY GIVE TO INDIVIDUALS.

UH, THEY MAY NOT, THEY MAY CHOOSE TO GIVE TO PEOPLE INDIRECTLY OR DIRECTLY, BUT THIS IS ANOTHER WAY.

SO WE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT, WELL, I WANT TO CONTINUE TO GIVE.

THAT'S FINE.

UH, WE WANT TO REALLY MAKE AN IM AN IMPACT.

AND WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, HOW CAN WE CRAFT SOMETHING SO THAT, UH, THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE WAY? THE ONLY WAY THAT WE HAVE IS JUST TO GIVE THAT TO THEM DIRECTLY.

SO LET'S, LET'S FIND ANOTHER WAY.

AND THIS IS THE OTHER WAY.

SO IF YOU TEXT SA GIVES TO 4 1 4 4, YOU WILL IMMEDIATELY GET A PROMPT AND YOU CAN MAKE A DONATION.

UH, I PUT SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT DONATIONS CAN, CAN DO FOR INDIVIDUALS.

SO A $10 DONATION CAN PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR SOMEONE.

$15 DONATION HELPS PAY FOR ID RECOVERY FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, $25 DONATION, UM, CAN HELP WITH AN, UH, A MEDICAL SERVICE, $75 ACCESS TO, TO APPLICATION FEES, SECURITY DEPOSITS.

AND THEN $125 CAN HELP WITH UNIT REUNIFICATION, RENTAL, AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HELPING WITH THIS.

SO WE PARTNER WITH THE SOUTH ALAMO REGIONAL ALLIANCE FOR THE HOMELESS TO ACCEPT THE FUNDS.

SO THEY ACCEPT THE FUNDS ON OUR BEHALF, AND THEY ISSUE THESE TO, UH, TO INDIVI, TO PARTNER AGENCIES TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.

THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS THE SERVICE A NEED, AND THAT THAT CAN STILL BE MANAGEABLE.

NOW, I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS NOT ALL ABOUT RAISING FUNDS.

THIS IS ALSO, THIS IS ABOUT, UH, PROVIDING AWARENESS THAT THERE IS, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD AND TO PROVIDING, UH, A DONATION TO SOMEBODY ON THE STREET.

YOU'LL SEE THAT WE, WE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF MEDIA.

OUR KIOSK HAVE THIS MESSAGE IN THIS CAMPAIGN, AS WELL AS OUR VIA, UH, BUS SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE SOME BANNERS THAT ARE RUNNING WITH THOSE AS WELL.

SO, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THOSE TWO PROGRAMS, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, EDWARD, UH, FOR YOUR THOROUGH PRESENTATION.

UM, I FORGOT TO GO OVER THE WELCOME BEFORE WE STARTED THE MEETING.

SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND DO THAT BEFORE WE GET INTO COMMENTS.

SO, FIRST OF ALL, UM, THIS IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE ROAD COMMITTEE MEETING.

SO I WANNA WELCOME, UH, OUR STAFF WHO'S HERE, WHO'S MADE IT ALL THE WAY FROM WHEREVER THEIR OFFICE IS, WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN OR AT ONE OF THE POLICE SUBSTATIONS.

AND TO OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE, UH, JOINED US TONIGHT.

I SEE AT LEAST ONE.

SO THANK YOU FOR FOR JOINING US.

UM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES

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TO BRING GOVERNMENT TO THE PEOPLE.

UM, SO COMING DOWNTOWN DURING THE DAY ISN'T ALWAYS EASY FOR, FOR EVERYONE.

SO WE WANNA BE AVAILABLE.

AND I WANNA THANK, UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, MARIA GOMEZ, LAUREN FISHER WITH, AND, UH, THE GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE, AND OF COURSE, IT, AND OUR TREMENDOUS AUDIO VISUAL TEAM FOR, UH, TAKING PART IN THIS AND MAKING IT HAPPEN.

UM, I ALSO WANT TO THANK, UH, COUNCILWOMAN CAVEO HDA FOR HELPING US FIND THE LOCATION TO HOST TONIGHT'S MEETING AND, UH, FOR WELCOMING US HERE.

SO, COUNCILWOMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA SAY ANY WORDS.

UH, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

HELLO.

GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO DISTRICT SIX.

WE'RE IN THE HEART OF DISTRICT SIX.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT HERE.

I CAME FROM DOWNTOWN, WHICH TELLS YOU HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET FROM DOWNTOWN TO DISTRICT SIX.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I WANNA THANK, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALREADY DID, BUT WANNA THANK THE STUDENT COUNCIL FOR HELPING US HERE TONIGHT AND THEIR, UM, THEIR COORDINATOR, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THEM HELPING US SET UP AND, AND REALLY WELCOMING EVERYBODY OUT HERE TONIGHT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM RIGHT NOW.

OKAY, GREAT.

UH, WELL FOLLOWING UP ON THE PRESENTATION ON, UH, HOMELESS, UH, OUTREACH EFFORTS, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER RIGHT NOW TO COUNCILMAN, UH, PERRY.

HE, UH, REQUESTED THIS ITEM, UH, AND THIS BRIEFING TO OUR COUNCIL COMMITTEE.

SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET HIM, UH, TAKE IT AWAY.

HEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND IT'S GOOD TO BE WAY OUT HERE ACROSS TOWN FROM MY DISTRICT, BUT IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.

UH, THANKS FOR SETTING THIS UP.

UH, YES, I DO HAVE SOME, UH, QUESTIONS ON THE, ON THE BRIEFING, EDWARD.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, AND I'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME POLICE QUESTIONS HERE ALSO, CHIEF.

UM, SO ON SLIDE NUMBER FOUR, LET'S JUST START THERE.

YOU SAY HOMELESS INVESTMENT, 15 MILLION.

THAT'S STRICTLY FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND GRANTS.

THAT'S THE TOTAL PROGRAM.

THIS IS DIRECT FUNDING, GENERAL FUNDING AND GRANTS FOR HOMELESS SERVICES.

NOW, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UM, LET'S SAY, UH, THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SAFE OFFICERS, THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY FUNDED FOR THIS, BUT THE CITY SPENDS ABOUT $35 MILLION, UH, FOR, UM, HOMELESS RESPONSE.

SO THAT INCLUDES THE POLICE, THE SAFE OFFICERS THAT ARE, UH, SPENDING TIME, UH, WITH THE HOMELESS.

IT ALSO INCLUDES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE, UH, RESPONDING TO 9 1 1 CALLS, MOSTLY WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL.

AND THEY'RE NEEDING TRANSPORTS TO HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. SO, UH, THAT INCLUDES THAT AS WELL.

NOW, THIS IS JUST DIRECT FUNDING, DIRECT HOMELESS SERVICES FUNDING.

OKAY.

'CAUSE THE VERY FIRST TIME I ASKED THAT QUESTION, IT WAS 80 MILLION.

NO, BUT THAT WAS WITH FEDERAL AND STATE MONEY AS WELL.

SO THAT, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A, LET ME CLARIFY THAT.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, SO THE COMMUNITY WHEN OUTSIDE THE CITY, THAT'S ABOUT, UH, THAT'S THE NUMBER, THAT $80 MILLION THAT YOU STATED.

NOW THAT, AND IT'S GROWN SINCE 55 MILLION WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS.

ADDITIONAL FUNDS, GRANT FUNDS HAVE COME INTO THE COMMUNITY, UH, PRIMARILY AROUND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

AND, AND VETERAN SUPPORTS THAT THAT NUMBER HAS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY FROM 55 TO, UH, OVER THAT NUMBER.

IT'S CLOSE TO ABOUT, CLOSE TO THE $80 MILLION NOW.

BUT I, BUT IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ITSELF, IT'S $35 MILLION.

OKAY.

BUT YOUR NUMBERS ON SLIDE NUMBER, UM, LEMME SEE.

CAN'T FIND IT HERE.

THAT SHOWS THE TOTAL NUMBERS.

UM, YES.

SLIDE THREE, SLIDE BEFORE THAT.

UH, IT SAYS BEARER COUNTY HOMELESS COUNT.

WHAT IS IT IN SAN ANTONIO? I'M ASSUMING THIS IS FOR ALL OF BEARER COUNTY.

THIS IS FOR ALL OF BEARER COUNTY AND THE MA, WE, I, UM, THE MAJORITY OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, THAT ARE COUNTED, ARE COUNTED WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROPER.

I CAN GET YOU THE BREAKOUT OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS WERE COUNTED THAT ARE NOT IN SAN ANTONIO.

UH, I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE.

THE MAJORITY IN INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE COMING ACROSS IN THIS POINT IN TIME COUNT ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

YEAH.

AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT, BUT I, I WANNA KEEP THIS ALL ON THE SAME APPLES TO APPLES HERE.

UM, SO IN, SO IN BEXAR COUNTY, UH, ARE THEY, ARE THEY PITCHING IN ANY MONEY TO THE HOMELESS POPUL POPULATION? THEY DO POPULATION.

SO BEXAR COUNTY'S, UH, UM, PROVIDES ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS TO, TO HAVEN FOR HOPE.

AND THEN THEY, UH, I DON'T HAVE THEIR BUDGET WITH ME, BUT I KNOW THEY, THEY ARE THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, UH,

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THEY COORDINATE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THEY FUND A NUMBER OF AGENCIES, LIKE CENTER FOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES, ET CETERA, UH, TO PROVIDE THOSE, SO WE CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION ON THE COUNTY'S INVESTMENT.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT'S BASIC, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S JUST A VERY SMALL NUMBER OUT IN THE COUNTY.

UH, BUT THEY'RE PUTTING IN A BIG, BIG NUMBER OF THIS AS WELL.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BREAKOUT ON WHAT THIS $80 MILLION REALLY IS.

SURE.

WHERE'S THAT MONEY COMING FROM AND WHAT'S THAT MONEY GOING TO? UH, WE FUND, UH, A PORTION AND IDT SEE IT, I, YOUR, UH, LIST HERE AND MAY, MAYBE IT'S THE OTHER PROVIDERS, BUT WE PROV WE FUND NON-PROFITS ALSO.

IS THAT WHERE THAT NUMBER IS? 3.2? WE DO.

SO THAT NUMBER IS, UH, HERE, LET ME GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE HERE.

IT'S IN THIS $3.2 MILLION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I, I JUST WANT TO COUCH WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER IS AND WHAT THAT MONEY IS GOING TO, UM, WHETHER IT'S FEDERAL, STATE, OR LOCAL FUNDING OR COUNTY FUNDING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU SAID THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMELESS ARE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S WRAP THIS ALL TOGETHER AND BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE REALLY SPENDING ON THE HOMELESS POPULATION HERE IN TOWN.

SO IF YOU COULD PULL THAT TOGETHER AND SEND THAT BACK OUT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, CHIEF, WHAT'S THE CURRENT, UH, UH, DA POLICY FOR CRIMINAL TRESPASS? YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE FACE THERE WITH THE, I LOOK LIKE A FACE .

SO THE, THE DA'S POLICY THERE, THERE'S FOR HOMELESS, CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING? YES.

SO IF WE TRESPASSING OFF THE TABLE, I'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN A MINUTE, BUT ANY CHARGE THAT A HOMELESS PERSON IS ARRESTED FOR WILL BE FILED LIKE ANY OTHER CHARGE.

IF THE PERSON IS ARRESTED FOR TRESPASSING, IF IT'S ON, UM, LIKE A, LIKE A, A WALMART PARKING LOT OR, UM, UH, A VIA BUS BENCH, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE BEEN TRESPASSED OFF, THE DA WILL NOT PROSECUTE THOSE CASES.

THEY'LL REJECT THEM AT, THEY'LL REJECT, THEY WERE REJECTING THEM AT, AT MAGISTRATION, NOW THEY'RE WAITING 48 HOURS BEFORE THEY REJECT THEM.

OKAY.

BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT, I I JUST SAW THE DA, UH, THIS LAST WEEKEND, AND HE PORTRAYED IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, THAT, UH, THEY ARE ARRESTING AND JAILING, UM, FOLKS FOR CRIMINAL TRESPASS, AND THAT ANY OFFICER THAT BRINGS 'EM DOWN, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE 'EM, PROCESS 'EM, AND PUT 'EM IN JAIL.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

THE LITTLE FACE THERE.

THERE YOU GO.

THE LITTLE FACE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

SORRY.

YES, SIR.

NO, I APOLOGIZE.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DA'S OFFICE, UH, DURING THE TRANSITION, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THEIR POLICIES.

AND SO I THINK WHAT THE CHIEF WAS ALLUDING TO IS THAT WITH REGARDS TO THE CRIMINAL TRESPASS POLICY, IF WE'RE DEALING WITH SOMEONE WHO IS SIM IS HOMELESS AND THERE'S ABSENT ANY OTHER FACTORS, IF THEY ARE, WHAT THEY WERE SEEING IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE TRESPASSING, EITHER AT A BUNK, UH, BUS BENCH, UM, OR A PUBLIC SPACE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, UH, WHEN THEY ROLLED IT OUT INITIALLY, THERE WAS SOME BUMPS IN THE ROAD.

UH, GRANTED THEY DIDN'T, UH, COMMUNICATE THAT VERY WELL.

I THINK THEY'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT.

BUT SINCE THEN, UM, THEY'VE, UM, THEY'VE REALLY COMMUNICATED THEIR POLICY CLEARLY, AND THE PERSON THAT IS ARRESTED IS, IS GOING TO BE HELD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AND DIVERTED TO A MENTAL HEALTH TYPE TREATMENT PROGRAM SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE APPROPRIATE SERVICES IF, IF THEY'RE NEEDED.

UM, A LOT OF TIMES THE, THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY'RE HOMELESS.

THEY DON'T WANT THESE SERVICES, BUT THEY'RE OFFERED TO THEM ANYWAY.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A VERY NARROWLY TAILORED, UH, CRIMINAL TRESPASS POLICY.

IF THEY'VE GOT A VIOLENT HISTORY, THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE.

IF THEY'RE TRESPASSING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE.

IF THEY'RE COMMITTED ANOTHER CRIME, THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE.

OKAY.

I, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA GET TO IS WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC POLICY BY THE DA TODAY? YES, SIR.

BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT KIND OF VACILLATE BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING HERE AT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

SO THIS IS A, UH, I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

UH, I'M STILL GETTING A LOT OF, A LOT

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OF CONCERNS AND PROBLEMS AND COMPLAINTS ACROSS DISTRICT 10 THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE SLEEPING ON BUSINESSES DOORS, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BUSINESS.

THEY CAN'T CONDUCT BUSINESS THAT WAY IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS, YOU KNOW, IN COMMUNITY SPACES.

UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE BIG CONCERN IS.

AND THAT'S WHAT I, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS HAS BEEN COMMUNI COMMUNICATED TO ALL THE SUBS OUT THERE, ALL, ALL THE DIFFERENT SUBS LIKE THE NORTH SUB AND EAST WEST.

AND, UH, IF I, I MAY WHEN YOU WRAP UP YOUR STATEMENT, OKAY.

UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR OFFICERS OUT THERE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CURRENT POLICY IS, BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE HEARD IT GO BACK AND FORTH, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONFUSION OUT THERE BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF BUSINESSES AND HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE THAT HAVE HEARD THE STORIES ABOUT, WELL, THEY CAN PICK 'EM UP AND TAKE 'EM DOWNTOWN, AND THEY'RE RELEASED RIGHT AWAY, AND IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD TO, TO ARREST 'EM, UH, ON, ON CRIMINAL TRESPASS.

SO, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT, THAT THAT'S BEING COMMUNICATED VERY CLEARLY ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS TO THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, AND IT, IT GOES ALONG WITH THE STATEMENT THAT THE ONLY POLICIES THAT WE AND SS A P D NEED TO WORRY ABOUT ARE OUR OWN POLICIES, NOT THE DA'S POLICIES.

OKAY.

AND OUR POLICY IS TO ARREST.

TO ARREST, YES.

AND TAKE 'EM DOWNTOWN, AND THEN IT'S HANDED OFF TO, YES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, GREAT.

WELL, THAT, THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

AND, UM, UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS, BUT GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

YES, MA'AM.

SO IF YOU HAVE TO TURN OFF, ONE OF YOU HAS TO TURN OFF YOUR MICS, SO, SO WE CAN ONLY HAVE TWO MICS ON AT A TIME.

SO IF, UH, AFTER YOU'VE SPOKEN, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST TURNING IT OFF AND JUST TAP IT IN WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S TIME TO TALK.

THANK YOU.

JUST SO WE CAN ALL INTERRUPT EACH OTHER.

UH, SO IF I MAY MAKE A, A SUGGESTION, UH, REGARDING THE, THE DA'S POLICIES VERSUS OUR POLICIES, UH, VERY CLEAR CHIEF, YOUR PO OUR POLICIES ARE GOING TO BE OUR POLICIES.

UM, I, IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO REQUEST A MEMO FROM THE DA, UH, EXPLAINING THE, THE POLICY THAT WE CAN DISTRIBUTE TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE, ON THE COMMITTEE, AND THEN WE CAN, UM, USE THAT FOR REFERENCE.

YES, COUNCILMAN, WE WILL, UH, MAKE THAT REQUEST OF THE DA.

OH, WE HAVE IT.

WE'LL PROVIDE IT TO, UH, THE COMMITTEE.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN, PLEASE CONTINUE.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME WHERE I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDER A DIFFERENT IMPRESSION RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET THAT BACK OUT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, EDWARD, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT CLEANUP.

OKAY.

UM, I HEARD YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT CLEANING UP AND I, I'M ASSUMING T C I CLEANS UP THESE, UH, CAMPSITES.

THEY DO.

SO, UM, BEFORE WE CLEAN UP, WE, WE DO, UH, OUTREACH.

I WANT TO, UH, EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT WE ARE PROVIDING OUTREACH TO INDIVIDUALS UP TO 48 HOURS BEFORE THE DAY THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY DO, UH, RESTORATION, RIGHT? SO WE WOULD GO AND OFFER SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS, UH, 20% OF THEM SAY YES.

UM, AND ON THE DAY OF THE CLEANUP, T C I ACTUALLY DOES ALL OF THAT WORK FOR US.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

AND EXPLAIN TO ME AGAIN, IF IT'S ON PUBLIC PROPERTY VERSUS PRIVATE PROPERTY, HOW, HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? RIGHT.

SO IF THERE IS AN ENCAMPMENT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, UH, WE INVOLVE OUR CODE COMPLIANCE OR, UH, DIVISION WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT ASSISTS US.

THEY TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.

AND, UH, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CITATION OR ISSUE THAT HAS WITH, UH, THAT ARE OUT OF, UH, COMPLIANCE, THEY WOULD TALK TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

NOW, IF THOSE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS DO NOT HAVE THE MECHANISM TO CLEAN THOSE, IN SOME CASES, WE CLEAN THOSE AND THEN WE CHARGE THE BACK, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, BASED ON THEIR STA UH, UH, PROCESS.

AND, UM, BUT IF IT'S IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY, THE MAJORITY ARE, ARE IN CITY RIGHT AWAY, THEN WE, OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS PROVIDE THAT CLEANUP.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, COUNCILWOMAN AND COUNCILMAN, UH, PER, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE, UH, UM, ADD A COMMENT TO WHAT EDWARD JUST MENTIONED, AND MAYBE THE CHIEF WANTS TO CHIME IN.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS, UH, RECOMMENDING TO, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS OF,

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UH, PRIVATE PROPERTY TO DISPLAY NO TRESPASSING SIGNS IN THEIR PROPERTY, SO THAT WAY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN ENFORCE IF SOMEBODY IS, IS WANTING TO DO AN ENCAMPMENT, AND IT'LL FACILITATE AND, AND HOPEFULLY MITIGATE THE, THOSE, THE NUMBER OF ENCAMPMENTS.

WELL, UM, I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT.

I HAD A, UM, ACTUALLY A UNIVERSITY COME IN AND JUST TO CLEAN UP THEIR PROPERTY, $10,000.

I THINK THAT'S WAY, WAY ABOVE WHAT THE CITY SHOULD BE TICKETING PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO CLEAN UP AFTER THE HOMELESS POPULATION.

NOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE SPENDING $10,000 A WHACK, I, I SAID, THAT'S CRAZY.

UH, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY INSANE THAT WE'RE EXPECTING A, A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER TO CLEAN UP AFTER A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE LET HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

WELL, THAT WAS A COMMENT.

I WAS JUST GONNA JUMP IN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION.

SO THIS IS MIKE SHANNON, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, UH, WITH CODE, UH, ENFORCEMENT UNDERNEATH US.

SO CERTAINLY AS A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, ANY TRASH, DEBRIS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S A CHALLENGING SITUATION.

WE DO TALK WITH THEM, UH, BUT IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY PER OUR CITY AND STATE CODE TO ENSURE THAT THAT STUFF IS CLEANED UP.

UH, SOME OF THOSE ARE BIG NUMBERS.

IF IT'S A PRETTY BIG SIZE ENCAMPMENT, CERTAINLY WE WILL, UH, WORK WITH EDWARD AND HIS TEAM AND ACTUALLY THE WHOLE TEAM.

'CAUSE IT'S A MULTI-DEPARTMENT EFFORT, UH, TO, TO REACH OUT TO THE, UH, INDIVIDUALS.

UH, BUT ALSO, UH, IT IS OUR JOB TO HELP ENSURE THAT GETS CLEANED UP.

UH, AND RIGHT NOW, AS PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT.

SOME OF THEM CANNOT.

AND CERTAINLY WE WILL JUMP IN AND DO THAT, BUT VERY SIMILAR TO A LOT OF OUR ABATEMENTS.

UH, WE THEN WILL BILL THEM BACK, UH, FOR THAT SERVICE THAT WE JUST PROVIDED THEM AS PROPERTY OWNERS.

OKAY.

WELL, I I THINK THAT'S STILL WORTH MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

UM, IF WE'RE GETTING, AND I'M GONNA USE THAT TOLL NUMBER AGAIN, THAT $80 MILLION A YEAR, I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE FUNDING THE MESSES THAT ARE BEING LEFT OUT THERE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

I MEAN, I'VE GOT NEIGHBORHOODS OUT THERE THAT ARE GETTING OUT THERE, WHICH I CONSIDER A DANGEROUS SITUATION OF THEM TRYING TO PICK STUFF UP BY HAND AND CART IT OFF AND PUTTING ON THE BACK OF TRUCKS AND THEN GETTING IT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, HALL PLACES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S DRUG PARA PARAPHERNALIA, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ALL HUMAN WASTE.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS OUT THERE THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE EXPOSING OUR NEIGHBORS TO OUT THERE.

BUT YET, WHERE CAN THEY COME UP WITH A THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GET IT CLEAN, WHETHER THEY CONTRACT IT OUT OR GO THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO GET CLEANED UP.

I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT, MARIA, AS TO WHAT OTHER KIND OF ASSISTANCE WE CAN GIVE, UH, OUT OF THIS TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO PRIVATE, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.

IT, TO ME, IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY TOO COSTLY, BUT IT'S ALSO DANGEROUS FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.

UM, SO THAT THOSE, THOSE WERE MY MAJOR CONCERNS AND, UM, WOULD LIKE THE FOLLOW UP ON THE, UH, THE DA POLICY, UM, THE BREAKOUT OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING INTO SAN ANTONIO AND, UH, UH, HOW THAT, WHERE THAT'S BEING DISTRIBUTED AT AND WHO'S EXECUTING WHAT AND TAKING ANOTHER CLOSE LOOK AT THIS CLEANUP OF THESE ENCAMPMENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN PERRY.

UM, I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO COUNCILWOMAN, UH, JADA.

ANDREW SULLIVAN.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, SO AT WORK, YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST STAY THERE, .

UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE OF THE BREAKDOWN WHEN IT COMES TO SHELTERED AND UNSHELTERED, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING HAVEN FOR HOPE QUITE A BIT.

DO THOSE NUMBERS OF SHELTERED INCLUDE ALL OF THE SHELTERS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO, SUCH AS THE SAM'S MINISTRY AND YES.

THE SALVATION ARMY, AND THESE ARE THE TOTAL SHELTERED AND SHELTERED INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

THE LARGEST IS HAVEN FOR HOPE.

OKAY.

SO DO WE HAVE THE NUMBERS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE OTHER SHELTERS WHEN IT COMES TO THE ONES THAT ARE FAMILY, UM, UNITS? YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN GET YOU THAT BREAKOUT SPECIFICALLY TO EACH ONE OF THE SHELTERS.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE SHELTERS, LIKE, UH, SALVATION ARMY HAS A MULTIPLE SHELTERS.

WE CAN GET YOU THAT BREAKOUT ON

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WHERE EVERYONE WAS COUNTED, UH, ON THAT NIGHT.

SO THAT'S EASILY, AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN UNDER THE, THE VETERANS PROGRAM, AND I KNOW THAT WE, AS A CITY, WERE SHOOTING FOR 0% HOMELESS VETERANS.

HOW MANY VASH VOUCHERS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN THE LAST 90 DAYS? SO, VASH VOUCHER IS INTERESTING.

SO THE VASH VOUCHERS, YOU TYPICALLY TURN OVER ABOUT 10 TO 15 EVERY MONTH.

SO WITHIN A THIR A 90 DAY PERIOD, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT 45 VOUCHERS THAT HAVE TURNED OVER TO VETERANS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE SYSTEM.

UH, THERE'S ABOUT, UH, 680 VOUCHERS IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.

AND THOSE VOUCHERS, UH, TRANSITION ABOUT 10 A MONTH.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

AND THEN, UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE DISPLACEMENT, UM, SERVICES.

AND HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH TEMPTING TO LOWER THIS NUMBER WHEN IT COMES TO FAMILIES AND REALLY KEEPING THEM WITHIN THE HOMES THAT THEY'RE IN UNDER THE, UH, DEVELOP OR THE DISPLACEMENT SERVICES? HOW ARE YOU WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT? SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THAT WE ADDRESS.

UH, THIS, WE, WE FUND, UM, A NUMBER OF AGENCIES FOR, FOR PREVENTION SERVICES.

SO IF SOME, UH, RESIDENT HAS AN EVICTION NOTICE, WE PROVIDE FUNDING FOR, UH, THROUGH OUR DELEGATE AGENCY PROCESS FOR, UH, AGENCIES.

SAM MINISTRIES IS ONE THAT PROVIDES, UH, PREVENTIONS PREVENTATIVE SERVICES TO THE SAME, WELL, I HAVE AN EVICTION NOTICE.

UM, AND WE PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PAY THEIR RENTS FROM THEM TO PREVENT THEM FROM BECOMING HOMELESS, AS WELL AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVE THE, UH, THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH, UH, THE EMERGENCY, UH, SHELTER GRANT.

AND THEY PROVIDE THAT SAME PREVENTIVE, UH, SUPPORTS THROUGH THEIR FAIR FAIR HOUSING PROGRAM THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

SO THERE IS, UH, THAT'S, THAT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE STRATEGIES, UM, UH, TO, TO HELP ADDRESS, UH, THAT, THAT THOSE FAMILIES.

THE OTHER BIG ISSUE IS THAT TO THE MAYOR'S HOUSING PO UH, TASK FORCE, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

IN SOME CASES, THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT AS WE GET, UH, AN APPLICATION, OUR CASE MANAGERS ARE REVIEWING THAT APPLICATION SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA ASSIST YOU WITH, WITH, UH, RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

RIGHT? BUT WE ARE NOTICING THAT YOU'RE PAYING MORE THAN YOUR 30% OF, OF YOUR ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME.

SO HOW CAN WE FIND A BETTER LOCATION, UH, OR A LOCATION FOR YOU TO, TO LOWER THAT, TO REALLY TRY TO ALIGN YOU WITHIN THAT 30%.

SO I THINK THROUGH THOSE STRATEGIES, THAT'S HOW WE ARE ADDRESSING AND REALLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS TAKING THE LEAD, UH, WITH THAT.

AWESOME.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALSO, UM, IN DISTRICT TWO GETTING READY TO LAUNCH A PROJECT OF THE TINY, UM, HOME DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CHARITY WORKER HOUSE.

AND SO, UM, HOW IS THAT COMING TO PLAY WITHIN, UM, THE SPECTRUM OF THE FULL SAN ANTONIO LOOK OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THE HOMELESS PROGRAM AS WELL? SO THAT, THAT'S A PROJECT THAT, UH, I SUPPORT AND WE SUPPORT.

I THINK, UM, THERE, THERE'S TWO POPULATIONS THAT THEY'RE REALLY GONNA HELP ADDRESS.

ONE IS OUR CHRONIC HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, UH, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

THERE, THERE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS HOUSING FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED SOME TYPE OF SERVICE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.

FOR US, IT'S NOT A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

THEY MAY BE IN THESE UNITS FOR YEARS, AND WHAT THEY'RE FOCUSED ON IS, I BELIEVE THERE'S ABOUT 150 UNITS.

UH, I, I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES WITH ME, BUT IT'S ABOUT THAT.

AND THEY'RE GONNA FOCUS WITH SENIORS.

SO WE HAVE BEEN SEEING A NUMBER OF SENIORS THAT ARE AGING OUT IN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN SHELTER.

AND THIS WOULD HELP THEM AGE IN A BETTER PLACE.

THEY'RE FOCUSED ON SE THEY CAN BE, PROVIDE, UH, WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT OUR OWN ARE, ARE AGE APPROPRIATE, RIGHT.

FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AND ARE AGING OVER 55, I BELIEVE IS THE, IS THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA.

SO IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A NEED AND IT'S REALLY GONNA HELP ME, UH, FURTHER REDUCE THAT CHRONIC NUMBER THERE.

AWESOME.

AND, AND BACK TO COUNCILMAN PERRY'S, UM, QUESTION AND HIS INPUT.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE FUNDING, ARE THERE ANY FEDERAL GRANTS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT GETTING FOR SPECIFICALLY THE ENCAMPMENT AND THE ENCAMPMENT CLEANUPS? ARE THERE ANY FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT CAN GO INTO THAT PROGRAM THAT WOULD AID IN KIND OF TAKING ALL OF THE BURDEN THAT WE AS A CITY ARE PROVIDING SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT CLEANUP? THERE IS, I THINK COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK THAT OUR EMERGENCY SHELTER GRANT, THERE IS SOME OUTREACH.

UH, IT'S AN ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY.

UNFORTUNATELY AT THIS POINT, WE'RE USING OUR EMERGENCY SHELTER GRANT FOR PREVENTION.

SO WE FEEL THAT THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE TO, UH, HELP PREVENT

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AND REALLY FOCUS UPSTREAM, NOT GET MORE PEOPLE IN THE PIPE.

BUT, SO WE ARE GONNA REALLY HAVE TO LOOK, UH, CREATIVELY AT, AT WAYS TO ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDS WITHIN OUR, OUR COMPLIMENT OF THE MULTIMILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND A LOT OF THAT IS, IS ABOUT PREVENTION, RIGHT? SO I THINK, UH, INCREASING OUR MENTAL HEALTH, UH, GRANTS TO HELP SUPPORT, UH, PRE-CRISIS CLINIC, PRE PRE-CRISIS URGENT CARE CLINIC.

UH, BUT YES, SO UNFORTUNATELY THE AVAILABLE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US AT THIS POINT, UM, ARE IN, THAT ARE IN THAT PREVENTATIVE SPACE NOW.

WE, WE DO EVALUATE US THROUGH OUR CONSOLIDATED FUNDING PROCESS AND WE SHIFT PRIORITIES, UH, IN, IN MARCH WE WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL TO HELP SET THOSE PRIORITIES FOR THE NEW PROCESS, FOR THE NEW TWO YEAR CYCLE.

AND THAT'S AN A TIME WHEN, WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE TO, TO, TO REPRIORITIZE PREVENTION, TO, UM, TO HELP ASSIST WITH OUTREACH.

AWESOME.

AND THEN, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU CHIEF, AS FAR AS WITH OUR SAFE OFFICERS.

I KNOW WITHIN DISTRICT TWO THERE WAS 57 ENCAMPMENTS.

ARE THERE ANY SWEEPS OF THOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE SPECIFIC CONTINUOUS AREAS OF ENCAMPMENTS OR BECAUSE THEY KIND OF MOVE, UM, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE KIND OF THE ROUTINE THAT OUR SAFE OFFICERS ARE DOING WITH THOSE ENCAMPMENTS? THEY, UH, THEY LOOK OUT FOR THEM.

AND WHEN THEY SEE THEM GOING UP, YOU KNOW, THEN THE, THE ALARM IS SOUNDED SO TO SPEAK, AND THEN THEY MOVE TO, UH, MOVE IN TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND BREAK THOSE CAMPS DOWN.

AWESOME.

AND AS THEY ARE CONTINUOUSLY MOVING, UM, ARE THERE ANY BARRIERS OR ANY KIND OF FEATURES THAT ARE GOING UP? THE ONES THAT ARE CONTINUOUSLY USED, SUCH AS WITHIN THE EMBANKMENTS AND THE DRAINAGE DISH DITCHES? NO, THEY JUST, THEY JUST HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF IT IS WHAT THEY DO.

I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY TO PREDICT WHERE THE NEXT ONE'S GONNA GO UP, BUT THEY'RE JUST OBSERVANT FOR WHEN THEY DO.

AND, AND THEN THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, THANK YOU COUNSEL.

THANK YOU.

WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? THE, UH, THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE BREAK THEM DOWN STARTS.

OKAY.

AND THEN COUNCILMAN, CAN I JUMP IN JUST A SECOND? YES.

SO I KNOW THERE ARE AREAS, UH, AND ENCAMPMENTS THAT WE'VE GONE TO MULTIPLE TIMES, RIGHT? SO TO PROVIDE OUTREACH TO SOME OF THOSE ARE IN, UH, DRAINAGE CULVERTS AND, UH, THROUGH OUR STORM WATER DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WAYS THAT WE CAN MAYBE PUT SOME BARS, RIGHT, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN'T GET IN THAT, BECAUSE IT'S VERY DANGEROUS TO BE IN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT WHEN THERE'S A FLOOD.

UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT UNIQUE WAYS TO DO THAT, SO TO KEEP INDIVIDUALS FROM GOING IN THESE, UH, PLACES THAT ARE NOT MEANT FOR HUMANS TO BE IN.

UM, SO THERE ARE SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW TO DO THAT.

IN SOME CASES, WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH TECH DOTS IN AREAS THAT ARE RIGHT AWAY SO THAT SOMETIMES IT'S TECH DOT RIGHT AWAY.

BUT THERE IS SOME, SOME AREAS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THAT.

NOW, I THINK, UH, BE AS WE, AS WE MOVE ALONG, I THINK IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT CONSTANT CONTACT.

SO FOR US, CONTINUED OUTREACH AND FOLLOWING THE INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T ACCEPT TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND TO CONTINUE TO DELIVER WHEN PEOPLE DO ACCEPT.

SO THE 20% THAT DO ACCEPT, WE HAVE TO DELIVER ON THE PROMISE OF GETTING THEM INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN THE QUESTION THAT COMES TO THE ID, UH, REPLACEMENT, I KNOW FOR DRIVER'S LICENSE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IF THEY HAVE TICKETS OR FROM THE MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEM, THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THAT UNTIL THAT FINE OR, OR THAT IS LIFTED.

UM, SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE IDS, ARE WE HAVING ANY TROUBLE WITH ACTUALLY GETTING THEM AN ID BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE HOLES OR SOME OF THE FINES THAT THEY HAVE ON THEM, OR BECAUSE THERE'S A RESTRICTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? AWESOME.

OKAY.

NO, MA'AM.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND COUNCILWOMAN, UH, GDA, THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, THE, IN REGARDS TO MY COLLEAGUE'S QUESTION ABOUT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY COSTS, UM, JUST, UH, TELL ME, IS IT FAIR TO SAY PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS SHOULD, UM, SECURE THEIR PROPERTY TO ELIMINATE, UM, OR THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS COMING ONTO THEIR PROPERTY? YEAH.

SO AS SOON AS AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, IS AWARE THAT THERE IS HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY SHOULD REACH OUT TO US, AND WE WILL MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS.

WE'LL PROVIDE THE OUTREACH BEFORE IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE THERE IS, UM, A BILL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, $10,000 OR THERE'S

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A, AN AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF DEBRIS IN THERE.

SOME OF THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOT LOCAL, RIGHT? SO WE'VE SEEN, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE NOT LOCAL AND THEY'RE NOT AWARE OF THE ISSUE AND THERE'S NO WAY TO CONTACT THEM.

BUT IN MOST CASES, I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE'RE HERE TO HELP.

SO WE ARE HELPING INDIVIDUAL PRI PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND IF IT'S RIGHT, I I'LL, THERE'S NO FENCE.

LET'S SAY THERE'S NO FENCE, RIGHT? WE ARE, AND WE'RE IN THIS AREA.

WE'RE PROVIDING, UH, UM, A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, CLEA CLEAN UP, WE'RE GONNA CLEAN THAT AREA AS WELL.

AND THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE FOOT IN, WE'RE NOT MEASURING THE LINE THERE.

UH, AND WE'RE ALSO HELPING INDIVIDUALS TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED YOUR HELP.

YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

SO WE ARE DOING THAT OUTREACH FOR THEM.

IN MOST CASES THAT WE GET THOSE CALLS, THEY'RE EARLY, SO THERE IS NO DEBRIS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, THERE'S JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME GUYS ARE HANGING OUT THAT THEY CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FINDS OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? IF IT'S A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY COORDINATE WITH US, AND THEN WE, WE PROVIDE THAT OUTREACH.

SO THE INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S PERSONAL PROPERTY ARE, THEY'RE USUALLY ABANDONED VACANT PROPERTIES.

IT'S NOT SOMEBODY THAT'S LIVING IN THEIR HOME.

IT'S NOT, UH, A PROPERTY THAT, UH, IS AN ACTIVE BUSINESS.

THEY'RE USUALLY VACANT PROPERTIES THAT ARE CLOSED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, AND PEOPLE HAVE MOVED INTO THOSE LOCATIONS.

OKAY.

UM, I MEAN, MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT, THAT KIND OF TRAIN OF THINKING IS THAT, UH, IT SHOULDN'T BE INCUMBENT UPON OUR TAXPAYERS, OUR CONSTITUENTS TO FOOT THE BILL FOR A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, THAT MAYBE ISN'T LOCAL OR FOR WHATEVER REASON, DOESN'T SEE THE, UM, THE, THE PROBLEM INCREASING OVER TIME.

UM, SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU'RE SAYING THAT, AND WE'RE, I MEAN, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR WE'RE NOT ALSO NOT TRYING TO MAKE A PROFIT OFF IT, RIGHT? WE'RE BEING, OUR COSTS ARE REASONABLE , WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE AREA CLEANED UP.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

SO, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN, UH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN.

UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN.

SO YES, WE, WE, WE BILL THEM FOR THE COST THAT WE, UH, GIVE TO THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE HAVE ON, UH, CONTRACT.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT A PROFIT MAKING THING.

WE WOULDN'T EVER WANT TO DO THAT, OF COURSE.

AND I WILL JUST SHARE WITH YOU, SO PART OF OUR JOB IN, IN, IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WORLD IS WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE EQUALLY AS FRUSTRATED ON THIS ISSUE, SAID, HOW, UH, HOW IS THE CITY LETTING, UH, MAYBE PEOPLE TRESPASS? HOW CAN THE CITY IMPROVE THE POLICING OF, UM, AND THIS IS CODE ENFORCEMENT OF POLICE OR ANY OF US, UH, KEEPING PEOPLE OFF MY PROPERTY.

WE DO ALSO WORK WITH THEM ON, ON MORE PERMANENT WAYS, WHETHER IT BE FENCES OR ANY, ANY TYPE OF WAYS, UH, FOR THEM TO, UH, SECURE THEIR PROPERTY.

THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE ILLEGAL DUMPING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE.

SO PEOPLE MAY HAVE ILLEGAL DUMPING ON THEIR PROPERTY, AND THEY, UH, THEY ASK US HOW THEY CAN FIX THAT OR PERMANENTLY STOP IT.

SO WE WILL JUST, UH, TRY TO COUNSEL THEM ON SOME WAYS THAT WE SEEN EFFECTIVE, AND, AND SOME CHOOSE TO DO THAT.

SOME CHOOSE TO COME DOWN AND, AND, AND PULL A FENCE PERMIT TO SECURE THEIR PROPERTY.

UM, AND THEN WE TRY TO WORK TOGETHER ON THAT.

BUT, UH, THAT'S KIND OF THE STRATEGY WE USE, UH, WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THEM IN THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES.

SO, AND, AND JUST QUICKLY, SINCE YOU'RE ON THE SUBJECT, I WANT A QUICK SHOUT OUT TO OUR, UM, S C P D, OUR SAFE OFFICERS.

I THINK I SAW OFFICER, UM, VA HERE EARLIER, OFFICER HYEN, UM, IN DISTRICT SIX THERE.

AND, AND OUR CODE OFFICERS, THEY'RE DOING A FANTASTIC, A REALLY PHENOMENAL JOB I THINK OF, OF DEALING WITH THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUE HERE IN DISTRICT SIX.

I THINK IT'S SLIDE, UM, SIX THAT SHOWS THE TREMENDOUS INCREASE IN, IN DISTRICT SIX.

UH, I THINK WE'RE TIED FOR SECOND IN THE CITY WITH THE NUMBER OF, UM, ENCAMPMENT, UM, OUTREACH EVENTS WHERE AT 65, WHERE TWO YEARS AGO WE WERE AT SEVEN.

SO PART OF, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS SOMEWHAT SPECULATIVE AND I HAVE MY OWN THEORY ABOUT WHY IT, UH, WHAT'S INCREASING IN DISTRICT SIX, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ABOUT THAT? WHY, OR EVEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY? I DO.

MM-HMM.

, UH, I THINK, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING.

MM-HMM.

, SO INDIVIDUALS, I, I, I STILL FEEL THAT THIS, WE ARE NOT, WE ARE NOT SEEING AN INCREASE IN STREET HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.

I THINK IT'S, IT'S SEVEN AROUND 700 INDIVIDUALS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

BUT IN YEARS PAST, THEY WERE VER UH, HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE LIVING IN ENCAMPMENTS DID NOT WANT TO BE FOUND.

THEY'RE VERY, UH, SECLUDED.

THEY WANNA BE LEFT ALONE.

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE PROVIDED OUTREACH.

SO THEY'RE IN WOODED AREAS, IN AREAS THAT ARE, NO ONE CAN SEE IN SOME CASES DRAINAGE, CULVERTS.

'CAUSE YOU PASS RIGHT BY THEM AND YOU DON'T SEE 'EM, AND THEY COULD EASILY WALK TO THE CORNER STORE AND GET SOMETHING TO DRINK AND THEN GO BACK DOWN.

UH, SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT.

I THINK, UH, DEVELOPMENT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT.

SO AS, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BEING DEVELOPED AND AS INFRASTRUCTURE'S BEING DEVELOPED, THOSE VACANT PROPERTIES ARE NO LONGER VACANT, AND THERE'S, UH, AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS TEND TO ARE MOVING OUT.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE ARE BEING MORE VISIBLE ABOUT REPORTING THAT MM-HMM.

, I THINK, UM, UH, WE ARE GETTING AN, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CALLS FROM COUNCIL OFFICES AS WELL AS FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS DIRECTLY TO US SAYING, HEY, WE HAVE THIS ISSUE.

SO IT'S, THERE'S AN AWARENESS, UH, ABOUT IT AS WELL.

UM,

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SO I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THERE'S A, AN INCREASE.

I THINK THERE'S A, AN AWARENESS NOW AND WE ARE, ARE DOING OUR, OUR ABSOLUTE BEST TO, TO PROVIDE THOSE OUTREACH SERVICES TO THEM.

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.

THAT'S MY THEORY.

SO WE'RE ALWAYS RIGHT.

UM, I THINK THAT, UH, THERE'S SO MUCH GROWTH OUT HERE IN DISTRICT SIX, OR WE, WE, I, I GREW UP OUT HERE.

IT WAS LIKE LIVING IN THE COUNTRY FOR SO LONG, AND I THINK THAT NOW WE HAVE SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE SORT OF BEING DRIVEN OUT INTO OTHER AREAS.

AND I ALSO NOTICED, I'M TIED FOR A SECOND WITH COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHERE THERE WAS ALSO A LOT OF GROWTH.

RIGHT.

SO I THINK THAT WE ARE CORRECT.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, BUT, UM, SO, UH, JUST A, A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

UM, CAN YOU, OR DO YOU HAVE AN, UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW WE ARE LOOKING FOR ENCAMPMENTS ALONG THE CREEK WAYS? WE HAVE A, A GOOD NUMBER OF, A GOOD STRETCH OF LINEAR PARK IN DISTRICT SIX.

AND SO WE, WE HAVE THAT ISSUE HERE.

YEAH.

SO OUR PARK, DEPAR PARKS DEPARTMENT HELPS WITH THAT.

SO THEY, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TITLE IS, BUT THEY HAVE, UH, CREEK MANAGERS OR TRAIL STEWARDS.

OKAY.

AND THEY ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE DRIVING ALONG THOSE TRAILS AND THEY'RE NOTIFYING US WHEN THEY ENCOUNTER THOSE, UH, ENCAMPMENTS.

OKAY.

SO THE TRAIL STEWARDS ARE, ARE THE TRAIL STEWARDS? YES.

AND WE, AND, UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS PART OF OUR TEAM.

UH, THEY DON'T GO OUT ON ANY, UH, ALL OF THE, THE, THE VISITS, BUT ALL THE ONES IN THE PARKS, THEY DO.

SO THEY, THEY, THEY REALLY TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT AND THEY, AND WE HELP, UH, AS WE DO THOSE, UH, CLEANUPS FOR THEM.

OKAY.

OR OUTREACH EVENTS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, CAN, CAN YOU PROVIDE US, UH, IN THE FUTURE WITH PERIODIC UPDATES FROM THE ALTERNATIVE, UH, GIVING CAMPAIGN? ABSOLUTELY.

I, I THINK THIS IS A CAMPAIGN THAT, UM, UH, AS TIME GOES ON, IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE, UH, UH, USED.

I THINK AT FIRST WE HAD A SLOW START, SO, UH, AGAIN, I, I WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT, UH, OR REITERATE THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, TO, TO GENERATE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HERE.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO INCREASE THE AWARENESS, UH, THAT, THAT THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO, TO GIVING, UH, UH, DIRECTLY TO INDIVIDUALS ON THE STREET.

I'M SURE MY, MY COLLEAGUES WOULD AGREE WITH ME.

BUT WHATEVER, UH, GRAPHICS YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT WE CAN SHARE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT TO OUR ABSOLUTELY.

AND AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THAT CAMPAIGN.

AND CAN WE EXPECT TO HAVE ENCAMPMENT RECIDIVISM, UM, RESULTS IN, IN TIME FOR THE NEXT BUDGETING SESSION? YES.

OKAY.

WE COULD DO THAT.

OKAY.

WONDERFUL.

UM, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, WE DO HAVE ONE, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO'D LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

WE HAVE MR. MICHAEL CORMAN'S.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES, SIR.

AND, UH, OUR CLERK WILL TIME YOU.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU.

UM, AGAIN, MY NAME IS MICHAEL CORMAN.

SO I'VE GOT A BUSINESS ON THE, IN DISTRICT SIX.

I'M A CONSTITUENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN, BUT, UM, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU ANOTHER ANGLE.

AS A BUSINESS OWNER WHO TAKES PRIDE, I'M ON THE WEST SIDE AND I KEEP MY PROPERTY CLEAN AND STUFF, BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND BUY PROPERTIES FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES.

AND ALL THEY DO IS BOARD UP THE BUILDING.

THEY DON'T CUT THE GRASS.

THEY DO THE VERY MINIMAL BECAUSE IT'S FOR AN INVESTMENT.

SO IT REALLY BRINGS OUR PROPERTY DOWN AND MAKES THE, WE, THE ONES THAT DEAL WITH THE, THE HOMELESS OR THE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DRUG PEOPLE, SOME OF 'EM ARE NOT EVEN HOMELESS.

IT'S JUST DRUG PEOPLE WALKING IN AND OUT OF THIS BUILDING.

THEY'RE MAKING TRANSACTIONS AND STUFF.

AND, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO RUN A LEGIT BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S HARD.

WE'RE PUTTING EVERYTHING INTO KEEPING OUR PLACE CLEAN AND EVERYTHING.

AND THESE GUYS THAT JUST BUY THE PROPERTY FOR INVESTMENT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO THEM TO KIND OF HOLD 'EM ACCOUNTABLE? I MEAN, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE CITY.

I MEAN, I PAY TAXES FOR ALL THAT.

I HATE TO SEE MY TAX DOLLARS GO TO THESE PEOPLE WHO COULD CARE LESS ABOUT CLEANING IT, PAINTING IT.

I'VE GOT TWO BUILDINGS NEXT TO ME THAT THE ROOF, YOU CAN TELL IS BAD.

THE WALLS ARE BREAKING, EVERYTHING'S CRACKING, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN AND OUT.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING IN AND OUT WITH BACKPACKS.

THERE'S NO TRAILS ANYWHERE THERE, THERE'S NO HIKING TRAILS.

SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ENOUGH CAN'T BE DONE.

BUT I THINK IF WE PUT SOMETHING BACK ON SOME OF THESE BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT BUY PROPERTIES FOR INVESTMENTS, AND THERE'S SOME THERE THAT ARE CRAZY AS FAR AS THE PRICE THAT THEY WANT FOR AN EMPTY LOT OR FOR A VACANT BUILDING, UH, I'VE TRIED TO BUY 'EM JUST TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

AND, AND THE PRICE IS THROUGH THE ROOF.

'CAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE HIGHWAY.

THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A BIG DEVELOPMENT COMING DOWN, AND SO THEY'RE JUST BANKING ON THAT BIG DOLLAR.

AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE REST OF US GUYS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF KEEP OUR PLACE CLEAN.

SO I DON'T REALLY WANNA PUT ALL OF THIS ON THE CITY BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY TAXPAYER DOLLARS, BUT MAYBE HOLD SOME OF THESE INVESTORS THAT ARE FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT ARE NOT FROM HERE, WHO COULD CARE LESS, YOU KNOW, HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO, HEY, YOU GOTTA CLEAN THIS PLACE UP.

YOU GOTTA MAKE IT PERSPECTIVE.

IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING WITH IT IN

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SIX MONTHS, THEN PUT IT ON THE MARKET.

DON'T JUST SIT ON IT.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANGLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, WOW.

PERFECT TIMING, MR. CORMAN.

UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA PICK IT UP FROM, FROM THERE.

AND I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER COMMENTS.

UH, I'LL FOLLOW MR. CORMAN'S.

I KNOW WE HAVE A, A VACANT BUILDING ORDINANCE WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN TYPES OF BUILDINGS.

UH, MIKE, COULD YOU ARE, DO YOU OVERSEE THAT OR WHO OVERSEES THE VACANT BUILDING ORDINANCE? MARIA .

WELL, THE VA UH, I'LL JUST JUMP IN.

THE VACANT BUILDING ORDINANCE IS RUN THROUGH, UH, THE OFFICE OF HISTORICAL PRESERVATION.

SHANNON MILLER.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DIDN'T SEE, OH, WE DIDN'T INVITE HER TO THIS MEETING, , BUT I, I'LL GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BUT I, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO, TO MARIA AND ASK HER, UM, IF SHE SEES ANY, ANY POSSIBILITY OF EXPANDING.

WHAT, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO EXPAND THAT ORDINANCE? IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN IT TO US AND HOW IT MIGHT APPLY IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE.

OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

MM-HMM.

, UH, YES, COUNCILWOMAN, UM, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE HAS CERTAIN PARAMETERS ON THE TYPE OF PROPERTIES THAT IT CAN BE, UM, APPLIED TO AND IS BY AREAS OF THE CITY.

UM, WHAT WE CAN DO IS, IN THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO THAT WE'LL SEND WITH THE, WITH THE INFORMATION REQUESTED TODAY, IS PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THOSE PROPERTIES.

AND PERHAPS IF THE, IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE MAYBE A BRIEFING ON THE SPECIFIC POLICY, UH, WE CAN DO THAT, OR WE CAN DO IT VIA MEMO AND GIVE YOU SOME, UM, OPTIONS TO POTENTIALLY, UH, EXPAND IT.

UH, WE, WHEN WE INITIALLY STARTED, STARTED THE PROGRAM A FEW YEARS AGO, MAYBE THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, WE ADDED SOME RESOURCES TO THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT WORK FOR, UM, UH, FOR SHANNON OR SOME INSPECTORS TO BE ABLE TO, UM, UM, MONITOR THOSE PROPERTIES AND BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO WE CAN GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF, OF WHAT THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS ARE AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM.

THANK YOU, MARIA.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

IF YOU WANNA INCLUDE THAT IN, IN THE MEMO.

AND, UM, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS RIGHT NOW IT APPLIES TO HISTORIC PROPERTIES, RIGHT? OR PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, CORRECT.

AND WE EXPANDED, AND I DON'T RECALL THE SPECIFICS, BUT IT WAS EXPANDED TO OTHER AREAS ACROSS THE CITY.

UM, AND WE'LL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

BUT THE, THE INITIALLY WHEN WE STARTED THE PROGRAM IS, WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR HISTORIC, UH, PROPERTIES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UM, COULD THE STAFF ALSO RESPOND TO, ARE THESE VACANT PROPERTIES, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE HISTORIC, ARE THEY PROBLEM AREAS? DO YOU SPEND RESOURCES, UH, WHETHER IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, MIKE OR, OR EDWARD OR POLICE DEPARTMENT ON ISSUES THAT OCCUR IN VACANT PROPERTIES AND VACANT BUILDINGS? COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT, PLEASE? THIS WAS A, UH, AN EXAMPLE THAT, UH, HAPPENED A FEW YEARS BACK UP IN, I THINK IT WAS DISTRICT NINE OR 10.

I DON'T, I FORGET WHATEVER LISA CHAN WAS IN, UH, I THINK IT WAS NINE NINE.

UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES, UH, IN HER DISTRICT THAT WERE, UM, OWNED BY ABSENTEE LANDLORDS.

UH, LOTS OF PROBLEMS, LOTS OF, UM, UH, CRIME AROUND THOSE BUILDINGS.

AND, UH, WE GOT CODE COMPLIANCE.

WE DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TAX, UH, RECORDS OF THOSE, UH, OWNERS.

AND ANYTHING THAT WE FOUND WHERE THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, WE WROTE LETTERS TO THEM.

AND MOST OF THEM LIVED IN CALIFORNIA, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

AND WE GOT THEM TO COME BACK HERE FOR A BIG MEETING.

I THINK THERE WERE ABOUT 20 OF 'EM.

WE GOT 'EM TO COME BACK HERE FOR A MEETING AND, UM, KINDA LAID DOWN THE LAW TO THEM AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN IF YOU DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THESE BUILDINGS.

AND I THINK, UM, THAT THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PLAYED A BIG ROLE IN THAT AS WELL.

UM, UH, WE HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO THAT, COUNCILWOMAN.

IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY FOR MARIA.

UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO A BRIEFING OR, OR A MEMO ON THE, UM, VACANT CITY ORDINANCE.

BUT I'M CURIOUS, ARE THERE ANY OF THOSE AREAS IN DISTRICT SIX SPECIFICALLY WHERE MR. CORMAN'S BUSINESSES IS OLD HIGHWAY 90? IT'S A HISTORIC AREA.

I WONDER IF THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO INCLUDE THE, A MAP WITH THE DIFFERENT AREAS ACROSS THE CITY THAT ARE ELIGIBLE WITHIN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MARIA.

SORRY.

AND, AND CHIEF, COULD YOU ELABORATE? I MEAN, WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THOSE PROPERTIES? THEY WERE, UH, OUT OF COMPLIANCE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE TRASH ALL OVER THERE.

UH, THERE WAS ELECTRIC, ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS, PLUMBING PROBLEMS, INFESTATION PROBLEMS, UH, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THEIR, THEIR, YOU KNOW, THE ABSENTEE LANDLORD'S, UM, REAL ESTATE.

AND, UM, WE GATHERED ALL UP THAT GATHERED, GATHERED, GATHERED UP ALL THAT INFORMATION, SENT LETTERS, AND, I DON'T KNOW, WE GAVE

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'EM ABOUT A MONTH, MONTH AHEAD OF TIME, AND WE, WE CALLED A MEETING AND THEY ALL, MOST OF 'EM CAME EXCEPT I THINK MAYBE ONE OR TWO.

OKAY.

I, I BELIEVE, UH, MR. SHANNON HAS SOMETHING TO ADD.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD, AND I KNOW, UH, WHEN WE HAVE SPECIFIC CASES LIKE, UH, THE ONE THAT CHIEF IS TALKING ABOUT, WE WILL COORDINATE UNIQUE EFFORTS LIKE THAT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, IN CODE ENFORCEMENT ALONG WITH PD, WE WORK ON VACANT PROPERTIES QUITE A BIT, AND THEY CAN VERY QUICKLY BECOME A NUISANCE, UH, IN AND AROUND ANY, UH, AREA, WHETHER IT BE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, IN A BUSINESS DISTRICT.

SO A LOT OF OUR CASES, UH, THAT WE WORK ON ARE TO CLEAN THOSE UP, UH, FORCING THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER TO, UH, TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP, UH, IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING IT, AND THEN EVENTUALLY BRINGING THEM TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, WHICH IS THE CITIZEN LED BOARD THAT HEARS CASES, UH, AND, UH, WHETHER IT BE DRUG ISSUES.

AND I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES MENTIONED, UH, BUT ALSO STRUCTURAL OR JUST A LOT OF CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT IS ENOUGH IN OUR CODE TO BE DEEMED A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE AND BECOME, AND BE UP FOR A DEMOLITION.

NOW, THAT'S A PROCESS TO GET THERE, BUT THOSE ARE SOME SEVERE CONSEQUENCES THAT THOSE OUT OF TOWN THAT DON'T CARE.

UH, AND CERTAINLY IT HAS TO RISE TO THAT LEVEL.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME TOOLS AND WE CAN PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION OR SOME DATA ON, UH, THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WE HEAR, UH, OR, OR DEAL WITH ON VACANT PROPERTIES LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS A CRITICAL ISSUE, UH, IN AND AROUND THAT AREA IF THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF A VACANT PROPERTY OR VACANT STRUCTURE.

UH, UH, SO THANK YOU.

UM, UH, THE COUNCILWOMAN, UH, HAS WHISPERED SOMETHING SWEET IN MY EAR.

AND, AND HER QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UH, FIRES AT SOME OF THESE VACANT PROPERTIES.

IS THAT ALSO A, A CONCERN OR AN ISSUE THAT'S ARISEN? IT'S ALWAYS A POTENTIAL CONCERN, YES.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

YEAH.

HAVE WE, WE'VE SPENT MONEY ON PUTTING OUT FIRES, BASICALLY IN VACANT SURE.

BUILDINGS.

OKAY.

HOW MUCH, UH, YEAH.

IS THERE ANY WAY TO QUANTIFY THAT? I, I THINK WE WOULD, WE COULD WORK WITH S A F D TO GET THE NUMBERS OF, UH, VACANT PROPERTY FIRES AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, SO WE COULD WORK WITH THEM.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, UM, SO A COUPLE THINGS.

I KNOW THAT A, I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I, AS YOU WERE, UH, ASKING ABOUT THE VACANT LOT PROPERTY, OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE JUST SENT ME THE INFORMATION ON THE LOCATION, SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THAT INFORMATION.

AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A MAP.

BUT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE ALLOWS, UM, THIS ORDINANCE APPLIES TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN, UH, ONE HALF A MILE OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

IT APPLIES TO ALL HISTORIC DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY, NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, ALL CITY INITIATED TERRACE, AS WELL AS VACANT HISTORIC LANDMARKS, VACANT STRUCTURES WITHIN ONE AND A HALF A MILE OF ALL ACTIVE MILITARY BASIS.

SO IT APPLIES TO BOTH HISTORIC AND NON HISTORIC, BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU A MAP WITH THE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS AND, UM, AND, AND PERHAPS SOME OPTIONS IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER EXPANDING THE ORDINANCES.

OKAY.

SO, I, UM, A COUPLE THINGS.

I KNOW OUR AGENDA ITEM IS ACTUALLY HOMELESSNESS.

AND, UH, I WANT TO, I KNOW WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE OFF TOPIC HERE, BUT IS THAT OCCURRING IN THE VACANT BUILDINGS? ARE WE SEEING PEOPLE TAKE SHELTER THERE? AND IS THAT AN ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE TO, UH, ADDRESS? YES, MA'AM.

IN SOME CASES.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOT TOO FAR OFF, OFF TOPIC, BUT FOR A FOLLOW UP ITEM, PERHAPS WE'LL SEND US THE MEMO AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS, UH, HOW WE BRING IT BACK.

UM, OKAY.

SO TO, TO WRAP UP THE, THE ITEM, THE BRIEFING THAT WE GOT TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EDWARD.

UH, EVERYONE WHO'S HERE IS EXTREMELY THOROUGH.

UM, AND I, I DO WANNA TOUCH ON THE COMMENT THAT THE COUNCILWOMAN MADE, HOW, HOW THERE HAS BEEN A GROWTH IN THE NUMBER OF ENCAMPMENTS.

AND I ALSO WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THE GROWTH IN ENCAMPMENTS DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN A GROWTH IN THE HOMELESS POPULATION, CORRECT.

BECAUSE THE POINT IN TIME COUNT TELLS US ONE THING, THE NUMBERS ARE GOING, WENT DOWN, BUT THE, BUT THE ENCAMPMENT NUMBERS GO UP.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, UM, WE'RE DOING MORE OUTREACH.

WE'RE PROVIDING MORE OUTREACH.

UM, IF WE COULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT, UH, THE PERCENTAGE OF ACCEPTING SERVICES, THEN I THINK, UH, IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY.

SO I, WE, AT THIS POINT, I'LL SAY I DON'T, AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE NUMBERS OF HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY GOING UP IN RELATION TO THE NUMBER OF VISITS THAT WE'RE DOING, THAT WE'RE CONDUCTING.

SO, UH, AFTER THE 2020 POINT IN TIME COUNT, I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BETTER UNDER, WHICH HAPPENS IN JANUARY 23RD, 2020, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

UH, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA SEE THAT, UH, AN INCREASE IN UNSHELTERED COUNT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, THANK YOU EDWARD.

AND I RECALL DURING THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE, COUNCILMAN PERRY, OR THE CURRENT BUDGET CYCLE THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, COUNCILMAN PERRY DID REQUEST

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A STAFF PERSON, UH, FOR HOMELESS OUTREACH IN HIS, IN HIS DISTRICT.

UH, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE? SHOULD WE ALL BE ADVOCATING FOR THAT IN, IN ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS? HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT WORK? SURE.

SO, UM, WE HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN THAT WORKS WITH, UH, OUR SAFE NORTH.

UH, THAT PERSON IS A LICENSED, UH, CLINICIAN.

UM, THEY PROVIDE INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT AND FOLLOW UP FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED WITHIN DISTRICT 10 SUFFERING FROM SEVERE MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES.

UH, MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE CO-OCCURRING ISSUES.

SO THIS INDIVIDUAL WORKS WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH DETAIL, UH, AND THE SAFE OFFICERS, ONCE THEY'RE THEIR PRIMARY CONTACT FOR ENCAMPMENT OUTREACH IN THAT DISTRICT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THEIR CASELOAD IS REALLY TO FOCUS ON INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HIGH UTILIZERS, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NOT ACCEPTING SERVICE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SAY YES, RIGHT? WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SUFFERING EXTREME MENTAL ILLNESS, AND THEY, UH, NEED A DIFFERENT APPROACH WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, PROVIDING SERVICES TO THEM.

SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

THAT'S HOW THE, THIS INDIVIDUAL WORKS.

THEY WORK WITH OUR, UM, THEY GO A LITTLE DEEPER IN DEPTH IN TERMS OF, UH, RESOURCE REFERRAL.

AND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT IS THEY COULD, UH, ACTUALLY GO TO A COURT DATE FOR SOMEBODY.

SO THEY GO TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ATTEND COURT AFTER THEY GET, UH, IN SOME CASES SOMEBODY HAS BEEN EMERGENCY DETAINED, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE SUFFERING A CRISIS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN DEEMED, UH, A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.

THEY GET INTO THE COURT, UH, THEY'RE SEEN BY A JUDGE.

OUR CLINICIAN WILL FOLLOW THEM IF THEY'RE ON THAT CASELOAD TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, ASK THE JUDGE FOR SPECIAL PROVISIONS, MAYBE CAN JUDGE, CAN YOU PLEASE ASK THEM TO ASSIGN THEM TO, UH, INSTEAD OF ASSIGNING THEM TO JAIL, YOU ASSIGN THEM TO A TREATMENT CENTER.

UH, AND WE WILL, WE WILL WORK TOWARDS WORKING WITH THAT.

SO IT WAS A PILOT PROJECT.

UM, IT WAS, UH, UH, AN AMENDMENT WITHIN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AND, UH, IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

NOW SHE'S DEDICATED TO DISTRICT 10 AND DISTRICT TWO.

UM, BUT THERE IS, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, A GREAT AND NEED FOR HER SERVICES CHAIR.

IF, IF I MAY YES, PLEASE.

IF I MAY ADD US.

UH, EDWARD MENTIONED THE POSITION WAS ADDED IN THE 2019 BUDGET AS A PILOT, UH, UH, PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUE A PORTION OF YOUR QUESTION IS, UH, WE NEED TO MEASURE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF HAVING THIS PERSON.

WE ONLY HAD IT FOR PROBABLY LESS THAN 12 MONTHS, UH, SINCE IT TOOK TIME TO, TO HIRE THE PERSON TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL IF WE WANTED TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS, AS YOU MAY KNOW, AND SOMETHING WE DIDN'T, UH, GO INTO A LOT OF, WE DIDN'T GO INTO DETAIL.

AND THE PRESENTATION IS THAT WE ARE WORKING IN A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR HOMELESS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO IDENTIFY OUR STRENGTHS, BUT ALSO OUR WEAKNESSES AND THE GAPS THAT WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY SO WE CAN PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF INVESTMENT.

SO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, SHOULD WE BE ADVOCATING FOR MORE POSITIONS FOR ALL COUNCIL DISTRICTS? I THINK AS THIS, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN IS COMPLETED, AND I BELIEVE IT'LL BE DONE BY, IT'S GONNA BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN APRIL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OF 2020.

SO WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE IT, UH, IN TIME FOR THE BUDGET CYCLE, SO THAT WAY, UH, WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THAT, UH, STUDY.

THANK YOU, MARIA, FOR BRINGING IT HOME BEFORE WE GOT CARRIED AWAY WITH THE, WITH THE BUDGETING PROCESS.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I FORGOT THERE WAS GONNA BE A PRIORITIZATION PROCESS FOR THAT.

UM, UH, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT DONE ON THIS ITEM YET.

COUNCILWOMAN ANDREWS SULLIVAN HAS, UH, IS DOING A, GO BACK ON THIS.

JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.

WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, THOSE THAT ARE, ARE ASKING OR SEEKING THE ASSISTANCE AND THOSE THAT CANNOT QUALIFY FOR HOUSING, HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THAT THROUGH, THROUGH MAYBE SAHA OR THROUGH APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR LANDLORDS TO GET THEM INTO A RESIDENCE OF THEIR OWN? HOW, HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THAT AS WELL? SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UH, APPROACHES.

ONE IS, I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, IS, UH, WE'RE INCENTIVIZING, RIGHT? WE'RE, UH, THERE'S BEEN MANY CASES WHERE WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS INCOME, RIGHT? THEY'RE HOMELESS, BUT THEY HAVE AN INCOME.

UH, MAYBE FIVE YEARS AGO THEY HAD A HOME, AN APARTMENT, AND THEY WERE EVICTED FROM THEIR APARTMENT.

UM, AND WE ASK, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE AN APARTMENT? YOU HAVE AN INCOME.

YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A GOOD BENEFIT, AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT.

AND THEY SAY, WELL, I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING THAT I CAN, BUT I

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HAVE AN EVICTION ON MY CREDIT.

AND I, AND EVERYWHERE THAT I APPLY, I CANNOT GET IN.

I CANNOT GET A LANDLORD TO ACCEPT MY SERVICE, ACCEPT ME AS A CLIENT.

SO WHAT WE DO IS OUR CASE MANAGERS WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND WE GUARANTEE THE RENT, RIGHT? WE SAY, WE ASK THEM, WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE A CHANCE ON THIS INDIVIDUAL? THEY HAVE, UH, MONTHLY INCOME, THEY MEET YOUR GUIDELINES.

THE ONLY ISSUE IS THEY HAVE A EVICTION FROM FIVE YEARS AGO.

CAN YOU HELP US WITH THAT? UH, IT, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

MOST OF THE TIME, THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE ABLE TO, UH, CONTINUE TO PAY THEIR RENT.

THEY STAY HOUSED, AND WE DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE ANY OF THE, OF THE SUBSIDY.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, IN MONTH THREE, WE'RE GONNA PAY, UH, MONTH FOUR THROUGH SIX BECAUSE THEY, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY DIDN'T PAY THEIR RENT.

WE CASE MANAGE THOSE INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE ALSO ASK THOSE LANDLORDS TO TAKE A CHANCE ON THEM.

THE OTHER WAY THAT WE DO IT IS JUST WE, WE REALLY TRY TO CONNECT INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY INCOME TO SOME SORT OF BENEFIT, RIGHT? SO, UH, IF YOU'RE A VETERAN, YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT VA BENEFIT IF, UH, MOST, IN MOST CASES, UH, IF YOU'RE, UM, IF YOU'RE SUFFERING SOME FROM SOME, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, YOU MAY BE QUALIFIED FOR S S I OR S S D I.

SO WE HELP THEM GET SOME TYPE OF INCOME BEFORE WE CAN GET THEM ON THE ROAD TO PERMANENT HOUSING.

NOW, IN TERMS OF, OF VOUCHERS, I KNOW YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT.

WE DO WORK WITH SAHA.

THEY HAVE, UH, A SMALL, I WILL SAY A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF SETASIDE VOUCHERS.

UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 10 MAR, HOW MANY IS IT? WE HAVE 40.

WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 40 SETASIDE VOUCHERS FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, UH, THAT WE MAKE REFERRALS TO THEM.

SO THEY'RE HELPING WITH THAT.

UH, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER 200 VOUCHERS FROM SAHA, UH, THAT HAVEN FOR HOPE AND, AND, UH, SAM MINISTRIES UTILIZED.

SO WE ARE WORKING WITH, WITH SAHA FOR, FOR THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

OKAY.

UM, SO, UH, I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR DISCUSSION FOR THE HOMELESS INITIATIVES.

UH, I THINK WE TOOK MUCH LONGER ON THAT THAN I HAD ANTICIPATED, BUT I THINK IT WAS A VERY THOROUGH DISCUSSION.

VERY HELPFUL FOR, FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THE BREADTH OF, OF SERVICES AND EXPENSES AND THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR.

UM, I'M GOING TO PROPOSE TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT SINCE IT'S 7 24, UH, AND WE DO HAVE ONE MORE AGENDA ITEM THAT PERHAPS WE POSTPONE THAT TO OUR NEXT, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING.

IF, UM, I THINK THAT'S FINE WITH YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UH, , THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, CHIEF AND TO ALL OUR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS FOR, FOR BEING HERE.

I REALLY, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, IS THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANNA GIVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS, COUNCILWOMAN, VERY BRIEFLY, I JUST WANNA THANK AGAIN THE JOHN JAY, UH, STUDENT COUNCIL FOR HELPING US SET UP HERE IN HEART OF DISTRICT SIX AND THEIR SPONSOR, MS. UH, DANIELLA MECADO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, MARIA, UH, COUNCIL, UH, WOMEN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY.

WE WON'T BE HAVING A MEETING IN DECEMBER BECAUSE IT'S A SHORT MONTH DUE TO THE HOLIDAYS.

.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

CHIEF, YOU REALLY WANTED TO GIVE CHIEF, DID YOU WANNA COME IN DECEMBER? DID YOU? NO.

, ABSOLUTELY .

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, WE ARE, WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.