Apr 17, 2026 Historic Compliance and Technical Advisory Board (CTAB)

CAN I HAVE A, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM MARGE? WHAT WAS IT? 20TH MARCH 20TH, 2026.

UH, STARTING APRIL 1ST, UH, THE MESSAGING WAS THAT VOICEMAIL COMMENTS WOULD NO LONGER BE ACCEPTED.

UM, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE HAS PIVOTED WHERE WE WOULD STILL ACCEPT THEM, UM, AND PROVIDE THEM IN THAT TRANSCRIBED FORMAT.

WE JUST WOULDN'T PLAY THEM AT THE HEARINGS.

WHERE ARE THOSE IN THE FILES RIGHT NOW? WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY VOICEMAILS FOR THIS HEARING.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM,

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I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES.

I SECOND IT.

TIME WE CAN DRAW OUR ATTENTION TO THE SCREEN.

[CONSENT AGENDA Items are placed on the consent agenda when staff recommends approval or recommends approval with stipulations that the applicant agrees to. Any member of the public desiring to speak on a consent agenda item may sign up and be heard prior to voting on the consent agenda. Commissioners may request to remove any item from the consent agenda and have it placed on the individual consideration agenda. All items on the consent agenda will be considered for approval by one motion adopting the items with staff findings and recommendations.]

UH, WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, JUST A NOTE WHEN WE GET TO IT.

UM, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT HAS BEEN POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.

IT WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE ONE HERE SIGNED UP FOR THAT ITEM.

SO JUST A NOTE.

UM, BUT AT THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR AND WE CAN TAKE, UM, ACTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I JUST HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION.

UM, IS THERE, THERE, THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE, IN THE FOLDER FOR MULBERRY THERE.

SO WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER, UH, FOR MULBERRY AND SO THAT IS AVAILABLE.

SO THAT WASN'T A TRANSCRIBED VOICEMAIL.

WE STILL GET EMAILS AND LETTERS JUST LIKE WE NORMALLY HAVE WHEN WE DO GET TRANSCRIPTS.

COREY, WILL IT BE SPECIFICALLY INDICATED LIKE THESE ARE TRANSCRIPTS FROM CALLS OR WILL IT JUST GO IN LETTERS? I THINK IT SHOULD BE DIFFERENTIATED BETWEEN THE, THE TWO.

WELL IT'S, IT'S IN PROCESS.

THE WAY THAT THIS IS GONNA BE AUTOMATED.

UM, IN THE MEANTIME WE'RE DOING IT MANUALLY.

AND SO, UM, WHAT I TELL YOU NOW MAY NOT BE THE ANSWER IN THE FUTURE, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE.

IT'LL BE A TEXT DOCUMENT.

I DUNNO IF IT'S A PDF OR SOMETHING THAT'S GENERATED.

OH, GOOD LUCK MEGAN .

POOR GIRL.

ALRIGHT, UM, LET'S SEE.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS PLEASE? I'D LIKE TO PULL MUL BEARING.

AND ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? IF NOT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE, UH, CONSENT ITEMS. ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? SECOND.

LET'S GO TO THE MULBERRY

[4. Address/Description: 430 E MULBERRY AVE HDRC Case No.: 2026-070 Historic District Name: Monte Vista Neighborhood Assn Name: Monte Vista Historical Applicant: Rajesh Kumar Request: New Construction of Rear Accessory Structure City Council Dist.: 1 ]

CASE PLEASE.

OKAY, ONE SEC.

SO IF YOU'RE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND YOUR ADDRESS IS 4 26 EAST CORTLAND PLACE, SEVEN 19 EAST CARSON AND SIX 15 EAST EVERGREEN, YOUR CASE HAS BEEN APPROVED AND YOU DO NOT NEED TO STAY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS HEARING.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT A MEMBER OF OHP STAFF.

YOUR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS OR COMMISSION ACTION LETTER WILL BE PREPARED AND EMAILED TO YOU WITHIN 10 DAYS.

UH, SO, UH, NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

THIS IS FOUR 30 EAST MULBERRY.

UH, THE, UH, APPLICANT AND OWNER MR. KUMAR IS ON VIRTUALLY AND CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.

DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD WITH OR ARE THEY PRESENTING OR, OR CAN I ASK A, UH, GOOD MORNING, ARE YOU, THIS IS, UH, KUMAR, I'M THE OWNER OF THE FOUR 30 EAST MULBERRY.

UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO PRESENT THIS OR, UH, OFFICIAL WILL DO THAT, YES, PLEASE PRESENT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU GOT ON THE CASE THERE.

THERE IS A EXISTING STRUCTURE WAS THERE BEFORE 2019.

AND, UH, I WANT TO HAVE THIS, UH, PICNIC PATIO BACKSIDE AND EVERYBODY HAS IN THAT AREA EVERY HOUSE.

SO I SENT THE PHOTOS.

I MEAN, THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING ONE OLD ONE, SO, AND, UH, I MEAN, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I CAN SHOW THE OLD PHOTO.

I MEAN, THIS IS THE STRUCTURE, WHAT IT IS.

AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT YEAH, GOOGLE PICTURE.

THERE WAS A OLD STRUCTURE.

WAS THERE, UH, THERE WAS ONE MORE PHOTO THERE.

UH, NEXT ONE? YEAH.

YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WAS STRUCTURE, THE OLD ONE BEFORE THAT.

I WISH I COULD HAVE MORE PHOTO OLDER ONE BECAUSE WE TAKE OVER IN 2000, UH, 23 WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE AND THAT'S WHY WE TRYING TO PUT FENCE AND THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SPACE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN PARK THEIR CAR, YOU KNOW, ON THE SIDES.

THAT'S WHY THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FRONT OF THE HOUSE, ANY PARKING SPACE EITHER.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S,

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WE'LL MOVE TO COMMISSIONER.

UH, QUESTIONS.

YOU WANNA GO AHEAD.

UM, UM, MY FIRST QUESTION IS THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE WAS, WAS, UH, TAKEN OUT COMPLETELY, RIGHT? YEAH, BECAUSE IT WAS THE OLD STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, THE ROTTEN WOOD AND IT WAS, UH, NOT TREATED AND THAT'S WHY WE, WE TAKE IT DOWN AND WE, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

AND JUST PUTTING THE NEW YES.

AND THEN THE NEW STRUCTURE, IS IT LARGER AND IT HAS A DIFFERENT, UH, ROOF LINE? OH, IT, IT'S SIMILAR.

WERE YOU? IT'S A, IT'S A SIMILAR, SIMILAR, YEAH.

AND HAVE YOU OBTAINED A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT? YES, MA'AM.

I, I TOOK THE PERMIT FROM THE PERMIT.

UH, I MEAN CITY ACTUALLY FOR THIS.

THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS.

UM, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? NO.

ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES? NO.

AND THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT.

WE ACTUALLY, I MEAN THE LETTER YOU HAVE CAME IN OVERNIGHT AND SO WE JUST ADDED IT THIS MORNING SO THAT YOU WOULD AT LEAST BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE LETTER THAT'S IN THERE? I DID.

IT JUST SAID SOMEONE WAS GONNA BE HERE TO SPEAK, BUT OH, OKAY.

AND THEY'RE AGREEING WITH OHP IS ASKING AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ON THE CONSENT.

THE APPLICANT, UM, IS, UH, YEAH, AGREEABLE TO STIPULATIONS AND, YEAH.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO, TO APPROVE, UM, THIS AGENDA? ITEM FOUR, I MOVE TO, UH, APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

IS THERE A SECOND? UH, I SECOND THAT MOTION.

NUMBER FIVE HDRC, CASE NUMBER TWENTY TWENTY SIX ONE TEN FOUR FIFTEEN EIGHTEEN WEST ROSEWOOD.

[INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION]

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO PERFORM LANDSCAPING WORK WITHIN THE FRONT AND SIDE YARD AT 1518 WEST ROSEWOOD.

WITHIN THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED THE FOLLOWING SCOPES OF WORK.

ONE, THE INSTALLATION OF PLANNING BEDS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE FRONT YARD TO FEATURE BRICK EDGING AND VARIOUS GROUND COVER AND SHRUBS TO THE INSTALLATION OF A BRICK PAVE PATIO ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE FRONT YARD IN FRONT OF THE FRONT FACADE.

AND THREE, TO REPLACE THE EXISTING CONCRETE PORCH STEPS WITH BRICK STEPS AND TO REPLACE THE EXISTING FRONT WALKWAY WITH THE BRICK WALKWAY.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ITEMS ONE AND TWO BASED ON FINDINGS A THROUGH C WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.

ONE, THAT EDGING AND LANDSCAPING ELEMENTS SHOULD NOT IMPEDE UPON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AT ANY TIME.

AND TWO, THAT THE PATIO BE INSTALLED IN A MANNER THAT DOES NOT FACILITATE WATER DRAINAGE TOWARD THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES FOUNDATION STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, CONCRETE STEPS AND WALKER REPLACEMENT BASED ON FINDINGS.

DNE STAFF RECOMMENDS BOTH ORIGINAL CONCRETE ELEMENTS BE MAINTAINED, UH, SHOULD THEY REQUIRE REPAIR.

REPAIR SHOULD BE DONE CONSISTENTLY WITH THE GUIDELINES.

I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, MR. LU HOY, UH, IS HERE IN PERSON.

UM, IS MR. JOSE CAMACHO HERE IN PERSON OR ON VIRTUALLY? I GUESS WE COULD TABLE THIS FOR THE TIME BEING AND THEN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.

YEAH, LET'S DO THAT.

AND IF THEY POP IN, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WE'LL JUST GO BACK TO IT.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS CTAP CASE, UH, 20 26 0 83 FOR ONE 18 EAST RE.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO INSTALL A DRIVEWAY AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY THAT WILL MEASURE 20 FEET LONG BY NINE FEET WIDE.

TWO, MODIFY THE FRONT FACADE OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE BY INSTALLING A GABLE VENT.

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THREE, MODIFY THE FRONT FACADE BY REMOVING THE EXISTING SIDING ON THE FRONT GABLE AND INSTALLING CEDAR SHAKE SIDING AND A HORIZONTAL CANOPY ROOF DETAIL.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ITEM ONE WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS, ONE THAT THE DRIVEWAY FEATURE PERMEABLE MATERIALS AND NOT EXCEED NINE, UM, NINE FEET IN WIDTH AS SPECIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN.

TWO FINAL MATERIALS MUST BE SUBMITTED FOR, UH, TO STAFF FOR ISSUANCE OF A COA THREE THAT THE DRIVEWAY APPROACH NOT EXCEED 12 FEET IN WIDTH.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ITEM TWO WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATION THAT THE GABLE VENT SHOULD BE OF A SIMPLIFIED DESIGN THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE HISTORICALLY FOUND IN THE DISTRICT.

THE FINAL DESIGN SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO STAFF FOR REVIEW AND STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM THREE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THE ORIGINAL SIGHTING ON THE FRONT, UH, FACING GABLE BE RETAINED IN PLACE AND COMMISSIONERS.

THERE WAS A DRC FOR THIS, UM, REQUEST, AND SO THAT'S IN THE CASE FILE AS WELL.

I CAN SHOW IT TO YOU.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ATTENDED CAN SPEAK ON THAT.

THERE IS A LETTER FROM THE KING WILLIAM ASSOCIATION WITH COMMENTS, UH, SUPPORTING CERTAIN ELEMENTS AND THEN NOT SUPPORTING OTHERS.

AND THE APPLICANT, CHRIS COKER, IS HERE IN PERSON.

SO CHRIS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, COME TO THE PODIUM, YOU'LL HAVE 12 MINUTES TO SPEAK AND THERE ARE A FEW LATE FILES, UM, IN THE FOLDER, SO I'LL PULL THOSE UP AS WELL.

OH, THERE WE GO.

HEY, COMMISSIONERS, HOW ARE YOU? NICE TO SEE Y'ALL IN PERSON.

DO YOU HAVE PICTURES OF THE ONES THAT I SENT IN? YEAH, SO, UM, THIS HOUSE, I THINK I MOSTLY Y'ALL COMMISSIONERS WERE IN OUR DRC, UM, I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK.

AND SO, UM, JUST QUICK BACKGROUND FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WEREN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND HDRC, UH, FOR TWO MONTHS NOW OR SO.

UM, ON SEVERAL PARTS OF THIS, THIS HOUSE WE HAD, UH, I WORKED WITH DRC FOR HDRC AND GOT AN ADDITION APPROVED IN THE BACK OF THE, IN THE REAR OF THE HOUSE.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE NEXT STEP.

UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE LITTLE THINGS ON HERE THAT, UM, NUMBER ONE, I THINK IT NEEDS A DRIVEWAY, BUT NUMBER TWO, THE GABLE VENT, UM, AS DISCUSSED WITH SEVERAL OF Y'ALL IN THE DRC LAST WEEK, I THINK WOULD JUST, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS A LITTLE BIT ELONGATED IN MY OPINION, WITHOUT THE, WITHOUT A GABLE VENT OR ANYTHING, UM, ON THERE, DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE ACTUAL FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE? AND SO MY REQUEST IS SIMPLY JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF A DESIGN FEATURE TO IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING SPOKE WITH, UH, CITY STAFF, UH, PRETTY EXTENSIVELY ABOUT IT, UM, LOOKING AT WHAT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE PROPERTIES IN THIS, IN NATHAN HISTORICAL DISTRICT RIGHT HERE, UM, HAVE SOME SORT OF GABLE VENT GABLE WINDOW.

UH, A LOT OF THEM HAVE A, UM, LIKE A SHAKER STYLE SIDING ON THE FRONT, THE TOP PORTION, THE GABLE PORTION OF THE FRONT FACADE, UM, UH, SCALLOPED SIDING.

AND SO, AND I ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER, UH, PROPERTY AT 1 25 SUITE THIS FIRST STREET HERE, WHICH HAS AN AWESOME, UH, IT, IT JUST, I FEEL LIKE IT ADDS SUCH A GREAT ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE TO IT, UH, WITH A SCAFFOLD, UM, SCALLOP SIDING ABOVE THAT TOP PORTION.

SO AFTER WORKING WITH STAFF EXTENSIVELY ON THIS, UM, AND OF COURSE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND DRC LAST WEEK, UM, WE FOUND THAT STAFF WOULD SUPPORT, UM, UH, GABLE VENT UP TOP.

I DID, AND I, I DON'T RECALL WHICH STAFF OR WHICH COMMISSIONER GAVE THE IDEA OF JUST PAINTING THE SLATS.

DO Y'ALL REMEMBER? BUT IT WAS SUCH A GREAT IDEA AND I WAS LIKE, OH YEAH, WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT? BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN IT IN ON OTHER PROPERTIES AND ALL OF OUR HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE REQUEST.

I'M ACTUALLY, I'M NO LONGER SEEKING, UM, CHANGING THE WOOD WOOD PORTION OF THE FRONT FACADE ON THAT.

UM, WE ARE PER COMMISSIONER, UH, A COMMISSIONER'S IDEA.

GREAT IDEA.

I'M JUST GOING TO ALTERNATE PAINTING THE, THE ORIGINAL WOOD THAT'S UP THERE.

SO WE'RE GONNA PUT A GABLE VENT.

YOU WANNA SHOW THE ONE THAT, UH, YOU GUYS THOUGHT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE? UM, NO, NO.

UM, THERE'S ONE THAT'S JUST A SQUARE, JUST A VENT.

IT WAS A REALLY SIMPLE ONE FROM THE DDRC, THE REALLY SIMPLE ONE.

YEAH, THAT SMALL SQUARE, IT'S LIKE, YEAH.

OH, THERE IT IS.

UH, GO BACK.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, SO, UH, HAVING DISCUSSED IN THAT DRC STAFF, UH, FIGURED THAT THEY WOULD, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT AND I I'M ALL FOR IT TOO.

UM, I THINK IT, IT JUST BREAKS UP THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO BREAK UP KIND

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OF THE LONGEVITY OF THE TOP PORTION OF THAT GABLE.

UM, SO I LIKE THIS, IT, IT'S ALSO FUNCTIONAL, UM, OBVIOUSLY, UM, AND THEN WE WOULD KEEP KIND OF THAT THE SAME, ALL THE SAME WOOD THAT'S THERE, THE HISTORICAL WOOD AND JUST PAINT.

UM, I'D COME UP WITH A PAINT SCHEME.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE PAINT COLOR OF THE HOUSE IS GONNA BE YET.

UM, BUT THEY SAID THEY WOULD SUPPORT, UH, THAT AS WELL.

THE, THE ONLY ADDITIONAL ITEM, AND, AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE DRC MEETING WOULD BE, WILL YOU TAKE ME TO THE, UM, UH, THE ONE THAT HAS LIKE THE WINDOW, BUT YES, THIS ONE.

SO, UM, THE ONE THING THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO BREAK IT UP WOULD BE, UM, THIS, THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE.

AND SO, UM, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS IN THE DRC WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

TO ME IT LOOKS TO BE LIKE A ONE BY EIGHT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO MATCH THIS PART OF THE GABLE.

UM, SO WHATEVER, WE'LL MEASURE THIS PART OF THE GABLE.

AND I THINK JUST MATCHING THAT WOULD, UH, GOING ACROSS HERE WOULD BE, UM, VERY FITTING.

UH, THE ONE, THE ONE ITEM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE, IN THE MEETING WAS THIS LITTLE LIP RIGHT ON TOP OF IT.

I THINK THAT ADDS A REALLY COOL DESIGN TO IT.

UM, AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING, YOU KNOW, A FLAT BOARD THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE JUST THE NORMAL SIDING THAT'S THERE, BUT A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

I KIND OF LIKE THAT LIP.

SO I AM REQUESTING THIS PIECE, UH, SEPARATE THE GABLE, UM, FROM THE LOWER PORTION OF THAT FRONT FACADE AND ADDING THAT TINY LITTLE LIP, IT'S PROBABLY LIKE A ONE BY TWO OR SOMETHING JUST ABOVE THE TOP OF IT.

SO NOT THE WINDOW ON THIS ONE.

THIS IS REALLY HARD TO FIND IN ONE PICTURE EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

UH, SO IT'S THE GABLE VENT THAT Y'ALL JUST SAW IN PLACE OF THIS WINDOW HERE WITH THIS, UH, RUNNER ACROSS KIND OF SEPARATING THE GABLE VENT FROM THE LOWER PORTION.

SO THAT'S THE GABLE VENT.

UM, PART OF IT, I, I FEEL AS THOUGH, UM, THE, WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S FEEDBACK IN THAT DRC MEETING THAT WE CAME TO A PRETTY GOOD IDEA, UH, ON THAT.

I REALLY, I'M ENTHUSED ABOUT IT.

SO, UM, THE OTHER TOPIC THAT WE BROUGHT UP IN THAT MEETING AS WELL WAS ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY.

ACTUALLY STILL KIND OF CONFUSED ON THE DRIVEWAY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, THE BEST THAT I GATHERED FROM OUR DISCUSSIONS.

AND, UH, FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WEREN'T IN THE DRC MEETING, I ORIGINALLY, UM, REQUESTED JUST A CONCRETE DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT, UM, WHICH, UH, I HAVE RECEIVED APPROVAL ON FOR PRETTY MUCH ALL OF MY HISTORICAL PRO UH, PROJECTS.

AND, UM, AND STAFF RECOMMENDED A PERMEABLE DRIVEWAY, WHICH I ACTUALLY THINK IS REALLY COOL.

SO I'M TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT IDEA.

MANY YEARS AGO ON MY VERY FIRST PROJECT, NINE 30 HAY STREET, I THINK I WAS REQUESTING A PERMEABLE TYPE STYLE DRIVEWAY AND IT WAS DENIED.

SO TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY INCORPORATE THAT INTO ONE OF MY DESIGNS, I THINK WOULD BE REALLY NEAT.

I'M FINE WITH THE CONCRETE DRIVEWAY, OBVIOUSLY.

THAT'S WHAT I ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.

UM, IT, IT, I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP WITH THE RUNOFF.

UM, AND IT'S NOT AS ATTRACTIVE, I THINK, AS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

SO, UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WAS AT, I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER GARCIA MAYBE, UM, HAD MENTIONED A RIBBON DRIVEWAY.

SOMEONE MENTIONED A DRIVE.

IT WAS HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF, OF EVERYONE 'CAUSE I THINK I HAD FIVE OR SIX COMMISSIONERS IN THERE.

UM, AND I HAD PICTURES PULLED UP AND EVERYTHING.

BUT THE RIBBON DRIVEWAY SEEMED TO BE A CONSENSUS THAT MOST COMMI, UH, COMMISSIONERS COULD GET ON BOARD WITH THIS SPECIFIC PICTURE, I THINK WAS THE ONE THAT GARNERED THE MOST ATTENTION AND MAYBE SUPPORT.

UM, SO I AM REQUESTING, UM, A RIBBON DRIVEWAY LIKE THIS, UM, WITH THE GRASS DOWN THE MIDDLE.

NOW THE ONE TOPIC OF CONTENTION IN THAT WAS, WHAT DO YOU PUT DOWN THE MIDDLE? I SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I AM OPPOSED TO LIKE CRUST, GRANITE OR SMALL ROCK JUST BECAUSE WHEN ON THESE HISTORIC HOUSES, WHEN I, UM, REDO THE FLOORS IN THEM, I'M TRYING TO KEEP THE NATURAL FLOORS.

WHEN YOU WALK IN THAT CRUSHED GRANITE ON TENNIS SHOES TENDS TO GET STUCK IN THE BOTTOM OF THE SHOE.

THEN I FIND THAT IT SCUFFS THE FLOORS.

UM, THESE FLOORS ARE VERY TOUGH TO REFURBISH AND VERY EXPENSIVE TO REFURBISH.

AND SO, UM, I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE CRUST GRANITE, BUT TRYING TO FIND A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.

ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS MENTIONED LIKE A ONE TO TWO INCH, THREE INCH BEING TOO LARGE, UH, ROCK DOWN THE MIDDLE.

UM, WHICH I'M NOT OPPOSED TO.

I DO TEND TO LEAN TOWARDS COLOR VIBRANCY.

AND I THINK THE, THE GRASS

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IN THE CENTER, UH, GIVES YOU THAT, UM, APPEARANCE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY.

HOWEVER, I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHEN YOU PUT REAL GRASS IN THERE, AND ESPECIALLY WITH OUR WATER RESTRICTIONS, UH, THE DIFFICULTY OF ACTUALLY TRYING TO WATER JUST THE CENTER STRIP, I COULD PUT IRRIGATION LINES UNDERNEATH, BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING.

I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO AVOID, ESPECIALLY DOWN HERE, THE, THE WATER USAGE HAS BEEN A BIG, BIG, BIG ISSUE OVER THE YEARS.

UM, AND SO AS A LIFELONG SAN ANTONIO AND I, I'M COMPLETELY AWARE OF OUR SITUATION WATER WISE.

SO MY REQUEST IS I HAVE A, A TURF THAT I'VE USED BEFORE AND I JUST BROUGHT A LITTLE SAMPLE PIECE AND WE'RE TALKING JUST FOR THE STRIP IN THE CENTER.

UM, AND, AND THAT'S IT.

BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WILL KEEP ITS COLOR.

I HAVE USED THIS, UM, OTHER PLACES AND IT HAS NOT FADED OXIDIZED, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UM, AND SO I WANTED TO, CAN I, I KNOW MOST, MOST, MOST EVERYONE'S IN OPPOSITION OF ACTUAL TURF.

UM, AND, UH, AND I GET THAT, UH, BUT IT DOES CONTINUE WITH THE PERMEABLE THEME.

IT DOES ALLOW, BECAUSE THE BASE OF IT IS, UM, IS ROCK, IS SAND.

IT DOES ALLOW FOR THE WATER TO STAY IN THE YARD AND NOT, UH, DRAIN OFF INTO THE STREET.

SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PUTTING GRASS THERE OR SOMETHING ELSE.

I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE DIRECTION THAT, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS REALLY WANTED TO GO WITH IT.

SO I'M JUST KIND OF, UH, WINGING THAT A LITTLE BIT.

I'D SAY FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'D PREFER TO HAVE THIS, UM, THIS DESIGN HERE WITH THE TURF IN THE CENTER.

I COULD GO TO GRASS, I COULD GO TO ROCK.

THAT WOULD BE LIKE MY, MY, UH, LINE OF SUCCESSION THERE.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.

THANKS CHRIS.

SURE.

UM, WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUES NOW.

PERFECT.

UM, QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE LEFT.

I JUST HAVE MAYBE ONE CLARIFICATION.

UM, ON THE DRIVEWAY, THE FIRST SAYS NOT TO EXCEED NINE, NINE FEET IN, IN WIDTH, BUT THEN THE THREE ALSO SAYS, OH, THE DRIVEWAY APPROACH.

NOPE.

GOOD.

ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, QUESTIONS? NO, GO AHEAD, CHRIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO, TO FOLLOW UP ON ANY OF THOSE OTHER LINKS.

THERE ARE, UH, THEY'RE NOT PERFECT, BUT THERE ARE SOME, UH, NATIVE OR DROUGHT TOLERANT, UH, GROUND COVERS OUT THERE, LIKE THE FROG FRUIT THAT THE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM ALSO RECOMMENDS, OR, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, UH, UH, SEED SEED COMPANIES AND NURSERIES IN, IN SOUTH AND WEST TEXAS.

UH, THEY GROW A, A NATIVE, UH, NATIVE TEXAS GRASS BLEND.

AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ZOIA, YOU KNOW, OR QUITE AS NEAT AS THIS, BUT THEY ARE, UH, NATIVE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY TOUGH AND THEY'RE TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT, UH, UH, SPECIES OF GRASS MIXED IN THAT, UH, MIGHT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT IF NOTHING ELSE CAN.

DO THEY, DO YOU, AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THOSE SPECIES.

DO THEY, UM, DO THEY STAY GREEN? DO THEY GO DORMANT LIKE BERMUDA WOULD? I MEAN, MAYBE, UH, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THEM.

UM, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA BE TRYING IT MYSELF THIS SUMMER, SO WE'LL SEE.

BUT, UM, INTERESTING.

BROKE AND IT DIDN'T WATER IT FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS AND IT KEPT GROWING.

I I THINK THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF DORMANCY IN THE SUMMER, UH, BUT I, IT SOUNDED LIKE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A MIXTURE OF MAYBE THREE DIFFERENT SPECIES, SOME OF IT STAYS GREEN AND IT, IT'S, UH, RELATIVELY SHORT GRASS, SO IT'S NOT LIKE A, A, YOU KNOW, TALL BLUE STEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, I CAN'T MAKE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS.

THERE ARE SOME COMPANIES OUT THERE LIKE I THINK ERT OR NATIVE AMERICAN SEED, UM, THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE, IN THE JOURNAL AREA, OR YOU CAN GOOGLE TEXAS NATIVE SEEDS AND, AND THEY DO HAVE SOME PICTURES ON THE WEBSITE.

SO THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU A SENSE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK YOU FOR, I DON'T WANT TO LIKE LOOK LIKE I'M USING MY PHONE, BUT IF I COULD GET, UH, THAT NAME OF THAT AGAIN? OH, UH, SO I, THE WEBSITE, TWO OF THEM, UM, ARE BAME OR NATIVE AMERICAN SEED.

UM, AND AGAIN, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY MY DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH ALL OF THIS.

UM, SO I'M RELUCTANT TO EVEN MENTION, UH, A COMPANY NAME UP HERE, BUT I JUST AS A STARTING POINT, YOU MIGHT CHECK THOSE OUT.

WHAT WAS THE SOMETHING? FROG FRUIT.

UM, YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE ABOUT, IT'S, IT'S A WEIRD NAME, BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S INCREDIBLY TOUGH.

I'VE HAD IT IN MY FRONT YARD IN DIRECT SUN IN SIX INCHES OF SOIL AND IT DIDN'T, IT, IT LOVED IT.

AND IT HAS, UH, SMALL WHITE FLOWERS THAT, UH, POLLINATORS LIKE TOO, SO, HMM.

HOW, HOW OFTEN DO YOU HAVE TO WATER? MY, MY SOAKER HOSE

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INTERESTING.

SO, UH, YOU CAN LEARN MORE.

THE, UH, SAWS HAS IT ON THEIR WEBSITE.

YOU KNOW, THEIR SA SA LIFE, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

WELL, THEY HAVE A CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT, UH, WEBSITE AND THEN I THINK MAYBE THE BOTANICAL GARDEN WOULD HAVE SOME EXAMPLES IF YOU WANNA SEE IT IN PERSON.

UM, OR THE LADY BIRD JOHNSON CENTER UP IN, UH, AUSTIN.

THEY'VE GOT A GREAT WEBSITE TOO, SO YEAH, I'M, UH, I MEAN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, TO TAKING A LOOK AT THAT EITHER, SO.

GO AHEAD, MIKE.

THERE'S ANOTHER COMPANY THAT I'VE DEALT WITH IN THIS AREA CALLED DOUGLAS KING SEED COMPANY, DOUGLAS CANYON, SEED KING, KING SEED, KING SEED COMPANY.

AND THEY SPECIALIZE IN, UM, SOUTH TEXAS GRASS GROWING AND SEEDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I'VE USED THEM WITH THEM BEFORE.

UH, QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUE ON THE RIGHT.

UM, SO IN THE EXAMPLE OF THE VENT THAT YOU'VE SHOWN, UH, ONE OF 'EM WAS A TRUE VENT AND THE OTHER ONE LOOKED MORE LIKE A WINDOW.

CORRECT.

UH, WHAT ARE, WHICH ONE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF STYLE? THE ACTUAL VENT, THE SQUARE VENT? UM, WE'VE ALREADY, YEP, THIS ONE.

THIS ONE? YEP.

UM, AND WOULD IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT A VENT INTO THIS FACADE THAT, UM, YOU NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT WHERE YOU POSITION IT IN RELATIONSHIP TO, UH, THE GABLE.

THIS ONE IS REALLY NICELY PROPORTIONED, MUCH MORE CLOSELY, I WOULD SAY, TO YOUR ACTUAL HOUSE, UM, THAN SOME OF THE OTHER PICTURES THAT WERE SHOWN FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

UH, SO I THINK THAT IF YOU WERE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT YOU NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT THE PROPORTIONS ARE.

THIS IS MORE RECLINE THAN IT IS SQUARE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DETAIL TO NOTE.

CAN I, UM, SO IS THIS, UH, PROPORTION, THIS KIND OF AREA HERE, WE'RE TALKING LIKE FOOT, WAS THAT FOUR OR SO SLATS DOWN, UH, PIECES OF SIDING DOWN? IS THAT WHAT YOU PREFER IS WHAT YOU I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE.

MORE APPROPRIATE IF YOU COULD GO TO THE, A PICTURE OF HIS FRONT FACADE.

AND THAT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT HERE AS WELL.

THAT, THAT ACTUAL PHOTO, THIS IS PRETTY IN KEEPING, I THINK WITH THE ACTUAL PICTURE OF YOUR ROOF MORE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER EXAMPLES.

ARE YOU ABLE TO ZOOM IN ON THAT AT ALL, ADRIAN? NO.

NO.

OH, AND YOU NOTICE THAT THE WINDOWS ARE, ARE MORE RECLINE, SO IN TERMS OF VERTICAL.

SO I THINK THAT THAT VENT SHOULD MATCH THAT IDEA MORE THAN GOING SQUARE UP THERE.

UM, AND THEN I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

THAT'S, AND YOU ARE GONNA KEEP THIS ORIGINAL HORIZONTAL SIDING, CORRECT? YEP.

ALL THE WAY UP.

YEP.

RIGHT.

UM, YEAH, SO IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PICTURE WE HAD JUST LOOKED AT WITH THE GABLE VENT AND WE JUST KIND OF ENVISION IT HERE, MAYBE FOUR PIECES OF THAT SIDING DOWN, STARTING THE TOP OF THAT GABLE VENT MM-HMM .

I THINK THAT'S PERFECT.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD, I'M GLAD YOU OBSERVED THAT.

'CAUSE THAT'S A, I THINK MY GUYS PROBABLY WOULD'VE JUST THROWN IT UP THERE IN THE CENTER SOMEWHERE, SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PROPORTIONATE TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I WILL HAVE SOME COMMENTS WHEN WE'RE AT THAT POINT.

TO ADD, IF I CAN REAL QUICK ALSO, UM, ON THIS, WE KNOW CAMP OUTPOST IS HERE.

UM, COREY, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE APPROPRIATENESS OF A RIBBON DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF A HOME OF THIS PERIOD.

UH, HOW IS THAT AND WHAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE? WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN NATHAN AS FAR AS DRIVEWAYS? HAS IT JUST BEEN SOLID SLABS? NATHAN'S A NEWER DISTRICT AND YEAH, MANY OF THEM HAVE VERY SMALL YARDS AND HAVE HISTORICALLY NOT HAD ANY SORT OF PARKING ON SITE.

UM, THERE WAS A REQUEST MAYBE LAST YEAR FOR A SIMILAR PARKING PAD IN THE FRONT YARD.

I THINK HE HAD LESS ROOM ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

AND SO THAT PRESENTED SOME ISSUES AND THAT REQUEST WAS DENIED.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD ONE THAT WAS APPROVED.

UM, RIBBON DRIVEWAYS, YOU DO SEE IN OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, THEY WERE PRETTY PREDOMINANT KIND OF IN THE THIRTIES AND FORTIES, AND YOU DO SEE THEM IN OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE DEVELOPED DURING THAT TIME AS THE ORIGINAL DRIVEWAY.

AND SOMETIMES THEY'VE BEEN ADDED IN LATELY OR LATER ON.

UM, BUT YEAH, HISTORICALLY, LIKE THESE REALLY OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SMALL FRONT YARDS WOULD NOT HAVE HAD ONSITE PARKING.

UM, THE GUIDELINES DO ALLOW FOR THAT, UM, WITH PARAMETERS, YOU KNOW, NO WIDER THAN 10 FEET AND NOT KIND OF IN THE FRONT, UH, PLANE OF THE, OF THE HOME.

UM, AND SO WE DO FIND THAT THIS MEETS GUIDELINES.

UM, BUT YEAH, LIKE AS FAR AS LIKE THE BEST SOLUTION, THERE'S NOT REALLY A, A, A KIT OF PARTS TO REFERENCE FROM FOR SOMETHING OF THIS VINTAGE.

I'D LIKE

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THERE'S AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

THE PARKING HERE IS ATROCIOUS, UM, THREE DAYS OUTTA THE WEEK.

AND I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THERE.

THEY HAVE 45 EMPLOYEES AND 10 PARKING SPACES, SO EVERYONE PARKS ON THE STREETS BEHIND, WHICH IS RE DANIEL AND, UM, UH, SUITE HERE.

AND SO BETWEEN THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM AND CAMP OUTPOST AND THE CUMMINGS AND GOINGS, UH, THE PARKING IS REALLY TERRIBLE.

UH, IT'S ACTUALLY UNSAFE.

I'VE COMPLAINED TO OUR SAFE OFFICERS.

UM, THE, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY TWO STOP SIGNS WHERE THERE REALLY SHOULD BE A FOUR-WAY STOP HERE, I'VE ALMOST BEEN HIT MULTIPLE TIMES.

I'M AWARE THAT THERE'S ONLY TWO STOP SIGNS.

MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT.

UM, SO I THINK MORE, UM, AND I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT ON RE STREET, UH, 75% OF THE HOMES DO HAVE, UM, A DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.

SO, UM, AND I HAVE PICTURES OF THEM, ESPECIALLY ALL THE ONES RIGHT DIRECTLY AROUND ME.

UM, BUT THE PARKING IS TERRIBLE.

UH, IT REALLY IS.

SO THE MORE, I THINK THE MORE CARS WE CAN GET OFF THE STREET, THE BETTER.

UM, AND MATTER OF FACT, ANYTIME I GO OVER TO RE IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO PARK.

THERE'S ALWAYS CARS ON THE STREET, SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A ONE, AT LEAST ONE DEDICATED PARKING SPOT FOR THAT HOUSE.

I, I'VE WITNESSED THAT, CHRIS, IF BAD GOING THROUGH THERE, IF YOU GO THROUGH SUITE, ESPECIALLY ON SUITE.

OH, IT'S, UH, IT'S TERRIBLE.

IT IS.

UM, AND WHILE I DO HEAR OF, OR I SEE THE CONCERN FROM, UH, KING WILLIAM, UH, I JUST, LIKE I MENTIONED, IT'S, IT'S TERRIBLE, UH, DRIVING THROUGH NATHAN AND IT'S TOUGH.

IT'S, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT UNSAFE ACTUALLY.

YEP.

UM, AND THEN AS, UH, COMMISSIONER GARCIA MENTIONED, UM, JUST ENCOURAGING YOU TO GO WITH SOMETHING LONGER, UH, VERSUS, UH, STOUT FOR SURE.

FOR THE WIDER .

UM, ON THAT GABLE VENT.

UH, AGAIN, PROPORTIONAL TO THOSE WINDOWS, UH, LIKE SOMETHING LONGER YEAH.

LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT OTHERWISE I, I'M FINE WITH EVERYTHING.

I AGREE.

UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, COMMENTS NOW.

UH, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON MY LEFT, ON MY RIGHT? YES, GO AHEAD.

UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS HORIZONTAL BAND THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN PUTTING, UH, TO BREAK UP THE, THIS FRONT FACADE.

AND, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS HOUSE IN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WAYS IS VERY KIND OF, UM, A PLAIN VERNACULAR OF THIS STYLE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAIL.

LIKE SOME DO, IT DOESN'T HAVE DETAIL LIKE THIS, UH, THE IMAGE THAT WE'RE SEEING UP THERE.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT, IT'S DIFFERENT AND IT DOESN'T HAVE SOME OF THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILING THAT SOME OF THE OTHER HOUSES HAS HAVE.

BUT THAT, THAT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT.

UH, THIS IDEA OF PUTTING A GABLE VENT IN, I THINK, UM, IS FAIRLY, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? UM, NOT, NOT REALLY DAMAGING TO THE PRESENTATION OF THE FACADE TO THE STREET.

UH, AND IT'S, IT'S A GREAT THING TO HAVE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A CLIMATE THAT THINGS HEAT UP THERE.

AND SO FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

THIS HORIZONTAL BAND.

HOWEVER, UM, CAN YOU BRING UP A PICTURE OF HIS PROPERTY PLEASE? UH, DOES HE HAVE SIDE, DOES HE HAVE BATTEN BOARDS ON THE SIDE? UM, OH, THEY'VE JUST BEEN TAKEN OFF.

THEY'VE BEEN TAKEN.

AND THEN CONTINUE IT CONTINUES THE NORMAL SIDING ALL THE WAY DOWN.

I, I THINK THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN BEAUTY TO THE, THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE VERTICALITY OF THIS FACADE THAT YOU BREAKING IT UP BY PUTTING THAT HORIZONTAL BOARD THERE IS GOING TO, UH, CHANGE THE LOOK OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO DO IT AND TO CELEBRATE INSTEAD THE KIND OF SIMPLICITY OF THIS FACADE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT MORE UNIQUE THAN ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE IN THIS BLOCK.

AND IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU TO, YOU KNOW, CELEBRATE THAT.

UNDERSTOOD.

UM, MAY I ADD THAT, UM, THE IDEA OF ALTERNATING COLORS ON THE GABLE, UM, SIDING UP TOP MM-HMM .

I FEEL AS THOUGH THAT HORIZONTAL KIND OF BREAKS IT UP.

OTHERWISE, WHERE DO I STOP? DO I JUST PICK A STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FACADE

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I FEEL LIKE THAT LITTLE BIT LARGER PIECE ACROSS WILL JUST KIND OF GIVE IT A GOOD BREAKUP.

UM, IT'S, THIS ISN'T LIKE A, A THING THAT I WOULD, UH, IT'S NOT A HILL.

I WOULD DIE ON HAVING THAT, BUT I JUST THINK IT KIND OF BREAKS IT UP PRETTY WELL.

I DON'T, WELL, I WOULD ARGUE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ALTERNATE THE COLORS TOP AND BOTTOM.

TRUE.

AND THAT'D BE A GOOD ARGUMENT.

I COULD GO EITHER WAY.

IT WAS THE ONE THAT A COMMISSIONER SUGGESTED, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A, I WAS LIKE, OH, THAT'S A BANG UP IDEA.

SO, YEAH.

AND I CAME INTO THE MEETING LATE, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR, YOU KNOW, NOT MAKING SOME OF THESE COMMENTS THEN, UM, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA SPEAK TO SOMETHING I WASN'T FULLY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT HAD GONE ON ALREADY.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS FACADE AND I SEE VERY SIMPLE BEAUTY HERE, WHICH MAKES IT DIFFERENT PERHAPS FROM SOME OF THE OTHER HOUSES ON THE STREET.

AND I THINK THE INCLINATION IS TO MAKE IT MATCH.

BUT I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT THE VENT IN THERE, IT'S GONNA GIVE IT A FOCAL POINT ANYWAY.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE ENOUGH IF IT HAS THE RIGHT PROPORTIONS AND IT'S LOCATED, UH, PROPERLY IN TERMS OF UP CLOSE UNDER THAT VENT, UH, UNDER THE GABLE, I THINK IT'LL LOOK GREAT.

SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.

IS IT, AND I'M, I'M GOOD WITH SIMPLE, UM, THE OLD, UH, SAYING KISS, KEEP IT SIMPLE, STUPID, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

UM, AND I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

IF I DO DECIDE TO DO THE ALTERNATING COLORS INSTEAD OF JUST ONE COLOR ON THE WHOLE FRONT FACADE WITHOUT IT BEING BROKEN UP.

LIKE YOU, YOU GUYS SAID THAT YOU WOULD STAFF WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THE ALTERNATING COLORS WITHOUT IT BEING BROKEN UP.

DO YOU STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT? NO.

UM, GENERALLY WE DON'T REGULATE, UM, PAINT COLORS, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD ALWAYS BE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO SHOW US A RENDERING.

SURE.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE, WE SHOULD BE FINE.

IF I DECIDED TO DO THAT, I'D PROBABLY TEST IT OUT JUST TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND IF IT, IF IT TOOK AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY OR SOMETHING, THE PAINTING OF THE COLORS, THEN I WOULD JUST PUT IT BACK.

I, NOT A BIG DEAL.

I'D SAY THE, THE ALTERNATING COLORS MIGHT MAKE IT A LITTLE TOO BUSY.

YOU JUST, LIKE SHE MENTIONED, UH, KEEP IT SIMPLE.

UH, JUST ADDING THAT, THE GABLE VENT THAT'S LIKE A LITTLE CHERRY ON TOP AND THAT THAT'S ALL YOU NEED IT.

YEAH, I AGREE.

AND, UH, YOU JUST KEEP THE COLORS.

AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE PURVIEW OVER COLOR TO AN EXTENT.

AND THEN, UM, JUST ADD THAT GABLE VENT AND I THINK YOU'D BE GOLDEN.

COOL.

UM, I LIKE THE SIMPLE ASPECT.

ANY OTHER S GO AHEAD.

UH, OR SORRY, COMMENTS? VICE VASQUEZ.

ONE THING I'LL, I WILL MENTION, NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT, BUT I THINK OVER AT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE TWO 18 SWEET STREET.

MM-HMM .

UM, THERE IS A, A, A SIM SIMILAR L SORT OF WITH A SIDE GABLE NOW IT HAS BOTH A WINDOW AND A VENT AT THE TOP, UM, AND THE HORIZONTAL, UH, CROSS SECTION AND UM, SEAT OF SHAKE.

BUT IT DOES GIVE YOU A POTENTIAL EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU CAN USE, UH, DIFFERENT COLOR PATTERNS.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

UH, I'M VERY ATTRACTED TO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD LOOK GREAT WITHOUT HAVING THE HORIZONTAL BREAKUP IN BETWEEN.

SO, UM, IF I CAN'T GET THE HORIZONTAL BREAKUP, I MAY JUST DO ONE COLOR ON THE FRONT FACADE AND JUST DO A NICE TRIM, UH, PAINT THE, ALL THE TRIM THAT'S AROUND IT.

JUST A NICE COLOR.

SO IS IT THIS ONE COMMISSIONER THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT.

THAT'S THE ONE MR. GALLEGOS.

WAS THAT IT, CHRIS? YES.

UM, GREAT.

WE'RE DONE WITH COMMENTS.

UH, WE'RE GONNA, SOMEBODY'S GONNA ATTEMPT TO CRAFT A MOTION HERE AS CREATIVELY AS WE CAN BASICALLY JUST RECOMMENDATIONS.

RIGHT? LET'S SEE.

YOU WANNA, YEAH.

SHOOT.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UM, ONE AND TWO, UM, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF, UH, SIZE, SHAPE, AND LOCATION OF THAT VENT.

AND THEN, OH, LET'S SEE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

YES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

ON, ON ALL THREE ACTUALLY, BECAUSE STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS THE ORIGINAL SIGHTING ON THE FRONT FACING GABLE BE RETAINED IN PLACE.

AND YOU'VE AGREED TO THAT.

SO, UM,

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ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANKS FOR HELPING ME, Y'ALL.

I APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH, THANKS FOR WORKING WITH US PROACTIVELY, .

IT'S SO NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LIKE A BACK AND FORTH AND COME TO A .

YEP.

THANKS FOR COMING TO THE DRC AND, UH, DOING IT AGAIN PROACTIVELY.

THANK.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THIS YOU ADRIAN? UM, WERE WE MOVING ON TO, OKAY, JUST MAKING SURE.

OKAY, COMMISSIONERS.

SO THIS IS CT A P CASE 2026 DASH 0 6 8 FOR 4 4 7 FUR.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO INSTALL AN 18 INCH HIGH CONCRETE MASONRY UNIT RETAINING WALL ALONG THE LENGTH OF THE SIDEWALK PARALLEL TO FUR DRIVE.

STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMIT AN UPDATED PROPOSAL FOR REVIEW, COMPRISED OF A LOW LANDSCAPING WALL MADE OF APPROPRIATE MATERIALS, AND THAT MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE VIRTUALLY.

UM, AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL BRING HIM ON IF, IF HE'S ONLINE.

AND THEN THERE IS, UM, SOMEBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS ITEM.

AND THEN I WILL NOTE COMMISSIONERS THAT THIS IS A VIOLATION CASE AS WELL.

AND SO IS, IS THE APPLICANT ONLINE? UH, JOE, I'M WORKING TO ADAM RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

THERE WE GO.

MR. WEINBERG, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO UNMUTE, UM, AND PRESENT AT THIS TIME.

ARE YOU THERE? IT'D PROBABLY HELP IF I UNMUTED MYSELF.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, YEAH, I APOLOGIZE.

I'M NOT ABLE TO BE THERE IN PERSON TODAY.

I WOULD'VE RATHER BEEN THERE IN PERSON, BUT I JUST COULDN'T, COULDN'T GET AWAY FROM, FROM WORK FOR THAT LONG.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UM, TAKING THE TIME TO, TO LISTEN THROUGH, UH, MY CASE TODAY.

UM, I HAD, UH, GIVEN THIS DOCUMENT OVER TO ADRIAN, SO IT'S BEING DISPLAYED RIGHT NOW.

CAN EVERYONE SEE IT? YES, WE CAN.

IT SHOULD BE VISIBLE.

WE WENT AHEAD AND SUBMITTED, UM, EVERYTHING THROUGH, UM, THE OHP.

UM, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND READ FROM THIS, UH, JUST SO I MAKE SURE I GET ALL MY, UM, MY POINTS IN.

SO OVER THE PAST, UM, SEVERAL YEARS, UM, UH, I BEGAN TO LOSE MY FRONT SLOPING YARD AT 4, 4 7 FOR A DRIVE, MOSTLY DUE TO JUST DROUGHT AND EROSION.

IT'S, IT'S JUST BEEN, IT'S BEEN TOUGH THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

THE, THE, THE LACK OF RAIN AND THE FACT THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY SHADE IN MY FRONT YARD, UM, COUPLED WITH THE, YOU KNOW, JUST WATER RESTRICTION AND IT LEADS TO BECOMING HARDER AND HARDER EACH YEAR TO MAINTAIN THE GRASS.

UM, SO THE SLOPING NATURE OF THE YARD, COMBINED WITH THE EROSION OF THE SOIL CAUSED LARGE AMOUNTS OF DIRT AND MUD, UH, THEN TO SLOUGH OFF ONTO MY SIDEWALKS AND ONTO MY DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF MY RESIDENCE.

UM, THE TYPE OF SOIL TURNS INTO VERY STICKY AND SLIPPERY MUD WHEN WET.

THIS MEANT THAT AFTER A RAINSTORM, I NEEDED TO QUICKLY SCRAPE AND REMOVE MUD TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM SLIPPING AND INJURING THEMSELVES.

UH, THE REASON FOR THE RETAINING WALL IS TO MAINTAIN HEALTH AND SAFETY OF MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS.

MY CHILDREN HAVE FALLEN AND SLIPPED MULTIPLE TIMES TRYING TO GET INTO THE CAR.

UM, MY 104 YEAR OLD GRANDFATHER NEARLY SLIPPED AND FELL IN JANUARY, 2026.

I WAS SPEAKING LAST NIGHT WITH MY MOTHER-IN-LAW.

SHE FELL, UM, AT SOME POINT.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, LUCKILY I WAS ABLE TO TO GRAB MY GRANDFATHER AT THE TIME AND HE DIDN'T FALL DOWN, BUT IT WAS, IT'S, IT'S PRECARIOUS WHEN IT RAINS FOR SURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF MY FAMILY'S OUTTA TOWN AND IT RAINS, UH, THERE'S NO ONE TO REMOVE, YOU KNOW, THE DEPOSITS OF SOIL AND MUD FROM THE SIDEWALK.

UM, YET I, I, I, YOU KNOW, BELIEVE I COULD STILL POTENTIALLY REMAIN LIABLE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE WOULD BECOME INJURED DUE TO THE, THE DANGEROUS MUD SLICK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

UM, SO BELOW, YOU KNOW, I, THIS IS KIND OF JUST SOME DIFFERENT PHOTOS OF THE YARD PRIOR TO YEAH, I'VE GOT, I THINK I HAVE FIVE PHOTOS HERE.

JUST YOU CAN SEE THAT JUST, IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAINTAIN THE GRASS, EVEN WHEN I WATER IT, IT TENDS TO, TO SLOUGH OFF.

UM, THE WATER RUNS OFF.

AND THEN, UM, BELOW THAT IS THE AFTER PICTURES.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAD, WE HAD RECEIVED A STOP WORK ORDER ON FEBRUARY 28TH.

UM, THE CONTRACTOR THAT I WAS WORKING WITH, I DON'T BELIEVE HAD WORKED MAYBE, MAYBE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BEFORE THIS.

UM, I HAD TALKED TO HIM ABOUT PULLING, YOU KNOW, THE APPROPRIATE PERMITS FOR THE WORK, UM, IN WHICH HE HAD HE, HE SAID THAT HE DID.

UM, SO WE GOT A STOP WORK ORDER, UM, ON THE 28TH, AND THEN

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UH, THEY WENT AHEAD AND APPROVED THE, UM, EVERYTHING ELSE EXCEPT FOR THE RETAINING WALL.

AND SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PICTURE THAT IT IS FINISHED.

AND I APOLOGIZE, THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION.

UM, I THINK THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN ME AND HIM.

WE WERE OUTTA TOWN FOR THE END OF THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD DUE TO THE STOP AND STOPPAGE WORK ORDER.

AND WE HAD SOME RAIN THAT WEEK PRIOR.

AND SO, UM, WE HADN'T BE OUTTA TOWN.

WE WERE ON SPRING BREAK TRIP WITH MY FAMILY, AND, UH, WE CAME BACK AND IT WAS, IT WAS DONE.

SO, UM, THAT'S, I I I'M SORRY THAT IT WAS FINISHED .

THAT WASN'T MY INTENTION.

I'M, I, BY MY NATURE, I'M KIND OF A RULE FOLLOWER AND SOMEONE DOESN'T WANNA KIND OF CONFLICT AVOIDANT.

I WAS HOPING TO NOT HAVE TO BE IN THIS POSITION.

BUT, UM, ANYWAY, UH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SCROLL DOWN.

I JUST HAVE SOME, I THINK THERE WAS SOME, SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE MATERIAL IN, IN THE, IN THE FORM THAT WAS USED.

UM, I DID GO AHEAD AND DO, I PUT TOGETHER JUST A, UM, A LIST HERE OF, I DROVE AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES, UM, THROUGHOUT MONTICELLO PARK.

AND I JUST, I NOTED 16 DIFFERENT EXAMPLES HERE, UH, THAT MATCHED THE SAME MATERIAL AND FORM, UH, OF THE RETAINING WALL THAT WAS INSTALLED AT MY, MY HOME.

UM, SO I WAS TALKING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, IN BACK AND FORTH TO ADRIAN, UH, HE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL RETAINING WALLS OBVIOUSLY NEED A-A-C-O-A.

UM, SO I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT THESE ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A SIMILAR FORM AND, AND MATERIAL HAD ALSO BEEN APPROVED.

UM, SO YEAH, JUST THESE ARE ALL, ALL CMU BASED, UH, RETAINING WALLS WITHIN MONTICELLO PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY MORE THAN THIS.

I, LIKE I SAID, I JUST DROVE AROUND 15 MINUTES AND, AND TOOK SOME PHOTOS.

UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED MY, MY, I GUESS MY, MY CONCLUSION THERE IF YOU GO TO THE BOTTOM IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE IS PRIOR, PRIOR PRECEDENT FOR, UM, A RETAINING WALL WHICH MATCHES, YOU KNOW, OTHER EXAMPLES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE PRESENCE OF OTHER RETAINING WALLS OF A SERIAL MATERIAL, IT DOES MAINTAIN A COHESIVE CHARACTER.

SO THAT'S ALL MY, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL MY INITIAL COMMENTS THAT I HAVE.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER, UM, FOR THIS COMMISSIONERS.

HELLO, BIANCA MALDONADO WITH MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

OKAY, BIANCA MALDONADO, MS. MALDONADO WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

TOM SIMMONS IS HERE AND IS YIELD AT THIS TIME.

PO BOX 1 0 0 3 1 5, I'M THE CURRENT PRESIDENT FRONT YARD EARTH AND BERMS ARE A CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE WITHIN THE MONTICELLO PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.

VERY FEW HISTORIC DISTRICTS HAVE THIS UNIQUE FEATURE.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR CTAP TO AFFIRM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED, SEEKS TO INTRODUCE FLAT WORK, WHICH IS INCONGRUENT WITH OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE HISTORY MPNA ADVOCATED AND RECEIVED BOND FUNDING FOR THE ENTIRE STREET, THE ONE TO THE 500 BLOCKS OF FUR DRIVE DURING THE 2017 AND 2022 BOND PROCESS.

OUR COMMUNITY WAS EXTREMELY FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE THESE PUBLIC DOLLARS TO EXECUTE THIS PROJECT THAT OCCURRED IN 2021 AND 2022.

THE BOND PROJECT RECONSTRUCTED ALL DRIVEWAY APPROACHES, SIDEWALKS, CURBS, AND RESURFACE THE STREET.

AS PART OF THE EXECUTION OF THIS PROJECT, THE CITY ENGINEERS WITH THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEWED THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THESE IMPROVEMENT.

THE CITY ENGINEERS REVIEWED THE NEED FOR RETAINING WALLS AND REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING WALLS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND NO NEW RETAINING WALLS WERE RECOMMENDED.

THE EXECUTION OF THIS PROJECT WAS RESPECTFUL OF OUR CHARACTERISTICS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AT 4 4 7 FUR, THERE IS ONLY ONE SINGLE STEP APPROACH FROM THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK TO THE APPROACH THAT LEADS TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THIS HOME.

IF YOU GO TO GOOGLE EARTH, THERE IS A 2022 IMAGE THAT SHOWS THE EXECUTION OF THE BOND PROJECT AND THE KEEPING OF THE EARTH AND BERM AND THE ADDITIONAL SOD PAID FOR BY PUBLIC DOLLARS.

AND THE MAINTAINING OF THAT GRAY THAT THAT WAS EXECUTED.

THE PROPOSED RETAINING WALL ADDS A HARSH BREAK IN THE FRONT OF THE HOME AND THEN FORMS CORNERS AS IT RETURNS TOWARDS THE HOUSE ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE PROPERTY LINES.

THESE HARSH CORNERS ADD COMPLICATIONS TO THE APPLICANT'S DRIVEWAY AND THAT OF THEIR NEIGHBOR.

WHEN A CAR IS PARKED AND DOORS ARE OPENING AND CLOSING, THE PROPOSED WALL SEEKS TO FLATTEN

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THE FRONT YARD AND REMOVE THE BERM.

THE APPLICANT SHOWS A PHOTO OF SEVERAL RETAINING WALLS, AND IF YOU'D LIKE, I COULD GO HOUSE BY HOUSE ON WHICH ONES HAVE A C OF A AND WHICH ONES DO NOT.

UM, BUT MOST OF THE ONES THAT YOU'RE SEEING WERE EITHER ADDED AT THE REVIEW OF AN ENGINEER ON NORTH DRIVE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY RECEIVING COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION JUST LIKE FUR DRIVE DID.

UM, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT FUR DRIVE, WHAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING ARE ALL THE BERMS THAT ARE BEING RESTORED WITH SIGNIFICANT MORE SLOPE THAN THE PROPOSED APPLICANT.

IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT A LACK OF MAINTENANCE AND A LACK OF HAVING SOME TYPE OF PLANTING IN THAT FRONT BERM HAS CAUSED THE SITUATION FOR EROSION.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORTS OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT AND EDUCATES OUR RESIDENTS ON THE NEED FOR A C OF A, AND THEY RECEIVE THAT NEWSLETTER REGARDLESS IF YOU'RE A DUES PAIN MEMBER SIX TIMES A YEAR.

SO WE REALLY TRY TO GO THE EXTRA MILE AND REALLY ADVOCATE FOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND TO EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT THE NEED.

WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE APPLICANT LOOK AT SHADE TREES AND NATIVE PLANTS AND TO MAINTAIN THAT FRONT CHARACTER DEFINING BERM.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF OUR COMMENTS.

AND WE ALSO NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT DID RECEIVE A C OF A FROM OHP IN 2025.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT? NO.

UM, NO COMMISSIONER, NO VICE CHAIR.

UM, SO A AGAIN, JUST THAT THIS WAS A VIOLATION CASE AND THE CITATION IS THERE IN THE CASE FILE.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT SAYS ALLOT ALONE.

UH, QUESTIONS FROM COLLEAGUES ON MY LEFT.

GO AHEAD, MIKE.

ON THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION UPDATE PROPOSAL, APPROPRIATE MATERIALS, COMMISSIONERS, YOUR MIC ON WHAT WOULD BE, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF APPROPRIATE MATERIALS.

AND SO, UM, FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE WOULD, WE WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW IT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR GUIDELINES DO, UM, STATE THAT SOMETHING LIKE A LOW STONE, FOR EXAMPLE, LOW STONE, UM, NOT EVEN A RETAINING WALL BUT EDGING, YOU KNOW, COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER, UM, ELIGIBLE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.

SO AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW IT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, STONE IS ONE OF THOSE, UH, MATERIALS THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR, UH, FOR THIS HISTORIC DISTRICT VERSUS THE CMU, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS OUTLINED IN THE GUIDELINES SPECIFICALLY TO AVOID, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE MASONRY UNITS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT ONE IS, IS IS DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD CONSIDER.

TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE STONE.

YEAH, SO, UM, AGAIN, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE.

SO SOMETHING AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE IN THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, IT, WE WOULD, WE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A LOW, A VERY LOW LANDSCAPING WALL.

THAT DOESN'T EVEN SEEM APPROPRIATE.

SO MAYBE JUST LIKE A LITTLE STEEL EDGING, LIKE POSSIBLY.

AND SO, UM, AGAIN THOUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE, MORE IN KEEPING WITH, UM, WITH THE GUIDELINES.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE NORTH TENDS TO HAVE A MUCH STEEPER APPROACH, UH, ALONG THE, THE PROPERTIES.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COLLEAGUES ON MY LEFT.

GO AHEAD, CHRIS.

JUST TO MAKE SURE I, I FOLLOW, UM, THE WINDING PATH THAT GOT US HERE SO FAR.

IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE, THERE WAS SOME WORK DONE IN 2025 BASED ON THE COA AND THEN Y'ALL CAME, Y'ALL WERE NOTIFIED ON, ON OR ABOUT FEBRUARY 27TH IT ISSUED A STOP WORK AND THERE WAS A NEW COA FILED ON THE 28TH.

AND THEN THERE IS THIS COA FROM MARCH 6TH, BUT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE, UM, THE RETAINING WALL.

CORRECT COMMISSIONER? SO, UM, I, I CAN'T COMMENT AT THE MOMENT FOR THE 2025 COA, I'D HAVE TO PULL UP OUR HISTORY, BUT OF COURSE THAT'S PUBLIC RECORD, RIGHT? WE COULD OBVIOUSLY ACCESS THAT LATER.

SO ONCE THEY PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, A AS WE NORMALLY DO, RIGHT, WE DIVIDE IT INTO ELEMENTS THAT WE CAN APPROVE ADMINISTRATIVELY AND OTHERS THAT REQUIRE COMMISSION APPROVAL.

SO INITIALLY THEY HAD WANTED, UM, UM, TO REPLACE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE RIBBON DRIVEWAY AND YOU KNOW, AND WE HAD INFORMED THEM OF COURSE THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO, YOU KNOW, TO YOU GUYS FOR APPROVAL.

AND SO THEY WERE OKAY WITH THE IN-KIND RIBBON REPLACEMENT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE C OF A, RIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY THE LANDSCAPING IN KIND REPLACEMENT OF THE, UH, FRONT WALKWAY AS WELL AS RIBBON DRIVEWAY INSTALLATION.

AND THEN WE NOTE, OF COURSE, UM, AT THE BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE INSTALLATION OF OTHER SITE ELEMENTS IS NOT APPROVED AT THIS TIME.

AND THAT SPECIFICALLY RELATES TO THE, UM, TO THE RETAINING WALL.

I HAVE ALL THANK YOU.

AND ONE FOLLOW UP, I'M MY MEMORY'S HAZY HERE, BUT I'M, I'M GOING ON THE PHOTOS THAT WERE SUBMITTED IN THE LATE FILE, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE FROM NORTH

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UM, WOULD THAT BE A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION? WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT COMMISSIONER.

SO, I MEAN, I, CAN I, CAN I COMMENT HERE? IS THAT OKAY? GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

I, I, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE PROCEDURE, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I'M, I'M, UH, BUTTING IN.

UM, I, I, I DON'T DUNNO IF I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY ARE FROM NORTH OR FOUR OF THEM ARE FROM NORTH.

UM, UNLIKE BIANCA HAD MENTIONED THAT THAT WAS PART OF A, A LARGER WORK PROJECT I WAS UNAWARE OF.

BUT, UM, I DID, UH, DID GO AHEAD AND TAKE PICTURES OF THEM, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE ON, THERE ARE SOME FROM FROM FUR.

I MEAN, MY INTENTION HERE WAS TO KEEP IT AS LOW PROFILE AS I POSSIBLY COULD.

UM, BOTH THE ONES FROM THE 2, 3 51 FUR IS VERY, VERY SIMILAR.

UM, THREE 17 IS, IS NOT QUITE AS SIMILAR.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT WIDER, AND IT'S, UM, JUST ACROSS THE FRONT, YOU SCROLL UP A A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM THERE.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE FOUR FOUR, WHICH IS, THIS IS ALSO HIGHER THAN THE, THE ONE THAT, UM, WAS INSTALLED.

UM, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SIMILAR FORM AND FUNCTION THERE, UM, FOR THE TO RETAINING WALL.

I MEAN, A A AGAIN, THE REASONING BEHIND THIS IS, IS REALLY SAFETY RELATED.

I MEAN, I, IT'S JUST, IT'S BECOME A PROBLEM WITH THE MUD.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S QUITE A FEW COMMENTS ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE WITHIN MONTICELLO PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE ISSUE OF MUD ON THE SIDEWALKS, UM, WITH, UH, JUST THE LACK OF RAIN.

AND IT'S JUST A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A PROBLEM AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S MY ASSESSMENT.

I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUILT IN SOME KIND OF A FORM OF RETAINING WALL ON SLOPED YARDS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MAY, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN, CAN KEEP THE SOIL WITHIN THERE, WITHIN THEIR YARD.

NOT JUST, NOT JUST WITH THE, NOT JUST OUT OF CMU, BUT OUT OF, OUT OF ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS, WHETHER THAT'S LANDSCAPING, BRICKS, OR, UM, OTHER MATERIALS.

THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS FOR NOW.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? NO.

ANY OTHER ON MY LEFT? NO.

AM I RIGHT? UM, SIR, WERE YOU AWARE WHEN YOU MOVED INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT HAD GUIDELINES, UM, THAT PERTAINED TO, UH, THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? THAT IT WAS A HISTORIC DISTRICT? YES.

AND IT WAS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I, I, I ONLY BECAME AWARE, I GUESS, OF DESIGN GUIDELINES RECENTLY AS PART OF THIS CASE.

I MEAN, OTHER WORK THAT WE'VE HAD DONE TO THE HOUSE.

UM, THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE'VE HIRED HAVE ALL, YOU KNOW, UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, HAD, HAD FOLLOWED THE OHP GUIDELINES, UM, TO GET A COA.

UM, AND I ASSUME THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING AGAIN, UN DISCIPLINE.

AND SO I, I DO A, I REALLY, LIKE I SAID, I, I WAS NOT, I WAS NOT TRYING TO SKIRT AROUND AN ISSUE.

UM, I, I WAS REALLY TRYING TO DO WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.

UM, AND I'M SORRY THAT WE'RE IN THIS POSITION.

UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S REGRETTABLE.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT WHAT I, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO HAPPEN.

RIGHT.

UM, YES, I AGREE THAT IT IS RE REGRETTABLE.

UM, AND I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.

LET'S JUMP TO IT.

I'D LIKE TO SUP, MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND.

CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? DAVIS? AYE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, SIR.

CAN I JUST HAVE ONE, CAN I ASK ONE FOLLOW ON QUESTION? IS THAT POSSIBLE? IT'S GOING TO, YOU'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH OHP AFTER THE OKAY.

CTAP, CASE NUMBER 2026 DASH 1 0 12 11 SOUTH ALAMO STREET.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ONE, INSTALL A VE VEHICLE GATE AND FIXED GATE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE IN FRONT OF THE FRONT FACADE.

WALL PLANE TWO, INSTALL A SIX FOOT TALL FENCE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOT.

THREE, INSTALL A FOUR FOOT TALL TRANSPARENT WOODEN FINS AT THE FRONT YARD.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO INSTALL A SIX FOOT TALL VEHICULAR GATE AND FENCES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATION.

ONE THAT THE APPLICANT INSTALL THE FENCE, A GATE BEHIND THE FRONT FACADE WALL PLANE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO INSTALL A WOOD PRIVACY FENCE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOT WITHIN THE FRONT YARD WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.

ONE THAT THE APPLICANT INSTALL A FENCE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOT THAT DOES NOT EXCEED FOUR FEET IN HEIGHT.

AND FINALLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO INSTALL A FOUR FOOT TALL TRANSPARENT WOOD PICKET FENCE AT THE FRONT YARD.

THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE IN PERSON TO DISCUSS THEIR CASE.

UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF, YOU'LL HAVE 12 MINUTES TO, UH, WALK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR REQUEST.

AND, UH, WE ARE OKAY WITH ALL OF THE SIZES OF AND OF THE, OF THE FENCES.

UH, MY NAME IS WILLIAM CAMILLA, OWNER OF 1211 SOUTH ALAMO.

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WHAT WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST IS THAT IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND PLACE THE DRIVEWAY GATE, UH, ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PORCH.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT, THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS.

UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL GO INTO THE YARD TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES AND TO FORGIVE ME, BUT VOMIT THIS PAST WEEK.

UH, THERE'S A, UH, FOOD CART OR COFFEE CART ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE THAT SELLS COFFEE.

THE PEOPLE THROW CIGARETTE BUTTS, UH, ON ONTO THE YARD.

WE ARE GONNA PUT THAT LITTLE FENCE ALONG THE SIDEWALK.

UH, THE ONLY REQUEST THAT WE'RE HERE FOR IS THAT WE, WE, IF WE COULD PLACE THE DRIVEWAY GATE RIGHT ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PORCH.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT ALSO IS THAT THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR IS A TWO STORY HOME WITH THE TOP BEING AIRBNB AND THE BOTTOM TENANTS, THEY HAVE TENANTS THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A SIX MONTH LEASE OR A 12 MONTH LEASE, BUT, BUT THERE'S TENANTS AT THE BOTTOM AND THEY HAVE A NARROW DRIVEWAY.

AND, AND WHEN YOU GO INTO THAT AIRBNB IN THE BACK, THERE'S FOUR PARKING SPACES.

THE THING IS THAT THE LAST CAR THAT PARKS IN THAT DRIVEWAY DOES NOT ALLOW THE OTHER ONES TO COME OUT.

SO THEY START PARKING ON OUR PROPERTY.

AND, AND, AND SO BY ALLOWING US TO PUT THAT, WE WANNA PUT A SLIDING GATE.

WE, IT WON'T BE ABLE TO SLIDE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'LL HIT THE, THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

BUT IF WE PUT IT RIGHT ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PORCH, IT'LL ALLOW, ALLOW IT TO SLIDE RIGHT, RIGHT ALONG THE, THE FRONT PORCH.

UM, LET'S SEE.

THE, THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT THERE'S PEOPLE BERRIA, THERE'S A NEW BUSINESS THERE.

THEY ALSO WANT TO USE THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAY TO PARK THERE TO EITHER BY VIDEO OR COFFEE, UH, DURING, UH, FIRST FRIDAY.

IT'S ALSO AN ISSUE.

THEY USED THE DRIVEWAY FOR PARKING.

SO BY HAVING THE GATE CLOSER TO THE STREET, IT WOULD KEEP THEM FROM PARKING THERE.

UH, ALSO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN, UH, BOTH OF US, MY WIFE AND I, THERE'S TWO CARS DRIVING IN.

IF WE HAVE AN AUTOMATIC GATE, YOU PRESS ON THE ON, ON THE CONTROL, THE GATE OPENS AND YOU DRIVE IN.

AND THE SPEEDING CARS DON'T HAVE TO COME TO A HALT AND START HONKING AT US.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO DRIVE IN THERE FASTER.

UM, RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SOME HOUSES IN THAT SAME STREET THAT HAVE GATES RIGHT ALONG THE, UM, LINE OF THE SIDEWALK.

UH, AND THAT'S BASICALLY ALL WE'RE, OH, AND THE, THE FENCE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

UH, AS YOU'RE FACING THE HOUSE, UH, WE, WE ALSO WANT RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT WE PLACE IT ALONG THE FRONT LINE OF THE, UH, PORCH.

BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT THE FENCE IS GONNA BE FURTHER BACK, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO USE THAT AREA, UH, TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES AND THROW CIGARETTE BUTTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UH, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A, A FENCE IN THE FRONT AND IT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A LOW FENCE THAT THEY CAN STILL JUMP.

SO WE BASICALLY, WE WE'RE HERE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE PUT BOTH FENCES ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PORCH.

IS THAT, THAT'S IT.

OKAY, GREAT.

UH, WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS NOW FOR MY COLLEAGUES.

IN THIS PICTURE WHERE, SO IN THAT THE, THE TALLER FENCING AND GATE WOULD COME UP TO THE FRONT PORCH, ESSENTIALLY, OF THE HOME.

UM, AND REALLY QUICK, QUICK, BRIAN.

SO LOOKING AT THE PICTURES HERE, HE, UH, THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED WANTING TO INSTALL A, INSTALLED A VEHICULAR GATE AND GATE, FIXED GATE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE IN FRONT AND THE FRONT FACADE WALL PLANE.

CAN YOU,

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AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING THAT IT BE SET BACK TO BE IN LINE WITH THE ACTUAL FRONT WALL PLANE AND NOT THE PORCH PORCH.

SO THAT'S THE ISSUE IS THE STIPULATIONS WOULD, RIGHT.

SO THAT COLUMN WOULD BE WHERE THE, AS PROPOSED WHERE THE FENCE HITS RIGHT THERE.

AND WE'RE SAYING THAT IT NEEDS TO BE BEHIND THAT SECOND COLUMN.

OH, OKAY.

IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED BACK.

AND THEN THE SIX FOOT TALL FENCE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOT, UH, CAN YOU SHOW THAT? OH, YOU WANT A SIX FOOT IN THE, YEAH.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE, THE APPLICANT, SO THE FRONT WALL PLANE IS THE SECTION OF THE WALL THAT HAS LIKE THE WINDOWS AND DOORS, UHHUH .

SO THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING TO INSTALL THE FENCING TO BE IN LINE WITH THE VERY FRONT OF THE PORCH, WHICH IS NOT, UM, UH, NOT RECOMMENDED BY GUIDELINES IN THE FENCE POLICY DOCUMENT.

UM, SO THAT'S LEADING STAFF'S, UM, RECOMMENDATION TO INSTALL THE GATE AND FENCING TO BE BEHIND THAT FRONT WALL PLANE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

UM, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES AGAIN.

UH, ANYONE ON THE LEFT HERE, CHRIS? NO.

ON MY RIGHT.

UM, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE HOUSE IS OCCUPIED AT THE MOMENT.

IS IT A HOUSE YOU'VE BEEN LIVING IN? IT'S, IT'S OCCUPIED NOW.

IT IS.

THERE'S, SO THERE'S PLYWOOD OVER THE WINDOWS, OR IT'S, THERE'S AN OLD PICTURE.

NO, THERE'S, THERE'S NO PLYWOOD OVER THE WINDOWS.

IT'S BEEN, THEY'RE OFF AND IT'S BEEN, UM, AND HAS IT BEEN OCCUPIED FOR A LONG TIME OR IT, IT, IT WASN'T OCCUPIED FOR A WHILE, UH, BUT NOW IT'S, AND OKAY.

UM, I JUST THINK THAT OFTENTIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS IF A HOUSE SITS VACANT, THEN THE PEOPLE OR, UH, THE ACTIVITIES HAPPENING AROUND IT TEND TO SPILL OVER INTO IT IF THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO STOP THEM.

SO THE, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S YOU OR IF YOU RENT IT, BUT WHOEVER LIVES THERE NOW, THOSE, THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE STILL OCCURRING EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS HOME.

IT'S, IT CONTINUES TO BECAUSE, UH, IT'S NEXT TO A COFFEE SHOP.

UH, IT'S NEXT TO BERRIA ON FIRST FRIDAY.

MM-HMM .

IT'S, IT, IT JUST CONTINUES.

I DID WANT TO SHOW YOU, UH, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW, MATT.

IT LOOKS SHE CAN .

NOT QUITE THE BOARDED HOUSE.

THAT .

IT'S REAL PRETTY RIGHT NOW.

IT'S GOT BEAUTIFUL FLOWERS AND, UM, UH, YOU CAN SEE IT FROM FAR, BUT IT'S, YEAH, NOW I CAN SEE IT, BUT YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, NO QUESTIONS.

AND MAY I SAY SOMETHING? YES, YES, MA'AM.

PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

SO JUST EVEN RECENTLY, UH, WITH THIS HOUSE, WE HAD SOME STUFF STOLEN FROM THE, UH, PORCH.

UH, MY WREATH, UH, JUST YESTERDAY I WAS COMING IN THERE AND THERE WAS MY, MY, MY, UH, HOUSE WAS BLOCKED.

AND I HAVE, I HAVE A PICTURE OF THE, UH, VEHICLE THAT WAS THERE.

UM, AND SHE WAS, UH, BUYING COFFEE, UH, FROM NEXT DOOR.

UH, WE'VE HAD IT GRAFFITIED BEFORE.

UM, IT WAS ALSO, UH, WE HAD TO CALL THE POLICE.

THERE WAS A, A PERSON, UH, A HOMELESS, UH, SITTING, UH, LAYING DOWN RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE FRONT DOOR.

UH, AND IT WASN'T BOARDED UP.

UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST REQUESTING, UM, WHAT THE REAL, REAL MAIN REASON IS WHEN WE ARE DRIVING IN OR COMING OUT OF

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THE DRIVEWAY, THAT INTERSECTION IS SO BUSY, AND I'M TALKING RIGHT NOW TO, UM, THE HIGHER THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THAT STREET TO PUT MAYBE BUMPS BECAUSE THEY FLY, THEY DRIVE REALLY, REALLY FAST.

UM, AND THEY HAVE NO MERCY FOR ANYBODY LIVING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE ARE TRYING TO PULL OUT AND PULL IN.

SO WE, AT, AT BEST CASE, IS THE SECURITY OF THE, THE PROPERTY VERSUS, AND ALSO WHEN WE ARE PULLING IN, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT STREET RIGHT THERE, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO OPEN UP THE GATE SO THAT WE CAN ZOOM INTO OUR DRIVEWAY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST, THEY ARE GOING TO ALLOW US.

THE, THE OTHER VEHICLES WILL RESPECT US ENOUGH TO LET US PULL IN OR LET US PULL OUT.

MA'AM, DON'T YOU, UM, JUST MOVING THE VEHICULAR GATE BACK, THE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MAYBE FIVE FEET, FOUR, FIVE FEET BACK, THAT MIGHT HELP YOU, LIKE BE ABLE TO WELL, YEAH.

IT'S A BARRIER.

I MEAN, UH, IF ANYTHING IT'LL, THEY'LL MAYBE, UM, SEE, LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE, BUT YOU'RE WANTING IT ALONG THE, THE FIRST COLUMN MM-HMM .

AND OH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT IT GOES BEHIND THE SECOND COLUMN, THE FIRST COLUMN, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S THAT THE FRONT ONE, NOT THE BACK ONE.

THERE'S A LOT OF DRIVEWAY FROM THE STREET TO THE FIRST COLUMN, BUT THAT WOULD BUY YOU MORE TIME.

SO LIKE, IF YOU HAVE THE GATE BEHIND THAT BACK COLUMN, UH, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW YOU TO PULL INTO THE DRIVEWAY QUICKER AND THEN ALLOW YOU TO OPEN THE GATE VERSUS HAVING TO WAIT IN THE STREET OR HALFWAY IN THE STREET, UH, AND HAVE POSSIBLY A CAR OR A MAD PERSON, WHATEVER, UM, HONKING AT YOU VERSUS THE GATE BEING BEHIND THAT CALL ALONG THE HOUSE.

THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO FULLY PULL IN AND THEN, UH, ALLOW YOUR GATE TO OPEN.

AND THEN YOU CAN PULL IN.

DO YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING? MM-HMM.

NO, SHE'S SAYING THAT SINCE THE FENCE IS FURTHER BACK, SINCE IT'S FURTHER BACK, YOU CAN JUST PULL RIGHT IN VERSUS WAITING.

JUST GET OFF THE STREET IMMEDIATELY.

WELL, I THINK I WAIT LONGER ON THE, ON THE, UH, LEFT SIGNAL THAN I WOULD PARK IT.

AND THEN LETTING THE GATE OPEN WHILE I AM WAITING, I COULD OPEN THE GATE, LET IT CLEAR SO I CAN ZOOM IN.

THAT'S HOW FAST THE CARS ARE GOING.

THAT'S HOW FAST.

AND ALSO, RIGHT NOW, SEE THIS, THE AMOUNT OF SPACE ALLOWS THE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR TO PARK THERE.

ACTUALLY, THERE'S TWO CARS THAT PARK THERE WITHOUT PERMISSION A LOT OF TIMES.

PLUS THE WINDOWS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT BEHIND THE WINDOWS ON THE, ON THE LEFT, RIGHT WHERE YOU WANT THE FENCE THEY'VE APPROACHED, THAT'S WHERE THE, UM, ELECTRICAL BOXES ARE.

THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED.

CUT THE, UM, AT AND T AND THEY'VE GRAFFITIED RIGHT THERE ON THAT SIDE.

THEY TURNED OFF THE LIGHTS ONE TIME.

THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THE CONTROLS ARE RIGHT? THE, ALL THE CONTROLS ARE RIGHT, THE POWER BOX.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE, THE, IF WE PUT THE FENCE OVER HERE WHERE WE'RE REQUESTING, THEY DON'T HAVE A REACH TO THE, UM, SO YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT ALSO THE, EVERYTHING, THE POWER BOX.

AND, AND THE METERS THERE, WHATEVER.

THEY'RE THE BREAKER BOX.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OH, GO AHEAD.

THE HOUSE.

ONE MORE COMMENT.

THE HOUSE TO THE LEFT OF THAT BLACK ONE HA HAS A, A SLIDING FENCE RIGHT ALONG THE SIDEWALK.

IT'S A BACKWARD HOUSE WE CALL IT, BECAUSE THEY TURNED IT ALL THE WAY AROUND TO HAVE THE BACKYARD IN FRONT OF ALAMO.

SO YOU HAVE TWO GO, YOU HAVE TWO GARAGE ENTRANCES THERE.

AND THIS, THIS, THE OPENING GATE IS RIGHT ON THE SIDEWALK.

THAT, OKAY.

I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUES SPEAK NOW.

TYPE, UH, IS, COULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.

UH, JUST, JUST A QUICK COMMENT ON THE, UH, FENCE.

UM, YOU, UH, SOMETIMES, UH, A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE

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UH, SEE, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A, A FOUR FOOT PICKET FENCE, A WOODEN, JUST TO OUTLINE, UM, THE SECURITY.

UH, I, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE.

IT KIND OF, UH, OUTLINES, UH, A BOUNDARY WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEM AND THEY CAN SEE YOU, AND IT TELLS PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING, HEY, THIS BELONGS TO THIS PROPERTY.

UH, AND SO JUST, JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS FAR AS THE FENCING IN THE FRONT YARD GOES.

THAT DRIVEWAY AREA RIGHT THERE, UH, OF A FOUR FOOT FENCE MIGHT NOT BE IDEAL THAT YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT, UH, IT WILL HELP, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, RESPECTING THE BOUNDARY LINES.

IT SH IT SHOWS A, A, AN AREA THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADHERED TO.

THAT FENCE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, UH, IS A ROT IRON FENCE.

THE, THE ONE IN THE FRONT IS A, THE FOUR INCH, EVERY OTHER FOUR, FOUR FOOT, FOUR FOOT.

EVERY OTHER WOODEN FENCE WOULD BE THE, THE LITTLE ONE IN THE FRONT.

THE PICKET FENCE.

YEAH, THE PICKET FENCE IN THE VERY ALONG THE SIDEWALK.

AND THEN THIS ONE WOULD BE A ROT IRON.

OKAY, GO AHEAD CHRIS.

SO I THINK THAT HELPED ANSWER PART OF MY QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE CHART.

AND ON THE, ON THE LEFT SIDE, ON ONE HAND YOU HAVE THE PURPLE XS, WHICH LOOKS LIKE THEY WOULD BE WOODEN PRIVACY, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE INSTEAD THAT'S GONNA BE A FOUR FOOT WROUGHT IRON.

YOU SAID NOT FOUR FOOT, UH, IS IT FOUR FOOT? THE SLIDING GATE? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU ALLOW ON THE SLIDING GATES UP TO FIVE FEET? UM, WHERE IT'S PRESENTLY LOCATED, IT'D BE CONSIDERED THE FRONT YARD.

SO THE, THE MAX HEIGHT WOULD BE FOUR FEET UNLESS APPROVED OTHERWISE BY THE COMMISSION.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE REQUESTING, UH, TO MATCH THE SAME AS THE NEIGHBOR.

UM, NEXT DOOR, NEXT DOOR FEEL SHOW THE, UH, CAN YOU SHOW THAT ONE AGAIN, BRIAN? UM, YEAH.

AND I, I CAN DO THAT.

AND ALSO TOO, UM, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MATCH THE HEIGHT HERE ON THIS FENCE TO KIND OF CONTINUE UP HERE THIS WAY, UM, TO BE HONEST, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING A PERMIT FOR THAT.

UH, THE REASON WHY THIS FENCE IS LIKELY HAD STOPPED HERE IS BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED A REAR FENCE.

BUT IF YOU WERE TO EXTEND IT ANY FURTHER, IT'D BE CONSIDERED A FRONT YARD FENCE.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LIMITS SOLID WOOD PANELED FENCES TO THREE FEET IN HEIGHT FOR THE FRONT.

UM, AGAIN, IF YOU WERE WANTING TO DO A, UH, OPEN WOOD PICKET FENCE, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR THE FRONT YARD, THAT COULD BE APPROPRIATE.

UM, BUT IT WOULD NEED TO BE STEPPED DOWN OR IT WOULD NEED TO TRANSITION DOWN.

UM, IT, IT COULD NOT BE SIX FEET ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE CONCRETE CURB.

I DON'T KNOW.

FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT POINT, I, I THINK, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE, UH, BEEN PART OF THE SITE VISIT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE FENCE THAT WAS INSTALLED ON THE HOUSE TO THE LEFT ENDS AT THE FRONT FACADE OF THAT HOUSE.

IS THAT RIGHT? IT, IT ENDS IN THE FRONT PORCH.

IT ENDS IN THE FRONT PORCH, IT ENDS IN THE FRONT PORCH THERE, THERE'S ENDS IN THE FRONT PORCH.

SIX MM-HMM .

STANDPOINT, IT WOULD START TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE HOME AND THE PORCH TO DO THAT.

UH, QUESTIONS FOR MY COLLEAGUE ON THE RIGHT? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

UM, I, YES, I DO HAVE A COMMENT.

AND THAT IS, WHILE I CAN REALLY EMPATHIZE WITH YOUR SITUATION, I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT PARTICULAR, UH, CORNER ON WIX, UM, AND WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET, EVEN WHEN IT USED TO BE A GAS STATION.

AND, AND SO IT IS AN EXTREMELY BUSY, AND I THINK AN EXTREMELY KIND OF TRANSIENT, UM, AREA OF, UH, THE KING WILLIAM NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH.

UM, AND SO WHILE YOU HAVE MY SYMPATHY, THERE ARE STILL HISTORIC GUIDELINES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESIDENCES, UM, NEED TO FOLLOW.

UM, IN REGARD TO THIS IDEA THAT THE FENCE NEEDS TO END OR START, HOWEVER YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT, UM, AT THE, THE FRONT PLANE OF THE HOUSE, I THINK IS IMPORTANT, UM, FOR VARIETY OF REASONS.

AND I KNOW FOR YOU, SECURITY IS PARAMOUNT, BUT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF BEING IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT WHERE IT'S ABOUT MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES IN THE AREA, AND OF COURSE PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH STUFF ALL THE TIME AND YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, BUT I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT YOUR REQUEST TO MOVE THE FENCE CLOSER TO THE STREET, JUST BECAUSE FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL

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SO BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, I WILL, I WILL, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

LET ME MAKE SURE THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS.

YEAH, NONE.

COFFEE SHOP AND WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHO ALLOWED ALL THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

JUST ONE, ONE COMMENT.

UM, THE HOUSE THAT YOU REFERRED TO FURTHER DOWN, I THINK IT MAY BE AT 1220 SOUTH ALAMO, IT'S HARD TO TELL FROM THE STREET VIEW.

UM, BUT IT APPEARS THEIR GATE IS ACTUALLY NOT A SLIDING GATE, BUT MAYBE A HINGE GATE.

AND I'M WONDERING IF, UH, YOU'VE CONSIDERED A, UM, A, A HINGED GATE THAT COULD BE AUTOMATED, AND THAT WAY YOU COULD STILL HAVE THE AUTOMATED FUNCTION ON YOUR DRIVEWAY TO OPEN IT BEFORE OR AFTER YOU PULL IN OR OUT, UM, AND NOT HAVE TO PUT IT AT THE VERY FRONT BECAUSE OF THE SLIDING FEATURE.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS JUST THAT THE, THE ISSUE IS THE NEXT DOOR, AIRBNB, THEY, THEY KEEP, WE GET THERE ALMOST ON EVERY OTHER DAY.

THEY'RE PARKED THERE, EITHER ONE OR TWO CARS, AND WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL WE FIND THEM.

WE HAVE TO RING THE DOORBELL TO FIND THEM TO HAVE A MOVE WHILE WE'RE DRIVING AROUND.

AND ON FIRST FRIDAY, YOU CAN GUARANTEE THEY'RE PARKED THERE OR THEY EVEN HAVE LAWN CHAIRS RIGHT THERE BY THE, BY THE METERS.

WE'RE, WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT ERA WHERE WE HAVE TO LOCK OUR DOORS.

WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR OUR SECURITY FOR OUR, THE LOVE OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR, IN OUR, OUR FAMILY.

AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE IT USED TO BE WHERE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A GATE THIS PAST, UH, OR NOT THIS PAST, BUT ONE KING WILLIAM FRIDAY, THEY, THERE WAS A CAR PARKED IN THERE WITH LAWN CHAIRS IN FRONT OF THE CAR, AND THE KIDS TRYING TO CLIMB THE PORCH.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE AFRAID, WE WERE AFRAID TO APPROACH THOSE PEOPLE ABOUT THAT.

'CAUSE THEY, THEY DIDN'T LOOK VERY FRIENDLY.

UH, WE TOLD 'EM TO PLEASE MOVE, AND THEY DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE CHANGED, IT'S THAT THE WORLD HAS CHANGED AND WHAT IT WAS BACK THEN IS NOT TODAY.

SO EVEN IF WE DO CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THE KING WILLIAMS, IT IS UP TO US TO CONTINUE, ALL OF US, TO CONTINUE TO TRY AND MAKE THIS A BETTER WORLD.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A FORTRESS.

I, I THINK, UM, BACK TO YOUR, UH, YOUR FENCE ON THE LEFT SIDE, UM, I WOULD MENTION STAFF, UH, AND THE VICE CHAIR CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THERE WOULD STILL BE, UM, WILLINGNESS TO APPROVE A FENCE UP TO THE, THE SIDEWALK THERE, AS LONG AS IT, UH, WHETHER IT'S WROUGHT IRON OR SOME OTHER APPROPRIATE MATERIAL.

AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE, THE FOUR FOOT HEIGHT, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SPECIAL PERMIT.

AND THAT SHOULD AT LEAST GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE SECURITY ON THAT SIDE.

PLUS KEEP THE YES, THE, THE PEOPLE ON THE LEFT SIDE, EVEN IF IT'S LOWER AND WROUGHT IRON, AND YOU CAN SEE THROUGH IT.

BUT IT WOULD ALLOW, UH, SECURITY SO THAT PEOPLE WON'T, WON'T GO IN THERE AT ALL.

IF I'M RIGHT, I BELIEVE THE MOTION UNDER DISCUSSION WOULD, WOULD PERMIT.

THAT IS, AM I, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT, THAT IS MY READING OF IT, IS THAT THE APPROVAL IS TO INSTALL FOUR FOOT TALL, TRANSPARENT, UH, AT THE FRONT YARD, WHICH WERE, IS ANYTHING IN FRONT OF THE FRONT FACADE.

AND SO HE, THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IS THAT THAT'S, THAT YOU COULDN'T MATCH THAT SIX FOOT HEIGHT ON THE HOUSE, ON THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE FENCE BETWEEN YOU AND THE AIRBNB.

BUT YOU COULD STILL PUT IN A FENCE THAT DEMARCATES THE PROPERTY LINE AND YOU COULD STILL DO, I, I DO UNDERSTAND THE POWER BOX THING.

I CAN SEE WHERE YOUR POWER BOX IS.

I THINK EVEN IF THE FENCE GOES UP TO THE FRONT OF THE PORCH, IF YOU'RE SAYING PEOPLE ARE, ARE GOING UP ON YOUR PORCH AND TAKING YOUR WREATH, THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THAT SAME ACCESS, WHETHER YOUR FENCE IS IN FRONT OR BEHIND THAT.

UM, AND THEN YOU WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN THE FRONT.

I, I THINK YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, WHICH PRIMARILY SEEM LIKE YOU NEED PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY AND THAT IT'S IN USE.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE FOR A WHILE IT JUST WASN'T.

AND SO I ALSO AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A COMPLICATED AREA TO LIVE IN, I'M SURE.

UM, BUT I THINK THE DEMARCATION IS GONNA, IS GONNA GET YOU WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO AS MUCH AS CAN BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE GUIDELINES.

I THINK THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA GIVE YOU WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

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THE HOUSE WAS THERE BEFORE MEDIA AND THE HOUSE WAS THERE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE HAD A

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BUT WE ARE LIVING THERE.

THAT HOUSE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE FORTIES.

HAVE YOU, HOW LONG HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN, HOW LONG HAVE YOU GUYS OWNED IT OR BEEN LIVING THERE? LIVING? IT WAS MY BROTHER'S, UH, IN THE 1998 HE BOUGHT.

AND SO WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, THE SERVICE STATION, BUT IT WASN'T AS HECTIC AS IT IS NOW.

THINGS ARE GOT GETTING REALLY, REALLY BAD.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY A REAL BAD NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND SO, UM, I BOUGHT IT FOR MY BROTHER WHEN HE DIED, UM, WHICH WAS, UH, TWO, THREE MONTHS AGO.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOW GETTING THE PERMITS, THE PROPER PERMITS, AND DOING THE PROPER THING.

UH, GREAT.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

UH, WE'LL WRAP UP AND MOVE TO, UH, A MOTION, PLEASE.

I GAVE A MOTION.

WOULD YOU PLEASE RESTATE IT? WE WERE STILL IN, UH, UH, COMMENTS.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

IS THERE A SECOND? UH, SECOND IT.

PLEASE WORK WITH THE, OUR OHP REPRESENTATIVES ON NEXT STEPS WITH NEXT STEPS.

KAITLIN WILL EMAIL YOU ON MONDAY WITH NEXT STEPS.

UM, ARE WE GOING BACK TO THE, UH, YES WE ARE.

COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GONNA REVISIT, UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

UM, JUST SO THAT THAT'S, UH, IN EVERYONE'S MINDS, I'M GONNA REREAD IT INTO THE RECORD.

UM, I'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH VIA EMAIL WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, AND THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON SAID THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE NEEDED TO BE HERE.

UM, I'VE GIVEN HIM THE VIRTUAL OPTION, UH, BUT I THINK HE'S PROBABLY BUSY WITH, WITH SOMETHING ELSE.

UH, HE DID ASK, THOUGH FOR THE, THE BOARD TO GET FEEDBACK AND WEIGH IN ON THIS REQUEST.

UH, SO THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER, UM, NUMBER FIVE HDRC, CASE NUMBER 20 26 1 0 4 15 18 WEST ROSEWOOD.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO PERFORM LANDSCAPING WORK WITHIN THE FRONT AND SIDE YARD AT 1518 WEST ROSEWOOD.

WITHIN THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED THE FOLLOWING SCOPES OF WORK.

ONE, THE INSTALLATION OF PLANNING BEDS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE FRONT YARD TO FEATURE BRICK EDGING IN VARIOUS GROUND COVER AND SHRUBS.

TWO, THE INSTALLATION OF A BRICK PAVED PATIO AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE FRONT YARD IN FRONT OF THE FRONT FACADE.

AND THREE, TO REPLACE THE EXISTING CONCRETE PORCH STEPS, UH, WITH BRICK STEPS AND REPLACE THE EXISTING FRONT WALKWAY WITH THE BRICK FRONT WALKWAY.

UH, WE NEED TO STOP.

WE, WE'VE LOST QUORUM MOMENTARILY.

OH, GEEZ.

ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA TAKE A, A MOMENT UNTIL WE RE YEAH.

AND ACTUALLY THEN I'M GONNA LOSE AGAIN.

OH GOSH.

UM, ALRIGHT, WELL, I'LL JUST ANNOUNCE, UM, FOR THE RECORD, UH, THAT, UM, WE HAVE CURRENTLY LOST QUORUM, BUT WE'LL TAKE A BREAK FOR FIVE MINUTES.

AND RESUME AT 10 40.

THE CONCRETE PORCH HERE, UH, AND THE REMOVAL OR COVERING REMOVAL OF THE BRICK, OR THE, EXCUSE ME, OF THE CONCRETE WALKWAY AND ITS REPLACEMENT WITH BRICK.

UM, MR. CHAIR, YOU, YOU COULD MAKE THE DECISION IF YOU WANNA START NOW OR IF YOU WANNA WAIT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AGAIN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, SO, UM, I REREAD THE REQUEST INTO THE RECORD.

UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ITEMS ONE AND TWO BASED ON FINDINGS A THROUGH C WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.

ONE, THAT EDGING AND LANDSCAPING ELEMENTS SHOULD NOT IMPEDE UPON THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AT ANY TIME.

TWO, THAT THE PATIO BE INSTALLED IN A MANNER THAT DOES NOT FACILITATE WATER DRAINAGE TOWARD THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES FOUNDATION.

UH, FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE, STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM THREE, CONCRETE STEPS AND WALKWAY REPLACEMENT BASED ON FINDINGS.

D AND E STAFF RECOMMENDS BOTH ORIGINAL CONCRETE ELEMENTS BE MAINTAINED.

SHOULD THEY REQUIRE REPAIR, UH, REPAIRS SHOULD BE DONE CONSISTENTLY WITH THE GUIDELINES.

UH, SO COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS NOTED.

UM, THE APPLICANT'S NOT HERE, NOT ABLE TO ATTEND, UH, BUT DID ASK FOR, UH, THE, THE COMMISSION TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.

UM, SO, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THIS IS GENERALLY CURRENTLY WHAT EXISTS ON SITE.

UM, THERE IS, UH, HERE'S A PHOTO.

UH, AND THEN I'LL GO TO THEIR PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND I'LL JUST EXPLAIN, UH, SO EVERYTHING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF GENERALLY WHAT'S SHOWN HERE IN THIS BLUE BOX STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF, UH, THE ONLY THINGS THAT STAFF ARE NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF IS THE REMOVAL OR THE COVERING OF

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UH, THE GUIDELINES NOTE THAT HISTORIC PORCH ELEMENTS SHOULDN'T BE REMOVED OR COVERED.

UH, LIKEWISE, THE GUIDELINES FOR SITE ELEMENTS NOTE THAT HISTORIC PAVING WALKWAYS SHOULD BE PRESERVED IN PLACE.

UM, IF EITHER THOSE ELEMENTS ARE BEYOND REPAIR, UH, THEN THEY CAN BE REPAIRED IN KIND OR REPLACED IN KIND.

UH, SO, UM, COMMISSIONERS, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR STAFF, I CAN TAKE THOSE NOW OR Y'ALL CAN DISCUSS SINCE THERE'S NOBODY TO QUESTION.

UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF MEMBERS? AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, ARE THERE OTHER PICTURES I SEEM TO JUST HAVE A GRAY SCREEN FOR, OR IS IT JUST THESE TWO? NO, IT DIDN'T COME UP IN THERE.

UM, THERE SHOULD BE MULTIPLE PHOTOS.

IF THERE'S NOT, IF YOU, IF, IF YOU CAN LOOK ON THE, UM, IT, IT MAY JUST BE A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE AT, AT YOUR STATION.

UM, IF YOU LOOK TO THE, THE LARGE SCREEN, UM, YOU'LL SEE, UH, HERE'S, UH, PHOTOS OF THE FRONT YARD, THE CURRENT CONDITION.

UH, SO HERE'S THE ORIGINAL SIDEWALK.

UM, THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD OF THESE HOUSES.

THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, UH, THE CONCRETE PORCH IS, IS LIKELY ORIGINAL AS IT IS ON MOST OF THE HOUSES HERE.

UM, IT'S NOT THE CASE WHERE IN SOME LOCATIONS YOU HAVE WOOD THAT'S, THAT WAS THEN REPLACED BY CONCRETE.

UH, SO HERE'S ANOTHER PHOTO FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE FRONT YARD, A THIRD PHOTO.

AND THIS IS A PHOTO FROM ACROSS THE STREET THAT GIVES YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF THE ENTIRE CONTEXT OF THE FRONT YARD.

UH, AND THEN I'LL LAND BACK HERE ON THE, THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

SO, UM, ALL OF THE BRICK PAVING THAT YOU SEE THAT'S NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE FRONT WALKWAY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF STAFF, IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE LANDSCAPING BORDERS.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED PLANTINGS, UH, EVERYTHING BUT THE BRICK WALKWAY AND THE COVERING AND REPLACEMENT OF THE, THE FRONT PORCH WITH BRICK.

IS THAT A QUESTION? COMMENTS? GREAT.

LET'S MOVE TO, UH, MOTION PLEASE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

I SECOND IT.

WE ARE, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.