* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:01:30] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING OF DECEMBER THE FIFTH, 2019. COUNCIL MEMBER TNO HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER . HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER CAVEO BERDA. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER LIAS. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESIDENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE. AND MAYOR NURENBERG HERE. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR CITY COUNCIL, A SESSION AGENDA. THE TIME IS 9:16 AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WE GET STARTED TODAY. THE [1. Invocation] FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS AN INVOCATION GUEST OF COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, THIS MORNING WITH US, WE HAVE PASTOR SEAN METCALF, WHO CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE EXPERIENCE PASTOR FOR COMMUNITY BIBLE CHURCH. AS A YOUNG MAN, HE VOLUNTEERED AND INTERNED IN MANY YOUTH MINISTRIES FROM 1993 TO 1998 ACROSS TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA. AND PASTOR SEAN, LET ME SAY, I SHARED THAT EXPERIENCE AS A YOUTH MINISTER AT MY CHURCH FOR MANY YEARS, A VERY REWARDING EXPERIENCE. IN 1998, HE BEGAN HIS FULL-TIME CHURCH MINISTRY AT FELLOWSHIP CHURCH IN GRAPEVINE, TEXAS. SEAN JOINED COMMUNITY BIBLE CHURCH IN 2001. SEAN IS A GRADUATE OF TEXAS A AND M UNIVERSITY, UH, IN 1997 AND EARNED HIS MASTER'S IN PASTORAL COUNSELING FROM LIBERTY UNIVERSITY. HE'S BEEN MARRIED TO HIS WIFE, JULIE FOR 21 YEARS AND HAS TWO CHILDREN, AND HIS FAVORITE THING IN THE WORLD IS HANGING OUT WITH HIS FAMILY AND MAKING GREAT MEMORIES. COMMUNITY BIBLE CHURCH HOSTS A MONTHLY FIRST RESPONDERS LUNCH, WHICH I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND SEVERAL TIMES, AND I CAN ATTEST THAT THEY PROVIDE THE BEST FREE LUNCH IN TOWN. THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN VERY GRACIOUS IN HOSTING OUR CITY IN OUR DARKEST HOURS WHEN WE'VE LOST A FIRST RESPONDER IN THE LINE OF DUTY. THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING EMMETT PARK, AN OPEN SPACE, A D A COMPLIANT COMMUNITY PARK ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RESIDENTS. I'M EXTREMELY GRATEFUL TO HAVE SUCH A PROACTIVE AND GENEROUS GROUP OF PEOPLE IN DISTRICT NINE WORKING EVERY DAY TO HELP OTHERS. I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE OF THE BEST FREE LUNCHES IN TOWN, UH, WITH GREAT PEOPLE. SO PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME PASTOR SEAN METCALF. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. IT'S AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO PRAY OVER THIS CITY COUNCIL TODAY. SO WOULD YOU BOW YOUR HEADS AS WE PRAY? HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF LIVING IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. LORD, TWO OF OUR GREATEST DAYS EVER IN OUR LIFE ARE FIRST THE DAY THAT WE ARE BORN, AND SECOND THE DAY THAT WE DISCOVER WHY WE WERE BORN. SO, GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNCIL WHO HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS TO LEAD OUR GREAT CITY. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM OF ALL OF OUR UNITED STATES MILITARY, ESPECIALLY THE UNITED STATES MARINES THAT WE WILL CELEBRATE HERE TODAY. WE ALSO THANK YOU FOR EVERY MAN AND WOMAN THAT PUTS ON THE UNIFORM OF A FIRST RESPONDER, NOT ONLY TO PROTECT [00:05:01] OUR GREAT CITY, BUT ALSO RUSH TO ITS CITIZENS' NEEDS WHEN THEIR LIVES ARE THREATENED. SO, GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THEM AND FOR THEIR FAMILIES THAT STAND IN THE GAP FOR ALL OF US WHEN WE CANNOT STAND THERE OURSELVES. LORD, WOULD YOU BE WITH THIS COUNCIL TODAY? LORD, WOULD YOU GIVE THEM SUPERNATURAL WISDOM BEYOND THEIR KNOWLEDGE, BEYOND THEIR EXPERIENCE, BEYOND THEIR LEARNING TO ASSESS AND ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TODAY? FOR EVERY PERSON THAT WOULD STAND TO THIS PODIUM AND SPEAK A CONCERN OR A QUESTION OR AN ISSUE THAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY, LORD, WOULD THEY BE HEARD TODAY AND WOULD THEIR VOICE BE KNOWN? AND WOULD THEIR NEED BE KNOWN? AND WOULD THIS COUNCIL, AS IT CONTINUES TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF THE DAY, WOULD YOU GO BEYOND THEM? GOD, GO BEFORE THEM WITH THE POWER OF YOUR HOLY SPIRIT. AND LORD, GIVE THEM WISDOM AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL SAN ANTONIANS. LORD, TODAY WE ASK FOR THIS COUNCIL, WOULD YOU BLESS THEM AND KEEP THEM? WOULD YOU MAKE YOUR FACE TO SHINE BEFORE THEM? WOULD YOUR GRACE ABOUND IN THEM AND IN ALL THINGS GOD, WOULD YOU GIVE THEM PEACE? IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. [2. Pledge of Allegiance] THANK YOU PASTOR METCALF. ALRIGHT, THE FIRST [3. Approval of Minutes for the City Council Regular Meetings of October 2 - 3, 2019 and the Regular Meeting of October 16, 2019.] ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY IS THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF OCTOBER 2ND AND THIRD AND THE 16TH. SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OCTOBER TWO, THREE, AND 16. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. [Additional Item #1] UH, WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS OF PRIVILEGE BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON OUR BUSINESS AGENDA TODAY. AND I'D FIRST LIKE TO START BY SAYING, TODAY THE CITY COUNCIL AND I ARE PROUD TO CELEBRATE THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS'S 244TH BIRTHDAY AND TO RECOGNIZE THEIR SERVICE TO OUR NATION. SO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME THE COMMANDING OFFICER RECRUITING STATION, SAN ANTONIO, MAJOR MARIA HARLEY, HER SERGEANT MAJOR, SERGEANT MAJOR JAMES BAUM, AND RECRUITING INSTRUCTOR, MASTER GUNNERY, SERGEANT LV BATISTA, AND ALL ACTIVE DUTY MARINES, MARINE VETERANS, AND ALL VETERANS. TODAY. TODAY'S CELEBRATION, THE MARINE CORPS IS OLDER THAN THE NATION AND WAS ESTABLISHED ON 10 NOVEMBER, 1775, AND THE FIRST RECRUITING STATION WAS AT T TAVERN IN PHILADELPHIA. THEIR MISSION WAS TO CONDUCT SHIP TO SHIP FIGHTING, PROVIDE SHIPBOARD SECURITY, AND ASSIST LANDING FORCES. SINCE THEIR BEGINNINGS IN 1775, AMERICAN MARINES HAVE DISTINGUISHED THEMSELVES AROUND THE WORLD AND WAR AND IN PEACE AND IN EVERY CLIMB AND PLACE, AND HAVE RIGHTFULLY EARNED THE REPUTATION AS THE BEST FIGHTING FORCE THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN. THE MARINES CELEBRATED HISTORY INCLUDES ACTIONS AGAINST THE NATION'S FOES DURING THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, THE CIVIL WAR, AND NUMEROUS OTHER CONFLICTS IN BETWEEN. BATTLE TESTED MARINES SERVED A CENTRAL ROLE IN WORLD WAR I, EARNING THE RESPECT OF ALLIES AND FOES ALIKE IN PLACES LIKE BELU WOOD AND CHATEAU THEORY. IN WORLD WAR II, MARINES DISTINGUISHED THEMSELVES DURING THE ISLAND HOPPING CAMPAIGN IN THE PACIFIC, IN PLACES LIKE GUADALCANAL, OKINAWA AND IWO JIMA, WHERE THE FAMOUS FLAG RAISING AT, UH, MOUNT SURIBACHI TOOK PLACE. MARINES CONTINUED THEIR STORIED LEGACY AFTER WORLD WAR II IN THE AIR, LAND, AND SEA. DURING THE CONFLICTS IN KOREA, VIETNAM, THE MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA, MARINES RECORD OF SUCCESS CONTINUED IN PLACES LIKE THE CHOSEN RESERVOIR, SSA HU AND FALLUJAH, RAMADI AND MJA. IN RECENT YEARS, MARINES HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF OUR NATION'S HUMANITARIAN AND DISASTER RESPONSE EFFORTS AT HOME AND ABROAD FROM JAPAN AND AND HAITI TO FLORIDA, LOUISIANA, TEXAS, AND PUERTO RICO. THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR CORPS CONTINUE TO STEP FORWARD WHEN OUR NATION CALLS TODAY MARINES CONTINUE TO BE THE NATION'S 9 1 1 FORCE THEY SERVE AROUND THE WORLD, DEPLOYED TO THE TIP OF THE SPEAR PERFORMING COMBAT MISSIONS, PROTECTING AMERICAN INTEREST AS EMBASSY GUARDS AND OVER 180 EMBASSIES AND CONSULATES WORLDWIDE, AND SERVING ABOARD NAVY SHIPS, PROTECTING AMERICAN POWER HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. THE MARINE CORPS HAS A SMALL BUT POWERFUL FOOTPRINT IN ADDITION TO BEING THE HOME OF THE FOURTH RECONNAISSANCE TO BATTALION MARINE SERVE AND INTELLIGENCE ROLES AT N S A TEXAS K CANINE INSTRUCTORS AND STUDENTS AT JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO AND BOAST ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL RECRUITING STATIONS IN THE NATION RIGHT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. WHILE THEIR UNIFORM PRESENCE IS SMALL, THE REGION IS HOMED A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF MARINE VETERANS AND FAMILY MEMBERS TO INCLUDE MANY SERVING IN OUR OWN CITY DEPARTMENTS. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 300 MARINE VETERANS WHO NOW SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY AS CITY OF SAN ANTONIO EMPLOYEES. AND WHILE THE MARINES HAVE A TOUGH EXTERIOR, THEY ARE KNOWN FOR A PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES TOYS FOR CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS CAN'T AFFORD [00:10:01] TO BUY THEM FOR CHRISTMAS, FOUNDED IN 1947, THE TOYS FOR TOTS PROGRAM IS DISTRIBUTED MILLIONS OF TOYS TO DESERVING CHILDREN AROUND THE NATION TO INCLUDE MANY HERE IN OUR CITY. SO NOT ONLY IS IT A PRIVILEGE TO HOST OUR MILITARY, IT IS ALSO A UNIQUE PRIVILEGE TO CELEBRATE THE 244TH BIRTHDAY OF OUR UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS HERE IN MILITARY CITY U SS A SO TO MARINES EVERYWHERE. HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND SEMPER FI. GOOD MORNING MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE SAN ANTONIO CITY OF COUNCIL, DISTINGUISHED GUESTS. UH, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY TO CELEBRATE THE 244TH BIRTHDAY OF THE MARINE CORPS. UM, AS MENTIONED, MY NAME IS MAJOR MARIA HARLEY, AND I'M THE RECRUITING STATION IN SAN ANTONIO, COMMANDING OFFICER. I'M ALSO A PROUD GRADUATE OF U T S A. THE MAYOR COVERED TWO IMPORTANT TOPICS IN HIS COMMENTS TODAY. FIRST, HE COVERED A BRILLIANT SYNOPSIS OF THE MARINE CORPS HISTORY, A HISTORY THAT IS THE STORIED HISTORY OF WHICH WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY TO CELEBRATE THE CAKE CUTTING CEREMONY. SECONDLY, HE HIGHLIGHTED THAT THE MARINE CORPS'S MISSION IS NOT SIMPLY TO FIND THE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE ON THE CHALLENGE OF BECOMING A UNITED STATES MARINE, BUT ALSO TO RETURN PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS BACK TO SOCIETY. I THINK WE ARE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN BOTH THOSE VENTURES JUST SIMPLY BY THE NUMBER OF MARINE OR FORMER MARINES THAT ARE EMPLOYED BY THE CITY. THE CAPE COUNTY CEREMONY THAT YOU WERE ABOUT TO SEE IS STEEPED IN THE MARINE CORPS HISTORY. WE SYMBOLICALLY PASSED THE KNOWLEDGE FROM THE OLDEST MARINE TO THE YOUNGEST MARINE AS WE, AS WE HAVE DONE FOR AGES. IT IS ALSO FITTING THAT WE ARE IN THIS CHAMBERS TODAY CELEBRATING WITH YOU BECAUSE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS LONG BEEN THE BEARER OF SUPPORT FOR THE MILITARY. IN FACT, I COULDN'T SUCCESSFULLY DO MY JOB WITHOUT SUPPORT OF ALL OF YOU AND THE SUPPORT OF THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. AND FOR THAT THE MARINE CORPS IS FOREVER IN YOUR DEBT. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT, AND WE WISH YOU ALL I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, UH, IN THE UPCOMING HOLIDAY SEASON. SEMPER FIDELIS. READY STEP READY. IT IS CUSTOMARY AT MARINE CORPS BIRTHDAY CELEBRATIONS WORLDWIDE TO A TRADITIONAL CADENCE CELEBRATION OF BIRTH OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS CORE. THE FIRST PIECE OF CAKE IS GIVEN TO OUR GUEST OF HONOR, MAYOR RON NURENBERG. THE SECOND PIECE OF CAKE IS GIVEN TO OUR OTIS MARINE PRESENT MAJOR GENERAL JUAN AYALA, WHO WAS BORN ON AUGUST 26TH, 1956, AND LISTENED TO THE MARINE CORPS IN JULY OF 1976. THE THIRD PIECE OF CAKE IS GIVEN TO OUR YOUNGEST MARINE LANCE CORPORAL CHRISTIAN CARRASCO, BORN ON MARCH 11TH, 1997, AND HE ENLISTED IN MAY OF 2017. THE PASSING OF THE PIECE OF CAKE FROM THE OLDEST TO YOUNGEST MARINE IS THE PASSING OF EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE PASSES THE EXPERIENCE OF KNOWLEDGE AND CARE FOR OUR YOUNG MARINES BEFORE WE LOOK TO OUR OWN NEEDS. AND SO IT MUST BE, [00:15:02] CAN ALL MARINES PRESENT IN UNIFORM AND OUT OF UNIFORM? PLEASE COME UP TO TAKE A PHOTO WITH THE MARINES QUARTER 1, 2, 3, 1, 1, 2, 3 FOR LOVE UNITED. ALL RIGHT, WELL, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, UH, TO OUR VETERANS AND ACTIVE DUTY MARINES WHO ARE HERE AND WATCHING. UH, WE DO HAVE COMMENT AND CELEBRATION FROM OUR COUNCIL. WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. THANK YOU, SIR. AND YES, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE MARINES. Y'ALL BRING HONOR AND DISTINCTION TO THIS COMMUNITY HERE, AND IT IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE UNIFORMS RIGHT HERE IN THIS BUILDING, UH, BECAUSE THERE IS A, A RELATIONSHIP SUCH AS STRONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE MILITARY AND THE CITY. AND YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MARINES HERE IN TOWN, BUT LET ME TELL YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF MARINES HERE IN TOWN. UH, I HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO GO TO THE, UH, BALL THE OTHER, LET'S SEE, A WEEK OR SO AGO. AND, UM, MAN, THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER, THAT WHAT THAT LARGEST ROOM IN THERE WAS FULL OF MARINES. I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MANY MARINES IN ONE LOCATION, BUT THAT WAS FANTASTIC AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WERE COMING FROM ALL AROUND TO ATTEND THAT BALL AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BE A PART OF THAT BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION AND THE POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE THAT Y'ALL BRING. IT, IT, IT REALLY, IT TOUCHES THE HEART TO SEE THE CAMARADERIE [00:20:01] AND THE ESPRIT DECOR THAT YOU BRING, NOT ONLY TO YOURSELVES, BUT TO THE SERVICE AND TO THE CITY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN ON CELEBRATING THE 244TH BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. AND AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL FOR BRINGING YOUR, UM, BEST ALWAYS, UH, TO THESE CHAMBERS. THIS IS A HOME FOR YOU AS WELL. UH, GENERAL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COORDINATING ALL EFFORTS WITH ALL OF OUR BRANCHES AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY EM FI TO ALL OF OUR MARINES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS SIR. [Additional Item #2] ALRIGHT, UH, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, POINTS OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE FROM COUNCIL. WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ANDREW SULLIVAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THIS MORNING I AM HONORED TO HAVE WITH US ONE OF HISTORY'S MUSIC MAKING GENIUSES AMONGST US. AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MR. THOMAS MCCLARY AND HIS WIFE PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. UM, HE IS AN ICON WITHIN HIS OWN RIGHT. HE IS THE FOUNDER OF THE LEGENDARY BAND, THE COMMODORES, AND AN UNMATCHED TRAILBLAZER IN CREATING ONE OF THE SIGNATURE SOUNDS THAT DEFINE GOLDEN AGE AND MODERN MUSIC. UM, HE BROUGHT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TOGETHER IN CLASSIC HITS LIKE BRICK HOUSE, THREE TIMES, A LADY AND ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST RENOWNED GUITAR SOLOS. IN THE SONG EARLY OR EASY, EXCUSE ME, UH, MR. MCCLARY WAS DESTINED TO CHANGE AND MAKE HISTORY EVEN FROM HIS BIRTH WHEN HE WAS IN FLORIDA AS ONE OF THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDENTS TO INTEGRATE THE FLORIDA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. PRIOR TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF BROWN VERSUS BOARD OF EDUCATION, HE CONTINUED TO STAND IN JUSTICE WHILE ATTENDING THE HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGE TUSKEGEE UNIVERSITY, WHERE HE MET OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMODORE WHO TURNED INTO FUTURE GRAMMY NOMINATED SONGS AND STARTED OFF WRITING AND COMPOSING FROM HIS HEART TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD THROUGH REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES. AS A STUDENT AT TUSKEGEE, HE MET LIONEL RICHIE AND THEY REGISTERED ONLINE AND BECAME FRIENDS. IT BECAME, UM, IN 1968, THEY BECAME THE BAND KNOWN AS THE MYSTICS, AND THEN IN 1972, THEY BECAME THE COMMODORE AND SIGNED WERE BARRY GORDY AND MOTOWN RECORDS. MR. MCCLARY SPENT 15 YEARS AS THE LEAGUE GUITARIST FOR THE COMMODORE, WHILE ALL PARTICIPATING IN SONGWRITING PRODUCING AND LEAD VOCALS. HE IS MARRIED TO THE BEAUTIFUL BERYL THOMPSON, MC MCCLARY, WHO IS ONE OF FLORIDA'S PRACTICING LAWYERS, AND IN HER OWN RIGHT STANDS JUST AS BEAUTIFUL IN HER PRACTICE THAT SHE DOES IN FRONT OF US. TODAY, I AM HONORED AND THANKFUL TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL AND OUR MAYOR, MAYOR RON NUREMBERG. WE ARE SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE, AND I KNOW YOU ARE DOING SOME WONDERFUL THINGS RIGHT NOW HERE IN THE CITY AND WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE HONORABLE MAYOR, TO THE COUNCILWOMAN, MS. ANDREW SULLIVAN, TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE, PERSONS THAT ARE PRESENT. THANK YOU FOR INVITING US. IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO COME TO SAN ANTONIO WITH OUR GUESTS, AND IT WAS SUCH AN HONOR TO BE HERE AS YOU HONORED THE MARINES TODAY. YES. AND THE HISTORY THAT BELONGS TO THE ALIMO. MY HUSBAND IS HERE WITH HIS GREAT HISTORY, THE AMERICAN HISTORY, THE AMERICAN SONG, AND HE WILL HAVE A FEW WORDS. BUT AGAIN, WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACIOUSNESS IN ALLOWING US TO BE IN YOUR CITY AND TO ENJOY IT. AS MY WIFE SAID TO THE HONORABLE MAYOR AND, AND THE COUNCIL HERE, WE ARE HONORED. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE IN THIS GREAT CITY. UM, AS YOU KNOW, 40, 50 YEARS AGO, THESE SONGS WERE WRITTEN AND THANKS TO YOU AND THE SUPPORT. AND, UH, AS I LOOK AROUND, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW BRICK HOUSES HERE, , AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT EASY, LIKE SUNDAY MORNING CALL ON US, WE WILL BE THERE TO, UH, SUPPORT YOU IN EVERY WAY THAT WE CAN. THREE TIMES THE LATEST TOO. . GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN. MR. AND MRS. CLIP MCCLARY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, JOINING US HERE AT THE CHAMBERS. I WAS A [00:25:01] LITTLE DISAPPOINTED, UM, WHEN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CALLED ME LAST NIGHT TO, TO TELL ME THAT YOU WERE COMING. UH, WE HAVE A TRADITION HERE WHERE WE HAVE, UH, OUR COUNCIL SESSIONS BEGIN WITH MUSIC. AND SO I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED YOU DIDN'T BRING AN INSTRUMENT WITH YOU . SO, UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A HOME TO ALL THE GREAT MUSICIANS OF THE WORLD. WE, WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR CULTURE AND HERITAGE AND MUSIC. THERE'S NO EXCEPTION TO THAT. I WOULD INVITE YOU BACK, BUT THIS TIME WE EXPECT YOUR GUITAR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US. ALRIGHT, COUNCIL [Additional Item #3] MEMBER SANDOVAL. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN KEEPING IN THE THEME OF MUSIC. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS WEEK IS, UH, THE 25TH ANNUAL MARIACHI VARGAS EXTRAVAGANZA BEING HELD HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. IT'S AN ANNUAL, UH, IT'S AN ANNUAL MUSIC FESTIVAL CELEBRATING THE HISTORY AND CULTURAL IMPACT OF MARIACHI MUSIC. I THINK YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PHOTOS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON, UH, SOME OF THOSE GREAT PICTURES OF THE KIDS THERE. UH, THE FESTIVAL INCLUDES CONCERTS AND WORKSHOPS BY WORLD RENOWNED MUSICIANS AND COMPETITIONS, UH, WITH PARTICIPANTS FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. UH, THERE'S A VOCAL COMPETITION, A GROUP COMPETITION, AND A SONGWRITING COMPETITION. AND IF YOU'VE EVER HAD A CHANCE TO GO AND LISTEN ON FRIDAY NIGHT, YOU COULD SEE HIGH SCHOOL MARIACHIS FROM AROUND THE NATION, UH, PLAYING, UH, BASICALLY DOING A COMPETING WITH ONE ANOTHER. AND IT'S JUST AMAZING TO TO HEAR. UM, THE EVENT HAS BEEN, UH, SPONSORED BY A NUMBER OF FOLKS, BUT THE PRESENTING SPONSOR HAS FOR MANY YEARS BEEN, UH, GONZABA. SO, UH, ANNA SOTO FROM, UH, GONZABA, UH, MEDICAL GROUP WILL BE HERE TO RECEIVE, UH, A PROCLAMATION, UH, FROM THE MAYOR. WE WON'T READ IT, BUT WE'LL JUST COME DOWN AND TAKE A PHOTO. OH, JUST GO AHEAD AND STAY THERE. WE'LL TAKE A PHOTO WITH YOU. SO, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. YES. I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, ON BEHALF OF, UH, ON BEHALF OF GONSALO MEDICAL GROUP AND MARIACHI VARGAS, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR HAVING US HERE, UM, SPONSOR OF THIS GREAT EVENT AND VO CULTURE AND MARIACHI. SO THANK YOU. DON'T, DON'T GO TOO FAR. DON'T GO TOO FAR. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE, UM, MARIACHI, UH, EXTRAVAGANZA AND SAY THAT I AM REALLY PROUD TO HAVE, UH, THE MARIACHI TRADITION BE SO ALIVE IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, MY SON SANG FOR YEARS AS A MARIACHI IN HIGH SCHOOL AND CONTINUES. AND SO I'M A BIG FAN AND I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE FOREFRONT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, AND WE DO INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO ENJOY, UH, ALL THE CONCERTS THAT ARE HAPPENING DURING THE EXTRAVAGANZA EVERY YEAR. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER FOR HIGHLIGHTING THIS. [Consent Agenda] ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE NOW TO OUR, UH, BUSINESS AGENDA TODAY. UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS LISTED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS, SO I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES NOW IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS, UH, FROM CONSENT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PULL. OKAY. ANY ITEMS TO HIGHLIGHT THAT REMAIN ON CONSENT, JUST MAKE SURE YOU TAP INTO THE QUEUE. UM, ANY ITEMS TO PULL OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? OKAY. UH, 24 WILL BE PULLED FOR RECUSAL. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER ITEMS SAVED FOR 24, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, PUNCH. SORRY, SORRY. I HAVE ITEM OF 20 AND RECUSE FOR 23. I THOUGHT WE WERE PUNCHING OH, FOR, FOR HIGHLIGHTING. OKAY. SO YOU WANT 20 AND 23, WE'RE PULLING ITEM 20 [00:30:02] AND I AND, AND ITEM 23 FOR RECUSAL. OKAY. ITEMS 23 AND 24 ARE PULLED FOR RECUSAL AND YOU'RE PULLING ITEM 20 FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. OKAY. AND MR. MAYOR WAS AN ITEM 25. YEAH. ITEM 25 WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. AND 21. YEAH. OKAY. THE ITEMS LISTED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION TODAY ARE ITEMS 2023 AND 24. THERE. IF THERE ARE NO OTHERS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR 2023 AND 24. WE DO HAVE CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT, SO I'LL CALL THEM NOW. WE'LL START WITH JACK FINGER, FOLLOWED BY ELOY LEUE. YES. MAYOR NURNBERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M FINGER. A FEW ITEMS WISH TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA. YES. WELL, ACTUALLY I'M GLAD TO SEE. UH, ITEM NUMBER 20 IS, IS COMING FORWARD, UH, THE BIG DISPARITY AT MANY TIMES WHEN WE SEE TALL TWO STORY, THREE STORY, UH, HOUSING COMPLEXES RIGHT NEXT TO SINGLE LEVEL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES IN OUR, IN OUR VERY OWN NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M GLAD TO SEE SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT. UM, ITEM, UH, 24 MR. DIVISION MAY SHOW THAT JUST A COMPLETE, UH, PHRASING ON THAT, IF YOU WOULD, ESPECIALLY ON THE UNDERLINED AREA THERE. LET'S SEE, WHAT DOES IT SAY IF WE, IF IT TURNS OUT OKAY. OKAY. ORDINANCE APPROVING SANCTUARY TOURISM, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ASSESSMENT PLAN, FINAL 2020 ASSESSMENT RULE AND MAINTAINING ASSESSMENT RATE. LOOK AT THE UNDERLINED AREA ASSESSMENT RATE OF 2020 AT ONE POINT 25% OF THE GROSS HOTEL ROOM REVENUES SUBJECT TO LOCAL TAX DERIVED FROM AN INDIVIDUAL ROOM RENTAL, ET CETERA. CLOSE . YEAH, PLEASE RETURN THE, UH, CAMERA IF YOU WOULD. ONE POINT 25%. OKAY. NOW, IS THIS ON TOP OF THE ALREADY HIGH, I MEAN HIGH 1617 HOTEL TAX RATE FOR, FOR ROOMS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. MANY THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WHO MAY JUST RECENTLY ARRIVED, MAYBE YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, SAN ANTONIO HAS THE HIGHEST, AMONG THE HIGHEST, IF NOT THE HIGHEST HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX RATES IN THE NATION. YEAH. WE HERE, WE SAY WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE TOURISM, BUT , BUT HERE WE, WE DRIVE THEM AWAY WITH OUR HIGHER HOTEL TAX RATES. TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU WANT TO TACK THIS ONTO IT, WHY DON'T YOU REDUCE, REDUCE THE REGULAR HOTEL TAX RATE BY, UH, ONE POINT 25% TO SHOW THAT WE REALLY, REALLY DO WANT TOURISTS, TOURISTS TO COME BY. HUH? THAT'S JUST ONE IDEA, YOU KNOW, I JUST THOUGHT I'D MENTIONED TO YOU. OKAY. ALSO, ITEM 31. YOU THANK YOU MR. , MAN. YEAH. ITEM 31 IS, UH, IF WE CAN SEE THAT ARTISTS ADOPTING DOWNTOWN AIR REGIONAL PLAN AS A COMPONENT OF COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN YEAH. FOR A FOUR SQUARE MILE AREA. WELL, I, LOOKING AT THE BACK OF ADOPTION, I SAW A FEW THINGS THAT MIGHT GIVE US PAUSE THERE IF YOU WOULD PUT THAT UP THERE. YEAH. HERE'S, HERE'S YOUR PLAN. WHAT IS IT FOR, FOR, UH, GETTING AROUND DOWNTOWN AREA, IF YOU CAN. YEAH. DOWNTOWN COURSE SHOULD BE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED IS SO THAT O AND THE OVER THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE DRIVING CARS. THANK YOU MR. FINGER. WHO WERE THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE DRIVING CARS? SORRY, THAT DOESN'T CUT IT. ELOY LEUE. GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME'S ELOY LEUE AND I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING VIA METROPOLITAN TRANSIT, ONE OF OUR MANY AGENCIES SERVING THE DOWNTOWN REGIONAL, UH, REGIONAL CENTER PLAN COMMITTEE. FIRST, LET ME START BY SAYING THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE DURATION OF THIS PLANNING INITIATIVE. VIA HAS BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH MANY TALENTED STAFF OR FROM YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. OUR PARTICIPATION WAS GENERALLY FOCUSED ON IMPLEMENTATION [00:35:01] OF THE SHORT AND LONG RANGE TERM INITIATIVES WITH WITHIN OUR VIA VISION 2040 LONG PLANE RANGE PLAN AND SPECIFICALLY HOW THEY RELATE TO THE DOWNTOWN PLANNING AREA. NOWHERE ELSE IN THE SERVICE AREA DOES VIA HAVE A HIGHER CONCENTRATION OF SERVICE AND RIDERSHIP THAN WE DO IN THE DOWNTOWN REGION. THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE INPUT INTO THIS PLAN WAS KEY IN MAKING SURE THAT PRIORITY TRANSIT CORRIDORS WERE IDENTIFIED. THESE CORRIDORS SERVE TO PROVIDE MORE FREQUENT AND RELIABLE SERVICE FOR SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. FURTHER LEVERAGING THE 10 MILLION FUNDING PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH THE CITY, IN ADDITION TO THE PLANS FOR ADDITIONAL INCREASES AND FREQUENCIES. THE NORTH SOUTH ADVANCED RAPID TRANSIT ART LINE AND THE EAST WEST ART LINE ARE PLANNED TO GO THROUGH THIS DOWNTOWN REGION PROVIDING VITAL CONNECTIONS FOR PATRONS TO, FROM ALL SIDES OF THE COMMUNITY, USING DI DEDICATED LANES, TRANSIT LANES TO MOVE MORE PASSENGERS MORE QUICKLY AND MORE REAL RELIABILITY ART WILL BE TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT MORE AND MORE QUICKLY AND MORE RE PROJECT WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO REIMAGINE HOW PEOPLE WILL LIVE, WORK, LEARN, AND PLAY IN THE FUTURE. TO THAT END, DOWNTOWN REGIONAL PLAN ALSO IDENTIFIES FRILL STREET AS MIXED USE CORRIDORS, WHICH IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE VIA GOALS AND THE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT VIA HAS MADE ON THE CORRIDORS WITH VIA VILLA CENTRAL PLAZA AND THE PURCHASE OF THE SCOBY PROPERTY. PLEASE KNOW THAT VIA IS COMMITTED TO ASSISTING THE CITY IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE OF THE DOWNTOWN REGIONAL PLAN AS IT MOVES FORWARD. THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSMIT AMENITIES AND PEDESTRIAN STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED, REQUESTED, REQUIRED. WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. LEUE. ALL RIGHT. UH, WE DO HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND. WE DO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, IN THE QUEUE. SO WE'LL START, UH, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE DOWNTOWN REGIONAL CENTER PLAN. UM, SO YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIFTH OF THE SA TOMORROW PLANS TO BE COMPLETED AND IMPLEMENTED IN THE SA TOMORROW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER CONTAINS A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOODS, KING WILLIAM LOCA, LONE STAR, AND ROOSEVELT PARK NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WELL AS THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION AND SMALL PORTIONS OF DIGNITY HILL, DENVER HEIGHTS, AND THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOODS. THE ADOPTION OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN WILL GUIDE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO CONTINUE INVESTING IN A DOWNTOWN AREA THAT IS AS IS, IS A DIVERSE AND THRIVING CITY CENTER, ROOTED IN RICH HISTORY, ONE THAT IS FAMILY FRIENDLY, LIVABLE, AND INVITING TO RESIDENTS, WORKERS AND VISITORS. THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER ALSO RECENTLY RECEIVED THE DOWNTOWN ACHIEVEMENT PINNACLE AWARD FROM THE INTERNATIONAL DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION AT ITS 65TH ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN BALTIMORE, MARYLAND. THE I D A ANNUALLY AWARDS OUTSTANDING PROJECTS AS WINNERS OF THE PINNACLE AWARD, WHICH IDENTIFIES REVOLUTIONARY IMPROVEMENTS TO URBAN CENTERS BY DEDICATED ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE GLOBE. A SPECIAL THANKS TO CENTRO, IN FACT THAT THE FACT THAT OUR CITY HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED WITH THE INDUSTRY'S HIGHEST RECOGNI RECOGNITION, THE PINNACLE AWARD, IS A TREMENDOUS HONOR. I'D LIKE TO THANK, ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN APPLAUDING THE EFFORTS OF THE PLANNING TEAM AND CON AND CONTRIBUTING COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK AND THE DEDICATION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO, I, I'VE OVERLOOKED ONE, UH, CITIZEN WHO IS SIGNED UP ON A, ON A SEPARATE ITEM, SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP. NOW IS GARRETT ER HERE, GARRETT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON ITEM SEVEN, SINCE IT'S STILL ON CONSENT, THEN WE'LL GET TO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. YES. THANK YOU. UH, GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UM, I'M HERE TO, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR AWARD FOR THE BODY ARMOR CONTRACT FOR SAN ANTONIO, WHICH WAS AT ITEM SEVEN, I BELIEVE YOU, YOU MENTIONED. UM, UH, OUR FAMILY BUSINESS SAFETY SUPPLY HAS BEEN OPERATING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, UM, FOR OVER 30 YEARS, ALWAYS DEDICATING OUR EFFORTS TO KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE AT WORK. DURING MUCH OF THAT TIME, WE'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE, UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UM, AND IN, UH, IN ITS EFFORTS TO KEEP ITS EMPLOYEES SAFE AT WORK. SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, SS A P D, UH, SAN ANTONIO FIRE SAWS AND C P S ARE SOME OF OUR, UH, LARGEST, LARGEST CUSTOMERS. UM, I'M SPECIFICALLY HERE TO REQUEST THAT THE PARTIES TO THE SOLICITATION, UH, AND THE COUNCIL BE GIVEN MORE DETAILS, UM, ABOUT THE EVALUATION PROCESS AND SCORING PRIOR TO THE AWARD OF THIS CONTRACT. UM, AFTER BEING A [00:40:01] CONTRACTED BODY ARMOR PROVIDER FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, UM, AND D P S FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS, SERVING AGENCY DEMANDS THREE TIMES THE FORECASTED ANNUAL DEMAND OF THIS SOLICITATION. WE WERE SHOCKED TO SEE SCORES REPORTED, UM, UNDER THE EXPERIENCE PLAN AND WEAR TEST SECTION. UM, ONCE A RECOMMENDATION FOR AWARD WAS MADE, WE REQUESTED THAT, UH, THE WEAR TEST EVALUATION SHEETS, UH, BE MADE PUBLIC. UM, I WAS TOLD, UH, THAT WE SHOULD REQUEST THOSE ONCE THE CITY HAD RATIFIED THE CONTRACT. UM, IN THE SPIRIT OF A TRANSPARENT PROGRESS, UH, PROCESS, UM, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT ANY DOUBT SHOULD BE CLEARED PRIOR TO AWARDING THE CONTRACT, NOT, NOT POST-CONTRACT AWARD. UM, THIS TYPE OF TRANSPARENCY IS HEALTHY, UM, FOR, UH, FOR THE PROCESS AND GOOD FOR THE CITY AND ITS EMPLOYEES IN THIS CASE, UH, THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER. IT ALLOWS ENTREPRENEURS TO KNOW WHERE THEY NEED TO IMPROVE IN ORDER TO CONTINUALLY RAISE THE QUALITY AND SERVICE, UM, THAT THE CITY DESERVES, AND THAT ITS EMPLOYEES, UH, SHOULD EXPECT IN THEIR WORK ENVIRONMENT. UM, WHILE A $2 MILLION CONTRACT ISN'T MUCH FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, IT'S ENOUGH TO MAKE OR BREAK ANY SMALL BUSINESS. UM, UH, EVERYONE HERE UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE, UM, THAT THE CITY'S PURCHASING POWER HAS ON LOCAL, UH, SMALL BUSINESSES. AND ONCE AGAIN, I'D RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UH, THAT THE COUNCIL DELAY THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT UNTIL THE REQUESTED EVALUATION DETAILS AND DOCUMENTS ARE PROVIDED FOR REVIEW. UM, UH, SPECIFICALLY IF, IF THE, THE DOCUMENTS THAT I REQUESTED, UM, CAN BE, DO I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT OR CAN I LEAVE THAT, UM, LEAVE THAT BEHIND HERE. YEAH, SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE. SO, AS PART OF THE SOLICITATION, UM, UH, ADDENDUM NUMBER EIGHT ON THE SOLICITATION WAS, UH, PROVIDED AS A BODY ARMOR WEAR TEST, UM, UH, SCORING CARD. UM, THAT CARD, UM, IS, UH, WAS WARRANT WAS PROVIDED BY EACH POLICE OFFICER WHO TESTED A VEST UNDER THE TWO COMPANIES THAT WERE, THAT WERE IN THE SOLICITATION BEING, UH, OUR COMPANY SAFETY SUPPLY AND THE RECOMMENDED AND, UH, LEGACY CONTRACT, UH, HOLDER NARDIS. UM, AND, AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THOSE BE, UH, PROVIDED AND CONSIDERED, UM, FOR, UH, BY THE COUNCIL BEFORE AWARDING THE CONTRACT. UM, AND THEN, UH, FINALLY, THE, YOU ALL CAN SEE, UM, AS ONE OF THE ADDENDUMS ON THE AGENDA, THE, UH, UM, THE, UH, MORE DETAIL AROUND THE ACT, THE, THE TOP THREE SECTIONS OF THE AWARD PROCESS. SO I THINK MY TIME IS UP. SO I, I WOULD, UH, UH, WISH YOU ALL THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND, UH, WISH YOU ALL A SAFE HOLIDAY SEASON. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. WILKE, SIR. ALRIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM 34 A AND B ON CONSENT AGENDA. VERY EXCITED ABOUT THEA MEADOWS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A REVIVAL IN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF SAN ANTONIO, BUT AFFORDABLE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, MIXED INCOME. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THIS IS COMING FORWARD. SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING VERY HARD ON THIS FOR A WHILE, AND THAT WE'RE MAKING THIS, UM, HAPPEN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND IN DISTRICT THREE. UM, JUST TO OUR LAST SPEAKER RIGHT NOW, I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THIS, UM, THE, THE PLAN AND THE AMOUNT AND THE, UM, THE, UH, WHAT WAS SHARED. SO, TROY, IF YOU'RE HERE, OR, UM, MAYOR, SHOULD I JUST PULL THIS ITEM AND HAVE THIS CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT, UH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO EITHER CALL UP, UH, ADDITIONAL STAFF OR ANYONE YOU'D LIKE TO, TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. OKAY. OR YOU'RE WELCOME TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO EITHER ONE YOU PREFER. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, TROY, CAN YOU GIVE US THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON, UH, THIS, THE, THE SAFETY, UM, WHAT WAS, UH, FOR THE BODY ARMOR THAT, THE, THE SCORECARD, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT WITH US? SURE. AND I'LL PROBABLY TAG TEAM WITH RICK, UM, FROM, FROM THE, UM, ACTUALLY HELPED SERVE ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE OR HELPED FROM THE PD STANDPOINT. BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. THIS ITEM, UM, IS THE CONCEALED ARMOR, BODY ARMOR FOR, UH, POLICE OFFICERS. WE BASICALLY ISSUED AN R F P. UM, WE ISSUED AN R F P THROUGH AN EXEMPTION THAT ALLOWS US TO GO THROUGH AND HAS THE OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO TEST THE ACTUAL PRODUCT. AND THROUGH THE LABOR RELATIONS COMMITTEE MADE UP OF UNION MEMBERS AND PD, THEY WILL ACTUALLY COME FORWARD AND ACTUALLY PERFORM, WEAR TESTS OF THE PRODUCTS, SHOOTING TESTS, AND A VARIETY OF OTHER TESTS. AND THROUGH THOSE TESTING, THOSE RESULTS GET EMBEDDED INTO THE PROPOSED PLAN. AND ON THE PROPOSED PLAN, NORTIS SCORED [00:45:01] A TOTAL OF 54.5 POINTS AND SAFETY SUPPLY, BASED ON THEIR TESTING SCORED 25 POINTS, WHICH IS THE, WHICH BASICALLY MAKES SENSE IN THE PROPOSED PLAN BECAUSE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE WEARING THESE THINGS EVERY DAY IN FORM PROTECTION. SO THOSE OFFICERS WANT TO TEST THAT EXTENSIVELY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PRODUCT THAT WILL BE PROCURING. AND, UM, SO THEY, THE ONES THAT WERE TESTING WERE THE ONES THAT GAVE YOU THE NUMBERS AND THEY WERE JUST AUTOMATICALLY FIT IN? OR DID THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE ALSO GET TO, THEY JUST TOOK ALL OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE OFFICER EVALUATION? YEAH, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE HAD, I BELIEVE, SEVEN INDIVIDUALS THAT PARTICIPATED IN WEAR TESTS AND OTHER TYPES OF TESTING. AND THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDED LABOR RELATIONS COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, BASICALLY TOOK THOSE EVALUATION, UM, TESTS INTO CONSIDERATION. AND SO WHO HAD THIS BODY ARMOR CONTRACT BEFORE? UH, AN ARDI IS THE INCUMBENT CURRENTLY. OKAY. AND THAT THEY'LL BE AWARDED AS THEY'RE BEING RECOMMENDED FOR AWARD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT AN ITEM. UH, IT'S ITEM NUMBER NINE. IT IS A DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT IN DISTRICT SEVEN, AND THE CONTRACT IS, UH, FINALLY BEING LET, UM, IT'S MONEY THAT, UH, HAD BEEN REQUESTED IN THE, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE 2018 BUDGET. SO RIGHT WHEN I GOT TO COUNCIL, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THE 2012 BOND, AND WE WERE ABLE TO DIRECT IT TO, UH, AN AREA SUFFERING FROM A LOT OF DRAINAGE. UH, THE MONEY ISN'T GOING TO FIX EVERYTHING AS WE LEARNED WITH THE, UH, IN THE PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE HAD EARLIER THIS WEEK, UH, BUT I'M VERY EXCITED THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTED THANKS TO THIS. UH, CHILDREN WHO TAKE THE BUS TO SCHOOL, UH, WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO, UH, WAIT ON A CURB AS OPPOSED TO, UH, IN SOME PUDDLES RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS, WHICH IS THE SITUATION IN, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THERE'LL BE A STORM DRAIN SYSTEM, UH, THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE PAVEMENT, THE SIDEWALKS, UH, AND OF COURSE, THE UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS. AND THIS WILL HELP ALLEVIATE STREET FLOODING AND PONDING AND MAKE IT A SAFER PLACE, UH, TO LIVE AND TO WALK IN. SO I REALLY WANNA THANK, UH, STORMWATER, THE NEFE STORMWATER TEAM, AND EVERYONE WHO'S INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT WHO WENT OUT TO FOREST HILLS LIBRARY THIS WEEK, THEY DID A, A WONDERFUL JOB. AND, UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH IS PALO ALTO PARK, UH, PROJECT IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S 2017 BOND FUNDED PROJECT IN DISTRICT FOUR. UH, AND SO THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR, UM, ELECTRICAL UNDERGROUND WORK FOR A, FOR FOUR NEW 60, UH, FOOT SPORTS FIELD LIGHTS, AND ALSO TWO LIGHT LIGHT FIXTURES AND ADDED SPORTS FIELD LIGHTS FOR SECURITY. UM, IN ADDITION, THERE WILL BE NEW WALKWAYS AND TREES, AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IT, UM, BECAUSE I WANTED TO GIVE SPECIAL THANKS TO JUDY BENAVIDES, THE PRINCIPAL AT PALO ALTO ELEMENTARY, AND ALL OF THE STUDENTS AND FACULTY FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN HELPING BRING THIS, UH, PROJECT TO FRUITION. I'M EXCITED THAT THE PARK WILL NOT BE, UM, SHUT DOWN, WILL STILL REMAIN ACCESSIBLE AND OPERATIONAL DURING THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. BUT JUST MAINLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE STUDENTS IN FACULTY OF PALO ALTO ELEMENTARY WERE INSTRUMENTAL. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT IS ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR 2023 AND 24. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. [20. Ordinance amending the City Code of San Antonio, Texas, Chapter 35, Unified Development Code, Section 35-310-01 Table 310-1 Lot and Building Dimensions Table, relating to Lot and Building Dimensions in "RM" and "MF" districts and providing for publication. [Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Michael Shannon, Director, Development Services]] MOVE NOW TO ITEM 20. ITEM NUMBER 20 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY CODE OF SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, CHAPTER 35, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 35 DASH THREE 10 DASH ZERO ONE, TABLE THREE 10 DASH ONE LOT, AND BUILDING DIMENSION TABLE RELATED TO THE LOT IN BUILDING DIMENSIONS IN RMM AND F M F DISTRICTS AND PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER. OH, THERE YOU GO, VINNO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, WELL, UH, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? MIKE? I, I CAN IF YOU'D LIKE, SIR. OKAY. WELL, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KIND OF GIVE SOME, THIS IS A C C R I FILED IN 2017, AND MAYBE JUST TO GIVE IT SOME, SOME CONTEXT AND, UH, AND THEN WE CAN SURE. I'LL GIVE A REAL QUICK PRESENTATION FOR YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, I'M MIKE SHANNON, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT, UH, ITEM NUMBER 20 FOR YOU. AND REALLY, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE ZONING. SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT MF 33 AND RMM FOUR ZONING, SO KIND OF MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT, UH, DESIGNATIONS, REALLY THOSE DESIGNATIONS INSIDE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. SO AS, UH, COUNCILMAN JUST MENTIONED [00:50:01] IN 2017, UM, HE, UH, SPONSORED A C C R, UH, TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT U D C, UH, REGULATIONS, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, AND TALKING ABOUT THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT INSIDE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT INSIDE, UH, LOOP FOUR 10 NOW, REALLY ALL OVER THE CITY. UH, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO BETTER THE CODE, TO ADDRESS THE GROWING NEEDS, UH, FOR HOUSING, UH, BUT ALSO TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT? EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SEEING A LOT OF, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENTS, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE CODES, UH, HELP PROTECT THAT. SO, UH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT, UH, KIND OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE LOOK LOOKING AT HERE, THE RMM FOUR AND MF 33, SO THOSE ARE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF UP TO 35 OR 45 FOOT, UH, STRUCTURES. UM, WE, BUT THEY, THEY ALLOW MORE THAN ONE STRUCTURE ON A LOT. SO A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION ALLOWS ONE HOUSE, MAYBE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THESE CAN ALLOW MULTIPLE, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW. SO NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THAT HAVE LOTS DESIGNATED RMM FOUR AND MF 33 THROUGHOUT, OR SCATTERED WITHIN THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD ZONING SINCE THE 1930S. THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL UPDATES TO THAT OVER THE PAST, ALMOST A CENTURY. UH, BUT IN 2001, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE U D C, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSIONS, UH, TO KEEP THE OLD DESIGNATIONS CONVERTED TO THIS. SO THE RMM FOUR, MF 33, UH, STAYED THERE. SO THE INCREASED REDEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SEEING INSIDE, UH, ESPECIALLY EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, A LOT OF INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT NOT JUST THERE, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF REALLY INCOMPATIBLE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, MAYBE, UH, HEIGHT LOT COVERAGE, MASSING, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. UM, AND IT WAS REALLY STANDING OUT AND CAUSING SOME PRESSURES, UH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO, AGAIN, JUST TO, UH, KIND OF LOOK AT, UH, THE RMM RESIDENTIAL MIX DISTRICTS, WE HAVE IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW, RMM SIX OR RMM FIVE, RMM FOUR, RMM FOUR IS REALLY, REALLY PREVALENT IN THESE AREAS. AND, UM, IT ALLOWS UP TO FOUR UNITS. UM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, AND IT ALLOWS 35 FEET AND 33 STORIES. AND MF 33, YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICTS. UH, AND IT GROWS FROM MF 18 TO MF 65 AND A BUNCH IN BETWEEN, BUT THE MULTI-FAMILY, UH, 33, UH, 33 UNITS PER ACRE. BUT THIS, THE BIG ONE THERE IS, IT ALLOWS BY RIGHT UP TO 45 FEET, UH, HOUSES. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. HOUSES. NOW, TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY ONLY ALLOWS, UH, 35 FEET. SO WE'RE GETTING SOME LARGER STRUCTURES NEXT TO SOME SHORTER, UM, EXISTING HOMES. AND IT REALLY IS, UH, PUTTING SOME PRESSURE ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WHAT DID WE DO? THIS WAS A CHALLENGING PROBLEM. WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE CONCERNED, NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER? SO WE PUT A TASK FORCE TOGETHER, WE REACHED OUT TO OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WE REACHED OUT TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND YOUR OFFICES, UH, AND SOME OF YOUR PREDECESSORS TO PUT THIS, UH, TOGETHER. HEY, HOW CAN WE HAVE A BALANCE GROUP OF, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS THAT ARE SEEING THIS DEVELOPMENT AND DEALING WITH THIS EVERY DAY, UH, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT'S ACTUALLY TRYING TO BUILD IN THESE AREAS TO, TO PROVIDE THAT HOUSING, UH, THAT THE MARKET, UH, IS LOOKING FOR. SO WE HAD ABOUT 16, I THINK, EXACTLY 16 PEOPLE ON THIS. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THERE, REPRESENTED A GOOD BALANCED GROUP. SO THERE'S OUR TASK FORCE. WE UTILIZED THE CONCEPTS OF ESSAY SPEAKUP. UH, BUT WE REALLY HAD SEVEN MEETINGS. UH, AND, AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING CODE, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, NOT ONLY RESEARCH AND DEBATE, UH, SOME OF IT, UH, YOU KNOW, MILD, SOME OF IT VERY PASSIONATE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MAKES FOR A GOOD CODE CHANGE ORDINANCE. UM, WE'VE BEEN MEETING FOR THE PAST SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS, AND THEN WE HAD A COUPLE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHERE WE OPENED IT UP TO THE PUBLIC TO TRY TO TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL. AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE WE BUILT SOME CONSENSUS ON REALLY THE THREE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OTHERS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA PLAN TO DO WITH THOSE. SO, FIRST AND FOREMOST, HEIGHT. UH, WHEN YOU LIVE IN A ONE OR TWO, UH, UH, ONE OR TWO FAMILY HOUSE, AND IT'S A TYPICAL, UH, ONE OR TWO STORY, MAYBE TWO AND A HALF STORIES, AND YOU SEE, UH, MAYBE A, A THREE OR FOUR STORY, 45 FOOT STRUCTURE BEING BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO YOU, THAT'S CONCERNING. SO THAT MASSING OR THAT HEIGHT IS REALLY INCOMPATIBLE. THE CONE ALLOWS THAT. NOW. SO THE PROPOSAL IS, AND THIS ONE WE OBVIOUSLY GOT REALLY GOOD CONSENSUS VERY QUICKLY. I THINK IT MIGHT'VE BEEN THE FIRST MEETING, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY SAID, YEAH, THAT KIND OF MAKES SENSE. SO THE, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGE IS TO REWRITE THE CODE SO THAT THE MAXIMUM IS 35 FEET, JUST LIKE THE HOUSE, YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE UP TO 35 FEET. UM, SO WE WOULD BRING THAT DOWN. SO IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE, THEY'D HAVE TO BE THE, THE SAME HEIGHT OR LESS, UH, THEN WHAT THE HOUSE COULD BE. NOW, IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE A SIGNIFICANT 50 FOOT SETBACK, OKAY? SO THAT, THAT WAS AGREED UPON. BUT I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST, UM, UH, CODE CHANGE THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD THAT EVERYBODY FELT, UH, COMFORTABLE WITH, AND IT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE THE MOST IMPACT. THE OTHER ONE IS, AS YOU'RE RUNNING DOWN THE STREET, OR YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, WE, WE HAVE SETBACK RULES, RIGHT? UH, AND IN, IN OUR CODE [00:55:01] TODAY, TYPICAL HOUSES HAVE A MINIMUM SETBACK OF ABOUT 10 FEET. UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE THINGS SET BACK OFF THE STREET, WHEREAS MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES HAVE A MAXIMUM SETBACK THAT'S KIND OF PUSHED TOWARDS THE STREET. SO AS THESE ARE BEING DEVELOPED, WE KIND OF HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, SOME ARE FURTHER BACK, SOME ARE CLOSE TO THE STREET, IT KINDA LOOKS ODD. AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE ARE FOR LOTS THAT A THIRD OF AN ACRE IS SMALLER, THAT MF 33 LOTS HAVE THE SAME EXACT SETBACK RULES AS HOUSES, RIGHT? WE WANT TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPATIBLE CONSISTENCY AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO KIND OF HELP PROTECT THAT CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND FINALLY, THE THIRD ONE, UH, THAT WE'RE PRESENTING IS STREET ORIENTATION. NOW, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AGAIN, AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, MOST HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT 30, 40, 50 YEARS AGO, OR LONGER, A LOT OF THEM FRONT DOORS, RIGHT, FRONT WALKWAYS, FRONT PORCHES, ET CETERA, THEY'RE FACING THE STREET. WELL, SOME OF THE, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENTS THEY'RE CREATING FOUR OR SO LOTS. WHAT THEY DO IS THEY CREATE THIS DRIVEWAY THAT THEY ALL USE, THEY SHARE, AND ALL THE HOUSES IN THERE, OR ALL THE UNITS FACE EACH OTHER. THEY DON'T FACE THE STREET. THEY KIND OF CREATE THIS LITTLE COURTYARD EFFECT. IT'S ACTUALLY VERY POPULAR. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF IT. BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT CREATES THIS OUT OF CHARACTER LOOK IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE, UM, YOU MIGHT SEE A SIDE BLANK WALL OF A, YOU KNOW, 20 OR 30 FOOT STRUCTURE, UH, WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE STREET SEEING THESE, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONAL FRONT ENTRY HOMES. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS YOU CAN STILL HAVE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THE FRONT STRUCTURE OR STRUCTURES, THE ONES THAT YOU REALLY CAN SEE FROM THE STREET, ARE, ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT FRONT ENTRYWAY, THAT FRONT FACADE, UM, THAT FRONT ENTRY ORIENTED TO THE STREET, SO THAT IT LOOKS MORE COMPATIBLE AS YOU'RE DOING IT. AND THAT'S REALLY, UH, WHAT, WHAT WHAT WE WANT IS WE WANT THAT COMPATIBLE DESIGN. WE WANNA ALLOW THAT, UH, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, UH, BUT HAVE IT BE MORE COMPATIBLE. SO THAT WAS A, UH, A KEY ELEMENT, UH, THAT CAME OUT. NOW, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING CODES, A LOT OF OTHER THINGS COME UP. A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT ISSUES COME UP, AND THEY WERE WRESTLED WITH AND TALKED ABOUT. UM, A LOT OF THEM THOUGH HAD BIGGER IMPLICATIONS THAN JUST RMM, UH, AREAS, MF AREAS. UH, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES LIKE HEIGHT MEASUREMENTS. HOW DO YOU MEASURE HEIGHT, UH, PER THE BUILDING CODE OR DEVELOPMENT CODE, OR A PERCENT OF LOT COVERAGE? SHOULD THERE BE A REQUIREMENT THERE, OR MINIMUM MAXIMUM? SHOULD WE MODIFY THOSE? ANOTHER BIG ONE IS WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE STRUCTURES LIKE THIS, UH, ON A LOT, MAYBE THREE OR FOUR, SHOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO BE ATTACHED OR REQUIRED TO BE DETACHED? UH, THAT ONE WAS DEBATED A LOT. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS STILL. UM, AND WHAT WE HAVE FOUND, THERE'S NOT REALLY A CONSENSUS. UH, WE HAVE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, I I'VE HEARD THAT THEY WANT 'EM ALL ATTACHED, SOME THAT DON'T. UH, AND, UH, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE WORKING THROUGH THEIR N C D PROCESS ON THAT RIGHT NOW. UH, THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE TAKE UP WITH THE, UM, U D C PROCESS, SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER WE SHOULD HAVE A SITE PLAN REQUIREMENT, UH, AS PART OF PRELIMINARY REVIEWS, AND THEN CERTAINLY WATER MANAGEMENT, WATER MANAGEMENT, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT LID REQUIREMENTS. SO ALL OF THOSE, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES TO TALK ABOUT. BUT BECAUSE THEY NEED MORE DISCUSSION, THERE'S NOT A REAL GOOD CONSENSUS YET. AND ALSO THEY TOUCH, OTHER THAN JUST THESE DISTRICTS, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT, UH, MORE APPROPRIATE TO TALK ABOUT THEM IN THE U D C PROCESS, WHICH STARTS IN JUST A FEW MONTHS, RIGHT? SO, UH, WE HAVE THOSE KIND OF ON OUR LIST TO, TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE PART OF THAT PROCESS. SO, UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE WENT TO, UH, THE VA, UH, THE ZONING COMMISSION. ONE OF THE ITEMS, UH, THE PTAC, UH, PC TAC, UH, RECOMMENDED WAS CLARIFYING THAT THE HEIGHT LIMITATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, ITEM NUMBER ONE, UH, DOES NOT APPLY. UH, VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER SECTIONS OF THE CODE. IF YOU HAVE A, AN A BUDDING PROPERTY ZONE SINGLE FAMILY, BUT NOT FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES. SO IF YOU HAVE A CHURCH THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH, ALSO, UH, ZONING COMMISSION CLARIFIED THAT, THAT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO VACANT PROPERTIES AS WELL. UM, OH, I THINK I WENT THE WRONG WAY. THAT'S ME. USER ERROR. AND AGAIN, HERE'S OUR TIMELINE. YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE BEEN KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET THIS THING STARTED. WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATION WITH A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE. I THINK SOME OF THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS ARE HERE, UH, MAYBE EVEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, BUT REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR WORK. AND, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE CHANGE THE U D C TODAY, UH, FOR THOSE THREE ISSUES OF FRIGHT, HEIGHT, FRONT SETBACK, STREET ORIENTATION. AND AGAIN, THAT COMPATIBILITY OF NEW DEVELOPMENT IN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS IS CRITICAL. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS, UH, ON WHATEVER, UH, ORGANIZATION THEY REPRESENTED. THEY REALLY DID A, A, A, A LOT OF WORK AND, UH, DID GREAT WORK TO HELP US GET HERE TODAY. THANK YOU, MIKE. AND, UM, DO WE HAVE CITIZENS SIGNED UP? WE HAVE A FEW. SO, UM, OKAY. UM, I, I'D LIKE TO, UM, THERE, THERE WAS A, A FEW THAT WERE PART OF THE TASK FORCE THAT DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SIGN UP, BUT I, I'D LIKE TO, UM, CALL 'EM UP AS A GROUP AND IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN HAVE THEM AT, AFTER, UH, THE LI WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST. NO PROBLEM. WE'LL DO THAT. THANK YOU. UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH MS. TERRY CASTILLO, WHO'LL BE FOLLOWED BY MARY JOHNSON. OH, OH, THEY'RE THE GROUP. GREAT. , GO FOR IT. PLEASE COME ON UP. [01:00:02] SO THERE ARE THREE OF YOU, YOU'LL SPEAK AS A GROUP. UM, SO, UH, IF THERE, IF YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK AS A GROUP, YOU'LL HAVE NINE MINUTES TOTAL, OR YOU CAN EACH SPEAK FOR THREE INDIVIDUALLY. UM, SURE. OKAY. SO INDIVIDUALLY, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AS A GROUP. OKAY, GREAT. UM, WE'LL BEGIN THE TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. HELLO CITY COUNCIL. I'M TERRY CASTILLO, A RESIDENT OF THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE AND A COALITION MEMBER IN THE WEST SIDE RESIDENT ASSOCIATIONS COALITION. AND I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS EXPRESSED IN THE MANY EMAILS SENT ON BEHALF OF TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION SENT TO MANY OF Y'ALL. UM, REGARDING THE DSDS ADDED RECOMMENDATIONS, SUCH RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD ALLOW MF 33 PROJECTS NEXT TO EMPTY SINGLE RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO BE BUILT HIGHER NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. DISTRICT FIVE HAS OVER 3,420 MF 30 THREES, AND 560 RMM FOURS DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. AND BY GIFTING, GIFTING MARKET-BASED PLANNING WITH AN ADDITIONAL 10 FEET, THE PEOPLE OF DISTRICT FIVE WILL BE VULNERABLE TO PREDATORY PRACTICES OF THOSE WHO PROFIT FROM THE REAL ESTATE MARKET. WE ARE CONCERNED WITH THE AMBIGUITY OF THE LANGUAGE USED REGARDING VACANT LOTS UNDER NOTE 11. THAT WAS JUST ADDED LAST MINUTE. AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN SOME AMENDMENTS THAT IT WOULD BE THREE YEARS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE LAND SPECULATION. UM, SUCH LAX ZONING IS ENTICING FOR LAND SPECULATORS, ABSENTEE LANDLORDS AND DEVELOPERS, AND WILL FURTHER INCENTIVIZE THE DEMOLITION OF OUR HISTORIC HOMES. I UNDERSTAND THAT HEIGHT BONUSES ARE BEING SUPPORTED UNDER THE GUISE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT AFFORDABLE TO WHO, ESPECIALLY GIVEN OUR GROWING POVERTY AND LOWERING, UH, A M I, UM, BEFORE THE CITY INCENTIVIZES THOSE WHO BENEFIT FROM UPZONING. WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT HOUSING POLICY THAT PROTECTS EXISTING HOMEOWNERS, RENTERS, AND LOCAL BUSINESSES. WE NEED TO ALLOCATE MORE FUNDING TO GENUINELY INTENTIONED EQUITABLE HOUSING, UH, REHABILITATION PROGRAMS LIKE COUNCIL INTRAVENOUS UNDER ONE ROOF, PROGRAM CODE COMPLIANCE NEEDS TO IMPLEMENT A MORATORIUM ON THE DEMOLITION OF HOMES. AND OUR NEIGHBORS NEED PROTECTION FROM SOARING PROPERTY TAXES. WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THE PREDATORY PRACTICES OF DEVELOPERS USING CODE COMPLIANCE TO MAKE ANONYMOUS CALLS. THE TARGETING OF FOLKS WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND HAVE HAD THEIR WATER TURNED OFF OR ARE LAID ON PROPERTY TAXES IN ORDER TO BUY THE PROPERTY OF THESE VULNERABLE HOMEOWNERS. THE DISPLACEMENT OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES DOES NOT HAPPEN ON ITS OWN. DISPLACEMENT HAPPENS WHEN THERE IS AN IMBALANCE IN UPZONING THAT BENEFITS THE REAL ESTATE MARKET AND NOT THE WORKING PEOPLE AND LOCAL BUSINESSES. WHERE'S THE LACKS LANGUAGE THAT BENEFITS LOCAL BUSINESSES AND FAMILIES WHO DO NOT HOLD THE SAME WEALTH AS DEVELOPERS? WHERE'S THE TAX ABATEMENTS AND ZONING EXEMPTIONS FOR WORKING CLASS SAN ANTONIANS WHO CANNOT BUY DEVELOPMENT LOBBYISTS AND LAND USE LAWYERS? WITH THAT BEING SAID, I STRESS THE NEED TO REMOVE THE WORDING COMPLETELY PROPOSED BY THE ZONING COMMISSION REGARDING VACANT PROPERTIES. AND NOTE 11. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. HI, MY NAME IS MARY JOHNSON AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE TIER ONE STEERING COMMITTEE, AND I WANNA READ THE STATEMENT THAT FROM TIER ONE, UM, WE APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT THE TASK FORCE AND I WAS A MEMBER OF THIS TASK FORCE. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN TURINO FOR CREATING IT. UM, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT EVERYONE ON THE TASK FORCE AND AND STAFF HAVE DONE ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES, BUT WE FEEL THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT COMPLETE AS THEY COULD BE. THE C C R ISSUED ON AUGUST, 2017 BY COUNCILMAN TRAVINO WAS CREATED WITH THE INTENT TO ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY ISSUES. WE ASK THAT YOU FOCUS ON THE C C R AND THE MAIN ISSUES IT WAS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS, WHICH ARE THE HEIGHT, WHICH WE FEEL THAT WAS ADDRESSED IN SOME OF THE ZONINGS. THE MULTIPLE INDIVIDUAL STRUCTURES ON A LOT ARE VERY PROBLEMATIC, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD NOTIFICATION AND INPUT. WITH THIS FOCUS IN MIND, WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE CHANGES BEING PROPOSED TODAY WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS. AND TABLE THREE 10 DASH ONE REMOVE THE WORDING PROPOSED BY THE ZONING COMMISSION REGARDING VACANT PROPERTIES. IN NOTE 11, ADOPT THE CLARIFICATION PROVIDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON NOTE 11. THE, THE VACANT PROPERTY NOTE WAS NOT PART OF THE TASK FORCE. IT WAS CREATED AT ZONING. AMEND THE TABLE TO REFLECT 35 SLASH TWO AND A HALF STORIES FOR MF 1825 AND 33, ALLOWING EXCEPTIONS BASED ON P, THE PC TAX CLARIFICATION OF NOTE 11, THE PLACEMENT OF NOTE 11. AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, WHICH ADDRESSES HEIGHT SHOULD BE MOVED FROM THE HEADER OF THE TABLE TO THE FIRST COLUMN FOR EACH ZONING CATEGORY. THIS WILL ALIGN THE PLACEMENT OF THE NOTE TO MATCH THE REST OF THE TABLE LENDING CLARITY, UH, TO ALL THOSE THAT USE THE TABLE IN THE FUTURE, THIS HAS BEEN A HUGE PROBLEM. TO ADDRESS MASSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD NOTIFICATION [01:05:01] INPUT C 35, UH, THREE 10 DASH ONE AMEND LANGUAGE FROM MUST OCCUR WITHIN A COMPLETELY ENCLOSED STRUCTURE TO READ MUST OCCUR WITHIN A SINGLE COMPLETELY ENCLO ENCLOSED STRUCTURE. THIS WILL ADDRESS THE CONCERN OVER MULTIPLE STRUCTURES. UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN INCENTIVIZING THE LUXURY PROFIT DRIVEN, UH, CONDOMINIUMS AND MULTIPLE UNITS ON THE LOT DISPLACING PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY, THEY DEMO A LOT OF THE, THE HOUSES, UH, THIRTY FIVE THREE TEN SIX A AND B INSERT SHALL BE CONTAINED IN A SINGLE STRUCTURE AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE. THIS WILL FURTHER ADDRESS CONCERNS OVER MULTIPLE UNITS BEING ATTACHED. THESE TWO CHANGES THAT ADDRESS MASSING WILL ALSO HELP ADDRESS THE THIRD CONCERN OVER NEIGHBORHOOD NOTIFICATION AS WELL. IF A PROPERTY OWNER WISHES TO DEVELOP THEIR SITE WITH DIFFERENT MASSING, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. THE B O A PROCESS IS PUBLIC AND WOULD TRIGGER THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION AND INPUT TO THAT PROCESS. HERE ARE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF BOTH NEW INCOMPATIBLE AND MULTIPLE STRUCTURE RMM FOUR DEVELOPMENTS, OH, NEVERMIND. THEY'RE NOT GONNA LET US SHOW YOU OUR WONDERFUL PICTURES THAT WE HAD OF EXISTING, UH, RMM AND MF PROPERTIES. THANK YOU. IF, IF Y'ALL NEED TO USE THE OVERHEAD, IT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU. WE HAVE STAFF TO ASSIST, WE HAVE IT ON A JUMP DRIVE AND, UM, EVIDENTLY YOU NEED 24 HOURS TO GET TO THEM. OKAY, THAT'S, UH, ALRIGHT. I'M CYNTHIA SPILLMAN. I LIVE IN BEACON HILL AND, UM, I'M ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF TIER ONE. I JUST WANNA MAKE SOME CLOSING REMARKS. YOU KNOW, WE UM, ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE AGAINST, WE'RE AGAINST DEVELOPMENT THAT DESTROYS NEIGHBORHOODS AND DISPLACES RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. IT'S VERY REAL FOR US. WHEN I SEE MY NEIGHBOR STANDING IN HIS DRIVEWAY SAYING, THEY TELL ME IT'S AN INVESTMENT, BUT THIS IS MY HOME. WHERE AM I GOING TO GO? AND INDEED, WHERE IS HE GONNA GO? THERE'S NO PLACE WITHIN THE CITY HE COULD AFFORD EVEN SELLING HIS HOME. WE'RE LOOKING AT HOUSING THAT TURNED INTO MF 30 THREES AND RMM FOURS WHEN OUR PEOPLE WERE FLEEING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND MOVING NORTHWARD. AND PEOPLE WITHOUT PERMITS, WITHOUT REZONING WERE JUST CHOPPING UP HOUSES. AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES IT WAS SLUMLORDS JUST CHOPPING UP HOUSES AND PUTTING IN, UM, UM, DIFFERENT APARTMENTS OR MAKING A BOARDING HOUSE. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH CREATING DENSITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MISSING MIDDLE, UH, HOUSING THAT WE'RE TOLD AND WE UNDERSTAND IS IMPORTANT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, THE PICTURES WE HAD WOULD SHOW YOU THAT THOSE MIXING, THOSE MISSING MIDDLES ARE DUPLEXES. THEY'RE QUADPLEXES, THEY'RE TRIPLEXES, AND THEY FIT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAVE THEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WHAT WHAT HURTS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IS WHEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND THEY DO SIX CONDOS THAT ARE THREE AND A HALF STORY HIGHS NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THERE'S NOT ANYBODY ON THIS, UM, SITTING HERE ON THE DAIS THAT WOULD WANT THAT NEXT DOOR, YOU KNOW, BLOCKING THE SUNLIGHT AND, AND CREATING CHANGES. THOSE KINDS OF CHANGES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY WERE TOLD AT ZONING THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT THIS AS U D C AMENDMENTS. I'M SORRY, I'VE GOT THE FLU. UM, AND, AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT'S NOT EXACTLY TRUE. I MEAN, WE CAN SUBMIT AMENDMENTS, BUT UNLESS WE'RE CLARIFYING OR EDITING EXISTING AMENDMENTS AND NOT CHANGING THEM IN ANY WAY, THAT'S ALL THAT'S ACCEPTED. OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVE TO BE SPONSORED THROUGH PLANNING. SO WHAT HAPPENS HERE TODAY IS PRETTY MUCH IT FOR US AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT RMM FOUR THAT OUT IN THE SUBURBS, THEY'RE PLANNED COMMUNITIES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE GROUPED TOGETHER, AND IT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM TO BE 45 FEET HIGH IN DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'VE GOT THESE INTER DISPERSED IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS, AND THIS IS WHERE WE COME TO YOU. THIS IS WHERE WE EXPECT YOU TO BE THE INTERMEDIARY WE EXPECT YOU TO BE. THE PROBLEM SOLVERS FOR US. LIKE, HOW DO WE HAVE THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WE NEED OUTSIDE LOOP FOUR 10, AND HOW DO WE CREATE DENSITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN A WAYS THAT DOESN'T DESTROY? AND WE ASK YOU TO HELP US FIGURE THAT OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. SPIELMAN. UM, THANK YOU ALL. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. OH, YOU OKAY. WE DO HAVE OTHER CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM 20. UM, RUSSELL YEAGER. I'LL COME BACK. OKAY. YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY JOHN COOLEY. GOOD MORNING COUNSEL. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. UH, MY NAME IS RUSSELL YEAGER, 57 10 HAUSMAN. UH, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF CIVIL ENGINEERING FOR BIG RED DOG ENGINEERING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. AND HAVE, UH, BEEN WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. I WAS A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE, AND I WANNA SAY THANK [01:10:01] YOU GUYS FOR ALLOWING A TASK FORCE TO BE CREATED TO TRY AND DEVELOP AND, AND FIND SOLUTIONS FOR CHALLENGES LIKE THIS. UH, MANY OTHER PLACES AROUND, UH, THE STATE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY. WE DON'T HAVE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE COMMUNITY, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, WE, WE, AS A TASK FORCE, UM, OUR COMMITTEE LOOKED AT A WIDE RANGE OF ITEMS. OBVIOUSLY YOU SAW, UH, MR. SHANNON'S PRESENTATION. UH, WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF ITEMS, UH, SOME OF WHICH, UH, WE BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY, AND SOME OF WHICH, UH, WE HAD RECOMMENDED, UH, FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION. BUT WE FELT THAT THE, THAT THE THREE ITEMS THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY, THE MATCHING SETBACKS ON ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT FOR THOSE PROJECTS, UH, IN RMM AND MF LOTS, UH, IN EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS, WOULD HELP TO, UH, AND MATCHING THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE WOULD HELP TO LIMIT THE TYPE OF IMPACT THAT WE SEE FROM THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, THOSE TWO ITEMS AND THE REQUIREMENT OF ORIENTATION TO MATCH SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ALONG THOSE ROADWAYS, WE FELT ADDRESSED THE MAJORITY OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE ASKED FOR IN THE C C R. UH, AS MR. SHANNON MENTIONED, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED THAT HAD SIGNIFICANT AND WIDE RANGING IMPACTS ON THE U D C AND THE CITY OVERALL. UH, THOSE WERE DISCUSSED HEAVILY. WE BROKE OUT IN MULTIPLE SEPARATE SESSIONS BEYOND JUST THE MAIN COMMITTEE MEETINGS, TOOK NOTES ON THOSE AND BROUGHT THOSE BACK TO CITY STAFF. UH, WE CATALOGED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE. AND IN, AND MENTIONED TO STAFF AND, UH, OUR COMMITTEE THAT WE FELT LIKE THEY NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE 2020 AMENDMENTS. UH, THAT WAS A DECISION OF THE COMMITTEE OVERALL. UM, BECAUSE OF THE WIDE RANGING IMPACTS OF THOSE AMENDMENTS, WE FELT LIKE THEY WEREN'T WITHIN THE RANGE OF THE C C R OR THE REQUEST TO ADDRESS THESE SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS. UH, WE DO FEEL LIKE SOME OF THOSE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND DISCUSSED, BUT FELT LIKE THEY NEEDED A MORE BREADTH THAN WHAT WE WERE GIVEN WITH THE C C R THAT WAS, THAT WAS ASKED FOR. I DO HOPE THAT THEY ARE ADDRESSING THE U D C AMENDMENTS. I KNOW THAT THE, UH, THE LADY RIGHT BEFORE ME MENTIONED THAT SOME OF THOSE MAY NEED TO BE SPONSORED BY PLANNING. I DO HOPE THAT PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE OTHER GROUPS DO TAKE THOSE UP AND AT LEAST DISCUSS THEM AND ADDRESS THEM AND, AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY. BUT WE DID FEEL LIKE THEY WERE GONNA IMPACT, UH, ALL OF THE CITY INSTEAD OF JUST THESE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE FELT LIKE THESE THREE WERE, WERE GOOD WINS FOR THE GROUP TO HELP TO DEVELOP A BETTER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR GROWING CITY AND OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS TO HELP THE BALANCE OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, TO NOT HAVE AS MUCH OF AN IMPACT ON THOSE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND, UH, WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THOSE THREE ITEMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. YEAGER. JOHN COOLEY. GOOD MORNING. UH, MY NAME IS JOHN COOLEY. I AM THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF TERRAMARK URBAN HOMES AT 9 0 5 NORTH PINE. UH, I WAS ALSO IN THE TASK FORCE, AND, UH, AS BOTH PARTIES HAVE HAVE DISCUSSED BEFORE US, IT WAS A, A VERY HEATED BUT BUT PRODUCTIVE TASK FORCE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, VARIOUS COMPONENTS THAT GO INTO AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND AS, UH, AS A COMPANY IS OUR PRIMARY FOCUS TO BUILD CONTACT SENSITIVE INFILL DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL SEE AS WE GO FORWARD AS A CITY IS AFFORDABILITY IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THESE DECISIONS. IN THESE RULES THAT WE MAKE TODAY. THE HARDER IT IS TO DEVELOP, THE FEWER DEVELOP DEVELOPMENTS WE PRODUCE AND THE MORE EXPENSIVE THOSE EXISTING HOMES AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS BECOME. UH, I'D LIKE TO, I HAD A, I HAD A NUMBER OF NOTES. I THINK REALLY, YOU KNOW, RUSSELL AND MR. SHANNON'S PRESENTATION COVERED A LOT OF THE, THE DETAILS OF HOW THE TASK FORCE WAS FORMED AND THE, AND THE PRODUCTIVE WORK THAT WAS DONE THERE. UH, AS IT SPECIFICALLY RELATES TO AFFORDABILITY, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD ON. UM, I WOULD POINT TO AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT THAT WE JUST FINISHED. UM, THE FIRST PHASE OF, ON THE NEAR EAST SIDE, IT'S, IT'S ON, IT'S BY THE EAST MEADOWS, UH, REDEVELOPMENT OF THE OLD WHEATLEY COURTS. SO THESE WERE SINGLE LOTS THAT WERE ZONED M F 33. THEY WERE OWNED BY SAHA. UH, SOME OF THEM WERE OWNED BY THE CITY, AND EVENTUALLY SAHA WAS ABLE TO GET 'EM. UH, WHAT THEY WANTED TO PUT ON THE GROUND WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO THESE WERE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO SOMEBODY MAKING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF A M I, MAYBE 80% OF A M I. UM, BUT MORE THAN LIKELY 120 PLUS PERCENT OF A M I. UH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, AS, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD A NEW HOUSE IN THE CITY AT $150,000, $130,000. THERE'S, I MEAN, THERE'S NOT MANY OF 'EM ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE ZONING OF THESE LOTS WERE MF 33. WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH SAHA AND COME IN AND DO SMALLER HOMES TWO TO A LOT. AND SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHILE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MAY BE CONTEXT AND SENSITIVE, I THINK IF YOU WERE TO DRIVE OVER THERE THE CORNER OF, YOU KNOW, HAZE AND, AND LOCKHART, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE HOUSES WHERE THE BACKYARD ISN'T 50, [01:15:01] 60 FEET DEEP, THE BACKYARD'S 20 FEET DEEP. SO YOU'VE GOT TWO HOUSES ON A LOT. THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THOUSAND 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOUSES THAT ARE $130,000. WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE THESE TYPES OF ZONING ARE IN PLACE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK THESE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING ARE, MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, 35 FEET, FOUR STORIES IS SOMETIMES CONTEXT INSENSITIVE. AND I THINK THE CHANGES THAT WE, WE'VE PROPOSED ADDRESS THAT. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE, UH, THESE ZONES OF MF 33 AND R FOUR AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO USE THEM TO, TO REALLY FOCUS ON AFFORDABILITY, UM, AS WELL AS DELIVER, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE MARKET IS LOOKING FOR IN AND ESTABLISH NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. COOLEY. COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, MIKE, SO IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS, UM, AS, AS WAS STATED. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE HERE. UM, LET'S, LET'S KIND OF WORK A LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS, UH, WHAT WAS SAID REGARDING, UH, THE U D C PROCESS. 'CAUSE, 'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME ISSUES, UH, REGARDING THE, THE, THE MASSING OF THE BUILDINGS. YOU ADDRESSED THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND, AND, AND THAT IS ALSO KEY IN TERMS OF HOW, HOW DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY SEE THAT CHARACTERISTIC, UH, IS ADDRESSED IN THOSE AREAS. AND HOW, HOW THEY FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS, UH, IS, IS, UH, IS THREATENING, UH, THE, THE CHARACTER OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I, I WANT YOU TO WALK US THROUGH, UH, WHAT WAS SAID THAT THAT SOMEHOW IF WE, IF WE TAKE THAT, IF WE'RE NOT ADOPTING THAT PORTION TODAY, UH, AND WE GO THROUGH THE U D C PROCESS, THAT, THAT BASICALLY, UH, IT'S, IT'S, THE U D C PROCESS DOES NOT ALLOW US TO, TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. WALK US THROUGH THAT, PLEASE. SURE. SO, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT AT ALL BECAUSE, UH, THE U D C PROCESS, UH, THE U D C PROCESS, UH, ANYONE CAN SUBMIT, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL OR A GROUP CAN SUBMIT. UH, THERE IS CERTAINLY A PROCESS, RIGHT? YOU SUBMIT, YOU, YOU, YOU TRY TO SAY WHY YOU WANT THAT PARTICULAR CODE CHANGED. UM, YOU TRY TO CONVINCE, UH, NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY AS WE GO TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND SUCH, BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS MADE UP OF A WIDE RANGE OF, UH, MEMBERS OF B O A OR THE ZONING COMMISSION COMMUNITY AT LARGE, THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER. AND WE START HAVING ALL THESE DISCUSSIONS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE, I, I WOULDN'T HAVE PUT IT UP THERE ON MY SLIDE. IT'S ACTUALLY MY RECOMMENDATION AS WELL IS TO SAY, THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS, AND I BELIEVE THEY'LL HAVE A, A, A, AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY. UH, WILL WE GET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF AGREEMENT ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? THERE'S NOT MANY CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WE GET A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT? UH, BUT I THINK THERE'S AMPLE OPPORTUNITY. AND THE OTHER ITEM, I, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT FOR THE MASSING ISSUE ABOUT CONNECTING MULTIPLE STRUCTURES OR KEEPING THEM SEPARATED, UM, THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. THAT'S A VERY, UH, VERY GOOD ONE FOR NCDS, RIGHT? NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICTS BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL IN THE CITY. UH, YOU'RE VERY AWARE OF THEM. YOU HAVE SEVERAL IN YOUR DISTRICT. UH, WE'VE UPDATED A FEW, UH, ACTUALLY A COUPLE IN, UH, DISTRICT ONE HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE THAT THEY WANT IT, BUT WE'VE HEARD FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHER AREAS THAT SAID, LIKE, LOOK, WE DON'T WANT ONE LARGE STRUCTURE. WE WOULD PREFER INDIVIDUAL STRUCTURES. SO MAYBE THE N C D ROUTE, WHICH IS A B D C CODE CHANGE PROCESS AS WELL. MAYBE THAT'S THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY. SO I, I THINK THERE'S AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF THESE ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSED. I KNOW THERE IS ACTUALLY, OR ELSE I WOULDN'T HAVE SAID, I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEY, THEY'RE ON THE LIST, UH, AND WE HAVE 'EM TRACKED AS WE'RE, WE'RE TRACKING POTENTIAL U D C ITEMS. I MEAN, IT'S, IT HAS TO BE TALKED ABOUT. AND I THINK BOTH SIDES AGREE WITH THAT, AND IT'S NOT AN EITHER OR. I MEAN, I THINK AT LEAST MY DISTRICT, THERE'S SOME GOOD EXAMPLES OF, OF THAT MASSING AND HOW IT DOES WORK. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. OKAY. SO I GUESS I'D LIKE, UH, MAYBE ROD SANCHEZ TO ALSO, UM, I, I GUESS I JUST WANT TO, I JUST WANT TO HAVE SOME ASSURANCES THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS PORTION WILL BE ADDRESSED AND, AND WILL BE, UH, TAKEN UP SIGNIFICANTLY THROUGH THE U D C PROCESS. UH, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT TO, I WANNA BE ON THE RECORD THAT WE ARE GONNA TACKLE THIS AS, AGAIN, THE, THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE, UH, OF THIS, OF THIS C C R IS, UH, REALLY, REALLY AT THE HEART OF THIS, THERE'S THREE ITEMS. AND, AND ONE OF THEM IS, IS THIS PARTICULAR ONE WITH, WITH THE POTEN POTENTIAL FOR THE U D C AMENDMENTS. I, I'D LIKE TO HEAR, AGAIN, SOME ASSURANCES SO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, NEIGHBORHOODS CAN FEEL THAT, THAT THERE'S STILL MORE PROCESS TO ALLOW THESE PROTECTIONS. ABSOLUTELY. I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, UH, GOES A LONG WAYS TO PROTECT EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. I MEAN, WE, WE ALL AGREE THAT WE, [01:20:01] WE, WE DON'T LIVE AT HEIGHT OF MULTI-FAMILY STRUCTURES, SO WE SHOULD GO FORWARD AND, AND START THE PROTECTION TODAY. THE SAME WITH THE FRONT STEP FACT, THE SAME WITH THE BUILDING ORIENTATION, UH, ON THE ISSUE OF A SINGLE STRUCTURE VERSUS MULTIPLE STRUCTURES ON A LOT, UH, THERE IS A LOT MORE DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO, TO HAPPEN. AND, AND WE WILL ABSOLUTELY CREATE AN AMENDMENT. UH, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT WILL CREATE AN AMENDMENT, UH, TO THE U D C THAT WE WILL CONSIDER DURING THE 2020 UPDATE PROCESS, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A DEEPER DIVE AND, AND HOPEFULLY STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AS TO WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE BALANCE FOR PROTECTING THEM, UH, WHILE STILL ALLOWING DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. SO I JUST SO YOU, SO YOU'LL CREATE AN AMENDMENT THAT, THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT AND, AND IT, SO IT, IT WILL BE PART OF THE PROCESS. YES. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL CREATE, CREATE AN AMENDMENT TO BRING IT FORWARD. OKAY. THANKS, ROD. UM, OKAY. UH, MIKE, THANKS. YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY, UH, SUCH AN IMPORTANT C C R, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE BEEN FACING THESE ISSUES, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TRYING TO TACKLE 'EM THROUGH THINGS LIKE LARGE AREA REZONINGS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AT THE HEART OF THIS IS, UH, AS YOU HEARD, PROTECTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEIR CHARACTER AND, AND, AND TRYING TO DETANGLE, UM, BASICALLY WHAT'S BECOME A BALL OF WIRES. UM, SO, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU MIKE. UM, THANK YOU, UM, CYNTHIA MARY, UM, UH, FOR, FOR COMING UP HERE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO MEET WITH, WITH MARY JOHNSON AND LISA SHELL THE OTHER NIGHT TO TALK ABOUT HOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANT TO WORK WITHIN THE PROCESS AND WE WANT TO FIND WAYS TO, TO ACTUALLY HELP PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE VERY DIVERSE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE CITY. SO I, I DO RESPECT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF OUR CITY THAT MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW. UM, SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND THE WORK, THE HARD WORK OF THE MANY NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AS WELL AS CITY STAFF, WHO TOGETHER EXTENSIVELY WORKED FOR MONTHS TO REVIEW OUR U D C TO COME UP WITH, UH, SOLUTIONS TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. UH, MY 2017 MULTIFAMILY C C R WAS BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM CONSTITUENTS AND HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE ISSUES NEIGHBORHOODS AND MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS FACE REGARDING NEW DEVELOPMENTS. THE WORK OF THE TASK FORCE WAS CRITICAL TO SECURING THE ITEMS OUTLINED IN THE C C R AND CREATED LANGUAGE THAT WILL BEGIN TO ADDRESS MAJOR CONCERNS. UH, BEFORE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MODIFICATION TO THE LANGUAGE, UH, THE RULES OF INTERPRETATION TO TABLE, UH, THREE 10 DASH ONE NOTE 11. AND, AND I WANT ROD TO ALSO KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW WE WORK WITH YOU ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. IT'S MORE OF A CLARIFICATION. UM, THE PROPOSED ADDITION, UH, IS THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE. THE HEIGHT LIMIT SHALL NOT APPLY, WHERE AN ABUTTING PROPERTY IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, BUT NOT USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES, SUCH AS A CHURCH, SCHOOL PARK GOLF COURSE, OR VACANT PROPERTY SHALL READ, EXCEPT THE HEIGHT LIMIT SHALL APPLY TO PROPERTIES ABUDDING, A VACANT PROPERTY RESULTING FROM A DEMOLITION WITHIN THREE YEARS OF THE DATE OF THE DEMOLITION. AND THAT IS REALLY JUST ADDRESSING A CONCERN THAT, UH, A LOT OF FOLKS HAD BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT, UH, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE WAS, WAS CREATING A POTENTIAL INCENTIVE FOR DEMOLITION. ROD, CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT HOW YOU DEVELOPED THAT LANGUAGE? SURE. SO THE CONCERN WAS, IS THAT, UH, WHAT INITIALLY STARTED IS IF THE ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, IF THERE'S A VACANT LOT, THAT THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING TO PROTECT. SO THEY INSERTED THE LANGUAGE THAT THERE'D BE AN EXEMPTION FROM THAT STANDPOINT. BUT AS YOU HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY, WHERE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, THERE'D BE SOME KIND OF AN INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO DEMOLISH A STRUCTURE, UH, TO, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT EXEMPTION. SO THE AMENDMENT PUTS IN A THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD, SO THAT IF SOMEONE GOES IN AND DEMOLISHES A STRUCTURE, THERE'D BE A WAITING PERIOD OF, OF THREE YEARS. UH, SO THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, I GUESS TAKE AWAY THAT INCENTIVE FOR SOMEONE TO KNOCK A HOUSE DOWN AND GO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AMENDMENT. RIGHT. AND SO, AND, AND THEN PART OF, PART OF, UH, PART OF THIS WAS ALSO CONSIDERING THE LANGUAGE THAT WE, THAT WE HEARD, UH, EARLIER, WHICH WAS TO SIMPLY REMOVE IT. AND I THINK WHAT WE HEARD BACK WAS THAT THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY DO, UH, UH, CHANGE ANYTHING OR ACTUALLY CREATE A, UM, A CLARIFYING LANGUAGE. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. UM, OKAY. WELL, THANKS, ROD. THE PROPOSED EDITION IS, UH, NECESSARY TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS AND WORK AGAINST PRO, PROVIDING AN INCENTIVE FOR DEMOLITION, AS ROD JUST SAID, FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IT REQUIRES NEW DEVELOPMENTS TO BE HELD TO A HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON A VACANT LOT IF DEMOLITION HAS TAKEN PLACE WITHIN THREE YEARS. ALONG WITH THESE PROPOSED CHANGES, I COMMIT TO FACILITATING A LARGER DISCUSSION REGARDING THE REQUEST TO ENSURE ALL RM DEVELOPMENTS [01:25:01] ARE CONFINED TO A SINGLE ENCLOSED STRUCTURE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS AND, AND, AND ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTIONS WITH MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE U D C 2020 AMENDMENT PROCESS. UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE IMPACT OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGES, AS WELL AS CONTINUING TO DISCUSS NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTIONS WITH MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE U D C 2020 AMENDMENT PROCESS. I MOVE TO PROVE THE ITEM WITH THE AFFIRMATION MODIFICATIONS. OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION. DID I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND FOR DISCUSSION? MM-HMM. . OKAY. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE WAS NO PREVIOUS MOTION ON THE FLOOR, SO THE COUNCIL MEMBER MADE A MOTION WITH, UH, CONDITIONS. OKAY. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. UH, THANK YOU. UM, SO, UM, I THINK, MIKE, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO THIS ITEM WENT TO, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 12TH? I BELIEVE SO, YES. AND, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE THIS IS AN ITEM OF, OF GREAT CONCERN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER, UM, LIKE MAYBE 20 PEOPLE, OR HOW MANY, UH, IT WAS, UH, 16. 16 PEOPLE. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF ROBUST DISCUSSION. SURE. VERY DIFFICULT TO COME TO A CONSENSUS, UM, ON SOME ITEMS. YES. UH, THAT WAS AT LEAST KIND OF THE IMPRESSION I GOT, UM, IN YOUR REPORT TO THE COMMITTEE, UM, THAT IT IS A, A CONCERN. UM, I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS AND PEOPLE'S HOMES, IT'S REALLY THEIR NUMBER ONE CONCERN. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE INVESTED SO MUCH MONEY IN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND HOUSING REHAB, AND DOING THESE LARGE AREA REZONES BECAUSE PEOPLE REALLY CARE ABOUT THEIR HOMES AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS FIRST AND FOREMOST. SO THIS IS, UM, I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S OF GREAT CONCERN TO EVERYONE. AND, AND SO THAT'S WHY I GET VERY CONCERNED WHEN I'M TOLD THAT THERE'S GONNA BE AMENDMENT ON THE DAIS MOMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. EVEN THOUGH THE COUNCILMAN SAID THAT HE HAD A C C R DATED IN 2017, UM, THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT THIS. WE HAD A P C P MEETING ON NOVEMBER 12TH, UM, AND SUDDENLY MOMENTS AGO WE RECEIVE A, SOME DOCUMENT HERE WITH PROPOSED LANGUAGE BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT HAS NOT BEEN VETTED AT ALL BY ANY OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. I MEAN, THIS IS THE FIRST I HEAR OF IT. AND I, I'M, I WANNA BE RESPECTFUL TO ALL OF, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME TO TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE. I RECEIVED NUMEROUS EMAILS OF, OF CONSTITUENTS SAYING THAT THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT IT AND WANTED TO MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS. AND I THINK THEY'RE FAIR AND LIKELY REASONABLE, BUT I DON'T LIKE HEARING ABOUT SOMETHING MOMENTS BEFORE I'M SUPPOSED TO VOTE ON IT, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT AS PEOPLE'S HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS. SO I WOULD MOVE THAT WE TAKE THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE TO HAVE A PROPER VETTING OF WHAT EXACTLY THIS LANGUAGE MEANS. UM, AND THEREFORE WE CAN VOTE WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFIDENCE, UM, IN THE NEXT MEETING, UM, AFTER IT GETS VETTED. SO, UM, DO WE KNOW WHEN THE NEXT P C P MEETING IS? UM, I WONDER IF SOMEBODY HAS THAT HANDY. 1, 1, 1 SECOND. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU'VE MADE A MOTION, UM, I WANNA MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. UH, OKAY. WE, WE WOULD NEED A SECOND TO PLACE THAT ON THE FLOOR. OKAY. OKAY. SO THERE'S NOW TWO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR. ONE IS THE PRIMARY MOTION AS MODIFIED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THEN A SECOND MOTION, UH, WHICH WOULD BE TAKEN UP FIRST, WHICH WOULD SEND THIS ITEM BACK TO COMMITTEE. AND ANDY, GO AHEAD. CLARIFY. YES, MAYOR, I WANTED TO, TO CLARIFY THAT YOU JUST DID IT THOUGH, WHICH IS I THINK WHAT THE, UH, THE SIMPLEST WAY TO TRY TO APPROACH THIS IS TO HAVE, UH, THE COUNCILWOMAN MOTION TO DELAY THIS ITEM TO A DATE SPECIFIC AFTER THE COMMITTEE CAN, CAN, UH, CONSIDER IT. AND THAT WOULD BE THE PRIMARY MOTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS, I THINK, A DATE ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR THAT. 'CAUSE WE HAD A BRIEFING YESTERDAY, SO WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A DATE SCHEDULED, I THINK IT'S FAIRLY SOON, UM, IN DECEMBER. CAN ANYBODY HAVE THAT, UM, DATE FOR ME? AND WE, WE'LL FIND OUT WHEN THAT IS AND HAVE THE PROPER BRIEFING. I THINK IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE AMENDMENT BY THE COMMITTEE. UH, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND AS THE CHAIR, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT I AT LEAST HAVE THE PROPER INFORMATION BEFORE I, I CAN, UM, PROPERLY VOTE ON AN ITEM. AND MY COLLEAGUES, TOO, HAVE NOT HEARD THIS, UH, ITEM EITHER. SO. OKAY. UM, COUNCILS MEMBER, UM, DO WE HAVE THAT DATE SO SHE COULD, UM, PHRASE THE, THE MOTION AND ACCEPT IT? YEAH, THERE, THERE IS A PLANNING COMMITTEE DEVELOPMENT MEETING ON MONDAY. THIS MONDAY COMING UP THIS MONDAY. GREAT. UM, [01:30:01] I'M SORRY, ANDY, GO AHEAD. NINE, SORRY TO INTERRUPT AGAIN. UH, BUT THE, THE MOTION TO DELAY SHOULD BE A MOTION ON A DATE IN WHICH THE FULL COUNCIL, UH, WOULD CONSIDER IT, AGAIN, RECOGNIZING THAT THE COMMITTEE WILL CONSIDER IT BEFORE. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS RIGHT. THERE SHOULD BE A MOTION TO DELAY IT UNTIL JANUARY FOR THE FULL COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IT AGAIN IN JANUARY. WELL, I THINK IF THERE'S A MEETING ON MONDAY, YEAH, DECEMBER 9TH, THEN WE CAN VOTE ON IT AS SOON AS DECEMBER 12TH. THE NEXT MEETING, UH, ASSUMING THAT WE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN LANGUAGE WORKED OUT. ROD SEEMS TO KNOW ABOUT THE ITEM AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER REFERENCED THAT ROD WAS FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT THE COMMITTEE CHAIR, NOR IS THE COMMITTEE FAMILIAR WITH THE ITEM. SO IF WE, IF I COULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT REQUEST THAT THE ITEM COME TO THE COMMITTEE THE FIRST AVAILABLE DATE, AND THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL AS SOON AS DECEMBER 12TH. THE, THE, THE ONLY, UH, IF I MAY, IF THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THAT COUNCIL ONE MAY BE THAT WE MAY HAVE POSTING REQUIREMENTS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COMMITTEE COMES OUT WITH, SO THAT THE COUN FULL COUNCIL CAN JUST CONSIDER IT DECEMBER 12TH. OKAY. WELL, SO THAT'D BE A VERY TIGHT WINDOW. WELL, LET ME CLARIFY. WE ARE STILL OUTSIDE OF THE TOMA REQUIREMENTS ON 72 HOURS. SO I'M PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE IF YOU DELAY IT TILL NEXT WEEK, UH, CONSIDERING A COMMITTEE HEARING ON ON MONDAY. I THINK WE'RE PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT. OKAY. IF THAT'S HOW YOU WANNA PHRASE IT, THAT, UM, YES. THE, THE ISSUE IS, MAYOR, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S CHANGES THAT COME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE ON MONDAY, THEN DO WE HAVE THE 72 HOUR? WELL, YEAH, UN UNDERSTOOD. AND WE CAN CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE. I THINK, UH, NOTE NOTED FOR THE COMMITTEE THAT IF THEY MAKE CHANGES AND OFFER IT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE ON THE DAIS, UM, BY THE COUNCIL AT THAT POINT, SO OH, RIGHT. THEY COULD BE. OKAY. SO, UM, SHOULD I REPHRASE OR DO YOU HAVE, SO, UH, UH, THE RE THE RECOMMENDATION COUNCILMAN IS TO HAVE, COUNCILWOMAN IS TO HAVE A MOTION TO DELAY CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM UNTIL THE DECEMBER 12TH MEETING OF THE FULL COUNCIL. SO I, UM, SO MOVED. SO JUST THAT IT COMES TO THE COMMITTEE FIRST. I THINK THIS IS WHERE I NEED TO GET THAT CLARIFICATION. I THINK, I THINK THOSE STATEMENTS ARE ON THE RECORD AND THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN. UM, SO IF YOU JUST, I, I, I TAKE YOUR MOTION AND COUNCIL MEMBER GRO, IF YOU AGREE TO SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR? OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE SAME OF MY CONCERNS IS, UH, AS WAS MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE C C R FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. PEOPLE HAVE PUT IN ALL OF THIS TIME, AND THEN A ZONING COMMISSION VOTED WITH THIS THING ON THE NOVEMBER 19TH. IS THAT CORRECT? AND WE DID NOT GET ANY NOTIFICATION OF THAT, BUT WE DID SEE THE LANGUAGE AMENDMENT LANGUAGE HERE THAT OUR STAFF HAD TO GET AND ASK FOR. AND I MEAN, IT WAS ALREADY THE DRAFT OF A SCRIPT OF, OF WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN HERE, BUT WE DIDN'T EVEN GET TO SEE IT ON THE SCREEN. SO, UM, THIS IS NOT THE WAY WE CREATE GOOD POLICY, ESPECIALLY, UM, HERE ON AA, SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN WORKED ON FOR TWO YEARS, AND THEN WE, WE DO THIS AND ABSOLUTELY, WE KNOW THAT THIS NEEDS TO, I THINK WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING THE FIRST TIME WAS WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE UDC. 'CAUSE WE KNEW THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE THESE PROTECTIONS UP FIRST, AND NOW WE'RE HAVING TO DELAY AGAIN BECAUSE OF THESE CHANGES HERE AT THE DAIS. UM, YES. ROD, YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THE, THE ZONING COMMISSION DID ACT, UH, TO PUT A, IF, IF THERE'S A VACANT PROPERTY THAT, THAT THERE'D BE, YOU KNOW, THIS EXEMPTION. SO THAT, THAT WAS KNOWN, AND THAT WAS, I BELIEVE MIKE BEEN MAKING THE ROUNDS. EVERYONE KNEW ABOUT THAT. UH, IT WAS THE CONCERN FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD CREATE AN INCENTIVE TO DEMOLISH. AND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE SUGGESTED, WE'LL THEN PUT A THREE, PUT A THREE YEAR WINDOW IN THERE THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS NEW. YEAH. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T EVEN, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS VETTING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT, THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, PUTTING THE THREE YEAR WINDOW THAT, THAT WOULD DO FOR HOMEOWNERS OR LANDOWNERS THAT ARE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE A STRUCTURE ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT MAY BE DILAPIDATED, THAT WANTS TO BE, THAT THEY WANNA TEAR DOWN. AND THEN WE'RE PUTTING ANOTHER THING ON HERE. SO ANYHOW, I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT WE NEED MORE VETTING, AND I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GOING FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER VERON. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. [01:35:01] THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, I WILL CONCUR, UH, WITH THE COUNCIL WOMAN'S REQUEST AT THIS TIME. UH, I'M A NEIGHBORHOOD GUY AND I THINK MOST OF US REALLY VALUE THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE WANT TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMITTEE TO HEAR THIS EXPLANATION ONE MORE TIME. AND AS THE COUNCILWOMAN JUST POINTED OUT, THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TRY AND LOOK FOR BEFORE WE PASS THE, THIS ORDINANCE. SO, UH, I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ'S, UH, MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, SAME HERE. I, I TOTALLY AGREE. AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT WE TRIED TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO, UM, POLICY UP HERE ON THIS STAGE. AND THAT, THAT'S, WE HAVE TO AVOID THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THERE'S A PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW IN GETTING ALL THE, UH, INFORMATION AND DATA TOGETHER. SO, UH, YEAH, UH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, I, I THINK YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD POINT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, CAUTION ABOUT THESE, UH, CHANGES UP HERE ON THE DIOCESE. SO, UH, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVINO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONCERN AND, UM, AGAIN, UH, IN TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A CLARIFICATION, BROUGHT THESE CONCERNS TO STAFF. UM, I, I THINK, UH, DELAYING IT A WEEK IS, IS, IS, IS FINE WITH ME AS WELL. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL ASK STAFF TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN BRIEF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS ADEQUATELY BEFORE WE GET TO THAT VOTE. AND I'LL JUST WITHDRAW MY MOTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO. COUNCIL MEMBER ROSA GARCIA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I JUST, UM, AGAIN, WANTED TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ. I DID WANNA GO ON THE RECORD AT SAYING THAT I WAS BRIEFED ON MONDAY, UM, BY MICHAEL SHANNON, BUT I WAS NOT TOLD CLEARLY, UH, OR MAYBE IT WAS MY MISUNDERSTANDING. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT WAS GONNA BE AN AMENDMENT, SO I LITERALLY JUST GOT THE TEXT OF THE AMENDMENT ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AGO. UM, SO I AM, UH, I, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE DELAY, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMITTEE NOW KNOWS, AND AS, AS A PERSON WHO WORKED ON A COMMITTEE BEFORE AND WHO WORKED TWO YEARS THROUGH A PROCESS AND HAD SOMETHING AMENDMENT AFTER TWO YEARS OF WORK, I THINK THAT IT'S OUR DUTY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY COMMITTEE MEMBER IS, IS AWARE AND INFORMED. AND SO I JUST, AGAIN, WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD SAYING IS I'M SUPPORTIVE OF COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ, AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN TRIVINIA FOR ACCEPTING THAT DELAY. UM, I FULLY SUPPORT, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERY COMMITTEE MEMBER UNDERSTANDS, AND I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN, UH, VIA GRANT'S POINT, THAT IF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN EMBEDDED, MAYBE ONTO THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, THE LANGUAGE OR THE AMENDMENT. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF A RED LINE VERSION, I KNOW THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DOES THIS VERY WELL, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, I THINK, UH, WITH THINGS LIKE THIS. BUT, UM, BUT THANK YOU, MIKE, BECAUSE YOU GUYS DID COME AND BRIEF ME. I JUST DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT WAS AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS GONNA BE MADE ON THE SPOT TODAY. SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD REFLECTING THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. SO I THINK I NEED CLARIFICATION NOW, NOW THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER REMOVE, UM, WITHDREW HIS ORIGINAL AMENDMENT, WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TODAY. UM, ONE, THAT'S ONE QUESTION AND NUMBER TWO, WHAT WILL WE BE DISCUSSING? WHAT WILL BE AGENDIZED AND WILL WE BE DISCUSSING AT PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE? WHAT WILL THE ITEM BE? UH, SO FIRST OF ALL, IF I CAN CLARIFY PROCEDURALLY, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, NOW THAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO HAS WITHDRAWN HIS MOTION, BUT, SO RIGHT NOW THE ONLY MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ'S MOTION. UH, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO CONSIDER THIS, THE ITEM TODAY ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THEY CAN STILL DO SO. UH, IF COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ EITHER WITHDRAWS THE MOTION OR THE MOTION, UH, FAILS TO DELAY IT TILL NEXT WEEK. OKAY. AND SO WHAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA ON DEVELOPMENT FOR PLANNING FOR PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT? WE WILL SPECIFICALLY TAKE UP THIS AMENDMENT OF THE, THE, THE, THE WINDOW OF TIME. IF, IF A DEMOLITION OCCURS, IS THERE APPROPRIATE, UH, TIME, UH, FOR DELAY OR, OR NOT EVEN DOING THAT, THAT, THAT SPECIFICALLY IS WHAT'S NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED FURTHER. SO THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY WILL BE DISCUSSED WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT OR JUST TO KEEP IT AS WITHOUT IT CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. COUNCIL MEMBER ELAS. THANKS. I, I'M [01:40:01] CONFUSED, ANDY, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT, ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ONE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, WHICH IS TO DELAY THE ITEM. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. ARE WE DELAYING THE ENTIRETY OF TODAY? YES. SO I'M GONNA EXPLAIN WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE ONE MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT IS TO DELAY THIS ITEM TO DECEMBER 12TH NEXT WEEK. IN BETWEEN THAT DATE AND TODAY, THERE IS A, A PLANNING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MEETING THAT WE'LL HEAR THIS ITEM. ALL THINGS ABOUT THIS ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL AMENDED LANGUAGE THAT WE HEARD TODAY. SOUNDS FAIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SAY I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE CLOSE TO WRAPPING, THIS UP, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT'S NOT TODAY. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT, SORRY, A C C R, THAT THIS IS A SPARKLY SWEATER. I'VE GOTTEN SOME TEXT ABOUT THAT AND IT . UM, I'VE GOTTEN, UM, UH, SORRY. UM, I SIGNED THE C C R ALONG WITH COUNCILWOMAN GERRAN MONTHS AFTER I CAME INTO OFFICE. SO HERE WE ARE IN OUR SECOND TERM. IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE IT COMING TO, TO FRUITION. I WANNA THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, WHO SERVED ON THIS TASK FORCE, UH, BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY, OUR ACTUAL COMMUNITY, AND OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WHO PARTICIPATED AND MADE THIS, UH, SUCH A GOOD PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE TODAY. WE NEED TO HEAR FROM ALL SIDES TO, TO DO THAT. PERSONALLY, I WANNA THANK JORGE DE LA GARZA FROM, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN WHO PARTICIPATED AND, UH, REALLY DID A, A GREAT JOB LEADING, UH, LEADING THE PERSPECTIVE OF OUR COMMUNITY ON THIS. UM, AND I ALSO WANNA THANK THE COUNCILMAN FOR SHEPHERDING THIS THROUGH AND, UH, CATCHING WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE AT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S AT THE LAST MOMENT. NONETHELESS, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE MOVE FORWARD WITH HAS THE FULL VETTING AND SUPPORT OF, OF THE COUNCIL. SO, UM, I'D AGREED TO, TO SECOND THE, THE MOTION FROM THE COUNCILMAN. UM, BUT, BUT I DO FEEL THAT, UH, THE MOMENT WE GET CONFUSED ON THE DIOCESE IS A BAD MOMENT. SO, UM, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT WILL GO BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR PROPER DISCUSSION, EVEN IF, EVEN IF IT IS ABOUT THE DETAILS AND THE INTERPRETATION, THAT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S HOW THE U D C LIVES IS BY ITS INTERPRETATION. UM, AND THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE FULLY UNDERSTOOD IN THE, AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEES ARE, ARE FOR. SO THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN FOR ALSO MAKING THAT POINT. AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FOR SHEPHERDING THIS THROUGH AND, AND YOUR PATIENCE OVER TWO YEARS FOR, FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WILL SUPPORT BOTH OF YOU. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. YES. I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION, UH, NOT RELATED, I BELIEVE, TO THE LAND, UH, THE VACANT LAND ABOUT, UH, A SECTION 11 OR A CHAPTER 11, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY ONE OF THE SPEAKERS AND THERE WERE SEVERAL, UH, CHANGES OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY FELT WERE NOT ADDRESSED IN THAT AREA. COULD YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT THAT DISCUSSION WAS? AND AND CAN THAT BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON MONDAY'S MEETING TO CLARIFY THAT? UH, THE SECOND QUESTION? YES. YES, WE CAN, UM, IF, IF YOU SO, UH, LIKE US TO, UH, BUT I'LL, I'LL JUST TACKLE THE NOTE 11 OR THE SECTION 11, RIGHT? IT'S REALLY A NOTE 11. SO WE HAVE A TABLE IN THE U D C THAT ADDRESSES MAXIMUM HEIGHTS OF STRUCTURES WITHIN ALL THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS. THERE'S A NOTE 11 THAT WE'RE, UM, ADDING IN HERE TO SAY, IF YOU ARE, UM, A MULTIFAMILY ZONED MF 33 OR RMM FOUR, OR ACTUALLY THE PROPOSAL IS ANYTHING CLOSE TO AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME, YOU'RE SUBJECT TO THE LOWER HEIGHT RESTRICTION THAT'S THE PROPOSED COACHING. SO WHEN WE SAY NOTE 11, IT'S, IT'S REGARDING THAT MAXIMUM HEIGHT TABLE WHERE THE LANGUAGE SITS. SO, UM, IT'S IN THE PROPOSED, BUT WE CAN WALK THROUGH THAT ON MONDAY AS WELL. YEAH, THERE WAS SOME SUGGESTIONS ON ALTERING THAT TABLE A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT SURE. MORE SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND, I THINK WAS, UH, I THINK, UH, WE'VE HEARD SOME, SOME COMMENTS, UH, FROM SOME PEOPLE ON WHERE THAT NOTE SHOULD BE AT A TABLE. SO CERTAINLY WE CAN WALK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE COMMITTEE TALKING ABOUT THE DETAILS. OKAY. UM, WE, WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT CODE REQUIREMENT IS IN THE CODE AS WELL AS EASY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS, AND THEN MY STAFF THAT'S REVIEWING PROJECTS, IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND IMPLEMENT. SO WE CAN WALK THROUGH THAT AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. AND, AND AS THIS GOES TO, UH, PLANNING, UH, THE NEXT TIME WE SEE THIS WILL BE HOPEFULLY A FULLY VETTED, UM, AMENDMENT. I I JUST WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS. I DO WANNA STEP BACK A MINUTE FROM PROCESS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. AND, AND I'LL, I'LL TELL MY COLLEAGUES THIS IS, AND FOR, UH, A FEW OF US THAT HAVE JOINED US, THIS IS A LOT LONGER THAN TWO YEARS. THIS IS MORE LIKE EIGHT YEARS. IN FACT, IT WAS, UH, OUR FIRST BUDGET WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT [01:45:01] A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, THAT IS NOW UNDER DEVELOPMENT AND WE ACTUALLY VOTING ON SOME OF THAT TODAY. UH, THIS ISSUE ACTUALLY CUTS TO THE, THE CORE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN URBAN DEVELOPMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY FOR OUR CITY. AND SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE LAUNCH AND ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE DECADE OF DOWNTOWN AND TODAY WHERE WE HAVE, UH, A PULLING A POLICY OF, OF PULLING DEVELOPMENT OUTWARD FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS. AND US, UH, DELIBERATELY TRYING TO PULL THAT DEVELOPMENT INWARD SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE DECADE OF DOWNTOWN AND TODAY THAT RUBBER BAND SNAPPED. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN, IN THE, UH, DIFFICULTY AND AFFORDABILITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT CONCERNS THAT ARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND TRYING TO SAVE, UH, THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE ALSO WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS GOAL THAT WE ESTABLISHED IN ESSAY TOMORROW AND INFILL. SO I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR TIER ONE NEIGHBORS, SPECIFICALLY CYNTHIA SPIELMAN. UM, SHE IS ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS OF OUR REDUCING BARRIERS COMMITTEE FOR THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE. UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE THE MOST DIFFICULT WORK WE DO, I THINK, IN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. WHERE DO WE ADD, UH, REGULATION AND STANDARDS? WHERE DO WE REDUCE THOSE BARRIERS SO THAT WE CAN PRODUCE HOMES THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE AND AFFORDABLE FOR ALL OF US? AND IN DOING SO, NOT GET IN OUR OWN WAY, AS WE'VE SEEN SOMETIMES, UH, A PENCHANT FOR GOVERNMENT TO DO, UM, THIS ISSUE OF HEIGHT RESTRICTION AND LIMITING DEVELOPMENT TO ONE OR TWO BUILDINGS VERSUS ALLOWING A PROPERTY OWNER TO DO WHAT THEY WISH IS GOING TO IMPACT, UH, THAT BALANCE. AND SO, UH, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NEIGHBORS LIKE CYNTHIA WHO ARE LIVING AND BREATHING THE IMPACTS ON THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, ALONG WITH THE PROFESSIONALS AND THE ENGINEERS AND DEVELOPERS WHO BUILD THE HOMES THERE, UH, WE HAVE TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE SIGHT BY GETTING TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AS A CITY, WHICH IS THAT WE HAVE TO DENSIFY SAN ANTONIO OR ALL OF US ARE GONNA BE PRICED OUT. SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION UP HERE. I THINK IT'S A HIGHLIGHT OF THE DIFFICULTY OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE FACING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO AND I DO APPRECIATE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, PARTICULARLY IN THE PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS STEP RIGHT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP AND WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS TO COMMUNITIES WHEN THEY DON'T TAKE IT OR THEY GET IT WRONG. SO, UM, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR A ROBUST DISCUSSION. I KNOW IT'S, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, UH, PROCESS CHALLENGE TODAY, BUT WE WILL BRING THIS BACK, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY AND SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, UH, ON OUR ALL OF OUR GOALS. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ TO DELAY TO NEXT WEEK DECEMBER 12TH, UH, AND STOPPING THERE, UH, AT PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEXT WEEK ON MONDAY. WE HAVE A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. [23. Resolution allocating the City's 895 votes for the City's Nominee, Roberto C. Treviño, to serve on the Bexar Appraisal District Board of Directors for a term of office to begin on January 1, 2020, and expire on December 31, 2021. [Leticia M. Vacek, City Clerk]] OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 23. ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING THE CITY'S 895 VOTES FOR THE CITY'S NOMINEE, ROBERTO C VINNO TO SERVE ON THE BEARER APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR A TERM OF OFFICE TO BEGIN ON JANUARY 1ST, 2020, AND TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST, 2021. OKAY, THIS ITEM WAS PULLED FOR RECUSAL PURPOSES, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 23. IF THERE'S NONE, WE'RE GONNA TABLE THE ITEM, FOLKS. OH, I MOVED THE ITEM FOR APPROVAL. OKAY. ITEM 23. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 23. NOTE THE TWO RECUSALS OR THE ONE RECUSAL, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES [24. Ordinance approving the San Antonio Tourism Public Improvement District Final 2020 Service and Assessment Plan, the Final 2020 Assessment Roll, and maintaining the Assessment Rate for 2020 at 1.25% of the gross hotel room revenue subject to local hotel tax derived from an individual room rental of qualified rooms. [Carlos Contreras, Assistant City Manager; Patricia Muzquiz Cantor, Director, Convention and Sports Facilities]] ITEM 24. ITEM 24 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE SAN ANTONIO TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FINAL 2020 SERVICE AND AN ASSESSMENT PLAN, THE FINAL 2020 ASSESSMENT ROLE AND MAINTAINING THE ASSESSMENT RATE FOR 2020 AT 1.25% OF THE GROSS HOTEL ROOM REVENUE, SUBJECT TO LOCAL HOTEL TAXED DERIVED FROM AN INDIVIDUAL ROOM RENTAL OF QUALIFIED ROOMS. OKAY, ON ITEM 24, WE DO HAVE, UH, SEVERAL CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WE'LL BEGIN WITH JEFF ARNT AND WE'LL FOLLOW, UH, MR. ARNT WITH HENRY FELDMAN. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING AND CONGRATULATIONS, ROBERTO, FOR COMING BACK TO THE BOARD. FANTASTIC. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS MORNING IN, IN SUPPORT OF THE TOURIST PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT DPI, I AM VERY PLEASED AND FRANKLY HUMBLED TO SERVE AS [01:50:01] THE CHAIR OF THE VISIT SAN ANTONIO BOARD OF DIRECTORS THIS YEAR. AND I'M HERE IN THAT CAPACITY TODAY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SAN ANTONIO HOTEL AND LODGING ASSOCIATION. VISIT. SAN ANTONIO WAS HIGHLY INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS OF THE CREATION OF THE T I D. AS A RESULT OF THAT PROCESS, I HAVE WITNESSED FIRSTHAND HOW THE T I D HAS ALREADY ENHANCED AND STRENGTHENED VISIT SAN ANTONIO'S MARKETING AND SALES EFFORTS TO PROACTIVELY PROMOTE OUR DESTINATION. FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE T I D LEISURE PROGRAMMING, WHICH OCCURRED IN MAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER T, ID SAW A 60 TO ONE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, $60 RETURN FOR EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED WITH REGARD TO VISITATION TRACKING VIA DEVICE ID. IN ADDITION, BASED ON INDUSTRY DATA FROM THE S T R REPORT, SAN ANTONIO HAS SEEN SOLID GROWTH AND ROOM DEMAND, WHICH HELPED TO AFFECT AN INCREASE IN OCCUPANCY THROUGHOUT THOSE CRUCIAL SUMMER MONTHS. THE TIDBIT HAS TRULY AIDED OUR EFFORT IN INCREASING THE VISIBILITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS A TOP TRAVEL DESTINATION. I'M CONFIDENT THAT P TID WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THEREFORE, I WANT TO RESPECTIVELY ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AS WE ARE BRINGING THE WORLD TO SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ARN. HENRY FELDMAN, FOLLOWED BY KEVIN LATON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD MORNING, UH, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. UH, MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO SPEAK THIS MORNING. IN SUPPORT OF THE TOURISM, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, IT IS MY HONOR TO SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF THE TID, UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS. IN ADDITION, I OWN A PROPERTY, UM, IN THE MED CENTER, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, BUSINESS, UH, DISTRICT. AS CHAIR OF THE NEW TID CORPORATION, IT WAS IMPERATIVE TO FOCUS ON TRANSPARENCY, RESULTS, AND ACCOUNTABILITY. I INTENTIONALLY KEPT SEVERAL GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR THE BOARD AT THE FOREFRONT DURING OUR FIRST YEAR OF T I D OPERATIONS. NUMBER ONE, TO CREATE A CULTURE OF INQUIRY AND TO BE ACCOUNTABLE WITH SPENDING AND TO SET METRICS FOR SALES AND MARKETING. I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR INITIAL RESULTS. 2.5 MILLION WAS SPENT FOR MARKETING EFFORTS IN MAY THROUGH AUGUST, DOUBLING OUR MARKETING SPEND AS COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, RESULTING IN 302 MILLION IMPRESSIONS. THESE DOLLARS WERE USED IN FOUR CHANNELS, DIGITAL TV, STREAMING, RADIO, AND OUT OF HOME. ONE EXAMPLE OF THE IMPACT WAS EXPANDING THE MARKET COVERAGE FOR TV VIDEO FROM 14 MARKETS TO 30. WE WERE VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE ANTICIPATED SOFT GROUP BUSINESS IN 2019 AND 2020, AND THIS HELPED INFLUENCE THE DECISION ON INVESTING IN MORE LEISURE BUSINESS FOR THE COMING YEAR. IN SALES, THERE WERE MANY PROGRAMS DEVELOPED, INDIVIDUAL HOTEL INCENTIVE PROGRAM, GROUP BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, ADDITIONAL OF A NATIONAL SALES MANAGER AND IN-MARKET CUSTOMER EVENTS. ALTHOUGH MANY OF THESE INITIATIVES ARE STILL IN THEIR INFANCY, WE ARE EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HOTEL INCENTIVE PROGRAM HAS GENERATED A TOTAL OF 58 APPLICATIONS DRIVING AN ADDITIONAL 24,500 GROUP ROOM NIGHTS 4.7 MILLION IN REVENUE TO OUR DESTINATION, SPECIFICALLY IN THE NEED YEARS OF 2019 AND 2021. THE TPI IS A GAME CHANGER FOR OUR INDUSTRY AND FOR THE SAN ANTO, FOR SAN ANTONIO. THEREFORE, IN CLOSING TODAY, I WANT TO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. FELDMAN. KEVIN LATTON. OH, GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU KINDLY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS MORNING. AS SUPPORT OF THE TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, I'M HERE IN SEVERAL CAPACITIES THIS MORNING. UH, ONE AS A PROUD MEMBER BOARD MEMBER OF THE SAN ANTONIO PUBLIC TOURISM, UH, DISTRICT. SECONDLY, I ALSO SERVE AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SAN ANTONIO HOTEL LODGING ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND I AM ALSO THE GENERAL MANAGER AT THE WYNDHAM RIVER WALK DOWNTOWN ZONE, ONE OF THE T I N I'M ACCOMPANIED TODAY BY LISA ACHE, [01:55:01] PRESIDENT AND C E O OF OUR ASSOCIATION HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. AT THE ONSET OF THE NEW T I CORPORATION, ACCOUNTABILITY WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME. THE SAN ANTONIO HOTEL LODGING ASSOCIATION REPRESENTS HOTELS, ALL HOTELS. THEREFORE, IN ORDER FOR THE TPI TO BE SUCCESSFUL, UM, IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT FOR ALL ELIGIBLE HOTELS TO BE INVOLVED AND INFORMED THROUGH THE PROCESS. IN ADDITION, IT IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE BE ACCOUNTABLE TO OUR PARTICIPATING HOTELS WITHIN A TEA BED. THEREFORE, WE LAUNCHED A QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER AND HOSTED TWO TOWN HALL MEETINGS, BOTH ZONE ONE AND IN ZONE TWO. THESE TOWN HALL MEETINGS WERE DESIGNED TO BE COMMUNICATIONS CHANNELS FOR OUR T I D PARTICIPANTS, PROVIDE INSIGHT ON THE SALES AND MARKETING INITIATIVES, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, OBTAIN PARTICIPANT FEEDBACK AS A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE T I D, I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE VALUE AND THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS BEING GENERATED AS A RESULT OF THIS COMMUNITY EFFORT. IN CLOSING TODAY, I WANT TO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. LATTON. OKAY. UM, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS FOR REFUSAL PURPOSES, SO I MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 24. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BRIEFED ME ON TUESDAY, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. I'M A MARKETING PROFESSOR, SO I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF INCREASING, UM, MARKETING, UH, FOR, FOR INITIATIVES. DEFINITELY. AND CONGRATULATE YOU SPECIFICALLY ON THE TARGETED SUCCESS THAT YOU'VE HAD. SO, UM, SO I THINK THAT WE ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. UM, IN THE SPIRIT OF MR. FELD FELDMAN'S SPIRIT OF INQUIRY, UM, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE UNDERREPRESENTED, UNDERREPRESENTED, UNDERREPRESENTED TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. AND I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMPOSITION OF YOUR BOARD AND IDENTIFY AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT WHERE DIVERSITY CAN BE CONSIDERED. I'M SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT A LACK OF FEMALE BOARD MEMBERS ON, UM, YOUR BOARD. AND SO, UM, THIS CAME UP YESTERDAY AS WELL, SO I'M NOT JUST SPEAKING ON YOU. I COULD HAVE MENTIONED IT ON TUESDAY, BUT IT CAME UP YESTERDAY, UM, WITH SOMETHING ELSE THAT I NOTICED, AND IT WAS WITH OUR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT. AND TO MR. MCC CAREY'S CREDIT, TWO HOURS LATER, HE PUT TWO FEMALES ON A PANEL. AND SO, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THAT IN YOUR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP AND IN YOUR BOARD APPOINTMENTS FOR SOME CONSIDERATION TODAY. I'M GLAD TO HAVE STRONG WOMEN BE AT THE LEAD LIKE CASSANDRA MATAY, WHO I'M A FAN OF, AND LISA VERCHE. BUT I DO, UH, WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME ADDITIONAL PARTICIPATION, PARTICIPATION FROM FEMALES ON YOUR BOARD. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS FOR THE PUBLIC THAT MAY BE WATCHING, UM, YOU KNOW, EARLIER COMMENTS NOTWITHSTANDING, UH, IF SOMEONE COULD COME UP, UH, FROM THE BOARD FOR THE TPI ID. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS, CASSANDRA. THAT'S GREAT. UM, FOR THE, FOR THE PUBLIC AND, AND FOR MY OWN REASSURANCE, THE TPI IS A VOLUNTARY MEMBERSHIP ASSOCIATION. IS THAT CORRECT? NO, SIR. SO WHEN, NO, WHEN THE, THE PROCESS OF CREATING A TPI LAST YEAR, OF WHICH, UH, THEN COUNSEL APPROVED LAST DECEMBER, ACTUALLY IT WAS THIS WEEK, LAST YEAR, UM, WE HAD PETITIONED THE HOTEL COMMUNITY AND, AND BY STATE LAW, IF OVER, UM, 60% VOTE AND SIGN THE PETITION, WE BRING IT FORTH TO YOU TO CREATE THAT TPI. ONCE THAT IS CREATED, THEN IT IS MANDATORY IF YOU ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND HAVE A HUNDRED ROOMS OR GREATER THAT YOU WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE TOURISM AND DISTRICT. I SEE. SO IT TOOK AN INITIAL VOTE WITH AND, AND HOTELS VOLUNTEERING TO BE PART OF IT TO BEGIN WITH. YES, SIR. AND THEN WHEN YOU RECEIVED ENOUGH, THEN IT, IT COULD BE PASSED AND MADE MANDATORY FOR THE OTHERS? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN, AND THE TPI D TERM, JUST FOR, UH, RECALL IS, IS AN EIGHT YEAR TERM, AND IT, WE JUST FINISHED OUR FIRST YEAR. OKAY. UH, NOW THERE IS NO CITY TAX REVENUE THAT IS USED, UH, BY THE [02:00:01] T I D FOR CONDUCTING THEIR MARKETING. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. AND ACTUALLY A BENEFIT, AND IT WAS AN INDIRECT BENEFIT OF THE TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, THE CITY ACTUALLY REALLY RECEIVES ADDITIONAL HOT REVENUE BECAUSE OF THE TPI, BECAUSE WHEN YOU PAY YOUR HOTEL RATE, YOU PAY YOUR T I D FEE, THEN THAT, UH, IS TAXED FOR THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. SO ENTITIES SUCH AS ARTS AND CULTURE, HISTORY AND PRESERVATION ARE SEEING A BUMP SPECIFICALLY DUE TO THE TPI. NOW, I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS BEING DISCUSSED, AT THE INITIAL BEGINNING OF, OF THE TPIT, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECTED, UH, VISITORS COMING TO SAN ANTONIO. UH, AND WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT GET THIS YEAR, WHAT WE MIGHT GET NEXT YEAR. MM-HMM. . UH, SO HOW HAS IT PROVEN SO FAR, UH, TO HELP IN THAT AREA? SO WE STARTED COLLECTIONS JANUARY 1ST, 2019. UH, WE DID NOT SEE THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS DUE TO COLLECTIONS AND THINGS UNTIL APRIL. SO WE STARTED ACTIVATING THOSE FUNDS IN MAY. WE DEFINITELY SAW AN IMPACT IN THIS SUMMER. UM, AND WE'RE SEEING SOME REALLY POSITIVE RESULTS AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING. WE HAVE BEEN ON TARGET AS FAR AS THE COLLECTIONS, AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING IT FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. I WILL TELL YOU, IT WAS EDUCATING OUR T P I D PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE CONSUMERS WERE AWARE OF THIS CHANGE, BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT OF GROUPS OR LEISURE TRAVELERS BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THE T ID. WHEN YOU LOOK AT SAN ANTONIO AS A WHOLE, WE ARE A VALUE DESTINATION. SO OVERALL, OUR HOTEL RATES, OUR RESTAURANT RATES, ET CETERA, ARE ALL VERY COMPETITIVE WHEN WE ARE COMPETING AGAINST OTHER DESTINATIONS. BUT WE ARE SEEING RESULTS, WE'RE SEEING MORE GROUPS. UM, AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO YOU ALL FOR A FEW YEARS THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED 2019, AS WELL AS 2020 BEING SOFT YEARS, AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT GAP CLOSE AND VERY PROUD THAT, UH, 2019 IS GOING TO BE A, A GOOD YEAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU, THE COMMITTEE AND THE WORK YOU'RE DOING, AND HOPE THAT, UH, YOU ALWAYS MAINTAIN YOUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. THANK YOU. OH, CASSANDRA, DON'T LEAVE QUITE SO FAST. START. YOU KNOW, I, I HAD, AS YOU REMEMBER, I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, ABOUT RAISING OUR MM-HMM. SURE. UM, ROOM RATES, UH, TO INCORPORATE THIS. AND, UM, UM, THERE WERE, THERE WERE SOME NUMBERS THAT WERE QUOTED HERE, THE 3.2 MILLION VIEWS. I THINK THE NUMBER WAS, IS THAT IN ADDITION, OR WHAT WAS IT THAT WAS IN ADDITION. OKAY. THAT 302 MILLION MORE IMPRESSIONS DUE TO WHAT WE COULD HAVE DONE BY DOUBLING OUR MARKETING SPEND THIS LAST SUMMER. UM, SO THAT MEANS PEOPLE ALL AROUND OUR TARGET MARKETS AND AROUND THE COUNTRY AND EVEN INTERNATIONALLY SAW THE MESSAGE OF SAN ANTONIO. OKAY. AND THEN THERE, YOU SAID YOU'RE SEEING THE NUMBERS INCREASE FROM THIS ADDITIONAL MARKETING, BUT WHAT ARE THOSE NUMBERS? I, I, I WOULD REALLY, WELL, SO ONE OF THEM, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT THE METRICS THAT YOU'RE, I'M, I'M SURE YOU'VE DEVELOPED SOME METRICS THAT SHOW THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE INCREASE AND THE INCREASES OF THE NUMBERS THAT YOU PROJECT AND ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY, SO WE HAVE A, A TPI QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER. UM, I, WE, WE HANDED THEM OUT MOST OF THE COUNCIL OFFICES, I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD DEEP DIVE OF WHAT THOSE METRICS ARE. AS I MENTIONED, WE JUST STARTED ACTIVATING THOSE DOLLARS IN MAY, SO IT'S STILL BEEN A VERY SHORT TIME. UM, WHAT WE SAW FROM THIS SUMMER IS THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF 302 MORE MILLION MORE IMPRESSIONS DUE TO OUR MARKETING. I CAN TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE OF THE INDIVIDUAL HOTEL INCENTIVE PROGRAM, WE'VE HAD THIR NEARLY 30,000 NEW ROOM NIGHTS THAT WERE GENERATED BECAUSE OF THE TPI. WE'VE ALSO HIRED A NEW NATIONAL SALES MANAGER TO HELP IN OUR EFFORTS OF BRINGING EVENTS AND MEETINGS TO SAN ANTONIO. BUT I'M HAPPY TO, UM, SEND YOU THAT REPORT. UM, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. JUST SEND ME THE, UH, NEWSLETTER. YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ABSOLUTELY. UM, SO THE PARTICIPANTS AND, AND COUNCILMAN COURAGE WALKED THROUGH. OKAY. IS THIS VOLUNTARY OR, OR MANDATORY? UM, HOW DO YOU GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM AS TO WHETHER THEY'RE HAPPY OR THEY'RE NOT HAPPY? UM, SO I WILL TELL YOU, UM, WE WORK AND WE HAVE ALWAYS WORKED WITH HOTELIERS. UM, THAT'S WHAT WE DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE PUTTING [02:05:01] RFPS TOGETHER OF BIDDING ON CONVENTIONS. BUT, BUT I BELIEVE, UM, UH, MAYBE KEVIN MENTIONED WE HAD TWO TOWN HALL MEETINGS SPECIFICALLY. WE INVITED EVERY T TPI MEMBER TO JUST DO THAT, TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK. AND WE ALSO SEND THE QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER IN ENCOURAGING THEM IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, TO REACH OUT TO EITHER STAFF OR TO ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN VERY PROACTIVE, UH, WITH THE MEMBERSHIP, MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND HOW THE MONEY'S BEING USED, UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT THEIR FEEDBACK. BUT, UH, RECENTLY THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS PROVIDED THAT FORMAT. OKAY. AND ARE ALL THE PARTICIPANTS HAPPY AT THIS POINT? WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HOTELS THAT WANNA KNOW SPECIFICALLY, AM I GOING TO START SEEING ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR MY PROPERTY AND WHAT WE SAY IS WITH OUR MARKETING EFFORTS ON JUST THE DIGITAL ASPECT, WE HAD A 60 TO ONE RETURN, AND WE CAN TRACK THAT. AND SO WE ARE BRINGING MORE PEOPLE TO SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE OF THE T P I D. AND SO ONCE THEY SELECT SAN ANTONIO, THEN THE HOTELS WILL COMPETE FOR THAT BUSINESS. BUT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN? HI, LISA WITH THE HOTEL ASSOCIATION, I'LL TELL YOU, I ALSO SERVE AS AN EX OFFICIO, AND I'M THE LIAISON FOR ANYONE WHO MAY BE, NOT, BE, NOT, IS NOT AT THE TABLE. AND THEY, I WOULD BE THE VEHICLE FOR THEM TO ISSUE ANY COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS. AND THE, WHAT I HEAR IS THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED. THEY ARE VERY, UM, INTERESTED IN UTILIZING THE MONEY FROM THE INDIVIDUAL HOTEL INCENTIVE PROGRAM, WE CALL IT I HIP. UM, THAT'S A VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL AND WE ARE DOING MORE AND MORE MARKETING TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO USE IT BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO CLOSE DEALS AND BRING PEOPLE TO THE PROPERTIES. SO FROM THE HOTEL PERSPECTIVE, I, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S STILL VERY EARLY IN ITS INFANCY AND PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY THAT IT BRINGS. OKAY. GREAT. WELL, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, CASSANDRA, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE GREAT NEWS THAT WE'RE SEEING A BUMP IN THE H O T. UM, IS THERE AN ESTIMATE? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH THAT IS? I DON'T HAVE. OKAY. DO YOU IMAGINE IT'S IN THE WHAT RANGE, MORE OR LESS? IT'S IN THE MILLIONS OF COUPLE OF MILLION I WOULD THINK. MM-HMM. . OKAY. WONDERFUL. BECAUSE OF THE $1, 1.25%. UM, SO, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR BILL, IT IS, UH, ONE POINT YOU, YOU WILL PAY YOUR HOTEL RATE AND IT'S 1.25% PER NIGHT THAT YOU STAY. AND THEN WHEN YOU CALCULATE THAT, THEN THE HOTEL, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX APPLIES TO THAT TOTAL. SO BASICALLY WHATEVER H O T WE GET RIGHT NOW, I CAN MULTIPLY THAT BY 1.25%. I THAT ASSUMPTION, ASSUMING IT'S FLAT, ASSUMING IT'S FLAT, THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. SO WHAT'S OUR H O T RIGHT NOW? REVENUE, IT'S ABOUT, DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT 75? 70 MILLION? 75 MILLION TO IN TOTAL. OKAY. MM-HMM. , UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW. SO 1.25% OF THAT, IT'S, THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN $2 MILLION, WOULDN'T IT? RIGHT AROUND, I THINK. MM-HMM. . OKAY. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SURE. AND, UM, I SEE OUR, THE BOARD CHAIRMAN IS HERE. I'M ALSO GONNA ECHO THE COMMENTS OF, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, GARCIA ROCHA OR ROCHA GARCIA. I'M SORRY. UH, I TOLD HER, SHE'S OPENED MY EYES TO, TO THIS, BUT, UM, YEAH, WE LOOKED THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND SAW THAT WE HAVE, UH, ONE VOTING, UH, MEMBER WHO IS, UH, WHO IS A WOMAN, UH, ON THERE. AND, UH, WE HAVE TWO GREAT WOMEN WHO ARE EX-OFFICIO. BUT, UM, YEAH, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO TO, TO MAYBE MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVERSE. UH, THAT'S WELL NOTED. WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. UM, AND AS SOON AS THE TERMS ARE UP, WE WILL DEFINITELY, UM, MAKE THOSE CHANGES. THANK YOU. OH, WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S GREAT TO HEAR MUSIC TO OUR EARS. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS AND THE COMMENTS, UH, ESPECIALLY MY COLLEAGUES ON THE, THE FEMALE REPRESENTATION NEEDED. UM, SO JUST, UH, JUST A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION FOR MY, AND THANK YOU TO PATRICIA, TO CARLOS, TO ALL OF YOU ON TPIT FOR GOING AND DOING THE ROUNDS AND MEETING WITH OUR COUNCIL COLLEAGUES. UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT FOR, UH, MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL. ON DECEMBER 3RD, ERIC DID SEND OUT THE PRELIMINARY FISCAL YEAR, 2019 YEAR END REPORT. AND FOR THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY OCCUPANCY TAX, THE 7% CITY PORTION OF THE HOT TAX GENERATED 72.4 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 2019, WHICH [02:10:01] IS $156,000 HIGHER THAN PROJECTED. UM, SO THAT WAS ONE THING. AND IN OUR BACKUPS, WE ALSO KNOW THAT, UM, 65 INDIVIDUAL INCENTIVE HOTEL PROGRAM APPROVED OCCU, UM, APPLICATIONS REPRESENTING AN ESTIMATED 38,990 GROUP ROOM NIGHTS AND 7.7 MILLION IN ROOM REVENUE FOR N WAIT FOR IT. COUNCILMAN PERRY, RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF 17 TO ONE. AND SO THIS IS SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE ARE GETTING WITH THE T I D AND FOR MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU ALL CAN, UH, UH, SHARE THIS OR YOU CAN CONFIRM OR NOT THAT WITH THE CHANGES IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE JUST EARLIER THIS YEAR, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY EVEN MORE RESTRICTED TO ENSURE THAT T I D DOLLARS ARE FOR MARKETING. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. SO, UM, IN THIS LAST, BECAUSE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS, UH, WHEN WE CREATED OUR TPI, WE WERE THE FOURTH IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. NOW ALL COMMUNITIES AROUND THE STATE, SMALLER, UM, LARGER, UH, ARE NOW IN THE MIDST OF CREATING. AUSTIN IS HAVING THEIR DISCUSSION IN MANY OF THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES. UH, SO YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. THE STATE LEGISLATURE, LEGI LEGISLATURE RESTRICTED THE USE, UH, THAT CAN BE FOR SALES AND MARKETING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO WE, WE ARE, WE ARE LIVING UP AS TO MS. MR. FELDMAN, WHAT YOU SAID, AND KEVIN SAID IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY HERE AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO THANK YOU, UH, VERY MUCH FOR COMING FORWARD, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT THIS IS GOING TO PROMOTE AND HAVE HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WARRIOR GAMES COMING UP IN THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. OKAY, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 24. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. UM, WE DO HAVE AN EXEC SESSION TODAY, BUT, UH, BEFORE THAT, UH, ROD, DO WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER'S REPORT? UH, NO CITY MANAGER'S REPORT TODAY. OKAY. BEFORE WE GO INTO THE EXEC SESSION, THERE WAS SOMETHING I, I DID WANT TO BRING UP. UH, IT WAS RELATED TO ITEM 20, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS. UM, WE HEARD A CITIZEN COME UP, AND WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, THAT THERE ARE, UH, THERE ARE BUSINESSES OUT THERE, DEVELOPERS, UH, IN PARTICULAR, UM, THAT ARE USING THE CODE COMPLIANCE PROCESS TO PREY ON, UH, VULNERABLE HOMEOWNERS. UM, I'VE HEARD THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES BEFORE, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO TROUBLESHOOT THAT. AND I, AND I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL MAYBE IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, AS WELL AS OUR CITY MANAGEMENT TO, UM, ASSEMBLE WHATEVER RESOURCES ARE NECESSARY TO DIG INTO THIS AND MAKE SURE WE END IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE. WE CERTAINLY WILL, WILL DO THAT. UH, I'LL, I'LL GET WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND, UH, OKAY. TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THAT ISSUE. OKAY? YEAH. AND, AND, AND IF WE COULD GET A UNDERSTANDING OF HOW OTHER CITIES PERHAPS ARE TACKLING THIS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE NOT ALONE IN THIS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ROD. OKAY. THE [Executive Session] TIME IS NOW 1 11 20 7:00 AM ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 5TH, 2019, AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL NOW MEET AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, IS CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY, AND TO DELIBERATE OR DISCUSS THE ITEMS POSTED ON THE DECEMBER 4TH, 2019 B SESSION AGENDA, BUT NOT REACHED OR COMPLETED AT THAT TIME. OKAY, EVERYONE, UM, WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL ZONING SESSION. CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED FROM ITS EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NO ACTION, NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN. TIME IS 2:10 PM UH, I'D LIKE FOR OUR AV STAFF IF THEY COULD RUN THE TRANSLATION VIDEO AGAIN SINCE WE'VE GOT, UH, QUIET IN THE CHAMBERS NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH OUR ZONING AGENDA NOW. UH, COUNCIL IS SEATED. [02:15:01] UM, SO [Zoning Consent Agenda] AT THIS POINT, UH, I WILL READ THE ITEMS, UH, FROM OUR ZONING AGENDA THAT ARE LISTED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM WHICH THEY WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA SO FAR. I HAVE LISTED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEM 36 Z ONE Z, TWO P ONE, AND Z SIX, Z SEVEN, Z 12 Z 18, Z P SIX, AND Z 19, Z 23 AND Z 25. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA? IF THERE ARE NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, I THINK, TOO. OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION AND A, A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR THE ONES THAT I, I CALLED. WE DO HAVE ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT. I'LL CALL HIM NOW. JACK FINGER, MAYOR BERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY CASTLE FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M FINGER. A FEW ITEMS I WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA. QUITE A FEW, BUT I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE AT LEAST SOME OF YOU ARE CONSIDERING PULLING THEM FORWARD TO SOME DELIBERATION HERE. MR. TREVINO, DISTRICT ONE, I SEE YOU PULLED, UH, THE VERY FIRST ONE, ALCOHOL VARIANCE, THE IDEA OF PLACING, ALLOWING ALCOHOL SALES WITHIN 300 FEET OF A NEARBY SCHOOL. YEAH. WHERE WERE KID KIDS PLAY ON THE PLAYGROUND. I WISH YOU WOULD SAY NO TO THIS ONE, SIR. THAT'S ONE NEAR RIGHT NEAR WEST AVENUE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THAT'S NUMBER 36. A FEW ITEMS DEALING WITH COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT ON THIS AGENDA. THE BIG ONE, THE CONTROVERSIAL ONE IS Z 12 AND, AND, UH, MS. UH, SULLIVAN, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT THERE. YES. VERY CONTROVERSIAL ONE HERE. IT, UM, IT'S ABOUT A HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS, BUT BESIDES THE FACT THAT, UH, OF THE PERSONNEL THAT THE, THE CLIENTELE THAT MAY BE THERE, THE PEOPLE ARE REALLY UP. ONE THING THAT THE STAFF HAS MENTIONED IS THE FACT THAT IT IS, IT'S COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO THE NEIGHBOR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AREA THERE. WELL, WHAT WAS, WHAT REALLY STUCK OUT IS THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A ZONING HEARING, MAYBE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE COME BY AND SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT. YOU'RE LUCKY TO HAVE THAT HERE. YOU HAVE, EXCUSE ME HERE, YOU HAD 36 PEOPLE SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS. THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF CONTROVERSY ON THIS ONE. YOU ONLY HAD A FRACTION OF THAT. SPEAK FOR IT. THERE. YOU MAY WANT TO SAY NO TO THIS ONE HERE. YES. THAT COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT ALSO EXISTED IN, UM, UM, MS. UH, GONZALEZ'S DISTRICT Z 18. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT ONE THERE. AND ALSO WELL, AND, UH, AND MR. MR. K'S DISTRICT YES, THAT'S RIGHT. COMMERCIAL INCOME AND Z 23. THE ONE, THE ONE THAT, THAT ONE. THE FACT THAT, THAT IT'LL, KENNEDY TENDS TO DESTROY THE, THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA THERE. SIR, WE WISH YOU WOULD SAY NO TO THAT ONE AS WELL. THE, UH, ALSO SOMETHING SIMILAR PROBLEM WITH INTENSITY, JUST INTENSE AREAS HERE WHERE THERE'S JUST NO BUFFERS FOR, FOR THIS STUFF. THE, ONCE AGAIN, MS, UH, MS. SULLIVAN IN YOUR DISTRICT, THE Z SEVEN HAS THAT PROBLEM. UM, AND, UH, MS. HABER'S, DISTRICT Z SIX HAS THAT PROBLEM. AND, UH, AND OF COURSE, UH, WAIT A MINUTE. THANK YOU MR. FINGER. THANK YOU. OKAY. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT ZONING AGENDA. THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR P SIX AND Z 1936, Z ONE, Z TWO P ONE, AND Z SIX Z SEVEN, Z SEVEN Z 12 Z 18, Z 23 AND Z 25. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO [Items P-6 & Z-19] THE ITEMS LISTED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AND I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES COURTESY, WE WILL TAKE ITEMS P SIX AND Z 19 FIRST. UM, ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES HAS TO GET TO THE COURTHOUSE. UM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, CALL UP P SIX AND Z 19. [02:20:19] SORRY, MAYOR, JUST TRYING TO GET THERE. SORRY. P SIX AND Z 19 AMENDING THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER FROM C THREE TO C THREE N A S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION TO ALLOW A CABINET SHOP TO MF 33. LOCATED AT TA HOOKAH BOULEVARD AND MARKHAM DRIVE. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. 26 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR AND TWO OPPOSED CA CABLE. WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER KEO HVAR DID. THANK YOU MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE P SIX AND Z 19. AS THE AREA RESIDENTS AND THE DEVELOPER HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT WHEREBY THE APPLICANT HAS REDUCED THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS BY FOUR. OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, AS, UH, AS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER KEO HDA, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. [Z-23. ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700195 CD ERZD (Council District 9): Ordinance amending the Zoning District Boundary from “R-6 MLOD-1 MLR-2 ERZD” Residential Single Family Camp Bullis Military Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Edwards Recharge Zone District to “R-6 CD MLOD-1 MLR-2 ERZD” Residential Single Family Camp Bullis Military Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Edwards Recharge Zone District with Conditional Use to allow for an assisted living facility with up to sixteen (16) residents on Lot 1 and the West 45 Feet of Lot 2, NCB 14843, located at 2104 Pipestone Drive. Staff recommends Denial, with an Alternate Recommendation. Zoning Commission recommends Approval, with Conditions.] OKAY. UH, AND I'LL ALSO ASK COURTESY AGAIN FOR TAKING ANOTHER ITEM OUT OF ORDER. WE'LL, WE WILL HAVE, UH, ITEM Z 23 AND DISTRICT NINE READ NOW. OKAY. Z 23 FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY WITH UP TO 16 RESIDENTS LOCATED AT 2104 PIPESTONE DRIVE. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION. ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. THERE SHALL BE NO EXTERIOR DISPLAY OF OR SIGN WITH AN EXCEPTION THAT A NAME PLATE NOT EXCEEDING THREE SQUARE FEET IN AREA MAY BE PERMITTED WHEN ATTACHED TO THE FRONT OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE. BUSINESS HOURS OPERATIONS SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED BEFORE 7:00 AM OR AFTER 6:00 PM 22 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE COURTESY. UH, WE HAVE, UM, UH, A VERY IMPORTANT FACILITY IN OUR DISTRICT. UH, I'VE VISITED THAT FACILITY. THEY ARE PROVIDING VERY VALUABLE AND IN MY OPINION, WONDERFUL CARE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THAT FACILITY. UH, I THINK THAT, UH, THE STAFF HAS ERRED IN ITS RECOMMENDATION ON DENIAL. I THINK THE, UM, THE ZONING COMMISSION HAD A BETTER PERSPECTIVE ON THIS, UH, AND THEY MADE THE TWO CONDITIONS THAT WERE JUST CITED. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THIS, UH, ZONING CASE WITH THE CONDITIONS AS CITED. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM Z 23. PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. UH, MOTION MADE, UH, FOR THE RECORD WITH CONDITIONS AS READ BY COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. ALRIGHT, WE'LL NOW TAKE [36. ALCOHOL VARIANCE # AV2019011 (Council District 1): Ordinance waiving the application requirements of City Code 4-6 and granting a variance to Muhammad Ramzan, for a Convenience Store and Gas Station by authorizing the sale of alcoholic beverages on Lot 18, NCB 11684, located at 3819 West Avenue for off-premise consumption within three-hundred (300) feet of West Avenue Elementary School, a public education institution. (Continued from November 7, 2019.)] THE ITEMS IN ORDER OF INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING NOW WITH ITEM 36. ITEM 36 IS AN ORDINANCE WAIVING THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS OF CITY CODE FOUR DASH SIX AND GRANTING A VARIANCE TO MOHAMMED RAMON FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION BY AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON LOT 18 NCV 116 84, LOCATED AT 38 19 WEST AVENUE FOR OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION WITHIN 300 FEET OF WEST AVENUE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OF PUBLIC EDUCATION INSTITUTION. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVINO. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, SUNNY'S CONVENIENCE STORE, UH, REQUESTED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A CONTINUANCE AT THE LAST ZONING HEARING IN ORDER TO MEET AND DISCUSS WITH THE OPPOSING SCHOOL DISTRICT. UH, FOLLOWING THESE DISCUSSIONS, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STANDS BY THEIR POSITION THAT SUPPORTING THE CELL OF ALCOHOL WITHIN 60 FEET OF, OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON STUDENTS AND FAMILIES THAT WILL SUPPORT NORTHEAST I S D SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THIS CASE. AND WOULD LIKE TO MOTION FOR DENIAL ON THIS REQUEST. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DENIAL OF ITEM 36. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, ITEM [Z-1. ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700187 (Council District 1): Ordinance amending the Zoning District Boundary from "C-3NA HS RIO-4 NCD-1 AHOD" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Historic Significant River Improvement Overlay South Presa Street/South Saint Mary's Streets Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District, "RM-4 NCD-1 AHOD” Residential Mixed South Presa Street/South Saint Mary's Streets Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District and “IDZ RIO-4 NCD-1 AHOD” Infill Development Zone River Improvement Overlay South Presa Street/South Saint Mary's Streets Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in "C-2 NA" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales District and "MF-25" Multi Family District to "IDZ-3 HL RIO-4 NCD-1 AHOD" High Intensity Infill Development Zone Historic Landmark River Improvement Overlay South Presa Street/South Saint Mary's Streets Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in “C-2” Commercial District, uses permitted for multi-family with up to 39 dwelling units, and a Hotel and "IDZ-3 NCD-1 AHOD" High Intensity Infill Development Zone South Presa Street/South Saint Mary's Streets Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in “C-2” Commercial District, uses permitted for multi-family with up to 39 dwelling units, and a Hotel (all overlays remain the same) on Lot 9, the west 42.8 feet of the south 22 feet of Lot 10 , the north 125 feet of Lot 10 and the east 46.2 feet of the south 22 feet of Lot 10, NCB 2979, located at 141 Jacobs, 143 Jacobs, 1714 South Saint Mary’s Street and 1722 South Saint Mary’s Street. Staff and Zoning Commission recommend Approval.] Z ONE Z ONE FROM C THREE NA, RMM FOUR AND I [02:25:01] D Z WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO NA AND MF 25 TO I D Z THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO, LOCATED AT 1 4 1 JACOBS 1 4 3 JACOBS AND 1714 SOUTH ST. MARY STREET AND 1722 SOUTH ST. MARY STREET. STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 38 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR FOR OPPOSED LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO JANUARY 16TH. OKAY, WE'RE NOW GETTING INTO THE ITEMS THAT DO HAVE, UH, SEVERAL CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. UH, THE NEXT SERIES OF ITEMS DUE. UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND FOLKS, WE ASK THAT ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING PLAN AMENDMENTS AND ZONING CASES BE LIMITED TO LAND USE AND ZONING ISSUES. DECISIONS IN THESE MATTERS ARE BASED EXCLUSIVELY ON LAND USE AND ZONING PRINCIPLES, SUCH AS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. EACH CASE IS UNIQUE AND SHOULD BE VIEWED IN LIGHT OF ITS INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES. WITH THAT, I WILL START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT ON Z ONE WITH CHERISE ROAR. ALLEG GREENY, DR. ALLEG GREENY WILL BE FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE DISETTE. THANK YOU. AND WE KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOW, UH, REQUESTED CONTINUANCE, BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK FOR CLARIFICATION. UM, I'M CHERISE ROAR ALLEG GREENY. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE VI LACA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON ST. MARY'S AND JACOB STREET LIES WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES. UM, I SERVED ON THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE LAST YEAR, UM, WHERE WE RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR, UH, INCREASED HOUSING IN THE URBAN CORE. BUT I WANT TO NOTE SPECIFICALLY CONTRARY TO WHAT STAFF SAID, WE, WE ACTUALLY WITHDREW OUR SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT AND WE DID SEND A LETTER TO THAT EFFECT, UM, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT TURNED OUT TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE WERE INITIALLY PRESENTED WITH. UM, THE PROPOSAL FOR A HOTEL USE IS IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO THE NEED FOR URBAN WORKFORCE HOUSING. IT'S ALSO IN DIRECT CONFLICTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD USE. IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, A LONG-TERM COMMUNITY. HAVING A HOTEL WITHIN THAT DISTRICT IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE TO US. WE DO SUPPORT INCREASED DENSITY ALONG THE CORRIDORS, UH, BUT INCLUDING A HOTEL WOULD DEFEAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING HOUSING FOR RESIDENTS IN THE URBAN CORE. FURTHERMORE, THE TRANSIENT NATURE OF HOTEL USE WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY OF LONG-TERM RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THESE VERY NARROW ADJACENT STREETS. WELL, WE SUPPORT THE INCREASED DENSITY AS OUTLINED IN THE SA TOMORROW PLAN, WHICH I THINK YOU'LL BE HEARING ABOUT OR YOU ALREADY HEARD ABOUT TODAY. UM, THE PROPOSED DENSITY RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS IS DOUBLE THE HIGHEST DENSITY CALLED FOR IN THE SA TOMORROW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT PLAN CALLS FOR MF 40 OR 40 UNITS PER ACRE. THE CURRENT PROPOSAL BY THESE DEVELOPERS IS 80 UNITS PER ACRE. THAT'S A HUGE INCREASE OVER WHAT WOULD WE HAD ACCEPTED, UH, IN THE SA TOMORROW PLAN. SO I WANNA CLARIFY AGAIN, THE LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS WITHDRAWN ITS SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSAL. AS ITS STANDS, WE OPPOSE A ZONING CHANGE THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE USE OF HOTEL. UH, HOWEVER WE WILL SPEAK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES TO SEE IF WE CAN COME TO ANOTHER AGREEMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DR. EGRIN. CATHERINE DOSETTE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CATHERINE MCCAULEY DOUCETTE. MY HUSBAND AND I RESIDE AT ONE 20 JACOBS STREET. UH, WE AGREE WITH EVERYTHING CHERISE SAID. UM, ALSO JUST TO PRESENT A FEW OTHER ITEMS. UM, TO LET YOU KNOW, JACOB STREET IS A SMALL 19 FOOT WIDE STREET WITH ONLY NINE HOUSES ON IT. THE APPLICANT PLANS TO PUT INGRESS AND EGRESS ONTO OUR LITTLE STREET WITH A DENSITY THE STREET SIMPLY CANNOT HANDLE. UH, AS CHERRI SAID, THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR 40 UNITS ON A ONE HALF ACRE, WHICH IS DOUBLE THE HIGHEST DENSITY CALLED FOR IN THE SA TOMORROW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S TOO AGGRESSIVE. WE ALREADY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH CARS SPEEDING DOWN JACOB STREET TO AVOID THE TRAIN, WHICH IS A CONCERN FOR THE CHILDREN WHO WALKED DOWN JACOB STREET TO BRACKENRIDGE HIGH SCHOOL. THERE HAS RECENTLY EVEN BEEN A CRASH AT THE VERY INTERSECTION WHERE THE APPLICANT PLANS TO DEVELOP INCREASING DENSITY. THIS AGGRESSIVELY WILL ONLY EXACERBATE AN ALREADY DANGEROUS, DANGEROUS SITUATION AND DEFEATS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO VISION ZERO. ADDITIONALLY, WITH THE PROPOSED I D Z DESIGNATION, THE PROPOSED DESIGN WILL ONLY HAVE 21 PARKING SPOTS FOR UP TO 40 UNITS. FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, THIS SIMPLY WON'T WORK PEOPLE IN SAN ANTONIO DRIVE, ALTHOUGH THESE UNITS, IF USED AS RESIDENTS, THIS PLAN TO BE LESS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE OF THEIR SMALL SIZE, THEY WILL NOT BE CHEAP. AND PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD TO LIVE THERE WILL LIKELY HAVE AT LEAST ONE VEHICLE THAT LEAVES ONLY 19 OR THAT LEAVES 19 CARS WITHOUT A SPACE TO PARK. TO LET YOU KNOW, JACOBS IS A NO PARKING STREET, AND WE INTEND TO [02:30:01] KEEP IT THAT WAY. SO AS THE PROPOSAL STANDS NOW, THERE ARE NOT MANY OPTIONS FOR POTENTIAL RESIDENTS OF THIS PROJECT. LASTLY, THIS IS OUR HOME. WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO BE HERE. OF THE NINE HOUSES ON JACOB STREET, FOUR OF THEM HAVE BEEN OCCUPIED BY THE SAME FAMILIES SINCE THE 1960S. THAT'S NEARLY 50% OF OUR STREET BEING THERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE LONGEVITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR HOME. IF YOU ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO PROCEED WITH THIS AGGRESSIVE HIGH DENSITY, LOW PARKING AND HOTEL, IT WILL DETERIORATE THE VERY NATURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE SO LOVE. WE WANT TO SEE THESE ABANDONED BUILDINGS BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE. WE WANT TO PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT, BUT AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY, WE CANNOT, UM, SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AS IT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. DE SET. COUNCIL MEMBER VINNO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S BEEN SOME, SOME CHANGES AND CHANGES IN SUPPORT. SO I DID ASK THE, UH, APPLICANT TO CONSIDER A CONTINUANCE TO JANUARY 16TH. SO I MOTION TO SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, ABOUT THIS PROJECT. AND, UH, SO THEREFORE I MOTION TO CONTINUE TO JANUARY 16TH. YES, SIR. AND FOR THE RECORD, WE DID RECEIVE THEIR LETTER IN OPPOSITION, SO THAT WAS STAFF ERROR ON OUR PART. ROGER THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM Z ONE TO JANUARY 16. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES ITEM [Z-2. ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700193 S (Council District 1): Ordinance amending the Zoning District Boundary from "C-3NA NCD-5 AHOD" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Beacon Hill Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-3NA S NCD-5 AHOD" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Beacon Hill Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District with Specific Use Authorization for a Construction Contractor Facility on Lot 1 and Lot 2, Block 19, NCB 6418, located at 738 West Hildebrand Avenue. Staff and Zoning Commission recommend Approval, with Conditions.] Z TWO Z TWO FROM C THREE NA TO C THREE NA SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY LOCATED AT 7 38 WEST HILDEBRAND AVENUE. STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH A CONDITION. ANY STORAGE OR MATERIALS SHALL BE ENCLOSED IN A WALLED OR ROOF STRUCTURE. 34. NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED. BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. WE HAVE ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM Z TWO. RALPH HERNANDEZ. HELLO. UM, MY NAME IS RALPH FERNANDEZ. I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. I ACTUALLY SIGNED IN THINKING THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO. SO I AM NOT HERE REALLY TO SPEAK, BUT JUST TO REPRESENT IF ANYTHING, ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING. SO, EXCUSE ME. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. HERNANDEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO. THANK YOU MAYOR. AND THANK YOU MR. HERNANDEZ FOR BEING HERE. UH, WE WILL BE MOTIONING Z MOTIONING TO APPROVE WITH PROPOSED CONDITIONS FOR Z TWO. OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM Z TWO WITH CONDITIONS AS READ. MOTION CARRIES ITEMS P ONE AND [Items P-1 & Z-6] Z SIX, P ONE AND Z SIX AMENDING THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FROM R SIX TO NC, LOCATED AT 25 51 NORTH INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL STAFF ZONING COMMISSION COMMEND DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION. 22 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE IS IN SUPPORT AND THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED CONTINUANCE TO JANUARY 16TH. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE SEVERAL CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS P ONE AND Z SIX. I'LL CALL THEM AN ORDER. I'LL CALL THE FIRST NAME AND I'LL CALL THE NAME AFTER THE PERSON, UH, IF THEY CAN BE READY TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM. LORENZO ORTIZ. MR. ORTIZ, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW BATTERS. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S LORENZO ORTIZ. I ACTUALLY RESIDE AT, UH, OR OWN THE PROPERTY AT 25 47, UH, IH 35 NORTH. UH, I'M THE NEIGHBOR TO THE PROPERTY AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S ASKING FOR, UH, NC WHEN I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY LAST YEAR, UM, I PURCHASED IT TO MAKE IT MY HOMESTEAD AND I'M CURRENTLY ACTUALLY, UH, UH, UH, RENOVATING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY SO I CAN MOVE MY FAMILY IN THE THE HOME. UM, BY THAT BEING SAID, BY MAKING MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE COMMERCIAL, IT, IT DOES A COUPLE OF, IT CHANGES THE DYNAMICS OF THE HOUSE THAT I'M BUYING FOR MY FAMILY. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE WERE GIVEN TO HIM BY THE ZONING COMMISSION, BUT TO MAKE IT STRICTLY COMMERCIAL THE WAY HE WANTS FOR JUST MAKING A REAL ESTATE OFFICE, I DON'T THINK HE NEEDS NC. YOU KNOW, THE R SIX CD SHOULD FIT HIS NEEDS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MR. ORTIZ. MATTHEW BATTERS. [02:35:02] MR. BATTERS, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED FOR BY FERNANDO LOZANO. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HERE REPRESENTING FERNANDO LOZANO AND WE ARE THE APPLICANTS AND WE'RE THE ONES MOVING FOR A CONTINUANCE. OKAY. UM, IS MR. LOZANO HERE? YES. OKAY. ARE YOU SEATING YOUR TIME TO MR. BATTERS? OKAY. YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES, MR. BATTERS. THANK YOU. AND I THINK SOME OF THE APP, THE FOLKS SIGNED IN AFTER MR. LOZANO ARE ALSO INTENDING TO C THEIR TIME TO ME. OKAY. YOU CAN HAVE A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE C THEIR TIME TO YOU. WHO ELSE IS GONNA DO THAT? SEATED RIGHT NEXT TO MR. LOZANO. AND YOUR NAME, SIR? JOSE VALENCIA. JOSE VALENCIA. OKAY. GOTCHA. YOU HAVE, UH, NINE MINUTES. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, SOMETHING THAT WAS INCORRECTLY STATED IS THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE INDICATION IN SUPPORT. WE HAVE LETTERS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT IN FROM 14 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, OWNERS IN THE AREA AFFECTED IN FAVOR. AND THAT'S PART OF WHY WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE 16TH. AS RECENTLY AS THIS MORNING, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO'S NOT WITHIN 200 FEET, BUT WE HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, INDICATED A CONCERN ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD CHANGE PARKING. WE WANT TO DO AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE TO VISIT WITH THAT NEARBY NEIGHBOR AS WELL AS PROVIDE A WRITTEN PLAN FOR THE PARKING TO THE COUNCILWOMAN. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS ON THIS PROPERTY, DEPENDING ON WHETHER THE SPACES ARE ANGLED, HOW MUCH OF THE PROPERTY IS PAVED FRONT OR BACK. AND WE NEED SOME TIME TO GET THAT IN WRITING AND SUBMITTED BEFORE YOU ALL. BUT TO RESPOND TO A FEW OTHER, UH, POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATION OF CONDITIONAL USE. THE REASON WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROCURE SO MUCH SUPPORT FROM THE 14 DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE SENT IN LETTERS IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN HIT HARD WITH THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. AND I COMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR LOWERING THE RATE AS THE, AS YOU HAVE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE VALUES KEEP SKYROCKETING. PART OF THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTED BY MY CLIENT WHO BOUGHT A BLIGHTED PROPERTY, INVESTED MORE THAN ANYONE WOULD'VE SAID SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN RESTORING IT TO ITS PROPER CONDITION. AND OF COURSE, FOLLOWING THE BOOK THE WHOLE TIME, EVERY TIME YOU GET A PERMIT, YOU PUT ON THAT PERMIT HOW MUCH YOU'RE INTENDING TO SPEND ON THE PROJECT. WELL, THE BEAR APPRAISAL DISTRICT PULLS THOSE AND FACTORS THOSE INTO THEIR APPRAISAL. SO IN INCREASING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AROUND IT GET COMPARED TO THAT PROPERTY AND THEIR TAXES GO UP. IF THE PROPERTY IS R SIX WITH CONDITIONAL USE, THAT WILL CONTINUE. IT'S STILL A COMPARABLE FOR TAX PURPOSES. IF IT'S NC THE LOWEST LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL USE POSSIBLE, IT DOES NOT GET COMPARED TO THE NEARBY HOMEOWNERS FOR TAX PURPOSES. AND SO THEY, THEY NEED THAT OUT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DO HERE. AND AGAIN, THE TYPE OF REZONING WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THE LOWEST LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY. WE'RE NOT SEEKING TO PUT ANYTHING UP, WE'RE NOT SEEKING TO TEAR ANYTHING DOWN. WE'RE SIMPLY SEEKING A CHANGE IN ZONING THAT REFLECTS A CHANGE IN USE OF THE PROPERTY. AND WE WOULD HOPEFULLY, UM, BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER ON JANUARY 16TH IF YOU ALL ADOPT THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS. THANK YOU, MR. BATERS. YOUR, THAT'S ALL OF YOUR TIME? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE, UH, ANNALISE MADDOX. JUST HEARING BEFORE, NOT STEVE. OKAY. STEVE VERSTEEG. MR. VERSTEEG, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY ROSE HILL. HELLO, UH, MY NAME IS STEVE VERSTEEG. I LIVE AT 1 0 5 RENO STREET. UM, I, I MAY BE THE PERSON MR. BATTER JUST REFERRED TO IS CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING. UM, EDGAR STREET, THE SIDE STREET THERE ON THE CORNER THERE, UM, IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET. AND, UM, UH, HE HAS, UM, FREQUENTLY SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT, UM, PEOPLE AT HIS OFFICE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. AND SO IT, IT'S, IT'S A DANGER FOR PEOPLE TURNING OFF THE, UH, ACCESS ROAD TO, UH, BECAUSE ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET WITH CARS ON BOTH SIDES, YOU TWO CARS CAN'T PASS. AND, UH, BECAUSE IT'S SO TIGHT THERE, SOME OF THEM ARE, APPEAR TO BE ILLEGALLY PARKED TOO CLOSE TO THE STOP SIGN AND IT, IT, IT JUST ISN'T A SAFE SITUATION ON THAT STREET. UM, THE, I BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING, UH, RECOMMENDATION IS MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE HE MUST SUBMIT A SITE PLAN THAT WILL SHOW WHAT HIS PARKING PROPOSAL IS. IF HE GETS THE NC I DON'T BELIEVE HE, UH, HE HAS TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING THE ZONING. UM, I THINK THE ZONING SHOULDN'T BE CHANGED. UM, AND, UH, SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF IT THAT HE SPEAKS ABOUT ARE, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH QUICKTRIP TO MAKE A MAJOR, UH, CHANGE TO SEVEN PARCELS ACROSS THE STREET ON EDGAR. ALSO TO CHANGE R SIX TO C TWO. UM, UH, MR. BATTER'S ALSO SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THIS AT THE ZONING MEETING ON TUESDAY, WHICH, UM, [02:40:02] I, I DON'T APPRECIATE, UH, THAT THAT IS THE PROPER CONCERN THAT HE, UH, REPORTS TO BE SHOWING FOR PEOPLE'S TAXES WHEN HE'S SUPPORTING SOMETHING THAT, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS ALL AROUND THAT AREA SPOKE UP AGAINST AT THE ZONING MEETING. UM, SO, UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE ME ALSO. THERE ARE, UH, UM, I'M TOLD BY SOMEONE, THERE'S AS MANY AS, AS SEVEN PEOPLE OUT THE VERY CLOSE, BUT OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET THAT ARE AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL. SO, UM, I GUESS IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE CONTINUED, BUT I, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. VERTI ROSE HILL, FOLLOWED BY MILES DONNELLY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ROSE HILL, P OF GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE. UM, GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE HAS A PROCESS IN WHICH WE FOLLOWED, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IT ALL ALONG SINCE DEVELOPMENT CAME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS TRANSPARENCY AND THAT EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD OF WHAT'S GOING ON. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, UM, NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORS TO COME TO THE MEETINGS, UH, SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. UM, THE PARKING, UH, SOMEBODY HAD, HE, I GUESS THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT ZONING. THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION AT ZONING FROM THE RESIDENCE. UH, I THINK THEY MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER CASE, BUT, UH, THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED. UM, SO CLEARLY ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS WAS REGARDING THE PARKING. UM, AND IT WAS DISCUSSED IN PLANNING, AND IT WAS ALSO DISCUSSED AT ZONING THAT THEY DID HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT PARKING THERE. THE SECOND THING THAT THE, I THINK THE COMMUNITY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION IS THAT THOSE CARS ARE NOT GONNA BE PARKED THERE EVERY DAY. THEY COME IN, I GUESS, FOR TRAINING, AND THEY COME IN TO DO, UH, THEY'RE DOING DEMONSTRATIONS ON, UM, CABINETS OR DIFFERENT ITEMS. THEY'RE GOING TO THE DIFFERENT HOUSES AT DIFFERENT TIMES. SO PEOPLE ARE COMING, GOING. AND I ALSO WANTED TO SPECIFY THAT ON THAT STREET, UH, THAT WAS MENTIONED, ALL THE CARS AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW DO NOT HAVE DRIVEWAYS. THEY'RE PARKING ALL ON THE STREET FROM CARSON ALL THE WAY TO AGE 35. IT'S BEEN THAT, THAT WE FOR, FOR A LONG TIME. SO IT'S, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE, WE HAVE THAT CONSISTENCY THERE. AND, UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, UH, HAS 10 HAS PUT IN A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT HOUSE. THAT HOUSE HOUSE WAS OWNED BY SOMEBODY FROM CALIFORNIA THAT, THAT REALLY DID NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ABOUT FIXING UP THAT DILAPIDATED HOUSE. IT WAS TERRIBLE. RAT INFESTATION, DRUGS, PROSTITUTION, ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING. AND IT'S ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM WALTER STREET RIGHT WHERE OUR MILITARY COME OUT BAD TO HAVE IT ON THAT CORNER. AND THIS, UH, APPLICANT CAME IN, UH, AND HAS PUT IN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY REHABILITATED THE ENTIRE HOUSE. UH, NO NEW IMPROVEMENTS RESTORED THE WINDOWS, THE HOUSE TOO BEAUTIFULLY. AND, UH, WE WANT PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE THERE PERMANENTLY. WE DON'T WANT THE FLIPPERS COMING IN. WE WANT TO HAVE SOME CONSISTENCY THERE AND TO HAVE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS SHOWED US, THAT NOT ONLY DID WE TELL THE DEVELOPERS, NOT DON'T COME TO JUST THE BOARD. WE WANT YOU TO KNOCK AT ALL THE DOORS. WE WANT THE PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN, IN INSTANCES. AND THEN I THINK THAT'S, IF YOU SEE TODAY BY HIM GETTING ALL THOSE, UH, SIGNATURES THAT HE DID MAKE THAT COMMUNICATION, UM, WITH THE NEIGHBORS. AND SO IN, IN, IN THAT INSTANCE, THE GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE AND THE COMMUNITY VOTED IN FAVOR. AND WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THAT. AND ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION REAL QUICKLY THAT 1943 IS A HOUSE THAT HAD THE SA IT SAID SIX BLOCKS ON THE SAME INTERSECTION THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, A MONTH AGO. IT WAS IN A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, ASSOCI IN, IN A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING WITH A LOT MORE HOUSES AND IT PASSED THE SAME ZONING INSTANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. HILL. MILES, DONNELLY, YOU'RE SEATING YOUR TIME MR. DONNELLY. OKAY. I THINK HE WAS INTENDING TO YIELD HIS TIME TO ME ALSO. YEAH. YOU, YOU, YOU HAD THREE FOLKS YIELD THEIR TIME TO YOU ALREADY. MR. UM, BATERS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM P ONE AND Z SIX. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN. UH, YES, MAYOR. THE MOTION IS TO HAVE THIS CASE CONTINUE TO JANUARY 16TH. THAT'S CORRECT. SECOND. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE ITEMS P ONE AND Z SIX TO JANUARY 16TH PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES [Z-7. ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700220 CD (Council District 2): Ordinance amending the Zoning District Boundary from "R-4 EP-1 MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Facility Parking/Traffic Control Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-4 CD EP-1 MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Facility Parking/Traffic Control Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for two (2) residential dwelling units on Lot 18 and the east 9 feet of Lot 17, Block 4, NCB 1422, located at 419 Belmont. Staff recommends Denial. Zoning Commission recommends Approval.] ITEM Z SEVEN, ITEM Z SEVEN. FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT FOUR 19 BELMONT. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. 39. NOTICES MAILED SIX IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED. COUNCILMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN? UH, YES. MAYOR, I MOTION TO HAVE [02:45:01] THIS CASE CONTINUED TO JANUARY 16TH. UM, THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR THIS MOTION IS BECAUSE JEFFERSON HEIGHTS HAS A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE CONTACTED. SECOND. OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS E SEVEN TO JANUARY 16TH, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES ITEM [Z-12. ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700255 CD (Council District 2): Ordinance amending the Zoning District Boundary from "AE-3 HS EP-1 MLOD-3 MLR-2" Arts and Entertainment Historic Landmark Parking/Traffic Control Overlay Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District to "C-2 CD HS EP-1 MLOD-3 MLR-2" Commercial Historic Landmark Parking/Traffic Control Overlay Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District with Conditional Use for a Human Services Campus on Lot 7, NCB 10241, located at 3310 East Commerce Street. Staff and Zoning Commission recommend Denial.] Z 12. ITEM Z 12 FROM A E THREE TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR HUMAN SERVICE CAMPUS LOCATED AT 33 10 EAST COMMERCE STREET. STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND DENIAL. 32 NOTICES MAILED TWO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED COLISEUM, WILLOW PARK AND DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE IN SUPPORT. OKAY, WE HAVE MANY CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM Z 12. UH, AND AS WAS THE CASE WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM, I WILL CALL THE FIRST NAME AND ORDER. I'LL CALL THE NEXT PERSON. UH, IF THEY CAN PLEASE GET READY TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM. WE CAN MOVE, MOVE FORWARD EFFICIENTLY. WE'LL START WITH RENEE WATSON. MS. WATSON WILL BE FOLLOWED BY PAMELA DANIELS. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. RENEE WATSON, RESIDENT AT 2 22 MAR MIKE AVENUE, WHICH IS IN WALKING DISTANCE OF SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH AND IN THIS IMPACTED AREA. I AM HERE TO SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR DENIAL OF THIS, UH, ZONING CHANGE BASED ON, UH, LAND USE AND URBAN PLANNING AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO REDEVELOP THE EAST SIDE. THIS PROJECT, UH, DOES NOT FIT THE CHARACTER. UH, ACCORDING TO THE, UH, COLD URBAN DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING ON ECOMMERCE AND IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THE WEATHER CHURCH SITS, UH, FOR MANY YEARS IT WAS A BEACON, UH, 1975. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 1964. UH, WHEN THE CITY, UH, BROUGHT IN THE CARVER LIBRARY, IT USED TO BE THE RITZ MOTEL AND WE HAD BLIGHT AND ALL KIND OF PROBLEMS. WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THOSE TYPES OF PROBLEMS WITH A FACILITY SIMILAR TO SERVICING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT FOR THE COMMUNITY. WHEN THE AT AND T CENTER WAS BUILT, THERE WAS A SPECIAL USE FOR ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT ZONING, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT IN THIS AREA. THAT'S WHAT THIS FACILITY IS ZONED FOR. IT NEEDS HELP WITH ARTS AND ENTER IN ENTERTAINMENT. IT HAS A BOWLING ALLEY. YES, IT HAS BASKETBALL COURTS, YES, BUT IT'S NOT FOR THIS TYPE OF USE FOR IMMIGRANT DETENTION CENTER FOR THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICER RELOCATION AND RESETTLEMENT PROGRAM. WE DO NOT WANNA SEE ICE TRUCKS DRIVING UP, DROPPING OFF KIDS AT THIS FACILITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE MANY SENIORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE LOTS OF ACTIVITIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO AS FAR AS A CHARACTER, IT DOES NOT FIT FAR AS A CODE FOR PLANNING URBAN AND LAND USE. IT DOES NOT FIT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE CITY'S LIBRARY. THE KIDS IN THOSE, THE PLAYGROUND NEXT TO IT AT THE CARBO LIBRARY, IT DOES NOT FIT. WE ARE VERY, UM, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BECAUSE YES, YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT A LETTER FROM NEW CAL SAN WILL PARK, BUT IT WAS SENT, I THINK PREMATURELY AND WE'VE HAD, UH, VISITS AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE, THE PRESIDENT OR ANY OF THE LEADERSHIP IS HERE TODAY, THIS AFTERNOON BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE IN THAT LETTER THAT SAID IF THE DEVELOPER DID THIS, IF THEY DID THAT AND BROUGHT THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THEN WE COULD MOVE FORWARD. IT ALSO SAID ON THE LAST SENTENCE, THEY NOTED THE CHURCHES AND FINANCIAL STRAITS, BUT THIS IS NOT THE PROJECT THAT'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT. WE NEED HELP, BUT THIS IS NOT THE PROJECT COUNCIL. SO WE'RE ASKING YOU ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS AND ALL OF US, UH, TO DENY THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. WATSON. PAMELA DANIELS FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER TOMMY CALVERT. I WANT TO YIELD MY TIME TO MR. CALVERT. OKAY. THANK YOU MS. DANIELS. COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE, UH, SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THE VISION. QUEST CHILD DETENTION CENTER. SUCH A DETENTION CENTER IS INCONSISTENT WITH MASTER PLANS. UH, VISION QUEST PUTS RESIDENTS IN CONFLICT WITH COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THAT IS TOO DISRUPTIVE, UH, TO THE MASTER PLANS AND TO THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE, UH, THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED IN THIS AREA IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND THE GOVERNOR AND OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS WHERE THE CITY GRANTED SUCH LAND USES FOR [02:50:01] DETENTION FACILITIES. IN THE PAST, THE FACILITY DID NOT ABUT RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UH, AS IT DOES, BUT THEY WERE IN COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS. WE KNOW THAT THESE CONTAINMENT FACILITIES WOULD CREATE PROTEST AND OTHER DISRUPTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY. IN FACT, AT THE CITY'S ZONING HEARING THAT PROCEEDED TODAY'S VOTE, A PASTOR CAME AS FAR AWAY AS CHICAGO TO PROTEST THIS VERY APPLICATION. MANY OF THE NEARBY RESIDENTS ARE SENIOR CITIZENS AND PICKETS, LARGE PROTESTS, CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION VISITS, AND MEDIA TRUCKS BLOCKING, CREATING LOUD PROTESTS AND STREET CLOSURES ARE NOT DESIRED. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS MOVE WOULD PUT SAN ANTONIO IN THE CONGREGATION AT SECOND BAPTIST ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY. THIS IS TRULY A CASE OF FORGIVE THEM. FATHER, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO. THE CRUEL AND CHAOTIC SYSTEM THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS PUT IN PLACE TO SEPARATE CHILDREN FROM THEIR FAMILIES IS TOO MUCH FOR EVEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. CHILDREN ARE GOING MISSING. THOUSANDS HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED, WHISTLEBLOWING GUARDS, PSYCHIATRISTS AND MEDICAL PERSONNEL ARE LEAVING THESE FACILITIES BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE ABUSE CAMPS AND THEY CANNOT HANDLE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE IT GIVES TO THE SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO KNOW THAT IN SPITE OF THEIR BEST INTENTIONS, THESE FACILITIES FALL SHORT OF GOOD TREATMENT OF GOD'S CHILDREN. THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS LEADING THE WAY IN GROUPS LIKE VISIONQUEST CANNOT GET LOANS FOR THEIR OPERATIONS FROM BANK OF AMERICA, JP MORGAN CHASE, WELLS FARGO, AND MANY OTHERS. I HAVE ATTENDED THREE HEARINGS, UH, WHERE I HAVE HEARD, UH, VISIONQUEST MINIMIZE THE DEATHS OF CHILDREN IN THEIR CUSTODY, MINIMIZE ABUSE SKIRT OVER THE PROVISION OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES BEING DENIED, MINIMIZE EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE CRITICIZED AND BLOWN THE WHISTLE ON THE COMPANY AND OBFUSCATE, UH, TO GOVERNMENTAL BODIES, A HARM DONE TO COMMUNITIES THEY CLAIM TO SERVE. I'D LIKE TO END IN QUOTING FROM CHILDREN WHO WERE IN THE CUSTODY OF VISION QUEST AND WROTE AN ONLINE BLOG TO WARN OTHERS NOT TO PARTNER WITH THEM. THE CHILDREN SAID, QUOTE, IT IS OUR STRONG CONVICTION THAT VISION QUEST IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ENVIRONMENT FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND SHOULD NOT CONTINUE TO RECEIVE CONTRACTS TO CARE FOR YOUTH. MANY OF US EXPERIENCE CHALLENGES WITH OUR EDUCATION, NOT HAVING ANY CLASSES DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, EVEN TEXTBOOKS. WE ALSO FELT THAT WE WERE NOT PROVIDED THE EMOTIONAL SUPPORT WE DESERVED AND NEEDED. RATHER, THE FACILITY PRIORITIZED CONTROL AND OBEDIENCE. WE AND OUR PEERS HAVE EXPERIENCED HARSH TREATMENT LIKE RESTRAINTS, BROKEN RIBS, AND BEING BURNT BY A HAIR IRON THAT HAS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED OUR LIVES. INSTEAD OF BEING SENT TO A PLACE THAT WOULD HAVE TO REHABILITATE US AND PROVIDE US SUPPORT, WE ENDURED MORE DAMAGE INSIDE THIS FACILITY THAN BEFORE WE ENTERED. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED STAFF MEMBERS WHO PUT THEIR HANDS ON US, OTHER YOUTH AND WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO SHARE WHAT HAPPENED. THESE INCIDENTS REFLECT VISION QUEST'S, HISTORY OF CAUSING HARM. WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT FACILITIES LIKE VISIONQUEST CAN PROVIDE THE SUPPORT THAT YOUNG PEOPLE NEED OR THESE FACILITIES ARE COMMITTED OR THAT THESE FACILITIES ARE COMMITTED TO HELPING YOUTH. THEY LACK HELPFUL SUPPORTS, LIMIT INTERACTIONS BETWEEN YOUTH AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND OFTEN CAUSE MORE TRAUMA AND STRESS THAT CAN PUSH A YOUTH TO CONTINUE ENGAGING IN DESTRUCTIVE AND SELF-HARM BEHAVIORS. MANY OF US FELT ISOLATED AND AFRAID AND OFTEN DID NOT SHARE OUR ABUSE UNTIL WE LEFT THE FACILITY. WE BELIEVE ALL YOUTH, UNDOCUMENTED OR OTHERWISE DESERVE TO BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND TO BE PUT IN A SAFE AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT. IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE OUR EXPERIENCES KNOWN SO THAT OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT FORCED TO ENDURE THE SAME HARDSHIPS THAT WE DID. LET'S NOT MISS THE FOREST FOR THE TREES HERE. MANY OF THESE CHILDREN ARE FLEEING ALL KINDS OF DANGEROUS SITUATIONS. ON SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH, I TRAVELED TO TIJUANA, MEXICO AS CHAIR OF THE ABOLISHED SLAVERY COALITION AND NON-PROFIT ANTI-TRAFFICKING ORGANIZATION. I MET A WOMAN NAMED JEANETTE, WHO WAS TR TRAFFICKED BY THE CARTEL AND HER, UH, FOUR FEMALE SIBLINGS, THREE OF THEIR SIBLINGS, MY ORGANIZATION, THE ABOLISHED SLAVERY COALITION, RETRIEVED THREE OF HER SISTERS. NOW THE CARTEL IS TAKING PICTURES OF ONE OF HER, UH, 13 YEAR OLD SISTERS. THEY ARE CAMPING OUT OUTSIDE OF HER SCHOOL, WAITING FOR HER TO COME OF AGE TO TRAFFIC HER. JEANETTE, WE BROUGHT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF IMMIGRATION BEFORE AND SHE ACTUALLY WOUND UP IN A FACILITY IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA. SHE TALKED ABOUT THE TRAUMA BEING SEPARATED FROM HER FAMILY. SHE COMPLAINED THE FOOD WAS BAD. SHE WAS GIVEN BREAD IN SOME SORT OF GELATIN, UH, IN THE DETENTION CENTER. UNFORTUNATELY, SHE WAS DENIED ASYLUM IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT SOME PRIVATE DETENTION CENTER, I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS THIS ONE, MADE SOMETHING LIKE OVER $200 A DAY OFF OF HER. I TRAVELED IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD AS NIGHT FELL. I WAS WORKING ON A HILL IN HER NEXT TO HER HOME WHERE THE CARTEL [02:55:01] CUTS OFF THE HEADS OF THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH THEM. IT'S THE BATTLEGROUND BETWEEN THE CINO LOA AND THE ZETA CARTEL. IT WAS IN FACT A VERY DANGEROUS MISSION. UM, IT FEELS AS IF IMMIGRATION IS PLAYING MANY GAMES. UNFORTUNATELY, UH, WE DON'T WANT SAN ANTONIO TO BE CAUGHT UP IN THE CONTEXT OF THESE KINDS OF IMMIGRATION GAMES. LET'S NOT MISS THE FOREST FOR THE TREES OF WHAT THE EVIL ECONOMY OF PRIVATE DETENTION CENTERS IS DOING PSYCHOLOGICALLY, PHYSICALLY, AND POLITICALLY. THANK YOU MAYOR AND THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER CALVERT. ALL. ALRIGHT. I THINK IT, IT BEARS REPEATING THIS, THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM. OKAY? 'CAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO SHUT ANYONE DOWN FOR SPEAKING ON TOPIC, BUT I'LL REMIND EVERYONE THAT SOME OF THE COMMENTS, IF THEY'RE MADE, UH, THAT ARE NOT LIMITED TO LAND USE OR ZONING ISSUES, ARE NOT GONNA BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THE CITY COUNCIL DECISIONS IN THESE CASES ARE BASED EXCLUSIVELY ON LAND USE AND ZONING PRINCIPLES, SUCH AS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. SO I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY OF THOSE LISTENING THAT IF YOU'RE ON TOPIC AND YOU VEER OUT OF THOSE ISSUES, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE CITY COUNCIL IS GONNA CONSIDER WHEN THEY MAKE THESE DECISIONS. SO, UH, PLEASE TRY TO STAY ON TOPIC AND PLEASE TRY, TRY TO GIVE US GUIDANCE IF YOU HAVE ANY ON THE, UH, UH, ON THE APPROPRIATE ISSUES OF COMPATIBILITY IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND SO FORTH. SO WE'LL START AGAIN WITH, UH, ROBERT EMERSON. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL PERSONS. I AM ROBERT JAMISON, WHO SERVES AS A PASTOR OF SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH. I'VE SERVED AS A PASTOR OF SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH FOR 26 YEARS ON SUNDAY. SECOND BAPTIST WILL CELEBRATE 140 YEARS OF PROVIDING LEADERSHIP COMPASSION AND MEETING THE NEEDS OF HUMAN PERSONS. SECOND BAPTIST, IT MAY BE OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT I NEED TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SECOND BAPTIST. SECOND BAPTIST HAS PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS. IN 19 64, 65, 66, SECOND BAPTIST SOLD ITS PROPERTY TO THE CITY. SO THAT 37, AN INTEREST TO 37 COULD BE IN PLACE. SECOND BAPTIST PARTNERED WITH THE CITY AGAIN FOR 20 YEARS TO PROVIDE A PARK AT NO COST TO THE CITY. THE CITY WAS TO PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN THE PARK, AND SECOND BAPTIST WAS TO OWN THE PARK, WHICH WE DID DO. SECOND BAPTIST, THE THE LIBRARY THAT A PREVIOUS PERSON SPOKE OF THAT LAND WAS DONATED TO, TO THE CITY SO THAT THE CARVER LIBRARY COULD BE BUILT. WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OVER THE YEARS. PREVIOUS PASTOR, MY PREDECESSOR, THE REVEREND DR. SS H JAMES JR. SERVES AS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN CITY COUNCIL PERSON. JOHN SANDERS, A MEMBER OF OUR CHURCH, SERVED AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON AS WELL, IS A CHURCH THAT GIVES OF ITSELF AND OF ITS TIME TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF PERSONS. OUR BUDGET OVER, OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, 10% OF OUR BUDGET GOES TO CHARITY. MATTER OF FACT, THAT CHARITY IS NOT JUST IN SAN ANTONIO, WHERE WE MEET THE NEEDS OF PERSONS EVERY MONDAY WHO COME, WHO NOT. MEMBERS OF SECOND BAPTIST, THEY COME AND THEY RECEIVE MONIES TO PAY THEIR RENT AND TO PAY THEIR LIGHT BILLS AND THEIR GAS BILLS. SECOND BAPTIST $50,000 WAS GIVEN TO HAITI TO HELP BUILD A HOSPITAL AND A WELL. WE ARE A CHURCH LIKE THIS CITY WHO GIVE OF THEIR TIME AND ALSO THEIR COMPASSION TO MEET THE NEEDS OF HUMANKIND. THAT FACILITY THAT WE HAVE IS A GREAT FACILITY AND IS OUR PROMISE TO YOUR CITY AND TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IT WILL NOT BE A DETENTION CENTER, BUT A RATHER A RESIDENTIAL CENTER. THANK YOU REVEREND JEFFERSON. THANK YOU. THOMAS WASHINGTON, FOLLOWED BY SIMONE ICEMAN. MY NAME IS THOMAS WASHINGTON. UM, I LIVE IN DISTRICT SEVEN. [03:00:01] I ATTEND SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH, AND I AM A DEACON MILITARY VETERAN OF 30 YEARS, AND I RETIRED FROM THE AIR FORCE. AS A COLONEL, I STRONGLY SUPPORT USING OUR COMMUNITY CENTER AS A SHELTER FOR HOMELESS UNACCOMPANIED MIGRANT BOYS. I AM A FATHER AND A GRANDFATHER. I HAVE FOUR GRANDDAUGHTERS AND THREE GRANDSONS ALL UNDER THE AGE OF SEVEN YEARS OLD. OUR PASTOR, ASSOCIATE MINISTERS, DEACONS, AND TRUSTEES ARE ALL PARENTS OR, AND OR GRANDPARENTS. AND WE LOVE AND CARE ABOUT CHILDREN. I SAY THIS BECAUSE OUR OPPONENTS OF THE SHELTER WILL STATE GREATLY EXAGGERATED CLAIMS ABOUT CHILD ABUSE IN THE FACILITY, EVEN BEFORE CONSTRUCTION HAS EVEN STARTED. ONE OF THE OPPOSING GROUPS AT THE ZONING MEETING EVEN COMPARED OUR PROPOSED SHELTER AT SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH TO THE EVENTS OF THE HOLOCAUST. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE THIS DISALLOW THESE FALSE AND EXTREME STATEMENTS. NO ONE IN THIS ROOM HAS THE ABILITY TO PREDICT A FUTURE SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH PLANS FOR THIS TO BE A MODEL FACILITY. AND WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT, NOT LOOKING FOR NEGATIVE PUBLICITY. NO ONE IN THIS ROOM CARESS MORE ABOUT THE TREATMENT AND WELLBEING OF OUR CHILDREN THAN OUR SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH FAMILY. AN ARTICLE FROM U S A TODAY ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, STATED 31,000 MIGRANTS HAVE BEEN RELEASED BY THE BORDER PATROL IN SAN ANTONIO. IT SAYS IT COSTS THE CITY OVER $540,000. SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR UP TO 90 UNACCOMPANIED MIGRANT BOYS IN OUR COMMUNITY CENTER. AND THE COST TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL BE $0. IN FACT, 100 NEW FULL-TIME JOBS WILL BE CREATED ALONG WITH CONSTRUCTION JOBS. THE SHELTER WILL PROVIDE A SAFE, CLEAN, COMFORTABLE COLLEGE DORMITORY STYLE FACILITY WITH MEDICAL CARE, DENTAL CARE, COUNSELING, LEGAL ASSISTANCE, EDUCATION, RECREATION, AND SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE. THIS $4 MILLION FACILITY IS PAID FOR BEING PAID FOR BY SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH MEMBERS, BUT IT'S OPEN TO, UH, USE BY THE COMMUNITY AND IS THREE FOURTHS OF THE WAY PAID FOR. WE, WE WE'RE NOT IN FINANCIAL DIFFICULTY, THREE FOURTHS OF THE WAY PAID FOR. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE REMOVE ANY POLITICS FROM YOUR DECISION REGARDING ZONING REQUESTS AND KNOW THAT HOUSING THE BOYS IN SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH COMMUNITY CENTER WILL BE FAR SUPERIOR TO THE OVERCROWDED FACILITIES WE HAVE SEEN ON TV. THAT AND PREVENT THE, THE CHILDREN FROM BEING RELEASED TO AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT ON OUR CITY STREETS. THERE ARE CURRENTLY SIX EXISTING SHELTERS IN SAN ANTONIO. I HAVE EXTRA TIME FROM. OKAY. UM, YOU STILL HAVE A BIT OF TIME LEFT. WHO DO YOU HAVE TIME FROM? OKAY. UH, WHO, WHO'S YIELDING THEIR TIME TO YOU? UM, JACKSON. OKAY, MR. JACKSON, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MORE MINUTES. UH, MR. WASHINGTON. OKAY, A SECOND. UH, UH, PASTOR JAMISON SAYS, SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH DONATES 10% OF OUR ANNUAL INCOME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THE SATURDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF US DONATE TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. UH, THE SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH GAVE OUR DISTRICT TWO NEIGHBORS 140 TURKEYS PLUS ALL THE FIXINGS FOR A COMPLETE THANKSGIVING DINNER. AND WE DO THIS ANNUALLY. ANOTHER WEEKLY SERVICE, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICE. SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH PROVIDES ASSISTING NON-MEMBERS IN, IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH, UH, WITH THE UTILITY ASSISTANCE. WHEN CITY PUBLIC SERVICE GIVES ONE OF THEIR CUSTOMERS A DISCONNECT. NOTICE THEY REFER THOSE CUSTOMERS TO SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. THIS SERVICE IS AVAILABLE TO OUR NEIGHBORS CITYWIDE, BUT IT'S MOSTLY USED BY OUR NEIGHBORS AND DISTRICT TWO. IN MOST CASES, CASES WE HELP PREVENT THE, THE, THEIR LIGHTS FROM BEING DISCONNECTED. SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE EVEN GREATER ASSISTANCE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IF THE PAROLE PROPOSED SHELTER IS APPROVED. IF A LAND DEVELOPER WANTED TO DEVELOP A TRACK LAND FOR COMMERCIAL USE, WOULD ZONING APPROVAL DEPEND ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT LAND DEVELOPER HAD A SPEEDING TICKET IN HIGH SCHOOL OR IF THEY WERE A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN? YOUR CITY ATTORNEY IN A STATEMENT TO KEN'S FIVE, SAID IN OCTOBER THAT AT ISSUE HERE IS SIMPLY WHETHER OR NOT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, FACILITY WHICH IS BEING USED FOR RELIGIOUS, RECREATIONAL EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES, CAN MEET THE LOCAL, STATE FEDERAL REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY HOUSING SERVICES FOR MIGRANT CHILDREN. I WOULD ASK THAT THIS BE THE FOCUS WHEN CONSIDERING OUR ZONING REQUESTS. SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH HAS BEEN A BEACON OF LIGHT IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 140 YEARS. OUR NAME AND REPUTATION OR STATE WITH THIS PROPOSAL IF APPROVED, WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO PROVIDE THE STRINGENT AND TRANSPARENT OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE ITS SUCCESS. SO WE, WE PRAY THAT GOD'S WILL BE DONE [03:05:01] AND THAT HE GRANTS EACH OF US THE WISDOM AND THE COURAGE TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. THANK YOU, MR. WASHINGTON. SIMONE ISAM. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SIMONE ISAM, A RETIRED EDUCATOR WITH 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WHERE OVER 25 OF THOSE YEARS HAVE BEEN SPENT TEACHING EAST EYE CHILDREN AT SAM HOUSTON, HIGHLANDS DAVIS, AND OTHER SCHOOLS. I GREW UP ON THE EAST SIDE. I'VE ENJOYED MEMBERSHIP AT SECOND BAPTIST FOR 60 YEARS. ALL OF MY LIFE BEFORE ME. TWO OTHER GENERATIONS OF MY ANCESTORS WERE MEMBERS OF SECOND BAPTIST. DURING OUR 140 YEARS OF EXISTENCE, WE HAVE NEVER HAD THE REPUTATION OF PROFITING OFF OF ANY ONE OR ANY ORGANIZATION. OUR MISSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO HELP OTHERS. SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH BELIEVES IN NURTURING CHILDREN NOT FOR PROFIT, BUT BECAUSE WE LOVE CHILDREN, WE WANT TO PROVIDE THESE CHILDREN WHO ARE VICTIMS AT THE BORDER TO HAVE SAFE ACCOMMODATIONS AS THEY GROW UP. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM IN SAFE, COMFORTABLE BEDS AND ENJOY OUR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES WHILE THEY WAIT FOR THEIR PARENTS TO PICK THEM UP. THIS PROJECT ALSO GUARANTEES AT LEAST 41 JOBS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS ON THE EAST SIDE. NURSES, TEACHERS, SECURITY, FOOD SERVICE, ET CETERA. THESE JOBS WILL GREATLY BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY ON THE EAST SIDE AND DIS DISTRICT TWO. ANOTHER PLUS WILL BE THAT THERE WILL BE AN OUTSIDE PLAY AREA WHERE THESE CHILDREN CAN GET SUNSHINE AND ALSO THE CARVER LIBRARY SO THAT THEY CAN READ BOOKS. THIS WILL NOT BE A DETENTION CENTER, BUT A FACILITY TO HOUSE CHILDREN AS THEY GROW UP. I WENT TO SCHOOL ON THE EAST SIDE, TAUGHT HERE AS WELL. AT NO TIME IN MY YEARS HAVE I EXPERIENCED RACIAL TENSIONS ON THE EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO. HISPANICS AND AFRICAN AMERICANS GET ALONG VERY WELL TOGETHER, AND I REALLY TAKE OBJECTION TO THOSE WHO WOULD ARGUE OTHERWISE. THESE CHILDREN WILL SEE BROWN FACES JUST LIKE THEIRS AND WILL BE LOVED AND CARED FOR AT OUR COMMUNITY CENTER. FURTHERMORE, OUR BELOVED EAST SIDE WILL BE UPLIFTED. I SEE THIS AS A WIN-WIN SITUATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. ISAM SHELITA PLUMMER. MS. PLUMMER, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY ALAN JACKSON. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH, WHERE I'M A MEMBER AND I HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE ZONING, UM, UH, DECISION THAT WAS MADE BY THE COMMISSION SOME WEEKS AGO AND YOUR DECISION THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY MAKE THIS AFTERNOON. IN MY EYE, THE JUDGMENT AGAINST THE PROPOSED CONTRACT AND ZONING REQUEST IS NOT BASED ON REASONABLE OR RELEVANT FACTS. COMMUNITY FACTIONS AND INDIVIDUALS HAVE JUDGED, ATTACKED AND DEHUMANIZED. SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH AND VISION QUEST SAN ANTONIO AS WELL. PRESIDENT OBAMA WARNED THAT THESE BA THESE BEHAVIORS ARE NOT ACTIVISM AND THEY DON'T LEAD TO POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT OR DUE PROCESS. THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL FLAWS IN HOW THE ZONING COMMISSION IMPLEMENTS POLICY IN REGARD TO ZONING REQUESTS. FOR EXAMPLE, I LIVE IN WILLOW WOOD, THE ZONING COMMISSION, UH, APPARENTLY APPROVED A PORTA POTTY COMPANY EIGHT DOORS DOWN FROM MY RESIDENCE. AND IT SEEMS STRANGE TO ME THAT ANYONE WOULD APPROVE SUCH A THING IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. YES, THAT AREA AROUND BELGIUM, UH, AT AND T PARKWAY DOES HAVE LIKE COMMERCIAL, BUT A PORTA POTTY COMPANY REALLY, TWO TO THREE DAYS A WEEK YOU'RE GONNA SMELL THE FECES. AND I KNOW YOU WOULDN'T WANT THAT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER. SECONDLY, INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO REMODEL HOMES AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS, TURNING THEM INTO ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES. UM, SEEMINGLY UNBEKNOWNST TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE DIDN'T GET THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT NEWS AND I WONDER TOO IF CODE COMPLIANCE WAS EVEN AWARE OF IT YET. SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH IS NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE A FEW CHANGES TO MODIFY THE COMMUNITY CENTER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF 50 TO 90 YOUNG PEOPLE. [03:10:02] THE ZONING POLICY AS APPLIED SEEMS TO, UH, FAVOR DEVELOPERS IN MOST CITIES. AND I'M FROM AUSTIN AND, AND, AND I SEE THAT ALL I SAW THAT ALL THE TIME. THE DECISION OF THE S SONY COMMISSION AND VIEWS STATED PUBLICLY BY SOME MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I BELIEVE ARE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS AND HARMFUL TO SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH AND VISION QUEST SAN ANTONIO IN OVER 140 YEARS. SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO PORTRAY YOUR TRUST IN THAT CHURCH. AND IT APPEARS THAT, UH, VISION QUEST SAN ANTONIO HASN'T DONE SO EITHER. THE PHILOSOPHER CICERO SAID, LET THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE BE THE ULTIMATE LAW. PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO HALF TRUTHS, FALSE STATEMENTS, RUMORS, PREVALENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THESE STATEMENTS ARE WRONG AND SH AND THESE STATEMENTS SHOULD NOT IN ANY WAY GUIDE YOUR DECISION. I'M ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE ZONING REQUEST PROPOSED AND THE CONTRACT BETWEEN SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH AND VISION QUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. PLUMMER. ALAN JACKSON. I'M ALAN JACKSON. I'LL BE SEATING MY EYE FROM CHRIS MEYERS TO CHRIS MEYERS. OKAY. UM, HENRY ROSS. MR. ROSS, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY CHRIS MYERS AND MR. MYERS, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS, UH, HENRY ROSS. I AM A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO AND I'M ALSO A PROUD MEMBER OF THE GREAT SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH WHERE I SERVE AS A TRUSTEE. AND I MIGHT ALSO SAY THAT I'M A PROUD 17 YEAR FORMER CITY EMPLOYEE. UM, I HAVE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ZONING CHANGE. IT IS NOT A DETENTION CENTER. IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CARTELS. SO I ASK YOU TODAY TO VOTE FOR THIS ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE IT WILL BE A CLEAN FACILITY AND PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. ROSS. CHRIS MEYERS. MR. MEYERS, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY MARK QUINTO. SIR, UH, WE HAD A SET OF CHARTS. UH, I'M CHRIS MEYERS, THE DIRECTOR OF FEDERAL PROGRAMS AT VISION QUEST. I THINK IT WAS UNDER JAMES MCKNIGHT. DO YOU WANNA PULL THOSE UP? OKAY. UH, NEXT CHART, PLEASE. UH, SO VISION QUEST HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 19 73, 40 YEARS, SERVING CHILDREN, UM, IN DIFFERENT STATES. NEXT CHART, PLEASE. WE PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS, COMMUNITY BASED OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMUNITY BASED PROGRAMS, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, FAMILY BASED SERVICES, SO WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS TO SUPPORT YOUTH. UM, WE ARE, LET'S SEE WHERE IT GOES. UM, SO WE'RE WITH THE OFFICE OF, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE OFFICE OF REFUGEE AND RESETTLEMENT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, NOT HOMELAND SECURITY. THEY TAKE UNACCOMPANIED MINORS. THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE 1960, SO IT'S NOT A NEW TRUMP PROGRAM, AS WAS ASSERTED EARLIER, TO TAKE KIDS THAT CROSS THE BORDER AND TAKE THEM OUT OF VERY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS AND PUT THEM INTO SAFE SHELTERS, WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU PICTURES OF COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO. SO IT'S THE OFFICE OF REFUGEE AND RESETTLEMENT, AND HOME AND HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. AND IT'S UN UNACCOMPANIED MINORS THAT CROSS THE BORDER. THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS INVOLVED WITH THIS AS THEY CROSS THE BORDER, UM, WITHIN, UM, AS UNACCOMPANIED MINORS WITHIN CERTAIN TIMEFRAMES. THEY WON'T GO EVERYTHING, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THESE SHELTERS OUT OF THE DETENTION CENTERS. CLEARLY THERE'S NOT ENOUGH BEDS TO DO THIS. THAT'S WHY THE KIDS ARE, ARE STUCK IN THE DETENTION CENTERS. SO PROVIDING THESE TYPE OF SHELTERS IN SAN ANTONIO AND OTHER PLACES TO SUPPORT CHILDREN IN A HOMELIKE ENVIRONMENT. SO TAKING FROM CAGES TO A HOMELAND ENVIRONMENT IS WHAT THIS DOES. AND THAT'S THE FACTS. NEXT CHART IS, THIS IS WHAT WE PROVIDE. THIS IS WHAT WE PROVIDE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH. SECOND BAPTIST WILL BE HEALTHCARE SERVICES, RECREATIONS FOR THE CHILDREN, SIX HOURS OF EDUCATION A DAY, ALL THE HYGIENE, HYGIENE AND NUTRITION, UH, MEALS, UH, AS WELL AS THEY GET CASE MANAGEMENT, SERVICE, LEGAL SERVICES, ET CETERA. THE WHOLE GOAL WITH THESE CHILDREN IS TO REUNIFY THEM WITH THEIR FAMILY. SO, SOME OF THE FOLKS INCORRECTLY NOTED EARLIER, THE WHOLE PROCESS IS INVOLVED AS THESE CHILDREN COME INTO THE SHELTER, IS TO GET THEM WITHIN 90 DAYS TO A FAMILY MEMBER IN THE UNITED STATES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE REFUGEES WHEN THEY CROSS THE BORDER AS UNACCOMPANIED MINORS. SO WE CARE FOR THEM IN THE SHELTER, GIVE THEM THE HOME ENVIRONMENT, AND GET THEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE INTO THEIR, UH, RELATIVES. UM, REAL QUICKLY, UM, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH THE CHURCH. THE CHURCH HAS BEEN DOING YOUTH SERVICES FOR [03:15:01] YEARS, AND, UH, THEY, UH, THIS IS PART OF THE THING. AND PEOPLE, MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH WILL BE, UH, INVOLVED WITH THIS. ON THE, ON THE ADVISORY COUNCIL, AGAIN, IT'S A REUNIFICATION CENTER IS THE KEY. THIS IS WHAT A DETENTION CENTER LOOKS LIKE IN TEXAS ON YOUR BORDER. AND THIS IS WHAT A SHELTER LOOKS LIKE. IN THAT WE HAVE OPERATING IN TUCSON. IT'S A HOMELIKE ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS FACTUALLY FROM, FROM DATED ON SEPTEMBER 24TH. SO THERE'S A BROAD DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING KIDS CAGED IN THE WATER AND THOSE DETENTIONS THAT I SHOWED IN THIS ONE, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT DOING IT. SO THE, UH, NOT GOING BACK. SO SORRY. ALRIGHT. SO THE, UM, DETENTION CENTER'S AT THE BORDER, UH, SO THE, THAT'S A DETENTION CENTER. AND THEN I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT. THAT'S A CAGE AND WE'RE PUTTING THE KIDS IN A VERY HOMELIKE ENVIRONMENT THAT THAT'S THE FACTS. SO THIS IS NOT A DETENTION CENTER. THIS IS A, A PLACE WHERE KIDS, UH, CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE IN A HOMELIKE ENVIRONMENT. AND OUR WHOLE GOAL YET IS TO GET THEM BACK WITH THEIR FAMILIES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND IT'S A, IT'S A MISSION OF THE CHURCH. THEY'VE BEEN NEW AND YOUTH SERVICES FOREVER, AND THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THEIR SERVICES IN THE, IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY. UH, VISION QUEST HAS BEEN PERFORMING EXTRAORDINARILY WELL HERE IN TEXAS. WE HAVE A VARIETY OF CONTRACTS AT THE, THE COUNTY AND STATE LEVEL HERE IN FORT WORTH. AS YOU'LL NOTE SOME OF THE COMMENTS, ALL STAFF ARE WARM, FRIENDLY, ACCOMMODATING IN TERMS OF DEDICATION. AS THE SEVERAL SPEAKERS MADE EARLIER, ALLEGATIONS OF POOR PERFORMANCE, WE HAVE ACTUAL FACTS AND EVIDENCE THAT WE DO PERFORM HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY. FOR SIX YEARS, WE'VE PROVIDED SERVICES TO TROUBLED YOUTH. UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, UH, A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM, UH, THE, UH, BEXAR COUNTY JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT, UH, SUPPORTING OUR, OUR O R R EFFORTS BECAUSE OF OUR GOOD PERFORMANCE HERE IN THE COUNTY WITH THEM IN DELAWARE, WE, WE HAVE 233 CHILDREN SERVE IN YOUTH REHABILITATION SERVICES. AND AGAIN, OUR, OUR, OUR MARKS WERE HIRED THERE WITH ZERO INCIDENCES AND ZERO DEFICIENCIES. SO WE'RE A GOOD STEWARD OF, OF, OF CHILDREN AND CARING FOR THEM. MARYLAND, THE SAME THING. UH, WE HAVE A FACILITY THERE IN MARYLAND, AND AGAIN, UH, WE HAVE NO, HAVE HAD NO ISSUES THERE AND HAVE GOTTEN CONTINUED CONTRACTS FOR THAT. THIS IS OUR, OUR O R R CENTER IN, UM, IN ARIZONA, UH, SHELTER SERVICES. THERE. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE METRICS, WE EXCEED OR MEET ALL THE METRICS THAT THEY REQUIRE. AND, AND THEY CHECK US. THEY COME AND CHECK US EVERY WEEK, EVERY MONTH, DIFFERENT INSPECTORS COME IN. SO THE FACILITY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, WHICH YOU HAVE FOUR OR FIVE OTHERS FROM OTHER COMPANIES, WILL BE ALSO, UH, CHECKED BY LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MEET ALL OF TEXAS GUIDELINES AS WELL. STAFFING, UH, SAID A NUMBER OF JOBS HERE. 95 DIRECT EMPLOYEES, 235 INDIRECT, UH, A LARGE TAX IMPACT. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ONLY STEWARDS OF CHILDREN, BUT HELPING YOUR ECONOMY. UM, SO LASTLY, ON OUR COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE TO MEET FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS. WE ONLY HAVE TWO KIDS PER BEDROOM. THIS IS ACTUAL PICTURES OF ONE OF OUR FACILITIES. BOTTOM LINE HERE IS WE WOULD APPRECIATE IN TERMS OF, UH, AS, AS STATED EARLIER, UH, THE, THE ZONING CODE. WE, WE BELIEVE WE MEET IT IN THE REQUEST THAT WE HAVE. WE'D ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO THINK ABOUT POLITICS. THIS IS REALLY TAKING KIDS AND SAVING CHILDREN FROM CAGES AND PUTTING 'EM IN A SAFE SHELTER HERE AT SECOND BAPTIST. THANK YOU MR. MYERS. MARK CONTENTO. MARK CONTENTO. I WAS GONNA SEE, UM, I'M SORRY, MARK. UH, YOU'RE MR. CONTENTO? YES. OKAY. UM, JAMES, YOU'RE, UH, FAR DOWN THE LIST. I'LL CALL YOU WHEN YOUR, WHEN YOUR NAME COMES UP, BUT YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU. OKAY. IF WE COULD PUT THE SLIDESHOW BACK UP, PLEASE WAIT, I'LL CALL YOU WHEN YOU'RE COMING UP. YOU GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE IN FRONT OF YOU. RIGHT? BUT HE'S, I'LL CALL YOU WHEN YOU'RE SIGNED UP. MARK SEATED HIS TIME TO YOU. SO YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. OKAY. UM, IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS. ALRIGHT. JESSICA AZUA, MS. AZUA, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY CAROLINA GONZALEZ. OKAY. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR. UH, MY NAME IS JESSICA SOA, AND I'M THE STATE IMMIGRATION CAMPAIGN COORDINATOR AT TEXAS ORGANIZING PROJECT. AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT EIGHT. UM, FIRST I WANNA SAY THAT THIS IS, I HATE TO BE HERE. I HATE THAT THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IS PUTTING US IN THIS PLACE. UM, AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT US VERSUS THEM. UM, I CAME TO THIS COUNTRY WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD, SAME AGE AS THE CHILDREN WHO WILL BE HELD AT THIS ATTENTION CENTER. THE DIFFERENCE, THE DIFFERENCE WAS THAT I WAS LUCKY AND I DID NOT GET CAUGHT IN THE SYSTEM [03:20:01] AS AN UNACCOMPANIED MINOR. IT'S NOT HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE MYSELF BEING IN THEIR POSITION. UM, I WAS FORTUNATE THAT I MADE THE JOURNEY TO SAN ANTONIO UNDETECTED INTO THE ARMS OF MY FATHER. CHILDREN JUST DO NOT BELONG IN DETENTION, WHATEVER KIND OF DETENTION. UM, I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW WE EVEN GOT HERE, UM, TO A TIME WHERE SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT IT'S OKAY TO KEEP CHILDREN IN DETENTION. UH, YOU JUST HEARD FROM VISION QUEST AND THEY PAINT YOU A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF HOW THIS DETENTION CENTER IT'S GOING TO BE. UM, BUT REMEMBER THAT A GOLDEN CAGE IS STILL A CAGE. THESE CHILDREN DIDN'T BELONG WITH THEIR FAMILIES. IF THIS IS NOT A DETENTION CENTER, WILL THEY BE FREE TO GO WHENEVER THEY WANT? WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THEY DO SAN ANTONIO PRIDE ITSELF IN BEING A COMPASSIONATE CITY? BUT WE CANNOT WILLINGLY AND KNOWINGLY ALLOW A COMPANY SUCH AS VISION QUEST, WHO I REMIND YOU, HAS A HORRIBLE RECORD OF CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT TO OPERATE IN OUR BACKYARD. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE MY WORD. YOU CAN DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND YOU WILL FIND IT. UM, IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. UM, AND ALSO THAT IT'S, UM, THAT IT'S RECEIVING AROUND $14 MILLION FROM DETAINING CHILDREN. THEY'RE PROFITING FROM DETAIN, DETAINING CHILDREN. UM, ALSO I WANNA SAY THAT THE CHURCH IS JUST LEASING, UH, THE BUILDING TO VISION QUEST. VISION QUEST IS THE ONE WHO'S GONNA BE RUNNING IT AGAIN. THEY HAVE A BAD RECORD OF CHILD NEGLECT AND ABUSE. UM, THE PROPOSED ATTENTION CENTER, UH, WILL ALSO BE SITTING NEXT TO A PUBLIC LIBRARY CARVER LIBRARY. SO THIS DETENTION CENTER NOT ONLY AFFECTS THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE AROUND THAT AREA OR THE BUSINESSES BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC PLACE. CARVER LIBRARY IS A PUBLIC LIBRARY. SO EVERYONE THAT GOES TO THE LI THE LIBRARY, UM, ACTUALLY HAVE A SAY AND, AND WILL BE AFFECTED BY KNOWING THAT THERE IS A DETENTION CENTER RIGHT NEXT TO IT. SO OUR ASS IS LOUD AND CLEAR. WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE ZONING COMMISSION, UH, THAT THE YEAH. THE DECISION THAT THEY MADE A FEW WEEKS AGO IN DENYING THE ZONING, ZONING REQUEST CHANGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS. AZUA CAROLINA GONZALEZ, MS. ZALES, WHO'D BE FOLLOWED BY LUKE FLT. GREAT. AWESOME. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, COUNSEL. I RECENTLY AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO. I USED TO BE IN PARIS DISTRICT, UM, IN DISTRICT TWO. UH, I AM HERE TO REPRESENT, UH, THE COALITION OF IMMIGRATION IN SAN ANTONIO, WHICH IS OVER 26 ORGANIZATIONS. AND WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS SONY REQUEST. SO WE'RE ALSO VOICING OUR, YOU KNOW, OPPOSITION IN THE SONY, UM, COMMISSION MEETING THAT HAPPENED, I WOULD SAY BEGINNING OF THE MONTH. UM, WHILE IT IS, IT'S HARD TO STAY COMPATIBLE TO THE ZONING ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A MORAL ISSUE TOO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. UM, FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, THE LEADERSHIP OF JESSICA, WE KNOW THAT THIS CHILDREN, IF THEY STEP OUTSIDE, IT IS A CUSTOM OF THE, OR FACILITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO CALL THE POLICE OF THE CHILDREN ON THE CHILDREN THAT STEP OUTSIDE OF THE SHELTER SO THAT IT IS POLICING THAT IS RESTRAINING THEIR FREEDOM AND IMPOSING MORE TRAUMA ON FOLKS THAT TRY TO LEAVE OR TRY TO SEEK SHELTER IN OTHER PLACES. SO IT'S HARD TO, TO ACCEPT THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN. KNOWING THAT VISION QUEST HAS A HISTORY. IF YOU READ THE RECENT ARTICLE IN PHILADELPHIA, THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA SAID NO TO VISION QUEST BECAUSE OF THE TROUBLING HISTORY THAT IT WOULD BRING. AND GOING BACK TO CULVERT'S COMMENTS EARLIER, IF YOU DO OPEN THIS FACILITY, YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC, UM, OPPOSITION AND DEMONSTRATIONS THAT WILL MAKE THE LIFE OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD A LOT MORE HARDER THAN WHAT THEY'RE USED TO RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE I COULD TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT WE WILL GO AND WE WILL SHOW UP UNTIL THEIR CHILDREN ARE FREE AND THEY'RE SAFE AND NO LONGER IN, IN A RESTRICTED FACILITY. WHETHER THEY HAVE NICE FITS, WHETHER THEY HAVE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, WE KNOW THAT THE STAFF OF VISION QUEST DOESN'T REALLY CARE FOR MENTAL HEALTH OR THE WELLBEING. THEY CARE FOR KEEPING SOMEONE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME SO THEY CAN MAKE MONEY EVERY DAY THAT THE PERSON IS THERE. UH, SO THE INTENTION IS FOR PROFIT. THE INTENTION IS NOT FOR CARE. WE'VE SEEN IT IN PHILADELPHIA. WE'VE SEEN IT IN NEW MEXICO, WHETHER WE'RE ALSO DENIED TO HAVE A SPACE TO RUN FACILITIES LIKE THE ONES THEY PAINTED ON THE POWERPOINT. SO WE WILL BE THERE. WE'LL OPPOSE THIS IN THE STREETS HERE AT CITY COUNCIL. UH, WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY CHILD DESERVES FREEDOM AND DESERVES TO BE WITH A FAMILY AND NOT WITH A FACILITY THAT IS NOT GONNA BE THERE FOR THEM. UH, ALSO, JUST THE FACT OR OUR FACILITIES, EVERY TIME A CHILD TURNS 18 YEARS OLD, THEY TURN THEM BACK TO CUSTOM [03:25:01] BORDERS, PATROL CUSTODY. THEY DON'T GO TO SAFETY AFTER LOTS. SO, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MS. ZALES. LUKE FLT, FOLLOWED BY DEBORAH HERNANDEZ. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S LUKE FLT. I'M A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER AT LUTHER BURBANK HIGH SCHOOL IN DISTRICT FIVE, AND A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT THREE. I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TEACHERS AND SUPPORT PERSONNEL OF SAN ANTONIO, I S D, MANDATED BY THE DE DEMOCRATIC VOICE OF OUR DISTRICT'S EDUCATORS. TO REGISTER OUR OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED VISION QUEST CHILD DETENTION CENTER, AND TO ASK YOU TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IN DENYING THIS APPLICATION. MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE FACE A MOMENT OF IMMENSE MORAL AND ETHICAL IMPORTANCE IN OUR CITY, IN A COUNTRY IN WHICH RECORD NUMBERS OF IM ARE IMMIGRANT. BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE BEING IMPRISONED, OTHERED, AND DEHUMANIZED AS FAMILIES IN THEIR TENS OF THOUSANDS ARE TORN APART BY FEDERAL IMMIGRATION POLICIES. AND IN A STATE WHICH HAS UNFORTUNATELY OFTEN LED THE WAY IN ATTACKING IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND USING THEIR DEHUMANIZATION FOR POLITICAL CAPITAL. I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO LEAD DIFFERENTLY. AS A TEACHER, I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF COMPASSION IN MY INTERACTIONS WITH THE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES I SERVE AS AN IMMIGRANT AND ONE STRANGER TO SAN ANTONIO, I KNOW THIS CITY HAS A WELCOMING PLACE OF LOVE AND COMPASSION AS A HUMAN BEING. I UNDERSTAND THE INTRINSIC VALUE OF HUMAN LIFE, HUMAN RIGHTS, AND THE VERY HUMAN FREEDOMS THAT MANY OF US TAKE FOR GRANTED. I ASK THAT THIS COUNCIL CONTINUES TO LEAD IN THE MANNER TO WHICH WE'RE BECOMING ACCUSTOMED THROUGH SITE AND RELEASE PAID SICK TIME IN THE CITY'S CLIMATE PLAN AS LEADERS WHO PRIORITIZE HUMAN LIFE AND FREEDOM OVER REACTIONARY AND XENOPHOBIC CONCERNS. THIS VISION QUEST FACILITY DOES NOT BELONG HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. THE WELCOMING, LOVING CITY THAT I HAVE MADE, MY HOME IS NO PLACE FOR THEM. AND IT'S CERTAINLY NO PLACE FOR A FOR-PROFIT DETENTION CENTER FOR UNDOCUMENTED CHILDREN. WE ALL OWE OUR UNDOCUMENTED COMMUNITIES SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT. SAN ANTONIO SHOULD NEVER FACILITATE THE OPENING OF DETENTION CENTERS FOR CHILDREN OR ADULTS FLEEING DANGER OR SEEKING A BETTER LIFE. THIS CITY SHOULD REFUSE TO BE PART OF TRUMP'S OR ANYONE ELSE'S DETENTION AND DEPORTATION MACHINE HISTORY WILL JUDGE US BY THE CHOICES WE MAKE IN THESE DIFFICULT TIMES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. AMPLE. DEBORAH HERNANDEZ. MR. HERNANDEZ, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY ALEX ROOTER. HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, MY NAME IS DEBBIE HERNANDEZ, DISTRICT FOUR. UM, I LIKE MS. JESSICA, UM, USE OUR PUBLIC LIBRARIES AND, UM, THAT DISTRICT DOES AFFECT ME TOO IN THE CITY. UM, WHAT I WANNA TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT, I, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF ATTENDING AND SPEAKING AT AN EVENT WHERE, UM, FORMER JAPANESE INTERNMENT, UH, CAMP CHILDREN, UM, CAME TO SAN ANTONIO TO TELL ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN CARRIZO SPRINGS, TEXAS. ONE BY ONE, EACH CHILD SPOKE UP. THERE WAS ONE ELDER WHO WAS TOO WEAK TO STAND, AND THE MICROPHONE WAS BROUGHT TO HER. SHE REMEMBERS BEING IN HER CONCENTRATION CAMP WHEN SHE WAS ONLY SEVEN YEARS OLD. NOW, SHE COULDN'T WALK. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS SHE COULDN'T DO, BUT SHE SURE COULD REMEMBER HER TIME THERE. AND EVERY YEAR THEY GO TO CARRIZO SPRINGS TO REMEMBER THE HOR THINGS THAT THEY HAD TO ENDURE IN CARRIZO SPRINGS. I DO NOT WANT THAT TO BE SAN ANTONIO ONE DAY. NOW, I WILL TELL YOU, I'VE READ ABOUT VISION QUEST. YOU SHOULD READ ABOUT VISION QUEST, TOO. THEY HAVE A STRING OF HORRENDOUS CHILD ABUSE CASES, THINGS THAT THEY, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CONVICTED ON, AND THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT FAKE STORIES. THEY'RE FACTS. VISION QUEST AT THE ZONING COMMISSION EVEN ADMITTED, YEAH, THERE WAS SOME STUFF THAT WE'VE DONE, BUT RECENTLY IT'S BEEN GREAT. I'M SORRY IF I'M A CHILD MOLESTER. IF I'M A CHILD MOLESTER FOR ANY, ANY LENGTH OF TIME FOR FOREVER, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE CHILDREN. OKAY? IF I HAVE A DAYCARE AND I'VE BEEN ABUSIVE TO CHILDREN, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE CHILDREN ANYMORE IN MY DAYCARE. BUT YET WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS WITH VISION QUEST. AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE CHILDREN KNOWINGLY THAT HAVE BEEN THIS, THIS COMPANY'S HAD A HISTORY OF ABUSE, AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE THESE CHILDREN IN SAN ANTONIO AND HAND THEM OVER AND HOPE THAT THEY'RE OKAY. NOW, UNLIKE WHAT THE, I I RESPECT THE BAPTIST PEOPLE VERY MUCH, BUT UNLIKE WHAT THEY ARE BEING TOLD, WHEN THAT DOOR SHUTS, NOBODY SEES THESE KIDS. NOBODY DOES. THINK ABOUT ALL THE CASE. YOU'VE SEEN THE NEWS. CONGRESS COULDN'T GET IN, IN TO SEE THE KIDS. THEY COULDN'T EVEN TAKE A PICTURE OF WHAT THE CONDITIONS WERE THAT THE KIDS WERE IN. SO DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ANYBODY ALLOWED [03:30:01] ONCE THEY SHUT THE DOOR ON THE EAST SIDE, ALL WE'RE GONNA DO IS HEAR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY DIES OR A A ANOTHER LITTLE GIRL IS RAPED IN THIS PLACE OR SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS. NO SOAP GIRLS WITH MENSTRUAL CYCLE IN THEIR PANTS. I MEAN, WE, YOU CANNOT ALLOW THIS. IT'S NOT OKAY, AND IT'S NOT OKAY IN SAN ANTONIO, NOT IN MY CITY. SO PLEASE VOTE NO, DO NOT ALLOW VISION QUEST HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. HERNANDEZ. ALEX ROOTER. MR. RUDY WILL BE FOLLOWED BY CHERYL MATTHEWS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I, I'M A PART OF THAT PRESENTATION THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER. I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER THE NAME OF JAMES MCKNIGHT, AND HIS SLIDES ARE ACTUALLY BEFORE MINE, SO I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH 'EM QUICKLY TO GET TO MINE. BUT IF YOU'D RATHER HEAR FROM HIM FIRST, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE WITH THE PRESENTATION. YOU CAN, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO USE YOUR THREE MINUTES ANYWAY. YOU, YOU WISH HIS SIX MINUTES ARE COMING UP, UH, IN JUST A LITTLE WHILE. OKAY. WELL, TO THAT END, UM, I BELIEVE A PERSON HAD CONCEDED THEIR TIME TO ME AS WELL. UH, WHO'S THAT? UH, WHO HAD CONCEDED THE CHERYL MATTHEWS. CHERYL. IS MATTHEWS OKAY? YEAH. UH, MR. RUDY, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES NOW. I, I I DO ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER. YOU DON'T THE NUMBER. LET'S JUST SAY NEXT. YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LOT. YEAH, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO, WHILE I'M DOING THIS, UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS ALEX ERDER. I'M AN ATTORNEY FROM THE LAW FIRM OF DALTON AND TOMICH, WHICH IS LOCATED IN MICHIGAN. AND, UH, WE REPRESENT THE CHURCH. AND I JUST, AGAIN, WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY. UM, SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH IS A FAITH COMMUNITY. LET'S GO BACK. THAT, UM, IS DEDICATED TO WORSHIPING GOD THROUGH THE DIRECTIVES OF THE BIBLE CHARITY, CARING FOR THE NEEDY AND MINISTERING TO CHILDREN ARE ALL CENTRAL TENETS OF THE CHURCH'S RELIGION. NOW, OVER THE YEARS, THE CHURCH HAS OPERATED NUMEROUS PROGRAMS IN SUPPORT OF ITS COMMUNITY OUTREACH. YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE DEACON, YOU'VE HEARD FROM, UM, THE PASTOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH REGARDING THOSE OUTREACH PROGRAMS. AND NOW, TODAY, THEY'VE BEEN CALLED AGAIN BY GOD TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND, UH, FURTHER THEIR, THEIR MINISTRIES. AND THE PRESENT APPLICATION SEEKS TO ALLOW THE CHURCH TO ANSWER THAT CALL. TO THAT END, THE CHURCH'S OUTREACH OUT OUTREACH PROGRAMS AND ITS PURSUIT OF THE PRESENT APPLICATION ARE COMPELLED BY THE CHURCH'S SINCERELY HELD RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. AND THE USE OF THE CHURCH PROPERTY AS A MIGRANT SHELTER IS ESSENTIAL PART OF THE CHURCH'S RELIGIOUS EXERCISE. UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY THING STANDING IN THE WAY OF THE CHURCH BEING ABLE TO EXERCISE THEIR RELIGION WOULD BE A DENIAL BY THE CITY OF THEIR APPLICATION. SO TO THAT END, THIS ENTIRE SITUATION INVOKES A FEDERAL LAW KNOWN AS OUR LUPA IN THIS SLIDE, SORT OF STEALING MY THUNDER, BUT OUR LUPA STANDS FOR THE RELIGIOUS LAND USE PERSON TO ACT. SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT. SO WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, IT'S INFORMED WITH CONSIDERATION OF THIS FEDERAL LAW. UH, FIRST OF ALL, OUR LUPA WAS SIGNED, UH, INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT CLINTON ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2000 AFTER IT PASSED BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT. UH, THE IMPETUS FOR OUR LUPA WAS CONGRESS RECOGNIZING THE NEED TO PROTECT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND THEIR USE OF THEIR PROPERTY. UH, THE DRAFTERS OF OUR LUPA, SENATORS HATCH AND SENATOR KENNEDY, UH, NOTED IN THEIR JOINT STATEMENT THAT, UH, THE NEED FOR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP A PHYSICAL SPACE AT PHYSICAL SPACE ADEQUATE TO THEIR NEEDS AND CONSISTENT WITH THEIR THEOLOGICAL REQUIREMENTS, AND IS AT THE HEART OF OUR LUPA ITSELF. NOW, THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT HAS ALSO, UH, WEIGHED IN ON WHAT OUR LUPA IS AND, AND ITS PURPOSE. AND THEY'VE BASICALLY SAID THAT OUR LUPA WAS ESTABLISHED AND ENACTED TO VERY BROADLY PROTECT RELIGIOUS LIBERTY AND EXERCISES, AND TO DO SO IN A WAY THAT WAS EVEN GREATER THAN THE PROTECTIONS AFFORDED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT. UH, OUR LUPA ACCOMPLISHES THAT OBJECTIVE IN SEVERAL WAYS. NOW, MOST GERMANE TO THE SITUATION THAT WE HAD BEFORE US TODAY IS SOMETHING KNOWN AS THE SUBSTANTIAL BURDEN PROVISION OF OUR LUPA. AND THE, THE PROVISION ITSELF STATES THAT NO GOVERNMENT SHALL IMPOSE OR IMPLEMENT A LAND USE REGULATION IN A MANNER THAT IMPOSES A SUBSTANTIAL BURDEN ON RELIGIOUS EXERCISE UNLESS THE GOVERNMENT JUST DEMONSTRATES A COMPELLING INTEREST AND THAT THEY'RE, UH, SEEKING TO FURTHER THAT INTEREST IN THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE MEANS. NOW, UH, IN DRAFTING RUPPA, CONGRESS ACTUALLY LEFT THE DETERMINATION FOR WHAT A SUBSTANTIAL BURDEN IS TO THE COURTS. AND TO THAT END, UH, THE FIFTH CIRCUIT COURTS, UH, OF THE FEDERAL CIRCUIT, WHICH IS WHERE TEXAS SITS, UM, HAS STATED THAT A SUBSTANTIAL BURDEN IS WHEN A GOVERNMENT ACTION OR REGULATION PRESSURES A CHURCH TO MODIFY [03:35:01] RELIGIOUS BEHAVIOR AND VIOLATE ITS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS IN A SUBSTANTIAL WAY. AND THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN HERE IF THE DE, IF THE CITY DENIES THE APPLICATION YOU HEARD FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH, THEY'RE COMPELLED AND MANDATED BY GOD TO PARTNER WITH VISION QUEST TO OPERATE THIS MIGRANT SHELTER. THIS IS A PART OF THEIR TRULY HELD RELIGIOUS BELIEF. AND IN ORDER TO EXERCISE THEIR RELIGION, THEY NEED APPROVAL FROM THE CITY. AND THIS, IN TURN, IS EVEN FURTHER SUPPORTED BY OUR LUPAS DEFINITION OF RELIGIOUS EXERCISE. UH, AND THE EMPHASIS HERE, I'M NOT GONNA READ THIS, BUT THE EMPHASIS HERE IS THAT THE USE OF THE CHURCH PROPERTY CONSTITUTES AN EXERCISE OF ITS RELIGION UNDER THE VERY DEFINITION OF RELIGIOUS EXERCISE IN OUR LUPA. AND THIS IS WHAT OUR LUPA PROTECTS. FINALLY, OUR LUPA DEMANDS A SHOWING THAT A DENIAL BY THE CITY IS IN FURTHERANCE OF A COMPELLING GOVERNMENT INTEREST, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, AND THAT IT IS THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE MEANS OF FURTHERING THAT INTEREST. DENIAL BY THE CITY WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTED BY EITHER OF THOSE TWO CONSIDERATIONS. SO AT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE RESPECTFULLY URGING THE CITY TO CONSIDER OUR LOOP, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT HERE. AND, UM, WE WOULD SUBMIT THAT THIS CONSIDERATION WOULD COMPEL THE APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION. THIS ISN'T ABOUT MAKING THREATS. THIS IS ABOUT PROVIDING YOU GUYS WITH THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. AND THIS FEDERAL LAW ABSOLUTELY STANDS, UH, ABOVE ALL, ALL OF PROTECTING THE RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES THAT ARE AT PLAY HERE TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. ROTOR. UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE A COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ABSOLUTELY. UH, YES, MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO, TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS THE REASON WHY UNDER THE TEXAS BAR, WE HAVE RULES AGAINST, UH, CLIENTS GETTING LEGAL ADVICE WITHOUT COMING THROUGH OUR OFFICES. FIRST, OBVIOUSLY ANY COMPLIANCE WITH OUR LUPA, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THESE PROCEEDINGS, THAT WOULD COME, THAT, THAT ADVICE WOULD COME FROM MY OFFICE TO COUNSEL. OKAY. AND AS I STATED BEFORE, THE COUNCIL IS DELIBERATING SOLELY ON THE USE, UH, LAND USE AND COMPATIBILITY THEREIN ON THIS DECISION. SO, OKAY, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO, UH, FATIMA MENENDEZ. MS. MENENDEZ, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY JONATHAN RYAN, MAYOR NIERENBERG, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS FATIMA MENENDEZ, AND I'M A LEGISLATIVE ATTORNEY FOR MALDEF, THE MEXICAN AMERICAN LEGAL DEFENSE AND EDUCATIONAL FUND, A NATIONAL CIVIL RIGHTS LAW FIRM. AND I'M HERE TO TESTIFY AGAINST THE ZONING REQUEST BY VISION QUEST TO OPEN AND OPERATE A FOR-PROFIT IMMIGRANT CHILDREN'S DETENTION CENTER. I CURRENTLY LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT I GREW UP IN DISTRICT TWO. MY FAMILY STILL LIVES THERE. MY TESTIMONY FOCUSES ON CONCERNS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY. I SPEAK FROM A LONG HISTORY OF EXPERIENCE WITH THIS TYPE OF FACILITY THAT VISION QUEST SEEKS TO OPEN AND OPERATE. PRIOR TO MY WORK WITH MALDEF, I WORKED AS AN IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY REPRESENTING DETAINED CHILDREN FOR FOUR YEARS. I VISITED MY CLIENTS IN THESE FACILITIES MULTIPLE TIMES PER WEEK. FOR THOSE FOUR YEARS, THE CHILDREN ARE CONTAINED THROUGH VARIOUS SECURITY MEASURES, INCLUDING TALL FENCES, SECURITY CAMERAS, AND BARRED DOORS, AND WINDOWS. VISION QUEST EVEN TESTIFIED BEFORE THE UNIVERSAL CITY CITY COUNCIL THAT THE CHILDREN WOULD BE MONITORED 24 7. ALTHOUGH THE CHILDREN DETAINED IN THESE FACILITIES ARE TYPICALLY AWAITING REUNIFICATION WITH FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES, THE PROCESS CAN TAKE MONTHS AND YEARS. DURING THIS TIME, THE CHILDREN ARE ALLOWED A SHORT PHONE CALL WITH A FAMILY MEMBER ONCE A WEEK AND DENIED ACCESS TO MOST ACTIVITIES THAT CHILDREN NEED TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOPMENTALLY. I HAD SEVERAL CHILDREN ATTEMPT SUICIDE WHILE DETAINED IN THIS TYPE OF FACILITY. PART OF THIS CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE LACK OF SUFFICIENT MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AVAILABLE TO THESE DETAINED CHILDREN. ADDITIONALLY, VISION QUEST PROVIDED STRONG EVIDENCE TODAY THAT THE MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT PROVIDED BY THEM IS INSUFFICIENT VISION. QUEST OUTLINE SERVICES EARLIER IN THEIR, ONE OF THEIR SLIDES, UM, THAT PROVIDED THAT THEY PROVIDE DURING THE FIRST FOUR HOURS AFTER A CHILD IS TRANSFERRED TO ONE OF THEIR DETENTION FACILITIES, WHICH INCLUDE A BATH, A MEAL, ASSIGNMENT OF CLOTHES, CASE MANAGER ASSIGNMENT, AND MEETING PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS, AND AN ORIENTATION. THE TIME ALLOTTED FOR AN INITIAL PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION IS CLEARLY IN INADEQUATE VISION. QUEST HAS A HISTORY OF CHILD ABUSE, BOTH PHYSICAL AND VERBAL BY STAFF AND THEIR FACILITIES. IN 2017, VISION QUEST CLOSED A FACILITY IN PHILADELPHIA AFTER SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS WERE SHOWN TO HAVE PHYSICALLY ABUSED, DETAINED CHILDREN IN THEIR CUSTODY. THESE FACILITIES ALSO CURTAIL THE MENTAL DEVELOPMENT AND EDUCATIONAL ADVANCEMENT OF DETAINED CHILDREN. THIS REALITY COULD WORSEN IF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS SUCCESSFUL IN ITS PROPOSAL TO DETAIN IMMIGRANT CHILDREN FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME. THIS PLAN, ALONG WITH THE PRESIDENT'S RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT, THAT HE WOULD SEEK TO TAKE AWAY RECREATIONAL AND LEGAL AID PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS EDUCATIONAL SERVICES FOR DETAINED IMMIGRANT CHILDREN, PLACES THESE CHILDREN AT AN EVEN GREATER RISK. MALDEF URGES THE CITY COUNCIL TO ACCEPT, TO ACCEPT THE ZONING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO REJECT VISION QUESTS, ZONING REQUESTS. THANK YOU. [03:40:02] THANK YOU, MS. MENENDEZ. I ALSO HAVE, I APOLOGIZE. I ALSO HAVE WRITTEN TESTIMONY THAT I'LL PROVIDE. OKAY, GREAT. IF WE CAN GET THAT TO THE CLERK, WE'LL PUT IT IN THE RECORD. THANK YOU. UM, JONATHAN RYAN, FOLLOWED BY SHARON ALTENDORF. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JONATHAN RYAN, AND I'M AN IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY AND THE C E O OF RAICES, ONE OF THE LARGEST PROVIDERS OF LEGAL DEFENSE TO CHILDREN IN GOVERNMENT CUSTODY IN THE COUNTRY. ON ANY GIVEN DAY, WE ARE WORKING WITH AROUND A THOUSAND CHILDREN WHO ARE DETAINED IN THESE H H S FACILITIES, AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS AROUND THE STATE WHO HAVE BEEN RELEASED. SHOULD VISION QUEST BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE IN THIS CITY? RAICES WILL BECOME AND CONTRACTED TO PROVIDE LEGAL SERVICES. WE ALSO WILL RECEIVE MONEY TO SERVE THE CHILDREN WHO ARE DETAINED AT THE VISION QUEST CENTER. SO, IN SHORT, MUCH LIKE SECOND BAPTIST AND VISION QUEST THEMSELVES, MY ORGANIZATION WILL RECEIVE MONEY IF THIS FACILITY OPENS. HOWEVER, UNLIKE THEM, I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU TO SAY THAT WE DO NOT WANT THIS MONEY, AND WE ADVISE THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS FACILITY. RIGHT NOW, OVER 50,000 PEOPLE ARE HELD IN IMMIGRATION DETENTION, AND OVER 10,000 OF THEM ARE CHILDREN. RAICES SEES ROUGHLY 10% OF THE CHILDREN THAT COME THROUGH THIS SYSTEM IN OUR COUNTRY ANNUALLY. AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO GET THEM OUT AND TO PUT OURSELVES OUT OF A JOB. WE HAVE A DUTY AND A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT AN END TO THE RAPID GROWTH OF THIS BROKEN SYSTEM. HOWEVER, PRIVATE COMPANIES LIKE VISION QUEST HAVE A MOTIVE AND AN INTEREST TO SEE IT GROW AND GROW. LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING ABOUT O R R FACILITIES LIKE VISION QUEST. THEY'RE DETENTION CENTERS, THEY'RE JAILS FOR CHILDREN. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE. THEY WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON THE BRIGHT BED SPREADS AND THE PUSH TO REUNIFY. BUT WE KNOW FROM WORKING INSIDE THESE FACILITIES THAT FOR EVERY CHILD, THERE IS A NICE PROSECUTOR ATTEMPTING TO DEPORT HER OR HIM BACK TO THE DANGEROUS PLACE THEY FLED BEFORE THAT REUNIFICATION CAN TAKE PLACE FROM THE MOMENT THE CHILD ARRIVES, THE RACE IS ON, AND IT IS ON GROUPS LIKE RAICES, NOT VISION QUEST TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN FROM THE COLD MACHINERY OF IMMIGRATION COURT. MOREOVER, WE KNOW NOW THAT THE INFORMATION COLLECTED INSIDE OF THESE FACILITIES IS SHARED WITH ICE AND HAS BEEN USED TO TARGET THE WOULDBE CHILDREN'S SPONSORS FOR ARREST AND DETENTION. THEY GET THE INFORMATION AND THEY GIVE IT TO H H S H H S SHARES IT WITH ICE AND ICE, RUNS IT THROUGH SOFTWARE DEVELOPED BY THE BIGGEST TECH COMPANIES IN THE WORLD FOR THEM. AND THEN THEY GO OUT AND THEY DETAIN AND THEY DEPORT THE SPONSORS. WE'VE SEEN NUMEROUS SO-CALLED SPONSOR RAIDS OCCUR UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION, AND IT HAS DRAMATICALLY DECREASED THE NUMBER OF FAMILY MEMBERS COMING FORWARD TO SPONSOR THEIR RELATIVES. THIS HAS RELEASED, THIS HAS RESULTED IN AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THESE CHILDREN ARE DETAINED AND AN INCREASED NUMBER OF CHILDREN WHO ACTUALLY ASK FOR DEPORTATIONS BECAUSE THEIR FAMILIES ARE SIMPLY TOO AFRAID TO COME FORWARD AND ASK FOR THEM. EVEN IF THEY ARE APPROVED FOR REUNIFICATION, THE FAMILIES OFTEN HAVE TO SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN ORDER TO ARRANGE TRANSPORTATION OF THE CHILDREN. MOREOVER, IF THE PARENT THEMSELVES WALKS UP TO THE DOOR OF THIS FACILITY WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND HOME MOVIES, THEY WILL NOT GIVE THE CHILDREN TO THEIR PARENTS. THEY CANNOT BECAUSE THEY'RE IN JAIL. IT MAY BE LEGAL, OR IN THIS CASE, A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY TO DETAIN CHILDREN AND FORCE FAMILIES TO PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GET THEM BACK. BUT TRUST ME, TO THE FAMILIES THAT THIS IS HAPPENING TO, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING. THEY KNOW A SHAKEDOWN WHEN IT'S HAPPENING TO THEM BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO THEM AT EVERY POINT IN THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RYAN. SHARON AOR, THIS IS ALTENDORF. YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY SELENA GOMEZ. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M SISTER SHARON ALTENDORF, AND THIS IS SISTER DENISE LAUREN. UM, I'M IN DISTRICT FIVE, BUT WE ARE REPRESENTING THE INTERFAITH WELCOME COALITION. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO TELL YOU A BIT MORE ABOUT OUR VALUES OR OUR DIRECTIONS. WE ARE JUST HERE TO STATE ALONGSIDE OF SA STANDS, WHICH WE ARE CORE MEMBERS OF. ALSO THAT WE AGREE WITH THE ZONING COMMISSION AND WITH YOUR STAFF IN DENYING THIS ZONING CHANGE. WE APPRECIATE WE RESPECT THE SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH. WE ARE AN INTERFAITH GROUP. WE HAVE NOTHING AGAINST CHURCHES. OUR TROUBLE IS WITH VISION QUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SISTERS. SELENA GOMEZ. MS. GOMEZ, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY JESSE MANIAS. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, ALL. MY NAME IS SELENA GOMEZ. I RESIDE IN DISTRICT FOUR, AND MY FAMILY LIVES IN DISTRICT TWO. THE FIRST POINT THAT I WANNA MAKE TODAY IS THAT WE'RE NOT HERE AGAINST THE SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH. THIS IS US BEING AGAINST VISION QUEST AND ALLOWING THEM TO BUILD THIS FACILITY FOR THE CHILDREN. BUT I DO WANNA MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP EARLIER IN SOME OF THE TESTIMONIES. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHILD ABUSE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE EXAGGERATING. IF THERE'S [03:45:01] ONLY ONE CASE OF A CHILD BEING ABUSED, THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME TO UPLIFT IT, HIGHLIGHT IT, AND BE CONCERNED OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, TAKING CARE OF THESE CHILDREN. ALSO, AS YOU'VE HEARD, AND YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM LEGAL EXPERTS AS WELL AS COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS, IT'S NOT AS EASY AS TAKING CARE OF THE CHILDREN UNTIL THEIR PARENTS COME AND PICK THEM UP BECAUSE OF OFTENTIMES THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER CITIES AND THERE'S OTHER OTHER STATES THAT HAVE REFUSED TO ALLOW THESE CONTRACTS WITH VISION QUEST BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY PROGRAM PROBLEMATIC, JUST LIKE IN NEW MEXICO AND PHILADELPHIA. AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE A WELCOMING CITY, AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AND FOR US TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. NOW, AGAIN, THIS ISN'T US ATTACKING SECOND BAPTIST CHURCH. ON THE CONTRARY, WE INVITE THEM TO COME AND TO JOIN US IN HELPING THESE CHILDREN WITH ESSAY STANDS AND ALL OF THE GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE LOOKING TO ACTUALLY HELP THESE CHILDREN BE UNIFIED WITH THEIR FAMILY OR BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF, OF RELIEF. BUT I URGE YOU TODAY TO JUST DO THE RIGHT THING. PLEASE, I URGE YOU TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THIS ZONING COMMISSION AND TO VOTE AGAINST THIS ZONING REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. GOMEZ. JESSE, CIA, MR. MANIA, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY GERALD BILLS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME IS JESSE MANIA. I AM, UH, CARRIZO INDIAN. AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF. I, UH, RETIRED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. I WORKED IN HIGHER EDUCATION IN TWO DIFFERENT UNIVERSITIES. UH, MY BACKGROUND, I SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS. I HAVE TWO PURPLE HEARTS. I FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM, A FREEDOM THAT I THINK IS BEING DENIED BY THIS ORGANIZATION AND THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE ADVOCATING FOR SUCH A, UH, SUCH A THING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. I'M HUMBLED TODAY TO FOLLOW THE ELOQUENT PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKEN HERE TODAY. UH, I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE ANY PRETTY PICTURES OF A BUNCH OF WHITE GUYS WITH SUITS ON, BUT I'M, I'LL JUST TELL YOU WHAT I, WHAT'S IN MY HEART. AM HERE BECAUSE I FEEL THAT NO CHILD SHOULD BE SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS. NO CHILD BELONGS IN A PRISON. VISION QUEST IS, IS BASED IN ARIZONA. IT HAS A LONG HISTORY OF MISTREATMENT AND DETENTION OF CHILDREN, INNOCENT CHILDREN. IN 1984, A YOUNG PERSON DIED IN ITS CARE, SAN DIEGO. UH, IN THE SAN DIEGO FACILITY, THE COUNTY SUSPENDED REFERRALS FOR A YEAR. SAN DIEGO PROBATION DEPARTMENT REPORTED CASES OF PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION AND STAFF, AS WELL AS HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES. IN 1994, THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAD CASES OF PHYSICAL AND MENTAL ABUSE IN FRANKLIN, PENNSYLVANIA. AS LATE AS 2017, VISION QUEST WAS FOUND TO, WAS FORCED TO CLOSE ITS FACILITIES IN PHILADELPHIA. I'M HEARING THAT THIS ORGANIZATION DOESN'T, IS NOT A, A DETENTION CENTER. A SHELTER STOPS BEING A SHELTER AND BECOMES A PRISON WHEN IT DETAINS CHILDREN AGAINST THEIR WILL. I ASK THAT YOU LOOK INTO YOUR HEARTS AND SEE THIS MATTER FOR WHAT IT IS. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY BOWLING ALLEYS YOU HAVE IN YOUR FACILITY. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY FREE LUNCHES YOU GIVE, IF IT'S, IF YOU'RE INCARCERATING CHILDREN AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE, IT'S A PRISON. THANK YOU, MR. MENCIA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GERALD BILLS, MR. BILLS, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY JAMES MCKNIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, UH, LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I SAID SOME STUFF THAT WAS PRETTY CRITICAL, AND I DON'T TAKE THAT BACK, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK [03:50:01] THAT I'M, UH, JUST BEING NEGATIVE. UM, I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY TO STAND HERE AND, AND, AND I, I GENUINE BELIEVE THAT, UH, MOST OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS COUNCIL ARE GONNA DO THE RIGHT THING AND VOTE AGAINST THIS. SO, I'M, I ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THAT. UM, WOW, THERE'S SO MUCH TO SAY. I WISH, I WISH I HAD MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. UM, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, VISION QUEST AND, UM, THE, THEIR HORRIBLE HISTORY OF ABUSE. UM, I, I THINK IF, IF, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN CONVINCED ALREADY, UM, I DON'T THINK I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO CONVINCE YOU. SO I KIND OF WANT TO TAKE A DIFFERENT ANGLE. UM, AND I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN UNIVERSAL CITY VERY RECENTLY. THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY AGAINST THIS. RESIDENTS WERE OPPOSED TO IT. THE ZONING COMMISSION WAS OPPOSED TO IT. THE CITY COUNCIL WAS OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE THEY KNEW THIS WAS BAD FOR THEIR CITY. IF THIS IS BAD FOR UNIVERSAL CITY, WHY IS IT GOOD FOR SAN ANTONIO? WHY IS IT GOOD FOR THE EAST SIDE? I WANT YOU TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK. IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING VOTING TO APPROVE THIS, I WANT YOU TO ASK YOURSELF, THINK ABOUT THE RICHEST WHITEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN YOUR DISTRICT. IF VISION QUEST WAS TRYING TO SET UP THERE, WOULD YOU ALLOW IT? IF YOU WOULDN'T ALLOW IT THERE, WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW IT ON THE EAST SIDE? SO WHAT IF YOU'RE GONNA, IF YOU'RE GOING TO, UM, VOTE TO ALLOW THIS REZONING, I WANT YOU TO GO ON THE RECORD AND SAY THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW THIS IN THE RICHEST, WHITEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN YOUR DISTRICT. OTHERWISE, YOU'RE JUST PART OF A LONG AND RA AND, UH, RACIST AND CLASSIST HISTORY IN THIS CITY AND CITIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY OF DUMPING ON POOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR PROJECTS, NO RICH OR MIDDLE CLASS INCOME, MIDDLE INCOME, WHITE COMMUNITY WOULD EVER ALLOW IN THEIRS. AND I'M SAYING THAT NOT BECAUSE THE KIDS WILL BE BAD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HUMAN BEINGS ARE NOT BAD FOR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT BECAUSE PRISONS ARE BAD FOR NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE IN THEM, BUT BECAUSE OF THE, THE NATURE OF THE, THE FACILITY ITSELF. THIS IS BAD FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, THE FACT THAT THIS, THIS IS A PRISON HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED. UM, ONE EXAMPLE THAT I THOUGHT OF IS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS A KID AT THIS FACILITY GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK UP TO A GARDEN AND BE LIKE, HEY, I WANNA GO SEE A MOVIE WITH MY FRIENDS. AND THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE A TEENAGER, UM, WHAT, WHAT YOUR PARENTS' RESPONSE WOULD'VE BEEN TO THAT. NOW, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT, BUT MY PARENTS WERE PRETTY STRICT. I GREW UP IN A VERY STRICT MORMON FAMILY. EVEN THEY LET ME GO SEE A MOVIE WITH MY FRIENDS FROM TIME TO TIME. THESE KIDS AREN'T GONNA BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. THIS IS A PRISON. UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BILLS. JAMES MCKNIGHT, FOLLOWED BY KEN BROWN. MR. MCKNIGHT, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU. IF I COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP. THANK YOU. AND OH, I SEE. OKAY. I NEED TO GET BACK TO MY SLIDES. UM, SO I'M HERE TO, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT WHAT VISION QUEST DOES AND WHO THEY ARE, BUT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT LAND USE ISSUES. DO YOU KNOW WHAT NUMBER YOU WANT TO START ON? WHICH LINE? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHICH NUMBER. IT'S, UH, IS THIS THE ONE THAT'S THE FIR NO, THIS IS THE FIRST, RIGHT? THAT'S THE FIRST. SO ONE, YEAH, CHOOSE 2, 3, 4, 5. SO SELECT TWO. OKAY. SO THE VISUALS SHOULD BE COMING UP SOON, BUT, UM, I WANNA LAY OUT THE LOT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY YET. WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE LAND USE ON THIS LAND USE CASE. THE ZONING. AND WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS A CHURCH ON A FIVE ACRE LOT. YOU'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY ON ONE SIDE. YOU'VE GOT MULTIFAMILY ON ANOTHER. YOU'VE GOT A INDUSTRIAL USES ACROSS THE STREET. THERE WE GO. NOW I CAN ACTUALLY GET TO IT. IT'S GONNA BE COMPELLING. OKAY. SO THE SLIDE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION HERE. WE'VE GOT AN EXISTING 45,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT HAS A BOWLING ALLEY, HAS A BASKETBALL COURT, IT HAS CLASSROOMS UPSTAIRS. IT HAS CLASSROOMS DOWNSTAIRS. IT HAS OFFICES BUILT IN. ALL OF THESE FACILITIES ARE THERE. WE'VE GOT THE CHURCH PARKING LOT AND WE'VE GOT, UM, MULTIFAMILY NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH. THE SLIDE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE ZONING, THAT'S ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. IT'S A MIXED USE DISTRICT ALLOWING COMMERCIAL USES HOUSING UP TO 40 UNITS AN ACRE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. THIS IS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ON A PRIMARY ARTERIAL ROAD. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A COMMERCIAL USE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR [03:55:01] ON A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE APPROVAL CRITERIA THAT YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL ARE LOOKING AT. SOME OF THE ONES THAT I WANNA POINT OUT, CONSISTENCY, MAYOR NURNBERG, YOU POINTED OUT YOURSELF. CONSISTENCY, NO ADVERSE IMPACTS AND A PUBLIC NEED. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE AS WELL. BUT HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS, THE, THE USE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, IT'S A COMMERCIAL USE. IT'S PERMITTED IN C THREE AND D ONLY COMMERCIAL USE. THE SITE, AS I POINTED OUT BEFORE, IS ON A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. THE CONSISTENCY IS THERE. THE USES THAT WE'RE REQUESTING. UM, CHRIS SHOWED HIM HIS SLIDES. A FEW OF THEM ARE HERE. HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, RECREATIONAL USES, AND HOUSING. ALL OF THOSE USES ARE ALLOWED IN A E THREE. RIGHT NOW, AS I'VE SAID, THE EXISTING FACILITY PERFORMING MANY OF THESE USES ALREADY. SO WHAT WE'RE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE ASKING FOR ARE ALREADY DONE IN THE BUILDING ON THIS SITE? AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC NEED, THE VISION QUEST HAS STATED IT. SECOND BAPTIST HAS STATED THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS. THESE KEY, THESE KIDS NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE. THEY GET DETAINED AT THE BORDER AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM INTO A HOME, A FOSTER HOME, OR THEIR FAMILY. THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS. AND THERE AREN'T MANY FACILITIES THAT ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE THIS NEED. WE'RE HERE, WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE THAT NEED. THERE IS A PUBLIC NEED THAT IS ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT TO APPROVE ZONING. NO NEW CONSTRUCTION, NO ADVERSE IMPACTS. THE ONLY CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON IS THE MOVEMENT OF THE WALLS UPSTAIRS TO TURN THOSE CLASSROOMS INTO DORM ROOMS, ESSENTIALLY. DORM ROOMS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO NOTE THAT GOING FROM A E THREE TO THE C TWO BASE DISTRICT IS A DOWN ZONING. IF YOU OVERLAP THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN A E THREE AND C TWO, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT THEY MATCH EXCEPT FOR A FEW OUTLIERS. AND THOSE OUTLIERS ARE ALL MORE INTENSE IN A E THREE. SO THIS IS A DOWN ZONING. IF WE LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT, UH, THIS IS THE, FROM THE STAFF REPORT, THIS IS, UH, THE SITE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED. UM, WHAT THEY, WHAT WHAT THE STAFF HAS TOLD US ABOUT OUR PROJECT IS LI LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. DUE TO THE INTENSITY OF THE COMMERCIAL USE ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT APPROPRIATE, APPROPRIATE BUFFERS. MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT INTENSITY? WE'VE GOT 90 BOYS. THERE ARE NO GIRLS IN THIS FACILITY, 90 BOYS THAT ARE GONNA BE SLEEPING UPSTAIRS, THAT ARE GONNA BE USING A BASKETBALL COURT AND POSSIBLY BOWLING. WHERE'S THE INTENSITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WE HAVE 90 TO A HUNDRED STAFF THAT COME OUT IN THREE DIFFERENT SHIFTS. WHERE'S THE INTENSITY? WE ALREADY HAVE A FACILITY THAT'S BEING USED FOR THOSE USES. WE'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING. THE OTHER PART ABOUT IMPACTING THE, THE NEIGHBORING LANDS, THE, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SOUTH OF US THAT ARE DIRECTLY SOUTH OF US, THOSE ARE ALL OWNED BY THE CHURCH. IT'S THE CHURCH'S LAND. THEY'RE NOT IMPACTED AS FAR AS BUFFERS. WE CAN PUT A BUFFER IN. IT'S NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ALLEY BEHIND US. BUT IF YOU WANT TO ASK FOR BUFFER, WE CAN PUT IN A BUFFER. WE CAN ADDRESS STAFF'S CONCERNS EASILY. I WANNA COMPARE US TO ANOTHER CASE, A HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS USE THAT WAS APPROVED JUST LAST MONTH. STAFF ZONING COMMISSION. CITY COUNCIL, ALL APPROVED THIS ON 47 0 1 DIETRICH ROAD. THIS WAS AN INDUSTRIAL SITE NEXT TO MULTIFAMILY, NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY ON A SMALL COLLECTOR ROAD. THIS WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. THE PROPOSED C THREE S IS A DOWN ZONING OF CURRENT I ONE. ADDITIONALLY, THE SITE PLAN HOLDS THE APPLICANT TO A SPECIFIC LAYOUT. SITE LAYOUT LIMITS MANY OF THE ACTIVITIES, THE INTERIOR OF THIS LARGE SITE. OKAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DOWN ZONING FOR OURS AS WELL. AND WE'RE LIMITING OUR ACTIVITIES TO AN EXISTING BUILDING. SO IF THIS WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT OUR CASE? THE PROPOSED C THREE S GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA ACROSS THE STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL, AS IT ALLOWS LESS POTENTIALLY HARMFUL USES THAN I ONE. WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO, WE HAVE AN ALLEY BETWEEN US, NOT MUCH SMALLER THAN THE SIZE OF DIETRICH ROAD THERE, UM, WHICH IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HOUSE THAT KIND OF INTENSITY YET. IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AND THE SINGLE FAMILY USE THAT'S RIGHT THERE IS ALL OWNED BY US. WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT THIS IS A, A REALLY APT COMPARISON AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL ALL THE WAY IN, WHICH TELLS ME THAT IT WAS NOT LOOKED AT FOR LAND USE ISSUES. LAST THING I WANNA DO IS JUST SHOW A SLIDE OF THE FACILITY FROM THIS ANGLE, JUST SO THAT'S IT. THIS IS ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 90 BOYS SLEEPING UPSTAIRS, PLAYING BASKETBALL, AND GOING INTO A CLASSROOM. THIS IS NOT AN INTENSE USE. THIS IS AN EXISTING FACILITY THAT'S HERE TO STAY AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. I ASK FOR YOU TO APPROVE THE ZONING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. MCKNIGHT. KEN BROWN, FOLLOWED BY KATIE MEDA. I, OKAY. UM, MR. MCKNIGHT, DID YOU WANT KEN BROWN'S? UH, MINUTES. OKAY. KATIE MEDA, [04:00:05] GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KATIE MEZA AND I'M HERE AS A MEMBER OF SA STANDS AND OF THE TEXAS ORGANIZING PROJECT, UM, TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE EXCEPTIONS TO THE MASTER PLAN. UM, AND RECOMMENDATIONS BY, ESPECIALLY WITH A RECOMMENDATION BY THE ZONING COMMISSION, SHOULD BE MADE ONLY IN CASES, UM, THAT HAVE A STRONG REASON TO SHOW THAT IT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS FACILITY WILL NOT DO THAT, UM, AND THEREFORE DOES NOT MERIT SUCH AN EXCEPTION. UM, VISION QUEST HAS SAID THAT THE CHILDREN THAT WILL BE HOUSED IN THIS FACILITY WILL NOT, ARE NOT SEPARATED, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NO WAY TO TELL THAT THAT IS THE CASE. UH, CHILDREN THAT ARE ARRIVE AT OUR BORDER ARE PUT INTO OFFICE OF REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT CUSTODY, UM, ARE OFTEN SEPARATED. AND I'VE WORKED WITH THEIR AUNTS, THEIR GRANDMOTHERS, THEIR ADOPTED MOTHERS, UM, WHO MAY NOT BE CONSIDERED THE OFFICIAL PARENT AT THE BORDER. UM, WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT IMMIGRATION POLICY, BUT WE CAN, UH, DECIDE WHAT KIND OF FACILITY WE ALLOW IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THERE'S TWO REGIONS THAT VISION VISIONQUEST SHOULD NOT BE THE TYPE OF COMPANY THAT WE ALLOW, UM, TO HAVE SUCH A FACILITY, GIVEN THAT THOSE FACILITIES WILL EXIST FOR. NOW, FIRST OF ALL, YOU'VE HEARD THEIR LONG HISTORY OF CHILD ABUSE. AND SECOND, UM, MOST O R R FACILITIES ARE NON-PROFIT. UM, VISIONQUEST HAS SAID THAT BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACT STRUCTURE, THE THEIR FOR-PROFIT NATURE WILL NOT AFFECT THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE TO CHILDREN. UM, BUT EVEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, WHICH WE DOUBT, UM, SAN ANTONIO SHOULD NOT BE PART OF A GROWING, UH, THE BEGINNING OF A MOVEMENT TO SWITCH THESE FACILITIES TO FOR-PROFIT COMPANIES. UM, AS MR. RYAN STATED, UH, THIS INCENTIVIZES THE GROWTH OF THE DETENTION OF CHILDREN, UM, OR THE CUSTODY OF CHILDREN, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE IT. UM, AND THE MORE FOR-PROFIT FACILITIES, EVEN IF THERE'S ONE THAT HAS GOOD INTENTIONS, UM, WHICH AGAIN, WE DOUBT, UM, WOULD, UH, CHANGE THE SYSTEM IN, IN A NEGATIVE WAY IN THE LONG TERM. UM, THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF TRUST. UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THEIR COMMUNITY WHO WANT TO HAVE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE ON THESE CHILDREN, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT HOW OR R FACILITIES WORK. UM, THE CHILDREN WILL HAVE ALMOST NO, UM, INTERACTION WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, EVEN IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE A POSITIVE, UH, INFLUENCE. UM, AND, UH, SO, UH, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND, UM, PLEASE, UM, DO, DO NOT MAKE AN EXCEPTION IN THIS CASE AS IT WOULD NOT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. MIRZA. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. MOTION TO DENY BASED ON ZONING. OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION. DID I HEAR A SECOND FOR DENIAL OF ITEM? WHICH ITEM ARE WE ON? Z 12? YES SIR. IS THERE A SECOND? OH, OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DENIAL OF ITEM Z 12. UH, JUST TO BE CLEAR, A YAY VOTE IS TO SUPPORT DENIAL OF THE ITEM. A NAY VOTE WOULD BE TO, UH, APPROVE THE ITEM. SO A YAY VOTE IS TO VOTE WITH A MOTION TO DENY. SO THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY ITEM Z 12, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, WE'LL MOVE ON [Z-18. 19-8543 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700251 (Council District 5): Ordinance amending the Zoning District Boundary from "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-2 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in “MF-33” Multi-Family District on Lot 8 and the northeast 11.05 feet of Lot 9, Block 3, NCB 2230, located at 1128 Morales Street. Staff recommends Denial, with Alternate Recommendation. Zoning Commission recommends Approval.] NOW TO ITEM Z 18. Z 18 FROM R FOUR TO I D Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED AN MF 33 LOCATED AT 1128 MORALES STREET. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION. ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. 43 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR. ZERO OPPOSED. GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. OKAY. UH, MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM Z 18. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES ITEM [Z-25. 19-7506 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700146 (Council District 10): Ordinance amending the Zoning District Boundary from “I-1 AHOD” General Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to “L AHOD” Light Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 14, Block 4, NCB 12574, located at 9010 Tesoro Drive. Staff recommends Approval. Zoning Commission recommends Denial for lack of a motion.] Z 25 Z 25 FROM I ONE TO L LOCATED AT 90 10. TESORO DRIVES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS DENIAL FOR A LACK OF [04:05:01] A MOTION. EIGHT NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR FOR OPPOSED, ONE OPPOSED OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY. AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO JANUARY 16TH. OKAY. THIS ITEM IS A DISTRICT 10 ITEM. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT REPRESENTATIVE SEATED. UM, OKAY. UH, ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR ITEM Z 25. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YES, I'D LIKE TO, UH, MOTION TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER 16TH. I'M SORRY. JANUARY. JANUARY 16TH. THANK YOU. YES. OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION. WAS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM Z 25 TO JANUARY 16TH. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, THAT IS THE BALANCE OF OUR, UH, ZONING AGENDA TODAY. HAVE A WONDERFUL AFTERNOON. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.