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GOOD AFTERNOON

[1. 19-8969 Briefing on the FY2020 Affordable Housing Strategy. [Lori Houston, Assistant City Manager; Verónica R. Soto, Director, Neighborhood and Housing Services]]

EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL B SESSION.

THE TIME IS 2:17 PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

WE DO HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

UH, WE'LL START WITH A BRIEFING ON OUR 2020 AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGY.

SO I'LL RECOGNIZE NOW OUR CITY MANAGER, ERIC WALSH.

MAYOR, AT THIS TIME I'LL, UH, CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL COUNCIL MEMBER VINNO HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER CAVEO HDA.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS.

COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE WILL NOT BE HERE, BUT HE DID INDICATE HE MAY WALK IN LATE.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE AND MAYOR NUREMBERG HERE.

MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS ERIC WALSH.

I HAVEN'T SEEN SOME OF YOU IN THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF, AND I'M THE CITY MANAGER.

WE'VE GOT TWO ITEMS ON TODAY'S, UH, PRESENTATION.

UM, THE FIRST IS AN ITEM, UH, A PRESENTATION BY, UH, LORI HOUSTON AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND VETO ON THE 2020 AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGY.

UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE HOUSING POLICY FRAMEWORK IN 2018.

UM, THE, THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY A PRIORITY OF THE COUNCIL AND, UH, RENEWED THIS YEAR IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

UH, THIS YEAR'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUDGET INCLUDES $9.9 MILLION THAT'S LEVERAGED FROM OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, UH, FROM AND INCLUDING OUR HOUSING PARTNERS AND SEVERAL, UH, CITY INITIATED TURS.

UH, AS A REMINDER, WE'VE GOT, UH, $35 MILLION IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, ALMOST $35 MILLION.

AND TODAY'S PRESENTATION, UH, WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE WORK TO BE DONE, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, IN THE AREAS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, TO INCLUDE PROGRAMS LIKE OUR RISK MITIGATION FUND THAT HELPS KEEP FAMILIES HOUSED WHEN FACING EVICTION.

IN ATTENDANCE TODAY, AND I WANNA THANK THEM FROM BEING HERE ARE MANY OF OUR PARTNERS, UH, INCLUDING THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST, LISC SAN ANTONIO, UH, THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE SOUTH ALAMO REGIONAL ALLIANCE FOR THE HOMELESSNESS.

EACH REPRESENTING A UNIQUE PART OF OUR, UH, HOUSING CONTINUUM.

WE ALSO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION HERE, UH, WHO HAVE FRANKLY DEDICATED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME OVER, OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, UM, AND ENERGY OVERSEEING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT FRAMEWORK.

SO I WANTED TO THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE.

AND I'LL JUST ADD IS, ALTHOUGH NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION, THAT ANOTHER CRITICAL COMPONENT THAT, UH, THAT I ANNOUNCED, UH, SUMMER, DURING THE SUMMER WAS CONVERTING AN EXISTING POSITION INTO THE CREATION OF A CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER.

UM, WE ARE, UM, CURRENTLY ACTIVELY RECRUITING FOR THAT POSITION.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, BEFORE, UH, ADVERTISING AND RECRUITING, UH, WE CONDUCTED A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY INTERVIEWS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE DEVELOPING THE RIGHT TYPE OF JOB DESCRIPTION AND IDENTIFYING THE TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL WITH THE TYPE OF EXPERIENCE WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

UM, AND, UH, THAT, THAT WORK IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW.

I HOPE TO RECEIVE A LIST FROM THE RECRUITER, UH, BY JANUARY AND THEN START MOVING ON IT PRETTY QUICKLY.

SO THE SECOND ITEM, UH, JUST UH, AT THE END AND WE'LL BREAK AFTER THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS RELATED, UM, UH, DONOVAN, UH, KUMA, UM, THE PRINCIPAL FROM PLACE ECONOMICS FROM DC UM, UH, HAS RECENTLY COMPLETED A STUDY COMMISSIONED BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WHICH EXAMINES THE OLDER AND AGING HOUSING STOCK AND HOW THAT RELATES TO OUR, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEMANDS.

SO, UH, DON AND UH, SHANNON MILLER AND LORI WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ALL THE RELATED QUESTIONS AT THE END.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO LORI.

THANK YOU ERIC.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS A BRIEFING ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET AND AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE IN OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED IN THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE FRAMEWORK THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN AUGUST OF 2018.

THE FRAMEWORK IDENTIFIED KEY ACTIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN ORDER FOR US TO MEET THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS IN SAN ANTONIO.

THE FRAMEWORK WAS DEVELOPED BY THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE AFTER AN 11 MONTH ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

AND STAFF HAS PROVIDED EACH OF YOU A COPY OF THAT FRAMEWORK.

IN ADDITION TO THE FRAMEWORK IN THAT, IF YOU LIFT THE FRONT COVER, THERE ARE SEVERAL DOCUMENTS IN THERE TO INCLUDE THE LIST OF OUR PIPELINE.

AND THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW ARE GOING TO BE CLOSING OR HAVE ALREADY CLOSED THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING OVER THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS.

AND THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS.

THE FIRST PART OF MY PRESENTATION WILL HIGHLIGHT THE STATUS OF SEVERAL PROGRAMS AND STRATEGIES THAT THE CITY AND

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OUR HOUSING PARTNERS ARE ADMINISTERING TO MEET OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS.

AND THEN I'LL CONCLUDE WITH A HIGHLIGHT OF SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY AND AN OVERVIEW OF OUR PIPELINE.

AND, BUT BEFORE I START, I REALLY WANNA THANK SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE, IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY THAT HAVE REALLY HELPED MAKE THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING EFFORT A REALITY.

WE CAN'T DO THIS ALONE.

AND I WANNA SPECIFICALLY THANK LORDES CAS RAMIREZ WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION AND DR.

PAUL KOWA, WHO IS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION.

WE HAVE DA DAVID EK WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND TIM ALCOTT WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WHO JOINED US TODAY.

LELA POWELL, WHO'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNER WITH LISC.

WE ALSO HAVE MICHAEL TAYLOR AND MICHAEL SHACKLEFORD.

MICHAEL TAYLOR REPRESENTS HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, UM, WHO'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNER IN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENT AND MICHAEL SHACKLEFORD WITH ALAMO COMMUNITY GROUP THAT'S DOING SOME GREAT HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAMS THAT WILL MEET OUR 30% TAX CREDIT NEEDS.

BRENDA MASCARA WITH THE SOUTH ALAMO REGIONAL ALLIANCE FOR HOMELESSNESS IS HERE.

AND THEN JIM BAILEY.

JIM BAILEY WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSING TASK FORCE THAT THE MAYOR APPOINTED, BUT CURRENTLY SERVES AS ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS FOR THE REMOVING BARRIERS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE THAT'S CURRENTLY REVIEWING THE U D C TO IDENTIFY HOW WE CAN HELP FACILITATE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SAN ANTONIO.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CHA GUZMAN, WHO'S A NEWLY APPOINTED BOARD MEMBER TO THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY.

AND I THINK I NOTICED RICH RICHARD ACOSTA IN HERE WHO'S WITH ME, C UD DADES MIKASA, WHO'S ALSO BEEN A GREAT PARTNER WITH US DURING THIS EFFORT.

BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL COMMITTEE, WHICH IS LED BY COUNCILMAN SHIRLEY GONZALEZ, WHO ALSO HEARS A LOT OF THESE POLICIES AND ITEMS THAT WE BRING FORWARD THAT HELP US IMPLEMENT THE HOUSING FRAMEWORK PLAN.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.

IT IS A TEAM EFFORT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT AN EASY PROBLEM TO FIX AND IT'S ONLY GONNA BE THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY AND THESE COORDINATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA GET SOMEWHERE WITH IT.

SO WHEN WE FIRST ADOPTED THE HOUSING PLAN, WHICH ACTUALLY WAS ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN AUGUST OF 2018, THE CITY IMMEDIATELY STARTED TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN.

THEY DID THIS THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 BUDGET THAT INCLUDED $26.1 MILLION IN FUNDING.

THE MAJORITY OF THAT FUNDING CAME FROM GRANTS, OUR FEDERAL GRANTS, C D B G AND HOME AND THEN THE GENERAL FUND.

WE ALSO RECEIVED A DONATION FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM.

AND THEN THE HOUSING PARTNERS DONATION OF $2 MILLION FROM THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST THAT ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM.

THESE FUNDS WENT TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS AND EXPAND PROGRAMS LIKE OUR INFILL HOUSING PROGRAM, OUR PRESERVATION PROGRAMS FOR THE MINOR REPAIR OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WENT TO EXPAND OUR STAFF CAPACITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

SO WE SPENT THE FIRST PART OF FISCAL YEAR 2019 ORGANIZING AND HOW WE COULD IMPLEMENT THE FRAMEWORK THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND CREATED BY THAT HOUSING TASK FORCE.

SOMETHING THAT ALSO HAPPENED IN FISCAL YEAR 2019 WAS THE REINSTATEMENT OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY LED BY LORDES CASTRO RAMIREZ.

AND THEN WE ALSO CREATED A COMMITTEE THROUGH THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT TO HELP US IDENTIFY BARRIERS TO HOUSING PRODUCTION.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT IS BEING LED BY JIM BAILEY.

NOW IN FISCAL YEAR 2020, WE INCREASED THAT BUDGET BY $9 MILLION TO $35 MILLION.

AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE THERE IS WE IDENTIFIED ADDITIONAL FUNDINGS THROUGH OUR HOUSING PARTNER.

SO THE HOUSING TRUST AGAIN COMMITTED $2 MILLION FOR THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM.

SAHA COMMITTED FUNDING TO HELP WITH SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGIES.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD LISC COME TO THE TABLE AS A PARTNER TO HELP US CREATE A LOAN FUND FOR OUR INFILL REHAB AND NEW CONSTRUCTION PROGRAMS. AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE IDENTIFIED FIVE CITY INITIATED TURS TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THIS BUDGET.

AND THAT TOTALED $6.2 MILLION TO HELP US WITH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS. AND AS OF TODAY, WITH THE WEST SIDE TOURS ADOPTION, ALL FIVE TOURS HAVE APPROVED THE FUNDING, WHICH TOTALED $6.2 MILLION.

THAT WILL HELP US WITH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020.

ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET, UM, WHICH I FAILED TO MENTION, WAS A PRIORITY OF THE CITY MANAGERS, WHICH WAS THE CREATION OF THE CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER POSITION.

ERIC ALLUDED TO THAT EARLIER THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR THAT POSITION AND THAT POSITION WAS SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED IN THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY FRAMEWORK AS A STRATEGY, A KEY STRATEGY TO HELP US WITH THE COORDINATION EFFORTS.

NOW, ONE OF OUR RECENT COUNCIL MEETINGS, COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ, ASKED FOR A BUDGET THAT OUTLINED HOW THAT $35 MILLION WAS GOING TO BE SPENT.

AND HERE YOU'LL SEE ALL THE PROGRAMS INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN AND THE SOURCES OF FUNDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT PLAN.

THE MAJORITY OF THE BUDGET IS GOING TOWARDS INFILL HOUSING

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FOR NEW AND REHAB OF HOUSING FOR AFFORDABILITY GAP FINANCING, OUR OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM AND THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM.

NOW THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 GOALS AND THESE REFLECT WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE FRAMEWORK PLAN FOCUS ON ENHANCING OUR COORDINATED HOUSING SYSTEM, PROTECTING AND PRESERVING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, DEVELOPING STRATEGIES AND TOOLS THAT FACILITATE SUSTAINABLE HOME OWNERSHIP AND FUTURE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND INCREASING OWNER OCCUPIED AND RENTAL OCCUPIED HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.

I'M GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE GOALS AND IDENTIFY SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT HELP US MEET THESE GOALS.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE ENHANCEMENT OF THE COORDINATED HOUSING SYSTEM.

THE FRAMEWORK PLAN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED THIS AS A KEY ACTION PLAN IN ORDER FOR US TO MEET OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS.

ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST.

WE COMPLETED THAT ASSESSMENT, IT WAS PERFORMED BY NCA AND WHAT THE ASSESSMENT RECOMMENDED WAS TO CREATE SOME POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE PROCUREMENT OF CONSULTING SERVICES IN THEIR GENERAL COUNSEL.

IT REQUESTED THAT WE FOCUS ON ENHANCING THE TRANSPARENCY IN THE OUTREACH OF THE HOUSING TRUST EFFORTS.

ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT WE INITIATE THE RECRUITMENT OF AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE HOUSING TRUST.

AND THEN IT MADE SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THE REGULATORY BODIES THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE HOUSING TRUST.

WE HAD THE PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION AND THE FACILITIES CORPORATION THAT IS YARON.

WE ALSO HAVE THE HOUSING TRUST FOUNDATION AND THEN WE HAVE THE HOUSING TRUST ITSELF.

WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALIGNED ALL OF THOSE TO ENSURE THEY'RE GOING TOWARDS THE SAME GOAL AND THEY'RE COORDINATED TO BETTER STREAMLINE THOSE EFFORTS.

NOW PETE ALANIS, WHO IS HERE WITH ME TODAY, HE IS SERVING AS THE INTERIM EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSING TRUST.

AND HE IS WORKING DILIGENTLY ON DOING THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, INCREASING THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE OUTREACH.

BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH EACH OF THE BODIES, PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION, THE FACILITIES CORPORATION, AND THE HOUSING TRUST FOUNDATION TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS REGULATORY RECOMMENDATION RIGHT.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, EACH OF THE CHAIRS AND THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THOSE, UM, COMMITTEES UNDERSTAND THEIR ROLE AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE ROLES OF EACH BODY AND THEY ARE ALL COORDINATED AND UNDERSTAND WHAT EACH ENTITY IS DOING.

ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO ENHANCE THE COORDINATION IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A RESIDENTIALS NEEDS ASSESSMENT TRAINING CURRICULUM.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN MEETING FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS EVERY OTHER WEEK WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED IN HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.

AND WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS MOST OF THESE, UM, DEPARTMENTS HAVE STAFF THAT GO INTO HOMES AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SOME OF 'EM HAVE TRAINING ON HOW TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

SO MAYBE A RESIDENT COULD TAKE AND MAKE, UM, HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE THE FOOD BANK OR MAKE ADVANTAGE OF OTHER PROGRAMS WE HAVE LIKE THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM.

BUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF IS TRAINED TO IDENTIFY THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND HOW DO THEY KNOW WHO TO CALL IF THEY IDENTIFY THOSE OPPORTUNITIES? SO THIS IS NOT JUST LIMITED IN NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES, THIS IS OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

THEY GO INTO SEVERAL HOMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, EITHER THE REHAB ORAMA OR THEIR VACANT UM, BUILDINGS PROGRAM.

WE ALSO HAVE D S D WHO HAS CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS.

WE HAVE CENTER CITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AND SEVERAL OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES THAT ARE REALLY THE FRONTLINE STAFF WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY WANNA MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE TRAINING SO THEY CAN SPOT ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT CURRICULUM AND IT'LL BE CITYWIDE AND IT'S BEING DONE IN COORDINATION WITH SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT DO IT VERY WELL.

THE SAN ANTONIO FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A GREAT PROGRAM FOR THE HOARDING INITIATIVE.

WE KNOW D H S HAS SOME PROGRAMS, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A UNIFIED PROGRAM THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT CITYWIDE.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER POSITION.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE HOUSING FRAMEWORK AND ERIC ALREADY SPOKE ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN THE HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THAT CONSULTING CONTRACT WITH HOME BASE LAST MONTH.

THAT WILL BE COMPLETE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

AND THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS EFFORT.

THERE IS DEFINITELY A CORRELATION BETWEEN HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INTEGRATED WITHIN EACH OTHER AND THE CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COORDINATION OF BOTH OF THOSE PLANS.

AND THEN THE ONE I WANNA SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHT IS THE HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE FRAMEWORK REALLY IS, IT'S OUR PLAYBOOK.

IT'S HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SAN ANTONIO.

IT IDENTIFIES SPECIFIC ACTIONS AND STRATEGIES, BUT WE WANNA TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND ON HOW WE TRULY IMPLEMENT IT AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IMPLEMENTATION.

SO WE ARE WORKING WITH AN, UH, ANOTHER COMMITTEE

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MAINLY INTERNALLY AND THEN WITH OUR SAHA HOUSING TRUST, SAN ANTONIO REGIONAL ALLIANCE FOR HOMELESSNESS AND THE HOUSING COMMISSION ON WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT ACTION IDENTIFIED IN THAT PLAN.

AND SO WE WANT THIS TO BE A ROADMAP WHERE IT SAYS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THE PRODUCTION GOALS FOR THIS CATEGORY AND THESE ENTITIES ARE GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

UM, THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE CENTER CITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE WHEN WE CREATED THE DOWNTOWN FRAMEWORK PLAN.

CITY COUNCIL ACCEPTED THAT PLAN, BUT THEN LATER THEY ADOPTED THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH WAS ALSO ADOPTED BY CENTRO.

AND IT CLEARLY IDENTIFIED WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING WHAT.

THIS PLAN WILL ALSO BE ADOPTED BY EACH OF THESE ENTITIES, THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE HOUSING TRUST, SARAH.

AND WE'D LIKE THE HOUSING COMMISSION TO SERVE AS THE PUBLIC INPUT COMPONENT FOR THIS, UM, EFFORT.

THIS WILL TRULY HELP US ENSURE THAT WE ARE COORDINATED AND WE KNOW WHICH ENTITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT GOAL WITHIN THE HOUSING FRAMEWORK PLAN.

THE NEXT GOAL FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR 2020 AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN WAS TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT GOALS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS WHO HAVE BEEN IN SAN ANTONIO FOR YEARS, AND THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE WANT TO PROTECT AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN STAY IN THEIR HOME.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE LEAD-BASED PAINT PROGRAM AND THE LET'S PAINT PROGRAM, BUT I WANNA SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHT FIVE PROGRAMS I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE REHAB ARBA PROGRAM.

THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS FACILITATED BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

AND THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS SUCH A GREAT STEWARD OF OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.

THEY DO THIS PROGRAM TWICE A YEAR AND IT'S COMPLETELY DONE THROUGH DONATIONS AND VOLUNTEERS.

THEY PICK A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY GO INTO THAT HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY WORK WITH A COMMUNITY TO REHAB THOSE HOMES.

AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DO 17 HOMES THIS PAST FALL WHEN THEY DID THE MISSION HISTORIC DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD IN DISTRICT THREE.

THE NEXT PROGRAM WILL BE IN THE SPRING WITH DISTRICT FIVE.

THEY HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THE NEIGHBORHOOD YET, BUT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND BUILD CAPACITY ON HOW WE TRAIN OUR CONTRACTORS TO REHAB THESE HOMES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

I WANT TO REALLY THANK SHANNON MILLER AND HER OFFICE FOR CREATING THIS PROGRAM.

THEY'VE DONE OVER 50 HOMES THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.

UM, THE NEXT PROGRAM I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS THE INFILL HOUSING PROGRAM.

THE FISCAL YEAR 20 BUDGET INCLUDES $6.1 MILLION AND WE ANTICIPATE DOING 50 HOMES WITH THIS FUNDING.

WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FIVE.

AND WHAT WE WANNA DO IS ABOUT 10 HOMES IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER IT'S REHAB OR NEW INFILL.

AND WE WILL BE ISSUING A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS FOR THIS PROGRAM IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY.

THIS PROGRAM PROVIDES FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENGAGE THE CONTRACTOR COMMUNITY AGAIN.

AND WHAT WE WANNA DO IS IF THERE ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE A LOT OR HAVE A HOME THAT IS VACANT AND THEY WANT TO REHAB AND THEY'RE WILLING TO SELL IT TO AT A FAMILY AND AFFORDABLE RATE, WE WANT THEM TO APPLY TO THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE THIS IS THE BEST WAY FOR US TO DEPLOY THESE RESOURCES AND ACTUALLY LEVERAGE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.

AND SO WE'LL BE DOING A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY.

AND IF A CONTRACTOR IS INTERESTED IN THIS PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY HAVE A VACANT LOT, THEY APPLY TO THE PROGRAM, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO FINANCING, CONSTRUCTION FINANCING THROUGH LISC, AND THEN WE WILL PROVIDE THEM A GRANT TO HELP THEM SELL THAT LOT OR THAT PROJECT AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE.

THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR INFILL PILOT PROGRAM.

SEVERAL YEARS IN LOS SARDINAS AND SUNNY SLOPE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN FIVE POINTS AS WELL.

UM, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.

NOW WE ALSO WANNA WORK WITH EACH OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS WHO KNOW OF LOTS THAT ARE VACANT AND THEY WOULD LIKE US TO PROACTIVELY SEEK OUT PURCHASING THOSE LOTS.

AND THEN IF WE PURCHASE A LOT, THEN WE WILL DO A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS FOR CONTRACTORS INTERESTED IN BUILDING ON THAT LOT.

WE ALSO HAVE A OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM THAT PROVIDED ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

WE CAN DO 81 HOMES WITHOUT FUNDING AND THAT'LL BE CITYWIDE.

AND WE'VE ALREADY DONE OUR APPLICATION IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER AND WE HAVE FUNDING FOR 81 HOMES, BUT WE RECEIVED OVER 300 APPLICATIONS.

THERE IS A HUGE NEED FOR OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB IN THIS COMMUNITY.

OUR MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM, UM, THIS FISCAL YEAR INCLUDED $1.71 MILLION.

THAT'S ABOUT $1.2 MILLION MORE.

THAT WAS IN FISCAL YEAR 2019.

AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO DO 46 HOMES WITH THAT FUNDING.

IT PROVIDES UP TO $25,000 TO EACH HOMEOWNER TO IMPROVE THEIR HOME.

AND WE'VE DONE A ROLLING APPLICATION PROCESS

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FOR THAT.

AND WE ONLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO 46 HOMES AND WE ALREADY HAVE OVER 400 APPLICATIONS.

WE ARE CURRENTLY VETTING THOSE APPLICATIONS BASED ON ELIGIBILITY.

YOU DO HAVE TO BE, UM, AT BE BELOW AT OR BELOW 80% A M I.

AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE NEED FOR EACH OF THOSE PROGRAMS. 'CAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE SOME HOMES THAT IF WE DO NOT TAKE CARE OF THEM, THE HOMEOWNER WILL BE OUT OF THEIR HOME.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE, THOSE ISSUES RIGHT AWAY.

AND THEN FINALLY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS WE HAVE AS THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM, IT RECEIVES $5.25 MILLION AND WE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO 530 UNITS, BUT WE'VE HAD A ROLLING APPLICATION IN THE PAST THREE MONTHS.

WE ALREADY HAVE 700 APPLICATIONS FOR THIS PROGRAM.

IT'S A VERY POPULAR PROGRAM IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UM, IS GOING TO BE SEEKING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO HELP FUND MORE OF THESE, THESE PROJECTS.

NOW ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM IS HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERY OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB PROJECT WE DO, OR INFILL PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION OR REHAB, WE INCORPORATE A WHITE ROOF BECAUSE THAT PROVIDES THAT ELECTRICAL SAVINGS THEY NEED ON THEIR, THEIR BILL.

UM, AND IT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE AND IT'S MORE FRIENDLY.

UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT EXPANDING THIS PROGRAM TO RENTAL.

UM, THIS IS A GREAT TOOL THAT WE CAN USE FOR RENTAL PROPERTIES.

IF A, IF A PROPERTY OWNER OWNS A HOME AND HE RENTS IT, WE CAN USE THIS AS A WAY TO IMPROVE THEIR ROOF AND EXCHANGE FOR THEM RENTING THAT HOME AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE TO A FAMILY.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN EXPAND THIS PROGRAM, BUT THESE FIVE PROGRAMS ARE EXTREMELY POPULAR.

THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM HAS BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED AND WON SEVERAL AWARDS.

UM, AND IT'S ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE FEEL THAT WE CAN SEEK GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR AND LEVERAGE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

THE NEXT GOAL IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET AS TO FACILITATE SUSTAINABLE HOME OWNERSHIP AND FUTURE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, THE TWO PROJECTS I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IN THIS IS THE ANTI DISPLACEMENT STRATEGY.

UM, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, ALONG WITH INDIANAPOLIS AND WINSTON-SALEM, WHERE RECIPIENTS OF A GRANT, UM, THROUGH THE GROUND AND SOLUTIONS NETWORK FOR EVERY HOME INITIATIVE.

UM, THIS IS A COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROCESS.

WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES THE MAYOR, UM, HOUSING COMMISSION MEMBERS, LORDES CASTRO RAMIREZ AND JESSICA GUERRERO.

UM, VERO SOTO, THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY, SAGE AND ESPERANZA.

AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CREATE AN ANTI DISPLACEMENT STRATEGY.

WE ARE IN PHASE ONE OF THE STRATEGY, WHICH WILL COMPLETE IN JANUARY, AND THAT IS THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT PHASE.

BUT ULTIMATELY WE WILL HAVE AN INCLUSIVE GROWTH AGENDA AND AN ANTI DISPLACEMENT AGENDA.

AND THAT AGENDA IDENTIFY TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP BATTLE DISPLACEMENT.

SOME OF THOSE TOOLS MIGHT BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONES OR THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST PROGRAMS. UM, THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST PROGRAM WAS A PROGRAM THAT COUNCILMAN MANNY ELIAS INITIATED A C C R ON.

UM, WE BRIEFED THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, UM, ABOUT A MONTH AGO ON THAT PROGRAM.

UM, AND THAT ALLOWS FOR THE OFFICE OF URBAN RENEWAL SAN ANTONIO TO PURCHASE A HOME, UM, OR PURCHASE THE LAND THAT A PROPERTY OWNER OWNS.

BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER RETAINS THE HOME.

WE LEASE THE LAND BACK TO THEM AND THERE IS TAX SAVINGS AS A RESULT OF A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY LEASING THAT LAND AND OWNING THAT LAND.

SO WE'RE EXPLORING THAT OPPORTUNITY.

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH B C A D AND LOOKED AT HOW OTHER CITIES LIKE AUSTIN AND DALLAS ARE DOING THAT.

AND WE'LL BRING THAT RECOMMENDATION FORWARD TO THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.

BUT MOST LIKELY IT'LL ALSO BE INCORPORATED IN THE ANTI DISPLACEMENT STRATEGY.

UM, THE SAME WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONES.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE ZONES IN SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH WOULD FREEZE THE TAXES, UM, ON A NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH A PROPERTY OWNER PAYS.

UM, SO IF YOU DO IMPROVEMENTS TO A HOME, YOUR TAXES ARE FROZEN ON THAT IMPROVEMENT.

HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T FIX THE NEIGHBOR WHO LIVES NEXT DOOR WHOSE TAXES MIGHT GO UP BECAUSE YOU IMPROVED YOUR HOME.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE WORK ON OUR LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY WITH JEFF COYLE.

AND WE'LL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH HIM AND SEVERAL HOUSING COMMISSIONERS ON WHAT THAT LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY LOOKS LIKE AS WE GET READY FOR THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION AT THE STATE.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

THIS IS AN 18 MONTH EFFORT, UM, AND IT'LL BE CONCLUDED IN OCTOBER OF 2020.

THE NEXT PROGRAM THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE RISK MITIGATION FUND.

THIS WAS CREATED LAST FISCAL YEAR IN MARCH OF 2019.

THERE WAS A MILLION DOLLARS BUDGETED AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 BUDGET.

AND WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET.

WE LEARNED A LOT FROM LAST YEAR WHAT THOSE FUNDS SHOULD BE USED FOR.

WE'VE HAD TO HAVE SEVERAL STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMITTEE COMPRISED OF CITY STAFF, AFFORDABLE HOUSING STAKEHOLDERS AND HOUSING COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT HAVE HELPED US IDENTIFY WHAT WE NEED TO USE THIS FUNDING FOR.

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SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE USING IT FOR EMERGENCY HOUSING STABILIZATION.

SO WE BUDGET ABOUT $410,000, WHICH WILL HELP US WITH 120 HOUSEHOLDS THAT'LL PROVIDE UP TO $3,500 FOR RENT OR MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE AND UP TO 1500 FOR UTILITY ASSISTANCE.

SO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE AT RISK OF LOSING A HOME, WE CAN PROVIDE THEM THIS TYPE OF ASSISTANCE.

AND IT'S BUDGETED AT 410,000.

THE NEXT ONE IS A RELOCATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH WE BUDGETED $660,000 AND WE HOPE TO HELP AT LEAST 190 HOUSEHOLDS AND WE'LL PROVIDE UP TO $3,500 AND RENT OR MORTGAGE PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND UP TO $7,000 FROM MOBILE HOME RELOCATION.

THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE CAN, WE NEED TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING AND THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND THE GREATEST NEED.

WE ALSO ARE WORKING WITH SARAH AND U SS A A ON CREATING A PROGRAM TO WORK WITH LANDLORDS ON HOW THEY CAN REDUCE THEIR SCREENING CRITERIA FOR DISPLACED AND HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.

AND SO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING INSURANCE TO WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO LEASE AN APARTMENT BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE BEST HISTORY OF RENTING A HOME, WE'RE PROVIDING THAT INSURANCE SO THAT LANDLORD FEELS COMFORTABLE LEASING ON THAT HOME.

AND THEN FINALLY, A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE DETERMINED THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED IS A RIGHT TO COUNSEL PROGRAM.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SEVERAL CITIES DO THROUGHOUT THE US.

UM, WE ARE PROVIDING UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TEXAS RIO GRANDE LEGAL AID FUND TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.

WE'RE WORKING ON THE SCOPE OF WORK RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT WILL HELP TENANTS WHO ARE THREATENED WITH EVICTION.

THEY WILL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH COUNSEL TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THEIR RIGHTS AND GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND WE FOUND THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THE MISSING THINGS AS WE WENT THROUGH THE, UM, EVALUATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 RISK MITIGATION FUND.

THE LAST GOAL I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS THE INCREASED OWNER AND RENTAL OCCUPIED HOUSING.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT WE USE TODAY THAT I'M NOT GONNA HIGHLIGHT, BUT YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE TOOLS WE HAVE, WHICH IS NOT ON THIS LIST, IS THE PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION.

THE PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION THROUGH THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE TOOLS WE HAVE IN FACILITATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND MOST OF THESE PROJECTS THAT I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WILL USE THE PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION AS A VEHICLE TO GET THROUGH THEIR PROJECTS FINANCING.

SO, UM, I DON'T WANNA DISCOUNT THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT PROGRAM.

IN YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE PROGRAMS THROUGH THAT ARE RECEIVING RENTAL INCENTIVES AND YOU WILL SEE SEVERAL OF THEM ARE USING THE PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION FOR THEIR FINANCING.

BUT THE FIRST ONE I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS A FOUR AND NINE, FOUR AND 9% TAX CREDIT POLICY AND THE GAP FUNDING EVALUATION CRITERIA.

BOTH OF THESE, UM, ITEMS WERE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN THE FALL OF 2019.

THE HOUSING TAX CREDIT POLICY WAS SOMETHING WE RECENTLY ADOPTED IN AN EFFORT TO ENCOURAGE INCOME AVERAGING.

AND SO WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID OUR INVENTORY OF ALL THE HOUSING PROJECTS WE HAVE IN THE PIPELINE, THAT WE HAD A LOT OF PROJECTS BETWEEN 50 AND 60% A M I, BUT WE HAD BARELY ANY PROJECTS BELOW 50%.

AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THE 4% TAX CREDIT PROGRAM PROVIDES THAT TAX CREDIT PROVIDED YOUR HOUSING IS AT 60% A M I BELOW.

SO THE DEVELOPER WAS ALWAYS DOING THE 60% A M I.

NOW THE INCOME AVERAGING RULES ALLOW YOU TO GO A LITTLE BIT ABOVE 60% UP TO 80% IN EXCHANGE FOR DOING THAT.

YOU CAN GO DOWN TO 30% TO GET THAT DEEPER AFFORDABILITY.

SO THAT IS WHAT THAT POLICY, UM, DID FOR, UM, OUR PIPELINE.

AND IT DOESN'T COME INTO EFFECT UNTIL DECEMBER, WHICH IT CAME INTO EFFECT IN DECEMBER 2ND, 2019.

BUT JUST BY US TALKING ABOUT IT, WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

THE FIVE PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH FOR RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTIONS, ALL OF 'EM THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED HAVE SOME FORM OF INCOME AVERAGING.

AND SO THAT'S 1300 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND 10% OF THOSE UNITS ARE AT OR BELOW 30% A M I WHEREAS LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY 30% UNITS AS A RESULT OF THAT 4% TAX CREDIT.

THE NEXT PROGRAM I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS OUR GAP FUNDING.

UM, WE HAVE GAP FUNDING PROVIDED DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THROUGH C D B G AND HOME DOLLARS.

UM, AND THIS YEAR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN INCLUDED FUNDING IN THE TOURS.

SO WE HAVE $1.5 MILLION FROM THAT TOURIST FUNDING FOR GAP FINANCING.

WE ISSUED A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS FOR BOTH RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP.

WE RECEIVED 11 APPLICATIONS AND WE ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THEM.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT $10,000,009 MILLION FOR GAP FINANCING TO HELP 11 PROJECTS OF WHICH EIGHT ARE RENTAL AND THREE YEAR HOME OWNERSHIP.

THAT WILL HELP FACILITATE

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MORE AFFORDABILITY.

WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON JANUARY 13TH AND HOPEFULLY CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY 30TH.

BUT THIS IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE HAD.

WE HAVE MORE FUNDING THIS YEAR THAN WE DID HAD IN PREVIOUS YEARS, AND IT'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE.

ANOTHER PROGRAM I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS OUR PROPERTY DISPOSITION PROGRAM.

WE HAVE OUR CONTINENTAL HOTEL.

WE, WE, UM, PROJECT, WE SAID THAT WE WOULD ISSUE AN R F P FOR A WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT.

UM, WE HAVE FINISHED THE R F P, WE HAVE DONE STAKEHOLDER AND, UM, INTERVIEWS AND WE'LL BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION EARLY 2020.

UM, AND IT'LL BE GOING TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE NEXT WEEK.

UM, OUR SOUTH SAN PEDRO PROJECT, THIS IS OUR LAST PROJECT WHERE WE'RE BUYING PROPERTY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT, UM, BOND DOLLARS WE RECEIVED AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2017 BUDGET.

THIS PROPERTY IS IN DISTRICT ONE AND WE'RE BEING ISSUING AN R F P IN DECEMBER OF 2020.

AND WE ANTICIPATED BRINGING ON ABOUT 60 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

THIS WILL BE THE FOURTH PROJECT WE'VE DONE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS BOND DOLLARS.

AND THEN FINALLY THE OURS AND IORA PROPERTY.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROPERTY FOR YEARS.

UM, THE CHALLENGES HAVE REALLY BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP.

IT'S CURRENTLY BEING CLEANED UP AND WE'RE IN PARTNERING WITH T C A Q ON THAT CLEANUP.

AND WE'LL BE ISSUING AN R F P FOR AB AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SPRING OF 2020.

AND THEN THE LAST TWO PROJECTS I WANNA TALK ABOUT BEFORE I GO INTO THE PIPELINE, UM, IS OUR MISSION ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE.

UM, AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, WE CANNOT DO THIS ALONE AND WE'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCILWOMAN SHIRLEY GONZALEZ AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTO TREVINO.

THEY'VE IDENTIFIED CHURCH PROPERTIES OR NONPROFITS WHERE THERE IS UNDERDEVELOPED OR UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTY WHERE WE CAN PARTNER WITH THAT MISSION-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PARTNER AND BUILD HOUSING.

AND SO WE DID A WORKSHOP IN NOVEMBER 13TH AND WE HAD OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE.

AND WHAT WE ASKED THEM IS, DO YOU HAVE PROPERTY THAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO LOAN FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING? AND THEN WE SHOWED THEM EXAMPLES OF THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT WE'VE DONE.

ONE EXAMPLE IS A ST.

JOHN'S PROJECT IN DISTRICT THREE AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IT.

AND WE ASKED THEM, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ON DEVELOPING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT ON YOUR SITE, PLEASE FILL OUT A SURVEY.

AND WE RECEIVED OVER 40 SURVEYS, UM, FROM INTERESTED DEVELOPERS OR INTERESTED CHURCHES AND NONPROFITS.

WE ARE CURRENTLY INTERVIEWING EACH OF THEM TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS PROCESS.

AND WE HOPE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHICH ONES WE'LL BE WORKING WITH.

UM, OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

NOW WE HAVE $300,000 AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET, WHERE WE'LL PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF CHURCHES THAT MIGHT HAVE, UM, A CONGREGATION THAT HAS DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOME CHURCHES THAT ARE VERY SMALL AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE.

AND SO THIS FUNDING IS TO HELP THEM WITH MASTER PLANNING OR FACILITY PLANNING OR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ASSOCIATED WITH ENTITLEMENTS OR LOOKING AT THE FINANCING ON WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

AND SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS IN MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OR A BRIEFING TO THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE HOUSING COMMISSION.

AND THEN THE LAST PROGRAM IS OUR REMOVING BARRIERS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THIS IS BEING CO-CHAIRED BY JIM BAILEY.

ONE OF THOSE BARRIERS WE IDENTIFIED IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

UM, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO FACILITATE MORE A D U DEVELOPMENT IN OUR ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THESE PROPERTY OWNERS COULD RENT OR LEASE THESE PROPERTIES AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE TO INDIVIDUALS OR FAMILIES.

AND THE U D C HAS A COUPLE BARRIERS TO THIS.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH JIM'S COMMITTEE ON WHAT THOSE ARE, AND THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE U D C PROCESS SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE AMENDMENTS AND FACILITATE MORE OF THIS TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION.

LISC IS PARTNERING WITH US ON THIS AND WE'RE DEVELOPING PROTOTYPES ON WHAT AN A D U COULD LOOK LIKE.

SO WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT SET PLANS AND WE'LL BE DOING THAT THROUGH A DESIGN COMPETITION.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE, UM, WORKING WITH LS TO DEVELOP AN EXAMPLE A D U IN THE BACK OF THEIR OFFICE SO INDIVIDUALS CAN COME LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT THE LOOK AND FEEL OF AN A D U WOULD BE.

I WANNA BRIEFLY GO OVER OUR RENTAL UNIT PRODUCTION, REHAB AND PRESERVATION PIPELINE.

THE MAYOR'S HOUSING FRAMEWORK IDENTIFIED A NEED OF 10,382 UNITS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, AND IT LISTED THEM BY A M I CATEGORY AND WE ARE ON TARGET FOR EACH OF THOSE, UM, GOALS.

UM, WHAT WE LEARNED THOUGH, IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT 31 TO 50% A M I AND WHAT WE ALSO LEARNED IS THAT WE NEED TO RECALIBRATE THESE GOALS.

UM, AND SO I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT RELA RECALIBRATION AFTER I GO OVER THESE GOALS.

BUT WE

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ARE, UM, MEETING ALL OF THEM.

AND YOU CAN SEE IF IT'S IN THE PRE-CLOSING OR CLOSED LINE.

IT'S ON YOUR INVENTORY SHEETS THAT I PROVIDED YOU.

UM, AND IF IT'S IN THE PIPELINE, IT'S A PROJECT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT HASN'T EITHER RECEIVED THE LETTER OF NO OBJECTION OR HASN'T RECEIVED THE FINANCING, AND IT WILL BE EITHER MOVED TO THAT PRE-CLOSING OR CLOSED LIST OR THE PROJECT WILL BE TERMINATED BECAUSE IT'S NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE 12,382 UNITS AS PART OF OUR GOAL.

AND WE ARE AT 10,359 UNITS NOW FOR THE OWNER-OCCUPIED UNIT.

UM, REHAB AND PRESERVATION AND, UM, PRODUCTION GOALS.

UM, WE ARE ON TARGET FOR 80% A M I PRODUCTION.

UM, WE'RE AT 23% OF OUR GOAL.

A LOT OF THOSE ARE DONE THROUGH HA'S, UM, REHAB PROGRAM.

THEY DO, THEY HAVE A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PROGRAM THAT THEY DO.

UM, THEY HAVE ABOUT 1500 UNITS ON THAT INVENTORY, UM, FOR THIS YEAR.

AND A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE RENTAL OR OWNER OCCUPIED INVENTORY.

AND THEN WE'RE ON TRACK FOR OUR 81 TO ONE 20% A M I CATEGORY.

NOW THE MAJORITY OF THE 81 TO ONE 20% A M I, THOSE ARE A LOT OF THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROJECTS AND OUR HABITAT PROJECTS, THE MAJORITY OF THE RENTAL UNITS ARE WITHIN OUR REGIONAL CENTER OR ONE MILE WITHIN THE REGIONAL CENTER OR THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.

WE WANNA ASSURE AN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SA TOMORROW PLAN.

SO ACTUALLY 92% OF THOSE PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE FOR THE RENTAL ARE WITHIN A MILE OF THOSE REGIONAL CENTERS AND TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.

IT DROPS TO ABOUT 50% WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE OWNER OCCUPY, WHICH WOULD BE EXPECTED BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THESE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHAT WE WANNA DO IS WORK WITH THE HOUSING COMMISSION AND OUR OTHER HOUSING PARTNERS TO RECALIBRATE THESE GOALS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE, WE ARE MEETING OR BEATING THESE GOALS AND WE FEEL THAT WE NEED TO FURTHER REFINE THESE GOALS.

WHERE DO WE WANT TO SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT? SO WE ARE GONNA REFINE AND CALIBRATE THE GOALS AND LOOK AT OWNER VERSUS REHAB AND THEN DO PRODUCTION VERSUS RENTAL AND RECONSTRUCTION WITHIN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES AND THEN DIVIDE IT BY THE A M I CATEGORIZATION AND THEN LOOK AT THE SA TOMORROW ALIGNMENT.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EACH OF THE 13 REGIONAL CENTERS IN THE SA TOMORROW PLAN THERE IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOAL.

AND THIS RECALIBRATION WILL, WILL HELP US DO THAT.

THEN WE'RE GONNA DEFINE THE GOALS, WHAT IS CONSIDERED REHAB? SO DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT IF THE HOUSE IS WORTH A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND WE'RE INVESTING 25% OF THAT HOME IS AT REHAB, UM, OR IS, IS IT LESS THAN THAT? AND WE'LL BE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS THROUGH THIS RECALIBRATION.

AND THEN IS THERE LOCATION CRITERIA? DO WE ONLY WANT TO COUNT THOSE UNITS THAT ARE WITHIN A MILE OF THE REGIONAL CENTER OR A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR? AND THEN WE NEED TO DEVELOP METRICS.

WHAT IS THE BASELINE FOR EACH GOAL? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EACH GOAL? AND THEN WHEN DO WE COUNT THE UNIT? DO WE COUNT THE UNIT WHEN IT'S CLOSED? DO WE COUNT THE UNIT WHEN, UM, IT'S FINANCED? AND SO WE'LL BE HAVING ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS THROUGH THAT RECALIBRATION EFFORT.

AND THAT WILL BE DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HOUSING COMMISSION AND PRESENTED AT THE HOUSING COMMISSION.

BEFORE WE PRESENT IT TO THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL COMMITTEE, I JUST WANNA BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE PROJECTS.

WE HAVE THE HAVE THE ST.

JOHN'S PROJECT, WHICH IS A PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION PROJECT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE P F C AND MISSION DG.

IT'S WITHIN DISTRICT THREE AND IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ARCHDIOCESE.

THEY OWN THE LAND.

THE DEVELOPER HAS A 75 YEAR GROUND LEASE.

ARCHDIOCESE IS RECEIVING A LAND LEASE AND THE AMOUNT OF NORTH OF $160,000 ANNUALLY.

AND THAT FUNDING HELPS WITH THE ARCHDIOCESE OPERATIONS.

BUT IN EXCHANGE, THEY'RE GETTING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.

AND THAT'S 288 UNITS OF WHICH 167 ARE AT 60% AND 9% OR AT 30%.

UM, WE WANNA TALK ABOUT LAYERING.

THIS IS A 4% TAX CREDIT PROJECT.

IT'S A P F C DEAL.

IT HAS P F C BONDS, IT HAS FEE WAIVERS, AND IT'S ALSO A CENTER CITY HOUSING INCENTIVE POLICY PROJECT.

SO ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, THEY'RE REQUIRING THOSE LAYERING OF INCENTIVES TO MAKE THEM WORK.

I WANNA BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT THE MUSEUM REACH LTS.

MICHAEL SHACKLEFORD WITH ALAMO GROUP IS HERE, UM, FROM THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP.

UM, THIS PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE IN DECEMBER OF 2020.

IT'S WITHIN THE MIDTOWN AREA.

IT'S 94 UNITS OF WHICH 86 ARE AFFORDABLE, AND IT HAS NINE AT 30%, 50 AT 30, I'M SORRY, 35 AT 50% AND 42 AT 60%.

THIS IS THE FIRST TRUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT WITHIN THE AREA ALONG THE MUSEUM REACH.

AND ONCE AGAIN, IT'S THAT LAYERED INCENTIVE APPROACH.

YOU HAVE THE 9%, THE FEE WAIVERS, THE CCHI, THE

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TAX REBATE, AND THE TOURS.

ANOTHER PROJECT IS THE GREEN LINE NORTH PROJECT.

I HIGHLIGHTED THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS BOND PROJECT.

IT WAS FORMERLY THE SOUTHEAST SERVICE CENTER.

WE ISSUED AN R F P AND WE SELECTED FRANKLIN DEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS PROJECT WILL BE USING INCOME AVERAGING AND IT HAS 292 UNITS.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S TRULY MIXED INCOME WITH 34 OF THE UNITS BEING AT 30% A M I.

WE HAVE WATSON ROAD PHASE ONE, WHICH IS A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY PROJECT.

I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS PROJECT.

IT'S 53 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.

UM, IT'LL BE PRICED FOR FAMILIES AT OR BELOW 80%.

THE AVERAGE HOME BUYER'S ANNUAL INCOME IS $29,000.

AND THE SALES PRICE OF THESE HOMES IS $88,000.

THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET A MORTGAGE OF TERMS OF 20 TO 25 YEARS AT 0% INTEREST, AND THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENT WILL BE 510 TO $600 A MONTH.

UM, THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW WE PARTNER AND USE OUR INCENTIVES AND PARTNERING WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY TO MAKE THESE HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES A REALITY.

IT RECEIVED ABOUT $3 MILLION IN C D B G AND HOME FUNDS TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S NECESSARY TO GET US THE AFFORDABILITY WE WANT IN THIS COMMUNITY.

UM, THE OTHER PROJECT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS ST.

PHILIP'S MICRO HOUSING.

THIS IS A FUND PROJECT WITH A SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY.

IT'S IN DISTRICT TWO DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ST.

PHILIP'S.

THEY'RE BUILDING, UM, STUDENT HOUSING MICRO UNITS.

UM, WHAT THEY LEARNED SAW HOW LEARNED THAT THERE WERE ST.

PHILIP'S STUDENTS LIVING IN THEIR CARS NEAR THE CAMPUS AND THEY WERE GOING TO SCHOOL.

SO WE NEEDED TO FIND A WAY FOR THEM TO HAVE HOUSING.

AND SO SAHA IS USING THEIR VOUCHER PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS TO USE VOUCHERS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THESE MICRO UNITS.

AND IT'LL BE 20 UNITS AND THEY'LL, ALBEIT 30% A M I OR BELOW.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT COST IS 1.3 MILLION.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR LISTENING.

IT'S, IT, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK AHEAD AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT EVERYONE'S COMMITTED TO THIS AND, UM, WE HAVE SOME GREAT PROJECTS AND IT'S THROUGH THE CITY AND OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE HOUSING TRUST, AND THE HOUSING COMMISSION'S LEADERSHIP THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE.

SO THANK YOU SHANNON MILLER, WHO WILL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT ITEM AND THEN WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

UM, I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEXT SPEAKER, UM, DONOVAN KUMA.

DON IS A INTERNATIONAL LEADER IN THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF CULTURAL HERITAGE AND, UM, DOES A LOT OF WORK AROUND THE, THE COUNTRY AND IN, I MEAN YES, AROUND OUR COUNTRY AND IN MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD.

UM, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH HIM SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE YEARS.

UM, WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT STUDIES SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO WITH HIM, INCLUDING OUR, UM, ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY RELATED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

UM, HE ALSO HAS BEEN A SPONSOR AND AN ADVISOR TO OUR, UH, THE O H P LIVING HERITAGE SYMPOSIUM SINCE THE BEGINNING.

AND SO HE IS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER IN DEVELOPING THAT AS WELL.

UM, I'M EXCITED TO HAVE HIM HERE TODAY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE RESULTS OF OUR LATEST STUDY RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

DON THANKS SHANNON, AND THANKS ALL OF YOU FOR MAKING TIME FOR ME TODAY.

IF I CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO, YOU, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SMARTER THAN THE EQUIPMENT AND I'M NOT ALWAYS OH, NEXT THEN BE NEXT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE GREAT, OKAY.

THANKS.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

UM, SO HERE, HERE WAS OUR, UH, OUR ASSIGNMENT FROM, FROM SHANNON'S OFFICE.

IT WAS TO LOOK AT THE ROLE OF OLDER HOUSING IN, UH, IN, UH, UH, SAN ANTONIO, AND PARTICULARLY HOW IT MEETS THE NEEDS OF, OF, OF AFFORDABLE NEEDS OF, OF FAMILIES IN, UH, IN SAN ANTONIO.

TO LOOK AT THE LOCATION, CONDITION AND OWNERSHIP PATTERNS OF THE, THAT HOUSING, IDENTIFY VULNERABLE PROPERTIES THO THOSE AT RISK AT, OF BEING, UH, DEMOLISHED IN, IN FUTURE YEARS.

AND THEN TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS TO MITIGATE THE LOSS OF OLDER HOUSING.

AND I WANNA STRESS THAT THIS WAS IDEAS, NOT RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO.

AND THERE'S 35 OR 40 OF THEM.

UH, AND WE DIDN'T CONSIDER WHAT THE FISCAL OR, OR POLITICAL OR, OR POLICY OR EVEN LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS.

WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF EXPAND THE THINKING ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, APPROACHES THAT MIGHT BE USED.

UH, WHEN WE STARTED OUT WITH THESE KIND OF THREE PREMISES THAT I THINK ARE, ARE QUANTITATIVELY DEMONSTRABLE.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU CAN'T BUILD NEW AND RENT OR SELL CHEAP, NOT UNLESS YOU HAVE VERY DEEP SUBSIDIES.

SECOND IS THAT ALMOST BY DEFINITION, SAN ANTONIO, WHEN A UNIT OF OLDER HOUSING, AND BY THE WAY, OLDER HOUSING, WE MEAN HOUSING BUILT PRIOR TO 1960.

UM, WHEN YOU LOSE A UNIT OF OLDER HOUSING, YOU

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LOSE A UNIT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND FINALLY, WHILE YOU HAVE GREAT, UH, EXISTING PROGRAMS, AND LLOYD TALKED ABOUT MANY OF THEM, UH, IN FACT, WE'D SUGGEST THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME REALIGNMENT OF THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT MAINTAINING EXISTING HOUSING IS A SUFFICIENT, UH, PRIORITY.

UH, AND, AND THIS WHOLE PROCESS, I GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS, THIS REPORT IS NOT, INSTEAD OF THESE TWO GREAT STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS ON HOUSING SAN ANTONIO IS NOT, INSTEAD OF, IT REALLY IS IN AN ADVANCEMENT OF AND IN SUPPLEMENT TO NOT, INSTEAD OF, AND A NUMBER OF THE HOUSING POLICIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE ADOPTED, IN FACT ARE, ARE ADVANCED BY ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES OF OLDER HOUSING.

UH, HERE.

SO WE, WE WANTED TO START OUT SAYING JUST WHAT DO YOU HAVE HERE? SO IN SAN ANTONIO, THERE'S 525,000 HOUSING UNITS, UH, THAT, UH, OF ABOUT, UH, 274,000, UH, IN, UH, OR 174,000 IN MULTIFAMILY UNITS, OR ABOUT A THIRD, ABOUT TWO THIRDS IN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING UNITS.

UH, OF THOSE, UH, ABOUT, UH, OF THE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, ABOUT 11,000 ARE BUILT PRIOR TO 1960.

BUT HERE'S A VERY INTERESTING DISCOVERY IS THAT THE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING BUILT PRIOR TO 1960 WAS OVERWHELMINGLY 70% SMALL SCALE DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS TWO TO FOUR UNITS.

AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE, THAT'S NOT A PARTICULARLY DISRUPTIVE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE IN NEW MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, ONLY 5% OF IT IS THAT, THAT SMALL SCALE.

AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH BIG NEW LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, BUT IT JUST HAS A LOT DIFFERENT IMPACT, UH, ON A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAN, UH, OF THE, UH, HOUSING BUILT, UH, PRIOR TO 1960.

UM, THAT, UH, I CAN'T EVEN READ MY OWN STUFF THAT FAR AWAY.

OH, I HAVE TO LOOK RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

GEEZ, I'M AN IDIOT.

I, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING AN IDIOT IN THIS STUFF.

UM, SO 70% OF THEM OF SINGLE FAMILY UNITS BUILT SINCE 19, UH, UH, 60, ABOUT 30% PRIOR TO, UH, 1960.

UM, IN THE, UH, IN THE HOUSING TENURE OWNERSHIP OR RENTAL ABOUT, UH, 70% OF THE NEWER HOUSING BUILT IN 1960 IS OWNER OCCUPIED, UH, 30% OF IT TENANT OCCUPIED OF THE OLDER HOUSING UNITS, ABOUT, UH, 58% OWNER OCCUPIED, ABOUT 42%, UH, THAT IS, UH, A TENANT OCCUPIED.

SO IT'S REALLY THOSE TWO CATEGORIES THAT ROUGHLY 125,000 OR SO UNITS, UH, THAT WE REALLY FOCUS THIS STUDY ON.

WHAT DO WE HAVE? WHO LIVES THERE? WHERE ARE THEY, WHAT CONDITION ARE THEY IN AND SO FORTH.

WELL, WE LOOKED, WE CAN GET LOTS OF DATA AND YOUR ASSESSMENT OFFICE HERE WAS GREAT GETTING INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY DATA, BUT THAT DOESN'T GIVE INFORMATION THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT.

LIKE, UH, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF WHO LIVES THERE, UH, INDIVIDUAL INCOMES, WE, WE CAN AND SHOULDN'T GET THAT ON A HOUSE BY HOUSE BASIS.

SO OUR SUBSTITUTE WAS TO LOOK AT CENSUS BLOCKS, UH, IN, UH, SAN ANTONIO.

AND THOSE THAT HAD OVER HALF OF THEIR HOUSING STOCK THAT WAS BUILT PRIOR TO 1960 AND ROUGHLY A THIRD OF THE, OF THE HOUSING OF THE, OF THE CENSUS BLOCKS MET THAT TEST.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE.

AND YOU NOT SURPRISED IN THE CENTER, MOSTLY IN THE FOUR 10, UH, LOOP AREA IS WHERE THE BULK OF THAT HOUSING, UH, EXISTS.

UH, AND THEN WE SAID, OKAY, WHO LIVES HERE? AND AGAIN, WE HAD TO MAKE APPROXIMATION BASED ON THESE, UH, CENSUS BLOCKS, UH, OF KIND OF THE SHARE OF WHO LIVES IN WHICH CATEGORY.

BUT HERE'S THE REALLY INTERESTING THING THAT HOUSEHOLDS WITH, UH, AREA MEDIAN INCOME AT OR BELOW THE AVERAGE, UH, PREDOMINANTLY LIVE IN OLDER HOUSING.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHO LIVES, THE, THE WHOLE CHART CHANGES WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHO LIVES IN NEWER HOUSING, IT TENDS TO BE THOSE AT AND ABOVE THE AREA.

MEDIAN, UH, MEDIAN INCOME, MEANING IT REALLY IS THE, THE LESS FORTUNATE AMONG US, OR LESS PROSPEROUS AMONG US WHO IN FACT ARE LIVING IN THAT OLDER HOUSING.

UH, AND IT'S PARTICULARLY TRUE IN HISPANIC POPULATION HERE IS THAT 64, 60 5% OF THE POPULATION OF SAN ANTONIOS IN THE, UH, IDENTIFIES AS HISPANIC, BUT 87% OF THOSE THAT LIVE IN OLDER HOUSING, UH, UH, ARE ARE HISPANIC HOUSEHOLDS.

AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT HOW LONG, UH, PEOPLE HAVE HAVE LIVED THERE FOR BOTH, UH, RENTERS AND, UH, AND OWNERS.

WELL, IN FACT, THERE IS A LONGEVITY, UH, THAT'S DISPROPORTIONATE IN OLDER HOUSING.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY, SOMEBODY WHO BOUGHT A HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT IN 2018 CANNOT HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 20 YEARS.

SO IT'S, THE DATA SKEWS A LITTLE, BUT IT DOES SAY THAT THIS REALLY LONG-TERM OCCUPANCY IS A STABILIZING FACTOR IN NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THAT IS DISPROPORTIONATELY THAT LONGER TERM, UH, IN, UH, IN OLDER HOUSING.

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WELL, OFTENTIMES THE ISSUE ABOUT OLDER HOUSING IS, WELL, IT'S ALL FALLING APART.

IT'S ONLY STANDING UP BECAUSE THE TERMITES ARE HOLDING HANDS AND WE GOTTA GET RID OF IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT VIABLE.

WELL, IN FACT, THAT JUST REALLY ISN'T.

SO, AND WE LOOKED AT DATA BOTH FROM THE, FROM THE AMERICAN HOUSING SURVEY AND FROM THE RECORDS IN YOUR ASSESSMENT OFFICE ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE CONDITIONING OF THIS HOUSING.

UH, AND THE, THE FACT IS THAT OLDER HOUSING IS NOT AS IN GOOD A CONDITION AS NEW HOUSING.

NO SURPRISE THERE.

BUT, BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, 75% OF THE PRE 1960 HOUSING IS AN AVERAGE OR BETTER CONDITION.

ONLY ABOUT 1% IS REALLY IDENTIFIED IN THE POOR CONDITION.

MAYBE THAT'S THE STUFF THAT HAS TO GO.

BUT THERE THIS IDEA THAT WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THIS OLD STUFF 'CAUSE IT'S FALLEN DOWN SIMPLY IS NOT THE CASE.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS REALLY AN INTERESTING THING IS THAT, UH, OLDER HOUSING IS SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN, UH, THAN NEWER HOUSING, 1200 SQUARE FEET AVERAGE VERSUS 1900.

AGAIN, THAT JUST NOT SAYING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT NEW BIG HOUSING IS JUST SAYING THAT THIS SMALLER SCALE HOUSING IN ONE OF THE REALLY UNDERAPPRECIATED CONTRIBUTORS TO HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, IN FACT IS HOUSING SIZE.

YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE THING THAT'S SWEEPING THE COUNTRY, THIS TI TINY HOUSE MOVEMENT, AND IT'S A GREAT THING.

UM, BUT IN FACT, WHAT YOU HAVE IN, UH, IN SAN ANTONIO, OOPS, UH, IS THE KIND OF ORIGINAL TINY HOUSE MOVEMENT.

UH, 33,000 EXISTING PRE 1960 UNITS, IN FACT ARE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR SMALLER.

AND YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, THAT DOESN'T MEET THE NEEDS OF TODAY'S MARKET, BUT 60, ALMOST 60% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN SAN ANTONIO ARE EITHER ONE PERSON OR TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLDS.

AND THOSE HOUSEHOLDS, IN FACT, CAN ACCOMMODATE THEMSELVES IN THAT SIZE OF HOUSING.

UM, THE, THE FACT IS THAT THE OLDER IT IS THAT WHEN IT'S OLDER, IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE FOR LOTS OF REASONS.

UH, BUT IT JUST WORKS OUT.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT THE SHARE OF RENTS IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT RENTS $750 A MONTH AND LESS, IT'S DOMINATED BY PRE 1960 HOUSING.

IF YOU LOOK AT MORE THAN 700, IT'S DOMINATED BY POST 1960 HOUSING.

UH, WE LOOKED THEN IN THIS, UH, STUDY AREA, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN INTO THIS HOUSING ANALYSIS STUFF, USED TO BE PEOPLE JUST TALKED, HOW MUCH IS THE RENT AS A SHARE OF INCOME OR HOW MUCH IS THE MORTGAGE PAYMENT AS A SHARE OF INCOME? BUT IT GOT MORE SOPHISTICATED APPROACH IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IS THE H PLUS T HOUSING PLUS TRANSPORTATION.

AND THERE THIS THRESHOLD IS, IS THAT OVER 50% OF A HOUSEHOLD BUDGET BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS, HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION? WELL, WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS IN THIS CONCENTRATION IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY IN THIS OLDER HOUSING, IN FACT, WHEN YOU PUT THE, THE H PLUS T, THE HOUSE, UH, THE HOUSING COST PLUS THE TRANSPORTATION COST BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE CENTER OF THE CITY AND JOBS, IN FACT, UH, A SMALLER SHARE ARE BURDENED IN THAT AREA THAN IN THE OUTLYING AREAS IN SAN ANTONIO.

UH, VACANCY IS AN ISSUE.

NOW YOU HAVE A THRIVING ECONOMY IN A GROWING REAL ESTATE MARKET, BUT IN FACT THERE'S STILL A NOT INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF VACANCY, UH, IN THE CITY AS A WHOLE, ABOUT 9%, BUT ABOUT 13% IN OLDER HOUSING.

THAT REALLY REPRESENTS NOT JUST A KIND OF NUMBER, BUT ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY.

IF WE, IF WE HAVE A HOUSING NEED AND WE HAVE VACANT HOUSING, THEN WE OUGHT TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO COMBINE THOSE TWO UH, ATTRIBUTES.

UH, THE, JUST, JUST THE IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT, INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF ARCHITECTS, UH, CARL A LAFONTE IS ONE THAT'S CREDITED WITH THE PHRASE, UH, THE GREENEST BUILDING IS THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY BUILT.

AND THAT REALLY IS PRETTY TRUE.

THERE'S THE EMBODIED ENERGY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT, UH, DEVELOP THAT BUILDING.

CERTAINLY THE IMPACT ON THE LANDFILL WHEN YOU TEAR SOMETHING DOWN AND THROW IT AWAY, UH, THE GREATER LABOR INTENSITY OF PEOPLE WORKING ON REHABILITATION VERSUS, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION.

AND WHILE MATERIALS GENERALLY COME FROM THE OUTSIDE, LABOR COMES LOCALLY.

SO ALL OF THOSE ARE MEASURES OF SUSTAINABILITY AND THEY ARGUE FOR REHABILITATING, UH, OLDER HOUSING.

AND HERE'S THE, THE REALITY.

EVERY WEEK FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, SAN ANTONIO HAS LOST THREE UNITS OF HOUSING BUILT PRIOR IN 1960.

SO IT'S A, IT'S AN ONGOING, UH, UH, ONGOING ISSUE.

NOW YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, WE GOT THIS, WE GOT SHANNON'S OFFICE, AND DON'T HIS HISTORIC DISTRICTS KIND OF PROTECT IT, YOU KNOW, MITIGATE DEMOLITION? YES, THEY DO, BUT 90% OF PRE 1960 HOUSING ARE NOT IN ANY CONSERVATION DISTRICT OR HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY SHOULD, MOST OF THEM SHOULDN'T.

BUT THE POINT IS THAT THE ONE TOOL TO MITIGATE, UH, DEMOLITION IN SAN ANTONIO THAT YOU HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, THE CONSERVATION, HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICT.

MOST OF THESE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE HOUSES DON'T FIT INTO EITHER ONE OF THOSE.

UM, SO WE HAD TRIED TO IDENTIFY THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE AT THE GREATEST RISK, AND WE SAID THOSE BUILT PRIOR TO 1960 THAT ARE RENTER

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OCCUPIED, THAT ARE FAIR OR POOR CONDITION, AND WHERE THE LAND VALUE IS GREATER THAN 50% OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY VALUE, THOSE ARE THE KINDS THAT ARE TEMPTATION.

SAY, WELL, LET'S MOW DOWN THE HOUSE AND BUILD SOMETHING NEW.

THERE'S A LITTLE OVER 2000 PROPERTIES, UH, IN SAN ANTONIO TODAY, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES THAT MEET THAT AT RISK, A PROPERTY THAT WE COULD SEE, UH, DISAPPEAR IN THE NEXT, UH, FEW YEARS.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S ALSO INTERESTING IS THAT THE CHANGE IN VALUE OVER THE LAST DECADE, THE INCREASE IN VALUE HAS BEEN MUCH MORE ON THE OLDER HOUSES THAN THE NEWER HOUSES, FOR LOTS OF REASONS.

PART OF IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

THERE'S SIMPLY MORE BUYERS AT THE, AT THE LOWER END OF THE MARKET LOOKING FOR THAT PRICE OF PROPERTY, BUT ALSO THIS DEMAND FOR LAND.

YOU HAVE LAND VALUES GOING UP MORE THAN BUILDING VALUES AND THAT'S WHEN THE TEMPTATION IS, IF I'M A DEVELOPER AND I'M NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT AT ALL, BUT THAT'S THE TEMPTATION SAYING, LEMME GET RID OF THAT STUPID OLD HOUSE AND BUILD A FOURPLEX OR SOMETHING BIGGER OR, OR NEWER, MORE MODERN.

UM, WHAT'S ALSO, I THINK YOU'RE ALWAYS STRETCHING BUDGETS IN CITY GOVERNMENT IS THAT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR CREATING A UNIT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, ARE USING THE, THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT, UH, IS VIRTUALLY THE SAME NUMBER IN SAN ANTONIO AS IT IS FOR THE NATION.

BUT IN THE ONE PROJECT, WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT WHERE THE LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT, UH, WAS USED IN SAN ANTONIO, UH, THE, FOR REHABILITATION STATE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, ABOUT HALF THE COST.

AND INTERESTINGLY, THAT NUMBER IS ABOUT THE SAME AS LLOYD'S NUMBER ARE RECENTLY ON THE WHOLE HOUSE REHABILITATION PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE.

SO IT'S A PRETTY CONSISTENT NUMBER.

NOW, THE, THE UNICORN COMES DOWN AND YOU WAVE THE WAND AND YOU SOLVE ALL OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES IN SAN ANTONIO TODAY, TOMORROW YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.

UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT IN THE NEXT DECADE, EVEN IF THE RATE SLOWS IN SAN ANTONIO TO THE NATIONAL RATE OF GROWTH, YOU'RE GONNA ADD 81,000 JOBS.

THAT'S GREAT NEWS.

BUT THE FACT IS, SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THOSE JOBS ARE GONNA BE PAYING LESS THAN $30,000 A YEAR.

SO YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE PROBLEM, EVEN IF YOU COULD SOLVE IT ALL TODAY.

SO SOME POSSIBLE TOOLS, AND AGAIN, THERE'S A, A, A LONG LIST.

UH, WE REALLY DO THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO EXPAND THESE EXISTING EXCELLENT PROGRAMS. AND LORI TALKED ABOUT MANY OF THEM THAT ARE KIND OF RELATIVELY SMALL PROGRAMS FOR MAINTENANCE.

THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM, THE MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM, THE STAR PROGRAM, THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, A REALLY IMPORTANT KIND OF EARLY INTERVENTION.

WE FOUND A STUDY BY THE NATIONAL, UH, INSTITUTE OF BUILDING SCIENCES THAT SAYS, WHEN YOU DEFER MAINTENANCE, THAT WHEN YOU HAVE TO FINALLY ADDRESS IT COULD COST 15 TIMES AS MUCH.

AND THAT'S WHY THIS EARLY INTERVENTION IS SO FROM A FISCAL STANDPOINT, UH, SO CRITICAL.

UH, WE, ONE OF THE, UH, TOOLS IN HERE IS WE THINK DEMOLITION SHOULD COST MORE, IS THAT IF DEMOLITION IS HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT IN TWO FASHIONS, BOTH ON THE, ON THE LOSS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND THAT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THROWING STUFF AWAY, THEN IT'LL COST MORE.

AND MAYBE YOU DEDICATE THAT TO RESOLVING THE PROBLEM THAT'S BEING CREATED.

HOWEVER, THERE'S THIS PROPOSAL FOR A DECONSTRUCTION ORDINANCE, AND IF I WERE THE CZAR WRITING THE CITY ORDINANCE, I'D SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA RAISE THE DEMO COST.

BUT IF YOU AGREE TO THE DEMOLITION PIECE, YOU WILL LOWER IT BACK DOWN OR WAIVE IT OR WHATEVER.

UH, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT POLICY, AND AGAIN, THIS NOTHING, UM, IN THIS REPORT IS MAKING VILLAINS OUT OF ANYBODY.

UH, BUT TOO OFTEN IT SEEMS THAT DEMOLITION IS KIND OF THE DEFAULT RESPONSE.

WE HAVE A A PROBLEM, WE HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS, SOMEBODY'S COMPLAINED.

AND SO THE RESPONSE IS, WELL, THEN LET'S JUST TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN.

WELL, SOMETIMES THAT'S NECESSARY, BUT WE'RE, UH, CONVINCED THAT LOTS OF TIMES MORE CREATIVE AND IMAGINATIVE APPROACHES HAVE TO BE TAKEN OTHER THAN, UH, LET'S JUST TEAR IT DOWN.

UH, AGAIN, LORI MENTIONED THIS AND WE CAN'T, UH, EN, UH, ENDORSE IT MORE.

AND THAT'S THIS, UH, UH, AUXILIARY DWELLING UNIT TO CHANGE THE ZONING, WHATEVER IT TAKES HERE TO DO IT.

IT BECAUSE IT HAS A COUPLE, UH, ATTRIBUTES FOR AFFORDABILITY, FOR THE PERSON RENTING THAT SMALL UNIT.

IT'S GONNA BE GENERALLY A UNIT OF RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT ALSO MAKES THE PROPERTY OWNER'S HOUSE MORE AFFORDABLE BECAUSE SHE CAN GET PART OF HER MORTGAGE PAID BY THAT RENT IS BEING PAID BY THAT.

UM, UH, A D U.

AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT ADUS IS THEY REALLY HAVE A MINIMUM IMPACT ON THE CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IT'S NOT A DISRUPTIVE KIND OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE.

UH, NOT ABOUT VILLAINS, BUT OFTEN THREE BIG INSTITUTIONS, BENEFICENT INSTITUTIONS, HOSPITALS, CHURCHES, AND UNIVERSITIES, IN FACT EAT UP NEIGHBORHOODS LOTS OF TIMES FOR EXPANSION, LOTS OF TIMES FOR PARKING.

WELL, OKAY.

BUT WE THINK THAT THEY'RE AT LEAST, AND, AND, AND FRANKLY, THEY DON'T OFTEN TAKE THE SCRUTINY THAT A PRIVATE DEVELOPER TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING WOULD GET A BUNCH OF BOOZE IN THE, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OR HAPPENS MUCH LESS.

SO MAYBE INSTITUTIONS SHOULD BE REQUIRED WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY NEED THAT LAND TO RELOCATE THAT HOUSE TO A VACANT, UH, UH, LOT

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TO HAVE ANOTHER UNIT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THERE'S THOSE, AND THERE'S 30 OR SO OTHER TOOLS IN THE REPORT.

AND I JUST WANNA REPEAT THAT.

THEY'RE JUST IDEAS.

WE'RE NOT SAYING ADOPT THEM ALL TOMORROW, BUT AT LEAST TO EXPAND THE THINKING ABOUT WHAT THEY, UH, UH, THEY COULD BE.

BUT SOME KIND OF GENERAL CONCLUSIONS.

IT'S BOTH REAL AND IT'S SERIOUS.

NOBODY'S JOKING ABOUT THIS BEING A, THIS NOT A SKY IS FALLING.

THIS REALLY IS HAPPENING.

IT'S GONNA GET WORSE.

UH, MUCH OF OLDER HOUSING IS PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF NO SUBSIDY, NO INCENTIVE, NO NOTHING IS JUST THERE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE IT'S THEIR, UH, STANDING AND THAT HOUSING IS BEING LOST AT A RAPID RATE.

UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION CERTAINLY HAS TO BE, UH, PART OF THE SOLUTION.

UH, BUT THAT'S NEITHER GONNA BE CHEAP NOR SUFFICIENT, UH, WHICH MEANS AS MUCH OF POSSIBLE OF EXISTING HOUSING OUGHT TO BE SAVED FOR THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YOU GOT GREAT TOOLS IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT MAYBE INSUFFICIENT TOOLS TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE OF OLDER HOUSING.

AND THEN MAKING, FROM A KIND OF SELFISH STANDPOINT, FROM SAN ANTONIO, WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ABOUT WHAT CITIES ARE DOING AROUND THE COUNTRY AND ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

NOBODY IS PUTTING, EVERYBODY'S SAYING, YEAH, WE GOTTA KEEP SOME OLD STUFF.

NOBODY HAS THIS AS A TOP PRIORITY IN THEIR AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGY.

AND IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF SAN ANTONIO'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE AT THE CUTTING EDGE IF YOU CHOSE TO DO THAT.

UH, SO THANKS VERY MUCH.

AND I WANNA GO BACK TO THAT PRESENTATION BRIEFLY AND DO A WRAP UP.

AS DON MENTIONED, UM, THIS IS ALL ABOUT PROTECTING AND PRESERVING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED OUT IN THE MAYOR'S HOUSING FRAMEWORK.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL INITIATIVES UNDERWAY THAT ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE OUT OF DON'S REPORT.

UM, IT DOES RECOMMEND THAT WE ESTABLISH A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT DEVELOPED IN THE SPRING.

UM, ESTABLISHING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONES, ENCOURAGING A D U DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY THOSE AFFORDABLE ADUS AND THAT IMPLEMENT SINGLE FAMILY REHAB AND INFILL PILOT PROGRAMS, WHICH WE HAVE UNDERWAY.

AND WE HOPE TO DO 50 THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN OUR ONE-STOP SHOP.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.

WHAT DOES A ONE-STOP SHOP LOOK LIKE? IT, IS IT A, A PHYSICAL STRUCTURE OR IS AN ONLINE STRUCTURE WITH A TRAINING CURRICULUM WHERE WE TRAIN THE CHURCHES ON HOW TO USE THIS ONLINE, UM, TOOL? BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, PEOPLE GO TO THEM AND WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE USING THE SAME RESOURCE WHEN THEY'RE GIVING INFORMATION.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE WORKING ON, BUT IT'S IN COMPLETE ALIGNMENT WITH THE MAYOR'S HOUSING TASK FORCE REPORT.

AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK SHANNON'S OFFICE FOR REALLY CHAMPIONING HOW WE PROTECT AND PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LORI.

UM, AND SHANNON AND DON FOR THE REPORT.

DON, THAT REPORT WAS STUNNING.

UM, AND I REALLY WISH YOU WENT A LITTLE BIT SLOWER, BUT PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ABSORB THIS OVER THE NEXT, UH, SEVERAL WEEKS.

BUT, UH, IT CERTAINLY SPEAKS TO A NUMBER OF THE ELEMENTS OF OUR HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE THAT WE'VE BEEN GRAPPLING WITH FOR, UH, MORE THAN A YEAR LONG TIME ACTUALLY.

UH, AND UNDERSCORES THE NEED FOR US TO DO A BETTER JOB OF PRESERVING EXISTING HOUSING STOCK.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE BEEN READING, UM, THE COMMENTS THAT, UH, THIS BODY HAS, UM, MADE AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH, UH, TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHER ASSOCIATIONS, AND THE WORK THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, IT IS, UH, REALLY CALLING FOR WHAT'S IN THIS REPORT, WHICH IS A FULL COURT PRESS ON HOW WE, UH, PRESERVE EXISTING HOUSING STOCK AS AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS.

I DO HOPE WE GET POOR, WE POUR OVER IT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH, UM, UP HERE.

UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

AND, AND I KNOW WE'RE GETTING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME PUBLICLY.

I DO HOPE WE GET TO, UM, DISTRIBUTE IT A BIT.

UH, HAS THIS GONE TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS WITH THIS REPORT? BECAUSE, UH, I SEE THE TOP LINE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOU, LORI.

UH, I THINK WE OUGHT TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, QUICKLY, UH, TO ESTABLISH THOSE.

BUT, UM, WANTING TO SEE OTHER FEEDBACK ON THIS, AND WE ARE GONNA BE BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO THE HOUSING COMMISSION AND THEN THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.

GREAT.

UM, WE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRESENTATION ON THE SAME DAY.

YEAH.

WELL, I, I THINK IT'S MAGNIFICENT WORK.

VERY, UH, VERY WELL DONE AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT IMPLEMENTED.

THANK YOU, DON.

UM, I DID WANNA TAKE SOME TIME, UH, JUST TO REFLECT A BIT, UH, ON WHERE WE ARE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO EVERYONE WHO'S HERE, UH, WORKING ON THE HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE WORK.

UH, WE HAVE NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT OUGHT TO BE THANKED.

UM, AND I DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT WE, WE'VE SEEN QUITE A PIVOT OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.

UH, THE PRIORITY.

IT'S GIVEN THE BODY HERE, UM, AND, AND

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MORE SO FOCUSED WHEN WE STARTED THAT DECADE OF DOWNTOWN.

I THINK WE'RE ALL FOCUSED ON A NUMBER OF UNITS WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE AT THIS POINT.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE CONVERSATION IS MUCH MORE ABOUT HOW HOUSING SERVES PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO THE NUMBER OF UNITS WE WANNA SEE DEVELOPED.

AND I THINK THAT'S QUITE A, A, A TRANSFORMATION IN OUR APPROACH.

UH, SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO'S CONTRIBUTED TO THE PRESENTATIONS.

I DO WANNA ALSO RECOGNIZE THE FOLKS HERE FROM THE HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE, OF COURSE, UH, STARTING WITH OUR, UH, CHAIR LORDES CASTER RAMIREZ.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE, LORD, THIS, I THINK JIM BAILEY IS HERE AS WELL.

YOU'RE HIDING BACK THERE.

THANK YOU, JIM.

UH, AND THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSING COMMISSIONER ARE HERE, INCLUDING LOES, UH, PAUL AWA, UH, PETE ALANIS, UM, DAVID CIO, CIO, UH, FROM THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY, AS WELL AS OUR, UH, BOARD MEMBER CHA GUZMAN.

I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR WORK ON THE BOARD, UH, DR.

GUZMAN.

UM, I ALSO WANNA THANK MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNCIL THAT ARE SERVING ON THE HOUSING POLICY, EXCUSE ME, THE HOUSING TRUST, P F C, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE THAT ARE WORKING HARD TO IMPLEMENT THESE STRATEGIES.

UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE PIPELINE, AND I APPRECIATE STAFF FOCUSING PARTICULARLY ON DEEPER AFFORDABILITY.

THE A M I LEVELS OF 30%, WHERE WE'RE REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT WE'RE FALLING BEHIND ON, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE, UH, INCOME AVERAGING IS, IS WORKING TO, TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT ALSO THE WORK TO PREVENT DISPLACEMENT, UH, INCLUDING, UH, THE, THE STUDY WORK THAT'S BEEN ACCELERATED, BUT ALSO THE RISK MITIGATION FUND THAT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED.

I AM A PROUD MEMBER OF THE FOR EVERYONE HOME INITIATIVE.

AND LORI, CAN YOU GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHERE THAT IS IN TERMS OF THE WORK, UH, FOR EVERYONE HOME? THE INITIATIVE FOR THE FOR EVERYONE HOME INITIATIVE, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN PHASE ONE, WHICH IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

UM, THEY'VE COME IN AND DONE SEVERAL INTERVIEWS, DONE SEVERAL TOURS, UM, TO LOOK TO SEE WHERE THE NEEDS ARE.

UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY'RE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE TO INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES FROM SAGE.

WE HAVE TUESDAY NIGHT.

WE ALSO HAVE SAHA.

UM, YOU YOURSELF ARE SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE ALONG WITH VERO SOTO, UM, AND ESPERANZA, PEACE, PEACE AND JUSTICE.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS COMMUNITY LED AND THE INFORMATION IS COMING FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL COMMITTEE IN JUNE, UM, JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.

OKAY.

FIRST QUARTER.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE VICTORIA GONZALEZ FROM MY, UH, STAFF WHO'S BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON, ON THAT INITIATIVE.

UM, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE SOME OF, I'M SORRY, IF YOU CAN COME BACK UP, LAURIE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE, THE STRATEGIES THAT YOU CAN POINT TO RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, TO INCLUDE CODE DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND HOW WE HANDLE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS FOR, UH, FOR REMOVING BARRIERS AND, AND THIS WHOLE PROCESS IN GENERAL? MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR OKAY.

TO JIM TOO.

YEAH.

UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, VERONICA SOTO.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES.

I ALSO SERVE ON THE FOR EVERYONE HOME INITIATIVE.

AND JUST YESTERDAY WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE CONFERENCE CALL WITH OUR COHORTS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING MICRO DATA, AND THERE IS INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE IMMEDIATE IMPACTS WHEN IT COMES TO CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES.

SO JUST IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, ONE OF THE EFFORTS WE HAVE DONE IS THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAD CO-TRAINING WITH OUR OFFICE ABOUT ALL OF OUR, UH, HOUSING REHAB PROGRAMS. UM, THEY ALSO ARE PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO ALL OF US KEEP RUNNING INTO EACH OTHER AT ALL THE MEETINGS.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO GATHERING A LOT OF DATA WHEN IT COMES TO CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED AND WHAT ARE THE CHANGES IN OUR APPROACH THAT WE CAN MAKE.

UM, THEY'RE VERY MUCH A PARTNER WITH US, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

BUT WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE CALL YESTERDAY WHERE WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW WE'RE CHANGING THE TENOR OF THE CONVERSATION, HOW WE'RE LISTENING TO COMMUNITY INPUT, HOW WE ARE, UH, TAKING, UM, MICRO LEVEL INFORMATION FROM THE PEOPLE IMPACTED DIRECTLY AND HELPING THEM BE THE ONES TO INFORM OUR POLICY MOVING FORWARDS.

INTERVENTIONS THAT LORI ALREADY MENTIONED INCLUDE, OF COURSE, THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT STONES, BUT THERE ARE ALSO OTHER THINGS INTERNALLY THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT FRONT.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, VERO.

AND, UM, NOT SURE WHOSE QUESTION THIS IS, BUT LORI, YOU ALSO MENTIONED THE RIGHT TO COUNCIL PILOT, UM, SOMETHING THAT, UH, OTHER CITIES ARE BEGUN, WE ALLOCATED MONEY TOWARDS.

CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT? SURE.

SO THAT ACTUALLY FALLS INTO OUR RISK MITIGATION WORK.

UM, LAST NIGHT WE HAD A MEETING WHERE, UM, IT REALLY IS VERY MUCH COMMUNITY

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LED.

UM, NIKKI, I FORGOT HER LAST NAME, I THINK IT'S HALEY, UM, IS A RECIPIENT OF THE RISK MITIGATION FUNDS, AND SHE'S ALSO ONE OF OUR FACILITATORS FOR THIS.

AND SO AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, THEY TOO HAD INPUT ON THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE HAVE A DRAFT OF.

OUR GOAL IS TO FINALIZE THE RISK MITIGATION REPORT, INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE RIGHT TO COUNSEL, HAVE THE SCOPE OF WORK FINALIZED, UM, IN THE NEXT WEEK AND A HALF, AND THEN, UH, BE ABLE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT IN JANUARY SO WE CAN START SERVING FAMILIES.

THAT MONEY IS GONNA FUND A POSITION THAT'S THE SCOPE OF WORK WE'RE DEVELOPING THAT WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE LEGAL SERVICES FOR PEOPLE FACING EVICTION.

UH, WE WERE WORKING ON THE METRICS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RESOLVING ON NOW, BUT IT WILL BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH TEXAS RURAL LEGAL AID.

UH, WE ARE STILL RECEIVING INPUT JUST YESTERDAY OR TODAY, WE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL FEED FEEDBACK ON THAT, AGAIN, C MEETING LAST NIGHT, HELPED US INFORM THAT WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY MEETING ON THE RISK MITIGATION FUND, INCLUDING RISK MITIGATION, I MEAN, THE RIGHT TO COUNCIL, UH, MONDAY.

AND THAT'LL BE ONE OF THE LAST PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HAVE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

BUT WE'RE GONNA COME AND BRING THAT FORWARD, UH, FOR SERVICES IN JANUARY.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, SIR.

YEAH.

AND I, I WOULD SAY, UH, WITH REGARD TO THAT, AND, AND REALLY THIS WHOLE PROCESS IN GENERAL, WE DO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE ALL THE WORK OF, UM, NEIGHBORS IN, IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED, STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEES, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN GENERAL, THAT HAS LED US TO THIS PROCESS.

SO, UH, I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE THE WORK OF THE TASK FORCE AND STARTING AN EFFORT TO WHERE COMMUNITIES ARE ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS OF POLICY MAKING.

WE'RE SEEING THAT TAKE PLACE WITH SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE ON COUNCIL RIGHT NOW THIS WEEK.

BUT, UH, I DO WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO, UH, THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN PART OF THESE COMMITTEES THAT HAVE HELPED PRODUCE THE POLICIES THAT THEY'RE SEEING, UH, UNFOLD RIGHT NOW.

AND I DON'T WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GLOSS OVER THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PRODUCING, UH, THE TRANSFORMATION IN THE AGENDA ON HOUSING THAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, TO THOSE MEMBERS WHO HAVE LEANED IN ON THE PROCESS.

UH, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO COUNCIL, UH, QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIA GRIME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

LORI, DON, YOU KNOW, I'M A FAN, SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.

UM, AND I THINK YOU'RE, I'M ALWAYS EXCITED TO HAVE OTHERS HERE.

THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING INTERNATIONALLY AND HOW WE ARE BENEFITING FROM IT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

UM, I THINK I WANT TO JUMP INTO, WELL, THE POLICIES, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING THIS AT THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE KNOWN, I THINK WE'VE FELT THAT HAS, HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT NOW WE HAVE THE DATA TO PROVE AND BACK IT UP AND TO KNOW THAT WHERE WE NEED TO BE REINVESTING BECAUSE, UM, EVER SINCE THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS YEARS AGO THAT WE KNOW THAT THE MOST AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THAT THAT'S ALREADY BUILT AND EXISTING.

SO WHAT CAN WE DO? I KNOW IN THE P F C, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE DOLLARS IN UNDER ONE ROOF, BUT ALSO THE OWNER OCCUPIED AND ALSO MINOR REHAB.

I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ AND MYSELF AND OTHERS HAVE ALWAYS FELT THAT WE NEED TO INVEST MORE DOLLARS INTO THIS, INTO THOSE PROGRAMS. AND I THINK THIS IS JUST SOME MORE DATA THAT IS BACKING THAT UP.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.

GOING BACK TO YOUR, TO THE HOUSING STRATEGY, UM, AND THE RECALIBRATION OF, OF HOUSING GOALS.

WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE P F C, UH, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE ON LOAN OF HEAT ALANISE, AND I KNOW, UM, HE, HE IS THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE DOING THAT SEARCH FOR OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH THE P F C AND THE FINANCE CORP.

UM, AND, UM, TO, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION THAT HE IS, UH, PETE IS NOT NECESSARILY, IS NOT NECESSARILY DOING THE POLICIES, HE IS GATHERING ALL OF THE INFORMATION, PUTTING IT TOGETHER BECAUSE WITH THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THAT IS WHO WE WANT TO CREATE THE POLICIES WITH AND GET THE CALIBRATION IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE POLICIES.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE COORDINATING AND MAKING SURE THAT YES, WE ARE IN, UM, WE ARE TOGETHER CHEERING ON THE SAME, UM, POLICIES AND WELL, THE SAME ISSUES WITH THE SAME GOALS, BUT THAT THE P F C AND THE HOUSING TRUST IS, OR WITH THE P F C AND THE FFC ARE SEPARATE FROM THE CITY TOO, BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE THAT, UM, THAT LEVERAGING ABILITY THAT WE, WE HAVE.

SO I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AND YES, WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE HOUSING TRUST FOUNDATION AND OTHERS TO KNOW THAT, UM, WE'RE TALKING TO EACH OTHER, THAT WE

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KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS.

AND I, I THINK YOU HAVE THIS HERE, UM, AND SOME OF THE POLICIES, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, THAT HAVE EVEN BEEN DISCUSSED YESTERDAY, OR WAS IT YESTERDAY? IT WAS YESTERDAY.

UM, SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS AS WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH, UM, POLICIES THAT WE WANTED, WE LOVE THE INCOME, INCOME AVERAGING OPPORTUNITIES, INSTEAD OF US NECESSARILY HAVING TO BUY DOWN NOW TO 30% IN INCOME AVERAGING IS ALLOWING US TO HAVE MORE OF THAT FLEXIBILITY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT AS JUST A STANDARD, UH, SETTING THAT IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMING LOOKING FOR, FOR DEALS WITH US, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE GONNA START TALKING ABOUT IS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, I KNOW THE COUNCIL MEMBER VINNO PUT A C C R TOGETHER FOR A RENTER'S, UH, COMMISSION AND HAS BEEN HEARD OR NOT HEARD HAS NOT BEEN HEARD YET.

SO, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CONVERSATION.

BUT ALSO, UM, THE REPORTING THAT'S BEEN DONE ABOUT EVICTIONS, THAT IF WE ARE PUTTING MONEY INTO MULTI-FAMILY, INTO, UM, MULTI-FAMILY UNITS THAT, UM, THESE COMPANIES MAY BE, ARE THEY HIRING COMPANIES THAT ARE CALLED, LIKE KICK 'EM OUT QUICK OR OTHERS? AND SHOULD OUR MONEY BE PUT INTO THOSE PARTNERED WITH THAT, LET'S HAVE THESE DIFFERENT, UM, OUTLINES.

AND THEN I ALSO WANNA THANK PETE AND HIS TEAM AND OUR TEAM WITH THE P F C THAT WENT OUT AND MET WITH THE TENANTS OF THE, UH, PAN AMERICAN, THE TENANT ASSOCIATION TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE, THE ISSUES THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE WITH THEIR, UM, WITH THEIR REHAB.

SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT FACT, AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING NEW THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.

EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO YOU ALREADY SEE A CHANGE IN TONE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE FINANCE CORP AND THE HOUSING AND THE HOUSING TRUST, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

UM, NEXT ONE THING WITH THE MINOR HOME REPAIR AND WITH OUR, UM, UNDER ONE ROOF A BIG ISSUE, I'M SORRY, I KEEP CALLING.

A BIG ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO DO IS NOT JUST KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, BUT ALSO, UM, MAKE IT EASIER FOR TITLES AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE HOMEOWNERS HAVE CLEAR TITLES THAT THEY CAN GET ALL OF THESE, THESE, UM, AMENITIES FOR THEMSELVES AND, AND FOR HELPING WITH THEIR, UM, WITH THEIR COMMUNITIES.

BUT WITH THAT, I NEED TO TAKE A PAUSE AND I, UH, YIELD MY TIME.

THANK YOU.

WELL, WELCOME BACK TO YOU COUNCILWOMAN.

UH, I COUNCILWOMAN JADA.

ANDREW SULLIVAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO, TO TRULY THANK MIKE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

UM, I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING READY TO TAKE A BIG LEAP THERE, MIKE, AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA TRULY MISS HAVING YOU AROUND, BUT CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEXT STEP AND YOUR ELEVATION IN WHERE YOU ARE HEADED IN YOUR PURSUIT OF LIFE.

AND SO, UM, I KNOW THEY HOSTED TWO CONTRACTORS, UM, AND DEVELOPER FAIRS FOR US, WHICH WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT THE REHAB AND INFILL, UM, PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AS A CITY.

AND SO, LAURIE, I PROBABLY HAVE MOST OF THESE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

UM, AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIMEFRAME AND THE AMOUNT ALLOTTED FOR A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE REHAB AND INFIELD WORK, DO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT THAT WILL BE ALLOTTED TO EACH HOUSE AND THE TIMEFRAME THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO HAVE THAT WORK COMPLETED? UM, IT'LL, THE AMOUNT WILL BE UP TO $50,000.

AND IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF PROJECT.

IF THEY'RE DOING A NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

SO IF THEY'RE BUILDING A BRAND NEW HOME ON A LOT THAT THEY CONTROL, UM, ONCE AGAIN, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE CONSTRUCTION FINANCING FROM LISC.

ONCE THEY BUILD THE CROP, THE PROJECT, WE WILL GIVE THEM A GRANT TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THEM TO SELL THAT AT A DISCOUNTED RATE.

SO WHEN A FAMILY, UM, CAN PURCHASE IT AND AFFORDABLE RATE.

AND SO IF THE PRICE DIFFERENTIATION IS MAYBE FROM ONE 40 TO ONE 20 FOR, TO MEET THE FAMILY'S A M I REQUIREMENTS, THEN THEY'LL GET A $20,000, YOU KNOW, UM, GRANT TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THAT, THAT LOSS.

NOW, EACH OF THESE PROJECTS, THE DEVELOPERS WILL BE ABLE TO GET THEIR REGULAR RETURN THAT YOU NORMALLY WOULD GET, UM, IN THE PROJECT, BUT WE ARE REALLY JUST BUYING DOWN THE COST SO THEY CAN SELL AT THAT AFFORDABLE RATE.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UM, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE NEXT QUESTION.

MM-HMM.

AS FAR AS WHAT IS THE CONTRACTOR'S ACTUAL RATE OF, OF, OF INVESTMENT, WHAT ARE, WHETHER THEY GONNA SEE

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BACK, I KNOW SOME OF THE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT, UH, MANY OF THE CONTRACTORS HAD WAS, IS THIS COMING OUTTA THEIR POCKET FIRST? HOW DO THEY PAY FOR THEIR, THEIR EMPLOYEE FEES? UM, WHAT DOES THAT STRUCTURE TRULY LOOK LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THEY GET THE WORK DONE? MM-HMM.

, SO IT, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME AS THEY WOULD DO FOR A REGULAR NEW CONSTRUCTION MARKET RATE HOME.

WE ARE JUST PURCHASING OR BUYING DOWN THE DIFFERENCE.

SO THEY CAN SELL AN AFFORDABLE RATE, SO THEY WOULD GO FORWARD WITH THE STAFFING LEVELS.

THEY NORMALLY WOULD DO, THEY WOULD STILL GET THE RETURN THEY NORMALLY WOULD GET.

BUT WE'RE COVERING THOSE COSTS THAT ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO BE SOLD OR SOLD AT AN AFFORD, AN AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE RATE.

AND WHERE THAT MONEY COMES IN, WE CAN WORK WITH A DEVELOPER ON THAT.

OKAY.

AND SO WHAT IF IT EXCEEDS THAT 50,000 THAT WE ARE CAPPED AT $50,000? THAT IS THE PROGRAM, THAT IS THE CAP.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, THE PRICE POINT OF WHAT WE AS A CITY TO PURCHASE, UM, WITH THE INFIELD OR WITH THE, THE HOUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE REHABBED, DO WE HAVE A SET PRICE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO PURCHASE, UM, THOSE HOMES, OR WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WE ARE ONLY PURCHASING HOMES THAT ARE VACANT AND THE DO NOT DISPLACE ANYONE.

AND SO THAT, THAT IS OUR CRITERIA.

AND SO WE WANNA PURCHASE THOSE HOMES THAT ARE VACANT AND THEY MIGHT BE CONTRIBUTING TO SOME BLIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOW WE WANNA SELL HOMES AND WE'RE ONLY SELLING HOMES AT THAT 120% A M I LEVEL OR BELOW, BUT WHAT ARE WE AS A CITY ACTUALLY PURCHASING? WHAT IS OUR PRICE POINT TO PURCHASE? SO ON LOTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO $35,000 FOR LOTS.

AND THEN FOR HOMES THAT MAY BE ANYWHERE FROM 70 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AWESOME.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, LOOKING AT THE DISTRICTS, I KNOW YOU SAID THERE'S DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FIVE THAT WE'RE STARTING IN, RIGHT? YES.

MM-HMM.

, AND WE'RE DOING 10 HOMES, EACH DISTRICT, AT LEAST 10 HOMES IN EACH DISTRICT.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

WELL, THAT'S REALLY ALL OF THE QUESTIONS I REALLY HAD AS FAR AS THE, THE REHAB AND INFIELD PROGRAM.

AND THEN HAVE WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, WHEN WE DO OUR INFIELD, WHAT KIND, UH, THE CONTAINER HOMES, HOW THAT PRICING POINT WOULD BE BASED ON COMPLETE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF, OF HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY, UM, LOOKED AT IN THE MARKET.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CONTAINER HOMES, AND WE ARE DOING THAT WORK THROUGH THE U D C COMMITTEE THAT JIM BAILEY'S CHAIRING.

BUT, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE CONTAINER HOMES IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

IT DOES REQUIRE A LOT OF COMMUNITY DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT IS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT GOING INTO AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.

AWESOME.

AND THEN AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR VACANT, LIKE OLD APARTMENT UNITS OR HOTEL UNITS THAT ARE NOW JUST SITTING THERE, HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED, IS THAT A PROGRAM THAT WE AS A CITY ARE GONNA START LOOKING INTO? UM, IN REFERENCE TO THE REHAB, UM, SERVICES THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO? WELL, WE DEFINITELY DO HAVE SOME FUNDING AVAILABLE WHERE WE CAN PURCHASE VACANT MULTI-FAMILY OR VACANT BUILDINGS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADAPTIVE REUSE.

AND, UM, WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT THE VACANT BUILDING REGISTRY THAT THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADMINISTERS FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT.

AWESOME.

UM, I'M THINKING BECAUSE IN DISTRICT TWO WE HAVE SEVERAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE JUST THERE.

MM-HMM.

, THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS, AND NOBODY'S REALLY USING THEM EVEN OVER BY ST.

PHILIP'S.

MM-HMM.

, I THINK THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, HOUSING FOR STUDENTS, STUDENT HOUSING, UM, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO, I KNOW YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX AND WHEN IT IS A HOUSE THAT'S MM-HMM.

REHABBED OR, UM, BROUGHT UP TO A A DIFFERENT LEVEL.

HOW, UM, ARE WE AS A CITY, WHEN WE COME TO DOING THE REHABS ON THESE, UM, VACANT AND OLDER HOMES, HOW ARE WE REALLY PRESERVING, UM, THAT HOME THAT IS NEXT TO IT THAT HASN'T BEEN, UH, REHABBED OR MODIFIED IN ANY OTHER WAY? THAT IS THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE FACING.

AND SO, UM, IF WE ARE DOING A HOME, WE DEFINITELY WANNA REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBOR TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE.

UM, BUT THE ISSUE OF YOUR TAXES GOING UP AS A RESULT OF YOU IMPRO YOUR NEIGHBOR, IMPROVING THEIR HOME IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

UM, THERE WAS A BILL LAST SESSION THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT TO EXPAND TO PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T BEING IMPROVED.

IF IT WAS WITHIN A ZONE, UM, IT DID NOT MAKE IT VERY FAR.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM,

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STAKEHOLDERS ARE HELPING US GET THROUGH THE NEXT SESSION.

OKAY.

AND THEN, ARE WE ASSISTING, SINCE WE'RE DOING THE AFFORDABLE PIECE OF THE REHAB AND MM-HMM.

AND GETTING THE HOUSES DOWN TO AN AFFORDABLE PURCHASE PRICE, ARE WE LOOKING AT, UM, HELPING THAT HOMEOWNER WHEN THEY MOVE IN WITH THEIR TAXES? OR WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GOING IN DOING A JOB AND LEAVING.

WE'RE MAKING SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF ALL OF THE PROGRAMS AVAILABLE.

SO IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE, UM, FOR THAT ANOTHER TAX FREEZE OR A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WANNA MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THEM.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU, LORI.

THANK YOU.

EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU, UM, TO THE MAYOR THAT, UH, PUT THE TASK FORCE TOGETHER AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN.

COUNCILWOMAN.

KABE.

YHA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, OKAY.

SO IN THE AGENDA MEMO, UM, IT WAS OUTLINED THE, THE INCREASE, THE, THE BUDGET INCREASE, IT WAS INCREASED BY 9 MILLION, UM, IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE DISTRICT BY DISTRICT'S OUTPUTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUDGET INCREASES? I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE EXPLANATION, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE 10 MILLION FROM, UM, WHERE IS IT, UH, FROM THE GENERAL FUND, 14 MILLION FROM HOME AND C D B D.

JUST THOSE, THOSE INCREASES HOW THEY'RE ALLOCATED.

YES.

I CAN SEE THE, AND JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION.

UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE PARTICIPATING IN 2019 OR AT LEAST THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE, AND THEN WE EXPECT TO PARTICIPATE THIS YEAR? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY HOMES WHO WILL BE ABLE TO HELP? YEAH.

HOW MANY HOMES? UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THIS AS A HOUSING SYSTEM AND COORDINATING WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS BECAUSE, UM, I CAN GIVE YOU THE NUMBER OF HOW MANY WAS ABOUT FIVE FOR ONE PROGRAM.

WE DO IT FOR ALL.

BUT, SO FOR DISTRICTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019, WE HAD THE $26.1 MILLION BUDGET.

AND YOU'RE ASKING HOW IT INCREASED FROM 13 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN GRANTS TO $14 MILLION IN GRANTS IN FISCAL YEAR 2020? WELL, NO, NOT EXACTLY.

THE, THE, THE 9 MILLION INCREASE OVERALL UHHUH FROM 26 TO ABOUT 35.

YES.

WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE GON, WHAT ARE THE DISTRICT BY DISTRICT OUTPUTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT INCREASE? SO WE, WE DON'T HAVE IT BROKEN OUT DISTRICT BY DISTRICT.

WE LOOK REALLY AT THE NEED.

SO WE, LIKE, WE'RE FOCUSING ON DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FIVE ON THE INFILL AREAS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE NEED IS.

BUT WE HAVE PROJECTS WITHIN EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT SPREADSHEET THAT I GAVE YOU MM-HMM.

, YOU CAN SEE WHICH PROJECTS ARE IN DISTRICT 10, UM, WHETHER IT'S A MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING PROJECT OR A SINGLE FAMILY PROJECT, BUT WE DO HAVE IT DIVIDED, UM, BY COUNCIL DISTRICT AS WELL.

IS THIS THE RENTAL, THE THE RENTAL UNIT, NEW CONSTRUCTION REHAB? IS THAT THE SPREADSHEET YOU'RE TALKING? THAT'S ONE SPREADSHEET.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE OWNER, YEAH, OWNER NEW CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

I SEE THAT.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IN, UM, FOR ONE OF THE PROGRAMS, WHICH WAS THE, WHICH PROGRAM IS IT? MINOR REPAIR? THE MINOR REPAIR, UM, WE EXPECT TO DO SIX PROJECTS IN DISTRICT SIX, 10 IN DISTRICT TWO, EIGHT IN DISTRICT THREE, FOUR IN DISTRICT FOUR, EIGHT IN DISTRICT FIVE, AND ABOUT 10.

OKAY.

IN DISTRICT SIX THROUGH 10, SO ABOUT TWO PER EACH DISTRICT AFTER THAT.

OKAY.

BUT THE GREATEST NEED IS TYPICALLY WITHIN DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FIVE.

I DISPUTE THAT.

.

OKAY.

THAT IS MY JOB.

COUNCILWOMAN.

UM, YES MA'AM.

FOR SEVERAL PROGRAMS, WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC TARGETS BY DISTRICT, JUST LIKE LARRY.

UM, LORI MENTIONED, SO PROGRAMS LIKE OUR MINOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM HAVE SPECIFIC TARGETS, NUMBER OF CLIENTS AND THE ALLOCATED FUNDING, IT'S THE SAME FOR OUR OWNER OCCUPIED PROGRAM.

OKAY.

WHERE WE APPLIED THE EQUITY EQUITY METRIC, AND WE SAID FOR THE OWNER OCCUPIED PROGRAM WITH THE ALLOCATED FUNDING, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA DO PER DISTRICT.

SO THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC IN THAT WAY.

UNDER ONE ROOF IS THE SAME WAY.

WE HAVE A SET BUDGET, WE DID THE MATH, WE DIVIDED IT THROUGH THE EQUITY METRICS THAT WE UTILIZE.

AND SO WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA DELIVER X FOR THIS PROGRAM IN YOUR DISTRICT.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE NOT MAPPED LIKE THAT.

FOR EXAMPLE, OUR HOUSING TAX CREDITS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE ONES THAT CONTROL WHERE THE LOCATION OF THOSE WILL BE.

AND SO I WOULD SAY LITTLE OVER HALF OF THE BUDGET IN OUR PROGRAM HAS METRICS THAT EVERY MONTH WE TRACK AND WE REPORT ON LAST YEAR, EVERY MONTH WE WOULD REPORT ON WHERE WE WERE.

UM, AND SO HALF OUR, MORE THAN HALF OF OUR PROGRAMS, I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW MANY UNITS, HOW MANY FAMILIES WILL BE SERVED IN YOUR DISTRICT.

OKAY.

BUT FOR THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COME IN FOR 9% TAX CREDIT APPLICATIONS WHEN THAT APPLICATION CLOSES

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ON JANUARY 3RD.

BUT THE DAY I KNOW HOW MANY CAME IN IS THE DAY YOU'LL KNOW HOW MANY ARE IN YOUR DISTRICT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND YOU ARE ALWAYS VERY, UM, PROMPT WITH THAT INFORMATION, SO I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I'M SPECIFICALLY, UM, I'M THINKING ABOUT IN MY DISTRICT, THE EDGEWOOD AREAS IS AN AREA OF NEED.

UM, SO, UH, ON THAT SAME KIND OF NOTE, WELL, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, IS THERE A TIMEFRAME FOR IMPLEMENTATION IN DISTRICT SIX THROUGH 10? I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN? IS THERE A TIMEFRAME FOR IMPLEMENTATION? UM, STARTING TO INCLUDE DISTRICT SIX THROUGH 10 IN, IN, AS FAR AS A FOCUS.

SO FOR THE, UH, PROGRAMS I MENTIONED, OWNER OCCUPIED, MINOR REPAIR, UNDER ONE ROOF, THOSE, THOSE SIMILAR PROGRAMS WE'RE ALREADY STARTED WITH THAT.

OKAY.

AND I CAN ALREADY TELL YOU FOR EACH OF THOSE, HOW MANY WE'RE GONNA DO IN YOUR DISTRICT AND HOW MANY APPLICANTS WE HAVE IN THE PIPELINE.

OKAY.

ALREADY.

UM, SO FOR THAT ONE THAT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY MM-HMM.

, THE PILOT PROJECTS ARE THE ONES THAT, UH, ARE TAKING A LITTLE BIT LONGER BECAUSE, UM, THEY ARE NEW.

UM, WE'RE RAMPING UP, WE HAVE IT SET UP, BUT I STILL DON'T KNOW, EVEN IN DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FIVE, HOW MANY HOMES ARE GONNA BE IN THOSE DISTRICTS.

WE HAVE AN ALLOCATION, WE HAVE A MINIMUM TARGET, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA SAY NO TO OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY COME FORWARD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ON THAT SAME VEIN, ARE THE, ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE CHIEF HOUSING OFFICERS DISTRICT BY DISTRICT GOALS? ARE THERE DISTRICT BY DISTRICT GOALS? THE, THE CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER'S ROLE IS REALLY GOING TO BE, ENSURE THE COORDINATION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT'S UNDERDEVELOPED AND THE H HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND SO THAT IS, THAT IS GOING TO BE A PLAN.

AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAS DISTRICT BY DISTRICT GOALS WILL DEPENDENT ON THE PLAN.

OKAY.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WILL BE GOALS WITHIN THE ESSAY TOMORROW SUB PLANS.

AND SO IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHICH ONES ARE IN YOUR DISTRICT, THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THOSE GOALS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, JUST WANNA TAKE A MOMENT.

I, ALTHOUGH I'LL THANK EVERYBODY THAT, THAT OF COURSE HAS WORKED SO HARD ON THIS.

MM-HMM.

, I ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE MY GOOD FRIEND LAPEL WHO'S MADE IT, HER, UM, PART, A BIG PART OF HER LIFE'S WORK IS HOUSING.

AND I APPRECIATE HER, UM, UH, YEARS AGO STARTING TO TEACH ME ABOUT HOUSING.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

'CAUSE IT WASN'T EASY.

I KNOW.

BUT I ALSO THANK DON FOR, UH, YOUR PRESENTATION.

UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION AND YOUR ENTHUSIASM FOR THE TOPIC, AND I THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED, AND SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND THE ENTERTAINING, UM, ANALOGY OF THE TERMITES MADE US LAUGH UP HERE.

SO THANK YOU, .

WE DON'T GET A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO LAUGH UP HERE, SO THANK YOU.

BUT, UM, ON THAT, SO THE, THE THIRD IN THAT AGENDA, UH, MEMO, THERE WAS A, THAT THIRD BULLET, IT MENTIONED, UM, THE, THAT THAT SAN ANTONIO IS EXPERIENCING GREATER NATIONAL AVERAGE GROWTH IN JOBS AND HOUSING, BUT THE HOMES ARE BIG.

AND THEN THE, THE JOB GROWTH IS IN KIND OF LOWER, UH, LEVEL, UM, INCOME LEVELS.

RIGHT? SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE, OUR, OUR STAFF'S ECONOMIC ELASTICITY GOAL FOR THAT, THAT SITUATION?

[2. 19-8919 Briefing regarding a study on the contributions of existing, older housing stock to meeting affordable housing goals. [Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Shanon Miller, Director, Office of Historic Preservation]]

YEAH.

UH, 2, 2, 2 DIFFERENT THINGS I THINK ON THAT.

OKAY.

ONE IS, AND ACTUALLY WE JUST LIFTED THE DATA OUT OF ONE OF THE TWO GREAT EARLIER STUDIES THAT HAD BEEN DONE ABOUT THE WAGE LEVELS GOING UP AT THIS RATE AND THE HOUSING PRICE LEVELS GOING UP AT THAT RATE.

AND SO THIS GAP BETWEEN WHAT PEOPLE ARE EARNING AND WHAT IT COSTS 'EM TO BE HOUSED IS GETTING WIDER AND WIDER.

SO THAT'S ONE PIECE OF IT.

THE SECOND PIECE OF IT IS IN THE NATURE OF WHERE THE JOB GROWTH WILL BE, AND IT'S WONDERFUL THAT YOU'RE GROWING JOBS, BUT THERE IS A, A SIZABLE SHARE OF, OF BOTH JOBS TODAY AND JOBS IN THE FUTURE THAT ARE RELATIVELY MODEST PAYING JOBS.

AND SO WHAT WE DID, METHODOLOGICALLY, WE LOOKED AT ALL THE JOB CATEGORIES IN SAN ANTONIO.

WE TOOK THE NATIONAL, UH, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR'S PROJECTIONS ON THE GROWTH IN THOSE JOBS TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, IF YOU HAVE X NUMBER OF WIDGET MAKERS TODAY, THAT'S GONNA GROW AT 3% A YEAR.

SO 10 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU'LL HAVE Y NUMBER AND THEY ARE PAID X.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE CALCULATIONS ARE.

AND SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A WONDERFULLY GROWING ECONOMY, BUT A LOT OF THAT REALISTICALLY IS GOING TO BE ON THE, ON THE END OF THE PAY SCALE.

THAT'S NOT GONNA BE, THAT'S STILL GONNA NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTERVENTIONS.

SO HOW, HOW ARE WE ACCOUNTING FOR THAT? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT'S OUR, OUR GOAL, OUR END GOAL? WELL, AGAIN, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A ABOVE MY BOTH KNOWLEDGE AND AND POLICY THING.

BUT I THINK THAT, THAT ALL OF THE HOUSING PROGRAMS ARE BOTH SAYING, WHAT IS OUR MOST PRESSING NEED TODAY? AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT? BUT I THINK THAT MANY OF THE HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT THAT HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED, UH, ARE, ARE REALLY TO ANTICIPATE WHAT'S OUR GOING NEED GONNA BE

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TOMORROW.

AND SO WE CAN KIND OF ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.

IS THAT, IS THAT, UM, SO I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD HEAR A REGRESSION ANALYSIS EXPLANATION AT A COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

AND IT HAS BEEN ALMOST 20 YEARS SINCE SOMEONE SAID, UM, WHAT'S OUR ELASTICITY? UH, SO I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF FLASHBACKS.

I REGULARLY HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY COLLEAGUES, UH, IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UM, ALEX AND I REGULARLY TALK ABOUT HOW IF SHE IS SUCCESSFUL, SHE MAKES SOME OF MY JOB GOES AWAY.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK, AND STEPHEN QUOTED IN THE BOOK THAT PART OF WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING IS HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSING, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THERE, BUT IT REALLY IS AN INCOME ISSUE.

AND SO MY JOB IS TO HELP ALEX BE SUCCESSFUL IN HER ROLE AS A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND CREATE THE JOBS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE THE WAGES THAT WE NEED SO THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE COMING BACK TO YOU AND SAYING, HERE'S THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING GAP.

AND SO WE NEED TO WORK IN CONCERT TO CONTINUE TO THAT, SO THAT OUR ECONOMIC ELASTICITY IS SOMETHING THAT AS YOU INVEST MORE IN THE WAGES THAT WE NEED FOR OUR COMMUNITY, YOU INVEST LESS IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REALM.

BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

UM, MAKING GREAT STRIDES, GREAT ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE MADE COME TO FRUITION.

UM, BUT I SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AFFORDABILITY HAND IN HAND.

UH, AND IT IS NOT JUST AN ANTONIO ISSUE, THIS IS A NATIONAL ISSUE.

UM, AND MANY CITIES ARE GRAPPLING WITH EXACTLY THE KIND OF QUESTIONS YOU ASKED.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S SUMMER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO COUNCILWOMAN .

I'M GONNA TRY AND DO THIS QUICK.

UH, ON SLIDE NUMBER 15 IN YOUR PRESENTATION, LORI, WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OWNERSHIP, UNIT, PRODUCTION, REHAB, AND PRESERVATION BY A A M I AND THE, UM, THE REHAB OF THE, THE UNITS MM-HMM.

, I KNOW IN DISTRICT THREE, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WITH THE P F C AND WITH SAHA, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES THAT SOME, UM, DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING AT FOR DOING REHAB OF MULTIFAMILY OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE IN THE 30% AREA, THEY HAVE TO GET THE PERMISSION OF SAHA IN ORDER TO COME IN TO THE COUNTY AND DO THE WORK.

I'M HOPING THAT, UM, THE SAHA BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND SAHA WILL BE OPEN TO THE IDEA BECAUSE THIS IS, UM, A REHAB THAT'S GOING TO BE GOOD REHAB.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE HOUSING THERE FOR THE PEOPLE.

IT'S IN AREAS THAT NEED THIS REHABILITATION, AND THEY CAN DO IT AT A FASTER PACE THAN SAHA.

SO I THINK, UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE RECALIBRATION OF HOUSING GOALS, I HOPE WE, WE SEE THAT WORKING WITH SAHA, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE THESE, THERE'RE TWO IN DISTRICT THREE, AND I KNOW THERE'S ONE IN DISTRICT SEVEN THAT IS LOOKING TO DO WORK MM-HMM.

, BUT THEY WERE TOLD THAT THEY COULDN'T BE DONE THROUGH SAHA.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN CREATE THIS, UM, AFFORDABLE 30% UNITS THAT IS ALREADY PRODUCT THAT EXISTS THAT CAN BE REHABBED HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

AND I, I DO WANNA EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE COUNCIL WOMAN'S, UH, PROPOSAL.

WE WERE, UH, INFORMED ABOUT THIS, THIS REHAB PROPOSAL TO SOME SECTION EIGHT PROPERTIES THAT, NOT BY VOUCHER, BUT BY PROJECT PROPERTIES, UH, THAT ARE SOON TO EXPIRE IN THEIR AFFORDABILITY.

SO HAVING THEM REHABBED AND TAKEN ON BY A NEW ENTITY WOULD ALLOW THEM TO REMAIN, UH, AFFORDABLE.

AND IT'S AN OUTSIDE ENTITY WHO'S PROPOSING TO DO THIS.

SO, UH, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT, UH, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK REMAIN BEFORE THAT, UH, PROJECT, UH, EXPIRES AND IT TURNS INTO, UM, MARKET RATE, MARKET RATE UNITS.

SO WE'D LOVE TO TALK TO YOU OFFLINE ABOUT HOW TO, HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT GOES THROUGH.

UM, I'M MOVING ON TO COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ.

THANK YOU.

UH, THIS IS VERY EXCITING AND, UH, AND REALLY GOOD WORK, UH, LORI AND TEAM.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DOING SMALL SCALE PROJECTS IN MY DISTRICT SINCE I GOT ON THE COUNCIL.

UM, BECAUSE I KNEW THAT WE HAD THIS ISSUE OF THE OLD HOUSING STOCK.

UM, WE KNOW IT BECAUSE WE LIVE THERE AND WE WALK AROUND.

SO THOSE OF US THAT LIVE IN OLD NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S TO SCALE BECAUSE I WAS TRYING WITH $200,000 AND 150 TO DRY IT, TO DO MINOR REHAB AND SOME MINOR REPAIR IN THE DISTRICT.

AND IT'S NEVER GONNA GET TO SCALE UNTIL WE, UM, TRY TO TACKLE THIS ISSUE AS A CITY.

AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT WHAT PEOPLE REALLY CARE ABOUT THE MOST IS THEIR HOME.

AND EVEN AS

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WE'VE BEEN HERE ON THE COUNCIL FOR A LONG TIME, UM, WHAT PEOPLE ASK YOU ALL THE TIME IS, BUT WHAT DID YOU DO FOR ME? I'M GLAD THAT YOU CREATED ALL THESE POLICIES AND YOU HAD ALL THIS EFFORT, BUT WHAT DID YOU DO FOR ME? AND SO BY GOING THROUGH PEOPLE'S HOMES INDIVIDUALLY, I THINK WE CAN AT LEAST SAY VERY, WITH VERY MUCH PRIDE THAT WE DID THIS.

WE FIXED THEIR HOME, WE, UH, IMPROVED THE, UM, ELECTRICAL, WE DID ROOF REPAIR, WE DID PLUMBING REPAIR, UM, AND IN ADDITION TO SIDEWALKS AND STREETS.

AND SO I THINK THIS COULD BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT WORK THAT WE DO AS A CITY, IS WHAT WE DO FOR PEOPLE'S HOMES.

SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE IT TO SCALE.

UM, AND I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, AS WE ARE DOING A FEW PILOTS, UH, IN THE DISTRICT, I HAD APPROACHED SHANNON AND, UM, MAYBE ERIC, I DON'T KNOW, SOME, SOME TIME AGO, UM, MAYBE BEFORE YOU WERE A CITY MANAGER.

SO I, I, I DON'T, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS, BUT WE, WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, I DESIGNATED LIKE SIX HOMES AS HISTORIC.

AND ONE OF THE ONLY REASONS WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO OWNER TO FIGHT IT.

AND THOSE HOMES ARE STILL THERE IN THE SAME CONDITION THAT THEY WERE WHEN I DESIGNATED THEM HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO.

SO AS WE'RE PILOTING, PERHAPS WE COULD START THERE BECAUSE, UH, THAT THEY'RE EVEN STILL STANDING IS, UM, PRETTY MIRACULOUS.

UH, SO, UM, PERHAPS WE COULD START THERE WITH THOSE HISTORIC HOMES AND THEN, UH, TRY TO MOVE PEOPLE IN THEM SINCE I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE ALL THE RESEARCH ON THEM.

WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, THAT THERE WAS NO OWNER OR THAT, UM, THERE WAS A, A, AN ISSUE ALONG THOSE LINES.

SO THEN IT, IT, IT BRINGS ME TO MY QUESTION, UH, FOR MR. DONOVAN, UM, WHOM, UM, I FEEL LIKE I DON'T KNOW YOU MR. DONOVAN.

I WAS SO, UH, INTRIGUED BY THE WORK, UM, THAT YOU PRESENTED HERE TODAY.

I HAVE DONE SOME SMALLER SCALE RESEARCH IN MY OWN DISTRICT, WHICH SHOWS ALMOST EXACTLY THE RESEARCH THAT YOU'RE SAYING HERE.

YOURS IS MUCH GRANDER.

BUT WE DID THE SAME THING.

MY DISTRICT, UM, THAT'S ALL WITHIN FOUR 10, ME AND COUNCILMAN VINNO, FOR THE MOST PART, HAVE EVERYTHING WITHIN FOUR 10 IN OUR DISTRICT.

I THINK COUNCILMAN VINNO HAS A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE, UH, BUT ALL OF MY DISTRICT IS WITHIN FOUR 10.

WE KNOW THAT ABOUT 70% OF MY HOUSING STOCK WAS BUILT BEFORE 1960, UM, AND THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR RESIDENTS, UM, HOMEOWNER ARE OVER 65.

SO THIS WAS DONE PRIMARILY ON HOME OWNERS.

BUT THE THING THAT STOOD OUT, UM, AS WE WERE DOING SOME OF THE RESEARCH WAS THE ISSUE OF TITLE CLEARANCE.

AND YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT AT ALL IN YOUR REPORT.

UH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND I, I TRIED TO SQUEEZE IN 15 MINUTES, BUT THE BEFORE THE CITY MANAGER SHOT ME.

UH, AND, AND THERE, THERE IS A, IT IS A MAJOR ISSUE.

AND, AND IF I DIDN'T ADDRESS IT, HERE IS NOT AT ALL SUGGESTING THAT A LACK OF IMPORTANCE IS THAT LOTS OF TIMES.

AND, AND I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU BOTH, UH, LIKE THE SIX PROPERTIES THAT YOU IDENTIFIED ALREADY, UH, BUT THAT 13% VACANCY IN, IN, UH, OLDER HOUSING, A LOT OF THAT WILL BE A CLOUDED TITLE ISSUE.

AND SO I THINK THAT THAT REALLY IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL TO FIGURE IT OUT, A KIND OF FAST TRACK WAY, EQUITABLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S ERRORS DON'T GET, YOU KNOW, SCREWED IN THE DEAL.

BUT A A FAST TRACK WAY TO GET THAT INTO THE PUBLIC HANDS, TO RECONVEY TO A NONPROFIT OR CHURCH OR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR SOMETHING, IT REALLY IS A, YOU, YOU'VE HIT AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

THERE'S, THERE'S ABOUT 40 RECOMMENDATION, 40 IDEAS IN THERE.

I I, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT IF IT'S NOT, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

SO I'LL TELL YOU THAT I, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON IT, UM, BECAUSE WE DID IT WITHIN, WITHIN MY DISTRICT, JUST IN A SINGLE ZIP CODE.

UM, AND WHAT WE FOUND, UH, AND I THINK THAT THIS MAY BE IMPORTANT AS WE'RE EVOLVING THE WORK, UM, WAS THAT A LOT OF THE HOMES THAT SHOWED THAT THEY WERE ELIGIBLE FOR OWNER OCCUPIED RE YOU KNOW WHAT, LET, LET ME BACK UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, UM, I'LL TELL YOU THAT WE PARTNERED WITH, UM, DR.

ENRIQUE AT U T S A, UM, BECAUSE HE HAD DONE SOME OF THE INITIAL HELP WITH THE TITLE CLEARANCE ISSUE.

AND THAT'S HOW THAT REALLY ROSE TO THE SURFACE, UM, OF ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE DISTRICT WAS THE TITLE CLEARANCE.

AND SOME OF THEM WERE SIMPLE TITLES IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAR ABOUT 120 TITLES JUST IN DISTRICT FIVE.

AND I KNOW DISTRICT TWO WAS ALSO, UH, WORKING ON THE ISSUE OF TITLE CLEARANCE.

UM, BUT WHAT DR.

ENRIQUE HAS GOT A GRANT TO, UM, FURTHER STUDY THE ISSUE OF TITLE CLEARANCE, AND THEY TARGETED, UM, THE OH SEVEN ZIP CODE, WHICH IS WHERE I LIVE.

IT'S THE POOREST CENSUS TRACK IN THE CITY.

AND, AND ANOTHER MAYBE IN THE STATE AND ON AND ON.

UH, BUT THEY ACTUALLY WENT DOOR TO DOOR TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE TITLE ISSUE.

AND THEY HAD TO ASK THREE QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT WAS

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PART OF A STUDY THAT THEY WERE DOING TO TAKE BACK, UH, AND DO FURTHER RESEARCH ON.

AND, AND DR.

RODRIGUEZ WAS GONNA PRESENT IT, UM, IN DC AT A STUDY.

UH, AND THE THREE QUESTIONS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS TO PEOPLE WAS THE ISSUE OF PREDATORY, UM, PURCHASING, OR WERE PEOPLE BEING HARASSED TO TRY TO SELL THEIR HOMES, UM, TO GET THEM ELIGIBLE FOR ANY EXEMPTIONS OR TO HAVE THEM APPLY FOR THE EXEMPTIONS THAT THEY WERE ELIGIBLE FOR AND, UM, TO, UH, APPLY FOR EXEMPTION AND TO APPLY FOR ANY PROGRAMS THAT WE HAD FOR TITLE, FOR TITLE CLEARANCE, FOR HOME REHAB, FOR ROOF PROGRAM, FOR UPGRADES, FOR ALL THE STUFF.

AND WHAT THEY FOUND WAS THAT IN FACT, IT WAS NOT THE HOMEOWNER LIVING THERE.

AND SO IT REALLY SKEWED ALL OF THE RESEARCH THAT THEY HAD DONE PREVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THE INFORMATION ACTUALLY PRESENTED WAS THAT IT WAS THE HOMEOWNER, BUT WHEN THEY ACTUALLY WENT TO THE HOME, THEY FOUND OUT NOT ONLY IS IT NOT A RELATIVE, IT'S JUST STRAIGHT RENTERS.

SO, AND THE CONCERN IS, IS THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER TIED TO THAT, AND THERE'S NO REAL EFFORT TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY, UM, WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

SO IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THOSE KIND OF SCENARIOS? YOU, UH, COMPLEX QUESTION FOR WHICH I HAVE NO EITHER COMPLEX OR SIMPLE ANSWER.

UH, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME, I MEAN, I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S VERY LIKELY A CASE.

UH, AND, BUT THAT IS, I I THINK THE ONLY WAY TO BEGIN TO RESOLVE IT IS TO DO SOME FORM OF WHAT YOUR, YOUR RESEARCH FRIEND DID IS LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, KNOCK ON DOORS DOOR TO DOOR.

AND I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST IF I, AGAIN, IF I WERE THE CZAR AND COULD MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS, UH, THAT MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD FUNCTION FOR THE NONPROFIT HOUSING COMMUNITY TO START IDENTIFYING THOSE AND THEN PASS IT OFF TO THE ONE-STOP SHOP OR WHATEVER, UH, FOR, FOR HELP AND RESOLUTION, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT.

I MEAN, I'M, YOU KNOW, MY GREAT-GRANDMOTHER LIVED HERE AND I'M STILL, YOU KNOW, UH, INHERITED AND INHERITED AND I'VE LIVED IN CHICAGO FOR 25 YEARS, AND ALL I CARE IS THEY PAY ENOUGH RENT SO I CAN PAY THE TAXES AND I'M DOWN THE ROAD NO MOTIVATION AT ALL TO FIX THE ROOF OR, AND IT'S GONNA BE THE KILLER FOR THE HOUSE.

SO THAT PHENOMENON YOU'RE DESCRIBING, I WOULD SUGGEST IS, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW CITYWIDE HOW BIG A PROBLEM, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT IS A, A DIRECT CAUSE AND EFFECT OF ULTIMATELY THAT HOUSE BEING LOST.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ULTIMATELY SAID IS THAT IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, IT'S JUST GONNA, IT'S GONNA CREATE MORE OF THIS PROBLEM.

AND, AND WHAT HE SAID THAT IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE HALF OF THE HOUSES THAT THEY VISITED, UH, HAD NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER TO THE HOMEOWNER.

UH, AND SO IT FIRST OF ALL, REALLY SKEWED THEIR DATA BECAUSE AS A PROFESSOR DOING ANALYSIS AND DOING RESEARCH, YOU GO IN WITH CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS, AND NOW YOU'VE GOTTA COME BACK AND COLLECT THE DATA AND RESEARCH AND WRITE IT AND PRESENT IT, AND THEN IT, AND THEN IT SKEWED EVERYTHING.

SO THEN, UM, NOT THAT THEY HAD TO START OVER, BUT IT CHANGED THE SAMPLE, UH, AND THE ISSUE THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS IN THEIR STUDY.

YEAH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID TO TRY TO SECOND CHECK THE KIND OF CENSUS LEVEL DATA ON SHARE OF RENTERS AND SHARE OF OWNERS IS TO LOOK AT THE ASSESSMENT DATA WHERE THE ADDRESS OF THE PERSON AND THE ADDRESS OF WHERE THE TAX BILL WENT WERE TWO DIFFERENT ADDRESSES.

NOW, THAT'S NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM, BUT AT LEAST IT'S A PROXY FOR SAYING, YEAH, I DON'T CARE WHAT, WHAT ANYBODY'S SAYING, IF YOUR TAX BILL IS BEING SENT TO KANSAS CITY, YOU'RE NOT LIVING IN THAT HOUSE.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY FOUND IS THAT THE SAMPLE THAT THEY HAD WAS THAT IT, THE HOMEOWNER AND THE TAX BILL, WERE GOING TO THE SAME PLACE.

MM-HMM.

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AND SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS PRESENTED THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF HOME OWNERSHIP, BUT MAYBE WE DON'T BECAUSE IN FACT, THEY'RE NOT THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE.

SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT A, A A MORE DIFFICULT PROBLEM TO ADDRESS, BECAUSE IF YOU DID HAVE THE HOMEOWNER LIVING THERE AND WE GO TO THE HOUSE LIKE WE DO AND SAY, LOOK, WE'VE GOT ALL THESE SERVICES, RIGHT.

LET US HELP YOU.

WELL, THAT RENTER, IT CANNOT RESPOND.

RIGHT.

AND, AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE ISSUE, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE PUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT INTO TRYING TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.

YEAH.

UH, SO I, I, I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK IT, IT, IT IS, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT.

UH, I KNOW THAT WE ALL HAVE THE SAME, UM, IDEA IN MIND IS TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE OF WHAT DO WE DO WITH VACANT PROPERTIES? WHAT DO WE DO, UM, TO HELP OUR BUILDING STAY INTACT? UH, HOW CAN WE ALSO, UH, I MEAN AS, AS ELECTEDS, WE WANNA HELP OUR COMMUNITY, WE, AND, AND ESPECIALLY OUR HOMEOWNERS.

UM, AND YET WE'RE, WE ARE PERHAPS, UM, ARE NOT ADDRESSING THE RIGHT ISSUE 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION.

SO, UM,

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UH, I, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE I, I WAS REALLY, UM, WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE REPORT AND I KNOW THAT IT'S VERY CONSISTENT TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, IN MY DISTRICT OVER MANY YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

UH, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

AND I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, UM, ABOUT THAT.

UM, THE ONE THING THAT I STILL FEEL IS, IS MISSING FROM THE PRESENTATION, AND IT REALLY IS FABULOUS WORK, UH, LORI AND, AND, UH, UM, PETE AND, UH, AND , UM, IS THAT I STILL DON'T SEE ENOUGH PRIVATE SECTOR INVOLVEMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE MENTIONED THIS EARLY ON WHEN YOU GAVE THE PRESENTATION, AND EVEN STILL THE IDEA THAT THE CITY IS DOING, YOU KNOW, ACQUIRING THE PROPERTIES AND THAT THE CITY IS DOING, I'M, I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE DOING IT, BUT I STILL FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF PRIVATE SECTOR INVOLVEMENT.

AND WHEN I STARTED THE HOUSING PILOT IN MY DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS AGO, THE FIRST CALL I MADE WAS TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, THE BANKS.

BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU'VE SAID MANY TIMES, WE DON'T DO IT ALONE.

WE HAVE PRIVATE SECTOR, WE ARE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UH, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS THAT DO IT.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE REALLY DOING THIS REHAB WORK, UM, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE HELD A LOT OF SMALL, UH, CONTRACTOR FAIRS IN MY DISTRICT.

I KNOW OTHERS HAVE AS WELL.

UM, BUT I, I STILL AM NOT SEEING LIKE THE, IN THIS INCLUSION, UH, OF PRIVATE SECTOR.

SO CAN YOU ADDRESS THOSE THINGS, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THAT REGARD? YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE JUST STARTED TRYING TO WORK ON HOW WE CAN BETTER INCORPORATE THE PRIVATE SECTOR INTO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING EFFORTS.

SO WE HAVE DONE, WE'LL BE DOING OUR FIFTH AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRACTOR FAIR.

UM, IT'LL BE NEXT WEEK IN DISTRICT THREE AT THE MISSION DRIVE AND LIBRARY ON DECEMBER 17TH.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

UM, ONE IN DISTRICT ONE, I THINK WE'VE DONE TWO IN DISTRICT TWO, UM, AND WE'VE DONE ONE IN DISTRICT FIVE.

UM, WE DO HAVE SOME APPLICATIONS COMING IN, AND SO I'LL BE ABLE TO BETTER ASSESS THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR AFTER WE COMPLETE THAT APPLICATION ROUND.

BUT IN ADDITION TO WORKING WITH THE SMALLER CONTRACTORS, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PRIVATE BANKS.

SO WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH FROST BANK ON HOW THEY CAN, UM, GET INVOLVED WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN.

OF COURSE, WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNER IN LISC.

WE WERE WORKING CLOSELY WITH BROADWAY, BUT IT IS, IT IS A SLOW PROCESS.

WE JUST STARTED AS A RESULT OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2020, UM, PLAN.

UM, AND SO WE WILL TRY TO, TO HAVE MORE TO REPORT IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2020 FOR YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BUT, UM, JUST FOR CORRECTION, WE HAVE DONE MANY IN DISTRICT FIVE, SO WE'VE PROBABLY DONE SIX OR SEVEN THAT WERE, UM, UH, NOT ALWAYS INCORPORATION WITH THE CITY, BUT WE DID SOME WITH LISC AND WE DID SOME WITH MOCK AND WITH, UM, A COUPLE OF OTHER, UH, NOW, UM, AT LIFTFUND.

UH, SO WE, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE QUITE A FEW, BUT I GUESS THAT WAS MY OTHER, UM, IF THAT, YOU KNOW, AS, AND, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE, WE ARE SORT OF NEW IN THIS PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET IT TO SCALE.

UM, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, MORE PRIVATE SECTOR INVOLVEMENT.

I HOPE YOU CAN REPORT BACK TO US THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE, UM, A BRIEFING ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING IS WHAT IS THE PRIVATE SECTOR DOING? BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE.

THERE IS, UH, A FINANCIAL GAIN TO BE HAD, UM, ESPECIALLY, UH, WHEN IT IN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VACANCY RATES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME OF THOSE HOME BACK UP TO SPEED, I MEAN, OR UP TO A LIVABLE CONDITION, UM, IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, UM, THE INCLUSION OF PRIVATE BANKS.

AND SO I KNOW THAT CREDIT HUMAN WAS DOING SOME THINGS TO HELP, UH, IMPROVE, UM, UH, TO HAVE DIFFERENT PACKAGES WHERE YOU COULD PURCHASE A HOME AND DO A REHAB IN THE SAME LOAN.

UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER PRIVATE BANKS THAT WERE DOING IT, BUT VERY, VERY LIMITED.

AND THEY WERE USING IT IN OTHER CITIES, BUT NOT IN SAN ANTONIO.

AND SO WHAT IS THE REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT USING THAT PRODUCT IN SAN ANTONIO? AND I THINK THEY USE IT IN OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT THEY DON'T WANNA DO IT HERE.

UM, SO FIND OUT, LIKE WHAT IS THE HESITATION FOR DOING IT HERE, I THINK IS, UM, WELL, I MEAN, WE KNOW WHAT THE HESITATION IS, UH, BUT PERHAPS WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS PRIMARILY IS RISK, UH, WHY THEY DON'T WANNA DO THOSE KIND OF LOANS, UH, WHERE YOU'RE DOING THE HOME REHAB AND MORTGAGE IN THE SAME VERSUS HAVING TO PURCHASE A HOME AND THEN GET A SECOND MORTGAGE.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE PARTICIPATING AND THEY NEED TO, WE NEED TO BRING THEM TO THE TABLE.

AND, AND I WILL SAY THAT THEY ARE AT THE TABLE.

IT'S JUST IN THE EARLY STAGES.

WE HAVE BBB V AND A, FROST BANK, BROADWAY, AND SO

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WE HOPE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF PRODUCT TO UNVEIL IN EARLY 2020.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE, UH, THREE MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, AND I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE, WE DO HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN CEREMONIALS AT AT FIVE 30.

SO, UH, COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PROAM, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

AND SO I WAS QUICKLY BROWSING THROUGH AND TRYING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, DOWN ANY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, I HAVE ONE, MY FIRST QUESTION AND THANKS, UM, DONOVAN, SO THIS IS AWESOME.

I, UM, I AM A NERD, SO I READ EVERYTHING AND I CAN'T WAIT TO TAKE HOME AND DIGEST US A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I SAW IT TOO.

SO I'M EXCITED, UM, IN YOUR RESEARCH.

LET ME START OFF WITH THIS ONE.

BEFORE I FORGET.

IN YOUR RESEARCH, DID YOU FIND OUT ANYTHING THAT SPECIFICALLY FOCUSES ON VETERANS? OH, UH, GOOD QUESTION.

THE ANSWER IS NO.

OKAY.

WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T USE THAT AS A METRIC.

OKAY, GOOD IDEA.

WE DIDN'T, JUST CHECKING.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I DO THINK THAT WE'RE MILITARY CITY, U S A AND UM, RIGHT.

UH, FOR WHOEVER WILL BE OUR, OUR HOUSING PERSON OR CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER.

I DO THINK THAT THAT HAS TO BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER AS WELL.

WE HAVE A, A LOT OF VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE.

AND THEN, UM, UH, I CAN SOMEBODY REMIND ME WHAT THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS FOR SANTO? HUNDRED PERCENT.

72100%.

A M I THIS YEAR IS 72,000 AND CHANGE.

OKAY.

UM, SO THAT'S THE AVERAGE, UH, IN SAN ANTONIO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND SO, YEAH.

YEAH, SO THAT, SORRY, I JUST, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN I QUICKLY GOOGLED IT, I GOT 42,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO I WAS TRYING, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.

SO SOME, SOME, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU LOOKED FOR, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT OFTEN SKEWS THAT IS.

YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE JOB AND IT MIGHT SAY X, BUT HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS BASED ON HOUSEHOLD, NOT JOBS.

SO ONE AND A HALF PEOPLE OR THREE PEOPLE IN A HOUSEHOLD, THAT'S WHAT WILL CHANGE.

SO YOU MIGHT GET VERY DIVERGENT NUMBERS LIKE THAT.

GOOD, BECAUSE I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

SO I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF, UM, OF TALK OF THE GROWTH OF SINGLETONS.

AND SO, AND IN THE REPORT IT HAS A LOT OF, UH, INFORMATION OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE MADE UP OF ONE PERSON.

AND SO, UM, SO I'D LOVE TO MAYBE JUST CONNECT WITH YOU BECAUSE I, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE QUESTIONS JUST TO FURTHER BREAKDOWN ON IT, BECAUSE THEN AS I WAS LOOKING, AND, AND BY THE WAY, I LOVED YOUR FINANCIAL INCENTIVES, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE MATRIX.

I NOTICED THAT OUT OF YOUR 35 RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT LOW HANGING FRUIT, UM, THERE'S ALREADY 13 OF THEM THAT WOULD HAVE A LOW COST TO THE CITY.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND STARTING WITH THOSE.

BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT EFFECTIVENESS, THEN THERE'S A, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

AND I LIKE HOW YOU ALSO CHECKED ON STAKEHOLDER APPROVAL.

I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE HAVE, UM, TWO OF THOSE ALREADY IN PLACE WITH VERY HIGH, UM, STAKEHOLDER APPROVAL.

SO I, I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

THE REASON THAT I WAS ASKING IS BECAUSE IN YOUR FINANCIAL INCENTIVES OR THE TOOLBOX, WHICH BY THE WAY, THANK YOU ALSO FOR DOING THAT, I QUICKLY LOOKED AT SOME OF THE CITIES THAT WE WERE BEING COMPARED TO.

AND, UM, THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD HOUSEHOLD INCOME WAS, WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OURS WAS.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST CHECKING.

SO MY, MY NEXT QUESTION TO YOU WAS GONNA BE, DID YOU COMPARE ANY CITIES THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY, UM, ON THE SAME LEVEL THAT SAN ANTONIO WAS? OR ARE THESE JUST MAYBE SOME OF THE TOOLBOX INSTRUMENTS THAT YOU'VE HAD FROM PREVIOUS RESEARCH? UH, NO.

WE STARTED FROM GROUND ZERO, AND I, AND I HAVE, YEAH.

AND AGAIN, WE DO A LOT OF INCENTIVE WORK, BUT WE ALWAYS, WE NEVER TRIED TO SAY, OH, WE DID THIS IN MIAMI, SO LET'S DROP IT ON SAN ANTONIO.

WE REALLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING, WHAT ARE THE PARTICULAR ISSUES IN SAN ANTONIO AND WHAT ARE SOME PARTICULAR IDEAS THAT MIGHT RESPOND TO THAT? AND AGAIN, I KIND OF WANNA REPEAT.

IT'S NOT THAT I WOULD SIGN ON TO ALL 35, I JUST SAID, AT LEAST THESE ARE WORTH THINKING ABOUT AND, AND SAYING, THIS IS A STUPID ONE, WON'T WORK HERE.

AND THAT'S FINE.

BUT THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE, WELL, THAT WAS ONE OF MY NEXT QUESTIONS AS WELL.

SO I WAS WONDERING IF, UM, AND AGAIN, I JUST GOOGLED, UM, THE HISPANIC POPULATION IN SOME OF THESE CITIES WHERE THESE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES WERE WORKING.

AND I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A, A, A DEMOGRAPHIC DIFFERENCE FROM, FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

SO ONE OF, ONE OF THE, UM, THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WAS, WE PROPOSED WAS TALLAHASSEE, 6.7%.

HISPANICS LIVE IN TALLAHASSEE.

RIGHT? SO WHAT IT REALLY WORK, THE HIGHEST ONE WAS SAN JOSE AT 33%.

SO I WAS TRYING TO TAKE IT ALSO FROM THE CULTURAL PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT CULTURE PLAYS A BIG PART OF WHO I'M GONNA LET COME INTO MY HOME TO AUDIT OR PRIDE PAYS, PLAYS A BIG PART OF, AM I ASKING FOR HELP, EDUCATION, ACCESS TO INTERNET, WHICH A LOT OF MY DISTRICT, UH, RESIDENTS DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO INTERNET.

WE'RE STILL BEHIND ON THE DIGITAL DIVIDE.

SO I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, THESE ARE GREAT

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AND I'D LOVE TO IMPLEMENT THESE.

HOW, HOW DO WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT? WELL, UH, AND I, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB OF EXPLAINING IT IN THAT WHEN WE CITED AND, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE NO CITATION 'CAUSE NOBODY'S TRIED IT BEFORE, BUT THOSE THAT DID, IT WASN'T SO MUCH TRYING TO SAY, UH, PARALLEL TO SAN ANTONIO, IT WAS MORE SAYING, HEY, IF THE COUNCIL SAYS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, HEY, GO AND GO AND LOOK AT THIS, WOULD THIS WORK HERE? IT WAS MORE OF A WAY TO SAY, WELL, HERE'S A LOCAL ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN PASSED.

AND SO TALLAHASSEE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SAN ANTONIO, BUT THEY HAVE A, A WIDGET TAX WAIVER.

AND SO IF YOU WANNA WRITE THAT, THAT MIGHT, SO THAT WAS REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THAT, AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, HERE'S SIMILAR CITIES TO SAN ANTONIO.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

SO I JUST, UH, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT NOW OUR CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER WILL HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE TASK, WHICH WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S FOR ERIC.

SO I'LL WAIT TILL HE COMES BACK.

UM, THE NEXT ITEM, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE BROWNFIELDS DESIGNATION.

UM, I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR THAT AND I'VE BEEN ASKING, I'VE ASKED ABOUT IT BEFORE AT I G R COMMITTEE.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ITEM THAT WE REALLY TAKE TO HEART AND WORK ON.

UM, I DO LIKE YOUR, UH, ENERGY AUDIT EXAMPLE, BY THE WAY.

I, I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH OUR C P S, WITH OUR, OUR LOCAL ENERGY COMPANY AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE EVER DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, OR WHO THEIR, THEIR COMPARABLE CITIES ARE THAT MIGHT DO THIS.

UM, AGAIN, I REALLY LOVE YOUR MATRIX, I JUST CAN'T GET OVER IT.

THAT IS SO COOL.

UH, AND THEN ON PAGE, WHAT IS IT? IT, IT WAS THE ONE, IT WAS ON PAGE 23, YOU HAD THE SLIDE ON THERE, AND IT WAS, UM, HOUSEHOLD INCOME DISTRIBUTION.

AND SO THAT WAS A, I MEAN, IT, PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS SAY, OH, IT DOESN'T TAKE A PHD TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

YOU JUST LOOK AROUND.

RIGHT.

AND SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAW.

I'M LIKE, YEAH, WELL, WE'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS, SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THIS AND PUTTING THIS IN A CHART, UM, THAT SHOWS US EXACTLY.

UH, AND, AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KIND OF SEE THAT PICTURE.

UM, ON THAT SAME PAGE, YOU HAVE THE HISPANIC POPULATION, PRE 1960, UH, 81% AND 1960 PLUS 47%.

AND IT'S TO THE POINT THAT I THINK ONE OF MY, UH, OR SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO, TO MAKE EARLIER, UM, AND IT, I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS, OH, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ IS THE OWNER, RIGHT? OR, OR, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS BASED ON CENSUS DATA, SO IT'S ABOUT THE PERSON LIVING.

BUT THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, WHO'S, WHO OWNS THE HOME AND ULTIMATELY WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, ESPECIALLY IF THESE ARE RENTER, SO WE START GETTING INTO SLUM SLUMLORDS, RIGHT? AND SO ANYWAY, SO I, I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT THE NEXT STEP, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU'RE HIRED TO DO A NEXT STEP.

I'M ALREADY ASKING YOU.

UH, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD REQUIRE A BREAKDOWN TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER? THAT'S, I MEAN, SO, SO THE, THE, THE NUMBERS THEMSELVES ARE RESIDENTS, AND SO THAT'LL INCLUDE BOTH OWNERS AND RENTERS, AND INCLUDING RENTERS THAT WE THINK ARE OWNERS OR WHATEVER.

BUT, BUT IT WILL, IT JUST WHO'S WHO, WHO LIVES THERE.

AND AGAIN, JUST SO I DON'T OVERSTATE THE EXACTITUDE OF IT, WHAT WE HAD TO DO, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ADDRESS BY ADDRESS IF THEY WERE HISPANIC OR NOT, IS THIS COMES FROM THE CONCENTRATION OF OLDER HOUSING IN A CENSUS BLOCK AND, UH, TENURE IN THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE NUMBERS COME FROM.

UM, BUT THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO SEE.

AND AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO, TO, TO BRAINSTORM IN MY OWN HEAD IF THE GENERAL PATTERNS OF OWNERSHIP AND AND TENANTS AMONG THE HISPANIC POPULATION WOULD BE PARALLEL IN BOTH NEWER HOUSING AND OLDER HOUSING.

AND MY GUESS IS THAT IT WOULD SKEW THAT BOTH MORE HISPANICS, BUT ALSO MORE HISPANIC RENTERS LIVE IN OLDER HOUSING THAN A NEW HOUSE.

AND THAT'D BE MY KIND OF INTUITIVE SENSE.

THERE'D PROBABLY A WAY STATISTICALLY TO TEASE THAT OUT A LITTLE BETTER, BUT THAT MY KIND OF REACTION TO THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOMEWHERE TO DO A DISSERTATION ON THIS.

AND THEN, UM, ON PAGE, UM, 23 ALSO.

SO WE'RE LOOKING, UM, CONTINUING ON THAT THERE IS, SO MAYBE IT, IT COULD EVEN BE BASED ON HOMESTEAD.

AND SO, UM, OVERALL, I'M LOOKING AT HOW MANY OVERALL HISPANICS HAVE LIVED IN GENERAL IN 50 PLUS, 50 PLUS, UH, YEAR HOMES.

RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S KIND OF, I, I THINK WHAT I, I'M TRYING TO GET AT, PROBABLY COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ WAS ALSO TRYING TO GET AT, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO IN THE MEANTIME, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU RECOMMEND, MAYBE LIKE SOME DATA BANK SOMEWHERE THAT REGULARLY COLLECTS THIS FOR SOME REASON, OR IS IT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE PUT IT IN PERCENTAGE TERMS, BUT THOSE WERE BASED ON NUMBERS.

SO I COULD DIG OUT FOR, FOR SHANNON WHAT THOSE NUMBERS WERE.

NOW, GIVEN THE MARGIN OF ERROR, BUT I SHOULD, I SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, ALRIGHT, THIS 81% MEANS, YOU KNOW, 142,000 PEOPLE OR WHATEVER.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN TEASE THAT OUT FROM THE DATA WE HAVE.

AWESOME.

GOOD.

AND, AND SO THE NEXT QUESTION IS RELATED TO THAT ALSO, BECAUSE THIS WAS, UM, SPECIFICALLY, OR IT LOOKS LIKE WE WERE LOOKING AT THE 50 PLUS, UH, YEAR HOMES.

AND YESTERDAY I HAD

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A, I HEARD A COMMENT AT THE P F C AND ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE OF THE BRILLIANT WOMEN WAS THAT ASKED THIS QUESTION, BUT SHE'S LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS CONSIDERED HISTORIC.

RIGHT? AND SO IN YOUR, UM, RESEARCH, HOW IS HISTORIC DEFINED, UH, IN TERMS OF YEARS? IS IT 50 THE AVERAGE? AND JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

SURE.

UH, AND THIS IS, WE, WE DO OUR, OUR FIRM DOES A LOT OF STUFF SPECIFICALLY ON HISTORIC RESOURCES.

WE, WE IN-HOUSE REFERRED THIS TO JUST OUR OLD STUFF STUDY, UH, BECAUSE WE SIMPLY, WE, WE HAD NO, NO, UH, UH, DIFFERENTIATION ON WHETHER IT WAS IN OR OUT IN HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT LOCAL COMMUNITIES ARE THE ONES WHO DECIDE WHAT'S HISTORIC, THIS ISSUE ABOUT AGE.

THERE'S A KIND OF NATIONAL STANDARD THAT SAYS THE 50 YEAR, BUT THAT DOESN'T SAY IT'S HISTORIC.

THAT SAYS, THAT'S THE TIME WHEN YOU CAN START ASKING, IS THERE ATTRIBUTES OF THIS PROPERTY THAT SHOULD MAKE IT WORTHY OF DESIGNATION? UH, BUT I HAVE AN AND YOU HAVE A READING, YOU, THEY CAN SHUT THEIR EYES, UH, EARS.

'CAUSE I HATE COMPLIMENTING ANYBODY.

UH, SAN ANTONIO REALLY HAS THE BEST HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE IN THE COUNTRY.

NICE.

FOR THE VARIETY OF THINGS THEY DO.

THEY REALLY DO.

BUT, UH, BUT I, I THINK PART OF THAT IS THAT THIS IS A PLACE THAT REALLY DOES RESPOND TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S THE COMMUNITY THAT SAYS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS HISTORIC.

I DON'T CARE IF IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY DAMN GARGOYLES, THIS HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD .

AND THAT'S WHAT KIND OF CREATES THE DISTRICT.

AND I THINK, FRANKLY, THAT'S AS IT SHOULD BE.

OKAY, GREAT.

NO, THANK YOU.

I DO THINK THAT THERE'S LIKE THE SECOND LEVEL OR THE NEXT PHASE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HELP, UH, IT WOULD HELP TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT ALSO TO LOOK AT OUR COMPARABLE CITIES AND, UM, UH, THE CITY MANAGER USUALLY USES A LIST OF THE 10 CITIES THAT WE COMPARE TO.

MM-HMM.

AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE NEXT STEP, RIGHT? SO BECAUSE WE ARE LIKE THEM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN CERTAIN AREAS.

AND SO I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP.

UM, I WOULD ALSO, SO ERIC, I THINK THIS IS A, A QUESTION FOR YOU WHO'S GONNA FOLLOW UP ON THE 30 NEXT 30 TOOLS, OR THERE'S 35 IN THE BACK, UM, OR WHO GETS THE BALL ROLLING? BECAUSE THE CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER PROBABLY DOESN'T START TILL NEXT YEAR.

AND I, I'VE ASSUMED SOMEBODY'S WORKING ON IT.

I'M JUST, I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PETE OR WHO'S, WHO'S WORKING ON THIS IN THE MEANTIME.

SO, NO, SORRY, I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT.

UM, THE SAME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DOING ALL THE WORK YOU SAW TODAY, OKAY.

UM, THE, THE CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER IS MEANT TO BE KIND OF THAT POINT PERSON IN TERMS OF BOTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS ISSUES.

BUT, BUT FRANKLY, AS I SIT HERE TODAY, AND I LISTEN TO TODAY'S PRESENTATION, THE STAFF WE VETO AND HER STAFF AT NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES, LORI, WITH HER LEADERSHIP, OUR PARTNERS WHO ARE HERE, THE HOUSING COMMISSION, AND, AND HERE WITH TODAY'S REPORT, UM, UH, THE WORK THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS DONE TO HELP IDENTIFY SOME OF THE ISSUES, IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME GROUP THAT'S DOING IT NOW.

I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, WHEN WE HAVE THE CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER, I, I THINK ORGANIZATIONALLY, BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY, WE'LL HAVE ONE PERSON THAT CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DEAL, WHAT WE'RE DOING IN FOR HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS IN DISTRICT FOUR TO HOW WE ARE FINANCING DEALS, UH, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE IDEAL PERSON.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO FIND THAT PERSON.

BUT REGARDLESS OF WHO WE HIRE, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE TEAM HERE.

YEAH.

UM, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE MELODY AND HUMAN SERVICES.

UM, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GROUP RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

AND THANK YOU.

AND I WASN'T, I WASN'T QUESTIONING THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE MANAGEMENT ABILITIES, BUT I WAS JUST MORE, UM, INTERESTED IN MANPOWER.

SO IF, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THE DEPARTMENT IS, BUT I'M JUST REALLY WORRIED THAT THERE'S SO MUCH WORK TO DO, AND LIKE, HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE GET THIS DONE? YEAH.

WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IDENTIFY HOW WE'RE PRIORITIZING THAT WORK AND MAKING SURE CERTAINLY THAT IT'S ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS.

AND IF WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN'T DO IT IN THE TIMEFRAME THAT YOU WANT IT IN, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.

WHAT IS OUR TIMEFRAME LIKE NOW, YESTERDAY? OKAY, .

SO, OKAY.

I FIGURED WHAT I JUST WANTED TO ASK.

UM, AND, AND THAT'S IT.

I JUST, UM, I WAS REALLY, UH, REALLY SURPRISED THAT THERE WAS, THERE WAS, THE FIRST QUOTE THAT I SAW IN THE, IN THE BOOK WAS, UM, UH, 22% OF ALL HOUSING UNITS WERE BUILT BEFORE 1960.

AND I'D LOVE TO SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE IN DISTRICT FOUR.

RIGHT.

AND SO, I, I AM SURE YOU GUYS HAVE THE BREAKDOWN.

I'M SURE YOU CAN SHARE IT ALL, AS I'M SURE ALL OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY ARE, ARE IN THEIR DISTRICTS, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US.

AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE, UM, IF THERE'S A, SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN CAO HAVER DOES QUESTION, UH, HOW THE FUNDS ARE ALLOTTED BY DISTRICT.

IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF A FORMULA, I'M, I'M SURE YOU HAVE IT.

MAYBE YOU COULD SHOW IT TO ME, VERO.

AND THEN, UH, MY FINAL, MY FINAL COMMENT IS I'M REALLY WORRIED BECAUSE IN, IN THE, UM, IN

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THE PRESENTATION, IT SAYS THAT ALMOST BY DEFINITION, WHEN A UNIT OF OLDER HOUSING IS RAISED, A UNIT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS LOST FOREVER.

AND SO IT SEEMS VERY DRAMATIC.

BUT MY POINT IS THAT THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE A, A TOP PRIORITY, RIGHT? LIKE, SO HOW, HOW DO WE FIX THAT? OR IS THAT REALLY HAPPENING? OR, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, JUST SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION FOR THAT.

BUT THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PROAM.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, COUNCILMAN TRIVINIA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND ERIC, I AGREE.

UM, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA DO THINGS TODAY.

AND I THINK THAT THAT IS PART OF, UH, WHAT I HOPE OUR, OUR, OUR POLICY DIRECTION CAN BE AND, AND TO SORT OF UNHITCH ANY, ANYTHING THAT IS SORT OF PREVENTING US FROM, FROM DOING THAT.

AND SO I WANT THANK LORI SPECIFICALLY FOR REALLY, UH, TACKLING THIS IN, IN, IN THE MOST INTELLIGENT WAY YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS.

AND THAT'S, SHE'S, SHE'S REALLY CONVENED PEOPLE.

SHE'S BROUGHT PEOPLE TOGETHER.

AND SO THANK YOU, LORI, FOR, FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

UM, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING SOME LONG HOURS TRYING TO, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT A VERY, VERY COMPLEX PUZZLE TOGETHER.

AND IT IS A PUZZLE.

IT'S VERY COMPLEX.

UH, VERO, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

UM, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE, UM, ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND I ALSO WANNA GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO LEILA POWELL.

UH, WE MEET REGULARLY AND, AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING A BUILDING THAT, THAT IS TRULY SAN ANTONIO AND CAN POTENTIALLY BE A MODEL OF SUCCESS WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABILITY, REAL AFFORDABILITY, NOT SUBSIDIZED AFFORDABILITY.

UM, SO I WANNA POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE SAID, UH, REGARDING, UH, WHAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY.

AND THAT'S AS YOU, AS WE HEARD, UH, MR. KUMA SAY, UH, AND IT WAS JUST ALLUDED TO RIGHT NOW, IS THE MOST AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE HAVE IS THE EXISTING HOUSING, AND WE GOTTA PROTECT THAT.

AND I'M, AND I'M ONE HISPANIC THAT LIVES IN, IN HOUSING THAT'S OLDER, 50 YEARS OLD.

IN FACT, I THINK IT'S OLDER THAN 70 YEARS OLD.

UM, AND I LOVE MY HOUSE, UM, BUT IT'S ALSO HARD TO MAINTAIN.

AND, AND I'M, AND I'M AN ARCHITECT FOR, FOR GOD'S SAKES, RIGHT? AND EVEN I'M LIKE, UGH.

UM, PERRY SAYS THAT ARCHITECTS DON'T DO KNOW HOW TO DO THAT STUFF.

, THAT'S, THAT'S COMING, THAT'S COMING FROM AN AGGIE .

UM, WELL COME ON OVER AND SHOW ME PERRY.

SO, UM, MR. SO IN FACT, WE DID A, A DEMOLITION, UH, C C R REGARDING THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD.

NOW, WE CAN'T FORGET THAT.

I, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT SAID TODAY, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL.

OUR BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD DECIDES WHETHER SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS STAY OR GO.

AND WE DID A LOT OF WORK TO RECONSTITUTE THAT BOARD.

IN FACT, PART OF THAT WAS THAT THEY, THAT THE, THE BOARD DID NOT HAVE A, A SENSE FOR THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

IT WAS AT LARGE.

WE'VE CHANGED THAT.

UH, THEY ALSO DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UH, HAVE A, A, A, A A A A, A LEVEL OF EXPERTISE OR CONNECTION TO THE ISSUE ITSELF.

THERE WAS, UH, NO ELDERLY PERSON IN THERE, NO.

SOMEBODY WHO WAS A VETERAN, SOMEBODY WHO WAS DISABLED, MAYBE A DOCTOR WHO COULD SPEAK TO, UH, THE FACT THAT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DEMOLISH BUILDINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MOLD, SIMPLY CLEAN THE MOLD, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, MR. COMB.

RIGHT? IN FACT, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO COME UP HERE BECAUSE I'M GONNA KIND OF DIRECT SOME QUESTIONS TO YOU, AND I WANT YOU TO AFFIRM OR, OR NOT, SOME OF THE THINGS I'M, I'M ASSERTING, UM, YOU KNOW, LARGELY WE HAVE A, A, A VERY, VERY OLD HISTORIC HOUSING STOCK.

AND YOU'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY THINGS LIKE, THAT HOUSE HAS MOLD ON IT.

WE NEED TO DEMOLISH IT.

IS IS, IS THAT TRUE? DO DO HOMES NEED TO BE DEMOLISHED BECAUSE THEY HAVE MOLD? NO.

DO, DOES MOLD KILL PEOPLE? NO.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND, BUT YET WE'VE DONE THAT, RIGHT? AND THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, BY THE WAY, DOESN'T, DOESN'T COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ONCE THAT'S DECIDED.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S AN ORDER THAT'S DONE.

UM, WE'VE ALSO MISCLASSIFIED A LOT OF OUR HOUSING, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS VERY, VERY COMPLEX EFFORT OF, OF REZONING A LARGE AREA REZONING.

AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.

UM, OUR LARGE AREA REZONING, I

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THINK IS, IS SPEAKING TO THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD A, A, A CITY THAT HAS CHANGED ITS ZONING DESIGNATIONS OVER YEARS.

AND THEN WHAT I, WHAT I CALL OUR LARGE AREA ZONING IS REALLY CORRECTIVE ZONING BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO WHAT'S EXISTING.

UM, TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU SEE THE PRESSURES OF INCORRECT ZONING IN SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO HOW WE ALSO PROTECT THAT EXISTING STOCK.

WELL, O OFTEN THE, THE, IN GROWING CITY WITH FINITE BOUNDARIES, YOU HAVE TO ADD DENSITY, PERIOD.

JUST DO, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN, YOU'RE FIXED IN LAND, YOU GOTTA HAVE A DENSITY.

HERE'S WHAT I THINK IS OFTEN MISSED, UH, IN, IN SAN ELSEWHERE, BUT CERTAINLY IN SAN ANTONIO THAT IN FACT, FROM EARLIER WORK WE'VE DONE HERE, THE DENSEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY OR THE OLD NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT'S WHERE THE DENSITY ALREADY IS.

AND SO THE ARGUMENT WOULD BE IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO, TO MAINTAIN CHARACTER, YOU HAVE TO ADD DENSITY.

BUT WHY DO YOU HAVE TO ADD THEM IN THE AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY THE DENSEST THERE? YEAH.

THE SECOND THING, AND I, IT WAS A REALLY WONDERFUL DISCOVERY OF OURS IN DOING THIS RESEARCH ABOUT THAT OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS IN SAN ANTONIO HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MIXED USE, AND THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD MULTIFAMILY, BUT OVERWHELMING CHAIR OF THAT MULTIFAMILY WAS TWO TO FOUR UNITS.

WELL, THAT IS NOT AT ALL CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF A LARGELY SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

WELL, A 40 UNIT APARTMENT HOUSE S AND, AND IT CHANGES THAT CHARACTER.

AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT THAT, THAT, THAT 40 UNITS IS A BAD THING, BUT, BUT YOU NEED TO SAY IS THE IS AID IS THAT 40 UNIT NEED TO BE THERE? AND IS THE TRADE OFF BETWEEN AN EXTRA 36 UNITS THERE WORTH THE IMPACT IT'S GONNA HAVE ON THE LARGER CHARACTER? AND I THINK THAT HAS A FUNDAMENTAL, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, POLICY DECISION ABOUT WHERE SAN ANTONIO WANTS TO BE AND WHAT, AND, AND BECOME.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND WELL STAY TUNED TOMORROW BECAUSE WE'RE VOTING ON OUR, ON AN RMM FOUR, MF 33, UH, C C R THAT, UH, WAS DELAYED TO, TO TOMORROW.

AND IT SPEAKS PRECISELY TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS IN TERMS OF HOW WE, UH, CULTIVATE AND VALUE THESE OLDER HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, THINGS LIKE SCALE, HEIGHT, SETBACK, ALL THOSE THINGS MATTER.

AND WE'RE ESTABLISHING THAT AND, AND HOPE TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF, UH, MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES ON THAT ITEM TOMORROW.

SO THAT SPEAKS TO EXACTLY JUST THAT, UM, UNDER ONE ROOF.

SO THIS IS A PROGRAM I STARTED YEARS AGO.

UM, I, I DIDN'T SEE, UH, I WOULD SAY I, I THINK THAT WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO CLEAR SOMETHING UP ABOUT ROOFS.

UM, IF, IF WE HAVE A ROOF LEAK AND A FOUNDATION PROBLEM, WHICH ONE SHOULD YOU TAKE CARE OF? FIRST ROOF.

THANK YOU.

UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S OFTEN WE, WE ASSUME THAT WE HAVE TO FIX THE FOUNDATION BEFORE WE FIX THE ROOF, BUT, YOU KNOW, MORE IMPORTANTLY, A ROOF LEAK IS, IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS COMPOUNDING DAMAGE, IS IT NOT? IT IS, IN FACT, AND AGAIN, IT WAS A RELATIVELY RECENT DISCOVERY WHEN WE WERE DOING RESEARCH FOR THIS, BUT I SPECIFICALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM, WHICH IS AVERAGING ABOUT $5,500 OR $9,900 PER 8,300, YOU KNOW, PER THING.

WELL, AND THIS, THIS, UH, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF BUILDING SAYING THAT WHEN YOU DEFER MAINTENANCE, THE, IT'S, IT CAN BE 15 TIMES AS MUCH.

WELL, IF YOU TAKE THAT IT, INSTEAD OF 10,000, IT'S 150,000, THAT MEANS THE HOUSE IS GONE.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHY THIS EARLY INTERVENTION'S A HUGE IS A, IS $140,000 SAVINGS IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOSING THAT HOUSE.

AGREED.

AND ANOTHER POINT ABOUT THE ROOF PROGRAM, BECAUSE WE MADE IT A POINT TO, TO PUT ON A HIGH REFLECTANCE ROOF, UH, OR SOMEONE NOTICE A WHITE ROOF, AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY, BUT I LIVE IN A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY WON'T ALLOW IT.

TALK TO US ABOUT THIS.

I, AGAIN, I WORKED WITH SHANNON ON THIS, I WANNA THANK SHANNON AS WELL, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGY HAS EXISTED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

SO WHAT, WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, I CAN'T HAVE A WHITE ROOF IN A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT? WELL, AGAIN, I, IT, IT, IT, IN SOME HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN AMERICA, YOU PROBABLY COULDN'T.

UH, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT SAN ANTONIO IS THAT YOU HAVE THIS, APART FROM TRADITIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS, YOU ALSO HAVE DOZENS OF CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.

ALL OF THEM ARE BOTTOM UP AS OPPOSED TO TOP DOWN.

ALL OF THEM ARE WHERE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ARE REALLY WRITTEN BY THE NEIGHBORS IN TERMS OF THE CHARACTER.

SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IF IT'S A PROBLEM, IT'S A PROBLEM WITH A RELATIVELY EASY SOLUTION.

YEAH.

WELL, I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT SHANNON FOUND IS SOME OF THE MOST, THE, THE ORIGINAL HOUSING HERE OR THE, THE ORIGINAL ROOF OF THE HISTORIC HOUSING

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ACTUALLY HAD WHITE ROOFS, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, AIR CONDITIONING HAS BEEN AROUND LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

WELL, SO, SO, SO HOMES HAD TO PERFORM.

THEY DID.

SO, SO BEFORE WE COULD FLIP A SWITCH AND BE HOT OR COOL, THE HOUSE ITSELF AND THE SIGHTING ON THE LOT, THE SETBACK FROM THE STREET WERE DECISIONS THAT THE BUILDER OR THE ARCHITECT HAD TO MAKE BECAUSE THE, TO RESPOND TO ENVIRONMENTAL PRESSURES ON THE BUILDING.

SO WHERE THE SUN WAS RISING, WHERE IT WAS SETTING, WHERE THE HEAT WAS COMING FROM, THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING HAD TO RESPOND TO THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY STUDY AFTER STUDY SHOWS THAT IN FACT, THE ONE, THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE MOST, THAT USE THE LESS ENERGY PER SQUARE FOOT, IN FACT, OLDER STUFF, NOT NEWER STUFF, NOT GREEN GIZMO BUILDINGS, IT'S OLDER STUFF THAT WERE BUILT TO RESPOND TO THE ENVIRONMENT NATURALLY.

AND SO YOU, YOU'RE MAKING, YOU'RE MAKING A GREAT POINT ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE IDEAS ALREADY EXIST, RIGHT? AND, AND WHY WE SHOULD PROTECT THAT EXISTING HOUSING STOCK, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S EFFICIENT, IT WORKS, IT'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THAT, THAT YOU MAY, MAY NOT EVEN USE MECHANICAL DEVICES TO HEAT OR COOL YOUR HOUSE.

AND ESPECIALLY IN SAN ANTONIO, WE KNOW THAT, UH, THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN ABLE TO, UH, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF, UH, UTILITY CONSUMPTION, WHICH IN TURN PUTS OR PUTS A SAVINGS, UH, INTO THAT HOUSEHOLD.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

SO I THINK THE LESSON HERE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK BACK AT, AT DESIGN, HOUSING DESIGN FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IS THAT CORRECT? AB ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT.

AND, AND, AND YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT SCALE.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT I REM WHAT I KNOW IS THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

AND TELL ME A LITTLE, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE SIZE OF A BEDROOM IN A HOUSE THAT'S A HUNDRED YEARS OLD VERSUS THE SIZE OF A BEDROOM TODAY.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WELL, WE'RE TALKING IN, IN, IN, IN, UH, SAN ANTONIO SPECIFIC, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, UH, A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE, JUST SO I CAN DO THE NUMBERS IN MY HEAD, AND, UH, THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BEDROOM PROBABLY SHARE OF IT'S 20% DIFFERENT, 15% MORE.

YEAH.

UH, THE REST OF IT IN THE GREAT ROOM, OR THE BIGGER KITCHEN OR WHATEVER.

SO BASIC, BASICALLY, WE'VE, WE'VE, THE HOUSE ITSELF HAS EVOLVED TO BE MUCH BIGGER.

AND SO, AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE, THE, THE ANSWER IS THAT WE'VE SCALED THINGS UP.

THAT'S WHY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THEY COST MORE.

AND AGAIN, WE CAN LEARN FROM SORT OF HISTORIC STOCK TO UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS DON'T HAVE TO BE AS BIG AS WE THINK THEY ARE, AS THEY THINK THEY, AS WE THINK THEY NEED TO BE.

WELL, AND AGAIN, I, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A VILLAIN OUTTA SOMEBODY WHO WANTS A 4,500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.

THEY'RE PERFECTLY HAPPY TO DO THAT.

IT'S JUST THAT IN SAN ANTONIO WHERE YOU HAVE 60% OF ALL YOUR HOUSEHOLDS, ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, IS THAT THERE'S NO NEED FOR 3 35.

I MEAN, IF THEY WANT IT AND THEY HAVE THE MONEY, FINE, YEAH.

BUT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF NATURAL STANDING ASSETS RIGHT HERE THAT CAN MEET THOSE NEEDS, AND THEY'RE PROXIMATE TO OTHER STUFF, SHOPPING, SCHOOL AND, AND WORK.

SO I THINK THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT MANNY LIVES IN A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, .

UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MRMA, UH, FOR THAT.

I, I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT, UH, WE DID TALK A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT TO COUNSEL.

SO I WANT TO, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED AND, UH, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE FACTS AND FIGURES, UM, AS WE SAW REPORTED RECENTLY, 16,000 EVICTION FILINGS IN SAN ANTONIO.

AND THAT'S QUITE A LOT.

AND, AND, AND ONLY 1% RESULTED IN, IN SOMEONE STAYING IN THEIR HOME.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BIGGEST REASON THAT, THAT WE BROUGHT THIS, UH, FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE, AS PART OF OUR HOUSING STRATEGY IS BECAUSE I FEEL THAT, UH, LARGELY WE'RE LEAVING RENTERS OUT OF THE CONVERSATION.

AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN BRAN'S, UH, ASSERTION ABOUT THE RENTER'S COMMISSION, UH, WHICH I HOPE GETS HEARD.

IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS SINCE I FILED THAT C C R.

AND I THINK IT'S A SHAME, IT'S A REAL SHAME THAT WE WOULD HOLD UP CCRS LIKE THAT WHEN THERE IS A CRISIS GOING ON.

AND I MEAN, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, AND I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES ARE WILLING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT A RENTER'S COMMISSION.

AGAIN, WE NEED TO BE TAKING ACTION TODAY.

UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO RIGHT TO COUNSEL, THEY, I WAS ASKED A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION, WHAT, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WELL, WE THINK ABOUT HOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT EVOLVE, AND WE THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT'S A, IT CAN BE A LIFE ALTERING EVENT FOR SOMEBODY TO BE EVICTED, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ALREADY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO BEGIN WITH.

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MAYBE YOU'RE ESCAPING A BAD SITUATION AND YOU BARELY HAVE ENOUGH.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FACE THIS IDEA OF, OF BEING EVICTED.

NOW, PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, HEY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT, THAT DESERVE TO BE EVICTED.

THEY, THEY'VE TRASHED THE PLACE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMMITTING CRIMES OF, OF COURSE, RIGHT TO COUNSEL DOES NOT CHANGE THE MERITS OF, OF, OF THE CASE.

BUT YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT, THAT ONLY 1% OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE, UH, HAVING TO GO THROUGH AN EVICTION PROCESS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT DESERVE TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES.

SOME PEOPLE GET KICKED OUT OVER FEES OR, UH, AN UNPAID UTILITY BILL.

AND I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A SHAME.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I WAS SPEAKING TO A COUNCIL MEMBER THIS MORNING ABOUT IT, AND, AND I MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST POINTS PEOPLE MAKE ABOUT RIGHT TO COUNSEL IS HOW WE LOOK AT, UM, THE RIGHT TO COUNSEL WHEN SOMEBODY HAS COMMITTED A CRIME.

AND CAN YOU IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, 1963, THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN THAT THAT CASE OCCURRED, WA UH, GIDEON VERSUS WAYNE WRIGHT.

AND BEFORE THAT, SOMEBODY CAN ACCUSE YOU OF A CRIME.

AND IF YOU COULD NOT AFFORD AN ATTORNEY, WELL, TOUGH.

AND HERE, HERE WE ARE, UH, 16,000 EVICTION FILINGS.

AND I, I, I REALLY, I, I DARE ANYBODY TO TELL ME THAT'S NOT A LIFE ALTERING EVENT.

UH, AND, AND MOST OF THESE FOLKS, OF COURSE, THEY CAN'T AFFORD SOMEBODY THAT CAN COUNSEL 'EM.

THEY CAN, THEY CAN EDUCATE THEM ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS.

THEY CAN TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, HOW TO STRUCTURE A PATH FORWARD.

AND SO THAT, THAT I THINK, IS EXACTLY WHY WE NEED A RIGHT TO COUNSEL PROGRAM.

IN FACT, I'LL BE ASKING FOR, UH, MORE MONEY, UH, AT LEAST A MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR MID-YEAR REVIEW.

SO, AGAIN, ERIC, I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT.

I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN, UM, LOOK INTO THIS PROGRAM AND TO SEE THAT IT CAN HELP QUITE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NEW YORK CITY WITH THE RIGHT TO COUNSEL PROGRAM.

THE, THE DATA SHOWS THAT 84% OF THE FOLKS WHO, WHO UTILIZE RIGHT TO COUNSEL, GET TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES.

THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM 1% HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

AND I THINK WE CAN COVER A LOT OF GROUND AND SAVE, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, KEEP 'EM IN THEIR HOMES.

UH, I THINK THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF ALL THIS EFFORT HERE TODAY.

UM, SO I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH, WITH, WITH VERO ON, ON THIS PILOT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOLKS I'VE MET WITH IN NEW YORK CITY HAVE OFFERED TO COME DOWN AND, AND, AND TALK, AND MAYBE WE CAN DO SOME KIND OF A, A, A TOWN HALL OR, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, A A SOME KIND OF A GATHERING, UH, TO, TO REALLY HELP, UH, UNDERSTAND AND SHAPE IT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

UM, SO, SO THANK YOU, UH, AGAIN, UM, OH, BY THE WAY, I, I DO WANT TO, UH, THANK THE, UH, TEXAS RIO GRANDE, UH, LEGAL AID FOR, FOR ALL THAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND I, AND I'M, AGAIN, I, I'M HOPING THAT THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS I SENT YOU, VERO, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, I, I, I HOPE WE, WE CAN SHIFT THAT OVER TO THEM SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS AND, AND REALLY KIND OF JUST STUDY FROM A, FROM A POINT SOURCE, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE RIGHT, RIGHT WAY TO ADVOCATE FOR, FOR HOUSING.

UM, AND I SEE THAT WE HAVE, UH, DAVID CHE HERE FROM SAHA, AND I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT SAHA DOES.

UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER AGAIN, THAT LARGELY, I THINK IT'S OUR RENTERS THAT ARE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE.

UH, 46% OF OUR CITY IS A RENTER IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

AND OF COURSE, THE FOLKS THAT UTILIZE SAHA, OR DEPEND ON SAHA, UM, ARE, ARE VERY MUCH, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO, LOOKING AT SAHA AS SORT OF A LAST RESORT.

AND, UM, WE'RE REALLY, REALLY, WE DO APPRECIATE ALL THAT'S BEING DONE.

AND I WANT TO THANK, UH, DAVID, UH, FOR, FOR OUR CONVERSATION.

UM, WE DID TALK ABOUT, UH, A, A, A RENTER'S RIGHTS INFOGRAPHIC.

UM, YOU, YOU AND RICHARD MILK INVITED MY OFFICE TO, TO CREATE A DRAFT, UH, THAT WE WILL BE DELIVERING TO YOU HERE VERY SOON, THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE IN EVERY, IN EVERY, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

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YOU HAVE TO, TO HELP EDUCATE, UH, THE RENTERS, UH, MAKE THEM FEEL AT EASE.

BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF, OF HOUSING AS, AS WE ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS, IS, IS, IS THAT SECURITY THAT THEY MIGHT FEEL.

AND, AND, AND WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE IT, THEN THEY HAVE FEAR.

AND IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WE JUST SORT OF, UH, EXACERBATE THAT FEAR.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THAT, AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

UM, I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO THANK, UH, UH, THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT DID COME TO ME, AND YOU KNOW, THIS, DAVID, THAT THEY HAVE COME TO ME, UM, TO TALK TO ME ABOUT SOME OF THEIR ISSUES.

UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS, BUT THEY ARE VERY REAL.

AND, UM, I WANNA SPECIFICALLY THANK, UH, PONCHO AND THE GROUP FOR, FOR, UM, ALL THAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE, UH, I KNOW IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT EASY ESPECIALLY TO, TO COME AND TALK TO A COUNCIL MEMBER AND, AND ASK FOR HELP, UH, RUTH AND AMELIA ADAMS AS WELL.

UM, I ALSO WANNA MENTION THAT, UH, DATA SHARING WAS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

I THINK WE ACCEPTED THAT LAST YEAR AS C C R FILED IN 20, UH, 17.

AND THE KEY TO THAT IS, IS THAT WE, WE WANNA SHARE DATA.

WE TALKED ABOUT PRO THINGS LIKE PROPERTY TAXES, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS, FINDING OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE.

AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ'S, UH, UH, EFFORTS TO, TO HELP CLEAR TITLES.

I THINK THAT, THAT WE, WE REALLY NEED TO LEAN ON THIS DATA SHARING TO, TO HELP RESOLVE THIS.

UH, I KNOW THERE'S, I I'M HEARING FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT THAT THERE'S SOME RESISTANCE, UH, TO, TO, UH, TO REALLY SHARE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION.

AND I, AND I THINK WE NEED TO, UH, AGAIN, ALSO EXAMINE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PROVIDING AS MUCH INFORMATION MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AND THEN, UM, WE SPOKE ABOUT THE PRIVATE SECTOR BEING A PART OF THIS SOLUTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE REASON THINGS COST, WHAT THEY COST, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY WOULD SAY IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

IT JUST DOES.

IN FACT, YOU BUILD SOMETHING FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR, IT'S ONE COST.

WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING FOR THE CITY, IT'S A HIGHER COST.

DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT? I DIDN'T THINK SO.

IN FACT, I THINK PART OF IT IS THE WAY WE LOOK AT OUR RISK MANAGEMENT.

AND ERIC, I'M GONNA KIND OF POINT TO YOU ON THIS ONE BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

AND HERE'S, HERE'S THE, THE, THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING INDIVIDUAL ARTIST CONTRACTS OR CAPITAL PROJECTS, RISK MANAGEMENT PLAYS A BIG ROLE IN HOW MUCH IT COSTS EACH ONE OF THOSE, WE AWARD THOSE CONTRACTS TO.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND WAYS TO TAILOR SOLUTIONS OR MAYBE EVEN CREATE WAIVERS THAT ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

BECAUSE UNTIL WE DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MIS CLASSIFICATIONS.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, MULTIPLICATION OF, OF, OF BIDS FOR, FOR VERY, VERY SIMPLE TASKS.

UH, AND, YOU KNOW, BINDING AND INSURANCE PLAYS A BIG ROLE.

UH, I'M NOT SURE IF DONOVAN RIP AGREES WITH THAT, OR THAT'S PART OF HIS STUDY, BUT I, I'M GONNA THROW THAT IN THERE.

MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN ALSO LOOK INTO, BECAUSE I, I WILL GUARANTEE THAT IT'S, AGAIN, THE WAY THE PRIVATE SECTOR WORKS, IT, IT CAN TAILOR SORT OF SOME OF THAT RISK TO THE SCALE OF THAT JOB.

BUT ALL TOO OFTEN WE DON'T, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE DOING THAT HERE AS A CITY.

AND I'M NOT JUST PICKING ON THIS CITY.

I'M, I'M SAYING JUST IN GENERAL MUNICIPALITIES.

UM, AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

I, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THIS IDEA CAME OUT OF A MEETING WE HAD ABOUT ARTIST GRANTS AND THE, IT'S THE FACT THAT WE WOULD GRANT AN ARTIST, UH, A SMALL AMOUNT, BUT CHARGE 'EM A LOT OF MONEY TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INSURANCE JUST TO TAKE THAT VERY, VERY SMALL CONTRACT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I THINK WE CAN SOLVE QUICKLY AND WE CAN SOLVE TODAY.

UM, SO I WANT US TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK, AND ERIC, CAN,

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I WANT TO KIND OF GET YOUR COMMITMENT HERE TODAY ON THE DAAS.

AND I SEE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S PROBABLY TELLING HIM NOT TO TALK .

ERIC, I'D LIKE, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT RISK, AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW RISK RISK SHOULD BE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS, PART OF HOW WE ARE ADDRESSING, UH, AND BE MORE STRATEGIC AND SURGICAL ABOUT THESE PROJECTS.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING AB IF WE WANNA BUILD REAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, CAN WE, CAN WE WORK WITH RISK MANAGEMENT TO SAY, HEY, WE, WE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO EITHER CREATE SOME KIND OF A WAIVER OR, UH, LOWER THE, OR TAILOR THE, THE POLICY SO THAT IT'S NOT A BURDEN TO THE COST.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THANKS, COUNCILMAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THE CITY HAS REVIEWED THE, THAT BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE IN, IN OUR, IN OUR AGREEMENTS.

AND, AND I THINK AS PART OF THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING, WHETHER IT'S ARTS AGENCIES OR SIDEWALKS OR HOUSING RELATED WORK, UM, THAT WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN, UH, MAKE IT EASIER.

UM, AND, UH, LESS EXPENSIVE TO DO WORK WITH THE CITY WHILE STILL MAINTAINING A BALANCE OF PROTECTION.

AND I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY AN APPROPRIATE BALANCE.

AND, AND ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T DONE A LOT OF DIGGING INTO IT PERSONALLY, I SUSPECT THAT WE TREAT SOMETIMES, UM, $10 MILLION, UH, STREET PROJECTS THE SAME WAY WE DO, UH, UH, MAYBE SMALLER SCALE ISSUES.

SO, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AND DEVELOP SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND BRING 'EM TO THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, ERIC.

I, I, I, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK, I THINK EV YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PUZZLE AND I THINK EVERY PIECE COUNTS IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SOLVE THIS.

AND, UM, I KNOW COUNCILMAN PERRY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WORK, YOU WORKED ON IN, IN YOUR PAST LIFE.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, RISK MANAGEMENT I THINK IS, IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SO I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ON, ON THAT, UH, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE, THE, THE RIGHT TATER LANGUAGE.

I WANNA WORK WITH ALL MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS.

UH, 'CAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S ALSO ONE COMPONENT.

IT ALSO KEEPS AWAY CERTAIN TALENT.

YOU KNOW, IN FACT, WHEN I, WHEN I REVIEW SOME OF THE, UH, PROCUREMENT OF CERTAIN CONTRACTS, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF STRANGE THAT PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT, THAT ARE, THAT ARE EXPERTS IN THE INDUSTRY DON'T WANT TO BID BECAUSE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

AND YET THEY'RE REALLY, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD, BUT THEY JUST AVOID THESE CONTRACTS.

AND SO IF WE WANT TO BUILD A BETTER CITY, LET'S BUILD IT WITH SOME OF THE BEST PEOPLE.

SO, UM, SPEAKING OF BEST PEOPLE, MIKE ETIENNE'S GONNA MISS YOU, MAN.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU ARE, YOU'RE JUST A GREAT PERSON.

I REALLY, I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU.

WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU HERE.

UH, YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF BEING JUSTIN'S PROFESSOR.

UH, THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR NOT FAILING HIM.

UM, BUT, UH, WE WISH YOU THE BEST AND ALL THAT YOU DO.

AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING A, A CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.

WOW.

OKAY.

I WON'T BE THAT LONG.

UH, QUICK QUESTION, LORI.

UM, AND WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE, BUT ON SLIDE TWO, YOU HAVE THESE TWO PIE CHARTS, ONE FOR 19 AND ONE FOR 20 FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, THE GENERAL FUND, $9.6 MILLION IN 19, WHICH I DISAGREED WITH, BUT THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT.

AND THEN 20, YOU SHOW 10 MILLION.

SO THAT'S A SMALL INCREASE FROM 19.

BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TURS, WHERE WOULD THAT MONEY BE IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE TURS? WE WOULDN'T HAVE NOT HAD THE ADDITIONAL $6 MILLION.

WELL, WE WOULD'VE TO CUT PROGRAMS, BUT THAT TURS MONEY, I GUESS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT TURS MONEY WOULD'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE GENERAL FUND.

YES, THE TURS, IF THE TURS WERE EXPIRED, THAT FUNDING WOULD GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

SO REALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MUCH BIGGER INCREASE FROM 2019 TO 2020 OF THE GENERAL FUND MONEY.

THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.

THAT IS ACTUAL TAXING REINVESTMENTS OWN MONEY LEGALLY, AND IT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THEY DESIGNATED THE TURS BOUNDARIES.

RIGHT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

MM-HMM.

, BUT IF THE TURS WEREN'T THERE, I MEAN, I STILL, IT'S REALLY GENERAL FUNDS STILL, WHETHER IT'S IN THE TERMS OR IN THE GENERAL FUND ACCOUNT, BECAUSE IT'S SET ASIDE FROM THE TAXES THAT ARE BEING PUT IN BY THOSE BUSINESSES, HOUSES, WHATEVER.

SO IT, TO ME, THAT'S A MUCH BIGGER JUMP THAN JUST THE, UH, 400,000 THAT

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YOU'RE SHOWING ON SLIDE, ON THE FIRST, FIRST PIE CHART.

JUST MY COMMENTS ON THAT.

UM, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE TO VERO, UM, GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, LORI.

YEAH.

IS THERE SOME MUSIC GOING ON HERE? WHAT ARE WE MISSING? WE MISSING A PARTY.

OH, OKAY.

YES, I KNOW.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET ME HURRY UP HERE.

UM, OKAY.

YOU MADE A COMMENT WHILE AGO THAT WORKING WITH, I GUESS E D F YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO WHERE YOU DON'T COME BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU SAID A WHILE AGO? YES.

I MEAN, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE KIND OF WAGES WHERE YOU NEED LESS GAPS BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN AFFORD HOUSING THAT'S HIGH QUALITY IF THEY HAVE, UH, THE KIND OF WAGES WHERE THEY DON'T NEED, UM, A SUBSIDY.

YES, YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND HOW DO YOU SEE THAT PLAYING OUT? I MEAN, HOW MANY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A YEAR, FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS FOR THAT, FOR THAT TO HAPPEN IN THIS CITY OR NATIONALLY? NO, HERE, UM, WE'RE DEALING WITH SAN ANTONIO HERE.

THIS IS, THIS IS PROBABLY A 20 YEAR ISSUE.

YEAH.

UM, IT'S THAT KIND OF ISSUE.

OKAY.

BUT LOOKING AT, AND I'M GOING BACK TO THIS, THIS ORIGINAL BOOK HERE ON PAGE 49, 10 YEAR PLAN, THE 10 YEAR PLAN, 18,600 UNITS NECESSARY.

YEAH.

YES.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WAGES AND ALL THAT STUFF HAPPENING OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD.

DOES THAT INCLUDE THE FOUR, WHAT IS IT, 4 BILLION OF FUNDS OVER 10 YEARS TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM? UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

WELL, I MEAN, WE'RE, RIGHT NOW, THE 10 YEAR FUNDING PLAN IS REFLECTING $4 BILLION IN 10 YEARS.

SO THAT PAY GAP OR PAY THE WAGE GAP THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GONNA GO BEYOND THE 10 YEARS AND 20 YEARS, EVEN WITH $4 BILLION ADDED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IF THIS FUNDING PROPOSAL COMES TO FRUITION, THEY OVERLAP.

UM, AND THIS IS LEVERAGED FUNDS.

UM, THE GREEN, THE YELLOW, AND I CAN PROBABLY SHOW IT IN THE CHART IF YOU DON'T HAVE, Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THIS.

UH, SO YOU SEE THE LARGEST PROPORTION OF THE PIE CHART ARE LEVERAGED FUNDS.

SO IT IS, UH, SIGNIFICANT.

CAN YOU PUT THAT IN THERE? OOPS.

OH, THERE, SHE'S, THIS IS STILL THE THANK YOU.

THAT'S STILL LEVERAGED FUNDING, RIGHT? SO THIS IS NOT, UM, THIS IS OUR PARTNERS, THIS IS OTHER SOURCES, TWO POINT 0.8 BILLION, CORRECT.

LEVERAGED, CORRECT.

BUT EVEN WITH THAT, WE GOT ABOUT 60 MILLION TAX EXEMPTIONS, 133 MILLION IN CITY FEE WAIVERS, UH, RECAPITALIZING LOANS, 112 MILLION HOUSING BOND ISSUES, HOUSING BOND ISSUE, 250 MILLION, AND THEN THE GENERAL FUND 485 MILLION.

YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THAT SAYING, I, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN AFFORD THAT OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND AND THESE OTHER FUNDS AND STILL DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE IN THE CITY.

THAT'S NOT EVEN COUNTING THESE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALSO.

SO I'M JUST POINTING EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION TO THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AS FAR AS THE FUNDING PORTION, BECAUSE THIS MONEY JUST DIDN'T FALL OUT OF THE AIR.

YES.

SO LEVERAGE FUNDS COMING FROM THE FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND STATE PROGRAMS, THAT KIND OF THING.

BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THOSE COLORS BELOW THE YELLOW.

UNDERSTOOD.

WHERE DO THOSE FUNDS COME FROM? SO THEY'RE A COMBINATION OF SOURCES.

UM, SOME OF IT YOU MENTIONED, UH, GENERAL FUND, C D FEE WAIVERS, TAX EXTENSION AS WELL.

RIGHT.

UM, AND, AND, AND THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE ALL OF THOSE BELOW THE YELLOW, THAT'S OUR TAXPAYERS, OUR NEIGHBORS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO FOOTING THAT BILL BELOW THE YELLOW LINE.

CORRECT.

AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S, AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE HAD A PROBLEM WITH SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS PROGRAM.

WHY I VOTED NO, UM, BECAUSE

[02:45:01]

WE'RE TAKING ON A HUGE BURDEN ACROSS THE CITY.

AND THIS ISN'T JUST ON THE NORTH SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE SOUTHEAST.

IT'S THE ENTIRE CITY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING THAT BURDEN TO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND SO THIS IS A FUNDING PLAN RECOMMENDATION.

UM, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PAST, WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU IS, FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, WHAT THE CITY'S INVESTMENT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SPECIFIC AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS BEEN.

THE PIVOT POINT REALLY CAME AFTER 2017.

SO 10 YEARS AGO, THIS CITY WAS SPENDING LESS THAN $1 MILLION WHEN IT CAME TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, I THINK THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE AND THE REPORT PRESENTED TODAY, LAID OUT A PICTURE OF THE KIND OF CITY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

UM, I THINK THERE WAS SOME MOVE WITH THE BUDGET, WITH THE EQUITY APPROACH TO RE-LOOK AT THE RESOURCES.

UM, YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH THAT APPROACH, BUT PART OF THE RATIONALE AND THE DATA THAT WE HAD IN BOTH THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE, PART OF THE DATA THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE REPORT PRESENTED TODAY IS SAYING THERE IS A WAY TO REDIRECT RESOURCES TO ADD MORE RESOURCES.

I THINK THE REPORT, UM, THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE WAS A REPORT THAT REFLECTED THE INVESTMENT LEVELS FROM 20, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO TO NOW.

AND SO WE CAN CONTINUE INVESTING IN THAT MANNER, UM, OR WE CAN INVEST IN A DIFFERENT MANNER.

AND I THINK THE REPORT, THIS REPORT AND ITS FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS ARE SUGGESTING INVESTING IN A DIFFERENT MANNER THAN WE DID PRIOR TO 2017.

AND YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH THAT.

UM, YEAH.

AND, AND, AND I DO, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE UNDERTAKING HERE TO PUT ON THE BACKS OF OUR, YOU KNOW, RATE PAYERS.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN CALL 'EM RESOURCES, BUT WHAT YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS TAX DOLLARS.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RAISE MORE TAX DOLLARS TO COVER THIS HERE IN THE FUTURE.

SO JUST, I KNOW THIS IS ALL KIND OF WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE ON, ON THIS REPORT AND EVERYTHING, BUT I STILL WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, THAT, UM, THIS IS HUGE.

UH, AND IT'S A HUGE UNDERTAKING FOR THIS CITY TO BE, UM, MOVING TOWARDS.

AND, AND I WILL, I'LL CONTINUE TO RESIST IT.

UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON YOUR BOOK, SIR.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M GETTING TO SEE IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M GETTING TO SEE IT.

SO IF YOU CAN INDULGE ME, I'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO REVIEW THIS THING AND, UM, SEND COMMENTS BACK IN ON WHERE I HAVE QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, WHATEVER.

SO, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PROVIDING THIS LORI VERO.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

THAT'S ALL, SIR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY.

UH, JUST FOR NOTE, UH, THE COUNCIL DOES HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT, UH, ABSOLUTELY IS VITAL TODAY.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE CEREMONIALS AT FIVE 30.

SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF AND I WANNA APOLOGIZE TO MY, UH, FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE FOR MISSING THE FIRST PART OF, UH, THE GENERAL DISCUSSION.

BUT I THINK ALL OF US HAVE BEEN PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE FOR QUITE A WHILE.

I THINK ALL OF US RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT WE, WE HAVE A HOUSING SITUATION THAT NEEDS SERIOUS, UH, ADDRESSING.

AND I AGREE WITH MUCH OF WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM MY FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE ON THEIR COMMENTS ON WHAT THEY WERE HEARING EARLIER.

UH, MAYBE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MY FELLOW COUNCILMAN TO MY RIGHT.

BUT, UH, I, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A SERIOUS COMMITMENT TO HELPING PEOPLE STAY IN THEIR HOMES.

'CAUSE WE CAN'T BUILD OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.

WE CAN'T AFFORD TO SPEND BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, UH, TO BUILD MORE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES.

UH, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED SOME MORE, BUT IF WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES, IF WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, SECURE, EFFICIENT, AFFORDABLE, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST KIND OF HOUSING I THINK THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.

UH, AND, AND I HOPE WE CAN FIND SOME REMEDIES.

'CAUSE I RECOGNIZE IF WE TALK ABOUT REHABILITATION OF A HOME, UH, WE ALSO LOOK AT THE, THE COSTS INVOLVED IN THAT.

AND THEY'RE VERY HIGH WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE A, A 60 YEAR OLD HOME AND MAKE IT A 2020 YEAR OLD HOME.

UH, AND SO I, I THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUR WAY AROUND SOME OF THOSE OBSTACLES THAT WE FACE.

BUT I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF WORKING HARD TO DRAW.

GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE HOMES FOR EVERY SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS.

AND IF WE DON'T, WE'RE GONNA DOUBLE, TRIPLE, QUADRUPLE THE HOMELESS IN THIS CITY.

AND NONE OF US WANT TO SEE PEOPLE IN THAT SITUATION.

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SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

OKAY, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE

[Executive Session]

ATTENDING THE CEREMONIALS, THE CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE A, A, AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WE HAVE TO GET TO NOW.

WE WILL MAKE THAT, UH, EXPEDITIOUS.

UH, THE TIME IS NOW 5:08 PM ON WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 11TH, 2019.

THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL NOW MEET IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PURSUANT TO PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND DELIBERATE TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.087.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 REAL PROPERTY LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.

CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO LITIGATION INVOLVING THE CITY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.

CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY.