* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:01:29] GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING OF DECEMBER THE 12TH, 2019. COUNCIL MEMBER VINNO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER CAVEO HAAL. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. HAPPY HOLIDAYS. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. MERRY CHRISTMAS. AND MAYOR NURENBERG HERE. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL A SESSION AGENDA. THE TIME IS 9:13 AM UH, TO BEGIN [1. Invocation] OUR SESSION THIS MORNING, I'LL ASK FOR OUR, UH, COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN PERRY TO INTRODUCE OUR INDICATOR. GREAT. THANK YOU, SIR. WHO IN HERE BELIEVES IN MIRACLES? I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR CHRISTMAS, THE MIRACLES. WELL, TODAY WE HAVE A MIRACLE HERE, RIGHT HERE IN THE CHAMBERS. AND IT'S DR. DAVID MIRACLE. ALL RIGHT. HEY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GREAT, GREAT, GREAT. UH, DR. MIRACLE, UH, HE'S A LEAD PASTOR AT WATERSHED CHURCH. WATERSHED. WATERSHED CHURCH IS A NON-DENOMINATIONAL CHURCH LOCATED IN DISTRICT 10 IN THE NORTH BROADWAY AREA. HE'S PROVIDED OUR COMMUNITY MORE THAN 34 YEARS OF MINISTRY WORK SO FAR, AND COMBINES HIS LOVE FOR MINISTRY WITH THE HOBBIES OF COUNSELING AND REAL ESTATE TO FURTHER SERVE THE PEOPLE IN SAN ANTONIO AND BEYOND. HE EARNED HIS DOCTORATE IN EDUCATIONAL LEADERSHIP IN 2004 AND A MASTER'S IN RELIGIOUS EDUCATION IN 1993 FROM SOUTHWESTERN SEMINARY. BUT YOU WENT TO TEXAS TECH ALSO, RIGHT? I DID, YEP. WEARING THE TEXAS TECH TIE. THERE YOU GO. UM, DR. MIRACLE IS A CERTIFIED PASTORAL ADDICTIONS COUNSELOR FOR, FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF ADDICTION COUNSELORS. HE'S ALSO PRESIDENT AND CO-FOUNDER OF MIRACLE MINISTRIES AND THE PRESIDENT AND CO-FOUNDER OF MIRACLE MAKEOVER. IT'S A REAL ESTATE FIX AND FLIP SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND OTHER RENTALS. HE'S BEEN MARRIED FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS TO LORI, WHO SERVES AS A EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT LAUREL HEIGHTS, U M C WEEKDAY SCHOOL. THEY HAVE THREE DAUGHTERS, ABBY, BETHANY, AND MARIAH, AND THREE GRANDCHILDREN WITH TWO MORE ON THE WAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING, UH, TO OPEN OUR SESSION, AND PLEASE, IF YOU WILL, IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO GET TO BE HERE TODAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WAS WORRIED ABOUT WHAT I WAS GONNA WEAR, AND I SEE I HAD NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT . SO, UH, LET'S PRAY TOGETHER. LORD JESUS, WE COME TO YOU TODAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS LAST SESSION OF THIS COUNCIL, UH, FOR THIS YEAR. AND WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE DONE A LOT OF GREAT WORK, HARD WORK THIS YEAR. WE PRAY TODAY THAT YOU WOULD HELP THEM TO PERSEVERE THROUGH THIS LAST MEETING. WE PRAY, LORD, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM AS THEY GUIDE OUR CITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE PEOPLE. AND LORD, WE JUST PRAY TODAY THAT AS THEY MEET AND AS THEY, UH, GO THROUGH THEIR AGENDA, THAT THEY WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL IN ACCOMPLISHING ALL THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THEM TO DO. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY GOVERNMENT. WE THANK YOU [00:05:01] FOR EVERY, UH, FIRST RESPONDER AND OTHERS WHO, UH, ARE HERE TODAY OR MAYBE SERVING AROUND OUR CITY. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, FOR EVERY OPINION, EVERY IDEA. AND WE PRAY, LORD, THAT YOU WOULD LET US USE OUR CREATIVITY TO MAKE SAN ANTONIO THE GREATEST PLACE TO LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. MAY GOD BLESS US ALL. IT'S IN YOUR NAME, WE PRAY, AMEN [2. Pledge of Allegiance] TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU, PASTOR MIRACLE. ALRIGHT, [3. Approval of Minutes for the City Council Regular Meeting of October 17, 2019, the Regular Meetings of October 30 - 31, 2019, and the Special Meeting of October 31, 2019.] AT THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF OCTOBER 17, 30, 31, AND A SPECIAL MEETING ON 31. OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MINUTES. STATES IS READ, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. UM, THIS [Consent Agenda] TIME WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THAT WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY. UH, THE REST OF THE ITEMS REMAIN ON CONSENT. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY? 27. 27 40. ITEM 40. I JUST WANT HIGHLIGHT. OKAY. JUST, ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE ITEMS 4 27 AND 40 TO BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY, IF THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. I'M SORRY, MAYOR, I HAD SEVERAL ITEMS TO PULL. I THOUGHT THEY HAD GIVEN THEM TO YOU IN ADVANCE, SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIMME ONE SECOND. I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU WHICH ONES THEY WERE. SURE. OKAY. AND TO NOTE, UH, FOR THE RECORD, ITEM 26 WAS PULLED FORM FROM CONSIDERATION TODAY, WILL NOT BE HEARD. OKAY. WHERE, I'M SORRY. LOOKING FOR MY TEAM HERE TO, UM, TELL ME WHICH ONES THE ITEMS WERE TO PULL. IT WAS, UH, IS IT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER? I, I HAVE POSSIBLE PULLING OF ITEM 38. WAS THAT IT? THE, THEY'RE ONE REGARDING THE SCOOTERS. UH, THE ONE REGARDING THE RED BIRD ESTATE. OKAY. THAT'S ITEM, THAT'S ITEM 38. OKAY. SO FAR I HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, UH, I'LL FIGURE IT OUT AND JUST DO IT. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT ITEMS 4 27, 38, AND 40 FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ALRIGHT. IF THAT'S, UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION INDIVIDUALLY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A BALANCE. UH, EXCUSE ME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR 4 27, 38, AND 40. AND AGAIN, ITEM 26 WILL NOT BE HEARD. WE'LL NOW HEAR A COMMENT, UH, FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS CITIZENS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT. OKAY. NO ITEMS OR NO CITIZEN SIGNED UP FOR ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT. I'M TOLD, I'M SORRY. THEY'RE THERE ARE. THERE ARE. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. BUT I AM GOING TO HAVE, UH, RUDY, GO AHEAD AND MAKE A PRESENTATION ON ITEM 43 AND Z ONE AT THIS TIME. GO AHEAD, RUDY. YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, GOOD MORNING. UH, RELATED TO AGENDA ITEM 43 AND Z ONE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES, ALONG WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION, HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE CITY CLERK. FURTHER, THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING RELATED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO SPEAK FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN AGENDA ITEMS 43 AND Z ONE. THANK YOU, SIR. GREAT. AND ITEMS 43 AND Z ONE, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THOSE. GO AHEAD AND TAKE THEIR TIME. UM, FOR THE RECORD, ITEMS 43 AND Z ONE REMAIN ON CONSENT. UM, SO THOSE CITIZENS SIGNED [00:10:01] UP TO SPEAK FOR IT. UH, MAY CHOOSE TO DO SO OR NOT, UH, DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANT TO HOLD YOUR TIME. BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND SI I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK THEIR NAMES IN ORDER. IF YOU WANNA COME FORWARD, IF YOU DECLINE TO USE YOUR TIME, PLEASE JUST SIGNAL ME AND I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON. FIRST CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM Z. ONE IS, EXCUSE ME, IT'S NOT LABELED RIGHT. JACK FINGER, MAYOR BERG AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR, I'M SORRY, JACK, DID YOU SIGN UP FOR 43? NOT, NOT, UH, 43, NO. OKAY. SO YOU'RE OKAY. I'M CALLING YOU UP NOW FOR 41. THERE ARE NO, NO FURTHER CITIZEN SIGNED UP FOR SPEAKING ON ITEM 43. SO, JACK, YOU'RE SIGNED UP FOR AN ITEM THAT'S REMAINING ON CONSENT. GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR TIME ON THAT ITEM. OKAY. WELL, MR. NURNBERG AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M. FINGER. YES, I HAVE NOT JUST ONE, BUT SEVERAL ITEMS ON THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA THAT I DO WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, UH, IN THE SPIRIT OF THE CHRISTMAS. MY GOLLY, I THINK I'LL, I'LL ACTUALLY OFFER A, A LEFT-HANDED COMPLIMENT HERE. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT ITEM NUMBER 27 IS ON THE AGENDA. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S A, IT'S A MATTER OF TIGHTENING UP SOME, UH, SOME ZONING REGULATIONS. YEAH. THE, UH, MANY OF US WHO LIVE IN THE BEACON HILL AREA NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN OTHER LITTLE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND TOWN HAVE SEEN NEW PROJECTS GO UP NEXT TO OUR HOMES. NEW PROJECTS GO UP IN VACANT LOTS, BUT SOMETIMES THESE PROJECTS WELL INTENTIONED, AS THEY MAY HAVE SEEN TO SOMEBODY, UM, HAVE, ARE TALL, TALL HOUSES, HOUSES RIGHT NEXT TO SMALL HOUSES. BIG DISPARITY THERE. LAST WEEK Y'ALL ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE AND, UH, WE'RE GLAD TO SEE IT, BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SOME WORDING THAT THAT, UH, TENDS TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS, AND WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THAT, UH, SOMEBODY HAS TRIED TO, TO DO THAT VERY THING THERE. WE DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BEING DISRUPTED, MOTORISTS PASSENGERS BY PEDESTRIANS COMING BY AND SAYING, WHAT THE HECK IS THAT MONSTROSITY DOING NEXT TO THAT REGULAR HOUSE RIGHT THERE? YEAH. SO WE, WE ARE THANKFUL FOR SOMEBODY TRYING TO CORRECT THIS PROBLEM. OTHER ITEMS ON THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA, THE, UH, ONE THING, ONE, SOME THINGS THAT Y'ALL HAVE ON GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THE, UH, ALAMEDA THEATER. YEAH. ITEM NUMBER 41. YEAH. WELL, THE ALAMEDA THEATER HAS A, USED TO HAVE A DECENT HISTORY HERE IN TOWN. SHOWED THAT MANY HISPANIC FILMS FROM MEXICO AND SO FORTH BACK IN THE FORTIES, FIFTIES, SIXTIES, AND SO FORTH, FELL INTO DISREPAIR OVER THE YEARS. NOBODY REALLY WANTED TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. THEY ATTEMPTED TO HAVE FUNDRAISERS, BUT THEY COULDN'T RAISE ANY MONEY TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. AND SO THEY, THEY PLACED, THEY THREW THEMSELVES ON THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO HELP THEM. AND YOU, YOU GUYS ARE YOUR PREDECESSORS, DECIDED TO DO THAT. AND, UM, WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS, AND SEE, WE, WE, AS SOON AS WE NEVER GET A VOTE ON THIS STUFF FOR WHAT WE CONSIDER BOONDOGGLES AND, UH, AND CONTINUE TODAY, YOU'RE CONTINUING TO THAT, UH, THAT VERY SAME SITUATION WITH, WELL, A MILLION AND A HALF FOR, FOR IT'S REINVESTMENT ZONE. YES. AND, UH, OTHER THINGS FOR READING REMEDIATION, 900, A THOUSAND DOLLARS WITH TEXAS PUBLIC RADIO, FIVE, HALF A MILLION WITH A, THE CONSERVANCY. IT, IT JUST KEEPS GOING ON AND ON AND ON. THERE IS NEVER ANY STOP TO THIS. SOME OF US ARE GETTING A LITTLE TIRED OF THAT. THERE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE HERE. OH, WELL, SO MANY SCANDALS. A LITTLE TIME. THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. OKAY. THE QUEUE DISAPPEARED. THE QUEUE DISAPPEARED. NOW, NOW THERE'S, EVERYBODY'S CLEARED OFF. OKAY. I'M GONNA ASK, UH, COUNCIL, UH, TO GO AHEAD AND TAP BACK INTO THE QUEUE. UH, IT CLEARED OUT THE QUEUE, SO, UH, I'LL CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH COMMENT. UH, OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL? [00:15:02] NO. I HAD TAPPED IN TO GIVE YOU MY ITEM FOR POLL FOR TO POLL. GOT IT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. HIGHLIGHT, UM, ITEM NUMBER 16 IN PARTICULAR, THAT IS A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME ON SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS. THANK YOU TO COPPERPOINT, WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH US ON THAT. IT'S A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLAND. 'CAUSE WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE A, A VISION ZERO CITY. AND WE HAVE OUR SENIOR LIVING FACILITY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS NEW, UM, MULTIFAMILY UNIT THAT'S COMING UP. AND SO I WANNA THANK EVERYONE IN INVOLVED IN THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM NUMBER 28. IT IS, UM, THE APPOINTMENT OF MARIA LUISA ALVARADO TO OUR COMMISSION ON THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. SHE IS ONLY THE SECOND WOMAN THAT IS GOING TO BE SITTING ON THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, SO I'M GLAD THAT SHE IS, UH, SHE SAID YES, AND SHE'S STEPPING UP TO THIS. AND THEN FINALLY, UM, ON ITEM NUMBER 34 ON ECHO EAST, I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO BE TAKING MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN'S LEAD ON THIS, BUT I KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS STILL WITH THE P F C AND HOPEFULLY WHEN, UM, LOOKING, LOOKING AT INCOME AVERAGING THERE IN THAT AREA. SO, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. AND THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN GRO FOR EVERYTHING, UM, THAT YOU'RE DOING TO ASSIST US WITH THIS PROJECT. WE KNOW THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ONE OF THE KEY PARTS OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO HIGHLIGHT NUMBER 19, UM, ON THE AGENDA AND JUST SAY THANK YOU TO THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR GIFTING DISTRICT TWO WITH THIS PARK. I KNOW THAT IN THAT AREA, THERE'S SOME MUCH NEEDED REVITALIZATION GOING ALONG WITH THAT. AND THIS PARK AREA WILL BE DEFINITELY USED AND, UH, VERY WELCOMED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS IT CONTINUES TO DEVELOP. SO I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, UH, TO SAN ANTONIO, UH, HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR THEIR GIFT. AND THEN, UM, ALSO TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, NUMBER 33. AND THAT IS, UH, THE AGREEMENT WITH JUDITH GRANT FOR THE FETAL INFANT MORTALITY REVIEW AND MATERNAL MOR MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY, UH, REVIEW. WE KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THAT ONE OF THE HIGHEST POPULATIONS THAT ARE UNDERGOING, UM, THIS CRISIS IS WHAT IT IS, IS THE AFRICAN AMERICAN FEMALE. AND A LOT OF THAT DEALS WITH JUST THE STIGMA AND, UH, THE TRAUMA THAT THEY RECEIVE UNDER THE MEDICAL CARE. AND SO TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS TRULY LOOKING INTO THIS TO SAY, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM AND HOW CAN WE ADDRESS IT? HOW CAN WE FIX IT? UM, AS A MOTHER OF FOUR PREMATURE CHILDREN THAT I KNOW AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, UM, DEFINITELY LOOKING INTO HOW WE CAN SAVE, UM, OUR POPULATION THROUGH WHAT WE AS A CITY CAN DO, IS DEFINITELY A AWARDED THE PRAISE THAT. SO I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS TO, TO STAY ON CONSENT. I THANK THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR LOOKING AT WHAT WE AS A CITY TRULY DO FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. AND THIS REVIEW, THIS REPORT WILL TRULY START TOUCHING THE HEARTS OF THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH WE LIVE. SO, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. THANK YOU, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT A PROJECT THERE IN DISTRICT 10 AS WELL. IF YOU'VE EVER GONE DOWN HARRY WACH AND TRIED TO MAKE THAT INTERCHANGE OR MOVE UP TO AUSTIN HIGHWAY, YOU FIND YOURSELF NOT BEING ABLE TO DO IT UNLESS YOU GO THROUGH A PARKING LOT AT H E B OR EITHER AT LOWE'S, UH, OR GOING WAY AROUND IT. SO IT'S BEEN A MESS THERE FOR YEARS. AND, AND HARRY WURZBACH IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE GOING INTO FORT SAM. SO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WHICH IS CALLED A SPEY, IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT SPEY STOOD FOR. IT'S A SINGLE POINT URBAN INTERSECTION WHERE WE ARE GONNA GET, IT'S A MODIFIED TYPE OF AN INTERSECTION, BUT AT LEAST IT WILL HELP THAT TRAFFIC FLOW TO WHERE YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE PARKING LOTS ANYMORE TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION FROM HARRY WACH TO AUSTIN HIGHWAY, OR AUSTIN HIGHWAY TO HARRY WACH. SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN NEEDED FOR YEARS. UH, WE'VE TEAMED UP WITH TXDOT AND, UH, SAWS IS JUMPING IN. WE'RE, THIS IS OVER A $20 MILLION PROJECT THAT'S GONNA GET STARTED IN FEBRUARY. IT'S GONNA BE A LONG PROCESS. IT'S A TWO YEAR PROJECT. IT WON'T BE DONE UNTIL FEBRUARY, 2022 IF EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT. [00:20:02] BUT, UH, ONCE WE GET THIS PROJECT COMPLETED, IT'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC. A FANTASTIC ADDITION TO DISTRICT 10, AND WE'RE SO VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE FINALLY GETTING THIS PROJECT DONE. SO JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCILS MEMBER PERRY. COUNCILS MEMBER TREVINO. THANK YOU MAYOR. AND, UM, WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM NUMBER 41 , UH, WANNA THANK ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS, CORTEZ FAMILY, T P R, LORI HOUSTON. UM, I REALLY THINK THIS IS AN AMAZING, AMAZING PROJECT AND REALLY, TRULY A CATALYTIC, UH, PROJECT FOR THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN. AND, UH, OF COURSE, PROJECTS LIKE SAN PEDRO CREEK AND HOW WE'LL COMPLEMENT, UH, THAT ENTIRE AREA AS WELL AS THE, THE REGION, THE UNIVA UNIVA REVITALIZATION, . UH, SO I WANT TO THANK CENTRO AS WELL FOR THEIR EFFORTS. UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UH, THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN IS, IS, IS TRULY BEING REVITALIZED. AND, UH, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE PLACE. IT'S A SPECIAL PLACE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MANY MEMORIES, UH, THE HOME FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF HISTORY TO, TO LATINOS IN SAN ANTONIO. AND IT WILL BE THE HOME FOR LATINO PERFORMING ARTS AT A MODEL OF PRESERVATION FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. UH, AGAIN, WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCIO GARCIA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM NUMBER 23, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL 10 YEAR, UM, LEASE FOR THE WILLIE CORTES CENTER. I'D ALSO LIKE TO, AT THIS TIME, THANK, UH, STATE REPRESENTATIVE PHILIP CORTEZ, WHO WAS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH US THIS MORNING, BUT WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CORTEZ SENIOR CENTER AS THE ONLY COMPREHENSIVE SENIOR CENTER CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT FOUR. THE CENTER IS NAMED AFTER THE STATE REPRESENTATIVES GRANDFATHER SINCE SEPTEMBER, 2009. THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS HOSTED THE WILLY CORTES SENIOR CENTER AT 55 12 SOUTHWEST MILITARY DRIVE. THE CENTER PROVIDES MEALS, COMPUTER CLASSES, AND EXERCISE AND HEALTH RELATED SERVICES AND PROGRAMS. OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, THE CENTER HAS SERVED AN ESTIMATED 17,472 SENIORS WHO RESIDE IN D FOUR. CURRENTLY, THE CENTER PROVIDES MEALS AND SERVICES TO APPROXIMATELY 110 SENIORS DAILY. THE NEW MULTI-GENERATIONAL CENTER SITE IN D FOUR THAT WILL OFFER SENIOR PROGRAMMING APPROVED THROUGH THE 2017 BOND IS SCHEDULED TO OPEN IN 2022 AT HERITAGE PARK. BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE TODAY THAT THE LEASE, UH, FOR THE WILLY CORTES CENTER FOR AN ADDITIONAL 10 YEARS IS HERE. AND I'M SURE THAT WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF HAPPY SENIORS AND DISTRICTS FOUR. SO THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF THAT HELPED MAKE THIS HAPPEN. I'M SURE THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT, UH, GREAT NEWS TO THE WILLY CORTES SENIOR CENTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM NUMBER 34, UH, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE BEARD COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT AT UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEMS TO ESTABLISH THE INSTITUTE FOR TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE RELATED TO THE SAN ANTONIO METROPOLITAN HEALTH DISTRICT ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCE PROGRAM FOR AN AMOUNT UP TO 606,992 COMMENCING DECEMBER 1ST, AND TERMINATING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH WITH OPTIONS TO RENEW FOR FOUR ONE YEAR TERMS. SO, UH, THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING OUR BUDGET SESSION, UM, AS WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS ISSUES OF CHILD ABUSE AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UH, AND NOW, UM, ULTIMATELY POVERTY IN OUR COMMUNITY. UM, THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT I WORKED WITH, WITH DR. BRIDGER, UM, AND SHE, UH, MADE THE, THE, UH, DR. BRIDGER, COULD YOU JUST COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS MAY, UM, HAVE, UH, SUCH A TREMENDOUS, UH, IMPACT FOR OUR CITY? IT, I, IT'S, IT'S AN ITEM TO HIGHLIGHT, BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IN THE COUNTRY. UH, UH, MAYBE ONE OF THE SECOND WHERE WE'RE STARTING THIS INSTITUTE AND WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR HOW WE WILL, UM, INFORM SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PROJECT. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HIGHLIGHTING MY FAVORITE PROJECT. UM, IT IS THE FIRST IN THE NATION FOR, UM, A CITY HOSPITAL, UM, PARTNERSHIP TO BRING TOGETHER THE BEST RESEARCH AROUND, UM, HOW TO DEAL WITH CHILDHOOD TRAUMA AND, UM, WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THE COMMUNITY, UH, FIGURE OUT HOW TO BECOME TRAUMA INFORMED. SO THIS IS REALLY EXCITING TO HAVE THE, THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE THERE. GREAT. AND SO IT'LL, UM, IS ONE YEAR, IT'S, I SEE THAT IT'S GONNA RENEW EVERY YEAR. SO IS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO ESTABLISH AND IF WE'RE ALWAYS GOING THROUGH RENEWAL PROCESS, THE FIVE YEAR BUSINESS PLAN LAYS OUT FOR US, UM, HOW TO [00:25:01] RELY LESS AND LESS ON CITY AND HOSPITAL DISTRICT FUNDING, AND MORE ON, UM, ORGANIZATIONS COVERING THE COST OF THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS. THE DESIGN OF THIS INITIATIVE, UM, SERVES INITIALLY BEXAR COUNTY, BUT THEN GROWS PRETTY QUICKLY TO SERVE THE ENTIRETY OF SOUTH TEXAS. AND IN DOING SO, ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE THE COST OF PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES, UM, TO ENTITIES OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. SO IT, IT HAS A FIVE YEAR BUSINESS PLAN THAT WILL HAVE US BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT BY THE END OF THAT FIFTH YEAR. GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL THE RESEARCH. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK, DR. BRIDGET. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GUESS I DID HAVE SOMETHING TO TO SAY, UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, I WANNA ALSO, UH, EXPRESS MY, MY EXCITEMENT AT THE ALAMEDA THEATER, ALAMEDA THEATER, UM, MOVING FORWARD. UM, I, I USED TO GO THERE AS A LITTLE GIRL, UM, UH, WITH MY PARENTS. AND, UH, SO I'M GLAD TO SEE IT COME BACK TO, TO LIFE. SO THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FOR, FOR WORKING ON THAT. AND TO THE, TO T P R AND LAFA CORTES. UM, AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS, UH, COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ ON THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE AND DR. BRIDGER ON MOVING THAT FORWARD. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY, UH, EXCITING, UH, FOR US. UH, I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, ONE OF MY APPOINTEES THAT'S, UH, UH, MS. DORIS GRIFFIN. UH, IF YOU DON'T KNOW HER, SHE HAS A WHOLE SENIOR CENTER NAMED AFTER HER IN DISTRICT SEVEN. AND OF COURSE, WE ARE REAPPOINTING HER TO THE, UH, CITY AND COUNTY JOINT COMMISSION ON ELDERLY AFFAIRS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TWO ITEMS, UH, THAT ARE ON CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER 20 AND ITEM NUMBER 21. BOTH OF THESE ARE THE SALE OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY. UH, ITEM NUMBER 20 WILL, UH, RECEIVE A FEE OF $487,000 FOR THE SALE OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. ITEM NUMBER 21, UH, BRINGS IN $21,000. BOTH OF THESE ARE TARGETED TO GO INTO OUR GENERAL FUND, AND WITH THE CONCERN I KNOW OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS SHARE WITH, UH, OUR NEED TO DEVELOP MORE SOURCES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UH, I WOULD LIKE JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THIS FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE TRY TO REDIRECT FUTURE FUNDS FROM LAND ACQUISITION. I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING TODAY, BUT THINK IF WE COULD HAVE PUT NEARLY $500,000 INTO FUNDING SOURCES TO HELP CREATE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OUT OF THESE TWO, RATHER THAN INTO OUR GENERAL FUND. I'D LIKE TO SEE AN ANALYSIS OF ALL OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS AND ITS GENERAL VALUE, AND THEN, UH, USE THAT FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE COUNCIL TO FIND A WAY TO ALLOCATE THAT INTO A MORE OF AN AFFORDABLE, UH, HOUSING FUND, MAYBE WORKING WITH, UH, THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST OR, OR SOME OTHER FUND. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT KIND OF MONEY COMING IN FROM THE SALE OF PROPERTY CAN DO A LOT TO ENABLE US TO ASSIST IN MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE, AND, UM, APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE HAS BEEN, UH, FAIRLY CREATIVE IN LOOKING FOR REVENUE STREAMS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I THINK THAT, UH, SHOULD BE NOTED. UH, AND ERIC, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE HEARD, UH, THE REQUEST ON VALUATION OF, OF CITY PROPERTY, SO I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW THAT UP AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AND SEE WHAT KINDS OF CREATIVE REVENUE STREAMS WE COULD COME UP WITH FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. OKAY, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND NOW FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAVED FOR 4 27, 38, AND 40. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. UH, WE DO [Additional Item] HAVE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AND I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES. I WANTED TO, UM, BEFORE WE BREAK FOR THE HOLIDAYS, REMIND YOU ALL THAT THERE'S A VERY IMPORTANT GAME GOING ON. THE 2019 ALAMO WILL BE PLAYED ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2019 WITH KICKOFF SCHEDULED FOR, UH, SIX 30, UM, AND IT WILL BE THE 27TH EDITION OF THE ALAMO BOWL, AND WILL BE ONE OF THE 20 19 20 20 BOWL UM, GAMES. CONCLUDING THE 2019 FOOTBALL SEASON SPONSORED BY VALERO ENERGY. THE GAME IS OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS THE VALERO ALAMO BOWL. THE ALAMO BOWL HAS HOSTED 25 BOWL GAMES AND NINE NEUTRAL [00:30:01] SITE GAMES AT THE ALAMO DOME IN SAN ANTONIO. THESE 33 GAMES HAD ATTRACTED OVER 2.35 MILLION SPECTATORS GENERATING A DIRECT ECONOMIC IMPACT IN EXCESS OF 560 MILLION AND CONTRIBUTING OVER $98 MILLION TO HIGHER EDUCATION THROUGH TEAM PAYOUTS AND LOCAL SCHOLARSHIPS. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ATTEND AND SUPPORT EDUCATION OVER 4 MILLION VIEWERS. WATCH THE 2017 GAME BETWEEN NUMBER 15 T C U AND NUMBER 13, STANFORD. THIS YEAR'S ALA MOBO WILL BE PLAYING BETWEEN THE TEXAS LONGHORNS HOOKUP OF THE BIG 12 CONFERENCE WITH THE UTAH YOUTHS OF PAC 12 CONFERENCE. SORRY. THIS WILL BE THE SECOND TIME THAT THE TWO PROGRAMS HAVE MET. THE PRIOR MEETING WAS IN 19 82, 1, OF COURSE, BY UT THIS WILL BE TEXAS FOURTH ALA MOBO, TYING THE LONGHORNS WITH IOWA AND OKLAHOMA STATE FOR MOST ALAMO BOWL WIN. UH, MO ALAMO BOWL APPEARANCES, TEXAS IS TWO ONE PRIOR TO THE ALAMO BOWL APPEARANCES. AND, UM, AS A PROUD ALUM OF UT AUSTIN, I'LL BE DRESSED AND BURNT ORANGE LIKE FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON, AND I HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE. I DID, UM, BRING MY GAME SEAT TODAY, SO I'M ALREADY SITTING ON IT, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOOK 'EM HORNS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. I SEE STEVE BACK THERE. I HOPE YOU'RE READY FOR A SELLOUT, STEVE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. UM, AT THIS [4. 19-8786 Approving two ordinances relating to the Dockless Vehicle Program: [Lori Houston, Assistant City Manager; John Jacks, Director, Center City Development and Operations]] TIME WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR BUSINESS AGENDA. WE WILL START WITH ITEM FOUR. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS APPROVING TWO ORDINANCES RELATED TO THE DOCKLESS VEHICLE PROGRAM. ITEM FOUR A IS THE ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 19 ENTITLED MOTOR ASSISTED SCOOTERS, ELECTRIC BICYCLES AND BICYCLES, EQUIPPED WITH G P S RELATED TO THE DOCKLESS VEHICLE PROGRAM, CONSISTENT WITH TERMS FOR OPERATION AND PERMITTING AS DEVELOPED THROUGH THE R F P PROCESS AND NEGOTIATED AGREEMENTS WITH SELECTED ENTITIES. ITEM FOUR B IS THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE NEGOTIATION AND THE EXECUTION OF PERMIT AND REVENUE AGREEMENTS WITH LYME RAZOR AND BURN FOR THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO DEPLOY AND OPERATE DOCKLESS VEHICLES ON CITY RIGHT OF WAY FOR A TERM OF TWO YEARS, BEGINNING ON JANUARY 12TH, 2020, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 GENERAL FUND REVENUE BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF $529,191, AND APPROPRIATING THAT AMOUNT IN THE CENTER CITY DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATIONS GENERAL FUND TO BE USED FOR PROGRAM RELATED EXPENSES, CREATING FOUR POSITIONS TO OVERSEE AND ADMINISTER THE DOCKLESS VEHICLE PROGRAM AND RESERVING $105,168 FOR TRANSPORTATION RELATED INITIATIVES. ALL RIGHT, JOHN, UH, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL. JOHN JACKS WITH THE CENTER CITY DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT. UM, JUST WANNA START WITH A LITTLE RE UH, RECAP OR REVIEW OF, OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. UM, YOU ALL RECOMMENDED, UH, THAT WE ISSUE AN R F P AND, AND, UM, FOR THREE COMPANIES TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO OPERATE DOCKLESS VEHICLES, UM, HERE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF SAN ANTONIO. THAT R F P WAS ISSUED, UH, LAST SUMMER. UM, AND THEN THE, UH, EVALUATION COMMITTEE WAS FORMED. UH, WE DID AN INITIAL SCORING IN SEPTEMBER. UH, THERE WERE NINE APPLICANTS TO THAT R F P. THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UM, NARROWED THAT DOWN TO FIVE COMPANIES TO BRING IN FOR INTERVIEWS. SO WE INTERVIEWED, UM, FIVE DIFFERENT, UH, OPERATORS, UM, AND THEN NARROWED THAT DOWN TO THE THREE, UH, THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO YOU ALL TODAY. UM, AND YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE DID BRIEF YOU ALL IN B SESSION BACK IN OCTOBER. UH, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE WAS MADE UP OF MEMBERS OF CITY STAFF. UM, SOME OF US THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH SCOOTERS, UM, IN DOCKLESS VEHICLES SINCE THEY FIRST, UH, APPEARED IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, WE HAD ART REINHARDT FROM THE T C I, HELPING US WITH TRANSPORTATION ISSUES OR QUESTIONS, CAPTAIN BENAVIDEZ WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, WE ALSO HAD A MEMBER OF THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY. UM, THE VISITOR, UM, TOURIST ENTITY WAS REPRESENTED THROUGH THE SAN ANTONIO, UM, HOTEL AND LODGING ASSOCIATION. AND WE ALSO HAD, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES, UM, FROM SOME OF THE SURROUNDING, UM, AREAS THAT ARE IMPACTED THE MOST. UM, AND WE ALSO HAD A, UH, RESIDENT OF ONE OF OUR DOWNTOWN SENIOR COMMUNITIES AS WELL. UM, SO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAD A VERY GOOD, UM, EVALUATION COMMITTEE THAT COULD LOOK AT THIS FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, POINTS OF VIEW. UM, WE ALSO HAD AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, MADE UP OF SOME TECHNICAL ADVISORS, UH, SUCH AS THE RIVER AUTHORITY, UM, SOME I T S D AS IT RELATES TO DATA, UM, AND VIA, AS WELL AS, UH, THE T C I DISABILITY, UM, OFFICE. UH, YOU MAY RECALL, I SHARED THIS WITH YOU BACK IN OCTOBER, THE FINAL EVALUATION OF THE FIVE, UM, COMPANIES THAT WE NARROWED DOWN TO. UM, SINCE THEN, UM, LYFT HAS WITHDRAWN [00:35:01] THEIR PROPOSAL. UM, SO THEY'RE NO LONGER, UM, AN APPLICANT IN THIS PROCESS, UM, WHICH MEANS THAT, UM, BIRD IS NOW, UM, COMING IN AT THIRD PLACE. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE AWARD CONTRACTS, UM, TO BIRD, LIME, AND RAZOR. JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE CONTRACT. THIS IS A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE OPTION FOR A ONE YEAR RENEWAL. UM, THAT'S AT, AT THE CITY'S OPTION. UM, WE THINK WE HAVE THREE EXPERIENCED OPERATORS, UM, TO OFFER THESE CONTRACTS TO. UM, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE COMPANIES IS THEY'RE ALL OFFERING, UM, NEWER GENERATION VEHICLES SPECIFICALLY. RAZOR HAS ALREADY LAUNCHED, UM, A SIT DOWN MODEL THAT'S, UM, ALREADY LAUNCHED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, THE INITIAL FLEET SIZE FOR EACH OF THE COMPANIES WILL BE A MAXIMUM OF 1000 VEHICLES PER COMPANY. UM, HOWEVER, IF THE NEED OR THE DEMAND, UM, IS THERE, THERE IS AN OPTION TO INCREASE, UM, THAT, UM, LEVEL OF, OF DEPLOYMENT. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S JUST A HIGHER DEMAND OR IF WE IDENTIFY, SAY, ANOTHER AREA OF TOWN WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME DEMAND, WE COULD ADD, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, PERMITS FOR THAT COMPANY OR ALL THE COMPANIES. UM, AND THEN FINALLY, IF, IF THERE WAS ANOTHER COMPANY OUT THERE, UM, THAT MAYBE BRINGS SOMETHING NEW AND INNOVATIVE TO THE MARKET THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, CURRENTLY SEEING, UM, WE WOULD'VE THE OPTION TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND MAYBE ADD ANOTHER VENDOR. UM, BUT BEFORE WE DID ANY OF THAT, WE WOULD, UM, GO BACK TO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UM, AND BRIEF THEM ON ANY OF THESE INCREASES. UH, AS FAR AS REVENUE AND PROGRAM COST, AGAIN, THIS IS A THREE YEAR CONTRACT. UM, YEAR ONE, UM, IS A, A SHORTER PERIOD. UM, SO THE REVENUE GENERATED WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN YEARS TWO AND THREE. UM, THIS INCLUDES REVENUE FROM A, A REVENUE SHARE. UM, SO IT'S 25 CENTS PER RIDE. UM, THERE'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE UPFRONT INFRASTRUCTURE FEE OF 25,000 PER COMPANY FOR A TOTAL OF 75,000 THAT FIRST YEAR. UM, AND THEN A $10 PER VEHICLE PERMIT FEE, UM, WHICH WOULD BE $30,000, UM, EACH YEAR. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE AS THE, UH, AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH YEARS THREE, WE'RE INCLUDING SOME GROWTH THERE. UM, AND THEN, UM, SO THE TOTALS WILL GO UP TO SIX, 631,000, UM, WHICH WILL COVER THE COST OF OUR EXPENSES, UM, WHICH INCLUDES A NEW COUPLE OF NEW POSITIONS. UM, WE'RE ADDING A SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST WHO WOULD PRIMARILY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING, UM, THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS, UM, UM, CONTRACT MONITORING FOR EACH OF THE COMPANIES. UM, AND THEN THREE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ADDED TO ADDRESS, UH, SOME OF THE ISSUES WE SEE DOWNTOWN AS FAR AS FALLEN VEHICLES OR, OR MAYBE MOVING VEHICLES OUT OF, UM, UM, BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK. UM, AND THEN, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, ACTUALLY OUT THERE MONITORING, MAKING SURE, UM, THAT THE COMPANIES ARE COMPLYING CONTRACTUALLY WITH, UH, UH, REQUIREMENTS. UH, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO ADD FUNDING FOR NINE HOURS OF S A P D ENFORCEMENT. SO THIS WOULD BE, UM, S A P D OFFICERS WHO ARE OUT THERE FOCUSING ON, UM, SCOOTER RIDING ENFORCEMENT. SOME OF THE KEY CONTRACT COMPONENTS INCLUDE GEOFENCING, WHICH WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UM, OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF. UM, RIDER SAFETY AND EDUCATION, AS WELL AS USER BEHAVIOR. UM, WE DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, THAT WE CONTINUE TO CAMPAIGN AND EDUCATE, UH, THE CITIZENS AS WELL AS VISITORS ABOUT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AS IT RELATES TO RIDING. UM, ALSO WE'LL INCLUDE SOME EQUITY PROGRAMS. UH, SO THIS WILL BE LOWER COST, UM, RENTAL OPTIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS. AND THEN FINALLY, UM, VERY IMPORTANTLY IS PARKING FRAMEWORK. UM, SO WE'LL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE COMPANIES TO DEVELOP THAT FRAMEWORK. JUST TO DIG INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE DETAIL ON GEO-FENCING. UM, SO BASICALLY, GEO-FENCING ALLOWS US TO, UM, CREATE AN AREA, UM, USING, UH, G I SS TO, UM, CONTROL, UH, BEHAVIOR OR ACTIVITY OF SCOOTERS IN CERTAIN AREAS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE'LL, UH, HAVE THE ABILITY TO SLOW VEHICLES DOWN IF THEY ENTER AN AREA, UM, THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN. SO IT'S REALLY A DETERRENT FOR SOMEONE TO RIDE IN AN AREA THAT'S PROHIBITED. UM, IT WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO ALERT AN INDIVIDUAL EITHER, UM, THROUGH THEIR PHONE OR, UM, THROUGH A, A SOUND, UM, COMING FROM THE VEHICLE, LEARNING AN INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY'RE IN, AN AREA THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN. UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT RELATES TO PARKING IN PROHIBITED AREAS. THE, UH, VEHICLES WILL NOT, UM, BE ALLOWED TO PARK IN A PROHIBITED AREA. UM, BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE, UM, INDIVIDUAL WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO END THEIR RIDE IN A PROHIBITED AREA. IT WOULD, UM, WHEN YOU FINISH YOUR RIDE, YOU HAVE TO CLOSE IT OUT ON THE APP, AND IT WOULD PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. IT WOULD LET SOMEONE KNOW YOU'RE IN A PROHIBITED AREA TO END YOUR SESSION. YOU NEED TO MOVE OUT OF THAT AREA. [00:40:01] UM, AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE TO STAY IN THAT AREA, WE'LL CONTINUE TO CHARGE THEM. UM, SO THERE IS A MONETARY, UM, PENALTY FOR STAYING IN THAT AREA, UH, TOO LONG. UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, THE, THE COMPANIES WILL SHOW THE PRO PROHIBITED AREAS IN THE ACTUAL, UM, APP. WE ALREADY HAVE IDENTIFIED PROHIBITED AREAS. SO THIS ALREADY IS WORKING AREAS SUCH AS THE RIVER WALK, UM, PARKS AND PLAZAS AND TRAILWAYS. UM, BUT IT'S NOT LIMITED TO THOSE. UH, AS TIME GOES ON, IF, IF WE START TO SEE PROBLEMS ARISE IN CERTAIN AREAS, WE CAN ALWAYS ADD, UM, MORE PROHIBITED AREAS ADMINISTRATIVELY. UM, AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS WE DO THAT DURING, UM, THE PARADES. UM, WE CREATE A TEMPORARY PROHIBITED ZONE, UM, IN THE FOOTPRINT OF SOME OF OUR PARADES, PARTICULARLY WHERE WE HAVE HIGH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, UM, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, DURING THE, UH, FIESTA PARADES. AND IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. UH, AS FAR AS RIDER SAFETY AND EDUCATION, THE OPERATORS CONTRACTUALLY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN, UM, EIGHT OR MORE COMMUNITY EVENTS ANNUALLY. SO THIS COULD BE A, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISTRIBUTE FREE HELMETS, AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE RIDERS ON SOME OF THE REGULATIONS, UM, HOW TO USE THE VEHICLES, UM, ORIENT, ORIENT THEMSELVES WITH IT, WITH THE HELP OF THE, UM, THE VENDORS. UM, CONTRACTUALLY, THEY WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE UP TO A MINIMUM OF 1500 FREE HELMETS ANNUALLY. UM, AND THAT COULD BE THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS SUCH AS THE, UM, THE HELMET GIVEAWAYS AT SOME OF THESE EDUCATION EVENTS OR JUST MADE AVAILABLE UPON, UM, REQUEST. WE'RE ALSO REQUIRING THAT THEY, UM, HAVE THE, THE, THE PRIMARY WRITING RULES ATTACHED TO THE VEHICLES, EITHER THROUGH A, UM, A PLACARD WITH THAT AS ATTACHED, UM, TO THE VEHICLE OR WITH A DECAL. UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UM, THAT THEY ALSO INCLUDE, UM, UM, UNI UNIFORM USER EDUCATION AND PENALTY STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON WITH THE COMPANIES. THIS BASICALLY WOULD BE A, UM, AN EV UM, ELEVATING, UM, PENALTY. UM, KIND OF A THREE STRIKES. YOU'RE OUT PROGRAM WHERE IF YOU'RE A FIRST, IF YOU'RE A FIRST, UM, MAYBE YOU PARKING CORRECTLY, YOU'LL BE GIVEN A WARNING. IF YOU DO IT AGAIN, THAT COULD BE FOLLOWED EITHER BY A, A PENALTY OR PERHAPS A TEMPORARY SUSPENSION. UM, AND THEN IF YOU CONTINUE TO DO IT, YOU COULD ACTUALLY LOSE ACCESS TO THE APP AND NO LONGER BE ABLE TO USE THE VEHICLES. UM, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMPANIES TO DEVELOP, UM, THAT PENALTY STRUCTURE. UM, BEFORE THE CONTRACTS ARE EXECUTED IN JANUARY, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UM, NOT ONLY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO KIND OF RESEARCHING AND, AND TRIAL AND ERROR, TRYING TO DEVELOP PARKING FRAMEWORK, BUT WE'VE ALSO BEEN LOOKING A LOT AT WHAT OTHER, UH, MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING IN RESPONSE TO PARKING ISSUES. UM, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A PARKING FRAMEWORK, UM, FOR HOW TO PARK, UH, THE VEHICLES. WE THINK THIS WILL HELP GREATLY WITH THE ISSUES RELATED TO BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS, UM, PARTICULARLY, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, A D A CROSS CROSSWALKS OR RAMPS, UM, SITUATIONS, UH, LIKE THAT, UM, WE ARE AMENDING OUR CODES. SO THE RESPONSE TIMES, UM, FOR EITHER A, UM, A BLOCKING AN 80 D A RAMP OR, OR, UM, THE CROSSWALK, UM, THE COMPANIES WILL HAVE, UM, AN HOUR TO RESPOND INSTEAD OF, UM, TWO HOURS. UM, WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS, IF A VEHICLE IS POSES A PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD, SAY IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, THAT VEHICLE WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY. UM, AND THERE ARE ALREADY PROVISIONS IN PLACE IN THE CODE TO ADDRESS WHEN THERE ARE OBSTRUCTIONS IN THE ROAD. SO THIS WOULD FALL, UM, UNDER THAT. SO WE WOULD WANT THOSE REMOVED. UM, OBVIOUSLY RIGHT AWAY. UH, WE WILL CONTINUE. UM, WE'VE TAUGHT A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMPANIES ABOUT PARKING FRAMEWORK, EXACTLY WHAT, UM, METHODS WORK BEST. UM, WE WILL DEFINITELY PURSUE MULTIPLE, UM, OPTIONS FOR ON-STREET PARKING. SO WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AREAS WHERE WE HAVE ON-STREET PARKING WHERE WE CAN REMOVE, UM, SOME PARKING SPACES, UM, AND CREATE, UM, CORRALS, IF YOU WILL. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE BOTTOM LEFT THERE, YOU CAN SEE AN EXAMPLE FROM ANOTHER CITY WHERE THEY CREATED A CORRAL. UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT, UM, MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING THAN THAT, BUT THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, WHAT WE COULD DO BY USING AN EXISTING ON-STREET PARKING SPACE. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED, UM, AN OPTION FOR A PARKING RACK. UM, THERE IS A COMPANY OUT THERE THAT IS PRODUCING A, A SCOOTER RACK. UM, SO WE WILL, UM, BE PURSUING THAT AND INSTALLING THOSE IN AREAS, UM, OF HIGH DEMAND, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, AROUND THE, UM, CONVENTION CENTER WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY THERE. UM, AND THEN WE WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO USE, UM, AREAS WHERE WE HAVE VERY WIDE SIDEWALKS OR VERY, UM, OPEN PUBLIC SPACE TO BE ABLE TO CREATE AN ON OR AN ON SIDEWALK OPTION, IF YOU WILL. UM, THAT, THAT, UM, LEAVES PLENTY OF ROOM, UM, FOR PEDESTRIANS, UM, USING SOME MARKINGS, UH, ON THE SIDEWALK. AND WE'LL ALSO USE SIGNAGE. UM, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE APP, UM, WORKING WITH THE COMPANIES TO ACTUALLY CREATE INCENTIVES FOR INDIVIDUALS TO PARK IN THESE AREAS AS WELL. [00:45:02] BLESS YOU. UM, AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE, UM, AGAIN, TO FOCUS ON EDUCATION AND MARKETING, UM, NOT JUST THE CITY, BUT ALSO THE COMPANIES, UM, IN PROVIDING MARKETING MATERIALS AND CAMPAIGNS, UH, RELATED TO EDUCATION, UM, AS, AS PROPER AS TO AS IT RELATES TO PROPER PARKING, UM, FOR INDIVIDUALS AND, AND KIND OF THE DO'S AND DON'TS. UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE COMPANIES DO ALL HAVE AN EQUITY, UM, PROGRAM. SO EACH OF THE OPERATORS CURRENTLY OFFERS A REDUCED RATE FOR LOW INCOME RESIDENTS. UM, AND THERE'S, UM, ALREADY STRUCTURES OR PROGRAMS IN PLACE WHERE INDIVIDUALS CAN APPLY AND QUALIFY, UM, THROUGH OTHER PROGRAMS. UM, SO BASICALLY IF YOU QUALIFY IN ANOTHER PROGRAM, UM, YOU WOULD QUALIFY FOR THESE LOWER RATES, UM, FOR THE, UH, SCOOTERS. AND YOU CAN SEE EACH OF THE COMPANIES HAS SOME, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT STRUCTURE, UM, BUT THEY DO ALL OFFER REDUCED RATES FOR LOW INCOME RESIDENTS. UH, AT THE LAST, UH, B SESSION, YOU ALL HAD ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, KIND OF WHERE THE COMPANIES ARE, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. UM, SO LIME, UM, IS IN DISTRICT 10, UM, RAZOR'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH, UM, DOWN IN DISTRICT, UM, THREE I BELIEVE. UH, DISTRICT TWO, SORRY. AND THEN BIRD IS IN, UM, DISTRICT FIVE. UH, AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS GO, UH, THE COMPANIES, UM, ARE WORKING ON THE TECHNOLOGY THAT GIVES, UM, THEM THE OPTION OR THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHEN A VEHICLE IS TIPPED OR WHEN A VEHICLE FALLS SIMILAR TO THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S IN YOUR PHONE. UM, THE, THE SCOOTERS WILL ACTUALLY SEND AN ALERT TO THE COMPANY LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THAT SCOOTER HAS FALLEN OVER, UM, AND THE COMPANIES CAN DEPLOY THEIR TEAMS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WHEN THAT HAPPENS. UM, THE COMPANIES WILL ALSO COMPLETE FIELD-BASED INSPECTIONS SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK. UH, SO BASICALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY HAVE A TEAM, UH, OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE OUT THERE, UM, KIND OF POLICING THEMSELVES, MAKING SURE THAT VEHICLES ARE IN OPERATING ORDER, UM, THEY'RE IN GOOD CONDITION, THEY'RE PARKED CORRECTLY. UH, THEY ALSO HAVE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE PLANS. UM, SO THERE'S CERTAIN SCHEDULES WHEN THE SCOOTERS ARE REQUIRED TO COME IN FOR MAINTENANCE. UM, NOT, NOT JUST WHEN THEY'RE REPORTED, BUT IF THEY'VE BEEN ON THE STREET FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. UM, THEY DO BRING THEM IN, KIND OF CHECK THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS FUNCTIONAL AND OPERATING, UM, CORRECTLY. UM, I MENTIONED, UM, EARLIER A PENALTY STRUCTURE FOR RIDERS. THERE'S ALSO A PENALTY STRUCTURE THAT, UM, WILL BE IN PLACE IF THE COMPANIES, UM, REPEATEDLY FAIL TO CORRECT VIOLATIONS. UM, WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT IN THE FIRST QUARTER, AND THAT WILL GO INTO, IN EFFECT, UH, IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2020. UM, WE WILL USE THIS FIRST QUARTER COMING UP, UM, BASICALLY TO KIND OF BENCHMARK, UM, SOME OF THE DATA, ALLOW THE COMPANIES TO TRAIN THEIR INDIVIDUALS ON THE NEW RULES, UM, AND THEN ALSO WORK, UM, WITH 3 1 1, UM, ON SOME OF THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THAT. SO THE 3 1 1, UM, APP CAN DIRECTLY, UM, COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMPANY SO THEY CAN CLOSE OUT, UM, VIOLATIONS, UM, QUICKER. UH, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, THEY ARE REQUIRED AS A, AS SEEN ON THERE. THEY ALREADY HAVE IT. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A LOCAL OPERATIONS CENTER AND A LOCAL TEAM, UM, TO BE RESPONSIVE TO ANY CONCERNS, UH, OR QUESTIONS FROM US. UH, 3 1 1 REPORTING HAS BEEN A VALUABLE TOOL. UM, IT'S BEEN VERY POPULAR. I'VE REPORTED IN THE PAST, UM, THAT, UM, WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF ACTIVITY ON IT. UM, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 6,095, UM, VIOLATIONS REPORTED TO 3 1 1. UM, ABOUT HALF OF THOSE ARE, ARE INDIVIDUALS USING THE APP. SO IT IS WORKING, IT'S A GOOD TOOL. UH, WE WILL WORK WITH PAULA AND HER TEAM TO REFINE, UM, SOME OF THE CATEGORIES. UH, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A LARGE, UM, NUMBER THAT ARE, UM, CHOOSING THE OTHER CATEGORY. UM, SO WE ARE WORKING WITH PAULA TO DETERMINE WHAT, WHAT ARE THOSE REALLY, AND COULD SOME OF THOSE HAVE FIT MAYBE INTO ONE OF THE EXISTING CATEGORIES, OR DO WE NEED TO CREATE MORE CATEGORIES, UM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LARGE, UM, NUMBER OF, OF INDIVIDUALS, UM, REPORTING VIOLATIONS AS OTHER, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT, UM, THE PROBLEM IS. UM, SO WHAT, WHAT WE'LL, PAULA AND THE, UH, COMPANIES TO KIND OF REFINE THIS, UM, THESE CATEGORIES. JUST A LITTLE UPDATE, UM, THE CURRENT OPERATORS, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT JUMP WITHDREW, UM, LAST SUMMER. LYFT HAS WITHDRAWN, UM, FROM THE CITY, SO THEY'RE NO LONGER OPERATING THE CITY. UM, AND SO WE, UM, ARE, ARE HAVE LESS VEHICLES OUT ON THE, UM, ROAD RIGHT NOW. UM, UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RIDES PER MONTH, UM, CONTINUE TO LESSEN. UM, WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 82,000, UM, IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER. WE DO KNOW THAT THE KIND OF MID FALL IS A RELATIVELY SLOWER TIME PERIOD, UM, AND EXPECT THAT TO PICK UP [00:50:01] AGAIN IN THE SPRING, UM, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IT, UH, DID LAST YEAR AS WELL. UM, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES DEPLOYED IS DOWN TO ABOUT 2,600. SO THAT'S JUST BELOW, UM, OUR RECOMMENDED MAXIMUM OF 3000. SO WE THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD, UM, POSITION. UM, HAVING A MAXIMUM OF 3000 VEHICLES DEPLOYED. UH, ACCIDENTS AND ENFORCEMENT ARE, ARE TRENDING DOWNWARD. UM, PART OF THAT I THINK IS DUE TO JUST THE FACT THAT THERE'S LESS PEOPLE OUT THERE RIDING 'EM. BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE IS THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RIDING THEM ARE, ARE, UM, ARE MORE FREQUENT USERS PERHAPS. UM, AND SO THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE, A LITTLE BIT MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE, UM, SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY OUT THERE, UM, RIDING SAFER AS WELL. UM, THAT, AND WE HAVE SEEN VEHICLE IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. UM, THINGS SUCH AS LARGER TIRES, UM, I THINK GO A LONG WAY TO PREVENT SOME OF THE ACCIDENTS THAT WE WERE SEEING. WITH THAT IN MIND, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE LIFT THE NIGHTTIME RIDING CURFEW. UM, AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE DID IMPOSE BACK IN, UM, FEBRUARY A NIGHTTIME RIDING CURFEW. SO INDIVIDUALS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO RIDE BETWEEN 11, UM, AT NIGHT AND 6:00 AM IN THE MORNING. WE'VE HEARD A LOT, UM, FROM, UM, SOME OF THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES, AS WELL AS SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT, UM, IT REALLY PREVENTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME THIRD PARTY SHIFT WORKERS, UM, TO HAVE THAT OPTION FOR TRANSPORTATION, UM, PERHAPS WHEN THEIR SHIFT ENDS AT AT NIGHT. UM, WE, UH, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS MONITOR ACCIDENTS OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. UM, NOW THAT WE ARE ENTERING INTO CONTRACT WITH THREE COMPANIES, WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE DATA THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT. WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, UM, UM, HOW PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY USING THEM AT THESE TIME PERIODS, WHERE THEY'RE GOING, WHEN THEY'RE USING THEM, HOW LONG THEY'RE RIDING 'EM. UM, SO WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF, OF HOW THEY'RE BEING USED. UH, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK, UM, IN SIX MONTHS TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND PROVIDE IT, PROVIDE AN UPDATE, UM, AND A RECOMMENDATION, UM, AS WHETHER TO, UM, REINSTATE THAT CURFEW OR JUST, UM, LIFT IT PERMANENTLY. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY, UH, PRESENTATION. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, JOHN. UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION, WE DO HAVE ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM FOUR. CALL HIM NOW. JACK FINGER. WELL, MAYOR NURENBERG, OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M FINGER. THE SCOOTERS THAT WE IMPLEMENTED LAST YEAR HAD GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT, UH, THEY ARE, THEIR PROBLEMS HAVE MANIFESTED EVER SINCE THAT POINT. AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PUT A FEW BANDAIDS ON IT EVER SINCE WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED, THE IDEA IS WHY ARE WE HAVING SCOOTERS HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, OR FOR THAT MATTER, ANYWHERE, YOUR RESPONSE WAS, WELL, WE WANT TO TRY AND REDUCE THE AIR POLLUTION THAT WOULD BE CREATED THAT HAD SUCH PERSONS USED IT FOR THEIR, UM, TRAVELING ON, UH, MOTORCYCLES OR AUTOMOBILES OR WHATEVER THERE, THERE, BUT EVERYONE FAIL, FAILED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW MUCH AIR POLLUTION IS CREATED. AND THE MANUFACTURER OF THE BATTERIES, MS. VIA GRAHAM, THE BATTERIES OF, OF, OF THE, THESE MACHINES ALONG WITH THE MACHINES THEMSELVES AND THEIR PRODUCTION, EVERYBODY FORGETS THAT YOU ALSO WANTED TO HELP PEOPLE GET AROUND EASIER, BUT YOU FORGOT THE HUMAN ELEMENTS IN THIS WHOLE THING. YEAH. THINGS LIKE, UH, WELL, LIKE, I LIKE BICYCLISTS AND OTHERS. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A SCOOTER, SCOOTER PER PERSON RIDING A SCOOTER, RUNNING THROUGH A RED LIGHT AND GETTING TICKETED FOR IT? I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT. IN FACT, UH, I NOTICED THAT WE HAVE AS MANY AS, WHAT IS IT? TWO, TWO 2000, 3000 VIOLATIONS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE GOTTEN TICKETED FOR WARNING TICKETS AND SO FORTH. YEAH. THE, UH, ALSO, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH THE OTHER BIG PROBLEM THAT'S MENTIONED, THE, THE FACT THAT THEY'VE BEEN LITTERED UPON THE SIDEWALK. PEOPLE, PEDESTRIANS TRY TRYING TO GET THROUGH A SIDEWALK, HAVING TO AVOID 'EM, EITHER TRIPPING OVER THEM OR WHATEVER. THEY'RE, UH, THAT'S HOW MANY WERE THERE WERE, AND I'M GLAD YOU SEE YOU'RE TRYING TO REDUCE IT TODAY. BUT THE FACT REMAINS, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THOSE PERSONS WHO FAILED TO PARK THEIR SCOOTERS IN THE RIGHT PLACE, IF AT ALL? [00:55:01] AND YOU STILL ALL ALONG WITH THAT, THE FACT THAT THE SCOOTERS STILL INITIALLY RAN AS FAST AS 35 MILES AN HOUR, 35 MILES AN HOUR ON THE SIDEWALK. YES. I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU'RE GETTING IT OFF THE SIDEWALK. BUT , NO. HOW MANY KIDS DO YOU STILL SEE RIDING THAT AND NOT GETTING REPRIMANDED FOR THAT? HUH? THE, BUT, UH, I NOTICED YOU, YOU HAVEN'T, OH, YOU DIDN'T FORGET TO PUT THE WELFARE PROGRAM IN HERE BY GUY, THOSE WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT, BUT YOU GOT SOME REDUCED PRICESS FOR YOU. THANK YOU, MR. FINGER. WE, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, JOHN, I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS. I KNOW IT WAS A BIG UNDERTAKING AND I, I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED IN THIS PRESENTATION A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT MANY OF US HAD, UH, BROUGHT BEFORE US BY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I'M PARTICULARLY THANKFUL TO HEAR THAT ALL, ALL THREE, UH, PARTICIPANTS AGREED TO PUT AN INSTRUCTION CARD, SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE WITH ALL OF THE RULES THAT THEY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE RIDING ON THOSE SCOOTERS, UH, RIGHT THERE, FRONT AND CENTER. RIGHT? I THINK THAT'LL HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING. RIGHT. UH, ONE THING THAT I DIDN'T SEE IN HERE THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR AND SEEN QUITE A BIT IS WHEN, WHEN WE LOOK AT AN EVALUATION, A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE TWO EVALUATIONS. THERE'S AN ORIGINAL ONE, AND THEN IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, REEVALUATED. UH, AND I, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I HAD A COMPANY COME TO ME AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY OUR SECOND EVALUATION WAS SO MUCH LOWER THAN OUR FIRST, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE SEEN OR WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IS, SO WE CAN SEE BOTH EVALUATIONS SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND OR ASK A QUESTION, WHY IS C SO MUCH LOWER THAN IT WAS THE FIRST EVALUATION? SO I WAS SORRY TO SEE THAT WASN'T IN THERE. AND I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER WHEN WE GO TO EITHER, UH, THE AUDIT AND, AND CONTRACT COMMITTEE OR ANY OF THE PRESENTATION IN A B SESSION OR SOMETHING. SURE. I DID INCLUDE THOSE IN THE B SESSION PRESENTATION. I DO HAVE IT AS A BACKUP IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT. WELL, I APPRECIATE IF YOU JUST SEND IT TO ME. OKAY, SURE. AND MAYBE ALL THE OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE. OKAY. AND, AND I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE FINAL RESULTS, BUT I THINK UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS HELPS A LITTLE BIT MORE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ONE OF THE ESTIMATES YOU HAVE ON YOUR REVENUE IS, UH, REVENUE SHARE. CAN YOU BREAK THAT DOWN AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE COMPONENTS TO THAT AND HOW THAT WAS ESTIMATED? IT'S ON SLIDE NUMBER SIX, I BELIEVE. SURE. UH, SURE. SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS, UM, BASICALLY THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF, UM, OF RIDE DATA. SO HOW, HOW MANY RIDES, UM, PER MONTH OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT STARTED TO TREND DOWN A LITTLE BIT. UM, SO WE USED, UM, THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION ON WHAT THE AVERAGE, UM, MONTHLY RIDERSHIP, UM, WOULD BE. UM, AND SO THAT, UM, WAS HOW WE CALCULATED THE REVENUE SHARE. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO ASSUMED BASICALLY A 3% GROWTH, UM, OVER THE, OVER THE THREE YEARS. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, THE PER VEHICLE FEE IS A SET FEE. UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO ASSUMING, AND THE COMPANIES HAVE TOLD US THAT THEY WILL APPLY FOR A THOUSAND VEHICLES EACH. UM, SO THAT'S AT, UM, $10 A VEHICLE. UM, AND THEN, AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FEE AS WELL, 25,000, UM, PER COMPANY. HOW IS THE ACTUAL REVENUE SHARE CALCULATED? IS IT A CERTAIN AMOUNT PER USAGE? IT'S, YES, IT IS. I'M SORRY. IT'S 25 CENTS PER RIDE. SO THE, FOR EVERY RIDE, UM, THE COMPANY WILL, UM, PROVIDE US 25 CENTS. SO WE WERE LOOKING AT 16, 160,000 RIDES OR SOMETHING. UH, WE'RE ESTIMATING THE, UH, ABOUT 141,000 RIDES PER MONTH. SO THAT'S THE AVERAGE. NOW, OF COURSE, IF THERE ARE MORE RIDERS, THEN IT WOULD INCREASE, RIGHT? WE COULD TO THE CITY COULD HAVE MORE. RIGHT? WE, IF, UH, IF THERE'S MORE RIDES, SAY IF WE HAVE A, A VERY, UM, MILD SPRING, MAYBE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF EVENTS IN TOWN, A LOT OF PEOPLE RIDING SCOOTERS, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE REVENUE COULD BE EVEN MORE THAN THAT. SURE. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THE, UH, PROGRAM EXPENSES, WHAT WERE THE EXPENSES FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR? UH, THE CURRENT YEAR? UM, I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT FIGURED WITH YOU, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, HOW WE SPENT THAT MONEY. UM, WE, UH, BASICALLY HAD FOUR TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES, UH, THAT WERE OUT THERE DOING SCOOTER CORRECTIONS. UM, THEY WERE NOT PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, THEY WERE ACTUALLY TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES, UM, PRIMARILY RELOCATING VEHICLES IF THERE WAS A VIOLATION. UM, WE ALSO [01:00:01] USED, UH, SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS, UH, FOR EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS. UM, WE HAD SOME PRINT MATERIALS THAT WE DID. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE DECALS ON THE SIDEWALKS. UM, SOME OF THE, UM, PARKING, UM, PLACES THAT WE CREATED, UM, WAS USED WITH THAT FUND. WE PAID SOME OVERTIME TO SS A P D TO DO ENFORCEMENT THAT STARTED LAST, UM, JANUARY. UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS LEFT IN THAT, THAT WE'LL, UM, USE, UM, THIS YEAR AS WELL. UM, SO WE HAD ABOUT, UH, 154,000 EXPENSES. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, SORRY. OKAY. SO OVERSTATE FOR, FOR THE LIFE OF THAT PILOT. SO IT WAS ABOUT A, UM, THAT WAS DURING THE SIX MONTH PILOT, UM, BUT A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 'CAUSE UH, WE STARTED THE APPLICATION PROCESS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT. OKAY. HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THE EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE 428,000 OR 429,000. SO THAT'S BASED ON THE SALARIES OF THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYSTS, THE FOUR OR, UM, THE THREE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, AS WELL AS THE FUNDING FOR THE, UM, THE SHIFTS FOR SS A P D, UM, AND THEN THE, UM, 55,000 FOR RIDER EDUCATION. UM, AND THEN WE PLAN TO USE THE 75,000 FOR PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY. WELL, IF WE FIND, UH, OUR REVENUE DOESN'T MEET, UH, OUR COST EXPECTATIONS FOR WHATEVER REASON. SURE. UH, IS THERE ANY WAY IN THE CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE WORKING OUT FOR US TO RECUPERATE ANY COSTS THAT EXCEED WHAT WE EXPECT? ESPECIALLY IF INCOME IS LESS THAN WE EXPECT? UH, BASICALLY WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL ADJUST, UM, OUR, UM, OUR STAFF. UM, RIGHT NOW I HAVE A, A, UM, A, I WOULDN'T SAY WHETHER LARGE, BUT I HAVE A, A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OUT THERE ALREADY TODAY. UM, IT'S ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE WE SEE SOME TURNOVER. UM, SO IN THE EVENT THAT WE JUST, WE DETERMINE THAT WE REALLY ONLY NEED TWO PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WORKING ON SCOOTERS. UM, I PROBABLY SHIFT ONE OF THOSE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS INTO A VACANT POSITION, UM, TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE VEHICLE, UM, PARKING ENFORCEMENT. OKAY. AND WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS AS WELL. UM, THE BENEFIT OF THIS BEING A SHORT TERM CONTRACT ALSO, UM, WE HAVE A, A JUST A TWO YEARS BASICALLY, UM, TO WORK WITH. SO, UM, WE CAN MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, I THINK, IN THAT SHORT TERM. UM, IF WE SEE THAT REVENUES HAVE FALLEN THAT MUCH, THEN WE HAVE THAT OPTION IN YEAR THREE, UM, TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE, TO THE CONTRACTS. OKAY. AND DO WE HAVE THE KINDS OF CLAUSES IN THAT CONTRACT THAT IF FOR SOME REASON A COMPANY IS NOT FULFILLING ITS OBLIGATIONS OR THE, UH, PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT, UH, IT CAN BE TERMINATED? OR DO THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF, UH, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL IF WE FIND THESE PROBLEMS GOING ON? UH, YES SIR. LIKE A LOT OF OUR CONTRACTS, UM, THEIR, THEIR FIRST OPTION IS TO CURE THE PROBLEM. SO WE'LL NOTIFY THEM OF ANY VIOLATIONS AND THEY, UM, OBVIOUSLY WILL, WE CAN CORRECT THOSE, UM, IF THAT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN. UM, THEN THERE'S SOME PENALTIES, SOME MONETARY PENALTIES THAT WE CAN, BASICALLY, FINES THAT WE CAN, UM, PURSUE. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, IF THEY CONTINUE TO, TO NOT COMPLY, THEN WE COULD UNDER THE CONTRACT, TERMINATE THE CONTRACT. DO THEY HAVE AN APPEAL PROCESS, UH, IF YOU TERMINATE THEM? I'M NOT, I DON'T THINK SO. NO, SIR. OKAY. UH, ANOTHER CONCERN WE'VE HAD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MENTIONED IT AND I MISSED IT, WAS ABOUT THE INSURANCE RESPONSIBILITY. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE CITY'S LIABILITY OR WHAT'S THE CITY'S PROTECTION IN THE AREA OF, UH, INJURIES, UH, AND CLAIMS THAT ARE MADE DUE TO INJURIES WHILE PEOPLE ARE OPERATING VEHICLES? UH, YOU KNOW, OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY, UM, REALLY SINCE DAY ONE, UM, ON THIS ISSUE. UM, THEY FEEL THAT WE'RE, OR THE CITY IS IN A GOOD LEGAL PLACE. I DON'T KNOW IF ED WANTS TO ADD A LITTLE GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMAN. UM, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, UH, WE HAVE STANDARD INDEMNIFICATION LANGUAGE AS WELL AS INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH OF THE OPERATORS. SO THE CITY IS VERY WELL PROTECTED WITHIN THE AGREEMENT. AND AS JOHN SAID, GOING BACK TO THE LAST QUESTION, WE HAVE ESCALATING PENALTY PROVISIONS AND THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE A CONTRACT UP TO AND INCLUDING TERMINATION IF POSSIBLE. SO, UH, WE, WE'VE BUILT IN A PRETTY ROBUST SYSTEM WITHIN THE CONTRACT. YOU HAD ANY CLAIMS FILED AGAINST US THUS FAR? I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS ONE, UH, LAWSUIT THAT INVOLVED, UH, SOMEBODY THAT RAN OVER A POTHOLE, BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY INVOLVE, TRULY INVOLVE OPERATION OF THE SCOOTER. IT'S MORE OF A STANDARD SORT OF, YOU HAVE THAT WITH BICYCLES AND PEOPLE WALKING OVER COBBLESTONE. SO THAT'S JUST MORE OF A STANDARD THING, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, JOHN, I THINK THIS IS ONE LAST QUESTION I HAVE. UH, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EQUITY, AND MAYBE THIS [01:05:01] IS SOMETHING WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT, BUT ARE THERE ANY MECHANISMS FOR CONSUMERS WHO DON'T HAVE MOBILE PHONES TO BE ABLE TO, UH, OBTAIN THE RIGHT TO USE ONE OF THESE VEHICLES? UH, THERE ARE THAT, UM, THAT QUESTION CAME UP A LOT DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, 'CAUSE THAT WAS THE CONCERN OF SEVERAL OF THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS. AND YES. UM, ALL OF THE COMPANIES, UM, HAVE OTHER ALTERNATIVES, UM, TO, UH, BE ABLE TO USE THE VEHICLE. SAY, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PHONE, UM, THEY WILL, UM, SOMETIMES THEY'LL PROVIDE A CARD, UH, THAT YOU CAN USE, UH, TO UNLOCK THE VEHICLE INSTEAD OF A, A, A PHONE. SO IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE OR AS EASY AS USING THE PHONE. UM, BUT YOU CAN CONTACT THE COMPANY, UM, AND THEY CAN PROVIDE YOU THE ABILITY TO ACCESS, UM, A VEHICLE WITHOUT A SMARTPHONE. WOULD IT BE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A SMARTPHONE, THEY CAN GIVE $20 AND GET A CARD WORTH $20 THAT THEY COULD USE WHEN THEY, UNTIL IT RUNS OUT? YES. THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. YES. IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN. CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'VE DONE. AND I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THANKS JOHN FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I WANNA THANK, UH, LORI HOUSTON AS WELL, UH, THE ENTIRE C C D O TEAM, UH, ESPECIALLY AURORA PORT PERKINS. UH, SHE, SHE DID DRIVE AROUND WITH MY STAFF TO, TO GO, UH, LOOK AT, UH, DOWNTOWN NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS TO LOOK FOR EXAMPLES OF RESIDUAL SPACES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT WE CAN CREATE SOME OF THESE SCOOTER PARKING AREAS. SO, UH, AND SO CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? 'CAUSE I, I WANT, I WANT US TO BE REALLY CLEAR THAT THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. THIS IS NOT REALLY LIMITING WHERE PEOPLE CAN, CAN, CAN MOVE. I MEAN, THEY ARE DOCKLESS VEHICLES. THE IDEA WAS TO, TO PROVIDE THESE SPACES, BUT TO NOT TAKE OVER NECESSARY, UH, ACCESSIBILITY OF FOLKS, RIGHT. AND, AND PROVIDE A LEVEL OF SAFETY FOR EVERYBODY. UH, YEAH. SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PRIMARY AREAS I THINK THAT WE LOOK FOR, UM, UM, WHEN LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO, TO CREATE A SCOOTER, UM, PARKING AREA. UM, AND ONE OF THE MOST OBVIOUS IS OUR ON STREET PARKING SPACES. UM, WE ARE, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THOSE AREAS, UM, WHERE WE HAVE ON STREET PARKING, UM, WHERE WE COULD PLACE THE, THE, THE, UM, PARKING CORRALS. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE WORKING ON KIND OF THE DESIGN, UM, WORKING WITH THE T C I TEAM. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE, UM, BUT ALSO FUNCTIONAL. UM, AND, AND WE'RE DOWN TO THE DETAIL NOW OF IN, IN A ONE BLOCK AREA. IS IT BETTER TO HAVE THE CORRAL ON THE, ON THE ONE END OF THE PARKING AREA OR ON THE, ON THE BEGINNING END OF IT? SO, UM, WE THINK THOSE ARE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES. UM, THEY PROVIDE A, A, A PRETTY ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF ROOM, UM, PARTICULARLY IN AN AREA WHERE MAYBE IT'S MORE POPULAR, UM, AS OF, OF A DESTINATION THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE. YOUR RACKS AND I, AND I, I WOULD COMPARE THOSE TWO TO BIKE RACKS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR, UM, EXCEPT THAT, UM, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY JUST DESIGNED DIFFERENT. SO THEY, THEY BASICALLY HOLD THE HANDLEBARS OF THE, UM, OF THE SCOOTER, UM, TO PREVENT IT FROM FALLING OVER. UM, SO IT'LL COME IN, UM, VERY HANDY. UM, WHEN THERE'S SOME OF THE WINDY DAYS THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN WHEN THEY BLOW OVER, THIS WILL PREVENT THEM MANY ISSUES. JUST HOW SOMETIMES THEY, THEY JUST TIP OVER AND THEN THEY LOOK LIKE THEY WERE JUST THROWN THERE, ALMOST LIKE A PILE OF, OF JUNK. YEAH. I, I THINK WE'LL LOOK AT VERY STRATEGICALLY OF AREAS, UM, PERHAPS WHERE THERE'S, WHERE IT'S A NARROWER AREA WHERE WHEN A VEHICLE DOES FALL, IT, IT POSES MORE OF AN ISSUE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR A LOCATION TO HAVE A RACK, UM, TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. I WILL SAY, I, I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE SCOOTER RACKS THAT DO NOT, DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY UP AS, AS HIGH AS THE HANDLEBARS TO, TO HOLD 'EM STEADY. SO I HOPE WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE. YEAH, WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DESIGNS. ONE, THE NEWEST ONE WE'VE SEEN IS IT'S, IT HOLDS IT UP AT THE HANDLEBAR LEVEL. UM, OTHERS ARE DOWN KIND OF NEAR THE WHEELS. SO WE'RE, WE'LL LOOK AT BOTH. SOMETHING WILL BE BETTER THAN, THAN NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT. SO, UH, AGAIN, YEAH, THANK YOU. AND I ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO ALSO THANK, UH, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, AND SPECIFICALLY THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU ALLOWED US TO, TO NOMINATE, UH, A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT, MS. MARYANNE MILLER OF GRANADA HOMES. AND WE, WE WENT OVER THERE, UM, SEVERAL TIMES TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS, UH, ABOUT, ABOUT SAFETY AND SOME, SOME OF THE FACT, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE SENIORS IN THOSE AREAS, IN THOSE, ON THOSE SIDEWALKS, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH ALREADY, UH, SOME DIFFICULT CHALLENGES TO, TO PEDESTRIANS, ESPECIALLY YOUR SENIORS. UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK HAVING, HAVING SOMEBODY LIKE MARYANNE MILLER ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE WAS, WAS VALUABLE AS WELL AS OF COURSE, UH, CHERISE, UH, ROYAL GRINNY OF LAVACCA NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, LISA LIND OF, UH, KING WILLIAM. LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT PERSPECTIVE AND HOW THAT HELPED TO SORT OF DRIVE SOME OF THE FRAMEWORK, UH, FROM DOWNTOWN TO [01:10:01] HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND WHAT THIS MEANS IN TERMS OF THIS FRAMEWORK. YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, RIS IN PARTICULAR WAS GOOD BECAUSE SHE ALSO RIDES THEM A LOT. UM, SO WE HAD HER PERSPECTIVE AS A RIDER, UM, AS WELL AS A RESIDENT OF AN AREA THAT WAS IMPACTED. UM, AND IT WAS, IT WAS HELPFUL TO HAVE THEIR INSIGHT BECAUSE THE, THE STREET INFRASTRUCTURE, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THERE THAN IT IS IN THE CORE OF DOWNTOWN. UM, AND SO WHAT WE WERE SEEING WAS SOME DIFFERENT ISSUES, UM, AS IT RELATES TO A RESIDENT IN THAT AREA VERSUS, UM, A EITHER OFFICE WORKER OR MAYBE A RESIDENT OR A VISITOR TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO IT WAS GOOD TO HAVE, UM, SOME PERSPECTIVE, UM, OF SOME OF SOME RE RESIDENTS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE 24 HOURS, UM, IN THE AREA AND ARE SEEING IT, UM, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT EYES THAN WHAT WE SEE IT THROUGH, PERHAPS AS, AS SOMEONE WHO'S WORKING DOWNTOWN. AND OF COURSE, I, I THINK, UH, THE DEPLOYMENT OR THE REDUCTION OF THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE SCOOTERS DOWN TO 3000, I THINK WILL, WILL, WILL SERVE THE NEED OF OUR, OF OUR CITY. AND, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK HELPED TO IMPACT THE AMOUNT OF CLUTTER THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY. AND, AND THIS WAS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE, WITH THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES? IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. UH, SEVERAL OF THE COMPANIES DURING THE, UM, INTERVIEW PROCESS ACTUALLY PROPOSED, UM, THAT THEY WOULD, UM, RECOMMEND DEPLOYING LESS VEHICLES THAN THE ORIGINAL, UM, 5,000 THAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING. UM, AND ALL THREE COMPANIES, UM, HAVE AGREED, UH, TO THE MAXIMUM OF 1000 VEHICLES. AND THAT'S GREAT. AND I THINK IT IS SHOWING THAT THIS FRAMEWORK IS CREATING A PARTNERSHIP ALREADY THAT THAT CAN BENEFIT ALL OF US. AND, UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT PROVIDING, UH, TOO MUCH, TOO MUCH. OF COURSE, DOWNTOWN EXPERIENCE, THE BRUNT OF IT WITH, WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF, OF, OF SCOOTERS JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE. AND THAT IN MANY CASES, THEY JUST PILED UP. YES. YEAH. SO, UM, I DO WANT TO SAY I, SPEAKING OF IT, THIS PARTNERSHIP, LOOK, YOU KNOW, I, I WANNA MAKE A A A POINT THAT, UH, WE HOPE THAT USING THIS TRIP DATA CAN HELP US PLAN BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. AND I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A PLUG FOR OUR PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY OFFICER AND FREQUENT BIKE RIDER, TIM HAYES, TO, TO STAY INVOLVED AND, AND HELP US, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH SOME OF THIS INNOVATION WITH PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. UH, WE'LL BE, WILL WE BE PLANNING TO, TO INCLUDE TIM HAYES IN ANY OF THESE DISCUSSIONS? UH, YES. AND AS, AS WELL AS, UM, OTHER MEMBERS OF T C I. AND SO WORKING WITH, WITH ART AND HIS TEAM, UM, AND TIM, UM, AND THEN ON, ON THE DATA SIDE WITH CRAIG HOPKINS FROM IT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET GOOD DATA, UM, FREQUENT DATA THAT WE CAN GO IN AND THEY CAN USE, UM, AS A, AS A TOOL TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. WE CAN SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE RIDING WHEN THEY'RE RIDING, HOW FAR ARE THEY RIDING. UM, I THINK IT'LL BE A GREAT, UH, TOOL FOR THEM. SPEAKING OF DATA, I, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS A LOT. I, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UH, SCOOTERS ON THE THREE ONE ONES A APP. I THINK THAT PROVED TO BE A HUGE SUCCESS. WE'LL BE UPDATING THE THREE ONE ONES A APP, RIGHT? SO I'LL WORK WITH PAULA. UM, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE, WE'RE NARROWING IT DOWN TO THREE OPERATORS. WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH PAULA AND AS WELL AS THE, UH, THREE OPERATORS. UM, REALLY TO WORK ON REFINING THAT, THAT APP. I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONFUSION. UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GETTING SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE, ARE REPORTING VIOLATIONS AS OTHER, UM, I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT OTHER IS, WHAT ARE THOSE OTHER VIOLATIONS OR CONCERNS THAT THEY MAY HAVE? UM, IS IT JUST COMPLAINTS THAT MAYBE SOMEONE JUST DOESN'T LIKE IT AND THEY'RE USING THE APP TO REPORT THAT? AND MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE A, A CATEGORY FOR THAT, FOR EXAMPLE. SO WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING GOOD INFORMATION INPUTTED FROM THE USER, AND THEN WE CAN GET THAT OUT, UM, TO THE COMPANIES TO FIX THOSE PROBLEMS. YEAH, AND I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR THIS COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT THAT OTHER IS, BECAUSE IT, IT CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY WOULD HIGHLIGHT WHAT, WHAT SHOULD BE LABELED AS PART OF THE TAB THERE. WE WANT MORE PEOPLE TO USE 3 1 1, BUT SPECIFICALLY THREE ONES SA APP, BECAUSE IT, IT'S, IT'S PROVEN TO BE A, AN INCREDIBLE TOOL. IN FACT, WHEN WE FIRST ROLLED IT OUT LAST YEAR, UH, I THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST, UH, UM, INPUTTED ITEMS, UH, IN THE THREE OH ONES A APP. SO I HOPE TO SEE MORE OF THAT IN THE FUTURE. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, LIFTING THE NIGHTTIME BAN, I WILL SAY, I MEAN, I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT IN THAT I THINK WE'VE SHOWN THAT WE, WE'VE GOT A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH THESE COMPANIES. WE'VE GOT A GOOD, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SCOOTER SAFETY AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OVERALL SAFETY OF, OF, OF EVERYONE IS, IS, IS HELD, UH, IS AS A PRIORITY FOR US. AND, UH, SO HOW WILL WE MONITOR THAT? HOW WILL WE MONITOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE USE AT, AT, AT NIGHTTIME? SURE. WELL, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE, WITH THE DATA THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, UM, WHEN RIDES ARE [01:15:01] STARTING AND STOPPING, WHAT TIME ARE THEY STARTING? WHERE ARE THEY GOING? UM, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL FROM THAT DATA IF IT TRULY IS A THIRD SHIFT WORKER WHO'S MAYBE USING THE SCOOTER. UM, MAYBE WHEN THEY COME DOWN FOR THEIR SHIFT, THEY MAY PARK AT ONE OF OUR LOWER COST PARKING AREAS ON THE EDGE OF DOWNTOWN, AND THEN USE THE SCOOTER TO GET TO THEIR FINAL, UM, WORK DESTINATION. AND THEN ARE THEY USING THAT SCOOTER TO GO BACK, UM, OR IS IT JUST, ARE THEY JUST USING THE, ARE SCOOTERS JUST BEING USED TO TRAVERSE FROM ONE, UM, VENUE DOWNTOWN TO ANOTHER ONE? UM, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, I THINK, SOME TRENDS AS TO HOW ARE THEY ACTUALLY USING THEM AT NIGHT? AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND COLLECT THE DATA RELATED TO INJURIES TO SEE, IS IT, IS IT INCREASING, IS IT DECREASING? UM, AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMPANIES AS THEY DEPLOY NEWER GENERATION VEHICLES THAT I THINK ARE MUCH SAFER THAN THE ORIGINAL VEHICLES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY LAUNCHED. GREAT TO HEAR JOHN. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK WITH, WITH, WITH THE FRAMEWORK AND, AND THE EQUITY PROGRAMS, UH, RIDER SAFETY IS, IS, IS CRITICAL, UH, AS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH. WHAT, HOW MANY? UH, WE'RE REQUIRING EIGHT, AT LEAST EIGHT, UM, IN THE CALENDAR, IN THE CALENDAR YEAR. SO THEY'LL NEED TO HAVE THESE COMMUNITY EVENTS WHERE THEY WOULD, UM, INVITE THE COMMUNITY. UM, SOME, A LOT OF TIMES THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AN EXISTING EVENT, UM, DOWNTOWN, AND THEN WE'LL PARTNER WITH THEM AND INVITE THEM TO ONE OF OUR EVENTS WHERE WE KNOW THERE'LL BE A LOT OF, UM, INDIVIDUALS. UM, SO THEY CAN REALLY OUTREACH DIRECTLY TO THE COMMUNITY, GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO MAYBE HAVE NEVER RIDDEN ONE, UM, TO KIND OF ORIENT THEMSELVES WITH IT WITH SOME INSTRUCTION, UM, AND DIRECTION. UM, THE ABILITY TO, UH, HAND OUT FREE HELMETS AT THOSE EVENTS TO, TO USERS. UM, AND THEN JUST PROVIDE EDUCATION ABOUT KIND OF THE RULES FOR WRITING RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR WRITING AND PARKING. UM, AND THEN JUST KIND OF SOME TIPS MAYBE ON, ON HOW TO USE THEM. I THINK THAT IS, IS CRITICAL. THE, THE, THE QUESTION OF HELMETS IS, HAS BEEN A TOUGH ONE, BUT I THINK HAVING THAT FRAMEWORK IN PLACE IS, UH, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF CONNECT THOSE DOTS. UH, YOU KNOW, HELMETS, HELMET USAGE SHOULD BE PROMOTED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AND THAT'S ABOUT, THAT'S ABOUT ALL WE CAN DO HERE, UH, AT THE CITY. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. SO WE'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT TO, UH, WEAR A HELMET. UM, THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR BICYCLES EITHER. UM, BUT WE DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, REALLY AS A COMMUNITY THAT, THAT AWARENESS BE OUT THERE, THAT, UM, HELMETS ARE HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. UM, AND ALSO THAT, UM, UM, WORKING WITH THE COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS, UH, AND THOSE ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM AS WELL. AND WILL THAT, WILL THAT BE PART OF THE COMMUNICATION, UH, STRATEGY OF THE COMPANIES, BUT AS A CITY AS WELL, OF, OF HOW WE RECOMMEND, UH, UTILIZATION OF, OF THESE SCOOTERS OFF, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UH, YOU KNOW, GOOD, SAFE PRACTICES. AND OF COURSE, WE ENCOURAGE THE USE OF HELMETS AND WHERE THEY CAN GET THOSE HELMETS, RIGHT. SO, AND IT'LL BE THROUGH OUR OWN EDUCATION AND CAMPAIGN. UM, WE WILL ALWAYS PROMOTE HELMET, WI HELMET USE, BUT THEN ALSO, UM, PROVIDE INFORMATION ON HOW TO OBTAIN A HELMET, AND THE COMPANIES WILL BE DOING THE SAME THING. WELL, THANK YOU, JOHN, WITH THAT, I MOTION TO PROVIDE 'EM FOUR, FOUR A, FOUR B. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION, UH, FOR ITEMS FOUR. DID I HEAR A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND. THANK YOU. COUNCILS MEMBER TREVINO. COUNCILS MEMBER PERRY. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE, JOHN, ON SLIDE SIX, ON THE REVENUE AND, UH, THE RECURRING I SEE FOR 2020, YOU HAVE 428,000, AND THEN RECURRING 413,000, BUT YET YOU'RE SHOWING THE TOTAL REVENUE IS OVER 600,000. WHERE, WHERE'S THAT ADDITIONAL 200,000 GOING? SURE. SO, UH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT THAT. THE, UH, THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE, EXTRA REVENUE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND DIRECT, UM, THAT REVENUE TO TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES. SO WHETHER IT'S, UM, DIRECTLY RELATED TO MAYBE ADDING MORE BIKE LANES, DO WE NEED MORE, UM, PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE OR IS IT JUST AN OVERALL, UM, TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVE? WE WOULD COME BACK TO YOU ALL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS WORKING MOST LIKELY WITH ART AND HIS TEAM ABOUT HOW TO DIRECT THOSE FUNDS. YEAH, I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT THIS WAS NOT, WE SHOULDN'T BE VIEWING THIS AS A MONEY MAKING PROJECT HERE. UM, LET'S WORK THE PROGRAM AND, AND GET IT, GET IT OPERATING AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS. 'CAUSE I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE ASKING THESE COMPANIES TO FORK OVER TO THE CITY, AND THAT IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, OVER A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOR THREE COMPANIES ON [01:20:01] SCOOTERS. I DON'T WANT THIS TO TURN INTO SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA CAUSE THEM TO GO OUTTA BUSINESS BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING TOO MUCH MONEY FROM THEM ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT OUR COSTS ARE. I, I, I GOT REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, JOHN. SURE. AND SO WE'VE NEGOTIATED WITH THE COMPANIES, AND THESE ARE THE REVENUE SHARES THAT WE HAVE SETTLED ON WITH THEM. I THINK THEY'RE COMFORTABLE. UM, THEY SUPPORT, UH, THIS REVENUE SHARE OPTION. UM, THE ALTERNATIVE WAS A VERY HIGH PERMIT FEE. UM, AND SO THROUGH THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS, WE SETTLED ON A REVENUE SHARE AS OPPOSED TO A, A HIGH PERMIT FEE. UM, AND I REMEMBER SEEING THAT ALSO. YEAH. AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I, I DIDN'T EXPECT THIS TO BE A MONEYMAKING PRO, UH, VENTURE FOR THE CITY. SO I'M, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND IN BUILDING, YOU KNOW, HERE'S JUST ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE'RE GETTING ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO THE CITY MM-HMM. NOW REIMBURSING OUR COSTS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. SURE. UM, SO I, I, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE COMPANIES COMING BACK SAYING, HEY, THE RIDERSHIP ISN'T THERE, WE'RE LOSING MONEY, AND THEN WE GOTTA GO BACK TO THE TABLE AGAIN TO 'EM, UM, WITH THEM TO SEE ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP THEM IN BUSINESS HERE IN TOWN. SO I'M, I'M PUTTING IT OUT THERE NOW THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. SURE. OKAY. UM, ALONG WITH THESE, UH, PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, UM, HOW MANY OFFICERS DO WE HAVE PATROLLING DOWNTOWN NOW? I HAVE A PRO IT, IT VARIES DEPENDING ON, UH, KIND OF THE SEASON AND WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT ON AVERAGE, I HAVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 30 PARKING OFFICERS DOWNTOWN. UM, WE DO HAVE PARKING, UM, ENFORCEMENT CITYWIDE, SO I HAVE ABOUT EIGHT OF THOSE, UM, THAT ARE OUT IN THE, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY DOING PARKING ENFORCEMENT. BUT, UM, BUT THAT VARIES DEPENDING ON, IT COULD, I COULD PULL SOME FROM ONE AND ADD TO ANOTHER. BUT ON AVERAGE ABOUT THAT I 30 PARKING OFFICERS NOT BEING ABLE TO ALSO LOOK AT THE, THIS PROGRAM HERE, I DO, WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS OUT THERE, UH, FOR THIS PROGRAM. WE, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY MORE BASED ON THE AREA THEY'RE COVERING BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A LARGE, UM, AREA OF DOWNTOWN THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO COVER. SO THIS IS THREE OFFICERS, AND THIS IS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. AND THIS IS DIFFERENT SHIFTS, SO IT'S NOT THREE OFFICERS ALL AT THE SAME TIME, UM, EVERY DAY. UM, SO THIS IS SOME OVERLAP BETWEEN THOSE, THOSE SHIFTS. UM, SO THEY'RE ONLY GONNA BE LOOKING AT SCOOTERS, THESE OFFICERS? YES. YES. NOT ANY OTHER PARKING VIOLATIONS. RIGHT. SO THIS WILL ALLOW OUR OTHER PARKING OFFICERS THAT ARE OUT THERE NOW TODAY TO CONTINUE TO ENFORCE, UM, PRIMARILY METER PARKING DOWNTOWN, UM, TOW AWAY ZONES, COMMERCIAL LOADING ZONES. UM, THEY ALSO ENFORCE OUR, UH, RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE THERE'S PARKING BY PERMIT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IN LAVACCA. UM, AND SO THIS WILL ALLOW JUST THREE INDIVIDUALS TO CONCENTRATE ON THIS. AND THAT'S THREE FOR A 24 HOUR, YOU SAID ON SHIFT WORK? IT, IT'S NOT 24 HOURS. SO IT'LL BE A MORNING AND A MORNING, UH, EARLY MORNING TO AFTERNOON, AND THEN A AFTERNOON TO EVENING SHIFT, BUT IT WILL BE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. OKAY. AND IF WE LIFT THIS RESTRICTION ABOUT THE NIGHTTIME RIDING, WHAT ARE WE JUST NOT GONNA? SO THE, SO THE WORRY ABOUT THAT THESE, UH, THESE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DO NOT ENFORCE WRITING, SO WRITING IS A, LIKE A TRAFFIC VIOLATION. UM, SO IT'S LIKE SPEEDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OUR OFFICERS ARE NOT, DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE THAT TYPE OF VIOLATION, JUST PARKING VIOLATIONS. SO SS A P D WILL CONTINUE TO, UM, ENFORCE WRITING, BUT I MEAN, EVEN FOR THE PARKING. SO THERE'S GONNA BE A PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE WON'T HAVE ANYBODY ENFORCING THE PARKING. WE, UH, WE DO HAVE A, UM, UH, THROUGH MONITORING, SO IT'S NOT AN ALL DAY EVERYDAY, UM, ENFORCEMENT. WHAT WE DO IN THE EVENINGS IS WE HAVE CERTAIN TIMES, UM, WE'LL IDENTIFY WHERE THEY'LL GO AND MONITOR AND SEE ARE THE COMPANIES, UM, COMPLYING. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE AREAS DOWNTOWN WHERE CENTRAL PRESSURE WAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS A, AN AREA WHERE VEHICLES HAVE TO BE REMOVED AT NIGHT. UM, AND SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MONITORING NIGHTLY. UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL MONITOR PERIODICALLY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING IT, UM, AND THEN REPORT, UM, BACK IF THEY DON'T, AND OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, UM, THE ONE SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST, UH, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING YOU NEED A PERSON TO MONITOR THESE THREE CONTRACTS? SO IT'LL BE, UM, IT'LL BE ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM. SO IT WOULD BE, UM, ACTUALLY REVIEWING THE CONTRACTS, ISSUING THE APPLICATIONS, AND THEN MONITORING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE COMPLIANT CONTRACTUALLY, UM, [01:25:01] WITH THE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING LOOKING AT FUNDING THE REVENUE AND, YOU KNOW, ARE WE, HOW MUCH FUNDING, HOW MUCH REVENUE IS COMING IN? OKAY. HOW MUCH ARE WE COLLECTING? YES. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR PEOPLE, RIGHT? FOR 413,000 AND SO, YES. AND SO THERE'LL ALSO BE, UM, THAT 413,000, UM, IS FOR SALARIES, UM, EQUIPMENT, AND SOME OF THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE TO HAVE EQUIPMENT, UM, OFFICE SPACE, UM, ET CETERA, COMPUTERS. OKAY. UH, DEVICES. ALRIGHT. UH, IN THE CONTRACT IT TALKS ABOUT AUDITING AND THERE'S NO REAL PARAMETERS AROUND THE AUDITING. WHAT, TELL ME WHAT, WHAT THAT ENTAILS? SO THERE'S, THERE'LL BE, UM, AUDITING FROM THE, THE, UM, SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST, WHICH IS KIND OF THE MONITORING OF THE CONTRACT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THEY ARE COMPLYING THAT THE, UH, REVENUE SHARE IS OCCURRING. UM, AND THEN, UM, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION, UM, THROUGH THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE TO COME BACK AND AUDIT THE CONTRACT AS WELL. OKAY. AND WHAT, WHAT WOULD TRIGGER SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I MEAN, WELL, ONCE A YEAR THEY GET AN AUDIT OR EVERY WEEK, OR HOW, HOW OFTEN WOULD THEY GET AN AUDIT? TYPICALLY, WE WOULD DO A YEAR END AUDIT AUDIT, UM, OR IF, OR A END OF CONTRACT AUDIT AS WELL. OKAY. AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE PERSON THAT'S GONNA BE WATCHING IT ON A DAILY BASIS? IF, IF, IF THE, UM, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF AUDIT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE AUDITING OF HOW WE'RE MONITORING THE CONTRACT? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AUDITING THEIR FINANCIALS OR AUDITING THE CONTRACTORS? I MEAN, I, I, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT KIND OF AUDITS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? BECAUSE IT JUST SAYS THEY WILL BE AUDITED, RIGHT. AND THERE'S NO PARAMETERS AROUND, YOU KNOW, IS THIS YEARLY OR IS THIS A ONE-TIME DEAL? OR HOW OFTEN IS THAT GONNA HAPPEN? UM, ON THIS, THE AUDITS ARE, ARE EXPENSIVE, RIGHT? YES. UM, I WOULD SAY THAT LIKE A LOT OF OUR CONTRACTS, WE REQUIRE THE, THE, UM, THE COMPANY WE HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH TO ACTUALLY PERFORM AN AUDIT, A THIRD PARTY AUDIT, AND PROVIDE US WITH A, A COPY OF THAT AUDIT. UM, SO WE COULD DO THAT, UM, OR WE COULD DO A, UM, AN INTERNAL AUDIT, SUCH AS YOU ALL DO FOR OTHER, OTHER CONTRACTS. I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS WE HAVE. TYPICALLY, WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO DO AN AUDIT. TYPICALLY UNDER THESE CONTRACT PROVISIONS, WHAT WE'LL DO IS, IN THE EVENT THAT THROUGH OUR CONTRACT COMPLIANT EFFORTS, IF WE NOTICE SOMETHING, IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO TRIGGER AN AUDIT OF THAT COMPANY. TYPICALLY, I HAVE A COMPLIANCE GROUP THAT CAN DO THAT. JOHN'S GROUP CAN DO THAT, OR, OR KEVIN'S GROUP TO DO THAT. SO TYPICALLY THAT'S, IT CAN BE DONE ONCE A YEAR, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S WHEN WE NOTICE SOMETHING FROM A COMPLIANCE STANDPOINT THAT WE THINK THAT WE NEED TO GO IN AND VALIDATE WHAT WE'VE BEEN PAID OR WHAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING. OKAY. SO NORMALLY THIS WOULDN'T BE A, A YEARLY TYPE OF THING. THIS IS JUST IF WE THINK THERE'S SOME ISSUES? YEAH. TYPICALLY IT'S A, IT'S A TERM CONTRACT TERM THAT ALLOWS US TO VALIDATE ANY EVENT THAT WE NEED IT. OKAY. UM, YEAH. UH, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO AN AUDIT VERY OFTEN IF WE'VE GOT A PERSON DEDICATED TO BE WATCHING THIS ON A DAILY BASIS. EXACTLY. AND THAT'S WHAT THE, THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST WOULD BASICALLY SERVE AS THE CONTRACT MONITOR TO MAKE SURE THAT RIGHT. THEY'RE CORRECTING VEHICLES WHEN THEY'RE FALLING, THEY'RE RESPONDING TO REPORTS, UM, AND THAT THE FINANCIALS ARE, ARE REVENUE IS SHARES BEING ADHERED TO. YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS I'M JUST NOT SAYING THAT WE NEED A FULL-TIME PERSON FOR THREE, BASICALLY ONE CONTRACT WITH THREE, THREE CONTRACT FOR THAT SINGLE CONTRACT. I MEAN, HOW MANY TYPICAL CONTRACTS DO OTHER SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYSTS HANDLE? ONE CONTRACT OR FIVE CONTRACTS, OR THEY COULD HANDLE MULTIPLE? I THINK THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. AND BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY MANAGING THIS, A PROGRAM WITH THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS, UM, HAVING TO, UM, COMMUNICATE WITH THE VENDORS SO WHEN THERE'S A, A VIOLATION REPORTED OR A COMPLAINT COMES IN, THIS PERSON WOULD HANDLE THAT AS WELL. UM, AND SO WE'VE FOUND JUST IN THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, UM, THAT, UM, IT'S QUITE A BIT OF ATTENTION AND WORK TO, UM, TO MONITOR AND COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMPANIES. AND SO WE DO FEEL THAT IT IS NECESSARY TO HAVE A PERSON DEDICATED OKAY. UM, TO THIS PROGRAM. OKAY. SO THEY'LL WORK ON HELPING WITH THE PARKING FRAMEWORK AND, AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS OTHER THAN JUST MONITORING THE CONTRACT. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT US [01:30:02] ADDING ADDITIONAL REVENUE, UH, ON THIS PROGRAM AT THIS POINT IN TIME. IF THE PROGRAM FLESHES OUT, THEY'RE ALL SUCCESSFUL, THEY'RE MAKING MONEY, THAT KIND OF THING AFTER SEVERAL YEARS. YEAH, I THINK WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE, BUT ON THIS FIRST CONTRACT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE PRODUCT, IF THEY'RE GONNA MAKE MONEY OR NOT MM-HMM. , AND I'M, I'M JUST NOT HAPPY WITH US MAKING $200,000 A YEAR ON THIS, THIS PROGRAM AT THIS POINT. SO I'LL, I'M REGISTERING MY COMPLAINT ABOUT THAT. OKAY. IN DISAGREEMENT. ALRIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, COUNCIL MEMBER. POLITE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I, UM, AM I THINK ONE OF THE FUNCTIONS OF MY JOB IS TO DRIVE ANDY SEGOVIA CRAZY. UH, AND ANDY, I'M ABOUT TO DO THAT A LITTLE BIT. I I'M GOING THROUGH THE CONTRACT. UM, ACTUALLY I WENT THROUGH THE CONTRACT LAST NIGHT AND NOW THAT COUNCILMAN PERRY MENTIONS AUDIT. UM, THERE ARE TWO AUDIT THERE. THERE'S REALLY TWO SECTIONS. ONE IS ON, AND, AND ONE OF THE LAWYERS IS GONNA PROBABLY WANT TO TAKE OUT THEIR PEN AND PAPER AND WRITE THIS DOWN TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. ONE OF THEM IS ON PAGE 12. SECTION 18 REQUIRES THE PERMITEE TO RETAIN DOCUMENTS FOR FOUR YEARS, UH, FOR PURPOSES OF DOCUMENT RETENTION, WHICH IS FOLLOWING, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 19, WHERE THE AUDIT PROVISIONS ARE IN THERE, IT REQUIRES THEM TO KEEP IT FOR THREE YEARS. UH, I, I, I THINK THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA WANNA MAKE UP YOUR MIND, RIGHT, IF IT'S THREE OR FOUR, I MEAN, THAT'S A SMALL THING THAT THE OTHER THING THAT I'LL, I'LL CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THAT, UM, ON THE PAGE 12 ONE, IT SAYS THAT THEY'VE GOT TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS. RIGHT? AND I, I GET IT, THAT'S FINE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I SEE YOU GUYS GETTING INTO A FIGHT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE OVER PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, UH, THAT THEY MAY NOT WANT TO OVER. AND IN THERE, THERE'S NO PROTECTIONS FOR THAT, RIGHT? ALL IT SAYS IS YOU GOTTA HAND IT OVER, AND THEN ONCE WE'VE GOT IT, WE CAN FIGHT OVER WHAT IS AND WHAT ISN'T PROPRIETARY. I, IF THIS WERE MY CLIENT, I WOULDN'T LET THEM SIGN THAT DOCUMENT. AND SO, UH, I, AND I SHOULD TELL YOU, I, I'VE ALREADY GOTTEN A CALL FROM SOME OF THESE COMPANIES TELLING ME WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THIS ONE PROVISION, RIGHT? UM, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, PAGE 19, UM, DOWN THERE, THE LANGUAGE SAYS CITY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE THE SCOPE OF EVERY AUDIT. UM, SO I'LL POINT OUT SOMETHING, SOMEBODY AT THE PODIUM SAID, YEAH, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACT SAYS WE CAN OBLIGATE THEM TO DO THE, THE AUDIT DOESN'T SAY THAT ANYWHERE IN THIS SECTION. IT SAYS THAT WE'RE THE ONES THAT DO THE AUDIT. AND SO, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY UP HERE IN THIS DIOCESE LEFT FOR THE IMPRESSION THAT WE CAN OBLIGATE THEM TO DO AN AUDIT, RIGHT. THAT MEETS OUR NEEDS. YOU, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA DO THE AUDIT, RIGHT? UM, AND SO, AND NUMBER TWO, THAT IS REALLY VERY BROAD, RIGHT? CITY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE THE SCOPE OF EVERY AUDIT. AND SO THE CALL THAT WE GOT FROM ONE OF THESE COMMENTS IS REALLY, I MEAN, YOU WANNA LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS IN AMSTERDAM AND YOU WANNA LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS IN PORTLAND AND SEATTLE, AND, YOU KNOW, I, AND I TOLD THEM, LOOK, I I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, IS UNREASONABLE HERE AT THE CITY. AND THEY, THEY DIDN'T WANNA LOOK AT THAT. AND SO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GET A COMMITMENT FROM YOU GUYS THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AUDIT AND DOCUMENT RETENTION, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT IT TO THE EXTENT THAT, UM, IT PERTAINS TO OUR CONTRACT AND DELIVERY OF SERVICES TO OUR CONTRACT. A COUPLE THINGS, MAYOR, IF I MAY, UH, FIRST OF ALL, COUNCILMAN, YOU DO A VERY GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF MAKING MY LIFE, UH, KIND OF CRAZY. , YOU GET AN A PLUS FOR THAT. UM, WE WILL MAKE THE CORRECTION ON THE YEARS. YEAH. UM, AND OUR AUDIT LANGUAGE IS, UH, INTENDED TO BE VERY BROAD IN SCOPE, OBVIOUSLY TO PROTECT THE CITY, BUT, UH, WE, UH, IN INTERACTING WITH THE, UH, PEOPLE WE CONTRACT WITH, IF ISSUES COME UP LIKE THAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO ACCOMMODATE AS BEST WE CAN WHILE PRESERVING THE PROTECTIONS WE HAVE. UM, SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE CLARIFICATIONS TO THE AUDIT. OKAY. TO THE AUDIT. AND THEN, THANK YOU, ANDY. I, I APPRECIATE IT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'LL POINT OUT IS THAT YOUR AUDIT PROVISIONS ALSO SAY YOU GOTTA TURN OVER PAYROLL RECORDS AND PERSONNEL FILES, WHICH SEEMS WEIRD TO ME SINCE THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS CONTRACT HAVING TO DO WITH PERSONNEL AND PAYROLL. SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH, THAT'S THERE, I'M MISSING SOMETHING. UM, NO, YOU'RE NOT. UH, AGAIN, WE, WE REPRESENTING THE CITY TRY TO GET AS BROAD A NUMBER OF RIGHTS AS WE CAN. UH, WE USE OBVIOUSLY, UH, A STANDARD AUDIT PROVISION, UM, THAT HAS THE BROAD ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO AUDIT. UM, BUT, UM, I'M GLAD YOU'RE NOT REPRESENTING THE . NO, I'M NOT. I'M JUST ASKING. I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED OF ME. OKAY. AND, AND, AND AGAIN, IF, IF THEY BRING IT UP THROUGH THEIR ATTORNEYS WITH US, WE WILL MAKE THOSE ACCOMMODATIONS. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANKS GUYS FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. THANKS, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PIAS. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. [01:35:02] THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. AND, UH, THANK YOU TO THE C C D O TEAM AND THE R F P EVALUATION TEAM AND THE BIDDERS FOR, UM, THEIR HARD WORK IN GETTING US TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE. UH, TODAY I HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, OF QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF THE CODE CHANGES THAT YOU MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION. I THINK THERE'S ONE ABOUT A ONE HOUR FOR A D A VIOLATIONS, AND THEN THE ONE ABOUT THE CURFEW. ARE WE ADOPTING THOSE CODE CHANGES TODAY, OR IS THAT AT A FUTURE DATE? THAT WOULD BE TODAY, YES. OKAY. UM, JUST TO, JUST TO CLARIFY, I DIDN'T SEE THE CODE LANGUAGE IN THE, UH, AS ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE PACKET, SO I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THAT. WOULD THAT NORMALLY BE THERE? UH, I THINK THAT WAS ITEM, UM, FOUR A, I BELIEVE. OKAY. YEAH. LET'S SEE. YES, I SEE DRAFT PERMIT AND REVENUE AGREEMENT FOR MAYBE IT'S FOUR B, UH, FOUR A IS AMENDING CHAPTER 19. THAT'S WHERE THE, THOSE REGULATIONS ARE. UM, OKAY. THAT, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. THEY'RE JUST NOT ON THIS DEVICE RIGHT NOW, UNLESS I NEED TO RELOAD. UM, I THINK THE A D A ONE IS, UH, IS GREAT. I AM, UH, I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE CURFEW. SURE. UM, SO WE ARE REC RIGHT NOW, THERE'S CURRENTLY A, UM, A NIGHTTIME RIDING, UM, PROHIBITION. UM, AND SO YOUR ACTION TODAY, UM, PER OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO LIFT THAT PROHIBITION. UM, SO NOW THE SCOOTERS WOULD BE AVAILABLE OR THE VEHICLES WOULD BE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY, AS LONG AS THE COMPANIES ARE DEPLOYING THEM. UM, AND THEN OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO, UM, ANALYZE THAT WITH SIX MONTHS, UM, LOOKING AT THE DA ACCIDENT DATA, USING THE, THE DATA PROVIDED BY THE COMPANIES, AND THEN COMING BACK TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UM, WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO EITHER, UM, BASICALLY MAKE THAT A PERMANENT, UM, BAN, UM, OR REINSTATE THAT DEPENDING ON, UM, WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE MM-HMM. , OR WE COULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL, UM, AND ACTUALLY HAVE THAT, UM, APPROVED BY COUNCIL. UM, OKAY. SO THIS IS WHY I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE CODE CHANGE LANGUAGE, THE, THE, UH, I, I THINK THOSE ARE REASONABLE OPTIONS. UM, THE WAY IT IS IN THE SLIDE, IT SAYS THAT WE'RE LIFTING THE, THE CURFEW, WHICH I AM SUPPORTIVE OF. RIGHT. UH, BUT IT ALSO SAYS THAT C C D O, THE C C D O DIRECTOR WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADMINISTRATIVELY REINSTATE IT. SO, UM, I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. SURE. I DO WANT A REVIEW, UH, BY, BY COUNSEL AND IF YOU WANNA DO IT AT A TIME CERTAIN, I, I THINK THAT THAT MAKES SENSE TOO, TO COME BACK MAYBE IN SIX MONTHS. SO, UM, I GUESS I NEED TO SEE THE LANGUAGE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING. YEAH. UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. I THINK WE WOULD, UM, AGREE THAT WE WOULD, UM, MAKE THAT CHANGE. AND SO INSTEAD OF GIVING THAT ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY TO ME, UM, WE WOULD CHANGE THAT. SO, UM, IT BASICALLY, WE WOULD JUST, UM, MAKE THE CHANGE WITH THE ACTION IF YOU TOOK THAT TODAY. AND THEN, UM, WE WOULD COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS BRIEF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. IF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UM, AGREES AND FEELS THAT WE NEED TO GO TO FULL COUNSEL, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNSEL AND BASICALLY WE WOULD JUST AMEND THE CODE AGAIN TO PUT THAT PROVISION BACK IN. RIGHT. OKAY. SO IS IT SUFFICIENT TO SAY THAT, TO HAVE THIS ON THE RECORD FOR THAT? 'CAUSE I, IT IS. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S NOTED FOR THE RECORD THAT THE PROCESS WILL BE, YOU'LL COME BACK BEFORE ANY CHANGE TO THE CURFEW WOULD BE MADE AGAIN. YEAH. SO WE'LL EFFECTIVELY, WE'LL PERMANENTLY AMEND THE CODE, UH, TO LIFT THAT BAN, AND THEN IN SIX MONTHS, UH, WE'LL ANALYZE IT AGAIN. AND IF THE COUNCIL FEELS THAT WE NEED TO REINSTATE IT, THEN WE'LL, THAT WOULD JUST AMEND THE CODE AGAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JOHN. UM, JUST, UH, I THINK THAT IT MAY END UP BEING A VITAL MODE OF TRANSPORTATION FOR SOME OF OUR, UH, THIRD SHIFT WORKERS, LIKE YOU SAID. AND, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S A POLICY DECISION IF WE DECIDE TO, TO WITHHOLD THAT FROM, FROM SOME OF THE USERS. SURE. UM, SO THANK YOU. UH, YOU MENTIONED, UM, EQUITY IN TERMS OF PRICING, AND I'M, I, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT GEOGRAPHIC EQUITY AND WHETHER OR NOT THESE, UH, HOW SOME OF THESE SCOOTERS MAY BE MADE AVAILABLE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. UM, CURRENTLY, CONTRACTUALLY, THEY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO, UM, DEPLOY IN CERTAIN, UM, AREAS OF, OF TOWN. I THINK WHAT WE WOULD, UM, CONTINUE TO DO IS TO WORK WITH THE COMPANIES, DETERMINE IS THERE A DEMAND, UM, IN AN AREA MAYBE THAT THEY'RE NOT SERVICING TODAY. AND IS THAT AN AREA, PERHAPS WHERE THE EQUITY PROGRAM, UM, WOULD APPLY. UM, AND THAT'S, UM, I THINK WHERE WE HAVE SOME [01:40:01] FLEXIBILITY GOING FORWARD TO, UM, MAYBE, UM, IF THEY SAY, LOOK, ALL 1000 OF OUR VEHICLES THAT ARE DOWNTOWN, THE DEMAND IS SO HIGH THAT WE REALLY CAN'T REDEPLOY ANY OF THOSE ANYWHERE ELSE, THEN WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU ALL THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PERHAPS ISSUE SOME TEMPORARY PERMITS FOR ADDITIONAL VEHICLES IN ANOTHER AREA OF TOWN, UM, WHERE THAT DEMAND, UM, MAY BE OCCURRING. UM, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. AND, UM, I KNOW YOU HAD SOME STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN SELECTING THE COMPANIES AND AS YOU WERE MOVING FORWARD MM-HMM. , UH, WHAT WILL THEIR ROLE BE GOING FORWARD? UH, I THINK WHEN WE, UM, WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE, THE, FOR THE PARKING FRAMEWORK, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WE COULD, UM, REACH BACK OUT TO SOME OF THE EVALUATION COMMITTEES THAT REPRESENTED THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, TO LOOK AT WHAT WOULD PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE LOOK LIKE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, CONSIDERING THAT IT IS, UM, UM, A DIFFERENT IN CHARACTER, SAY FROM THE DOWNTOWN. UM, AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE NOT APPLYING SOMETHING THAT WORKS DOWNTOWN THAT MAY BE ACTUALLY A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. SO IT MAY NEED TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, SO THEY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT CONVERSATION. GREAT. UM, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. UM, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNCILMAN IS GONNA BRING THIS UP, IS REVIEWING THE ROLE OF THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD MM-HMM. AND, UH, CONSIDERING MODIFYING THAT TO SOMETHING BROADER THAT INTEGRATES, UH, YOU KNOW, MULTI MODES. SO I THINK ONCE THAT COMMITTEE IS FORMED, UH, THAT WOULD ALSO BE AN APPROPRIATE, UH, FORUM TO PROVIDE UPDATES AND EVEN GET SOME INPUT ON THE, ON THE PROGRAM. YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. I ATTENDED, UM, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY A NON-VOTING MEMBER OF THAT BOARD, BUT, UM, I ATTENDED THE MEETING THAT ART, UM, HELD, UM, FOR THAT. SO I THINK, AND THE WHOLE TIME I'M THINKING, THIS WOULD'VE BEEN A GREAT BOARD TO BRING IN THIS, THIS ISSUE TOO. WOULD'VE HELPED GREATLY. YEAH. OKAY. UM, WONDERFUL. UH, I WANNA FOLLOW UP ON A, JUST TWO MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THIS. I WANNA FOLLOW UP ON A QUESTION THAT COUNCILMAN COURAGE HAD REGARDING INSURANCE. UM, AND I, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS PROTECTED IF SOMEONE, UH, WERE TO BE INJURED ON, ON ONE OF THESE, UH, UH, SCOOTERS. UH, BUT WHAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMPANY VERSUS THE RIDER? UM, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD EXPLAIN TO ME? SO IF I, IF I GET ON A SCOOTER AND MAYBE THE HANDLEBARS ARE LOOSE OR SOMETHING, THEN WHAT? SORRY, MY, MY COUNCIL FOUND IT FOR ME. . OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. GENERALLY THEY HAVE THEIR OWN USER AGREEMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO CLICK BEFORE YOU ARE ABLE TO UNLOCK THE VEHICLE THAT SETS OUT THAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE OPERATOR AND THE USER. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND, AND JOHN, THIS IS A QUESTION, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS FOR YOU OR FOR THE ACTUAL, UH, COMPANIES THEMSELVES, AS YOU KNOW, UH, IN NOVEMBER, SORRY. YES. WE RECENTLY ADOPTED A REVISED, UH, SAFE AND SICK LEAVE ORDINANCE. UH, IT'S CURRENTLY UP IN THE AIR ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL, UH, STAND. AND, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE COMPANIES, IF THEY CURRENTLY PROVIDE, UH, SAFE AND SICK LEAVE, UH, THAT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE COMPANIES ARE HERE THAT RESPOND, IF WE RESPOND, HAD AN INJUNCTION WE WOULD HAVE HAD, YEAH. WE WOULD'VE EXPECTED THEM TO. I KNOW SOME OF THEM DO HAVE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, SOME OF THEM USE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, AND SOME HAVE CONTRACT EMPLOYEES. I SEE SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM, UH, ONE OF THE COMPANIES WHO CAME TO MEET WITH ME YESTERDAY. COULD I HAVE ONE OF THEM COME UP? GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BLANCA LEOR FROM BYRD RIDES. UM, YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. UM, AS, UM, AS THE DIRECTOR MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE BOTH PART-TIME AND FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. AND YES, OUR FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME EMPLOYEES HAVE, HAVE BENEFITS INCLUDING, UM, SICK LEAVE. UM, GREAT. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTED? I'M SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND WE CERTAINLY WILL COMPLY WITH ANY LOCAL, UM, ORDINANCES OR STATE RULES. SURE. SO, UM, I GUESS THE REASON I'M ASKING IS THAT OUR ORDINANCE WAS ENJOINED MM-HMM. . SO IT'S, UH, CURRENTLY NOT IN EFFECT. AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, UH, WHAT YOUR COMPANY'S COMMITMENT IS TO PROVIDING SAFE AND SICK LEAVE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE EVENT THAT OUR ORDINANCE DOESN'T STAND, UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE, WE ARE COMMITTED TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, UM, INCLUDING ME. MM-HMM. HAVE, UH, HAVE, HAVE PAID SICK LEAVE AND, UH, AND ANNUAL LEAVE AND, AND EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. SO, HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND WITH THE CITY AS, AS YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU AND COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU FURTHER ON THAT. [01:45:01] THANK YOU VERY AND GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS. THANK YOU. SO THAT WAS BYRD, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FROM, UH, RAZOR OR LYME? THANK YOU. YES. COULD YOU PLEASE COME ANSWER THE QUESTION? THANKS. HI, COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU. UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME'S JOE DEEL. I'M WITH LYME. HI JOE. UM, HI. UM, SO WE OBVIOUSLY ALSO INTEND TO COMPLY WITH LOCAL REGULATIONS IN THE CITY. THANK YOU, . AND, UM, WE DO PROVIDE THOSE BENEFITS FOR OUR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. SO I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE SAME HERE. WE HAVE BOTH FULL-TIME, PART-TIME EMPLOYEES HERE IN THE CITY. OKAY. SO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE ALSO APPLIES TO PART-TIME EMPLOYEES. I WOULD ACTUALLY JUST HAVE TO GET CLARITY ON THAT. MM-HMM. , JUST TO BE QUITE HONEST, SINCE I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND, I DIDN'T PREPARE FOR THAT QUESTION, BUT, BUT I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO DO THAT AND FOLLOW UP WITH OKAY. WITH YOUR OFFICE. UM, THANK YOU. SO, UM, I, I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN YOU DO FOLLOW UP WITH US IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ADOPTED THE, THE ORDINANCE MM-HMM. , THERE WAS A COMMISSION THAT WORKED, UH, VERY HARD, UH, ON IT. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT MAY BE OVERTURNED, UH, LATER IN COURT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS COUNCIL ADOPTED IT NONETHELESS. SO, UH, MY POSITION IS THAT IN COMPANIES THAT WE PARTNER WITH WOULD, UH, HOPEFULLY UPHOLD WHAT WE, UH, WHAT WE ADOPT HERE, EVEN IF THE COURTS, UH, EVEN IF THE COURTS DON'T, BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH US. SO, UNDERSTAND, THANK YOU. THE STATE OF VALUES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND, UH, SO YOU WERE WITH RAZOR, AND THEN I'M WITH LYMAN LYME. OH, SORRY, SORRY. ALL THIS, ALL THE NAMES. APPRECIATE IT. HI, COUNCILWOMAN. UH, MY NAME'S DONOVAN HIGBY. I'M WITH RAZER. UM, LIKEWISE. UM, WE, UH, ONLY USE FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME EMPLOYEES. WE DON'T USE ANY INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS OKAY. IN OUR OPERATIONS, UM, IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, AND ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES DO, UH, CURRENTLY RECEIVE PAID SICK LEAVE. UM, I'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH OUR HR TEAM TO ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF, OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, BUT AS OF NOW, WE DO PROVIDE, UH, SICK LEAVE, UM, DEFINITELY TO OUR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. I BELIEVE THERE IS SOME MINIMUM THRESHOLD FOR PART-TIME EMPLOYEES ABOUT THE HOURS THEY WORK. I'D, I'D HAVE TO CLARIFY WITH OUR HR TEAM. BUT, UM, WE, WE AS OF NOW, DO PROVIDE PAID SICK LEAVE, SO I'M HAPPY TO CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU ON, ON THE SPECIFICS OF THE ORDINANCE. SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. THANK YOU, UH, JOHN, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND THANKS AGAIN FOR VISITING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENTS, UH, A FEW MONTHS AGO ON THIS ISSUE. YEAH, THAT WAS FUN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BREAKFAST. MM-HMM. , THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS, SANDOVAL, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND, UM, SO I, I DO WANT TO, UH, JUST THANK, UM, YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK AND ALSO THE TEAM, UM, THAT CAME TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME. I MEAN, SOME OF YOU ALL ARE PAID STAFF AND IT'S YOUR JOB, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOT. AND SO, UH, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THEIR TIME, UH, AND THEIR CONTRIBUTION. UM, NO SURPRISE, I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ORDINANCE. I WAS NEVER, OR OF THIS R F P I WAS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE R F P I WAS NEVER SUPPORTIVE OF THIS IDEA COMING THROUGH C C D O. I ALWAYS FELT LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TRANSPORTATION ISSUE. I FELT LIKE WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS VERY DIFFERENTLY IF THIS HAD BEEN TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY AS A TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IT WAS NOT. IT WAS TAKEN MORE AS A CONTRACT FOR DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. UM, I DON'T, UM, BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS A VERY GOOD ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS MICRO MOBILITY IN OUR CITY. UM, AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO BRING ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATIONS IN, WE HAVE COMPLETELY ISOLATED, UH, OTHER TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE AND RELEGATED IT TO STAFF TO GO OUT TO AN R F P, WHICH WE WOULD NEVER DO IF WE WERE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT HAVING ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATIONS. WE WOULD NEVER HAVE, UM, LIMITED THE AMOUNT OF RIDERS OR CREATED CURFEWS, OR NOT INVESTED A SINGLE ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE EXCEPT A COUPLE OF TAPED PARKING SPACES, UM, TO PUT THE, UH, THE DEVICES. SO, UM, YEAH, I FEEL LIKE IF WE HAD BEEN SERIOUS ABOUT IT AND HAD BEEN CREATIVE, UH, WE COULD HAVE DIRECTED STAFF TO FIND A WAY TO IMPLEMENT TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES. UH, BUT WE DID NOT DO THAT. WE RELEGATED IT TO C C D O TO ISSUE RFPS. SO, UM, I, I'M, I, I UNDERSTAND THIS WAS WHAT THE COUNCIL DECIDED AND WANTED TO PURSUE. UM, BUT I DON'T SUPPORT IT AND I NEVER HAVE. SO I WANNA BE CONSISTENT [01:50:01] IN THAT AND, AND NOT SUPPORT, UH, THIS, UM, INITIATIVE TODAY. UM, I, MY ONLY, THE ONLY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, UH, AND EVEN, WELL, IT'S STILL REALLY, IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION, KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT MY OTHER COLLEAGUES MENTIONED ABOUT NOT INCLUDING OUR MOBILITY OFFICER IN THIS. I MEAN, THERE WAS ONLY ONE TRANSPORTATION PERSON ON, UM, THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. AND, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UM, THIS WAS ALWAYS LED BY CENTRO AND NOT EVER REALLY CONSIDERED TRANSPORTATION. WE CAME TO BMAC, BUT BASICALLY THE SAME PRESENTATION WAS HERE AS WELL. SO I FELT LIKE IT COULD HAVE BEEN, AND AS A COUNCILWOMAN REMINDED ME, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION, UH, ALTERNATIVES COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER GERRAN, UH, REMINDED US OF THAT PERHAPS THAT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED. UM, HOW THE TAP, UH, TRANSPORTATION, UM, ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, THE TA WAS, UM, FORMED BECAUSE OF TAXI CABS AND TN WELL TAXI CABS MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. UH, AND HAD BEEN ON THAT JUST REALLY JUST TAXI CABS, LIMOS AND HORSE CARRIAGES, UH, FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. SO, UM, I, I JUST, UH, WHILE I APPRECIATE, UM, ESPECIALLY THE VOLUNTEERS THAT CAME AND PARTICIPATED, UH, I DON'T SUPPORT THE R F P, SO, UH, THANK YOU. AND I DON'T SUPPORT THE PROCESS AT ALL, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, WANTED TO JUMP BACK IN HERE AND, AND ABOUT THIS SAFE AND SICK LEAVE. ANDY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LEGAL, UM, STANDING TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO IMPLEMENT OUR ORDINANCE, DO WE? THE, THE ORDINANCE, AS THE COUNSEL KNOWS, IS NOT IN EFFECT CURRENTLY, SO THERE'S NO, UH, LEGAL OBLIGATION TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE. AND IT'S NOT IN THE R F P OR THE CONTRACT. RIGHT. SO, NOT QUITE SURE THE DIRECTION MY COLLEAGUE IS MOVING WITH THAT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONTRACT, NOTHING IN THE PROPOSAL. OUR ORDINANCE IS BEING HELD RIGHT NOW BY THE COURTS. SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE SAYING THESE COMPANIES HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT OTHER THAN WHAT THEY NORMALLY PROVIDE THEIR EMPLOYEES. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, COUNCILMAN. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. UM, AND I'LL JUST WRAP UP HERE. JOHN, UH, TEAM LORI. EVERYBODY DID A GREAT JOB ON THIS. I, I'M STILL IMPRESSED. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS NOT BEEN AN EASY PROCESS. ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN OUT THERE AND SEEN THE SCOOTERS DESCEND UPON SAN ANTONIO HAS NOT BEEN PLEASED ABOUT HOW EVERYTHING'S PLAYED OUT. BUT WE HAVE DONE, UH, I THINK A GOOD JOB IN BEING RESPONSIVE TO THOSE CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING, I THINK, INNOVATIVE ENOUGH FOR US TO MAINTAIN CONTROL AND ADJUST FOR SAFETY AESTHETIC AND, AND OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN THROUGH THE PUBLIC. UH, I DO WANNA SAY, THOUGH, I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ ON THE POINTS SHE'S MADE, WHICH I'VE REPEATED AS WELL, WHICH IS THAT WE'RE NEVER GONNA SEE THIS RESOLVED. UH, THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT SCOOTERS AND TOUR SERIOUS ABOUT BUILDING MICRO MOBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY. AND SO I THINK IF THERE'S A TAKEAWAY LESSON FOR ALL OF US AS A COMMUNITY, IS THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT, UH, WE NEED TO DO THAT IN A ROBUST MANNER. I JUST SAW THE SLIDE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER IT IS, BUT ALL THE PICTURES OF SCOOTERS WORKING WELL IN COMMUNITIES, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM HAD A BIKE LANE IN IT. UM, SO UNTIL WE SEE THAT IN OUR CITY, I THINK WE'RE STILL GONNA SEE THESE PRESSURE POINTS PLAY OUT, UH, WITH SCOOTERS. BUT I AM IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, CONTRACT. I DO APPRECIATE THE STAFF WORK INVOLVING GETTING US THERE, AS WELL AS THE RESPONSE AND PARTICIPATION FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO, UH, WITH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. MOVE NOW TO ITEM 27. [27. Ordinance amending Chapters 13, 15, and 26 of the City Code to align all renewable Food & Environmental permits and Air Pollution registrations with the City’s Fiscal Year, October 1st thru September 30th. [Colleen M. Bridger, MPH, PhD, Assistant City Manager; Jennifer Herriott, MPH, Interim Director, Health]] ITEM 27 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY CODE OF SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, CHAPTER 35, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 35 DASH THREE 10 DASH ZERO ONE, TABLE THREE 10 DASH ONE LOT, AND BUILDINGS DIMENSIONS TABLE RELATED TO LOT, AND BUILDING DIMENSIONS IN R M AND M F DISTRICTS AND PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION. OKAY, I THINK THIS ONE WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO. OKAY, MIKE, YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? SURE. UH, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH A, A, A, A QUICK PRESENTATION. SOME OF THE STUFF IS, UH, WHAT WE WENT OVER LAST WEEK, BUT YOU ASKED US TO COME BACK AFTER WE WENT THROUGH, UH, ANOTHER PROCESS. WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMUNITY [01:55:01] DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE EARLIER THIS WEEK TO HASH OUT, UH, THE MAIN ITEM, UH, THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST WEEK. SO AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT THE, UH, ZONING, THE MF 33 AND R RMM FOUR ZONING. SOME OF THESE SLIDES, I'M GONNA QUICKLY GO THROUGH THERE, THE SAME FROM LAST WEEK. UH, THIS WAS A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST, UH, FROM COUNCILMAN TREVINO TWO YEARS AGO. AGAIN, HOW CAN WE MODIFY OUR CODE, OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ENSURE THAT A DEVELOPMENT CAN HAPPEN, BUT IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROTECT THOSE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO, UH, THIS IS THE TIMELINE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP THERE. UH, LAST WEEK WE WERE HERE, YOU ASKED US TO GO TO PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WE DID LAST, UH, THIS, THIS MONDAY. WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, ESPECIALLY THE, THE ITEM ITEM, UH, WITH VACANT PROPERTIES. AND THEN WE'RE HERE TODAY. SO, UH, AGAIN, THE OVERVIEW, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEIGHT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS AND, AND, AND, AND, UM, AND STREET ORIENTATION. THOSE ARE THREE OF THE ITEMS. THERE'S SOME INFORMATION WE WENT THROUGH LAST WEEK ON WHAT A RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE DISTRICT IS, OR MF 33, YOU CAN BUILD MORE THAN ONE SINGLE FAMILY UNIT ON ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY. THAT'S WHAT WE WENT THROUGH. UH, SO ALL OF THAT WAS DISCUSSED. WE HIGHLIGHTED THERE THAT THE MF 33 ZONE PROPERTY TODAY CAN BUILD TO 45 FEET. THE KEY THERE IS THAT CAN 10 THAT CAN LEAD TO FOUR FOOT, UH, FOUR STORY STRUCTURES, UH, AS OPPOSED TO A TYPICAL TWO AND A HALF OR THREE STORY STRUCTURE YOU WOULD SEE ELSEWHERE. WE HAD A, A TASK FORCE OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO. UH, VERY BALANCED. A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, LEADERSHIP, UH, MEMBERS WERE IN IT. WE HAD A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THERE, UH, TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THIS ISSUE. UH, WE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS, UH, COMMUNITY MEETINGS WENT THROUGH THIS, AND WE PRESENTED LAST WEEK, THREE PROPOSED CHANGES WE WERE GONNA PROPOSING TO REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS FROM 45 FEET TO 35 FEET IF THEY'RE ADJACENT TO AN EXISTING HOME. THAT'S WHEN WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, WHAT IF THAT, UH, THAT LOT NEXT DOOR IS A VACANT LOT. UH, WE'LL GET TO THAT. THE OTHER ONE WAS ENSURING THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAD A SIMILAR SETBACK, THAT FRONT SETBACK AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE STREET. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO MODIFY THE FRONT SETBACKS TO A MINIMUM OF 10 FEET, LIKE YOU WOULD IN A, A TYPICAL HOME DEVELOPMENT. WE WANT THAT TO BE A MORE CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. AND THEN THE STREET ORIENTATION, HAVING, AGAIN, CONSISTENT, UH, KIND OF LOOK AND FEEL AND CHARACTER AS THESE ARE BEING BUILT FRONT DOOR WALKWAYS AND SUCH. SO, UH, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF OTHER TOPICS THAT ARE, UH, GONNA BE DISCUSSED THROUGH THE U D C PROCESS NEXT YEAR. SO AGAIN, WE, UH, WHAT GOT US HERE TODAY IS WE HAD TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT ABUTTING PROPERTY IS ZONED R SIX, UH, BUT MAYBE IT'S A VACANT PROPERTY. AND WHAT ORIGINALLY WAS PROPOSED AND GOING THROUGH THE ZONING COMMISSION, THE CLARIFICATION MADE THERE WAS THIS NEW HEIGHT WOULDN'T APPLY TO VACANT PROPERTIES. THE CONCERN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK WAS, WELL, THAT COULD POSSIBLY INCENTIVIZE SOMEONE FROM TAKING AN EXISTING PROPERTY, UH, EXISTING HOUSING STOCK, DEMOLISHING IT TO GET OUT OF THAT REQUIREMENT, MAYBE A PERCEIVED OR REAL A LOOPHOLE TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT WE DISCUSSED, AND IT WAS, UH, TALKING ABOUT, WELL, WHEN DID THAT PROPERTY BECOME VACANT? WITHIN THREE YEARS OR SO. THAT WAS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY GOOD CONSENSUS, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ON IT. WE ACTUALLY WENT TO, UH, PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, ON MONDAY. HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. AND ACTUALLY WE CAME UP WITH, AND THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO, UH, ACTUALLY RECOMMEND THIS LANGUAGE. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. AND ACTUALLY WHAT IT SAYS IS, UM, THE, THE HEIGHT LIMIT SHALL APPLY TO PROPERTIES ABUTTING A VACANT PROPERTY. SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS, UH, VOTED ON AND MADE IT OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WAS, UH, IF IT IS A VACANT, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONE PROPERTY, THE NEW HEIGHT LIMIT WOULD APPLY THAT WOULD ADD THAT PROTECTION, UH, AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTINUES TO DEVELOP. HERE'S A, A, A QUICK PICTURE, UH, OF WHAT WE HAVE. IF I HAVE AN MF 33 RIGHT NEXT TO AN EXISTING HOME, IT'S VERY SIMPLE. SO WE'RE TAKING IT FROM 45 TO 35. AND RIGHT NOW THE NEW LANGUAGE IS, IF IT'S A VACANT LOT, WE KEEP THAT PROTECTION, THAT NEW LIMIT OF 35. IT'S VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND, VERY EASY TO ENFORCE. UM, AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, THE, OF THE, THE PROPOSED CHANGES FROM LAST WEEK WITH INCLUDING THE PROPOSED, UH, PLANNING COMMITTEE DEVELOP, UH, AMENDMENT THAT MADE IT THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE, UH, FOR THE VACANT PROPERTY. SO, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT'S, UM, A GOOD CHANGE. IT WILL ALLOW THOSE PROTECTIONS AND IT WILL ALLOW GOOD DEVELOPMENT, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT, I KNOW I WENT FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT A LOT OF THAT YOU HEARD LAST WEEK, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MIKE. UH, AS ALWAYS, STELLAR, UM, COUNCILMAN . OH, OH, RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE, UH, ABOUT EIGHT CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. UM, I'LL BE STARTING WITH MS. CYNTHIA SPIELMAN, WHO'LL BE FOLLOWED BY MR. CULLEN JONES. AND THEN MONICA SAVINO. MS. FIELDMAN, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. [02:00:01] IS THERE ANY WAY TO PUT THAT PICTURE? THE AUDIO VISUAL MAN IS COMING. OH, GOOD. . THANK YOU. JUST PUT THAT ON THERE. GOOD MORNING. UH, MY NAME IS CYNTHIA SPILLMAN AND I LIVE IN BEACON HILL, THE HOME OF THE INFAMOUS BEACON HILL SKUNK. UM, I HOPE YOU INDULGE ME. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WILL SPEAK TO THE VERY SPECIFICS OF THIS, UH, THE IDEAS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT TODAY. BUT I'D LIKE TO PLACE THIS IN A MORE, UM, A LARGER CONTEXT AND ADDRESS SOME SLIGHT MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT, ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT DENSITY FOR JUST A MOMENT. THERE'S THIS ASSUMPTION THAT THE MORE DENSITY WE CREATE, THE MORE AFFORDABLE THE HOUSING. AND THIS IS BUILT ON THE ANCIENT ADAM SMITH MODEL THAT IS FLAWED. IT'S SIMPLY NOT AS CLEAR. AND STUDIES ARE DISCREDITING THIS SIMPLISTIC IDEA, OR AT THE LEAST, SHOWING THAT THIS IS A MUCH MORE COMPLEX PROCESS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. NOW, INTENSITY IS NOT PRODUCING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT PRODUCES A LOT OF MARKET RATE, EXPENSIVE HOUSING THAT DRIVES UP LAND VALUES, CREATES A SPECULATIVE RUSH AND CAUSES DISPLACEMENT, MAKING THE INCOME SEGREGATION IN THIS CITY EVEN WORSE, OFTEN AFFORDABLE MIDDLE HOUSING, SUCH AS THE CASE RECENTLY IN MANKEY PARK IN TOBIN HILL HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED. ITS RESIDENTS DISPLACED, MAKES ROOM FOR EXPENSIVE NEW CONSTRUCTION. THIS KIND OF POLICY DESTABILIZES RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND DESTROYS THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN WHICH THEY LIVE. MANHATTAN AND SAN FRANCISCO AND CHICAGO ARE ALSO VERY DENSE AND VERY EXPENSIVE. IT'S NOT HOW MUCH YOU BUILD, BUT WHAT YOU BUILD. NO ONE IS BUILDING SUSTAINABLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, DESPITE THE CLAIMS THAT WE'RE HAMPERING THEIR ABILITY TO DO SO. THEY'RE BUILDING FOR WHATEVER PRICE POINT THEY CAN GET, AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH INHERENTLY WRONG IN THIS BUSINESS MODEL, BUT WE CAN CREATE PUBLIC POLICY BASED ON A BUSINESS MODEL, PARTICULARLY WHEN THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF MARKET RATE HOUSING IN THIS CITY. THE ARGUMENT IS THAT EVENTUALLY AS THE NEW STRUCTURES AGE OR ANOTHER PART OF TOWN BECOMES TRENDY, RENT AND HOUSE PRICES WILL DROP. SO YOU CREATE A LAND RUSH, YOU JACK UP THE PRICES, PEOPLE ARE DISPLACED AND BUILD A LOT OF EXPENSIVE BOXES. AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL GO THROUGH A DOWNTURN AS THOSE BOXES AGE AND, AND AS OTHER PARTS BECOME TRENDY AND THOSE THAT HAVE BOUGHT NOW WILL LOSE THEIR SHIRTS ON HOMES, CREATING MORE POVERTY, SLUM WARDS WILL BUY UP THE PROPERTY, AND THEN WE HAVE A DECLINED NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN, AS INFRASTRUCTURE FALLS APART. WHY WOULD WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THIS KIND OF DESTRUCTIVE CYCLE? THE SOLUTION IS TO BUILD COMPATIBLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT STABILIZES NEIGHBORHOODS. WE ARE EXPLORING SOME GROUNDBREAKING IDEAS IN THE REMOVING BARRIERS TO AFFORDING HOUSING TASK FORCE IN WHICH I SERVE AS CO-CHAIR FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. ADU, WE'RE PROMOTING THROUGH COMPATIBLE DESIGN STANDARDS, THE MUCH NEEDED MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S BEING DEMOLISHED. WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO REMOVE WHAT DEVELOPERS HAVE STATED OR BARRIERS TO BUILDING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. NEIGHBORHOODS ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS WITH MORE. CAN I HAVE SOMEONE SEED MY, I'D LIKE TO SEED MY TIME AND YOUR NAME, MA'AM. THANK YOU. NEIGHBORHOODS ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS WITH MORE AND MORE SUCCESS TO DEVELOP MORE INTENSELY ON OUR COMMERCIAL AND TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND IN PLACES WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. AND THERE ARE THOSE PLACES. IF WE BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND REGIONAL CENTERS AND CONCENTRATE ON BUILDING ON EMPTY OFF AND A ABANDONED PARKING LOTS, WE'D HAVE ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO MEET THE PROJECTED NEEDS FOR HOUSING AND KEEP WHAT'S ACTUALLY WITH, WITH WHAT'S ACTUALLY OUTLINED IN THE SA TOMORROW COMP PLAN. WHAT WILL BRING MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS AND DENSITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IS TRUST BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CITY STAFF. IF YOU ALLOW THE DESTRUCTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS, THE RESISTANCE WILL INCREASE. IF YOU PROMOTE THE DISPLACEMENT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOUR CONSTITUENTS WILL FIGHT BACK. DON'T LET DEVELOPMENT POLICY IN EFFECT BECOME THE NEW REDLINING. DENSITY SHOULD BE PART OF THE AFFORDABILITY EQUATION, BUT NOT IN A WAY THAT DISPLACES PEOPLE FROM THEIR HOMES AND THE APARTMENTS IN WHICH THEY LIVE. NOW, WE CAN'T WORK TOGETHER AS LONG AS NEIGHBORHOOD VOICES ARE CAST AS OUTLIERS OR STRUCTURALISTS WHO DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHO DON'T PAY BY PLAY BY THE RULES. IN FACT, WE'RE THE ONES FOLLOWING THE ESSAY TOMORROW. PLAN, COMPREHENSION PLAN. WE WORK SO HARD TO BE INCLUDED IN ITS PRODUCTION BECAUSE WE TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. WHEN YOU TOLD US IT'S A ROADMAP TO OUR FUTURE, WE BELIEVED THERE WOULD BE A WILL TO REACH A DESTINATION. WHEN SOMEONE BUYS A LOT TO DEVELOP, THEY DON'T THINK, HOW DOES THIS FIT IN WITH A COMP PLAN OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN OR THE SUB AREA PLAN. THEY THINK, HOW CAN I MAXIMIZE MY PROFITS AS THEY SHOULD? THEY'RE A BUSINESS, BUT IT IS OUR JOB TO [02:05:01] CONSIDER THE COMP PLAN. THE COMP PLAN STATES, WHEN CREATING DENSITY AND NEIGHBORHOODS, ENSURE INFIELD DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, AND DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A PLAN TO PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN AFFORDABLE RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP HOUSING FOR LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS WITHIN REVITALIZING NEIGHBORHOODS. SECTION TEN EIGHT STATES RECENT INFILL DEVELOPMENT HAS RAISED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WITH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS IN TERMS OF CHARACTER DESIGN AND PERCEIVED DENSITY. CONTEXT SENSITIVE DEVELOPMENT POLICIES CAN ENSURE THE CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS IS ENHANCED BY NEW DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO FOLLOW THE PLAN YOU TOLD US WE WERE ALL GOING TO USE. WHAT WE ARE ASKING DOES NOT COME FROM A DESIRE TO STOP DEVELOPMENT, BUT TO ENCOURAGE COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HEALTHIER FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE TO STRIKE A BALANCE TO STRIVE FOR COMPATIBLE, AFFORDABLE, AND CONTEXT SENSITIVE DEVELOPMENT. AND TODAY, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A STEP TOWARDS THAT GOAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. SPIELMAN AND MS. SINO. MR. CULLEN JONES, FOLLOWED BY IRMA HOFFMAN. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. CULLEN JONES, 1123 NOLAN, UH, CITY COUNCIL. UH, FIRST OFF, UH, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN COURAGE FOR YOUR COMMENTS REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I LOVE THE HAT. UH, UH, SECOND POINT. I'D LOVE TO GET A SHOUT OUT TO, UH, PARKS AND REC. THE HAY STREET BRIDGE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE. THEY'VE ACTUALLY INCORPORATED, UH, UH, COMMITTEE FEEDBACK AND THINGS ARE LOOKING REALLY COOL. WE JUST NEED LIKE A BUNCH AND A BUNCH OF MONEY. HAVING SAID THAT, THOUGH, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. LIKE MANY I'VE WONDERED AND EXPLORED NEIGHBORHOODS AND CITIES SUCH AS CHICAGO, SAN FRANCISCO, AND LONDON. COMPATIBLE DENSITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE AN ISSUE UNTIL OUTWARD SPRAWL IS ADDRESSED. NEIGHBORHOODS WILL CONTINUE TO BE TARGETED TO CREATE AN ARTIFICIAL NEED TO DENSIFY AS WE LACK GEOGRAPHIC REQUIREMENTS IN A MORE RESPONSIBLE LAND USE PLAN TO FORCE A NATURAL DENSITY PROTECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, OUR CULTURAL, SOCIAL, AND HISTORICAL CENTERS WILL ERRONEOUSLY BE PERCEIVED AS HURDLES TO A DENSER METROPOLITAN CITY. PLAYING THE DENSITY CARD IN THE SPRAWL CARD SIMULTANEOUSLY IS ESSENTIALLY LIKE TRYING TO STACK WATER. AS LONG AS SPRAWL CONTINUES, NEIGHBORHOODS WILL STRUGGLE TO STAY INTACT. THANK YOU, DISTRICT ONE, COUNCILMAN TREVINO AND DISTRICT TWO, ANDREW SULLIVAN FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE AND RECOGNIZING THAT DISMANTLING NEIGHBORHOODS WITH UNCOMPATIBLE STRUCTURES DOESN'T EQUATE TO DENSIFYING THE CITY. THIS ISSUE HAS MULTIPLE COMPONENTS AND ALL NEED ADDRESSING TO COME TO A SOLUTION. THE AMENDMENTS TO THE MF 33 RM FOUR LANGUAGE IS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. JONES, IRMA HOFFMAN. MS. HOFFMAN, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY TAMMY KEGLEY. THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. UH, MY NAME IS ERMA HOFFMAN FROM THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION. AND, UM, I'M GOING TO MAKE MY MESSAGE SHORT. AND WE ARE ASKING YOU TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHO ARE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY WALKING DOWN COMMERCE, WALKING DOWN GUADALUPE, WALKING DOWN AUSTIN HIGHWAY, MILITARY PARENT, VITAL WALTERS, THE WORKING PEOPLE. AND IN OUR AREA, WE NEED HELP WITH REBUILDING AND REPAIRING OUR HOMES. THESE HOMES HAVE BEEN PASSED ON FROM GREAT GRANDPARENTS TO GRANDPARENTS, AND NOW AGING PARENTS WITH THE GROWN CHILDREN WHO ARE CARING FOR THEM. I, I DID WANNA JUST QUICKLY MENTION AS FAR AS WHEN, UM, MS. SANDOVAL, YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, THE WAGE SITUATION. IT IS, IT IS A CRUCIAL SITUATION, NOT ONLY IN OUR CITY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. JUST THE COMPANIES ARE GIVING, UH, THE PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST PART-TIME EMPLOYMENT SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY BENEFITS. SO I PERSONALLY KNOW A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE JOBS SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE ENDS MEET BECAUSE THEY START 'EM AT 7 25 OR $8 OR $9. UM, I TALK WITH THEM, I MEAN, I, I INTERVIEW THEM AT DOLLAR GENERAL OR AT DOLLAR TREE, VARIOUS PLACES WE CANNOT AFFORD THE RENTS COSTS THAT, UH, THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED THROUGH THIS EPIDEMIC OF MANY APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING BUILT BY THE DEVELOPERS. SO WE ARE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER PROTECTING THE PEOPLE AND PROTECTING THE, THE REAL PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO, YOUR VOTERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. HOFFMAN. TAMMY KEGLEY. [02:10:01] MS. KEGLEY, YOU'D BE FOLLOWED BY KEN BROWN. OH, I'M SORRY. THAT KEN, YOU'RE ON A DIFFERENT ITEM. JACK FINGER, YOU'RE NEXT. HELLO, MY NAME IS TAMMY KEGLEY, 5 0 6 WEST KINGS HIGHWAY, MAYOR NIERENBERG, COUNCIL CITY MANAGER WALSH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TODAY. FORTUNATELY, MY SCHEDULE ALLOWED ME TIME TO DEVOTE TO THIS SUBJECT. I SERVE AS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I'M HERE TO ADD OUR VOICE IN SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN TREVINOS, C C R AND PROPOSED MF 33 RMM FOUR U D C AMENDMENT RECOMMENDATIONS. I WAS THERE IN 2017 WHEN THE C C R AND TASK FORCE WAS ANNOUNCED TO ADDRESS NEGATIVE IMPACTS CREATED AS A RESULT OF THE 2001 U D C CONVERSION PRO PROCESS, WHICH HAS HAD THE EFFECT OF CREATING INCOMPATIBLE ZONING ISSUES IN OUR OLDEST AND MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORHOODS. I ATTENDED MANY OF THE MEETINGS THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AS NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONALS, AND STAFF LABORED TO CREATE GUIDELINES THAT WERE NOT OVERZEALOUS IN TERMS OF REAL WORLD APPLICATION. AND THAT WOULD CREATE PROTECTIONS WHILE ALLOWING FOR THE CREATION OF NEW HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS CALLED THE ART OF COMPROMISE. AND ALL PARTIES INVOLVED GAVE UP VALUABLE TIME AND EFFORT TO THIS COLLABORATION. I WATCHED THREE DAYS AGO AS MIKE SHANNON, ALONG WITH CITY STAFF CONCERNED NEIGHBORS AND COUNCILMAN TREVINO WORKED TO REVISE AMBIGUOUS LANGUAGE REGARDING VACANT LOTS COMING UP WITH THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE PRESENTED. TODAY, I SPEAK FOR A CONCERNED NEIGHBORHOOD, AND PARTICULARLY IN SOLIDARITY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS ON THE WEST SIDE. WHEN I ASK THAT THIS AMENDMENT BE CONSIDERED AND PASSED IN TODAY'S SESSION, WE ARE NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT. WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE TOOLS AT HAND TO CREATE MORE DENSITY IN OUR HISTORIC URBAN CORE, SUCH AS A DUS OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. THE ANSWER ISN'T ALWAYS DEMOLITION, BUT WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION SHOULD EMPLOY BEST CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES AND COMPLIMENT THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW ISN'T JUST AN AESTHETIC CONCERN TO REDUCE IT TO THAT IS DISINGENUOUS. WE ARE LOSING THAT MIDDLE GROUND OF AFFORDABILITY, WHERE MIDDLE CLASS WORKING PEOPLE COULD AFFORD TO RAISE A FAMILY AND GROW OLD, OR THAT HOUSES OUR ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES AND OUR BURGEONING SERVICE INDUSTRY, OR THAT HOUSES OUR STUDENTS ATTENDING OUR UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES, OR OUR ELDERS WHO FACE UNCERTAINTY AND LIMITED CHOICES. ESCALATING TAXES CREATED BY THESE OVERBUILT LOTS OF FULL OF LUXURY HOUSING IS CREATING VERY REAL DEPLACEMENT ISSUES. TODAY'S AMENDMENT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH SINCERITY AND GRATITUDE. I ASK THAT YOU ALL SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. AND REMEMBER IN SAN ANTONIO OUR HISTORY IS OUR FUTURE. LET'S NOT FACE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES. SAN ANTONIO CAN AND WILL DO BETTER. THANK YOU MI. THANK YOU, MS. KEGLEY. JACK FINGER, MAYOR NURNBERG, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M FINGER. I'M GLAD TO, ACTUALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT THIS ORDINANCE AIMS TO TRY AND TIGHTEN UP WHAT APPEARED TO BE SOME LOOPHOLES, SOME MISSING POINTS, AND SO FORTH. UM, YES, YOU, SOME MANY OF YOU SAW JUST A MOMENT AGO WHEN MS. SPIELMAN CAME UP HERE, THE, UH, THE AUDIO VISUAL OF THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE ABOUT, WITH THE ACCOMPANYING PHOTOGRAPH, SHOWING THE GIGANTIC DISPARITY BETWEEN A NORMAL RESIDENTIAL HOUSE AND WHAT I CALL A MONSTROSITY OF A GIGANTIC BUILDING SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO IT. YES. UH, PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY DON'T LIKE HAVING TO SUDDENLY HEAR THE SOUND OF JACK HAMMERS GOING UP, COMING OUT AND FINDING THIS DI THE FRAMEWORK OF A BIG BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAD SOME SPACE TO, TO LOOK OUT AND OF THEIR WINDOW EVERY MORNING. PASSERS BY FELLOW NEIGHBORS DON'T LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY HAVE TO LIVE NEXT TO THIS STUFF. YES. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT. THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING THAT GAVE ME PAUSE WAS THE, I THE EXCEPTION FOR THE VACANT LOT. YOU, ARE YOU ALLOWED TO PUT SOMETHING UP THERE IN, IN VIEW, IN VIEW OF ANYTHING ELSE? [02:15:01] I DON'T KNOW. I I, WELL, ONE WONDERS WHAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THAT REGARD, BUT THIS YES, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT MUCH, MUCH THANKS. NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE LIKE MS. SPIELMAN AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND, AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, THAT GOT TOGETHER AND SAW A BIG PROBLEM HERE AND POINTED IT OUT. AND AT LEAST SOME GOOD ONE GOOD THING WAS DONE BY YOU, THIS CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. FINGER GRACE ROSE GONZALEZ. OKAY. ANISA SHELL, FOLLOWED BY MARY JOHNSON. GOOD MORNING. UM, I'M ANISA SHELL. UH, I LIVE IN TOBIN HILL AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ A SHORT STATEMENT. ON BEHALF OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE, WE ASK YOU TO ADOPT THE R M M F RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE MODIFICATION OF NO 11. TO CLARIFY THE HEIGHT LIMIT, ABUTTING VACANT PROPERTIES LIMITING THE HEIGHT OF MULTI-FAMILY STRUCTURES NEXT TO A SINGLE FAMILY ZONED VACANT LOT CAN DE-INCENTIVIZE THE DEMOLITION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD. IF A DEVELOPER CAN BUILD A HIGHER STRUCTURE NEXT TO A VACANT RESIDENTIAL LOT, THEN THERE IS A REWARD FOR DEMOLISHING A HOME SO THAT THE LOT IS VACANT. THE NEW LANGUAGE GIVES NEIGHBORHOODS REAL PROTECTION AND IS IN KEEPING WITH THE INTENT OF THE C C R. THE VACANT LOT PROTECTION LOWERS THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND POTENTIAL FOR DISPLACEMENT. WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE STRUGGLING WITH ISSUES OF DISPLACEMENT. AS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BECOME SPECULATIVE INVESTMENTS, WE SEEK TO FIND COMPATIBLE AND RESPONSIBLE WAYS TO MEET THE CHALLENGES OF AFFORDABILITY AND DENSITY. POLICIES THAT FACILITATE EXPENSIVE AND INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT INSIDE OUR COMMUNITIES EXACERBATES THE PROBLEMS OF INCOME SEGREGATION AND THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS MARKET RATE, TOO EXPENSIVE FOR THE MOST, FOR MOST OF THE RESIDENTS LIVING IN OUR INNER CITY, INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS. NOW, IF THERE ARE NO CODIFIED PROTECTIONS, THERE IS NO COMP COMMUNITY INPUT. IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS IT OR IT IS APPROPRIATE, DEVELOPERS ALWAYS HAVE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AS RECOURSE. THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS ARE A BALANCED AND THOUGHTFUL CHANGE THAT WILL ADDRESS THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES. THE FUTURE. AS OUTLINED IN THE SA TOMORROW, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TAKES SUPPORT FROM OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. WE ARE WORKING TO MEET THE CHALLENGES OF THE FUTURE BY ENCOURAGING COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, INTENSITY ALONG OUR CORRIDORS, AND ADDED DENSITY THROUGH IDEAS SUCH AS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, AND COMPATIBLE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING ON OUR MULTI-FAMILY LOTS, WE ASK FOR COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROTECT NOT ONLY THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, BUT OUR LEGACY NEIGHBORS AS WELL. PLEASE ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE R M M F TASK FORCE WITH THE LATEST REVISION TODAY. RESPECTFULLY, THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION STEERING COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MICHELLE. MARY JOHNSON. GOOD MORNING. UM, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE MONTE VISTA TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I WAS A MEMBER OF THIS TASK FORCE, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS WAS A VERY DIFFICULT TASK FORCE TO BE ON. THERE WAS A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TABLE. UM, THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE PRESERVATION OF THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE PRESERVATION OF THE MIDDLE HOUSING, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I THINK SAN ANTONIO HAS A CHANCE TO GET IN FRONT OF THAT NOW BY SLOWING DOWN AND STABILIZING THE RAPID DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. AND I JUST WANT, I'M HOPING THAT Y'ALL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. JOHNSON. THAT'S EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP ON ITEM, UH, 27. COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, HERE WE'RE AGAIN, UH, MIKE, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR THE CONTINUED WORK TO, UH, MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD. I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE MANY NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AS WELL AS CITY STAFF, WHO TOGETHER WORKED FOR MONTHS TO REVIEW OUR U D C TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT IMPACT OUR URBAN CORE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. IN 2017, I AUTHORED THIS C C R BASED ON INPUT FROM CONSTITUENTS TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ISSUES NEIGHBORHOODS WERE FACING [02:20:01] REGARDING NEW DEVELOPMENTS. THE WORK OF THE TASK FORCE WAS CRITICAL TO SECURING THE ITEMS OUTLINED IN THE C C R AND CREATED THE LANGUAGE THAT WILL BEGIN TO PROVIDE IMMEDIATE PROTECTIONS. TODAY, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT OFFERS PROTECTION TO NEIGHBORHOODS FROM OUT OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON THE HEIGHT, WHETHER THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR VACANT LOT THE ORIENTATION, ENSURING ALL HOUSING ON THE BLOCK FACE AND ENTRY ON THE STREET AND SETBACKS, DEVELOPMENTS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE, UH, MORE FORWARD OR BACK THAN OTHER HOMES BY RIGHT. THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COALITION, WHICH INCLUDES VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY'S SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT AS ADDITIONAL PROTECTION TO NEIGHBORHOODS FROM LARGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS NEAR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CHANGE AS PRESENTED BY STAFF, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THE IMPACT OF THESE CHANGES, OR, AND OUR OFFICE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH MULTIFAMILY CODE THROUGH THE U D C 2020 AMENDMENT PROCESS WHERE WE'LL ADDRESS THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES ON SINGLE LOTS AS MENTIONED IN MY C C R. THANK YOU ALL. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 27. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. AND SO, UM, THANK YOU, UH, EVERYBODY FOR ALLOWING THIS TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND REALLY FLESH IT OUT. WE DID HAVE A PRETTY LIVELY DISCUSSION IN THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WASN'T, STILL WASN'T CLEAR EVEN AFTER PROBABLY AN HOUR LONG DISCUSSION OF WHAT WE WERE VOTING ON. BUT TODAY, I DO FEEL IT'S CLEAR. UH, AND THAT WAS WHY I WAS RELUCTANT TO BRING IT FORWARD BECAUSE I FELT THAT I, I, I STILL WASN'T SURE WHAT WE WERE VOTING ON, BUT, UM, I, I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE'VE, IT'S BEEN VETTED AND THAT, UM, UH, WE'RE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CONCERNS. UH, AND SO I'M COMFORTABLE DOING IT TODAY. AND SO I DO APPRECIATE, UH, THE LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO GO BACK THROUGH COMMITTEE AND FLESH IT OUT AND NOT HAVE TO MAKE, UH, PRESSING DECISIONS ON THE DAIS, UH, ABOUT ISSUES THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE'S, UM, HOMES. AND, UH, AFTER YESTERDAY'S DISCUSSION, UM, THAT WE HAD IN THE B SESSION, I ALSO FELT LIKE IT BROUGHT A LOT OF CLARITY TO THE ISSUE. UH, I KNOW I HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE IDEA THAT IT WAS, OR THOUGHT THAT IT WAS PROBABLY TOO CHEAP TO DEMOLISH. UM, AND I KNOW THAT AT LEAST IN SOME OF OUR OLDER COMMUNITIES, I'VE HAD RESIDENTS COME TO ME AND SAY IT, I CAN'T AFFORD TO FIX MY HOME ANYMORE. IT'S CHEAPER FOR ME TO JUST DEMOLISH IT AND BUILD A NEW ONE. AND THEY WANNA STAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY DON'T WANNA LEAVE. BUT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, UM, THEY DIDN'T MAINTAIN AND THEY DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH THEIR HOUSE JUST LIKE WE ALL HAVE TO MAINTAIN. UM, AND THEN IT GOT TO A POINT WHERE JUST IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE TO FIX. SO, UH, UM, AND IN, IN SOME SITUATIONS, UH, AS WAS ALSO PRESENTED NOW, THEY ONLY HAD TWO PEOPLE IN THE HOME, OR SOMETIMES EVEN JUST ONE PERSON IN THE HOME. AND THEY FELT LIKE THERE WAS NO NEED TO BE MAINTAINING ALL OF THAT SPACE IF IT WAS JUST FOR ONE PERSON. AND THEN THEY NEEDED A BATHROOM THAT WAS ADAPTABLE FOR, UH, LESS MOBILITY. SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE GETTING MORE CLARITY ON THIS ISSUE AS WE EVOLVE. AND THEN THE FACT THAT NOW WE HAVE TOOLS TO HELP PEOPLE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEMOLISH THEIR HOME. SO PERHAPS WE CAN HELP THEM WITH, UH, MAINTENANCE. AND WE'RE DOING THAT ON A MUCH GRANDER SCALE, UM, THAN I WAS ABLE TO DO LITTLE BY LITTLE, JUST TRYING TO PIECEMEAL SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR MEMBERS OF, OF MY DISTRICT. SO I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD EXERCISE, AND I, I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING MORE DIALOGUE ABOUT HOW WE PREVENT THE DEMOLITION, UH, OF, OF OLD HOMES. UH, AND IN FACT, I'M REMINDED VERY MUCH, THERE WAS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL HOME, UH, THAT WAS IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT IT WAS ON THE BORDER OF, OF OUR DISTRICT. IT WAS VERY GRAND, AND YOU COULD TELL AT ONE TIME HAD PROBABLY BEEN SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL, BUT IT HAD BEEN DECLINING OVER THE YEARS. THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAD BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY, I THINK, WITH SOMEBODY TO HELP RESTORE THAT HOME. AND IN THE PROCESS, IT WAS, IT BURNED AND IT BURNED DOWN, AND WE LOST WHAT, UM, I THINK COULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL. SO I KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH SOME FUNDING FOR HISTORIC HOMES, NOT NECESSARILY IN HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT GAVE A LOT MORE CLARITY IN WHY I'M COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, I'D JUST WANT TO CHECK ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. MIKE. I'D, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW THE HEIGHT, PARTICULARLY THE HEIGHT EFFECT, UH, OF THIS. HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH, UM, OR, OR DOES IT AFFECT OTHER, UH, ZONINGS EITHER ABOVE OR BELOW MF 33? DOES THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION, UH, AFFECT MF 40 OR MF 18 OR 25 IF THEY'RE NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD? I'M [02:25:01] SORRY. UM, YEAH, SO IT WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL, UH, MULTI-FAMILY, UH, INDUSTRIAL, ANY OF THOSE ZONINGS, UH, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD COME DOWN TO THAT 35 LIMIT. IF IT'S WITHIN THAT 50 FOOT MEANING REAL CLOSE TO, UM, THAT, THAT SINGLE FAMILY ZONE. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THE 50 FOOT BUFFER, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, SO, YES. NOW, DOES THAT, UH, ADJACENT, REFERRED TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THE BACKSIDE OF A FENCE, OR IS IT JUST ON EITHER SIDE? UH, IT, IT'S ADJACENT. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, UH, LEFT OR RIGHT. IT COULD BE, UH, IN THE REAR AS WELL. SO ANY, IT'S WITHIN THAT PROPERTY LINE OF AN ADJACENT BACK FRONT, LEFT, OR RIGHT. AND, UH, WHAT ABOUT PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED MF 33? UH, ARE THERE CERTAIN, UH, ABILITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE GRANDFATHERED, WE OWN THIS PROPERTY, IT WAS ZONED THIS BEFORE WE STARTED A DEVELOPMENT? SURE. SO YOU'LL HAVE TWO SCENARIOS. YOU'LL HAVE, UM, A, UH, MAYBE A, A 45 FOOT STRUCTURE ALREADY THERE. UH, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OF THEM. THOSE WOULD BECOME NON-CONFORMING. UH, THOSE ARE GRANDFATHERED AS IS. UH, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EXPAND UNDER THE TRADITIONAL NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE RULES. WE HAVE THAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY ON ANY TYPE OF GRANDFATHERED, UH, STRUCTURE OR GRANDFATHERED USE. SO WE HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF THOSE RULES. UH, SO THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO STAY. THEY'RE TOTALLY LEGAL. WE CALL THAT LEGAL NON-CONFORMING. IF YOU HAD A, UH, A VACANT PROPERTY, MF 33, AND THEY, UH, THEY WOULD BE BUILT TO THIS HEIGHT IF THEY WANTED TO, UH, GET A VARIANCE FOR THAT, IT WOULD BE THE OPEN PROCESS WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE NOTIFIED THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO SCENARIOS. BUT THEY'D BE, UH, QUALIFIED FOR A VARIANCE BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY HAD EXISTED BEFORE THIS CHANGE WAS MADE? NO, THAT, NO, THAT, UH, THEY, THEY WOULD BE ZONED MF 33. SO THEY WOULD BE BY RIGHT. THEY WOULD ALLOW UP TO 35 FEET IF THEY WANTED MORE. THEY'RE NOT GRANDFATHERED. OKAY. UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WHICH IS THE OPEN PROCESS WHERE EVERYBODY WITHIN 200 FEET, SIMILAR TO A ZONING CASE, THEY WOULD BE NOTIFIED AND THERE WOULD BE PUBLIC INPUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS ALL OF MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS. THANK YOU. TWO THINGS. UM, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO LISTEN TO JOHN COURAGE, BE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WEARING THAT HAT , TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. UH, UM, I, I, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I, I'LL SUPPORT THIS. UM, I GET IT. I REALLY DO. I, I'M CONCERNED HOWEVER, THAT, UM, IT WON'T BE TOO LONG BEFORE WE COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS ISSUE, UM, AND MAY EVEN UNDO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. UM, SIMPLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DENSITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING PRESCRIBED TO US IN ORDER TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC, RIGHT? AND, UH, IT'S PART OF THE, UH, THE MOBILITY SOLUTION. UM, AND THAT IS TO GET PEOPLE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY CLOSER TO RIGHT EACH OTHER. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THESE REGIONAL CENTERS, UM, ARE A GOOD IDEA. AND, UH, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE DENSITY IN THESE CENTERS. UH, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT I, I THINK THAT, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, UM, THAT WE REFRAIN FROM, FROM HYPERBOLIZING, UH, AND 'CAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T HELP, RIGHT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, TODAY, I, I HEARD YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THAT ART, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO ARTIFICIALLY DENSIFY, OR THAT THIS NEED FOR DENSIFICATION IS AN ARTIFICIAL, UH, THING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SOMEHOW WE'RE PLAYING THE DENSITY CARD OR, UM, THE SPRAWL CARD. THESE AREN'T CARDS. YESTERDAY WE HAD A GENTLEMAN STAND IN FRONT OF US TO TALK TO US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEEDED TO DO IN ORDER TO, UM, I MEAN, LORI, LORI HOUSTON, AND, AND I FORGET THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME, RIGHT? BUT, UM, YEAH, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DENSITY, AS YOU KNOW, THE PRESCRIPTION FOR, YOU KNOW, FIXING MANY OF THE CHALLENGES THAT FACE US. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, 1.1 MILLION PEOPLE ARE COMING RIGHT OVER THE NEXT TWO DECADES, AND THEY'RE SHOWING UP WITH THEIR CARS AND THEIR PROBLEMS AND THEIR NEEDS. THEY'RE JUST NOT SHOWING UP WITH THEIR ROADS AND THERE'S OWN SOLUTIONS. AND SO IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO PLAN FOR ABSORPTION OF THAT CROWD, RIGHT? UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE. AND THE CHOICE IS EITHER THEY'RE GONNA LIVE CLOSER TO WHERE THEY WORK, UM, OR THEY'RE GONNA LIVE FAR, FAR AWAY. AND THERE THEREBY CREATING MORE TRAFFIC ON 37, 35, 90 I 10. UM, THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANYBODY. SO, UH, I, I DO ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WIELDING A A VERY BROAD BRUSH AND SAYING THAT ONLY SLUMLORDS WILL LOOK TO VACANT, YOU KNOW, LOTS, UM, THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND, AND IT DOESN'T HELP ANYBODY TO, YOU KNOW, SHOW UP WITH A HIGH HORSE WITH A BIG BRUSH LIKE THAT. AND, UM, I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US LIVES [02:30:01] IN A HOME THAT WAS BUILT BY A BUILDER IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY SOMEBODY. UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL END WITH REMINDING YOU THAT THE REAL PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO INCLUDE THE 47% OF THE PEOPLE WHO RENT. UM, AND THE REAL PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN APARTMENTS. AND SO IT SMACKS OF ELITISM WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE EXCLUDE THEM FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION AND, YOU KNOW, DISCOUNT THEM AS PEOPLE, THOSE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE KIND OF UNDESIRABLE. AND SO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAREFUL AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REMEM WE REMEMBER THAT IT'S NOT JUST HOMEOWNERS WE REPRESENT, BUT THAT IT'S RENTERS AS WELL. SO, UH, WITH THAT, I, I, I WILL SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PAL. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, MAYOR, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN TREVINO FOR DOING THIS IN ADVANCE TO ME GETTING HERE. THIS IS GREAT TO BE HERE AND BE ABLE TO, UM, SUPPORT THIS WITH YOU. I CAN TRULY SAY THE DISTRICT, TOO IS, IS VERY HISTORIC. NOT ONLY IN JUST THE HOUSES THAT WE HAVE THERE, IT'S ALSO THE CEMETERIES AND THE FOUNDATIONS IN WHICH A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES ARE BUILT ON. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE SEEN THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF DISPLACEMENT AND LEG LEGACY FAMILIES TRULY UPROOTED BASED ON THE FACT OF LAND VALUES AND PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH HAVE TRIPLED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA KEEP A UNIFORMITY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY IS TRULY WHAT WE'RE ELECTED TO DO. AND SO, AS WE LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE STAND WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY IS IT UNIFORM, BUT THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY MEETING THE DENSITY THAT WE'RE NEEDING WITHIN THESE AREAS TO BRING RESTAURANTS, TO BRING HOSPITALS, TO BRING THE NECESSARY AMENITIES THAT THEY NEED IN THAT AREA AS WELL. AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO IT WITHIN AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE CALL HOME, WHICH IS THEIR PEACE. WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT THAT AT ALL COSTS. AND SO I TRULY SUPPORT, UM, THIS COMING FORWARD TO BE A STAPLE OF WHAT WE CAN DO WHEN WE REALLY WORK TOGETHER. SO, THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TREVINO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 27. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, LONG ITEMS TO GET TO YET. UM, THE TIME IS 1143. WE DO HAVE ALSO A LUNCHEON, UH, IN WHICH WE HAVE SEVERAL GUESTS WHO HAVE ALREADY ARRIVED. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS BREAK, UH, BRIEFLY FOR LUNCH, UH, AND TO HAVE OUR CEREMONIALS. SO WE'LL BREAK RIGHT NOW. TIME IS 1144. WE WILL RECONVENE AT 1220 BACK IN THE CHAMBERS TO RESUME OUR A SESSION AGENDA. THANK YOU. CITY COUNCIL'S RECONVENED FROM ITS RECESS. TIME IS 12:34 PM WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND START. UM, BACK, WE HAVE A BRIEF ITEM ON ITEM, UH, ITEM 40 [40. Approving the following items related to the renovation of the Alameda Theater: [Lori Houston, Assistant City Manager; John Jacks, Director, Center City Development and Operations]] WILL BE BRIEF. SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT ITEM FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 38. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND HEAR ITEM 40. ITEM 40 IS AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND A CLIMATE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO IMPLEMENT THE SA CLIMATE READY PLAN. AND SINCE SETTING THE CITIZENS' ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE YOU THIS, UH, PRESENTATION. UH, THIS STEMS FROM THE, UH, ADOPTION OF THE ESSAY CLIMATE READY PLAN, UH, THIS PAST OCTOBER, AND, UH, INCLUDES TWO, UH, POTENTIAL ACTIONS AS PART OF THIS ORDINANCE, AS WAS MENTIONED, UH, SUNSET THE CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ESTABLISHING TWO NEW ADVISORY COMMITTEES AS PER THE CLIMATE PLAN. SO, C A C WAS, UM, UH, CREATED BACK IN APRIL, UH, OF 2009, UH, UNDER MAYOR HARBERGER. AS A RESULT OF THE, UH, MISSION VERDE PLAN, UH, IT'S COMPRISED OF 10, UH, MEMBERS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND, AND ONE, UH, MAYOR ORAL APPOINTEE. THE PURPOSE OF CAC WAS, UH, TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY ADVANCING THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO MISSION VERDE PLAN INTO THE FUTURE. AND SO, AS WE STARTED, UM, THIS PAST LATE OCTOBER, UH, DETERMINING THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, UH, CREATING THESE TWO NEW ADVISORY COMMITTEES, AS PER THE, THE CLIMATE PLAN, WE REALLY BEGAN TO SEE THERE WAS A, A LOT OF OVERLAP, UM, UH, BETWEEN, UH, THE MISSION OF CIAC AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR FOR THESE TWO NEW COMMITTEES. UM, MISSION VERDE, UM, HAD BEEN REVIEWED THOROUGHLY, UM, AS WE DEVELOPED THE SA TOMORROW, UH, SUSTAINABILITY PLANS AND INCORPORATED [02:35:01] MANY OF THOSE ELEMENTS. AND, UH, THE CLIMATE PLAN ALSO INCLUDES, UM, UH, MANY OF THE, UH, THE, THE SUSTAINABILITY AND, UH, ENERGY RELATED ITEMS WITHIN, WITHIN THAT CLIMATE PLAN. SO, UM, IT, IT SEEMS, IN TERMS OF EFFICIENCY, UM, UH, FOR STAFF, FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS LOOKING TO BE INVOLVED, UH, THAT IT WAS A, UM, UH, PROBABLY THE MOST PRUDENT THING TO, TO SUNSET, CIAC AND REESTABLISH, UH, TWO NEW ADVISORY COMMITTEES. WE'VE MADE A VERY CLEAR TO THE CIAC MEMBERS, UH, AND ARE ENCOURAGING THEM TO, UH, TO GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THESE TWO NEW COMMITTEES, UM, IF THEY'D CONTINUE TO, TO, TO BE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING TO SERVE. SO ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WE REALLY WANTED TO, UM, SET WERE SOME KEY GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UM, FOR THESE ADVISORY COMMITTEES. IF WE REMEMBER THE CLIMATE PLAN, UM, UH, HAD A LOT GOING ON. IT HAD MITIGATION, IT HAD ADAPTATION, UH, BUT IT REALLY HAD EQUITY, UM, AND DIVERSITY AT ITS CORE. SO, UM, WE, WE REALLY WANTED TO, TO, TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR FOR, UM, UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. WE WANTED PEOPLE WITH TECHNICAL EXPERTISE. UM, IF WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS WE IMPLEMENT THE PLAN, WE NEED EXPERTS, UM, IN, IN THAT AREA. UM, WE WANT MULTIPLE, UM, PERSPECTIVES FROM ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. WE DON'T WANT JUST ONE VOICE, UM, UH, UH, UH, BEING HEARD. AND WE REALLY WANT A GROUP THAT CAN WORK TOWARDS SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES. UM, WE KNOW THAT, THAT THERE'S A, A, UM, THERE'S A LOT ON THE TABLE WITH THE PLAN, AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AS A, AS A COMMUNITY. SO WE REALLY WANT MEMBERS WHO, WHO REFLECT THAT. AND THEN FINALLY, IT'S AGAIN, THE CITY HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO, TO REALLY CENTERING ALL OF OUR WORK AT EQUITY. AND SO WE REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. UM, AGAIN, DIVERSITY AND EQUITY ARE KEY WHEN WE START, UM, IDENTIFYING INDIVIDUALS FOR, UH, THESE COMMITTEES. SO THE FIRST COMMITTEE THAT WE WERE PROPOSING IS, IS A TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UH, THE MISSION IS TO ADVISE CITY STAFF AND, AND CITY COUNCIL ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF, OF THE CLIMATE PLAN. UM, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE CLIMATE PLAN, IT'S, IT'S ALSO OTHER, UM, UH, SUSTAINABILITY RELATED PLANS SUCH AS SA TOMORROW. UH, WE WOULD ALSO LOOK TO THESE INDIVIDUALS AS, AS EXPERTS IN, IN WATER, IN AIR, IN, IN OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY, UM, UH, THE, THE KEY THING TO, TO REALLY GO BACK AND REMEMBER ABOUT THE CLIMATE PLAN IS IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT CLIMATE. UM, IT'S ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S ABOUT WHERE WE WANT TO BE. IT'S ABOUT OUR COMMUNITIES, PUBLIC HEALTH, UM, AND WELFARE AND WELLBEING. AND, UM, UH, CLIMATE IS A, IS AN UMBRELLA. UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THOSE IMPORTANT, UM, TECHNICAL AREAS THAT WE, WE NEED AND THOSE PERSPECTIVES. UM, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THESE MEMBERS TO REALLY HELP US WITH ENGAGEMENT. THAT'S A, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ROLES WE NEED TO TAP INTO THEIR, THEIR NETWORKS. UM, WE NEED TO REALLY CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD. WE NEED THEM TO, UH, LOOK AT THE LATEST SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION, UM, WORK WITH, UH, CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT SAYS. UM, AND, UH, DELIVER REPORTS, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY AND CITY COUNCIL ON PROGRESS. UM, WHAT'S WORKING WELL, WHAT'S NOT WORKING WELL, UM, AND HOW DO WE NEED TO ADJUST? SO HERE, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, A TOTAL OF 21 MEMBERS. UM, AND IT DOES SEEM LIKE A LARGE GROUP WHEN YOU, BUT WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN, WE ARE PROPOSING SIX ORGANIZATIONAL MEMBERS. UM, AND, AND YOU CAN SEE WE'RE LOOKING FOR REPRESENTATIVES FROM C P S SAWS VIA THE RIVER AUTHORITY, UM, J B S A, AS WELL AS, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT'S FOCUSING ON EQUITY, UM, BUT THEN 15 AT LARGE MEMBERS. AND WE LANDED ON THAT, THAT NUMBER BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN, WE IDENTIFIED DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT, UM, FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE, THE PLAN. UM, THERE'S MORE THAN 15. UM, I, I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT, UM, AN INDIVIDUAL MAY, MAY TICK NUMEROUS BOXES. UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE A BUSINESS THAT'S EXPERIENCED IN ENERGY GENERATION. UM, THAT'S GREAT. UM, BUT I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS A GUIDE. UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, THERE'S AREAS OF TECHNICAL EXPERTISE. THERE'S INSTITUTIONS PUBLIC HEALTH, BUT WE ALSO WANT NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY, AND ALSO, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL SOCIAL CLIMATE AND RACIAL JUSTICE, UM, FOLKS. SO IT'S, IT'S A, UH, THE KEY IS GONNA BE BALANCING ALL OF THAT. UM, AND WHEN WE GO THROUGH OUR REVIEW PROCESS, IT'S REALLY ALSO GONNA BE LOOKING AT, WHILE THEY ARE AT LARGE MEMBERS, WE DO WANNA LOOK AT GEOGRAPHY. WE DO WANT TO LOOK AT AGE DISTRIBUTION. SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A, A VERY THOROUGH PROCESS TO ASSESS, UM, HOW WE COME UP WITH THE, THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS. SO ON THE EQUITY SIDE, UM, THIS GROUP IS REALLY GOING TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS CLIMATE EQUITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. DURING THE, THE CLIMATE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, IT BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT EQUITY AND CLIMATE EQUITY IS A, IS A BIG, UM, UM, A BIG TOPIC. UH, AND I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF LEARNING THAT NEEDS TO, TO, TO BE, UH, TO, TO BE HAD. SO WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MISSION OF THIS IS TO REALLY, UM, HELP IMPLEMENT, UM, THE CLIMATE PLAN, TO ENSURE AN EQUITY CENTERED APPROACH. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK THERE, BUT BASICALLY IT'S, IT'S [02:40:01] SIMILAR TO THE OTHER GROUP. THEY'RE PROVIDING, UH, INPUTS, UM, TO CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, STAFF AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON, ON IMPLEMENTATION, REALLY MAKING SURE THAT AS, AS WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE DOING, UM, HELPING US WITH, WITH METRICS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, UH, AN EQUITY, UM, FOCUSED ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. UM, HOW DO WE TRACK, UH, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE BEING SUCCESSFUL IN IMPLEMENTING THIS PLAN, UH, FROM THAT EQUITY EQUITY LENS. UM, ALSO LOOKING FOR THEM TO, TO PROVIDE REPORTS TO THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL FROM THAT EQUITY SIDE. UM, HOW ARE WE DOING, UM, IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT MAY BE HELPING REDUCE OUR CARBON EMISSIONS, BUT IT'S NOT HELPING, UM, ADDRESS SOME OF THE MAJOR, UM, EQUITY ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE SHOULD RETHINK HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. UM, AND THEN AGAIN, HELPING US TAP INTO THE BROADER, UM, COMMUNITY NETWORKS THAT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM WE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I THINK NOT ONLY DO WE WANT MORE THAN THE USUAL SUB SU SUSPECTS AROUND THE TABLE, UM, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ENGAGEMENT GOES BEYOND THOSE THAT WE'VE HEARD TO DATE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, UM, PROPOSED, UM, UH, STRUCTURE FOR THE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 11 MEMBERS REALLY FOCUSED ON, UH, COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND THOSE STAKEHOLDERS THAT REPRESENTS, UH, THE, THE INTEREST OF, OF LOW-INCOME POPULATIONS, COMMUNITY OF COLOR, AND, UM, MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS. UM, BOTH OF THESE COMMITTEE COMMITTEES WILL BE SELECTED, UM, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN A, IN A SECOND, UM, BASED UPON A REVIEW OF, OF, OF APPLICATIONS BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UM, THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND THE OFFICE OF EQUITY WITH, UM, CONSULTATION AND COORDINATION WITH THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE. UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UM, ON, ON THE RIGHT, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT MORE SORT OF COMMUNITY, UM, ORIENTED, UM, UH, FOCAL AREAS, UM, SOCIAL JUSTICE, CLIMATE JUSTICE, RACIAL JUSTICE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FOOD SECURITY, UM, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, UM, BUSINESSES. I, I THINK BUSINESSES HAVE A PLACE ON IT AS LONG AS THEY'RE BRINGING THE PERSPECTIVE AND, AND REPRESENTING, UM, THOSE GROUPS THAT WE IDENTIFIED AT THE, THE TOP OF THAT GREEN BO BOX. I THINK WE JUST DON'T WANT ANY, ANYBODY THERE. IT'S GOTTA BE THE RIGHT PEOPLE WHO CAN REALLY ADD TO THE CONVERSATION. SO BASICALLY, THIS IS JUST A, A REAL HIGH LEVEL TIMELINE. UH, IN THIS PAST NOVEMBER, WE'VE PRESENTED THIS, UH, APPROACH TO COMMUNITY HEALTH AND, AND, AND EQUITY, UM, AND BEGAN DEVELOPING, UH, WHAT THE APPLICATION WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, UH, FOLLOWING, UM, THE OUTCOME OF TODAY, IF, IF SUCCESSFUL, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH, UM, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND, AND IT, TO GET THE APPLICATION, UM, UH, POSTED AND AVAILABLE, UM, SO PEOPLE CAN START SUBMITTING, UH, THEN THROUGH JANUARY. UM, WE WILL WORK WITH, AT THE STAFF LEVEL WITH COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY TO BEGIN EVALUATING, UH, THE DIFFERENCE, UM, UH, APPLICATIONS, UH, AND THEN COME BACK IN FEBRUARY TO THE FULL, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE WITH, WITH SOME INITIAL STAFF, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT WORK THROUGH, UM, UH, A FINAL SLATE THAT, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE WOULD PROPOSE BRINGING TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. UM, AND, AND THAT'D BE IN FEBRUARY. AND AT THE SAME TIME, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE INTERESTED IN DOING IS CURRENTLY TALKING TO POTENTIAL FACILITATORS, UM, WHO WE COULD BRING ON, UM, PRIOR TO THAT FIRST ROUND OF MEETINGS, UH, CURRENTLY TENTATIVELY FOCUSED FOR, FOR MARCH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, SET SOME REALLY SOLID PROCEDURES, EXPECTATIONS, UM, UH, GOVERNANCE, UM, STRUCTURES FOR THESE, UH, COMMITTEES TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THEY WORK EFFECTIVELY. UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDINGS IN TERMS OF ROLES OR PROCESS, UH, FURTHER DOWN THE, DOWN THE ROAD. AND SO, KEY TO THIS PROCESS IS, IS HAVING A REALLY STRONG POOL OF, OF APPLICANTS. AND SO, UH, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE APPLICATION, BUT THE APPLICATION MATERIALS NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR. UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE A VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS AND AND COMMITMENTS, UM, ARE FOR MEMBERSHIP. THE MATERIALS NEED TO BE BILINGUAL. WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH MEDIA OUTLETS, UM, TARGETING OUT OUTREACH TO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, CHAMBERS, UNIVERSITIES, EQUITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE ORGANIZATIONS, AND OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS. THE OTHER KEY THING IS, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IN TALKING TO, UM, THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, THE APPLICATION PROCESS CAN BE BURDENSOME AND CONFUSING. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE PROPOSING IS PROVIDING STAFF HOURS WHERE WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME IN AND NEEDS ASSISTANCE. UM, BASICALLY JUST FILLING OUT THE APPLICATION AND ALSO BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE IDEA OF GOING TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT GROUPS. UM, AND, AND, AND, UM, UH, SIMILAR TO, UH, C P SS WILL HAVE THEIR ENERGY FAIR. DO WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, AN APPLICATION FAIR WHERE WE CAN JUST GO AND SAY WE'RE GONNA BE THERE FOR TWO HOURS, UH, AT A COMMUNITY CENTER OR A LIBRARY, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THAT WILL BE BASED UPON, UM, INTEREST AND, AND STAFF CAPACITY. AND SO FINALLY, UM, WE'RE STARTING WITH THE STANDARD CITY APPLICATION. [02:45:01] UM, UH, WE, UM, ARE PROPOSING TO ADD, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION JUST DIRECTLY FOR THE, FOR THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY. AND WE, WE STILL NEED TO WORK WITH, WITH THE CITY CLERK ON, ON THE DETAILS WITH THIS, BUT JUST MAKING SURE IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS, THEY KNOW DIRECTLY WHERE TO GO TO GET THOSE, THOSE ANSWERS RELATED TO SOME OF THE APPLICATION QUESTIONS. UM, WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, ADDING SOME EQUITY FRAMING LANGUAGE RIGHT AT THE FRONT, UM, SORT OF REAFFIRMING THE CITY'S COMMITMENTS TO, UM, CENTERING OUR WORK ON EQUITY AND THEN ADDING ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UM, SUCH AS, BASED UPON THOSE LISTS OF THAT WE HAD PROVIDED EARLIER IN THE, THE SLIDE DECK, UM, ASKING APPLICANTS TO IDENTIFY, WELL, WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU, YOU FIT? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU BRINGING TO THE TABLE? ARE YOU REPRESENTING A NEIGHBORHOOD? ARE YOU REPRESENTING A, A CERTAIN TECHNICAL EXPERTISE? UM, BUT THEN ALSO HAVING PEOPLE DESCRIBE AND EXPLAIN, WELL, PLEASE LET US KNOW HOW, HOW YOU MEET THOSE, THOSE CRITERIA AS WELL AS YOUR PROFESSIONAL AND EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE. WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY PEOPLE WANNA SERVE ON THESE COMMITTEES. UM, WE ALSO, UM, SINCE AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO THE IDEA OF EQUITY, WE WANT TO, UM, UNDERSTAND, UM, APPLICANT'S INTEREST AND COMMITMENT TO, UH, RACIAL ECONOMIC JUSTICE AND EQUITY ISSUES. AND WE'LL BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, UM, AS, AS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL UNDERSTAND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AS, AS ROBUST A PROCESS AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN FINALLY, WE, UM, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BARRIERS ARE FOR, UM, UH, SOMEBODY'S, UM, PARTICIPATION. AND SO THERE WILL BE A SERIES OF, OF JUST BOXES. IS IT, IS IT CHILDCARE? IS IT TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO, UH, MEETINGS? IS IT THE TIME OF MEETINGS? UM, THE MORE THAT WE KNOW, WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS WE CAN BEGIN TO, TO ADDRESS THEM? AND THEN FINALLY, WE WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, UM, FOR THOSE, UM, UH, APPLICANTS. AND SO IT'S A, PUTTING IT RIGHT ON THE APPLICATION, IT'S AGREEING TO, UH, ATTEND QUARTERLY MEETINGS. IT'S COMMITTING TO, UM, UH, PARTICIPATE IN AN ANNUAL JOINT RETREAT WITH, WITH THE OTHER COMMITTEE. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S A COORDINATION BETWEEN THE EQUITIES FOLKS AND THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY FOLKS. UM, WE WANT TO, TO HAVE, UM, THE OFFICE OF EQUITY HELP FACILITATE SOME SORT OF EQUITY TRAINING, UH, WITH OUR, OUR BOARD MEMBERS, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, UH, AND AGAIN, ASSISTING WITH ENGAGEMENT AND WORKING TOWARDS SUCCESSFUL ASSETS, SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES. SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE, UH, KNOWS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING FROM THEM AS WE GO FORWARD. UH, SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THIS, THIS ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING, UH, THESE TWO NEW ADVISORY COMMITTEES, UM, AS PER SA, CLIMATE READY AND SUNSETTING THE CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. GREAT. THANK YOU, DOUG. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, THANK YOU, DOUG. UH, YOU'VE CLEARLY, UH, THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THIS AND GOTTEN SOME INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, AND OTHER FOLKS OUTSIDE. SO, UH, I, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY I SIT ON A SUBCOMMITTEE WITH COUNCILWOMAN ROCHE GARCIA, WHERE WE REVIEW BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE THIS VERY, UH, VAST AND THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO ACHIEVING WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE. SO I HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS, AND WHICH NO DOUBT WILL, WILL BE MET BY YOU AND, AND THE WHOLE TEAM PUTTING THIS FORWARD. SO I CONGRATULATE YOU. THANK YOU ON, ON THAT. UM, I, UH, I WANTED TO ASK SPECIFICALLY, WHEN WILL THE APPLICATION PROCESS OPEN? SO I THINK FOLLOWING, UM, TODAY, UM, WE'LL WORK WITH, UH, THE CITY CLERK, UH, AS WELL AS IT, UM, TO, UM, UH, GET THE APPLICATION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. UM, I HEARD IT COULD TAKE TWO WEEKS. WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN EXPEDITE THAT. I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS WE HAVE GOT THE WINTER BREAK, UM, COMING UP, SO I THINK THAT'LL BE THE, IDEALLY, I WAS HOPING TO GET IT UP AND RELEASED BEFORE WE LEFT FOR THE WINTER BREAK, BUT I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE TECHNICAL, UM, CONSTRAINTS. SO HOW LONG ARE YOU PLANNING TO HAVE THE PROCESS OPEN, THE APPLICATION OPEN? SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN REVIEWING APPLICATIONS AFTER A MONTH. SO, UM, IN JANUARY. UM, I DON'T THINK WE NECESSARILY NEED TO CLOSE IT. I, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME MM-HMM. AND CONTINUED OUTREACH TO GET THAT POOL, UM, POOL OF CANDIDATES, BUT, UM, MINIMUM OF A MONTH TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A, A, A REASONABLE NUMBER OF, OF APPLICANTS. OKAY. I, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD WINDOW. UM, I WANTED TO RECOMMEND, AND MAYBE YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THIS ON YOUR, ON YOUR TO-DO LIST, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA CAST A WIDE NET AS YOU SAID. SO I, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL THOUSAND SURVEYS FILLED OUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS, UH, OF THE PLAN. SO PERHAPS, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE, UH, WHO FILLED OUT A SURVEY ARE AWARE THAT, THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY IS COMING UP, UH, ALONG WITH EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLAN AND POSSIBLY PROMOTING THIS ON, UH, WEBSITES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH GREEN JOBS OR IDEALISTS, WHERE WE MIGHT GET [02:50:01] A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT GROUP BEYOND THE USUAL SUSPECTS, AS, AS YOU SAID. ABSOLUTELY. WE, UM, ANYBODY WHO'S EVER TAKEN A SURVEY HAS HAD THAT, THAT, UM, THEIR EMAIL, UH, ENTERED INTO OUR, OUR DATABASE. SO WE WERE PLANNING ON SENDING, IT'S, IT'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, UM, OVER THE, UM, FOR, FOR THAT WE'VE COLLECTED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. AS WELL AS, I THINK THE OTHER KEY THING IS REALLY LOOKING FOR, UM, WORKING THROUGH COUNCIL OFFICES, WHO ARE THE FOLKS THAT WE SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTING THIS TO AS WELL. SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BE SORT OF ALL HANDS ON DECK TO MAKE SURE THE WORD GETS OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT YES, WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE, THE, THE MAILING LISTS THAT WE HAVE. GREAT. AND THEN, UM, LETICIA, DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A LIST OF EVERYONE WHO'S EVER APPLIED FOR A BORDER COMMISSION? WE CAN CHECK WITH IT TO SEE IF THAT'S STORED WITHIN THE DATABASE? UH, DEFINITELY. AND IF SO, WE WILL LET YOU KNOW. OKAY. WELL, UH, IF NOT FOR THIS TIME, SOMETHING FOR FUTURE, UH, RECRUITMENTS. AND, UM, I, YOU TALKED ABOUT MAKING THE APPLICATION, UH, BILINGUAL. UM, ARE YOU, UH, DO YOU HAVE PLANS TO PROMOTE IN THE SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY OR, OR, AND HOW WILL YOU DO THAT? AND THAT, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I'VE BEGUN TALKING TO SOME OF OUR, UM, UH, ADVOCATES, UM, WHO ARE, I THINK ARE, ARE VERY WELL CONNECTED INTO THAT COMMUNITY, COME UP WITH IDEAS, WHAT ARE THE BEST WAYS TO DO THAT. UM, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO TALK MORE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THOSE AVENUES MM-HMM. , UM, TO, TO ADDRESS. I THINK WORKING WITH G P A I, I THINK WE JUST, AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS JUST PUTTING IT OUT. UM, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL. SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS AND, AND, AND GET SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT. OKAY. UM, HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU AFTERWARD, UH, WITH, WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO THANK, SORRY, I JUST SAW Z I KNOW THAT SHE CONTRIBUTED A LOT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT TRAINING FOR, FOR EVERYONE ONCE THEY DO COME ON BOARD. SO, UH, WITH THAT, I, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 40. COUNCIL MEMBER CURRY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, AND THANK YOU, DOUG. I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH YOU. I'M SURE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO, UM, APPOINT OR HAVE SOMEBODY BE, UH, THE ORIGINATOR TO START THE COMMITTEE, GOING TO BE LIKE A COACH OR SOMETHING. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE WERE, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CLIMATE PLAN WAS, UM, THE CONSULTANT THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH WHILE EXPERIENCED IN CLIMATE PLANNING, UM, DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE FACILITATION SKILLS, UM, TO ADDRESS A BOARD DYNAMIC. AND SO I THINK, UM, THAT THE KEY IS AT A MINIMUM, AT THE START, AT THE STARTING POINT OF THIS PROCESS, HAVING SOMEBODY WHO'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UM, BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, GOVERNANCE STRUCTURES, UM, IDEALLY SOMEBODY WITH EQUITY, UM, EXPERIENCE AS WELL, JUST TO SET, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A PROCESS WHERE ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE, UM, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES CAN HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SOLID FOUNDATION OF UNDERSTANDING MOVING FORWARD. BECAUSE I THINK IF THAT, IF WE DON'T GET THAT RIGHT, I, IT'LL CLEARLY COME BACK TO HAUNT US. WELL, I UNDERSTAND. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO START ANY COMMITTEE. UH, WILL THE COMMITTEE BE CHOOSING ITS OWN LEADERSHIP, ITS OWN CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR? I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SECRETARY, WHATEVER. I THINK THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION. UM, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE, UH, THE, THERE WOULD BE A FACILITATED DISCUSSION FOR THE GROUP TO DETERMINE WHAT, WHAT'S THE IDEAL GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE. I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY THOUGH, I THINK WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE BACK TO THOSE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT THE ROLE IS OF THAT, UM, COMMITTEE. UM, IT'S TO ADVISE, UM, CITY STAFF, BUT I THINK HOW THEY ORGANIZE IS, IS, WILL BE, UH, OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE AT THE TIME, THE FACILITATOR BRIEFS THE COMMITTEE ARE, ARE REALLY IN ADVANCE OF THAT. WHAT IS THE CHARGE THEY'RE GOING TO LAY OUT? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DESCRIBE THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES? AND I'LL TELL YOU, MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT MANY PEOPLE SAY, OH, IT'S, IT'S A CUT. IT'S A CUT DEAL. IT ALREADY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. THEY'VE GOT SOMEBODY OUT THERE FROM THE CITY WHO'S GONNA GIVE 'EM THE DIRECTION THEY WANT IT TO GO IN. SO I WANNA SEE WHAT THAT CHARGE IS GOING TO BE FROM THE FACILITATOR TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. UH, NOT THAT I, I BELIEVE WHAT I'VE HEARD, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, I'VE SEEN HOW THEY'VE PUT THIS TOGETHER AND, AND HOW THEY ARE ORGANIZED. AND I THINK IT'S VERY FAIR AND OPEN PROCEDURE. YES, SIR. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO KNOW IS, ARE THESE MEETINGS GOING TO BE TELEVISED? YES. I THINK [02:55:01] THAT THAT'S THE INTENT CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE PROTOCOL THAT WE ESTABLISH AS A PART OF THE PLAN, PLAN DEVELOPMENT, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE, UM, THEY ARE BROAD BROADCAST AND RECORDED AND PUBLICIZED. OKAY. AND, AND THE OTHER, UM, THEY WOULD, I'M SORRY, SIR. UM, THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, DOUG. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU DOUG, UH, FOR STOPPING BY MY OFFICE AND FOR LISTENING TO ME AND FOR TRYING TO IMPLEMENT A LOT OF THE ITEMS, UM, THAT I RECOMMENDED ON THERE. I'M VERY HAPPY AND I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL ON MAKING SURE THAT OUR APPOINTMENTS ARE DIVERSE. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. UM, THE SUN OF THE C A C. YES. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OFFER SOME GUIDANCE TO THE COUNCIL? WELL, I THINK THAT THE FIRST THING THAT WE, WE HAD JUST HAD A MEETING WITH, WITH C A C LAST WEEK. THE FIRST THING THAT WE HAD HAD LET THEM KNOW IS WE STILL WANT TO MEET WITH THEM TO, TO, UM, TO CAPTURE WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW AND CAPTURE SOME OF THE LESSONS LEARNED, UM, WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T WORK. UM, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM THEM APPLYING, UM, AND MAY OR MAY NOT BE SELECTED, UM, I THINK THE OTHER OPTION IS, UH, THE ORDINANCE DOES, UM, GIVE THE, UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEES THE ABILITY TO CREATE ADDITIONAL, UM, SUBCOMMITTEES. AND SO, UH, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME MEMBERS OF CEC WHO WERE VERY INTERESTED IN WATER, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO PLUG IN TO A, UH, A WATER SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. SO I THINK THE KEY IS MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE, UM, UM, OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THE CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING ON, AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO PLUG IN. GREAT. THANK YOU, DOUG, BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM ENGAGE. I HOPE WE KNOW, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF STRONG REPRESENTATIVES ON THERE. MY REPRESENTATIVES IS ELIZABETH MONTGOMERY AND SHE IS, UH, SIMPLY AMAZING AND I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE ENGAGING HER. YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UM, SEVERAL MEMBERS HERE LAST NIGHT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. WE HAD, UH, CHRISTIE ANO OF SS E O OF THE WEST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND I WAS VERY EXCITED. SHE WAS THE ONLY BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE HERE. UM, AND SO I'D, I'D LOVE TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE HER AS WELL. UM, AND OF COURSE WE HAD THIS SIERRA CLUB IN SOUTHWEST WORKERS' UNION, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAPTURE ANY OF WHAT THEY HAD ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT OR ANY INPUT THAT THEY CAN GIVE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS GONNA BE AN OPPORTUNITY. SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING, DOUG. HAVE A GREAT ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ROCHA GARCIA. ALRIGHT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, WHERE YOU CUE? OKAY. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 40. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON NOW [38. Ordinance approving a professional service contract with Alcohol and Drug Tests, Inc. to provide the San Antonio Police Department with random and reasonable suspicion drug testing and post-accident testing for a three year term beginning January 1, 2020, and ending December 31, 2022, with two one-year renewal options in an amount not to exceed $240,000.00. Funding for this contract is available in the FY 2020 Police General Fund Budget with additional funding for future fiscal years subject to City Council appropriation. [María Villagómez, Deputy City Manager; William P. McManus, Chief of Police] (Part 1 of 2)] TO ITEM 38. ITEM 38 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND TO DELIVER THE CITY'S CONSENT TO THE FORMATION OF TWO FRESH WATER SUPPLY DISTRICTS TO BE CONVERTED TO WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS. REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF 1019 0.6 ACRES OF LAND OWNED BY THE RED BIRD LEGACY RANCH, LP LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST INTERSECTION OF STATE HIGHWAY TWO 11 AND PETRANKO ROAD IN WEST BEAR COUNTY AND EAST MEDINA COUNTY. IF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS NOT FULLY EXECUTED AND NEGOTIATED BY JANUARY 10TH, 2020, THEN THE CITY MANAGER MAY NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AGREEMENTS TO RELEASE AN AREA FROM THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT DESCRIBED ABOVE. ALL RIGHT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. AND RUDY, CAN WE START WITH THE PRESENTATION? UH, YES. COUNCILWOMAN, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, MR. MAYOR, GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, THIS PROJECT CONSISTS OF A 1000 PLUS PLANNED COMMUNITY THAT IS TWO THIRDS WITHIN MEDINA COUNTY AND ONE THIRD WITHIN BAYER COUNTY. UH, ON THE SCREEN, THE PURPLE DASH LINE AT THE CENTER OF THE EXHIBIT DELINEATES THE BAYER COUNTY AND MEDINA COUNTY LINES. UM, YOU MAY ALSO NOTE THE INCIDENT MAP AT THE TOP RIGHT OF THE EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE PROJECT SITE TO THE FAR WEST OF BAYER COUNTY. UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT IS, UH, TO INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 27 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, 700 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AND 100 PLUS ACRES OF COMMERCIAL. THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY AMENITIES TO SERVE THE AREA WOULD INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES FOR A SCHOOL SITE AND 137 ACRES OF PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, REDBIRD LEGACY RANCH LP, HAVE FILED TWO TYPES OF PETITIONS WITH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK. THE FIRST PETITION IS A REQUEST FOR THE CITY TO CONSENT TO THE CREATION OF A FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT THAT WILL BE CONVERTED TO A WATER CONTROL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. THESE DISTRICTS WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO BE REIMBURSED FOR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE OF PUBLIC SERVING INFRASTRUCTURE. [03:00:02] THE SECOND PETITION RELATES TO THE CONSIDERATION OF RELEASING THE PROPERTY FROM THE E T J. IF THE PROPERTY, UH, EVALUATION IS NOT FAVORABLE TO THE CREATION OF THE DISTRICT, THE PETITIONER REQUESTS THAT THE CITY REMOVE THE PROPERTY FROM THE E T J. THE PETITIONER HAS PROVIDED THAT SHOULD THE CITY PRO, UH, SHOULD THE PROPERTY BE DEVELOPED. THE PETITION SHALL ALSO SERVE AS A REQUEST TO BE BROUGHT BACK INTO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S E T J. GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE TWO SEPARATE PETITIONS, STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUESTS ARE NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT ADOPTED CITY POLICY. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CONTINUE TO CONDUCT FURTHER ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDED THE CITY MANAGER THE PATH MOST ADVANTAGEOUS BY, BY THE CITY, UM, TO THE CITY BY JANUARY THE SIXTH, 2020. THUS, AN APPROVAL BY THE COUNCIL TODAY WOULD AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AGREEMENTS RELATED TO THE REQUESTED WATER DISTRICTS, OR BY JANUARY 10TH, 2020, NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AGREEMENTS TO RELEASE THE AREA FROM THE CITY'S E T J. FURTHER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES THE CONDITIONS LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND IN YOUR PACKETS, WHICH WERE NEGOTIATED AS PART OF ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE CITY, UH, FOR TAKING THIS REQUESTED ACTION. UH, ADDITIONALLY, THE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT LOOKS FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THE DEVELOPING AND ONGOING ANNEXATION AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICY WITH THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE IN JANUARY. WE WILL CERTAINLY DISCUSS THE TOPICS OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS, UH, IN THAT MEETING AS THEY'RE A TOOL TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, AND INFLUENCE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY. UH, WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, WE DO HAVE ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. KEN BROWN. KEN BROWN, ONE 12 EAST PECAN, SUITE 1360. UH, I JUST SIGNED UP TO, TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR FINANCIAL EXPERT HERE, OUR ENGINEER AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE 'EM. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. BROWN. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. OKAY. SO OBVIOUSLY I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANT AND WHAT YOU SAID IN THE PRESENTATIONS, WHICH IS WHY I WANTED TO HAVE MORE CLARITY. UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN SORT OF ON THE BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME. UH, AND THEN WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO ME SOME MANY MONTHS AGO, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE JUST NEEDED, UH, TO RELEASE, UH, THIS TO THE E T J SO THAT DEVELOPER COULD, UM, DO WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO. UH, THAT WE HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTROL OVER IT. BUT NOW THERE'S THE ISSUE OF THE WATER DISTRICT. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UH, COUNCILWOMAN, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, AT EACH STAGE OF THE PROCESS, UH, AS PART OF THE REQUEST FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS ALWAYS THE REQUEST, UM, BY THE PROPERTY OWNER TO INITIATE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A WATER DISTRICT. AND THE WAY THAT THE WATER DISTRICTS WOULD WORK IS THERE WOULD FIRST BE THE DEVELOP THE CREATION, THUS THE CONSENT HERE REQUESTED HERE. IT WOULD GO TO THE COUNTY ULTIMATELY TO ESTABLISH THE DISTRICT, BUT IT WOULD BE THE CONSENT TO FORM, UH, TWO FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICTS. AND A FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT REALLY IS A DISTRICT THAT IS, AGAIN, A FINANCING MECHANISM TO FINANCE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT IT'S ACTUALLY FAIRLY LIMITED IN THE TYPE OF, UM, UH, ITEMS THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE FUNDED WITH USING THAT PARTICULAR TOOL. BUT IT'S IN IT'S NECESSARY IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH WHAT THEN WOULD BE CALLED A WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. SO REALLY YOU START KIND OF WITH THIS BABY DISTRICT, AND REALLY IT KIND OF GROWS INTO A, A WATER CONTROL DISTRICT, WHICH MAINTAINS THE SAME POWER AS THE FRESHWATER CONTROL DISTRICT, ESSENTIALLY WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO, UM, ALLOW ROADS TO BE BUILT AND TO RE REIMBURSE THE, THE DEVELOPER FOR THOSE, FOR, YOU KNOW, THOSE UPFRONT COSTS. ADDITIONAL, I'M SORRY. STOP YOU RIGHT HERE. 'CAUSE I, I'M, I'M SURE, AGAIN, I'M GETTING JUST MORE AND MORE CONFUSED. SO I ALSO, WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE TODAY IS TO GIVE ERIC THE AUTHORITY TO RESPOND, UH, TO THE WATER DISTRICT REQUEST BY JANUARY 30TH. BECAUSE WHEN, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN, IT'S NOT A NEW PROJECT, IT HAS COME TO US SOMETIME AGO, MY REQUEST WAS TO DELAY UNTIL WE COULD HAVE A THOROUGH VETTING AND TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THE IMPLICATIONS WERE. WE HAD ASKED FOR A MEETING IN JANUARY, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND I DIDN'T THINK EVEN BY THEN WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO MAKE A VOTE TODAY, UH, ON THIS EVEN IF WE HAD HAD A THOROUGH VETTING, UH, IN COMMITTEE ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE. BUT THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A DEADLINE, UH, FOR JANUARY 20TH. SO WHAT, WHAT IS THAT DEADLINE AND WHY THE URGENCY TO MOVE ON THIS PROJECT? WHY, WHY COULDN'T IT BE DELAYED FOR SOME FUTURE TIME? YES, MA'AM. I THINK, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE DEVELOPERS HA ARE INTENDING TO CLOSE ON PROPERTY. AND SO THEY DID MAKE THE REQUEST THAT THE CITY MOVE FORWARD, UH, AND TO TAKE SOME ACTION SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOME RELIABILITY THAT AS THEY CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE THAT ASSURANCE THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE ON WITH THEIR PROJECT [03:05:01] AND, AND SO FORTH. AND SO, UM, WHAT THE CITY, WHAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL IS THAT WE AUTHORIZE IS THAT THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZE ERIC TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, ONE OF THESE OPTIONS AND IS ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY. WE WILL ULTIMATELY, UH, RECOMMEND BY, UM, GEN JANUARY THE 10TH AND OPTION THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. THERE'S THE ATTORNEY'S, UM, DEVELOPER'S TIMELINE. GUESS I'M STILL SORT OF CONFUSED. EXACTLY. I MEAN, SO WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE IS TO GIVE ERIC THE AUTHORITY TO NEGOTIATE. CORRECT. WHAT I GUESS I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE OF IS WHAT ARE YOU NEGOTIATING? UM, UM, WE STILL CONTINUE TO DETERMINE WHAT THE MOST APPROPRIATE PATH WOULD BE FOR THE CITY, WHETHER IT IS THE RE THE, UH, CONSENT IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A WATER CONTROL DISTRICT, UH, IN THE COUNTY, OR IF WE THINK THAT RELEASING THE E T J WOULD BE MO MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, ADDITIONALLY THERE, SO HOLD ON RIGHT THERE. SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTOOD. SO THEY, THE, WHAT WE'RE DECIDING, SO ERIC COULD EITHER DECIDE TO RELEASE TO THE E T J OR NOT RELEASE TO E T J OR CREATE THIS WATER DISTRICT. UM, IF THE RECOMMENDATION IS MADE, UH, TO THE CITY MANAGER BY JANUARY THE 10TH TO, UH, EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS FOR THE WATER DISTRICT, THEN WE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT YES, IT WOULDN'T BE ADVERSE TO THE CITY. HOWEVER, IF BY THAT POINT WE JUST CAN'T AGREE THAT THE WATER DISTRICT WILL BE THE APPROPRIATE PATH TO TAKE, THEN UM, ERIC WOULD BE AUTHORIZED TO RE EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT TO RELEASE THE PROPERTY FROM THE E T J SO THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN GO AND THEY CAN ESTABLISH THE, THE WATER DISTRICT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S E T J. UM, OKAY. UH, THANK YOU RUDY. YEAH, I FEEL LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF KEN CAN HELP. YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT FOLLOWING YOU. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. . UM, SO I, I THINK I JUST STILL NEED MORE CLARITY. I, UH, PERHAPS IT COULD BE EXPLAINED IN A DIFFERENT WAY. AND I MEAN, WE HAVE HAD PRIVATE BRIEFINGS ABOUT THIS, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE BRIEFINGS ABOUT IT, BUT I STILL DON'T ENTIRELY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE AGREEING TO. UH, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I JUST WANT CLARITY ON THAT WE ARE, UH, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING HERE? LET ME, I'LL TRY, I'LL TAKE A STAB AT THIS. SO THEY, THEY'VE ASKED US WHAT THEY WANNA DO IS CREATE THIS DISTRICT AND, UH, THERE ARE TWO PATHS THAT WE COULD TAKE. ONE, THE CITY COULD CONSENT TO THE DISTRICT. UH, SO IF WE DO OUR ANALYSIS AND WE FEEL THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST, WE, WE CONSENT. SO, SO WHEN YOU SAY DISTRICT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE WATER CONTROL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. WATER CONTROL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. AND HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO, UM, TO, IS IT THE SAME AS A PID EXACTLY THE SAME AS A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT? IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME AS A PI. IT'S, IT'S LIKE A PI. UH, BUT BECAUSE IT'S IN TWO DIFFERENT COUNTIES, THAT'S WHY THEY NEED THIS SPECIAL DISTRICT. OKAY. IF IT WAS ALL IN BEXAR COUNTY, WE COULD DO A PIT. OKAY, GO AHEAD. SO, SO WE CAN CONSENT TO THAT DISTRICT AND, AND, AND WE'RE FINE. BUT IF OUR ANALYSIS FINDS THAT WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE, 'CAUSE JUST REMEMBER THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE WOULD DO THIS IN SAN ANTONIO, WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE CONSENTING TO IT, THEN WHAT ERIC CAN DO IS JUST FOLLOW THROUGH ON YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO RELEASE THEM FROM THE E T J. AND IF THEY'RE NOT IN OUR E T J, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO CONSENT TO THE DISTRICT. SO THEN THEY CAN, THEY CAN CREATE THE DISTRICT WITHOUT US. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS. WE CAN CONSENT TO IT, OR THEY'RE OUT OF OUR E T J AND THEY CAN CREATE THE DISTRICT WITHOUT US. OKAY. SO THAT HELPS. THANK YOU. UM, AND SO WHAT WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS GOOD FOR US? WELL, THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE EVER DONE ONE OF THESE TYPES OF DISTRICTS. SO WE JUST WANT TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. WE WANNA DOT OUR, I'S CROSS OUR T'S, WORK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, AND DETERMINE IF THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. I, BUT I STILL, SO WHAT, WHAT CHARACTERISTICS OR QUALITIES WOULD YOU USE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS GOOD FOR THE CITY? I SAID IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A NEW DISTRICT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT LEGALLY WE'RE NOT PUTTING OURSELVES IN, IN A COMPROMISING POSITION. SO WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T DO THAT. SO, I MEAN, CAN WE HAVE ANY PARAMETERS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, YES. LET ME ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO JUMP IN, CLARIFY THAT STATEMENT REAL QUICK. THERE. THERE'S, UM, THERE'S SOME LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO IT THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN EXEC. AND IF YOU WANNA RECAP THOSE, WE CAN GO INTO EXEC AND RECAP THOSE IF YOU WOULD LIKE. UH, WELL, SO MY, MY, MY CONCERN IS, IS, UH, I NOT SO MUCH THE LEGAL LANGUAGE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, IT, IT'S IMPACT ON THE CLIMATE. AND SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN WE CONSIDER THOSE THINGS OR CAN WE JUST ABSOLUTELY NOT CONSIDER THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THE E T J, WE DON'T CONTROL THE SPACE ANYWAY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I, I, I MEAN, CAN WE, CAN I JUST PERHAPS DIRECT YOU TO CONSIDER THOSE THINGS WHEN YOU ARE DETERMINING WHETHER OR [03:10:01] NOT IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY? A COUPLE OF THINGS CAME TO MIND AS THIS ISSUE IS COMING UP. CAN WE DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT, UM, LIKE WILL THERE BE AN IMPACT? I KNOW THAT AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND, AND SORT OF SPRAWL DEVELOPMENT OVER THE YEARS, ONE THING THAT WE HAVE LEARNED, WELL, WE LEARNED, AND PEOPLE HAVE KNOWN THIS FOR A LONG TIME, THAT THAT TYPE OF SPRAWL DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY CREATES FLOODING IN OUR DISTRICTS. SO EVEN THOUGH YOU DO A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF WHAT HAPPENS TO, UH, UM, UH, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER IN ONE AREA AND DETERMINE AND, AND EVEN CHARGE ACCORDINGLY TO IMPERVIOUS COVER IN THAT AREA, YOU DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT TO SHOW THAT DOES IT, IN FACT THEN CREATE FLOODING IN OUR AREA, UH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AND THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AT SOME POINT. YOU KNOW, WHAT THE IMPACT IS NOT JUST ON THE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S ON ACTUALLY THE ENTIRE REGION. AND SO, UM, OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER. UM, WE KNOW THAT WE ARE TALKING, UM, ABOUT, UM, HOW WE ADDRESS TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, UM, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. AND THEN YESTERDAY IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT PERHAPS, UM, SAWS MAYBE TAKEN OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER PROTECTION PROGRAM. AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, I I HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE, IS THIS OVER THE AQUIFER? UH, AND THEN THERE'S SOME THAT IT'S NOT OVER THE AQUIFER, BUT DOESN'T THAT SPRAWL DEVELOPMENT STILL INCREASE WATER USAGE? AND WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACTS, UH, OF THAT TO OUR FEES? SO I JUST, A LOT OF THINGS AND, AND I, I KNOW THAT WE, WE, WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT IN, IN OUR JANUARY MEETING, UM, REGARDING, UH, HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS KIND OF THING. BUT WE'RE MAKING A DECISION TODAY THAT I THINK IS, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE FIRST TIME, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE SINCE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPTION TO ANNEX. BUT I DID SEE IN, IN SOME OF THE LANGUAGE SOMEWHERE THAT IT, WE MAY HAVE THE OPTION TO ANNEX IN THE FUTURE. YES. UH, AND THEN HOW WOULD WE DETERMINE IF IT WAS BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY IF WE HAVEN'T HAD SOME DECISION MAKING UPFRONT ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT'S GOOD FOR OUR CITY? RIGHT. WELL, I, FIRST OF ALL, NO, NO, NO DOUBT. UM, WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE IN DEPTH POLICY DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL ON HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE PIDS. UM, 'CAUSE LIKE, AND, AND DISTRICTS LIKE THIS. 'CAUSE THIS IS NOT BY ANY MEANS THE FIRST, UH, TYPE OF DISTRICT LIKE THIS. WE HAVE PIS ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION, UH, ON HOW WE HANDLE THOSE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DEVELOPING SOME GROWTH MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES AND PERHAPS THAT'S, THAT'S THE PLACE THAT, TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE. AND, AND IF, IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOW THE, YOU KNOW, THE CREATION OF ADDITIONAL PITS, WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED TO DO TO, TO PROTECT OUR CITY? UH, SO THAT'S ONE DISCUSSION. YOU MENTIONED DRAINAGE. YOU MENTIONED TRANSPORTATION AND, AND HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE BEST FOR OUR CITY. UH, AND I'LL SAY THIS, THIS AIR QUALITY, AIR AIR QUALITY TOO. OKAY. UM, THIS, THERE'S, THERE'S ALREADY A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS AREA. SO THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, IS GONNA HAPPEN. IT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHETHER WE AGREE TO ALLOW THIS DISTRICT OR NOT, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA HAPPEN. UM, THE GOOD THING ABOUT US CONSENTING TO THIS DISTRICT, OR RELEASING AND LETTING IT IS WE'VE NEGOTIATED TERMS TO PROTECT US. THAT INCLUDES THAT THEY'LL FOLLOW OUR TREE ORDINANCE, OUR 2010 TREE ORDINANCE, THEY'LL FOLLOW OUR 2019 U D C, THEY'LL FOLLOW THE M L O D, THE DOWN LIGHTING. SO, SO WITHIN THE U D C, WE HAVE THINGS TO REVIEW DRAINAGE. YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ADVERSE IMPACT DOWNSTREAM. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO APPLY THAT CODE. UH, YOU MENTIONED AIR QUALITY. UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S BUILDING OUT OF THAT, THAT HIGHWAY, UH, LIKE I SAID, THIS, THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN. THIS DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA HAPPEN. WE ALREADY HAVE THESE VEHICLES OUT THERE. WHAT THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO DO IS THEY'RE GONNA DEDICATE LAND FOR THAT TWO 11 HIGHWAY. SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL EASE CONGESTION, WHICH IS BETTER FOR OUR AIR QUALITY. 'CAUSE WHAT'S BAD FOR AIR QUALITY IS A BUNCH OF VEHICLES STAGNANT. SO WE DON'T WANT THAT. SO THIS HELPS WITH THAT. UH, GOMM ROAD IS A COLLECTOR, THEY'LL EXPAND THAT TO AN ARTERIAL. UH, SO THAT HELPS. ONCE AGAIN, THE, THE VEHICLES, THE TRIPS ARE OUT THERE. THIS IS GONNA HELP MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT. SO WE'RE NOT, SO WE'RE LESSENING, I GUESS, THE DAMAGE FROM, FROM A BUNCH OF IDLING VEHICLES CAUGHT IN TRAFFIC. SO I, I THINK THAT THAT HELPS IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY OUR RULES BY, BY CONSENTING TO THIS DISTRICT, BY ALLOWING THIS DISTRICT. IF WE DON'T DO IT, DISTRICT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY. AND WE HAVE LESS SAY, WELL, PART, I UNDERSTAND. AND YOU KNOW, THAT WE, WE [03:15:01] DO HAVE NOT THAT MUCH CONTROL. WE ONLY REALLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS HERE. AND THAT'S WHAT, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE, THAT WE'RE LIMITED, UH, WITH THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. UM, AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER, WHEN MAYOR, UH, RON NUREMBERG FIRST BECAME THE MAYOR FOUR YEARS AGO NOW, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING SOME TYPE OF JOINT COUNTY, CITY, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A COMMISSION, BUT SORT OF ONGOING STUDY. BECAUSE SO OFTEN THESE PROJECTS ARE TAKEN IN ISOLATION AS IF IT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE REST OF THE REGION. AND, AND THEY DO HAVE AN IMPACT, VERY SEVERE IMPACT MAY BE GOOD. UM, MAYBE NOT. UH, SO, UM, I FEEL LIKE WE, THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF WAY TO ADDRESS IT BEYOND JUST WHAT THE CITY CAN DO, BECAUSE I REALLY WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE AN EXPANSION OF GOM ROAD AND AN EXPANSION OF TWO 11, UH, BECAUSE IT CONTRIBUTES TO SPRAWL DEVELOPMENT. NOW WHAT, HOW WE, IF WE CAN LIMIT THAT, I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT OUR ROADS. UM, BUT I, UH, FEEL, UM, THAT THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE CITY. UH, AND I'VE EXPRESSED THIS MANY, MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS. AND SO, UM, I JUST, I WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO START THIS DISCUSSION. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN IT. AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'LL MEASURE IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL OR NOT, IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME SORT OF PARAMETERS AND, AND ANYTHING TO EVEN, UH, QUANTITATIVELY SAY, THIS WORKED OR THIS DIDN'T. WE WON'T HAVE A MEASURE OF SUCCESS BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. SO I WANTED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER PIS, UH, OR, AND THIS WILL COME UP AGAIN SINCE WE ALSO NO LONGER HAVE THE ANNEXATION TOOLS. UH, AND SO EVEN WHEN WE DID THE ANNEXATION, UH, AND WE PRESENTED WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE GOOD OR BAD FOR THE CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS BEING PRESENTED, BUT AT LEAST THERE WAS A TOOL AVAILABLE, UH, THAT WE COULD, UH, DISCUSS IN THIS SCENARIO. WE HAVE NO TOOLS. WE HAVE NO MEASURE FOR SUCCESS. WE HAVE, UH, REALLY NOTHING TO GO ON, JUST TO ALLOW ERIC TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR US. AND WE AS A COUNSEL, UM, WE, UH, I HAVE TREMENDOUS FAITH IN ERIC AND OUR LEGAL TEAM TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. WHAT I DON'T NECESSARILY, UH, SUPPORT IS THIS TYPE OF SMALL SPRAWL DEVELOPMENT AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOOD FOR US. SO I WILL, UM, I'LL, I'LL JUST, UH, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT AND, AND, UM, UH, TURN IT BACK OVER. UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, GOT A FEW QUESTIONS HERE ON THIS AND, UH, COMMENTS. WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT? THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW IS TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE ONE OF THESE TWO OPTIONS FOR THE CITY. OKAY. AND IS THERE ANY KIND OF DEADLINE THAT THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO GET DONE IN ORDER TO START THAT NEGOTIATION? I CAN ACTUALLY LET THE DEVELOPER SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THEIR DEADLINES. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSEL. I'M KARA TACKETT WITH PAP DAWSON, 2000 NORTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10. YES, THE DEVELOPER. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF AND IT'S COME TO COUNCIL, I THINK A FEW TIMES FOR BRIEFINGS FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, AT THIS POINT, ONE THING TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE ACTUALLY NEGOTIATED THE AGREEMENTS WITH STAFF. UM, ALL OF THE TERMS, THE CONCESSIONS BY THE DEVELOPER, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THE GUIDELINES AND PROCESS UNDER EITHER MECHANISM. THE AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED AND ARE READY TO BE APPROVED. THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION IS TO ALLOW LEGAL AND THE CITY MANAGER TO CONCLUDE WHICH PATH IS MOST ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE CITY TO PURSUE. BUT THE TERMS UNDER EITHER AVENUE HAVE ALREADY BEEN NEGOTIATED. OUR TIMELINE IS THE DEVELOPER DOES HAVE A HOME BUILDER UNDER CONTRACT WHO'S READY TO PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION. UNTIL WE HAVE CLARITY ON HOW THAT IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT ACTION CAN'T HAPPEN. OKAY. AND I MEAN, WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION BY THE DEVELOPER ON WHEN HE, WHEN HE NEEDS THIS SIGN SEALED AND DELIVERED? THE GOAL HAD BEEN TO CLOSE THAT TRANSACTION PRIOR TO THE END OF 2019. SO EVEN WITH THIS DELAY THAT HAS BEEN DELAYED INTO A FUTURE YEAR. OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE IMPACTS THERE? WELL, INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT REVENUE IN A 2019 FISCAL YEAR, IT WILL BE BUMPED OUT FOR A YEAR FOR THAT AND ADDRESSING IT FROM THAT REGARD. OKAY. AND, UM, I GUESS THIS, THIS IS MORE FOR ERIC. UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE YOU SET THE DATE OF JANUARY 10TH, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD EARLIER? JANUARY 10TH. UH, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD SPEED THAT PROCESS UP TO GET THAT APPROVAL? THIS, THIS YEAR, THIS BEFORE THE END [03:20:01] OF THE YEAR? I MEAN, IF THE TERMS ARE ALREADY NEGOTIATED UNDER BOTH, BOTH, UH, I'M NOT SEEING WHAT WE'RE DELAYING THIS TO JAN TO JANUARY FOR . AGAIN, UH, COUNCILMAN THERE, THERE'S, UM, A LEGAL ISSUE RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, WHY IT'S AN OPTION. AND, AND AGAIN, IF YOU WANNA DISCUSS THAT, WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND DISCUSS IT IN TERMS OF THE, OF THE WHY THE DATE IS THERE. WELL, I I, WE JUST HEARD THAT THEY'D LIKE TO GET THIS STARTED IN DECEMBER, AND I, I GUESS I'D CALL FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO FIGURE THIS OUT. I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER, PLEASE, PLEASE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, SO A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS. I THINK IT WOULD BE PROPER TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY FIRST. SO [Executive Session 1] TIME IS AT 1:22 PM THIS 12TH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2019. THE COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS AND EXECUTIVE SESSION CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND DELIBERATE OR DISCUSS THE ITEMS POSTED ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2019 B SESSION AND THE 20, EXCUSE ME, DECEMBER 12TH, 2019, A SESSION, UH, AGENDA AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THE TIME IS 1:41 PM ON THIS THURSDAY, DECEMBER 12TH, 2019. CITY COUNCIL'S RECONVENED FROM ITS EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN. WE'RE GONNA RESUME [38. Ordinance approving a professional service contract with Alcohol and Drug Tests, Inc. to provide the San Antonio Police Department with random and reasonable suspicion drug testing and post-accident testing for a three year term beginning January 1, 2020, and ending December 31, 2022, with two one-year renewal options in an amount not to exceed $240,000.00. Funding for this contract is available in the FY 2020 Police General Fund Budget with additional funding for future fiscal years subject to City Council appropriation. [María Villagómez, Deputy City Manager; William P. McManus, Chief of Police] (Part 2 of 2)] NOW. UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY HAS THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, LET'S GO BACK TO THIS ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT AND, AND WHAT, WHAT ARE THE AMENITIES OR THE THINGS THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO IMPLEMENT, UH, ON THIS DEAL? JUST LIST THEM OUT AND GIMME A TOTAL PRICE ON THAT. CAN WE GET THE POWERPOINT UP AS WELL, COUNCILMAN, WITHIN YOUR PACKET, WE DO HAVE A LIST OF, UM, CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE, UM, THE PETITIONER HAS MADE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, FIRST OFF BEING THAT, UH, SHOULD THE PROPERTY BE RELEASED TO, UM, RELEASED, UH, FROM OUR E T J, THEY AGREED TO APPLY THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS. THEY AGREED TO APPLY ALL OF, UM, THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THROUGH DEED RESTRICTIONS. SO, COUNCILMAN, WE DO HAVE, I KNOW THAT IT'S RATHER SMALL WRITING, BUT IT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL, THAT THEY WOULD, UH, AGREE, UH, THROUGH DEEDED RESTRICTIONS TO APPLY OUR CITY'S CODES AND REGULATIONS, INCLUDING THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, ET CETERA. FOLLOWING OUR UPDATED U D C. UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WOULD ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SHOULD THE PROPERTY BE BROUGHT BACK INTO THE, UH, INTO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO Z T J, WHICH AGAIN, WOULD REESTABLISH THE FACT THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE CURRENT CITY, UH, REGULATIONS, INCLUDING OUR TREE ORDINANCE. UM, ADDITIONALLY, SHOULD WE, SHOULD THE PROPERTY BE BROUGHT BACK INTO THE, UH, E T J OR SHOULD THE WATER DISTRICT ACTUALLY BE APPROVED, THEY WOULD ALSO ENTER INTO A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UH, WITH THAT AGREEMENT, UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CAN APPLY OUR SALES TAX ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, UH, WITHIN THE DISTRICT. AND, UM, WITHIN THAT SALES TAX, WE'VE ACTUALLY AGREED TO A REVENUE SHARING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF 75% FOR THE CITY, 25 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL CONSIDERING WE LOOKED AT MODELS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE AND FOUND THAT FOR THE MOST PART, UM, THE DEAL SEEMED TO BE ABOUT 50 50 SHARED REVENUE. AND SO WE AGREED TO AND SOME TO A BETTER REVENUE SHARING, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER. DO YOU HAVE LIKE A TOTAL ESTIMATE ON WHAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BRING IN? EVERY YEAR? WE DO HAVE, UM, A PERFORMER THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER, UM, AND YOU WOULD NEED, IT NEEDS SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATING GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATING THESE AGREEMENTS. HAVING SAID THAT, UM, WITHIN YEAR, UH, YEARS IN BETWEEN SEVEN AND 10, IT COULD BE UPWARDS OF A MILLION DOLLARS. IT JUST REALLY HAS TO DEPEND ANNUALLY ON, ON WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE MARKET IS DOING AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT. SO APPROXIMATELY A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR APPROXIMATELY. OKAY. UM, THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, HAS AGREED TO, UH, DEDICATE LAND FOR THE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF HIGHWAY TWO 11. UM, THERE WOULD BE 47 ACRES OF LAND, UH, SET ASIDE FOR HIGHWAY TWO 11. ADDITIONALLY, THREE ACRES, UH, SET ASIDE FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. SHOULD WE ACTUALLY ANNEX ACCESS PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE? WE WOULD HAVE A LOCATION ALONG A MAJOR ARTERIAL OR ALONG HIGHWAY 2 11 4 FOR A FUTURE FIRE STATION. SO THO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS. ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF A ROADWAY THAT IS ON OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN. OKAY. HOME ROAD. UM, AND THEN THE DEVELOPER HAS ALSO AGREED TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO HELP ADJOIN OR TO HELP, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE NEGOTIATIONS TO ADJOIN OTHER PIS SO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE HAVE MADE THESE AGREEMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, PIS ET CETERA, OUT IN THE COUNTY, THAT, UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO ANNEX [03:25:01] IN THE FUTURE WITH SOME ADDITIONAL HELP FROM THE DEVELOPER. OKAY. SO THUMBNAIL, HOW MUCH ESTIMATE IS THAT ALL OF THOSE AMENITIES PUT TOGETHER? DO WE HAVE A TOTAL COST OF ALL THAT, THAT THE DEVELOPER IS WILLING TO THROW INTO THE DEAL? IF WE'RE ASKING ABOUT COST, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE DEVELOPER ON THAT. OKAY. MS. CARA, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT'S THE COST OF COMPLYING WITH THE 2010 TREE ORDINANCE VERSUS THE 2003 THAT WE'RE VESTED WITH, BUT THE ITEMS WE CAN GIVE, SO THE DONATION OF THE 47 PLUS ACRES TO STATE HIGHWAY TWO 11 IS VALUED OVER 3 MILLION BASED ON APPRAISALS WE'VE HAD DONE WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. WE'VE COMMITTED TO A THREE ACRE FIRE STATION, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS. WE'RE ADDING ABOUT $7 MILLION IN COST TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF GOM ROAD. WE'VE GOT 137 ACRES OF PARKS, OPEN SPACE TRAILS THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, THAT WILL COME AT AN ADDITIONAL COST. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WELL INTO DOUBLE DIGIT MILLION DOLLAR FIGURES THAT IS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GREAT. SO, UH, DO WE NORMALLY GET THOSE KIND OF, UH, THINGS IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THAT? UM, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT IS, IS UNIQUE GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE ONE LIKE THIS. OKAY. I WOULD, SO I, I, WE DO REQUEST CONSIDERATIONS FOR OTHER AGREEMENTS, BUT AGAIN, THIS ONE WOULD BE UNIQUE, SO. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, WITH, WITH THESE CONSIDERATIONS AND ESTABLISHING THIS DISTRICT, UM, THE COST PER HOUSE WOULD GO DOWN. I MEAN, IF WE DIDN'T GET, IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS, THE COST OF A TYPICAL HOUSE WOULD BE X. HOW MUCH WOULD IT BE WITH ALL OF THESE, UH, UM, WITH THIS DEAL IF IT GETS DONE CORRECT? UM, BASED ON BOTH NUMBERS WE'VE ANALYZED FOR THE PROJECT AS WELL AS THE STUDY CONDUCTED IN THE HOUSTON AREA, BEING WITHIN A SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ALLOWS YOU, ON AVERAGE TO REDUCE THE PRICE OF A HOME BY ABOUT $150,000 BECAUSE YOU'RE ABLE TO PUT THOSE COSTS INTO THE TAXES THAT ARE PAID OVER THE LIFETIME OF THAT HOME, RATHER THAN UPFRONT INTO THE COST OF THE MORTGAGE AND THE COST OF THE HOME. OKAY. AND WHAT WOULD THE AVERAGE COST PER HOME? WE'LL BE STARTING IN THE LOW 200 THOUSANDS TRYING TO BE THE FIRST MOVE UP OR FIRST TIME HOME BUYER FOR AN ATTAINABLE HOME IN THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET. AND YOU'RE CLOSE BY, UH, WHAT SOME MAJOR INSTALLATIONS? MILITARY. SO WE'RE AT NEAR STATE HIGHWAY TWO 11 AND PETRANKO ROAD. SO WE'RE CLOSE TO PORT SAN ANTONIO, LACKLAND AIR FORCE BASE. YOU HAVE ANOTHER MAJOR EMPLOYMENT HUB AT THE 16 0 4, 1 51 WESTOVER HILLS AREA. AND THEN ABEL, ONCE TWO 11 IS BUILT, YOU'RE UP TO COLLAB ROAD AND CONTINUING NORTH AS WELL. SO WE WILL BE HELPING OUT WITH OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK ON THIS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE MILITARY IN THOSE AREAS. YES. THAT DO NEED THAT IN AN ATTAINABLE PRICE POINT. YES. RIGHT, RIGHT. EXACTLY. SO JUST LOOKING AT THIS, UH, YOU WERE SAYING THIS IS A UNIQUE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT FOR SAN ANTONIO. DO WE HAVE ANY COMPARABLE, UH, UH, YOU MENTIONED KARA HOUSTON. HOW HAVE THEY, HOW DO THEY HANDLE THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND HOW MANY HAVE THEY DONE? UM, RUDY HAS SOME VISUALS. UM, WE, THIS IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT TOOL OR A FINANCING TOOL, REALLY FOR SAN ANTONIO, BUT IT'S BEEN USED STATEWIDE. WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS A MAP OF THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA, THE LIGHT KIND OF PINK IN THE MIDDLE, OR THE CITIES OF DALLAS AND FORT WORTH. THE BRIGHTER, UM, YELLOWISH ORANGE COLOR. IT'S HARD TO TELL, IT'S GREEN HERE ON THE MAP ARE THE SUBURBAN CITIES THAT SURROUND IN THE METROPLEX. AS WE ALL KNOW, DALLAS IS LANDLOCK AND FORT WORTH IS MOVING WESTWARD. THE ORANGE BLOCKS YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THIS ARE SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS OF SOME TYPE A MUD, A W C I D OR A PI IN THERE. WE HAVE SIMILAR MAPS FOR WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE AUSTIN AREA. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN USED. THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS THAT PINK COLOR IN THE MIDDLE AND MOVING NORTH AND WEST, THESE HAVE BEEN DONE. AND THEN THE POSTER CHILD FOR FINANCING DISTRICTS IS THE HOUSTON AREA. GOOD GRIEF. GRIEF WHERE ORANGE IS THE MECHANISM THAT'S BEEN USED IN HOUSTON FOR, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE BUILT HOUSTON BASED ON THESE SPECIAL, UH, IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS SUBSTANTIALLY. YES. THERE'S WELL OVER A THOUSAND DISTRICTS IN THE HOUSTON AREA. WOW. AND, AND THEN THE LAST MAP IS SAN ANTONIO. AND YEAH, SO LOOKING AT THESE MAPS, THEY'VE REALLY BENEFITED OFF OF THESE BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY JUST, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY GET LOWER COST FOR HOUSING, THEY GET UTILITIES PUT IN, [03:30:01] UH, NOT AT THE CITY'S EXPENSE, RIGHT? YES. AND THE LAST STUDY THAT THEY DID IN THE HOUSTON MARKET BY MYERS RESEARCH GROUP WAS OVER A 12 MONTH PERIOD, 75% OF THE HOUSES IN THE HOUSTON MARKET WERE SOLD WITHIN A SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT OF SOME SORT. GREAT. GREAT. AND I, I, I LOOK AT, UH, I LOOK AT US AND I'M, I'M SAYING WE'VE MISSED OUT ON THE GROWTH, UH, THE, UM, HELPING FRAY EXPENSES AND OFFERING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YEAH. THE URBAN SPRAWL IS OUT THERE, BUT WHAT I KEEP STRESSING, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN AROUND SAN ANTONIO, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, WHY NOT EMBRACE THIS TYPE OF A DISTRICT TO ENCOURAGE THAT SO THAT WE GET SOME REIMBURSEMENT FROM THAT? WE GET SOME VALUE OUT OF THESE AS A CITY AND NOT JUST, NOT JUST SET 'EM ASIDE AND NOT PAY ANY ATTENTION TO 'EM. SO I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND, UH, HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THIS DEAL CONSUMMATED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. UM, AND SIR, I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, THIS, UH, ORDINANCE. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 38. COUNCIL MEMBER KE HBAR. UM, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM IS NOT, UH, CONSTITUTED AN ENDORSEMENT OF URBAN SPRAWL ON MY PART. I PREFER WE NOT DEVELOP OUR GREEN SPACES, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THIS IS PRIVATELY OWNED LAND AND WE'RE TEXAS AND WE'RE A BIG PROPERTY RIGHTS STATE. SO, UM, THE REASON I SUPPORT IT IS BECAUSE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, THE GEOGRAPHICALLY CLOSEST DISTRICT TO THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, I JUST WANNA ENSURE THAT WE AS A CITY ARE A CITY ARE BENEFITING FROM, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY, UM, BY ASKING THEM TO ADHERE TO OUR 2010 TREE ORDINANCE, THE 2018 MILITARY LIGHTING OVERLAY DISTRICT, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF TWO 11, WHICH WILL GREATLY ALLEVIATE, UH, ALLEVIATE CONGESTION ON 1604, NOT JUST FOR MY DISTRICT, BUT THE WHOLE CITY, AND ULTIMATELY RECEIVING 75% OF THE SALE TAX SALES TAX OF THE COMMERCIAL, UM, PROPERTIES. I, I, I THINK WE SHOULD BENEFIT FINANCIALLY AS WELL FROM THE AREA OUTSIDE OUR CITY. SO, UM, I SUPPORT THE MOTION. AND, UM, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY IT. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CAB, HARVARD COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. THANK YOU MAYOR. AND, UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY, I'M SORRY THAT YOU HADN'T SEEN ALL THIS BEFORE BECAUSE I WAS FULLY BRIEFED ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF TIMES. SO I'M GONNA START INVITING YOU TO MY BRIEFINGS, UH, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO OH, OKAY. I WASN'T, WHY'D YOU ASK ALL THOSE QUESTIONS, PERRY? OKAY. . SORRY. SO ANYWAY, UM, SO THANK YOU. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. UM, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE THE 2010 TREE PRESERVATION STANDARDS AND THAT Y'ALL ARE WILLING TO DONATE THE THREE ACRES OF LAND FOR A FUTURE FIRE STATION, WHICH WE KNOW WILL BE MUCH NEEDED, UM, WITH THAT GROWTH. UM, THE 47 PLUS ACRES OF LAND TO BEAR COUNTY TO ALLOW FOR HOPEFULLY A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF STATE HIGHWAY TWO 11, I THINK BENEFITS ALSO THE RESIDENTS IN MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS NEIGHBORING, UH, DISTRICT TO DISTRICT SIX. UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONGESTION SPECIFICALLY FOR SCHOOL BUSES RIGHT NOW. KIDS HAVE TO WAKE UP EARLIER BECAUSE BUSES HAVE TO LEAVE EARLIER AND DROP THEM OFF. AND I, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF LETTING KIDS SNO AN EXTRA FIVE MINUTES OR . SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE AND LOOK FORWARD TO MORE CREATIVE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS ONE. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD LOOK LIKE HOUSTON, UH, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF AN ADVANTAGE TO, TO LOOKING AT THE CREATIVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE COULD, COULD BENEFIT FROM BRINGING SUCH DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND ALSO I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THESE AREAS ARE ALREADY SUBJECT TO THE UNITED SOUTHWEST COMMUNITIES PLAN AND THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN. SO I'M IN SUPPORTIVE AND JUST THANK YOU FOR, UH, YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND YES, I DID SEE IT, BUT I WANT THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROJA GARCIA, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT RE-EXPLAINED ONE MORE TIME ABOUT THE SALES TAX PORTION OF THE CONSIDERATIONS. THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT ALLOWS A MECHANISM WHERE ONCE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED, THE CITY CAN LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEX THAT PROPERTY. AND THROUGH THAT LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THE AGREEMENT ALLOWS FOR SHARING OF SALES TAX REVENUE COLLECTED BY THE DISTRICT AND WHAT THE DISTRICT IS AGREED TO, OR THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE A 75% ALLOCATION OF THAT SALES TAX TO THE CITY AND 25% TO THE REMAIN WITHIN THE DISTRICT FOR USE WITHIN THE DISTRICT FOR MAINTENANCE. AND WITHIN ITS LIMITS, WE'VE ESTIMATED AT FULL BUILD OUT, WHICH COULD BE, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS, IT GENERATES A LITTLE UNDER $3 MILLION IN SALES TAX REVENUE BASED ON THE CURRENT PROJECTIONS. SO OF THAT SPLIT, IT'D BE A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION TO THE CITY. OKAY. NOW, [03:35:01] PART OF THE, UH, DISCUSSION HAS BEEN THAT THE CITY COULD BRING THE ENTIRE DISTRICT INTO THE CITY WITHOUT OBJECTION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER. THAT WAS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION. IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, WE WOULD GET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE SALES TAX, ISN'T THAT RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY PART OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO REGARDLESS OF ANY PRIOR ARRANGEMENT THAT WAS MADE. CORRECT. OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT LIMITING OURSELVES AS A CITY. SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND BRING THAT PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY INTO THE CITY? I WOULDN'T WANT US TO SEE THAT. WE'RE ONLY LIMITED TO 75% OF THAT AT THAT TIME. NO, AT THE END OF THE NON ANNEXATION TIME PERIOD, CITY HAS FULL DISCRETIONARY DECISION TO BRING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IN FULL PURPOSE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. SO I JUST, I WOULD LIKE, AS WE ARE, UM, HAVING FURTHER, UM, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS ISSUE, UM, UH, THE, UH, THE WOMAN HERE FROM P DAWSON, CARA, YES. UM, YOU SAID THAT WITH THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THIS, IT REDUCES THE HOME PRICE BY 150,000. SO I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S POSSIBLE. AND I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT DEALS GO THROUGH THIS DUS I HAVE SEEN A LOT OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A HOME INCENTIVIZED BY THE CITY MORE THAN ABOUT 20%. AND SO YOU'RE SHOWING AN INCREDIBLE SUM HERE, WHICH I THINK NEEDS TO BE, UH, JUSTIFIED. UM, I JUST CAN'T, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THAT'S POSSIBLE. AND IF IT'S TRUE, THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE SUBSIDIZING, I MEAN, THE CITY IS SUBSIDIZING THIS DEVELOPMENT BY $150,000 A MONTH. NO, LET ME BE CLEAR. THERE IS NO CITY SUBSIDY TO THIS. THERE ARE NO TAX WAIVERS OR NO FEE WAIVERS. SO THE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW IS IN THE PROPERTIES IN BAYER AND MEDINA COUNTIES. SO IT WOULD PAY TAXES TO THOSE COUNTIES FOR A VALOREM TAX SALES TAX IF THEY COLLECT THEM, EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT TAXES, HOSPITAL DISTRICT TAXES, UM, FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICE, AND SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY TAXES. NONE OF THOSE ARE WAIVED. THERE IS NO SUBSIDY BY THE CITY. WHAT THE PRICE REDUCTION IS ASSOCIATED WITH IS THROUGH THE CREATION OF THE DISTRICT AND THE CITY'S CONSENT. SO BEING OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A MECHANISM TO COLLECT ANY TAXES FROM THE DISTRICT AT THIS TIME. SO THE DISTRICT WOULD BE COLLECTING AN AD VALOREM AND SALES TAX AND SETTING ITS TAX RATE THROUGH THE COLLECTION OF THAT TAX. AS YOU BUILD VALUE ON THE GROUND, YOU ARE GENERATING ADDITIONAL TAXES THAT ALLOWS THE DISTRICT TO SELL BONDS TO REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER FOR THE COST OF THE INSTALLATION OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND ONLY PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC ROADS, PUBLIC UTILITIES, DRAINAGE PARKS ARE ALLOWED TO BE REIMBURSED THROUGH BOND SALES AND AVALOR TAXES COLLECTED WITH THE DISTRICT. AND SO IN A TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU SPEND A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU ROLL THOSE COSTS INTO THE COST OF SELLING A HOME. AND SO THE HOME PRICE IS HAVING TO BEAR THAT ADDITIONAL COST. YOU CAN TAKE THAT COST OUT OF THE PRICE OF THE HOME AND COLLECT IT THROUGH A SEPARATE MECHANISM. SO THERE IS NO CITY SUBSIDY. BUT YOU'RE SAYING BY ALL THAT, IT REDUCES THE PRICE OF A HOME BY 150,000? YES. SO I THINK THIS IS ALSO WHERE WE NEED TO REALLY SEE, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT MISTAKE ARE WE MAKING HERE THAT THEY CAN DO IT AND REDUCE THE PRICE OF A HOME BY 150,000, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT HERE IN OUR CITY. UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, THE ONLY BENEFIT THAT WE'VE SEEN IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, AS WE'VE DONE SAWS INCENTIVES AND C P S INCENTIVES AND OR, OR RATHER INFILL. SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE, UM, WELL, WHAT'S YOU'RE ABLE TO DO, DO? SO IT'S MORE FOR THE STAFF. SO HOW IS IT THAT THIS DISTRICT CAN BE SU CAN BE CREATED AND HAVE THAT MUCH OF A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. SO IT'S PART OF THE ANALYSIS. I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE ANSWER THOSE, THOSE QUESTIONS TODAY, BUT THIS IS A GREAT CONCERN OF MINE, OF THE COST OF GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT VERSUS THE COST OF INFIELD DEVELOPMENT THAT WE DO HERE IN THE CITY. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THIS DISTINCTION THAT'S HAPPENING? IT CAN'T BE THE 20% OF CITY TAXES. IT'S GOING, IT'S BE, IT IS ACTUALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. AND SO ALL OF THE, RIGHT. SO, OKAY, THAT'S REALLY ALL I NEEDED TO HEAR RIGHT THERE. UM, SO IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. THEY CAN BUILD A HOME FOR $150,000 LESS THAN [03:40:01] WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE CITY. SO WHY WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT THAT THIS IS, THAT'S, BUT IT'S BECAUSE YOU CAN LEVERAGE TAX AS IF YOU ARE INSIDE THE CITY. SO THIS IS, I THINK WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, UM, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IF THE DEVELOPERS CAN UTILIZE THOSE TOOLS, WHY CAN'T WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO UTILIZE THOSE TOOLS AND GIVE THAT BENEFIT TO OUR OWN CITIZENS? UM, SO IT CAN'T JUST BE THE SAVVY DEVELOPERS IN GREENFIELD THAT CAN FIGURE IT OUT. I MEAN, WE JUST HAD A WHOLE B SESSION ABOUT INFILL. WE HAD A HOBY SESSION ABOUT DEMOLITIONS. UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST YEARS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UH, AND YET WE CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT, BUT SOMEHOW THEY CAN. SO WE, WE NEED TO, THESE ARE LARGER POLICY DISCUSSIONS, WHICH IS WHY I WAS VERY RELUCTANT TO VOTE ON THIS TODAY. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING. IT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW. THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED, UH, AND WHY WE'RE HAVING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IS COULD WE CAN NO LONGER ANNEX OR, UH, ALLOW THEM TO JUST BE RELEASED FROM THE E T J. I MEAN, IT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT SIMPLE, BUT THEN IT, UH, THE LEGISLATION CHANGED AND SO IT WAS NO LONGER SIMPLE. UH, BUT I JUST DO THINK IT'S, UM, I THINK WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING VERY, UH, SIGNIFICANT HERE. AND SO, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT, THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION, UH, THAT, UM, BRIDGET MADE, UH, ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. I HAD ASKED FOR, UH, COMMISSION TRYING TO DETERMINE, UM, WHAT, HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THESE ISSUES IN THE FUTURE. BECAUSE MY QUESTIONING CAME UP, YOU KNOW, WITH RUDY AND WITH ERIC, THAT ERIC IS GOING TO MAKE THE BEST. WE ARE GIVING ERIC THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY, BUT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. WE HAVEN'T GIVEN HIM POLICY DIRECTION TO SAY ACCORDING, UH, TO THESE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER THESE SITUATIONS. THIS IS A BEST, UM, DECISION FOR OUR CITY. SO, BUT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS BRIEFING IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, RATHER IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. UM, AND SO, UM, BUT I, I CAN, I MEAN, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME, BUT BRIDGET, COULD YOU JUST ADDRESS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT? SO THE ANNEXATION GROWTH POLICY IS A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AND IT REALLY COMES OUT OF THE FACT THAT THE STATE LAW CHANGED. SO YES, WE CAN ACTUALLY ANNEX, BUT WE CAN ONLY ANNEX UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WITH AN ELECTION OR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION, OR IF SOMEONE VIOLATES A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED, UM, ON AN AGENDA OR AN AGENDA ITEM EARLIER TODAY. AND ALSO WITH THAT, WE'RE ALSO GETTING A NUMBER OF SPECIAL DISTRICT REQUESTS. SO YOUR PIDS, UM, YOUR W CIDS, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN INFLUX OF PID REQUESTS COMING IN, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT OUR POLICY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN MANAGE GROWTH. SO THE FIRST PART OF THE PROJECT IS MORE OR LESS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE WHITE PAPER. UH, WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY GROUP, OUR COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP, WHICH INCLUDES DEPARTMENTS, UH, OFFICE OF, UM, UH, MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, T C I FIRE THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY ANNEXATION AS WELL AS OUR EXTERNAL PARTNERS SUCH AS C P S SAW IN BEAR COUNTY, REALLY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THE ISSUES OR CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE IN MANAGING GROWTH IN THE COUNTY. AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT KARA MENTIONED, HOUSTON FORT WORTH, AUSTIN, HOW THEY'RE DEALING WITH THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS. SO THE FIRST PART OF IT'S MORE LIKE KIND OF THAT RESEARCH PORTION OF IT. WE DO HAVE A WHITE PAPER DEVELOPED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE BRIEFING YOU ON, ON JAN IN JANUARY, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE ISSUES IN CHALLENGES ARE IN LOOKING AT OUR GROWTH. THE SECOND PIECE OF THAT WILL BE DETERMINING FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, WHAT ARE THOSE CRITERIA? WHAT ARE THOSE, UH, PARAMETERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT WE WANT COUNCIL TO LOOK AT IN, UM, PROJECTS THAT COME IN. HOW DO WE ANALYZE THEM WHEN WE LOOK AT REVENUE SHARING? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? IS IT A 50 50, 75, 25? THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS, WHAT DOES THE ENVIRONMENT LOOK LIKE NOW AND WHAT ARE THE POLICIES THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WHEN A REQUEST COME IN, HOW DO WE EVALUATE THOSE? OKAY. WELL, I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, STILL IN YOUR REMARKS AND OTHER REMARKS, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY MENTION ABOUT CLIMATE. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY MENTION OF, UH, WATER QUALITY OF, UM, UH, DRAINAGE AND, AND SORT OF THOSE LARGER POLICY DECISIONS EITHER. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT WILL BE ALL PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. YES. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, COST AS WELL, BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY, I, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD THIS NUMBER NOW, FLOATED A COUPLE TIMES. I JUST FIND IT VERY HARD TO BELIEVE BECAUSE WE HAVE NEVER REALLY BEEN ABLE TO GET A SUBSIDY IN ANY INFILL PROJECT, MORE THAN 20%. MM-HMM. . BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE 60%. I MEAN, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG THERE. EITHER YOUR MATH IS WRONG OR WE'RE DOING SOMETHING VERY WRONG. WE LOOK AT THOSE. SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE, UM, UH, DISCUSSIONS IN FUTURE, UM, COMMITTEES. WE'LL HAVE TO COME TO YOU IN JANUARY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. ERIC DID, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. DID ERIC, DID YOU WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT? YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK, UH, IN, IN, AND THEN WE'LL GET TO COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ'S, UH, INQUIRY. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, UH, WE, WE'LL WORK WITH [03:45:01] THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE THE $150,000 AS WELL, AND WE'LL DO A SIDE BY SIDE VERSUS THE PROGRAMS WE DO AND WHAT THEY'RE DESCRIBING. I SUSPECT THEY'RE DESCRIBING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY WORTH TO THE BENEFIT OF BOTH THE STAFF AND THE COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT THAT SIDE BY SIDE LOOKS LIKE. AND WE'LL DO THAT. ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. THANK YOU MAYOR, AND THANK YOU ERIC FOR, UH, FOLLOWING UP ON THAT. I THINK, UM, IF THAT'S THE TYPE OF COST SAVINGS YOU CAN HAVE WITH THIS, UH, ARRANGEMENT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY LEARN FROM, FROM IN THIS AGE OF FIGHTING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE. SO, UH, THANK YOU, UH, TO THE STAFF AND, UM, TO THE TEAM FOR, UH, COMING TO THIS ARRANGEMENT. I KNOW THAT YOU'VE WORKED LONG AND HARD ON IT AND THAT THIS IS, UH, LIKE THE COUNCILWOMAN SAID IS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY, BUT PROBABLY THE BEST, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, THANK YOU. AND, UH, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S KIND OF EXCITING. IT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU DO THIS TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA, SO WE'LL SEE HOW, HOW IT GOES. UM, BUT I DO LOOK FORWARD TO THE FURTHER DISCUSSION, THE POLICY DISCUSSION ON, UM, SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT AND HOW WE CAN MAKE IT AS SUSTAINABLE AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. AND, AND I'LL JUST ADD A COUPLE COMMENTS. I, I HAD THE SAME REACTION AS COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA ON SAYING THE MAPS OF HOUSTON AND AUSTIN. CERTAINLY NOT, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA MODEL, BUT PERHAPS WE CAN LEARN FROM IN MANY WAYS. UH, BUT I DO RECOGNIZE THE WORK OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AS WELL AS OUR CITY TO NEGOTIATE A, A GOOD SOLUTION. THE, THE CHALLENGE BEFORE US THOUGH IS WE'RE ASKING FOR CONSISTENCY. WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME GUIDANCE, UM, AMONG OURSELVES AS POLICY MAKERS IN A SITUATION WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE NEGOTIATING IT AGAINST OURSELVES. AND SO AS A TEAM, UH, THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, SO HAVING SOME IDEAS ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHEN WE KNOW IT'S IT'S ON ITS SURFACE, WORKING AGAINST OUR OVERALL GROWTH STRATEGIES, UH, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S SOME REALLY CLEAR WINDS FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THIS ONE. UH, PARTICULARLY THE ADHERENCE TO THE 2010 TREE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS A BOON FOR, UH, BASE MITIGATION, UH, AS WELL AS THE OVERALL ENVIRONMENT. UH, AND CERTAINLY AIR QUALITY AS WELL AS SOME COST, UH, REVENUE SHARING, WHICH IS ABSENT. AND A HUGE FACTOR IN THAT 150,000 FIGURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE FACT THAT A COMMUNITY WHO IS NOT OBLIGATED LEGALLY TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES OF THE LOCAL URBAN COMMUNITY NOW IS CREATING A CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENT IN WHICH THEY'RE DOING JUST THAT. UH, THAT'S THE BIG CHALLENGE HERE AND WHY WE'RE NOT EXCITED ABOUT SEEING SPRAWL DEVELOPMENT OCCUR WHEN THERE'S NO UMBILICAL CORD TO THE CITY. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IN 30 YEARS, 40 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT COMMUNITY SO FAR OUT, UH, PERHAPS IS MORE AFFORDABLE, BUT ALSO IS NOT CONNECTED TO SERVICES THAT OUR URBAN CITIZENS ARE, ARE NEEDING AND, AND EXPECTING. AND SO THAT CREATES THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE SEEN TOO OFTEN IN OTHER CITIES, SUCH AS AUSTIN, WHERE YOU HAVE ACTUAL SUBURBAN POVERTY ISSUES BEGINNING TO FORM IN THE, IN THE RINGS AROUND THE, THE DENSIFIED URBAN CORE. SO, UM, I THINK THE STAFF AS WELL AS THE TEAM, AGAIN, UH, DID A GOOD JOB AND LOOKING AT THIS IN A SOBER WAY OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, COMING UP WITH SOME COMPROMISES THAT I THINK WE CAN ALL LIVE WITH, UH, IN THIS TIME. SO, UH, WITH THAT WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 38. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, THAT IS THE END OF OUR A SESSION AGENDA. WE DO HAVE [Executive Session 2] TO RESUME AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, THAT BEGAN YESTERDAY. AND SO, UH, WE WILL DO THAT AND WE WILL IN, IN, UH, DO ORDER, COME BACK TO THE CHAMBER. THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE WILL HAVE ITS SESSION AS SOON AS THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CONCLUDES. SO THE TIME IS NOW 2:08 PM ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 12TH, 2019. THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL NOW MEET IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BETWEEN TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND A LIBERATE DISCUSS ITEMS POSTED ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2019 B SESSION AGENDA, BUT NOT REACHED OR COMPLETED AT THIS TIME. ERIC, [43. 19-9071 City Manager's Report] UM, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T REALIZE THOUGH, UH, THERE WAS AN IMPORTANT CITY MANAGER ITEM THAT YOU DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT BEFORE WE BROKE UP. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT PERSON IS HERE. UM, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK EITHER ONE OF 'EM ARE HERE, MAYOR. I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. UH, I DID WANT TO RECOGNIZE, UH, RUSS HANDY. UH, RUSS IS, UM, RETIRING A SECOND TIME. UH, WILL BE A NEW GRANDFATHER. UH, RUSS STARTED WITH THE CITY IN JANUARY OF 2017, AND, UH, HE WILL BE WITH US HERE THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH. UH, HE WAS HERE EARLIER, BUT UM, HAD BUSINESS TO ATTEND TO, SO I CERTAINLY WANTED TO THANK HIM. WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF GOING THROUGH OUR PROCESS TO REPLACE HIM RIGHT NOW. AND I ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE MIKE ETAN, WHO WAS HERE EARLIER AS WELL. [03:50:01] A COUPLE OF YOU, ME, UH, MENTIONED YESTERDAY AT V SESSION. MIKE, UH, HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR 10 YEARS, HAS BEEN A, UM, A HUGE PART OF OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM. UH, MIKE HAS ACCEPTED A POSITION AS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IN VICTORIA, TEXAS. AND SO, UH, HE'LL BE TRANSITIONING, UH, LATER ON THIS MONTH. AND I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT, THAT FRANKLY THE TWO EXTREMELY, UM, RELIANT AND CAPABLE EXECUTIVES IN THIS, IN THE, FOR THE CITY. AND I WANTED TO THANK 'EM FOR THEIR SERVICE TO THE CITY. UM, THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION IS THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, WAS, UH, WE WERE, UH, NOTIFIED THIS WEEK THAT, UH, WE HAVE BECOME ACCREDITED. AND, UM, I'LL TELL YOU THAT DR. BRIDGER LOOKS COOL AND COLLECTED OVER THERE. UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK DONE BY JENNIFER HARRIET AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TEAM. SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, MET WITH THE ACCREDITORS, UH, A THURSDAY MORNING HERE, A COUPLE WEEKS, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. UH, IT MUST MUST'VE BEEN SOMETHING YOU GUYS SAID 'CAUSE UH, WE WERE ABLE TO COME THROUGH IN FLYING COLORS. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THAT'S A BADGE OF HONOR FOR US. THANKS. THAT'S RIGHT. AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS DR. BRAZER AND OUR METRO HEALTH TEAM. UH, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DOC. UH, RUSS HANDY AS WELL AS MIKE ETTI FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE SERVICE OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. UM, SMOOTH SAILING. ALRIGHT, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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