Dec 17, 2019 Zoning Commission on 2019-12-17 1:00 PM

WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PUBLIC WISHES STANDS NATION.

PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR MEETING STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE.

BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.

THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.

STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.

PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT.

PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.

FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION IN ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST.

FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.

YOU WILL BE CALLED AN ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION POSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.

YOU WILL HEAR THIS WHEN THERE ARE 30 SECONDS LEFT, YOU WILL HEAR ANOTHER BEEP AND WE WILL INFORM YOU THAT YOUR, THAT YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.

THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UM, GO OVER THE CASE OR WELL CASES THAT HAVE BEEN POSTPONED, WITHDRAWN, OR PULLED? YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE HAS BEEN POSTPONED AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED TODAY.

IT IS LOCATED OFF OF TWO 14 LOTUS AVENUE.

SO IF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT CASE, THAT WILL NOT BE HEARD AT ALL TODAY.

YOU PLEASE, UM, UH, HELP US WITH OUR COMBINED HEARING ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE? THANK YOU.

UM, WOULD

[Items 3, 7 - 9 & 16]

YES, MA'AM.

UM, THERE'S SOME ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL FROM THIS AGENDA ORIGINALLY FROM WORK SESSION.

SO WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER 11, AND NUMBER 15 THAT HAVE ALL BEEN MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

SO TODAY WE WILL BE LOOKING AT COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, WHICH INCLUDES ITEM NUMBER THREE, NUMBER SEVEN, NUMBER NINE, AND NUMBER 16.

AND IF YOU'RE READY, I CAN READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD.

YES, PLEASE.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RMM FOUR A H O D TO I DZ, TWO A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1131 SOUTH MESQUITE STREET.

THERE WERE 40 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE

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H A H O D TO I D Z ONE H A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 3 34 BURLESON STREET.

THERE WERE 36 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, EIGHT RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.

DIGNITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.

ITEM NUMBER NINE TO REZONE FROM R SIX WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO C TWO CD WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.

AND A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR.

LOCATED AT 26 14 PENN ROAD.

THERE WERE 24 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM CABLE.

WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

ITEM NUMBER 16 TO REONE FROM I TWO TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO R THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.

LOCATED AT 1811 AND 1807 BURLESON.

THERE WERE 19 NOTICES MAILED.

NONE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

MADAM CHAIR.

THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.

MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR ITEMS 3, 7, 9 AND 16.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AYE.

UH, COMBINED HEARING ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE.

YES, MA'AM.

ON THIS AGENDA, THE ITEM NUMBER 13 HAS BEEN MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL.

THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE THAT TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

SO THIS WILL BE ONE ITEM, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH I WILL NOW READ INTO THE RECORD FOR A CONTINUANCE.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM MF 33 H A H O D TO I D Z TWO H A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO AND FOR A PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION HALL AND MEETING FACILITY LOCATED AT 7 0 7 DAWSON STREET.

THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM DIGNITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

A CONTINUANCE TO JANUARY THE 21ST IS REQUESTED FOR THIS ITEM.

COMMISSIONER TOLSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER TOSEN.

I MOVE TO, UH, CONTINUANCE AS, UH, REQUESTED.

SECOND, WE HAVE A, UM, MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES, BUT I WAS NOT THE SECOND.

AGAIN, DID I CALL, DID I CALL MERRILL COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE? AYE.

MADAM CHAIR.

MOTION PASSES AND AND I'LL BE A YES TOO.

AND COMMISSIONER WHITE.

THAT HOLIDAY SPIRIT MUST BE REALLY KICKING IN .

COMMISSIONERS PATRICIA FRANCO ZONING.

UM, LET'S, UM, CONTINUE ON WITH OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON,

[2. 19-9370 (Continued from 12/03/19) ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700307 CD S ERZD (Council District 10): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 ERZD" Commercial Edwards Recharge Zone District to "C-2 CD S ERZD" Commercial Edwards Recharge Zone District with Conditional Use and Specific Use Authorization for Outside Storage on 3.439 acres out of NCB 17338, located at 17115 Redland Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Patricia Franco, Planner (210) 207-5876, patricia.franco@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department).]

ITEM TWO IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE ZONING FROM C TWO E RZ D COMMERCIAL EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE DISTRICT TO C TWO C D SS EDWARDS.

UH, E RZ D COMMERCIAL EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONAL USE AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE LOCATED AT 1 7 1 1 5 REDLAND ROAD.

SEVEN NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

ZERO RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.

AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THE AREA.

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THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL-BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE ADDED CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS FOR CONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONING DOWN OF A C THREE USE TO A C TWO DISTRICT.

IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR APPROPRIATE FOR CONDITIONS SUCH AS BUFFERING FENCING, HOURS OF OPERATION, AND RESTRICTED TEMPORARY SIGNAGE.

THE SAS REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT.

MAY WE HAVE THE SAUCE REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE? MIKE.

MIKE ANTE WITH, UH, FOR PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION.

UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE JUST POT ZONING CASE TO ALLOW OUTDOOR STORAGE AND CELL OF DECORATIVE POTS WITH, UH, SALES OFFICE AND PARKING LOT ON 3.439 ACRES.

UH, SAS RECOMMENDS NO OUTSIDE STORAGE OF ANY CHEMICALS AND APPROVAL OF 65% COVER FOR THE OVERALL 3.439 ACRE SITE.

MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? OH, OKAY.

ALRIGHT, SO THEN, UM, I HAVE MY NOTES ALREADY.

JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THIS IS THE CITY'S APPLICATION? CORRECT.

AND IS THERE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? THAT'S CORRECT.

THIS IS A CITY'S APPLICATION.

THIS WAS, UH, THE RESULTS OF A CITY COUNCIL REQUEST THAT CAME THROUGH A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

, AND THERE IS NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, I I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANY OPPOSITION.

AND, UM, I GUESS THERE WAS A DIFFERENT PIECE OF THIS PARTIAL, PARTIAL THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS SORT OF WHERE THE POTTERY STORAGE WAS LOCATED AND NOW WE'RE JUST MOVING IT TO A DIFFERENT PART OF THE PARTIAL.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IF YOU'RE LOOKING UP HERE, THIS IS WHERE IT WAS INITIALLY ZONED TO BE LOCATED ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT THEN THE COUNCIL DISTRICT CAME IN AND WOULD PREFER IT TO BE FURTHER BACK AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC VIEW.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT COUNCILMAN PERRY WANTED IT OFF OF REDLAND ROAD, CORRECT? I, I BELIEVE SO.

WELL, I'LL, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO, UM, BROWN AND ORTIZ IS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.

I I THINK BROWN AND ORTIZ REPRESENTS THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER.

WELL, JUST FOR THE RECORD, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS ON OUR MATERIAL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THEY WERE THE ORIGINAL APPLICANT WHEN, WHEN THE FIRST CASE CAME THROUGH.

AND SO BECAUSE THIS IS A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AND IT'S A MAJOR AMENDMENT AND IT'S MOVING THE POSITION OF THE OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE STORAGE, IT NEEDED TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS AGAIN.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT SO WE DON'T GET INTO ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST ISSUES.

, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO.

UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS ON MY LEFT? NO.

YEAH, I MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO, UH, TO APPROVE, UH, THE REZONING.

SECOND, WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE.

AYE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

[4. 19-9372 (Continued from 12/03/19) ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700284 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3NA RIO-2 AHOD" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales River Improvement Overlay Airport Hazard Overlay District and "I-1 RIO-2 AHOD" General Industrial River Improvement Overlay Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-3 RIO-2 AHOD" High Intensity Infill Development Zone River Improvement Overlay Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in "C-3" General Commercial and multi-family dwelling units not to exceed 325 units on Lot 7, Lot 8, Lot 9, Lot 19, Lot 20, Lot 21, Lot 28, Lot 29, north 15 feet of Lot 20, south 15 feet of Lot 31, Lot 32, Lot 33, Lot 34, Lot 35, Lot 36, Lot 40, Lot 41, and Lot 42, Block 4, NCB 6792, located at 813 East Myrtle Street, 818 East Locust Street, 1212, and 1216-1218 E. Euclid Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Mirko Maravi, Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MICHAEL PEPE.

PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LOCATED AT 1406 WEST COMMERCE IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM I ONE TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.

FULL SERVICE.

34 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

NONE WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR? NONE IN OPPOSITION.

THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR THE PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF HAS NOT FOUND

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EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATIONS TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ESTABLISH DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

MY NAME IS JAMES MICHAEL O'BRIEN.

MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'VE BEEN AT THAT PROPERTY SINCE TWO APRIL OF 2004.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS SUPPOSED TO WORK, BUT I'M GONNA SAY A LITTLE BIT ON BEHALF OF WHAT WE DO THERE.

WE HAVE A FULL AUTOMOTIVE SHOP.

I AM CURRENTLY A MASTER A S C.

UH, IN THE PAST WE WERE WORKING ON SPECTRUM VEHICLES, WHICH WE HAD STUDENTS FROM LANIER HIGH SCHOOL COME AND BE EXPOSED TO AUTOMOTIVE REPAIRS.

THE IDEA WHAT THAT WAS IS THEY DON'T GO OUT AND SPEND $25,000 ON ONE OF THESE COLLEGES TO REALIZE I DON'T WANT TO BE A MECHANIC THAT'S BEEN IN THE PAST SPECTRUM MOVED OUT BECAUSE THEY HAD NEW VEHICLES, WAS STILL THERE.

UM, THE FACILITY HAS BEEN UPGRADED.

THERE'S TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST ME AND THERE'S PLENTY OF REASONS WHY I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I GOT AND HOW, GET INTO THE DETAILS.

BUT, UH, BEING THERE FOR THIS LONG, THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR HAS THE SAME ZONING THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AND NOBODY'S APPROACHED THEM.

UH, ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WAS FROM MR. MENDOZA THAT'S HERE PRESENT.

HE SAYS THAT, UH, PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT GETTING PAID AND ITEMS LIKE THAT.

AND IF HE COULD SEE IN THE BIT OF BUSINESS BUREAU THE RATING, I GOT AN A PLUS.

I DO HAVE EVIDENCE HE'S NOT EVEN RATED IN THE BIT OF BUSINESS BUREAU.

ACTUALLY, IF YOU GOOGLE HIS BUSINESS, HE'S NOT EVEN IN GOOGLE, BUT HE DOES HAVE A VERY LARGE JUNKYARD.

THE OTHER ISSUE THAT HE HAS WITH ME, AND IF YOU ALLOW ME TO PULL THIS UP, I KNOW I GOT 30 SECONDS, BUT BACK IN 2004, HE DIDN'T PAY HIS TAXES ON ONE OF THE PROPERTIES.

THE CITY TOOK THE PROPERTY AWAY FROM HIM AND I BOUGHT IT.

HE'S MAD AT ME NOW BECAUSE I OWN HALF OF THE BLOCK.

AND THAT'S THE OTHER REASON WHY MENDOZA IS HERE AGAINST ME.

MR. VEDO, THAT'S AGAINST ME AS WELL, HAS 19 COMPLAINTS ABOUT A DOG.

AND I'VE TURNED THOSE COMPLAINTS IN.

HE MENTIONED ABOUT SOME OLD LADIES, WHICH I ALSO HAVE EVIDENCE HERE THAT WALKED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND HIS DOG IS OUT BITING PEOPLE.

UH, ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, WE HOPE TO CONTINUE DOING BUSINESS THERE.

WE DO VERY WELL FOR THE WEST SIDE.

I'M INVOLVED WITH EDISON HIGH SCHOOL AND AS WELL AS WITH THEIER HIGH SCHOOL.

AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF WE DO SOME BACKGROUND ON SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE FOR THE WEST SIDE? IF YOU COME AND VISIT MY LOCATION, IN FACT, I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GOT AMERICAN FLAG UP IN THE AIR.

YOU CAN SEE IT COMING OFF THE BRIDGE.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A BID IN WITH AMAZON PRIME TO SERVICE THE VEHICLES 'CAUSE I'M MERCEDES-BENZ CERTIFIED.

IT'S MORE MONEY FOR THE WEST SIDE.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST ME, IF YOU DO SOME BACKGROUND ON THEM, YOU MIGHT REALIZE THAT, HOLD ON, TIMEOUT.

IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE JAIL IS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO KNOCK ME DOWN RIGHT NOW.

THIS GUY'S SUING ME FOR SOMETHING THAT HE CAN'T EVEN FIND EVIDENCE.

IN HIS COMPLAINT OF THE LAWSUIT, HE TOLD THE JUDGE, WHILE I CAN'T GET MY WITNESSES, I CAN'T GET A POLICE REPORT.

AND ALL HE'S DOING IS WASTING MY TIME TRYING TO STAY POSITIVE.

BUT, UH, THAT'S EVERYTHING I GOT FOR RIGHT NOW.

BUT LATER ON I CAN COME BACK UP.

I DO HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT WANNA SPEAK ON MY BEHALF AND ONE OF THEM IS THE FLEET ADMINISTRATOR FOR SPECTRUM.

ACTUALLY, UH, TRIES TO HUMILIATE ALL THE PEOPLE.

IS THERE ANYONE, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK MENDOZA FOLLOWED BY ANTHONY TUCKER, SOUTH RICHTER.

MY ADDRESS IS ONE 16 SOUTH RICHTER.

MY NAME IS I MENDOZA.

I'VE BEEN IN THAT BUSINESS FOR 45 YEARS NOW.

I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS OR ANY LAWSUITS WITH, UH, BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU MIKE.

THIS PERSON, THE ONE I CALL THE ENEMY, IS A PERSON THAT

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UH, HE'S A A PUERTO RICAN, UH, YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS.

AND BESIDES THIS, HE'S AN ASSASSIN, A MURDERER.

HE KILLED SOMEONE AND HE SHOT AT SOMEONE ELSE.

UH, HIS PROPERTY IS, IS NEIGHBORING MY PROPERTY AND I DIDN'T LOSE IT BECAUSE OF TAXES.

I, I LOST MY PROPERTY BECAUSE OF A LAWSUIT.

GRANDFATHER CLOSE.

I HAVE HAD THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE FOR A LONG TIME.

I'M A MECHANIC AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS NOW.

I HANDLE, UH, ALL THE SOFTWARE.

I DO MECHANICS ON EVERY KIND OF HIGH-END, UH, LEVEL.

EVEN, UH, SOME OF THE, THE WORK THAT HE HAD DONE, SOME PEOPLE BROUGHT IT TO ME SO I COULD REVIEW WHAT HE HAD DONE.

I'M SPEAKING TO YOU IN SPANISH BECAUSE IT'S MY, UH, LANGUAGE, BUT I DO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT OF ENGLISH TOO.

IT'S A PERSON THAT DOES NOT CONTROL HIS, UH, VOCABULARY.

EVEN WHEN HE'S IN FRONT OF KIDS.

HE USES BAD WORDS.

AND TO HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME WOULD BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN.

I HAVEN'T EVEN LOANED MY DIAGNOSTIC MACHINES TO HIM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE THEM.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY? AND ONLY THAT IT'S UP TO YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANTHONY TUCKER, FOLLOWED BY MR. THOMAS LUHAN THOMAS.

MY NAME IS ANTHONY TUCKER.

MY ADDRESS IS 63 MONTANA BAY, SAN ANTONIO.

I'VE KNOWN MIKE RYAN FOR ABOUT 14 YEARS.

I WAS THE DRIVER WITH VIA AND I'M COMING DOWN THE HILL AND I NEEDED MY CAR.

WORKED ON, HE REPAIRING MY CAR.

HE'S BEEN REPAIRING MY CARS EVER SINCE.

I'VE NOT, I'VE GONE TO BE A GOOD FRIEND AND I'VE NOTICED THAT WHEN I COME DOWN TO HIS SHOP, HE'S ALWAYS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANYTIME I'M THERE, IT'S, HEY, TUCK, THIS IS WHAT I'M DOING.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THIS.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING.

AND AT, AT ONE POINT I WAS A PART OF IT, BUT I'M RETIRED MILITARY AND I DIDN'T WANNA WORK THAT HARD.

SO I DID, YOU KNOW, MAN, YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD, CONTINUE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND I'LL BE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU, WHATEVER YOU NEED.

SO I STILL GO TO THE SHOP REGULARLY.

AND THE ZONING THING WISE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS HIS REPAIR AND IT'S REPAIR AT THE SHOP, THAT THE WEST SIDE WOULD BE LOSING A GREAT PERSON IF THEY DIDN'T REZONE HIS SHOP BECAUSE HE DOES THE WORK AND GUARANTEED IF ONE PERSON COME OUT THERE AND NEEDS SOMETHING DONE, HE NORMALLY REPAIRS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T FIX.

SO THE WEST SIDE WOULD BE LOSING A GREAT SHOP IF THEY DIDN'T REZONE HIS SHOP.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL KIND OF LETTERS HERE FROM PEOPLE WHO HE DOES WORK FOR THAT HE AND HE CONTINUES TO DO WORK FOR.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH WHATEVER BICKERING THEY GOT GOING ON, THIS AIN'T FORM FOR IT.

LET 'EM DO WHAT THEY DO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE WHAT THEY LAST, SEE HOW THEY COME OUT BECAUSE GUARANTEED HE'S A GOOD MAN FOR THE, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS.

DUE TO THE CHANGE OF OUR FLEET, CORPORATE FLEET DECIDED TO CHANGE, UH, OUR MAIN VENDORS.

MY NAME IS LAQUA THOMAS.

ADDRESS IS 4 0 0 7 A HEIGHTS.

I'M A CURRENTLY A 23 YEAR RETIRED VETERAN.

I WORK WITH SPECTRUM COMMUNICATIONS.

I WAS THE ONE THAT REACHED OUT TO MIKE BRYANT IN REFERENCE TO, UH, PROVIDING A SERVICE FOR OUR FLEET.

UH, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.

UH, LIKE MIKE MENTIONED EARLIER,

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SO WE NO LONGER USE HIM, BUT I DID PROVIDE HIM A, A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM MYSELF AS A FLEET ADMINISTRATOR.

I SPENT 23 YEARS, LIKE I SAID, IN THE MILITARY THE ENTIRE TIME IN, UH, GENERAL MECHANICS.

SO I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY, UH, WHAT HE DOES AND HOW HE DOES IT.

UM, KIND OF ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH AS WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, LEADERSHIP STYLE.

I REALLY APPRECIATED HIS, UH, TAKE CARE ATTITUDE ON THE TECHNICIANS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMPANY TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE SAFE WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE PROVIDING A EXCELLENT PRODUCT TO OUR CUSTOMER.

MIKE BRYAN HAS BEEN, UH, PRETTY MUCH THE BACKBONE OF, OF OUR FLEET HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND UN AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO POWERS BEYOND MY CONTROL, WE ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO UTILIZE HIM.

BUT I HAVE APPRECIATED AND, AND TOLD HIM HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT HE PROVIDED AND THE WAY HE PROVIDED THAT SERVICE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

UM, MR. BRYANT, WOULD YOU LIKE ANY TIME TO RESPOND? MR. BRYANT? MR. BRYANT, WOULD YOU LIKE SOME REBUTTAL TIME? AND, UM, I'M THE DISTRICT FIVE REPRESENTATIVE.

UH, SO THIS CASE WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO ME.

LET ME SAY THAT SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS ARE NOT GERMANE AND AND WE DON'T NEED TO REHASH THOSE SO YOU CAN USE THIS, USE THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE.

BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT THE, THE, THE MURDER ACCUSATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE DON'T NEED TO BE DELVED INTO.

UH, I WOULDN'T BE HERE IF THAT WAS A SITUATION.

JUST TOUCHING A COUPLE OF BASES.

IF YOU DON'T APPROVE IT, IT'S OKAY.

STILL.

I HAVE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO MENDOZA, SO HE CAN'T GET RID OF ME.

I PAY MY TAXES.

AND ACTUALLY HE PUT A FENCE UP WITHOUT A PERMIT AND IT'S A RESIDENTIAL FENCE ON TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND HE DIDN'T PULL A ZONE.

UH, I'M GONNA CUT IT SHORT RIGHT HERE.

IF WE HAVE TO AGAIN RECONVENE, THEN I'LL PRESENT YOU GUYS AHEAD OF TIME WITH ALL THE EVIDENCE.

THAT WAY YOU CAN REVIEW THE EVIDENCE AND SAY HOLD ON, TIME OUT.

I MEAN, IF I HAVE SOME SPEAK PEOPLE SPEAKING ON MY BEHALF HERE THAT ARE UP THERE IN THE RANKS IN SAN ANTONIO.

AND YOU CAN CALL THE NEAR HIGH SCHOOL OR YOU CAN EVEN CALL EDISON, THE COACHES AND ALL THAT.

ASK THE PRINCIPAL.

I HAVE PICTURES OF THERE.

UH, THAT PRETTY MUCH CUTS IT IN A NUTSHELL.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

ALRIGHT, MR. BRYANT, UM, AND THIS MIGHT BE EITHER FOR YOU OR FOR STAFF, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DID SORT OF JUMP OUT TO ME WAS THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE REPAIR.

UM, ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING OVERSIZED VEHICLE REPAIR AT THIS LOCATION? OVERSIZE IS CONSIDERED, BUT MICHAEL AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT FOUR FIFTIES.

THOSE ARE THE BUCKET TRUCKS THAT EITHER C P S ENERGY, WHICH I HAVE, I'M A VENDOR FOR C P S ENERGY OR, UH, SPECTRUM.

SO NOT LIKE RVS? NO, SIR.

THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUSES, NOT EVEN THAT WE USED TO DO THE BUSES FOR.

UH, THEY JUST OPENED UP A, A BIG PLACE AND IT JUST GOT TOO BULKY TO BE ABLE TO BRING THE BUSES IN.

NOT AT ALL.

NO BUSES.

ANYTHING ABOVE A FOUR 50 AT ALL? NO.

AND JUST SO I CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND THIS LAYOUT, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUR PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH THERE ON COMMERCE, MR. MENDOZA, THAT PROPERTY TO THE LEFT RIGHT? OR THE ONE THAT'S SORT OF RIGHT THERE IN THAT CORNER? IF WE'RE LOOKING DOWN ON IT, HEY, MR. MENDOZAS WOULD BE RIGHT THERE WHERE THE ARROW IS AT THIS POINT.

AT THAT POINT, THAT BLOCK RIGHT THERE IS HIS, THEN YOU HAVE THE NEXT LOT NEXT TO IT IS HIS, AND THE REST OF THAT IS MINE TO THE RIGHT.

SO I WOULD SAY, UH, I GOT THE HOUSES ALL THE WAY TO THE FAR ON ON, UH, 1, 2, 1 SAN MARCUS.

LET ME ASK A MORE PRECISE QUESTION THEN.

TRYING TO GET ORIENTED.

WHO OWNS 1402? UH, THAT'S SOMEBODY ELSE AND THERE THAT GOT THE SAME ZONING THAT I HAVE, BUT HE'S A RENTER.

AND HE DOES, HE DOES THE SAME THING THAT I DO, ACTUALLY.

HE DOESN'T HAVE THE SPACE.

UM, AND YOU SAID, HAVE YOU BEEN DOING SORT OF FULL CAR CARE SINCE 2004? NO, 2001 SIR.

APRIL OF 2001 AT THIS LOCATION? YES SIR.

SO HAD YOU RECEIVED ANY OTHER NOTIFICATION AT THAT POINT THAT YOU WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING? NO.

WHAT WAS IT THAT BROUGHT YOU TO THE ZONING COMMISSION TO SEE THIS? THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR GOT MAD AT ME AND HE FILED A COMPLAINT.

SO THEN WE WENT AND TALKED TO, UH, PERMITS AND THEN THEY LOOKED UP THE ZONING AND THEY SAID WE NEED TO REZONE IT.

AND I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE REZONING.

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STAFF.

WAS THAT CORRECT? PEPPY, MR. PEPPY.

EXCUSE ME.

IT WAS MICHELLE THAT SENT ME A LETTER.

NO, WE DIDN'T, I DIDN'T FIND ANY OTHER EVIDENCE OF A CODE, UH, CITATION.

SO.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, I'LL OPEN IT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.

THANK IT.

UH, BITS AND PIECES COME TOGETHER TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT'S TRANSPIRING OUT THERE.

UM, I'M MORE CONCERNED ACTUALLY WITH KIND OF THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS.

CAN YOU TELL ME MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, WHAT ARE YOUR WORKING HOURS? WE'RE OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM NINE O'CLOCK UNTIL EIGHT O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

AND ABOUT HOW MANY VEHICLES DO YOU HAVE ON A DAILY BASIS? COMING IN OR OUT? THREE OR FOUR FOR RIGHT NOW.

UM, LIKE MENDOZA SAID, I'M FROM PUERTO RICO.

HOW DOES PUERTO RICO MAKE MONEY? TOURISM, THAT'S WHY I'M OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS.

WHAT COMES TO SAN ANTONIO? TOURISM.

THE HOTELS KNOW ME VERY WELL.

SO IF SOMEBODY HAS A FLAT TIRE, SOMEBODY NEEDS A CAR FIXED OR SOMETHING ON THE WEEKENDS, THE HOTELS KNOW TO CALL ME.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BIG DIFFERENCE.

AT THE SAME TIME, I'M RAISING A 16 YEAR OLD, SO HE'S NOT IN SCHOOL ON THE WEEKENDS, I CAN ACTUALLY FOCUS ON THE BUSINESS.

TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THOUGH, WHAT, SO I UNDERSTAND YOU WON'T BE WORKING ON OVERSIZED SEMI TRACTOR TRAILERS.

NO, MA'AM.

AND BUSES AND NO, MA'AM.

NONE OF THAT.

IT'S, IT'S THE SAME THING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR THE LAST 19 YEARS.

HONDAS, TOYOTAS, MERCEDES-BENZ B AND BMWS.

UH, AND THE BUCKET TRUCKS, THE SMALL ONES THAT YOU SEE INSTALLING CABLE OR WORKING NOT THE ONE TONS, MOSTLY COMMERCIAL KIND OF VEHICLES.

NO, IT'S MORE CIVILIAN THAN COMMERCIAL.

IT'S, IT'S MORE, UH, UH, REGULAR CUSTOMERS THAN COMMERCIAL.

UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

SO WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE, IS THERE A WAY TO, UM, CONDITION THE TYPES OF VEHICLES? TYPES OF VEHICLES CANNOT BE A, A CONDITION.

UH, BUT WHAT, WHAT CAN BE CONDITIONED IS RELATED TO THE LAND HOURS OF OPERATION, BUFFERS, FENCING, THOSE ARE THE ISSUE.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU, YOU CAN DO.

NUMBER OF VEHICLES IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ENFORCE ALSO, UH, WHERE THEY'RE PARKED AT ON THE PROPERTY.

SOMETHING WE CAN ENFORCE, BUT NOT TYPES OF VEHICLES.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

UM, SO THIS DOES SEEM A LITTLE CONTENTIOUS AND, AND PROBABLY WHAT GIVES ME THE GREATEST PAUSE, OF COURSE, IS THAT THERE IS A BIG PUSH WITHIN DISTRICT FIVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CAR REPAIR SERVICES WE HAVE IN DISTRICT FIVE.

I THINK THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE AS WE LOOK AT THIS AS SORT OF THE GATEWAY TO DISTRICT FIVE COMING OVER THAT BRIDGE ON COMMERCE AND TO DISTRICT FIVE.

HOWEVER, UM, IN THIS CASE, GIVEN THAT YOU HAVE BEEN THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND LET ME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION BEFORE I SAY THIS.

UM, AND YOU'VE BEEN OPERATING ON THAT SORT OF NINE TO EIGHT, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK DURING THAT ENTIRE TIME, THE LAST FOUR YEARS WHEN SPECTRUM CAME IN, OKAY.

UH, RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT? UM, NO.

I THINK IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WERE UNAWARE THAT YOU WERE ACTING OUTSIDE OF YOUR ZONING, THAT THE FIRST, UH, COMPLAINT YOU RECEIVED WAS ACTED UPON TO MAKE IT RIGHT.

I'M GONNA FOLLOW, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH I APPRECIATE, AND WHICH IN THE CASE OF CAR AND TRUCK REPAIRS, I DON'T ALWAYS FOLLOW.

UM, AND MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE AYE.

COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE?

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AFTERNOON, MARCO RAVI, SENIOR PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

[5. 19-8790 (Continued from 11/19/19) ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700263 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "RM-4 AHOD" Residential Mixed Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-2 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for three (3) dwelling units on Lot 19, Block 18, NCB 665, located at 1131 South Mesquite Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner (210) 207-7945, lorianne.thennes, Development Services Department)]

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT EIGHT 13 EAST MYRTLE, EIGHT 18 EAST LOCUST TWO 12 AND TWO 16 THROUGH TWO 18 EAST EUCLID.

47.

NOTICES WERE SENT OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

FIVE, UH, IN FAVOR, SIX OPPOSED.

AND TOMAN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.

UH, STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS CHANGING ZONE REQUEST.

UH, THE PROPOSED USES CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, ESTABLISHED PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR MICHELLE HOUSEMAN WITH LAND USE SOLUTIONS REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS AFTERNOON.

THE PROJECT TEAM INCLUDES SEBO DEVELOPMENT, WHO'S THE DEVELOPER, GINSLER ARCHITECTS AND LAND USE SOLUTIONS IS MY COMPANY.

AND I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND THE REZONING PROCESS.

THE PROCESS WE BEGAN WITH ARE THE IMAGES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, WHICH ARE THE REFERENCE IMAGERY OF THE STREET SCAPES AND THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS, PRIOR TO SUBMITTING A ZONING CASE AS WELL AS AN H D R C REQUEST, WE WENT THROUGH A, UM, AN EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROCESS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS.

THE DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF ONE AND A HALF ACRES.

IT IS A PROPOSED MIXED USE PROJECT WITH MULTI-FAMILY AND RETAIL 325 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, 14,000 FEET OF RETAIL, STRUCTURED PARKING ON SITE CONTAINING 400 PARKING SPACES AND 120 FEET IN HEIGHT.

THIS IS A CROSS SECTION FROM THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.

LOOKING BACK AT THE PROJECT, IT IS TOPOGRAPHICALLY ACCURATE.

SO THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE.

YOU CAN SEE THE PEARL OFFICE BUILDING IN THE BACKGROUND, THE HOTEL EMMA AND THE SELLERS TO GIVE YOU A, UH, IDEA OF WHAT THE PROJECT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

THIS IS A RENDERING PUT TOGETHER BY GINSLER THAT SHOWS THE FIRST THREE FLOORS THAT ARE ALL SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.

FIRST FLOOR GROUND, UH, GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, TWO ABOVE GROUND FLOORS OF PARKING.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, UM, UPPER FLOORS AS MULTIFAMILY.

AND YOU SEE THE AMENITY SPACE THAT IS ALONG EUCLID.

THIS IS A PERSPECTIVE SHOWING THE IDEA OF THE LARGE 15 TO 25 FOOT STREET SCAPES THAT INCLUDED A PEDESTRIAN AREA, STREET TREES.

A FEW PARALLEL PARKING SPACES WERE ADDED AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE OUTDOOR SEATING FOR RETAIL.

AND ALONG MYRTLE STREET IS BASICALLY TOBIN HILLS, UH, CONNECTIVITY TO THE PEARL.

SO WE WANTED TO HAVE A, A VERY GOOD STREETSCAPE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO WALK TO THE PEARL DISTRICT.

THIS, UM, SUMMARIZES OUR REQUEST.

IT'S A REZONING.

WE DID NOT HAVE TO REQUEST A PLAN AMENDMENT, SO WE WERE JUST HERE FOR WITH YOU AT ZONING COMMISSION.

THESE ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS WE MET WITH, THE TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SILVER VENTURES.

I MAILED LETTERS TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THE ZONING CASE.

SO WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM AND UNDERSTAND ANY CONCERNS.

BEFORE COMING TO YOU TODAY, WE DID ALSO VOLUNTARILY SUBMIT AN H D R C CONCEPTUAL REVIEW APPLICATION, WHICH AS OF NOVEMBER OF 2018, WHEN THE I D Z RULES WERE CHANGED, UM, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ACTUALLY DESIGN THE PROJECT AND PRESENT IT TO H D R C FOR THE MASSING AND THE MEETING OF THE RIO TWO DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND SO H D R C UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THAT REQUEST.

AND ALSO WE SUBMITTED DEMOLITION PERMITS FOR PRELIMINARY REVIEW TO ENSURE THERE WAS NO HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE ON THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO COMING TO ZONING COMMISSION.

SO WE HAVE THOSE LETTERS APPROVED AS WELL.

THIS SHOWS THE BLUE STAR WITH THE PROPERTIES LOCATED.

AND THE PINK IS THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION BOUNDARY.

THIS IS, UM, AN EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS THE, AGAIN, I REACHED OUT TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

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THE PROPERTIES IN THE GREEN HAVE INDICATED SUPPORT OR NO OPPOSITION.

AND AS OF YESTERDAY, UM, THERE WERE SIX NOTICES MAILED BY THE RED THAT YOU SEE.

THEY'RE PART OF THE SOJO CROSSING, UM, TOWN HOMES.

AND WE DID MEET WITH THEM A FEW TIMES AND WENT THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THEM AS WELL.

AND THERE ARE SIX OF THOSE OWNERS THAT, UM, DID SUBMIT OPPOSITION.

THIS WAS THE PROPERTY BOUND BY FOUR STREETS.

THEY'RE ALL COMMERCIAL USES ON THE SITE AS WELL AS ADJACENT TO THE SITE.

UH, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THESE STRUCTURES, UM, LOOK LIKE SINGLE FAMILY, BUT THEY ARE NOT, THEY'RE ALL COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL IN NATURE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY.

AND THIS IS THE LOZANO PROPERTY.

IT IS ADJACENT TO OURS.

AND, UM, WE HAVE A SUPPORT LETTER FROM MR. LOZANO.

AND THESE ARE THE STRUCTURES ON HIS LAND, THE PROPERTY C THREE AND A AND I ONE.

SO TODAY YOU COULD HAVE, UM, INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES AND INDUSTRIAL USES.

AND WE THOUGHT IN THE DEVELOPER THOUGHT IN LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY IN THE VICINITY, THAT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR, UM, THE ABILITY TO HAVE A PROJECT THAT HAS GROUND FLOOR RETAIL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY TO SERVE THE DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY AND THE PEARL DISTRICT FOR ATTRACTING EMPLOYERS TO SAN ANTONIO AND GIVING PEOPLE HOUSING OPTIONS.

SO THEY HAVE 325 OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE NEAR WHERE THEY WORK.

THE RIO TWO OVERLAY DISTRICT ALLOWS 125 FEET IN HEIGHT.

YOU SEE DOWN ON EUCLID ON THE EAST SIDE TOWARDS PEARL AND INCLUDING PEARL IS IN RIO.

TWO ON THE WEST SIDE IS NOT INCLUDED IN RIO TWO.

SO A BUILDING THAT COULD BE BUILT TODAY HAS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 120 FEET.

THIS IS THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS.

UM, THE DARK BROWN DESIGNATION IS FOR HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE.

AND AGAIN, AS YOU SEE THAT SAME, UM, DESIGNATION OF EUCLID TO THE EAST HAS THE HIGH DENSITY.

AND THEN OVER TO THE WEST IS THE LOWER DENSITY INTO THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE MIDTOWN REGIONAL, UH, REGIONAL LAND USE PLAN BACK IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, AND THEY DESIGNATED IT AS REGIONAL MIXED USE, WHICH MATCHES THE TOBIN HILL PLAN.

SO IT WAS TO ENCOURAGE A MIX OF USES AND HIGH DENSITY IN THIS VICINITY.

UM, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HOUSING FOR WORKERS.

OUR COMMUNITY, UM, OUTREACH PROCESS INCLUDED, AGAIN, MEETING WITH THE TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE SOJO CROSSING OWNERS, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS.

THIS IS A QUICK LIST OF, UM, THE ELEMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING OUR PROCESS.

SO THE FIRST THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT WAS THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS WERE DESIGNED AT THE FRONT END OF THE PROCESS.

UM, AND THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY H D R C.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A VISION, IT'S IT'S AN ACTUAL PROJECT THAT GINSLER HAS DESIGNED SO THE NEIGHBORS AND THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT'S COMING.

UM, WE REPLACED 56 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH 100 PARKING SPACES.

ORIGINALLY THERE WAS ONLY ONE BELOW GROUND LEVEL OF PARKING AND TWO ABOVE.

AND THEN LISTENING TO TOBIN HILL, THEY WANTED TO ENSURE THERE WAS ENOUGH PARKING.

SO THE DEVELOPER TOOK OUT ONE FLOOR RESIDENTIAL AND, UM, REPLACED IT WITH PARKING.

UM, SCREENING THE GARAGE PORTIONS, THAT WAS ONE THING WE TALKED WITH H D R C.

SO THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS WRAPPED.

THIS, UH, GARAGE WILL BE SCREENED AND LOOK LIKE RETAIL ON ALL SIDES.

UM, SAFETY FEATURES OF THE DRIVEWAYS THAT, UM, WE HAVE TWO, UH, VEHICULAR DRIVES TO ENSURE THAT IF PEDESTRIANS ARE CROSSING THEY'RE SAFE, UH, ENSURE THAT WE HAVE BICYCLE PARKING.

AND THEN FOR THE SOJO CROSSING TOWN HOMEOWNERS, UM, WE ADDED A 10 FOOT SETBACK ABOVE THE 35 FEET IN HEIGHT FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY PORTION OF THE BUILDING ON MYRTLE.

SO THE TALLER PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS SET BACK FROM THEIR PROPERTY.

WE DELETED A SERVICE DRIVE ON MYRTLE SINCE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING ANY VEHICLES AT ALL ON MYRTLE STREET.

WE ACTUALLY MOVED IT TILL ALMIRA AND I TALKED TO SILVER VENTURES SINCE THEIR PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET.

THEY WERE OKAY WITH HAVING THE DRIVE MOVED, AND THAT ALSO PROVIDES A CLEAR PEDESTRIAN PATH WITH NO CARS FOR ALL OF TOBAN HILL TO GET TO PEARL.

UM, WE ALSO, UM, THE ADDED PARALLEL PARKING SPACES, THE SOJO CROSSING OWNERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING.

THEY HAVE PARALLEL ON THEIR SIDE.

THEY WANNA ENSURE WE HAD PARALLEL ON OUR SIDE.

SO, UM, WITHIN THAT 15 FOOT STREET SCAPE, WE ACTUALLY PUT IN FOUR PARALLEL PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF THE RETAIL SO SOMEONE COULD PULL AND GET A COFFEE AND LEAVE, NOT HAVE TO GO INTO THE GARAGE.

UM, WE CONFIRMED THROUGH A, A SHADE STUDY THAT THIS BUILDING WILL NOT SHADE THE SOJO CROSSING TOWN HOMES AT ANY TIME OF THE YEAR.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDED INFORMATION ON THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM SO THEY COULD GET, UM, STICKERS ON THEIR CARS SO THEY COULD HAVE PARKING ON THE STREET.

SO THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT YOU SEE, THE ACCESS POINT ONTO MYRTLE.

THIS IS THE NEW PLAN WHERE IT NOW HAS THE ACCESS POINT ONTO ELMIRA AND THAT GREEN SPACE, WE DIDN'T PUSH THE BUILDING OVER WHEN WE TOOK OUT THE DRIVE.

WE SIMPLY LEFT IT AS

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AN AREA OF POSSIBILITY FOR OUTDOOR SEATING AND COMMUNITY AREA, WHICH YOU SEE THERE IN THE GREEN.

AGAIN, TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, WE INCREASED THE PARKING SPACES TO 400.

AND WE ALSO ADDED PARALLELS ON ALMIRA AND, OR SORRY, ON, UM, MYRTLE AND ON LUCAS.

THIS WAS THE, UM, SAFETY FOR THE PARKING WHEN CARS WERE LEAVING THE PROJECT, THE IMAGERY THAT GENSLER PUT TOGETHER FOR THE SCREENING OF THE GARAGE.

SO, AND HAVING AN ENTRANCE SO IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE, UM, A USABLE SPACE, NOT JUST A PARKING GARAGE.

AGAIN, THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE SOJO CROSSING, UH, COMMUNITY.

AND WE SHOWED THEM THESE EXHIBITS.

SO THEIR PROJECT YOU SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT, AND THEN THERE'S A STREET SCAPE OF 60 FEET, AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS HERE ON THE LEFT.

AND THE ADDITIONAL SETBACK YOU SEE, THE UM, FIRST THREE FLOORS OF THE PROJECT WILL NOT CONTAIN UNITS.

SO THEY WON'T HAVE TENANTS LIVING WITHIN THEM AND PEERING INTO THE ACTUAL, UM, UNITS ACROSS THE STREET.

THAT WILL BE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, TWO LEVELS OF PARKING.

AND THEN THE MULTIFAMILY WILL BE SET BACK ANOTHER 10 FEET AT THEIR REQUEST.

AND THEN GINSLER PUT THIS TOGETHER.

THIS, UM, COMPUTER IMAGERY IS AMAZING THESE DAYS.

THIS ACTUALLY SHOWS IF YOU'RE INSIDE A UNIT AND A PERSON IS LOOKING OUT, THEY'D BE ACTUALLY LOOKING OVER THE TOP OF THEIR BUILDING, NOT STRAIGHT INTO THE BUILDING.

AND THEN THIS IS THE RECONFIGURED DRIVE, UM, THAT WE WORKED ON WITH THEM TO NOT HAVE IT ONTO MYRTLE STREET AND ONE ISSUE, SOLAR THERAPY.

UM, HE OWNS A, A BUILDING THAT IS RIGHT ADJACENT TO SOJO CROSSING.

HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION AND ANY TYPE OF VIBRATIONS THAT, UH, MIGHT BE CAUSED.

AND PROJECT CONTROL IS THE, UH, IS REPRESENTED BY THE DEVELOPER AND THEY'LL GO THROUGH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION.

THEY'LL PUT MONITORS OUT THERE, SO IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION VIBRATIONS THEY CAN TELL IMMEDIATELY AND WE'LL ADDRESS ANY SORT OF ISSUES.

AND SO ON THE REVISED ZONING, EXCUSE ME, ZONING SITE PLAN, I D Z GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY NOTATE WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS.

SO IT'LL HAVE A 325 UNIT MAXIMUM FOR RESIDENTIAL 120 FEET HEIGHT, THE 10 FOOT SETBACK ON LONG MYRTLE STREET, THE 400 PARKING SPACES AND THE PERMITTED USES STAFF RECOMMENDED C THREE USES, WHICH ARE, UM, ALLOWED TODAY.

BUT INSTEAD WE PROPOSE THE C TWO USES IN ORDER WE DON'T, SINCE IT'S A MULTIFAMILY AND GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, WE DON'T NEED PAWN SHOPS OR AUTO USES OR ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF HIGH INTENSE USES.

SO WE RECOMMEND C TWO, UM, TO AMEND THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO C TWO.

AND WE ADDED SOME OF THESE USES.

AND, UH, WORKING WITH MS. HERNANDEZ, WE WANTED TO ENSURE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE LIKE A WINE BAR THAT IS 2000 SQUARE FEET ON THE FIRST FLOOR RESTAURANT.

SO WE HAD TO ADD BAR TAVERN WITHOUT COVER CHARGE, NIGHTCLUB WITH COVER CHARGE.

WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY HAVING NIGHTCLUBS.

THESE ARE LITERALLY JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE, UM, A GROUND FLOOR WINE BAR.

AND THEN, UM, THE EXTENDED, SAY HOTEL MOTEL AND TIMESHARES THAT IS ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY HAVING THE ABILITY TO, UM, LEASE OUT TO AN EMPLOYER AND BE ABLE TO HAVE UNITS THAT, UM, CAN BE USED IN THAT MANNER.

AND MASSAGE PARLORS LIKE A, UM, MASSAGE NV OR AN ELEMENTS MASSAGE AND MEDICAL HOSPITAL OR SANITARIUM THAT IS A MED SPA FOR BOTOX AND THAT SORT OF THING.

UH, SOUND RECORDING STUDIOS.

IF THERE'S AN ARTIST THAT WANTED TO LEASE A SMALL SPACE CLUB, PRIVATE CLUB IS LIKE CLUB OT AND BASICALLY OFFICE WAREHOUSE IS JUST OFFICE SPACE.

SO THAT IS OUR AMENDED REQUEST, UM, TO THE COMMISSION.

AND THESE ARE STAFF'S CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL.

THEY FOUND THAT, UM, THE MIDTOWN REGIONAL AREA PLAN AND REGIONAL MIXED USE IS, UM, ACCEPTABLE FOR THIS I D Z THREE ZONING REQUEST.

THERE ARE NO ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.

UM, IT IS A SUITABLE, UM, ZONING DISTRICT BASED ON THE REGIONAL MIXED USE AND DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON HEALTH SAFETY WELFARE.

AND THEN AGAIN, ALL OF THE PUBLIC POLICY AND THE SIZE OF THE TRACT, UM, STAFF FOUND THAT IT DOES MEET ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO IN CONCLUSION, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

WE HAVE H D R C CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.

UM, TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE HERE TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT.

WE DO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER SUPPORT.

AND WELL, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

OUR WHOLE TEAM IS HERE, GENSLER DEVELOPER, UM, ARCHITECT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

APPRECIATE IT.

WE HAVE JOSEPH O'BRIEN, FOLLOWED BY RICHARD MOORE.

IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR SERVING ON,

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ON THIS COMMISSION.

I'VE SERVED ON COMMITTEES AND BOARDS AND IT IS OFTENTIMES A VERY THANKLESS JOB.

AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF, UM, FOR ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING THAT YOU GUYS DO.

AND ALSO I APPRECIATE THE INPUT THAT, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE ON THIS PROJECT.

MY NAME IS SCOTT O'BRIEN.

I LIVE AT 8 0 6 EAST MYRTLE STREET.

SO I'M IMMEDIATELY OF CROSS MYRTLE FROM THE PROPOSED, UM, DEVELOPMENT.

SO CERTAINLY WITHIN THE 200, 200 FEET OF THE, OF THE PROJECT.

YOU KNOW, THE PEARL IS AN ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC, UM, PART OF SAN ANTONIO, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR KICK GOLDS BERRY'S INCREDIBLE VISION TO TRANSFORM WHAT USED TO BE AN EYESORE, UM, TO A CULINARY AND CULTURAL, UM, CENTERPIECE FOR THE CITY.

I'M GRATEFUL ALSO FOR THE CITY, FOR EXTENDING THE, THE RIVER WALK UP TO THE, UM, UP TO THE PEARL AND BEYOND.

I MEAN, I WOULD NOT LIVE WHERE I LIVE IF IT WASN'T FOR THIS REDEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M IN FAVOR OF CONTINUED, UM, REDEVELOPMENT ALONG THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER, BUT I REALLY RESPECTFULLY ADVISE THE CITY TO NOT GO TOO FAR WITH REZONING.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW AND VERY SMALL SPACE REALLY FROM, UM, THAT IS PRIMARILY, I MEAN, VERY LARGELY SINGLE FAMILY, UM, RESIDENTIAL WITH VERY, VERY LIGHT, UM, COMMERCIAL AND NOTHING ABOVE THREE STORIES RIGHT NOW.

SO IT'S A REALLY COOL AREA ALONG THE RIVER THAT I JUST, I LOVE, I LOVE LIVING IN.

AND I THINK THAT REZONING, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO I D Z THREE IS QUITE HONESTLY A MISTAKE.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S WORK ON THIS MATTER AND RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH, UH, THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE.

YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY I BELIEVE ITEMS ONE AND TWO ON THE REASONS FOR THE APPROVAL.

UM, I I JUST RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THOSE.

UM, THE REZONING IS QUITE INCONSISTENT WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN HEIGHT AND DENSITY.

I ALSO DISAGREE WITH THE STAFF'S STATEMENT THAT THEY DO NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTED.

LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE AREA, MORE THAN THREE STORIES, UM, IN THIS PORTION OF THE RIVER.

I'M CERTAINLY CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEBODY LOOKING INTO MY BEDROOM FROM ACROSS THE STREET.

UH, BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING.

UM, WE ALREADY HAVE ON BUSY PEARL DAYS, IT'S ALREADY REALLY CONGESTED OVER THERE.

AND BY THE OLD ZONING, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD REQUIRE 523 SPACES.

AND I REALIZED THAT I D Z THREE IS 50% OF THAT.

BUT MY QUESTION IS, WHERE DO THE OTHER CARS GO? YOU KNOW, I I I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH WE JUST SAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA CUT IT IN HALF, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE CARS GO AWAY, IT JUST MEANS THEY HAVE TO PARK SOMEWHERE ELSE IF THEY'RE THERE.

AND OUR STREETS JUST CAN'T ACCOMMODATE, UM, THAT KIND OF PARKING.

UH, IN ADDITION, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE I D Z THREE DOES ALLOW FOR BARS TAVERNS, UM, NIGHTCLUBS OR WHATEVER, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THOSE BELONG 30 SECONDS, UH, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I RESPECTFULLY, UH, ASKED THE COMMISSION, UM, TO DENY THIS REZONING.

RICHARD MOORE, FOLLOWED BY BLAINE TUCKER.

I'M RICHARD MOORE, 1806 MCCULLOUGH.

I'M PRESENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 1979.

I ALSO SERVED FIVE YEARS ON THE RIVER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT GRANTED THE BEAUTIFUL IMPROVEMENT OF OUR RIVER FROM LEXINGTON ALL THE WAY TO THE PEARL.

I'M ALSO A PRACTICING ARCHITECT AND LIVED 53 YEARS.

I'M STILL THERE AT TOBIN HILL.

I'VE SEEN TOBIN HILL DEVELOP.

I WAS PART OF THE TOBIN HILL PLAN FOR MANY YEARS.

GOOD DEVELOPMENT AND BAD DEVELOPMENT.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU AND, AND SO BEAUTIFULLY AND ELOQUENTLY, THE DEVELOPERS HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS RARE SOMETIMES TO COME IN AND SAY, NO, WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

AND, AND WE DON'T LISTEN TO IT.

THIS GROUP HERE HAS BEEN EXCEPTIONAL IN COMMUNICATING WITH TOBIN HILL, AND YOU SAW HOW WELL PREPARED THEY ARE.

AS AN ARCHITECT, I'M ELATED TO SEE GENSLER, WHICH IS AN INTERNATIONALLY WELL, WELL ESTABLISHED ARCHITECTURAL FIRM TO DO THE THIS PROJECT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

THIS WILL BE THE FIRST, FIRST CLASS ARCHITECTURAL DEVELOPMENT IN TOBIN HILL.

I'M TIRED OF SEEING STICK CONSTRUCTION IN TOBIN HILL HIGH DENSITY WITH NO REGARD TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS A PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE THAT WILL BE COMPLEMENTING TOBIN HILL.

SO I URGE

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THIS COMMISSION.

SOME OF YOU ARE NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS.

I'VE BEEN COMING TO THIS PLACE FOR 53 YEARS.

IT CHANGES EVERY SO OFTEN, DIFFERENT OPINIONS, BUT I REALLY URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE IN HANSEN TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD TOBIN HILL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BLAINE TUCKER, FOLLOWED BY JAMES GRIFFIN.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS STAFF.

I'M BLAINE TUCKER HERE FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, T H C A.

THE PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR HIS ZONING CHANGES IN TOBIN HILL.

AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT OUTLINING THE CHANGES IN THE PROPOSED REVIEW BY THE T H C ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, T H C A RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED CHANGE.

WE FIND THE RE THAT THE REQUEST FOR THE CHANGE IN RELATION TO THE MIDTOWN REGIONAL PLAN, AS WELL AS THE TOKEN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS APPROPRIATE.

THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE T H C A AND THE GREATER COMMUNITY ON DEVELOPING THE PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE MADE CHANGES BASED ON COMMUNITY SUGGESTIONS.

T H C LOOKS FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT PROCESS AS THE PROJECT PROCEEDS.

JAMES GRIFFIN, FOLLOWED BY ERIC.

CHRIS ERIC.

HI, JAMES GRIFFIN, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN, UM, REPRESENT A PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S JUST CATTYCORNER FROM THIS PROJECT, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT.

I THINK THE, THE DENSITY, THE USES, THE DESIGN, UM, ALL WITH THAT COMMUNITY INPUT IS, IS REALLY GREAT FOR THIS AREA.

UH, AND WILL PROBABLY BE, UM, UH, ON THEIR HEELS WITH A SIMILAR, SIMILAR PROJECT.

UH, THE REDEVELOPMENT IN THIS MEDIATED AREA, UM, IS, UH, REALLY I THINK DOING A GOOD JOB, UM, STARTING WITH WHAT MICHELLE AND HER TEAM HAVE DONE.

SO WANNA EXPRESS MY SUPPORT AS WELL.

CHRIS ERIC, FOLLOWED BY GREG PORTER.

HI, CHRIS RK, UH, I OWN PROPERTY AT 1 0 2 WEST JOSEPHINE, JUST TWO BLOCKS FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE GROWING PAINS OF A, OF A VIBRANT AND EXPANDING CITY.

UH, BUT FORTUNATELY WE HAVE A GUIDELINE.

THE CITY PLANNERS AND TOBIN HILL ASSOCIATION WISELY PREDICTED THE FUTURE OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE RIVER.

THIS PROJECT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAD IN MIND WHEN THEY PROCLAIM THAT THIS AREA SHOULD ALLOW 10 STORY BUILDINGS.

THE CHALLENGE IS THAT THIS IS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND OVER THERE, SO I CAN SEE WHERE THAT WOULD CAUSE SOME CONCERN.

UM, I'M PERSONALLY DEVELOPING MY PROPERTY AT 1 0 2 WEST JOSEPHINE, AND WE'LL BE BACK TO YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO TALK ABOUT A 10 STORY PROPERTY THERE AS WELL.

SO I, I KNOW THAT THE ENTIRE SIDE OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.

THE, THE SOJO PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET WAS PREVIOUSLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL.

IT WAS CHANGED FROM INDUSTRIAL TO MULTIFAMILY.

UM, THE OPPORTUNITY WAS THERE TO GO TO 10 STORIES ON THAT PROPERTY AS WELL, BUT THE DEVELOPER CHOSE TO GO TO A THREE STORY PROJECT THERE.

UM, AS OUR CITY CHANGES AND WE NEED MORE SPACE AND THE PLAN ALLOWS FOR THIS TYPE OF STRUCTURE, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS.

AND ESPECIALLY THIS ONE RIGHT NOW, IT'S WHAT THIS CITY NEEDS.

YOU GREG PORTER, FOLLOWED BY YAMAN COLLIER.

THAT THE SOHO DEVELOPMENT, WHERE IT'S JUST REALLY THE ONLY OPPOSITION THAT WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY COULD HAVE DONE WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO.

MY NAME'S GREG PORTER.

I'M, UH, ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S SUBJECT TO BE REZONED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE'RE OBVIOUSLY SYMPATHETIC.

I DO SOME DEVELOPMENT IN AUSTIN AND HAVE DONE SOME PROJECTS ADJACENT TO NEW CONDO.

IT'S ALWAYS NEW CONDOS WHERE NEIGHBORS MOVE IN AND DON'T WANT TO SEE THINGS CHANGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT, UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE STUDIED ABOUT THE PEARL AND JUST WHAT THE CITY'S INTENTION IS WITH RIO TWO IS IT'S, IT WAS GERMANE THAT THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE GONNA HAPPEN HERE.

IT DOESN'T EXTEND INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY PORTION.

AND CANDIDLY, THESE LOTS ARE INDUSTRIAL, THEY'RE EYESORE AND YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF DENSITY, THE CITY LOOKS AT OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE DENSITY CLOSE TO PLACES LIKE THE PEARL.

AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.

WE DON'T WANT THIS TO PUSH INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBOR.

IT JUST SO HAPPENS

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AND I THINK THEY JUST DIDN'T EXPECT THINGS TO CHANGE THERE.

SO WHILE I RESPECT WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, IT SEEMS LIKE A, A NATURAL, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO START THE PROCESS WEST OF THE RIVER AND REALLY BRING SOME DENSITY TO THE AREA AND SERVE, UH, THE EMPLOYERS THAT NEED TO HIRE PEOPLE.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOME SMALLER UNITS THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE SOME MORE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TOO, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY EXIST, I THINK, IN THE AREA.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT IT WILL TRULY BE SOMETHING THAT WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING TOO, MEETING THE CODE AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED FOR THERE TOO.

SO THANK YOU GUYS.

YAMAN COLLIER.

UH, MY NAME IS YEAMAN COLLIER.

I LIVE AT 8 0 8 TLE STREET IMMEDIATELY ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

UH, MY COMMENTS THIS AFTERNOON WILL BE BRIEF CONSIDERING THE VERY THOROUGH AND THOUGHTFUL, UH, RESPONSE OF MY NEIGHBOR SCOTT O'BRIEN EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON.

HIS COMMENTS CAPTURE, WELL, THE SENTIMENTS OF MANY OF THE HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR, UH, SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN VEHICLE CONGESTION, UH, EROSION OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UH, PARKING CHALLENGES, AND THE DEGRADING OF PRIVACY OF HOMEOWNERS IS A KEY CONCERN FOR THOSE RESIDING WITHIN THE IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING STRUCTURES ON BEHALF OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS.

UH, IN THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT HOMES.

THERE'S ALSO CONCERN, UH, RELATED TO NOISE POLLUTION, UM, FROM ANYTHING D DELIVERIES.

UM, WE HEARD THAT THERE'S THE PROPOSAL FOR, UM, BARS AND TAVERNS, UM, MUSIC STUDIO, ET ET CETERA.

UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, HEARING OUR PETITIONS THIS AFTERNOON.

UH, AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER, UM, DISAPPROVAL OF, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK OKAY.

UM, WITH THE APPLICANT, LIKE TIME TO RESPOND.

AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE OWNERS THAT HAVE SPOKEN TODAY AND RESPECT ALL OF THEIR, OF THEIR OPINIONS.

AND WE PROMISE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE SOJO CROSSING HOMEOWNERS DURING CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS EVEN AFTER THIS MEETING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, I THINK AS FAR AS, UH, DENSITY AND INTENSITY GOES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HOW PEOPLE LIVE AND WORK IN SAN ANTONIO FOR THE NEXT A HUNDRED YEARS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE BELIEVE THE DENSITY IS AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S STATED GOALS AND DEVELOPMENT TOOLS.

THE RIO OVERLAY AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK WHICH SPEAKS TO CREATING BUILDINGS WITH THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY.

IN FACT, I D C COULD ALLOW MORE UNITS ON THE SITE, BUT WE'RE SEEKING A BALANCE BETWEEN TODAY AND FUTURE.

TRENDS.

SITE IS LOCATED IN INDUSTRIAL REDEVELOPMENT AREA THAT IS EXCITING TO MILLENNIALS, RETIREES, AND ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT MAY WORK IN THE VICINITY AND THE FUTURE OF THE ABILITY TO WALK OR BIKE TO THE RIVERWALK RESTAURANTS, OFFICES AND NIGHTLIFE.

AND THE PEARL IS WHAT'S ATTRACTIVE TO THIS AREA.

BY CREATING 325 UNITS, WE OFFER THE ABILITY TO LIVE NEAR DOWNTOWN WITHOUT THE NEED FOR A CASH DOWN PAYMENT ON A HOUSE, WHICH MANY CANNOT AFFORD THESE DAYS.

AND THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR WHAT SAN ANTONIO HAS TO OFFER IN THE PEARL, MANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS WILL CHOOSE TO NOT OWN A CAR AND CAN USE RIDE SHARE AND OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

BUT WE'RE STILL PLANNING A SIGNIFICANT PARKING GARAGE TO ACCOMMODATE THE PRESENT WHILE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.

SO WITH THAT, UM, AS FAR AS CONCERNS REGARDING PARKING ON THE STREET, OUR EXPERTS, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEER AS WELL AS GENSLER HAS STUDIED.

AND WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE PARALLEL PARKING ON OUR SIDE OF THE STREET AND NOT BLOCK THE TRAVEL LANES, WHICH I THINK IS A BIG CONCERN.

AND WE DID FI FINALLY, UM, NAIL THAT DOWN LAST WEEK.

SO I THINK THAT'S ONE CONCERN THAT, UM, WE CAN'T ADDRESS.

THE OTHER IS, THIS IS ZONED RIGHT NOW TODAY TO HAVE 120 FEET IN HEIGHT AND, AND OFFICE BUILDING HOTEL COULD BE BUILT WITH THAT HEIGHT.

AND SO I THINK WITH THIS PROPOSAL AND THE GOALS OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, HAVING A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE SAME HEIGHT AND ACTUALLY LESS INTENSITY AN OFFICE AND A HOTEL, WOULD GENERATE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TRAFFIC THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY.

AND SO I THINK, UM, AS A PROPOSAL ITSELF, IT IT IS A GOOD ONE AND IT DOES MEET THE RE TWO STANDARDS AND THE RIO TWO, UH, GOALS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

COMMISSIONER

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GREATHOUSE? YES.

UM, I'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, SO FIRST FOR STAFF.

UM, EXPLAIN TO ME THE, THE HEIGHT, UM, ON THIS PROPERTY.

SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE CURRENT ALLOWED HEIGHT AND HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, UH, THE CURRENT ALLOWED HEIGHT FOR C THREE IS 35 FEET.

AM I CORRECT? AND THEN FOR INDUSTRIAL IS 60 FEET.

AND IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED FOR ADDITIONAL HEIGHT THROUGH THE RIO? THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE TO DO ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, BUT IT WOULD JUST NEED TO BE FOLLOWED UP AFTER H D R C REVIEW FOR A VARIANCE TO THAT HEIGHT TO THE BASE HEIGHT OF THE DISTRICT.

THAT'S ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THE REZONING.

IDC THREE ALLOWS, UM, ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AS THE BASE, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT, UM, LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT RIO UH, LIMITS YOU TO.

UM, AND CAN YOU LET ME KNOW, UM, WHAT THE REQUIRED PARKING FOR THIS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY WI IF THIS WAS NOT AN I D Z ZONING ABOUT THE I D Z FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET? IF IT, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR THEIR PROPOSED PARKING, I THINK THE APPLICANT PROBABLY CAN ANSWER THAT ONE.

NO, THE WHAT, WHAT THE PARKING WOULD BE IF THIS WAS NOT I D Z.

WELL, IF IT WAS NOT I D Z IT WOULD BE 325 TIMES ONE AND A HALF FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY AND THE 2000 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON USE FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES.

YEAH, COMMERCIAL USE USE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SPECIFICS ON THAT.

UM, AND COULD YOU LET ME KNOW, UM, STAFF WHY YOU GUYS DECIDED FOR C THREE RATHER THAN WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR? THAT WAS KIND OF MY, UH, MISTAKE 'CAUSE WE WERE ASSUMING THAT THEY, IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THEM.

BUT AFTER WE PUBLISHED, UM, WE, I PUBLISHED WITH THE C THREE AND THEN THAT'S WHEN THEY STATED THAT THEY WANTED THE C TWO, NOT ALL THE C THREE USES, BUT WE PUBLISHED ALREADY, SO WE COULDN'T REALLY STOP IT.

BUT SO WE COULD IF FOR LESS THAN 10, SO THEY CAN RIGHT.

SO IT, THERE'S NO NEED TO RE-NOTICE THEN IT, IT COULD BE THE C TWO WITH THE USES WITHOUT DOING A RE NOTICING.

YES, MA'AM.

THEY'RE CALLED SHARED PARKING.

AND THEN, UM, QUESTION FOR, UM, THAT APPLICANT.

SO, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE PARKING SITUATION? I, I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR TOBIN HILL.

ARE THERE ANY MEASURES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU CAN TAKE TO TRY TO, UM, ADDRESS THAT OR ANYTHING THAT, THAT YOU HAVE PLANNED TO TRY TO HELP THAT OTHER THAN THE, THE PARALLEL PARKING ON THE STREET AND THE STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE, ALTHOUGH THE PARKING GARAGE WILL BE OPEN TO RETAIL AND MULTI-FAMILY PARKING, SO THE PEOPLE THAT COME VISIT THE RETAIL CAN PARK WITHIN THE STRUCTURE AND PARK IN THE PARALLEL SPACES AS WELL AS, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA BE GATED AND INTERNALLY GATED, IF YOU WILL.

SO, UM, IF THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC FOR THE RETAIL GENERATION DURING THE DAY WHEN MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT HOME DURING THE AFTERNOON AND THE MULTI-FAMILY SPACE, THEN THOSE SPACES ARE AVAILABLE.

SO, UM, AND THAT ANALYSIS, UH, HAS BEEN DONE.

KIMLEY HORN IS OUR ENGINEER, AND, UH, AMY AVERY LOOKED AT THE PARKING MEASURES AND SAID THAT THIS IS AN ADEQUATE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR THE PROPOSED USES.

AND I THINK IS THERE SOME TYPE OF A RESIDENTIAL PERMIT, UM, SITUATION THAT, THAT COULD BE PUT INTO PLACE TO HELP PREVENT, UM, FOLKS FROM PARKING, YOU KNOW, ON THE STREETS AND CAN MAKING THAT BE CONGESTED OR, OR PARKING, UM, AND SPACES WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T BE? YES, THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE SOJO CROSSING TOWN HOMEOWNERS, THAT IS RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PARKING.

YOU MAKE AN APPLICATION TO THE CITY, AND THE CITY DETERMINES IF THERE IS AN OVERCROWDING OF PARKING.

THEY CAN ISSUE THE PARKING STICKERS AND GIVE THEM STICKERS AND THEIR RESERVE SPACES ON THEIR SIDE OF THE STREET.

AND THEN OUR SIDE OF THE STREET WOULD JUST BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE SPECIFICALLY RESERVED FOR RETAIL.

SO IF THEY HAD SOME VISITORS, THEY COULD PARK ON THAT, OUR SIDE OF THE STREET AS WELL.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I CAN ADDRESS THE HEIGHT ISSUE IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

UM, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

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UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.

SO, UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

AND THE REASON WHY, UM, I'M MAKING THIS MOTION, UM, I'D, I'D LIKE TO COMMEND THE DEVELOPER FOR SO MUCH OUTREACH AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND ADDRESSING, UM, THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS WITH RESPECT TO PARKING, WITH RESPECT TO HEIGHT.

UM, I KNOW, UM, ORIGINALLY THERE WAS, THE PROPOSAL WAS FOR MUCH MORE DENSITY, UM, AND MUCH LESS PARKING.

AND, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, UH, THAT THE DEVELOPERS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE, THE NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING TO PUT PARALLEL PARKING ON THE STREET ON THE DEVELOPER'S SIDE.

SO TAKING OUT A LITTLE BIT OF THE SPACE THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO USE.

UM, ADDRESSING, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT LOOMING BUILDINGS BY INCREASING A SETBACK AND TAKING OUT A FEW, UM, RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

UM, REMOVING AN ENTIRE FLOOR OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO PROVIDE MORE PARKING.

UM, SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, UM, AND APPRECIATE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMING OUT AND SPEAKING AND SUPPORT.

UM, AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR THE SOJO DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET DID NOT TAKE A FORMAL POSITION.

UM, THEY, THEY REF, THEY DECLINED.

I, I SAW THE, THE LETTER FROM THEM, THEY DECLINED TO TAKE, EXCUSE ME, A FORMAL POSITION BECAUSE THEY HAD SOME NEIGHBORS THAT WERE, SOME OWNERS THAT WERE IN SUPPORT AND SOME THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION.

SO I THINK THAT'S, UM, ALSO A FACTOR THAT THEY'RE NOT ALL OPPOSED TO THAT.

UM, OTHER FACTORS, UH, THIS IS IN LINE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UM, WHICH IS NEWLY ADOPTED REGIONAL MIXED USE, WHICH IS THE MOST INTENSE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION.

UM, SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY JUST RECENTLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT AND TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY WANT THIS AREA TO BE IN THE FUTURE, KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON, THIS IS A VERY, VERY HOT AREA IN TOWN.

UM, SO I APPRECIATE THAT THAT WAS THE DETERMINATION THAT THE COMMUNITY MADE.

THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE SEE THAT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS COMING OUT, SPEAKING IN SUPPORT.

UM, I THINK THE CURRENT ZONING IS INAPPROPRIATE INDUSTRIAL SMELTING FACTORIES.

UM, I MEAN, ALL TYPES OF OTHER REALLY USES THAT ARE NOT CONDUCIVE.

UH, TOBIN HILL IS NOT ENTIRELY SINGLE FAMILY, ESPECIALLY THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, THERE FLASHER EQUIPMENT, ALL THE, IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE PEARL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UH, ALL WAREHOUSES, RIGHT? THAT THE AREA JUST OUTSIDE OF THE PEARL.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA THAT SEEMS TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE REVITALIZATION OF THE CENTER CITY AND INCREASING HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, UM, OR PUBLIC POLICY.

OTHER, OTHER REASONS TO SUPPORT THIS, UM, MIXED USE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PROMOTING PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT.

I APPRECIATE THAT AGAIN, THAT THERE'S A, THEY'VE GIVEN UP, THEY COULD GO RIGHT TO THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT INSTEAD THEY'VE CHOSEN TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF LIVABLE SPACE, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO TRY TO BE, UM, A GOOD NEIGHBOR BY DOING THAT.

SO WE'RE REALLY JUST RIGHT THERE.

UM, FINALLY, UH, AND I APPRECIATED THIS 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE, UM, WITH MS. HOUSEMAN SEVERAL TIMES.

UM, THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPERS CONSIDERING DOING A FEW SMALLER UNITS FOR SOME MORE AFFORDABILITY IN THAT AREA, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, UH, WITH THAT PROPOSAL TO TRY TO MAKE A FEW UNITS AT LEAST AFFORDABLE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE SUPPORTING, UH, THE, THE, UH, REZONING COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE THAT IS AS AMENDED YES, AS AMENDED BY THE APPLICANT.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UH, AS AMENDED, UH, WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

TO THE RESIDENTS ACROSS THE STREET TO SEE SOMETHING, UM, SO TALL GOING UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM, BUT I THINK THE APPLICANT IS DOING WHAT THEY CAN TO, UM, MEET A NEED IN THAT AREA AND, AND BE AS SENSITIVE AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN.

I ALSO WANNA THANK, UH, MICHELLE AND HER GROUP AND THE APPLICANT FOR, UH, REALLY TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND ADDRESS AS MANY CONCERNS AS POSSIBLE.

I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE SCARY

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I ALSO WANNA COMMEND YOU FOR CONSIDERING HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT ARE MORE OF A, AN AFFORDABLE RATE FOR SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE WORKING DOWN IN THAT AREA.

UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COMMISSIONERS.

I THINK THIS IS A, UM, A A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF, OF DEVELOPMENT DONE THE RIGHT WAY.

UM, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE OTHER SIDE OF IT AS WELL, UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS THE CITY, UM, GROWS AND EXPANDS AND, UM, AND DEVELOPS, I THINK THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME, SOME GROWING PAINS, UM, ALONG THE WAY.

BUT I THINK THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE HAS DONE, UH, REALLY EVERYTHING POSSIBLE, UH, TO MAKE THIS AS PAINLESS, UM, AS POSSIBLE.

AND, UH, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT WITH COMMENTS? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.

AYE.

AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD

[6. 19-9374 (Continued from 12/03/19) ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700291 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-5 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-2 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for eighteen (18) residential units on 0.744 acres out of NCB 11882, located at 1411 East Sandalwood Lane. Staff recommends Denial, with an Alternate Recommendation. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2019-11600084) (Patricia Franco, Planner (210) 207-5876, patricia.franco@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department).]

ITEM SIX, THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO I D Z TWO.

MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 18 DWELLING UNITS.

LOCATED AT 1411 EAST SANDALWOOD.

41.

NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

FIVE RETURNED IN FAVOR, FIVE IN OPPOSITION.

AND THERE IS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THE AREA.

THE CURRENT R FIVE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SUITABLE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPOSED I D Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 18 DWELLING UNITS WOULD ALLOW FOR INTENSE FRAGMENTED DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE INTERIOR OF A BLOCK THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH A SINGLE RES SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE EXISTING I D Z PROPERTIES LOCATED LONG SANDALWOOD ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH REDUCED SETBACKS OF THE I D Z STANDARDS.

ADDITIONAL DENSITY WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE ALONG SUNSET BOULEVARD.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF IDC TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR SIX DWELLING UNITS.

THE REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT.

THIS HOME DEPOT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE KIND LAWN AND GARDEN SIDE.

MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? HELLO? UH, JAMES GRIFFIN, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN, UH, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

I'LL, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF AFTER THAT LAST ONE.

UH, GET Y'ALL MOVING ALONG, UM, .

SO, UH, HERE'S THE AREA, UM, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THE, UH, REAL QUICK, THE PROJECT ITSELF.

SO OUR PROPERTY IS ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.

UH, IT ABUTS THE HOME DEPOT THERE.

UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, JUST OFF THE SCREEN TO THE SOUTH IS SUNSET ROAD.

THE, UH, HIGHWAY 2 81 IS JUST ON THE KIND OF FAR LEFT WESTERN EDGE THERE.

UH, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, UH, ON THIS PROPERTY IS A RESIDENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS FOR, UH, ABOUT 24 UNITS, UM, UH, TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT, UH, AT THREE STORIES.

UH, AFTER SOME INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH NEIGHBORS, WITH STAFF, THE, UM, THE APPLICANT REDUCED THAT DOWN TO, UH, 18 UNITS AND TWO AND A HALF STORIES.

UH, THAT'S SINCE BEEN FURTHER REDUCED DOWN TO, UH, ABOUT 13, 14 UNITS, UH, KEEPING AT THE TWO AND A HALF STORIES, UH, WHICH COMES OUT TO ABOUT 18 UNITS PER ACRE.

UH, HERE'S A RENDERING OF WHAT THE, UH, PROJECT, UH, WILL LOOK LIKE.

UH, AGAIN, UH, FOR SALE TOWN HOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

UH, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT OFF WITH THE, OH, HERE, IT'S, SO, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS OUR PROPERTY, UH, KIND OF FLAG SHAPE LOT.

UM, THE, THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY NEXT TO US.

UM, GO, I CAN GO BACK TO THE AERIAL IN A SECOND.

SHOW YOU, IT'S MORE OF A QUASI INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.

THERE IS A HOME THERE, BUT IT'S, UH, THEY'RE RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT OF THERE.

THERE'S PROBABLY A DOZEN, UH, KIND OF HEAVY TRUCKS PARKED IN THE PARKING LOT THERE.

UH, HERE YOU HAVE THE HOME DEPOT, LIKE I MENTIONED.

UM, UH, OUR PROPERTY ABUTS, UH, NOT JUST THE HOME DEPOT, BUT KINDA THE BACK SERVICE ENTRANCE.

UH, IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH

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THIS IS THE CONTRACTOR SIDE.

SO, UH, NOT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL HERE, BUT A, A INTENSE USE.

AND WE'RE ON THE EVEN MORE INTENSE SIDE OF THAT USE.

AGAIN, YOU HAVE SUNSET HERE, UH, RAPIDLY CHANGING AREA OVER THE PAST PROBABLY DECADE OR SO.

UH, MORE SO IN, IN RECENT YEARS.

UH, ONE OF THE FIRST BIG PROJECTS IN THIS AREA, UH, WAS THE APARTMENT COMPLEX YOU SEE HERE, UH, ZONED MF 50.

SO, UH, VERY HIGH DENSITY.

UH, IT DOES HAVE A SUNSET ADDRESS, BUT, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAJORITY OF THE COMPLEX ACTUALLY FACES ON SANDALWOOD, UH, WHICH IS OUR, OUR STREET HERE.

UH, SOME OF THE MORE, UH, RECENT CASES AS WELL.

UH, YOU SEE THE, UH, THE TAN AREAS.

THAT MEANS ON THE CITY'S NEW MAP THAT THERE'S A RECENT PLAT.

SO THESE ARE THREE PROJECTS, UM, THAT WERE RECENTLY REZONED AND DEVELOPED REALLY FOR, UM, THIS ONE LAST YEAR, UH, IN 20, ABOUT THIS TIME, 2018 IS WHEN IT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

12 UNITS ON, UM, A 0.85 ACRES, SO ABOUT 14 UNITS PER ACRE.

UH, NEXT DOOR, THE YEAR BEFORE IN 2017, YOU HAD 14 UNITS ON ONE ACRE ACROSS THE STREET HERE, UH, SIMILAR, YOU HAVE, UH, 12 UNITS ON, UH, ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.

UH, SO THEY'RE ALL BEEN IN THAT 14 TO 16 UNIT PER ACRE RANGE.

UH, STAFF DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ALL THOSE, UH, CASES RECENTLY.

UH, THIS ONE, UH, NOT AN I D Z, LIKE THIS ONE, THIS ONE, THIS ONE, UH, AND OURS, UH, BUT R THREE CC, UM, KIND OF A TREND HERE OF, UH, HIGHER DENSITY REDEVELOPMENT.

UH, SOME REAL CHANGES.

UH, AND AGAIN, MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOU HAVE, UM, UH, OUR PROPERTY, WHICH, UH, I, I DON'T BELIEVE IS MID-BLOCK.

IN FACT, IT'S RIGHT AT THE END OF SANDALWOOD TURNING DOWN ON TEAK.

AND AGAIN, YOU'RE BUDDING REALLY THE MOST INTENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT A C THREE.

UH, I THINK IF YOU KNOW, WE WERE ANY OTHER DISTRICT AND SEEKING R FIVE ZONING, UM, I DON'T THINK STAFF OR ANYBODY WOULD THINK THAT WAS APPROPRIATE TO GO NEXT TO A, UH, C THREE KIND OF REGIONAL CENTER POWER CENTER USE.

UM, THE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE STAFF'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION.

I, I CERTAINLY DON'T, UH, AGREE WITH EVERYTHING IN THERE.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF SIX UNITS, UH, IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS.

UH, R FIVE WOULD ALLOW, UH, SEVEN UNITS THERE.

SO IT, IT, THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION WOULD ACTUALLY BE A, A DOWN ZONING FROM WHAT'S THERE TODAY, WHICH AGAIN, IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING, UH, NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, THIS AREA IS CHANGING.

YOU DO HAVE SOME MORE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY KIND OF FURTHER UP TO THE NORTH NORTHEAST.

UH, AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WE BELIEVE IS A, A PERFECT TRANSITION FROM THE MORE INTENSE USES ON SUNSET, THE MORE INTENSE USES ON SANDALWOOD.

UH, MF 50, AGAIN, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, UH, AND C THREE COMMERCIAL AND THE HIGHWAY, UH, ABUTTING US TO THE WEST.

UH, AND, AND IT'S REALLY IN LINE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS FAR AS THIS DEVELOPMENT, THIS DEVELOPMENT, THIS ONE AND THIS ONE.

UH, SO IT PROVIDES THAT TRANSITION, UH, REALLY COMPLIMENTS WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, UH, IN THIS AREA, UH, AND, AND IS A GOOD, UH, USE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, LARGE PARCEL LAND THAT, THAT DOES ABUT A PRETTY INTENSE COMMERCIAL.

SO, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, UH, ONE LAST THING I WILL POINT OUT.

UH, THIS PROJECT DID REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT.

UH, ALTHOUGH THE PLAN, IT'S THE, UH, SAN ANTONIO AIRPORT PLAN ADOPTED ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, LITTLE OUTDATED UNDER THE, UH, NEW COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE CATEGORIES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WILL SLOWLY KIND OF, UH, APPLY TO EACH PLAN AS THEY'RE UPDATED.

UH, WE, WE WOULD BE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UM, WHICH IS WHAT THIS PART OF SANDALWOOD IS NOW.

UH, SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE DID HAVE TO, UH, PURSUE A PLAN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR THIS ZONING, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UH, AT THEIR MEETING LAST WEEK.

UM, SO HERE WE ARE ON THE ZONING PORTION.

AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH WILL ALLOW A, A CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE, UH, PROJECT, UH, AND ZONING FOR THIS, THIS PROPERTY.

AT THE END, IT'LL BE FACING THE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

ROSEMARY, MAURICIO, ROSEMARY, ROSEMARY, MAURICIO, 1 31 BELFAST DRIVE.

YOU CAN, UM, SAY WHERE, WHY YOU CAME.

WELL, BASICALLY, I WAS JUST HERE TO SEE THE ACTUAL, BECAUSE MY HOME IS RIGHT, LIKE RIGHT ACROSS

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AND HONESTLY, I'M REALLY SURPRISED BECAUSE MOST OF MY, THREE OF MY NEIGHBORS WERE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT BEING HERE TODAY.

AND I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT SHOWED UP.

SO, AND ONE OF THEM IS A VERY GOOD TALKER.

SHE WOULD'VE REALLY GIVEN YOU A FIGHT, .

BUT ANYWAY, AND I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I'VE LIVED IN THIS AREA SINCE 1977 AND, UM, IT'S HARD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGES.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE COMING.

AND, UH, TRUST ME, I AM, I'M ALL FOR IT.

MY DAUGHTER'S, ON THE OTHER HAND, ESPECIALLY THE ONE THAT LIVES WITH ME, SHE WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SIGN ANYTHING.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING.

YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S BEEN A BATTLE, NOT JUST HERE, BUT AT HOME.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND, BUT THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S GONNA HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.

IT WILL COME LATER SOONER.

IT WILL.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE HERE TO SEE WHAT ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO BE COMING.

AND THERE'S NOTHING REALLY, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN GOING ALONG WITH IT.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP IT.

BUT THE ONLY THING THAT THEY GO BY IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR LIKE, I MEAN, MY HUSBAND PASSED 10 YEARS AGO, EVEN, HE WAS ADAMANT ABOUT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

AND HE WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY THAT THEY WOULD COME TO HIM AND HE WOULD SAY, OKAY, WE MOVE ON SOMEWHERE ELSE.

MY DAUGHTERS ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY'RE NOT THAT EASY TO WORK WITH AND, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, CHANGES HERE.

AND I'M GLAD I WAS HERE TODAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.

THEY, WOULD YOU LIKE A RESPONSE, MR. MCKNIGHT? I DIDN'T MEAN THAT.

HAPPENS EVERY, EVERY DAY.

I GOT THE JAMES IN MY MIND.

UM, UH, JUST REAL QUICK.

UH, SO, UH, GOT, GOT TO SPEAK TO ROSEMARY AND GAVE HER MY CONTACT INFO.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO KINDA HELP CHANGE THE PROJECT, UH, MAKE TWEAKS HAPPY TO DO IT.

UM, AND ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION, UM, THE, UH, PROPOSED PURCHASERS OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, MY CLIENT BEFORE WE WERE EVEN INVOLVED, THEY, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AN ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE AREA, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UH, TO REACH OUT AS MANY FOLKS AS POSSIBLE.

THEY SPENT, UH, I THINK TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT DAYS KINDA WALKING UP AND DOWN, TEAK, SANDALWOOD, BELFAST, UH, KNOCKING ON DOORS, TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, THE WORD OUT AND, AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH AS MANY FOLKS AS POSSIBLE.

UM, AND, AND THE, THE RECEPTION THEY GOT FROM FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE WILLING TO ANSWER THE DOOR, UH, WAS, WAS PRETTY GOOD.

BUT, UH, ALTHOUGH YOU SEE A COUPLE FOLKS POSED, UM, THE TRY THEIR BEST TO REACH OUT AND STILL, UH, WILLING TO TALK TO WHOEVER TO KIND OF ACCOMMODATE ANY CONCERNS THAT MAY COME UP.

SO THANKS.

UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.

THANKS.

UM, SO I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UM, FOR STAFF AND FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, START WITH STAFF.

SO COULD YOU JUST WALK ME THROUGH YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL AND YOUR ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION? SO, YES.

UM, BEING AS THOUGH IT IS ADJACENT TO R FOUR AND R FIVE, UM, WE TOOK THE ACREAGE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY 7.744 ACRES, CONVERTED THAT INTO SQUARE, UM, SQUARE FEET, WHICH WOULD BE 32 4 0 8.

AND WE DIVIDED THAT BY THE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM FOR AN R FIVE, UH, LOT.

AND THAT PROVIDED FOR 6.48.

AND BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE A SUBSTANDARD LOT, UM, WE WOULD RECOMMEND SIX, UM, LOTS, UH, WITHIN THE I D Z.

AND GIVEN THAT THERE HAS BEEN A PLAN AMENDMENT, WOULD THAT CHANGE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? NO, BECAUSE THE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS AMENDED TO MEDIUM DENSITY, OR IT WAS, UM, APPROVED FOR MEDIUM.

UM, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE'S BEEN NO PLAN AMENDMENT.

THAT WAS JUST A RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT STILL HAS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS DENIAL ON THE PLAN AMENDMENT.

CONFUSED, MAYBE CONFUSED ISN'T THE RIGHT WORD.

UM, YEAH, I GUESS I'M JUST, I'M JUST A LITTLE, UM,

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MAYBE PERPLEXED AS THE BETTER WORD, UM, THAT WE HAVE A LOT NEXT TO, UM, C THREE, UM, AND THAT WE'RE NOT, THE CITY IS NOT RECOMMENDING FOR SOME TYPE OF A TRANSITION ZONE THAT, THAT THE CITY, UH, I THINK AS MR. GRIFFIN STATED, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE CITY WOULD, WOULD DO, RIGHT? IF, IF YOU WERE GOING TO ZONE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW AND, AND PLAN THIS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD, WOULD BE DOING GOING FORWARD? ARE YOU, UM, IT'S UNIFORMLY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE FUTURE.

LAND USE OF THE SAN ANTONIO AIRPORT VICINITY LAND USE PLAN, AND THE SHAPE OF IT FRAGMENTS, IF IT'S AMENDED TO THE MEDIUM DENSITY, IT IS A FRAGMENTED REZONING OF THE FUTURE LAND USE INTO A FLAG.

LOT OF, UM, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL INTRUDING INTO LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

IF IT WERE MORE UNIFORM AND IT INCLUDED THAT BOTTOM SQUARE LOT, PERHAPS IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE AS A TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL TO LOW DENSITY.

BUT AS IT STANDS, THE SINGLE FAMILY LOT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM.

IT'S, IT'S NOT PART OF THE PROPOSED NY IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND THE, THE LOTS DOWN THE STREET, UM, DOWN SANDALWOOD THAT ARE ALSO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, IS THERE, WHY, WHY WERE THOSE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL? SO, UH, THOSE, THE ORDINANCE FOR THAT ONE WAS GRANTED IN DECEMBER OF 2017.

AND THAT PROPERTY IS ONE A LITTLE OVER ONE ACRE.

AND WHEN YOU CONVERT THAT INTO SQUARE FEET, IT'S 43 5 60.

AND WHAT WAS APPLIED THERE WAS R THREE, WHICH IS A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 3000 SQUARE FEET.

SO WHEN YOU TAKE THE 43 560 AND DIVIDE IT BY THE 3000 SQUARE FEET, THAT IS 14 LOTS FOR ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON EACH LOT, WHICH IS IN, IN LINE WITH THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN, UM, NOVEMBER, I THINK NOVEMBER 15TH, UH, OF 2018, THE CITY, UH, UPDATED THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCLUDE, UM, OR, OR TO INCLUDE, UH, REFINED LEVELS OF I D Z I D Z ONE, TWO, AND THREE, WHICH DIVIDE BY INTENSITY.

AND SO AT I D Z ONE, THE HIGHEST INTENSITY IS, UM, UH, IT'S, I'M SORRY, I THINK IT'S, I, HELP ME OUT, KAT, FOR IDZ ONE , ARE YOU TRYING TO DO STORIES? I THINK IT'S 18 UNITS PER ACRE.

OH, YES.

IT'S THE HIGHEST FOR I D Z ONE.

SO WITH, WITH THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST OF, UM, MF 18 FOR I D Z ONE, THAT PUTS THEM IN A CATEGORY OF, UM, STILL ID Z ONE, BUT IT, IT DOES NEED TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE.

A, THERE'S SOME SORT OF EASEMENT IN BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT THIS IS MOSTLY A RESIDENTIAL STREET, NOT A COMMERCIAL STREET.

AND THE OTHER ONES DID NOT.

AND THAT WAS WHY THEY WERE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

THEY DID NOT REQUIRE, AT THE TIME, THEY STILL FIT WITHIN THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE.

AND THE LAND ACREAGE IS ALSO LARGER THAN, UM, THE 0.4744, BECAUSE IS, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, SORRY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S LIKE THE, THE ENCLAVE DEVELOPMENT? MM-HMM.

, I, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN.

THAT'S THE, I THAT'S ALSO I D Z, THE ONE MICHAEL'S POINTING TO YES.

IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT HAS 14 UNITS WITH AN I D C.

RIGHT? IT'S A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE.

AND SO WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS IT, IT FELL UNDER THE OLD I D C.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE THE STRICTER I D Z WITH THE, THE DIFFERENT, UM, LEVELS OF ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

AND THOSE CATEGORIES ARE MORE SPECIALIZED FOR DENSITY.

AND SO UNDER THE OLD I D C, THEY WERE ABLE TO FALL UNDER JUST THE BASIC R THREE.

SO ANY, WE COULD TAKE THAT AS THE LOWEST CATEGORY AND USE THAT TO DETERMINE DENSITY AT THIS POINT.

NOW WE HAVE IDZ ONE THAT SAYS, YOU HAVE TO USE MF 18 AS YOUR BASE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

SO THE, IT'S JUST THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON A CHANGE TO THE CODE, NOT A CHANGE IN WHAT THE CITY THINKS IS APPROPRIATE HERE.

IS THAT, NO, NO.

SO THE CHANGE IN THE RECOMMENDATION IS RELATED TO THE CODE.

THE, THE CODE AMENDMENT CHANGE, THE REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT, THEY HAVE TO GET A PLAN AMENDMENT IS BECAUSE OF THE CODE AMENDMENT CHANGE.

OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT JUST BASED ON THAT, BUT IT'S ALSO BASED ON WHAT THE CURRENT LAND USE IS FOR THIS BLOCK.

IT MAY BE ADJACENT TO A REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S ON THE BACK SIDE, SIDE OF IT.

UM, AND THERE'S

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AND SO THAT PLAYS INTO IT.

UH, AGAIN, WITH THE CURRENT ZONING, THEY COULD GET, UM, UP TO SIX AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND AN I D Z WITH SIX.

IT'S JUST THAT IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR WHAT SHOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ZONED FOR.

UM, AND PUTTING THAT DENSITY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, THAT REQUIRES A ZONING CHANGE TO A MORE INTENSE I D Z WAS NOT APPROPRIATE IN OUR EYES.

OKAY, THANKS.

UM, OR THE APPLICANT.

SO COULD YOU, UM, LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN AND JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROPOSED HEIGHTS OF THE, THE BUILDINGS, ESPECIALLY THE BUILDING ALONG THE BACK OF THE, UM, OF THE PROPERTY? SURE.

SO THE, THE LAYOUT, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY, UH, THE LAYOUT WITH THE, UH, HIGHER UNIT COUNT.

SO THIS IS SHOWING, UH, 18 UNITS.

UM, SO THIS BUILDING AND THIS BUILDING WOULD BE REDUCED IN SIZE.

UH, THEY ARE PROPOSED FOR TWO AND A HALF STORIES.

AGAIN, GOING DOWN ON UNITS GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM TO WORK WITH, UM, POSSIBLY EVEN PROVIDING A LITTLE, UH, LARGER, LARGER BUFFER BACK THERE.

UM, DID, DID, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.

GIVE US MORE ROOM TO KINDA ADD, ADD SOME GREEN SPACE, ADD SOME BUFFERS AND, AND LOWER THAT, UH, TRANSITION.

AND THEN THE, UM, THE BUILDING THAT FRONTS SANDALWOOD.

UM, CAN YOU LET ME KNOW ABOUT THE ORIENTATION OF THAT BUILDING? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.

SO, UH, THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS TO HAVE EVERYTHING KIND OF FACING INTERNAL.

UM, UH, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME UP, UH, FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE WAS, UM, AND, AND THIS IS RELATED TO THE RECENT RMM FOUR, MF 33 TASK FORCE THAT, UH, Y'ALL MAY REMEMBER, HOPE, HOPEFULLY FORGOT.

UM, BUT, UH, THE ORIENTATION WILL BE, UH, CHANGED TO HAVE REALLY THE FRONT, UH, OF THIS UNIT FACING OUT TOWARDS SANDALWOOD TO GIVE THE MORE OF A, A STREET FEEL SIGN, UM, ORIENTED TOWARDS SANDALWOOD.

AND THEN, UM, PARKING, CAN YOU LET ME KNOW ABOUT THE, THE PLAN FOR THE PARKING THERE? UH, YES.

SO, UH, PARKING, SO EACH UNIT WILL HAVE, UH, A GARAGE, UH, AND DRIVEWAY.

UM, THE REDUCTION IN UNITS ALSO GIVES US MORE ROOM, UM, WITHIN THE SITE TO ALLOW VISITOR PARKING.

UM, SO, UH, EACH, EACH UNIT WILL HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OWNERS OR THE RESIDENTS, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, ANY VISITORS THAT MAY COME.

UM, AND THIS IS FOR, UH, FIRE, UH, THE HAMMERHEAD THERE IS FOR, UH, FIRE TURNAROUND.

UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE EVEN WITH THE LARGER UNIT COUNT, YOU HAVE SOME LARGER DRIVEWAYS HERE, UH, THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE EXTRA PARKING.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTION FOR JAMES.

WITH REGARD TO THE, TO THE REAR OF YOUR PROPERTY, THAT'LL BACK TO THE PROPERTY ON BELFAST, WILL YOU BE PUTTING UP ANY KIND OF A MASONRY FENCE, UM, THAT HADN'T COME UP? WOULD DEFINITELY WOULD BE FENCING A PRIVACY FENCE.

UM, I THINK WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED WAS, WAS WOOD PRIVACY FENCE.

UH, THAT'S CERTAIN, CERTAINLY SOMETHING I CAN TALK TO THE DEVELOPERS ABOUT.

AND PERHAPS INCREASING SOME BUFFER, I THINK YOU SAID ON THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

AGAIN, GOING DOWN IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS EVEN FURTHER, UM, GIVES US MORE ROOM TO PLAY WITH AND, AND PROVIDE THOSE BUFFERS.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN JUST A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE PARKING SPACES IN THE GARAGE, I JUST WANNA BE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

ARE THOSE DOUBLE PARKING SPACES SIDE BY SIDE, OR ARE THOSE GONNA BE TANDEM PARKING SPACES? UH, IT DEPENDS ON THE UNIT.

SOME OF THEM ALLOW FOR SIDE BY SIDE.

SOME OF 'EM ALLOW FOR THE LONGER DRIVEWAYS, BUT, BUT SKINNIER.

SO, UM, IT, IT VARIES, BUT THERE WILL BE, UH, PLENTY OF ROOM FOR AT LEAST TWO CARS.

UM, THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS AREA OBVIOUSLY IS CHANGING LIKE THE PREVIOUS CASE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, I I WAS SURPRISED, UM, WHEN STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDED THIS FOR DENIAL GIVEN, UM, SO MANY OF THE CHANGES AROUND, I, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE REASONING FOR THE, THE DIFFERENCES, BUT I THINK THAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE REALLY MINOR, VERY SMALL DIFFERENCES.

UM, ANY OTHER CO COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? THANK YOU.

UM, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX.

UM, AND, AND THE REASONS WHY, UM, ARE, ARE SEVERAL, UM, UH, THE FACT THAT THIS WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE HAVE A, UH, WELL, IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL PLAN AMENDMENT, BUT RIGHT.

RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF A PLAN AMENDMENT SO THAT, SO THAT THEN OUR FUTURE LAND USE, UH, CATEGORY IS GOING TO BE, UM, CONSISTENT WITH THIS ZONING, THIS PROPOSED ZONING.

UM, THAT'S ONE REASON.

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THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK.

UM, WHEREAS THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY A BUDDING, UM, THE REGIONAL, UH, COMMERCIAL USE, UM, C THREE, THE MOST INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE.

AND, AND, AND I'LL HAVE TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH STAFF THAT THE BACKSIDE OF A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, UM, IS, IS SOMEHOW LESS INTENSE.

IN FACT, THIS IS MY HOME DEPOT, SO I KNOW , THAT IT IS ACTUALLY MUCH MORE INTENSE ON THAT SIDE, UM, GIVEN THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF DELIVERIES AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN THERE.

SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT, UH, A, A GREAT TRANSITION FROM THE MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE DOWN TO THE SINGLE FAMILY USES THAT WE HAVE AROUND THAT.

AND I THINK IF THE LAND USE PLAN WAS TO BE UPDATED, UH, THAT THAT WOULD LIKELY BE, UM, THE, THE DIRECTION THAT THIS WOULD GO GIVEN, UM, URBAN PLANNING PRINCIPLES, UM, THE SIZE, HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE PUBLIC POLICY, I, I JUST DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO NOT APPROVE THIS.

UM, AND, AND I THINK WE'RE PROVIDING MORE HOUSING, UM, AND MORE HOUSING THAT FOLKS CAN AFFORD.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW IN, IN SAN ANTONIO.

SECOND.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE MOTION.

SO IT'S LISTED AS 18.

DID THE DEVELOPER SAY 13 TO 14 UNITS, OR IS, SO ARE YOU, UH, THE APPROVAL IS FOR WHAT'S LISTED HERE, THE 18, OR DID I GET THAT WRONG? IT, YEAH, IF WE NEED TO FORMALLY AMEND IT, OUR, OUR REQUEST WOULD BE FOR, UH, I D Z WITH 18 UNITS PER ACRE, UH, WHICH WOULD BE NO MORE THAN 14 UNITS.

REQUEST FOR, OR A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED.

ANY, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO? I JUST WANNA BE, MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.

I KNOW WE JUST SAID IT.

SO WE'RE GOING FROM A REQUEST FOR 18 TOTAL TO 14 TOTAL.

I'VE JUST HAD A STOMACH ACHE EVER SINCE MS. ROSEMARY SPOKE, AND THEN SHE LEFT.

AND I'M JUST LOOKING ON BELFAST STREET.

I JUST HAVE REALLY MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THIS.

UM, I'LL SUPPORT IT, UH, BECAUSE OF IT BEING NEXT TO THE HOME DEPOT, BUT IT, LIKE EVERY SINGLE CASE WE HAVE NOW IS CHANGING ONE OF THESE BEAUTIFUL OLD NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I FEEL LIKE I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S MAKING HER CRY.

I'M SORRY, BUT I THOUGHT HER COMMENTS WERE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT I WILL SUPPORT IT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER TOLSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE.

[10. 19-9179 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700289 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-1 AHOD" Low Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in “R-4” Residential Single-Family and for a Professional Office on Lot 1, Block 6, NCB 7582, located at 364 Betty Jean Street. Staff recommends Denial.(Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)]

AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

MICHAEL PEPY, PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 10, LOCATED AT 3 6 4.

BETTY JEAN STREET IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM R FOUR TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN R FOUR RESIDENTIAL AND FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

16 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

ONE WAS RETURNED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION.

THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

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STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, AN ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? ME AGAIN? SORRY, Y'ALL DIDN'T GET ANY BREAK THERE.

UM, JAMES GRIFFIN, 1 1 2 EAST PECAN.

UM, THIS PROJECT, UM, THIS IS DOWN ON I 37, UH, JUST BEFORE, UH, HOT WELLS, UM, RIGHT HERE.

SO THE, THE PROPERTY ITSELF, UH, IS A LITTLE OVER HALF AN ACRE.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ORIENTED TOWARDS THE HIGHWAY.

UH, AND, AND THE ADDRESS IS BETTY JEAN.

BUT THAT, UM, UH, THAT PART OF THE ROAD ACTUALLY IS, UH, HIGHWAY RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S TXDOT.

IN FACT, WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS PLOTTED YEARS AGO, UH, HAD TO GET APPROVAL FROM TDOT, UH, TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY, HAD TO GET THE DRIVEWAY PERMIT FROM TXDOT.

SO, UH, IT, IT, UH, IT'S ORIENTED TOWARDS THE HIGHWAY, ACTUALLY FRONTS ON THE HIGHWAY.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, IT KIND OF WENT QUICKLY, BUT IF YOU, UH, SAW FROM THE THE NOTIFICATION AREA, YOU COULD SEE THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY DOES COME RIGHT UP TO OUR PROPERTY LINE.

UM, YEAH.

PERFECT.

THERE YOU GO.

YOU CAN KIND OF, KIND OF SEE, UH, HOW THAT RIGHT OF WAY WORKS OUT.

AND IF YOU CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT PICTURE AS WELL.

UM, THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU THE, THE GROUND LEVEL VIEW OF IT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A, A PRETTY LARGE, UH, POWER POLE, REALLY A TRANSMISSION, UH, TOWER THERE, UH, ON THE PROPERTY.

UH, THERE'S NOTHING, UH, ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

UH, BEEN DECADES AND DECADES SINCE THERE WAS A A, A HOME THERE, ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A, A SMALL OFFICE, UH, NO MORE THAN 1500 SQUARE FEET, UM, FOR SPORADIC USE BY, UH, MISSION PARK.

UH, THE, THE FUNERAL HOME, UH, HERE IN TOWN.

UM, BE AN OFFICE TO USE IS KIND OF A, A SATELLITE OFFICE.

UM, AS NEEDED, PROBABLY ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK, UH, JUST TO BE ABLE TO MEET, UM, CUSTOMERS OFFSITE, UH, FOLKS THAT DON'T WANT TO COME TO THE, THE ACTUAL FUNERAL HOME.

UM, THERE WILL BE A SIGN, UH, PROPOSED AS WELL, AN ON-PREMISE SIGN, UH, FACING THE HIGHWAY, UH, STAFF, AS YOU HEARD, COMMEND DENIAL FOR, UM, IN THE REPORT IT SAYS, INTRODUCING COMMERCIAL PATTERN.

NOT YET ESTABLISHED, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE HIGHWAY HERE, UH, FRONT AND ON THE HIGHWAY, HAVE THAT LARGE, UH, TRANSMISSION POLE, UH, THAT YOU COULD SEE IN THE AERIAL.

UH, AND, UH, THE PHOTOS, UH, REALLY SINGLE FAMILY ISN'T APPROPRIATE.

UM, IT IS ZONED, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT'S BEEN FOR SALE FOR, FOR REALLY DECADES AND VACANT FOR, FOR EVEN LONGER, UH, SINGLE FAMILY IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

SO, SO WHAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOES ABUT RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH AND WEST, AND YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MOVING FURTHER ALONG TO THE WEST, UH, AS YOU LEAVE THE HIGHWAY.

SO, SO WHAT IS A APPROPRIATE HERE? UH, AND THAT'S, UH, WHY WE, UH, ARE LOOKING AT I D Z, WHICH, UH, I D Z ITSELF IS MEANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE A, A FLEXIBLE ZONING DISTRICT THAT REALLY FACILITATES, UH, DEVELOPMENT ON PARCELS THAT OTHERWISE REALLY COULDN'T OR WOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE DIFFICULT SITES.

UM, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK THE I D Z, UH, ALLOWS FOR JUST ONE USE.

SO WE ARE NOT OPENING THIS UP TO COMMERCIAL USE, UH, BY GOING TO A, A C ONE, C TWO C THREE, OR, OR ANYTHING SIMILAR.

UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE I D Z TO JUST ALLOW ONE, USE A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, UH, NO LARGER THAN 1500 SQUARE FEET.

UM, SO THAT REALLY IS THE, PROBABLY THE LEAST INTENSE USE, UH, OUT THERE, UH, BEYOND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WHEN AGAIN, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, CLEARLY ISN'T WORKING AND, AND ISN'T APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARCEL GIVEN ITS SIZE, SHAPE, ORIENTATION AND, AND LOCATION, UH, RIGHT THERE ON THE HIGHWAY.

UM, ANOTHER POINT, IMPORTANT POINT ON THE OFFICE USE IS, UH, IT CAN BE DESIGNED AND WILL BE DESIGNED TO LOOK RESIDENTIAL.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE A ONE STORY SMALL OFFICE BUILDING, AGAIN, ORIENTED, UH, AS CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY AS POSSIBLE, BUT, UH, CAN BE DESIGNED AND AGAIN, WILL BE DESIGNED TO, UH, LOOK AS RESIDENTIAL AS POSSIBLE.

SO REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW CAN THIS PROPERTY BE USED IN THE LEAST INTENSE MANNER POSSIBLE? AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE TODAY.

UH, THERE WILL BE A SIGN IT'S NOT, UH, IN THE RECOMMENDATION, THERE WAS A MENTION OF A, A LARGE BILLBOARD SIGN THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

IT WILL BE A ON-PREMISE SIGN.

UH, ADVERTISING FOR THE MISSION PARK USE, UM, FACING THE HIGHWAY WOULD BE ALLOWED, UH, SIGN UP TO 50 FEET.

UH, WE'D BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, AND, UH, THEY ASKED IN EXCHANGE FOR THEIR, THEIR SUPPORT, THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OR NOT OPPOSED OF THIS REQUEST.

UH, IF WE RESTRICT THE PROPERTY TO HAVE A SIGN NO MORE THAN 40 FEET.

UH, WE'VE ABSOLUTELY

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AGREED TO THAT.

THE SIGN ACTUALLY MAY BE A LITTLE LOWER, BUT, UH, THE, THE WRITTEN RESTRICTION WILL BE NO MORE THAN 40 FEET HIGH, UH, FOR THE SIGN.

SO, UH, WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO, UH, ALL THE RESIDENTS WITHIN 200 FEET.

UH, DIDN'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, RESPONSES BACK, BUT, UM, UH, TRIED TO REACH OUT AND, AND TALK TO AS MANY FOLKS AS POSSIBLE.

UH, ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, THE SIGN ITSELF, UH, THE CODE ACTUALLY REQUIRES IT TO BE LOCATED AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET FROM, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

SO IT WILL BE PUSHED AS FAR FROM THOSE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROPERTIES, UH, TO THE, TO THE LARGEST EXTENT.

AND THEN YOU CAN EVEN SEE UP THERE AND ON THE AERIAL, UH, THOSE LOTS ARE VERY LARGE.

THE HOMES THEMSELVES ARE SPACED SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE LOT LINES.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE'RE PUSHED BACK EVEN FURTHER FROM THERE.

UM, SO, UH, ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT, UH, TO ALLOW THIS PROPERTY TO BE USED FOR, FOR SOMETHING, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY THE LEAST INTENSE, UM, AND MOST COMPATIBLE USE POSSIBLE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

UM, I WAS ALWAYS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM.

MR. GRIFFIN.

SO, UM, COULD YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION, UM, YOU'RE PROPOSING? UH, YES MA'AM.

IT'S, UH, REALLY BY APPOINTMENT, SO THERE WON'T BE A FULL-TIME STAFFER THERE.

UH, IT'S AGAIN, IF, UM, COMPANY GETS CONTACTED AND THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE A PERSONAL MEETING WITH A, YOU KNOW, CLIENT OR CUSTOMER, UH, THEY'LL ARRANGE A TIME TO MEET.

UH, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DURING THE DAYTIME, BUT IT WON'T BE, UH, WON'T BE OPEN, YOU KNOW, ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, REALLY.

MAYBE A, A COUPLE HOURS A WEEK AT MOST.

UM, UH, CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE PARKING, UH, PARKING? SO, UH, THE PARKING REQUIRED, UH, IS ONE SPACE PER 300 SQUARE FEET.

SO IF, IF IT WAS BUILT TO THE FULL 1500 SQUARE FEET, UH, THAT'S FIVE PARKING SPACES.

I, I THINK WE'LL BE A LITTLE SMALLER ON THE BUILDING THAN THAT.

UM, SO WE CERTAINLY WILL HAVE ENOUGH PARKING, BUT, UH, PER CODE, BUT EVEN THAT WILL BE MORE PARKING THAN I THINK WE'LL BE REQUIRED.

YOU KNOW, I THINK AT, AT THE BUSIEST TIME, THERE MAY BE TWO CARS THERE, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE, UH, ADEQUATE PARKING, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD SIZED PROPERTY, UH, SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM TO WORK WITH, BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY WANNA KEEP PAVEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT, UM, OF THE SITE TO A MINIMUM.

YEAH, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION.

SO HOW WOULD YOU INCORPORATE THE PARKING SO THAT IT LOOKS RESIDENTIAL IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE? UM, PARKING SPACES? YEAH, PARKING, SO PROBABLY, UH, OUT THERE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING IN BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE HIGHWAY.

UM, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING SOME, UH, LANDSCAPING ALL AROUND AS WELL.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE WAS PRETTY, PRETTY BARE.

UM, SO, UH, SOME GOOD LANDSCAPING ON THE HIGHWAY SIDE AS WELL AS THE, THE RESIDENTIAL SIDES AS WELL.

AND THAT WAS MY, UH, NEXT QUESTION.

SO, UM, TO, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S QUITE A DISTANCE BETWEEN THE, UM, ABUTTING PROPERTIES, UM, WHAT KIND OF BUFFERING WERE YOU GONNA, UH, DO TO KIND OF SEGMENT THAT, UM, BUILDING FROM THE OTHER PROPERTIES? YEAH, YEAH, GREAT.

GREAT QUESTION.

SO YEAH, JUST THE PHYSICAL SEPARATION ITSELF, UH, AND, AND THEN SOME LANDSCAPING ALONG ALL THE PROPERTY LINES TO, TO KIND OF FURTHER BUFFER IT.

UM, AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE BEST ILLUSTRATION THERE.

JUST A, A, A BLUE BOX ON A AERIAL THERE.

BUT, UH, IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, SMALL BUILDING THAT LOOKS RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE.

UH, AGAIN, ONE STORY, YOU KNOW, NOTHING, NOTHING TOO LARGE, UM, IN SIZE OR HEIGHT.

UM, DO YOU ANTICIPATE, UM, ANY HEAVY TRAFFIC IMPACT AT THIS LOCATION? NO.

UH, RIGHT.

UM, WILL THERE BE ANY MASONRY EMBALMING, JUST PURE, PURE OFFICE THERE'S, EVEN THOUGH IT IS FOR A MISSION PARK FUNERAL HOME, THERE WILL BE NO FUNERAL ACTIVITIES THERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, FOR STAFF.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, UH, WE CAN'T, UM, IMPLEMENT, UH, ANYTHING THAT, UM, DESIGNATES WHAT KIND OF STYLE THAT IT LOOKS RESIDENTIAL AND ALL THAT, THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, RIGHT? NOT FOR AN I D Z BASED ZONING REQUEST? NO.

DIDN'T THINK SO.

UM, MY, UH, NEXT QUESTION IS, UM, WITH THE SIGN, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE I D Z THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, STATE THE RESTRICTIONS? SAY FOR INSTANCE, THE HEIGHT OR THE TYPE OF SIGN, LIKE DIGITAL FLASHING, SCROLLING MESSAGE, THINGS OF THAT SORT? NO, THE I D Z BASED DOESN'T ALLOW FOR CONDITIONS LIKE THAT.

ANYTHING HIGHER THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED BY CODE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT VARIANCE REQUEST.

UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH HIM ON THE, UH,

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AND WE'LL NEED TO WORK WITH HIM BECAUSE I THINK HE HAS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE STREET IS CLASSIFIED IN YOUR MAXIMUM ALLOWANCE FOR HEIGHT AND WHAT YOU CAN REQUEST FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I THINK THEY WERE, UM, THINKING WHATEVER COULDN'T BE DONE THROUGH, UM, CODE THAT THEY WOULD DO THROUGH A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AND WHATNOT.

BUT SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL WORK TO DO THE APPLICANT? YES.

'CAUSE LET'S JUST ASSUME WITH THE LOCAL STREET YOU'RE RESTRICTED TO A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF, UH, 16 FEET.

WHEN YOU'RE ADJACENT TO A, UH, SINGLE FAMILY ZONED PROPERTY, YOUR RESTRICTION IS EVEN, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE EVEN MORE LIMITED TO EIGHT FEET.

HOWEVER, YOU'RE ABLE TO GO UP FOR EVERY ONE FOOT AWAY FROM A SINGLE FAMILY ZONED PROPERTY LINE.

UH, AND THEN A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT CANNOT DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THAT, THAT HEIGHT ALLOWANCE.

SO IT CAN ONLY REQUEST UP TO A 99.9% VARIANCE FROM THAT.

SO THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION IS, IS, IS PRETTY LOW FOR, IT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE FOR PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY AND ON LOCAL ACCESS STREETS.

INTERESTING.

UM, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTION FOR JAMES.

I JUST NEED A CLARIFICATION BECAUSE WHEN I GOT A BRIEFING EARLIER, I DID ASK THIS QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY WOULD BE MEETING WITH CLIENTS THERE AND I WAS TOLD NO, IT WAS JUST STRICTLY OFFICE WORKERS DOING ACCOUNTING AND SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

SO NOW IT ACTUALLY IS A PLACE, WILL THERE BE MEETING WITH CLIENTS? UH, YES.

UM, THAT, THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT THEN IS THAT A SEVEN DAY OPERATION OR A AS NEEDED? UM, LIKE I SAID, IT'S REALLY MAYBE A FEW HOURS A, A WEEK OR IF THERE'S ANY MISCOMMUNICATION THERE.

WELL, THAT JUST MAKES ME QUESTION WHY THEY WOULD EVEN CONSTRUCT A BUILDING IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE REGULAR STAFF THERE AND JUSTIFY THAT COST.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUEY.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, UH, I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT THE, UH, LOCATION AND YOUR SITE PLAN.

SO YOU'RE JUST KINDA A SMALL BUILDING THERE AND THEN YOU'RE PUTTING UP A, A SIGN, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

A SIGN'S GONNA BE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING OR TOP OR WHERE IS THAT SIGN? SIGN WILL BE KIND OF IN THIS GENERAL LOCATION, WE HAVE TO WORK AROUND THAT LARGE TRANSMISSION LINE.

AND AS, AS KA MENTIONED, AND I MENTIONED BEFORE, I WE NEED TO BE AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET FROM ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UM, WHICH WHICH DOES INCLUDE THE, UM, KIND OF THE TWO FOR ONE THAT KATT MENTIONED.

UM, SO LONG ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, IT WILL BE IN THIS KIND OF GENERAL AREA AS CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY, UH, AS POSSIBLE.

UH, AND THEN MAYBE MORE IMPORTANTLY ORIENTED TOWARDS THE HIGHWAY.

QUESTION FOR STAFF, IS THERE A LIMITATION ON THE SIZE OF THE SIGN? SO THERE'S A HEIGHT LIMITATION FOR A LOCAL STREET OF 16 FEET AND THERE'S A SIZE LIMITATION FOR OF 75 SQUARE FEET.

IS THAT WHAT YOU PLAN TO PUT UP IS THE UP TO THE MAXIMUM? YEAH, AND, AND SO WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING WITH THE SIGNED DEPARTMENT, UH, ON THIS OVER THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS.

AND, UH, BETTY JEAN UP HERE IS A LOCAL STREET.

BETTY JEAN HERE IS PART OF THE HIGHWAY.

UM, A AGAIN, THAT'S HIGHWAY AND TXDOT RIGHT AWAY.

UM, UH, AND WE'RE, THERE'S OTHER PROVISIONS, UH, WHEN YOU'RE WITHIN CERTAIN DISTANCE OF THE HIGHWAY.

UM, BUT I MEAN, WE'LL BE WORKING WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE CODE.

IF WE CAN'T GO AS HIGH AS WE'D, WE'D LIKE TO, THEN, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.

BUT, UH, IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING AND BELIEF THAT WE ARE GIVEN THE HIGHWAY CLASSIFICATION, UH, BECAUSE WE REALLY DO ABUT THE HIGHWAY RIGHT AWAY.

UH, AGAIN, WE ARE WILLING TO RESTRICT IT DOWN.

GOING BACK TO, UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE, UM, WHATEVER, WE CAN'T PUT IN THE ZONING.

UH, WE ARE GONNA PUT IN RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THEY'VE JUST ASKED FOR THAT MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGHT.

UM, BUT WE'D BE PERFECTLY WILLING TO PUT IN THE KIND OF RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE OFFICE BUILDING AS WELL.

SO, UM, YEAH, ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT, UM, CAN'T BE DONE IN THE ZONING, WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO ADD IN PRIVATE RESTRICTIONS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR WHITE.

AND JUST TO ADDRESS, WELL, JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, AND I THINK IT WENT TO COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL'S LAST COMMENT.

UH, I GUESS THE PURPOSE OF THIS, RIGHT, IS IT'S A CLIENT AMENITY, IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S FOR PEOPLE THAT, THAT, UM, DON'T REALLY WANT TO VISIT THE FUNERAL HOME TO, TO MAKE THEIR ARRANGEMENTS CORRECT.

AND SO THE BUSINESS IS WILLING TO, UM, FOOT THE COST AND DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, UH, TO MAKE A SPOT AVAILABLE FOR THOSE PARTICULAR CLIENT.

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WELL, I, UM, LOOKING AT THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPERTY AND, UM, IT DOESN'T FOR ME, UH, APPEAR THAT IT'S, UM, IT'S AMENABLE FOR TRUE RESIDENTIAL.

SO, UM, WITH THE THOUGHTS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE, UM, MAKING THE, UM, THE OFFICE IS EXCLUSIVE USE FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND IT WILL BE MADE TO LOOK RESIDENTIAL AND, UM, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE INTENSE LIKE IT WOULD HAVE ADVERSE IMPACT ON, UH, THE NEIGHBORING, UM, RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY WITH IT BEING RIGHT OFF THE HIGHWAY.

I AM GOING TO, UM, AND, AND AL ALSO WITH THE FACT THAT THEY ARE WORKING, UM, WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER RESTRICTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND, UM, ANY DISCUSSION? THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR APPROVAL WITH A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? UM, NO.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

[11. 19-9007 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700297 CD (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 CD AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for Motor Vehicle Sales (Full Service) on 0.567 acres out of NCB 16918, located in the 8100 block of Melbury Forest. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner (210) 207-7945, lorianne.thennes, Development Services Department)]

LORI LORIANNE, TENNIS PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 11, LOCATED IN THE 8,100 BLOCK OF MILLBURY FOREST.

I REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE.

EIGHT NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR.

AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

WERE, WERE RETURNED IN OPPOSITION.

STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? OKAY.

I THOUGHT HE WAS HERE, BUT HE MAY NOT BE ANYMORE.

OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? YES.

, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, MY NAME IS GERALDINE SMOKER.

THE NUNS CALLED ME GERALDINE, BUT I GO BY THE NAME OF JERRY.

UM, I LIVE AT 7 8 1 5 SUN FOREST DRIVE, WHICH IS IN THE COUNTY.

THE, UH, PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF MULBERRY AND THAT CAR WASH AND THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WANT TO PUT, THE, THE CAR SALE PLACE, I BELIEVE IS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WHICH IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY.

UH, I BELIEVE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT OWN THE MONTGOMERY MART ON THE CORNER, UH, LOOKING TO BUY THAT PROPERTY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YOU DON'T KNOW? NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW.

UH, I DON'T KNOW.

I , UH, I'M AN ORIGINAL OWNER IN THE PROPERTY, UH, ON SUN FOREST, WHICH IS COUNTY.

I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD OF MONTGOMERY AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS COUNTY.

UM, AND, UM, THE NEIGHBORS THAT I HAVE TALKED TO, WHICH ARE ALL COUNTY RESIDENTS, ARE AGAINST THAT, UM, CAR SALE PLACE.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, MONTGOMERY IS A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, SO WHY WOULD YOU PUT A CAR LOT? WHAT IS NOT VISIBLE TO A MAIN DRAG? AND IF SOMEBODY, IF THEY, IF THAT DOES GO IN THERE AND PEOPLE GO TO TEST DRIVE A CAR, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GO? THEY'RE GONNA DRIVE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

HAD TO, IF RECENTLY YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S BEEN FENCED IN BECAUSE IT WAS AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE.

UH, WE ARE AGAINST THAT.

UM, IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY GOOD FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'VE HAD SO MUCH TROUBLE, UH, ON THAT CORNER WITH THAT CAR WASH THAT WAS IN ONE OF THE PICTURES.

UM, WE'VE

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WE HAVE DEALT WITH, UH, TRASH PICKUP THERE FOR YEARS.

UM, IT'S BEEN A HAVEN FOR DRUGS, PROSTITUTION, UH, HOMELESS PEOPLE.

HOMELESS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LIVING AT THE CAR WASH.

AND FINALLY WE DID GET IT FENCED IN ONLY BECAUSE OF SOME, SO MANY COMPLAINTS.

BUT THE, THE CORNER HOUSE, UM, THE, UM, THE CORNER STORE, WHICH IS MONTGOMERY MART, UM, WHEN THEY BOUGHT THAT, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO GO THERE 30 SECONDS AND TELL THEM CONGRATULATIONS.

BUT I AM PERSONALLY AGAINST THAT.

THAT CAR BOUGHT, I MEAN THE CAR SALE, UH, PLACE TO GO IN THERE BECAUSE IT IS RESIDENTIAL.

ARTIS SHARE.

THAT'S THE APPLICANT NAME.

IS HE HERE? ARTIS SHARE SOBI? APPARENTLY HIS BROTHER SAID THAT HE'S COMING.

OH, HE STEPPED TO THE RESTROOM.

WELL LET'S TAKE A BREAK.

, CAN I DO THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF A CASE? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S, UH, TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK PLEASE.

UM, WE'LL COME BACK INTO SESSION AT 3:24 PM ARE WE READY FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.

OH, THE, UH, MY ADDRESS, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC, SIR? YES.

8 1 0 0 FOREST.

THE ADDRESS WHERE YOU LIVE? 12 7 10 PRIMEA VISTA, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.

TELL US ABOUT YOUR CASE, SIR.

YEAH, SO WE TRY TO RUN A, A BUSINESS, A SMALL BUSINESS FOR CALL DEALER, MY LINE, AND WE, UH, TRY TO RE RESIGNING TO, UH, C UH, C TWO CD.

THANK YOU SIR.

WE'LL STAY NEARBY.

WE'LL BE CALLING YOU UP FOR QUESTIONS.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, THAT WAS JUST THE ONE SPEAKER, MA'AM.

UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT SIR, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE, UH, THE CAR LOT THAT YOU, UH, WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN PLACE AND, UH, YEAH, JUST TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UH, EXACTLY ABOUT WHAT, I GUESS.

UM, SO YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING TO PUT THE CAR, THE CAR LOT, UH, IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE CAR WASH AREA THAT'S CLOSED OFF.

WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLES ARE YOU GONNA BE SELLING THERE? OLD, NEW, UM, HOW MANY CARS WILL YOU HAVE THERE? OLD CAR AND, UH, WE DECIDE TO RUN 10 TO 15 CAR.

AS FAR AS A, A BUILDING OR INFRASTRUCTURE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, WHAT TYPE OF OFFICE SPACE WOULD YOU HAVE, UM, PLACED THERE? UH, YEAH.

WHAT TYPE OF OFFICE? JUST A SMALL, UH, I GIVE THEM THE MEASUREMENT.

UH, LIKE 240 SQUARE FEET, PROBABLY JUST FOR A SMALL OFFICE.

DECIDE WHAT'S KIND RIGHT NOW, SO WE JUST WAITING FOR REASONING.

SO LIKE A, UM, UM, WHAT CAN I SAY? UM, WHAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE? BRICKED IN, UM, VINYL ENCLOSURE.

I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? IT'S LIKE, UH, WE EXACTLY

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THEN WE MAKE A DECISION.

WHAT KIND.

AND ONE OTHER QUESTION.

UM, YOU, YOU OWN ANY OTHER PROPERTY NEARBY? UM, THIS AREA WHERE YOU LOOKING TO LOOK? PUT THE CAR LOT.

ANY OTHER PROPERTY OWNED BY YOU IN THAT AREA? YEAH.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PROPERTY IN THAT AREA NEAR THE, THE CAR LOT? NO, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW.

OPEN IT UP TO, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

SURE.

UM, BEFORE I OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, CAN I JUST ASK, IS THIS THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS BEFORE US? UH, ANOTHER, UM, NOT THAT LONG AGO BY SOMEONE ELSE? NO.

OH, IS THIS ONE? NOT THAT WE ARE AWARE OF.

IT DOES LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO, UM, ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT WAS RECENTLY LOOKED AT, BUT I BELIEVE THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND IT.

UM, I GUESS WE DON'T REMEMBER, BUT C CAME FOR A C THREE.

AND DO WE REMEMBER THE OUTCOME? WE COULDN'T SELL IT AS IT IS.

OH.

AND, AND SO DID WE, DO YOU REMEMBER THE OUTCOME? WE DIDN'T APPROVE IT.

ALRIGHTYY.

SO YES.

THIS, YEAH, THIS WAS THE SAME PROPERTY 'CAUSE IT WAS THE O C L, ALL OF THAT.

UM, AND I GUESS THEY CAME BECAUSE HE WAS HAVING A HARD TIME SELLING THE PROPERTY AND SO I GUESS FROM OUR COLLECTIVE RECOLLECTION, WE DIDN'T, UM, APPROVE IT, BUT, OKAY.

UM, WHILE Y'ALL ARE FIGURING THAT OUT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

UM, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUI.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT PLEASE.

UH, WHAT DO YOU INTEND AS YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION AND DAYS OF OPERATION? PROBABLY FROM UH, EIGHT TO FOUR.

TALKING ABOUT THE HOURS? YEAH.

FROM, UH, MONDAY TO, UH, FRIDAY.

AND HOW MANY CARS WERE YOU PLANNING TO HAVE ON THE, ON THE LOT AT ANY ONE TIME? 10.

10 TO 15.

THIS MAYBE.

SORRY.

UM, ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING ANY WORK TO THE CARS THERE? ANY MECHANIC WORK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, WE JUST, UH, DECIDED TO SELL.

'CAUSE I, I NOTICED ON YOUR, ON THE SITE PLAN, IT SAYS SALES AND THEN IN PARENTHESES IT SAYS FULL SERVICE.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW A BIG SERVICE, LIKE A WASH IT OR LIKE A CHANGE, A FILTER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

JUST A SMALL SERVICE, NOT A BIG, LIKE A CHANGE IT ENGINE OR SOMETHING? NO.

SO LIKE A, A LIGHT SERVICE.

AND HOW LARGE IS THE, IS THE PARCEL WHAT SIZE, HOW LARGE IS IT? UH, UH, 300.

SO WE DID LOOK IT UP, ACTUALLY.

Y'ALL ARE RIGHT.

IT WAS, BUT THIS IS WHAT REASON WHY IT'S NOT FLAGGED FOR US BECAUSE IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR.

THE ONLY TIME IT FLAGS FOR US IS IF IT'S WITHIN A YEAR BECAUSE OF ANY DENIALS AND THEY CAN'T APPLY.

UH, SO THIS CAME TO ZONING COMMISSION BACK IN, IN MARCH OF 2018.

UM, AND, UH, WHICH MEANT THAT IT MAY, MAY HAVE GONE TO COUNCIL IN APRIL OF 2018.

AND SO IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR.

SO THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T POP UP FOR US AND IT WAS IN OUR OLD SYSTEM VERSUS OUR NEW SYSTEM.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT WITH QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO.

SO ACTUALLY WE WERE RIGHT.

UM, .

CAN, CAN YOU RE YOU WERE RIGHT.

I WAS WRONG.

FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU REMIND US, UM, WHAT KIND OF REPAIRS AND SERVICE CAN YOU DO WHEN YOU HAVE A A CAR? CAR SALES JUST FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCKS.

UM, SO I MEAN, YOU CAN DO ENGINE REPAIR BASICALLY IN ANY REPAIR THAT DOESN'T CONSTITUTE BODY WORK YOU CAN DO.

SO OIL CHANGES, THAT KIND OF STUFF? YES.

UH, FROM OIL CHANGES TO, UH, ENGINE REPAIR.

THERE OR ON THE BACK OF A TRAILER? NO, BECAUSE WE, WE, WE BUY THE RUNNING CAR.

COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO HOW WILL YOU BE GETTING YOUR SHIPMENT OF CARS? HOW WILL THEY ARRIVE TO THIS LOT? UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS EXACTLY, BUT UH, PROBABLY WE DRIVE IT AND TAKE IT INSIDE THE PLANT.

SO YOU'LL DRIVE IT, YOU WON'T HAVE A CAR HOLLER OR THEY WON'T BE TOWED

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IT'S NOT WITH A BIG PROBLEM, SO WE JUST DRIVE IT AND TAKE IT.

AND YOU SAID BETWEEN 12 TO 15 CARS? NO, I SAID BETWEEN 10 TO 15.

10 TO 15.

I'M SORRY, MY MISTAKE.

CAN YOU COME BACK TO THE, UH, SORRY, .

SO, UM, CAN YOU, UM, TELL ME A L WHAT DID YOU, YOU PROBABLY SAID YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION ALREADY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? YES, FROM MONDAY TO FRIDAY? FROM EIGHT TO FOUR OR FIVE.

AND THEN, UM, LOOKING, UM, AT THE FACT THAT YOUR BUSINESS IS FACING ALL THOSE, UH, RESIDENTS, SO WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS TO, UM, MAKE IT FRIENDLY AND NOT, UH, HOW IT LOOKS AESTHETICALLY TO THE NEIGHBORS? AND HOW DO YOU KEEP YOUR, UH, CLIENTS, UM, FROM ENCROACHING OR YOUR BUSINESS FROM ENCROACHING ON? THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE ACROSS THE STREET CAN SAY AGAIN CLEARLY.

SO, UM, HOW YOUR BUSINESS IS GONNA LOOK, THINKING THAT THERE'S ALL THESE NEIGHBORS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

HOW, HOW ARE YOU GONNA, UM, TAKE CARE OF YOUR BUSINESS AND MAKE IT LOOK SINCE SO IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THEIR PEACE OF LIVING? MAKE THE NEIGHBOR HAPPY.

SO, YES.

SO WE, YEAH, WE THINKING ABOUT THIS THING BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR NEIGHBOR IS, UH, RESIDENTIAL.

SO, UH, THAT'S WHY WE NO ONE TO DEPOSIT MORE THAN 10 TO 15 CARS.

AND WE, UH, ALSO WHEN THE CUSTOMER COMING IN, SO WE TALKED TO HIM AND LET HIM KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT MY NEIGHBOR AND ABOUT THE, THE TRYING THE CAR.

WE NOT LET HIM TRY TO THAT AREA.

THEY TAKE IT TO MECHANIC SHOP OR OUT FROM THAT AREA.

THIS IS FIRST THING WE THINKING.

HOW, HOW CAN YOU CONTROL WHAT, HOW THEY TEST DRIVE IT? HOW CAN YOU CONTROL THAT? YEAH, WE TALK TO CUSTOMER.

THEY CAN'T TRY TO CAR IN THAT AREA.

THEY SHOULD TAKE IT TO MECHANIC.

THIS IS FIRST THING.

WE TALKED TO A CUSTOMER WHEN CAME IN, WHEN THEY TRY TO, UH, DRIVE TEST IT.

SO THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THE MECHANIC OR OUTSIDE FROM THAT AREA TO, TO CHECK IT.

AND CAN YOU, I TELL THEM.

CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT, UM, THE APPEARANCE OF THE OFFICE? HOW, WHAT KIND OF, WAS IT GONNA BE MASONRY? WHAT KIND OF OFFICE WAS IT GONNA BE? HOW WAS IT GONNA BE? LOOK, UH, HONESTLY, STILL WE DIDN'T, UH, THINKING ABOUT THIS, BUT, UH, WE TRIED TO PUT A GOOD, UH, UH, GOOD LOOK AT BUILDING AND, UH, LANDSCAPING.

WERE YOU GONNA, WHAT KIND OF LANDSCAPING WERE YOU PLANNING? YOU MEAN ABOUT THE GREENERY, TREES, SHRUBBERY THINGS OF THAT SORT FOR THE LANDS OR THE FOR THE LAND? YES.

, UH, THAT BUFFERS YOUR PROPERTY, THE OUTLINE OF YOUR PROPERTY.

OH, WITH THE SCREEN FENCE.

, WE TRY TO, UH, FENCE IT WITH THE SCREEN FENCE AROUND.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER TOSEN.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR, YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

UH, AND THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE RESIDENT THAT'S, UH, THAT LIVES, UH, NEARBY.

UM, I KNOW STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UM, AFTER HEARING, UH, THE APPLICANT AND, UH, THE MEASURES THAT HE'S WILLING TO TAKE TO, UM, PUT SOME GOOD CARS IN THE AREA.

UM, LIMIT THE, I GUESS, UM, UH, AS GO ALONG WITH THE, YOU KNOW, UH, RESPECTING THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.

UM, IT'S NOT TOO FAR AWAY FOR SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS.

I KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS SPOKE TO, UM, SOME THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING IN THE AREA, UM, THAT WERE MAYBE NEGATIVE.

I THINK THIS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE POSITIVE.

UH, HAVE A MORE OF A POSITIVE COMPONENT TO, UM, UM, PUTTING IT IN PLACE.

UM, SO I AM GOING TO, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE, UM, SO THAT HE COULD, UH, LAUNCH HIS BUSINESS.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND WITH NO SECOND.

HOLD ON.

COMMISSIONER, UH, MCDANIEL, THEN COMMISSIONER ROMERO.

ARE YOU, ARE YOU STILL CON WE HAVE

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WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? UM, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

I, I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT'S WITNESS TO WORK WITH THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY.

HOWEVER, I STAND AS I DID BEFORE ON THIS CASE PREVIOUSLY, THAT I, I DON'T WANT TO SEE AN INTRODUCTION OF WHAT I THINK STILL IS KIND OF AN INTENSE USE INTO A COMMUNITY AREA.

UM, THE, THE APPLICANT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS ARE NOT DRIVING AND TEST DRIVING.

THERE'S CARS UP AND DOWN THESE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.

UM, LAST TIME WHEN I BELIEVE IT WAS AUTO REPAIR, THE CONCERNS WERE ABOUT ROSIO CREEK AND WE WERE NOT, UM, ASSURED THAT THAT WOULD BE PROTECTED WITH ANY KIND OF, UH, AUTO SERVICE.

SO I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS ON THIS ONE.

SO I, I WON'T SUPPORT THIS MOTION EITHER.

UM, I ALSO WON'T BE ABLE TO, UH, SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

UM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S, UM, WITH THAT USE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE, IT'S ALREADY, UM, I DRIVE THIS AREA QUITE A BIT AND I EVEN THE CAR WASH SEEMS A LITTLE INTENSE FOR THAT AREA, BUT, ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UM, COMMENTS? OKAY, ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER TOLSON? YES.

COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? NO.

COMMISSIONER HUI? NO.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO.

COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO.

COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE? NO.

MADAM CHAIR, NO.

MOTION FAILS.

I, YOUR OPTIONS ARE, YOU HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

IF THERE'S NO MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE ITEM COMES BACK.

I'M GONNA MOVE TO RECONSIDER.

SECOND.

A MOTION TO RECONSIDER WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

UM, ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE.

COMMISSIONER HUI? YES.

COMMISSIONER TOSEN? UH, YES.

AND MADAM CHAIR? YES.

I MOVE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, FOR DENIAL WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

UH, DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE.

AND MADAM CHAIR? YES.

[12. 19-9159 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700300 (Council District 6): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 2, Block 10, NCB 15569, located at 7015 Remuda Drive. Staff recommends Denial, with an Alternate Recommendation. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]

RESPONSE FROM THE CABLE WEST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, OR LACKLAND TERRANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

MARK RAVI, SENIOR PLANNER FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER 12 IS ON 70 15 REMUDA.

21.

NOTICES WERE SENT OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS ZERO, UH, IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED NO

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LACK OF THE AIR FORCE BASE HAS NO OBJECTION.

UH, STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED C TWO WOULD ENCROACH INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA, HOWEVER, THE OFFICE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET, SLIGHTLY MORE ENCROACHING.

UH, THE ALTERNATE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C ONE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WOULD REDUCE COMMERCIAL INTENSITY WHILE ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL UNIT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS IT NOW WITH A ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C ONE AND THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE BILL JANUARY 21ST.

IS, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? MM-HMM.

UM, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING BESIDES YOU WANNA CONTINUE? IT'S, UM, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF THIS PROPERTY WAS A HEADACHE, AND, UH, WE WERE PROCESSING, I GUESS, SO LANDLINE REMOVED, AND THEY REQUEST TO US TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

SO THAT'S, I'M HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? THERE ISN'T.

GREAT.

UH, COMMISSIONER HUEY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR APPLICANT FOR COMING.

UH, SO WITH THAT, UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE, UH, THIS CASE TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL THE 21ST OF, UH, JANUARY 2ND.

THERE'S A MOTION, UH, FOR CONTINUANCE WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER HUEY.

MICHAEL PEPE, PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

GOOD

[13. 19-9180 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700301 S (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "AE-2 AHOD" Arts and Entertainment Airport Hazard Overlay District to "AE-2 S AHOD" Arts and Entertainment Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Specific Use Authorization for three (3) dwelling units on Lot 26, Block 109, NCB 1386, located at 811 Montana Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)]

AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS ITEM 13, LOCATED 8 8 1 1 MONTANA STREET IS A REQUEST THAT CHANGE OF ZONING FROM AE TWO TO EIGHT E AE TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR THREE UNITS.

TH 37 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

WERE RETURN IN FAVOR, THREE IN OPPOSITION.

THE DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE, AND THERE WERE TWO LETTERS OF OPERATE OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.

STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATIONS TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

UH, SINCE THEN OR STARTING THAT POINT, I STARTED, YOU KNOW, MEETING WITH THE DENVER HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION AND BEING VERY ACTIVE WITH THEM.

MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? HELLO, GOOD EVENING.

UH, WELL, MY NAME IS 7 0 1 MONTANA.

I'M THE APPLICANT, ONM, THE EIGHT 11 MONTANA.

I'M, I'M A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER.

YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS THAT MY DAD STARTED PRETTY MUCH 60 YEARS AGO.

SO FROM WHAT HE TAUGHT US, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE DEAL WITH THE PROJECT, WE ALWAYS NEED TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UH, SO PRETTY MUCH THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, OR WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING, YOU KNOW, SINCE I BOUGHT THE FIRST PLACE HERE IN DENVER HEIGHTS, WHICH IS 7 0 1 MONTANA.

UH, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT FROM SAN ANTONIO, SO WHEN I STARTED, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING IN SAN ANTONIO, I STARTED, YOU KNOW, TALKING WITH PEOPLE OF WHERE TO GO AND WHERE NOT TO GO.

AND, YOU KNOW, BO I STARTED HEARING AND SAYING, HEY, GO PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE AROUND SAN ANTONIO, BUT KIND OF DO NOT GO TO THE EAST SIDE.

HOW WRONG THOSE VOICES WERE.

YOU KNOW, UH, PRETTY MUCH A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I GOT LOST ON THE EAST SIDE AND I JUST GOT IN LOVE WITH IT.

FORTUNATELY FOR ME, THAT DAY WHEN I WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, DRIVING AROUND AND I WAS LOST, I SAW THIS SIGN, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR SALE SIGN ON THE CORNER OF MONTANA AND PINE, WHICH IS A PROPERTY THAT I BOUGHT.

I GOT IN LOVE WITH THE HOUSE.

I IMMEDIATELY GOT IN CONTRACT WITH IT AND I BOUGHT IT.

IT'S A 1900 VICTORIAN HOUSE HISTORICAL, ONE OF THOSE FEW HISTORICAL HOUSES IN THE, IN DENVER HEIGHTS.

AND AGAIN, I BOUGHT IT IMMEDIATELY, BOUGHT IT.

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AND WHAT I LEARNED FROM DENVER HEIGHTS IS THAT IT'S A GORGEOUS PLACE.

I DUNNO HOW OFTEN YOU GO THERE, HOW OFTEN YOU DRIVE AROUND THAT AREA, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY IN THE PLACE.

UH, JUST FEW BLOCKS FROM EIGHT 11 MONTANA OR 7 0 1 MONTANA, WE DO HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL CEMETERIES.

I'M A RUNNER.

I DUNNO IF YOU GUYS ARE AROUND, BUT IF YOU DO, PLEASE GO AROUND, RUN AROUND THAT AREA.

LOT OF HISTORY.

YOU START FROM THE 1840S ALL THE WAY TO THE 1950S GOING ALL THOSE CEMETERIES.

AGAIN, A PLACE WHICH EVERYONE SHOULD GO, BUT UNFORTUNATELY SPEAKING, PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING THERE.

SO, YES, SINCE THEN, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO MY BEST IN ORDER TO CREATE A BETTER ENVIRONMENT IN THE PLACE AND TO BRING PEOPLE INTO IT.

UH, I DUNNO IF YOU HAVE HEARD, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN MIAMI, THE WIND WORLD, WOL, OR IF YOU HAVE BEEN INTO PHILADELPHIA, ALL THE MURALS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CREATING THERE, OR IN A MOBILE, ALABAMA, SAME THING DOWNTOWN AN AREA.

SO HAVING ALL THOSE THINGS AND ALL THOSE LEARNINGS, THAT'S WHAT I STARTED DOING.

UH, YOU KNOW, PLACING FIRST A MURAL IN 7 0 1 MONTANA, THEN PLACING A SECOND MURAL IN, IN, IN MY SAME PROPERTY.

THEN MY, UM, MY NEIGHBOR IN FRONT OF ME, MRS. DEBBIE, HE, SHE APPROACHED ME AND SHE TOLD ME, HEY, THIS IS BEAUTIFUL WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

HEY, WOULD YOU MIND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SHARING ME OF WHAT TO DO WITH THESE MURALS? YES MA'AM.

FOR SURE.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE MURALS WERE CREATED BY TWO LOCAL ARTISTS THAT THEY LIVE PRETTY MUCH FIVE BLOCKS AROUND WHERE, WHERE THE PLACE IS.

SO I STARTED, YOU KNOW, UH, APPROACHING MS. DEBBIE WITH THE, WITH THE ARTIST.

AND ONE DAY, MRS. DEBBIE TOLD ME, WELL, I WOULD LOVE TO DO IT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY SPEAKING, I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IT.

WHICH AT THE END, YOU KNOW, I TOLD MRS. DEBBIE, WELL, YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING VERY NICE, THIS BEAUTIFUL CORNER WALL THAT YOU HAVE, SO WHY DON'T WE SHARE THIS? YOU ALLOWED ME TO DO IT IN THAT WALL, AND I DO WHATEVER I CAN DO WITH THOSE ARTISTS TO DO THE MURAL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

UH, SO I DUNNO, IF YOU HAVE BEEN MONTANA PINE, IF YOU HAVEN'T, PLEASE DO SO AFTER THIS MEETING, AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE THOSE MURALS.

SO FROM THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN DOING SOME OTHER PROJECTS AND ALL THE PROJECTS THAT I'M ENGAGING RIGHT NOW ON THE DENVER HEIGHTS AREA, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING, YOU KNOW, PLACING MURALS IN, IN THE, IN THE FRONT FACADES AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO CREATE A BETTER ENVIRONMENT THERE, UH, ALONG THESE LINES, YOU KNOW, I MET THIS GREAT PERSON, MR. CHARLES WILLIAMS, THAT ACTUALLY HE'S HERE WITH ME.

UH, YOU KNOW, HE HAS BEEN CALLING ME LATELY THAT I'M KIND OF HIS SON.

I CALLED HIM ALSO THAT HE'S MY DAD.

UH, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, HE SHARED TO ME ONE DAY THAT HE HAD A DREAM, A DREAM THAT WAS TO CREATE A MUSEUM, UH, YOU KNOW, IN DENVER HEIGHTS IN ORDER TO SHOW THE HISTORY BEHIND THAT AREA.

SO IMMEDIATELY I JUMPED INTO THAT DREAM AND I TOLD MR. WILLIAMS, HEY, YOU TELL ME WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO, TO CREATE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT DREAM.

SO WE BOTH PARTNER IN AND JOIN FORCES IN ORDER TO CREATE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW ON THE CORNER IN HACKBERRY.

WE BOUGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, A CHURCH THERE, WHICH IT HAD THE PASTOR'S HOUSE AND THE DINING AREA PLACE.

SO NOW WE'RE WORKING AND CONVERTING, YOU KNOW, THAT CHURCH INTO MUSEUM, THE PASTOR'S HOUSE.

I JUST REHAB IT BASED UPON WHAT THE A G R C PEOPLE TOLD ME IS THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UH, HISTORICAL VALUE, BUT THEY WANTED ME TO KEEP IT.

SO I DID ALL MY EFFORT IN ORDER TO REHAB IT.

AND NOW, UH, WE'RE JUST PRETTY MUCH CLOSE TO STARTING OPERATIONS THERE.

WE'RE CONVERTING IT INTO A BED AND BREAKFAST.

AGAIN, MORE THAN INVITED TO GO ON TO AND TO SHOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND ON THE OTHER BUILDING THAT WE HAVE THERE, UH, I'M CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS LOCAL ARTIST, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO CONVERT IT KIND OF A CULTURAL PLACE, YOU KNOW, A PLACE IN WHICH THEY CAN HAVE THEIR STUDIOS AND WE CAN START, YOU KNOW, BRINGING PEOPLE INTO, INTO DENVER HEIGHTS AND TO SHOW THESE MURALS AND ALL THIS ART.

CURRENTLY, AS I'M, AS I WAS TELLING YOU, I'M WORKING IN, IN DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THE AREA.

AND THE, AND NOT ONLY BRINGING IN LOCAL ARTISTS, THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING.

YOU KNOW, THE ARTISTS THAT I'M USING, THEY LIVE AROUND FIVE TO 10 BLOCKS AROUND THE AREA, BUT ALSO ALL THE, THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING AT THE PROJECTS, ALL THOSE SUBS THAT I'M HIRING, THEY PRETTY MUCH 60 TO 70% OF THOSE GUYS, THEY ARE FROM THE AREA.

SO I'M TRULY COMMITTED ON WHAT MY DAD TAUGHT ME, YOU KNOW, ABOUT BEING INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

'CAUSE NOW I'M A LITTLE BIT PASSIONATE OF DENVER HEIGHTS.

UH, SO YES, I HAVE BEEN WORKING A LOT.

I WILL KEEP ON WORKING A LOT IN THE AREA.

AND THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY, YES, IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS OTHER NEW PROJECT COMING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP ON AGAIN, YOU KNOW, RECONVERTING AND BEAUTIFYING

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THE PLACE.

UH, AFTER TALKING WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, MR. LEWIS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE DENVER HEIGHTS, UH, ABOUT THE INTENTIONS OF THE PROJECT, IF YOU DO THE NUMBERS, DENSITIES AND ALL THAT, YES, IT'S AN A TWO AND A TWO ALLOWS EVEN TO GO TO FOUR UNITS.

BUT BECAUSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF, OF, OF THE LOT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WE SPEAK, I CAN BUILD IMMEDIATELY TWO HOUSES.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ZONING CHANGE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO GET A THIRD ONE.

I COULD EVEN GO TO A FOURTH ONE.

BUT WHAT I TOLD MR. LEWIS IS, HEY, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING NICE IN WHICH WE MAY END UP HAVING SOME COURTYARDS, YOU KNOW, GREEN AREAS BETWEEN THE HOUSES.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ALSO ONLY ASKING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THREE UNITS.

THE WAY THE PROJECT IS GONNA LOOK LIKE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE HOUSE FACING MONTANA, A TWO STORY HOUSE WITH A BEAUTIFUL BETE TOWARDS MONTANA.

THEN BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, MY NEIGHBOR, LET'S SAY ON MY RIGHT ON, SORRY, ON MY LEFT HAND SIDE, BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT OF, OF HIS HOUSE, IF I BUILD A TWO HOUSE, A TWO STORY HOUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T, IT, WE COULDN'T HAVE ANY VIEW, ESPECIALLY THE ABUSE OF IT, OF, UH, DENVER HEIGHTS.

AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE, THEY'RE THE MOST OUTSTANDING VIEWS TO DOWNTOWN AREA.

UH, SO THAT'S WHY I'M CONSIDERING THAT ONE ON THE CENTER, YOU KNOW, TO BE A THREE STORY HOUSE, AND THEN THE ONE ON THE BACK TO BE AGAIN, A TWO STORY HOUSE.

UH, SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE MY INTENTIONS, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP ON IF YOU ALLOW ME TO, TO KEEP ON DOING THIS TYPE OF PROJECTS IN THE AREA AND TO KEEP ON PROMOTING THE COMMUNITY THEATER.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

WELCOME.

IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? MONICA SABINO, FOLLOWED BY JESSE SANCHEZ.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE TWO GOOD POINTS OR IMPORTANT POINTS.

UM, MY HUSBAND AND I, MY, UH, RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS.

MY NAME IS MONICA SAVINO.

I'M AT, I LIVE AT 1120 EAST CROCKETT.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF COMMERCE.

I OWN 7 24 MONTANA STREET, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

MY HUSBAND AND I OWN THE PROPERTY AT MONTANA, AND WE'RE MEMBERS OF THE DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

WE DID NOT HEAR ABOUT THIS CASE FROM THE CITY, NOR DID WE HEAR ABOUT IT FROM DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

A NEIGHBOR CONTACTED ME LAST WEEK ABOUT THIS, BUT WE ARE, I AM OPPOSING THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE THREE LARGE HOUSES ON ONE LIGHT LOT ARE INAPPROPRIATE FOR THIS MODEST SCALE BLOCK OF ALL ONE STORY HOUSES.

THE LAND USE PLAN IN THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS DERIVED FROM THE DOWNTOWN CONCEPT MAP THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC DEVELOPED DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS.

SPECIFICALLY ITEM G DENVER HEIGHTS, SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING AT THE MAXIMUM DENSITY OF EIGHT UNITS PER GROSS ACRE, CONTINUATION OF INFILL AND HOUSING REHAB, REHABILITATION DEVELOPMENT TO MAINTAIN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL NOT MAINTAIN THE EXISTING HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, BUT WILL GREATLY COMPROMISE IT SIMPLY WITH THE DENSITY OF 21 UNITS PER ACRE, NOT EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE.

21, I THINK WE CAN AGREE THAT THE EIGHT WAS PRE WELL IS GENERAL, AND IT WAS DONE 10 YEARS AGO.

BUT THE INTENT IS THERE.

IT IS LOW DENSITY.

IT IS MEANT TO BE LOW DENSITY AS IT IS CURRENTLY.

THE AVERAGE DENSITY CURRENTLY IS 8.6, AND THAT'S INCLUDING THE COMMERCIAL USE LANDMARK CAFE AND THE TINY LOT NEXT TO IT.

SO 21 UNITS PER ACRE WOULD BE VERY DISRUPTIVE DENSITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING AS IT WOULD BE IN MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

SECOND ITEM PER U D C AE DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOODS MASTER PLAN POLICY ONE A SAYS, REZONE VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTY IN AND AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS TO ENCOURAGE REDEVELOPMENT GOOD THAT IS COMPATIBLE IN USE AND IN INTENSITY WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE THIS INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR MEASURING INTENSITY IS FLOOR AREA RATIO, WHICH IS BUILT AREA DIVIDED BY AVAILABLE LAND AREA.

SO THE RESULTING FAR ON THESE PROPO PROJECTS ARE ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE OF THE EXISTING AVERAGE.

FAR, THE AVERAGE FAR IS 0.39.

THESE ARE AS HIGH AS 0.7, TWO 30 SECONDS, BOTH IN INTENSITY AND GOING FAST.

AS THE INTENSITY AND INTENSITY, THIS PROJECT WON'T BE COMPATIBLE IN INTENSITY AND WILL NOT MAINTAIN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER ON MONTANA IN THIS MID-BLOCK LOCATION TO COMPLY WITH THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND RESPECTFULLY RESPOND TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORS WHO'VE BEEN IN THEIR HOUSES FOR ONE YEAR OR 50 YEARS, I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION TO

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DENY THE REQUEST, MAINTAIN THE BASE ZONING, AND LIMIT INFILL TO TWO HOUSES.

THAT'S THREE MINUTES WITH A SUITABLE FRONT SETBACK ON MONTANA.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

JESSE SANCHEZ, FOLLOWED BY MARK KUI.

MY NAME IS JESSE SANCHEZ.

I LIVE AT 8 1 5 MONTANA.

OUT OF EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE, I'M THE ONE THAT'S MOST IMPACT IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UH, WE'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR 78 YEARS.

I'M NOT 78 YEARS OLD, BUT I'VE LIVED THERE ALL MY LIFE.

IF YOU SEE THE HOUSES, MY HOUSE IS RIGHT TO THE RIGHT GOING EAST.

THAT IS ONE HOUSE HE'S PROPOSING TO MAKE TWO HOUSES.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE ON THAT LOT FOR TWO HOUSES.

HE'S ALSO PROPOSING THREE, FOUR.

THERE IS NO ROOM FOR FOUR HOUSES ON THAT LOT.

I'VE COME INTO POSSESSION OF A DRAWING THAT HE'S PROPOSED.

UH, YOU MAY SEE IT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT HE'S GOT A HOUSE COMING FROM MONTANA STREET.

TWO STORY GOING INWARD ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, ABUTTING MY FENCE.

OKAY? THERE'S NO INDICATION OF FEET, INCHES, ANYTHING.

THE NEXT HOUSE WOULD BE A THREE STORY HOUSE.

OKAY? THEN THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER HOUSE CLOSE TO THE ALLEY, THE THIRD HOUSE.

ALL THE HOUSES ARE TO THE RIGHT.

AND THEN A LONG DRIVEWAY COME INTO ALL THESE HOUSES.

HE'S GOT IN THE DRAWING GARAGES FOR EACH HOUSE.

FOR TWO CARS, YOU'RE PUTTING SIX CARS ON ONE LITTLE LOT.

THAT'S NOT INCLUDING CHILDREN THAT MAY HAVE CARS.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MESS OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE, KNOCKING ON DOORS.

LET ME OUT, LET ME GET IN.

IF THEY DECIDE TO PARK IN THE, UH, ON THE DRIVEWAY, A THREE STORY HOUSE OR EVEN A TWO STORY HOUSE GOING TO IMPACT ANY VIEW I HAVE, BECAUSE MINE IS A ONE STORY OF DOWNTOWN, A THREE STORY HOUSE WILL LOOK TOWARDS DOWNTOWN.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT, UH, SEEING THE SCENERY AND ALL THAT.

ALL YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS A TOP OFT TREE.

I'VE LIVED THERE ALL MY LIFE.

I KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I CAN TELL YOU THE NAMES OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN ALL THESE HOUSES.

OKAY? HE SAYS HE CARESS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND IS MADE OUTREACH AND ALL THAT.

I LIVED DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR.

I KNEW NOTHING OF HIM.

NOT A BUSINESS CARD, NOT A KNOCK ON THE DOOR, NOT A, UH, PHONE CALL.

NOT ONLY WOULD THIS IMPACT, UH, MY HOUSE, BUT IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT.

THERE ARE SEVEN TREES ON THE SPOT, 30 SECONDS.

THERE ARE TWO TREES THAT ARE OVER 100 YEARS OLD IN ORDER WITH THE, I SEE IN THE DRAWING.

ALL THOSE TREES NEED TO COME DOWN, AFFECT ALL HOUSES.

YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT MORE, UH, IMPACT ON THE ELECTRICAL GRID WITH ONE OLD TRANSFORMER IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

THERE'S FOUR HOUSES HOOKED UP TO IT.

THE FIFTH WOULD BE ON THAT LIGHT, PLUS TWO MORE WOULD BE SEVEN.

THAT'S THREE MINUTES.

AND I WOULD OPPOSE IT.

I, I JUST WANNA SAY I DID NOT MAIL ANYTHING IN, BUT I'M HERE TO, UH, GIVE YOU MY ORAL OPPOSITION.

MARK ZI, FOLLOWED BY, UM, REBECCA DAVIS.

RESIDENT DISPLACEMENT DUE TO HIGHER ASSESSED TAXES.

MY NAME'S MARK ZI.

I OWN 7 24 MONTANA.

I LIVE AT 1120 EAST CROCKETT STREET.

I'M IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.

ONE OF THE APPROVED CRITERIA THAT STAFF USES IN THIS APPLICATION IS TO CONSIDER THE QUOTE, ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORING LANDS.

NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES WILL DEFINITELY BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY THE SUBDIVISION OF LAND AND MULTI-UNIT HOUSING THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

FOR ONE THING, IT'S NO SECRET THAT PARKING WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM IN THIS AREA AND MADE EVEN WORSE THROUGH UNPRECEDENTED DENSITY.

ANOTHER ADVERSE IMPACT IS REGARDING PROPERTY TAXES.

I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS PREVAILING TOPIC OF THE PAST FEW YEARS.

IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED THAT SUBDIVIDING PARCELS FOR THIS TYPE OF INFILL DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY INCREASES THE PER SQUARE FOOT RATE OF LAND VALUES.

AND THIS HAS A DIRECT EFFECT ON EVERYONE IN THIS AREA.

IT CAN BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO OCCUPANT HARDSHIPS, EVEN LEGACY

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I AM NOT PREPARED TO LET MY PROPERTY TAXES CONTINUE TO INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE VACANT LOT THAT SOLD FOR SAY, 55 TO $60,000 HAS NOW THREE, $300,000 HOUSES ON IT.

AND I DOUBT MY NEIGHBORS ARE PREPARED TO PAY SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER TAXES.

EITHER.

THE PROBLEM BEGINS WITH SUBDIVIDING THE LOTS, AND THIS COMMISSION CAN MANAGE THIS FOR THE CITY BY DENYING THIS REQUEST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

REBECCA DAVIS, FOLLOWED BY CHARLES WILLIAMS. UH, BEFORE I BEGIN, CAN I, I, MAY I APPROACH AND GIVE YOU ALL EACH A HANDOUT THAT INCLUDES PHOTOGRAPHS? YES, YOU CAN GIVE IT TO THE STAFF.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

LET ME KNOW WHEN MY TIME STARTS.

WE WILL START AFTER YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS REBECCA DAVIS.

I RESIDE AT 8 0 7 MONTANA STREET, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE.

I HIGHLY OPPOSE AND STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS ZONING CHANGE.

IT WOULD HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS.

I MOVED HERE BECAUSE I SAW THE BEAUTY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I AM A FORMER RESIDENT OF NEW ORLEANS.

I APPRECIATE OLD ARCHITECTURE.

I APPRECIATE HISTORY.

THAT'S WHY I MOVED HERE.

AND NOW WITH THIS ZONING CHANGE, THE LOT DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO MINE IS PROPOSED TO HAVE THREE MODERN TOWN HOMES.

AND I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO MY BEDROOM WINDOW, WHICH IS A PHOTOGRAPH THAT I'VE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

THAT DRIVEWAY WILL BE RIGHT NEXT TO MY BEDROOM WINDOW, RIGHT NEXT TO MY OFFICE, WHICH IS IN THE BACK OF MY HOUSE.

NOT ONCE DID THE DEVELOPER KNOCK ON MY DOOR.

NOT ONCE DID THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION COME AND WELCOME ME WHEN I MOVED THERE.

NO ONE HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS.

I ONLY NOTICED IT WHEN I CAME BACK FROM THANKSGIVING AFTER DEALING WITH MY AILING MOTHER THAT I SAW THIS NEXT DOOR IN THE YARD, AND THEN I CALLED MR. PEPE AND ASKED ABOUT IT.

THIS ZONING CHANGE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1999 FOR DENVER HEIGHTS.

THERE IS NOTHING WITHIN THAT PLAN THAT SAYS, PLEASE, LET'S DEVELOP EACH TINY LOT AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH MULTI-DWELLING UNITS NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

THIS MULTIPLE DWELLING UNIT IS GONNA AFFECT MY PIECE AND ENJOYMENT OF MY PROPERTY.

I'M GONNA HAVE A DRIVEWAY RIGHT NEXT TO MY BEDROOM WINDOW.

ALL OF THE GARAGE DOORS, THE TWO CAR GARAGE DOORS WILL BE FACING MY BEDROOM WINDOW.

ALL OF THOSE CARS WILL BE GOING IN AND OUT, AND ONE OF THOSE UNITS IS GONNA BE DIRECTLY FACING MY PROPERTY.

IT SEVERELY IMPACTS MY USE AND ENJOYMENT OF MY PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

I DON'T THINK THAT MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN GIVEN ADEQUATE NOTICE OF THIS.

THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS BEEN GIVEN ADEQUATE NOTICE OF IT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WHO MR. DUATE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH SINCE HE'S MOVED HERE.

I'M RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT IT.

I ALSO THINK THAT THE ZONING CHANGE IS, IS A SPOT ZONING, WHICH IS ILLEGAL.

IT'S UNLAWFUL.

THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF WHY WE HAVE ZONING LAWS IS TO ENSURE AN ORDER ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY, 30 SECONDS.

WITH SPOT ZONING, YOU'RE BASICALLY CONVEYING A PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TO A SMALL PLOT OF LAND, EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF CHANGED CONDITIONS.

AND, AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS BASICALLY PIECEMEAL PLANNING.

THERE HAS BEEN NO DEMONSTRATED NEED FOR THESE MULTI-FAMILY HOMES OR THESE MULTIPLE DWELLINGS.

IN FACT, TWO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES WERE BUILT ON MY PROPERTY JUST WITHIN THE LAST YEAR.

THERE'S MULTIPLE EMPTY LOTS IN DENVER HEIGHTS.

THERE'S MULTIPLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE FOR SALE.

THERE IS NO DEMONSTR DEMONSTRATED NEED FOR THIS MULTI MULTIPLE DWELLING UNIT.

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THREE MINUTES FROM LYNN KANICK KANICK.

I THINK THE APPROVED ZONING PLAN SHOULD BE RESPECTED.

I THINK THE PLAN FOR DENVER HEIGHTS SHOULD BE RESPECTED.

I THINK THE HISTORY OF DENVER HEIGHTS SHOULD BE RESPECTED.

I THINK YOU NEED TO RESPECT THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE MOVED IN TO THESE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND NOT TURN IT OVER TO DEVELOPERS WHO ARE GONNA UTTERLY CHANGE THE FABRIC OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ME, IT'S ABOUT THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I IMPLORE YOU TO CONSIDER THE EFFECTS, NOT JUST IN THE SHORT TERM, NOT JUST IN MY PEACE AND QUIET, BUT THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS IF YOU CONSIDER MAKING THESE PIECEMEAL ZONING DECISIONS THAT ARE FAVORABLE TO THE DEVELOPERS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

DIFFERENCE IN HOW WE NEED TO GET READY FOR CHANGE.

THANK YOU CHARLES WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

UH, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I'VE BEEN THERE.

I SERVED ON THIS COMMISSION ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO, AND YOU HAVE A TOUGH JOB.

SO I, NUMBER ONE, WANT TO THANK YOU.

AND THEN I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK THE CHAIR LADY FOR RECEIVING AN AWARD THE OTHER NIGHT FOR HER SERVICE ON THIS COMMISSION, AS WELL AS LONGTIME SERVICE IN THE EAST SIDE OF THE DISTRICT TOO.

MY NAME IS CHARLES E. WILLIAMS SENIOR.

I LIVE AT 45 14 CHARLES WILLIAMS PLACE.

BEEN A BUSINESS PERSON IN THE EAST SIDE FOR OVER 60 YEARS.

I HAVE WATCHED LITERALLY NO CHANGE FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, AS A BUSINESS PERSON, AS A RESIDENT, ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, I SAW THE CHANGE COMING OR THE POTENTIAL CHANGE COMING FAR.

DENVER HEIGHTS.

12 YEARS AGO, I PURCHASED PROPERTY IN DENVER HEIGHTS.

THE HOUSE THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT ON THE CORNER OF MONTANA AND PINE 7 0 1 MONTANA, CONVERTED TO A COFFEE SHOP STATE THERE FOR FIVE YEARS TO COMMUNITY.

WELCOME IT.

IT WAS CONVENIENT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AS MRS. ROSEMARY SAID A MOMENT AGO, CHANGE IS HERE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALWAYS HEARD AS A BUSINESS PERSON, AND WHEN I SERVED ON THE CITY PLANNING HIS OWN COMMISSION, WHEN I WOULD ASK DEVELOPERS, WHY DON'T YOU COME TO THE EAST SIDE AND DEVELOPED MR. WILLIAMS, YOU ALL FIGHT EVERYTHING.

AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE FIGHT FOR THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, OUT OF IGNORANCE.

JUST DOES NOT UNDERSTAND.

12 YEARS AGO WHEN I BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY, SINCE THAT TIME, I'VE OWNED FIVE DIFFERENT PIECES OF PROPERTY ON MONTANA STREET.

THE REASON TO CLEAN IT UP, MAKE IT BETTER AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE REST OF THE TOWN IS RECENTLY I'VE PURCHASED THE CHURCH ON THE CORNER OF MONTANA AND HACKBERRY A OLD HISTORICAL CHURCH THAT I'M GOING TO CONVERT TO A MUSEUM TO CAPTURE AND SHOW THE HISTORY OF THAT RICH HERITAGE OF THE EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.

AT THE TIME THAT I BROUGHT THAT PROPERTY 12 YEARS AGO, CONTRARY TO SOME OF THE THINGS BEEN SAID, ONE OF THE REASON WHY I BOUGHT IT, THERE WERE BOARDED UP HOUSES, VACANT LOTS, OVERGROWN WEEDS AND SUNFLOWERS.

NOT THAT I HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST SUNFLOWERS, BUT THEY'RE REAL UGLY WHEN THEY START DYING.

IN ADDITION TO THE GROWN UPS, LOTS ABANDONED HOUSES, BOARDED UP HOUSES THAT WERE DRUGS ALL OVER THE PLACE, UP AND DOWN MONTANA STREET FROM HACKBERRY TO MONUMENTAL AND MENTAL, AND LADIES OF THE EVENING, WALK THE STREETS ALMOST EVERY DAY.

BOLD 30 SECONDS.

I'LL TRY TO WRAP IT UP.

SINCE THAT DEVELOPMENT AND SINCE MY INVOLVEMENT, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING THERE.

VERY LITTLE DRUG ACTIVITIES.

UH, NO WALKING THE STREETS EACH, YOU KNOW.

SO I SEE THIS AS AN IMPROVEMENT AND I'M FOR IT.

AND, AND I KNOW THAT I'M RUNNING OUTTA TIME.

I WAS JUST IN BOSTON ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO AND I REALIZED HOW SMALL WE ARE.

I WENT TO THE MY DAUGHTER'S ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR AT HARVARD.

UH, I WISHED I HAD MORE TIME TO, TO REALLY EXPLAIN TO YOU THE

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WE'RE NOT ADOPTABLE CHANGE AND WE'RE FILLED.

WE ARE ONLY TWO BLOCKS FROM DOWNTOWN.

WE CANNOT REMAIN AS IT IS.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER POINTS IS, THANK YOU, SIR.

THAT WAS THREE MINUTES.

VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.

I'M, I'M, I'M FARTHER THE PROJECT.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK.

UM, THE APPLICANT.

UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? THANK YOU.

JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS TO MENTION.

THERE'S A MISTAKE IN THE SAYING THAT DENVER HEIGHTS JUST ALLOWS EIGHT HOUSES AS A DENSITY.

A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, IT CHANGED IT TO 25 UNITS PER PER ACRE.

UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING, UH, THAT THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I ASK FOR THIS, UH, 'CAUSE IT, IT IS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT CODE, CODE ALLOWS.

UH, SO AGAIN, THE ONLY PURPOSE OF ME OF BEING HERE AND TRYING TO DO THIS, AS MR. WILLIAMS WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO RECONVERT THIS AREA THAT IS SO CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS A PD, THAT IT HAD ALL THOSE VOICES AND ALL THOSE SAYINGS OF, AS MR. WILLIAMS WAS SAYING, DRUGS, CRIME AND ALL THAT.

SO THE ONLY WAY AS I SEE THAT WE CAN CHANGE THAT IS THAT BRINGING, BRINGING THIS NEW CONCEPTS, BRINGING THESE NEW IDEAS, AND YES, BRINGING MORE PLACES THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE IN INSTEAD THAN JUST HAVING VACANT LOTS ALL OVER.

YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF VACANT LOTS THAT YES, WE COULD HAVE THEM BEING USED AND WE CAN HAVE HOUSES OR, SO, YES, THAT'S WHAT THIS CITY NEEDS.

THAT'S WHAT THE, THE COMMUNITY HERE REALLY NEEDS.

NOT TO KEEP ON HAVING VACANT LOTS ALL OVER OR, YOU KNOW, HOUSES PRETTY MUCH FALLING DOWN, ALL BOARDED.

WHAT WE NEED IS PEOPLE TO FEEL PROUD OF WHERE THEY LIVE, PROUD OF WHERE THEY STAY, AND PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE THERE IN DENVER HEIGHTS.

OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER TOSEN.

UM, THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT AND THOSE FOUR AND OPPOSED, UM, I, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE AMBITION AND THE VISION TO, UH, UH, BEAUTIFY THE AREA.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA OVER THERE.

UM, MY FAVORITE BURGER SPOT'S NOT TOO FAR AWAY.

UM, AND I DO SEE THE VISION.

I ALSO HEAR THE, UH, THE CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.

UM, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE THREE HOMES ON THAT, THAT LOT.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE A LITTLE BIT OF MY, WELL, A LOT OF MY CONCERN KIND OF COMES IN, UH, WITH I'M FOR DEVELOPMENT AND I'M FOR DIVISION THAT YOU HAVE.

UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA WHERE MY CONCERN IS.

I'LL, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

UM, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE, UH, APPLICANT.

PLEASE.

CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF THE, UH, UNITS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN? HOW, WHAT IS, WHAT WOULD THE, UH, VALUE OF THESE UNITS? AS YOU MAY SEE THERE, YOU KNOW, THE THREE UNITS, ONE IS AROUND 1400 SQUARE FOOT AND THEN THE OTHER TWO ARE ABOUT 1500 SQUARE FOOT.

CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET IN DENVER HEIGHTS PER SQUARE FOOT, IT GOES FROM $190 TO $210 PER YEAR, YOU KNOW, PER SQUARE METER.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WILL BE PRETTY MUCH IN THAT SAME RANGE.

AND I'M SORRY, BE BEFORE I FORGET, YOU KNOW, UH, 'CAUSE UH, THERE WAS A SAYING ABOUT PARKING, YOU KNOW, CODE.

WHAT CODE SAYS IS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE 1.5 BA, YOU KNOW, PARKING PLACES PER UNIT.

AND THIS CASE, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M BRINGING IS TWO PARKING SPACES.

SO AS A MATTER OF FACT, ALSO A E TWO ALLOWS PARKING, YOU KNOW, ON ONSITE ON STREET, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WANT TO AVOID.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING, YOU KNOW, TWO CARS, YOU KNOW, PER PER UNIT.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO, UM, CAN WE GET CLARIFICATION AGAIN? SO HOW MANY, WITH THE CURRENT ZONING, HOW MANY UNITS ARE ALLOWED ON THIS PROPERTY? SO BY RIDING A AND E TWO, IT IS 11 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND WHEN YOU DO THE MATH, YOU GET, UM, JUST OVER 1.5 UNITS, WHICH YOU ROUND UP TO TWO.

SO HE COULD DO TWO U UNITS, UM, BY RIGHT, RIGHT NOW WITH PROPER PERMITTING IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

UM, COMMISSIONER

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TOSEN.

UM, SO, SO JUST LOOKING AT THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS, THIS CASE AND, UH, NOT REALLY, UH, WELL, HEARING FROM THE RESIDENTS FROM AROUND THE AREA, UM, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY RECEIVED THE NOTICES FOR SOME REASON.

UM, OR THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF COMMUNICATION.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WAS AREA OF JUST THE HOLIDAY SEASON.

UM, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY CONTINUE, UH, AS FOR REQUEST OF CONTINUANCE, UH, SO THAT THERE CAN BE SOME MORE DISCUSSION FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND MAYBE SOME NEGOTIATIONS ON WHAT'S BEING BUILT ON THAT LOT.

UM, SO I'M GONNA REQUEST A CONTINUANCE FOR ABOUT SIX WEEKS, UH, CONSIDERING THE HOLIDAY SEASON, UH, FEBRUARY 4TH.

UH, IF, IF THAT'S DOABLE, UM, I GUESS, UM, IT, I GUESS IT, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, RIGHT? THEY'RE ASKING CAN WE DO THAT? WELL, I MEAN, YES, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE, BUT I, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE WANTING TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF FEBRUARY 4TH IS ENOUGH TIME OR JANUARY 21ST.

BUT I MEAN, I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT FEBRUARY 4TH.

YEAH, IF I CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP, I'LL ASK HIM.

WHAT IS TRUE IS THAT THE, THE DENVER HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, THEY, WE MEET, 'CAUSE I'M A MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION, WE MEET PRETTY MUCH TWICE PER MONTH.

UH, SO IF YOU'RE AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE DENVER HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION, YOU HEAR OF ALL THESE THINGS GOING ON IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY TWICE PER MONTH.

UH, SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO BE ACTIVE, YOU HAVE TO BE THERE AND YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, TO BE PARTICIPANT IN THE PLACE.

YES, I CANNOT LIE TO YOU THAT I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE BASIS IN THOSE MEETINGS, BUT I COULD SAY EASILY SPEAKING THAT IN THIS PAST YEAR, I CAN EASILY BE THERE SEVEN TI 70% OF MY TIME.

I MEAN, THERE.

AND YOU KNOW, I SEE NEW FACES HERE TODAY THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN, YOU KNOW, IN THOSE MEETINGS WE MEET TWICE PER MONTH.

TONY G'S RESTAURANT MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO THERE AND YOU, YOU'RE GONNA FIND EVERYTHING AGAIN.

WHAT IS GOING ON, ON, ON, ON, ON, ON, ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM HISTORY.

'CAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT POWER BREAKFAST LAST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH IN, WHICH IS SO GREAT TO LISTEN AND TO HEAR EVERYTHING RELATED, NOT ONLY WHAT'S GOING ON IMMEDIATELY IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT, BUT ALL THE HISTORY BEHIND.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE, OUR SECOND MEETING IN WHICH WE PRETTY MUCH SHARE EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON.

SO YES, IF THE COMMITTEE BELIEVES THAT WE NEED MORE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE ON DOING IT.

AS A MATTER IN FACT, BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, OF THE HOLIDAYS AND ALL THAT, THE EXECUTIVE, THE EXECUTIVE, UH, COMMITTEE OF DENVER HEIGHTS IS NOT HAVING ANY MEETINGS THIS DECEMBER.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, MR. LEWIS, WHICH IS THE PRESIDENT, HE, HE ASKED ME, YOU KNOW, TO BE ON JANUARY THE 13 WITH THE COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO SHARE WITH THEM NOT ONLY THIS PROJECT BUT OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT I'M, THAT I'M WORKING ON.

SO AGAIN, I'M MORE THAN PLEASED AND WELCOME, YOU KNOW, IF WHAT WE NEED IS TIME TO DISCUSS MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO IT.

'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT COULD HELP THIS.

BUT AGAIN, I DO BELIEVE AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE MORE PARTICIPANT WITH THE DENVER HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION.

SO YOU STILL, SO IS YOUR MOTION STILL ON THE FLOOR? YEAH.

SO YOU GOT, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE, UH, THE MEETING ON DECEMBER, UH, JANUARY 15TH.

IS THAT CORRECT? JANUARY 15TH IS THE REGULAR, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS, UH, MEETING.

BUT THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF DENVER HEIGHTS IS ABOUT TO MEET ON JANUARY THE 13TH.

UH, YOU KNOW, YES, MR. LEWIS HAS TO CONFIRM THAT DATE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE DATES.

'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ALL MEMBERS, WE DO HAVE THIS TWO MEETINGS PER MONTH.

AND THEN THE EXECUTIVE, UH, COMMITTEE OF, UH, DENVER HEIGHTS, THEY MEET ONCE PER MONTH AGAIN.

SO, AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THREE MEETINGS, UH, THROUGHOUT EVERY MONTH, YOU KNOW.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I APPRECIATE, UH, THE INFORMATION.

I'M GONNA MOTION, UH, FOR CONTINUANCE OF, UH, FOUR WEEKS.

JANUARY 24.

UH, JUNE 21ST, UH, ZONING, COMMISSION MEETING SECOND.

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UM, THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

UH, COM.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO, I HAD A CLARIFICATION.

DID, DID THE DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ALREADY VOTE TO OPPOSE THIS? GOT THEIR STATEMENT? I HAVE THEIR STATEMENT AND THEY'RE, THEY VOTED OR THEY REQUESTED TO ME TO, UH, CONTINUE THE CASE, BUT IT'S, YEAH, THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T END UP, YOU KNOW, VOTING FOR OR AGAINST.

THEY, THEY WANTED ME TO REQUEST PER EMAIL BY, UH, AUBREY LEWIS.

SORRY.

I'M YOU.

I NEED TO MR. WILLIAMS. I NEED ASK MICHAEL.

I DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST PART.

IF YOU SAID WHAT YOU SAID THEY WANTED YOU TO DO A REQUEST A CONTINUANCE.

I MEAN, I'M JUST NOT SEEING THIS AS A CONTINUANCE SORT OF CASE.

THAT'S THE KIND OF CASE WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.

WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

I THINK THEIR QUESTIONS WERE MORE ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.

UM, I'D, I'D BE PREPARED TO JUST VOTE NO ON THIS RIGHT NOW.

'CAUSE THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR AS, AS ENTHUSIASTIC AS YOU ARE ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

UM, BUT I GUESS SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL POSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I'LL SUPPORT THE CONTINUANCE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? UM, I'LL JUST SAY, UM, I AM A BIG NEIGHBORHOOD PERSON, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT, BUT SOMETIMES NOT EVERYBODY COMES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.

SO ALSO, UM, OUR NEIGHBORS, UM, YOU TWO, YOU KNOW, THAT SURROUND US ARE, UM, GOOD TO REACH OUT TO THEM.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT PROBABLY AN EXTRA REACH OUT SINCE YOU GOT THE, WE'LL SEE.

YOU MIGHT END UP WITH EXTRA TIME TO DO THAT.

COMMISSIONERS, LORI AND TENNIS PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

GOOD AFTERNOON

[14. 19-9009 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700302 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-3NA AHOD" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District on 0.71 acres out of NCB 10939, located at 1003 Avondale Avenue. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2019-11600091) (Lorianne Thennes, Planner (210) 207-7945, lorianne.thennes, Development Services Department)]

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 14 LOCATED AT 1003 AVONDALE.

AND IT'S A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM C TWO TO C THREE.

NA 20 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR.

EIGHT WERE RETURNED IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE ZONING REQUEST IS FOR THE MOST INTENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND MANY INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES WOULD BE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ACROSS FROM A SCHOOL AND NEXT TO A DAYCARE.

UH, AND THE EXISTING C TWO IS APPROPRIATE.

THE APPLICANT CAN ACCOMPLISH THE PROPOSED RETAIL CENTER AND, UH, GET A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO REPAIR IN THE CURRENT ZONING.

UM, AND THIS WOULD ALSO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

WHEN SHE DOESN'T EVEN RESPECT THE CURRENT ZONING BECAUSE SHE IS, HAS THREE VIOLATIONS CURRENTLY THAT WE'RE GONNA SEND TO CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT HER PROPERTY.

MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? HI, MY NAME MARK GRANES.

FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, I'VE SPENT CONSIDERABLE TIME, EFFORT, MONEY INVESTING IN REDEVELOPING PROPERTIES ALONG CORRIDORS LIKE GOLIAD, ZZA, K BANDERA, FREDERICKSBURG MILITARY DRIVE.

WE HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN DEALING WITH PROPERTIES LIKE THESE.

I'VE EXTENSIVE INVESTMENTS IN SOUTHEAST SAN ANTONIO, OR LAST 20 YEARS I'VE INVESTED OVER $200 MILLION DEVELOPING FOUR SHOPPING CENTERS AT BROOKS CITY BASE.

I PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH SAN SAN ANTONIO.

ANYBODY AROUND, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR EXISTING ZONING, UH, WE'RE SURROUNDED BY C TWO USES, UH, ONLY ONE PROPERTY OF BUTS, OUR PROPERTY THAT IS R FOUR.

AND, UH, THAT LADY, UM, CAME OUT IN OPPOSITION AND SENT A NOTE THAT SHE CAME OUT IN OPPOSITION TO OUR USE

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AND THOSE BEING THAT SHE HAS AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

SHE HAS A LIGHT THAT SHEDS LIGHT ONTO MY PROPERTY THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

AND SHE'S USING THE PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE STORAGE, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COMPLAIN THAT I'M A BAD PERSON, THEY SHOULD BE.

DO YOU HAVE THAT? UM, THEY SHOULD WORRY ABOUT THEIR OWN PROPERTY AT FIRST.

IF YOU LOOK AT GDD ROAD, IT IS THE ONE CORRIDOR IN SAN ANTONIO THAT OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS HAS SEEN NO NEW DEVELOPMENT.

IF YOU WANNA, SO THIS IS THE LADY THAT HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT US RIGHT NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY.

SHE HAS AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE THAT ABUTS MY PROPERTY.

SHE HAS A LIGHT THAT CASTS LIGHT DOWN ONTO MY PROPERTY IN VIOLATION OF CODE.

AND THEY'RE USING IT FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE STORAGE, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED IN R FOUR.

SO EITHER WE CAN ALL FOLLOW THE RULES OR NONE OF US FOLLOW THE RULES.

CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

SO IF YOU WANNA SHOW THEM THE CORRIDOR OF GOAD, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME Y'ALL SPEND OVER THERE, BUT GOAD LOOKS LIKE IT DID 30, 40 YEARS AGO.

BURNED OUT BUILDINGS.

THE NEXT ONE, THIS IS AN ALL CAR WASH AND KEEP GOING.

BUILDINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.

BUILDINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, METAL BUILDINGS, BUILDINGS WITH NO LANDSCAPING, NO SIDEWALKS, EMPTY BUILDINGS.

AND THEN THIS IS WHAT WE PROPOSE TO DO ON THE FRONT PROPERTY PROPERTY, WHICH BY RIGHT, WE CAN DO WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

THE PLAN HAD ALWAYS BEEN TO BUILD A STRIP CENTER.

WE HAVE THREE TENANTS, ALL SMALL HISPANIC BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN WANTING TO GO HERE FOR OVER A YEAR.

IT'LL BE THE FIRST NEW BUSINESSES ALONG GOLIAD IN YEARS.

THIS PARTIAL RIGHT HERE.

WE CURRENTLY BUY, RIGHT? CAN DO A VEHICLE MAINTENANCE STORAGE FACILITY.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

WE PREFER TO BUILD A CAR WASH HERE TO BRING THE ENOUGH TRAFFIC THROUGH TO MAKE THE FRONT BUILDING JUSTIFIED IN TERMS OF THE TENANT NEEDS.

SO WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS.

WE CAN DO NOTHING WITH THE PROPERTY.

AND IT SENDS THAT SAME MESSAGE THAT YOU CAN'T DEVELOP ON GOALIE AD THAT GOALIE RAT ROAD DOESN'T WANT DEVELOPMENT.

THEY DON'T WANT NEW TENANTS, THEY DON'T WANT JOBS, THEY DON'T WANT INCREASED TAX BASE.

YOU KNOW, JUST ABANDON IT, FORGET ABOUT IT.

OKAY? OR WE CAN DO A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE HAVE OUR CAR WASH IN THE BACK, OUR STRIP CENTER IN THE FRONT.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN OTHER OUR CAR WASHES THAT ABUT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

AND WE'VE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT FROM ANYBODY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LOT ABOUT NOTHING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

WE WANNA INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MONEY FROM THE CITY.

I'VE COULDN'T ANSWER THIS PRIVATELY.

IT'S MY MONEY.

OKAY? WE DON'T ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, VARIANCES.

WE'RE GONNA PUT IN SIDEWALKS, WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING.

WE'RE GONNA PUT IN LANDSCAPING, PARKING LOT, SHADING, EVERYTHING BY CODE.

IF WE CAN'T DO THE CAR WASH, THEN IT MAKES NO SENSE TO BUILD A STRIP CENTER.

THEN I'M FORCED TO BRING ALL THE TRAFFIC ONTO AVONDALE TO SERVE THE SERVICE CENTER.

AND WE HAVE A FLEET OF ABOUT 25 VEHICLES FOR OUR OPERATING COMPANIES THAT AT NIGHT NEED TO BE SERVICED, MAINTAINED STOCK SO THEY CAN MAKE THE RUNS NEXT MORNING.

THAT HAPPENS AT NIGHT.

WE CURRENTLY DO IT OVER ON FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.

SO RATHER THAN JUST HAVE THE PROPERTY SECRET DOING NOTHING, WE WILL PULL, PUT THAT FACILITY HERE AND NO ONE'S GONNA LIKE IT.

IT'S GONNA BE A BIG METAL BUILDING.

IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK PRETTY.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE WORKING AT TWO IN THE MORNING.

DOGS, BARKING LIGHTS, SECURITY, AND THE PROPERTY NEXT TO US.

THIS IS ZONE C TWO.

THAT ZONE C TWO, THIS IS ACTUALLY R FOUR USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.

OKAY? SO THERE'S ONLY ONE PROPERTY THAT ABUTS US AND WITHOUT THIS, THE TRAFFIC HAS TO GO ON TO AVONDALE TO GO TO GO AD.

SO OUR SOLUTION IS LET'S DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

LET'S BRING PRIVATE INVESTMENT TO THE EAST SIDE.

UH, WE RECENTLY REHABBED A BUILDING AT PORTER AND NEW BRAUNFELS IN EAST SAN ANTONIO THAT THE COMMUNITY LOVES.

UH, WE TOOK ALL CAR LOTS ON COLLIBRA ROAD, MADE THEM BRAND NEW STRIP CENTERS THAT HAVE BEEN A HUNDRED PERCENT LEASED FOR FIVE YEARS.

UH, COLLIBRAS ARE MORE COLLERAN 23RD.

WE TOOK AN OLD, UH, CAR WASH AT ELMENDORF AND COLLIBRA AND TURNED INTO A BIG NEW DENTAL CLINIC.

WE, LIKE I SAID, CITY BASE EXISTS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE DID, THE RISK WE TOOK BANDERA, WOODLAWN,

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VANCE JACKSON, AND I 10 CENTRAL PARK MALL, WE REDEVELOP.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

WE STAY INSIDE FOUR 10.

WE HAVE TO, BECAUSE WHEN WE GO OUTSIDE FOUR 10, WE LOSE ALL OUR MONEY.

SO WE WANT TO DO MORE OF THIS.

BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.

YOU CAN'T HAVE THE STRIP CENTER AND THE NEW JOBS AND THE INVESTMENT WITHOUT THE DRIVER IN THE BACK TO BRING THE TRAFFIC THROUGH.

SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO HERE IS WE WERE GONNA TRY AND DO A NEW TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT EXCEEDED THE 25 FOOT HEIGHT.

WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE OLD TYPE OF EQUIPMENT.

SO IT'LL BE A STEADY, DARK CAR WASH, A STRIP CENTER, UM, SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPING, EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED.

OR WE CAN HAVE AN EMPTY LOT IN THE FRONT AND A DUMPY METAL BUILDING IN THE BACK WITH CARS GETTING WORKED ON IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

SO I'LL, I'LL DO WHATEVER Y'ALL TELL ME TO DO.

UM, WE'LL PROBABLY BE CALLING YOU UP FOR A QUESTION, SO IF YOU'LL STAY NEARBY.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK RAQUEL BOREGO? I DO HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE I START.

I THOUGHT THE, UH, THE ZONING REQ OR REQUEST WAS TO CHANGE IT TO, FOR AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP, NOT A CAR WASH, UH, STAFF.

I THOUGHT, UH, WHEN I INQUIRED TO THE APPLICANT, HE TOLD ME THAT IT WOULD BE A SHOPPING CENTER AND AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR FACILITY WITH NON RESTRICTIVE HOURS OF OPERATION.

THERE WAS NO MENTION OF A CAR WASH TO ME SPECIFICALLY.

UH, MAYBE AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE REQUESTED ZONING OF C THREE WOULD PERMIT BOTH BY RIGHT.

UM, BUT THE APPLICANT IS STATING IT'S A CAR WASH, SO, RIGHT.

HER QUESTION? YES.

THAT'S GOOD.

JUST OKAY.

OH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TURNED DOWN FROM THE CAR WASH.

WE SPENT A YEAR TRYING TO FIND ANO ANOTHER USE.

THE ONLY THING WE WOULD FIND WAS TO MOVE OUR SERVICE CENTER THERE.

THE SERVICE CENTER WOULD REQUIRE A BUILDING ABOVE THE 25 FOOT HEIGHT, BECAUSE SOME THINGS WE DO IN IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT STARTED IT.

BUT I LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WHY JUST BUILD A SERVICE CENTER, IT LEAVES THE FRONT OF THE LOT EMPTY.

I PAID FOR THE WHOLE LOT.

SO WE WENT BACK TO THE PLAN WITH, UH, THE SHOPPING CENTER IN FRONT AND WENT BACK TO THE CAR WASH IN THE BACK AND WE LOWERED THE EQUIPMENT HEIGHT TO GET IT UNDER THE 25 FOOT HEIGHT.

SO THE ONLY REASON WE'RE NOT DOING C TWO SPECIAL USE.

'CAUSE UNDER SPECIAL USE, YOU CAN DICTATE HOURS TO ME YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR A CAR.

THE REASON IS FOR THE USE IS FOR A CAR WASH.

WE, WE WANT C C THREE N A.

AND ONE OF THE USES WE CAN DO IS A CAR WASH.

WHEN THIS OKAY, IT'S NOT OUR TIME FOR QUESTIONS.

PEOPLE TO VACUUM THEIR CARS, WHICH WOULD, UH, SIT RIGHT NEXT TO MY PARENTS' HOUSE.

MY NAME'S RAQUEL BOREGO AND I'M A PROPERTY OWNER AT 9 46 AVONDALE.

UM, THE HOUSE THAT ABUTS HIS PROPERTY IS MY PARENTS' HOME.

I GREW UP THERE, UH, BORN AND RAISED, BOUGHT THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, MR. GRANADOS IS RIGHT.

LAST YEAR WE FOUGHT TO KEEP HIS CAR WASH OFF THE PROPERTY.

WE PREVAILED.

UM, ONE THING THAT WAS KIND OF BROUGHT UP TO ME A FEW TIMES BY, BY PEOPLE WORKING ON THE PROJECT, THE PROJECT WAS THAT IF I DON'T LET HIM BUILD I THAT FIRST, THAT I SHOULD BACK OFF.

BECAUSE IF I DON'T LET HIM BUILD HIS CAR WASH, HE WOULD BUILD SOMETHING WORSE.

UM, APPARENTLY HE HAS A REPUTATION FOR THAT.

IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE HANDOUT THAT I GAVE YOU, THERE'S TWO ARTICLES THAT CITES MANY OF HIS QUOTES.

UM, THREATENING QUOTES, UH, USES WORDS LIKE DESTROY WHEN HE REFERS TO NEIGHBORHOODS IF HE DOESN'T, UH, USING ANOTHER ONE OF HIS COATS IF YOU DON'T LET ME HAVE WHAT I WANT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

UM, HAVING AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP OR A CAR WASH.

WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED ALL THOSE SITUATIONS AND, AND MADE THE POINTS WHY WE DON'T WANT THAT THERE.

THIS IS KIND OF CONFUSING AND I'M NOT SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S FAIR THAT HE, HE COMES IN AND IS PROPOSING THAT VERY CAR WASH.

UH, ONE ANOTHER POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE IS, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION GIVEN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LAST TIME WHEN I GOT INVOLVED, I WENT TO A MEETING THAT WAS THERE ON SITE.

UM, SHE, UH, WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AT THE TIME, SHE WASN'T AWARE OF MANY OF THE ASPECTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR OF THE CAR WASH.

FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS GONNA BE A 24 HOUR A DAY, SEVEN DAY A WEEK CAR WASH.

UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW

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IT ALSO SITS BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND A DAYCARE CENTER.

UM, JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF, UH, UH, EXCUSE ME, , BUT ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I WAS GONNA MAKE WAS THAT WHILE WE WERE THERE, THEY WERE TOTTING HOW WELL THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTIES.

UM, THEY WANTED US TO GO AND CHECK THEM OUT.

THEY KEEP THEM CLEAN, THEY KEEP THEM MONITORED.

YET AT THAT VERY MOMENT, WE GOT KICKED OFF OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE A, UM, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO EMPLOYEE WAS THERE MOWING THE LAWN BECAUSE HE, UH, FAILED TO COMPLY WITH A CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUE.

UM, THAT KIND OF ALL STARTED WHEN A NEARBY BUSINESS OWNER REQUESTED HE TAKE CARE OF THAT HE GOT ANGRY WITH HER.

SO HE'S NOT RESPECTFUL TO OUR 30 SECONDS TO, TO THE, TO US, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT MR. GRANADOS HAS THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN HIS IN MIND.

I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, HE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO, UH, HAVE SPECIAL USE OR CHANGE THE ZONING FOR THAT, UH, PROPERTY.

I MEAN, WE ARE SURROUNDED BY C TWO AND WE, WE'VE LIVED THERE.

THAT'S BEEN THE CASE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER.

I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S, IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE SPECIAL USE IN THAT PROPERTY.

I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH THAT CAN BE DONE.

I AM FOR DEVELOPMENT.

I, I APPRECIATE DEVELOPMENT AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S NOT TRUE THAT GOLIAD HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED.

THE SCHOOL WAS JUST BUILT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A FEW YEARS AGO AS WELL AS THE DAYCARE CENTER.

GLORIA BOREGO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GONNA STAND UP HERE WITH MY MOTHER.

SHE'S VERY NERVOUS.

HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS GLORIA BOREGO.

WE'VE BEEN LIVING AT THAT PROPERTY FOR 45 YEARS.

WE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY FROM THE CHURCH.

THERE WAS A CHURCH IN THE CORNER WHERE THE DAYCARE IS, AND MY HUSBAND ASKED HIM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR EXTRA PROPERTY TO PARK MY TRUCK.

AND HE SAYS, OH SURE.

AND HE SOLD US THAT EXTRA PROPERTY.

AND HE SAID, AS LONG AS YOU BUILD A A, A TALL FENCE, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S THERE.

AND THE LIGHT, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 45 YEARS, NOBODY'S EVER COMPLAINED.

AND THEY WANNA BUILD SOMETHING THAT MAKES A LOT OF NOISE.

EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANNA BUILD THERE IS AWFUL WHERE THEY WON'T LET ME SLEEP.

MY WINDOWS ARE, MY, MY BEDROOM WINDOWS ARE TOWARDS THAT PLACE.

THAT'S HORRIBLE.

THEY CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THEY PICK THE WORST THINGS.

CAR WASH, NOT MECHANIC SHOP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S QUIET.

EVERYBODY'S QUIET AND THEY WANNA GO TAKE A LOT OF NOISE.

AND I'M TIRED OF THIS NONSENSE THAT HE WANTS TO BUILD THERE.

WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 45 YEARS.

NOBODY EVER COMPLAINED UNTIL HE CAME ALONG.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, THAT I DON'T APPROVE OF THAT.

THANK YOU BILLY ZIMMERMAN.

OR WASH.

ARE YOU OKAY? START WITH YOUR NAME.

HEY, MY NAME IS BILLY ZIMMERMAN.

I'M A LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROKER AND MY COMPANY OWNS 9 3 3 9 3 5

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AVONDALE, WHICH IS HOWEVER YOU MAKE THIS WORK.

THE LAST ONE ON THE END.

THAT ONE.

NOW I WANNA JUST ACQUAINT YOU ALL WITH WHAT'S AROUND THIS PROPERTY.

FIRST OF ALL, FACING AVONDALE, THERE'S RENTAL PROPERTIES ALL ALONG HERE.

AND THEN MRS. BORREGO, AND RIGHT HERE, THERE'S A CHURCH SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S BEEN CONVERTED TO AN INSURANCE COMPANY AND A DAYCARE.

SO RIGHT HERE ON THIS LOT, THERE IS A DAYCARE, AND THE FENCE FOR THE PLAYGROUND IS ALL AROUND HERE.

SO THAT MEANS THAT THIS ENTRY HERE THAT HE WANTS TO USE IS RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FENCE WHERE THE LITTLE CHILDREN PLAY.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S SAFE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE BEHIND THAT.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THIS IS ALL VACANT, AND THAT'S PROBABLY HIS LAND.

AND THIS IS VACANT COMING DOWN HERE, BUT DOWN AT THIS END WHERE CLARK AVENUE IS BACK OVER HERE, ANOTHER THROUGH STREET, THERE IS A, A BUILDING THAT THE, UH, FIREMAN'S UNION BUILT THAT CLOSES THAT OFF.

SO THERE CAN BE NO ENTRIES AT THAT END.

NOW THE OTHER THING THAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT RIGHT HERE, THIS LOOKS LIKE A STREET.

IT WAS PLOTTED AS A STREET, BUT STREET WAS NEVER OPENED.

IT'S NOT OPEN TO THIS DAY.

AND MY, MY INFORMATION IS THAT THIS, THIS PROPERTY HERE IS WHERE THE ACADEMY IS THE SCHOOL, AND IT USES THIS LAND.

MAYBE IT'S ABOUT IT, I DON'T KNOW, FOR AN ATHLETIC FIELD, SOME OF THIS LAND BACK HERE, OKAY? SO YOU HAVE CHILDREN AT THE SCHOOL AND YOU HAVE CHILDREN AT THE DAYCARE, AND THEN YOU HAVE PRIVATE RESIDENCES HERE AND ACROSS THE STREET.

NOW MY OBSERVATION IS THAT THESE PEOPLE OVER HERE OWN THEIR PROPERTIES, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SO MANY OF 'EM AGAINST IT.

BUT THESE ARE NOT, THESE PEOPLE ARE TENANTS AND A LOT OF 'EM DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS IS GOING ON.

THEY WOULD NOT LIKE IT.

SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO 30 SECONDS.

THIS IS, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY THAT I OWN AND TAKE CARE OF, AND IT BACKS UP TO THE, THE LINE, UH, AGAINST HIS PROPERTY.

AND, AND I'M NOT INTERESTED, AND MY TENANTS DON'T WANNA HAVE TO LIVE WITH ALL THIS NOISY STUFF GOING IN, IN AND OUT.

THAT LAND BACK THERE WOULD BE IDEAL TO DEVELOP FOR APARTMENTS OR SOME OTHER KIND OF, UM, RESIDENTIAL USE.

THAT'S THREE MINUTES, MA'AM.

I'LL LEAVE IT WITH YOU.

THE PROPERTY'S ALREADY ZONED COMMERCIAL.

THAT'S ALL THAT SAN IN TO SPEAK, UM, WITH THE APPLICANT, LIKE TIME TO RESPOND, GREG WAS ATTACKING MY CHARACTER.

SHE MIGHT WANT TO CALL THE ARCHDIOCESE AND ASK THEM HOW ST.

GERARD'S ON THE EAST SIDE IS STILL OPEN FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS BECAUSE OF MY FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS AND GIFTS TO 'EM, I DID ON MY OWN.

SHE MIGHT WANT TO CALL TOM MINGLER AT ST.

MARY'S AND ASK HIM HOW MANY KIDS I PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR.

SHE MIGHT WANT TO CALL TIM PETERSON AND ANTONIO AND ASK HIM HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS I PROVIDE FOR PEOPLE THERE.

OR SHE MIGHT WANNA GO TO DISTRICT ONE AND ADEL AND ASK THE PEOPLE ABOUT THE VIRGINIA MARIE GRANADAS PARK AND GRANADA SENIOR CENTERS THAT I DONATED.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA TRASH ME.

GO AHEAD.

BUT YOU MIGHT WANNA GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT FIRST.

SO WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE.

MS. ZIMMERMAN SAYS SHE DOESN'T WANT COMMERCIAL.

I I MEAN, WHETHER SHE LIKES IT OR NOT, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO AVONDALE BY RIGHT THROUGH THE EXISTING ZONING.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING NEW.

MS. BORREGO DOESN'T EVEN WANNA MAINTAIN HER PROPERTY IN ACCORD WITH, WITH THE ZONING.

SHE HAS THREE CODE VIOLATIONS THAT SHE ADMITS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.

SO I'M THE BAD GUY.

I'M THE ONE TRYING TO BRING JOBS TO THE COMMUNITY.

I'M TRYING TO BRING INVESTMENT.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR THE CITY TO DO ANYTHING.

SHOOT.

I'M BUILDING SIDEWALKS WHERE THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.

I'M DOING LANDSCAPING WHERE THERE'S NO LANDSCAPING.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING ON CLARK.

YOU HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING ON CLARK AVENUE.

YOU KNOW, GOLAN HAS NOT SEEN ANYTHING NEW IN 20 YEARS.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

GO DOWN BANDERA, GO DOWN COLLIBRA, GO DOWN FREDERICKSBURG, GO DOWN ZARA, ZAMORA, WE BUILD PROPERTIES THAT CREATE MORE ENERGY.

YOU GO DOWN ANY OF THOSE STREETS AND YOU'LL SEE THE THINGS WE DO RIGHT NEXT TO

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'EM.

AND YOU SEE PEOPLE DOING NEW THINGS.

SO, YOU KNOW, GOALIE AD IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER STREET.

IT SHOULD BE MUCH MORE INVIGORATED IF YOU HAVE MORE ACTIVITY.

IT'S BEEN IGNORED THE LAST 20 YEARS, AND WE'RE THE FOOL TRYING TO COME OVER AND DO SOMETHING.

SO, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THE SHOPPING CENTER, WE NEED THE TRAFFIC OR THE CAR WASH.

YOU KNOW, WE DO MAYBE 10 WASHES A NIGHT FROM 10 TO SIX.

WE PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WORK TILL MIDNIGHT.

OKAY? WE HAVE CONTRACTS WITH AGENCIES THAT THEIR TRANSPORTATION IS AT NIGHT.

IT ALSO MEANS IT'S WELL LIT, WHICH MEANS SECURE VERSUS BEING DARK.

BUT WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT, SOMEONE'S GONNA BE VACUUMING A CAR, STOCKING A TRUCK BACK THERE AT TWO IN THE MORNING.

THE CAR WASH IS A LOT BETTER WITH THE CAR WASH.

YOU GET THE STRIP CENTER.

WE HAVE THREE SMALL HISPANIC BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO OPEN ON GOLDIE AD ROAD.

I'M THE ONLY GUY WILLING TO GO BUILD FOR 'EM.

SO WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY, START SHOWING SOMETHING, SHOWING INVESTMENT, SHOWING IT CAN WORK.

OR WE CAN LEAVE A BUNCH OF VACANT LAND IN THE FRONT AND HAVE A METAL IN THE BUILDING IN THE BACK.

BUT YOU'RE STILL GONNA EXIT ONTO AVONDALE.

I, I HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.

THE ONLY THING I'M HERE FOR IS I DON'T WANNA BUILD A METAL BUILDING.

I'D RATHER BUILD A CAR WASH.

AND YOU GO TO ANY ONE OF OUR CAR WASHES, THEY'RE WELL MAINTAINED, THEY'RE CLEAN.

UH, WE DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO LOITER.

WE CATCH PEOPLE IN THE BAYS HANGING OUT.

WE RUN 'EM OFF.

WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH POLICE OFFICER.

I'M SEVERAL POLICE OFFICER THAT ARE RETIRED, THAT ARE PARTNERS WITH ME IN DEALS, AND THEY MAKE A POINT OF MAKING SURE THEY GO BY OUR PROPERTY.

SO YOU LOOK AT CITY BASE, THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

THAT'S THE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.

GET YOU LOOK AT CENTRAL PARK MALLS, SEE WHAT WE DID.

YOU LOOK AT, UH, DELVY MARKETPLACE, VANCE JACKSON AND I 10.

THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

YOU LOOK AT UP AND DOWN THE DECO DISTRICT IN FREDERICKSBURG, LOOK AT THE JOE'S GYM BUILDING.

WE'RE SPENDING A FORTUNE ON RIGHT NOW TO RENOVATE.

OKAY? YOU LOOK AT THE DECO PIZZA BUILDING, WE TORE DOWN THE TRAVIS MOTEL ON FREDERICKSBURG ROAD TO DO A CHICK-FIL-A.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE GUYS GOING WHERE NOBODY ELSE GOES.

UH, FAT SOS BARBECUE, UH, BANDERA AND SUNSHINE, BUT A NEW PROJECT THERE.

UH, THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

WE DO A QUALITY PROJECT.

WE BRING QUALITY RETAILERS TO NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IF WE DO ONE, WE'LL DO ANOTHER ONE.

THE ONLY ISSUE HERE IS WHETHER IT'S A CAR WASHER OR A METAL BUILDING IN THE BACK WHERE I SERVICE MY CARS IN THE EVENING.

QUESTIONS.

WE'LL, WE'LL CALL YOU IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UM, SO THIS, UH, PROPERTY HAS COME BEFORE US IN THE PAST.

CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT CASE? SO THE APPLICANT PREVIOUSLY APPLIED FOR A REZONING OF THE PROPERTY TO C TWO SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION TO ALLOW FOR CAR WASH.

UM, AND THAT WAS DENIED AT ZONING COMMISSION IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR.

COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YEAH.

ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UM, SO I'M LOOKING, UM, AT THE G I S MAP HERE, AND I SEE THAT THERE'S A, I THINK THAT I'M ON THE RIGHT SPOT.

THERE'S A PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT'S BEEN FILED THAT APPEARS TO COVER, UM, NOT ONLY THIS PROPERTY, BUT A PROPERTY THAT FRONTS ON GOLIAD.

SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? ALL OF THAT IS ACTUALLY HIS PROPERTY.

HE'S JUST REQUESTING A REZONING ON THE OUTLINED PORTION YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN.

SO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY'S ABOUT AN ACRE AND A HALF.

HE'S ONLY ASKING FOR 0.71 ACRES TO BE REZONED.

AND IT'S THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S ON THE AVONDALE SIDE, NOT ON THE GOLIAD ROAD SIDE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

UM, ACTIVITY FOR THE CAR WASH AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS.

UM, I BELIEVE THIS IS PRETTY MUCH LIKE THE LAST CASE THAT CAME BEFORE US BEFORE.

UM, WHILE I DO CELEBRATE AND APPRECIATE, UM, THE APPLICANT'S INVESTMENT ALL OVER, UH, SAN ANTONIO, THIS CASE, I BELIEVE, UM, HERE ON AVONDALE, UM, WOULD BE, UH, TOO INTENSE.

UM, AND I DON'T REALLY SEE THE ABILITY TO CONTROL NOISE AND ACTIVITY, UM, FOR LATE, THE LATE NIGHT,

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SO I, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO GO WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, ON A MOTION FOR, UH, DENIAL WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

YEAH, MR. GRANADOS, THIS, THIS ONE IS, UM, IS HARD FOR ME, UH, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU SAID UP HERE TODAY, UM, I ACTUALLY, UM, BELIEVE IN, UM, DEVELOPMENT, CREATING JOBS, UM, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS THAT AREN'T DEVELOPED NOW I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF.

UM, BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM HERE, UH, WAS THE WAY, UH, THAT THIS WAS HANDLED FROM, FROM, FROM THE BEGINNING.

AND, UM, I THINK EARLIER TODAY WE SAW A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE, UM, AND IN ONE OF OUR EARLY CASES OF, OF A DEVELOPER DOING, DOING THINGS RIGHT AND HOW THEY DEALT WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S SORT OF WHAT LED TO A SUCCESSFUL RESULT THERE.

AND HERE, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE HASN'T BEEN THE COMMUNICATION, UM, WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE, LIKE TO ME, MUCH ATTEMPT AT AT NEGOTIATION OR, OR REALLY ANY EFFORTS TO ALLAY ANY OF THEIR CONCERNS.

UM, SO, UM, I THINK FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION FOR DENIAL.

UH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY, ANY, UH, COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.

I ALSO APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT YOU'VE MADE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU'VE DONE, BUT WE'VE HEARD THIS CASE PREVIOUSLY, AND I DON'T FIND THAT A CAR WASH BEHIND THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS SUITABLE FOR THAT.

UM, I, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN, UH, COME UP WITH OUT THERE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THAT MIGHT BE.

COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, UM, I ECHO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S, UM, COMMENTS ON THIS.

UM, THE THING FOR ME THAT REALLY, UM, KIND OF CEMENTS MY SUPPORT FOR THE MOTION IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE, THE REQUEST WOULD BE TO INTENSIFY THE COMMERCIAL, UM, ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN TOWARDS THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ON GOLIAD, THEREBY INCREASING THE TRAFFIC, THE NOISE, THE OTHER ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE FAMILIES AND THE OTHER RESIDENTS.

I THINK I WOULD, I WOULD SEE MORE OF AN, I WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO SUPPORT IT IF IT WAS FRONTING ON GOLIAD WITH AN INTENT TO CONCENTRATE THE MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I TRY TO LOOK FOR AND, AND TRY TO TALK TO THE DEVELOPERS THAT I'M WORKING WITH IN MY DISTRICT TO TRY TO REDUCE THE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.

AND THIS ONE, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, WE WOULD BE INCREASING THE ADVERSE IMPACTS, SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

AVI, SENIOR PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

GOOD

[15. 19-9161 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700305 (Council District 8): A request for a change in zoning from "C-1" Light Commercial District, "C-2" Commercial District, "C-2 NA" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales District, "C-2 NA CD" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales District with Conditional Use for an Auto Body Repair and Paint Center, "C-3 NA" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales District to "MF-25" Low Density Multi-Family District on 9.708 acres out of NCB 16109 and NCB 16455 and 0.231 acres out of NCB 16455, located at 6460 Babcock Road. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Plan Amendment Case PA-2019-11600089) (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]

AFTERNOON, MARCO.

ITEM NUMBER 15 IS ON 64 60 BABCOCK ROAD.

35.

NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

ZERO IN FAVOR.

ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM THE TANGLEWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, BEFORE CALL THE APPLICANT, I JUST WANT TO, UH, MAKE NOTE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS, UH, RECUSING HERSELF AND SHE, UM, WE WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM,

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RIGHT? WE CAN.

OKAY, GOOD.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

BUT IF ANYBODY'S GONNA STEP OUT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RECESS.

PERIMETER FENCING, FITNESS CENTER, PLAYGROUND.

CAN Y'ALL HOLD ON FOR A FEW MINUTES PLEASE? ALSO, UM, THE VO AND, AND WITH THIS NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS THAT WE HAVE PRESENT, UM, THE VOTE WOULD HAVE TO BE UNANIMOUS IN ORDER TO PASS, RIGHT? YEAH, YOU CAN COME ON UP.

OTHER JAMES? NO OTHER JAMES .

I CAN'T WIN NO HOLIDAY SPIRIT HERE.

I'M A I'M ALL MESSED UP.

THE BETTER LOOKING JAMES.

WE CAN GO WITH THAT.

UM, .

UM, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

JAMES MCKNIGHT, 1 1 2 EAST PEON REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.

THAT'S PAID CORE INVESTMENTS.

AND YEAH, I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH THE PROPERTY.

I MEAN, UH, MECO ALREADY PRESENTED SOME OF THE FACTS.

I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

THIS IS A, A LARGER MAP OF, UM, THE PROPERTY IS RIGHT HERE WHERE THE, THE.IS.

AND THAT'S JUST SO YOU CAN SEE A LARGER AREA DOWN BABCOCK.

YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT SURROUND US AND SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL THAT THAT IS UP AND DOWN BABCOCK ZOOM OF THE SITE.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT IN RELATION TO THE SCHOOL.

AND, UM, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING IN RIGHT NEXT TO IT HERE IS A ZONING MAP.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S UP AND DOWN BADCOCK, BUT ALSO THE MF 33 ON THE EAST SIDE, SOME ON THE WEST SIDE.

THERE'S JUST SOUTH OF US AND NORTH OF SPRINGTIME DRIVE.

THIS IS THE CURRENT PLAN FOR SUBURBAN TIER FOR OUR PROPERTY.

AND YOU CAN SEE UP HERE, GENERAL URBAN TIER IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE NEEDING TO REQUEST FOR THE SITE.

UH, THAT'S GOING TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN JANUARY.

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE.

SO OUR REQUEST TODAY IS FOR, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED C TWO C ONE, SOME C THREE AND C TWO CD FOR AUTO REPAIR.

OUR REQUEST IS FOR MF 25 FOR 10 ACRES.

AND ALTHOUGH THAT WOULD INCLUDE 250 UNITS, UM, IN THEORY, WE ARE REQUESTING THE MF 25 BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING 192 UNITS, WHICH IS ABOUT 19 UNITS PER ACRE.

THERE IS NO CATEGORY FOR MF 19, OTHERWISE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE REQUESTING.

AND, UM, SHOW YOU SOME OF, OF THE DETAILS OF THE, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ITSELF.

SO THESE IS, THIS IS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THESE, THIS IS A, AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPLEX.

IT'S A LOW INCOME TAX CREDIT PROJECT, 4% LOW INCOME TAX CREDIT PROJECT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHICH MEANS THAT THE RENTS ARE LOWERED FOR THOSE THAT THAT CAN AFFORD IT.

192 UNITS, MOSTLY TWO BEDROOM UNITS.

UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF AMENITIES.

THIS IS A VIEW OF ONE OF PED CORE'S PROJECTS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THEY ARE, PCOR IS NOW ON THEIR FIFTH PROJECT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, ONE THAT'S COMPLETED.

THIS IS WITH THE COMPLETED PROJECT.

AND, UM, REALLY JUST BEEN A, A COMPANY THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 30 PLUS YEARS, HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF DOING THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS.

THEY HOLD THEM ALL, THEY HOLD THOSE PROJECTS.

THEY HAVE A OVER 170, OVER 20,000 UNITS, 13 IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND THIS IS THE FIFTH ONE THAT THEY'RE, UH, ATTEMPTING TO GET IN SAN ANTONIO.

SO AS FAR AS THE LAND USE CONCERNS THAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT, SO LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, AS WE'RE REQUESTING MF 25, UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT FROM THE APPROVAL CRITERIA FOR REZONING IS SUITABILITY AS IT'S PRESENTLY ZONED.

I SAID IT WAS C TWO, UH, C TWO, CD SOME C THREE.

ONE OF THE ISSUES FOR THAT IS TRAFFIC.

YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS WAS DONE BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO SHOW THE COMPARISON OF WHAT THE TRAFFIC COUNT WOULD BE AS THE COMMERCIAL AS IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 88 FOR AM PEAK HOURS 1 0 2 FOR 8:00 PM PEAK HOURS COMPARED TO 1 48 AND 4 48 FOR COMMERCIAL.

SO CERTAINLY WE ARE PROPOSING WITH 192 UNITS TO LOWER THAT TRAFFIC SIGNIFICANTLY THAN WHAT COULD BE THERE ON THE PROPERTY.

AND STAFF HAS POINTED THAT OUT IN THEIR, THEIR, UH, STAFF REPORT AS WELL.

THAT THAT IS, IT IS, UH, IN TERMS OF THE DETRIMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, IT IS A LOWER TRAFFIC COUNT.

COMMERCIAL IS

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ALSO JUST A BROADER RANGE OF USES WHEN YOU LOOK AT C TWO AND C THREE, THE USES THAT IT COULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT AREA.

IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY UNKNOWN AND IT'S REALLY BROAD.

IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU GET MF 25, YOU GET THIS MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPER MARKET RATE HOUSING, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.

YOU'RE GETTING THE, THOSE 192 UNITS.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE USER IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, PCOR, AND THEY ARE A PROVEN DEVELOPER THAT AS PART OF THAT 4% TAX CREDIT, UM, APPLICATION, THEY'RE LOCKED INTO THAT UNIT.

AND AFTER THE ZONING PROCESS, THEY HAVE A 100% CLOSING RATE AFTER A PROPERTY IS ZONED.

SO AFTER A PROPERTY GETS ZONED FOR THEM, THAT'S THEIRS AND THEY HOLD THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HOLD IT FOR AT LEAST 18 YEARS, BUT ALL OF THEM ARE HELD SO THAT THEY ARE NOT SELLING IT AWAY.

SO YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER THAT YOU'RE GETTING.

SO COMPARE THAT TO THE BROAD RANGE OF USES THAT COULD BE WITH C TWO.

WE FEEL THAT IT'S CERTAINLY A BETTER ZONING FOR MF 25 THAN C TWO.

THERE'S, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SOME C THREE ON THERE THAT'S, WE DON'T FEEL THAT'S REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS CORNER.

THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S STAFF POINTED OUT IN THEIR STAFF REPORT.

UM, ALSO ONE OF THE APPROVAL CRITERIA IS CONSISTENCY.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE CODE SAYS.

THAT SHOULD NOT BE, THE ZONING SHOULD NOT BE ALTERED IF IT'LL CAUSE SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT TO THE SURROUNDING LANDS OR IF IT SERVES NO SUBSTANTIAL PUBLIC PURPOSE.

SO DETRIMENT, WE TALKED ABOUT LOWERING THE TRAFFIC ALREADY.

THERE'S MORE CERTAINTY TO THE USE AND TO THE USER.

THERE'S MORE DIVERSITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL TYPE.

YOU HAVE R SIX, YOU HAVE SOME R FOUR THAT'S, THAT'S BACK HERE.

THESE ARE SMALLER LOTS, ABOUT 2,400 SQUARE FEET, SOME OF THESE LOTS.

IT JUST, IT ALLOWS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A MORE DIVERSE RANGE OF OPTIONS.

THERE ARE SOME MF 33 HERE, BUT THIS IS NOT THIS, THIS IS BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW.

THIS, UH, THIS IS NOT UNDER CONTRACT OR BEING BUILT CURRENTLY.

THESE ARE ALL, AND AS ACTUALLY IS CONSISTENCY AS WELL.

IF YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE, LIKE YOU SAID, THIS MULTIFAMILY ZONING THAT YOU HAVE ACROSS THE STREET, UH, THAT'S NORTH OF US.

THERE IS A PATTERN HERE OF COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY MIXED ALONG THIS BABCOCK CORRIDOR.

SO CONSISTENCY IS THERE.

AS FAR AS NO SUBSTANTIAL PUBLIC PURPOSE.

WE ARE SERVING A A, AN IMPORTANT PURPOSE.

I MEAN, HOUSING, THERE HAS AN BEEN AN, AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT HOUSING POLICY THAT'S RELEASED BY THE CITY.

AND WE'RE SERVING THAT POLICY BY ALLOWING THIS HOUSING AND NOT JUST REGULAR HOUSING, BUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT IS ONE OF THE CORNERSTONES OF THAT HOUSING POLICY.

THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN ENCOURAGES MULTIFAMILY IN THIS AREA, AS POINTED OUT BY STAFF IN THEIR REPORT.

AND AS FAR AS USING, UH, MULTIFAMILY AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN SOME MORE INTENSE USES, MF 33, SOME COMMERCIAL USES DOWN TO THE RESIDENTIAL AND SCHOOL USES BEHIND US.

SO THERE WE'RE, WE'RE CERTAINLY SERVING A SUBSTANTIAL PUBLIC PURPOSE IN, IN ALL OF THESE THINGS.

PUBLIC POLICY, AGAIN, HOUSING, THAT'S ONE OF THE APPROVAL CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

IS IT SERVING A PUBLIC POLICY? OF COURSE IT IS.

WE ARE SERVING A REAL NEED IN THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE HOUSING AND NOT JUST HOUSING, BUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO WE'VE GOT LOWER TRAFFIC, WE'RE GETTING RID OF A USE THAT ISN'T AS CONDUCIVE TO THIS AREA.

WE ARE NOT CAUSING THESE SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE FEEL THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THE LAND.

AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE ARE SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA.

LAST THURSDAY WE HELD A MEETING, A LOT OF QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

I DON'T THINK THAT ALL OF THE QUESTIONS HAD BEEN ANSWERED THERE, BUT WE WERE HAVING THIS ONGOING DISCUSSION WITH THEM.

AND OUR PLAN, IF WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH KNOWING THAT WE'RE AT 19 UNITS AN ACRE, WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THEM MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME KIND OF COVENANT TO LIMIT US TO 192 UNITS.

THAT'S CERTAINLY ON THE TABLE.

WE HAVEN'T REACHED THAT YET, BUT WE HAVE TWO MONTHS UNTIL WE GET TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE'RE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

WE TOLD THEM UPFRONT, ABSOLUTELY ARE WILLING TO ENTER INTO THAT.

AND, AND THE COUNCILMAN WAS AT THAT MEETING AND HE, HE KNOWS THAT HE WOULD NOT GET TO APPROVAL UNLESS WE HAD SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT ON THAT.

SO THE LAND USE AS IT IS, WE BELIEVE IS, IS, IS APPROPRIATE THE, THE REQUEST FOR MF 25.

BUT BEYOND THAT, WE, WE ARE STILL IN DISCUSSIONS TO, UM, RESTRICT OURSELVES EVEN FURTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE ARE MAKING PEOPLE HAPPY.

SO, UM, I'LL RESERVE SOME TIME AT THE END FOR REBUTTAL.

THERE WAS NO ONE THERE THAT WAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM.

ERIC NEWMAN, FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA SKAIN.

MY NAME IS ERIC NEWMAN.

I LIVE AT 6 9 1 4 SPRING GARDEN, WHICH IS IN BABCOCK, NORTH IN THE NIG NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE.

UM, I WANTED TO BRIEFLY POINT OUT THE DIFFICULTY IN BEING ABLE TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS, SHOW UP AT ONE O'CLOCK, WAIT FOR FOUR HOURS TO SPEAK.

THERE ARE, I WAS AT THE MEETING THIRD THURSDAY THAT HE REFERRED TO.

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ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE PUT THE WORD OUT.

THERE IS NO ONE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF INCOME-BASED HOUSING THAT ARE NOT SUPPORTING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.

I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT HAVING A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT HAS TRAFFIC FLOWING ALL DAY LONG IS GOING TO BE WORSE THAN RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC.

THAT IS ALWAYS GONNA BE IN RUSH HOUR.

AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PLANNED FOR AT LEAST 300 PARKING SPACES.

SO WE CAN ANTICIPATE, I WOULD GUESS, AT THE MINIMUM 200 ENTERING RUSH HOUR.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT SPRINGTIME, THAT CURVED PART RIGHT THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO EXIT AND HIT EITHER THAT LIGHT OR GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HIT THE OTHER LIGHT.

AND THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS THAT SPRINGTIME IS ALREADY BEING USED AS A CUT THROUGH FOR PEOPLE TO AVOID BABCOCK AND PERU.

SO WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEEDING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT A TIME WHEN KIDS ARE WALKING TO SCHOOL.

BOTH BOONE AND RUDDER, WHICH IS ACROSS PERU, DO NOT HAVE BUSING.

SO ALL OF THESE KIDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WALK TO RUDDER AND THEY WALK TO BOONE IF, IF THEY'RE GOING TO SCHOOL THAT WAY.

AND SO NOT TO MENTION THE TRAFFIC OF PEOPLE, THE PARENTS DROPPING OFF THE KIDS.

SO WE'VE GOT PEOPLE SPEEDING DOWN SPRINGTIME TO AVOID THAT.

WE HAVE SPEED BUMPS THERE.

SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GO BACK TO SPRING MONT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY FURTHER AROUND.

AND TO MAKE THAT A FASTER TRIP, THEY HAVE TO GO EVEN FASTER.

AND ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS IS HERE.

HE CAN TELL YOU THEY HAVE, HE HAS PEOPLE FISHTAILING AROUND THE CORNER IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING SO FAST THROUGH THERE.

ADDING 300 CARS TO THAT IS NOT GONNA BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN FACT, I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THE OTHER ISSUE I THINK IS THE POPULATION DENSITY.

THE GENTLEMAN POINTED OUT ALL OF THE HOUSING THAT IS IN THAT AREA ALREADY AND THAT YELLOW AREA BACK THERE, I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR 700 PLUS UNITS.

THAT'S NOT UNDER CONTRACT, BUT IT'S BEEN APPROVED TOMORROW.

THAT CAN GO 30 SECONDS.

SO, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT RIGHT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, WE'VE ALREADY GOT TWO INCOME-BASED APARTMENT UNITS THAT FEED KIDS INTO BOONE THAT DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE TAX STRUCTURE.

HIS ARGUMENT IS THAT IT'S A BENEFIT BECAUSE YOU'RE PROVIDING INCOME-BASED HOUSING.

THE NET RESULT IS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING KIDS INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WITHOUT PROVIDING FUNDING FOR THEM.

SO YOU'RE PUTTING AN EXTRA BURDEN ON THE HOMES THAT ARE AROUND THERE, WHICH IS CAUSING OUR PROPERTY TAXES TO GO THROUGH THE ROOF.

THE CITY COULD EASILY FIX THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROBLEM BY FIXING THREE MINUTES, THE PROPERTY TAX STRUCTURE.

CYNTHIA GANS 60 46 SPRINGTIME.

CYNTHIA S GOGAN, FOLLOWED BY JESSE COOPER.

BRING TIME.

I'M THE TREASURER WITH THE TANGLEWOOD RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION.

OUR PRESIDENT, TERRY KAHN ASKED ME TO REPRESENT OUR BOARD TODAY.

WE DID NOT GET A NOTICE.

I CONFIRMED THAT WITH THE TANGLEWOOD DIDN'T GET ONE.

I CONFIRMED THAT WITH CITY STAFF THIS MORNING.

UH, SOMEONE TOOK OUR ADDRESS OFF THE SYSTEM AND WE'LL FIX THAT.

IT HAD TO BE SOMEONE IN THE CITY AT THE MEETING LAST THURSDAY, OUR COUNCILMAN SAID HE WAS LEARNING WITH US AND THEN LEFT HALFWAY THROUGH.

I UNDERSTOOD DR.

ROMERO TO SAY WE SHOULD SUPPORT THIS ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER IS BETTER THAN WHAT MIGHT COME ALONG.

POSSIBLY.

PCOR HAS A CONTRACT CONTINGENT ON THIS CHANGE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.

WE HAVE NO GUARANTEES ON ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED.

THE CHANGE YOU'RE GONNA MAKE WILL ALLOW FOR MORE THAN THEY'RE ASKING FOR IF THE DEAL FALLS THROUGH OR 18 YEARS FROM NOW.

MR. NUREMBERG AND NEIGHBORS CONCERNS ABOUT DENSITY WERE OVERRIDDEN ON THE ZONING FOR THE 750 APARTMENTS, WHICH WILL BE BUILT ACROSS THE STREET.

THE YELLOW A APART, WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHAT COLOR IT IS UP THERE.

UH, AND NOW THIS CHANGE WILL ALLOW FOR UP TO 249 APARTMENTS TO BE ADDED ALMOST A THOUSAND TOTAL NEW APARTMENTS AND SEE THE IN AND OUT FOR THERE.

AND WE'VE HEARD FROM ERIC HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING.

THEY'RE ALSO CUTTING THROUGH ON THE OTHER SIDE IN TANGLEWOOD, AT LEAST 2000 MORE VEHICLES POTENTIALLY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OTHER NUMBERS CAME FROM UP THERE IN AN EIGHTH OR SO OF A MILE.

IF WHEN THOSE APARTMENTS ARE ALL BUILT, AT LEAST TWO OTHER LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES NEW ARE NEARBY, AS ERIC POINTED OUT, AND HAVE INCREASED THE TRAFFIC WITH FEW WAYS IN AND OUT OF THE AREA.

I WAS SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT ZONING AND TRAFFIC DON'T MEET BEFORE ZONING CONSIDERS A CHANGE.

IN ADDITION, PED CORE INCOME FROM THE RENTERS WILL LEAVE

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OUR SAN ANTONIO AREA.

FOR THE MOST PART WE KNOW OF NO CONTRIBUTIONS INCLUDING COMPARABLE PROPERTY TAXES THAT WILL BE MADE TOWARDS TRAFFIC AND SCHOOL CHANGES.

WE DON'T SEE AN ADVANTAGE TO THE CITY AND ESPECIALLY NOT NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS IN APPROVING THIS CHANGE.

CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE LOW IN THIS GROWING CITY.

A COMMERCIAL OR HOME DEVELOPER WILL AT SOME POINT PURCHASE AND DEVELOP IN A WAY, INCLUDING TAX CONTRIBUTIONS THAT IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY AND NOT AT THE DENSITY THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

THE CITY'S TANGLEWOOD APPROVED, IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED TANGLE WOODRIDGE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

COMMUNITY PLAN APPEARS TO BE CONTINUALLY IGNORED BY CURRENT CITY STAFF.

30 SECONDS.

WE WANT TO WORK ON COVENANTS AND PCOR HAS BEEN VERY GOOD AT WORK TRYING TO WORK WITH US.

THEY'VE COME TO OUR MEETINGS, UM, AND, AND TERRY HAS MET WITH THEM.

IN FACT, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER DECLINING THE CHANGE BASED ON DENSITY TRAFFIC IN GENERAL AND RELATED SAFETY ISSUES.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TIME TO WORK ON THE COVENANTS IN CASE YOU DO APPROVE IT.

AND IF YOU WOULD NOT WANT THIS DENSITY BY YOUR HOME, PLEASE VOTE.

NO.

THAT'S A THOUSAND NEW HOMES.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND THANKS TO PETCO FOR MEETING WITH US IN ADVANCE AND CONTINUING DISCUSSION.

HELLO, MY NAME'S JESSE COOPER.

JESSE COOPER.

I LIVE AT 11 5 11 SPRING MONTH STREET, UH, ALSO IN THE BABCOCK NORTH.

UH, I WENT TO THE MEETING ON LAST THURSDAY NIGHT AT THE LIBRARY AND WHAT I HEARD IS, AND HEARD IT HERE TODAY IS NOT, UM, WON'T HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, DETRIMENTAL IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY.

I HEARD ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THE POSITIVE IMPACTS.

IT'S ALL A MATTER OF DEGREES OF NEGATIVITY OF WHAT THE COMMERCIAL IS WOULD REPRESENT IN TERMS OF, UM, TRAFFIC.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PROPERTY, UH, BE DEVELOPED IN A WAY THAT IMPROVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE COULD SEE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT.

NOT JUST SEE, YOU KNOW, NOT AS MUCH DETRIMENT AS OTHER THINGS COULD PROVIDE.

UM, THE WAY THIS IS GONNA WORK WITHOUT THE DEVELOPER OR PROPERTY OWNER, UM, PAYING THE TAXES, THIS IS GONNA PUT ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN BURDENED WITH, UH, RISING REAL ESTATE TAXES.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THAT'S ALL THAT SIGNED IN TO SPEAK MR. MCKNIGHT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROMERO.

UM, I THINK, I THINK, UH, I THINK HE'S RIGHT MR. COOPER'S RIGHT? THAT YOU, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT NOT JUST A LACK OF DETRIMENT, BUT AN ACTUAL IMPROVEMENT FOR THE AREA.

AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT.

I BELIEVE THAT PCOR AS A COMPANY IS DEDICATED TO THAT AND, AND PROVIDING A HOUSING, A MIX OF HOUSING, A DIVERSITY RANGE OF HOUSING FOR THIS AREA.

I THINK THAT IS A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT DOES MAKE A BETTER, MORE WELL-ROUNDED COMMUNITY THAN HAVING 10 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL THAT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1979 AND HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED.

IF WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S BETTER TO EITHER SIT THERE OR HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SMALL BE CARVED UP BY SMALL SHOPPING CENTERS, THEN I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU BELIEVE.

BUT I DON'T, I BELIEVE THAT THE BENEFIT IS HAVING PCOR HAVE A REAL DEVELOPMENT AND WORKING ON COVENANTS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET, UH, YOU KNOW, BETTER PER PERHAPS BETTER FENCING, BETTER LANDSCAPING, SOMETHING TO THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY.

BUT WE CAN WORK ON THAT.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS THE USE GOES, HAVING MF 25, LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD GET MF 19 IF THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO US.

UM, AND THERE ARE SOME, SOME GUARANTEES APART FROM THE COVENANTS ABOUT HAVING US LOCKED IN AT 1 92, 1 OF THEM BEING THE APPLICATION FOR THE 4% TAX CREDITS TO THE CITY.

UM, BUT YEAH, WE CAN STILL TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT AS THE USE STANDS AS WE'RE REQUESTING IT, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE.

AND AS FAR, AND I'M SORRY.

ONE, THE THING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH PROBLEMS WITH, WITH PEOPLE DRIVING IN THAT AREA, DRIVING TOO FAST, LEAVING IT AS COMMERCIAL, LEAVING IT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW DOESN'T SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

AT LEAST WITH THE, THE LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC AND HAVING SOME CONTROL OVER THE DEVELOPMENT, WE CAN POSSIBLY IMPROVE ON IT, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS PART OF THAT PROBLEM, WHICH IS NOT US.

BUT WE CAN HELP WITH THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT COMES IN.

BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS SOLVED BY JUST LEAVING IT AS IT IS.

WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, WE WANT TO HAVE A GOOD DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK I'M JUST GONNA GO BACK TO HIS COMMENT AGAIN.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMMENT.

MAKE IT BETTER.

I THINK WE ARE.

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OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I'LL START WITH THE ONES FOR STAFF.

UM, CAN YOU REMIND ME, BECAUSE THERE IS RM FOUR BEHIND HERE.

RMM FOUR IS BASICALLY HOW MANY UNITS PER ACRE? IT'S, IT'S UH, FOUR.

IT'S NOT BASE PER ACRE, IT'S JUST FOUR PER LOT FOR RM FOUR.

IF YOU DO SINGLE FAMILY, IT ENDS UP BEING 11 UNITS, UH, AN ACRE.

BUT THE RMM FOUR ALLOWS ADDITIONAL DENSITY IF YOU MEET A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET UP TO FOUR UNITS.

SO CAN YOU DESCRIBE TO ME WHAT THE RMM FOURS ARE THAT ARE BEHIND THIS PROPERTY? FROM WHAT WE SAW, THEY'RE MAINLY, UH, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY FROM WHAT I SAW, BUT FAIRLY DENSE.

SORRY, FAIRLY DENSE SINGLE FAMILY OR ARE THEY AT THE 11 UNITS PER ACRE? I DON'T, WELL, EACH LOT IS CONFIGURED AS A SINGLE FAMILY.

IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT IT WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE ZONING.

UM, I CAN'T HEAR.

I THINK THIS IS MORE LIKE A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT.

UM, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHERE THE NEAREST BUS STOP IS? NOT MAYBE JAMES KNOWS.

I MEAN, I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S ONE AT, AT BABCOCK AND BABCOCK 6 0 4, WHICH I THINK IS RIGHT IN THE SOUTH, OR, UH, THE CORNER OF PRUDEN BABCOCK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

PRU AND BABCOCK.

YOU DON'T THINK THERE'S ONE CLOSER THAN THAT? IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I MAY BE WRONG.

I KNOW THAT'S, IT'S THE BUS ROUTE.

6 0 4.

YEAH, I THINK THERE'S ONE AT SPRINGTIME.

MICHAEL, IF YOU COULD PULL UP MAYBE THE VIA WEBSITE AND MAYBE WE CAN SEE WHERE THEIR STOPS ARE.

LET ME ASK SOME OTHER QUESTIONS IN THE MEANTIME.

UM, CAN YOU ADDRESS, UH, WHY TANGLEWOOD H O A WAS NOT NOTICED? THEY DID NOT HAVE AN ADDRESS ON THE, UM, MAILING LIST.

I'M SURE WHY THEY, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ADDRESS WAS TAKEN OFF.

IT'S, YOU HAVE TO KEEP UP YOUR REGISTRATION, CORRECT? MONTHLY? YES.

MONTHLY.

SO THEY, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SEND IT OUT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES.

IF THERE'S NO CHANGES, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEND ANYTHING BACK.

BUT IF YOU DO HAVE A CHANGE, YOU HAVE TO SEND IT IN.

BUT THEY CHECK MONTHLY.

WOW.

AND IF THERE'S, UH, IF, IF AN ADDRESS DROPS AND THEY DON'T GET ANYTHING IN THAT MONTH, THEN THE, THE LISTING FOR THE MONTH SHOW REFLECTS NO ADDRESS.

SO THEY JUST NEED TO CONTACT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ADDRESS IS UPDATED AND HAS AN ADDRESS, WHETHER IT'S APPEAL BOX OR PHYSICAL ADDRESS.

UM, ON THE T I A WILL THERE BE A T I A LATER ON THIS OR WHEN THEY APPLY FOR THE PERMITS, THAT'S WHEN THE T I A WILL COME INTO PLACE.

UM, INITIALLY THE, OUR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT SAID A ROAD DEDICATION MIGHT BE REQUIRED.

AND, BUT IN TURN, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE LEFT TURN OUT OF THIS COMPLEX AND IF THE T I A FOUND THAT THAT WAS AN ISSUE, UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY COULD REQUIRE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

'CAUSE THERE IS ALREADY ONE SO CLOSE AT SPRINGTIME.

IS IS THAT CORRECT? THE WAY THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT EXPLAINED IT TO ME IS AT THE TIME WHEN THEY DO THEIR APPLICATION FOR THEIR BUILDING AND THEY WOULD'VE TO DO A T I A, UM, APPLICATION, IF THEY HAVE TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS, THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO BEFORE ANY PERMITS ARE GIVEN OUT.

BUT THE ADJUSTMENT CAN'T BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL 'CAUSE IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

I DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE.

UM, AND, AND DISCUSSION THAT T C I DOES, THEY'LL LOOK AT WHAT IS EXISTING OUT THERE, DETERMINE IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF A NEW TRAFFIC LIGHT IS REQUIRED OR HOW DO YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO MITIGATE BASED ON WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.

OR THEY MAY RECONFIGURE ACCESS POINTS TO ONLY MAKE RIGHT TURN LANES VERSUS LEFT TURN LANES.

BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT ALL HAPPENS EITHER DURING THE PLATT AND OR BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.

IS THE PUBLIC ALLOWED TO SUBMIT COMMENTS AT ALL DURING THAT PROCESS? THE, UH, TRAFFIC, THE ANALYSIS AND, AND THE MITIGATION HAS TO MEET CODE.

SO AS LONG AS IT MEETS CODE, IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.

IF THERE'S A VARIANCE TO THAT, THEN THERE'S PROCESSES FOR VARIANCES THAT WOULD REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES.

BUT IF YOU MEET CODE, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE PLATTING A PROPERTY, AS LONG AS YOU MEET CODE STATE LAW SAYS YOU, THEN YOU PROCEED TO THE PERMIT PROCESS.

THE LAND AND THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM PROPERTY TAXES.

AND THEN I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR JAMES.

AND THAT'S THE BUS STOP RIGHT AT THE NORTH PART OF THE PROPERTY.

JAMES.

UM, SO WITH THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX, ARE THEY COMPLETELY FREED FROM PAYING PROPERTY TAX TO THE STATE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? NOT UNDER THE ZONING AND NOT UNDER THE 4% TAX CREDIT.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE WORKING ON A DEAL WITH THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST PUBLIC FACILITIES CORP.

AND IF THAT DEAL WERE TO WORK OUT, THEN THAT HOUSING TRUST WOULD OWN

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ANY PROPERTY TAXES ALL PRO LIKE FROM WHATEVER DISTRICT SCHOOL DISTRICT CITY? YES.

UM, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW MANY UNITS CAN BE BUILT IN THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN REFERENCED ACROSS THE STREET? THE OLD DOWN ZONING PROPERTY THAT JADE OAKS HOLDS A COVENANT ON, BUT, BUT THEY CAN'T HAVEN'T, I BELIEVE SEVEN 50.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY SEVEN 50 IS THE COVENANT.

THE, YEAH, MS. MCDANIEL KNOWS.

UM, OH, AND WHAT KIND OF BUFFER WOULD GO IN IN THE BACK, UH, WHERE THOSE RMM FOUR PROPERTIES ARE? WHAT, WHAT WOULD THEY BE LOOKING AT EXACTLY? WHAT WOULD BE THE BUFFER AT THAT PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN MF 25? I BELIEVE THAT'S A TYPE B BUFFER, WHICH IS, UH, 15 FEET IN LANDSCAPING.

THAT'S THE REQUIRED BY CODE RIGHT NOW.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ON MY QUESTION.

THEN TO STAFF, BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HAD A REALLY GOOD ANSWER TODAY WHEN, UH, I GOT THEM TO AGREE TO MF 18 AND THAT WOULD TAKE ALL THE HEAT OFF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FROM HAVING TO HOLD THE COVENANT.

AND CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE? UH, NO.

WHY IT'S NOT POSSIBLE, BUT I NEED YOU TO EXPLAIN IT TO EVERYBODY.

I KNOW YOU'RE ALREADY MARCO, I CAN TAKE IT.

IT'S OKAY.

UH, SO OUR CODE HAS, UM, PARAMETERS IN WHICH A ZONING REQUEST CAN BE AMENDED THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO I'M GONNA EXPLAIN THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES RELATED TO THE CODE AND SUSAN CAN, CAN CHIME IN ON ANY LEGAL REASONS AS TO WHY WE HAVE IT THIS WAY.

UH, SO THE CODE SAYS WITHIN THESE PARAMETERS, BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT NOTIFICATION, IT'S ABOUT NOTIFICATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE SURROUNDING IT.

IT'S ABOUT NOTIFICATION, PROPER NOTIFICATION FOR REZONING TO THE ACTUAL OWNER THEMSELVES.

SO WHEN YOU START OFF FROM, UH, AN INTENSE DISTRICT OF C TWO AND YOU ARE GOING TO A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT, IN THIS CASE MF 25, YOU HAVE A RANGE WITHIN THAT WITH THAT IS NOT MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE TO DECREASING THE DENSITY TO MF 18 IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO GO FROM.

IF THIS WAS REVERSED, IF THIS WAS R SIX TO MF 25, MF 18 IS IN BETWEEN THAT AND COULD BE AMENDED AT THE PODIUM.

BUT THE MF 18 IS OUTSIDE THE RANGE, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT OUTSIDE THE RANGE.

AND AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING THE RIGHTS SO YOU AREN'T REZONING PROPERTY TO SOMETHING MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT YOU HAD REQUESTED.

UH, SO WE HAVE THOSE CERTAIN PARAMETERS BECAUSE AGAIN, ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THIS, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE PARAMETERS IN WHICH YOU CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS AT THE PODIUM, EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO BE RE NOTIFIED IF, UH, SOMEONE WANTED TO CHANGE THE REQUEST.

'CAUSE AGAIN, WHAT GOES OUT IN THE, IN THE NOTICE IS FROM THIS TO THIS, AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SEE.

SO HAVING SOMETHING THAT APPROVED THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY GOT NOTICE TO, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THOSE PARAMETERS IN WHICH THAT ALLOWANCE IS ALLOWED.

SO AGAIN, THIS, IN THIS CASE, DROPPING THE DENSITY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LESS DENSITY, IS ACTUALLY MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE GROUND AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO GO TO.

AND SO THAT'S WHY IT REQUIRES REIFICATION.

I I JUST COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICING WHEN WE DID THE I D Z CASE AND THE, SO IT DOESN'T APPLY WITHIN THE I D Z TO THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE ATTACHED.

AGAIN, AGAIN, I D Z, YOU CAN AMEND AS LONG AS IT'S LESS DENSITY AND LESS INTENSITY.

IF YOU'RE GONNA GO MORE THAN THAT, THEN YES, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO RE NOTIFY.

BUT REMEMBER WE PUT THAT INTO THE CODE TO ALLOW THAT AMENDMENT FOR I D Z, BUT IT'S ABOUT LESS DENSITY, BUT YOU CHANGE IT FROM, YOU'RE NO LONGER REQUESTING I D Z, YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE IT TO A CONVENTIONAL ZONING DISTRICT.

IT TRIGGERS REIFICATION EVEN IF IT WAS LESS, UH, ONE LESS DISTRICT THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING FROM I D C.

SO AGAIN, THOSE PARAMETERS ARE WITHIN THE CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROPER NOTIFICATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS.

WELL, NOT TO PRESS THE POINT, BUT WHEN WE HAD THAT I D Z CASE BEFORE THE ONE ON MYRTLE, AND IT WAS ID, IT WAS ALREADY C THREE AND I ONE AND THEN THEY WERE CHANGING IT TO ALLOW FOR C TWO AND THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE RANGE.

'CAUSE IT'S NOT BETWEEN C THREE AND I ONE.

SO NO, ACTUALLY THE I D Z IS, IF YOU LOOK IN THE NOTES BEFORE THAT AGAIN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN REQUEST TO GO LESS.

NO, BECAUSE THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THOSE, WITHIN THAT AMENDING RANGE I GIVE UP ON THAT.

UM, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

I THINK I'M REALLY CONFUSED, BUT, UM, , UH, COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

ANY QUESTIONS?

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UM, COMMISSIONER? YES, COMMISSIONER MC, DEEL.

OKAY, JUST BEAR WITH ME JUST A LITTLE, UM, HISTORY FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE KIND OF NEW TO THIS.

SO BACK IN 2016, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED SITE TODAY THERE ARE 35 ACRES THAT WERE, UM, ZONED M F 33.

AND AT THAT TIME COUNCILMAN BERG WANTED TO, UH, DOWN ZONE THAT, UH, TO R SIX OR SOME TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL USE AND COMMERCIAL ON ALONG BABCOCK.

UM, AT THE TIME THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OWNED IT AND WAS TRYING TO AUCTION IT OFF.

SO THAT ALL FAILED AND THE LAND RETAINED THE MF 33.

NOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON PRU, JADE OAKS ACTUALLY OWNS COVENANTS TO THAT PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE LIMITED DEVELOPMENT TO 750 UNITS, BUT THAT IS STILL 750 UNITS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

SO FOR ME, UM, AND THE APPLICANT HAS KIND OF ANSWERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS ALREADY.

UM, BUT I WOULD WANNA JUST ASK A COUPLE MORE, BUT I, I WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS AND IT IS 750 UNITS AND THAT THE PRICE THAT THE, UH, THAT THE PERSON BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FOR, IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY WOULD EVER BE REPURCHASED AND REZONED DOWN FROM THAT POINT.

SO IT'S OKAY.

QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, SO, AND PETCO HAS DONE A REASONABLE JOB ABOUT TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY EVEN THOUGH FOR WHATEVER REASON OUR ADDRESS FELL OFF OF THE SYSTEM, THEY DID REACH OUT TO TANGLEWOOD AND, UH, YOU HAD THE COMMUNITY MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT AND Y'ALL DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING EVERYTHING.

BUT I THINK WE DID HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE OPPOSED TO IT AND FOR VARIOUS REASONS, THE TAX PURPOSES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

UM, MY CONCERN ALWAYS RIGHT NOW IS AND UM, AGAIN, WITH THE, WITH THE FACT THAT THE CONTRACTS ARE ALWAYS CONTINGENT, IT'S ALWAYS VERY UNNERVING TO DO A ZONING LIKE THAT.

UM, SO AGAIN, ARE THE UNITS MEANT TO BE AT 192, ARE THEY WILLING TO COME DOWN ANY LESS THAN THAT AT ALL? WE CAN STILL TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, NO.

THEY'RE FEELING 1 92 IS THEIR BASE RIGHT NOW.

'CAUSE THEY, WHEN THEY FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY, THEY DID DISCUSS WHETHER THEY COULD MAKE 18 WORK AND, AND IT'S RIGHT ON THE RANGE.

AND SO 1 92 IS WHERE THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.

AND UM, FOR SOME REASON YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN THAT THEY HAD SHARED A LITTLE EARLIER.

IT IT'S A TOTAL OF EIGHT BUILDINGS ON THIS SITE, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT.

YEAH, THAT JUST CAME UP YESTERDAY.

SO YEAH, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ON THURSDAY.

AND UNDER STAFF, REFRESH MY MEMORY, UNDER MF 25, WHAT'S THE HEIGHT ALLOWED FOR THOSE BUILDINGS? IS THAT THREE STORIES? IS IT 35? 35 FEET? OKAY.

IT'S 35 FEET SIMILAR TO SINGLE FAMILY.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

COMMISSIONER ROMERO, I'M SORRY, I I JUST HAVE TO ASK ONE MORE THING, SUSAN 'CAUSE IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY.

SO I'M LOOKING AT SECTION 4 0 3 IN THE CODE.

SO UNDER FOUR B, THE FOLLOWING REQUEST FOR ZONING SHALL NOT REQUIRE REIFICATION ONE AMENDING A ZONING REQUEST TO DECREASE THE DENSITY OF A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT, NOTWITHSTANDING SUBSECTION D FOUR A ABOVE.

BUT LOOK AT THE END OF WHERE IT SAYS AMENDING ANY ZONING REQUEST OUTSIDE THE RANGE OF TABLE 4 0 3 DASH TWO HAVE TWO COMPETING THINGS.

IT JUST, IT HAS TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE NOTES AND IT MAY BE A LITTLE CHALLENGING TO FOLLOW THEM ALL, BUT THEY'RE THERE.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? UH, LET ME SAY A FEW THINGS HERE.

UM, I WANNA BE CLEAR.

SOMETIMES I I THINK TOO FAST FOR SPEAKING AND I DON'T SPEAK CLEARLY.

I WOULD NEVER TELL, AND I'M SORRY IF THIS DIDN'T COME ACROSS.

I WOULD NEVER TELL NEIGHBORS THAT THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT SOMETHING OR HAVE TO NOT SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

THAT'S PART OF MY ROLE IS THAT I'M THERE TO LISTEN TO

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YOU.

WHAT I MEANT AND WHAT I RECALL SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE THING TO CONSIDER IN THIS CASE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS COMPANY, AND I, I THINK THIS CAME THROUGH IN THEIR PRESENTATION AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I KNOW, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.

UH, BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD, WE CAN, WE CAN SEE THE PICTURES, WE KNOW WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT.

AND I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE COMING IN.

AND WE SAY THIS, WE SEE THIS A LOT.

YOU KNOW, AN APPLICANT WILL COME IN, GET MF 33, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD SOMETHING AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO'S GOING TO RUN IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ALL SEEN A LOT OF REAL RUNDOWN APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN TOWN.

AND SO I'M JUST SAYING SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THE DEVIL YOU KNOW IS BETTER THAN THE DEVIL YOU DON'T KNOW.

UM, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR I WAS NOT TELLING YOU, UM, WHAT'S TO SUPPORT OR NOT TO SUPPORT.

UM, AND I THINK MR. COOPER'S COMMENT ABOUT DEGREES OF NEGATIVITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF SAD.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DO A LOT HERE.

I MEAN, THE, THE CITY'S DEVELOPING AND UNLESS SOMEBODY'S GONNA COME IN AND SAY, I WANNA REZONE TO PUT A PARK NEXT TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE PROBLEMATIC.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY.

YES, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT THERE.

UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YEAH, IF I LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD DEFINITELY WANNA JUST KEEP IT LIKE IT IS.

IT'S A, IT'S A VACANT LOT PRACTICALLY RIGHT NOW, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ANYTHING THAT COMES IN THERE IS GOING TO BRING PROBLEMS WITH IT.

BUT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT THE ZONING IS ON THIS PROPERTY AND I HAVE TO BELIEVE THOSE TRAFFIC COUNTS.

AND THEY'RE SHOWING THAT IF IT WERE DEVELOPED WITH THE CURRENT ZONING, UH, THAT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS WOULD BE HIGHER THAN IF IT'S DEVELOPED WITH WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING RIGHT NOW.

AND THEY'RE DOING IT AT THE PEAK HOURS.

UM, STAFF HAS NOT RAISED ANY QUESTIONS TO, IN FACT, THEY BRING IT UP IN THEIR OWN COMMENTS.

UM, ON HERE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE THE MF 18.

I THINK THERE IS POTENTIALLY STILL ROOM TO FIGHT FOR THE MF 18 AS THIS GOES TO CITY COUNCIL.

UM, SO I I, I DO THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, THAT, THAT THE NEIGHBORS CAN, CAN PUSH FOR.

I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE ASPECT OF THIS.

UM, I MEAN, I, I AGREE WITH, WITH JAMES THAT AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNED, THIS, THIS IS BRINGING IN SOMETHING GOOD.

BUT AGAIN, YEAH, I, I DON'T EXPECT NEIGHBORS TO COME UP AND SAY, OH, LET US BE THE FIRST ONES TO HAVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.

UM, I DO, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPLEXES CAN GET OUT OF PAYING ANY TAXES, BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT IN OUR PURVIEW TO DISCUSS.

UM, SO I AM LEANING TOWARDS MAKING A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR OTHER COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT.

UM, COMMENTS.

700 CARS IN THE AFTERNOON.

YEAH, I, I WILL JUST ECHO I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS, UH, YOU SAID COMMISSIONER ROMERO, I THINK WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THE TRAFFIC, UH, THE TRAFFIC REPORTS AS, AS THEY ARE.

AND IT LOOKS TO BE LESS TRAFFIC HERE, UM, THAN WITH WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING IS.

UM, I ALSO AGREE WITH JAMES ON IT IS I THINK BRINGING SOMETHING GOOD, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY HERE IN THIS PART OF TOWN.

AND, UM, SO IF THE MOTION IS MADE, UM, TO APPROVE THE ZONING, I'LL CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT COMMENTS? UM, I TOO, UM, AM THINKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND ALSO THINKING THERE'S MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, SOME TRAFFIC, UH, MITIGATION, UM, WITH THIS, UH, POTENTIAL PROJECT.

UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? SO, UH, FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, I DO LIVE IN THE AREA, BUT, UH, I, SO I CAN SAY I HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRAFFIC OUTSIDE AT THAT INTERSECTION.

AND I CAN TELL YOU TRAFFIC ENGINEER OR NOT, IT DOES STACK UP EVERY DAY QUITE, QUITE A BIT.

AND AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS NOT JUST THE DENSITY WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, EVEN ARGUING THAT THERE'S ONLY 88 TRIPS, PEAK TRIPS IN THE MORNING FOR 180 UNITS ACROSS THE STREET, YOU'VE GOT 750 UNITS.

SO DOING THE MATH, THAT'S ANOTHER 600 CARS ON THAT SIDE.

SO I'M AT 700 CARS IN THE MORNING AND

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THAT'S STILL A LOT OF TRAFFIC TO ADD WITHIN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, A THOUSAND FEET OF EACH OTHER, THEIR ENTRANCES.

AND WITHIN TWO STREETS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, WORKING TOGETHER TO MOVE ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC.

UM, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DIVERSITY.

WE ALREADY DO HAVE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE, UH, THREE COMPLEXES THAT I COULD PROBABLY NAME FOR YOU IF YOU NEEDED.

UM, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT A GOOD PROJECT.

I'VE ALREADY GONE ON RECORD TO SAY THAT.

MY WHOLE POINT THOUGH IS JUST THE LOCATION OF IT AND I JUST, I HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING PAST THAT LOCATION.

UM, THE TAX POLICY ISSUE, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND I AGREE WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE POLICY MAKERS ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS.

UH, HOMEOWNERS ARE REALLY FEELING THE BURDEN OF A LOT OF THIS.

AND AS WE PUSH FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE.

SO I THINK THE POLICY MAKERS ARE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND, AND TRY TO FIND SOME KIND OF A FIX FOR THAT.

UM, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER ROMERO? OKAY.

UM, I, I WANNA THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT.

THIS, I'M REALLY SORRY YOU WERE ITEM 15 AND I'M SORRY WE TOOK SO LONG.

UH, AND I'M SORRY I'M TALKING SO MUCH.

BUT FOR CASE, UH, NUMBER 15, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT.

ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO.

MADAM CHAIR.

MOTION FAILS.

YOU CAN MOTION TO RECONSIDER OR IT COMES BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.

CAN I MOTION TO RECONSIDER? OH, OR IT COMES BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.

OH, NO MOTION.

SO IT'LL, UH, COME BACK IN JANUARY.

UM, I, I DO HOPE THERE CAN CONTINUE TO BE A DIALOGUE.

MS. GOGGINS, YOU SAID UH, THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY, SO I HOPE THAT CAN HAPPEN.

THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH.

NEXT TIME IT SHOULD BE A HIGHER NU A LOWER NUMBER AT LEAST.

SO WE'LL HEAR IT SOONER.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'LL BE EARLIER IN THE AGENDA NEXT TIME.

YOU WON'T HAVE TO SIT TILL THE .

CAN WE JUST END OF THE MEETING BEFORE THEY LEAVE? CONFIRM THE DATE 'CAUSE WE ARE CANCELING OUR FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.

1:00 PM RIGHT HERE? YES.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR COMING AND BEING REAL TROOPERS FOR UH, BEING HERE.