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GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
MY NAME IS JOHN BUS AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
THE TIME IS ONE O'CLOCK AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION.
IN THE SESSION, UH, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
I REPRESENT DISTRICT EIGHT, DANNY KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10 MOSES VE, DISTRICT NINE
EDDIE RODRIGUEZ, DISTRICT FOUR ANA MAYOR'S APPOINTEE STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALRIGHT, PRIOR TO BEGINNING OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES.
UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CHECK MARKS WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST.
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED INTO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU'LL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND TO ANNOUNCE, UM, THAT WHEN THE SPEAKER IS GOING UP TO THE PODIUM THAT YOU ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
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WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED ITEMS? YES.WE HAVE TWO ITEMS. ONE AND 20 AND THEY ARE WITHDRAWN.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEMS ONE AND 20 ON WILD EAGLE ROAD AND BABCOCK ROAD ON THE ONE HAND AND EAST HOUSTON STREET ON THE OTHER, THOSE ITEMS WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.
YOU CAN GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS, UH, IF THEY ARE BROUGHT BACK IN THE FUTURE, YOU WILL RECEIVE A NOTICE IN THE MAIL AS YOU DID FOR THOSE CASES TODAY.
UH, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY, UH, NO RAIN, WHICH MIGHT CHANGE LATER IN THE WEEK.
UH, IT'S ZONING AND METEOROLOGY HERE TODAY.
UM, IN ANY EVENT, UH, THOSE TWO CASES, ITEMS ONE AND 20 WILL NOT BE HEARD.
STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE LIST THE ITEMS ON OUR COMBINED HEARING.
AGENDA, THE CONSENT AGENDA PLEASE.
ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, AND 28.
UH, ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?
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LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ THE CONSENT AGENDA INTO THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 82 10 MCCULLOUGH AVENUE.
ZERO OPPOSED SHEER HILLS RIDGE VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1 0 5 2 3 MOUNT BAKER DRIVE.
ZERO OPPOSED MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCI OR I'M SORRY, NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
WE RECEIVED TWO MORE IN FAVOR.
ITEM 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM IDZ WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO DISTRICT TO I DZ.
THREE WITH USES PERMITTED IN UM, C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT LOCATED AT 100 BLANCO ROAD.
ZERO OPPOSED BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 18 TO MF 33 LOCATED AT 82 10 PINEBROOK DRIVE.
NINE OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION AND THE APPLICANT IS AMENDING THEIR PROPOSAL TO MF 25 LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO C TWO LOCATED AT 1711 CITADEL PLAZA.
ZERO OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO R FOUR LOCATED AT 3 0 6 WARD AVENUE.
37 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR.
AND RIVERDALE, OR I'M SORRY, RIVERSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THEATER INDOOR PERMITTING OVER TWO SCREENS AND C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A HOME IMPROVEMENT CENTER GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 24,000 BLOCK OF WEST INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT AN EIGHT FOOT SOLID FENCE IS INSTALLED ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE AND THAT A 15 FOOT TYPE C BUFFER IN THE REAR YARD, UM, IS INSTALLED.
THE RESIDENTIAL USES 45 NOTICES WERE MAILED ONE IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED? NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
AND WE DO HAVE AN UPDATED SITE PLAN OR AN AMENDED SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM QDS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR BLASTING AND ASPHALTIC CONCRETE TO C TWO NA LOCATED AT 54 15 NORTH LOOP 1604 EAST 12 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO C TWO LOCATED AT 7 7 0 1 WOODCHASE DRIVE.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 24 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C ONE TO C TWO LOCATED AT 39 39 MEDICAL DRIVE 11.
ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE RIOT COMMONS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.
ITEM NUMBER 25 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN NC AND A PARKING LOT COMMERCIAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT 3 1 1 EAST ASHBY PLACE.
ZERO OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY AND MONTE VISTA HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR THE SAN ANTONIO TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 26 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO LOCATED AT 26 25 BROADWAY STREET.
NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND WESTFORD ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 27 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C ONE TO IDZ ONE WITH USES PERMITTED IN AN OH ONE AND A WINE BOUTIQUE LOCATED AT 9 3 5 SOUTH ALAMO STREET.
ONE WAS NOT OPPOSED BUT JUST HAS CONCERNS WITH PARKING AND MUSIC.
KING WILLIAMS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
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GAVE NO RESPONSE.A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO S TWO WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A BINGO HALL TO TOD MX THREE LOCATED AT 71 42 SAN PEDRO AVENUE.
UM, RIDGEVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED FOREIGN FAVOR AND 13 OPPOSED.
AND WE DO HAVE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ONE OF OUR ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 10.
OKAY, IF WE COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.
ANY ANYONE ELSE? THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ITEMS NUMBER 9 10 13 16 AS AMENDED 17 18 19 WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS AS STATED ITEM 21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27 AND 28.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 9 10 13 16 AS AMENDED 17 18 19 AS AMENDED WITH SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27 AND 28 BY COMMISSIONER HUEY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS YOU MAY GO, YOU CAN MAKE A LITTLE NOISE.
UH, BUT ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT UH, AGENDA IS THE CONTINUANCE HEARING AGENDA FOR JUNE 2ND, 2026.
STAFF, IF WE COULD HAVE THOSE ITEMS PLEASE.
WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS, ITEMS 4, 6, 8, 12, AND 15 ARE REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE 2ND MEETING.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? YES.
COMMISSIONER HUEY MOVE TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO THE TWO JUNE 26TH.
ZONING HEARING ITEM NUMBER 4, 6, 8, 12 AND 15.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DUBEL.
WE HAVE UM, WE HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS.
SO F UH, FIRST TWO SPEAKERS ARE FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT LOCATED AT RIO CITY ROAD.
FIRST SPEAKER IS MS. TRICIA FAY TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. DEBORAH NCE.
ARE YOU MS. ARE MS. FAYE, THAT'S TRICIA FA? YES.
UM, AND THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONTINUANCE ITEMS. VERY GOOD.
UH, WE DO HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CONTINUANCE OF 4, 6, 8, 12, AND 15 BY COMMISSIONER HUEY AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VE UH, ANY DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT? SEEING NONE DISCUSSION TO MY RIGHT.
UH, AGAIN, THE MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEMS 4, 6, 8, 12, AND 15 BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VE ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
AND FOR THE RECORD, I DID WANNA MAKE ONE THING CLEAR ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
I REQUESTED THAT CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS.
UM, AS A RESULT, UH, I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY PILING ON, UH, REGARDING ANY VIOLATIONS FOR THAT PROPERTY.
UH, AND THE INTERVENING TIME BETWEEN NOW AND EITHER WE HEAR IT OR THE COUNCIL HEARS IT AS I FEEL THAT'S INEQUITABLE.
UH, AND I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT DURING DISCUSSION.
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ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS. OKAY.AND, UH, FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER HUEY IS RECUSING HIMSELF FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS OUR FIRST INDIVIDUAL ITEM.
THE TIME IS ONE 15 AND COMMISSIONER HUEY HAS LEFT THE HEARING ROOM.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE OR APPLICANT.
I DIDN'T SLEEP WONDERFULLY ON SUNDAY.
UH, IF Y'ALL WERE HERE FOR ITEMS 4, 6, 8, 12 OR 15, Y'ALL CAN GO ABOUT YOUR DAY AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
MY NAME IS ALEXA ANA, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 2200 BLOCK OF STONE OAK PARKWAY.
GOING FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C TWO S COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION HALL AND MEETING FACILITIES WITH ALL OVERLAYS STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 29 NOTICES SENT OUT, ZERO IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.
AND STONE OAK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO S COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION, HALL MEETING FACILITIES IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEVELOP A CULTURAL EVENT CENTER THAT WILL CONSIST OF A FLEXIBLE BANQUET HALL, FOOD PREPARATION AREA AND MEETING ROOMS. THE SITE IS LOCATED AMONG OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONINGS WITH ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON THE OPPOSING SIDE OF STONE OAK PARKWAY.
THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL INTENSITY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BLOCK FACE AND THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION WOULD BE REGULATED BY THE PRESCRIBED SITE PLAN.
ADDITIONALLY, THE SITE'S LOCATION OVER THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE WOULD REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF COMPLIANCE WITH SAUL'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND SAUL'S STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ARE PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE SAS REPORT.
MICHAEL BARR WITH THE RESOURCE PROTECTION DIVISION OF THE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ZONING CASE Z 2 0 2 6 1 0 7 0 0 0 6 3.
UH, WE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED AT EAST, UH, EAST OF CANYON GULF ROAD IN STONE OAK PARKWAY INTERSECTION, ALLOWING FOR A MEETING HALL FACILITY.
THE SITE IS UNDEVELOPED WITH NATIVE OF TREES AND UN AND UNDERSTORY TREES ON 4.27 ACRES.
THE PROPERTY IS CLASSIFIED AS CATEGORY ONE PROPERTY.
UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE WILL CONSIST OF A BANQUET HALL MEETING ROOMS AND PARKING AREAS.
NO PORTION OF THE SITE IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES WERE DOCUMENTED NOR OBSERVED ON A SITE INVESTIGATION.
UH, SAUL'S RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN SAUL'S REPORT, INCLUDING THE 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE 4.27 ACRES.
IS THERE ANY I'M SORRY, APPLICANT.
ESTEEMED, UM, MEMBERS OF ZONING COMMISSION.
UH, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A POWERPOINT.
MY NAME IS ELISA CHAN AND I SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASIAN RESOURCE CENTER OF SAN ANTONIO, WHICH IS A 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
AND WE ARE PLANNING TO BUILD A NEW ASIAN RESOURCE CENTER THAT WILL SERVE AS THE COMMUNITY HUB FOR CULTURAL EDUCATION, BUT ALSO COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES.
AND WE'RE HERE TODAY SEEKING APPROVAL FOR REZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO S SPECIAL USE.
AND, UH, WE WERE ASKED TO GIVE YOU A SHORT PRESENTATION AND WHICH I'M HAPPY TO DO SO.
AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PROPERTY IS A UNDEVELOPED 4.2 ACRE PLUS SITE ON STONE OAK PARKWAY.
AND, UH, CURRENTLY ZONE C TWO SEEKING FOR C TWO SPECIAL USE.
I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO, TO THE STONE, OAK POA EARLY ON IN THE PROJECT.
I WONDER IF, UM, AND HERE IS THE AERIAL VIEW AS YOU SAW BEFORE.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO PRESERVE AS MANY EXISTING TREES AS POSSIBLE AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE WELL UNDER BELOW THE MAXIMUM ALLOW IMPERIOUS COVERAGE, WHICH IS 65%.
WE ALSO WILL HAVE WATER FILTRATION SYSTEM THAT IS DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
UH, VERY QUICKLY ABOUT THE PROJECT, THE PROJECT IS ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FEET AS MENTIONED EARLIER.
WE'LL HAVE BANQUET HALL, FOOD PREPARATION AREA OFFICES, BUT WE ALSO WILL HAVE A FROM PLAZA AND ALSO A GARDEN IN THE RARE SIDE.
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WE, I GET, I'M GIVING YOU A LOT OF RENDERINGS.HOPEFULLY MY PRESENTATION WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE INTERESTING.
UH, THIS IS THE FRONT WHEEL OF THE, OF THE BUILDING AND WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE STONE OAK POA AND WE ARE GOING TO ENSURE THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE AESTHETIC OF THE BUILDING WILL COMPLIMENTS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UM, CAN I HAVE THE PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS ONE? UH, THIS IS A, A VIEW OF THE ENTRANCE AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE OUR WALL THAT, UH, WILL WELCOME PEOPLE TO COMING INTO THE BUILDING.
UH, THIS IS THE, A LITTLE, UH, THE RENDERING OF THE RECEPTION HALL.
THIS IS A MULTIPURPOSE, WE COULD HOST ARTS AND EXHIBITIONS.
WE COULD HAVE RECEPTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOSTED UNDER THIS HALL.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, THIS IS THE BANQUET HALL WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
WE PLAN TO HAVE FESTIVALS, PERFORMANCES, LANGUAGE CLASSES, EDUCATIONS, WELLNESS PROGRAMS. IT'S A VERY MULTI-USE, UH, FACILITY.
AND THIS IS A LITTLE VIEW ABOUT THE BACK VIEW.
UH, IT WILL, BEFORE WE, UM, DEVELOP THE GARDEN, THE DESIGN, WE WILL KEEP IT AS THE GREEN SPACE.
AND THIS COULD BE THE FUTURE GARDEN.
THIS IS ONLY ONE OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN, CONCEPTUAL DESIGN RENDERING.
AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR REQUEST AND FOR YOUR FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT NINE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER DUBEL TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
ONE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, SO I SEE THAT, UH, STONE, OAK PARKWAY HERE IS, UH, UH, THE LANES, THE DIRECTIONS ARE SEPARATED, RIGHT? UM, AND THE PROPERTY'S GONNA BE ON, ON ONE SIDE.
UM, SO CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY TALK TO ME ABOUT THE, THE CIRCULATION PLAN? SURE.
GIVEN THAT, UM, SO IF YOU, UH, YEAH.
THE, THE OTHER SLIDE WILL BE GOOD.
SO WE PLAN TO HAVE TWO ENTRANCES, ONE ENTRANCE.
IT WILL HAVE BOTH THE ENTRY AND ALSO THE EXIT, BUT WE ALSO PLAN IN THE DESIGN.
SO HERE WE'LL HAVE THE ENTRANCE, WHICH WILL HAVE THE ENTRANCE IN AND OUT, BUT WE ARE PROPOSING ANOTHER ENTRANCE HERE THAT WILL ONLY HAVE THE EXIT TO THE RIGHT.
SO IN THAT CASE, WE UNDERSTAND I LIVE IN STONEHILL.
I UNDERSTAND TRAFFIC IS A BIG ISSUE.
SO WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MINIMIZE AS MUCH OF A TRAFFIC ISSUE AS POSSIBLE.
RIGHT? SO, UH, QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE ZONING.
UM, WHY WAS A S REQUIRED, WHY WAS A SPECIAL USE AUTHORIZATION REQUIRED ON THIS CASE? I SEE THAT THE ZONING IS C TWO C TWO.
SO WHY, WHY THE S UH, SO THE USE OF THE PUBLIC MEETING FACILITY, UH, RECEPTION HALL USE, THAT'S NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
SO THE S IS TREATED VERY SIMILARLY TO A, SOMETHING COMPARABLE WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE.
AND SO IN THE SAME WAY SOME ZONING DISTRICTS MIGHT NEED A CONDITIONAL USE.
OUR USE MATRIC REQUIRES THAT, UM, THIS USE WITHIN C TWO REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION.
SO I, UH, LOOKED IN THE, UH, APPENDIX OF THE UDC, UM, FOR DEFINITIONS AND UNDER, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL USES AND THE CATEGORY SOCIAL, I SAW CLUB PRIVATE AND CLUBHOUSE PRIVATE, INCLUDING LODGES AND MEETING HALLS.
UM, WHY WOULD THIS NOT FALL UNDER THE DEFINITION OF A CLUBHOUSE, INCLUDING MEETING HALL? UM, SO PRETTY MUCH THE CLUBHOUSES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
UM, CLUBHOUSE IS A PRIVATE CLUB MET WITH MEMBERSHIP DUES, AND SO THAT'S JUST A, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE.
I, I JUST, WE, WELL, WE LOOKED AT IT SPECIFICALLY, THEY'RE RENTING THIS OUT AS A RECEPTION HALL.
THAT WAS WHAT THEY STATED IN THEIR NOTICE WHEN THEY TOLD US WHAT THE USE IS.
SO THAT WAS THE USE THAT WE SELECTED THAT WOULD BE BEST TO APPLY TO THIS USE.
SO IF, IF A, UM, IF THEY WERE, WOULD THE WAY THAT IT WOULD BE INTERPRETED BE THAT IF IT WAS ONLY BEING USED BY MEMBERS DUES PAYING MEMBERS, THAT WOULD BE A CLUBHOUSE.
I WOULD BE MORE LEANING TOWARDS, YES.
IF IT WAS USED FOR ONLY CLUB RELATION, UH, EVENTS.
SO IF IT WAS A, A SAY A, A ROTARY CLUB OR A LIONS CLUB WERE TO RENT OUT TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, MIGHT THAT COMPROMISE THE, THE ZONING AS A CLUBHOUSE MEETING HALL?
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I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY IN THE CITY THAT ARE ZONED THAT, BUT YEAH, I, I I THINK WE'D NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHATEVER HYPOTHETICAL ISSUE CAME UP IN, IN THE FUTURE AND MAKE A DECISION AT THAT TIME.BUT WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY, I THINK IS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING AND IT GIVES THE OPERATOR OF THE FACILITY MORE FLEXIBILITY, SO RIGHT.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN JUST LAST QUESTION, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THIS FOR THE FUTURE WITH AN S WHAT, UM, IN TERMS OF PROCESS FOR THE APPLICANT, WHAT, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES AN S MAKE? DOES IS THE PROCESS TAKE LONGER OTHER THAN LIKE THE POTENTIAL FOR US APPLYING ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS? WHAT, WHAT ELSE DOES IT ENTAIL? NO, IT'S THE SAME PROCESS AS, AS A REGULAR REZONING.
UM, IT, THE, THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS IT REQUIRES A SITE PLAN LIKE ALEXA MENTIONED WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE.
SO IT, IT WOULD NOT HAVE REQUIRED A SITE PLAN HAD IT, I MEAN IT WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO BE A REZONE ANY CASE.
WELL, C CLUB UNDER C TWO, IT, UH, REQUIRES ANS AS WELL.
OH, IS THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? A CLUBHOUSE REQUIRES AN S UNDER C TWO UNDER PRIVATE CLUB.
IT, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU MEANT CLUB OR CLUBHOUSE, BUT THE CLUB DOES, BUT CLUBHOUSE DOES NOT.
SO THE CLUBHOUSE DOES NOT, UM, JUST IN THE FUTURE FOR APPLICANTS.
UM, SO I GUESS THE KEY GOES INTO THAT APPLICATION IF YOU APPLY AND SAY PREDOMINANTLY IT'S A MEMBERSHIP BASED ORGANIZATION THAT WAS RUNNING EVENTS FOR ITS MEMBERS, THAT MIGHT COME DOWN DIFFERENTLY IN WHAT THE STAFF INTERPRETS UNDER THE USE TABLE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ELL, UH, ANY QUESTIONS LEFT? SEEING NONE, ANY QUESTIONS? RIGHT.
SORRY, COMMISSIONER, UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
WHAT WAS YOUR, UM, OUTREACH? I MEAN, I, I SEE, I MEAN THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THERE'S A MEDICAL FACILITY.
I GUESS THERE'S NO HOUSING BEHIND IT, CORRECT? NO, THERE'S NO HOUSING.
THAT'S A FLOOD PLAN ON THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ACTUALLY HAS A HIGHER ELEVATION, SO IT WILL NOT HAVE ANY NOISE ISSUES.
AND ALSO ON THE, THE WEST SIDE OF IT, IT IS ACTUALLY A MEDICAL FACILITY.
AND UH, AND WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF BUFFER.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE, IT HAS PARKING AND WE, AS I MENTIONED, ALL IN ALL DEVELOPMENT IN STONE, OAK IS PART OF THE STONE OAK, POA.
SO REACHING OUT TO STONE, OAK, POA, ESSENTIALLY THEY SEND OUT INFORMATIONS TO ALL NEIGHBORHOODS.
EVERY SUBDIVISION, EVERY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BELONGS TO STONE, OAK, POA.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION SURE.
UM, I, I MIGHT HAVE JUST MISSED THIS, BUT THIS VENUE WOULD BE FOR ANYBODY TO RENT IT OUT AS FAR AS CORPORATIONS, UH, DOWN TO SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO HAVE A QUINCEANERA AT YES, ABSOLUTELY.
IF YOU HAVE YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS, IF YOU HAVE A QUINCEANERA, PLEASE CONSIDER OUR FACILITY.
BUT WE ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO ALSO, UH, THE TYPE OF EVENTS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE, UH, NOT JUST FOR THE CENTER ITSELF, BUT ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
I MEAN, ME PERSONALLY, MY FAMILY, MAYBE WE'LL JUST HAVE IN THE BACKYARD OR IF WE GO FANCY, WE'LL GIVE YOU A HUGE DISCOUNT.
COMMISSIONER GROWING UP ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN.
MAYBE WE'LL HAVE IT AT A COMANCHE PARK, BUT, BUT IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.
WE ALSO HAVE FREE ACTIVITIES THAT WE PLANNED, UH, CULTURAL RELATED HERITAGES ALSO EXHIBITIONS.
SO I WOULD EXTEND THE INVITATION TO ALL ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO PLEASE JOIN US.
AND ALSO OUR, UM, GROUND GROUNDBREAKING EVENT IS IN ON JUNE THE FIFTH.
BY THE WAY, IF I, IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO RECOGNIZE DR.
UH, MELINDA RODRIGUEZ, WHO IS THE SECRETARY OF OUR, UH, OUR ORGANIZATION.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT? SEEING NONE.
UH, THE FLOOR IS, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER DOBEL TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
UH, I THINK THIS WILL BE A WELCOME ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND REALLY IS A, A PRETTY EXCELLENT USE FOR THE LAND.
I CAN'T IMAGINE WITH THE EXISTING ZONING, WHAT BETTER USE FOR THIS SPACE.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I, UH, MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UM, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER DUVALL OF ITEM NUMBER TWO WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA DISCUSSION LEFT.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, UH, TRY TO FIND COMMISSIONER HUEY IF WE CAN.
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UM, ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE AND THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA START WITH STAFF AS WE SHOULD.AND THE TIME IS, UH, TWO, I'M SORRY, ONE 30.
AND COMMISSIONER HUEY HAS RETURNED TO THE MEETING.
I'M GONNA SPEAK SLOWLY, CONTAIN MY
I AM THE PLANNING MANAGER OF THE ZONING DIVISION.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MF 33 TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
15 NOTICES WERE MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
THE EXISTING MF 33 IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO IS ALSO APPROPRIATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN A CLUSTER OF ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL BASED ZONING DISTRICTS, ENSURING THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING CONTEXT.
THE REQUEST RE SEEKS TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE SPACE, OFFICE SPACE, WHICH SERVES AS A LOGICAL EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING CORRIDOR.
FURTHERMORE, THE PROPERTY'S LOCATION ALONG S 2 2 81 PROVIDES DIRECT ACCESS TO MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, EFFECTIVELY CHANNELING COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC TOWARDS THE PROPERTY AND MAINTAINING A CLEAR BUFFER FROM NEARBY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
SAS IS HERE TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MIKE ESCALANTE WITH SAS AQUIFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION.
REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED NORTH OF REDLAND ROAD AND, UH, US HIGHWAY 2 81 NORTH INTERSECTION, ALLOWING FOR A COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
THE SITE IS, UH, TWO UNDEVELOPED LOTS DIVIDED BY AN ASPHALT DRIVEWAY WITH, UH, NATIVE TREES AND UNDERSTORY VEGETATION ON 9.32 ACRES.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED AS A CATEGORY ONE.
THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE WILL CONSIST OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE DEVELOPMENT WITH PARKING AREAS.
NO PORTION OF THE SITE IS IN A FLOODPLAIN AND NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES WERE OBSERVED ON SITE.
WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ALL ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE SAS REPORT TO INCLUDE ALLOWING 65% PREVIOUS COVER ON THE OVERALL 9.32 ACRE TRACK.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
HI, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
ASHLEY FAIRMONT WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE.
WE'RE REQUESTING C TWO ON THIS PROPERTY.
UH, IT MAY BE FAMILIAR TO SOME OF YOU WHO WERE HERE A FEW YEARS AGO.
UM, I, I WAS HERE REZONING THE PROPERTY FROM C3 AT THE TIME TO MULTIFAMILY.
UH, THAT PROJECT WAS NEVER BUILT.
AND SO NOW WE'RE HERE REQUESTING C TWO ZONING TO ALLOW FOR MEDICAL OFFICE.
UM, JUST A QUICK, UH, SO, AND JUST TO NOTE, THE, THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS A CHURCH.
UH, THE CHURCH'S DRIVEWAY DOES GO THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE.
SO FOR THAT, UM, DRIVEWAY, I'LL SHOW YOU ON THE SITE PLAN, WE'RE PROPOSING TO SHIFT IT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THE CHURCH HAS TO AGREE TO THAT AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT.
AND THEY DID, UH, RETURN THEIR NOTICE IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING.
UM, I'M JUST GO THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR WHAT WOULD BE PHASE ONE, TWO STORY MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.
UH, AND THEN AGAIN, THAT DRIVEWAY THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE SITE.
UH, ONCE THAT IS BUILT, THEN THERE WOULD BE A SECOND PHASE ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE TRACT.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A DISTRICT NINE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER DUVALL TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS, UH, ON THE STAFF REPORT.
COULD, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE SLIDES OF THE STAFF REPORT? UM, I WAS TRYING TO ORIENT MYSELF WHEN WE WERE SEEING SOME OF THOSE PHOTOS AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE UP, UH, ON THE HIGHER SLIDES, LIKE NUMBER SEVEN, EIGHT.
HOW ABOUT 10? YOU CAN START AT 10.
SO I, UM, SO LIKE THAT ONE I'M NOT, COULD YOU HELP ME WITH ORIENTATION? I'M NOT, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHERE, WHEN I WAS LOOKING ON GOOGLE MAPS, I'M JUST TRYING TO ORIENT MYSELF WHERE, WHERE IS THIS LOOKING FROM? MUST BE CAN YOU OH, WHO'S, WHO'S IS THIS? OH, WHO DID SITE VISITS ON THIS ONE?
UH, SO YEAH, SOME OF THE PHOTOS, I JUST WASN'T SURE WHAT, UM, WHETHER IT REFLECTED, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD THAT, I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO BE THE RIGHT, SO FROM WHAT I REMEMBER ON SITE VISITS THAT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE PLACED THE SIGNAGE? WE PLACED THE SIGNAGE
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ON THE ROAD HIGHER UP.THE SHOPPING CENTER IS LIKE WITHIN THAT PARKING AREA.
SO YOU SEE THE DRIVEWAY BEHIND MY HAND.
I, I I CAN'T SEE ON THE SCREEN HAND, HAND OFF
MAYBE WE COULD LOOK ON GOOGLE MAPS, JUST, UH, TO, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE I, I SEE A DRIVEWAY GOING TO THE CHURCH, BUT I DON'T, I CAN'T IDENTIFY THE SHOPPING CENTER.
UH, WHILE, WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE, WHILE STAFF IS LOOKING, IF I COULD ASK THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, UM, THE, UH, I COULD SEE EXISTING SIGNAGE MM-HMM
UM, ON THE ACCESS ROAD FOR THE CHURCH.
UM, HAS, HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE CHURCH WHETHER SIGNAGE WOULD BE PERMITTED OR THERE'S NO INTENT TO MOVE IT? NO INTENT TO MOVE IT.
AND THEN I, I MEAN, THE OTHER THING IS IT, IT LOOKED SOMEWHAT TEMPORARY, SO YES.
HOW WOULD THAT BE APPROACHED IF, IF THEY WANTED TO? UM, IT SEEMS TO BE A PRETTY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
IT'S WITH THE EASEMENT, UM, AND BEING NEIGHBORS AND THE WAY THAT THE CHURCH SITS UP BEHIND.
UM, SO IF, IF THEY DID NEED TO MOVE ANY SIGNAGE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ASK.
AND THEN, UH, UH, THE, THAT ONE DRIVEWAY LOOKS TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN ENTRANCE, RIGHT? THERE'S VISIBILITY TO THE CHURCH FROM THE ACCESS ROAD, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ANOTHER, UM, ACCESS ROAD TO THE SOUTH.
UM, IS, IS THAT IMPACT YOUR GUYS' PROJECT OR IS THAT OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AREA? NO, IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE PROJECT.
I MEAN, IT COULD, WOULD STILL STAY AS IS.
AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND PHASE TO THE NORTH, THIS ZONING ONLY WOULD PERMIT, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE BOTTOM HALF OF THAT PARCEL, RIGHT? NO, WE'RE REQUESTING C TWO FOR THE WHOLE SITE.
AND, UH, BUT I'M SORRY, THIS WAS JUST C TWO, THERE WASN'T A CD OR ANYTHING, RIGHT? NOPE.
SO TO OTHER STAFF, MAYBE I COULD ASK WHAT OTHER THINGS, 'CAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ZONING IN ON THE, UH, THE, UH, MEDICAL OFFICE USE.
WHAT OTHER USES WOULD BE ALLOWED IN C TWO BY RIGHT ON THE TOP PART OF THE PARCEL? I MEAN, C TWO WOULD SUPPORT A VARIETY OF, UH, KIND OF MEDIUM INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROVISIONS OF SB EIGHT 40 WOULD NOT APPLY TO THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S LOCATED WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 2 81.
SO IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY DENSITY ALLOWANCE IN THIS CASE.
UM, BUT C TWO IS LARGELY, UH, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL OFFICES, OFFICE BUILDINGS, RESTAURANTS, LIGHT RETAIL, THOSE SORTS OF USES.
AND, UH, AND THEN, UH, SO THEN SORRY, FOR, FOR, FOR STAFF ON THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PHOTOS, DID WE, WE COME TO A RESOLUTION OF, YEAH.
SO WHAT'S CURRENTLY UP, UM, ALL THAT VACANT SPACE IS WHAT THE SITE IS.
I'M ASSUMING WE PUT IT CLOSER TO THE SHOPPING CENTER, TO THE NORTH.
ARE, ARE THERE, I MEAN, NOT TO CAUSE PROBLEMS, BUT NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
DOES THAT, IS THERE A REQUIREMENT OF HOW CLOSE IT HAS TO BE TO THE PARCEL? IS THAT, ARE YOU ASKING JUST IS THE, THE PROPERTY, THE SIGN WOULD NEED TO BE ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S, UM, SOMETIMES THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS ON THE PROPERTY THAT MAKE THAT CHALLENGING.
I I I'M JUST SAYING IF, IF THE SIGN WAS PLACED IN THE SHOPPING CENTER TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY, IS THAT A ISSUE OR, UH, I'M, I'M NOT TOO SURE WHAT YEAH, IT, IT'S OUR, IT'S NOT IN THE SHOPPING CENTER.
SO IF YOU SEE TO THE NORTH, THERE'S LIKE A DRIVEWAY.
THE PROPERTY STARTS OVER HERE.
I SEE WHERE THE AUTO ZONE WAS.
IS THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? I, I WOULD BELIEVE SO, YES.
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GREAT.THANK, THANK YOU GUYS FOR LOOKING INTO THAT.
QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? YOU ASK COMMISSIONER? WHAT'S THAT? UH, QUICK QUESTION.
I JUST HEARD, UH, MR. SPARROW SAY THAT THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY ZONING CAN'T BE, THEY CAN'T BUILD MULTIFAMILY ON THE SITE BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER THAN A THOUSAND FEET.
SO THAT, THAT WAS THE PROVISION OF MULTI-FAMILY BAN, OR NO, SORRY, MR. SPARROW.
SO AS YOU MAY RECALL, IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE PASSED SB EIGHT 40, WHICH SAYS THAT ANY TRACT OF LAND ZONED OFFICE COMMERCIAL IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
THE, THE HIGHEST MULTIFAMILY DENSITY THAT THE CITY HAS ON FILE FOR US.
UNLESS, AND THEY ADOPTED EXCEPTIONS, IT DOES NOT APPLY TO PROPERTY WITHIN 1000 FEET OF A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE.
THERE IS A QUARRY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 2 81.
SO THIS PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THAT PROVISION.
SO WHAT'S DEFINED AS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, JUST QUARRY OR, UH, I TWO OR ANYTHING INVOLVING EXPLOSIONS? UH, OTHER, IT'S DEFINED IN THE STATUTE.
IT, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE EXPLOSIONS.
ANYTHING THAT WOULD INCREASE, UH, SMELLS OR OTHER YEAH, SORT OF POLLUTANTS EFFECTIVELY.
I I WAS GONNA SAY IN THE LAW, I THINK IT'S DEFINED, IT'S VERY BROADLY DEFINED AS ANY USE THAT EMITS ODORS, NOISES, VAPORS, ET CETERA.
I, I COULD GET THE ACTUAL DEFINITION, BUT IT'S IN THE BILL, BUT IT IS AN SB EIGHT 40 AND IT'S A DEFINED TERM WITHIN THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? ALRIGHT.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT NINE CASE COMMISSIONER VO TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
I'LL MOVE TO, UM, RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WOOD WHO? KELLUM.
UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE BY COMMISSIONER DUVALL WITH THE SECOND BY KELLUM, UH, DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT.
SEEING NONE DISCUSSION TO MY RIGHT.
UH, WE ARE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE PLEASE.
AND THANK YOU TO SAS FOR COMING.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, MY NAME'S FOREST WILSON, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS LOCATED AT 1139.
NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY IS A REQUEST FROM C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UM, AND, AND THEY, UH, BELIEVE THEY HAVE AN AMENDED REQUEST TO C TWO CD FOR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
FOUR NOTICES RECEIVED IN FAVOR, FAVOR ZERO OPPOSED.
THE QUINTANA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET, UH, THERE WERE 24 NOTICES RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
UM, THE CURRENT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C3 CURRENTLY AMENDED TO C TWO CD IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY MAINTAINS A SPLIT ZONING OF C TWO AND C3 C TWO PORTION SERVES AS A BUFFER PROVIDING A MORE APPROPRIATE TRANSITION TO THE ACTIVE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, UH, THAN A C3 BASE DISTRICT WOULD.
WHILE C3 ZONING DOES EXIST ALONG NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY, THESE PROPERTIES ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE KELLY SLASH SOUTH SAN PUEBLO COMMUNITY PLAN ADOPTED IN FEBRUARY, 2007, WHICH DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL EXPANDING, UM, TO C3 ZONING WOULD PERMIT THE HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES THAT COULD BE COMPATIBLE, INCOMPATIBLE, AND DETRIMENTAL TO THE ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR C3 AND THERE AMENDING TWO C TWO CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND IT IS MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
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FULL SERVICE.YOU SAID FULL SERVICE
DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE? OKAY.
AND IF WE COULD GET INTERPRETATION SERVICES PLEASE.
LET'S KEEP YOU ON RESERVE JUST IN CASE.
ARE YOU GONNA SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, YES.
GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT.
MY NAME IS CARLOS ALAVA WITH ALAMO CONSULTING SERVICES AND I'M ASSISTING THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, MR. CARLOS JIMENEZ, UH, WITH HIS, UH, REZONING PROJECT.
AND, UH, YES, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE EXHIBIT, UM, WE CAN GO TO THE EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS THE DUAL ZONING.
I THINK THAT, UH, THERE'S, UH, A PORTION THAT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR C3 AND WHILE THE REST IS C TWO AND THAT'S PART THAT, THAT'S A PORTION THAT, UH, UM, MR. JIMENEZ IS, IS, IS TRYING TO REZONE.
HOWEVER, UH, WE WANT TO, BEFORE WE PROCEED ANY FURTHER, UM, HE, UH, UH, COORDINATED WITH, UH, THE, UH, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT IN TO, TO TRY TO COME TO, UM, A SOLUTION THAT WOULD BE MORE CONGRUENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SO, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT INSTEAD OF THE C3, UH, TO KEEP IT A C TWO CONDITIONAL CD FOR THE SPECIFIC USE OF, UM, CONDITIONAL USE OF, UH, AUTO, AUTO SALES AND AUTO REPAIRS.
AND I'M JUST GONNA AGAIN REPEAT THAT REALLY QUICKLY.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU ARE OFFICIALLY AMENDING YOUR REQUEST FROM C3 TO C TWO WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
HOW LONG HAS HAVE Y'ALL BEEN IN ON THIS PROPERTY? UH, UH, SINCE 2022 AND 2022, I APPLIED ON THE CITY FOR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND I, AND IT'S APPROVED.
I ALREADY HAVE MY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, BUT BY THE END OF THE, BY THE END OF THE, THE LAST YEAR 2025, I TRIED TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE, ON MY, ON MY BUSINESS AND THE CITY TELL ME, HEY, YOU HAVE TO FIX THE, THE BACK AREA TO TO C3 BECAUSE, UH, RIGHT THERE.
SO YOU'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2022 AND I STILL WORKING.
HEY, YOU HAVE CAR SELL IT? YEAH, BECAUSE I, I STILL IN THE BUSINESS.
I, I JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2022 OR BEFORE? 2020.
AND THIS CURRENT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ISSUED BY DSZ IS DISPLAYED THERE SINCE 2023.
IF HE, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE, SIR? UH, YEAH, SORRY.
UH, I, I SAY I, I, I'M THERE FROM SI SINCE 2022 AND I APPLY ON 2022, BUT I PASSED ALL THE INSPECTIONS ON JANUARY 26TH, 2023.
CAN I CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO? YES.
HE WAS GRANTED A C OF O FOR THE C3 PORTION, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT MAP THAT THE C TWO KIND OF BUFFERS THAT AND HE HAD EXPANDED INTO THE C TWO SECTION, WHICH WAS AN ISSUE.
WHY IS STAFF DENYING THIS? UH, THE, THE BIGGEST REASON IS THE UNDERLYING LAND USE DESIGNATION, UH, DOES NOT MATCH THAT USE.
PLUS THE KIND OF USE WE FEEL IS TOO, UM, INTENSE INTENTS STATING THAT IT'S NEIGHBORING THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHOUT PROPER BUFFER OR ANYTHING.
IF YOU LOOK ALONG THE CORRIDOR, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES THERE HAVE AN UNDERLYING LAND USE DESIGNATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH C3.
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I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
COMMISSIONER HESO, UH, HOW LONG HAS HE OWNED THE PROPERTY? SINCE 2022.
UH, AND STAFF? DO WE WHO, WHO'S THE DO MANAGER? IS IT OH, FOR WHO OWNED IT BEFORE, PRIOR TO THIS? WHAT, WHAT WAS IT? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN A C3? THAT THAT PARTICULAR PART? I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
YEAH, IT, IT WOULD GET CONVERTED.
UM, SO THAT C3 WAS A B THREE, SO SINCE, UH, THE, THAT WAS ALWAYS THE ORIGINAL ZONING OF B THREE, BUT IT CONVERTED IN 2001 TO C3.
AND THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT, UH, LOOKS LIKE IT'S NORTH OF IT, THE OTHER CD PROPERTY, UH, UH, AT THE CORNER? YEAH.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS THAT? I I CURRENTLY DO YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY C3, BUT THE QUESTION IS LIKE C3, THE PROPERTY AT THE CORNER GOING NORTH, NOT ON PRICE, BUT THE OTHER, WHAT IS IT ABOVE IT? MC UH, WITH NEW LAREDO AND MCLAUGHLIN? YES.
UM, THAT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A TAX PREPARATION OFFICE THERE.
I I MAKE A LEASE FOR ALL MY HOLD ON, SIR.
AND THEN FURTHER UP IS, IS THERE ANOTHER, 'CAUSE WHEN I VISUALLY, WHEN I, LIKE WHEN I LOOK AT NEW LORETO HIGHWAY, LIKE WHEN I DRIVE DOWN THERE, TO ME IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THIS WOULD BE A OUT AN OUTLIER, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE PROPERTIES, I MEAN, I COULD BE WRONG, OR C3 ACROSS THE HIGHWAY AS WELL.
NOT THE HIGHWAY, BUT NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY STREET.
AM I, AM I CORRECT IN BASICALLY ALL ALONG NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY IS C3.
AND THEN THE REASON WHY CITY WAS SEEKING DENIAL WAS BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTIES TO, TO THE NORTH OF IT.
THAT, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ON, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF IT.
WELL, AGAIN, WE DO TAKE LAND USE PRINCIPLES INTO NOTICE AND AS FOREST DID STATE, THIS PROPERTY IS PART OF A, A PLAN AND IT IS ALL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH ACTUALLY IS NOT, THEY WOULD LIKE NOTHING HIGHER THAN C ONE ALONG NEW LAREDO.
I GET IT THAT THERE IS EXISTING C3, BUT THAT WAS THE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED.
AND SO, UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WERE TAKING INTO AN ACCOUNT.
AND THEN ALSO, AGAIN, HOW IT IS A BUDDING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WE FELT THAT IT WAS OUT OF CHARACTER AND OUT OF PLACE.
WE ALSO WANT TO MENTION NO, SIR, UNLESS YOU ASK A QUESTION.
UH, LET ME, LET ME ASK HIM, UH, WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY, SIR? YEAH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WAS VERY DILIGENT IN COMMUNICATING THIS TO THE NEIGHBORS AND HE HAS 31 SIGNATURES IN SUPPORT OF HIS REQUEST.
AND THEN, I'M SORRY, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR CITY.
UM, THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, UM,
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT? QUESTIONS LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER DOVE THOSE, UH, 31 LETTERS OR, OR SIGNATURES? DO, DO YOU HAVE IT? YES, SIR.
DO YOU HAVE A COPY? YES, I GOT EVERYTHING.
COULD WE, CAN WE SEE IT? YES, THOSE ARE, THOSE WERE SHARED ALREADY.
THEY WERE SHARED IN OUR, UM, EMAIL THIS MORNING TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
BUT COULD, COULD WE STILL SEE IT? YES.
I, I MEAN, I, I THINK IN THE PRESENTATION RIGHT, WE DIDN'T GET ANY LETTERS.
I THINK THE STAFF, UH, POWERPOINT SAID NO, UH, RESPONSES IN SUPPORT, NO RESPONSES OPPOSED, RIGHT.
THO THE, THESE WERE JUST IDENTIFIED EARLY THIS MORNING, SO WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO UPDATE THAT.
UM, BUT YEAH, I, I, I'D STILL BE INTERESTED.
SEEING IT, UM, THE, UH, WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE GETTING THAT, UM, THE, OH, YOU'VE GOT IT.
WE WEREN'T ABLE TO CONFIRM RIGHT.
STAFF WASN'T ABLE TO CONFIRM THE, UH, OR, OR WERE YOU GUYS ABLE TO IN TIME? YEAH, WE, WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH THESE AND SEE WHICH ONES WERE WITHIN 200 FEET AND WHAT, UH, WE FOUND WERE FOUR THAT WERE, UH, WITHIN 200 FEET AND 24 WERE OUTSIDE.
UH, ABOUT THE, UH, PUEBLO COMMUNITY PLAN, IS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE ELEMENT? I THINK IT'S, OR THE, THE KELLY SOUTH SAN PUEBLO COMMUNITY PLAN? YES.
UH, SO IT WAS UPDATED IN 2007 WITH SA TOMORROW.
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ANOTHER RUN ON IT THERE? YEAH.UM, SO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S WORKING ON, BUT, UM, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEEN UPDATED.
UH, THE, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A REALLY, UH, IN INCONSISTENT THE, UH, EXISTING LAND USE PATTERNS WITH THE KIND OF ASPIRATIONS.
UM, HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT? LIKE EVERY LOT, EVERY, EVERY USE ON NEW LAREDO HIGHWAY IS GONNA BE NON-CONFORMING.
HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT WORK ESSENTIALLY WITH THE EXISTING PLAN? YES.
IN A PERFECT WORLD, UM, DEFINITELY WHEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS THESE PLANS ADOPTED, THEY WOULD GO IN AND DO LARGE REZONINGS TO REZONE THE PROPERTIES TO MATCH THAT LAND USE.
BUT AGAIN, WE ARE JUST GONNA HAVE TO PICK AND CHOOSE AND THAT'S WHERE WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS ON, UH, LAND USE.
WHAT IS PROPOSED, THE CONTEXT SURROUNDING USES.
SO YEAH, I, OH, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE JOB OF, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, YOU KNOW, IS TO HAVE, HAVE DEBATES OVER THE RIGHT USE AND EXISTING USES.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAN FOR PLANNING STAFF AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE COUNCIL MEMBER STAFF TO GET OUT THERE AND SPEAK WITH THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A, A GOOD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
'CAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT IT NOW, IT'S, UH, IT, IT'S HARD TO FATHOM HOW
OR, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM NEIGHBORS.
I'M GONNA PRESUME AT LEAST SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS.
SO I'M WONDERING LIKE, WHO, WHO WAS PARTICIPATING IN THOSE PUBLIC OUTREACH IN 2007, WHO, YOU KNOW, WHOSE VOICE WAS SO STRONG TO SAY, GET RID OF ALL THESE BUSINESSES? YEAH, WE CAN'T, I CAN'T DO THAT.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, LIKE, LIKE KELLY MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE DO STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING THAT CLOSE TO THE RESIDENCES BEHIND THAT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER WHATSUP QUESTION.
UH, I THINK, UH, KELLY, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT PROPER BUFFER.
UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WAS THERE WAS NOT A PROPER BUFFER BETWEEN THE C3 AND THE HOUSES.
WHAT IS PROPER BUFFER AND IF THEY ADDED A BUFFER, WOULD THAT MAKE IT MORE SUPPORTABLE? I MEAN A BUFFER, A REQUIRED BUFFER FOR ANY BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU HAVE A C3 USE A BUDDING, SOME, UH, RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE BASICALLY ABOUT A TYPE C 15 FOOT BUFFER.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, UM, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING ALSO.
UM, THOSE ARE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ITEMS. ALSO ANY, UM, WALL WOULD HAVE TO BE PROPOSED.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE FOR A BRAND NEW STRUCTURE, NOT SOMETHING THAT IS EXISTING.
IT'S, THEY'RE EXISTING, SO THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR A ZONING SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD A WALL.
WHEN YOU SAY A WALL, WHAT'S THE, A SIX FOOT BARRIER? LIKE A SIX FOOT SOLID FENCE FENCE.
AND A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE ON THE LAND THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL, THAT IS CURRENT CODE FOR, AGAIN, LIKE A C3 BASED ZONING ABUTTING SOMETHING OF A RESIDENTIAL NATURE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER SIPES LOOKING, LOOKING AT GOOGLE STREET VIEW, UM, JUST TRYING TO UM, UNDERSTAND WHEN THINGS WERE, WERE DONE.
I, I SEE THAT IN 2019 THERE WAS AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE AND THEN BY 2024 THERE WAS A, UM, WHAT APPEARS TO BE A GARAGE, YOU KNOW, MULTI-CAR GARAGE BUILT.
AND I'M, AS I I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS THE C OF O ISSUED FOR THE, THE BUILDING.
WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY AT, IN 2019 OR WAS IT ISSUED FOR THE GARAGE IN THE BACK? THAT SEEMS LIKE RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
I COULDN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN ABOUT THE CFO, WHICH BUILDING IT WAS MEANT FOR.
BUT AGAIN, WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THAT, THEY SAW THE C3 SECTION, BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN IF THEY CHECKED THAT.
STAFF, THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE.
DO WE NEED A SITE PLAN? YES, WE DO HAVE A SITE PLAN AND THEY'VE GOT THE, UH, SITE PLAN THAT WAS, UM, PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THERE SHOULD BE ONE THERE IN THE PRESENTATION.
WELL IT'S, IT'S BEEN AMENDED TO A CONDITIONAL USE.
THIS IS NO LONGER A REQUEST FOR C3.
IT HAS BEEN AMENDED TO C TWO CED WITH MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE.
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NOW, STAFF, YOU MENTIONED THAT IF THIS WERE A NEW BUILD WE COULD, UM, THE BUFFERS WOULD BE REQUIRED BY CODE IF WE WANTED TO, WE COULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO PUT BUFFERS IN AT THIS POINT, CORRECT.UH, LET'S DO ONE MORE ROUND OF QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT.
UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT FOUR CASE COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UH, BECAUSE HE'S BEEN THERE FOR FOUR YEARS.
UH, HE DOES HAVE, UH, LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
UM, AND I'M GONNA REQUEST THAT THEY DO PUT THE BUFFERS, UH, THE SIX FOOT FENCE AND THE LANDSCAPING.
I, I JUST WANTED TO, OH SORRY LOGAN.
YEAH, JUST FORESHADOWING A COUPLE ISSUES.
SO THE BUFFER THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED WOULD BE ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW, NUMBER ONE, WHAT IS THE DEPTH OF THAT BUFFER.
BUT EVEN AT THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCATION OF THE MAIN BUILDING AND AT LEAST ONE ACCESSORY BUILDING, IT'S IN THE BUFFER.
THE CODE SAYS WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THE DEPTH OF THE BUFFER, BUT IT CAN NEVER BE REDUCED BY MORE THAN 50%.
SO IF IT IS A TYPE C BUFFER THAT'S 15 FOOT DEEP, IF THOSE ARE PARKING SPACES, THOSE ARE 18 FEET DEEP.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT ROUTE, IS WE GET A CONTINUANCE AND GET A SITE PLAN THAT THIS COMMISSION CAN REVIEW THAT HAS A PRAYER OF MEETING CODE.
SO, UM, ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA, I THINK, PUT A PIN IN THAT FOR RIGHT NOW.
FIRST OFF, WOULD YOU AGREE TO THE BUFFER AND OR A CONTINUANCE TO LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN AND GET THE BUFFER IN PLACE? I WAS GONNA SAY IF THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE IS THERE, I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW A BUFFER WOULD BE POSSIBLE.
THE, THE OWNER HAS AGREED TO, UH, WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP TO A SOLUTION ON THE BUFFER.
SOME OF US ARE DEEPLY SKEPTICAL.
CHAIR, CHAIR, I'M GONNA REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA START OVER HERE
SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION BUT I UH, SHOULD HAVE ASKED SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS MYSELF.
UH, COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN THAT? ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RIGHT? UH, ANYONE ON THE LEFT? COMMISSIONER ELL AND THEN COMMISSIONER SIPES.
UH, CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE POINT ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL, UM, CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR BUFFER.
IT SEEMS PECULIAR TO ME THAT THE TWO OUTCOMES COULD BE NO BUFFER OR A FULL BUFFER.
IT SEEMS PECULIAR THAT THE CODE WOULD NOT ALLOW A PARTIAL BUFFER OVER SAY PART OF THE AREAS AND NOT OVER OTHER AREAS.
CAN YOU GIVE MORE CONTEXT TO THAT? SO WHAT YOU ARE ALLUDING TO IS EXACTLY WHY I THINK THE CONTINUANCE IS APPROPRIATE.
SO WE CAN COME UP WITH A SITE PLAN THAT MAYBE SHOWS THE PROVISION OF A BUFFER ALONG SOME OF THE PROPERTY.
'CAUSE WHAT THE CODE SAYS TODAY, UH, IS THAT WHEN PROVIDING A REQUIRED BUFFER YARD, JUST, WE'LL KEEP MATH SIMPLE.
LET'S SAY IT HAS TO BE 20 FEET DEEP.
YOU CAN DO 30 FEET DEEP IN SOME AREAS, 10 FEET DEEP IN OTHERS SO THAT IT AVERAGES OUT.
BUT YOU CAN NEVER REDUCE THE REQUIRED DEPTH BY MORE THAN HALF.
SO WHERE THAT BUILDING IS, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SHRUNK BY 90%, WHICH IS NOT CODE COMPLIANT.
SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH AN ALTERNATIVE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS SOME SORT OF A BUFFER, EVEN IF IT'S 10 FOOT ALONG SECTIONS OF THAT NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, MAYBE COMPENSATE THAT WITH EIGHT FOOT TALL FENCING AND OTHER AREAS.
JUST SOME ALTERNATIVE THAT'S GONNA PASS MUSTER AT PLAN REVIEW.
AND THEN IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THEN WE WOULD NOT AT THAT POINT BECAUSE IT'S INCORPORATED IN THE SITE PLAN, EVEN REQUIRE CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
'CAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE, AT THE CONDITIONS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SIPES, WELL WE CAN GO.
SORRY, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK STAFF TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT AT THE NORTHERN PART OF THAT BECAUSE I SEE DIMENSIONS AND I WAS WONDERING IF, IF THAT WOULD,
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IT'S JUST DIFFICULT.ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SLABS.
ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S A GOOD REASON TO MOVE ON TO A CONTINUANCE, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ WANTS TO DO.
COMMISSIONER, WHAT UP? UH, SO THE EXISTING METAL BUILDING THAT'S BUILT IS 6.7 FEET AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 10 FOOT BUFFER.
SO ITS THERE, I THINK IT MIGHT BE A STANDARD THERE.
SO THAT'S WITHIN A FOOT AND TH TWO INCHES OR SOMETHING.
UH, AND THEN THE PORTABLE BUILDING COULD BE MOVED.
UH, NOW I BUT ON OTHERWISE, THIS IS A, THE PROPOSED, WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING WAS THE CD C TWO CD.
WOULD THAT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM TOO? OR Y'ALL WERE DENYING THE CD? UH, WE, WE WERE DENYING THE C3.
WE, WE COULD CERTAINLY HELP THEM COME UP WITH A SITE PLAN THAT WOULD BE COMPLIANT, BUT WE STILL RECOMMEND DENIAL OF PUTTING WHAT IS ULTIMATELY A C3 USE, CONDITIONED OR OTHERWISE IN THIS LOCATION.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT? ALL RIGHT.
THIS TIME I MEAN IT, WE'RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HERE.
YOU WANT ME TO SIT DOWN? COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? UM, I, I DIDN'T LET YOU FINISH YOUR MOTION.
SO CURRENTLY I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANY MOTION PENDING.
UH, SO YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
I'M GONNA TAKE STAN'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR CONTINUANCE SO THAT THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH, UH, AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD WORK FOR THEM.
AND THAT CONTINUANCE IS TO JUNE 2ND? YES.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 2ND FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
UM, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
MOTIONS FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE TO JUNE 2ND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER UVL.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
WE'LL SEE YOU IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
WORKS WITH STAFF TO FIGURE OUT THAT SITE PLAN ISSUE.
DO WE SEE THE APPLICANT FOR NUMBER SEVEN? HAVE WE SPOKEN TO THEM? THIS MIGHT BE MY FAULT.
IS THE APPLICANT FOR NUMBER SEVEN HERE? ALRIGHT, I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MISCOMMUNICATION.
I SAW THE APPLICANT FOR NUMBER SEVEN, UH, TWO SATURDAYS AGO.
UH, PLEASE READ IT INTO THE RECORD.
FOREST WILSON, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM EVERETT SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 28 14.
VERACRUZ STREET IS A REQUEST FROM R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO IDZ THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
49 NOTICES WERE MAILED ZERO UH, IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED THE EL CHARO AND BRADY GARDENS NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED IDZ THREE HIGH INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR UNITS, UH, IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
EITHER THE PROPERTY'S SIZE DOES NOT CURRENTLY MEET THE MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR AN R FOUR DISTRICT, BUT COULD BE EXEMPT FROM LOT STANDARDS SINCE IT WAS DEVELOPED BEFORE THE ZONING STANDARDS WERE ADOPTED.
A REQUEST FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WOULD REPRESENT EXCESSIVE DENSITY FOR AN ALREADY UNDERSIZED LOT.
FURTHERMORE, ALL IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED AND UTILIZED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
WHILE THE FLEXIBILITY OF IDZ IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, INTRODUCING THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY WOULD INCREASE TRAFFIC ON A LOCAL STREET SITUATED IN THE HEART OF AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND I DON'T THINK THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
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ALRIGHT, THE LAST CALL FOR THE APPLICANT ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.ALRIGHT, UH, AGAIN, I BELIEVE THIS MIGHT BE MY FAULT.
I MET WITH THE APPLICANT ON SITE, UH, TWO SATURDAYS AGO.
UH, WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND I THINK PERHAPS BETWEEN MY OWN ACTIONS AND UH, THE ABSENCE OF MR. GOMEZ, UH, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE.
SORRY, I AM MOVING FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE 2ND MEETING FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO JUNE 2ND BY ME CONT UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
ALRIGHT, UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11 PLEASE.
MY NAME IS SAMANTHA BENAVIDEZ, ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS LOCATED AT 2 23 EAST PETALUMA BOULEVARD.
GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO MF 18.
LIMITED INTENSITY AND MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT WAS ALL OVERLAY STAYING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 30 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN IN FAVOR, 12 OPPOSED HARLAND LUM UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
ONE OPPOSED? THE EXISTING R FOUR DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED MF 18 DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING TO ALLOW THREE DUPLEXES WHILE THEY INTEND TO DEVELOP A MINIMUM OF SIX UNITS.
THE ONE ACRE SITE COULD POTENTIALLY ACCOMMODATE UP TO 18 UNITS UNDER THE REQUESTED ZONING, WHICH EXCEEDS THE RECOMMENDED DENSITY FOR THE AREA.
MUCH OF THE SURROUNDING AREA CURRENTLY BENEFITS FROM THE BETA R FOUR CONVERSION UNDER UDC SECTION 35 DASH D 1 0 1 J, WHICH PERMITS A TWO FAMILY DUPLEX RESIDENCE.
DESPITE THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DESIGNATION.
AS AN ALTERNATIVE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A COMMERCIAL, UH, CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
THIS ALTERNATIVE WOULD MAINTAIN THE R FOUR BASE ZONING, ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT.
WHILE THE CONDITIONAL USE DESIGNATION WOULD ALLOW TO FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
THIS APPROACH WOULD REINSTATE THE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL THAT WOULD HAVE PERMITTED, WOULD HAVE BEEN PERMITTED, HAD THE PROPERTY REMAINED IN ITS PREVIOUS CONFIGURATION OF TWO SEPARATE LOTS WHILE MAINTAINING A DENSITY MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR FOUR CD FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS PENDING THE MAY 27TH, 2026 HEARING AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
BEFORE WE GET TO THE REPRESENTATIVE, I DO WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ LEFT AT TWO 11 AND IS RETURNING AT TWO 13.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE BOTH MICROPHONES, JUST ONE.
ELIZABETH RUSSELL, UM, LAW OFFICE OF ELIZABETH ANN RUSSELL 1 0 1 S STONEBERG, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 4.
UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE.
SO WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM, UM, THE LETTERS THAT, THE NOTICES THAT WERE SENT OUT JUST PRIOR TO THE LAST PLANNING, UM, MEETING THAT WAS SCHEDULED LAST WEEK.
SINCE THAT TIME WE ATTENDED THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AND ADDRESSED A LOT OF CONCERNS.
SO MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEEMS CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR BEING BUILT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE A MAJORITY OF THE CONCERNS.
UM, IF THERE WAS A WAY TO ASK FOR A LESS THAN MF 18 WE WOULD, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NOT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE STUCK WITH.
BUT WE WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WE GOT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THE NOTE NOTICES GOT SENT TO THE CITY BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, BUT WE GOT THEM AFTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
SO THERE'S JUST BEEN SOME TIMING ISSUES.
SO WE'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT.
I'D LIKE TO RESET FOR 30 DAYS BECAUSE WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY SOME STUFF TO WORK OUT WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AND, UM, THAT'S THE REQUEST, 30 DAY CONTINUANCE SO THAT WE CAN MEET WITH NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN, ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, REASSURE THAT IT IS NOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. RUSSELL.
AND SO I JUST WANNA SAY THE DATE WE WOULD HAVE IS JUNE 16TH.
IS THAT, LET ME CONFIRM 'CAUSE Y'ALL KNOW THAT I HAVE THIS VERY CRAZY SCHEDULE, BUT WE CAN,
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UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND MOVE ON.DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? AND MS. RUSSELL WILL CALL YOU BACK UP? YES.
UM, FIRST WE HAVE MS. RACHEL MARTINEZ, AND SHE'S TO BE FOLLOWED BY MS. RUBY RAMOS.
UH, IF ANYONE IS GIVING MS. MARTINEZ THEIR TIME, PLEASE SPEAK UP NOW.
MS. MARTINEZ, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, WOULD YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? UH, RACHEL MARTINEZ, 2 0 6 LANGFORD PLACE.
UH, I LIVE IN, I'VE LIVED IN THE RESIDENCE FOR 34 YEARS, UM, AND I'VE HAD, I HAVE A, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, A MULTI BEHIND ME.
TWO PEOPLE ON EITHER SIDE DON'T LIKE IT, HAVE HAD ISSUES FOREVER.
FINALLY, A SINGLE PERSON MOVED IN, THANK GOODNESS, AND THEY MOVED IT BACK TO A SINGLE HOME.
BUT WE DEALT WITH ISSUES FOR 15 YEARS.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A, A DUPLEX, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S FOUR UNITS.
YOU STILL HAVE THAT MANY PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH FOR THE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU ON THE SIDE OF YOU.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH ONE FAMILY.
IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH MULTIPLES.
IT, IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SO, I MEAN, LISTEN, SHE'S PLANNING ON MOVING INTO ONE OF THESE, HEY, GREAT IF SHE'S GONNA BE MY NEIGHBOR, BUT IF SHE'S NOT, THEN I, I DON'T, I DON'T AGREE WITH IT AND I DON'T WANT THIS.
I WISH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD GO BACK TO JUST A SINGLE RESIDENCE GRANDFATHER, WHOEVER'S IN THERE IN LIKE THAT, AND MOVE IT BACK TO JUST A SINGLE RESIDENCY WOULD BE MY MY WISH.
SO I JUST WANTED TO JUST VOICE MY OPINION ON THAT.
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, MS. RAMOS TO BE FOLLOWED BY JAMIE RAMOS.
MR. RAMOS, AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND WHAT YOU THINK.
MY ADDRESS IS TWO 15 EAST PETALUMA.
I WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE BILLED.
I'M AGAINST IT FOR THE SIMPLE REASON.
WE ALREADY HAVE DUPLEXES ON BOTH SIDES.
AND LET ME TELL YOU, THEY HAVE EX EXCHANGED HANDS SO MANY TIMES.
AND THE UPKEEP OF THESE RESIDENTS, NOBODY KEEPS TRACK OF ATTENDANCE.
THEY RENT 'EM OUT, THEY DON'T KEEP UP WITH THE PROPERTIES.
AND THEY GO, I HAVE PICTURES OF THESE DUPLEXES.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A FOURPLEX.
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL WHEN THEY BUILT THEM.
WHEN THEY STARTED, THEY'VE SOLD THEM THREE TIMES ALREADY FROM ONE HAND TO ANOTHER.
I KNOW THAT THE, THEY'RE BUILDING A SIXPLEX RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME.
BUILD IT AND THEY'RE GONNA SELL THAT OUTRIGHT.
WHO'S GONNA RUN THESE SIXPLEX? WHO'S GONNA CONTROL IT? WHO'S GONNA RENT 'EM OUT? WHOSE TENANT'S GONNA BE LIVING THERE? WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN THE, THE, THE LAND? NO, WE WANNA KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL.
WHY CAN'T THEY BUILD A RESIDENTIAL? CUT THE LAND.
BUILD ONE HERE, BUILD ONE HERE.
NO, THEY'RE DOING THEIR POCKETS.
WE DON'T NEED THAT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE.
I LIVE AT TWO 15 EAST PETALUMA.
I'M ALSO OPPOSED OF, UH, REZONING THIS AREA.
MOST OF EVERYBODY THAT LIVES AROUND THERE IS UP IN THEIR AGE.
THIS IS JUST GONNA BRING NOISE.
UH, IT, UH, IT, IT, IT BRINGS IN CRIME AND LIKE, UH, LIKE, LIKE THE PROPERTY SITS RIGHT NOW.
THE GRASS IS LIKE FIVE FEET TALL RIGHT NOW AND HE HAS NEVER CLEANED THAT, THAT PROPERTY.
SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK ONCE HE GETS HIS, UH, PROPERTY GOING OR WHATEVER, UH, WHATEVER HE'S GONNA BUILD, HE'S GONNA CARE ABOUT IT.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
MS. RUSSELL, DO YOU WANT A BRIEF REBUTTAL OR
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DO YOU WANT TO JUST, SO RESPECTFULLY, THE WAY PEOPLE USE THEIR PROPERTIES, THE AMERICAN WAY IS FOR PEOPLES TO GET TO CHOOSE HOW THEY, THEY GET TO UTILIZE THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TENANTS, BUT THE PROPOSAL IS NOT FOR TENANTS.
IT'S FOR THE CURRENT OWNER TO BUILD THREE DUPLEXES, SIX UNITS AND TO SELL THEM THE MARKET.
THE EXPECTATION IS FOR THE UNITS TO BE AROUND 300,000 A PIECE.
SO THE TYPE OF OWNER PURCHASING THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY AT A MORE EXPENSIVE RATE THAN THE AREA IS CURRENTLY SELLING AT.
SO A HIGHER INCOME LEVEL, BUT THERE IS NOT AN EXPECTATION OF PUTTING TENANTS IN THESE PROPERTIES.
I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO LIVE NEXT TO BEAUTIFUL THINGS.
AND UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WHETHER IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY OR SIX FAMILIES, WE CANNOT CONTROL THE WAY THAT PEOPLE MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY.
AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS THIS BODY IS MADE UP TO DO.
IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AREA STAYS SIMILAR TO WHAT IT ALREADY IS AND TO CONTINUE PROGRESSING AND TO WORK OUT SOME DISAGREEMENTS BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS AND POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS.
AND I GET THAT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S NO ONE THAT CAN GUARANTEE THAT A SINGLE FAMILY IS GONNA BE ANY BETTER THAN SIX FAMILIES.
I UNDERSTAND MORE, MORE NEIGHBORS EQUALS MORE PROBLEMS. UM, BUT MY CLIENT DOES EXPECT TO BE AT A HIGHER INCOME RATE, SO THAN THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT WERE SHOWN.
AND SO WE WOULD HOPE THAT, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE A MORE EXPENSIVE PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU'RE MORE WILLING TO MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT IT TO DEPRECIATE.
UM, WE ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS, BUT IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE SOME PEOPLE'S MINDS ARE ALREADY MADE UP.
UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TRY, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS A ONE, IT'S JUST OVER AN ACRE, 1.0 ACRE LOT.
AND SO THERE ARE OTHER DUPLEXES AS YOU HEARD IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO IT IS NOT OUTSIDE OF WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED AND HOW THE STRUCTURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY LOOKS LIKE.
UM, AND AGAIN, MY CLIENT ACTUALLY WANTED FOUR BUILDINGS OF EIGHT UNITS.
AND THIS WAS A COMPROMISE BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT GOING TO FLY.
UM, AND THE WAY THAT IT'S PROPOSED WITH A SITE PLAN, WHICH HAS BEEN SHARED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, PARKING WILL BE ALL INTERNAL.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A, A ROAD THAT WILL BE BUILT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PROPERTY SO THAT, UM, GUEST PARKING AND RESIDENT PARKING WILL BE ALL INTERNAL TO THE LOT.
SO TO NOT INCREASE TRAFFIC, TO NOT, UM, INCREASE JUST THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT WE, WE CAN ADDRESS ALL THOSE CONCERNS.
WE'LL ASK TO GO TO THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AS WELL AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
UH, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, UH, JUNE NOW, I'VE LOST MY PAPER.
AS LONG AS THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING IN JUNE.
I KNOW SOMETIMES THEY TAKE BREAKS IN THE SUMMER, SO I'LL REACH OUT RIGHT AWAY AND I'LL LET STAFF KNOW IF, BUT THAT WOULD BE OUR ONLY REQUEST IF OKAY.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, SO COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA TO YOU, UH, FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU MS. RUSSELL, REAL QUICK, UH, WHY ARE YOU COMING UP? UH, WHAT WAS THE ENGAGEMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY? DID YOU WALK, DID YOU TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS? SO YOU TALKED TO THESE PEOPLE OVER HERE? WE DIDN'T TALK TO THESE PEOPLE.
WE WENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION COMMUNITY AND THEN WE DID SOME, UM, BLOCK WALKING.
MY CLIENT SPECIFICALLY DID IT.
UM, AND SO AND DOES YOUR CLIENT LIVE IN, IN THE AREA OR ACROSS? NO, NO, NO.
SO, UM, MY ACTUAL CLIENT IS THE BUILDER, THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BUILD AND THEN MANAGE THE PROPERTY, UM, UNTIL IT'S SOLD TO COMPLETION.
UM, HER CLIENT IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
THE OWNER ACTUALLY LIVES IN MEXICO.
UH, AND THEN MS. MS, UH, ROMERO, CAN YOU COME UP HERE? I'M SORRY.
AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S, UH, EVERYBODY TO KNOW, THE HARLANDALE MCCOLLUM MEETING WILL BE JUNE 8TH, UH, AT THE, UH, CIVIC CENTER RIGHT THERE.
UH, MS. UH, ROMEDA, DID SOMEONE COME TO YOUR HOUSE TO TALK, UH, UH, ABOUT THE PROPERTY NEXT TO YOU? NO, I WENT TO EVERYBODY'S HOUSE.
AND THEN, UH, HAVE YOU, WERE YOU AT THE, UH, LAST UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING? NO, I WENT AND SPOKE TO BECKY MM-HMM
AND I SPOKE TO HER AND I TALKED TO THEM AND I'M GOING TO THE NEXT MEETING 'CAUSE I WASN'T AWARE OF HER MEETINGS.
UH, AND THEN QUESTION FOR, FOR STAFF.
UM, SO FOR MF 18, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE, UH, TOTAL MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED? UH, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE
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DEVELOPABLE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT ACREAGE, UH, AT THIS PARCEL.SO WHAT, WHAT COULD THEY BE? THE MAX? SO AT ONE ACRE THEY COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE 18 UNITS, GIVEN THAT THEY CAN DEVELOP IT IN, ADHERE TO ALL CITY STANDARDS BUILDING STANDARDS.
AND THEN, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION.
I'M SORRY, MS. RUSSELL, REAL QUICK.
UM, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET WITH MS. MS, UH, MS. BECKY, UH, RUIZ, UH, TO COME TALK TO THE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION MEETING, BUT DID YOU SAY YOUR, YOU OR YOUR CLIENT ARE GONNA COME OUT AND WALK AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT YOU GUYS ARE WANTING? MOST LIKELY MY CLIENT, UM, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, HOW MANY PEOPLE COME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT ARE ON THE LIST.
BUT HERE, HERE'S THE THING, HERE'S MY CONCERN AND YOU KNOW, ME, UH, CERTAIN ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, RIGHT.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEXT DOOR AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOSTLY IMPACTED.
AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE JOBS AND THEY CAN'T WORK OR THEY GOTTA TAKE CARE OF KIDS.
IT'S TOO LATE, TOO DARK TO TRAVEL.
UM, SO I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AFTER THE CONTINUOUS FOR TO, TO LET ME KNOW EITHER YOURSELF OR OR YOUR CLIENT HAS KNOCKED ON THOSE DOORS, THEY'RE NEIGHBORS, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR, RIGHT? I GUESS YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR TO HAVE ZONING, BUT GIVE US THAT OLIVE BRAND THAT SAYS YOU'VE DONE OUTREACH.
UM, AND WE LIVE IN AMERICA AND WE GET TO CHOOSE WHATEVER WE WANT.
AND I KNOW YOU WANNA SELL THESE, UH, PROPERTIES FOR, YOU KNOW, 300,000.
IS IT GONNA SELL? PROBABLY NOT, BUT THAT'S MY OPINION.
IT'LL SIT THERE UNTIL THEY WANT TO SELL IT FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND THEN WHO GOES IN? SOMEBODY WHO BUYS IT AND THEN WANTS TO RENT IT OUT.
AND THEN YOU GOT FOUR PLEXUS, SIX PLEXUS, WHATEVER YOU HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? SEEING NONE, QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT.
THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA GO BACKWARDS.
ALRIGHT, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OR ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION WAS A R FOUR CD FOR FOUR UNITS THAT SINCE IT'S A CD THAT WOULD REQUIRE A SITE PLAN THAT WOULD LOCK IN FOR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN HOW THE PARKING AND EVERYTHING IS DONE.
UM, THE, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IS IS WITH A R FOUR CD, UM, SINCE IT'S A ONE ACRE LOT, WHICH IS MORE THAN 4,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, 10 TIMES ALMOST 11 TIMES 43, 5 60? YEAH.
UM, YOU COULD NOT REPL THIS INTO MULTIPLE LOTS AND STILL GET ON EACH LOT AN R FOUR CD.
COULD YOU, UM, SO ULTIMATELY IT WOULD BE, THE CD WOULD BE FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT COULD BE HAD ON THE LOT.
SO EVEN IF THEY SUBDIVIDED, THEY WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT AMOUNT.
AND IN ADDITION TO IF IT'S OWNER OCCUPIED, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE AN A DU.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THE CD IS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
EVEN IF THEY SUBDIVIDED REPLANTED IT, UM, THEY WOULD ONLY BE PERMITTED THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT IS PART OF THIS ORDINANCE IF IT WAS APPROVED.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER WHATSUP, I GUESS MINE'S KIND OF ALONG THOSE SAME LINES WITH AN R FOUR, THEY COULD DO 10 UNITS, THEY COULD DO 10 LOTS, CORRECT? THEY COULD PLAT, REPL IT INTO 10 LOTS, CORRECT? UH, SO R FOUR, IS IT JUST ONE UNIT? IT'S NOT A DUPLEX.
IT'S NOT LIKE RM FOUR I THINK IS A DUPLEX, ISN'T IT? THE RM FOUR WOULD ALLOW UP TO FOUR UNITS ACTUALLY, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT.
THE R FOUR, WOULD IT JUST BE ONE SINGLE DWELLING UNIT WITH AN A UNIT? ONE SINGLE UNIT? YES.
AND AS SAMANTHA SAID, IF THE OWNER WAS LIVING ON THE PROPERTY, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY DEVELOP AN, AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON THE SITE AS WELL.
SO THE MINIMUM THING IS THEY COULD COME IN, CARVE UP SIX LOTS ON HERE SIX, AND GET SIX UNITS BY INDIVIDUALLY HAVING SIX PLATTED LOTS.
THEY COULD GET THE DENSITY IF THEY DID, UM, PLATTING.
BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PLATTING PROCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEERS GETTING INVOLVED.
I'M NOT CERTAIN HOW MUCH OF THE SPACE COULD BE UTILIZED, TAKEN, OR ACTUALLY USED.
COMMISSIONER DOBEL, UH, ALSO ALONG THE SAME LINES, UH, STAFF'S, UM, ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, HOW DOES IT WORK PROCESS WISE WITH, WITH NOTICE, UM, WITH LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION? SO IF, IF, UH, IF HYPOTHETICALLY AT THE, UH, AFTER A CONTINUANCE AT, IF THE COMMISSION WERE TO CONSIDER THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, UM, IS THAT ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION NOTICED
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TO THE NEIGHBORS? IS, UH, ARE THE NEIGHBORS AT, UH, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION? OR DO WE JUST WORK OFF OF THE NOTICE FOR THE, UH, PROPOSAL FROM THE APPLICANT? SO THE SOLUTION TO THIS, AND STAFF CAN ALWAYS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE, THE INQUIRY BECOMES WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IN RANGE.OKAY? SO WHAT WE LOOK AT IS THE EXISTING, UH, ZONING AND THE REQUESTED ZONING.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SAY, LET'S TAKE THIS EXAMPLE, UH, R FOUR TO MF, WHAT WAS THIS? 18 WAS THE REQUEST.
SO YOU CAN'T SAY, OKAY, I WANT C TWO NOW.
THAT WOULD TRIGGER A NEW NOTICE, A NEW PERIOD TO GET NOTICE OUT TO REPOST TO DO ALL SORTS OF STUFF.
BUT BECAUSE IN THIS CASE, BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY OF R FOUR AND MF 18, R FOUR CD WITH FOUR OR SIX UNITS IS IN THERE, UH, THAT IS STILL, WELL YOU CAN'T DO SIX UNITS WITH R FOUR CD.
SORRY, I TALK WITHOUT THINKING SOMETIMES.
UH, BUT SAY R FOUR CD FOR FOUR UNITS IS WITHIN RANGE.
SO NO NOTICE PROVISION IS TRIGGERED AT THAT POINT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
IS ISN'T IT POSSIBLE THOUGH THAT NEIGHBORS, EVEN THOUGH THAT THE, UH, ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, IF THAT WAS WHAT YOU KNOW, WAS THE CENTRAL DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT HEARING, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LESS DENSITY THAN THE, UH, PROPOSAL, THAN THE APPLICANT PROPOSAL, ISN'T IT TRUE THOUGH THAT THE NEIGHBORS COULD HAVE DIFFERENT CONCERNS AROUND THE R FOUR CD ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION THAN THEY WOULD'VE HAD IT, IT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A GAP THERE IN THE PUBLIC RESPONSE PROCESS.
SO ULTIMATELY IF THEY WERE TO, UM, AGREE WITH THE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, THERE WOULD BE NOTICES SENT OUT TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THAT ALTERNATE RE UH, ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION.
SO IT WOULD TECHNICALLY GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, A CHANCE TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS.
RIGHT? SO THE THE KEY BEING IS, IS THAT IT WOULD BE RENO BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING.
THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT OPPORTUNITY WOULD COME FROM.
NOT THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT THE, OKAY.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS LEFT? SEEING NONE.
ALRIGHT, UM, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION TO YOU, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
HOPE MY PASSION FOR THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO DOESN'T GO, UH, A LITTLE HEAVY SOMETIMES, BUT MY MOM, MOM GRADUATED FROM HARLAND DALE.
MY DAD WENT TO SAM'S AND THEY KIND OF MEN IN THE MIDDLE.
SO, UM, I, I THINK COMMUNICATION IS ALWAYS GONNA BE THE, THE BEST PART GOING FORWARD.
WE NEED TO HAVE A CONSENSUS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE DIRECT NEIGHBORS AND THE DEVELOPER AND THE REPRESENTATIVE SO THAT WE CAN ALL COME, UH, WE CAN ALL COME TO SOME SORT OF MIDDLE GROUND HOPEFULLY.
BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE, WELL, OR LET ME SAY THIS, WHAT I SEE IS, I THINK THIS IS TOO MUCH OF A, IT'S TOO DENSE FOR THIS AREA.
UM, SO IF, IF WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION RIGHT NOW, MY VOTE WILL BE FOR DENIAL.
UM, BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT BROOKS, WE GOT THE, THE UNIVERSITY ON SOUTH OF FOUR 10, WE GOT ALL THIS GREAT DEVELOPMENT GOING ON, ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THESE DEVELOPERS WANNA COME IN AND START RENTING THESE PLACES OUT, UM, FOR, FOR OUR LOVELY SOUTH SIDE.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN B AND B BARBECUE GETS FULL AND I CAN'T EAT THERE DURING LUNCH.
BUT, UH, THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUOUS FOR FOUR WEEKS FOR THE JUNE 16TH, UH, MEETING.
WAIT, DID YOU, YOU SAID JUNE 16TH.
JUNE 16TH FOR ITEM NUMBER 11 TO JUNE 16TH BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION, RIGHT? SEEING NONE.
I JUST, I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO OPEN UP THE BOX AND THINK CREATIVELY.
I, I NOTICED THAT, OR ACTUALLY I'M GONNA GIVE CREDIT TO COMMISSIONER WINSON NOTICED THAT THERE'S THE LOTS, UH, ABUTTING PETALUMA AND, UH, KALO.
I'M SURE I'M PRONOUNCING THAT WRONG.
YOU KNOW, ONE SOLUTION MIGHT BE TO CONSIDER RE PLATTING AND, UH, HAVING INDIVIDUAL LOTS FACING PETALUMA AND THEN INDIVIDUAL LOTS FACING COLO AND HAVING SEPARATE UNITS.
TALK ABOUT CREATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT COULD MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION LEFT? ALRIGHT.
MOTION IS FOR CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 16TH FOR ITEM NUMBER 11 BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
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YES.ALRIGHT, WE HAVE TWO CASES LEFT, SHOCKINGLY.
UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO POWER THROUGH.
LET'S GO WITH ITEM NUMBER 14, PLEASE.
JOEL PALUS ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 14 IS LOCATED AT 1 1 4 GLENWOOD COURT GOING FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO R FOUR CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DUALING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAIN IN THE SAME 33 NOTICES WERE SENT TO RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND TO OPPOSE WITHIN 200 FEET.
P SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
AS THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO CONSTRUCT FOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE LOT.
ALTHOUGH THE PROPERTIES ALONG GLENWOOD COURT ARE PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY NATURE TWO FAMILY OR DUPLEX RESIDENCES ARE ALSO ALLOWED BY RIGHT, PROVIDED A LOT CONFIGURATION, REMAIN UNCHANGED AND WAS NOT THE SUBJECT OF REZONE.
AND PER UDC SECTION 35 DASH D 1 0 1 J, THE B RESIDENCE DISTRICT CONVERSION TO R FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT.
THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN INDICATES THE MINIMUM SETBACKS AND THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE MET.
HOWEVER, INCREASING THE DENSITY FROM THE PERMITTED TWO DWELLING UNITS OR SINGLE FAMILY UNIT TO FOUR WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN OVERCROWDING ON THE LOT AND ADD TRAFFIC TO A LOCAL STREET WITHIN THIS ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALTERNATELY STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR $3 UNITS.
THIS WOULD ALLOW THE PROPERTY OWNER ONE ADDITIONAL UNIT BEYOND THE PERMITTED TWO UNITS BY RIGHT WHILE LIMITING OVERCROWDING ON THE LOT AND MITIGATING POTENTIAL TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 15 EAST COMMERCE.
I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LONG, LONG MORNING ALREADY.
UM, THIS IS BASICALLY THE STREET VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
MY CLIENT, CRAIG HENRY, WHO'S THERE WITH ME IN THE BACK, HE LIVES IN THE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT.
UM, HE'S NOT SOME OUT OF TOWN DEVELOPER COMING IN TO DO SOMETHING AND LEAVING.
HE ACTUALLY IS GOING TO STAY HERE AND LIVE HERE AND WANTS TO DO A VERY NICE DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR.
UM, OH, WHAT HAPPENED? THERE WE GO.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE ELEVATION.
HE HIRED A, A TOP-NOTCH ARCHITECT.
HE'S JUST TRYING TO DO FOUR DWELLING UNITS ON THE VACANT LOT.
NEXT DOOR THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID MEET WITH RIVERSIDE AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS AND YOU KNOW, THEY ARE IN SUPPORT.
I BELIEVE WHAT OPPOSITION THERE IS IS THERE'S A VACANT PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, A VERY LARGE ONE THAT USED TO BE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT APPARENTLY HAD ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS FROM CRIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST A LITTLE, OR SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE A LITTLE GUN SHY ABOUT THAT.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, MY CLIENT WANTS TO DO A REALLY TOP-NOTCH DEVELOPMENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDING THREE.
WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO FOUR IF YOU COULD SUPPORT US.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
UM, THIS IS A, I'M SORRY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE FOR COMMISSIONER HINO HOSA TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, NOT REALLY TOO MANY QUESTIONS.
UH, I KNOW THE OUTREACH HERE HAS BEEN, I, I WALKED THE AREA AND TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS.
RIVERSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, ALMOST KIND OF OPPOSITE WHERE THE ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN DEALT WITH, UH, WITH THE CITY, OR EXCUSE ME, WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? TO MY RIGHT? SEEING NONE QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? YES.
UH, JUST UH, FROM STAFF CLARIFICATION.
SO, UM, THE NEIGHBOR IS, THERE'S ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THERE? YES.
THE RIVERSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
DID, DID WE, I I MISSED IT IF WE, BUT DID WE HAVE THE, UH, THE MAP WITH THE CHECK MARKS AND THE XS? OKAY, SO SPLIT TWO TWO, UM, TO THE APPLICANT.
DO WE, DO WE KNOW THE STORY OF, UH, UH, ONE 16, WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE? WHAT? YES.
UM, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT USED TO BE ACROSS THE STREET.
I BELIEVE IT'S JUST THE FEAR THAT HE MIGHT TRY TO DO SOMETHING RIDDLED WITH CRIME, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.
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HE'S GOING TO STAY THERE, SO.AND THEN, UH, UH, AND THEN EQUALLY, WAS THERE ANYTHING DIFFERENT YOU CAN GIVE FOR THE CLIFFORD STREET PROPERTY? WAS THERE ANY OTHER CONTEXT OR WAS IT JUST GENERALLY THE SAME CONCERN? PROBABLY THE SAME CONCERN.
ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS ONE QUICK, QUICK YES, COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S THAT? COME BACK.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A DIAGONAL KIND OF OVERLAY.
IS THERE SOME SORT OF OVERLAY THROUGH THAT AREA THAT CUTS THROUGH THE, UH, PART OF THIS PROPERTY? I'M LOOKING ON THE NOTIFICATION PLAN AND ON THE ZONING MAP IT'S A METROPOLITAN CORRIDOR OVERLAY.
SOUTH PRESA, THERE'S ONE ON THE SOUTH PERSA, THERE'S ONE ON ROOSEVELT, UH, ON THESE TWO STREETS THAT RUNS.
DOES THAT CREATE ANY ISSUES FOR Y'ALL? NO.
IT'S MOSTLY SIGNAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS LEFT? I, YEAH.
UH, UH, THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THREE INSTEAD OF FOUR.
WHAT, UH, WHAT, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT THE PROJECT FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE? THREE.
IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU COULD GET.
UH, IT AFFECTS THE VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME ENGINEERING, SOME THINGS THAT ARE, HAVE TO BE DONE AND IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE CHEAP.
UH, THERE IS NO ALLEY ON THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, IF WE COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST GONNA BE A, A TURNAROUND DEAD END, RIGHT? CORRECT.
IF YOU NOTICE THE WAY THEY, THEY BACK IN AND EVEN THE PROPERTY THAT'S UP AGAINST THE BACK THERE, UM, THEY CAN BACK OUT A LITTLE BIT AND GO STRAIGHT.
IT'S NOT, THAT'S, IT'S NOT AN EXIT AS WELL.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT, LEFT.
SEEING NONE, UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE COMMISSIONER HINO HOSA TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
UH, BY COMMISSIONER HINO HOSA.
I SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ FOR ITEM NUMBER 14 AS SUBMITTED.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 22.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS WILSON, PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER 22 IS LOCATED AT 5 9 9 5 HEATH ROAD AND IS IS A REQUEST FROM C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C TWO, A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED.
MISTY OAK'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET THERE WAS ONE OPPOSED.
THE EXISTING C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY'S CURRENT C ONE ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PROPOSED INDOOR SPORT COURT USE AND SERVES AS AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION TO THE R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO THE SOUTH.
UNLIKE C TWO ZONING, WHICH IS NO BUILDING SIZE RESTRICTIONS, C ONE LIMITS INDIVIDUAL STRUCTURES TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
THIS LIMITATION IS CRITICAL FOR MAINTAINING NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE.
IT PREVENTS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MASSIVE, UM, BLOCK LONG STRUCTURES AND ENCOURAGES ARCHITECTURAL BREAKS THAT HARMONIZE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL INTERFACES.
FURTHERMORE, THE PRESENCE OF A FLOODPLAIN ON THE PROPERTY MAY PRESENT SIGNIFICANT SITE ACCESSIBILITY CHALLENGES THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
ASHLEY FAIRMONT KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT 1 0 1 0 1 REUNION PLACE.
UH, NICE TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN.
I DO WANNA MAKE A QUICK INTRODUCTION.
PRASHANT RAO IS HERE IN THE BACK.
HE IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND WILL BE THE DEVELOPER, UH, AND CAN ALSO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT I CANNOT.
UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY IS THE C TWO IN A ZONING ON THE SITE.
UM, HERE'S JUST A A A MAP OF THE GENERAL AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
I INCLUDE THIS JUST BECAUSE UP AND DOWN HEATH ROAD.
THERE IS A VARIETY OF USES FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO C3 SOCCER FIELDS NORTH OF THERE IS INDUSTRIAL INTO THE SOUTH TOWARDS GRISSOM.
IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE INTENSE OR COMMERCIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.
SO THE YELLOW OUTLINE IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING.
THE GREEN IS ALSO PART OF THE PROPERTY BUT ARE SEPARATE, UM, APPRAISAL DISTRICT PARCELS.
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THOSE, SO THEY ARE STAYING ZONE C ONE.SO IT JUST INCLUDES THIS TO SHOW THAT THERE IS ACCESS TO HEATH ROAD.
UM, AND ALSO THERE IS A SMALL OFFICE ON THE PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN A MEDICAL CLINIC.
BROWN'S DAD, UM, HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR, OR OWNED IT BEFORE HE DID FOR 40 YEARS.
UM, SO HAS BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS C TWO AND A.
THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO ALLOW FOR INDOOR FITNESS FACILITY A PICKLE AND PADDLE BALL, UM, OPTION FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, WE THINK IT'S A GOOD HEALTHY COMMUNITY TYPE BUSINESS THAT COULD GO HERE.
UM, THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT BUILDING SIZE AND, AND BUILDING SIZE IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS ZONING DISTRICT.
SO, C ONE DOES ALLOW FOR INDOOR FITNESS FACILITIES, BUT IT LIMITS BUILDING SIZE TO ONE BUILDING CAN BE NO MORE THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, MULTIPLE BUILDINGS, THE ENTIRETY OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING SPACE.
SO WE'RE OVER, UM, AGAIN, FIVE ACRES TOTAL.
UH, SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY 6% OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY COULD HAVE A BUILDING ON IT WITH C ONE ZONING.
IT, MY OPINION C ONE ZONING IS INTENDED MORE FOR SMALL RETAIL SERVICE TYPE USES THAT ARE LOCATED IN PLACES THAT ARE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE THAN THIS SITE HERE.
UH, SO AGAIN, HERE'S THE ZONING MAP JUST TO SHOW THE C ONE CURRENTLY ZONING THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS C3.
THERE'S C TWO ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR COMMERCIAL.
AND AGAIN, THIS SITE IS ALREADY COMMERCIAL.
UM, BUT THE REASON FOR THE LARGER, UM, OR THE MORE INTENSE ZONING THE C TWO AND A, UH, IS AGAIN TO HAVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE A BIT BIGGER.
SO I'M GONNA SKIP FORWARD JUST A MINUTE.
SO HERE'S A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.
UM, THE IDEA IS IF, IF BUILDINGS ARE LIMITED TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET, THEN YOU CAN HAVE THREE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE, UM, AND MINIMAL QUARTS IN EACH BUILDING.
SO THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUARTS IN THE BUILDINGS.
SO YOU'RE HAVING, AGAIN, KIND OF THAT ATMOSPHERE OF WHEN WHAT PICKLE AND PADDLE BALL IS INTENDED TO BE IT'S EXERCISE, BUT IT'S ALSO COMMUNITY, FRIENDSHIP, FAMILY, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
UH, SO HERE WE HAVE POTENTIAL FOR FOUR BUILDINGS ON THE SITE.
UM, EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING WOULD BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
UM, KIND OF LIKE THE CLUBHOUSE FOR THE PICKLEBALL FACILITY.
SO THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, STAFF MENTIONED THAT C TWO, UM, THE BUILDINGS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY, UM, MORE LOOMING OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CORRECT WORD IS, BUT JUST LARGER BUILDING ON THE SITE.
C TWO AND C ONE HAVE THE SAME LANDSCAPE BUFFER, BOTH 15 FEET.
UM, C ONE AND C TWO HAVE THE SAME BUILDING HEIGHT.
SO WHAT YOU SEE POTENTIALLY FROM SAY THE BACK OF A RESIDENTIAL HOME OR THE BACK, YOU KNOW, FENCE LINE, UM, IS THE SAME BUILDING HEIGHT.
SO JUST POTENTIALLY MORE BUILDING.
WE ALSO DON'T HAVE MUCH FRONTAGE ON HEATH ROAD, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THIS PROJECT FROM HEATH ROAD EITHER.
UM, A FEW OF THE THINGS JUST TO HIGHLIGHT FOR IDEAS TO CALL IT THE LEON VALLEY RACKET CLUB.
UM, HOURS OF OPERATION LIMITED FROM 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM UH, THE IDEA WOULD BE A MEMBERSHIP OR YOU CAN PAY FOR A COURT, RENT A COURT.
UH, AGAIN, THAT EXISTING OFFICE ON SITE WOULD BE REMODELED INTO THE CLUBHOUSE.
UH, MULTIPLE COURTS IN EACH BUILDING, CLIMATE CONTROLLED ACOUSTICALLY, DAMPENED.
SO FOR SOUND PURPOSES, AGAIN, EVERYTHING'S INSIDE.
UM, BUT THESE BUILDINGS WOULD HAVE WALLS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, THICKER, MORE INTENSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO NOISE THAT, UM, ESCAPES FROM THERE.
UH, TREE SAVE AREAS, UH, SIX TO EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A FENCE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, SO IT'D BE A NEW FENCE INSTALLED THERE.
UH, NO OUTDOOR COURTS, AND THEN AMPLE PARKING ON THE SITE AS WELL.
UM, WITH THAT, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT, UH, THIS REQUEST.
WE THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD BUSINESS FOR THIS AREA.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. FAIRMAN.
WE DO, WE HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS, UH, JANIE BENAVIDEZ.
ALRIGHT, MS. BEDO, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TELL US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN WHAT YOU THINK I DON'T LIKE TO DO PUBLIC SPEAKING.
JANIE BENO AND OH, JANIE BENAVIDEZ, 7 8 2 3.
PULL PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, MY PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY OVER THE FENCE TO THE PROPOSED OR MY BACKYARD IS THROUGH THE PROPOSED THING.
AND, UH, FORGIVE ME, BUT I, I, LAST WEEK WAS THE FIRST HEARING THAT I CAME TO AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WORKED.
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A LOT OF INTERESTING THINGS THAT DIRECTLY SPOKE TO OUR CONCERNS AND, UM, MY, I, I'M HERE ALSO SPEAK, HAVE RESPECT SPEAKING TO SOME NEIGHBORS AND, UH, A RETIRED, I'M AROUND RETIRED NORTHSIDE TEACHERS.I'M, I JUST RETIRED FROM NORTHSIDE, MYSELF AND ONE NEIGHBOR WHO'S BEEN THERE 47 YEARS SINCE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WAS, UH, DEVELOPED.
THEY HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE LIGHTING, THE, THE NOISE.
UM, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS AFTER HEARING THE INFORMATION LAST WEEK ABOUT KIND OF NOT KNOWING WHAT C TWO MEANS AND ALL THAT ABOUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN, THE PICKLEBALL AND ALL OF THAT ISN'T THE WORST THING.
UH, BUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN SHOULD THIS FACILITY FAIL? AND, AND DR.
RAO WANTS TO, UM, SELL, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, HE MENTIONED IT'S A LIFELONG DREAM.
BUT IF IN THE EVENT THAT IT FAILS WHAT FALLS UNDER SEA TOO, AND HEARING ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT ONCE IT'S ISSUED, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU CAN'T ADD CONDITIONS TO IT.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT CLEAR ON WHAT RIGHTS WE HAVE AS HOMEOWNERS TO SAY, OKAY, CAN WE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE HAVE CERTAIN CONDITIONS ON THIS BEING ISSUED? UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT BACK TO THE BEGINNING WHEN WE RECEIVED THESE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO NOTICES, UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST WITH NO INFORMATION AND THE DESCRIPTION THAT'S GIVEN, YOU KNOW, AND UNLESS YOU CALL AND ASK AND I CALLED AND, YOU KNOW, HAD TO ASK, BUT IT WAS KIND OF MISLEADING WHEN HEARING, UM, DR.
RA'S, UH, ATTORNEY SPEAK LAST WEEK ABOUT WHAT WAS, UH, WHAT FEEDBACK DID THEY GET FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE RECEIVED A NOTICE, A LETTER FROM THEM DESCRIBING WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING ON THE DAY OF LAST WEEK'S HEARING.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO VOTE FOR AGAINST.
NOW I CALLED AND FOUND OUT I GAVE THE CASE NUMBER AND THEY SAID, OH, THEY, THEY'RE PROPOSING A PICKLEBALL.
UH, BUT, UH, MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS ALL EXPRESSED THE SAME CONCERN THAT WE HAD NO INFORMATION.
AND THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE MORE SPECIFICS.
AND I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BUT THE OTHER CONCERNS.
THAT'S AVI, THIS, THAT'S YOUR TIME.
HILLARY LAREDO, IS IT OKAY IF WE BOTH GO, UM, ONE SPEAKER AT A TIME? BUT YOU CAN GIVE YOUR TIME EITHER WAY.
IF YOU WANT SIX MINUTES, YOU CAN HAVE IT.
MA'AM, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? YOU, YOU'RE HILLARY.
HILLARY IS GIVING YOUR TIME TOO.
ADRIAN LOREDO ADRIAN AND I LIVE AT, UH, 78 27 DOV FLIGHT, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 0.
UM, I AS WELL BACK UP TO THE, UM, THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
UM, AND I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE PUT THERE.
I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW.
UH, THE, THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY DEFINITELY DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.
SO I'M AFRAID WHAT CAN HAPPEN TO THIS NEXT DEVELOPMENT THAT HE'S GOING, GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS DO.
UM, ONE THING THAT KIND OF RINGS A BELL TO ME IS EMERGENCY EVACUATION.
IF SOMETHING WERE TO EVER HAPPEN, THERE'S NOWHERE REALLY TO GO.
UM, HEATH ROAD IS VERY, VERY SMALL.
SO THE IN AND OUT OF TRAFFIC THAT THIS ESTABLISHMENT WOULD BRING CAN CAUSE CONCERN.
UM, I DO, I DO REALIZE THAT THERE IS OTHER, UM, BUSINESSES C3 ALL THE WAY AROUND IT.
UM, BUT REALLY THE BACKSIDE OF ALL THIS, IF YOU LOOK, IS ALL RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMISSION AND OF, OF COURSE THE, THE CITY AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET THIS DENIED.
UM, FOR ONE, THE GATE AND THE SEPARATION BETWEEN US, ALL WE HAVE IS AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
AND HONESTLY, IT'S FALLING DOWN.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I HAVE CONCERNS ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE NOISE, THE LIGHTS, OUR CHILDREN'S, UH, BEDROOM BACKS UP TO THAT, UH, AREA.
UM, I DIDN'T KNOW OPERATION PLANS, ELEVATION PLANS, NOTHING WAS GIVEN TO US.
WE HAVE NO IDEA PERHAPS OF WHATEVER SHE SAID.
UM, NO ONE'S KNOCKED ON OUR DOOR.
NO ONE'S TOLD US WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO, UH, I'M, I'M PRETTY CONCERNED AND, AND I
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WANT MY VOICE TO BE HEARD ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OLDER FOLKS, EXCUSE ME, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.I'M ONE OF THE YOUNGER ONES, BUT I AM SPEAKING FOR THEM AS WELL.
SOME OF THEM COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY.
UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS ALSO AFFECTS MY HOME VALUE.
UH, I'M A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL AND I FEEL THAT IF I EVER TO SELL THIS HOME, WHO WANTS THIS BIG ESTABLISHMENT BACKED UP AGAINST HIM, HONESTLY.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TODAY AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
UH, MA'AM DID YOU SIGN UP? I SIGNED UP.
I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T RECOGNIZE MY VOICE.
I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS GONNA PLEASE EVERYONE.
UH, BUT I WANT TO SAY MS. GONZALEZ, YOUR NAME.
OH, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, MY COMMISSIONER IS SITTING RIGHT HERE FOR D SIX AND COMMISSIONER RIGHT HERE.
VE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PROBING QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE A SYSTEM HERE, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T WORK AS YOU, IT DOESN'T WORK AS GOOD IN REAL LIFE AS IT DOESN'T PAPER.
I DO WANNA THANK FOREST BECAUSE THIS MAP, IF YOU COULD PUT IT UP THERE, UH, IS IT UP THERE? IT'S UP HERE.
CAN YOU JUST AMPLIFY IT A LITTLE BIT MORE? UM, I LIVE AT 50 TO 18 DUBS AND THIS NEW BUSINESS, THIS PROPOSAL TO CHANGE FROM C ONE TO C TWO.
UM, THESE ARE ALL RESIDENTIAL HOMES, SO I'M NOT RIGHT AND NEXT TO IT, BUT I AM AFFECTED BY IT MORE THAN I THOUGHT.
LIKE THEY SAID, THIS BUSINESS HAS ONE LANE GOING INTO BACK THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT BACK THERE IS.
'CAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES AND A LOT OF FOLIAGE.
THERE'S ONLY ONE LANE TO COME OUT OF THAT AREA AND ONE LANE TO GO IN.
WE ALSO WERE CONCERNED WITH ALL THESE MANY CARS AND ALL THESE MANY PEOPLE AND THE BUSINESS THAT WE THINK IT MIGHT, UH, THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT ATTRACT.
IF YOU HAVE A SAFETY ISSUE, SUCH AS WAS MENTIONED, FIRE.
HOW IS, HOW ARE THE FIREMEN GONNA GET IN THERE? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO EXTRACT THESE PEOPLE? THE SAFETY, UH, IT'S NOT CLEAR.
AND HEATH ROAD IS ONE LANE IN AND ONE LANE NOT COMING FROM GRISSOM ROAD.
UM, AND THESE HOUSES THAT ARE, THAT SHARE THE UM, THE PROPERTY LINE, THEY'RE GONNA BE IMPACTED BY THIS.
YOU HAVE ALL SORTS OF, UM, INTRUSIONS NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LIGHT POLLUTION.
I'M GLAD THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO RE UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? SAVE SOME OF THE TREES.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT FOREST OR WHOEVER THE PLANTER IS ACTUALLY GO TO THAT PHYSICAL LOCATION.
AND I DID REACH OUT TO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, THE TREASURER AND THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WAS NOT AWARE OF IT, AWARE OF IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE NOTIFIED OR NOT.
I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE WORD THAT HE SAID THEY WERE NOT NOTIFIED.
SO WHAT DO I HAVE? 21 SECONDS.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROBING QUESTIONS.
THERE'S MORE THAT IS ON PAPER AND I JUST SUGGEST MAKE TIME TO GO.
AND, UH, MR. OSA, THANK YOU FOR, UH, YOUR QUESTIONING AND HIS QUESTIONING IS WHAT WE NEED.
UH, MS. FARMAN BRIEF REBUTTAL.
YES, AND, AND I'LL BE BRIEF, UM, ON THE, ON THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS 12 COURTS.
SO 12 COURTS AND FOUR PEOPLE ON EACH COURT IS 48 MAXIMUM PEOPLE PLAYING AT THE SITE AT THE TIME.
THIS ISN'T LIKE CHICKEN AND PICKLE, IT'S NOT WHERE PEOPLE GO TO HANG OUT OR EAT OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT IS JUST TO PLAY PICKLEBALL.
SO WE THINK THAT TRAFFIC WILL BE AT A MINIMUM, BUT THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
UM, ALSO ON NOISE AND LIGHTS AND THOSE THINGS.
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL CITY REQUIREMENTS.
UM, BUT THAT WILL ALL BE ADDRESSED AS WELL.
THERE'S NO INTENTION OF CREATING ANY
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PROBLEMS FOR NEIGHBORS.UM, I DO WANNA ASK, I DIDN'T TELL HER, BUT ASK EMILY TO COME UP AND SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE OUTREACH, UM, THAT WE'VE DONE.
WE TRIED, MISTY OAKS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE'VE TRIED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS TO CONTACT THEM BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE COULD BE THINGS THAT ARE CONCERNING AND LIKE WE DO IN A LOT OF ZONING CASES, ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD RESTRICTING USES, PROVIDING FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SITE ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE.
UNFORTUNATELY, C TWO IS THE ONLY OPTION THAT WE HAVE THAT ALLOWS FOR BUILDINGS LIKE THIS.
WE CAN'T CONDITION IT, WE CAN'T DO A SPECIFIC USE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU ALL TO PLACE CONDITIONS ON IT.
SO I'LL LET HER SPEAK REALLY BRIEFLY.
EMILY WEISLER WITH KELAND GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN.
UM, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, SO, UM, OUTREACH STARTED TO MISTY OAKS, UM, IN MID-FEBRUARY.
UM, THEY RECEIVED, UH, THEY ELECTED A NEW BOARD PRESIDENT.
UM, I SPOKE WITH THE MOST PASSPORT PRESIDENT WHO PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH THE NEW BOARD, THE NEW BOARD, UM, SINCE END OF FEBRUARY.
UM, AND BEGINNING OF MARCH HAS YET TO RESPOND.
UM, THEY'VE YET TO ENGAGE, UM, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
WE HAVE ALSO RE-ENLISTED THE PAST PRESIDENT, UM, TO TRY AND ELICIT A RESPONSE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE CURRENT BOARD, UM, AND THEIR MEMBERS.
SO, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE, THEY HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO ENGAGE.
UM, WE BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM.
UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WE ALSO SENT OUT OUR OWN MAILERS, UM, DIRECTLY FROM OUR OFFICE, FROM ME, UM, TO EVERYONE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE, THE PROJECT EXPLAINING, GIVING SOME DETAILS ABOUT THE PROJECT, THE PROPOSED REZONING, THE PICKLEBALL FACILITY, UM, AND PROVIDED, EXCUSE ME, PROVIDED ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND WE'VE ONLY RECEIVED, WE HAVE RECEIVED A FEW CALLS, UM, SO WE KNOW THAT THOSE WERE DELIVERED TO AT LEAST THE PEOPLE THAT CALLED US.
UM, SO HAPPY TO CONTINUE THOSE ENGAGEMENTS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ELICIT A RESPONSE SPECIFICALLY FROM MS. D OAKS, UM, SINCE FEBRUARY.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. WEISLER.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE.
COMMISSIONER HUEY TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, MS. BENAVIDEZ, CAN YOU COME UP AND I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING A LONG DRIVE DOWN HERE.
UH, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR STATEMENT CONDITIONS, WHAT CONDITIONS WERE YOU INTERESTED IN? UM, I PROBABLY THE MAIN ONE IS, UM, THAT, AND IT'S PROBABLY TOO MUCH, BUT, UM, LIKE IN THE EVENT THAT HE SELLS, I GUESS THERE'S NO WAY TO CONTROL WHAT CAN HAPPEN AFTER.
IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO PUT LIKE A, LAST WEEK THERE WAS A HEAVY DISCUSSION ABOUT AN AUTO BUSINESS AND OR APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I, THEY GAVE A QUICK POWERPOINT OF DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THAT FALL UNDER THE C TWO.
SO, UH, WE DIDN'T GET A HANDOUT OR ANYTHING, WHICH I MEANT TO CALL THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ASK IF WE COULD GET THOSE HANDOUTS OF EVEN THOSE BUILDINGS BECAUSE, UM, SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION OR MAYBE WITH, IF IT'S APPROVED, WHAT CAN THEY, UH, WHAT CAN WE GET THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF LIGHTS INTO OUR BACKYARDS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT I'M WANTED TO ADD IS HEATH ROAD.
I, I AGREE THAT IT'S MISLEADING BECAUSE HEATH ROAD IS A MAIN THOROUGH FOUR FOR NORTHSIDE ISD BUSES THAT COME IN AND OUT OF THERE.
AND EL RIGHT ELEMENTARY IS DOWN THE STREET.
I HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN HEATH ROAD.
I WANT TO, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S MISLEADING TO SAY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.
YES, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ON ARE ON GSO BUT NOT OFF OF HEATH ROAD.
I THINK THERE'S A SOCCER FIELD THERE, BUT I DON'T, I WOULDN'T QUALIFY THAT AS LIKE HEAVY TO ME IT'S MISLEADING.
YEAH, I LIVE NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE.
AND I DRIVE DOWN HEATH ROAD ALL THE TIME.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UH, DID YOU GET A MAILER? UH, THE ONE FROM THE CITY OR FROM THE ATTORNEY? UH, FROM THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THE ATTOR, WE GOT IT ON THE DAY LAST WEDNESDAY.
THE DAY OF THE HEARING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLANNING.
THE ONE THAT SAID, UH, THAT IT WAS FROM, THAT THEY WERE THE ATTORNEYS REPRESENTING DR.
SO YOU ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING WITH YOUR ATTORNEYS, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, I MET WITH THEM HERE AFTER THE HEARING WAS OVER.
THEY STOPPED ME AND THEY GAVE ME THEIR CARDS.
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TO SAY THAT THEY HAD, UH, REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, THEY SAID THAT THEY TALKED TO MISTY OAKS LIKE THEY'RE SAYING TODAY.MY UNDERSTANDING FROM SOMEONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT THERE WAS NO REACH OUT TO MS. D OAK.
SO THERE'S A, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S WHO'S.
WHAT MEETING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? DO YOU, YOU TALK CLIENTS? OH, OH, I'M SORRY.
THE COMMISSION MEETING, THE HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO HELP ME VERIFY THAT YOU DIDN'T GET AN EMAILER.
SO I DID GET A, UH, A LETTER IN THE MAIL, BUT ALL IT, ALL IT WAS EXPLAINING WAS WHO, WHO THE OWNER WAS AND WHO HE WAS BEING REPRESENTED BY.
AND, UM, I GUESS SOMEWHAT A VERY, VERY BRIEF OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO.
LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS NO SITE PLANS, ELEVATION PLANS, ANYTHING.
IT WAS JUST, THIS IS WHO I AM AND THIS IS WHO I'M REPRESENTING.
SO THE PROPERTY BEHIND YOU, THEY JUST SAID THE FENCE IS NOT, UH, BEING REPAIRED.
SO IT'S, YES, IT'S, IT'S AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S FALLING DOWN ON MOST ON MO PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE FENCES FALLING DOWN.
THEY HAVE TREES THAT ARE FALLING INTO OUR YARDS.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT TAKEN CARE OF BASICALLY.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD SOMETHING AND WHO'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT? YOU KNOW, WHO'S GONNA RUN IT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GONNA MANAGE THIS PROPERTY? WHAT IS IT GONNA LOOK LIKE IN 10 YEARS OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD? OKAY.
UH, QUESTION FOR MS. GONZALEZ.
UH, EARLIER YOU SAID YOU SPOKE TO SOMEONE FROM THE MISTY OAKS, HOA? YES.
AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
BUT THEY DID REFER ME TO A MISS RENA AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS, BUT THEY TOLD ME THAT SHE WOULD BE AWARE OF ANY ZONING CHANGES THAT WOULD AFFECT MSTY OAKS.
DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHO MS. REYNA IS? AGAIN, THE NAME REYNA, R-E-Y-N-A? NO, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
WE'RE LOOKING UP, GIVE US A MOMENT.
WE'RE LOOKING UP THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT I SPOKE TO THE TREASURER AND HE'S USUALLY PRETTY UP ON EVERYTHING.
AND WHAT IS HIS NAME? UH, AL COLE IS THE LAST NAME.
HE'S A TREASURER AND HE WAS OUT OF TOWN THAT DAY THAT I SPOKE TO HIM.
AND HE'S ON THE CURRENT BOARD? CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, SIR, HE'S ASKING QUESTIONS.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION CONTACTS IS, UH, MARY CARDENAS.
CAN YOU JUST REMIND, UM, EVERYONE HERE WHAT THE ALLOWABLE USERS ARE FOR C TWO? UH, YEAH, I'LL JUST GIVE A COUPLE EXAMPLES.
UM, SO, UH, LIQUOR STORE, RETAIL SALES, ALCOHOL, WINE, BOUTIQUE, UM, VIDEO GAME STORES, ANIMAL CLINICS, AUTO AND LIKE TRUCK OIL, LUBIN TUNEUP, AUTO RENTAL, AUTO PARTS, RETAIL TYPICALLY THINGS LIKE RESTAURANTS, CONVENIENCE STORES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO I GUESS I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT, UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS HERE THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE RECEIVED THE INFORMATION FROM YOU GUYS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT, UH, MISCOMMUNICATIONS TOOK PLACE.
WELL, I THINK THEY ALL RECEIVED THE LETTER.
THEY ALL SAID THEY RECEIVED THE LETTER FROM US, I BELIEVE.
BUT WHAT WAS IN THE LETTER DID IT, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO ME THAT THEY RECEIVED ENOUGH INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROJECT WAS ABOUT.
UH, IT DESCRIBES A PICKLEBALL FACILITY IS WHAT THE LETTER DESCRIBES.
SO, BUT, BUT IT, IT DID MENTION IT, IT DID NOT INCLUDE A, A SITE PLAN WITH THE LETTER.
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SO, UM, AND WE, I MEAN, AS YOU ALLUDED TO, WE'RE UP HERE A LOT ASKING FOR ZONING CHANGES AND WE WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS QUITE A BIT.UM, AND WE REACHED OUT TO MISTY OAKS TO THE CONTACT, AS EMILY MENTIONED, BEFORE EVEN FILING THE CASE, UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO.
AND WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO WORK WITH ASSOCIATIONS, PARTICULARLY ON CASES LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S, THE BUSINESS IS A REALLY GOOD FIT AND THE USE IS ALREADY ALLOWED.
AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO STOP PLATTING THE PROPERTY INTO MULTIPLE LOTS, UM, AND TO ALLOW FOR THESE STRUCTURES TO BE BUILT.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT USES AND LIGHTING AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WANNA ENGAGE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TOO, SO THEY KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THAT WE CAN MAYBE ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TO RESTRICT AGAINST THAT.
AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR GOAL FROM THE BEGINNING.
AND I APOLOGIZE IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, IF THERE'S A BETTER CONTACT.
AND WE DID ASK MS. BENAVIDEZ AFTER PLANNING COMMISSION IF SHE HAD A BETTER CONTACT, UM, AND, AND THEY DIDN'T AT THAT TIME.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO TALK TO PEOPLE AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO MITIGATE CONCERNS.
SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, I, I TRAVEL UP AND DOWN HEATH LANE FOR THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, 40 SOME ODD YEARS.
AND, UM, THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN THERE OCCUPIED, I DON'T KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE NORTH OF VIEW YOU'VE GOT THE NURSERY AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, UM, AUTO REPAIR SHOP JUST TO THE EAST OF YOU.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING, AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MISCOMMUNICATIONS TOOK PLACE.
AND I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AGAIN.
I'M SORRY,
DO YOU THINK IT WOULD, WOULD BE, UH, ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS, AT LEAST TO THE SOUTH OF YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND? 'CAUSE I, I BELIEVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED WAS FAIRLY CLEAR, BUT I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THAT WAS COMMUNICATED AND RECEIVED.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER DOING THAT? YEAH, WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO DO THAT.
IT'S JUST WHO, I MEAN, AND, AND I CAN CHAT WITH EVERYBODY HERE, BUT IN TERMS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION CONTACT, I THINK WE, WE WOULD NEED SOME HELP WITH THAT.
SEE NANCY RENA IS WITH THE DISTRICT SIX CITY COUNCIL OFFICE THAT SHE WAS MENTIONING.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S SOME CLARIFICATION.
ALRIGHT, UH, QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, JUST, I THINK I'VE ALLUDED TO THIS EARLIER, BUT UH, AGAIN, IT'S GREAT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT I, I ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE A MORE DOOR TO DOOR KNOCKING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS AND WHEN YOU COME UP HERE AND SAY, I'VE TALKED TO THESE NEIGHBORS, I KNOW THERE'S LITTLE XS AND, AND, AND CHECK MARKS WHEN THEY GET BACK, THE CITY GETS BACK THEIR, UM, UH, APPROVAL AND, AND ALL, OR NOT APPROVAL, BUT WHEN THEY TALK FOR, WHEN THEY GET THE FEEDBACK BACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, BUT MAYBE DOING THAT, BUT ALSO A, A THIRD OPTION WOULD BE, UH, SOMETIMES THERE IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SO MAYBE YOU COULD SEND OUT ANOTHER LETTER OR, OR DELIVER A LETTER TO THE NEIGHBOR SURROUNDING THAT AREA THAT SAYS, HEY, WE'RE GONNA MEET SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THIS MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO SAYS, HEY, WE'RE REPRESENTING THIS PERSON, THIS IS WHAT THEY WANNA DO.
MAYBE SUBMIT A SITE PLAN, SUBMIT AS MUCH INFORMATION AS, AS YOU GUYS CAN, JUST SO THAT WE DON'T GET THE WELL WE DIDN'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW? AND AS FAR AS AN EDUCATOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS THAT, IT IS ALWAYS THAT FALLBACK PLAN WE DIDN'T KNOW.
BUT IF YOU GIVE THEM THAT INFORMATION AND SAY, WELL, I MEAN IT'S ON THIS PACKET, THAT, THAT ALWAYS HELPS.
UH, AND THEN FOR MS, UH, DOMINGUEZ, DID YOU SAY YOU'RE A RETIRED TEACHER? OH NO, I'M RETIRED FROM NORTH SIDE.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR, UH, THANK FOR BEING PATIENT
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HINO HOSA QUESTIONS, RIGHT? SEEING NONE QUESTIONS LEFT? YES.
UH, COMMISSIONER WHITSON AND THEN COMMISSIONER VE COULD YOU PUT THE SITE PLAN BACK UP THAT SHOWED THE BUILDINGS? AND I GUESS I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OF YOU, MS. FAIRMAN.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING EACH ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS IS GONNA BE THE PICKLEBALL FOR COURTS, PICKLEBALL, OR PADDLE COURTS.
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OR THEY SOMEDAY THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE TO LEASE THEM OUT FOR SOMETHING ELSE? IS THAT KIND OF THE NO, I THINK THE IDEA WITH THIS SITE PLAN WAS TO NOT BE TOO MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT C ONE ALLOWS IN TERMS OF BUILDING SIZE.UM, AND BUT THE C TWO, YOU COULD DO THAT IN TWO BUILDINGS.
YOU COULD DO THAT IN ONE BUILDING.
SO THE, THE BUILDINGS ARE BIGGER THAN 5,000 FEET, IS THAT THE ISSUE? YES.
HOW MUCH BIGGER ARE THEY? I THINK THESE BUILDINGS HERE ON THIS SITE PLAN ARE SIX TO 7,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT REZONING A SMALL PORTION OF THAT DOWN THERE? C ONE? I'M LOOKING ON A ZONING MAP THAT'S YES.
THAT, THAT PIECE THERE'S, UM, THAT BUILDING THERE IS THE EXISTING DOCTOR'S OFFICE.
UM, AND SO THAT BUILDING IS ABOUT 2000 SQUARE FEET.
SO THE CLINIC IS THERE THAT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
THIS SAYS LEON VALLEY WOMEN'S HEALTH CENTER.
I I THINK, THINK THAT IT'S MAYBE STILL USED A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE PATIENTS COME THERE.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT A PHOTO ON A SIGN.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER DULE, UH, FOR STAFF, WOULD YOU REMIND US, UM, WHAT USES WOULD BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING? UM, IT'S CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY C ONE, UM, MEAN THE LIGHT, LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ARE, UM, USUALLY LIMITED TO, UM, LESS INTENSE ARCADE BARING HOUSE.
SO, SO SOME TO JUST CLARIFY, UH, ATHLETIC FIELDS, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR, UM, FITNESS CENTERS, GROCERY STORE, GROCERY STORE IS, YES.
UH, FOR MR. LAREDO, SORRY TO ASK YOU TO COME UP AGAIN, BUT YOU KNOW,
SO AN APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, UH, A PROPERTY OWNER RIGHT NOW WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME TO US TO GET IT REZONED AS A, UH, AS A GROCERY STORE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO DEVELOP IT AS A GROCERY STORE OR AS A, UH, YOU KNOW, RUG AND CARPET SALES FACTORY WAREHOUSE.
SO QUESTION FOR YOU AND I NOT HOLDING YOU TO IT, I I JUST MEAN TO ILLUSTRATE THE POINT HERE.
UH, WOULD YOU PREFER IT TO BE, SAY HYPOTHETICALLY A GROCERY STORE OR YOU KNOW, A RUG AND CARPET SALES OR PREFER TO, FOR IT TO BE A, UH, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL FOR THE PICKLEBALL? WELL, IF YOU'RE ASKING ME, I WOULD PREFER IT THE WAY IT IS.
I MEAN, OH, NO, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE, SO THE, THE, THE ISSUE THERE RIGHT.
IS THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP IT AS A PICKLEBALL COURT.
IF THE APPLICANT, IF WE SAY, DENIED THAT REZONING REQUEST, THE APPLICANT COULD SELL THE PROPERTY TOMORROW.
SOMEBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO BUILD A GROCERY STORE.
SO, IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT YOUR GUYS, YOUR EXPECTATIONS AS A, AS A NEIGHBOR MM-HMM
UH, WOULD YOU PREFER IT TO BE A GROCERY STORE OVER A PICKLEBALL COURT? WOULD THAT BE A PREFERABLE OUTCOME? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER.
UM, AND I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT AT THIS POINT, BUT WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS, EVEN IF HE DOES REZONING, HE'S DOING THE HARD WORK AND THEN WE'LL EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SELL THE PROPERTY AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED THERE.
SO, SO THE HARD TO REASON TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION YEAH.
THE, THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A, A AFRAID TO ANSWER IT.
IT'S NOT A GOTCHA BECAUSE THE INFERENCE IS THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS, IS LESS INTENSIVE THAN SAY A GROCERY STORE SHOPPING COMPLEX.
YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT, IT'S A LARGE ENOUGH, UH, PROPERTY THAT YOU COULD HAVE A SMALL GROCERY STORE AND A RUG AND CARPET SALES, YOU KNOW, STORE.
I JUST DON'T THINK THOSE WOULD MAKE SENSE THERE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING YEAH.
THAT TO STAFF, UM, THIS, THIS TROUBLE OF A SUBSEQUENT OWNER.
UM, BECAUSE I, I MEAN I I I BELIEVE THE, THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY EXPRESSED WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE AND THEIR INTENTS ARE WITH THE, UH, PROPOSAL, BUT WITH A SAY SUBSEQUENT OWNER, UM, IS THERE REALLY NOTHING WE COULD DO, UH, TO IMPOSE LIMITATIONS ON A SUBSEQUENT OWNER? BECAUSE IF, IF WE COULD DO THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LOT EASIER OF A CASE.
NO, NOT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE.
AS I BELIEVE ASHLEY WAS MENTIONING, THERE COULD BE COVENANTS THAT WOULD BE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE OWNER AND THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
BUT THAT WOULD BE A CIVIL MATTER AND WE
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WOULD NOT ENFORCE ANY OF THAT.SO LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
OH, AND BY THE WAY, IDZ, LIKE WE COULDN'T USE IDZ TO, I BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY IS, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES THAT WOULD PERMIT THAT
SO COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN FOR OUR BENEFIT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THOSE, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS LOOK LIKE? LIKE WHAT, WHAT HYPOTHETICALLY COULD BE NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE PRIVATE PARTIES TO ADDRESS THAT? THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING INTO.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING BETWEEN THOSE, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
BUT I GUESS IN THE PAST, LIKE ON, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT BEFORE AS THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE.
WE, WE HAVE SEEN THAT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS THAT ENGAGE IN THOSE SORT OF AGREEMENTS.
BUT LIKE I, AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT BEEN PRIVY TO OR A PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AT ALL.
DO THEY, UM, IS IT COMMON PRACTICE WHEN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS ARE BEING MADE FOR THE APPLICANT OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO TELL THE COMMISSION? OR IS THAT AS, AS A GENERAL RULE? I WOULD CONSIDER THAT NOT GERMANE AS THE CHAIR.
UM, IF THE APPLICANT AND A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THE PROPERTY IN WHICH THEY ARE ASKING FOR A REZONING COME TO A PRIVATE AGREEMENT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM NECESSARILY KNOWING ABOUT THAT AGREEMENT.
I THINK THAT'S GERMANE TO THE EXTENT IT LEADS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR NEIGHBORS SAYING THAT THEY ARE NOW IN AGREEMENT OR NOW SUPPORT THAT.
'CAUSE THE CITY CAN'T ENFORCE IT.
SO IT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THE ZONING.
WE'RE, IF WE REZONE IT TO C TWO, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AS A CITY, IT'S C TWO, UM, BUT STILL RELEVANT AS TO WHETHER THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE IN SUPPORT.
WOULD IT, UH, AND THEN I GUESS THE LAST QUESTION, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HERE, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE GENERALLY OPINE, LIKE WHO, WHO CAN ENTER INTO THAT KIND OF AN AGREEMENT? DOES IT, CAN IT BE A NEIGHBOR OR DOES IT NEED TO BE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION? ANY, ANY IDEA THERE THAT WOULD BE FACT SPECIFIC.
THANK YOU MR. I THINK YOU MAY SIT DOWN.
SO NOW I KNOW AND I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, BUT I WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT IT.
WHEN YOU SAY YOU CAN'T LIMIT ANYTHING, THERE IS IN FACT AS PART OF THIS REQUEST A LIMITATION ON C TWO, CORRECT? YES.
THE NON, THE NA THE NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT C TWO USES, UH, GENERALLY IN THIS CASE, ANY OF THE ALCOHOLIC SALES, UH, USES WOULD BE EXCLUDED, CORRECT? RIGHT.
SO C ONE WITH A GROCERY STORE AS CURRENTLY ZONED COULD SELL ALCOHOL? YES.
C TWO IF THE ZONING REQUEST WERE TO PASS NO ALCOHOL SALES, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
RUNS WITH THE LAND, CORRECT? CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, UM, BRIEFLY, UH, WITH RESPECT TO PLATTING AND MS. LAREDO, IF YOU WANT TO HEAD UP 'CAUSE YOU WANTED TO SPEAK AND I WAS GONNA ASK YOU THAT SAME QUESTION, UM, UH, I'LL
BUT, BUT WAIT TILL YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE TO ANSWER.
I'M GONNA ASK ONE MORE QUESTION IN THE MEANTIME AS YOU HEAD UP.
NOW, UH, ONE THING THAT I THINK HAS BEEN ALLUDED TO IS THIS IS A FIVE ACRE PLOT OF LAND.
UH, THEORETICALLY THE APPLICANT COULD REPL KEEP IT A C ONE BUILD.
I MEAN, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT, POTENTIALLY BUILD EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT HERE UNDER A MULTIUNIT C ONE PLAT.
CORRECT? IT'S A POSS IT IS A POSSIBILITY, BUT I WILL ADMIT THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH SOME GUIDELINES THROUGH THE PLATTING.
LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN IMMEDIATE, UM, STREET FRONTAGE AND WIDTH OF THE PROPERTY.
THESE ARE ITEMS THAT COULD BE OF CONCERN.
SO I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT'S AN END ALL, BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY IN THE REALM.
SORRY, MS. LOREDO, SINCE I RUDELY RAISED MY HAND AT YOU, UH, I DID WANT YOU TO COME UP AND I'M GONNA POSE THE SAME QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER DUVAL POSTED TO YOUR POSED TO YOUR HUSBAND.
UH, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD YOU PREFER A GROCERY STORE BACK THERE OR THE PIT PICKLEBALL COURT? PADDLE BALL COURT OR PADELL? I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE IT.
UM, PADELL, EXCUSE ME, EVERYONE, UH, COURT THAT IS BEING REQUESTED HERE.
UM, THAT'S A WHAT IF, RIGHT? A WHAT IF RIGHT NOW WE'RE BASED UPON THE WHAT IF OF WHAT IF THIS PICKLEBALL WOULD BE THERE.
RHOA ALREADY HAS A PICKLEBALL, WE JUST INSULT IT WITHIN THIS LAST YEAR, OUR DUES WENT UP BECAUSE OF THAT PICKLEBALL.
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DOES OFFER PICKLEBALL.SO WHY ARE WE PUTTING A NEW ESTABLISHMENT THERE AS WELL TOO? AND WE CAN GO ON ALL DAY SAYING ABOUT THE WHAT IFS, WHAT IFS, WHAT IFS THIS IS HERE, WHAT IF THIS IS HERE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE SUBJECT TO THIS.
HE HAS NEVER TOOK CARE OF HIS LAND FOR AS LONG AS WE LIVE THERE.
I HAVE MY FAMILY LIVING THERE, MY CHILD, EVERYBODY WHO COMES OVER.
WHO, THIS IS NOT A MAN OF HIS WORD.
SO HOW ARE WE GONNA KNOW THAT THIS PICKLEBALL IS GONNA BE WHAT THEY SAY IT IS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. LAREDO.
UM, LET'S TALK TO MS. FAIRMONT AGAIN.
SO ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS RAISED WAS TRAFFIC ALONG HEATH ROAD.
UH, YOU HAVE POINTED OUT THAT THERE ARE TWO, UH, USES TO THE NORTH, THE CHURCH AND THE SOCCER FIELDS, CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CHURCH, BUT YES, THE SOCCER FIELD.
OKAY, WELL THE SOCCER FIELDS AC ACCESSIBLE THROUGH HEATH ROAD, CORRECT? YES.
HOW MANY FIELDS ARE THERE? THERE? I HAVE TO PULL UP AN AERIAL FOR THAT EXISTING SOCCER FACILITY.
DOES FOUR SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN ON AN AERIAL, BUT I WOULD WANNA CHECK HOW MANY PEOPLE PLAY SOCCER AT A TIME? TYPICALLY 11 ON A TEAM.
SO 20, 22 FOLKS TYPICALLY I SAID I, I HAD A LIMITATION.
UM, AND SO FOUR COURTS, 11 PEOPLE, NO SUBS.
I NEED TO QUIT MESSING AROUND.
SO YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE A FAIRLY INTENSE USE.
SIMILAR USE BUT MORE INTENSIVE THAN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, CORRECT? CORRECT.
ALRIGHT, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER SIPES DON'T MAKE IT ABOUT SOCCER.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOU? ANYWAY, NEVERMIND.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE DONE THAT.
UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
AND THAT'S, UM, UH, PRIMARILY BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS WHY THE, THERE IS THE NEED TO CHANGE TO A C TWO AND THAT IS THE FLOOR AREA.
WHAT IS THE FLOOR AREA? IT'S 5,000.
IT IS, UH, WELL ONE BUILDING IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET AND YOU CAN HAVE AN AGGREGATE SIZE OF 15,000.
SO YOU COULD TECHNICALLY HAVE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS, JUST CAN'T GO OVER 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND FOR C TWO, WHAT WOULD BE THE BUILDING AREA? THERE IS NO MAXIMUM.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET AN HEB, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A LARGE GROCERY STORE IF IT'S A, IF A GROCERY STORE MOVED THERE, IT WOULD BE A SMALL GROCERY STORE AS CURRENTLY, AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE YES.
IF IT'S YES, IF IT'S ONE STRUCTURE.
5,000 SQUARE FEET OR MULTIPLE STRUCTURES.
THAT, THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS LEFT? LET ME JUST SEE IF I CLARIFY.
SO IF, IF THE BUILDING'S IN WHAT COUNTS AS A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING? IF IT'S ENCLOSED ON ALL SIDES OR IF IT'S OPEN BASED OFF OF ARCHITECTURAL RULES THAT ARE ENCLOSED AIR CONDITIONED? I MEAN I COULD TURN TO OUR ARCHITECT AND I FORGET BECAUSE WE CHANGED IT IN THE UDC LAST TIME.
WHAT? AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT IS.
BASICALLY YES, ENCLOSED INSIDE WALLS WOULD BE, SO IF THEY, THEY DID PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT WERE OPEN ON THE SIDES, THAT WOULD THEN, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN S ACTUALLY, SO THEY WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED OUTDOOR COURTS.
THEY WOULD ONLY BE PERMITTED INDOOR.
NOW YOU CAN'T DO OUTDOOR PICKLEBALL COURTS.
IT WOULD NEED A C ONE S, IT WOULD EVEN NEED A C TWO S.
COMMISSIONER DUBAL QUESTIONS, UH, JUST TO EXPLORE POSSIBILITIES WHILE WE'RE HERE.
UM, COULD I ASK THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, SO WE, WE HAVEN'T MADE CONTACT WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, UM, BUT UH, UH, FIRST DO YOU THINK WITH THE, UH, THE APPLICANT, DO YOU THINK THERE'D BE ANY WILLINGNESS TO OH, FOR SURE.
CONSIDER, YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT IF YOU, AND THEN YEAH.
AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, FORGIVE ME CHAIR, BUT ANY WILLINGNESS TO CONSIDER, UH, DEED RESTRICTIONS? IF THAT'S WHAT, IF THAT'S WHAT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WANTED TO NEGOTIATE YES, WE ARE, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
TO RESTRICT, UM, TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS FROM BEFORE.
UM, I, I I RE-ANSWER, RE-ASK MY QUESTIONS TO YOU.
SOME OF THE EXTRA USES IN C TWO THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
UM, AND WE CAN ALSO PUT LIMITATIONS ON THE BUSINESS.
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YEAH.THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
THAT'S PRIVATE, PRIVATE NEGOTIATION.
SO THEN, BUT WE NEED AN ENTITY YEAH.
SO THAT BRINGS US, UH, MAYBE I COULD ASK ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF MISTY OAKS TO COME UP.
WELL, MS. GONZALEZ I THINK MIGHT BE A GOOD MS. GONZALEZ, WOULD YOU WILLING TO COME? UH, 'CAUSE SHE SAID SHE TALKED TO THE TREASURER.
EVEN IF YOU KNOW WHO THE TREASURER IS.
UH, SO WE, WE HAVE TO FIND THE, I I MEAN, AT LEAST FROM THE WAY I SEE IT, WE GOTTA FIND THAT HOA, UM, I, I BELIEVE I TAKE THE WORD OF THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE THAT THEY TRIED AND WEREN'T ABLE TO REACH 'EM.
UM, WOULD, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HELP US GET IN CONTACT AND I WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT.
AND I'LL ALSO TALK TO MY NEIGHBORS HERE, THE YOUNG AND THE, AND THEN DID SOMEBODY, DID SOMEBODY FROM THE RESIDENCE WHO COULD SPEAK WITH THE HOA TAKE NOTES OF WHAT THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE JUST SAID ABOUT THINGS THAT HE, WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM, BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED AND THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER.
YEAH, I, I'D BE, YOU KNOW, I, I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR, UH, OKAY.
ANYWAYS, THAT'S JUST TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITIES BEFORE DELIBERATION.
SO THANK YOU FOR YES, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DUO.
ALRIGHT, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
UH, COMMISSIONER HUEY TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
SO AGAIN, I WANNA THANK MY NEIGHBORS FOR COMING DOWN AND, UM, LETTING US HEAR WHAT YOUR OPINIONS ARE.
UM, SO TYPICALLY FOR THIS KIND OF CASES, WE TEND TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOUR OPINIONS ARE PRIOR TO COMING INTO HERE TO THIS HEARING.
AND UM, AND PERHAPS I NEEDED TO DO A LITTLE MORE HOMEWORK TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR CONCERNS WERE.
AND SO AGAIN, UH, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T LIVE FAR FROM YOU.
I TRAVEL ON HEATH ALL THE TIME.
AND, UM, SO MYSELF, I'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVES, SO I WAS ABLE TO GET SOME OF THOSE, UM, QUESTIONS I HAD CLEARED UP.
BUT APPARENTLY THAT INFORMATION WHERE THERE WAS MAILED OUT TO YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I WOULD OFFER THIS TO YOU, IS I WOULD FACILITATE A MEETING BETWEEN ALL INTERESTED PARTIES AND, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT SIX, WE HAVE A FIELD OFFICE RIGHT ON TEZO AND I'LL GET WITH THE STAFF THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CONFERENCE ROOM AVAILABLE SO WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK THERE IS A WAY AHEAD THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO ALL PARTIES.
YOU KNOW, LEAVING THE PROPERTY UNDEVELOPED, I DON'T BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE FOR LANDOWNER BECAUSE THEY HAVE RIGHTS AS A LANDOWNER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU AS RESIDENTS ALSO HAVE RIGHTS.
OKAY? SO AGAIN, THERE IS AN ANSWER THERE THAT I BELIEVE WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO ALL PARTIES.
SO AGAIN, TO A RESIDENTS AND TO THE APPLICANTS, PLEASE LET ME ALLOW TO, ALLOW ME TO FACILITATE A MEETING BETWEEN YOU AND I WILL WORK WITH THE DISTRICT STAFF, DISTRICT SIX STAFF TO FIND OUT AND BRING IN, IF POSSIBLE YOUR HOA REPRESENTATIVES.
SO, MR. CHAIR, AT THIS TIME, I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS CASE FOR TWO WEEKS TO IT'S 2ND OF JUNE.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 22 FOR TWO WEEKS TO JUNE 2ND.
COMMISSIONER, VE AND THEN SIPES? UH, O ONLY, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T, OR BECAUSE WE, BECAUSE THE PARTIES HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION YET.
I'D ONLY, UH, ONLY CONTENTION WOULD BE TO, WELL, ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE IF FOUR WEEKS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE IN ORDER TO SCHEDULE IT WITH ALL THE PARTIES AFTER YOU IDENTIFY THE PARTIES.
DO YOU WANT TO STATE THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? YY YEAH.
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UH, FOR A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE.THERE IS A PROPOSED FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
COMMISSIONER HUEY, DO YOU ACCEPT? I ACCEPT.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER PANA, DO YOU ACCEPT? YES.
THE MOTION IS AMENDED TO A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 16TH FOR FOUR WEEKS, UH, DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER SIPES, I'M, I'M, I'M GLAD YOU CHANGED IT TO THE FOUR WEEKS.
UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT DEED RESTRICTIONS,
I KNOW EVERYONE ELSE APOLOGIZED AT LEAST, BUT, UM, I WOULD CAUTION, I WOULD WHEN, OR I'M JUST GONNA SHARE OPINION WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE COME UP AND THEY TALK ABOUT DE RESTRICTION, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
HOWEVER, UM, THOSE INVOLVE LAWYER FEES AND CAN BE EXPENSIVE DEPENDING ON HOW, HOW THEY'RE WORDED.
UM, UH, MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS HAD, UH, DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WE'VE ENFORCED.
THOSE HAVE COST SIGNI SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
UM, AND SO SOMETIMES I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A, AND I AND I AM NOT TRYING TO DISPARAGE
BUT, UH, SOMETIMES I DON'T KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AS THE END ALL BE ALL OF HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 16TH BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PANA FOR ITEM NUMBER 22.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL SEE YOU IN FOUR WEEKS.
IF YOU WOULD PASS ALONG, POTENTIALLY MR. COLE'S NUMBER TO MS. BERRYMAN.
OR, OR MS. WEISLER AND THEY'LL PROBABLY GIVE YOU THEIR CARDS IF THEY'RE BETTER THAN ME AND CARRY THEM WITH THEM.
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NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 29, CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MAY 5TH, 2026 ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES.ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES, AMENDMENTS, THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED ON THE MINUTES? HEARING NONE.
THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION.
ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, THIS CAN BE DONE BY ACCLAMATION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MAY 5TH, 2026 ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES.
ANY ABSTENTIONS MOTION? ONE ABSTENTION.
IS THERE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED.