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>> MUNGIA: GOOD MORNING. THE TIME IS NOW 10:01 A.M. ON MAY 26, 2026, AND THE MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> CLERK:
>> MUNGIA: ALSO. AWESOME. THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND? MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. (AYES.)
>> MUNGIA: ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE ONE PERSON FROM THE PUBLIC. SINCYNTHIA CAVAZOS.
PRESENTATION? >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS AMINE TOHMAZ, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. WE RECEIVED THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST IN 2025 FROM DISTRICT FIVE, AND THE MAIN REASON FOR IT IS TO CONSIDER PROGRAM AND POLICIES TO ADDRESS QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES CAUSED BY VACANT, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, BUILDINGS, OWNED BY ABSENTEE PROPERTY OWNERS. SO TO START WITH, WE DO HAVE, OBVIOUSLY, THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM, YOU'RE AWARE OF IT. IT STARTED IN 2015 AS A PILOT PROGRAM, AND THEN IT BECAME PERMANENT, AND WE DID A COUPLE OF EXPANSIONS ON THE PROGRAM IN 2017 AND 2023. THE LAST ONE IN 2023 WAS TO ADD 1,000-FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN ANY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SCHOOL AND ANY LICENSED DAY CARE. SO WITH ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE THERE, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN AREAS LIKE THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, HISTORIC LANDMARKS SH HISTORIC DISTRICTS, HALF A MILE AROUND THE MILITARY BASES, AND AS I MENTIONED, THE SCHOOLS, THE BUFFER AROUND THE SCHOOLS. SO WITH THAT, IT DOESN'T COVER THE CITY COMPLETELY, IT COVERS ABOUT 30 TO 35% CITYWIDE. ONE BIG ITEM HERE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, I GUESS, AGREEING ON, THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM IS ONLY TALKING ABOUT VACANT STRUCTURES, NOT VACANT LOTS.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANT LOTS IN THE CITY, SO THIS DOESN'T COVER THE VACANT LOT ITSELF. IT COVERS THE STRUCTURES. SO THE CCR HAD DIFFERENT REQUESTS, BUT THEY KIND OF BOIL DOWN INTO THREE CATEGORIES: PROPERTY, REGISTRATION AND INSPECTIONS, FINE, PENALTIES AND ENFORCEMENT, ACQUISITION AND RECEIVERSHIP. AND I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY.
IN REGARDS TO REGISTRATION AND INSPECTIONS, TODAY WE HAVE FOUR EMPLOYEES IN THIS PROGRAM. THEY MANAGE OVER 1,000 ACTIVE CASES AND ONE EMPLOYEE IDENTIFIES THE CASES AND CREATES THE CASE, BASICALLY. AND WE JUST ADDED A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AS OF OCTOBER 1, THIS FISCAL YEAR. THANK YOU FOR THAT, WHICH IS GOING TO HELP US A LOT WITH, AGAIN, INSPECTIONS AND ENFORCEMENT.
TODAY THE REGISTRATION DOES REQUIRE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SUBMIT A PLAN OF ACTION TO COMPLY WITH THE STANDARD OF CARE, AND AS I JUST MENTIONED, ADDING THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS ADDING CAPACITY FOR INCREASED CITATIONS AND BOOST REGISTRATION. IN REGARDS TO FINES, PENALTIES AND ENFORCEMENT, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE.
SO ANY TIME WE DO AN ABATEMENT, SUCH AS CLEANING, SECURING OR EVEN DEMOLITION, IF IT GETS TO THAT POINT, WE CAN PLACE A LEAN ON THE PROPERTY. THE ONLY CAVEAT, IF IT'S HOMESTEAD, WE CANNOT PLACE LIENS ON HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES. ONE OF THE REQUESTS IN THE CCR TALKS ABOUT CAN THE CITY FORECLOSE ON A PROPERTY? BY STATE LAW, THE COUNTY IS THE ONLY ENTITY THAT CAN FORECLOSE ON A PROPERTY, AND THAT'S DUE TO DELINQUENCY IN PROPERTY TAXES.
WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE WORKING AND EXPLORING AN ILA, AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE IF THERE IS A WAY WE CAN PUT IT TOGETHER AND HAVE IT DOCUMENTED WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY DIRECT OR PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH SOME NUISANCE VACANT PROPERTIES, THAT WAY MAYBE THEY CAN WORK ON IT AND LOOK AT, IF THEY OWE TAXES, THEY MAY BE TAKEN TO FORECLOSURE A LITTLE BIT SOONER. ONE OF THE REQUESTS IS CAN WE DO A SLIDING SCALE FOR REGISTRATION FEE? THERE IS NO LEGAL ISSUES WITH THAT, WE CAN
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DEFINITELY DO THAT. THERE IS A COUPLE OF CITIES AND TOWNS THAT THEY DO SOME OF THAT, AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS US SOME OF THAT.SO, FOR EXAMPLE, DALLAS, YOU REGISTER FOR FREE IN THE PROGRAM.
IF YOU DO RECEIVE TWO TO THREE CITATIONS, THEN YOU BECOME -- THEY CALL IT BASIC, SO YOU GO AND PAY THE $124 FOR THAT. IF YOU GET MORE THAN THREE VIOLATIONS, THEN THEY CONSIDER IT A PROBLEM PROPERTY, AND NOW THE FEE GOES UP TO 450. IN SAN ANTONIO, WE HAVE IT SET TO SINGLE FAMILIES, 400. ALL OTHERS ARE 900. AGAIN, LEGALLY, THERE IS 'MO ISNO ISSUE WITH THE SLIDING SCALE INCREASE, BUT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE HERE, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE NEED DIRECTION FROM YOU, IS INSTEAD OF DOING IT FOR THE REGISTRATION, WE KEEP OUR FEES AS IS, BUT WE MAKE THE PENALTIES OR THE CITATIONS ON KIND OF SCALING. SO THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE LOWER AMOUNT, THE SECOND ONE HIGHER AND SO FORTH. THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF THE PROPERTY.
THE CITATION GOES WITH THE PROPERTY. THE FEAR IS WE ISSUE A REGISTRATION FOR A PROPERTY TO DAY, THEN THEY SELL IT, WHAT HAPPENS? DO WE GO TO THE HIGHER REGISTRATION FEE OR NOT, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, I'M A NEW OWNER. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE CONFUSING. BUT WITH CITATIONS, IT GOES WITH THE PROPERTY.
THE THIRD ITEM IS ACQUISITION AND RECEIVERSHIP.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE STRATEGIC HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, THE SHIP PLAN, AND IT DOES HAVE STRATEGIES TO ESTABLISH A LAND BANKING PROGRAM THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES ON, AND AT THE SAME TIME, NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES IS WORKING ON AN ILA WITH US WITH THE COUNTY IN REGARDS TO NUISANCE AND VACANT PROPERTIES. NOW, GOING BACK TO RECEIVERSHIP, STATE LAW 214 DOES PROVIDE THAT, AND THERE IS NO LEGAL ISSUES WITH IT.
WE CAN DEFINITELY IMPLEMENT THE RECEIVERSHIP.
THE CCR TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF RECEIVERSHIPS.
AT LEAST ONE OF THEM IS LEGAL, AND WE CAN DO IT. THE OTHER ONES ARE LEGAL BUT THEY DON'T APPLY TO THIS SPECIFIC CASE, ANSDZ IF YOU WANT MORE DETAILS, I HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE, SEVITA, SHE CAN EXPLAIN THAT MORE.
NOW, DALLAS IS USING THE RECEIVERSHIP PROGRAM. THE VA 53 OT OR THE ISSUE THEY'RE RUNNING INTO IS TO FIND AN INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION THAT'S WILLING TO PUT THE MONEY UP FRONT BEFORE THEY REALLY BECOME OWNERS.
BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT, BUT NOT REALLY LEGALLY.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE DEED. THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, FIX IT, TRY TO DO IT BUT NORMALLY, IT'S HARD TO FIND AN INDIVIDUAL OR COMPANY THAT'S WILLING TO PUT THE MONEY UP FRONTED.
SO THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT DALLAS IS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH.
SO IN SUMMARY, AGAIN, THOSE THREE KIND OF ISSUES, SO ON THE REGISTRATION AND INSPECTION, WE -- OUR RECOMMENDATION IS JUST TO CONTINUE WITH THE EFFORTS THAT WE HAVE. FINES, PENALTIES AND ENFORCEMENT, AGAIN, CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THE ILA WITH THE COUNTY, AND LOOK AT THE SLIDING SCALE REGISTRATION FEE OR THE PENALTY FEE, IF YOU WILL. ACQUISITION, JUST KEEP IT GOING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES, CONTINUE THAT EFFORT WITH THE SHIP PROGRAM, AND THEN RECEIVERSHIP PROGRAM AGAIN EXPLORE MORE AND FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE WE'RE GOING TO USE, IF POSSIBLE.
SO WE ARE HERE JUST TO, AGAIN, GIVE YOU OVERALL SUMMARY OF THE CCR AND WE STARTED WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON THE ILA, BUT WE WANT BASICALLY FEEDBACK FROM YOU SO WE CAN COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND COME BACK TO PCDC WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN TECHNICALLY ASSESS THE IMPACT ON THE PROPOSED PROGRAM ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE EXISTING OPERATION CAPACITY. AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
MAINGZ THANK YOU AMIN, I APPRECIATE IT. WE'LL BEGIN COUNCILWOMAN
DISCUSSION. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO? >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR, THANK YOU, AMIN AND STAFF. THE GOAL OF THE CCR IS TO ENSURE WE'RE MEETING THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND WE KNOW OFTENTIMES VACANT STRUCTURE TURNS INTO A VACANT LOT WHICH THEN SERVES AS A HOST OF SO MANY OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO PLEASED TO SEE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF THE FORECLOSURES. I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH A COUPLE OF OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THEN A CANDIDATE FOR COUNTY JUDGE ABOUT THE ROLE AND IMPACT THAT HAVING THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IN TERMS OF VACANT AND NUISANCE PROPERTIES CAN SERVE, RIGHT? WHEN WE SEE A VACANT STRUCTURE THAT HAS BACK TAXES, LIENS, IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE SEE THE TREND IN WHICH PRIMARILY IN THE URBAN CORES WHERE WE'RE SEEING MANY OF THESE VACANT STRUCTURES.
AGAIN, RIGHT, THE GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT RECEIVERSHIP. I UNDERSTAND THE POINT IN THE TREND IN DALLAS IN
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WHICH HAVING THE UPFRONT MONEY. AND WE HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME WITH THE FOLKS INTERESTED IN BOND DOLLARS OR ANY GRANT WITH THE CITY, THE FOLKS COVER THE COST FIRST AND GET REIMBURSED, SO THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HEAR. I'M CURIOUS WHAT SOME OF THE NONPROFITS THAT PROVIDE SUPPORT -- BECAUSE THE TREND THAT WE SEE IN DISTRICT FIVE IN PARTICULAR IS DAWS THERE ISN'T A CLEAR TITLE, BACK TAXES, ET CETERA. AND I'M CURIOUS IF WHETHER IT'S MEXICAN AMERICAN UNITY COUNCIL OR WHATEVER THE NONPROFIT MAY BE, IF THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS. I UNDERSTAND IT COSTS MONEY, RIGHT, FOR THEIR SERVICES, BUT WHAT THEY WOULD SEE AS MOST IMPACTFUL IN SERVING LIKE THEIR CONSTITUENCY NEED, ALONGSIDE WITH OURS, OF COURSE.IN TERMS OF THE LEANS FOR ABATEMENT COSTS -- OR RATHER -- LET ME REWIND.
IN TERMS OF THE SLIDING SCALE, PART OF THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR TEAM WAS WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE FOLKS WHO INHIINHER IT A PROPERTY SO THEY'RE NOT PREPARED TO COVER THE PROPERTY TAXES FOR THAT ADDITIONAL PROPERTY. SO I THINK WHAT I WOULD ENVISION IS A SLIDING SCALE WHICH IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT, IS IT AN LLC, IS IT SOMEONE WHO OWNS MULTIPLE VACANT PROPERTIES AND/OR IS IT SOMEONE WHO OWNS ONE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY THAT MAY BE VACANT AND HAVE VIOLATIONS OR WHATEVER THE CASE-BUY-CASE ISSUE MAY BE AND A SCALE IN WHICH THAT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION. I UNDERSTAND IDENTIFYING WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY CAN BE A HUGE TASK, BUT MANY OF OUR TEAMS MET WITH TOLD ME, AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY -- THEM, BUT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PULL THE DATA IN TERMS OF THE LLC OWNERSHIP, SO ON AND SO FORTH SO I THINK THERE WOULD BE VALUE IN EXPLORING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND IT CAN HELP US IDENTIFY WHO OWNS MULTIPLE PROPERTIES AND WHO MAY JUST BE THAT PERSON WHO INHERITED A PROPERTY AND DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO PAY THE TAXES.
LASTLY, I KNOW -- I BELIEVE IT'S TARRANT COUNTY, THEY'VE -- THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED IDENTIFY WHO HAS A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION BUT IT'S A VACANT STRUCTURE, RIGHT? I THINK ESPECIALLY IN A TIME WHERE WE'RE PINCHING PENNIES THERE WOULD BE VALUE IN PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY WITH THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO SEE HOW MANY VACANT STRUCTURES MAY HAVE A HOMESTEAD STATUTE. SO SOMETHING WORTH EXPLORING AS WELL. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND REALLY EAGER TO SEE THAT MOVE ALONG. PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION THAT OFTENTIMES I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS IN THE HISTORIC COMMUNITY OR THE PRESERVATION COMMUNITY, RATHER, IS UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS VACANT BUILDING'S PROGRAM ISN'T CITYWIDE, RIGHT? SO TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, THEY HEAR A VACANT CITY PROGRAM AND THEY THINK IT APPLIES TO ALL VACANT STRUCTURES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I ALWAYS EMPHASIZE, IT'S LIMITED TO SPECIFIC AREAS, HISTORIC DISTRICTS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO I THINK THERE IS VALUE IN EXPANDING THE PROGRAM BEYOND THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, BEYOND HISTORIC DISTRICTS, BECAUSE THAT'S AN EXPECTATION THAT MY CONSTITUENTSY HAS THAT IT'S TACKLING THE NEEDS OF ALL VACANT STRUCTURE.
THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS FOR NOW. THANK YOU.
>> MUNGIA: COUNCILMAN KAUR? >> KAUR: THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD,
COUNCILMAN. >> CASTILLO: TEE OWE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT BECAUSE I FEEL IT'S OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FACING THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. I THINK THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE AND I WOULD PUSH US TO THINK BEYOND WHAT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED HERE WHICH TO ME FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE LET'S KEEP DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING EXCEPT WORK WITH AN ILA. I AFFIRM WHAT COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO SAID ABOUT EXPANDING IT TO THE WHOLE CITY. IT STARTED OFF IN NHP BUT WE REALIZED THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT FIT BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNICATION WITH CODE, I'M GLAD THAT DSD HAS THIS NOW BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A CITYWIDE PROGRAM THAT EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND.
THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, LAST SUMMER WE TRIED GETTING A LIST OF ALL OF OUR VACANT PROPERTIES AND CREATING, LIKE, A GOOGLE MAPS LISTING OF DISTRICT ONE SO PEOPLE COULD SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE VACANT PROPERTY. BECAUSE THE PROCESS DOES TAKE SO LONG FOR IT TO GO THROUGH, IF IT IS GOING TO BE THROUGH BSB.
THAT PROCESS TAKES, LIKE, MULTIPLE YEARS. WE WOULD GET CALLS ALL THE TIME. THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING.
YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY. AND SO I THINK EVEN JUST PROVIDING BETTER INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY, WHERE IF WE COULD CREATE -- I KNOW WE LOOKED AT THE DASHBOARD THAT DSD AND CODE OFFICERS USE, BUT IF WE COULD VISUALIZE WHERE ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE, SO THAT RESIDENTS CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING, IF THERE WAS A VIOLATION SUBMITTED, THAT WAY THERE'S MORE CLEAR TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION VERSUS HAVING TO CALL OUR OFFICE AND US HAVING TO CALL DSD AND THEN TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
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SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TASK THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO CONSIDER.BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO LIVE -- LIKE WHEN I WAS BLOCK WALKING, EVEN LAST YEAR, WHEN YOU DO LIVE NEXT TO A VACANT PROPERTY, IT CAN BE THE WORST THING, AND IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THOSE STREETS. COUNCILMEMBER MUNGIA AND COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO BROUGHT US THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH -- OR TECHNOLOGY RESOURCE CALLED TOLEMI, AND I KNOW THEY BRIEFED YOU ALL OP IT BEFORE, BASICALLY, IT'S AN INCREDIBLY COOL SOURCE WHERE THEY OVERLAY MULTIPLE SOURCES OF DATA TO SHOW YOU WHERE THEIR VACANT LAND, WHAT THE POSSIBLE ZONING FOR IT IS. IF THEY'RE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE TOD LANE, THEY CAN OVERLAY THAT. SOME OF OUR OTHER CITIES -- DALLAS ACTUALLY USES IT. YOU CAN DECIDE AS A COUNCIL AND CITY WHAT TO MAKE PUBLIC. SO SOME OF THAT CAN BE MADE PUBLIC, SOME OF THAT CAN BE USED FOR A DEVELOPER TOOL TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS POSSIBLE ON A SPECIFIC PIECE OF LAND, WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD REGULATIONS ARE. IT'S REALLY POWERFUL.
YOU CAN ALSO EVEN OVERLAY ACS DATA, YOU CAN OVERLAY POLICE CRIME DATA, IT'S LIKE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT THEY CAN PUT ONTO THIS TOOL, AND I ARE REALLY -- THE PRICE THEY QUOTED ME FOR A CITY OF OUR SIDE, THEY DO IT PER INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT WAS ABOUT 200,000 A YEAR, WHICH TO ME, FOR EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, IS INCREDIBLE. WE DON'T RIGHT NOW HAVE ANY WAY OF TELLING ME WHERE ALL THE VACANT LOTS ARE IN DISTRICT ONE.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD -- I'VE SPOKEN TO SOME FOLKS ABOUT IT AND I FEEL LIKE THERE IS ENOUGH SUPPORT TO AT LEAST FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT A PART OF THE BUDGET THIS YEAR AND I KNOW IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE AN RFP, BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME TO BE MUST HAVE FOR -- TO BE ABLE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE OUR COMMUNITY IS. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE -- TO THE ESCALATING FINE STRUCTURE, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD IDEA. I LIKE THE IDEA OF STARTING WITH ZERO AT VOLUNTARY, BECAUSE MAYBE WE GET MORE PEOPLE REGISTERED INTO THE PROGRAM. AND THEN -- IT'S IMPORTANT TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO WAS SAYING, WE HAD A RESIDENT THAT BOUGHT A HOUSE THAT HAD CITATIONS ON IT THAT HAD NO IDEA -- AUDIO] -- WHEN THERE IS A NEW OWNER, THAT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM TO SAY, LIKE, HEY, WE UNDERSTAND YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU TO SOMETHING THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER WAS DOING. AND SO I THINK THAT'S -- AND ACTUALLY, THIS WASN'T EVEN FOR A VACANT HOME. IT WAS JUST FOR -- IT WAS FOR PERMITS THAT HADN'T BEEN INSPECTED. AND SO I JUST THINK IT'S TO -- WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSITIVE WHEN WE DO HAVE OWNERSHIP CHANGE AND DETERMINE, LIKE, IS THIS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S BUYING THIS HOME TO LIVE IN IT AND NOW IS, LIKE, STUCK WITH ALL THESE FINES. SO I THINK HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THESE KIND OF CASES IS IMPORTANT, BUT I DO THINK AN ESCALATED FEE STRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY GETTING CITATIONS.
SO WE'VE DONE IT FOR PROACTIVE, AND I THINK IT -- YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT, OKAY, IF IT'S BEEN TWO MONTHS, THEY HAVEN'T COMPLETED THE OVERGROWN GRASS OR THEY'RE NOT BOARDED UP, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT THEY GET ANOTHER HIGHER FEE ON THAT. AND THEN THE LAST THING, IF THIS IS JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP ON IF YOU COULD -- FOR THE FINES AND PENALTIES, CAN YOU GIVE US, LIKE, A LIST OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU COULD BE -- YOU COULD GET A FINE OR FEE FOR BY DIFFERENT TYPE? LIKE I OBVIOUSLY KNOW ABATEMENT COSTS CAN BE A LIEN ON, BUT WHAT ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU COULD GET A LIEN OR CITATION FOR WHEN IT COMES TO VACANT PROPERTIES, JUST SO THAT MY TEAM, WHO GETS THE CALLS, HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY COULD TELL THE RESIDENTS -- THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE.
AND THEN LASTLY, I DON'T FULLY -- LIKE WE'VE LOOKED AT RECEIVERSHIP IN MY OFFICE, TOO, MY PREVIOUS CHIEF RYAN WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF I COULD GET ONE MORE LINE, BECAUSE I DID HEAR PART OF THAT DESCRIPTION OF, LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO IN THE CCR, COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO RECOMMENDED USING HOUSING BOND DOLLARS TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, SO ARE WE SAYING THAT WE HAVE THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE TO SOMEONE WHO'S JUST WILLING TO PUT THE RENOVATION IN IT.
I GUESS I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS OF THAT PROGRAM AND WHY IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL
. >> TOHMAZ: TALKED TO DALLAS FOLKS ABOUT THE
SPECIFIC -- >> HEY, COUNCILWOMAN, IS YOUR REQUEST SPECIFIC TO
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RECEIVERSHIPS AND WHAT THAT PROCESS IS IN. >> KAUR: YES.
I'M JUST CURIOUS OF WHAT THE CONSTRUCT LOOKS LIKE.
>> RECEIVERSHIPS, THE ONE THAT'S APPLICABLE, THERE ARE SEVERAL STEPS REQUIRED. SO IF THERE IS A PROPERTY THAT'S CONSIDERED A NUISANCE, THERE ARE THREE REQUIREMENTS. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF HISTORY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROD.
TWO, THAT THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE HEARD BY THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, AND, THREE, AFTER THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD, PETITION IS FILED.
IT'S A JOINT CHAPTER 54/CHAPTER 214 TO ASK THE COURT TO APPOINT A RECEIVER. BUT BEFORE WE GET TO COURT TO APPOINT A RECEIVER, WE NEED TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL OR AN ORGANIZATION IDENTIFIED WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO BE APPOINTED AS RECEIVER.
AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING FOR -- I DON'T KNOW, CATHY WILL REMEMBER, SINCE 2007, 2008, TO GET RECEIVERS FOR HISTORIC STRUCTURES.
NO ONE HAS BEEN WILLING TO STEP UP TO SERVE. THE CITY CANNOT BE THE RECEIVER, SO THAT IS THE BIG STEP BEFORE WE CAN GO INTO COURT AND FILE IN DISTRICT COURT. FIRST WE WOULD HAVE TO SHOW THE BUILDING STANDARDS BOARD FOUND IT TO BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE IN NEED OF ABATEMENT.
WE WOULD SUBMIT THAT EVIDENCE. AND THEN REQUEST THE COURT TO APPOINT AN IDENTIFIED RECEIVER, AND SPECIFICALLY IT COULD BE AN INDIVIDUAL OR AN ORGANIZATION, BUT THEY MUST HAVE DEMONSTRATED
HISTORY OF REHABBING PROPERTIES. >>
>> KAUR: NEW OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. >> I'LL BE A LITTLE MORE BASIC. THAT'S OKAY. SEVITA.
THEY'RE A TEMPORARY STEP, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT THE INTENDED DESTINATION OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? SO THE OWNER CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS, WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS SEVITA DESCRIBED, RIGHT, AND WE FIND A RECEIVER WHO WILL TEMPORARILY ACT IN GOOD FAITH TO MAKE THE REPAIRS NECESSARY, BUT NOT TO BE THE OWNER, TO TRANSITION TO AN ULTIMATE OWNER OR PERHAPS BACK TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER IS THE IDEA, RIGHT? SO THEY DON'T INTEND TO OWN OR PROFIT FROM IT, THEY'RE JUST AN INDEPENDENT BODY -- IT'S OFTEN DONE IN BANKRUPTCIES OR OTHER AVENUES. THIS IS A DIFFERENT VEIN, RIGHT, AROUND NUISANCE PROPERTY BUT IT HAPPENS IN BANKRUPTCY WHERE SOMEONE WILL HELP REHAB WHAT'S GOING ON, THEN THE PROPERTY IS, YOU KNOW, MARKETED AND SOLD AND THE BANKRUPTCY GETS RESOLVED BECAUSE THE ASSET HAS BEEN SORT OF REHABBED AND
HELPED. >> KAUR: THE PERSON WHO -- LIKE IN THAT EXAMPLE, RIGHT, WHEN THAT ASSET IS SOLD, THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION GETS REPAID FOR THEIR WORK AND ESSENTIALLY PROBABLY MORE BECAUSE THEY CAPTURED IT AT A MUCH LOWER PRICE, SO I'M TRYING --
>> HAS BEEN REHABBED AND THE PROPERTY IS SOLD. ONLY AT THAT POINT CAN THE RECEIVER SUBMIT ALL THE MONIES EXPENDED, PLUS A 10% RECEIVER FEE.
AT THAT POINT, THE JUDGE WILL ORDER THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT GETS PAID FIRST. FIRST, ALL COURT COSTS ARE TO BE PAID. AND THEN SECOND, THE RECEIVER GETS REIMBURSED FOR ALL THE COSTS EXPENDED. ONE DIFFERENCE FROM LIKE THE BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDINGS, A RECEIVER, IF AT THE END OF THE DAY CAN BECOME A PURCHASER UNDER 214. IF THE PROPERTY DOES GET SOLD, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR ALL THE COSTS ASSOCIATED, THE RECEIVER HAS A PRIORITY LIEN ON THE PROPERTY FOR ADDITIONAL MONIES TO BE ABLE TO REIMBURSED WHEN THE PROPERTY IS EVENTUALLY SOLD, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS FIRST RIGHTS OF REFUSAL, IF THERE'S A SALE.
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>> KAUR: AND HOW IS THE MARKET PRICE DETERMINED AT THE POINT OF SALE?
>> AT -- IT WOULD -- THAT'S SOMETHING AN EXPERT WOULD BE ON THE STAND OR AN APPRAISER TO DETERMINE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT IS PRESENTED TO THE COURT. AND ULTIMATELY THE COURT
WILL DETERMINE WHAT FAIR MARKET VALUE IS. >> SO, I MEAN -- I'M GOING TO BE OVERLY SIMPLISTIC HERE, BUT IT'S A LIMBO STEP, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THE PROPERTY IS IN LIMBO WHEN IN RECEIVERSHIP, RIGHT? SO THERE'S LOTS OF KEK TECHNICALITY ANDS SORT OF COMPLEXITIES TO THAT STEP, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
>> KAUR: UNDERSTOOD. I JUST EXPECT A LITTLE BIT MORE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO STEP IN AND HELP. SO IN THE CCR, COULD WE USE HOUSING BOND DOLLARS TO INCENTIVIZE THE 10%, RIGHT, SO MAYBE NOW IT'S NOT -- IF ONE WERE NOT LOOKING AT -- JUST BECAUSE HISTORIC IS WAY MORE CHALLENGING THAN ANYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T REDO WINDOWS.
I'M SORRY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PLENTY OF TIME.
HISTORIC IS WAY MORE CHALLENGING, SO IF WE'RE EXPANDING THE PROGRAM TO THE WHOLE CITY, LIKE THE PERSON THAT FLIPPED MY HOUSE, RIGHT, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO FLIP THIS HOUSE AND WE GEARING TO GIVE YOU 20% OF THE COST THAT YOU DO AS A SUPPLEMENT FROM HOUSING BOND DOLLARS, IF YOU FLIP THAT HOUSE FOR 30 K 30K OR HOW MUCH IN REHAB COST TO MAKE IT LIVABLE, AND THEN THEY'RE GETTING AN EXTRA -- THEIR BENEFIT OF DOING THAT WORK IS THE 20K WHICH ACTUALLY, DEPENDING ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW, WHAT THEY
WOULD HAVE MADE IF THEY WERE FLIPPING THE -- >> MUNGIA: NO, THAT'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION. I THINK ALSO USING HOUSING BOND DOLLARS TO KEEP THE HOUSE AFFORDABLE, RIGHT, I DON'T THINK YOUR HOUSE IS GOING TO BE IN THE 120, YOU KNOW AREA, SO A LOT MORE DUE DILIGENCE TO COME BACK WITH AND PROVIDE SOME GREATER DETAIL ON THAT, YEAH.
COUNCILMAN GALVAN? >> GALVAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
AND THANK YOU, FOR THE PRESENTATION, THE CLARIFICATIONS THERE, AND . REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS REFRESH AND RELOOK AT THIS PROGRAM AND WAYS THAT WE CAN ENHANCE IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO FOR THE CCR. THERE'S A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY FREQUENTLY ABOUT LANDBANCS AS WELL, SO GLAD TO SEE IT'S SORT OF SLOWLY GETTING THERE IN FORM.
PRIORITIZING THAT I LA, I THINK IT WILL RESOLVE A LOT OF ISSUES.
GETTING THIS PROPERTY INTO MORE PRODUCTIVE USE, NOT ONLY FOR THAT PERSON WHO'S DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE, BUT ALSO FOR THE LARGER COMMUNITY, RIGHT? RESIDENTS ARE NOT ONLY LOOKING FOR SECURED, EMPTY BUILDING, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO BE STABLE, LOOKING HOPEFULLY FOR A LOT, TOO, ONE DAY, TO BE STABLE AS WELL, OBVIOUSLY NOT A DUMPING IT, WHATEVER, SOME KIND OF COMMUNITY ASSET IN SOME FORM.
SO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT WAYS WE CAN GET TO THAT. AND I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS PRIORITIZING THAT ILA. I KNOW STAFF WAS WORKING ON THAT, AND, OF COURSE, THE COUNTY IS ANOTHER PARTNER THAT WE HAVE TO BRING ALONG WITH US A LITTLE BIT, TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN WORK ON THAT, SINCE, AND IF THERE HAS BEEN, WHAT HAS THAT BEEN LIKE? WHAT'S THE PROGRESS ON THAT BEEN?
>> TOHMAZ: WE JUST RECENTLY STARTED TALKING TO THE COUNTY.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THEY HAVE STAFF CHANGES RECENTLY AND THEY'RE MORE OPEN TO THE DISCUSSION. WE TRIED TO DO THIS FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO AND THEY WERE NOT OPEN TO ANY CONVERSATION. AT LEAST NOW THEY'RE OPEN. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SOLID YET, WE'RE STARTING
THAT CONVERSATION. >> GALVAN: THAT'S GREAT. EAGER TO SEE HOW THAT PANS OUT. I'M INTERESTED TO SEE, TOO, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE BIGGEST PRIORITY, THE BIGGEST PRIORITY SHOULD STILL BE GETTING THE ILA, BUT INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT THE COST ANALYSIS -- I DON'T KNOW IF ANALYSIS IS THE RIGHT WORD FOR IT -- BUT THE COST BENEFIT FOR DOING THIS KIND OF WORK FOR BOTH THE STATE AND COUNT CITY, THIS INVESTMENT IN ADDRESSING THESE VACANT LOTS -- SORRY, VACANT BUILDINGS AND HOPEFULLY BECOME INTO PRODUCTIVE USE, WHAT'S THE KIND OF RETURN THAT WE'LL SEE THERE FOR THE LARGER COMMUNITY BENEFIT OF IT ALL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD MAYBE ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO TAKE IT A BIT MORE SERIOUSLY, BUT AS A POTENTIAL -- WE'RE MAKING SURE THESE PLACES ARE NO LONGER DILAPIDATED OR VIEWED IN THAT WAY AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS GET MORE INVESTMENT IN SOME FORM, JUST INTERESTING IN SEEING HOW THAT CAN ENCOURAGE OR PUSH FOLKS ALONG. I KNOW IN THE PAST WE DID SOME CONTRACTING -- WELL, REMEMBER -- AROUND THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS DSD OR HSD OR THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT THAT TALKED ABOUT THIS KIND OF WORK, WAS THERE ANY
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FINDINGS FROM THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL? >> IT WAS NEIGHBORHOOD
HOUSING SERVICES. >> GALVAN: OKAY. I GUESS LARGELY IN THE QUESTION, WAS THERE ANY FINDING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THIS REFRESH
AND IN THIS RELOOK AT THIS? >> I THINK WHAT THAT REPORT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED WAS BASICALLY MANY OF THE THINGS WERE OUTLINED IN THE CCR, SO SEVERAL STRATEGIES AND HOW WE CAN BRING THEM TOGETHER. THAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED WITH THE COUNTY AND SISD IN OUR ILA, HOW WE CAN USE THE PROCESS AT THE STATE LEVEL SPECIFICALLY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO TURN SOME OF THOSE TAX
DELINQUENT PROPERTY INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. >> GALVAN: GOT IT.
>> T THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT HIGHLIGHTED, THAT PROCESS AND ALSO TRYING TO BE STRATEGIC -- ALL OF THEM ARE GOOD FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR VARIOUS REASONS, SO HOW DO WE KIND OF PRAY PRIORITIZE BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE GOOD BUT WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES. WHAT IS THE MOST BENEFICIAL FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED IF WE WANT TO KIND OF PURSUE
THAT STRATEGY. >> GALVAN: GOT IT. THANK YOU.
I THINK, AGAIN, THAT'S THE BIGGEST FOCUS HERE. OF COURSE SUPPORTIVE COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO'S CCR IN TOTALITY AND OF COURSE THE SPECIFICS ON MAKING IT A SLIDING SCALE AND TO YOUR INSTRUCTIONS HERE, TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE ABLE TO COME INTO NOT ONLY COMPLIANCE BUT INTO PATHWAYS THAT LEAD TO MORE PRODUCTIVE USE WHETHER IT'S REFURBISHING THE HOME OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST STRATEGY HERE.
WITH THE MOVE FROM THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM INTO DSD, ARE WE LOOKING FOR THE REGISTRATION FEES, ARE THEY GOING INTO THE ENTERPRISE FUND NOW
OR WHAT'S THE PROCESS? >> TOHMAZ: NO, THE VACANT BUILDING PROGRAM MOVED TO DSD BUT MOVED INTO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WHICH IS GENERAL FUND.
SO NO CHANGE IN FUNDING. >> GALVAN: GOT IT. THAT'S GREAT.
I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS, TOO, IS MAKING SURE THAT THIS PROGRAM IS ABLE TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THE BETTER PATHWAY VERSUS KIND OF SEEKING -- NOT THAT I THINK IT'S DONE THIS WAY -- BUT CITATIONS TO GET MONEY BACK INTO THE PROGRAM TO KEEP IT SUSTAINABLE.
I THINK THE ULTIMATE GOAL HERE IS TO P PENALIZE WHAT GETS US TO A BETTER SPOT HERE. I GUESS I WAS GOING TO ASK, TOO, ON THE VACANT LOTS, I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT VACANT BUILDINGS.
DO YOU SEE ANY KIND OF LONG RUNWAY HERE ABOUT GETTING TO VACANT LOTS AS WELL WITHIN THIS AND IF SO, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE AS CAPACITY -- I'M SURE --
VACANT LOTS AS WELL ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE? >> TOHMAZ: THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION TO ANSWER. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION RIGHT NOW. I'M SURE IF WE CAN EXPAND IT TO THAT, THEN DEFINITELY WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE RESOURCES FOR SURE. BUT I -- YEAH, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ANSWER
RIGHT THIS SECOND. >> GALVAN: NO WORRIES. THE GOAL WITH THAT HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE IL AAND OTHER KIND OF WORK WE'RE DOING HERE IS SO IT'S NOT JUST BUILDINGS BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FULL SCOPE HERE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. >> MUNGIA: COUNCILWOMAN MEZA GONZALEZ?
>> GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE THOUSAND -- WHERE IS IT? THE THOUSAND ACTIVE CASES, I GUESS, OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED IN THE
CITY? WHAT DISTRICTS? >> TOHMAZ: I DON'T HAVE
IT WITH ME. >> GONZALEZ: OR CAN YOU PROVIDE ONE?
>> TOHMAZ: YES, WE CAN. >> IF YOU CAN JUST PROVIDE THAT. WE'VE GOT IN DISTRICT EIGHT, DE ZAVALA ROAD RIGHT BY CLARK HIGH SCHOOL AND LOCKHILL SELMA HAS A NUMBER OF VACANT PROPERTIES COMING UP, SO EVERY TIME I SEE A FOR LEASE SIGN, I GET NERVOUS, BECAUSE THEY REALLY STAY THAT WAY FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW, AND IT'S -- SOME ISSUES ARE COMING UP THERE, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHERE THIS IS. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE SLIDING SCALE, I THINK THAT'S JUST BASED ON THE OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEY'RE DOING IT, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MOVE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANY VACANT PROPERTY THAT WE CAN RETURN TO PRODUCTIVE USE, WHETHER IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SMALL BUSINESS, IT'S A POTENTIAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR US, AND SO I THINK LOOKING AT IT IN THAT SENSE IS IMPORTANT TO ME. AND I'M INTERESTED IN THE RECEIVERSHIP.
DALLAS USED THIS TOOL IN WHAT WAY? LIKE WHAT ARE THE LARGER NONPROFITS THAT ARE, I GUESS, VOLUNTEERING OR THINKING THAT RECEIVERSHIP MAKES SENSE FOR THEM? DO YOU -- ARE YOU
FAMILIAR WITH ANY NONPROFITS IN DALLAS? >> I THINK COUNCILWOMAN,
THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. >> GONZALEZ: THEY DON'T. >> THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THE TOOL RECEIVERSHIP, THE CHALLENGE IS FINDING --
>> GONZALEZ: THE TOOL'S THERE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CODE.
>> CORRECT. >> GONZALEZ: OH, OKAY, SO LIKE LITERALLY THE TOOL.
>> THE NONPROFIT OR THE FOR PROFIT THAT WOULD BE THE RECEIVER IS WHERE THE
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ROAD BLOCK IS IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING. >> GONZALEZ: SO THEN THE -- WHERE WAS IT HERE -- ON THE CCR, IT SAYS -- WHERE IS THAT, THE HOUSING BOND FUNDS TO ACQUIRE, IS THAT WHERE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY
BECOME THE RECEIVER THROUGH A LAND -- >> I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO INCENTIVIZE A THIRD PARTY IS THE IDEA IN THE CCR.
WE CANNOT BE THE RECEIVER OF THE PROPERTY. BECAUSE IT'S A LEGAL ACTION THAT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN, THE COURTS WILL PLACE THE PROPERTY INTO RECEIVERSHIP, IT'S A TECHNICALITY THAT HAPPENS, RIGHT.
>> GONZALEZ: NO, I GET IT. >> AS THE PERSON PURSUING THE FACT THAT IT'S A NEGLIGENT PROPERTY, WE CAN'T BE THE RECEIVER OF THE PROPERTY IN THE MIDST OF THOSE LEGAL ACTIONS. IF I'M OVERSIMPLIFYING,
Y'ALL CAN CORRECT ME. >> TOHMAZ: SO JUST TO CLARIFY.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE RECEIVERSHIP IS EXACTLY WHAT JOHN JUST TALKED ABOUT. THE CITY CANNOT BE THE
RECEIVER FOR ANY PROPERTY. >> GONZALEZ: RIGHT.
>> TOHMAZ: NOW, WHEN THE COUNTY PUTS THE PROPERTY ON THE STEPS FOR AUCTION, WE AS THE CITY CAN PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY, SO THAT'S WHERE THE
ACQUISITION COMES IN VERSUS THE RECEIVERSHIP. >> GONZALEZ: GOT IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING THIS FORWARD.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE. I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, MORE -- I THINK YOU SAID LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.
>> MUNGIA: COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO? >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU.
JUST WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO REINFORCE THE POINT THAT DR. KAUR RAISED, AND I WAS THINKING IT, BUT SHE SAID IT, IN TERMS OF I APPRECIATE THE EXAMPLE OF THE WORK OF OHP TRYING TO FIND OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY. I HAVE A STAFF MEMBER WHO HAS -- OWNS A HISTORIC HOME AND REHABBING THE WINDOWS WAS OUT OF REACH WITHOUT A LOAN, RIGHT? SO I THINK THE IMPORTANCE OF GOING BEYOND A HISTORIC STRUCTURE IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS MORE AFFORDABLE IN TERMS OF REHABILITATION, AND THEN IN TERMS OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT WE HAD ENVISIONED, RIGHT, I THINK THERE'S TWO OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT? ONE IN WHICH IT COULD POTENTIALLY GO TO A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST LIKE THE ESPARANZA THAT IS REHABBING HOMES OR WITH MERCED OR MEXICAN-AMERICAN UNITY COUNCIL SO YOU HAVE A TAXABLE PROPERTY.
I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE REVENUE WITH THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY DELINK WANT IN PROPERTY TAXES, TAKE OWNERSHIP AND YOU NOW HAVE THE TACTSABLE VALUE. BUT JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THOSE TWO POINTS ABOUT WHO COULD POTENTIALLY PLAY THE ROLE WHERE THEIR MISSION IS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, NOT NECESSARILY PROFIT.
AND I THINK USING THE HOUSING BOND, ONE, TO FACILITATE AND ACQUIRE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BUT THEN ALSO TO REHAB THE HOMES WITH MERCED
AND/OR MOCK. THANK YOU. >> MUNGIA: ANYONE ELSE
FOR A SECOND ROUND? COUNCILWOMAN KAUR? >> KAUR: AND I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE CLARITY ON THE EXAMPLE THAT I GAVE.
IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE LAND COST OF A VACANT STRUCTURE, A VACANT STRUCTURE PROBABLY HAS VERY LITTLE LOW TAXABLE VALUE, RIGHT? WHAT IS A TAXABLE VALUE FOR A VACANT STRUCTURE? LIKE GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE -- I JUST ASKED MY STAFF, GU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF ONE --
>> YOU'RE ASKING THE APPRAISED VALUE IS IMPACTED BY BEING
VACANT? >> KAUR: YES. >> I THINK THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY IS WHAT'S ASSESSED, NOT NECESSARILY INHABITED OR NOT.
>> KAUR: RIGHT. SO I GUESS I'M JUST SAYING IF THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DILIGENCE THAT WE COULD DO AROUND WHAT THE SALE PRICE WOULD BE LISTED AS IF THERE'S ANY ROOM FOR US TO SAY WITHIN THE RECEIVERSHIP MODEL IF THERE IS A WAY TO KEEP THAT SALE PRICE LOW, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE PURCHASING -- TO YOUR POINT, AROUND 120% AMI, THAT COULD BE -- YOU COULD STILL KEEP A REHABBED PROPERTY WITHIN THAT IF THE VAI KSAT 12 VACANT STRUCTURE AND THE LAND COST WAS SO LOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MEDIAN HOME OF 150, YOU COULD STILL KEEP IT WITH THAT WITHIN THE REHAB COSTS BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SALE PRICE WOULD BE LISTED AS AND HOW AT THE VERY END IT GOES TO MARKET. AND SO IF THERE WAS A WAY WE COULD DO MORE DILIGENCE AROUND LOOKING AT THAT PROCESS TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT WAY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND THEN, TO COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO'S POINT, SHE JUST MENTIONED EVEN THE LIEN, IF AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAD ONE PROPERTY THAT IAN WORKED WITH US TO GET AN ILA ON, AND THAT WAS A VACANT LOT.
IF THERE'S A VACANT STRUCTURE THAT SOMEONE CAN TAKE OVER, IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET LOAN FUNDING, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT, BUT IT ALL COMES BA K TO WHAT THAT MARKET VALUE IS AT THE END OF THE PROCESS. I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO MORE DILIGENCE ON WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AND AT LEAST EVEN TRY TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM REHAB FOLKS LIKE COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO MENTIONED AND EVEN JUST THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, SEE IF THERE WOULD BE ANY
APPETITE. THANKS, CHAIR. >> MUNGIA: ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID TODAY.
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I ALSO WOULD LIKE MAYBE A STRATEGY APPROACH TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL ALSO, BECAUSE THAT CAME UP IN MY TOWN HALL WHEN I HAD ONE IN THE MARBACH COMMUNITY WAS THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, A RESTAURANT LEAVES AND THE BUILDING JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN FALLS OFF, RIGHT, AND THE GRASS IS GROWN, THE WINDOWS ARE BOARDED, THERE'S GRAFFITI, PEOPLE BREAK IN AND CAMP OUT THERE. THERE'S AN OLD TACO CABANA RIGHT NEAR OUR AREA NEAR MILITARY AND 90 THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR YEARS NOW. RIGHT OFF THE HIGHWAY, LOOKS TOTALLY BLIGHTED, DOESN'T HELP THE CAUSE. I THINK THERE'S WAYS TO HELP THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECT AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN INFILL ONE BY ONE TYPE OF SITUATION, WHICH WE STILL NEED TO GET A BETTER GRASP ON AT THE CITY.AND THEN ALSO THE COMMERCIAL. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO BROUGHT THIS UP, TOO, CAN WE INCREASE FEES FOR SPECIFICALLY COMMERCIAL VACANT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE TO BE ABATED OVER TIME? THIS DATA PIECE THAT WE'RE A ALL TALKING ABOUT, THE FOLKS THAT WE MET WITH COULD BE A REALLY GOOD TOOL, RIGHT, BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT WE LOSE TRACK OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE UNDER ANNUAL NOTICE.
SO A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES REALLY COULD BE HIT FOUR TIMES A YEAR, RIGHT, IF WE KNEW TO CHECK THAT EVERY SO OFTEN.
AND GET MORE FEES FROM THAT, BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE LETTING THEIR PROPERTY SIT, NOT PUTTING ANY MONEY INTO LANDSCAPING OR ANYTHING, WHILE THE REST OF US ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT, SO I WELCOME YOU COMING BACK WITH A STRATEGY FOR BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY
HELPFUL. >> TOHMAZ: YEAH, WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO ALL THAT. NOW, TODAY, OUR FEE FOR REGISTRATION FOR COMMERCIAL IS HIGHER THAN RESIDENTIAL, IT'S 900, VERSUS 400 FOR RESIDENTIAL. KEEP IN MIND THAT ANY VIOLATION THEY HAVE, REGARDLESS IF IT'S VACANT STRUCTURE OR NOT, WE STILL HAVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM THAT CAN ADDRESS THAT THAT PROVIDE NOTICES AND THEN IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, THEN THEY'RE CITED AND WE CAN ABATE IT AND BUTT LIENS PUT LIENS ON IT. WE CAN VM OF THOSE TOOLS SO WE HAVE SOME OF
THOSE TOOLS BUT WE CAN DIG INTO IT MORE. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, SIR. BEST OF LUCK, AMIN. ALL RIGHTY.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3, COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST RELATED TO UPDATING THE NAMING OF CITY FACILITIES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M JAY MI NIETO, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK. I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT ON UPDATING THE PROCESS FOR NAMING OF CITY FACILITIES. THE CCR WAS SUBMITTED BY FORMER COUNCILMEMBER ADRIANA ROCHA GARCIA ON FEBRUARY 13, 2025.
THE CCR REQUEST INCREASING NOTIFICATION, PUBLIC INPUT, MEETINGS, COMMITTEE COMPOSITION, RESTRICTIONS ON HONORING INDIVIDUALS AND CONSIDERATION OF OTHER NAMES. ON APRIL 16, 2025, THE CCR WAS PRESENTED TO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE AND ASSIGNED TO THE PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOR V FURTHER REVIEW.
I'M GOING TO START BY WALKING THROUGH THE CURRENT NAMING PROCESS ACCORDING TO THE CITY CODE. A NAMING REQUEST CAN COME FROM CITY STAFF, COUNCILMEMBER OR COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE. ONCE THAT REQUEST IS SUBMITTED, THE CITY CLERK WILL NOTIFY THE COMMITTEE BY E-MAIL. FROM THERE, A COMMITTEE IS FORMED TO REVIEW THE REQUEST. THE COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF THREE MEMBERS. THE DEPARTMENT HEAD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FACILITY, THE COUNCILMEMBER REPRESENTING THE DISTRICT WHERE THE FACILITY IS LOCATED AND A COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE.
UNDER THE PROPOSED UPDATES THE CITY CLERK -- THE CITY STAFF OR COUNCILMEMBER OR COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE. HOWEVER, THE PROCESS FOR FORMING THE REVIEW COMMITTEE WOULD CHANGE. THE CITY CLERK WOULD NOW BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FORMING AN ODD-NUMBERED COMMITTEE. THIS COMMITTEE WOULD INCLUDE A MEMBER OF THE SAN ANTONIO PARKS FOUNDATION, ANOTHER CHANGE IS THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS CANNOT BE RELATED TO THE REQUESTING COUNCILMEMBER. SHOULD THE NAMING REQUEST ORIGINATE FROM A COUNCILMEMBER. UNDER THE EXISTING GUIDELINES, THE DEPARTMENT IS REQUIRED TO SCHEDULE ONE MEETING -- ONE PUBLIC HEARING WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIVING THE REQUEST.
THAT HEARING MUST TAKE PLACE NO LATER THAN 90 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF RECEIPT. THIS HEARING PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO OFFER COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED NAME. FOR PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, NOTICES ARE MAILED TO ALL RESIDENTS WHO LIVE WITHIN A 200 FEET RADIUS OF THE FACILITY. IN ADDITION TO MAILING NOTICES, THE CITY ALSO ISSUES CITYWIDE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS, BULLETINS AND PRESS RELEASES TO ENSURE BROAD AWARENESS. ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARING
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AND NOTIFICATION STEPS ARE COMPLETE, THE COMMITTEE REVIEWS A PROPOSAL AND ULTIMATELY APPROVES OR REJECTED A SUBMITTED NAME.NOW I'LL WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS -- THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOTIFICATION PROCESS. THE PROPOSAL WOULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM ONE TO TWO WHEN THE MAILOUT NOTICE RESPONSES SHOW 50% OR MORE OPPOSITION TO THE REQUESTED NAME CHANGE.
THE CURRENT PROCESS DOES NOT INDICATE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING NEEDS TO BE HELD NEAR THE FACILITY. INCREASED MAILING NOTICES TO ALL RESIDENTS FROM 200-FOOT RADIUS TO 500-FOOT RADIUS OF THE FACILITY. ADDITIONALLY, REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND COMEURNTY GROUPS WITHIN 2 MILES OF THE FACILITY WOULD BE NOTIFIED. ANOTHER CHANGE ALLOWS THE COMMUNITY TO SUGGEST ALTERNATIVE NAMES BEYOND THE ONE SUBMITTED. STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS -- OR STAFF RECOMMENDS EXPAND PUBLIC NOTIFICATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE FACILITY FROM 200 FEET, REQUIRE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS RATHER THAN ONE IF OPPOSITION TO NAME CHANGE IS GREATER THAN 50%. THE PUBLIC MEETING TO BE HELD AT THE NEAREST POSSIBLE LOCATION ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC FROM THE FACILITY IN QUESTION, NAMING COMMITTEE COMPOSED OF ODD NUMBER OF REPRESENTATIVES, RECOMMEND REV LATIN LENT CITY BOARD, RECOMMEND NO COMMITTEE MEMBER BE [INDISCERNIBLE] REQUEST OR PROPOSED COUNCILMEMBER. STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING FOR THE COMMITTEE TO SUGGEST OTHER NAMES BESIDES THE ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME.
STAFF REQUESTS THAT THE COMMITTEE'S INPUT ON THE PROPOSED CCR REQUEST AND
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, JAIME, FOR THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE IT. I DO RECALL THIS CCR ACTUALLY AND THE ONE WHO HELPED FACILITATE THE PROPOSAL OF THIS, AND STEMS FROM -- AND, AGAIN, THIS IS FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES, THIS IS NOT DO ANYTHING TO STREET RENAMING. THIS IS -- IT'S JUST A COINCIDENCE THAT IT'S AT THIS TIME IN OUR PUBLIC, BUT THERE WAS A CONTROVERSIAL PARK RENAMING PROCESS IN ANOTHER DISTRICT, AND A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS VOICED THEIR CONCERN. AND SO WHAT THIS IS JUST TRYING TO DO IS INCREASE THE CITY'S THRESHOLD OR PARTICIPATION FOR MINIMUM STANDARDS. SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN THREE MEETINGS, TWO MEETINGS, YOU CAN DO THAT AS A COUNCIL OFFICE. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN MEETING. THIS IS JUST STATING THAT IF A COUNCILMEMBER IS VERY HANDS OFF, THIS IS THE MINIMUM PROCESS. SO WHEN YOU GET A PARK CHANGE OR FACILITY NAME, YOU KNOW, THAT NOTIFICATION WASN'T GOING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE AREA AS AN FY I.
AS WE KNOW, PEOPLE WANTED TO SUBMIT A DIFFERENT NAME, PERHAPS.
AND THAT'S NOT BEING RECOGNIZED, YOU HAVE TO START THAT PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN. 200 FEET FROM A FACILITY IS QUITE A SHORT DISTANCE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHERE THAT COULD BE, AND SO I THINK THE OTHER THING, TOO, WHICH -- I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL'S GUILTY OF, BUT SOME PEOPLE IN THE PAST HAVE NAMED FACILITIES AFTER THEIR OWN RELATIVES, AND THERE ARE SOME SENIOR CENTERS THAT BEAR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S FAMILY NAMES, WHICH IS ONE THING, RIGHT.
THIS IS STATING THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO COULDN'T NAME A FACILITY AFTER HER FATHER, BUT IF HER FATHER WAS VERY ACTIVE AND SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO NAME IT AFTER HER FATHER, THEY COULD STILL DO THAT, SO THAT'S A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY. AND SO IT'S JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING THE OPPORTUNITY A LITTLE BIT.
SO I THINK IT'S NONCONTROVERSIAL, I THINK IT'S PRETTY SAFE OPTIONS TO ADD INTO THE ORDINANCE, BUT I CERTAINLY WELCOME ANY FEEDBACK AND THOUGHTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT THIS.
COUNCILWOMAN KAUR? >> KAUR: THANKS, CHAIR. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. IF SOMEONE PRESENTS ANOTHER OPTION, WHAT
HAPPENS? >> SO I'M GOING TO ANSWER THAT, DEBBIE RACCA-SITTRE, CITY CLERK FOR THE RECORD. THE CURRENT PROCESS IS TO GO THROUGH ONLY APPROVING THE NAME THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND IT WOULD NEED A NEW PROCESS OF A NEW NOTICE IF SOMEONE ELSE RECOMMENDS A DIFFERENT NAME. THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, SO THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE NOTICE. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CCR REQUESTED. THE CCR REQUESTED THAT IF DURING THE COURSE OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, A DIFFERENT NAME CAME UP, THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD JUST SELECT A DIFFERENT NAME AND RECOMMEND THAT TO COUNCIL.
SO IT REALLY IS UP TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT.
>> KAUR: LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THREE NAMES CAME UP, WOULD WE THEN DO THE
SAME PROCESS FOR THREE NAMES? >> RACCA-SITTRE: THAT WOULD BE THE CITY CLERK'S RECOMMENDATION SO THERE WOULD BE THREE NOTICE FOR
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THOSE THREE NAMES. >> MUNGIA: RIGHT NOW THE ONE NAME IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE. SO IT'S EITHER A YES OR NO.
IF 50 PEOPLE CAME AND SAID THERE'S THIS OTHER GUY OR WOMAN THAT WE KNOW IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT SHOULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM THIS, YOU'D HAVE TO RESTART THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. SO THERE COULD BE A WAY WHERE YOU COULD SAY IF A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FOLKS SAY THIS IS THE PERSON THAT WE WANT OR THIS IS WHAT WE ANT WE WANT TO NAME IT AFTER -- NOT NECESSARILY A PERSON, BUT ROSE BUD OR TEXAS LAUREL, BUT THE CURRENT PROCESS WOULD BE TO START EVERYTHING AFTER A NEW NAME WAS SUBMITTED.
>> KAUR: I JUST THINK DOWN THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY, YOU COULD GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE. IF ONE PERSON RECOMMENDS ONE NAME AND ANOTHER PESH RECOMMENDS ANOTHER, YOU MIGHT BE IN THIS PROCESS FOR A VERY LONG TIME FOR ONE FACILITY, SO I DO THINK THERE MIGHT NEED TO BE LIKE A THRESHOLD OF -- AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT THRESHOLD IS, BUT LIKE WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A THRESHOLD OF LET'S SAY -- AND DO THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT, LIKE A SURVEY FORM OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS, YES, I SUPPORT, NO, I DON'T?
>> SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE DEPARTMENTS, WHEN THEY PROVIDE THE NOTICE, RIGHT, PEOPLE COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY
PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK THERE. >> KAUR: BUT IT'S NOT LIKE ZONING WHERE YOU, LIKE, SUBMIT THE -- NO? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S THAT BIG OF A PROCESS, LIKE THAT PROCESS WHERE YOU COULD SAY LIKE ALONG WITH THE NOTIFICATION, THERE'S A CARD THAT SAYS YES, IN FAVOR.
>> MUNGIA: IF YOU GO TO SLIDE 4, THAT'S PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION, THAT IF A MAILOUT NOTICE RESPONSE INDICATE 50% OR MORE GREATER, THAT WOULD
AUTOMATICALLY -- >> KAUR: SO WE'RE ADDING THAT.
>> MUNGIA: THAT'S A PROPOSAL. >> KAUR: SO WE ARE ADDING THAT. IF THERE IS LIKE AN OTHER CATEGORY THAT WE CALCULATE, OKAY, LIKE YOU HAVE ANOTHER NAME, AND SO YOU'RE ABLE TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING AND MAYBE IF IT'S MORE THAN, LIKE, 25% OF THE RESPONDENTS SAY WE WANT IT TO BE THIS NAME, THEN IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS.
VERSUS JUST A SINGLE PERSON SUGGESTING A DIFFERENT NAME.
AND I'M ONLY SAYING THAT BECAUSE USUALLY -- I'VE ONLY DONE THIS FOR ONE FACILITY IN DISTRICT ONE, AND IT CAME TO ME FROM SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE AND IT WASN'T, LIKE, -- YOU KNOW, USUALLY IT'S THE -- I CAN'T SPEAK FOR FUTURE COUNCILS, BUT AT LEAST FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, IT USUALLY COMES FROM COMMUNITY. SO ANYWAYS, MAYBE JUST SAYING, LIKE, IF THERE'S MORE THAN 25% OF THE PEOPLE AROUND THAT AREA THAT WANT A DIFFERENT NAME, THEN IT CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS,
TOO. THANKS, CHAIR. >> MUNGIA: COUNCILWOMAN
CASTILLO? >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, CHAIR, THANK YOU, JAIME, FOR THE PRESENTATION. SIMILAR TO DR. KAUR'S NAME CHANGES THAT WE'VE HAD FOR FACILITIES WERE INITIATED BY COMMUNITY, AAND JUST LIKE LARGE COALITIONS OF COMMUNITY TO SAY THIS INDIVIDUAL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A PETITION THAT RESULTED IN THE NATATORIUM, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEN ON OUR END WE TYPICALLY VENT AND RESEARCH TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND ANYTHING IN OLD ARCHIVES TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT MAY SURFACE AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING. MY QUESTION IS WOULD THIS APPLY ONLY TO FACILITIES OR WOULD IT ALSO APPLY TO PAVILIONS AND/OR LIBRARY
ROOMS? >> IT WOULD APPLY TO CITY FACILITIES INCLUDING THE ROOMS, INCLUDING THE PAVILIONS, SO WE SEE THIS MOSTLY HAPPENING IN PARKS, BUT THE REASON WE DID NOT RECOMMEND "PARKS" TO BE ON THE BOARD BECAUSE IT DOES HAPPEN IN SENIOR CENTERS AND OTHER FACILITIES, SO IT WOULD BE THE RELEVANT BOARD TO THAT -- THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE RELEVANT
BOARD RATHER THAN JUST PARKS ALWAYS. >> CASTILLO: OKAY.
AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY ALLOWED TO SUGGEST OTHER NAMES BESIDES THE ONES SUBMITTED, WOULD THAT BE IF IT REACHES THE INDICATION OF 50% OR MORE IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUESTED NAME CHANGE AND/OR HOW WOULD THAT COMPONENT BE OPENED UP? WOULD IT BE AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, SAYING WE'RE OPEN TO OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS OR LIKE WHAT WOULD TRIGGER THE SUGGESTION FOR OTHER NAMES?
>> RACCA-SITTRE: WE'D NEED TO LOOK BACK AT THE CCR, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CCR. STAFF DID NOT RECOMMEND OPENING THAT BACK UP WITHOUT A NEW PROCESS, SO WE COULD BE OPEN TO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL OR THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS, IF IT'S A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, LIKE COUNCILWOMAN KAUR SUGGESTS.
>> CASTILLO: OKAY. AND THEN CAN YOU REMIND ME OF DR. KAUR'S
SUGGESTION ON THAT? >> I CAN TRY AND SUMMARIZE IT.
25% COALITION AROUND A CERTAIN NAME. SO LIKE A ONE-OFF WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD UNLESS 25% OF THE FEEDBACK INDICATED A DIFFERENT NAME, SO THEN THE DIFFERENT NAME WOULD BE PRESENTED, IF I'M ACT KRATLY DESCRIBING WHAT YOU SAID.
>> KAUR: YEAH. >> SO YOU MAIL OUT ALL THE CARDS AND THEN THERE'S AN "OTHER" SLOT, I'M MAKING THIS UP, YOU KNOW, AND IF 25% OF THOSE CARDS COME BACK WITH ANOTHER NAME, THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER CANDIDATE
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FOR THE NAMING. >> CASTILLO: WOULD IT BE LIKE THERE HAS TO BE LIKE X AMOUNT OF CARDS FOR A SPECIFIC NAME? WHAT IF IT'S LIKE THE DURANGO, RIGHT, IT WAS LIKE MANY WILD RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> I'M AWARE OF THOSE. >> CASTILLO: HOW WOULD WE IDENTIFY, OKAY, WE OPEN IT UP, RIGHT, WE'RE NOW ALLOWING FOR AN ADDITIONAL NAME TO BE UB IS MITTED AND THERE'S LIKE 20 NAMES SUBMITTED. IS IT BASED OFF OF WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE 20S THAT GETS A SECOND MEETING?
>> I'M JUST JUST TRYING TO -- THE CCR MENTIONS THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY.
WE'RE TRYING TO SOLICIT SOME FEEDBACK, SO OPEN TO YOUR SUGGESTIONS HERE.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. >> CASTILLO: I'M -- I'M IN A POSITION IN WHICH ONCE IT'S GOTTEN TO A COMMUNITY MEETING AND A LETTER'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK, THERE'S BEEN DUE DILIGENCE IN TERMS OF LIKE THE RECOMMENDED NAME. I DO BELIEVE IF WE GET SURVEYS BACK WITH 50% THAT INDICATE THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT NAME CHANGE, I THINK THE CONVERSATION DIES. I THINK BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE OPENING UP A CAN OF WORMS OF ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'VE SEEN WITH -- NOT FACILITY NAME CHANGES BUT YOU HAVE COALITIONS -- COMPETING COALITIONS COMPETING FOR THE NAME OF A FACILITY, SO I THINK IT'S OPENING UP A CAN OF WORMS BY ALLOWING FOR OTHER NAMES TO BE SUGGESTED OTHER THAN THE ONE SUBMITTED. THOSE ARE ARE MY COMMENTS.
>> YEAH, YEAH, IF I CAN SUMMARIZE. I THINK I HEAR YOU SAYING ARE THAT WE COULD SEND OUT THE FEEDBACK FORM, SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT, PERHAPS LEAVE THE OTHER OFF. AND IF WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE 50% SUPPORT, THE SPONSORING COUNCILMEMBER COULD HEAR THAT FEEDBACK AND KNOW THAT MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE A NEW PROCESS OR IF THEY WANT TO PRESS ON, THEY KNOW THERE'S SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION, BUT TO DELETE THE OTHERS IS WHAT I HEAR YOU'RE SAYING.
>> CASTILLO: YEAH. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
>> MUNGIA: COUNCILWOMAN GALVAN? >> GALVAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, JAIME, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
YEAH, I MEAN, GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK ON THE POINT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, I GUESS MY ONLY THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT IF THERE'S -- IF THE BOARD WANTS TO RECOMMEND THAT THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN. IS THAT ALLOWABLE FOR ANY NEW NAMES DURING THE PROCESS? LIKE THE COMMUNITY MEETING, YOU KNOW WHAT, I HEAR DIFFERENT NAMES, I DON'T HEAR CONSENSUS ON THIS ONE, I'M HEARING OTHER GROUPS, CAN WE SEND IT BACK OUT FOR A SECOND NOTICE ON THAT ONE OR DO WE NEED SOMEONE EXTERNAL TO DO THAT?
>> YES, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. >> GALVAN: SORRY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, IF THE PANEL THAT'S IN THE ROOM, I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE WITH THE COUNCILWOMAN, SO IF THE PANEL IN THE ROOM HEARS SIGNIFICANT FEEDBACK IN THE ROOM AND THEY DECIDE TO NOT MOVE FORWARD.
>> GALVAN: RIGHT. THEY SAY NO TO THIS ONE. >> NO TO THIS ONE, WE THINK YOU SHOULD START OVER. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING? >> GALVAN: YES, VERSUS THE COUNCILMEMBER HAVING TO DO IT AGAIN OR THE COMMUNITY MEMBER HAVING TO DO IT AGAIN.
>> NO, I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN CHANGE MIDSTREAM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEETING TO THE NEW NAME.
THAT'S NOT THE PROCESS HOW IT IS NOW AND THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING DESCRIBED. YOU WOULD HAVE TO START OVER.
I'M UNDERSTANDING. THEN THAT'S WHAT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF.
YEAH, I RECALL SOME OF THE THINGS ON THIS ONE. I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL, BUT I WAS AT THE MEETINGS. THERE WERE A LOT. BUT I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THEIR MINDS ON THESE THINGS AND TAKE BETTER FEEDBACK ON IT, ULTIMATELY IT COMES BACK TO WHAT THE COUNCILMEMBER IS LOOKING FORWARD TO DO THERE, BUT ULTIMATELY HOPEFULLY THIS ENCOURAGES FOLKS TO TAKE COMMUNITY INPORT INTO CONSIDERATION THERE. WE HAD A GREAT RENAMING OF OUR COUNCIL OFFICE COMMUNITY. THAT WENT REALLY WELL.
FOLKS LOOKING TO SHOWCASE SOMEBODY OR TO HIGHLIGHT SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY. THERE WAS A RESOUNDING SUPPORT ON THE DISTRICT SIX OFFICE ON THAT. ALWAYS ENCOURAGE LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY ON THESE THINGS. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> MUNGIA: COUNCILWOMAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, MEZA GONZALEZ?
>> GONZALEZ: THE PROPOSED CHANGE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH JUST, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE -- ON THE CURRENT ONE, IT'S COMMITTEE APPROVES OR REJECTED A SUBMITTED NAME. SO IF WE MOVE THAT TO THE PROPOSED ONE AS KIND OF JUST CLOSING THE LOOP ON THAT NAME, STILL ADDING THE EXTRA STEPS WITH THE ONE TO TWO HEARINGS, 50% BEFORE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO, LIKE, CLOSE ANYWHERE, OR MAYBE I'M...
>> GALVAN: MAYBE JUST A -- >> GONZALEZ: IT STAYS
OPEN, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. >> MUNGIA: I THINK THE INTENT IS TO CLOSE IT, BUT I HEAR YOU ON THAT. THAT'S THE ONE PIECE THAT IS HIGHLY CONTENTIOUS AND EMOTIONAL, AND THAT WAS THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THE DISTRICT SIX RENAMING WAS PEOPLE SAID, WELL, IF 15 OF US ARE COMING HERE
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AND WE'RE ALL SUGGESTING CALLING IT VETERAN'S PARK AND NO ONE'S LISTENING TO US BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CONSIDER THAT, SO THERE'S A WAY TO ADD -- YOU KNOW, ADD NAMES OR SUGGESTIONS BUT CLOSE THE LOOP ON WHAT'S BEING SUBMITTEDAND THEN RESTARTING THE PROCESS. >>
>> GONZALEZ: THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >> MUNGIA: I THINK IT'S JUST GREATER NOTIFICATION AND ACCESS TO MEETINGS IS WHAT IS THE MAIN GOAL OF THAT, WHICH PEOPLE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, NOT ALLOWING COUNCILMEMBERS TO NAME IT AFTER THEIR RELATIVES.
SORRY, GUYS, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY FAIR THING TO DO.
BUT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILWOMAN KAUR? >> KAUR: I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, I WANT TO CHANGE MY SUPPORT TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO SAID, TO JUST MAKE IT VERY CLEAR ON THE RECORD.
OKAY. BECAUSE I NODDED MY HEAD, BUT I'M LIKE, THAT
DOESN'T GO ON THE RECORD, SO... >> MUNGIA: WELL, AND MAYBE JOHN CAN SUMMARIZE WHAT COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO
SAID. >> MUNGIA: NO, WE'RE GOOD.
WE CAN PLAY BACK THE TAPE. THAT'S SOME GOOD FEEDBACK, SO MAYBE WE CAN SCHEDULE A FOLLOW-UP MEETING WITH SOME OF THE FEEDBACK AND MAKE SURE THE COMMITTEE'S GOOD WITH IT TO PASS IT ALONG.
WHAT DID YOU HEAR TODAY, DEBBIE? >> RACCA-SITTRE: SO WE HEARD -- LET ME PULL MY SLIDES BACK OUT. WE HEARD THAT ESSENTIALLY WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND PUBLIC NOTIFICATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET FROM THE 200 FEET. IF THERE IS MORE THAN 50% OPPOSITION TO THE NAME CHANGE ONCE WE GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM THOSE, WE DON'T EVEN NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING, WE CAN JUST STOP THE PROCESS THEN. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. IF WE CONTINUE THE PROCESS, THERE'S A MEETING OF THE NAMING COMMITTEE THAT'S AN ODD NUMBER OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE RELEVANT CITY BOARD IS REPRESENTED ON THAT PANEL. AND THAT IF DURING THE COURSE OF THE MEETING THERE IS NOT SUPPORT FOR THE CHANGE, THE PANEL SHOULD VOTE DOWN THEORETICALLY -- THEY SHOULD TAKE CONSIDERATION OF THE FEEDBACK, BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER NAME SUGGESTED, THAT NAME WOULD THEN START OVER IN A NEW PROCESS OF NOTIFICATION AND GO BACK THROUGH.
BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MORE THAN 25% -- >>
>> RACCA-SITTRE: WELL, I THINK IT U WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT.
>> IT MIGHT BE GOOD IN THE PUBLIC MEETING, IF THERE'S SIGNIFICANT FEEDBACK, YOU MIGHT LEAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY UP TO THE BOARD, RIGHT, VERSUS HAVING TO COUNT THE 25% IN THE ROOM, I THINK THAT COULD BE DIFFICULT.
>> RECOMMENDATION TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS. THE BOARD COULD TAKE ACTION ON, INSTEAD OF THIS PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND GOING BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH A DIFFERENT NAME. IT COULD BE DIFFERENT.
THE COMMUNITY COULD REACT DIFFERENTLY WITH A DIFFERENT NAME.
>> MUNGIA: AWESOME. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4. KARMDZ GOOD MORNING, CHAIRKS AND COUNCILMEMBER, I'M MARK CARMONA, CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER AND HOMELESS SERVICES AND STRATEGY DEPARTMENT. THE CHAIR REQUESTED WE GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR COMMUNITY'S RESPONSE SYSTEM WHICH MADE UP TO COMPLIMENTARY SERVICES TO ASSIST PEOPLE IN REGAINING STABLE HOUSING. I'LL OVERVIEW THE TYPES OF PROGRAMS AND INTERVENTIONS THAT MAKE UP THE SYSTEM AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE MAJOR PARTNER AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES WHICH WE CATEGORIZE AROUND WHAT I PRESENTED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO COUNCIL AND FINALLY WE'LL LOOK AT SOME SYSTEM--WIDE OUTCOMES OF THOSE PROGRAMS TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE COORDINATE WITHIN THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.
THIS SLIDE SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR FROM OUR SHELTER AND HOUSING FRAMEWORK.
THE SYSTEM'S MADE UP OF THREE FOCUS AREAS, PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS, GUIDING PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS AND KEEP L PEOPLE ING PEOPLE IN HOUSING.
THIS ALIGNS WITH OUR INITIATIVES. WE KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE MAY ACCESS MULTIPLE PROGRAMS, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE WHO'S LOST THEIR HOUSING MAY BE ENGAGED THROUGH STREET OUTREACH, THEN GO TO A DAY CENTER,
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THEN AN EMERGENCY SHELTER BEFORE BEING HOUSED THROUGH A RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM. BECAUSE OF THAT FLUID AND INTERCONNECTED NATURE OF THE SYSTEM, IT MAKES CROSS-PARTNER COORDINATION ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT. WITHIN THE PREVENTION FOCUS AREA THAT LAST YEAR HELPED OVER 5,000 HOUSEHOLDS, WE HAVE 13 MAJOR PARTNER AGENCIES, INCLUDING OUR COLLEAGUES AT NHSD. YOU CAN SEE THE NINE AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ASSISTANCE, INCLUDING THE FIVE FUNDED BY THE CITY, TWO AGENCIES CLOSE TO HOME AND HA HAVEN FOR HOPE PROVIDE DIVERSION AND RAPID EXIT ASSISTANCE WHICH SUPPORTS THINGS LIKE FIRST MONTHS RENT. AND THEN FINALLY THE TWO PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES SUPPORT OVER 11,000 HOUSEHOLDS WITH VOUCHER THAT'S PROVIDE ONGOING FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED. .WITHIN OUR ENGAGEMENT ON THE STREET, WE HAVE EIGHT AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE A FRONT DOOR TO THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE DIRECT SERVICES PROVIDED BY OUR DEPARTMENT. SEVEN AGENCIES PROVIDE STREET OUTREACH, INCLUDING HHSD AND THREE OTHERS THAT WE FUND.
HHSD IS THE LEAD COORDINATOR OF ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENTS WHICH WE DO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES.
WE DO COORDINATE STREET OUTREACH SERVICES FROM NONPROFITS AROUND OUR ABATEMENT ENGAGEMENT WORK, AND THOSE ARE USUALLY LIKE HAVEN FOR HOPE AND SAMMINISTRIES. FINALLY, DAY CENTERS, CAT CATHOLIC WORKER HOUSE SERVES OLDER PEOPLE AND THE COUNTY DOES SOME OF THIS WORK ALSO.
EMERGENCY SHELTER PROVIDES A CRITICAL C COMPONENT OF THE RESPONSE SYSTEM. 13 AGENCIES CONTRIBUTE TO THE ANNUAL HOUSING INVENTORY COUNT CONDUCTED BY CLOSE TO HOME LAST WEEK.
THIS IS AN INVENTORY OF ALL SHELTER BEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY ON A GIVEN NIGHT. YOU CAN SEE THAT FIVE OF THOSE SHELTER SERVICES ARE FUNDED BY THE CITY. IN THE FINAL FOCUS AREA OF THE FRAMEWORK KEEPING PEOPLE HOUSED, THERE ARE 12 AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE RAPID REHOUSING, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING OR VOUCHER SUPPORT TO PEOPLE EXITING HOMELESSNESS.
THE CITY FUNDS FOUR AGENCIES THROUGH FEDERAL GRANTS, THAT'S HOTWA, ESG AND HOME ARP FOR THIS KIND OF SERVICE WHICH PROVIDES IMPORTANT SUPPORT TO THOSE WHO NEED IT. THE TWO HOUSING AUTHORITIES PARTNER WITH AGENCIES TO ADMINISTER VOUCHER THAT'S ARE DESIGNATED TO THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.
LASTLY, THERE ARE SEVEN AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING INCLUDING THREE AGENCIES FUNDED BY THE CITY'S HOPPA GRANT.
I WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE OUTCOMES OF THESE PROGRAMS, AND THESE ARE NUMBERS FROM THE FY '25 HMIS SYSTEM FOR EACH OF THE INTERVENTION AREAS ALONG WITH THE SOURCE OF THE DATA.
SO IN TERMS OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL ASSISTANCE, 85% OF THE APPLICANTS DID NOT ENTER HOMELESSNESS. THERE WAS A DHS STUDY FROM 2022 TO 2024 THAT ANALYZED BOTH NHS D & H MIS DATA. 15% OF THOSE HOUSES SEEKING RENTAL ASSISTANCE WILL STILL END UP EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS IS WHAT THE DATA ANALYSIS SHOWED.
ON THE DIVERSION AND RAPID EXIT, YOU CAN SEE THAT 54% ASSISTED WITH FIRST MONTHS RENT AND 46% ASSISTED WITH OTHER MOVE-IN COSTS.
CLOSE TO HOME, THIS CAME FROM THE CLOSE TO HOME INTERNAL DATA FROM THE DIVERSION PROGRAM AND THE HAVEN FOR HOPE SHALLOW SUBSIDY PROGRAM THAT THEY PROVIDE. THE HOUSING VOUCHERS ASSISTED 11,000 HOUSEHOLDS WITH STABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. STREET OUTREACH, THERE WAS 2,805 UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS SHELTERED OR HOUSED THAT CAME FROM THE HMIS DATA AS WELL. AND THEN WE PROVIDED 1,440 SITE ABATEMENTS IN FY '25. I'M SORRY, THE DAY CENTER ALSO PROVIDED OVER 54,000 HOT MEALS AT CORAZON IN FY '25 AS WELL. FROM THE EMERGENCY SHELTER SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT JUST OVER 5200 PEOPLE THAT WERE IN SHELTER IN FY '25, 2312 EXITED TWO A HIGHER LEVEL OF HOUSING SITUATION.
THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE EITHER TRANSITIONAL HOUSING OR RAPID REHOUSING, WHICH IS ABOUT 44% OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN SHELTER.
IN INTERIM HOUSING, YOU SAW THAT 71% OF PEOPLE EXITED TO POSITIVE HOUSING DESTINATIONS. MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THAT'S GOING TO BE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, BUT IN SOME CASES, THAT COULD BE MEDICAL OR ASSISTED LIVING. WITH HOUSING VOUCHERS BEING UTILIZED, WE SEE THAT 94% OF PEOPLE STAYED HOUSED, AND IN PERMANENT
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SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, THE DATA'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT 96% OF PEOPLE STAY HOUSED AS WELL. ON A PARTNER COORDINATION SIDE, WE HOST THE HOMELESS HUDDLE, WHICH ARE BIWEEKLY CALLS WITH CITY-FUNDED AGENCY CEOS, I ALWAYS CONSIDER THIS TO BE LIKE A PROBLEM SOLVING GROUP, AGILE DECISION MAKING GROUP THAT MEETS EVERY TWO WEEKS. WE HAVE A MEETING THIS FRIDAY. AND OUR FOCUS IN THE NEAR FUTURE IS GOING TO BE AROUND LOOKING AT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SHELTER AND HOUSING FRAMEWORK, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WE'VE DEALT WITH INCLEMENT WEATHER AND HOW TO INCREASE AND IMPROVE IN THOSE AREAS. THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. I THINK THIS STARTED JUST AFTER COVID, AND I WILL TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE WORKING AT HAVEN FOR HOPE AND THE LEVEL OF COORDINATION AND WORK THAT WAS DOING GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY IT'S BEEN A HUGE, HUGE DIFFERENCE AND I THINK HUDDLES LIKE THIS MAKE A BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE. FUNDER COORDINATION, THERE'S A MONTHLY MEETING OF MAJOR FUNDING AGENCIES FOR LONGER TERM PLANNING AND SHORT-TERM PROBLEM SOLVING THAT'S HOSTED BY CLOSE TO HOME. THE CLOSE TO HOME GOVERNANCE SYSTEM IS A SET OF COMMITTEES CHARGED WITH DEVELOPING PROCEDURES FOR CERTAIN SYSTEM FUNCTIONS AND AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS STREET SOME .AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO HOW THE SYSTEM BEST SERVES RESIDENTS GOING FORWARD, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE SEVERAL ONGOING INITIATIVES AND PLANS. OUR DEPARTMENT WILL BE EITHER LEADING OR HEAVILY INVOLVED IN EACH OF THESE TO ENSURE CROSS-SECTION COORDINATION.
THE HOUSING, IT'LL LEAD THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE SUCCESS IN REDUCING HOMELESSNESS, THIS IS WHAT I REFERENCED. THE GREATER CHAMBER HOMELESSNES TASK FORCE, THERE'S A MEETING THIS WEEK WE'RE A PART OF EN ENGAGING FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND HOW THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP. AND AGAIN, I'LL JUST REMIND F FOLKS THE OUTCOMES THEY ARE L LOOKING TO ACHIEVE ALIGN WELL WITH THE SHELTER. THERE'S THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, HOW THE CITY ADDRESSES FUNDS RELATE TO HOMELESSNESS. THE BOND DEVELOPMENT ONGOING CONVERSATIONS AROUND USE OF CIT BOND DOLLARS, TO SUPPORT NOT JUST HOUSING BUT ELEMENTS OF TH HOMELESS SYSTEM AS WELL. THE CLOSE TO HOME COMMUNITY FIV YEAR PLAN COORDINATING WITH ALL OF THE ALLIANCE AGENCIES, AND THEN THE -- ANY OF THE ELEMENTS IN THE SUC SPECIAL HOUSING SUPP TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAKES SENSE IN THE WORK WE'RE DOING WITH HOMELESSNESS.
THANK YOU AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU.
MARC, THIS IS SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK WE'LL BE DOING THIS YEAR AND THE UPCOMING YEARS, AND IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS, SO THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE. >> GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. I AGREE.
WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS EVERY YEAR THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR THEIR SAFETY AND THE COMMUNITY'S SAFETY, RIGHT, AND MAKING SURE RESIDENTS GET THE HELP THEY NEED AND ARE PRODUCTIVE IN OUR SOCIETY; RIGHT? ONE THING -- I SUPPORT ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE HERE, AND THANK YOU TO THE NONPROFIT PAR PARTNERS HERE.
I APPRECIATE YOU BR BREAKING THAT DOWN JUST TO SEE -- YOU KNOW, YOU SEE SOME OF THE SAME N NONPROFITS IN EVERY CATEGORY, AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING -- A LOT OF THEM ARE LOCATED IN DISTRICT 8, HEAD QUARTERED THERE. I WAS GOING TO ASK -- AND I HOPE MRI COLL COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT ME ON THIS TO INCLUDE IN THE HOMELESS HUDDLE, IF WE COULD INCLUDE, IF NOT ALREADY, SOME MEDICAL CENTER FOLKS, WHETHER IT'S UH -- UT HEALTH. METHODIST.
SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTS END UP AT THE HOSPITAL AT SOME POINT, AND THERE ARE SOME SERVICES I THINK UH COULD BE HE HELPFUL WITH, AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE PART OF THAT HOMELESS HUDDLE I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UN.
>> MUNGIA: THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN. AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT, MARK, TIME AND CAPACITY IS DIFFICULT, BUT HAVING SOMETHING MONTHLY FOR COUNCIL STAFF OR EVEN CHIEF OF STAFF MEETING THAT HAPPENS EVERY SO OFTEN FOR YOUR TEAM WOULD BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW WE TALKED AT THE BUDGET MEETING ABOUT THE SHELTER THAT WILL BE UNFORTUNATELY GOING O OFFLINE, AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN KAUR, THAT WAS NEWS TO YOU. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF THE INFORMATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON AS WELL AS STATISTICS ABOUT THE POPULATION, ALSO THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE. YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE EVERY MONTH IN THAT TIMELINE IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S NOTED -- YOU KN KNOW, 15% OF THOSE PEOPLE SEEKING RENTAL
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ASSISTANCE -- ACTUALLY. I'M SORRY. SHORT-TERM ASSISTANCE, WHICH I WOULD ASSUME INCLUDES RENTAL ASSISTANCE ARE HOMELESS, THAT'S A STAGGERING AMOUNT OF FOLKING SE SEEKING SHORT-TERM ASSISTANCE END UP THAT WAY. COUNCILMAN GALVAN.>> GALVAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR, AN MARK FOR THE PRESENTATION. DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE OF REQUESTS FROM MUNGIA AND COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ. I KNOW HEALTHCARE TAKES A LOT OF FOLKS IN, AND SOME RESIDENTS HAVE CALLED AND ASKED ABOUT HOW CAN -- AND I'VE GOT TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THIS STUFF, BUT HOW CAN OUR HEALTHCARE PROV PROVIDERS, WHETHER IT'S CONNECT WITH VIA OR ANYBODY ELSE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESS OR STRIFE DON'T GET LEFT OUT ONCE THEY'RE BETTER, FRANKLY OUT IN THE CO COLD; RIGHT? IS THERE SOMEONE TO CONNECT WITH, AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME PARTNERS, WITH HAVEN FOR HOPE IN PARTICULAR, BUT THERE'S A GAP THERE, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE FOLKS ARE SET UP FOR SUCCESS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE VERSUS FRANKLY LEFT OUT IN THE OPEN GOING, OKAY, YOU'RE BETTER NOW, BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WE GO. FIGURE OUT YOUR LIFE.
AND SO HOW TO BETTER STREAMLINE THOSE SER SERVICES THROUGH THE HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS. ON A SIMILAR NOTE, I WAS WONDERING, DO YOU KNOW IF THE CLOSE TO HOME SYSTEM IF THE LARGER HOMELESS SYSTEM TALKS ABOUT THE JAIL AND THE UNIVERSITY HEALTH FOR FOLKS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING INCARCERATION OR GOING THROUGH THE
INCARCERATION SYSTEM OF WHERE THEY'RE AT. >> SO ARE YOU LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON FOLKS WHO ARE HOMELESS AND INCARCERATED.
>> GALVAN: YEAH. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS STEMMING FROM DOES THIS LARGER SYSTEM OF INTEGRATED COORDINATORS OR AGENCIES, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE JAIL AS WE WELL, FOLKS ENTERING THE SYSTEM AND EXISTING, STILL HOMELESS, ANY KIND OF INTERVENTION SERV SERVICES, I KNOW THERE'S THE REENTRY, AND OF COURSE THE HEALTH IS THERE, BUT I WAS
WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF OVERLAP ON . >> YEAH.
I DO KNOW YEARS AGO AGO HAVEN STARTED A PROGRAM, A JAIL -- FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, JAIL DIVERSION PROGRAM SO PEOPLE HOMELESS IN JAIL GETTING BACK TO HAVEN CAMPUS, THAT PROGRAM HAS EXISTED FOR A FEW YEARS AND I THINK HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS CONTEMPLATED IN THE SHELTER HOUSING FRAMEWORK.
SO THAT SYSTEM -- AND THIS IS WHERE ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS WE'LL WORK WITH INTERNALLY AT THE CITY, THE INTEGRATED COMMUNITY SAFETY OFFICE, AND MARÍA VARGAS HAS BEGUN TO DO SOME WORK WITH US.
WE DID A PRODUCT DEMONSTRATION THE OTHER DAY OF PEOPLE THAT AT LEAST AND DID IT MATCH UP, AND THAT PERSON DID END UP IN HMIS, AND WE'RE ST STARTING TO SEE LINKAGE, SO WE WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND.
WE HAVE A MEETING, KATHY AND I -- IS IT THIS WE WEEK? YEAH. WITH THE FOLLOW UP THAT COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO GAVE US WITH IDA WITH THE REENTRY OFFICE BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE WHICH OPPORTUNITIES MAY EXIST, SPECIFICALLY WHEN SOMEONE RE-ENTERS BACK INTO COMMUNITY. ARE THEY -- ARE THEY HOUSELESS, AND IF SO, WHACK WE DO TO KIND O OF -- BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY THERE. AAND YOU COULD WRAP IT ON SOMEONE IN PERMANENT HOUSING OR EXIT STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD. SO I THINK YES, THE LONG ANSWER, YES TO YOUR QUESTION, I THINK THAT'S THE IMPORTANT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT ON THE DATA SIDE, AND ON RELATIONSHIPS, LIKE THE REENTRY SYSTEM THAT THE COUNCILWOMAN GAY US A LEAD ON AND PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> GALVAN: I APPRECIATE THE LON ANSWER BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE FUL SCOPE. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO FOR THE TRIP WE TOOK -- WAS IT LAST WEEK? MAN.
EVERY WEEK GOES BY FA FASTER -- THAT WE TOOK RECENTLY TO HARRIS COUNTY LOOKING AT THE DIVERSION CENTER, AND THAT WAS USEFUL TO ME, THE DATA CORRELATION THERE, YOU CAN IDEN IDENTIFY -- FOLKS ARE EXPERIENCING THE INCARCERATION SYSTEM MOVED TO DIVERSION AS WELL AS FOLKS WHO ARE -- NOT FULLY 1:1 BUT FOLKS EXPERIENCING HOME HOMELESSNESS WHO END UP IN THE INCARCERATION SYSTEM DUE TO DIFFERENT INSTANCES AND SO THAT WAS HELPFUL TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
CAN IS THIS BE L PERSON BE SUPPORTED OR GETTING OUT TO GO INTO BETTER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES SO I THINK THAT'LL BE A CRUCIAL PART OF THE LARGER ISSUE, NOT HO HOMELESSNESS, BUT FRANKLY JUSTICE, AND SO
JUST THINKING ABOUT TH THAT. >> AND IF I COULD ADD SOMETHING, COUNCILMAN, I DO THINK THE FIRST ME MEETING OF THE DIVERSION CENTER ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ WAS INSTRUCTIVE TO ME IN
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TERMS OF STARTING OUT -- AND COUNCILWOMAN IF I'M MISSTATING ANYTHING, PLEASE CORRECT ME, IT WAS LOWER LEVEL OFFENSES WE'RE LOOKING AT INI INITIALLY AS WE GET STARTED, WHICH FITS SOME OF THE PROFILE OF THE FOLKS WE'RE SERVING, AND SO WAYS TO BE ABLE TO DIVERT THOSE FOLKS FROM GOING INTO JAIL, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SYSTEM OF CARE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE SHELTER AND HOUSING FRAMEWORK.GOING TOEL GAL GOT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WAS GOING TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS DATA, THIS IS I INSIGHTFUL, AND TO TIE IT TO YOUR POINT, WHI WHICH -- THE DATA IS HELPFUL TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, HERE ARE SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE REP REPORTING OUT, THE WORK WE DO TO MAKE US STAY COORDINATED TOGETHER VERSUS THE EXTERNAL LOOK OF HOW ARE THESE THINGS PLUGGED TOGETHER, AND THEY ARE.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> GALVAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> MUNGIA: COUNCILWOMAN KAUR. >> KAUR: THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THE FOLLOW UP PRESENTATION, MARK, THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON, I LIKE HOW YOU TAKE IN SLIDE 3 BASED ON THE FEEDBACK AND SPREAD OUT EXACTLY HOW MAYBE -- YEAH. SO SPREAD OUT WHICH AGENCIES ARE ON EACH IN THE FOLLOWING THREE SLIDES.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT -- BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG CONVERSATIONS THIS CAME UP WITH WAS THERE WAS A DOLLAR AMOUNT ASSIGNED TO EACH OF THOSE, AND SO WHAT ARE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT EACH OF THOSE IS INVESTING INTO, FOR EXAMPLE, DIVERSION AND RAPID, EXIT, HOW MUCH IS CLOSE TO HOME IN HAVEN FOR HOPE PUTTING INTO THAT, AND THEN WHAT IS -- IF ANY, THE CITY FUNDING THAT GOES TO IT. SO WE CAN SEE NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE WORK, BUT THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT ARE GOING INTO THAT
SPACE. >> SO COUNCILWOMAN, IF I COULD.
SO LIKE ON DIVERSION OF RAPID EXIT, WE FUND CLOSE TO HOME HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO THAT PIECE, LISTING THAT AND THEN WHATEVER HAVEN
FOR HOPE PUTS INTO THAT BUCKET AS WELL. >> KAUR: EXACTLY.
EXACTLY. AND IF YOU WANT TO E EXTEND IT OUT TO THE ONE SLIDE, THE LAST SLIDE BEING THE OUTCOMES OF THAT, THAT WOULD BE HE HELPFUL. THE ONE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD WAS AROUND SYSTEM OUTCOMES IN THE TWO SLIDES THERE, HAVING THE NUMBERS AND THE PERCENTAGES HELPS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE'S JUST PERCENTAGES LISTED, AND SOMETIMES THERE'S NUMBERS, SO I'M NOT SURE -- I GUESS FOR, LIKE, STREET OUTREACH, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A TOTAL NUMBER THAT YOU COULD SAY LIKE HOW MA MANY -- LIKE STREET -- LIKE 28 -- FOR EXAMPLE, 2800 -- ONE, IS THIS FOR ALL OF THE STREET O OUTREACH OR JUST COSA
STREET OUTREACH. >> NO. I THINK THIS WAS ALL -- THIS WAS ALL SYSTEM-WIDE STREET OUTREACH OF PEOPLE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET OFF THE STREET INTO SOME FORM OF SHELTER OR HOUSING.
>> KAUR: SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO BE SPLIT UP SO WE COULD SEE, LIKE DELEGATE -- THE OTHER AGENCIES PROVIDING STREET O OUTREACH AND THEN THE COSA STREET OUTREACH, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BU TO BE ABLE TO SEE, LIKE THE NUMBER OF TOUCHES THAT THEY HAD I KNOW IT WOULD ONLY BE IF WE COULD HAVE THEM IN H SIS, SO FO EXAMPLE, IF IT WAS 2800 U UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS AND 4,000 OF THEM WERE -- HAD PROFILES IN THAT, SO WHAT PERCENTAGE THAT IS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE SO TO SEE WHAT OUR HOUSING RATE IS FOR THAT.
AND I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THOSE AGENCIES ARE PERFORMING DIFFER DIFFERENTLY; RIGHT? STREET OUTREACH IS ONE THAT'S SIMILAR -- LIKE THE WORK IS SIMILAR REGARDLESS OF WHAT AGENCY, IT'S JUST ABOUT BUILDING THE RIGHT CAPACITY, SO I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THAT NUMBER LOOKS LIKE FOR QUOTA SO ON STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM OR NURSING
PROGRAM OR FOR COSA'S PROGRAM. >> CAN I MAKE A COMMENT?
>> KAUR: SURE. >> YOU MAKE A GOOD PO POINT, AND WHAT WE'RE LEARNING ON STREET O OUTREACH IS THAT IT'S EVOLVED.
AND SO KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SYSTEMWIDE STREET OUTREACH, FOR EXAMPLE, CORAZON IS SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON HARM REDUCTION, SO THAT CAPACITY IS NOT NECESSARILY AVAILABLE FOR GENERAL OUTREACH, SO IF THE DATA DOES EXIST, WE CAN BREAK THAT DATA OUT SO WE KNOW WHAT INTERVENTIONS ARE WO WORKING WITH THE TYPE AND DEPTH OF OUTREACH
WORK. >> KAUR: THAT'S PERFECT. AND HOWEVER THAT DETAIL WORKS OUT TOO WOULD BE HELPFUL -- AND THEN TRANSITIONAL -- THE OTHER THING I WAS TH THINKING ABOUT, I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE ALL OF MY TRANSITIONAL HO HOUSING IS IN DISTRICT 1, I DON'T KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES DO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GET A BETTER -- SOMETIMES I HEAR ABOUT IT FROM MY NEIGHBORS, BUT WOULD LOVE TO AT LEAST SEE WHERE SOME OF THAT HOUSING -- IF WE COULD GET A MAP OF THESE ARE THE SPACES -- I KNOW WHERE THE CAMP SITES ARE AND WHERE THE MINISTRY SITES ARE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE SMALLER ONES, SO IT WOULD BE INTE INTERESTING IF WE COULD GET A BY-DISTRICT MAP OF WHERE FOLKS ARE GOING.
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>> MUNGIA: AND MAYBE I COULD AD FOR SAFETY REASONS, THAT'S AN EMAIL DIRECTLY TO US INSTEAD OF COMMITTEE REPORT OUT JUST SO WE'RE AWARE WE'RE KNOWING WHERE THAT IS.
>> KAUR: GREAT POINT. AND MAYBE A CONFIDENTIAL MEMO, SO MAYBE JUST FOR STAFF, NOT COMMUN COMMUNITYWIDE. AND THEN THE LAST THING, THE SAME QUESTION I HAD AROUND SLIDE 10 WAS ON THE EMERGENCY SHELTER.
SO IN THE EMERGENCY SHELTER, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE I A BUNCH OF EMERGENCY SHELTERS PROVIDING THAT SUPP SUPPORT; RIGHT? LIKE C CH, CS, SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF -- THIS IS THE OUTCOME FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE -- THIS IS WHAT THE ORGANIZATION IS DOING -- SORRY. YEAH. THESE ARE ALL THE AGENCIES DOING EMERGENCY SHELTER WORK, AND I UNDERSTAND THE TOTAL OUTCOME OF THAT IS 2300 INDIVIDUALS EXISTING, BUT HOW MANY ARE THEY STILL SERVING BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ARE -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LIKE AN ANNUAL -- OR WHATEVER THE RIGHT METRIC IS FOR THAT. AND THEN THE LAST THING, ON JUST ALIGNMENT AND SUPPORT, I'VE SEEN HOW HELPFUL THE COMMUNITY GROUP THAT IS -- THAT MEETS EVERY TWO WEEKS, I'VE HEARD STORIES FROM FOLKS ABOUT ONE AGENCY NOT BEING TO PROVIDE X SUPPORT SO THEY'RE ABLE TO DISCUSS IN THOSE ME MEETINGS PROVIDING WRAP AROUND SERVICES SO DISCUSS THAT, AND THEN I LIKE THE CHAIR'S IDEA OF DOING CH SHAREOUTS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY GO THE FULL HOUR -- AND I LIKE IT AS AN IDEA FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS TOO, LIKE THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET ALL OF OUR OFFICES ALIGNED ON WORK, AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT ACTUALLY FOR OTHER THINGS TOO WHERE THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT'S HAPPENING GETS REPORTED OUT TO THEM BECAUSE THEN IT COULD BE SHARED TO US EFFECTIVELY. SO I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA.
THANKS, CHAIR. >> AND I JUST WOULD R REMIND THE COMMITTEE THAT IN ADDITION TO THIS IDEA, KATHY AND HER TEAM ARE WORKING ON A NEWS LETTER BY COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT GIVES YOU MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD SHARE WITH CONSTITUENTS BUSINESS OWNERS, ET CETERA.
>> MUNGIA: THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. COUNCILWOMAN CASTILLO.
>> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, MARK, AND CHAIR AND TEAM FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I WOULD EMPHASIZE THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN MEETING, FACILITATING COLD CASES AND HOME HOMELESSNESS IN OUR DISTRICT, SO THERE WOULD BE VALUE IN 1, HER LE LEARNING WHAT'S MOVING IN YOUR TEAM AND DEPARTMENT AND WHAT SHE'S SEEING ON THE GROUND, AND THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHERE MY STAFF IS LIKE THAT'S NOT THE PROCESS OR THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY AS EASY AS IT'S PRESENTED TO YOU. SO THERE IS VALUE ON FOLKS ON MY TEAM DOING THE CASES HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH CONSTITUENTS, AND THIS ISN'T LIMITED TO YOUR TEAM AND DEPARTMENT, BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF I INSTANCES IN WHICH MY STAFF IS TELLING ME THERE'S MISSED OPPORTUNITY OR OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO IMPROVE PROCESSES, AND ALSO, THOSE ARE THE FO FOLKS THAT SEE ON THE FIRST -- WHEN THE R REALLOCATION FUNDS ARE OUT AND THEY'RE SAYING HEY, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE ACCESS TO THESE FUNDS. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK IN TERMS OF THE WORK AND INITIATIVES THAT YOU'RE LEADING, I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE EXHILARATING, FOR EXAMPLE, WHETHER IT'S FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR EMERGENCY SHELTER, IF THEY'RE ZONING OR UDC CHANGES THAT WE COULD INITIATE OUTSIDE OF CYCLE, THERE'S LOTS OF VALUE.
FOR EXAMPLE, WITH SOME OF THE EMERGENCIES TO PROVIDERS, I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A COUPLE ON THIS LIST WITH THE AND AGENCIES AND R RUNNING INTO ZONING CONCERNS, SO HOW COULD WE EXHILARATE THAT IN TERMS OF GETTING THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE THEIR SERVICES, BUT ALSO, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE COUNCILMEMBERS TO ALSO FACILITATE FIELD TRIPS IN OUR COMMUNITY, SO AS WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND EXP EXPANDING IN TERMS OF TRADITIONAL HOUSING SO THAT WAY OUR RESIDENTS ARE AWARE, WE TOOK RESIDENTS OUT, AND WHAT THEY SHARED WE DON'T KNOW THIS EXISTED. AND WE ASKED WOULD YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IF IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. SO THERE'S VALUE IN BRINGING CONSTITUENTS OUT TO THE FIELD TO SEE THE WORK BEING DONE SO THEY KNOW THE OPPORTUNITY AND THEN HOW ARE WE MEETING NEEDS AND MOVING COMMUNITY ALONG IN THIS CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF SERVICES.
LASTLY, I THINK THERE WOULD ALSO BE VALUE IN KNOWING THE CASE LOAD PER COSA OUTREACH WOR WORKER; RIGHT? THAT COULD INFORM OUR BUDGET CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF COST ON MY TEAM THEY RECEIVE IN NEED OF E ENCOMPMENTS HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, WHATEVER THAT COULD BE, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE ALL THE CASES GOING TO ONE
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INDIVIDUAL, SO I HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT SUPPORT LOOKS LIKE WHATDO WE NEED TO PROVIDE TO COUNCIL. >> AND I'LL ASK, THE NORMAL IS 30 -- THE MINIMUM IS 15 BUT THE NORMAL IS AROUND 30.
>> CASTILLO: OKAY. AND THEN I'M ALSO CURIOUS IN TERMS OF LIKE THE AVERAGE, LIKE IS THAT MANAGEABLE, IS THERE ANY
LOAD. >> WE CAN GET THAT BACK TO YOU.
>> CASTILLO: GREAT. THANKS. >> MUNGIA: A FEW YEARS AGO WE DID DO A FIELD TRIP TO COUNCIL STAFF TO GO TO SOME OF THOSE PLACES, I THINK THAT'S WORTHY, AND THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE THAT AT HAVEN FOR HOPE, BUT WE WILL HAVE A FUTURE PDCD MEETING THER FOR CONTEXT, HAVE SOME OF OUR PARTNERS TALK TO US ABOUT THE WORK AND THE NEED.
AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOMELESSNESS, THE TOP TWO BUDGET PRIORITY SURVEY RESULTS, SO WE'LL BE SEEING A LOT OF MARK HERE.
AND THANK YOU, YOU'RE SHIFTING THINGS IN A NEW DIRECTION, YOU CAME TO THE MEETING, AND IT WAS WELL RECEIVED. RIGHT.
PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD A LOT MORE AFTER THE CONVERSATION, AND SO FOLKS WHO THINKS IT'S TOO MUCH. HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH.
IS 25 MILLION IS TOO MUCH, WHAT'S THE RIGHT PRICE TO GET FOLKS HO HOUSED. SO KEEP DOING WORK, AND WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE.
>> THANKS, CHAIR. I KNOW THAT LIST SAN ANTONIO IS TRYING TO COORDINATE IN THIS ROOM IF POSSIBLE FOR STAFF, CHIEF OF STAFF, AND THEIR STAFF, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE HOUSING BOND, WE WANT TO DO IT WITH THE TOP AROUND TRADITIONAL HO HOUSING AND -- SO WE'VE DONE THIS EARLIER, AND I THINK IT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S UNDERSTANDING BUT NOW THE TERMS OF TRANSITIONAL AND RAPID REHOUSING ARE EMERGING WHETHER IT'S A BOND CONVERSATION IN OTHER AREAS WE THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO START WITH COUNCIL ST STAFF, JUST BE ABLE -- TO COUNCILWOMAN'S POINT, JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DIALOGUE TO PRESENT EDUCATION BUT HAVE QUESTIONS GOING BACK AND FORTH WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE, SO
LOOK FOR THAT COMING. >> MUNGIA: ABSOLUTELY. AWESOME.
THANK YOU. WELL, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR -- DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ALL RIGHTY, WELL THE TIME IS NOW 11:34, AND THE MEETING OF THE PCDC COMMITTEE IS CALLED TO AN END.
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