[00:00:05] >> MAYOR JONES: INTROO THE TIME IS 10:10 A.M. ON THE MEETING OF THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE IS CALLED TO ORDER. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> CLERK: >> MAYOR JONES: GREAT. IS THERE A MOATIONZ AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES GREAT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINTS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) (JACK FINGER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. . >> MADAM MAYOR, I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON NUMBER TWO. MAY I SPEAK WHEN THAT MATTER IS DELIBERATING UPON? >> MAYOR JONES: NO, WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY TAKE THEM ALL TOGETHER. SO YOUR COMMENTS NOW ARE FINE. >> OKAY. HERE IT GOES. ITEM NUMBER 2, MAIN AVENUE IS A MAIN STREET HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. MANY OF OUR MOTORISTS, CITIZENS TRAVEL UPON IT, HENCE THE NAME "MAIN." YOU ARE GOING TO USE 5,000 TAX DOLLARS, 5,000 TAX DOLLARS. GO AHEAD AND COUNT THEM. TO RENAME OREJON NOR PORTIONS OF IT IN HONOR OF WHO? A PERSON WHO'S NAME IS ERICA ANDREWS. BUT EXACTLY WHO IS ERICA ANDREWS? ERICA ANDREWS WAS ACTUALLY A MALE, A MAN BORN IN MEXICO AS BEST WE CAN TELL, HIS ORIGINAL NAME WAS EDDIE SALAZAR. THAT'S WHO I SHALL REFER TO FOR THE PRESENTATION. EDDIE SALAZAR MOVED TO THE UNITED STATES LEGALLY, ILLEGALLY, WE DON'T KNOW. BUT HE DECIDED TO BECOME -- >> MAYOR JONES: SIR, THIS IS ABOUT ERICA ANDREWS, THAT'S WHO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THIS OTHER PERSON WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OTHERWISE WE WON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> VERY GOOD, I'M SORRY YOU DON'T KNOW THAT, MADAM MAYOR. IT IS IN WIKIPEDIA, HIS ORIGINAL NAME. WHOM YOU REFER TO AS ERICA ANDREWS DECIDED TO BECOME A WOMAN AND, YES, BECAME, WELL, USED CHEMICALS TO BECOME A FEMALE FROM A MALE. I REFER TO THAT AS A PERVERSION IN ITSELF, BUT THEN THAT PERSON, AS YOU SAY ERICA ANDREWS, DECIDED TO BECOME A DRAG QUEEN PERFORMER. I CONSIDER THAT ANOTHER PERVERSION, AND SO CONSEQUENTLY -- AND PERFORMING AT VARIOUS HOMOSEXUAL LOUNGES UPON MAIN AVENUE, AND SO CONSEQUENTLY NOW CURRENTLY YOU FOLKS DECIDE YOU ARE GOING TO HONOR THIS CONGLOMERATION OF PERVERSIONS WITH A PORTION OF MAIN AVENUE NAMED AFTER WHOM YOU CAL CALL ERICA ANDREWS. THIS IS WRONG. QUITE FRANKLY, YOU ARE HONORING EVIL, AND YOU NEED TO, YES, STOP IT. SO I CALL UPON YOU TO QUITE FRANKLY, TO JUST SQUELCH THIS WHOLE IDEA. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ACTION ITEMS. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE'LL TAKE ALL THREE PRESENTATIONS BACK TO BAB FOR THE 3CCRS. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE'LL HAVE A MEAN START AND [INDISCERNIBLE] WE'LL TAKE ALL THREE BACK TO BACK. THROUGH. >> TOHMAZ: GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COUNCIL . I'M HERE TO PRESENT FOR A LARGE AREA REZONING FOR STONE RIDGE AREA. WE HAVE RECEIVED A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST IN MAY BY DISTRICT 10 AND THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE LARGE AREA REZONE FOR STONE RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD IN TWO DIFFERENT PHASES, AREA 1 AND 2. THE MAIN REASON FOR THIS IS TO REALIGN THE ZONING WITH EXISTING USE OF THE PROPERTY. TODAY THAT AREA HAS DUPLEXES MAINLY, AND THE AREA IS ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA, SO WE JUST WANT TO WORK ON THAT AND GET THAT CORRECTED. SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO REFER THIS TO A SESSION FOR CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE LARGE AREA REZONING. AND THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE TO CONDUCT ANALYSIS AND TO BRING FORWARD APPROPRIATE PLAN AMENDMENTS AND ZONING CHANGES. ALSO TO BRING NONCONFORMING CURRENT LAND USES INTO CONFORMANCE WITH APPROPRIATE ZONING. THAT IS MY PRESENTATION. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THREE, THEN QUESTIONS. OKAY. >> MAYOR JONES: ALL THREE TOGETHER. THANK YOU, AMIN. [00:05:03] GO AHEAD. TO. >> TOHMAZ: THE SECOND IS MINE AS WELL. THE SECOND IS FOR RENAME PART OF MAIN TO ERICA ANDREWS. WE RECEIVED THIS FROM DISTRICT ONE IN JUNE, AND THE REASON FOR IT IS TO HONOR ERICA ANDREWS FOR THE POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE QUEER COMMUNITY OF SAN ANTONIO, MAINLY TO DESIGNATE A SECTION OF NORTH MAIN AVENUE WITH ERICA ANDREWS MEMORIAL WAY BETWEEN EAST CYPRESS STREET AND EAST ASHBY PLACE. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO START THE REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES TECHNICAL REVIEWS, PUBLIC MEETINGS, HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION, PLANNING COMMISSION AND FINALLY TO GO FOR CONSIDERATION BY CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU. I WILL NOTE FOR THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR WE HAVE SEVERAL LETTERS FROM THE PUBLIC IN SUPPORT FOR THIS AS WELL. WE HAVE ONE FROM EQUALITY TEXAS, WE HAVE ONE FROM PRIDE CENTER SAN ANTONIO, DANIEL PACHECO, A MEMBER OF THE L -- A LEADER WITHIN THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> VILLAGOMEZ: GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. THE NEXT COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED BY COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ AND IS RELATED TO THE CREATION OF A TASK FORCE RELATED TO SAFE LODGING PARTNERSHIP. SO ONE OF THE ISSUES IDENTIFIED IN THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST IS THAT THERE ARE MANY AREAS OF OUR CITY THAT ARE EXPERIENCING PUBLIC SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH CERTAIN MOTELS. THIS COULD INCLUDE A HIGH CALLS FOR SERVICE TO OUR 9-1-1 SYSTEM AND OUR 3-1-1 SYSTEM, NUISANCE COMPLAINTS AND OTHER DISTURBANCES THAT AFFECT THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF OUR CITY. HOWEVER, THESE MOTELS ALSO PROVIDE SHORT-TERM LODGING SERVICES AND TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR SOME MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, SO THEY'RE ALSO VALUABLE PARTNERS TO OUR CITY. SO WHAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST SPECIFICALLY IS ASKING THAT WE EXPLORE ARE PARTNERSHIP WITH THESE MOTELS IN EXTENDED STAY OPERATIONS IN THOSE AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED HIGH CALLS RELATED TO OUR 9-1-1 SYSTEM OR OUR 3-1-1 SYSTEM, THAT WE ALSO LOOK INTO EVIDENCE-BASED PROGRAMS AND PERHAPS IN OTHER AREAS OF OUR CITY -- IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY WHERE WE COULD MODEL AND PERHAPS DO A PILOT PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO TARGET THOSE HIGH-PRIORITY QUARTERS OR OTHER PROPERTIES FOR AN INITIAL DEPLOYMENT THAT WOULD ESTABLISH METRICS FOR SUCCESS AND EVALUATE THE ESTIMATED COST AND POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES FOR THIS PROGRAM. SO ADDITIONALLY, THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST REQUESTS THAT WE DO AN EQUITY AND COMMUNITY IMPACT, ASSESSING STRATEGIES TO AVOID DISPLACEMENT OF VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND DEVELOP COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT THIS COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST BE MOVE FORWARD TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO GIVE OUR STAFF TIME TO EVALUATE WHAT OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTRY ARE DOING AND PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND AN ASSESSMENT OF THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, AND THEN FROM THERE, BRING THAT BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU, MARIA. OKAY. SO WE'VE RECEIVED THE PRESENTATION OF ALL THREE. WE'LL TAKE THE DISCUSSION AND VOTE BY EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM. SO ITEM 2 WAS A CCR BY COUNCILMEMBER MARC WHYTE WHO IS NOT HERE ON A LARGE AREA REZONING FOR THE STONE RIDGE REZONING. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR ANOTHER MOTION. >> VIAGRAN: I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. > >> MUNGIA: SECOND. >> MAYOR JONES: GREAT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> MAYOR JONES: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY NO. OKAY. THE MOTION PASSES. ITEM 3 IS A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST BY COUNCILMEMBER SUKH KAUR ON A MEMORIAL DESIGNATION OF ERICA ANDREWS WAY IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> VIAGRAN: I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> MUNGIA: SECOND. >> MAYOR JONES: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? >> VIAGRAN: I'D LIKE TO -- >> MAYOR JONES: PLEASE. >> VIAGRAN: AMIN, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE DID THIS ON PLEASANTON ALSO FOR ONE OF THE DOCTORS THERE. SO I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS KIND OF STREAMLINES -- THAT WE HAVE LIKE A CHECKLIST FOR PEOPLE BEFORE WE DO THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY WE COULD TAKE DESIGNATIONS DIRECTLY TO PLANNING AND START THE [00:10:01] STUDY PROCESS, OR DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO COME BEFORE GOVERNANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN AMIN QUESTION OR AN ANDY QUESTION. DO THESE DESIGNATIONS ALWAYS HAVE TO COME TO GOVERNANCE? >> TOHMAZ: SO RIGHT NOW, ANY CCR NEEDS TO COME TO GOVERNANCE TO BE DECIDED WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO NEXT. >> VIAGRAN: BUT IN TERMS OF DESIGNATION, DO WE NEED TO DO A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST TO GET A MEMORIAL DESIGNATION? >> I THINK THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE ORIGINATE MEMORIAL DESIGNATIONS FOR STREETS NOW. IF WE WANT TO HAVE A LARGER CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT PROCESS, I THINK WE CAN, BUT THAT'S THE CURRENT WAY, IS THAT IF THERE'S WANT TO DO A MEMORIAL DESIGNATION FOR A STREET THAT CCR'S GENERATED, AND WE'RE OFF TO DO THE WORK. >> VIAGRAN: IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN -- ANDY, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN -- >> SEGOVIA: THE ANSWER IS YES, COUNCILWOMAN, BUT AS JOHN REFERRED TO, THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND PROBABLY OTHERS IN TERMS OF COMING UP WITH A STREAMLINED PROCESS. BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCE, YES, THERE'S FLEXIBILITY THERE. >> VIAGRAN: OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS IN THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCE WE COULD LOOK AT THE FLEXIBILITY. THANK YOU. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TO GET UP AND TALK IN PUBLIC COMMENT. THEY CAN SAVE THAT FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MUNGIA? >> MUNGIA: AGREED, COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN. I THINK WE SHOULD DEVELOP A PROCESS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU RENAME A PARK OR CITY FACILITY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A CCR FOR THAT, THAT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS. SAME THING, HONESTLY, WITH THE LAST ITEM, LARGE AREA REZONING, WHY IS THAT A CCR PROCESS? IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DOES WITH THE COUNCILMEMBERS, SO WE CAN AVOID CCRS BASED ON JUST THESE TWO ITEMS. BUT HAPPY TO HAVE SIGNED ON ON THIS REQUEST, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE FOLKS WHO MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, SO I APPLAUD COUNCILWOMAN KAUR'S EFFORTS TO DO THIS IN THE FACE OF HATE AND UGLY I VITRIEL ALSO. >> MAYOR JONES: WE'LL COME BACK TO THE OTHER. I THINK THERE'S SIMILAR APPETITE OF REZONING NOT COMING TO HAVE TO IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> MAYOR JONES: OPPOSED? NO. NONE? OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. FINAL ITEM IS A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST BY COUNCILMEMBER JALEN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ FOR A SAFE LODGING PARTNERSHIP TASK FORCE TO COLLABORATE WITH MOTEL OPERATORS ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS. IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR ANOTHER MOTION? >> SECOND. COUNCILMAN MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: YES, THANK YOU, SO MUCH, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR YOUR DILIGENCE ON THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST. WE DID CHECK IN WITH THE OFFICE OF INTEGRATED COMMUNITY SAFETY TO GET FEEDBACK BEFORE FILING AND SUBMITTING AND WANTING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE IMPETUS BEHIND THIS REQUEST. AND LARGELY, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF OPERATIONS AND SAFETY CONCERNS THAT EXIST AT CERTAIN MOTELS REQUIRE US TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE IN ENGAGING ALL OF THESE MOTEL OPERATORS TO ENCOURAGE AND INCENTIVIZE EVEN SAFETY PRECAUTIONS LIKE FENCING, LIGHTING AND INCREASING COMMUNICATION WITH PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS. ULTIMATELY I CONSIDER THIS A FIRST STEP IN ANOTHER LAYER OF OUR ULTIMATE VIOLENT CRIME PREVENTION PLAN. I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS MOVING ALONG IN THE PROCESS AND THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR SUP POUTER. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: MARIA, FOR CLARITY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BUDGET LIFT, RIGHT, ONCE IMPLEMENTED. SO THE FULL SCOPE OF THAT WILL COME OUT OF WHATEVER DISCUSSION -- DON'T KNOW IF WE INCORPORATE OR CONSIDER IT RATHER AS PART OF '27 OR IF THEY'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT THAT QUICKLY, BUT THIS DOES SEEM LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME WITH SIGNIFICANT BUDGETARY -- POTENTIAL BUDGETARY CONSIDERATIONS, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MANAGING EXPECTATIONS ABOUT IF THIS IS EVEN SOMETHING THAT WE'D LOOK AT IN '27, OR IF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE COULD LOOK AT IT THAT QUICKLY. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: I GUESS WHAT I'LL CONVEY IS THAT CONVENING FOLK, OTHER THAN STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES DOESN'T COME WITH THE FUNDING REQUEST. THERE MAY BE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPEN AS A PART OF THE WORK THAT, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL ITEMS MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR FUNDING, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE REQUEST ITSELF NECESSARILY NECESSITATES BUDGET CONVERSATION JUST YET. >> VILLAGOMEZ: GIVEN THE TIMING WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, OUR NEXT PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WILL BE IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST, SO WE'LL START THE CONVERSATION AND EXPLORE WHAT OPTIONS ARE OUT THERE, PERHAPS AN ORDINANCE THAT MAY PUT SOME REQUIREMENTS, IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT. SO A LOT OF WORK TO DO, MAYOR. I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE PREPARED FOR THE 2027 BUDGET TO PROVIDE AN ESTIMATED COST. AND AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT -- IF THERE'S GOING [00:15:01] TO BE -- THE EXTENT OF ANY COST. SO I THINK IN THE EVENT, DEPENDING ON HOW WE DEVELOP THAT PROCESS AND THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND UPDATE THE COUNCIL. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU. I MEAN, I JUST THINK ABOUT THE CONVERSATION WE HAD YESTERDAY WHICH WAS THE PREBRIEF FOR THE BUDGET DISCUSSION TOMORROW BUT WE ACTUALLY OUTLINED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY FOR CONSIDERATION FOR CUT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE KEY TO IMPLEMENTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTH ABOVE THOSE AT THE SAME TIME AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING WHAT OTHER COST CONSIDERATIONS MAY BE INVOLVED. COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN? >> VIAGRAN: YEAH, I LIKE THE SPIRIT AND THE IDEA OF THE TASK FORCE, AND I DON'T MIND SENDING IT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, I'VE GOT PRESA, ROOSEVELT, MILITARY DRIVE, THERE'S ALWAYS A PRICE TAG. AND FOR ME TO GO AND ASK MY SMALL BUSINESSES TO DO ANY OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IS GOING TO COST. AND THEY'RE GOING TO ASK ME HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR THAT? SO I REALLY FEEL LIKE WHEN WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, WE NEED TO BEGIN AT THE ROOT EFFORT IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH THE HOTEL OWNERS AND SEEING WHAT THEIR APPETITE IS, BECAUSE IF I -- IF THEY'RE MAKING MORE DOING STUFF -- I'VE HAD TO COME WITH CODE. LIKE THIS IS MY OTHER THING, I'VE HAD TO COME WITH CODE. I'VE HAD TO COME WITH SAPD TO TRY AND MAKE THESE THINGS SAFER. SO I DO -- I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MAYOR IS THAT WE ASK FOR THESE THINGS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE -- WHERE IS THE PILOT MONEY COMING FROM? IF I PILOT A PROGRAM, I PAY FOR THAT PROGRAM. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT WHO -- WHERE IS -- WHERE ARE THE DOLLARS GOING TO COME FROM? IS IT GOING TO COME FROM OUR FUNDS AND WHAT SORT OF FUNDS DO WE GET AS COUNCILMEMBERS, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH OUR -- I DON'T THINK NAMFPS AVAILABLE. I DON'T THINK WHERE WE HAVE THIS TO PILOT A PROGRAM. ANYTHING THAT'S PILOTED WE SHOULD KNOW WHERE THAT FUND'S GOING TO COME WHEN THAT PRICE COMES TO IT. SO I'M PLEASED -- IN AUDIO] -- ISSUE, BUT, AGAIN, WE NEED TO BE WILLING TO FIND THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THIS, BECAUSE I KNOW IN MY AREA IN PARTICULAR, IT'S GOING -- IT'S A REALLY BIG ASK TO ASK THEM TO IMPLEMENT THIS WHEN WE'RE NOT PROVIDING ANY INCENTIVE TO DO SO. SO, YEAH, THAT'S MY FRUSTRATION, TOO, AND WE JUST -- WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT OUR BUDGET. AND I'M HOPING TOMORROW'S CONVERSATION COMES WITH SOME VERY SOLID IDEAS IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK THIS BUDGET OUT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MUNGIA? >> MUNGIA: YES, THANK YOU, MARIA, FOR THE PRESENTATION. I DID SIGN ON THIS BECAUSE I AM SUPPORTIVE. I DO HAVE SOME SMALLER OPERATORS ON MY SIDE OF TOWN, ALSO ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND I OFTEN WONDER WHAT HAPPENS AND GOES ON THERE. AND I THINK -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MONEY SOLUTION, WHAT I SEE IN THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST IS A LOT OF LIKE ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE EXPLORE VOLUNTARY ADOPTION MODELS, IDENTIFY, WORK WITH RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. SO WHAT I KIND OF SEE IN THIS IS NOT -- EVEN IF THERE ARE NEFARIOUS THINGS HAPPENING AT CERTAIN MOTELS, IT MAY NOT BE WITH THE PERMISSION OR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE OWNER. I THINK SOMETIMES THE OWNER MAY NOT EVEN BE THERE, IT MIGHT BE A MANAGER, OR THERE MIGHT BE HOMELESS FOLKS WHO ARE STAYING AT SOME OF THESE LOW-COST MOTELS AS AN OPTION AND ARE DEALING WITH OTHER ACTIVITIES THERE AS A RESULT OF THEM STAYING, SO I THINK IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED SITUATION. I THINK MOST OF WHAT HAPPENS THERE, IF IT'S NEFARIOUS OR BAD THINGS, OR VERY LOW-INCOME FOLKS OR NO INCOME, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY LACK OF WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITIES, THERE'S PROBABLY THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE DOING THOSE THINGS INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING A BUDGET OPTION, IT'S TURNING INTO MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE OWNERS KNOW, IF YOU DO HAVE SOMEBODY STAYING HERE WHO SEEMS TO BE HOMELESS, THERE ARE ALL THESE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THESE FOLKS, WE CAN COME BACK WITH OUR CITY STAFF AND CONNECT WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE. SO I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARILY IS A COST, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STAFF REDUCTIONS, THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION, BUT I THINK THIS IS A WORTHWHILE THING TO EXPLORE AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE IN THESE DIFFERENT PLACES, SO DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK WITH Y'ALL TO IDENTIFY SOME SPOTS IN DISTRICT FOUR THAT WE THINK MIGHT BE GOOD CANDIDATES TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU. OF COURSE, SUPPORT IN GENERAL, THE IDEA OF, ONE, REDUCED WORKLOAD FOR CHIEF MCMANUS. I'LL NEVER FORGET, LAST BUDGET HE TODAY UP RIGHT THERE, I SAID WHAT IS YOUR ASKED BASED ON, AND HE SAID WORKLOAD. SO IF WE HAVE THINGS THAT ARE A CRIME-FREE LODGING [00:20:01] CERTIFICATION THAT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD REDUCE THE LOAD OF CHIEF MCMANUS AND THE OFFICERS CAN BE FOCUSED ON OTHER THINGS AS WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO ADDRESS, AS YOU POINT OUT, COUNCILMAN, THE CRITICAL PARTNER THEY ARE IN ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS FOR MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE OVERALL PICTURE -- AND I THINK WE ARE SCRUTINIZING THIS, NOT JUST BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO WORK VERY WELL, BUT ALSO AS MENTIONED BY A COUPLE OF FOLKS, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED NOT JUST WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT, BUT EVEN THOSE FOLKS THAT WOULD BE PULLED OFF FROM OTHER THINGS TO EVEN FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN PRACTICE, RIGHT, ON TOP OF THEN IDENTIFYING WHAT THE INCENTIVE ITSELF MAY BE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND SO AS WE BALANCE THAT, MARIA, WITH, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE COST IMPLEMENTED, HERE ARE, THEN, THE THINGS THAT ARE VOLUNTARY, RIGHT, SO IT'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR VOLUNTARY. AND I THINK JUST GIVEN THE FISCAL ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE? IS IT A NOBLE INTENT? I COMPLETELY AGREE IT IS, IF THERE ARE FOLKS THAT WANTED TO DIVE INTO IT, BUT THERE IS THE REALITY OF WHAT COUNCILWOMAN VIAGRAN JUST DESCRIBED AS WELL, WHICH IS -- WELL, THE REALITY OF SOME OF THESE BUSINESS OPERATORS THAT HAVE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON THERE. SO ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC? NO. OKAY. SO SENDING THIS TO PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE RECOMMENDATION. WITH SOME -- BECAUSE IT IS WORTHWHILE, SOME KIND OF MORE FULSOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE COST PROFILE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS MIGHT BE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AS WELL AS THE THINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY COME WITH IT. AND WHO ARE SOME OF THE OTHER PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT COULD HELP US. >> VILLAGOMEZ: SURE. >> MAYOR JONES: -- ENSURE THIS IS AS AWK SESFUL AS POSSIBLE. >> VILLAGOMEZ: AND MAYOR, IF IT'S HELPFUL, WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM THAT IS FOCUSING ON RESIDENTIAL HOMES. WE HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THOSE APARTMENT CCOMPLEXES THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC THROUGH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE, WE HAVE THE DART PROGRAM THAT IS LED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT IDENTIFIES PROPERTIES THAT HAVE -- MEET CERTAIN CRIMINAL THRESHOLDS THAT WE ADDRESS. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE PROGRAMS, AND MARIA VARGAS' TEAM HAS STARTED RESEARCH WITH OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR. SO WE'RE EXPLORING THOSE OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WITH THAT EVALUATION AND SOME OPTIONS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT OUR BUDGET CONSTRAINTS. >> MAYOR JONES: DOES THIS -- IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WRAPPED INTO WHAT DR. SMITH IS DOING, HIS EFFORTS, THE CRIME PREVENTION? >> VILLAGOMEZ: IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE CRIME PREVENTION IS FOCUSING PRIMARILY ON WHAT WE CALL HOT SPOT AREAS WITH HIGH CRIME. THIS COULD BE PART OF THAT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY. SO WE'LL EVALUATE THAT OPTION. NOW, THE SOLUTIONS FOR THOSE PROPERTIES IS WE DO THE HOT SPOT POLICING FIRST, AND THEN WE DO THE PLACE-BASED POLICING HERE WE INTERACT WITH OTHER -- BRING OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT, TO CONNECT INDIVIDUALS TO SERVICES, SO IT COULD WORK AS PART OF ALL THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF CALLS MAY NOT BE SELECTED TO BE ONE OF THOSE HOT SPOTS THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THROUGH THAT PLAN. >> MAYOR JONES: THANKS, MARIA, JUST GIVEN HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT PROGRAM IS AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, IF IT COULD DOVETAIL ON THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE USEFUL AND EFFICIENT. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO SEND THIS TO PUBLIC SAFETY WITH ALL THE CONSIDERATIONS NOTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> MAYOR JONES: ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. GREAT. HAPPY PRIDE. THE TIME IS 10:34 A.M. 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