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HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION.
HOMER, COULD WE TEST YOUR MICROPHONE? THANK YOU.
UH, MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MAM.
UH, MAY WE HAVE TRANSLATION SERVICES, PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON.
THE HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
I'M ACTING CHAIR JEFFREY FETZER.
IT IS THE FUNCTION OF THE COMMISSION TO ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND ALL RELEVANT CITY DEPARTMENTS CONCERNING ALL APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS FOR PROPERTIES IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS FOR LANDMARKS ON CITY PROPERTY, IN THE RIVER IMPROVEMENT OVERLAY, AND FOR DEMOLITIONS.
IN CONSIDERING WHETHER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, THE COMMISSION SHALL BE GUIDED BY THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND DESIGN GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN APPEAL OF A DECISION BY AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIAL CAN BE FILED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IF ANYONE PRESENT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO ANY ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA, PLEASE SIGN UP ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT SHEET.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO SIGN UP.
IF YOU ARE THE OWNER OF OR REPRESENTATIVE FOR A PROJECT ON THE AGENDA, YOU'LL BE CALLED ON AS THE CASE IS CALLED.
CASE REPRESENTATIVES WILL BE GIVEN NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE WITH AN ADDITIONAL TWO MINUTES TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SPEAKERS FOUR OR OPPOSED TO A CASE WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES.
EACH SPEAKERS MAY ALSO SIGN UP TO YIELD THEIR TWO MINUTES TO ANOTHER SPEAKER WHO HAS SIGNED UP.
ANYONE WHO IS YIELDING THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AT THE TIME THE SPEAKER IS CALLED UPON.
SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED UPON IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE SIGNED UP FOLLOWING PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
ANY COMMISSIONER MAY CALL UPON ANY SPEAKER TO RESPOND TO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
APPROVAL BY THE COMMISSION DOES NOT TAKE THE PLACE OF ANY TYPE OF PERMIT.
PERMITS MUST BE OBTAINED FOR ALL WORK.
CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR WORK APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION WILL BE EMAILED TO YOU WITHIN 10 DAYS.
NO WORK OF ANY TYPE IS TO BE STARTED WITHOUT OBTAINING THE APPROPRIATE CITY PERMITS.
AFTER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HAS BEEN ISSUED BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AT THIS TIME, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OTHER THAN CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED THIS FRIDAY, UM, JULY 3RD FOR OBSERVATION OF THE JULY 4TH HOLIDAY.
SO PLEASE PLAN ACCORDINGLY FOR PERMITS AND WHATNOT.
UM, YOU CAN CONTACT 3 1 1 IF YOU NEED.
UM, IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE FROM CITY SERVICES.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HERE FOR GENERAL ITEMS. AND SO BIANCA MALDONADO, IF YOU WANNA COME UP AND MAKE COMMENTS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
BIANCA MALDONADO WITH MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION POST OFFICE BOX 1 0 0 3 1 5 7 8 2 0 1.
UM, MY PUBLIC COMMENT IS I'M ASKING FOR CONSISTENCY.
WHEN WE REVIEW ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE HDRC AGENDA, WE ARE DEPENDENT ON THE INFORMATION THAT IS SUBMITTED.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME THRESHOLD FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND FOR APPLICATIONS THAT COME THROUGH HDRC, SPECIFICALLY WITH PHOTOS OF THE OVERALL SITE AND SETTING.
WHEN THERE ARE CHANGES THAT ARE GONNA OCCUR TO A STRUCTURE, UNDERSTANDING THE ELEMENTS ON ALL SIDES OF THAT BUILDING ARE CRUCIAL TO WHEN OUR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETS TO REVIEW THIS.
IF WE'RE REQUIRING IT FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, WE SHOULD HOLD THEM TO THE SAME STANDARD FOR WHEN IT COMES BEFORE YOU OR C TTAB.
AND SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR THAT.
WE'VE SEEN IT INCONSISTENT AND AT TIMES IT RAISES QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS BECAUSE WE CAN'T TRESPASS, BUT IT ALSO GIVES US A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THERE ARE INTENTIONS TO MAKE CERTAIN CHANGES.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF MY COMMENTS.
UM, AT THIS TIME WE CAN DRAW OUR ATTENTION TO THE SCREEN.
UM, WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
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LETTERS BEFORE THAT COREY MEETING MINUTES.UM, YEAH, MEETING MINUTES FROM JUNE 17TH.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MEETING MINUTES FROM JUNE 17TH.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? SINO? AYE.
[CONSENT AGENDA The consent agenda consists of items recommended by staff for approval or approval with stipulations that the applicant accepts. Any member of the public who would like to speak on a consent agenda item may sign up and speak prior to the commission’s vote on the consent agenda. Commissioners may request to remove any item from the consent agenda to consider it individually. All items on the consent agenda will be considered for approval by one motion adopting the items with staff findings and recommendations.]
WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY.UM, YOU DO HAVE LETTERS IN YOUR, UM, PACKETS FOR TWO OF THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN WE HAVE A SPEAKER FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, BIANCA MALDONADO.
BIANCA MALDONADO MONTICELLO PARK, PO BOX 1 0 0 3 1 5 7 8 2 0 1 MPA REQUESTED THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION OF THE EXISTING ONE HALF OF THE PARKMORE BUILDING AT 1909 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD WHEN IT FACED DEMOLITION IN 2007 AND 2008.
WE CELEBRATE ITS SUCCESSFUL RESTORATION IN OPERATIONS TODAY AS A DANCE STUDIO.
WE SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF MS. RIO'S DEVELOPMENT AT 1901 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD TO RESTORE THE MISSING HALF OF THE PARKMORE BUILDING AND ARE SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS ONE THROUGH FIVE.
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR THE INCLUSION OF A SIXTH STIPULATION THAT THE FENESTRATION PATTERN AND ARTICULATION BE REEVALUATED ON THE DONALDSON AVENUE SIDE.
IT'S LABELED THE RIGHT SIDE ELEVATION.
IT IS THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AS THE APPLICANT WORKS TOWARDS FINAL APPROVAL, WE MAKE THIS REQUEST SO THAT THE OPENINGS THEIR SIZE, PROPORTION, AND PATTERNS ON THIS ELEVATION RELATES TO THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS SEDITION RISE TO THE SAME QUALITY AND CRAFTSMANSHIP AS 1909 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.
WE WISH THE APPLICANT THE BEST AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT IN THIS REDEVELOPMENT.
SO WE ARE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS INITIATIVE.
DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION? MR. CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER TWO, ANY OTHER CASES TO BE PULLED? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE.
MR. CHAIR, I MOTION TO ACCEPT ITEMS 1, 3, 4, AND FIVE ALL WITH STAFF STIPULATIONS FOR APPROVAL.
ANY DISCUSSION MAY HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
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AGENDA AND YOUR ADDRESS IS 4 0 2 CARLTON COURT, TWO 18 ADAMS 1901 FREDERICKSBURG, OR 1103 CINCINNATI, YOUR CASE HAS BEEN APPROVED AND YOU DO NOT NEED TO STAY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS HEARING.IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT A MEMBER OF STAFF.
YOUR COMMISSION ACTION LETTER OR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WILL BE PREPARED AND EMAILED TO YOU WITHIN 10 DAYS.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, AND CAN SOMEBODY MAKE THE APPLICANT A PANELIST? I HAVEN'T PULLED IT UP YET.
SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE VIRTUALLY.
UM, JUSTIN, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF JUST TO SEE IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN HEAR YOU.
IS IT THE CALLING NUMBER? OKAY, THERE WE GO.
UM, SORRY, I WAS HAVING TROUBLE FINDING THE UNMUTE.
UM, WE ARE APPLYING TO PUT IN A RAMP FOR MY MOTHER WHO LIVES HERE.
UM, SHE'S 70 YEARS OLD AND HAS FALLEN AND SHE USES A WALKER.
THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY SHE'S ABLE TO GET OUT WITH, WITHOUT THE STEPS.
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SAVINO, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES, I DO.UM, MR. CHAIR, THE REASON I PULLED THIS, I PULLED THIS LAST SESSION BECAUSE I DID HAVE QUESTIONS AND UM, QUESTIONS TO STAFF OR EVEN TO THE APPLICANT IS, UM, THIS RECEIVED A, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
WHY ARE WE HEARING THIS? AT THIS HEARING? SO WE OFFERED AN ADMIN APPROVAL FOR TEMPORARY INSTALLATION, UM, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THEIR MOTHER WHILE THEY WAITED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IT STILL NEEDS APPROVAL TO BE INSTALLED PERMANENTLY, AND THAT IS THE REQUEST ULTIMATELY.
UM, BUT THEY DID HAVE A PREVIOUS APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TEMPORARY INSTALLATION, THE TEMPORARY.
AND HOW LONG DOES A TEMPORARY COA LAST I DID WE SAY SIX MONTHS, TWO YEARS.
UM, MY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT IS THAT, UM, UH, TYPICALLY, UH, WE TRY TO LOCATE THESE, UH, S TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AS WELL AS TO THE, OR TO THE BACKSIDE WHERE IT'S JUST A LITTLE LESS OBVIOUS OR LESS VISIBLE.
UM, WHY HAVE YOU CHOSEN, OR WOULD YOU CONSIDER PUTTING THIS ON THE SIDE OR CONNECTING TO A BACK DOOR? OH, NO, THE, THE BACK IS, IS NOT REALLY AN OPTION BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT PAVED BACK THERE.
SO IT'S VERY HARD FOR HER TO, TO NAVIGATE ON THE, THE UNPAVED PART BEHIND THE HOUSE.
UM, AND, UM, SHE'D HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE KITCHEN, UH, TO GET OUT AND WE'D HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER RAMP OUTSIDE TO GET HER DOWN THAT, THAT PORTION AS WELL.
YOU MEAN TO INCLUDE, SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT YOU COULD NOT HAVE TWO RAMPS? WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M, YEAH, WELL, I GUESS WE'D ONLY NEED ONE, UM, ON, IF WE DID IT ON THE BACK, BUT THE, THE DRIVEWAY'S NOT PAVED AND IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD FOR HER TO, TO NAVIGATE ON THE UNPAVED, UH, WITH ALL THE, THE ROCKS.
UM, UM, MR. CHAIR, THE REASON WHY I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE THE, UH, SURVEY SHOWS A PAVED AREA, BUT OUR GOOGLE EARTH SHOWS THAT, UH, THERE'S A FURTHER PAVING IN THE BACK.
IT'S HARD TO TELL WHETHER IT IS GRAVEL, UM, OR IF IT IS CONCRETE.
UM, BUT IT DOES SHOW A LOT OF PARKING AND IT WHAT LOOKS TO BE IMPERVIOUS COVER IN THE BACK.
SO I REMAIN, YOU KNOW, CURIOUS WHETHER THAT COULD, THIS PER THIS RAMP COULD BE PLACED ON THE BACK AND WITHOUT PHOTOS OF THE BACK.
SO THAT'S THE BASIS OF MY, UM, WOW.
ANY S ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER GROUP, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A QUESTION I WAS JUST VALIDATING.
THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THERE IS NO GRAVEL OR THERE IS GRAVEL, THERE IS NO CONCRETE.
UM, AND THEN TO THE APPLICANT AS WELL, THIS IS NOT A PERMANENT SOLUTION, RIGHT? IT'S REMOVABLE, WHICH THE, THE RAMP THAT THEY'RE GONNA INSTALL? YES.
UM, I'M, I'M NOT TOO SURE MY BROTHER IS TAKING ALL THAT, BUT HE IS OUTTA TOWN, SO HE HAD ME STEP IN FOR HIM, BUT I, I BELIEVE IT'S REMOVABLE.
AND THEN I THINK ONE QUESTION WE HAD LAST TIME WAS, UH, THIS RAMP GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? THERE'S NOT LIKE A SPACE BETWEEN THE DRIVEWAY AND WHERE THE RAMP STARTS OR THERE IS, OH, THERE, THERE'S A SMALL SPACE THAT WILL END UP PUTTING SOME STONES.
SO, SO THE DOOR CAR DOORS CAN SWING OUT AND THEN, AND LET HER IN.
YEAH, LIKE BIG PAVERS WHERE THERE IS RIGHT GRASS.
BUT THERE WILL BE SOME SPACE BETWEEN THE YES.
IF THERE'S, I'LL DO A MOTION IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAQUE IS A QUE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, I IS IT, UM, SEE HOW TO, HOW TO ASK THIS QUESTION E EXPERIENTIALLY FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR MOM.
I IS, UM, THE EXPERIENCE COMING IN THE FRONT DOOR, UH, I IMAGINE I, IS IT IMPORTANT TO HER? I MEAN, HOW, HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT IT WOULD MAKE HER FEEL IF SHE HAD TO COME IN THROUGH THE BACK DOOR ON, YOU KNOW, ON A DAILY BASIS? IS THIS ALSO ABOUT HOW SHE PERCEIVES, UH, HER, HER INCLUSION AND NORMAL, NORMAL, UH, ENTRY? NO, I, I THINK THAT THIS IS MORE ABOUT THE, UM, THE ACCESSIBILITY.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, THE BACK IS JUST NOT REALLY AN OPTION.
THIS IS JUST THE ONLY, THE ONLY OPTION WE HAVE
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RIGHT NOW WITHOUT, UH, THE BACK BEING ABLE TO BE AN OPTION.OKAY, COMMISSIONER GRU, YOU HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.
HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? CAN I JUST SAY A COUPLE COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
AND THEN WHILE THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, ACCEPTIBILITY THING AND I THINK THAT ALSO THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT A PERMANENT, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT SOLUTION OR PERMANENT STRUCTURE TO THE HOME IN THE FRONT.
AND, UM, I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE, UH, IN THIS BODY CANNOT QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS STAYED IN.
UM, IF, IF THEN STAFF FINDS SOMETHING DIFFERENT AT A SITE VISIT, THEN WE CAN DISCUSS OTHER OPTIONS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, OKAY, THE APPLICANT IS STATING WHAT THE STATE IS AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, FACT CHECK THAT.
UM, SO I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, HAD MADE REASONABLE CASE FOR THIS TO BE INSTALLED IN.
UH, COMMISSIONER GUEVARA, ANY QUE ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS RIGHT NOW, SIR.
COMMISSIONER DAVIS? NO COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER ZUKA? NO, NO COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER ZO? NO COMMENT SIR.
COMMISSIONER SAVINO, UH, JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS.
UM, I DO THINK THAT WHEN WE TYPICALLY HAVE A CASE, UM, COMING TO HDRC, HAVING A COMPLETE SET OF PHOTOS AND DRAWINGS TO DOCUMENT THE SITE IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND THAT'S THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WOULD, UM, ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS.
UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, OR THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS WITH THE, AT LEAST THE PHOTO OF THE FRONT PORCH, THE WIDTH OF THE RAMP AND HOW IT'S BEING PLACED, I, WELL, I HAVE LIKE MANY PEOPLE, LOTS OF EXPERIENCE WITH, UM, OUR OLDER AND DISABLED FAMILY MEMBERS, SO I KNOW EXACTLY HOW THESE THINGS CAN WORK, BUT THE FRONT DOOR APPEARS TO BE A BLOCK IF YOU HAVE A FIRST RESPONDER, SOMEBODY ELSE WHO NEEDS TO GET IN, UM, IT JUST MAKES IT THAT MUCH TRICKIER OR CHALLENGING.
UM, SO THAT WAS MY OTHER CONCERN.
COMMISSIONER VELAZQUEZ? NO SIR.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? SAVINO? AYE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX HDRC CASE NUMBER 2026 DASH 1 62 2 14 ADAM STREET, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL.
ONE, CONSTRUCT A TWO STORY REAR ADDITION.
CONSTRUCT A TWO STORY REAR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL OF ITEMS ONE AND TWO BASED ON THE FINDINGS WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.
ONE THAT THE APPLICANT REUSED HISTORIC WINDOWS ON SITE THAT WERE REMOVED AS A RESULT OF THE FOLLOWING, UM, PROPOSED STRUCTURES AND ADDITIONS.
TWO, THAT THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BE PROVIDED REGARDING THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED ADDITION.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD EXPLORE THE SHORTEST POSSIBLE HEIGHT FOR THE PROPOSED ADDITION.
THAT THE APPLICANT INSTALLS A FULLY WOOD OR ALUMINUM CLA WOOD WINDOW THAT MEETS STAFF STANDARD STIPULATIONS AS FOLLOWS.
THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE WINDOW DOOR SPECIFICATIONS FOR REVIEW PRIOR TO RETURNING FOR FINAL REVIEW.
THAT THE APPLICANT INSTALLED A STAINING SEA METAL ROOF WITH STAFF STANDARD STIPULATIONS AS FOLLOWS.
THE PROPOSED RAILINGS ON THE BALCONY AND REAR FACING PORCHES FEATURES BOTH THE TOP AND BOTTOM RAIL.
THE BOTTOM RAIL MUST FEATURE A VERTICAL ORIENTATION AND SHOULD BE INSTALLED APPROXIMATELY THREE TO FOUR INCHES ABOVE THE PORCH DECKING.
BOTH TOP AND BOTTOM RAILS MUST BE CONSTRUCTED FROM A TWO BY FOUR MEMBERS.
THE PROPOSED RAILING MUST NOT FEATURE AN OVERALL HEIGHT OF MORE THAN THREE FEET.
SEVEN, THAT THE NEW WOOD COLUMNS BE A MAXIMUM OF SIX BY SIX INCHES IN WIDTH AND FEATURE A TRADITIONAL CAP AND BASE IN SANFORD CORNERS.
THAT THE APPLICANT BISECT THE PROPOSED REAR FACING DOUBLE WIDE GARAGE DOOR TO MIMIC TWO SEPARATE GARAGE DOORS.
THAT THE APPLICANT SAW THE FULLY WOOD GARAGE DOOR OR GARAGE DOOR WITH THE DESIGN THAT MIMICS WOOD CONSTRUCTION THAT FEATURES THE FOLLOWING, UH, CHARACTERISTICS 10.
THAT THE APPLICANT INSTALL FIBER CEMENT LAPSE SIDING FEATURING A FOUR INCH REVEAL IN A SMOOTH FINISH.
AND 11 THAT THE APPLICANT MEETS ALL SETBACK STANDARDS AS REQUIRED BY CITY ZONING AND OBTAIN A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IF APPLICABLE.
UM, THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE IN PERSON, UH, JAIME
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JIMENEZ AND CHRISTIAN VASQUEZ.UM, I WOULD STAFF WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE TOO, THAT THERE ARE TWO LETTERS IN YOUR FOLDER FOR THIS REQUEST AND ALSO THAT THERE IS AN UPDATED, UH, PLAN IN THE LATE FOLDER THAT, UH, ADDRESSES SOME OF STAFF STIPULATIONS AND COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS, UH, SPECIFICALLY PERTAINING TO THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED REAR EDITION AND THE REAR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
AND, UM, IF THE APPLICANTS WANNA COME UP AND MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION, YOU'LL HAVE 12 MINUTES.
MY NAME'S CHRISTIAN VASQUEZ, UH, ARCHITECT ON THIS PROJECT.
UM, WE ARE APPLYING TO DO A REMODEL FOR THE EXISTING, UM, MAIN STRUCTURE AS WELL AS A REAR ADDITION.
UM, AS FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE, UM, FOR THE ADDITION, WE WISH TO ADD A SECOND FLOOR AS WELL AS JUST MAINLY INTERIOR, UM, REMODEL, UM, KEEPING ALL THE SAME HISTORIC DESIGN THAT THE PROJECT CURRENTLY HAS, UM, AND REMOVING SOME OF THE INTERIOR WALLS TO MAKE MORE SPACE TO MAKE IT MORE OF AN OPEN FLOOR PLAN.
AS FOR THE UH, REAR ADDITION, UM, IT'S ABOUT A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
UM, WE'RE KEEPING IT EXTREMELY BASIC, UM, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REAR ADDITION UM, FOLLOWS THE SAME DESIGN ELEMENTS AS THE FRONT STRUCTURE.
AS FAR AS SOME OF THE STAFF STIPULATIONS, UM, WE AGREE TO MEET ALL STAFF STIPULATIONS AND HAVE ALREADY MADE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES AS THEY'RE PRESENT IN OUR PLANS.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, THAT IS ALL.
UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER VELASQUEZ.
SO, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT Y'ALL ARE AGREEING TO ALL OF STAFF STIPULATIONS? YES, SIR.
COMMISSIONER GROUP, ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THE RAISED HAND ICON 'CAUSE I CAN'T SEE IT, BUT I'M CLICKING ON IT.
BUT, UM, ON THAT, CAN YOU TELL US HOW YOU'VE, UH, ADDRESSED EACH OF THE STIPULATIONS AND I DON'T, UM, STAFF, HAVE YOU SEEN THIS WITH WHAT'S PRESENTED TODAY OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE STIPULATIONS FROM CONCEPTUAL REVIEW THAT YOU HAVE MET? OR DO YOU THINK YOU'VE MET? UH, WE HAVE MET, UM, SOME OF THE STIPULATIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP DURING THE CONCEPTUAL REVIEW.
UM, AS FAR AS THE REST OF THESE STIPULATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED TODAY, WE IN INTEND TO, UH, MEET ALL OF THOSE STIPULATIONS.
UM, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY MET.
UM, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE ADDITION, HOW ARE YOU, UH, WHAT'S THE OVERALL HEIGHT? DO YOU KNOW THAT? DID YOU FIGURE THAT OUT OR? UH, THE TOP RIDGE HEIGHT FOR THE ADDITION IS GONNA BE 25 FEET AND NINE INCHES.
AND, AND WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THAT THE SHORTEST? 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME OPTIONS OF LOWERING THE FLOOR.
AND I WILL DO THAT FOR DISCUSSION.
SO THE WINDOWS SPECIFICATION, NOW, THE STANDING ROOF METAL, I'M SURE YOU CAN MEET THAT.
UM, THE RAILINGS, THE WOOD COLUMNS, THOSE SHOULD BE FAIRLY EASY.
UH, THE GARAGE DOOR, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT ONE? YES.
UM, AND THEN THE SETBACKS STANDARDS, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT TOO? YES, MA'AM.
UH, WE CURRENTLY ARE MEETING ALL STANDARDS FOR STEP FOR SETBACKS AND THEN THE REUSE OF WINDOW HISTORIC WINDOWS THAT WERE REMOVED.
DO YOU HAVE THOSE ON SITE? THE WHAT? I'M SORRY? THE WINDOWS THAT WERE REMOVED.
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TO HISTORIC WINDOWS.HAVEN'T, EXCUSE ME, SIR, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE? SORRY.
THIS IS GUY JIMENEZ, UM, ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, WE HAVEN'T REMOVED ANY WINDOWS.
ALL THE WINDOWS ARE IN PLACE, BUT YEAH, THE OWNER IS HERE WITH US AS WELL, AND THEY, THEY'RE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE TO REUSE THOSE WINDOWS.
AND I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD MAYBE, UH, BEFORE YOU START, YOU AS THE ARCHITECT VISUALIZE WHICH WINDOWS THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY WILL BE, LIKE MAYBE MAP THAT OUT FOR STAFF PRIOR TO UNDERSTOOD WHICH WINDOWS YOU WILL BE REUSING AND WHERE.
UM, I GUESS STAFF, UM, YOU STILL ARE LOOKING, AND I THINK THE ONLY STIPULATION THAT'S KIND OF A BIG ONE IS THE HEIGHT OF THE REAR ADDITION STIPULATION IS KIND OF AN OPEN CORRECTION.
SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL.
A, UM, A SUCCESSFUL REVIEW FOR FINAL REVIEW WOULD, UM, AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, CALL OUT SPECIFIC WINDOWS TO BE REUSED.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THE OVERALL HEIGHT, UH, THE EXPLORING OF REDUCING THAT.
SO AS EDWARD'S SHOWING RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A TOTAL RIDGE HEIGHT OF 25, UM, AND SOME CHANGE.
AND SO POTENTIALLY DROPPING THAT HEIGHT TO MATCH THAT RIDGE THAT'S DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF IT, UH, MIGHT BE AN OPTION.
OR IF THE APPLICANT CAN, UH, SPECIFICALLY SHOW WHY THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT IS REQUIRED OR NEEDED, UH, THEN THAT WOULD STILL BE A STIPULATION, UM, ONCE IT COMES BACK FOR FINAL REVIEW.
SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT POTENTIALLY, UH, DROPPING THAT OVERALL HEIGHT JUST TO REDUCE THE MASSING JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THIS IS A ONE STORY STRUCTURE THAT'S GONNA BE TURNED INTO A TWO STORY.
OKAY, MR. RIVERA, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, SIR.
COMMISSIONER DAVIS? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER MAZUA? YES, I, I HAD A QUESTION.
UM, IN LOOKING AT THE DRAWINGS, I DIDN'T SEE ANY LANDSCAPING OR THE TREES.
AND FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS THERE'S LIKE THREE SPECIMEN TREES, TWO IN THE FRONT AND ONE IN THE BACK.
ARE THOSE ALL STAYING OR? IT LOOKS REALLY TIGHT AND, BUT I COULDN'T SEE THE PLACEMENT OF THE TREE IN THE BACK.
I'M SURE THE TREES IN FRONT ARE FINE.
WELL, THERE'S ONE IN THE FRONT THAT IS ALMOST NEXT TO THE EXISTING PORCH AND WE HAVE AN A GOING AND, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S IS REALLY DANGEROUS TO EXISTING STRUCTURE, THERE'S ONE IN THE BACK AS WELL AS NEXT TO THE, TO THE PORCH, TO EXISTING PORCH.
SO THOSE TREES MAY BE, HAVE TO BE REMOVED.
SO ARE YOU PLANNING TO REPLACE THEM? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
AND SO IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WAS A, UM, OR IT WOULD BE HELPFUL RATHER IF THERE WAS A, A, A DIAGRAM THAT SHOWED THE TREES AND THE LANDSCAPING THAT YOU INTEND TO PUT IN THERE BECAUSE IT, THE, THE, UM, THE PROPERTY LOOKS REALLY TIGHT WITH ALL THE BUILDING THAT'S GOING ON, AND I WOULD THINK THAT LANDSCAPING WOULD SOFTEN A LOT OF THAT MASSIVENESS.
COMMISSIONER TRAVIESO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ADDITION WILL HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF METAL ROOF CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING ONE.
COMMISSIONER SAVINO? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER VELAZQUEZ? NO, SIR.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, THE A DU AND THE HEIGHT OF IT.
UH, THE ELEVATIONS, UH, BOTH ON THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION AND THE UPDATED DRAWINGS SHOW, UH, THAT THE FLOOR TWO TOP OF PLATE IS AT 18 FOUR, BUT THEN THERE'S ANOTHER DIMENSION TOP OF ROOF AT 19 EIGHT.
AND, UM, TYPICALLY ADUS AND, AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND ACCESSORY BUILDINGS ARE, UH, THE SCALE OF THEM IS SUPPOSED TO, UH, BE SMALLER THAN THE MAIN HOUSE.
THIS IS SHORTER THAN THE, YOUR CURRENT DESIGN, BUT, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN TOP OF PLATE AND TOP OF ROOF DIMENSION? UM, THE DIFFERENCE IS JUST AROUND, I WANNA SAY SIX
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TO EIGHT FEET.WELL, IT'S A, LOOKING AT THIS DRAWING, THERE'S ONE FOOT FOUR BETWEEN THE TOP OF PLATE AND THE TOP OF ROOF.
AND WONDERING WHY YOU NEED THAT EXTRA ONE FOOT FOUR ON A SECOND FLOOR OF A ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
UM, UH, I NEED TO REDO THE DRAWINGS THERE.
THE ROOF SHOULD BE SITTING AT THAT 18 FOUR HEIGHT.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I CAN DO A MOTION, MR. CHAIR? YES.
COMMISSIONER GROOVE, UM, UM, MOVE TO APPROVE CONCEPTUALLY WITH ALL STAFF STIPULATIONS.
AND IF I MAY ADD SOME COMMENTS? YES, PLEASE.
AND I, AND I THINK TO THE APPLICANT, I THINK THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT JUST ARE PENDING, UM, THAT YOU ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF STIPULATIONS FOR US TO DO A FINAL APPROVAL.
AND I THINK THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE A DU AND THE HEIGHT OF THE ADDITION IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOWERED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE HAS BEEN, UH, A DRC SINCE THE LAST APPROVAL, BUT, UM, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN OPTION FOR YOU TO SEE KIND OF WHERE, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU GO BACK TO ANALYZE THE HEIGHT OF THE ADDITION, I THINK STAFF, UH, MENTIONED IT EARLIER IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY WHAT'S VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, RIGHT? AND HOW MUCH LOWER CAN YOU GO COMPARED TO WHAT'S THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
I'M, I'M REALLY WORRIED THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE BUILDING THAT A DU ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK ALSO IS BECAUSE OF THE LOT VARIANCE.
I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE WITHIN THE PERCENTAGES OF LOT COVERAGE, UM, BUT IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S A VERY TIGHT LOT AND YOU'RE GOING VERY HIGH.
AND THE REST OF THE STREET JUST FROM GOOGLE EARTH, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF THOSE TWO STORY ADUS.
UM, SO, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DOESN'T GET, YOU KNOW, FROM THE VIEW FROM THE STREET AND I THINK ON THE WINDOWS.
UM, AND STAFF CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT.
I THINK THERE'S SOME IMPORTANT, UM, ANALYSIS TO DO WITH THE WINDOWS BECAUSE I CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORIC WINDOWS THAT PROBABLY WILL BE REMOVED AND MAKE SURE WE VISUALIZE WHERE THOSE ARE GONNA BE AND WHAT TYPE OF, UH, WINDOW DESIGN WILL BE NEW WINDOWS AND MAKING SURE THAT IT, IT FALLS WITH YOUR DESIGN, UH, AT APPROVAL.
SIZES AND WIDTH AND EVERYTHING.
COMMISSIONER MOOKA? NO COMMENT.
UM, TO THE, UM, DRC QUESTION, MIGHT YOU RETURN TO A DRC BEFORE YOU GO FOR FINAL? SHOULD YOU GET CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL? I'M SORRY? MIGHT YOU RETURN TO A DRC SHOULD YOU GET CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL TODAY? YES.
YES, I THINK IT MIGHT BE WISE.
SO, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPLEX PROJECT WHERE YOU'RE DOING SO MUCH WORK, AGAIN ON A VERY TIGHT LOT, UM, IT MIGHT BE WISE TO HAVE, UM, ADDITIONAL EYES ON IT AGAIN.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO AGREE THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEIGHT, ABOUT THE ADDITION AND THE A DU.
AND AS I HAD MENTIONED, UM, IN A DRC, UH, THERE ARE REALLY SOME, SOME VERY GOOD EXAMPLES OF PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE ADDED ONTO THEIR HISTORIC HOUSES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER, UM, IN LA VACA.
UM, YOU MAY WANT TO GO LOOK AT THOSE TO SEE HOW THEY HAVE MANAGED THE VOLUMES TO GET THE PROGRAM AND STILL CREATE A COMPOSITION THAT WORKS WITH THE HOUSE AS WELL AS THE LOT.
AND MAYBE IT WON'T CREATE SUCH A BUILDING INTENSE, UM, PROJECT.
BECAUSE AGAIN, ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR A DU IN PLACE, UM, THAT'S A PRETTY TIGHT LOT.
COMMISSIONER VELAZQUEZ? NO, SIR.
UH, MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
DID WE DO A SITE VISIT ON THIS A LITTLE WHILE BACK? CAN I ASK STAFF? NO, WE'VE NEVER DONE A SITE VISIT.
UM, I, I KNOW THAT THIS REQUEST HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
UM, SO I I'M NOT SURE IF MAYBE ONE HAPPENED WHILE I WAS OUT OR SOMETHING, BUT, UM, I, WE DON'T BELIEVE SO.
AND IS IT THE SAME APPLICANT? YES.
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THINK FIRST CAME TO US IN FALL OR WINTER OF 2024, SO I THINK IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS NOW.COMMISSIONER VELASQUEZ, THERE, THERE'S A QUESTION I HAVE FOR THE APPLICANT.
IT MIGHT HELP, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A PROBLEM.
CAN, CAN STAFF GO TO THE SHEET? A FOUR ZERO, A 4.0, UM, IMMATERIAL TO, YOU KNOW, UH, THE MOTION AND ALL THAT, BUT THE, THE PEAK RIGHT THERE, IT HAS A FLAT, HOW WHY IS THAT FLAT? THE, THE LITTLE ROOF COMES UP, GOES UP, COMES BACK DOWN, THEN THE OTHER ROOF IS DOING THIS.
SO THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT YOU'RE CREATING A, A PLACE FOR THE WATER TO COME OUT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT SO, SO THEN IN THAT SPOT, THE ROOF IS FLAT AND THE WATER, MAYBE IT'S SLIGHTLY SLOPED, BUT THE WATER'S GONNA COME OUT OF THAT FLAT SITUATION THERE.
YEAH, THE, THE REASON, UM, ORIGINALLY I HAD IT WHERE THAT, THE END OF THE ROOF, RIGHT? MM-HMM
BUT, UM, FROM, BASED ON OUR PREVIOUS MIRROR WITH THE CRC, THEY RECOMMENDED US TO MOVE IT FURTHER BACK TO THE, OF THE PROPERTY.
SO I MOVE IT A ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE FEET.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE CREATING THAT AREA NOW.
UH, STEPH, CAN YOU PUT A CURSOR THERE? JUST RIGHT THERE.
SO A STAFF IN, IN CONSIDERING THAT THAT WAS A SUGGESTION FROM STAFF FOR HT RC, WOULDN'T IT BE MORE APPROPRIATE IF HE WAS ALLOWED TO, TO NOT CRICKET IT, BUT HAVE ALMOST, ALMOST AN INVISIBLE ONE IN 12 OR TWO IN 12 SLOPE COMING BACK? 'CAUSE OTHERWISE THE WATER COMES DOWN AND IT'S FLAT AND HE'S GOTTA CREATE A SITUATION THAT REALLY DOESN'T, WOULDN'T EXIST IN A NORMAL WORLD, BUT YOU WOULD NEVER DO THAT ON YOUR OWN IF IT WAS YOUR HOUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU WOULDN'T DO THAT.
YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW THE WATER'S GONNA COME DOWN AND COME OUT.
SO JUST WHEN Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT IT WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, YOU, YOU, YOU GOTTA DO, YOU, YOU'VE GOTTA COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT'S AN ACTUAL SOLUTION, EVEN IF IT'S ARTICULATING AT THE FOUR FEET OR WHATEVER IT IS.
IT'S JUST TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ARTICULATION IS THE FACT THAT IT ACTUALLY WORKS.
SO, 'CAUSE IT JUST LOOKS, IT, IT JUST, IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT IN THE DRAWING, WHICH IS KIND OF A E EITHER THEY MADE A MISTAKE OR, UH, WE, WE HAD IT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, THAT I EXPLAINED LAST TIME, BUT THEY STILL WANTED US TO PUSH IT FURTHER BACK.
AND ACTUALLY THAT'S PART OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, UHHUH
SO I, I WAS TRYING TO, YOU'LL NEED A LITTLE EXACTLY RIGHT, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO FLASH UP.
SO, OKAY, WELL, I JUST WANTED JUST TO, JUST IN CASE IT WAS JUST SAYS IT'S NOT LEFT THERE.
YOU HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? SENO? AYE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, HDRC, CASE NUMBER 20 26 1 58 10 37 DAWSON, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT A ONE STORY SINGLE FAMILY, FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON THE VACANT LOT AT 10 37 DAWSON LOCATED WITHIN THE DIGNA WITTY HILL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SAFT DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL AT THIS TIME BASED ON FINDINGS.
A THROUGH R STAFF RECOMMENDS A FOLLOWING ITEMS PRIOR TO RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
ONE, THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION SETBACK, INCLUDING A SETBACK DIAGRAM.
COMPARING THE PROPOSED SETBACK TO THOSE FOUND HISTORICALLY ON THE BLOCK IS NOTED IN FINDING C PROPOSED STRUCTURE, SETBACKS SHOULD NOT BE LESS THAN THOSE OF THE ADJACENT HISTORIC STRUCTURES.
TWO, THAT THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTIONS WITH BE REDUCED IS NOTED IN FINDING E.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT REVISE THE PROPOSED MASSING IN FORM OF THE ROOF AND PORCH IS NOTED IN FINDINGS.
H AND M AS WHAT'S PROPOSED IS NOT FOUND HISTORICALLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED PORCH MING SHOULD BE INTEGRATED INTO THE MASSING OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THREE, THAT THE APPLICANT INCORPORATE A FOUNDATION HEIGHT OF AT LEAST ONE FOOT IS NOTED IN FINDING G.
UH, STIPULATION FOUR IS IN REGARDS TO STAFF STANDARDS FOR MATERIAL SPECIFICATIONS.
UH, FIVE, THAT WINDOW PRODUCT SPECIFICATIONS BE SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
UH, WINDOW PRODUCTS SHALL COMPLY WITH THE ADOPTED STANDARDS FOR WINDOWS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THAT FENESTRATION BE ADDED TO BOTH SIDE FACADES AS NOTED IN FINDING N.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFF FINDS THAT ALL WINDOW OPENINGS
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SHOULD BE LOCATED IN PROFILE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE FOUND HISTORICALLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT SEVEN AT THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY PROFILE, BE REVISED TO FEATURE 10 FEET IN WIDTH AND BE LOCATED TO THE SIDE OF THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION.THAT THE FRONT WALKWAY BE INTRODUCED.
FRONT WALKWAY SHOULD ALIGN WITH THE FRONT DOOR AND NINE THAT A DETAILED LANDSCAPING PLAN BE SUBMITTED.
AS NOTED IN FINDING ARE, UH, THE APPLICANTS ARE, UH, BOTH IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL.
UH, MS. NICOLE SORE IS HERE IN PERSON AND CESAR SORE IS VIRTUAL.
UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE HIM A PANELIST NOW.
UH, COMMISSIONERS ALSO, WE HAVE, UH, AN UPDATED FILE, UH, FOR THIS THAT I'LL, UH, PULL UP ON THE SCREEN.
UH, AND, UH, MR. CHAIR, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, UH, IT MAY BE EASIEST FOR US TO WALK THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE AND ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO, UH, NOTE IN THEIR UPDATED DOCUMENT WHAT THEY HAVE ADDRESSED, UH, AND WHAT THEY, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE NOT ADDRESSED OR, OR WHAT THEY MAY BE UNABLE TO ADDRESS.
THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP NOW.
UM, MR. SORE, CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? SEE IF YOU CAN UNMUTE.
UM, I'M ASSUMING YOU CAN SEE MY SCREEN.
UH, SO WE HAVE THE UPDATE UPDATED DOCUMENT THAT YOU SUBMITTED.
UH, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH EACH STIPULATION ONE BY ONE, UM, AND ALLOW YOU TO COMMENT ON WHAT'S BEEN UPDATED.
UM, AFTER THAT WE CAN ENTERTAIN, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
UH, SO, UH, STIPULATION NUMBER ONE WAS THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION SETBACK, UH, TO INCLUDE A SETBACK DIAGRAM.
AND THAT SETBACK SHOULD BE, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, UH, THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE SETBACK SHOULD NOT BE LESS THAN THOSE OF THE ADJACENT HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
SO COULD YOU, UH, PROVIDE, UH, COMMENTS ON THE, UH, SETBACK DIAGRAM THAT YOU PROVIDED, AS WELL AS, UH, WHAT THE SETBACK IS IN COMPARISON TO WHAT'S ON THE BLOCK? SURE.
AND, AND ON THE, THE PRESENTATION SEAT, UH, SHEET, UH, UH, NAMED BLOCK SITE PLAN, UH, I'VE INCLUDED AN OVERLAY, UH, OF OUR PROPERTY ALONG WITH THE FLOOR PLAN.
AND, UH, UH, AFTER AF I WENT OUT TO THE JOB SITE OR OUT TO THE SITE AND, UH, AND TOOK SOME MEASUREMENTS.
UM, AND SO I THINK, UH, THE, THE, THE MAIN FACADE OF THE BUILDING, UH, IS SET BACK TO, UH, 32 FEET.
WE SHOULD BE IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE, UH, ADJACENT HOMES.
UH, AND, UH, AND IF WE SET BACK THE, THE, THE FRONT PORCH AT 25 FEET, WE SHOULD BE IN LINE WITH JUST ABOUT, I I WE SHOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE, WITH THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE.
AND, AND WE, WE MIGHT, MIGHT BE IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ADJACENT RESIDENCES NEXT TO THE NEXT TO THAT HOME.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS COULD TELL FROM THE, FROM THE, FROM THE SITE PLAN, BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF TOUGH TO TELL, BUT THE, THE, THE HOME THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY IS SET BACK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN THE, THAN THE ONES, UM, FURTHER TO THE, TO THE WEST.
NUMBER TWO, THAT THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTIONS WITH BE REDUCED IS NOTED IN FINDING E.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFFER COMMENDS, THE APPLICANT REVISED THE PROPOSED MASSING AND FORM OF THE ROOF AND PORCH.
UH, AS WHAT'S PROPOSED IS NOT FOUND HISTORICALLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED PORCH MASSING SHOULD BE INTEGRATED INTO THE MASSING OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
UH, I'VE CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, I, I WILL PULL UP THE, UH, FRONT FACADE, UH, THAT YOU'VE SUBMITTED, AND, UH, IF YOU WANT TO, UH, COMMENT ON THAT, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, STIPULATION THREE, THE APPLICANT INCORPORATES A FOUNDATION HEIGHT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT UNLESS COMMISSIONERS WANT TO.
THERE'S STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS FOR MATERIALS, UM, UH, FENESTRATION BE ADDED.
UM, SO, UH, IF YOU WANNA ADDRESS THE WIDTH, UM, I THINK THAT'S THE PRIMARY, THE PRIMARILY THE MOST OR THE LARGEST THING THAT'S REMAINING.
THE OTHER ITEMS GENERALLY SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, UH, AND WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE, UH, ALTOGETHER.
UH, YES, THE, THE WIDTH, UH, OF, OF THE BUILDING IS, IS IN, IS MOSTLY IN PART DUE TO THE, UH, TO THE SMALL PROPERTY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH, WITH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE FLOOR AREA.
UM, AND SO THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE, UH, GOING FROM SETBACK TO SETBACK ON THE SIDES.
UM, THAT'S ES ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS.
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UH, COMMISSIONERS, THERE WERE A FEW OTHER, UH, STIPULATIONS THAT STAFF INCLUDED.UH, IN THE PREVIOUS, UM, PREVIOUS DOCUMENT, THE APPLICANT HAD, UH, GROUPED, UH, WINDOWS, UH, BASICALLY ONE WINDOW UNIT.
AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE IN THIS RENDERING.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE, UH, DIVIDED THOSE WITH THE MULIAN AS WOULD BE TYPICALLY FOUND HISTORICALLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
UH, THERE WAS ALSO A COMMENT ON THE APPLICANT ADDING ADDITIONAL FENESTRATION.
UH, PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS ONLY ONE WINDOW, UM, ON THE EAST ELEVATION.
THE WEST ELEVATION WAS COMPLETELY VOID OF FENESTRATION.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS BEGUN TO ADDRESS THAT.
UH, FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, UH, GENERALLY THE EAST ELEVATION IS GETTING THERE.
UM, LARGER WINDOWS WOULD BE BETTER, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS INTRODUCED FENESTRATION.
UH, IF THE APPLICANT COULD EXPLORE ADDITIONAL FENESTRATION ON THE WEST FACADE, UH, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL.
UH, STAFF HAD PREVIOUSLY COMMENTED ON, UH, THE EXPANSE OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY.
UM, I'LL PULL UP WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS ELIMINATED, UH, MORE OR LESS THE FRONT YARD PARKING ELEMENT, UH, HAS REDUCED THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY, UH, HAS INCORPORATED A FRONT WALKWAY AND THEN HAS PROVIDED, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO WHAT'S PROPOSED, UH, FOR LANDSCAPING.
UM, I WILL NOTE, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE LARGEST THINGS IN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, TO ADDRESS THE PROPOSED WIDTH.
UM, THIS LOT IS A SUBDIVIDED LOT.
UH, THERE'S A HISTORIC STRUCTURE TO THE NORTH OF THIS LOT.
UM, THIS LOT IS NARROWER OR SHORTER THAN ALL OF THE OTHER LIGHTS ON THIS BLOCK.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE CONCRETE STOOP FROM WHAT WAS, UM, PREVIOUSLY A HISTORIC HOUSE THERE.
UH, AND IF WE LOOK AT, UM, A BETTER AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT CONCRETE STOOP WAS, UH, WELL IN FRONT OF THE OTHER STRUCTURES ON THIS, ON THIS BLOCK.
UM, THIS IS SOMEWHAT ATYPICAL, BUT IF THE COMMISSION FOUND IT TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE APPLICANT TO POTENTIALLY, UM, INCREASE, OR EXCUSE ME, DECREASE THE SETBACK IN THE FRONT, THAT MAY THEN TRANSLATE TO THE APPLICANT BEING ABLE TO, UH, HAVE A LONGER STRUCTURE THAT'S NARROWER.
UH, THAT MAY, UH, BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE MASSING IN PROFILES OF WHAT'S FOUND HISTORICALLY ON THE BLOCK.
UM, THAT'S A LOT TO DISCUSS, UH, AT TODAY'S HEARING.
UH, SO, UM, I THINK THOSE ARE MOST OF THE LARGER STIPULATIONS, UH, COMMISSIONERS, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT, WE CAN START WITH THOSE.
UH, LET'S START WITH QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THANK YOU EDWARD FOR MOVING ON THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, SO THE LOT RIGHT TO THE WEST OF IT HAS AN ATTACHED GARAGE, OR IS IT LIKE A CARPORT? IT IS AN AT, IT'S, IT'S AN ATTACHED GARAGE.
IT, THE TOTAL WIDTH OF THAT BUILDING WAS MEASURED AT 51 FEET.
UM, SO YEAH, IT IS AN ATTACHED GARAGE.
AND IT BASED ON, ON, ON ON THAT, UM, MR. HALL'S COMMENTS, IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER, UH, A SMALLER SETBACK IN THE FRONT, WOULD THAT OPEN UP? LIKE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO THEN DO MAYBE A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES DOWN AND NOT DO A FRONT, YOU KNOW, FRONT PARKING IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW, THE SETBACKS, UH, ARE, ARE FIVE FEET, UM, IN THE BACK AND ON THE SIDE, BUT IF YOU WERE, IF WE WERE TO DECREASE THE FRONT, UH, TO MAKE THE PROPERTY ITSELF NARROWER AND LEAVE MORE SETBACK MAYBE ON ONE SIDE TO HAVE A, A DRIVEWAY, A CONTINUOUS DRIVEWAY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER? WELL, WE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS INTERNALLY, UH, ME AND MY FAMILY, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE BEST OPTION.
SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE NOT BE AN OPTION FOR YOU? WE DO NOT WANT THAT OPTION, NO.
UM, AND, AND SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH ALL THE STIPULATIONS AND, AND I KNOW YOU'VE DONE SOME EDITS, SO IF YOU ARE, YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND YOU KNOW, PER EDWARD'S COMMENTS, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF ADJUSTMENTS, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE WINDOW SIZES AND, AND YOU'RE WILLING TO KEEP WORKING ON THAT.
AND I, I'VE MADE SOME, SOME CHANGES ON THE, ON THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS TO REFLECT, UH, TO REFLECT, UH, OHP COMMENTS.
UM, IF THERE ARE FURTHER CHANGES, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S FINE.
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WE'RE ALWAYS, UH, COGNIZANT OF BUDGET WHEN WE'RE, UH, DEVELOPING THESE LITTLE PROPERTIES, BUT, UM, YES, WE, WE WILL, WE'LL TAKE, WE'LL TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION.I DON'T HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GUEVARA, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS, SIR.
UM, IS, IS THAT SLAB THAT EXISTS NOW? IS THAT GONNA BE DEMOED AND A NEWS SLAB POURED FOR THE FRONT PORCH? UM, I'LL, UH, YES SIR.
COMMISSIONER SAVINO? YES, MR. CHAIR.
I WANNA SAY THAT I AGREE WITH STAFF ON ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS, ALL THE FINDINGS, AS WELL AS THE INFORMAL SUGGESTION OF, UM, ALTERING OR WORKING MORE CREATIVELY WITH THE SETBACKS.
SO, UM, IN LIEU OF PROBABLY TWO DOZEN QUESTIONS I HAVE REGARDING ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO A DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WHERE WE COULD, UM, LOOK AT SOME OF THE, UH, ELEMENTS THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN ADDRESSED, THAT ARE STIPULATED, BUT POSSIBLY LOOK AT SOME OTHER, UM, SMALL TWEAKS IN DESIGN OPTIONS? AS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? NO.
AND I WILL ANSWER ON HIS BEHALF.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, I'M SORRY.
YES, WE ALREADY EXPECTED THAT, SO YEAH.
COMMISSIONER VELAZQUEZ? UM, NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, BUT I, UH, I WANNA MAKE A MOTION RESPECTFUL OF THE PREVIOUS REQUEST RIGHT HERE.
SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STAFF STIPULATIONS AND ADD THAT THERE'S AN EXPECTATION OF A, OF A DESIGN REVIEW MEETING, UM, AS WELL.
SECOND, I COULD STAFF CLARIFY IF THAT'S A MOTION FOR, UH, CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL OR IF THAT'S A MOTION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
WELL, I'D RATHER IT BE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WITH A WORK THROUGH OF, THROUGH THE DRC.
BUT IF A CERTIFICATE OF A, IF, UM, OF A CONCEPTUAL IS, IS, UH, EASIER FOR THE PROCESS THAN CONCEPTUAL, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, CONCEPTUAL MAY BE BEST.
UM, THAT WAY THAT WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO WORK THROUGH WITH THE DRC, COME TO A SOLUTION AND THEN COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL CON CONFIDENT IN.
UM, IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN, UH, AT TIMES, UH, STAFF AND THE APPLICANT CAN'T FIND A SOLUTION THAT ADDRESSES A STIPULATION AND THEN IT WINDS UP COMING BACK HERE ANYWAYS.
UM, MR. MR. CHAIR, WHAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I WANT TO JUST, UH, MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IS COMMUNICATED WHEN THE WINDOWS CHANGED FROM A FARMHOUSE KIND OF WINDOW BUILDING.
THERE'S WINDOWS THAT APPEAR IN THE DRAWING HERE THAT THEY, THAT THEY, BECAUSE THEY'RE WINDOWS, THEY ARE ACCEPTABLE, BUT ONCE THE WINDOWS BECOME THESE RECTANGULAR WINDOWS, EVEN GANGED TOGETHER, THAT MAKES THE SQUARE WINDOW REALLY SEEM OUTTA PLACE.
SO IT, IT'S LIKE A REALLY BIG COMPROMISE THAT I THINK THAT YOU MADE FROM STYLISTICALLY ONE KIND OF HOUSE TO ANOTHER KIND OF HOUSE THAT IS REALLY, UM, GONNA ASK YOU TO MAKE ALL THE WINDOWS WITHIN THE SAME PROPORTION SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS ONCE ONE THING AND IT BECAME SOMETHING ELSE LATER.
THAT MIGHT EVEN INCLUDE THE SQUARE WINDOW THAT'S AT THE TOP AND THE TOP GABLE.
MAYBE THAT BECOMES A SMALL RECTANGLE, BUT ESPECIALLY THE SQUARE WINDOW THAT'S IN FRONT THAT IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT ANYMORE BECAUSE WAS EDITED AND NOW IT'S TWO.
YEAH, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REALLY WORK.
WELL, EXCUSE ME, IF YOU, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, WOULD YOU COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE? SORRY, I AM NICOLE GONZALEZ.
YEAH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON OUR CALL EARLIER THIS WEEK.
AND CESAR DID MAKE THE CHANGE TO MAKE IT, UH, LOOK LIKE TWO RECTANGLE, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS OUT IN A, IN A OPEN FIELD, IT WOULD LOOK WONDERFUL WITH THOSE SQUARE WINDOWS, BUT I THINK IN THE INNER CITY THAT THOSE ARE SOME REAL, UM, UH, RECOGNIZABLE PATTERNS THAT THEY MAKE THE HOUSE LOOK WELL.
THE, THE OTHER THING IS WITH RESPECT TO STAFF AND, AND THE A DRC, THEY HAVE TO BE VERY, UM, LENIENT, I THINK WITH THE SIZE OF THIS LOT.
YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER LOTS, THE OTHER LOTS ARE THESE
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FULL LOTS, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEONE CUT THIS LOT IN HALF.AND I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT, THAT PUSHING IT FURTHER BACK WILL LIMIT THE BACK EXPERIENCE.
BUT HOPEFULLY STAFF CAN LOOK AT AND THE, AND THAT THE COMMISSION WILL LOOK AT THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT OF IT IS WAY IN FRONT.
SO IT MAY BE THAT THEY HAVE A ACCESSORY DWELLING BECAUSE THEIR HOUSE, UH, UM, IS FACING THE OTHER STREET, WHICH I THINK GIVES THAT PROPERTY THE POWER TO BE FURTHER FRONT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOES FOR YOUR DRIVEWAY.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A DRIVEWAY SPACE, BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD MAXIMIZE THAT FRONT USAGE BECAUSE IT'S NOT BLOCKING ANYTHING.
I THINK THE, THE RULE WE WERE TAUGHT ABOUT, UM, UH, THE PATTERN OF THE FRONT WAS SO THAT A NEIGHBOR CAN WALK OUT ON THE PORCH AND LOOK, AND THEY'RE RIGHT.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK STRAIGHT DOWN THE STREET AND SEE EVERYTHING ALL THE WAY DOWN.
WELL, THIS, THEM BEING RIGHT NEXT TO THAT GARAGE ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT, IT'S, IT, IT GIVES A, AN EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE AND HOPEFULLY WITHIN REASON THAT THEY'RE NOT PUSHED ANY FAR BACK BECAUSE IT, IT'D BE SUCH A WASTE TO HAVE A HOUSE AND HAVE 15 FEET IN THE BACK.
IT'S JUST, UH, YEAH, I THINK BASED ON WHAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED, STAFF GENERALLY FINDS WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW TO BE.
UM, WHAT STAFF IS SAYING IS IT WOULD BE THE COMMISSION'S, UH, DIRECTION TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO DECREASE THAT SETBACK, UH, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE GUIDELINES AND STAFF IS GONNA BE RECOMMENDING WHAT THE GUIDELINES RECOMMEND.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION, EDWARD.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M ALSO MENTIONING THAT THE, THE DRC THAT THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT AS WELL.
UH, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND CLARIFICATION.
THAT'S FOR CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL? YES, SIR.
UM, UH, THAT 10, THE 10 FOOT FRONT SETBACK, 10 FOOT BACK SETBACK IS A ZONING ISSUE, CORRECT? IT'S A ZONING DESIGNATION.
SO DEPENDING ON THE FLEXIBILITY OF POTENTIAL FUTURE DESIGN, UM, THIS MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO A BOA FOR A VARIANCE.
UM, AS WHAT'S PROPOSED NOW, IT'S FINE.
UM, IF IT DOES ENCROACH ON THAT 10 FOOT SETBACK, THEN YES, A VARIANCE WOULD LIKELY BE REQUIRED.
COMMENTS? UH, COMMISSIONER GRUBE, I HAVE NO COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER GUEVARA? NO COMMENTS RIGHT NOW, SIR.
COMMISSIONER MAZUA? NO COMMENT.
UH, MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? SAVINO? AYE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, MEETING WITH YOU AT A DRC AND FOR THE COMMISSION AND THE APPLICANT THAT DRC WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR NEXT TUESDAY.
UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT HDRC, CASE NUMBER 20 26 1 6 3 73 0 3 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL TO, UH, CONSTRUCT 21 2 STORY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ON THE VACANT LOT AT 73 0 3 OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE RIVER IMPROVEMENT OVERLAY DISTRICT FIVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BASED ON FINDINGS A THROUGH Q WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS.
ONE THAT A SIDEWALK SHOULD ALSO BE INSTALLED PARALLEL TO OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD TO CONNECT THE EXISTING SIDEWALK TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK.
IS NOTED IN FINDING D TWO THAT THE PROPOSED CURB CUTTED OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD NOT EXCEED 25 FEET IN WIDTH IS NOTED IN FINDING E THREE.
THAT A MORE DETAILED LANDSCAPING, THAT MORE DETAILED LANDSCAPING INFORMATION BE SUBMITTED TO OHP STAFF FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL IS NOTED IN FINDING F FOUR THAT EACH STRUCTURE'S MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT BE SCREENED FROM VIEW FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY CONSISTENT WITH THE UDC RIO STANDARDS.
FIVE THAT THE EASTERN MOST LOTS, OR EXCUSE ME, STRUCTURES LOTS 22, 42 AND 2243.
FEATURE OF PRIMARY ORIENTATION TOWARDS OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD IS NOTED IN FINDING H STIPULATION SIX IS IN REGARDS TO STAFF STANDARDS FOR MATERIAL SPECIFICATIONS.
SEVEN, THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMIT WINDOW PRODUCT SPECIFICATIONS AND THAT WINDOWS BE RECESSED AT LEAST TWO INCHES WITHIN WALL PLAINS AND FEATURE A NON-MANUFACTURER WHITE COLOR.
UH, STIPULATION EIGHT THAT VARIATIONS IN DESIGN BE INCORPORATED TO PREVENT 21 IDENTICAL STRUCTURES.
AS NOTED IN FINDING M CHANGES IN DESIGN ELEMENTS
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SHOULD, COULD INCLUDE VARYING ROOF FORMS, SIDING PROFILES, PAINT COLORS, AND FENESTRATION PATTERNS.UH, NINE THAT A SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL LIGHTING PLAN BE SUBMITTED TO OHP FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AND STIPULATION.
10, THE PROJECT SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL AND LOCAL LAWS, RULES AND REGULATIONS REGARDING ARCHEOLOGY, UH, THE APPLICANT'S HERE IN PERSON.
UH, AND THEN I ALSO HAVE, UH, ONE UPDATED, UH, DOCUMENT.
UH, SO I'LL LET THE APPLICANT INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND RESPOND TO STAFF STIPULATIONS.
HI, MY NAME IS TYLER SLINKY, DEVELOPER OF THIS PROJECT.
SO WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVEN'T STARTED BUILDING YET.
WE'RE PULL CURRENTLY PULLING PERMITS, BUT JUST WANTED TO KIND OF TOUCH BASE ON ALL THE NOTES THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED.
SO THE SIDEWALK OFF OLD CORPUS, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
UM, THE PROPOSED CURB CUT SO THAT WE HAVE OUR ACTUAL ROAD OFF OF OLD CORPUS IS A LITTLE WIDER THAN 25 FEET.
THAT'S JUST BASED ON WHAT THE CITY REQUIRED US, BUT ALL OF OUR ACTUAL CURB CUTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR DRIVEWAYS WILL BE LESS THAN 25 FEET.
SO, UH, WE SUBMITTED EARLIER UPDATED LANDSCAPE PLAN.
SO WE HAVE SOD FRONT AND BACKYARDS, TWO TREES PER LOT.
NUMBER FOUR, WE HAVE A PRIVACY FENCE.
SO ALL THE HVAC EQUIPMENT WILL BE SCREENED FROM VIEW NUMBER FIVE.
SO THE TWO DUPLEXES THAT WILL FACE OLD CORPUS, THAT FRONT, THAT WILL HAVE A SIDE ENTRY DOOR.
SO WE CAN DO A SPECIAL TRIM PATTERN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO JUST KIND OF DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIATE THAT FROM THE REST OF THE DUPLEXES THERE.
SO IT'LL BE EASILY SEEN FROM OLD, OLD CORPUS.
THEN NUMBER SIX, THAT ONE WE'RE GOOD WITH.
WE CAN USE THE, THE SMOOTH SIDING.
WE HAVE STEEL GARAGE DOORS, NOT VINYL, SO SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES THERE.
AND THEN NUMBER SEVEN, THE, WE ARE ADDING TRIM AROUND ALL OF OUR WINDOWS, SO WE'LL HAVE THE TWO INCH DEPTH THERE, SO WE SHOULD COVER THAT.
NUMBER EIGHT, WE WILL ALTERNATE COLOR PATTERNS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY TWO DUPLEXES NEXT TO EACH OTHER THAT WILL LOOK THE EXACT SAME.
WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT COLORED PAINT FOR EVERY SINGLE DUPLEX ALTERNATING, SO WE'LL HAVE BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE DIFFERENT COLOR COMBINATIONS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
NUMBER NINE, THE ONLY LIGHTING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IS JUST FROM OUR SCONCES OFF OF THE DUPLEX.
WE AREN'T GONNA HAVE ACTUALLY ANY LANDSCAPE LIGHTING, BUT THEY'LL JUST ALL COME FROM THE SCONCES FRONT AND BACKYARD.
AND THEN 10 THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED.
SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT ALL OF OUR PERMITS AND EVERYTHING FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO DO THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE'VE COVERED THAT ASPECT THERE.
THAT SHOULD BE ALL 10 ITEMS THERE.
SO MOST OF THOSE SHOULD BE PRETTY GOOD TO GO AS FAR AS WHERE WE WE STAND.
UH, WE'LL START WITH QUESTION COMMISSIONER SAVINO.
UH, YEAH, I'M LOOKING FOR A TEAR SHEET CUT SHEET FOR WINDOWS.
IS THERE ONE IN THE PACKAGE, THE ACTUAL WINDOW THAT WE'RE USING? YEAH, WE DIDN'T SUBMIT THAT.
UM, IT'S JUST A NORMAL VINYL WINDOW, BUT IT IS NOT GONNA BE THE MANUFACTURER'S WHITE COLOR.
DOES IT HAVE A, A NAILING FIN? IS THAT HOW THAT GETS PUT IN? I BELIEVE SO, YES.
UM, BECAUSE THAT WILL AFFECT WHERE YOUR WINDOW SITS IN THE WALL IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT TWO INCH SETBACK, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE ADDING THE TRIMMER ON THE WINDOWS TO ACHIEVE THE SETBACK.
HOW THICK IS YOUR TRIM THEN? IT'S ABOUT HALF AN INCH AND THEN WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT THE, WITH THE SIDING AND EVERYTHING, SO WE SHOULD COVER ABOUT AN INCH AND A HALF TO TWO INCHES RIGHT THERE.
AND LET'S SEE, I'LL PASS RIGHT NOW.
I MAY HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IN A BIT.
IT, IT'S A LITTLE COMPLEX TO FIGURE WHAT HD C'S PURVIEW IS BECAUSE WHEN IT, WHEN I LOOK AT IT FROM THE CONTEXT OF, UM, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT SEEM TO BE THE REQUIREMENT, UM, IT IT, IT'S HARD TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCEPTABLE SETBACKS FACADE.
UH, I MEAN IT'S LIKE ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF DEVELOPMENT IS THAT, WELL, NOT QUITE.
SO, UM, TYPICALLY WHEN WE SEE SINGLE FAMILY, I KNOW THIS IS MULTI-FAMILY, BUT A STRUCTURE THAT'S MASKED
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LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, IT'S IN THE CONTEXT OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT WHERE WE'RE REVIEWING IT AGAINST THE HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES.UH, THIS IS ONLY IN THE RIVER IMPROVEMENT OVERLAY WHERE TYPICALLY WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT HOW A DEVELOPMENT'S CONNECTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT'S THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE, AND VERY BROAD ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND NOT MORE DETAILED RECOMMENDATIONS OR GUIDELINES LIKE THE HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES WOULD RECOMMEND.
SO, UM, MORE OR LESS THE FINDINGS THAT THAT WE HAVE ARE, UH, WHAT WE WOULD REVIEW FOR, UH, A LARGE MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE IN THE RIVER IMPROVEMENT OVERLAY, UH, WHAT STAFF HAS FOUND TO BE MOST APPLICABLE.
UM, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE EASTERN MOST STRUCTURES FRONT OLD CORPUS CHRISTI, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS GONNA RECOMMEND.
UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS THAT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD SAY FIND A TRADITIONAL OR, OR FIND WHAT'S, UH, VERNACULAR AND, AND IMPLEMENT THAT.
SO DON'T THINK SO MUCH IN THE, THE SENSE OF THE HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES.
THINK OF UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE RIO STANDARDS.
SO, AND THIS MIGHT BE JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CLARITY HERE.
SO THE UDC OR THE OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS GONNA HAVE LOOKED AT IT ALMOST FOR THE EXACT SAME THINGS, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT QUITE, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS GONNA LOOK AT EVERYTHING FROM A BUILDING CODE AND A UDC STANDPOINT AS FAR AS STORM WATER, TRAFFIC, FIRE, UH, SETBACK, BUILDING CODE SETBACKS, ZONING SETBACKS.
UM, THESE STANDARDS ARE THE GENERALLY THE SAME STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD BE REVIEWING OFF OF BROADWAY.
UH, THE SAME STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD BE REVIEWING SOMEWHERE IN RIVER NORTH, UH, MISSION REACH OR THE MUSEUM REACH, SAME STANDARDS.
IT'S JUST THAT THIS IS AN, AN, I GUESS AN ODDLY PLACED LIGHT THAT HAPPENS TO FALL WITHIN THE RIVER IMPROVEMENT OVERLAY.
NOW JUST ONE OTHER THING BECAUSE THE, THE SETUP, THE, THE, THE LOT DIVISIONS, ALL OF THAT IS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF ONE OF US WAS TO SAY, UH, THE ENTRIES ARE NOT RIGHT OR THE, UM, THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDINGS ARE TOO CONSISTENT, THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE LAYOUT OF THIS SUBDIVISION.
AND, AND STAFF'S NOT, UH, PROVIDING A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION ON HOW THE LOTS HAVE BEEN INDIVIDUALLY DIVIDED, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WITHIN THE UDC THAT WOULD SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T DIVIDE THE LOTS LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN STAFF'S COMMENTS ARE SPECIFICALLY ON HOW THE COMMON USE DRIVE INTERACTS WITH OLD CORPUS CHRISTI, HOW THE SIDEWALKS INTERACT WITH OLD CORPUS CHRISTI, HOW THE EASTERNMOST STRUCTURES INTERACT WITH CORPUS CHRISTI.
SO THE LAYOUT OF WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IS FINE, GENERALLY.
ONE MORE QUESTION, WHEN LOOKING AT WHAT HAS BEING PROPOSED, A, IS IT PROPER, WHICH IS ODD, IS IT PROPER TO SAY THAT THE PREVAILING PATTERN OF THE COMMUNITY THERE IS SET BY THOSE OTHER HOUSES THAT USE THOSE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT EXIST? UM, SO I WOULD ACTUALLY, LET ME GO TO, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT AN AREA, YOU SEE THE OTHER, THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE THERE THAT SEEM THAT THEY WERE DEVELOPED WITHOUT ANY STANDARDS.
WELL, WHAT'S WHAT'S UNIQUE OR INTERESTING IS THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD DIRECT AN APPLICANT TO DEVELOP, TO DEVELOP A SITE PLAN THAT HAS MAYBE A CAMPUS LIKE SETTING THAT CREATES COURTYARDS.
UH, SO, UH, WHAT'S TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH THERE MAY BE A LITTLE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE UDC THAN WHAT'S PROPOSED TODAY.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GRU QUESTIONS? UH, YES, MR. CHAIR.
SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE STIPULATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT PRESENTED.
UM, I'M A LITTLE WORRIED THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING HERE.
SO, UH, ON THE NUMBER TWO, THE CURB CUT, UH, OR MAYBE STAFF CAN CLARIFY.
IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT THE CITY APPROVED.
WHAT IS THE CURRENT CURB CUT RIGHT NOW IN YOUR PLAN? IS IT 25 FEET OR MORE? SO THE CITY HAD US DO THE CURB CUT OFF OF OLD CORPUS WIDER, BUT ALL OF OUR ACTUAL CURB CUTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR DRIVEWAYS.
WHAT IS WIDER? WHAT, HOW WIDE IS THAT CURB? CUT? 30.
AND WHEN YOU SAY THE CITY, WHAT CITY? OUR ROAD IS 34 FEET.
OUR ROAD IS 34 FEET WIDE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
OKAY, I KNOW, BUT THIS IS, UH, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE RIO DISTRICT.
SO THEN YOU ARE THESE STORY GUIDELINES.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE FOR YOU? THAT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE, HONESTLY.
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FLOW IN AND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT.SO, WELL, I MEAN, YOU SEE IT IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, IN OTHER HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE THIS MULTIFAMILY CONCEPT.
SO IS IT, THERE'S JUST ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT IN THE BACK.
YOU HAVE LIKE A CURB, LIKE A CUT, LIKE A CORRECT, YES.
IT'S ZOOMED IN, SO I CAN'T SEE IT.
UM, SO YOU WOULD JUST GO IN AND THEN DO A TURN AND COME BACK IF YOU NEEDED TO GO OUT? HI, UH, MY NAME'S CLAY SLINKY.
SO, BUT UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT'S ALREADY ACTUALLY COMPLETE, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, SO THE STREET'S ALREADY BEEN IN INSTALLED.
EVERYTHING'S BEEN APPROVED BY, BY COSA PER THEIR STANDARD.
SO IT'S ALREADY A COMPLETE STREETS DEVELOPMENT ALREADY SET.
SO I WASN'T SURE IF WE MADE THAT CLEAR.
CAN YOU CLARIFY THIS, MA'AM? STAFF CAN CLARIFY WHAT, HOW DOES THIS WORK NOW? I, I MEAN THIS CAME TO US BECAUSE THE PERMIT'S ON HOLD, THE BUILDING PERMIT.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S BEEN A SITE WORK PERMIT THAT'S BEEN ISSUED, UM, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE IT HASN'T BEEN DONE WITH'S REVIEW.
UH, SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL NEED TO SPEAK WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ABOUT, UM, TO THE POINT OF THE CURB CUT.
IT COULD ALSO BE THE CLAR CLASSIFICATION OF, UH, WHAT THIS IS USED FOR.
IF THIS IS A, AN ACTUAL STREET, UM, THAT'S REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AS A STREET, UH, THEN THAT 32 OR 35 FEET IS FINE.
IF THIS IS IN ALL INTENSE, A DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE OR A CURB CUT, UH, THAT'S USED AS A PRIVATE DRIVE, LIKE WHAT WE WOULD SEE WITHIN A CITY BLOCK, UH, THEN IT WOULD NEED TO BE REDUCED TO 25 FEET.
UM, STAFF CAN WORK WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ON DETERMINING HOW THEY'VE CLASSIFIED THIS.
UH, AND IF IT NEEDS, IF IT'S, IF, IF IT'S A STREET THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, MAINTAINED LIKE A CITY STREET WOULD THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE UDC, WE WOULDN'T SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, A STREET OFF OF BROADWAY COULD ONLY BE 25 FEET IN WIDTH, IF THAT HELPS CLARIFY.
I WANNA ALL THIS AND THEN NEXT TIME FOR STAFF, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK OUT PRIOR TO THE APPLICANT COMING IN HERE SINCE IT'S, IF IT IS A STRAIGHT, THEN THERE'S NOT EVEN A STIPULATION THAT SHOULD EXIST HERE AND IT KIND OF CHANGES A LOT OF THE GUIDELINES.
AND THEN I THINK ON THE STIPULATION NUMBER EIGHT, UH, THIS IS ALSO TO THE APPLICANT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING IT A STAFF IS NOT ASKING FOR CHANGE IN DESIGN ELEMENTS AS IN ROOF OR SIDING OR PAINT OR FENESTRATION.
I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE CHANGES MORE THAN JUST PAINT COLORS AND I THINK THEY GOT A VALID POINT THERE.
SO JUST, UM, IF STAFF FEELS CONFIDENT THEY CAN WORK WITH, WITH THE APPLICANT ON THIS.
I THINK IT'S BEYOND, UM, IT'S BEYOND JUST PAINT COLORS.
UM, AND THEN ON STIPULATION NUMBER FIVE, UM, THE PRIMARY ROTATION, WE ARE IN HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO I WASN'T SURE EITHER TOO, IF THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT YOUR PROPERTIES HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR OF THIS ROLE OF THE HISTORIC, UM, YOU KNOW, OVERVIEW OF PURVIEW OVER THIS PROPERTY.
SO I THINK THIS STIPULATION SHOULD ALSO STAY, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS SHOULD BE A FINAL OR IF STAFF FEELS CONFIDENT THAT THIS CAN BE A FINAL AND THEY CAN WORK BY THE APPLICANT, THEN I'M FINE WITH THAT.
COMMISSIONER GUEVARA QUESTIONS? NOPE, NO QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, SIR.
COMMISSIONER DAVIS? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER MAZUA? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER VESO? NO QUESTION.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO, UM, ON YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN, IF YOU PULL THAT UP, EDWARD, THE FRONT DOORS TO THESE HOUSES ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UH, I DON'T SEE SIDEWALKS BACK TO THEM ON THE SIDE.
YEAH, THERE SHOULD BE SIDEWALKS THERE.
SO THAT WAS LEFT OUT OF THE PLAN, SO WE NEED TO UPDATE THAT.
SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR SURE.
AND, UH, LOOKING AT, UH, STIPULATION EIGHT, WHICH IS VARIATIONS IN DESIGN, UM, HAVE Y'ALL LOOKED AT DIFFERENT ROOF FORMS SO THAT THEY DON'T ALL HAVE THE SAME ROOF SHAPE AND GABLE AND HIPS AND ALL THAT? UH, OR HAVE YOU LOOKED AT, UH, A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FLOOR PLAN FOR SOME OF THE HOUSES SO THAT THE GARAGES ARE NOT GANGED TOGETHER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE, BUT THEY'RE SPLIT, UH,
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AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE FRONT PORCH FACING THE MAIN DRIVE.HAVE YOU STUDIED ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE HAVE BUILT SOME LIKE THAT IN THE PAST.
IDEALLY, WE LIKE TO KEEP IT PRETTY CONSISTENT IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT USUALLY IS WHAT WORKS BEST FOR US.
SO WE DEFINITELY CAN CHANGE MAYBE SOME OF THE FRONT, LIKE, UH, BOARD AND BATTEN TO SIDING AND SWITCH THINGS AROUND LIKE THAT.
BUT IDEALLY WE LIKE TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT BECAUSE WE DO RENT OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN TRY TO RUN IT PRETTY SIMILAR TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH HAS A LOT OF CONSISTENCIES AS WELL.
SO WE LIKE TO TRY TO DO THE SAME.
SO THESE ARE BEING BUILT FOR RENTALS? CORRECT.
UM, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO A DRC TO, UH, SPEND SOME MORE TIME LOOKING AT WHAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE FOR VARIATIONS? I CAN, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD, HONESTLY, AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, IF WE CAN JUST MOVE, GET APPROVAL AND MOVE ON AND, UM, WORK WITH STAFF, THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
IF WE NEED TO COME BACK AND, AND MEET AGAIN, I MEAN, WE WILL, BUT IDEALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AND CAN WORK WITH STAFF WITH WHATEVER THEY NEED FROM US.
YOU, MR. CHAIR, HAVE YOU READY TO MAKE A MOTION? YES, MR. CHAIR? UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW THEIR COMMENT A QUESTION? UM, OR ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? YEAH, I'LL WAIT TILL AFTER THE MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE THE CONS CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL, PROVIDE CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL WITH ALL STAFF STIPULATIONS AND A DRC AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.
WOULD LIKE TO, YEAH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF VERY IMPORTANT THINGS, IMPORTANT ASPECTS TO THIS PROJECT.
YES, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT IT GETS MOVED FORWARD.
IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE MORE HOUSING AND, UM, IN, IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE IN A RIO, YOU'RE IN A VERY SENSITIVE AREA, WHICH WE ALL CARE ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO, UM, TAKE SOME TIME AND ADJUST SOME THINGS HERE AND THERE AND, AND HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH YOU GUYS.
COMMISSIONER VELAZQUEZ, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING VERY DIRECT, UH, UM, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I, I'M NOT, UH, COMFORTABLE WITH THE HIDDEN DOORS, THE FRONT DOOR.
IT JUST, IT'S IN DISTRICT THREE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, FOR FOR THE SAKE OF EXPEDIENCY, THAT'S NOT AN EXCUSE FOR A DESIGN THAT SETS A STANDARD THAT BY ALL EVEN ACADEMIC, UH, STANDARDS IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION.
THAT IF YOU JUST BOX OUT THE TWO, THE DUPLEX, ONE DUPLEX AND BOX THE TWO UNITS OUT, THERE'S CLEARLY AT LEAST THREE OTHER SOLUTIONS WHERE THE DOOR'S IN THE FRONT, EVEN IF THE GARAGE DOOR'S IN THE FRONT, AND EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE STOOP AND YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE RESTROOM, THE HALF BATH, THE HALF BATH COULD BE THE STOOP.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR THOSE FRONT DOORS NOT TO BE IN THE FRONT.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH WITH BUILDING IT OR LIVING IN IT.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE STANDARD EXPECTATION IN A COMMUNITY THAT THE FRONT DOOR IS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT DOOR WHEN YOU'RE PASSING BY FOR ALL KINDS OF REASONS, ESPECIALLY SAFETY, SAFETY REASONS.
UH, SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S A, A, A, A PRETTY HEFTY LIFT AND THERE'S 10 OF US, IT'S, I'M JUST ONE COMMISSIONER, BUT FOR THE STANDARD FOR DISTRICT THREE, AT LEAST THE STANDARD IN THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR THERE NOT TO HAVE BEEN A MORE SOPHISTICATED DESIGN WITH THE FRONT DOOR AND THE FRONT.
EVEN WITH THE GARAGE DOOR STAIN WHERE IT'S AT, THAT CREATES A BIT OF A PROBLEM.
BUT IT, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS, IT, IT JUST, IT JUST IS LIKE NOT ACCEPTABLE.
COULD I, UH, SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE.
THE REASON WE LIKE THIS, UH, THIS PLAN WITH THE SIDE DOOR ENTRY, WE, WE, THIS IS NOT OUR FIRST RODEO.
WE DO A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS AROUND SAN ANTONIO AND TEXAS.
UM, ONE DEVELOPMENT, FOR INSTANCE, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE HAD 34 UNITS AND WE, WE DID THIS KIND OF AS A, AS A EXAM, AS A TEST WE HAD OF THE DUPLEX, ONE UNIT HAD A SIDE ENTRY, OTHER UNIT HAD A FRONT DOOR ENTRY, JUST LIKE MR. VELASQUEZ IS, IS SAYING, OF THOSE 34 UNITS, WE LITERALLY
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RENTED OUT ALL 17 OF THE SIDE ENTRY DOOR FIRST BEFORE ANY WITH THE FRONT DOOR EVEN RENTED OUT.AND SO THAT'S ONE REASON WE REALLY LIKE THIS FLOOR PLAN.
THE, THE TENANTS LIKE THIS FLOOR PLAN, THEY LIKE THE, THE FEEL THAT IT'S MORE OF A PRIVATE ENTRY.
UM, AND THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE DO THIS FLOOR PLAN.
AND I DON'T, I KNOW DISTRICT THREE, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING WHERE HAVING A SIDE ENTRY DOOR OR A FRONT DOOR IS NOT A SAFETY CONCERN.
UM, IN OUR OPINION, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT, NOT CONCERNED ONE BIT ABOUT SAFETY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I I JUST, LEMME JUST RESPONDED.
I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR HONESTY.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW TOO, I'VE GOT 45 YEARS IN THE DESIGN INDUSTRY MM-HMM
UM, YOU HAVE, UH, UH, JUST A BOX.
THAT BOX CAN GO ANYWHERE YOU WANT IT TO GO.
YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES AND THE CHALLENGES THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY PEOPLE WANT, UH, THAT KIND OF PRIVACY.
BUT IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE CASE THAT WE HAD BEFORE, NONE OF THEM, NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY ARE AFFORDED THAT AMENITY TO HAVE ULTIMATE PRIVACY.
THEY ALL HAVE TO HAVE A FRONT DOOR.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHY, FOR WHATEVER CRAZY REASONS EVERYBODY JUST SAID.
AT SOME POINT A COMMUNITY WILL HAVE A FRONT DOOR AND THEN TO EXTEND IT, THEY'LL HAVE A PORCH AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF, AND IT CAN GET SILLY, BUT WHERE THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO INDICATION OF WHERE THAT FRONT IS, I WOULD JUST SAY LIKE, AGAIN, I'M JUST ONE COMMISSIONER, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT I, I, I DON'T THINK I WOULD SUPPORT A PLAN THAT HAS ALL THE DOORS ON THE SIDE LIKE THAT.
AND, AND I THINK IT'S TOO SIMPLE OF A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED.
AND IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE OPTION TO THE SIDE, THEN ALL, ALL YOUR RENTERS WOULD HAVE TO RENT A FRONT DOOR.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT IT IS.
YOU WOULDN'T GIVE 'EM AN OPTION.
AND AGAIN, JUST LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LOOKED AT BEFORE, NONE OF THE PEOPLE THERE HAVE AN OPTION TO HAVE A SIDE DOOR.
SO IT'S JUST, IT JUST CREATES A PATTERN THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A POSITIVE PATTERN.
UM, COMMISSIONER SAVINA, DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY? UH, YES.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MY COLLEAGUE, WOULD YOU BE SUPPORTIVE OF AN ADDITIONAL STIPULATION TO THAT MOTION THAT ADDRESSES FRONT ENTRY SEQUENCE SPECIFICALLY? YEAH, I, I WOULD, I WOULD.
WHAT IS THE PROPER WAY TO ADD A STIPULATION? IS IT MODIFICATION OR IS IT AN AMENDMENT? OR YOU CAN CLARIFY YOUR MOTION IF YOU INTENDED TO HAVE THAT AS PART OF A STIPULATION.
IF NOT, WE CAN HAVE AN ALTERNATE MOTION, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, AN AMENDED MOTION TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT HAS BEEN SECOND.
THEN I, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST CLARIFY THAT IT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, ADDRESSING THE FRONT ENTRY SEQUENCE.
YEAH, IF WE CAN, UM, UM, TO THE APPLICANT.
I WANTED, I HAD LIKE ONE QUESTION STAFF TOO IS, 'CAUSE THE APPLICANT SAID IT HAD, AND I, AND I AGREE WITH THE MOTION AS IT STANDS.
UM, I THINK THE A THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY HAS APPROVED AND, AND THIS HISTORIC PURVIEW.
UM, I'M, I'M OKAY DISCUSSING THE, THE FRONT DOOR.
I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE THE PLACE TO BE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING DESIGN ELEMENTS.
THAT'S WHY I AGREE WITH THE DRC AND I ENCOURAGE COMMISSIONER VELASQUEZ TO SHOW UP AT THE DRC TO REALLY COME UP WITH A, YOU KNOW, THESE SPECIFICALLY ALSO BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY'S IN THE DISTRICT, THAT'S IMPORTANT OR YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UM, THE ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE.
LIKE IT SAYS THE APPLICANT SAID THAT IT HAD BEEN APPROVED.
HAS THIS BEEN CO COMPLETED? BUT THERE'S ALREADY A STREET DONE, SO YES.
SO WE, WE PULLED ALL OF OUR APPROPRIATE PERMITS.
WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, EVERYTHING'S BEEN APPROVED, COMPLETED.
DID YOU DO AN ARCHEOLOGY STUDY? WE DID EVERYTHING THE CITY REQUIRED US TO DO.
I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE DID NO.
THE CITY DEVELOPMENT, BUT DID.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE WERE REQUIRED AT THIS.
I DON'T REMEMBER TO BE HONEST, IF WE HAD TO.
UM, SO THIS, HOW WE ENDED UP HERE AT THIS COMMITTEE IS, IT WAS A COMPLETE SURPRISE TO US.
WE HAD ALL THE APPROVALS, UM, I MEAN EVERYTHING WENT THROUGH.
WELL, IT IS A SURPRISE, BUT YOU ALSO SAY YOU'RE A DEVELOPER THAT'S BEEN USED TO DOING A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS AND IF YOU JUST, WHEN YOU BUY A PROPERTY OR WHEN YOU GO IN, IT'S CODED AS HISTORIC OR THERE IS A HISTORIC OVERLAY.
SO LIKE, DOES ONE OF YOU KNOW IT JUST, IT WAS JUST A BAD OR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
SO STAFF, HOW WILL YOU, UH, DEAL WITH THIS LAST STIPULATION? UH, WE HAVE A CITY ARCHEOLOGIST ON STAFF THAT CAN REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT EVEN THOUGH THE, THE, THE
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LOT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S ALREADY BEEN OR ASPHALT POOR, THAT, THAT'S ALL I CAN COMMENT ON RIGHT NOW.I'M NOT FOR SURE WHERE HE IS IN IN HIS.
AND THEN I ASKED FAF TO REALLY, UH, KEN IT, AND MAYBE EVEN IF IT REQUIRES TO PUSH DRC TO GET THESE CLARIFICATIONS BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND WHAT'S BEEN DONE AND, AND WHAT CAN ACTUALLY STAY AS A STIPULATION IF THAT CAN BE CLARIFIED BEFORE IT COMES BACK FOR FINAL, THAT THE ONLY THING THAT, THAT I BELIEVE MAY BE NEEDING TO BE ADJUSTED COULD, WOULD BE THE CURB CUT.
UM, THE REASON WHY THIS IS HERE IN FRONT OF US IS BECAUSE BACK IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, STAFF NOTED ON A PERMIT FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THIS, ON WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE RIVER IMPROVEMENT OVERLAY.
UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, I, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN FLAGGED OR HAVE SEEN ANY OTHER PERMITS.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CHECK ON.
UH, BUT UH, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US TODAY IS, IS WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING, UH, IN REGARDS TO THESE 21 STRUCTURES.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS WHAT WE FIND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UM, AND AS WITH ANY APPLICANT WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THESE APPLICANTS AND FIND, UH, THE MOST EFFICIENT PATH FORWARD, UH, FOR THEM TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND CONTINUE.
AND, AND MR. CHAIR OF HIS POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
I, I I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, MY, UH, COMMENTS ARE NOT DESIGN, UH, ORIENTED.
IT'S ABOUT THE URBAN PATTERN AND, AND THE, THE, THE WAY THAT THAT'S HANDLED, THERE'S A HUNDRED DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS FOR HOW IT'S HANDLED, BUT MY CONCERN IS THE INTRODUCTION OF SOMETHING THAT IS COUNTER TO THE URBAN PATTERN.
UH, CAN COMMISSIONER GUEVARA COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS, SIR.
COMMISSIONER MAZUA? UH, THIS IS MORE OF A QUESTION.
AM I ALLOWED, UM, ARE THERE ANY FENCE FENCES IN BETWEEN THESE HOUSES? THESE BUILDINGS? YES, SIR.
SO EACH UNIT WILL HAVE A FENCE BETWEEN EACH OTHER AND THEN IT'LL WRAP FOR THEIR OWN BACKYARD AS WELL.
SO EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN PRIVATE BACKYARD.
UH, I'D LIKE TO INQUIRE THE FRONT DOOR VERSUS SIDE DOOR.
UH, IT, IT JUST SEEMS TO RESONATE AS ME, WHICH IS YOUR RIGHT, YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS SIDE DOOR.
THAT'S JUST FROM OUR EXPERIENCE, THAT'S WHAT'S RENTED OUT MOST, YOU KNOW, QUICKER AND, AND IT'S WHAT TENANTS HAVE WANTED.
UM, AND WE HAVE FRONT DOOR PLANS AS WELL.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAYBE DO A MIXTURE.
WE'D COME IN AND DO SOME SIDE DOOR, SOME FRONT DOOR, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, AND THAT WOULD GIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS AS WELL SO THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE 21, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS EXACTLY THE SAME.
WE CAN MIX THAT UP AND I MEAN, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
I MEAN, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.
THAT, THAT'S WAS THE ESSENCE OF MY QUESTION.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO BE LIKE, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT'S GONNA BE LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN.
I MEAN, IT, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE AND, AND UM, YOU KNOW, SPLIT IT UP THAT WAY.
UM, MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? SAVINO? AYE.
YES, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, MEETING WITH Y'ALL AT A DRC.
SECOND, IS THAT GONNA BE NEXT WEEK? AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, H-H-D-R-C, CASE NUMBER 2026 DASH 1 59 1 45 THERA BOULEVARD.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPROVAL.
ONE, ENCLOSED TWO WINDOW OPENING THAT THE REAR FACING FACADE TO INCLUDE INSTALLATION OF A 65 BY 73 INCH FIXED WINDOW.
AND TWO, REPLACE A NON HISTORIC ONE OVER ONE WOOD, OR, I'M SORRY, REPLACE A NON HISTORIC ONE OVER ONE WINDOW AT THE WEST FACADE WITH A NEW CASEMENT WINDOW.
THE STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEMS ONE AND TWO BASED ON THE FINDINGS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT RETAINED THE EXISTING WINDOW OPENINGS LOCATED ON SITE CROSSES HERE, UM, AS THE APPLICANT.
UM, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UH, PER FINDING, B, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTED APPROVAL FOR ROOF MODIFICATIONS, WINDOW REAR DOOR AND SIDING REPLACEMENT FRONT DOOR STAINING AND EXTERIOR PAINTING OF NON MASONRY SURFACES.
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NOT FEATURE ANY HISTORIC WOOD WINDOWS ON SITE AND SIDING.A DOOR REAR, REAR DOOR REPLACEMENT IS REQUESTED FOR THE EXISTING REAR EDITION.
UM, THESE ITEMS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL AND DO NOT REQUIRE REVIEW BY THE HISTORIC DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION, BUT THEY MAY BE FOUND IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENTS.
UM, IF THE APPLICANTS WOULD LIKE TO COME UP, YOU HAVE 12 MINUTES TO DISCUSS THE CASE AND THEN COMMISSIONERS WILL ASK THEIR QUESTIONS.
HELLO EVERYONE, MY NAME'S HEATHER KEENAN AND I'M A CONSULTANT AT CROSS.
WE'RE A LUXURY DESIGN BUILD REMODELING COMPANY AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR TWO CLIENTS, STEPHANIE AND JACOB ABRAM, WHO ARE THE OWNERS AT 1 45, LORRAINE AND ALMOST PARK TERRACE.
THEY HAD A PREVIOUSLY BOOKED VACATION FOR THIS TIME WHERE THEY WOULD BE HERE AS WELL.
JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF, UM, VIEW OF WHO THEY ARE.
THEY'RE BOTH FROM SAN ANTONIO AND THEY MET WORKING AT BILL MILLER IN HIGH SCHOOL.
THEY'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR 30 YEARS.
JACOB IS A VETERAN, RECENTLY RETIRED FROM THE ARMY AND SERVED OUR COUNTRY AS AN ARMY PILOT IN MULTIPLE OVERSEAS DIPLOMATIC POSTS ON MULTIPLE CONTINENTS.
THEY PURCHASED THIS HOME 10 YEARS AGO WHILE THEY WERE STILL LIVING OVERSEAS WITH THE LONG-TERM DREAM OF MAKING THIS THEIR FOREVER HOME.
SO THEY'VE REALLY CAREFULLY, THOUGHTFULLY BEEN PLANNING EXACTLY EVERY ELEMENT THAT WOULD SERVE THEM IN THEIR DAILY USE.
UM, THE HOUSE WAS PREVIOUSLY RENOVATED AND ADDED ON TO BEFORE THEY PURCHASED IN, IN 2016.
SO AS BRIAN SAID, NO ORIGINAL WINDOWS EXISTING.
THEY WERE REPLACED WITH CHEAPER VINYL WINDOWS THAT ARE NOT HISTORIC, HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.
UM, THEY HAVE THEIR BACKYARD AND GARDEN ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM.
YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IN THIS SHOP, BUT THEY HAVE RAISED BEDS AND ARE PLANNING A GARDEN EXPANSION, GROW A LOT OF VEGETABLES BACK THERE.
SO TRULY THE GOAL FOR THE PRIMARY BEDROOM WINDOWS IS TO REMOVE THOSE AND CREATE A LARGER PICTURE WINDOW THAT ALLOWS THEM FURTHER ENJOYMENT OF THE BEAUTIFUL BACKYARD AND GARDEN.
THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY, UM, GOAL HERE.
AND THEN THE PRIMARY BATHROOM WINDOW, THEY'RE ASKING TO CHANGE THAT TO A CASEMENT WINDOW.
THEY'VE HAD THAT IN OTHER PROPERTIES OVERSEAS BEFORE AND JUST ENJOY GREATER AIR FLOW AND OPENING THAT UP TO NATURE WHILE THEY'RE IN THEIR PRIMARY BATHROOM.
UM, THE WINDOWS WE'VE SELECTED FOR THE PROJECT ARE HIGH QUALITY P WOOD AND ALUMINUM CLOUD WINDOWS IN THE SAME CURRENT EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR TRIM COLORS.
IT'S OUR OPINION THAT THESE WINDOWS WILL LOOK MORE HISTORICALLY ACCURATE THAN THE EXISTING VINYL ONES.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY, THE TWO WINDOWS IN QUESTION ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD AND SHOULD NOT STAND OUT.
CHANGING THESE FENESTRATION, UM, AREAS WILL NOT IMPACT THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE BUILDING AND WOULD BOTH BE DONE ON THE NON-ORIGINAL PORTION OF THE HOUSE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THESE FENESTRATION CHANGES.
IT'S TRULY OUR INTENT AND OUR CLIENT'S INTENT TO MAKE THIS HOME AS BEAUTIFUL, FUNCTIONAL, AND IN KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE CAN.
UH, WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER, GROUP COMMISSIONER.
UM, I CAN DO A MOTION WHEN YOU OKAY.
COMMISSIONER MAZUA? NONE RIGHT NOW.
COMMISSIONER TRAVIESO? NONE AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER SAVINO? YEAH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, YOU ARE REPLACING A NUMBER OF WINDOWS,
UM, AND SO STAFF IS THE CO UH, THE CONCERN OBVIOUSLY IS THE SIZE OF THE OPENING AND THE TYPE OF WINDOWS CORRECT? AS IT RELATES TO THE ORIGINAL HOUSE, RIGHT? IT DOES, YES.
SO THE HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES RECOMMENDS THAT, UH, TRADITIONAL, UM, WINDOW PROFILES AND SIZES BE USED, UM, EVEN FOR REAR ADDITIONS.
UM, HOWEVER, WE ARE SYMPATHETIC THAT THE, THAT THE ACTUAL REQUEST IS FOR THIS REAR ADDITION.
UM, IT'S NOT ON THE HISTORIC FOOTPRINT.
AND ARE YOU IN SUPPORTIVE OF THE WINDOW PRODUCT? UM, YES.
SO THE WINDOW, UM, THE APPLICANT'S PROVIDED WINDOW, UM, SPECIFICATIONS AND IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE WINDOWS FIT THE, UM, WINDOW SPECIFICATIONS OUTLINED IN THE POLICY DOCUMENT.
SO THE WINDOW PRODUCT IS, IS ACCEPTABLE.
IT'S THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE MODIFY, IF AT ALL, SOME OF THE EXISTING OPENINGS, CORRECT? RIGHT.
'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YES, SOMEBODY TOOK OUT THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS AND WHAT OFTEN PEOPLE
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DO WILL BE TO BLOCK IN THAT SPACE, THAT REMAINING SPACE THAT DOESN'T FIT A STANDARD WINDOW TYPE, RIGHT? MM-HMMIS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENED? WE BELIEVE SO, YEAH.
THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER VELASQUEZ? UH, NO, SIR.
UM, I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER GRU, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY WELL, AND I, I WANT THIS TO GO TO DISCUSSION IF I MAY SAY SOME COMMENTS.
ONE IS WE'RE, I AM VERY CONSISTENT, RIGHT? MODIFYING WINDOWS AND ALL THAT.
THESE HAVE BEEN MODIFIED THE APPLICANTS.
I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN UPGRADE.
RIGHT? UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ALSO TOTALLY CLEAR.
WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENCLOSING THIS REAR WINDOW, RIGHT? WHICH IS NON-ORIGINAL OPENING.
UM, COMBINING THOSE TWO AND CREATING A NEW OPENING THERE AS ONE LARGE PICTURE WINDOW RATHER THAN TWO EXISTING.
AND THE NON HISTORIC 1 0 1 IN THE, ON THE WEST FACADE WITH A NEW CASEMENT WINDOW.
ARE YOU MODIFYING THE OPENING? CURRENTLY THE OPENING IS VERY SMALL.
WE HAVE A, WE SUBMITTED A PICTURE, BUT, UM, SO WE WOULD BE MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BUT, UM, NOT AS MUCH OF A CHANGE AS THE BACK PRIMARY WALL, BUT IS IT AS BIG AS WHAT WAS THERE ORIGINALLY, YOU THINK, UH, ORIGINALLY WOULD IT BE CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE ORIGINAL OPENINGS? SO IS IT GONNA, LIKE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CHANGING ALL THE WINDOWS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO ACTUALLY THIS WINDOW IS SMALLER THAN ALL OF ALL, I BELIEVE ALL THE OTHER WINDOWS, EXISTING ORIGINAL WINDOWS IN THE HOUSE, THE ONE THAT WAS ON THIS ADDITION ON THE SIDE OF THE BATHROOM IS VERY SMALL.
AND I CAN, UH, CHIME INTO, SO THE BOTH WINDOWS, INCLUDING THIS CASEMENT WINDOW ON THE WEST ELEVATION IS ON THE PREVIOUSLY OR ON THE CONSTRUCTED REAR ADDITION.
SO, UM, IT, IT'S HARD TO TELL WHAT WAS ORIGINAL AND WHAT WASN'T.
AS, AS EVERYONE SAID, THE WINDOWS HAVE ALL BEEN REPLACED AT THE TIME.
AND I GUESS I WAS GONNA REPHRASE.
I USE REPLACING IT WITH A WINDOW THAT'S COMPARABLE IN SIZE FROM THE WINDOWS THAT ARE ON THE ORIGINAL PART OF THE HOME THAT YOU'RE CHANGING OUT, OR WILL IT STILL BE SMALLER? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPECS OF THE CASEMENT WINDOW THERE.
IT WOULD PERHAPS KRISTA CAN, IF I COULD CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT, THE, IT WOULD BE THINNER.
UM, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH OTHER CASEMENT WINDOWS OF ITS OF ITS DESIGN.
I DON'T HAVE FURTHER COMMENTS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GUEVARA.
COMMISSIONER MOOKA? NO COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER SAVINO? NO COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER VELAZQUEZ, UH, MR. CHAIR? I JUST, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, THAT THE PROPOSED, UM, ENLARGED WINDOW IN THE INCLUSION OF THE OTHER WINDOW, I THINK WOULD DEFINE, UH, WHAT IS APPROPRIATE.
THEY SEEM THAT THEY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AND JUST MAKING THE COMMENT THAT, UM, THAT I HOPE THAT IT CREATES A, UM, A, A CATEGORY OF APPROPRIATENESS.
UH, MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? SAVINO NAY VELASQUEZ? YES.
THAT IS THE LAST AGENDA ITEM, SO WE ARE ADJOURNED.