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IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH TRANSLATION, I'M SORRY, SPANISH INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
MY NAME IS JOHN BUSANTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
THE TIME IS ONE O'CLOCK AND I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION.
IN THE SESSION, I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ON MY FAR LEFT.
MY NAME IS ROB S SIPES AND I REPRESENT DISTRICT SEVEN.
UM, JOHN KELLY, REPRESENTING DISTRICT EIGHT.
DANNY KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10 MOSES VE, DISTRICT NINE SF DISTRICT TWO.
KEN HUI, DISTRICT SIX, GEORGE OSA, DISTRICT THREE.
EDDIE PETE RODRIGUEZ, DISTRICT FOUR GAN PANA MAYOR'S APPOINTEE.
DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YES, A QUORUM IS PRESENT.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF.
IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION.
YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT AREA.
CHECK MARKS INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN X INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING.
YOU'LL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU'LL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND MUST YIELD THE TIME WHEN THE SPEAKER GOES TO THE PODIUM.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
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OR POSTPONED ITEMS? WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE POSTPONED ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, UM, LOCATED AT, UM, OFF OF PAP FARMS AND WOODBURY DRIVE AND ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS LOCATED OFF FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.ALRIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THOSE TWO ITEMS, THE ONE ON PAP FARM AND WOODBURY DRIVE, AS WELL AS THE ONE ON FREDERICKSBURG ROAD HAVE BEEN POSTPONED.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY.
UM, THEY WILL BE HEARD MAYBE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IF THE APPLICANT DECIDES TO BRING THEM BACK, BUT YOU'LL RECEIVE ANOTHER NOTICE, NOTICE AS YOU DID TODAY FOR THOSE ITEMS. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA COME BACK, IF IT'S GONNA COME BACK, BUT YOU WILL RECEIVE A PUBLIC NOTICE IF THEY DO SO.
IF YOU'RE HERE FOR EITHER PAID FARM IN WOODBURY OR FREDERICKSBURG, YOU CAN GO ABOUT YOUR DAY AND STAY OUT OF THE HEAT.
UM, STAFF IF WE COULD, COULD WE HAVE THE ITEMS ON OUR COMBINED HEARING? NUMBER ONE, THE CONSENT DOCKET, RED PLEASE.
UM, ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THE COMBINED HEARING ARE ITEMS 4, 5, 6 HAS BEEN MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL.
EIGHT, NINE HAS BEEN MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL.
SO AGAIN, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, 12, AND 13.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANYONE WANT TO REMOVE ANY OTHER ITEM
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TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? LOOKING LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING RIGHT, SEEING NONE.STAFF, IF WE COULD PLEASE READ COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, THE CONSENT AGENDA INTO THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 8 29 WEST HARLAN AVENUE, 24 NOTICES WERE MAILED.
ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE TE TIERRA LINDA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 NA AND C3 R TO C TWO S, OR I'M SORRY, C TWO AND C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 37 59 AND 37 91 PLEASANTON ROAD AND ONE 11 WEST PETALUMA BOULEVARD.
HARLANDALE MCCOLLUM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM IDZ WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
A MACHINE SHOP WAREHOUSING AND A MICROBREWERY TO IDZ THREE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR PRINTER LARGE SCALE WAREHOUSING AND ALCOHOL DISTILLATION STORAGE WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2000 SOUTH PRESO STREET 41 NOTICES WERE MAILED.
ZERO OPPOSED? THE ROOSEVELT PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR, UM, WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE ALCOHOL FOR CONSUMPTION, THE ALCOHOL DISTILLATION STORAGE IS USED FOR CONSUMPTION PURPOSES ONLY.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C3 NA WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
UM, 12 NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO RM FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 4,200 BLOCK OF NACRO PARIN BOULEVARD.
ZERO OPPOSED AND NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MI ONE TO I TWO WITH ALL OVER LA TO REMAIN THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 16,000 BLOCK OF APPLEWHITE ROAD.
SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM MHC TO MHP WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 2 1 1 9 3 LAMB ROAD.
EIGHT NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR.
ONE OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, AND OUTSIDE 200 FEET WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE ITEMS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UM, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 4 5 8 10 11, 12 AND 13.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.
UH, COMMISSIONER KELLUM, I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU.
UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 4 5 8 10 11, 12 AND 13 BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM DISCUSSION.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 4 5 8 10 11 12 13 BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE JUST WENT OVER, YOU CAN GO ABOUT YOUR DAY.
YOU ARE HEADING TO CITY COUNCIL.
YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO GO THERE AND SUE YOUR ZONING CHANGE.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT UH, AGENDA IS, UH, CONTINUANCE HEARING AGENDA TO AUGUST 18TH, 2026.
WE HAVE BOTH ITEM NUMBER TWO AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ARE REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE AUGUST 18TH, 2026 MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND SEVEN, MR. CHAIR.
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YES.CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO THE AUGUST 18TH ZONING HEARING ITEM NUMBER TWO AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
UM, IN ANY DISCUSSION, LOOKING TO MY LEFT, SEEING NONE.
LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND SEVEN TO AUGUST 18TH, 2026.
UH, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEMS NUMBER TWO OR SEVEN, WE WILL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
JUST TO BE CLEAR, I WASN'T, WASN'T FOR CLOSING THAT FROM YOU.
UM, ALRIGHT, WE'RE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL, UH, HEARING ITEMS, BEGINNING WITH ITEM NUMBER SIX.
I'M A SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX HERE IS THE BLANCO ROAD LARGE ERROR REZONING CASE NUMBER Z 2027.
UH, GENERALLY, GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE BLANCO ROAD CORRIDOR BETWEEN FRESNO STREET TO THE NORTH WEST HILDEBRAND AVENUE TO THE SOUTH, EXTENDING APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET EAST AND WEST OF BLANCO ROAD.
UH, THE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE ZONING CHANGES ARE FROM R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT R FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.
MF 33 MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C ONE CD LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO SALES.
C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C TWO P COMMERCIAL PEDESTRIAN DISTRICT C TWO, AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT.
OH ONE CD OFFICE DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR DRY GOODS STORE OH TWO HIGH-RISE OFFICE DISTRICT C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TWO RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT RM FOUR CD RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT.
UM, WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT IDZ TWO.
MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND RM FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIX DISTRICT IDZ TWO.
MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND AUTO UPHOLSTERY.
SALES AND INSTALLATION COMPLETELY ENCLOSED.
AND STUDIO SOUND AND RECORDING IDZ TWO.
MEDIUM INTENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND THREE DWELLING UNITS.
C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT C TWO AND A COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT C TWO AND A CD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR.
C TWO AND A CD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO PAINT AND BODY REPAIR WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE OF VEHICLES AND PARTS PERMITTED BUT TOTALLY SCREENED FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND PUBLIC ROADWAYS.
C TWO AND A CD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
FULL SERVICE C TWO AND A CD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FEED SEED AND FERTILIZER SALES.
C TWO AND A CD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR STONE MONUMENT RETAIL AND WHOLESALE C TWO AND A CD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL OUTSIDE STORAGE AND TRAINING AREA.
PERMITTED C TWO NACD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CANDY MANUFACTURING.
C TWO NAS COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH.
C TWO NACD COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR HOME IMPROVEMENT CENTER WITH OVER OVERLAYS REMAINING UNCHANGED INCLUDING HS.
HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE AND A HOD AIRPORT HAZARD OVERLAY.
DISTRICT COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE ISSUED A CCR ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2026 AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION ON APRIL 30TH, 2026.
DIRECTING THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO INITIATE A LARGE AREA REZONING GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG A SECTION OF THE BLANCO ROAD CORRIDOR.
THE PROPOSED LAR AIMS TO ALIGN ZONING WITH EXISTING LAND USE.
SPECIFICALLY REZONING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS INDUSTRIAL INTO RESIDENTIAL DIS DESIGNATIONS, ADJUSTING COMMERCIAL USAGE AND EXPLORING INCREASED RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WHERE
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APPLICABLE AND APPLYING NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT TO PROPERTIES WHERE APPROPRIATE.THERE IS A TOTAL OF 126 PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED A MIXTURE OF I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMEND 118 ZONING AND LAND USE CHANGES CONSISTING OF 113 PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES AND FIVE LAND USE CHANGES WITH NO CORRESPONDING ZONING CHANGES.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE PROPERTIES GOING FROM INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AND RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICTS.
STAFF HELD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT EDISON HIGH SCHOOL IN JUNE AND POSTED FOUR SIGNS IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS WITHIN THE SUBJECT AREA.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFF MET WITH VARIOUS PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED VERBAL SUPPORT, ALTHOUGH WE DID NOT RECEIVE OFFICIAL RESPONSES ON RECORD.
THERE WAS 306 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, 12 IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET, ZERO IN FAVOR AND TWO OPPOSED.
THE NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE BEACON HILL ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT RESPOND.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND UM, THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF WE COULD HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.
WE HAVE ONE SIGNED UP, MS. APRIL MALDONADO.
MS. MALDONADO, IF YOU WOULD SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YES, GIVE US YOUR OPINION.
APRIL MALDONADO, 8 25 WESTWOOD.
UM, I LIVE, I AM PRETTY MUCH THE FIRST HOUSE INSIDE OF BLANCO ON THE EAST SIDE.
UM, WE AS A COMMUNITY, AS THE EDISON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, ARE MAJORITY NOT IN FAVOR.
UM, AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE IS SUCH A BIG ZONING AREA THAT WE WEREN'T GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND NOT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL.
WE WOULD OF COURSE HAVE LIKED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TAKEN THIS INTO TWO DIFFERENT PARTS, UM, TO BETTER BE ABLE TO ADDRESS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, ALSO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, THIS WAS A BLANKETED AREA AND SO THOSE AFFECTED PROPERTIES THAT WERE STATED, THEY ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF BLANCO.
NONE OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE OF BLANCO WERE ANY OF THE ONES AFFECTED.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS, IT WAS DECIDED TO BE BLANKETED IN, WE ARE NOW HAVING TO FIGHT FOR SOMETHING THAT THERE IS REALLY NO, UH, ADJUSTMENT NEEDED FOR THE E UH, FOR THE EAST SIDE OF BLANCO.
UM, IN GOING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY PLAN, AS I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE THAT WAS MADE IN 2002.
UM, THIS WAS DONE FOR THE WHOLE EDISON AREA AND A BROADER SPECTER OF IT.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE SOME STATEMENTS THAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO READ ALOUD TO YOU THAT WERE PUT IN HERE.
UM, ONE OF THEM BEING THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS TO ENCOURAGE NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY BUSINESSES, NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL, WE DO WANNA SEE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OBVIOUSLY MOVE FORWARD, UM, AND GET REVITALIZED AND DO A LOT OF STUFF.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT IN THE SMALLER, KIND OF LIKE THE BEACON HILL AREA.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PROGRESS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT PROGRESS LOOKS LIKE.
UM, THAT PLAN WAS TO DISCOURAGE HIGHER INTENSITY USES CHANGING ALL THIS TO SEE TWO IS ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING HIGHER INTENSITY AND NOT LOWER INTENSITY GOES AGAINST THE PLAN.
UM, I KNOW THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN ESTABLISHED SUB ZONING COMMITTEE PRIOR TO THIS PER THE PLAN OF 2002.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, I SEE THAT THAT WAS NOT DONE AS WELL.
UM, THE OTHER THING, UH, THAT WAS PUT OUT IN THIS PLAN WAS THAT TO DISCOURAGE, UM, ANY ENCROACHMENT INTO RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR COMMERCIAL USE, UM, BY US ALLOWING THIS, IT IS ALLOWING THAT ENCROACHMENT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF POINTS IN HERE.
I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO SPEAK, BUT WE ARE IN FAVOR OF SEEING OUR AREA PROGRESS.
UM, AGAIN, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO REVISIT AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE WHERE IT'S ON A SMALLER SCALE.
UM, SO, AND THE NEIGHBORS, A LOT OF 'EM DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, SO WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSAL OF THE AREA THAT THEY CALL HOME.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. MULLIN.
OH, I'M AGAINST, BY THE WAY,
UM, ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M NOT GONNA GIVE THE CITY STAFF A REBUTTAL.
THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE, SO, UH, TO YOU COMMISSIONER KELLUM FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, FIRST STAFF, UM, THE EDISON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, I DID NOT, I DID NOT HEAR THAT REFERENCED.
AND THOSE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST? YEAH, THAT, THAT IS NOT A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH THE CITY.
AND THEN A QUESTION FOR MRS. MALDONADO, PLEASE IF YOU MIND COMING UP.
UM, APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN TODAY.
I APPRECIATE THE POINTS THAT YOU MADE
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FOR SURE.UM, DID THE CITY STAFF REACH OUT TO YOU, DISTRICT STAFF REACH OUT TO YOU? I SHOULD SAY, UH, DISTRICT ONE, I REQUESTED A MEETING WITH HER AFTER THE SECOND ATTEMPT.
SHE DID REACH OUT TO ME VIA CON A VIDEO CONFERENCE.
AND AS I REMEMBER YOU SAYING, AND CLARIFY IF I'M WRONG, YOU DID RECEIVE AN EXEMPTION FOR YOUR PROPERTY, IS THAT RIGHT? I, I DID, YES.
AND ARE YOU SPEAKING FOR YOURSELF TODAY OR FOR THE I AM SPEAKING FOR WHO I HAVE SITTING NEXT TO ME RIGHT NOW IS THE OLD EDISON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTIVE ONE.
SHE WAS PART OF THE OLD ONE, BUT I HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND I HAVE BEEN WALKING HOUSE TO HOUSE EXPLAINING WHAT IS GOING ON AND TAKING THE NOTICE.
SO I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOU SAID YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE AS OF TODAY, SIGNATURES? I DO HAVE SIGNATURES.
I HAVE NOT FINISHED, BUT I DO HAVE THE PROTEST HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
THESE ARE THE SIGNATURES I HAVE SO FAR.
WOULD YOU HAND IT TO YOUR STAFF? THEY CAN PROJECT IT.
AND THIS IS BASED ON JUST ONE STREET AND PART OF ONE BLOCK.
QUESTIONS? OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER BEL, UH, TO MS. ALDO, BEFORE YOU GO BACK DOWN.
I, UH, WHY ISN'T, UM, IS IT ED? SORRY, EDISON WHAT? EDISON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, WHY AREN'T YOU, UH, REGISTERED? UM, YET? THEY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ONE YET.
WE'VE KIND OF BEEN THE LAST, UM, TIME WE HAD TO DO THIS WAS BACK IN 2012 AND THAT'S WHEN THE COMMUNITY WAS ACTIVE.
UM, THE COMMUNITIES KIND OF, WE KIND OF ALL KNOW EACH OTHER HASN'T BEEN A REASON TO DO IT.
AND THOSE THAT WERE THERE, THEY'VE KIND OF AGED OUT.
DO YOU GUYS CURRENTLY HAVE A BOARD? WE DO NOT, NO.
AND THEN NO, UH, LEGAL ENTITY.
IT WAS AN ASSOCIATION, NOT A, NO, WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO FORM ONE, BUT YOU KNOW,
UH, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE JUST FOR ALL OF OUR BENEFIT BETWEEN R FOUR AND RM FOUR? SURE, HAPPY TO.
SO THE, UH, R FOUR IS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
OUR M FOUR IS RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT.
SO THE, THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS THAT, UH, THAT ALLOWS UP TO FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
THEY WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, IF THE PROPERTY'S UNDER A THIRD OF AN ACRE WITHIN ONE STRUCTURE.
SO WE'VE SEEN WITH OTHER RESIDENTIAL, UH, UH, DISTRICTS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, BUY RIGHT TO HAVE A DUPLEX OR IS, IS THIS, UH, PART OF THE CITY THAT HAS, UH, BUY RIGHT DUPLEX CONVERSION? YES.
SO, UH, THE DIFFERENCE WAS TWO UNITS TO FOUR UNITS.
A HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE DENSITY, THE, UH, INDUSTRIAL TO C TWO CONVERSION.
UM, I HEARD DURING THE, UH, BRIEFING THAT WE HAD HAD IN THE, THE, THE CLOSED SESSION, UM, WHAT WAS IT LAST WEEK THAT THE, UH, EXISTING INDUSTRIAL USES ARE ALREADY INCON INCONSISTENT WITH, UH, THE GENERAL PLAN OR THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATIONS? IS, IS, IS THAT RIGHT? DID I REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY? CORRECT.
UM, AND THAT, THAT WAS ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS, UM, SO THE IDEA THAT THIS IS A MORE INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED IS, IS NOT ACCURATE.
SO IN, UH, ALLOWS MANUFACTURING USES, SO THIS IS A, A, WE WOULD CONSIDER THIS A DOWN ZONING TO C TWO AND, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE, UM, LAND USE DESIGNATIONS IS NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, WHICH ALSO DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING SOME LAND USE CHANGES AS WELL THAT'S GOING TO PLANNING COMMISSION TO MIXED USE.
BUT THAT WOULD ALIGN WITH THE C TWO, WHICH IS A LESS INTENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.
UH, BUT THE R FOUR TO RM FOUR IS A HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASED IN DENSITY.
THAT'S CERTAINLY INCREASED INTENSITY.
SO, I MEAN, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THEN THAT LIKE THERE'S MULTIPLE COMPONENTS OF THE, THE PROPOSED REZONE, THERE'S THE, YOU KNOW, BLANCO CORRIDOR INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL, AND THEN THERE'S THE R FOUR TO RM FOUR, THAT THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO SEPARATE PARTS? CORRECT.
THAT, THAT IS WHAT CITY COUNCIL PROPOSED IN THEIR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND THEN JUST BRIEFLY, UH, WHAT ARE LAND USE PRINCIPLES FOR HAVING RM FOUR BETWEEN R FOUR AND AND C TWO? WHY, WHY WOULD YOU WANT IT? UH, TO, TO HAVE THE, UH, INCREASED DENSITY AS YOU GET TESTED? YEAH.
IT'S, IT'S AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY, UM, TO HAVE A, A SLIGHTLY MORE DENSITY BETWEEN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES
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AND A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.HAS, UH, STAFF CONSIDERED THE CONSEQUENCES OF EXEMPTING INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES FROM THE RM FOUR DESIGNATION? YOU KNOW, OFTEN WE TALK ABOUT CONSISTENCY AND ISLANDS, YOU KNOW, ZONING ISLANDS.
SO LIKE ONE PROPERTY EXEMPTED ITSELF FROM RM FOUR, BUT IT'S SURROUNDED BY RM FOUR IN THE FUTURE.
MIGHT THAT PRESENT CHALLENGES OF INCOMPATIBLE USES OR, WELL, THAT, THAT ORIGINALLY OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES.
SO, UM, THE COUNCIL OFFICE HAS REQUESTED AND, UH, THAT WE EXCLUDE PROPERTIES AND THEY, THEY'D BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT EVEN IF WE DIDN'T AT CITY COUNCIL.
AND JUST FROM BASIC WITH LAND USE PRINCIPLES THAT STAFF LOOKS AT, YOU KNOW, THOSE RMS ARE NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT.
THEY, YOU KNOW, MIXED IN WITH SINGLE FAMILY.
IF IT WAS A MULTI-FAMILY WHERE YOU'RE DOING FIVE OR MORE, THAT COULD BE OF CONCERN.
BUT MIXING IN SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL MIXES THAT MIDDLE HOUSING IS, HAS COME UP, UM, TO BE A CONS OF MEAT, THAT CONSISTENCY THAT I BELIEVE YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT, AND IT WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED AN ISLAND OR A POCKET.
UM, CAN I ASK FOR A QUICK CLARIFICATION? I THINK YOU USED THE TERM CLOSED SESSION.
DID YOU MEAN WORK SESSION? YEAH, BECAUSE THERE, JUST, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, THERE HAVE BEEN NO CLOSED SESSIONS RELATED TO THIS CASE TO SO MUCH.
YEAH, I MEANT WORK SESSION, THE SESSION BEFORE THIS SESSION.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
BY THE WAY, IF YOU WANNA BE BORED FOR ANOTHER 30 MINUTES, YOU CAN COME TO THAT TOO.
UH, COMMISSIONER WHITSETT, I, I THINK I GENERALLY GOT MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY COMMISSIONER DI DELL'S QUESTIONING.
UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? YES.
COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF REAL QUICK.
REMIND ME, I'M SURE IT WAS PRESENTED, BUT, UH, HOW DID THIS, UH, LAR GET STARTED WAS A CCR, CORRECT? YEAH, IT WAS A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST ISSUED IN FEBRUARY BY DISTRICT ONE, UM, IN, IN RESPONSE TO REQUEST BY THE CONSTITUENTS TO SEE IF SOMETHING COULD BE DONE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
AND THEN MS. MARLO, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, SPECIFICALLY WHAT ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE RM FOUR ON THE EAST SIDE OF BLANCO? BECAUSE CURRENTLY OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION, I'VE BEEN, I'M A REALTOR.
I I'VE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE FOR RE MAX FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW WHAT IT DOES TO THE PROPERTY VALUES AS WELL.
UM, AND THE HINDRANCE IT WOULD HAVE, I'VE HAD A DRUNK DRIVER COME THROUGH MY HOUSE ALREADY IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, AND SO I'M NOT LOOKING TO CREATE TRAFFIC INTO THE AREA.
UM, WE HAVE ALREADY ON ALMOST, WE HAVE A WHOLE BLOCK OF DUPLEX THAT CREATES LOTS OF PROBLEMS FOR US.
AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO BRING ANY MORE HIGH DENSITY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL RESIDE.
AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND QUESTION, LAST QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, I SAW YOUR LITTLE LETTER WITH SOME NAMES ON THERE.
UM, WERE YOU ABLE TO GET ANY MORE MEMBERS FOR YOUR NEWLY FORMED, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION I HA
I THINK IT'S, IT'S, A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AS IT'S, WELL, IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING, BUT I THINK IT, IT HOLDS A LOT OF VALUE, ESPECIALLY HERE TO GET THAT NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION STARTED, GET REGISTERED WITH THE CITY SO THAT YOU CAN GET NOTIFIED AND, AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF A VOICE, MAYBE YES, AS A GROUP.
BUT THIS WILL, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET MORE NEIGHBORS INVOLVED, UH, IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? SEEING NONE.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER KELLUM TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
UH, I THINK THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE AS WE OFTEN SAY, UM, BUT I THINK THE INTENT FROM THE COUNCIL OFFICE IS GOOD.
UM, ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE MRS. MALDONADO'S CONCERNS AND CERTAINLY, UH, UH, UNDERSTAND WHAT HER OPPOSITIONS ARE.
I DO THINK FOR THE MOST PART THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD THING FOR THE AREA.
AS WITH MOST OF THESE LARGE AREA ZONINGS, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HIT A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT I THINK THE, THE GOOD OUTWEIGHS THE BAD IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.
AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS GONNA BE FOR APPROVAL, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE A RECOMMENDING BODY.
PLEASE TAKE THIS TIME BETWEEN IF IT APPROVES BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL TO KEEP REACHING OUT.
I WILL ADVOCATE FOR YOU IF, IF THAT'S, UM, THE DECISION THAT IS MADE, UH, SO THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE CONCERNS CAN CONTINUE TO BE MADE.
BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE, I DO APPRECIATE BEING HERE TODAY.
I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S OFFICE FOR REACHING OUT AND TRYING
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TO EXCLUDE THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT DID NOT, DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANNA BE A PART OF THE, THE ZONING CHANGE.AND SO AGAIN, MY MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, UM, DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT.
YEAH, I ONLY, IT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE THAT THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS, IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO KICK IT INTO GEAR.
UM, SO I, I KNOW THAT THIS ITEM WOULDN'T BE GOING TO COUNCIL IF WE WERE TO, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR I GUESS IT DOESN'T MATTER, RIGHT? IF WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL, IT'S GONNA COUNCIL, IF WE DON'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL, IT'S GONNA COUNCIL.
UM, BUT, UH, I WONDER IF A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GET THEIR SIGNATURES ON FILE WITH THE CITY.
UM, I, ANOTHER THING IS IF THE COUNCIL OFFICE IS ALLOWING THE NEIGHBORS TO EXEMPT THEIR PROPERTIES FROM RM FOUR, LOOKED LIKE A LOT OF SIGNATURES AND I WONDER COULD THEY, COULD THEY EFFECTIVELY RE REMOVE, YOU KNOW, GET EVERYBODY TO SIGN ON IN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REMOVE THE PROBLEM ENTIRELY OF RM FOUR? UM, THOSE ARE KIND OF THINGS THAT MIGHT, IT MIGHT HELP THE PROCESS TO PUSH IT ON A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT UM, YEAH, I, I SUPPOSE EVEN IF WE WERE TO MOVE IT FORWARD JUST TO THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, NOW'S THE TIME, UH, TO GO AND DO THAT AND GET THOSE EXEMPTIONS.
UH, UH, I KNOW IT'S OUTTA ORDER FOR ME TO ASK STAFF A QUESTION, BUT HOW DO, LIKE, HOW FAR AHEAD DOES, UH, AN ITEM TYPICALLY GO TO COUNCIL LIKE THIS? A LARGE AREA REZONE, HOW LONG WOULD THEY HAVE AFTER ZONING COMMISSION? UH, THE SAME AS A NORMAL CASE.
BUT IN PRACTICE, IS IT CURRENTLY SCHEDULED? YEAH.
YES, IT IS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 3RD.
OKAY, SO THEY'D HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO COUPLE, YEAH, ALMOST TWO MONTHS.
THE THIRD, I'M SORRY, ONE MONTH A MONTH.
UM, ANYWAYS, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE YOU, NOW IS THE TIME, UM, TO TRANSLATE THOSE SIGNATURES INTO EXEMPTIONS.
AND I JUST WANNA ALSO SAY THIS ITEM HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS OR LIKE THREE, HOWEVER MANY MONTHS.
NO, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA STOP PUBLIC COMMENT.
BUT ANYWAYS, THAT'S, THAT'S FOR ME.
COMMISSIONER EFF? I JUST BRIEFLY WANTED TO SAY THAT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, I THINK FROM WHAT WE'VE UNDERSTOOD FROM THE OUTREACH BEING DONE, AND ALSO BECAUSE THIS WAS A CCR FROM THE DISTRICT ONE OFFICE, IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT THAT CAN HAPPEN.
AND, UM, FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH LA IN THE TIME FROM GOING FROM A RECOMMENDATION TO ZONING TO COUNCIL, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE AND, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE OF WHAT'S GONNA HAP LIKE HOW THE ZONING'S GONNA IMPACT THEM.
SO I'D ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO REACH OUT.
UM, BUT I THINK GENERALLY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE REZONING, THE INTENTION BEHIND IT, UM, THE OUTREACH DONE AND THE PLANNING, IT, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME AND, UM, SEEMS RIGHT.
SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WILSON.
TO MY RIGHT COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, UH, YEAH, JUST A FINAL WORD AND I'LL JUST REITERATE, UH, GOT A MONTH, REACH OUT SLIGHTLY LESS THAN A MONTH SINCE WE'RE GONNA BE PERSNICKETY ABOUT IT APPARENTLY.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, HAVE THOSE NEIGHBORS REACH OUT.
I'M SURE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CHANGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT AN EXEMPTION, THEY CAN DO THAT.
UM, IN ANY EVENT, NOW, UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE IT UP SEPTEMBER 3RD, REACH OUT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, ALL ITEM NUMBER NINE.
UH, MY NAME IS KELLY SANDERS, PLANNING MANAGER WITH THE ZONING DIVISION.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST FROM C3 NA TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR FITNESS CENTER SLASH HEALTH CLUB GYMNASIUM.
NATATORIUM SPORT COURT WITH OUTDOOR
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USES PERMITTED WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.LOCATED AT 1 5 2 3 4 CLASSEN ROAD.
ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED.
AND THERE'S NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
SO THE EXISTING C3 NA GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO SA COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR FITNESS CENTER SLASH HEALTH CLUB GYMNASIUM NATATORIUM SPORT COURT WITH OUTDOOR USES PERMITTED IS MORE APPROPRIATE.
THIS REQUEST ACCOMMODATES A VOLLEYBALL FACILITY WITH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR COURTS.
THE PROPOSED REZONING REPRESENTS A DOWN ZONING THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE POTENTIAL FOR INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES SUCH AS AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK REPAIR, MAKING IT MORE COMPATIBLE WITH NEARBY RESIDENCES.
ADDITIONALLY, THE EXISTING C ONE, UM, ZONING DIS DESIGNATION TO THE NORTH WILL ACT AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PROPOSED USE.
THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN AND ANY EXPANSION IN BUILDING FOOTPRINT OR IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL APPROVAL.
FURTHERMORE, BECAUSE A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLANE, ADDITIONAL COORDINATION AND REVIEW WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WILL BE REQUIRED.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS CAROLINE MCDONALD WITH BROWN AND MCDONALD 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT.
UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT 10 CASE AS KELLY STATED, AND I DO HAVE THE PROPOSED OPERATORS HERE WITH ME TODAY.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
WE ARE ON CLASSEN ROAD, UH, RIGHT NORTH OF STALL ROAD.
UH, TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IS, UH, A NEW PROPOSED CITY PARK.
UM, IT WAS PART OF THE 22 BOND AND THEY RECENTLY PURCHASED THE, THE ACREAGE FOR THAT PARK.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, WE ARE WITHIN THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY PLAN.
THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION IS PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH EITHER THE CURRENT ZONING DESIGNATION OR THE PROPOSED ZONING DESIGNATION.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING MIXED USE, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE PROPERTIES TO OUR SOUTH.
SO AS KELLY STATED, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C3 AND A.
WE, UH, THE CASE WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED TO REMOVE THE NA, BUT AFTER REVIEWING WITH STAFF AND, UH, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, WE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED A MINUTE APPLICATION SO THAT IT IS REQUESTING A C TWO S FOR THE OUTDOOR COURTS.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THIS SITE PLAN HERE.
WE ARE LIMITING OURSELF TO FOUR OUTDOOR SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS AND THEN FOUR OR FIVE INDOOR, UH, VOLLEYBALL COURTS.
THERE ARE 56 PROPOSED PARKING SPACES AT THIS TIME AND ONE ENTRANCE OFF OF CLASSEN ROAD.
THIS IS, UH, A PICTURE OF THE RENDERING, PROPOSED RENDERING, UH, IT WILL BE CALLED DEE'S SANDBAR.
THAT IS AFTER, UH, SAM'S MOTHER.
AND, UM, WE SHARED ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WITH THE BREYER WICK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATION THIS PAST SUNDAY.
HE IS THE PRESIDENT AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON ADDING, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS TO THE PROPERTY.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S THE BUSH ANDIT PARK, UH, RIGHT HERE.
I PROBABLY MISPRONOUNCED THAT, BUT, UM, THIS IS OUR PROPERTY HERE.
WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
HERE IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND A RESPECTFULLY RESERVED TIME FOR REBUTTAL IF NECESSARY.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
UM, FIRST WE HAVE MR. UMBERTO SALMAN OR SALMON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, SIR? ALL RIGHT.
AND SIR, IF YOU WOULD JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UMBERTO SALMON 1 6 8 3 5 WINDING OAK DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 7.
TELL IF YOU WOULD TELL US YOUR OPINION OF THE PROJECT, WHETHER YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF IT OR OPPOSED, WE'RE OPPOSED TO TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WAS GOING TO BE HERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT.
BUT I'M OPPOSING, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION FOR OUR HOA AT, UH, KLAUSEN ROAD AND MISTY GLAD THEY WANT A CHANGE FROM
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R SIX TO R SIX C AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT WANT THAT.IT WOULD CREATE A LOT OF PROBLEM FOR US.
UH, IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA BE, YOU GOT TWO MORE MINUTES.
UH, BUT I BELIEVE NEXT IS MR. WELCH.
NAME AND ADDRESS AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME IS DOUG WELCH AND I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT AND ACTING PRESIDENT OF THE WICK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
OUR ASSOCIATION HOMES ARE THE NEAREST TO THE PROPERTY, BUT 300 FEET AWAY.
UH, SO THERE WERE NO NOTICES MAILED FOR RESPONSE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AM HERE TODAY NEITHER SUPPORTING NOR OPPOSING THE PROPOSED VOLLEYBALL SPORTS COURT.
UM, MEMBERS OF OUR ASSOCIATION DID MEET WITH MR. AND MS. DABBS AND THE REPRESENTATIVES THIS PAST SUNDAY.
THEY PRESENTED THEIR PLANS AND THEIR DRAFTS.
OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, RAISED CONCERNS MOSTLY ABOUT NOISE AND NUISANCE, UH, AND ALSO TRAFFIC SAFETY AND OVERFLOW PARKING.
THE PROPERTY BORDERS ON THE, UH, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY CONTAINING OUR NEWLY ESTABLISHED LINEAR PARK AND RECENTLY ACQUIRED AREA, UH, WITH TRIBUTARY F OF THE SATO CREEK THAT LEADS TO FEDERALLY PROTECTED WETLANDS.
I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO MAKE TWO POINTS WITH ONE REQUEST DUE TO THE PROPERTY'S LOCATION.
THE ONLY THING SEPARATING IT AND OUR HOMES IS 300 FEET OF OPEN SPACE AND IT, AND ONE TREE LINE.
WE CAN HEAR EVERYTHING COMING ACROSS THAT SPACE.
EVEN WITH THE DABS WORKING AND DOING THEIR BEST EFFORTS TO MINIMIZE EXCESSIVE MUSIC VOLUME AND SUCH, WE DON'T REALLY EXPECT THEM TO ASK THEIR PATRONS TO STOP HAVING FUN.
HOWEVER, EXCESSIVE NOISE, ESPECIALLY ON WEEKDAY NIGHTS, UH, CAN BE A PROBLEM AS THEIR ANTICIPATED HOURS WILL EXTEND AT 11:30 PM THEN THERE IS THIS TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUE THAT FALLS MOSTLY TO THE CITY FOR TRAFFIC CALMING AND ADJUSTMENTS DUE TO THE PROPERTY'S PROXIMITY TO THE RAILROAD CROSSING AND THE CONNECTING CROSSWALK BETWEEN FRIES AND HOME PARK AND THE NEW BOOKING CHUS PARK.
THE POTENTIAL OVERFLOW PARKING DURING LEAGUE PLAY AND TOURNAMENTS IS A CONCERN A TRAFFIC STUDY IS NEEDED BEFORE REZONING IS GRANTED.
WE SEEK A COORDINATED GOOD FAITH EFFORT BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE CITY.
SO TODAY THE NEIGHBOR WICK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS ASKING FOR TIME TO NEGOTIATE AND ATTACH A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AGREEMENT TO RE UH, TO THE REZONING ENSURING HARMONY AND SAFETY FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU IN A LITTLE BIT, SO OKAY.
JUST STAY THERE IN YOUR FRONT ROW SEAT.
UH, ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, MS. MCDONALD, A BRIEF REBUTTAL.
THANK YOU CHAIR AND, AND THANK YOU DOUG FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
UH, JUST WANNA CLARIFY, WE'RE NOT REQUESTING HOMES OR TOWN HOMES AS THE FIRST GENTLEMAN STATED.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL, UH, IT GO, THIS CASE GOES TO CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.
UH, WE HAVE A SOUND ENGINEER INVOLVED WORKING ON, UH, MINIMIZING ANY SOUND FROM SPEAKERS.
THE SPEAKERS WILL BE POINTING TOWARDS THE RAILROAD TRACKS, WHICH ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE A PARKING AGREEMENT THAT WILL BE IN PLACE BEFORE OPENING WITH THE THREE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH OF US TO, FOR OVERFLOW IF THERE ARE ANY TOURNAMENT DATES.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, WE WILL UNDERGO A, A DRAINAGE STUDY, UH, DURING THE PLATING PROCESS.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, UH, THE, THE OPERATORS ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY ZONING LAND USE.
BUT WITH THAT WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS AFTERNOON.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. MCDONALD.
UH, THIS IS A, UH, DISTRICT 10 CASE COMMISSIONER TSET TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
FIRST QUESTION MS. MCDONALD, IF YOU'D COME BACK UP.
UM, THERE WAS, AND DOUG, YOU MENTIONED, UH, 1130.
WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL TIME? YES.
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PROPOSING 10 30 TO 7:30 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY IT IS THREE 30 TO 11:00 PM JUST BECAUSE KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL, PEOPLE WORK TILL ABOUT 5, 5 30.AND THEN SATURDAY IT IS 9:00 AM TO 6:00 PM AND, UH, AT NIGHT, ARE THEY GONNA HAVE OUTDOOR LIGHTING TO HAVE OUTDOOR OR IS IT GONNA ALL BE INDOORS AT NIGHT? I WILL HAVE TO ASK JT OR LT AND SAM.
CAN YOU COME UP HERE AND YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YES.
UH, MY NAME IS LEE TEUS THOMAS.
I LIVE 2 4 1 1 POSAR POINT, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 9.
AND FOR YOUR QUESTION, QUESTION WAS, UH, WHEN IT'S OPEN TIL 11, IS THAT, ARE Y'ALL GONNA BE DOING SAND VOLLEYBALL AT NIGHT OR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ALL THE VOLLEYBALL INSIDE? UH, DURING THE WEEK, YES.
IF THERE'S ANY LATE TOURNAMENTS OR GAMES, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE FIVE INDOOR COURTS.
EVERYTHING WILL BE MOVED INDOORS BY THE LATE NIGHT GAMES BECAUSE WE, IT WILL BE TOURNAMENTS AND BY THAT TOURNAMENT TIME, IT'LL BE ONE COURT OPERATING OR TWO COURTS OPERATING, WHICH WOULD BE INSIDE.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE OUTDOOR LIGHTING LIGHTING UP THE, UH, SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS.
UH, WE MAY HAVE THE OUTSIDE LIGHTS ON UNTIL WE CLOSE, BUT WE WON'T HAVE OUTSIDE MUSIC NOR PATRONS.
I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I'VE GOT AT THE MOMENT.
I'LL LET ANYBODY ELSE, UH, CHIME IN BEFORE I COME BACK.
UH, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? YES.
COMMISSIONER DLE, UH, TO STAFF PARCELS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO.
AND, UH, ZONING, UH, WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE PROPERTY? CURRENT ZONING IS C3 NA.
SO COULD YOU, FOR THE BENEFIT OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, COULD YOU, UH, EXPLAIN WHAT KIND OF USES COULD BE DEVELOPED ON BY RIGHT IN, IN C3 NA WITH A C3 NA, YOU DO HAVE MORE OF YOUR INTENTS, UH, COMMERCIAL USES, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ALL YOUR RETAIL OFFICE SERVICE, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES BARS, UH, NIGHTCLUBS, UH, AUTO SALES, MAYBE AUTO, UM, AUTO DEALERSHIP, BUT ALSO AUTO REPAIR.
THOSE ARE KIND OF SOME OF THE LARGER ONES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN C3 BUT NOT IN THE C TWO THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
REQUESTING, AGAIN, TO DOWN ZONE AND THE USE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OUTDOOR COURTS IS PERMITTED, BUT I BELIEVE THEY WANNA GET RID OF THE NA, UM, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE DOWN ZONING TO THAT C TWO.
AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, UH, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE KIND OF USES THAT ARE CHARACTERISTIC OF C TWO IN, IN CASE IF A A FUTURE OWNER WANTED TO REDEVELOP IT, WHAT WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO DO BY RIGHT.
UM, WITH THE C TWO, AGAIN, YOU'RE ALLOWED A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL LOWER INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES IN, UM, OFFICE USES, UH, RETAIL, SOME OF THE SERVICE.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ALCOHOL, UM, LIKE THE BARS OR A NIGHTCLUB.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE, UH, THE AUTO SALES OR THE AUTO REPAIR.
YOU COULD DO SOME OF THE LIGHT AUTO REPAIR LIKE OIL, LUBE TUBE OR TIRE, BUT THEN YOU COULDN'T DO FULL BLOWN MECHANICAL WORK.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT? SEEING NONE QUESTIONS, RIGHT? YES.
UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF COURTS YOU HAVE AND POSSIBLE NUMBER OF PLAYERS, AND THEN YOUR SITE PLAN SHOWS 56 SPOTS.
SO REMIND ME, WHERE WOULD YOUR OVERFLOW PARKING BE? SURE.
IF YOU GO TO ONE OF THE ZONING OR THE AERIAL MAPS, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE C TWO ZONED PARCELS SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
UH, WE ARE, WE WILL HAVE A PARKING AGREEMENT IN PLACE TO UTILIZE THIS AREA FOR PARKING IF THERE'S NEED.
SORRY, AND I'M POINTING TO IT HERE WITH THE CLICKER.
SO IF I UNDERSTAND, IT'S GONNA BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF RAILROAD TRACKS.
AND THEN OTHER SIDEWALKS THAT WILL ALLOW, UM, PARTICIPANTS TO WALK FROM THE PARKING SPACE TO THE FACILITY.
I AM NOT SURE IF SIDEWALKS ARE IN PLACE RIGHT HERE.
HE IS INDICATING THERE OR NOT.
SO I, I WOULD ASSUME SOMEONE WOULD WORK ON GETTING SIDEWALKS THERE, OTHERWISE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE WALKING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OR SHUTTLE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? YES, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
UH, REMIND ME, IS THE ENTIRE PARCEL IN A FLOOD PLAIN? NO, SIR.
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AREA.SO NONE OF THE BUILDING WILL BE WITHIN THAT AREA.
IT'S JUST THE COURTS AND, UH, THERE WILL BE SOME DETENTION MANAGEMENT.
SO SOME OF THE OUTSIDE COURTS, THE SAND BOXES WILL BE IN, TECHNICALLY IN THE FLOOD PARTS OF THEM? YES.
UM, MY CONCERN WOULD BE A COUPLE CONCERNS.
UH, LIKE OUR, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER STATED THE PARKING, UM, I DON'T KNOW THIS AREA TOO WELL, BUT I, I REALLY WOULD NOT WANT PARKING TO BE ON, IT'S A CLASSON, CLASSON ROAD.
UM, AND I CAN FEEL WHERE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS MIGHT HAVE SOME ISSUES 'CAUSE, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY KIND INLET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT DURING THE TIA WE WILL UNDERGO ANY NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT MIGHT INCLUDE A TURNING LANE TO OUR PROPERTY, BUT THERE IS, THERE IS NO ROOM FOR PARKING ON CLASSON ROAD.
IS CLASON ROAD A TWO LANE STREET? I BELIEVE SO, YES.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS HOURS OF OPERATION.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DIDN'T HEAR SATURDAY.
WHAT IS THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR SATURDAY? YES SIR.
SO SATURDAY IS 9:00 AM TO 6:00 PM OKAY.
DOES THE OWNERS, UH, OWN ANOTHER FACILITY? IS THIS, UH, IS THIS THE FIRST LOCATION? SO I'LL LET SAM COME AND TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.
SHE'S DONE SOME GREAT RESEARCH.
SHE IS A FORMER COLLEGIATE ATHLETE AND VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT VOLLEYBALL.
UM, YES, SO LIKE MY BACKGROUND IS IN VOLLEYBALL.
I PLAYED COLLEGIATE VOLLEYBALL.
UM, THIS FACILITY, THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THAT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THE CLOSEST THING TO IT IS SIDE LINERS, WHICH I'M, YOU KNOW, IS MORE OF A RESTAURANT WITH OUTDOOR COURTS.
UM, WHAT OUR PARTNER WHO HAS, UM, IS A BUSINESS PARTNER OF OURS AND A CONSULTANT, HE HAS TWO FACILITIES IN SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH.
SO HE'S THE ONE WHO WE'VE VISITED HIS SITE AND HAVE DONE AN ONSITE, YOU KNOW, TOUR AND VISITED WITH HIM.
WE'VE ALSO DID AN ONSITE TOUR WITH, UH, THE SAME EXACT CONCEPT WITH A GUY IN, UH, HIS PARTNER WHO OWN IT IN BOSTON.
SO WE'VE BEEN TO THOSE BEFORE.
UM, BUT BEACH VOLLEYBALL IS OBVIOUSLY A GROWING SPORT AND TEXAS IS VERY, HAS A LOT OF BEACH VOLLEYBALL PROGRAMS WITHIN CLUBS AND HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGIATELY NOW.
SO JUST WITH THE GROWTH OF THE SPORT OVERALL, THIS CONCEPT WAS BUILT WITH MY BACKGROUND IN VOLLEYBALL.
SO QUESTION, SO OUTSIDE'S GONNA BE SAND CORRECT? INSIDE IS SAND AS WELL.
SO IT'S AN INDOOR OUTDOOR BEACH VOLLEYBALL FACILITY.
AND WILL YOU GUYS BE SERVING FOOD AND NOPE.
IT'LL JUST BE STRAIGHT CONCESSIONS, KIND OF GRAB AND GO, BUT IT WILL NOT BE A RESTAURANT RUN TYPE AT ALL.
SO IT'S MAINLY FOR JUST THE BEER AND WINE AND THEN KIND OF GRAB AND GO, UH, MAYBE LIKE CONCESSION STANDS IS WHAT YOU WANNA CALL IT.
UM, BUT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY TYPE OF FOOD OR RESTAURANT TYPE BUSINESS RUNNING ON THE INSIDE.
IT'S STRICTLY FOR BEACH VOLLEYBALL.
UH, AND QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SO I'M ASSUMING THE CD DOES C TWO CD, THERE'RE BARRING FROM C3, THE BAR AND TAVERN ASPECT OF IT.
IS THAT WHAT IT IS? UH, SO AGAIN, UM, JUST TO, IT IS SAYS C TWO S, SO A SPECIFICS USE C EXCUSE ME, NOT THE CD, BUT, UM, YES, THEY GET RID OF THE C3 BASED UP, SO THEY CANNOT DO TYPICAL USES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN A C3.
UH, BUT DID THAT ANSWER? YES, I THINK SO.
BUT IF THEY WOULD EVER MOVE ON, MAYBE THEY GOT BIGGER AND THEY MOVE ON TO A BIGGER FACILITY AND THEY SOLD THE FAC, UH, THE AREA OR THE, THE, THE LAND.
TECHNICALLY THIS COULD BECOME A BAR IN TAVERN.
REMIND ME WHY? BECAUSE IT'S DOWN ZONING TO A C TWO BASE ZONE AND A BAR IS NOT PERMITTED IN A C TWO.
BUT THE ALCOHOL SALES, HOW IS THAT PERMITTED? WELL, THERE'S C3 NA RIGHT NOW MM-HMM
SO THAT MEANS NO ALCOHOL SALES.
SO TECHNICALLY A BAR CAN'T OPEN RIGHT NOW.
BUT, UM, WELL, REMIND ME IF THEY'RE A C TWO THOUGH, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SELL ALCOHOL.
LIKE OTHER USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN A C TWO, LIKE A RESTAURANT OR, YOU KNOW, CONCESSION STANDS, WHATNOT.
NO, I'M SORRY IF I WAS CONFUSED, SO NO, NO, NO, NO.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AROUND THE HORN AGAIN.
UH, YES, COMMISSIONER VE AND THEN COMMISSIONER LAWS, UH, TO STAFF.
COULD WE GET, UH, GOOGLE STREET VIEW OF THE, UH, UNION PACIFIC LINE WHEN IT CROSSES OVER CLAWSON, YOU KNOW, DROP THE LITTLE DANGLY GUY ON IT.
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ALRIGHT.YEAH, LET'S SCOOT UP A LITTLE BIT JUST TO SEE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER ON THE TRACKS.
SO TO COMMISSIONER HUEY'S POINT, WELL, YEAH, WELL, WELL TAKEN.
UH, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY YOU WANT TO GO 180 DEGREES TO WHERE, UH, YEAH, THERE WE GO.
SO LOOK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET THOUGH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE SIDE FOLKS WOULD BE POTENTIALLY WALKING ACROSS FROM THE OTHER PARKING LOT.
UM, CAN YOU JUST DRAG IT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE SO WE CAN SEE THE OTHER SIDE? OH, PLEASE.
OTHER WAY, OTHER WAY, OTHER WAY.
SO THE, UH, UH, IS THERE, WITH THE S ARE THERE ANY, UH, CONTROLS WE CAN DO ABOUT LIMITING PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ALONG CLAWSON ROAD? LIKE, UH, WITH THE S OR IS THERE A WAY THAT THE CITY COULD PUT UP SIGNS THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, NO WALKING OR SOMETHING? IT JUST, UH, PARTICULARLY FROM THE VIEW LOOKING NORTHBOUND, UM, UM, SO ANOTHER 90 DEGREES TO THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MEDIAN, OR NOT THE MEDIAN, BUT THE, UH, UH, SHOULDER BETWEEN WHERE THE LANES ARE PRETTY NARROW AS THEY APPROACH THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
SO JUST LIKE I COULD SEE A CONCERN IN THE FUTURE, A BIG, UH, UH, BIG COMPETITION, A LOT OF FOLKS PARKING IN ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS, UM, I COULD FORESEE THAT BEING A SAFETY ISSUE.
SO IS THERE ANY WAY, MAYBE NOT EVEN ADDRESSED THROUGH THE S BUT THROUGH SOME OTHER CITY DEPARTMENT, TYPICALLY WE CANNOT ADD CONDITIONS ON ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, WITH THE T WOULD WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO IMPOSE REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO OFFSITE PARKING TO REQUIRE SHUTTLE USE? AGAIN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
EVEN IF THEY HAD THAT AGREEMENT, WE COULDN'T ENFORCE CONDITIONS ON THAT.
I GUESS A QUESTION TO, TO THE APPLICANT WHILE STAFF IS DISCUSSING IT.
COMMISSIONER, COULD YOU GIVE THANK, GIVE US SOME ASSURANCES? YES, SIR.
IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF, OF MY CLIENT'S, UH, BUSINESS AND ALSO OF THE LIVELIHOOD OF THEIR PATRONS THAT EVERYONE IS CAREFUL.
AND SO THEY'RE TAKING INTO DEEP CONSIDERATION A NUMBER OF SHUTTLES, BUT ALSO NOTICE ON THE PROPERTY OF, OF WHAT IS GOING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WILL BE CROSSING AS THEY WALK BACK IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
THE, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO ENCOURAGE OR ALLOW FOLKS TO WALK BACK TO THEIR CARS.
THERE WILL BE SHUTTLES AVAILABLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA ASK MR. WELCH.
SO GO, GO AHEAD AND WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WELL, I'VE LIVED IN THE AREA FOR 30 YEARS.
IN FACT, THIS IS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD.
THERE IS A BIG CONCERN RIGHT HERE CROSSING, BECAUSE BASICALLY YOU'RE ASKING TRAFFIC, UH, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE RIGHT NOW,
SO THEIR ENTRANCE IS RIGHT UP AGAINST THE, THE SAFETY PYLONS ON THE, ON THE SOUTH NORTH SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
AND PART OF THAT PROPERTY IS, UH, BLOCKED BY THE GUARDRAILS FROM THE BRIDGE WHERE TRIBUTARY F RUNS UNDERNEATH.
SO THE THING, OUR BIG CONCERN IS, NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE LOTS OF FREIGHT TRAINS COMING THROUGH THERE, THREE MILES LONG, SOME TWO MILES LONG SOMETIMES.
AND THE TRAFFIC BUILDS UP WAITING TO PASS STALL ROAD PAST BRIARCREST, DOWN CLAWSON WAITING FOR THOSE TO OPEN UP.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE UTILIZING THIS OFFSITE PARKING, THEY'RE HAVING TO STAND THERE AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS WAITING TO CROSS WITHOUT SIDEWALKS.
THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING IN MY, IN MY PREPARED STATEMENTS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO LOOK AT TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE BECAUSE WE NOT ONLY HAVE EXTENDED FREEZING HAM PARK ALL THE WAY TO CLAWSON WITH A BRAND NEW
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LITTLE SIX, UH, SPACE PARKING AREA AND ACCESS, BUT NOW WE HAVE BOOKING SHIFTS.AND SO THE THING IS THAT'S CREATED A LOT MORE TRAFFIC FOR OUR PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMING UP RIGHT ACROSS TO GO TO FRIES HUNT.
BUT IF THERE WERE MORE, UH, SAFE, UH, WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY, UM, SIDEWALKS THROUGH THAT AREA, THEN THERE MAY EVEN BE MORE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT WOULD GO ALONG AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND EVEN, UH, THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS.
I SEE THE TIMER RUNNING THERE, SO I'M JUST GONNA ASK STAFF.
UH, ANY THOUGHTS? SO LOOKING AT THAT, WE CAN'T REALLY, I MEAN, WE COULD REGULATE SIGNS, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE THEM DO CONTENT.
LIKE WE CANNOT REGULATE THE CONTENT.
AND THEN ALSO AGAIN, WE CANNOT ADD REGULATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO IF THEY WERE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND THIS NE THIS NEIGHBORING PROPERTY BUILDS THAT, WE CAN'T TELL THEM, WE CAN'T ENFORCE THOSE REGULATIONS FROM THAT ZONING ON.
UM, SO WHAT ELSE WERE YOU SAYING? I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE APPLICANT COULD ALSO, UM, POTENTIALLY REQUEST QUIET ZONES.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS A LOT AROUND RAILROAD TRACKS.
I DON'T, BUT THAT WOULD JUST BE OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING REQUEST.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THAT DIVIDER'S THERE, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR REQUIRED.
I, SORRY, I THINK WE'RE OUT OF TIME WITH YOU.
I GAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I ASKED YOU TO TALK TO WELCH.
ANY LO COMMISSIONER LO, YOU'RE GOOD? ANY QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER.
WHAT I REALLY KIND OF MAY BACK TO STAFF, UM, PARKING, THE PARKING THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED FOR THE SITE AS LAID OUT IS ADEQUATE PER CODE.
I COULD NOT CONFIRM THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE REGULATED AT PERMITTING TIME WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE SUBMITTED.
BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE, UH, FINAL ARCHITECTURAL PLANS THAT THEY COULD, UM, RESOLVE THAT.
AND ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES COME AFTER ALL OF THAT.
ONCE THEY'RE, WE CAN'T MAKE OUR ZONING SUBJECT TO SOME TRAFFIC STUDY.
TRAFFIC STUDY DOES COME AT PERMITTING STAGE.
ANY ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT QUESTIONS RIGHT? YES.
COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA? UH, THE QUESTION I HAVE WAS, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S NOT ZONING QUESTIONS, IT'S MORE BUSINESS QUESTIONS.
BUT THE ONE I DO HAVE IS THEY HAD MENTIONED OUTSIDE LIGHTING FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR SAND VOLLEYBALL STUFF.
CAN WE, OR IS THAT INCLUDED? CAN WE REQUIRE DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING? SO JUST SO KEEP THE LIGHT POLLUTION AWAY? YES.
UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION, WE CAN ADD CONDITIONS AND THAT IS AN ITEM THAT IS OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THAT, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
THAT WILL BE UP TO THE COMMISSIONER.
UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
CAN YOU EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR SITE PLAN WHERE THIS POND AREA IS? UH, YES.
THAT'S WHERE WE WILL PLACE THE DETENTION FEATURE FOR, FOR THE FLOODPLAIN AREA.
SO EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO PUT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON THERE, YOU COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S CORRECT.
BRIEFLY, MS. MCDONALD, UH, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH ME, UH, THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, TO YOUR CLIENT'S INTEREST TO GET THE CITY TO HELP WITH PEDESTRIAN THOROUGHFARES, UH, FROM YOUR PARKING EXTENDING THAT SIDEWALK THAT'S PARTIALLY THERE, WHERE THE PUTATIVE PARKING ROOM'S GONNA BE TO YOUR PROPERTY? YES, SIR.
AND WE, WE ARE DISCUSSING THAT WITH THE DISTRICT 10 OFFICE AT THIS TIME.
AND WOULD YOU AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE BOUND BY THE SITE PLAN, MAYBE HAVE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER RIGHT THERE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WALK UP THE STREET TO COME IN AT THE DRIVEWAY? YES, SIR.
DISCUSSION IS NOW OVER, I'M SORRY.
COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S A DISCUSSION AND MOTION? UM, IT IS CHALLENGING WITH THE TRAFFIC, UH, ACCESS.
SO ANYBODY COMING IN THERE TO DEVELOP THIS SITE'S GONNA BE FACED WITH THIS ISSUE.
IT'S GONNA IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT, UH, DRIVABILITY.
UM, I THINK THAT, UH, THIS IS A PROBABLY A
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GOOD, UH, RELATED USE FOR WHAT IS PARKLAND ALONG THERE.IT'S, IT'S, AT TIMES IT'LL BE, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE CAR REPAIR AND A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD BE CHALLENGING AND NOT NECESSARILY AS, UH, CONDUCIVE BEING NEXT TO A PARK.
UM, I'M GONNA MOVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE AN ADDITION OF DOWNWARD LIGHTING AND, UM, ULTIMATELY, UH, I'VE TALKED WITH COUNSEL, UH, MEMBER AND, UH, THEY GENERALLY SUPPORT THIS.
I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO CONTINUE TO TALK WITH HIM BECAUSE HE'S THE FINAL DECISION.
UH, AND HE'S NOT GONNA SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT ULTIMATELY IS A PROBLEM.
BUT I, AS IT STANDS, UH, I'M GOOD WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE WITH THE CONDITION OF DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING? YES.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PANA OR YEAH, WE'LL GO WITH COMMISSIONER PANA.
UM, THE, THE USE OF THIS PROPERTY FOR SUCH AN ACT FOR SUCH A FACILITY MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE, BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT, UM, MR. THE SAFETY OF THE PARTICIPANTS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS SAY, WELL, IT'S UP TO THE CONSUMERS TO DECIDE THAT THEY WANNA WALK ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACK.
BUT AGAIN, WE AS ZONING COMMISSIONERS SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE GOING TO WAVE OR IGNORE SOME OF THESE DANGEROUS OBSTACLES LIKE WALKING ACROSS A RAILROAD TRACK OR WALKING ACROSS, OR WALKING ALONG THE SIDE OF A ROAD WITHOUT THE SIDEWALK.
SO AS MUCH AS I WANT TO SUPPORT IT, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
COMMISSIONER PAUP, UH, I GREW UP VERY CLOSE TO THIS SITE, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS GOING UP IN AN AREA THAT'S FILLED WITH, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND IT'S A GREAT ADDITION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE THAT WE HAVE OVER, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS ON STALL ROAD.
I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT YOU CONSIDER YOUR OVERFLOW PARKING NORTH TOWARDS NOLL CREEK.
I DID SEE THAT THERE WERE SOME BUSINESSES UP THAT WAY AND, UH, I'LL BE SUPPORTING.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PUNNETT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? TO MY RIGHT.
UM, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF THE PROPERTY.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT, AND I'M GONNA HATE USING THIS WORD, UH, THAT BETWEEN THAT AND THE NEW PARK AND THE EXTENSION OF FRIESEN HALL PARK, UH, THAT THERE CAN BE SOME SYNERGISTIC BENEFITS FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE ARE A ZONING COMMISSION, SO WE HAVE LIMITED ABILITIES TO PUT IN RESTRICTIONS, BUT I KNOW THAT MS. MCDONALD MENTIONED THAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING DEED RESTRICTIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM.
CITY CAN'T ENFORCE 'EM, BUT, BUT Y'ALL CAN GET THOSE PRIVATELY.
SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING, UH, THE MOTION.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION OF DOWNWARD FACING LIGHTING BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PANA.
COMMISSIONER PEDRO RODRIGUEZ? YES.
YOU'RE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL SEPTEMBER 3RD.
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THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE JULY 21ST.ANY CHANGES? AMENDMENTS, QUIBBLES.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER WHITSETT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
I SAW HIM BACK UP FROM THE MICROPHONE.
UH, THIS CAN BE DONE BY ACCLAMATION.
AYE, ABSTAIN AND THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
IS THERE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? UH, NO DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
UH, IN THAT CASE, THE TIME IS 2 0 9.
THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO
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IS ADJOURNED.