* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] DOES IT? GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, WELCOME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, FOR WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12TH, 2026. THE STAFF PLEASE CONDUCT ROLL CALL. THANKS. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ZUKI PRESENT. COMMISSIONER MILLER PRESENT. COMMISSIONER WALLER. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ORIAN PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BUS. HERE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? HERE. COMMISSIONER PROPHET PRESENT. MCCORMICK IS PRESENT. OKAY, THANK YOU. CAN WE PLEASE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION SERVICES? WE ARE. THANK YOU. UH, [Plats  ] TODAY WE WILL HAVE TWO AGENDAS. THE FIRST BEING A CONSENT AGENDA. ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE CONSIDERED, UH, DISCUSSIONS AND MOTION. ONE MOTION AND ONE ACTION WILL BE TAKEN BY THE COMMISSION. THE REMAINING ITEMS WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY AND ACTED ON INDIVIDUALLY. SO FOR TODAY, THE ALL ITEMS ARE ON CONSENT WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF ITEMS NUMBER 20, 21, 23, 24, 25, 28, AND 33. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND FOR RECUSAL PURPOSES, COMMISSIONERS BUS AND ORIAN ARE STEPPING OUT. AND THAT WOULD BE RELATED TO ITEMS CHAIR. UH, WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY SIGN, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, OR TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR ITEM 29. DO YOU WANNA PULL THAT FOR INDIVIDUAL? NOT THAT THEY'RE OPPOSED. THEY'RE OPPOSED. YES. SO 29 WILL BE INDIVIDUAL. OKAY. SO COMMISSIONERS BUSTANI AND ORIAN HAVE LEFT. IT'S TWO 11 OH OH, THE RECUSALS. YEAH. SO, UH, C COMMISSIONER BUSTANI IS RECUSING FROM 10 12, 14, 17 AND ORIAN FROM 33 TO BE. OKAY. SO RELATED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE STILL HAVE QUORUM. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION, COMMENTS? IF NOT A MOTION? MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT. SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE. AND SECOND, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ON CONSENT ITEM. APOLOGIES. YEAH. ITEM NUMBER 34. UH, DOUG WELCH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OH, YOU, I THOUGHT THAT NUMBER 38, SORRY. OH, ARE YOU ON? I'M FOR CLAWSON ROAD. THAT'S 34. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S 34. YOU'RE RIGHT. FOUR. AND THEN JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. OKAY. UM, MY NAME'S DOUG WELCH AND MY ADDRESS IS 14 4 0 3 BRIAR MALL. AND, UH, I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE WICK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. OUR SUBDIVISION IS 300 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY, SEPARATED ONLY BY A, UH, TREE LINE PROPERTY BORDERS LAND. RECENTLY ACQUIRED BY CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND A NEWLY ESTABLISHED LINEAR PARK. LAST WEEK I WAS HERE AT ZONING. UH, SPEAKING OF THE CONCERNS OF NOISE AND NUISANCE, WE'RE NOW IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE APPLICANTS TO MINIMIZE LOUD NOISE AND LATE NIGHT USE OF THE COURTS DURING NEIGHBORHOOD QUIET HOURS. UH, BUT TODAY I WISH TO CALL ATTENTION TO TRAFFIC SAFETY AND THE OVERFLOWING OFFSITE PARKING. THE FIR DO YOU HAVE MY IMAGES? YES. OKAY. SO I'VE GOT PHOTOGRAPHS I TOOK, UH, THIS IS THE SECOND SECTION OF IT, BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING THERE IS, UH, AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS OFFSITE PARKING FOR THE, UH, VOLLEYBALL, WHICH IS THIS AREA IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, MEANING THAT ANYBODY THAT IS UTILIZING THAT PARKING HAS TO CROSS BY FOOT OVER THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS WHERE THERE'S MINIMAL SIDEWALK AND A PRETTY DANGEROUS SITUATION. [00:05:01] YOU CAN KEEP SCROLLING. UH, THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO THIS FIRST ONE SHOWS, UH, THE RAILROAD TRACK CROSSING AND THE, UM, THE PYLONS, UH, THE DELINEATORS THAT THEY USE, UH, DOWN THE MIDDLE OF CLAWSON THAT EXTEND ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET ACROSS THE PROPERTY LINE, UH, IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY LINE IN RILL. UH, THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA. YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A, THE YELLOW SIGN RIGHT THERE FOR THE REZONING, UH, OF THAT PROPERTY. AND YOU'LL NOTICE AT THE END OF THE PYLONS THERE IS A, UM, A GUARDRAIL THAT'S OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT, THAT IS OVER, UH, THE DRAINAGE CULBERT THAT GOES ACROSS. SO SCROLL AGAIN. SO THIS SHOWS YOU, UH, AN IDEA OF EXACTLY HOW CLOSE THE END OF THAT IS. TWO, IT'S ABOUT A 40 FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN THE GUARDRAIL AND THE BE, UH, THE END OF THE PYLONS, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE. SO THIS IS, LOOK, THIS IS ON THE AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THEY'RE PLANNING FOR PEOPLE TO GO ACROSS FOR OVERSIGHT PARKING. AND, UH, WE'RE CONCERNED IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT'S TIME, SIR. THAT'S MY THREE MINUTES. YES. OKAY. JUST QUICK. ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST THIS PLAN? WE'RE LEANING AGAINST BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION, BUT I'M REALLY, WE'RE REALLY NOT FOR, WE HAVEN'T MADE THAT DECISION YET. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND ASK FOR TIAI WAS IT CONTINUOUS NO IMPACT YEAH. FOR THAT AREA BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS SO DIFFERENT. OKAY. AND, UH, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE OFFSITE PARKING ALONG THE ROAD YES, SIR. AND, UH, IN THE PARKS AND ON OUR STREETS. OKAY. UH, QUICKLY STAFF THAT IS, WILL BE PART OF THE PLATING PROCESS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. SO THEY WILL, AT THE TIME THAT THE PLAT IS FILED, THEY'LL DO TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND ANYTHING THAT THEY DETERMINE NEEDS TO BE DONE WILL BE DONE THEN. SO WILL THAT BE BEFORE OR AFTER COUNCIL MAKES THE MOVE AFTER? I THINK IF THIS, YEAH, THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND ZONING WOULD GO BEFORE COUNCIL FIRST. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE PLAN THAT, UM, SHOWS ANY PARKING AREAS? WELL, WE'RE STILL ON THE CONSENT, SO, UH, LET'S, YEAH, IT'S UP TO, IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO PULL IT TO HERE INDIVIDUALLY AND THE COMMISSIONERS CAN, I THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA BE HERE TO PRESENT THEIR SITE PLAN, BUT EVIDENTLY NOT. SO, SO TODAY WHAT'S BEFORE THE COMMISSION IS A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE REQUESTED LAND USE CHANGE IS APPROPRIATE. A SITE PLAN WILL NOT BE PART OF THE ANALYSIS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT, THAT GOES TO ZONING COMMISSION. YEAH. MY FIRST RODEO. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. UH, AND THEN WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE TO SIGN UP RELATED TO THE PLAT ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. UM, JUST QUICKLY FOR STAFF, UH, THE PLATS IN QUESTION MEETS ALL THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, UH, IN REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC, THAT IT'S TECHNICALLY CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. AND BY STATUTE, THIS BODY CAN'T REJECT A PLAT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO, UH, BUT THE PEOPLE HERE FOR NUMBER EIGHT. DO YOU STILL WANNA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE HAVE ANN MCGINNIS. I HAVE SOME HAND, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE. IT WAS BASICALLY, UM, MR. MICROPHONE. MY NAME'S ANN MCGINNIS. OOPS. ANN MCGINNIS. IS IT THAT? OKAY. AND I, UM, I OWN 7 49 CREST HILL AND I RESIDE AT SEVEN 50 CREST HILL ROAD. AND, UM, CREST CREST HILL ROAD IS, UM, I BACK UP TO THE PROPOSED, UM, DEVELOPMENT AND MY, UM, I'M CONCERNED, UH, FOR INCREASING THE PLAT TO 72 LOTS BECAUSE IT WAS, WE WERE JUST GETTING USED TO A RUMORED 55 LOTS [00:10:01] FROM THE PAST, UM, ZONING REVIEW SEVERAL YEARS AGO. AND, UH, I CONCERNED THAT HAVING 72 LOTS AND THOSE DAILY TRIPS ALL EMPTYING OUT ONTO A TWO LANE ASPHALT ROAD, WHICH IS HOME GREEN, UH, CREATES BOTTLENECKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT, ON THE NORTH END OF HOME GREEN. IT'S CARROLL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND, UH, SO WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF PEAK TRAFFIC, UM, PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC. AND SO, UM, IN MY MAIN CONCERN IS JUST THE VOLUME OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA EMPTY AND THAT THOSE TWO ACCESS POINTS TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE PROPOSED 72 LOTS. UM, THERE'S NO DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE. IT'S A TWO LANE ASPHALT AND NO DESAL LANE PROPOSED. IN FACT, THERE'S EVEN, UM, SEVERAL LOTS TO THE SOUTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT BACK OUT ON, I MEAN THAT EMPTY OUT ONTO HOME GREEN DIRECTLY. SO THAT'S MY, UM, MY CONCERN IS JUST THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT'S BEING, UM, THAT'LL BE GENERATED. THANK YOU. UH, ED MCGINNIS? YEAH. HELLO. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS ED MCINNIS. I LIVE AT 7 5 5. I OWN AND LIVE AT 7 5 5 CREST HILL. THAT IS NOT THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR ITEM EIGHT. THAT'S NOT THE DRAWINGS THAT GO WITH THIS PROPERTY. AND, UH, OKAY. AND THOSE DRAWINGS THERE, THEY GIVE YOU A REALLY FALSE IDEA OF HOW DENSE THIS PLACE IS GONNA BE. THERE ARE THREE DRAWINGS THAT ALL HAVE TO BE PIECED TOGETHER ON THE JOINT LINES FOR YOU TO GET AN IDEA OF IT. JUST HOW MANY LOTS THEY'RE GONNA SQUEEZE INTO THIS LITTLE BITTY AREA. OKAY? AND, UH, THAT'S GOING TO PRO, UH, CREATE A WHOLE LOT OF DENSITY, WHICH, UH, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UM, IS REALLY GONNA SUFFER BY IF IT GETS BUILT OUT TO THAT KIND. IF YOU CAN SCROLL UP, YOU CAN GET TO THE OTHER DRAWINGS. THAT'S JUST ONE. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT HOOKS ONTO THE END OF THAT ONE. YOU SEE HOW THE CUL-DE-SAC GOES, RIGHT? AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT HOOKS ONTO THE BOTTOM END OF ALL THAT. AND YOU'VE GOT SOME THREE LOTS RIGHT THERE ON THAT EDGE. THEY DUMP OUT ONTO HUNG GREEN ROAD. THAT'S GONNA CREATE EVEN A BIGGER TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND ALL THE TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE COMING OUT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, OKAY? IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT NOTICES WERE ONLY SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IF THAT LIMIT WERE TO BE EXPANDED TO A QUARTER MILE, THERE'D BE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE. THERE'D BE OVERFLOWING. THERE ARE, UH, AND THE COMMENTS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE GETTING IN EMAILS AND WRITTEN COMMENTS WOULD BE OVERWHELMING. YOU'D HAVE A TOUGH TIME JUST DIGGING THROUGH 'EM ALL. AND IF YOU HAVE ON RECORD THE AMOUNT OF RESPONSE THAT THIS PROJECT BROUGHT LAST TIME FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS, THEN YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WE KIND OF TOOK OVER THE PLACE. AND, UH, SO IN THE COMMENTS AS YOU HEAR, THEY SAY, KEEP IN MIND THAT MY COMMENTS ARE PROB YOU CAN PROBABLY MULTIPLY 'EM BY A HUNDRED FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY CONCERNED AND COULDN'T BE HERE. WE HAVE SOME PRETTY CONS, PRETTY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE INCREASED DENSITY, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE GOING TRAFFIC, UH, UH, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC COMING BACK THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IF IT WERE SOME WAY TO MAKE IT INCONVENIENT FOR TRAFFIC TO COME BACK UP HOME GREEN INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'D BE GREAT BECAUSE JUST 50 YARDS OR SO AWAY FROM THIS ENTRANCE TO THIS PLACE, THERE'S A BLIND CORNER AND A BLIND HILL. AND THAT'S BEEN THE SCENE OF MANY REALLY BAD TRAFFIC EXITS OVER THE YEARS. EVEN AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WHEN I'M GOING TO WORK, I HAVE TO STOP AND MAKE SURE I LOOK AND EASE OUT SLOWLY BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY COMING UP THERE, ALWAYS SOMEBODY COME UP THERE, OKAY? THERE'S ALREADY SPEED BUMPS FURTHER UP HUNG GREEN, BUT PEOPLE COME DOWN OUR STREET, CREST HILL AND AROUND THE CORNER AND RACER TO AVOID THE SPEED BUMPS PEOPLE ROARING UP THROUGH THERE ALL TIMES OF NIGHT AND DAY. AND THAT'S JUST GONNA GET WORSE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT MUCH RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A SCHOOL RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, THERE'S A SCHOOL ZONE THERE THAT'S ALREADY CREATING A LOT OF TRAFFIC DURING THE SCHOOL SEASON, OKAY? AND SO ALREADY WE'RE ALREADY PACKED UP DENSE, IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE DRAWINGS THEY'VE GOT THEIR, THEIR LOTS ALL, YOU KNOW, DONE TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE R FIVE ZONING INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SQUEEZE SOMETHING IN LIKE THE LAST GUY WAS. BUT THINK ABOUT IT, 50 FEET. HERE WE GO. THAT'S 50 FEET. THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR STREET FRONTAGE. SARAH, PLEASE KEEP SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE. OKAY? THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR STREET FRONTAGE OVER THERE. AND, UH, UH, THAT'S NOT MUCH TO PARK ON. THE OFF STREET PARKING PROBLEM IS GONNA BE HORRENDOUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S THREE MINUTES. OKAY. OKAY, I'LL STOP. NEXT, UH, INDIVIDUAL WILL BE HEARD IS SHARE CONTRERAS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. UH, 1 35 [00:15:01] HOME GREEN. AND SO, UH, MY CONCERN, IF YOU COULD SCROLL UP A LITTLE OR SCROLL DOWN, ACTUALLY SCROLL. UM, SO I'M GONNA GO THE OTHER WAY, THE OTHER WAY. UM, SO I LIVE RIGHT WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT CUL-DE-SAC, I'M HOPING THERE'S GONNA BE SOME KIND OF SPEED SOMETHING THERE BECAUSE, UH, IN THE 30 YEARS I'VE LIVED THERE, THEY'VE TAKEN OUT MY MAILBOX THREE TIMES. THEY'VE ALSO HIT MY TREE ONCE, UH, CAR LANDED UP UPSIDE DOWN IN MY YARD, UH, JUST COMING ON HOME GREEN, LIKE HE SAID, THE BLIND, UH, CURRENT. SO MY CONCERN IS MY DRIVEWAY IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF LE LE RAY. SO PICTURE MY HOUSE BEING THERE. UH, MY CONCERN IS SPEED BECAUSE I HAVE A GRANDCHILD WHO LIVES WITH ME. AND THEN MY NEIGHBOR HAS A YOUNG CHILD, UH, WHO PLAYS IN THE FRONT YARD. SO I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME KIND OF SPEED, SOMETHING. I WAS HOPING ACTUALLY THAT THE EXIT WOULD BE ON BOULDER, THE ENTRANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION, BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, HEADLIGHTS IN MY DRIVEWAY IN MY FRONT, YOU KNOW, COME THE WAY. IT'S JUST BAD DESIGN COMING RIGHT INTO MY FRONT WINDOW. EVERY, EVERY, YOU KNOW, DAY AND NIGHT, YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES WITH THE SUBDIVISION. SO MY CONCERN WAS, I, I DON'T LIKE THAT LONG STRAIGHTAWAY WITH DRUNK DRIVERS, SPEEDERS, YOUNG KIDS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY MY CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND THE SUBDIVISION IS ALREADY THERE TO STAY, BUT I'M HOPING SOMETHING CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT THAT, JUST FOR SAFETY REASONS FOR SPADING. AND THAT'S MY 2 CENTS WORTH. SO I'M JUST, UH, LIKE I SAID, AND, UH, THE TRAFFIC AGAIN, EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED IS TRAFFIC. 'CAUSE IT'S ALREADY A VERY SMALL ROAD. AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT SOMETHING'S DONE WITH THE TRAFFIC. THERE'S NO SIDEWALK WALK ON MY STREET. LIKE I SAID, WE'VE, UH, I HAVE MY GRANDSON ALMOST HIT AT THE MAILBOX ONCE, SO WE, WE DON'T ALLOW OUR KIDS TO GO TO THE MAILBOX. SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, CASSIDY KELLER. HI, I AM CASIE KELLER, AND I LIVE ON 1 2 5 HOME GREEN. OKAY. THE PER THE PROPOSED STREET RUNS RIGHT INTO OUR FRONT YARD WHERE NEIGHBORS WILL SHERA, OBVIOUSLY, UM, WITH NO SPREAD BREAK, NONE OF THAT'S SHOWING ON THE MAP AT ALL. UM, I'M CONCERNED FOR MY CHILD SAFETY. WE HAVE A, A YOUNG LITTLE BOY THAT PLAYS IN THE FRONT YARD WHOLEHEARTEDLY ALL THE TIME. , MY, UH, I'M ALSO CONCERNED FOR MY HOME SAFETY WITH DRUNK DRIVERS HEADLIGHTS SHINING THROUGH MY WINDOW THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. UM, WE JUST PUR PURCHASED THE HOUSE IN 2024, AND WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN ACCIDENTS ON HOME GREEN RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE, WHICH IS THE LAND THEY'RE BUILDING ON, NOT FIGHTING. WE'RE NOT FIGHTING THE IDEA OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WELCOME THE IDEA, BUT THE PROPERTY VALUE TO BE EQUAL TO OURS DOESN'T BRING THE WRONG PEOPLE AND OR LOWER OUR VALUE. WE JUST PURCHASED OUR HOUSE FOR 260,000 AND OUR FEAR IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD LOWER COST HOUSING, WHICH IN TURN WILL LOWER OUR VALUE. WE WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT OUR HOME KNOWING THAT THIS WOULD'VE BEEN THE OUTCOME, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY HAD THIS SENT OUT RIGHT BEFORE THE FIRST TIME, AND WE WEREN'T HERE. SO WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING AT ALL. UM, IDEALLY THE ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE ON BOULDER AVENUE THAT WOULD LOWER THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON HOME GREEN AND CREATE AN EASIER ENTRANCE FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS BEING RIGHT OFF OF THE RIGSBY AVENUE. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE HAD BAD ANIMAL DUMPING PROBLEMS, SPECIFICALLY OFF OF BOULDER AVENUE. LEAVING THIS LAND BEAR WILL ALLOW THAT PROBLEM TO CONTINUE. AND I DO HAVE QUESTIONS. IS THAT ALLOWED? THIS IS COMMON. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST, I I GUESS I'M JUST CONFUSED AS IF WE'RE, IF IT'S ALREADY IN SET IN MOTION AS SPEAKING ON THAT ROAD, THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THE ROAD IS GONNA BE THERE A HUNDRED PERCENT OR DOES WHAT WE SAY HAVE A MATTER? I'M SORRY. UH, AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE THE PLAT MEETS ALL THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS BY STATUTE, THIS, THIS COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE. YEAH, I, OKAY. STATE, STATE LAW ALLOWS CITIES TO CREATE RULES, BUT IF THE RULES ARE MET, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO APPROVE THE PLAT. THAT'S STATE LAW. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, YOUR CONCERNS ARE WELL INTENDED AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF TIAS HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT THAT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THINGS TO BE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, EITHER WITH STAFF HERE, CERTAINLY WITH YOUR CITY COUNCIL AND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS. OKAY. I THINK, YEAH, I GUESS THAT, THAT IS MY MAIN QUESTION IS AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, AS A COMMUNITY, WHAT WE CAN DO NOW TO HAVE THAT ROAD BE MOVED OR A BETTER PLAN. RIGHT? I I THINK JUST WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE COUNCIL DISTRICT AND, AND MAYBE THE PLANNER HERE CAN HELP YOU WITH SOME. OKAY. COOL. OKAY. WELL THAT'S MY, MY 2 CENTS. I HOPE Y'ALL HEAR ME. . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, THAT ENDS, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? WISH TO PULL ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM, I DO WANNA SAY ITEM, UM, 30 NEEDS TO BE PULLED TO INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE, SO I NEED TO READ THAT IN. I DON'T THINK YOU READ THAT AS ONE OF THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. I APOLOGIZE. YEAH, 30 WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY. [00:20:01] YEAH. OKAY. DO I GET EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW? SORRY. ALRIGHT. UM, IN FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT? A SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE. AND A SECOND. CAN WE CONDUCT A VOTE? COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER MILLER? YES. COMMISSIONER WALLER? YES. COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN ASK THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO RETURN, PLEASE. IT IS 2 29 AND COMMISSIONERS ORIAN AND BUSTANI HAVE RETURNED. ALL RIGHT. AND NOW WE'RE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 20. YEAH, 20. SO DO WE, DO WE NEED TO READ THAT IN FOR THE CONTINUANCE? WAIT, SAY BYE-BYE. WERE YOU GONNA ASK? YEAH. CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT CHAIR? WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? ITEM 20. ARE WE GONNA DO A PRESENTATION IF YOU'D LIKE? APPLICANTS ARE HERE. WE CAN, IT'S UP TO YOU. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S WHY HE'S UP THERE. OKAY. UH, WE'LL, ITEM 21. OKAY. UM, NEED, THEY NEED TO DO THE PRESENTATION FIRST. OKAY. WE'LL DO, RIGHT. YOU WANNA DO 20 OR 21? 21? WE'RE GONNA GO ORDER 21. OKAY. . SORRY. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, ITEM 21, UH, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS A VARIANCE, UH, FOR IRRIGATION. NEXT SLIDE. PLEASE CONTROL. I CAN CONTROL. HA HA. UM, FOR THIS VARIANCE, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 35 5 11 C SIX B IRRIGATION STATES THAT AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM WILL BE REQUIRED ON PROJECTS WHEN ANY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING ARE USED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CHAPTER. AN AREA GREATER THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET OF NEW LANDSCAPE, MORE THAN 10 TREES WILL BE INSTALLED PROJECTS WHICH EXCEED 4,300 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE HARDSHIP AS EXPRESSED BY THE APPLICANT. DUE TO EXISTING SOIL CONDITIONS AREA FOR LANDSCAPING AND FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, THE OWNER IS UNABLE TO INSTALL THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING IRRIGATION SYSTEM. DSD STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO RA WAIVE THE LANDSCAPING IRRIGATION REQUIREMENTS. AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS REQUIRED TO SUSTAIN LANDSCAPE PLANTINGS. THE PROPOSED VARIANCE FAILS TO MEET THE INTENT AND SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE. STAFF IS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY A UNIQUE HARDSHIP RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. THANK YOU. UH, APPLICANT HAVE PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. YOU HAVE LINE UP 21. YEAH. KEN BROWN. UH, 100 NORTHEAST LOU FOUR 10, SUITE 1385. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ALL FIVE OF THESE, AND I, THE REASON WHY WE SWITCHED AROUND, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE FROM BILL MILLER WERE ITEM 20, WERE IN THE SAME EXACT SORT OF SITUATION. SO WE PROBABLY JUST SAY IT ONCE, UH, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE SAID IN THE WORK SESSION THAT I, I DON'T WANT YOU THINKING ABOUT FOR TWO WEEKS. OKAY. NUMBER ONE, UM, OKAY. I DIDN'T THINK I NEEDED TO PUT THIS IN THERE. UH, THIS IS ON THE SAS WEBPAGE. UH, IT'S THE, UH, DESIGN IRRIGATION DESIGN REBATE PROGRAM FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. UH, WE'VE USED IT 23 OR FOUR TIMES. UH, I THINK, UH, BILL MILLER HAS DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR. UM, I I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. [00:25:01] UH, WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS, UH, WE HA AND WE HAVE A LETTER FROM SAS. UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 26 RESTAURANTS, UH, 23 OF THEM, UM, WERE BUILT BEFORE, UH, THE, THE PROGRAM. AND SO, UM, WE GOT WITH SAS AND SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE TAKEN OUT, THEY PAID US TO TAKE OUT THE, THE SYSTEMS AND WE PLANTED, UH, ZEROSCAPING OR DROUGHT RESISTANCE, UH, UH, GRASSES AND LANDSCAPING THAT MEET, THAT MEET THE ORDINANCE. UM, THAT NO VARIANCES IN THAT REGARD. WE'VE DONE THAT. BILL MILLER HAS DONE THAT. ALSO, UH, UP UNTIL ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, UH, WE HAD RECEIVED THREE VEERS, UH, FOR THE SAME THING TO, TO NOT INSTALL THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM. UH, BECAUSE WE WERE PLANTING NATIVE, NATIVE GRASSES. UH, WE ENTERED INTO A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, UH, THAT WE WOULD HAND WATER AND, AND WATER THE TREES. UH, AND, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE SITES, UM, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE SITES WITHIN THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE THE REVOCATION OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY PRETTY SERIOUSLY AND FINES BY THE CITY. UH, THIS JUST WORKS BETTER. UH, THE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS ARE, ARE WASTEFUL. UH, THERE'S A SEPARATE METER FOR THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM. A TYPICAL WATER BILL, UM, FOR A SITE LIKE THIS IS ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS. IF WE HAVE A LEAK IN THE PIPE OR, OR ONE OF THE SPRINKLER HEADS IS BROKEN AND IT IS UNDETECTED, AND WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET THE NEXT BILL, IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND $4,000. AND THAT'S JUST WASTED WATER INTO THE GROUND. UH, WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS GONNA BE VERY COMMON SENSE. AND WE DO HAVE A SAUCE LETTER, UH, UP TO DATE LETTER IN OUR PACKET THAT SAYS, JUST, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT SAYS WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO REBATE, UH, ON THE REMOVAL OF BRAND NEW IRRIGATION SYSTEM. IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO NOT INSTALL THE SYSTEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. I, WE JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE COMMON SENSE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. WE, WE PLANT, UH, BOTH THE TREES AND, UH, UP TO CODE THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD MEET THE CANOPY REQUIREMENTS. WE PLANT THE, THE NATIVE OR THE DROUGHT RESISTANT, UH, PLANTS AND, AND SHRUBS. UM, I THINK BILL MILLER WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY ACTUALLY DO HOOK UP TO, 'CAUSE THEY'RE SEPARATE METERS FOR THE BUILDING AND THE IRRIGATION, AND THEY ACTUALLY HOOK IT UP AND THEY GET, UH, THE PLANTS AND THE TREES SET, AND THEN THEY JUST TURN 'EM OFF. YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONCEIVABLY $30,000 TO INSTALL A, YOU KNOW, A SYSTEM, UM, OF WHICH WE COULD PAY BACK WITHIN A YEAR WITH THE WATER BILLS. ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE LEAKS. UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE IN OTHER CITIES WHERE WE JUST NEVER HOOK IT UP. YOU KNOW, WE JUST START WITH THE WATER, YOU KNOW, WE SET 'EM AND, AND THEY'RE DROUGHT RESISTANT AND IT WORKS. UH, I THINK THERE'S A FLAW IN A, THE GOALS BETWEEN THE CITY AND SAWS. UH, BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THE WATER PRESERVATION SHOULD TAKE PRECEDENT. AND THAT'S REALLY WHY WE'RE HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, I DON'T THINK THEY KNEW THAT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN GETTING, UH, THESE THINGS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. AND I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, WE'RE JUST HERE TO SAY WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS PROGRAM FOR FOUR YEARS. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD, IF YOU MAKE US PUT 'EM IN, IF WE'LL RIP 'EM OUT AND TAKE THE $4,000 FROM SAWS. I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL DO THAT OR IF WE JUST WON'T TURN IT ON. YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY IT'S REALLY WASTEFUL AND SORT OF SILLY. UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND IT BETTER AND I AM FULL AGREEMENT WITH THAT. I JUST WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM WHILE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. UM, I THINK THIS IS ITEM 20. WELL, VERY SIMILAR. LET'S, UH, LET'S NOT, YEAH, LET'S, WE JUST DO, LET'S DO THESE ITEMS ONE AT A TIME. SO, UM, WELL, I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO APPROVE IT, YOU KNOW. RIGHT. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN SAY IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT TIME I COME UP HERE IN TWO WEEKS. RIGHT. I MEAN, UM, THERE ARE BAD ACTORS. WE'RE NOT ONE OF THEM. I MEAN, YOU CAN GO OUT TO ANY OF OUR SITES. WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED WITH SAWS, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY. WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION. WE TAKE THE MANAGEMENT PLAN SERIOUSLY. WE DO THE PLANNINGS ACCORDING TO CODE. WE COMPLY WITH THE TREE, UH, PRESERVATION AND CANOPY PORTION OF THE CODE. OUR SITES LOOK BETTER THAN THE IRRIGATE, THE IRRIGATED SITES WITH BROKEN PIPES [00:30:01] AND DEAD GRASS. I MEAN, IT'S JUST A BETTER WAY TO DO IT. AND IT'S BETTER FOR THE CITY. IT'S BETTER FOR THE AQUIFER. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, I'LL TAKE COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I'M WILLING TO, UH, VOTE ON THIS TODAY IF ANYBODY ELSE IS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE OWNER, JUST THE MAINTENANCE PLAN. 'CAUSE WE, WE, WE DO, UH, WHEN WE DO GET THESE REQUESTS, WE REALLY DON'T GET IN DETAIL AS FAR AS HOW, HOW IS IT GONNA BE WATER? WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, AND WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT DOES YOUR WATERING SCHEDULE LOOK LIKE? AND IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE MAINTAINED BY BILL MILLER'S STAFF? OR IS THIS CONTRACTED? CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT PLEASE? I THINK 21, WELL, HOLD ON. WE'RE WE'RE ON, WE'RE ON 21 COMMITTEE, YOUR HONOR. SORRY. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. WE MOVED AHEAD. SORRY. SORRY. WELL, WHAT IS, WHAT'S, HOW IS, HOW IS IHOP HANDLING THAT I, REGARDLESS OF HOW, HOW, HOW IS THE MAINTENANCE HANDLED THAT, AND IS THAT CONTRACTOR, IS THAT HANDLED BY, BY THE STAFF THAT WORKS THERE? CONSIDERING WE'RE IN STAGE THREE AND THERE IS ONLY A CERTAIN TIME YOU CAN WATER. SURE. HI EVERYONE, MY NAME IS YASMINE HAKEEM. UM, SO IT DEPENDS ON THE ACTUAL SITE. FOR EACH OF THE VARIANCES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, WE ENTER DIFFERENT, UH, MANAGEMENT AGREEMENTS, UH, BASED ON THE SITE AND THE AMOUNT OF, UM, LANDSCAPING ON SITE. SO I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE A LANDSCAPER THAT GOES OUT EVERY TWO WEEKS TO MAINTAIN THE ZEROSCAPE SITES. EVEN THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, THEY GO OUT TO MAINTAIN. BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, OUR STAFF TAKES CARE OF THE HAND WATERING. SO BASED ON THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, THEY ARE PUT ON A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE. SO SOME OF THEM ARE EVERY OTHER DAY. SOME OF THEM ARE MONDAY, TUESDAY, FRIDAY, BASED ON WHAT THOSE SPECIFICATIONS ARE. SO IT'S OUR STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THE HAND WATERING. THANK YOU. THANKS, COMMISSIONER. UH, I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT. ONE THING IS WHEN YOU'RE REMOVING, UM, IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, IT, IT TELLS ME THAT THOSE TREES ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT PLANNING ON PUTTING, UH, IRRIGATION SYSTEMS IN FROM THE START, AND THEN, UH, WHAT I SEE HAPPENING IS YOUNG TREES THAT ARE NOT, UM, ESTABLISHED WILL DIE IF THEY'RE NOT WATERED ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE. AND USUALLY WHEN I GO TO A IHOP, THEY'RE USUALLY UNDERSTAFFED. SO I DON'T SEE THEM CONSISTENTLY WATERING THESE TREES. YES. SO, UM, WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A CHECKLIST OF MAINTENANCE. UH, JUST BECAUSE WE ARE UNDERSTAFFED ON THE WEEKENDS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE THE WHOLE 24 HOURS TO TAKE CARE OF OTHER, OTHER ISSUES AT THE RESTAURANTS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE BUSY ON SUNDAY AT 9:00 AM BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ON TUESDAY AT 1:00 PM WE DO HAVE SOMEONE THAT GOES AROUND AND BASED ON EACH STORE AND WHAT THEY NEED, WE TAKE CARE AND ADDRESS THOSE, UM, ITEMS ACCORDINGLY. MM-HMM . AND WE DO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY, ESPECIALLY THE APPEARANCE OF A RESTAURANT, THE EXTERIOR AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR. MM-HMM . THANKS, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, UH, COMMISSIONER WALLER SAID ADDRESS MY QUESTION, MR. SUKI. AS FAR AS I REMEMBER, WE HAD DROUGHT IN SAN ANTONIO FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I CAN RECALL MAYBE AT LEAST 10 YEARS. STAGE THREE IS FOUR OF WATER RESTRICTIONS. WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IRRIGATION SYSTEM TODAY. WHERE HAVE WE BEEN DOING IN THESE YEARS WHEN WE SUFFER FROM DROUGHT? YOU, YOU'VE BEEN GRANTING ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES. THE STAFF HAS BEEN, BEEN REQUESTING A WAIVER TO DO THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM, AND YOU'VE BEEN GRANTING APPROVAL FROM THE CITY. THAT IS RIGHT. THEY HAVE BEEN TOO. AND THESE THINGS CHANGE TODAY THAT IT BECOMES PART OF THE, THE STAFF HAS TAKEN A POSITION THAT I, THEY SAID IT IN, UH, THAT THEY THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THERE SHOULD BE A PUBLIC INPUT AND PUBLIC HEARING. I, I'M NOT SAYING I, I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. I IT IS FINE WITH ME. I'M JUST SAYING FAIRLY STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE UP TO THIS POINT HAS BEEN THAT WE WOULD SUBMIT, UH, AN A VER AND IT WOULD GET APPROVED. OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? UM, THANKS FOR THE KIND OF THE EXPLANATION AND, UH, WE'LL SEE. I KNOW THAT THERE'S POTENTIALLY A MOTION TO APPROVE QUESTION FOR STAFF. UH, IF YOU INSTALL AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM, [00:35:01] ARE THEY REQUIRED TO TURN IT ON TO USE IT? I MEAN, IS WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU INSTALL THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU GO AND CHECK AND IF IT DIES, THEN THAT'S ONE THING. BUT IF THEY'RE HAND WATERING AS OPPOSED TO AN DOES THAT ASSUMES THAT THE , I I THINK THE, UH, CONDITION OF THE PLANTS IS RIGHT, IS THE TELLING FACTOR. RIGHT. SO, WHICH, SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE FROM HAND WATERING AND IRRIGATIONS. I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION. SO, GOOD QUESTION. THERE, THERE ARE GOOD EXAMPLES OF, UH, UH, OF, UH, BEING ABLE TO HAND WATER AND ESTABLISH PLANTS. RIGHT. UH, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THE HARDSHIPS AS EXPRESSED IN SOME CASES HAVE MET, UH, WHAT, WHAT STAFF COULD SUPPORT MM-HMM . AND WE HAVE REQUESTED MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS. RIGHT. THAT WAY WE GET ASSURANCES FROM THE, THE OWNER OF, OF THE BUSINESSES THAT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO TAKING CARE OF THOSE PLANTS. YEAH. AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I SUPPORT THAT AND I, I KNOW WE, I THINK ONLY SAW ONE, UH, FOR THE FIVE TODAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SAW ONE FOR LIKE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS. SO NO, THERE WAS ONLY ONE IN THE ONES THAT WERE PRESENTED THAT ACTUALLY PROPOSED. RIGHT. UH, UH, SUBMITTING THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. YES. MR. BROWN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE COMMISSION THAT THEY'RE, WE, WE HAD ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. YEAH. UM, WE HAVEN'T BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND. SO, YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S ABOUT WATER PRESERVATION, YOU KNOW, BUT THE HARDSHIP SEEM MITIGATED. I MEAN, ZERO ESCAPING IS SEEMS LIKE A PLAUSIBLE WAY TO, YOU KNOW, PRODUCE WATER. BUT I KNOW WE'RE TALKING SPECIFIC TREES. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A CLEAR DISTINCTION THOUGH THAT ZERO ESCAPING IS A PRINCIPLE THAT DOES REQUIRE MAINTENANCE AND PROPER PLANTING. AND WHAT WE REQUIRE ARE, IN MANY CASES ARE TREES TO BE PLANTED, SHRUBS TO BE PLANTED. MM-HMM . AND YOU CAN PICK PLANTS THAT WILL MEET THAT ZURICH PRINCIPLE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED. RIGHT. AND SO THE CITY'S MASTER, UH, PLAN, THEIR, THEIR POLICY IS FOR, TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CITY AND PLANTS THAT THRIVE. WHETHER HOW WE SELECT THEM AND HOW WE MAINTAIN THEM IS CRITICAL. AND THAT'S WHY THIS IRRIGATION REQUIREMENT IS IN THE ORDINANCE. WE'RE ABLE TO CONSIDER THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, AS PRESENTED. BUT A AGAIN, SOME OF THE HARDSHIPS WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE SUBSTANTIATED OUR SUPPORT. UNDERSTOOD. SO IT, IT IS A BIT CONFUSING THOUGH WITH THE SAWS, UH, REATING. UM, SO I THINK I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. SO, UM, I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT OR DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? I, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UH, IT IS CONFUSING WHEN MY CLIENT TOLD ME THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING. I SAID THAT THERE'S NO WAY, I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE, WE HAVE 'EM INSPECTED PUT IN AND SAS COMES BACK RIGHT, RIGHT BEHIND AND SAYS, WE'LL PAY YOU TO TAKE 'EM OUT IF THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. ALRIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CHAIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A A COMMENT THAT THE, EVEN THOUGH THE SAWS LETTER IS THERE, IT IS A PRIVATE THING WITH SAWS. OKAY. THAT IS A REBATE OPPORTUNITY WITH SAWS. IT IS NOT UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. RIGHT. AND I UNDERSTAND, AND I'M RESPECTFUL OF THAT AS WELL. AND SO I'M, I'M ALSO REMINDED, I THINK NEXT YEAR IS PERHAPS UDC AMENDMENT CYCLE THAT THIS MAY BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A, A QUICK QUESTION. SO WHETHER YOU HAVE HAND WATERING AND NOT HAVE AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM, OR IF YOU HAVE AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM, IF THE PLANTINGS AREN'T SUCCESSFUL, IT'S, IT'S STILL A, UH, AN ISSUE. IT'S THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE CITY. IS THAT TRUE? REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY'RE WATERED? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? WELL, I MEAN, IF, IF IF THE PLANTINGS AREN'T ESTABLISHED AND THEY END UP, UH, IN DETERIORATION, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU HAVE AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM WHERE YOU'RE HAND WATERING, IT'S STILL A PROBLEM. RIGHT. IT'S STILL A POTENTIAL FINE FROM THE CITY OR AN ISSUE WITH YEAH, REGARDLESS OF IRRIGATION SYSTEM, YES. IF THE, IF THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE DIES, YES. AND THEN UNDER STAGE RESTRICTIONS, YOU CAN ONLY USE THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM ONCE A WEEK. BUT IF YOU'RE HAND WATERING, YOU COULD DO IT EVERY DAY. RIGHT. THOSE, THOSE ARE THE SAWS. YES. AND, UH, AND FOR LEGAL, CAN THE, IF THE, BECAUSE IT'S A VARIANCE, CAN WE HAVE A, CAN WE MOVE TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEY HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN A MOTION? I WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTING THAT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE STAFF WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THAT SPECIFICALLY. AND THEN, UH, AND I WANTED TO COMMENT BEFORE THE WORK SESSION, THERE WAS SOME REQUESTS [00:40:01] ABOUT, UH, POTENTIAL CONTINUANCE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD DO IN THE MEANTIME THEN IS SUBMIT THAT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT WAS, UM, DISCUSSED WITH BY THE STAFF. OKAY. YEAH. AND JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP WITH OR WITHOUT THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS BETTER FOR THE CITY OR FOR THE PLANTS? I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT AND I'M, I'M NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT THERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT DOES IT HAVE MORE TEETH IF, IF THE OWNER SIGNS AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY AGREE TO DO THESE THINGS AS OPPOSED TO JUST TO NOT DO IT AND GET POTENTIALLY, UH, HAVE FINES OR, SO IT IS REQUIREMENT PER ORDINANCE. OKAY. SO THERE, OKAY. AS, AS A TERM AND CONDITION OF APPROVAL. OKAY. WITH THAT ADMINISTRATIVE EXCEPTION, THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT, YES. OKAY. SO THAT IS REQUIRED AS ADDITIONALLY AS WELL, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT IS PART, THE, THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT IS, IS RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY. OKAY. SO IT IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT AND THAT'S WHY IT WOULD HAVE MORE TEETH FOR THE CITY YES. WHENEVER THEY HAVE THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. SO, UH, AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS CASE TO THE AUGUST 26TH MEETING. SECOND MOTION TO MOVE TO AUGUST 26TH AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AYE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER MILLER? YES. COMMISSIONER WALLER. YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU. SO, SO I, YEAH, WE, WE WILL MOVE BACK TO NUMBER 20, BUT I, BUT, BUT I THINK THE TAKEAWAY HERE IS, LET'S SEE THOSE AGREEMENTS. UM, AND THEN WE WILL, WE'LL HAVE FURTHER WORK SESSIONS TO HELP, UH, EDIFY OURSELVES AS WELL. SO, UH, BUT WE'LL, ITEM 20, UM, THESE ARE GONNA BE REPEATS OF, UH, THE SAME THINGS WE'VE DONE. LANDSCAPE VARIANCE, REQ 25 INDIAN 7 4 4. BILL MILLER PROJECT LOCATION 41 0 2 NORTH LOOP 1604 EAST UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 35 11 C SIX B. IRRIGATION STATES THAT AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM WILL BE REQUIRED ON PROJECTS WHEN ANY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING ARE USED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CHAPTER. AN AREA GREATER THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET OF NEW LANDSCAPE, MORE THAN 10 TREES WILL BE INSTALLED. PROJECTS WHICH EXCEED 4,300 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE HARDSHIP DUE TO WATER CONSERVATION AND EXPANSIVE SOILS. THE UN THE OWNER IS UNABLE TO INSTALL THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE. IRRIGATION SYSTEM. DSD STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO WAIVE THE LANDSCAPING. IRRIGATION REQUIREMENTS AND IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS REQUIRED TO SUSTAIN LANDSCAPE PLANTINGS. THE PROPOSED VARIANCE FAILS TO MEET THE INTENT AND SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE. STAFF IS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY A UNIQUE HARDSHIP RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. THANK YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT WHICH WISH TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UM, SORRY I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION. WE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. YOU CAN STATE YOUR, STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE. OH, DANIEL LING WITH BILL MILLER BARBECUE. UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME 'CAUSE WE'VE OBVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT, BUT ONE THING I'LL SAY WHEN IT COMES TO US, WE'VE GOT, OF ALL OF OUR STORES IN SAN ANTONIO, WE DON'T PAY AN IRRIGATION WATER BILL 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL TURNED OFF. SO WE HAVE A SIZE IRRIGATION METER AT EACH ONE AND WE DON'T USE IT. THE STORES WE BUILT RECENTLY IN THE CITY OF BURNIE AND ALSO WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY AT PETCO TWO 11 DID NOT REQUIRE IRRIGATION. SO WE DO THE SAME THING. DROUGHT TOLERANT TEXAS NATIVE PLANTS. UM, WE HAND WATER ESTABLISH OUR TREES, UM, WE DO TEMPORARY IRRIGATION WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON SITE. AND THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE HAND WATER WITH OUR STAFF AND THAT'S HOW THINGS WORK. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE DON'T WATER WE'LL GET FINED. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T WATER, WE'RE GONNA LOSE A TREE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPLACE IT ANYWAY AND IT'S GONNA COST US MORE MONEY. SO WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. UM, BUT I JUST WANNA ADD ON TO THE FACT THAT OF ALL OF OUR STORES, WE DON'T USE ANY IRRIGATION AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE ASKING NOT TO HAVE IT NOW ALONG WITH THE WATER RESOURCE ISSUE. SO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YEP. ANY THANK YOU. FURTHER QUESTIONS. MOTION MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER TO AUGUST 26TH. SECOND. MOTION TO MOVE ITEM TWO. AUGUST. NEXT. PLANNING, COMMISSION MEETING. AUGUST 26TH. SIXTH. YES, SIR. AND SECOND. COMMISSIONER BUS MONTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? THAT WASN'T ME. OH, IT WAS COMMISSIONER MILLER. COMMISSIONER. OH, AYE. COMMISSIONER MILLER? YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ. [00:45:01] YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI. YES. COMMISSIONER WALLER. STU? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU. I ASSUME WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME RESULTS FOR 23, 24 AND 25. DO WE, DO WE NEED TO READ THE, DO WE NEED TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION CHAIR? IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE THREE, WE CAN DO THAT IN ONE MOTION. I MOVE THE 25 HAS A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT IN PLACE. I MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEMS 23, 24 AND 25 TO THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AUGUST 26TH. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE CONTINUATIONS OF ITEMS 23, 24 AND 25 TO AUGUST 26TH AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER MILLER? YES. COMMISSIONER WALLER? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [Comprehensive Master Plan Amendments  ] ALRIGHT, ONTO ITEM 28. UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE CONTINUANCE REQUEST. YES. ITEM NUMBER 28 IS REQUESTING A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING. OKAY. WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, JOE, IS IT MOST OR MOOSE? MOST? I'M SORRY. UM, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK TODAY OR NEXT TIME, BUT YOU WELCOME TO SPEAK. I JUST, SO YES. DO IT AGAIN ACTUALLY. YES MA'AM. SO YOU HAVE THREE? SURE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF I THREE MINUTES AND NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. OKAY. CAN I WAIT TILL SHE, OH, YOU CAN'T PUT THE PICTURES UP ON THE THING. OKAY, WE CAN, YEAH, YEAH, I MEAN, CAN I WAIT TILL START THEN? OKAY, COOL. OTHERWISE IT WON'T MAKE SENSE. UPSIDE DOWN . OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, JOE, MOST 1 0 7 6 2 OH OH. SORRY. SORRY. THERE YOU GO JOE. MOST 1 0 7 6 2 GIANI DRIVE. UM, SO I BROUGHT SOME PICTURES JUST SO THAT YOU ALL CAN SEE WHAT EVERYTHING LOOKS AT 'CAUSE ON A MAP. OF COURSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYTHING. SO THE FIRST PICTURE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE, THE PROPERTY THAT IS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WANTING TO CHANGE TO THE, UM, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL BUTTS UP RIGHT NEXT TO THAT HOUSE. ALL THAT TALL WEEDS IS THE PROPERTY AND THAT'S THE, THE HOUSE'S YARD, WHICH IS EIGHT TO 10 FEET BETWEEN THERE AND THE PROPERTY. UH, THE PICTURE BELOW THAT SHOWS THE OPPOSITE END AT THE CORNER AND THEN YOU'LL, AS YOU SEE, THE PROPERTY IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UM, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. OKAY. AND THEN THIS SHOWS THE, THIS JUST SHOWS THE ROAD GOING DOWN THE ROAD BETWEEN THERE. SO THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THAT HOUSE AND THE END OF THAT STREET IS ABOUT ONE AND A QUARTER, 10TH OF A MILE. SO IT'S A, IT IS A GOOD DISTANCE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND SO, UM, THE PROBLEM WOULD BE IS IF THEY PUT A, UM, COMMERCIAL, IF THEY PUT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND RIGHT NOW HE, HE USED SAID HE WAS PLANNING A GAS STATION, WELL, WITH THE GAS STATION BEHIND THE GAS STATION CONVENIENCE STORE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR DUMPSTERS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR EXTRA INVENTORY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THEIR, THEIR, THEIR JUNK THAT THEY DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE TO SEE WHEN THEY GO IN THE BUILDING. UM, BUT THE PEOPLE WALKING OR DRIVING DOWN VASQUEZ OR THE PEOPLE IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ARE GONNA LOOK OVER AND THEY'RE JUST GONNA SEE THAT IT'S JUST GONNA BE RIGHT THERE IN PLAIN VIEW FOR THEM. SO IT'S GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM, UH, THE, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA, BUT ALSO THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT'S GOING TO DECREASE OUR PROPERTY VALUE BECAUSE WHO'S GONNA WANNA LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU TAKE YOUR KIDS FOR A WALK AND YOU LOOK OVER AND JUST SEE A BUNCH OF JUNK. SO, UM, OKAY. SO GO AHEAD AND PUT THE, YEAH. NEXT ONE UP. ALRIGHT, AND THAT ONE IS JUST THE PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE FRONT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A, A COMPLETE PICTURE SO TO SHOW ALL OF THAT. SO, UH, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE FRONT PART RIGHT OFF THE ACCESS ROAD BEING COMMERCIAL. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. BUT, UM, [00:50:01] AND, AND THEN GO AHEAD AND PUT UP THE LAST ONE. SO THAT'S JUST SIMPLY THE, THE ZONING AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE THE, UH, THE MIXED, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE, WHICH THE LANDOWNER IS ALSO THE PERSON THAT DEVELOPED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK MAYBE IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN HE SHOWED MORE HOUSES, THERE WAS A DE DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT WERE GOING TO BE THERE. SO I THINK HE INTENDED FOR HOUSES TO BE THERE, HOWEVER, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. SO THANK THAT'S TIME. SO THANK YOU. SURE. SO ANYWAY, HOPEFULLY YOU GET A, A BETTER IDEA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 9TH. IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION OR WOULD I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OTHERWISE MOVE TO CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 9TH. SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE TO CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 9TH AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER WALLER. STU? YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER MILLER? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE. OKAY, THANK YOU. UH, ITEM 29. OKAY, YOU GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MANOU. I'M THE SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER 29 IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOODS COMMUNITY. PLAN 2002 IN THE GREATER BELLEVUE AREA COMMUNITY PLAN OF 2005 FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL PARKS, OPEN SPACE AND OFFICE TWO MIXED USE. GENERALLY BOUND BY THE FRESNO STREET TO THE NORTHWEST HILDEBRAND AVENUE TO THE SOUTH AND APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET TO THE EAST AND WEST OF BLANCO ROAD. CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE ISSUED A CCR ON FEBRUARY 29TH, 2026. AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION ON APRIL 30TH, 2026. DIRECTING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO INITIATE A LARGE AREA REZONING THE PROPOSED LARGE AREA REZONING AIMS TO ALLOW ALIGN ZONING WITH EXISTING LAND USE. UH, SPECIFICALLY REZONING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS INDUSTRIAL INTO RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATIONS, ADJUSTING COMMERCIAL USAGE, EXPLORING INCREASED RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WERE APPLICABLE AND APPLYING NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICTS TO PROPERTIES WERE APPROPRIATE. THE SUBJECT AREA IS PART OF THE NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOODS COMMUNITY PLAN OF 2002 AND THE GREATER BELLEVUE AREA COMMUNITY PLAN OF 2005 AND CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL LAND USES. STAFF IS PROPOSING 118 PLAN AMENDMENTS. 71 OF THOSE GOING FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE. 34 FROM NOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO MIXED USE. NINE FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO MIXED USE AND FOUR OTHERS GOING FROM PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND OFFICE TO MIXED USE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS REQUESTING THE PLAN AMENDMENTS TO ALIGN WITH 113 PROPOSED REZONING CHANGES. THIS LAR WAS HEARD BEFORE ZONING COMMISSION ON AUGUST 4TH AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL STAFF HELD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT EDISON HIGH SCHOOL IN JUNE AND POSTED FOUR SIGNS IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS WITHIN THE SUBJECT AREA. ADDITIONALLY, STAFF MET WITH VARIOUS PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED VERBAL SUPPORT, ALTHOUGH WE DID NOT RECEIVE OFFICIAL RESPONSES ON RECORD. 306 NOTICES WERE MAILED TWO IN FAVOR. 17 OPPOSED THE NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE BEACON HILL ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT RESPOND. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, LIKE I SAYS, YOU MENTIONED WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. FIRST IS APRIL MALDONADO. MS. MALDONADO, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IN THREE MINUTES AND, UM, I'M GETTING, UH, GIVING ME HER MINUTE. YOU'RE YIELDING ARE YOU KEN KENDRA? WORDS? OKAY, SO YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES MA'AM. OKAY, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS APRIL MALDONADO AND I LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT IS AFFECTING. I DID GO TO THE ZONING COMMISSION. UM, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE WAS THERE, UM, AS WELL. AND SO HE HEARD A LOT OF THIS WAS GOING ON, BUT, UH, ZONING PRETTY MUCH TOLD ME THAT, UM, IT WAS TO YOU GUYS THAT I NEEDED TO APPEAL BECAUSE THE ISSUES WERE WITH YOU ALL NOT NECESSARILY AFFECTING THEM. UM, IT IS WITH THE LAND USE. UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. I HAVE BEEN A REALTOR FOR OVER 20 YEARS. UM, AND SO MY BACKGROUND JUST KIND OF HELPED ME FOR THIS AS WELL. BUT IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALSO, WE WENT THROUGH THIS IN 2012, JUST SO YOU KNOW. UM, AND BACK THEN THE, UH, ZONING DEPARTMENT, CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR CIED WITH THE NEIGHBORS. SO, UM, WE'RE HERE. I'M HERE WITH, UH, [00:55:01] FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLEADING AGAIN, UM, TO CONTINUE GOING BY THIS NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY PLAN. UM, THIS WAS A PLAN THAT SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WERE A PART OF IN CONSTRUCTING. UM, AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE ARE COMPLETELY OPPOSITE TO WHAT THIS AMENDMENT IS SHOWING. AND WHEN, UM, CITY COUNCIL, UM, SUK WAS ASKED ALSO, UH, PLANNING, WHEN WE ASKED THEM, UM, SEVERAL NEIGHBORS, WE ASKED WHAT WAS THE REASONING FOR THIS, THE CHANGE? HOW DID YOU COME ABOUT? THEY COULD NOT TELL US. THE ONLY THING THAT THEY CAME UP WAS THAT THERE WAS ONE RESIDENT ON THE OPPOSITE NEIGHBORHOOD OF BLANCO WHO HAD A, UH, A USE THAT HER PROPERTY WAS OWNED INCORRECTLY, HER LAND USE, UM, THAT THERE WERE FIVE PROPERTIES ON THAT SIDE. UM, BUT TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE WAS STILL NO EXPLANATION AS WHY THIS WAS BLANKETED IN ON OUR SIDE. UM, ON THE EAST SIDE OF BLANCO, WHEN NOT ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES WAS ZONED INCORRECTLY AND THE LAND USE WAS FINE. UM, THE NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY PLAN, IF I MAY, SAYS THAT THE PURPOSE, UM, TO NOT BRING THE MIXED USE WAS TO KEEP THE LOW DENSITY, TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCE. NOW, I DID BRING SOME PICTURES, UM, TO SHOW. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A RESTAURANT THERE AND WE HAVE A VACANT PARKING LOT. I MEAN, UH, WE DO HAVE A PARKING LOT AND WE HAVE A VACANT LOT. NOW THE USE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS MIXED USE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT WAS A NON-CONFORMING USE THAT I WAS A PART OF. UM, BACK IN 2012, THE THINGS THAT WERE PROPOSED WERE NEVER FOLLOWED UP. I REPORTED WITH CODE COMPLIANCE FOR YEARS. NOTHING WAS DONE. I TOOK PICTURES THROUGHOUT THE YEARS TO SHOW THAT THERE WAS NO FOLLOW UP. I HEAR THE LANDSCAPING AND THE CITY FINES, EVEN WHEN I CALLED IT IN, NOTHING WAS DONE HERE. SO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GO FROM OUR LOAD DENSITY, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE THESE PARKING ISSUES BECAUSE OF THAT RESTAURANT, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THOSE LOAD DENSITY PROPERTIES TO RM FOUR IS GONNA MAKE IT WORSE FOR US AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. I'VE GROWN UP IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I GOT MARRIED, I MOVED THERE. MOST OF THE PEOPLE THERE ARE ELDERLY. UM, THEY'RE HOMEOWNERS. THERE'S NOT MUCH RENTALS. UM, I HAVE A DAUGHTER. I DO NOT WANT A MIXED USE PROPERTY BEING BUILT NEXT TO ME AS WELL. NEITHER DO THE NEIGHBORS. THE PROBLEM WE'VE HAD IS A LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORS WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO, WE'RE NOT AWARE. THEY'RE VERY UPSET BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT INFORMED. NOW WHAT IS WEIRD TO ME IS THAT THIS, UM, NOTICE THAT WAS SENT OUT BY THE CITY, UM, IT STATES THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S AFFECTING APPROXIMATELY 300, UH, PEOPLE, 300 FEET EAST AND WEST. HOWEVER, NOTIFICATIONS WERE ONLY SENT TO 200 FEET EAST AND WEST. SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM THERE. I WENT, UM, IN ZONING. UM, I WAS TOLD THAT I NEEDED TO GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, INVOLVED, WHICH I HAVE, I HAVE, UM, I HAVE MORE THAN 17 THAT ARE IN HERE. THERE WERE SOME FROM ZONING, THERE ARE SOME FROM HERE. BUT I HAVE OVER 30, I HAVE ALMOST CLOSE TO 40 SIGNATURES. AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST, I'M, I'M, I'M WORKING, I'M A MOM. I'M TRYING TO DO THIS. BUT MY GOAL IS TO GET THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO FAR, HAVEN'T HAD ONE PERSON IN FAVOR OF THIS. WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VERY LOW DENSITY. UM, IT'S A SMALL COMMUNITY THAT WE ALL ENJOY AND LOVE AND THAT MIXED USE WE HAVE ALMOST IN THE BACK THAT HAS NOTHING BUT DUPLEXES AND IT HAS CREATED A VERY BIG ISSUE FOR US FOR PARKING AND TRAFFIC AS WELL. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BRING THAT ON. AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE COMMISSION TO PLEASE STAY, UM, AND LOOK AT WHAT THE NORTH CENTRAL COMMUNITY PLAN STATES AND PLEASE TRY AND STAY IN LINE BECAUSE THAT PLAN STATES. AND IF I CAN READ THAT REAL QUICK, IT SAYS THAT THIS WAS A MASTER PLAN COMPONENT UPON THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLAN IS CONSIDERED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION AS A COMPONENT OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN CITY DEPARTMENT BOARDS AND COMMISSION TO USE THE APPROVED PLAN AS A GUIDE FOR DECISION MAKING. IF THIS IS A GUIDE, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHY THIS WAS NOT USED AS A GUIDE FOR THIS BLANKETED, UM, LAND USE AND ZONING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STATE YOUR ADDRESS. OH 8 8 2 5 WESTWOOD. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED THE, UM, PETITION TO HAVE SO FAR FOR RECORD. YES. ALRIGHT, I'LL START WITH COMMISSION QUESTIONS ON THE, ON THE RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ZUKI. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROCESS THAT WENT THROUGH BY ENGAGING THE COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN IN PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE TO MAKE THESE CHANGES. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE RECORDS OF THOSE MEETINGS WHERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR PLATS THAT BEING CONSIDERED FOR CHANGE. WOULD YOU GUIDE ME THROUGH HOW THIS DISCUSSION HAVE BEEN, UH, UH, APPROVED OR ACCEPTED BY THE COMMUNITIES? IF THERE IS ANY RECORDS THAT SHOWS THAT [01:00:01] THE LOTS THAT WE ARE VOTING ON IT TODAY HAVE HAD THE BLESSINGS OR THE APPROVAL BY THE COMMUNITIES. SO WE, WE DID HELD, WE HELD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT, IN HIGH SCHOOL. UM, WE DID RECEIVE, UH, A LOT OF VERBAL SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AT, UH, BOTH MEETINGS. SO THERE WERE ALSO SOME FOLKS THAT WERE OPPOSED. AND THEN WE FOLLOWED THE STANDARD NOTICE REQUIREMENTS TO SEND NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT AREA. SO JUST A NOTE, UH, QUICK CORRECTION ON THE, THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS. SO THE PROJECT AREA IS 300 FEET EAST AND WEST OF BLANCO ROW, BUT THE 200 FEET NOTIFICATION AREA IS EVEN BEYOND THAT. UM, AND, AND WE DID SPEAK, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE ON THE, WHO DID SOME BLOCK WALKING AS WELL. SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF VERBAL CONFIRMATION AND SUPPORT, UM, FROM PROPERTY OWNERS. BUT SEVERAL, UM, HA HAVE NOT SUBMITTED RESPONSES IN WRITING. SO I WILL SAY THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS, BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WE SPOKE WITH SEEMED OVERWHELMINGLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS. UM, WE DO, BUT AS YOU'VE SEEN, WE DO HAVE SOME PROPERTY OWNERS WHO SUBMITTED NOTICES OF OPPOSITION. I CAN SEE FROM THE MIXED USE BY THE MAP THAT WE HAVE ON THE, ON THE WEBSITE, THERE IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIALS, THERE ARE OFFICES, THERE ARE COMMUNITY COMMERCIALS. I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, AND OTHER BUSINESSES WITHIN THE SAME SEGMENTS. SO THERE ALREADY ARE AREAS THAT HAVE PROBLEM WITH PARKING. WAS THIS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE DURING THE MEETINGS? IT WAS. AND SO RIGHT NOW THE NONE OF THOSE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ALLOW A LINE FOR THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING. SO SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS DID MENTION PARKING AS A CONCERN. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT WHILE, WHILE WE AGREE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY PROPERTY IS ABLE TO HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THEIR BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, THIS RECOMMENDATION FOR LAND USE CHANGE ISN'T GONNA IMPACT THE ABILITY TO PARK OR NOT. I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS THE OUTCOMES FROM THOSE MEETINGS. I BELIEVE RESIDENTS THROUGH THE MEETINGS WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PARKING. BUT WHAT WAS THE ACTION ITEMS OUT OF THOSE MEETINGS TO SOLVE THOSE QUESTION THAT WAS AROSE? UH, BECAUSE WE'RE REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE CURRENT LAND USE FOR LATERAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS AREA. BUT I BELIEVE OTHERS WILL HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE PARKING. BUT IT, AND THEY WILL RAISE IT DURING THE MEETINGS. BUT HAVE THERE BEEN ANY RECOMMENDATION BY THE CITY TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES? USUALLY DON'T ADDRESS THAT THROUGH THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS. SO WHAT THE GOAL RIGHT HERE IS TO, UM, BRING THESE PROPERTIES INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL. SO I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT, THAT THE GOAL OF THIS LAND USE AMENDMENT IS TO BRING EXISTING NON-CONFORMING PROPERTIES INTO ALIGNMENT. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? NO, IT'S, IT'S TO ALIGN WITH OUR PROPOSED ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. SO THE CITY'S CHANGING THE ZONING AND IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT ALIGNED WITH THE MASTER PLAN, WE ALSO NEED TO CHANGE THE LAND USE AMENDMENT. CORRECT. AND THIS IS ALL DRIVEN BECAUSE OF A, A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SOUK CARR. RIGHT. OKAY. CORRECT. AND GOSH, I REALLY WISH THAT WE COULD SEE SOME OF THOSE SUPPORTIVE RESPONSES, RIGHT. 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT HEARING ANY OF THEM. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. UM, AND OBVIOUSLY REACHING OUT TO SEVERAL BUSINESSES, UM, AND WE, WE, SO I SPOKE WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO DAILY AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT MAY, THEY MAY CONSIDER CONTINUING BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME ADDITIONAL RESPONSES. UM, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. UM, I FEEL THAT WE NEED TO MOVE THIS, UH, TO A CONTINUANCE FOR MORE INFORMATION, BUT THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT. MR. SANCHEZ, ARE THERE ANY CURRENT PROJECTS OR DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S EXPERIENCING A HARDSHIP WITH THE PARKING? OR IS THAT JUST THE TOPIC? UH, YEAH. 'CAUSE YOU HAD [01:05:01] BROUGHT UP THE, THE PARKING. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHERE, WHERE THE PARKING'S COMING FROM. IF THIS IS JUST THE REZONE. THIS WAS SOMETHING I FOUGHT IN 2012 FOR THE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE SAME ISSUE. IT WAS JUST WASN'T AS LARGE SCALE. AND I, THEY WANTED TWO PARKING LOTS. I SAID NO, WE, WE CONFORMED TO THE ONE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES. AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DONE WAS NOT DONE. AND SO NOW THERE'S A BODY SHOP THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THAT RESTAURANT THAT YOU SAW IN THE PICTURES. THEY ALSO USE A PARKING SHOP AND WORK ON VEHICLES. AND THEN THE BUSINESS THAT, THAT RESTAURANT THAT WAS THERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY PARKING, THEY PARK ALL THE STREETS NOW THAT SCHOOL STARTED. EDISON HIGH SCHOOL ALSO, THEY PARK ALL THE STREETS 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT THAT'S LIMITED. THEY PARK ALL THE STREET. SO IT'S NOT, WE'RE TALKING AS A RESIDENCE. UM, UH, ZONING KEEPS TALKING OR PLANNING COMMISSION KEEPS TALKING ABOUT THE BUSINESSES. BUT I'VE WALKED THEM. AND THAT'S KIND OF OUR THING IS I'VE WALKED AND CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT, THE LAST TIME MR. DIEGO BERNAL CITY COUNCIL DID HELP WITH THIS. UM, AND SO THAT'S HOW THIS HAPPENED. BUT, UM, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE THING. AND IF THESE, IF THE ZONING CHANGES, THE LAND USE FOR THE ZONING CHANGES, IF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL FROM HERE, BUT THOSE LOTS, AT LEAST ON THE EAST SIDE, THEY'RE VERY NARROW. SO WHAT IS THERE, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S MAYBE TWO TO FOUR SLOTS IN FRONT OF THESE BUSINESSES. SO IF YOU CHANGE 'EM TO SEA TWO, WHICH THEY'RE WANTING TO USE, WHERE, WHERE, I MEAN, WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO PARK? IT'S GONNA GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM WITH THE, THE RM FOURS AND, AND ALL THIS. WHAT IS THAT? WHAT'S THAT PARTICULAR SHOOT THAT YOU, THE PICTURES WE'RE EMPHASIZING ON WESTWOOD, PAPA BEAR, LANG, AND, UM, ELMWOOD. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . IF, IF I COULD CLARIFY THE, THE PARKING QUESTION A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. UH, SO I THINK MS. MALDONADO'S DOING AN INDIVIDUAL ZONING CASE THAT WAS RE BEING, RE A PROPERTY WAS BEING REZONED FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT AT THAT TIME. UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED INDIVIDUAL TO ONE SINGLE PROPERTY JUST FOR A PARKING LOT TO SUPPORT SOME NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES. UH, IN ADDITION, THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTIES IS PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL IN NATURE. SO THE PARKING REQUIREMENT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE EXACT USE OF THAT PROPERTY. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE A RETAIL STORE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT'S REQUIRED BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF YOUR LOT. THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE AS A RESULT OF THIS SONY. SO WE, THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS IS WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WILL EITHER, UM, CREATE ADDITIONAL PARKING ISSUES BY ADDING ADDITIONAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS OR REDUCING IT WHATSOEVER. SO THOSE CONDITIONS ARE GONNA STAY THE SAME THE WAY IT IS REGARDLESS OF THIS ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. SO I SEE THAT BLANCO'S A SECONDARY ARTERIAL, UH, WHICH IS REALLY SHOULD BE COMMERCIAL UP AND DOWN AND RIGHT NOW IS PRIMARILY I ONE AND IT'S TRYING TO BE DOWN ZONE TO SOMETHING LESS INTENSIVE. AND, AND SO, UM, I I THINK THAT I, I FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS TODAY JUST BECAUSE IT MATCHES THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE STREET. UM, AND IT'S, AND IT'S A DOWN ZONING, SO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, SO QUICKLY MIXED USE FOR THIS INCLUDES WHAT ZONING CATEGORIES UP, UP TO, UP TO C TWO. OKAY. UP TO C TWO MXD. BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? IT INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL. SO YOU KNOW, IS THAT PART OF THE REASON WHY THIS PLAN USE WAS CHOSEN WAS BECAUSE IT IN A SINGLE PLAN USE COVERS THIS ENTIRE AREA? CORRECT. SO YEAH, THE MIXED USE DESIGNATION ALLOWS RM FOUR AND THE C TWO, WHICH IS OUR PRIMARY DESIGNATION. AND, AND TO UM, TAG ON TO COMMISSIONER OREN'S, UH, POINT THAT WOULD PRECLUDE THE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS AREA. CORRECT? CORRECT. ALRIGHT. UH, ONE QUICK CLARIFICATION. UH, WHEN I SPOKE TO MS. MALDONADO AT ZONING, UH, WHAT I MADE CLEAR WAS, AS I MADE CLEAR IN THE WORK SESSION, UH, WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT ANY INDIVIDUAL, UH, PROPERTY OWNER HAS AN ISSUE WITH THEIR PROPERTY CHANGING, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE HAS CONFIRMED THIS TO OTHER PEOPLE, IS THAT THEY CAN EXEMPT THEMSELVES FROM THIS REZONING. THEY CAN REMAIN WHAT THEY ARE. ALL THEY GOTTA DO IS CALL THE, THE COUNCIL OFFICE. THAT'S IT. UM, I, I LIKE COMMISSIONER ORION, THINK THIS PLAN AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT EVEN CONSIDERING THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE GIVEN THIS LOCATION BETWEEN HILDEBRAND AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE NORTH BOUNDARY IS [01:10:01] ON BLANCO. ON FRESNO. YEAH. FRESNO ON BLANCO. SO, SO JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT COMMISSIONER BUSTANI SAID, THOSE REZONINGS WOULD PROBABLY BE A DOWN ZONE, SO IT WOULD STILL FIT WITHIN MIXED USE, CORRECT. RIGHT. SO THERE COULDN'T BE SOMEBODY GOING POTENTIALLY, I MEAN, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO REZONING EVEN THOUGH YOU DID A MASS REZONING. IF SOMEBODY WANTED A HIGHER INTENSITY USE THEN IT WOULD UM, NOT BE PERMITTED IF WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL FOR THIS, UM, NORTH REZONING. SO, UM, THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH, IT'S FINE. YOU GO AHEAD. OH, BUT YOU NEED IT IF YOU CAN PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE. SORRY, WITH WHAT YOU SAID. UM, I MAYBE I'M, I'M MISUNDERSTANDING AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK. BUT THE R FOUR, THAT STREET THAT THERE'S BLANCO AND THEN THERE'S THAT SIDE STREET CALLED PAPA BEAR LANE, WHICH IS LIKE A BUFFER STREET. THE PROPERTIES, I GUESS THAT'S MAYBE THE MISCOMMUNICATION. THE PROPERTIES WERE TRYING TO LEAVE FOR THE LAND USE NOT CHANGE ARE THOSE THAT ARE CROSSING PAPA BEAR LANE THAT ARE ALL NEXT TO YOUR HOUSES. NOT NECESSARILY THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, BUT THE ONES RIGHT NEXT TO ALL OUR HOUSES. 'CAUSE THOSE ARE VACANT LOTS. AND SO INVESTORS, SOME DO OWN THOSE AND THAT'S KIND OF, MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING, BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT R FOUR IS LOWER DENSITY THAN R RM FOUR. AND SO SWITCHING THAT, GOING IN, CROSSING THAT AND GOING INTO RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE WOULD MAKE IT DOUBLE THE HIGH DENSITY. I MEAN THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD DOUBLE THE HIGH DENSITY. AM AM I NOT MISUNDERSTANDING? AM I MISUNDERSTANDING? I'M SORRY. YEAH, THE, THE FOUR, SORRY. IT'S SOME BAD MICROPHONES. FOUR DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW UP TO FOUR DWELLING UNITS, SO THAT WOULD, UM, POTENTIALLY INCREASE ALLOW AND INCREASED DENSITY ON THOSE PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO NOT CHANGE THAT LAND USE, I MEAN, I GET THE COMMERCIAL WHEN WE'RE DEVELOPING, I MEAN, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS ACTIVITY. WE WANT NICE BUSINESSES. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT ALCOHOLIC ONES, BUT WE WANT NICE BUSINESSES. BUT IT'S THAT LAND USE ON THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THIS HIGH DENSITY, MULTIFAMILY MIXED USE, UM, THAT WE DON'T WANT NEXT TO OUR HOUSES CHAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION. UH, FOR THE SPEAKER, CAN YOU USE A LASER POINTER AND TO KIND OF POINT OUT SPECIFICALLY LIKE WHERE YOU'RE REFERRING? OH, OKAY. SO THIS IS BLANCO RIGHT HERE. THIS IS A, OH, SORRY, MY HAND IS, THIS IS ALL PAPA BEAR LANE. IT RUNS BY EDISON AND THIS IS A BUFFER STREET THAT THE CITY HAD PUT, UH, AND LEFT THERE. SO IT COULD BE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE BUSINESSES HERE AND THE RESIDENTIAL. SO THESE, ALL THESE, OOPS, ALL THESE RIGHT HERE, THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE ALL THESE TO MIXED USE. AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SAY IF WE CAN LEAVE THE LAND USE AT R FOUR AND NOT RM FOUR BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT, THESE LOTS ARE VERY SMALL. UM, AND SO WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS YOU, YOU PUT FOUR BUILDINGS ON HERE, THEY'RE GONNA PARK HERE AND THEN LIKE THE RESTAURANT RIGHT HERE IS ALREADY DOING, THEY'RE PARKING HERE, EDISON'S PARKING HERE. LIKE, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP, OKAY, SO, BUT, BUT WE ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT THE LAND USE PLAN. WE'RE NOT MAKING ANYTHING RM FOUR, THAT'S THE ZONING COMMISSION AND, AND WELL, THE MIXED USE, RIGHT? WELL MIXED. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A LAND USE PLAN THAT ALLOWS FOR A WHOLE MIRED OF DIFFERENT ZONINGS. IT'S STILL, BUT, BUT THE FACT THAT WE CHANGE THIS TODAY DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE ANYTHING REGARDING R WHAT WE DON'T MAKE ANYTHING RM FOUR. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT ALLOWS A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS. UH, AND, AND THAT'S IT. I MEAN IF IT'S, IF, IF YOU'RE OPPOSED TO HAVING A, A, A SERIES OF PROPERTIES NOT ZONED RM FOUR, THE, THE AVENUE FOR THE FOR THAT IS THE ZONING COMMISSION IN THE COUNCIL MEETING. WELL, AND THEY TOLD ME IT WAS WITH YOU ALL. THAT'S WHY I'M VERY CONFUSED. HE WAS IN THE MEETING AND THEY SAID I HAD TO APPEAL TO YOU ALL FOR IT. STAFF. CAN YOU CHIME IN ON THAT? 'CAUSE IT, I MEAN, AM I MISSING SOMETHING? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE LEFT THE MEETING AT 3 21 1. THANK YOU. BUT I MEAN, ARE THEY PROPOSING TO MAKE ALL THAT PROPERTY RM FOUR, THE REQUEST FROM CITY COUNCIL WAS TO ADD MIDDLE HOUSING TO INCREASE SOME DENSITY CLOSER TO THE BLANCO STREET AND, UM, SO THE MIXED USE WOULD SUPPORT THE RM FOUR BASE ZONING. UM, BUT AS COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE ALREADY SAID THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO CONTACT CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY CAN REMOVE THEIR PROPERTIES. OKAY. IF THEY DO NOT WANT THAT. OKAY. AND, AND EVEN IF WE DENY THIS, THE COUNCILS CAN STILL OVERRIDE US AND MAKE IT WHAT THEY WANT TO MAKE IT OURS. JUST RECOMMENDATION. YEAH. WE'RE JUST A RECOMMENDATION. I'M JUST CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO WERE THOSE PROPERTIES REZONED RM FOUR AT THE OKAY. [01:15:01] THEY ARE SUGGESTED YES. FOR R THAT WAS RECOMMENDATION BY ZONING, CORRECT? YEAH. YEAH. THE, THE, THE, THE CCR IS PRETTY LIGHT. LIKE IT DOESN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT MIDDLE HOUSING. SO, UM, BUT UM, AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE ZONING AND THE PLAN AND USE ARE DIFFERENT ITEMS. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR US OUR PURVIEW IS, IS LAND USE AND, UM, KIND OF SIDE ON WHAT KIND OF YOUR THINKING. SO, YEAH. BUT, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? NO. COMMISSIONER MILLER? YES. COMMISSIONER WALLER. STU? YES. COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 30, REAL QUICK CHAIR. WE'D LIKE TO MAKE A NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER BUSANTE LEFT THE ROOM AT 3 21. I THINK WE ALREADY DID , BUT, BUT DULY NOTED. AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER 30 IS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO THE, UM, AUGUST 26TH MEETING. OKAY. DO I HAVE A, ANY DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE PROPOSED CONTINUANCE? MOTION TO MOVE. SECOND. MOTION TO CONT CONTINUANCE. OKAY. MOTION. AND A SECOND TO, UH, MOVE. ITEM TWO, ITEM 30 TO AUGUST 26TH. WHO IS SECOND? UH, COMMISSIONER WALLERS. SORRY. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER WALLER SAID YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER MILLER? YES. COMMISSIONER SIEGEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. I HAVE TO GO AND, OKAY. IT'S THREE 20. COME ON. I CAN'T BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE 26. AND COMMISSIONER SIEGEL IS LEAVING THE MEETING. THREE. THAT WOULD PUT US UNDER A QUORUM. NO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE FIVE. FIVE. YEAH, WE'RE GOOD. YEAH. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 33 TO I JUST, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MY NAME'S ANNA HARKINS AND I AM FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 33 ITEM. OH, ITEM 33 IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY AREA PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL ESTATE FOR MULTIPLE PROPERTIES. AS DESCRIBED IN THE POSTED AGENDA, THERE WERE TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY SIXTY THREE NOTICES SENT OUT. ONE IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGES TO THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY AREA PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN DECEMBER OF 2022, ARE INTENDED TO CREATE A CLEAR, MORE COMPATIBLE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT. THE CHANGES FOCUS ON MAINTAINING THE EXISTING RURAL, UH, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND MATCHING THE EXISTING ZONING THAT'S THERE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY MAINLY RE AND R 20. THESE UPDATES REFLECT CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AND REDUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES IN THIS LARGE LOT. SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE FOLKS, UH, TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. FIRST IS ROGER RIOS. I BELIEVE THEY LEFT. OKAY. UM, HENRY BALD BRACK. YES. JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. OKAY. I'M HENRY BRACK, THE OWNER OF 1 55 ELAINE AND FOUR 18 BON AIR. BOTH AFFECTED BY THIS REPLANTING. AND I LIKE THE AREA THE WAY IT IS. IT'S GOT THAT COUNTRY FEEL AND THAT, AND I HAVE WITH THE ELAINE PROPERTY. I SEE THE GROWTH ON RIGSBY, IT'S COMING AND I SEE THAT IF THE, WE DO NOT PROTECT THE RESIDENTIAL PART, THAT THAT GROWTH ON RIGSBY CAN EASILY TAKE OVER THAT ELAINE SIDE OF PROPERTY. I ALSO SEE THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPERS, WE HAD A CHURCH THAT WENT UNDER OVER THERE ON BON AIR AND RIGSBY AND THAT PROPERTY, I MEAN, BON AIR AND ELAINE, I'M SORRY. UH, THAT PROPERTY GOT CHOPPED UP INTO NINE PROPERTIES. I AM THE, AND THAT, THAT AREA, THAT [01:20:01] ONE LA LAND PLANT WAS ABOUT FOUR OR FEW ACRES AND IT GOT CHOPPED UP INTO NINE PROPERTIES. LUCKILY THERE WAS A LOT OF, I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF OPPOSITION THERE ON A LANE AND SOME PEOPLE WERE AGAINST THAT. UH, BUT SOMEHOW THAT GOT THROUGH AND IT GOT CHOPPED UP INTO NINE PROPERTIES. AND LUCKILY THE CHURCH, ANOTHER CHURCH WAS ABLE TO BUY THE CHURCH BUILDING AND I BELIEVE TOOK THREE OR FOUR LOTS AND SAVED THAT. AS FAR AS DEVELOPING MORE, I'M AFRAID WITH OUR, UH, AREA WITH ELDERLY PEOPLE AND PROPERTIES, CHANGING HANDS, THAT ALL IT TAKES IS ONE DEVELOPER IN THERE, OUR TWO DEVELOPERS AND THEY'RE BULLDOZING HOUSES DOWN FOR APARTMENTS. SO I AM FOR THIS AMENDMENT, THIS CHANGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? I FORGOT WHERE I STARTED LAST TIME. SO I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER IAN. UH, NO QUESTIONS. SANCHEZ, NO QUESTIONS. UNDERSTOOD. NO QUESTIONS? NO QUESTION. NO QUESTIONS THEN. I HAVE NONE EITHER. SO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS CLOSED. ANY FURTHER? COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. I'LL ASK FOR MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE. A SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE. AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER ORIAN? YES. COMMISSIONER WALTER SAID YES. COMMISSIONER SANCHEZ? YES. COMMISSIONER ZUKI? YES. COMMISSIONER MILLER? YES. AND COMMISSIONER PROFIT? YES. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY STAFF OR DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NOT TODAY. ALRIGHT. IT IS THREE 30 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.